The Female Psychosis part 2: Narcissism

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The Female Psychosis part 2: Narcissism
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March 15, 2014, 2:44 AM
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The Female Psychosis part 2: Narcissism
The Female Psychosis part
2: Narcissism
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There is a difference between Narcissism
and Egocentrism. Egocentrism is a cognitive
error while Narcissism is an emotional one.
It is crucial that we recognize this
distinction because both of them are similar
but at the same time Narcissism is more
complex because it is the natural
progression of Egocentrism. We have
learned from part one of this series that
Egocentrism can manifests in adolescence
in 3 ways; Imaginary Audience, Personal
Fable and Apparent Hypocrisy.
When a teenager feels that everyone is
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constantly observing and judging her
(Imaginary Audience), and then believes
that she is special because she thinks
everyone is interested in her (Personal
Fable) then she believes that she is indeed
special and should be given preferential
treatment (Apparent Hypocrisy).
Using this example, we can see how
adolescent egocentrism would evolve into
Narcissism which can then be termed as
self-aggrandizement.
I Want It All (And I Want It Now)
The core of the Narcissistic drive is the
emotion of shame.
Unlike guilt, shame is the most unbearable
emotion to narcissists because it is
pervasive personal flaw and not a misdeed.
It is so unbearable to them that they create
means to not experience it at all and in the
process they are hypersensitive to shame; if
they ever experience even the slightest
humiliation they will go into a
disproportional frenzied reaction.
Narcissism develops from being unable to
confront and cope with shame
constructively (Nathanson 1987). To the
Narcissist, it is never their fault because
admitting fault means being ashamed and
they cannot handle it.
To avoid feeling defective and insignificant,
the narcissist develops seven traits that are
common among them which are
Shamelessness, Magical Thinking,
Entitlement, Envy, Arrogance, Bad
Boundaries and Exploitation (Hotchkiss
2003: 3-27).
Shamelessness is a typical trait and
manifests as being unconscientious, amoral,
in self-denial, constant blaming and furious
outbursts. They appear cold but they have
no self-control and erupt by the smallest of
affronts. Below is an example in Malaysia
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where two girls went berserk just because
they could not get the beer they wanted.
FunnyMalaysia.net (2013)
Magical Thinking is a way for the narcissist
to distort reality and create the fantasy of
grandiosity and omnipotence either within
themselves or within others they control.
Margot Medhurt founder of Yours Sincerely
with 30 years’ experience in the dating
industry noted the rise of women with a
wide discrepancy between how they
perceive themselves and how others see
them (Taylor 2009). She stated that these
women were often very plain but see
themselves as fabulous and exceptional
people. She commented that “these
women, however, are unable to get their
heads around the fact that the rest of the
world might not share their distorted,
inflated view they have of themselves.”
Magical Thinking also manifests whereby
the narcissists transfer the shameful
feelings of themselves to others in what is
termed as ‘projection’ or shame-dumping.
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Indeed, slut-shaming which is a primarily a
girl-on-girl behavior is the projection of
one’s own shameful feelings of
inadequacies.
Because they view themselves as special,
Narcissists also have an unreasonable sense
of Entitlement, believing they are always
deserving of preferential treatment and
automatic compliance. Noncompliance and
defiance is seen as a threat on the
narcissists’ perceived authority and is met
with anger at the person who is viewed as
being difficult and awkward. Medhurt
elaborated about her clients, “they
invariably reject every guy’s profile but if a
guy rejects their profile, there is all hell to
pay,” and then went on further to say,
“they often become indignant and angry
towards me, demanding to know why a guy
dared to turn them down.”
Below is a good commentary on the
delusion of self-entitlement.
The Critical G (hey, it’s a good video.)
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For those who did not notice, I clue you in
to the 3 narcissistic traits of
Shamelessness, Magical Thinking and
Entitlement as the progression of Imaginary
Audience (Magical Thinking), Personal Fable
(Entitlement) and Apparent Hypocrisy
(Shamelessness).
Imaginary Audience --> Magical Thinking
(Everyone is looking at me) --> (Of course
they’d look at me!)
Personal Fable --> Entitlement
(I’m special) --> (I’m Worth It!)
Apparent Hypocrisy --> Shamelessness
(I’m a winner so I don’t need to try) -->
(I’m a winner so I do whatever I want)
We can see the transference from mental to
emotional, how egocentrism evolves into
narcissism. It is worth point out that the
person does not lose her egocentrism even
though it has mutated; she still retains her
it because it is a cognitive feature whilst
narcissism is an emotional feature. Hence a
person can be both egocentric and
narcissistic at the same time and they
usually are.
Moving on, the next narcissistic trait is Envy
which I could write an entire article
altogether, but I won’t. Envy is an emotion
transformation experienced when the selfworth is compared against another and
arriving at a conclusion motivated by the
effects of shame (Lamia 2013).
To put it another way, you’re not ‘all that’
compare to that person and it makes you
feel insecure and worthless. Unlike jealousy,
envy is directed towards others; either
wanting their attributes, success and
possessions, or wanting the other person to
lose it all – ‘if I don’t have it, you can’t
either’. This explains why women always
claim the victim of supposed male privileges
because they want the wealth and influence
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that powerful figures have.
Next, Arrogance is the belief that the
narcissist is always better than others or
she is worthless. If she is feeling deflated,
she will vitiate, denigrate and discredit
others to inflate herself again. This is the
reason narcissists are domineering,
judgmental and despotic, which is to secure
their status that will guard them from their
dysfunctions and shame.
Arrogant narcissist will only compete when
the outcome is favorable, they fight in fields
where they can shine without risk or effort
and in areas where they are less skilled
they resort to petty one-upmanship to
sustain a sense of superiority. This could
explain why women shy away from
competition especially in the workplace and
resort to gender discrimination when they
get passed over for promotion.
Narcissists are also bad at with Boundaries,
in the sense that they do not recognize
personal space and often intrude upon
them. Anita Sarkeesian’s war against the
male spaces of Gaming Industry is a good
example of this. To the narcissist, you exist
for them or you don’t at all. Now
Shamelessness, Entitlement and Magical
Thinking are traits that the narcissist feels
about herself. Arrogance, Envy and
Boundaries are traits that the narcissist feel
and project onto others. Here is how it
looks;
Imaginary Audience -- Everyone is
looking at me
|
Magical Thinking -- Of course they’re
looking at me!
|
Envy -- They shouldn’t be looking at her!
She’s such a slut!
---------------------------------------------------------Personal Fable -- I’m special
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Entitlement -- I’m Worth It!
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Arrogance -- How dare you reject me!
---------------------------------------------------------------Apparent Hypocrisy -- I’m a winner so I
don’t have to try
|
Shamelessness – I’m a winner so I do
whatever I want
|
Bad Boundaries -- I can do whatever, to
whomever I want
So in essence, Narcissists believes that
everything is ‘Mine.’
Here is a video of a narcissistic girlfriend
from Malaysia. Please ignore the
emasculated boyfriend; he is after all a Blue
pill beta male. Note that the girl exhibits
Arrogance by speaking down to the
boyfriend as if she’s superior, her envy of
others with money by bringing-up her
boyfriend’s financial inadequacies as well as
her Bad Boundaries by having this
argument in public without shame.
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Jazz Wei (2014)
The culmination of all of this intricate details
is the last and most dangerous of all
Narcissistic traits; Exploitation which is the
manipulation and utilization of others
without concern for their interests or
wellbeing. This is it folks, the coup de grace
of Narcissism;
Imaginary Audience -- Everyone is
looking at me
|
Magical Thinking -- Of course they’re
looking at me!
|
Envy -- They shouldn’t be looking at her!
She’s such a slut!
|
Exploit -- Slut-Shaming and “I’ll fuck her
boyfriend!”
---------------------------------------------------------------Personal Fable -- I’m special
|
Entitlement -- I’m Worth It!
|
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Arrogance -- How dare you reject me!
|
Exploit -- I’ll fuck random men then cry
rape in the morning.
------------------------------------------------------------------------Apparent Hypocrisy -- I’m a winner so I
don’t have to try
|
Shamelessness – I’m a winner so I do
whatever I want
|
Bad Boundaries -- I can do whatever, to
whomever I want
|
Exploit – I’ll marry you, have your kids
then divorce you for alimony
Booyah.
And we know women frequently do this
because we always hear stories like how “I
slept with my friend’s husband” (Hensley
2014). In this day and age of consent, no
woman can blame the man for seducing her
unless she wanted him to. It is simply
women on a power-trip to prove that she
can steal another woman’s lover.
We can also observe the number of falserape accusations; Rumney puts the number
of false-rape accusations at 10-50% (Frost
2013) while Kanin estimated it at 40%
(1994: 81). And of course the most
damning statistics of all and the nail in
coffin as it were, the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention (2013) found that
divorce rate in the United States is 50% in
2011 and we know that women initiated
divorce 68.9% for all cases (Saad 2013).
The common denominator in all three
instances above is women, not men.
You’re So Vain
But how do we know that women have
always been this Narcissistic? Consider the
history of the Women’s Suffragette
Movement of 1906. In England, voting
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rights were historically linked to land
ownership established by King Henry VI in
1432; you could only vote if you owned
enough property.
In the late 19th century to early 20th
century, women were only concern about
the women’s rights to vote, citing that it is
discrimination against women. But before
the voting reform 1918, only 4 out of 10
men could vote and after the Equal
Franchise Act of 1928 equal rights to vote
was established. Voting rights were never
about gender discrimination; it was about
class discrimination.
The suffragettes had made it all about
women at a time when even men could not
vote (manwomanmyth, 2010). These
shameless, entitled and self-deluded women
could only see their own wants, envied only
those that had it and exploited men by
claiming male privileges to get it.
And this was also during the time of the
First World War where men who could not
vote were sent to die by the hundreds of
thousands. If suffragettes were really
concerned with equal rights, why did they
not fight for the rights to vote for these
men? Instead feminists such as Emmeline
Pankhurst and her daughter Christabel
shamed men into going to war by giving
them ‘white feathers’ (Donald, 1998).
Feminists did not want equal voting rights
for all men and women; feminists wanted
voting rights for only women and for the
men to just die.
Feminism is Narcissism.
As Karen Straughan (2013) would say, “the
idea of male privilege is so fucking bogus.
Privileges are entitlements; what men have
had through history wasn’t entitlements
because it was a necessary element of
performing their obligations. A tool handed
to them because it was needed by men in
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order to fulfill their legally, economically
and socially forced obligation to women and
children; Not Because Penis!”
If men were going to die for their country,
then they should have at least the right to
vote in their country because along with
duty comes the rights to facilitate that duty.
The British Women’s Suffragettes do not
have obligations or duties to anyone; all
they have done for England is being baby
factories in the comfort of their husbands
who provided and died for them. To think
that women were oppressed only highlights
their apparent grandiose narcissistic
fantasy.
Love Me Tender
Right about now, the women will be
screaming “but men are narcissist too.” Yes,
obviously any gender can be narcissistic
and there are degrees to how narcissistic a
person can be. What I’m pointing out is the
prevalence of female narcissism which is
even more endemic due to one reason;
Narcissistic Supply which is the narcissistic
need for attention whether it be celebrity or
notoriety (Vaknin n.d.).
It explains why women are cam whores,
loves to gossip and wanting to reveal and
publicize their promiscuity. We can see
numerous examples of this on Facebook,
Twitter and Youtube. It is also the reason
women have friend-zones with friends who
functions as emotional tampons. These
people serve as mere appliances that exist
for the gratification of the narcissists
(Kreger 2011). In fact, women have a vast
abundance of Narcissistic Supply not only
from men, but also their sisterhood where
they supply each other that craving for
attention.
Men do not have a large pool of Narcissistic
Supply and we need to work to get
attention. Men compete for recognition and
we often shoot down other men whether we
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realize it or not. And when we do come
across narcissistic men; whether it is our
employer, father, brother, politician,
religious figures, celebrities or whatnot; we
often criticize them, fight them and defy
those in positions of power. Men do not
simply give other men flagrant attention.
We reward other men when they are
deserving of it; that is the nature of
competition and women do not understand
this because they constantly get the Pussy
Pass on their dysfunctions such as their
inherent narcissism.
Hence, we can say with good conscience
that there are not many men who can be
narcissists but there are sure a lot of
women who are.
Okay, now I have to address the issue of
self-love and healthy narcissism. There are
psychiatrists and psychologists who believe
that moderate narcissism is healthy
(Whitbourne 2012). They state that
narcissism could be positive and that people
with a healthy narcissism lead a healthier
lifestyle.
This is the kind of quote-mining that you
find in women’s magazine articles that
perpetuates a woman’s unreasonable sense
of entitlement. Why? Because women would
only read the headline and say to
themselves “Oh, it’s okay to be
narcissistic!” Completely taking things out
of context and seeing only what they want
to see. What psychiatrists and psychologists
are referring to here is Self-Confidence and
Self-Image and this leads back to how we
deal with our naturally occurring
egocentrism.
It is how we deal with our perception of our
surroundings in terms of Imaginary
Audience, Personal Fable and Apparent
Hypocrisy. A person with good SelfConfidence and Self-Image correctly gauges
his own perception of himself against that
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of the public; in other words men do not
give a shit what other people think of him
as long as he enjoys doing his thing and
doing it well.
Men attach our confidence and image to the
work that we do and not the perception
people have of us. Women on the other
hand, do care very much not what people
think but that people are thinking of them.
Women attach their confidence and image
to their belief of how many people perceive
them.
And we know this is true because women
use communication to enhance social
connections and relationships (Merchant, K.
2012: 17). Women use communication to
get to know more people with the purpose
of adding them to their own pool of
Narcissistic Supply.
The woman does not care who these people
are as long as they notice her; and this is
why you see women having 1,000 friends,
followers and subscribers on Facebook,
Twitter and Youtube; this is why women
gossip and tell secrets about their BFF’s;
this is why women can simply believe and
spread lies about other people because it is
not about others; it is always about their
narcissistic need, it is always about them.
So yes, most if not all women are
narcissists whether if it is a little bit or full
blown.
Continued in The Female Psychosis part 3:
Solipsism.
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I am not convinced that the suffragette movement
was hypocritical in wanting votes for women and not
in wanting votes for poor men. AFAIK, It was a
movement of wealthy women, women with the leisure
to chain themselves to public buildings and a
guarantee that the powers that be would not deal with
them as they would deal with a poor woman doing the
same thing. Most likely they weren't after votes for all
women, just votes for those of their social and
economic class.
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I am not convinced that the suffragette
movement was hypocritical in wanting votes for
women and not in wanting votes for poor men.
AFAIK, It was a movement of wealthy women,
women with the leisure to chain themselves to
public buildings and a guarantee that the
powers that be would not deal with them as
they would deal with a poor woman doing the
same thing. Most likely they weren't after votes
for all women, just votes for those of their
social and economic class.
Thank you Numbat, I used the suffragettes as an
example not for hypocrisy per se but to highlight their
Envy and Arrogance at those who they perceive as to
have male privilege. Perhaps I phrased it wrong
(which I so often do and hence why I need comments
and criticism like yours.)
Do you know a better example I can use? I'll add you
as a contributor
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I am not convinced that the suffragette
movement was hypocritical in wanting votes for
women and not in wanting votes for poor men.
AFAIK, It was a movement of wealthy women,
women with the leisure to chain themselves to
public buildings and a guarantee that the
powers that be would not deal with them as
they would deal with a poor woman doing the
same thing. Most likely they weren't after votes
for all women, just votes for those of their
social and economic class.
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I hear what you're saying, but I think the broader
point is that feminists constantly appoint to
themselves undeserved moral authority. What Kyo is
showing is that their actions are strictly about creating
a sociological in-group dynamic, furthering their own
interests in a narrow way and ignoring (and in my
experience) often displaying contempt for others who
suffer a similar plight. Who knows if wealthy
suffragettes had different motives; they supported the
cause and ultimately won specific concessions for
women. At its very beginning, the movement had
tunnel vision about advancing their own, and
shunning the rest.
Let me give an manifestation of that mentality. Today,
more women in the US attend college than men. YET,
feminists continue to have campaigns encouraging
women to attend college and there are far more
scholarships for women to attend college than men.
Even after they've "won the war", they continue to
press for their own advancement at the expense of
men. Why is this? Because feminism was never about
human rights or doing what's right or moral, not even
from the beginning; it was a collective group
strategy for women to better their own lives,
even at the expense of others. They are trying to
prove that coordinated collectivism can outmuscle the
male notion of individualism. We are the sociological
"others" in this case. It's well past time to call
feminism out as a naked power grab by women - an
attempt to use their collective force to overpower
men, who are disunited and atomized. I think Kyo's
article does a good job of showing the nature of this
pernicious group strategy, right from the beginning.
Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister
guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums-> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)
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