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for where ttre heil is my Duty
kupector or my Dut5r Solicitor
or words to that
effect' It was onry then I noticed,
about ten or fifteen minutes
later that I,m
told why I've been detained
for over six hours by two police
Officers who
came into my cell' I
want to know why I've been
detained here a, aternoon
with no apparent e4planation
until they realise that a third party
is coming to
my cell to whom f can communicate
in private.
DC GRIFFIHS points
out that he wasn,t present at
KlRK,s arrest.
Could you tell me then
what happened at 2.00 p.m. today?
I wish to know fiom you why
I was arrested and why I have
been detained
for this period oftime and
why did it take over six hours
for somebody to tell
me what they considered
why I was being detained.
DC GRIFFITIIS explains
that if an Officer is in a position
to .book,
somebody and that person
does not provide a name
and address, then a
power of arrest is provided
police
by the
and Criminal Evidence Act.
KIRK complains that he has sustained
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injury during his arrest and is in pain as a result.
Would you like to tell me the ckcumstances of your
arrest?
When I'm satisfied about your information as
to why I was arrested and why
I was detained for so long because you haven,t answered
those questions.
It is pointed out that Mr KIRK is being interviewed
and that the interviewer
is endeavouring to obtain an explanation
ofthe events.
DC
The fact is that you were arrested at two
o,clock.
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KIRK
For what?
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KIRK
As I told Section 25 of the police and Criminal
Evidenct
But they knew who I was. I was outside my surgery
Act
and the general
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were telling them who I was and they knew who
I was anyway, I had just
come from the Police Statio4 having lodged
two serious complaints of
harassment, they knew ail this that is why
I
suspect they were there waiting
for me when I returned to my surgery. What game
are we playing here? I,ve
been to the Police Station
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twice today to complain about harassment and I'd returned on the second
occasion because
I'd decided it couldn't
be done unoff.ciafly, because things
were getting too serious and based on the interview with Inspector TRIGG,
decided
I would have to retum with
a
letter supporting previous letters
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of
complaints of harassment. So to suggest these Police Officers didn't know
who I was and that is why they had the right to arrest me is absolute
nonsense. You may not know it because you are just called in to deal with
this enquiry now.
Mr KIRK confirms that he believes the interviewing Officer may not be in fulI
possession
ofthe facts and states he visited the Police Station for twenty
minutes between 9.40 a.m. aad 10 at Barry. He describes returning to that
Station with previous letters of complaint, which had not been replied to and
a
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letter describing the earlier visit that day en route to Ely Surgery.
Would you accept that you've never seen this Officer before? (PC
THOMAS is present.)
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KIRK
states he may have seen the Officer previously but
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he is not in a
position to say when.
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states that he has not seen
Mr KIRK prior to events at his
arrest earlier that day. The Officer states that he came
on duty at 1340 that
day and the first call he attended was where
Mr KIRK was arrested. The
Officer describes - for Mr KIRK,s benefit attending a report
of a fight at
Grand Avenue at the premises of Supasave. The report
the Ofrcer received
is described and the location of ttre report is also
described for Mr KIRK,s
benefit.
I've
spoken to this Officer
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version ofwhat occurred at about two o,clock today.
Despite what you
think about Police harassment Mr KIRK it,s important
that I get ar
explanation.
I've been detained, I,m on duty, I'm a Veterinary Surgeon
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tonight for emergency work aad I have been detained
the
whore aftemoon,
with no reason given whatsoever until about nine o'clock tonight
That you
cannot get 'round.
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But you are in custody now and in order that you get
released from custody
as soon as possiblg what I want to
do is get an explanation of certain
occurrences that occurred at two o'clock.
Ifyou can - I know you
may be
mad or what have you at the policg but
I want you to do is for you to give
me an explanation ofhow you came to be
arrested. I want your side ofthe
story.
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KIRK
I'm not obliged to give it to you.
DC
As you know, at the beginning of the interview
I
said to you
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don,t have
to say anything unless you wish to do so but
what you say may be given in
evidence". Ifyou don,t waat to tell me what your
side ofthe story is that,s a
matter for you.
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What occurred leading up to my arrest I don,t
think is relevant at this point
oftime concerning my continuation in custody.
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Do you accept that this Officer wished to speak
to you regarding the motor
bike. Questionrepeated.
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KIRK
I don't know.
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I've
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intend to comment.
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can gather
just as I would
do _ just as any police
officer would do, if
I see u motor bike there
I may want to make enquiries
to whether it,s stolen-
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what he interprets as
harassment.
Did tfus Officer come
up and speak to you?
I don,t know.
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states he cannot recall
if it was the Officer present
in the interview or
another Officer. He
confirms that he was
handcuffed and placed
in a police
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Are you willing to give me an
explanation of what happened prjor
to you
being placed in
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van _ handcuffed?
lVlry the relevance
of that? ,ou,ve
told me that I was
arrested because
didn,t Isrow who
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Do you accept
that?
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No I do not.
Do you accept
that you did n:ot
give your name
alld your address,
requested to
when
by this offcer?
Initially I did not.
You did at some
stage?
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because then
they addrer
no need for me
to
who gave your
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that they would know who
I was if it was relevant at
all.
was walking in the park
remember at the time.
This bike : registration
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KIRK
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BMW. Is that your motor bike?
You've been in contact with
the Guernsey police ...........
And we've had no joy - I,m
telling
tlat on tape.
Well who gave you the information
to cause tle Sergeant down
there to
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writ'e on my 6le as I came
through the desk _ Morris
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believed to be very violenq
underlined in red ink. Now if
that didn,t come
fom Guernsey where did that
information come from? ffit
wasn,t from this
Ofrcer that arrested me?
you
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My question iq are you the
owner ofthat bike?
Am I obliged to tell you?
Weil agaiq if you don,t reply
what can I do? you,ve complained
about
being in custody' lve are
certainly making enquiries as
to ttre lawfirl owner
of this bike we can,t have
anyjoy - we,ve got you
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in the Police Station
sitting here with cycle leathers on and a big bike out
yard.
KIRK
there? Why am
Yes, but there were a lot of other bikes in that road weren't
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being attached to that particular bike?
It
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is pointed out that keys in
KIRK's possession fit the cycle'
DC
Is that bike yours? It's a simple question'
KIRK
It is a very simple way to
answer you because your conduct is not becoming
Police will
of an Officer who wishes to keep his nose clean' The Guernsey
it from the Guernsey Police
have informed you by now that not only did I buy
of the musician
- from a Police Officer by the name ofFARNIIAM - the son
in my possession
who you may remember the name of - they know that it was
is my property and
tfuoughout many years in Guemsey and they know that it
youasaPoliceofficerwillhavebeeninformedofthisinformatiorr,during
the Guernsey ?olice'
the last six hours ofmy custody when they contacted
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Speaking
the Guernsey Police are currently before the European Comrrusslon on
investigation by me, due to the stinking behaviour they conduct on a day to
day basis, may be some reason why they have distorted some
ofthe facts to
you, to cause you to detain me longer than is necessary. But to insult my
intelligence by asking me whether I own that bike is really pushing your luck
isn't it?
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The Officer states on tape that they have made enquiries but have not been
able to establish the vehicle's owner.
Mr KIRK states he does not believe this.
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KIRK
Inspector TRIGG no doubt saw me get on the bike outside Barry Police
Station, after I'd been there to complain about harassment.
I
expect they saw
me arrive at the Police Statio4 as I normally arrive on an almost day to day
basis. And that bike is parked outside my Surgery at Ely on a regular basis
and is seen by the E1y Police on a regular basis. It is not until I lodged my
complaint ofharassment, which I have been loathe to do but things are
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appearances
had to appear at stupid Court
mounting up quite fast now' I've
withdraw all charges'
the Police have decided to
where
yet
again,
week
this
just
cash compensation' They're
no
apologies'
no
reasoq
again giving no
is why you 1ot
family and my business' which
my
and
me
to
damage
do
to
out
the night' for the
the afternoon and a1l through
are detaining me all through
into somebody
you're entitled to before it moves
maximum twenty four hours
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me to prove it's my bike
else's patch' How do you expect
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Have You got a 1og book?
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KIRK
No.
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bike?
Well how do You Prove it's Your
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KIRK
I don't kriow, You know that'
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Is the vehicle taxed?
KIRK
vehicle'
It's not IJK taxed, no, it' s not a UK
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How long have You been here?
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KIRK
Some time.
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KIRK questions the Officer regarding
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pay excise dutY.
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Is the vehicle taxed?
KIRI(
You'll have to
ask the person whose bike
it's registered in'
to