The Christadelphian Doctrine of Fellowship
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The Christadelphian Doctrine of Fellowship
The Christadelphian Doctrine of Fellowship Consisting of the unaltered expositions of original Christadelphian doctrine and practice, and eye-witness testimonies — in opposition to the alterations, misrepresentations, and misattributions of those writings “The principle of ecclesial independence has been clearly recognized and sacredly upheld among us hitherto as a principle vital to the objects of the truth in the development of brethren and sisters in the simple ways of faith, in preparation for the coming of Christ.” Bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 167 (Excerpt) "Fellowship is friendly association for the promotion of a common object— with more or less of the imperfection belonging to all mortal life. To say that every man in that fellowship is responsible for every infirmity of judgment that may exist in the association is an extreme to which no man of sound judgment can lend himself. There will be flawless fellowship in the perfect state. Perhaps it is the admiration of this in prospect that leads some to insist upon it now. But it is none the less a mistake." Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1898 (Excerpt) “Beloved brethren, human nature is always tending to extremes, and transcending what is written. As the saying is, it will strain out gnats, and swallow camels by the herd. It set up the Inquisition, and is essentially and always inquisitorial, and incessantly prying into matters beyond its jurisdiction. It is very fond of playing the judge, and of executing its own decrees. It has a zeal, but not according to knowledge, and therefore, its zeal is intemperate, and not the zeal of wisdom, or knowledge rightly used. It professes great zeal for the purity of the church, and would purge out everything that offends its sensitive imagination. But is it not a good thing to have a church without tares, without a black sheep, or spotted heifer? Yea, verily, it is an excellent thing. But, then, it is a thing the Holy Spirit has never yet developed; and cannot now be developed by any human judiciary in the administration of spiritual affairs. There are certain things that must be left to the Lord’s own adjudication when he comes; as it is written, ‘He that judgeth is the Lord. Therefore, judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come; who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts; and then shall every man have praise of the Deity’—(1 Cor., 4:5. Apoc. 11:18)—‘every man,’ whose hidden things and heart-counsels when brought to light will be accounted worthy much of praise. Does not this teach us how more important it is that brethren be more diligent in examining themselves than in examining other brethren; and that the Lord expects them to leave something for him to do in the way of judging, condemning, excommunicating, cutting off, and casting out, in ‘the time of the dead that they should be judged?’ ‘Brethren, be not children in understanding; howbeit, in malice be ye children, but in understanding be teleia perfect.’—(1 Cor., 14:20.)” By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1866, p. 92-93 (Excerpt) Table of Contents Introduction.......................................................................................................................................1 Preface ...................................................................................................................................................... 2 The Berean Presentation Misrepresents Original Christadelphian Fellowship Doctrine and Practice . 2 Bereans Have Changed the Pioneer Writings and Omitted From Print Those Which Disagree With Their Practices ....................................................................................................................................... 5 Historical Reality vs. Berean Claims ..................................................................................................... 9 Summary of Principles ........................................................................................................................ 13 If the Berean Fellowship Constitutes The True Ecclesia… ................................................................... 16 Additional Material in this Publication ............................................................................................... 17 Cross References to the Berean Presentation ......................................................................................... 19 The Basis of Fellowship .................................................................................................................... 23 The Birmingham Constitution #2, & #3................................................................................................... 24 A Guide To The Formation and Conduct of Christadelphian Ecclesias, #34.................................................... 24 Statement of Faith — Clause #16 ............................................................................................................ 24 Tour in Scotland....................................................................................................................................... 25 Notes (Nullifying Doctrine)...................................................................................................................... 25 The Bible Doctrine of Life ................................................................................................................... 25 Letter From Dr. Thomas ...................................................................................................................... 26 The Doctrine of Judgment and Validity of Immersion ........................................................................ 26 The Apostles’ Fellowship .................................................................................................................... 27 Intelligence (Ecclesial Notes) .............................................................................................................. 27 Historical Remembrances; or, Satan Rebuked .................................................................................... 28 The Nature and Conditions of Fellowship in the Truth ........................................................................... 28 Answers to Correspondents (Reimmersion)....................................................................................... 31 Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue, Birmingham. – No. 4 ............................................ 32 Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue, Birmingham. – No. 22 .......................................... 33 Ecclesial Independence .................................................................................................................... 35 Associations—John Kerr—The Dunkards—Trine Immersion ................................................................... 36 Excerpt from Eureka (“this new order of things” vs. “the order instituted by the Apostles”) ........... 38 The Ecclesial Guide #1 ............................................................................................................................. 38 The Ecclesial Guide #20 ........................................................................................................................... 38 The Ecclesial Guide #44 ........................................................................................................................... 39 Rule #35 of The Birmingham Constitution .............................................................................................. 39 Notice to the Public. ........................................................................................................................... 40 The Question of the Inspiration of the Bible ...................................................................................... 40 Notes .................................................................................................................................................. 42 Intelligence (Australia) (Ecclesial Independence) ............................................................................... 42 Proposed Fraternal Gathering ............................................................................................................ 42 Answers to Correspondents (The Christadelphians and Their Attitude) ............................................ 43 The Truth in Organic Manifestation in Nottingham ............................................................................ 43 “It Seemed Good to the Holy Spirit and to Us” .................................................................................. 44 Notes (“We have no power”) ............................................................................................................. 45 Ecclesial Responsibilities..................................................................................................................... 45 “Pluralism” .......................................................................................................................................... 46 “The Christadelphian” and the Constitution of the Birmingham Ecclesia ......................................... 47 “The Christadelphian” in Australia ..................................................................................................... 48 Is It to Be a Central Tribunal? ............................................................................................................. 48 The Christadelphian (There are Now Movements) ............................................................................ 49 Ecclesial Representation ..................................................................................................................... 50 Ecclesial Responsibilities..................................................................................................................... 52 The Pillar and Ground of the Truth..................................................................................................... 53 Ecclesias, Sunday Schools and Youth Circles ...................................................................................... 54 Dr. Thomas on the Subject of Conferences ........................................................................................ 55 Answers to Correspondents ............................................................................................................... 56 Statements of Faith .......................................................................................................................... 59 Notes (A Common Statement of Faith) ............................................................................................... 60 Statements of Faith ............................................................................................................................ 60 “The Christadelphian Statement of Faith” ......................................................................................... 61 The Fermentation of Error .................................................................................................................. 62 Creeds ................................................................................................................................................. 62 Ecclesial Notices and Statements Demonstrating the Autonomy of Early Christadelphian Ecclesias, Their Bases of Fellowship and Fellowship Practices ........................................................................... 65 The State of the Mortal Ecclesias ...................................................................................................... 75 Eureka (“the saints are a mixed community”).................................................................................... 76 Letter From Dr. Thomas ...................................................................................................................... 77 The Flying Roll, the Ephah, the Woman, the Talent of Lead, and the Two Women… ........................ 78 Interesting Communication From Dr. Thomas (The True Apostolic Succession) ................................ 79 To Sardis .................................................................................................................................................. 80 Letter From Dr. Thomas ...................................................................................................................... 81 The Depths of the Satan as they Speak .............................................................................................. 83 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 262 ......................................... 84 Excommunication ............................................................................................................................ 85 The Christadelphian (April, 1891) ....................................................................................................... 86 Answers to Correspondents (Open Sin) .................................................................................................. 86 Fellowship in The Truth ...................................................................................................................... 87 The Christadelphian ................................................................................................................................ 87 Is It to Be a Central Tribunal? ............................................................................................................. 88 Answers to Correspondents ............................................................................................................... 88 Extracts from Correspondence ........................................................................................................... 88 Fellowship Practice .......................................................................................................................... 89 Notes (Letter of Recommendation) ................................................................................................... 90 Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue. – No. 14 (Schism Apostolically Defined) ......... 90 Dr. Thomas and Divisions ................................................................................................................... 93 Answers to Correspondents ............................................................................................................... 95 Fellowship in The Truth ...................................................................................................................... 95 Dr. Thomas in Scotland in 1849 .......................................................................................................... 97 Cross Currents in Ecclesial Waters ...................................................................................................... 98 Answers to Correspondents .................................................................................................................... 98 Queries Proposed by J.A.I. to Dr Thomas, For Categorical Answer .................................................... 98 True Principles and Uncertain Details................................................................................................. 99 The Christadelphian (April, 1891) ..................................................................................................... 106 Notes (“Progress”) ................................................................................................................................. 108 Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue, Birmingham. – No. 49 ........................................ 108 From Birmingham to New York and Back.............................................................................................. 111 The Question of the Inspiration of the Bible .................................................................................... 112 Judas, Fellowship, Debt, and Kindness ............................................................................................. 115 Intelligence (Ecclesial Notes) (Defining Their Position) ......................................................................... 116 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 289 ............................................ 117 A True Christadelphian Ecclesia............................................................................................................. 118 The Christadelphian .............................................................................................................................. 121 Cross Currents in Ecclesial Waters......................................................................................................... 122 Our Duty Towards Error and Errorists ................................................................................................... 128 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 79 .............................................. 130 Intelligence (United States) ................................................................................................................... 133 Answers to Correspondents (Offender and Offended) ......................................................................... 134 Meditations–No. XXX ............................................................................................................................ 135 Answers to Correspondents (Division) .................................................................................................. 136 Books, Pamphlets, MSS., &c., received during the Month. .................................................................. 136 Answers to Correspondents (Mortal Resurrection and Fellowship) ................................................ 137 Tour Through England and Scotland................................................................................................. 138 So-Called “Heresy-Hunting,” A Duty ...................................................................................................... 138 Notes (“To ‘hunt for heresy’… is not the course of the righteous”) ................................................. 139 Letter from Dr. Thomas ......................................................................................................................... 140 Our Great Sin ......................................................................................................................................... 144 The Christadelphian .............................................................................................................................. 146 The End of the Inspiration Controversy in Birmingham ........................................................................ 147 Notes (The Action at Birmingham) ................................................................................................... 155 Notes (Persistent Error) ......................................................................................................................... 155 Tour in Scotland..................................................................................................................................... 155 The Obedience of Christ and His Brethren............................................................................................ 159 Answers to Correspondents (“If a brother sin” – In Doctrine or Practice) ............................................ 165 Intelligence (Ecclesial Notes) ................................................................................................................. 165 Answers to Correspondents (Open Sin) ................................................................................................ 167 Answers to Correspondents (Rifle Corps Membership and Electioneering) ......................................... 168 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 223 ............................................ 168 Answers to Correspondents .................................................................................................................. 169 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 81 .............................................. 170 Fellowship and Forbearance ................................................................................................................. 171 The Gospel and the Baptists of the Seventh Century ........................................................................... 174 Notes (Free will) .................................................................................................................................... 176 Chat With Correspondents, and Extracts From Some of Their Letters ................................................. 176 Intelligence (Canada)............................................................................................................................. 177 A Sad Letter on the Nature of Christ and Resurrection-Judgment........................................................ 177 Birmingham Miscellanies ...................................................................................................................... 180 Intelligence (Bournemouth) .................................................................................................................. 180 Chapter XXI – Strained Relations With Dr. Thomas............................................................................... 181 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 194 ............................................ 184 Answers to Correspondents (The Christadelphians and Their Attitude)............................................... 186 Resurrectional Responsibility and Fellowship ....................................................................................... 189 Parting Words from Campbellism .................................................................................................... 195 Withdrawal, and When ......................................................................................................................... 196 The Apocalypse on the Question of Fellowship .................................................................................... 197 Answers to Correspondents (The Apocalypse and the Obedience of Faith)......................................... 197 Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue. – No. 51.............................................................. 199 Thoughts And Thoughts.—No. 2 ........................................................................................................... 200 Fellowship ............................................................................................................................................. 204 Ecclesial Fellowship ............................................................................................................................... 205 Lessons From Ecclesiastical History ................................................................................................. 217 John Lawrence Von Mosheim........................................................................................................... 219 The Organization of the Early Christian Churches Edwin Hatch ....................................................... 221 Introduction For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the ecclesia. Ephesians 5:29 1 Preface The compiler of this material has for some time objected to the Berean presentation of pioneer writings on fellowship. Their presentation has appeared in the pages of Berean magazines, the book The Doctrine of Fellowship and Berean web sites. Some of this Berean material has been reused by brethren in other fellowships, including the compiler, without knowing the altered and misleading nature of the Berean materials. I would like to briefly address why the Berean presentation misrepresents original (circa 1860-1923) Christadelphian fellowship doctrine and practice, and then, to show examples where these works were modified or rewritten. The Berean Presentation Misrepresents Original Christadelphian Fellowship Doctrine and Practice While the Berean presentation claims to represent original Christadelphian fellowship doctrine and practice, readers should note that no effort is made in the Berean presentation to communicate these facts: 1. Following the Biblical model, pre-1930 Christadelphian ecclesias were each strictly self-governing and independent organizations. Ecclesial unions (Fellowships) had not yet developed. Following the Biblical model, the early Christadelphians (pre-1930) made no attempt to create any kind of organization other than independent local ecclesias. 2. Following the Biblical model, there was no standardized basis of fellowship amongst these early ecclesias. There was no statement known as “The Christadelphian Statement of Faith” (see Statements of Faith, p. 60) and all Christadelphian ecclesias were expected to either create, or modify and adopt an existing statement of faith which became that ecclesia’s own basis of fellowship. Ten years after the death of brother Thomas, a suggestion was made to brother Roberts which appears in The Christadelphian, 1881, p. 572. A brother suggested that a common statement of faith be developed and adopted by the ecclesias. This would have provided the ecclesias with a common and standardized basis of fellowship, but bro. Roberts rejected it (the note appears on page 60). If bro. Roberts’ view of the doctrine and practice of fellowship matched that of the Bereans, either bro. Thomas or bro. Roberts would have established a common Statement of Faith well before 1881. The fact that they did not do so completely overthrows all claims the Bereans have made about upholding pioneer practices. These early Christadelphian ecclesias were more than capable of withdrawing fellowship from errorists without adopting Berean ideas and innovations regarding the doctrine or practice of fellowship. 3. In accepting and promoting the Biblical model, brother John Thomas denounced Associations of Ecclesias (Fellowships) as a mark of the apostasy. This article, see page 36, originally appeared in 1835 and a shortened form, based on the same quote from Mosheim, appears in Eureka, volume 2, page 321. 4. Following the Biblical model, all ecclesias were individually responsible for deciding who they would fellowship or not fellowship. If an individual or ecclesia was too lax either in doctrine or practice, including fellowship, any other ecclesia was free to withdraw or not accept fellowship until and unless the offending ecclesia made appropriate correction. This also allowed individuals, assuming there was no fundamental error held, to freely move from an erring ecclesia to a sound ecclesia with nothing more than an affirmation of the new ecclesia’s basis of fellowship. In no way were ecclesial unions involved. 5. Following the Biblical model, there was no Christadelphian Fellowship, no Temperance Hall Fellowship, no Central Fellowship, and no Berean Fellowship. There was no attempt to create an ecclesial union / a union of ecclesias / or a society of ecclesias and this practice was explicitly 2 spoken against, out of a well-grounded fear, that such an unscriptural union would degenerate into what were known as ‘conferences’. Conferences were voluntary and often permanent councils or unions of neighboring churches, designed for mutual advice and cooperation in ecclesiastical matters. They always degenerated into dictatorial busy-bodies in the affairs of individual churches. Early Christadelphians precluded this by preventing the formation of ecclesial unions. 6. The pioneer brethren recognized there was, by the hand of Providence, a “satanic element” (page 76) within those mortal ecclesias which had to be resisted according to Apostolic commandment. While the satanic element was to be treated according to apostolic command, there was no attempt to create a worldwide union of ecclesias which was purified from that element. That is to say, there was no attempt to create a mortal super-ecclesial organization (a.k.a. Fellowship) on top of, or out of, the local ecclesias. 7. The pioneer brethren did not make the mistake of confusing The Ecclesia (The Body of Christ) for a union of mortal ecclesias (a Fellowship) for they recognized no such mortal unions. Many modern Christadelphians, including the Bereans, believe that they are in fellowship with everyone, or almost everyone, in their ecclesial union or Fellowship. This was neither an apostolic, nor an early Christadelphian doctrine or practice. Rather, they explicitly denied it. 8. If those issues were not already important enough, The Doctrine of Fellowship, which has been given to potential Berean members, fails to identify exactly what the Bereans actually accept and practice as a basis of fellowship. The Berean position is not what the pioneer brethren used, so if The Doctrine of Fellowship is a sound guide on the subject, why is this essential topic ignored? In The DOF we do find statements from the pioneer brethren such as “the whole truth as the basis of fellowship” or a more explicit comment by bro. Roberts that “The belief of the truth is not a sufficient basis of fellowship if it be allied with wrong-doing or nullifying doctrine.” If the Berean doctrine of fellowship and Berean practice matches that of the pioneer brethren, why does The Doctrine of Fellowship leave out the published Berean basis of fellowship? The Berean, 1980, p. 11-27; 1986, p. 11-27; 1996, p. 11-27; 2000 p. 11-27 3 The published Berean basis of fellowship (see The Berean, 1980, p. 11-27; 1986, p. 11-27; 1996, p. 11-27; 2000 p. 11-27 + at least 2 pamphlet printings + web sites) consists of: The Statement of Faith Doctrines to Be Rejected The Commandments of Christ And… The Common Constitution. Note the boldface items of the Berean “Common Constitution” which are published as “matters vital to fellowship” (see image above). Oddly, if an ecclesia met Saturday night to accommodate a special-needs situation, it would be a violation of a clause of the Common Constitution marked as “vital fellowship parts”. The Berean, 1980, p. 11-27; 1986, p. 11-27; 1996, p. 11-27; 2000 p. 11-27 The Berean Restatement: Along with the previous four documents, the Bereans publish, under the title “Our Basis of Fellowship”, the Berean Restatement. The Berean Restatement claims that it is not an addition to the basis of fellowship. However, as the image above shows, it also states “the Berean Restatement was unanimously adopted as expressing the mind of the whole Body. We invite the fellowship of any who are wholly of one mind with us.” ‘Wholly’ is italicized in the “Restatement”. Bereans have required acceptance of the Berean Restatement as part of their basis of fellowship. If words mean anything, Bereans do not invite fellowship with anyone who does not assent to every clause of the Berean Restatement. 4 When it was pointed out that the 1980 publication of “Our Basis of Fellowship” included a new addition to the Berean basis, “The Common Constitution” of which the introductory material says, it contains some “matters vital to fellowship”, one Berean responded by saying that it was “simply an article by Bro. Growcott”. However, this same basis of fellowship has been published in The Berean magazine in 1980, 1986, 1996 and 2000 along with at least two publications in pamphlet form and numerous Berean web sites publishing the same basis. Most of the republications of the Berean basis have taken place after the death of bro. Growcott. When I personally applied many years back for details on the Berean basis of fellowship — bro. G.V.G was then dead — other Bereans were more than happy to provide this same 16 page booklet asking me to read it carefully and asking for my agreement. Why didn’t the Berean compilers of The Doctrine of Fellowship juxtapose the modern Berean “Our Basis of Fellowship” next to the Birmingham Christadelphian basis of fellowship from bro. Roberts’ day which consisted of the Statement of Faith, including the DTBR, and Commandments of Christ? Would readers of the Berean presentation have noticed the obvious differences? It should be pointed out that the Bereans in 1960 who made the initial changes to their 1923 basis of fellowship violated their own constitution for Clause 3 of the constitution reads: “That we recognize as brethren, and welcome to our fellowship, all who have been immersed (by whomsoever) after their acceptance of the same doctrines and precepts.” If you look at Clause 2 of the Berean constitution, it defines those “doctrines and precepts” as “the doctrines and precepts of Christ, as taught in the apostolic writings, and defined (both positively and negatively) in the annexed Statement of Faith and Commandments of Christ”. The Constitution, or rules by which Berean ecclesias are supposed to operate, says nothing about brothers and sisters having to accept the name “Berean”, “Berean Fellowship”, the Berean claims about the doctrine of fellowship, the Berean Restatement, or “matters vital to fellowship” in the Berean Common Constitution. Bereans Have Changed the Pioneer Writings and Omitted From Print Those Which Disagree With Their Practices As to Berean alterations to the pioneer writings, I am convinced that the reader who considers the following points and then compares the original articles with the Berean presentation will agree that the Berean presentation is both selective and misrepresentative of original Christadelphian fellowship doctrine and practices. I submit to the reader the following points of Berean alteration in the pioneer writings: 1. The Berean book named The Doctrine of Fellowship (DOF) would more appropriately be named The Doctrine of Disfellowship because this is what the book myopically focuses on. The Scriptures emphasize the positive things we should do in relation to our brethren. The Berean book emphasizes the negative. For example, at least 17 times the apostolic command to "receive not" is quoted or referred to in The DOF. But not once in the near 100 pages does the book refer to the apostolic words "We therefore ought to receive such". Another example: the Commandments of Christ are quoted at the end of the book... but only those which are used to justify separation! Brother Roberts is quoted in The Doctrine of Fellowship as saying: "When this ground is clearly taken, there will be more readiness to insist upon the whole Truth as the basis of fellowship with professed believers." The DOF quotation ends there. Here is what The DOF book did not reprint: "When this ground is clearly taken, there will be more readiness to insist upon the whole truth as the basis of fellowship with professed believers in the gospel of Christ, and less 5 disinclination to take the logical issue and all its responsibilities, as to the hopeless position of all who are seeking the favour of God in any other way than the way of His own appointment. But in all things there is a possibility of going to extremes—ugly and hurtful extremes, and this matter is no exception—great and glorious though it is. We have to 'contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints;' but we may possibly do this to the destruction of the very things we are contending for." 2. It is recognized by this compiler that some of the articles needed to be excerpted to focus the reader’s attention. However, paragraphs, sentences and qualifying words were deleted or altered in the midst of the Berean excerpts. a. For example, brother Roberts is made to say “A loose fellowship is convenient” (The Berean, 1953, p. 298; The Doctrine of Fellowship, p. 70) when in fact he said “A loose basis of fellowship is convenient” (The Christadelphian, 1887, p. 470). b. Extracts from an article justifying separation from those holding the non-resurrectional responsibility error are published in the Berean presentation, but the same article has a section in it in which bro. Roberts speaks of a “Plea for Uncalled-For Disunion”. All that material was deleted from the Berean presentation. This is another example where the Berean presentation focuses on withdrawal and separation rather than on fellowship and attempting to avoid “excesses” (RR) and “extremes” (RR). 3. In the re-editing process word capitalization was frequently changed. This might seem unimportant and one Berean claimed this was done “out of reverence for the Word”, but this simple alteration can change the entire meaning of a word or excerpt! For example, the word ‘ecclesia’ was often changed to ‘Ecclesia’ mid-sentence. The capitalized word changes what would be normally understood as a local Christadelphian ecclesia into the idea of The One Christ Body. The pioneer brethren often spoke of ecclesial issues, not Ecclesial issues. The Berean presentation replaces the local ecclesia with the union of ecclesias, totally changing the original intent. Another example: “basis of fellowship” was changed to “Basis of Fellowship”, as if some standardized basis were spoken of (it was not). These changes do not reflect a “reverence for the Word”, but rather, editing which has altered the true Christadelphian doctrine of fellowship to reflect Berean changes in doctrine. 4. Titles were almost always changed. In some cases this is very understandable, but in other cases it is not. For roughly every 10 articles in the Berean presentation, 9 have had their original titles changed. And here is the real point: the new titles often reflect the Berean focus on justifying their practice of not fellowshipping rather than fellowshipping. For example: Epistles To Corinth Do Not Fellowship and Forbearance became Justify Fellowship of Error became the Withdrawal, and When From Such Withdraw Thyself unconditional was retitled, rewritten, Ecclesial Fellowship The Doctrine of Fellowship and presented as an 1892 “HISTORIC DEFENSE” of… Intelligence (Ecclesial Notes) Became Distance and Fellowship A complete table of the Berean title changes is found beginning on page 19. I would ask the reader to note the last title change in the table above, “Distance and Fellowship”. In this case brother Roberts addresses a reluctance on the part of some brethren to explicitly define their basis of fellowship unless they received a visit and interviewed the visitor. Notice in the following quote that, in relation to Christadelphian ecclesias, bro. Roberts uses the terms ‘ecclesia’ and ‘body’ as equivalents. He wrote, 6 “An ecclesia that is not able to say whether they are in fellowship with such, but must wait for individual applications, is evidently in such a doubtful relation to the question as to prevent confidence on the part of men of straight purpose. Men do not require to come within so many yards of each other to know whether they are friends. Friendship of this circumscribed order would be a relapse to barbarism. And so a body of men professing to receive the truth in its uncompromised fulness and integrity, do not require to pay or receive visits from another body or members of it, (who are in a doubtful attitude) to say whether they are or are not in fellowship with it. A little reflection on this ought to clear honest men of all difficulty in defining their position—a process which had become necessary before the apostle John closed his eyes.” The Berean misrepresentation of this quote is found in their new title “Distance and Fellowship”. Some Bereans represent this as teaching that you are in fellowship with everyone in your ecclesial union whether you receive from, or pay a visit to, those ecclesias. However, as this book demonstrates, no such unions existed in bro. Roberts’ day. While the article certainly addresses ‘distance and fellowship’, the point of the article is lost under the altered Berean title: that brethren separated by distance do not require seeing one another face to face to determine if they have fellowship or not. Defining their individual basis of fellowship will by the very act determine if they have fellowship one with the other. 5. There are at least 5 misattributions and one partial misattribution in the Berean presentation. Readers should notice the coincidence that all the misattributions go one way: the articles that said, or were edited to say, what the Berean editors liked, all appear under bylines of “Brother John Thomas” and “Brother Robert Roberts”. Original Title / Actual Author Berean Title / Misattribution So-Called “Heresy-Hunting” A Duty “Heresy Hunting” A Duty J. J. Andrew Robert Roberts Ecclesial Fellowship The Doctrine of Fellowship Frank G. Jannaway Robert Roberts A True Christadelphian Ecclesia The True Christadelphian Ecclesia Lemuel Edwards Robert Roberts Fellowship / Albert Anderson Fellowship / John Thomas A Letter / Signed by Separated Brethren J.J. Powell, J.E.Walker and R. Roberts Robert Roberts “on behalf of the [Birmingham] meeting” Judging and Not Judging / A Macdougall Notes Fellowship / Robert Roberts Robert Roberts One Berean, attempting to explain away two of the misattributions wrote, “[those writings] reveal the Truth as taught by Brother Thomas” and therefore, “it is quite understandable how such an innocent mistake could be made”. However, one of the alterations he was speaking of was the article by bro. Albert Anderson, and that article did not represent bro. Thomas’ fellowship practice in 1847! Please notice in the above table the final misattribution. This was a case where a Berean editor took one sentence from an article in The Christadelphian, November 1885, p. 498, written by bro. A Macdougall, and pasted it on top of an altered quote by bro. Roberts from two years later (1887)! The “new” quote was published in The Berean magazine, 1953, p. 298 and The Doctrine of Fellowship, p. 70 as if the quote actually came from bro. Roberts. It never did. 7 This is only a summary of the alterations made to the pioneer works. What you will find is that quotations from The Christadelphian magazine were cut-and-pasted together into quotes the pioneers never said. You will find articles concerning fellowship that were completely rewritten by a Berean editor. It’s amazing to me that these counterfeit quotations went unchallenged by anyone in the Berean community for 60 years. Those interested in seeing how extensive some of the alterations have been 8 should look at a web page which documents http://www.genusa.com/fellowship/BereanAlterations.html some of the Berean alterations: Historical Reality vs. Berean Claims I would like to address one other issue in regards to the topic of ecclesial unions, that is to say, interecclesial organization or structure beyond the local ecclesia – whatever form it takes: 1. ‘Conferences’ 2. Ecclesial unions 3. Inter-ecclesial meetings for the purpose of “joint action” 4. Inter-ecclesial documents that either bind member ecclesias together, or exclude nonparticipating ecclesias Brother Thomas and brother Roberts were both very careful to maintain that ecclesias should follow the Biblical model and remain independent and autonomous. And this is what we see in the pages of The Christadelphian. When a serious error was introduced into the community it might take years for ecclesias to report in the Intelligence section of The Christadelphian that their ecclesia had passed a resolution against the error. In many cases ecclesias never made these reports because the error was never their local problem. If the error was serious enough brother Roberts indicated that due to the serious nature of the error, he would only print ecclesial news from those ecclesias which were in agreement with the policies of his private endeavor The Christadelphian magazine. Brother Roberts was very clear that The Christadelphian was his private endeavor and not the mouthpiece of his ecclesia, other ecclesias, or a Fellowship Institution. Brother C. C. Walker maintained this position (see the notes on pages 47 and 48). If individuals did not like his policy, they were free to unsubscribe and/or start their own magazine based on their own policies. Some took up their liberty and did just that. Bereans have been asked to provide any precedents in the pioneer fellowship actions which would justify the Berean division. Invariably I have received two answers: Dowieism and the partial-inspiration issue. Readers will notice that neither bro. Thomas, bro. Roberts, or any Christadelphian, called for the creation of an ecclesial union to deal with George Dowie. The reason was simple: there was no union of ecclesias to start with, and both bro. Thomas and bro. Roberts saw any union as a step towards the apostasy. What happened was that brethren, such as brother Thomas, who became aware of the false doctrines of Mr. Dowie and his associates, warned that Mr. Dowie’s church held doctrines subversive of the truth. Individual ecclesias, were given time to investigate and act. They could continue to associate and fellowship with Dowie’s church, but ultimately if they refused to act, fellowship from Christadelphian ecclesias who would maintain the truth would withhold fellowship from those who were unwilling to do the same. This very effectively isolated both Dowie’s church and any ‘ecclesias’ which were unwilling to uphold the truth. Ecclesias individually acted in this case. The same thing was done in relation to Edward Turney’s error of clean-flesh. This is demonstrable by looking at the Ecclesial Intelligence section of The Christadelphian. When it comes to the partial-inspiration issue, some Bereans will quote the following: “The community as a community has become corrupt. We propose to cease our connection with it on this account. We will go out in the name of allegiance to the Bible as God’s wholly-inspired and infallible word.” (The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 303) This is all well and good except that the “community” referred to was a single ecclesia, the Birmingham ecclesia! You will find this quote comes from an article titled “The End of the Inspiration Controversy in Birmingham” (page 147) and you will see that the Birmingham “body”, “community” or “ecclesia” dissolved and a majority reconstituted itself on a modified basis of fellowship which excluded the belief in a partially inspired Bible. What some Bereans do is project these words onto a worldwide 9 basis, but this is certainly not what occurred in 1885. In fact you will find that, again, it took many years for some ecclesias to pass resolutions dealing with that particular issue. You can see two examples of this, one from 1890 and one from 1891, regarding this starting on page 72. Many ecclesias passed no resolution and took no action for partial-inspiration was not a local problem they faced. And for the record, this was not the first time the Birmingham ecclesia had dissolved itself due to false doctrine. It had dissolved itself on October 30th, 18731 in reaction to the clean-flesh teachings of Edward Turney. Again, this was an independent action of a single ecclesia: “Dissolving the Birmingham Christadelphian body in a legal sense, by abrogating all the rules and appointments that gave it a corporate existence in the eye of the law, and held its members in corporate association together; of course, not touching the fellowship created by the truth, which is not subject to human legislation.” Birmingham made NO demands that other ecclesias take the same action of dissolution and indeed, I have found no record that any other ecclesia did. And again as in the former case, it took months to years for others to take action, and in most cases, most ecclesias made no resolutions and took no action for the problem of clean-flesh was not a local problem for them. You will also find that brother Thomas used the term “community” to refer to a single ecclesia in the article ‘The Apostles’ Fellowship’ on page 27. He used the term “a body” the same way in this article. Bereans have represented these words as meaning ecclesial unions but the pioneer writings contradict this misrepresentation. Brother Roberts did as well, as exemplified in The Ecclesial Guide, #1 (page 38). Just as some Bereans have misquoted, altered, and misattributed early Christadelphian writings, they have misrepresented the events which occurred during the 1860-1923 era. I do not believe it is attributable to anything other than misguided zeal and the bad fruit which was sown some 58 years ago when most of the alterations to the pioneer works first began to appear – immediately after the Berean Fellowship experienced a large exodus into what had developed into the Central Fellowship. There was nothing prohibiting, and indeed, early Christadelphian ecclesias could cooperate in addressing errors, but when ecclesias started forming exclusive confederations, societies or associations, when they took a natural and convenient route rather than a Scriptural route, and began to unionize, the Christadelphian movement went astray and adopted a practice of the Great Apostasy. Today we reap the bad fruits of these misguided actions and the world is filled with ecclesias and brethren who share the truth but are prevented, by this apostate system of ecclesial unions, from sharing the memorial emblems. The body of Christ has been divided by men, not Christ and the Apostles. Berean retelling of Christadelphian history is filled with other fictions. The Berean movement is represented by its supporters as a “movement for the purity of the truth” when in fact The Berean magazine and its supporters were unwittingly publishing the clean-flesh teachings of Harry Fry, that Gogue and the King of the North were not one and the same, that jury duty was “a privilege” and other false ideas. The Berean, 1923, p. 198 1 See The Christadelphian, 1873, p. 565 and The Christadelphian, 1874, p. 240 10 The Berean, 1925, p. 168 From Exemption 11 Frank Jannaway, the leading figure in the so-called “movement for the purity of the truth” stated that Christadelphians, that is brethren of Jesus Christ were “men of the same class and grade” as those “in [the British] military service”. “The Secretary of State”, notes Frank Jannaway on the side of the letter, “has written me expressing his appreciation of the tone of this letter”. 12 Summary of Principles 1. Apostolic and early Christadelphian ecclesias (circa 1850 – 1940) were founded as absolutely independent self-governing organizations. a. The Scriptures give not the slightest hint of the early ecclesias having a common statement of faith. This would have provided a defined standard for their basis of fellowship. The early Christadelphian ecclesias did not have a common statement of faith either and the author of The Ecclesial Guide rejected a proposal to develop one. b. The Scriptures give not the slightest hint of the early ecclesias having any kind of common government. They received Apostolic guidance and commands, and these of course were shared, and they are recorded for us in the Scriptures. Likewise, the early Christadelphian ecclesias held independent rule as a principle “sacredly upheld” (bro. Roberts). I entreat advocates of ecclesial union to ponder the words of the brother who did so much to give organization and order to the early Christadelphian ecclesias: “sacredly upheld”. c. The Apostolic ecclesias were individually responsible for determining who they would have fellowship with and who they would not have fellowship with. That Christadelphians practiced fellowship this same way, to start with, is demonstrated in the section “Ecclesial Notices and Statements Demonstrating the Autonomy of Early Christadelphian Ecclesias, Their Bases of Fellowship and Fellowship Practices” starting on page 65. d. Determining who was “in fellowship” was not as simple a matter under the Apostolic and early Christadelphian arrangement, as it is today in any of the unionized Fellowships. It was not just a matter of which ecclesial union or “membership card” you carried, but rather, the measure was the genuine and only standard set forth in Scripture: faithful continuance in apostolic doctrine and practice. The Scriptural standard exercised by early Christadelphians is clearly demonstrated in the terms of the Birmingham Constitution clauses 2 and 3 (page 24) though not practiced in its original intent and purity since Christadelphians began accepting ecclesial unions. e. Both the Apostolic ecclesias and Christadelphian ecclesias have gone through a similar process of apostasy, though Christadelphian ecclesias have not completed the journey. Both developed interecclesial unions, or a worldwide union of ecclesias/churches. In Christendom this union became known as The Church. Today, we have Central, Unamended, Berean, Pioneer-Maranatha and some 30 to 50 other offshoots each claiming to uphold the One Faith but wise enough, so far, not to claim the title of “The Church” though some have not been wise enough to refrain from intimating that they were the faithful Ecclesia as opposed to other unions! f. From my research, the seeds of ecclesial union can be seen in only a few notes from correspondents to The Christadelphian starting circa 1880’s. The larger the schisms were, the greater the instinctive push for unionization. But attempts to standardize the basis of fellowship and to unionize were resisted by bro. Roberts (see page 60 and also the section Ecclesial Independence starting on page 35). g. Brethren started meeting at the Temperance Hall in 1866, but the term “Temperance Hall Fellowship” does not appear in The Christadelphian until 53 years later in 1919 and well after many of the early Christadelphians had fallen asleep! Even the name Christadelphian was created, not for fellowship purposes, but as a way to designate the brethren who refused to participate in war (The Christadelphian, 1865, p. 105). Another name was also used, “Antipas”. This name was used in witnessing against Christendom, and again, not for the purposes of ecclesial union (See The Christadelphian, 1866, p. 52). h. While ecclesial unions offer convenience, they also “lay the foundations” of a powerful apostasy that ultimately extinguishes the truth. The added efforts required to maintain the Apostolic method are more than offset by the fact that brethren who are faithful in observing apostolic doctrine and practice have no man-made and unscriptural barriers which prevent physical fellowship and cooperation. The mortal Body of Christ is physically divided by the apostate 13 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. ecclesiastical organization whereas there are no such divisions or barriers where the Apostolic system is practiced. Can you imagine the Apostles promoting a system that divided brethren who were sound in the faith and the practice thereof? Why do some brethren contend they did? Brethren are very unwise and shortsighted to argue that corruption in Christadelphia necessitates ecclesial unions. Such an argument suggests either a very poor familiarity with the Scriptural record of problems in the Apostolic ecclesias, or a willingness to turn a blind eye to the Biblical record that was given for our instruction. There have always been misguided brethren and fellow-laborers who have contended for loose fellowship practices and low standards of conduct. It is a “feature” that comes with fleshly instincts and a lack of Scriptural instruction. The Corinthians exhibited this misguided behavior until instructed in the way of God more perfectly. The Apostolic solution was not to establish a union of purified ecclesias but to instruct the erring brethren, and then, to accept nothing less than repentance. If this was the Apostolic standard, it should be our standard also. There are clear Scriptural commands regarding those who manifest intransigence in false doctrine or ungodly behavior. For example: Romans 16:17; 1st Corinthians 5:11; Titus 3:10; 2nd John 10. These are Apostolic commands and must be observed though observed with care for the Scriptures make it clear that the goal is repentance and restoration, to the glory of God, where possible (Galatians 6:1; James 5:19; Matthew 18:12; Luke 15:24; Jude 22). Circumcision is the very last but sometimes necessary remedy. “Separatist” Fellowships place special emphasis on one principle, withdrawal, and generally deemphasize other principles which are given far more attention in the Scriptures: the attitude exhibited in washing one another’s feet (John 13:14; 1 Tim. 5:10), self-sacrifice (Eph. 5:2; Heb 13:16), support of the weak (1st Cor. 8:11-12, 9:22; 2nd Cor. 11:29; 1st Thes. 5:14), patience (2 Pet. 1:6), bearing one another’s burdens &c. These Scriptural principles are not contradictory unless we fixate on a single principle, such as withdrawal. Withdrawal is a Scriptural principle, but this never negates the principle of embracing brethren who are sound in faith and practice – except when separatist Fellowship practices are engaged in. Fellowship means different things and occurs on different levels. a. There is a natural fellowship (1 Cor. 10:20; Ephesians 5:11) and a spiritual fellowship (Acts 2:42; 1 John 1:3, 7). As discussed below, breaking bread is one form of fellowship, but it may only be earthly, and not spiritual. The two should not be confused though they often are by brethren who advocate ecclesial unions. Ecclesial unions tend to develop “fictitious importances” where a union of ecclesias, or the fellowship practiced by that union, is treated as if it were the One Ecclesia. b. Fellowship can mean participation with, sharing with, and an association with something or someone. c. We must be responsible for what we participate in, share in or associate with, but we become accountable when we fellowship with knowledge or complicity (1 Ti 5:22; 2nd John 11). Brother Thomas never taught that the breaking of bread automatically results in “having fellowship” with the true body of Christ a.k.a. “the apostle’s fellowship”. For example, From this it is evident that the distinction existed in John’s day, between “real christians” and “christians.” The name christian comprehended all the adherents of Balaam and Jezebel, whether Ebionites, Gnostics, or by whatever name or denomination of heresy they might be known. The “real christians” had no fellowship with such; though among them, as in Pergamos, the poison of the serpent might be detected. The ecclesia and “the synagogue of the Satan” were institutions as distinct as they are now; for in the nineteenth century a true believer of the gospel of the kingdom is against all who have not obeyed the same; yet a congregation of “real christians” may have in it some who are not true, as at Pergamos; these will sooner or later show themselves, for their sympathies are 14 fleshly, and they become impatient of principles which they regard as “harsh, uncharitable, and severe.” (Eureka, vol 1, p. 270) Please notice that brother Thomas states, the real christians “had no fellowship with such” “though among them” and that an ecclesia “may have in it some who are not true”. In The Doctrine of Fellowship, p. 51, 2nd ed., bro. Jim Phillips quotes Eureka (as above) and then comments, “he is referring to those false brethren who have not yet manifested themselves as false”. Just so! Bro. Phillips makes the point very well. The false brethren were not in fellowship with the Apostles (see page 27). The true brethren were. Yet they broke bread together because the false brethren had “not yet manifested themselves as false”. “The ‘real christians’ had no fellowship with such; though among them“. This is why brother Thomas insisted “My fellowship is with the apostles; they had many brethren who were bewitched and disgraced the truth” (page 99). Also see bro. Roberts’ comments on Judas and Fellowship on page 115. 8. When false brethren manifest themselves, we have Apostolically provided means by which to address the problem. Imposing the apostasy’s organization onto ecclesias is a short-sighted ‘solution’ with terribly negative consequences. 9. Even those who initiated what has become known as the Berean movement were wise enough to know ecclesial unions were unscriptural. Look at The Berean editor’s response to this ecclesial report: The Berean, 1928, p. 227 15 Again, in 1934 the co-editor of The Berean magazine denied the existence of a Berean Fellowship: C.F. Ford, Co-Editor, The Berean Magazine, April 1934, p. 131 Sadly those voices have long since been silenced by a newer, uninformed generation, as ecclesial unions, a mark of the apostasy, are now widely accepted. If the Berean Fellowship Constitutes The True Ecclesia… No Fellowship is without doctrinal problems. Any brother or sister striving to maintain the truth in a mortal ecclesia, much less a mortal union of ecclesias, will know that problems exist (Acts 20:30). The effect of the Berean alterations to early Christadelphian expositions shift those expositions towards justifying division – with an underlying false assumption that ecclesial unions are Scriptural. Of course, this was the intent: to remind brethren that their (non-Berean) Fellowship “holds” error, and to let them know that the Berean community stands ready to welcome them. But a thoughtful person would realize that the Bereans are mortal also, and therefore the Berean Fellowship ‘harbors error’, and in this case, specifically on the doctrine of fellowship. Additionally, their Restatement document with its history of unnoted alterations, and historical ignorance of the document's original purpose, has placed the Berean Fellowship in a position where the Berean leadership cannot clearly define what a first principle of the Gospel is. But you need not take my word for it. If the Berean community constitutes the true ecclesia, as its literature claims, then the Apocalyptic pictures painted in Revelation 2 & 3 of the Berean ecclesias, painted by the Lord Jesus Christ, looks like ecclesias in any other Fellowship, including Central and the Unamended. This is not my personal judgment but the judgment of the Lord concerning the state of the ecclesial world prior to his return. “Nevertheless, when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?” (Lk. 18:8). This is not an endorsement of the Berean house, or any other. 16 Additional Material in this Publication To further demonstrate that the Berean presentation of the doctrine of fellowship has not only been altered, but is also very selective, there are articles of a significant nature on the doctrine and practice of fellowship which are included in this compilation. Materials of historical importance from bro. John Thomas, bro. Robert Roberts, and bro. C. C. Walker have been added to this compilation, and marked with a in the title and the table of contents. Readers are asked to carefully note the articles which appeared in The Christadelphian from 1900 to 1912. The statements made during that time period by the editor were still more than 10 years prior to the initial separation of 1923 and 22 years prior to the editor of The Berean magazine stating, “there is no Berean fellowship” (The Berean, 1934, p. 131). Brethren of those days understood what brother Walker meant in those articles, even if some of our contemporaries refuse to acknowledge the significance of his testimony. There are additional articles from 1919 to 1924 which demonstrate a continued resistance to unionization and centralization of any kind. I’ve placed this material in chronological order starting on page 45. The material from bro. Walker constitutes an important eyewitness with some important details of how ecclesias operated immediately after, and for years following, the death of brother Roberts. There are two sections from the Berean book The Doctrine of Fellowship I have not fully duplicated. These involve the ecclesial actions in 1898. A large number of short quotes were assembled and interspersed with comments. I do not see value in fully duplicating those two sections. If readers desire information on that topic they might, with care, refer to The Doctrine of Fellowship. Brothers and sisters of conscience will not accept the status quo. The Berean doctrine of fellowship is not the Scriptural or pioneer doctrine of fellowship. It has become the status quo, a cancer infecting the entire Christadelphian community in one form or another through the false doctrine of a man-made man-regulated worldwide Fellowship; a worldwide Ecclesiastical Union or Association a.k.a. a Universal Church. Stephen Genusa Spring 2009 2 Edition July 2013 3rd Edition April 2015 nd 17 18 Cross References to the Berean Presentation Original Title Title from The Doctrine of Fellowship The Nature and Conditions of Fellowship in the Truth Fellowship Its Nature and Conditions None Bidding God-Speed Published Intelligence (Ecclesial Notes) Distance and Fellowship Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia–No. 289 Inward Peace Through Outward Turmoil A True Christadelphian Ecclesia The True Christadelphian Ecclesia The Christadelphian Notes Cross Currents in Ecclesial Waters Our Duty Towards Error and Errorists Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia, No. 79 Intelligence Answers to Correspondents Fellowship and Division Fellowship Union and Unity 1977 p. 299; 1981 p. 125; 1999 p. 91 1953 p. 368; 1979 p. 156; 1984 p. 162; 2002 p. 166; 2005 p. 123 1956 p. 136; 1974 p. 235; 1976 p. 15; 1989 p. 81; 1993 p. 9; 1999 p. 404 1979 p. 41; 2001 p. 138; 2002 p. 409 1978 p. 345 1970 p. 227; 1987 p. 336; 2001 p. 212; 2002 p. 355 1953 p. 162; 1973 p. 14; 2000 p. 247 BEN: 2002 p. 110 1954 p. 60; 1988 p. 128; 1993 p. 314 1978 p. 373; 1978 p. 125; 2000 p. 264 1987 p. 225 Our Duty Towards Errorists 1961 p. 296 The Complete Truth Essential for Fellowship Controversies Offender and Offended Meditations–No. XXX Compromise With Error Fatal Answers to Correspondents Books, Pamphlets, MSS., &c., received during the Month. Division 1979 p. 155; 2002 p. 104 1979 p. 189 1978 p. 78; 1998 p. 60; 2001 p. 30; 2002 p. 68; 2003 p. 426 1962 p. 41 Publishing Error 1979 p. 415; 2003 p. 49 Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue, Birmingham, No. 49 From Birmingham to New York and Back Ecclesial Fellowship Whom I Love in the Truth TB: Receive Him Not Into the House Error and Its Treatment The Doctrine of Fellowship So-Called “Heresy-Hunting,” A Duty "Heresy Hunting" A Duty The Christadelphian There Shall Be Division Letter from Dr. Thomas Know No Man After The Flesh Our Great Sin Divider of the Flock 19 1976 p. 106; 1981 p. 329 1958 p. 378; 1975 p 374; 1995 p. 152 1961 p. 360; 2001 p. 96; 2002 p. 284 1962 p. 259 1950 p. 5; 1980 p. 369; 2001 p. 112 Original Title Title from The Doctrine of Fellowship Published The Christadelphian Principles of Fellowship— Withdrawal Not Judging, But Protection of Self and Truth 1981 p. 327 Separated Brethren 1981 p. 51 Persistent Error Contend Earnestly For the Faith TB: Fellowship The Truth as Expounded by Bro. Thomas A Finality If A Brother Sin Loose Fellowship TB: Fellowship 1980 p. 378; 2003 p. 405 1978 p. 128; 1995 p. 261 1980 p. 85; 1985 p. 12; 2001 p. 355; 2003 p. 405 Part Second; Chapter 1— The Gospel of the Kingdom in Relation to Israel and the Gentiles. The One True Gospel 1960 p. 355; 1971 p. 355 Answers to Correspondents Withdrawal Not Excommunication Answers to Correspondents Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia, No. 223 Fellowship and Withdrawal Letter from Dr. Thomas Neutrals Answers to Correspondents Why Did Jesus Tolerate Judas? Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia, No. 81 One Thing Only Can Separate Us From God Epistles To Corinth Do Not Justify Fellowship of Error 1976 p. 106; 1981, p. 330; 2002 p. 117 "Cry Aloud, and Spare Not! 1976 p. 121 Fellowship: Coercion or Freewill? 1980 p. 157; 2003 p. 262 Fellowship and "Tares" 1981 p. 48 “Revelation All Future” – A Heresy Judge, Judge Not, and Fellowship The Truth Concerning Christ's Offering For Himself First—Made A Matter of Fellowship in 1898 Strained Relations With Dr. Thomas, Chapter XXI 1981 p. 48 1977 p. 336 1978 p. 423; 1984 p. 169 "Charity" or Unfaithfulness? 1952 p. 300; 1980 p. 55 To Sardis Not Printed in Berean The End of the Inspiration Controversy in Birmingham Notes Tour in Scotland The Obedience of Christ and His Brethren Answers to Correspondents Intelligence Fellowship and Forbearance The Gospel and the Baptists of the Seventh Century Notes Chat With Correspondents, and Extracts From Some of Their Letters Intelligence Birmingham Miscellanies Intelligence Chapter XXI – Strained Relations With Dr. Thomas Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia, No. 194 To Sardis Brother Thomas' Work 20 1950 p. 83; 1983 p. 312 1981 p. 69; 1984 p. 374 1980 p. 161; 1995 p. 175; 2003 p. 297 1952 p. 363 1979 p. 79; 1986 p. 170; 2002 p. 369 1961 p. 200; 1988 p. 18; 1992 p. 351; 1995 p. 110; 1997 p. 320 1953 p. 176; 1971 p. 184; 1977 p. 167; 1978 p. 146 1965 p. 169; 1977 p. 47 1966, p. 105 Original Title Title from The Doctrine of Fellowship Published Answers to Correspondents N/A – this article consists of an amalgam of quotes N/A – this article consists of an amalgam of quotes Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia, No. 194 N/A – A sentence from an 1885 article by bro. A Macdougall pasted to a modified quote of bro. Roberts from 1887. Withdrawal, and When The Ecclesia of God Resurrectional Responsibility—Bro. Roberts' Fellowship Stand in 1898 Resurrectional Responsibility and Fellowship 1979 p. 156 1976 p. 212; 1981 p. 418; 1987 p. 81 Contentiousness Is Not Faithfulness 1980 p. 52 Fellowship 1953 p. 298 "From Such Withdraw Thyself" Answers to Correspondents Fellowship and Breaking of Bread 1995 p. 189 1978 p. 297; 1982 p. 136; 2004 p. 195 The Apocalypse on the Question of Fellowship The Apocalypse and Fellowship, November 1897 None Fellowship, Oct. 1891 The Sacrifice of Christ Fellowship and the Nature and Sacrifice of Christ Answers to Correspondents (The Apocalypse and the Obedience of Faith) Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue, No. 51 A Guide To The Formation and Conduct of Christadelphian Ecclesias 1975 p. 130 1953 p. 368; 1979 p. 156; 1984 p. 162; 2002 p. 166; 2005 p. 123 1978 p. 81; BEN 2007 p. 305 The Apocalypse and Fellowship, August 1872 1976 p. 98; 1991 p. 386 Union Without Unity 1979 p. 190 Fellowship Clause No. 16 — Statement of Faith Notes A Guide To The Formation and Conduct of Christadelphian Ecclesias No Peace Without Purity, Christadelphian 1892 Fellowship Clause No. 16 — Statement of Faith Progress and Fellowship N/A The Common Constitution The Commandments of Christ The Commandments of Christ Thoughts and Thoughts – No. 2 1980 p. 264 21 n/a 1955 p. 334; 1974 p. 195; 1998 p. 74 1994 p. 21 n/a 1980 p. 230; 1990 p. 428 The “Common Constitution” a 1980 innovation N/A 22 The Basis of Fellowship This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 1st John 1:5-7 23 The Birmingham Constitution #2, & #3 (Excerpt) 2.—That we accept and profess the doctrines and precepts of Christ, as taught in the apostolic writings, and defined (positively and negatively) in the annexed Statement of Faith and Epitome of the Commandments of Christ. 3.—That we recognise as brethren, and welcome to our fellowship, all who have been immersed (by whomsoever) after their acceptance of the same doctrines and precepts. Compiler’s Note Notice that the “doctrines and precepts of Christ” are defined both positively and negatively. They are defined positively in the section of the Statement of Faith titled “Truth To Be Received”. They are defined negatively in the section “Doctrines to Be Rejected”. Finally, notice that the Commandments of Christ, which are the precepts we are to walk by, are included as part of the basis of fellowship. A Guide To The Formation and Conduct of Christadelphian Ecclesias, #34 By bro. Robert Roberts (Excerpt) Basis of Fellowship Examination implies a recognised basis of fellowship; that is, a definition of the doctrines that are recognised as the truth. Examination would be objectless if there were no such definition recognised, whether written or understood. It is necessary to have the truth defined. It is not enough for an applicant to say he believes the Bible, or the testimony of the apostles. Multitudes would profess belief in this form who we know are ignorant or unbelieving of the truth, and, therefore, unqualified for union with the brethren of Christ. The question for applicants is, do they believe what the Scriptures teach? To test this, the teaching requires definition. This definition agreed to forms the basis of fellowship among believers, whether expressed in spoken or written words. The history of creeds, which have supplanted the Scriptures in past ages, naturally leads some to feel an objection to this basis in a written form, but it is obvious that there are advantages in connection with a written form that outweigh the sentimental repugnance inspired by ecclesiastical precedents. A mere understanding as to the definitions of truth to be received is apt to become dim and indefinite, and the way is open to the gradual setting in of corruption. So long as it is understood that the written definition is not an authority, but merely the written expression of our identical convictions, there is not only no disadvantage, but the reverse, in reducing the faith to a form that shuts the door against misunderstanding. Statement of Faith — Clause #16 XVI.—That the way to obtain this salvation is to believe the gospel they preached, and to take on the name and service of Christ, by being thereupon immersed in water, and continuing patiently in the 24 observance of all things he has commanded, none being recognised as his friends except those who do what he has commanded (Acts 13:48; 16:31; Mark 16:16; Romans 1:16; Acts 2:38,41; 10:47; 8:12; Galatians 3:27-29; Romans 6:3-5; 2:7; Matthew 28:20; John 15:14). Tour in Scotland By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1867, p. 269 (Excerpt) Nothing short of fidelity to the whole truth can be accepted as a safe policy. “The things concerning the kingdom of God,” and “those things that concern our Lord Jesus Christ,” in their scriptural amplitude must be the measure and standard of fellowship. Those who go for less than this must be left to themselves; in this they are not judged; they are only subjected to the action of another man’s conception of duty, and are left at perfect liberty to organize themselves on whatever they may conceive to be a scriptural basis. Notes (Nullifying Doctrine) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1892, p. 484 W. S.—The belief of the truth is not a sufficient basis of fellowship if it be allied with wrong-doing or nullifying doctrine. We are commanded to withdraw when that is the case, as you know, and from those who would countenance the wrong even if they would not themselves perpetrate it. You would recognise this in the case of drunkenness, or the denial that Jesus came in the flesh. There are various forms of wrong-doing and spiritual leaven. When your discernment is quickened, you will see that the doctrine of partial inspiration (or the toleration of it in fellowship) is in the category. The Bible Doctrine of Life The Christadelphian, 1866, p. 244 (Excerpt) Now, any man or woman, before he or she can be immersed into the Name of Jesus the Christ, must understand what immersion teaches to us in the present time, and what—which is of paramount importance—it points forward to, or typifies, in the future. Understanding this, then,—that is, “As many of us as were baptised into Jesus Christ were baptised into his death. Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life; for if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection, knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin” (Rom. 6:3–6.)—if we understand this, I say, we must hold unflinchingly and unequivocally that for anyone to be immersed without a correct knowledge of the doctrine taught in the ordinance itself, is merely to perform a ceremony of going under water, which comes as near the obedience which the gospel demands, as does the infant-sprinkling of our day. It will avail such an individual nothing, whatever he may learn or unlearn afterwards—for the command is to believe first, afterwards be baptised. God has left us in no doubt here; but His Word is plain, and absolute, and unconditional. We cannot escape from it: and in believing 25 it in ourselves, we must contend for it earnestly before all, and demand from those with whom we fellowship an unqualified agreement with us. Letter From Dr. Thomas By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1866, p. 206 (Excerpt) I hope that all things are rectified in a certain direction. It is a monstrous conceit that “the only discipline the Ecclesia can enforce in these times is against false doctrine, and not against immorality of conduct.” Such a rule as this, approved by any society of professors, would make it a fellowship of inquity. For myself, I would not belong to such a body of evil doers. The conceit is itself false doctrine, and, therefore, a matter of discipline. Such a dogma is symptomatic of immorality in the holder. An ecclesia should, at least, aim to keep itself free from the corruptions that are in the world through lust, though it may not succeed to the extent desired. To fellowship iniquity knowingly, and without rebuke, makes us partakers in the guilt. The Doctrine of Judgment and Validity of Immersion By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1874, p. 234 (Excerpt) D.P.—No baptism is valid except the baptism of a believer. And his belief must extend to the whole testimony concerning Christ. The first of these assertions is proved by the association of baptism with belief in the original commission of Christ to the apostles and in their uniform practice of baptising believers only, when they went out on their work. The second is shown by common sense and the reimmersion of the twelve Ephesian believers (Acts 19:5) whose faith at their first baptism was limited to John’s preaching. The testimony for Christ, set forth in the gospel, includes the declaration that he is the appointed judge of the living and the dead (Acts 10:42), and this declaration is shown by the testimony as a whole (Luke 19:15) to mean that Christ at his appearing, convokes the responsible who are alive, and the responsible who have lived and died, and whom he recalls from their graves for the purpose, to “give to every man in body according to that which he hath done—good or bad” (2 Cor. 5:10)—eternal life to those who have sought it by a patient continuance in well-doing (Rom. 2:7, 13), and shame suffering and corruption to those who have been contentious and flesh-servers.—(Gal. 6:8; Rom. 2:8; Dan. 12:2.) Now any man denying the simultaneous arraignment of good and bad at the appearing of Christ, denies the judgment that is taught in the Scriptures, and, therefore, denies one of the elements of the testimony concerning Christ in the gospel, and to that extent, he is unready for the act of baptism which is prescribed for those only who believe the gospel in its entirety. And if in that state, he is immersed, and comes afterwards to see the truth, no doubt his desire to place the validity of so grave an act beyond question, would prompt him to imitate the example of the Ephesian twelve, and be baptised again. If he do not come to see the truth of the matter, the responsibility of his position must lie with himself. He cannot be surprised if the friends of the whole truth feel themselves compelled to stand apart from the fellowship thereof. (Accept this in lieu of a letter for which the time fails.) 26 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. Acts 2:42 The Apostles’ Fellowship By bro. John Thomas The Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1851, p. 58-59 (Excerpt) To have fellowship with the Father and his Son Jesus Christ, men must have fellowship with the Apostles. This is accomplished only by believing and doing the truth promulgated by them. This is styled "walking in the light as God is in the light, by which we have fellowship one with another" (1 John 1:3, 6, 7). A man might be in approved fellowship with all "Christendom," papal and protestant, church and dissenters, and yet have no fellowship with God; "for if we say we have fellowship with him, and walk in the darkness (ignorance) we lie, and do not the truth." Hence Papalism, and Protestantism are a great lie; mere antagonist evils claiming fellowship with God, while they are mantled in the darkness of human tradition, and pervert and persecute the truth." It is the duty, therefore, of all who would embrace the Christianity of the Bible to lay hold of the things we have already indicated, to separate themselves from all papal and protestant sects [for they are but the aggregations of all worldliness, and fast asleep], and either to maintain their own individuality, or, if sufficiently numerous, associate themselves together as A COMMUNITY OF WITNESSES "who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev. 12:11-17). Such an association would be entitled to the scriptural appellation of "THE LAMB'S WIFE," Which is called upon to prepare herself for the approaching consummation (Rev. 16:15; 19:7-8). She must be sanctified and cleansed in the laver of the water by the word," that she may be "holy and without blemish." Such a body must "edify itself in love" (Eph. 4:16); and meet every Lord's day to commemorate his death and resurrection, to show forth the praises of God, to make their united requests known to Him through Jesus Christ, to proclaim His goodness to the children of men, and to convince them of the judgment which has come upon the world at last. Notice that in the above article brother Thomas uses “a community”, and “a body” as synonymous with a single ecclesia. Also, brother Thomas’ point concerning “the Apostle’s fellowship” is significant. A man may break bread but not have fellowship with the Apostles, Jesus Christ, the Father or his saints. This principle is also touched on in the section The State of the Mortal Ecclesias on page 75. Intelligence (Ecclesial Notes) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 423-424 We direct attention to the first article in this number of the Christadelphian. It deals with a subject on which a clear and Scriptural understanding is essential to ecclesial peace. As a brother there remarks, very lax ideas with respect to it are prevalent among those who have recently submitted to the truth— 27 say within the last ten years—such as have not known the early struggle for purity in the basis of fellowship. Even among some of those of whom a more advanced spiritual understanding might have been expected, astonishing sentiments are entertained, to the effect that error of any kind is not only not to be objected to in fellowship, but rather encouraged as a useful counterfoil and provocative of truth, and that the only thing justifying separation is immorality of conduct! This would be a very convenient doctrine to hold; but it is impossible for anyone in harmony with the apostolic writings to receive it. The truth is the root of ecclesial existence; and the whole spirit of apostolic precept is to be jealous of any departure from it, and to contend for it earnestly against the corruptions of all who creep in unawares, to the extent of turning away from the corrupters if they cannot be won over to the right way. The effort to restore fellowship in Birmingham has not yet succeeded. There is hope, it may. All depends upon whether the New Street brethren finally consent to make the doctrine of complete inspiration a first principle in their midst. If they do, we may work together as two separate bodies in harmony. If not, we must wait as we are. An unfortunate impression prevails to the effect that the question is an affair of personal emulation and not of principle. Let reasonable men among them discard this surmise (which is absolutely unfounded as regards the Editor of the Christadelphian), and there will be no difficulty. If they hold to it, they are victimised by a delusion that will not be to their honour in the day of account. Of course, we do not insinuate that it will be a knowing victimisation on their part: but that will not alter the fact. We hope all may yet be well. Historical Remembrances; or, Satan Rebuked By bro. John Thomas The Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1859, p. 84 (Excerpt) As to fellowship, we fellowship all who can prove by the word that they have believed and obeyed the gospel of the kingdom prophesied of by Moses and the prophets, and preached by Jesus and the apostles; but as President Campbell and the Arcadian brothers, Joseph and Nathaniel, cannot work out the demonstration, we cannot admit that they are anything more than a theoretical improvement upon Millerism. The Nature and Conditions of Fellowship in the Truth By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 385-389 The truth is professedly and confessedly a “narrow” thing. Jesus declares this in saying “Strait is the gate and narrow is the way that leadeth unto life.” This “way” he afterwards speaks of as “the truth,” saying, “Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free;” and also, “every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.” The narrowness of the truth is one of the obstacles to its general adoption. People do not like to be fettered either in doctrine or practice. It is also one of the causes of the active tendency to corruption which has manifested itself among those embracing the truth from the very day it was apostolically established at Jerusalem. It is inconvenient to be under restrictions in our dealings with fellow men in the truth or out of it. If it were a question of choice, we should all prefer absolute freedom. But no one recognising Christ as the supreme teacher can think of freedom in the matter. If we make freedom our rule, we can only have the freedom of those who set Christ aside altogether, saying in the words of the wicked “Our tongues are our own: who is Lord over us.” None who truly know Christ would desire this 28 freedom. All who sincerely accept Christ will recognise his law as paramount, however irksomely it may work in some of its present relations. It is one of the narrownesses of the truth that it demands of those who receive it that they “contend earnestly for it,” even if an angel from heaven oppose it or corrupt it (Jude 3; Gal. 1:8–9), and that they maintain it intact and unsullied among themselves as the basis and association among those who profess it, refusing to walk with a brother who either disobeys its precepts (2 Thes. 3:14; Rom. 16:17), or refuses consent to its teachings in vital matters (2 Jno. 10; 1 Tim. 6:3–5). This policy is so contrary to natural friendliness that it is easy to drift away from it, and to invent theories that will relieve us from its unpleasant obligations. The controversy on inspiration has forced the re-consideration of this question upon us. We say reconsideration: for it was considered and debated in the beginnings of things connected with the truth in this generation, and satisfactorily disposed of for a time. The principal cause of our trouble in the present situation has been the divergence of view that has prevailed at the bottom on this fundamental question. Many who have allowed the entirely inspired character of the Scriptures, have not been able to see the necessity for insisting upon that truth in our basis of fellowship. They have been inclined to leave it as “an open question.” This is the result of a dim or faulty perception of the apostolic doctrine of fellowship (a common sense doctrine) which requires agreement on fundamentals as the first condition of walking together, or co-operating, associating, or fellowshipping together in the prosecution of the objects of the truth. As a brother writing on the question says: “There is prevalent at the present time a lamentable looseness in regard to what must constitute the basis of fellowship. It arises partly from ignorance and partly from an over anxiety to increase numbers, and keep together divergent elements. This must inevitably result in serious trouble or general declension. . . The truth’s interest is at stake, and no doubt much depends upon our action, as to whether it is yet to be maintained in its purity and simplicity, or lapse into laodiceanism. The crisis is, doubtless, the most acute that has taken place since it was brought to light in these latter days. It has been brewing for past years. You were reluctant to believe it, and laboured to stave it off. A too long course of loose discipline and slackness in dealing with wrong principles in doctrine and practice has, no doubt, intensified the evil and made it all the more bitter, and grievous and hard to bear. I am persuaded that good will result in the case of those many or few who will outride the storm by keeping a firm grasp of the anchor of the soul, by coming out of this ocean of suffering as gold tried in the fire.” With a view to the thorough ventilation and effectual exhibition of the Scriptural principles of fellowship, we append a double series of propositions in which there is some attempt to formulate them in their bearing upon the question which has been troubling the ecclesias. We should be pleased to receive and publish enlightened criticisms that may be offered thereon; or any other capable endeavour to amplify or illustrate Scriptural principles in the same direction. The First Series I. “Fellowship with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ” consists in walking in the light, as God is in the light. II. “Fellowship one with another,” depends entirely upon our conformity to this first and necessary principle of all fellowship, which John so emphatically lays down in 1 Jno. 1:6, 7. III. “Light” is a figure of speech—a metaphor for divine wisdom, true knowledge, and accurate understanding. IV. God is the fountain-head of these incomparable powers. Hence “God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.” 29 V. His light is manifested to us in three ways—first, in Christ; second, in the Scriptures; and third, in His saints. VI. In Christ:—“I am come a light into the world, that whosever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.” In the Scriptures:—“Thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path” (Psalm 119:105). In His Saints:—“For ye were sometimes in darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord; walk as Children of light,” (Eph. 5:8). VII. These points being hereby established, they constitute a chain connecting God and man, not one link of which can be removed, or in any respect impaired without endangering the whole sequence and breaking the harmony of the divine relations to us individually. Take away Christ and you destroy all possibility of fellowship with God. Tamper with that Bible which He approved, and you equally render divine recognition of you hopeless, while you remove the only means in visible existence among men which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among them who are sanctified; you destroy the foundation of the righteous, and dissolve in so doing the household of Christ. VIII. “Walking in the light,” therefore, means “believing ALL things that are written in the law and the prophets,” as Paul affirmed he did (Acts 24:14), as well as the subsequent writings in the New Testament: exercising hope towards God as embodied in “Christ our hope,” and following “righteousness, faith, love, peace with those that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.” IX. Without the patient and faithful observance of these things, fellowship with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ is impossible, and in consequence fellowship one with another is likewise impracticable. Again Is it not a commandment of God that we should receive His word—His oracles—the Scriptures—as supreme? Does not Christ enforce it in his “Search the Scriptures” (John 5:39) and elsewhere? Does not Paul teach it in many ways, in regard to both the Old Testament and the New? Admitting this unavoidable conclusion and reading it in the light which 1 John 2:3, &c., throws upon the conditions of true fellowship, namely, “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.” “He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also to walk so in as he walked.” Must we notexact Christ’s estimate of the Old Testament, and Paul’s of both the Old Testament and his own writings, as a necessary condition to be recognized in our “fellowship one with another,” if we wish to secure the end for which we are working, namely, “fellowship with the Father, and with his son, Jesus Christ?” The Second Series 1.—In the accomplishment of its mission among men the truth acts by separation and association. a. It separates men from the world: “Come out from among them and be ye separate.” b. It associates those so separated: “Ye are all one . . . forsake not the assembling of yourselves together.” It produces these results by the creation of scripturally derived ideas in the minds of those operated upon. By these ideas they are dominated and controlled. They become mentally new creatures, and manifest the change in their altered relations to men and things around them. 2.—But the association of those separated by the truth, is governed by conditions, that sometimes interrupt that association. Hence, “Have no company:” “withdraw:” “turn away”—are apostolic commands concerning some who have been actually separated by the truth. 30 3.—The conditions of association relate to two departments of our standing in Christ which may be expressed as conviction and character . . . Unity of conviction and mutuality of conformity to a certain standard of action, are the two conditions out of which association and fellowship grow, and by rupture of which, it is necessarily interfered with. 4.—This rupture may be only partial in either department and yet be sufficient to cause suspension of association in fellowship. Apostolic examples:— a. Refusal to recognise that Christ had come in the flesh was made a reason for not receiving men who believed in God and the Kingdom, and a number of other elements of truth. b. Idleness was declared a ground of disfellowship where men had otherwise submitted to the commandments of Christ. 5.—That the first condition of association is the belief of the truth, apart from the perception and reception of which, there is no basis of fellowship. 6.—That the truth forming this basis is made up of a number of items or elements, that are each essential to its integrity as a whole. 7.—That it is a matter of duty to require the recognition of these at the hands of those claiming association with us in the truth. 8.—That we are not at liberty to receive any one who denies or refuses to believe any of them, because the receiving of such would open the way for the currency of their principles among us, with the tendency of leavening the whole community. The elements of the truth are so mutually related that the displacement of one undermines the foundation of the whole. 9.—A man himself believing the truth, but willing to wink at its denial among those in fellowship in any of its essential elements, becomes, by this willingness, an offender against the law of Chist, which requires the faithful maintenance of the whole. Faithful servants of Christ cannot unite with such, on the ground that though he hold the truth himself, such a man is responsible for the error of those whom he would admit, and therefore becomes the channel of a similar responsibility to those who may endorse him in fellowship:—“He that biddeth him God-speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 10.—That it is the duty of the friends of the truth to uphold it as a basis of union among themselves by refusing to receive either those who deny any part of it, or those who would receive those so denying. 11.—Paul commands withdrawal from “any man” who “obeys not his word,” “delivered by epistle.” He commands the brethren to hold fast the traditions taught by him, “whether by word or epistle.” 12.—Paul teaches by epistle that all Scripture is given by inspiration of God. 13.—We are bound to hold fast by this, and to refuse association with any man refusing submission to this apostolic tradition. 14.—The doctrine of partial inspiration is a nullification of this apostolic tradition; and a doctrine consequently, from the holders of which, we are bound apostolically to withdraw. 15.—That the highest sanction of reason supports this apostolic obligation, since logically, the doctrine of partial inspiration, when worked out, deprives us of confidence in the only access we have to the divine mind in our age. Answers to Correspondents (Reimmersion) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1872, p. 39 J. A. N.—You doubtless did right in making sure your standing in Christ in reimmersion. The doctrine that Christ will judge the living and the dead at his appearing is one of the elements of the gospel— (Rom. 2:16; Acts 10:42; Heb. 6:1) the lack of which at a former immersion it is dangerous to tamper with 31 as a possible invalidation of our position. And what is necessary to give validity to immersion is necessary as a basis of fellowship. No believer could, therefore, remain connected with a body repudiating this element of truth. But there is a difference between the rejection of a truth and a defective knowledge of it. Men may have believed that Jesus will perform the office of judge at his appearing, without having perceived that it involves the appearance of the righteous before him in an unglorified state. This, as a matter of detail, and subsequent growth in knowledge, may have escaped their recognition, while fully receiving Christ as the appointed arbiter of human destiny. It is well, therefore, to leave it to individual conviction as to whether re-immersion is requisite in such cases. Where, as in some cases, the doctrine of judgment was unknown or distinctly rejected, there is no alternative to the position you have taken up, but where as in other cases, it was believed without being thoroughly understood, it is well to waive objection where the truth is now received, leaving it with every man to decide for himself whether, upon doubtful ground, he is prepared to face the momentous problem of the judgment seat. Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue, Birmingham. – No. 4 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1868, p. 76 (Excerpt) And we are here this morning to realise and recognise the object which John here asserts to have been the very object of their declaring all these things. For we must ever remember their proceedings had an object. They did not go abroad to declare the resurrection of Christ simply because they privately knew it to be a fact, and wanted other people to know it as an interesting fact. They had a palpable and intelligible and very definite object in view, and it is upon that object that we must concentrate our attention, for our belief of their testimony, apart from the object they had in delivering the testimony, is altogether vain. We had better never know what they taught if we fail to realize the object they had in view in teaching what they taught. Here John declares that object: “That ye may have fellowship with us, and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with His son Jesus Christ.” Now what does this mean? It means something very much more than the technical fellowship known to the language by which we define our ecclesiastical relations in this present imperfect state. To have fellowship with, is to be a fellow of, in the sense of being identical in mind, faith, disposition, principle, practice, taste and intention, and also in nature and relation. To have fellowship with the apostles, is to stand in their position, and their position John defines to be one of fellowship with the Father and his son Jesus Christ. To call men into this position is the object of the truth, but there are two stages in the attainment of it. The first relates to state of mind now, and the second to order of being at the full manifestation of the divine purpose. The first is the one we have more especially to concern ourselves with on the present occasion. John here says that a man has no fellowship with God if he walks in darkness. “If we say we have fellowship with him and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth.” John is here addressing himself to those who believe the truth. He gives us to understand that a person who merely knows the truth intellectually—who merely believes there was such a man as Jesus Christ, and that he rose from the dead, and is theoretically offered as the salvation of God, but walks in unrighteousness, is none the better for his knowledge, and deceives himself, if he imagine he is a son of God. The mere knowledge of the truth will never secure for any one an entrance into the kingdom. The truth is but an agency; the gospel is but a means; and unless the end is realised, the means are a failure. Now the end proposed in the first instance is to give us fellowship with the Father. To do this, it must cause us to walk in the light John speaks of “God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.” We are not to read these terms darkness and light literally. There is nothing more conspicuous throughout the whole course of the scriptures than 32 the metaphorical use of “light” and “darkness.” In this use, “light” is not a brightness to be seen by the physical eye, but a state of enlightenment—an intellectual and moral light. Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue, Birmingham. – No. 22 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1870, p. 203-204 (Excerpt) Meanwhile, we have to determine our position, and shape our course by the instruction left us by the apostles. Some part of these we have in this chapter. We are to walk in the light. “This,” says John, “is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all. It we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not speak the truth.” This is a very important item of knowledge. We know that God is light, in a visible sense, for He dwelleth in light no man can approach; but He is light in the sense opposed to the moral and intellectual darkness from which Jesus sent Paul to turn the Gentiles.—(Acts 26:18.) Besides having knowledge, He is holy, and just, and truthful, and merciful, gracious, long-suffering, and wise. This aspect of the light has come—“the true light now shineth.” John says that light has come by Jesus. It shines, as it were, in his face.—(2 Cor. 4:6.) In him is light, and the light is the life of men. What we have to do is to look at that light, and walk in it, that we may be children of the light.—(John 12:36.) If we walk in darkness, we are not in the light, whatever knowledge of the truth we may have as a theory. “If we say we have fellowship with him and walk in darkness, we lie and do not speak the truth.” This is a test of comparatively easy application. Walking in darkness is living in opposition to the divine character. This may be done in various ways, ever remembering that disobedience in one line is as fatal as in all. A man who is in the habit of lying, which is an established habit in the world, walks in darkness, though he may “give much alms to the people.” A man who loves not, and is destitute of deeds of kindness, walks in darkness, though he may know all things; for God is love, and kind to the unthankful and the evil. A selfish man walks in darkness; so does the vindictive man, the quarrelsome man, the proud man, the dishonourable man, and whoever else behaves in opposition to the mind of Christ. Such have no fellowship with the Father, however much they may know of the Father’s affairs. They walk not in the way He has made known for men to walk in, and are, therefore, none of His. He wants “obedient children.” He has no use for such as are not “conformed to the image of His Son.” How lamentable it would be if it were otherwise! What an ugly state of things it would be for the kingdom to be filled with ungodly theorists; men of “doctrinal” skill, but of selfish and unprincipled hearts. 33 34 Ecclesial Independence "Associations" are unscriptural. The congregations of Christ in early times, were entirely independent, none of them being subject to any foreign or extraneous jurisdiction, but each governed by its own Rulers, and the Apostolic laws. No peculiar set of men, associated under any exclusive title, had any juridical authority, or any sort of supremacy, or the least right to enact laws under any pretence whatever. Nothing, on the contrary, is more evident than the perfect equality that reigned among the primitive churches; nor does there even appear, in the first century, that association of provincial churches from which councils and metropolitans derive their origin. It was only in the second century, that the custom of holding councils commenced in Greece whence it soon spread through the other provinces of the Roman world. Bro. John Thomas The Apostolic Advocate, 1835, p. 121 (Excerpt) The principle of ecclesial independence has been clearly recognized and sacredly upheld among us hitherto as a principle vital to the objects of the truth in the development of brethren and sisters in the simple ways of faith, in preparation for the coming of Christ. Bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 167 (Excerpt) 35 Associations—John Kerr—The Dunkards—Trine Immersion By bro. John Thomas (excerpt from The Apostolic Advocate, 1835, p. 121-123) On Sept. 2d I returned to Richmond after an absence of five weeks. During this period I travelled about six hundred miles, and spoke twenty-six times on the Christian Institution to a total of some three thousand people. On July 30th I arrived at Flat Rock in company with Bros. Jeter and Walthal. Here we found many of the brethren from various parts of Lunenburg and the adjacent counties. They had met here as delegates to, and spectators of, the proceedings of an Association, now probably defunct, called the Meherrin Association. We were respectfully invited to a seat. We appreciated the motive of our friends, but the invitation was not accepted. As far as we could learn, we believe there was not a single delegate, that was not fully impressed with the unscriptural character of these assemblies. Indeed, a vote was unanimously passed, that the churches be advised to dissolve the body. It is probable, therefore, that we were spectators of its demise. No "funeral was preached" over its corpse; may its ashes, however, rest in peace, and never rise again. "Associations" are unscriptural. The congregations of Christ in early times, were entirely independent, none of them being subject to any foreign or extraneous jurisdiction, but each governed by its own Rulers, and the Apostolic laws. No peculiar set of men, associated under any exclusive title, had any juridical authority, or any sort of supremacy, or the least right to enact laws under any pretence whatever. Nothing, on the contrary, is more evident than the perfect equality that reigned among the primitive churches; nor does there even appear, in the first century, that association of provincial churches from which councils and metropolitans derive their origin. It was only in the second century, that the custom of holding councils commenced in Greece whence it soon spread through the other provinces of the Roman world. The meeting of the Church at Jerusalem (Acts xv.) is commonly considered as the first Christian council or association. But this notion arises from a manifest abuse of the word council. That meeting was only of one church, and, if such a meeting be called a council, it will follow that there were innumerable councils in the primitive times. But every one knows that a council is an assembly of delegates, deputies or commissioners, sent from several churches associated by certain bonds in a general body, and thus the said supposition falls to the ground. Although the Christian assemblies in the first century were unassociated in any other bonds than those of love, in process of time, as HUMAN POLICY gained the ascendant, all the churches of a province were formed into one large ecclesiastical body, which, like confederate States, assembled at certain times, in order to deliberate about the common interests of the whole. This institution had its origin among the Greeks, with whom nothing was more common than this confederacy of independent States, and the regular assemblies which met, in consequence thereof, at fixed times, and were composed of the deputies of each respective State. But these ecclesiastical associations were not long confined to the Greeks; their great utility in subserving the ambitious views of a rising priesthood was no sooner perceived by the clergy, than they became universal, and were formed in all places where the Christian religion had been planted. To these assemblies, in which the deputies or commissioners of several churches consulted together, the names of SYNOD was appropriated by the Greeks, and that of councils by the Latins; and the laws that were enacted in these general meetings, were called canons, i. e. rules. "These councils," says Mosheim, "of which we find not the smallest trace before the middle of the second century, changed the whole face of the church and gave it a new form; for, by them the ancient privileges of the people were considerably diminished, and the power and authority of the bishops greatly augmented." Prudence indeed prevented the clergy assuming all at once the power with which 36 they were afterwards invested. At their first appearance in these general councils they acknowledged that they were no more than the delegates of their respective churches, and that they acted in the name, and by the appointment of the people. But they soon changed this humble tone, imperceptibly extended the limits of their authority, turned their influence into dominion, and their counsels into laws; and openly asserted, at length, that Christ had empowered them to prescribe to his people authoritative rules of faith and manners. Another effect of these councils was, the gradual abolition of that perfect equality which reigned among all bishops in the primitive times. For the order and decency of these assemblies required, that some one of the provincial bishops, meeting in council, should be invested with a superior degree of power and authority, and hence the rights of metropolitan bishops derive their origin. In the mean time the bounds of the church were enlarged; the custom of holding councils was followed where ever the sound of a corrupted gospel had reached; and the universal church had now the appearance of one vast republic, formed by a combination of a great number of little States. This occasioned a new order of ecclesiastics, who were appointed in different parts of the world, as heads of the church, and whose office it was to preserve the consistence and union of that immense body, whose members were so widely dispersed throughout the nations. Such were the nature and office of the patriarchs, among whom at length, ambition, having reached its most insolent period, formed a new dignity, investing the Bishop of Rome, and his successors, with the title and authority of Prince of the Patriarchs. (Mosheim, vol. i. p. 60.) Such is the testimony afforded us by history of the origin and usurpation of associations. History is the experience of past ages, and is able to make us wise in the conduct of the future. The embryo assemblies out of which arose the councils of Nice, Nicomedia and Trent, claimed to be nothing more than "advisory," which is the main plea by which it is attempted to sustain them among the Baptists at this time! Advisory! yes, indeed, even to the excommunication of churches from Christian fellowship. The designs of ambition are generally masked under a show of moderation and humility. These have been well played off among the Baptists until the people are cajoled into the belief of their scriptural and apostolic character. We rejoice, however, that in Lunenburg the knell has been sounded and the requiem of these antichristian assemblies chaunted [old spelling of chant] perhaps forever. H. P. Mansfield, Logos, 1972, Pioneer Supplement, p. 106 37 Excerpt from Eureka (“this new order of things” vs. “the order instituted by the Apostles”) By bro. John Thomas (Excerpt from Eureka, Tribes of Israel's Sons, volume 2, p. 321-322) Scarcely any two things can be more dissimilar than this new order of things, and the order instituted by the Apostles nearly 300 years before. Mosheim speaking of the episcopal presbyters, or overseeing elders, of the apostolic ecclesias and those of the second century, says: “Let none confound the bishops of this primitive and golden period of the ecclesia with those of whom we read in the following ages. For though they were both designated by the same name, yet they differed extremely in many respects. A bishop during the first and second centuries was a person who had the care of one christian assembly, which at that time was, generally speaking, small enough to be contained in a private house. In this assembly he acted not so much with the authority of a master, as with the zeal and diligence of a faithful servant. The ecclesias, also in those early times, were entirely independent; none of them subject to any foreign jurisdiction, but each of them governed by its own rulers and its own laws. Nothing is more evident than the perfect equality that reigned among the primitive ecclesias; nor does there ever appear in the first century, the smallest trace of that association of provincial ecclesias from which councils and metropolitans derive their origin.” The Ecclesial Guide #1 By bro. Robert Roberts (Excerpt from The Ecclesial Guide #1) The Term “Ecclesia” To help in the development, and give scope for the exercise of this faithfulness, obedient believers were required to form themselves into communities, which, in Greek, were called ECCLESIAS. There is no exact equivalent in English for this term Ecclesia. It means an assembly of the called. “Church” (by which it is translated) has not this meaning, and has become objectionable through association with unapostolic ideas and institutions. Consequently, the original term has to be employed. Compilers Note Please notice that in the very first statement of The Ecclesial Guide bro. Roberts states, “obedient believers were required to form themselves into communities”. Obedient believers were not required to form themselves into a single worldwide community or union of ecclesias. Each ecclesia was an autonomous local community which interacted with, or withdrew from, other autonomous communities after the Biblical pattern. The Ecclesial Guide #20 By bro. Robert Roberts (Excerpt from The Ecclesial Guide #20) Ecclesial Control It is next important, in making this choice, that the right of the whole ecclesia to control proceedings should not be absolutely surrendered into the hands of those chosen. To do this would be to appoint masters and not servants, and lay a foundation for the evils that have come from clerical domination. 38 While appointing special brethren to special offices, the ecclesia ought to retain a power of regulation and control. This is done by making the proceedings of the arranging brethren subject to the periodical approbation of the general body. Let the arranging brethren report their acts once in three months to the general body, and if there is anything objectionable in those acts, it is in the power of the ecclesia to repudiate them. Yet, since the decisions of the arranging brethren must often refer to matters requiring immediate attention, it is necessary that their decisions should be valid, without the consent of the general body; and that such acts should not be subject to repudiation. The two necessities are met by giving the arranging brethren the power to carry out their decisions at once; and the general body the power of veto only as regards the future. Compiler’s Note Please notice that there is no mention of any controlling authority outside of self-government regulated by the general body of the ecclesia itself. The Ecclesial Guide #44 By bro. Robert Roberts (Excerpt from The Ecclesial Guide #44) To form “unions” or “societies” of ecclesias, in which delegates should frame laws for the individual ecclesias, would be to lay the foundation of a collective despotism which would interfere with the free growth and the true objects of ecclesial life. Such collective machineries create fictitious importances, which tend to suffocate the truth. All ecclesiastical history illustrates this. Compiler’s Note Any union of ecclesias violates Clause #44 of The Ecclesial Guide. Would advocates of ecclesial unions have us believe that unions or societies of ecclesias are acceptable just as long as delegates are not involved in framing laws for the individual ecclesias?! Does anyone believe that delegates are the only evil? Brother Roberts speaks of delegates laying the foundation of a collective, that is a unionized, despotism and “collective machineries”. These things are generated whether by delegate or by mutual ecclesial agreements. As modern day ecclesial unions have demonstrated, they “create fictitious importances” by imagining themselves to be the One Faithful Body, or at least a superior Body in comparison to other any other Christadelphian union of ecclesias. And, as history demonstrates, they “tend to suffocate the truth” through their authoritarian tendencies at legislating every problem whether local or worldwide, and through their collective, a.k.a interecclesial, fellowship actions – actions which individually considered may, or may not, be correct in themselves. It is the collective power to do right, whose very existence sets the stage for collective power to do wrong which is despotism. New Testament ecclesias were not a unionized Fellowship but autonomous ecclesias. Rule #35 of The Birmingham Constitution 35. That in case of another ecclesia, after either of these processes, receiving into their fellowship any brother or sister from whom we have withdrawn, or who may have separated from us, we shall not consider it a cause of separation from them, but shall be content to maintain our own withdrawal from the brother or sister in question. Should they, on the other 39 hand, receive such, without re-investigation or without asking our concurrence in any reinvestigation that may take place, we ourselves shall apply to the said ecclesia for reinvestigation in the form defined by the last rule, and only in case of their refusal shall we consider that their action in the case has furnished a cause of separation. Readers should consider the practical consequences of Rule #35 in relation to interecclesial fellowship. If we are “in fellowship with those 10,000 miles away to just as great a degree as those with whom we meet weekly” and if we “believe that when we break bread we break bread with every” other brother and sister in [XYZ Fellowship] or we believe that we are “in fellowship with all in our [worldwide] community who share the emblems” then Rule 35 requires excommunication from the worldwide community. Rule #35 cannot be practiced by those who hold such beliefs. Notice to the Public. By bro. John Thomas The Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1860, p. 260 WE do the public in general to wit, that the truth advocated in the Herald of the Kingdom, nor we ourselves, are to be held responsible for what may be taught in any other periodical extant; nor for the practices of churches nor individuals. We have no authority over them, and therefore cannot enforce what we know to be right; and it is not just that responsibility should be exacted in the absence of power. We wholly disapprove of many things we see and hear. The Kingdom of God in its doctrine bearing fruit "is righteousness and peace and joy in a holy spirit." We have no fellowship for mere theorists. If men believe the truth, they must practise it, or be condemned to the “shame and contempt" of the judgment hour. The Question of the Inspiration of the Bible By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 165 (Excerpt) 3. It is very proper for an ecclesia to “resist interference with its ecclesial affairs.” The determination on this head, which the resolution expresses, is, however, somewhat ambiguous in its bearing. It is aimed at the Editor of the Christadelphian, of course; but it is hard to see how it applies, unless it refer to the conducting of the Christadelphian. The Editor of the Christadelphian has never interfered in the affairs of the Birkenhead ecclesia, or any other ecclesia. He has several times attended ecclesial meetings in various parts of the country, by request, to take part with them in the disentanglement of ecclesial difficulties: but this could not justly be characterised as “interference.” It was co-operation in a perfectly brotherly spirit, with brotherly results, and with the reverse of gratification to us in every case, except in so far as good was achieved. If it refer to the conducting of the Christadelphian, the complaint is still more destitute of reasonable ground. The Editor in all cases has only exercised the lawful prerogative of an editor. He has “edited” the contents of the magazine from the point of view of the objects at which it aims. This cannot be held to be an interference in any ecclesia’s affairs. Each ecclesia does its own untrammelled part; and the Editor of the Christadelphian does his. It will be an unspeakable relief when 40 the need for either part has ceased in the manifestation of the personal superintendence of the appointed judge; but while the need continues, what reasonable man would object to its faithful exercise in the spirit of mutual respectful independence and consideration? A paper cannot be conducted by many hands. Under any arrangement, the ultimate management falls into a single pair. Editing by committee is a performance which must end in abortion where it is not a pretence. 4. The last point has two features, only one of which calls for serious notice: that is, the proposal that “a conference of delegates from the various ecclesias should meet and undertake the responsibility of directing the interests of the truth.” It is impossible to offer too strenuous an opposition to such a proposal. It is a proposal that will not be accepted by enlightened believers in Christ who discern the true mission of the truth in its present stage; the nature and difficulty of the situation in which its work has to be done in these latter days; and the tendencies involved in the unapostolic and ambitious machinery proposed. The principle of ecclesial independence has been clearly recognised and sacredly upheld among us hitherto as a principle vital to the objects of the truth in the development of brethren and sisters in the simple ways of faith, in preparation for the coming of Christ. The abandonment of this principle—the surrender of self-government into the hands of a “conference,”—would be a long further stride towards that apostacy from apostolic principles which many fear is already begun in our midst. To consent to such a machinery would be to create an abstraction which would work mischief in a variety of ways. It would divert the minds of the brethren from the simple regulation of their own affairs: and introduce an outside source of debate and appeal. The “conference” would be before their minds in all their dealings, giving scope to unruly spirits to gratify their love of contention in the complicating of affairs that ought to be simple. And, worse still, it would put into the hands of those who are at home in the carnal arts of factious organisation, and manipulating of votes, a machinery which would inevitably work for the corruption and destruction of the truth in its faith and practice. It would organise a tyranny over ecclesial and individual life. It, at the same time, would open out a sphere at present closed to ecclesiastical ambitions. “Presidents” and “secretaries” would acquire a factitious importance that would soon ripen into the pretensions of clericalism; and the simple ways of the truth, which afford scope only for pure-minded, self-denying service, would soon be overwhelmed and destroyed by the flesh-glorifying and unapostolic officialism which prevails with such fatal effects in all branches of the ecclesiastical world from which we have been delivered. Faithful men will refuse to be compromised in such a plausible device. It may find favour with such as either lack experience in the working of spiritual things, or who have a defective sympathy with truly spiritual objects. Men of another stamp will say with brother Sulley: “For me, no compromise with ‘conference’ plan; it means spiritual death.” It is all very well for brethren to meet as spiritual units, to hold intercourse on the basis of the truth alone, on the model of fraternal gatherings such as frequently take place: in this there is advantage and profit. Introduce the “delegate” feature, for the organic assumption of “responsibilities” that already (and in a healthy form) rest on every individual shoulder that bears the yoke of Christ, and you introduce a leaven of corruption that will slowly work destruction and death. The following paragraph from the Guide embodies the view heretofore accepted among the brethren on this subject: Sect. 44.—“Fraternal Gatherings from various places.—These are beneficial when restricted to purely spiritual objects (i.e. let the brethren assemble anywhere, from anywhere, and exhort or worship or have social intercourse together): but they become sources of evil if allowed to acquire a legislative character in the least degree. Ecclesial independence should be guarded with great jealousy, with the qualifications indicated in the foregoing sections. To form ‘unions’ or ‘societies of ecclesias’ (and it may be added, ‘conferences’) in which delegates should frame laws for the individual ecclesias would be to lay the foundation of a collective despotism which would interfere with the free growth and the true objects of ecclesial life. Such collective machineries create fictitious importances, which tend to suffocate the truth. All ecclesiastical history illustrates this.” 41 Notes By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 572 C.E.B.—We fear there is little prospect of resumption of fellowship at Birmingham. The brethren in the Exchange refuse individual assent to the proposition put forward as the basis of agreement. Intelligence (Australia) (Ecclesial Independence) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1892, p. 158 Beware of sacrificing the principle of ecclesial independence. Any number of brethren may profitably come together to hold intercourse on a spiritual basis; but if they begin legislating, they will begin mischief. This is the lesson of all experience. Dr. Thomas was dead against it. Each ecclesia must legislate for itself. A conference of delegates may easily become an incubus on ecclesial life. Proposed Fraternal Gathering By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1872, p. 225 (Excerpt) IT has frequently happened that special occasions (such as the recent discussion with the Jews), have brought together a number of brethren at Birmingham, from divers parts of the country. This has given opportunity for mutual acquaintance and encouragement which have been found serviceable in the subsequent operations of the truth. These and many individual and detached visits to Birmingham have originated the question:—Why should there not be a stated opportunity for a gathering of brethren from different parts? The same question has been put by some who have never been out of their own immediate circle, but to whom the advisability of such a thing has suggested itself. The desire for mutual acquaintance and encouragement is reasonable, and if practicable, there could be no objection to its gratification, provided the gathering was simple and spiritual in character, and kept free from anything involving organization, or legislation, or interference with the independent action of ecclesias. The truth must be left to work its own work in the minds and consciences of believers. We must set up no authority. We must preserve, in its most untrammelled form, the liberty of voluntary fraternal association and co-operation, requiring, as our only condition, the belief and obedience of the truth. On subsidiary matters, we must preserve absolute independence of each other. We must beware of taking a step towards ecclesiastical law-making, which while intended for good, has in all the history of the world, worked evil. The beginnings are insidious, and have to be guarded against. If we are to meet, let it be as brethren merely, seeking to help each other in the work of preparing to meet the Lord. 42 Answers to Correspondents (The Christadelphians and Their Attitude) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1878, p. 226 (Excerpt) The statement that the Christadelphians claim to be “the ecclesia” (“church” is no less Greek, though of longer standing in English usage, and ecclesia is more convenient in consequence of the prostitution of the word “church,”) may be allowed to pass, if understood in the right way. As individuals, or as a human organisation, they make no pretence whatever to a divine appointment or standing. Their contention is that the truth of the gospel calls the believers of it from out of the world to be the servants of Christ, and that all who yield to the call become the called by virtue of their belief and obedience, and candidates for the favour of Christ at his coming. They claim to know and believe this truth. They do not claim “authority;” they do not attach any virtue to their organisation, except the advantages of edification to come from peace and order to its members. They do not set themselves up as an official body. They are merely an aggregation of men and women believing the truth of God, and striving to walk in the odedience of His commandments, hoping in the mercy of God for that eternal life which He has predicated on such a course. They have no ecclesiastical pretensions or desire for ecclesiastical recognition. If others believe in the same truth and walk in the same obedience, they are glad of and claim their company under the law of Christ. If any demur to the truth, or decline from that obedience, they withdraw from their company under the same law, not as a judicial act towards the withdrawn from, but as a washing of their own hands of complicity with evil. Thus, they rest everything on the truth, and nothing on their individual or corporate prerogative. The departure of the truth will be the departure of the ecclesia, even if the individuals remain in company one with another. The truth with them makes or unmakes: the organisation is an accident of the truth merely, and not its governor or even official medium. Understood thus, the Christadelphians admit that they claim to be the ecclesia, a claim, however, in which they admit all to participate who can prove that they are walking in the belief and obedience of the truth. Compiler’s Note Reader: Please carefully digest the opening sentence of this article from 1866. The Truth in Organic Manifestation in Nottingham By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1866, p. 52-53 (Excerpt) THE obedient believers in “the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ” at Nottingham, having lately come through a trial which has left them purified and strengthened in faith, though slightly reduced in numbers, have resolved on placing their church organization on a basis which will secure ecclesiastical individuality and efficiency, and at the same time conserve the faith upon which they are built, so far as organization is capable of doing such a thing. They have adopted the “constitution” which was devised and adopted by the ecclesia in New York in 1853, and published in the Herald of the Kingdom and Age to come for January, 1854, in which, as the reader will see from a perusal of the document subjoined, the master strokes of Dr. Thomas’s pen are clearly evident. This constitution we have been requested by the brethren in Nottingham to publish, so that their position in respect to all 43 parties may become known. The name adopted by the Nottingham brethren as the designation of their association on the basis of the constitution, differs from that chosen twelve years ago by the New York brethren, which was “The Royal Association of Believers, &c.” This name was intended to express the future bearings of the high calling in respect to the position to which the brethren of Christ will be exalted as kings and priests in the age to come; but it has since appeared to the New York brethren, under the guidance of our beloved brother and teacher Dr. Thomas, that it is more expedient to adopt a designation expressive of the present attitude of those who are called in Christ, in relation to the outer world of darkness against which they are called upon to testify and towards which it is their duty to exhibit the light, whether they will hear or whether they will forbear. In accordance with this view, they have taken upon themselves the title of “The Antipas Association of Believers,” &c. For a vindication of this designation, which is the one adopted by the Nottingham brethren, we refer our readers to the first paragraph of the subjoined document which, in our judgment, is unanswerable. Our readers are not unaware that the name Christadelphian has also been employed to distinguish the genuine professors of the gospel of Christ from the great mass outside claiming to be considered “Christians.” This designation, which was devised to meet the contingencies of the brethren in America in a time of war, is not set aside by ‘Antipas,’ but continues to be the individual designation of those holding the truth in purity and righteousness, while the other is a collective name importing the hostile attitude assumed by Christadelphians as a community towards the professing churches of the day. Christadelphian is a private or family name and Antipas a public name. The one defines the relation Christwards of those accepting the designation, and the other their relation worldwards. Brethren of Christ and witnesses for the truth are the two ideas expressed in the phrases. In plain Saxon, these phrases would be acknowledged and claimed by every section of the Great Babylon of apostasy which reigns supreme from the Pope in the chair of St. “Peter” to the Mormon elder, declaiming his lustful and blasphemous doctrines from a wooden rostrum. They would therefore define nobody in their Saxon form. But in the form above set forth, they are repudiated by everybody except those intelligently and courageously holding the faith once for all delivered to the saints. “It Seemed Good to the Holy Spirit and to Us” By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1899, p. 112-113 These were the terms in which “the apostles, and elders, and brethren” communicated to the ecclesias of the Gentiles the will of God concerning the “necessary things” for them to observe and do. There are no “apostles and elders” now; there is no gift of the Holy Spirit, such as Peter referred to when citing the case of Cornelius’ household. There are no miracles such as Barnabas and Paul declared “God had wrought among the Gentiles by them. No community, council, or “conference of delegates” could make the least pretence to speak with any such authority. And the citation of this testimony in conjunction with the suggestion of such a “conference” is like the offer of a stone for bread. Who would not joyfully and thankfully avail himself of access to a real fountain of “the word of the Lord”? But on the other hand, who, with his eyes open to the reality of the present “famine” (Amos 8:11), and the history of the assumptions and corruptions of the apostacy, could yield for a moment to any such suggestion. From the first it has been recognised in the latter day revival of the truth, that anything tending to invest men with fictitious authority, was to be carefully avoided. Dr. Thomas was clear on this; and the late Editor also insists on it as one of “the lessons of thirty years’ experience” in section 44 of the Ecclesial Guide, where, speaking of “Fraternal gatherings from various places,” he says: “These are beneficial when restricted to purely spiritual objects (i.e., let the brethren assemble anywhere from anywhere, and exhort, or worship, or have social intercourse together); but they become 44 sources of evil if allowed to acquire a legislative character in the least degree. Ecclesial independence should be guarded with great jealousy, with the qualifications indicated in the foregoing sections. To form ‘unions’ or ‘societies’ of ecclesias, in which delegates should frame laws for the individual ecclesias, would be to lay the foundation of a collective despotism which would interfere with the free growth and the true objects of ecclesial life. Such collective machineries create fictitious importances, which tend to suffocate the truth. All ecclesiastical history illustrates this.” Notes (“We have no power”) By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1900, p. 526 A.E.F.—According to constitution of the Birmingham ecclesia, we “recognise as brethren and welcome to our fellowship all who have been immersed (by whomsoever) after their acceptance of the same doctrines and precept.” But we have no power to deal with disputes in a far country. The principle of ecclesial independence of action is a thing to be strenuously guarded. The blunders that are frequently made are nothing in their evil to what the establishment of a fictitious central power would be. There is nothing to be done but wait for Christ from heaven. Ecclesial Responsibilities By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1914, p. 129 Cross currents at the antipodes suggest the serious question of determining the nature and due limits of ecclesial responsibilities. Two pamphlets come along from New Zealand—contradictory pamphlets, in so far as is indicated in the fact that the writers are not in fellowship with each other—yet each advocating the establishment of a pure fellowship throughout the world. They are by brother S., and by brethren D., K., and C., respectively, and neither seems to take a true and just view of the situation. Brother S.’s pamphlet (or rather the covering letter which accompanies it), speaks of the desirability of recognising his party as part of the Birmingham ecclesia. But this is not only physically impossible, but is opposed to New Testament precedent. The Lord did not account the members of the seven churches in Asia as simultaneously members of other churches than their own (except in the highest sense of membership in him). He did not charge Ephesus with the faults of Sardis or Laodicea, but dealt with each body separately; and we believe that the Lord’s way is best, and that well-meaning brethren who attempt to arbitrate beyond the limits of their jurisdiction will accomplish nothing good. The pamphlet of brethren D., K., and C. (with whom we believe we are in perfect doctrinal agreement), is quite inconsistent with itself in certain parts. For instance, it points out that “no reasonable man would demand each ecclesia’s consent to the particular form of words used in the Birmingham Statement.” Yet on the same page it finds fault with brother S. for having “refused to endorse the statement that all the clauses of the basis (Birmingham Statement), are necessary to express the first principles of the truth.” This invites the question, How were the first principles of the truth expressed before the document in question was compiled? And why should brethren D., K., and C., being “reasonable men,” demand such “consent” to a “particular form of words”? Further, they tell us that their “principal object” in issuing their pamphlet is:— “To show clearly the position we take, and to invite all who can honestly take the same to join with us in an effort to establish a pure fellowship throughout the world. This is not an invitation to ‘divide’: it is a call to unite with those who ‘speak the same thing,’ so that there be 45 no schism among us; but, ‘being perfectly joined together in the same mind, and in the same judgment’ (1 Cor. 1:10). We shall then have fellowship with the Father and the Son, and with each other. This is not ‘division’; it is only separating ourselves from those with whom we can have no true union or fellowship, even if we were to continue to meet together.” In conclusion, brethren D., K., and C., invite readers to weigh the matter well, and let no man decide for them (that is, of course, except brethren D., K., and C.—ED. C.). “Step out on the right side,” say they (but without ‘division,’ we note), and let all and sundry who are like-minded communicate with brethren D., K., and C., who will then, with them, take further steps to establish a pure fellowship throughout the world. Now we respectfully suggest that these brethren are going outside their province, and that it does not pertain to them to purify, say, the Birmingham, or any other ecclesia than their own. Also that the idea of “stepping out on the right side” without “division,” is a contradiction in terms, and that their proposed action can only add division to division, without the establishment of the pure fellowship they very rightly desire. Let each ecclesia consider its own way, as being responsible to the Lord after the example of the seven churches in Asia. And let no ecclesia begin to think that it can do what is really and truly his work, and establish “a pure fellowship throughout the world.” We know a good deal of the inner workings that have caused the production of these two pamphlets, and the foregoing is the best advice we have to offer upon the matter. “Pluralism” By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1907, p. 506-507 A brother asks: “Seeing that the ecclesia of Christ is one, would there be any objection or inconsistency in a brother being enrolled as a member of two ecclesias simultaneously”? ANSWER.—There are objections. A brother cannot be a member of two ecclesias simultaneously. The ecclesia of Christ is one truly, but the oneness remains to be revealed when Christ comes, when every member of the “one body” will be manifested in his or her perfect place. Meanwhile we are in a partitive or disjointed condition in a Gentile interregnum (1 Cor., 13:9–12). But even so, some order and organisation is allowed, and must be preserved. And though “the church of God” is one, the “one body” now (in the totality of members in process of development), as in the apostolic days, is composed of many ecclesias. The Lord dictated seven epistles to the seven churches in Asia, holding each severally responsible for its handling of the truth. The apostles likewise ministered to and wrote to several ecclesias, as we see in the epistles. And in these God had set ministers as we read in 1 Cor. 12:28— apostles, prophets, teachers, &c. The apostles truly had authority from Christ in all the Churches as Paul insists, and as he beseechingly bids them remember, for edification and not for destruction. But some of the prophets were none too spiritual, as Paul had to remind them (1 Cor. 14.). And there were “false apostles” and brethren who were “the enemies of the cross of Christ.” Now supposing some of these latter had been simultaneously members of the ecclesias of Ephesus and Laodicea. They would have been “voting” against John in Ephesus, and for some Hymeneus or Philetus at Laodicea, and their evil influence would have had double the scope that it ought. As a matter of fact in the outworkings of apostate Christendom, men of corrupt minds did seek and obtain dominion in this way, and one of the abuses that has been, and is being checked by law in this country is what is called “Pluralism,” or the holding of more than one benefice by one clergyman. Of course this is far removed from the thoughts or view of our correspondent; but it is the beginnings of things that have to be watched, and the principle of ecclesial independence is a thing to be most jealously guarded, especially in view of the history of 46 Christianity. Of course there cannot be the slightest objection to any brother in his business migrations, travels, and so forth, helping any number of ecclesias in a purely spiritual manner by lectures, exhortations, or counsel; but he ought not to have a voice in the control of more than one meeting at a time. The question has been discussed frequently in years gone by, and the wisdom of the course above indicated will commend itself to our correspondent upon further study and investigation. “The Christadelphian” and the Constitution of the Birmingham Ecclesia By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1911, p. 471-472 A brother in New Zealand, having written to the Arranging brethren of the Birmingham ecclesia complaining about the omission of certain intelligence, and asking for some enlightenment concerning a clause of the constitution, the following reply was sent by the Recording brother:— DEAR BROTHER TINGEY, —Your letter, February 26th last, was duly laid before the Arranging Brethren of this ecclesia, and I was directed to send you the following reply:— The Christadelphian is a private undertaking, and is not in any way conducted by the Birmingham (Temperance Hall) Ecclesia, though the magazine is in full sympathy and harmony with our Constitution and basis of fellowship. The ecclesia is not in any way responsible for the acceptance or rejection of any correspondence addressed to the Editor, to whom all complaints on this head should be directed. The Arranging Brethren very much sympathize with the editor (who is one of their number) in the bewildering complications arising through ecclesial cross currents throughout the world. With regard to your request for an explanation of Clause V. of our Constitution, we submit it in the following terms. The clause in question reads as follows:— V.—That Adam broke this law, and was adjudged unworthy of immortality, and sentenced to return to the ground from whence he was taken—a sentence which defiled and became a physical law of his being, and was transmitted to all his posterity (Gen. 3:15–19, 22–23; 2 Cor. 1:9; Rom. 7:24; 2 Cor. 5:2–4; Rom. 7:18–23; Gal. 5:16–17; Rom. 6:12; 7:21; John 3:6; Rom. 5:12; 1 Cor. 15:22; Ps. 51:5; Job 14:4). The expression “a sentence which defiled and became a physical law of his being” receives illustration from the scriptures quoted. Paul speaks of himself and his fellows as having “the sentence of death in ourselves” (2 Cor. 1:9); that is, they were not only mortal, but “despaired even of life” (5:8), by reason of the troubles and persecutions of the times. Paul speaks in Rom. 7:24 of “this body of death.” Such was Adam after transgression, but before transgression he was not “a body of death,” and had no “sentence of death in himself.” The case of Gehazi and his leprosy is an illustration. Before Elisha’s word there was no leprosy in Gehazi; but after he had pronounced the sentence the word took effect in Gehazi’s body, and he went out of the prophet’s presence “a leper, white as snow” (2 Kings 5.). So Adam had no “law of sin in his members” (Rom. 7:23), until he transgressed, but after he had transgressed, the sentence took effect upon his body as really and physically as in the case of Gehazi. Paul says “In this earthly house, we groan . . . earnestly desiring . . . that mortality may be swallowed up of life” (2 Cor. 5:2–4). Adam before transgression could not say this, having no experience of “groaning” and “mortality.” After transgression he had both. It is this truth that brother C. C. Walker is insisting on in The Christadelphian, 1906, p. 320. No one, so far as we are aware, has said that “sin” is a literal element, that was, as it were, hypodermically injected by God into Adam after he had sinned; but evil in the flesh being the result of sin, flesh itself is metonymically called “sin” as we see in 2 Cor. 5:21. “He (God) hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin.” David says, “Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, and in sin did my mother 47 conceive me” (Psa. 51:5), and Job says, “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? Not one” (Job 14:4). These are some of the scriptures quoted in support of our clause V. When some in Sydney thought fit to substitute “degraded” for “defiled,” and to suggest that their statement should be “THE Christadelphian Statement of Faith,” in our estimation they acted unwisely. In saying, as the Shield did say, that the Lord Jesus was “undefiled in every sense” (a saying which we believe has been modified), they appeared to be taking a step, at least, in the direction of denying that “Jesus Christ came in the flesh.” And we think that no ecclesia has authority to set forth a statement as “THE Christadelphian Statement of Faith.” The statement appended to our constitution has done duty for this ecclesia (and for many others) for many years, and in our estimation does not need revision. But we have willingly given this explanation in hope that it may be of some assistance to you in the trouble that has arisen. We are handing a copy of this reply to brother Walker, with the request that he will publish the same in The Christadelphian. “The Christadelphian” in Australia By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1912, p. 117 The attempted justification of this extraordinary procedure appears to lie in the following sentence:— “It (The Christadelphian) has innocently and unintentionally usurped the functions and duties of ecclesias by becoming, as it were, the standard of ‘Christadelphianism.’” Does the brother know what he is talking about? We are glad of the testimony as to the innocence of our intentions; but “usurped the functions and duties of ecclesias”! and “by becoming the standard”! Would he have us become the standard of diabolism? Is he not himself trying to set up the standard of Christadelphianism? What are “the functions and duties of ecclesias”? Are they not covered by the scriptural formula: “Fear God and keep his commandments”? Whenever did The Christadelphian “usurp” these “functions and duties”? And whenever did it seek to “lord it over the assemblies”? If there is one principle that the magazine has upheld more emphatically than another in relation to ecclesias, it is that of the independent responsibility to the Lord of each ecclesia—the principle of ecclesial selfgovernment, whether in Birmingham, Melbourne, or elsewhere. It was upon this principle that we objected to the promulgation of a creed by an ecclesia (no matter which) under the title “THE Christadelphian Statement of Faith,” because no ecclesia has authority to issue a document to be binding upon the whole household of faith throughout the world. But there is no comparison between such a document and The Christadelphian. This magazine has never demanded subscription thereto, either in money or assent to policy, as a condition of recognition of brotherhood in Christ. As a matter of fact the majority of Christadelphians do not subscribe to it; but that makes no difference either to its aims or policy. Is It to Be a Central Tribunal? By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1919, p. 461-462 We have received a few letters relative to a circular entitled “The Right Way and the Wrong Way,” sent out by the London Standing Committee. A note at the head thereof, addressed “To Ecclesial Secretaries,” says that “a copy should be handed to every member.” It is right to explain that we were asked to print and publish this circular and declined, feeling that the anonymous case involved in the fragmentary correspondence quoted, which certainly does not lay bare all its facts, was one that should by no means be obtruded upon all the ecclesias, but should be left for the ecclesia concerned to deal 48 with on its own responsibility to the Lord. Upon our refusal to publish the correspondence the seven London brethren published it themselves. Now all these seven brethren are by us “esteemed very highly in love for their work’s sake.” Nevertheless we have grave misgivings as to the course they now appear to be taking. Do they wish all ecclesias in the United Kingdom, and all “members” thereof, to consider them a permanent ethical tribunal, to whose judgment as to “right ways and wrong ways,” in such cases as that under consideration, all must bow under pain of excommunication? Surely the answer must be in the negative. Where would our jealously guarded ecclesial independence vanish to if such an idea were tolerated? Some time ago brother F. G. Jannaway was alluded to in the press as “the head of the Christadelphians.” Of course, he only smiled. Some time ago the editor of The Christadelphian had to answer the question of a Court of Law as to whether he was “the recognised head of the Society of Christadelphians.” He said, “I am not ‘the recognised head of the Society of Christadelphians,” neither is there any such recognised head upon earth.” Then came the question: “Have you been authorised by the Ruling Body of the Society?” (The matter in question did not concern the body generally.) The answer was: “I have not been ‘authorised by the Ruling Body of the Society,’ because no such Ruling Body exists.” Then, for the information and guidance of the Court, the following statement was made: “Our Society in the United Kingdom consists of a number of churches (or ‘ecclesias’ as we call them), each of which is absolutely independent and self-governed. And this is the order of things in the U.S.A., Canada, the Australasian Overseas Dominions, and other countries.” These answers appeared to us to be right and true, and after the pattern of the “seven churches in Asia,” alluded to in the book of Revelation. The Lord did not charge Ephesus, or “the angel” therein, with the supervision of the spiritual affairs of all the rest of the Churches, though all the faithful would naturally love and respect that “church” and its eldership. Sardis and Laodicea were responsible to the Lord and not to Ephesus. So let it be still in these “remote islands of the Northern Seas.” One brother says he is distressed with this circular. On the data set forth he really cannot judge of the merits and demerits of the case in question, and does not see why he should have it presented to him. Another says bluntly, but it seems to us not untruly: “These brethren are not the keepers of my conscience.” As to the case in question, we do not presume to judge. It is perhaps due to readers to say that it is not in Birmingham, as might, perhaps, be supposed by some. Such is the disadvantage of anonymous communications. One brother thinks he knows three cases, to any one of which the correspondence might apply. Very likely he is wrong in all the three, who can say? The craving for authority is very natural. We are all waiting for Authority in the return of the Lord to judge us all. But while thus waiting, let us be careful how we begin to set up authorities ourselves. All ecclesiastical history is a terrible warning in this direction. It seemed a far cry from “the seven churches in Asia” to Rome; but it was not so very far after all! If we set up a Central Tribunal there will soon be more than enough for it to do, what with rising labour troubles, questions of trades-unionism, munitions making, and perhaps “Drink” and “smoke” thrown in. And we sadly fear that such discussions would make, not for unification and edification, but for division and strife. The Christadelphian (There are Now Movements) By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1922, p. 549 (Excerpt) The past fifty-nine years of records in this magazine constitute an irrefragible testimony to the outworking of the eternal purpose of God in the earth, and the aim and object of this magazine, now as always, is to help in the making ready of a people prepared for the Lord. In the following out of this aim 49 the endeavour is so far as possible to preserve “the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace” (Eph. 4:3), an increasingly difficult problem in such a world as this, and in the “perilous times” of its “last days.” The Christadelphian in present hands stands for the independence of the ecclesias, and their individual responsibility to the Lord. Its present editor agrees with the late editor, who, in sec. 44 of the Ecclesial Guide, spoke of “Fraternal Gatherings” as follows:— Fraternal Gatherings from Various Places These are beneficial when restricted to purely spiritual objects (i.e., let the brethren assemble anywhere from anywhere, and exhort, or worship, or have social intercourse together); but they become sources of evil if allowed to acquire a legislative character in the least degree. Ecclesial independence should be guarded with great jealousy, with the qualifications indicated in the foregoing sections. To form “unions” or “societies” of “ ecclesias, in which delegates should frame laws for the individual ecclesias, would be to lay the foundation of a collective despotism which would interfere with the free growth and the true objects of ecclesial life. Such collective machineries create fictitious importances, which tend to suffocate the truth. All ecclesiastical history illustrates this. Pioneer days are long past, and the tendency of ecclesiastical and all other history is to repeat itself. Consequently there are now movements quite opposed to the spirit of this sound advice, and even with regard to The Christadelphian itself some would like to see its editor put under the control of some “committee.” One brother quaintly objected to this: “You would only substitute seven devils for one!” The editor, while denying the soft impeachment involved, admits the cogency of the argument in the abstract. If he become a sufficiently objectionable diabolos he is quite easily disposed of by the simple expedient of all readers withdrawing their support, and leaving him to perish in his own devices. But who but the Lord himself could deal with those “seven”? In our judgment it will not be easy to improve materially upon the admittedly imperfect conditions and endeavours of the past half-century and more. In fact, it is far easier to spoil things than to improve. No one is more deeply impressed with present-day imperfections than is the editor of this magazine; but it would be affectation to deny (and in the presence of much generous encouragement from all parts of the world at such a time as this) that some measure of success has attended the work. We call readers to witness that we have never exploited “the praise of men.” But an apostle does say: “I praise you, brethren” (1 Cor. 11:2); and we are not insensible to the praise of good men, nor, we trust, to the blame of such, where necessary. Finally, it is for the Lord to praise or blame as he will. We hope for his favour in that day. Ecclesial Representation By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1923, p. 122-123 (He is not ashamed to call them brethren.—Heb. 2:11.) As was explained in our issue for December last, The Christadelphian in present hands stands for the independence of the ecclesias and their individual responsibility to the Lord. We agree altogether with the late editor and what he said in Section 44 of the Ecclesial Guide:— To form “unions” or “societies” of ecclesias, in which delegates should frame laws for the individual ecclesias, would be to lay the foundation of a collective despotism which would interfere with the free growth and the true objects of ecclesial life. Such collective machineries create fictitious importances, which tend to suffocate the truth. All ecclesiastical history illustrates this. Present-day developments tend to emphasise the truth of these observations. The Birmingham ecclesia withdrew from a small minority of disorderly brethren and sisters. As a result of agitation by these, certain other individuals and ecclesias have sought and are seeking to disallow the judgment of 50 the Birmingham ecclesia in the case. But the Birmingham ecclesia is not responsible to any outside authority in the matter, and will not be. There now comes from the north of England a proposal from a brother who is himself at variance with the ecclesia in his town, to form just such a Council or Judicial Body as is objected to in the extract from the Ecclesial Guide reproduced above. Twenty-five ecclesias are mentioned, and many names suggested, but neither Birmingham nor London figure on the list. Probably we cannot do better than reproduce here the remarks of brother Sulley in reply to this circular. Dear Brother,—While sympathising with you in the distress which you feel in consequence of the cloud which impends over us, I must say that your proposal to select delegates to consider the dispute that has arisen between the two meetings there referred to, is quite out of harmony with those instructions that are found in the Word for our guidance. Such a proposal if carried into effect would divest those who are called according to God’s purpose of their freedom of choice, which God the Father has bestowed and imposed upon them. Those who selected delegates would be appointing a tribunal of judges to act for them, in place of exercising their own judgment as to whom they should or should not hold in fellowship. This heritage of full choice and responsibility to Him should not be renounced on any account whatever. Since, therefore, I am not willing to part with my loyalty to my Lord, I am not willing to ask anyone else to act in that way, and could not consent to ask anyone else to represent me, and to act for me in a matter upon which I must come to my own conclusions after having carefully sought and found the evidence which would enable me to form a decision. Further, I would not consent to be a representative in any ecclesia for such purpose, even if appointed. The instructions contained in Matt. 18. and amplified in the apostolic writings, if carefully applied to any question in dispute should be sufficient to enable brethren to steer the ecclesial ship through the troubled waters. Although the terms of the instructions apply to individual differences they have an important bearing upon congregations, for what is a congregation but a number of individuals associated together for a common purpose? What is good for a single individual is equally estimable for a congregation, even though the method of application may require to be in a measure modified to fit the larger issue. Just as the rising sun dispels the morning mist, so the observance of the law of Christ will dispel the fog enveloping the body of Christ, and show the truth shining in radiant splendour. Another matter; you suggest that brethren should be selected because of their ability and long experience to signify their decision by ballot after prayerful invocation for guidance; such decision to be accepted as final and binding upon others. Permit me to point out that nowhere in the Gospels or apostolic writings do we find any injunction or example to warrant such a course of procedure. On the contrary, when the Apostle Paul warned the believers against the wolfish leaders who would arise in the Church, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them, he did not advise the brethren to consult men “because of their ability or long experience,” but commended them to God and to the Word of His grace, as able to build them up and to give them an inheritance amongst all that are sanctified (see Acts 20:29–32). Similarly, he referred Timothy to “the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. . . . That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works” (2 Tim. 3:15–17). He also instructed Titus to “hold fast the faithful word as he had been taught, that he might be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers, in opposition to unruly and vain talkers and deceivers” (Titus 1:9, 10.) In the case of the apostles who possessed the gift of the Holy Spirit, and whose commandments were to be observed by the disciples (2 Pet. 3:2), even their decisions were not promulgated without the concurrence of the brethren, who assembled when the question of circumcision or no circumcision for the Gentiles was considered (see Acts 14).. But in these days we have no divinely inspired apostles to 51 guide us, and must one and all come to our decisions after sifting any evidence put before us through the finely graded sieve provided in the Word of God. Further, the suggestion that a vote secured “after prayerful invocation for guidance” should be binding upon the brethren, implies that divine guidance will be given to those who have been chosen to act as delegates. This would be a very presumptuous claim if acted upon, and would establish a selfconstituted synod. The method of procedure suggested by the Apostle Paul is altogether different. He said, “If any man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness” (Gal. 6:1). The selection of “brethren of ability and long experience” to sit in judgment upon their fellows as representatives of an ecclesia, is more calculated to develop the spirit of pride than humility, and the next step after selecting representatives would be the selection of a Pope, to the hurt of the brotherhood and to the destruction of that liberty with which Christ has made us free. Ecclesial Responsibilities By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1925, p. 317 About eleven years ago certain well-meaning brethren at the antipodes set out in an effort “to establish a pure fellowship throughout the world.” There were four of them whose views and arguments were separately set out in two divergent pamphlets. These four were not themselves united in “a pure fellowship,” for three of them would not fellowship the other. The fourth thought it desirable that his party should be recognised as part of the Birmingham ecclesia. On which we remarked:— “This is not only physically impossible, but is opposed to New Testament precedent. The Lord did not account the members of the seven churches in Asia as simultaneously members of other churches than their own (except in the highest sense of membership with him). He did not charge Ephesus with the faults of Sardis or Laodicea, but dealt with each body separately; and we believe that the Lord’s way is best, and that well-meaning brethren who attempt to arbitrate beyond the limits of their jurisdiction will accomplish nothing good.” And then, having traversed some contradictory statements in the documents that had reached us, we concluded:— “Let each ecclesia consider its own way, as being responsible to the Lord after the example of the seven churches in Asia. And let no ecclesia begin to think that it can do what is really and truly his work, and establish ‘a pure fellowship throughout the world.’ . . . The foregoing is the best advice we have to offer upon the matter.” Another eleven years of trouble and strife has only tended to confirm us in these views. There has been a continuation of what the late editor lamented twenty-seven years ago. There were then “cross currents in ecclesial waters.” There were then, as there are now, “pleas for unsound union,” “pleas for uncalled-for discussion,” if not actual “pleas for apostasy,” which was how a certain pamphlet of those bygone days was characterised. The remedy was individual only. Faithful men could only go quietly on undismayed by current hypercriticism and latitudinarianism looking only to the Lord for judgment at the last. With regard to the late editor himself, he suddenly closed his eyes in death three or four months after writing this. And that is the sort of relief that will come to all of us in due time unless the Lord comes soon and calls us all to judgment. 52 The Pillar and Ground of the Truth By bro. John Carter The Christadelphian, 1945, p. 31 (Excerpt) The larger context of Paul’s words involves still more even than all this. In the “Sunday Morning” in this issue, bro. A. Dagg rightly and finely draws attention to the fact that our position as Christadelphians is strong because each individual knows the doctrines which God has revealed, and each one builds up his own character by individual reading, study and meditation on the word of God. The community becomes weak as brethren and sisters cease to grow in knowledge of God by the reading of His word, by decline in attendance at the meetings, and by neglect of prayer. But there is another source of communal strength—and this is the ecclesia. In the verses preceding Paul’s reference to the ecclesia being the pillar and ground of the truth, he has been defining the duties of ministering brethren. Their duty is to the ecclesia, which is the larger unit as the individual is the smaller unit in God’s arrangements. The ecclesia is strong when there is faithful stewardship on the part of its “elders”—men with a zeal for God and for the faith, “such as fear God, men of truth, hating covetousness.” Their responsibility is defined—it is in the ecclesia in which they have the oversight. The basis of apostolic organization is the ecclesia—not without co-operation with others, but with an organization independent of others, selfgoverning with a sense of responsibility to the Lord. And in keeping with this we find the Lord who walks in the midst of the lightstands knows the works of each, reproves and rebukes, encourages and exhorts as each one needs (Rev. 2: 3). It is noteworthy that the New Testament is completely silent about any development in interecclesial organization. Everything points the other way. History confirms this conclusion. As Hatch shows in his classic Organization of Early Christian Churches, it was not until the second century that “the custom of meeting in representative assemblies began to prevail among Christian communities.” “More or less informal” at first, they did not interfere with the liberties and responsibilities of separate communities. But later in the century the conferences grew in frequency, and in course of time the decisions of conferences of representatives became binding upon all the churches. But the progress in organization coincided with steady decline from the truth, and the organized church in the days of Constantine was a church the Lord reprobated. The lesson is plain. Ecclesial independence is something to be maintained, and ecclesial control must not be allowed to pass to organizations which are on other than an ecclesial basis. Sunday Schools, Youth Circles, and all other classes are all parts of ecclesial activity, and all must be subject to the direction or approval of the Arranging Brethren and through them to the ecclesia itself. Ecclesial interrelationship consists of recognition of each other as pillars and stays of the truth, whose decisions and arrangements are to be respected. If, however, an ecclesia ceases to uphold the truth by condoning error, if there is frankness and an acknowledgment of a changed view, then all cooperation is thereby terminated; it no longer is “a pillar and ground of the truth.” There are some things, of course, where ecclesias can co-operate, as in special efforts in towns adjoining, and in joint arrangements for efforts when ecclesial independence and responsibility is in no way infringed. There are some very wise words in the Ecclesial Guide on Ecclesial Troubles, Ecclesias in Relation One to Another, and Gatherings, and the limits that should be imposed upon the activities of these, with a warning against “unions” and “societies of ecclesias” (Sections 41–44), which are commended to all Arranging Brethren for study. 53 Ecclesias, Sunday Schools and Youth Circles By bro. John Carter The Christadelphian, 1945, p. 43 (Excerpt) We pointed out last month that ecclesial independence is something to be maintained jealously; and that such independence is the counterpart of ecclesial responsibility to the Lord. The price of that independence is constant vigilance and a recognition of their duties by Arranging Brethren and ecclesias. We also drew attention to the fact that there were no representative assemblies of ecclesias, and no unions or larger units than the ecclesia, provided for in the Scripture; nor in fact did any exist in the first century; and that the growth of conferences coincided with the decline from the Truth in the second century. In the words of Mosheim: “These Synods or Councils, of which no vestige appears before the middle of the second century, changed nearly the whole form of the church. For in the first place, the ancient rights and privileges of the people were, by them, very much abridged; and on the other hand, the authority and dignity of the bishops were not a little augmented. At first, they did not deny themselves to be the representatives of their churches, and guided by instructions from the people; but gradually they made higher pretensions, maintaining that power was given them by Christ himself, to decide upon rules of faith and conduct for the members of his church.”—Ecclesiastical History, III., 116. These facts are recognized by earnest students of the Word; they were fully recognized by bro. Roberts in the excellent Guide, where, in Section 44, he says: “Fraternal Gatherings from Various Places. These are beneficial when restricted to purely spiritual objects (i.e., let the brethren assemble anywhere from anywhere, and exhort or worship, or have social intercourse together); but they become sources of evil if allowed to acquire a legislative character in the least degree. Ecclesial independence should be guarded with great jealousy, with the qualifications indicated in the foregoing sections. To form ‘unions’ or ‘societies’ of ecclesias, in which delegates should frame laws for the individual ecclesias, would be to lay the foundation of a collective despotism which would interfere with the free growth and the true objects of ecclesial life. Such collective machineries create fictitious importances, which tend to suffocate the truth. All ecclesiastical history illustrates this.” It is now being suggested that a union of Schools be formed. In the first place this should be a matter decided by Arranging Brethren and through them by the ecclesias; it is a matter of major policy. Arranging Brethren should decide whether such a course is scriptural and desirable, and if so by what means ecclesial independence can be secured. In our view, unions can only be formed by the sacrifice and limitation of freedom; they involve the submission to arrangements which are made apart from any direct ecclesial control. But they are also a departure from what has, until the present, been recognized practice. Whatever advantages are securable by co-operation, as pointed out above are already available, or are projected when supplies of paper and books, etc., permit—and all without any violation of scriptural procedure. Lord Acton, the historian, said it was a rule of history that “Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.” That was true of the change in ecclesial organization in the second century. It is possible to adopt apparently innocuous arrangements to find too late that a beginning has been made in a course which leads to a departure from apostolic standards. It is easy to see how power exercised by councils legislating for others caused a spread of evil in the early days: a central core of error involved all. With ecclesial independence, with good Scriptural counsel, there is safety. One ecclesia may adopt errors and bring the Lord’s rebuke—“Thou hast them that hold the doctrine of . . .”—but others are not involved. The first century arrangement gave a security that was forfeited by the surrender of ecclesial responsibility. Let us hold fast the things that have been wrought. 54 Dr. Thomas on the Subject of Conferences The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 167-169 Reprint from The Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1861 Among the last of Dr. Thomas’s utterances in his editorial capacity, was an article which might almost have been written with reference to the proposal referred to in the foregoing remarks. We give such extracts as are suitable to the present case: “We have never known an effort in modern times to bring men back to ‘the simplicity which is in Christ’ in faith and practice, which has not either been embarrassed or defeated by parties superficially instructed in the principles sought to be scripturally developed, introducing under the speciosity of ‘doing good’ and saving precious souls, a paraphernalia of expediencies in the form of ‘conferences,’ ‘evangelists,’ ‘periodicals,’ and divers sorts of printings. These things, got up by clergymen and printers, ruined the originally well meant intentions and endeavours of the late Walter Scott, and his more tactical co-labourer, A. Campbell. These may be supposed to have been the only persons of their peculiar sphere who had a deep and thorough understanding of the principles of what they afterwards designated ‘this reformation’ with its ‘ancient gospel and order of things.’ All that was really necessary for the wholesome illumination of their contemporaries in what they regarded as ‘the truth,’ were their statements, illustrations, and proofs imparted orally and through the press. They may be supposed to have understood the teaching they had originated better than any others proselyted second, third, or fourthhanded to their theory. No doubt they did; Walter Scott better than Campbell; and both these better than any of their disciples. The nearer the spring head the clearer the water; the further off, the muddier, and the more encumbered with extraneous matters in solution. “But the purity of Scotto-Campbellism (if any thing emanating from the thinking of the flesh may, for the sake of the example even, be called pure) was soon defiled. Ambitious clergymen, who in their own sects would ever have remained in obscurity, saw that it was a rising sect; . . . and though mere novices in its principles, set up for full fledged birds, or preachers and leaders at once! Alas for the people when led by such! “But these were not the only ones who brought Scotto-Campbellism to a dead lock. A set of needy printers, who had picked up a smattering by the wayside, seeing, as they supposed, that Campbell was ‘making a good thing of it’ with his Mill. Harbinger and other works, and having a prudent eye to the main chance; under this inspiration, and upon the universal plea of ‘doing good,’ concluded to relieve him of some of his burden in the way of profits, and to carve out of his reformation business for their offices but scantily furnished with that indispensable. Thus, what with lay and clerical Episcopalians, Baptists, Presbyterians, and Universalists proselyted to ‘baptism for remission of sins,’ and enterprising printers in search of business, Scotto-Campbellism became a hodge-podge of wild traditions; and was crucified in the house of its pretended friends. Its inventors, who, though themselves clericals, denounced the clergy, ‘the one man system,’ colleges for theological purposes, ‘the benevolent institutions of the day,’ as Bible, missionary, tract, and other societies, had to succomb to this inundation of barbarians; and unless they shook them all off and began again, had to fall in with these old expediences which they had rebuked. The consequence is that the Scotto-Campbellite sect is but another daughter of Babylon, with all the paraphernalia in which the children of Jezebel delight. Its ‘literature’ is Campbellism homœopathically diluted, until scarcely discernible in the periodicals, or printers’ speculations, of the sect. “Now, to all these things we, and, as far as we know the views of the brethren in this country, with a few exceptions, are utterly opposed. We have no ‘conferences.’ . . Their influence is evil in the absence of divine authority and wisdom to enlighten and keep things straight. They are ecclesiastical schemes for the promotion of the hireling system, and for the working out of lay and clerical speculations. We protest 55 against them all as incipient tyrannies. Let every church manage its own affairs; let its members exert themselves in their own spheres for the diffusion of the truth; and if any can publicly ‘preach the word,’ let him go forth as we do without stipulation, and trust to the appreciation of his labours by his brethren, for his expenses and support. . . If a man be really devoted to the truth he will not wait for money to be raised to send him out. When by his earnest and self-denying labours he makes his influence felt, means will come in with the labour to extend its field. An ‘Evangelist’ who waits to be sent out by subscription, is just the man who should stay at home and take care of his own household. Conferences and committees and subscription lists, cannot make ‘Evangelists;’ they can make public talkers for the lucre’s sake, but not Scriptural Evangelists. . . . “It is our present intention to suspend the Herald, and therefore we feel free to speak of these things. We have held off in a good degree hitherto, lest it should be said that we opposed conferences and printing speculations because we wish to concentre all things in New York City. We have never manifested this disposition, nor felt it. We have heralded what many believe to be the truth (and it is to such only we speak now) according to what we considered the necessity of the times demanded. We found universal darkness, and we suspend leaving some ‘light in the Lord.’ We have laboured to exorcise their minds from all traditions and speculations and customs not in harmony with the word; and we are unprepared to see them spoiled again by the inventions and devices of those who know not the truth, or who are but superficially acquainted with it. We suspend, leaving no representative behind us in Britain or America. One periodical, and no more, if any be needed at all, is all that the real interests of the brethren require. The voice uttered will then be certain and unconflicting. If such a periodical make its appearance we shall give it all our support wherever it may be published; and we shall not resume the Herald to divert any of its receipts into our receptacle. But it must contend for the truth without coquetting with errorists; it must not be afraid of the clergy; it must have no sneaking kindness for those who ‘invent lies and love them,’ however respectable and respected among men; it must not be tame, flat, and insipid; its writing must not be twaddling and its matter without point; it must be a teacher, and not ‘ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth’—a mere vehicle for the yea and nay opinions of parties who presume to criticise and teach before they have rightly learned ‘what be the first principles of the oracles of God.’”—Herald, 1861. Answers to Correspondents By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1867, p. 223-225 (Excerpt) A “church” is the pillar and ground of the truth, in proportion as the people composing it are clearheaded and hearty advocates, defenders, and lovers of it; and, unquestionably, it is “their duty in admitting members, to see that they have the right faith, and that they continue in the faith and practice of the truth,” but this does not involve the conclusion that they possess spiritual power or jurisdiction. They see that candidates for immersion have the right faith, because Christ has made the validity of baptism depend upon the right faith, and not because they have power to make baptism valid or invalid. They see that the members continue in the faith and practice of the truth, not because they have authority to dictate or interfere in other men’s matters, but because the countenance in fellowship of that which is opposed to Christ’s will would work evil, and involve them in condemnation. These functions they can perform without the existence of rule and authority in their midst. In fact, under existing circumstances, an ecclesia burdened with such an element could not properly discharge those functions. How are such duties to be performed? Only by the collective will of an ecclesia. Does a candidate apply for immersion? The mind of the ecclesia must be taken, and the result must abide their 56 decision. Is an offender to be dealt with? The ecclesia must concur in any course proposed, or the proposal falls through. But if there were established in their midst, a class of men invested with power to use their authority, there would be an end to this system of management. Fraternal deliberation would be set aside by the ipse dixit of authority. The collective voice would disappear before individual dictum. An odious dictatorship would be established in the place consecrated to mutual service and brotherly cooperation, and the general interest and enterprise of the brotherhood would be repressed and extinguished by the knowledge, that after all said and done, the individual at the head, who might happen to be stupid and self-willed, would have his own way. In fact, to countenance such an institution, in any shape or form, would be to lay the germ of the system which has cursed the world with Popes and inquisitions. While absolutism is the best system of government when allied to infallible wisdom and magnanimity, it is the very worst possible in the absence of the spirit, when the poor resources of human nature are all we have to fall back upon. But our correspondent enquires: How can a society exist without rule or authority? We have indicated the answer to this question. A mutual submission to the collective judgment is the basis on which vaster societies than the ecclesia will ever become, are established. Under such a system, official brethren are not rulers, but officers. They merely carry out the wishes of the rest. They give effect to the decision to which the brethren have come. They act as servants of the ecclesia, not as its governors. Authority is impossible with them. Authority is no authority unless a man can say, like the Roman centurion, “Do this,” and use power to enforce his command. Who would assume such a position among those united in the truth on terms of absolute equality? No wise man would consent to accept such a position in the house of God, even if requested to fill it, unless indeed God commanded. The spirit of the entire institution of the ecclesia excludes it. The only remedy against recalcitrants is the passive one of withdrawal. We are not yet entrusted with authority. We are on trial for it, and have, meanwhile, to show ourselves worthy of it, among other qualities, by an utter destitution of inclination to exercise it. But brother Mowatt calls attention to Paul’s words to Titus: “For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee.” He also refers to 1 Tim. 3. in which Paul defines the qualities of the men to be selected as bishops or overseers, and lays especial emphasis on Paul’s language to the elders of Ephesus in Acts 20:28, where he exhorts them to “feed the flock of God over the which the Holy Spirit hath appointed you overseers.” Now, the argument intended by these references is answered in the passages themselves. The overseers set over the ecclesia in early times were appointed, not by the ecclesias themselves, but by the spirit operating in Paul and those who co-operated with him in the work of ecclesial organization. This gave the elders an authority, which (divinely constituted) they could wield without presumption or offence. Their appointment by the spirit was a guarantee to the ecclesias that they were fit to be entrusted with authority, and commanded for their word a deference which enabled them to rule with effect, while the gifts of the spirit which they individually possessed, were an evidence of their divine station which none could gainsay or resist. The fact that natural qualifications were requisite, is only a proof that the right men were appointed, and that the men so appointed were men in whom the ecclesias could confide, and to whose authority they could submit without danger or humiliation. Doubtless, there are men in our own day possessing those qualifications, but where are the inspired men to appoint them? There are no Pauls, no Timothies, no Tituses, through whom the spirit can signify their election. The spirit is voiceless in our day, except so far as it is heard in the things already written for our instruction. We are, therefore, left to do the best we can. “What our churches want more than anything else,” says brother Mowatt, “is proper rule and authority.” No doubt of it; and the brethren, as a whole, would hail with joy the establishment of “proper rule and authority;” No doubt of it; and the brethren, as a whole, would hail with joy the establishment of “proper rule and authority;” but how can such things be realised in the absence of the spirit to appoint individuals to exercise authority; Brother Mowatt might say “Paul defines the qualifications; we have only to select the men 57 possessing them;” but here’s the point; who is to judge as to whether the qualifications are possessed in a given case? Two sections of the same ecclesia might disagree very much on a point like this. One part might think a certain brother too partial, too excitable, and too little influenced by the teaching of the word to rule, while another part might think him eminently qualified for the office, and how could such a difference be reconciled? The finger of the Spirit would command the submission of all, but when left to natural judgment, so long as men are differently constituted in mind and disposition, there would be an utter impossibility of agreement on such a point. To establish such a principle of appointment would be to import into the pale of an ecclesia the elements of disturbance and contest. Twenty men may be qualified to act as President of the United States, but only the man who is chosen by a popular voice receives the submission of the nation. So there may be men among the brethren capable of ruling the ecclesia, but in the absence of the spirit’s token, it is impossible to command adhesion to the appointment of any of them to such an office, and from the great liability of putting a wrong man in, it is highly inexpedient to sanction his appointment by any other means. All we can do is to bring wise counsel to bear on the collective deliberations, and thus give to the collective determination all the value of a wise individual authority. In this way, the wise men of an ecclesia, who, in the days of the spiritdispensation might have been chosen to rule, will give the ecclesia the benefit of their qualifications. Authority itself is out of the question. It is child’s play to assume it where there has been no appointment; it is something worse, for the exercise of it will either create rancour or drive away intelligence and independence from the meeting. “Oppression maketh a wise man mad.” This is true in all its degrees. The brethren would submit to any appointment God might make, but the airs of a man of limited intelligence and narrow mind, who might take it into his head that he is called upon to use authority, would be a nuisance which men of ordinary mental parts would feel to be intolerable. He who is the most fitted to govern has the least disposition to dictate to others. The most that can be done is to appoint officers to perform the duties arising out of an ecclesia’s operations. These require the spirit of service, and do not admit of “the element of rule and authority.” In the present state of things, so far as the management of an ecclesia’s affairs are concerned, there can be no authority but the collective voice expressed by vote. The republican constitution of things is the only one practicable; and this is quite serviceable (though not so effective as a spirit-delegated authority would be) for the main object in view, viz., the promotion of each other’s welfare in things spiritual and temporal. – August 9th, 1867. 58 Statements of Faith For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness Romans 10:10 59 Notes (A Common Statement of Faith) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1881, p. 572 “JUSTICE.”—Your proposal for the simultaneous adoption of a common statement of faith by all the ecclesias is made with the best of objects; but it could not accomplish the end you seek. It is not possible in the present state of things to bring all to harmony and stop the mouths of talkers. If the Apostles did not succeed in this, none else need hope to do so. We can but do our best and let things take their course. Christadelphian ecclesias in the 1850’s through the 1940’s held a variety of statements of faith as their basis of fellowship. Every ecclesia independently decided their basis of fellowship and their ecclesial laws. They did not obsess about having a common statement of faith and in fact brother Robert Roberts rejected the idea as shown above, as did bro. C. C. Walker. There were many statements including the New Jersey statement of faith, the Edinburgh statement of faith, the Nottingham statement of faith, the Islington statement of faith and the Birmingham statement of faith. Some even used “The Declaration” as a basis of fellowship. Statements of Faith By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1903, p. 412-413 [Note: This article contains the 3rd time since the magazine was started in 1864 that the phrase “the Christadelphian statement of faith” appears. The first was in 1884 by a correspondent, the 2nd in 1902] There is a movement at the Antipodes to minimise the wreckage caused by ecclesial strifes, by the introduction of a uniform Statement to be called “The Christadelphian Statement of Faith.” As explained by brother Wauchope, of Adelaide, in The Shield for June: “The proposal is to establish a code of propositions and endorse them as a basis for fellowship. Where or to whom,” says he, “shall we look? Already the Christadelphian world has a document known as “The Birmingham Statement of Faith,” which has been very largely adopted. What is required, however, is not a local statement of faith, but one to operate generally, and therefore let that be designated “The Christadelphian Statement of Faith,” as a foundation for fellowship, comprised of the present Birmingham Statement of Faith, together with the Commandments of Christ, and the doctrines to be rejected.” It will be seen that the substance of the Statement in question is accepted as good and true. The only thing objected to is the name, Birmingham. The brother has no sympathy with this objection, but would remove it “because it is looked upon as objectionable by many.” That is not sufficient reason. Nazareth was “looked upon as objectionable by many,” so that one said, “Can any good thing come out of Nazareth?” Yet “Jesus of Nazareth” became the recognised definition of the Lord—not Jesus of Bethlehem, nor Jesus of Jerusalem. And “the sect of the Nazarenes” became the description of the despised brethren of the Man of Sorrows. What if history repeats itself in the latter days, and gives the clerical scribes and Pharisees of an apostate world the opportunity of sneering at “Brummagem religion”? If it had pleased God to make the centre of the truth’s radiations Jerusalem, Rome, Oxford, or Cambridge, He could have done it, and one or other of these names would then have naturally become prominent in that connection. It is suggested that the Birmingham brethren might meet the objections named by removing the word Birmingham. The answer is they have no authority to speak for any community but their own. They say over the head of their 60 propositions: “A Statement of the Faith, forming our Basis of Fellowship.” They cannot say “The Statement . . . forming all the ecclesias” Basis.” They would soon be reminded of this if they attempted it. There are several “churches” in England who have different but equivalent statements. There is no reason why this should not be so; neither is there any reason why an ecclesia should not adopt the “Birmingham Statement” if it sees fit to. The mere objection to the name is unworthy of respect, and will so appear in the day of judgment. Supposing the Christadelphian world had a Uniform Statement of Faith; how much better off would it be on that account than the Church of England with the Thirty-nine Articles, which no man regardeth? What is wanted to secure unity is uniform faith and obedience, and this is only to be developed by the word of God and patient continuance in well doing. Some have said they want no statement but the Bible; but, of course, that is not enough, for all sorts of people would accept that, who do not know the Bible, and, consequently, do not believe and obey. Here the trouble would be, not the lack of a common document, for all would have the Bible, but the lack of a common faith and obedience; and it is so in all cases. Dr. Thomas, many years ago, gave us in The Revealed Mystery his summary of the Christianity revealed in the Bible. This we accept as good and true, and believe the “Birmingham Statement” to be in harmony with it. Some ecclesias in the Colonies took as a basis The Declaration of the Truth. This was never intended for such use; but only as a pioneer pamphlet, introducing the main features of the truth. In the inevitable frictions that have arisen from time to time in the one body throughout the world, the one great desideratum has been unity of mind in affectionate desire to know, and earnest determination to do, the will of God in this age and generation. This is only produced by the Word, and will never be universal this side of the Kingdom of God. In every age the true servants of God have been a mere handful in the midst of professors. We are not to suppose that it will be different in the latter days. And however distressing it may be, it is to be met not so much by new Statements of Faith, as by the patient striving after a new heart and a new spirit, after the example of holy men of old. Our brethren under the Southern Cross will no doubt receive these remarks in the spirit in which they are made. “The Christadelphian Statement of Faith” By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1904, p. 113 Brother R. W. asks us to countenance the movement at the antipodes to “give up the word ‘Birmingham’ and substitute ‘Christadelphian.’” Our answer must be as before: We have no authority so to do. Neither has anyone else. The Birmingham ecclesia can only speak for itself; and it is so with every other ecclesia. We entirely sympathise with every godly effort for unity on a pure basis; but it would be a mistake to issue a document under the above title, because it would imply the right of the issuers to speak for the whole household of faith, which right does not exist. The principle of ecclesial independence must be jealously guarded, and it is the beginnings of things that have to be watched. There is no desire on the part of the Birmingham ecclesia to impose its form of words on any ecclesia; but there can be no valid objection to any ecclesia adopting it if it sees fit. But to adopt this statement and give it a universal title that the Birmingham ecclesia conscientiously refrains from giving it, does not seem to be right at all. If a group of Australian ecclesias desires a common statement, let them accurately define its scope and limitations. We are happily agreed as to the “one faith,” but let us be careful about our definitions. Ecclesiastical history is a warning to us in this respect. 61 Contrast the 1980 to present-day Berean “Unified and Universal” Basis of Fellowship with beliefs of the Birmingham ecclesia in 1904: “But to adopt this statement and give it a universal title that the Birmingham ecclesia conscientiously refrains from giving it, does not seem to be right at all.” The Fermentation of Error By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1911, p. 31 (Excerpt) This list forms part of The Constitution of the Birmingham Christadelphian (Temperance Hall) Ecclesia, in the opening of which they say:— 1.—That we are a Christadelphian ecclesia. 2.—That we accept and profess the doctrines and precepts of Christ, as taught in the apostolic writings, and defined (positively and negatively) in the annexed Statement of Faith and Epitome of the Commandments of Christ. 3.—That we recognise as brethren, and welcome to our fellowship all who have been immersed (by whomsoever) after their acceptance of the same doctrines and precepts. As to the “Statement of Faith” in question, they call it “A statement of THE FAITH forming their basis of fellowship.” They do not call it “THE Christadelphian statement of faith” because they have no authority so to do, nor has any other community. But the apostolic requirement is that Christ’s brethren be “all of one mind” on first principles of faith and practice, and the Lord himself has told us that he is not displeased with intolerance of error and errorists (Rev. 2:2). Longsuffering and patience is one thing, and latitudinarianism is another. Some of the “Doctrines to be Rejected” are cropping up here and there to be accepted. Numbers 4, 5, 17, 27, and one or two others are examples. We shall not give place to these, whatever epithets may be hurled at our heads. We know the history of the Truth sufficiently well to realise how easily it may be lost; and we have no other aim than to “keep the truth” and help others with ourselves to be saved in the Kingdom of God.—ED. Creeds By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1924, p. 29 Some well-meaning brethren are exercising themselves in making new “Christadelphian Statements of the Faith.” We do not refer to any particular instance in these remarks, and the aims and objects are in some cases highly respected by us, though not in others. We do, however, object to any individual or ecclesia issuing a document called “THE Christadelphian Statement of Faith.” There are several such current and none of them with the slightest authority. We should have to have a sort of œcumenical council like the Roman Catholic Church to produce such a document. And when we had got it, how much 62 better off should we be? It is quite open to any ecclesia (as the Birmingham ecclesia) to issue “A Statement of the Faith forming their Basis of Fellowship.” And it is quite unobjectionable for others to adopt the same with or without modifications that do not materially affect its spirit or substance. But do not let any of us suppose for a moment that any such adoption or adaptation is going to make much difference in our troubles. It is the “one mind” on the Word of God that is the great desideratum. It never has obtained upon earth and never will obtain until the Lord abolishes sin and death. Years ago (Feb., 1905, The Christadelphian, pp. 78–80) we made some remarks “Concerning Creeds” in reply to the late Mr. J. B. Rotherham. They are worth reading again now, but are too long to reproduce here. 63 64 Ecclesial Notices and Statements Demonstrating the Autonomy of Early Christadelphian Ecclesias, Their Bases of Fellowship and Fellowship Practices 65 The Christadelphian, 1866, p. 52 THE obedient believers in “the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ” at Nottingham, having lately come through a trial which has left them purified and strengthened in faith, though slightly reduced in numbers, have resolved on placing their church organization on a basis which will secure ecclesiastical individuality and efficiency, and at the same time conserve the faith upon which they are built, so far as organization is capable of doing such a thing. They have adopted the “constitution” which was devised and adopted by the ecclesia in New York in 1853, and published in the Herald of the Kingdom and Age to come for January, 1854, in which, as the reader will see from a perusal of the document subjoined, the master strokes of Dr. Thomas’s pen are clearly evident. This constitution we have been requested by the brethren in Nottingham to publish, so that their position in respect to all parties may become known. The name adopted by the Nottingham brethren as the designation of their association on the basis of the constitution, differs from that chosen twelve years ago by the New York brethren, which was “The Royal Association of Believers, &c.” This name was intended to express the future bearings of the high calling in respect to the position to which the brethren of Christ will be exalted as kings and priests in the age to come; but it has since appeared to the New York brethren, under the guidance of our beloved brother and teacher Dr. Thomas, that it is more expedient to adopt a designation expressive of the present attitude of those who are called in Christ, in relation to the outer world of darkness against which they are called upon to testify and towards which it is their duty to exhibit the light, whether they will hear or whether they will forbear. In accordance with this view, they have taken upon themselves the title of “The Antipas Association of Believers,” &c. The Christadelphian, 1874, p. 388 (Excerpt) GLASGOW – Brother Smith adds: “Brother Nelson has requested us to intimate that an ecclesia has been formed at Airdrie, meeting on the same basis of fellowship as ourselves. It is composed of brother Nelson, Chapelhall, near Airdrie, brother Robert Russell, brother Robert Kerr, of Coatbridge, William Hunter and sister Forsyth, of Airdrie. I have also to mention the death of sister Nelson, wife of brother Nelson, of Chapelhall, who fell asleep on the 23rd of last month, strong in faith, and fully realized that though the body be consumed in the grave, yet in her flesh she shall see God.” The Christadelphian, 1874, p. 436 NOTTINGHAM.—Brother Burton reports that at a special meeting of the ecclesia, held Aug. 2nd, the following resolution was unanimously passed:—“We the immersed believers of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, meeting in the Mechanics’ Lecture Hall, Nottingham, recognising the scripturalness of the statement of the one faith, recently issued by the London ecclesia, and the desirability of having such a defined statement of our faith, hereby adopt the same as our basis of fellowship.” The lectures during the month have been as follows:—Aug. 2nd, “Baptism for the remission of sins” (brother Hodgkinson.); Aug. 9th, “Scripture teaching concerning Jesus of Nazareth” (brother Burton); Aug. 16th, “The great salvation” (brother Richards); Aug. 23rd, “The next dispensation” (Brother Roberts.) The Christadelphian, 1875, p. 525 SHEFFIELD.—Brother Boler reports: “Our ecclesia here has been disturbed for several months, through brother John Savage endeavouring to force upon the brethren the doctrine (from Halifax) which we believe is contrary to the teaching of the word, viz., that Christ had not a free will in the least degree in the matter of his obedience; that he was righteous because he could not be otherwise, from which the rest of us argued that his temptations, and his sufferings, and his obedience were in that case a mockery 66 and not an example to us in any form whatever. Brother Savage was entreated to drop the subject, but he would not be prevailed upon to do so. Therefore, we considered it indispensably necessary to adopt a basis of fellowship containing the following definition:”— “Christadelphians believe and teach that Christ was the Son of God by Mary, a virgin of the house of David, and therefore, God manifested in the flesh, by the Spirit, yet having, as an individual, a seperate and independent will from the Father which he used as intelligently in compliance with his Father’s will as we are asked to use ours, but that, though thus possessing the abstract capability to sin, he rendered a perfect obedience through the strength belonging to him as the Son of God, and was thus fitted to be that sacrifice of a sinless son of Adam which the righteousness of God required, in order that sin might be condemned in a sinless possessor of the very nature of him that offended in Eden, and a propitiation be thus provided for our approach to God from whom sin had severed us.” This basis brother and sister Savage did not agree to after it had been passed, consequently they went out from us. There are also three who have not finally decided what course they will take; also another whom we fear has gone back into the world, and brother McDermott has removed to Halifax, where he is meeting with the brethren, in the Assembly Rooms, Harrison road. The following are the remaining faithful brethren and sisters:— John Dobbs, Joseph Boler, Ann Boler, James Skinner, Henry Leah, John Neale, Henry Graham, Miriam Sorby, Sister Wray, and John Waller. The Christadelphian, 1876, p. 431 SWANSEA. — Brother Messenger reports the immersion of WALTER RENDELL (23). The all important choice of putting on the the saving name of Christ was made early on Sunday morning, the 8th inst., in the presence of several brethren and a few interested friends. Brother Rendell was formerly connected with the Baptists, among whom he was an earnest and regular Sunday School Teacher, and a zealous and popular open-air preacher. The channel through which God’s blessing in bringing brother R. to the knowledge of the truth was conveyed, was the sincerity and constancy of brother Evans’ advocacy of the truth. We hope the truth in his hands will command a fair hearing among the crowds who listened so willingly and patiently to his advanced views whilst a Baptist. From another communication it appears that the division caused some time ago, by the refusal of certain to consent to the adoption of a complete definition of the faith on which they stood, (a division which had been recently healed,) has again ensued from an attempt on the part of those who objected to the statement, to get rid of the statement which had been adopted. Those who abide by the whole truth stated and professed as the basis of the fellowship, are associated with brethren Randles and Evans. The others cannot complain if the friend of the truth elsewhere takes sides with the truth where unmistakeably professed, to whatever personal issues it may lead. For people to say they make the Bible their basis, is not in this day of religious confusion to say enough as regards indicating their whereabouts. Every religious person says he makes the Bible his basis: we find out the truth of his profession by putting to him a definition of what it teaches, and where people are against either putting or submitting to such a definition, it is a sign there is something unsatisfactory at the bottom. At all events, those who take such a position cut themselves off from the faithful friends of the truth.—ED.] The Christadelphian, 1877, p. 332-333 OLDHAM.—Brother Hatton reports that the brethren here have adopted the Birmingham basis of fellowship. They number six: brother and sister Clalford, brother Watson and sister Watson, and brother and sister Hatton, earnestly waiting the appearing of the Master, and praying that they may find acceptance at his hands. 67 The Christadelphian, 1881, p. 456-457 Jersey City, New Jersey, June 20th, 1881. DEAR BROTHER ROBERTS,—I am directed by this ecclesia to forward to you a copy of our “Statement of Faith and Basis of Fellowship,” and to accompany the same with a statement explanatory of our action and position. The members composing the Christadelphian body in this city, after having given up their place of meeting in Franklin Hall, as you are aware, connected themselves with the body meeting in Lundy’s Hall, West Hoboken. Continuous disorder and dissension was the result of this fusion, which, while deleterious in its effects and disheartening to all true brethren of Christ, was patiently but painfully endured, in the hope and desire that matters ultimately might improve. This hope was manifestly not well founded, matters waxed worse and worse, until forbearance ceased to be a virtue. In addition to this, efforts, which many agreed should be made on behalf of the truth, were opposed, and last, but not least, there were false and defective doctrines held and advocated by some. Matters continuing in this condition, it was apparent beyond all doubt, in the interest of peace and harmony, and for the preservation of the truth in its purity and completeness, that a change should be effected, and that a separation from the contentious was absolutely necessary. Accordingly, on Sunday, March 6th, a meeting was called on March 13th, “for the purpose of taking measures for the formation of an ecclesia which shall, in Name and Doctrine fully conform to the Representative Christadelphian Ecclesia, in Birmingham, England.” After an informal expression of views by the several brethren, a committee (composed of Bros. Johnson, Scott, Vredenburgh, Coddington, Washburne, and Seaich) was appointed, “to prepare a statement expressive of our faith, (the same to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth), that is, the unadulterated, unqualified, and uncompromised truth of the gospel of our salvation, viz.:—the ‘One Faith,’ once for all delivered to the saints, and in complete harmony with the doctrine believed and proclaimed by our late brother, Dr. John Thomas (of revered memory), and the Representative Christadelphia Ecclesia, in Birmingham, England, the same to be submitted to the ecclesia for their consideration, which, if approved, shall be recognised as their ‘Statement of Faith and Basis of Fellowship,’ and shall receive their assent, agreement, and signature; and shall also require and receive the same from each and all others who shall seek to fellowship with them.” In accordance with these directions, the said committee, on March 27th, formally presented a document, which, having been fully considered, was duly accepted, and unanimously adopted, and received the signature of every member present. (This document was what might be called an act of incorporation). It set forth, that, “We, the undersigned, do hereby form ourselves into an association, which shall be known as ‘The Christadelphian Ecclesia of Jersey City, New Jersey,’ for the purpose of a weekly remembrance of the Lord Jesus, in the breaking of bread; for the proclamation of ‘the things concerning the Kingdom of God, and the Name of Jesus the Christ;’ and for mutual spiritual edification and encouragement; and to this end to herewith acknowledge the following ‘Statement of Faith’ to be our ‘Basis of Fellowship,’ to which we give our unqualified assent, agreement, and signature.” Here follows a statement of faith and basis of fellowship, “largely compiled,” as the secretary observes, “from the Record of the Birmingham Ecclesia; statements and epitomes made at various times in various published works.” (Any one applying to Bro. Joseph Seaich, Jun., 47, East 31st Street, New York City, N. Y., will be furnished with a printed copy). With the leading features of it our readers are familiar. We subjoin a few extracts of a special character:— Faith and Obedience must be accompanied with and manifested by good works, for as “the body without the spirit (breath) is dead, so faith without works is dead also.” 68 “It is incumbent upon us to render willing obedience to those (secular rulers) who are in authority over us, in all matters which do not conflict with the commandments of our Heavenly Father, when in such event it is our imperative duty to obey God rather than men. It is contrary to the teachings of Christ and his inspired apostles to resist evil, or to take up arms for any purpose whatever. WE REJECT the following theories and dogmas, as making void the Word of God, and being altogether contrary to the “form of sound words” recorded in the scriptures of truth, and we hold no fellowship with any who believe, advocate, or sympathize with them: ‘The Trinity—the Eternal Sonship of Christ—the Personality of the Holy Spirit—the Personality of the Devil—the Immortality of the Soul—No Judgment at the coming of Christ—Immortal Emergence of the just—Bestowal of Incorruptibility or Immortality before Judgment—that Jesus suffered and died as a substitute for man, to appease the wrath of an offended Deity—Heaven the abode of the Righteous— Eternal Torment of the Wicked—Salvation out of Christ—Universal Resurrection—Universal Salvation— Infant Salvation—Infant Baptism—Salvation achieved by Works—‘Renunciationism’ of every form and colour. ‘All intelligently immersed believers in the things concerning the Kingdom of God and the Name of Jesus the Christ.’ who ‘walk worthy of the high calling to which they have been called,’ and who shall give their unqualified assent, agreement, and signature to our ‘Statement of Faith and Basis of Fellowship’ shall be eligible to membership in this Ecclesia. ‘All persons of good report, resident in this city, or visitors from abroad, who have been immersed upon an intelligent profession of their faith, in the ‘things concerning the Kingdom of God and the Name of Jesus the Christ,’ who shall give their unqualified assent, agreement, and signature to our ‘Statement of Faith and Basis of Fellowship,’ are cordially invited to participate with us in our order of worship. No persons shall be entitled to, or receive our fellowship in the truth, who, while they may themselves believe and ‘declare the whole counsel of God,’ and are in every respect unobjectionable in their own persons, yet join themselves to, or fellowship with others who ‘consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness,’ (from whom we are commanded to withdraw ourselves), and reject or deny any portion of our ‘Statement of Faith and Basis of Fellowship.’ The Christadelphian, 1882, p. 45 Grantham – Brother Brooke, whose immersion was notified last month, goes to Wolverhampton. It has been decided to have “Finger Posts” down monthly, and stamp the name of the room on them. We are continuing the lectures as heretofore, with the assistance of Bro. Richards, of Nottingham, and Bro. Royce, of Peterborough. I omitted to notify that we sometime back adopted the London Basis of Fellowship; we find it very useful when examining candidates.—JOHN T. HAWKINS. The Christadelphian, 1882, p. 94 SYDNEY.—Brother Hawkins reports the obedience of ARCHER O’TOOLE (18) and LAURENCE O’TOOLE (20), sons of Brother and Sister O’Toole, JOHN EVAN GOFF (48), formerly lay preacher in a “Gospel Tent” (an auxiliary mission); he was very difficult to convince that his gospel was not the Gospel of God, but at last he saw the light; JULIA GOFF (22), daughter of the above, and HENRY HOWELL (32), son of Bro. D. Howell. (These cases of obedience were reported in a previous communication, but in some way overlooked.) Since our last writing, MARGARET REID (24), now wife of Brother W. Ferguson, and, lastly, SUSAN KENNEDY (40), have obeyed the truth. 69 Our number has also been increased by various removals to Sydney, viz., Brother R. G. Burton, from Dunedin, N.Z.; Brother and Sister J. S. Hawkins, from Burrawang, N. S. W.; Brother Samuel Hawkins, from the same place; and Brother W. H. Payne, and Sisters S. A. and L. S. Bower, from Birmingham, who safely arrived here September 22nd. So the Sydney ecclesia now numbers over fifty souls, and our basis of fellowship is identical with that of the Birmingham ecclesia. We still meet at the Masonic Temple, Clarence Street, morning and evening. About a month ago, a discussion came off between a Mr. Picton (Cambellite) and Brother Bayliss, on the question, “Has the Kingdom of Heaven come?” and a week after, another on the question, “Did Jesus Christ exist before his birth of the Virgin Mary?” Mr. Picton affirming, and the present writer denying. The attendance each night was about 200, and no doubt these efforts attract some attention to the truth.—J. J. HAWKINS. The Christadelphian, 1882, p. 330-331 Abergavenny – There is a small ecclesia, numbering about thirty, at this place, meeting in the Christadelphian Synagogue, erected by themselves, some two or three years since. Believing that the “Declaration” sets forth, in a concise form, the leading features of the faith which justifies, and, accepting this as an epitome of their basis of fellowship, there has for some time past been a growing desire on their part to be in co-operation with the brethren and sisters of whom the Christadelphian is the recognized periodical. This has now taken a definite shape. Brother Henry Turner, of Birmingham, being in the neighbourhood, on his business rounds, met the leading brethren, by appointment, and, after some conversation, there was found to be no barrier to fellowship. He, therefore, broke bread with them, on Sunday, May 20, and lectured in the evening to a good audience. The ecclesia will be glad if any lecturing brethren passing to or from South Wales, via Abergavenny, will call.—W. BEDDOES. The Christadelphian, 1882, p. 330-331 Dundee – We have rented a Hall in a central part of the town (72, Overgate), where we meet every first day for worship, and will be glad to have the fellowship of any honest minded brother or sister, who at any time may be in this neighbourhood. We have adopted the Edinburgh basis of fellowship, and their rules for ecclesial affairs for our guidance so far as practicable in our circumstances. We have also a midweek meeting on Thursday evenings at eight o’clock, for the study of the Scriptures, and a school for children on Sunday afternoons, which will help to keep us profitably employed while waiting the Great Deliverer.—J. MORTIMER. The Christadelphian, 1882, p. 480 LOWELL (MASS).—“I have to report the formation of an ecclesia here, consisting of the following: Brethren Henry Hoyle, Samuel Evison, Robert Judd; Sisters Mary Evison, and Ellen Judd. Bro. Hoyle is, I believe, the first who has been brought to a knowledge of the truth in Lowell. He was examined and immersed Sunday, August 13th, by Brother Evison in the presence of Brother Gray, of Lawrence; several brethren and sisters came to admit him to fellowship. We held a meeting on Wednesday evening and adopted the New Jersey statement of faith and basis of fellowship, and resolved to meet at 10.30 a.m. every first day for breaking of bread at Brother Evison’s, where any brother or sister, coming this way, will be welcome.”—ROBERT JUDD. 70 The Christadelphian, 1883, p. 96 SPOTTSVILLE (KY.)—Brother R. C. Green writes:—Dr. Thomas introduced the truth here some 30 years ago. The good seed soon sprang up, and prospered till the no judgment doctrine came. This caused great trouble among the brethren at the time, and came very near destroying the influence of the truth in a public way. A few, however, remained who, though not in harmony, continued to meet and break bread. A great effort was made on the part of some to hush the matter and prevent further discussion, and thus things have remained, with only an occasional outbreak, until recently. The question of the nature of Jesus, which created so much trouble in England in “1873,” created some little stir, but was not regarded as a matter of much importance, the brethren for the most part, however, inclining to the free life theory. Since “1879,” the two subjects have again been brought before the ecclesia, causing some of us to resolve to unite ourselves on a surer basis of fellowship. With a view to this end, on the eighth of October, 1882, an agreement was presented to the brethren, setting forth that we, the undersigned, agree that the (published) statement of the “one faith” upon which the Birmingham ecclesia is founded, is true and Scriptural, and that the fables specified therein should be rejected, that the above should constitute the basis of fellowship among believers of the truth, and that we hereby withdraw from fellowship with all who will not endorse the above by signing this agreement. This was signed by Jas. W. Griffin, L. M. Griffin, E. J. Griffin, A. T. Green, W. J. Green, R. C. Green, Mary J. Griffin, Sallie E. Lester, Patsie M. Griffin, E. W. Pruitt, Elizabeth Butler, Virginia A. Butler, Sue F. Green, Bettie Cosby, Oma Griffin, J. E. Griffin, W. J. Connaway, G. P. Pruitt. Since the recent agitation previonsly mentioned, the following named brethren, becoming dissatisfied with their former immersion, have been reimmersed: J. E. Griffin, Jas. W. Griffin, E. J. Griffin, G. P. Pruitt, E. W. Pruitt, Elizabeth Butler, Virginia A. Butler, Bettie Cosby, Omia Griffin. Brother Jas. W. Griffin, who has been a devout member of the ecclesia since its earliest existence, made a very interesting and impressive address at the water’s edge, explanatory of his present action. Brother Pruitt and Sister Elizabeth Butler expressed themselves in a similar manner privately. The Christadelphian, 1883, p. 144 BOSTON (MASS).—Brother Mackellar reports the return of Brother Edmund Edgecomb; also Brother Philip Brown, who came from Edinburgh, Scotland, nine months ago, but who was led to believe that we were not sound in doctrine, and that there were among us certain that were not fit to associate with. “Brother Brown has come to the conclusion that his informers have been misleading him, and he now rejoices in being united to the body of Christ in Boston; also Sister Elizabeth Seaborn, who met with us on Sunday for the first time since her return from Canada. We are truly grateful to the Deity for the above results, especially as there has been an enemy among us who have tried to cause schism. We are keeping the truth before the Boston public. Several are reading Twelve Lectures. We have adopted the statement and basis of fellowship of Birmingham, as the rules, with slight alterations, are better suited to our circumstances.” The Christadelphian, 1884, p. 479 AUCKLAND.—We have received a copy of the Ecclesial Guide, and are pleased to find in its pages such an amount of useful information in so concise a form. We think it will supply a want very much felt in these far distant parts of the world, and at our half-yearly meeting we resolved to use it as our rule book, as far as it meets our ecclesial requirements, and also as our basis of fellowship the statement of doctrines contained in it.—We are not growing very fast in numbers as our means for spreading the truth are very limited, and on account of the great distance we live apart, we only meet once a week, but still we have occasion now and then to rejoice over some one obeying the truth. Yesterday we assisted ELIZABETH ANN WRIGHT (23), to put on the saving name in the appointed way.—At the present time New 71 Zealand is in the throes of a general election, and we cannot help noticing the clayey element of the ruling power now-a-days. May the time soon come when we shall have the power concentrated in one despot, holy and true, who will nominate his own assistant rulers.—ALBERT TAYLOR. The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 376-377 Birmingham.—During the month obedience has been rendered to the truth by BEATRICE BETTS (20), formerly a Campbellite. Bro. J. Thomas has removed to Newport, Mon., where the brethren are delighted to have his company and help in the truth. During the month we have been visited by sister Barton, sen., of Sydney, Australia, and her husband. It is 30 years since they emigrated from Mansfield. They return to New South Wales in a few months.—A proposal has been made that the Temperance Hall brethren should recognise those who are separated from them, in an ecclesial capacity. The way will be open for the favourable consideration of this if the latter should see their way to accept the complete inspiration of the Scriptures as a first principle in their basis of fellowship, which they will not compromise by association with partial inspiration.—The Sunday School is suspended for July.—Our next tea meeting is on Monday, August 3rd (brethren and sisters only), followed, on Wednesday, August 5th, by the Sunday School treat, Sutton Park. The children on this occasion will take tea in the park and return to the Temperance Hall for the distribution of prizes about 8 o’clock. The Christadelphian, 1890, p. 356 Cardiff – On Sunday, August 10th, after the lecture, a meeting of the ecclesia was called (at which not more than half the members attended) to consider and decide upon an amended declaration as a basis of fellowship, which had been proposed by myself. In this declaration, the Scriptures, as originally given by God, were recognised as wholly inspired and infallible in all their parts, and our Bible accepted as a fair representation of these Scriptures, and a requirement made that assent to the above be given by all seeking their fellowship. The presiding brother announced that the managing brethren recommended that no change be made in the existing resolution. It was proposed by brother Collins, and seconded by brother Searles (their secretary), that my resolution be adopted. An amendment was proposed and seconded that no change be made. This amendment was adopted, with three dissentients, after a desultory discussion, in which it came out that the managing brethren were perfectly contented with the existing state of things, and considered a change now would be a reflection upon the past, and that a great objection was felt to the introduction of the word “infallible,” because it “emanated from Birmingham, and was not a Bible term.” And so we have the melancholy spectacle of brethren professing privately their belief in a wholly inspired and infallible Bible, stultifying themselves as an ecclesia, and proving conclusively thereby that their professed belief in the infallibility of the Scriptures is at least not very deep-seated. We shall now endeavour (God willing) to establish an ecclesia in Cardiff upon a proper basis. For the last two months I have antagonised the Mormons (who have a considerable following here), and the noisy, frothy members of the Y.M.C.A., and proclaimed the Truth every Sunday evening (when the weather permitted) in a large open space in Canton Street, to big crowds who had never heard it before, and much interest has been excited and opposition provoked by the clear, plain statements of the Bible. May Yahweh grant that the seed sown bring forth fruit to His honour and glory, and that the Son of His love be quickly revealed, taking vengeance on His enemies, and rewarding His servants the prophets and them that fear his Name.—E. GRIMES. 72 The Christadelphian, 1891, p. 33 Cannock (See Dudley) – Brother Jackson reports that the following have been compelled to make a stand in defence of the entire inspiration and infallibility of the Bible:—Brother and sister S. Dawes, brother and sister Jackson, senior (the latter after several weeks neutrality), brother and sister Jackson, junior, brother and sister Barker, sister Morgan, sister Cooper, brother Rider. These have made the Birmingham statement their basis of fellowship, and are meeting at brother Jackson’s house to remember Christ and to help one another in the race for life. Brother Jackson says: “The result is a trying and sorrowful one, supplemented as it is by a trial of (especially to myself) a far more searching character. I allude to the sudden death at the Birmingham tea meeting of the one who has shared my joys and sorrows and been my companion in the truth for about 17 years, which event happened only a few days after she had decided not to tolerate corrupt doctrines concerning the Scriptures. The blow is a staggering one to me, and requires a supreme effort of faith in the reality of the ‘far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory’ to enable me to look upon it as a ‘light affliction.” 73 74 The State of the Mortal Ecclesias How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. And of some have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. Jude 18-23 75 Eureka (“the saints are a mixed community”) By bro. John Thomas (Excerpt from volume 5, p. 80-82) In all the "times of the Gentiles" the saints are a mixed community, in which are found fish of all sorts, good, bad, and indifferent. The good are answerable to the "few who are chosen," and find eternal life (Matt. 20:16; 7:14): while the bad and indifferent are those who "begin in the Spirit" and end in the flesh—those who at the outset of their career seemed to "run well," but were hindered from a "patient continuance in well-doing," or "obeying the truth," in being "bewitched" by the sorcery of designing knaves, who "by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple" (Gal. 3:1,3,7; Rom. 16:18). In our generation, as in that of the apostles, the ecclesia, or general assembly of the many, who are called, is composed of these heterogeneous materials. It has been thus in all generations before and since Satan, in the days of Job, mingled with the Sons of the Deity, when they presented themselves in the Divine presence (Job 1:6). The satanic element has ever been among them with its "depths as they speak" (ch. 2:24), corrupting and perverting the weak. In the wisdom of the Deity, Satan has been permitted to practise, and to deceive the hearts of the simple, who are "ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (2 Tim. 3:7), without judicial interference. The Satanic element in an ecclesia is always prompt and vivacious for mischief. If it fears to attack openly the most prominent advocate of the truth, it has recourse to underhanded and secret influences. Handling the word of the Deity deceitfully, "deceiving, and being deceived", are its characteristics. While inspired with personal hatreds, it affects zeal for the truth in destroying it, or making it of none effect, by the traditions of its monstrous ignorance and folly. Yet "the Judge of the living and the dead" is profoundly silent save in the word of his law and testimony. There are reasons for this. The truth as it is in Jesus is entrusted to the ecclesia, or House of the Deity, which is "the Pillar and foundation support of the truth". The members of this house are held responsible and accountable for their relations to this, as a treasure committed to them to be contended for earnestly, and to be upheld at all hazards, in their day and generation. This house being furnished with vessels of all sorts, some to honor and some to dishonor, the truth receives a characteristic treatment at the hands of each sort. The vessels fitted to capture and destruction set forth traditions, or heresies, which nullify the Word. If men speak or write upon the things of the Spirit, they are commanded to do so "as the oracles of the Deity;" and if they disobey this injunction, it is because "there is no light in them". Nevertheless, they will give utterance to their folly. This cannot be helped. Fools will be fools come what may. From these premises it is inevitable that, as Paul says, "there must be heresies among you". They are permitted to exist, though not approved. Their existence arouses the flagging energies of sterling and faithful men, "who are able to teach others" (2 Tim. 2:2). It sets them to contending more earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints (Jude 2), which manifests them as the approved, who are grounded and settled in the faith, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel (ICor. 11:19; Col. 1:23). This manifestation of the approved after this process is one reason why Yahweh keeps silence, and permits Satan to continue their operations among the Sons of the Deity, without any present judicial interference. There is also another very good reason for present non-intervention, and this is, because He has appointed a set time, styled by that infallible and incomparable exponent of the truth the Lord Jesus, "a Day of Judgment," hemera kriseos (Matt. 12:36); and by the no less accurate Paul, "THE DAY when the Deity shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to the gospel" Paul preached: "therefore," saith he, "judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come; who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts;" and "who will judge the living and the dead at his appearing and kingdom" (Rom. 2:16; 1 Cor. 4:5; 2 Tim. 4:1) and styled by the earnest and faithful Peter, "the Day of Inspection", hemera episcopes (1 Pet. 2:12) "the time that the 76 judgment begins at the house of the Deity" (ch. 4:17); when, as James testifies, the saints shall be judged by the law of liberty (ch. 2:12). These are two all-sufficient reasons why the Satan should be Providentially tolerated among the sons of the Deity, until the Ancient of Days come. "Now is the day of salvation," says Paul; but this, in effect, the Satan denies. He turns it into a day of judgment, saying, that there is no other day of judgment for the saints than this. Satan, of course, exceedingly dislikes the idea of being judged, and rewarded according to his works. He does not approve of the doctrine of eternal life based upon an inspection of faith and practice after resurrection. He demands resurrection with immortality, not resurrection unto eternal life. He wants to spring out of the dust immortal, and no questions asked; for he knows very well, that neither his faith nor his practice will bear the light. Be this, however, as it may, his pleasure and satisfaction will not be consulted. Inspection and its consequences begin at the house of the Christ: and Satan, who had received the one talent, and was afraid of the truth, and hid it in the earth, is purged out as a wicked and slothful servant from among the sons of the Deity; and cast into the darkness of the outer world, where weeping and gnashing of teeth are the order of both day and night (Matt. 25:14-30; Apoc. 14:11). Letter From Dr. Thomas By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1866, p. 222-223 (Excerpt) They have a custom in Norfolk and Richmond in the memorializing of the bringing into force the Abrahamic covenant by the death of its Mediatorial Testator, which is peculiar to themselves. The table, say they, is the Lord’s, not their’s. He brake the bread and GAVE it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat. Christ not being here in person to break it. “His body, the Ecclesia,” breaks it instead—takes and eats. Each one rises, walks to the table, and helps himself. By this custom, they relieve themselves of the responsibility of handing the elements to those who might be improper persons. Whoever rises and takes it does so on his or her own responsibility. If unworthy, they eat and drink to their own condemnation, not to the condemnation of those who protest against the fitness of persons eating who are not in the faith; or who, being in, do not walk worthy of God and the high vocation to which he has called them. With them, therefore, the breaking and eating is not a test of fellowship. They hand it to no one, and withhold it from none. If traitors to the faith like Judas, or immersed sinners, eat it, so much the worse for them; their test of fellowship is not the eating of bread, but “walking in the light as the Deity is in the light, and so having fellowship one with another” (1 John, 1:7, ) which is the only true ground of fellowship exhibited in the word. I returned to Baltimore on July 25th, and spoke next evening at Entaw Hall. On the Friday following, I left for New York. The next Sunday I spoke at 24, Cooper Institute, and afterwards assisted at the baptism of three men and three women. I am now at home for a few days; and if I were to follow my inclination, I would leave it no more until death or the Lord come. I like to be with faithful brethren; but to talk to a stupid, besotted, and gainsaying world on divine things is like fruitlessly squandering one’s vitality and time and beating the air. Next week I am off for Toronto; thence to Detroit, Milwaukie, Ogle Co., Illinois, Henderson, Ky., Hayfield Pa., and then home about the first week in October, to resume the preparation of Eureka III. As to your enquiry how I am “off financially,” I reply that brethren in divers remote parts of the earth, under the conviction that I cannot write, speak, travel, and exist on air alone; and that if I could, there is no obligation resting upon me so to sacrifice time, strength, and information for their benefit, without their enjoying the privilege of co-operation, in what they regard a work of faith and labour of love, 77 furnish me occasionally spontaneous and unprompted supplies, which, on the principle you note, that “a lot of littles make a mickle,” have hitherto been sufficient. As yet I have had no occasion to make spermological appeals to the brethren, such as I see in the Auld Reekie Messenger for July, and trust I never shall. I do not sit at home compounding quack lozenges or salves, taking “a view of the idea of trying to present the gospel to the city of Boston,” or any other city! What an unsubstantial view! The brethren at large have more sense than to enter upon such a speculation. If I had occupied the past thirty years in “having a view of the idea of trying to present the gospel,” I should not have been able to answer your question as above. Without waiting to “interest the brethren at large,” in such a ghost of an idea, I communed not with flesh and blood, for I had no brethren at large, but went at the work, which developed what you know and see, and hear on every side. A creature that waits for cash, merely viewing an idea, is not fit for any good work. If the truth be really in a man, he will be up and doing as opportunity serves. His self-denying labour will commend itself, and he will be sought after, and have more work than he can do. We have no hirelings among us in this country. By us, I do not mean Adventists, “the brethren in the West,” and such like. I mean among Christ’s brethren. I do not know of any; nor do I think they will fall into such an error. All effort is spontaneous, and without bargain, recompensed according to the sense of benefit received, and not the self-assessed, supposed ability of the receiver. The brethren in Worcester will look after Boston when the time comes. If “the brethren at large” wish the gospel introduced into that city of the Pharisees, they cannot do better than to communicate with them, rather than hiring a mere self-seeking speculator in ghostly ideas. There had better continue to be no gospel at all in a city if the gospel is to be disgraced and put to shame by unreliable and conceited pretenders. I perceive that G. Dowie, at length in effect, confesses the true character of The Messenger of the Churches. He says: “There have been so many papers of late on out-of-the-way, weird topics, of which the present number of the Messenger contains a full share,” &c; that he calls for articles “of a sunnier character.” It is truly a weird concern! Weird signifies “skilled in witchcraft” Weird topics are subjects of discourse, skilled in witchcraft. This is the meaning of the phrase as nearly as it can be got at. It may indeed be expressed by the word sorcery, which is divination by the assistance, or supposed assistance, of “evil spirits.” Weird topics in their elaboration are divination by evil spirits. The evil spirits are the writers; and the divination their guessings and conjectures, in which they “discuss everything and settle nothing.” We learn from the said Dowie that his miscalled Messenger of the Churches is full of sorcery— therefore a Messenger of Sorcery! Surely I have not been uncharitable in styling it the Messenger of Satan! If sorcery do not belong to Satan, to whom is it to be assigned? Sorceries belong to the rest of the men who repent not (Rev. 9:20, 21, ) and by which they deceive the people.—(Rev. 18:23.) “Churches” that endorse and sustain a messenger full of weird topics are deceived communities, and no better than “the names” of which the Gentile scarlet-coloured beast is full.—(Rev. 18:3.) Surely such a messenger if he were ever alive, should be put to death according to the law in Lev. 20:27. The Flying Roll, the Ephah, the Woman, the Talent of Lead, and the Two Women… By bro. John Thomas The Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1858, p. 125-126 (Excerpt) But in John's day, the Jews of the Church were divisible into two classes; first, those who were Jews inwardly, without regard to flesh, and secondly, those who said they were Jews, but were liars. The first class were in scriptural fellowship with the apostle, but rapidly falling into the minority, so that in Sardis, for example, only "a few names" remained undefiled. It was the second class of Jews that constituted the 78 great majority of those who passed current by the name of Christian. It was these who labored indefatigably in building a house for the Harlot of the Ephah. They became a powerful political faction in the land of the enemy, and having found a warrior to their mind in Constantine, they placed themselves under his leadership, and in A.D. 324 became the sole ruling power "in the land of Shinar," as defined. Interesting Communication From Dr. Thomas (The True Apostolic Succession) The Christadelphian, 1869, p. 44-45 (Excerpt) Paul saith “the ecclesia of the living God is the pillar and firm support of the truth.” What are styled “the churches” and “the church” by professors and non-professors, are not the ecclesia of the Deity: they are not therefore, “the pillar and support of the truth.” The ecclesia is an association of individuals, who having received an invitation to God’s kingdom and glory, have accepted it, in being immersed “into the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.” Being thus called out from among the Gentiles, it is Scripturally styled ecclesia—the body of Christ’s Brethren, joint heirs with him of God’s kingdom and glory. This, the One Body, is the true and only apostolic succession; the divinely provided instrumentality for the proclamation of the gospel, in all the generations, from “the end of the age,” to the appearing of Christ again in the day of his power.” All societies called churches, beyond the pale of the ecclesia, are nothing else than “synagogues of Satan,” whose orders “say they are apostles, but are not; having been found liars by brethren of the Ephesian type—Rev. 2:2; and had these spurious apostles reigned in past ages, without the antagonism and active opposition of the “faithful men” of the ecclesia of the living God, “able to teach others” the Pauline gospel, “the truth as it is in Jesus” would have been as non-existent in all the world, as it is now at the Royal Chapel at Windsor, the St. Peter’s of the Seven Hills, or in all the “Names and Denominations of Christendom,” apocalyptically styled “Names of Blasphemy,” and “Harlots and Abominations of the earth.”—(Rom. 17:3, 5.) “The Christadelphians,” of whom our divine friend and teacher of Greek, does not seem to think much, are the last of the generations of the ecclesia of the Living God, in its conflict with the Laodicean apostacy in Romish and Protestant manifestation. The Christadelphian body contains within its pale “faithful men who are able to teach others” the doctrine of the Old and New Testaments. Like as it was in the apostolic ecclesias, there may be within its pale “unreasonable and wicked men”—men of “good words and fair speeches, whereby they deceive the hearts of the simple;” but then, these do not give character to a body, any more than a few rotten teeth determine the corporeal soundness of an individual. All genuine Christians who breathe the breath of life, are of this body, although they may not have heard of the name “Christadelphian;” nevertheless, they cannot be genuine Christians and be ignorant of the thing imported by the word. Can such a Christian be adduced who is yet ignorant that he has the high honour of being a son of the Lord God Almighty, and therefore a brother of Jesus Christ? This is the import of the Anglicised Greek name Christadelphian. Our divine friend, the teacher of Greek, will therefore perceive that Christadelphians are not of recent appearance in the world. On the contrary, they were coeval with the apostles. The apostles themselves were Christadelphians before “they were called Christians at Antioch.” Hence, the Lord Jesus said, in effect, that he would be with Christadelphians to the end of the age. And has he not been with them ever since? Yea, verily; their living and active, and anti-clerical existence in this cloudy and dark day, is a demonstration of it in fact. The earnest and faithful men of the Christadelphian body, who walk not after the flesh, are the true apostolic succession in this the nineteenth century generation of it. “Christ dwells in their hearts by faith” (Eph. 3:17)—by an intelligent belief of the truth concerning him who is the truth—therefore they know that Christ is “with them;” and being with them, they are not afraid to do battle with the false apostles of the apostacy, with all their tail 79 of Beast and Image-worshippers; and with all the teachers of Chinese, Icelandic, and Greek, who may figure in the coccygeal extremity thereof. They can do all things necessary to be done in this war through the spirit, which is the spirit that strengtheneth them.—(Phil. 4:13; 1 John 5:6.) The testimony which they bear is the last effort of the ecclesia of the Deity—the last warning voice before the epiphany of Christ. As for the clergy, their case is hopeless. They cannot believe, because they seek not the honour that cometh from God only.—(John 5:44); the goats whom they lead into the ditch, even “the last ditch,” cannot believe, because they are not of Christ’s sheep—(Jno. 10:26); his sheep know his voice, and a stranger will they not follow.—(v. 4.) This voice is the truth. The clerical hirelings, and those who pay them to prophesy smooth things to them, have no ears; that is, they are deaf to his voice, because they are not of God.—(John 8:47.) Christ gives eternal life to as many as the Father has given him, and to no more.—(John 17:2.) The clergy and their co-worshippers of the beast are not included in this divine donation, because there hath not been written from the foundation of the world in the Lamb’s book of life the names of such,—(Rev. 13:8; 21:27.) The names of those that have been inscribed there, are of those who know the Father, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he sent,—(Jno. 17:3); or as Paul expresses it, “who know God, and obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ,”—(2 Thess. 1:8); all not of this class are workers of abomination, lovers and inventors of lies,—(Rev. 21:27; 22:15); and for such, the lake of fire burning with brimstone, will be kindled when judgment shall be given, and executed by the saints: woe betide the clergy then!—(Rev. 20:15; 19:20; Dan. 7:22.) To Sardis By bro. Robert Roberts Thirteen Lectures on the Apocalypse, p. 23-24 "He that bath the seven Spirits of God "—the symbolic affirmation of omniscience—has little to say in the way of commendation to the brethren in Sardis. "Thou hast a name that thou livest and art dead." Men knew the reputation of the Sardian ecelesia: the possessor of "the seven stars "—the seven Spirit lights kindled in the seven ecclesias, knew their state. "I have not found thy works perfect before God." Jesus watches and discerns the developments of probation. He requires not to bring men to the judgment seat to know, though he will bring them there to reveal them. There were a few exceptions in Sardis: "Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments, and they shall walk with me in white, for they are worthy;" from which we learn that membership in a dead ecclesia will not interfere with individual acceptance where worthiness exists. Even those who are lacking have an opportunity which they are exhorted to use. "Be watchful, and strengthen the things that remain which are ready to die, “Repent." There is this encouragement to repentance: "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment, and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father and before His angels." The white investiture is readily recognizable in that clothing of the mortal body with immortality from heaven, of which all accepted saints are to be the subjects at the Lord's coming. The righteousness of the saints is said to be the meaning of the " fine linen, clean and white," with which the symbolic bride is arrayed ; but this cannot be the meaning of the white raiment, because the white raiment is promised as the recompence of the righteousness (or overcoming), and, therefore, cannot be the righteousness itself. It is a fit symbol of the pure incorruptible that will result front the transforming action of the Spirit of God upon the mortal bodies of the saints who stand before Christ accepted. Of course it is not literal; white raiment of this sort could be purchased at the milliner's. There may, however, be a blending of the symbolical and the literal. That is to say, the immortalised saints may wear white clothing. The angels, to whom they are to be equal, almost always appeared habited in white (Matt. xxviii. 3; Acts x. 30, &c.), and the garments of Jesus in 80 transfiguration, became "white and glistening, so as no fuller on earth could white them." The apparel of the immortal state is an interesting matter of detail, but not of practical moment. The thing that is of practical moment is the fact that it is possible for a man's name to be blotted from the book of life, that is, expunged from the divine recognition as an heir of eternal life, after having once sustained that relation. Jesus promised to the Sardian ecclesia that this should not happen in the case of such as overcome, but that they should be confessed by him before the Father and the angels. This is an honour the greatness of which we cannot estimate because it is yet unseen, but which will be appreciated at its true greatness when the hour arrives for the muster of the chosen and the inauguration in glory in the presence of multitudes of the angelic host and the manifested glory of the Father. “There were a few exceptions in Sardis: 'Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments, and they shall walk with me in white, for they are worthy;' from which we learn that membership in a dead ecclesia will not interfere with individual acceptance where worthiness exists.” – Robert Roberts Letter From Dr. Thomas By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1866, p. 204-205 (Excerpt) WEST HOBOKEN, HUDSON Co., NEW JERSEY, JULY 30th, 1866. DEAR BROTHER ROBERTS, Yours of March 5th and April 24th have been duly received; also the Ambassadors to July inclusive, and the report of your discussion with one of Satan’s ministers. Many hindrances have interposed, preventing an earlier reply. To shew you, however, that the delay was not through indifference, I may state that I took the said letters with me on my visit to Philadelphia and Baltimore, intending to answer them while there; but the weather was so intensely hot—from 95° to 100° in the shade—that it was as much as I was equal to, to do what public and private speaking turned up, without the fatigue of sitting at a desk or table to think of many things, and to condense much that might be said into as few written words as possible. Therefore, I brought the letters home again unanswered; and, as the heat has moderated, and being stationary a few days, I have determined to make an effort to do what may present itself to be done. The doing of it, however, will not be as pleasant as I could wish, owing to an hereditary disability affecting my left arm and hand, developed since 1862. You may see from the uncaligraphic evidence before you the nature of the affection. The mechanical operation of guiding the pen is positively disagreeable. It is a nervous affection of the arm that makes writing exceedingly burdensome. I entirely agree with you in your graphic description of the barrenness of Christadelphia. Yet dry and withering as things appear within its limits, all exterior to it is scorched and destitute of any vitality at all. The Christadelphian Body in the days of the apostles abounded with professors whose hearts were but little attuned to the faith and hope they professed. Peter styles them washed hogs; and Paul, as little complimentary of them as he, terms them, “liars, evil beasts, and slow bellies.” These were creatures who had “crept in unawares,” and “spoke evil of those things which they understood not;” clouds they were without water, carried about of winds of doctrine, and sporting themselves with their own deceivings, by which they beguiled unstable souls, and brought “the way of truth” into disrepute. The influence of these, who passed themselves off for Christadelphians, was more disheartening to the 81 apostles, and the rest of the real brethren of Christ, than all the opposition that Satan could bring to bear upon them from without. Their influence was great, yea, strong enough to turn multitudes from the truth to fables, even to old wives’ fables; and, as a consequence, to alienate them from the apostles, who had before turned them from pagan darkness, and the power of Satan. They were an element of the One Body, answering to sin in the flesh, which cannot be eradicated till this corruptible shall put on incorruptibility, and this mortal shall put on immortality. They were the occasion of great vexation and mortification to the apostles, whose work of faith and labour of love they neutralized, and rendered, to a great extent, ineffectual. They were zealous. They “zealously affected” the brethren, “but not well.” Their zeal was not for the honour and promotion of the truth as taught by the apostles; but for the development of a theology that should be more acceptable to flesh and blood, and profitable to themselves. “The truth as it is in Jesus” was too exclusive and uncharitable for their piety and liberality of soul. It was too “sectarian;” and they were terribly afraid of being made responsible for those characteristics deemed odious by the fashionable religionists of their day, which were inseparable from “the sect everywhere spoken against.” The way of salvation taught by this sect was too narrow for them. They wanted a broader way, whereby some good, pious souls might be saved, who did not belong to the apostolic sect or party. The apostles were too sectarian for their benevolence and universal philanthropy. Their large hearts could not be bounded by so sectarian a dogma as, that only those could obtain eternal life who affectionately believed the gospel of the kingdom, were immersed, and continued in the teaching of the apostles. This made no provision for babes and sucklings, and pious Jews who assented to the truth, but did not approve of so sectarian an institution as baptism. Were all these to be damned because they didn’t see things as Paul did; and because they had not been dipped? He that believeth the gospel and is baptised shall be saved; and he that believeth not shall be condemned. This is the oracle of the Founder of the Sect. It is eminently “sectarian;” and whoever is faithful to it must, and can only be sectarian; and so sectarian were the apostles, that they turned all over to cursing, when the Lord comes, who did not believe and do according to the principles of the sect. “They lost their lives in labouring to establish, in all its alleged exclusiveness, illiberality and sectarianism.” Do you expect poor, decrepid, human nature to evolve holier influences now, than it was socially capable of under an apostolic ministration of spirit? I believe you do not. It would be very pleasant if there were none in Christadelphia but the called, the faithful, and the chosen; all of one mind, and “with one mind and one mouth glorifying God.” If all understood the truth, and were governed by it, who profess to believe it, there would be a very different state of things to what has obtained in any age or generation, past or present. But ecclesiastical perfection is not to be expected in the absence of Christ. Till he comes, the wheat will be mingled with the tares in such proportion as to keep the faithful in tribulation and the exercise of patience. The kingdom of the heavens preached is still, parabolically, a net cast into the sea, and gathering all sorts of fish, good, bad, and indifferent. When the net is full, it is landed on to shore, and its contents are sorted by the master. All the good fish are gathered into vessels for his use, but the bad are cast away. This arrangement cannot be altered. The good and bad fish will continue to swim in the same waters until the end comes, and that end, it is to be hoped, is very near; for it is by no means pleasant or comfortable to swim in waters full of sharks and serpents of the sea. I am glad you like Eureka II. It is a satisfaction to know that one’s labour is not altogether ill-bestowed. There are many who profess to be interested in the Apocalypse, who have no desire to know, or, at least, do not manifest a desire to know, whether it sets forth a scriptural exposition or not. I am glad to find that there are so many more exceptions to this class in Britain than I expected. But neither Eureka nor its author can ever become popular so long as the present order of things lasts. When the truth becomes popular, then their fortune will change; till then, the names of the book and its author must be sought for in the index expurgatorices of the names and denominations which fill the scarlet-coloured beast of Christendom, so called in the index of the proscribed. 82 The Depths of the Satan as they Speak By bro. John Thomas Eureka, Vol. 1 page 334 (Excerpt) But all among the Thyatirans were not impressible by the arts and blandishments of Jezebel and her children. “The rest” were a faithful remnant who repudiated her teaching, and “the depths” which they prescribed. We need not repeat here what has been already adduced concerning “the Satan;” but we may add to this, that the sentence, “the depths of the Satan as they speak,” shows that “The Satan” is not a solitary individual, but representative of a plurality of speakers, whose speech is enunciative of deep things, called “depths.” These depths were adverse to the “Name,” “Faith,” and morality, or “works,” styled by the Spirit “his,” and therefore they were Satanic Depths; and those who taught them “the Satan;” and those who received them, both teachers and disciples, “the Synagogue of the Satan;” “Jezebel the prophetess” and the holders of Balaam’s teaching, who styled themselves apostles, and said they were Jews, being the clergy of that synagogue, clerically termed “the Church of God;” but in reality “the habitation of demons, the hold of every foul spirit, and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird.” Antipas, or the faithful witnesses, were the rest among the Thyatirans who had not acknowledged the “depths of the Satan as they speak.” Antipas still retained his original position in “all the ecclesias,” which, although teeming with “false brethren” both in the presbyteries and among the multitude, had not yet been “spued out of the mouth of the Spirit.” Antipas was the remnant of the Woman’s Seed contending earnestly for the faith once for all delivered to the saints against all “the depths of the Satan as they speak;” which in their logical effect upon the minds of Christians perverted the gospel; and made it of no effect in regard to justification and practice. The Star-Presbytery in Ephesus had fallen from its first estate; still it had not fallen to the lowest “depths,” for Antipas was among them as “those who could not bear them that are evil; but tried them who pretended they were apostles, and are not, and found them liars.” Antipas was also among the Smyrneans as “the rich,” because faithful in works, tribulation, and poverty; also among the Sardians as “the few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments;” and in Philadelphia, as the “little strength” of the ecclesia there; which the Spirit says had “kept my word and not denied my name.” But among the Laodiceans the Antipas are not found. Their existence is a supposition, as, “If any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” The Satan was triumphant there, and the faithful witnesses reduced to such an insignificant minority as to be noticeable in the prophecy only as an hypothesis. They were “a contemptible few” not submerged in “the depths of the Satan as they speak;” but not enough of them to save the ecclesia from being spued out of the Spirit’s mouth. A few did hear the Spirit’s voice among the Laodiceans, and became fugitives in consequence. They were no longer found in “the churches,” but in their own peculiar place, “in the wilderness;” where, as “the Woman” and “the Remnant of her Seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Anointed,” they were “nourished” for 1260 Years “from the face of the Serpent,” become a Catholic of the Laodicean type—Rev. 12:14, 17, 9, 10. 83 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 262 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1895, p. 53-54 (Excerpt) John opens before us considerations powerful to strengthen us in our determination to adhere to Christ in the midst of all the difficulties. “That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with his son Jesus Christ, and these things write we unto you that your joy may be full.” The fellowship here referred to is a joyful thing—not possible of being seen in all its significance till the veil is removed that meanwhile separates from the Father’s presence. It is a very different thing from the “fellowship” of ecclesial phrase, which is often a sheer endurance and great trial of affliction—as intended for the discipline of the true children. True fellowship is a state of being a fellow of, a state of being in close companionship and congenial intimacy with another. It amounts almost to identity. Association is a pure satisfaction bordering on ecstacy; separation a cause of the reverse experience. The grounds of it lie in identity of view, taste, feeling, principle, and aim. It is because there is little of this identity, that there is little of pure fellowship in the present evil state. There may be any amount of association without true fellowship, though true fellowship craves association. There may be nominal fellowship that is sincere enough without being real. The obligations of duty may lead to it without the heart tasting the sweets of it, for lack of the mutuality of the conditions out of which it springs. This is speaking of the fellowships of probation, but this is all preliminary. The true fellowship which the apostles have been sent to create, is that fellowship with the Father and with his son Jesus Christ, which will be triumphantly established in a multitude upon the earth at last on the basis of incorruptibility of nature. The mind turns to this with solace and comfort in the midst of the terrible evil of the present state. It lies ahead like the bright and hospitable shelter of home at the end of the weary traveller’s journey over the storm-swept moor. It is a vision of light and holiness and joy. The “general assembly and church of the first-born” will be an assembly of picked men and women from every age, who have victoriously fought their way through the obstructions and discouragements that beset the path of righteousness in “Time’s dark wilderness of years.” Their corporate relation one to another, in the strength and grace of spirit nature, the intensity of divine intelligence, the sweetness of all-prevailing and spontaneous love, and the constant joy of everlasting life—is so glorious as only to be fully symbolised by the splendour of the New Jerusalem, descending from God out of Heaven, blazing with his glory in all the glowing hues and tints of stones most precious. We can enter into the abandon of delightful imagery, which informs us that “the city has no need of the sun, neither of the moon to shine in it, for the glory of God enlightens it and the Lamb is the light thereof. . . and there shall be no night there and they need no candle, neither light of the sun: for the Lord God giveth them light, and they shall reign for ever and ever.” We can heartily join in the exclamation: “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life and enter in through the gates into the city.” May it be our privilege to have a place in that glorious fellowship. 84 Excommunication “Excommunication” is an ordinance of the apostasy; ecclesial withdrawal is of apostolic prescription. By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1870, p. 91 (Excerpt) 85 Compiler’s Note Excommunication is defined as "The act of banishing a member of a church from the communion of believers and the privileges of the church; cutting a person off from a religious society". Before ecclesial unions existed, there was no way to excommunicate an individual for there was no union of ecclesias from which to cut the person off. However, once a Fellowship, a society or union of ecclesias is established, the power to excommunicate exists, whether the society admits to it or not. When an ecclesial member is withdrawn from by the union of ecclesias, that is, by what Bereans call “inter-ecclesial unity of action”, it is a nice way of saying “excommunicated”. Ecclesias may independently concur with an action, but this is called ecclesial autonomy, and it must not be taken away by inter-ecclesial action. It is like any other principle is the Truth. If you change one element, you are forced to follow the change through to its logical conclusion – perhaps becoming a deceiver of yourself and of others. The Christadelphian (April, 1891) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1891, p. 149-150 The document proposes “union with all who have not forfeited their right to the fully assured salvation.” How can such rule be carried out? How can we know who have and who have not forfeited the said right? It is calling upon us to pronounce on a matter beyond our jurisdiction, and that has been placed beyond it by the express command to “judge not,” “condemn not.” The time for withdrawal is when men drift into unscriptural attitudes of faith or practice. These we note and separate ourselves from, without reference to the question of whether the offenders can be saved, which we cannot decide. And the withdrawal is not putting them out but going out ourselves, as the term implies. We simply go away, saying we cannot be responsible. The attitude prescribed by this “basis” would place the ecclesia in a chair of authority, with power of excommunication, arrogating the right to “cut off” or say the excommunicated cannot be saved. Answers to Correspondents (Open Sin) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1898, p.158 (Excerpt) The friends of Christ are not allowed, in the present state, to employ coercive measures, in any form. The execution of the judgment written is a prerogative in reserve for such only as come through the present probation, with divine approval. Meanwhile, we are allowed to use the defensive weapon of non-association where there is non-compliance with the precepts of Christ. “Excommunication” is an ordinance of the apostasy; ecclesial withdrawal is of apostolic prescription. 86 Fellowship in The Truth By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1870, p. 16 (Excerpt) It is not my province to issue bulls of excommunication, but simply to shew what the truth teaches and commands. I have to do with principles, not men. If anyone say that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh common to us all, the apostle John saith that that spirit or teacher is not of God; is the deceiver and the anti-Christ, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ; and is therefore not to be received into the house, neither to be bidden God-speed.—(1 John 4:3, 2; 2 Ep. 7, 9, 10.) I have nothing to add to or take from this. It is the sanctifying truth of the things concerning the “name of Jesus Christ.” All whom the apostles fellowshipped, believed it; and all in the apostolic ecclesias who believed it not—and there were such—had not fellowship with the apostles, but opposed their teachings; and when they found they could not have their own way, John says “They went out from us, but they—the anti-Christ—were not of us; for if they had been of us (of our fellowship), they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”—(1 John 2:19.) The apostles did not cast them out, but they went out of their own accord, not being able to endure sound doctrine.—(2 Tim. 4:3.) The Christadelphian By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1891, p. 149-150 (Excerpt) The time for withdrawal is when men drift into unscriptural attitudes of faith or practice. These we note and separate ourselves from, without reference to the question of whether the offenders can be saved, which we cannot decide. And the withdrawal is not putting them out but going out ourselves, as the term implies. We simply go away, saying we cannot be responsible. The attitude prescribed by this “basis” would place the ecclesia in a chair of authority, with power of excommunication, arrogating the right to “cut off” or say the excommunicated cannot be saved. Faithful men are more truly modest, while more uncompromising towards departure from the faith than the sentiments that inspire this basis. Faithful men say, “we have no power to cut off: Christ will do that. But we have power to withdraw; and this we will do with however much reluctance and pain, when the Word of God and its obligations are tampered with by whomsoever.” We will exercise this liberty unhampered by any assumptions as to the position of those who have technically “responded to the Gospel call.” The basis declares that all such are “in union and fellowship with the Father.” This is not true. There were many in the apostolic age who had “obeyed the Gospel call,” whom the Apostles repudiated as “enemies of the cross of Christ” (Phil. 3:18)—spots in their feasts of charity (Jude 12); who claimed to be Jews but were not, but lied (Rev. 3:9). 87 Is It to Be a Central Tribunal? By bro. C. C. Walker The Christadelphian, 1919, p. 461-462 (Excerpt) Do they wish all ecclesias in the United Kingdom, and all “members” thereof, to consider them a permanent ethical tribunal, to whose judgment as to “right ways and wrong ways,” in such cases as that under consideration, all must bow under pain of excommunication? Surely the answer must be in the negative. Where would our jealously guarded ecclesial independence vanish to if such an idea were tolerated? Answers to Correspondents By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1865, p. 148 (Excerpt) The devil Christ destroyed, was sin in the flesh. This is the fact perceived by all who scripturally partake of the table, but if there come one among you, saying that sin in the flesh was not the devil that Christ destroyed, but that it was a supernatural antagonist, dealing death and affliction among the human race, then he is clearly unsuited by his condition of mind to sit down with you. There is no unity between you in those doctrinal perceptions which constitute the very basis of “the table of the Lord.” If he insist on a fellowship which cannot exist, all you have to do is to follow the apostolic injunction where spiritual incompatibility arises,—“withdraw thyself” which is more in harmony with the general passive policy inculcated by Christ, than the arrogant attitude of excommunication. Extracts from Correspondence By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1880, p. 131 (Excerpt) Friend Crichton puts the matter in the wrong shape when he speaks of “cutting him off from fellowship.” No man in the present day has power to either cut off or put on. The only power we possess is to stand apart where duty calls for it, and this power belongs to every one. It is a question of duty in each case. On this, mistakes may doubtless be made: but it is a matter in which everyone must judge for himself, in the doing of which he is responsible to Christ, the supreme judge. If the fact that Christ will judge his people at his coming is no part of the apostolic testimony of the gospel, then doubtless it is a “grievous mistake” to make the rejection of it a reason for dissociation. But if it be otherwise—if Christ’s office as the judicial dispenser or withholder of life at his coming, be an element of the gospel preached by them, (and who can gainsay it in the face of the following testimonies?—Acts 10:42; Rom. 2:16; 1 Cor. 4:5; 2 Cor. 5:10; Heb. 6:1), dissociation on the ground of the rejection of the fact becomes simply one of those painful deprivations to which we have to submit oftentimes with a reluctant sense of duty. The glorious parts of the gospel referred to by Friend Crichton are part of the basis of fellowship; but they must not be divorced from the other parts. The faith of the gospel is a compound element (e.g., the Father, the Son, the crucifixion, the resurrection, the promises, &c.), and it is dangerous to sacrifice any of the elements. “Reconsideration” can but confirm the attitude of faithfulness to the whole gospel, unless we were at liberty to act in accordance with the friendly instincts of the natural man. These would certainly incline us to abate the jots and tittles, and to accept sincere generalities as a sufficient basis for fellowship in Christ.—EDITOR. 88 Fellowship Practice But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the ecclesia of the living God, the pillar and firm support of the truth. 1st Timothy 3:15 89 Notes (Letter of Recommendation) The Christadelphian, 1881, p. 572 AN IMPOSTOR.—An impostor is on the wing. He has victimized the brethren at various points. He has obtained possession of a copy of The Christadelphian, and will exhibit considerable acquaintance with the affairs of the brethren. Strangers ought not to be received without a letter of recommendation. It is no new suggestion that brethren leaving one part of the country for another, should be provided by their ecclesia with such a document. Reference is more satisfactory, because a letter may be forged, whereas a reference that you apply to and wait the answer from before acting, cannot be tampered with. Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue. – No. 14 (Schism Apostolically Defined) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1869, p. 326 1 Cor. 12. It will be observed, brethren and sisters, that this chapter addresses itself to a state of things which does not exist among us, and, therefore, to some extent, it may not have special interest for us. Nevertheless, it is profitable for two reasons. It is well we should understand the state of things existing in apostolic days, and it is well we should apply to our circumstances the lessons which Paul here administers to ancient believers in their circumstances. Rules of conduct are the same in all ages. We differ in circumstances from those who received the word at the mouth of the apostles, but we are under the same law. The principal circumstance in which we differ is the fact brought before us in this chapter that there were brethren among the ecclesias in the apostolic age who were endowed with the gifts of the Spirit; who exhibited all those powers that are mentioned in the 8th verse. “For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another, the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; to another, faith by the same Spirit; to another, the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; to another, the working of miracles; to another, prophecy; to another, discerning of spirits; to another, divers kinds of tongues; to another, the interpretation of tongues.” These powers are not now bestowed, because the purpose for which they were given was served in the confirmation of the testimony of the apostles, who were set forth before men as the personal witnesses of the resurrection of Christ. General belief of their testimony having been produced, and made effectual in the development of a people for the name of the Lord, the powers of the Spirit subsided with the death of the apostles. After their decease there were none who had power, by the laying on of hands, to impart the gift. While the apostles were alive, the powers of the Spirit were in full play, and this chapter shews that human nature is the same under all circumstances—that the gifts of the Spirit were as fruitful of division in the early ecclesias as the gifts of nature, as we may call them, are now; and when I say division, I mean division in the apostolic sense— schism in a meeting—not schism in the modern and false sense of one part of a body withdrawing from the fellowship of another part. This may be a righteous and commendable thing. It all depends upon circumstances. In the days of John, the antichristian element, in particular cases, seceded from those who were true. “They went out from us,” says he, “because they were not of us.” This was good for the faithful left behind, but a great crime on the part of those seceding. Sometimes, circumstances shaped the other way. The faithful had to “withdraw” from those who walked otherwise. This was a thing enjoined by Paul. This was not the division or schism he condemned. The schism he condemned was such schisms as existed among those he was writing to, and exemplified in the 11th chapter of this epistle, in the 18th verse, where he says “But first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions (or schisms) among you.” This is what Paul condemns—the existence of a divided state 90 of feeling in a community that ought to be one. He does not condemn that which he on other occasions commanded and exhorted them to do, viz. that where men professing to be the church of God do not consent to the wholesome words of the Lord Jesus Christ, they were to withdraw from them and not meet with them. This is a duty which is necessary to the preservation of the faith, and its recommendation is the tower of our present strength and our weapon of defence. If there were no such apostolic recommendation, what answer could we make to the charge of schism this morning? Here we are, an isolated community. We have withdrawn ourselves from the great religious bodies of the country, who, as a matter of words, profess the faith of Christ. They say “we believe in Jesus Christ, we believe in the gospel,” and if we were bound by verbal profession, we should be bound to identify ourselves with them; but the apostolic exhortation gives us liberty. It commands us to try the spirits, and to hold no fellowship with any spirit that is not of God. By the obedience of this command, we are here assembled, and by the obedience of this command, we are enabled to obey the other command, to have no schism, because by the common exercise of our judgment in the matter, we come to be “perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” Indeed, by no other course can we comply with the apostolic requisition to have no schism, than by carrying out the apostolic injunction to withdraw from those who consent not to sound doctrine. The division or schism to be reprobated is a schism, or division, or faction, or party in the meeting. This is the subject of Paul’s animadversion; and it would seem that the existence of spiritual gifts tended to this evil. One can easily see how this was, remembering that human nature then was the same as human nature now. The gifts varied; some were more extraordinary than others, while some of the brethren had no gifts at all. This state of things afforded scope for evil in a carnal-minded community. A brother able to do more wonderful things than the rest, would be liable to feel himself of more consequence in the ecclesia than another brother, who, perhaps, did nothing at all. A wise man largely gifted would see that what he possessed he had received, and was therefore no matter of boast or credit to him, and he would therefore play a modest part; but others in the ecclesia not so wise would think differently and exalt him, and so cause schism, because the exaltation of one would involve the depreciation of another not so highly gifted. This is the schism that Paul says is not to exist. Paul’s argument about these diversities of gifts is, that they were all needful in their place—the most humble as much as the highest. He contends that it was quite an unnatural state of things, for any man having a superior gift to look down upon or disregard, or think small of one who was less liberally endowed; and that, on the other hand, it was equally unreasonable for a brother possessing a small gift to suppose that he was nobody. He deprecated the idea that a man must be an important member of the body before he can be a consequential part of it. He draws attention to the fact, that the most obscure members of the body are quite as important as those that are more visible and ornamental, and further reminds them that when any single member is exposed to suffering of any kind, all the rest suffer with it. What he advocates is, that robust understanding that can see all things to be equally important in their proper place, and that will therefore observe a cheerful, loving, intelligent modesty, whether the place occupied or the office fulfilled be high or low. He desired the Corinthians to see that they (that is, all true members of the Christ bride elect) were parts of a social unity of the highest order, and that it was acting unkindly to themselves and in opposition to the spirit of their calling, to make their necessary differences the occasion of disunion of feeling. Now, although we cannot apply this lesson where Paul has given it, because we are not endowed with the gifts of the spirit, we can apply it with regard to gifts of another sort. We have all diversities of gifts, and they all proceed from God. No one made himself. No one should think highly of himself, because he has a gift that may distinguish him from the rest. He ought rather to think that as he did not make himself, it is no credit to him that he can do certain things which others cannot do. There is lack of reasonable ground for boasting or self-compliment. The feebly-gifted should also have it in mind that if they are part of the true body of Christ, they are as truly important as the greatest in that great body. Between the well-gifted and the ill-gifted, there should be no schism. The one should be modest and kind, and the other, contented, 91 cheerful, and kind. There should be no schism in the body. Loving co-operation ought to be the rule all round. It is highly necessary to remember these things. The object of Christ in gospel operations is to provide a community actuated by a common sentiment, not only in doctrine, but in affection, interest, and love. Unity of doctrine is only the beginning of their unity; the end is good brotherhood. Unity of doctrine in the absence of moral and sympathetic unity, is a very poor thing. It is beautiful in its way,— good and excellent in these days when so difficult to get at, but a mockery if unaccompanied by that higher unity which comes as the fruit thereof when the soul is not barren. Alone, its beauty is the beauty of a cold day; the sun may shine brightly, but we are chilled to the heart by the cold. We have other faculties besides the intellect, and into these must the truth penetrate with warming ray. It must permeate and purify the whole man, and fire the heart as well as enlighten the head. The head and the heart are united, and “what God hath joined, let no man put asunder.” It is an ugly rupture of partnership when the head goes one way and the heart another. All must be laid at the feet of Christ, and in such case, there will be true love of the true brethren, for “he that loveth him that begat, loveth also him that is begotten.”—(1 John .) But all are not true. The net of the word let into the sea of population, encloses good fishes and bad. For this reason we must never expect in the present state to realise the ideal of perfect Christian fellowship. The presence of bad fish disturbs the water. Our experience will be a mixture of gratification and endurance, edification and discipline. By the one class, we shall be refreshed; by the other tried. To the one, our love will go out; to the other, benevolence. There is a great difference between love and benevolence. Love is drawn out of us, whereas benevolence is brewed within. Love is a state of mind engendered by circumstances without, and is alike gratifying to the subject and the object. Benevolence, on the other hand, when exerted towards an unlovely object, is an impulse of kindness created by the will in spite of deterrent influences. The exercise of it is a trial, an improvement. Love is the best, but this is not yet the age of love. It is delightful to be in the circle of love. All people wish to be in it, but nearly all miss their way. They don’t go in at the door, but try and climb up some other way. The secret of entrance is to be lovely, but this means more than is possible with most. Yet the majority of those professing the truth are surely capable of some of the conditions. Be patient; minister to others; do your duty and love is sure to grow. If it does not grow, take higher ground. Go to the mountain of God, and if you must stand alone “do good unto those that hate you and say all manner of evil things against you;” be “kind to the unthankful and the evil.”—A difficult thing, doubtless, for the natural man, but with perseverance, the new man will grow strong enough to get at it. You will then be enabled to endure, to wait patiently, to exert yourself in a firm and tranquil state of mind towards one another. We must cultivate this. It is impossible to get on in this evil world without it; because the world is so evil, that if we wait to be acted upon for good by other people, we shall never be good at all. The best way is to exercise the apostolic maxim, and overcome evil with good. To fail in this, is to come short. We may pursue a certain straight and steady course of well-doing, in the sense of not doing wrong, and yet be deficient in the positive kind of well-doing that overcomes evil with good. Nay, the case may be worse, and the evil in the way may occasionally frighten us off the path. We are tempted into impatience and malevolence, through the offences of others. This were a calamity, for we ought at least not to allow the victory to be on the side of evil. Let it be at least a drawn battle. Let us not give in to the flesh: do not be overcome, whether in yourself or the conduct of others, by its influence; always pursue a tranquil and unfaltering course of duty and kindness, with Christ in full blazing view. As Jesus said concerning a certain exhortation, “He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.” Let all those who mean to be like Christ, who are for being part and parcel of that glorious community that will survive the existence of flesh and blood on earth, try to put these principles into practice. It is rather a high endeavour for our poor nature, but it is astonishing what a man can do under the power of the truth. The lesson taught in this chapter is part of the power—that those who are feeble, are not always to despair, but to make the most of their abilities, knowing that in the great house of Christ, there will be places for small as well as large. To act otherwise—to do nothing because all cannot be done that we should like—to waste the 92 time in unavailing regret that we are not better than we are, is to miss the little opportunity we have, and secure for us the displeasure of Him who is our judge. Let us lift up the hands that hang down, and strengthen the feeble knees and make straight paths for our feet. On the other hand, those who are better furnished than their fellows have their duty laid down in the chapter. It is the lesson expressed in the remark of Paul that no man should think of himself more highly than he ought to think. What we have, we have not made, but have received. We therefore ought to wear it with condescension. By condescension is not meant patronage. There is a very great difference between patronage and condescension. Patronage means “I am high and you are very low down, and it is a great act of humility for me to take any notice of you.” Condescension on the other hand expresses itself thus: “I am nothing at all of myself, and therefore I have no right to carry myself haughtily towards you, though you may be different from me; God has made us both; let us try to be happy together.” If those who have it in their power (by privilege of mental endowment or greatness of pocket), would take this part, there would be a great advance towards true community. However, we must never lose heart if we fail to arrive at such a state of things. We shall never in the flesh attain to all we may consider desirable in an ecclesia, because there will always be an ingredient of the old leaven till it is purged out at the judgment. Our ideal must therefore be stored in the future. We may nurse it in that relation without stint, but nursing it now, we are doomed to failure, and if not prepared for this beforehand by knowing the impracticability of achieving it, we are liable to lose heart, to go into the corner and give up the strife with evil, which will be a mistake. If we will but remember that the ecclesia in the present state is but the workshop in which the stones are being shaped and polished for the great building of God that is to be hereafter erected, we shall be greatly enabled to preserve our souls in patience. Let every man bend his strength to the saving of himself. Look to no man: lean on none. Fight your way through the darkness; there is light beyond. By and bye our highest aspirations will find their goal in the perfection of the kingdom of God. When God makes up his jewels, our souls will luxuriate in excellence. From all ages, and all ecclesias will those be gathered who please Him and meet His purpose. And we know that in that great body—in the one glorified body of Christ, there will be no schism, no jarr, no imperfection. Meanwhile, we must remember that this is a time of imperfection, and we shall never get at what we yearn after; it is a time of trial, a time of patient endurance, a time of evil in which our highest wisdom is to make the best of a bad job. Dr. Thomas and Divisions The Christadelphian, 1930, p. 52-53 SOME brethren make a great boast of their strict adherence to Dr. Thomas and brother Roberts; as much as to say that those who have not subscribed to their judgment do not. Now in which camp are we to suppose Dr. Thomas would be found to-day if he had been in the land of the living? Certainly not among the latter-day troublers of Israel, with their “gnat-straining and camel swallowing” dispositions. Here are some remarks of his written in 1866 and recorded in the Ambassador of that year. He opens his epistle with the words of the Apostle Paul, “I beseech you brethren by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that ye all speak the same things and that there be no divisions among you; and that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” After addressing them as brethren of Christ and alluding to their position as his faithful witnesses, the doctor goes on to say, “Is it so then that after so many years’ study of the enlightening word ye are yet carnal? For whereas there is said to be among you strife and divisions are ye not carnal and walk as men? Know ye not that ye are the Temple of the Deity, if He have any temple in your locality? and ‘that the Spirit which is the Truth’ dwelleth, or ought to dwell, in you? Now, if any man defile the temple by 93 divisions and unnecessary contentions and strifes, him will the Deity destroy; for His Temple is holy, which Temple I trust ye are. If then ye be this Temple ye are Christ’s House, ‘the Ecclesia of Deity,’ and therefore if faithful to Him who hath invited you out of darkness into His marvellous light ‘ye are the pillar and support of the Truth’ in the place of your sojourning, hence you are collectively stewards of the mysteries of the Deity which are ‘foolishness to the wise and prudent’ of this generation. Now it is required of stewards that they be found faithful, and that they keep their accounts correctly so that when the Lord comes they may not be put to shame in his presence. But, as stewards, are you fulfilling this necessity, while contending and striving to the disruption of the congregation and the abolition of the Table in your midst? It is good and wholesome to ‘contend for the Faith once for all delivered to the saints, as in past years you have against the Laodiceans.” Such a contention as this will never divide a healthy body. It will cause it to grow with the increase of the Deity; but to contend for anything short of this, or irrelevant to it, developes only confusion and every evil work.” The doctor then draws the attention of the brethren to their future destiny as the rulers, judges and peacemakers of the age to come, and then he adds: “Is it indeed so, that the Truth hath not power in your midst to preserve you from divisions and confusion? If you cannot maintain peace and unanimity among yourselves, how will you ever become morally fit to command the peace of the world and to maintain it? Is not this to your shame? Is it so, ‘that there is not a wise man among you’? No, not one that can straighten out any difficulty that may arise among you? Now, therefore, there is utterly a fault among you! “What is it? Are any of your number possessed of the old demon of Puritanism, that would not permit a woman to kiss her child on the Sabbath day because it broke the Sabbath and savoured of the flesh? or that would not allow a man to work a ferry boat unless he were a member of the church or ‘in the Lord’? or a demon that burned witches and hanged Quakers because they did not pronounce Shibboleth aright. Beloved brethren, human nature is always tending to extremes and transcending what is written. As the saying is, it will strain at gnats and swallow camels by the herd. It set up the Inquisition and is incessantly prying into matters beyond its jurisdiction. It is very fond of playing the judge and of executing its own decrees. It has a zeal but not according to knowledge, and therefore its zeal is intemperate and not the zeal of wisdom or knowledge rightly used. It professes great zeal for the purity of the Church, and would purge out everything that offends its sensitive imagination. “But is it not a good thing to have a church without tares, black sheep, or spotted heifer? Yea, verily, it is an excellent thing. But then it is a thing the Holy Spirit has never yet developed, and cannot be developed by any human judiciary in the administration of spiritual affairs. There are certain things that must be left to the Lord’s own adjudication when he comes; as it is written ‘He that judgeth is the Lord, therefore judge nothing before the time until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will manifest the counsels of the hearts,’ ‘and then shall every man have praise of the Deity’ (1 Cor. 4:5: Rev. 2:18); ‘every man’ whose hidden things and heart-counsels when brought to light will be accounted worthy of much praise. Does not this teach us how more important it is that brethren be more diligent in examining themselves than in examining other brethren; and that the Lord expects them to leave something for Him to do in the way of judging, condemning, excommunicating, cutting-off, and casting out ‘in the time of the dead that they should be judged.’ ‘Brethren’ be not children in understanding; howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be perfect’ (1 Cor. 14:20).” In giving a word of admonition further on in his letter the doctor says “Do not act as wayward children, and because you cannot have your own way shy off at a tangent and turn your backs pettishly on one another.” There is much of this in the disrupted ecclesia in our day. Christ is at the door, what will he say? 94 [The foregoing was copied from The Ambassador for 1866, pages 91–93, some considerable time ago by bro. F. H. W. Rhodes. It is still in season.—ED.] Answers to Correspondents By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1865, p. 148-149 (Excerpt) W. D.—The “table of the Lord” is not a piece of furniture, nor the material emblems employed in the celebration of the Lord’s death. It is a mystical name (derived from the literal table in the first instance) representative of a memorial act enjoined upon the brethren of Christ who while remembering their absent master in the form appointed, set forth their unity by partaking of one bread and one cup. This unity in the present state, is doctrinal and arises from unanimity in their perceptions of the things imported by the ceremony — which things of course have reference to a higher future unity, when they shall be in nature “one.” You ask who is to decide upon the admissability, or non-admissability of persons to this. The answer is, Christ has constituted his brethren, the natural guardians of that table by making it symbolical of unity. This compels them to see to it that unity exists where they are invited to sit down to it. They may differ as widely as possible on general topics, but there must be unanimity in their views of the matters involved in the ceremonial act, in which they are called upon to engage. Hence they instinctively refuse to “fellowship” those who have another hope and believe another gospel than themselves. They would not hesitate to refuse fellowship to members of the common sects of professing Protestantism; so that although “the Lord’s table,” they are compelled in the Lord’s absence to act with the discretionary power of the Lord’s stewards, in drawing the line which divides the mystic table of the Lord from the wide spread table of the devil, This leads to the specific questions you ask. A person holding the common doctrine of the devil is not in unity with the doctrine which constitutes the basis of “the table.” The event memoralized by the table is the destruction of the devil through the death of Christ, (1 John 3:8. Heb. 2:14.) Hence, unity of doctrine on the subject of the devil is absolutely necessary as a condition of the memorial act of the table. The devil Christ destroyed, was sin in the flesh. This is the fact perceived by all who scripturally partake of the table, but if there come one among you, saying that sin in the flesh was not the devil that Christ destroyed, but that it was a supernatural antagonist, dealing death and affliction among the human race, then he is clearly unsuited by his condition of mind to sit down with you. There is no unity between you in those doctrinal perceptions which constitute the very basis of “the table of the Lord.” If he insist on a fellowship which cannot exist, all you have to do is to follow the apostolic injunction where spiritual incompatibility arises,—“withdraw thyself” which is more in harmony with the general passive policy inculcated by Christ, than the arrogant attitude of excommunication. Fellowship in The Truth By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1870, p. 16 IN a private communication to a friend in the North, who had put some questions, Dr. Thomas writes on this subject, as follows: The Lord Jesus said: “I pray not for the world, but for them which Thou hast given me, that they may be one, being sanctified through the truth; that they all may be one, as Thou, Father, art in me and I in Thee, that they also may be one in us, as we are one, made perfect in One.”—(John 17.) This unity of spirit in the bond of peace (Eph. 4:3), is what John styles our fellowship, the fellowship of the apostles, 95 resulting from sanctification through the truth. Hence all who are sanctified through the truth, are sanctified by the second Will, through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once. For by one offering he hath perfected for a continuance them that are sanctified (Heb. 10:10, 14), which one offering of the body was the annulling and condemnation of sin, by the sacrifice thereof.—(Heb. 9:26.) This body, which descended from David “according to the flesh,” was the sacrificial victim offered by the Eternal Spirit.— (Heb. 9:14.) if David’s flesh were immaculate, this victim, descended from him, might possibly be spotless; but in that event, it would not have answered for the annulling and condemnation of sin in the flesh that sinned.—(Rom. 8:4.) If it were an immaculate body that was crucified, it could not have borne our sins in it, while hanging on the tree.—(1 Peter 2:24) To affirm, therefore, that it was immaculate (as do all papists and sectarian daughters of the Roman Mother), is to render of none effect the truth which is only sanctifying for us by virtue of the principle that Jesus Christ came IN THE FLESH, in that sort of flesh with which Paul was afflicted when he exclaimed “O, wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from this body of death?”—(Rom. 7:11, 24.) It is not my province to issue bulls of excommunication, but simply to shew what the truth teaches and commands. I have to do with principles, not men. If anyone say that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh common to us all, the apostle John saith that that spirit or teacher is not of God; is the deceiver and the anti-Christ, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ; and is therefore not to be received into the house, neither to be bidden God-speed.—(1 John 4:3, 2; 2 Ep. 7, 9, 10.) I have nothing to add to or take from this. It is the sanctifying truth of the things concerning the “name of Jesus Christ.” All whom the apostles fellowshipped, believed it; and all in the apostolic ecclesias who believed it not—and there were such—had not fellowship with the apostles, but opposed their teachings; and when they found they could not have their own way, John says “They went out from us, but they—the anti-Christ—were not of us; for if they had been of us (of our fellowship), they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.”—(1 John 2:19.) The apostles did not cast them out, but they went out of their own accord, not being able to endure sound doctrine.—(2 Tim. 4:3.) Then preach the word, &c., and exhort with all long-suffering and teaching. This is the purifying agency. Ignore brother this and brother that in said teaching; for personalities do not help the argument. Declare what you as a body believe to be the apostles’ doctrines. Invite fellowship upon that basis alone. If upon that declaration, any take the bread and wine, not being offered by you, they do so upon their own responsibility, not on yours. If they help themselves to the elements, they endorse your declaration of doctrine, and eat condemnation to themselves. For myself, I am not in fellowship with the dogma that Jesus Christ did not come in the flesh, or that he died as a substitute to appease the fury and wrath of God. The love of God is manifest in all that He has done for man. “When all wish to do what is right,” the right surely is within their grasp. I trust you will be able to see it from what is now before you. And may the truth preside over all your deliberations, for Christ Jesus is the truth, and dwells with those with whom the truth is. Where this is I desire to be. If I believe the truth as it is in the Jesus Paul preached, and fellowship the doctrine of an immaculate Jesus Paul did not preach, in celebrating the death of the latter with those who repudiate the maculate body set forth by God for a propitiation, is affirming one thing and practising another. Those who hold Paul’s doctrine, ought not to worship with a body that does not. This is holding with the hare and running with the hounds—a position of extraordinary difficulty. Does not such an one love the hounds better than the hare? When the hounds come upon the hare, where will he be? No; if I agree with you in doctrine, I will forsake the assembling of myself with a body that opposes your doctrine, although it might require me to separate from the nearest and dearest. No good is effected by compromising the principles of the truth; and to deny that Jesus came in sinful flesh, is to destroy the sacrifice of Christ. JOHN THOMAS. 96 Dr. Thomas in Scotland in 1849 By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1887, p. 433-434 On my second and last visit to Dundee, in 1850, I was sorry to find a want of union, confidence, and co-operation among all who had yielded obedience to the Gospel of the Kingdom. Roots of bitterness existed, connected with total abstinence, and what was supposed to be a tendency to episcopal ambition, to leadership. Alas, when will they who would be greatest learn to become the servants of the least of Christ’s flock? I judge not in the case before us, because I am not sufficiently informed of its real demerits; but I do most sincerely tender to all the friends of the Kingdom’s Gospel the advice which I aim to practice myself, and that is, have patience till the Kingdom comes, and seek no lordship until then. If we are found worthy of that Kingdom, we shall share with Christ in his absolute and divine lordship over Israel and the nations. Surely this will be honour and distinction enough for the most ambitious. Till then let us despise the microscopism of a little powerless and brief authority in the household of faith. A man of knowledge and wisdom will have more authority and power thrust upon him by his fellows than he will care to exercise, if his mind be rightly chastened by the truth. Let each esteem other better than himself, and all will be well. Men are sometimes made usurpers by the suspicious insinuations of others, and their intrigues to prevent usurpation. Let us beware of this; and let all things be done with love as unto God and not to men, and then harmony will be undisturbed. Temperance is a virtue against which there is no law. Jesus Christ, our sovereign, lord, and king, was temperate in all things, and so are all the members of his royal household. He and they are temperate as a fruit of the spirit—a virtue resulting from the truth believed. He was not a total abstinent. This is a fact. Neither were Paul nor Timothy; nor can Christ’s members be who drink of the new covenant cup. Total abstinence was never made a test of Christian fellowship by the apostles, though temperance was; for it is written, “no drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of God.” Drunkenness is disorderly conduct, and every brother that walks disorderly we are commanded to withdraw ourselves. The saints have no right to impose tests of fellowship upon one another which the Spirit of God has not imposed. The world, whose standard of morals is not God’s standard, can impose what it pleases upon “its own; ” but it has no right to dictate to Christ’s household, who are its masters elect; nor should Christ’s brethren permit it. They should be careful, too, not to drink into its spirit, nor to co-operate with it in carrying out its crotchets. If every earth-born were a total abstinent, the world would be as far from the kingdom’s gospel as if every man, woman, and child were drunken with the fumes of alcohol. The soberest of the world’s people have been made drunk with the wine of the great harlots adultery, Rev. 17:2. This intoxication continues, and will obfuscate their intellects until the Lord comes to sober them, Isai. 25:7. Offer the Kingdom’s Gospel to the most pious of the world’s abstinents, and they will reject it with contempt, and perhaps with rage; or if they profess to believe it, how few of them are sober minded enough to obey it. Let not the saints mis-spend their efforts, and waste their energies. If they be zealous for total abstinence, let it be for a total abstinence from all sins. The Gospel needs and commands their whole soul. Let the world attend to the liquor, to tobacco, and to the emancipation of “its own” from political and social duress imposed upon them by sin, whom they serve; be it ours, the “heirs of the kingdom,” and the future enlighteners and regenerators of mankind, co-operators with Christ in the deliverance of the world, to mind our own business, which is to open the blind eyes, to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of the adversary to God, that they may receive remission of sins, and inheritance among them that are sanctified by the faith which is in Jesus, Acts 26:18. 97 Cross Currents in Ecclesial Waters By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1898, p. 126 (Excerpt) The only practicable rule of operation at present is fellowship on the basis of oneness of mind. It is a rule fraught with embarrassment and pain, but it is not of human appointment and cannot be set aside where faithfulness to the word of God is not extinct. To confound this rule with the Corinthian schisms that gloried in particular men after the flesh, is a serious mistake. The “plea” shows some heat against those who are described as “every assumed leader amongst us.” I suppose I am intended as one of those, and as such, I am to be “repudiated once and for ever.” There is either misunderstanding or malice here. I am no “leader” except as a man’s individual actions may influence others. I have always repudiated the imputation of leadership. I but do my own part on the basis of individual right. I claim no authority. I dictate to no man. I only act out my individual convictions, and advocate my individual views. Which of the demurring brethren do not do the same thing? Why should they find fault with me for doing what they do? If others are influenced by what I do or say, is this wrong? Is it not what the critics are aiming to do? An enlightened man would refuse to be responsible for such an unreasonable criticism. Answers to Correspondents By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1891, p. 105 FELLOWSHIP.—H. K.—(“Is it scriptural to teach that breaking of bread has nothing to do with fellowship?)—To have fellowship is to be fellow of, to be one with, therefore to have communion, or union together. To say that the breaking of bread has nothing to do with this is to go against the meaning of the ordinance and the express terms of apostolic affirmation. The institution is not only memorial but spiritually significative. Paul says: “The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?” If the bread signifies the body of Christ, then our partaking of the same bread is an act of joining together, or communion with fellowship in that body. So Paul says and reason requires: “We being many are one bread and one body: FOR we are all partakers of that one bread” (1 Cor. 10:16, 17). To break bread is to “partake of the Lord’s table,” and all who do so are fellows one with another in the act and meaning of the act. Though many, they become one body, and therefore in fellowship. The breaking of bread together is therefore the highest act of fellowship possible in the present state. Queries Proposed by J.A.I. to Dr Thomas, For Categorical Answer By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1870, p. 155 1st.—Will the unfaithful, who lived from Adam to Jesus, be raised to judgment at the second advent; or will they never be raised, but “remain in the congregation of the dead?” Answer: “Some will; others not.” 98 2nd.—Will men die during the reign of Christ, through their connection with Adam? if not, when are they freed from that connection? and if freed, will they live always, if obedient? Answer: “All but the saints will be mortal.” 3rd.—Was the flesh of Jesus from his birth by Mary, pure, holy, spotless, undefiled. Answer: “No.” 4th.—Had he not been put to death violently, would he have lived for ever? Answer: “No.” 5th.—Did he stand in the same relation to “the law of sin and death,” as Adam did before he transgressed? Answer: “Answered above.” 6th.—Can a man be justified who believes the things implied in these questions concerning the nature of Jesus? Answer: “The Lord will settle this question at the judgment.” 7th.—Would you have any fellowship with those who believe or teach these things? Answer: “My fellowship is with the apostles; they had many brethren who were bewitched and disgraced the truth.” Reason for Putting these Questions. “I have some of your writings, and understand your mind thoroughly on these questions; but others who have them also, do not seem to understand them. I would therefore like to show them plainly that they do not understand, and so either convince them of their error, or shut their mouths. Response.—“The mouths of the bewitched are not easily shut. The most ignorant are the most garrulous. He is wise who speaks few words.” True Principles and Uncertain Details By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1898, p. 182-188 OR, THE DANGER OF GOING TOO FAR IN OUR DEMANDS ON FELLOW-BELIEVERS IT has pleased God to save men by the belief and obedience of a system of truth briefly described as “the gospel of our salvation,” and also spoken of by Jesus and John and Paul as “the truth.” “Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”—Jesus. For this reason, it is necessary for believers to be particular in requiring the full recognition of this truth at the hands of one another as the basis of their mutual association, and generally, to “contend for the faith once delivered to the saints,” as enjoined by Jude. Those men are to be commended who faithfully exact this recognition both at the hands of applicants for baptism and claimants for fellowship. But there is a danger of going too far. We live in a world of extremes of all kinds. It is difficult for any length of time to maintain an equilibrium in the application of any principle on account of the disbalances of mind so prevalent in the population, and the tendency of men to drive each other into extravagant positions through the sheer friction of personal antagonisms. This is probably more manifest in the truth than in anything else, because of the obligation to make a firm stand which arises out of the truth, as it arises out of nothing else. When men differ about the truth, their differences are more unappeasable than in any other subject, because of the greatness of the interests involved and an earnestness of purpose and a depth of affection created by the truth, as by nothing else. It was not without a reason that Jesus foretold division as the result of his appearance—division so keen that “a man’s foes should be they of his own house.” So much of division is inevitable, and while lamenting it, men of God can but submit, with as little asperity towards those who cause it as possible. But there are divisions that are uncalled for, and therefore sinful. Paul refers to such when he says: “Mark them that cause divisions among you contrary to the doctrine (the teaching on unity) that ye have learnt.” He was referring, no doubt, to the factions 99 arising out of personal preferences, but the warning applies to all divisions that ought not to be made. There is division enough, in all conscience—division that is inevitable—division that must be, unless we are to ignore divine obligations altogether; but there are divisions that ought not to be. It is possible to go too far in our demands on fellow-believers. How far we ought to go and where to stop, is at one time or other a perplexing problem to most earnest minds. They are afraid on the one hand of compromising the truth in fellowship; and on the other, of sinning against the weaker members of the body of Christ. The only end there can be to this embarrassment is found in the discrimination between true principles and uncertain details that do not overthrow them. There are general principles as to which there can be no compromise: but there are also unrevealed applications of these principles in detail which cannot be determined with certainty, and which every man must be allowed to judge for himself without any challenge of his right to fellowship. To insist on uniformity of opinion on those uncertain details is an excess of zeal which may be forgiven, but which meanwhile inflicts harm and distress without just cause. An exception would, of course, be naturally made in the case of the construction of a detail that would destroy the general principle involved, such as where a man professing to believe in Christ might also believe in Mahomet or Confucius—of which there are examples. This supplementary belief destroys the first belief for a true belief in Christ is a belief in his exclusive claims. It may help discernment if we consider some examples unaffected by uncertain details. God GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—“He that cometh to God must believe that HE IS and that He is the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” There can be no question as to our duty where men become unbelieving or doubtful of God’s existence, or of His favourable disposition towards and purpose to openly reward the men who are diligent in their quest of Him and ready in their obedience. Uncertain Detail. — But as to how or where He exists, and in what form or aspect His person is shown and how surrounded—whether He inhabits a world of His own or be the radiant centre of a cluster of celestial worlds; and whether His name means I SHALL BE or I AM, or both, and I HAVE BEEN as well (as in the Apocalyptic formula, “which art and wast and art to come”), there is truth concerning all these points—truth that we shall know and revel in when we are spirit, but it is not possible in our present circumstances to be certain as to any of them, and we should do wrong to insist on any particular opinion as to them. The admission of the true principle that God exists and that He will reward His lovers and friends is all we can claim in fellowship at the hands of fellow-believers. Man GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That God made man of the dust of the ground. Uncertain Detail.—But as to whether it was a direct action of the Father’s formative energy, after the manner in which sound creates geometric figures in sand scattered loosely upon a tightly extended vibrating surface? or by the expert manipulation of angelic hands, we cannot be sure. There are grounds for a strong opinion in favour of the latter, but it would be unwarrantable to insist on the reception of that opinion as a condition of fellowship. It is sufficient if the brother or sister believe that “God made man of the dust of the ground.” Man’s State After Creation GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—He was a living soul or natural body of life, maintained in being by the action of the air through the lungs like us, but unlike us, a “very good” form of that mode of being, and unsubjected to death. Uncertain Detail.—Would he have died if left alone, unchanged, in that state if he had not sinned? Who can tell? The testimony is that death came by sin: but the fact also is that, not being a spiritual body, he was presumably not immortal. Are we going to insist upon an opinion on a point like this, which no man can be certain about? We shall act unwarrantably if we do so. It is sufficient if a man believe that 100 Adam after creation was a very good form of flesh and blood, untainted by curse. The uncertain points must be left to private judgment. The Angels GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That they are the Father’s multitudinous messengers in glorious bodily form, spiritual and immortal, to whom the brethren and sisters of Christ are to be made equal. Uncertain Detail.—Where do they come from? Where do they live? Were they made immortal at the beginning, or did they come through a state of probationary evil like the race of Adam? Who can tell? We may have a strong opinion, but are we going to ask believers to profess an “opinion” as a condition of fellowship? This would be going too far. It is sufficient that a believer believe in the existence and employment of the immortal angels of God. It would be a cruel extravagance to ask him to subscribe to an opinion which may be wrong. The Earth GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That the earth is the promised inheritance of the saints. Uncertain Detail.—Is the earth a globe or a plane, or is it a concavity as the latest speculation affirms on scientific grounds? Who can tell? If a brother choose to think it is a plane, let him think so. It matters nothing what his opinion of the shape of the earth is, so long as he believe that the earth is the inheritance of the saints. An opinion that the earth is going to be burnt up is an opinion that would interfere with the general principle, and therefore to be rejected; but any opinion as to the constitution of the earth is to be tolerated in charity. Sun, Moon and Stars GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—God made them, and they are His. Uncertain Detail.—Are they inhabited worlds, or are they mere lights in the expanse, as the new Koreishan science teaches? No one can tell, though there are grounds for a strong opinion. Let each one have his own opinion. We shall know all about it if we are chosen of the Lord at Christ’s return. If a brother admit that God made them, and that they belong to Him, he admits what has been revealed and what is essential to an adequate conception of the greatness of God. He must be allowed to differ from the rest, if he does so, as to what they are in themselves. Reigning with Christ GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That the glorified brethren of Christ will reign with him as kings and priests with Christ, when he has set up the Kingdom of God at his return. Uncertain Detail.—Will they be scattered over the surface of the earth in palaces of their own, with definitely allotted districts which they will individually administer; or, will they be collected as one body always resident in Jerusalem near the person of Christ? There are good reasons for believing the former of these views to be correct, but as an uncertain detail, we dare not insist upon a particular opinion, as a condition of fellowship. It is sufficient if a brother believe that we shall reign with Christ, whatever dim ideas he may have as to details that do not interfere with the general principle. The Devil GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That the Bible devil is the personified antagonism of flesh and blood to God, in various forms and methods. Uncertain Detail.—What was the particular form of Bible diabolism that Michael encountered in the dispute about the body of Moses? What was the particular form of the Bible devil that tempted Jesus in the wilderness? We cannot positively know, because we are not informed, and because the Bible devil is over and over again a man, an institution, a government, or a desire. We may have an opinion as to who the devil was in these two cases, but it is only an opinion, and a brother must be at liberty to hold whatever opinion commends itself to him in the case, so long as his opinion does not upset the general principle in the case, nor open the door for the supernatural devil of popular theology. 101 Moses GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—Moses was the servant of God, and at his death, was honoured with a divine interment. Uncertain Detail.—Is Moses living now? Some think so, because he appeared on the Mount of Transfiguration. Some think not, because that transfiguration is styled a “vision.” What are we to do? Let every man have his own view, so long as the divinity of the work and writings of Moses is recognised. We shall find out presently from Moses himself whether he has been alive since the first appearing of Christ, and the information will be very interesting; but how absurd it would be to require at the present moment a particular view on the point as a condition of fellowship. Our Summons to Christ at His Appearing GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That we shall be gathered to meet Christ at his coming, whether living or dead, when that great event occurs. Uncertain Detail.—How shall we be gathered? Shall we be carried off as Elijah was, or Philip, or Christ himself—by the prehensile energy of the Spirit of God? or shall we be conveyed by natural means, such as railways and steamboats? Who can be quite sure? It matters not. When the time comes, there will be no mistake about it. There is a strong probability that it will be by the power of the Spirit of God, and not by human locomotion. But are we to reject a brother because he strongly thinks it will be by natural means? So long as he believes in “the coming of our Lord Jesus and our gathering together unto him,” he may form his own ideas as to the particular method by which we are to be gathered. No opinion on that point is inconsistent with the general principle. Immortality GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That God will bestow immortality of nature on His accepted servants at the coming of Christ. Uncertain Detail.—At what particular moment will this be done? Will it be done individually as we appear one by one before the judgment seat of Christ? or will it be done en masse when we have all been judged? If the latter, will it be done immediately the judgment is finished, or will it be deferred to the time when the whole earth has been subjugated by the war of the great day of God Almighty in which the saints take part? Who can tell? We may have our opinions, but we must not insist on our opinions as a condition of fellowship, unless opinions trench on general truth. An opinion to the effect that we are immortal already would clearly destroy the truth that we are to become so only when Christ comes and at his hands. In that case, we would be under the painful necessity of objecting. But provided the general truth is received, we dare not insist on a particular view as to the moment that general truth will be carried into effect. The Temple THE GENERAL TRUTH.—That Christ will build the temple of the future age as a house of prayer for all people. Uncertain Detail.—What will be the size of it? What will be the shape of it? There are no grounds for absolute certainty. There are strong grounds for the view presented by brother Sulley in his temple book: but we should not be justified in making the reception of this view a condition of fellowship. It is sufficient that the general truth is received. Any view that may be entertained as to details is not inconsistent with the general truth. The Judgment Seat GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That Christ will call the living and the dead before his judgment seat at his coming. Uncertain Detail.—Where will he set it up? Will it be in Palestine, or in Egypt, or in the Arabian Peninsula, in the solitudes of Sinai? We cannot be sure. All available evidence seems to point in the 102 direction of the last-mentioned; but an uncertain detail must not be made a basis of fellowship. We must not insist upon a man believing the judgment seat will be set up at Sinai or any particular place so long as he believes that “Jesus Christ will judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his Kingdom.” Responsibility GENERAL PRINCIPLE.—That men are responsible to the resurrection of condemnation who refuse subjection to the will of God when their circumstances are such as to leave them no excuse for such refusal. Uncertain Detail.—But when, in our age, are men in such circumstances? Who can tell but God alone? Some think it is enough if a man have a Bible. Some think that is not enough unless the Bible is explained to him (as in a lecture or book). Some think that is not enough unless the man have capacity to understand the explanation. Some think even that is not enough unless the hand of God is openly shown in certification of the divinity of the Bible, as in the apostolic age, when “the Lord worked with them and confirmed the word with signs following.” What are we to do? Are we to insist upon a precise shade of opinion on a point which no judicious man be absolutely clear about? All we can be sure about is that when men are “without excuse” knowing the judgment of God (Rom. 1:20, 52; 2:1); when they have “no cloak for their sin” like the men who saw the miracles of Christ, and yet both “saw and hated both him and his Father” (Jno. 15:22, 24), that they will come forth at the resurrection to receive punishment according to the righteous judgment of God. When men admit this, they admit enough for purposes of fellowship as regards this particular point. To insist on more than this is to go too far, and to inflict needless distress and cause unnecessary division. No doubt the men who do so think they are doing God service. There is a little excuse for them in the extraordinary doctrine that has been propounded that in the matter of resurrection, God “does not proceed on principles of justice,” but on principles of law, and that if a man have not gone so far in submission and obedience as to be baptised into Christ, Christ has no hold on him, however great and deliberate a rebel he may be. But they go unwarrantably beyond what is just in withdrawing from those who have not received this doctrine, but who are hazy as to the application of the scriptural rule of responsibility in our particular age. Their zeal for a true doctrine is good, but not the shutting of their eyes to the reasonable qualifications that belong to the true view of the subject. They read “He that believeth not shall be condemned,” and they exclaim, “Why hesitate?” They forget that these words refer to those who saw the signs. If they say “No, they apply to everybody also,” they have to be reminded that they do not really think so themselves. Do they believe the Mahometans, and the Chinese who “believe not” will be raised to condemnation? Do they think the benighted millions of Christendom, who “believe not” will be raised? They do not. They have only to ask themselves “Why?” to be reminded of the qualifying fact associated with the words they quote. That qualifying fact was that the men referred to had no excuse for not believing. As Jesus said, “If I had not come and spoken unto them (and done among them works which none other man did), they had not had sin” (to answer for). “If ye were blind, ye should have no sin” (in rejecting me). God is just. The mere circumstance of believing not, is not a ground for resurrectional condemnation in the absence of those attendant circumstances that demand belief. So with the other statement, “He that rejecteth me, &c.” It has to be qualified by the parenthesis understand, “having seen the works I have done.” But say they, “Where the Gospel has power to save, it has power to condemn; and if rejectors are not to be raised, what guarantee have we that acceptors will be saved?” The answer is, Where the Gospel has power to save, it certainly has power to condemn; but where has the Gospel power to save? Only where it is known and believed. In that case, it will condemn the man who does not conform to its requirements. But has it power to save where a man is ignorant or uncertain? No enlightened man would say “Yes” here, and therefore it will be observed that the conclusion as to the condemning power of the Gospel, where it has power to save, has no application to the class of persons in dispute, viz., men, who in the darkness of the age are uncertain as to the truth, though knowing it in a theoretical manner. Men who say to Christadelphians, “I understand what you believe and it is beautiful; but is it true? If the Bible is 103 divine, no doubt it is true; but I have my reservations as to the Bible.” There is no quarrel as to the men who recognise the Bible as the word of God, and understanding it, are aware of its demands upon them to repent and submit to the service of Christ; and yet refuse submission because of the present inconveniences of submission. The responsibility of these men to the resurrection of condemnation is without doubt, but where there is one man of this kind, there are hundreds who are in a haze and a maze of uncertainty as to the truthfulness of the truth, though knowing what the truth is, and concerning whom it is not possible to take the ground that they will rise to condemnation at the coming of Christ. A mistake is made in contending for precise views on a matter that cannot be made precise. Where men admit that rebels and unbelievers who deserve punishment will rise at the resurrection to receive that punishment without reference to the question whether they are baptised or not, they admit all that can righteously be exacted from them. It is impossible for any man to say, who are so deserving. We know that God is just, and will do no unrighteousness. When men admit that He will resurrectionally punish the men who are deserving of it, whether baptised or not, it is inadmissible that we should withdraw from them because they are unable to say who are and who are not so deserving. There is the less need for the extreme demands of some on this head, since those who have espoused the extraordinary doctrine that a man must obey God a little before he is punishable, have separated themselves from those who will not receive their doctrine. “But this has not brought peace,” say they. Do they imagine that this other movement is going to bring peace? Behold how much the reverse. They are separating men who ought to remain united because holding the same truth, though made by an artificial contention to appear as if they did not. They are sowing division and bitterness and strife on the plea of producing harmony and peace. They are refusing the friends of Christ because of uncertainties as to how much Christ will punish a certain class of his enemies. And compassing sea and land to make proselytes to this most unenlightened proceeding. How perfectly melancholy it seems in the presence of the real work of the truth. While the world is up in arms against the Bible, or where not against the Bible, against the doctrines of the Bible, and some good and honest hearts surrender, and joyfully profess faith in the writings of Moses, the prophets and the apostles, and receive the Gospel as preached to Abraham, and expounded by Jesus to the hearers of the apostolic age with all readiness of mind: and they ask for baptism that they may become servants of Christ in the obedience of his commandments, and heirs of the great salvation promised to the faithful. We examine them and find them fully enlightened in “the glorious Gospel of the blessed God,” and we baptise them. They come to the table of the Lord: an extremist steps forward and says, “Do you believe rejectors of the truth will rise to condemnation?” The newborn says, “I believe the rejectors referred to by Christ will rise.” Extremist: “Will not all rejectors rise?” Newborn: “Not all rejectors, I think. The Mahometans reject Christ. I do not expect them to rise?” Extremist: “You are trifling with the question.” Newborn: “I think not. I understood that rejectors were not responsible unless they rebel against the light knowing it to be the light.” Extremist: “That is what I mean, but many are hazy who these are: will you promise to withdraw from such? Newborn: “You put me in a difficulty there. If men believe that the Lord will punish those who deserve it, and that rebels and unbelievers will be excluded from the Kingdom of God, I should scarcely feel justified in refusing them because of any little uncertainty they might have as to the Lord’s precise method of dealing with them. It would depend upon the nature of their reasons. If they were to contend that Christ had no hold on rebels unless they were baptised, and that rebels could outwit God, as it were, by refusing to go into the water, and that in fact resurrectional condemnation was only for the obedient, and that the safe way for men when the Gospel comes is to have nothing to do with it, I confess I should look upon that as such a confusion of truth in its most elementary principles as would justify me in refusing identification with it. But if their difficulty were merely as to the precise amount of privilege needful to make an unbeliever responsible, I should hesitate in refusing them. I should, in fact, fear to do wrong in doing so.” Extremist: “Oh, I see you are prepared to 104 compromise the truth for the sake of numbers.” Newborn: “I think you are not justified in that expression of opinion.” Extremist: “I have a right to form my own opinion.” Newborn: “A man may have to answer for wrong opinions of that sort. You judge and condemn where you are forbidden to do so.” If the Extremist will walk out under those circumstances, there is nothing for it but to bear it. This “doctrine of fellowship” (as it is called) is also carried to an excess never contemplated in apostolic prescription. I was called upon by a man in dead earnest who contended there were no such things as “first principles,” and that every detail of truth, down even to the date of the expiry of the Papal 1260, should be insisted on as a condition of fellowship. Such outrageous extravagance would not be contended for by every extremist; but in principle, they are guilty of it when they insist on uncertain details, as well as true general principles. Fellowship is friendly association for the promotion of a common object—with more or less of the imperfection belonging to all mortal life. To say that every man in that fellowship is responsible for every infirmity of judgment that may exist in the association is an extreme to which no man of sound judgment can lend himself. There will be flawless fellowship in the perfect state. Perhaps it is the admiration of this in prospect that leads some to insist upon it now. But it is none the less a mistake. This is a mixed and preparatory state in which much has to be put up with when true principles are professed. Judas was a thief, and Jesus knew it, but tolerated him till he manifested himself. Was Jesus responsible while he fellowshipped him? Certainly not. Judas was qualified for the fellowship of the apostolic circle by his endorsement of the common professed objects of its existence, viz., the proclamation of the Gospel of the Kingdom in conjunction with Jesus as the accepted “Christ, the Son of the living God.” His thieving character did not exclude him from that circle till he went and hanged himself. There were men among the Corinthian brethren who denied the resurrection: did Paul charge the brethren with complicity with that heresy because of the presence of such among them? Doubtless their rejection of the resurrection nullified their claims for that place, but still it did not make the true brethren guilty of their false doctrine while merely tolerating them, pending an appeal to Paul. If a man lend himself to the evil projects of others and wish them well in them, no doubt they are as responsible for those projects as if they actually promoted them with their own personal labours. This is the principle to which John gives expression when he says, “He that biddeth him (the holder of false doctrine) God-speed, is partaker of his evil deeds.” But the principle is carried too far when it is made applicable to the individual diversities and idiosyncrasies of a community concurring in a common object and a common doctrine and a common service, and having fellowship one with another in the promotion of these common things. Men thus associated together are not responsible for each other’s peculiarities or doubtful thoughts on matters of uncertain detail. They are responsible only for what they wittingly espouse. They would be responsible for the admission of a Mahometan, or a Papal idolator, or an orthodox denier of the Gospel, as such. They are not responsible for every shade of opinion that may dwell in the breast of a man admitted on account of his professed subjection to the truth. It is nothing but monstrous to contend for a fellowship-responsibility of this sort. In fact, it would make fellowship impossible. It would turn ecclesial life into an intolerable inquisition, instead of a source of comfort and edification and help and joy, from the sharing of a common faith. It is asked, Why did you take such strong ground then, with regard to fellowship, on the question of inspiration? Wise men do not require an answer. If there are those who feel they require it, here it is. The question of the inspiration of the Bible is a question of whether it is God speaking or man: a question of whether we may trust absolutely to what we read as of divine authority, or whether it may possibly be the vagaries of unenlightened human brains. Such a question goes right to the foundation. It is the first of all first principles, for without the absolute reliability of the Bible, there is no such thing as a first principle possible. For any doubt to exist on this question was to render fellowship impossible on various strong grounds. Such a doubt was raised in harmony with the widespread rot that prevails under various learned auspices in the religious world. It was espoused warmly by some in our midst; by many 105 others who do not profess to receive it there was an unwillingness to refuse it fellowship. Consequently, we had either to tolerate the currency of a doctrine quietly and gradually destructive of all truth in our midst, or refuse to have anything to do with it, and stop up all leak-holes by insisting not only on the right doctrine, but on the refusal of toleration to the wrong. To contend for the equal applicability of such measures to the question of the responsibility of rebels and unbelievers, does certainly seem to indicate an inability to distinguish between things that differ. A brother’s uncertainties on the subject is an affair of interpretation of the Lord’s acknowledged word. He does not deny the Lord’s utterances: he asks what do they mean? This is a position to be treated in a very different manner from the attitude that calls in question the authenticity of the Lord’s words. And any misapprehension he may labour under as to the meaning of the words does not affect any general truth in the case, but merely the application of said truth in detail. He does not say, “I believe rebels and unbelievers will go unpunished if they are not baptised.” He says, “I certainly believe they will be punished, whether baptised or not, in all cases in which the Lord thinks they are deserving of it. But,” adds he, “I see the Lord makes blindness a reason for exemption, and ignorance of the words and works of Christ a reason for exemption. And therefore I feel in a state of uncertainty as to how much the Lord will punish various classes of unbelievers in a day like ours when all is so dark.” To apply to such a position the stringent measures called for by the denial of the complete inspiration of the Bible indicates a foginess of mental vision. Upon which, there rises the exclamation: “How are the mighty fallen! What a change in the position of brother Roberts with reference to the question of fellowship!” We can endure such objurgations because they come from the mouths of well-meaning men, and because they are based upon entire misapprehension. We have changed in nothing since the day we commenced the active service of the truth. In the beginning, we had to deal with men who were prepared to compromise first principles in fellowship. To every disease its own remedy. We took a line of argument suitable to the exigency. But now, there is another extreme of an equally destructive character in another way. It is an extreme requiring another kind of argument. Have we changed because we take a line of argument suited to a new dilemma? There are several sides to a camp. When the attack is on the north, the troops are sent that way in defence. Is the general inconsistent because when the attack next time comes from the west, he withdraws his troops from the north, and sends them to the new point of attack? We are sorry for all the brethren affected by the varying tactics of error (for this is an error of action of a very serious character: if it is not an error of doctrine). It is an offence against the little ones believing in Christ, of which he expressed such great jealousy. It may be forgiven as Paul’s persecution of the disciples was forgiven: but for the time being, it is a grave offence which we refuse to share. There is nothing for it but to wait. We are all helpless in these periodic fermentations, and must bear them as well as we can, and come through them with as little friction as possible in comforting prospect of the master hand that will soon take the helm, and give to the world peace, after storm; and to his accepted brethren, rest after the exhausting toils of this great and terrible wilderness.—EDITOR. The Christadelphian (April, 1891) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1891, p. 149-150 (He is not ashamed to call them brethren.—Heb. 2:11.) April, 1891 God has been pleased to subject those who desire to conform to His word to what sometimes amounts to painful embarrassment, by having required of them things that at first sight are incompatible with one another. They are to do good to all men, and yet to be not unequally yoked with unbelievers. 106 They are to be “in the world” and yet to “come out from among them and be separate.” They are to love their enemies and yet to love not the world. They are to be patient with the erring and yet to abhor that which is evil, and not to bear with men that are evil. They are to think no evil and yet to try professors. They are to submit to wrong and yet to refuse even to eat with men called brethren who espouse wrong doing, or error. They are to show hospitality and yet to receive not into their houses those who bring not the doctrine of Christ. There is, doubtless, an object in prescribing these apparently conflicting duties. It sets up contrary mental currents that at last bring about a fine equilibrium of character which would not be attainable if duty lay all in one direction. But often the effort to conform brings distress, and it is impossible not to feel pity for men sacrificing one duty in their endeavour to conform to another. These thoughts are suggested by an effort in Lincoln, which may be well meant enough in some directions, but which cannot receive favour from a complete enlightenment. It is an effort that tacitly invites us to repudiate the policy of insisting upon a wholly-inspired and infallible Bible as the basis of fellowship, by adopting a “basis of fellowship” that omits it. This document is most plausible in its wording, as all efforts in a wrong direction are; but in its meanings and implications, it is far worse than its promulgators probably intend or have any idea of. It formulates an impossible rule of withdrawal, which turns the ecclesia into a judgment seat of the Papistical order. The apostolic rule is to “withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly,” and from those who teach heresy, without reference to the question of what the Lord may finally think of them. And this rule is defensive in its bearing, not offensive. It means that we are not to be partakers of other men’s sins. John lays down the axiom that He that receives the holder of wrong doctrine or practices partakes of their evil deeds. In withdrawing, we wash our own hands. We leave to God those whom we withdraw from. We are not authorised to judge or condemn them. But this document lays it down that we must not withdraw, unless we are prepared to maintain that the cause of withdrawal will make salvation impossible. This would erect an ecclesia into a spiritual judicature, deciding questions which the Lord has reserved for himself. The document proposes “union with all who have not forfeited their right to the fully assured salvation.” How can such rule be carried out? How can we know who have and who have not forfeited the said right? It is calling upon us to pronounce on a matter beyond our jurisdiction, and that has been placed beyond it by the express command to “judge not,” “condemn not.” The time for withdrawal is when men drift into unscriptural attitudes of faith or practice. These we note and separate ourselves from, without reference to the question of whether the offenders can be saved, which we cannot decide. And the withdrawal is not putting them out but going out ourselves, as the term implies. We simply go away, saying we cannot be responsible. The attitude prescribed by this “basis” would place the ecclesia in a chair of authority, with power of excommunication, arrogating the right to “cut off” or say the excommunicated cannot be saved. Faithful men are more truly modest, while more uncompromising towards departure from the faith than the sentiments that inspire this basis. Faithful men say, “we have no power to cut off: Christ will do that. But we have power to withdraw; and this we will do with however much reluctance and pain, when the Word of God and its obligations are tampered with by whomsoever.” We will exercise this liberty unhampered by any assumptions as to the position of those who have technically “responded to the Gospel call.” The basis declares that all such are “in union and fellowship with the Father.” This is not true. There were many in the apostolic age who had “obeyed the Gospel call,” whom the Apostles repudiated as “enemies of the cross of Christ” (Phil. 3:18)—spots in their feasts of charity (Jude 12); who claimed to be Jews but were not, but lied (Rev. 3:9). 107 It is a fundamental principle as to the operations of the gospel, that “many are called but few are chosen,” and that “all are not Israel that are of Israel.” This is a principle which we cannot apply, and which we are not called upon to apply. We do not know who will be chosen of those who have been called. We have nothing to do with saying who will and who will not be saved, as regards profession of the truth. The thing we have to do is to take care of our own standing in relation to the prevailing corruptions. We refuse to be implicated in these, while entertaining the very best wishes concerning all men. We mingle with Bible charity the most decisive resolution not to be compromised by any class of men, whether they have gone through “the waters of baptism” or no. Unless we observed this apostolically prescribed scrupulosity, the truth would soon be suffocated and disappear. Men who decline it are the enemies of the truth without intending it perhaps—all which will appear in a very plain light when the expediencies of the passing mortal hour are at an end in the manifested presence of the author of the seven messages to the ecclesias. Notes (“Progress”) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1890, p. 440 B. W.—“Progress” is a nice watchword, but it is possible to mistake retrogression for progression. This mistake is being made by all who regard partial inspiration and the loosing of the bonds and conditions of fellowship as evidence of progress. We are not ashamed to profess our identity with the standfast party. Why should we move away from what we are certain about? And do you think, if we were not certain, that we should stand aloof from popular circles into which we have many times been invited? Do you say we cannot be certain? Then we differ. There is an ever-learning and never attaining class—everdebating and never settling—at home in endless froth-plungings like dogs in a puddle. They were extant in Paul’s day; they have not ceased since; they are active now. If you cannot recognise them, we do not quarrel with you; but we cannot deny our own senses. We must perforce exercise the prerogative of discrimination, and, knowing the right road in the dark, take it. Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue, Birmingham. – No. 49 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1873, p. 549-552 “Exhort one another daily.”—PAUL. 2 JOHN.—This epistle brings out a few things about “love,” which it is important to recognise. “Love,” in the world, is one thing; “love,” according to the ideal of the sects, another; and the “love” of apostolic discourse, yet another. The two former we may dismiss. The world’s “love” is an ephemeral affair, having its foundation in the instincts, dying with use and age, and passing away in death. Orthodox “love” is a sickly distortion, lacking the elements that give strength and comeliness to the “love” of the Scriptures. It works spiritual mischief now, and is destined hereafter to vanish like smoke. The “love” of John’s epistles has foundations, without which it cannot exist. This partly comes out in the very first sentence of this second epistle: “The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love IN THE TRUTH.” Outside the truth, a brother’s love is not operative. He loves not the world, neither the things that are in the world, remembering that “if any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.”—(1 Jno. 2:15.) His friendships are bounded by the truth, as regards both men and things. In Christ, he is a “new 108 creature.”—(2 Cor. 5:17). After the flesh, he knows no man. The friendship of the world is enmity with God.—(James 4:4.) Therefore, he cultivates no friendship with those who know not God, and obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. His love is bounded by the truth. Does he, therefore, shut up his bowels of compassion against those who are without God? By no means. He recognises the obligation put upon him by the same law, to salute not his brethren only, but to do good unto all men, as he has opportunity, even to his enemies. But there is a difference between doing good to unbelievers and cultivating friendship with them; and the saint is careful to observe this difference, lest he come under the rebuke that greeted the ears of Jehoshaphat, on his return from friendly co-operation with Ahab: “Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them who hate the Lord? Therefore is wrath upon thee from before the Lord.”—(2 Chron. 19:2.) We can have our conversation towards the world in all courtesy and benevolence, without going on to their ground, and joining affinity in schemes of pleasure, profit, or friendship. The “love” that belongs to the household of faith is “for the truth’s sake that dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.” This is John’s definition of its source and scope. Everyone that is truly of the household, responds instinctively to it. To the carnal mind it appears very “narrow,” but this is an illusion of ignorance. It is the true breadth, for it relates to that which shall be for ever, while the world, which would have us unequally yoked, passeth away. The truth connects us with “the shoreless ocean of eternity,” while the friendship of the world is confined to “a narrow neck of land”—the brief existence of this animal probation. The (presently) “narrow” operation of apostolic “love” is also founded in wisdom; for unrestricted friendship with the world is full of danger: it draws away from the fear of God, the hope of the calling, and the holiness of the Master’s house, “whose house are we, if we hold fast the beginning of our confidence steadfast unto the end.” It is, therefore, a snare; pleasant and advantageous meantime, but having the suction of the maelstrom with it, drawing us to death; for when the Lord of Light stands on earth, to set in order destiny, according to the Father’s purpose, the world will have, from his presence, “fled away.” John rejoiced concerning those to whom he wrote that he had found them “walking in the truth.” Saints walk not otherwise. Their actions, plans of life, friendships, aims, enterprises, hopes—everything connected with them, in some way or other comes from, originates in, and is comformed to the truth. The truth is their inspiration—the controlling life-stream. “If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature”—not that all answer to this. There are professors who serve not our Lord Jesus, but themselves; but such are abortions and bastards. None but sons will be mustered in the day of the 144,000. They are few now, as they have always been, and the world “knoweth” them not in many senses; but they know what they are about. They are not dreaming; they are not fanatics. They are the children of wisdom; and wisdom is justified of them all, though they may be hard to read sometimes. They understand the world too well to be entrapped into its fellowship. They are known of God, and will be publicly revealed in due time, in glory, honour and immortality. Meanwhile, they “walk in the truth.” On this ground they are to be met and understood. Approached on any other ground, they will seem not what they are. They are not to be comprehended “after the flesh.” “This is love,” says John, “that we walk after his commandments.” No man loves after the Spirit’s fashion who disobeys. Apostolic “love” is that state of enlightenment and appreciation in relation to the things of God that impels a man to be “a doer of the word.” John gives this an application that was special to his day; and yet not special, as it is appropriate wherever the same need and the same danger manifest themselves. “This is the commandment,” he says, “that AS ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.” We are wondering what he means when presently the light dawns; “for, many deceivers are entered into the world who confess not that Jesus is come in the flesh.” He means that they should hold fast to the doctrine of Christ as originally delivered; because many were drawing the disciples away therefrom. The obedience of this commandment is the evidence of New Testament “love,” and it is also necessary for our acceptable standing before the presence of the Lord’s glory at his 109 coming. This is John’s view, as evident from the words immediately following: “Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought; but that we receive a full reward.” There would have been no need for these words if the things that had been “wrought” were not imperilled by the doctrine of the deceivers of which he is speaking. He indicates, in strong language, the consequences to the individual ensnared by the deceivers: “Whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God.” This may seem a strange saying in view of the fact that the “deceivers” referred to believed in one God, the Creator of heaven and earth; and also in Christ, after their own fashion. But the apparent strangeness disappears when we look closely at the matter John is writing about. To “have” God in the sense of John’s words, is to stand in His favour, both now and hereafter. All things are in His goodness. As David says, “Thy goodness is over all Thy works:” but the goodness of God in common benefits that come upon all alike, is a different thing from that personal “favour” which guides, attends, and prospers (even if by chastisement), with a view to a perpetual sonship in the Spirit nature. The enjoyment of this favour is a thing of conditions. One of those conditions is a recognition of the channel in which He offers it. Out of Christ, sinners cannot come near. They have the goodness of God as creatures, like the sparrows, not one of which can fall to the earth without the Father’s knowledge; but they are not in the privilege of children. They have not the Father’s favour and purpose concerning the ages to come. This is only to be enjoyed in Christ; but even here, it must be the Christ of God’s appointing. Any other than this is presumption, and a mockery of His wisdom; and they who teach otherwise than the truth concerning Christ, preach another Christ, though it be intended to refer to the Christ of Nazareth. This is evident from the case of those to whom John is referring. They believed that the person known as Jesus of Nazareth was the Christ; but in their reasonings upon him, they reasoned away the truth about him, and consequently believed and preached another Jesus than the Son of the Father. There were different sorts of the class, but all their heresies had a common origin, viz., an attempt to bring the mystery of Godliness within the rules of human reason, instead of accepting the testimony with humble and childlike simplicity. One set argued that such a character as Jesus was a moral impossibility in flesh and blood, and that, therefore, his whole life was a mere accommodation on the part of a spiritual being to the senses of mortals. Another believing him to be flesh and blood philosophized in a contrary direction, concluding that as such, he must, from the nature of things, have been a “mere man.” and that the idea of his being God in flesh-manifestation, was preposterous. The Papal breed blended the two, and taught that though flesh, his flesh was not the corrupt and mortal flesh of men, but a superior, clean, “immaculate” sort. In our own day, as recent painful experience has made us aware, a class of believers are treading the same dangerous ground, in teaching that the flesh of Jesus was destitute of that which, in the flesh of his brethren, constitutes the cause or source of mortality. In relation to all of them, John’s declaration reveals the mind of the Spirit: “Whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.” The doctrine of Christ is that he is God made and manifested in the mortal flesh of Abraham’s race for the deliverance thereof, on his own principles, from “that having the power of death.” Those who hold fast to this have both the Father and the Son; for in Jesus they have the Son, and the Father manifest in him. As to those who “bring not this doctrine,” John’s commandment is: “Receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed!” This command we can no more evade than any other commandment delivered unto us. The obedience of it may cost us something. It is crucifying to the flesh to refuse friends—some of them excellent people as human nature goes—who in one way or other have been seduced from their allegiance to the doctrine of Christ; but there is no alternative. Friends are but for a moment; the truth is for ever; and if we sacrifice our duty to the latter from regard to the former, the latter will sacrifice us in the day of its glory, and hand us over to the destiny of the flesh, which as the grass, will pass away. 110 “He that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” This applies to all without distinction, and erects a barrier to fellowship with even some who hold the truth; for though they may hold the doctrine of Christ themselves, yet if they keep up a “God-speed” connection with those who don’t, by John’s rule, they make themselves partakers with them, and therefore cut themselves off from those who stand for the doctrine of Christ. The epistle, as a whole, is singularly applicable to the situation in which we find ourselves this morning. We have been obliged to stand aside for the doctrine of Christ from some we love. The epistle of John justifies us in our course, both as regards those who have departed from the doctrine of Christ, and those who, while holding on to it themselves, see not their way to break connection with those who have departed. It is a painful situation, but we must not falter, nor need we fear or be discouraged. God is with us in the course of obedience, and we shall see His blessing in the increase in our midst, of zeal and holiness, and love and preparedness for the great day of the Lord, which is at hand. From Birmingham to New York and Back By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1888, p. 40 (Excerpt) I was reminded of a similar arrival nearly seventeen years since when the Minnesota conveyed brother Bosher and myself to New York, to perform the sad duties consequent on Dr. Thomas’s death. Dr. Thomas has been nearly seventeen years in his grave. There have been many changes within that period. In the political sphere, Dr. Thomas’s prophetic expectations have been verified in a variety of points. The French empire has disappeared. Russia has been at the gates of Constantinople with Turkey under her feet; Egypt has been occupied by Britain; and a great stimulus has been given to the development of Palestine and the Jewish colonization of that land. In the affairs of the truth, there have been vicissitudes—some pleasant and some painful. Its friends are vastly more numerous than they were at the time of Dr. Thomas’s death. On the other hand, progress has been checked by internal convulsions. The formal renunciation of a vital element of the truth concerning the sacrifice of Christ, and more recently, the formal promulgation of the doctrine that the Bible is only partly inspired and marred by errors due to the participation of human authorship, have caused division and alienation. The blame of the dissension lies with those who set the cause in motion and not with those whom that cause left no alternative but action against it. Supineness of action might have preserved the union of persons but it would have been at the expense of purity and spiritual strength on the only basis that can hold people profitably together. Both defections have been characterized by an animus against Dr. Thomas’s writings—severe enough indeed to have brought those writings into discredit if not into disuse. Events have justified the Providential arrangements by which their continuous publication has been secured against the hostility of such as have only partly loved or partly understood the truth which the author of those writings has been instrumental in reviving in our day and generation. For how much longer they will be wanted, God only knoweth and will provide: but this is certain that very shortly (as it will appear to each person concerned), the servants faithful and unfaithful will find themselves solemnly confronted with the issues of present life when the true nature of their several parts will be made manifest, not only in the presence of the dead brought to life again, but in the presence of multitudes of the heavenly host, with Christ, for God, presiding over all. 111 The Question of the Inspiration of the Bible By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 165-167 Some say, Why make this a question of fellowship? They have their answer when the nature of fellowship is discerned. Briefly defined, it is co-operative association on the basis of identical convictions in reference to the matter that is the subject of association. Men may and do associate on various foundations, but agreement as to the foundation is the essence of their association or fellowship. On anything outside this foundation, they may “agree to differ,” as the saying is; but as to the foundation, there must be unanimity, or there can be no association. Now, as brethren of Christ, the ground of our association is most briefly defined in the apostolic phrase “The Truth.” This comprehends many items or ingredients. There are such as are first and such as are middle and last, but all are essential to the completeness of the whole as a basis of association. Now, if there is one among them more fundamental than another, in an age like ours, when the voice of God is silent for a season, it is the question of the estimate in which we are to hold the Bible. Apart from the Bible, we have no access to any of the elements that go to make up the system of the truth. From the nature of things, therefore, the character of the Bible is the very first question that presents itself, whether in the individual investigations that lead to the acceptance of the truth, or in the settlement of those concurring views which constitute the basis of fellowship. There is a great diversity of view in the world as to the character of the Bible. We have only to imagine any of them introduced among those whose basis of fellowship is, first of all, the divine character of the Bible, to see how naturally and inevitably they would become questions of fellowship. Everyone would readily see this in the case of the extremer views, entertained either by the gross Bradlaugh school, or the more refined class of philosophical speculators who follow the lead of Herbert Spencer. And it only requires the exercise of reason to see that all views below the divine level necessarily act in the same way, where there are those who possess that perfect confidence in and reverence for the Scriptures that lead to an entire affection, and daily and hourly intimacy with their contents. The doctrine of the partial inspiration of the Scriptures is the first step (and a longer one than is at first apparent)—towards uncertainty of any inspiration, and away from inspiration, we are away from the foundation of all obedience and hope. Some seek to attenuate the gravity of the matter by speaking of it as a mere question of “theory.” This a misconception altogether. The question is a question of fact, not of theory. There is a radical difference between fact and theory. A fact and a theory of a fact are two different things. It might be illustrated by the electric telegraph. A man receives a message from the other side the Atlantic to tell him an unexpected fortune has fallen to him under the will of a man just dead. The man may have no knowledge of how the message has been transmitted. Walking from his house to a lawyer’s office with a friend equally uninformed with himself, they may both talk the matter over, and each have his different theory of how it is done. Their theories are immaterial so long as they believe that the message that takes them to the lawyer’s office has really come four thousand miles through the sea in a few minutes of time. But suppose it were suggested that the entire message had not come across the sea, but had been partly concocted in the telegraph office by the clerk who wrote the message, a very different question would be introduced, having very different bearings. It would then be a question of fact affecting the value of the message in a very important manner, A theory of how the message had come would be a matter of absolute indifference in the case: a question of whether it had completely come, would vitally concern all parties. This is the issue raised in the unhappy controversy that the Lord has permitted to arise in our midst. It is not a question of how the Scriptures have been wholly given by inspiration of God, but whether they 112 have been so. Let it be admitted that the Scriptures are wholly inspired, and any theory of how God has secured for us this glorious result becomes a mere speculative question of little moment—a matter of “theory.” Deny that they are wholly inspired, and it is a fact that is denied, and not a theory, and that, too, a fact of vital character, as has been before shewn. The basis of fellowship is disintegrated by such a denial, and cannot be restored except by the abandonment of the denial. In the presence of these thoughts, it is easy to see in its proper light the resolution that has been adopted by the Birkenhead ecclesia, of which bro. Ashcroft is a member. This resolution is as follows:— “That this Ecclesia feels it to be its solemn duty to the cause of Christ to denounce the attempt at disturbing the peace and unity of the Churches, as now agitated by the Editor of The Christadelphian, on ‘Theories of Inspiration’ (or any other Theory), and hereby records its determination to resist interference with its ecclesial affairs, of any self-constituted authority: it also records its conviction that the day has arrived when a Conference of Delegates from the various ecclesias should meet and undertake the responsibilities of directing the interests of the truth, and so prevent, in its insipient stage, the possibility of a double fulfilment of Dan. 7:20–21 in these days, in our midst.” Sadness of heart allows but a remark or two on this composition, which, though in form the resolution of an ecclesia (a small body of 20 or 30 members, if we are not mistaken) is bro. Ashworth’s utterance. 1. It is not the Editor of the Christadelphian that has disturbed the ecclesias, but bro. Ashcroft, by denying the complete inspiration of the Scriptures. In the measures forced upon us by the promulgation of this theory to the four winds, we have been helpless, unless we had, for temporal reasons, consented to be faithless to what seemed to us the call of duty. We had every natural reason to refrain from these measures. They have cost us all that we feared, in the loss of friendship and support, and we have probably not yet seen the worst. 2. The resolution makes “theories of inspiration” a matter of indifference, When it is realised that the Bible’s preciousness depends upon its inspiration: i.e., its reliability as the embodiment of the mind of God,—to treat this feature of it as a matter of indifference must appear to be trifling with the subject. The resolution tacitly says, “You may believe what you like as to the inspiration of the Bible.” Earnest men could not accept such a basis of fellowship. If the Bible is not absolutely reliable, we have no reason for separating ourselves from society and declining the entrances to its honours and emoluments. Read “theories of reliability” for “theories of inspiration,” and the true nature of the position taken by the resolution will be manifest. 3. It is very proper for an ecclesia to “resist interference with its ecclesial affairs.” The determination on this head, which the resolution expresses, is, however, somewhat ambiguous in its bearing. It is aimed at the Editor of the Christadelphian, of course; but it is hard to see how it applies, unless it refer to the conducting of the Christadelphian. The Editor of the Christadelphian has never interfered in the affairs of the Birkenhead ecclesia, or any other ecclesia. He has several times attended ecclesial meetings in various parts of the country, by request, to take part with them in the disentanglement of ecclesial difficulties: but this could not justly be characterised as “interference.” It was co-operation in a perfectly brotherly spirit, with brotherly results, and with the reverse of gratification to us in every case, except in so far as good was achieved. If it refer to the conducting of the Christadelphian, the complaint is still more destitute of reasonable ground. The Editor in all cases has only exercised the lawful prerogative of an editor. He has “edited” the contents of the magazine from the point of view of the objects at which it aims. This cannot be held to be an interference in any ecclesia’s affairs. Each ecclesia does its own untrammelled part; and the Editor of the Christadelphian does his. It will be an unspeakable relief when the need for either part has ceased in the manifestation of the personal superintendence of the appointed judge; but while the need continues, what reasonable man would object to its faithful exercise in the spirit of mutual respectful independence and consideration? A paper cannot be 113 conducted by many hands. Under any arrangement, the ultimate management falls into a single pair. Editing by committee is a performance which must end in abortion where it is not a pretence. 4. The last point has two features, only one of which calls for serious notice: that is, the proposal that “a conference of delegates from the various ecclesias should meet and undertake the responsibility of directing the interests of the truth.” It is impossible to offer too strenuous an opposition to such a proposal. It is a proposal that will not be accepted by enlightened believers in Christ who discern the true mission of the truth in its present stage; the nature and difficulty of the situation in which its work has to be done in these latter days; and the tendencies involved in the unapostolic and ambitious machinery proposed. The principle of ecclesial independence has been clearly recognised and sacredly upheld among us hitherto as a principle vital to the objects of the truth in the development of brethren and sisters in the simple ways of faith, in preparation for the coming of Christ. The abandonment of this principle—the surrender of self-government into the hands of a “conference,”—would be a long further stride towards that apostacy from apostolic principles which many fear is already begun in our midst. To consent to such a machinery would be to create an abstraction which would work mischief in a variety of ways. It would divert the minds of the brethren from the simple regulation of their own affairs: and introduce an outside source of debate and appeal. The “conference” would be before their minds in all their dealings, giving scope to unruly spirits to gratify their love of contention in the complicating of affairs that ought to be simple. And, worse still, it would put into the hands of those who are at home in the carnal arts of factious organisation, and manipulating of votes, a machinery which would inevitably work for the corruption and destruction of the truth in its faith and practice. It would organise a tyranny over ecclesial and individual life. It, at the same time, would open out a sphere at present closed to ecclesiastical ambitions. “Presidents” and “secretaries” would acquire a factitious importance that would soon ripen into the pretensions of clericalism; and the simple ways of the truth, which afford scope only for pure-minded, self-denying service, would soon be overwhelmed and destroyed by the flesh-glorifying and unapostolic officialism which prevails with such fatal effects in all branches of the ecclesiastical world from which we have been delivered. Faithful men will refuse to be compromised in such a plausible device. It may find favour with such as either lack experience in the working of spiritual things, or who have a defective sympathy with truly spiritual objects. Men of another stamp will say with brother Sulley: “For me, no compromise with ‘conference’ plan; it means spiritual death.” It is all very well for brethren to meet as spiritual units, to hold intercourse on the basis of the truth alone, on the model of fraternal gatherings such as frequently take place: in this there is advantage and profit. Introduce the “delegate” feature, for the organic assumption of “responsibilities” that already (and in a healthy form) rest on every individual shoulder that bears the yoke of Christ, and you introduce a leaven of corruption that will slowly work destruction and death. The following paragraph from the Guide embodies the view heretofore accepted among the brethren on this subject: Sect. 44.—“Fraternal Gatherings from various places.—These are beneficial when restricted to purely spiritual objects (i.e. let the brethren assemble anywhere, from anywhere, and exhort or worship or have social intercourse together): but they become sources of evil if allowed to acquire a legislative character in the least degree. Ecclesial independence should be guarded with great jealousy, with the qualifications indicated in the foregoing sections. To form ‘unions’ or ‘societies of ecclesias’ (and it may be added, ‘conferences’) in which delegates should frame laws for the individual ecclesias would be to lay the foundation of a collective despotism which would interfere with the free growth and the true objects of ecclesial life. Such collective machineries create fictitious importances, which tend to suffocate the truth. All ecclesiastical history illustrates this.” 114 Judas, Fellowship, Debt, and Kindness By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1872, p. 532-533 L. C. B.—Judas outwardly conformed to the precepts of the Master during the three years and a half that he sustained the part of “one of the twelve.” Otherwise his place among the preachers of repentance would have been forfeited. If Judas had manifested himself, or rather had been manifested by circumstances, before the terrible disclosure of his avarice in the betrayal of the Lord, we cannot conceive of the continuance of a fellowship which had its basis in righteousness. Jesus knew him, but did not act on knowledge which could not have been appreciated by either Judas or the other disciples. He waited till Judas should reveal himself, which is the divine procedure with us all. Though a thief he perpetrated his embezzlements under pious pretences; “Ought not this ointment to have been sold for three hundred pence and given to the poor?” So that his fellow disciples took him for an exemplary companion. The parallel in our day is that when a man’s known actions are in harmony with the word, we may not discard him from our fellowship, however dubious we may feel about his character. When a man manifests himself, the case is different. If a man professing godliness become “known as a dishonest man,” we are bound, as we value our own standing in the sight of God, to stand aloof from him. Any other course would implicate us in his unrighteousness. “He that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” If this is true in a case of perverse doctrine, it is tenfold more so in a case of unrighteous action. A community permitting in their midst the unchallenged presence and fellowship of a proved worker of iniquity, is stamped with the infamy they tolerate, and isolated from all lovers of holiness. God will not smile while there is such an Achan in the camp. But, of course, we must be careful in the application of the principle. There are many disputes in which charges of dishonesty are mere matters of construction, requiring careful investigation before a just result could be arrived at. Anger on both sides helps a mutually false colouring. This requires skilful handling. It no doubt frequently happens in the present state of affairs, that there are none in a company of believers capable of conducting such an investigation with the judicial calmness and discernment requisite to arrive at a just judgment. This is one of the sore evils of the present time. What can be done in such a case but for the aggrieved to hold their wrongs in abeyance till the Lord comes, who will make manifest the hidden things of dishonesty? It would be a pity in such a case—(unrighteousness in the abstract being repudiated; and fellowshipped, if the case be such, by a mistake of judgment only)—to resort to the unavailing remedy of separation. It would be better rather to suffer wrong and be under a cloud, than to consume our privacy in bootless sorrow, and be found isolated from the institutions of the Lord. As to such as deliberately don’t pay their debts, they are to be avoided as the plague. This is the moral—or, rather, the immoral feature, as one would say—which the Spirit singles out, by which to describe the wicked, in Psalm 37.: “The wicked borroweth and payeth not again.” The duty of believers in this matter, under the apostolic precepts, is even placed higher than repayment; and that is, not borrowing at all. “Owe no man anything.” When we realise the state of perfect friendliness that God designs to prevail in the body of Christ, we cease to wonder at this precept. For on both sides, borrowing is a bad thing. It is bad for the borrower; for it maketh him servile to the lender, and putteth him under a bondage that he finds as difficult to rid himself of as he found it easy to take on. The sweetness with which he eased his difficulty by the loan is shortlived and paid for bitterly by many groans, unless he have no conscience and is indifferent, and in that case he is a scoundrel. The evil to the lender is that it gives him a something to think about that is not pleasant, but a little charged with anxiety, and a something that will keep coming between him and his friend, not seriously, not a very dark cloud, but a little vapour that dims the light and chills the air, and then it is a vapour that has the tendency about it, if 115 not removed as it only can be, to get denser and larger until sometimes it overspreads the sky with tempest. The men who get into debt, and make no exertions to meet the waiting expectation of creditors, are the worst species of robbers. An honest thief goes straight to his business, and you know, to be off; but the gentleman in question comes with sleek proposals in his mouth, adding falsehood to robbery, and catching you in a snare instead of a fair fight. ‘The wholesome rule is, give; don’t lend. “Give to him that asketh,” but “hope for nothing again.” This cuts short the transaction, and destroys its sting; for no hurtful effects can afterwards come on either side from a gift. Such as desire to obey the truth, must remember that one of the commands of the truth is to “Owe no man anything;” and that if they mean what they propose, they cannot do better, if loaded with obligations and a bad reputation, than begin by clearing off the account and starting straight. Let them bring forth fruits meet for repentance before proposing to take the holy name. We have to deny ourselves when we cannot get on without getting into debt. Debt is a great nightmare and a devil, and so are all who heedlessly plunge therein. Intelligence (Ecclesial Notes) (Defining Their Position) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1887, p. 328-329 (Berean misrepresentations of this quote are addressed here) The usual paragraphs, setting forth the dates, subjects and deliverers of lectures for the month, are on this occasion omitted for economy of space. A brother laments the frivolity of some conversations he hears at tea-gatherings of brethren and sisters. He would like it altered. He would like every assembly to be pervaded by the spirit of wisdom and sobriety. Every true brother of Christ will sympathise with his wish in the matter. But how is a change to be brought about? It is best not to expect much as regards others, but for every brother and sister who sees the evil and desires what ought to be to determine that, so far as they are concerned, they will contribute none of the nonsense, but will conform always to the apostolic injunction which requires us to let our speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt. It is very certain that none but those who so conform will be found suitable for the Lord’s work when he comes, and none but the suitable will be accepted. The root of the matter lies in the mind. What is in will come out. If minds are empty and in sympathy only with the trivialities of life, the open mouth will give accordingly. If the heart is stored with wisdom, there is a chance of the mouth speaking the same. The true cure therefore is to be found in the daily and private cultivation of the heart in the direction of wisdom, and this is best accomplished by continuous reading and prayer. Some inaccurate ideas appear to be entertained by some on the subject of fellowship. They think they are not in fellowship with a meeting or ecclesia if they do not pay or receive a visit from it, and that they are only in fellowship with those actually in their midst. If this were correct, there would be no fellowship “one with another” in personal absence, whereas John declares this to have been the case with those from whom he was personally absent. Fellowship is that recognised mutual relation of harmony that only waits the opportunity of personal intercourse for its fullest enjoyment. This harmony exists or does not exist quite irrespective of the opportunity of its practical illustration. If, therefore, when an ecclesia is asked, “are you in fellowship with the Mormons?” it answers they cannot settle the question as to the Mormons as a body, but must wait for individual Mormons to apply for each individual case to be decided on its own merits, such an answer is an evasion of the question. What holds true concerning the Mormons, is true of the Church of England or of those who will not avow their faith in the infallibility of the Scriptures. An ecclesia that is not able to say whether they are in fellowship with such, but must wait for individual applications, is evidently in such a doubtful relation to the question as to prevent confidence on the part of men of straight purpose. Men do not require to come within so 116 many yards of each other to know whether they are friends. Friendship of this circumscribed order would be a relapse to barbarism. And so a body of men professing to receive the truth in its uncompromised fulness and integrity, do not require to pay or receive visits from another body or members of it, (who are in a doubtful attitude) to say whether they are or are not in fellowship with it. A little reflection on this ought to clear honest men of all difficulty in defining their position—a process which had become necessary before the apostle John closed his eyes. Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 289 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1897, p. 402 (Excerpt) Then there is peace towards the brethren. Jesus enjoined this. “Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace one with another.” This almost follows. It certainly follows among all who are truly at peace with God: for as John says, “He that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.” If two men love God, however much strangers they may be to one another, you have only to bring them together to have two men who will love one another (and love always brings peace). This is how it will be with thousands at the resurrection who never even heard of one another: in different ages they were conformed to a common divine likeness, and the consequence is when they come together, they fuse like drops of water. How complete, how sweet, how lasting is the peace that reigns among men who are all at peace with God. Give them only a common incorruptibility of nature that will exclude the possibility of weariness or death, and their peace is perfect peace that will never be disturbed. This is the peace to which we ultimately stand related in the gospel. But it does not exhaust the peace of God that belongs to probation. We have not only peace with the brethren, but peace with all men—and peace even with our enemies. This may seem to contradict the statement that “in the world, ye shall have tribulation,” but it is “seem” only. The tribulation arises from the hostility of evil men towards ourselves: this we cannot avoid and cannot prevent. But it is not our side of the question. It is the side that belongs to evil men. Our side is how we feel towards them. This is a different side altogether. Christ was a man of sorrow through the oppositions of evil men: but as for his attitude to them, he prayed for them: “Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.” Righteous men suffer at the hands of evil men, but they have none of the vindictive feelings that evil men bear to one another. They do not nurse anger. They do not plot revenge. They are ready even to do them a good turn if they can get the opportunity. They leave them entirely in God’s hands. In this sense, they are at peace with all men; and they reap an advantage from it, for as it is written, “The merciful man doeth good to his own soul,” whereas, “envy slayeth the silly one.” There is a fourth item in the peace that comes with the truth, which is very important: we are at peace with ourselves—I mean each man at peace with himself. This is the meaning of the answer of a good conscience. When a man is enlightened with regard to what God requires of him, and knows that he is daily rendering what is so required, he is at peace in himself. This is a peace, as Jesus said, that the world cannot give: it is usual to add, “and cannot take away,” but Jesus did not say this. It would only be true in a sense. The world certainly cannot take away the peace that righteousness may give, but it may take it away by interfering with those conditions from which peace springs. We are in danger from this interference so long as we are not in the kingdom. Peter speaks of those who, after having “escaped the pollutions of the world,” are “again entangled therein and overcome.” But while the world in this sense may take away peace, it cannot give it. “Vanity and vexation of spirit” is a true description of its ultimate effects on all who yield themselves to its service. The truth can give peace, and in this peace, it can 117 preserve a man amid all the troubles and turmoils of life: not that he will never know trouble. A righteous man cannot be in this present evil world without knowing trouble: but there is a trouble that is outside and a trouble that is inside—as regards causes. Christ’s troubles were great, but they were all outside: inside, peace was his experience: “My peace” as he called it. So it will be with his brethren. They may know trouble among men, but in their own hearts towards God, peace reigns. But even this peace is a thing of conditions; and it is the conditions we have to watch. When have we the greatest peace? Is it not when we see the most clearly and believe the most heartily the things declared to us by the truth? It is the vivid sense of those “things” that imparts peace. When we strongly remember “that God IS, and that He is the rewarder of them that diligently seek Him”: that Christ rose from the dead and ever lives to make intercession for us: and that to them that look for him, he will at last appear for their salvation, we cannot keep experiencing the state of mind we mean by peace. Our peace is endangered when we allow anything to come between our eyes and a discernment of these things. When the vision grows dim, peace grows faint. Preserve the vision in its brightness in reading, prayer, and meditation. Speaking literally, it means the steady recognition of facts. The truth does not consist of fancies, nor does its discernment come from shouting or smiting the breast, or getting up excitement. Truth is a quiet thing of which the understanding lays hold. It consists of many elements which all have their place. The difficulty is to give them that place. It can be done, but not without effort. It is not by keeping foolish company and reading foolish books, and indulging foolish habits, that wisdom is to be preserved, but by the reverse of all these. It is by keeping our eyes on facts that we may remain wise, and by learning to judge between appearances and realities. The present life is but an appearance. It consists of so many pulsations of the heart, so many rushes of the blood, and then all is over. But for the time being, it seems a reality, and most people live under the power of this impression. A True Christadelphian Ecclesia By bro. Lemuel Edward The Christadelphian, 1887, p. 168-170 We republish the following series of scriptural definitions from a pamphlet letter just issued by Bro. J. T. Edwards, of Lanesville, Va., U.S.A. The definitions are not his but those of his father, bro. Lemuel Edwards, M.D., who wrote them for private submission to some leading members of the Lanesville Ecclesia at a certain stage of their troubled experience. They are quoted by the writer of the pamphlet letter in his account of that experience. Readers will probably be of opinion that they are worthy of reproduction in the pages of the Christadelphian:— “A TRUE CHRISTADELPHIAN ECCLESIA.” Such an Ecclesia is based exclusively on the Bible and its doctrines of salvation, as enunciated, for example, in the Apostolic Advocate, Herald of the Future Age, Herald of the Kingdom, and Age to Come, Elpis Israel, Eureka, and other works published by Dr. John Thomas, and also in the numerous works of Robert Roberts, of Birmingham, England, and especially in his Periodical called The Christadelphian, which he has published successively for the last 22 years, and accepted by all true Christadelphians from Hong Kong, South Africa, New Zealand, and Australia to England, Canada, and Texas as the leading organ of the Christadelphian Ecclesias. In these works may be found the Bible doctrines for the salvation of man, and among them the necessary and absolutely essential practical doctrines, without which no Christadelphian Ecclesia can exist. Some of these I may appropriately mention as follow:— 1st. “Love.” 118 The Christadelphian Ecclesia must have Love. “This is my commandment, ” says Jesus, “that ye love one another as I have loved you.” Jno. 15:12; and 14:34–5. “We know that we have passed from death unto life because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. 1. Jno. 3:14, –16. “Above all things, have fervent love among yourselves, for love shall cover the multitude of sins.” 1. Pet. 4:8. “Above all these things put on love which is the bond of perfectness.” Col. 3:14. Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels and have not love, I am become as sounding brass and a tinkling cymbal. 1. Cor. 13:1. “My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue, but in deed and in truth.’ 1. Jno. 3:18–19. It may be objected that we cannot force love, but it should be remembered that love is a spiritual principle required by the law of Christ, and it should be our pleasure to obey that law. If we cannot do this we cannot please him. 2nd. “The Spirit of Christ.” The Christadelphian Ecclesia must have the Spirit of Christ. “If any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his. * * as many as are led by the Spirit of Christ, they are the Sons of God.” Rom. 8:9–14, &c. “And because ye are Sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son in to your hearts crying Abba. Father. “* *” “And if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.” Gal. 4:6–7. “The fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance against which there is no law,” Gal. 5:22–23. The Spirit of Christ is a gentle Spirit, “when he was reviled he reviled not again, when he suffered he threatened not, but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously.” 1. Peter. 2:23. 3rd. “A Living Faith.” The Christadelphian Ecclesia must have a living faith. “As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.” Jas. 2:26. “Without faith it is impossible to please God.” Heb. 11:6. The faith which pleases God is a faith that works—works by love.” Gal. 5:6.—“purifieth the heart.” Act. 15:9, and “overcometh the world.” 1. Jno. 5:4. It does not consist in going to church every Sunday and observing the letter ceremonial of spiritual sacrifices seeming to suffer penance listening to the reading and expounding the Scriptures for an hour. 4th. “Works of the Flesh not tolerated.” The Christadelphian Ecclesia, having crucified the flesh with its affections and lusts, does not tolerate, but sincerely deprecates the works of the flesh as enumerated in Gal. 5:18–21, of which I may appropriately mention hatred, variance, emulations, strife, envyings, revellings, and such like.” It will be observed that the Apostle says with great emphasis that “they that do such things shall not inherit the Kingdom of God.” 5th. “Fellowship in Christ.” The Christadelphian Ecclesia knows that “If we say we have fellowship with Christ and walk in darkness, we lie and do not the truth. “If we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another.” “And truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son, Jesus Christ.” 1. John 1. She knows that righteousness has no fellowship with unrighteousness, no concord with Christ and Belial, no communion with light and darkness. (2 Cor. 6:14.) She knows she walks in the light by keeping the commandments of Christ, who says, “If ye love me, keep my commandments.” “Ye are my friends if ye do whatsoever I command you.” “Why call ye me Lord, Lord, and do not the things I say.” “My mother and my brethren are those who hear the word of God and do it.” Christ’s brethren do not fellowship liars, for “lying lips are an abomination to the Lord,” and no lie is of the Truth. They “have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness,” therefore if a man calls another a liar, and still fellowships him, he is no Christadelphian. The tares and the wheat cannot grow together in Christ. They can, and do, in the world. 6th. “A Spiritual House.” 119 The Christadelphian Ecclesia having a living faith is made up of “lively stones built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.” It is the “Temple of God, and the Spirit of God dwells in it, and if any man defile the Temple of God, him shall God destroy.” Christadelphians are “a people taken out from the Gentiles for the name of the Lord,” knowing that being “Gentiles in the flesh they are without Christ, aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.” They are, therefore, “a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people. That they might show forth the praises of Him who hath called them out of darkness into His marvellous light.” Their citizenship or commonwealth (R.V.) is in Heaven, from whence also they wait for a Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.” Therefore, Christadelphians, while subject for the time being, to “the powers that be,” are not the “sovereign people” themselves, and do not cast their votes for men to represent them in Gentile governments. The right of franchise is spiritually denied them by virtue of their allegiance to the commonwealth of Israel. 7th. “The Bride of Christ.” The Christadelphian Ecclesia is the Bride of Christ, and knows when her Bridegroom comes she must have on the wedding garment, if she would be presented to Him as a glorious Ecclesia, having no spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing, but should be holy, and without blemish. The spots and wrinkles can be obliterated by the righteousness of Christ, who is always our advocate with the Father; provided, we confess and forsake our sins, and pray earnestly for mercy and forgiveness. 8th. “Her Work and Purity.” The Christadelphian Ecclesia is engaged in the work of making ready a people prepared for the Lord, and having a glorious Hope based on great and precious promises, she will purify herself by “purging out the old leaven of malice and wickedness, and keep the feast with unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.” Her work is not a work of ignorance, idleness and indifference, which says “Christ fellowshipped Judas,” “Let the tares and wheat grow together,” “Every one must give an account for himself,” “I have nothing to do with what another says or does,” “Let us have peace,” “You must not judge,” &c. And this, the Ecclesia, or Body of Christ the pillar and ground of the Truth, and the Temple of God in which His Spirit dwells!! 9th. “Her Warfare.” The Christadelphian Ecclesia knows she has a great conflict with foes within and without—the world, the flesh and the devil—the lusts of the flesh—the lust of the eye, and pride of life; and if she can be the victor in the warfare, through Christ who strengtheneth her, she will receive an eternity of blessed life for her reward, and this the gracious gift of God through Christ. She knows the gate is strait and the way narrow that leads to life, and though there be few who find it, she is not discouraged. She strives to the end with an honest, sincere, and pure motive, and what she lacks through the weakness of the flesh, her Redeemer, in whom she trusts, will supply by his all-prevailing righteousness to her unspeakable joy, and everlasting blessedness.” 120 The Christadelphian By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1891, p. 67-68 (He is not ashamed to call them brethren.—Heb. 2:11.) February, 1891 A correspondent sends us an article cut from the Christian Commonwealth of January 15th, with mark at a reference to the Christadelphians. The article is entitled, “Why Men Divide.” It does not expound the subject undertaken. It dogmatises in shallow style, in flowing facile sentences, on a matter requiring deeper penetration than the article-writer evidently possesses. By “men” he means “followers of Christ,” and he thinks they divide because they do not see the advantage of union. At all events, that is what he says. It is a self-evident mistake. No man need go further than his own experience for its confutation. The Christadelphians do not stand off from the general body owning the Christian name from any idea that division is better than union. Speaking for ourselves, we mournfully submit to it as a necessity. Union with the great through would be a present advantage in every sense and way. But it is not a possibility with any man having discernment of what the Spirit teaches and faithfulness to what it requires. There is such a thing as “the truth” whether the common run of men know it or not. There is such a thing is “coming out from among” and “having no fellowship with” the indifference and error and evil that prevail, however many may have become insensible to the obligation. It is the recognition of these that lead to division, and not any insensibility to the advantage of union. The many are indifferent: a few are faithful. Hence the fermentation. It was Christ’s understanding of men and his foresight of the working of things among them, that led him to say, “From henceforth there shall be division.” The result is inevitable in an evil world, so long as there is any faithfulness left. The article writer, arguing in favour of union, says, “. . Christadelphians attracted considerable attention while they were united in their pertinacity: but as soon as they were numerous enough to seem worth counting, schism began, and since that process set in, nothing they have said or done has excited even languid interest.” There is more than one false implication in this sentence. 1. It insinuates that withdrawal from errorists is an evil thing.—This is a fashionable sentiment, but it is not in accord with the mind of Christ, as expressed through the apostles. Love and union are beautiful. They are the most exquisite manifestations of intelligent life possible upon earth, and the earth will yet see their universal triumph when the purpose of God is finished. But meanwhile, there are other duties. The loving John, quoted by the writer, says concerning those who “bring not the doctrine of Christ,” that the faithful are to “Receive them not into their house,” and Jesus, in his message through this same John, commends one ecclesia for acting on this discrimination, and condemns another for not acting on it. To Ephesus he says, “Thou canst not bear them that are evil, but have tried them that say they are apostles, and hast found them liars” (Rev. 2:2). To Thyatira he says, “Thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, who calleth herself a prophetess to teach and seduce my servants, &c.” Schism is the result of acting out these principles, and is a good thing if intelligently and faithfully done. It is a painful and apparently unfriendly process: but there is no choice with those who would be friendly to GOD first. It is one of the bitternesses of the situation that men holding fast by the faith originally delivered should be taunted with the eccentricities of men who were in native darkness a while back, and who, after being honoured by introduction to the light, only used their position to obscure it with their superficialities and worldly affinities. 2. It implies that apart from the divisions which the fermentations of error have produced among us, the truth attracted public notice, and that its success is to be measured by the fact and extent of this notice. On both points, we join issue. The truth never has received a public hearing. It has been an 121 obscure and weak thing from the beginning. From its nature it cannot become popular, because it runs counter to human feeling in so many practical ways not seen at first. Its true friends know this, and they are not working to obtain public success or even public notice. They are simply carrying out orders. Christ calls for the exhibition of the light, and they exhibit it. Their operations in this respect are necessarily misunderstood by the public which judges from its own motives, and cannot judge in any other way. The Christadelphians cannot fail, because they are not aiming at what is humanly considered—“success.” They are simply engaged in doing their duty in the faith of a stupendous worldstunning success which is impending, and which depends on no human effort. Christ will shortly show himself on the earth, and put his hand to the work in a way that will startle so-called “Christian” mankind. True Christadelphians plod away with this in view. For this reason, they cannot be quenched by scorn or crushed by failures of any kind. The very last thing they desire is the attention and patronage of the “public,” which looms so large in all ordinary enterprises. Nothing is so dangerous to the truth as “respectability,” because the truth is a matter of God’s importance, while respectability is an affair of man’s importance. The two cannot work well together. 3. It infers that the truth is less effective now than it has been in unspecified previous times. This is contrary to fact. It is of course a matter difficult to bring to a definite test, but so far as tests can be applied, the result is not in favour of the writer’s suggestion. If some have seceded from us, many have come to us, and the process is steadily going on from month to month without any diminution in the rate of increase. The popular maxim “There are as good fish in the sea as were ever caught,” applies to the sea of human life as well as to the ocean. The well-known maxim is also applicable, “No man is essential.” The truth is a thing of peerless excellence and power: and if some throw it up, their place is soon taken by others who have eyes and hearts; while others again, with intellect enlightened and a-fire, “hold on to the end” with a grip of iron. This process is quietly going on all the world over, while the Athenian newspaper gossips have dismissed “even the languid interest” which the misunderstood operations of the truth at first inspired in their somnolent bosoms. The work is in fact better at the end than at the beginning: for, with some exceptions both ways, the later crop of believers is of a higher moral and intellectual type than those who assented to the truth in the days of its first emergence from the dust. Much, of course, depends upon the individual point of view as to how these things appear: but the facts, taken broadly, justify these rejoinders to the smooth-tongued article in question, which can only weigh with those who are captivated by appearances. Cross Currents in Ecclesial Waters By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1898, p. 126-130 I.—PLEA FOR UNSOUND UNION Before I left Birmingham, I said to brother Walker, “When I am gone there will be proposals for reunion, I have no doubt, with those who went out from us on inspiration. It is a question on which there can be no compromise. You will know how to deal with it.” I had not been many weeks landed in Australia, when a pamphlet was sent out to me which someone had put into circulation, entitled “A plea for unity.” The subject calls for the following remarks:— Unity is a beautiful and desirable thing, but it has conditions that cannot be forced, and it requires no pleas. Where it exists, it asserts itself like a law of nature. Union may require its pleas; it is union the well-meaning brother means. He has used the wrong word. Disunion exists because of the want of unity (oneness of mind). The author of the pamphlet would have the disunity ignored, and the union brought about in spite of it. 122 Union has advantages. There has been much talk of late years of “the re-union of Christendom.” The scheme is favoured by many who would sacrifice oneness of faith (or indeed faith of any kind) for the sake of seeing all sects fused into one church. It was supposed that the Pope himself was in favour of the scheme; so he was, provided all accepted the Roman Catholic faith, in which, so far as theory was concerned, he was more consistent than the rest. Among ourselves, there was a similar movement twenty years ago. Records of it will be found on page 538 of the Christadelphian for 1877—under the heading “Proposal for Re-union.” In that case, the cause of disunion was disunity of mind on the subject of the nature and sacrifice of Christ. The remarks made then are applicable at the present time, when the particular disunion existing is due to disunity of mind on the more serious question of the character of the Holy Scriptures. We remarked then as follows: “Union and peace are results springing from preceding conditions” . . Those from whom separation took place “would rejoice to accept the restoration of fellowship if it were offered on the basis of truth accepted and error discarded: but they cannot accept it on the basis of a form of agreement which would cover up and compromise the real issue. . . To ‘let bygones be bygones’ is a reasonable proposal when the ‘bygones’ are of such a nature as to be sorrowed for and repudiated: but those to whom a return is proposed have no bygones to repent of so far as their course in this particular matter is concerned. They acted with a good conscience before God, with sorrow they were compelled to act, but seeing no alternative: and they are in the mind to act so again if necessity call for it—which God forbid. Their position now is the position they occupied then. If the issuers of this pamphlet desire to take part in this position as the result of a conviction that they have been seduced into a wrong position, those to whom they wish to return will gladly welcome their fellowship in it. But let there be no misunderstanding. There can be no union without unity.” These remarks, just twenty years old, are strictly applicable to the present case. Agreement as to the wholly inspired and infallible character of the Scriptures is the very first condition of association on the basis of belief of what they teach. This agreement was broken by the promulgation of a theory to the effect that the Scriptures were partly human and erring. There were those who accepted this theory and those who could not, and there were those who were disposed to make it a matter of indifference. Cleavage was the inevitable result of such a situation. The author or authors of the present “plea for unity” are not the only persons “saddened” by the “divisions and estrangements that have taken place,” but union without unity is not the remedy for the sadness. And union with unity will never be a general thing till the Lord is here. He said there would be division even in families about him. And it has been so; and it is not going to stop till he end it. The only practicable rule of operation at present is fellowship on the basis of oneness of mind. It is a rule fraught with embarrassment and pain, but it is not of human appointment and cannot be set aside where faithfulness to the word of God is not extinct. To confound this rule with the Corinthian schisms that gloried in particular men after the flesh, is a serious mistake. The “plea” shows some heat against those who are described as “every assumed leader amongst us.” I suppose I am intended as one of those, and as such, I am to be “repudiated once and for ever.” There is either misunderstanding or malice here. I am no “leader” except as a man’s individual actions may influence others. I have always repudiated the imputation of leadership. I but do my own part on the basis of individual right. I claim no authority. I dictate to no man. I only act out my individual convictions, and advocate my individual views. Which of the demurring brethren do not do the same thing? Why should they find fault with me for doing what they do? If others are influenced by what I do or say, is this wrong? Is it not what the critics are aiming to do? An enlightened man would refuse to be responsible for such an unreasonable criticism. If the remark is inspired by the malice of envy or the pain of being opposed, it cannot be reasoned with, and must be left. It is not the first time in the history of the work of God that accusations of taking 123 too much upon them have been brought against those whose only crime has been unsought for prominence and influence in the carrying out of a faithful course. These and other hostile allusions are in contradiction to the recommendation of the pamphlet to abstain from “any allusions of ill-will to any living brother,” and from all references to the occurrences of the past. Also, there is a want of correspondence between the timid anonymousness of the pamphlet and the appeal to heroic courage of “the three Hebrew children” in carrying out the course recommended—viz., the appointment of “delegates” to meet and “finally settle the differences which exist.” This proposal stamps the author as either a neophyte or else as a man lacking experience of the ways of men as they are in fact, and not as seen through the distorting medium of newspaper columns. “Delegates” have no power to settle matters of faith, conviction, or duty. You may give them power to engage a hall or enter upon a printing contract, or any other secular matter in which you covenant beforehand to be bound by their decision. You cannot delegate the decision of spiritual issues. This is wholly a matter of individual responsibility in which no man can bind or absolve another. When you appoint “delegates” to settle questions of duty, you abdicate individual conscience and set up a spiritual tyranny akin to the “councils” which have already for ages desolated the world. The only practicable method of work in an age when God has chosen to be silent is for each man to judge for himself and as many as are of one mind to work together. The proposal to “appoint delegates with full powers to act,” and that “their decision for unity shall be final,” is the proposal of a man who may want peace (which is a good thing on the right foundation), but who does not understand what he is proposing. Unity is oneness of mind. The idea of delegates deciding that other people shall be of one mind is on a par with the idea of an Act of Parliament to settle the weather. If he says, “Oh, no; we mean oneness of association, and not oneness of mind,” then he is inviting us to ignore oneness of mind as the Scriptural basis of oneness of association to which there can be but one answer. If oneness of mind be not the condition-precedent of oneness of association, then let us return to the churches and chapels with all speed. Why stand apart from the orthodox communions, with their many advantageous connections and associations, for the sake of a spiritual fad, if the one faith is not essential to the one body? Twenty-one years ago, in the Christadelphian for 1877, I had to withstand an esteemed relative in words which I cannot do better that repeat, as entirely suitable to the present connection:—It is a thing apostolically enjoined, a thing commended by the highest reason (to contend earnestly for the faith in its integrity, and to stand aside from all who corrupt it). It is a thing, the absence of which in the first century, led to wholesale corruption, and would in our day have already destroyed the distinctive features of the truth. In the arduous battle for the truth, it is a thing beset with many difficulties, and a true friend of the spiritual order would not increase those difficulties by protesting against it, but would rather abet and encourage every tendency in the direction of faithfulness in this gloomy and unfriendly age. Then there is the proposition that “Christadelphianism is not a finality.” If this were our opinion, we should be found altogether elsewhere. We would not sacrifice present respectability and present ease for the sake of a thing admitting of uncertainty and requiring further “enquiry.” In this point we totally differ from all our critics. We are certain we have attained to the truth, we are positive, we have no doubt. The truth is not with us an object of search, or a subject of investigation, it is a possession and a finality, and this confidence is not a matter of assumption or an idiosyncrasy. It is founded on a lifetime’s incessant daily reading of the Scriptures. The critics may call this “infallibility,” but it is nothing more than reasonable confidence. A man does not require to be infallible in order to be certain that he sees the sun. Then the critics condemn confidence as to the teaching of the Word. They either mean that we never can reach to the full assurance of faith, or that their view of the case and not their neighbour’s is the infallible one. If the former be their meaning, they convict themselves of belonging to the class condemned in the Scriptures, who are “ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth.” If the latter, it is a choice of infallibilities, and we do not hesitate to reject theirs. 124 “Progress” is a pretty word, and “stemming the current of progress” a dreadful crime, of course; but there is progress two ways, and we cannot accept the guidance of the critics as to when the progress is backwards and when forwards. The backward progress of things in the first century was pushed forward with “good words and fair speeches, which deceived the hearts of the simple.” We are one with those who hold the truth as a finality, who do not require to “lay again the foundations”; but who, strong in faith and filled with all wisdom, are engaged in the work, not of discussing the truth, but advocating it for the development of a people who shall be found in all assurance of faith, looking and preparing for the second appearing of the Son of Man in power and great glory. Paul commands the brethren to “all speak the same thing,” and to be “perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment” (1 Cor. 1:10). How strangely, by the side of this, does the statement of this pamphlet read: That “certain differences of opinion are necessary to progress,” and that these differences are to be “appreciated rather than otherwise.” What can we do but hold by Paul and reject the pamphlet. We can understand the sentiment of the pamphlet as applied to matters of science where knowledge comes from investigation, and investigation is stimulated by conflicting theory; but it is incomprehensible in reference to the faith of Christ except on the hypothesis already rebutted— that this is a matter of uncertainty. The advocacy of “differences of opinion” as a matter of advantage among brethren will please well a certain class; but it will not find any favour among true saints who have come, and are helping others to “come unto the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God . . . being henceforth no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the sleight of men and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.” In fact this principle of unity, as opposed to “differences of opinion,” distinguishes the true brethren of Christ from mere opinionists, who have a smattering of the truth; but who, though “ever learning,” are never able to come to a knowledge of it. To the charge of holding “that the knowledge of Scripture, in the writings of Dr. Thomas, has reached a finality,” we plead guilty. If we were ignorant or unfamiliar with the Scriptures, or were like those who when they attempt to write or speak, have to look at them through the telescope of dictionaries, concordances, and such like, we should not have ground sufficient to entertain this conviction; but our acquaintance with them in daily intercourse for a lifetime enables us to be confident on the point. Our reading has not been confined to the Scriptures, or to the writings of Dr. Thomas. We have read what others have to say in many realms of human thought. We have, therefore, all the materials to form a judgment; and our judgment is distinctly to the effect imputed—that, in the writings of Dr. Thomas, the truth is developed as a finality, and that they are a depot of the Christian doctrine. In this sense we are “committed to Dr. Thomas.” Dr. Thomas has been laid aside in the grave for a season; and so long as God permits life and health, we shall defend the mighty results of his labours against all ridicule and opposition from friend or foe. Were he in the land of the living, some who are in hostility would be in a different attitude towards him. When he reappears, they will be ashamed. Meanwhile, God, who used him in the doing of His work, lives to note the gap made by his death, and the results which were not unforeseen to Him. In His sight, and with His help, we shall hold fast to the truth brought to light by his means; and, please God, will rejoice with him at the near-impending realisation of all the hopes of the saints, in the day when the bitterness of present warfare will only add sweetness to the hour of triumph. We shall try and endure the odium which calls this a dictatorial spirit. The clear perception, strong choice, and resolute defence of that which is true and good is not the offspring of dictation; nevertheless, if enemies or friends choose to consider it so, we must heed them not. It is this spirit that enables a man to say at last, “I have fought a good fight: I have kept the faith.” We recognise in sorrow and compassion, the painful position of all men who love the good things revealed in the Scriptures, and incline to pursue the course that is right, and yet find themselves in a strait between their desire to live peaceably with all men, and their resolution to walk in faithfulness to the Gospel to which they have been called. We have from the beginning suffered from this agonising 125 embarrassment, and can sympathise with all who suffer in the same way. This sympathy takes off the edge of the resentment we should feel at the odiums cast upon us by many who love peace and misunderstand our attitude. At the same time, it cannot relax enlightened determination to persevere in the policy of the past. Dr. Thomas recommended that policy, and we have found it the only practicable one; to give the truth the benefit of all doubts, and to accept such co-operations only as uncompromising loyalty to it might allow. There are, of course, extremes in the application of this principle to which Dr. Thomas himself did not go, and to which we cannot lend ourselves—(where unrevealed details admit of variety in opinion). But as regards the great general truths involved in “the things concerning the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ,” there is no tenable ground between returning to the churches, or restricting our ecclesial associations to those who yield an unqualified assent to these elements of truth. First among these elements of truth is the character of the Bible as the product of divine and unerring inspiration. No “pleas” for union can be listened to which in any degree leaves this an open question. II.—PLEA FOR UNCALLED-FOR DISUNION But, in addition to the pamphlet pleading for unsound union, the mail steamer has brought another pamphlet, which may be styled a plea for uncalled for disunion. We have nothing but respect for the motives of those who issue it, but we cannot join in their judgment of what should be done in the case of brethren who admit the light of knowledge as the ground of responsibility, but are not clear as to the amount of light necessary to create this responsibility. These brethren say “Withdraw,” and not only so, but “insist upon it, that all in fellowship should withdraw from all in a like uncertainty.” And they express their surprise that brother Roberts should hesitate. Well, we always have hesitated as past pages of the Christadelphian testify, and the reasons that were good in the past are good now. There is no need for the suggestion that we are careful for numbers, and are prepared to deal unfaithfully by the truth for the sake of pleasing men. None who know us intimately could harbour such a suspicion. It is a question of judgment, not of bias; and if we cannot go to the extremes for which some are contending, it is for reasons that have weight, and not from a motive which is only surmised, and which we declare does not exist. If we sought numbers, it would not be in the unpopular channel of the truth we should seek them. “But,” say they, “you have gone to extremes in other controversies that have arisen; why do you refuse now? How are the mighty fallen!” We have to say that when vital principles are at stake, no earnest man can hesitate in his choice between peace and war. War, in that extreme case, is forced upon him. But he requires to be sure that vital principles are at stake. War is too dreadful a thing to be entered upon for a doubtful cause. When it was proposed, thirty-two years ago, to make the Bible doctrine of immortality an affair of indifference in fellowship; and afterwards, thirty years ago, that the office of Christ as judge at his coming should be similarly dealt with; and afterwards, that the meaning of the death of Christ as a sacrifice, and his nature should be held in doubt; and afterwards, that the estimate in which we are to hold the Scriptures should be an open question; the issues were such as go to the very foundation of the system of the truth. There was no alternative for faithful men but separation from all who refused to make an unambiguous stand on behalf of the right. But in the present case, it is not a principle that is at stake, but a question as to the detached application of a principle. The principle is that light brings responsibility. This principle is admitted in the cases in question: but there is a lack of agreement as to how this principle will work out in an age like our own when the light burns so low. Some prompt minds dispose of the point by saying, “Knowledge that is equal to saving men is equal to condemning them.” This does not dispose of it. All will agree that the knowledge in a man which is sufficient to make him wise unto salvation, is sufficient to bring that same man into condemnation at the resurrection if he refuse submission to the commandments of God. But the question is—not as to that same man, but other men, of whom no man can say they are sufficiently illuminated to become the subjects of saving faith, or sufficiently acquainted with the evidence of the truth as to be resurrectionally responsible for rejecting it. This is a question which it is not in any man’s 126 power to settle. Who can tell where the light shines sufficiently to make a man responsible? For ourselves, we confess our entire inability to settle such a question. It would require that power of “discerning the thoughts and intents of the heart” which God alone possesses. If we cannot settle such a question, why should we insist upon a man assenting to some particular definition of it before we will receive him as a brother? and, still worse, insist upon his disowning all others who will not do likewise? “Purity of fellowship” is a laudable cry, but it requires to be carried out with the discriminations of wisdom. A brother on the plea of “purity” once called upon me to subscribe to a particular date for the ending of the 1260 years of Daniel and John as a condition of fellowship, and some other similarly outrageous demands in matters of detail. The present contention is not so absurd as that: still, the case shows that “purity of fellowship” may be carried too far, and that as a watch word it is in itself too vague unless it is supported by justifiable applications in detail. The great principle underlying this controversy, is the fate of rebels and unbelievers. If there was a class of men, contending (as some religionists in the world contend) that rebels and unbelievers will be saved at last, there would be a principle at stake, to which all true men would rally without a moment’s hesitation. But seeing that all concerned in this controversy recognise that the fate of such is to be “punished with everlasting destruction,” and that those only who please God by faith and obedience will be the recipients of His favour in Christ in the ages to come, it does not seem wise or called for (or indeed permissible as an act of righteousness in the sight of God) that we should discard those who are not clear as to the amount of punishment to be meted out to a particular class among such. We are not referring to those who have embraced the new theory—that God will not and cannot punish rebels unless they have first made a preliminary submission in the act of baptism. Those who have embraced this theory have withdrawn from all who have not, and, therefore, they are not in the question. They have settled the question for us as far as they are concerned. The question relates to those who have not embraced that monstrous view of God’s moral procedure, and who repudiate it, but who are not clear on the application of the law of responsibility in modern circumstances. The idea of withdrawing from such appears to us an outrage on reason. We recommend the worthy brethren who are proposing it to pause in their maintenance of a position which they may afterwards have to regret. We do not question their motive. We remind them that even Moses did not presume to deal with doubtful cases until the mind of the Lord was shown (Lev. 24:12; Num. 15:32–36). We cannot get the mind of the Lord in this way in our age, and must remain in doubt. Doubt may well suggest itself to them if they realise that their position involves the rejection of men who believe the Gospel, and have been baptized, and are walking in obedience to the commandments of the Lord in love, mercy, and faith. Abraham’s faith was counted for righteousness; and Paul says it will be so with us (Rom. 4:22–24). But the doctrine of the pamphlet would say, “No, not if there is any haze as to how God will deal with a particular class of the rejectors of faith.” The pamphlet puts forward brother Welch as ostensible author, “with an appendix” by others. This is not in all points the correct form. The pamphlet originates in Scotland, with some who were displeased that we could not join in their extreme courses. They have looked round for support elsewhere, and, finding Dr. Welch answerable to their views, have used him in a way that we cannot but think, with a full knowledge of men, he would not have taken if left to himself. In literary essence, it is Dr. Welch that is the appendix, and the issuers of the pamphlet the true authors. We should be pleased to step with all the authors of the pamphlet, believing them to be well-meaning men. But, in this matter, we cannot; and if they must throw us overboard, we cannot pretend not to be deeply grieved. But we must bear it. We can only fall back upon the alternate comfort, open to all, in all embarrassments, that the Lord himself will presently end all doubtful disputations, and deal with every man according as he has faithfully walked before him. 127 III.—PLEA FOR APOSTASY There is still another pamphlet, by a man who walked with us years ago, but has now become an open antagonist to the Christadelphians. This is a colonial production, “by George Cornish,” who, it appears, has returned to England. He is the man who holds that Christ died “because he was killed,” and not because it was necessary. The effort now is against the Gospel of the Kingdom. The title of the pamphlet is The Glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ and the False Gospels of this age compared—a promising title which falls to ashes of Sodom in the reading. The pamphlet is mere verbal fence—words thrown about with the adroitness of a juggler, without that broad and sensible grasp that is essential to what Paul calls the right division of the word of truth. Its object is to establish the contention that Christ now reigns, and that “the Church” is his kingdom. This strife of tongues will continue until the Lord end it with his strong arm. Meanwhile, faithful men are not to be discouraged by the endless din. They will continue in quietness and patience to handle the verities of the oracles of God for the enlightenment and comfort of the few who sincerely wait upon Him in the midst of the confusion. Those of like mind will co-operate; those, from any cause otherwise-minded, will oppose and rail; and the Lord at last will tell us what he thinks of it all.—EDITOR. Our Duty Towards Error and Errorists By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1890, p. 65-66 It may smack of assumption to talk of such a duty: but the duty exists, however offensive it may be to the social proclivities of some and the personal dignities of others. If there is such a thing as truth, there must be such a thing as error. Is there such a thing as truth? We speak as to those who have made up their minds. If some say, “certainly there is such a thing as truth, but it is the height of arrogance to profess to have found it,” we can only remember that truth not found is of no use to us: and that if men have not found the truth, they are in darkness, and are no guide for those who are in the light. If men have found the truth, they are in the light, and only walk honestly as they walk in the light. If men have found the truth, it is no arrogance to own up to the fact, and to go further and defend it, and act in harmony with the obligations it creates. The obligations are often far from agreeable, and they are always opposed to a man’s temporal interests. What then? If we would please Christ, we have no choice: and if we please not Christ, we can have no object in hampering ourselves with its obligations at all. Christ’s last communication to his friends reveals his mind in the matter in a manner that precludes misconception. His messages to the seven Asiatic ecclesias through John, in Patmos, almost all of them insist in some form or other on the duty of scrupulosity with regard to error and errorists. Ephesus was commended because “thou canst not bear them that are evil and hast tried them that say they are apostles and are not, and hast found them liars.” “Thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes.” To Smyrna: “I know the blasphemy of them that say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.” Pergamos was found fault with, because “Thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam. . . . So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes.” Thyatira was found fault with because “Thou sufferest that woman, Jezebel, who calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce my servants.” So the others were found fault with for laxity and lukewarmness. Error changes its form from age to age, but the dutiful attitude remains the same—the duty of individual repudiation and non-toleration in fellowship. We may not in the 19th century have those particular questions to trouble us that agitated the first; but we have the same duty to perform towards the errors that may belong to our time. It is a distasteful duty and in every way an inconvenient one. For this reason, many with whom the apprehension of divine obligations may be weak, or susceptibility to 128 human considerations may be strong, are liable to swerve and sacrifice truth and duty to friendship. Their amiability may lead us to sympathise with them in a sentimental sense: but their attitude is none the less of practical unfaithfulness, and to be sorrowfully refused (on their account), by true friends of Christ. The peculiar crime of the present age of Christian profession is that of dishonouring the scriptures. All classes lend themselves to it in one way or other. Either they neglect them while acknowledging them as the words of God, or they completely nullify them by beliefs and traditions subversive of all their teachings, or they say they are not sure they are the words of God, and that there is a good deal of the word of God in other books as well; or that there is a good deal of the word of man in the so-called word of God, and that the extent and effect of inspiration is an entirely open question; or that, in fact, the Bible is but an interesting and antique form of the word of pious men, disfigured by the weakness and errors characteristic of the writings of all, and only to be considered the word of God in so far as it may coincide with truth; or that it has no claim to be considered the word of God at all, but is a lying invention of priests and parsons in by-gone days of darkness. Can we imagine Christ, who addressed the seven Asiatic ecclesias, in reprobation of false doctrine and commendation of the true, regarding any of these forms of treachery with anything but detestation? Can we imagine him looking with favour upon any toleration by his friends to any form of it? Whatever others may think, we have not so learnt Christ. Charity is charity, but does not require us to submit to the corruption of the truth. The abomination has been introduced among believers of the present day. While some of us would have none of it, others have parleyed with it, and blown with trumpets of very uncertain sound. Others have bewildered themselves for want of clear perception of the bearings of things. “Wisdom would teach us,” say some, “not to import your troubles here. We have sought to exclude the element of Brothers Roberts, Ashcroft, or Chamberlin.” My pleasant friend, it is not “our trouble” in any personal sense. It is the trouble of God’s friends everywhere. You cannot keep it away if you are faithful. The question has nothing to do with person or place. Places will change and persons will die, but truth and duty are the same for ever. It is a lying tradition that makes it a personal question of ours. The day will come when those who circulate such a falsehood will have to answer for it. There is no personal question at issue or personal motive involved on our side. We never had a word or a thought of difference with Brother Ashcroft till he launched the Bible-nullifying theory of partial inspiration among the brethren. On the contrary, our relations were those of the tenderest friendship. If this was changed, it was not our act. We were forced into a corner by the acts of others. We had to choose between persons and principles; and in this there could really be no choice. The truth of God at all hazards is the only course open to men with open eyes. It is your course as well as ours; and it extends to fellowship as well as the personal reception of the truth, else the words of Christ mean nothing. You believe the right thing yourself, but you receive another who is in fellowship with those everywhere who believe the wrong and are leagued in opposition to the right. In this you take part with the wrong. It would be pleasant if we were at liberty to make personal goodwill the rule of fellowship; but no man can act on this principle who accepts the apostolic writings as a rule of conduct. It is one of the preparatory disciplines to which the wisdom of God subjects the heirs of the Kingdom, that they be faithful to His word in the relations of the present evil state; and however distasteful to flesh and blood are the embarrassments which this rule creates, faithful men have no choice but to submit with as much sweetness as they can bring to a disagreeable duty. 129 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 79 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1876, p. 549-553 “Exhort one another daily.”—PAUL. OUR attention has been called this morning to the remarkable exhortation of Paul to the Hebrews, in the 13th chapter of his epistle to them, verse 13: “Let us go forth, therefore, unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.” This exhortation had a meaning for those to whom Paul was writing which it cannot have for us. They were Jews who, like himself, had been brought up in subjection to the Mosaic institutions in all particulars, and whose acceptance of Christ brought upon them excommunication from the synagogue, and all the reproach connected with an apparent apostacy from a divine institution, and an acceptance of what was accounted a cunningly devised and magically supported imposture. Their steadfastness was put under a powerful strain in having to accept an apparent dissociation with Moses, by whom all were agreed God had spoken; and in having to associate with one who had the reputation of being a destroyer of the law of Moses, and whose undoubted end as a crucified companion of felons, brought him under the curse of the law of Moses. It was true comfort that Paul administered to them, when he said to the Romans that his doctrine of Christ, so far from “making void” the law, “established” it. It was similar consolation for them to be told that Christ had said “Think not that I am come to destroy the law and the prophets. I am not come to destroy but to fulfil.” Writing directly to themselves, Paul had told them that the law, though divine, was but “a figure for the time then present,” pointing forward to Christ, in whom all its hidden significances had an end. This was his declaration on the subject as a whole. In the exhortation under consideration, he makes a particular application of it in a matter of detail. He reminds them that “the bodies of those beasts whose blood was brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, were burned without the camp,” involving the recollection that anyone availing himself of the ceremonial purification connected with the use of the ashes of the beast, had to go out of the camp to get at them: a typical foreshadowing of the fact that when the real purification from sin was provided, Israelites would have to go outside the national camp to obtain the benefit. In harmony with the figure, Christ “suffered without the gate,” in being proscribed by the national authorities, and in being crucified outside the walls of Jerusalem. From this it was easy and natural to extract the farther figuration, by which the position of Jesus at the time of his crucifixion is made to represent the excommunicated and despised position of those of Israel who afterwards believed on his name. It was a natural climax to say “Let us go forth, therefore, to him without the camp, bearing his reproach.” We cannot apply this to ourselves in a direct manner this morning. We are not Jews, who in accepting Christ, have had to turn our backs upon what is called Judaism, and to go forth with courage to brave the reproach of those remaining in the camp. Nevertheless, there is a sense in which we are called upon to submit to such an ordeal. We have had to go forth from a certain camp, bearing the reproach of Christ, and dating historically back to the work of the apostles in the first century. We have left that camp, with all the attractions that belong to a popular establishment. We cannot assemble with the respectable crowds that fill the commodious religious edifices that abound in every town. We cannot take part in their opulent arrangements, or join their imposing and comfortable services. We have chosen to step out of the flourishing throng; to desert the attractive festivals of popular faith; to stand aloof from the profitable associations of “the names and denominations of religion.” We have accepted the obscurity and the dishonour of hole-and-corner meetings with the poor and illiterate. It has been a hard resolution to take, not only because of the temporal disadvantages of our decision—not only because of the 130 sacrifice of present gratifications of society, and the acceptance of present mortifications to the natural man and the spiritual too, but because the system of religion around us accepts Christ by profession. If these systems said “We reject Christ,” our course would have been much easier; instead of that, they profess his name, and proclaim themselves his servants. It has in consequence been a great exercise of mind for us to consider whether we are justified in having a system professedly subject to Christ, and taking a step which by implication passes condemnation on them as an unchristian thing. But we have not faltered when all the facts were fully before us for decision. We have learnt that the true “house of God, which is the church of the living God; is the pillar and ground of THE TRUTH” (1 Tim 3:15); and that men and systems may say, “Lord, Lord,” and may even claim to have done wonderful things in his name, and yet have no claim to his recognition at his coming, by reason of their non-submission to his requirements. Consequently, we have asked—Is the religious system under which we were born “the pillar and ground of the truth?” A pillar supports, holds up: does the religious system support, hold up, the truth? “Ground,” gives a resting place, a basis, a foundation: does the religious system act as a foundation, a resting place for “the truth?” We have been able to answer this with an emphatic negative when we have come to know what “the truth” is. This phrase “the truth” is a very comprehensive phrase. “The truth” we find to be made up of many things which require to be put together before we can have the whole thing so defined. For instance, it is true that God exists; but to believe that God exists is not to believe the comprehensive thing meant by “the truth.” The Jews believed in God’s existence: and yet Paul had “continual sorrow of heart” because they were not in the way of salvation. The truth is not only the fact that God exists, but that He has said and done certain things and given to us certain commandments. It is part of the truth that Christ was crucified: but to believe this of itself is not to believe the truth. Jews and infidels believe that Christ was crucified, but reject the truth of which that is an element. It is part of the truth that Christ rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples; but if these facts are disconnected from his ascension and the promise of his return to raise the dead and establish his kingdom, the belief of them does not constitute a belief of “the truth.” So with every element of “the truth” by turns: they must all have their place in relation to the rest, or we fail to receive and hold the truth. Now, when we try the system around us by this test, we find it is the very opposite of being “the pillar and ground of the truth.” It lacks, yea rejects, the very first principles of the oracles of God. It teaches a triune instead of a one God; it asserts man to be immortal instead of mortal: it declares torment instead of death the wages of sin: it preaches the death of Christ as a “substitutionary” satisfaction of the divine law, instead of a declaration of the righteousness of God (Rom. 3:25) in the condemnation of sin in the flesh (Rom. 8:3), as a basis on which the forbearance of God offers the forgiveness of all who recognise themselves “crucified with Christ”—(Rom. 3:25; Gal. 2:20). It proclaims death instead of resurrection the climax of the believer’s hope; it preaches heaven instead of earth as the inheritance of the meek. It affirms our going instead of Christ’s coming as the means and occasion of the promised reward. And so forth. The dissimilarities might be enumerated in other points. Instead of being “the pillar and ground of the truth,” the religious system around us is the puller-down and scatterer of the truth. How, then, could we hesitate to “come out from among them?” It is part of apostolic doctrine that we are not to be identified with any who bring not the doctrine of Christ, whatever their profession (2 Jno. 10; Rev. 14:9; Rom. 16:17). Consequently we could not remain in popular fellowship without the danger of being responsible for their errors. This is the explanation of our position this morning in having gone forth out of the popular camp, unto Christ, bearing the reproach incident in our professedly Christian day to a profession of his truth. It is well also to recognise the fact that the principle which isolates us from popular communion isolates us also from the fellowship of all who reject any part of the truth. Some accept the truth in part, but are either unable or unwilling to receive it in its entirety. They believe in the kingdom but reject the Bible doctrine of death; or they hold the mortal nature of man but do not receive the restoration of the 131 kingdom again to Israel; or they accept both, but deny the judgment; or believe in the judgment, but deny the kingdom; or accept all three but reject the apostolic doctrine of Christ’s nature and death, and so on. Such persons are generally what is called very “charitable;” that is, they are willing to connive at any amount of doctrinal diversity so long as friendliness is maintained. They are lovers of peace. Peace is certainly very desirable when it can be had on a pure foundation: but the charitable people referred to are not particular about the foundation. They will compromise the truth in some one or other of its integral elements for the sake of personal harmony. This is a spurious charity altogether. We are not at liberty to relax the appointments of God. The exercise of “charity” must be confined to our own affairs. We have no jurisdiction in God’s matters. What God requires is binding on us all: and the faithful man cannot consent to accept any union that requires a jot or tittle to be set aside or treated as unimportant. Such a man cannot consent to form a part of any community that is not “the pillar and ground of the truth.” There is just another side to this question which cannot be too well remembered, and that is that the possession of the truth in its entirety does not necessarily ensure acceptance with Christ at his coming. The Scriptures speak of “those who hold the truth IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, ” and declares that the end of such will be “indignation, anguish and wrath.” Consequently, no one should rest on the knowledge and belief of the truth as securing his salvation without failure. That knowledge is of great value to him. In the obedience of it (in baptism) it brings him into relation with Christ, who is the righteousness of God; invested with whose name he stands a forgiven man, “purged from his old sins.” But he has a life to live after that, and Christ shall judge that life at his coming; and it will all depend upon his estimate of that life as to how he will deal with the person. He will give to every man “according to his works.” In the case of some, he will “blot their name out of the book of life.” He will take away their part out of the holy city. He will refuse recognition and dismiss the refused to the society of the adversary, at that time about to be “devoured.” In the case of others, he will confess their names, and invite them to inherit the kingdom of God. There is no sane man who would not desire to be among the latter. There is a principle upon which admission is predicated. The doctrines of the apostacy have obliterated this principle. They teach that men have “only to believe” that Christ has paid their debts, and that they have nothing to do but believe that Christ died for them. Whereas the exhortation of Peter is to be “diligent to make our calling and election SURE; ” that only “if we do these things (which he had enumerated), we shall never fall.” This is the uniform teaching of Christ and his servant Paul. Jesus says it is vain to acknowledge him unless we do what he commands.—(Matt. 7:21). Paul says every man at the judgment seat of Christ shall receive according to that he hath done (2 Cor. 5:10); and that he who doeth wrong shall receive the wrong that he hath done.—(Col. 3:25). Consequently it rests with us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), as obedient children, not fashioning ourselves according to our former lusts in our ignorance, but as he that hath called us is holy, so must we be holy in all manner of conversation. There is a natural tendency to overlook this phase of the work of Christ, unless we are on our guard. The popular habit of depreciating the importance of doctrine, is liable to have the effect of shutting us up entirely to the fact that apart from a knowledge of the truth, we cannot be saved. We are in danger of shutting our eyes to the equally certain truth that a knowledge of the truth will be of no value to us if it fail to effectuate that purification of heart—that moral and intellectual assimilation to the divine character which it is intended to produce in all who are called to the holy calling: we can only avoid this dangerous extreme by a habitual and meditative reading of the holy oracles. In this exercise, day by day, we shall be made acquainted with the full and noble breadth of the divine work, in the practical transformation of men. We shall not fail to perceive that Christ made the state of the heart and the character of our actions the most prominent feature of his teaching. He preached the Kingdom of God it is true, and constantly did so: but this, only, as the framework of his instruction. The character of those who would inherit that kingdom, was constantly the burden of his speech to those around him. And we shall only resemble him and take part truly in his work, in proportion as we do the same. And, what is 132 more solemnly true, we can only hope for an entrance into his kingdom in the day of his glory if we are of the same mind and work as he. It is written “There shall in nowise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination or maketh a lie.”—(Rev. 21:27). Men—aye, even such as are called brethren, may forget or be indifferent to this meanwhile, but they will discover at last that the word of the Lord standeth sure, and that the gate of eternal glory will be barred against every one who conforms not to the divine standard revealed in the Word. The fact may appear a stern one, but its effect as regards the house of God will be only good and glorious: it will secure a perfect fellowship, composed of such as know God and delight in His praise, and in the delightsome love one to another that glows in every heart that truly seeks His face. Intelligence (United States) Comments by bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1878, p. 479 ROCHESTER (N.Y.)—The intelligence from this place presents a dilemma. Bro. A. Sintzenich writes: “It gives me great pleasure to transmit to you for publication in the Christadelphian, by order of the ecclesia through the managing brethren, the accompanying document conveying the gratifying intelligence that the division which has obtained in this city for several years through diversity of views on the nature of the Christ, now no longer exists; and that there is but one body here, as there is but one faith, hope, and baptism; and consequently we are enjoying the peaceable fruits of righteousness in the unity of the One Body of the Christ.” In further remarks of the same pleasing order, a document is introduced certifying the fact of re-union, signed, for the body in general, by Geo. Ashton, C. H. Morse, F. B. Robinson, Augustus Sintzenich, presiding brethren. But, on the other hand, there comes a declaration repudiating the union, signed by Charles Orlishausen, Emma Orlishausen, Jno. D. Tomlin, James H. Dewey, James Leask, Mary P. Dewey, Sarah J. Leask, Lyman M. Cunningham, Sarah Cunningham, Chas. Boddy, Thomas Boddy, Thomas Boddy, jun., Eliza Boddy, Dr. John Richman, Isabel Tomlin, and Henrietta Richman. The union is repudiated by these on the ground that the “diversity of views” originally causing the division still exists in substance and that the re-union is effected for the sake of peace, and is on the basis of mere verbal agreement, and not on identity of doctrinal significance. They believe the truth to be compromised, both as to the sacrifice of Christ and the doctrine of judgment, through false charity, and will have nothing to do with it. They support their assertions by documentary evidence, which apparently confirms them. The Editor could not, without personal investigation, decide which side represents the unsullied cause of truth; and as personal investigation is out of the question, he can only deal with the matter as it stands in the documents. In all doubtful cases he finds it expedient to give the truth the benefit of the doubt, and so far as the evidence at present goes, the doubt is in favour of the dissenters, and against the unionists. There is a tendency manifest in the phraseology of the latter to hide doctrinal discrepancies under generalities; and in the official declaration of union the condemnation of sin in the flesh effected in Christ is apparently made to have a moral signification instead of the crucifixion of the man Christ Jesus. We hold ourselves open to further light; but, so far, the re-union seems the practical secession of tried friends instead of the return of erring brethren. 133 Answers to Correspondents (Offender and Offended) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1890, p. 221 Y. B. U.—“Show the truth, or the fallacy, of the position taken by a brother in a recent ecclesial trouble, who, when asked by one seeking to make peace between all discordant elements, to forgive an offending brother, said, ‘I cannot forgive him unless he seeks my forgiveness, for if I do, I will make myself as great an offender.’” ANSWER.—There can be no doubt that acknowledgment is the natural and prescribed condition of forgiveness in all cases of unquestionable personal injury, word or deed. Nothing admits of so clean and sweet and lasting a reparation. It is the lesson of the law of Moses throughout, and the principle continually exemplified in God’s dealings with Israel. But in the confusions of human intercourse, in the present state of weakness, there arise hundreds of cases in which it is impossible to apply this law in any strict manner; first, because it usually happens that there are faults on both sides; and secondly, because it nearly as often happens that where one side may be clean-handed enough, the other side is the offending side, not through any intention or desire to do injury, but through a wrong understanding of things. In such cases, no wise man would insist on the unconditional surrender implied in the request for forgiveness. Even in a clear case, he is too conscious of his own shortcoming to take an imperious attitude. He would run more than half way to meet his offending brother if he saw the least disposition to concede the point. But as for the idea that forgiveness cannot be granted without confession, and that such forgiveness would be sin, the brother broaching such an idea will be likely to abandon it on full reflection. We are commanded to forgive if confession is made, for this was the point in question when Jesus spoke the words: “How oft shall I forgive?” But we are not forbidden to forgive in the absence of confession. We are at liberty to forgive without it if we like—certainly. Jesus gave us this example, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” Paul also, “I pray God that it may not be laid to their charge.” Stephen also—all this without confession on the part of the offenders, for they were too dark-minded to know their need for forgiveness. This is the magnanimity which belongs to the children of God, who can even return good for evil. A man may be within his rights who says “I will not forgive him unless he ask me,” though marking himself thus as the feeblest of the children of God, if indeed he prove to be among the children, shewing thus that he hath not the spirit of Christ. But there is nothing to hinder a man soaring far above his rights and say, “This man who has wronged me is too ungifted from God to see what he has done. I will let the matter pass. I will pray God to forgive Him; and if He forgive at the judgment seat, the man will gladly see and own his fault then: I can wait.” The man who applies the rule of confession before forgiveness too strictly is in danger of having the same measure applied to himself. So Christ says. And how then? We cannot be saved, for we are too dim-eyed to know all our sins; and if those only are forgiven that we see and admit, the unforgiven balance must sink us to perdition. Another point the offended brother should consider, is whether his state is due to wounded pride or violated righteousness. If he is an expert at self-examination, he will probably find it is the former three times out of four at least; for he discovers that other offences against the law of God do not hurt him at all if they do not touch him. If so, he will act wisely to hold his hand and be as little exacting with the offender as possible. Per contra, the offender, when there happens to be one, should be frank and gracious in his acknowledgments. He rarely is so. As a rule his concession is tardy and ambiguous, and generally takes the shape of an insulting hypothesis. “If I have given offence, I am sorry for it.” This is not acknowledgement at all, my friend. It may even be an insulting implication to this effect. “I am sorry my neighbour has been such a simpleton as to take offence where it was perfectly unwarrantable he should do so.” If you mean confession, let it be fair and square and handsome. “I have done this: I ought not to 134 have done it: I am sorry for it.” Graciousness on one side will lead to graciousness on the other, and love will flow.—But, Oh dear!—the good time has to come. But it will come, and the children of mercy will prosper and rejoice. Meditations–No. XXX By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1890, p. 266-267 LET us not trouble ourselves about the apparent hardness and arbitrariness of the divine conditions of salvation. God is all-wise, and therefore knows what is best. No amount of dissatisfaction on our part will cause God to alter the conditions; neither will our tampering with them change them. In dealing with this matter, we must be sensible and honest. God would have all men to be saved, but all men will not be saved, because, for a variety of known and unknown reasons, they will not fall in with this simple and reasonable condition. Surely, it is becoming that nonbelief in God—in the Word that He has acknowledged as His own—should exclude from His favour. Surely it is both kind and becoming that the man who will neither believe nor obey—who will persist in continual enmity to Him, should be deprived of existence. If we would know what unbelief and disobedience mean, let us open our eyes to the misery and wickedness that prevail. Would any kind-hearted, thoughtful man desire that this should be everlastingly perpetuated? If few believe the truth it is not God’s fault, but the devil’s, who is wisely permitted to reign for a while. God’s method will sift the sons of men as in a sieve. Wiseacres, simpletons, and workers of iniquity will all go through. Only one class, and that the right one, will be preserved, as time will presently show. “How much of the truth may I give up without imperilling my situation?” Not any. The truth is our city of refuge: in it we are safe: immediately we wander outside of it our life is in danger. A few hours spent on Paul’s writings, provided we are open to conviction, will assure us upon this point. Even apart from direct teaching, are we not told that the existence of false teachers caused Paul many a tear? There is no intelligible explanation of this away from the fact that he knew that error meant destruction to those who embraced it. Again we read upon the subject—“But of these who seemed to be somewhat (whatever they were it maketh no matter to me)—To whom we give place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the Gospel might continue with you” (Gal. 2:5, 6). This passage also indicates Paul’s estimation of error, for he was not the man to speak without good and weighty motives. The path of error is the path of death. This may offend “unruly and vain talkers and deceivers,” but what of that? Because the serpent says, “ye shall not surely die,” we are not bound to believe it. The human race is perishing in a heavy sea. Adam’s sin has wrecked us. God, in His mercy, has thrown us a rope—the Gospel. Unless we lay hold of this, we can have no hope, and not only must we lay hold, but we must hold fast—we must grip firmly and tightly till we are saved. “Hold fast till I come,” says Christ. Paul repeatedly said the same thing—“Hold fast the form of sound words” (2 Tim. 1:13). “Hold fast the traditions which ye have been taught” (2 Thes. 2:15). “Hold fast the profession of our faith” (Heb. 10:23). This holding fast means endurance, effort, a determination of purpose. It is a very easy thing to let go. To apostatise from the truth is one of the easiest processes under the sun. We have only to cease “giving earnest heed,” to give place to our own fleshly reasonings, and the truth will soon drift from us. The truth is very jealous, and will not brook the second place in our minds. The Gospel, or the truth, is the power of God unto salvation, and to retain this we must be earnest and resolute. Earnest and resolute men do not forsake the daily reading of the Word, nor the meetings. Laxity in either of these directions means that our hold is loosing. What is growth in the truth? God has commanded us to grow in the truth (Col. 1:9, 10; Phil. 1:9; 2 Peter 1:5, 8), and it behoves us to have clear and right views in regard to growth. The growth is to be 135 from one particular root, “the faith,” “rooted and built up in him and established in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving” (Col. 2:7)—“Building up yourself on your most holy faith” (Jude 20.)—“Leaving first principles of the beginning of Christ let us go on into perfection” (Heb. 6:1). Growth does not mean a continual amending of our belief. This view has been frequently taken by men who have endeavoured to thrust heresies upon the church. To grow is to develop and to augment, not to destroy and recommence. As the flower develops from the bud to the full blossom, or the man from infancy to manhood, so should we develop from the babe in Christ to the skilful workman. Growth manifests itself in a progressive application of Christ’s commands to all the varied circumstances of life; in continual expansion of vision in relation to the wondrous things of the law—such as tracing in the types the things concerning the name and the kingdom; in the elucidation of prophecy; and in learning from past events God’s principles of action. But let us remember that this is fruit that can be grown from one stock only, viz., “The first principles of the Oracles of God.” Answers to Correspondents (Division) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1890, p. 458 S. G. L.—Discord and division are painful. Let them not overthrow you. They are not new. They have been upon the earth ever since the Gospel was first preached to the Gentiles. Jesus said it would be so: “Henceforth, there shall be division.” But did he mean among the elect of God? No. Is it right among them, then? It will not happen among them, brother. The saints are of one mind. But who are they? Leave that. The judgment will decide. The only rule to work by at present is the individual apprehension of the word. Apply your mind to this, and walk with those who are faithful to the word so far as you can discern. Wait for the rest. This is the time of probation, and purposely dark and distressing. The Lord will find his precious ones in spite of all. Save yourself, whatever others say or do. Books, Pamphlets, MSS., &c., received during the Month. By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1892, p. 484 Mr. Aston’s Monthly Intelligencer for September and November 1891—The Truth (alas!) for November, 1891 (in which the editor “solicits literary contributions from those holding views of doctrine not generally endorsed by the brethren!” (Silence seems the only fitting comment on such an extraordinary proposal on the part of a man professing to hold and to serve the truth. A correspondent of the paper not inaptly remarks that “Truth and Error would be the most truthful name.” A much stronger remark than this would be just. A man is not fit to be an editor who either has no definite convictions of his own, or who is not prepared to stand by his convictions, but obsequiously cringes before his readers and contributors, and asks them to say anything they like, on the plea that he is “no autocrat,” and others may answer them, but he will not “feel bound to interfere with any observations or criticisms of his own.” No man seeking to serve the truth could take such a position We could say more, but refrain). 136 Answers to Correspondents (Mortal Resurrection and Fellowship) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1865, p. 207-208 C. S.—It is true that Paul includes “the doctrine of resurrection” among “first principles” in Heb. 6:1. 3; but it is not evident that in the “doctrine of resurrection” as a first principle, he included the teaching as to the physical quality of the body when it emerges from the grave. We must look to the recorded preaching of Jesus and the apostles for the sense in which the resurrection was inculcated as a first principle. If we do so, we shall find that the broad fact that “there shall be a resurrection of just and unjust” in opposition to the denial of the fact, is all “the doctrine of resurrection” that appears in their inculcations. Details, such as the question you refer to, were reserved for the instruction afterwards communicated to those who were put into Christ on the basis of the first principles laid down in the teaching referred to and were never so for as we have any record, laid down among the first principles themselves. This being so, to make belief in mortal resurrection a test of fellowship seems to us to be putting strong meat in the place of milk, and to make a first principle of that which under the apostles was only a matter of instruction to those who were in Christ. What can we suppose the 3.000 on Pentecost knew beyond the broad fact that there would be a resurrection? Or the twelve apostles themselves when baptized by John the Baptist, and afterwards feet washen by Jesus at the supper before his crucifixion? What more can we suppose Paul knew on the subject, when baptized by Ananias, or the Phillippian gaoler, or the Ethiopian eunuch? If it were a question of eternal condition, we could understand the disposition of some to attach vital importance to it; but seeing it only relates to the little interval between emergence from the grave and the judgment seat—an interval which unless a doubtful rendering be adopted, is entirely overlooked in the most uminous exposition we have in the New Testament on the subject of resurrection, (1 Cor. 15)—it would require more unequivocal warrant than is to be found in the scripture to justify its adoption as a point of faith necessary to salvation. The question is different where a person denies that the saints will appear before the judgment seat of Christ. This is one of the most palpable elements of the truth as preached by Jesus and the apostles which must be acknowledged as a preliminary to baptism. But you seem to argue that a person who denies mortal resurrection must repudiate the judgment, since resurrection would anticipate and practically set judgment aside. Logically, you may be right, but practically, it does not follow. Many believe Paul’s statement in its apparent sense, “the (righteous) dead shall be raised incorruptible, ” and yet believe his other statement that “they shall appear before the judgment seat of Christ to receive in body according to what they have done, whether it be good or bad” and the way they reconcile the logical conflict between the two, is to believe that God, who knows everything beforehand, will raise the accepted, incorruptible, and the wicked in their mortal state, without in any way superseding the tribunal at which their respective merits will be officiality adjudicated. We do not endorse this view, but we dare not say in the state of the evidence that it is fatal to the position of those otherwise believing the truth. The point is one which does not affect a man’s candidature for the kingdom, but rather lies within the category of advanced knowledge which it is to a man’s profit to possess, and the want of which may lower his status in the kingdom, but not exclude him from it. Putting the question on this footing, we are prepared to maintain, and will in due time endeavour to prove, that the dead of both classes when they emerge from the grave, are in a mortal condition. If the change effected by baptism is not a change in God’s mind towards the person submitting to it, it would be difficult to understand that any change takes place at all. The view expressed is not necessarily incompatible with the testimony that God changes not. God’s unchangeability relates to his nature and the principles upon which he acts. It is his unchangeable attribute to be angry with the wicked and to 137 love the righteous, and equally so, to repent of intended evil towards the wicked who reform, and of intended good towards the righteous who backslide. For this teaching, we rely among other scriptures upon the following:—Jer. 18:7, 10; Ezek. 18:20, 30; Psalm 7:5; 11:5; 18:25, 26; 34:11, 22; Lev. 27:23, 24; 2 Cor. 6:1, 8; Rom. 1:18; Rom. 2:1, 11; Heb. 10:26, 31. Tour Through England and Scotland By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1868, p. 270 (Excerpt) "In a case of open, undoubted, unrepented sin, duty would compel dis-fellowship, but where the sin is denied and in dispute, and a majority think the accused innocent, the only rational course is to give the accused the benefitdis of all doubt, and let fellowship take its routine way. Those who fear complicity with sin in such a case have only to remember that Judas was allowed to remain in the company of the disciples until he made himself manifest; and they must also realise this undisputable fact, that the present state of the ecclesia, is one in which good fish and bad, swim together in the same net, until the net is drawn to the shore to have its contents classified at the coming of the Lord. All cases of doubt must needs be left to the unerring Judge, who will render to every man according to his ways. Many such cases there will always be in the present state, and if we resolve to withhold our fellowship till perfect holiness prevail in every professing saint, we may make up our minds for a hermit life. In such matters we must follow Paul’s injunction, 'Judge nothing before the time, till the Lord come, who will bring to light the hidden things of darkness; and make manifest the counsels of the heart.'—I Cor. 4:5. It is to be hoped the seceders will realise the force of these considerations, and sinking all doubtful questions, return to the obedience and the breaking of bread from which at present they have departed." So-Called “Heresy-Hunting,” A Duty By bro. J. J. Andrew The Christadelphian, 1886, p. 317 “All heresy-hunting is of diabolos,” says the flesh. “Try the spirits whether they are of God,” writes the Spirit; and the reason given is “because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (I. Jno. 4:1). The “false prophets” were teachers of heresy, but professed to teach that which was true. There was a difficulty in identifying them, and therefore all teachers of divine things were to be tried to ascertain whose teaching was genuine and whose adulterated. The object of the test was that the heresy-teachers might be repudiated. The spirit in Peter writing of Israel says, “But there were false prophets also among the people even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them” (2. Peter 2:1). How were such false prophets to be treated? Moses says, they “shall be put to death” (Deut. 13:5). Even a “brother,” “son,” “daughter,” “wife,” or “friend,” who attempted to introduce idolatry was not to be spared (v. 6 to 11). The object was that Israel might be purged of evil. Communities were to be dealt with on the same principle as individuals. If it were reported that any one city had commenced to “serve other gods” (v. 12, 13) ‘then,” said Moses, “shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you, thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly and all that is therein” (v. 14, 15). 138 The comparison drawn in Peter’s epistle between false teachers in fleshly Israel and spiritual Israel is evidence that this Mosaic enactment contains a lesson for us. The use of the sword or anything destructive is out of the question; a practical protest by refusing to fellowship is the full extent of permitted action. The command to “enquire” is not at variance with New Testament injunction; it is in harmony with it. When, therefore, it is reported that any brother or ecclesia is following false doctrine, it is not only permitted, but it is obligatory on other brethren and ecclesias, to “enquire and make search, and ask diligently,” to see whether it be true and the thing certain. If it is, the responsibility of their position leaves no option but that of repudiating complicity with the evil. It is on this principle that ecclesial action has been taken on the Inspiration question. It was reported that false teaching existed in Spiritual Israel concerning the authorship of divine writings, and on “enquiring, making search, and asking diligently,” many have found “the thing certain.” Some, it will be said, have inquired without finding its existence; but it is necessary to remember that there are different ways of inquiring, and that none are so blind as those who do not wish to see. The evidence of its existence is indisputable, and there are no excuses to justify its being ignored. The repudiation of responsibility for the false teaching of those at a distance shows a defective appreciation of the unity which should exist between all the members of the one body. “The members should have the same care one for another, and whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it” (1 Cor. 12:25. 26.) Heresy searching among national Israel was not of diabolos, but of God; therefore heresy searching among Spiritual Israel, can have no other origin. And what is its result? It tends to preserve the purity of revealed truth. If a heresy test were of diabolos, it would be difficult to justify the repudiation of heresy; and thus the One Body would gradually become so defiled that pure doctrine would wholly disappear. Notes (“To ‘hunt for heresy’… is not the course of the righteous”) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1894, p. 484 A. F.—There can be no doubt that the reception and retention of the doctrine delivered by Paul to Timothy is essential to our salvation, as Paul plainly intimates in the passage you quote (1 Tim. 4:16), and there is no doubt that we make ourselves responsible for known corruption when we continue in fellowship with it. But as for the state of particular bodies and particular men, these are not to be judged by loose statements behind the backs of those affected; and sometimes they are not to be known at all except to Him who can discern the thoughts and intents of the heart. The best way is to take men at their professions, unless you have actual evidence that the professions are not true. To “hunt for heresy” and “dig up iniquity” is not the course of the righteous. Much has to be taken for granted. There is a blindness that is good. A man should principally sit in judgment upon himself. 139 Letter from Dr. Thomas By bro. John Thomas The Christadelphian, 1865, p. 155-159 West Hoboken, Hudson Co., New Jersey, U.S. Feb. 9, 1865, A. M. 5951. Dear bro. Tait, Yours of Jan. 17, is just received, conferring upon me a pleasure which is highly appreciated, and only surpassed by personal communion with the writer. I am always gratified at receiving letters from my friends, who, compared with my enemies are few and far between; but much more gratified when the letters come from those who are my friends for the truth’s sake. I am no man’s personal enemy. I have neither time nor inclination to trouble myself about persons, or their affairs. I have enough to do in this department to take care of my own personalia, without interfering in other people’s. But when they approach me on the premises of the truth, then they are either my friends or my foes, and I am theirs. I am their friend for the truth’s sake, or I am their foe for the truth’s sake. I would rather be the friend than the foe of any one upon any ground. This is the bent of my fleshly nature; and if men will not be friendly, I do not feel resentful, but my disposition is is to give them a wide berth or margin, because the world is wide; and if they are disposed to travel north, I will travel due south; or if they would go west, I will go due east; and think of them and theirs no more. This is the natural man. But if they pretend to be the friends of the truth, and they are neither intelligent in, nor faithful to, what I believe to be the truth, and will not consent to be instructed, then I have a duty to perform as one of Christ’s Brethren, in obedience to apostolic injunction, and that is, to “contend earnestly for the faith once for all delivered to the saints,” and in so doing, which is well-doing, “to put to silence the ignorance of foolish men,” that that their mouths being stopped, they may no longer subvert whole houses, and lead captive silly people laden with sins. In the performance of the duty common to all the faithful, I do not wait to be attacked. If no one will go with me to the assault, I go alone, with the determination to scatter them, or be demolished in the attempt; in which, however, I do not expect to succeed, because “the saints are prevailed against till the Ancient of Days comes.” Why then labour in expected failure? To obey the injunction, and to prove my own faith. In this spiritual warfare, whose weapons are neither lead nor steel, but more effective than either for putting to flight the aliens, there are neither truce, armistice, neutrality, nor peace. He that is not with us, is against us; and he that gathereth not with us, scattereth abroad. I for one, know no man in this warfare as a brother and friend who is neutral or not gathering. A man who is neutral stands by with arms folded and sees the enemy crushing me to death! He believes in the cause I am fighting for, but he calmly views my destruction without any sign of help. Is such a man my friend and brother? Is he not rather a sympathizer with the enemy? If he helped me, we might prove too strong for the foe; the enemy knowing this cannot look upon neutrals in any other light than his friends. And this is just where Christ puts all neutrals in the good fight of faith. But, if this be the position of neutrals, what shall be said of those who either oppose or nullify what we believe to be the truth? Who not only so, but seek to destroy the influence of those who have, while they were mere heathens, proved themselves through evil and through good report, and when the truth had few to say a good word for it, faithful advocates of it—what shall be said of them? They may virtually acquiesce in the theory of the truth, but can we call them friends and brethren? Are they Christ’s Brethren? How can they be seeing Christ is the truth? If they were Christ’s Brethren, they would love the zealous and disinterested advocates of the truth, and would be careful to do nothing that would embarrass them. Shall I call such enemies of Christ, my friends and brethren? I tell you, nay; I will have none such, if I know it. They are my enemies, and it is my duty to make war upon them. If I belong to the Spirit’s witnessing prophets clothed in sackcloth, and any man will to injure me in my witnessing, it is my duty to devour him with the fire of my mouth—to torment him with my testimony. He may not feel very 140 pleasant while under this fire: if he get wounded, it is his own fault; he should keep out of the way: but if he persist in storming our works, then “he must in this manner be killed.” I have no sympathy with a yea-and-nay profession and advocacy of the truth. It does no good to the professor, to those who are associated with him, nor to those dwelling in outer darkness. “The whole world lieth in the evil one”—in Sin; and the only exception to this, are the untraditionized believers of the truth we believe and teach and have obeyed; and are walking as little children therein. If we are these scriptural exceptions, we have nothing to do but keep clear of this evil world, and to testify against all the traditions it would substitute for the truth, or by which it may seek to nullify it. The greatest and most dangerous enemies to Christ are those who pretend to be his friends, but are not faithful to his doctrine; and they are unfaithful who from any motives of personal interest would weaken the point of the doctrine, or soften it for the gratification of their natural feelings, or for fear of hurting the feelings of the enemy, and so affecting their popularity with him. I trust that this is not the case with any of our friends in Calton Convening Rooms. They and all such in Britain have a great and important work before them in this country. It is to bring people to the understanding of the ancient apostolic doctrine and to the obedience of faith, in the form inculcated by them upon all believers. If our friends faithfully and intelligently execute this mission, they will be placed in opposition to all the world—they will find themselves in the position of the Spirit’s witnessing prophets, standing in the court of the Gentiles, and bearing testimony against “the God of the earth;” with all the power, learning, and influence of the Great Harlot, her State daughters, and dissenting abominations arrayed against them; and besides all this, the heartlessness and cowardice and treachery of professed neutrals and friends. To take up such a position, and to maintain it without surrender, requires knowledge and faith working by love of what is known. Hence, the necessity of meditation upon the word. This will develope faith, and the more an honesthearted man understands of the word untraditionized by what is falsely called science, the more enlarged and the stronger will his faith become; and the more valiant will he be for the truth, and the more efficient for the work before him as a “witness” a “prophet,” a “lightstand,” and an “olive tree” “before the Deity of the earth.” You can do nothing for the truth in the Modern Athens that will be recognized by the King at his appearing, if you follow your old ways when you used, as bro. Steel says, “to discuss everything, and settle nothing,” and call it exhortation and teaching. Such is mere twaddle, and will never make you appear before the enemy, the great Babylon around you, “fair as the moon, clear as the sun, and terrible as an army with banners.” You will only be terrible to your friends. “Discussing every thing and settling nothing” is a weakness that will never grow into strength. No good can possibly come out of it; and will cause no one to wax valiant in the fight, or or “to turn to flight the armies of the aliens.” Some are always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Such may unprofitably occupy time, but they can edify no one. All their “discussions” and “investigations” amount to nothing. The light of truth must shine clearly in a man’s head, before he can speak critically or accurately upon “the Deep things of the Spirit;” and if you undertake to implant these in the brains of Modern Athenians, who, like their brethren of old time, are exceedingly fond of gossip, you must be bright and lucid in your irradiations, that you may shine away the darkness of the subtleties, and the vagaries of the inner consciousness, with which the cup of the Old Harlot has crazed and intoxicated them. And this you will find to be, if you have not already done so, no easy work to do. The traditions radiating infinitely and at all angles, form almost an impenetrable cloud—a cloud which befogs every thing, and renders it impervious to “the simplicity that is in Christ.” But shall we despair? By no means. The work before us at present, is not to demolish Antichrist, and the tradition with which he is clothed as with a black and threatening cloud. This is beyond our power, as it is extra the mission of the saints against whom he has prevailed almost “forty and two months.” His demolition is their work, when joined therein by the Ancient of days. This is their patience and faith.—Rev. 13:10; 14:12. The real saints are waiting for this. In the meantime, they hold the position of the witnesses for Jesus; and it is required in witnesses, who are stewards of the 141 testimony, that they be faithful after the example of Christ and Antipas—Rev. 1:5; 3:14; 2:13. At present, they have to show the truth in every way that will make the truth shine; that it may stand out in the foreground of the picture so distinctly from all surroundings, that observers at a glance may distinguish it in all its outlines. without any possibility of confounding it with the dark cloud of the things beyond, This is the work for us to do, that men’ seeing the photograph, Christ written upon their minds by the testimony which is light, may confess that it is a true, faithful, and beautiful picture; and embracing it with affectionate hearts, may so put it into their bosom, and become married, or rather betrothed unto the Lord. In this way an enlightened and affectionate, and valiant people will be prepared for him; who will not only be watching for him, but with garments kept, and lamps well trimmed with the golden oil of the good olive tree, be ready to enter in on the closing of the door against all the world. But this bringing the truth out in striking contrast with the dark back ground of pious sinnerism, is exceedingly offensive to all the brethren of Demas; who forsook Paul, “having loved the present world” as he went to Thessalonica, where there were many faithful brethren. He did not perhaps forsake Paul’s theory. He may have held on to this; but he forsook Paul, doubtless, because he was “rude in speech,” and did not like his “plainness of speech” in which Paul seemed to delight. Perhaps, he thought, that to call brethren “false apostles, deceitful workers,” and ministers of Satan; and to wish that they were cut off who troubled the faithful: and to anathematize such respectable professors of astrologic science, and Hebrew divinity, as the Rev. Mr. Barjoses; to apostrophize him as “full of all subtilty, and of all mischief, child of the devil, and enemy of all righteousness, perverting the right ways of the Lord”—was “reviling and threatening,” “the language of harsh denunciation,” and uttered in “a tone and gesture” which did not “manifest the compassionate spirit of Jesus,” but “a spirit entirely foreign to his heart of hearts.” At all events, there was something about the apostle that brother Demas did not like, and caused him to turn his back upon him. It could not be Paul’s moral character, for he was unblameable; nor unscriptural teaching, for he said none other things than what the prophets said before him; it could hardly be his want of personal attractions, for Christ himself had none of these; there remains then only his rude and vulgar speech, which was not conformed to the diplomatic and forensic generalities of Cæsar’s circle. Paul’s style was not compatible with the interests of fashionable professors, who “love the present world.” This is the secret of the outcry made by the brethren of Demas in all ages since. They love the present world, which makes it utterly impossible for Christ’s faithful witnesses to work with them, or to please them. If, when you are testifying against the perverters of the right ways of the Lord, you use the “tone and gesture” of earnest contention for the faith, and specify the blasphemies which pervert it in language which truly and unmistakably define them; they accuse you of rudeness and reviling. They would have you adopt their style, as if you were pleading a case in court, in which you had no more interest than the fee you expected to obtain when you had got through your otherwise irksome task. They would reduce you to the cold, unimpassioned, style of a clerical reader of sermons, purchased in Paternoster Row, at so much per dozen. Whatever they may think, they dare not accuse Paul, Peter, John, Jude, and Christ of reviling; but they condemn their words in the mouths of Christ’s brethren. Oh say they, “Christ was inspired and infallible; but you are not, and have no right to do as he did.” But Peter exhorts us differently. He tells us, that Christ left us an example, that we should follow his steps: who did not sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: who, when he was reviled, reviled not again. Now, it is well to follow his steps in speaking, as well as in action. No better model for style than his can be found. He was a guileless enunciation of the truth in word, tone and gesture, which left his hearers unmistakably impressed with his meaning. He has not left us to the dictionary for the definition of the word “revile.” Matt. 5:11, clearly shows, that to revile is “to say all manner of evil against a man falsely:” to say evil of a man, or body of men, truly is not reviling. All said against Jesus reproachfully, was false, and therefore reviling; but all he said of his foes was true, and therefore not reviling, else to earnestly declare the truth is reviling. Now, it is not necessary to be miraculously inspired, nor infallible, to qualify for discerning the truth in relation to modern teachers as surely as Jesus did in regard to the Scribes and Pharisees. He 142 judged them by their fruits; and by the same rule, he said they should be known. When, therefore, men ascend a pulpit, and proclaim themselves to be the “ministers of Christ,” and “successors of the apostles,” we are as infallibly certain that they are the ministers of Satan, as Jesus was, that the Scribes and Pharisees were a generation of serpents; because they neither know the gospel nor have they obeyed it; and it is not reviling to proclaim this truth upon the housetops. Christ does not employ men as his ministers who are ignorant of his truth. They who think he does, are either ignorant of it themselves, or sceptical concerning it. If a man say, I am infallibly certain, that two and two make four, does any one reproach him for presumption? Or accuse him of setting up for an arithmetical pope? Did not Christ say, “He that believes the gospel, and is baptized, shall be saved? Is not this the oracle of heaven? Is it then dogmatizing, or presumption, or setting up for a religious pope, to say, I am infallibly certain, that there is no salvation for Jew or Gentile since the great Pentecost, who does not believe and obey the gospel in immersion. If a man affirm the contrary, is he not speaking evil falsely, or reviling Christ. For in so saying, or so insinuating, he is accusing him of saying what he did not mean; in plain terms, of lying; and that too, on a subject affecting the best interests of men, and the honor of God. I hope you have no brethren of Demas with you at Calton Convening Rooms. It is an evil thing to be in love with the present world. It destroys all valour for the truth, and undermines our faith; and it is only by faith we overcome the world. While Demas friends are twaddling about style, being, we may suppose very stylish people, let us leave the shadow to them, while we grasp the substance. Let us rejoice, that we know the truth, and they cannot deprive us of it. They may censure, and use all underhand means to alienate friends, and to bring us into disrepute; it all goes for nothing, and “passes by as the idle wind which we regard not.” For myself, I am absolutely independent of them in thought, word, and deed. I seek nothing they possess in the form of honor, approbation, substance, or any thing that is theirs; yet would I seek them, and were it possible, I would deliver them from their worldliness, their scepticism, and their traditions. I would show them a more excellent way in which they would do well to glory. But, adieu to Demas and his brethren! Turn we now to more genial things. You may perhaps like to hear how our brethren have been getting along in the Confederate States during the past three years. In Richmond and Lunenburg County, Virginia, they are all well and prosperous. A son of one of them who has been three years in the army of the South, is a prisoner on parole, and residing with me till he can get something to do. Believing it is wrong to be killing men, he put himself in a position to be captured. His captors sent him on North, and as I said, he is now with me. All I know of the brethren is from him. They hold their meetings regularly, and take no part in the war. The Confederate Congress passed an act, exempting them from military service, under the name of Nazarenes, on payment of 500 dollars. All are exempted who were members at the time of passing the act; but all who join them since, are liable to military conscription. My informant has four brothers in the army. One obeyed the gospel recently. He applied for his discharge, stating that he could not conscientiously use his weapons to destroy life. But his superiors reviled him. He appealed to his past service in twelve of the bloodiest battles of the war; and to his reputation with his comrades, in proof that it was not cowardice that caused his application. His valour was admitted, but conscience was ignored. He has often charged the enemy with his troop, but he will not kill. This course has arrested the notice of his captain, who has come to recognize the existence of conscience formed by the truth. On one occasion, he went into a charge in which all his company were killed or wounded except himself. His Captain said it was suicide, and he determined that he should expose himself no more. He was put therefore in a position in which he would not be called upon to fight. None of the brethren have lost any of their sons. How it may be if the war continues, who can tell? There was a motion made in the Confederate Congress, to drive them all out of the country! Had this been decreed, I should have despaired of Richmond and the South. But “the Earth helped the Woman.” An able speech was made on their defence, and the motion was lost. A brother in Norfolk, Va. writes, “We have had some severe trials since I wrote to you, but the Lord delivered us out of them all. I had several interviews with the General commanding here, when finally he 143 agreed to allow us to remain in this department upon the condition that he would not give us any protection; to which we agreed; asking of him, at the same time to keep the men off, and we should try to take care of ourselves. In reply to this he promised us, that they should not interfere with us. A word on the subject of protection. In order that one may be a recipient of all the good things promised in Ab. Lincoln’s proclamation, we are required to first of all take the oath of allegiance. After due compliance with this, the authorities give you a certificate of loyalty, upon the strength of which you can claim all the rights of a native born citizen; but without this certificate of loyalty, you can neither buy nor sell. Hence, you see that our operations under such restriction must necessarily be confined to a narrow compass; and that we are pretty closely hemmed in, at least for the present. We are consoled, however with the full assurance of faith and hope, that the God, and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ will deliver us from the present evil world, and will translate us into the kingdom of his dear son.” I am happy in being able to inform you, that I have nearly finished writing Eureka Vol. 2. I think it will effectually explode the Glasgow “conviction that the fulfilment of what is written in the book of the Revelations, from ch. 4. inclusive, is still future”—Messrs. Dowie, Cameron, & Co’s Messenger, No. vi. Vol. iii. p. xxiii. Such a “conviction” is conclusive that those who formed it are not of the blessed, who understand the words of the prophecy, and keep those things that are written therein.” I trust, however, that it may yet be possible to shine into their understandings; and to convince them that their “conviction” is untenable, and rashly and presumptuously formed. With kind regards to all the faithful who rejoice in the truth, and are devoted to it with a zeal according to knowledge. I remain, Faithfully and Affectionately Yours JOHN THOMAS. Our Great Sin By H.W. Hudson / bro. John Thomas Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1861, p. 212-213 BROTHER Thomas,—I have not received the Herald since June. This part of the country is a dry region without it. I hope the authorities of this broken union, have not suppressed it. I went last month to what they call the "Michigan Yearly Conference." It was held sixteen miles from Homer. I am compelled to testify that it was a great sham. No two seemed to have the like faith. There were Campbellites, and Adventists, and Marshites, and a long train of such. One Mr. Newman, the publisher of the Harbinger, and others were present from a distance. You were somewhat roughly handled in private conversation, among the brotherhood. Your great sin, of course, was that you are such an exclusionist and a divider of the flock. There was much talk of christian unity among them which when stript of all superfluousness means, unity of all who play upon the one string of "no life out of Christ." Genuine believers of "the Gospel of the Kingdom," are as scarce as gold dust in this part of the country. But, brother Thomas, go on in the good cause. I am thoroughly convinced that you are not only contending for the truth as it is in Jesus, but that you have it, and are holding fast to his name against all the foolishness of this age. I am alone in this place ; but I am trying to keep the faith, and to keep my garments in Jesus undefiled. Brother Thomas, you are not forgotten by me. My prayer is that you may live till Jesus comes. Do not be discouraged. These are perilous times I know ; but that we expect in the closing up of the times of the Gentiles. 144 If you should ever come to Michigan again, will you let me know it? I should like very much to hear you speak of the good word of the kingdom. In love to you I remain yours, H. W. HUDSON. Sep. 12, 1861. REMARKS. We beg leave to say that we exclude no one, not even a Jew, Mohammedan, or Pagan. It is not we that exclude, for it is not our prerogative to do so. We learn from the Bible that there is a certain thing called "the Word." We did not invent this, and therefore we are not responsible for its definitions and testimonies. We believe that the Deity is its author, and that therefore He is responsible for all its hard and crucifying sayings, and the exclusion of all from his salvation except the few, whom He condescends to choose. "Many" saith he "are called, but few are chosen;" "many shall seek to enter in, and shall not be able;" and " strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth into life, and few there be that find it." All this is very exclusive ; but this is not our "great sin ;" if sin it be at all. If the Deity had waited until be had consulted the Michigan Conference, and had deferred to its advice, He would have reversed this arrangement, providing only for the salvation of "the few I" "But he did not wait to consult it, nor any of his creatures; which plainly indicates to our mind that He had no respect for any of their opinions or views in the premises. What He hath purposed he hath purposed in himself for his own good pleasure. Eph. i. 9; Rev. iv. ii. In this we acquiesce with perfect and entire satisfaction. All, then, we have to do is to study this word, and to find out what it teaches for faith and obedience. We endeavor to discover how the word defines the few that shall be saved ; and what it says of "the gate" and "the way which leadeth into life." We believe that we understand what the word teaches upon these important subjects; and we tell an unthankful and perverse generation what it says. We show its " wise and prudent" who the word excludes, and who it does not; and because it excludes them, and theirs that " wonder after " them, they hate it ; but to conceal their hatred to the word, they handle roughly in their talk all who show the condemnation that word fulminates against them. Thus while they hate God, as evinced in their "casting his words behind them," they transfer their attacks to them who are more accessible; for He is in the heaven but we upon the earth. But never mind; their tongues may prevail against us now until the Ancient of Days shall come. Their rough handling we regard as little as their foolish talk ; and surely, if they could only know our supreme indifference to it, they would change the subject of their conversation. But, doubtless, it gratifies; for it is so fine a thing to be thought "liberal and charitable." It makes us so popular with the Old Adam; and who can doubt it, when we denounce "exclusionists," and proclaim the salvation of all who believe a negative? As to being "a divider of the flock," in the name of scripture and reason, what "flock" is that? A flock identical with the Michigan Conference? When was it ever united'? Who can divide a heterogenous flock of Campbellites, Adventists, Marshites, et id genus emu? Division is the essence of such a flock, whose falling asunder is a matter of no concern in heaven above, nor in the earth beneath, save to those whose craft it is to feed or cram it with traditions palatable to the flesh. Introduce the truth among them and it will throw them into uproar ; and if there be any honest and good hearts among them, it will cause them to evacuate the house of Jezebel with all promptitude and dispatch, lest partaking in her sins they become obnoxious to the ruin which impends. We glory indeed in being a divider of all such from so goatish a community. Christ's sheep are a flock who know the shepherd's voice, which is the truth. This never divides them, and they make no outcry against excluding wolves and goats, from their fold. They are particularly anxious that they should not be permitted to creep in at unawares. They do not like the scent of goats nor the teeth and claws of dogs and wolves. They have no more tolerance for a great goat, or a big wolf in their fold, than for little ones. The greater the goat and the bigger the wolf, the more 145 careful they are to make all the sheep see that though coated with much wool, they are but goats and wolves after all. And we never yet heard a real sheep say, "this is very offensive to us”. The Christadelphian By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1891, p. 149-150 (He is not ashamed to call them brethren.—Heb. 2:11.) April, 1891 God has been pleased to subject those who desire to conform to His word to what sometimes amounts to painful embarrassment, by having required of them things that at first sight are incompatible with one another. They are to do good to all men, and yet to be not unequally yoked with unbelievers. They are to be “in the world” and yet to “come out from among them and be separate.” They are to love their enemies and yet to love not the world. They are to be patient with the erring and yet to abhor that which is evil, and not to bear with men that are evil. They are to think no evil and yet to try professors. They are to submit to wrong and yet to refuse even to eat with men called brethren who espouse wrong doing, or error. They are to show hospitality and yet to receive not into their houses those who bring not the doctrine of Christ. There is, doubtless, an object in prescribing these apparently conflicting duties. It sets up contrary mental currents that at last bring about a fine equilibrium of character which would not be attainable if duty lay all in one direction. But often the effort to conform brings distress, and it is impossible not to feel pity for men sacrificing one duty in their endeavour to conform to another. These thoughts are suggested by an effort in Lincoln, which may be well meant enough in some directions, but which cannot receive favour from a complete enlightenment. It is an effort that tacitly invites us to repudiate the policy of insisting upon a wholly-inspired and infallible Bible as the basis of fellowship, by adopting a “basis of fellowship” that omits it. This document is most plausible in its wording, as all efforts in a wrong direction are; but in its meanings and implications, it is far worse than its promulgators probably intend or have any idea of. It formulates an impossible rule of withdrawal, which turns the ecclesia into a judgment seat of the Papistical order. The apostolic rule is to “withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly,” and from those who teach heresy, without reference to the question of what the Lord may finally think of them. And this rule is defensive in its bearing, not offensive. It means that we are not to be partakers of other men’s sins. John lays down the axiom that He that receives the holder of wrong doctrine or practices partakes of their evil deeds. In withdrawing, we wash our own hands. We leave to God those whom we withdraw from. We are not authorised to judge or condemn them. But this document lays it down that we must not withdraw, unless we are prepared to maintain that the cause of withdrawal will make salvation impossible. This would erect an ecclesia into a spiritual judicature, deciding questions which the Lord has reserved for himself. The document proposes “union with all who have not forfeited their right to the fully assured salvation.” How can such rule be carried out? How can we know who have and who have not forfeited the said right? It is calling upon us to pronounce on a matter beyond our jurisdiction, and that has been placed beyond it by the express command to “judge not,” “condemn not.” The time for withdrawal is when men drift into unscriptural attitudes of faith or practice. These we note and separate ourselves from, without reference to the question of whether the offenders can be 146 saved, which we cannot decide. And the withdrawal is not putting them out but going out ourselves, as the term implies. We simply go away, saying we cannot be responsible. The attitude prescribed by this “basis” would place the ecclesia in a chair of authority, with power of excommunication, arrogating the right to “cut off” or say the excommunicated cannot be saved. Faithful men are more truly modest, while more uncompromising towards departure from the faith than the sentiments that inspire this basis. Faithful men say, “we have no power to cut off: Christ will do that. But we have power to withdraw; and this we will do with however much reluctance and pain, when the Word of God and its obligations are tampered with by whomsoever.” We will exercise this liberty unhampered by any assumptions as to the position of those who have technically “responded to the Gospel call.” The basis declares that all such are “in union and fellowship with the Father.” This is not true. There were many in the apostolic age who had “obeyed the Gospel call,” whom the Apostles repudiated as “enemies of the cross of Christ” (Phil. 3:18)—spots in their feasts of charity (Jude 12); who claimed to be Jews but were not, but lied (Rev. 3:9). It is a fundamental principle as to the operations of the gospel, that “many are called but few are chosen,” and that “all are not Israel that are of Israel.” This is a principle which we cannot apply, and which we are not called upon to apply. We do not know who will be chosen of those who have been called. We have nothing to do with saying who will and who will not be saved, as regards profession of the truth. The thing we have to do is to take care of our own standing in relation to the prevailing corruptions. We refuse to be implicated in these, while entertaining the very best wishes concerning all men. We mingle with Bible charity the most decisive resolution not to be compromised by any class of men, whether they have gone through “the waters of baptism” or no. Unless we observed this apostolically prescribed scrupulosity, the truth would soon be suffocated and disappear. Men who decline it are the enemies of the truth without intending it perhaps—all which will appear in a very plain light when the expediencies of the passing mortal hour are at an end in the manifested presence of the author of the seven messages to the ecclesias. The End of the Inspiration Controversy in Birmingham The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 299-310 We have reached the end of the inspiration controversy in Birmingham. How we have done so, and with what effects will best be gathered from the following extracts from documents:— 64, Belgrave Road, Birmingham, 20th May, 1885. DEAR BROTHER, —Come and have a cup of tea and a free talk, on Friday next, the 22nd inst., at 6–30, with the object of seeing if anything can be done to restore the unity and cordial feeling which have, to some extent, been impaired by the unhappy controversy into which we have been plunged by the introduction of the doctrine of partial inspiration. Our united repudiation of that doctrine ought to make it possible to get into a happier state. Let us see what we can do. If we talk matters over in a frank and sincere way, good may come of it: no harm can come, at all events. * * * Faithfully your brother, ROBERT ROBERTS. About thirty brethren were invited. The result of the meeting was far from satisfactory. While the Ashcroft-Chamberlin theory was nominally repudiated, there was a pleading for the recognition of errors, or the possibility of errors in the Bible (unimportant they were called) in a way that was inconsistent with the hearty recognition of its inspired character. There was also a manifest disposition to tolerate in our midst the theory nominally repudiated. There seemed no alternative but the course 147 resolved upon next day. On the 23rd, the following letter was addressed, through the post, to every brother and sister in the ecclesia:— DEAR BRETHREN AND SISTERS, Greeting you in the love of God whose acquaintance we have made in the Holy Scriptures, given by His inspiration. May He extend to us His compassion in our affliction. There exists a necessity for the re-adjustment of our ecclesial relations, Our present situation is not conducive to the union, love, and peace that belong to the house of Christ. We are not one as to a fundamental principle of our fellowship. A doctrine, promulgated by brother Ashcroft, and endorsed by brother Chamberlin (to the effect that the Scriptures are partly human and fallible in their composition), is held by a goodly number in our midst. Past writings among us show that it has been our principle to refuse immersion to any who brought this doctrine with them. It is therefore impossible it can be recognised in our basis of fellowship. I feel truly sorry for many who have embraced it: for I am certain had such a doctrine been introduced to their notice by any one not professedly a brother, they would not have listened to it for a moment. The question is, what is to be done? Some months ago, we adopted a resolution intended to commit us to an acceptance of the true doctrine of inspiration: but the terms of the resolution (which were sincerely modified to secure unanimity and peace), have been so construed by those holding the partial inspiration doctrine as to express their views. Consequently it has failed in its object, and we are driven to reconsider our position in the interests of that growth in the comfort and knowledge of the truth, without which, an ecclesia exists in vain. No good purpose can be served by glossing over the matter and trying to make it appear that there is no difference. The actual and glaring character of the difference is shown by the way it is regarded among those who are not with us. Atheists rejoice at the new doctrine and call it “progress”: uncertain persons of all sorts have given it a hearty welcome. People who have once been with us and left us on various differences, have been ready with their congratulations; while amongst ourselves, enmity and strife have prevailed ever since its advent. Fellowship in such a situation is impossible. Fellowship is cordial and loving union, springing from oneness of mind in divine things. Here is disunion with reference to that which in modern times is the first of all first principles—viz., the character of the book on which we base all our hopes and principles of life. We appended to our resolution an intimation that we would not withdraw from any one accused of holding partial inspiration without a formal individual procedure. But this pre-supposed a sincere resolve on all hands to stand by the doctrine intended to be defined in the first part of the resolution. And so far as I am concerned, the addition was accepted with the express reservation (openly announced at the time to those proposing it) that my hands should not be tied with regard to any process that might subsequently appear to be necessary to give effect to the resolution. It has become impossible to carry out the resolution by the process of individual applications. Those who ought to vote for its application are set against it in their minds. The attempt to rectify our position in this way would, therefore, only plunge us into a harassment most destructive to all the objects of the truth. Those who believe in a wholly inspired and infallible Bible are desirous of being extricated in a way that will be thorough and peaceful. Such a desire has been expressed to me: it can be done. The object of this circular is to indicate and open the way. On the 22nd inst., I invited to a friendly tea-meeting the leading brethren among those who, at the beginning, disapproved of my attitude on this matter. My object was to promote the cordial state of communion that ought to exist among those professedly agreed on the subject, but which has been consciously lacking for many months past. The result was to make it manifest that the doctrine of partial inspiration is held and sympathised with as much as ever. I submitted to them that it was impossible to walk together in such a state of disagreement. I recommended their peaceful retirement. To this they strenuously object. We must therefore attain the same result in another peaceable way. There is no good 148 to be served by any further contention. It is for those who cannot be implicated in the doctrine of partial inspiration to quietly step aside and re-organise themselves in an ecclesial capacity. As a preliminary to this, it is necessary to find out who are of this mind. This cannot be done by individual canvass. It can be done by the process in which I hereby invite your concurrence. I enclose a post-card on which is printed a statement necessary to be made under the circumstances. I have written your name on the top of the card for the sake of connecting it with you. If you approve, all that will be necessary will be for you to drop the card into the nearest pillar. If you prefer to attach your initials, it would prevent any mistake from accidental posting. To those who return this card through the post, I will send a ticket of admission to a special meeting to be convened for the consideration of the next step to be recommended. The result, in the end, will be to leave in the Temperance Hall (whatever their number), those who will hold no parley or compromise with the doctrine of a partly-inspired Bible. I should gladly have followed anyone else’s lead in this matter; but, as all have been waiting and expecting, I have had no alternative but accept the onus of moving. Individually, I am resolved on this course, whatever the consequences may be; and I shall be very thankful for the company in it of every one who feels moved to be courageous for God’s sake in a day when our only point of conscious contact with Him is in the oracles of His truth, “committed” to Israel ages ago, and committed to the hands of every faithful brother and sister since. I must submit as patiently as I can to the imputation of unworthy motives which is being freely indulged in by such as cannot read the situation accurately. God knows the heart. Even men of ordinary discernment ought to be able to see that my action is unfavourable to all the objects which some think I am pursuing. It is not a likely way of preserving what they unhappily call “vested interests” but of damaging them disastrously. The only “interest” I am seeking to promote is the interest that God has committed to the hand of every faithful servant. A situation exists which is paralysing spiritual endeavour. A doctrine is in our midst which has power to “eat as doth a canker.” With that doctrine, I, for one, can have no connection; and I ask the concurrence countentance, and co-operation, of every man and woman whose enlightenment enables them to form a like determination. With love to all, and striving above all things to be, in an evil generation, a friend of God and a good steward of the unsearchable riches of Christ, ROBERT ROBERTS. The post-card was worded as follows:—“Brother Ashcroft, having publicly promulgated, and brother Chamberlin having publicly endorsed, a doctrine to the effect that the Bible is only partly-inspired, and that there is in it an element of merely human composition liable to err, I recognise the necessity for standing aside from all who refuse to repudiate this doctrine, and I will co-operate in any measures that may be adopted to enable us in Birmingham to do so in a peaceful manner.” An unexpectedly large response, of the right sort, was made; but there were some letters also of a kind that suggested the writing of the following:— 137, Edmund Street, Birmingham, June 1, 1885. DEAR BRETHREN AND SISTERS,—Greeting: God be with you. I have received several letters on the subject of our impending action in Birmingham. Some of them I have answered directly to the writers: the reception of others suggests to me the advisability of addressing a general letter to you all in the probability that others, who have not written, may share the views and sentiments expressed in the letters I have received. 149 Those letters condemn the proposed course as unscriptural, on the ground that accused persons ought first to be heard. This shows a misapprehension of what we are doing. We make no accusation against persons. We recognise a state of things existing in our community which no form of individual process can deliver us from.—This state of things appears in our eyes a corrupt state of things through the introduction and favourable reception by many, of a doctrine concerning the Bible, which in its latest formulation (by new statement and endorsement of previous utterances) asks us to believe:— 1.—That belief in a wholly-inspired Bible is “a remnant of theological superstition,” “the doctrine of Romanism,” “a credulous opinion,” “a pious sentiment inherited from orthodox sources,” and held in common with “Romanism and the Protestant sects generally” (Æon for May 8, page 252, col. 1, line 34: p. 250, 2nd par., col. 1). 2.—That those who believe it are in a state of “orthodox innocence,” that is, innocence of true knowledge and discrimination (page 250, col. 1, line 12 from bottom). 3.—That is a doctrine that ought to be “reconsidered and reconstructed” (8 lines further up). 4.—That “there is a human element in the Bible, except where matters of revealed truth are concerned” (page 250, col. 1, par. 3), implying a distinction between things in the Bible that are revealed truth, and things that are not: and our ability to distinguish and decide between the one and the other. 5.—That although, in a sense, inspiration has had to do with it all, “inspiration (securing infallibility) has only been given where it claims to have been given” (same page and col., par. 2, at end)—involving the conclusion that when, as regards the rest of the Bible, inspiration is admitted, by inspiration is meant an authorship that is not infallible. 6.—That consequently, though the Bible “contains that which was God-breathed” (page 250, col. 2, line 5) large parts of it being histories for which infallible inspiration (!) by this contention is not claimed, are not infallible, and contain in fact “actual contradictions and erroneous statements of various kinds” (Exegetist, page 4, col. 1, line 6; page 6, col. 1, line 48: Æon, Nov. 21, page 69, line 41; page 70, line 21.) 7.—That while all “Scripture” might be admitted to be inspired, it would take inspiration itself to decide what (in the Bible) constitutes Scripture. (Bro. Ashcroft’s proposal, per Professor Evans, Christadelphian for Feb. 1885, page 60, line 25). I do not think it necessary to show that these principles are destructive of the individual confidence essential to our profitable use of the Scriptures in their daily reading, and of the effectiveness with which we have hitherto wielded the sword of the spirit against various forms of modern error. I take it that you will recognise this, and further that you perceive and feel the dishonour which they cast upon God’s word, to which it is impossible we can reconcile ourselves. The question is how we are to proceed to get rid of them in our midst. In the present form of things, we are helplessly compromised by the presence of many in our midst who either favour those principles or sympathise with and co-operate with the measures of those who have promulgated them. What we propose to do is to take a line of action that will make no mistake—a line of action that will do justice, first, to the word of God, and, secondly, to every faithful upholder of it. We do not propose to accuse anyone. We propose to rally to the right doctrine, and then to step aside from all who refuse to do this, or (which is the same thing) who refuse to repudiate the error and those who teach it. The community as a community has become corrupt. We propose to cease our connection with it on this account. We will go out in the name of allegiance to the Bible as God’s wholly-inspired and infallible word. This is a Scriptural line of action. To “come out from among them” is a matter of command when a community, as such, has become hopelessly corrupt. We have done it before when we came out of the sects which claim to be Christ’s people. It is the only course that can extricate us from the false position in which we have been placed by the reception of a false and destructive doctrine by so many in our midst. It will inflict hardship on no one who is prepared to be faithful to the oracles of God. It will only exclude those who hesitate, and the exclusion will be their own act. 150 Those who quote Matt. 18:15–16 must misread the situation or misunderstand the precept. It is no case of trespass by a brother against a brother. It is no case of individual accusation. It is the case of a principle to which as a community we have become unfaithful; and where individual loyalty can only be developed by wholesale action of the kind exemplified by Moses when he stood outside the congregation of the Lord’s own people, and said “who is on the Lord’s side?” The Levites rallied to him. Havoc was introduced into the camp, although it was the Lord’s camp. Men faithful to God gladly rally to imperilled divine interests. If they were not allowed an opportunity of doing so, there would be ground for complaint of hardship. If those who hesitate are hurt, it is not the fault of those who take the right course. They are themselves responsible. Moses will certainly not be held responsible for those who did not come at his call, and perhaps perished in the camp. We have no man of the authority of Moses: but we have sacred obligations which become incorporate in ourselves in proportion as we perceive and accept them. Such an obligation is operative at the present time. Our whole foundation is being tampered with. Those who ought to defend that foundation are in sympathy with and apologising for and helping those who are tampering with it. No voting process can purge us from the spiritual leprosy that has crept in among us, and as for a “hearing,” we have been hearing one another for seven months. If our minds are not made up now, it is not likely that any further hearing will help us. In the judicial sense, it is no case for hearing, because it is not a case of accusation. It is a case of washing our hands in a way that gives everyone the opportunity of taking part in it. We affirm a principle of truth and duty; all who are loyal to that principle will rally to it, and if they fail to do so, the result of their failure is their own. Constitutions of our own devising are of no validity when the foundation on which they are built is called in question with the concurrence of a large part of those who constitute our community, or at least, without courageous resistance on their part. The only course is to do as Moses did: to step out and say “Who is on the Lord’s side?” I cannot agree with those who say we should only separate from those who teach error, and not from those who believe it (which I take it is practically the same thing as “refusing to repudiate”). The basis of all fellowship is identity of belief—not identity of teaching—though the latter would follow from the former. Some object to the flower, but not to the root. Let us take out the root of our present distress, and then the distress will end. Some quote Paul’s words, “Him that is weak in the faith, receive ye, but not to doubtful disputation.” The words are not applicable to a case like the present. I understand Paul to be speaking about weakness as to matters outside the faith on the part of some in the faith. The context will show that this is the case. But in our case, the weakness refers to the first principle of the faith: for the beginning of our faith is the divine inspiration and consequent infallibility of the Bible. Paul nowhere recommends us to receive those who are in doubt as to first principles. On the contrary, he inculcates jealousy and faithfulness as to these. Now, we propose to step aside in the name of a wholly-inspired Bible. If some who are “ignorant or uncandid” do so with us (as some say they will), the Lord is their judge, and will not hold us responsible for what we do not know. If others who believe with us are not strong enough to stop with us, but who prefer to remain with those who corrupt the truth by uncertain doctrine, we cannot be responsible for them. They say “God speed” to that which they condemn, and by John’s rule they make themselves “partakers of the evil.” What they would have us do would be to stay with them in this evil-partaking association in the name of human “rules” which have become inoperative for the purposes of their adoption, and the attempt to apply which would be to plunge us into a fatal froth-ocean of agitation and excitement. No; we want to follow peace with those who call upon the Lord out of a pure heart. We are sure about the complete inspiration of the Bible. We don’t want, at this late hour, to be laying again the foundation of this most primitive of all first principles. We want, in love and holiness and peace, to be 151 building ourselves up in the faith which they impart to us, and not to be consuming one another in the endless technical disputations which have been introduced among us. I exceedingly regret having to take any course that may separate any who have heretofore been in fellowship with one another; but I am helpless. If there were any medium course that would secure the full advantage of a pure and decided ecclesial attitude, while preventing the apprehended isolation of some who are prepared for that attitude, but not to take it in this way, I should be glad to concur in it: but I see none. I cannot but be thankful at the number of those who, up to this date, have sent in their adhesion to the course proposed. I was fully prepared for only a small return of the post cards: whereas, those which have come in represent a majority of the whole ecclesia. There are doubtless others who will make up their minds in a favourable sense before our meeting on Friday week: including, perhaps, those to whose letters I thought this the most convenient form of answer. Faithfully your brother, ROBERT ROBERTS. P.S.—I may say that I should probably have been at the Board School meeting last week (a meeting convened by the disapprovers) if I had not had a previous engagement that took me away on Tuesday morning to Spalding and Nottingham; also that I claim no “authority” beyond that which every man possesses to do the best in his power for God in his day and generation. The Meeting for Action This was held on Friday, June 12th. The following resolutions were adopted:— 1. That this meeting, consisting of (about 330) brethren and sisters, whose names have been read, and who have signified beforehand their unanimity with regard to the objects for which they are convened, hereby records and professes its conviction that the doctrine of the divine inspiration and consequent infallibility of the Scriptures in all parts of them (as originally written by prophets and apostles) is the first principle of that system of truth which forms the basis of our fellowship one with another in Christ; and that, consequently, we are unable to compromise that principle by continuing in association with those who either believe or tolerate the doctrine publicly promulgated by brother Ashcroft, and publicly endorsed and defended by brother Chamberlin, that the Bible is only partly inspired, and contains an element of merely human authorship liable to err. 2. That, in execution of this determination, we hereby separate ourselves from the organisation heretofore subsisting in the Temperance Hall, on the ground that many in that organisation either hold the doctrine of partial and fallible inspiration, or think it right to remain in association and co-operation with those who do. 3. That a letter be written to those we leave behind, expressing our regret at parting with many among them, and inviting as many as are able to unite themselves with us on the basis expressed in our first resolution. 4. That the following be the letter addressed to them:—(See further on.) 5. That as the legal occupation of the Temperance Hall vests in us, through bro. Roberts, to whom the lease is granted, we cannot but resolve to remain in the Temperance Hall; but desiring to avoid all discourtesy, even in appearance, we offer to provide a meeting-place for those who come not with us for a period of four weeks, so as to give them time to deliberate and resolve upon their future procedure. 6. That being the greater number (both of the executive and general body) of those heretofore constituting the organisation known as the Birmingham Ecclesia, we hereby use the power residing in the majority, of dissolving the said organisation, and do hereby declare it to be, from and after this date, DISSOLVED. 7. That we recognise the right of those from whom we have separated, to an equitable share in the funds and effects of the late organisation now in our hands; and we, therefore, hereby resolve to make a 152 liquidation of the same, and to offer them a pro rata dividend, calculated individually, or (if they prefer it) to hand it over in a sum total, according to the list of names which they may furnish us, constituting their assembly. 8. That we now and hereby re-incorporate ourselves as the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. 9. That before we re-adopt our constitution and order, a committee (afterwards to be named) be appointed to consider the same in a leisurely way, with a view to the adoption of improvements (if any), which may have been suggested by the experience of the last twenty years. 10. That pending the adoption of such revised constitution, the following brethren be, and are hereby appointed, by the vote of this meeting, to act in the several necessary offices of service, viz.:—(Names follow). 11.—That the presiding and managing brethren be the Committee for the revision of the constitution, as suggested in Resolution IX. The following was immediately transmitted through the post, to the disapprovers, as A LETTER To those who have not seen their way to separate with us from a position of compromise with the doctrine of partial and fallible inspiration. DEAR BRETHREN AND SISTERS—The circulars addressed to you through the post will have prepared you for the act which we have felt called upon to perform, and of which we now desire to acquaint you in the spirit of brotherly love. We have to-night adopted the following among other resolutions. (Here follow 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7). With our reasons for the course of action authorised in these resolutions, you have been made acquainted. We need not trouble you with them again at any length. A doctrine was introduced among us some time ago, and received with favour from some, and non-resistance by others, which is calculated, in our judgment, to undermine confidence in the Bible as the word of God. That doctrine is (however disguised it may be in elegant periphrases and plausible disclaimers), that the Scriptures are not wholly reliable; that there is an element of error in them, due to the absence of Divine inspiration in the writing of parts of them, or to the presence of an inspiration that did not keep the writers from error. The doctrine that inspiration may err we regard as the most serious of all the views to which this controversy has given birth. We cannot help feeling that it comes perilously near to blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Many of you say you do not hold this doctrine. At this, we are glad, but your determination to abide by those who do hold it, or uphold those who teach it, makes it impossible for us in our action to make any discrimination between you and them. It is a scriptural principle which commends itself to reason, that he that biddeth a man God-speed, in an evil course, makes himself responsible for that course (2 Jno. 11). The principle is illustrated all through those Scripture histories which some of you say are not inspired. God said to Israel He would be no more with them until they put away from their midst the offender against Divine appointment (Josh. 7:12). He told them on another occasion, by Moses, that they would be consumed in the sin of Korah if they did not depart from them (Num. 16:24–26). He expressed His approval of Phinehas for his voluntary zeal against the sinners in the camp (Num. 25:10, 12), and of Jehu, for laying a trap for the worshippers of Baal (2 Kings 10:18, 30). The principle received expression in apostolic times, in Christ’s condemnation of those churches that suffered wrong teaching in their midst (Rev. 2:14, 20), and His approbation of those who could not bear the evil, but exposed the pretences of false apostles (Rev. 2:2, 6), also in Paul’s command to purge out the old leaven (1 Cor. 5:6, 7), to turn away from those having an empty form of godliness (2 Tim. 3:5) and in the Spirit’s summons to “Come out” of Babylon, lest being, by fellowship, partakers of her sins, we receive also of her plagues (Rev. 18:4). Now, in our judgment, it is not possible for men to commit a greater evil in our age than to corrupt and weaken the word of God by a doctrine that it is not wholly reliable. We do not wish to argue the 153 question with you now: we merely wish to acquaint you with the reason of our present action which is most painful to us. We cannot make ourselves responsible for the dishonour to God’s word implied in the doctrine of partial and erring inspiration; nor for the consequences that will certainly spring from it in the workings of things among many. We do not feel at liberty to sanction in our midst any compromise of Paul’s statement that all the Holy Scriptures of Timothy’s acquaintance were given by inspiration of God. You may believe Paul’s statement equally with ourselves, but if you make yourselves one with those who nullify it by the doctrines they hold, you erect the same barrier between us and you that exists between us and them. We do not say by this that you are not brethren, or that Christ will refuse you at His coming. We leave that. We do not judge you; we judge ourselves. We say we cannot be implicated in the position which you feel at liberty to hold towards the new doctrine that has been introduced. We desire to regard you with feelings of friendship and brotherly love; but so long as you retain connection with a false doctrine of so dangerous a character, you compel us to set aside, in the spirit of Paul’s recommendation, which while telling us to count you not as enemies, but to admonish you as brethren, at the same time directs us to have no company while things are on a footing that does not allow of it. We invite you to abandon your doubtful position and unite yourselves with us on the ground we have defined in the resolutions set forth. We do not press you. You must be guided by your own judgments. If you do not see eye to eye with us as to what is expedient to be done, you can but act according to your convictions; but for ourselves, we dare not hesitate longer to adopt a course which we feel is called for by faithfulness and purity and peace. We hope that reconsideration may, by-and-bye, enable many of you to see the matter in what appears to us a scriptural light. Meanwhile, we are compelled to forego your further companionship at the Temperance Hall. When you are prepared to take our attitude, as expressed in Resolution 1, it will be more than a pleasure to us to see you resume your place. With best wishes, Signed on behalf of the meeting, J. J. POWELL. J. E. WALKER. R. ROBERTS. Results About 330 brethren and sisters have declared for a wholly-inspired Bible as a first principle in our basis of fellowship, not to be compromised by association with believers in a partial and fallible inspiration. These met together in their separate capacity, for the first time, in the Temperance Hall, on Sunday, June 14th. It was necessary to use tickets of admission to the floor for convenience of separation. About 140 of the others attended, and took their places in the gallery as “a silent protest” against the action of the others. That action is called “unconstitutional.” So it is: but it may be something better. There are higher acts than constitutional acts. Constitutionalities are secondary: essentialities come first, and sometimes must over-rule the other. What is the quality expressed by the word “constitutional?” That which is according to the constitution. And what is a constitution? The laws or rules agreed to for the pursuance of a common end. They are binding so long as the object of their existence is attainable by them; but when they become an obstacle to their object, they lose their force. There are times in the workings of every form of human society when it is legitimate to suspend constitutional forms. Constitutional forms grow out of vital conditions; and when vital conditions are interfered with, the constitutionalities collapse, whether in individual or corporate life. A man, for example, must have food and air. Interfere with these, and constitutional forms are nowhere. Society must be protected from violence; and in the presence of treason and insurrection, the constitutional forms that are serviceable for times of peace and order, disappear before martial law. A society of people are bound by their laws as long as the principles that underlie these laws are upheld. An ecclesia exists first for the truth of God (which is independent of all constitutions, and cannot be made the subject of 154 legislation, but only of formulation for concurrent agreement); secondly, for the duty arising out of the truth; and thirdly, for its corporate operations as regulated by constitution (otherwise, concurrent assent). The foundation of the whole structure is the truth; and the first part of the truth, in our day, is that the Bible is the wholly-inspired and infallible word of God. The denial, or the toleration of the denial of this, is interference with a vital condition of ecclesial life, and calls for the disregard of human constitutionalities that may stand in the way of its resistance. This is the explanation and the justification of a mode of procedure which will be commended or condemned, according as the spectator sees God or man in the case. A zealous servant of God recognising the principle at stake will readily condone a mere question of mode in view of the vital interest secured. A man having hazy or faltering convictions of the inspiration of the Bible will, of course, lean the other way. The matter in question is not the accuracy of trifling Biblical details—whether genealogical or otherwise. It is the principle which has been laid down to account for supposed errors in these departments that has to be resisted to the utmost— principles which, when fully worked out—(and principles do work themselves out in communities, whether intended or not)—would reduce large parts of the scripture to mere Hebrew literature of questionable reliability; and, by re-action, all the rest as well. Notes (The Action at Birmingham) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1885, p. 572 E. C.—The action at Birmingham will make no difference to places that have already accepted, or are prepared to accept, a wholly-inspired Bible as a first principle in the basis of fellowship. Notes (Persistent Error) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1880, p. 572 J.S.—The only remedy for persistent error, when all endeavour to remove it from the mind of the subject of it is a failure, is that prescribed by Jesus to the disciples in reference to the Scribes and Pharisees: “Let them alone.” This cannot be followed out except by dissociation or withdrawal, which, however painful to the feelings, will operate wholesomely on both sides, by at all events securing peace one side and opportunity for reflection on the other. Tour in Scotland By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1867, p. 267-271 THE EDITOR’S refusal to break bread with the Aberdeen brethren on account of their connection with the Dowieites, was the subject of warm debate at two meetings. He was closely taken to task for his conduct, which he defended on principles familiar to all who are alive to the bearing of the truth. His first answer was that the Dowieites were unfaithful to the truth. This was met by a declaration that we ought not to judge each other. Now, let us look at this for a moment, and we shall find that it is a fallacy of the most pernicious kind. That we are not to judge is true in the sense intended by Christ when he said “Judge not.” We are not to decide who of those, believing the truth, are worthy or unworthy of eternal life; nor to carry out our conviction on such a point by repudiating those whom we may regard unfavourably, except where an open violation of the commandments of Christ takes place. It is Christ’s 155 especial function to do this, and to separate the chaff from among the wheat, but it is not true that we are to shut our eyes to delinquency, and extend our fellowship without discrimination. In this we are to judge, in the sense of determining our duty toward those to whom we may stand related We are to decide where fellowship should be given and where it ought to be withheld. If this is not a true principle, whence arises the distinction between the ecclesia and the world? We come out of the world; we separate from the apostacy; we withdraw from the fellowship of both, and would, one and all, refuse to resume that fellowship by admitting parties belonging to either class into the ecclesia, and we would even, without dispute, refuse to countenance a disobedient brother. Paul says to the Corinthians (1st Epistle, 5:11), I have written unto you NOT TO KEEP COMPANY if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.” Again, to the Thessalonians, he says (2 Epistle, 3:14) “If any man obey not our word by this epistle, have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.” Again, verse 6, same chapter, “Withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the traditions which he received of us.” Again, (1 Tim. 6:3, ) “If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, * * * from such withdraw thyself.” Now here are plain apostolic injunctions which cannot be carried out without forming a judgment on the matters involved. For how shall we know when to withdraw from another, unless we conclude that a state of things justifying it, exists? And how can we come to this conclusion without observing and considering the matters leading to it? This mental act is the very basis of the withdrawal enjoined. How then can it be condemned? When Christ said “Judge not,” he did not forbid what his apostles afterwards enjoined. Is Christ against Paul? Those who deprecate a compliance with Paul’s rules for determining questions of fellowship virtually teach that he is. To such we must not listen. If any man contends for a course of action opposed to what Paul commands in his epistles, he puts himself into a position in which, by Paul’s command, we are to have no company with him. The Aberdeen answer to “judge not,” is no reply to the allegation that the Dowieites are unfaithful to the truth. This fact continues to be a reason for avoiding their fellowship. But it may be said that Paul’s directions on the subject of withdrawal, apply only to matters of conduct, and not to matters of doctrine. To this we would reply, that if it does not apply to matters of doctrine, the Aberdeen brethren themselves have committed the very crime of which they accuse the Christadelphians; they are guilty of schism. Why have they left the Presbyterians, the Baptists, the Morisonians, and the others? Are not all these, respectable, well-behaved people? plentiful, many of them, in gracious looks, kindly words, and good deeds? On what principle can they defend separation from them? Do not the orthodox communities believe the Bible, and profess the name of Christ? Why have they come away from them? Are they not guilty of having “judged” these “sincere” professors of religion? Yes, in a sense, they are; and they have done quite right, for they are commanded to judge of themselves what is right, and act accordingly. The attitude enjoined in reference to sinful deportment, is also incumbent toward doctrinal defection. It is true the passages quoted above refer mainly to behaviour; but the same duty is elsewhere inculcated in reference to those who obstruct or oppose, or deny the truth in any of its doctrinal elements. 2 John, 9, –10, is a forcible illustration of this: “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, (that is, the truth concerning Christ’s manifestation in the flesh,) receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed; FOR HE THAT BIDDETH HIM GOD SPEED, IS PARTAKER OF HIS EVIL DEEDS.” Paul indicates the same duty in several places. Speaking to the Galatians of certain “false brethren unawares brought in,” he says, “to whom we gave place by subjection - no, not for an hour.” This was in reference to the Judaistical believers of Paul’s time, who taught the necessity for being circumcised and observing the law. He says of them “A little leaven leaventh the whole lump. * * * I WOULD THEY WERE EVEN CUT OFF WHICH TROUBLE YOU.”—(Gal. 6:9, 12.) He says something to the same effect to the Corinthians: “Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. * * * PUT AWAY FROM AMONG YOURSELVES THAT 156 WICKED PERSON.”—(1 Cor. 5:6, 7, 11.) There is nothing more conspicuous in Paul’s letters to Timothy, than his jealousy of those in the ecclesia whose influence was detrimental to the truth. He says, “Hold fast the form of sound words which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. * * * The things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also. * * * * Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings, for they will increase unto more ungodliness, and their word will eat as doth a canker; of whom are Hymenœus and Philetus * * * having a form of godliness but denying the power; FROM SUCH TURN AWAY. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead silly women, laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambre withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth. * * Evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived, but continue thou IN THE THINGS WHICH THOU HAST LEARNED * * * Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long-suffering and doctrine, for the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine: but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears, and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables..”—(2 Tim. 1:13; 2:2, 15–17; 3:5–8; 13, 14; 4:2–4.) The same anxiety about preserving the truth in its purity from the corrupting influence of its loose professors, is manifest in his letter to Titus. Defining the qualifications of an elder, he says he must be a man “holding fast the faithful word, as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine to exhort and convince the gainsayers. For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped * * * A man that is an heretic, after the first and second admonition, reject.”—(Titus 1:9–11; 3:10.) To the same purpose are the words of Jude. “It was needful for me to write to you that ye should CONTEND EARNESTLY FOR THE FAITH WHICH WAS ONCE DELIVERED UNTO THE SAINTS; for there are certain men crept in unawares, &c.—(verses 3–4.) The Aberdeen brethren and the Dowieites themselves have shown their apprehension of these apostolic precepts by separating from the sects and denominations of the orthodox world. Upon what principle then can they object to the attitude of Christadelphians towards the Dowieites, on the supposition that the latter corrupt the truth? It is entirely beside the mark to raise the cry of schism; this is a false issue. It is not a question between schism and unity among those holding the truth; it is a question of truth versus error among those professing the former. The Dowieites are consistent in the position they maintain, supposing that their doctrines are the truth: but the Aberdeen brethren have not even that feeble plea. They believe the Dowieites to be wrong in many of their doctrines, and yet they advocate connection with them, although justifying separation from the sects. They do so on the ground that the Dowieites have a great part of the truth: but this is not a principle that can be scripturally defended. There is no authority for making one part of the truth less important than another. A reception of the truth on one point will not condone its rejection on another. Can we suppose that the Judaizers had no part of the truth? Did the Gnostics who denied that Christ had come in the flesh, reject the kingdom of God? Did not the unbelieving Jew hold the truth in great part? Yet Paul counselled withdrawal from them all. Nothing short of fidelity to the whole truth can be accepted as a safe policy. “The things concerning the kingdom of God,” and “those things that concern our Lord Jesus Christ,” in their scriptural amplitude must be the measure and standard of fellowship. Those who go for less than this must be left to themselves; in this they are not judged; they are only subjected to the action of another man’s conception of duty, and are left at perfect liberty to organize themselves on whatever they may conceive to be a scriptural basis. Paul’s injunctions on the subject of dissociation, from those whose influence is adverse to the truth, have their basis in common sense. The truth associates men in a common purpose to prosecute the mission to which it calls them as regards both themselves and others. Thus associated, they are an ecclesia, and their first duty is the preservation of the truth which has created them. Collectively, they are, in Paul’s words to Timothy, “the pillar and ground of the truth.” That is, in relation to the unbelieving 157 world, they are a pedestal upon which the truth rests, a prop or stay by which it is upheld. Apart from them, the world has little chance of ever knowing it. With them rests the work of inviting men’s attention to, and preserving it in a form in which it will be efficacious when laid hold of. If it becomes corrupted in their midst, they cease to be an ecclesia, and degenerate to a mere sect of errorists, of which there are many in the world. If they continue steadfast in the truth, rejecting the divers fables by which, in all ages, it has shewn such a liability to be nullified and destroyed, they are a beacon of light and a storehouse of life-giving manna by which men may be saved. This is evident from Paul’s words to Timothy personally: “Take heed unto thyself and unto the doctrine; continue in them; for, in doing this, THOU SHALT BOTH SAVE THYSELF AND THEM THAT HEAR THEE.”—(1 Tim. 4:16.) What is true of Timothy in the matter is true of everybody possessing the truth; for neither Paul nor Timothy’s power to save men lay in their appointment or their personal gifts or peculiarities, but in the truth of which they were the treasure-vessels. “Who is Paul,” enquires Paul himself, “and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed.”—(1 Cor. 3:5.) It is the gospel that is the power of God unto salvation, (Rom. 1:16, ) and not the men who may preach it. Hence, Paul rejoiced that in Rome, some preached the gospel, “of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to his bonds.” He says, “Whether in pretence or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea and will rejoice.”—(Phil. 1:18.) Now, by what means shall a community, based on the truth, preserve the truth in purity in its midst? Obviously by the means indicated by Paul and John, that is, by exacting of all who are in it an implicit adherence to the things, facts, principles, points, tenets, or whatever else they may be called, which go to make up the truth in its entirety, and by refusing to associate with those who oppose or refuse to endorse any of those elements. Some recommend, in opposition to this, the employment or argument with those who may be in error. As a preliminary process, common wisdom and humanity would dictate this course; but if an ecclesia is to go no further than argument, how could its existence continue? An effort would, doubtless, be put forth to reclaim those who are in error; but, where those efforts fail, dissociation by withdrawal is natural and inevitable. The ecclesia is not a place for argument; it is for fellowship in agreement. When a man requires to be argued with, his natural place is outside, and if he will not go outside, separation must be enforced by withdrawal on the part of the rest. The adoption of this policy may be oftentimes hurtful to amicable feeling, but this must not deter from faithfulness; Christ distinctly foretold that the result of his operations in the world would be to sow division, causing father to separate from son, mother from daughter, and the closest of friends to divide. Therefore, the occurrence of painful violations of friendship need not surprise, or cause uneasiness to, devout minds, as if something were happening contrary to the mind of Christ. Division is the inevitable concomitant of an uncompromising adherence to the truth. Peace purchased at the cost of compromise is doubly dangerous. The truth is the standard, and must alone be allowed to rule. All doubts ought to be solved in its favour. This is the principle of action to which study will ultimately lead. The act of separation is not an act of judgment against those from whom we may separate. It is an act of self-vindication; an act by which we discharge a duty and wash our hands of evil. The truth has gradually emerged from the fables in which for centuries it had been lost: and only an inexorable policy on the part of those receiving it will preserve it from a recurrence of the disaster which drove it from among men shortly after the days of the apostles. The dissent of the Dowieite professors of the truth from this policy, and their fellowship with and belief of some of the fables of the apostacy, is the cause of the division that now exists. This division must be a cause of deep sorrow on the part of those who love the truth, but the attitude of the individuals in question leaves no alternative to those who desire to be faithful: with the Dowieites rests all the responsibility. Regret at the breach of unity must never overbear the determination to maintain the truth. Should they see their way to the reception of the whole truth, and the repudiation of all the fables with which they parley, and the adoption of a faithful attitude, the present state of Dowieism would come to an end, and the cause of truth and brotherly love would receive a mighty acceleration, which would fill the hearts of the 158 brotherhood with joy. The question of brotherly love must be left alone till then, except among those who band themselves on the side of the truth. The truth first; brotherly love afterwards. “Pleas for unity” are out of place while the truth is being trifled with; they are dangerous; they are treacherous, however well meant. They will not be listened to by those who are set for the defence of the gospel. “But,” said the Aberdeen brethren, “how do we know that the Dowieites, as you term them, trifle with the truth? We have only your word for it?” A question like this provokes an exclamation of surprise. If men cannot see the false position of the Dowieites after all the evidence that has been brought forth from their own lips and the mouths of others, there must be in the men great dullness of spiritual apprehension, or some sympathy with the position taken by the Dowieites. It cannot be ignorance of what the Dowieites are, unless they have stopped their eyes and ears for a long time. A further evidence of their state will be found in the following correspondence which has lately taken place between the ecclesia in Edinburgh, and a brother who left the fellowship of the brethren through Dowieite sympathy:—EDINBURGH, June 2, 1867. The Obedience of Christ and His Brethren By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1877, p. 11-16 LETTERS on the Doctrine of God-manifestation, and Extracts from the most recent and advanced writings of the late JOHN THOMAS, M.D. Manchester: John Heywood. It is the opposite of refreshing to have to read or review this pamphlet. Yet duty calls for some notice of it. Some time ago, it was a mere-man assault on the truth that came under our notice in this form: now it is the opposite extreme. We regret both exceedingly—one as much as the other; for both obscure some portion of the truth, and both are fraught with mischievous practical consequences. When we have the choice, we choose peace, but we have no alternative when error advances to the attack, under whatever plea, to demolish any part of the noble structure of truth erected by the Spirit of God through the prophets and apostles of Israel. This is what this pamphlet does. It lays its axe at the root of the principle of voluntary obedience, on which all conceptions of sin and righteousness are founded. It declares that phrase to be an “unintelligible” one (page 64). It affirms that obedience is not a voluntary thing (63), and that even in the matter of our obedience of the truth, we are impelled by the Spirit of God (62). These conclusions evidence the incompetence of the treatment which arrives at them, and illustrate more than anything else could do, the falseness of the doctrine which requires them. That doctrine is that Christ had no will of his own. We have discussed this question before, and will not repeat the arguments, which may be found in the letter appearing in the Christadelphian, of March, 1876. Suffice it to say that it is a doctrine that obliterates one of the most precious truths concerning Christ to which we stand related as his brethren, viz., that “in that Christ himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted,” in consequence whereof, “we have not an high priest that cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted like as we are”—(Heb. 2:18; 4:15)—a doctrine to which Christ himself gave expression in the words, “In the world ye shall have tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” “He that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I grant that he sit with me on my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father on His throne.”—(John 16:33; Rev. 3:21). The claim to have “the most recent and advanced writings of Dr. Thomas,” on the side of the no-will theory, is not the least objectionable feature of the pamphlet. It is a claim that has no ground whatever in fact. It is curiously confuted in the pamphlet itself. Among the “extracts” put forward as among the Dr.’s “most recent and (so-called) advanced” utterances on the subject, is one from the Dr.’s article on the 159 “Baptism of the Spirit.” Now this, which is cited as a “most recent” utterance, is really older than Eureka in which are some of the things which the compilers of the pamphlet consider not “advanced.” It first appeared in the Herald of the Kingdom for 1861, from which it was re-produced in the Christadelphian. Consequently, it is fifteen years old, at least. If this was known to the pamphleteers, why is it quoted as if it had appeared in the Christadelphian for 1875 for the first time? If it was not known, what comes of their suggestion that this which was written in 1861 is more “advanced” than what the Dr. wrote afterwards in Eureka? This instance proves that the pamphleteers are wrong in their judgment of the matter; and commit an error in using what they call “the most recent and advanced writings of Dr. Thomas,” to discredit what he had (in other cases) previously written. If they are not able to see the harmony between the one part and the other, others are; and, therefore, the pamphleteers should modestly seek for the fault in themselves, instead of coming forward with the suggestion (by the implication of the phrase they use) that the writings of Dr. Thomas, as we have them in Elpis Israel, Eureka, Phanerosis, &c., are practically worthless, because neutralised by something which they call “more advanced” on a subject of first importance. The fault lies assuredly in their incapability to grapple with the bearings of a deep and farreaching subject, and not in the writings in which that subject is developed in its completeness. These writings cannot be divided into “advanced” and “more advanced,” as regards the doctrine they teach, though perhaps open to that classification as regards style of utterance (and that only in a mild degree). They are one in what they teach; the only difference is that the later writings bring out more in fulness and detail, and with greater maturity of speech, the principles enunciated in the earlier. A man’s style of expression naturally grows more technical and condensed the longer he writes on a subject; and these technical and condensed expressions judged apart from the first principles to which they stand related, may sometimes appear to carry a wrong idea to such as are unskilled. But they are not really inconsistent with the first principles of the subject. This is true in every branch of knowledge or human occupation. For instance, when a man says that stock is the most sensitive thing in the world, he appears to teach that the commercial fiction called “stock” is an entity with susceptibility to vital impression; an ignorant person, with a superstitious theory on the subject of stock, might claim his words as a confirmation of the theory, though the words themselves are in perfect harmony with the fact that stock literally is merely abstract value, represented in scrip, and was never intended to mean anything else. Dr. Thomas’s later expressions are more elliptical and tropical than his earlier style. His earlier style is more literal, precise and elementary as the exigencies of the case required. But he taught the same thing in both styles, though with more detail in the latter than in the former. Any man of discernment, understanding the truth thoroughly, can see this, and will resent all allusion to his “most recent and advanced writings,” when intended to suggest that he taught a different doctrine in them from what he did in the earlier. Dr. Thomas’s teaching is opposed to the doctrine of the pamphleteers. They see this with regard to his general writings (including Eureka), and they only infer from one or two later fragments, that he must have thought differently at last. But in these later fragments, he teaches nothing he did not teach before, and, therefore, they are precluded from inferring that he at last thought the voluntary obedience of Christ inconsistent with the manifestation of God in him, when plainly at first he did not think so. It would be more satisfactory were the pamphleteers to frankly say they think the Dr. was wrong than to try to make it out that the Dr. altered his mind. We personally know that there was no alteration with the Dr., notwithstanding surmises and assertions to the contrary. There are glimmerings in the pamphlet of a consciousness on the part of the compilers, that this is the fact, and that they are on ground that Dr. Thomas never occupied. Thus, one of them says (page 25): “The fact of the Dr. having arrived at a certain point ought not to deter us from adding to our faith knowledge . . . We have had the benefit of his experience and of his struggle for the truth. We have had 160 the advantage of his writings, and may say we begin where he left off. But are we to remain here? Surely not. If we can bring out the lustre of his own writings by shaking off that incubus of unscriptural ideas and expressions which have beclouded the minds of many, then we shall be progressing; but to stand still is dangerous, and to retrograde is worse.” This is a very plausible speech, but what does it mean? It either means that we have not attained to a knowledge of the truth, or that having done so, we are not to remain grounded and settled in it, but, like the Athenians, are to be always itching after some new thing. In either case, we beg respectfully but firmly to differ from the pamphleteers. Men may study astronomy or geology, and always have a boundless horizon of progress before them; but the case is different with the truth revealed in the Scriptures. It is definite, limited and accessible to those who study it. It may be known in the entirety in which it is revealed. It was revealed for this purpose; and those who know it know they know it, and can shew it—what it is and what it is not, and what is not it. In their daily readings, continued year after year, they become familiar with every nook and corner of the holy oracles, so that they do not require to read to find out what the truth is, but merely to refresh their memories from day to day. Their particular and studied policy is the opposite of the plausible speech. It is, having found the truth, to “remain where they are,” steadfast and immovable, established in the truth, stable and permanent, fastened securely to the apostolic moorings, unlike those who spread their sails to every breeze of doctrine that wafts over the restless deep. They believe, contrary to the plausible speech, that it is “dangerous” to do anything else than to “stand still” in the truth acquired. Growth in the truth is their aim, but this is a different affair from always discussing what the truth is. Growth in the truth is increased acquaintance with what they know, and not changing from one view to another. We deny the charge of “misrepresenting” the No-willist view. To make no mistake, we asked them to define it themselves, and published their definition, though not intending at the time to publish either it or our answer. The publication was due to circumstances explained at the time. Inability from dishealth, to produce other matter quick enough for the printer at the time was one cause. This cause, however, has had nothing to do with the judgment of our matter, as the pamphlet would hint. Health is now greatly re-established, as compared with that time; and with improved health comes a clearer and firmer conviction of the mischievous character of the new error. As to our “right” of action in the case, it is neither more nor less than that of the pamphleteers. Every man has a right, in the Lord’s absence, and indeed is bound to do what, in the exercise of a conscientious judgment, it seems to him he ought to do. We do no more than others claim the right to do; and if our opportunity is larger, we are not to be blamed for this. Dr. Thomas’s advice to the Chicago friends, is not applicable to the present case. That advice was based on the supposition that the truth was received though not understood: in this case it is opposed. Besides, it was not “on this very question.” No one in the Chicago case ever denied Christ’s voluntary obedience. Dr. Thomas was the last man to counsel peace at the expense of the truth. The letter commencing on page 43, which we returned to the writer for separate publication, was too long (for the character of it), to appear in the Christadelphian. It is a maze or words without understanding, notwithstanding a show of wisdom. Nevertheless, we intended—as we informed the writer—to publish a summary of its arguments, with the notice they might require. We did not absolutely decline its insertion, as our letter to the writer bears witness. Any summary of it is now rendered unnecessary by its pamphlet publication. Indeed very little notice of it at all is called for. Like his co-pamphleteer, he says he does not make the Dr. a finality, and refers to him as “a dear old man,” as to which we have simply to say that the Dr. as a “dear old man” is nothing to us if he has not developed the truth. We know no man after the flesh. If Dr. Thomas has developed the truth, he has developed a finality, because the truth is a finality; and that he has done this we know, because it is a matter admitting of knowledge. If others are uncertain, let them be uncertain. We will not join them in sapping the foundations of confidence. 161 The writer attempts to place us in contradiction to ourselves because, in opposing a mere-man view of the work of Christ, we stated, some years ago, that “God did the work himself and Christ was the form of it;” and afterwards stated in the letter reproduced in the pamphlet, that “we see great objection to defining Christ as merely a form of the Father’s work.” The attempt to make out a contradiction here, is only a proof of the want of discrimination which is visible throughout the pamphlet in its treatment of Scripture statements. A form and a form merely are two different things, as “a man” and “a man merely” are different. We may believe that Christ was a man without holding, with some that he was a man merely: so it is not inconsistent with believing that he was the form of God’s work to object to his being described as such merely, to the exclusion of his own part in it. No amount of italics and small capitals will make out a contradiction where none exists. The allusion to the necessity for “good memory” is a peace of raillery which we must endure, in the confidence that our statements are true. So also is the reference to the publication of certain articles, disavowed not “last year,” as the writer inaccurately states, but six and a half years ago; as soon in fact as we perceived what was not visible immediately to an overworked and confidence-placing mood—that though good in many points, their argument excluded the divine aspect of the work of Christ, in styling him “a mere man.” Our disclaimer appeared in the Christadelphian in 1870. To make use of these articles under such circumstances, in support of a charge of contradiction shows how groundless the charge is. As regards the writer’s quotation of prophetic testimonies concerning God’s work by Christ in the earth, it has simply to be said that he does not, in his application of them, allow room for the facts of the case. God works, but how? He brought Israel out of Egypt, but so it is testified did Moses. Is there, therefore, a contradiction? Or is Moses God? God gave the law, yet it is testified Moses gave it.—(John 7:19.) It is styled “the law of Moses;” and also “the law of the Lord.”—(Luke 2:39.) Are we to say that Moses of the one testimony is the “Lord” of the other? There would be just as much force in this reasoning as in some of the reasoning of the letter on certain passages placed in juxtaposition. God did the work by Moses, and Moses did his part; and, in the second case, though in a higher form, God does the work by Christ, and Christ does his part. It does not prove that he contributed no part to the work because that work in its entirety is Jehovah’s work. We admit there is a great difference between Moses and Jesus; but as regards God’s relation to their work (Moses and the prophet “like unto him”), the idea expressed by the language is the same. God is the initiator, the authoriser, the helper, and comprehensively the doer; for apart from His initiation, authority and help, it would not have been done; but the mistake lies in using these comprehensive descriptions to exclude the mode in which God does the work. This is what those do who say that because God did the work of Christ, therefore the separate will of the man Christ Jesus had no part in the doing of it. They might just as well say that because God gives us life and health and all things, therefore we have no part to perform in the securing of those blessings. A man orders a house to be built and pays for it. He tells his friends he built the house; shall we, therefore, say he meant that his actual hand put the bricks together? This would be as reasonable as the conclusion, that because Jehovah says he will be, and do so and so, therefore this being and doing excludes the instrumentality by which he accomplishes His work. We admit the case is not parallel, but it bears on the understanding of language. Christ is Jehovah’s work and Jehovah’s manifestation: and the connection between Christ and Jehovah was much more direct than between Him and any other of His works, or than between any man and any work man may do; but at the same time, we must not exclude God’s own testimony by the apostles as to the mode in which the work and the manifestation were accomplished. A man in the divine stamp—the Son of God—was begotten, brought up, tried, tempted in all points like as we are (Heb. 4:15), but obedient in all points as no man ever was; who taught us to regard his Father as ours (John 20:17); who encouraged us to overcome as he had done (Rom. 3:21); and who gave us an example of condescension to poverty, notwithstanding the riches that were his as the Son of God and coming ruler and head of all mankind.—(2 Cor. 8:9.) Such a man was the work of God; but one of the highest features of it is the loving, intelligent and voluntary compliance with what the 162 Father required of him: “He was faithful to Him that appointed him, as Moses was” (Heb. 3:2): a compliance doubtless which his inherited moral qualities, as the Son of God, qualified him to render, and without which he never could have rendered it, but which at the same time he rendered by the exercise of a free individual volition, regulated by intelligence and faith, as exemplified in these two cases:— ”Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father and He shall presently give more than twelve legions of angels? But how then shall the Scriptures be fulfilled?” (Matt. 26:53.) “For the joy set before him, he endured the cross, despising the shame.”—(Heb. 12:2.) Morally, he was the manifestation of God; not by characterless impulse from God but by the evolution of the Divine character within him, in harmony with the law of all character, which requires individual volition as its basis. After his baptism at the Jordan, when the Spirit abode upon the proved and approved Son, and spoke words and did works which the Son said he did not and could not do of himself (John 5:30; 8:28; 14:10), Jehovah’s manifestation in the midst of Israel was complete—as complete as it could be through a medium of flesh and blood; but there was no obliteration even then of the obedient man Christ Jesus, who was tempted in all points like as we are. The Father, by the Spirit, dwelt in the Son, but the Son was still the Son, as recognised in the baptismal formula prescribed by the apostles. It was a unity without confusion, which cannot be said of the idea presented by the No will theory, which requires them to call the Spirit the Son, and thereby obliterates one of the three elements of the mystery of godliness. The word has only to be “rightly divided” to bring all parts of the subject into harmony. This must be done. It is not by laying stress on one set of testimonies or one phase of a subject that the truth is to be established. This is a mode of treatment indeed that is more likely to lead to error than any other, unless it be the mistake of giving a mathematical precision to elliptical forms of speech, which we see is done in this pamphlet. By this mistake the No-will theory is extended to every man, and the written word logically displaced from its position as the means of our enlightenment. The words of Paul, “God worketh in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure,” are made to yield the following conclusion: “The death of the will of the flesh (is) caused by the Spirit of God working in us to will and to do that which is right. Apart from the operation of the Spirit of God, our mind would be carnal and fleshly, and, therefore, enmity against God; but under the influence of the Spirit, the old man dies, a new mind takes possession of our flesh, and a new will is produced, manifesting itself through the flesh.” As this is written in reply to those who in the context are made to object to the idea of the will being “chained or coerced,” and who are thereby said to “betray great ignorance,” it follows that the idea expressed is the orthodox one, which has so completely nullified the Scriptures and superseded their study, viz., that the Spirit of God acts directly and physically on the minds of men, in order to enable them to be obedient. This idea cannot be too strongly reprobated, as containing the seeds of spiritual decay and death. The Spirit of God, as a moral power, does not come to us directly, nor at all as a physical or constraining power. It comes to us in the ideas which it has embodied in the Word, and it is only in proportion as these ideas obtain an abiding place in our minds (by the constant companionship of the Word) that we become spiritually-minded. The gospel is the power of God by which this work of purification is done, and the gospel is not an abstract “influence,” but a set of ideas which have power to influence intelligence. The Spirit was with the apostles and with the first generation of believers as it is not with us; but their possession of the Spirit was not the means of their salvation, but only the means of attesting and building up the faith by which that salvation was to be secured. When Paul said God worked in them, it was by way of contrast to the system of human thought which prevailed in Greek society, of which Philippi, to which the words were sent, was a centre. According to this system of thought, the beatification of a future state was to be achieved by “heroic” human effort, like the honours of the public games. Paul’s doctrine was that man was without hope, and could do nothing for himself till God, in His kindness, put it in their power, coming near to them with the gospel and its invitation. This mercy was defined by the brethren at Jerusalem as God “granting to the Gentiles repentance unto life eternal.” Their salvation, therefore, was a matter of God working in them, and not they working by themselves; 163 but the mode of His working—the mode by which the willing and the doing of his good pleasure was generated in them, was by the word of the truth of the gospel, instructing them what to do. So far from superseding the exercise of their own will in relation to what was revealed to them, Paul refers to this working of God in them as an encouragement to their own diligent performance: “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God that worketh,” &c. Construed as the No-will theory construes this, there is no logic or sense in it, but confusion, which does not belong to the word or work of God, but to those who mar it by incompetent handling. Free-will is the basis of the whole work of God with man. We cannot better illustrate this than by quoting the following remarks from Dr. Thomas:— “Would it have been to the glory of God if He had made a mere machine? had He made inexorable necessity the law of His nature which he must yield to as the tides to the moon or the earth to the sun? No reasonable man would affirm this. The principle laid down in the Scriptures is that MAN HONOURS GOD IN BELIEVING HIS WORD AND OBEYING HIS L AWS. There is no other way in which men can honour their Creator. This honour, however, consists not in a mechanical obedience; in mere action without intelligence and volition, such as matter yields to the natural laws; but in an enlightened, hearty, and voluntary obedience, while the individual possesses the power not to obey if he think best. There is no honour or glory to God as a moral being in the falling of a stone towards the earth’s centre. The stone obeys the law of gravitation involuntarily. The obedience of man would have been similar had God created and placed him under a physical law, which should have necessitated his movements, as gravitation doth the stone. Does a man feel honoured or glorified by the compulsory obedience of a slave? Certainly not; and for the simple reason that it is involuntary or forced. But let a man by his excellencies command the willing service of free-men—of men who can do their own will and pleasure, yet voluntarily obey him, and if he required it, are prepared to sacrifice their lives, fortunes, and estates, and all for the love they bear him; would not such a man esteem himself honoured and glorified in the highest degree by such signal conformity to his will? Unquestionably; and such is the honour and glory which God requires of men. Had he required a necessitated obedience, he would have secured his purpose effectually, at once filling the earth with a population of adults, so intellectually organised as to be incapable of a will adverse to His own—who should have obeyed Him as wheels do the piston-rod and steam by which they are moved—the mere automata of a miraculous creation. But, saith an objector, this principle of the enlightened voluntary obedience of a free agent is incompatible with benevolence; it would have prevented all the misery and suffering which have afflicted the world, if the globe had been filled at once with a sufficient number of inhabitants who should all of them have been created perfect. If the character of the all-wise were constituted of one attribute only, this might have been the case. But God is the sovereign of the universe as well as kind and merciful, and all his intelligent creatures are bound to be in harmony with His name. He might have operated on the objector’s principle had it pleased Him, but it did not, for He has pursued the directly opposite course. . . . He made man a reasonable creature and capable of being acted on by motive, either for weal or woe. He placed him under a law which required belief of God’s word and obedience. He could obey or disobey as he pleased; he was free to stand or free to fall. He disbelieved God’s word; he believed a lie and sinned. Here was voluntary disobedience. Hence the opposite to this is made the principle of life, by belief of whatsoever God saith, and voluntary obedience to His law. This is the principle to which the world is reprobate; and to a conformity with which all men are invited and urged by the motives presented in the Scriptures.”—From Elpis Israel, p. 157, as re-issued by Dr. Thomas in 1866, in a fourth edition, to which the following remark, among others, was prefaced: “For the first time since correcting the proof of the first edition in 1849, he (the author) has read the work again . . It was reasonable to suppose that a longer and maturer study of “the Word” might render him dissatisfied with 164 much originally written. . . but, in reviewing the original, the author was agreeably surprised on finding he had so few corrections to make.” The No-will theory contains the germs of dissolution in relation to all these truths. For this reason it is to be resisted strenuously, however much its advocates may disclaim the results that belong to it. The believers of error are sometimes unconscious of the results that belong to their error; but things work out their own logic at last in spite of the best intentions. It is, therefore, the beginnings of things that are to be watched. The No-will theory is a beginning of mischief in which we refuse to be implicated. The consequences of refusal are not our concern or care. Divisions and forsakings we hate and avoid. We shall rejoice if a retreat on the part of the pamphleteers from the position they have taken up, permit of a termination of those that have taken place, as well as render an extension of them unnecessary. But, if not, whatever our personal regrets and disappointments, when the truth or its precepts are at stake, we can only choose one course. We can only resign ourselves to whatever consequences come from a refusal to consent to the corruption of the faith once for all delivered to the saints. Answers to Correspondents (“If a brother sin” – In Doctrine or Practice) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1893, p. 344 J. J. (S.)—The rule laid down by Christ for the treatment of personal offences (Matt. 18:15–17) is doubtless applicable to sins of every description. That it is applicable to personal misunderstandings, no one questions; but some who recognize this stand back in a case of sin which they may hear of in a brother, but which does not affect them in any personal way. This is inconsistent with the other commandments which prescribe a kindly care of our brothers in everything. Sin of any kind on the part of a brother (doctrinal, practical, or what not) is truly a sin against all his brethren, who are necessarily more or less injured by what he wrongfully does; but all his brethren may not know of it. It is the part of those who do know to take the course that Jesus prescribes; not to talk to others of it (which is itself a sin), but, observing silence to all others concerning the matter, to go direct to the brother concerned and discuss the matter with him alone. Nothing is so likely to remove the evil as this course, provided it is done in the way the law of Christ prescribes: “In the spirit of meekness, considering thyself lest thou also be tempted” (Gal. 6:1). Intelligence (Ecclesial Notes) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1887, p. 470-472 A loose basis of fellowship is convenient, and easily becomes popular with inexperienced believers or obtuse believers of long standing. It is agreeable to human feeling, but it is out of harmony with the apostolic standard which demands “the whole counsel of God” and “the unity of the faith.” The loose basis admits of a large co-operation with men and a little more of the friendship of this world than is possible with those who accept the strangership-with-God which the truth always brings with it where it is earnestly and fully received. Of course, it is defended as a scriptural thing; no man would admit his way to be unscriptural; but it may be very unscriptural for all that. A man thinks he takes very scriptural ground when he says he is content with what Paul required:—“Jesus Christ and him crucified.” But his misuse of the words he quotes becomes manifest when he attempts to answer very obvious questions. Does he mean that he would not require a belief in Christ’s resurrection? Does he mean that he would 165 ignore the question of whose son Christ is? Does he mean that he would leave out baptism and the condemnation that has come on all men through Adam? Does he really mean that he would require no more as a basis of fellowship in the truth than a belief that there was such a person as Christ and that he was crucified? I would probably turn out that he meant no such thing. It would probably turn out that he would require all that is meant and involved in these terms. “Jesus Christ and him crucified” is a brief periphrasis of “the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ”; and was never intended as an indication of how little of the truth would do, but as a definition of the whole truth in contrast with the wisdom of the Greeks which Paul determinedly ignored in his intercourse with believers. In every other attempt by the quotation of phrases, to excuse a loose and limited basis of fellowship, the same fallacy will be apparent. The truth is a complete thing. It is made up of coherent parts; and any consent to ignore any of the parts is unfaithfulness to the whole, and must inevitably lead, as it always has done, to first the gradual corruption and then the ultimate surrender of the whole. There is no safe, or logical or Scriptural position but that of requiring the whole truth in its integrity. To say it is a sufficient basis of fellowship if the mortality of man is admitted and the Kingdom of God allowed—whether a man know God or not, or understand His Son or not, or know of his Spirit or not, or receive the commandments or not, or believe in the priesthood of Christ or not, or in his appointment as judge for life or death at his coming or not, or in the nature of the devil he came to destroy or not, is to show either one of two things—either that there lacks capacity to grasp the commonest issues of divine truth or that there is a predominant susceptibility to human sentiments and friendships and conveniences. We have long since washed our hands of such unfaithfulness to the truth of God: and we will not now consent to those who say there never ought to have been such a hand-washing (though they took part in it). Dowieism was rewelcomed by Renunciationism when Renunciationists broke away from the restraints of the truth. And partial inspirationism is repeating the same evil course. Friends of the truth have need of the adamant face and brazen forehead enjoined on Ezekiel. It is an unpleasant necessity but must be accepted if the truth is not to slide back once more into the slough of world-wide corruption from which it has been fished up and washed in these latter-days. Antagonism, if allied to ardour and acerbity, is liable to be unfair without intending it, perhaps. It indulges in those euphemistic and ambiguous allegations in which every faction, in whatever question, vents its heat against those who differ from it. The inexperienced or the undiscerning are liable to be led away by these ex parte dogmatisms. They do not enquire into the substance of the high sounding generality, which when brought to the test of precise definition, collapses like an air-blown bag under a juvenile blow. What is the “popery” that some cry out about but inflexible insistance on the right—with courtesy where possible, but always with inflexibility? Would the out-criers do less than insist on the right? Do they give in to the wrong? Oh no! say they, but you are not the judge of the right. Who is? Is it you? Suppose they say, “no one,” what then? Is there no right? Oh yes, they may say; but it is for each man to judge for himself. Very good: “each man”? And we as well? Are we not to judge for ourselves? Must we accept their judgment? Must we make “popes” of them? Our friends are not reasonable with us. We judge for ourselves alone in all matters of faith and practice. We impose our judgment on no one. If we cannot agree with the critics, we are sorry. If others agree with us, we ask in vain for the hundreth time, why are we to be charged with this as a crime? And then this “unrighteous action”—what was it? Merely throwing aside a human arrangement when it no longer answered the divine ends for which we all agreed to it. A ship is good when she is sound, but if she gets scuttled by pirate or mutinous crew, the sane passengers will not be very leisurely about getting into the boat. A house rented from the landlord will be occupied by a tenant so long as it is in a state that answers the objects of the tenancy: but if bad drainage that cannot be cured shew itself, or 166 infectious disease adheres to the locality, or the structure begins to give way all over from the dry rot, the sane tenant will clear out without much formality. Our paper constitution was powerless against the organised perfidy of two regularly published papers with a phalanx of secret sympathisers. There was nothing left but to put aside the paper constitution. It was a human expediency. There was nothing divine in it when it ceased to be useful. It was necessary to adopt measures that would make manifest to each other those who were sworn to maintain the oracles of divine truth against the secret unfaithfulness that had just become public and which was carrying all before it like a flood. Those who could not diagnose the situation were naturally taken by surprise, and putting a bit of this and a bit of that together in an irrelevant manner, they made an evil matter of it. Faithful men enquired and learned to read the matter correctly and were glad of an opportunity of showing themselves unambiguously on God’s side. The “unrighteous action” will be seen in a totally different character when things on earth come to be exhibited in a divine light, as they will shortly. What seems unrighteous action to men, may be, and often is, righteous action in the sight of God. God sees differently from men. Actions promted with a view to Him, have always in the world’s history appeared shocking in the eyes of those who cannot rise above the views, impressions and surroundings of the moment. Our appeal is to another day. Answers to Correspondents (Open Sin) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1898, p.158 P. C.—When a brother or sister falls into open sin (“known and read of all men”), an ecclesia is bound in an open manner to signify its reprobation of the offence, to prevent the taunt arising among “those without” that iniquity is fellowshipped with impunity. As Paul says, “Them that sin, rebuke before all, that others also may fear” (1 Tim 5:20). What course should be pursued in the matter? If the brother or sister offending is callous and indifferent on the subject, there is only one course, and that is, the public repudiation of their company. But if they are sincerely repentant, it is the duty of the ecclesia to receive them and help them, at the same time vindicating the ecclesia’s regard for righteousness, and the sullied honour of Christ, by subjecting their action to some open mark of disavowal. This is best done by asking them to refrain for a time from the breaking of bread, while not absenting themselves from the meetings. In this, there is an exhibition of humble submission on the part of the offender which is a guarantee of the genuineness of his sorrow; and on the part of the ecclesia, an effective washing of their hands of all complicity with his transgression. We have no direction on the subject, but this seems the only remedy in our hands at the present time. It has nothing to do with judicial action. The friends of Christ are not allowed, in the present state, to employ coercive measures, in any form. The execution of the judgment written is a prerogative in reserve for such only as come through the present probation, with divine approval. Meanwhile, we are allowed to use the defensive weapon of non-association where there is non-compliance with the precepts of Christ. “Excommunication” is an ordinance of the apostasy; ecclesial withdrawal is of apostolic prescription. 167 Answers to Correspondents (Rifle Corps Membership and Electioneering) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1872, p. 186-187 Is it right to break bread with a brother who is a member of a volunteer corps and a partaker with them in all their worldly pursuits; or with a brother who canvasses for votes for a Member of Parliament?—H.D. ANSWER.—Paul commands withdrawal from every brother obeying not the word he wrote, by 2 Thess. His word in that epistle includes an exhortation to the Thessalonians, and, therefore, to all believers, to all time till the Lord changes it, that they “stand fast and hold to traditions which they had been taught, whether by word or by Paul’s epistle.”—(2:15.) Hence the duty of withdrawal applies to every case involving the deliberate and unrepentant disobedience of any of the apostolic precepts. Is a voluntary partnership with the world in the study of the art of war consistent with obedience to these precepts, which are indeed and in truth, the precepts of Christ? (for he said, “He that heareth you heareth me.”) No one having knowledge of what those precepts are will answer in the affirmative. Those precepts require of us to “keep ourselves unspotted from the world” (Jas. 1:27): to be not conformed to it, but transformed in the renewing in our minds (Rom. 12:2), to mind not earthly things (Col. 3:2), to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness.—(Eph. 5:11). The world, we are told, lieth in wickedness (1 John 5:19), and that we cannot be friends of God and friends of the world too.—(James 4:4.) How can a man obey these precepts and be a member of a volunteer corps? How can he obey the command which forbids us to take the sword?—(Matt. 26:52; Rev. 13:10.) It is impossible. The conclusion follows that a professor in such a position has put himself beyond the pale of the fellowship of his brethren. As to electioneering, it is only a shade less bad. It is the same business in another form. A brother may without compromise, supply paper, or printing, or locomotion to parties engaged in it, on the principle laid down last month, in answer to the bookselling difficulty; (as he may supply clothing, food, implements, &c., at a price, to soldiers): but to sell himself he has no power, and if faithful, less inclination. He must keep himself virgin to the Lord, “denying all ungodliness and worldly lusts, live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world, looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearance of our Great God and Saviour Jesus Christ.” J. L. E. will please accept the foregoing remarks in answer to his enquiry on the subject of fellowship with drunkards. Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 223 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1891, p. 414-415 (Excerpt) How thankful we ought to be for an unchained Bible, and for liberty to “keep the Commandments of God and hold the testimony of Jesus Christ” which we read therein. Does the ground of thankfulness stop here? Far from it. This is a land of Bibles without being a land of light. Multitudes have no knowledge of it, though it is in their houses, or, at least, within their reach. Other multitudes know it a little without having any care for it. Others know and appreciate, but do not understand. Some understand a little without much thoroughness of knowledge or appreciation. If in any degree, we know, understand and love this emancipated and freely circulated book of God, have we not in this one of the 168 greatest causes for gratitude? Here, also, let us take care how we think about it. Let us not make the mistake of supposing it is owing to any discernment or deservings we possess above our neighbours. If we have attained to the enviable position of understanding the most wonderful and most precious book under the sun, it is the result of circumstances with the ordering of which we had nothing to do. If God had not raised up in this century such a man as Dr. Thomas, our generation would have been stumbling on in the inherited fogs which have entirely hidden the teaching of the Bible from view, while glorifying the Bible itself in a certain sentimental way. It does not appear that the understanding of the Bible has been attained in any other channel. There is a deal of writing about the Bible, and a deal of smattering in connection with separate and scattered points involved in Bible things; but where, outside of his work in our day, is to be found that complete mastery of the whole Scriptures, from Genesis to Revelations, which renders the work of God through Israel from the beginning a consistent, connected, and progressives thing, which not only does not require the help of human philosophy, but which cannot endure the admixture of it without being spoiled? We know not its like in any current system or movement, or in any library treasures, ancient or modern, or in the hands of any teacher or institution of modern life anywhere. If others know of it, we should be delighted to be introduced—with the liberty, however, of thorough independent inspection. We know enough of shams and echoes and abortions to make us very chary. We have to be thankful, then, that God has not only given us an unchained Bible, with liberty to read and follow it, but that in the Providentially-regulated work of Dr. Thomas, He has removed the mountains of tradition and fable which had gathered over it, and made it possible for us to attain an understanding of it. We have to be thankful also that we have been brought into contact with that work. We might have remained outside the circle of it. We might never have heard of it. We might have wandered on in the endless bogs of pulpit theology, to drown in the turbid waters of worldliness, or perish in the brainsoftening malaria of benighted pietism, or sink in the quagmires of agnosticism, or dash our brains out at the foot of the precipices of atheism. If we have been brought into saving relation with the hope of Israel, it has been the result of some apparently trivial circumstance of personal experience. We have met a friend, or seen a book, or heard a conversation, or attended a lecture. The trivial circumstance has ended in our complete enlightment. Ought not this to excite our gratitude? Answers to Correspondents By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1897, p. 404 A. F. C.—Jesus tolerated Judas because Judas outwardly conformed to the precepts of righteousness during the three years and a half that he sustained the part of “one of the twelve.” Jesus knew him, but did not act on a knowledge that could not have been appreciated by either Judas or the other disciples. He waited till Judas should reveal himself, which is the divine procedure with us all. Though a thief, he perpetrated his embezzlements under pious pretences: “Ought not this ointment to have been sold for three hundred pence and given to the poor?” If Jesus had expelled him from the apostolic body before his real character was manifest, it would have caused confusion, besides removing a needed instrument for the hour of betrayal. 169 Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 81 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1877, p. 65-66 (Excerpt) In the case of believers in Christ, the goodness is of a very different nature. They are called to the fellowship of the Father, and that fellowship an eternal fellowship, and involving a participation in His incorruptibility and deathlessness. Now, considering who they are, members of a race condemned for sin at the start, and guilty each one of “many offences,” and considering the exalted nature of the privilege of friendship and companionship with God, it is no marvel that a special and adequate form of brokenheartedness and fear should be provided for them. God is great and holy; and He receives not sinners to his eternal society without the utmost recognition on their part of His position of prerogative and their position of no claim—yea worse, deserving death. Hence, his requirement of the shedding of blood, as the basis of propitiation. But we are too far astray for Him to accept even this at our hands. Therefore, in the Son of Mary—His own Son—He gives us one in whom He will accept it, and in whom He has accepted it, for “He, by His own blood, entered once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption (“for us,” is not in the original, and is excluded by the “voice” of the verb—the middle— which concentrates the application on himself). Yet this Son of Mary and Son of God, was one of the sufferers from the evil that sin has brought into the world, though without sin as regards his character. His mission as the propitiation required this combination in harmony with the principle to be exemplified in his death, viz., the declaration of the righteousness of God as the basis of His forbearance in the remission of our sins (Rom. 3:25, 26). In the righteous Son of David, the law of sin and death was destroyed by death and resurrection, and now in Him is “the law of the spirit of life” established in harmony with the indispensable requirement of God’s supremacy and righteousness. In Him now is life for all who will come unto God by Him, morally participating in His crucifixion, and sharing His death in the act of baptism. God will grant forgiveness to all who come to Him in the way appointed. It is no case of substitution or debt-paying which would obscure the righteousness and the goodness of God. It is a case of God approaching us in kindness, and giving us, by His own manipulation, one from among ourselves in whom His “law is magnified and made honourable”—(Isa. 42:21), that by His blood we may be washed from our sins, in the sense of being forgiven unto life eternal for His sake; and that of His righteousness we may partake in the assumption of His name. The fact that sacrifice is required in order to life eternal is, therefore, not inconsistent with the goodness which God showed to the Ninevites without sacrifice. It is rather the form which His goodness takes in a higher matter, and required by the greater highness of the matter. It is the same goodness manifested in both cases. It is the same God who shines in all parts of the Bible. “What shall we say then to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not His own Son, but freely gave Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth—who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died; yea, rather that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? . . . I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord”—(Rom. 8:31–39). There is one thing, and one thing only, can separate us from this love. It is specified in the words of Isaiah to Israel: “Your iniquities have separated between you and your God.” God will have no regard for those who forget Him or neglect His commandments: those who sink into a state of self-service, who live 170 exclusively for their own comfort and well-being, who let God slip from their practical recognitions; His word from their studies; His honour from their concern; His commandments from their lives, will awake to find that where life and death, and men and angels, and heaven and earth, were powerless to interpose an obstacle between them and the friendly regard of the Almighty, their own folly has done it without further remedy. God is love; but our God is also a consuming fire. He will not be mocked; He will not be put off with the fag-ends of our service. He demands the whole heart and the whole life; and he is not his own friend who refuses the call: for there will come a time when the man who has served himself will find he has served a master who can only pay him at last with tribulation, and anguish, and death; while the man who obeys the Divine call will at the same period discover that in making God his portion, he has secured the joyful eternal inheritance of all things. Fellowship and Forbearance By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1897, p. 171-174 A LOVED writer in the Christadelphian Adocate (a monthly magazine, published by Bro. Williams, at Waterloo, Iowa, U.S.A.), has the following remarks in disparagement of hasty “withdrawals from fellowship.” The article as a whole is so beautiful in its exhibition of the divine character, that we gladly give it a place in the Christadelphian. Wherein it may appear to require qualification we indicate in remarks at the end. THE ARTICLE The ecclesia is the house of God, the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Tim. 2:15), the sanctuary and the true tabernacle, which the Lord has pitched and not man (Heb. 8:2). It is God’s building (1 Cor. 3:9). He has reared it in the midst of a waste, howling wilderness of unenlightened humanity, in a desert where death holds supreme sway on every side. It is on a journey toward the Promised Land. Its constituent elements are men and women in the flesh, all, more or less, instructed in the truth of God, all, more or less, endeavouring to perform the will of their Father, who has called them out of the surrounding darkness in which they were born, into the glorious light of his salvation, all, more or less, failing, through the infirmity of the sinful nature they have inherited from Adam, to keep the commandments of God. Such is the ecclesia during its wilderness probation, its portable, tabernacle phase. A community of men and women enlightened in the purpose of God, having in their midst faith hope and charity, in living manifestation, although there may be associated with them those who are weak or sickly, or even asleep, is a divine institution, ordered and appointed of God—in fact the only organisation at present upon the earth with which the Eternal Jehovah is interested. They are his sons and daughters and he is their Father, and Christ their elder brother and high priest. To be admitted into such a community is no light matter. No man can of himself enter; he must be called to the membership by God. To turn one’s back upon an ecclesia of the living God is a step so grave and momentous that it is not to be taken, unless the case is clear beyond peradventure that all spiritual life has departed from it, that it has openly and in a most flagrant manner time and again repudiated the doctrines and commandments of Christ. An ecclesia may become as corrupt as that of Sardis, which had a name to live only, but was dead, yet, for the “few names” it may contain who “have not defiled their garments,” it is to be carefully considered. Jehovah would have spared Sodom, a great city, and with it the cities of the plain, had there been found only ten righteous men in it; how much greater consideration he bestows upon a congregation of men and women who hear his name, even although they offend in many things, is seen in his dealings with Israel—long-suffering, patient, tender, kind—and in those words of Christ to the ecclesia at Sardis. 171 To understand the almost inexhaustible patience and carefulness one must have for an ecclesia let him read the epistles of Paul to the ecclesia at Corinth. When he penned these two remarkable letters the condition of affairs among them was so grievous, so full of trouble and bitterness, so antagonistic in many instances to the precepts of Christ, that many brethren, now-a-day, did such a state of things exist in the ecclesia of which they were members, would consider themselves justified in remaining away from the meetings to commemorate the death of Christ, and would do so having taken personal offence at the matter, or they would withdraw themselves and form a separate meeting. Paul’s attitude to the ecclesia in Corinth is a guide for us. Turbulent and factious as the ecclesia had become, yet Paul writes them, “Ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building” (1 Cor. 3:9), and in his salutation he sends them “grace and peace from God and from the Lord Jesus Christ,” and remembers with thankfulness their good parts and prays for them that they “come behind in no gift, waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Cor. 1:7, 8). From Paul’s letters we learn that the ecclesia in Corinth was divided into four distinct parties, each one claiming to be right in the name of its chosen head. One claimed Paul, another Apollos, a third Cephas, while a fourth declared themselves to be of Christ, and they, evidently, were the smallest and least influential in the meeting. The apostle expostulates with them in the effort to induce them to act in accordance with the truth. “Now, I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” They had in active operation among them, convulsing the ecclesia daily, “envying, strife, and division” (1 Cor. 3:3). They were proud and arrogant (1 Cor. 4:6, 7, 8), they permitted a notorious act of fornication to pass unrebuked, and even condoned it (1 Cor. 5:1, 2). They wronged one another and went to law one against another and that before the unjust (1 Cor. 6:1, 6–8.) They maintained in some instances an open connection with the idolatry which they had left when they became Christ’s (1 Cor. 8:7–10, 14); they turned the Lord’s Supper into a season of feasting and debauchery (1 Cor. 11:21, 22); “some among them said there was no resurrection of the dead,” even although the resurrection of Jesus was the case in question (1 Cor. 15:12–20.) Notwithstanding these grievous offences against Christ, Paul, Christ’s minister, did not withdraw himself from them. He did not rail against them. On the contrary, his letter, in which he prefers these serious charges, involving both doctrine and walk, is full of anxious, loving care, solicitation, and without presumption. He pleads with them in all wisdom, seeking their reclamation from the errors. He praises them fully whenever he gets the opportunity, and when he learns that his first letter has produced a change in them of a godly sort, he sends them a second in which he declares them his “epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men; forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God.” No comment is required here to make manifest the true way to act when an ecclesia is involved in the question of fellowship. It is the house of God, and where it has only two or three who come together in the name of Christ to commemorate the great love wherewith he has loved his friends, there Christ has said he would be present, and although anger, strife, envy, and bitterness fill the minds of those who may have also come to keep the feast, yet their feeling and attitude cannot affect those who worship God in spirit and in truth. The “wood, straw, hay and stubble” of an ecclesia lie for the present in intimate relationship and connection with its “gold, silver and precious stones” elements, and the day of Christ alone will make their true characters manifest. So, says Paul, “Judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts, and then shall every man have praise of God” (1 Cor. 4:5). When Moses raised in the wilderness the tabernacle of the congregation, he placed within the veil the ark of the covenant, on which he put the Mercy Seat, and over it the Cherubim of Glory; and the 172 angel spake these words to him: “And there will I meet with thee, and there will I commune with thee from above the Mercy Seat, and from between the Cherubims” (Exod. 25:22). Christ is our Mercy Seat, and between the Cherubims of glory he communes with us, when we come to meet with him in our ecclesial capacity, the antitypical tabernacle of the congregation. Our fellowship is with him; we go to meet with him to our accustomed place Sunday after Sunday. We do not go because brother this or brother that is going, and when we go, we should remember that Christ is present, and our minds should be filled with the solemnity of the occasion, and our hearts fit before him whose eyes are as a flame of fire to penetrate their secret depths, and our attitude should be one of devoutness and godly fear. The presence of Christ is a solemn occasion, and into that presence we come when we assemble in one place to commemorate his sacrificial death. “There will I meet with you, and there will I commune with you.” REMARKS ON THE FOREGOING Every spiritually-minded brother and sister will cordially respond to the definition of the ecclesial institution as a divine tabernacle, pitched “in the midst of a waste howling wilderness of unenlightened humanity;” and all such will cry a hearty “Amen!” at the suggestion of “almost inexhaustible patience and carefulness” in our dealing with such an institution. Yet some care is needed in the deductions we draw from Paul’s attitude to the Corinthian ecclesia. Some have argued on that attitude in a way to nullify his express directions in other cases, which can never be intended by the writer of the foregoing remarks. Paul had authority as an apostle which he could use with decisive effect in case of need. It was authority he had received “not for destruction but for edification” as he said: but still it was authority which he was prepared to use, “since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me.” (11 Cor. 13:3.) He could say “if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man and have no company with him.” (11 Thes. 3:14.) We all know that men having authority in any matter to fall back upon, are naturally patient and gentle to a degree not so easy where there is nothing but argument and equal influence to set against the teaching of opposition. This has to be considered in judging of Paul’s tone and attitude towards an eeclesia in so corrupt a state as the Corinthians. But as to the right attidude towards such corruptions in the abstract, we must gather them where that is the subject in hand. Paul recognised the original character of the Corinthian ecclesia as “God’s building,” and argued against the various corruptions and doctrine and practice that prevailed at the time of his writing. But he did not mean that these corruptions were to be disregarded in fellowship. On the contrary; in the case of fornication referred to, he said “Put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” (1 Cor. 5:13.) He found fault with them at their indifference, and that they had not “rather mourned that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from you” (verse 2.) His argument goes powerfully against retaining such: “Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? PURGE OUT THEREFORE THE OLD LEAVEN.” (verse 6.) When he says “Judge nothing before the time” (1 Cor. 4:5), he is speaking of the brethren’s personal judgment of himself—a thing forbidden concerning all brethren, and a thing that cannot accurately be done. He is not speaking of ecclesial attitude to wrong doing. He does not mean that we are to shut our eyes to manifest disobedience or denial of the truth in our own midst. On the contrary, he makes the enquiry as if to something well understood and notorious:—“Do ye not judge them that are within?” (1 Cor. 5:12) that is, in the cognisance of manifest evil-doing, to the extent of refusing to eat with any man called a brother who is a fornicator, &c. (verse 11). So, though he argues with some who denied the resurrection, we are not to conclude that he regarded such a denial as compatible with a continuance of fellowship if persisted in. We must judge on this point by expressions directed expressly to the question of how error persisted in is to be dealt with. On this, he does not speak ambiguously. Even to the 173 Corinthians, referring to an approaching third visit, he expresses the fear that he should be found such as they would not like. He only writes in the tenour of apparent toleration, “lest,” says he, “being present, I SHOULD USE SHARPNESS according to the power which the Lord hath given me to edification and not to destruction” (2 Cor. 13:10). “Shall I,” enquires he, “come unto you with a rod, or in love and in the spirit of meekness? (1 Cor. 4:21). “Being absent now, I write to them which heretofore have sinned and to all other, that if I come again, I will not spare” (2 Cor. 13:2). In other epistles, the indications are quite explicit (and it cannot be that he contemplated our ignoring what he says in one epistle because of what he has said in another). To Timothy, he plainly says, “Withdraw thyself” (1 Tim. 6:5) from a class of professors whom he describes as “proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words,” who “consent not to wholesome words even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ.” He also says: “Avoid profane and vain babblings and oppositions of science falsely so called, which some professing have erred concerning the faith” (verse 20). He also advises him to shun certain “babblings” personated by Hymenæus and Philetus, “who concerning the truth have erred, saying the resurrection is past already.” To Titus he says, “A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition, reject” (3:10). To the Romans: “Mark them who cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned and avoid them” (16:17). John speaks plainly to the same effect: “If any man bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house” (2 Jno. 9–10.) And the messages of Jesus to the seven Asian ecclesias are all more or less in the same strain. It is all according to reason; for if we were at liberty to ignore departure from the faith and practice of the Gospel, it would certainly happen in the long run that both must vanish from our midst. Friendliness would indispose a man to be critical; decay would set in as the result of the indifference. Thus the ecclesia would prove the reverse of the pillar and ground of the truth. No community can ever hold together that winks at the denial of its own principles. It cannot be that the foregoing article is intended to advocate such a thing, or to inculcate anything opposed to something so obviously scriptural and reasonable as the maintenance of the faith and practice of the Gospel by the refusal of fellowship where they are denied. What must be intended is the discountenance of individual secession from an ecclesia on insufficient grounds. Against this mistake, the argument is powerful, and will be upheld by every discriminating friend of the truth. We perpetrate a wrong against Christ if we separate ourselves from his brethren on the ground of some personal grievance against one or more in their midst. There is a right remedy for this; and if from any cause, we cannot apply it, let us forbear. In such things, we are to practice the “almost inexhaustible patience and care” spoken of, and even in matters of error, we must be quite sure the wrong is espoused, and give everyone an opportunity of repudiating the wrong, before we resort to the extreme and irrevocable remedy of separation, by which we throw the issue entirely on the final judgment of Christ. There may be cases in which we have no alternative, but it is far better if we can settle differences before we meet Him. The Gospel and the Baptists of the Seventh Century By bro. John Thomas The Herald of the Kingdom and Age to Come, 1855, p. 33-34 (Excerpt) You see, then, reader, that the doctrine taught in these pages is neither so heretical nor novel as some suppose. The heresy and novelty is with Modern Baptism, Methodism, Presbyterianism; in short, with all the Isms from Romanism to Campbellism, Millerism, and Mormonism, the most recent editions of the wisdom from beneath, as substitutes for the gospel of the kingdom of God. The Herald contends for the original faith, which has been so completely corrupted by sectarian traditions, that the Baptists, 174 who formerly professed it, are unable to recognize their own! If this be the case with them, after less than two centuries, is it surprising that, after eighteen, professors should not be able to recognise the doctrine of Jesus and his apostles, and in the plenitude of their ignorance should reject it as heretical and vain? It is not surprising; the wonder is, that with so many conflicting sorts of Christianity in the world, any true faith and practice should be found. The truth, however, would long ago have become extinct, but for such “pestilent publications” as the Herald; whose “mission” is to agitate the waters, that stagnation may not ensue. They are like the great teacher, in that they “come not to bring peace, but a sword.” As soon as they cry “peace,” their mission is at an end. They preach peace to the righteous; but for the wicked, who make void the word of God by their pious traditions, they have nothing but torment day and night. This is the philosophy of that cry against them of bitterness, uncharitableness, censoriousness, and severity! It is the outcry of the wicked in torments. They behold their idols demolished by the battleaxe of eternal truth, and their most cherished imaginations levelled with the dust; so that, naturally enough, they wail and gnash their teeth with imprecations and reproaches upon the destroyer. But, shall the defender of the oppressed therefore stay his hand? Shall the truth lie weltering in her gore, gasping in the article of death, and her friends tamely sheathe their two-edged sword, because of the cries of her wounded foes? No, no: “Cry aloud, and spare not; lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show the people their transgressions, and the sons of Belial their sins! I never heard a man yet, thoroughly imbued with the truth and a love of it, cry out against a hearty and uncompromising castigation of error, as bitter and too severe. Where men’s faith is weak, and their minds are full of uncertainty, and they are conscious that their own deeds will not bear the light, you find them full of “charity,” and sensitively fearful of the truth being too plainly spoken. All their sympathies are with the feelings of the corrupters and transgressors of the word. They don’t want their feelings hurt, lest it should do harm! The fact is, they don’t want the truth too plainly demonstrated, lest it should make them unpopular; or they should be themselves obliged to defend that of which they were not fully assured. There is always some screw loose in these mealy-mouthed and syren apologists of truth. The spirit of the flesh (which they mistake for the Holy Spirit) works in them a fellow-feeling with the children of disobedience; not that they really sympathize with them—they are too selfish for that: but in uttering this hard doctrine of their iniquity, thou condemnest us also. This is the secret of their whining about “bitterness and severity,” they are themselves convicted of treachery to the truth. It is, then, to the “pestilent fellows” and their publications in all past ages, not to canting pietists and sickly sentimentalists, puling from morn to dewy eve about “charity” and a “Christian spirit,” that the world is providentially indebted for the preservation of the gospel from entire oblivion. The charitable and pious orthodoxy of “the Four Denominations” fill the pulpits of the land. Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, and Episcopalian clergy all recognize one another as ambassadors of Christ, and their sects as so many divisions of the true church. But what have they done with the gospel confessed by the Baptists 200 years ago? Crucified and buried it; hence the recognition of the Baptist Denomination as one of the orthodox four! They laid it in a sepulchre and walled it up, and have set to their seal of reprobation. But God has raised it from the dead; and put it into the hearts of certain whom it has freed from ecclesiastical servitude, to contend for it earnestly and fearless of the authority, power, or denunciation, of scribes, pharisees, hypocrites, or of any other of this generation of vipers new revived. This is our work, and by God’s grace we will do it heartily until the hour of his judgment comes, and the Lord Jesus appears to vindicate his own. 175 Notes (Free will) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1887, p. 572 R.L.—We do not believe in or practice “coercion.” Submission to the truth is an affair of enlightened free will on all hands. Individually, we claim and exercise the right only that every man claims and exercises (our opponents most of all)—the right of deciding for ourselves and ourselves alone what it is our duty to do or refrain from doing. If others for themselves agree with us. this is not our crime, but a happy coincidence which only muddy-mindedness can lay to our charge. We make no profession to have more ability than others to decide such questions. We are what we are, making no professions one way or other. If others make professions for us, we can only regret the unwisdom, and endure it with many other embarrassments incident to the present headless condition of affairs. Chat With Correspondents, and Extracts From Some of Their Letters By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1886, p. 69-70 Fellowship J. C. H.—We accept your friendly critique on the conduct of the Christadelphian in the spirit that prompts it. We cannot, however, accept all your positions. There either is or is not such a thing as Scriptural fellowship in our age. If there is not, we may as well abandon all attempts to apply Scriptural principles in our relations with men, and be content to drift on the unsettled waters of mere racereligionism—a Catholic among Catholics, a Protestant among Protestants, a Mahommedan among Mahommedans, a Hindu among Hindoos, &c. Presumably, you would not advocate this but would recognise that there must be at least an attempt to discern what the principles of revealed truth are, and to obtain a recognition of these as a basis of religious association. When you have conceded this, you will find yourself on the highroad to the Christadelphian position. There is no middle ground between that position and the absolute indifferentism of national ecclesiasticism. For what is the position? First, the recognition of apostolic truth as the material of individual conviction; and secondly, an acceptance of the duty coming along with it of limiting fellowship to those who accord a similar recognition. If this is a right position (and it has been proved in the article on fellowship to which you object), then it is no faithful man’s part to unite himself to those who may “differ from himself in his reading or interpretation of the Scriptures.” He is under apostolic obligation to withdraw where the truth, as he conceives it, is not received. You call this “setting up as judge and jury in the matter and acting as though we were the divinely accredited arbiters in the question as to the true meaning of some or all of the works of God.” This is a mis-description. The man in such a case judges and jurifies himself merely. He decides that his surroundings in a given case impose upon him a certain line of duty. In this he is a divinely appointed arbiter in so far as God requires him to discern and perform his duty. You look at the act as it bears on those from whom he withdraws. It is this that confuses your view. You speak of “excluding” from fellowship. This is not the question: it is “withdrawal.” There is a great difference. No enlightened man will claim jurisdiction over another. His jurisdiction is limited to himself: and here, surely, it is absolute. If the conditions of Scriptural association do not exist, he is bound to perceive the fact and act upon it, or else accept the character of neutral, of which the divine law provides no recognition. It is not a case of pulling up the tares, but of acting a part apostolically enjoined. The tares are still left, if tares they are. It belongs to God to pull them up. Nevertheless it belongs to men who may wish to be garnered with the wheat to meanwhile act a faithful part by the truth which God commits to every man who receives it, 176 and when necessary to “withdraw from every brother who walks” inconsistently with apostolic principles. You suggest that this was the prerogative of apostolic authority only. Look into it and you will see it is apostolic advice and command to believers. We do not require apostolic authority to obey apostolic counsels. Apostolic counsels are as valid in the 19th century as in the first century; otherwise it would come to this, that the apostolic work was confined to the lives of the apostles, and that there can be no compliance with apostolic principles, (and therefore no salvation) in the nineteenth century! It doubtless would “require the gift of the Spirit,” as you say “to act with the authority of Christ” with regard to others, but a man does not require the gift of the Spirit to decide his own attitude towards men and things. What may be the right attitude, he has to find out; when found, he is bound to take it, or incur condemnation on the day of account. He requires no inspiration to see when the doctrines or the commandments of Christ are set aside: and when he sees this, Christ has commanded him what to do as regards continuing or not continuing his participation with the unfaithfulness. He leaves God to deal with the unfaithful; but while he does this, he is not absolved from the duty of exercising his own discernments, and “coming out from among them.” We have truly no right to excommunicate: but we have a right to take ourselves away if circumstances call for it. Intelligence (Canada) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1897, p. 126 [H. W. S.—As regards the other meeting, men who teach that the Revelation of John has a wholly future application, do not “hear what the Spirit saith to the churches,” and therefore cut themselves off from those who desire to be in harmony with the truth.—ED.] A Sad Letter on the Nature of Christ and ResurrectionJudgment By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1895, p. 61-64 John Goodliffe, of Lorraine, N.J. (U.S.A.), writes a long and fervent letter, from which this is an extract:—“My heart is sad. I have read much that has come from your pen with great joy. It is only upon two points that I do not see eye to eye with you. I commend you in your general writings. They are presented in the purest and choicest language; and I will say it, no writings I have read comfort my heart like yours. . . . O, my brother, I do thank God for the exhortations and writings of those who are earnest and faithful to the truth. I have written a little myself, but the real comfort comes from the Scriptures and from those who rightly divide the word of truth. We must expand beyond our own circle of vision. Why is it so essential, as the Apostle puts it, not to forget to meet together, but to exhort one another? Alone we die, together we live. Now, my brother, let me ask you a few questions. I know where you stand. Please deal gently with me, should you care to answer me. Is it essential for a person to believe in mortal emergence, and in the sinful flesh of Jesus in order to be saved? These are the two points that at present I do not see with you. If these are essential, my heart’s longings are all in vain. My broken heart has no refuge. My convictions of truth must be erroneous. My condition would indeed be sad. O my brother, do not be too hard in your thoughts toward me. I do not take up the cudgel against you as some do. I am sure you are honest and sincere in your course, though I think a little more heart would answer better. In referring to sinful flesh, Paul says Jesus was made in the likeness of sinful flesh. Now, my dear brother, is the likeness of a thing the thing itself? It is written God made man in His likeness. Certainly 177 this likeness was not in the nature of God, or the Elohim. It could exist only in the physical formation. Yet it is spoken of as a likeness. It will not do to contend too far in that direction with Adam. When we consider the divine origin of Jesus, should we drag it to the level of our own sinful conditions? Surely he was made superior to man in some respects, or he could not have held out against the trials and temptations that beset him on every hand. Do you think there was ever any liability for him to fail in the purpose that he was born to carry out? No, no, you do not. A mere ordinary man would have failed; or at least it would have been doubtful. Had Jesus been in the perfect likeness of our human nature, our salvation would have been very uncertain indeed, and all mankind would have been made in vain. Hence a body was prepared for him, suitable for the terrible emergency. The Word made flesh, but not sinful in its tendency as ours. I do not desire controversy, but love. “As to resurrection, why worry about details? It is resurrection, whether a process or instantaneous. You contend the judgment requires a process to a complete resurrection. I believe in the judgment seat of Christ: are you prepared to say just what that judgment will require before him who knows his own sheep? When the chief Shepherd shall appear, what? Jesus gives at least one illustration of what it will be in the distribution of rewards to the ten and five talent servants. Now, my dear brother, I do not say you are right or wrong in your deductions. But may not these questions have their place among the doubtful disputations Paul refers to in one of his letters? You see what bitterness is engendered. We must be gentle and entreat. We must draw together, and not separate. Paul says, Mark them that make divisions, &c. Will you forgive me if I write in regard to the amount of knowledge needed before baptism? My own faith upon this question is this: Understanding and believing the things presented to us in Acts 8–12 constitute the basis of the needed faith before immersion. This is the groundwork upon which I stand firm. No deviation from this, which forms the basis of fellowship among the brethren of Christ. . . . It does seem to me, dear brother, that although knowledge is good, too much should not be expected from honest learners.” (In the course of his letter, the writer says that his acquaintance with the truth dates back to the days of Dr. Thomas, and that he was enlightened by the reading of Elpis Israel, and immersed in the Doctor’s presence.) REMARKS.—It is impossible not to respect the spirit and intent of the letter from which the foregoing are copious extracts. It doubtless represents the mental state of a large class. There are men with almost agonizing sincerity of purpose who cannot see through the fogs that envelop the truth in an age when there is no living voice of authoritative guidance, and when the power of correctly interpreting the written Word is the only rule of conviction. It is natural to wish to think that in such a situation of divine truth on the earth, the same consideration will at the last be shown towards those who earnestly do their best in the dimness, that was shewn, on the intercession of Hezekiah, towards the multitude in Israel who “had not cleansed themselves, and yet did eat the Passover otherwise than it was written” (2 Chron. 30:18.) It may be so: God is not unrighteous or unreasonable. At the same time, in such a situation, when the truth can with difficulty be kept alive at all, it is not for those who know the truth to work by a may be. We must be governed by what is revealed, leaving the Lord to revoke the present rule of probation, or make His own allowances in its application. The rule at present, as our correspondent fully recognises, is the reception of and submission to “the things concerning the Kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ.” He unequivocally says there must be no deviation from this as the basis of fellowship. Now the trouble that afflicts our correspondent is the application of this rule, neither more nor less. We make the things of the kingdom and name, our foundation. The question is, are we to require all the “things,” or only a part of them, in laying this foundation? If our correspondent says a part is sufficient, he puts himself out of harmony with the record, which always lays emphasis on “the faith of the Gospel,” and the “one faith” as subsisting in “the whole counsel of God.” If we agree to all the things, and not a part only, then we must front the question whether the two subjects on which he comments are or are not included in the things in question. He will find it impossible to exclude them. If the nature 178 of Christ and his function as judge be not included among them, it would be difficult to give a reason for including any doctrine among them; and where, then, would be the “things”? Both John and Paul place the nature of Christ in the position of a first principle, on which there is to be no compromise. John says that no man is to be received who denies that Jesus came in the flesh (1 Jno. 4:3; 2 Jno. 10.); and Paul is careful to emphasize that the flesh in question was “of the seed of David” (2 Tim. 2:8; Rom. 1:3); derived from which, he necessarily partook of “the same” flesh and blood as his brethren (Heb. 2:14), and was consequently “tempted in all points like them,” though without sin (Heb. 4:15). There are other reasons why, in the wisdom of God, it was needful that this should be. These reasons have been amply exhibited in the past controversies that have taken place, and need not be repeated here. Our correspondent, without intending it, places himself in antagonism to the testimony in affirming that, while Jesus came in the flesh, it was not in flesh “sinful in its tendency as ours.” The testimony is that he was “tempted in all points” as ourselves, which could not have been the case in the absence of the susceptibilities which our correspondent denies. The very essence of temptation is susceptibility to wrong suggestion. The victory lies in the opposing considerations brought to bear. The truth of the matter does not depend upon the word “likeness” or any other single term, but upon the combination of statements made—which are all in language plain enough to be free from obscurity. At the same time, it has to be pointed out that the word “likeness” in the Greek has the force of resemblance so complete as to be sameness. This is illustrated in the statement that Jesus was made in “the likeness of men” (Phil. 2:7). The extent of the likeness is defined as extending to “all points” and “all things” (Paul’s words—Heb. 2:17, 4:15). What can we say but that he was a man, and not the mere likeness of a man? But then, exclaims our correspondent, “Surely he was made superior to man in some respects.” Unquestionably. He was not a mere man—not a mere Jew—not mere flesh. He was the flesh of Abraham in a special form. Our correspondent well says that “a mere ordinary man would have failed.” True, but wherein did the extraordinariness consist? It is here where our friend gets on to the wrong line. He makes Christ of different stuff—“flesh not sinful in its tendency.” He should rather realise that he was the same stuff specially organised and specially used, having the same inherent qualities tending to temptation and death; but qualified to overcome both by the superior power derived from his paternity. Much of the difficulty that some experience in the understanding of this subject arises from a wrong assumption on what we may call the natural-history side of human nature. It seems to be imagined that all human beings are necessarily on the same level of moral imbecility. This is far from the case, as we know from experience. All human beings would be equally incapable on all points if all were equally left untended from the cradle. They would all be speechless idiots without exception if suckled and cradled up by beasts, as has happened in rare instances. But the difference made by instruction and training makes all the difference in the world between two men both equally human: one shall be a stolid brute, and the other verging upon the grace and intelligence of angelhood. But this is not the only difference. Though all men are equally human on certain main points, there are fundamental differences arising from parentage. Two boys—one an Indian cross-breed, and the other a European—may be brought up in the same family, sent to the same school, and will turn out totally different men—one stupid and barren and intractable, and the other bright and fertile and docile. They are both human, but they both differ radically. How fallacious it would be to reason from one to the other on the ground of both possessing a common human nature. They are both human truly, but human of very different qualities. To say that Christ was a man partaking of our sinful nature does not mean to say that he was the same sort of man as other men. His parentage and education were both divine; and as it was said, “Never man spake like this man,” so it has to be said that never man thought as this man, or loved as this man, or felt as this man. He was a special man altogether, though as to nature the same: just as a special vase, got up and gilt for a royal table, is a different article from a common mug, though made of the same china clay. 179 “As to resurrection,” it is treating the subject too narrowly to speak of “mortal emergence,” which is a mere detail in a process. The process is the bringing forth of the dead for judgment at the return of Christ. The question is, Is it the function and prerogative of Christ to judge the living and the dead at His appearing and to give eternal life to those whom he shall declare and manifest at his tribunal as the approved, on the basis of “account” given? On this there cannot be two opinions with men in daily intimacy and love with the Scriptures. The next question is, Is not this truth one of “the things” concerning Jesus testified in the Gospel? There is but only one answer possible, in view of Acts 10:42, and Heb. 6:1–2. This being so, it is impossible to be indifferent to a doctrine like “immortal emergence,” which deprives the judgment of Christ of its characteristic and essential function. Divergences on these subjects are as lamentable and bitterness-engendering as our correspondent feels them to be; but they are inevitable where men are in earnest about the supremacy of Divine principles. It would be pleasant, and in many ways profitable, to hold them in abeyance and “agree to differ,” but such a policy on the part of enlightened men is not possible without unfaithfulness. There is nothing for it but to maintain the truth in our basis of fellowship, with all the patience and urbanity we can exercise, but with all the quiet inflexibility of men who know they are dealing with a Divine trust, in which will be “a fearful thing” to be found at last unworthy stewards. Birmingham Miscellanies By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1890, p. 273-274 (Excerpt) A large and interesting tea meeting on Whit-Monday was preceded by a rambling visit on the part of a few to Sutton Park, where they spent a season in scripture reading and conversation in the quiet seclusion of the “North dell.” While so engaged, a number of those separated from us on the question of inspiration assembled on the other side of the little valley and sang “Brethren let us walk together.” It was very pretty, but misplaced. If there had been music for the Scripture words “How can two walk together except they be agreed?” we might have responded. Any other response would have been unsuitable, so we remained silent. Union has to be spiritual before it can be social.—In the evening, an unusually excellent meeting took place in the Temperance Hall. Brother and Sister A. T. Jannaway were present from London. Brother Jannaway much edified the meeting in an address on “Holiness,” the topic chosen for the evening’s meditation.—Brother Shuttleworth made some excellent remarks on the eve of sailing for Canada, where he has since safely arrived, if we may judge from the shipping telegrams. Intelligence (Bournemouth) By bro. G.S. Sherry The Christadelphian, 1898, p. 218 BOURNEMOUTH (WINTON).—Since our last report, we have had trouble in our midst, which has resulted in division. Brother H. Fry publicly proclaimed the doctrine that Jesus was not in a position requiring to offer himself as a sacrifice to secure his own redemption, that the sacrifice of Christ was required only to effect the salvation of actual transgressors. Jesus being no transgressor, for himself, his sacrifice was not needed. This teaching strikes at the root of the Scripture teaching of the condemnation of sin in the flesh, and also at the doctrinal basis of faith upon which our ecclesia has been founded for 12 years. It was necessary to meet this error in order to maintain the purity of the truth. After private and collective effort, which proved fruitless, it was decided to re-affirm and define our doctrinal basis of faith upon this subject, and as to those who refuse to acknowledge and accept it, we feel duty bound 180 from such to stand aside. The following propositions were submitted to every member of the ecclesia for acceptance. 1st.—That the Scriptures teach: That Adam was created capable of dying, but free from the power of death, and when he disobeyed in Eden he was condemned to death for that disobedience, and that he came under the power of death solely on account of this sin; That in consequence of this offence all his descendants have been condemned to death, but without the moral guilt of his transgression attaching to them, and that those who are not actual transgressors die under the condemnation they inherit from their first parents. 2nd.—That the Scriptures teach: That Adam was created very good, and was then utterly devoid of that which the Scriptures style “sin in the flesh,” that from the time of his disobedience, and in consequence thereof, he had sin in his flesh; that sin in the flesh of his descendants, although not involving them in the moral guilt of Adam, has the power of death in them; that Jesus Christ who was sinless as to character by his sacrificial death and resurrection put away his sin nature (which was the only appointed means for the condemnation of sin in the flesh, that is, as a basis upon which it, the flesh, could be redeemed) and by which he destroyed the devil and death in relation to himself; That this destruction of sin and death by Jesus Christ has been made the basis of their future abolition in relation to all the righteous. 3rd.—That inasmuch as the foregoing scriptural truths substantially form part of our doctrinal basis of fellowship and are essential to “the things concerning the name of Jesus Christ” we hereby resolve from this time to discontinue fellowshipping all who believe that the descendants of Adam were not condemned to death on account of Adam’s sin, or that Jesus Christ’s sacrificial death was not necessary to redeem himself as well as others from that condemnation, until such time as they repudiate these antiscriptural doctrines. Forty-five assented to them, and nine refused to acknowledge them, the result being that we have withdrawn from the following for refusing to endorse the truth as most surely believed among us: Brother Fry and sister Fry, brother H. Fry, sisters N. Fry, E. Fry, and A. Fry, brother J. Gamble, sisters R. Gamble and Fanny Gamble—the last two were only immersed about three weeks before this happened, and they then gave a clear expression of the faith as we believe it. This is a sore trial to us, but God will help us. The truth is first pure, then peaceable. Chapter XXI – Strained Relations With Dr. Thomas By bro. Robert Roberts From My Days and My Ways The Doctor left us in due course to keep appointments at various places in England and Scotland. I have bitten my tongue several times since at the recollection of the hard work laid out for him by youthful inexperience. Having no particular sense of fatigue in those days myself, I laid out the programme on the time principle merely, without allowing for the recuperative needs of a man verging towards elderly life. Most of the nights were arranged for and all day on Sundays. “Poor Dr. Thomas,” I have said many times since. It was too bad. People of robust health and strong intellectual interest are so liable to look upon a lecturer as a machine that can go of course. They forget he is human, and that his energy can be pumped out, and must have time to brew again before he is fit for work without harm. Hearers feel only the pleasure of his words, and do not feel the fatigue caused to him by the consumption of brain fuel. They feel refreshed by his lecture, and cannot help imagining that he feels so too. I distinctly recollect supposing, in the days of boyhood, that there was a good deal of affectation in the allusions I used to see in the papers about speakers being exhausted by their efforts. It was part of 181 my ignorance. We are all ignorant to start with. We think we know when we don't. Experience is the only thorough and accurate teacher: and it teaches by a quiet and slow and extensive process of tuition that cannot easily be formulated in words afterwards. It is made up of a thousand mental accretions that can only come with the varied experiences and reflections of years. Hence the scriptural exaltation of age over youth. I see it all now: but in my young days I felt a hot-spur impulsiveness of wisdom, of which I am now ashamed. At the same time, I was unfortunate in having no teachers that gave me the curb of reason. There was dumb opposition or passive dogmatism which I could not distinguish from stupidity. Had I been privileged with access to enlightened and benevolent and communicative experience, I think I could have listened and would have been swayed; for I had always a strong relish for reason. However, it is all past now, and the Doctor has got through his wearisome labours, and rests with Daniel, ready to "stand in his lot at the end of the days" now nearly finished. During his tour, his mind was poisoned against me by envious seniors, who were more alive to their personal consequence than to the great and glorious work of which the Doctor was the humble instrument, and which I was striving with all my might to abet. I saw and felt the change when he returned from his journey: but I knew it would only be temporary when the Doctor came to know the men he was dealing with. It turned out as I anticipated, but it took time, and, meanwhile, his manifestly unfriendly bias was a trial to me- quite a bitter one for a time. Had I not been a daily reader and a fervent lover of the oracles of God for myself, I should have turned away in disgust. As it was, it made me turn round, as it were, and look at the Bible again, and see if Dr, Thomas was really right. There was only one answer; and, therefore, I swallowed my bitters and made up my mind to wait. The sharpest rap was the imputation of a mercenary motive in the list of names which I had appended to the second edition of the Twelve Lectures. This list included some in Scotland who did not take a thorough-going attitude on behalf of the truth, although connected with the meetings there that were based upon a professed acceptance of the truth. I did not know at that time how partial was their allegiance and how limited was their apprehension of scriptural things, and how uncertain was their repudiation of the established fables of the day which so thoroughly make void the Word of God. They were professing brethren, and I felt called on to give them the benefit of all doubts. I was indeed much afraid of doing them a wrong in apparently proscribing them. I had before my eyes the fear of the words of Christ about offending one of the little ones believing on him, which has, in fact, been one of the chiefest sources of my distress in all the wranglings and divisions that have since arisen in connection with the truth, and I had not attained that liberty that comes from clearer sight and a greater breadth of view in all matters affecting the relations of God and man. Therefore, in the said list of names of referees for the guidance of interested strangers, I gave a place to men from whom afterwards I was compelled to separate. I did not do it without a mental struggle. It was said I had put them to help the sale of the lectures. Oh, how much was this contrary to the truth! I had no object in selling the lectures, for they yielded no profit; and all the sale that I ever expected had already taken place. Finally, it was distinctly as a concession to the fear of doing wrong that I inserted the names at all. It was a sharp lesson in the art of patient suffering for well-doing and making no reprisals. I wrote to the Doctor in explanation of my action, and in defence of the men impugned. I received no answer. Time went on and I came to see that duty required my separation from a doubtful fellowship. I wrote again to the Doctor, telling him of the correction of my perceptions. In five months afterwards, I received the following letter:"West Hoboken, Hudson Co., N. J., " October 28th, 1864. 182 "DEAR BROTHER ROBERTS,--I have received from you two letters one dated February 11th, and the other May 30th—to neither of which have I been able to find time to reply. In relation to the former one, I consider the delay has been an advantage to us both; and in regard to the last, I do not think the procrastination will have resulted in any harm. Had I replied to the former, I should have had to do battle with you to bring you into the position you now occupy with regard to those blind leaders of the blind— Duncan, Dowie, Fordyce and Co. When the truth is in question, the benefit of all doubts should be given to it, not to those whose influence with respect to it is only evil and that continually. You erred in giving them any benefit of doubt in the premises; but I rejoice that you have seen the error, and will no more send inquirers after the truth to inquire at such Gospel nullifiers as they. "I have a copy of your letter to Dowie. It is straightforward and to the point. We can have no fellowship with men holding such trashy stuff as the April number of the falsely-styled Messenger of the Churches exhibits. A man who believes in the Devil of the religious world and that he has the powers of disease and death, etc., is ignorant of the things of the Name of Jesus Christ.' If what are styled ‘the churches' are not delivered from the influence of the above firm of pretentious ignorance, our endeavours to revive apostolic faith and practice in Britain will be a miserable failure. No one should be recognised as one of Christ's brethren who is not sound in the first principles of the Gospel before immersion. The Kingdom and the Name are the great central topics of the Testimony of Deity. These are the things to be elaborated; and he that is not well and deeply versed in these only shows his folly and presumption in plunging head over ears into prophetic and apocalyptic symbols and mysteries. "I am truly glad you are ‘located' in Birmingham at last. I hope you may be instrumental in effecting much good, that is, in bringing many to a comprehensive and uncompromising faith and obedience. No parleying with the adversary, no neutrality; Christ or nothing. I hope you will be able to shoulder my friend Davis off the fence. He understands, I believe, and can defend the theory of the truth; but from the obedience to the faith he looks askance. There is brother Bailey too; he is a kind-hearted and soberminded brother; but I think rather too diffident of himself. Just put the point of the Spirit's sword into him, so as to stir him up to what he can do, without hurting him. I spent much pleasant time with him in Birmingham. Tell brother Wallis that we had an eccentric colonel in this country, killed in this war I believe, David Crocket by name, who used to say, ‘Be sure you're right, and then go ahead.’ The Public Prosecutor, I fear, is too well-to-do and too pious to be converted to the obedience of faith. It is the greatest difficulty we have to contend with in the case of outsiders—that of converting ‘Christians’ to Christianity. When you see his excellency, please give my respectful compliments to his pious sinnership, in such set form as you may deem best. "Will you please write to Mr. Robertson and request him, if he have funds enough of mine in hand, to send me, through Wiley of New York, and his agent in Trafalgar Square, Charing Cross, a volume entitled ‘Vigilantius and his Times,' by Dr. Gilly. I suppose it may be obtained of Sealey and Co., Fleet Street, London. Said Vigilantius flourished in the fourth century, and occupied very much the position to his contemporaries that I do to mine, and was about as popular. I wish, therefore, to form his acquaintance. It will doubtless be refreshing. "I have sent an epistolary pamphlet of 36 pp., size of this, to care of brother Tait. It will reach you on its travels in due course. If you like to publish it in The Ambassador, without mutilation, you may. The perusal of it will supersede the necessity of my repeating its contents here. "You are right. Your 'mistake' evoked the testimony of Antipas. It was designed to draw the line between faithful witnesses and pretenders in Britain; and to define our position here in relation to war, so that if any of us were drafted by the Devil, we might be able to prove that we are a denomination conscientiously opposed to bearing arms in his service. “Half-a-dozen copies of each number of The Ambassador have come to hand. Our currency here will prevent any circulation in this country. A paper dollar with us (and paper is all we have) is only worth 40 183 cents in Canada. You did not wait to learn if I thought it expedient for my biography to appear. It is too late now to say anything against it. What can't be cured must be endured I hope the paper will be selfsupporting, and pioneer a strait and narrow way for the truth through the dense, dark forest and swamps on every side. "In future, it would be well not to herald my death until hearing from me direct. Not mixing myself up with politicians, I am not likely to die by their hand. Some pious Methodist or Presbyterian would be more likely to put me out of the way. A late pupil of sister Nisbet's, when she was Miss Gardner, and lived in Berwick, now the wife of a physician in Toronto, who is interested in the truth, greatly to her annoyance and chagrin, said recently, 'I wish it were right to poison him!’ – a very pious wish for one who calls herself ‘a Christian of the Presbyterian order.' When I die my family will certify the fact. But Paul says ‘We shall not all sleep.' I and you and others may be of these. Change without death will happen to some. I trust we may be among such. My father died last spring, aged 82. He died at Washington City, D.C., without the least sickness. Remember me kindly to sister R. and to all the faithful, and believe me sincerely yours in the faith and hope of the Gospel, in which all true Christadelphians rejoice. "JOHN THOMAS." Sunday Morning at the Birmingham Christadelphian Ecclesia. – No. 194 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1888, p.659-661 (Excerpt) If these things are true, why should we not insist on them? It is the great offence of the truth to do so. We are called uncharitable and narrow-minded because we re-echo the declarations of a teacher whom we believe and whom men around us generally profess to regard as a teacher come from God. It is not a question of charity at all. It is a question of truth. It is charitable to declare the truth surely. It is highly uncharitable to withhold it. This question of charity is much misapplied. It is beautiful—it is indispensable—that we be charitable; but charity must run on legitimate lines. Let us be charitable to the utmost with our own things; we have no right to be charitable with the ways or words of God: “He that hath my word,” saith God, “let him speak it faithfully.” What would be thought of a revenue officer dispensing alms out of government funds, or relaxing the claim of dues out of kindly feeling? He must apply to his own purse to meet the claims of charity. People have no right to be charitable with the truth of God—that is to hide it, or cloak it, or modify it for the sake of the feelings of men. Yet this is where the cry of charity is always raised; and, as a rule, it is raised by those who are not distinguished by charity in the regulation of their own affairs. If a man encroach on their rights, if a man do them an injury, if a man speak evil of them; oh, then, there is such flaming zeal “in duty to myself.” They make no remission of “duty to myself;” but duty to God—well, that is something they are prepared to be very charitable with. Let us get away from this fog and see that it is not uncharity but the plainest duty and the highest charity to say that men have no hope by nature, and that they can only acquire hope by submission to the institutions apostolically promulgated 1,800 years ago—which consist, in brief, in faith in the apostles’ testimony concerning Christ, and obedience to the commandments they delivered in his name. When this ground is clearly taken, there will be more readiness to insist upon the whole truth as the basis of fellowship with professed believers in the gospel of Christ, and less disinclination to take the logical issue and all its responsibilities, as to the hopeless position of all who are seeking the favour of God in any other way than the way of His own appointment. 184 But in all things there is a possibility of going to extremes—ugly and hurtful extremes, and this matter is no exception—great and glorious though it is. We have to “contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints;” but we may possibly do this to the destruction of the very things we are contending for. The same word that commands us to be valiant for the truth commands us to “speak the truth in love.” “The servant of the Lord must not strive, but be gentle to all men.” “The fruit of peace is sown in peace of them that make peace.” I have known some element of the beautiful truth contended for with a bitterness and a rancour and a hatred as great and ugly as was ever shown by the most uncircumcised politician of the flesh. Solomon speaks of “a jewel of gold in a swine’s snout.” Such a comparison seems the only fitting one for such a conjunction. Men have nothing to do with the doctrinal distinctions and definitions of divine wisdom who have not learnt the first and the great commandment and its fellow, on which hang all the law and the prophets. It is written that to love God with all the heart and our neighbour as ourselves is more than all burnt offering and sacrifice. So we may say that such an attainment is more than all points of doctrine that are not held and contended for in the meek and benevolent spirit which is meet in a created being in dealing with the holy and terrible verities of the Eternal. We must never forget the words of Paul, which most of us are well acquainted with, but which it is certain weigh little with very many. “Though I speak with the tongues of men and angels . . . . though I have the gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and have all faith so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. Charity suffereth long, and is kind. Charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil.” These words will measure us at the last. The law of love and long-suffering is the law of God. The universe is constructed and worked on this principle in nature and revelation. If we omit it from our spiritual operations, we are out of harmony with the scheme of things, however contentious we may be for points of truth. It is an apostle that has said: “He that loveth not knoweth not God, for God is love.” “He shall have judgment without mercy that showeth no mercy.” “He that saith he is in the light and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.” Contentiousness is not faithfulness, though faithfulness has more or less the element of contentiousness, in the sense of contending for the right. Faithfulness is espousing and doing and adhering to the right at all hazard; but in the genuine case, it is always in love and patience. When it is allied with “bitterness and anger, and wrath, and malice and evil-speaking,” it is not acceptable to God or any of his children. When men easily and naturally slide into accusation and condemnation of others, especially in their absence, they prove themselves the children of the flesh, whatever their knowledge may be. The angels are models to whom Peter points. He contrasts them with a certain class in his day, whom he describes as “presumptuous and self-willed,” and Jude, as “murmurers and complainers,” “who are not afraid to speak evil of dignities, whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, BRING NOT RAILING ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THEM (sinners) before the Lord.” If angels, with such powers of penetration and correct reading, indulge in no railing accusations against undoubtedly wicked men, where should the sons of God, in this mortal, erring state, be found in the matter? In the very attitude commanded by Christ: “Judge not: condemn not”—contend for the faith, but indulge in no personal railing. Be faithful to the claims, obligations, and injunctions of the truth, but leave all personal recriminations to the children of the flesh, whose destination is to be taken away in wrath. Wherever men are prone to rancour and severity of personal judgment, you may be sure the Spirit of Christ is not there; and you know what is written: “If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” And how easy would conformity to such lessons of wisdom be if we could have in full view out latter end. It is there waiting us, however insensible we may be to it. It is either to be down and leave all, and be laid away from the land of the living; or it is to be brought suddenly, one of these days, into the solemn presence of God’s works, actually begun again upon the earth in the reappearance of Christ on the earth. In either case we part for ever with the circumstances and surroundings of present life, and in both we come at once into relation with the living judgment of the word from which we may hide 185 ourselves in comfort at the present time: for we know that in death there is not a moment to the dead, and that a man dying appears to himself to be ushered at once into the presence of Christ at his coming. Consider and realise now how small will seem the things that vex or interest us now; how much shall we feel in need of that mercy on which all at last must throw themselves, and how odious to ourselves will at that time appear the rancour and strifes, and hard thoughts and speeches in which we may too easily permit ourselves now to indulge. Those who are blind to this ultimate bearing of truth—who seen incapable of detaching from the relations of the mortal present—call this sentimentality. It is a misnomer altogether. It is the presentation of truth that is bound to come at last to every man with terrible force when he finds himself in the presence of the tribunal, where things will be measured according to Divine rules of estimation. Be it ours in advance to be the children of wisdom in the recognition of the ways of wisdom, that wisdom at last may gladden us with that stupendously glorious award which she holds in both hands for the accepted of the Lord: “Length of days is in her right hand, and in her left hand riches and honour.” Answers to Correspondents (The Christadelphians and Their Attitude) By H. Heyes with remarks by bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1878, p. 226-229 CADISHEAD, near Warrington, February, 1878. My dear Sir.—In the important matter of preparation for acceptance and welcome by the Coming One, contrasted with honour, emolument, fame, or elevation in the present age, are too insignificant for consideration. It is just that every one interested should have his or her hearing in or by the Church; or, if objection be made to such claim, or such wording, I ask, are not recognised instructors bound to give ear to inquiry, candid doubts, and reasonable objections to this and that, which a seeker for the great salvation may hold, harbour, or desire? Christadelphians claim to be the ecclesia (but the less Greek the better), exclusively the Church; and with this high claim they are bound to be consistent. If one, who is bent on overcoming, sees not on certain points as ye see, and is willing, yea, desirous to be set right by evidence from the “law and testimony,” if proved wrong, then, sir, let such an one be fairly met and treated. Candidly, brother Roberts (though you will not say brother to me), I confess that, in respect to resurrection and judgment, you seem to have the argument. I cannot understand Paul’s declarations to the Roman and Corinthian churches in any way but as you set forth. But ye Christadelphians refuse communion with baptised believers who honestly view the point differently. Did the Romans and Corinthians understand the matter of resurrection at first, i.e., when they first heard the word and believed, as fully as they afterwards did? Whatever others may say, I say, no. If the Romans did, the Corinthians did not, for the apostle shows them a mystery—“Behold, a secret I disclose to you,” &c. (Diaglott, 1 Cor. 15:51.) Here Paul tells them more concerning resurrection and translation than they before knew; but ere this letter was written, the Corinthians were a church, and broke bread, and ate and drank wine together. They believed in the resurrection when they received the Gospel—they learned more afterwards. You test where Paul tested not. Again, concerning Satan, you have no warrant for denying communion with an honest believer, who, taking the obvious import of words, cannot conscientiously accord with you in declaring that there is no personal devil. You may greatly err in your exclusiveness. 186 Much as I think of the writings of Dr. Thomas—in mighty presentation of Bible truth I view no modern man his equal—I have learned to take no man for a guide. The doctor has erred—he lacked in understanding when he wrote about the Crimean war—this time has sufficiently proved, and when he says that any “other dust” will answer for the dust of the saints in the resurrection, he says what I believe not. Do you believe his ipse dixit here?—In hope of the kingdom, yours truly, H. HEYES. Remarks The foregoing is an interesting communication. It is apparently the utterance of a clear-headed, honest, and independent man, and therefore to be received and treated respectfully. Nevertheless, it calls for demur on the several points discussed. The statement that the Christadelphians claim to be “the ecclesia” (“church” is no less Greek, though of longer standing in English usage, and ecclesia is more convenient in consequence of the prostitution of the word “church,”) may be allowed to pass, if understood in the right way. As individuals, or as a human organisation, they make no pretence whatever to a divine appointment or standing. Their contention is that the truth of the gospel calls the believers of it from out of the world to be the servants of Christ, and that all who yield to the call become the called by virtue of their belief and obedience, and candidates for the favour of Christ at his coming. They claim to know and believe this truth. They do not claim “authority;” they do not attach any virtue to their organisation, except the advantages of edification to come from peace and order to its members. They do not set themselves up as an official body. They are merely an aggregation of men and women believing the truth of God, and striving to walk in the odedience of His commandments, hoping in the mercy of God for that eternal life which He has predicated on such a course. They have no ecclesiastical pretensions or desire for ecclesiastical recognition. If others believe in the same truth and walk in the same obedience, they are glad of and claim their company under the law of Christ. If any demur to the truth, or decline from that obedience, they withdraw from their company under the same law, not as a judicial act towards the withdrawn from, but as a washing of their own hands of complicity with evil. Thus, they rest everything on the truth, and nothing on their individual or corporate prerogative. The departure of the truth will be the departure of the ecclesia, even if the individuals remain in company one with another. The truth with them makes or unmakes: the organisation is an accident of the truth merely, and not its governor or even official medium. Understood thus, the Christadelphians admit that they claim to be the ecclesia, a claim, however, in which they admit all to participate who can prove that they are walking in the belief and obedience of the truth. Friend Heyes, however, cannot claim to be heard among them unless he is of them. The brethren of Christ, while exhorted to give to every man that asketh them a reason of the hope that is within them, are not called upon to give a hearing to error, if error it be, merely because the errorist (if he be errorist) thinks he is otherwise. Scriptural precept and common prudence rather counsel a contrary attitude.— (Prov. 19:27; 1 Tim. 6:3–5.) However, what may not be yielded to claim, as a right, may be conceded to request. Friend Heyes seems in earnest and deserves to be heard. He thinks, then, that Christadelphians err in refusing identification with those who are wrong on resurrection and judgment. He thinks the Christadelphians are right in their views on the subject itself, but wrong in their attitude toward those who are in error upon it. The very suggestion has a dubious appearance about it. Did not the fact that men will rise to judgment—that they must appear before the judgment seat of Christ to receive in body according to what they have done, whether good or bad (2 Cor. 5:10)—constitute a part of the apostolic testimony concerning Christ? Was it not one of the features of the truth which the apostles were in particular commanded to teach and to testify? (Acts 10:42)—one of the first principles of the oracles of God? (Heb. 6:1)—and part of Paul’s gospel?—(Rom. 2:16). If so— and friend Heyes tacitly admits it—why should we compromise it by receiving people who do not believe 187 it? Friend Heyes suggests, because they “honestly view the point differently.” If this is a good reason, why should it be confined to the subject of resurrection and judgment? Are there no other subjects on which people can “honestly view the point differently?” There is in fact no element of the truth upon which “baptised believers,” so called, cannot be found who “honestly view the point differently.” And if an honest rejection of the truth is to be winked at on one point, why not on all, and where then would be “the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth?” “But,” inquires friend Heyes, “did the Romans and Corinthians understand the matter of resurrection at first, i.e., when they first heard the word and believed, as fully as they afterwards did?” Let us suppose, for the sake of argument, they did not. It would not help the position for which friend Heyes is contending. In that case the issue would be between understanding the matter a little and understanding the matter much, which is a very different issue from believing a thing, and not believing it at all. Friend Heyes is advocating the reception among the Christadelphians of people who “honestly view the point differently,” and not of those who understand it a little. But friend Heyes is sure the Corinthians did not understand the matter fully at their baptism, whatever the Romans may have done. The ground of his certainty is not very solid. He finds Paul declaring to them a mystery—a secret, from which he infers they did not understand the subject of resurrection and judgment fully before. It all depends upon what the secret was about. If the secret referred to resurrection and judgment, the inference is justified—not otherwise. What is the secret? “We shall not all sleep, &c.” This is a point connected with the subject of resurrection and judgment, but it is no essential part of the subject itself. It was a point on which nothing was known, because not revealed, prior to Paul’s declaration. Jesus had said something about it—(Jno. 11:26), but his words were not recorded till long after Paul wrote to the Corinthians, and, therefore, it was a secret to them whether any of the brethren would be alive at the coming of Christ, or whether, if alive, they would have to die in order to take part with the dead in the resurrection, which was the great hope of the gospel. Paul’s telling them this secret does not prove that they did not before understand that which was part of Paul’s gospel, viz., that the dead would come forth to judgment at the coming of Christ. True it is “that ere this letter was written the Corinthians were a church, and broke bread and ate and drank together,” but it is also true that, in becoming a church, they believed the gospel Paul preached, part of which, by his own testimony—(Rom. 2:16)—was the doctrine of judgment in the day of Christ. Their ignorance of the point affecting the living contemporary with the arrival of the day did not affect their knowledge of the greater question. But what, if even it could be proved they were ignorant of the greater subject? That would not prove it was to be disregarded in the basis of our fellowship. Some of them denied the resurrection altogether. Some had not the knowledge of God.—(1 Cor. 15:12, 34.) Shall we, therefore, say these are immaterial points in a believer’s knowledge? The apostle’s recommendation concerning men refusing subjection to the truth, when he happened to speak on this point, was that the brethren should withdraw from them.—(Rom. 16:17; Titus, 3:10; 2 Thes. 3:14; 2 Jno. 9, 10.) The conclusion is obvious. We do not “test where Paul tested not,” if Paul recognised the truth as the basis of fellowship. The question of fellowship is governed by the question of what the truth and its requirements are. Where these are mutually recognised, fellowship ensues as a natural result. It would be in every sense an unsafe thing to compromise first principles for the sake of friendship that ought not to commence till these principles are mutually endorsed. These considerations bear on the other question referred to by friend Hayes. “Satan” is an element of the scriptural system of truth. It is a something to be repudiated by believers.—(Matt. 16:23); a something over which, in another form, believers hope to obtain the mastery when God shall bruise Satan under their feet.—(Rom. 16:20.) As the devil, he is the father of the children of the present world, to which Christ’s brethren do not belong (Jno. 15:19). To compass his destruction, Christ took part in Abraham’s flesh and blood, and suffered death therein.—(Heb. 2:14.) To destroy his works the Son of God was manifested.—(1 Jno. 3:8.) How can it remain an open question among believers what this devil 188 and satan is, which has so intimate a relation to their moral attitude and their doctrinal perceptions, and their personal hopes? To say that an understanding of who the devil is is not necessary in the basis of fellowship is equivalent to say that it is not necessary to understand for what purpose Christ died. Friend Heyes would shrink from putting the proposition in this form, and yet this is what it amounts to. Friend Heyes is right in refusing to take any man for his guide, but if Dr. Thomas was “mighty” in the presentation of Bible truth, as friend Heyes puts it, then divergence from him might be divergence from Bible truth. At all events, following Bible truth presented by Dr. Thomas is not following Dr. Thomas, who advanced nothing on his individual credit, but laboured exclusively to make the teaching of the oracles of God apparent. If the Dr. “has erred,” it is not in the two cases cited by friend Heyes. So far from “lacking understanding when he wrote about the Crimea war,” it was because of his understanding that he was able to prognosticate the war in Elpis Israel before it occurred, and to identify it as part and parcel of that political and military transformation which should develop the Russian ascendancy at the time of the end. The Dr. doubtless hoped for and expected a quicker development of this ascendancy than has taken place; but seeing there was no revelation as to the time it would take to develop, the slowness of it is no proof of error. The fact of its having taken place at all, in the face of the human improbabilities of the case, is a strong proof in the opposite direction of error. His teaching that any dust will do in the reconstruction of the dead is only in harmony with the fact of daily experience, that any flour and mutton will do to keep us going. If any flour will supply the material of continuous identity, any dust will suffice for the basis of its reproduction, for identity does not lie in the particular atoms of our being, but in the use made of any atoms by the dominant electrical laws of the organization. If it require the very atoms we have called our own during life, we are confronted with the spectacle of the cart loads of food we have used in the process of life—365 dinners per annum, not to speak of other meals. When friend Heyes has thought as much, and as deeply, about the subject as Dr. Thomas, he will see that the statement that any dust will do is not the ipse dixit of any man, but the conclusion arising from palpable present facts. A little more reflection may dissipate the uncertainties of friend Heyes’ present mood, and lead him to boldly accept a position which cannot in true reason be impugned, and which already, it seems, commends itself so much to his judgment in some respects. That it may be so will be the hope and the prayer of all brethren, prompted by the earnestness, honesty, and independence manifest in his epistle. Resurrectional Responsibility and Fellowship (Excerpts Follow) The Christadelphian, 1894, p. 203-204 LONDON (NORTH) After a long series of controversial meetings on the new doctrine introduced by brother Andrew, the ecclesia was invited to re-affirm the basis of fellowship heretofore in vogue among them, in which the doctrine of light being the basis of resurrectional responsibility was avowed. A majority refused to do so, in consequence of which, brother Lake issued a circular, of which the following is the principal portion:— “Dear Brethren and Sisters,—You are aware that at the business meeting on Sunday last, when the Ecclesia was asked to re-affirm its basis of fellowship against the false theories introduced by brother Andrew, it refused to do so. We, therefore, who maintain the truth as it has always hitherto been held and taught in the London meeting, have withdrawn from the meeting at Barnsbury Hall. We invite you to meet with us upon the old basis of fellowship. Our first meeting will be held on Sunday morning next, at the Temperance Hall, Church Passage, Islington (entrance by the Church in Upper Street, or from Cross 189 Street). We meet at 11 o’clock for the breaking of bread, when all who uphold the truth in its purity, as hitherto taught among us, are cordially invited to attend.” [The refusal to affirm a doctrine is equivalent to its repudiation; which is a much more serious thing than inability to see it, especially when combined with avowed antagonism to it, as in the present case. The decision of the assembly left brother Lake and those who act with him no alternative but the course they have adopted.—ED.] The Christadelphian, 1894, p. 242 The circular points out that “the ecclesia has not hitherto made this a test of fellowship.” This is true; and if it is now becoming such, it is not because of any changed attitude on the part of those who believed, but because some who believed it are now repudiating it, and inviting the brethren by a determined endeavour (by pamphlet and otherwise) to depart from it; and, not only so, but are declaring the maintenance of the truth in the case to be a work of error, and “a serious interference with first principles, &c.” Perhaps we have been wrong in winking at the denial of a truth that has always been recognised as a part of the Gospel from the beginning; and it may be that God in His providence is forcing us into a more prominent assertion of the fact that He will not be mocked by any of the sons of men to whom the knowledge of His sovereign will is allowed to come; but that He will require it at their hands in the great day of His wrath. We were invited ten years ago to unite in the attitude now being taken by the London brethren, on the occasion of an Australian ecclesia having withdrawn from some on this very subject. Our answer, which appears in the Christadelphian for April, 1884, page 190, was as follows:—“It seems a pity to make the fate of the rejected a cause of rupture where first principles are not compromised. It is the glad tidings of salvation . . . . that is the basis of union in Christ, and not the details as to how the disobedient are to be dealt with, so long as it is recognised that death is the upshot of disobedience. Granted that responsibility should be preached, but it is a point on which there should be patience with those who do not see the full extent of the responsibility. No one can say where, among the rejectors of the word, responsibility exists. We can only recognise the general and reasonable principle that light, when seen, makes responsible.” The Sydney brethren answered “The discussion had lasted three months. A continuation of the proceedings would have been destructive of the unity and peace that ought to prevail in every ecclesia: hence the action, which proceeded from no animus but from a simple desire for a Scriptural state of things and to maintain the wholesome rule of responsibility laid down by the Lord, that light having come into the world, if men knowingly refuse subjection they come under its condemnation. The question has now been raised in a way that defies accommodation. We kept back brother Andrew’s name till he himself published it to the world. Having done all we could to keep the controversy at bay, we can but sorrowfully accept the situation created, believing at the same time that the hand of God may be in it in compelling the assertion and proclamation of the whole truth— concerning the day of His anger as well as the day of His favour.—EDITOR. The Christadelphian, 1894, p. 302-303 EDITORIAL REMARKS The Advocate presentment of the matter, while racy enough to be quite readable, is inaccurate and inconsistent, yet perfectly intelligible as the unburdening of the editor’s mind in a situation peculiarly embarrassing to himself. The question he propounds, “What is the matter?” requires and admits of specific answer. Brother Williams may gather it from the remarks preceding those of brother Jannaway. If the question of the fate of the enlightened rejector of the truth has not been allowed to “remain where it was for thirty years,” it is because a public denial has been made of what has for thirty years been accepted as part and parcel of the professed system of the truth on the question of what 190 constitutes the ground of the human responsibility to God. Such a question is naturally an integral portion of the truth. We have for forty years been believing and preaching that the light of knowledge is the ground on which God holds man accountable for their actions in the great day of judgment. As it is written, “The entrance of thy word giveth light,” and “This is the condemnation that light is come.” This has now been publicly repudiated and denounced as “the thinking of the flesh.” This is what is the matter with us over here. Let the blame, if there is to be blame, lie at the right door. If brother Williams “does not know why brother Andrew took the course he did,” he knows he has taken the course, and therefore knows what the matter is. The fact that brother Andrew has veered round to the doctrine which brother Williams holds, explains why his sympathy should be with him and why the action of the brethren here who differ with him should appear in the highly coloured and tragical aspect exhibited in the phrases quoted by brother Jannaway. But it ought not to interfere with a correct discernment as to the facts. It is not on the one side a case of “kicking, or bruising, or stabbing” at all, nor on the other side is it a case of a brother prevailed against, who “breathes a spirit of love, the most gentle and Christ-like.” The London brethren have had to withstand open assault upon an avowed and professed principle of divine truth at the hands of a brother to whom they had most reason of all to look for its defence; and unhappily said brother has taken an attitude quite in contrast to the gentle ideal before the mind of brother Williams. But, of course, he is far from the scene of action, and only sees the dust raised, and not knowing what is going on, except that somebody that thinks as he thinks is getting the worst of it, imagines the worst, and naturally gets excited, and shouts and gesticulates with a vehemence that causes those on this side to wonder “What can the matter be over there?” Some evidently have not read correctly the literature that has issued on the subject, or they would not, as brother Williams does, fix on the accessory garnishing and hypothetical corollaries of an argumentum ad hominem as a statement of the essence of the subject. When a man mistakes a sample of sophistical syllogism for the statement of an opponent’s actual argument, we cannot help the impression that the heat of feeling has dimmed perception. But we must make allowance. Some other matters are smart, but not accurately stated, and consequently have no relation to the implied charge of dealing untruthfully and unjustly, except such as they seem to have within the four corners of excited sentences. Brother Williams does not sufficiently appreciate the significance of differing with Dr. Thomas on the question at issue. It is one thing to differ with Dr. Thomas as to the meaning of a particular passage, and another thing to differ with him as to a principle of divine truth. The question of what makes men responsible to the judgment of God is a question of divine truth; the question of whether that principle is enunciated or not in a particular passage is a question of exegetical detail. Two men agreeing on the first, might consistently disagree on the second. Both might believe one doctrine without agreeing that it was taught in the same place. Two advocates in court might disagree as to the meaning of a particular clause in an Act of Parliament without disagreeing as to its applicability to the case in court. But suppose one of them denied the authority of Parliament or the sovereignty of the Queen, an issue would be raised which would put the speaker out of court. Dr. Thomas has taught that the ground of man’s responsibility to God is the knowledge of His will. If this is the truth, then differing with Dr. Thomas is differing with the truth, which is a different thing from differing with Dr. Thomas’s opinions on matters not plainly revealed, such as “The Day of His Coming,” or the translation or application of particular passages. These distinctions have been admitted, if we remember rightly, in one of brother Williams’s debates or articles. And he cannot ignore them now for the sake of befriending the wrong side of a controversy with which he happens to sympathise. Dr. Thomas’s judgment on the divine principles regulating the relations of God and man will remain of great weight after all has been said about “mortal fallible men.” 191 The Christadelphian, 1896, p. 474-476 Brother MacDougall, of Cumnock, and the ecclesia of Kilmarnock, think the time has come for the reaffirmation of the truth that knowledge makes a man responsible to the judgment-seat of Christ. Brother Macdougall says its denial has gone outside of London, and that there is a necessity for a firm and decisive attitude on the question as affecting fellowship. Brother G. C. Harvey writes in the same sense. He says:— “Are we right in still regarding as brethren and sisters those who are now separated from us in London on the Responsibility Question? I have great doubts in my own mind. Many of the errors they put forward are fantastical and foolish; many of them downright denials of Scriptural truths, and the facts of the case, as amply shown by yourself and others; and in addition to which they slander those of the ‘One Body,’ holding on to the ‘One Faith’ of the apostles and prophets as developed, in God’s providence, in these latter days by the labours of Dr. Thomas. For three years has this been persevered in. They have been admonished, remonstrated with, and debated with, to no purpose: should they not now be regarded as ‘publicans and sinners’ as Christ said, and as such, are we right in addressing them as brethren? They deny that men who hear and understand and yet reject the words, or the gospel of Christ, will be judged by those words as Christ expressly declares. They suppress part of the ‘counsel of God,’ which includes ‘judgment to come” for the wilfully disobedient, and by so doing, they deny the record, believe not God, and ‘make Him a liar.’ This must be grievious sin in God’s sight. Then, again, they have issued their circular accusing us of denying vital truths, and declaring they will not receive in fellowship any who disagree with them, so severing themselves from the One Body of the One Faith, and including themselves among the sects and names of Christendom. May not this last act be taken as the judicial severance of the branch from the body after having had time given for repentance and reform, according to Rev. 2. and 21. I must say that I feel great hesitation in regarding them as brethren. Kindly well consider the matter and say something for guidance in the Christadelphian. If you can do so, I myself should be very glad, and, so I am sure, would many others.” REMARKS.—There is a good deal of force in this view of matters. We have for years felt uncertain—not as to the doctrine that men who knowingly refuse to submit to Christ are responsible to his judgmentseat at the resurrection, but as to how those ought to be regarded who deny it. The ground of our uncertainty was indicated in the cover note last month to “A. McD.”—namely, the fear of offending against Christ in passing judgment on those whom (otherwise believing on him) he may not condemn, while condemning their folly, in circumscribing his jurisdiction over sinners to those among them who try to obey him—apparently attributing everything to water, and nothing to knowledge. These men do not deny the faith of Christ. They believe in him, and obey him. They are guilty of an error of judgment as to his method of dealing with a particular class of sinners. They recognise the exclusion of that class from life eternal, but imagine that the law of life as construed by them excludes it also from the resurrection to condemnation—holding the sinners of this class “condemned already,” which they undoubtedly are, though not “punished already.” Are we to say their faith in Christ is invalidated by this error concerning the degree of punishment to be meted out to rebels against the light? Here we have always hesitated; and we know Dr. Thomas was against making it a ground of disfellowship. We could not consent to suppress what we believe to be truth in the case, but we have never felt at liberty to object to those who do not see it, provided their faith in Christ is otherwise Scriptural. We admit it makes a difference when this error becomes aggressive, as it has recently become. In fact, we cannot now help ourselves. Its refusal of fellowship to those who cannot agree with the error simplifies the situation. We proclaim the truth that God will judge those who are without, as well as those that are within, in the day of Christ, where His will is known. If separation is forced upon us by those who do not believe this, we can but accept it, without presuming to say what the Lord will think of those who not only limit his jurisdiction, 192 but condemn those who recognise, and always have recognised, its fulness. We are aware that this is putting it too tenderly for some. It is not tenderness for the error, but the tenderness of uncertainty as to whether it is such an error as will exclude believers in Christ from life eternal. It is not like some errors that have struck, in time past, at the very foundations of faith.—ED. The brethren in Tottenville, New York (U.S.A.), send a letter in answer to some published remarks which we have not seen. Probably the object of these brethren will be served by the following extracts from the last letter of the correspondence between brother Williams and the editor of the Christadelphian. The correspondence has been published as a supplement to the Advocate, but this particular letter does not appear. Probably it came to hand too late for inclusion. It was dated September 1st. “A new situation has created new difficulties; a reserved and doubtful attitude has been changed into a public and aggressive denial of light as the ground of resurrectional responsibility. “The remarks you quote from the Christadelphian were suited to a time when that denial was a doubtful thing. They are not applicable to the situation created by an organised attack. Circumstances always alter cases, as you know. The present difficulty has not been created by me, and if I am forced to appear to take a more definite attitude, it has not been my choice. “The tendency of the new argument is certainly to obscure the just and intelligent character of God. I have not changed in my view that God works by law as you suggest, but I object to any interpretation of His procedure by law which excludes justice. The statement that God does not proceed on the principle of justice is brother Andrew’s own words, for which, if necessary, I can give chapter and verse. His pamphlet is not within my reach at the present moment, and the statement was not made with the sense you suggest, namely, that it is justice without mercy that he was objecting to. This was not the qualification at all. The question was the infliction of punishment. The objection to his view was that it outraged justice by asking us to believe that of two men, one who tried to obey God but failed, was to be punished; while the other, who deliberately chose to set God at defiance altogether, would escape. This difficulty is not one of my creation; in fact none of them are, they have been forced upon us. I had a prolonged correspondence with brother Andrew before the matter became public, and I have reason to sorrowfully know the accuracy of all my statements. How little they are due to ‘perverseness,’ you will one day perhaps recognise. “It is not Christ’s actions that are imputed to us. The righteousness imputed without works is the righteousness of faith, as you will perceive by the study of Paul’s arguments. Abraham is an illustration of the point. He believed God, and it (his belief) was accounted to him for righteousness; that is, his belief of God was reckoned as a righteous thing, and so says Paul it will be imputed to us also. God forgiving our sins for Christ’s sake, and reckoning our faith as righteousness, is a different thing from the irrational suggestion of works being imputed to us that we never performed. We are justified without works in this sense, that as sinners no works of ours could ever have reclaimed us from the alienation of natural extraction and wickedness of character. The method appointed is the method of grace or favour, which excludes boasting. At the same time, it leaves intact the noble truth that our justification is an affair of the forgiveness of our sins, and recognising us in a new light because of our faith; and providing for us an opportunity of working out our salvation by overt compliance with the will of God. This is the wholesome doctrine which has been set aside by orthodox religion, and which is in distinct danger from the new doctrine. “That new doctrine teaches that the rebel who refuses baptism is safe from the resurrection punishment of his rebellion: while the rebel who does render that amount of obedience exposes himself to punishment thereby. This is not ‘my way of putting it,’ but the simple teaching of the new doctrine. The enormity of such doctrine may be covered by verbal palliations, but it is there all the same. 193 “We are saved by being forgiven, and not by having Christ’s righteousness imputed to us. Christ acquired eternal life in his own right. Our permitted partnership with him gives us inheritance with him if he see fit at the judgment seat, which is an affair of our works. The idea of being saved ‘by the merits of our blessed Redeemer’ is the demoralising thought of the old theology from which we have been delivered. Only ‘to him that overcometh’ will salvation be given. This is probation. If we walk after the Spirit, we shall be saved, not otherwise. There would be no room for this truth if Christ’s righteousness were imputed to us. “You say you cannot understand what has befallen me: this must be because you have never properly understood me. These Scriptural discriminations have been present with me from the beginning. The views now being agitated are the superficial thoughts of orthodox religion. Notwithstanding your impression to the contrary, I am where I have always been. The extract you make from Twelve Lectures on the ‘Robe of Righteousness’ is the somewhat juvenile utterance of 35 years ago; but though crude and figurative in form, it expresses the doctrine I now hold. The robe of righteousness as a figure literally means investiture with the name of Christ as a condition of forgiveness, and the recognition of our faith as righteousness in contrast to the righteousness of the law, of which Paul deprecatingly speaks. “It is not I who have made this question a test, but brother Andrew, and if his tactics have forced a more definite attitude on me, it may be that in this I am coerced into a course of duty not before sufficiently recognised. It is a serious thing to take away the terrors of the gospel from those knowingly rejecting it. I forgive your suggestion that I am inconsistent and guilty of respect of persons. I suppose it appears so to you. If you knew the ‘counsels of the heart’ you would speak otherwise. “If you truly accepted the proposition that light brings responsibility, you would not restrict it to the antediluvian world. It cannot be so restricted. The question of responsibility is always a question of light and privilege. To whom much is given, of them shall much be required. Gospel light brings resurrectional responsibility. If you admit this, there is no difficulty, but this is what is denied, and this is the root of the present trouble. It has never been a question of the time of punishment with me, but of the fact, though I think the question of the time becomes clear with study. The new contention denies the fact; it teaches that out-and-out rebels are to be allowed to slumber unpunished, while those who are partially obedient are to be raised for punishment. If it try to get out of the enormity by saying the out-and-out rebels are punished now, then we have the untrue doctrine of Eliphaz that God dispenses His retributions to the wicked in this life. “Your allegation that I am wrong, inconsistent, and unjust, is made in a manner that leads me to suppose you sincerely think so. What can I do but wait the Divine verdict? If I deny your insinuation and think the reverse of my course, it may be that I am right. “You refer to the conversation we had eight years ago in a way that I cannot recognise as reflecting its true character. It was a conversation on the question itself, and not on how the question should be treated, and the result of the conversation was so doubtful that sister Roberts, who was present, was for a long time under the idea that you had yielded to the argument that I had brought to bear. Possibly the thing impressed you differently from what it did us, but from our point of view, you make a mistake in speaking of it as if it were a compact to shelve or ignore the difference. Do not understand me as imputing blame to you in the way you regard it, but I think it necessary to indicate this much of demur.”—R. R. The Christadelphian, 1897, p. 33-34 Brother C. C. Walker, of Birmingham, endorses the foregoing. He thinks we ought not to countenance any doctrine which obscures or weakens the moral claims of the Gospel upon those who come within sound of its hearing. 194 The Editor cannot add anything to what he said last month, except that he may have erred in the leniency with which he has acted in reference to this departure from truth. He would be very easy to lead into an energetic course if he could be sure of the Lord’s approbation in the matter. Job’s friends held wrong views on cognate questions. Yet the Lord only made them apologise through Job, “lest.” as he said, “I deal with you after your folly.” He did not command Job to have nothing to do with them. It would be a terrible thing to have discarded those whom the Lord might accept. The errorists in this case have discarded us: is not this enough? It seems so. But we would take any course in which duty was clear. We had no hesitation as to Inspiration, because the doctrine propounded was a blasphemy against the Scriptures, and undermining of the very foundation of all hope and godliness. And we had no hesitation about Renunciationism, because it was a blotting-out of the principle on which God invites our approach—for worship now and salvation afterwards. We had no hesitation about the denial of the judgment for life or death at the coming of the Lord, because that was both an express negation of a testified element of the Gospel, and a weakening of the power of the Gospel to chasten and purify in godly fear. We had no hesitation as to Dowieism, which was an emasculation and corrupting and clouding-out of sight of the whole counsel of God: but this—an excess of zeal for the “keeping” of the “sanctuary” : an over-refinement of logical wool-spinning—well, it would be troublesome in our midst, and obstructive of true progress in holiness and fear and joy and love. But it has taken itself away; why need we pass judgment on that which in an ecclesial sense has already condemned itself? Such are the cloudy in-workings of the moment. Perhaps the atmospheric fogs will settle, and allow the sun to shine and the brethren to get out for that ‘walk together in the bonds of love and peace.’ which is the normal shape of things under the law of Christ.—EDITOR. The Christadelphian, 1897, p. 78 The question begins to appear in a more serious light as it comes to be considered thoroughly in all its bearings.—ED The Christadelphian, 1898, p 40 MILNSBRIDGE.—Armitage Road, 2.30 and 6.0 p.m.—Our ecclesia have felt it necessary to define its position on the Responsibility Question. On December 1st, we unanimously adopted the following resolution:— “That it is our earnest conviction that a knowledge of God’s revealed will (irrespective of submission to it) is the ground of responsibility to the judgment seat of Christ at his second appearing, as taught by Christ and his apostles. This being so, we feel it to be our duty to withhold fellowship from any who believe the contrary. Neither can we fellowship any who are in doubt on the matter, and who therefore have not yet arrived at the same conviction as ourselves. We shall also feel it to be our duty to refrain from fellowship with any who, while believing as we do, yet, by their fellowship, tolerate those who believe otherwise.” —G. WILDE. Parting Words from Campbellism By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1865, p. 113 (Excerpt) Sixthly.—Campbellism in prescribing the verbal confession that Jesus Christ is the Son of God as the test of Christian fellowship without requiring an understanding of that confession, is anti-apostolic, as 195 the apostles demanded intelligence as the basis of all confessions. “Understandest thou what thou readest?” said Philip to the eunuch, before pronouncing him fit for induction into Christ. “In understanding be men” says Paul (1. Cor. 14:20.) “Filled with all wisdom and understanding, ” is the condition of spiritual manhood indicated in Col. 1:9, and repeated more emphatically in the second chapter as “the full assurance of understanding, ” “the eyes of the understanding being enlightened,” in contrast to the “understanding darkened” spoken of by Paul in Ephes. 1:18, 4:18. Now we submit that no one can intelligently confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God who does not first understand the proposition that “Jesus is the Christ;” and we further submit that no one can confess Jesus to be the Christ without understanding the import or purpose of his Christing or Anointing, which embraces, as we hope to demonstrate, his mission first, as a Sin covering; second, as a Prophet; third, as a Priest; fourth, as a Man of War; and fifth, as a Victorious King, ruling on the throne of David as universal Lord. For Campbellism then to be content with the simple iteration of the words “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God,” is to deceive itself and to practice a damning deception upon all who are guided by it. Withdrawal, and When By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1873, p. 332-333 J.G.T.—It is a rule in the interpretation of all consistent documents, that no construction is to be put on one part that destroys the sense of another. If this rule is ever to be applied, surely it is in the understanding of Paul. Now, though Paul has said “Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? To his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden-up; for God is able to make him to stand”—(Rom. 14:4). We are not to understand his words in a sense that would forbid us to obey his commandment two chapters further on, in the same letter, where, describing a certain class, he says “Avoid them” (Romans 16:13), and again (1 Cor. 5:68), “Put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” (See also 2 Thess. 3:16; 1 Tim. 6:3–5; Titus 3:10; 2 John 9–10.) Paul, in Rom. 14:4, is not inconsistent with Paul in these other places. Paul, in Rom. 14:4, as the context shews, has before his mind an obedient servant of Christ, who has a weakness on the subject of herbs versus animal food, on which we have no guidance by the law of Christ. In such a matter, “judgment” by fellow-believers would obviously be presumptuous. It is an “untaught” matter; and we have no authority to be wise above what is written. Let those who have a weakness for a particular sort of food be indulged in brotherly love. But the case is very different when a brother walks in open disobedience of what is commanded. But the question of participation in worldly pic-nics and stock-speculations depends so greatly upon the circumstances of the case, (which can only be known to those on the spot,) that it is not possible to express a valuable opinion as to their incompatibility or otherwise with continuance of fellowship. Generally speaking, “pic-nics” of unbelievers are unfit occasions for the presence and countenance of saints; and a robust and hearty saint would have no difficulty in deciding against all of them; but it would be hard to say (without actual knowledge) that in all cases, a brother was acting unworthily of the high calling in participating in them. So much depends upon the character of the occasion. We could conceive the possibility of such an occasion being turned to good account by wise men, in friendly intercourse on divine things with friends in the open field. We fear there are not many pic-nics where this occurs. Nevertheless, it is hard to draw the line. Wise men will judge each case on its merits. So in stock speculations. As a rule, it is a kind of a business in which an honest man would not feel at liberty to engage; but there may be cases where it may be but legitimate enterprise with promise of good fruit. Hard and fast lines cannot be laid down in such matters. True saints will always take care to be on the 196 right side. Withdrawal ought not to take place until disobedience is beyond doubt, and until every endeavour has been exhausted to bring the disobedient to reformation. The Apocalypse on the Question of Fellowship By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1897, p. 467-468 This question is raised by dissensions in some quarters leading to division. An ecclesia tolerates wrong teaching: a few men of understanding cannot bear it, and retire. Those who remain think the matter unimportant and are inclined to find fault with the others as sticklers. How stands the matter? When a professed brother avows the belief that the visions of the Apocalypse have no application to the accomplished history of Europe but are of a future significance, he raises a question of more serious moment than may at first sight be apparent. A man confessing ignorance of the meaning of the Apocalypse is a man who might grow in knowledge, and therefore a man to be borne with and helped; but a man denying its meaning is a man to be antagonised on the following serious grounds: Over a dozen times, it is written in the Apocalypse: “He that hath ears, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.” Jesus says, “My sheep hear my voice.” He identifies the Apocalypse with his voice in saying in it: “I, Jesus have mine angel to testify these things in the churches” (Rev. 22:16). Thus the Apocalypse is an important part of the Shepherd’s voice which Jesus says the sheep will hear. He goes further than this. He says “If any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life” (verse 19). On the other hand, he says “Blessed is he that readeth and they that hear the words of this prophecy and keep those things that are written therein.” Among the “words of the book of this prophecy” is a heavy warning against participation with a system described under the symbol of a beast and his image: “If any man worship the beast and his image and receive his mark on his forehead, or on his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation.” Now, if these things relate to institutions now current among men (which they undoubtedly do, as can be and has been many times shown), how serious is the doctrine which would say they do not relate to anything now upon earth, but to something in some future age with which we have nothing to do. Such a doctrine, where received, would prevent a man from “hearing what the Spirit saith unto the churches”: it would prevent him from “keeping those things which are written in this book”; and worse than all, it would practically cause him to “take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,” since to take away the meaning is to take away the words in making them of none effect. It is impossible, therefore, to agree with those who would make light of the subject, and it is impossible not to sympathise with faithful men who cannot remain in any community where such nullifying doctrines are tolerated.—ED. Answers to Correspondents (The Apocalypse and the Obedience of Faith) By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1872, p. 380-381 W. D.—A correct interpretation of the Apocalypse is of more importance than may at first sight appear. 1. It was given “that his servants MIGHT KNOW” (Chap. 1:1.) the things it treats of; and if a wrong view of it prevails, the object of its communication is to that extent frustrated. 2. The Spirit pronounces a 197 blessing on those who understand it, (chap. 1:3.) from which it follows that a wrong apprehension of its import deprives the wrong apprehender of the blessing. 3. Jesus pronounces a curse on those who take away from its words (Chap. 22:19.); and no one takes away from its words more effectually than the man who misrepresents its meaning. That misrepresentation of its meaning which asserts its inapplicability to the present constitution of things in the world, and teaches that it has no fulfilment till the saints are removed at the coming of Christ, is especially mischievous in its effects; for it interferes with a scriptural attitude in relation to things and systems which are therein condemned, and participation in which is declared to implicate the participators in the doom awaiting them. The ecclesiastical systems and practices of Europe are exhibited under symbols perfectly intelligible to the student of God’s word. A beast and its image, a ten-horned monster and a woman are introduced as representatives of the constitution of things in Papal Europe, and a peculiarity of the saints therein described is that they “worship not the beast neither his image, nor receive his mark upon their foreheads nor in their hands (20:4.), that they “obtain the victory over the beast and over his image and over the number of his name” (15:2); that unlike those dwelling on earth “whose names are not written in the book of life,” and who worship the beast who makes war upon the saints, they “keep the sayings of the prophecy of this book,” which declare, “If any man worship the beast and his image and receive his mark in his forehead or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God.” Now, if you regard the whole matter as future to the Lord’s coming, do you not loosen and undermine the terrible obligations arising from these sayings? Certainly; you place these obligations beyond the circle of a saint’s duties, and leave him at liberty to imagine that he may safely take part with any system extant in his own day. Of course, you are at liberty, in this day of liberty, to think and act as you will: but such views are a serious impediment to the co-operation which you are disposed to ask on the part of the Christadelphians. They could not admit such an element of corruption among them. They could not identify themselves with so complete a neutralization of the last message of Jesus sent to his servants. They could not make themselves responsible for such a departure from his testimony which he himself has fenced with special imprecations. Your belief in the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, “the same as the Christadelphians,” may justify you in being immersed; but with such a state of mind with regard to the important directions he has given for the guidance of his servants in the Apocalypse, it is impossible they could enter upon that co-operation which has for its basis an intelligent apprehension of the mind and will of Christ. The idea that “Revelations” is future in its fulfilment, would be dispelled by the effectual realization of one or two points which we mention by way of conclusion. The angel interpreting to John the meaning of the seven heads of the scarlet-coloured beast, says 17:10: There are seven kings: five are fallen, one is, and the other is not yet come.” Here is a proof that in the day when these words were addressed to John—nearly 1800 years ago—part of the symbolism had been realised in history. In connection with its developments (chap. 11:18) “the time of the dead comes that they should be judged,” which is inconsistent with the theory that those developments do not take place till after the resurrection of the saints. A similar argument arises in the fact that the beast makes war upon the saints and overcomes them.—(13:7.) Surely this is not after the saints are raised from the dead! So also with the fact that saints, under the sixth seal, are seen in a state of death, and allowed to rest (6:9); that the scarlet woman is drunk with the blood of saints. (Surely she is not to kill them after they are made immortal.) “In her was found the blood of prophets and saints.”—(18:24.) The apostles were slain by her (Rome under the pagan constitution.)—(18:20.) Surely the apostles are not to be killed a second time. In addition to these and many other points that might be mentioned, the general character of the book as to things said about to “shortly come to pass,” and as to keeping the things written in the book, conclusively shows the fallacy of a theory which futurizes everything except the messages to the churches, and reduces it to a thing of practical consequence whatever. 198 Sunday Morning at the Christadelphian Synagogue. – No. 51 By bro. Robert Roberts The Christadelphian, 1874, p. 65-69 (Excerpt) “Exhort one another daily.”—PAUL. At the same time, it is always possible, as at Corinth, to come together, “not for the better but for the worse.” We must guard against this by the avoidance of those conditions that lead to such a result. A want of unity is fatal to edification. Union without unity is worse than worthless; it is pernicious; it tends to frustrate the objects of fellowship. The ecclesia is not the place at all for discussing the principles of the one faith. That belongs altogether to the outside. The plea of looking at both sides is plausible and looks candid, but it belongs only to those who are uncertain of the faith; and uncertainty is no feature of the full assurance of faith, whithout which it is impossible to please God. It is all very well for those who do not know the truth to talk in such a style; such are in no state to form constituents of a community whose function is to be the ‘pillar and ground of the truth.” Agreement in the things of the Spirit is the first condition of ecclesial unity. The unity of the Spirit may be kept in the bond of peace; but the schism of the Spirit—disagreement in the things of the Spirit—renders peace impossible. Those who are indifferent can easily afford to ignore disagreement; and preach cordially of the virtue of “agreeing to differ.” This is no characteristic of the church of the living God. It contends for the faith once delivered to the saints, and obeys Paul’s command (1 Tim. 6:5) to “turn away” from the perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds. The first characteristic of true saintship is zeal for the things of God. He is not content to cultivate friendship on the basis of adhesiveness or any other merely fleshly instinct. He stands “in God:” God’s ways and principles are the rule of his life, the measure of his aspirations, the standard of his friendship, the foundation of all his doings. The Laodicean attitude of indifference—the readiness to agree to differ within the precincts of the ecclesia—is impossible with him. He must have the faith first pure, knowing that peace will follow, and from peace, edification, and the growth in every good thing that shall prepare the brethren for the coming of the Lord. A contrary condition produces every evil work. Unity in the Spirit will admit of growth to the stature of the perfect man in Christ. It will help us to dwell together in love and hope, striving together for the faith of the gospel, abounding in the whole work of the Lord with thanksgiving. Let us obey implicitly the advice of Paul, who counsels abstinence from strifes of words, foolish questions and contentions, which he declares to be “unprofitable and vain.”—(Tit. 3:9.) “Charge them before the Lord,” he says, “that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subversion of the hearers . . . Shun profane and vain babblings.”—(2 Tim. 2:14–16.) He instructed Titus to “AFFIRM CONSTANTLY” that believers should be careful to maintain good works, which were to their profit.—(Tit. 3:8.) Leaving perverse, uncandid, evasive and Jesuitical disputers, then, to themselves, let us be diligent in every good work, against the impending day of account, relieving the afflicted, comforting the saints in their tribulations, leading sinners into the way of justification and eternal life. These good works wither before the hot blast of contention, strife, backbiting and vain glory; and by these, men, running well for awhile, are destroyed. Let us take heed, and show ourselves men of God, whose seed “remaineth in them;” who cannot be moved away from the path of duty or the hope of the gospel by the wildest storms that may come; who stand stoutly, in their particular day and relations, in the position described by Habakkuk: “Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines: the labour of the olive shall fail and the fields shall yield no meat: the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls, yet will I rejoice in the Lord, I will joy in the God of my salvation.”—(3:17) 199 The standing aim of this class is to be approved of God, however much they may incur the opprobrium of men. Men work one way; the children of God another. God’s opinion of the ways of men is clearly and abundantly recorded. This record they “read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest.” They eschew the selfishness rebuked by Haggai, who was commanded by the Spirit to say to the men of Israel, “Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your ceiled houses, and My house lie waste? . . . My house is waste, and ye run every man into his own house.”—(1:4, 9.) There is no stone-and-mortar house of God to attend to; but there is another house—the house of God, the pillar and ground of the truth, whose condition is that of wasteness, and to which we are called to attend in priority to our own affairs. If we are of God, we feel not at liberty to do as the men of Israel did, and as the world around does, to look after our own affairs, and see ourselves comfortably established without regard to the desolate state of the house of God. While God is a pilgrim in the earth, His sons are not content to be dwellers in the tents of sin. While Jerusalem and her children are in affliction, they aim not to seek their ease. They have a heart to feel for the down-trodden house of Christ, and on its upbuilding their best exertions are bestowed. They give not to the Lord the refuse, and fag end, and superfluity. They have noticed the lesson of Mal. 1:6, 14 “A son honoureth his father and a servant his master. If, then, I be a Father, where is Mine honour? If I be a Master, where is My fear? Saith the Lord of Hosts, unto you, O priests, that despise My name. Ye say, Wherein have we despised Thy name? Ye offer polluted bread upon Mine altar, and ye say, Wherein have we polluted Thee? In that ye say, The table of the Lord is contemptible? If ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? And if ye offer the lame and the sick, is it not evil? Offer it now unto thy governor: will he be pleased with thee or accept thy person? saith the Lord of Hosts. Cursed be the deceiver that hath in his flock a male, and voweth and sacrificeth unto the Lord, a corrupt thing. For I am a great King, saith the Lord of Hosts, and My name is dreadful among the heathen.” These principles apply in the truth. Wise men will have them in remembrance, honouring the Lord with their substance; sowing bountifully, that they may reap bountifully; that in the day about to dawn, they may not be of those who will be rejected, for a faithless use of the “few things” now entrusted to their care. Thoughts And Thoughts.—No. 2 By bro. L. B. Welch. The Christadelphian, 1892, p. 325-328 THERE is a right and a wrong side to all things. A controversy presupposes that the parties to it have defined their respective positions on the question in controversy; otherwise, there can be no true controversy. The opponents may all be on the wrong side of the question but they cannot all be on the right side and still be opponents; for, if they still claim to be opponents, they cannot and do not understand the position of one another, or else some at least are mere praters of things they do not understand. An objector or faultfinder to the teachings of another, who claims that the teaching is wrong, is unworthy of notice till he defines his own position on what he conceives to be the right side of the question. The most ignorant, puffed up with conceit, may object to and find fault with the teachings of others, since to merely object or find fault without defining one’s own position, requires neither wisdom nor judgment, Such persons may and often do find fault with the Lord Himself, and oft delight themselves with picking flaws and pointing out contradictions and all manner of errors in the Word of the Most High God. No one who has not positive knowledge to the contrary has a right to condemn the sayings of others as false sayings; for to do so is bad taste and worse judgment. No doubt there be those in the household of faith, who, from a want of full knowledge of the truth or from other causes, are prone to misjudge the positive teachings of others; calling them dogmatisms, when they are the truthful sayings of a full assurance of faith resting upon a full and well-grounded knowledge of the truth. In fact, the truth itself is dogmatic, because it is from God who alone has the right to be dogmatic; and any saying of another that is according to the truth is simply the dogmatism of 200 the truth, and not the dogmatism of the person making it. A teaching involving the truth and not positive (or dogmatic) in the statement of it, presupposes an uncertain knowledge of the matter on the part of the person from whom the teaching comes. A teacher who is faithful to the truth will, in all his teachings, use words of no uncertain sound, and positive words, even though the ignorant may accuse him of dogmatism. Wisdom is justified of her children. Search the Scriptures and see if the thoughts in this paragraph are in harmony with the truth; and, if so, then search thine own heart and see if thou art in harmony therewith. A true child of God receives and rejoices in the truth, though it comes to him through the weakest brother in the Lord’s household; but the envious are continually finding fault, and save their rejoicings for their own work. An humble and honest heart before the Lord rejoices greatly in the progress of a brother in his attainments in the truth, even though he may himself be outstripped in the race for eternal life. The truth can only beget and bring forth love and obedience in and from the heart, if permitted to do its perfect work. If envy, backbiting, malice, slander, reproach, fault-finding, be the fruit brought forth from the heart, it is not the fruit of the truth, and the truth has not had its perfect work in that heart. If a brother or a sister have faith in an untaught matter that does not conflict with revealed truth, let them have it to themselves that the peace and harmony of the ecclesia may not be disturbed. False views may abide in an ecclesia under concealment, but no ecclesia can harbour them when once they become known, or are open, without becoming a partaker therewith. The Lord is the cleanser of His own household, it is true, but it is in the matter of secret sins and doctrines, and personal character, since the ecclesia must purge itself of open sins whether in doctrine or practice; for, if the ecclesia fails to purge itself thereof, it is living in sin before the Lord. Whoever seeth his brother walking in sinful ways and hideth the matter in his heart, hath sin lying at the door of his own heart. The character formed in this life must be in complete harmony with the order of things in the eternal world, else unalloyed love and joy and peace could not fill the heart and mind in the presence of a pure God. The Lord looks at the heart, and the heart that is right in His sight can rejoice before Him; for “a broken and contrite heart the Lord will not despise,” since He “looks to him who is poor and of a contrite spirit and trembleth at His word.” There can be no contrition of heart where chastisement is not patiently borne and evil ways forsaken. Whoever rebels at the chastisements of the Lord may well tremble when called to the judgment of His household. There can be no ecclesial peace where purity does not precede the peace. There can be no ecclesial purity where the bond of love does not bind every heart with sound doctrine and fellowship. “When the judgments of the Lord are in the earth, then will the inhabitants of the world learn righteousness;” and the judgments that bring righteousness to the inhabitants of the earth are those of the Seventh Vial. If each one looks into his heart as mirrored by God’s truth, he will know how he stands before the Lord, and can draw comfort and hope or fear and shame from the revelation. “Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.” God can be seen by those only who are Spirit; for to Spirit nature only is His face unveiled, since no other can behold His face and live. “Many be called but few chosen.” “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” These are words of terrible import, and stand in a special and close relation to each other in the two sayings, one from Christ Jesus and the other from Paul. When the two sayings are carefully weighed, the reason why few are chosen stands out in fearful distinctness, causing one to tremble. The call has gone forth in the gospel of the Kingdom of God, or “the things concerning the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ.” All who accept the call become, by their obedience of it, the called as contradistinguished from those who do not accept the call from whatever cause. At this point all the called stand alike. It is from this point on that the line begins to be drawn between the first and last clause of the saying that “Many be called but few chosen.” The line is drawn by one class of the called observing, and the other class not observing, the second Scripture saying of “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” The choice or rejection of the called will depend upon which side of the line they will stand in the day of account. “But few chosen”! Words of fearful and ominous import. Well might the Apostle, by the spirit of 201 God, say: “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” Were it not because of what He further adds to those words, the hearts of the called would be heavy and sorrowful, and faint of hope indeed of being among the few chosen. But bless the Lord for the saying: “For it is God that worketh in you to will and do of His own good pleasure.” In whom does the Lord work to will and do of His own good pleasure? Those of the called in whose hearts the love of God dwells in all richness unto good works. Those who are walking in the truth with a humble heart. Those who do the works of the truth “without murmurings and disputings, as blameless sons of God . . . . holding forth the word of life.” The rich fruits of the truth that dwells in the hearts of the called brought forth in walk and conversation before God and in the midst of a crooked and perverse people is God working in them to will and do after His own good pleasure! All such have good hope of being among the few chosen. “But few chosen”! Some might feel disposed to say: “Those are cruel words.” No: they are merciful words, words of great caution. They are words that will cause the truly honest and humble of heart to bring a greater zeal to bear in working out their salvation with fear and trembling. Let us therefore tremble at those words, and seek the more earnestly to work out our salvation through works of righteousness wrought in Christ Jesus, our Lord and Merciful High Priest, who maketh intercession for us before the Father in whose grace we stand through the obedience of faith. Brethren, those of us who are parents, with what great love do we cherish our little ones; yet our love for them is very small in comparison with the love of God for His children. He knows our weak nature, and when we do wrong He corrects us by His chastisements. To those of His children who are striving to keep His commandments, to walk in His way, how unspeakably great must be His compassion, His tender mercy towards His erring children who turn from their sins and seek His forgiveness with a broken and contrite heart? Yea, we can have no conception of it; and herein is our heart comforted in hope of His mercy through Christ Jesus in the day when He shall choose His children from among the called. If you or I be not chosen, brother or sister, it will not be God’s fault, but our own; and we can therefore have no ground of complaint against a loving Father whose mercy is over all, and whose love gathers in all who are of “a broken and contrite heart and who tremble at His word.” “Many be called but few chosen.” Brethren, those are fearful words. Let us tremble at them, and the more earnestly seek to “make our calling and election sure.” “God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things that are mighty; and base things of the world, and things that are despised, hath God chosen, and things that are not, to bring to nought things that are.” Why has He done so? In order “that no flesh should glory in His presence.” If the foolish (unlearned) and the base (of no honour, of low degree) and the despised of the world are chosen, whence then their wisdom, and wherein is God glorified in and through them? Ah, brethren, just here is the supreme wisdom of God. He is the wisdom of His chosen ones. He is their strength, their righteousness, their sanctification, their redemption, through Christ Jesus. Their glory is of the Lord, and from their low estate, their weakness, and their despised position among the wise and the mighty of this world, He will raise them up and give them an honour and glory and nobility and wisdom and power such as the great ones of this world have not known and never can know. It is therefore all of God and not of man. Out of weakness does the Lord propose to bring strength; out of foolishness does He propose to bring wisdom; out of poverty does He propose to bring riches. It is by the offerings of His people, out of their pinching poverty, that the Lord has proposed to and does carry on His work in the earth till the day of His great power is manifested to the nations in judgments such as will sweep from existence the wisdom and power and greatness of the high ones of this world. To His people His truth is their wisdom, their strength, their honour and glory, their power, their riches, their salvation, and in it they rejoice with exceeding great joy in every circumstance of persecution, suffering, trial, want, and tribulation, pressing on to “the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.” How is it with so-called Christendom? The high, the mighty, the honourable, the wise (worldly wise), and the rich are found in 202 and swelling the ranks of the world and ecclesiasticism to repletion. Ah, truly, the Lord is not in their midst, nor hath He chosen them for the work He is doing in the earth in the matter of taking out a people for His name, of taking out of the nations kings and priests for His Kingdom of the Future Age. Let us murmur not at our poverty, brethren, nor at trials and persecutions and every tribulation, but rather let us rejoice that the Lord hath given us an honest heart and a believing mind, and withheld from us much riches in which are many snares. This is the day of little things, and low and despised things in the Lord’s household; the day of great things is yet to come. Let us with patience wait for it. “All nations shall serve him” (Nebuchadnezzar). There is more in those words than a mere servitude of all nations to Nebuchadnezzar. They are words of deeper meaning. The giving of all nations into Nebuchadnezzar’s hand was the beginning of “the kingdom of men,” or “the times of the Gentiles,” as bearing upon prophetic time periods of the Scriptures. All nations were to serve Nebuchadnezzar, for the Lord had given them into his hand. Even His own nation was not excepted from the servitude to Nebuchadnezzar. This was the beginning of a new era with the nations, from which dates the seven times period of Gentile dominion. This seven times period to the nations is truly a dwelling with the beasts of the field; for truly, in relation to their end, they do not rise above the beasts, since death and destruction feed upon all alike. Being in ignorance, without understanding of the truth, they are “like the beasts that perish.” As a type of this condition of the nations under Gentile dominion, Nebuchadnezzar was dethroned of reason and made to dwell with the beasts of the field till seven times passed over his head. Of a truth all nations are dwelling with the beasts of the field, and will continue to so dwell till their seven times have run their full measure; after which the Lord will take them in hand, and give to them reason that they may honour and praise and glorify Him to whom honour glory, dominion and power alone belong. The work of bringing the nations to reason, and teaching them to honour and glorify God, is no small or light matter. Only by judgments inflicted upon them can it be done. This will require much time. Of course, the Lord could do it at once by an exercise of miraculous power, but He does not work that way in developing obedient nations. He has not worked that way in developing kings and priests in His Kingdom, and He will not work that way in bringing the nations to reason and teaching them and developing in them an obedient spirit to honour and glorify Him as the Creator of all things, King over all nations, and their Benefactor and Saviour. This work will all be done in a way that will seem natural to the nations, so that the faith and obedience of the saved nations will not stand upon the foundation of a suddenly-developed growth, but a gradual growth throughout the period of the Lord’s judgments in conquest of the nations. This will take time, even years, as the Scriptures tell us, and as the types of the Lord’s past work plainly show. The Lord is never in a hurry, and sudden destruction of a people or nation occurs only when the Lord’s preparatory work is completed and has led to the final judgment of a sudden destruction. Clearly “the times of the Gentiles” have nearly run their full measure, and the time for calling the Lord’s household and the nations to judgment is close at hand. Oh, that judgment of the household! who will abide it, and become constituents of the Mighty “Rain-bowed Angel” who metes out the Lord’s judgments upon the kingdoms of this world and takes them unto Himself for an everlasting possession? Oh, the long and terrible judgments of the nations! Who among the nations will abide them and be able to enter into the blessedness promised in Abraham and his seed? A time of terrible woe to the unfaithful and the nations is near at hand. Oh, that we may all be safe in the incorruption of Spirit nature in the day of that terrible woe! “Why Four Gospels?” I have read brother Harvey’s article. It is good. His answer to the question has in it all the elements of a strong probability. It is the most reasonable of all the reasons given for the necessity of four Gospels. It is an explanation in complete harmony with Scripture typical and symbolical teaching. It is an explanation that must strongly arrest the thoughtful reflecting mind. It is an explanation that brings out in beautiful and strong relief the special features of each of the four gospels, and does away with the many laboured “harmonies” of the Gospels, showing why no two of them could be exactly 203 alike, but that all taken together are a complete unity of the four-square encampment of the Israel of God, initiated in the Personal Christ, and completed in the Mystical Christ. My faith is strong that brother Harvey has given us the right answer to the oft-repeated question: “Why Four Gospels?” Truly, the more one looks into the Bible from the standpoint of a knowledge of the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Name and searches among its rich treasures, the stronger does his faith become that it is of a verity the infallible Word of the living God. The search among its types and symbols makes old features of the truth grow brighter and brighter, and brings to view new phases of the truth in rich profusion; yet, with all we may do in that direction, we are simply adding a polish to the jewel of Truth mined from the mountain of error by Dr. Thomas, where tradition had buried it. Fellowship By Albert Anderson Herald of the Future Age, 1847, p. 215 "That which was from the beginning, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands bare handled of the Word of Life ; (for the life was manifested, and we have seen (it,) and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal Life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us ;) that which we have seen and heard, declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us; and truly, our fellowship (is) with the Father, and with his son Jesus Christ." Thus writes one of the Apostles, showing the true ground and importance of Christian fellowship, or partnership. We ought, therefore, to understand the things declared by the Apostles, in order to the enjoyment of society with them, and with the Father, and his Son Jesus Christ. Let us attend to a primitive and a well instructed disciple, expressing himself very emphatically and summarily, with reference to the same things. Thus he writes: "Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, even as they delivered them unto us, who from the beginning were eye-witnesses, and ministers of the Word; it seems good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, that thou mightest know the certainty of those things wherein thou hast been instructed." From this passage of Luke, in connexion with his account of the things, testified concerning the Kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ,—it is clearly of vast importance, that we labor for a perfect understanding of all things as from the first, as things delivered by eye-witnesses, and ministers of the Word. It is this perfect understanding, which is symbolically styled, light, and in which, when we walk, we have fellowship with God. "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God, is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth; but if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanseth us from all sin." The Apostles, and the Holy Spirit and the Father, all witness concerning Jesus, all have partnership or society in him and with all his. Now, in view of these high and holy associations, can they, who enjoy them, get their own consent to pollute such associations by seeking communion with darkness? Let us hear an Apostle, on this point, speaking thus: "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers, for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness ? And what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the Temple of God with idols? for ye are the Temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, &c." Surely, with these promises, we must advocate purity, individually and congregationally. Indeed, the apostle says: "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty." Truly, such as have obeyed 204 this injunction, are placed under the highest obligations to avoid all corruptions, and to contend, with all fidelity and boldness, for the faith, as formerly delivered to the Saints. It is not the approbation of any number of uninspired men, although called a church or congregation, which satisfies the enlightened man. He seeks the approbation of the High and Holy One, whether in regard to individuals or to congregations. It is evident, that the first congregations were composed of individuals, who had all submitted to baptism for the remission of sins, in obedience to the Gospel of the Kingdom, divinely authorized. Even John the Baptist, preached the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. And certainly the Apostles were plain upon this point, as exemplified in Peter on the day of Pentecost. It is of the greatest importance to build according to divine injunction. If I have received that which was from the beginning, as reported by the witnesses and the ministers of the Word, I am in society with the most illustrious personages in the universe. Shall I mingle myself with congregations or collections of men and women, partly purified and partly not purified, some of them not having obeyed ? Are they not all defiled? The wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable; God is pure, and he will not dwell with the impure. I would, ten thousand times, rather be in society with the few purified ones, than with the many impure ones. It is the truth obeyed, which makes pure; let us then persevere in the doctrine of Jesus and know the truth and be purified or freed from sin by it. Let us study all the truth, in the scriptures of inspiration, as being profitable, or able to profit, in doctrine, in conviction, in correction, in instruction, or training in righteousness. When fully enlightened by these sacred studies, we shall in the ratio of this light, enjoy fellowship, or society with all the enlightened sons of God, and with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. We shall then joyfully wait for the hope, which is predicated upon the righteousness by faith. We shall contemplate the future, as rendered unspeakably resplendent with the glory of God, in the kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ. Thus we shall be animated and strengthened unto all patience and all long suffering, and shall conquer through him, who has loved us, and more than conquered,—being made stronger than all enemies,—and shall obtain a triumph in honor of being conquerors,—and enter abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I am, I humbly trust, one of the sons of that liberty, with which Christ makes his people free,—the liberty of the truth. Brethren, let us do or die. Caroline, Va., 1847. Ecclesial Fellowship By bro. F. G. Jannaway The Christadelphian, 1892, p. 59-63, 99-103 The following argumentative conversation arose out of a private verbal discussion between W. and F. as to whether a particular doctrine had to be believed before immersion, and as a condition of fellowship. W. seemed distressed at the idea of separation on a single doctrine (while agreed on all others), and groundlessly charged the Christadelphians with teaching that all brethren out of fellowship with them were practically regarded as without hope; hence F. replied that W. should keep in mind the proposition stated below, and which proposition called forth the discussion that follows thereon. All the paragraphs headed “W” are the very words of the essay written by W., and which essay has been divided into sections so that the arguments contained therein might be the more thoroughly dealt with. PROPOSITION TO BE REMEMBERED 205 “That in many cases we have to refuse fellowship to those we hope to see accepted by and bye through the mercy of God, but that it would not be Scriptural to allow this hope to be the ground of fellowship; otherwise, fellowship would vary with the amount of hope a man possessed.” 1. W.—I cannot agree to remember this, as I have never learned it. The only book I rely upon for my ideas of fellowship is the Bible, and I find nothing in its pages requiring any such thing. . . . I only hope to see men in the Kingdom when I believe there is some possibility of them being there; and when I could see no reason for hoping, there I should refuse fellowship, but nowhere else. . . . . It is a principle that I have plainly taught in the meetings, and my teaching has never been challenged. I take the liberty of enclosing an address that I once delivered upon the subject. 2. F.—The real drift of a theory is seldom gathered from an address that is read. Perhaps this is the reason your teaching was not challenged, for your address contains ideas totally subversive of the unity of the faith which Christ’s brethren have to maintain. Your contention that in fellowshipping others we incur no responsibility for their actions or beliefs is quite opposed to Bible teaching, and some of your admissions will help to make such manifest. 3. W.—Search the Scriptures and measure all I have said by the rule you will find there, and if you find any discrepancy, discard it and shew me where I am wrong. 4. F.—Just so; that is our intention, but we would ask you to confine yourself to points on which you are at issue with us, as there are many statements in your essay which we do not question, and therefore to repeat them will only unnecessarily occupy time. Now for your first complaint. 5. W.—I believe fellowship is a subject that has really received very little consideration, and, consequently, is but imperfectly understood. 6. F.—By whom, yourself or others? 7. W.—I have thought carefully and long upon what I am about to lay before you. 8. F.—So you mean it is your brethren who are ignorant on the matter! What leads you to that conclusion? 9. W.—Is is a significant fact, that among the voluminous literature that has sprung into existence dealing with almost every phrase of the Truth, the doctrine of fellowship has been given little or no place. 10. F.—But that is no evidence that the subject has not been carefully thought out by the brethren. Speaking of the ecclesias in London with which we have been connected for nearly 17 years, we can truly say that “fellowship” has repeatedly been most critically discussed, as much if not more so, than any other doctrine. But further, your assertion respecting our literature is not true. The doctrine alluded to has been given a large place, by bro. Roberts, in the pages of the “Christadelphian,” especially so when false brethren have introduced heresy into our midst. So that what you ought to have said was—“Not having heard or read much on the subject, I have concluded that little or nothing has been said or written thereon, and that all others are no better informed than myself.” But this way of expressing the fact you will not endorse; for you profess even greater progress than others. This self-confidence is distastefully manifest throughout your address (to wit, your first paragraph—pronoun, first person singular, 13 times). 11. W.—It is now nearly two years since I came to the conclusion that our understanding of the doctrine of fellowship was radically unsound, and since that time, I have been looking for some brother to come forward and instruct us more perfectly upon this subject. 12. F.—Two years looking for instruction! Surely that cannot strike you as a commendable attitude for a servant of Deity. You must have been doing something in the meantime. 13. W.—Meanwhile, the cogitations of my own mind, assisted by the experiences through which our Church has passed, and also by the exchange of thought with other brethren, have compelled me to a conclusion with which I am pleased to know many agree. 206 14. F.—No wonder at your unscriptural conclusions. Your guide has been your “own mind,” assisted by certain “experiences,” and “the thoughts” of others with a similar mind. It looks almost as though you had forgotten that Book wherein alone is to be found infallible guidance which should be used as a “lamp” for our feet and a “guide” for our path, and which Book warns us that “it is not in man to direct his steps.” But there, let us proceed with the subject of fellowship. Go on. 15. W.—First of all, and in order that its bearings may be fully appreciated, it will be better to give some sort of a definition of fellowship as it is generally understood by us. It is usually believed to consist of the act of breaking bread and drinking wine in memory of the death of our Lord, and in recognition of our adoption into the family of God. 16. F.—Nonsense. That “fellowship consists of this act” is not usually believed by us. In fact, you are the only person we ever heard had such an idea, and a moment’s reflection will make manifest your error; for if fellowship “consists of this act,” then fellowship only exists between those who have actually met together, and thus we should have no fellowship with our brethren abroad. You must know we do not so believe or teach. We also have fellowship with God and with Christ without the act of breaking of bread (see I. John 1–3). We would recommend you to again read paragraph 10, and reflect on the moral. 17. W.—It is usually believed that in this act of fellowship we bid God-speed to all with whom we partake of the sacrificial emblems. 18. F.—True, we do so believe, and when you give reasons for believing otherwise, we will deal with such and give you testimony to support our belief. We shall also have something to say of our belief that breaking of bread is simply an act of fellowship, and not its sum total. But go on. 19. W.—It is usually believed that we involve ourselves in the responsibility of errors of belief that may be held by them or unrighteous conduct that they may practise. 20. F.—True also; provided (a) that the errors affect first principles; (b) that the unrighteous conduct had not been repented of, and (c) that we are cognisant of such errors of belief and conduct. 21. W.—And we have refused to break bread with brethren, whose faith we know to be identically our own, because they are not prepared to disconnect themselves from others who hold an error of belief upon some point or other. 22. F.—If by “some point or other,” you mean errors referred to in paragraph 20, we are justified in so refusing, and the grounds for such refusal will be manifest as we proceed with our arguments. 23. W.—Our fear has been that the responsibility of error would be transmitted to us through the medium of one, who had himself become subject to that responsibility through the act of fellowship. 24. F.—What do you mean by “responsibility transmitted?” 25. W.—To make myself clear by using a simile that has been quoted before to convey the same thought—that evil either of faith or practice is conveyed from one to another by the act of breaking bread, much in the same way as uncleanness was conveyed from the leper, through another who came into personal contact with him, to a third person, a fourth, and so on. 26. F.—Then your understanding of the matter is not correct. As to responsibility being transmitted through mediums, we have never held any such idea. A man is only responsible for his own errors (and quite enough too). We believe that if he knowingly fellowships false teachers, he is responsible for so doing, but that is a very different thing to having the particular evil of such teachers transmitted to him. By careful reading, you will observe that “knowing” was an important element in the law to which you refer. (Lev. 5:3.) 27. W.—Now if this principle be a true one, it——— 28. F.—But we have not contended it is, and, therefore, there is no need to speculate as to where it leads, or what the results may be of the application of such principle. 29. W.—It has led to the severing of the brotherhood. 30. F.—As the principle has no existence with us, it cannot lead us to anything. What has led to the severance of the brotherhood is the fact of certain ones bringing into its midst ideas contrary to sound 207 doctrine (1 Tim. 1:10) thus causing division, which has been ended by the earnest contenders of the Faith withdrawing themselves (2 Thess. 3:6), marking those who have been the cause of the division (Rom. 16:17). 31. W.—It is continually troubling us with questions of an aggravating character that prevents us occupying our whole time in building ourselves up in the Faith. 32. F.—Surely you fail to recognise what is included in that “building up.” A “scamping” builder is not particular as to what material he uses. A wise builder uses only that which will meet with the architect’s approval. And so a faithful workman in assisting to build up the Spiritual temple (2 Cor. 6:16) will scrupulously avoid compromising the work by using what he believes the Divine Architect does not approve of. The work is not ours but His and must be done according to His specifications. Wind and water-proof (Matt. 7:24–29). As to the disastrous effect a little bad material will have on even a large building, you will do well to read 1 Cor. 5:1–11, and such like testimony. 33. W.—We spend too much time in considering whom we ought to admit to be in faithful service to Christ. 34. F.—In view of your circumscribed ideas of “building up,” we cannot wonder that you think so. 35. W.—And leave too little time to do our own faithfully and well. 36. F.—We have already seen that to be faithful needs our doing what you condemn. 37. W.—The way out of this difficulty we believe to be through an acknowledgment that this doctrine of fellowship just mentioned (which is responsible for such a lamentable state of things) is a false doctrine. 38. F.—As we are in no difficulty, we have no occasion to seek for a way out. In your desire to avoid unpleasantness, you would purchase peace at the expense of purity. Christ will not countenance this. He would prefer that sword separate father from son than that such a price should be paid. Yea, he predicted that such should be the case (Matt. 10:34–35). When trouble arises, through faithfulness to the doctrines of Christ, it would be an easy “way out of the difficulty” to conclude that the doctrines were false, and thus (but only for the present) avoid a “lamentable state of things.” But, says the Bible, “In all things consider the end.” A wise man will do so, always bearing in mind “that through much tribulation we must enter the kingdom.” 39. W.—Actions which have been made upon its basis are steps in the wrong direction, that have brought us into a position that is altogether unjustifiable, and must be displeasing in the sight of God. But it is not enough that we should say this. We must show that this doctrine of fellowship is unscriptural, and also what the Bible really does teach upon the subject. 40. F.—Hear, hear. 41. W.—The word fellowship occurs 17 times in the Bible. 42. F.—Well. 43. W.—But not in one instance is it used as meaning the act of breaking of bread. 44. F.—That is denying what is not affirmed. The converse is what we believe, viz., that breaking of bread is fellowship, one of the highest forms of it in fact; but this is a very different thing from what you are opposing. If you affirmed that an oak was a noble tree, and we began to show you that all noble trees were not oaks, you would conclude that we were ignorant of the most elementary logic. Your denial is on a par with this illustration. 45. W. — The original word translated fellowship is given in a lexicon as “companionship, agreement, or communion.” 46. F.—That is just how we understand it, provided the idea of “distribution” is combined therewith; in fact, the Greek word had been so rendered in 2 Cor. 9:13. This goes to show the permeating character of fellowship. 47. W.—In Acts 2:41–42, we are told “there were added unto the Church about 3,000 souls, and they continued steadfastly in the apostle’s doctrine, and in fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in 208 prayers.” This, of itself, is sufficient to show that fellowship is not breaking of bread, for the two things are separately spoken of. 48. F.—Quite so. The converse of your statement is what we impugn. 49. W.—And are as distinct as the two others mentioned—the apostles’ doctrine and prayers. 50. F.—In a sense, yes; but from the Bible point of view, they cannot be separated. They stand or fall together. True fellowship, like true charity, comprises many items, but consists in no individual one. (Cor. 1:13). 51. W.—In the tenth chapter of Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians, we are taught the true distinction between the breaking of bread and fellowship, for the apostle plainly declares that the one is the representation or acknowledgment of the other. 52. F.—Quite true; and you will do well to note and bear in mind the two admissions involved in your statement; (a), that we must not separate the breaking of bread from the fellowship which “it represents;” and (b), that when we break bread it is “an acknowledgment” that fellowship exists. 53. W.—The 20th verse confirms this idea, for he wrote that “the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God, and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.” 54. F.—That completely overthrows your contention that we do not involve ourselves in the errors (of belief or practice) of those with whom we partake of the sacrificial emblems. Here Paul distinctly counsels them not to fellowship devils by eating and drinking to them. 55. W.—But they could not break bread and drink wine with devils. 56. F.—Just so, and therefore the way in which these Corinthians could fellowship devils was by breaking bread and drinking wine with those who believed in the devils, and in that manner they would involve themselves in the errors of devil worshippers. Thus it is plain from Paul, that to fellowship anything does not necessitate personal communion. A profession of agreement with their votaries is allsufficient, and such profession you have already admitted is found in the “breaking of bread” (see paragraph 51). Moreover, Paul in the chapter to which you refer — (1 Cor. 10:18.) — plainly declares that those who eat do thereby “fellowship.” (The text reads “partakes,” but the original is the same as translated, “fellowship,” in verse 20). 57. W.—In the second letter to the Corinthians, 8:4, we have the word fellowship used with apparently a still different meaning. Writing of the churches of Macedonia, Paul said—“To their power I bear record—yea, and beyond their power—they were willing of themselves; praying us with much entreaty that we would receive the gift and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.” Here a certain office or capacity appears to be spoken of. . . . . It is manifest that the ordinance of breaking bread can have no reference to Paul’s words. 58. F.—If you would but recognise that breaking of bread is but one of many forms of fellowship, these passages would all become plain to you. The word in the text you quote is, as we have already said, rendered, in verse 13 of the next chapter, “distribution,” which is another form of fellowship among the saints. 59. W.—We have probably adduced sufficient passages to prove the present contention—that the word fellowship, as used in the Scriptures, is not an equivalent of the act of breaking bread. 60. F.—You have not adduced a single passage that proves we are wrong in maintaining that to “break bread, and drink wine,” in remembrance of Christ, is a form of fellowship, by reason of being the acknowledgment of such. 61. W.—We admit that the ordinance instituted by Christ is an acknowledgment, or an outward sign of fellowship, but it is not the thing itself. 62. F.—True, the ordinance of “breaking bread” is not the sum total of fellowship, but, nevertheless, it is “an act of fellowship,” as you (no doubt unwittingly) admit (see paragraphs 18 and 23). Paul’s reasoning with regard to the body, and its many members, forcibly applies to your mode of argument (1 Cor. 12:14). Although the whole body be not simply the eye, or the ear, yet both form portions of the 209 body, and so, though fellowship be not simply “breaking of bread,” or “prayers,” yet both form important elements of it. 63. W.—It is a matter entirely beyond our control, and there is no meaning in our words when we will fellowship this brother, and we will not fellowship another. 64. F.—If your statement is true, then we must deprive the early Christians of any merit in continuing “steadfastly in fellowship” for, according to you, to do otherwise was “beyond their control.” Paul says (Heb. 13:16)—“To do good and communicate (original, “fellowship” as in Acts 2:42) forget not, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.” Your statement teaches that we need no reminding to fellowship, as to do otherwise is “beyond our control;” and for the same reason there can be no sacrifice in the matter, and therefore God is simply well pleased with our doing a thing that we cannot help doing as it is “beyond our control” to do otherwise. 65. W.—Brethren who believe the same Gospel and are working in the service of Christ are in fellowship with each other. 66. F.—True. 67. W.—Their common faith and common labour constitute that fellowship and it cannot exist without them. 68. F.—True, always remembering that such common labour includes “Assembling together” and “eating” of the sacrificial emblems when the circumstances admit of it. 69. W.—We cannot be in agreement with any upon the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ without being in fellowship with them. 70. F.—It would be more scriptural if you used the expression “things concerning the Kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ” (Acts 8:12), and “continue in well-doing” (Rom. 11:7). But perhaps you mean such—if so your statement is true 71. W.—Neither can we be in disagreement upon the essentials of that Gospel and yet be in fellowship. 72. F. — That follows as the logical sequence. 73. W.—We cannot fellowship false doctrine concerning the teaching of the Scriptures without being in agreement with it, and therefore believing it. 74. F.—That is not true; the Scriptures declare we can fellowship false doctrine without believing it. One illustration will suffice. In the chapter already referred to (1 Cor 1:10), we have seen that Paul tells his brethren that those who eat of the sacrifices offered to idols are “partakers” (original same as fellowship in verse 20) of the altar, and therefore fellowship all represented there by, which in this case were demons or idols (for all gods but the true one are idols) Now you have admitted that they did not eat with the idols (paragraph 55) but with their worshippers, and the Corinthian believers knew with Paul that an “idol is nothing in the world” (1 Cor., 8:4); therefore it is clear from Paul’s counsel to them that they could fellowship false doctrine without being believers in it themselves. 75. W.—We cannot fellowship the evil deeds of another without being in agreement with them and doing the same things. 76. F.—The remarks made in paragraph 74 will apply to this—but further; John in his 2nd epistle calls false teaching concerning Christ an “evil deed,” and he says if we bid the man with this false doctrine “God speed,” we become partakers of his evil deeds. It is quite clear he is not referring to those who believed or were doing the same things, for he says it is the bidding him God speed that creates the participation. Now what is meant by “God speed?” Reference to its use in the New Testament soon enlightens us. The word (original) is found 74 times, and while only rendered “God speed” twice, is translated—hail, rejoice, rejoicing, greeting, joy, glad and farewell 72 times—so that evidently the primary meaning is “welcome.” Not to welcome a holder of false doctrine. Not to welcome him where? At our homes or at the table? Why at the table of the Lord, for surely you cannot contend that we ought to welcome a person there when we cannot welcome him at our house. 210 77. W.—The idea of responsibility for the beliefs and doings of others being transferred to us by the breaking of bread is a false idea. 78. F.—Your ideas on this “transference of responsibility” are entirely without foundation, and we would recommend you to study paragraphs 23 to 26. 79. W.—The principle taught throughout the Bible is that declared in Ezekiel’s prophecy, “The soul that sinneth it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father; neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.” 80. F.—Yes, and everytrue Christadelphian heartily endorses that testimony. In no way does it militate against their belief that God will not hold him guiltless who presumes to “hail” or bid “God speed” to those who fail to respect the “holy,” “separate,” or peculiar position to which He calls them. 81. W.—This was said by God in reply to a statement made by the Israelites to the effect that His way is not equal because they believed that the evil doings of an individual should be visited upon another. 82. F.—What then? 83. W.—Let us be careful how we make this same accusation against God. 84. F.—Nay; rather let us refrain from making it at all. The accusation is certainly not to be found in the Christadelphian doctrine of fellowship, one of the principles of which is that each member is responsible to God for the company he keeps. 85. W.—It is as true in the 19th century after Christ’s death as it was five centuries before he was born that “the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.” 86. F.—Yes, quite as true. And that man who bids erroneous teachers and evildoers “God speed” or “joy” by partaking of the emblems with them will not suffer for the “evil deeds” of his companions, but for his own unfaithfulness in holding fellowship where God has forbidden it. 87. W.—There are many other considerations that plainly shew the fallacy of the idea that the breaking of bread is a medium for the transference of evil. 88. F.—No doubt—but such a thing as “transference of evil” is not believed by the Christadelphians, hence there is no need to go into “other considerations.” But while the “breaking of bread” cannot be the medium for the “transference of evil,” it can be the means of making a man an “evildoer” by partaking with evil doers, as we have most clearly proved from the epistles of Paul and John. 89. W.—We constantly see brethren and sisters do things of which we disapprove and would not practise ourselves. We constantly hear of some item of belief that we consider out of harmony with Scripture teaching—but do you think for a moment that we become responsible for those actions and beliefs because we partake of the emblems with those that practise them? 90. F.—Firstly, we again have to deny that any such responsibility is created (see paragraph 26). Secondly, God has allowed liberty in many matters in which conscience must guide us—hence, what is sin to one may not be to another. You yourself have introduced the word “essentials” (paragraph 71), and by that we presume you mean “first principles.” Only errors which multiply those “essentials” or “first principles” should bar our fellowship. 91. W.—If we break bread with a brother whose idea upon some doctrinal subject is different from our own, does that act make us believe the same as he? 92. F.—Of course not. The question is too ridiculous to think you seriously ask it. 93. W.—Then we have no agreement with such belief, and consequently do not fellowship it. 94. F.—You have made that last statement before (paragraph 73), and we have shown the unscriptural character of it (paragraphs 74, 76). 95. W.—If evil be thus transferred, then upon the same principle, the good would also. 96. F.—Certainly; but as “evil” is not transferred, on the same principle “the good” is not. It would be better if you kept to the word “partake” or “fellowship” instead of coining the word “transfer” for us. 211 97. W.—Why should we become partakers of a brother’s sin by breaking bread with him, and not be partakers in another brother’s well-doing by the same means? 98. F.—Just as we “partake” of sin in bidding “God speed” to evil-doers, so we “partake” of good in doing likewise with “well-doers” (Mal. 3:16). 99. W.—If every time we break bread in the same company with a righteous and a wicked brother, we have fellowship with their righteousness and iniquity respectively, then both righteousness and wickedness would be imputed to us as a consequence? 100. F.—With regard to the typical uncleanliness under the law of Moses, created by contact with unclean persons (to which you have referred), it distinctly states, “When he knoweth of it, then he shall be guilty” (Lev. 5:3). In like manner, under Christ’s law, iniquity is not imputed where we unwittingly “sacrifice” or “break bread” with a “wicked brother.” We only, knowingly, fellowship righteous brethren, and therefore only righteousness is imputed to us. 101. W.—John wrote, “Our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.” Now, we read from the same writer that “if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us,” for “all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.” But, although we are all sinners, yet “we have fellowship with the Father and the Son.” Does our fellowship of them involve them in our wickedness? 102. F.—If we are “walking in the light” then the “sin” which we have is not imputed to us, but the righteousness of Christ; and clothed with this garment, we have the fellowship of the Father and Son. Without this garment, they will not permit us to have their fellowship. While we have fellowship with them we “are clean every whit,” and thus there is no wickedness for them to be “involved” in. 103. W.—If responsibility for evil is incurred in the case of our brethren, it is also incurred in the cases of the Father and the Son, and that cannot be put negatively. 104. F.—Are you not reducing God and Christ to your own level? Have you never read that the One forgives through the mediumship of the other? Have you omitted to read the next verse to the one you quote from 1 John 1.?—“If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins.” Bearing this in mind, can you not see that we have fellowship with the Father and Son not as sinners but as children “cleansed from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9), and that therefore, there is no sin for the Father and Son to be involved in, Without this forgiveness, there is no fellowship, and that man is not forgiven who unrepentantly continues in sin and whose fellowship therefore we cannot knowingly entertain without separating ourselves from the fellowship of Father and Son. 105. W.—If the Father and Son are not involved in our wrong doings by the fellowship that we are permitted to have with them—then our brethen are not made responsible for our sins by means of that same fellowship they have with us. 106. F.—Firstly, by our previous arguments, you will see there is no longer wrong doing for them to be involved in; and, secondly, responsibility for other men’s sins we do not believe or teach, but that it is for our own sins in knowingly partaking with unrepentent wrong doers that we are held responsible. 107. W.—These few points, if carefully reflected upon, especially bearing in mind the fact that not a tittle of Scripture evidence arrays itself against them, are sufficient to destroy the idea hitherto held by most of us. 108. F.—It ill becomes you to talk about “Scripture evidence,” for, from beginning to end, you quote but seven texts, and those, be it noted, in a long written address in which you profess to have demonstrated the unscriptural nature of what we contend is a Bulwark of the Unity of the household of Christ. Your quotations are: Lev. 6:2, Ps. 94:20, Acts 2:41, 1 Cor. 10:15, 2 Cor. 8:4, Ezek. 18:4, 2 John. We have shown that these do not help you, but us, and we have amply supported them with other quotations. Your assertion about “not a title of evidence” is on a par with your statement about the “subject being imperfectly understood” (see paragraphs 5–10). 212 109. W.—The idea has gained a place in our minds by being handed from one to another and accepted without examination; and thus it has operated for a considerable time without any feeling called upon to give a reason for it. 110. F.—If the “our minds” consists of your own, we do not object to your assertion, but if you mean the brethren generally, we impugn it, and have already given our reason for so doing. 111. W.—This doctrine has been responsible for most of the awful divisions that have taken place among the brotherhood. 112. F.—But that is no reason, to a student of the Word, for rejecting the doctrine. The beloved Apostle alone informs us of three divisions on account of Christ in the short space of one year (John 7:43; 9:16; 10:19). Christ Himself tells us that obedience to Him would result in division (Luke 12:51). Peter and Paul both speak of Christ as “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offence” (1 Pet. 2:8, Rom. 9:33, 1 Cor. 1:23); and upon one occasion, Christ said even “all” His disciples would be “offended” because of Him (Matt. 26:31). But shall we reject Him because He was the reason for all these divisions? Nay, is it not rather to be expected that as Christ was Himself the “fruitful source” of so many divisions, so His doctrines would also, if faithfully contended for? 113. W.—If we are in agreement upon the subject matter of “The One Faith” and mutually strive to walk in harmony with Christ’s commands—our fellowship remains even though we may not “break bread together” till Christ comes. 114. F.—That is true, provided it is not our fault that we do not break bread with others, such as inability to get to the meetings, etc., but if we refuse to break bread when opportunity occurs, then we are wilfully disobedient and cannot expect the fellowship of God and his faithful children. 115. W.—Do not let me be misunderstood . . . We ought not to acknowledge fellowship where there is no agreement upon fundamental elements of the Gospel of Christ. That is the basis of our fellowship— of our communion. 116. F.—And a Scriptural basis it is, too, but in the statements you have made, you decline to confine your acknowledgment of this fellowship to those who are in agreement on this question, being willing to extend it to those who do not see the need for such agreement on those fundamental elements, and who thereby destroy unity of mind among the ecclesias on this highly important doctrine of fellowship. 117. W.—If there be agreement among ourselves and others upon the ground of our faith and companionship in our efforts to conform to the spirit of God’s commands, then we ought to be glad and willing to acknowledge the fellowship. 118. F.—Yes, if! but there is no such agreement if you acknowledge fellowship with those who, while believing with you on the “essentials,” are nevertheless willing to acknowledge fellowship with others who do not see the need for having the same mind on those doctrines. 119. W.—Don’t let us think that perfection of agreement is requisite upon all sorts of recondite matters in connection with the truth in order to the establishment of the fellowship of the Gospel. 120. F.—You must know we have never so believed, and therefore such a remark is not creditable to you. 121. W.—Those things that God has plainly declared are necessary before a man can be truly baptised into Christ are the only essentials of fellowship, and there can be no fellowship without them. 122. F.—True, and that must be the gauge or test to be applied not only to those with whom we personally acknowledge fellowship, but also to those who are acknowledged by them, and so on. 123. W.—Where they are believed and observed, fellowship is established, whether we recognise it or not. 124. F.—Believed and observed! True. 125. W.—It behoves us to act towards each other as we would have Jehovah act towards us. 126. F.—Yes, provided no command of God is thereby violated, for in some cases faithfulness prohibits us so acting. 213 127. W.—He admits men into His fellowship who are not perfect. 128. F.—That is not true. Only those clothed in His Son’s righteousness (and therefore perfect in him) are so admitted. 129. W.—Not one of us dare say that many brethren who are denied the privilege of sitting with us at the Lord’s table are not the adopted children of God even as we. 130. F.—And neither do we so say, but there are faithful and unfaithful children, and connivance at, or condonation of, unfaithfulness is not permissible. 131. W.—Not one of us dare assert that they are less worthy of the divine approval, or that they are not admitted into the fellowship of the Father and Son. 152. F.—And we have no desire to make such assertions. We leave Christ to do the asserting. We simply say we believe you are dishonouring God and His Son by partaking with those who do not maintain the Unity of the Faith or do not recognise the essentiality of entire separation from the isms of the world, and we decline to participate in unfaithfulness by receiving your fellowship. 133. W.—I say again that there is only one way in which we can fellowship iniquitous conduct, and that is by practising the same things or conniving at their practise. 134. F.—Yes, but you have simply given us such “say,” while we have clearly proved from the Bible that this “say” is unscriptural. 135. W.—Let us require no more on the part of others before we will recognise the fellowship that actually does exist between us, whether we consent or not; let us require no more of them than we are ready to render ourselves. 136. F.—If that means anything at all, it means that you believe we are those “who say and do not” (Matt. 23:3), in fact, “whited sepulchres, hypocrites” (Matt. 23:27). In making such grave charges (by implication or innuendo), it would be as well if you kept yourself to a pronoun of the first person singular instead of plural, as you have proved yourself incompetent to speak for the brethren generally. 137. W.—On the one hand let us continue to refuse to break bread with all who hold not the truth as it is in Jesus. 138. F.—Good. But then you decline to insist on like conditions throughout the brotherhood generally with whom you are in fellowship, maintaining that you are in no way involved in the errors of those whom you may so recognise in fellowship. The logical result can be but one—and that is, you will be compelled to throw in your lot with a community that permits acknowledgment of fellowship with those who do not admit the absolute essentiality of those doctrines you now believe to be fundamental, and your alleged unity of faith will go to the winds and be destroyed by unsound principles. 139. W.—Let us cease to think so much of the responsibility for the actions of others that cannot belong to us. 140. F.—It will be more scriptural to cease to talk in that way and begin to remember “He that biddeth him God-speed is a partaker of his evil deeds” (2 John 11). To remember also that Christ threatened the early Churches for keeping in the Church evil thinkers and evil doers (Rev. 2:14, 15), while not charging them with personally believing or doing the same things. 141. W.—Let us spend less time in the unnecessary carefulness to keep ourselves immaculate from the blemishes of others by reason of touching but the border of their garments. 142. F.—A smart sentence: but it is sad to hear it from one who has known the truth. In reply we will simply give you a few texts to think over and which some day you may see inculcate the carefulness you now condemn: Rom. 16:17; 1 Cor. 5:6; 15:33; 2 Cor. 6:14, 17; Eph. 5:7, 11; 2 Thess. 3:6; 1 Tim. 5:22; Rev. 18:4. 143. W.—Let us take greater care to keep our own garments unspotted from the world. 144. F.—To do this effectually, we must attend to the counsel given in the texts just quoted. 145. W.—Christ came into direct contact with worldly filth enough, but it did not adhere to his own robe of righteousness. 214 146. F.—Aye! but although “in the world,” he was not “of the world.” He had “no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reproved them” (Phil. 5:11). We are counselled to “follow his steps” (1 Pet. 2:21). 147. W.—In conclusion . . . If you conclude that the principle I advocate is true, and is taught in the Scriptures, then accept it as you would all divine truth, and let us together act in accordance with the truth we have found, and rejoice to be delivered from the most fruitful sources of disagreement, difficulty and disunion we have ever experienced. 148. F.—But we do not so “conclude,” for the simple reason that the Scriptures do not so teach— therefore we cannot act in accordance, nor rejoice in deliverance from a difficult situation which is of our Heavenly Father’s good providence. FRANK G. JANNAWAY. London, November, 1891. 215 216 Lessons From Ecclesiastical History 217 218 John Lawrence Von Mosheim Mosheim, Institutes of Ecclesiastical History, vol. 1, p. 72 Mosheim, Institutes of Ecclesiastical History, vol. 1, p. 116 219 Mosheim, Institutes of Ecclesiastical History, vol. 1, p. 117 220 The Organization of the Early Christian Churches Edwin Hatch 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247