US-GOV-ISSUE-VIETNAM

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NOTE MOST WATCHES IN THE FREE PDF SYSTEM ARE RESTORED BY ROCK\\
ETSY MILITARYWATCHBOX GOLDSMITHWORKS TIMEFRAUD
GOLDSMITHTRAINING VINTAGE TIME RE-MADE IN AMERICA
TIME COLLECTORS
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A-US GOVERNMENT ISSUED VIETNAM WAR WATCHES
B- A SECTION ON FAKE & COUNTERFEITS
C- READ BEFORE BUYING VIETNAM
ERA MILITARY WATCH
BOTH ARE FAKES
THERE WERE NEVER ANY BRAND NAMES ON THE DIALS
OF US NAVY ARMY MARINES OR AIR FORCE WATCHES
I HAVE PUT THIS FREE VIETNAM MILITARY WATCH PDF TOGETHER
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TO OFFER A TOOL THAT WILL ADVISE YOU ON VMW WATCHES
IT BEGINS WITH A WALTHAM WATCH COMPANY LETTER
REQUESTING TO PLACE THE WALTHAM BRAND ON THE DIAL
WHICH IS DENIED. THUS DEMONSTRATING DON'T INVEST IN A
WATCH WITH BRANDING ON DIAL UNLESS THERE IS A REASON.
FOR THE NAVY SEALS IN THE NAM. THERE WAS ONLY ONE WATCH EVER MADE WITH A NAVY
CONTRACT OUT SIDE OF THE BRIEF "CANTEEN WATCH BACK PRE WWII. A DIVE WATCH WHERE THE
CONTRACT WAS WORKED BY BULOVA AND WHERE BULOVA CREATED A BEAUTY THEN DECIDED TO
USE SOME TECHNOLOGY FOR THE 333 AND 666 AND MADE MORE CASE THAN [BLANCPAIN] DID AS
TONEK RAYVILLE [THERE TEMP US COMP] SET UP TO COMPLETE THE CONTRACT EARLY 1963 AND
PRODUCED 15000 TORNEK RAYVILLE SEAWOLF. DIVE WATCHES. THE ONLY MADE FOR THE US NAVY
SEAL DIVE WATCHES I AM AWARE OF.
-- [NOTE... NO, THEY DID NOT HAVE ROLEX OR OTHER FAIRLY TAIL WATCHES UNLESS THEY BOUGHT
THEM THEM SELVES!!! ] -THE VIETNAM NAVY WATCH WAS THE TORNEK RAYVILLE, 15000 WERE BUILT. IT WAS BUILT BY
BLANCPAIN UNDER THE" TORNEK RAYVILLE" BRAND . IT WAS THE 1956 TO 1963 THREE CONTRACTS
BULOVA PROTOTYPE TURNED OVER TO BLANCPAIN OF THE FIFTY FATHOMS FAME WHICH FEATURED
MOST OF THE INVENTIONS OF BULOVA! JUST GOOGLE GOLDSMITHWORKS BULOVA BENRUS WARS
LETTERS DIVE VIETNAM]
HEY, COPY/SAVE THIS BELOW 4 RESEARCH
GO DROP IN GOOGLE
" GOLDSMITHWORKS VIETNAM WATCH "
" GOLDSMITHWORKS VIETNAM ZODIAC "
"GOLDSMITHWORKS WWI TRENCH CUFF CONVERSION"
"GOLDSMITHWORKS WWII WATCHES"
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"GOLDSMITHWORKS JAPAN WWII IMPERIAL"
"GOLDSMITHWORKS GERMAN WWII WATCHES"
AS EACH GOOGLE PAGE RETURN APPEARS, SIMPLY GO TO TOP OF PAGE
SELECT "IMAGES"
CLICK ANY OF THE HUNDREDS OF IMAGES TO VIEW
THE COMPLETE RESTORE OF EACH WATCH
A WALTHAM LETTER REQUESTING THE APPLICATION OF THEIR BRAND TO DIAL
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A REPLY TO A WALTHAM LETTER WANTING TO PLACE "WALTHAM" NAME ON MILITARY DIAL
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REPLY STATES NAY
A. NO TRADE MARKINGS ON FACE DIAL ARE ALLOWED
B. THE DIAL SHOULD BE KEPT FREE FROM FROM UNNECESSARY MARKS
C. TRADE MARKS SHOULD BE MARKED ON CASE BACKS
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NO NAMES WERE/ARE WRITTEN ON DIALS
BRANDING ALLOWED ON CASE BACKS ONLY
NO LONGINES NO OMEGA NO LE-COULTRE NO OTHER HIGH END BRANDS
NO COMPLICATED SPECS WERE REQUIRED
THE ONLY WATCH BRANDS WERE
BENRUS HAMILTON WESTCLOX BELFORTE TIMEX
[TORNEK RAYVILLE HAD ONE TIME SEAL DIVE CONTRACT IT IS FURTHER BELOW]
INFO ON CASES AND BASE SPECS
SEVEN JEWEL MOVEMENT- METAL / PLASTIC CASES- SINGLE ONE PIECE CASES
ACCESS MOVEMENT THROUGH CRYSTAL- NO SERVICE REQUIRED
ALL THROW AWAY- MUST LAST 2 YEARS - NO SCREW BACKS - NO AUTOMATICS
GOOGLE:
"GOLDSMITHWORKS BENRUS BULOVA VIETNAM WATCH WAR"
Fraud/Counterfeits GO HTTP://TIMEFRAUD.COM
MOST OF THOSE OFFERED ON EBAY ARE OUT RIGHT FAKES
NO SCREW BACKS NO "WWW" STAMPED NO BROAD ARROW
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NO NAME SIGNED ON DIAL NO OMEGA NO LONGINES NO LE COULTRE
SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VIEW THE MOVEMENT FROM THE BACK OF WATCH SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY NAME ON BACK
BUT BENRUS HAMILTON WESTCLOX BELFORTE OR TIMEX SHOULD HAVE WATCH DATE 1965 TO 1972 ON BACK SHOULD
HAVE A BELOW WATCH MODEL CODE FROM 1965 TO 1972 ON BACK
WE HAVE MOST CONTRACTS AND SPEC SHEETS ONLINE MIL-W-3818B_Spec.pdf CONTACT IF REQUIRED
MIL-W 3818A
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ABOVE SPEC SHEET NOTE NO NAME?? OK???
IF YOU SEE A BRAND NAME??? ITS A FAKE
I AM A VIET VET. MANY VETS HARDLY SAW A WATCH./ 12 MONTH TURN AROUND MEANT TURN AROUND. I FORGET THE
NUMBERS BUT 7 TO 8 MIL SERVED. I WOULD SAY 3 MILLION WATCHES. MOST AIR CREWS. MOST SQUAD LEADERS. THERE
WERE QUIT A FEW.
AND . THAT ORDER? 10.000 AND CHANGE WERE GONE IN THE FIRST MONTH. MILLIONS WERE ORDERED.
RESTORED BY ROCK GREEN BERET 3818A
Oct-Oct/1961_bulova_hacking_3818a.html
MIL-W-3818A WAS THE A-11 OF 1950'S THE A-17. THE US CONTRACT
WAS A FIRST FOR 24HR CHAPTER. ALL THESE WATCHES HACKED.
MOST WERE NOT MARKED WITH MAKER ON DIAL. GREEN BERET
SOLDIERS RECEIVED THE A VERSION.TWO PIECE CASE.-REMOVABLE CASE BACK
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MIL-W 3818B
DTU-2A/P
SINGLE CASE 1968 DTU-2A/P BENRUS RESTORED BY ROCK
MIL-W 3818b WAS THE FIRST FULLY RE DESIGNED MIL WATCH THAT RECEIVED
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THE NAME DTU-2A/P . THE FIRST CONTRACT WAS FOR 10,000+ UNITS FOR THE MARINES.
BENRUS WON IT AND BULOVA PROTESTED BUT LOST. THIS WAS THE VERY FIRST TO USE THE ABOVE
SPECS
SINGLE CASE. CRYSTAL REMOVED TO INSTALL MOVEMENT SIGNED ON BACK
CONT.NO. GS-00S-61940 SERIAL NO xxxxxx
DATE June 1969
WRIST WATCH DTU-2A/P MIL-W-3818B
MFG. PART. NO XZ73065
FED STOCK NO 6645-066-4279
U.S.MIL-W-46374 OD Plastic CASE OK
RESTORED BY ROCK PLASTIC MIL-W-46374A
The next version [1 ]MIL-W-46374 AND THE [2]MIL-W-46374A- version permitting plastic 1970-1975.BENRUS WESTCLOX
HAMILTON. SINGLE CASE. CRYSTAL REMOVED TO INSTALL MOVEMENT
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SIGNED ON BACK
1-U.S. Wristwatch General purpose Non-Maintainable
MIL-W-46374
Fed. Stock No.6645-952-3767
APR 1969
2-Watch-wrist General purpose Non-Maintainable [PLASTIC OK]
Mil-W-46374A
Westclox No. 75062
FSN 6645-952-3767
DAAA25-70-D-0335
Sept 1970
US
MIL-W-3818A
THE FIRST SPECIFIC WATCHES UTILIZED IN NAM WAS THE 3818A
WHICH WAS UTILIZED BY GREEN BERET / SPECIAL FORCES
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NOTE IT HAS THE LOOK OF A-11/A-17 HACK BUT LABELED 3818A HACK
DTU-2AP.-MIL-W-3818B
NOTE THE BULOVA?????? MY PATRON ASKED FOR THE NAME WHEN I RESTORED THE DIAL
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THEN A CONTRACT WAS AWARDED TO BENRUS. BENRUS PRODUCED THE FIRST VIETNAM WATCH
AND IT WAS THE FIRST SINGLE CASE SYSTEM WITH TWO PART CRYSTAL LOCKING MIL-W-3818B
KNOWN AS DTU-2AP. ALL WATCHES AFTER THE BENRUS WERE SINGLE CASE. STEEL AND PLASTIC.
BENRUS BUILT 10,000 FOR THE MARINE CORPS. FOLLOWED UP THE MIL-W-3818A. [U.S. VIETNAM
WATCHES WERE NON-MAINTENANCE. THEY HAD TO LAST 2 YEARS WITH NO REPAIRS]
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MILITARY WATCHES USA ORDINANCE ISSUE
DPU-2A/P MIL-W-3118B MIL-W-3818B_Sepcifications.pdf
MIL-W-4637 milspec-mil-w-46374f.PDF AVAILABLE 3118
specifications pdf 4637 specifications pdf
BULOVA PROTESTS THE BENRUS AWARD OF MILITARY
WATCH CONTRACT VIETNAM ISSUE
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WESTCLOX 7 JEWEL NO DIAL BRAND NAME
HAMILTON STEEL CASE NO DIAL BRAND NAME
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BENRUS STEEL CASE NOTE NO DIAL BRAND NAME
NOTE THERE WERE NO OMEGA LA-COULTRE IWC OR ANY OF THE FAKES SOLD ON THE BAY. NO US
ARMY OR US NAVY. NOTE NONE OF THESE HAVE BRAND NAMES
1968 Belforte
& Benrus plastic
3818A 1968benrus
-mil-w-3818b
1967 BENRUS
SINGLE
MIL-W-3818 - 2A/P
1972 Metal
Hamilton.
1970
Jeambrun/Seiko
plastic Westclox
1965 Benrus "hack" DTU2A/P
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1969
Belforte & Benrus 1965 Plastic Benrus
MIL-W-3818B
1968 Belforte
& Benrus plastic
3818A 1968benrus
-mil-w-3818b
1967 BENRUS
SINGLE
MIL-W-3818 - 2A/P
1969
Belforte & Benrus 1965 Plastic Benrus
MIL-W-3818B
Hamilton W46374A
1972 Metal
Hamilton.
Hamilton W46374A
GG-W-113
1970
Jeambrun/Seiko
plastic Westclox
1965 Benrus "hack" DTU2A/P
GG-W-113
MIL-W-46374A AND B & GG-W-113
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MIL-W-46374A AND B & GG-W-113
The MIL-W-46374 series of U.S. Military wrist watches began with specification publication dated 30 October 1964. as a “U.S.
Wristwatch Non-Maintainable”. The MIL-W-46374B was required to have a 7 jewel manual wind mechanical movement, stainless steel
case and acrylic crystal- though some plastic B series watches occasionally show up.The strap was OD nylon with a black anodized
steel buckle. Typical markings for the MIL-W-46374B watches will be these lines from the only two manufacturers. On May 7 1975,
AFTER VIETNAM the MIL-W-46374B was required to have a “H3? and radiation symbol on the dial to warn that luminous tritium paint
was used. H3. THUS WE HAVE The MIL-W-46374B 3818A 3818B DTU-2A/P AND GG-W-113
I DID NOT WANT TO FORGET THE FIRST CUSTOM NAVY SEAL WATCH. THE FIRST W/MOISTURE INDICATOR THE FIRST DEEP
SEA [NOT ROLEX], THE FIRST PLASTIC CRYSTAL FOR THE DEEP SEA, [ HERE IS A POP UP OF THE SPECS. ] ORIGINALLY
75+% BULOVA DESIGNED TECHNOLOGY, [BLANCPAIN] TORNEK RAYVILLE COMPLETED. 15000 UNITS IF I AM CORRECT,
ANOTHER LINK SO WE HAVE MILITARY STYLE REDUNDANCY1961 MIL-W-22176 AND 1961 MIL-W-22176-A
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YOU NEED ANOTHER PAGE. NOT EVERY THING. BUT A LOT OF WHAT YOU WILL REQUIRE 'CAUSE IT HAS THE GHOSTS OF
THE BROWN WATERS OF NAM..... THOSE ELUSIVE STORIES OF THE MEN WHOM WORE THE WATCHES WHILE
CONDUCTING THE MISSIONS THAT MATTERED THE MOST... AND THEN THOSE OTHER WATCHES THAT FALSELY ROSE TO
CLAIM A SPOT ON SOME VAGRANT LIST AS A ABSENT THEY WERE AS VAGRANTS MISSING IN THOSE ACTIONS... .
SO, READ THIS ...BUT RECALL THAT I STATED THAT BULOVA ACTUALLY MASTERED SEVERAL TECHNOLOGIES THAT
BLANCPAIN DID NOT POSSESS. THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A BULOVA AND NOT TORNEK/BLANCPAIN.
YET TODAY WE READ HOW THE FIFTY FATHOMS WAS THIS AND THAT AND THE FIRST AT THIS AND
THAT.
BUT, THE USA MIL DID NOT CONTRACT WITH BLANCPAIN, AND THE TORNEK WAS NOT BORN AS A FIFTY FATHOM BECAUSE
INFECT IT WAS ALL BULOVA BUT 25% ....
Case designations: PLA = plastic, CRM =
corrosion resistant metal; STS = stainless steel .
Movement designations: ## j = number of jewels;
QTZ = electronic quartz mvt, MEC =manual wind
mechanical mvt.; HCK = hacking
US ARMY SPECIFICATION NO. 94-27834-B,
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dated FEBRUARY 22, 1943 – WATCH,
NAVIGATION, TYPE A-11 (HACK):F. METHOD
OF INSPECTION AND TESTS:
1961 SEAL DIVE DIAL
ABOVE ARE PLASTIC CASED MIL-W-46374B
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Mil-W-46374A
Westclox No. 75092
FSN 6645-952-3767
DAAA25-70-D-0335
Sept 1970
US
WATCH, Wrist General Purpose MIL-W-46374B
Timex Corp. NSN 6645-08-952-3767 Mfg. Part
No.DLA 406-81-C-2671Feb 1982
Dispose Rad Waste U.S. POST VIETNAM
VIETNAM SERVICE
THE MIL-W-4637 WAS MADE IN 20 STYLES HERE ARE
6 CASES MIL-W-4637 4 THROUGH 4A – 4G 9 1970-1991
MILITARY WATCHES USA
NOTE DATES NUMBERS STYLES
L-W-46374 (published10/30/1964)
Maker Type FSN/NSN Case Movement Dates Notes:
Benrus na 6645-952- PLA 7 j MEC 19663767
1969
Belforte na 6645-952- PLA 7 j MEC 1965 Benrus
3767
MIL-W-46374A (published 9/10/1968)
Maker Type FSN/NSN Case Movement Dates
Notes:
Benrus
na 6645-00- PLA 7 j MEC 1970952-3767
1976
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Westclox
na
Hamilton
na
6645-00- PLA
952-3767
6645-00- CRM
952-3767
6645-00- CRM
952-3767
Seiko
MEC
7 j MEC
1970
1970 – Australian
1975(?)
Army
Hamilton na
7 j MEC 1972- US Issue;
1975
Part No.
39988
MIL-W-46374B (published 5/7/1975)
Maker Type FSN/NSN Case Movement Dates
Notes:
Hamilton na 6645-00- CRM 7j MEC 1977- Part no.
952-3767
1983
39988
Timex
na 6645-00- PLA
Timex
1982
Limited
952-3767
#24 MEC
distribution
MIL-W-46374C (published 4/15/1983)
Stocker na 6645-00- PLA 1 j MEC 1983- SandY
& Yale
952-3767
1984
184
MIL-W-46374D (published 10/10/1986)
Stocker Type 6645-00- PLA 1 j MEC 1984- SandY
& Yale
2
952-3767
1986
184A
Marathon Type 6645-00- PLA
MEC
1990 Model
2
952-3767
348
Hamilton Type 6645-00- CRM 17j MEC 1988 39986;
1
066-4279
HCK
Hamilton
MIL-W-46374E (published 5/31/1989)
Maker
Type
FSN/NSN Case Movement Dates
Notes:
Marathon Type 6645-01-304- PLA 17j MEC 1991
Mod. 348A; tritium
2
4308
vials introduced
Stocker & Type 6645-00-066- PLA 17j MEC 1991 SandY 490; tritium
Yale
1
4279
HCK
vials
MIL-W-46374F (published 10/14/1991)
Maker
Type FSN/NSN Case Movement Dates Notes:
Marathon Type 6645-00- PLA 17j MEC
1
066-4279
HCK
199?- Model 348
2000 A
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Marathon Type
2
Marathon Type
3
Marathon Type
6
Model 359
Stocker
& Yale
6645-00- PLA ??j mech 1997
952-3767
6645-01- PLA QTZ HCK 199?
318-9833
6645-01- PLA QTZ HCK 1997
364-4042
–
2001
Type 6645-00- PLA 17j MEC 19931
066-4279
HCK
199?
SandY
490; ETA
2801
movement
Stocker &
Yale
Stocker &
Yale
Stocker &
Yale
Type
3
Type
6
Type
6
6645-01252-6705
6645-01364-4042
6645-01364-4042
Model
350A
Model
211,
Navigators
PLA
QTZ HCK
199?
SandY 590
PLA
QTZ HCK
P650
Navigators
STS
QTZ HCK
19952000
19951998
P660
Navigators
MIL-PRF-46374G (published 12/11/1999)
US GOV ISSUED 1968 VIETNAM WAR SINGLE PLASTIC CASE WESTCLOX MILITARY WATCH
MOVERMENT VERSIONS
M101 26D 7J 1965 – 1968 MIL VERSION D407 7J 1965 -1968 MIL VERSION
A 201 17J VERSION M101 26D 17J 1968 MIL VERSION M102 26D 21J 1968 MIL VERSION
NOTE. THE VIETNAM WAR HAD PX/BX R&R WATCHES.
THESE ARE SOME TO LOOK FOR.
WESTCLOX
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ANOTHER WESTCLOX VIETNAM
1962 Westclox
OWNED BY SF MEMBER
RARE VIETNAM ERA W/DATE
NOT THE WATCH THE
MOVEMENT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
PX R&R 1970-1971
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL
US
GOV ISSUE 1968/69 A ROUND IN
SQUARE FIRST INVENTED
BYOMEGA WWII
PX R&R 1965-1967
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL
WESTCLOX SOLD AND GAVE AWAY A FEW HUNDRED WESTCLOX WATCHES TO US SPECIAL FORCES
ADVISORS IN VIETNAM IN THE LATE 1950’S TO EARLY 1960’S. THE DESIGN FEATURES OF THESE TIME
PIECES AS WELL AS THEIR STAMINA IN THE FIELD WOULD FIND THEIR WAY INTO A SERIES OF
MILITARY WATCHES THAT WOULD PROVE NOT ONLY TO BE RUGGED AND EXCEPTIONAL, BUT ABLE
TO LAST IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM ACCORDING TO THE “GOV MUST DO” -LAST TWO YEARS W/O
SERVICE . THUS THIS WOULD GAIN WESTCLOX ONE OF THOSE US MILITARY CONTRACTS FOR
THOUSANDS OF US MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES FOR TROOPS IN VIETNAM.
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JAPANESE 2 VERSIONS
1968 MIL VERSION 7J
1970 MIL VERSION 7J
1969 M102 21J HK
1964 17J HK
FRENCH 4 VERSIONS
ZODIAC GMT
SWISS WITH 4 SQUARE
POPULAR PX/BX R&R
SEIKO 6105
ZODIAC SEA WOLF
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1955-1969 HELBROS TRUE
24HR
VIETNAM ERA WYLER
HELBROS DIVE
BULOVA 666 333 CARAVEL
BENRUS DIVE
1968 SEIKO 6106 8100
1968 SEIKO 6119 7170
1965 WALTHAM 24HR
WYLER 666
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<<<< HELO TO JET
THE ZODIAC GMT AEROSPACE
WAS ALSO TOP OF THE LIST. 24 HR & HACKING>>>>>
THE KEY IS TO TAKE YOUR TIME. I CANNOT DO MORE THAN THIS DUE TO SIZE OF FILE. BUT, YOU MAY RESEARCH THE
NUMBERS WITH DATES. NOTE THE INFO BELOW. THIS WILL ALLOW YOUR INVESTMENT TO BE CORRECT. I HAVE COVERED
MOST OF THE LEGITIMATE WATCHES ABOVE. THERE WERE SOME PROTOTYPES. REMEMBER, THE BRITISH DID NOT
BECOME INVOLVED IN ANY MANOR IN VIETNAM. NOT SUPPLYING, CONTRIBUTING OR EVEN ASSISTING. NO CROWS FOOT
ON WATCH BACK. TO WWW ON WATCH BACK. NO WWII TYPE CASE BACKS. NOT EVEN THROUGH THE AUSSIES--- THAT IS
AUSTRALIANS. THE AUSTRALIANS AND SOUTH KOREANS WEE MAJOR PARTNERS. BUT REMEMBER, SEE A WWW ON CAE
BACK. A BROAD ARROW STOP. TURN LEFT. CLICK MOVE ON. YOU MAY VIEW OUR ARTICLES AND TONS OF DATA ON 20
WEBSITES. JUST USE OUR LIVE SEARCH THIS WILL PRODUCE THE INFO THAT PROVIDES DATA WITH THIS pdf. LATER ROCK/
I HAD OVER WHAT? 30 TO 40,000 DOWNLOADS OF THIS PDF! LOTS OF BANDWIDTH I AM HAPPY IT IS POPULAR. I ADDED
MORE
LATER ROCK
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NOT EVEN A WALTHAM NOT GENUINE
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LONGINES NEVER MADE THIS WATCH MOVEMENT
AVIGATION NAVIGATION SPECIFICATION SPELLED WRONG
ANY OFFER WITH YELLOW COLOR THERE ARE NO INFO ON EDGES
AND NAME NO GO CASES DID NOT SCREW OFF SOLID ONE PIECE
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HAMILTON NEVER MADE MOV LONGINES NEVER MADE WATCHES FOR NAM
ALSO, LOOKS LIKE THE FAKE LONGINES
AGAIN LONGINES NEVER MADE
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NEVER WERE THEY SCREW BACKS
AND NAVIG AND OTHER ITEMS ARE WRONG
AGAIN LONGINES NEVER MADE
VIETNAM US GOV WATCHES
PLUS SPELLING IS WRONG
FAKE LONGINES AGAIN
JAG LA COULTRE NEVER MADE WATCHES
FOR US OR ANYONE NOT THE CHEAP
MOVEMENT.
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NOTE THE YELLOW MARKERS AND HANDS THE
BOLOVA ON DIAL
NOT NOT NOT FAKE
FAKE BULOVA
GENUINE BULOVA HACKING
MOVEMENT
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I HIGHLY DOUBT THIS CHEAP VIETNAM
CHINA MOV HACKS!NOTE THE
CASE BACK HAS SEAGULL STAMP FAKE
THE A-17 ABOVE MADE FOR
KOREAN WAR AS THE KOREAN WAR A-11 IS
CORRECT
NOR A HAMILTON HACKING
MOVEMENT
GG-W-1338 BUT THE ABOVE IS
FAKE NOTE DOUBLE STAMP ON
US DATE 1969 IT SHOULD BE S
INGLE CASE NO CASE BACK TO
REMOVE.
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THE BIGGEST FAKE OMEGA DID NOT MAKE US ISSUE
WATCHES PLUS SEE THE YELLOW?
ALSO HAD FAKE MOVEMENT
BREITLING NEVER MADE US
MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES
ANOTHER FAKE BREITLING
NEVER WAS THAT THERE CHINESE CASE
ALSO
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DUMP THESE YELLOW CHINESE FAKES
BREITLING NEVER MADE THIS CHEAP
MOVEMENT
NOR DID THEY EVER MAKE A US ISSUE
YOU CAN SHOUT TILL YOU ARE BLUE IN THE FACE
HERE WE SEE A7A THAT MEANS DUMP IT
THESE WERE NO BRITS IN VIETNAM NOR DID THEY
SUPPLY WATCHES THIS HAS US NAVY THE THE BRITISH
WWII W.W.W.STOOD FOR WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF
ONLY ENGLISH USED THIS
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FAKE A-7 NOTE THE MISSPELLING
FAKE NO ONE WAS ALLOWED
TO PLACE NAMES ON DIAL
THIS IS WHAT THE SINGLE
CASE SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE
NOTE THE CHINES/VIETNAMESE
YELLOW COLORED NUMBERS AND HANDS
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REMEMBER CASE BACKS DO NOT COME OFF
NO US MIL WATCH WAS AUTOMATIC
SOME DIALS MAY HAVE NAME IN DIAL NON
PAINTED
A FEW ELGINS I SAW REQUIRED GETTING
CLOSE AND SEEING A SLIGHT "ELGIN"
INDENT
NO US NAVY OR US ARMY NEVER HAPPENED YELLOW LOOK NEVER HAPPENED ANY THING
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WITH BRITISH BROAD ARROW NEVER HAPPENEDAUTOMATICS NEVER HAPPENED A-7 NEVER
HAPPENED
WOW REAL FAKE NO AUTOMATICS
FAKE J A C DID NOT MAKE
WATCHES FOR NAM NOR FOR TROOPERS
FAKE NO US NAVY WWW IS A BRITISH MARK WWII WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF
HAD NO FACT IN VIETNAM NO BRITS NOR WATCHE
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100% FAKE NOT COUNTERFEIT WATCHES
LOOK FOR HUNDREDS OF OFFERS ALL LOOKING THE SAME
UPDATE: THEY CHANGED THEIR BACK GROUNDS AGAIN. WHICH MEANS OUR WORKS ARE BEING FOLLOWED!JUST LOOK
FOR OFFERS THAT ARE THE SAME ACROSS SELLERS. HERE WE HAVE TWO FAKES. THESE ARE NOT COUNTERFEIT,
BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER MADE BY THE COMPANIES ATTRIBUTED TO IN THE SIGNINGS ON THE MOVEMENTS. THUS
THEY WERE NOT ISSUED BY THE COMPANIES UNDER ANY CONTRACT AND ARE NOT IN ANY US GOV CONTRACT SPECS.
THEY ARE FAKES SOLD AS SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT. FRAUD. THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A FAKE BREITLING AND THE
MOVEMENT IS THE SAME AS THE BOTTOM RIGHT FAKE JAEGER LECOULTRE. NO WAY DID BREITLING AND JLC PRODUCE
THE SAME MOVEMENTS.AND IN FACT, EVEN THE A-11, A-8, MIL-W-3818 38, GG-W-113, MIL-W-4637 AND OTHER US
GOVERNMENT ISSUED WWII AND VIETNAM ERA MILITARY WATCH CONTRACTS PROVIDED THE MAIN PLANS, EACH
VENDER/BRAND PRODUCED THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS. SO THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT. LIKE THE BREITLING AND
LECOULTRE, THE TWO TOP MOVEMENTS ARE ALSO FAKE /FRAUDULENT AN ELGIN AND WALTHAM WATCH WITH THE DEAD
GIVEAWAY BEING BOTH MOVEMENTS ARE ALIKE. NEITHER ARE ACTUAL MOVEMENTS USED IN MILITARY WATCHES IN THE
USA OR ANYWHERE ELSE THAT I CAN TELL . THE FACT IS MOVEMENTS OF SEPARATE BRANDS BEING EXACT IS SIMPLY
UNHEARD OF IN MILITARY ISSUED WATCHES. WHEN LOOKING AT A BRAND, SEARCH THE BRAND. THEN COMPARE
AGAINST OTHER BRANDS, BUT VIEWING THE MOVEMENT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
THE US GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY REQUIRED DIALS TO BE EXACTLY ALIKE. HARDLY ANY VIETNAM ERA WATCH HAD
NAMES ON THE DIAL. LOOK AT THE TOP US GOV PHOTO OF ACTUAL DIALS. THEY HAD TO BE EXACT AS TO THE
SPECIFICATIONS FOR THAT MODEL.
THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE CONCERNING NAMES ON DIALS WERE FEW. THE ABOVE RIGHT DIAL HAS "MFR'S NAME "
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ON IT. THE SPEC CALLED FOR IT. THIS IS THE FAMOUS BULOVA FIRST NAVY AUTOMATIC DIVE WATCH CONTRACT THAT
WAS ASSUMED BY BLANCPAIN .
NOTE THE DIAL IS FOR THE DIVE WATCH OUTLINED IN THE 1961 MIL-W-22176 AND 1961 + MIL-W-22176-A SPECIFICATIONS.
THIS WOULD BECOME THE PLANS FOR BLANCPAIN'S FIFTY FATHOMS. BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED BY THE US NAVY.
SEE THE ROUND MOISTURE INDICATOR AT BOTTOM ABOVE SIX? IT WAS DESIGNED IN 1960. BLANCPAIN WOULD MAKE
10,000 WATCHES FOR THE NAVY SEALS. THEN WOULD USE THE DESIGN AS "Milspec 1" WHICH MEANT "MILITARY
SPECIFICATIONS 1" (THE ACTUAL NAVEL SPECIFICATIONS ARE ON TIMEFRAUD. THUS THE DATING OF THE WATCH AND THE
ACTUAL SPECIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES TO DISCOVER THE FACTS OF DIALS AND DATES OF
PRODUCTION.
NOTE THE GG-W-113 HAS NO NAME.. OK? IF YOU READ CASE BACK AND IT HAS 113 THEN EXPECT NO NAME ON DIAL.
THE A-17 HAD NO NAME... IT HAD RADIUM NUMERALS. LOOK AT THE PICTURE ABOVE! IF THE DIAL LOOKS LIKE ALL THE
OTHER FAKES WITH OFF BLACK DIAL WITH YELLOWISH EVERYTHING ELSE SO PERFECT AND NEAT IT IS A FAKE UNLESS
DESCRIBED IN DETAIL, AND I MEAN DIAL. THE 3118A HAVE HAD BULOVA ON THE DIAL WHICH HAD TO BE ALLOWED AND
REQUESTED BY CONTRACT AND SPECS!
THEY WERE ALL NOTE THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE FAKES YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THEM IF YOU SIMPLY LOOK!
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WESTCLOX BENRUS ET AL. HAD THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS AND THEY LOOK AND ARE SIGNED AND MADE DIFFERENT EVEN
IF THE CASES LOOK THE SAME.
THE CASES ON US GOV MIL ISSUE MILITARY WATCHES WERE ALWAYS EXACT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE TO THE SPECS, GET
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THE ID FROM THE CASE BACK. THE MODEL NUMBER A GOOGLE IT BEFORE YOU INVEST OR BID. USE PICTURES TO SPEED
THE PROCESS. COMPARE.
CHECK CASE BACKS FOR SPELLING ERA' LIKE THE WORD "SPECIFICATION" OR HOW THE WRITING IMPRINTING PRESSING
STAMPINGS ARE.
IF YOU KNOW IT IS A FAKE AND BUY IT EVERYONE IS GETTING RIPPED -- SOMETIMES IT TAKES TIME TO KNOW, LIKE WHEN
IT BREAKS AND THE WATCH MAKER SAYS I CANNOT FIX THIS FAKE
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FAKE WESTCLOX OD PLASTIC CASED VIETNAM ERA MILITARY ISSUE ARE COPIED AND FAKED . LOOK FOR SLOPPY AND
MISS-ALIGNED INFO ON CASE BACK. BROAD ARROW AND WWW CASE BACKS ADVERTISED AS US GOV MIL ISSUE ARE
FAKE. PERIOD. A-7 DESIGNATION ON CASE BACK ARE FAKE. PERIOD. CASE BACKS WITH SPELLING WRONG ARE FAKE,
PERIOD. A-17 OR A-17A ARE FAKE IF THE DIALS ARE NOT LIKE THOSE IN THE #2 PICTURE ABOVE. AND, WITH HE
EXCEPTION OF THE RARE BULOVA/BLANCPAIN NAVY DIVE WATCH EARLY 1960'S, ANY US GOV MILITARY ISSUED WATCH
WITH AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT IS FRAUD FAKE AND A RIP OFF. YOU WILL HAVE TO LIE AND COMMIT FRAUD IF YOU READ
THIS AND BUY ONE OR HAVE ONE AND RESELL IT AS WHAT IT IS NOT: GENUINE.
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OH.. LET ME HELP YOU OUT. IT SEEMS THE SAME COMPANIES ARE MAKING UP THESE FAKES.
A) SPECIFICATION NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY 60%
B) MFR'S IS NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY
C) A-7 IS A NO BRAINER. NOT UNLESS IT IS A POCKET WATCH CHRONO LONGINES GALLET MOVEMENT ONE BIG POCKET
TYPE CROWN WITH PUSHER IN CENTER ALSO NOTE WORDS AVIGATION AND THE MISSPELLING MIR'S INSTEAD OF MRF'S
AND SPICIIICATION INSTEAD OF SPECIFICATION. A FAKE SOLD ON EBAY AROUND 9-06/2012 FOR OVER 200.00 US!
D) THE CASE BACK HAS ELGIN STOCK NO 10BNCH OR WALTHAM STOCK NO 10BNCH AND THEN THESE LETTERS/NUMBERS
10BNCH . THE 10BNCH IS THE BULOVA HACKING MOVEMENT PLACED ONLY IN THE BULOVA MIL ISSUE BULOVA STOCK NO.
10BNCH. SO BULOVA STOCK NO 10BNCH WOULD BE PROPER.. BUT EVEN THEN, CHECK WHAT WE ARE SHOWING YOU .
E) BULOVA DID NOT, I REPEAT, DID NOT RECEIVE CONTRACTS FOR VIETNAM ERA GOV MIL SPEC ISSUE WATCHES. WE
HAVE THE APPEAL OF BULOVA TO THE U.S. MILITARY BOARD AND THEIR DENIAL TO ALLOW BULOVA TO BE OFFERED
CONTRACT FULFILLMENT. BENRUS WAS THE WINNER..
F) BRITISH MILITARY WWII AND AFTER W.W.W. [WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF] AND 1500' ON, BRITISH BROAD ARROW
DESIGNATION SPECIFICATION IS ONLY ON BRITISH WATCHES AND THE BRITISH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH VIETNAM. ALL
THROUGH TIME.. LITERALLY, THE BRITISH ADDED BROAD ARROW TO CASE BACKS AND ON SOME DIALS, WWI, WWII THE
1950'S AND 1960'S, ON TIMERS IN THE 1980'S. THE BRITISH WAR DEPARTMENT ORDERED MILITARY WATCHES DESIGNATED
W.W.W FOR WATCH WRIST WATERPROOF. THESE W.W.W. WATCHES WERE TO HAVE BLACK RADIUM DIALS, 15 JEWEL
MOVEMENTS, SUB SECONDS- PERSPEX SHATTER RESISTANT GLASS, STRONG CASES WITH EXTRA WATER PROOFING
AND LARGE CROWNS. 12 MANUFACTURERS BUREN, CYMA, ETERNA, GRANA, IWC , JLC, Lemania, LONGINES, OMEGA,
RECORD, TIMOR and VERTEX] SELECTED TO FILL THE ORDERS. EACH WOULD PRODUCE WATCHES SIMILAR TO EACH
OTHER. ALL WOULD HAVE SCREW DOWN CASE BACKS EXCEPT IWC, WHO UTILIZED A SNAP CASE BACK WITH A LEAD
WASHER SEAL.
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ANOTHER TARGET FRAUD IS THE ORD. DEPT WATCHES WE DISCOVER FROM ASIA. OR SOMETIMES THE US BUT ARE
FROM ASIA. NOTE ABOVE. THEY HAVE USED A COUNTERFEIT DIAL WITH GREEN ILLUMINATED TRIANGULAR MARKERS.
THEY PLACED A HAMILTON NAME WITH THE H LOGO -- DUH-- SCREAMS FAKE. THEN THEY CNC THE CASE BACK. BUT THE
GIVEAWAY IS THE MOVEMENTS. YOU SEE IT IS A 1950'S AUTOMATIC. NONE WERE UTILIZED IN US GOV ISSUE MIL
WATCHES. AND WHY DID I SAY CNC CUT CASE BACK? THE CASE IS FOR AN AUTOMATIC. SO THEY DID NOT USE A MIL
CASE, CASE BACK AND DIAL AND SIMPLY CHANGE THE MOVEMENT. THE ENTIRE ENSEMBLE IS FAKE. MEANING THE BACK
CASE WAS CARVED AND NOT STAMPED - ONE CAN TELL BECAUSE IT IS NO PERFECT.
6.
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WHEN YOU SEE CASES TAKE THE TIME TO ASK VENDER WHAT ERA, WHAT IS ON CASE BACK. THEN GOOGLE IT BEFORE
YOU MAKE A BID.
THE FAKE --NOT COUNTERFEIT-- US NAVY WWW WRIST WATCH IS FRAUD AT IT'S BEST. EVERY THING PART AND NOTATION
IS FRAUDULENT. ALL DESIGNED TO STEAL YOUR MONEY. EVER GO TO RESELL? WELL, YOU CAN BE CHARGED WITH
FRAUD! CAUSE IT IS FAKE FAKE ELGIN, OMEGA, WALTHAM , LECOULTRE, BULOVA, WESTCLOX... US NAVY US ARMY WWW
BROAD ARROW DIALS ALL THE SAME MOVEMENTS THE SAME WITH DIFFERENT BRANDS, AUTOMATICS , CASES THE
SAME YET UNLIKE WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU Google THEM.....THE US GOVERNMENT, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, THE
BULOVA/BLANCPAIN NAVY DIVER, NEVER EVER CONTRACTED OR PRODUCED GOV SPECS FOR AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT
WATCHES. THE ONLY ONE WAS THE DIVE WATCH WE DISCUSSED..ABOVE WE HAVE A FAKE LONGINES THE DIAL IS NOT A
LONGINES DIAL THAT IS ON THE A-7 AND LONGINES NEVER MADE A DIAL LIKE THIS NO LONGINES WERE MADE FOR
VIETNAM AND IN WWII LONGINES MADE MILITARY WATCHES BUT NOT THE TYPE OFFERED THROUGH US GOVERNMENT
AND THE DIALS WERE WHITE OR BLACK WITH RAISED RADIUM NUMBERS WITH 24HR ALSO ON SOME. WHEN WE LOOK AT
THIS MOVEMENT WE SEE CHEAP ALSO WE SEE A 360 DEGREE AUTOMATIC MEANING THE ROTOR SPINS 360 DEGREES
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ONLY THE BUMPER 180 WAS AVAILABLE BEFORE 1950 OR A RARE ROLEX 360. FACT IS, AS I SAID, NEVER EVER A US
MILITARY WATCH NOR A LONGINES MOVEMENT
AND, AS DESCRIBED BELOW, UNDER A-7 AVIGATION, THE TYPE A-7 WAS BEFORE THE A-8 JITTERBUG NAV 1938 TIMER AND
THE 1942 A-11 HACKING PILOTS WATCH . THE A-7 WAS A CHRONOGRAPH WITH GALLET CHRONO MOVEMENT WITH LARGE
CROWN WITH CENTER BUTTON IN CROWN IT WAS MORE LIKE A POCKET WATCH CASE WITH TWO SUB-DIALS ON THE MAIN
DIALNOW FOR THE BIGGEST FAKE, THAT IS USING THE DESIGNATION # SPEC SHEET NO. THE NAME A-7 THE US MIL A-7
WATCH. YOU WILL SEE TONS OF WATCHES WITH A-7 ON BACK CAUSE? IT IS HARD TO FIND THE REAL A-7 SO WE DECIDED
TO SHOW YOU ONE....:THE A-7 A-8 AND A-11 ARE DESIGNATIONS OF SPECIFICATIONS THAT PRODUCED MILITARY ISSUE
WATCHES WW11 AND BEFORE. A) THE A-7 WAS THE 1930'S "AVIGATION" WATCH
B) THE A-8 IS THE FAMOUS JITTERBUG NAV TIMER
C) THE A-11 FAMOUS HACKING PILOTS WATCH. EACH WERE MADE FOR WW11
THE AVIGATION WAS THOUGHT TO BE A COOL NAME FOR NAVIGATION AND AVIATION.
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THE FACT IS, THIS IS THE HARDEST WATCH TO FAKE.
LOOK, BREITLING JAEGER LECOULTRE OMEGA DID NOT HAVE US MILITARY CONTRACTS FOR WATCHES. WATCHES
STATED AS AMERICAN US NAVY ARMY --WHAT EVER -- WITH "W.W.W. AND/OR "BROAD ARROW" ON CASE BACK ARE
FAKES. THESE ARE BRITISH DESIGNATIONS -ESPECIALLY OFFERS WITH THE WORD "VIETNAM" IN THEM. NOTE NO BRAND
ABOVE? AS IF THE GOV MADE THE WATCH. AN THIS OMEGA FAKE SOLD FOR SOME LARGE BUCKS. AGAIN IT WAS A
FAKEIF THE MOVEMENT IS NOT SHOWN DO NOT BUY UNLESS YOU ARE SURE.SO ASK QUESTIONS OR VISIT THE HELP
SITE TIMEFRAUD. TIMEFRAUD DOES NOT SELL NOR SPONSOR SALES SITES OR ANYTHING BUT EXPOSING FRAUD AND
ATTEMPTING TO INSURE YOU ARE TREATED FAIRLY.TIMEFRAUD IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO POST, ADD INFORMATION AND
PROVIDE ANY CORRECTIONS OF CONTENT THAT EXISTS. ALL PICTURES IN/ON TIMEFRAUD AND HERE IN THIS GUIDE ARE
UTILIZED UNDER THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS AND IST AMENDMENT CLAUSE OF THE US. CONSTITUTION. THEY ARE
UTILIZED TO REPORT INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC AND AS SUCH, ANY CAUSE OR ACTION UNDER LAW SHALL
BE FILED/HEARD IN THE NORTHERN DISTRICT FEDERAL COURT OF GEORGIA . IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD, OR TO
CORRECT, PLEASE EMAIL THE POSTER.
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STRAP IS ROCKS FAMOUS CAMO IN GREEN
ANOTHER WATCH AND COMPASS
RED CROSS WESTCLOX SECRET ESCAPE MAP
yes the maps, watches and base straps are real
i make the compartments
WWI WWII KOREA VIETNAM AFGHANISTAN MARINE CORPS BULLS EYE
FREE FRENCH BUCHERER CONVERTIBLE
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GERMAN INTELLIGENCE WWII WATCH the 12th I RESTORED, SNATCHED UP FOR A RIDICULOUS LOW INVESTMENT.
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A-8 WWII OR 96TH WWII
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JAPANESE ARMY POCKET WATCH SKS 1930/40
1941 BU-SHIPS 1915/17
WITH ATTACHED REG STRAPS CUFFS
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