Vol 28 No 3 May-June, 1966
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Vol 28 No 3 May-June, 1966
Horseless Carriage Club of America Founded in Los Angeles November 14, 1937 A nonprofit corporation founded by and for automotive antiquarians and dedicated to the preserva tion of motor vehicles of ancient age and historica l value, their accessories, archives and romantic lore. OFFICERS Sanford C. Grover -------------- -- ------------------------- --Ken Sorensen ------ ------------ ---- ------ -- ---- ------ --- - Vice George Skopecek ____ __ ________________ ------- --- -------- -----Joe Straub ________ ______ __ __ ___ _-------- --------- ----------------- President President Sec retary Treasurer Ernie Boyer ------------------------------------ Chairman of the Board DIRECTORS AND TERMS OF OFFICE 1964-66 1966-68 1965-67 Dick Alexander Gordon Howard Clarence Kay Mike Roberts Joe Straub Les Andrews Bud Catlett Roy Davis Sandy Grover George Skopecek Peter Bechtel E. R. Bourne Cecil Frye Ken Sorensen Les Thomas COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN Activities -------- ------ ------------ ___ __ _____ _________ _____ Dick Alexander Regiona l Groups ----------------------------------- ______ Les Andrews Pub lications ----- -- ---- -- --- _________________ _____ __ __ _____ __ _ Mike Roberts Gazette -------------------- -- ------- ---- -- -- --- ------------- -- ----- Cedi Frye Budget & Bylaws ------------------------------------ Gordon Howard Safety ___________ _____ ___ _---- -- ---------- -------- --- ----- -------- Bud Catlett HONORARY Lester H. Barnett Lind ley F. Bothwell Ernie Boyer Ralph Cherry Floyd Clymer Sam DeBolt Warwick Eastwood John G. Gillespie DIRECTORS Harry B. Johnson Dr. Alfred S. Lewerenz W. Everett Mill er John B. Ogden Herb Prentice Herbert Royston Dr. Geo. E. Sha f er Executive Secretary: Truman 0 . W elch MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION Active M e mbers must own a Horse less Carriage of year 1915 or earlier; they have a ll privi leges of the club . Annual dues, $7.00 (foreign, $8.00), $6 .00 of w hich is for a one year subscription to the Horseless Carriage Gazette. Associate Members have a ll privil eges of th e club except ho lding a National office and voting . Annu a l dues $5.00, (foreign, $6-00 ) which inc ludes a year Gazette subscription. Wives of Members may become either Activ e or Associate members, corresponding to their husband' s membership . On ly one copy of the Gazette, the Roster and o ther mai lings wi ll be sent jointly to husband and wife. Annu a l dues, $2.00. Life Members are Active or Associate M embers for life upon payment of $100.00 dues. Regional Group Members, who must b e Na tional Active or Associate members, pay additional du es as estab lish ed by the local clubs. May 15 I lOth Annual Shell Hill Climb Long Beach (Calif.) Model T Club May 21-22 I Olympia (Wash.) HCC Swap Meet Long Lake Fairgrounds May 21-22 I Bentley Drivers Club Meet Aurora, Ohio May 22 I Pittsburgh (Pa.) Spring Meet Riverside Park, Oakmont, Pennsylvania May 29 I Antiue Auto Races & Show Hutchinson, Kansas June 2-4 I Midwest 1 & 2 Cylinder Car Tour Wichita, Kansas June 11-12 I 12th Annual WOODland Auto Tour Grand Rapids (Mich.) Regional Group June 18 I 8th Annual Mercer Hospital Antique Auto Show Trenton, N.J. Regional Group June 20-23 I 9th Biennial Reno Tour Nevada Regional Group June 23-26 I 13th Annual Texas Tour Victoria (South) Texas July 1-3 I 6th Annual Trail of Tears Tour and Annual HCC Midwest Tour Tulsa, Oklahoma July 8-9-10 I One & Two Cylinder Car Tour Santa Rosa, California July 15-16-17 I Annual Northwest Tour Anacortes, Washington July 15-16-17 I Annual Summer Tour Pittsburgh (Pa.) Regional Group July 16-17 I Swap Meet Southern California Regional Group July 23 I lOth Anniversary Costume Ball San Francisco Regional Group July 29-30-31 I Coast Tour to Santa Cruz Central California Regional Group July 30-31 I Bay Area Tour & Field Meet Sonoma, California First Weekend in August I Harrah Swap Meet Reno, Nevada August 14 I Swap Meet Santa Rosa, California August 20-211 Swap Meet & Car Show Fort Collins, Colorado August 17-18-19-20 I White Mountain Ramble Arizona Group (Tucson) August 2'1 I 12th Annual Swap Meet Long Beach (Calif.) Model T Club September 8-9-10-11 1 HCCA National Tour Yosemite Valley, California September 10 I Annual Fall Meet Fairfield County (Conn.) Regional Group September 23-24-25-26 1 Seigler Springs Tour Santa Rosa (Calif.) Regional Group September 24-25 I Centralia-Chehalis Swap Meet Southwest Washington Fairgrounds September 251 SoCal Annual Field Meet Santa Anita, California 3 '6JA~Z~E l~T~E £JA1R1RilfA BlE ~----- ~---- ----- \\;- - - - OFFICIAL PUBLICATION OF THE Hors-eless Carriage Club of America ED ITOR Vol. 28, No. 3 May-June, 1966 FEATURE EDITOR RESEARCH HISTORIAN COVER PHOTOGRAPHER TECHNICAL ED ITOR FASHION EDITOR REGIONAL NEWS ED ITOR The Horseless Carriage Gazette is published bimonthly by the Horseless Carriage Club of America, In c., 9031 E. Florence Avenue, Downey, Califor· nia. Second class postag e paid at Downey, California, and at ad ditional mailing office. Subscription : $6.00 a year. CONTRIBUTING Fred Hayward Dick Philippi Dr. Allred S. Lewerenz Mike Roberts Vaun Rodgers Helen Frye Sandy Grover ARTISTS Ward Kimball, Hel en Frye, Car lo s Diniz, Ben Sharpsteen, Ed Pranger, Peter Heick EDITORS Herb Royston, Ward Kimball, Herb Prentice, Keith Marvin, Randall Gou ld Virginia Barnett, Fred Usher, Gary Welch DISPLAY ADVERTISING MANAGER: Herb Prentice IN THifl Articles appearing in this publication express the individual opinions of the writers and are not necessarily the opinions of the Editors or the HCCA . Written permission must be obtained from the HCCA Board of Directors for the reproduction of a ny material appearing in the Horseless Carriage Gazette. Address all correspondence to HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE 9031 E. Florence Avenue Arrington Square Downey, California $1.00 a copy L~l)UB National Comments .......................................................... Announcements .................................................................. New Gazette Editor ···················--·-········-···--····-·-············-·-· Round the World in a Locomobile .................................... Touring by Locomobile --------------------·····----·-- ----- ----···--········ Fremont's Hawaiian Holiday .............................................. "They GOT a Horse" ........................................................ Regional Group News ........................................................ Vacation Styles 1915 .................................................. National Tour Facts ............................................................ Engine and Chassis Drawings ............................................ Asinine Alley ...................................................................... What's Its .................................................... . ...................... Restoration Hints ................................................................ Classified Advertising ........................................................ Service Directory ................................................................ Current Restorations .......................................................... Memory Museum ................................................................ Family Album .................................................................... 4 4 6 10 16 18 26 28 30 34 36 39 44 46 48 50 58 60 64 THE COVER PICTURE by Mike Roberts shows eleven cars parked on the Hanalei Valley overlook, Hawaii. See pag e 18. October 9 I San Francisco Swap Meet Stonestown Shopping Center, San Francisco October 22-23 I lOth Annual Autumn Leaf Tour to Seigler's Springs Newport Beach & San Diego (Calif.) Regional Groups June 26·27 I Carnation Tour La Jolla (Calif.) Regional Group July 17-18-19-20, 1967 I HCCA National Tour Seattle-Tacoma, Washington Labor Day 1967 I Weekend in San Francisco Three Bridge Tour, Reliability Run NATIONAL TOUR ..... September 8-9-10-11 ..... ..... ..... ..... YOSEMITE DETAILS IN CENTER SPREAD 4 NATIONAL CoMMENTs For the past 10 years our GAZETTE, which, I feel is second to none in publications of its class, has been under the very able guidance of Fred Hayward, our editor. It has been my privilege to know Fred since 1950 when we met on the Los Angeles to San Francisco National tour. Since that time he has worked long and hard in our Club's interest, having been GAZETTE Editor since 1956. It is with a great deal of regret that your Board of Directors is forced to accept Fred's resignation. Our search for his successor has been a difficult one, believe me, but we are extremely pleased to tell you that Everett Miller, one of our Club's founders, will now be at the helm as your Horseless Carriage GAZETTE editor. I have known Everett and his wife Katherine since we joined this wonderful club of ours in 1950 and feel, personally, that we could not have made a better choice. Besides being a Charter Member, Everett Miller has served as President, Secretary-Treasurer and Chairman of the Board, having been a Director for 15 years. We, the National Board of Directors, believe that we are all indeed fortunate to have an editor with such a tremendous background of Club history. Everett was instrumental in introducing the first offset printing and publishing of the GAZETTE. It was he who designed our Club emblem and, in our Club's infancy, when the founders were trying to come up with a name for this small, interested group, Katherine Miller suggested The Hors eless Carriage Club, which name was unanimously accepted and is one of which we are all justly proud. WELCOME ABOARD, EVERETT!!!! ~«z_s~~ c _. KEN SORENSEN Vice President, Horseless Carriage Club of America 1966 HCCA NATIONAL TOUR ••• ANNOUNCEMENTS ••• Group has been established at Madison, Wisconsin. They plan to limit membership to owners of pre-1916 cars, and report a fast growing interest in early-car-only tours in their area. A new Regional Glidden Tour brochures and entry forms are available fromHCCA headquarters. The VMCCA are sponsoring this year's event, to be held in Florida. HCCA members are eligible, and the fact that this is the first Glidden Revival in Florida should insure it's being a top event. Zip Codes must be added to all GAZETTE mailing address. Please send yours to club headquarters: HCCA I 9031 Florence I Downey, California 1 90240. AACA President for 1966 is Hyde Ballard of Malvern, Pennsylvania. John G. Perrin, the former Chief Engineer of the Lozier Motor Car Co., died recently at Springfield, Massachusetts. His story on the Lozier car appeared in the March-April1959 GAZETTE. David Gray, owner of numerous exotic early autos such as the S-61 Fiat that starred at many HCC meets twenty years ago, died recently at Santa Barbara, California. He was a descendant of John Gray, an original partner in the Ford Motor Co. OBITUARIES Jess F. Alexander Tulsa, Oklahoma Joseph Alkema Ogden, Utah Walker Edwards Dallas,Texas Keith M. Ferguson La Jolla, California Ken Go lli et Mehama, Oregon John R. Lyman Wilbraham, Massachusetts Sheldon Lytle Latrobe, Pennsylvania W. Z. Plyer Gaston ia, North Carolina Max R. Prestridge El Paso, Texas R. W . Sinclair Kingaroy, Australia Vernon D. Jarvis Decatur, Illinois Lee E. Thorn Wichita, Kansas Abraham Tunick Greenwic h, Connecticut Ray Van Colt Sa lt Lake City, Utah GAZETTE back issues YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK Septembe·r 8-9-10-11 $1.00 a copy e SEE CENTER SPREAD FOR DETAILS THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 5 ANTIQUES, CLASSICS, SPECIAL INTEREST CARS More Than 150 On Display At 12 Miles South of \§}at MINDEN, NEBR ... on OVER A MilLION VISITORS HAVE ENJOYED IT! See one of the nation's most complete collections of autos arranged in chronological order of development. Many of the examples included have great historical significance . Thousands of other items also on display ... more than 30,000 in 22 buildings! Trace the course of man's progress for the last 135 years. Visit worldfamous Pioneer Village. Open from 7 a.m. to sundown every day. Modern 66- unit motel, restaurant, picnic and overnight camping grounds adjoining. Located on U.S. Highway 6 and 34 130 miles west of Lincoln, Nebraska; 14 miles south of U.S.30; 50 miles north of U.S. 36. Interstate 80 travelers take Pioneer Village exit between Grand Island and Kearney, then proceed south 12 miles on Nebraska 10. WRITf FOR FRff FOLDER ONE OF TOP 20 U.S. ATTRACTIONS Seattle-Tacoma in '67 The Seattle-Tacoma regional group is hard at work on plans for the 1967 HCCA National Tour to be held in their area. Tour Chairman Herb Schoenfeld says that this will b e an even better event than the past two spectacular National Tours held in the Northwest. Pictured is Vancouver, British Columbia , which will be a major stop on the tour route. PROMPT NATIONWIDE SERVICE ~O~ICF: will be sent to any potential HCCA member, along with an illustrated fact sheet picturing club activities. Just send us the name and address of anyone you think would be interested in the GAZETTE and Horseless Carriage Club activities. A free Gazette 6 New Gazette Editor 1917 Autocar Truck 1937 Austin 'Nippy' 1940 Bantam Convertibl e 1948 Continenta l Sedan 1948 Cros ley Station Wagon 1949 Cros ley "Hot Shot" Roadster 1930 DeSoto Roadster 1926 Dodge Business Coupe 193 5 Dodge Pickup 1904 Eldredge Runabout 1918 Elgin Touring 1905 Ford Runabout 1951 Frazer Sedan 1924 G raham Brothers Fire Truck 1925 Hupmobile Roadster 1940 Studebaker Sedan 1959 Volga Sedan Wellington Everett Miller, cofounder of the Horseless Carriage Club and President in 1942, is to become GAZETTE editor effective with the next issue. Well known to enthusiasts around the world for his vast collection of automotive literature, he has a wide knowledge of early autos and their owners. He began collecting auto material as a schoolboy, and has continued collecting thru years of design work for such firms as the Murphy Body Co. in Pasadena, California, Harry Miller's race car shops where he made the first drawings for what became the front-drive Cord, the G.M. design center under Harley J. Earl, and Packard during the great days of the 20's. It is expected that the GAZETTE format will remain much the same for the foreseeable future; the rest of the staff will remain the same for the present. Please contact: Bud Cat'lett, Harrah's Automobile Collection, Post Office Box 10, Reno, Nevada for pictures, price and information. t HCCA NATIONAL TOUR YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK .. SEPTEMBER 8-9-10-11 UPHOLSTERY MATERIALS and TOPPING for the antique car and at reasonable prices. Mohairs, broadcloths, Bedfords Ford check and striped cloths. Send small sample of what you need for free samples of what we have for your car. Free "How to do it booklets" available. 'STITTS " 2771 Brunswick Pike, Trenton, N.J. 08638 In leaving the Editorship of the GAZETTE, I want to thank the multitude of persons who have helped so generously the past ten years. In particular, Dick Philippi, Dr. Alfred S. Lewerenz, Herb Prentice and Ward Kimball have contributed work and ideas in a volume and a quality that have made the GAZETTE what it is. Mike Roberts, our cover photographer and general technical advisor; Stu Goldth· waite our printer (Litho-Color Company, Tustin); and Ken Shamory our typographer, have also contributed importantly. To all these, and the dozens more who have helped, I give my sincere thanks. -FRED HAYWARD r----------------------, BASKET CASES Need many parts (including frames), information literature, and advice to restore these "basket cases" . 1912 COLUMB IA CAVALIER 19 13 PIERCE-ARROW 66 !SOME MODEL 48 ITEMS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE) If you can help, please write or call, W. E. Donze MD, 10570 Jerry Coe Lane, Strongsville, Ohio 44136. Phone 2 1 6- 238 - 3124 L----------------------J THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 7 The Museum of Automobiles, featuring the Winthrop Rockefeller Collection, is also the headquarters for PJA PNEUMATIC-the fine tires for antique, vintage and classic automobi les. P.JA PNEUMATIC- Made Here THE FINEST MATERIAL-PIA PNEUMATIC builds on Original Equipment-type rayon fabric, for a quiet ride, longer tread wear- to give you "Show Room" confidence wherever you drive. THE WIDEST CHOICE-PIA PNEUMATIC offers the widest choice of any manufacturer ... a working pledge of tire-making experience that assures you model-year authenticity, plus this-year dependability. Name it- we make it: Single Tube and All-White . .. only with PIA; plus Clinchers and.Straight Sides ... in White Sidewalls or Black . .. Treads or Smoothies. Brass or Rubber Stems. Rim sizes 22 to 38 inches. For original 6 to 8-ply, we make a 4-ply PIA Pneumatic with 8-ply rating, for 35-inch diameter and over, and classics. See th e full line now at the P.JA PNEUMATIC dealer n ear you! Torrance, CALIFORNIA-Clem Hiser I 23524 Evalyn Avenu e I Phone 213-378-4519 Denver, COLORADO-Arthur G. Rippey I 909 Sherman Street I Phon e 303-222-5601 O'Fallon, ILLINOIS--Wayne McKinley I East St. Louis Area I Phone 618-633-2521 Detroit, MICHIGAN-Fleet Supply Corp. I 2896 Central Avenue I Phone 313-843-2200 Hibernia, NEW JERSEY-Hibernia Auto Restoration, Inc. I Maple Terrace I Phone 201-627-1882 Buffalo, NEW YORK-Handcraft Tire Co., Inc. I 119 Broadway I Phone 718-835 -4466 Klamath Falls, OREGON-Julian Eccles I 606 South Sixth Street I Phone 503-884-8124 Feasterville, PENNSYLVANIA-Stan Wi lkinson I 233 Philmont Avenue I Phone 215 -357-8090 Chattanooga, TENNESSEE-Harold Coker I 3924 Brainerd Road I Phone 615-698-8601 NATIONAL DISTRIBUTOR-Klein Kars, Inc. I Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania I Phone 717-367-1131 PNEUMATIC Petit Jean Mountain, Arkansas write Box 590, Morrilton, Arkansas phone: 501 -376-3518 or 501-727-5414 First Word in Tires That Last for Antiqu e, Vinta ge and Classic Automobiles 8 LOW COST IITIQUE CIB Underwritten by one of the largest stock insurance companies in the world. Filing for license plates WHERE REQUIRED. Unin sured Motorist Coverage Available. 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I NO DEDUCTIBLE O Collision $50 deductible - Annua l Rate · $0.40 per $100 of amount of in surance for each vehicle. I I (Note- Collis ion is not written as a singular coverage but is avai lable with Comprehensive and / or Fire & Theft). ANT IQUE AUTOS TO BE INSURED (List on separate sh eet if necessary) 4 D 1 th' b ff · I I I I I I I I I : I O Liability ($100,000 sing le limit) Bodily Injury ond Property Damage. Annual Rates: 1st Car $15.00, 2nd $ 10.00, 3rd $5 .00. O ~I I II 1 I 1 I I I I I I I I I I My veh1cle(s) w 1ll be used ma'"IY 1n exh 1b1l1on, club acllvllles, parades and other funct1ons of public interest and wi ll not be used primarily f?r the transportation of passen.aers or Qoo~s. NOTE: Your insurance becomes effective upon payment of the premium and acceptance of the nsk. Please sign and forward w 1th your rem1ttance, payable to: J. c. TAYLOR, INC. I I Signature' I Date' 55 LONG LANE UPPER DARBY, PA. 19082 I I I 1 I I I ········-·····-···-································ THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 9 More on SOTHEBY & CO. Announce the Second Sale by Auction of VETERAN & VINTAGE CARS Motor Cycles, Traction Engines, Horse -drawn Carriages, and Machinery of Antiquarian Interest to be held at Beaulieu, Hampshire, England on Saturday, 9 July 1966 (vi ewing 2 days previously) Catalogues available early June, price $3.00 post free from: eSotheby's of London Ltd., 980 Madison Avenue, New York, New York 10021 or • Sotheby & Co. P.O. Box 242 34-35 New Bond Street London, W.l. Telephone: HYDe Park 7242 AUTHENTICALLY STYLED High Quality Beige Washable Cotton Fabric The Type-1 3 Bugatti which French member Girod-Eymery located in Russia has now been disassembled, and found to be generally excellent. These photos show the condition of the body, chassis and engine while under restoration in the workshop of the Museon di Rodo at Uzes in the south of France. The rear of the frame bears some resemblance to the later Bugatti practice but the engine appears to be the most advanced feature of the car. This model was Bugatti's first under his own name, and was built from 1911 - 1 3. A similar car is now rumored to be stored in an unrevealed location in Argentina! 1966 HCCA NATIONAL TOUR YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK September 8-9-10-11 Men's sizes: 36-46, Regular & Long. Ladies' sizes : 32-44, Regular. Larger or smaller sizes must be specia lly made; allow extra time. PRICE- $12.95 each. CAPS- $3.95 each, matching material. Men's : Hat Size. Ladies': One size (elastic back) Enclose check or money order with order. Sh ipment via P.P. Prepaid in USA. SPEC IAL LETTERING (Embroidery ). Write us for prices covering your needs on special back lettering on dusters or for depicting make of car, etc. Donovan INDU STR IES P.O. BOX 10184 - DALLAS 7, TEXAS Round the Worl CONTR IBUT ED BY NELSON HOLMWOOD A Oak Bungalow at Burdwan, Bengal, India. One of the Government rest houses. Waiting for Ferry, Kalyan, India . The tires are covered to protect them from the sun. Who has the right of way? Near Kandy, Ceylon. "Mrs. Harriet Clark Fisher started on her world journey, July 19, 1909. It ended on August 16, I 91 o, making her tour a year and one month lacking three days. "Mrs. Fisher's party included Mr. Harold Fisher Brooks, a nephew, who has a responsible position in the management of her anvil works, and who drove the car; Albert Bachellor, cook, secretary, and man of all work, and Maria, Italian maid. "'I had everything built to order with a view to economy of space and weight, at the same time securing all the comfort and convenience possible,' said Mrs. Fisher in describing her equipment. 'I had a celebrated tent maker of Paris construct my tent, and when I called for it, it was all folded and ready for delivery, the maker assuring me that everything was all right. I was not satisfied with buying a tent that way and told him I wanted to see the tent set up and to understand its workings. He said this could not be done except in the street and if he attempted that the g endarme would arrest him. I sent my interpreter to the gendarme, who good naturedly consented to allow the inspection, and the tent was spread in the Place V en dome, Paris, attracting a large crowd and several newspaper photographers.' "' vVe carried a tent,' said Mrs. Fisher, in describing her equipment, 'several cooking utensils, a large tea basket full of china, and two trunks. We roughed it all along the roads, sending ahead by express, trunks containing clothing necessary for our appearance at social functions. " 'Our tank contained forty-two gallons of gasolene and we had an extra tank under the tonneau, which allowed us to cover 375 miles easily. We had to buy our gasolene and send it ahead to points nearest our stopping places, and frequently go after our supplies in bullock carts. " 'We left New York with eight tires, four on the machine and four extra ones,. and strange to say they lasted us throughout our journey until we reached our own country. Then we used up twelve more tires, making twenty all told.' "Mrs. Fisher was enthusiastic over the fine roads they found in India, where they drove over a stretch of road I zoo miles long and as level as a floor. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 ·n a Locomobile FROM THE LOCOMOBILE .BOOK, 1911 " 'In Japan the roads were perfect,' she said, 'and in both countries I was given every assistance. In India I was escorted for miles into the country, and, as I went to Japan with the Gaekwar of Baroda and his party, I was treated as a guest of the Mikado, whose emissaries escorted me and furnished me with important maps.' "Mrs. Fisher was enthusiastic in h er praise of her Locomobile. " 'Just to think,' she said, ' we m ade the trip around the world, over all so rts of roads, across deserts of hot sand, down precipitous mountain sides and through rivers, without mishap more se rious than blowing out of tires, and breaking of the pet cock on the oil tank. Our greatest annoyances occurred after our return to our own country. I don't believe that any other car cou ld ha ,. ;:; stood a stronger test, and I want Mr. Brooks to have all the credit for taking the car over its remarkable journey, for h e certainly used rare judgment in handling the machine and getting us out of uncomfortable situations. "'The only assistance we had to have was in crossing the Tapi River, in Southern India. The Tapi is a broad, shallow river, with sandy bottom too shallow to require a bridge, and yet too deep for us to get through with our own power. As was the case everywhere we traveled, th e government gave us every possible assistance, and you may be sure we were a picturesque gro up hitched to sixteen pairs of oxen and escorted by a do zen native policemen, with their hea ds bound up in great white turbans and splashing bare legged through the water on eit her side of us. Our luggage and equipment followed us on ox carts, while a curious crowd watc h ed us from the banks, many of the boys following into the water knee deep.' "Mrs. Fisher has resumed the active management of her factory in Trenton, and it was there in her office, overlooking the Delaware, that the Herald reporter found her taking up the threads of bu siness where she left off a year ago. She is proud of h er shop and of her men, and takes pleasure in showing one through the 'plant and discussing improvements. On the river front of the sh op is a flourishing cornfield, and it is on this ground that she hopes to build •Continued on nex t page A Ferry in Ceylon. Crossin g the Fu ji Rapids, Japan . (Taken in the rain .l A Ca mp in the Hakone Mountains, Japan. (Taken just after daybreak.! 12 Round the world in a Locomobile. Crossing Hamana Bay, Japan, in a ferry consisting of two sail boats lashed together. In the sage brush. Nevada, U.S.A. Where the party stayed at Lucin, Utah. homes for all her men and their families. Romping about the place was her pet Boston bull terrier, Honk-Honk, who made the trip around the world with his mistress. "' Oh, you must come up to the house and see Billikens,' she said, and into the very machine in which the world tour was made, the big, gray Locomobile, with its paint rubbed off, its sides scratched and its leather parts worn to a frazzle, the reporter was whisked, and the way in which the Fisher home was reached showed that the car had lost none of its speed or power by its twenty-thousand-mile run. "Billikens is a minute monkey who became a part of Mrs. Fisher's entourage at Ceylon, and immediately became the playmate of Honk-Honk, the Boston bull terrier. "The Fisher home is now a museum of travel souvenirs and of American Beauty roses, her favorite flower. The most striking souvenir is a collection of miniature figures representing all the servants of an Indian household, and trades people. These were given to her at a dinner in Calcutta. These remarkable little figures are fashioned of native clay, perfect in detail, natural in pose, and draped in most realistic style by the wife of their creator, who is the only artist of his kind in Calcutta. "'Now that I am back home again,' said Mrs. Fisher, 'I have to look hard at these souvenirs in order to realize that the whole thing has not been a dream. My tour was like a journey through fairyland. I seem to bear a charmed life. Time and again, quite unknown to us, we were on the brink of disaster, but always something interposed between us and what seemed, at least, injury and possible death. "'Once, in Japan, after we had left At ami and gone through the famous pass outside the city, and were proceeding along the narrow winding road opposite Hakone mountain, something within prompted me to say "stop". We got out of the car and went forward a few feet to find that the bridge had been entirely destroyed by fire and that foot travelers had laid a few bamboo poles and rubbish across the place to enable them to pass. Had we not stopped at the instant I shouted, we would have plunged over a precipice several hundred feet below to instant death. It was impossible for us to turn back, so we pitched our tent and made ourselves as comfortable as we could on this narrow mountain road, while the men went back for assistance. The government at once sent a small army of laborers and built a new bridge for us. Such courtesies were extended to us on every hand, the Japanese government lending me valuable maps and THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 13 guide books which I am under an oath to return. "• Another thrilling experience was that of crossing the Fuji river in Japan. The big Locomobile was run onto a raft built of two boats lashed together and covered with boards. On this we embarked and were in tow of a tugboat, when the bamboo poles holding the tow line parted and the raft drifted helplessly upon the rocks in the middle of the river. The machine could not be gotten off, so a pontoon bridge was built in sections out to the raft and the car run off onto the bridge. Then another section ofbridges was built and the car transferred, until they finally landed us on the opposite shore after many hours of labor and anxiety. "• But don't think that the tour was one succession of narrow escapes. Far from it. It was rather one continuous and splendid reception, intermingled with amusing incidents from the time I crossed the Turkish border until I left the shores of Japan. It was more the tour of a royal personage than that of a simple American woman traveling for her health .. "• When I left the United States my first objective point was Contrexville, France, where I had planned to take the cure. My few weeks' stay there, where I met many old friends and acquaintances of Europe, with daily automobile trips 'round about and short tours through the country, soon restored me to health. My triumphs began here where my car won the best cup and two medals in an automobile tournament. From here I went to beautiful Lake Como, where I have my villa and keep my American built yacht. Again my good fairy looked after me, for in the annual regatta my yacht, the Carlotta, won the Marchesa Trotti Cup for speed and for being the best decorated yacht on the lake. After this, everywhere I traveled was among and over flowers. "• I left Italy when the peach trees were in blossom, and toured Japan with the petals of cherry blossoms strewing our path. I have spent many summers at my Italian villa (The Villa Carlotta), and have met and entertained there many notable persons from all over the world. It was at Como that I met His Highness the Maharajah Bahadur of Benares, who so royally entertained me in India, and through him met His Highness the Gaekwar of Baroda and his interesting family, who invited me to spend several weeks at their palace.' "vVhen her party reached the outposts of the province ruled by Sir Prabnu Narayan Singh, His Highness sent the royal coach, in charge of his private secretary, with two coachmen, two footmen, and two outrunners to meet Mrs. Fisher. When the party reached the Ganges, opposite the palace, Mrs. Fisher was carried from the coach in a • dandy' by four liveried servants, and boarded the private yacht of the ruler and was ferried across to the marble landing leading up to the palace. The landing and steps were covered with red velvet, and during Mrs. Fisher's entire visit to the potentate her feet were not permitted to touch the earth. "In his palace she met many of the Indian and British notables and on the occasion of a state dinner Mrs. Fisher was decorated by His Highness, who placed about her neck a necklace of spun gold and red silk, red and gold being the colors of her host. "Mrs. Fisher was also entertained for several days by the very wealthy merchant, Matilal Nehru and his wife, in their wonderful palace, Anand Bhawan, at Allahabad, India. Mrs. Clark Fisher is the only white woman who ever slept in this beautiful palace.'' Nelson Ho lmwood of Laguna Beach, California, who contributed this article from the 1911 Locomobile Book is pictured here at the wheel of his 1 908 Locomobile which he and his wife Edna drove across the USA to the Glidden Tour in 1 956. 14 ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• • • i Flori~ a's Original~ •• ••• More than 70 beautifully restored Antique and Classic automobiles are displayed in a "Gay Nineties" setting. •• •• • •• •• ••• Rare and unusual music boxes are played for you in a show you'll always remember. EARLY CYCLES • BLACKSMITH SHOP • LIVERY STABLE • •• ••• •• •• • •• • •• •• •• e •• •• ••• • 3 •• •• • ••• •e 5500 NORTH TAM IAM I TRAIL • SARASOTA, FLORIDA •• e • • ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• HCCA NATIONAL TOUR WHAT YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK SEPTEMBER 8-9-10-11 This car has the looks of a French machine of the period 1903- 1904, and in fact has many of the attributes of a Panhard- Levassor. But there are distinct differences from the standard P-L pictured in the literature. WHAT IS IT? Handwritten on the back of the photo are the names "All Pillsbury" and "Ra lph Whe lan" and a rubber stamp imprint that reads: AUTOMOBILES Vente, Garage, Reparations Essences L. ANSERMIER 6, Rue de Lau sanne, Geneve THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 . c "> ! VI "'........0 15 NOW- REAl. 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CL 37.00 - Terms: check w i th order or c.o.d. A LESTER-ISQUICK ENTERPRISE THE LINCOLN HIGHWAY TIRE CO. P 0. BOX 309 BEDFORD. OH I O 440 14 24-HOUR PHONE (AREA CODE 2 16) 232-9030 16 Touring by Locomobile PHOTOS CONTRIBUTED BY CHARLES FERRETT. Annotations by Dr. Alfred S. lewerenz. AI one of the Hot Springs inland from Oceanside, possibly Warner's, Muriella or Elsinore. At Mission San Luis Rey four miles inland from Oceanside. ~These four snapshots appe,ar to have been taken on a motor trip into the back country east of Oceanside, California. The car is a 1909 Locomobile Model 40 Baby Tonneau. By the fairly new appearance of the car and the clothing of the driver, the trip might have been made in the fall of 1909. This view may have been taken near Palomar Mountain. Early type of California license plate is'visible. Another snapshot at the Hot Springs. ... The same 1909 Locomobile stuck in a wash. This view was evi... dentely taken some time after the Mission San Luis Rey trip, as an auxiliary hand operated oil pump has been added outside of the driver's seat. These three pictures show a 1908 Locomobile, Model H. No infor- • mat ion on the location of the ferry boat "Joseph Kellogg" but .,. clues such as the river and the signs above the stairs which warn that passengers with "calked shoes" are not allowed on the upper deck, plus the type of scenery in the other pictures suggest that this may have been in the Pacific Northwest. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 17 LBAD TIIB PABADB WITH AN EXACT REPRODUCTION OF THE CELEBRATED JE~ftf: ~~ l.Ilumsf Hom FOR MODEL T and cars with 1W' exhaust pipes. Whistle .................. .. $17.85 Model A Cut-Out.... 9.95 Model T Cut-Out.... 8.75 Kick Pedal ............ .. 1.60 All Prices Postpaid EXACT IN EVERY DETAIL ... It is exact because it is made to the exact specifications of the original Aermore. IF IT DOESN'T SATISFY YOU, RETURN IT FOR FULL REFUND Generates a soul-stirring screech- A melodious, deep voiced horn building up to a higher pitched, gigantic, thunderous screech as the cut-out is opened fully or the engine is speeded up. The legendary harmonious call of the Aermore. Exciting and fascinating to your passengers and others nearby. More fun for you. You will drive your antique more because you will enjoy it more. Nothing adds more pleasure to your driving and keen interest in your antique than an Aermore exhaust whistle. Easiest and best installation ever- Don't cut your exhaust system in two. Just make an oblong hole lf2" x 2" with hand tools and clamp the cut-out in place. Gasket and clamps furnished . Order yours today. (&•••• mmnnRinG) • BOX 174-C • CULVER CITY, CALIF. • Phone 397-9878 18 P hrases such as, "What's the action?" "Weah you pahk yo' cah - You go Kokee?" "Look, My Mother, The Car." "You mean you gained 15 pounds just five days on the ship?" will always bring a smile of remembrance to those who participated in the Fremont (California) HCC's "Hawaiian Holiday." Although the actual tour dates were from March 16th (departure of Lurline from San Francisco) or March 21st (PanAro jet departure) through March 31st, many departed from the mainland via plane earlier than this. Seventy-four persons with 26 cars made the trip, including one who bought a Ford for the trip, not caring to chance losing either of his two Pride and Joys on the ocean voyage. Tour mileage was 375, not counting a good bit more for local trips. Monday, March 21st the Lurline arrived at Honolulu. Thirty-three members were on board, various San Francisco and Bay Area members having proven themselves prize winning entertainers at the ship's talent show. The ship was met by early arrivals in their antique cars, and shortly after, the rest of the cars were out of the ship's hold and on the dock. Later that afternoon the rest of the tourists arrived by PanAro Clipper. Tuesday, a full-circle tour of the island of Oahu totaled 116 miles. A beautiful day's drive, ending with a stop at Wheeler Air Force Base, thanks to Col. Frank Hay whose interest in the cars enabled drivers to miss the afternoon freeway rush hour. Wednesday a 40 mile Mt. Tantalus tour took us to National Memorial Cemetary in Punchbowl Crater, to Robert Louis Stevenson's hut at the Salvation Army's famous Waioli Tea Room, and on to Pali Lookout where the first Hawaiian rain wet the HCC party. Over the hill to Waimanalo, past Rabbit Island, into Sea Life Park, past Makapuu Point, the Blowhole, Hanauma Bay, Diamond Head and then back to the Waikiki Beach area. The Luau that night at Hawaiian Village waR tasted, eaten or ignored by the automobilists, but Sweet Leilani and her dancing friends who entertained were given a strong vote of approval. ("Keep your eyes on the EYEBROWS??" Aw, come on, Doc!) Thursday morning the cars were put on a barge to be shipped to the "Garden Island" of Kauai, most westerly of the Hawaiian chain. This day and the next day gave time for a trip to the beach outside the hotel; an Aloha banquet ended the festivities at Honolulu. Saturday, a half hour plane flight and we arrived at Lihue, the "city" on Kauai, and immediately held the much advertised Challange Race. Each busload urged their driver onward to Nawiliwili Harbor, where our automobiles were found all safely under cover. Soon we were on our way back thru Lihue to our Coco Palms Hotel. Here we were given the ROYAL welcome . . . Mary Wong and John Kauo gave us a lei greeting, and Mary had made a sign of over 1,000 vanda orchids bidding us FREMONT BCC HOSTS Hawaiian welcome while the Hotel crew joined in with drum and conch shells. Sunday we made a 62 mile trip, touring easterly and northerly to the end of the road at Ke'e Beach, famous for the Wet & Dry Caves. Then a return to Hanalei Plantation for lunch. This hotel is located at the point on which Hanalei Bay meets the blue Pacific Ocean, and along this beach and nearby a host of films, including South Pacific, were made. The scenery of beaches, lush fields and towering Mt. Waialeale (world's wettest spot) is a beautiful sight. Monday, March 28th we were off on a 98 mile trip to the "Biggest Little City" on the island, Hanapepe, and as the local radio station announced our route and arrival times, we had most of the Islanders waving and grinning at us. We visited an elementary school in Kaumakani and both elementary and high schools at Waimea, at their request. Students were let out of class to see our vehicles. And at our lunch stop, a group of little pre-school charmers (ages 3 and 4) whose teacher had brought them down, welcomed us with a few choral selections. Lunch, then on to Kokee (Hawaiian for "canyon" we were told, but it was all up). The view from the top was enchanting, when the clouds opened up - those who made the top were above the clouds, the planned goal being Waimea Canyon Park Lookout, at least seven miles below the top. Kauaians are so hospitable - we were always being asked by businessmen in little towns to· 9top for soft drinks- they wanted so much to "donate" (as they put it) something to us in return for bringing our cars to them! Tuesday, tourers walked to charter boats for the ride up Wailua River to the aweinspiring Fern Grotto, then back to our antiques and a short drive past Menehune Pond, the first Sugar Mill, and to Waiohi on the south coast for lunch. A 40 mile trip this day. Wednesday, 25 cars were put back on barges to Oahu. Two planes left the airport, and back to the Ilikai Hotel at Honolulu. Thursday, 19 cars were loaded on the Lurline for return to San Francisco, the balance going on a cargo carrier to Southern California. Two airplane flights late that night took us back to the Mainland, and the Tour Chairman was ''one happy fella" when all people and cars landed back home safely! THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 Holiday e BY LAURA LEE MOZZETTI e PHOTOS BY MIKE ROBERTS THE COVER PICTURE by Mike Roberts shows eleven cars parked on the Hanalei Valley overlook. Mike Roberts took to the air for this photo, insufficient elevation being available from the ground. Taking the cover photo, Mike Roberts in a helicopter at treetop level. Photo by Scherry Harrah. Lurline with HCC members aboard arrives off Diamond Head. Mike Roberts photo from helicopter. ~ ~ ........" ~ ~ -r r -r ..... On arrival by PanAm at Honolulu's airport. That's a Pope Hartford hidden behind the crowd . 20 ~'""' ..Dl ~KAUAI WAI~EA Rrt.IUHAU HAWAII HAWAII Wakiki Hula girl and Bill Harrah's Pope Hartford. Rain! - Get that top up quick! Fern Grotto. Windward coast of Oahu. Hawaiian cranking style demonstrated. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 21 From the Punchbowl, looking toward Wakiki and Diamond Head. Mike and Ellen Roberts in their 1906 Stevens-Duryea receive a Hawaiian welcome. Mike, with nearly a hundred previous trips to the Islands, helped organize the HCC excursion. Merl and Joy Ledford of San Diego and their Peerless. 22 At Nuuanu Pali. Menehune fish ponds on Kauai. Thru a banana p lantat ion . THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 23 Cars come off the barge at Nawiliwili on Kauai after the voyage from Oahu. 1966 HCCA NATIONAL TOUR Cars parked at Coco Palms, our home on Kauai. 0 0 SEI'TEMBER 8-9-10-11 SEE CENTER SPREAD FOR DETAILS 0 " Yosemite Valley and other points of interest such as Tuolumme Meadows, Glacier Point and the Big Trees. Plus Evening Entertainment. For information write: BudCatlett, Tour Chairman, P.O.BoxlO,Reno,Nevada 0 24 Lumahai Beac h and the Na Pali cliffs. End of the road on Kauai. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 25 Hanalei Valley was a beautiful rest stop. Valley of Hanalei. Waimea Canyon lookout point. The Harrahs with their Pope Hartford pose for a PanAm publicity shot. / / / Herb Huber' s Patterson goes the Lurline for the trip 26 They GOT a horse This fascinating series of photos comes from member Herb Schoenfeld of Mercer Island , Washington. One of his employees, Marguerite Jones, was on this trip in 1911, en route from Dubuque, Iowa to Portage, Wisconsin . Stopping to visit friends near Packwaukee, the Rambler broke down. They spent two weeks in a Packwaukee hotel whi le the car was being repaired. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 27 SECOND ANNUAL BEND SWAP MEET AND CAB SHOW AUGUST 5th and 6th,1966 WOOSTER HIGH SCHOOL- RENO, NEVADA SPONSORED BY HARRAH'S AUTOMOBILE COLLECTION CAR SHOW SCHEDULE OF EVENTS Saturday -August 6,1966 SWAP MEET SCHEDULE&DF EVENTS& Friday Saturday- August 5th 8:00A.M. -4:30 P.M. 6th Registration-- Registration 8:00AM ro 10:00 AM. Entrants may also register on Friday, August 5th from 10:00 AM co 4:30 PM at the Winton House Car in the Swap Meet Area. Registration will close PROMPTLY at iO:OO AM Saturday. To facilitate planning, a fee of $1.00 will be charged all cmrams pre-registering by mail for each car entered. Entry muse be postmarked no later than Midnight, Friday July 28, 1966. All subscquem Registration Fees will be $5.00. - All fees to be applied ro cleaning of grounds. Scares at 7:00 AM Car Shaw-- A fee of Sl.OO will he charged swappers pre-registering by mail for each space ( 10'x25'). Entry must be postmarked no Iacer than Midnight, Jul y 2H, 1966. All subsequent Registration Fees will be 55.00 - All fees to be applied to cleaning of grounds. 10:00 AM to 4:00 PM. Judging will begin Saturday at 10:00 AM. Cars will be judged in the following categories: ANTIQUE: All cars 1915 and earlier. VINTAGE 1916 thru 1924: All cars 1916 thru 1924. VINTAGE 1925 chru 1933: All cars, not classics, 1925 thru 1933. Swagpers Must register and be assigned to an area on a first come first served has is. To facilitate planning Swapping Material \X' ill be limited ro pares, cars, and related items - no household items or items. not related to old cars will be permitted. VINTAGE 1934 chru 1942: All cars, not classics, 1934 chru 1942. CLASSIC: All cars rewgnized as classics by the Classic Car Club. CONTEMPORARY-SPECIAL INTEREST: All cars 1943 through the present day but having trU<.: special interest. Cars entered in this class will be subject to strict entry committee approval. Award Ceremonies \X1 ill begin at 3:30 PM. 1st and 2nd Place Trophies will be awarded in all six · judging categories. Troph1es will also be awarded for the following: Car Coming Longest Distance. Best of Show. Special Swapper's Award. Dash Plaques to all Entrants. Car Shaw Area GENERAL INFORMATION Security Officers \Xi ill be present on grounds 2-i hours per day. Bulletin Boards Cars Far Sale Refreshment Stands \X' ill be available for posting items "for sale" and "wamed". \l(i ill be provided a special area. Cars for sale are invited. \X1 ill be open to car dubs for their own meets on Sunday, August 7, 1966. Including an operating 1915 Popcorn \l(iagon, will be on the premises as well as an information booth, telephone booths and ocher facilities for the wmforr and conveniem:e of parricipams and spectators. Car Shaw Send Applications Open to all members of all car dubs and open to all cars from Amiques through cars of 1942 vintage - Later cars of interest accepted on application and approval by Entry Committee. And requests for information coRA Y JESCH, P.O. Box 10, RENO, NEVADA. Send $1.00 for each swap space desired. Send $1.00 for each car cmered. State Year, Make, Model, Body Style, and number of cylinders. A recent photo of car must accompany application. 28 \._f:\( /'~;~~.'"~~~~~-"~'=;;~~~::::: TRENTON, N.J., REGIONAL GROUP correspondent Malcolm E. Minton, writes of his club's active schedule of events the latter half of 1965. July saw no less than five major outings, including the Independence Day Holiday parade, a joint trek with the North Shore Antique Auto Club of Point Pleasant, N.J.; a shopping center display in Fairless Hills; a scavenger run and picnic which wound up at activity chairman Frank Rue's place; and finishing up the month with an overnight run to historic Gettysburg, Pa., covering approximately 400 miles round trip. From a dozen to nearly 40 cars found their way in each of these events. In August the club had an overnight run to Wilmington, Delaware, where the Longwood Gardens were visited, plus making a stop at the T. Clarence Marshall Museum of Steam Cars in Yorklyn, Del. In November the "Frost Bite Run" took a shivering group to Bowman's Hill Park on the beautiful Delaware River at Washington's Crossing, Pa. The year concluded with the annual Christmas party dinner dance at the historic Yardville, N.J. tavern. The club's president, Howard Carr, was reelected to a second term. began its tour season with a shakedown to Malibu, taking the group from Pacific Palisades thence over 50 miles of Malibu mountain roads and a picnic at Tapia Park. James Zordich was in charge of plans. The big HCCSC annual three-day tour this year was held in Death Valley April 22-24, with Howard Campbell as tour chairman. Highlights of the trip included stops at Scotty's Castle, driving through Wildrose Canyon with an overnight stop at Stove Pipe Wells Hotel. The tour crossed over to Beatty, Nevada, thence to Rhyolite. The last leg of the journey included Furnace Creek Ranch, Bad Water (279 feet below sea level) and out the Valley over Jubilee Pass, then home via Highway 91. SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA REGIONAL GROUP has been busy for nearly a year now preparing for the 1967 National Tour. Under the guidance of Herb Schoenfeld, tour chairman, much groundwork has been laid for what the club's "Evergreen Gas-ette" reports will be a tour that'll make everyone who participates glad he came. The Sheraton Motor Inn will be tour headquarters in Seattle and the Bayshore Inn as headquarters in Vancouver, B.C. National Tour Coordinator will be HCCA Director Bud Catlett who will be liaison man between the S-T Regional and the National Board. Already the tour has 38 cars signed up. Tour dates are July 17-20, 1967. SEATTLE-TACOMA REGIONAL GROUP at Fresno,. experienced a very successful swap meet (their 7th annual) held in Madera at the Fairgrounds, and attended by an estimated 1,000 persons with about 60 or so vendors doing a good bit of trading. A sizeable delegation of Southern California members were present - including four past National Presidents and two former National directors. People from Nevada and Northern California were in strong numbers too. Coming the farthest was Wally Johnson of Friend, Nebraska, member of the Omaha Regional Group. CENTRAL CALIFORNIA REGIONAL GROUP NEVADA REGIONAL GROUP'S Steering Column reports a busy schedule of events. All roads will lead to the 9th Biennial Reno Tour, come June 20-23. The attractive brochures are out to all owners of 1915 and older antique autos (active HCCA members) and the mad rush to sign up is on. Later in the summer. August 5 and 6, the 2nd annual Reno Swap Meet and Car Show will be held at Wooster High School, Reno, sponsored by Harrah's Automobile Collection. Applications and requests for information on that event should be addressed to Ray Jesch, P.O. Box 10, Reno, Nevada. ARIZONA REGIONAL GROUP , Tucson, had a good opening event for the year March 20th when a potluck picnic and white elephant auction took place at Palo Verde Camp near old Tucson. All profits made on the auction were turned over to the club treasury. The Arizona Group is planning a major tour in August, called the White Mountain Tour, located in the vicinity of the 1964 Coronado Trail tour. KANSAS CITY REGIONAL GROUP'S "Cranker" reports the 1966 Midwest National Tour will be held in July, sponsored by the Tulsa, Oklahoma Regional in conjunction with their annual Trail of Tears Tour. VALLEY OF THE SUN REGIONAL GROUP, Phoenix, Arizona, has just concluded a mighty successful antique auto show, boasting sixty beautifully restored cars, displayed at the Chris-Town Shopping Showplace for a week-long stand. Chairman of the event was activities chairman Bob Nelson. Drawing particular attention was Joe Gest's little 1902 French Prunel as well as his high wheeled Holsman. Charles Black's 7,000 lb. Peerless also competed for admirers. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 29 We're on our way to the great Pomona SWAP MEET July 16-17 Los Angeles County Fairgrounds in Pomona Shade - Food - Refreshments - Parking HoRsELEss CARRIAGE (tuB Of SOliTHERN CALIFORNIA 0 rBox 526 Trenton, N.J. will once again cooperate with the J:.a CreJcenta Cali/ornia Mercer Hospital in sponsoring the 8th annual Antique Auto Show at the Field Artillery Grounds at Trenton. Date for the event is June 18th. EMBLEMS bought - sold traded Made to order. Valley of the Sun (Phoenix, Arizona) members Bob • Bitler and Barbara Jacobs were married recently in an authentic 1912 wedding. Barbara wore a 1912 Wedding dress made of ecru colored silk with lace neck and sleeves decorated with half shell pearls. Matron of honor and best man, Verlyn and Harvey Ross, were also dressed in appropriate costume. An interesting comparison can be made between the photo of Bob and Barbara, and the old photo of Bob's parents wedding in 1911. The 1912 theme will soon be continued in Phoenix events when the Bitlers appear in their 1912 Chalmers, now under restoration. Jlarry Pul/er MASCOTS, MOTOR METERS 200 Miniature Emblems Listed - 372 Racing Car Emblems Listed HCCA NATIONAL TOUR SEPTEMBER 8-9-10-11 YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK Group has been established at Madison, Wisconsin. They plan to limit membership to owners of pre-1916 cars, and report a fast growing interest in early car-only tours in their area. A new Regional Santa Clara Valley (California) had 3.8 cars turn out for their annual Blossom Tour. A full story on this event will appear in the next GAZETTE. Arizona Regional Group at Tucson plan another of Glidden Tour brochures and entry forms are available from HCCA headuarter. The VMCCA are sponsoring this year's event, to be held in Florida. HCCA members are eligible, and the fact that this is the first Glidden Revival in Florida should insure it'll being a top event. their famed driving tours this summer. The "White Mountain Ramble" will be held August 17-18-19-20 and will take in about 400 miles of serious driving over mountain roads through some of the West's greatest scenery. The tour is limited to 30 cars in top condition; tour costs will be minimal. Details · from Tour Chairman Paul Eoff, 5236 E. 20th St., Tucson, Arizona. Zip Codes must be added to all GAZETTE mailing address. Please send yours to club headquarters: HCCA I 9031 Florence I Downey, California I 90240. 30 THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 31 VACATION STYLES - 1915 By Helen Frye T'he new look of 1915 was firmly entrenched by midsummer; the draped, puffed and slit skirts of 1914 were no longer to be found in the pattern books. To quote PICTORIAL REVIEW for July, 1915, "As the season advances, the short wide skirt is being accepted more and more, even by conservative women. At first it seemed such a radical innovation that women who do not like extreme styles refused to wear the abbreviated models which, in some cases, reached little lower than the shoe tops. But it became apparent that the full skirts when long have a pronounced tendency to make the wearer look old, and gradually the shorter models came into vogue. To look stylish, a full skirt should escape the ground by at least three inches, and young slender women wear their skirts from four to six inches ab6ve the ground." These skirts achieved width with plaits; plaited or gathered flounces attached to hip yokes (which were exceedingly popular), or by the new circular cut. Waistlines were two inches above normal, and dress waists were quite varied; tight fitting and laced peasant styles were common, surplice, vestees and suspenders and bloused effects over guimpes for contrast. Fresh variations of that old friend the middy blouse and a new rather long overblouse which slipped over the head and was belted were worn with the new circular skirt or six-gored type for tennis or golf or other "outing" wear. Necklines were quite generally low but the stand-up turned down collar was still good and the Quaker collar an innovation. Many dresses and blouses were ornamented with a stand-up plaited frill at the back of the neck which sometimes narrowed and followed the neckline around to the front of the blouse. We illustrate an interesting novelty shirtwaist whose collar is cut in one with the waist, the raglan sleeve being carried to the top of the collar making a convertible neckline. All the old terms are used in this PICTORIAL REVIEW: "princess, tunic, bolero or Zouave jacket, guimpe and tiers", but all have adapted interpretations. It is in fact quite fascinating to follow these same terms of fashion throughout the years as they emerge as the dernier cri and become submerged again. Note the 1915 version of the motor coat; fabrics recommended for it were tweed, gabardine, homespun, heather mixtures, covert cloth and whipcord. These fabrics plus serge, cotton corduroy, poplin, linen, pongee, taffeta and faille list the most popular materials for suits and skirts. Some of these and laces, batiste, voile, wash silks and crepe-de-chine were favored for dresses and blouses. A renewed interest in separate skirts and blouses flared. Hats were quite moderate in size if brimmed and trimmed with ribbon or flowers. Most popular were small rather high turbans with compact trimmings of flowers, ribbon folds or an occasional light feather fancy. One innovation for that year was a sort of shepherdess hat tipped up in the back with gay flowers on top and ribbons under the brim. Answering a reader inquiry for "something more becoming than the tie under the chin motor bonnet" a taffeta Tam O'Shanter was suggested. We show two versions from a 1915 copy of WoMAN's WoRLD MAGAZINE. There was a budding interest in styles for the young girl as a separate group emphasizing a jaunty youthfulness, rather than just shorter versions of their mothers' fashions. Dressmakers were still very busy, but ready-made clothes, once scorned, were improving in quality and modishness, especially in suits, skirts and coats, and being accepted. It was a period of trial · and error, the itch to try new ideas evident. Having achieved comfort and mobility, La Mode's problem was to make them "chic." 32 - The g irl N O.who8771motors will lik e e ither of t hese little caps. The first is illustrated of navy blue velvet and will 27 WoMAN's WoRLD MAGAZINE, December 1915 33 PICTORIAL REVIEW, March 1915 34 Plan to Attend the lSth Photo by Mike Roberts ail •••••••••••••••••••••••••• I !•••••••••••••••••••••••••• HCCA NATIONAL TOUR! ~nual 35 SEPTEMBER 8-9-10-11 YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK 1966 National Horseless Carriage Tour Office of Tour Coordinator Dear Member : On behalf of the National Tour Committee may I extend an invitation to attend the H.C.C. -National Tour September 8th-12th at Yosemite National Park . We would love to have you participate and share our fun during these four days and enjoy the events outlined in the following tour itinerary . Bud Catlett, Tour Coordinator • Thursday- September 8th Registration at Camp Curry 11 :00 a .m. to 3:00p.m. Explore Yosemite Valley on your own . Cocktail party 6:00 p.m. followed by Get Acquainted Banquet and entertainment. • Friday - September 9th Breakfast on your own . The tour will leave Camp Curry for Tuolumne Meadows at 9 :00 a.m. This will be a rather long day as it takes us up from the floor of the vall ey to the high mountain country in the eastern section of the park where you will view some of the most scenic mountain country in the western United States. Lunch stop at Tuolumne Meadows on the shore of Lake Tenaya . Return to Camp Curry for no host cocktail party at 6 :00p .m. followed by a banquet and entertainment. RESERVATION INFORMATION The package price is $115 .00 per couple or $75 .00 single . Children 3 through 9 using rollaway bed in parents room , $40 .00 . The full amount or $35.00 deposit must accompany each reservation. Entry fee to Yosemite Park will be on your own. Send reservations and requests for information to Bud Catlett, P.O. Box 10, Reno, Nevada. • Saturday - September 1Oth Breakfast on your own. Leave 10:00 a .m. for Glacier Point then to the Wawona Hotel where we will enjoy a buffet lunch at the historic old Wawona Hotel. After lunch we will tour to Tuolumne Big Trees, one of the most magnificent stands of gigantic redwoods to be found in the Sierra . Return to Camp Curry for cocktail party at 6 :30 p .m. fol lowed by Awards Banquet and entertainment. RESERVATION DEADLINE AUGUST 25TH, 1966 REQUIREMENTS FOR PARTICIPATING CARS AND OCCUPANTS 1. Horseless Carriages limited to 1915 madels and older. No exceptions to this rule. 2. All cars must be in good condition with respect to paint and exterior portions. Judging will be done according to the rules established by the National Board. 3. Public liability and property damage insur~nce must be carried on all vehicles. 4. Suitable costumes must be worn at all times. 5. No commercial advertising will be permitted on any participating car, with the exception of the official • Sunday - September 11th H.C.C. insignia provided at point of joining tour. Sleep late Breakfast on your own. Visit with your friends and depart for home at your lei sure . (Please cut out or duplicate) _ _ __ __ __ NAME _ _ ADDRESS PASSENGERS D ____ _ _ REGIONAL GROUP _ _ _ _ _ _ CITY ZONE __ __ST ATE _ ALL NAMES AS DESIRED ON J.D . BADGE _ __ - - - - -- _ _ _ - - - -- -·-- ·---·- CHECK IF CHILD WILL SHARE YOUR ROOM . MAKE OF CAR _ _ _ _ __ _ _YEAR _ _ _ _ MODEL._ __ __ NUMBER OF CYLINDERS _ _ _ _ _ CAR LICENSE NUMBER_ INSURANCE CARRIER _ _ _ __ _ _ BODY STYLE ____ _ _ STATE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ 36 Early Auto Technical Drawings Compiled by Harry B. Johnson Simplex · De Dion Engine (as used in early Pierce Motorette) JY:t~:Cl. \!l'uOiC 1,..- - - ·-· ---·--il'·'--···---·~ ' l-::·---'·-·.-.-.-.-, =~---.·--.-,-: ~- = : =====-·1 Two Cylinder Ford 37 Locomobile Steam Engine ~. o,~ 1912 Cadillac ~ Stanley Steamer 1904 Packard 38 N.Y. TO PARIS WINNER 93 George Schuster, driver of the New York-to- Paris Thomas Flyer, celebrated his 93rd birthday recently. He is pictured (right) with Tom Mahoney, coauthor of their new book The Longest Auto Race, published by the John Day Company. Schuster and Mahoney are holding a handmade birthday card sent by artist Peter Heick; the heading reads, "Happy Birthday to the man who carried the flag." EARLY CHEVROLET HISTORY by Doug Bell is the latest in Floyd Clymer's series of historical automotive books. Passenger cars from 1912 to 1928 and trucks from 1918 to 1945 are covered in detail, with lists of specifications and serial numbers and hundreds of good photos . The book is arranged by model categories convenient for reference and the 198 page book surely represents the most complete and accurate effort possible. Author Doug Bell is widely recognized as the top Chevrolet authority. A section on makes closely associated with Chevrolet is something entirely new, and a particularly fascinating aspect that will be new to nearly all readers. Some 17 makes and their relationship to Chevrolet are covered, ranging from well known cars like the Little to curious makes such as the Monroe. A good value at $3.00· postpaid from Floyd Clymer, 222 N. Virgil, Los Angeles 4. Floyd Clymer's VOLKSWAGEN OWNER HANDBOOK has just appeared in its 8th edition, and covers the current 1300 model and all previous "beetles." This 284 page book goes into greater detail than most owners will need to know, and the text and nearly 500 illustrations make clear every aspect of the vehicle. An excellent bargain at $3.00, this new edition has full color covers and includes Clymer's famous test report on the VW made over the autobahns and country roads of Germany. Decorative· insurance f'7.7l , "•!QUE AUTOi t.:..:J il•'~ ~ VOLKSWAGEN 1600 OWNERS HANDBOOK is Floyd Clymer's new book on the new Fastback, Squareback and Varient models - the book also includes all the 1500 models produced the past few years. Nearly 500 photos, charts and drawings and a complete explanation of all parts of the car make this 268 page book invaluable to the VW owner or intending purchaser. Price is $4.00 postpaid from Clymer Publications, 2'22 N. Virgil, Los Angeles 4. The Insurance policies issued by the J . C. .Taylor Co. Inc. of Upper Darby, Pa. now have a "new look" - special pictured follows fication or rather, an "old" look, for the antique and classic policies now have an early Mercedes on the face of the policy and the decorative typography the same theme. The policy's jacket and the owners identi card also have the new appearance. Gazette Binders STURDY BINDERS "m~~ SPECIALLY IMPRINTED HOLD TWO TO THREE YEARS. EASY TO USE . $3.00 Foreign countries, $3.50 Horseles s Carriage Club of America 9031 E. Florence A v enue Downey, California WANTED : Old photos of home made soap box racers for a coming Gazette feature on these once popular sidewalk vehicles. - EDITOR THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 liarralYs BELOVED METZ The nimble Metz my uncle owned was light enough for friction drive. Those slight inequities not round where friction met the plate flywheel were cured, in part, by bantam pounds, which let Metz climb in creeper speeds the region's sandy chico mounds. A car well suited to such deeds! Out-demonstrating drives through steel was Unk's delight. But when he bought a Carter Car, sheer avoirdupois defeated what were Metz's ploys. Unk carried frictions in a sack; asked for, in vain, his money back. The second owner of the Metz displayed its stunts, won many bets; but overreached himself at last by rigging the reverse too fast. Third-hand, or fourth, it met a wreck and we lost track of it from there. Years later, on another quest -the restoration of a Bear! saw the Metz as rusted junk among some scrapped cars oozing gunk. I looked at Metz parts did the work of gear transmissions scorned by Unk, and saw that now its friction was an old mail-order catalog, its paper, processed from the log, set edgewise between driven discs. Those thousand edges made convection were, doubtless, bolstered in their work by whipple-tree and harness section! CHEV FOUR NINETY: the model number was its price Remember when t he Chevrolet "Four-Ninety" touring first appeared? The cars displayed on Dealer's Row had bullfrog springs in front, their splay reached forward to twin axle bolts. Those bolts looked sturdy, yet they sheared encountering roads' outsized jolts. Prim Chevists carried extras in that catch-all underneath the seat, and men who wore the desert grin, upon the floor, among the feet. That brisk "Four-Ninety" car had verve. It out-performed the stodgy "T" with two speeds while the Chev had three. Many its faults, though quick to serve. Some owners hauled an "ex" to save perhaps long walks when that part gave; an extra clutch (its cone had ripped out more rear ends than mudholes stripped; knocked down stout backwalls of garages). Some hauled a stick for shifter, should equipment gear-stalk prove poor wood. A how-to-do-it book (detailed) was handy with the water pailed, end-wrenches poised and capscrews clean. (Those Northway Heads brought on more calls for crack-repair, than barrooms brawls with Ketchel there and drunken-mean.) When GM bought the potent name, corrected many early faults, the Chev went on to first-place fame which sires this season's catapaults. But some will not forget the car once harassed leaders as a "crate". Rest well, "Four-Ninety", heady wine that needled Fords and overweight contender cars with shifting-gate. Your emblem, and adventure, twine. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 41 ORIENTAL BUCKBOARD Our rural carrier back from war, brought home an Oriental car; a slight assembly friction driven, rear engined. Nine horsepower was given by one big cylinder. "What rush?" its slogan as with one-lunged Brush. By current standards not equipped, the Oriental drove as shipped. No top or windshield, but a rash of pigeon holes made up the dash, held mail for patrons of the route. And I can hear our Carrier yet, -best known as Buckboard Vic the Vet had fought in China, at Peking, just holler, with no bell to ring, that yip Marines made set to shoot, while boxing letters he would bring. PERENNIAL There was a man my neighbor knew who knew a man of means that built a carburetor flue wrung out of gasolines economy complete. What's more, its mix was full of beans. That car it bolted to, I hear, could twist sound casings from the rims, yet average 50 miles per quart. This carb, I ordered; went to court to get delivery. Then learned the man of means won't sell to me because a town's economy is more important than my yen. The judge spoke learnedly of tort, seeing so little gas is burned by buyers of this thrifty pot in other states, pump hands stand palely in tall weeds of each filling station once served gas guzzlers of our nation, while shoeless offspring steal for bread. Vic's car's name didn't mean a thing -it being made at Waltham, Mass., with buckboard frame and little brass. For Vic, no motor idealist, the stuff left off was never missed. The engine never missed frills either. Put, put, it said when sun was king. Put, put, it said in whoreson weather. So made the trips for several years despite some buggy addicts' fears they wouldn't get the county weekly the day of issue. Vic went cheaply appointed rounds. Gas mileage got to thirty-five with roads turned dry and winds at rest. Top speed was not sensational in friction "high." Enough, it gave with puts of pulling reverberated through each clearing. There's one departure ere carb's va'le: This man of means denies my plea, at least owns no refinery! A lady poet on the route would say puts made the welkin ring, though none' but she could track the thing. I checked the tale and it rings true, vouched for by men that witnesses knew had probity to shame a bond. e VERSES BY STANLEY DONALDSON, SAGUACHE, COLORADO 42 for Reno Tourists: This old map showing an interesting route from the San Francisco-Oakland bay area to Lake Tahoe, was originally published in the Oakland TRIBUNE for Sunday July 19, 1914. It was immediately reprinted by the Feather River Highway Assn. at Oroville, California, and the copy reproduced here was contributed by National Director George Skopecek. The map was drawn by TRIBUNE artist Edmund Crinnion, based on a run made by a Buick Model 25. The mileages are from the Buick's speedometer. Fred Gross and C. A. McGee of the Howard Automobile Company drove the Buick, which was equipped with Goodyear tires. 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 43 BRASSWORI{ l SHELDON GREENLAND First in quality Antique Car Parts 3761 Hillway Dt·ive, Glenda le 8, Califomia A. A. HIND -V I EW MIRRORS . Solid All wices Post Paid- Mon ey Back Guarantee- Add 4'/o Sales Tax Calif. order brass replica o f type us ed dur ing brass e ra for a ll open cor. Price: $12.95 each B. HORN ASSE MBLY: 1, ADAPTER bra ss attaches to hor n , also ho ld s reed L 75 ¢ 8. 2. ADAPTER AND REE D COVER, brass a lso used as bul b con nec tor ... 3 . TUBING bra ss IA ex ibl e) for all old styl e . .... ..... 1 .00 e a. ..... l.OOft. horns 4 . BULB MOUNTING BRACKET, br ass, origina l design ............. ... ................ 3.00 ea. 5. BLACK RUBBER BULB, with brass ferrul e .... ... 2 .50 ea. NOTE : All threade d items above corry a %" x 32 thread. Thread design vari ed w ith a ss ur e fit, it e m s 1 and 2 and 2 ord ere d togeth er. manufacturers. and 4 should To be C. MOD EL T SWITCH KEY, ex act rep l ica of or i ginal ( stee l) .... .. 1 .00 ea . D. FEND ER ANT I-R ATTLE BRACKETS , so li d bra ss, orig in a l duplicates-Set of 4. ... . ... ...... ... 1.95 E. St ewart Speedometer CABLE HOU SING, exact dup li cate in so li d brass. Modern cable mu st be used in si de. (N o t suited for old type linkage). Fittin gs for Jo nes, John s-Manvi ll e and Stewa rt speedo me te rs. Specify. . . ..... .... Comp le te 9 .95 . ri~ ANT laUE AUTO (!) ow . . . " MAIIt Coble comes in 5-ft. le ng th s. If additional le ng th s required add .. ... .. ... $1 per foot G. ANTIQUE CAR OWNERS PLATE , beautiful brass plate, 4 lh x 2lj4 le tt e rin g and e mblem s in brass re lief. Cho ice of b lock or maroon ba ckground. Soec ify co lo r .. .......... 2 .25 eo. K. K-W SW IT CH PLATE. Beautiful, quality reproouct1 on. Dee p acid e tched brass . Black lacquer background .. .. Pric e $2.50 ea . M. WOOD COIL BOXES 1909-11. Du p licate of H e inz~ or Kingston. Will toke mod e rn coil s . Beau tiful maho gany ready for fini shin g. Priced so that yo u discord o ld on e. $9.95 ea. HARIIU!ll • . llil~ -- (~ G. K. ~ I h . Q. ~ fti ':J _/ Q. EARLY "T"- HUB CAPS; BLOCK, SCR IPT AND PLA IN . Stamped of so lid brass, polished to a fine finish. Finest qua lity. Set of four $ 14.95. Specify Block, Scri pt or Plain Type . T WINDSHIELD HIN GE BRACKETS. Stamped of h eavy gauge brass, complete with special machined bolt springs and brass acorn nul . This is a fine qua lity product. Experts cannot te ll it from th e original. $14 .95 pair. MANY MORE QUALITY CAR PARTS . SEND S.S . A.E . FOR BROCHURE BACK ISSUES 1956 Vol. 18, No. 2. Oldsmobile "Old Steady" on cover, early Czechoslovakian cars, Los Angeles museum collection, Seattle antique auto show, Daimler-Benz museum, Reminiscences of the Pierce Arrow. Vol. 18, No.3. Texas Tour story, Ralph De Palma racing record, early cars in San Francisco, The first Indianapolis "500," 1911 Marmon "32" catalog reprint, pre-500 races at Indianapolis, 1896 Cosmopolitan race, women's "Authentic Wardrobe," Italy's old cars, Kimball spaceman captures Model T. Vol. 18, No. 4. Western and Midwest National HCCA tours, F.O. Stanley at Estes Park Colorado, early California touring, Kansas and Bay Area (California) reports, women's touring fashions, Los $1.00 A COPY Californ ia Res1dents Add 4c for Every Dollar (S ale s Tax) Angeles to Denver by Pope Hartford, discovery of Moons, Ward Kimball tells How to Stripe your Horseless Carriage. Vol. 18, No. 5. Reno tour story, Early Motoring in Texas, 11 pages of Buick facts and photos, Automotive Postcards, "Modernizing 1909 to Restoring 1956" by Bill Norton. Vol. 18, No. 6. Color cover picture at Grizzly Flats depot with 1883 Baldwin locomotive, 11 other full color pictures, annual HCCA field meet, 12-page biography of Ferdinand Porsche with pictures of 15 pre-WW1 Porsche cars, Fairfield County (Conn.) meet, "Coast to Coast by Locomobile," multicolor illustrations on "Horseless Carriage Painting Made Easy." ORDER FROM Horseless Carriage Club of America 9031 E. Florence Avenue Downey, Ca lifornia 44 WHAT WAs \N~s ,, y.J '"'i.tti. ? WHAT'S THE YEAR· '''H~T " WHAT DID IT "" COST? THE ORIGINAL COLOR" IS fT?~ ·~RES? WHAT SIZE IT DISCoNl\NUED. ' WHEN WAS DAYTON MOTOR BICYCLE ENGINE IDENTIFIED Sir: Last week in my own newspaper I discovered an ad for an auction for the benefit of the Dexter fire department. Listed in the items to be sold was a Smith motor. After work Saturday, my son and I went down to the auction. We inspected the motor and discovered that someone had tried to make a stationary engine out of it, but that basically it was in its original form, the modifications being on~y what one could do with a few nuts and bolts. I outbid my nearest rival and picked the motor up for $11. My son and I studied the motor carefully, comparing it with other items that we had for my No. 1 Smith motor. It bothers me, however, that there are certain differences of a kind that suggests the motor is neither a Smith nor a Briggs and Stratton. On the top of the carburetor it says Dayton Motor Bicycle. The carburetor is more or less the same as that on the Smith and approximately the same as what was used on the Briggs. It is obviously interchangeable with the carburetor I have on the Smith Motor Wheel. However, nowhere on the motor does the name Smith appear, specifically not on the cylinder where it appears on the casting of my No. 1 Smith Motor Wheel. Furthermore, the cam shaft gear is a straight cut gear rather than a helical cut. The Smith gears are helical cut. The rest of the specifications seem to be the same, including .the bronze connecting rods, with one further exceptiOn. The crank shaft runs in bronze bearings, as contrasted with a kind of roller bearing on the Smith and later it was used in the Briggs. I never heard of a Dayton Motor Bicycle. Was there such a thing? It was clearly of the same design as the Smith, but was it an effort on the part of Dayton to copy, or what? I know it is not significant that the name should be on the carburetor, but on the other hand, when no name appears anywhere else, I begin to ask questions. -JOHN B. JOHNSON Watertown, N.Y. Correspondence for this department should be addressed to: Dr. ALFRED S. LEWERENZ 4107 HOLLY KNOLL DRIVE HOLLYWOOD 27, CALIFORNIA To receive a reply, inquiries MUST include a self·addressed, stamped envelope. Send front and side view photos, engme and serial numbers, bore, stroke, wheelbase, etc. 1911 PRATT -ELKHART RESTORATION Sir: I have just become the owner of a Pratt-Elkhart but I need information on this car. Could you plea~e heip me out as to where I can get the information I need? I am enclosing a self addressed envelope for any information which you can supply. The brass plate on the firewall gives it as a Model T, serial no. 1361. The motor number is 931 ... transmission was manufactured by "Waukesha Motor Co. for the Elkhart Carriage and Harness Mfg. Co." I've been told it is a 1911, but, other than that, nobody seems to know what color it should be or any other helpful info. I don't have a picture to send which would help you. From all appearances, there were N 1T :t t Jll()l11r atta~·h!lwnt f , ,~ a l11n• !.·, but a · ·nmpli·tr· M•1for Htc'~Tit• (JI _:-.\,~~"' l:t~ .<.'IJn:'trlll'· ttnn l ~ lr ougltout. JL.l h. p . I1•. Jr ·:'>• n tllrd•·Jr !J 1r , •r ' l :tiJ!dir.tti(J!l qf \."ICIWt"f t.brnu~h (r nl :~ · h<'l'i ·ln1'' . .l ',,, i'•lWt'f lo..,t ''" in l"ltain or hf'lt clnvt·. S~wr·~1 ' " , 11 ,k...; JWI h•Htr . lti~IL lt·n~itHl m:q.J,III't •l IJ.!Ill' lf• ll J 1. 1 ~ thff•t· -~ H·m rol'kl·r -: pnng fork. ~{l'f' l l111 · lwr rim~ v.·ith 1'' f·xtra twavr. cnrrul,!atf'rll r- •.1 1 tirt: ~ . Built in mt·n'..; and ladies' mod•·l~. \ \ 1' 11.!1 ::-< n11l y l ~ " lh~. SinRI• ~ tSrip control. t<~ L .· · \· rid•· ar11i (;uid•·. We Need HELP YOU START IN BUSINESS ViVfir....-~ ' ' !,· • •I I ,., \1 II; • )\• ' . I,, • .q( l l l' \ !'... , , It· i"r :-; •• . th~ ' Jill • • ' 111 ·· ·1 1\.!, . j\;oJ .\ l·•·ll l · lt<lr· loll..,l· • You really have a rare item in that power unit. from a Dayton Motor Bicycle. Letters such as yours of August 31st make this hobby of mine lots of fun. I hope that the enclosed photo-copies of a reference from pages 330-334, Vol. IV of AUTOMOBILE ENGINEERING, 1918 Edition, will answer most of the questions that you raised. If not please let know. , , io. " · i· l ••rlll llll)' iotr "' •.J I I \' ,I t >•lllt>·lhV '' ith ,., r• · · : ' 11 11 :1,.,n ,j. , ll.t~' I <. p y r· ,;r.., lll:lnll · 111, . • , ; · Ill I t ,' I q~ /) t'l) • (' . ,,. /• •'"f ,lfY dt:.' ~tlr . The Davia Sewing M.. chine Co. Cw-t:l• Department 401 Newat• Aft., Daytoll, 0, THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 45 ANTIQUE TOP 1966 HCCA NATIONAL TOUR AND CAR UPHOLSTERY Mat e rial s MOHAIRS - BROADCLOTH LINERS -T OP MATERIALS YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK September 8-9-10-11 never any front doors, although, there are rear doors. Referring you to the HC Gazette Sept-Oct, 1960, Vol. 22, No. 5 ... my car looks identical to the one pictured on pages 42 and 43, belonging to Joseph DelFave ... except mine does not have the front doors, as I mentioned. Do the references which you list, also pertain to my Pratt-Elkhart? I will be anxiously awaiting your reply. 25 ORIGINAL STYLES Bindings, Welts, Cords, Windlace, etc., etc. For FREE SAMPLES sen d piece of old & yds . wanted . Year, Make & Body Style. Wm. L. u BILL" FESSLER 1517 McGee Street,KANSAS CITY, MO. 64108 Res: Phone PL. 3-0157 -R. D. BOWMAN, Bismark, N. Dak. • In reply to your letter of November 8th, the Elkhart Carriage and Harness Co. was a relatively small producer of automobiles. The firm did little national advertising and I have found comparatively few references on the make. From the information that you sent me I am inclined to believe that your Pratt-Elkhart is a 1911 "40" model. There is some evidence that the E. C. & H . Co. in 1911 furnished bodies at buyer's option either with or without front doors. I am enclosing a photo-copy of the 1911 "40" from FARM & FIRE•SIDE for March 10, 1911. I am also enclosing a photocopy of the Crow-Elkhart specifications from page 153 of the CYCLE AND AUTOMOBILE TRADE JOURNAL for March, 1911. With these for references you should be able to check details of your car to further verify the 1911 date. As Joseph Del Fave's Pratt-Elkhart is probably much like yours what I had to say in the GAZETTE for Sept.-Oct. 1960 probably also applies in your case. You might also write for further information. Mr. Del Fave's address is 21 West Buffalo, Churchville, NY. 14428. tt il tt tt " PROTECT you r car in th e garage and on tour with a durable, heavy (.003 75 ) Dupont polyethelene clear PLAST IC CAR COVER . Strong s titched seams and elas· tic band at bottom. 13 ft. long x 142 in. wid e (sma ll, low ca rs ) . .. $ 9.50 16 ft. long x 162 in. wide (T's and A's) ...... $11.00 19ft. long x 162 in. wide (large touring) .. .. $12.50 21ft. long x 162 in. wide (Grand Monsters ) .. $15.00 ENJOY 72 page book of inform ation a nd photos in the " ANTIQUE AUTO·BIOGRAPHY. Ove r 4000 different cars and trucks listed with dates and places of manufacture. Compiled by National Mark et Reports, In c. Onl y $2 .50. P ostpaid. DECORATE your den or fam il y room with "KING STILL." A 1910 sepi a tone 13" x 18" ac tion print of an early race ca r. On quality pa per, suitab le for framing. $1.95 each. 2 for $3.50. All orders postpaid by us. 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W... 40 0~ ..-! ...s:: <:..) .... <:1$ ;g f;z;l~ Q ...... 00 f;z;l ~ ...... ~ Q z < ~ < ~ 46 SIDE AND HEADLIGHT LENS COWL EDGING Arnold Geith of Oak River, Manitoba, Canada says that he has found a source for smooth, clear, convex lenses for side lights and so forth. He is using clock lenses. We've checked out size availability and find that many sizes can be had and found they come in graduations of 1/16 of an inch in the popular diameters such as 5 and 11/16. Any good watch repair shop can order these and we are told the cost to the repair shop is approximately 40¢ each: about 80¢ each to you plus postage. The lenses are about 1/16 of an inch thick and could cause a breakage problem, but at that price, not much is lost. Also, it was found that the clock lenses have a slightly higher crown than most sidelight lenses hut, with a little work, they can be used very well. Geith trimmed the edge off a couple of lenses with a hand grinding tool fitted with an abrasive wheel. With the wide selection of lenses to choose from, and the possibility of a little trimming, just about any size lens can be made. Chris says, also that he gets good results in cowl edging by using commercially prepared split tubing available at large sheet metal shops or restaurant supply companies. The tube comes in three or four sizes and is used on edges of metal sinks and so forth. To keep the split open when bending it, place short tabs or pieces in the split. Hold these by tape. Remove these after bending. Tabs should be thicker than body metal. REO 1 CYLINDER B&G BODY PLANS A good clamp to hold a bolt or stud and not spoil the threads nor mar the shoulder surface is a split nut. Hacksaw a slot in one of the flats, then screw the part to be reworked in the nut, and clamp the nut in a vise on any two of the other five flats. This does a good job to keep the part from turning while working on it (see sketch #2). HEAD GASKET ALIGNMENT A good tool for every tool box is a pair of bolts longer than the regular head bolts of your engine. With the bolt head cut off and a hack saw slot at the unthreaded end, they make good aligning guides for the head gasket and head. The slot in the end is for a screwdriver to remove the studs after some regular head bolts are installed in adjacent holes (see sketch #1). THREAD SAVER Your technical editor has been compiling a set of working drawings for the above series of body wood parts. With the exception of a few items listed below, they are complete and are being checked by Harry Bean and a couple of other members against original bodies. The plans will he available to members at the cost of reproducing and mailing which should help to get some more cars on the road. However, help is needed on the following items and we would appreciate hearing from those hav ing original items for patterns. Needed are '06-'08 and '10 dash patterns showing coil bolt hole locations, '08 seat back patterns with top support bracket holt locations and '09-'10 running board size and battery box bolt hole locations. Write your Technical Editor Vaun Rodgers at 5516 Homer Circle, El Paso, Texas to help get this project on wheels . SQUARE HEADED BOLTS The early, small, square head cap screws which are almost impossible to find may be duplicated with keystock and all thread rod, if you don't have a lathe handy. Select keystockof the ri ght size and cut length s equal to the head height. Drill and tap these to the .----------------------. BATTERY CORROSION From Chris Reimuller of Cherry Valley, California comes this one, "If you want to get rid of battery terminal corrosion, clean terminal and dry, paint with KARO or plain corn syrup - Dries in an hour or so on a dry day and no more corrosion. It looks like clear lacquer." Sounds like a sweet solution to a sour problem. YOUR REPAIR AND RESTORATION SUGGESTIONS WILL BE APPRECIATED BY Vaun E. Rodgers 5516 Homer Cr. El Paso 4, Texas ~----------------------~ THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 47 CLEM C. HIS ER Distributor of Antique-Vintage-Classic Auto Tires SPEEDOMETERS HUNDREDS OF NEW AND REBUILT SPEEDOMETERS-ALL MAKES AND Priced From MODELS FOR THE ANTIQUE, VIN- $1500 ALL HAVE BEEN NEWLY SERVICED AND ARE IN MINT CONDITION By P.J .A.- Gehrig- Denman 3972 Pacific Coast Highway, Torrance, California. Day & Night phone service: Tel. No. 378-4519, Area Code 213 t Exch. TAGE AND CLASSIC UNCONDITIONALLY GUARANTEED MAIL OLD SPEEDOMETER FOR MATCH AND PRICE FORD A FORD T 15.95 Exch. 19.95 Exch. ROUND OR OVAL STEWART-WARNER Models No. 600 & 413 STEWART-WARNER Model No. 160 Head Only-No Mount. State Year and Type -THESE SPEEDOMETERS ARE COMPLETELY REBUILT AND REFINISHED LIKE NEWCALIBRATED FOR ACCURACY AND SET AT 00 MILES OR MILEAGE SPECIFIED IN ORDER - UNCONDITIONALLY GUARANTIID - EXCHANGE SPEEDO'S MUST BE REASONABLY INTACT ONLY-ADD $4.00 If NO EXCHANGE SPEEDOMETER DRIVE ASSEMBLIES FORD T 1909-27 37.50 State Year ~~~ !~::~:~-:~~~::~:::::!':., ALL OTHER CARS .. 39.50 State Make, Model, Year and Tire Size COMPLETELY ASSEMBLED-LESS SPEEDOMETER HEAD INCLUDES-CABLE, 5/o 0. D. CASING, 2V,,I RATIO ANGLE DRIVE, PROPER CLAMP 16 TOOTH FIBER GEAR, 58 TOOTH ROAD GEAR AND All FITIINGS COMPLETE SPEEDOMETER REPAIR SERVICE ANTIQUE • VINTAGE • CLASS IC All MAKES AND MODELS REPAIRED OR REBUILT REGARDLESS OF CONDITION MAIL SPEEDO FOR QUOTATION SPEEDOMETER CABLES, CASINGS, FIBER GEARS, ROAD GEARS II. OTHER PARTS FOR All MAKES II. MODELS- WRITE FOR PRICES ALL ITEMS POSTPAID-NO C. O.D.'• DON MARR 1062 San Marcos Rd., Sonia Barbara, Calif. Tel. 805-964-1158 HCCA NATIONAL TOUR Septembe-r 8-9-10-11 YOSEMITE NATIONAL PARK bolt thread size. Screw a length of all thread rod equal to the bolt length plus head into the square head and braze in place. A little paint and you can't tell the substitute from the real thin g. SOMETHING TO REMEMBER Tires that are not sufficiently inflated will rimcut and are more liable for puncture than if blown up hard. Dykes A utomobile Encyclopedia, 1914. WE ' VE GOT SAFETY GLASS AND SEAT BELTS SO WE CAN GO ON ANY TOUR! Jack St eve ns, Ev e rgr ee n Go s- fff e . 48 Cia,ssi£ied GENERAL REQUIREMENTS (1) Members: one ad of about 50 words free each issue. Photo, $1.00. (2) Nonmembers: $6.00 for a 50-word ad. Photo, $4.00 extra. (3) Payment must accompany all ads. (4) Ads should be submitted on an ordinary postcard; print clearly or typewrite in the form of ads you see below. (5) Write your membership card number at the top of the postcard, and state whether ad is For Sale, Swap or Wanted. (6) Ads offering a car for sale must include the price. (7) Ads are accepted for one insertion only. (8) Photos (1 per ad) should be small black-white glossies. Horseless Carriage Club of America 9031 E. Florence Avenue Downey, California RESTRICTIONS ( 1) The classified advertising section is limited to the exchange of noncommercial items. Persons selling or producing automobiliana on a business basis are considered commercial advertisers and must use Display ads or the Service Directory. Write for rates. (2) Persons requiring ads longer than the standard 50-word group, or who require special typography or space, must use Display space; write for information on rates. NOTICE While every effort is made to assure accuracy, neither the GAZETTE staff nor the HCCA can be held accountable for misleading or unclear statements in ads. In the event of typographical errors, responsibility to the advertiser cannot extend beyond agreement to publish a corrected insertion. llllllllllllllmnlmlmmnmmlmmmnmmmlmlmmmnmmnmmmnmmmnmnnmmmmlmnnmmnmmlmmnmmnnnnnnmlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllmnn FOR SALE Four cylinder Metz engine, year unknown. Charles B. Imhoff, 2002 Colton Blvd., Billings, Montana. One National magneto, one national coil. Both removed from 1912 Reo the Fifth. One Corbin speedometer, he ad. One Motor's Hand Book, 15th. Edition. One Motor's Hand Book, 1933 Edition. One Motor's Hand Book, 12th. Edition. All books contain specifications, interchangeable parts, service instructions. Any one of the above, $6.00 p.p. L. E. Parsons, Box 422, Grafton, Nebr. 1908 Maxwell run about, red with black fenders. Mint condition, restored professionally. Engine #AA6320, $4,700. 1911 Hup touring, serial #35218. New top, tires, paint and engine remanufactured. Safety glass windshield. Drive it home. $3,750. 1913 Peerless Imperial Berlin Sedan (formal) Chauffeur, not enclosed. Ahren Ott 18 valve 'T' head 5-7 Six engine rebuilt, 70 m. p.h. 4 speed transmission. New rubber, body and upholstery original (good). $10,000. Sr. #14328. 1922 Locomobile Sportif. Engine, body, rubber, paint and running gear restored. New nickel. Needs top and upholstery. Engine balanced. Serial #18006. $7,900. C. F. Black, 5121 N. Inrergordon Dr., Phoenix, Ariz. 1951 Jeepster complete for restoring, $495. 1939 Ford convertable sedan. No motor, good running parts car. $695. both. 1955 Ford pickup, Cadillac motor and transmission. Needs paint and upholstery. $450. Robert G. Weamer, 3173 Castle Rock Road, Diamond Bar, Calif. 91767 . 1919 Buick touring partly restored, new upholstry and many extra parts. $600. Also Rolls 20 and Rolls 20-25. Joe D. Montgomery, 2013 Alameda Padre Serra, Santa Barbara, Calif. 93103 23 page illustrated booklet on lubrication, adjustment and care of the Ruckstell Axel. Exact reprint of original booklet shipped with each new Ruckstell Axle; covers passenger car and truck axles, with gear ratio chart. For your copy mail $2.00 to Robert M. Thayer, 5613 N. Rockton Ave . , Rockford, Illinois. 61103. Something for the Packard collector: A miniature 4- way screwdriver in a genuine leather vest pocket case imprinted 'Packard.' $2.00 each, post paid. Very limited quantity. I discov• ered these during a recent European trip. Lyman Greenlee, Box 1036, Anderson, Indiana. 46015. For Ford 'T': Spot light brass rim, $7. 50; aluminum trans. cover lettered peddles, mint condition, $40.; small steering wheel spider, $3.; speedometer sweep needle brass rim, $7. 50; set of spring shock absorbers, front and rear, $10.; "Savidge" anti shimmy device, $5. H. L. Blodgett, Jr., Box #143, Deer Lodge, Montana. 59722. 1946 Lincoln Continental 2 door hardtop,, V-12 engine with extra V-12 engine. Has new whipcord upholstery but needs paint job. $1,000. Jack Kopp, 1795 Lawrence Road, Santa Clara, Gilif. Phone: 296-2608. Greyhound radiator cap in mint condition. For 1926-28 Lincoln. One Hayes 25" wire wheel, two 30x5 Cad wire wheels with knock on hubs. Beautiful rear windshield three piece mahogany wood frame with nickle plated fixtures complete. For price and pictures write: R. D. Pascall, 2494 Hamilton Lane, Grants Pass, Oregon. 97 526 . 1935 Ford 4 dr. convertible sedan. No engine or transmission. Does have all rare parts including top bows and rails, window parts and center posts. Body solid, no rust, but does need some body work, upholstery. $450. Jim Bradley, P.O. Box #311, Pendleton, Oregon. Phone: KBZY -KVUE-TV, 3646748, Salem, Oregon. Pair Cadillac mint brass sidelights circa 1913- 15, offer; Chev· rolet 1929-30 painted radiator shell and emblem (nice) $5.00 F.O.B.; 1932 Ford 'B' 4 cyl. manifold, $5.00 F.O.B.; 1930-31 Ford 'A' headlights less lens, $3. each plus postage. 1933· 34 Ford V-8 oil pan, $3. 50 F.O.B. S.A.S.E. for reply. Richard Hurlburt, 27 \\est, Greenfi e ld, Mass. Lincoln 'K' V- 8 engine, (1930-?) motor number 709 complete, $250. Also beautiful aluminum case transmission (with free wheeling) for same engine, $150. Both stored in s ide twenty years since removal from good running car. Crating and freight extra. Leopold E. Garcia, Bernalillo, New Mexico. Phone: 5 05-867-2458. 1948 Packard Limousine, 43,000 miles, $1,000. 1951 Patrician Sedan, $300. 1950 Clipper Sedan, $150. Ten old Packards 1940 to 1953, all ten for $1,000. Will trade clear resort land in Taos, New Mexico, Arkansas -Oklahoma or Canada for expensive old car. Otis Garrett, 4409 Classen Blvd., Oklahoma City, Okla. Phone: 405-524- 3371. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 49 FOR SALE 1939 Buick Century 4 door sedan. 15,000 one owner miles. Dark Hamilton Blue finish with soft gray pleated interior, rear armrest and throw cushions. Interior mouldings, dash, carpeting, etc. as new. Tires excellent. This car performs like new. $885. Thomas H. Jester, The Oxford Bank, Oxford, Kansas. 67119. 1931 Ford Model 'A' DeLuxe Coupe. Excellent restored condition. Engine overhauled 5,000 miles, including new line bored mains. Black vinyl upholstery and heading. Beautiful, maroon with black top and fenders. $1,300. C. R. Farrar, 242 Moore St., Santa Cruz, Calif. 1915-16 Locomobile 48, Type M 6. Custom Landulet engine #9010. All original accessories and wheels, body built by Locomobile Custom Dept., designed by DuCusse. Removable windshield frame, corner posts fold down. Natural ash rat tail body inserts in back deck. Mint condition. Alexander Stein Trophy winner, 1959. Three Glidden Tours. Only one of this body style in existence. Also Mark II Continental, White, new paint and D. E. tires. Both $13,000 . Carl Berry, 901 Woodswether Road, Kansas City, Missouri. Phone: 816-421-2931. 1930 Model 'A' Ford sport coupe completely restored. New top, upholstery, paint, chrome, battery. Tires real good and car runs fine. A beautiful little car. $900. L. L. Webber, 2432 Alder St., Bakersfield, Calif. Phone: 332-7802 or TE 1-6010. English Austin Seven tourer, 1928. Completely restored to original condition in London, prior to shipment to Los Angeles in 1962. Awards include first place at 1963 Vista Del Mar Concours D'Elegance. Photographs and details on request. $2,900. Terence Alston, 1793 N. Beverly Glen Blvd., Los Angeles 24, Calif. Phone: 474-3458 or 747-6111. 1933 Rolls Royce Landau, black and yellow, 5 passenger coupe, Freestone and Webb Alum. body imported from original owner, 1964. Send $3.00 for color photos showing details. $5,000 firm. Jim Callaway, 210 W. Tujunga, Burbank, Calif. 1912 Huppmobile Touring completely restored. A real good tour car that goes lots of brass. $4,800. Will take pre 1915 motorcycle on trade. Ray Gibson, 12842 3rd. South, Seattle, Wash. 1932 Pierce Arrow. Four door Club Sedan, 8 cylinder, side mounts, trunk, interior reupholstered in imported material, tires excellent, bumpers rechromed, little mileage since engine overhaul, ready to go anywhere at 60 mph. Asking $2,500 with well over $200 in extra parts. R. J. Hertell, 613 Florida, S. E. Albuquerque, New Mexico. 87108. 1925-1927 Series Dodge Sedan in very good condition, motor #C847242. Good tires, nice upholstery, solid car, steel body, all glass in place, Texas Safety Sticker, $595. Wallace Smith, 10002 N. Lamar Blvd., Austin, Texas. 78753. Phone: 512-H05 7272. Detroit Electric, 11,000 actual miles, beautiful condition, no battery, $3,000. Also 1924 Rolls Royce convertible, $5,000. 1915 Dodge Taxi Touring, $1,295, 1914 Buick Touring, $1,595. 1932 Ford V-8 convertible with German Duetch coachwork, $2,495. 1953 Cadillac Eldorado supercharged convertible (cost $30,000) $3,000. James H. Southard, Box 627, Marshfield, Wisconsin. 1913 Studebaker Touring Model 25. Mint restoration from frame up. National AACA Senior Award Winner 1965. Very reliable tour car with about 1500 total mileage. $5,000. Clinton Gurnee, 62 Shady Oaks Drive, Watsonville, Calif. 1931 Chrysler 6 Roadster is regretfully offered for sale. Near perfect condition. Top performance on the road. Enough spares for another thirty-five years. $4,000 or near offer. Bob Allen, 6115 Town Hill Lane, Dallas, Texas. 75214. Phone: 214EM8-4550- 50 SERVICE ooooooooooooo o 0o0~0o0 o GA SK DIRECTORY ET S ENGINE ~ FOR ALL ENGINES MADE TO ORDER Custom - made copper and asbestos cylinder he ad, manifold and exhaust gaskets for all mak es and mode ls of antique, foreign, racing, marin e, Diese l and indu strial eq uipment . Will need old gasket or pattern for sa mple. Va lves Valve Guide s Bushings - A ll oy Pistons - Valv e Springs Piston Pins Pin Piston Rings - King Bolts and Bushings ALSO IN ANY OVERS IZE We hav e avai lable an assortment of ne w stock head and manifold gask e ts for cars 1916 to 1948 . State your needs; give make, mod e l, year of car, etc. 1814 SO. GRAND AVENUE HEAD GASKET COMPANY C/0 Fred Stelli'!!l San Francisco, California PHON< LOS ANGELES 15, CALIF. PHONE R l . 8·2188 465 Bryant Street Formerly Hand y Andy Specialty Co. EXbrook 7·3111 PACKARD PARTS We have 132 Packard parts cars, years 1924 thru 1956, p lu s tons of new and used parts for most any model 6 thru 12 . Send us your want lists, enclosing SAE for quotation . Have many welled fenders, grills, ornaments, hub caps, etc. XIZEII/S AUTO TOP SHOP Since 1896 PACKARD PARTS UNLIMITED Box 823, Groveland, Mass. Phone (617) R. M. CRAWFORD 372-99 12, after 7 PM FCOOJHtS Mail order booksellers to the world's motorists. Send for our free cata logue and drool over the finest selection of high quality books on antiques, classics, sports cars, racing, etc. We have regular cus .. tomers in every state of the U.S. A. SEAT COVERS UPHOLSTERY ANTIQUE CARS ARE OUR SPECIALTY! Herb Merkel Owner ~fUtUtU ) ·~, \ H \ H '• ~ \ · · ~ f f f I \ . J f ~ 1IJ ., .., tl• ........ • ... Phone BE 2-1248 544 lOth Ave . SAN DIEGO 1, CALIF. MARKEN LTD. - BENNETT ROAD - BR IGHTON • SUSSEX - ENGLAND •••••• PATTERNS FOR SALE •••••• COP IES OF AUTHENT IC PATTERNS FOR ANTIQUE CAR COSTUMES. $1 .S O and $2.00 each. e WRITE FOR ILLUSTRATIONS TO: Back Seat Drivers c/o Clara Cross 33 N. Santa Barbara Mesa, Arizona 85201 Step Plates Po li shed Aluminum and Rubber Style s, Reproduced for All Cars Brand Names in Original Letter or Script FREE LITERATURE e AUTO REPRODUCTIONS Box 261 Concord, Ca lif. FOR SALE 1936 Rolls Royce 25/30 Saloon custom radio, heater, absolute ly like new throughout, one owne r. $2,950 firm. Also 1930 Rolls Royce P II, 2 seater roadster in excellent original condition, $4,600 not firm. This car sti ll in England where I drove it last August. Send for photos. Russell Westerby, 16 jupiter Ave., Chatham, Ontario, Canada. Phone: 354-4598. Model 'T' 191 2 reporduction f enders, set of 4, never used, $50. 1913 all brass 'T' carburetor, 1914 B & B-make offer. Pair Reo electric h eadli ght s, good s h a p e, nickle rimmed, Tilt-Ray, both l enses unbroken, year unknown. Overall demension, 10 3/.". Make offer. All FOB h ere. Ronald ]. Putz, 1801 So. Warner, Bly City, Michigan. 48707. 1904 Olds (Replicka), $1, 150; 1922 GMC 1 ton truck, completely restored, $ 1, 150; 1928 A u s tin (English) Taxi Cab, $1, 150; 1934 Ford fire truck, $1, 250; 1939 Cadillac 4 door sedan, deluxe body, $650; 1915 Model 'T' motor and transmission comp l ete l y rebuilt, $250. Two Model 'A' motors c h eap. W. B. Wah nish, 801 E. Valley, San Gabriel, Calif. Phone: AT 4-9590. One pair all brass headlights, Stoddard Dayton circa 09-10-11. Near perfect conditio.n. $150. 09-10-11 Flanders 20 radiator with script. Steel shell gone, otherwise good. $130. FOB. Bill Eschbaugh,Rt. #2, Box # 187, Decatur, Ill. 62521. Phone: 217-864-3469. Bow l egged top for small car, iron and wood good , leather and l eatherette fair, $150. Large Packard truck, 2 suit cases and tan waterproof cover nice, $50. Chevrolet sportlight spotlight, $25. Two double bucket seats similar to cover pictu re HCCA Gazette, Volume 20, #1. Large Chrysler radiator shell early 1930 s, good. Self addressed envelope for answer. Bob Claxton, 7404 Zuni, S.E., Albuquerque, New Mexico. One pair 1917 Ford kerosene side lights, one 32x4Y:> tire good for spare onl y. Want parts, pieces, and what have you for my 1913 'T' chassis. Matt Betton, Box #724, Manhattan, Kansas. 1926 Ford T. T. Truck, $800 . 00. 1912 Brush-Mint, $3000.00. Ed Eisenberg, 50 Stratford Road, Rockville Centre , L.I., New York. Phone: 516- OR 8-3452. 1 931 Chevrolet 6 wheel sport roadster, drive anywhere. $1,250 or best offer. 193 1 Chevrolet Cabrolet roadster, restorable, $350.00 or best offer (towable). L. W. Barber, Box #588, Oklahoma city, Oklahoma. 1920-22 ? Essex roadster top and side c urtain s. Sockets and bows like new. Covering original and very good condition with exception of rear curtain which is tom around windows. Top has inside flaps to store side curtains. $65.00 FOB. L. L Stone, Rt. #2, Box #379, Portland, Oregon. 97231. 1932 Rolls Royce Phantom II Landaulet, restored, New tires, $3,700. 1927 Willys-Knight Sedan, Model 60, new paint, original upholstery, 22,000 mil es, $1,000. Both these cars can be delivered anywhere, anytime. Ron Wallis, 1 21 Main St. , Watford, Ontario, Canada. P hon e: 519-876-2777. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 51 SERVICE DIRECTORY 1911 to 1927 Model ''T" Tops .,.e.,. Windshields FOR ANTIQUE CARS BRASS & STEEL From our wide selection of authentic tubing, we can reproduce most antique and classic windshields. Brass and Nickel Glass Setting Channel YOUR BEST SOURCE FOR FlAT FAN BELTS AND HOOD LACING. Always an excellent stock of new Model "T" parts SEND 25¢ FOR CURRENT LISTING OF PARTS AND SERVICES Factory duplications ready for installation. Original type grained vinyl material. Write for detailed information and prices ;4~ XEN SO!ENSEN TOP SHOP antique clothes 38 N. Hill Avenue- Pasadena, California ANTIQUE MAGNETO REPAIR & SALES E. ;4de'UUJH 173 Hotchkiss Street- Jamestown, New York FOR SALE : Antique clothing and accessori.es for HCC fun·ctwns. Suits. Dresses. Jewelry. P e tticoat s . Parasols. Blouses. Feathers. Buttons and Trimmings. BOXES WILL BE SENT ON CONSIGNMENT TO RESPONSIBLE PARTIES. 1626 ~o. 46!h St., MRs • EVELyN Doy ER Phoentx, Artzona When in Scottsdale, Arizona do visit "Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe" for all your Antique Clothing needs . 43 East First Avenue IPima Plaza) Tel.: 947- 3062 e l REWIND YOUR MAGNETO COILS PATTERN OR OLD George H. Pounden HEAD GASI\ET 1520 High School Road, Sebastopol, California ~~ !!'=~~ - ~ PHONE 823-3824 * BRASS- BRASS -BRASS- BRASS Shines better with SIMICHROME than any metal polish you ever used or your money back. Same is true for chrome , nickel, alum inum, silver, dimes or dollars. 4 tubes $3.00 - 1J2 lb. can $2.50 P.P. COMPETITION CHEMICALS-Box 141, Iowa Falls, Iowa REQUIRED COPPER·ASBESTOS HEAD GASKETS OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY §sket mfg. co. inc_319 W. 17th St. Richmond 9-4063 Los Angeles, 15 FOR SALE Cars below all excellent co ndition, comp l etley res tored as original, n ew paint and uphol s t e ry, runnin g perfectly: 192 3 Dodge Sedan. Motor overhauled, $950? 1926 Chevrolet Ro a dster. N ew top. V ery rare , on ly two o th ers kn own re store d. $ 1,300 ? 1928 Stud e bak er coupe. ( R oya l Vi ctoria, Land au) , $ 1, 500 ? J ay Hampel, Rt. # 1, Box 11260, Th ousand Oaks, Calif. 9 1360. About 1934 Dodge wood sta ti on wagon, body o nly, enclo sed, wi th rear fenders, good conditi on, n o rot. Alw ays garaged. $100 or a ny offe r. 19 16 Stanley, l ackin g fenders, top, rear seat section, for $2,000, goo d bo il er. Need 19 14- 19 Dodge, rear fenders, wheels, doors , top bows. J erry Me ixn er, Route 2, Owatonna, Minn esota. Stoddard Trans-Axle Tran s. Fits 1911 Stoddard 30 or 191 2 Savoy, $7 5. 19 12 Hup gas tank, model 30. Two 26 T cowl gas tanks. 20 ' s Che·v . front end, lik e T hub caps . 1914 'T' tail light E & ], less fount, burn er, real good. S ASE. Max Pottl e, Rt. Il l , 119 Q Riven Rd., Oakdale, Calif. Brass top and s ide curta in fasten e rs. Dodge radi ato r ornament. 1931-32 Chevy Eagle, antique ]arks. Model 'T' brass and 1928 Ch evy iron spare tire locks . Chevrolet Stone Gu a rd. Loco air gauge . V8 Ford valves. Brass tire pump. 1910- 11 the Horseless Age magazines. Fl.p top r adi ator cap. Win ged man mots meter ornament. H. C. S. dash air pump. Flint steering wh eel. Samuel L evy, 88-08 32nd. Ave., J ackso n H e i ghts 69, New York. 19 14 Tahis rac e car, $6,500. 191 8 Cadillac 5 pass enge r tour, co mpl ete, unres tored, $ 3,000. 19 2 1 Chev. 490 2 door se dan, ni ce s hap e , runs good, $1,800. 1929 Hud son 4 door sedan. Bidde a nd Smart custom body, $1,500. S. G. Reed, 3986 Alph a St., San Di ego 13, C a lif. Phone: 264-2537 . Model 'A ' p a rt s : Two 16 " wheels a nd tires and covers for s ide mounts. H ead light s, fro nt sea t c u s hi on , and b ox of parts. Se ll a ll c h eap . Mu st cl ear garage. Sam Conti, 243 1 So. L owell St. , Santa Ana, Calif. 1922 Ford "High Soy" Coupe. Completely restored includin g new uph olstery ' top, tires, safety glass, paint, etc. $1,500 o r best o ffe r. C. Gurne e , Jr., 62 Shady Oaks Dr., Wat sonvill e , Calif. Phone: 408-72 4-9488. One good s in gle twi st standard bulb h o rn with fittin gs , $25. 4 b ra ss reproduction Ford hub caps, $7.00 p e r set. One 191 3- 14 steering colum n bra ss quadrant, $20. One 1919- 25 rear spare tire carri er blasted a nd primed, $10. Wa nt to swap H e in ze co il box parts. Have 2 complete boxes, no lid s. Ne e d a good lid, key, and co il s . Dave Baker, Bad Axe, Mi c h. Ford V8 rotors 19 32-35 and 1937-4 1, 85¢. Di s t. cap a nd cover 1932-35, $1.50. Coil with co nd., 1937-41, $4. 25. #10 00 bulbs $3.00 per box of 10. Carter carb. kit s for 19 36 T errap lan e " 6 " wi th 309S carb . also 1936 Olds " 6 " with 327 S ca rb., $4.00 . Prices include posta ge. U.S. funds. R. Percy, 2 4 24 Wes t 1 3th. Ave., V a n co uver, 9, Briti s h Columbia. 52 DIRECTORY SERVICE NEW WOOD TOP BOWS JULIAN ECCLES Sizes to fit most roadsters and touring cars. 46-48-50-52 -5 4-56-58-60 inches, inside diameter measurement. 1 by 1 'h inches girth measurement. $4.00 Ea. FOB KIRKLAND $5.75 606 S. 6th P.O. Box E KLAMATH FALLS, OREGON 97601 Phone day: 884-8124 Nite: 882-3303 Area Code 503 Send check with order P.O. Box 174, Union City, Tennessee ENTE~PRISES, Cut Out Pedals "BRASS MAKER" Expert Machine Work - Caps - Parts - Pumps e Write LYSLE E. MUTH, 504 Ocean View Ave., Santa Cruz, California 95062. Ne·w & Used Antique & Classic Tires $7.50 Etc. P.J.A. DENMAN DUNLOP FIRESTONE ••• TERMS AVAILABLE ••• l ¥'@' SILENT TIMING CHAINS~~ Custom Made To Original Specifications Write for full information -··-· RAMSEY PRODUCTS CORPORATION ~-~ 724 Gesco St. Tel.: 704 376-64 77 R- ~ Charlotte, North Carolina 28208 (~ \~) ·~·._ OLD CAR FINANCING We finance antique, pioneer and classic automobiles. We require insurance, reasonable down payments, snapshots of car and any cre·dit application. Inquiries to : FRANZ RIDGWAY AUTHENTIC WOODEN SPOKES Member: AACA- HCC- VMC-CCCA free estimate upon request COURTESY CREDIT CORP. 2836 N.E. Sandy Blvd.-Portland 12, Oregon --=---"""· ray marin· 5127 huntington ave · lin co ln,neb. 3 acres of antique cars and parts. Specializing in Packard, Pierce Arrow, Lincoln and Cadil lac . Send list of requirements to Atlantic Auto Parts Club for collectors of literature. 18 years old. Membership premium this year, 1921 Mercer reprint. Reprints, photos, exchange of old literature. Membership information, AEI, Box 415G, MI. Clemens, Mich . 19020 Anelo Street, Gardena, Ca lifornia FOR SALE Gazettes: Vol. 13, Numbers 1, 3, 4; Vol. 16, Numb ers 5, 6; Vo l. 17, Numbers 2, 3; Vol. 18, Numbers 2, 3, 4, 6; Vol. 20, Number 4; Vol. 21, Number 2; Vol. 22, Numbers 1, 2; Vol. 23, Numb ers 1, 3; Vol. 24, Numb ers 2, 3, 4, 6. $1.00 each, post paid. Lorin Tryon, 325 Harbor Way, South San Francisco, Calif. 94080. 1910 Haynes large brass touring.· Right hand drive. Excellent throughout. $4,500. 1938 V-16 Cadillac 7 passenger limo sine. Like new. Has partician between front and rear, sidemo unts, etc., $3,600. Low original mileage. 1913 International Highwheeler. Two seater with top . Excellent, $1,600. 1916 Buick touring, excellent, $1,700. Dave Levin, 2835 w. North Shore, Chicago, Illinois. 60645. 1929 Buick 2 dr. partially r<':stored, and 1937 Chrysler airflow coupe, unrestored. $175.00 each or both for $300. Many used Jeepster parts; also set new white vinyl side curtains, $35. Larry Quirk, DDS, 2427 N . Alvemon, Tucson, Ariz. Man ual s: Nash, Terraplane, 22/23 Stanley Steamer, Overland, etc. Some truck manuals and illustrated parts books, including R eo, Pierce-Arrow X-4 & Lozier type 84 ca rs. MoToR Show numbers, 1933 to 1944. Books by Page, Wri ght, Aude l , Hobbs, Consoliver. I want DORT material. Court Myers, 133 Grant, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. New and use Trippe lights. 32-39 Packard Cormorants, flying ladies, twelve hub cap medallions. Rolls Royce Ladies. Tom Dunaway, Box 1774-A, Anderson, S. C. 29621. 1920 Buick roadster frame, $15. 1930 Model 'A' frame, $10. Two sp lit rims, 23", 31x4, $4. each, 2 split rims, 24", 32x4, $4. each, 1 Model 'A' Ford 1930 headlight cover, $10. Shipping costs extra. Alfred L. Fifield, 3982 Edwards Ave., Oakl and, Calif. 9460 5. Phone: 632-0398. Munsey magazines odd issues 1899 through 1909. Loaded with turn of the century automobile, carriage, bicycle, phonograph and firearms advertisin g. Si ze 9Y,x6Y,x7 / 16. $6.00 each postpaid. Will trade fo r pre 1930 radiator e mblems; one magazine one emblem. Charles Ma cLeod, 503 Normandy, Royal Oak, Michigan. 1938 Lincoln Zepher, nice, $395; 19 24 Dod ge roadster, $395; 1931 Chevrolet pickup, $150; 1933 Am. Austin roadster needs motor and radiator, $395; 1930 Studebaker chopped, $85; 1933 Strt. 8 Buick sedan, $150; two 1929 Harley Davidson cycles, $95; 1936 4 dr. convertable, $475; 1940 4 dr. convertabl e Merc ury, $450. Trade for other cars also. Tom Donahue, Scottsbluff, Nebraska. 1921 Model 'T' touring. Partially restored rebuilt engine; gen erator, starter rebuilt. Upholstered. Hav e bows, but n o c loth top. Complete, except minor body work and paint. $475. George E. Rogers, 13 1 No . D eluth, Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Replaceable Legaute magnifying l enses for antique car s, sizes 8\1," and 8W' diameters. Price $2.95 pair plus postage. We i ght 4 lbs. George M. Wil son, 7707 Glen Alta, Hou ston, Texas. 77017. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 53 SERVICE EXCHANGE ENGINES NOW! DIRECTORY NOW! IXCHANGI8 MU8T MilT OUR Rlli!IUILDING 8TANDARD8 MODEL T $159.95 • No Open Volve En1ines P'LU&E~~~u6'tNCiCi~M~;~~1E.fs"H_.!l~T,.OAY& $159 .95 JAHIII'S ALUMINUM PISTONS e GRANT RINGS e ALL STEEL VALVES e DIESEL BABBITT T and A PARTS F:o GENEVA 84955 Jahns has been making custom pistons for the automotive industry practically from the time the first horseless carriage was introduced. If you have a piston problem that's keeping your antique in the garage, don't despair. Write, wire, or phone our factory. Closed Tuesdays & JIM'S ~ARAGE 3714 E. 4th St. JIM ROSS 1 year Old Motor, monthly --------$10.00 Veteran & Vintage, monthly 6.00 Bugantics (Bugattil, quarterly ---------------------- 3.50 Jaguar Driver, monthly ____ 4.50 Vintage Motor Cycle, monthly ------------- -- --------- 5 .60 Automobile Quarterly ------ 21 .00 Motor Revue (German but with English translation( quarterly --- -------- ----- ------ 6.00 e MODEL A Lo11g Beach 14, .Calif. year Cars & Parts (advertising) monthly -------- -- -- ------ ----- - 3.00 Reflector IA&CCC of Canada) bi-monthly ____ 6.00 Style Auto, quarterly -------- 24.00 Antique Automobile, bi-monthly -------------------- 5 .00 Light Steam Power (steam cars) bi-monthly ---------- -- 4.00 2662 lacy Street GRABER & SONS - Correct for most cars. Makes a perfect restoration complete. $1.35 each plus 25c parcel post. DIXIE GUN WORKS, Inc., UNION CITY, TENN. 38261. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Make checks payable to VIVIAN PADDOCK 1204 E. Walnut- Orange, California 92667 0 80 8 WHEELS WHEELWRIGHTS 5320 Thornburn St., Los Angeles, Calif. 90045 LA 'DIES FOR SALE: "ANTIQUE CLOTHES MANUAL" By Newport Beach Regional Group Information on styles, Basic Wardrobe, Accessories, Hats, etc. from 1 900-1930 0 Wooden wheels restored or made to your specifications and samples - only hickory used. Coach work also available. Mailing Address: CApitol 5-8177 ' { / CARBIDE HEADLIGHT BURNER TIPS ENGLISH IMPORTS, 3844/HG2 Thomas Avenue South, Minneapolis, Minnesota 55410 WHEELS los Angeles 31 , California $2.00 0 8 8 0 0 0 8· 8 § 0 The deadline for new or revised commercial advertising copy for the July-August issue is JUNE FIRST. For the September-October i's sue it is AUGUST FIRST. Mail copy to Herb Prentice, 9734 Garnish Drive, Downey, California. Do not send Classified ads to this address. FOR SALE Elgin 8 day clock from lat e 20 model Studebaker. Watch movement looks like new but needs main spring. $15.00 plus postage a nd insurance. Book by Homan-"Self Propelled Vehicles" published by Audet & Co., 5th. edition. $10.00 p.p. It is in good condition. Frank J. Juelke, Rt. #2, Holtou, Kansas. Mint chrome radiator shell for hi gh 'T' radiator, $25; pair 1917-25 'T' head lights, complete, $25; (2) high rad., $27.50; 'A' wheels, 2 1", 19", nic e, some with tires, $5.00 up; chassis 1922, $50; new one man top for 1922 touring, $85; 'T' wood wheels, 21". Also set of clinchers, large drums, some with usuable tire. 19 14 steering column for 'T', including wheel, $40. Other misc. parts and tools, oil cans, pliers, all script, write, no phone. Earl Houston, Rt. #1, Box # 197, Ripon, Calif. 95366. 1927 Stutz 4 door Brohan motor #85433, ser. /1825-449. Car has never been rebuilt and is about 97%complete andoriginal. Three years ago engine froze and cracked the b l ock (outside on l y). Ha ve had car 13 yrs. and lost interest. Would like to se ll for $600 or trade for smaller touring or roadster. David H. Gi sh, 250 4 Beverley Dr., Green ville, Texas. 1918 Buick touring windshield and headlights, 1921 Ford coupe windshield frames, two 3S"x5" wheels and tires, 1937 LaSalle radiator, engine, transmission, 1929 Chev. transmission, Mun cie transmission for Model 'T' Ford, Harley Davidson headlight (about 1924). George Plummer, Rt. #1, Box #132, Warrenton, Oregon. Need a project? 1925 Hispano-Suiza type H6B Phaet on, with hard to get parts, flyin g stor.k mascot, radiator badge, radiator script, etc. Disassembled for inspection. Classic Milion-Guiet body with top bows and windshield frame, restorable or good for pattertL Will sell complete car only. $1,000. Ed Hawtrey, 5842 2nd. Ave., Sacramento, Calif. 95817. 1934 Rolls Royce, 20-25 hp model, chassis #GRC-69, 7 passenger limousine, body by Hooper, owner's manual included. $1,400. Tim W. Elder, 1108 Maple Ave., Downers Grove, Ill. 60515. Phme: 3 12-964-2254. 1930 Packard Std. 8 converted to pickup, $250. John D anicourt, Bra:::kenridge, Minn. 19 24 Cadillac, V-8, 63F1417 , original mechanical and running condition, back end of 4 door body removed, original paint on cab, fenders, hood. Clymer windshield li ght, tires smooth, runs like Swiss watch, Not a parts car, ju st needs a body and a hom e . Asking $9 SO. Courtney E. Cook, 5240 W. Brown Pl., Denver, (blorado. 80227. Phone: 303-985-4946. 7: 00x21 good to very good condition black wall tires. Asking $15-$25 each plus shipping. Also selling tubes, flaps, rims, wheels etc. 1926-27 Cadillac parts for sa l e. Let me know what you need. Joel Feldman, 3256 Butler Ave., Los Angeles, Calif. 90066. Phone: 837-027 3. 19 27 Packard 6 Opera Coupe. 132" W.B. Some restoration done, complete. $600. 19 36 Chrysler Imp erial Airflow. Sound original condition. Needs paint, $350. Will trade for restored car. Need bumperettes for 1932 Cadillac V-12. Delbert Pantel, 179A Cohasset Lane, Chico, Ollif. 54 FOR SALE 1912 Maxwell Mascottie roadster, unrestored-$1,SOO . 191S Seagrave pumper, runs well, $1,000. 1923 Buick 4 cyl. coupe, 8 S% restored, $7 SO. 1927 LaSalle sports roadster, disassembled but good shape, $800. 1948 MG-TC roadster, beautiful, $1,7SO. 1916 Maxwell parts, for the lot, $7S. Numerous brass lamps and early folding seat rear deck. David Ault, 7019 Alden Rd., Baltimore, Md. 21208. 1911 Brush, restored in 196S and a trophy winner every time . This car is complete in every detail, $3,7 SO. Will send picture upon request. Arnold Arledge, Box #1S7, Burlington, Iowa. S2602. Phone: 7S4-7S23. 19S4 Nash Healey roadster in excellent condition. New tan top and side curtains. New genuine black leather upholstery. Body is jet black. Picture on request. Price $1,200. Dean Russell, 17 Crescent Rd., Fairport, New York. 144SO. New Bosch magneto coils, 6-12 volt, 1909- 12 era, $7 . SO. Speedometers, 3%" round face, 0-60 or 0-8 0 mph, $4.00. Tachometers, 3'/.'' face, 3000 rpm, 3%" round face, 3SOO or 4000 rpm, $4.00. I would like a bid on about 600 of these instruments. Include postage, money back guarantee. R. Knies, 1S Wellington Rd., Greenvale, L. I., N. Y. 11S48. 1914 Buick, B-25 touring. Original family car. Completely overhauled. Ori ginal leath e r. Permanent HCC licence. Parts catalog, sal es bulletin. Factory picture and description in frame. Asking $3,200. Also have for sa le custom built car trailor, all steel. Like new. Extra wheel f!!1d tire. ] ohn Nesrig, Box # 10S4, Yakima, Wa s h . Phone Selah: MY 7-7979. 1913 Model 'T' touring, new top and interior, excellent body and mechanical condition, $1,7SO. Will take 1931 Chrysler convertable coupe on trade. Lewi s H. Haines, R. R. #S, Box #361, Logansport, Indiana. 1908-09 2 cylinder Reo, motor and serial #19492, $3,000. Was restored in 19S1, runs good but needs going over again to be a point winner. Had new upholstery in 19S1, still good. Needs tires. Owen Hartley, 174S Hamiel Dr., Las Cruces, New Mexico. 88001. Phone: SOS-524-8139. Handmade lingerie hats of em broidered doilies or fine lace, $20.00 post paid. Mrs. Frank Deakin, 4201 E. Catalina Dr., Phoenix, Arizona. 8SO 18. 1916 Olds Model 43 frame, springs, rear end, drive shaft, and some front axle parts. Leo Gay, 2511 Allanjay Rd., Glendale 8, Calif. New fenders: 1928-31 Buick, 1926-3 0 Chrysler, 1929-30 Dodge trucks, 1928-3 1 Essex, 1926-31 Hudson, 1927-31 Oakland, 1928-30 Oldsmobile, 1928-32 Nash, 1928-30 Pontiac, 1929-30 Plymouth, 1926-31 Overland, Willys, W-K, Whippet, 1928-31 Studebaker and some without identity, SAE, please. Murray Seldon, 28846 Eddy Rd., Wickliffe, Ohio. 44092. Brass Ford Roadster, immaculately restored, extra 1915 block rebored and with pistons, has standard rear end now, but rebuilt Ruxstell goes with it, brand new tir~s that haven't run a mile. All for $1,900.00, firm. Also have a lead ,on a 4 cylinder Saxon engine; glad to pass it on to anyone that needs it. Clarence Kay, 553 Fir Lane, Los Alto, Calif. 1925 Pierce-Arrow, series 80. 7 passenger limousine, partially restored, motor overhauled. New safety glass. $1,600. William M. Cryan, 32 Pinevale Court, Cheektowaga 2S, N. Y. 1911 Kissel Kar, .$5,000. 00, lots of brass. B. Peer, 1180 Brucito Ave., Los Altos, Calif. 94022. Phone: 961-5038. FrontHassler, small type, 'T', $10.00; hood and radiator leath er winter front with lined piling and radiator flap, 'T', $10.00; Chilton Automobile Directory, Yr. 1919, $5.00; genuine Ford Manual, Yr. 1914, $10.00; four new fenders for Queen car, $80.00. All freight items packing extra. Pictures SO cents each. All items FOB. Michael Scungio, 11 Amalia Ave., Cranston, Rhode Island, 02910. 1929 McLaughlin Buick Town Sedan, original power train, and body upholstery. Reliable and good performer, go anywhere. You will like this one. 9S% restored. $2,900 firm. Also spare parts. Will not ship. 1901 McLaughlin horse drawn buggy 9S% restored. Complete. Canadian built. Will not ship. $900.00 firm. One pair· of early Benz carriage lamps, candle type. Good original condition. Once belonged to the Duke of Bedford, Woburn Abbey in England. Lamps have much history. $1SO.OO firm. Robert A. Witthames, S09 Glengarry Ave . , Toronto 12, Ontario, Canada. 1924 Oakland Six Touring, needs restoring, good motor, no top bows, seats, or half of left front fender. $1SO.OO or best offer. SAE. Arnold Fletcher, 6931 Leighton, Lincoln, Nebr. 1927 'T' Roadster complete wire wheels, bumpers and top bows, runs. $1,000. High radiator, $27. SO. Two wire wheels and hubs for 'T' 1926- 27, $40. One chrome radiator shell, new, $2S. Several 'T' head lights complete lenses and rims, chrome and brass. 1914-1S steering assemble, $40.00, including wood small wheel. 1928- 29 head lights, complete set of two, $30. Set of 2 steel brake shoes, 191S-2S. One 1928 early A. R. wheel, $10.00, mint condition. 1926 'T' hood and windshield for close body. Earl Houston, Rt. #1, Box #197 Ripon, Calif. 9S366. 1929 Chevrolet, 6 cyl. 4 door sedan. Rough but restorable. Complete. $99.00. Francis]. White, Box #269, Winters, Calif. 1913 Reo chassis, excellent condition. Has motor, radior, running boards, splash aprons and good set of wheels, also extra transmission and differential plus other parts, $3SO.OO. ] ames ] . Shelton, 10848 Oakton Way, Rancho Cordova, Calif. Bare chassis, unknown, with Weston Mott front and rear' axles. Full elliptic scroll springs rear, semi-elliptic on front. 108" wheelbase, right hand drive with 4 good 27" clincher wheels. $100. About 1907-10. I have die to stamp the flanges for early radiators -2" O.D.x.62S hole corrugated edge. Write for particulars. Chris Reimuller, 9S09 Oak Glen Rd. , Cherry Valley, Calif. 9 2223. 1908 Reo 2 cyl. touring, $6SO. 1909 Reo 1910 Ford chassis near complete, good, 191 2 Culver cycle car 1 cyl., $SOO. 191S 4 cyl. pumper, $1,000. Alan Clendenen, del Mar, Calif. Phone: 714-673- 2027 . 1 cyl. truck, $SOO. E & ] lamps, $SOO. American LaFrance 2SO .Poppy, Corona 191S Buick roadster, Model C-36, $1,SOO. 1909 Reo 2 cylinder touring with detachabl e tunno with some extra parts, $1,SOO. Set of Houk 2S" wire wheels with hubs and caps, $1SO. Fred Hoch, 207 S. Pine Av e., Maple Shade, New Jersey. Phone: 609-663- 7670. 1918 Harley Davidson motorcycle, S,OOO original miles. Complete and easy to restore, $300.00 crated FOB. Thomas O'Connor, 12S Marlboro Road, Delmar, N. Y. 1937 Buick Limited, 7 pass e nger limousine in excellent original condition. Dual sidemounts. Drive anywhere at 70. $7SO. Also 1936 Cord 810 sedan, parts car, approximately 6S% complete. $3SO. Robert D. Inskeep, 620 West LaPlata, Farmington, New Mexico. 87401. 1919-2S Ford 'T' coil boxes, mint, $12. SO. One 16" Ford 'T' steering wheel, like new, $10. Original brass spider for early 'T' steering wheel, $12.SO. Original radiator caps Ford 'T', $2. SO. Lots of Ford 'T' black parts. 1936 Ford pickup, all there, all original, $100. Harry L. Blodgett, Sr. , 814 Cottonwood, Rt. #3, Deer Lodge, Montana. S9722. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 55 FOR SALE Hupmobile 1914 Model "H" touring. Excellently restored. N o expense spared in putting this car in top mechanical condition. Easy riding and good performing tour car. Complete with h eavy duty trailer. Over $3,000 invested but must sell. Will take best offer over $2,000. Carl Estep, 2120 Orwood St., Stockton, Calif. 95205. 195 1Merce des 170 S. 4 cy linder, convertible top; body, engine, uphol stery and top in exce llent condition. Int en d to tour U.S.A. next s umm er and l eave behind car in U.S.A. at $2,500. M. Lips, 62 Grotestraat, Drunen, Netherlands. SWAP 1917 Premier, 7 passenger touring. Very large fast tourer, push button transmission (can be shifted manually), large 6 cy lind er a luminum engine, l eath er seats. Excellent condition. This is the only known 191 7 Premier. Please send picture and price of your car. Sell or trade. Marvin Berry, 8035 Wayfarer, Hou sto n, Texas. 77034. Phone: 713-MI 9-2000. Brass l amps-have Westchester, Solar, Castle, E & ], C. M. Hall, Dietz and others for one cylinder Cadillac frame, chassis or what have you. Prefer 1905 era but interested in any year. If lamps don't interest you, how about cash? Walter Fertig, 355 Glencrest Dr., Solana Beach, Calif. 92075. FOR SALE SWAP 1926 Mod e l 'T' Ford roadster. N ew upholstery, wire wheels, bosch ignition, water pump, Ruxtell rear e nd. $650. Ronald B. McCli s h, Box #66 4, Chester, Calif. 96020. Will trade a 28 " Firestone rim with retainer ring s and spii t ring for a 25" Firestone rim with retainer rings and split ring. Max E. Toby, 2265 Ocean Ave., San Francisco, Calif. 94127. Extra copy of Tucker-Book. cost over $5.00, $4.00 post paid. 16 hrs. reading, photos, names, etc. Pub. 1960. w. B. Hamlin, 229 E. Rosewood Ct., Ontario, Calif. 91762. H ave quantity of early car ads, particularly Locomobile, PierceArrow, Lafayette, Studebaker, White , Willys-Knight, etc. Would lik e to s wap for Rolls-Roy ce and Packard ads and pictur es. Need nickle Packard radiator sc ript for my recently restored 19 16 P ac kard twin six. Bill Dawn, 104 Mayflower .Rd., Knoxville, Tenn. 1915 ? Pierce-Arrow Model 38 touring. 95'7o comp lete. Chassis restored. Engine #35 167 . $3,750. Disassembled. E. 0. Butzk e , 2502 Van Wi ck St., Inglewood, Calif. Phone: PL 5-3242. Heavy duty tandem axle au to trailer, with springs, electric brakes, n ew 6 ply tires, hauls small or large. Complete ready to go. $525. consider trade for antique auto or 8N Ford or s imilar tractor. Also want 27 olds parts and literature. Paul R. King, Cedarcroft Rd. , Kennett Square, Penna. 19348. 1906 Black runabout. 95% restored. Everything new with little l eft to do. $2,600. 1929 Packard e i gh t sedan. Twin mounts, and low actual mil es. Mint original, but new professional paint. $2,000. 1914 Overland road ste r, good ori ginal. $ 1,500 . Others. Send 50¢ and stampe d envelope for information and pictures of any car. Art Burrichter, 2925 Cadillac Drive, Cedar Falls, Iowa. 1917 Ford Model 'T' touring. Completely restored and running. Upholstery and tires like new. You can drive it away! $1,200 cash. Stuart C. Willoughby, Box 790, Willcox, Arizona. 85643. One each in Arizona: 19 28 Essex Coach; 1926 Ford Sedan; 193 1 Willy s Sedan, M. D. Ruff, 333 W. Granada Ct., Ontario, Calif. Phone: 984-8448. 1956 Mercedes 300 SL Gull Win g Coupe, exce llent running and driving condition. 10 coat l acquer painted this winter, nice origin al blue leather interior, a r arety at only $4,400. Will trade on large Packard or Cadillac Touring or Roadster 29-32. Photos 50¢ each. C. E. Burke, P.O. Box 175, Mailtand Fla. 32751. Kingston 4 cylinder coi l box with buzzer, ori gina l key in swi t ch. l 'h" exhaust cut out, n ew. Ford 'T' speedometer, needs repairing. Packard motormeter, go lden airplane medallion, orig ingl hin ge cap. New 'T' Ford truck hub caps. Fronty Ford head gasket new. Don S. Patterson, Rt. Ill, Box /1248, Tavares, Fla. 19 28 Ford front fender braces and running board braces, $20. 19 29 Buick radiator and shell, $35.00 or trade above fo~ new 'T' motor or rear end parts. 1926 'T' tail gate complete, trade only for new 1927 ni c k el radiator s hell or good head light s and bar. Marvin Ray, 4 242 Mt. View, Las Vegas, Nev ada. All new old stock parts. Sets of pistons for Chevrolet 19 37 to 1940, Plymouth 1933 to 1941, La Salle 1934-36, Packard 6 1937, Plus odd ones for Olds 1936 6 and 8, Nash and Lafayette 1934-36, Buick 19 34-37 Model 40 and 1937 60, some GMC trucks. 700 valves mostly in the 1920's. Stamped envelope with wants and offers. I want old Motor magazines. C. G. Parmenter, Turnpike Ro a d, We stminster, Mass. 01473. Sets of seven beautiful co lor ed picture post cards of antique a utomobi l es, 1908 Packard, 1913 Marmon, 1908 Maxwell, 1906 Winto n, 19 14 Ford, 1905 International and 1912 Buick. Would like to exchange for other sets of post cards, books, pictures, copies of the Gazette or any literature on Antique Automobiles. Bert Buckler, 6593 Ste.' Therese Rd., Chambly Bassin, Quebec, Canada. WANTED Information-Who can date a Hupmobile? Serial No. 6645, En· gin e No. 4401. L. R. Wampol e, 9123 s. E. Hood St., Clackamas, Oregon. 97015. Magneto and support bracket for 1905, Model 15, 2 cylinder Overland. Al so quart size vacuum tank for 1918 Mod e l 490, 4 cy lind er Ov erland. Kaiser J eep Corporation, 940 N. Cove Blvd., Toledo, Ohio. 4360 1. For 1931 Model 'A' Express Delivery. Both door s in restorabl e condition. Will buy both or have Model 'T' or 'A' parts to trade. J. H. Hunter, 2851 Wi ard St., Klamath Falls, Oregon. 97601. Phone: 882-3862. 56 WANTED Delco Model 56, starter-generator, needed for 4 cylinder buick, Model C24, C25, 1914, or 1915. Also need speedometer cable, with front wheel swivel unit. These parts required to com· plete restoration, will pay cash or trade other car parts. Don Ellwyn, 2379 Panorama or., North Vancouver, British Columbia. 1928-40 Ford: New original fenders, grills, runningboards, trim, etc. Also lo mileage 1928-40 autos. "Gus" Garton, 5th. & Vine, Millville, New J~rsey. Phone: 609-825-2011. For 1922 Series 9B Franklin: 9 inch head lamp lenses. plete one man touring top for Franklin or one that can dapted. What have you? Chain sprocket and chain for starter generator. Henry J. Solesbee, 628 Prospect Ave., aluma, Calif. 94952. Combe aN. E . Pet- 1912 Flanders differentii!l. Good shape. To include housings, axles, bearings and bearing sleeves. S. Liftchild, 8611 Green· back Lane, Orangevale, Calif. 95662. 1946-48 Chrysler Town and Country Custom Club Coupe (hardtop). Must be clean, solid and complete. Please give complete description photo and price. Other years and body styles considered. Also 1940-50 Chrysler Corp. literature. F. G. Burton, Claresholm, Alberta, Canada. Model 'A' or 'T' Ford in running and restorable condition. Will consider any car, roadster pickup, or 'T' Truck. Must be within 100 miles of Pittsburgh. Give description or send photo and price. Fred Taverner, 214 Sunridge Rd., Pittsburgh, Pa. 15238. Two back issues of the H.C.C. Gazzette: Vol. 23, No. 6, Nov.Dec. 1961, and vol. 24, No. 1, Jan.-Feb. 1962. Need information in them desperately! L. B. Langguth, 2635 Cecelia Ave., Brentwood, Mo. 63144. 1909-10 'T' parts, Jno. w. Brown brass carbide generator, Brown Model #15 headlights, #60 sidelights, #75 tail lights (or parts). Early low head with just the word 'Ford'. Fig. '8' spring, hangers. Stewart-Clark dash clock. Pair EeJ 466 head· lights. Front or rear hubs (5 1h" dia.). "Ford Times" 190809-10. H. A. "Hoot" Gibson, Rt. 2, Box 451 D.D., Irving, Tex. J Duesenberg parts needed for restoration of Judkins limou·sine. Radiator shell shutters, bumpers, six 19" wheels, the 5 small instruments, complete engine assembly; interior and exterior Judkins hardware, vanities, smoking sets, etc. Also need 49Vl" LaGrande sweep panel hood, and pair of 1933 Aubum 12 b.mpers. Bill Pettit, Natural Bridge, Va. 24578. For 1912 Cole, Model 30-40 Northway. Motor. Need a radiator, water pump, and mantiels. Rig Petri, 805 Ford St., Burbank, Calif. Parts for one cyl. Cadillac. Have Cadillac parts to trade. Top for 1913 Ford Touring. Also rear cushion leather. L. C. Schroeder, Box 344, Le Mars, Iowa. For 1930 Ford station wagon: Full set of seats or springs, tail light brackets, inside rear door handles, side curtain snaps. Wayne Atkinson, 213 N. 100 E., Orem, Utah. Cartercar wanted. Original parts, literature or information for. interested in all models. Cartercar was made in Detroit and Pontiac, Mich., 1906-1915. Give details or send srtapshot with reply. Wouid also appreciate leads to the above. D. A. Burkhartsmeier, 7315 Walnut, Orangevale, Calif. 95662. 1912 Model 34 Imperial chassis or complete car. condition unimportant. Vernon L. Moeller, 2902 Center Point Rd., N. E. Cedar RaPids, Iowa. 52402. Solar E-418 headlight or will buy matched pair for 1914 Case. Were also u.sed on 1912 or later Cole automobiles. Also need 28 inch Firestone demountable rims and a good used 37x4V2 tire and tube for spare. A. W. Sorlien, Rt. #1, Caldwell, Idaho. 83605. 1926 'T' Touring in good restorable condition. Would prefer car to be within 1, 000 miles of Utah. John Linebaugh, 1299 N. 300 West, Provo, Utah. Touring top, Kellog compressor and what have you for a 1924 Marmon 7 passenger touring. Send sketch and measurements for top. Thomas O'Connor, 125 Marlboro Road, Delmar, N. Y. Complete set of top bows and irons for 1929 Packard Standard 8, 7 passenger touring. Also head lights for same car. Also tail lights for 1929 Stutz Black Hawk sedan. Carl Mullin, 114 Hill grove ori ve, Calgary, Alberta, Canada. For 1913 Ford Phaeton: 2 new original front fenders, 2 new original rear fenders, 2 new original running boards. Rear view mirror bracket for 1931 Ford roadster. Charles A. Smith, 2410 Vernon St., North Kansas City 16, Mo. A . 1927 Chevrolet Cabrolet, soft top coupe-rumble seat, disk wheels, and round pipe type bumpers. Send picture, condition and price. A. M. Dorey, Belding, Michigan. For 1916-18? Denby truck: Gas tank, steering wheel, right front wheel, any pictures, information, literature. Larry Skellenger, Ukiah, Oregon. Photos of two cylinder Autocar trucks-any catalogs of same with photographs. James Rudden, 400 So. Eliseo, San Rafael, Calif. For 1924 Marmon sedan: Parking lamps, tail light, complete instrument panel or any part, motormeter, 4 hood catches, front bumper emblem, dome light, carburetor mixture control, outside door handle, Hall headlight rim, windshield wiper motor, set of breaker points, Manual. C. W. Teeters, 3613 West State Ave., Phoenix, Arizona. For 1928 Plymouth roadster: Cylinder head, intake manifold, rear shocks, rumble seat cushions, running boards, 20" lock rings, side mount locks, steering wheel, rear bumper, would like to get wind wings and side mount morrors. J. B. Soderberg, 2156 Berkeley St., Salt Lake City, Utah. For 1917 Dodge Touring: A Briggs Strattion ignition switch with key, a crank hole cover, and hood, and good headlight with nickle plated brass rim. Linas E. Dietz, 2114 Carolina St., Lawrence, Kansas. 66044. Oldsmobile 1915, 4 cylinder Model 42. Need closed driveshaft and tube. Rear and front wheels 25" demountable, 33x4 tires. Good fenders, touring, hub caps and metal flarings. Instruments. Radiator and shell. Top assembly. 2 valve covers. Manual, sales literature. All leads .a nd info from 1915 Olds owners appreciated. Jim Webb, 127 'C' St., San Rafael, Calif. 94901. 1927-1931 Bentley Speedster or Mercedes Speedster. Prefer 4 Passenger model, complete, in good running condition or restored automobile. 1911 Cadillac Magneto base. Jack Tallman, 12 Montgomery Place, Decatur, Ill. Radiator wanted, original, new old stock; for 1925 Model 'T' Ford. Ross Parkinson, 132 Webster Ave., Rexburg, Idaho. 83440. 1915 to 1925 large model touring car in complete restored condition or perfect original. Need to purchase car before June 15th., for pickup on vacatio'n . Send pictures, condition and price in first letter. All pictures returned. Emery G. Cochron, Des Moines Region HCC, 1820 62nd. St., Des Moines, Iowa. 50322. For 1912 'T' roadster, 1 pair rear fenders, braces, switch for coil box, steering column. Early front axle with steering parts. A. E. Urzik, 4446 Bakman Ave., N. Hwd Calif. 91602. Phone: PO. 3-4654. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 57 WANTED Maxwell Carbide Generator #9, complete generator or top portion. Marvin R. Young, 21515 Locust St., Matteson, Ill. 60443. Phone collect: 312-748-6563. Se ven passenger touring body for 1914 Haynes as pictured. Also require rear fenders or patterns, 27" rims and other miscellaneous parts. Bob Ruf, 820 Cordone, Reno, Nevada. 1931 Cadillac V-16 Pheyton. will consider other 1930 or 1932 models in restored or good original condition. Will pay $50.00 for lead if purchase is affected. Send pictures and price. Everett C· Holmes, 2329 N. Bryant St., Portland, Oregon. 97217. For 1911 Chalmers 30 Pony Tonneau or Roadster. Hood hardware. Sidelamp brackets, radiator, front fenders, coil box and headlight forks. Please let me hear from you if you have these or any other parts for this model car. Frank Hqgerhuis, Jr., 1168 Goffle Rd., Hawthorne, New Jersey. 07506. For 1912 Type 61 V-8 Cadillac Touring: Right and left cylinder blocks, both cylinder heads, gaskets, radiator cap, and any other miscellaneous .motor parts in good condition. Please state prices on each part or on whole lot, and if FOB or prepaid. Would buy complete motor if price is reasonable. Ed A. Willis, Box #4684, Macon, Ga. 31208. 1912 Ford touring body, will consider one in any condition. Roly Weinhandl, Route 5, Spokane, Wash. Big six Studebaker rear half body with doors, 1919 (prefer Calif.). Have quail, need 'A' radiator cap to fit. Need 'A' rear wheel puller. Want bad-set 'T' offset wheels for any year, such as used by clowns in parades. Also want to sell or trade 1917 Cadillac engine, brass lights, radiator, front wheels, tires, axle, etc. Answer all l e tters. w. A. Jacks, Box #1237, Quincy, Calif. 95971. For 1916 Overland Model 86 Cloverleaf Roadster: 26" lock rings, starter, generator, carburetor, windshield, instruments, switch on steering column. Copy of page describing car in The Automobile Journal, March 25, 1916. Top bows or anything you wish to sell. Orville Larsen, 4457 North 900 West, Ogden, Utah. 84404. For 1910 Buick Model 17 Touring: Radiator cap, 40"x26" brass windshield, single twist brass bulb horn, complete fan, brass side mounted carbide generator. Owners Manual or literature, or any other parts you may have for this car. Dick Silvera, 1016 E. 13th. St., Antioch, Calif. 94509. Engine for 1902 curved dash Olds. Any parts for one cylinder Cadillac. Top irons for 1913 Ford. L. C. Schroeder, Box #344, Le Marrs, Iowa. For 1912 Stearns-Knight: Sleeve valves; inner ~.D., 4. 250"; 0. D., 4.560"; L, 13 3/32"; Outer I. D., 4. 563"; 0. D., 4.873"; L, 10 23/32". 27" artillery wheels, 2" s pokes, front 10 spokes, rear 12 spokes with 14 3,4" dia. outer bolt circle all spokes. Vesta generator. Air pump, hand pump, pressure gauge and filter for gasoline supply. Arthur W. As e ltine, 2530 Havencrest Dr., Fallbrook, Calif. 92028. Phantom I Rolls Royce Tour car (Brougham), I cyl., buck board, doubl e steam car, electric car, small brass fire e ngine . Ken Higgins, 270 Sunshine Acres Dr., Eugene, Oregon. For 1919 Peerless V-8 Mod-56 Touring: Center and rear main bearing caps, 2 valve caps, 1 for primer c up, 1 for spark plug; carburator float and top with needl e; rear doors and/or hinge s and latches; cut out control lev e r; radiator cap; distributor; tire carrier arms. John York, 1651 King Ave., Napa, Calif. Phone: 226-3890. Want to buy Automobile Trade Journal magazines published b e fore 1909. Want to buy Ford Times magazines published before 1908, 1909, 1910, 1911. Have duplicate issues Ford Times 1912-1917 to trade for wanted issues . Also want Ford News 1920-1938. Please send description and price to Virgil Scott, P.O. Box 339, Arlington, Texas. 76010. For 1909 Maxwell Model K Touring: Sidelamps, tail lamp, top bows and hardware, mounting brackets for headlamps and sidelamps, any literature, 25" Firestone rim with retainer ring s and split ring. Max E. Toby, 2265 Ocean Ave., San Francisco, Calif. 94127. Parts for 1933 Packard 8 Roadster: Fenders, windshield, radiator shell, instruments, motor gaskets, mufflers and pipes or any other parts. Lee Loecy, Orc hard Dr., Chardon, Ohio. Rear deck lid for 1926 Model 'T' Roadster. Ronald B. McClish, Box 664, Chester, Gllif. 96020. Large Stewart Warner speedometer gear #194; also, U bolts for front spring 1913 Hupmobile. Philip S. Hunley, 5455 Woodcrest Drive, Salt Lake City 17, Utah. Want triple twist bulb horn with right hand mount Can be ni c kle or brass . Ralph Lockye a r, 2746 Ocean Beach Hwy., Longview, Washington . Ph o ne: 206-423- 0580. LUNKENHEIMER EXHAUST PRESSURE -~ REGULA TORS Maintain a contlantly ateady. un vuying preuure on fud tank . at all root •nt ·~dL Preat(.ne ca n be w:t from about '.- lb. up to 4 lb1. Combinatio n conden•ing c ham br r and 1tra inrr poM;Ivcl r prcHu · · • hom curyini along any dirt or moiSI•ue. WRITE FO R Alfi'O AND MOTC> Il W).\"r llO<lhl.f: l Lunkenheimer valve as shown. Harry Johnson, 2570 Pioneer Dr., Reno, Nevada. 58 Current Restorations MAKE YEAR BUICK. CYLS. MODEL • 1909. • BODY 2 • • • F. LIST I NGS FOR TH I S DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE SENT TO Guy Prentice 9734 Garnish Drive Downey, California , Touring NEEDED: Headlights, upper portion of rear seat. Herb Prentice, 9734 Garnish Drive, Downey, Calif. BUICK . . . • • • • • • 1909. . 4 . •• 10 •• Runabout NEEDED: Dash oil indicator, water pump, radiator and parts car. Tom Arens, 517 Bridle Road, Glenside, Pa. BUICK· • • • • • • • • 1910. • 4 • • • 17 • • • Touring NEEDED: Radiator cap, 40x26 Brass Windshield, Single Twi s t Brass Horn, Complete Fan, Owners Manual or Literature Brass Carbide Generator, side mounted. ' Dick Silvera, 1016 E . 13th St., Antioch, Calif. 94509 BRUSH • • • • • • • • • 1911 . • 1 • • • E-26 • Roadster NEEDED: Engine parts, dash oiler, switch coil, seat, windshield, radiator cap, any information on roadster body. Quinton 0. Coker, 3647 Washburn sf., Fort Worth, Texas 76107 CADILLAC • • . • • • • 1922 •• V-8 • • . 61 . . Touring NEEDED: Right and left cylinder blocks, both cylinder heads, gaskets, radiator cap, and other miscellaneous motor parts. Ed A. Willis, P. 0. Box 4684, Macon, Georgia. CHEVROLET • • . . • • 1930 • . 6 . • • - .. 4 Dr. Sedan SEND DETAILS ON A POSTCARD . SUBM I T NO MORE OFTEN THAN EVERY THIRD ISSUE, AND BE SURE TO INCLUDE YOUR CURRENT HCCA MEMBERSHIP CARD NUMBER. LIMIT NEEDS TO 20 WORDS. OLDSMOBILE . • • • • . 1903. . 1 • • • - . Curved Dash NEEDED: Rear axle and housing assembly, tiller, transmission parts, control levers, water pump and other parts. Plez Nance, 3609 Ingraham St., San Diego, California. OLDSMOBILE • • • • • • 1914 . • 6 • • • 54 • • • Touring NEEDED: Parts book or copy of same. Forrest M. Record, 163 N. Carson Rd., Beverly Hills, Calif. 90211. OLDSMOBILE • . • • • . 1915. • 4 . • • 42 • • •Touring NEEDED: Sales literature-manual. Drive shaft and tube 33x4, 25" tires and wheels . Hubcaps, flarings, instruments. Jim Webb, 127 'C' Street, San Rafael, Calif. 94901. ORIENT • • • • • . • . • 1906. • 1 • • • - • . Buckboard NEEDED: Front bumper, windshield riser assembly, door mouldings (Aluminum), winged head radiator cap, long shank crank. Ron Brown, 1204 2nd Ave., Gold Hill, Oregon. NEEDED: Owners manual, parts book, sales catalog, specifications, pictures, any information. Mike Gustafson, 2346 J. Street, Eureka, Calif. COLBY CAR. • • • • • NEEDED: A pair of good rear wheels 33 x 4. Also the original carburetor. Bruce R Thompson, Box 285, Mill, Wyo. 1911 •• 4 • • • - • • Raceabout NEEDED: Any literature, two 28" Baker rims, two nameplates that fit on ELCELSIOR engine - oval shape. Are there any other Colby's? W. S. Cherney, 3314 Scenic Dr., Cedar Falls, Iowa. DODGE • • • • • . • • . 1915 •• 4 • • • - • • • Touring NEEDED: First style carburetor and air tube, engine air pressure pump, shift lever, first style rear wheel flanges, oil breather, choke rod. Richard C. Perry, 413 N. James St., Peekskill, N.Y. 10566. DODGE • . • • • • • • • 1917 •• 4 • • • - • • • Touring NEEDED: Ignition switch, crank hole cover, hood, and headlight rim and Kelsey spare tire carrier. Linas E. Dietz, 2114 Carolina St., Lawrence, Kansas 66044. ESSEX • • • • • • • • • 1926 • • 6 • • • - • • • Coach NEEDED: Window raising and lowering handle, cranks and spindles for same. Horn, windshield wiper assemblies, parts catalogue. Ronald J . Putz, 1801 So. Warner Ave., Bay City, Michigan, 48707. FLANDERS. • • . . 1912 •• 4 • • • - . • • Touring NEEDED: Rear axles, outer axle bearings and bearing sleeves. S. Liftchild, 8611 Greenback Lane, Orangevale, Calif. 95662. FRANKLIN . • . • • • • 1922 •• 6 • • . 9B • • .Touring NEEDED: 9" headlight lenses. One man touring top. Chain and chain sprocket for N. E. starter generator. Henry J. Solesbee, 628 Prospect, Petaluma, Calif. 94952. HUPMOBILE • • . • • • . 1911 •• .4 • • • 20 • . Runabout NEEDED: Breeze carburetor, intake manifold, torque tube and drive shaft. W. H. Turner, 3800 N. Hills Blvd., North Little Rock, Ark. 72116. LOCOMOBILE • . • • • . 1922 •• 6 ••• - • • • Touring NEEDED: Clock, tail lite, horn (motor driven Klaxon with short bugle). Edward 0. Butzke, 2502 Van Wick, Inglewood, California. MARMON • • • • . • . • 1924 • . 6 •• 34B .• 7 Pas. Tour- NEEDED: Touring top, Kellog compressor, hub caps, radiator cap, manifold gaskets, top saddles. Thomas O'Connor, 125 Marlboro Rd., De mar, N.Y. MAXWELL . • • . . • • 1909. . 4 . • . K • • • Touring NEEDED: Sidelamps, taillamp, 25" Firestone rim assembly, top bows and hardware, mounting brackets for headlamps and sidelamps and literature. Max E. Toby, 2265 Ocean Ave., San Francisco, Calif. 94127 OVERLAND • • • • • • • 1913 •• OVERLAND • . . . . . • 1912 •• 4 . . . 69T • • . Lim. 4. • 59T •• Touring NEEDED: Headlight reflectors, literature, manuals, jack, stripping and paint samples (Blue). Stan Griffith, 8219 E. 70th, Paramount, California. OVERLAND • • • . . • • 1916 . . 6 • . . 86 . Cl overleaf NEEDED: Almost everything. Especially need 26" wire wheel lockrings, starter, generator, carburetor and correspondence with other owners. Orville Larsen, 4457 N - 900 W. Ogden, Utah 84404. PLYMOUTH • • • • • • . 1928 • • 4 . • . -. • Roadster NEEDED: Cyl. head, intake manifold, rear bumper 20" lock ring, running boards, steering wheel, lock for sidemounts. J.B. Soderberg, 2156 Berkeley St., Salt Lake City, Utah. POPE HARTFORD • . • . 1912 •• 4 .• 27-SOHP.Roadster NEEDED: Complete radiator, carburetor and manifold. What have you? Dr. Scher, 1100 Park Avenue, New York City, N. Y. RAMBLER . • • . • • • 1904 . . 2 • • K . R. E. Tonneau NEEDED: Rear entrance tonneau, two hub caps, gas tank, radiator, two carburetors. Bruce H. Thompson, Box 285, Mill, Wyoming. REO. . • • . • . • . • 1906 • . 1 - - - -. Roadster NEEDED: Steering box and shaft, clutch and stabilizing rods. Twist horn. Frank Nettleton, 102 Barberry Lane, Meriden, Conn. REO . • • • • • • • • • 1908/09 . 1 • . • G • . Runabout NEEDED: Coil box, battery box, fenders, fender and running board brackets, steering column bulb horn, tail light. Harry P. Bean, 6427 Navajo Ave., El Paso, Texas 79925. ROLLS-ROYCE . . . . • 1912 . • 6 . Silver Ghost. Touring NEEDED: 6 steel clincher rims for wire wheels s ize 895 x 135. Combination clock and spee dometer by Elliott. Dr. Scher, 1100 Park Avenue, New York City, N. Y. SCHICKEL • . . • . • • 1912/14 . • 1 • • • - •. Motorcycle NEEDED: Single cylinder, two cycle, engine. The name SCHICKEL is cast on the engine in a triangle. Any l eads greatly appreciated. Harold M. Gilbert, 15 Jefferson St., Dansville, N. Y. STE ARNS • • • • • • . • 1909 . • 4 . • 15-30. Toy Tonneau NEEDED: Engine any condition. Transmission. D ash pattern. '09 manual or copy. Sympathy or anything for Stearns. Vaun Rodgers, 220 N. Lee, El Paso, Texas 79901. THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 59 PARTS WANTED PARTS NEEDED FOR THE FOLLOWIN G CARS: 1910 BRUSH: Buffalo Carburetor. Commutator Cap. 1908 BUICK MODEL 10: Good condition Radiator. Muffler and tail pipe, Drive Shaft. Flywheel oi l shie ld. Be ll y Pan. 1909 FORD "T" : One-piece pan and square-ho le transmission cover. Early no-rivet rear-end. Early head. 1914 FRANKLIN: Taillight (electri c!. Ratchet type throttle control for steeri ng wheel. Ign ition wire condu it. 25-inch Sta nweld number 52 Q.D. clincher non-demountable rims. 1930 FRANKLIN SER IES 147: Taillight. Wire wheel hubcaps . Cigarette lighter. Thermostat and linkage. Fender _lights . Gas cap. Running boards. Set of tools. 1933 FRANKLIN: Front and rear bumpers. Rear "jump seats" for limousine . 1921 SHERIDAN: Connecticut electric clock (2"). Any literature. 1900 WINT O N RUNABOUT: Two hub caps. Tail lamp . 28-inch wheels for single tube tires . Coilbox . Front lamps and brackets. Engine, complete. • CARBURETORS: Detroit lubricator dual throat for 1930 Model 734 Packard. Flechter 1 %'" updraft. Zenith 2" or 2%" horizontal sidedraft. Mayer 1 %" updraft. Corser 1 'is" updraft. Pierce '66;. American Watchtool 1" updraft for Metz. 5 I PLEASE SEND OFFERS OF CARS FOR SALE TO BUD CATLETT, P.O. BOX 10, RENO, NEVADA BRASS WATER PUMP FOR 1907 MODEL 'K' FORD AS PICTURED. ENGINES: '08 'D' Franklin . '07 Franklin 'G '. 1908 Mod el 10 Buick lUnd er Number 4000. No gear case on front.! 1910 Hupmobile . LAMPS : Dietz ' Queen' sidelamps. Gray & Davis bullet. TOOL KITS: Ro lls Royce . Franklin. Bugatti. Others. A lso any ori gina l tools having car names embossed. WIRE WHEELS: Buffalo type HC-4, 20-inch for Fran klin. Also need hubs . 80 mm Rudge - Whitworth . 19- inch for 1928 Franklin (six internal lug s). MISCELLANEOUS: Four valve OHC Miller head for Model 'A' Ford ("Harry A . Miller" cas t into Head). Gray & Davis carbide generator round type. McCord class J lubri cator-approximate ly 12" long, 4" wide by 5" deep. 1926 Cleveland Radiator Shell. Grease guns made by Bassick Mfg. Company. LITERATURE: Cata logs . Manuals . Factory and Advertising brochures. "AIIegemeine Automobile Zeitung" 1907- published in Berlin and Munich . Please Give Full Details and Price in First Letter. Pictures Very Helpful ROGER ELLIS, HARRAH'S AUTOMOBILE COLLECTION, P.O. BOX 10, RENO, NEVADA WANTED For 1912 Mode l 'T' Ford: 12 rivet rear e nd, two piece drive s h aft and ea rly radius rods, comp l ete 1912 motor and tran smission" For 1928 Oakland Cabrio l et, L an dau arms. Ramon Mona s t erio, 632 1 Morella Ave., No. Ho llywood, Calif. 91606. Head li ght Gray and Davis No . SO; tail li ght C· M. Hall No. 5, and Dra gon B ulb Horn. Jam es J. Shelton, 10848 Oakton Way, Rancho Cordova, Calif. $50.00 reward for information that l eads to whereabouts and pu rchase of the Stutz Roadster body that was laying out near Wamsutter, Wyo., a couple years ago. Also any pre 1922 parts large or small. L eslie H a l verson, St. 0 1af, Iowa . 5207 2. Pair o f Di etz I deal o r Dietz Regal s id e lamp s a nd matching tail lamp; Auto car manu a l s, catal ogs, etc. 1897-1911; Fawcett books #196, #207, #359 , a n d Tr en d # 111, # 193. Please write airmail. W. Evenden, U SA Calibration Agen cy, APO, New York, N. Y. 09189. STEAR NS-K NIGHT • . . . 1912 • • 4 . •• 5 Pass • . Touring NEEDED: Inne r and outer sleeves; 27 in. artillary wh ee l s; Vesta generator! air pump, hand pump, press ure gauge for gasoline s upply. Arthur W. Aseltine, 253 0 Hav e ncrest Dr., Fallbrook, Calif. 92028. ST UD EBAKER • . • • • . 1919 • • 6 . • . Big 6. Tour in g NEEDED: Back half of body with doors and handles, top socke t s for back half of body. R ear sp rin gs or c u s hion s (prefer Calif.) W. A. Ja c k s, Box 1 237, Quincy, Calif. 10-Hudson torqu e tub e a n d drivelin e , r ea r end gears or a ll of Westo n Mott rear e nd assembl y. 08-Reo on e cylind e r N ational co il box with round switch'. Oiler release l eve r or pattern. Single twist steering post bulb horn. Vaun Rodgers , 220 N. Lee, E l Paso, Texas. 7990 1. Back issues Gazette: Vol. 7, #1; Vol. 6, # 1 & #3; Vol. 5, 114; Vol. 4, 113 (will accept re productions). For 19 28 Model 'A' Ford Sedan: Drum type tail light, red stee ring wheel, e l ectric wiper motor, early type straight s un vi sor. For 1931 Chrysler Mod e l CG: Man ifold compl ete, h eadlights, tail li ghts , stain l ess wire wheel s , service or s h op manual. E. P. Au sbrooks, Clarksvi ll e Base, Tenn. 1948 Lin co ln V- 12 Repair or Sh op Manual. Not service or own er's manual. State condition, wh e th e r comp l ete a nd askin g price. Robert E. Casey, M.D., 1218 14th. Street North, Texas City, Texas. 7759~ Mod e l 'T' Ford, wanted roadster or touring. Not restored, in one piece, or what have you . Pr efe r brass but will consider other years. Will return a ll pictures . Please s tate price and condition. Must be reasonable . Charles E. Brown, P.O. Box 2, Morri sville, Penna. 19 0 67. Want Classic Phaeton, 1929- 1933, of following type: Chrysler Imp erial Custom 8, CL or CG. Packard 734, 745, 840, 845. Cadi ll ac V16. Stutz DV32. Will co n s ider conve rtibl e Victoria or other open body. Prefer fully restored. F. M. Brunemeie r, 20 20 Court Stree t, Redding, Calif. Want California li cense plates: 1916, 17, 18, 19 , 20, 21 , 22, 23, 43, 44, 55, and 56. Hav e extras of 1951, 26, 38, 31, 34, and 30. Jack Thompson, Rt. 3, Box 408, San Jose, California. 60 r46NDRY MUSEUM John A. Conde of American Motors Corp. sent us this c. 1906 photo of two Pope Toledo cars, presumably taken in Texas . The car at the left is a rare Type X and the one on the right, a Type XII. 61 Toll gate on the 17 Mile Drive near Carmel, California. Note the "Toot your Horn Show your Permit" sign on the roof. Note also the lamp covers on the middle car's lamps . Car at left is a Rambler, others are Buicks. Photo from Ed Anderson of San Francisco . • Keith Marvin of Troy, N .Y. recently located this old photograph of what appears to be a homemade speedster. Does anyone recognize any of the pieces by make? 62 I The Town Pump I eA. S. LEWERENZ COLLECTION 63 64 lhotolibum Clem Kornhoff of Woodridge, New Jersey sent us this. photo of his father and uncle rebuilding a 1912 Model T Ford in 1915 . The unit at the front of the engine is part of a compressed air starter. Member Robert Telfer of Whittier, Ca lifornia submited this photo postcard of a car owned by his father-in -law, Rev. S. D. Rod holm, former President of Grand View College at Des Moines, Iowa. Notation on the back of the card reads: "This is a picture of the car for sa le . 2 cyl. 10-12 horsepower, new carburetor, chains, cab les, sprockets, doub le coi l, timer. Machinery sound, can be run a while with tires but will soon need new. Tires not costly and last long. Can be seen at Grand View Co ll ege, end of car li ne, East 6 and 9th . Will take first reasonable offer I receive." Dr Alfred S. Lewerenz, the Gazette Research Historian, comments : The car is a. Holsman. The locked box on t he front puts it after 1906 and the wrapped cable drive places it before 1909. The double landa u bars on the Victoria top make it a No. 1 0 Runabout. My guess, then, is that the highwheeler is a 1907- 1908 Model 10 Holsman Runabout which cost $750 plus $100 for a leather Victoria top with rubber lap apron. (Inform ation from a 1907 Holsman broc hu re. ) THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May -June 1966 191 2 Model T Ford truck owned by the Kornhoff Bro s. Bakery in Garfi eld , New Jersey . Picture tak en in Spring of 1914 comes to us from member C. E. Kornhoff of Wood Ridge, N .J. Ramblers ·Of about 1913 on the Midland Trail in Utah . Photos from Andy Harrison. 66 lhotollhum mily Member Fred Bauer of Phoenix, Arizona sent us these photos he secured from Fred Kennedy of Flagstaff. Pictured in the car is Kennedy's brother Raymond, onetime Overland dealer in Glendale, California. The photos, taken in about 1915, show the racing conversion of a 1909 shaft drive Locomobile. A "modern" touch is provided by the "S&M" spotlight mounted on the cowl and perhaps powered by a battery carri.e d in the wooden tool box back of the gas tank . These powerful lights, made in Lo s Angeles, were quite popular about 1915 for use on racy-type cars. Tires and rims on the Locomobile, too, have been "modernized." The ad from the December 1908 Country Life in America reproduced here shows the standard Locomobil e "30" . THE HORSELESS CARRIAGE GAZETTE I May-June 1966 DISPLAY YDtJl\ CLUB !HS!GHIA! Official Emblem $3.SO 3lh LARGE SIZE INCHES IN DIAMETER. HEAVY BRASS WITH DESIGN IN RED, BLUE AND BLACK VITREOUS ENAMEL. FOR RADIATOR OR DASH. Lapel Pin $1.7S FULL-COLOR HARD-FIRED VITREOUS ENAMELS AND QUALITY GOLD PLATE, ONE-HALF INCH SIZE. AVAILABLE WITH CLUTCH BACK, SCREW BACK OR SAFETYPIN BACK; STATE STYLE DESIRED. Deca.ls so~ each- 3 for $1.00 FOUR COLOR, LARGE ..SIZE, _FOR \YOUR MODERN C{\R OR ' _,-'I I TRlJCK. ' , ,, , '', \ I / - Gummed Labels · _100 for $1.00 1% 11 OFI<'ICIAL EMBLEM IN FOUR BRIGHT COLORS," SIZE. APPLY LIKE A POSTAGE STAMP ON LETTERS, ENVELOPES, CLUB NOTICES, ETC. . . ~ ,'- . ' . '\ ,' I. D.. Badge /. ~\ so~ 2lh . RED-WHITE-BLUE QUALITY CELLULOID, INCHES IN DIAMETER. WINDOW INSERTS FOR YOUR NAME FURNISHED. Gazette Binders $3.00 STURDY BINDERS SPECIALLY IMPRINTED FOR THE GAZETTE; HOLD TWO TO THREE YEARS. EASY TO USE. Foreign countries, $3.50 ORDER FROM Horseless Carriage Club of America 9031 E. Florence Avenue Downey, California 25% discoun t on Regional Group orders of $25.00 Ca li fo rni a Reside nts Add 4c for Every Doll ar (Sa les Tax)