MEDSTEAD & FOUR MARKS NEIGHBOURHOOD PLAN 2015 â 2028
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MEDSTEAD & FOUR MARKS NEIGHBOURHOOD PLAN 2015 â 2028
MEDSTEAD & FOUR MARKS NEIGHBOURHOOD PLAN 2015 – 2028 Draft Plan Comments April 2015 1 Draft Plan Consultation The Draft Neighbourhood Plan was put out for public Consultation on 12th March 2015. The period finished on 31st March 2015. We asked the respondees to comment on the Draft Plan how much do they agreed with the policies for: Subject The Station Hub The creation of a Wild Flower Meadow Maintaining and developing our green infrastructure Total 104 102 100 Strongly Agree 40 56 72 Agree 40 34 22 Neutral 9 10 3 Disagree 5 0 1 Strongly Disagree 11 3 3 76.92% 88.24% 94.00% Agree & Strongly agree There were 117 responses. Unfortunately one letter was misplaced between in transit between the Parish Council offices and the NP Secretary. Of these 14 made no comment, 55 made comments and 45 made observations. None Vision Policy 1 Policy 2 Policy 3 Policy 4 Policy 5 Policy 6 Policy 7 Policy 8 Policy 9 Policy 10 Policy 11 Policy 12 Bio Total 36 5 36 1 5 12 14 34 23 12 10 1 15 2 2 208 The comments were reviewed: Draft Plan Comments Comment From See Pegusus Letter Green Spaces/ SPB Pegasus Group 2 Strongly agree with the approach of maintaining green areas within the SPB but some of these, for instance the SINC next to Gloucester Close contain protected species and their viability depends upon having a green corridor to connect these areas with surrounding countryside and provide protection from predation or disturbance by domestic animals. While understanding that it is not possible to reverse previous planning approvals I think the the NP should commit the LA to energetically enforcing developer commitments to enhance hedgerows etc - which for recent developments have been promised but never delivered. Any future developments should be considered in terms of their impact on the local green infrastructure and not just on the piece of land within the planning application. The document talks about drawing the new SPB to stop "backbuilding" but this protection should be extended to green corridors - ancient hedgerows etc. to protect their viability. The cumulative impact of many planning decisions will destroy our natural habitat. Martin Evans Dear Sirs I refer to the proposed amendments to the SPB which were displayed during the consultation on the Medstead and Four Marks neighbourhood plan. While I welcome the narrowing of the SPB in general I would like to understand better why there is such a marked inconsistency in its application to Blackberry Lane, in particular between Telegraph Lane and No 39A Blackberry Lane. Firstly there remains a substantial area of Wild Wood on its eastern boundary which appears to afford space for further development. Secondly, while the boundary between No21 and No27/29 remains untouched, between No27/29 and No39a it has been narrowed more than the remainder of Blackberry Lane westwards from No45. It has previously been established by the Inspector of the Local Plan (Second Review) that, ‘Generally, long gardens have been excluded especially those whose scale and character give them a closer affinity with the countryside and where development would intrude into it. That is the correct approach. These gardens can be regarded as previously- developed land where they form the curtilages of the dwellings concerned, but that does not make such land suitable for development where it would damage the rural setting of the village. With that ruling in mind it is difficult to comprehend why a similar restriction has not been applied to the remainder of Blackberry Lane, as it has in Telegraph Lane for example. Although the diagrams of these proposals do not appear to be on line for comment by midnight tonight, nevertheless I would be most grateful if the Steering Committee could explain to me the basis and justification for this proposal. Finlegh Gordon There is a need for large community venue cgf finchamoton Baptist Church Howard Wright Dear Sirs, I recently attended the consultation on the Medstead and Four Marks neighbourhood plan. As I said to the organisers on the day I found the event informative and helpful. I commented then that I generally welcomed the tightening of the SPB, to protect the transition from the established settlement and the community to the countryside. Following a conversation with Cllr Steve Sensier I submitted a written question at the event enquiring as to why the proposed amendment to the SPB adjacent to the black arrow on the extract map below, does not extend up the Lane toward Telegraph Lane, as shown by the solid blue line that I have added (and indeed why it does not extend even further as shown by the dashed blue line). The treatment I propose would also be more consistent with the bolder approach adopted in Telegraph Lane. I am concerned that, whilst of itself welcome, the limited extent of the revision as presently tabled within the Neighbourhood Plan ‘facilitates’ development to the South side of Blackberry Lane in the region bounded by the proposed SPB and my blue lines. This is at odds with the general nature of the tightening of the SPB and may facilitate an expansion of Wild Wood and/or similar development in the adjacent area. If that is the intention I should like to understand why the Steering Committee is in favour of further development in this area. In both my general support of the proposals to tighten the SPB and in raising the matter above, I recall comments made by the Inspector as part of the Local Plan (Second Review) when considering the general issue of whether “the SPB is too generous Richard Paul 3 in its inclusion of buildings and other land that would be better regarded as part of the countryside”, the Inspector commented as follows (2.1720): “Generally, long gardens have been excluded especially those whose scale and character give them a closer affinity with the countryside and where development would intrude into it. That is the correct approach. These long gardens can be regarded as previously-developed land where they form the curtilages of the dwellings concerned, but that does not make such land suitable for development where it would damage the rural setting of the village”. Whilst the context within which planning now takes place has changed somewhat the underlying sentiment expressed above seems to me to be as valid today as it did at the time of the Inspector’s report. Regarding the area described above, I should be grateful if the Medstead and Four Marks Neighbourhood Plan Steering committee would please clarify the basis for the treatment proposed and consider the alternate alignment of the SPB that I have suggested. I look forward to hearing from you. By Email Initial Comments on the Medstead and Four Marks Neighbourhood Plan Consultation DraftMarch 2015 EHDC thanks Medstead and Four Marks Parish Councils for the opportunity to comment on the Draft Neighbourhood Plan, which it sees as a major step forward in delivering local choice in the planning of the area. The delivery of the plan, in such a short space of time, is also to be commended. By the nature of the response, it will identify a number of areas where the District Council has issues with the Neighbourhood Plan, rather than those areas where there is agreement. That the District Council has raised concerns should not, therefore, be taken as an objection to the wider areas of agreement. The comments set out below relate to the paragraph number of the Neighbourhood Plan. These comments follow up on those expressed in a meeting with the NP and their consultant on 23 March 2015. Para. No. Comment 1.5 It will be helpful to see the plan that details the SPB when it is available. 1.13 Colleagues in the EHDC Economic Development team have been asked to comment on the potential for the hub, these comments will be passed to the NP team when available. 1.20 It is unlikely that CIL will be adopted by EHDC before July 2015, in the interim S106 agreements will still need to be utilised to achieve important infrastructure. 4.6 Policy 1 The actual SPB for both Medstead and Four Marks/ South Medstead shown in plan form would be very helpful, EHDC may have specific comments on the boundaries and will be happy to comment when these are available. Policy 1 Bullet 3 The JCS allows in exceptional circumstances the development of affordable housing outside the SPB, is the intention of this policy to preclude exceptions housing? Policy 2 4.10 The requirement for this policy is understood, it is suggested that there be further narrative to justify the requirement and the boundaries for this gap. Policy 3 It is important to note that occasionally business uses develop in predominantly residential areas, when expanded they may impact on the amenities and quiet enjoyment of homes by local people, it may be worth noting this issue within the policy or text? Policy 4 The village centres should be shown on a map with definable boundaries if at all possible. It would be more easily “policed” if the shops could be referred to by address as well as name, it may prove difficult to trace a change of use if the proprietor has changed but the address is more easily monitored. Policy 6 The policy intent is supported from a planning point of view, consideration of the hub from the Economic Development team has been sought. Plan D would benefit from a key so that the important green “breathing space” can be identified. Policy 7 The policy intent is understood, terminology could benefit from review. The first sentence could read: “The following areas are designated as Local Green Spaces …” The second sentence could read: “Proposals for development on any of the following open aces, shown on the Proposals Map, will be resisted unless the development…” The green spaces should be shown in detail on the 4 Simon JenkinsNeighbourho od Plan and CIL Coordinator proposals map of sufficient scale to be able to denote boundaries. Policy 10 The third bullet should say after…the provisions of the M & FM Village Design Statement in that …and then list the main points or al least pin point where they are in the Design Statement. Policy 11 The comments of the HCC Transport team will be essential to the understanding of this policy. Policy 12. The Government announced on 18 December 2014 that Sustainable Drainage Systems would be dealt with under the planning system. However, in the short term at least, this would only apply to schemes of 10 dwellings or more or over 1,000m2 of non-residential floorspace. Any local variation for this, ie to smaller schemes, will need to be justified by particular local circumstances. The policy and/or justification needs to be re-drafted in light of this. The policy could be read as allowing surface water to be discharged into the foul water network, which is not appropriate. In addition, sustainable drainage schemes will need to be maintained; consequently the last line of the policy should state: “… necessary mitigation is access, delivered and maintained for the lifetime of the development.” General In preparing the District Council for its Part 2 Plan Sustainability Consultants URS were clear that there needed to be an appropriate narrative and Sustainability Appraisal to support the site selection process. Whilst the NP is not required to produce an SA of the same complexity as the Part 2 Plan we believe it would be good practice to have a narrative to explain the development strategy formulated to advise the NP allocation. East Hampshire would be happy to make available the work undertaken within the SA for the Part 2 plan in relation to Bentley to support that narrative. 5 Four Marks and Medstead Neighbourhood Plan Comments on the Draft Plan Summary The Draft Plan answers many of the points asked in the questionnaire submitted earlier. The comments are intended to be ‘constructive’ with view points to be considered before Pre Submission stage. • Houses • Shop area • Light Industrial area • Senior resident housing Houses Whilst the Plan discusses to some length the number of houses permitted, general areas where developers have targeted and last but not least the ‘windfalls’. As the population ages there doesn’t appear to be enough suitable housing in planning for the aging community or for those who might want to settle in the Neighbourhood The developments to date consist of are two and three storey units. It well known that an aging community do better with single storey units suitably designed to maximise staying at home without ending in a Care Institution. Stairs are a hazard even with stair lifts, bathing and washing need to be carefully considered, doorways often too narrow and not suitable when using walking frames and wheelchairs. For future planning, Consideration for a retirement complex either as an entity or merged together with affordable, executive and social housing could be considered. Shop area. The proposal to develop the Railway Station Hub needs to be carefully thought out. Businesses only thrive if there are people using them. Has enough ground work been done to establish who would use such a facility. The heart of the Community is, the Four Marks shops and green and likewise, Medstead village. Work and development on these two areas needs to come first. Four Marks The village is losing its charm and some re-development should be considered. The ‘small industrial area off Hazel Road, once a supporting and useful set of facilities. However with the development of the housing complex leading from Hazel Road, Pine Road and Badger Close, these facilities are in the wrong place. Vincent Plant is so busy it commands Hazel Road what with low loaders , light plant etc,it’s a mine field for pedestrians and housing traffic. This heavy traffic has contributed to the severe damage to Hazel Road. It has a gas bottle park along the side of the building. Has any assessment been made as to what would happen to the surrounding area if these bottles exploded? Alton Pumps, not really contributing to Four Marks. Its market is County wide. What started off as a sign on the door has developed into multi container storage, crates etc. This is a housing area and not an industrial area-its time to relocate to a purpose built industrial area. Discussion has been made as to where to relocate such an area. There are two ready made parks, Woodlea Park and Mansfield Business Park. Both on Station approach. Both parks have empty facilities, a number of them for many years. This is where the re-development of industrial business of the village should go. Both Medstead and Four Marks would be better served. Should this move occur the vacant buildings in Hazel Road Four Marks, to be redeveloped as an extension to the existing precinct. This is where we need the craft shops, tea room, dentist and even a charity shop. The ground area developed into gardens and parking-the result will harmonise with the local housing and the rest of the village. The front facades of the Four Marks village shops is just about bearable. The rear side of these premises is reminiscent of a war zone. Is there nothing that can be done to give an uplift to this area? Pathways and cycle ways. General improvement and also provision is always a good thing. We should look to encourage physical activity in walking, bike riding (on and off road), horse riding. Coupled with the excellent facilities on both Four Marks and Medstead sports facilities will help to retain the country side feeling and encourage the residents to appreciate our wonderful surrounds. Infrastructure and services. This is a long standing issue where the population grows followed by infrastructure and services improvements. We have two medical practices and one non- NHS dentist and one optician. Encouragement to bring on a NHS dentist, perhaps into the re-designed Four Marks precinct would be of benefit. The Local Green Spaces and Open Spaces. The Plan is excellent and combining with footpaths, cycle ways, bridle ways will help retain the beauty and accessibility of our surrounding areas. 6 David and Angela Roberts Medstead and Four Marks Neighbourhood Plan Steering Group Our Ref: EH/247/1/AW Your Ref: Email: [email protected] Date: 30th March, 2015 Status: Dear Sir / Madam, Draft Medstead and Four Marks Neighbourhood Plan consultation March 2015 – comments submitted on behalf of Mr Peter Charles Please find attached the comments that we are submitting on the draft Neighbourhood Plan on behalf of our client, Mr Peter Charles, who owns land at Cedar Stables, Medstead. An online comments form was filled in simply to register Mr Charles’ wish to comment on the Neighbourhood Plan. This letter sets out his overall comments on the Plan. If you have any queries about the comments or wish to discuss them further, please contact me or Andy Partridge. Yours sincerely, Alison Wood Policy Planner Enclosure cc COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT MEDSTEAD AND FOUR MARKS NEIGHBOURHOOD PLAN SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF MR PETER CHARLES General comments Mr Charles welcomes the publication of the draft Neighbourhood Plan and acknowledges the amount of work that has gone in to its production. The main areas of comment are: - Vision and Objectives - Wild Flower Meadow Walk - Local Green Spaces - Approach to further housing development in Medstead Village - Settlement policy boundary - Maps - Monitoring and Reviewing the Plan. A. Vision and Objectives i) Point 8 of the Vision Mr Charles supports point 8 of the Vision – namely, to retain the rural character and setting of Medstead village whilst accommodating a modest growth in housing numbers to meet the needs of its residents, and to provide a balance of dwellings types to serve the community over the long term. However, much of the Plan gives the impression that very little, if any, new development will be allowed in and around the village. No extensions are proposed to the settlement policy boundary and the policies for development within the existing boundary are quite restrictive. The wording of the policies and the extent of the settlement policy boundary should be reviewed to make them less restrictive before the Pre-Submission Plan is published for comment. ii) Point 2 of the Vision Mr Charles finds it somewhat surprising that the Vision for the Neighbourhood Plan does not include meeting the housing needs of the two parishes. As currently written, the Plan restricts development almost exclusively to land within the existing settlement policy boundaries (with the exception of some small reductions in the boundary in parts of Four Marks) or on sites which now have planning permission for development. The Neighbourhood Plan lasts until 2028. Although the current planning permissions for housing development exceed the minimum requirement set down in the Joint Core Strategy for Four Marks and South Medstead, these are all likely to be completed within the next 5 years. There will be a need to find additional land for housing from about 2020. The Neighbourhood Plan should be taking a more positive approach to meeting future housing needs. Medstead village is included within the list if villages to the north of the national Park in the Joint Core Strategy where a minimum of 150 homes will be provided on greenfield sites. As a Level 4 settlement in the Joint Core Strategy, development will be limited to ‘minor infilling and redevelopment, or that which is necessary to meet specific local needs’. Current planning permissions on greenfield sites in the village will provide 14 new homes. These homes are likely to be built within the next 2 years. The Neighbourhood Plan, as currently written, does not make any provision for meeting housing needs in the village once these sites are developed. The Plan should be amended to enable further development to take place in Medstead village in order to meet local needs. B. Wild Flower Meadow Walk Mr Charles supports the proposal to create a ‘Wild Flower Walk’ around part of Medstead parish, including land at the proposed meadow at Cedar Stables. However, the walk includes a significant amount of land which is currently in private ownership. If the Parish Council wishes to create a permanent public right of way for the entire length of the Walk then some enabling development will be required in order to help create and maintain it. The draft Neighbourhood Plan, as currently written, does not allow for any development outside the settlement policy boundary. A more positive approach to new development needs to be taken if the Council wants to achieve its ambitions for the Wild Flower Walk. The land owned by Mr Charles on the east side of Trinity Hill should be included within the settlement policy boundary. 7 Southern Planning Practice on behalf of Mr Peter Charles The map of the Wild Flower Meadow Walk shown at the public exhibition showed land encompassed by the Walk in brown shading. This gave the impression that all of the land within the Walk was to become a wild flower meadow. This may have been an unintentional result of shading the land. However, if this was the intention, then Mr Charles strongly objects to his land on the E side of Trinity Hill being designated as a wild flower meadow. The draft Plan does not include a detailed map showing the route of the walk and the land required for the footpath. A detailed map of the Walk must be included in the Pre-Submission version of the Plan. Policy 8 (Medstead Village Wild Flower Walk) includes a requirement that ‘development proposals on land within the broad location of the walk will be required to align their public open space and other amenity requirements with its objective, so that they may contribute to its successful formation and maintenance.’ Mr Charles has no objection to this, provided that the policy is not used to prevent development on land near to the Walk. C. Local Green Spaces The Neighbourhood Plan does not include detailed site plans of the areas proposed to be designated as Local Green Spaces. In the absence of these, Mr Charles objects to the designation of land in his ownership at Cedar Stables or the east of Trinity Hill as Local Green Spaces. However, if the land at Cedar Stables proposed to be allocated as Local Green Space is the meadow recently approved at Cedar Stables as part of planning application 55010/003 then Mr Charles does not object to this proposal as it will be provided as part of that development. Similarly, if the land to be designated as Local Green Spaces at Marls Row and the earthworks east of Trinity Hill excludes land owned by Mr Charles then he does not object to these Local Green Spaces. D. Approach to further housing development in Medstead village As mentioned in the comments on the Vision and Objectives, Mr Charles objects to the very restrictive nature of the Neighbourhood Plan in relation to meeting future housing needs, especially once the sites currently granted planning permission have been developed. As currently drafted, the Plan restricts new development to sites within the existing settlement policy boundary of the village, provided that it does not result in: - the sub-division of residential gardens, - the loss of open land that contributes to the form and character of the village and its rural setting, - a negative impact on local landmarks or local views. The current settlement policy boundary is very tightly drawn and offers few opportunities for development. There will be a need for further site allocations to help meet local housing needs once the two greenfield sites granted planning permission have been built. As these sites are likely to have been developed by about 2017/18 there is a need for the Neighbourhood Plan to take a more proactive approach to meeting future housing needs in the village. The land owned by Mr Charles to the east of Trinity Hill is a highly suitable site for a limited amount of development, being close to the village centre and the wide range of local facilities there. The site is well-screened by mature hedgerows. It adjoins the earthworks at Trinity Hill and could provide a pedestrian access to it, potentially with some additional open space. The site should be included in the Neighbourhood Plan as a site suitable for a limited amount of residential development. Mr Charles also owns land to the west of Cedar Stables which abuts the settlement boundary and adjoins the land at Barn End which is being recommended for planning permission at the Planning Committee on 2nd April (see application 25979/004). This land is also available for development and should be included within the settlement policy boundary as a small housing allocation. E. Settlement Policy Boundary As mentioned above, Mr Charles considers that the settlement policy boundary of Medstead village should have been extended to enable some small housing sites to be developed to help meet local needs for both housing and other community facilities such as the Wild Flower Walk. He proposes that the settlement boundary should be extended to include land that he owns: - to the east of Trinity Hill adjoining Marls Row and the earthworks, and - to the west of Cedar Stables and adjoining Barn End. Detailed maps of these sites can be provided if required. F. Maps a) Need for more detailed maps 8 As mentioned above, the Neighbourhood Plan needs to include much more detailed maps which clearly identify: The Medstead Village Wild Flower Walk The proposed Local green Spaces and open Spaces The settlement policy boundaries of Medstead village, South Medstead and Four Marks. b) Vision Diagram The purpose of the Vision Diagram is unclear. It includes references to ‘threads’, ‘garden edge’, ‘rural setting’, fields and semi-rural setting’ but there is no explanation of what these mean or how they will be used to guide / control development. G. Monitoring and reviewing the Plan As mentioned above, the Neighbourhood Plan lasts until 2028. The Plan needs to include a section explaining how the policies will be monitored and when the Plan will be reviewed. The Joint Core Strategy will need to be updated and rolled forward within the next year or so to take account of new housing and employment projections. The neighbourhood Plan will then need to be reviewed and updated in order to be in line with the Joint Core Strategy. In addition to the various dos and don'ts relating to planning applications I'd like to see a stronger statement about the linear nature of development around the edges of Medstead. The key additional point is that in many locations the development is on one side of the road only, the other being open agricultural or equestrian land, and that's one of the defining features of the rural nature of the village in my view. I'd like to see a statement opposing proposals to develop the open sides of these roads and lanes. Otherwise the document looks balanced and sensible. Nick Mason Dear Sir/ Madam, After attending local presentations on the MFM plans I have the following comments: - the new centre near the station is an excellent idea especially if there is a licensed restaurant/pub. I am hoping that it would be a pub similar to the English Partridge in Bighton or The Ropley. No large chains. Also we would need paths created/used to access local walks and facilities so that visitors can make use of the facilities. Similar to Alresford. - I support the push for more green spaces and paths. - In policy 10 need less dense housing. Too many houses forced into small areas to profit developers. -Too many housing areas sit right on the A31 causing traffic. In general I support the plan. By Email Mrs Shirley Leader Unfortunaetly due to work pressures I have not been able to attend any of the presentations nor been able to consider all the points raised. In addition to the comments I sent in yesterday. Q33 states 20% of respondants wanted additional shopping facilities. 40% said no and 30% said maybe. Despite 40% saying no to additional shopping facilities, the key item in the plan is additional shopping facilities around the station. Please can you tell me how this survey is influencing the development of the plan given that the survey results appear to have been completely ignored. The survey also indicates that the respondants would possibility be interested in a clothing shop, restaurant, cafe, bank, household goods, food and beverage, yet the draft plan proposes craft shops. There are no details what the indoor market would be. As previously stated, I am very concerned that Stoney Lane will be used as a thorough fare for people to get this location despite it just being a bridal path. The entrance into the carpark is narrow and will get blocked up - it isn't designed for what is being proposed in this document. This will also encourage traffic to pass through the railway bridge arches, single track, adding to the traffic infrastructure issues that people are concerned about and none of the infrastructure concerns are being addressed at all!! I have also spoken to a family member of the the land that is being proposed to be used for these additional faciltiies and it's NEWS to them. The people drawing up this plan haven't even bothered to consult them - this is not right . This strikes me as a plan that has been drawn up by specific individuals who want to make money and the survey is pure window dressing. Barbara Gibson 9 I applaud the energy and effort that has been devoted to making this plan happen and thank all those involved for all their hard work. The Station Hub and wildflower meadow ideas are a great way to bring this community together. I am pleased that the housing planning is providing opportunities to support self build and smaller projects and feel it is important to enable small scale development on existing properties to enable extended families to stay in the area especially the young and the elderly. The need for affordable housing means we should try to accommodate more of this within our community although this can be probmematic. Thank you all again. Libby Brayshaw I was surprised by the proposal of the land around the railway station. The proposed additional car parking and buildings on page 29 covers privately owned land. I have heard of a legal wrangle that is in place regarding vechicle access to this land from the station carpark and is wanting to buy the land. It is now clear to me, why this is happening. The station car-park owner wants the land, to extend the carpark and put up these additional properties. This also makes me wonder how much influence the person who owns part of the station carpark and the road leading up to the station has on the proposed plan and he doesn't even live in the area.How can a plan detail the use of private land, someone's garden? The person who owns part of the station carpark, I have heard, cut down trees on Stoney Lane a couple of years ago, making a complete mess, to widen the entrance to the property, to justify additional traffic entering at the top of Stoney Lane and enable him to build more properties behind the old railway shed - fortunately the planning department did not accept it. I have no issue with adding a restaurant for the station, however, I am very concerned about the proposal to include additional buildings for arts and craft and car-parking. I do not want traffic going up and down Stoney Lane. It is an unmaintained stoney bridal way, that currently gets water logged in some places. I have rights to drive over it as I own a house along the lane, but other vechicles must NOT be allowed access to the lane. Barbara Gibson Just a couple of (hopefully useful) comments: P 27 - Policy 5 Under Community Assets, Medstead School is listed, but not Four Marks School. The other asset I would list for Four Marks is the Veterinary Surgery. P 18 and 36 I note that the Parish Councils are considering updates of the Village Design Statements. As the former chairman of the Four Marks Village Design Statement committee, I still hold an electronic copy of both the Design Statement itself and all the supporting data and documentation. I will be quite happy to supply copies if it is of any help - there may of course already be copies on the PC computer. By Email Chris Lake This is a totally wasted opportunity. I thought the entire point of this plan was to work out Mary Bantick where new housing was to go. I appreciate that Four Marks and Medstead have exceeded their “allocations” of 175 houses and about 10 houses, but as has already been pointed out by planning inspectors this is not a maximum allocation, it is a minimum figure so, in theory thousands of new houses could be built in the area. This plan should be saying where any future new houses will be acceptable and also where they will be unacceptable. As the current plan extends until 2028 it is unreasonable to expect absolutely no house building in the area in that time. This plan should also state that any new house building should be dependent upon certain infrastructure improvements and list what Four Marks needs, like a new pub, post office, bank etc. Some of this might be outside the remit of the plan, but I think it is worth including anyway as the feelings and views of local people will be totally overruled unless this is written down somewhere. Were any other sites considered other than the 'Station Hub' site for future development to include an eatery and small retail outlets? 10 Mr A & Mrs D Hargraves The questionnaire is strangely selective, singling out, as it does, Policies 6, 7 and 9. It is not clear why these, as opposed to the other nine policies, warrant isolating in this fashion. If nothing else, it is guaranteed to skew any response if respondents only voice an opinion on these three policies. On behalf of our clients, the intent of these policies is laudable. They own what appears to be, one of the identified “Local Green Spaces and Open Spaces” listed in Policy 7, namely FOUR MARKS xxiv “Copse of Noah’s Ark, behind Telegraph Lane”. The land is not in public ownership and there is no public access, although there are some public views from an adjacent footpath. In this regard, land at both 5 Blackberry Lane and 2 Telegraph Lane has been the subject of recent planning applications and these proposals specifically excluded the Copse from the development area; indeed, it was excluded from the application site, but would be a feature and a backdrop for a PROPOSED public open space and ‘LAP’ play area. As such, were this realised, it would be consistent with the proposed policy and would afford greater public benefit from the Copse. Leaving aside the policies expressly highlighted for comment, our principal reason for responding to the plan is that it is fundamentally flawed. Its synopsis of East Hampshire District Council (EHDC) policy is incorrect, particularly insofar as it interprets the JCS Policy CP10. In this regard, this draft Plan may be forgiven, in that it follows the lead taken by EHDC in its own recently published draft Allocations document (Para 1.6 refers), in respect of which we commented recently as follows: “The failure to allocate any sites in this settlement (Four Marks) is justified by saying that the JCS (CP10) states that “beyond existing commitments, new sites will be identified for a minimum of 175 dwellings…… sites for a total of 191* dwellings have already been granted planning permission and no further allocations are required”. * (now 242) The text does acknowledge the word minimum. It is an important word, deliberately added to the adopted JCS upon the Inspector’s recommendation as one change, and a crucial change, to make it sound. There is nothing ambiguous about the word, it means the least possible amount or quantity and with regard to JCS housing policy, it is applied both to the district wide figure and each of the itemised “most sustainable” settlements in the hierarchy. This includes Four Marks/South Medstead. Clearly, therefore, the policy allows for more than 175 dwellings to be allocated in the settlement and the fact that 191 are approved (16 more), neither satisfies nor breaches the minimum allocation policy. Furthermore, CP10 does not state that “new sites” will be allocated “beyond existing commitments”. It clearly states that provision of a district wide minimum will be made up by means of; completing existing permissions and allocations, development within existing settlement boundaries and, amongst others, the allocation of sites to provide a minimum of 175 dwellings at Four Marks/South Medstead. It does not say that the allocations can be waived if completions of existing allocations and approvals exceed the minimum figure. In the case of Four Marks/South Medstead, the 175 minimum is clearly intended to be additional to any dwellings realised under Clauses 1 and 2 of CP10. The draft document must, therefore, identify sites which will provide a minimum of 175 dwellings in the Plan period, in which respect, the LIPS, SHLAA and various recent planning proposal provide a variety of options. One such site identified as reasonable in the companion Sustainability Appraisal (SA) is FM024: Land at 32 Telegraph Lane/5 Blackberry Lane, Four Marks. This 1.9h site was refused planning permission (54976/001) recently substantively owing to a similar misinterpretation of the policy but for no other technical or practical reasons. The site should be included in the site allocations document. Mindful of this suggestion, we also comment separately on the SA.” Consequently, this draft Plan rests upon and perpetuates a false assumption about housing and consequently its Vision and Objectives and Land Use Planning Policies are also misconceived and incomplete. The comments hold equally good for this Neighbourhood Plan which effectively is (or should be) the Allocations document for Four Marks. 11 Mr Steven Barker on behalf of Mr B Hobbs and Mrs A Griffin Continuation: Consequently, Policy 1: A Spatial Plan for the Parishes should include the need to allocate a site or sites for a minimum of 175 dwellings and there should be a corresponding dedicated “Housing Policy”, possibly Policy 3 with the remaining policies renumbered up to Policy 13. Amongst the sites should be: * Land at and rear of 5 Blackberry Lane and land at and rear of 32 Telegraph Lane, Four Marks – 17 dwellings. As it stands, the draft Plan is misleading and incomplete. Neither it, nor the EHDC draft Allocations Plan, from which it takes its lead, reflects properly the provisions of the recently adopted JCS. The draft Plan must, therefore, be amended substantially in order to reflect properly the provisions of the JCS. Mr Steven Barker on behalf of Mr B Hobbs and Mrs A Griffin Gentelmen, Firstly congratulations on all the hours and energy you have expended thus far to produce the draft plan. My feedback on the draft plan as presented at the church in Four Marks, and also from studying the full plan online: Wildflower Walk - I applaud the concept, but must confess to confusion when reading of a walk "from one end of Medstead Village to the other " but a map presentation and description which seem to be trying to present not a walk but an area, with mention of acres rather than distance. This is a presentational criticism! Page 7 - Railway Station Hub - and Page 23 (Objectives - Vision - Retail, Services and Community Facilities) : it seems to me that there is a natural hub of sorts already in the Lymington Barns complex. Is your proposal intended to bridge the distance between Oak Green and Lymington Barns by establishing a midway hub-link? If so, there arise two implications from this concept : firstly regarding Station Approach, which would have to become a more major road in the village, and secondly access from the Oak Green side would be limited to a footbridge across the railway line....? So not exactly straightforward or a natural focus/heart for the community! Background and Purpose - Page 11, paragraphs 2.33 and 2.34 - you mention "Level 3" and "Level 4 Settlements", and offer more detail on the Settlement Heirarchy via your website, yet on page 15 you mention both these categories with a simple descriptive extension to include "Small Local Service Centres" and "Other Settlements with a settlement policy boundary" respectively - a simple improvement in presentation which avoids the frustration reaction of not immeditely understanding the differentiation? Settlement Boundaries - Page 15 para 2.34 :"Medstead Village, South Medstead and Four Marks all have their own settlement policy boundaries. These will be reviewed by the Neighbourhood Plan. " I don't understand what the last sentence means. What does "review" mean - will you/do you propose changing them? Groundwater Flooding - Page 37 para 4.4.2 : "Lymington Bottom, Four Marks, particularly at the end of Vectis Close (almost constant in winter months),the Brisland Lane / Blackberry Lane crossroads and Five Ways before continuing east south east along Hawthorne Road with additional water from Willis Lane and Hawthorne Lane." All very fair observations, but worth noting that the substantial new storm drain installed down Brislands Lane (as part of the S278 works prior to the start of the "Medstead Farm" development ) does actually appear to have finally addressed the crossroads problem. However the Lymington Bottom flooding outside the "Flints" house (opposite the church) and Vectis Close continues to be as bad as ever.... Pedestrianisation/Cycleways - as a general observation you champion this concept wherever possible and I am 100% in favour. However there is a danger that the Health+Safety/Highways Department/EHDC reaction is to insist on tarmac or formal gravel footpaths with kerbs, minimum widths etc.(witness what has happened down Brislands Lane in front of our property..), all of which works against the overall declared objective of protecting the rural character of the area - proper pavements, streetlighting etc.etc. just accelerates the giving-in to inevitable urbanisation of our village. Speaking personally we do not want bitmac footpaths and street lighting - I understand it is proposed to install such a pavement along Lymington Bottom Road from the railway bridge up beyond WKL? This is slippery slope stuff, encouraging the David Craigen 12 urbanisation of Medstead and Four Marks. Please receive this feedback as constructive criticism! The document is a great start on the long road to achieving something with some legal weight behind it for the planners to respect. Congratulations on producing a very comprehensive plan that will hopefully ensure the retention of the best parts of Four Marks and improve the facilities. Living at the boundary of the Parish we will be unlikely to walk to the proposed Station Hub and so will need facilities either to secure bicycles securely or parking nearby, just a thought, We think that traffic calming measures could be introduced on Lymington Bottom (North side) and Telegraph Lane and favour breaking up the straight sight line with chicanes that could be planted with small trees and bushes and require vehicles to weave in and out as they pass down the road, This will become even more important on Lymington Bottom North if pedestrians are remove from the carriage way leaving only cyclists as soft targets for vehicles. It is encouraging to think that further development in Four Marks will be on a very minor scale for the immediate future, but fear that with the population increasing by 300,000 a year pressure from above will continue to exploit soft options. Le'ts hope that mfmplan will be able to fight off such an attack, Nick Giles I think it is important that if more things are by the station in four marks, there are improved transport links to the village. There was meant to be a railway link up to the mainline a few years ago but this has never happened. Heather Armitage Green infrastructure network (footpath) there is a safe way from the footbridge over the railway by taking the twiiten through to Windmill Fields and then out exactly by the pelican crossing opposite the shops rather than using the narrow pavement along Station Approach and the busy Winchester Road. There is also a good green space viewpoint over the Railway. Pam Maloney 13 The information on the draft Neighbourhood Plan did say that you wanted comments on the draft, for what they are worth these are the main issues that came to mind. I have great respect for those who give up their time to aid community projects, so my hat is doffed to you. My thoughts on the draft Neighbourhood plan are below and for easy reference I have put the paragraph numbers with my comments regarding those of most concern. 1.10 i. ‘The Green Infrastructure Network: we have been looking to find ways to both protect and enhance the many green spaces in and around the built up areas’. The area bordered by Boyneswood Road, Five Ash Road and Lymington Bottom Road, until the last few years have had plenty of green open fields , trees and hedges to easily support abundant wildlife. New developments and residents are removing hedges and trees. You are unable to protect this environment as its demise is due to development over which you have no control. I am aware of the reasons for re drawing the settlement policy lines, I discussed it at great length at the time with various planning officers who assured me that it was just academic, ‘promising’ that any development on Medstead side of railway line would be in keeping with that of Medstead and NOT that of Four Marks (I wish I laid a bet against that at the Bookies). Footpaths across fields are in character, footpaths along road edges are URBAN in character and detrimental to rural ambience. ‘The Local Gap’ denoting the change from one village to the other is denoted by the railway bridges. The signs say Medstead NOT South Medstead. iii. The Railway Station Hub: If Four Marks is missing a ‘heart’ for its community it is exceedingly odd that it should chose to create one in the neighbouring village of Medstead. Medstead already has a village hall and a church hall, even a public house. Four Marks has a Community centre/village hall. The area around Medstead station appears from the plan to be the area suggested for this idea. The station is a popular attraction, yes, but it is a seasonal attraction. How is it in the heart of the community? It is not in the centre of Four Marks, it is not in the centre of Medstead. So what if it is within walking distance of retail facilities in Four Marks, how has that a bearing on what is being proposed as a way of bringing together communities? Close to a number of thriving businesses? Not retail businesses for the general public though (although there is a dentist) the retail units nearest would be the Oak Green Parade or the retail units in Lymington Bottom Road. Positioning, very little parking facilities, to extend will cause more infringement on existing green areas , footway access from Four Marks is reasonably easy (if you do not mind the climb over the pedestrian railway bridge when trains are in operation), however foot way access from for those in Medstead is, in the case of the private road for access to warehouses and offices, which (every time I have walked it) means negotiating the dog faeces that litters both the road and footpath, or the ‘lane’, which again is littered with dog faeces, and in wet weather is thick with mud, - a wonderfully charming ‘green breathing space’. The walk to and from the licensed eatery would therefore likely be quite ‘fragrant’. Medstead has eateries, as does Four Marks; how does giving the proposed eatery a liquor licence make it more family friendly? (I would think that the opposite would be more likely) It seems to me that Four Marks has no pub and wants one but no one in Four Marks wants it near to them, so, hey let’s put a ‘licensed eatery’ in Medstead, that we can walk to. Half a dozen small booth style ‘craft’ outlets? The Retail business’ in Four Marks Oak Parade and Medstead High Street survive because of the through traffic that passes their doors. All these ‘benefits’ would be in an area which would lend itself wonderfully to break-ins, being nice and secluded, if stock was kept at the ‘craft’ outlets then their stock will likely be fast moving, just not the way intended. Indoor markets. With a little planning these could be held in village halls (ask the local Women’s Institute for advice.) The idea of ‘craft’ outlet/ booths is good, an eatery if you must, but why licenced? I think this location would definitely not be good for such an enterprise (see above), costs for rental of booth, electricity, water, toilet facilities, insurance and security (it would need this) would amount to more than the average week’s takings for most of the year from customers who if from Medstead have the choice of muddy lane or private road to access, both routes will require careful positioning of feet to avoid unpleasant things. 14 Amanda Hudson Continuation: 1.18 The Neighbourhood Plan is primarily about ‘spatial policy’ or land use. Few of the issues that were reviewed related to land use. If you are saying that the issues that most concern residents are ‘not within the purview’ of the Neighbourhood plan, but that once it is in place there will be money available to the parish councils? In which case the question needs to be asked (and answered) which one gets the money, and who will decide what it is used for (the ’needs’ that will be addressed’) especially in the case of poor benighted “South Medstead” as you call it? Amanda Hudson • CP 9: Tourism – Promoting the existing visitor attraction through improving the facility and or surrounding area to benefit the local community and supporting the local economyBoyneswood Road and Lymington Bottom Road both have severe pinch points that have horrendously fast traffic and plenty of it in peak times, with little car parking availability. I fail to see how increased tourist activity in this immediate area is to be beneficial to the community of this immediate area other than Oak Green Parade which will get customers from increased passing traffic (when parking allows)? • CP 13: Affordable housing on residential development sites – Reinforcing the affordable housing provision set in the JCSApparently the need for affordable housing can be bypassed by huge contributions to the Alton Sports Centre, and/or the ‘move the bridge fund’ Or by some other ‘method’. Village Design Statements 2.40 Both Medstead and Four Mark have Village Design Statements (VDS) which have been adopted as Supplementary Planning Documents (SPD) by EHDC. As such the documents are material considerations, which mean that their guidance needs to be considered in planning applications. This will be a good change as up till now they seem to be trivialised and ignored by East Hants.Well, those are some of my thoughts regarding the draft neighbourhood plan, I am not sure how useful they will be. Having lived in Winchester for just under 40 years and seen the expansion and rapid growth in recent years of housing development in and on the outskirts of that city it seemed that a move to Four Marks would lead to a quieter more peaceful lifestyle. In the twelve months that I have been resident here that has generally proved to be the case. Although I was aware that new housing had been on the increase in Four Marks I did not appreciate the scale of the increase and welcome what has been done to ensure that the infrastructure required to sustain future growth is carefully planned. The work that the Neighbourhood Plan Steering Group has obviously done in order to produce the Draft Plan is commendable and their proposals have my full support. Thank you. Keith Brown Dear Mrs Goudie, I read the plan with interest and have a couple of initial questions. Are you able to answer these? A. p. 30-31 The Neighbourhood Plan designates open spaces in the following locations and will resist proposals for any development, unless ancillary to its use as an open space. Could you qualify please whether the Parish owns these listed assets? I should like to see included in the Four Marks list of assets to be preserved the green space opposite my property at 6 Kingswood Rise and adjacent to 2 Kingswood Rise. Is there any reason why this space should not also be included? B. the report mentions 'houses' and 'dwellings' throughout as if they were interchangeable words, however they have different meanings and, for instance, on pages 14 and 19, the increase in building and applications to build is expressed as houses when quite a number of apartments have also been built. Is there a need to distinguish between houses and dwellings, do you think? Best regards, BY Email Terry Barnes. 15 Am rather disappointed that butterflies wasn't included in the "providers for education" section In the neighbourhood plan questionnaire. As butterflies has been in operation for the last 7.5 years and are a major contributor to the revenue of four marks village hall. I appreciate that nothing can be done to rectify this now however I would be grateful if It could be noted on your records and we are included on any subsequent literature. I look forward to seeing the draft plan when it becomes available. BY Email Sarah Nisbit Seems like a very good NP document and reads well. My comments as follows which may or may not be appropriate. 3.1 The vision for Medstead and Four Marks in 2028 is: Housing growth in Four Marks/South Medstead and Medstead Village will should it read Four Marks, Four Marks/South Medstead and Medstead Village? Plan c looks odd that the picture has no footpaths on the Four Marks side. Should those linking to the A31 going north into Medstead be shown? policy 5 Four Marks Community Assets should Four Marks school be added? open spaces section somewhere in Four Marks there is a small playground above Tawny Grove in Penrose Way. Should that appear anywhere? Not sure if the shops at Oak Green Parade and others in Winchester Road will be happy with the Hub at the railway which might take business from them !!! By Email Janet Foster Hello, Having reviewed the draft plan, is it very disappointing there is no mention of the problems that traffic on A31 create through our village. Trying to move the centre of the village to the station is laudable, but not practical. The heart of the village is and always will be 'Winchester road', but not with the ever larger lorries and busy traffic, now much worse than 20 years ago. How will this road cope in the future, with more housing developments and cars? Access to Winchester road, is already difficult. More traffic lights, may solve that and slow the traffic, but will add to the noise and air pollution? We, and my neighbours, believe the first and real need for Four Marks is a by-pass, like Farnham, Bentley, and Arlesford. Are we not as important? By Email Peter Beagles Thank you very much for sight of the draft Plan, which I found very interesting. It reads very well. I appreciate that I am not a resident but I hope you do not mind my mentioning three points that struck me: · To the best of my knowledge, two of the main recreational facilities in Medstead – the Tennis Club and the Bowls Club – are both on fairly short-term leases. Kate used to be Treasurer of the former, and at that time the lease of the land from My Cray was renewable every 7 years. These facilities are not mentioned as recreational facilities (Community Assets) in the Plan and I wonder what would happen if Mr Cray decided to try to sell off the land on which they are located for housing? · The draft Plan talks about Medstead Station but does not make it clear that it is owned by the Mid-Hants Railway and is therefore a tourist attraction rather than a means of travel for local people to work or neighbouring towns. Someone not familiar with the area might gain the wrong impression. · It is very hard to visualise the green areas listed in Medstead and I wonder if a map to show these more clearly might be useful. I was a bit confused that the cricket pitch did not seem to be listed but am unclear whether this is common land. David Quick Dear Sirs, I have looked at the draft neighbourhood plan but would like to point out the fairly dramatic increase in electricity and water problems we have experienced in the last weeks since responding to the plan questionnaire. In Alton Lane we have experienced 4 power outages in the last few weeks and have suffered a drop in water pressure. It is hard not to conclude that these are related to the building works because they always happen early morning (0800-1000 hrs). The power outages are short but can damage items like computers and electrical goods. This morning the water pressure on cold water is little more than a dribble ! I therefore feel the answers giving to questions related to interuptions in power supply was an underestimate. Steve Morrison 16 On the Station Hub, I very muchagree with the concept but I do wonder whether the station one is in the right place. It just seams a bit remote from the main part of the village and it currently is not the most prepossessing of places.However, I understand that this maybe the best or only site at which this could be bilt. Second thanks to all for taking this Plan on - it can only do good! Richard Lacey An excellent opportunity to see the NP to date and many thanks to all of youwho have put so much effort into yhis. Wouldyou consider extending the settlement policy boundary to the eastof Boyneswood Road to include the strip of land behind Timbers and Woodview? Hugh Bethel We need an All -encompasing overall plan for the local area that takes int account existing services, employment, schools, etc., so that future expansion can happen on a suystainable basis. Steve Booker Roberta Burrows Anna Moore How would the hub be affected if the Kala homes application /appeal is upheld? Dave Curtis Strongly support the neighbourhood plan. Ian Hainsworth I am in favour of street lighting in selected sites to improve & enhance safety. One such in Lymington Bottom from St Faiths Close to Brislands Lane / Blackberry Lane crossroads. Within this length there is the village hall and the church of the good shepherd, both used late into the evening. In the absence of lighting cars tend to park on the pavements which hinders movement by pedestrians & creates blind spots when crossing the road, Chris KingSmith Most helpful & informative. R Roberts Medstead Convent & its land should be identified in the plan as a major potential community asset in the heart of the village - an excellent potential site for a social enterprise, box veg scheme from the walled garden, rural picnic & wedding site, accomodation, and much much more possible here!!! Excellent work by all the NP team. Thanks you. Libby Brayshaw The footpaths planned from Roedowns Road & Lymington Bottom are excellent. Rosemary Paton The group have obviously worked hard & are trying to include all views. I think they have captured the 'feel' of the area - it should be kept 'semi-rural' as that is the reason for the high demand for housing here. It is a good place to live! J Ozwell Too much concrete - more green please, after all Medstead & Four Marks are in the country and should be rural. Jenny Overy I would like "localish" defined for public consumption together with any statutory powers and funding by the "grant system", the role of those persons representing "localish" issues and their legal rights and responsibilities. J Michael Paton station hub - any changes to the station could spoil it - therefore a plan to develop this needs to be thought about carefully. this area needs to provide affordable housing for the young people otherwise the village will die. however this must not be at the expense of the environment, which as it is, is beautiful. this must not be wrecked forever. pat brough lack of detail regarding proposals e.g. footpath alongside rowdowns road, pedestrian/cyclists needs both able to use it in all weathers, the station hub - not a firm enough requirement more arthur brough 17 like a bright idea Four Marks and Medstead is reeling from the pace of recent development. It is not designated as a major settlement and should be allowed to maintain its rural character. No more developments than already planned should take place until 2028 and beyond. Terri Hall It is important to calm the traffic through the village lanes. ie 20 mph. The access onto the A31 is a car crash experience. More photos of village would be nice Thank you for all the hard work putting the plan together Julia Hidden Thank you very much for all the hard work you have contributed to this excellent draft plan - we are extremely fortunate to this team working on all our behalves. Lesley Bethem I strongly support the draft policies presented here. With respect to the station hub I think this is an excellent idea and should be used to create a characterful area that defines the neighbourhood. To this end I think that better access from the south side is needed. The existing bridge is old, small and and has steps that might deter some visitors. A new bridge would be useful. Mike Hall Penny Pate Keen to see provision a a bypass route (Blackberry and Alton lanes or Alton/Willis lane) ~Provision of bungalows of all sizes Provision of warden-assisted residential flats/bungalows Embargo on development IF figue of 175 new properties till 2028 is actually suffered and happen rather rather than be overridden. Provision of comfort stop area - public toilet Provision for employment for new residents Cyril Cowland Fast broadband is an important part of infrastructure and certain parts of the village are not included in plans for fast broadband eg Alton lane. This is difficult for running small businesses and also everyday activities eg streaming. Maggie Saunders I Gillie Siw Curtis Certain areas would become more vulnerable than others should the SPB become relaxed or overruled at some future stage. Steps sholud be taken to make unwanted development more difficult should this happen. Preserving TPOs in rear gardens would provide some added security. The south side of Blackberry lane is particularly vulnerable and longer gardens here are currently heavily wooed and an extensive area of wildlife habitat. John Hammond 4 Whilst green areas are mentioned as amenity value I did not see any mention of key areas of the village (indeed most of it where housing is less dense) as being particularly important wild like habitat which has remained by virtue of the nature of the village. This is a very important consideration worthy of inclusion. The importance of updating the village design statements is made in the plan and should be actioned. More detail will be required on style of properties so as to fit with longer standing housing ensuring dense urban styles are prevented and also preventing 21/2 and 3 story building that extremely visible by virtue of our elevated position and are alos out of keeping with the nature, style layout and heritage of the village. John Hammond 3 There appears to be no mention of the importance of maintaining trees and hedges. Hedges are very much the character of the village and ere being removed from front gardens. They should be maintained at all costs. Equally TPOs should be placed on key areas of trees and blanket covers of TPOs considered for certain areas where amenity value is important or where wooded gardens are character of an area. E.g. the gardens of the south side of Blackberry Lane are heavily wooded but new residents are removing them changing the character of the area and John Hammond 2 18 removing wildlife. Congratulations to all involved in crafting the plan. Well done and thank you. A very thorough piece of work. I have added a number of feedback points for your consideration but am grateful of your efforts in producing this important piece of work. The draft plan appears to make an assumption that there will be no need for additional housing outside the SPB before 2028. With population growth and housing need it seems unlikely that government policy will not change abd that additional housing will be required.Therefore it seems sensible to state strong reasons why any future building outside certain areas o the SPB should be totally unacceptable, so as to have a policy in place in case and when government policy and required housing numbers should change before 2028. Without such inclusion in the NP there will be no defence in place should change happen. John Hammond Station Hub - excellent idea but will busineses come and make it sustainable. It is also tucked out of the way at the moment, if Station Approach - the narrow tunnel also throttles access. How will people know it is there. Wildflower Meadow needs to be sensitive to the wildlife 9eg badger setts)at the ancient monument - its beauty is that it is unspoilt and hard to get to and access! Green infrastructure - great idea more footpaths, better maintained will enhance the enjoyment of the local environment. What are the (....) for using the CIL eg upgrading village Halls, youth facilitiesetc It would be useful to have an executive summary of these and other keyy proposals from the plan- for newsletters/magazines, - What are the key takeaways that you want the community to buy into Andrew Jackson A public statement of planning gain should be made annually and audited. All new development should be accompanied by a detailed, auditable, planning review. David Harris Totally agree with the proposal to stop larger scale developments. This is especially important for the Boyneswood Road area, that you rightly describe as 'under siege'. Tim Wettone expand the play area in the park so there is more facilities for children any age Katherine Jackson It is very important that a hollistic approach should be adopted to take into consideration schools, retail outlets, employment opportunities and recreational spaces when new developments are being considered. Mrs E Harris Martin Gillie It is vital to retain the village character whilst acknowledging the need for more housing! Stuart Slater Thank you for all those involved in creating the much needed Neighbourhood Plan! Mrs Marion Suater I am worried about the path be considered from the Medstead School to Four Marks. If this is to be behind a hedge on to Roedowns Road and children are walking behind it, they cannot be seen from the road??? Jennifer McDowell The plan is well thought out and presented. The only area that is not really touched (and I guess it is a little outside the remit) is the road network, but in general - thank you everyone for your hard work. V Evans Particularly concerned that the station goods yard should be preserved. Also on improving lane surfaces this should be done so as not to encourage higher speed from motor cycles and cars. Provision of litter and dog fowling bins Robert Cartwright 19 Very good presentation of the plan. A lot of very work has gone into this. Mr & Mrs B Thompson I hope EHDC listen. Development / new houses acceptable but not enormous estates. Consideration of the infrastructure of the village vital Kay Joluse I disagree with the proposal of a station hub. Access road are residential and themselves developed and narrow. Access to a egress from houses is hazardous. The station is a tourist attraction not a local meeting place. A village hub is a good idea but not in a place where there is no local natural meeting place already. Natural places for a hub would be the shops - either at Four Marks or Lymington Bottom by the surgery or by the church and village hall. The junction of station approach and Winston Rise is already extremely hazardous as is speeding along station approach Mrs Lawrence Involve Forestry Commission and similar organisations to help preserve green spaces and conserve wildlife inhabitants. Birdlife in Medstead and Four Marks is particularly rich because of biodiversity here: altitude, woodland, meadows and hedges. Much of this is being bulldozed to the detriment of our flowers(?) as well Fabio Perseli I am sceptical about the wild flower walk/field on the grounds that: a, it will take a lot of volunteer hours to maintain b, it is artificial Re station hub - yes to a certain amount of development but we already have hubs in Medstead + Reads + village hall/church in FM Elizabeth Graigh A good informative display - well done! Marlene Pink Ruth Monfort The council should be responsible for the repair of pavements and grass verges damaged by new developments (mostly windfalls). The Shrave is a prime example Patrica Brooks Houses need to be built but more small houses for young people please Annette Day Need to stop the village from extending East and West. More facilities at 'ends' of village Need pub and post office Safe road crossings Mark Paton All further development needs to in easy walking distance of amenities. A convenience store is needed at the s/w end of the village - too far to walk from there to the shops S Paton Ann Fowler Wright The proposed hub by the station is an excellent idea John Fowler Wright Interested to hear about wild flower walk proposal. I hadn't about this before today. Great idea. V Goodwright Ian Bennett The existing development of small sites seem to overlook the on-going repair to grass verges and need some accountability to the council G J Brooks H Monfort 20 I should like to see an extension of the wild flower walk into Four Marks. I am pleased to see the SPB proposed holding the line to reduce expansion of the village into countryside along Blackberry lane Richard Paul Better infrastructure needed. PO would be great. More facilities for youth (14 yrs+) Boardman Still no mention os public house to replace the Windmill!! A J SheltonSmith Mrs H Williamson Very excited about the proposed wild flower meadow and the footpaths around the village - a very nice experience. The station hub will be an addd experience for tourists and the community as a whole. Ann Salzman What a great idea for a community centre at the station. Maybe the addition of a 'men's shed' as per the Alton Shed? Anthony Salzman The plan should take into account local housing need. i.e. those on housing list rather than speculator development. I strongly support the SPB and the protection of open spaces and rights of way (footpaths). We really do need a pub and a post office. Better sports/recreational facilities would be good. Roger Coolfer Uncertain if Station hub is best place for village centre but agree with basic idea John Bennett Good plan. Infrastructure concerns need to be addressed Stuart Robbins Diana Robbins Congratulations on your effort These areas need defending against overdevelopment D L Aston I would like to see that character of the area maintained. A a resident of Boyneswood Lane I would have concerns about the lane being made up to take traffic. The lane is a private road and repair is the responsibility of the residents Mr G Cartwright M lee I cannot see the station ever becoming a successful 'village centre'. We do need a village centre but in my opinion it needs to be located near to the shops where most people visit regularly Charles Kyd Leif Goodwin Pleased with presentation and I go away with th feeling that at long last the tide of development is being stemmed and controlled. I especially like the emphasis on trying to retain local businesses. 21 Mrs Margaret Marsh As someone who put their name forward for working groups but was never contacted I find this plan severely lacking and flawed. It may not be a requirement to include future housing in the plan, because of the fact we are already over allocation, but not doing so leaves the village liable to be walked all over by EHDC and developers. These plans are supposed to provide part of the framework for future planning decisions, having no housing details in the plan means anything goes. It has already been established that being over quota is not a reason for denying planning permission so this plan means open season continues. The Station hub appears to be based on the views of just those who don't currently shop in the village, a minority. There is no input on what is needed from those who shop occasionally or regularly. There is no , even basic, financial viability study. Surely given the recent closure of Rumours this would be advisable. It also seems to compete directly with initiatives at Garthowen. Has any discussion been held with the Railway on mutual benefits or possible conflicts. I also seriously doubt people will walk from the existing village centre, where parking is over subscribed, to the new hub. They will wanting to drive there, via limited access to no parking. Green infrastructure could directly impact certain households, what consultation with those on the routes. Wildflower verges on BlackberryLane are not popular/ respected by households involved. Can't repeat this mistake. Wild flower meadow is a nice idea but hardly a strategic issue for the future of the village. This plan is trivial, flawed and not what the village needs. It is very disappointing and could be taken as the work of limited self interest groups. Chris Simons • I am disappointed to lose our Pub • The Scout hut was built as a temporary structure many years ago and is now far too small and not fit for purpose. It has been used by generations of villagers and continues to operate beyond its capacity, with some groups having to meet elsewhere due to lack of space. A much larger replacement is needed which may also have other community uses. Joly Lucas • The station Hub appears to be remote and disconnected from existing shops . Also unlikely to be on a bus route. T Browning • With expanding communities already here who is addressing the issue of infrastructure? School Places Capacity of Health Centres Provision of Road Crossing places. Paul Robins • Water is a major issue – we could be out of it if there is a long dry summer. • A map in the report showing the curtilage lines would be good. Bill Davis • Well done for all the hard work and good luck in negotiating with the establishment. Vanessa Parry • Draft plan was well prepared – Well done. I think an executive summery would help those less interested in the detail • Critically important to stress (as you do)that the road and drainage infrastructure supports the community. Bill Dawson • The Station Hub – No mention in the Plan of bringing on board the vintage bus facility as a Tourist Attraction. John Pettegree • May be this will come later, but when asked ’how big is your town’, as population rather than number of homes/business people. It would be good to know what we are at present and predicted (2028) as demographics. • Again, it may come later but it would be useful to see a map the proposals from walks, meadows and green space. • But the report and analysis is excellent. As I noted in an email (forgotten to whom it was addressed) its’ good to know that somebody/bodies! Locally care about where we live. Grenville Dawson flower meadow excellent idea. • A worry that many elderly live in the current heart of Medstead. If we loose the current convenience store, then they will find it difficult to walk to the new Hub. Suggest that we always retain the convenience store (and Castle of Comfort) where it currently is. Lesley Sheldon Browning 22 • Very Pleased to see new footpaths from Medstead to Four Marks. Chester Whapshare Any extra shops car parks will reduce the rural environment to some extent, so what is best? robert vincent Firstly, well done - I don't think you can underestimate the work that goes into a document like this - so well done to the whole team of people who have laboured to put this together! I do wonder if we have missed 'a trick' in the plan, in that in discussing the level of development that has already occurred, and the places where windfalls may occur in the future, we don't appear to have looked at the demographics and what type of housing might be needed into the future? I have to admit being worried that we will have both younger members of our community and older people in our community, who simply will not be able to find anything small enough that they can either afford (if you're young) or want to have to look after (if your old) because we have had many instances of development of relatively small bungalows into huge houses recently (ignoring all the other development in South Medstead). Whilst I don't want to create more work, in view of trying to create sustainable communities, I wonder if some analysis around the ages of our community and their needs might highlight some particular forms of housing shortages in the area (e.g. affordable rented 2 bed homes?) On the identification of community assets, I wonder whether we should have included the Catholic Church at St. Lucy's (as part of the wider covent facility), the Methodist Church in South Town Road, reference is made to the Sports Pavilion (is this the Cricket Club?) - and should we not also include the Tennis Club and the Bowls Club facilities? I don't know Four Marks as well but should the golf course not feature somewhere? Can I also suggest that in seeking to protect the one and only pub that we have left to us in the area, that we seek to rescind the sui generis option to change the pub to a shop (as happened to the Windmill) so enhancing the protection? Patricia Hughes I am impressed with the forethought evident in the plan, as well as the way it addresses a host of wide-ranging concerns. Well done; I commend it. Paul Duncan Thank you for the hard work put into developing this plan. There is no place 'South Medstead' as stated. The area in question is the SE part of Medstead; this area has heavy air polution from traffic, car parking, and the steam engines which is injurious to health. This area also has very heavy noise polution from the A31 and the noise echo on either side of the valley at Lymington bottom Road. This noise polution was used to advantage during WWi when the searchlights were able to pick up the alien bombers due to the intense noise echo here.Therefore, attention should be given to the huge increase in the noise and atmospheric polution in the area of SE Medstead to ensure the good health of the people. The fields here are essential in minimising this polution.. E. Ewins Very comprehensive and should cover most of the requirements to maintain the character of the village . Most important is to add to the shopping facilities without damaging the current structure and character. Most important is to provide a post office in the village centre. We love the Medstead PO but it is too far away for those, like myself, who cannot reach Medstead or Alton without great difficulty. Dennis Patrick a) Building Density: Area restrictions will increase building pressures within the building boundary. What are the options available to limit garden in-fills? Are the existing regulations (applicable to town planning applications) appropriate to the Proposed Plan? b) Social Amenity Funding: Paragraph 5.7 should specify that no less than fifty percent of S106 receipts will be hypothecated to schemes envisaged under the Plan. It is simply unacceptable that funds designed to answer local needs can be syphoned-off to finance off-plan projects elsewhere. The definition of 'local' urgently needs re-defining to restore a just balance of interests. Robert & Pauline Hughes 23 You lost my vote when you started to use the phase "South Medstead" - I find this term derogatory - we live in the parish of Medstead, there is no mention of this phase on any map, so stop using it. Or is this some underhand way to merge the area with Four Marks?? Eamonn Kentell Water supply is a real problem in what is laughably described as a low pressure area in the response From South East water.. If the power fails (red hill has had 5 brief interruptions in the last 10 days) the water supply fails completely within hours as the water tower is now rapidly emptied by the excessive local demand. Talking to the engineers who attend the tower there is now insufficient supply to the tower during the day to keep up with demand. This results in variable low pressure during the day.At night the tower fills in order to fight another day. As a customer I find it astonishing the my utility supply is so poor that I have had cause to to understand this level of detail of how they are delivered. The current power supply interruptions we are experiencing are unexplained. The electricity supply has always been vulnerable to failure in high winds but now overloading and the combination of interrupting the water supply is completely unacceptable. So to conclude South East Water simply mark where I live as low water pressure but have no intention of dealing with situation. Graham Bennell A very comprehensive high quality plan involving much effort and time. Thank you and well done. Barry Abel Excellent idea to get safe walking path between medstead village and south medstead. The station hub needs a bit more work to provide a real attraction for both the watercress visitors and the local community. andy taylor 24