Beverly Hills Times, April 2012
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Beverly Hills Times, April 2012
APRIL TO GO_Beverly Hills Times Mag. 4/16/12 3:02 PM Page 1 TIMES News Entertainment Business Nightlife BEV ERLY H I LLS Magic Johnson’s L.A. Premier of his HIV/AIDS docu-drama “The Announcement” Supermodel Amber Valletta Emcees for Big Brothers Big Sisters Fashion Show Financial Guru MICHAEL J. KRUPIN Offers One Easy Step to protect your cash and assets Artist Extraordinaire Jack Armstrong unveils his $3 million Cosmic Harley APRIL TO GO_Beverly Hills Times Mag. 4/13/12 6:45 PM Page 20 Beverly Hills Financial Heavy Weight Michael J. Krupin a big player on the chess board of life.... LITERALLY! By Suzanne Takowsky Photography by David Sobel 20 // bhtmag.com // APRIL TO GO_Beverly Hills Times Mag. 4/13/12 6:52 PM Page 21 H aving spent my life perfecting my craft— write interesting stories AND have people read them—I found it shocking weeks ago when someone brought to my attention that I was in the entertainment business. ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS? I protested that I do not write entertainment; that my goal as a journalist is to offer interestingly, informative articles. WHAT? Mission NOT accomplished? Reluctantly, I re-examined what my power with the pen brings forth and found myself considering three things: #1. Out of all the places I could have lived and worked I chose LA; specifically Beverly Hills. Not exactly a political mecca or hard news arena like Washington. And I write for the Beverly Hills Times magazine— not the Wall Street Journal. Translation: So almost “by accident” I live and work in the “entertainment” capitol of the world. BIG DEAL! #2. I ABSOLUTELY DO bring cutting-edge, newsworthy stories to my readers. BUT according to my staff, my stories gravitate toward how to stay looking young and skinny and live a fabulous life forever. WHO in Beverly Hills doesn’t think this is VITAL news? #3. That I avoid writing stories that might bring readers “down”—SO NOT TRUE. I’m a staunch animal rights activist and include stories about rescuing animals and bettering their lives (stories and photos can be shocking!). Although my staff admits this to be true, they “alerted” me to the fact I preach more on how people can better the lives of animals, than on how people can better their own lives—that doesn’t revolve around beauty, health and fitness, or how to spring clean your brain and avoid a trip to rehab. OMG! So here we go people. A serious, interesting, hardhitting, eye-opening look into how to better your life that doesn’t revolve around how you look, but how to achieve peace of mind. The topic will NOT bring you down, but will change your perspective on two things NONE of us can run or hide from: life and death. And this article will shock you from the “deep sleep” of hoping to secure your financial future (and that of your family) by winning the lottery, buying a big house or stashing cash in a savings account for a rainy day. And who better for me to profile for this story, than a man whose business is educating adults on HOW to become responsible, independent grown-ups. Michael J. Krupin rose from the depths of poverty with a fire in his belly to change his life. He was 17years-old when he left the backwoods of a tiny town —Salem, Virginia to make something of his life that he could be proud of. He never went back. Home had been a two-room, small house where he lived with his sister, mother, father, grandmother and grandfather; all crowded in together. Although Mike took with him unresolved memories of a childhood filled with hardship and emotional void brought on by parents who were not supportive or nurturing in his life; he left behind the negative tapes that so often play in our heads telling us what we CAN’T do. He was on a mission to find out what he COULD do. Mike also took one more thing with him on his journey: the guts to not only survive, but thrive and succeed in a world that rarely gives a second chance at a new beginning. Mike Krupin is legendary in the wealth distribution, financial advisory, insurance industry. With 41-years in the business world in his back pocket, there isn’t much he doesn’t know, or can’t do. He is a serious guy who does serious business, and he has built an empire educating people on how to “reorganize” their thought process to make their lives work for them. AS OPPOSED to continuing to run on a rat wheel that can and does dead end in financial disaster. I had to admit to him that winning the BIG LOTTO definitely has a place in my retirement/estate planning package. Smirk if you want to, but you’ve all thought about it, and bought Lotto tickets too!!!! Could this be the most serious, interesting and life-preserving journalistic article I’ve ever written? Yes indeed, it just might be! Especially now in these uncertain times when everything we’ve worked for is riding on the decisions we make today, I don’t know one person who won’t go for some FREE financial “reorganization” tips from an expert whose business is to protect what we have built, and keep our hard earned dollars in our pockets. But what about the “wealth distribution” part? I considered if that would also appeal to readers. I know that whenever I hear Suzy Orman or some CNN expert talk about wealth building/distribution it sounds interesting, but I’m forced to contemplate the relevancy of “wealth distribution” in my own life (maybe you’ve felt the same way). I mean how many of us have wealth to redistribute? And on the topic of life and disability insurance; are people up for that right now? Well, after you read this article you probably will be. As a single, working mother of three, I’ve spent years building a business that I hope continues to provide for my kids after I’m gone. Not that I plan to “check out” anytime soon because although my life is hectic and my work stressful, I’m as healthy as a work horse. Oye Vey what a glamorous comparison! But true. Nevertheless, because this is how I’ve always thought—that nothing is going to happen to me—maybe there are a few things I need to reconsider; maybe there are a few things we all should reconsider. Occasionally, we need to step out of “our world” and let someone with a new and educated perspective give us a qualified and unbiased view of ways to make our lives better; ways we never considered. Or maybe ways we considered, but never thought we could do. The day I walked into Mike’s Beverly Hills office for our interview (he also has offices in Richmond, Virginia and New York) the first thing that caught my eye was the array of exotic fish having a blast in a large, high tech tank they call “home.” Next...all of the “Thank you for your help and guidance” notes splashed across photos of superstars, athletes and tons of recognizable faces from every field you can imagine. Mike is extremely successful at what he does because he is working with an unbeatable team: his intelligence and his compassion for others. He is no-nonsense when it comes to business, but easy to talk to and non-judgmental. These are incredibly important when you’re detailing a laundry list of the hits and misses in your life, and need a sympathetic ear to evaluate your next move. I asked straight forward questions I thought everyone would want answers to, and even spilled the beans on personal concerns regarding my business, and how to best help my kids down the road. As a single parent, paying the bills and helping my kids launch into lives and careers of their own, these things are always on my mind. I’m sure many of you are in the same boat. Mike’s first sentence set the tone for the interview: “The ONLY thing I require from clients is they are truthful with me about their health, finances and intention with their families; I take care of the rest.” DAMN—one minute into the interview and I was already stuck between a rock and a hard place. So in keeping with his honesty-request-business-mantra, FIRST QUESTION ST: HELP? MK: Each person has specific needs and desires for their money and assets. What are yours? ST: To have money for retirement and leave every penny and asset I have to my kids if something happens to me. Do you help regular people or are your clients only the wealthy? MK: Although I have a reputation for helping high net worth individuals and families reorganize life insurance options for estate planning, I help 99% of everyone who walks through my door regardless of whether they are a doctor, actor, business owner, attorney, politician, school teacher, senior citizen or individual from another country who lives in the United States. If you want financial independence into retirement and to protect your assets for yourself and loved ones —you need a plan to accomplish these goals. We spend our lives working to take care of ourselves and our families. But with all the fine print that gets glossed over in financial/retirement/insurance/estate protection solutions, people often discover that what they thought would take care of them when they retire, or take care of their heirs when they pass on—isn’t there. Without a financial plan for your life and, one in place in case of your death, every day is a crap shoot with you dreading what’s around the corner. Without a financial plan for your life and one in place in case of your death, everyday is a crap shoot with you dreading what’s around the corner. People don’t realize they have it within their power to live—rather than fear life. But hindsight is always better than NOWsight. Why live in fear hoping the unthinkable won’t happen? Then, face disaster if it does. People don’t understand they have it in their power to live, rather than fear life. But hindsight is always better than NOWsight. Why live in fear hoping the unthinkable won’t happen, or that things will fall into place when the time comes? Put in place NOW a retirement plan to accommodate your lifestyle later. Protect yourself NOW in case a disability appears later. Act NOW when you have a voice to protect those you love when you pass on. Prepare as best you can for what could happen; if it doesn’t terrific. But if it does...you have in place what you need to make any transition an effective one for all involved. Not one of us knows what tomorrow might bring. continued page 22 // bhtmag.com // 21 APRIL TO GO_Beverly Hills Times Mag. 4/13/12 6:53 PM Page 22 "In this economic climate people know that liquidity is not to be taken for granted. Estate planning relies on longevity and market performance— neither of which we have any control over. High net worth clients use life insurance to replace or supplement liquid assets that plummeted in value during the recent downturn such as real estate properties, stocks, mutual funds, business holdings... as well as to provide the cash needed to pay estate tax and cover other wealth transfer costs. New and more efficient policies benefit clients in achieving these objectives at a greatly reduced cost. Some people don’t understand the leverage life insurance offers, but once it is explained to them a light goes off. Life insurance is the only financial instrument that comes with guarantees: a secured retirement, leverage with wealth transfer, it preserves assets and, it is tax free cash!” 22 // bhtmag.com // APRIL TO GO_Beverly Hills Times Mag. 4/13/12 6:58 PM Page 23 It’s true what Mike says. People are running on FEAR. Fear from what happened or could happen. Fear of not being able to make money. People everywhere are worried; some are traumatized because due to financial mismanagement and bad estate planning have lost everything. After listening to Mike, I know that I’m not fully prepared. My excuse is always I’m “too busy” to sit down with an advisor, go over my options and make a workable plan that fits my life. That has to change! Because If I don’t make it a priority to take care of myself and my family with good planning now, then regardless of how hard I work, it won’t mean anything if something happens I’m not prepared for. This whole “prepared” thing seems to be less about net worth and more about common sense. ST: You led a sheltered life in a small town. What and who prepared you to go out into the big world of business? How did you get so smart? MK: (Smiles). My father hardly said a word to me or anyone. Thelma, my mother talked a lot, but we didn’t discuss school, my future or what I wanted to do. What taught me about life was sports: football, baseball and wrestling, especially wrestling. Sports taught me about bonding and today, my dearest friends are still the 10 guys I went to high school with, played sports with and graduated with. We talk every day. Sports made me a disciplined person. My daily routine hasn’t changed in years. I get up at 5:00 a.m; work out, and I’m in the office by 7:00-7:30; seven days a week—I don't need an alarm clock to get up. This might sound funny, but I'm afraid if I change anything it could all fall apart. I mean I know it's not going to fall apart, but still I feel I have to stick with a routine that’s been good for me. I feel as long as I stay disciplined and, continue to do the things that got me here, then it's all going to be good. It's all going to be great. And great it is! Ranked among the 1% of life insurance advisors in the wealth redistribution industry, Mike’s clients are the Who’s Who of the rich and famous. Incredibly, his breakneck work schedule realizes his firm more than $2 billion dollars a year in life insurance/estate planning policies. A distinguished member and recipient of numerous awards from organizations including, National Association of Life Underwriters, Million Dollar Roundtable, National Association of Financial Advisors and International Association of Registered Financial Planners among others, have bestowed on him an enviable edge in his industry. Mike works with some of the most recognized law firms, business managers and financial advisors in the world to protect the interests of their super sonic, haut monde clients. A highly-sought after speaker, his career has expanded internationally into teaching seminars that instruct next generation professionals not just the value of writing a policy, but how to foster relationships that span decades with trustworthy, skilled and ingenious know-how—keeping clients happy, protected and in the black. ST: It’s incredible what you’ve accomplished in such a competitive business, and in Beverly Hills! Some say it’s luck or fate… what do you think? MK: Absolutely, I’m fortunate to be here, and I’ve found that a southern gentleman in Beverly Hills does very well. But I came with the same traits I had in Virginia. Yes, ma'am. No, ma'am. Thank you notes. Follow up. Do what you say you'll do. Be available. Be accessible. Be polite and build a relationship. People notice that I'm a nice person. Because of where I came from, I’m humble and I go out of my way to help people and I do whatever it takes to accomplish whatever my clients need. They see it and they appreciate it. And they like me for it. I’m a good guy, and I’ve been that way my whole life. I don't like confrontation; I'll address it and try to find a solution that's fair to everybody and then move forward. I don't spend time fighting off problems or postponing a complication. If there is an obstacle…what is it? I want to address it and move on. Another thing I don't dwell on is the past. Bad things happen in the past. But they happen. When the economy collapsed in 2008, it affected everyone. It happened, but let's go forward. That's all that counts. The future. The next day. I'm still here. I tell my staff and people I train in seminars; be nice to people. Be truthful and always put their best interests first. That's the key. Put their best interests first. And it works. Word gets around and the next thing you know—you have clients. ST: Let’s talk about ‘those clients’. It’s your job to help them avoid mistakes that could be disastrous. Does everyone listen to what you tell them? What mistakes do people make with life insurance? MK: With regard to the first part of your question; no not everyone listens to what I tell them. But those with the most to lose…they almost always listen. About the common mistakes people make with life insurance. Well, a big one is that they apply to one carrier, unaware that one company underwrites a person completely differently than another. For a client that means the difference between getting accepted, or not if a medical condition is involved. Once a person is declined by a company, it deters other companies from accepting them because medical information stays on the MIB (Medical Insurance Board) for five years. Also a “decline” might force a client to pay considerably more for a policy they could have secured for much less with another carrier. Because I have access to 50 different insurance and financial companies, and have relationships with these people that span 40 years—I don’t let my clients get declined. Problem solved. Another mistake I see is people don’t have their insurance set up correctly and don’t realize how ownership, beneficiary designations and product selection of their policy can dramatically impact the benefit and value of their policy. The most damaging to any estate planning program is improper disposition of assets. There are other mistakes but these create disastrous circumstances. ST: Poor and from the mountains of Virginia; did you ever think you would end up a millionaire? MK: Never. I slept on a rollaway bed and my sister had a rollaway bed with mom and dad. We didn't have a shower; we had to heat water on the stove if we wanted to take a bath. It was my job everyday to bring coal in from an alley to put in the stove. My parents and grandparents worked in a foundry— everybody worked in that foundry—but we never had any money. Sports scholarships not academics gave me a way out because I was a C-student in school. No one in my family ever read a book, so there wasn’t a book in the house to read. I am the only one who graduated from high school. In my senior year I had about 15 sports scholarships to places like Miami, but couldn’t get accepted because I needed 800 on my SAT scores...when I took the test I got 790; no college would take me. My high school coach called St. Christopher’s Prep School in Richmond, Virginia and said…“We have a great student. If you give him a chance to get in I think it would benefit everybody.” I had an interview at the school the next day. I went home and told Thelma… “Mama I’m leaving,” she said “Mike where are you going?” I replied, “I’m going to Richmond, Virginia to see if I can get in this boarding school so I can go to college.” She asked, “How are you getting there?” I said, “I’m going to hitch hike.” I put on a clip-on tie, a blue blazer, the only one I ever had, got on the freeway and hitch hiked. A guy in the army on his way to Norfolk, Virginia picked me up. I still don't know where he dropped me off, but I asked about 100 people how to get to St. Christopher's Prep School. The headmaster, football director, athletic director all came to greet me. Everything was, “Mr. Krupin”; I took the entrance exam and waited in the library. Finally, they walked in and looked at me and said, “Mr. Krupin, we must tell you that's the worst entrance exam we have ever seen. That being said, we feel if we do not accept you... you would never make it to any college, son.” I said, “Excuse me sir does that mean I'm in?” The football coach said, “Yes. Football practice starts Monday.” Incredibly, I discovered 45-years later at a football reunion something I never knew. By then the headmaster was in his 80s, and also at the reunion. I was retelling the story of how I got into the school to my buddies when the headmaster got up from the table and said, “Mr. Krupin” and I said, “Yes sir,” and he says in front of everyone…“I graded that paper and I must tell you, you didn't know a lot. And all you wrote the essay on was football, but the last sentence is what got you into college.” Everybody is looking at him and at me because I never knew anything about what he was saying. Then he says, ”The last thing you said on that essay was, "I've learned one thing about football. If you get knocked on the ground, you better get up." Then he said... “That’s what got you in.” ST: After you left home you never looked back; what about your family; you never went back? MK: Never. I didn't see any reason to go back. It's funny. I don't know. My parents never came to visit me the whole year I was in boarding school at St. Christopher's or when I was in college. My sister, Donnabell got married when she was 17; about a year before I left for school and moved away. I remember the funeral when Thelma died, my sister came and we were talking; I hadn't seen my sister in 20 years. She said, ‘Michael, wasn't it so sad we grew up so poor?’ I looked at her and said, “I didn't know we were poor." This was a moment when two siblings are together looking at life in a different way. She said, "Well, why do you think I got married so young?” I said…"How do I know? All I knew was that I had more room in the house when you left and right after you left—I left.” Then Mike says something quite interesting… “But I had a good childhood,” and he says it with a quiet, humble, unspoken sadness as if he needs to continued page 24 // bhtmag.com // 23 APRIL TO GO_Beverly Hills Times Mag. 4/24/12 10:42 AM Page 24 say it out loud to convince himself that maybe it wasn’t as bad as he remembers. And in that moment he also has a need to comfort me, and let me know without saying it that...”Hey...I’m OK”... that I shouldn’t feel bad—because he made it! He made it through his past and found a way to reconcile what happened in his childhood. There is no doubt Mike Krupin is a self-made man in every way; business the least of it. Even in the midst of obvious sadness and what I imagine are painful memories of being denied the emotional connection that we are told parents and familes should have...he is offering his own resolution to keep him connected to his roots. Bryan and Ashley Krupin at the office in Beverly Hills, California ST: You were independent so early and wanted out of your “old” life badly; almost for survival. MK: Salem, Virginia is such a small town. No one ever leaves; grandparents are there, parents, kids —everyone stays. The foundry where my grandparents and parents worked no longer exists, so I’m not sure what people there do for work, but they are still there. I just remember something telling me: Look Mike, if you stay in Salem you’re going to be just like your parents. You’re going to be just like everybody else. You've got to figure a way out. There's got to be more to life than what's in Salem, Virginia. After I got out of St. Christopher's I went to Hampden-Sydney college, a private allmale institution established in 1776, and after about a year, the headmaster came and said, "You know, Mike, you have been here for a year and no tuition has been paid for you." And I go... "I know." He said, "Well, we are going to let you pay us back after you graduate from college.” I said, “I like that.” And, I signed my very first promissory note. I didn’t even know what it meant. But when I was able...I paid it back. Mike has been married 36-years to his wife Marti and they have two children—adults now. Bryan is 38, and the managing partner at their Beverly Hills firm. Daughter, Ashley, 32, also works with her father and brother as director of business development and chief marketing strategist in their New York office. Bryan lives in Manhattan Beach, California with his wife Zena and their two children, 5-year-old son Harrison and 3-year-old daughter Tatum. The day we did their photo shoot in the Beverly Hills office, it was apparent that Bryan and Ashley are very proud of their father, and both feel fortunate to work along side of him. "My dad and I are best friends," Bryan said. “There's no better experience you can have than working with your mentor or your idol, or in my case, my dad—all the above. We went out on sales appointments together. He taught me everything I know. You can't replicate that...you can't pay for that kind of training and that kind of mentorship.” Mike with Bryan in their New York office; one of their favorite photos together with the Twin Towers backdrop. 24 // bhtmag.com // ST: Looking back at your own childhood and now at the relationship you have with your children, how does that make you feel? MK: I'm so very lucky. I have both my children in the family business, and we are very close. The great thing is they grew up watching me. My work is my passion and I love what I do. All my friends come as a result of that. Bryan and Ashley grew up in that environment and that's why they are very successful in this business. I believe if you follow your passion, positive energy will lead to success in the workplace and strong relationships in and outside of the office. Fortunately, I have found my passion in business, and it’s even better than I imagined because I am working with my two children to make it a success.” Possibly because of the non-existent amenities throughout his own childhood, Mike makes it a priority to help others achieve a better life. For years he has supported integral health organizations such as the American Diabetes Association where he was named, "Father of the Year," and in 2006, he and Marti, along with Ashley and Bryan, formed the Krupin Family Foundation to support programs for education, children’s cancer and healthcare. Among its many other gifts, the Foundation contributed $1 million for a new gymnasium at Mike’s Alma Mater, Hampden-Sydney college. Mike and Marti split their time between residences in Beverly Hills, Richmond, Virginia and New York where they visit family and friends, and Mike oversees his businesses. ST: It’s easy to see how you, Ashley, Bryan and all those in the insurance industry have the scoop on the ins and outs and what we should do and what works and what needs to be re-organized. But how does a regular person keep up on what they need to do? MK: Buying life insurance and how much you buy depends on your age, when you buy it, and why you buy it. Many people still don’t know you can buy life insurance in a pension plan, and it is income tax free! Take disability insurance. This is a huge topic and one people tend to avoid because the thought of being disabled is terrifying. But what’s our greatest asset? Cash flow. How do we get cash flow? We work. But what happens if we become disabled and can’t work? Then what? The chances of becoming disabled are three times greater than dying. If you become disabled everything stops in your life. Your 401(k) stops. Your pension fund stops. Your stock options stop. Yet...everything else in your life continues like the need to pay living expenses: rent, food, medical bills; they continue no matter what. Is it worth it to make certain your cash flow is uninterrupted in case you can no longer work? You tell me. There is only instrument that compensates for this—life insurance. A new tax law came into effect in January specific for a foreign national who comes into California and buys a house. Let’s say he/she buys a $10 million‑dollar house. Well, that person is not a United States citizen so there is no tax exemption upon death. Say the house was paid for in cash and he/she dies. Well the federal government wants a 35% tax—$3.5 million. When the dust settles the house will be worth less than half of what it was purchased for; half of what the purchaser thought his/her heirs would receive. There is only one instrument that bypasses this; life insurance. Life insurance offers the taxdeferred tax growth of a policy’s cash value, multiple tax benefits, income-tax free distribution of death benefit proceeds—and it offers tax-free, immediate cash. APRIL TO GO_Beverly Hills Times Mag. 4/13/12 7:04 PM Page 25 ST: I’ve learned so much from this interview. But I have to bring the dragon out of the closet and ask: Why choose a business that...well you know some think has a reputation that it just takes their money and they get nothing out of it, so why get it? And I hate to say it...but I used to think that way. MK: Life insurance has that reputation? (laughs) I didn’t know. Thanks for keeping me in the loop. When people ask me to describe life insurance I say: let me tell you about an investment that the moment you buy it—it's guaranteed; the rate of return you make on this investment at your life expectancy is 8% tax free; money from this investment will arrive at the exact moment it's needed—in cash. Interested? They say, “There's no such investment, right?” I go—you're wrong. It's called life insurance. The moment you buy it...it starts earning you money. Life insurance is one of the greatest financial instruments invented by man. It’s a guaranteed contract not correlated to financial markets. During the financial crisis major companies didn't make it. They were taken over or went broke. Not one life insurance company went under. Not one. There has never been a claim made to a life insurance company that wasn't paid. ST: Never? MK: Never. ST: Why the bad rap then? MK: Because at one time life insurance was solely equated with death. Who wants to think about dying? High net worth people, however, see the new and varied insurance options as financial investments. Just because you buy disability insurance doesn’t mean you plan on being unable to work. Because you purchase life insurance doesn’t mean your days are numbered. We don’t know what we need until we need it! It’s never a good time to die. Sometimes you die with your assets up and sometimes you die with them down. Only one cash instrument arrives upon the death of the policy owner—life insurance. What pays death expenses, estate taxes, deficits of money mismanagement and the lifestyle obligations of those left behind? If someone loves their family, loves their wife, loves their kids ...they buy life insurance to protect them. I can tell immediately if a man loves a woman. We’re talking and he says, “I don't need life insurance; if anything happens to me—my wife can remarry.” I go well, she's 40+years old. You have three kids. You live in Beverly Hills. You really think there's a chance? Or I see a man who is not in love with his family and he says to me, “I came into the world with nothing...I've given them a good education; it's up to them.” I go okay. You don't need me. And he is out of my life. Not just for business, but because that is not the kind of man I want to hang around with. My family means everything to me, and I wouldn’t know how to be around a man who doesn’t feel the same way. ST: I see the whole planA—life and planB—death scenario. But anticipating the best (we live forever) or facing the worst (someone dies) how do you put a dollar amount of the head of someone you love? MK: That’s a very difficult and emotional question for the person taking out the policy because we’re talking about his/her possible death. The general theory is survivors are entitled to the economic value of what the deceased would have produced or accumulated during a lifetime. There is no cookie-cutter approach to the individual requirements we have. Life insurance is a strategic plan of action. It’s a very, very powerful instrument. I tell people when you die, you go into the ground. You don't want to take your assets with you. ST: Well, how do you feel about this interview? MK: Great. How do you feel I did; I’m not used to this? ST: Great, but because this is Beverly Hills...I want to title this article; how to REALLY tell if your man loves you? What do you think? (Mike smiles). What no response????? l // bhtmag.com // 25