- Department of Theoretical Physics UMCS
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- Department of Theoretical Physics UMCS
Nuclear Mean-Field Hamiltonians and Their Spectroscopic Predictive Power Jerzy DUDEK Department of Subatomic Research, CNRS/IN2 P3 and University of Strasbourg, F-67037 Strasbourg, FRANCE 25th September 2009 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power COLLABORATORS: Karolina RYBAK, DRS Strasbourg Bartlomiej SZPAK, IFJ Kraków Marie-Geneviève PORQUET, CSNSM Orsay Hervé MOLIQUE, DRS Strasbourg Bogdan FORNAL, IFJ Kraków Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance Part I Mean-Field Hamiltonian - New Ways of Thinking Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About this Particular Project: What? and Why? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About this Particular Project: What? and Why? • We assume that the Nuclear Mean-Field Theory will remain one of the fundamental nuclear-physics tools for a while Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About this Particular Project: What? and Why? • We assume that the Nuclear Mean-Field Theory will remain one of the fundamental nuclear-physics tools for a while • Existing developments, especially the Relativistic Mean-Field (explicit link with particle physics) and Density Functionals (Kohn-Sham theorem, its potentialities in nuclear physics) do represent the best we can and should do at present Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About this Particular Project: What? and Why? • We assume that the Nuclear Mean-Field Theory will remain one of the fundamental nuclear-physics tools for a while • Existing developments, especially the Relativistic Mean-Field (explicit link with particle physics) and Density Functionals (Kohn-Sham theorem, its potentialities in nuclear physics) do represent the best we can and should do at present • Possibilities of extrapolations to unknown, extreme isospin areas remain, using the mildest formulation, unsatisfactory Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About this Particular Project: What? and Why? • We assume that the Nuclear Mean-Field Theory will remain one of the fundamental nuclear-physics tools for a while • Existing developments, especially the Relativistic Mean-Field (explicit link with particle physics) and Density Functionals (Kohn-Sham theorem, its potentialities in nuclear physics) do represent the best we can and should do at present • Possibilities of extrapolations to unknown, extreme isospin areas remain, using the mildest formulation, unsatisfactory • Questions of statistical significance of the theory modeling the most basic questions asked in other domains of research are seldom - if ever - posed. This will be our subject today. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About the Goals and New Technical Means Subjects behind the Title and Exotic-Nuclei Physics Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About the Goals and New Technical Means Subjects behind the Title and Exotic-Nuclei Physics • Shells, Spherical Gaps, Shell Evolution with Isospin etc. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About the Goals and New Technical Means Subjects behind the Title and Exotic-Nuclei Physics • Shells, Spherical Gaps, Shell Evolution with Isospin etc. • Nuclear Central, Spin-Orbit and Tensor Mean-Fields Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About the Goals and New Technical Means Subjects behind the Title and Exotic-Nuclei Physics • Shells, Spherical Gaps, Shell Evolution with Isospin etc. • Nuclear Central, Spin-Orbit and Tensor Mean-Fields • The Concept and Properties of Theoretical Errors etc. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance About the Goals and New Technical Means Subjects behind the Title and Exotic-Nuclei Physics • Shells, Spherical Gaps, Shell Evolution with Isospin etc. • Nuclear Central, Spin-Orbit and Tensor Mean-Fields • The Concept and Properties of Theoretical Errors etc. • The Concept of Predictive Power of the Nuclear M-F Hamiltonians, Mathematical Criteria and Precision etc. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Introduction: Defining the Physics Problem Consider a mean-field Hamiltonian: RMF, HF, Phenomenological ... Hmf = Hmf (r̂, p̂, ŝ; {p}); {p} → parameters After laborious constructions of Hmf , we often get terribly exhausted and forget that: Parameter determination is a noble, mathematically sophisticated procedure based on the statistical theories often more involved than the physical problems under study! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Introduction: Defining the Physics Problem Consider a mean-field Hamiltonian: RMF, HF, Phenomenological ... Hmf = Hmf (r̂, p̂, ŝ; {p}); {p} → parameters After laborious constructions of Hmf , we often get terribly exhausted and forget that: Parameter determination is a noble, mathematically sophisticated procedure based on the statistical theories often more involved than the physical problems under study! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Introduction: Defining the Physics Problem Consider a mean-field Hamiltonian: RMF, HF, Phenomenological ... Hmf = Hmf (r̂, p̂, ŝ; {p}); {p} → parameters After laborious constructions of Hmf , we often get terribly exhausted and forget that: Parameter determination is a noble, mathematically sophisticated procedure based on the statistical theories often more involved than the physical problems under study! • In their introduction to the chapter ‘Modeling of Data’, the authors of ‘Numerical Recipes” (p. 651), observe with sarcasme: ”Unfortunately, many practitioners of parameter estimation never proceed beyond determining the numerical values of the parameter fit. They deem a fit acceptable if a graph of data and model ‘l o o k s g o o d’. This approach is known as chi-by-the-eye. Luckily, its practitioners get what they deserve” [i.e.: what is ment is a nonsense] Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance Experimental SP Levels - Traditional Treatment The single-particle levels of doubly-magic spherical nuclei can be used to extract Hamiltonian parameters P Ĥ = k λk ĥk Z Usually the Hamiltonian parameters are fitted ... 132 90 40 16 Ca 56 Ni 48 Ca 208 Pb Sn Zr O N Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance Experimental SP Levels - Traditional Treatment The single-particle levels of doubly-magic spherical nuclei can be used to extract Hamiltonian parameters P Ĥ = k λk ĥk Z Usually the Hamiltonian parameters are fitted ... 132 90 40 16 Ca 56 Ni 48 Ca 208 Pb Sn Zr ... using the chi−by−the−eye "principle" O N Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions Suppose, we know the theoretical levels for a number of pre-studied nuclei - together with the theoretical uncertainties . Z 208 132 48 Pb Sn Ca N . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions Suppose, we wish to study a so far unknown nucleus (Z , N) by using the information coming from the known fits (known Hamiltonians) . Z 208 132 48 Pb Sn (Z,N) Ca N . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions From one of the nuclei we obtain the theoretical predictions of the single particle energies - together with the uncertainty distributions . Z Pb 208 132 48 Pb Sn (Z,N) Ca N . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions ... and similarly from the other one we obtain theoretical predictions of the single particle energies - with their uncertainty distributions . Z Sn 208 132 48 Pb Sn (Z,N) Ca N . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions If the results are consistent within uncertainties, the predictions can be considered ’valid within statistics’, otherwise: improve exp. input . Z Extrapolated from: Pb 208 132 48 Sn Pb Sn (Z,N) Ca N . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Theory, Experiment, Experimental Data Bases Even a theorist can produce an experimental single-particle energy on his or her computer Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Theory, Experiment, Experimental Data Bases Even a theorist can produce an experimental single-particle energy on his or her computer Illustrative examples follow → Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Example of an Analysis: Neutron States in Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France 91 Zr Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Example of an Analysis: Neutron States in • We consider the reaction 90 Zr Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France 91 Zr (~d, p) 91 Zr , with polarised d-beam Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Example of an Analysis: Neutron States in • We consider the reaction 90 Zr 91 Zr (~d, p) 91 Zr , with polarised d-beam • We observe peaks in the proton spectrum corresponding to each |jmi state populated in 91 Zr Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Example of an Analysis: Neutron States in • We consider the reaction 90 Zr 91 Zr (~d, p) 91 Zr , with polarised d-beam • We observe peaks in the proton spectrum corresponding to each |jmi state populated in 91 Zr • Angular distributions from the measured proton spectrum allow to deduce the associated proton orbital momenta ` - and through conservation - possible orbital momenta of the odd neutron in 91 Zr Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Example of an Analysis: Neutron States in • We consider the reaction 90 Zr 91 Zr (~d, p) 91 Zr , with polarised d-beam • We observe peaks in the proton spectrum corresponding to each |jmi state populated in 91 Zr • Angular distributions from the measured proton spectrum allow to deduce the associated proton orbital momenta ` - and through conservation - possible orbital momenta of the odd neutron in 91 Zr • From polarisation of the deuterons we deduce the orientation of intrinsic spins s with respect to orbital momentum ` → we deduce j Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Example of an Analysis: Neutron States in • We consider the reaction 90 Zr 91 Zr (~d, p) 91 Zr , with polarised d-beam • We observe peaks in the proton spectrum corresponding to each |jmi state populated in 91 Zr • Angular distributions from the measured proton spectrum allow to deduce the associated proton orbital momenta ` - and through conservation - possible orbital momenta of the odd neutron in 91 Zr • From polarisation of the deuterons we deduce the orientation of intrinsic spins s with respect to orbital momentum ` → we deduce j • To summarise: Such an experiment provides ` ↔ parity, j and, with an extra effort, the spectroscopic factors Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Using NNDC Data to Obtain Neutron States in Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France 91 Zr Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Using NNDC Data to Obtain Neutron States in 91 Zr • From Audi et al., Nucl. Phys. A729 (2003) 345, we find that: Neutron separation from Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France 91 Zr: Sn = 7194.5 keV Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Using NNDC Data to Obtain Neutron States in 91 Zr • From Audi et al., Nucl. Phys. A729 (2003) 345, we find that: Neutron separation from 91 Zr: • In NNDC, we select 91 Zr and next the known information about the Sn = 7194.5 keV 90 Zr (pol d,p), and we obtain Orbitals above N=50: νd5/2 , νs1/2 , νg7/2 , νd3/2 , νh11/2 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Using NNDC Data to Obtain Neutron States in 91 Zr • From Audi et al., Nucl. Phys. A729 (2003) 345, we find that: Neutron separation from 91 Zr: • In NNDC, we select 91 Zr and next the known information about the Sn = 7194.5 keV 90 Zr (pol d,p), and we obtain Orbitals above N=50: νd5/2 , νs1/2 , νg7/2 , νd3/2 , νh11/2 • The first example - the data for states 5/2+ : E1 = 0 keV with S1 = 1.09 and E2 = 1244 keV with S2 = 0.032 hE i = (E1 × S1 + E2 × S2 )/(S1 + S2 ) = 42 keV Ed5/2 = −Sn + hEi = (−7194.5 + 43) keV = −7152.5 keV Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance Using NNDC Data to Obtain Neutron States in 91 Zr • Another example: the data for states 3/2+ : E1 E2 E3 E4 E2 hEi = P i = 2042 = 2871 = 3083 = 3290 = 3681 keV keV keV keV keV with with with with with P Ei × Si / i Si S1 S1 S1 S1 S1 = 0.78 = 0.08 = 0.16 = 0.22 = 0.16 →→→→ hE i = 2592 keV Ed3/2 = −Sn + hE i = (−7194.5 + 2592) keV = −4602.5 keV Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments 1. Paradoxally, the so-called experimental mean-field single-particle levels are highly complicated, model-dependent objects Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments 1. Paradoxally, the so-called experimental mean-field single-particle levels are highly complicated, model-dependent objects 2. They depend, among others, on the spectroscopic factors, defined in the presence of simplifying assumptions in the reaction theory; the latter may complicate the self-control through the sum rule tests Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments 1. Paradoxally, the so-called experimental mean-field single-particle levels are highly complicated, model-dependent objects 2. They depend, among others, on the spectroscopic factors, defined in the presence of simplifying assumptions in the reaction theory; the latter may complicate the self-control through the sum rule tests 3. Many levels need to be measured (including collectivity) to extract ‘reliably’ one, average energy, interpreted as exp. s. p. energy Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments 1. Paradoxally, the so-called experimental mean-field single-particle levels are highly complicated, model-dependent objects 2. They depend, among others, on the spectroscopic factors, defined in the presence of simplifying assumptions in the reaction theory; the latter may complicate the self-control through the sum rule tests 3. Many levels need to be measured (including collectivity) to extract ‘reliably’ one, average energy, interpreted as exp. s. p. energy 4. To obtain reliable results, attention should be payed to measuring all the j π states that contribute significantly to the average Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments 1. Paradoxally, the so-called experimental mean-field single-particle levels are highly complicated, model-dependent objects 2. They depend, among others, on the spectroscopic factors, defined in the presence of simplifying assumptions in the reaction theory; the latter may complicate the self-control through the sum rule tests 3. Many levels need to be measured (including collectivity) to extract ‘reliably’ one, average energy, interpreted as exp. s. p. energy 4. To obtain reliable results, attention should be payed to measuring all the j π states that contribute significantly to the average 5. Vibration-coupling corrections can be measured and one should aim at subtracting them (alternatively: include in the theory)! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments (II) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments (II) 1. Probably the most powerful way of obtaining ’spherical levels’ is to use the information about the axially-deformed odd-A nuclei (‘band-heads’); our primary goal is to combine the ’spherical’ and ’deformed’ level information Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments (II) 1. Probably the most powerful way of obtaining ’spherical levels’ is to use the information about the axially-deformed odd-A nuclei (‘band-heads’); our primary goal is to combine the ’spherical’ and ’deformed’ level information 2. This is by the way how the ’Universal’ Woods-Saxon parameters were fitted Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments (II) 1. Probably the most powerful way of obtaining ’spherical levels’ is to use the information about the axially-deformed odd-A nuclei (‘band-heads’); our primary goal is to combine the ’spherical’ and ’deformed’ level information 2. This is by the way how the ’Universal’ Woods-Saxon parameters were fitted 3. There are many ways of loosing the predicitve power, the way we defined it, of the mean-field hamiltonians: one of the most powerful ways of doing so is to use experimental nuclear masses... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental Single Particle States: Comments (II) 1. Probably the most powerful way of obtaining ’spherical levels’ is to use the information about the axially-deformed odd-A nuclei (‘band-heads’); our primary goal is to combine the ’spherical’ and ’deformed’ level information 2. This is by the way how the ’Universal’ Woods-Saxon parameters were fitted 3. There are many ways of loosing the predicitve power, the way we defined it, of the mean-field hamiltonians: one of the most powerful ways of doing so is to use experimental nuclear masses... 4. ... at least the way it has been practiced so far ... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions Experimental levels represent, from both quantum-mechanical and experimental points of view an ensemble of probability distributions . Single Particle Energies (Experimental, Schematic) |jlm> 1 |jlm> 2 |jlm> 3 Uncertainty Distributions . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions These uncertainties propagate to the parameters-solutions p1 , p2 ... implying that the latter turn into distributions . Implied Uncertainties of Adjusted Parameters Single Particle Energies (Experimental, Schematic) |jlm> 1 |jlm> 2 |jlm> 3 Uncertainty Distributions . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions These uncertainties propagate to the parameters-solutions p1 , p2 ... implying that the latter turn into distributions . Implied Uncertainties of Adjusted Parameters Single Particle Energies (Experimental, Schematic) |jlm> 1 p1 p2 |jlm> 2 |jlm> 3 p 3 Uncertainty Distributions . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions As it turns out, even small uncertainties on some experimental levels may cause very large uncertainties on the adjusted parameters ... . Implied Uncertainties of Adjusted Parameters Single Particle Energies (Experimental, Schematic) |jlm> 1 p1 p2 |jlm> 2 |jlm> 3 p 3 Uncertainty Distributions . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions ... while at the same time big uncertainties on other levels have a small impact: as in life, all are equal but some more than the others . Implied Uncertainties of Adjusted Parameters Single Particle Energies (Experimental, Schematic) |jlm> 1 |jlm> 2 p1 |jlm> 3 p2 p 3 Uncertainty Distributions . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Experimental SP Levels as Uncertainty Distributions Conclusion: the quality of adjustement depends strongly on the quality of the data implying the existence of theoretical error bars . Implied Uncertainties of Adjusted Parameters Single Particle Energies (Experimental, Schematic) |jlm> 1 p1 p2 |jlm> 2 p1 |jlm> 3 p 3 p2 p 3 Uncertainty Distributions . Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Inverse Problem and Nuclear Mean-Field Theory • Starting from a limited experimental data set {eexp µ } we wish to obtain the information about all of the single particle levels Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Inverse Problem and Nuclear Mean-Field Theory • Starting from a limited experimental data set {eexp µ } we wish to obtain the information about all of the single particle levels • In Applied Mathematics this is called the ‘Inverse Problem’ Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Inverse Problem and Nuclear Mean-Field Theory • Starting from a limited experimental data set {eexp µ } we wish to obtain the information about all of the single particle levels • In Applied Mathematics this is called the ‘Inverse Problem’ • The mathematical formulation is the same as e.g. when optimizing the position of mines from limited number of drilling Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 1. Posing the Problem of Statistical Insignificance 1.1 Inconsequences of the Past & How to Do It Better 1.1 Constructing Experimental Single-Particle Energies Inverse Problem and Nuclear Mean-Field Theory • Starting from a limited experimental data set {eexp µ } we wish to obtain the information about all of the single particle levels • In Applied Mathematics this is called the ‘Inverse Problem’ • The mathematical formulation is the same as e.g. when optimizing the position of mines from limited number of drilling • The goal of these mathematical theories is to optimize the chances of meaningful predictions or: provide us with the full ‘statistical significance of predicted result’ Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment Part II Exact Techniques Involving Mean-Field Hamiltonians - Instructive New Tools Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies About this Particular Project: What? and How? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies About this Particular Project: What? and How? • Here we limit our considerations to the simplest but realistic mean field approaches and focus on the single-particle spectra Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies About this Particular Project: What? and How? • Here we limit our considerations to the simplest but realistic mean field approaches and focus on the single-particle spectra • We introduce the notion of Exact Reference Hamiltonians decribing the present experimental status with full precision Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies About this Particular Project: What? and How? • Here we limit our considerations to the simplest but realistic mean field approaches and focus on the single-particle spectra • We introduce the notion of Exact Reference Hamiltonians decribing the present experimental status with full precision • Having introduced the exact-model Hamiltonians we study them using the standard tools such as the ‘input noise’, error distributions etc. that propagate to the final result Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies About this Particular Project: What? and How? • Here we limit our considerations to the simplest but realistic mean field approaches and focus on the single-particle spectra • We introduce the notion of Exact Reference Hamiltonians decribing the present experimental status with full precision • Having introduced the exact-model Hamiltonians we study them using the standard tools such as the ‘input noise’, error distributions etc. that propagate to the final result • We arrive at the final-result certitude distributions: In other words, if the mathematics is done correctly, we not only give the theoretical result but also provide its statistical significance Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Selection of Nuclei and Test Model-Hamiltonians Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Selection of Nuclei and Test Model-Hamiltonians • We will be interested in extracting today’s single-nucleon energies in the so-called well-known doubly-magic spherical-nuclei: 16 O, 40 Ca, 48 Ca, 56 Ni, 90 Zr, 132 Sn Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France and 208 Pb Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Selection of Nuclei and Test Model-Hamiltonians • We will be interested in extracting today’s single-nucleon energies in the so-called well-known doubly-magic spherical-nuclei: 16 O, 40 Ca, 48 Ca, 56 Ni, 90 Zr, 132 Sn and 208 Pb • We wish to have the Hmf capable of reproducing the single-particle level energies exactly (”Exact Reference Hamiltonians”) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Selection of Nuclei and Test Model-Hamiltonians • We will be interested in extracting today’s single-nucleon energies in the so-called well-known doubly-magic spherical-nuclei: 16 O, 40 Ca, 48 Ca, 56 Ni, 90 Zr, 132 Sn and 208 Pb • We wish to have the Hmf capable of reproducing the single-particle level energies exactly (”Exact Reference Hamiltonians”) • The only simple Hamiltonian that we know of, which reproduces the single-particle spectra exactly, is the Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian ws ws Hws mf = T + Vcent + Vso Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Selection of Nuclei and Test Model-Hamiltonians • We will be interested in extracting today’s single-nucleon energies in the so-called well-known doubly-magic spherical-nuclei: 16 O, 40 Ca, 48 Ca, 56 Ni, 90 Zr, 132 Sn and 208 Pb • We wish to have the Hmf capable of reproducing the single-particle level energies exactly (”Exact Reference Hamiltonians”) • The only simple Hamiltonian that we know of, which reproduces the single-particle spectra exactly, is the Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian ws ws Hws mf = T + Vcent + Vso • The simple Woods-Saxon mean-field has certain advantages: clearly defined roles of the size, depth and surface-diffuseness Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Examples of High-Precision Woods-Saxon Mean-Fields • Illustrating the results of the standard χ2 -fit in 90 Zr: Z=40 N= 50 protons S2= 0.01 Rrms=4.16 theor exper 1g7/2 1g7/2 2d5/2 2d5/2 1g9/2 1g9/2 2p1/2 2p1/2 2p3/2 2p3/2 1f5/2 1f5/2 0 Energy [MeV] -2 -4 -6 -8 -10 V0=-58.18 r0=1.25 a0=0.79 Vso= 20.33 rso=1.21 aso=0.37 2 -12 • The quality of the result is such that the graphical illustration is insufficient to show the discrepancies !!! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies High Precision of the Fits: ∼ 1 keV! • There are several high-precision examples produced with the WoodsSaxon Hamiltonian: The case of 90 Zr No. Ecalc 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. -10.089 -9.861 -8.348 -5.150 -1.300 0.399 Eexp -10.090 -9.860 -8.350 -5.150 -1.300 0.400 Level Err.(th-exp) 1f5/2 2p3/2 2p1/2 1g9/2 2d5/2 1g7/2 0.0007 -0.0007 0.0018 0.0000 -0.0001 -0.0006 • With as many as 6 parameters, Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian reproduces 6 experimental energies with δe = 2 keV maximum error! • We arbitrarily call it Exact Reference Hamiltonian (‘Zr-exact’) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Partial Conclusion at This Stage of the Discussion: Let us emphasize: Although we study an Exact Reference Hamiltonian, in reality we aim at the realistic fully microscopic mean-field theories Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Examples of High-Precision Woods-Saxon Mean-Fields • Illustrating the results of the standard χ2 -fit in 16 O; single-particle mean-field energies corrected for the Wigner-type contributions[1] Z= 8 N= 8 neutrons S2= 0.03 Rrms=2.59 exper 1d3/2 Energy [MeV] 0 -2 2s1/2 2s1/2 -4 1d5/2 1d5/2 -6 -8 -10 -12 1p1/2 1p1/2 -14 -16 -18 -20 1p3/2 1p3/2 2 Z= 8 N= 8 protons S = 0.00 Rrms=2.56 theor 6 4 2 0 exper 1d3/2 1d3/2 2s1/2 2s1/2 1d5/2 1d5/2 1p1/2 1p1/2 1p3/2 1p3/2 -2 -4 -6 -8 -10 -12 -14 -16 -18 V0=-59.48 r0=1.15 a0=0.69 Vso= 18.02 rso=0.79 aso=0.39 theor Energy [MeV] 1d3/2 V0=-54.99 r0=1.22 a0=0.70 Vso= 36.75 rso=0.45 aso=0.95 2 • The quality of the result is such that the graphical illustration is again insufficient to show the fit inaccuracies !!! [1] For details about Wigner corrections, cf. R. R. Chasman, PRL 99, 082501 (2007) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Unprecedented Precision of the Fits: 100 eV! • The six-parameter Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian, No. Ecalc 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. -15.300 -9.000 -0.600 -0.100 4.400 Eexp -15.300 -9.000 -0.600 -0.100 4.400 16 O, neutrons: Level Err.(th-exp) 1p3/2 1p1/2 1d5/2 2s1/2 1d3/2 -0.0001 -0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0.0001 • The results of this type definitely need an interpretation: Is this property limited to one single nucleus? Not at all! Is this a good? or rather a bad news? - We will see soon Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Unprecedented Precision of the Fits: 100 eV! • The six-parameter Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian, No. Ecalc 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. -15.300 -9.000 -0.600 -0.100 4.400 Eexp -15.300 -9.000 -0.600 -0.100 4.400 16 O, neutrons: Level Err.(th-exp) 1p3/2 1p1/2 1d5/2 2s1/2 1d3/2 -0.0001 -0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0.0001 • The results of this type definitely need an interpretation: Is this property limited to one single nucleus? Not at all! Is this a good? or rather a bad news? - We will see soon Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Unprecedented Precision of the Fits: 100 eV! • The six-parameter Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian, No. Ecalc 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. -15.300 -9.000 -0.600 -0.100 4.400 Eexp -15.300 -9.000 -0.600 -0.100 4.400 16 O, neutrons: Level Err.(th-exp) 1p3/2 1p1/2 1d5/2 2s1/2 1d3/2 -0.0001 -0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0.0001 • The results of this type definitely need an interpretation: Is this property limited to one single nucleus? Not at all! Is this a good? or rather a bad news? - We will see soon Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Unprecedented Precision of the Fits: 100 eV! • The six-parameter Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian, No. Ecalc 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. -15.300 -9.000 -0.600 -0.100 4.400 Eexp -15.300 -9.000 -0.600 -0.100 4.400 16 O, neutrons: Level Err.(th-exp) 1p3/2 1p1/2 1d5/2 2s1/2 1d3/2 -0.0001 -0.0001 0.0000 0.0000 0.0001 • The results of this type definitely need an interpretation: Is this property limited to one single nucleus? Not at all! Is this a good? or rather a bad news? - We will see soon Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies High Precision of the Fits: 10−1 keV! • Another nucleus with the standard Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian: The case of 132 Sn No. Ecalc 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. -16.010 -15.710 -9.680 -8.720 -7.240 Eexp -16.010 -15.710 -9.680 -8.720 -7.240 Level Err.(th-exp) 2p1/2 1g9/2 1g7/2 2d5/2 2d3/2 -0.0004 -0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0001 • With as much as Z=50 protons, the Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian reproduces 5 experimental energies with δe = 0.4 keV max. error! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies An Example with the Presence of High-j Orbitals • The case of 208 Pb No. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. Ecalc Eexp Level Err.(th-exp) -9.338 -8.519 -7.757 -3.791 -2.534 -1.835 -0.372 -9.350 -8.350 -8.100 -3.800 -2.490 -1.830 -0.400 1h11/2 2d3/2 3s1/2 1h9/2 2f7/2 1i13/2 2f5/2 0.0119 -0.1686 0.3428 0.0090 -0.0438 -0.0045 0.0284 • As we will see immediately, we are beginning to learn something: the levels which are the most rigid are not the high-j but rather low-` orbitals. By arbitrarily removing 3s1/2 and 2d3/2 from the fit ... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies ... Back to High Precision of ∼100 eV • Indeed, by removing two lowest-` orbitals, 3s1/2 and 2d3/2 , we are again down to the precision of 200 electron-volts !!! No. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. Ecalc Eexp Level Err.(th-exp) -9.350 -3.800 -2.490 -1.830 -0.400 -9.350 -3.800 -2.490 -1.830 -0.400 1h11/2 1h9/2 2f7/2 1i13/2 2f5/2 0.0002 0.0000 0.0000 -0.0002 0.0000 • ... and all that for the nucleus as heavy as Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France 208 Pb Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Quite Often Good Is Better than Bad, and so: Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Quite Often Good Is Better than Bad, and so: • At first glance we should be happy: Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Quite Often Good Is Better than Bad, and so: • At first glance we should be happy: If the Hamiltonian gives exactly the experimentally measured single-particle states, it gives most likely the other, not yet measured (at least close lying levels) at the nearly right positions! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Quite Often Good Is Better than Bad, and so: • At first glance we should be happy: If the Hamiltonian gives exactly the experimentally measured single-particle states, it gives most likely the other, not yet measured (at least close lying levels) at the nearly right positions! Before planing a new measurement - it is certainly interesting to consult the prediction of the Exact Reference Hamiltonian!! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Quite Often Good Is Better than Bad, and so: • At first glance we should be happy: If the Hamiltonian gives exactly the experimentally measured single-particle states, it gives most likely the other, not yet measured (at least close lying levels) at the nearly right positions! Before planing a new measurement - it is certainly interesting to consult the prediction of the Exact Reference Hamiltonian!! It becomes a useful tool to study many-body matrix-elements within e.g. shell-model traditional techniques - it generates the wave-functions that are ‘exact’ desired input to other codes Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 2. Single-Particle Levels: Theory vs. Experiment 2.1 Posing the Problem 2.2 Modeling Single-Particle Energies Quite Often Good Is Better than Bad, and so: • At first glance we should be happy: If the Hamiltonian gives exactly the experimentally measured single-particle states, it gives most likely the other, not yet measured (at least close lying levels) at the nearly right positions! Before planing a new measurement - it is certainly interesting to consult the prediction of the Exact Reference Hamiltonian!! It becomes a useful tool to study many-body matrix-elements within e.g. shell-model traditional techniques - it generates the wave-functions that are ‘exact’ desired input to other codes • But on the other hand, the Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian is too simple to contain the truth, all the truth and the only truth about nuclear Mean-Field! Overparametrized Hamiltonians? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics Part III Hamiltonians and Parametric Correlations: Mathematical Background Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals What Is this Section about? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals What Is this Section about? • If parameters are correlated [e.g. pi = f(pk , p` , . . .)]: Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals What Is this Section about? • If parameters are correlated [e.g. pi = f(pk , p` , . . .)]: - The confidence intervals tend to infinity Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals What Is this Section about? • If parameters are correlated [e.g. pi = f(pk , p` , . . .)]: - The confidence intervals tend to infinity - The problem becomes ill-conditioned (looses stability) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals What Is this Section about? • If parameters are correlated [e.g. pi = f(pk , p` , . . .)]: - The confidence intervals tend to infinity - The problem becomes ill-conditioned (looses stability) - No extrapolations e.g. to exotic nuclei are possible Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals What Is this Section about? • If parameters are correlated [e.g. pi = f(pk , p` , . . .)]: - The confidence intervals tend to infinity - The problem becomes ill-conditioned (looses stability) - No extrapolations e.g. to exotic nuclei are possible • The problem is that one never knows these correlations - unless one studies them specifically. This problem is serious: ignoring it renders extrapolations to exotic nuclear ranges a priori impossible Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals What Is this Section about? • If parameters are correlated [e.g. pi = f(pk , p` , . . .)]: - The confidence intervals tend to infinity - The problem becomes ill-conditioned (looses stability) - No extrapolations e.g. to exotic nuclei are possible • The problem is that one never knows these correlations - unless one studies them specifically. This problem is serious: ignoring it renders extrapolations to exotic nuclear ranges a priori impossible • Here we introduce the formalism to treat the problem Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Introduction: Choice of the Experimental Input Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Introduction: Choice of the Experimental Input • Consider a mean-field Hamiltonian: Hmf = Hmf (r̂, p̂, ŝ; {p}); Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France {p} → parameters Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Introduction: Choice of the Experimental Input • Consider a mean-field Hamiltonian: Hmf = Hmf (r̂, p̂, ŝ; {p}); {p} → parameters • In a search for ‘an as adequate approach as possible a search for coupling constants’ we need some guidelines. Our choice: The mean-field Hamiltonian should first of all describe optimally the mean field degrees of freedom {ϕν , eν } in Hmf ϕν (r, {p}) = e ν (p) ϕ ν (r, {p}) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Introduction: Choice of the Experimental Input • Consider a mean-field Hamiltonian: Hmf = Hmf (r̂, p̂, ŝ; {p}); {p} → parameters • In a search for ‘an as adequate approach as possible a search for coupling constants’ we need some guidelines. Our choice: The mean-field Hamiltonian should first of all describe optimally the mean field degrees of freedom {ϕν , eν } in Hmf ϕν (r, {p}) = e ν (p) ϕ ν (r, {p}) • In an Appendix we explain at length why not the nuclear masses... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Introduction: χ2 -Problem and Its Linearisation Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Introduction: χ2 -Problem and Its Linearisation • Parameter adjustement usually corresponds to a minimisation of: χ2 (p) = 1 m−n Pm j=1 Wj [ejexp − ejth (p)]2 → ∂χ2 ∂pk = 0, k = 1 . . . n where: m - number of data points; n - number of model parameters Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics Introduction: χ2 -Problem and Its Linearisation • Parameter adjustement usually corresponds to a minimisation of: χ2 (p) = 1 m−n Pm j=1 Wj [ejexp − ejth (p)]2 → ∂χ2 ∂pk = 0, k = 1 . . . n where: m - number of data points; n - number of model parameters • Introduce linearisation procedure [after simplification ejth (p) → fj ] n X ∂fj fj (p) ≈ fj (p0 ) + (pi − p0,i ) ∂pi p=p0 i=1 Jjk ≡ q Wj χ2 (p) = ∂fj ∂pk 1 m−n and bj = p=p0 Pm Pn j=1 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France i=1 q Wj [ejexp − fj (p0 )] Jji · (pi − p0,i ) − bj 2 Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals χ2 -Problem Using Applied-Mathematics’ Jargon Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals χ2 -Problem Using Applied-Mathematics’ Jargon • One may easily show that within the linearized representation ∂χ2 ∂pi = 0 → (JT J) · (p − p0 ) = JT b Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals χ2 -Problem Using Applied-Mathematics’ Jargon • One may easily show that within the linearized representation ∂χ2 ∂pi = 0 → (JT J) · (p − p0 ) = JT b • In Applied Mathematics we usually change wording and notation: {p} ↔ x ↔ ‘causes’ and {e} ↔ b ↔ ‘effects’ ↔ A · x = b From the measured effects represented by ‘b’ we extract information about the causes ‘x’ by inverting the matrix: A → x = A−1 · b Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals χ2 -Problem Using Applied-Mathematics’ Jargon • One may easily show that within the linearized representation ∂χ2 ∂pi = 0 → (JT J) · (p − p0 ) = JT b • In Applied Mathematics we usually change wording and notation: {p} ↔ x ↔ ‘causes’ and {e} ↔ b ↔ ‘effects’ ↔ A · x = b From the measured effects represented by ‘b’ we extract information about the causes ‘x’ by inverting the matrix: A → x = A−1 · b • Some mathematical details: J ≡ A ∈ Rm×n ; x ∈ Rn , and b ∈ Rm Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Powerful Tool: Singular-Value Decomposition Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Powerful Tool: Singular-Value Decomposition • The problems with instabilities (i.e. ill-conditioning) can be easily illustrated using the so-called Singular-Value Decomposition of A: A = U · D · VT with U ∈ Rm×m , V ∈ Rn×n , D ∈ Rm×n where diagonal matrix has a form D = diag{d1 , d2 , . . . dmin(m,n) } | {z } decreasing order Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Powerful Tool: Singular-Value Decomposition • The problems with instabilities (i.e. ill-conditioning) can be easily illustrated using the so-called Singular-Value Decomposition of A: A = U · D · VT with U ∈ Rm×m , V ∈ Rn×n , D ∈ Rm×n where diagonal matrix has a form D = diag{d1 , d2 , . . . dmin(m,n) } | {z } decreasing order • Formally (but also in practice), the solution ‘x’ is expressed as x = AT b; AT = V · DT · UT where DT = diag d11 , 1 , d2 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France ... 1 ; 0, 0, dp ... 0 Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Ill-Conditioned Problems: Qualitative Illustration Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Ill-Conditioned Problems: Qualitative Illustration • An academic 2 × 2 problem: A has eigenvalues: d1 and d2 ∼ Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France 1 10 d1 Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics Ill-Conditioned Problems: Qualitative Illustration 1 • An academic 2 × 2 problem: A has eigenvalues: d1 and d2 ∼ 10 d1 • Introduce errorless data (b∗ ) and uncertain (noisy) data: b1 & b2 x − space b − space 2 Ax=b data points with noise 2 x 1= A b 1 b1 x 2= A b 2 −1 b2 x=A b errorless data b * 1 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France x =Ab * * 1 Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics Ill-Conditioned Problems: Qualitative Illustration 1 • An academic 2 × 2 problem: A has eigenvalues: d1 and d2 ∼ 10 d1 • Introduce errorless data (b∗ ) and uncertain (noisy) data: b1 & b2 x − space b − space 2 Ax=b data points with noise 2 x 1= A b 1 b1 x 2= A b 2 −1 b2 x=A b errorless data b * x =Ab * * 1 1 Left: Red circle represents points equally distant from ‘noisless’ data b∗ . Right: Purple oval represents the image of the circle through Ax=b. One may show that instability is directly dependent on the condition number cond(A) ≡ d1 dr - the bigger the condition number the more ‘ill-conditioned’ the problem Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Fitting, Implied Errors and Confidence Intervals Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Fitting, Implied Errors and Confidence Intervals • Let us come back to the underlying χ2 minimum condition: ∂χ2 ∂pj → (JT J)(p − p0 ) = JT b Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Fitting, Implied Errors and Confidence Intervals • Let us come back to the underlying χ2 minimum condition: ∂χ2 ∂pj → (JT J)(p − p0 ) = JT b • Using the Singular-Value Decomposition written down explicitly P T Jik = r`=1 Ui` d` V`k one shows that (JT J)−1 = V d12 VT Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Fitting, Implied Errors and Confidence Intervals • Let us come back to the underlying χ2 minimum condition: ∂χ2 ∂pj → (JT J)(p − p0 ) = JT b • Using the Singular-Value Decomposition written down explicitly P T Jik = r`=1 Ui` d` V`k one shows that (JT J)−1 = V d12 VT • Independently one derives the expression for the correlation matrix h(pi − hpi i) · (pj − hpj i)i = χ2 (p) t2α/2,m−n (JT J)−1 ij Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals Fitting, Implied Errors and Confidence Intervals • Let us come back to the underlying χ2 minimum condition: ∂χ2 ∂pj → (JT J)(p − p0 ) = JT b • Using the Singular-Value Decomposition written down explicitly P T Jik = r`=1 Ui` d` V`k one shows that (JT J)−1 = V d12 VT • Independently one derives the expression for the correlation matrix h(pi − hpi i) · (pj − hpj i)i = χ2 (p) t2α/2,m−n (JT J)−1 ij • If one or more dk → 0 then (JT J)−1 tends to infinity and generally, the confidence intervals of all parameters diverge Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy If the confidence intervals diverge we loose unique answers, Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy If the confidence intervals diverge we loose unique answers, but on the other hand we are confident of our errors Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy If the confidence intervals diverge we loose unique answers, but on the other hand we are confident of our errors A similar problem has been encountered, according to Umberto Eco, about 1327 (”Il nome della rosa”) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy If the confidence intervals diverge we loose unique answers, but on the other hand we are confident of our errors A similar problem has been encountered, according to Umberto Eco, about 1327 (”Il nome della rosa”) ”So you don’t have unique answers to your questions?” Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy If the confidence intervals diverge we loose unique answers, but on the other hand we are confident of our errors A similar problem has been encountered, according to Umberto Eco, about 1327 (”Il nome della rosa”) ”So you don’t have unique answers to your questions?” ”Adson, if I had, I would teach theology in Paris” Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy If the confidence intervals diverge we loose unique answers, but on the other hand we are confident of our errors A similar problem has been encountered, according to Umberto Eco, about 1327 (”Il nome della rosa”) ”So you don’t have unique answers to your questions?” ”Adson, if I had, I would teach theology in Paris” ”Do they always have a right answer in Paris” Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy If the confidence intervals diverge we loose unique answers, but on the other hand we are confident of our errors A similar problem has been encountered, according to Umberto Eco, about 1327 (”Il nome della rosa”) ”So you don’t have unique answers to your questions?” ”Adson, if I had, I would teach theology in Paris” ”Do they always have a right answer in Paris” ”Never”, said William, Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 3. Instability of Hamiltonians: Mathematics 3.1 A Lesson in Applied Mathematics 3.2 Mathematics of Confidence Intervals A Kind of Summary and a Historical Analogy If the confidence intervals diverge we loose unique answers, but on the other hand we are confident of our errors A similar problem has been encountered, according to Umberto Eco, about 1327 (”Il nome della rosa”) ”So you don’t have unique answers to your questions?” ”Adson, if I had, I would teach theology in Paris” ”Do they always have a right answer in Paris” ”Never”, said William, ”but there they are quite confident of their errors”. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian Part IV Physical Background of Parametric Correlations: Realistic Illustrations Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian What Is this Section about? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian What Is this Section about? • Heurestic arguments: We know that in nuclear physics: Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian What Is this Section about? • Heurestic arguments: We know that in nuclear physics: - Nuclear volume is constant, deformation independent Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian What Is this Section about? • Heurestic arguments: We know that in nuclear physics: - Nuclear volume is constant, deformation independent - ... and grows proportionally to the particle number A Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian What Is this Section about? • Heurestic arguments: We know that in nuclear physics: - Nuclear volume is constant, deformation independent - ... and grows proportionally to the particle number A - Surface-diffuseness is independent of anything (shape...) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian What Is this Section about? • Heurestic arguments: We know that in nuclear physics: - Nuclear volume is constant, deformation independent - ... and grows proportionally to the particle number A - Surface-diffuseness is independent of anything (shape...) • The above quantities do not enter the Hamiltonian directly. They are reproduced through external conditions on the r.m.s, on the difussivity, on the saturation properties... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian What Is this Section about? • Heurestic arguments: We know that in nuclear physics: - Nuclear volume is constant, deformation independent - ... and grows proportionally to the particle number A - Surface-diffuseness is independent of anything (shape...) • The above quantities do not enter the Hamiltonian directly. They are reproduced through external conditions on the r.m.s, on the difussivity, on the saturation properties... • This imposes correlations among the parameters and below we illustrate these features using the simplest, intuitive Hamiltonian: the spherical Woods-Saxon Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Can We Obtain the Whole Hmf out of a Few Levels? • We introduce the exact modelling with features close to the experimental ones • We define the ‘experimental spectrum’ by setting the result of the calculations with a certain set of realistic parameters • The advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary in order to recover the full/complete result i.e. all the (known) parameters of the whole Hamiltonian? • We begin with a central Woods-Saxon potential (no spin-orbit)... for simplicity Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Can We Obtain the Whole Hmf out of a Few Levels? • We introduce the exact modelling with features close to the experimental ones • We define the ‘experimental spectrum’ by setting the result of the calculations with a certain set of realistic parameters • The advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary in order to recover the full/complete result i.e. all the (known) parameters of the whole Hamiltonian? • We begin with a central Woods-Saxon potential (no spin-orbit)... for simplicity Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Can We Obtain the Whole Hmf out of a Few Levels? • We introduce the exact modelling with features close to the experimental ones • We define the ‘experimental spectrum’ by setting the result of the calculations with a certain set of realistic parameters • The advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary in order to recover the full/complete result i.e. all the (known) parameters of the whole Hamiltonian? • We begin with a central Woods-Saxon potential (no spin-orbit)... for simplicity Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Can We Obtain the Whole Hmf out of a Few Levels? • We introduce the exact modelling with features close to the experimental ones • We define the ‘experimental spectrum’ by setting the result of the calculations with a certain set of realistic parameters • The advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary in order to recover the full/complete result i.e. all the (known) parameters of the whole Hamiltonian? • We begin with a central Woods-Saxon potential (no spin-orbit)... for simplicity Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Can We Obtain the Whole Hmf out of a Few Levels? • We introduce the exact modelling with features close to the experimental ones • We define the ‘experimental spectrum’ by setting the result of the calculations with a certain set of realistic parameters • The advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary in order to recover the full/complete result i.e. all the (known) parameters of the whole Hamiltonian? • We begin with a central Woods-Saxon potential (no spin-orbit)... for simplicity Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Will it be sufficient to use four ‘experimental’ levels to recover the central potential? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Limited Experimental Input → May Be Too Limited! constant parameter: A0CENT=0.69 1.4 1.3 1.2 1.1 Behaviour of the χ Function 208 82 Pb 9 8 7 2 6 5 4 6 4 2 1.0 0.9 -70 χ[MeV] 10 18 6 1 14 12 10 8 6 4 3 2 8 10 -65 1 -60 -55 -50 -45 -40 Depth Parameter Vo -35 -30 0 Experimental levels: central interaction with Universal WS parameters V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 Radius Parameter ro 1.5 Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 3s1/2 1h11/2 2f5/2 3p1/2 Window Size: Emin =-15.87 MeV Emax =-8.35 MeV Four levels are used; they lie close to the Fermi level. Clearly the radius and potential depth parameters a very strongly correlated [cond(A) → ∞] Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Will it help to use six levels? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Limited Experimental Input → May Be Too Limited constant parameter: A0CENT=0.69 1.4 1.3 1.2 1.1 Behaviour of the χ Function 208 82 Pb 9 8 7 2 6 5 4 6 4 2 1.0 0.9 -70 χ[MeV] 10 18 6 1 14 12 10 8 6 4 3 8 -65 2 10 -60 1 -55 -50 -45 -40 Depth Parameter Vo -35 -30 0 Experimental levels: central interaction with Universal WS parameters V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 Radius Parameter ro 1.5 Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 1g9/2 2d5/2 3s1/2 1h11/2 2f5/2 3p1/2 Window Size: Emin =-20.35 MeV Emax =-8.35 MeV Still six levels close to the typical nucleonic binding are used. Despite slight improvements, the confidence intervals risk to be very large. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential First Conclusions from Tests of This Type (Part I) • Flat valleys on the χ2 -plots are a convenient graphical tool to express instabilities (large confidence intervals) • Because of these uncertainties, knowing ∼6 experimental levels (a typical situation) will be in-sufficient to recover the parameters with any significant precision • Conversely: It may be relatively ”easy” to fit six levels with high numerical precision and still large parametric uncertainty. • Recall: We need to fight parametric uncertainties since we wish to extrapolate to exotic nuclear ranges! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential First Conclusions from Tests of This Type (Part I) • Flat valleys on the χ2 -plots are a convenient graphical tool to express instabilities (large confidence intervals) • Because of these uncertainties, knowing ∼6 experimental levels (a typical situation) will be in-sufficient to recover the parameters with any significant precision • Conversely: It may be relatively ”easy” to fit six levels with high numerical precision and still large parametric uncertainty. • Recall: We need to fight parametric uncertainties since we wish to extrapolate to exotic nuclear ranges! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential First Conclusions from Tests of This Type (Part I) • Flat valleys on the χ2 -plots are a convenient graphical tool to express instabilities (large confidence intervals) • Because of these uncertainties, knowing ∼6 experimental levels (a typical situation) will be in-sufficient to recover the parameters with any significant precision • Conversely: It may be relatively ”easy” to fit six levels with high numerical precision and still large parametric uncertainty. • Recall: We need to fight parametric uncertainties since we wish to extrapolate to exotic nuclear ranges! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential First Conclusions from Tests of This Type (Part I) • Flat valleys on the χ2 -plots are a convenient graphical tool to express instabilities (large confidence intervals) • Because of these uncertainties, knowing ∼6 experimental levels (a typical situation) will be in-sufficient to recover the parameters with any significant precision • Conversely: It may be relatively ”easy” to fit six levels with high numerical precision and still large parametric uncertainty. • Recall: We need to fight parametric uncertainties since we wish to extrapolate to exotic nuclear ranges! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential First Conclusions from Tests of This Type (Part II) Our discussion brings us to the notion of iso-spectral (or approximate iso-spectral) parametrisations of the nuclear Hamiltonians: ”The same spectrum can be obtained using many different, yet spectroscopically equivalent parametrisations” Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential First Conclusions from Tests of This Type (Part II) Our discussion brings us to the notion of iso-spectral (or approximate iso-spectral) parametrisations of the nuclear Hamiltonians: ”The same spectrum can be obtained using many different, yet spectroscopically equivalent parametrisations” Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Analogous Tests for the Spin-Orbit Potential • We ”define the experimental spectrum” by setting the result of the calculations with a certain standard set of parameters - this time with the spin-orbit term • As before the main advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the exact solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary to recover the result? • What are expected parametric uncertainties of the result? • Can a unique information be recovered at all? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Analogous Tests for the Spin-Orbit Potential • We ”define the experimental spectrum” by setting the result of the calculations with a certain standard set of parameters - this time with the spin-orbit term • As before the main advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the exact solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary to recover the result? • What are expected parametric uncertainties of the result? • Can a unique information be recovered at all? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Analogous Tests for the Spin-Orbit Potential • We ”define the experimental spectrum” by setting the result of the calculations with a certain standard set of parameters - this time with the spin-orbit term • As before the main advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the exact solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary to recover the result? • What are expected parametric uncertainties of the result? • Can a unique information be recovered at all? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Analogous Tests for the Spin-Orbit Potential • We ”define the experimental spectrum” by setting the result of the calculations with a certain standard set of parameters - this time with the spin-orbit term • As before the main advantage of such an exercise consists in the fact that we know the exact solution of the fitting (χ2 minimisation) procedure exactly • What is the minimum information necessary to recover the result? • What are expected parametric uncertainties of the result? • Can a unique information be recovered at all? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 1.2 1.5 0.8 10 1.6 1.4 0.3 1.0 208 82 Pb 1.8 0.3 0.7 1.2 1.0 0.8 0.6 0.4 1.1 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 0.2 40 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 2.0 1.4 0.7 0.6 χ[MeV] 1.9 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro Behaviour of the χ Function Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 1s1/2 1p3/2 1d3/2 2s1/2 1f5/2 2p1/2 Window Size: Emin =-41.686 MeV Emax =-23.424 MeV We know already that too few levels offer no good prospects - we start with six very lowest levels. Observation: no way to distiguish between the spin-orbit strength in the interval from 15 to 40 ! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential We will gradually increase the energy of the six-level window to approach the nucleon binding region and thus simulate the present-day experimental situation Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 χ[MeV] 2.0 0.7 1.8 1.6 1.2 1.4 0.3 1.2 1.0 1.0 0.8 1.1 1.5 1.9 0.8 0.6 0.4 0.6 10 208 82 Pb 0.7 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 0.2 40 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 1.4 1.1 2.3 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro Behaviour of the χ Function Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 1p3/2 1d3/2 2s1/2 1f5/2 2p1/2 1g9/2 Window Size: Emin =-37.676 MeV Emax =-22.09 MeV Increasing the energy of the six levels helps localising the spin-orbit strength only very slowly! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 χ[MeV] 2.0 0.7 1.8 1.6 1.2 1.4 0.3 1.2 1.0 1.0 0.8 1.1 0.6 10 208 82 Pb 0.8 0.7 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 0.6 1.5 40 0.4 0.2 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 1.4 1.1 1.9 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro Behaviour of the χ Function Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 1d3/2 2s1/2 1f5/2 2p1/2 1g9/2 2d5/2 Window Size: Emin =-31.742 MeV Emax =-17.732 MeV Increasing the energy of the six levels helps localising the spin-orbit strength only very slowly... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 1.4 1.2 χ[MeV] 2.0 1.1 1.8 1.6 0.3 0.7 1.4 1.1 1.5 1.0 1.2 1.9 1.0 0.8 0.8 0.6 10 208 82 Pb 0.6 0.4 0.7 1.1 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 0.2 40 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 1.5 2.3 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro Behaviour of the χ Function Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 2s1/2 1f5/2 2p1/2 1g9/2 2d5/2 1h11/2 Window Size: Emin =-30.7 MeV Emax =-15.916 MeV Increasing the energy of the six levels helps localising the spin-orbit strength only very slowly... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 1.2 1.8 0.7 10 1.5 1.0 0.8 1.1 0.6 0.4 1.1 1.5 1.9 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 1.4 1.2 1.9 0.8 208 82 Pb 1.6 0.3 1.0 0.6 2.0 0.2 40 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 1.4 χ[MeV] 1.5 1.9 2.3 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro Behaviour of the χ Function Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 2p1/2 1g9/2 2d5/2 1h11/2 3s1/2 1i13/2 Window Size: Emin =-23.424 MeV Emax =-9.303 MeV Increasing the energy of the six levels helps localising the spin-orbit strength only very slowly... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 10 208 82 Pb 1.4 1.2 1.9 1.0 0.6 1.6 0.3 1.0 0.8 1.5 1.1 1.9 0.6 0.4 0.2 1.5 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 40 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 1.8 1.2 0.8 2.0 2.3 1.4 χ[MeV] 1.5 1.9 0.7 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro Behaviour of the χ Function Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 1g9/2 2d5/2 1h11/2 3s1/2 1i13/2 2f5/2 Window Size: Emin =-22.09 MeV Emax =-8.461 MeV Increasing the energy of the six levels helps localising the spin-orbit strength only very slowly... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 0.7 1.8 1.0 1.6 0.3 1.5 1.4 1.0 1.2 0.8 0.8 0.6 10 208 82 Pb 0.6 1.5 1.9 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 0.4 0.2 40 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 1.2 2.0 1.1 2.3 1.4 χ[MeV] 1.5 1.9 1.9 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro Behaviour of the χ Function Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 2d5/2 1h11/2 3s1/2 1i13/2 2f5/2 3p1/2 Window Size: Emin =-17.732 MeV Emax =-7.839 MeV Increasing the energy of the six levels helps localising the spin-orbit strength only very slowly... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 1.2 2.0 1.8 1.1 1.6 0.3 1.4 0.7 1.2 1.0 1.5 1.0 0.8 0.8 0.6 10 208 82 Pb 0.6 0.4 1.5 1.9 1.9 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 0.2 40 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 1.4 χ[MeV] 1.5 1.9 1.9 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro Behaviour of the χ Function Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 1h11/2 3s1/2 1i13/2 2f5/2 3p1/2 2g9/2 Window Size: Emin =-15.916 MeV Emax =-3.785 MeV Increasing the energy of the six levels helps localising the spin-orbit strength only very slowly... Attention: Second solution is coming ! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian Limited Experimental Input: How Little is Sufficient? Behaviour of the χ Function 1.8 0.7 1.6 1.4 1.0 10 208 82 Pb 1.0 0.8 0.3 0.8 0.6 1.2 0.6 1.5 1.9 15 20 25 30 35 Spin-orbit Depth ParameterVo 0.4 0.2 1.9 40 0.0 Experimental levels: Universal WS parameters (central + spin-orbit interaction) V0CENT=-55.95 R0CENT=1.21 A0CENT=0.69 V0SORB=23.00 R0SORB=1.14 A0SORB=0.52 2.0 1.1 1.5 1.2 χ[MeV] 1.9 1.4 1.9 1.5 Spin-orbit Radius Parameterro constant parameter: A0SORB=0.52 Experimental Neutron Energy Levels: 3s1/2 1i13/2 2f5/2 3p1/2 2g9/2 4s1/2 Window Size: Emin =-15.875 MeV Emax =-1.402 MeV ... and here we discover the existence of two solutions - we call them compact and non-compact. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential What Can We Conclude from the This Set of Tests? • First of all, the fitted spin-orbit strength may vary widely from one doubly-magic nucleus to another - there exists a considerable softness in χ2 dependence on λso • Secondly - there are correlations between the parameters: two relatively distant sets of parameters may be, what we call spectroscopically equivalent (‘iso-spectroscopic’) • We discover a possibility of double-valued solutions giving rise to compact and non-compact spin-orbit parametrisations • We confirm the presence of iso-spectral lines also in the space of the spin-orbit potential parameters Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential What Can We Conclude from the This Set of Tests? • First of all, the fitted spin-orbit strength may vary widely from one doubly-magic nucleus to another - there exists a considerable softness in χ2 dependence on λso • Secondly - there are correlations between the parameters: two relatively distant sets of parameters may be, what we call spectroscopically equivalent (‘iso-spectroscopic’) • We discover a possibility of double-valued solutions giving rise to compact and non-compact spin-orbit parametrisations • We confirm the presence of iso-spectral lines also in the space of the spin-orbit potential parameters Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential What Can We Conclude from the This Set of Tests? • First of all, the fitted spin-orbit strength may vary widely from one doubly-magic nucleus to another - there exists a considerable softness in χ2 dependence on λso • Secondly - there are correlations between the parameters: two relatively distant sets of parameters may be, what we call spectroscopically equivalent (‘iso-spectroscopic’) • We discover a possibility of double-valued solutions giving rise to compact and non-compact spin-orbit parametrisations • We confirm the presence of iso-spectral lines also in the space of the spin-orbit potential parameters Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 4. Parametric Correlations within a Hamiltonian 4.1 Extracting Central Potential 4.2 Extracting Spin-Orbit Potential What Can We Conclude from the This Set of Tests? • First of all, the fitted spin-orbit strength may vary widely from one doubly-magic nucleus to another - there exists a considerable softness in χ2 dependence on λso • Secondly - there are correlations between the parameters: two relatively distant sets of parameters may be, what we call spectroscopically equivalent (‘iso-spectroscopic’) • We discover a possibility of double-valued solutions giving rise to compact and non-compact spin-orbit parametrisations • We confirm the presence of iso-spectral lines also in the space of the spin-orbit potential parameters Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies Part V Overparametrized Nuclear Hamiltonians: Why? How to Deal with the Problem? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis First Step: A More Microscopic Formulation • We suggest to replace a too neat W-S spin-orbit parametrisation by using the density gradient so Vws ∼ 1d r dr λ 1 + exp[(r − Ro )/ao ] ff ↔ so Vws ∼ λ0 dρ r dr • The nucleonic density can be seen as describing the interaction source: in systems with short range interactions, on the average, the higher the density (gradient) - the more chance to interact. • Similarly, in the relativistic approach so Vrel ∼ 1d [S(r) − V(r)] r dr with S and V expressed by the densities of (source) mesons. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis First Step: A More Microscopic Formulation • We suggest to replace a too neat W-S spin-orbit parametrisation by using the density gradient so Vws ∼ 1d r dr λ 1 + exp[(r − Ro )/ao ] ff ↔ so Vws ∼ λ0 dρ r dr • The nucleonic density can be seen as describing the interaction source: in systems with short range interactions, on the average, the higher the density (gradient) - the more chance to interact. • Similarly, in the relativistic approach so Vrel ∼ 1d [S(r) − V(r)] r dr with S and V expressed by the densities of (source) mesons. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis First Step: A More Microscopic Formulation • We suggest to replace a too neat W-S spin-orbit parametrisation by using the density gradient so Vws ∼ 1d r dr λ 1 + exp[(r − Ro )/ao ] ff ↔ so Vws ∼ λ0 dρ r dr • The nucleonic density can be seen as describing the interaction source: in systems with short range interactions, on the average, the higher the density (gradient) - the more chance to interact. • Similarly, in the relativistic approach so Vrel ∼ 1d [S(r) − V(r)] r dr with S and V expressed by the densities of (source) mesons. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Half-Phenomenological Microscopic Hamiltonian • Consider a given nucleus with the density ρ and a series of neighbouring nuclei with extra occupied orbitals j1 ↔ ρj1 , j2 ↔ ρj2 , etc. We expect that the density-dependent spin-orbit potentials Vso ∼ dρ , dr dρj1 , dr dρj2 dr ... account much better for these extra orbitals than just a flat WS potential introduced long ago for numerical simplicity • Therefore we will test the following Hartree-Fock type hypothesis Vπso = λππ dρπ r dr + λπν dρν r dr and Vνso = and Vπc = λνπ dρπ r dr + λνν dρν r dr with the central WS potentials Vπc = Voπ 1+exp[(r −Roπ )/aoπ ] Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Voν 1+exp[(r −Roν )/aoν ] Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Half-Phenomenological Microscopic Hamiltonian • Consider a given nucleus with the density ρ and a series of neighbouring nuclei with extra occupied orbitals j1 ↔ ρj1 , j2 ↔ ρj2 , etc. We expect that the density-dependent spin-orbit potentials Vso ∼ dρ , dr dρj1 , dr dρj2 dr ... account much better for these extra orbitals than just a flat WS potential introduced long ago for numerical simplicity • Therefore we will test the following Hartree-Fock type hypothesis Vπso = λππ dρπ r dr + λπν dρν r dr and Vνso = and Vπc = λνπ dρπ r dr + λνν dρν r dr with the central WS potentials Vπc = Voπ 1+exp[(r −Roπ )/aoπ ] Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Voν 1+exp[(r −Roν )/aoν ] Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis A New Self-consistent Microscopic Formulation • We will try to test two strategies: First of all, the central WoodsSaxon potentials seem to be very robust when ‘moving’ from one corner of the Periodic Table to another - as independent tests show • On the other hand we will modify the HF idea of self-consistency from the usual variational context to the spectroscopic context: X H(ρ)ψn = en ψn → ρ = ψ ∗ ψ → H(ρ)ψn = en ψn . . . We will iterate to obtain the self-consistency that in this context we call ‘auto-reproduction’ - it is not a result of energy minimisation! • In other words: If at ith iteration the spectrum is {ein } and at i + 1st → {ei+1 n }, we stop iterating when |ei+1 − ein | < , n Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France ∀n Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis A New Self-consistent Microscopic Formulation • We will try to test two strategies: First of all, the central WoodsSaxon potentials seem to be very robust when ‘moving’ from one corner of the Periodic Table to another - as independent tests show • On the other hand we will modify the HF idea of self-consistency from the usual variational context to the spectroscopic context: X H(ρ)ψn = en ψn → ρ = ψ ∗ ψ → H(ρ)ψn = en ψn . . . We will iterate to obtain the self-consistency that in this context we call ‘auto-reproduction’ - it is not a result of energy minimisation! • In other words: If at ith iteration the spectrum is {ein } and at i + 1st → {ei+1 n }, we stop iterating when |ei+1 − ein | < , n Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France ∀n Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis A New Self-consistent Microscopic Formulation • We will try to test two strategies: First of all, the central WoodsSaxon potentials seem to be very robust when ‘moving’ from one corner of the Periodic Table to another - as independent tests show • On the other hand we will modify the HF idea of self-consistency from the usual variational context to the spectroscopic context: X H(ρ)ψn = en ψn → ρ = ψ ∗ ψ → H(ρ)ψn = en ψn . . . We will iterate to obtain the self-consistency that in this context we call ‘auto-reproduction’ - it is not a result of energy minimisation! • In other words: If at ith iteration the spectrum is {ein } and at i + 1st → {ei+1 n }, we stop iterating when |ei+1 − ein | < , n Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France ∀n Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Self-consistent Formulation: Minimum Coupling • For the first tests we apply what we call a minimum coupling hypothesis df λππ = λπν = λνπ = λνν = λ • We adjust parameters of the central potential together with |λ| • In other words: We will reduce the number of spin-orbit parameters from 6 (3 per particle kind: λ, roso and aso ) to one! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Self-consistent Formulation: Minimum Coupling • For the first tests we apply what we call a minimum coupling hypothesis df λππ = λπν = λνπ = λνν = λ • We adjust parameters of the central potential together with |λ| • In other words: We will reduce the number of spin-orbit parameters from 6 (3 per particle kind: λ, roso and aso ) to one! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Self-consistent Formulation: Minimum Coupling • For the first tests we apply what we call a minimum coupling hypothesis df λππ = λπν = λνπ = λνν = λ • We adjust parameters of the central potential together with |λ| • In other words: We will reduce the number of spin-orbit parameters from 6 (3 per particle kind: λ, roso and aso ) to one! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Comparing with Experimental Results: Example 16 O Single particle proton and neutron states in 16 O - recall that until recently the fit-errors varied between 2-3 MeV! theor Z= 8 N= 8 neutrons S2= 5.95 Rrms=2.57 4 exper 2 Energy [MeV] 0 1d3/2 2s1/2 2s1/2 1d5/2 1d5/2 -2 -4 -6 -8 -10 1p1/2 1p1/2 1p3/2 1p3/2 -12 -14 -16 -4 exper 1d3/2 2s1/2 2s1/2 1d5/2 1d5/2 1p1/2 1p1/2 1p3/2 1p3/2 -6 -8 -10 -12 -14 -16 -18 -18 theor 1d3/2 0 -2 Energy [MeV] 4 2 1d3/2 V0=-63.24 r0=1.11 a0=0.75 λso= 1.21 6 V0=-58.34 r0=1.17 a0=0.76 λso= 1.21 Z= 8 N= 8 protons S2= 7.38 Rrms=2.54 8 -20 -22 This result corresponds to just one λ-parameter fit instead of 6 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Comparing with Experimental Results: Example Similarly the single particle proton and neutron states in 2 1f7/2 1f7/2 -2 -4 1d3/2 1d3/2 -8 2s1/2 exper 1f5/2 1f5/2 -4 2p1/2 2p1/2 -6 2p3/2 2p3/2 1f7/2 1f7/2 1d3/2 1d3/2 2s1/2 2s1/2 -2 -8 -10 -12 -14 -16 2s1/2 -10 V0=-57.53 r0=1.20 a0=0.79 λso= 1.24 2p3/2 Energy [MeV] 2p3/2 theor 0 2p1/2 V0=-58.10 r0=1.19 a0=0.80 λso= 1.24 2p1/2 exper 0 Energy [MeV] 40 Ca 2 theor -6 Ca Z=20 N= 20 neutrons S2= 1.18 Rrms=3.22 Z=20 N= 20 protons S = 0.91 Rrms=3.31 4 2 40 -18 -20 This result corresponds to just one (λ) parameter fit instead of 6 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Limitation of Parametric Redundancy: Conclusions (I) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Limitation of Parametric Redundancy: Conclusions (I) 1. One can fully appreciate the physics success realising that: Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Limitation of Parametric Redundancy: Conclusions (I) 1. One can fully appreciate the physics success realising that: We have replaced six adjustable parameters by a single one Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Limitation of Parametric Redundancy: Conclusions (I) 1. One can fully appreciate the physics success realising that: We have replaced six adjustable parameters by a single one Flat-bottom W-S functions are replaced by nucleon densities that carry more physical information through various j-orbitals Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Limitation of Parametric Redundancy: Conclusions (I) 1. One can fully appreciate the physics success realising that: We have replaced six adjustable parameters by a single one Flat-bottom W-S functions are replaced by nucleon densities that carry more physical information through various j-orbitals 2. This result implies that: Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Limitation of Parametric Redundancy: Conclusions (I) 1. One can fully appreciate the physics success realising that: We have replaced six adjustable parameters by a single one Flat-bottom W-S functions are replaced by nucleon densities that carry more physical information through various j-orbitals 2. This result implies that: The new, simple and in a way natural notion of self-consistency works in a powerful manner Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Limitation of Parametric Redundancy: Conclusions (I) 1. One can fully appreciate the physics success realising that: We have replaced six adjustable parameters by a single one Flat-bottom W-S functions are replaced by nucleon densities that carry more physical information through various j-orbitals 2. This result implies that: The new, simple and in a way natural notion of self-consistency works in a powerful manner Most importantly, Fits show that the density fluctuations are needed for the gradients in the realistic spin-orbit terms! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Following Messages are intended for Mature Audiences Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis How About Contemporary Skyrme-Type Functionals? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis How About Contemporary Skyrme-Type Functionals? • In their comprehensive study Carlsson, Dobaczewski and Kortelainen introduce nuclear density functionals up to the sixth order (the standard Skyrme is of the second order) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis How About Contemporary Skyrme-Type Functionals? • In their comprehensive study Carlsson, Dobaczewski and Kortelainen introduce nuclear density functionals up to the sixth order (the standard Skyrme is of the second order) • Their total energy density reads X 0 I0 ,n0 L0 v0 J0 m0 I0 ,n0 L0 v0 J0 H(~r) = Cm r), mI,nLvJ,Q TmI,nLvJ,Q (~ m0 I0 ,n0 L0 v0 J0 mI,nLvJ,Q 0 0 0 0 0 0 I ,n L v J where Cm are coupling constants mI,nLvJ,Q Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis How About Contemporary Skyrme-Type Functionals? • In their comprehensive study Carlsson, Dobaczewski and Kortelainen introduce nuclear density functionals up to the sixth order (the standard Skyrme is of the second order) • Their total energy density reads X 0 I0 ,n0 L0 v0 J0 m0 I0 ,n0 L0 v0 J0 H(~r) = Cm r), mI,nLvJ,Q TmI,nLvJ,Q (~ m0 I0 ,n0 L0 v0 J0 mI,nLvJ,Q 0 0 0 0 0 0 I ,n L v J where Cm are coupling constants mI,nLvJ,Q • It is instructive to think about the extentions of the EDF based approaches in terms of increasing number of coupling constants and the preceding illustrations... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis How About Contemporary Skyrme-Type Functionals? Table: Numbers of terms of different orders in the EDF up to N3 LO. Numbers of terms depending on the time-even and time-odd densities are given separately. The last two columns give numbers of terms when the Galilean or gauge invariance is assumed, respectively. To take into account both isospin channels, the numbers of terms should be multiplied by a factor of two. order 0 2 4 6 3 N LO T-even 1 8 53 250 312 T-odd 1 10 61 274 346 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Total 2 18 114 524 658 Galilean 2 12 45 129 188 Gauge 2 12 29 54 97 Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies Deviating from the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Behaviour of the χ Function 4.0 S2n 100 55 35 90 80 2.0 70 np λpn so = λso 15 60 0.0 -2.0 -4.0 1.0 208 82 Pb 50 15 35 40 30 20 55 10 75 1.5 2.0 2.5 3.0 3.5 nn λpp so = λso 4.0 4.5 5.0 0 Proton Central Potential Parameters: VOCENT=-61.989 R0CENT=1.2176 A0CENT=0.6376 Neutron Central Potential Parameters:VOCENT=-41.560 R0CENT=1.3316 A0CENT=0.7481 Weights:WEIRAD=1.00, WEWIWEI=1.00, WEIMAX=10.00 The χ2n (neutron) test letting λππ =λνν and λπν =λνπ separate The two variables manifest a linear correlation Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies Deviating from the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis The χ2p (proton) test letting λππ =λνν and λπν =λνπ separate Behaviour of the χ Function 100 35 4.0 90 80 np λpn so = λso 2.0 0.0 70 60 15 15 50 40 -2.0 30 20 35 -4.0 1.0 208 82 Pb 1.5 2.0 10 2.5 3.0 3.5 nn λpp so = λso 4.0 4.5 5.0 0 Proton Central Potential Parameters: VOCENT=-61.989 R0CENT=1.2176 A0CENT=0.6376 Neutron Central Potential Parameters:VOCENT=-41.560 R0CENT=1.3316 A0CENT=0.7481 Weights:WEIRAD=1.00, WEWIWEI=1.00, WEIMAX=10.00 S2p The two variables manifest a linear dependence as well, but not quite the same as in the previous case Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Summary and Conclusions from This Part 1. We have introduced a self-consistent Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian - this is a reference tool half-way between the pure phenomenological and the microscopic formulations 2. In this Hamiltonian we reduce the number of spin-orbit constants from 6 to 1 and thus show that the ‘usual’ WS modelisation is over-parametrised 3. We believe at this stage that the new reference Hamiltonian is very well equipped for the extrapolations into exotic isospins: The central potential is robust against extrapolations The spin-orbit part is self-determining (consistent) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Summary and Conclusions from This Part 1. We have introduced a self-consistent Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian - this is a reference tool half-way between the pure phenomenological and the microscopic formulations 2. In this Hamiltonian we reduce the number of spin-orbit constants from 6 to 1 and thus show that the ‘usual’ WS modelisation is over-parametrised 3. We believe at this stage that the new reference Hamiltonian is very well equipped for the extrapolations into exotic isospins: The central potential is robust against extrapolations The spin-orbit part is self-determining (consistent) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Summary and Conclusions from This Part 1. We have introduced a self-consistent Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian - this is a reference tool half-way between the pure phenomenological and the microscopic formulations 2. In this Hamiltonian we reduce the number of spin-orbit constants from 6 to 1 and thus show that the ‘usual’ WS modelisation is over-parametrised 3. We believe at this stage that the new reference Hamiltonian is very well equipped for the extrapolations into exotic isospins: The central potential is robust against extrapolations The spin-orbit part is self-determining (consistent) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Summary and Conclusions from This Part 1. We have introduced a self-consistent Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian - this is a reference tool half-way between the pure phenomenological and the microscopic formulations 2. In this Hamiltonian we reduce the number of spin-orbit constants from 6 to 1 and thus show that the ‘usual’ WS modelisation is over-parametrised 3. We believe at this stage that the new reference Hamiltonian is very well equipped for the extrapolations into exotic isospins: The central potential is robust against extrapolations The spin-orbit part is self-determining (consistent) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 5. Self-Consistent Limitation of Redundancies 5.1 Density-Dependent Spin-Orbit (Minimum Coupling) 5.2 Beyond the Minimum Coupling Hypothesis Summary and Conclusions from This Part 1. We have introduced a self-consistent Woods-Saxon Hamiltonian - this is a reference tool half-way between the pure phenomenological and the microscopic formulations 2. In this Hamiltonian we reduce the number of spin-orbit constants from 6 to 1 and thus show that the ‘usual’ WS modelisation is over-parametrised 3. We believe at this stage that the new reference Hamiltonian is very well equipped for the extrapolations into exotic isospins: The central potential is robust against extrapolations The spin-orbit part is self-determining (consistent) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling Part VI Uncertainties Caused by Experimental Input: Exact Modelling Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform What Is this Section about? Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform What Is this Section about? • Let us calculate {eµ }-levels for a given parameter set Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform What Is this Section about? • Let us calculate {eµ }-levels for a given parameter set • We can treat them ‘as experimental’; by trying to reproduce them through fitting we know an exact solution! Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform What Is this Section about? • Let us calculate {eµ }-levels for a given parameter set • We can treat them ‘as experimental’; by trying to reproduce them through fitting we know an exact solution! • Extra advantage: we may introduce the notion of ‘noise’ and start varying any level which we wish to study Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform What Is this Section about? • Let us calculate {eµ }-levels for a given parameter set • We can treat them ‘as experimental’; by trying to reproduce them through fitting we know an exact solution! • Extra advantage: we may introduce the notion of ‘noise’ and start varying any level which we wish to study • We obtain the repsonse of all the levels to a ‘noise’ the standard source of information about uncertainties Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Propagation of Experimental-Level Uncertainties • Consider a single particle spectrum {eνo } ↔ Hϕoν = eνo ϕoν obtained with a certain set of parameters {p}o ; • Define an ‘experimental’ set of levels {eνexp } ≡ {eνo }. Repeating the minimisation procedure will reproduce those {eνo } exactly; • Chose one level, say eκo ∈ {eνo }, and arbitrarily modify its position, eκo → eκ ≡ (eκo − e) with, say e ∈ [−2, +2] MeV; then refit the χ2 -test → all other levels will move to new positions • Collect these new positions: they are functions eν = eν (eκ ), below referred to as ‘error response functions’ → see illustrations Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Propagation of Experimental-Level Uncertainties • Consider a single particle spectrum {eνo } ↔ Hϕoν = eνo ϕoν obtained with a certain set of parameters {p}o ; • Define an ‘experimental’ set of levels {eνexp } ≡ {eνo }. Repeating the minimisation procedure will reproduce those {eνo } exactly; • Chose one level, say eκo ∈ {eνo }, and arbitrarily modify its position, eκo → eκ ≡ (eκo − e) with, say e ∈ [−2, +2] MeV; then refit the χ2 -test → all other levels will move to new positions • Collect these new positions: they are functions eν = eν (eκ ), below referred to as ‘error response functions’ → see illustrations Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Propagation of Experimental-Level Uncertainties • Consider a single particle spectrum {eνo } ↔ Hϕoν = eνo ϕoν obtained with a certain set of parameters {p}o ; • Define an ‘experimental’ set of levels {eνexp } ≡ {eνo }. Repeating the minimisation procedure will reproduce those {eνo } exactly; • Chose one level, say eκo ∈ {eνo }, and arbitrarily modify its position, eκo → eκ ≡ (eκo − e) with, say e ∈ [−2, +2] MeV; then refit the χ2 -test → all other levels will move to new positions • Collect these new positions: they are functions eν = eν (eκ ), below referred to as ‘error response functions’ → see illustrations Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Error Response Functions to 3p1/2 -Orbital Change in Fitted Energy [MeV] 0.8 0.6 2g7/2 1i13/2 3p1/2 1h9/2 3p3/2 0.4 1g7/2 2f5/2 0.2 1g9/2 2f7/2 0.0 2g9/2 2g9/2 -0.2 2f7/2 1g9/2 -0.4 2f5/2 1g7/2 3p3/2 1h9/2 -0.6 -0.8 208 82 Pb 2g7/2 -2.0 1i13/2 -1.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] If the experimental 3p1/2 level varies in [-2,+2] MeV window around its actual positions, all other levels fixed, refitting gives relative variations shown; the effect is small Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Error Response Functions to 3p3/2 -Orbital Change in Fitted Energy [MeV] 0.8 0.6 2g9/2 1h9/2 3p3/2 1i13/2 3p1/2 0.4 1g7/2 2f7/2 0.2 1g9/2 2g7/2 0.0 2g7/2 2f5/2 -0.2 2f5/2 1g9/2 -0.4 2f7/2 1g7/2 3p1/2 1i13/2 -0.6 -0.8 208 82 Pb 2g9/2 -2.0 1h9/2 -1.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] If the experimental 3p3/2 level varies in [-2,+2] MeV window around its actual positions, all other levels fixed, refitting gives relative variations shown; the effect increases Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Error Response Functions to 2f5/2 -Orbital Change in Fitted Energy [MeV] 0.8 0.6 2g9/2 2g7/2 2f5/2 1i13/2 3p1/2 0.4 2f7/2 3p3/2 0.2 1g7/2 1h9/2 0.0 3p3/2 1g9/2 -0.2 1h9/2 1g7/2 -0.4 1g9/2 2f7/2 3p1/2 2g9/2 -0.6 -0.8 208 82 Pb 2g7/2 -2.0 1i13/2 -1.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] The experimental 2f5/2 level varies in [-2,+2] MeV window. Observe a ‘paradox’: to be precise on 2g7/2 we better take care of spectroscopic factors while measuring 2f5/2 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Error Response Functions to 2g9/2 -Orbital Change in Fitted Energy [MeV] 0.8 0.6 1g9/2 3p3/2 2g9/2 2g7/2 2f7/2 0.4 2f5/2 3p1/2 0.2 1g7/2 2g7/2 0.0 1h9/2 1i13/2 -0.2 1i13/2 1g7/2 -0.4 3p1/2 2f5/2 2f7/2 1h9/2 -0.6 -0.8 208 82 Pb 3p3/2 -2.0 1g9/2 -1.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] To determine precisely through parameter-fitting the energies of 3p3/2 , 2f7/2 ... the right position of 2g9/2 auxiliary analysis must be done particularly carefully (associated spectroscopic factors precise, particle vibration subtracted, pairing effect subtracted) Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Inverse Representation for 2g9/2 -Orbital Change in Fitted Energy [MeV] 0.8 0.6 1g9/2 2f7/2 2g9/2 2f5/2 3p3/2 0.4 1h9/2 1i13/2 0.2 1g7/2 1g7/2 0.0 3p1/2 3p1/2 -0.2 2g7/2 2f5/2 -0.4 1i13/2 1h9/2 3p3/2 2g7/2 -0.6 -0.8 208 82 Pb 1g9/2 2f7/2 -2.0 -1.0 0.0 1.0 2.0 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] Attention: The figure may look similar but it contains a totally opposite information: All the curves represent the 2g9/2 -level - this is how the fitting will modify 2g9/2 if we vary the indicated levels Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Conclusions from the Error Response-Function Tests • Observe precise indications as to ‘which levels influence which’ what allows to discuss the experimental strategies precisely • The low-` orbitals (such as 3p1/2 , 3p3/2 ) have relatively small impact on the error-response functions ... • ... while some pairs of orbitals couple very strongly • The highest-` orbitals do not couple in the strongest way; Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform: Definition and Properties • Given experimental level ν with the average position ēν and its uncertainty distribution Dν (e − ēν ) • We refit the whole spectrum {eκ → eκ (e − ēν )} each time varying e ∈ [ēν − ∆, ēν + ∆] • In this way we obtain a new set of distributions for each level eκ viz. Dκ (e − ēν ): we call them Schrödinger transforms • Below are typical illustrations; the Schrödinger transforms do not need to be similar to the original experimental uncertainty distribution ... Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform of the Level 3p1/2 Probability Distribution 3p1/2 [arbitrary units] 5.0 1i13/2 4.0 3.0 2.0 1.0 0.0 208 82 Pb -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] We assume Gaussian distribution for the initial ‘experimental’ level i13/2 and obtain the Schrödinger transform for 3p1/2 , integral normalised. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform of the Level 3p3/2 Probability Distribution 3p3/2 [arbitrary units] 6.0 1i13/2 5.0 4.0 3.0 2.0 1.0 0.0 208 82 Pb -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] We assume Gaussian distribution for the initial ‘experimental’ level i13/2 and obtain the Schrödinger transform for 3p3/2 , integral normalised. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform of the Level 2f5/2 Probability Distribution 2f5/2 [arbitrary units] 20.0 1i13/2 15.0 10.0 5.0 0.0 208 82 Pb -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] We assume Gaussian distribution for the initial ‘experimental’ level i13/2 and obtain the Schrödinger transform for 2f5/2 , integral normalised. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform of the Level 2f7/2 Probability Distribution 2f7/2 [arbitrary units] 450.0 1i13/2 400.0 350.0 300.0 250.0 200.0 150.0 100.0 50.0 0.0 208 82 Pb -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] We assume Gaussian distribution for the initial ‘experimental’ level i13/2 and obtain the Schrödinger transform for 2f7/2 , integral normalised. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform of the Level 3p1/2 Probability Distribution 3p1/2 [arbitrary units] 3.0 2g7/2 2.5 2.0 1.5 1.0 0.5 0.0 208 82 Pb -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] We assume Gaussian distribution for the initial ‘experimental’ level 2g7/2 and obtain the Schrödinger transform for 3p1/2 , integral normalised. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform of the Level 3p3/2 Probability Distribution 3p3/2 [arbitrary units] 10.0 2g7/2 8.0 6.0 4.0 2.0 0.0 208 82 Pb -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] We assume Gaussian distribution for the initial ‘experimental’ level 2g7/2 and obtain the Schrödinger transform for 3p3/2 , integral normalised. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform of the Level 2f5/2 Probability Distribution 2f5/2 [arbitrary units] 2.5 2g7/2 2.0 1.5 1.0 0.5 0.0 208 82 Pb -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] We assume Gaussian distribution for the initial ‘experimental’ level 2g7/2 and obtain the Schrödinger transform for 2f5/2 , integral normalised. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Schrödinger Transform of the Level 2f7/2 Probability Distribution 2f7/2 [arbitrary units] 25.0 2g7/2 20.0 15.0 10.0 5.0 0.0 208 82 Pb -0.4 -0.2 0.0 0.2 0.4 Relative Change of Experimental Energy [MeV] We assume Gaussian distribution for the initial ‘experimental’ level 2g7/2 and obtain the Schrödinger transform for 2f7/2 , integral normalised. Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Experimental Single Particle States (Comments II) 1. For the Z=N nuclei the extra coherent effects (Wigner energy) should be extracted (R. Chasman, M.G. Porquet, our group...) 2. The pairing, often considered negligible in the double-magic nuclei (by the way under in-acceptable arguments) should be taken into account (see next transparency) • Our project has started, in collaboration with experimentalists by, re-evaluation of all the experimental results on the single particle levels according to the documented present status of the data • Some details are given in the Annexe B - not presented here Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Experimental Single Particle States (Comments II) 1. For the Z=N nuclei the extra coherent effects (Wigner energy) should be extracted (R. Chasman, M.G. Porquet, our group...) 2. The pairing, often considered negligible in the double-magic nuclei (by the way under in-acceptable arguments) should be taken into account (see next transparency) • Our project has started, in collaboration with experimentalists by, re-evaluation of all the experimental results on the single particle levels according to the documented present status of the data • Some details are given in the Annexe B - not presented here Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Experimental Single Particle States (Comments II) 1. For the Z=N nuclei the extra coherent effects (Wigner energy) should be extracted (R. Chasman, M.G. Porquet, our group...) 2. The pairing, often considered negligible in the double-magic nuclei (by the way under in-acceptable arguments) should be taken into account (see next transparency) • Our project has started, in collaboration with experimentalists by, re-evaluation of all the experimental results on the single particle levels according to the documented present status of the data • Some details are given in the Annexe B - not presented here Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Experimental Single Particle States (Comments II) 1. For the Z=N nuclei the extra coherent effects (Wigner energy) should be extracted (R. Chasman, M.G. Porquet, our group...) 2. The pairing, often considered negligible in the double-magic nuclei (by the way under in-acceptable arguments) should be taken into account (see next transparency) • Our project has started, in collaboration with experimentalists by, re-evaluation of all the experimental results on the single particle levels according to the documented present status of the data • Some details are given in the Annexe B - not presented here Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Comment: Exact Treatment of Pairing - Example 40 Ca Even though the BCS collapses, the coherent effects of pairing are there; Table shows the exact results1 in function of the pairing constant G up to the BCS collapse limit Gcr ∼ 0.65. By definition: ∆Ecoll ≡ δeph − δe exact . G (MeV) 0.00 0.10 0.20 0.30 0.40 0.50 0.60 1 ∆Ecoll (MeV) 0.000 0.111 0.248 0.423 0.655 0.969 1.402 ∆Ecoll /E (%) 0.000 2.575 5.754 9.814 15.197 22.483 32.529 Collectivity (%) 0.00 0.12 0.54 1.36 2.74 4.86 7.93 H. Molique and JD, Phys. Rev. C56 (1997) 1795 Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Partial Conclusion at This Stage of the Discussion: • Because of instrumental and other uncertainties on the spectroscopic factors, extracted average energies have experimental errors • Because of the approximations in the reaction theory there are additional methodological uncertainties • If the coupling with vibrations are not taken into account there are additional coupling related uncertainties • Because of the residual interactions there are additional dynamical uncertainties • It turns out that the ‘experimental single particle energies’ take the form of random or statistical variables: in the best case they are characterised by their average and a certain probability distribution Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Partial Conclusion at This Stage of the Discussion: • Because of instrumental and other uncertainties on the spectroscopic factors, extracted average energies have experimental errors • Because of the approximations in the reaction theory there are additional methodological uncertainties • If the coupling with vibrations are not taken into account there are additional coupling related uncertainties • Because of the residual interactions there are additional dynamical uncertainties • It turns out that the ‘experimental single particle energies’ take the form of random or statistical variables: in the best case they are characterised by their average and a certain probability distribution Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Partial Conclusion at This Stage of the Discussion: • Because of instrumental and other uncertainties on the spectroscopic factors, extracted average energies have experimental errors • Because of the approximations in the reaction theory there are additional methodological uncertainties • If the coupling with vibrations are not taken into account there are additional coupling related uncertainties • Because of the residual interactions there are additional dynamical uncertainties • It turns out that the ‘experimental single particle energies’ take the form of random or statistical variables: in the best case they are characterised by their average and a certain probability distribution Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power 6. Uncertainties: Exact Modeling 6.1 Impact from One-Level 6.2 Schrödinger Transform Partial Conclusion at This Stage of the Discussion: • Because of instrumental and other uncertainties on the spectroscopic factors, extracted average energies have experimental errors • Because of the approximations in the reaction theory there are additional methodological uncertainties • If the coupling with vibrations are not taken into account there are additional coupling related uncertainties • Because of the residual interactions there are additional dynamical uncertainties • It turns out that the ‘experimental single particle energies’ take the form of random or statistical variables: in the best case they are characterised by their average and a certain probability distribution Jerzy DUDEK, University of Strasbourg, France Nuclear Hamiltonians and Spectroscopic Predictive Power