Some of recent Keen Kutter and Winchester Counterfeits

Some recent Keen Kutter and Winchester Counterfeits
New key/knife with words “Keen
Kutter” and “E.C. Simmons”.
Knife blade marked Germany .
Counterfeit mini brass anvil with
logo and words "Keen Kutter" on
side. There is also a counterfeit
Winchester mini brass anvil being
sold too. These keep coming from
Springfield MO.
Counterfeit Keen Kutter brass
plumb bob with a steel tip. About 4
3/4" long. Looks like someone
made a stamp with the Keen Kutter
logo w/words and stamped the side
of bob.
Another counterfeit Keen Kutter
brass plumb bob with steel tip.
Shows 16 oz. on the side. Measures
about 5 1/2" tall by 1 3/4" wide.
Folks, Simmons Hardware NEVER
made a brass plumb bob with the
Keen Kutter logo or words on it.
The fake barrel shaped key and
padlock. The key and padlock
opening should be flat.
Fake Keen Kutter padlock with
metal logo. Lock was probably
made in India .
Fake Keen Kutter padlock display.
Fake metal/steel Keen Kutter sign.
Measures 14x14.5 inches.
Some has welded a fake Keen
Kutter watch FOB onto a metal
matchbox or cigarette box.
What a strange bird!!! A
counterfeit Keen Kutter ash tray
and matchbox holder. Someone is
trying to be creative, but it still a
counterfeit. Made by welding a
Keen Kutter watch FOB to some
other metal.
Fake watch FOB. Originals have
maker’s “LE” mark on backside
bottom point.
This is a counterfeit Keen Kutter
watch FOB because it does not
have the initials LE on the back
side, towards the lower point of the
logo. It looks very good, but it is a
counterfeit.
Here is a counterfeit Keen Kutter
belt buckle. Without looking at the
back of the Keen Kutter logo it is
hard to say whether the logo is a
real watch FOB or a fake. The
buckle measures about 3 13/16" x 2
3/4". Sorry, the only way I could
copy the picture from the Web
auction site was to take a negative
(reverse image) of such.
A counterfeit Keen Kutter watch
FOB has been glued to the top of a
newer thermometer. E.C. Simmons
NEVER did issue a thermometer
such as this one. It is pure
counterfeit.
This is a homemade counterfeit
small baseball bat and not
necessarily a good one. Strike
Three!!!!
This 1970s Century English dagger
was made as a novelty item and
imported to the USA. The overall
length of the dagger is 11.5”, with a
blade length of 7.7”, and a handle
that is a little over ¾” thick. One
side of the blade has an etched
flourish with the words “Keen
Kutter”, as well as what appears to
be a scene of a man shearing a
sheep. The ricasso on this side of
the blade is stamped “Poker &
Live, Sheffield” within a shamrock.
The ricasso on the other side of the
blade is stamped “Gambler’s
Companion.” Folks, it is a nice
looking knife, but a recent product
and NOT made by Simmons,
Shapleigh, or Val-Test.
Fake laser cut Keen Kutter logo on
one quart butter churn (actually
the butter churn is new too).
A counterfeit Keen Kutter Shot
Glass. It measures
approximately 2" in diameter
and approximately 2 1/4" in
height. There is a Keen Kutter
logo decal on the outside.
Fake laser cut Keen Kutter logo on
handled jug.
Fake laser cut Keen Kutter logo on
jug.
Fake laser cut Keen Kutter logo on
crock.
A fake Keen Kutter crock about 7
1/2 inches high. This is coming
from North Carolina.
Now someone is talking an amber
glass beer bottle and marked a
Keen Kutter and the words "E. C.
SIMMONS KEEN KUTTER
OIL". When will this stop. These
are coming from Missouri.
Fake laser cut Keen Kutter logo on
what some sellers are calling a
whiskey bottle
This counterfeit E.C. Simmons
stoneware jug has the logo and the
word kerosene painted on the
bottom of the side. A poor paint
job. Jug is about 7 1/4" in diameter
and 10 1/2" tall.
A fake Keen Kutter ink well.
Someone is trying to get the most
out of an etching machine.
Keen Kutter logo cut from paper
and glued to front on two different
alarm clocks.
An old alarm clock that some
decided to enhance with 2 paper
Keen Kutter logos.
A bad attempt to paste a Keen
Kutter logo on the face of a pocket
watch.
Another bad example of pasting a
paper Keen Kutter logo on the face
of a pocket watch.
Two for one - A counterfeit Keen
Kutter pocket watch and a
counterfeit Keen Kutter watch
FOB.
Another example of pasting cut
paper Keen Kutter logo on the face
of a clock. Brass plated clock
measures 10 Inches in diameter
with 4 inch clock face.
The E. C. Simmons Keen Kutter
logo was placed on the face of this
E. INGRAHAM CO. clock which
was made in about 1908. This is
classified as an oak, 12" Drop
Octagon. It is an 8 day, time only
regulator. This clock measures 25"
tall, 18" wide, and 4 1/2" deep. The
is no record of E.C. Simmons
having made such a clock.
You are seeing two such clocks on
the left, both coming up in the same
week, one on ebay and the other at
a local sale in the St. Louis area.
Someone glued a Keen Kutter logo
on the face of this 10 inch
diamenter clock. You know that it
is a new clock (and not Keen
Kutter) because it runs on a AA
battery and has General Electric
below the logo.
This is an original vintage General
Electric Co. Made in America wall
clock with a reproduction fantasy
paper dial over the original. Clock
is 11" across the back.
This is a new counterfeit marble on
the market. Green words “Keen
Kutter Original Company 18701874”.
A glass block with fake etched
Keen Kutter logo
Fake Keen Kutter logo on marble.
Porcelain Door Knob Doorknob
with fake Keen Kutter logo on each
end.
This is a series of new counterfeits
coming from the Quincy IL area.
Someone spent some time copying
the Keen Kutter logo on a color
copier, cutting the logos out, and
gluing the logo to an ashtray, door
knob, and an oil can. You can see
the glue on the back of the paper
logo on the ash tray.
A obvious counterfeit Keen Kutter
pocket mirror, approximately 2
and 1/2 inches in diameter.
Fake Keen Kutter cast iron match
holder, usually 6 ¾ inches by 4 ¼
inches. Normally red, but some are
green background. Probably the
most common fake found.
Fake metal E.C. Simmons Keen
Kutter sign. It measures 15 ½
inches by 10 ½ inches.
Someone decided after people
making $$ on counterfeit
Winchester glass/chain around
items that they would make one
with a the fake Keen Kutter sign as
shown in the previous. Folks it is
still a counterfeit. It is about 8" tall
and 6" wide.
A brown bottle with a laser cut
Keen Kutter logo
Someone spent a lot of time
painting on the Keen Kutter logos
on this wood canister set.
This is the waffle iron that those
who do not know call a salesman’s
sample. However, it is a fake. The
griddle on this fake is about 3-7/8
inches and has a wooden handle.
The real and large size waffle iron
has a wire twist handle.
This is a piece of lead about 3 1/2
inches across and 3/16 tall. It looks
like someone poured lead into a
Keen Kutter waffle iron. I hope
that they did not try to eat it for
breakfast.
Counterfeit KEEN KUTTER steel
stamp. Marking reads: "EC
Simmons, Keen Kutter, St Louis,
USA, Trade Mark" Steel stamp is
about 4" long x 1" diameter.
Actual logo size is a little bigger
than 3/4"x3/4".
Looks like someone copies the top
part of a Keen Kutter letterhead
and glues it on the back of a
paperweight.
Someone stamped the Keen Kutter
logo on this slaw cutter. We have
seen this same stamped logo on
other fake Keen Kutter items.
I guess that the person who made
this fake thought that if one Keen
Kutter logo was good that they
would do better by placing two
logos on the face of this scale.
Another example is below.
A scale which has had placed on
either side and in the front Keen
Kutter logos. Such a scale never
was made by E. C. Simmons. If an
item was been used and has wear
and tear and the Keen Kutter logos
are perfect, then walk away from
such. A waste of $135.00
Take your pick, they are all fakes.
This seems to be a new fake.
Someone has taken a 4” wrench
and stamped Keen Kutter on each
side.
Folks, Simmons Hardware NEVER
made a brass plumb bob. Don't
even think about paying big bucks
for a counterfeit plumb bob such as
this one. Is 16 ox. and measures
about 5 1/2 inches tall by 1 3/4
inches wide. This one came from
Indiana.
This is a new Keen Kutter
counterfeit on the market. Comes
from Indiana. Has a newly
stamped E.C. Simmons Keen
Kutter logo on the 16" by 8 1/2" ice
tongs.
Counterfeit Keen Kutter postcard
made after 1990. The card is made
to look old, but do not be fooled.
Some of the earlier ones sold for
over $400.
The counterfeit business sized card
with the plastic handle, small metal
blade with Keen Kutter paper
label, small spoon type blade, metal
file, and plastic blade is attached on
the card. The card that I have and
3 others that I have viewed all have
a “dirty” white card. All of the
cards are counterfeit and were
made since 1990.
I had to say this - This is quack
Keen Kutter counterfeit. A new
one from an ebay seller in Illinois.
Cast Resin Wood Duck Decoy
Stamped on the bottom USA Keen
Kutter. Measures approximately
13" long X 6" tall.
Another counterfeit Cast resin
wood duck decoy stamped on the
bottom USA Keen Kutter. This one
measures about 16" long by 7" tall.
This old pottery plate measures
10.5 inches, but has new The
Winchester Store words painted on
the plate with the Inman's
Merchantile of Quincy Illinois
Fake The Winchester Store
advertising plate featuring hunting
dogs on the prowl. This plate is
10.5" diameter.
Another fake The Winchester Store
plate with “None so dear as
Mother” and roses on plate. About
8 ¼ inches in diameter. Like most
of the other fake plates they seem to
be coming from Illinois .
If you collect vintage Winchester
memorabilia or early Belleville
Illinois Advertising, you DO NOT
want to add this plate to your
collection. Both the gold and red
paint on this 8 1/8 plate (1912
calendar plate) is new. This item
sold for $332.60 on ebay. I feel
sorry for the buyer even though the
seller indicated that it might be a
fake.
Another counterfeit "The
Winchester Store" "Christmas
Wishes" Calendar Plate. As
everyone knows the use of The
Winchester Store was only during
parts of the 1920s, not 1909.
Painted on the plate is Collvie's
Goods Hannah, WYO. Measures
9" across.
Fake The Winchester Store oil
lamp with a Scovill Queen Anne #2
burner. This piece is 19-3/4" high
with the chimney. The chimney
is 10". The oil reservoir is 5"
across.
Fake The Winchester Store
advertising rolling pin. It appears
to be ceramic. This piece is 10.5"
long. It is 2-1/4"diameter. Dated
1923
Two counterfeit "The Winchester
Store" cast iron frying pans. The
smallest one is probably a ashtray
(3 and 3/4 " in diameter). The
larger is 6 and 1/4" in diameter
(with #3 on bottom).
Let’s hope that this is one of a kind,
because it is a terrible counterfeit.
Winchester never made a plumb
bob out of brass. This bob has
“Winchester” stamped around the
perimeter. It also has a hand
engraved “1894” date. There is a
string attached that has an old
dime dated 1912. Comes in a handmade, lined wooden box. The plum-
bob is about 2.5" and weighs 2.1 oz.
Someone has gone to great lengths
to make this counterfeit.
This is one way to make a
counterfeit Winchester padlock.
Take a new Winchester watch FOB
and put it on large padlock. Either
way you look at the padlock it is
still a counterfeit.
Fake The Winchester Store
advertising paperweight. This
piece is 6" in diameter. It is 1-3/4"
high.
Fake The Winchester Store flue
cover. This piece is 7" in diameter.
One of the painted “The
Winchester Store” was on a brass
hanging sconce/tray. This is a
counterfeit. The pencil marks
around the painted letters were still
there.
The engraving of "The Winchester
Store" brass spittoon is so poorly
done, that only a person who does
not how to spell Winchester would
want it. The "s" on Winchester
looks like a backward "c". The
item is 2 and 1/4 inches high with
the base about 2 inches high.
Unfortunately it sold for over $180
on ebay.
This is a fake Winchester
advertising glass rolling pin with
“The Winchester Store” etched on
it. This piece is 13” long and 2 ¾”
diameter. Looks like the same
etching pattern as is on the oil lamp
above.
A counterfeit Winchester bottle for
gun cleaning preparations. The
bottles are tapered from bottom to
top with a screw type opening,
instead of a straight side bottle and
a cork stopper. The back side of
the label has the words "The
Winchester Store."
This amber bottle measures 13 1/2
inches tall and measures 5 1/2
inches across at the base. The bottle
weighs 3 1/2 pounds and is pure
counterfeit. One side of the bottle it
is etched in the glass
WINCHESTER TRADEMARK
GUN OIL MADE IN USA.
A fake "The Winchester Store"
thermometer (sorry about the
reverse image) from the F. P. Legge
Hardware store. A label was glued
on the top and bottom of the
thermomter.
All of these signs are different and
are counterfeit. The 5" x 7" signs
are made of glass with a frame of
chain and states "Compliments of
the Dogleville Hardware Company,
The Winchester Store 'Sportsman's
Headquarters' Dogleville. . . New
York". These sold recently on an
online auction for between $89$291 for an average of $140. These
continue to be sold on ebay.
During the month of October and
November 2010 at least 50 of these
counterfeits were sold. During the
first half of 2011, over 100 have
been offered on ebay, with many
going for hundreds of dollars. I
could take up most of this fake page
with pictures and descriptions of
these items, but I do not want to
waste the space. This should tell
you something – THEY ARE
COUNTERFEITS.
Counterfeit chain framed
advertisement for Johnson
Hardware Co. Dubuque,
Iowa. The print is under glass and
surrounded by a chain
frame. Picture shows four guys out
on a lake ice fishing. Measurements
are 8 1/4" x 11 3/4"
Glass counterfeit Winchester
advertising. It has a chain frame
with upper left side indicating
Winchester Arms Company,
Tackle and Sporting Goods, Olson
Bros. Hardware, Freeport, Illinois
Ph. 234. The frame size is 11 and
1/2 inches by 8 inches. This sold
recently for $306.
This chain frame indicates
"Compliments of Ed. Maier
Hardware
The WINCHESTER Store
Chrisney, Ind." and measures 5" x
7.75". If only it was not a
counterfeit. The seller has a buy it
now price of "only" $899.99 on
ebay.
Winchester Plane and Carpenter
paper weight - sold on ebay for
$400+. What a waste of $$.
If this was not a counterfeit, it
would be a great advertisement for
The Winchester Store shotgun
shells. The piece is made of glass
with a reproduced Winchester card
with a fake "The Winchester
Store" stamp on the back.. It
measures approx. 4 1/4" x 2 3/4" x
3/4"thick.
The counterfeits are becoming
strange. This paperweight
measures 4-1/4" x 2-3/4" and is 3/4
inch thick. It reads: "THE
WINCHESTER STORE" and
features the faces of Ulysses S.
Grant & Robert E. Lee with their
names written above them on Gold
colored crests and bugles. In the
background are the Civil War
flags. This one was on ebay.
An interesting pocket watch. A
paper dial, what more should I add.
Nice watch, but counterfeit
Winchester watch.
These two counterfeit 11” x 17”
poster is made of a heavy cardstock
material. Someone has taken a
page or two out of an old Shapleigh
Diamond Edge catalog and decided
to copy them to make some fakes.
Unfortunately these are coming
from southern Illinois and southern
Indiana.
Updated 1 April 2016