3-29-15_Read - National Home Funeral Alliance
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3-29-15_Read - National Home Funeral Alliance
National Home Funeral Alliance Legislative Committee Conference Call Sunday March 29, 2015 (Committee members on the call: Peg Lorenz, Sarah Crews, Lucy Basler, Jerrigrace Lyons, Sandy Booth) 35 Members attended representing about 22 states and Canada. Intro. Peg Lorenz introduced the topic, Electronic Death Registration in the various states. The bottom line is that state policies must comply with the law. The law says that families can care for their loved ones after death. Policies cannot be put in place that make that illegal. Those agencies could be subject to lawsuits if they don’t rectify their language. She described the situation in Massachusetts. It began with her impromptu meeting with a funeral director, who said that electronic death registration (EDRS) was coming to Mass. Through Peg's state senator she found a contact person in the state health dept/vital records whom she could work with about the state EDRS website. The problem was that the website said nothing about families registering a death. It took about a year of very collaborative emails back and forth to establish wording that was clear about the process for families to work with the town clerk, filing a death record. Peg said she thought it was effective to cc. others on all of these emails, including the Mass. FCA representative, local funeral guides, a prominent minister, state senator/representative, etc. Show these government agencies that many others in the community are watching. Peg encouraged anyone who pursues this issue in his or her individual state to firmly insist on family rights. She said that there is information at the NHFA website, under “Legislation” that will show how each state ranks with respect to EDRS. She mentioned that there still is a problem with awkward language at the Mass. EDRS website but that families’ rights are at least prominently recognized and addressed. Question: Freddie from Florida asked if families work with the town clerk in Mass. Peg answered “yes” to this. Of course, it's different in every state. Sarah Crews: In Kansas records are filed through the health dept. in the capitol, Topeka. KS has had an EDRS running for several years. Funeral directors have access to the system. Sarah spoke with someone at the state health dept. and got to talking about how home births are registered, and deaths. Health dept. person said families can fill out a worksheet with Sarah. Sarah said this wouldn't work for all home funeral families; the system isn't accessible to them. Funeral homes have the worksheets that could be used, but others like hospitals don't have the worksheet. Sarah said she needs to continue the conversation, and will do this. Peg: suggested a strategy for Sarah – emails to state health dept. person could include links to the good Vermont and New Hampshire language. Let them know that other states have done this. Lucy Basler: Wisconsin has had EDRS for several years. You go to the County/Vital Statistics in Madison, the capitol. A woman there has been helpful. She described how to file, but it didn't work. There isn't a way to find information on the website yet, under “Family Burial of Remains” - wording is confusing at present and Lucy will pursue this. Minnesota is a breeze. In 2011 a booklet called “Choices” was put together by the MN Dept of Health, Mortuary Science Section. See the NHFA website for the direct link. Jim Bates (Texas): He and Sandy Booth attended a meeting in February with Bureau of Vital Statistics about a new EDRS system being worked on, (to replace an old one that is more than ten years old). It will allow a “green burial” process, i.e a process for home funeral families. NHFA and FCA are now established as 'stakeholders' in this, and will be kept informed as the system is developed. Roll out date is 2018. Peg: no matter at what level you are coming into with respect to EDRS in your state, you can make changes. Jerrigrace Lyons (CA): The CA Dept. of Consumer Affairs, Cemetery and Funeral Bureau put out a “Consumer Guide to Funeral and Cemetery Purchases” put out a brochure that describes home death care on p.7 They made the wording clear. Filing the death certificate has to go through Dept. of Public Health. They are helpful in Sonoma Co., but not all of the offices of vital records in the state have been helpful, some are even uncooperative. Peg: Her comment about only having phone numbers to call officials directly. There are obvious problems with this. What happens if the person you reach doesn’t have the correct information? What if they bring their own, personal prejudices and misconceptions to the call? What if there is turnover and where one worker knows the information the next one may not? Bodhi Be: in Hawaii anyone has the right to file a death certificate, but body has to be buried within 30 hours, have to connect with funeral director for refrigeration. Bodhi is now a licensed funeral director. Problem with body burial (at sea?). Hadn't been done for 50 years, so personnel had to be trained. Biggest problems for families relate to the 30 hour rule. Sarah Crews: Do cooling techniques now used extend the 30 hour limitation? Bodhi: In Hawaii need state certified refrigeration. Peg: In every other part of the country Techni ice gel packs are being used. They were invented to act as refrigerants and, in my direct experience, they have adequately cooled a body for up to five days. I believe that a case can be made that these gel packs, when used properly, qualify as a complete refrigerant and therefore would extend any 30 hour rule. Bodhi: In Hawaii EDRS access only with showing proper refrigeration. Pashta: EDRS in British Columbia is in place, but can also file with a paper process. Question about how EDRS can be managed with death occurring on a weekend. A rural home funeral guide had a problem with the authorities, after operating for a long time, was said to be “breaking the law”. Question about access to EDRS for private individuals. Peg: Families don’t have direct access to EDRS . The information must be filed by an official at some point, a primary care doctor, medical examiner, town clerk or other official. A funeral director who the family is required to pay should not be necessary. Death on a weekend is always a problem. Peg has usually waited with a family until Monday. Lucy: advice from an official in WI - if death is anticipated, go on Friday to get the transit permit, and then continue with the rest on Monday. Jerrigrace; coroner put out a message – in case of emergency, on the weekend, exception was made for Jewish family. Go to coroner to get special emergency permit for burial. Will issue other form after death occurs. Pashta: death in residential care – how to get permit to transport back home? Can't get permit over the weekend to transport. Lucy: special from to remove the body in Wisconsin Jerrigrace: don't need to have form filed before moving Joyce Mitchell (Utah): can contact state registrar to file early - $300. Dave Robles (Idaho): home funerals in state since 2002. Since they are close to Utah they have used a funeral home in Utah if death happens in that state – Funeral home prepares the forms. In Idaho there is a paper system – transport permit and Death Certificate – can fill out form ahead. Dave has worked with Joyce, they have worked with state officials when EDRs was being developed in Utah. Idaho – problem that they didn't want to add language about families because they didn't have the money to enlarge the website. Peg: if this information isn't accessible to individuals on state websites, then families are denied their rights to care for their loved ones after death. Peg mentioned nolo.com, law for all. Try entering terms “Nolo death certificate and your state” to see what comes up. Some states have great information, others not so good. You can contact Nolo if you see incomplete or wrong information. Proposal: check NHFA legislation page online, see if your state is listed and where it is in ranking. Challenge: help move your state from one level to one higher. We are encouraging everyone in each state to pursue this. Families need our help. It’s a social justice issue. Everyone deserves a choice and everyone needs accurate, accessible information to make that choice. Tom Long(CA): on CA website for EDRS you can find “EDRS modification request”. Try making a request. Peg says that she can only find that “modification request” in CA. Bodhi Be: many families want help from a funeral home, not everyone wants to do it all themselves. Peg acknowledges this is sometimes the case. She is grateful that funeral homes are there for those families that need them. Olivia (CA): Thank you for doing this. Others seconded her. Peg: we feel your support. Give us feedback, and suggestions for future topics. Stay in touch. --------------------------- ----------------------------------- ---------------------- ------------------------