118 december 2004

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118 december 2004
Index of Contents
Regular Features
About the Cover Pictures and Editorial
News from the Secretary News from the Groups
Society Projects Update
New FH Course, and News from the Services Manager
Useful Web Sites
Forgotten Trades
Parish Register Tit-bits
Forthcoming Events
News from the LRFHS Library
Your Web Master's Report
News from the Record Office
Query Box
Computer Bits
Letters to the Editor
New Members
Members Interests
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Toni Smith
Ray Broad
Mick Rawle
Mike Hutchinson
Mick Rawle
Barbara Harrison
George Smith
Pat Grundy
Mike Ratcliff
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Your Articles
Gaps in the 1871 Census
The 1901 Census On Line
1901 census – yet again
1851 census
Finding Grandmother – Mary Ann Herbert
Do You have a Warry in your Family?
Benefactors of the Poor – St Mary's Church, Melton
Project at Barrow On Soar
Two Great Grandfathers – Two Convicts
History of William Gee 1828-1909
Putting Flesh on the Bones
Looking for William
Two Leicestershire Surnames
The Red Herring of St. John's
Lough Navar Ceremony
Episode On The River Kwai
Philip Kitchen
Lorna Wright
John Stevenson
Lesley Chaney
Dick Harrison
Michael Warry
Linda Brockway
Vincent Thompson
Helen M Booth
B H Hill
Dick Payne
Mrs A Merritt
David Robinson
Elizabeth Higgins
Joe O'Loughlin
J E Whitaker
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Society Events
Annual General Meeting & Open Day 2004
FFHS 2004 – AGM
Forthcoming Events
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Centre Pages
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G.R.O. Birth, Marriage & Death Indexes Search Service
I85I and 1881 Leicestershire Census Search Service
L.R.F.H.S. Bookstall, Postal Book Services
Publications Avaliable on Microfiche
Printed Publications
CD Publications of Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland Indexes
Post Supplies Order Forms
Postage and Packing Rates
Coach Trips – Details and Booking Forms
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About the Cover Pictures……………..
The Front Cover
This postcard of The Technical & Art School, Leicester is postmarked
August 1904
The Back Cover
This postcard shows The Municipal Building, Leicester, and is postmarked
February 1907.
These two postcards were loaned by Mrs E Howgill of Epsom, Surrey.
Whoops……Back cover for Journal 114 – pictures of Thurcaston……..
A little problem! My address is 154A Toton Lane, not 143A, and I am
concerned that someone may write to me and the letter go astray.
Regards
Jean Morley
Editor – Apologies to Jean for this typing error. If you have written to Jean
and not had a reply, please write again.
Editorial – Toni Smith
During January, I took a 3-week holiday to the Philippines and Australia – a
wonderful experience and returned feeling keen and ready to put this journal
together.
I had left my computer on, to download all my emails (mostly from members
and contributors to this Journal) as I knew that during the 3 weeks away there
would be a surfeit of mail and my mail box would overflow and cease to
function at the server end. Yes, I was correct – I returned to over 8,000
emails! Of course most were Spam. I did my best to go through them all, but
with that many I am sure that I have deleted some that needed action. I do
have a Norton Antispam programme, but that just puts them into the delete
box – and sometimes it gets it wrong.
If, therefore, you have sent me anything for inclusion in the Journal and I
have not acknowledged your letter, please resend it. I am back retrieving my
mail daily now, and still getting around 100+ per day.
I hope that many of you managed to watch the TV programme about 'The
Elephant Man', which the Society helped to research. Congratulations must
go to Peter Cousins and Jean Perry for the excellent work they carried out.
In Journal 114 there was an article by Pat Chapman called 'Coston and The
Kettles'. Pat, I have mislaid your address and a member would like to get in
touch. Can you please get in touch with The Editor.
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News from the Secretary – Ray Broad
Disability Discrimination Act
The Federation of Family History Societies has advised us that this
legislation will apply to us. We had previously thought that as a society, we
might have been exempt. What it will mean to us is that we will as far as
possible have to ensure that all our activities and services are equally
available to all our members including those with any sort of handicap.
Currently a check is being made on all the venues that we use for meetings.
If any of them are deemed unsuitable and will not be made suitable by
October 2004 we will have little option but to move to somewhere else.
Our own library is a particular problem as it can only be approached by a
flight of stairs. Our landlords have assured us that remedial action will be
taken before the deadline in October. For those of you that use this facility
expect some disruption whilst the work is taking place.
Other areas such as the readability of our Journal and Websites are being
considered so again expect some changes in the future.
News from the Groups
Computer Group
Evington Village Hall, Church Road, Evington, Leicester
7.30pm (plenty of free car parking)
CHAIRMAN
RAY BROAD, 11 Spring Lane, Wymondham LE14 2AY
[email protected]
Forthcoming Meetings
Mar 29th
June 7th
July 26th
Use of Search Engines in Family History
Publishing your Family Tree
Absolute Beginners
& What is available at the Research Centre
Peter Cousins
Parchment Printers
Reviews
November 2003
Data available on CD
Ray Broad
The popularity of the computer group continues, again with a good turn out
of members. Ray gave a very interesting talk, reminding us of some of the
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information available on CD for the family historian. One thing for sure in
genealogy, there is always something new being put onto CD for us to look
at, either at home or in the society library. Much of the information on CDs is
indexes, which allows you to research at home, and therefore allowing you to
use your time at the Records Office more constructively.
Most of us are familiar with the 1881 Census on CD and know how useful
this is but what about those increasingly rare books such as Trade Directories,
now only found in reference libraries and records offices. Now you can own
your own copies, on CD of course. Many members will have learned a great
deal, and those who thought they already had a good knowledge would also
have learned a lot more.
Brian Johnson
26 Jan 04
Plotting your Past
Dr David Postles
The cold weather and the threat of snow was probably the reason for the
lowest turn out so far for the Computer Group, but 40 brave souls attended
the brief AGM of the group and to hear Dr David Postles of Leicester
University give an interesting talk about GENMAP UK V2.
This computer software was devised by Steve Archer for plotting historical
data. David demonstrated how this can be used by family historians to
produce maps showing the locations of ancestors and family throughout
either county or nationwide.
Text, lines or arrows can also be added to add interest as well as different
symbols to indicate different names or families. At just under £30
genealogists could find this programme useful.
David also demonstrated a Palaeontology programme that would be very
useful for translating medieval writing - perhaps essential if you get back that
far!
Brian Johnson
Hinckley
The Hinckley Library, Lancaster Road, Hinckley –
7.00 to 9.00 pm
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
BARBARA HARRISON, 114 Hinckley Road, Leic Forest East, Leics LE3 3JS
JEAN PERKINS "Majordene" Aston Lane, Aston Flamville,Hinckley,LE10 3AA
Forthcoming Meetings
Apr 7th
May 5th
June 2nd
A Pawnbroker’s Life
Computing in Family History
Parish registers other than baptisms
Ken Day
Ray Broad
M & J Billings
Reviews
3 December 2003
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Ray Morris had devised a not-to-be-taken-too-seriously quiz about family
history matters, and we also had a picture quiz to identify. This was well
received and provoked a competitive element before we went on to partake of
'seasonal nibbles'
6th January 2004
Unfortunately our scheduled speaker was unable to attend so we opened the
meeting to members – to look at their progress, interests and queries.
Driscilla showed us a silhouette and photos she'd found whilst sorting out her
brother's house. David Harrison (husband of the Society librarian) told us of
his complicated family history of divisions and disinheritages and how he'd
only recently made contact with his cousin. Other members told us anecdotes
and of their current progress. It proved an interesting and informative session.
Pat Campton
Leicester
The Royce Institute, Crane Street, Leicester
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
7.30pm
PETER COUSINS, 13 Langton Road, Wigston, Leicester LE18 2HT
ANN COUSINS, 13 Langton Road, Wigston, Leicester LE18 2HT
Forthcoming Meetings: Mar 10th
Apr 14th
May12th
Jun 9th
Family History & Folklore
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
16 years in Victoria’s Army
Poor Law Records
Bob Trubshaw
Ian Small
Ken Wheatley
Anne Cole
Reviews
November 2003
George Gamble started his talk by showing us the 'Yangtze Medal'. It was
awarded to the members of the crew of the HMS Amethyst. This ship was
involved in the Yangtze in 1949 and her cat, 'Simon' was awarded the
Dickens Medal – awarded to animals for bravery.
Mr Gamble concluded his talk by narrating an incident that happened near
Gretna Green in 1915. It was a train collision, which resulted in great loss of
life. The medal, which was awarded posthumously to one of the victims of
this horrific accident, was a victim of war who never participated in a battle.
A member of the Scots Guards en route to Gallipoli.
January 2004 The Joseph Merrick Story
Peter Cousins
After a brief introduction, we were shown a video of the TV production about
'The Elephant Man'. Peter explained how the research was carried out for the
hunt for the descendants of the Merrick family. The nearest living
descendant, Pat Selby, was present at the meeting and answered questions
from the floor.
Loughborough
The Community Lounge, Burleigh Community College, Loughborough 7.30pm
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CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
MICHAEL HUTCHINSON, 197 Cole Lane, Borrowash, Derby DE72 3GN
MAGGIE HEGGS, 18 Tamworth Close, Shepshed, Leicester LE12 9NE
Forthcoming Meetings; Mar 12th
Apr 2nd
May 14th
Jun 11th
What Mother in law didn’t tell me
500 years of Emigration
Five Clues to Finding Father
Women at War
Liz Ward
Ian Clarke
Sue Horton
George Gamble
Reviews
12th Nov 2003 Enclosure and Village Labourers
Mick Rawle
We were both informed and entertained as Mick Rawle took us through the
detail of the way the previously feudal life of village labourers, and others,
was adversely transformed by the ruthless use of enclosure. In 1760 very
little of the feudal lands was enclosed but by 1844 six million acres had been
enclosed.
Although enclosure was achieved by means of a separate Act of Parliament
relating to each area of land to be enclosed, in many cases, if not most, the
process was severely distorted by corruption and cronyism. Rarely was any
thought given to the draconian impact of removing all ‘rights of common’.
Petitions against an Act had little chance of being considered and the few that
were heard were usually ignored. Indeed in one case there was an attempt to
make any objection a capital offence!
Preventing grazing, gleaning and cultivation brought about massive
deprivation and starvation caused many deaths of the young and old and
forced much relocation. The number of the deprived was increased by the
discharge of soldiers, sailors, and those previously doing war-related work,
following the defeat of Napoleon at Waterloo in 1815. The ways in which
the Poor Law/ Workhouse arrangements were operated served only to
complicate and worsen an already chaotic situation and only the authorities’
cruel treatment, brutality and punishment prevented revolution of the ‘French
model’.
Mick related harrowing details of individual cases and closed with a
quotation – “What have the poor left us apart from ourselves. Absolutely
nothing because that’s what they had.”
The number and variety of questions bore eloquent witness to the way in
which Mick’s talk had provoked thought and reaction in his audience.
Maggie Heggs
Market Harborough
The Harborough Museum, Adam and Eve Street,
Market Harborough at 7.30pm
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
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JANE MOELWYN-HUGHES, 21 Launde Road, Oadby Leicester LE2 4HH
BARRY MANGER, 58 Gwendoline Drive, Countesthorpe, Leicester LE8 5SF
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Forthcoming Meetings
Mar 18th
Apr 15th
May 20th
Jun 17th
Leicestershire Slate Industry
A skeleton in the cupboard
Non Conformity and Dissent
Visit to Hallaton Museum & Village
David Ramsey
Maureen Waugh
Simon Pawley
Diana Courtney
Reviews
November
Follies and Curiosities Diana Courtney
On a miserable November evening we were whisked away into the
Leicestershire countryside looking at follies and curiosities with Diana
Courtney, a very experienced Blue Badge Guide.
In our busy lives these days we tend not to look around us so it was most
interesting to have these things pointed out to us. Certainly we have plenty of
places to visit next summer from Top Hat Terraces to Gibbets.
January 2004 opened with an excellent talk on Beginning Your Family
History. Eric Orbell has an easy style and was full of knowledge about the
subject, and with the help of a Power point Presentation gave us some very
useful advice and tips. Even the experienced researchers found something of
value in his talk.
Jane Moelwyn-Hughes
Previews
15th April 2004 Skeleton in the Cupboard
This is the story of my unknown, unmentioned grandfather. It is a tale that
takes us round Europe, from a favoured childhood in a small Irish town to a
lonely death in London; from language teaching in Belgium and Berlin
through internment in the First World War and a brush with British Naval
Intelligence. And just what was his connection with Roger Cusement, hanged
for treason in 1916?
20th May 2004 Non Conformity and Dissent
The talk will look at the history of English nonconformity and dissent and at
how important it is in the family trees of most English families - all the more
so because a lot of families don't even realise they have nonconformity in
their history! We will look at how to detect the tell-tale signs and how to
locate records which can help to uncover it in your family tree.
17th June 2004 Visit to Hallaton Village
Diana Courtney, a Blue Badge Guide will tell us about the many interesting
buildings including the Church and the history of Hallaton. Afterwards there
will be an opportunity for supper at a local pub.
Melton Mowbray
The United Reform Church, Chapel Street, Melton Mowbray
at 7.30pm
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CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
MICK RAWLE, 9 Witham Close, Melton Mowbray, Leicester LE13 0EA
CHERYL RAWLE, 9 Witham Close, Melton Mowbray, Leicester LE13 0EA
Forthcoming Meetings
Apr 1st
May 6th
Jun 3rd
Parish Records
First World War
History of British Prisons
Simon Pawley
Cynthia Brown
Richard Papworth
Reviews
Parish Registers by Mick Rawle
Due to illness, George Gamble's talk on Medals had to be cancelled but Mick
Rawle, Chairman of the Melton group, stepped in with an informative talk
about Parish Registers. Mick began by explaining that the term "parish
registers" can only refer to Church of England registers, and gave some
understanding of non-conformist registers. He explained the evolution of
parish registers, beginning with the earliest 16th Century records, often in
Latin, in which baptisms, marriages and burials are shown together in
chronological order and pointed out the need to be observant in studying
them. He also explained the change of calendar in 1752. Hardwicke's
Marriage Act 1753 meant that marriages were recorded in a separate register
from 1754, with witnesses and often with the dates of banns, and the
introduction of printed registers in 1813 then separated baptisms from burials
and included more information. Finally, Civil Registration in 1837 saw the
marriage certificate as we know it today. Mick illustrated his talk with
examples from parish registers, illustrating spelling variations, and ranging
from the humorous to the sad and, sometimes, salacious.
December 2003
Melton group committee led the December meeting with a programme of
four short talks based on the census. Mick Rawle started with a quick resume
of census, starting with the Doomsday returns in the 11th century,
progressing through to the modern census in 1801. As always he had an
oddity to show us - the strange entry he had found on the 1881 - a family with
such unusual Christian names they sounded remarkably modern - look for
Ocean Rolls to reveal all!
Lesley Chaney then took us through the trials of having family in London.
She pointed out that the population of London in 1871 was over 3 million so
looking for ancestors on the census is almost impossible unless there is other
information to help the search. She listed the useful guides and indexes
available and the census originals on CD, which allow browsing at home. Her
knowledge of her home territory and the summary of the migration patterns
into and around the capital were extremely enlightening.
Ted Hill then took us through a tour of how the census taught him more about
his wife's family, said to have been gipsies who owned land in London, lost
because they could not prove descent, they actually seemed a little more
down to earth - ag labs in Oxfordshire.
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The final speaker was Ray Broad who showed us the wonders of his new toy
- a distribution map programme of the names from the 1881 by number of
occurrences/county/ poor law district/Christian names etc.
Every one clamoured for a go, including Mick who found quite a few
Oceans. What a good finish, lets hope Santa brings us all one of these this
year!
January 2004
Melton group started the New Year with local historian Jenny Allsop taking
them through the new 'Heritage Trail' boards soon to be installed through the
town.
She spoke of the history of each particular location and of the difficulty in
deciding what to put on each board as so much had to left off. Images from
art and old photographs added to the historical interpretation of some of the
most important locations and events in the town and the whole is to published
as a leaflet in the early summer. Anyone with a connection to Melton should
find this trail of interest.
Linda Brockway
Rutland Group
The Rutland County Museum, Oakham
at 7.30 p.m.
CHAIRMAN
SECRETARY
RAY BROAD, 11 Spring Lane, Wymondham, Leicestershire LE14 2AY
HILARY WALLACE, 25 Main Street, Empingham, Rutland LE15 8PR
Forthcoming Meetings
Apr 5th
Death & Funeral Customs
May 10th What’s in a name
Jun 14th Follies & Curiosities of Leics & Rutland
Cynthia Brown
Jean Perry
Diana Courtney
Reviews
12th Jan –500 Years of Emigration - Ian Clarke
The talk embraced 500 years of emigration from Great Britain and Ireland
beginning in Tudor Times.
9th Feb – AGM and Members evening
Preview
8th Mar – Story of the Early Post 1623-1840 - Derek Smeathers
The history of the national postal services up to the 1840’s shown on slides.
There are also items from Derek’s collection, which illustrates the mails in
Northamptonshire.
5th April – Death and Funeral Customs – Cynthia Brown
The elaborate display of the Victorian funeral often represents a defiant
‘celebration of death’ – but how and why did funerals and their associated
customs change during the 20th century? Also some of the local customs and
superstitions associated with death.
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News from the Projects Co-ordinator
Mick Rawle
Census Projects
1861 Census Indices for Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland
All packs for all three indices have been issued out.
Regarding the
Leicestershire Index, we are reaching the final stages and Cheryl now has to
do the final checks on about 30 packs to prepare them for the final index.
She has already started on the Borough of Leicester Index, and the Rutland
Index will follow shortly after the other two. I expect to finish Leicestershire
about the end of March and the Borough of Leicester about the end of April.
We intend to produce a CD of both at the same time, so don’t expect that
before the end of April.
Other Census Indices
The 1871 Census is half on film and half on fiche, so there will be packs of
photocopies of the Census pages and fiche packs as well. However, I’m not
ready to produce any packs for that yet due to the time required. I will have
to sit in the library at the photocopier for hours and hours getting copies of
the pages. It will get done, but in slow time and I don’t anticipate doing it
until after the 1861 Census is published.
Parish Register Projects
……..The latest word about the next CD of Parish Registers from the USA is
that it is not due to be completed until early in 2005.
Doreen Furby is continuing with the Rutland Parish registers and requires all
the help she can get. If you can help, contact her on: [email protected]
or contact me and I will send you her telephone number and address.
I am continuing to print out packs for the County Burial Index and they are
appearing in the projects tray regularly. Many people are helping out with
this project, but I need to spend a lot of time typing in the amendments and
then issuing out the recently transcribed parts for checking. Again, this will
get done but unfortunately I have to earn a living as well as do all this Project
work, so it will be some time before I can organize it.
We now have people working on the Card Indexes in the LRFHS Library and
have had our first batch computerized by Jean Kent – thanks Jean. The
marriages in the Borough of Leicester from 1538 to 1754. They now require
checking and that will be done when I can find someone who can get to the
ROLLR and read old writing – any volunteers?
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Welford Road Cemetery Project
Brannon Cope our computer entry operator has decided to stand down after
many.. years sterling work on our behalf. Many thanks for all your efforts
Brannon, they have been much appreciated by my predecessors and myself.
Brannon has computerized almost all the County Burials and Welford Road
Cemetery Burials up to date.
Here is a plea from Pat Glasse
Help with the Welford Road Cemetery project is particularly welcome now.
We could use transcribers, checkers and people to type the records into a
spreadsheet. Society members have already transcribed nearly half of the
Welford Road Cemetery records. We want to publish the first quarter of
these, 1850 to 1875 as soon as they are checked. Meanwhile transcription and
input needs to continue. Experience is not necessary, though it helps. The
instruction packs are now shorter because most entries are straightforward.
Some entries are quite interesting. Access to a microfiche reader is necessary.
You can ring Pat Glasse on 0116 2889719
or email
[email protected].
You can pick up work from the project trays in the Library, or we can arrange
delivery.
Pat and her husband Malcolm run the Projects Evenings held on the third
Wednesday of each month in the LRFHS Library at 7pm, if you can afford the
time please go along and help .If you haven’t been before please ring Pat
first to ensure that there is definitely a meeting.
Poor Law Project
John Savage finished this project in November where he transcribed on to
computer all the Poor Law Index cards that are in the ROLLR. There are
about 20,000 cards with over 30,000 names and so we have published a CD
of it. What a great effort John, 30,000 thanks.
Quarter Session Project
As soon as he finished the Poor Law Project, John Savage asked me what
else he could do, so I showed him the Quarter Session Records I had been
keeping up my sleeve for some unsuspecting person and he jumped at the
chance to take them on. He is extracting all the Poor Law cases from the
Quarter Session Court cases held for the County of Leicester. These are the
most complete series, but there are others for the Borough and for Rutland,
however all the Rutland cases were destroyed and many of them for the
Borough as well, but he will try to extract as many as he can from all of them,
and make a name index of them. I have also shown him some indices for the
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Order Books as well, so we are going to incorporate those in the index as
well. He is working with the ROLLR as he did for the Poor Law Index and
the cooperation of members of the ROLLR is much appreciated.
New Family History Course
An Intermediate Genealogy Course being held at the Stocking Farm
Community Centre, Leicester starting on April 22nd from 1-3pm and running
for ten weeks.
The tutor will be Mick Rawle and the course will include a trip to the
Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland Records Office and to the National
Archives at Kew.
For course fees (not including the trip to Kew) contact Stocking Farm
Community Centre on 0116 2995651 or for more details of the course contact
Mick on 01664-854691. If you can't make a daytime course then ask
Stocking Farm to put on an evening course as well. More Beginners Courses
are planned for September this year and more Intermediate courses are
planned to start in January next year.
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News from the Services Manager –
Mike Hutchinson
Members Interests.
The complete list of current members interests can now be found on the
Society’s web site
www.lrfhs.net
together with a mail link to permit requesting the details of the member who
posted them. This made up from the initial and additional members interests
submitted to and published in the Journal.
The web site also permits members to add new names and to change existing
details. The input screen also requests an e-mail address in case I have to
check any details, and to contact (whenever possible) non-members who
make up about 66% of the submitted entries via the web site.
As some of our members do not have or want internet access, it is essential
that all new and additional interests are sent to the society in the normal way
so that they can be published in the Journal, thus ensuring that they have the
widest circulation.
The listing will only cover existing members, so each July members who
have not rejoined for the current year will be removed.
Mike Hutchinson – Services LRFHS
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Gaps in the (1871) Census
by Philip Kitchen
Until recently I had thought the two biggest challenges in using the Census
returns were: 1) Compensating for transcriptions errors (e.g. LONGDALE for
LANGDALE), both in the original schedules and in the more recent
indexes (especially the 1901 index!), and
2) Searching for the proverbial needle in a haystack where I didn’t
have an exact address. More than 25 years of family history research
had not prepared me for the possibility that whole sections of the
census might have gone missing!
But after many hours of fruitless searching I discovered this to be the case for
Curzon Street, Leicester in 1871. [Admittedly my comments relate to the
Family Records Centre in London. The ROLLR in Wigston may have spotted
the gap!]
My confusion began when I discovered Curzon Street was missing from the
FRC 1871 Census Street Index. It is clearly listed for all the other years from
1851-1901. So what happened in 1871?
Eventually, after the tedium of searching through rolls of film I had one of
those magic ‘Eureka’ moments we all long for. There it was! Or at least a
mention of it. In fact, in 1871 Curzon Street had its own Enumeration District
(No. 64 / Ward 3) in East Leicester (RG10 / 3278 / Fol. 1), the summary
sheet referring to “All that part of St. Margaret's Parish situate in Curzon
Street, Alma Cottages, Spa Cottages with all Courts and Yards, including
Garibaldi Cottages.”
But alas success was followed by disappointment as the next sheets were
clearly for ED No. 65! Enquiries at The National Archives (formerly PRO)
brought the response “The original schedules for ED 64 are no longer held. It
is possible they were never forwarded by the Enumerator, or they have
subsequently gone astray.”
The scale of the ‘gap’ is evidenced by the Enumerator’s summary which
refers to “Houses: 236 Inhabited; 5 Uninhabited; 5 Building; Persons: 517
Male; 563 Female; Total: 1080”, a considerable number for the borough at
that time.
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Obviously there is no way we can hope to retrieve the missing pages —
unless they have ‘only’ been misplaced. But I would like to hear from anyone
who has confirmed BMD references to individuals known to have been living
in Curzon Street immediately before or after the 1871 census, say between
1869-1872. I should also be pleased to hear from other readers if they too
have come across similar gaps in any of the Leicestershire / Rutland
censuses, not just 1871.
Philip Kitchen, Lyulph Cottage, School Hill, Seale, Farnham, GU10 1HY
[email protected]
The 1901 Census On-line
By Lorna Wright
The 1901 census has had a lot of bad press (understandably so, especially as
the 1881 puts it to shame) but I have to admit I was soon thanking it.
My story begins in Market Harborough with the marriage of Thomas Rollins
& Ann Collins. They had 10 children – 5 boys and 5 girls. All the boys lived
until old age, but of the girls only one survived past 2 years. I was determined
to find out what became of the surviving daughter. Great idea but not as easy
as it sounds.
The family stayed at the same address after
moving to Wellingborough in the late 1850s,
Naomi Ruth
very helpful for census details. It was here that
Naomi Ruth was born in 1865. I have been
unable to find baptism for her or her siblings but
she appeared on the 1871 census as a 6 year old
scholar, then 1881 as a 16 year old “General
Serv”. Then in 1891 I hit a snag as Naomi was
no longer with her family. Bright idea I would
scour the 1891 Wellingboro’ census for any
Naomi’s or Ruth’s and this might produce her
married name. There are VERY few Ruth’s and only one Naomi on that
census and none were mine.
Perhaps she’d died, but there was not a burial for her. I had hit one of those
brick walls we all bang our heads against at some point in our research.
Then (eventually) came the release of the long awaited 1901 census. I put in
her details, as much as I knew, but nothing! I put in her siblings details as
much as I knew but still nothing! I actually had a copy of census details from
one family group (Kettering Library has Northants 1901 census on
microfiche) but they would not appear on my computer. Help came in an
article written by LRFHS editor Toni Smith. It appeared in Practical Family
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History (Nov. 2002) and I nearly dismissed it as another census article but
the fact it mentioned Northamptonshire (my home county) caught my
interest.
With this article in front of me I tried again and BINGO. I was ironically,
putting in too much info. I typed in the first name (not taking into account
first name spelling differences and abbreviations was one downfall the first
time round) and I found a brother who had moved away. I immediately paid
the fee (minimum £5.00) using my husbands credit card and there he
appeared at the bottom of the household, my first thought was lodger but on
scanning to the relationship column it said “Brother”. The head was an
unknown surname (Driver) but looking at the wife her first name was Naomi.
I actually laughed and shouted out loud. Her brother wasn’t in Burton very
long but thankfully he was staying there on census night.
Looking in the telephone book there were 2 Drivers still in the area so I wrote
to them both. The first reply was no connection but very helpfully supplied
me with the address of the local newspaper.
The next reply was as good as winning the lottery to me as when I opened it
out fell a photograph; I held my breath while I read the letter that was from
Naomi’s Grandson. I had found Naomi Ruth and was now looking at her
smiling face.
I have since made a visit to Burton and met not only her Grandson Reg but
also her last surviving daughter aged 101 who has an amazing memory (even
better than mine). Thanks to her tales the list of names became people. I saw
where Naomi’s house once stood (now council flats) the church where she is
buried and so much more.
I have since met other grandchildren and was shown newspaper clippings
which details Naomi’s funeral, family events and even Uncle Jack (the
brother on census night) in the background of the first pedestrian crossing
being used in Burton On Trent.
The brilliant Freebmd website has since given me her wedding date.
This shows the 1901 census can be helpful and for all you groaning at
another success story, I have spread sideways as I am still stuck at the same
place I was at 3 years ago when I began. Any Thomas Rollins/Rawlins born
at Kettering in about 1829 please show yourself, you will be greeted with
open arms.
Thanks goes to Toni Smith, Naomi’s family (especially Reg) and those
people (known and unknown) who have helped me.
Lorna Wright
[email protected]
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1901 census – yet again!
Computer weekly – 18th November 2003
Prison inmates disrupted a project to publish the 1901 census online, costing
the prison Service £1.8m, according to a National Audit office report released
last week. Offenders in UK jails were supposed to put details of 32.5 million
census records on to IT systems but quality control tests found that some
inmates had entered the work "screw" when a person's employment was
listed as prison warder or gaoler.
As a result the Prison Service, which received £1.1m for the work, had to
outsource the project to India and Sri Lanka at a cost of £2.9m.
This gem was sent in by John Stevenson
1851 Census
The following little gems were found and sent to the editor by Lesley
Chaney
HO107/1562 (Bermondsey)
f111, p53
This is the End and thank Heaven for it and may the next Enumerator receive
as much enjoyment with it as I have done.
(signed) B. P. Smith
f140, p51
May the Enumerators the next time the Census is taken be better paid for the
labour and responsibility that is entrusted to them.
(signed) Hy. Phillips Junr
An Enumerator's lot was not a happy one, evidently!
Sad News………….
I have some sad news for all the Project Team and those of you in the Society
who have known or worked with Pat White. She passed away in Glenfield
Hospital, Leicester on the morning of New Year’s Eve. She was a tireless
worker for the Society, having transcribed endless parish registers over the
many years she has been a member.
I am only the latest in a long string of Project Coordinators whom she
worked for and I always found her friendly and willing to take on virtually
any task that didn’t involve computers. We have published much of what you
have done Pat, so the results of your efforts will be visible for ever, and your
most recent efforts will be published soon. Thanks very much, we are already
missing you.
Mick Rawle
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Useful Web Sites
I am writing local history articles called Appleby's History In Focus for the
Appleby Magna web-site:
http://www.applebymagna.org.uk/appleby_history/index.html
In the In Focus series I am writing up 30 years or so of delving into the
village's history. What may be of interest to some of your members is that in
the last four articles Nos. 19 to 22, I have been dealing with the 1841 census
for Appleby Magna.
'Dealing with' means comparing the 1841 census returns with a detailed Map
and Reference of the parish dating from 1831. I have tried to 'walk' round the
village with the census enumerator and work out from the 1831 information
just where everyone lived. There is sufficient direct correspondence between
the two dates to do this with a good degree of confidence. As you will know,
without extra information, the 1841 census is rather lacking in details.
Not the least interesting thing about Appleby is that from Saxon times until
the 1890s (when the county councils came in) the village was divided
between Leicestershire and Derbyshire. The boundary line ran between the
houses and there were even 'islands' of each county within the other. The
consequence of this division is that the records for the village are also divided
between the counties – a family and local historian's challenge! I have been
putting the two 'halves' together.
My articles are illustrated with maps; and photographs showing
buildings well before modern developments.
There were 1075 official inhabitants in 1841 and I suspect that a quite a few
of their descendants must be among your members.
Richard Dunmore.
Editor: I have just made a web site for Little Stretton, which includes the
history of the village, houses, church and chapel. I have transcribed all the
censuses from 1841 to 1901, monumental inscriptions both inside and outside
the church, and added three wills of Little Stretton people. It is within the
'Leicestershire Villages' site, click onto Market Harborough then Little
Stretton where you will find it under Village History.
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People often ask, or comment, on the value of money in times past. I came
across this website giving values of the £ from 1264 to the present:
http://eh.net/hmit/ppowerbp/pound_question.php
It also computes how much money in a given year was worth in another year,
ie, in 1700 how much money would have been worth 2s..6d in 1900? 10s is
the answer!
I have put a file in the library with £ equivalents from 1270 to March 2003.
Barbara Harrison – Society Librarian.
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Just found a very interesting site, particularly those members who went on
the France trips. Thought if there was a spare inch to fill perhaps.
www.kev84.worldonline.co.uk/soldiersdied.html
To me, it not only put names to the numbers but it puts faces to the names.
Brian Johnson.
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Anyone interested in Enderby Village should look at
http://www.enderbyheritage.org.uk
Peter Cousins
Forgotten Trades - by Mick Rawle
Higgler
Often seen on Census Returns, but do you know
what it means? Also known as a haggler, cadger, hawker or pedlar – so he is
your ‘rag and bone man’ or ‘tinker’ who haggles and then buys and sells
second hand stuff.
Hocus Pocus Man
No, not a magician! He was the Ice Cream seller –
remember the Mazzarella family of Leicester? They were hocus pocus men.
Horse Marine
Put horses and water together and what have you
got – something to do with canals. This chap pushed and pulled the canal
boats where horses couldn’t be used.
Horse Stover
Horses again? Not this time. This chap was the
fumigator. He went into houses to rid them of cockroaches, fleas and other
delightful bugs, or when the occupants suffered from an infectious disease. I
don’t suppose he stopped with just the house – I bet he fumigated a few of
the human occupants as well.
Hush Shop Keeper
Better keep this one quiet! A Lancashire term for a
person who brewed and sold beer without having obtained a licence.
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Finding Grandmother - Mary Ann Herbert
by Dick Harrison
My father’s maternal grandmother, Mary Ann Herbert, nee Chetwyn, has
always been a bit of a mystery, she had died quite young and no one today
knew when, where or why. They lived in Leicester and moved house
frequently so finding them in the censuses unaided was virtually impossible.
After his first wife’s death my great grandfather, James Herbert, had married
a widow with several children by her first husband and now no one could
remember the name of this lady or when they married.
In the 1901 census I stumbled upon my grandmother’s twin sister, Emma
Brooksby, and the surprising note that she had been born in Staffordshire.
Surprising that is until I recalled that my father had said my great grandfather
had been in the Staffordshire militia.
I was new to family history so I joined the L&RFHS and aid was
immediately available. I enlisted the society’s 1881 surname search service to
find James Herbert for me. In no time at all I received photocopies from the
1881 census giving two possibilities. One of them was obviously my great
grandfather; James Herbert and his wife Mary Ann with their children Edwin,
Emma and Maria (my grand mother) were living in Leicester. There was
another surprise for me; James, Mary Ann and Edwin were all born in
Worcestershire.
I felt I had made some progress. Mary Ann had died in Leicester but how did
I go about finding her? Their final child, Caroline, had been born in 1895 so
I searched the GRO deaths index from there and found her, I thought, in 1903
but the certificate I ordered from Southport showed that this Mary Ann
Herbert was not my great grandmother.
When the 1901 census finally came on-line the first person I looked for was
Mary Ann Herbert but she was not to be found so I tried for James and found
him living with his new wife Mary Elizabeth and her family. Her children
gave me her previous married name - Edlin and her father, a widower, was
living with them, gave me her maiden name - Austin.
So when did Mary Ann die? I looked again at my family tree, the name of her
supposed final daughter, Caroline, did not seem to fit with the names of her
other children: Edwin, Emma, Maria and Albert. Suppose Caroline was
James and Mary Elizabeth’s daughter, what then? I searched the death index
back towards Albert’s birth and found a Mary Ann Herbert in the June
quarter of 1888 but I was not so keen to dash off a cheque to Southport this
time. One of the society’s librarians suggested I checked the burial register
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for the Welford Road Cemetery, commenting that in the 19th century most of
Leicester seems to have been buried there. I soon found her, she was buried
on 30 April 1888 and it gave a reference number. The librarian then
suggested I contacted the friends of the cemetery and a telephone call
resulted in an e-mail informing me that she had been buried at 3pm (!) in an
common grave with space for four, there was no right to erect a headstone,
but most importantly it gave her address at the time of death. Great Granddad
Herbert was notorious for his frequent moving house but I thought the death
of his wife might have slowed him down, at least temporarily, so I checked
the address in the 1891 census and there he was, condition: widower, all his
children were there so I knew I had found the right person.
The 1901 census gave James’s place of birth as Aberby (sic) Worcestershire.
My road atlas was not much help and the Worcester Records Office
confirmed that there was no such place but said that there was an Abberley.
That sounded near enough for the census, so my wife and I set off for a few
days in Worcestershire.
I spent three days in the records office, finding James immediately but
disappointingly there was no sign of Mary Ann. James’s grandfather was not
born in the county but was resident in Abberley in 1841. In 1851 James’s
father, also called James, an agricultural labourer, was married and was living
in Abberley with his wife and three children, James junior, the youngest was
1 year old. By 1861 there were nine children in the family and parish records
showed that it grew to 13 before the family left Abberley. I was unable to
find either James in 1871, I suspected my great grandfather James had moved
to Worcester as his first child Edwin was born there in the November.
I had failed to find any trace of Mary Ann but was determined to find her
marriage. After a frustrating day searching the marriage registers of the 21
churches lodged at the record office I decided to consult the GRO index and
found they had married in Bromsgrove. I could have screamed, a whole day
wasted! I had noticed the Bromsgrove parish records were available so I soon
found what had eluded all day. James Herbert had married Mary Ann
Chetwyn on 26 September 1869, His occupation was given as a cordwainer
(shoemaker) and his father a stone cutter. Mary Ann was a machinist and her
father, Edwin Stephen Chetwyn, a glover. Both the bride and groom were
resident in Bromsgrove at the time of their marriage but I was unable to find
any Herberts or Chetwyns in Bromsgrove in the1871 census.
The 1881 census index listed Edwin Stephen as a Chelsea Pensioner. He and
his wife were living in Worcester but had been born in Nottinghamshire in
1820, which is where I now live. I am going around in circles!
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I returned home quite happy with my discoveries, I had found most of what I
wanted, we had stayed in Abberley in a self catering cottage that had once
been part of the Abberley Hall dog kennels. The thought that both James and
his father who had worked as agricultural labourers would have known the
building in its original guise appealed to me greatly. I had visited the church
where my great grandfather had been baptised and walked the hills where he
would have played as a boy. On the way home we visited the Church of St
John the Baptist Bromsgrove where James and Mary Ann had married 133
years earlier.
Before going to Abberley I had ordered a copy of Mary Ann’s death
certificate. It arrived soon after our return home. She had died in the Leicester
Infirmary, age 38, on 26 April 1888 of Phthisis Exhaustion. It took a while to
find a definition of Phthisis but eventually an ancient copy of Odhams
Universal Home Doctor informed me that “Any disease in which there is
much wasting away of the body, especially such as tuberculosis, is known as
phthisis.” So Mary Ann had died of TB but I had found her - rest in peace
great grandma.
Dick Harrison
[email protected]
Do you have a WARRY in your family tree?
Does anyone in the Family History Society have a Warry in
their family tree? If so, you are invited to get in touch with me, to share
information.
I am currently writing a book about the Warry Family (and probable variants)
and would like to hear from anyone with a Warry in their Family Tree
(especially any pre 1800).
My address is email [email protected]
Michael Warry, 93 Bells Pocket Road, Strathpine, Queensland 4500,
Australia
Editor: Michael has sent me a great deal of information about the name – I
will pass it on to anyone interested.
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Annual General Meeting & Open Day 2004
The AGM and Open Day last year was a great success when we had over 150
members attending the AGM, and many more visiting us throughout the day.
The Executive Committee have organised a similar day for members and
friends of the Society for the AGM for 2004, to be held at The Sixth Form
Centre of the Beauchamp Community College, Ridgeway, Oadby, Leicester.
The venue is easy to find, just off the A6 Oadby bypass, behind Sainsbury's
Superstore. (Turn off the A6 at the traffic lights into Ash Tree Road)
The 2004 Annual General Meeting And Family History Open Day Will
Take Place On
Sunday 14th March 2004
The Venue Will Be Open From 10.00 am to 3.30 pm
The Annual General Meeting will start at 11.00 am
After the business of the AGM, there will be an
"Open Day" with bookstalls, computer
demonstrations, and experts on hand to discuss
your family history research problems.
There will be two well-known speakers on the day, and we have arranged
that the presentations will take place in a side room to avoid excessive noise
from the chatter around the stalls and demonstrations.

At 12.00 noon Michael Gandy will
give a talk entitled
“Seeing It Through Their Eyes”
about using local and social history books for
family history

At 2pm Richard Ratcliffe will present
“A Comedy Of Errors”
a talk for beginners, highlighting the errors
you can make in your research
Full details will be available in the LRFHS Library and the Group Meetings
and on the internet, with a map and directions, at: http://www.lrfhs.org.uk/agm
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Benefactors of the Poor –
St Mary's Church, Melton Mowbray
In the ringing chamber in St Mary's Church tower, Melton Mowbray's there
are several large boards listing 'Benefactors of the Poor'. These start around
1664 and continue up to 1882. Since these boards are not normally visible
(unless you happen to be a bell-ringer!) I thought it worth recording them in
case they were of interest. Some of the charities mentioned still exist Hudson's and Storer's were amalgamated and still administer the almshouses
opposite the church.
Thomas Hartopp Esq. of Frisby, by will dated 31/3/1664, 20/- yearly
Mr William Hickson by will dated 28/9/1612, 20/- yearly.
Robert Hudson Esq. by will 1638, the hospital for 6 poor men single and
unmarried - 13/- pa. then quarterly and 3/- at Midsummer to buy coals and
16/8d for a supper and 10/- for one of the men to read prayers on Wed and
Friday. 20/- to the vicar for a sermon on Plow Tuesday and 20/- for
refreshment after the sermon for the churchwardens and overseers of the
poor. and 12d in bread to be given to the poor every Sabbath day.
James Hickson, citizen and brewer of London gave by will 16/2/1686 £50 to
the churchwardens of this town to be put out to interest, to be given to the
poor on St Thomas day. yearly.
Dame Abigail Smith of Sysonby by will dated 17/3/1686, a close in Sysonby
for the poor for putting out poor children to apprenticeships.
Sir Richard Rayne AD 1732
Roger Waite, Gent.
Mrs Mary Greene
Henry Storer of Frisby
Mrs Mary Reeve AD1752
Mrs Anne Reeves 2/2/1737
Joseph Noble by will 20/11/1791
Mrs Elizabeth Harby, 20/3/1740
Rev. Samuel George Noble of
John Bowne died 10/12/1756
Frolesworth
Anthony Wadd died 28/3/1758?
John Johnson of Partney Lincs
Mrs Ann Hewett by will 4/3/1760
John Beasley of Sapperton Lincs
Mrs Mary Briggs
Seth Hose, Gent, 26/11/1829
Churchwardens:
Thomas Clarke, Aug. 1851
Richard Smith, John Terrewest 1761
Lady Elizabeth Norman, Oct. 1853
Wm Latham, 1872
Mrs Ann Day, late of Belgrave,
Robert Smith, 1879
Dec 1850
Joseph Bishop 11/11/1880
John Day, late of Wymondham,
Miss Jane Lightfoot, 1882
Dec 1855
EHM Clarke 1882
I list only the names, not all the details of every charitable bequest as my time
ran out! Anyone interested could follow this up through the church staff, (or
take up bell-ringing of course).
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Many churches have similar boards, varying in quantity and details so it
could worth looking into what is in your ancestors parish church, just in case
they are mentioned. Many towers with bells also have 'peal boards' listing
those ringers who undertook various peals, quarter peals etc to mark special
occasions. These often show a family connection over several decades and of
course give some indication who fellow ringers and friends were. Never
assume however that someone on the boards was a devout churchgoer, it was
not necessarily so, bell ringers were probably more on a par with the gallery
band of Thomas Hardy's writings and there are often boards declaring rules
for conduct in the tower, including not being drunk! I've often thought, as a
bell-ringing widow I should start recording all these boards etc. for family
history purposes - so watch this space.
Linda Brockway
[email protected]
Project at Barrow On Soar - by Vincent Thompson
Our small association i.e. the "Barrow Family History Group" have spent the
last two years fully transcribing the Holy Trinity Parish Barrow and St Mary's
Parish Walton church registers to a computer database in Microsoft Excel
format. Since this project was initiated, by the parish Vicar, we have access
to the original parish registers and have not had to work from micro fiche
copies. The group comprises of seven people, and four are LRFHS members.
We have now completed Barrow burials from 1728 to 1933, Barrow baptisms
from 1728 to 1989, Barrow marriages from 1728 to 1982, Walton burials
from 1813 to 1985, Walton baptisms from 1813 to 1920 and Walton
marriages from 1838 to 1989. We still have a number of registers for both
parishes to tackle since records going back to 1563 and 1566 respectively are
available.
We have also transcribed the Barrow Cemetery records from 1895 to 1960.
We have taken care to ensure that each transcription is carefully checked
against the original register by someone other than the person who carried out
the transcription, so we are confident that the resulting database is as accurate
as we can get it. In time we plan to incorporate banns of marriages and nonconformist records, indeed a small start in this direction has already been
made. Before commencing this exercise we gained advice from Mick Rawle
and he gave us a presentation and advised us on methods and procedures etc.
We do note, however, this work has never been published in the Society's
journal. It may be of interest to anyone searching for ancestors in this area,
that this comprehensive database is now available and that we are prepared to
carry out searches for anyone.
We can be contacted by e-mail at [email protected]
or
[email protected]
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Two Great Grandfathers - Two Convicts.
by Helen M Booth
I have been researching my Stepmother's Cook family for about four years.
Alice's mother was Elizabeth COOK and was born in Sep. 1879 at Port
Sorell, Tasmania. Elizabeth's parents were William Thomas Cook born 22nd
Feb.1858 Launceston, Tas. and Emma Martin the daughter of John Martin a
convict. William's parents were Thomas Cook and Sarah Ann Norman.
Most of the family knew that John Martin was a convict who was born in
Newick, Sussex in 1823. Someone in this family had researched this family
back to 1794. However no one knew anything about the origins of the COOK
family.
My first question to known family members 'Was Thomas Cook a convict'?
All answers were 'no'. I joined the Tasmanian F.H.S. and inserted a query in
their magazine about Thomas Cook. I was very lucky with the number of
phone calls and letters from fellow members in Tasmania. Some were distant
relations and others were willing to help.
My first break through was the marriage application for Thomas and when I
asked the lady who found it where she had seen it the reply was '1n the
convicts records'. Thomas had applied to marry Sarah Ann Norman on the
6th of February 1855 and they were married on the 5th of April 1855. Sarah
Ann Norman was listed as free and had been born in Tasmania in 1837.
I was now able to obtain Thomas's Convicts records and learnt that he was
tried at Oakham Assizes on the 2nd of Aug. 1847 for Highway Robbery. I
then obtained a copy of the trial from the Lincoln Rutland & Stamford
Mercury (newspaper) dated Friday August the 6th 1847. He was sentenced
to 14 years transportation and finally arrived in Van Dieman's Land on the
31st Jul 1852 on the Prestongee Bomanjee.
At the time of his trial Thomas's mother Sarah Lewin was also implicated as
she had pawned the watch and given her son the money. Thomas admitted
that his mother knew nothing of the watch being stolen and she was
exonerated.
I have been unable to find Thomas's birth or Baptism which was recorded in
his son William's diary as the 22nd of Oct 1822 which fits his age at the trial.
The diary also lists Thomas's parents as Thomas and Elizabeth. The only
thing consistent through all his papers etc was that his occupation was that of
a brickmaker.
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Has anyone seen Thomas's birth or baptism or a marriage for a Thomas Cook
to an Elizabeth or Sarah pre 1822?
Where would Thomas have spent the 5 years before he was transported? (He
sailed form Plymouth)
Thomas had siblings Robert, William, Mary and Janet and at least one other.
Any sighting of any of these?
Helen M. Booth 2/44 Howe Street, Howick 1705, Auckland, New Zealand
FFHS 2004 Annual General Meeting and
Half-Yearly General Meeting
2004 is our thirtieth anniversary year. And we are very pleased to be able to
give an open invitation to all our member societies, and their individual
members, to attend a very special AGM on 17 April in Coventry. This full
day event will include talks by two guest speakers: David Prior is Assistant
Clerk of the Records, House of Lords Record Office (The Parliamentary
Archives), and will talk about the work of the Parliamentary Archives and
provide more information about the sources held there; Paul Seaward is
Director of the History of Parliament, and will provide an introduction to the
work of the History of Parliament, and its relevance to family historians.
The House of Lords Record Office (The Parliamentary Archives) holds the
archives of both Houses of Parliament from 1497 to the present day, although
most of the records of the House of Commons were burnt in the fire of 1834,
which destroyed the old Palace of Westminster. The Office makes these
records available to the public through its search room and also answers
enquiries about the records and history of Parliament. Records held of
particular interest to family historians include amongst much else: various
Acts of Parliament, the Protestation Returns, Private Bill evidences and
deposited plans. For more information about the Parliamentary Archives
visit their website, www.parliament.uk (Parliamentary publications and
archives).
The History of Parliament is a research project, which is building up a
comprehensive account of the working of parliamentary politics in England,
then Britain, from their origins in the thirteenth century. A large part of its
work consists of biographical accounts of all who sat in both the House of
Commons and the House of Lords over that period. Its publications already
include well over 17,000 biographies, full of evidence about their subjects'
families and private lives, as well as their political careers; and much more
work is in progress. For more information on the History of Parliament visit
www.histparl.ac.uk.
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The event is being held at the Methodist Central Hall, Warwick Lane,
Coventry. It will begin at 10.00am with refreshments, followed at 10.15am
by an introduction to the days programme by the FFHS Chairman Alec
Tritton. David Prior and Paul Seward talks will commence 10.30 am, with
lunch from 12.30 to 2pm. In the afternoon, the formal part of the days
activities will take place with the Annual General Meeting, followed by the
half-yearly General Meeting.
The event is open to any interested family historian, not just to society
representatives attending the AGM and GM. There is no charge for attending
the talks and it is hoped that many members of local societies, and those
further a field too, will be able to attend. So please let your membership
know about this day, as well as all your committee members.
For more details please contact Maggie Loughran,
FFHS Administrator, PO Box 2425, Coventry, CV5 6YX;
tel: 07041 492032;
email: [email protected] or visit www.ffhs.org.uk
“We have discussed kings and statesmen and wars, and when desirous to
show our appreciation of 'progress' — institutions, inventions and 'reforms'.
But how much do we know of the real political life of the country, even about
that body which before the eyes of the nation has for centuries shaped its
joint existence?” — Sir Lewis Namier
Family
History
Services
Genealogical Research in the East Midlands
Derby, Nottingham, Lincoln, Leicester, Rutland, Northants & Huntingdon
All types of Records researched
Documents photocopied or photographed
Advice sessions, Talks to groups
Mick Rawle 28 Abingdon Rd, Melton Mowbray, Leics, LE13 0SB
Tel : 01664 - 854691
Email : [email protected]
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mick.rawle/index.html
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History of William Gee 1828-1909
by B H Hills
William Gee was born in 1828 in the little town of Birstall, in Leicestershire,
England, to William Smith and Mary Gee. He had an older sister, Rose, and
a younger brother, Charles, who died at the age of
11 from falling out of a buggy.
When William was twenty, he married Ann
Smith, and they lived in the city of Leicester.
They had seven children there, but four died as
babies, leaving William Jr., James Robert and
Elizabeth Ellen. William worked hard to support
his family, as a chimney sweep, and making
shoes in a large factory. In 1863, a woman named
Mary Ann Walsom, who worked at the shoe
factory, came to live with them. She also worked
as a seamstress, making men's suits.
After Mary Ann came to live with the Gee family,
she caught smallpox, and so did Elizabeth Ellen,
who was only five years old. It damaged the little
girl's eyes, and she was never again able to see very
well.
William Gee
When the Mormon missionaries came to preach,
William, Ann, Mary Ann and William jr. were all
baptized. In 1864 they had saved enough money to
make the trip to Utah, and they set sail from
Liverpool on a ship named the General McClellan.
During the month-long voyage across the Atlantic
Ocean, Ann gave birth to a baby girl, whom they
named Jennie McClellan Gee, after the ship.
They landed in New York, and made their way
Mary Ann Walsom
across the country to Wyoming, where they
joined a wagon train for the rest of the journey. Ann was very sick most of
the way.
On their third day travelling, the cattle stampeded, and when they'd been
rounded up, Elizabeth Ellen was missing. They searched for several hours
before finding her hiding in the corner of a wagon.
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The Indians had been attacking some of the wagon trains, so William's
company joined with another for protection. They passed a number of places
where the men had been buried who'd been killed by the Indians.
William and his family arrived in Salt Lake just in time for General
Conference in October of 1864. Pres. Young sent them to live in the new
settlement of Spanish Fork. In 1866 William married Mary Ann as his second
wife. Ann had a boy while they lived in Spanish Fork, and Mary Ann had
two boys; the first died at the age of eight months, and was one of the first
people buried in the Spanish
Fork Cemetery.
In 1869, William moved his
two families to Fayette, in
Sanpete County, where Ann
had her tenth child. Mary Ann
had the last six of her eight
children there. Her first child
born in Fayette, in 1871, was
my grandfather, James Arthur
Gee.
The Gee Home in Fayette
William Gee lived with his two
families in Fayette1 until his death in 1909. Mary Ann joined him in 1912.
William lies buried in the Fayette Cemetery with his two wives, and his son,
James Arthur.
B H Hills, 38 Woodland Rise West, Sheringham, Norfolk NR26 8PF
Footnote: John Tom Walsom, son of John Walsom and his second wife, Ann (Beck) was
born on 21 Sept 1859 in Radford, Nottingham and died in May 1923 in
Leicester.
John Walsom was born in 1811 in Yardley Hastings and his first marriage
was to Sarah Christian. Of this marriage a daughter Mary ANN Walsom was
born on 25th May 1838 in Birstall. She later married William Gee and they
became members of the Mormon Church and they later sailed from Liverpool
to make a new life for themselves in Utah.
I am researching the Walsom tree to establish John's ancestry but if any
Society member is researching either the Walsom and / or Gee families, I will
be only too pleased to share what details I have.
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Putting Flesh On The Bones
by Dick Payne
My wife and I both agree that there is more to tracing our 'Family History'
than collecting vast amounts of dates and places from Church Registers, the
I.G.I., or the Internet - though you certainly do need all this information as
you can't build a 'Family Tree' without it! What we are also trying to do is
compile information about the areas where our ancestors were born and lived.
This means visiting each area; taking photographs of churches, gravestones,
schools, houses and locality where possible, and researching the history of
the places where they were born, lived and died. We have two A4 lever arch
files on the Suffolk villages where some of Val's ancestors came from, whilst
at present we are working on the 'family' towns and villages of Warwickshire
and Leicestershire associated with ancestors on both sides. Apart from this
we have had enjoyable visits to Buckinghamshire, Staffordshire, Edinburgh,
and last but not least East Germany!
There are other aspects of our ancestors' lives that we are investigating - for
instance how they lived; their occupations; movement from one
county/country to another; their notoriety, etc., all of which give an extra
dimension to our researches. Most families have Ag. Labs in their ancestry
and we are no exception. Just north of us near Lincoln there is a country life
museum, which gives an insight into their lives. Also we have found some
Victorian ancestors on a Warwickshire Census living in a Workhouse, and at
Southwell just a few miles from where we now live, the National Trust has
recently opened an Old Workhouse Museum which replicates the conditions
that some of our more unfortunate ancestors were subjected to! Very
emotional and thought provoking!
Was your ancestor a Civic Dignitary - a Mayor perhaps? Newark's Georgian
Town Hall is open to the public and one can dress up in the Mayor's robes
and have your photograph taken on the Mayor's chair. (There is also a
miniature version of the robes for children, which they can try on!!)
Were your Ancestors in the Forces? There are various military Museums
around the country as well as folk Museums - find out what life was like in
those days!! Make notes, and take photographs!
Recently we took my Australian cousin to the families' home village in
Warwickshire where we had a drink in the old pub - probably where our
ancestors drank many years ago. We visited the village church where they
worshipped and found two gravestones in the churchyard. My cousin was
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very excited as she had written the village name so many times and now she
was actually there, in the place the family had been for 250 years.
It is also a good idea to read books about the local area (you never know what
you might discover) and local newspapers. A cousin of my wife sent her an
article from a Warwickshire newspaper of the early 1900's detailing the tragic
death of her mother's uncle who was killed by a load of timber falling off a
lorry onto him whilst he was riding a bicycle behind it! So always check in
the local studies library for your ancestors area.
When visiting the Ancestral area take a camera - photograph the church,
houses, shops, village greens, the local pub etc., but do it now! Val went to
Burton on Trent where her father was born. She knew the street, but when
she got there the houses were all new! On enquiring about them the local
vicar told her they had been knocked down the year before and the new ones
built! Another piece of history gone forever!
Whilst you are there ask the locals if there are any local stories about events
or area history, who were the old local characters - they could be your
ancestors. Some village churches still have the old plan of the Pew seating.
Was your ancestor's name on this or were they like ours, the peasants who sat
at the back? People today are very interested in the places where they live, so
there is a good possibility that a history has been written - at least of the
church and village.
To help YOUR descendants, take photographs of your house - especially if it
is not new; and your church and the local area. Write about yourself and your
family and make up a family file for the future. So! - get your camera and a
notebook, and to use a well known phrase - DO IT NOW!
Dick Payne, 41 Southend Avenue, Newark, Nottinghamshire NG24 4BG
Parish Register Tit-Bits
Found in Oakham Burials:
The Fiddler of Stamford was buried here the 9th Sept 1647
Found in Preston, Rutland burials:
John Marrot that was killed by Preston Windmill was buried here July 14th
1674
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Looking for William
By Mrs A Merritt
I had decided it was time to look at my father's family and the assistant at the
registrar's office was huffing and puffing over my application for a birth
certificate - she had the entry she thought I was looking for but it was not
quite what I sought. Well, I decided to take what was on offer and that was
how I found out my grandfather was illegitimate. William Charles Russell
Wykes was born in 1862 to a 15-years old girl (the age of consent was 12).
He was apprenticed at fourteen to a Coventry watchmaker, his grandfather
being named as his guardian and from that and the census it was clear he was
brought up by his grandparents.
What happened to his mother? Johanna (or Hannah), in 1865, married Henry
Cooper, a shoemaker aged twenty. On 17th June 1868 their three children
were baptised at Holy Trinity Church, Coventry, Elizabeth born June quarter
1866 and twins George and Henry born 19th May 1868. I have been unable
to find any further trace of Johanna and her family.
The local art gallery and museum put on a "Coventry Kids" exhibition and in
due course my family tree and photographs appeared thereat. My
grandfather's Oath of a Freeman dated 1883 was part of the display. I was
contacted by a Coventry resident who had been to the exhibition and thought
we were possibly related. She had done a lot of work on a Wykes line but I
could not recognise any of the people in her photographs or make a
connection. About six months later, however, she rang to say she had found
that her ancestor, Thomas Wykes, was brother to Johanna so, since then,
Beverley and I have pooled our information.
She had a copy of a comprehensive pedigree of a family in Sibson from about
1700 prepared by the Rev. Alan Best and also a copy of the will of William
Wykes, the patriarch on the tree. There is a note under the fifth son's name
that he was probably unmarried but Daniel had married and there were
descendants including Beverley and me. He had crossed the county boundary
to live in Corley, Warwickshire.
By this time I had decided I ought to supplement Beverley's research by
seeking help in tracing William's birth and, hopefully, his forebears. After
asking around and consulting an historian I wrote to the selected advertiser,
making it quite clear that a considerable amount of work had been done but it
was thought the assistance of an expert in family history was needed.
William had been born about 1707 and one doesn't get that far back very
easily.
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The answer I received said the writer thought from the information provided
help could be given and asked for £15, which I paid. For my money the
"expert' consulted the IGI, the source of information on which we start
beginners: I had been using it for years and it contains some of the work I
have done in transcribing parish registers. I had not thought it necessary to
enquire what records would be consulted. I was asked if I had chosen 1707 as
a likely date for William's birth because his wife was born in 1708 to which
my reply was that I had worked out the probable date from knowing how old
he was when he died.
I did then what I should have done in the first place - I joined the
Leicestershire & Rutland FHS and within a few days of my interests
appearing in the journal I received information from a member. There was
William baptised/born 26th June 1709. He married Frances Nutt in 1731 at
Sheepy Magna and in 1739 with four children they moved to Sibson, where
five sons were born. He was a husbandman until his death in 1769 when there
were legacies to eight of his nine children, the ninth was left a shilling. His
wife had predeceased him. Daniel married Hannah Proof at Corley in
November 1769.As a shoemaker, carrier and supplier we find his name many
times in the parish records in connection with his dealings with the overseers
of the poor. There were eight children;
Hannah died in 1813 and Daniel in 1834 but no wills have been found. His
son, Thomas, moved to Coventry about 1809, his older brother, William
being already resident in Foleshill, later a part of Coventry. Thomas is my
ancestor.
There are still some of William's descendants farming in Leicestershire - I
went door-knocking and found one!
Mrs A Merritt, 65 Styvechale Avenue, Coventry CV5 6DW
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Forthcoming Events
LRFHS Trips in 2004
In response to all the messages, ideas and comments which we received
regarding running trips which depart later and stay later, both to Kew and the
Family Records Centre, and also Saturday trips, I am pleased to announce
that after discussions with Hilda and Greg, we have arranged trips for 2004,
to cater for these needs.
*One trip will also go from Loughborough this year.

Saturday February 14th
-
Kew.
Leaves Humberstone Gate 6.30am Holiday Inn 6.45am
Leaves Kew at 5.30pm.
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Thursday March 11th
Tuesday April 13th
Saturday June 12th
-
FRC - usual times
FRC - usual times
FRC
*Leaves Loughborough Granby St, 6.20 am, picks up
**Holiday Inn Leicester 6.45 am. Leaves FRC 5.30pm
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
Wednesday June 16th
Tuesday August 3rd
-
Kew - usual times
FRC
Leaves Humberstone Gate 7.45am ** Holiday Inn 8am
Leaves FRC at 7pm.

September 23rd
-
Kew
Leaves Humberstone Gate 7.45am** Holiday Inn 8am
Leaves Kew at 7pm.

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Key
Wednesday October 27th
Thursday November 25th
-
FRC - usual times
FRC - usual times.
See booking forms
FRC = Family Record Centre, London
in centre pages
Kew = National Archives at Kew
**Holiday Inn refers to the Hotel on the Narborough Road (formerly
The Post House)
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Goddard Association of Europe.
Annual General Meeting - Sunday 16th May 2004
at The Pear Tree Inn, Purton, near Swindon, Wilts.
Open to anyone with Goddards in their family.
Further details from: - John C. Goddard, 2 Lowergate Road, Accrington,
Lancs BB5 6LN
www.goddard-association.co.uk
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Glenister Worldwide Gathering 2003
The first worldwide gathering of the extended Glenister family attracted 160
members of the family to High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire on 28 June
2003. The day long gathering included a programme of talks, displays and
social events to allow the attendees to find out more about the family.
For many of those attending - including 24 from the USA and 16 from
Australia - this was their first meeting with distant cousins, or with people
already well known from long term correspondence. Among those present
were John Glenister a retired accountant from Chelmsford, Essex, in his
eightieth year, and Benjamin Glenister, just 14 days old, the son of Gordon
and Jessica Glenister of Fen Drayton, Cambridgeshire.
Organisers Andy Glenister and Francis Glenister commented that everyone
attending seemed to enjoy themselves and that requests had been received
both to repeat the event in future years and to run similar events overseas.
The question remains as to when and where
For further details of the gathering, and the Glenister One Name Study
contact
Andy Glenister, Borrowdale, Barton Stacey, Winchester, Hamps S02 1
3RH, phone: 01962 761444,
visit the web site www.genister.org
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Transport Archive Exhibition
The Record Office is holding a Transport Archive Exhibition, which will run
from 5 April to 30 April at the Record Office. It is about the website,
describing Three Centuries of Transport, which has been created jointly by
three local authorities and funded by the New Opportunities Fund. Family
historians whose ancestors helped to create our railway network, our canal
system and our aviation industry will find it fascinating as will anyone with
an interest in railways, canals or aeroplanes. For people who cannot visit the
exhibition but would like to visit the website, there are four ways of
accessing it:
www.transportarchive.org.uk
is a portal site with links to the three
separate parts.
www.railwayarchive.org.uk
records the building of the Great Central
Railway,
www.canalarchive.org.uk
explores mainly the Bridgewater Canal
and the Manchester Ship Canal
www.aviationarchive.org.uk
mainly charts the development of
aviation at Filton and Patchway in South Gloucestershire from 1910 to the
present.
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Leicestershire & Rutland
FHS Research Centre and Library
by Barbara Harrison
Recent new acquisitions include: CD’s
Norfolk 1861 census
Gloucestershire Marriage Index 1800-1837
Market Bosworth 1861 & 1891 censuses
British Vital Records version 2 (17 CDs)
Census Index 1861/1891 Market Bosworth
Census E. Ayrshire 1851, 1861 (2 CDs)
Census, Abbey Parish, Renfrewshire 1841
Banbury (Oxford) PR Transcripts (3 CDs)
Books
PO London Directory 1900
Joseph Flude 1825-1892, by A J Flude
Phillimore - New Edition
Catholic Confirmations in the Midlands 1768-1811
We are indebted to M. Hextall, J.A.Holt, D. Ross and Mr Cherry who
donated many of the following items.
Raithby Lawrence 1876-1976 (Leicester Printing Firm)
Warwick Quarter Sessions 1674-1682
Around Foxton by S. Dallaston
Tracing Your Ancestors by D.M.Field
Writing & Publishing Your Family History by J.Titford
Victorian Wigston by B. Elliott
Market Harborough as I Remember It by J.Burrows
Town Gates & Bridges of Medieval Leicester by J.Wilshire
Leicestershire Yeoman Families & Their Pedigrees by W.G.Hoskins
Talking About Leicestershire by M.Forsyth
Inns & Taverns of Leicester by C.Pyrah
Inns of Leicestershire by E.Smith
Register of Parkhurst Convicted Apprenticed in W. Australia 1842-51
Journey From Carley Street by M.Hextall
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Two Leicestershire Surnames
by David Robinson
On joining LRFHS about three years ago, I expressed an interest, in
particular, in the names GUMLEY and POULTNEY in Leicester before
1850. We had already found my wife Christine’s great grandparents, George
Gumley and Catherine Poultney in the 1851 Census, each being the youngest
child of a large family. The response to our “Members Interests” was
remarkable. We had two replies for each name, and each correspondent was
descended from one of those two 1851 families. On the Gumley side, each
bore the surname and, to add to the coincidence, we learnt that we were in
fact the sixth party interested in, and descended from, that family! Our
distant GUMLEY relatives had traced the family back as far as records
allowed and kindly provided us with all their information. All round, how
fortunate can you get?
The more family history I do, the more convinced I become that there must
be some genetic trait that enables certain families to persist through
succeeding generations and/or generates in their descendants an interest in
their forebears. On my side, there are four distant cousins researching the
same Wright family in North Yorkshire in the late 1700s. There must be
more to it than chance. Three aspects seem to me to be fairly certain, namely,
that large families gave rise to large families, and secondly, in circumstances
where, as was the case with these two surnames in the 1800s, one third of the
children died in infancy and a further third did not reach adulthood, that
unless our ancestors had large families, there was little chance statistically of
the surname being carried down to following generations. Thirdly, having
survived to produce their large families, the parents, in general, lived to a ripe
old age. I would very much like to know whether any work has been done on
these subjects and if so, where it might be found.
Anyway, returning to our families: On the Poultney side, a distant cousin in
the United States, with excellent, local professional help over here, had made
a lot of useful progress, particularly back to the large family of a William
Potne, (and variants of the name, to be found in the IGI under Putney), in
Higham-on-the-Hill, Leicestershire, in the late 1700s. That family, who
appear to have moved to Hinckley, and then into Leicester in the early 1800s,
were Framework Knitters. Records of Poultney baptisms in the city in those
times seem to have been few and far between, so working with the other
interested party, Mrs Jackie Braim, living in West Yorkshire, we used other
sources, namely, her marriage records of St Margaret’s and her Leicester
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burial records, (both on the Society’s CD-ROMs), together with all marriages
registered in Leicester in the GRO Index and, of course, the 1851 and 1881
Census records. The more information I was sent, the more I became hooked,
until the Poultneys seemed like mine! I simply put it all together.
Of William Potne’s five sons, three, Richard, Charles and George, produced
families in Hinckley or Leicester in those early 1800s. Charles’ line died out
and George’s has not been successfully traced - they probably moved away.
Richard married Mary Marston at St Mary’s, Hinckley in 1799, but it is
uncertain how many children they had. Their son William married Mary
Cavender or Cavalin, also in Hinckley, in 1822. It is from this family that our
fellow researchers are descended, Christine’s great grandmother, Catherine
being the 10th child, born in 1847. There were only two sons who survived
and our United States relative, born with the Poultney surname, is descended
from the eldest son William, whose son George emigrated in 1888.
From all the above records it has been possible to account for almost all the
adult burials and marriages – 34 of the latter - in Leicester through the 1800s
and so reconstruct Poultney families. These families have been plotted out to
a time scale on a set of diagrams, a copy of which is now in the Society’s
Library, along with copies of the further charts referred to below.
Parallel with the Leicester research, I extracted from the IGI, all Poultney
events in the whole of Leicestershire and north Warwickshire (down to
Coventry), before 1800 by Parish and half century, to get a picture of where
the name was to be found and how it migrated from the villages to the cities.
The name occurred in the early days in parishes in the two counties strung
along either side of Watling Street, now the A5, but only from Hinckley
north-westwards. The IGI details were then plotted, again to a time scale,
parish by adjacent parish, and any obvious family connections tied together.
Of 34 families, (those with two or more children), only eight had recorded
marriages, and of those eight marriages, there were baptisms for only three
fathers. In the main, this indicates how fragmented is the little information
that has survived. If typical, this analysis shows that the chance of tracing a
family back in the 17th and 18th centuries is not good.
In Leicester, there was one significant burial record at St Margaret’s, the
church that our Poultneys used, namely that of a William Poultney buried in
1814, aged 77 and therefore born about 1737. He could have been the
William Potne of Higham-on-the-Hill and is most likely to have come from
the large family of a Thomas Poultney and Mary (Rush) in nearby
Bulkington. They had a son William baptised in 1735. Thomas and Mary had
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married in 1730, the year after Thomas’s first wife Elizabeth (Webster) had
died. Thomas was probably born in 1704, son of William and his second wife
in Exhall (by Coventry). This William may well have been the son of
Thomas Poultnee and his first wife Elizabeth and born in Bedworth in 1667.
A widow POLTNOY was buried there in 1679. By chance, this seems to be
one of the very few Poultney lines that can be traced back in the area, but we
have found no records of settlements as they moved from parish to parish.
Although all somewhat speculative, there is a note in pencil in the margin of
the record of the William Potne marriage with Mary Heams in 1767 in
Higham-on-the-Hill, which reads “Thomas, son of.” This further ties in with
the Bulkington family. All this was interesting, but what was to follow, I
found more so.
Out of curiosity, I checked on the origin of the name Poultney in my Penguin
Dictionary of Surnames. It had the following entry: “Pountney L [Locality]
“island of (an AS [Anglo-Saxon] called) ?Pulta.” OE [Old English], place
(Poultney) in Leicestershire.” I scoured the Ordnance Survey maps until I
found a grange and two farms of that name north of the road between
Lutterworth and Husbands Bosworth. But I was sceptical, because the area in
no way looked like an island, so perhaps the place was named from the
surname, which had come from elsewhere. And how had the –L- become an
–N-? “A Dictionary of Surnames” by Patrick Hanks and Flavia Hodges
explains: Pountney: English: habitation name from a place in Leics. now
known as Poultney, but recorded in the Doomsday Book as Pontenei. The
Doomsday form shows the common Norman substitution of –n- for OE –l-.
The place name derives from the gen. case of the OE personal name Pulta +
OE Eg, island. Vars. Poul(t)ney, Pulteney.” And from a Glossary of English
Place-Name Elements: eg, OE island, land partly surrounded by water, dry
ground in marsh, well-watered land, promontory. – “Dictionary of English
Place-Names”, by A.D.Mills. So Poultney and Pountney are genuine
Leicestershire names and the locality wasn’t an island after all.
But what could I find out about the place? The County Record Office referred
me to “The History and Antiquities of the County of Leicestershire” by John
Nichols in four large, two-part volumes, (written 1795-1811). There were
pages of information.“In the parish of Misterton there was formerly a village
called in old deeds Poutenei and Pultonheith, which had a chapel within it,
but has long since been totally depopulated, not a single house remaining.”
And “This place gave afterwards name to the ancient family of Poultney….”
It seems that, the area was held by Adam de Napton in 1270, whose
granddaughter, Maud married Adam Neale de Clipston of Weston in Sussex,
who took the Poultney name. Their son, Sir John Poulteney, buried in St
Paul’s in 1349, was five times Lord Mayor of London. The name and title
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then passed to a Robert Oweine, husband of Sir John’s sister, Elen and so
through a number of generations of Knights and Sheriffs to a John Poultney
who died without issue in Leicester in 1637. From there, the title was
inherited by his fourth (?) cousin, Sir William Pulteney, who was knighted in
1660, Earl of Bath. This William’s great grandson, William, commonly
called Lord Viscount Pulteney, was the last of the line, although the title did
not become extinct until 1808. The above information comes from two
extensive pedigrees on pages 319 and 320 in volume IV. The unique bridge
over the river Avon in Bath, still carries the Pulteney name, and in Vermont,
USA, there is a town called Poultney.
So it looks as if today’s Poultneys are unlikely to be descended from those
Poultneys of Poultney, but they do nonetheless have that illustrious surname.
I was interested to know how the name spread out from the locality, so from
the IGI, I counted the number of “frames” of the surname (each containing
about 60 entries) in each county. Ignoring part frames, the name is only to be
found in five counties and London, namely, Warks 10 frames, Leics 4, Staffs
3, Worcs 2, Shrops 1 and London 6. When I looked similarly at Pountney, I
got a big surprise. Warks again topped the list with 6 frames, but they were
not recorded there in any significant numbers until the 1800s. Shrops had 6
frames, Worcs 4, Staffs 3 and London 3. There were just 4 entries (all
marriages) in Leics and three of those Pountneys were baptised Poultney.
Prior to 1800, Pountneys were only to be found in a few clusters of parishes
in the above three counties. How this concentration in the West and absence
in Leics came about, I have no idea – perhaps there is a Pountney researcher
out there somewhere, who can explain.
By now you will have gathered that Poultney and Pountney are the two
Leicestershire surnames referred to in the title of this article. True, Gumley is
likewise a local name, originating from the village, some ten miles southeast
of Leicester and derived from a “Woodland clearing of a man called
Godmund” – A.D.Mills. To complete the picture, I trawled through current
telephone directories checking up on both names. I found that where they are
today, is similar to where they were in past centuries - still centred about the
Midlands, Poultneys in the East and Pountneys in the West. I suggest that it is
probably all to do with a minimum population required to pass a name down
through following generations – which is where we came in, as they say.
David Robinson, 12, Catherine Drive, Sutton Coldfield, B73 6AX
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4/8/99
Cemeteries
25,057
4/8/99
Useful Sites
70,595
3/15/98
Surname Interests 42,819
6/17/00
E-mail Directory
17,979
10/16/99
Coach Trips
3,838
3/15/98
Picture Gallery
14,481
5/24/98
Free Photo Offer
20,617
5/24/98
Query Box
9,677
9/28/98
Bulletin Board
21,472
1/1/99
317176
Total Hits
304242
621418
My thanks to Toni for filling in for me in the last issue after my accident.
Pleased to say I am well on the mend now if still limping slightly.
The Web Site continues to grow and I would like to thank the many members
who say they find it very useful. The total hits of all pages now exceeding the
half million mark. It is very encouraging.
Spam is a growing problem though I notice Bill Gates says it will be a thing
of the past within two years, he must be working on something we don’t
know about! Anyway readers who E-mail me should put the relevant
important words in the subject line of their E-mails as I get so many
messages, mostly Spam, that I only look at the subject line and if I think it is
not relevant I delete it as Spam. Word such as “Hi” and “Hey” get an
immediate delete.
Is This Yours?
Found - A Family Bible with the surnames Monks and Priestly from
Woodhouse Eaves. If anyone has proven connections with this family the
bible can supplied. Enquiries initially to myself.
Mike Hutchinson, 197 Cole Lane, Borrowash, Derbyshire DE72 3GN
[email protected]
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THE RECORD OFFICE
FOR LEICESTERSHIRE
LEICESTER & RUTLAND
Long Street, Wigston Magna,
Leicester LEI8 2AH
Telephone 0116 2571080
Fax: 0116 2571120
A Benevolent Employer - by Pat Grundy
A hundred and fifty years ago, the Leicester Journal informed its readers that
they could buy a copy of the results of the census of Great Britain at all
booksellers and railway stations for a shilling, that Dinneford’s Pure Fluid
Magnesia was sold by all respectable chemists throughout the empire and that
Mrs. Charles Popham would be re-opening her dance academy in King Street
at 2.0pm on Saturday the 4 February. You could also send your child to
Loughborough Grammar School for the princely sum of £1 per quarter,
payable in advance.
Amongst the adverts and reports of the activities of petty criminals I found a
little story with the understated headline ‘PLEASING CONSEQUENCES OF
THE SNOWSTORM’, taken from the Derby Mercury. It was an account of a
snowstorm on Wednesday 11 January 1854 which was so bad that many of
the mill-hands, leaving the premises of J Smedley Ltd that evening, turned
back to ask for shelter. Mr Smedley seems to have been a kind-hearted
person who immediately arranged for two beds to be set up for his workers.
These beds were compared by the writer of the piece, for size and comfort, to
that of the Lord Mayor of London. One bed accommodated thirty men and
boys and the other forty women and girls.
Where did these amazing beds come from? The floors of two wool stores
were swept clean and the contents of twenty or so woolpacks were spread out
across them, eighteen inches deep. Sheets, blankets and covers were
improvised from the woolsacks themselves, supplemented by spare items
from the house and the attached free hospital. The mill-hands retired to these
luxurious beds after a supper of aptly named ‘hasty pudding’.
The next day dawned on blocked roads, cutting off distant homes. The
resourceful Mr. Smedley had a large supply of Scotch meal and he kept two
people busy making oatcakes for three days. These oatcakes together with
soup and meat provided the staple diet for the mill-hands for those three days.
On the fourth day the weather had improved sufficiently for the mill-hands to
be able to make their way to their homes, expressing ‘regret at leaving their
winter quarters’.
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Query Box
Editor – Please keep entries for the Query box
to a minimum of information as the requests are
many, and this gives scope to print more of your ancestral problems. Always
quote your membership number on all correspondence. – FREE SERVICE
ONLY TO MEMBERS.
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World War 1.
After exhaustive searches I have now accepted that my fathers service
records have not survived. I know that he was wounded and had convalescent
leave in Loughborough and I am now considering a search of the local
Newspapers to see if these events are mentioned. Does any member know
whether such events were mentioned in a local newspaper? If so, which one?
Any help will be much appreciated.
Malcolm Collier Smith, 9, Whitehall Close, Wilmslow Cheshire.SK9 1NP
[email protected]
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I have been trying, without success, for details re place and date of birth or
any relevant information of GEORGE THOMAS who married HANNAH
HORABIN at Twycross on 22 April 1776. Hannah Horabin was born 13
August 1755 and her father was Joseph Horabin. Family history tells the
story that George Thomas my great great great grandfather was a poacher
turned gamekeeper, and the Thomas family lived at Orton on the Hill, where
my grandfather and his brothers and sisters went to school.
I have got all our family tree but George is a stumbling block – so any
information would be appreciated
Mrs Megan Ingam (nee Thomas)
Bron Haul, Ffordo Gyffylog, Eglwysbach, Colwyn Bay, LL28 5TUE
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I am interested in finding out more about The Fever Hospital, Freakes
Ground, Groby Road, Glenfield.
An ancestor was a patient there in 1891. What was a fever?
Diana Wallis, 17 Falstaff Close, Nuneaton, CV11 6FB
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I have in my collection of family photographs, one of a young boy: ERNEST
HAROLD NEWILL – dated 1st February 1888.
He is the son of George Ernest and Lucy Eliza (Nee Phillips) Newill and was
born on 29 December 1885 at Coningsby House, Aylestone in the sub district
of Wigston. His father was a bank clerk.
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I would be very happy to copy this photograph and birth certificate to anyone
researching this family in the hope that a possible link can be made to mine.
Dianne Meakin (Mrs) 1 Forest Road, Loughborough, Leicestershire
LE11 3NN
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RICHARD LEWIN, possibly born at Hungarton married secondly Ann
Theakse, spinster of Frisby on the Wreake on either 9 th January 1782 or 9th
May 1782. Witnesses, John Swift (regular witness) and Liddey Fewkes. They
had two daughters, Ann baptised November 1782 (who may or may not have
died in February 1797), and Sarah, baptised in June 1785. Richard Lewin was
buried in July 1794, aged 70, and Ann Lewin, widow, was buried in May
1796 (no age given).
If this Ann Lewin was Richard's widow, then upon her death in 1796, Sarah
became an orphan. Sarah Lewin surfaces again when on 24 th April 1810 she
marries George Glover of and at Frisby on the Wreake. The witnesses to the
marriage were John and Ann Reeve, and are thought to be John Reeve and
the former Ann Read, spinster of Birstall, who were married at St Margaret's
Leicester on 15th April 1806 by reference to the similarity of their signatures
on both occasions (witnesses Frances Pagett and A. Kenney?).
A more attractive, but less likely possibility, however, is that John and Ann
Reeve were originally John Reeve, bachelor, and Ann King, spinster, who
were married at Billesdon on 23rd November 1786, and would therefore have
been Sarah Lewin's aunt and uncle by virtue of the fact that shortly
afterwards Ann's sister, Mary King, spinster, had married John Lewin,
sojourner, at Billesdon on 20th February 1787. A William Reeve witnessed
both marriages, but was a regular witness. Any help in understanding whether
John and Ann Reeve witnessed the marriage of George Glover and Sarah
Lewin as relatives of the bride or of groom would be much appreciated, as
would any indication of the origin of Ann Theakse who does not appear to
have been baptised at Frisby on the Wreake.
Dale Glover, 10 Nether Hall Lane, Birstall, Leicestershire LE4 4DT
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I am a new member and my great grandmother came from Rutland.
She was born BETSY DELILLE ALFIN on 21 July 1862 in Empingham to
William ALFIN and SARAH BROOM. She came to Normanton in
Yorkshire and married my gt. grandfather, William WHITE about 1885.
The following photographs are relatives, and I think the name of some is
HART and they ran a grocers shop on Oakham on the High Street.
They are taken about 1950-60
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In the picture above, my parents, Fred and Emma Hartley are second and
third from the left, not wearing white coats
Below, is a photograph of my father, FRED HARTLEY on the left. The other
two people are supposedly Fred Hart
senior and his daughter who had an
attachment at the time with an uncle
ALFIN WHITE, the son of Betsy
Delille White (nee Alfin)
As I am 68 years old and all the older
members of the family are no longer
with us, and even my mother who
lived to be 94 couldn't tell me of the
relationship. I hope that someone can
give me a link as possibly some of my
distant relatives are still around and
can help me with the family tree and I
in turn can give them the information
from this side.
Mr James Dean Hartley, 16 Gipsy Hill, Oulton, Leeds, LS26 8XD
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Any information sought on the CROW MILLS establishment, worsted
manufacturers in Wigston, the construction of the houses in, and the naming
of Orange Street.
Bill Orange, PO Box 180, Masterton, New Zealand
[email protected]
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Does anyone know if info / customer lists exist for these photographers? I am
hoping to identify photos taken in their studios –
AJ Osboume, Lincoln
J Priest, Grantham
WT Fisher, Tottenham
William Ball, Peterborough
A knighton, Kettering
GA Nicholls, Stamford
The New Gem Portrait, Leicester
W Rowes & Co, Leicester
Winter's Gem Studio, Derby
Walter Bino Brock, London
W Rowe & Co, Leicester
R Whitehead, Kettering
A Henry, Godmanchester
Walter Clayton, Leicester
JA Draycoff, Northampton
WJ Smith, Lincoln
Henry Holborn, Clonmel
A&G Taylor, London
Eades, Langham
James Brown, Leics &
Mason, Thrapston
Northampton
Hughes FC, Leicester
A Hendry, Godmanchester
T Vipond, Grantham
Arthur Maddison, Huntingdon
Mrs E Higgins, Stamford
Thank you in anticipation. I look forward to my next copy of the journal.
Claire Askew, 261 Windmill Avenue, Kettering, Northamptonshire
NN15 7EB
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I am seeking information on when and were my great great grandfather,
THOMAS GOODIN was born, and also his parents. He was born about 1777,
and married Sarah BATES on 7th November 1809 at Medbourne. They had
nine children. All information most appreciated.
Miss Shirley Goodin, 15 Hyland Avenue, Narooma 2546, Australia
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Can anyone help in this difficult search for a father whose name is not
known?
DIANA ELAINE WOODS was born in November 1944. Her mother was
Maud Kate Woods nee Bowman who lived at 172 Argyle Street, Leicester,
and her father was serving in the Royal Canadian Air Force probably in
Leicestershire in early 1944. His name is unknown and is not on Diana's
birth certificate.
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He returned to Canada, leaving money for Maud and his daughter to join him,
which they were unable to do. He came back to England about 20 years ago
looking for his daughter, Diana, and his search was mentioned on a
programme on Radio Leicester. Diana was unaware of her father's search for
her as she was adopted and her birth mother's sister, who heard the
programme, didn't know at that time how to get in touch with Diana.
Does anyone remember these people and are you able to help in any way?
(Radio Leicester's records are not held for more than six months).
Val Lord, 139 Valley Road, Loughborough, Leics. LE11 3PY.
[email protected]
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My 4 x great grandfather JOHN HOSKINS died 13 th November 1847 in
Hinckley workhouse aged 74 years, but I am unable to find a burial for him
in Hinckley where he lived, or Burbage where he married in 1800. Nor can I
find a register of death for his wife SARAH nee ALSOP or a burial for her. I
have searched many surrounding parishes but had no luck. Any suggestions
would be helpful
Martin Hoskins, 53 Manhood Lane, Sidlesham, West Sussex PO20 7LT
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RACHEL ROSA CROSSE, my great grandmother, practiced as a dentist in
Leicester from 1912-1918, initially at 46 Market Place and later at 65 London
Road. Her daughter, Caroline, my grandmother, lived at 'Thirlmore' Thurnby
(rooms) 48A Market Square 1912 – 1915, from where she was married in
1912, in Lambeth, to HERBERT JOHN CHAPMAN. However, she
continued to use her maiden name. My mother, RACHEL CHAPMAN, was
born at 46 Market Place in 1914.
I believe that they settled in Leicester because GABRIELLE CROSSE,
another daughter of Rachel Rosa's, had already married and settled in
Leicester, but I do not know her married name. Can anyone help me with
this, and with information about the properties where the family lived and
worked?
Mrs Karol London, 44 Cumnor Hill, Oxford OX2 9HB
[email protected]
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Trying to trace ancestors of GEORGE BURNHAM born circa 1784. He was
married to SARAH ATKINS of Goady Leics on the 17th April 1829 at
Bisbrooke Rutland (2nd marriage).
He was a sawyer by trade and died at Bisbrooke 8th April 1859 age 76 - his
widow/children remained in Bisbrooke until the mid/late 1800's before
moving via Stamford to Lancashire.
Any information appreciated
Peter Burnham, 10 Shaftsbury Drive, Heywood, Lancashire OL10 2PH
[email protected] .co.uk
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I was surfing the Net the other evening and I came upon a website
www.jacomb.com
that claimed that the 1931 census returns were destroyed in the blitz! Can this
be true? It is well known that the 1941 census was cancelled because of the
war but without the 1931 there will be a 30 years' gap. The next generation of
family historians will be deprived of a very useful tool. The effect on my
family will be typical. In 1921 my father was one year old, by 1951 he was
31 and married with two children.
Has any member any ideas on how we could ameliorate the problem this
large gap will cause future members?
Dick Harrison
[email protected]
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Can anyone recognise this postcard? It is postmarked Leicester 1925 sent
from gt Uncle who would be about 20 years old.
It reads: - 'This postcard will give you an idea what Swithland is like. Will
comes home twice a day, Len has started work today, up at 5 every morning.
Firework display on Old John tonight.
I would love to know what is going on.
Ann Macdonald, 9 Cornwell Village, Chipping Norton, Oxon, OX7 6TT
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Computer Bits
by Mike Ratcliff
[email protected]
Upgrading Windows
In the previous Journal I wrote about using hardware upgrades as a cheaper
alternative to replacing the whole computer. Moving to the latest version of
Windows can add a lot of new features and stability to your system, but in
some ways it can cause more problems than adding hardware.
Windows XP requires at least a 300MHz central processor, 128MB of RAM
and 1.5GB of available hard disk space – these are a minimum and may be
well beyond an old computer chugging along on Windows 95. For most
people the move to XP comes when they buy a new computer with the latest
software installed. Whether you upgrade or buy a new machine the problems
can start when you plug in your printer, scanner etc.
Peripherals, to give them their posh name, require drivers – small programs
that translate the instructions generated by Windows into signals that will be
understood by a specific device. Windows itself includes drivers for many
popular peripherals, but if yours is new or very old it’s probably not included.
New items are no problem as they come with an XP driver, but older devices
can be more problematic. Even if you have the disc that came with your old
scanner, for example, the driver would almost certainly be useless as it was
probably written for Windows 95 or 98 and not XP.
Your old driver won’t work, Windows hasn’t got one; what’s the next step?
If it can’t find a driver XP has an option to search the Internet, which may
come up trumps, though experience shows it’s not always successful. Trying
the manufacturer’s website is a good idea – large companies, such as Hewlett
Packard and Epson, are very good at producing drivers for their old items.
Look for an area of the site called ‘support’ or ‘downloads’ and if you can’t
find an XP driver try the Windows 2000 one as they often work. If you are
still stuck put the make, model number and the word ‘driver’ into the Google
search engine and see what turns up.
If your searches fail and you can’t find a suitable driver for one or more of
your peripherals I’m afraid you just have to put it down to progress, say how
well that old printer’s lasted, and go and buy a new one. Software is less of a
problem and very few old programs fail to run under XP. The most likely
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failures are games, which often used odd features in a specific version of
Windows to run faster or display better graphics.
Genealogy Software
If you are looking for a family history program, or want to upgrade from an
earlier version, Legacy 5 is now available. This powerful software comes in
two versions: a standard edition that is free, and a Deluxe edition. The free
version has plenty of features that will satisfy the needs of a lot of users and
serves as a trial if you are thinking of buying the Deluxe edition.
Both versions are available for download from www.legacyfamilytree.com
and include a comprehensive manual in PDF format. The Deluxe edition
costs just $US19.95 (around £12), which is a bargain for a program that must
be rated as one of the best available. If you prefer a printed manual that runs
to 348 pages, tutorial videos and other extras you may prefer to buy the
program from S&N Genealogy Supplies at www.genealogysupplies.com for
£38.13.
Owners Family Historian will be aware of their policy of releasing free
upgrades that add a lot of functions to an already comprehensive program. If
you missed it, the latest download, which will upgrade any earlier version to
2.2, is available from www.family-historian.co.uk. If you want to try the
program there is also a demonstration version you can download from the
same website. To keep the money coming in they must charge for an upgrade
at some time in the future, but so far they have proved to be in marked
contrast to rivals who charge for new versions containing very minor
improvements.
USB
A member contacted me to enquire about USB (Universal Serial Bus) and the
differences between USB and USB2. Older computers came with a printer
port and one or two serial ports and that was enough to connect the expected
printer, modem and one more item. With the advent of scanners, digital
cameras, card readers and the like it became clear that computers required
more and faster connections to the outside world – and that’s where USB
came in. The connectors are small, the cable is a lot thinner than the old
printer cables and it is fast.
Many computers come with two or four USB connectors, but if you need
more this is easily achieved by buying a hub. A hub, costing around £20,
plugs into one of the computer’s USB sockets and has four (or even six or
eight) sockets that you can plug extra peripherals into. In theory you can have
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over 100 devices plugged into one USB socket on your computer, should you
ever need it.
After USB came USB2, which is even faster and can transfer data in a shorter
time. Fortunately, the new version was made compatible with the old, so it is
quite all right to plug one into the other. The only slight drawback is the data
will only be transferred at the rate set by the slower device. Many modern
peripherals have dropped the old interfaces and only have USB, so if your old
computer doesn’t have them it’s another reason to consider upgrading.
Useful Or Interesting Links
The following links were all working when I tried them. Some will be
familiar to experienced users, but may be of interest to newer members.
A pay-per-view website with records from many English FHSs, including
LRFHS. Handy if you only want a small amount of information from a
county, which makes buying the CD or printed information uneconomical:
www.familyhistoryonline.net
Thousands of images covering waterways in Manchester, aviation in
Gloucestershire and the Great Central Railway from the 18 th Century to
today. Pictures of many railway features in Leicestershire that have
disappeared already, or will in the near future, together with images of their
construction make this fascinating: www.transportarchive.org.uk
Keeping track of registration districts in England and Wales can be difficult
as boundaries changed over the years. Once you’ve found the right one it’s
not always obvious where the registers are kept – in fact they may divided
between several offices. This website also gives contact details for all the
register offices: www.users.zetnet.co.uk/blangston/genuki/reg/
You can search the BMD index at www.1837online.com, though each page
viewed will cost you 10p. FreeBMD, as it name implies, is free and covers
1837 to around 1907 – though it has not yet transcribed the whole index. To
check the coverage for each year click the link on the home page. Even if you
are an experienced user you may be surprised by the amount of extra data
that has been added recently: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/
Any comments or queries? Please feel free to contact me.
Mike Ratcliff
[email protected]
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Your Letters
The Executive Committee Members are happy to receive
letters from any member, whether delivering a brickbat or bouquet, and
these will be dealt with according to content. However, we cannot give
credence to, or print material that is received anonymously. Any member
who wishes to contact the Chairman or any other committee member in
total confidence may do so
__________________
Dear Editor
The letter that appeared in the last Journal regarding computers also made me
sad. Mrs M S Smith appears to be feeling left out and not a little annoyed.
I am not a computer buff but I don't feel left out. However I do feel that the
place for computer articles is on the Society web page rather than in the
Journal. The time will come when the Society will stop printing the Journal –
there will be no call for it – everyone will be computer literate.
I retired without ever using a computer. I attended a 'computer course' but
gave up after ¾ of it, as I found it so boring – I preferred to do more
interesting things.
I have never seen any reference to how many members use computers in their
research – either as owners or in libraries, but I suspect that there are many
who feel as Mrs Smith feels. I note that Derbyshire FHS publish no articles
relating to computers even though CD's are published for sale.
On page xix in the centre pages there is reference to CD16 – Marriage Index
1801-37 "scanned version of the published volumes" – can these still be
purchased?
Name and address supplied
Editor:
I believe I answered the questions regarding the computer articles in the
Journal in the last edition. However, I can comment on the fact that we have
reverted to CD's rather than publishing in book form or fiche.
The exec committee did look in to publishing some of the census's recently on
fiche, and found that to sell a similar amount of data on fiche that is now on
one CD was in the region of £120. We therefore thought the cost prohibitive.
I can't comment on the Derbyshire FH Journal other than to say that maybe
they are not as fortunate as we are in having such an excellent regular
contributor as in Mike Ratcliff, who keeps us so well informed on new ideas,
web sites and other computer related items. Mike is a regular contributor to
articles in 'Your Family Tree' magazine after being spotted from the articles
in our Journal.
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Dear Toni,
I read with dismay the letter from Mrs Smith complaining that the magazine
is too computer orientated. To this end I counted up the articles/adverts etc.
relating to computers or software in last months copy and found they totalled
under seven pages. As that magazine was actually 68 pages long this is
hardly excessive, especially as some of the items related to recent
acquisitions by the society for use on the library computers and therefore in
theory open to any member to use.
If it had not been for the advent of computers, the IGI indexes on microfiche
would not have been possible,, does Mrs Smith never use these?
I think you do an excellent job with the magazine, keep up the good work,
Linda Brockway member B0701
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Dear Toni,
The unusual names quoted by Mick Rawle in Journal No 112 included
Treandephilia Skillington. She was the daughter of Stephen and Harriett
Skillington and sister to my great grandmother Annie Maria Driver (nee
Skillington). She died young c1852 after appearing in the 1851 census and
was buried in Welford Road cemetery. I remember looking up her burial in
the burial card index (when the LRFHS reference library was at the Town
Hall). I mentioned this to my grandmother, Kate Light, (nee Skillington and
daughter of Annie Maria Driver). She said she remembered there was another
daughter called Ama or Amah, but I have never been able to trace her? The
rest of Stephen Skillington's children had conventional names, however
Annie Maria and two of her sisters were baptised as children in 1865 at St
George's church. It is possible that my gg grandfather may have belonged to
another Christian sect before returning to the Church of England in 1865. The
name Treandephilia derives from Greek and means Rose (cf Complete Book
of Baby Names by Hilary Spence).
Also I was interested in the article by John Whittaker in Journal No 114, I
was born in 1952 and only remember Simpkin and James the Grocers.
However my mother remembered all the shops mentioned. Raimants &
Vickers Mounts were also grocers, Hoggets was a menswear shop, Corts and
Pochins were Hardware, Kitchenware shops and Pochins also did Garden
Supplies and tools (did the Pochins of that firm have any connection with
Pollard & Pochin the hosiers? (that family being connected to my father's
family)). Leas was a ladies clothes shop. Adderleys (later taken over by
Rackhams) were a high-class dress and furnishings shop. Grices were a
similar type of shop and were in High Street (my mother thought they were
not very successful and closed in the 1930's) Stoyell's were another ladies
shop (and my mother remembered as a girl the overhead electric cash transfer
system from till to cashier). I remember as a boy Marshall & Snelgroves
(formerly Joseph Johnson's where my mother bought the Viyella from which
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she made my first nightdress) and Fenwick's (where I used to have afternoon
tea with my grandmother when I stayed with her). Like Mr Whittaker I left
Leicester in 1955 when my father got a job in Rugby and have lived in
Birmingham since 1958, but still visited my grandparents throughout the
1960's and 1970's right up 1989 when my grandmother left to live with us. I
still visit Leicester from time to time and this article brought back memories
for both my mother and me.
Tony Payne
[email protected]
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As part of the Federation of
Family History Societies
Conference
We are holding a Family
History Fair
29th of August 2004
For more details look at
at
www.lrfhs.net/fair2004
www.ffhs.org.uk
Loughborough
University
10.00am – 4.30pm There will be –
Family History
Societies
Bookstalls
Food & Drink
Plenty of parking
And much more
The full programme details and booking form now are available from
Bernard Amps, 100 Lynwood Drive, Romford, Essex, RM5 2QT,
tel: +44 (0) 1708 761125,
email: [email protected],
or visit the conference website
www.flightofyesterdays.org.uk
Please enclose SAE with any postal enquires.
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The Red Herring of St.John’s
by Elizabeth Higgins
I had researched my maiden name, Goodliffe, and found that the family were
yeoman farmers and had stayed put for two hundred years, so there was
plenty of evidence plus the advantage of other researchers willing to share
information.
My next project was to trace the lineage of my Granny Goodliffe who I knew
had been born Constance Eveline Clark. She was sixty-two when I was born
and was a tiny white haired lady who lived with her unmarried daughter at
Lambley Lodge, the family home at Mapperley, Nottingham.
It was known in the family that Granny had been secretly engaged at sixteen,
wearing her ring round her neck on a chain, to my thirty-year-old Grandfather
Charles Edward Goodliffe. Her parents disapproved so strongly that they
confined her to her room and I have a letter that Charlie wrote to her at this
difficult time. Eventually they were allowed to marry when she was nineteen
and he was thirty-three. Connie had
one brother, Ted, who was ten years
younger than his sister and who took
over his father’s blacksmith’s business
under some railway arches in central
Nottingham.
In contrast, Charlie was on the way to
owning the small chain of house
furnishing
shops
known
as
C.E.Godliffe Ltd. He was prosperous
and sweet natured, so Connie’s
parents need not have worried.
Probably they felt she was far too
young for the commitment!
This marriage sparked off an interest
in the social status of my ancestors,
and how certain individuals crossed
from one social bracket to another
when they married.
Connie and Ted.
Granny certainly led a charmed life when I knew her. Although widowed, she
played golf and bridge, she lived with her daughter Mary in a large house on
Private Road in Nottingham and she had attentive children and grandchildren.
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In the 1950s and 1960s the two of them were fortunate enough to have
holidays in such sophisticated places as Italy, Switzerland and the Channel
Islands.
At the start of my research into the Clarks I spent a day at the FRC in London
trawling the 1891 Census for Nottingham. Every mention of the name Clark
(e) was recorded, but I could not link any with my family.
Next I sent for my first ever certificate, which I should have done earlier. It
revealed that the parents of Constance Eveline Clark (born 16.1.1885) were
Thomas Henry and Sarah, formerly Barton. Thomas was a shoeing smith, and
they were a Derby family! My 92 year-old mother remembers Sarah when
she was widowed and living in Nottingham, but says she never felt
particularly welcome when she visited her with my father before their
marriage. I still do not know why Thomas Clark to move from Derby to
Nottingham. Maybe he had the opportunity to work for himself.
Another birth certificate told me that the father of Thomas Henry Clark (born
16.8.1861) was Joseph Clark, a man of integrity, he printer’s compositor of
Derby. His mother was Susanna (sic), formerly Springthorpe.
I sent for the marriage certificate of Susannah and Joseph and looked at the
1851 census for Derby. The marriage took place at Derby Register Office on
4.11.1848. The bride was 18 and the groom was 20 years old. Susannah’s
father was John Springthorpe, a collier.
The census return showed that she was born at Thringstone, Leicestershire.
Not only was my husband brought up on the edge of this parish, but his
parents still live there and our own banns were read there in 1969!
A search for Susannah’s baptism revealed that she was baptised as Susan on
1.4.1832 at St. John’s Whitwick along with her elder sister Mary Ann. Their
parents were John and Mary Springthorpe. There was no record of the births,
marriages or deaths of any siblings of Susannah and Mary Ann. There were
no further mentions of the family in Leicestershire despite a trawl of the 1841
census for N.W.Leics. and a search of many indexes at Wigston Record
Office and Freeschool Lane Research Library.
In the Leics. Marriage Index there was a John Springthorpe married in 1825,
but to an Elizabeth Smallwood, not to a Mary. There was also a John
Springthorpe who married Mary Hart in 1806 at Coleorton.
I then went back to the 1851 census for Derby. This was the first concrete
evidence I had of the two sisters after their baptism nearly twenty years
earlier. My gt. gt. grandparents Susannah and Joseph Clark were living with
their two-year-old son Isaac at 96 Nottingham Street in the St. Werbergh
district of Derby.
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Mary Ann Springthorpe was living on Nun’s Street, Derby, and at 21 was
unmarried and a worker at a silk mill. She was head of the household and had
living with her two male lodgers, and two female visitors.
I looked at the other Springthorpes living in Derby in 1851, and found an
ELIZABETH SPRINGTHORPE, who was a widowed nurse aged fifty,
liveing on Nun’s Street. Her birthplace was Hathern, Lancs.(sic)
I had the Springthorpes in mind every time I trawled parish records or census
returns looking for the Brooks, Jarvis, Waterfield or Kinsey lines, not to
mention those Smiths! But the fate of John and Mary Springthorpe remained
an enigma. They did not seem to be in the deaths section of the St.
Catherine’s House Index either.
I spent a good deal of time pondering the identity of the mysterious Mary
Springthorpe, the mother of Mary Ann and Susannah. Eventually I
constructed a theory, which could then be tested out.
At that time in Whitwick, the curate, Marmaduke Prickett performed most of
the baptisms. However, Francis Merewether, the vicar happened to baptise
Mary Ann and Susannah.
What if the vicar of St John’s Whitwick did not know the Springthorpe
family very well and had mistakenly recorded Mrs. Springthorpe as Mary
instead of Elizabeth? This would mean that the marriage between John
Springthorpe and Elizabeth Smallwood on 30.12.1825 might be the one
between my ancestors. But Mary Ann was not born until about 1830?
Another child named Mary Ann, daughter of John and Elizabeth
Springthorpe, was baptised at St John’s Whitwick on 10.3.1828. One of my
trawls revealed the burial of an infant named Mary Ann Springthorpe at
Breedon Church in September 1829. Her parents were not named, but she
had lived at Breedon Brand. So had the grieving parents named their second
daughter after her late sister? What about the widowed nurse in Derby in
1851? Could she be the mother of Mary Ann and my ancestor Susannah?
Now I needed to find out who the nurse was. The 1881 census had no record
of her, but the IGI and also the St. Catherine’s House Index gave the
marriage of Elizabeth Springthorpe at St. Werburgh, Derby on 4.10.1858.
The groom was William White.
I had paid a previous visit to the Derby Family History centre, and my second
such visit was memorable. At the Derby Local Studies Library I had the St.
Werburgh marriage records. There it was! Elizabeth Springthorpe, widow,
married William White, widower, on 4.10.1858 and Elizabeth’s father was
Thomas Smallwood, a china dealer. So my theory had been justified, and it
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looked as if the vicar of St. John’s, Whitwick had made a mistake in the
recording of the one and only mention (apparently) of the original family,
which was the baptism of Mary Ann and Susannah.
So the last piece of that puzzle was in place. But why was Elizabeth so keen
to name a daughter Mary Ann?
Well....there is a postscript. On 29.8.1797 Thomas Smallwood married Mary
Ball at Breedon and only three years later on 5.10.1800 Mary was buried.
Subsequently Thomas Smallwood married Ann Hudsby at the Chapel of
Worthington on 10.4.1802. It is difficult to work out when Elizabeth
Smallwood was born, as the Worthington parish registers and B.T's are
missing for several decades up to 1813. However, from her age on the 1851
census return it seems she was the daughter of Mary Ball who may have died
in childbirth, but Ann Hudsby would have brought her up from early infancy.
Hence the name Mary Ann, as a touching tribute to both mothers.
Elizabeth Higgins (H341)
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The Last Flights of Catalina JX 242 and Sunderland W 4036.
Lough Navar Ceremony
Speech given by Joe O'Loughlin
Castle Archdale War Exhibition Montage
We are assembled here today to pay tribute to the crews of two flying boats
that had been based on Lough Erne during World War 11. Well might the
question be asked how did it come that after 60 years interest has arisen in
that period of the history of Fermanagh. Initially the interest commenced ten
years ago in 1993 with the publication by Breege McCusker of her book, “
Fermanagh and Castle Archdale in World War 11”.
Many homes have either an attic or a cellar; in these places are hidden family
treasures waiting for the day to come when they will be discovered by a
younger generation. Likewise in the brain’s of our people there are stored
some wonderful memories of days and years gone past. The book by Breege
became the key that unlocked these memories for many people including
myself. Often at gatherings conversations took place – I remember this
incident – I was there when that happened.
A few short years ago our son-in law Phil Weir was checking something on
his computer, information on Catalina Flying Boats came up. Knowing of my
interest in the subject, Phil investigated further; this led him into contact with
former R.A.F. Ground Engineer Sergeant George Smith now living in Jersey
Island. Soon George and myself were in contact, my wife and myself visited
George in Jersey. As a result of all this George returned to Fermanagh for the
first time in 60 years. Here he visited his old base at Castle Archdale and
other parts of Fermanagh.
The information that George had on his website expanded rapidly as indeed
did the number of people using it to learn about members of their family who
had served here or to learn about those who died while serving here. Of the
many families that George has helped we are delighted to have here with us
today members of the family of Warrant Officer Ernest Slack. Antony,
grandson of Ernest, resides with his father Peter in Hong Kong. His discovery
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of George led him to Breege and myself, in turn this led on to having the
memorial stone erected here. The rest of the story you now know.
Catalina JX242 took off from Lough Erne on Sunday 19 th November 1944 to
go on an operations flight over the Atlantic Ocean. On it’s return journey in
the early hours of Monday morning the 20 th November, due to poor visibility
it crashed on a little lake named Lough An Laban. Another twenty feet higher
and it would have cleared a shelf of rock at the north end of the lake. The
crash happened at 7-15am on a cold winters morning. There were two
survivors, Warrant Officer C. Moore, who was not a regular crewmember; he
had gone on the flight to gain some experience. The second survivor was
Flight Sergeant Charles Bowater, I am happy to say that Charles is still alive
in England. Charles lost one of his boots in he crash, although minus the
boot, suffering from shock and other injuries he set off across the rugged
mountain top in search of help.
His only guide being the rising
sun, he knew that it rose in the
general direction of his base at
Castle Archdale. There were no
roads then, he would have passed
near the spot we now stand on,
this being the only part of the
hillside that he could climb down
to the shore of Lough Erne. Below
All that remains at the crash site
us we can see still standing the
little cottage where the Walmsley
family lived. The late Mrs. Walmsley remembered being out in her garden at
the back of the house and seeing this man in uniform. Charles still has very
clear memories of that fateful day. His daughter Gloria has kindly given me
her father’s account of it.
“My father made his way down the mountain, minus his left boot, saw the
little cottage and noticed that there was a lady hanging out washing on the
line. He approached her and asked for a drink of water. She took a look at
him and must have been so shocked at what she saw that she screamed and
ran into the house – not to be seen again. My father said he was in such a
mess he can’t blame her.
He made his way to the road, which was nearby, a vehicle stopped, but he
refused the first offer of a lift. He said he didn’t want anything to do with
mechanical devices. This was probably due to the shock. After a while a
civilian car stopped and probably because he was so tired he accepted a lift.
He was taken to hospital, he thinks in Irvinestown. He remembers that he
could see the mountain, where the crash occurred, through the hospital
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window as he lay in bed. When he was discharged from hospital he
remembers going back to the Nlssen hut that he had shared with his
crewmembers. He was a nervous wreck having to go alone back to the hut he
had once shared with his friends, so as to help alleviate the loneliness he
remembers staying in the mess every night for as long as he possibly could,
before being thrown out. Although it was such a long time ago he still dreams
often of his lost crewmates. If only he was well enough to come to the
ceremony he certainly would be here. My father has told us of the wonderful
people of Northern Ireland and the lovely countryside and he always meant
to return with us one day, but some how the years have passed and he has not
managed to make it.
Pupils at Roscor school recall seeing a man in uniform sitting on the wall
outside. From there a car possibly the police car from Belleek collected him.
About midday a rescue party from Castle Archdale arrived at the house of
Bennie Campbell and asked him to guide them up to the top of the mountain
and the crash scene. When they arrived there the second airman was missing,
they carried out a search until at 4pm a message came from Castle Archdale
saying that he had returned to base.
Recently I spoke to a survivor of a wartime aircraft crash.
He said to me with deep feeling, “It is not nice to crash, but Fermanagh is the
best place that it could have happened to me”.
The second aircraft that we remember today is Sunderland W4036 of 201
Squadron; which crashed into Lough Erne off the point of Maghoo just
beneath us. It was on a training exercise on Thursday 18 th November 1943
practicing take off’s and landing’s. The port wing struck the surface of the
lake causing the plane to crash and go on fire. Members of the Walmsley
family witnessed the crash and could see the fuel burning on the surface.
They could hear members of the crew calling for help. A rescue launch was
soon on the scene and the injured were taken ashore to ambulances and taken
to hospital. Unfortunately one of the six survivors died, he was Sergeant
Elvet Parry. He is buried in Flintshire, Wales. Sadly two of the crew did not
escape from the wreckage, their bodies are still on board. They were Flight
Lieutenant D.J. Dolphin, R. C. A. F. and Sergeant John Green. R.A.F. This is
one of two recognized war graves in Lough Erne.
In the month of May 1946 a moving ceremony took place on the lake. One of
the rescue barges used at Castle Archdale had an altar made on its deck. The
Altar was covered with the R.A.F. ensign and the Maple Leaf flag of Canada,
a cross shaped wreath was made from maple leaves taken from a tree in the
garden of a home in Toronto; they were specially flown in from there. On
board the barge were officers from Castle Archdale and other dignitaries. The
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Rev. John Switzer conducted a memorial service. When the barge reached the
place where Sunderland W4036 now rests the Canadian wreath was placed in
the water by C.B. Dolphin from Toronto, he was the father of Flight
Lieutenant Douglas Dolphin. It was Mr. Dolphin’s wish then that a
permanent memorial should some day be placed on the shore of Lough Erne
in memory of his son and all the other young men who had died in Lough
Erne. Today that wish has now been fulfilled.
I will conclude with a poem that will be quoted by another speaker today.
There are no roses on a sailor’s grave,
No lilies on an ocean wave,
The only tribute is the seagulls’ sweeps,
And the teardrops that a sweetheart weeps.
Sent to the Editor by George Smith – our Web Master in Jersey.
The Flying Boats of Lough Erne
I still lie here, beneath the hill
Abandoned now, to natures will
My hangers down; gone; my people
all
The only sound; a wild birds call
Who knows as evening shadows meet
Are they with me still? That phantom
fleet
And do their ghosts still fly unseen?
Across my waters so wide and green
But my mighty “birds” shall rise no
more
I do not hear the engines roar
And never now, does my bosom feel
The lift of that silver keel
And in the future should the forest tall
Change my face beyond recall
I shall still remember then
My metal birds and long dead men
From this ageless hill their voices cast
Thunderous echoes of the past
And still in lonely memory
Their great broad wings sweep down
to me
Now trees grown high, obscure the
sky
O! remember me when you pass by
For atop these curling waves
I was your home in other days.
Laughter, sorrow, hope and pain
I shall never know these things again
Emotions that I came to know
Of strange young men so long ago
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Episode On The River Kwai.
by J E Whitaker
The announcement was made on our return to camp at evening roll call. After
we had been counted. It came as a complete surprise, unheralded, as most
events were in our drab existence, by rumours or leaks from Camp Office.
Lieutenant Kokobu had stood as usual on his wooden dais, acknowledging
the reported presence of each working party with a brief salute accompanied
by a peculiar little gesture, which was half bow half nod. Then, through an
interpreter, we learned that all prisoners of the Imperial Japanese Army
employed on the construction of the Bangkok-Moulmein Railway were to
have the next day as a holiday to celebrate their Emperor's birthday. An
immediate buzz of speculative conversation was silenced by an angry howl
from a Nipponese N.C.O. We had to wait until we were dismissed before we
could discuss this unexpected relief from our daily tasks. It was December
1942, and since our arrival from Singapore in October, we had laboured
throughout the daylight hours without a break. Unsuccessful protests by our
Medical Officers and unfulfilled promises had taught us to expect nothing.
Apart from a few administrative personnel and cooks, only those who
displayed obvious and serious ailments were excused work.
In our huts in the feeble light from the flames of coconut oil lamps we ate our
evening meal of rice and dried vegetable stew. On the bug infested bamboo
shelf we called our bed space, my neighbour was a Scot in the Argyll and
Sutherland Highlanders. A few days earlier, a party passing through to work
up river told us survivors of our Regiments, last seen months before in
Changi, Singapore, were in a camp a few kilometres to the south. We decided
to make an attempt to contact them. Though leaving camp was forbidden, it
was not difficult. The conquerors of South East Asia did not waste time or
effort building stockades around work camps surrounded by hundreds of
square miles of dense jungle.
After a breakfast of plain boiled rice, improved slightly by adding a sweet
gooey brown substance purchased from the local Thais, we waited our
chance to avoid the patrolling Korean guards. We hurried through what had
once been a small tobacco plantation, making for the cover of the jungle, and
a bullock cart track, which led to the trace cleared for the coming of the
railway. Once there, we moved easily amongst the earthworks, until we came
to a half finished culvert, our daily task. From there we joined a wellestablished track, which was used as a supply route for the timber cut from
the jungle to build the culvert.
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It was necessary to use this track as the railway trace was not yet cleared
through to the lower camp. Walking was comfortable as we followed the ruts
of the bullock carts used to transport the timber. Though we left the
oppression of the camp daily, we laboured, half naked in ant like gangs. To
be away from the crowd was a rare pleasure. It created a feeling of freedom
to have a respite from the harsh ruthless labour we had endured since our
humiliation in Singapore, and we relaxed the wariness developed after close
contact with our captors. As we walked, sharing our experiences, we
discovered a common interest in football at home. My companion, a
Glaswegian explained the animosity in the Rangere- Celtic fixture. To an
East Midlander whose experience of football competitiveness did not extend
to religious intolerance, it took some under-standing.
Absorbed in conversation, we rounded a bend to come face to face with two
Japanese officers. The shock quickly changed to anxiety tinged with fear.
We had experience of the physical punishments of the Japanese, even for
minor misdemeanours. Neither was recognizable as guards from our camp.
The first thought was that they were the dreaded Kempei Tai, but they did not
wear the insignia of the brutal military police. Most likely they were from the
Railway Engineering corps, inspecting progress. The badges of rank
identified one to be the equivalent of a Captain and the other a Lieutenant.
The difference in rank was emphasized by the size of the Samurai swords
hanging from their belts. Both wore pistols.
Some explanation was obviously called for. My companion, recovering first,
tried to convey with combined Pidgin Glaswegian, acquired Nipponese and
sign language that we were collecting firewood and had lost our way. He
ended by saluting and made as if to go back to camp, calling me to follow. A
howl halted us. Though he did not say it in English the senior of the two
made it clear that he wanted us to accompany them. Not, as we expected,
back to our camp, but strangely, in the direction from which they had come.
Further attempts to explain were silenced by each of us receiving a hefty slap
across the face - the customary punishment in the Japanese Army for
insubordination. It convinced us that it would be wise to conform and do as
we were ordered. So we set off with our escorts behind. After a short
distance, the track divided. A second narrower footpath forked to the right
into thickets of bamboo.
A grunted order and a wave told us to take the right hand branch, which soon
narrowed further to a width where we had to walk in single file. It was a clear
but not, it appeared, a route that was in frequent use. The Japanese had not
persisted with their earlier belligerence, but as we walked further into the
isolation of the thickening undergrowth, it was not possible to avoid thoughts
of the atrocities we knew the Imperial Japanese Army to be capable of. We
had probably walked for some ten minutes or so, when, unexpectedly, we
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reached a clearing. Across the open space was a rock face, which extended
either side of the clearing. Rising up the rock face through a tangle of bushes
and vegetation was a footpath. Another grunted order and a wave of the hand
indicated that we were to lead the way up the slope. Eventually we reached
the entrance to a cave, where we hesitated, unsure of what was to happen
next, until the Japs joined us. The senior of the two made it clear that we
were to enter the cave.
With them following closely behind we entered the darkness. Some light
filtered in from the entrance, but not enough to distinguish any features.
Then the sound of rustling paper could be heard which one of our escorts
must have been carrying in his haversack. A match was struck, and the flame
applied to the folded paper. It was a poor flickering light, but just sufficient to
make out a narrow chamber, which did not extend far into the hill. When the
torch expired another was made. We could see on the bare earth floor a
charpoy. A light wooden frame bed webbed with string. On one wall we
could make out some scratched writings in an Asiatic script, but otherwise
the cave was featureless. Eventually, having apparently satisfied their
curiosity, they returned to the outside. We followed. Outside the entrance
they conversed together for a while, seemingly disappointed; as if they had
not found what they had expected. When their discussion ended, they
beckoned us to follow down the path, retracing our steps, until we reached
the bullock cart track.
The senior officer stopped, then, turning with a smile, handed each of us a
packet of the local Red Bull cigarettes, saying, pleasantly 'Arigato' (Thank
you) and dismissed us with a wave in the direction of our camp. We obeyed
with relief, questioning as we walked, the reason for this extraordinary
behaviour. Why, we asked ourselves, had they insisted that we accompany
them? What use had our presence been to their expedition? After the earlier
assertive exercise of their authority the subsequent behaviour was in stark
contrast to the treatment we had come to expect since our capture.
We could think of no practical reason, but one thought offered a remote but
plausible explanation. Could the two Japanese officers have felt there would
be safety in numbers? Perhaps even a bond between captors and captives?
Both in an alien land, should they have encountered unfriendly Siamese in
what could have been a sacred shrine or place of meditation. Not very
convincing perhaps, but what other reason was possible? We abandoned the
idea of visiting the lower camp to concentrate on returning to our own camp
without further incident.
Some twelve months later, after working our way almost to the Three
Pagodas Pass, two hundred kilometres up river, where the railway entered
Burma, those of us who survived, now in varying degrees of exhaustion from
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disease and starvation, returned to a base camp in the same area. It became a
daily task for those of us thought fit enough, to forage outside camp,
unsupervised, to collect bamboo for cookhouse fires. By now the immediate
vicinity was exhausted of suitable wood; so it was necessary to search some
distance from the camp. When exploring fresh ground with another prisoner,
we followed a track into nearby hills where we came upon a cave. Curious
we entered with caution. At first, all that could be made out were two
glowing blobs, one above the other. Then, gradually, as my eyes adjusted to
the gloomy interior a bland smiling face, many times larger than life
materialized around the glowing blobs, which were a pair of eyes. A body
stretched horizontally into the darkness. The head rested on a hand supported
by the elbow and the whole shape became recognisable as an image of the
Reclining Buddha. It was lying on a platform at the top of shallow steps.
As I took in this strange sight, I thought of the occasion when I had entered
the other cave. It was not beyond possibility that we had, perhaps, stumbled
upon what our 'friends' whom we never saw again, had been seeking that day
when our presence seemed to be of value to them.
This experience was whilst serving with the Leicestershire Regiment
John Whitaker, 36 Penylan Avenue, Porthcawl, CF36 3LL
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I have in my possession a quantity of postcards, all pre 1914, variously
addressed to either Alec{x} or Jessie ADCOCK of Kirby Road, Leicester.
Some have senders addresses and all are in good and legible condition.
Give me proof of a family connection and they are yours!
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127, Heath Lane
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LE9 7PF
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Welcome to the following New Members
November 2003
B0953 BATTLE Mr. TERENCE BRUCE, 88 BRABAZON RD, OADBY, LEICESTER
LE2 5HE
B0954 BACON
Mrs. NICOLA , 8 BIRDSNEST AVE, LEICESTER, LE3 9NB
B0955 BURTON Mrs. BRENDA, 81 HERMITAGE RD, WHITWICK, COALVILLE, LEICS. LE67 5EJ
B0956 BENGE
Mr. MERVYN - Mrs. C. 48 THURLASTON LANE, EARL SHILTON, EICS. LE9 7EF
B0957 BOND
Mr. TERENCE PAUL, 42 GROBY RD, GLENFIELD , LEICESTER, LE3 8GJ
B0958 BOXALL Mr. DENNIS CHARLES, 47 CROFTMEAD, SUMMERSDALE, CHICHESTER
WEST SUSSEX PO19 6RW
C0605 CLARKE , Mrs. DEBRA JAYNE, 30 ELSTREE AVE, N.H.E., LEICESTER, LE5 1LP
D0311 DORAN
Mr. MICHAEL J, VYSE HOUSE, LOVRE RD, WINKFIELD, WINDSOR SL4 2EU
D0312 DAY
Mr. PETER, 6 BEECH DRIVE, BRAUNSTONE TOWN , LEICESTER , LE3 3DA
F0270 FENGE
Mrs. SANDRA, 13 DASHWOOD RD, PRESTWICH, MANCHESTER M25 3AE
G0412 GOODIN Miss. SHIRLEY B. 15 HYLAND AVE, NAROOMA, NSW 2546, AUSTRALIA
G0413 GARRAWAY Ms. CAROLINE A, 4 HAZELDEN CLOSE, WOLLASTON, NORTHANTS.
NN29 7LH
H0707 HARTLEY Mr. JAMES DEAN, 16 GIPSY HILL, OULTON,
LEEDS LS26 8XD
H0708 HINDS, Mrs. JOANNE KIM, 57 RECTORY RD, MARKFIELD, LEICES LE67 9WN
H0709 HIBBERT, Mrs. IDA M. 195 KING ST KETTERING,
NORTHANTS. NN16 8QS
H0710 HAMILTON Mr. ALAN-Mrs. SUSAN, 32 SWITHLAND LANE , ROTHLEY, LEICS. LE7 7SE
J0201 JONES Mr. ALBERT , 'ASHAM', 19 LYCHGATE LANE , BURBAGE , HINCKLEY LE10 2DR
L0287 LUCAS Mrs CONSTANCE M. 18 THREADGOLD CLOSE, ANSTEY HEIGHTS, LEICS LE4 1BY
L0288 LONDON Mrs. KAROL E, TOP FLAT, THE OLD RECTORY, THE WALK, ISLIP, OXON.
OX5 2SD
L0289 LEDGER , Mrs. JO, 12 SAUNDERS CLOSE, LEE-ON-THE-SOLENT, HAMPSHIRE, PO13 8LX
M0525 MAUGHAM, Mr. JOHN F, 4 EVEREST RD, NEWTON HYDE, CHESHIRE, SK14 4DX
M0526 MARIAT, Ms. KATE , 44 HYTHE BRIDGE ST, OXFORD, OXON. OX1 2EP
M0527 MEDHURST , Mr. PETER R, 21 HOPPING HILL GARDENS NORTHAMPTON, NN5 6PF
P0453 PARTRIDGE Mrs. WENDY E, 37 DELTIC, GLASCOTE, TAMWORTH , STAFFS. B77 2DU
P0454 PRESTON Mrs. CELIA J, A, 18 BEAUMONT LEYS LANE,, LEICESTER, LE4 2BA
P0455 PEARSON, Mr. JONATHAN G, CASTLE ASHBY LODGE , NORTHAMPTON, NN7 1LH
P0456 PYATT , Mr. RICHARD M, 37 WILNICOTT RD, BRAUNSTONE TOWN, LEICESTER LE3 2TE
P0457 PENNELL, Mrs. MAUREEN A, 96 MARSH LANE, FARNDON, NEWARK , NOTTS. NG24 4SZ
P0458 POTTER, Miss. DAWN L, 12 CLAYBROOK AVE, LEICESTER, LE3 2GX
R0320 REYNOLDS Mrs. MEIRION ISABEL 84 RECTORY RD, WANLIP, LEICS. LE7 4PL
R0321 ROOT , Mr .MICHAEL & Mrs. R,. BORSLEY HOUSE, CHURCH ST, NORTH KILWORTH
LUTTERWORTH LE17 6EZ
S0755 STRINGER , Ms. WENDY, 29/39 KARALTA RD, ERINA, NSW 2250 , AUSTRALIA
S0756 SMITH Mrs. SHARON , 2 PATTERDALE DRIVE, LOUGHBOROUGH, LEICS. LE11 3RT
S0757 SUFFOLK, Mrs. MAGGIE, 36 ELLIOTT RD,
LEICESTER, LE4 2GP
S0758 SMITH, Mr. MICHAEL , 33 LILAC CRESCENT , BEESTON , NOTTINGHAM NG9 1PD
S0759 SWANN, Mr. JONATHAN, 15 MILVERTON AVE, LEICESTER , LE4 0HY
S0760 SWEETING , Mr. RICHARD C.A., 22 WILOWBROOK CLOSE, BROUGHTON ASTLEY,LEICS.
LE9 6HF
S0761 SMITH, Mr. CHRIS, 57 SILVER ST, BUCKDEN, St. NEOTS, CAMBS. PE19 5UD
S0762 SEAL, Mr. CHRISTOPHER, 90 TEIGN BANK RD, HINCKLEY, LE10 0EE
S0763 SMITH Mrs. PAMELA , 41 REGENTS WALK, L. F. E.. LEICESTER, LE3 3PB
T0309 TOMKINS, Mr. JOHN, 169 MAIN RD, LONGFIELD, KENT, DA3 7PJ
W0640 WHITE Mrs. MARIE, 152 NORTHAMPTON RD, MKT HARBOROUGH, LEICS. LE16 9HF
W0641 WHITE, Mr. DAVID LESLIE,44 CHARNWOOD DRIVE, L. F. E. LEICESTER LE3 3HL
December 2003
B0959 BACON Mr. J.J. - Mrs. P.V. 19B NURSERY RD, LEICESTER, LE5 2HP
B0960 BRAMWELL , Mrs. JUDITH, 98 ARTHUR ST, KENILWORTH, WARWICKSHIRE, CV8 2HG
B0961 BOYLE Mrs. MAGGIE H, 356 LEAM RD, HILLWOOD, TASMANIA , 7252 AUSTRALIA
C0606 CROUCHER, Mrs. JILL, 38 SPEEDWELL DRIVE, BROUGHTON ASTLEY, LEICS. LE9 6YW
C0607 CURTIS Mr. PHILLIP ANDREW, 5 DUTSON RD, LAUNCESTON, CORNWALL PL15 8DX
D0313 DAWSON , Mr. PETER ANDREW, 2 JOHNSON CLOSE, NORTH LUFFENHAM , OAKHAM
RUTLAND LE15 8LL
E0162 EMMERSON, Mr.ROBERT-Mrs.ALISON, 33 HEATHBROOK DRIVE, RATBY, LEIC LE6 0XB
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67
F0271 FRANCIS, Mr. HUW JOHN, 10 THOMAS CLOSE, HOUGHTON ON THE HILL, LEICS.
LE7 9HF
G0414 GEARY Mr. I.H. - Mrs. K.M. 152 SWITHLAND LANE , ROTHLEY, LEICS. LE7 7SV
H0711 HANCOCK, Mr. MICHAEL, BEECH CROFT COTTAGE, SCHOOL LANE, BASLOW BAKEWELL
DE45 1RZ
H0712 HAMES, Mr. R.K. - Mrs. L.E. 42 ELLIOTT DRIVE, INKERSALL, CHESTERFIELD, DERBYS.
S43 3DP
H0713 HULL, Mrs. KATHLEEN,134 HANDSWORTH HSE, QUINTON CLOSE, SOUTHSEA PO5 4NG
J0202 JONES, Mrs. JEAN, 95 SHERWOOD RD, STOKE GOLDING, NUNEATON, WARKS. CV13 6EP
J0203 JOHNSON , Dr. DAVID, 38 GLEDHOW WOOD GROVE, ROUNDHAY, LEEDS, LS8 1NZ
J0204 JONES, Mrs. JOYCE ELIZABETH ,10 CARTWRIGHT DRIVE, OADBY, LEICESTER, LE2 5HL
K0188 KING, Mr. DAVID FRANK, 106 TALBOT STREET, WHITWICK, LEICS.
P0459 POULTON, Mrs. ALISON, 65 WOODLANDS RD, HERTFORD, HERTS. SG13 7JF
P0460 POTTER, Mr. COLIN J, 45 RAFFINDALE AVE, DAKABIN , QUEENSLAND 4350 AUSTRALIA
R0322 RIDDICK Mrs. PATRICIA, 3 WOODFORD CLOSE, LITTLE HILL, WIGSTON, LEICESTER
LE18 2RS
R0323 RUSSELL Dr. IAN, 115A CARLYLE RD, LITTLE EALING, LONDON W5 4BP
S0764 SNOOK, Mrs. SHIRLEY , BOX 79, ROBE, SOUTH AUSTRALIA 5276 AUSTRALIA
S0765 SMITH, Mr. CHARLES DAVID, GARDEN COTTAGE, DAVENTRY RD, SRAVERTON –
Nr. DAVENTRY NORTHANTS. NN11 6JH
S0766 SHAW Mr. JOHN HENRY, 53 WESTBANK AVE, MANSFIELD, NOTTS. NG19 7BU
S0767 SALMON, Mr. PETER DAVID, 31 WEST AVE, PINNER, MIDDLESEX, HA5 6BZ
T0310 THRELFELL, Mr. JOHN ASHLEY, CHARTLANDS, MAIN ST, BRUNTINGTHORPE
LEICS. LE17 5QE
T0311 TOMKINS, Mrs. YVONNE , 59 DINES CLOSE , WILSTEAD, BEDFORD, MK45 3BU
W0642 WALLACE, Mr. PHILIP, 103 LONNEN RD, COLEHILL , WIMBORNE , DORSET BH21 7AU
W0643 WYCHE, BARBARA, 2006 N GREENS BOULEVARD, RICHMOND, FORTBEND - TEXAS –
77469 U.S.A.
W0644 WEST, Mr.ROGER-Mrs.CAROLE, 64 GROBY RD, ANSTEY, LEICESTER, LE7 7FL
January 2004
A0265 ARCHER Mrs. NORMA E. 6 St. ANDREWS CLOSE, ROMILEY, STOCKPORT, CHESHIRE
SK6 3JR
B0962 BAKER, Mrs. ADRIENNE R, 11 SOUTHDOWN DRIVE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER LE4 8HS
B0963 BRAILSFORD, Mrs. LINDA J, 7 KNIGHTS CLOSE, STENSON FIELDS, DERBY DE24 3DL
B0964 BAXTER , Mr. RICHARD D, 2 WOOD STREET, MERSTHAM, SURREY RH1 3PF
B0965 BRYAN, Mr. JOHN P, 4 HURLEY GARDENS, BURPHAM, GUILDFORD, SURREY GU4 7YH
B0966 BURTON, Mrs.MARIANNE ,STENSON CRO-LEIGH COTTAGE, SHORE RD, LAMLASH
ISLE OF ARRAN KA27 8LG
B0967 BOTTOMLEY, Mr. STEPHEN C, LOWLAND COTTAGE, St. CATHERINES HILL, St. MARTIN
JERSEY CHANNEL ISLANDS JE3 6DB
B0968 BRYANS, Mr. DAVID, 19 FULMAR CLOSE, COLCHESTER, ESSEX CO4 3FJ
C0608 COLE, Miss. MARIANNE, ALEXANDRA VILLA, 20 ZIG ZAG ROAD, VENTNOR , ISLE OF
WIGHT PO38 1BZ
C0609 COWLEY, Mrs. ALISON, 4 THE GREEN, ALLESTREE, DERBY , DE22 2RH
D0314 DILKS, Mr. STEPHEN B, 1302 BROOKDALE TERRACE, VIENNA, VIRGINIA, 22182 U.S.A
D0315 DEXTER, Mr. DAVID, 1036 PEMBROOK DRIVE, NEENAH, WISCONSIN 54956
U.S.A.
D0316 DICK, Mrs. PATRICIA R., 937 Mt. EDEN RD, Mt. ROSKILL, AUCKLAND, 1004 NEW ZEALAND
E0163 ELLIS, Mrs. BRENDA, 56 SIDNEY ROAD, RUGBY , WARKS. CV11 5LD
E0164 ELLIOTT, Mr. PAUL ROBERT, 153 GLENHILLS BOULEVARD, LEICESTER, LE2 8UH
F0272 FIELD, Mr. PHILIP KEITH , 1 GILLAMORE DRIVE, WHITWICK, LEICS. LE67 5PA
G0415 GEESON, Mrs. LINDA J, 20 NENE GROVE, AUCKLEY, DONCASTER, S/YORKS DN9 3JJ
G0416 GREEN, Mrs. ANN,15 ELGAR DRIVE , LONG EATON, NOTTINGHAM, NG10 3PY
G0417 GILDOVE, Mr.DAVID - Mrs.ROSIE, 40 REDWOOD AVE, MELTON MOWBRAY, LEICS.
LE13 1UT
G0418 GODRICH, Mr. STEPHEN J, 13 NORWOOD CLOSE, SWALLOWS GREEN, HINCKLEY
LEICS. LE10 1TS
G0419 GOODMAN, Mr.FRED-Mrs.BARBARA 18 THE OVAL, MKT HARBORO, LEICS. LE16 7LB
G0420 GREEN, Dr. ANDREW, 59 BARROW RD, SILEBY, LEICESTER LE12 7LW
G0421 GRUDGINGS, Mr. JOHN, 14 BEACON DRIVE, LOUGHBOROUGH , LEICS. LE11 2BD
H0714 HARE, Mrs. SUE, 6 STANHOPE TERRACE, HORNCASTLE, LINCS. LN9 5EG
68
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H0715 HASELGROVE , Mrs. ALISON, 4 CHARLES WAY , WHETSTONE, LEICESTER, LE8 6WA
H0716 HEWITT, Mr TERENCE L.,52 BIDDLE ROAD, LITTLETHORPE, LEICESTER LE19 2HD
H0717 HUBBARD, Mr. D.P. - Mrs. B.D. 40 FALCON ROAD, ANSTEY, LEICESTER, LE7 7FY
H0718 HAWORTH , Mr. R. - Mrs. P.,1769 MELTON ROAD, REARSBY ,LEICESTER, LE7 4YR
H0719 HARDWICK, Mrs. LAVINIA, 26 LAURELWOOD ROAD, DROITWICH SPA, WORCS.
WR9 7SE
J0205 JEFFREY, Mr. STEVEN, 60 SANVEY LANE, AYLESTONE, LEICESTER, LE2 8NF
J0206 JONES, Mrs. PAULETTE, ROSEBRIARS, 22 - 24 MAIN ST, KIRKBY GREEN , LINCOLN LN4
3PE
K0189 KNIGHT , Mrs. JACQUELINE A, 94 HEACHAM DR, LEICESTER, LE4 0LG
K0190 KNIGHT, Mr.G.A.HOLMAN-Mr.G.A, 1A EDWARD RD, FLECKNEY, LEICESTER, LE8 8AD
M0528 MELLOR, Mrs. VALERIE, 51 CHORLEY WAY , WIRRAL, MERSEYSIDE, CH63 9LS
O0093 OVER, Mr. FRANK, 14 LANGTON ROAD, WIGSTON, LEICESTER, LE18 2HT
P0461 PETHERBRIDGE , Mrs. AUDREY K, 115 LOUTH RD, SCARTHO, GRIMSBY, N.E. LINCS.
DN33 2JU
P0462 POULTER, Mr. DOUGLAS, 2232 Sw DANFORTH Cir, PALM CITY, FL
34990, U.S.A.
P0463 PARR, Mrs. VICKI, GREENWAYS, 75 THE FLATTS, SOWERBY, THIRSK, N/YORKS YO7
1LZ
P0464 POTTER, Mr. & Mrs. BERNARD, 9 AVON CLOSE, OADBY, LEICESTER, LE2 4JD
P0465 PALLETT, Mrs. JENNIFER, 41 HEATH RD, MARKET BOSWORTH, NUNEATON , WARKS
CV13 0NX
R0324 ROWE, Mr. MICHAEL JOHN, 19 PETWORTH DRIVE , LEICESTER, LE3 9RF
R0325 ROBERTS, Mr. DEREK ARTHUR, 63 NELSON DRIVE, HINCKLEY , LEICS. LE10 1PH
R0326 RICHARDSON, Mrs. PAMELA, 66 GREAT BOWDEN ROAD, MKT HARBOROUGH, LEICS.
LE16 7DG
S0768 SMEDLEY, Mr. MICHAEL JOHN, 89 CASTLE ROCK DRIVE,COALVILLE, LEICES, LE67 4SE
S0769 SNUSHALL, Mr. GEOFFREY E, THE COTTAGE, LINKS RD, KIRBY MUXLOE, LEICESTER
LE9 2BP
S0770 SOUTH, Mr. JOHN A, 24 WALTHAM RISE, MELTON MOWBRAY, LEICS. LE13 1EJ
S0771 SMITH ,Mr. DARRYL A, 101 WESTCOTES DRIVE, LEICESTER, LE3 0SQ
S0772 SLACK, Mrs. CELIA, APPLETREE COTTAGE, THE GREEN--19 MAIN STREET, SPROXTON
MELTON MOWBRAY , LE14 4QS
S0773 SMITH , Mrs. ALTHEA LILIAN, 38 DURHAM RD, LOUGHBOROUGH , LEICS. LE11 5UA
W0645 WORTHY, Mr. GEOFFREY, 2 LINFORD CLOSE, WIGSTON MAGNA, LEICESTER, LE18 3PZ
W0646 WADE, Mrs. KATHLEEN F. 8 WOODBANK ROAD, GROBY, LEICESTER, LE6 0BN
W0647 WALLACE , Mr.JOHN - Mrs.ERICA, 4 NANTWICH RD, AUDLEY, STOKE ON TRENT
ST7 8DH
W0648 WALFORD, Mr. J.G., CHORCAILL - HARBOUR ROAD, REAY, BY THURSO, CAITHNESS
KW14 7RG
W0649 WEBB, Mr. JOHN, 81 CHRISTOPHER DRIVE, LEICESTER, LE4 9FX
Members with Extra Interests (included in the members interests below)
D0310 DERRY Mr F, 86 AMBLESIDE DRIVE, EYRES MONSELL, LEICESTER LE2 9FA
Members Obituary
Roger Pickering ( P15 )
Husband of Margaret, they were joint membership secretaries of the Family
History Society for about two years before handing over to Joyce and
Michael Billings at the beginning of 1983.
Roger has been very ill for some time now and sadly died on the 23rd
December 2003.
LRFHS Journal No. 115
March 2004
69
Members Interests
ADAMS 1870
Aylestone LEI
ALDRIDGE 1700-1800
Clifton Campuille
STS
ALFIN 1800S Rutland
RUT
ALLEN 1880S Leicester
LEI
ALLEN >1890 Darley Abbey
DBY
ALLEN >1890 Derby
DBY
ALLSOP 1800-1840 Fleckney
LEI
ALLSOP 1800-1840 Gumley
LEI
ALLSOP >1890 Derby
DBY
ALLSOPP 1850S Fleckney
LEI
ALMOND 1850-1950 Surrey
SRY
ANGRAVE 1700-1950 Gilmorton
LEI
ANGRAVE 1700-1950 Leics
LEI
ASPINALL 1800-1900
Wigan LAN
AUCOTT 1870
Ireland IRL
BACON ANY Nuneaton
WAR
BACON
ANY
Leics
LEI
BACON 1871 Newbold Verdon
LEI
BACON 1850 Newbold Verdon
LEI
BALL 1786 Northampton
NTH
BALLARD 1870S E Leicester
LEI
BARNES C1860 Wigton
DUR
BARNES C1860 Hartlepool
DUR
BARRATT 1700-1900 Manchester
LAN
BASKILL >1700 Nottingham
NOT
BASKILL >1700 Chesterfield
NTT
BASON 1700-1850 Sharnford
LEI
BATTLE 1860 Moulton
NTH
BIDDLES ANY Any
ANY
BILLSON <1950 M Mowbray
LEI
BILLSON ANY Leicester
LEI
BISHOP 1800-1930 Hastings
SSX
BLACK 18-19C Twyford
LEI
BLACK
18-19C Ashby
LEI
BLACKMAN1800-1930 Hastings
SSX
BOND
1870 Leics
LEI
BOOLE 1875-1925 Leicester
LEI
BOXALL ANY ANY
ANY
BRAMLEY 1700-1750 Sheepy Magna
LEI
BRAY 1800-1900 Launceston
CON
BRITTON >1800 Leics
LEI
BROOM
1800S Rutland
RUT
BROWN 1897 Leicester
LEI
BROWN 1810 Leics
LEI
BROWN 1700-1800 Sth Yorks
YKS
BRYANS >1700 Leicester
LEI
BURDETT ANY Leicester
LEI
BURGESS 1850 Oakley, Beford
BDF
BURLEY ANY Countesthorpe
LEI
BURNS
>1890 Derby
DBY
BURNS
>1890 Notts
NTT
BURROWS 1800-1900 Stamford
LIN
BYRON
1830 Co. Sligo
SLI
CHAPMAN 1912-1918 Leicester
LEI
CHATTAWAY1920 Stamford
LIN
CHATWIN 1881-2004 Leicester
LEI
CHENEY 1740S Narborough
LEI
CHESHIRE 1800-1900 Mkt BosworthLEI
70
P0457
M0528
H0707
R0320
G0414
G0414
M0526
M0526
G0414
R0321
P0352
F0269
F0269
G0417
B0957
B0954
B0954
B0959
C0606
P0453
L0289
E0162
E0162
G0417
S0757
S0757
M0525
B0953
W0646
H0713
H0713
H0715
P0459
P0459
H0715
B0957
S0756
B0958
M0528
P0352
W0644
H0707
B0959
C0606
H0716
B0968
E0164
C0606
H0714
G0414
G0414
P0352
C0606
L0288
S0770
A0265
M0528
P0463
LRFHS Journal No. 115
CHRISTIAN 1750-1880 Mkt Overton RUT
CLARK(E) 1750-1910 Oakham
RUT
CLARK(E) 1750-1910 Ashwell
RUT
CLEAVER
ANY Leics
LEI
CLEMENT(S)>1700 Nottingham
NTT
CLINCH 1700-1900 Cholsey
BRK
COCKLE 1900 St Pancras
LND
COLES 1850-1900S Leicester
LEI
COLEY c1902 Leicester
LEI
COLTMAN
ANY Any
ANY
COOKE 1870S Loughboro'
LEI
COOKE 1870S E. Leicester
LEI
COOKE 1880S Leicester
LEI
COULTER 1700-1900 York
YKS
COULTER 1700-1900 Scotland
SCT
COX >1600 Countesthorpe
LEI
CROSSE 1912-1918 Leicest
LEI
DAKIN 1700-1900 Cheshire
CHS
DANIEL 1740-1900 Merionethshire MER
DAVIDSON 1900 South Shields
DUR
DE-BOARD ANY Wigston
LEI
DENT 18-20C Croxton Kerrial
LEI
DERRY
Leics and Rutland
RUT
DEWICK 1875-1925 Leicester
LEI
DIGGINS1800-1900 Hastings/Brighton
SSX
DUFFIELD
<1924 Yorkshire
YKS
ELLIOTT
1850-1930 Somerset SOM
ELLIS
<1901
Lincs
LIN
EMMERSON ANY Sunderland
DUR
ENGLISH
1750-1850 Hastings SSX
FIRMI(A)N
>1800
Suffolk SFK
FLETCHER
>1890
Somerset SOM
FLOAR 1700-1900 Whissendine LEI
FORD
1850-1950 Sussex SSX
FORD
1900
Stamford LIN
FOSTER
1830
Leics
LEI
FRANCIS
1770-1900 Anglesey AGY
FREER
1750-1800 Leicester LEI
FREER 1750-1800 Narborough
LEI
GAMBLE
1800-1900 Fleckney LEI
GANDY
1830
Syston LEI
GATE
C1860
Wigton DUR
GATE
C1860 Hartlepool
DUR
GAZEY
1850-1900S Burton STS
GAZEY
1850-1900S Leicester LEI
GEARY
>1850
Leics
LEI
GLOVER
1750-1900 Oadby LEI
GOODAYLE <1842
Kent
KEN
GOODIN 1776-1780 Northants
NTH
GOODWIN
1832 Leicester
LEI
GOREHAM
1800-2000 Essex
ESS
GORRINGE 1700-1900 Ringmer/Brighton
SSX
GREEN 1700-1900 Sth Yorks
YKS
GREWCOCK1800-1900 Narborough LEI
GREWCOCK1800-1900Barton in Beans LEI
GREWCOCK1800-1900 Barwell
LEI
GREWCOCK1800-1900 Leicester LEI
HARGRAVES<1901
Lincs
LIN
March 2004
G0416
G0416
G0416
K0190
S0757
P0352
R0325
P0456
P0456
W0646
L0289
L0289
R0320
B0958
B0958
B0954
L0288
G0417
F0271
B0959
K0190
P0459
D0310
S0756
P0352
L0287
E0164
E0163
E0162
P0352
F0271
G0414
G0417
S0762
S0770
C0606
F0271
M0525
M0525
P0352
C0609
E0162
E0162
P0456
P0456
G0414
P0465
S0769
G0412
B0962
F0271
P0352
H0716
M0528
M0528
M0528
M0528
E0163
HARMAN(ER)1700-1900 Hastings SSX
HARPER 1750-1870 M Mowbray LEI
HARRISON 1700-1850 Sharnford
LEI
HARRISON 1700-1850 Leicester
LEI
HARRISON 1850-1920 Dronfield
DBY
HARRISON 1900-1930 Packington LEI
HARRISON <1850 Derby
DBY
HARRISON 1800S Leicester
LEI
HARRISON 1700S Leicester
LEI
HARROLD
1700-1950 Leics
LEI
HART
1800S
Rutland RUT
HASTING ANY
Any
ANY
HAYES
1750-1900
Solihull WAR
HAYWARD 1800S Mendlesham
SFK
HENDY
ANY Birmingham
WAR
HEWITT 1700-1800 Sth Yorks
YKS
HICKMAN 1700-1900 M Mowbray LEI
HIDE
1700-1900
Hastings SSX
HIGGS
ANY Countesthorpe
LEI
HILL
1870
Seamer YKS
HIND
1800-1900 Quorndon
LEI
HOLEWELL 1800-1930 Hastings
SSX
HOLLIER ANY
Leics
LEI
HUBBARD 1750-1800
Brooke RUT
HUDSON <1924 Yorkshire
YKS
HUNT
1800-1900 Shepperton MDX
HURST
ANY Knighton
LEI
IRELAND <1900 Manton
RUT
JENMAN 1800-1950 Sussex
SSX
JENNINGS 1782 Lutterworth
LEI
JENNINGS 1825 Lutterworth
LEI
JOHNSON 1800S Rutland
RUT
JOHNSON 1700-1850 Frolesworth LEI
JOHNSON 1700-1850 Sharnford
LEI
JONES ANY Glos.
GLS
KEIGHTLEY ANY Leicester
LEI
KEMP 1800-2000 Essex
ESS
KILDUFF 1700-1900 Co Mayo
IRL
KIRBY 1600-1850 Leicester
LEI
KNIGHT ANY Wigston
LEI
LANE 1800
Somerby
LEI
LEWIN 1830 Measham
LEI
LEWIN 1800 Billesdon
LEI
LIGGINS <1901 Coventry
WAR
LOCKE 1850-1950 Leics
LEI
LOWE 1870s Whitwick
LEI
MADDISON 1540 Nth Kilworth
LEI
MARSHALL 1700-1900 Nott
NTT
MARTIN 1800-1900 Launceston
CON
MARVELS
Leics & Rutland
RUT
MASTERS 1840-1870 Leicester
LEI
MATHEWS 1600-1850 ANY
ANY
McNIGHT 1825 Birmingham
WAR
MEADOWS 1750-1800 Brooke
RUT
MEDHURST >1750 Leics
LEI
MEDHURST <1800 Kent
KEN
MILES
1800S Leics
LEI
MOLEYNEUX 1750-1900LoddingtonLEI
MOLEYNEUX1750-1900 Brooke RUT
MOLEYNEUX1750-1900 Brooke RUT
P0352
G0416
M0525
M0525
H0711
H0711
H0711
T0311
T0311
F0269
H0707
O093
P0465
P0454
J0201
H0716
G0417
P0352
H0714
B0953
P0463
H0715
W0647
G0416
L0287
P0352
H0714
H0719
B0968
P0453
P0453
H0707
M0525
M0525
J0201
B0964
F0271
G0417
B0958
K0190
C0609
C0609
C0609
E0163
F0269
L0289
R0321
G0417
P0352
D0310
T0311
B0958
P0453
G0416
M0527
M0527
H0707
G0416
G0416
G0416
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MOLLINEUX1750-1900 Loddington LEI
MORFEE 1700-1900 Hastings
SSX
MURPHY 1850-1900S Leicester
LEI
MURRELL
1800-2000 Essex
ESS
MURRELL 1800-2000 Middlesex
MDX
MUXWORTHY1650-1920 Devon DEV
NEWBOLD
1860 Lutterworth
LEI
NEWBY 1875-1925 Leicester
LEI
NORMAN 1881-2004 Leicester
LEI
NORMAN 1650-1900 Barwell/DesfordLEI
NORMAN 1650-1900 Kirby Mallory LEI
NORWOOD >1850 Leicester
LEI
OATES <1960 Northampton
NTH
OATES <1950 Leicester
LEI
OATES >1950 Leicester
LEI
OLPHIN 1800S Rutland
RUT
ORTON 1800S Blaby
LEI
OVER >1500 Warwickshire
WAR
OVER >1500 Leamington
WAR
OVER >1500 Hastings
SSX
PAGE ANY
Willoughby
LEI
PAINTER 1840 Lutterworth
LEI
PALLETT >1700 Mkt Bosworth
LEI
PARR 1600-1850 ANY
ANY
PAVIOUR 1880-1940 Leicester
LEI
PEASLAND 1850 Leicester
LEI
PEGG
1750-1900 Bilstone LEI
PEGG 1750-1900 Mkt Bosworth
LEI
PICK
1700-1940 Leicester LEI
PITTS
1881-2004 Leicester LEI
PORTER
1880 Breadsall
DBY
POTTER
<1895 Gloucester
GLS
POWELL
1908 Hackney
LND
PRESTON
<1900 Exton
RUT
PURSGLOVE1800-1900 Hastings/Brighton
SSX
PYATT 1850-1900S Leicester
LEI
QUEENBOROUGH18-19C Twyford LEI
QUEENBOROUGH 18-19C Earl Shilton
LEI
RAPIER
1800-1900
India
RAPIER
1800-1900 Halifax YKS
RAWLINGS 1820-1850 Stapleford LEI
REED 1880-1950 Croydon
SRY
RICHARDSONANY Wigston Magna LEI
RIDDINGTONANY Countesthorpe LEI
RILEY
ANY Any
ANY
RINGROSE
ANY Wigston Magna LEI
RINGROSE
ANY Countesthorpe LEI
RINGROSE
ANY
Kilby
LEI
ROBERTS
1880
Beds
BDF
ROBINS
1870S Whitwick
LEI
ROBINSON 1870 Aylestone
LEI
ROSS 1850-1900S Leicester
LEI
RUDKIN
ANY
Leics
LEI
RUTHERFORDC1899 Cramlington NBL
SADLER
1600-1800 Sussex SSX
SALMON
1840S Leicester
LEI
SALMON
c1812 Leicester
LEI
SALMON
1770S Skeffington LEI
March 2004
G0416
P0352
P0456
F0271
F0271
G0420
P0453
S0756
A0265
M0528
M0528
M0526
H0713
H0713
H0713
H0707
B0954
O093
O093
O093
H0714
P0453
S0757
B0958
B0968
R0321
P0465
P0465
B0968
A0265
C0606
P0458
P0456
H0719
P0352
P0456
P0459
P0459
G0417
G0417
M0526
P0352
H0714
H0714
W0646
H0714
H0714
H0714
R0325
L0289
P0457
P0456
K0189
E0162
B0958
S0767
S0767
S0767
71
SCOTT-BROWN 1700-1900Sth Yorks
YKS
H0716
SEAL
1850-1950 Sussex SSX
S0762
SEWELL
19C
Leics
LEI
R0324
SEWELL
19C
Rutland RUT
R0324
SHARPE
<1885
Leicester LEI
P0458
SHIPLEY
>1800
Leics
LEI
W0644
SHUTTLEWOOD1750-1900 Mkt Bosworth
LEI
P0465
SMITH 1890-1914
Leicester
LEI
S0758
SMITH1780 Lutterworth LEI
P0453
SMITH
1873-2004 Leicester LEI
A0265
SMITH
1800
Sileby
LEI
C0609
SMITH
<1901
Leeds
YKS E0163
SNOW
18-20C M Mowbray LEI
P0459
SNUSHALL <1842 Cambridge CAM
S0769
SNUSHALL <1842
Lincs
LIN
S0769
SOUTH
1935
Stamford LIN
S0770
SOUTH
1920
Oakham RUT
S0770
SOUTH
1925 M Mowbray LEI
S0770
SPENCER
>1800
Leics
LEI
W0644
SQUIRES
>1700 Nottingham NTT
S0757
STAFFORD 1650-1950 Gilmorton LEI
F0269
STAFFORD 1650-1950 Catthorpe
LEI
F0269
STEVENS
1820S Oundle
NTH
M0526
STEVENS
19C Leicester
LEI
M0526
STILLS
1850 Derby
DBY
C0606
SUNSHINE
1700S
Lincs
LIN
H0707
TAFT
18-19C Grantham
LIN
P0459
TAFT 18-19C M Mowbray
LEI
P0459
TAUGHT
1700-1900 Hastings SSX
P0352
TAYLOR
1816 Sileby
LEI
C0609
TEBBUTT
1890 Coventry
WAR
B0959
THOM(P)SON 1700-1850 Carlton/Mkt B'worth
LEI
M0528
THOMPSON C1899 Tanfield
DUR
E0162
THOROGOOD1800-2000 Essex
ESS
F0271
THOROGOOD1800-2000 Surrey SRY
THOROGOOD1800-2000 Suffolk SFK
THRELFELL 1840 Cumbria
CUL
TILLEY
1886 Hinckley
LEI
TOWNSEND 1700-1850 Narborough LEI
TOWNSEND <1901 Leeds
YKS
TYRES
Leics and Rutland
RUT
VINES
19-20C Oakham
RUT
VINES
19-20C Knossington LEI
WALLACE
ANY Leics
LEI
WALLACE
ANY Rutland
RUT
WAPPLES
ANY Leics
LEI
WARTNABY 1800 Oakham
RUT
WARTNABY 19C Greetham
RUT
WARTNABY 18C Rutland
RUT
WARTNABY 18C Leics
LEI
WATSON
<1892 Ravenstone LEI
WATSON
<1892 Ashby/Zouch LEI
WEBB
ANY Leicester
LEI
WEBB
ANY Barnstaple
DEV
WEST
>1800 Leics
LEI
WESTON
1870 Barlestone
LEI
WHATLEY
<1845 Leicester
LEI
WHITE
1800S
Rutland RUT
WHITE
1790
Blaby LEI
WHITE
1825 Earl Shilton
LEI
WHITE
1852 Leicester
LEI
WHITING 1800-1930 Hastings SSX
WIGNALL 1800S Wigston Magna LEI
WILKINSON 1936 Sheffield.
YKS
WILLIAMS
ANY Birmingham WAR
WOOD
<1901
Hinckley LEI
WORTHEY
1876 Willoughby
LEI
WORTHY
1875-1925 Leicester LEI
WRIGHT
1900-1950 Leicester LEI
WRIGHT1600-1850
ANY
ANY
F0271
F0271
T0310
B0962
M0525
E0163
D0310
P0459
P0459
W0647
W0647
F0269
J0206
J0206
J0206
J0206
S0773
S0773
W0649
W0649
W0644
C0606
P0458
H0707
B0962
B0962
B0962
H0715
B0954
W0645
J0201
E0163
W0645
S0756
S0757
B0958
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