Transcript (Day 96) - Royal Commission into Institutional Responses

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Transcript (Day 96) - Royal Commission into Institutional Responses
ROYAL COMMISSION INTO INSTITUTIONAL
RESPONSES TO CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE
Public Hearing - Case Study 19
(Day 96)
Level 17, Governor Macquarie Tower
Farrer Place, Sydney
On Wednesday, 22 October 2014 at 10am
Before the Chair:
Commissioner:
Counsel Assisting:
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Justice Peter McClellan AM
Mr Robert Fitzgerald AM
Mr David Lloyd
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MR D LLOYD:
Your Honour, Commissioner, I appear as
counsel assisting the Commission.
THE CHAIR:
Are there any other appearances?
MS M ENGLAND:
May it please your Honour, I appear for the
Department of Family and Community Services.
THE CHAIR:
Yes, I think you already have leave.
anyone else?
Yes,
MR P MENZIES QC:
If your Honour pleases, I appear with my
learned friend Mr Kell, pursuant to leave granted, for the
State of New South Wales -THE CHAIR:
Yes, thank you.
MR MENZIES:
-- and Ms Helen Allison as well, your Honour,
and Mr Ian Knight.
MS M GERACE:
Your Honour and Commissioner, I appear for
Ms Janet Loughman. Leave has been granted.
THE CHAIR:
Very well.
You have leave, yes.
Yes, Mr Lloyd.
Is there anyone else?
MR LLOYD:
Thank you, your Honour. Before I make an
opening statement, could I hand up to your Honour
a pseudonym direction and a direction not to publish,
pursuant to section 6D(3) of the Royal Commissions Act, and
invite your Honour to make that direction and that order.
THE CHAIR:
direction.
Yes, I have made both the order and the
MR LLOYD:
Thank you. Your Honour and Commissioner, this
is the Royal Commission's 19th case study. This case study
concerns allegations of child sexual abuse of a number of
former residents of the Bethcar Children's Home in
Brewarrina, New South Wales and the way that the State
responded to those allegations and the litigation brought
by a number of those former residents.
Bethcar was a home for Aboriginal children which was
run in Brewarrina, and later Orange, by Mr Bert and
Mrs Edith Gordon from about 1969 to 1989. Between about
1974 and 1984 Mr and Mrs Gordon's adopted daughter, [AIT],
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and her husband, Mr Colin Gibson, also resided at Bethcar
and were involved in the running of the home.
Bethcar was, at least for part of the period of its
operation, licensed by and received funding from what is
now known as the Department of Family and Community
Services, which for convenience I'll refer to as "the
department".
Children came to be placed at Bethcar in different
circumstances. Some were admitted to the control of the
State and placed at Bethcar. Some were committed by the
court to the care of Mr and Mrs Gordon, and some were
placed voluntarily by their families.
It is anticipated that each of the former residents
who will be called to give evidence will say that they were
subjected to serious and, in some cases, repeated sexual
abuse by Mr Gibson and Mr Gordon over many years. They
will also give evidence of the devastating effect of that
abuse on them.
This public hearing will inquire into the following
matters: the experience of the former residents of
Bethcar; the monitoring and control of residents of and
operations at Bethcar; the response of the NSW Police to
complaints made by some residents of Bethcar; the conduct
of the civil proceedings brought by 15 former residents of
Bethcar against the State of New South Wales between 2008
and 2013; and the applications made by former residents of
Bethcar for victims compensation and the current operation
of the victims compensation scheme in New South Wales.
There will be particular emphasis on the way in which
the civil proceedings brought by 15 former residents of
Bethcar against the State were conducted. That litigation
had a protracted history. It was commenced in mid-2008 and
concluded earlier this year after a mediation.
At the mediation, each of the former residents who
were still parties to the proceedings agreed to settle
their claims for approximately $107,000 in damages and an
apology. It is anticipated that the evidence will
disclose, by that time, the State's costs were over
$930,000 and the former residents' costs, which the State
agreed to pay, were approximately $1,240,000.
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Whether the manner in which the State conducted the
proceedings was in accordance with the model litigant
policy for civil litigation in New South Wales will be
explored in evidence.
By examining the Bethcar civil litigation in this
public hearing, the Commission expects to highlight
a number of systemic issues that are being examined in its
work on civil litigation, including model litigant
obligations, time limitation defences, the need for
particulars, and the costs and delay in litigation.
The other purpose of this hearing is to explore what
avenues for redress are available to victims of crime in
New South Wales and to contribute to the Commission's work
on redress.
I will now set out the manner in which Bethcar was
established. In February 1969, Mr and Mrs Gordon moved to
Old Mission in Brewarrina and obtained a five-year lease
for the old Brewarrina mission from the Minister for
Aboriginal Affairs. During this period, various local
people in the Aboriginal community began approaching the
Gordons and asking them if they would consider taking
Aboriginal children into their care.
In 1973 Mr Gordon applied to have his home recognised
as a children's home. In February 1974 five children were
committed to the care of Mr Gordon after the magistrate
learned that the department would be assisting Mr Gordon.
In about 1974 the Gordons received a $90,000 government
grant through the Aboriginal Lands Trust, which held title
to the home, for the construction of a new home on the old
mission site.
In 1974 the department conducted three visits to
Bethcar. It also spoke to the local school headmaster
about the welfare of the children residing at Bethcar.
Resident district officers from the department attended
Bethcar several times a year. The officers inspected the
premises to ensure that the facility was operating in
accordance with the licensing conditions under the Child
Welfare Act and in respect of the care of the children in
the home.
On 4 March 1975 the Commonwealth government approved
funds of $10,500 for the Gordons. In addition, the
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department was paying a continuing case grant for the
children for the period October 1974 to March 1975 at the
rate of $10.50 per week per child.
In a press release issued by the Aboriginal Lands
Trust of New South Wales on 21 May 1976, the chairman of
the trust said this:
The establishment of the Bethcar Aboriginal
Children's Home at Brewarrina is a most
unique and important step in the welfare of
disadvantaged Aboriginal children facing
confinement to an institution.
On 7 June 1976 Mr Gordon was granted a permit pursuant to
section 32 of the Child Welfare Act to operate Bethcar for
six months as a children's home pending the approval of
a licence.
The permit specified the following conditions:
keeping no more than 24 children at Bethcar; provision of
adequate and suitable staff; permission, on council
approval, to operate a children's home; compliance with the
Board of Fire Commissioner's recommendations; that children
under two years of age to be accommodated only while Mr and
Mrs Gordon remained in charge; and the provision of
adequate and suitable furnishings.
The section 32 permit was extended for further
six-month periods in December 1976, September 1977 and
January 1978. The five-year lease on the old mission at
Brewarrina was extended to a 25-year lease by 1978.
From 1978 a licence, pursuant to section 29 of the
Child Welfare Act, was granted to Mr Gordon to control
Bethcar Children's Home as a licensed premises. In or
about October 1980 Mr and Mrs Gordon received an award from
the New South Wales Youth and Community Affairs Minister,
Rex Jackson, as childcare parents of the year.
I will now address the anticipated evidence of the
experience of the former residents of Bethcar, who will be
called to give evidence.
As I noted earlier, it is anticipated that the
Commission will hear evidence from a number of former
residents of Bethcar that they were subjected to serious
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and, in some cases, repeated sexual abuse while they were
there. It is anticipated that Ms Kathleen Biles will give
evidence that she was made a ward of the State at the age
of 2 and shortly thereafter placed at Bethcar, where she
resided until she was about 15 years of age.
Ms Biles will give evidence of sexual abuse starting
from when she was about 5 years old. She will recall
complaining to Mrs Gordon the first time the abuse
happened, only to be called a liar and flogged with a belt
and sent to bed.
She will recall several instances of abuse at the
hands of Mr Gordon until she was 15 years old, including
digital penetration, rubbing his penis in her face and
trying to put it in her mouth, oral sex, and full sexual
intercourse. She will give evidence that she told
a welfare officer at the Social Security office in Orange
about the abuse, but she was told that one of the other
girls needed to come forward as well and that nothing
happened.
Ms Biles will describe her experience of making
a complaint to the police about the abuse by Mr Gordon and
of her experience as the lead plaintiff in a civil claim
for compensation against the State. I will say more about
that litigation shortly, and the evidence will also explore
aspects of it.
It is anticipated that Ms Jodie Moore will give
evidence that between the ages of 6 and 16 years she
resided at Bethcar. She will give evidence of sexual abuse
at the hands of both Mr Gordon and Mr Gibson. Ms Moore
will give evidence that she was so afraid of Mr Gibson
coming into her room to sexually abuse her that she wet the
bed until she finally left Bethcar and that she even
deliberately broke her own arm just so that she could get
a break from the sexual abuse.
She will also give evidence that she was sexually
abused, on average, once a week by Mr Gibson, ranging from
digital penetration to full sexual intercourse. She will
give evidence that she often suffered physical pain and
bleeding from her vagina as a result of the assaults. On
occasion, she would run away from Bethcar, only to be
brought back and beaten by Mrs Gordon for running away.
She learned not to tell adults of her problems, for fear of
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causing more problems.
Ms Moore will give evidence that when government
officials came to visit the children at Bethcar, they would
interview them in the presence of the Gordons. Ms Moore
will also give evidence that a welfare officer from DoCS
took her and some other children from Bethcar to the police
station, where statements were taken by the police, but
that the children were returned to Bethcar by the DoCS
officers, only to be beaten by Mr and Mrs Gordon.
Ms Moore will describe her experience of making
a complaint to the police about the abuse by Mr Gibson and
her experience as one of the plaintiffs in the civil claim
for compensation against the State.
It is anticipated that Ms Amelia Moore will give
evidence that between the ages of 6 and 16 years she
resided at Bethcar. She was taken there by her father for
safekeeping after her mother died, as he was an alcoholic.
She will give evidence that she was sexually abused by
Mr Gibson.
There was on occasion when Mr Gibson grabbed her and
tried to push her on the floor of one of the houses and
kiss her on the neck, but they were interrupted by
Mr Gibson's wife. On another occasion, Mr Gibson touched
her on the breast. She told a number of people about that
incident, including a welfare officer with DoCS at the
time.
Ms Amelia Moore will also describe her experience as
one of the plaintiffs in the civil claim for compensation
against the State.
It is anticipated that [AIQ] will give evidence that
she resided at Bethcar from the age of 3 months until she
was 7 or 8 years of age. She will give evidence of sexual
abuse at the hands of Mr Gibson from about the time that
she was 2 or 3. She will give evidence of many occasions
of sexual abuse at the hands of Mr Gibson, including two
incidents when she was 5 years old where he had full sexual
intercourse with her, causing bleeding from her vagina.
[AIQ] will give evidence of another occasion of sexual
assault causing her again to bleed from her vagina and be
late for dinner and that she was flogged by Mrs Gordon for
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being late. She will give evidence that she did not report
the abuse out of fear, until she confided in her foster
sister when she was in her late 30s.
As a plaintiff in the civil proceedings against the
State, [AIQ] will also give evidence that the process was
difficult, in that she had to relive the horrible memories.
It is anticipated that [AIH] will give evidence that
when she was about 11 years old, she was taken from her
mother by the Welfare Department and placed at Bethcar.
She will give evidence of sexual abuse at the hands of
Mr Gibson. On one occasion when she was about 12 years
old, he came into her room and pushed her under the bed,
touching her breasts and rubbing her vagina, only stopping
when someone approached.
She then had to attend a Bible class reading led by
Mr Gibson. [AIH] did not tell anyone about the abuse, as
she felt that no-one believed the other girls when they
complained and thought she would just get a hiding.
Finally, it is anticipated that Ms Leonie Knight will
give evidence that at about the age of 13 she was placed at
Bethcar after being picked up by the police or DoCS and
taken to the Children's Court.
She will give evidence of sexual abuse at the hands of
Mr Gordon almost immediately after arriving at Bethcar.
She will give evidence that in 1983 she went to the police
station in Bourke to make a statement about the abuse but
that no action was taken at that time.
As a plaintiff in the civil proceedings, Ms Knight
will give evidence that she found the process extremely
stressful.
All of the women will give evidence of the devastating
effect the sexual abuse has had upon their lives, including
alcohol, drug, and mental health problems, problems with
intimacy, violent domestic relationships. And difficulties
in caring for their children and holding down employment.
I will now address the circumstances in which the
department and the police became aware of problems at
Bethcar.
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The evidence is expected to disclose that the
department was aware of problems with sexual abuse at
Bethcar from at least early 1980 and that problems with
sexual abuse at Bethcar were brought to the department's
attention on a number of occasions in 1983 and 1984.
On 5 March 1980, Mr Terry Madden, the resident
district officer of the department at Brewarrina, was
requested by the Brewarrina police to attend the station
because the police had received some information about
Bethcar.
Allegations had been made by a number of residents of
Bethcar about Mr Colin Gibson. There was an interview at
Brewarrina police station between the police and the girls
on 5 March 1980. The girls told the police that Mr Gibson
had made a pass at one resident, was seen peeping at some
of the residents through bedroom windows, and had touched
the breasts of another resident, Ms Amelia Moore, who as
noted, will give evidence at this hearing.
Allegations were also made by Ms Jodie Moore, who will
also give evidence, that she had woken in the night to see
Mr Gibson hiding between beds dressed in his underpants or
pyjamas. She also saw him peeping at her through a bedroom
window.
Mr Madden was present at the interview. After it, he
prepared a memorandum titled "Problems at Bethcar
Children's Home, Brewarrina". In that memorandum, he
observed that at the interview the Bethcar girls had
"answered their questions very truthfully and without any
prompting and appeared to be genuine in their belief that
these episodes had occurred".
Mr Madden
the outcome of
that Mr Gordon
received about
concluded that the department should await
the police inquiries, but expressed concerns
had not taken action about complaints he had
Mr Gibson, who was his son-in-law.
The Brewarrina police then referred the matter to
Bourke detectives, who apparently planned to brief a female
detective from Dubbo, Ms Kaye McMahon. The proposal was
for Detective McMahon to travel to Brewarrina to interview
all the Bethcar girls to ascertain whether charges should
be laid.
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After that initial interview at Brewarrina, two
detectives interviewed the girls from Bethcar who had made
the complaints. At this interview, however, the girls
advised that they had no complaints to make. On this
occasion, they stated that they were quite happy at Bethcar
and had no problems.
It is anticipated that the evidence will disclose that
the girls had all been returned to Bethcar between the
first interview and the second interview.
Mr Madden recorded in a further memorandum dated 8 May
1980 that he was "still apprehensive about whether Colin
did or did not do anything" and that when he attended the
police interview on 5 March 1980 "the girls appeared to be
composed and did not appear to be telling lies".
Mr Madden's conclusion was that as there was no police
action, the only course the department could take would be
to adopt a watching brief. The decision was taken by
Mr Madden not to place any further children into the
Bethcar home at this stage.
On 28 September 1983, Mr I Robinson, the resident
district officer at Bourke, prepared a memorandum in which
reference was made to allegations by a resident at Bethcar,
Ms Leonie Knight, about abuse at Bethcar by Mr Gordon. It
appears that Ms Knight's parents did not wish to pursue any
allegations in respect of Mr Gordon.
Subsequently, Ms KL Fishburn, relieving resident
district officer, employed by the department at Brewarrina,
prepared a further memorandum headed "Alleged child sexual
abuse in respect of Leonie Knight". This memorandum
recorded that her investigation revealed that one of the
residents, then aged about 7, appeared to share a bed with
Mr Gordon.
Ms Fishburn said that she was "very concerned that the
allegations of sexual abuse in respect of Leonie Knight
have not been followed up and more information gathered".
In a report dated 16 November 1983 Mr Bruce Foat,
acting operations manager (Western Region) of the
department, recorded a visit by him and Ms Anne Dimech,
resident district officer at Brewarrina, to Bethcar on
17 October 1983. The report records allegations by various
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residents, including that Mr Gordon had touched one of the
residents' breasts and was in and out of her room all the
time and was doing the same to other girls at Bethcar.
Consideration was given as to what steps the
department should take. The conclusion was that "to not
investigate these allegations fully, even if there is no
substance to them, is to leave children at Bethcar in an
unacceptable at-risk situation". It was resolved to put
the available evidence in the hands of police, and this
occurred.
There is no evidence of any further action the
department took in relation to this matter.
On 9 April 1984 Ms Dimech referred to a complaint by
Ms Amelia Moore, including that Mr Gordon had called her
a "cock sucker" while she was at Bethcar. Ms Moore was
15 years old at the time.
On 10 April 1984 the NSW Police department wrote to
Mr CJ Wilson, acting resident district officer of the
western regional office of the department. The letter was
in respect of allegations made by Ms Leonie Knight about
Mr Gibson. The police said that in the absence of
a complaint that would substantiate court action, the
police believed that any further action would be
unsuccessful and "would only result in undermining the
relationship that currently exists between police and the
Aboriginal community in this area".
There is no evidence of further action by the
department in relation to this matter.
The department conducted two reviews of Bethcar in
1984 to consider whether it was appropriate for Bethcar to
be moved from Brewarrina to Orange. It was recommended
that approval be given for the home to move to Orange. The
Bethcar home was moved to Orange in about 1984 and operated
there until it was closed down in 1989.
I will now address the relevant events concerning when
complaints were made by some former residents to the police
after Bethcar was closed.
In December 1999 Ms Jodie Moore made a complaint to
the police about sexual assaults perpetrated on her in
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about 1987 while she was a resident at Bethcar.
nominated Mr Gibson as the offender.
Ms Moore
The police investigated. The investigation revealed
the following: one, on or about 8 June 2001,
Senior Constable Amanda Kelly located a record of interview
held at the Bourke branch of the department between
Constable Kylie Millhouse and a former resident of Bethcar
then aged 13, dated 9 November 1992. In that interview,
the victim disclosed that Colin Gibson and [REDACTED],
presumably Bert Gordon, had indecently assaulted her at
various times.
Two, on 10 December 2002 the police spoke to
a Mr Graeme Eggins. Mr Eggins was a DoCS worker at
Brewarrina in the late 1970s and 1980s. He remembered an
allegation of sexual abuse in relation to a resident at
Bethcar he believed was in relation to Mr Gordon. He
recalled that he had documented the complaint on the DoCS
files at the time.
Thirdly, on 12 December 2002 the police interviewed
Mr Terry Madden, the author of the memoranda referred to
earlier. Mr Madden told the police that he "believed that
the children were telling the truth and that Colin Gibson
was a risk".
Fourthly, the police also interviewed Mr John Hayes on
12 December 2002. Mr Hayes recalled an investigation
relating to Ms Leonie Knight of sexual assault by
Mr Gordon.
Complaints were subsequently made by [AIE], [AII],
[AIO] and [AIH] about sexual abuse by Mr Gibson.
A complaint was made by Ms Kathleen Biles about abuse by
Mr Gordon.
Mr Gibson was charged with a number of offences as
follows: five counts of sexual assault of Ms Jodie Moore
between 1976 and 1983 when Ms Moore was aged between 5 and
13; a count of sexual assault and a count of assault and
indecency in relation to [AIE] between 1979 and 1980, when
she was aged between 7 and 9; a count of assault and
indecency in relation to [AII] in 1978 when she was aged
between 10 and 11; a count of sexual assault of [AIO]
between 1976 and 1977 when she was aged between 6 and 7;
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and a count of assault and indecency in relation to [AIH]
in 1980 when she was aged between 12 and 13.
In October 2006, the trial concerning the allegations
made by Ms Jodie Moore commenced. Mr Gibson was found
guilty. On 19 April 2007 Mr Gibson was found guilty in
respect of the allegations made by [AIO]. Mr Gibson was
sentenced in respect of the [AIO] offences to 12 years'
imprisonment and, it appears, a total of 18 years'
imprisonment in respect of the Jodie Moore offences.
Mr Gibson pleaded guilty to the charges in relation to
the [AII] offences on or about 12 April 2007.
In light of those developments, [AIH] and [AIE]
indicated they did not wish to proceed with their
complaints. They had given evidence at the earlier trials.
As a consequence, it appears that the complaints of [AIH]
and [AIE] were no billed.
A decision was taken by the police not to charge
Mr Gordon in respect of the complaint by Ms Kathleen Biles
based on a lack of corroboration and the fact that
Mr Gordon was elderly and in poor health and was unlikely
to live to see the matters progress to trial. Mr Gordon
passed away in 2006.
However, Detective Senior Constable PE Freer said this
in a memorandum dated 20 February 2008:
It is my view that Kathleen Biles'
complaints are legitimate. There should
not be a negative inference taken from the
fact that police were unable to prosecute
in her specific case. Kathleen Biles
presented as a person of excellent
character and integrity. Further to this,
she showed a great deal of courage to
travel from her home in North Queensland
and give evidence in a tendency witness
capacity at the trial of Colin Gibson in
Dubbo.
I will next deal with the civil litigation that was brought
by some of the former residents.
In May 2008 two former residents of Bethcar, [AIL] and
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Douglas Biles, commenced proceedings against the State in
the District Court of New South Wales, making allegations
that they were sexually abused while at Bethcar by
Mr Gordon and Mr Gibson; that the State was vicariously
liable for the actions of Mr Gordon and Mr Gibson; and,
also, that the State was liable for the failures by the
department to act on the knowledge that they had of the
sexual abuse at Bethcar.
Bell & Johnson Solicitors were acting for [AIL] and
Mr Douglas Biles.
On or about 13 June 2008 Mr Richard Kelly, Assistant
Crown Solicitor, Torts-Service/Regulatory, at the Crown
Solicitor's Office, allocated the proceedings commenced to
a solicitor then employed by the Crown Solicitor's Office,
Mr Evangelos Manollaras, a grade I-III solicitor, under the
supervision of Ms Helen Allison, a senior solicitor.
On 18 June 2008, the Crown Solicitor's Office wrote to
Bell & Johnson noting that although the statement of claim
was filed on behalf of two plaintiffs, only [AIL]'s name
was recorded on the front page. The point was that
Mr Biles' name should also be on the front page.
A point was also taken that each action should be
separately pleaded, with its own statement of claim and
statement of particulars, and that the claims were brought
well outside of the limitation period.
On 15 July 2008 a statement of claim was filed on
behalf of 13 plaintiffs who were former residents of
Bethcar. The allegations made were very similar to the
allegations made in the [AIL] proceedings.
The solicitor for those 13 plaintiffs was Ms Janet
Loughman, the principal solicitor of the Women's Legal
Services NSW. The Women's Legal Services NSW is
a State-wide, government-funded, not-for-profit legal
community centre, which was established to provide
community legal services to women, particularly those who
are disadvantaged in their access to justice.
The 13 plaintiffs brought their action against the
State in one statement of claim. Those 13 plaintiffs were
Kathleen Biles, [AII], Jodie Moore, [AIE], [AIG], [AIO],
[AIH], [AIN], Amelia Moore, Leonie Knight, [AIQ], [AIS] and
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[AIF]. The file for the proceedings commenced by the
Women's Legal Services for the 13 plaintiffs was also
allocated to Mr Manollaras. The Crown Solicitor's Office
retained junior counsel, Mr Patrick Saidi, at an early
stage.
On 7 August 2008 the Crown Solicitor's Office issued
a lengthy request for particulars to the solicitors for
[AIL] and Mr Biles. On 10 September 2008 the plaintiffs in
the Kathleen Biles proceedings filed a motion that both
proceedings be tried together with evidence in one matter
being evidence in the other.
Both sets of proceedings were listed for directions on
11 September 2008. The judicial registrar stated that she
wanted to see a separate statement of claim in respect of
each of the 15 plaintiffs. However, counsel for the
plaintiffs noted that a motion had been filed seeking to
amalgamate all the actions into one statement of claim.
On 22 December 2008 the Women's Legal Services wrote
to the Crown Solicitor's Office asking the Crown
Solicitor's Office whether the State was intending to raise
a limitation defence and whether the State was prepared to
admit any allegations made in the statement of claim.
On 23 December 2008 the Crown Solicitor's Office
replied stating that its present instructions were to raise
a limitation defence and, in view of the state of the
pleadings, it was not possible to make any admissions.
On 9 February 2009 the Women's Legal Services filed
a notice of motion seeking a declaration that at all
relevant times each of the plaintiffs was under
a disability within the meaning of section 52 of the
Limitation Act, thereby suspending the running of time
under that Act and, in the alternative, that the limitation
period be extended.
On 11 February 2009 the State filed a notice of motion
in the [AIL] proceedings seeking orders that the statement
of claim be struck out or that proceedings be dismissed.
The notice of motion came on for hearing before
Judge Knox on 1 and 8 May 2009. Judge Knox held that the
actions should be consolidated, with evidence in one being
evidence in all other matters. His Honour made orders that
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the plaintiffs provide further particulars.
On or about 10 June 2009 the particulars were provided
by the plaintiffs, as ordered by Judge Knox.
The Crown Solicitor's Office wrote to counsel on
23 June 2009 about the proceedings. In that letter, it was
asserted that the plaintiffs were attempting to avoid
providing particulars. The possibility of an early
resolution of the proceedings was raised. It was noted
that this had not been discussed with the department. The
Crown Solicitor's Office said that it wanted to discuss the
issue with counsel before raising it with the department.
The Crown Solicitor's Office suggested that the
possibility of an early resolution of the proceedings might
be discussed at an upcoming conference with the department
scheduled for 29 June. A conference did occur between
Mr Saidi, Mr Arblaster, another barrister retained by the
Crown Solicitor's Office, Mr Manollaras and Ms Young from
the department on 29 June 2009.
The notes of the conference record no discussion of
the prospect of early resolution.
On 23 September 2009 the Women's Legal Services wrote
to the Crown Solicitor's Office on behalf of all plaintiffs
to the effect that the State's complaints about lack of
particulars were not well founded.
On 1 October 2009 the Crown Solicitor's Office replied
to the Women's Legal Services complaining that the
particulars supplied were inadequate. On 2 October 2009
the Crown Solicitor's Office wrote to the department and
sought to clarify the department's attitude to whether
attempts should be made to settle the claims.
On 8 October 2009 Ms Young responded to the Crown
Solicitor's Office noting that she had given instructions
to pursue the interlocutory matters, including the
limitation defence, and that it was not appropriate at that
stage to make anything other than purely economic offers to
the plaintiffs.
The proceedings were listed before the court for
directions on 16 October 2009. On that occasion, orders
were made requiring each plaintiff, by 27 November, to
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provide further particulars of their claims.
On 4 November 2009 Mr Manollaras wrote to Mr Saidi
referring to a conference with the department scheduled for
12 November 2009. The Crown Solicitor's Office noted that
Ms Young wished to discuss the options open to the
department in relation to resolving the claims.
Mr Manollaras, in the letter, noted that on
a commercial basis if the matter could be resolved for up
to $400,000 plus costs, it might save the department that
amount in costs alone. In the letter, Mr Manollaras said
that he agreed with earlier comments of Mr Saidi that "the
junior counsel for the plaintiffs, Ms Wall, and the
solicitor from the Women's Legal Services NSW, are more
motivated in pursuing this action than any of the
plaintiffs themselves".
In that letter, Mr Manollaras also said that if it was
the case that the department or Minister had any direct
supervisory responsibility in relation to Bethcar and if it
was established that the department took no steps to
protect the plaintiffs, the court would be scathing in its
criticism of the department.
He also noted that the department was obliged, as
a model litigant, to consider mediation and asked counsel
to give this some thought. A suggestion was made that
Mr Saidi might telephone Mr Catsanos, lead counsel for the
plaintiffs, to discuss the question of settlement.
Mr Saidi responded in writing on 10 November 2009
reporting a discussion with Ms Wall of counsel where she
had indicated that, on a compromise basis, each plaintiff
was "worth $200,000 at a minimum". In that letter,
Mr Saidi reported his view "that a number of the
plaintiffs, if not a majority of them, are nowhere near as
interested in the pursuit of these proceedings as their
lawyers may be. One would suspect that some of the
plaintiffs would accept any reasonable offer made in these
proceedings".
Further particulars were provided by the plaintiffs,
as ordered, on 27 November 2009. On that day, the Women's
Legal Services wrote to the Crown Solicitor's Office
inquiring as to whether the State wished to participate in
a formal mediation, noting "that the litigation would be
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complex, expensive, and for our clients emotionally
demanding".
The Crown Solicitor's Office wrote to Mr Saidi on
1 December 2009. The Crown Solicitor's Office made the
following observation in relation to the Women's Legal
Services proposal for mediation:
I may be wrong, but I get the impression
that the Women's Legal Services NSW' view
of mediation is a situation where the
defendant turns up with a chequebook and,
after some polite conversation with the
plaintiffs' lawyers and several cups of
coffee, the plaintiffs walk off with
damages in the order of what was discussed
between Mr Catsanos, somewhere in the
vicinity of $3 million.
The Crown Solicitor's Office in that letter said that
whilst mediation may be an option, it could not be
considered at this stage while the plaintiffs had not
particularised their claims, and that it might be possible
to agree in principle to a mediation subject to there being
a timetable in relation to particulars and the service of
medical evidence and that this was an alternative to
running the matter to trial.
The Crown Solicitor's Office noted that they had not
shared any of the views in the letter with the department
and would await counsel's consideration.
On 1 December 2009 the Crown Solicitor's Office wrote
to the department, including in relation to the Women's
Legal Services' suggestion to mediate. A point was made
that it might be too early to mediate, although it would be
possible to set up a timetable with a view to mediating the
matter in, say, 12 months' time rather than running it at
trial in four or five years' time.
On 3 December 2009 Mr Saidi wrote to the Crown
Solicitor's Office saying that mediation was always a good
option for a defendant; however, for it to be effective, it
required the plaintiffs' lawyers to understand and
appreciate the legal issues. He recorded doubts as to
whether the plaintiffs' legal advisers "have even the most
basic idea as to what the legal issues are and what
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liability problems each plaintiff faces".
It is anticipated that the evidence will disclose that
on 26 February 2010 Ms Allison ceased to be the person
responsible for supervising Mr Manollaras.
On 29 March 2010 the Crown Solicitor's Office
obtained a statement from Mr Terry Madden, who I referred
to earlier. In that statement, Mr Madden accepted that he
should have taken more action when he became aware of the
problems at Bethcar in March 1980. Mr Madden also said
that based on his experience in sexual abuse
investigations, he "formed the view that Ms Jodie Moore and
Ms Amelia Moore were being honest in what they had said".
In June 2010 defences were filed on behalf of the
State. Liability was denied. In relation to [AII], the
State did not admit the allegation that she had suffered
injury at Bethcar when subjected to physical, mental,
emotional and sexual abuse perpetrated by the Gordons and
Mr Gibson.
The same non-admission was made in respect of Ms Jodie
Moore and [AIO]. It will be remembered that Mr Gibson had
been convicted by a jury in respect of the allegations of
abuse by Ms Jodie Moore and [AIO] and that he had pleaded
guilty to the abuse of [AII]. The allegations of abuse
were also not admitted for each of the other plaintiffs.
The proceedings were listed for directions on 21 June
2010. On that occasion, the judicial registrar raised the
prospect that the matters might be resolved at mediation.
Mr Manollaras instructed counsel appearing for the State
that the State was not interested in a mediation at that
time.
The Crown Solicitor's Office estimated by that stage
the potential witness list for the State was "over 70".
In an email reporting to Ms Young of the department,
Mr Manollaras on 22 June 2010 raised the possibility of
undertaking some surveillance on at least some of the
plaintiffs and suggested an initial budget of $20,000 to
$30,000 to undertake surveillance.
The Crown Solicitor's Office received a statement from
Ms Kathryn Fishburn dated 30 June 2010. Ms Fishburn had
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been employed by the department, and she relieved as the
resident district officer at Brewarrina for six weeks
during 1983. Ms Fishburn, in her statement, said that she
was taken aback by the sleeping arrangements at Bethcar,
where Mr Gordon slept with one of the boys who lived at
Bethcar. She could not remember what action she took about
the situation she observed at Bethcar.
On 6 July 2010 Mr Manollaras wrote to Mr Saidi
commenting on the statement of Ms Fishburn. In that email,
Mr Manollaras made comments about allegations that
Ms Leonie Knight had made to the effect that Mr Gordon had
"comforted her by hugging her, kissing her and fondling her
breasts".
In that correspondence, Mr Manollaras wondered whether
Ms Leonie Knight had exaggerated her account. He also said
this:
For example, a distressed child could be
comforted in a normal manner by a hug and
a kiss. Granted I am having problem with
fondling of breasts, but I still think it
is a quantum leap, even if there was some
fondling of breasts, to conclude sexual
interference.
At the time of the alleged incident, Ms Leonie Knight was
14 years of age.
Mr Manollaras also said that while the focus had been
on whether the plaintiffs could establish a nexus between
Bethcar and the department, he was now wondering "whether
there was any abuse, to start with".
Mr Manollaras attended a conference with Mr Saidi and
Mr Arblaster on 25 August 2010. In that conference,
counsel advised that the best bet for the defendant was to
"knock off" as many plaintiffs as possible on the
limitation question.
Mr Manollaras also recorded his suggestion at the
conference that the best bet in relation to settling the
cases was to assess what we felt the claims were worth if
they were successful, add 10 per cent and then serve an
offer of compromise.
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On 10 December 2010 there was a telephone conversation
between Mr Manollaras and Ms Young from the department.
There was a difference in opinion, in that Ms Young felt
that the plaintiffs probably were sexually abused, and
Mr Manollaras still doubted it.
On 14 December 2010 Mr Manollaras sent an email to
Mr Arblaster. He noted that in terms of independent
witnesses called at Mr Gibson's trials, all that he could
come up with was the plaintiffs themselves and a couple of
DoCS officers. Mr Manollaras said that he was "looking for
someone outside the circle of the plaintiffs themselves to
corroborate even one aspect of the plaintiffs'
allegations".
On 22 December 2010 Mr Manollaras reported to Ms Young
about the listing of the matters in court the previous day.
In that email, Mr Manollaras recorded the possibility of
the hearing for the limitation motion taking in excess of
six weeks and that:
I am still doubtful as to whether the
plaintiffs were sexually molested, at least
not in the manner in which they allege in
the statement of claim. In fact, I am
having some difficulty in understanding how
a jury convicted Gibson.
Mr Manollaras, on 3 March
counsel commenting on a report
Skinner in relation to [AIH].
observations about that report
that the reason that [AIH] may
abuse by Mr Gibson was that it
2011, sent an email to
of psychiatrist Dr Yvonne
The email contains detailed
and contains a suggestion
not wish to talk about the
did not happen.
It will be remembered that [AIH] was one of the
witnesses who had given evidence in the trial of Mr Gibson
at which he was found guilty.
On 12 May 2011 Mr Manollaras wrote to Mr Cashion SC,
who had been retained to appear on the limitation motion.
Reference was made to a conversation between Mr Saidi and
Mr Catsanos about the question of settlement.
Mr Manollaras' understanding was that the plaintiffs had
indicated that they wanted an acknowledgment and a modest
amount of money. He expressed the view was taken that an
apology should not be made because:
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Firstly, I don't ever recall the State
apologising for anything; secondly, as to
the sexual assaults, I have a very strong
doubt that anything occurred at all in most
cases.
An investigator, Mr Maxwell, provided his affidavit on
17 May 2011 setting out a number of witnesses who he was
unable to locate. He did not disclose in that affidavit
the witnesses that he was able to locate. This is the
course that he had been asked to adopt by the Crown
Solicitor's Office.
The proceedings were listed for directions before the
court on 9 June 2011. Orders were made for the State to
complete service of its evidence on the limitation question
and the matter was stood over for further directions on
5 August 2011. There was some discussion that the
limitation motion might proceed in only one of the cases,
and there was also some discussion between the parties
about a mediation.
The Crown Solicitor's Office, in a report to the
department, noted that "the plaintiffs would like to
mediate. They have made noises that they might settle for
an apology, some cash, and costs".
The Crown Solicitor's Office, through Mr Manollaras,
advised that it was not in a position to recommend an
apology and that:
There is, in my view, a big question mark
whether anything really happened, despite
the plaintiffs' allegations, meriting an
apology.
On 26 July 2011 Mr Manollaras sent an email to
Mr Arblaster and Mr Woods, another barrister retained by
the Crown Solicitor's Office. In that email, Mr Manollaras
made reference to the observations of Detective Constable
Freer about Ms Kathleen Biles referred to earlier to the
effect that she was a credible witness.
Mr Manollaras recorded his concern about
Detective Constable Freer's observations about
Ms Kathleen Biles and said that "I don't think Detective
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Constable Freer is being objective".
On 3 August 2011 the Women's Legal Services wrote to
the Crown Solicitor's Office in relation to a proposal to
have the limitation issue dealt with by reference to
Ms Kathleen Biles and Ms Leonie Knight. In that letter,
the Women's Legal Services also noted that their clients
sought a mediation and asked the State to consider paying
for the cost of the mediation, that an Aboriginal community
representative be present, and that the plaintiffs wanted
an acknowledgment of the experiences that they had to
endure while residing at Bethcar.
On 4 August 2011, the following day, Mr Manollaras
sent an email to Mr Arblaster and Mr Woods noting that the
Crown Solicitor's Office would not agree to a mediation
before the limitation issue was resolved in respect of all
15 plaintiffs and recording his suspicion that the
department would not accept it, either, and that the
department would instruct the Crown Solicitor's Office to
oppose any attempt for the court to impose a mediation
order.
Mr Woods, in reply, noted that the fact that the
limitation defence had not been determined was not a reason
not to have a mediation.
On 4 August 2011, the same day, the Crown Solicitor's
Office sought instructions about whether to agree to a test
case being run on the limitation question and in that email
seeking instructions said that, subject to the department's
instructions, the department should oppose any attempt for
a court-imposed mediation order.
It appears that Mr Manollaras was concerned that, at
the mediation, the plaintiffs would want an acknowledgment
from the department about the experiences they had to
endure at Bethcar and that they would want the State to pay
for the mediation and the presence of an Aboriginal
community representative.
The view was recorded by Mr Manollaras that, "I have
yet to see any evidence that what the plaintiffs allege
happened."
On 4 August 2011, over three years after the
proceedings had been commenced, the Crown Solicitor's
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Office responded to the Women's Legal Services on the
question of mediation and said that the State did not
oppose mediating the dispute "at an appropriate time. That
time has not yet arrived. The defendant has previously
indicated - and the court has acknowledged - that it would
be premature to mediate prior to the hearing of the
limitation applications or at least one application".
On 5 August 2011 the court made orders that the
limitation question should be determined in relation to
Ms Kathleen Biles, and that issue was fixed for hearing on
20 February 2012 for three days
On 1 February 2012, Mr Cashion SC and Mr Arblaster
gave a written opinion stating that the prospects of
success of an application seeking a stay or dismissal or
striking out of all 15 claims were sufficiently high to
have reasonable prospects of success and good prospects
before the Court of Appeal. They recommended filing an
application returnable at the hearing of the limitation
question on 20 February 2012.
The Women's Legal Services wrote on 6 February 2012
foreshadowing an objection to the motion being heard,
because further investigation and preparation would be
necessary to be in a position to meet it.
On 14 February 2012 the District Court vacated the
hearing date of Ms Kathleen Biles' limitation motion on the
basis that the plaintiffs were not in a position to respond
to the State's motion. An order was made that the State
pay the plaintiffs' costs.
On 11 May 2012 the Women's Legal Services made an
offer of compromise for [AII] on the basis that there be
a verdict for the defendant with each party to bear their
own costs. Advice was sought by the Crown Solicitor's
Office from counsel about that matter, and on 16 May 2012
Mr Woods recommended that the offer be accepted.
The Crown Solicitor's Office sought further advice
from counsel about whether to accept [AII]'s offer to walk
away from the proceedings. Mr Cashion SC and Mr Arblaster
gave an advice dated 25 May 2012 recommending that the
State accept [AII]'s offer of compromise and expressing the
view that mediation is not suitable until the limitation
and stay applications, at least for Kathleen Biles, have
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been determined.
They recommended that a "proactive settlement strategy
should nonetheless be pursued, involving targeted
settlement offers to individual plaintiffs".
On 28 May 2012 a memorandum was prepared by Mr Derek
Smith, Acting Director, Legal Services with the department.
In that memorandum, Mr Smith noted that the Crown
Solicitor's Office estimate of costs, including estimated
damages, was currently $4.4 million. Mr Smith also stated
that Legal Services was of the view that further
consideration on the question of offers to other plaintiffs
should be explored with the Crown Solicitor's Office.
The department provided instructions on 5
the Crown Solicitor's Office to accept [AII]'s
compromise and noted that the department would
instructions regarding the other plaintiffs on
consideration of the matter.
June 2012 to
offer of
revert with
further
On 13 August 2012 Ms Allison resumed the role of
supervising Mr Manollaras. On 16 August 2012 the Crown
Solicitor's Office wrote to the department noting, amongst
other things, that the State's professional costs and
disbursements at that time totalled approximately $706,000.
On 22 August 2012 Ms Glynis Ingram of the department
wrote a memorandum stating that instructions should be
given to the CSO to enable it to make appropriate offers,
but only after the Crown Solicitor's Office had provided
further advice as to quantum and liability.
On 2 October 2012 Ms Kathleen Biles made an offer of
compromise for judgment in the sum of $170,000 plus costs.
On 25 October 2012 the Crown Solicitor's Office
provided an advice to the department in relation to
Ms Biles' offer and said that the Crown Solicitor's Office
would not recommend accepting it.
On 5 November 2012 the Crown Solicitor's Office wrote
to the department recommending that an offer be made to
Ms Biles providing for a verdict for the defendant with
each party to pay their own costs. Those instructions were
provided, and that offer was made. By this time, it
appears that Benish Haider had assumed day-to-day charge of
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the matter under the supervision of Ms Allison.
The notices of motion came on for hearing in the
District Court on 12 November 2012 and proceeded until
15 November 2012, on which occasion they were stood over
part heard. It was the Crown Solicitor's Office's view
that during the course of the hearing it emerged that the
judge was likely to find in favour of the plaintiff on the
limitation issue. Instructions were sought to withdraw the
limitation defence.
A particular difficulty arose during the hearing
because the plaintiffs called for the production by
Mr Maxwell, the investigator, of documents which comprised
his investigations disclosing what evidence he had been
able to locate. In his affidavits, he had only referred to
the evidence which had been lost. The State claimed
privilege over the documents and refused to produce them.
After the motions were stood over part heard, the
plaintiffs issued a subpoena for production seeking from
Mr Maxwell the evidence that he had been able to obtain.
The State filed a motion seeking to set aside that
subpoena.
On 10 December 2012 instructions were provided by the
department to withdraw the limitation defence, and that
occurred.
On 13 December 2012 Judge Curtis dismissed the State's
motion seeking to set aside the subpoena and ordered the
State to pay the plaintiffs' costs of that motion.
On 13 December 2012 the department and the Crown
Solicitor's Office spoke again. The Crown Solicitor's
Office advised that Judge Curtis had delivered judgment
dismissing the State's motion. The Crown Solicitor's
Office by this time was working on a quantum and liability
advice, called a Q&L, and said that the Crown Solicitor's
Office had asked counsel why a Q&L had not been done.
Counsel said that it was because Mr Manollaras had
a particular view that the limitation question should be
pursued prior to a Q&L.
On the advice of the Crown Solicitor's Office,
instructions were given by the department to launch an
application for leave to appeal to the Court of Appeal of
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New South Wales against the decision of Judge Curtis.
A notice of intention to appeal was filed on 20 December
2012.
At about this time, a memorandum was prepared by the
department seeking that a decision be made to instruct the
Crown Solicitor's Office to invite the plaintiffs to attend
a mediation.
On 15 April 2013 the Crown Solicitor's Office provided
a detailed advice as to quantum and liability. In that
advice, the Crown Solicitor's Office advised that the State
had a reasonable chance of defending the claims. The Crown
Solicitor's Office noted that the damages estimate was
currently $3 million and the estimate of the plaintiffs'
costs was $650,000.
Costs and disbursements to date for the State were
said to be $930,000. The Crown Solicitor's Office
recommended that an offer of compromise be made on the
basis of a judgment for the defendant with each party to
pay their own costs.
The department prepared a briefing note on 13 June
2013 in which it was recommended that advice be sought as
to alternative methods to resolve the matter than those
raised by the Crown Solicitor's Office and recorded the
department's view that the conclusions of the Crown
Solicitor's Office "do not adequately consider the risks of
proceeding to a hearing of the substantive matter".
On 13 June 2013 Ms Allison sent an email to the
department noting that she had had a conference with senior
and junior counsel about resolution of the matter that
morning and that senior counsel's view was that "mediation
would be extremely expensive, difficult and likely to fail
and that a more cost-effective approach would be for him to
speak with Mr Catsanos and invite an offer".
On 9 July 2013 the department instructed the Crown
Solicitor's Office to prepare an advice on settlement and
quantum and that it wanted a telephone conference arranged
to discuss the matter. That conference occurred on 15 July
2013, on which occasion the department instructed the Crown
Solicitor's Office to explore mediation and resolve the
matter as expeditiously and cheaply as possible, given the
Court of Appeal hearing in November 2013.
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On 13 August 2013 the Crown Solicitor's Office
prepared an advice. In that advice, the Crown Solicitor's
Office conducted an assessment of damages for each
plaintiff. The assessment for each plaintiff varied, but
the total damages, excluding costs, allowed for by the
Crown Solicitor's Office was $1,349,000, at the high end of
the range.
A mediation was scheduled to occur. On 6 December
2013 the department gave instructions that it would bear
the costs of the mediation. The mediation occurred on
17 December 2013. Ms Mary Walker, a very experienced
mediator, was appointed. At the mediation an apology was
delivered on behalf of the department. At the mediation
all proceedings were resolved on the basis of a verdict for
each of the active plaintiffs in the sum of $107,142.85;
the State to pay the plaintiffs' costs in the Kathleen
Biles proceedings in the sum of $892,000; and the State to
pay the plaintiffs' costs in the [AIL] proceedings in the
sum of $352,000.
It is anticipated that Ms Allison from the Crown
Solicitor's Office will give evidence about the conduct of
the civil litigation by the Crown Solicitor's Office,
including that by not properly pleading their claims, the
Crown Solicitor's Office could not properly assess the
merits of the plaintiffs' claims; the plaintiffs' pleadings
did not indicate any basis for any extension to the
limitation period; at the early stages of the proceedings,
it was considered premature to mediate; and she found no
evidence of the model litigant obligations not being met by
the State and that, in her opinion, the model litigant
policy was complied with.
As noted earlier, each of the victims giving evidence
in this public hearing applied for victims compensation in
relation to the sexual abuse they suffered while at
Bethcar. They sought this compensation before they
commenced the civil proceedings against the State. Each
victim was awarded an amount of compensation ranging from
$8,000 to the statutory maximum at the time of $50,000.
The victims compensation legislation at the time
required that any sum of victims compensation be repaid out
of any compensation awarded by a court with respect to the
same crime. However, in this case, the plaintiffs were
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notified in September this year that the director of
victims services had waived that repayment obligation, so
that each victim has been entitled to keep their victims
compensation award, as well as the amount paid in the
District Court proceedings.
It is anticipated that 14 witnesses will be called to
give evidence: Kathleen Biles; Jodie Moore; Amelia Moore;
[AIQ]; [AIH]; Leonie Knight; Janet Loughman; Michael
Coutts-Trotter from the Department of Family and Community
Services; Ms Helen Allison; Mr Ian Knight, the New South
Wales Crown Solicitor; Mr Michael Cashion SC; Mr Patrick
Saidi, barrister; Mr Peter Yeomans of the NSW Police Force;
and Mr Andrew Cappie-Wood of the Department of Justice.
If it is convenient, your Honour and Commissioner,
I might tender the tender bundle and the witness statements
at this point.
THE CHAIR:
MR LLOYD:
Yes.
Does that conclude your opening?
It does.
THE CHAIR:
We might take a very short adjournment so that
the television camera can be quietly removed and then we'll
resume.
SHORT ADJOURNMENT
THE CHAIR:
MR LLOYD:
THE CHAIR:
Yes, Mr Lloyd.
I tender the two-volume tender bundle.
Very well, we will make that exhibit 19-1.
EXHIBIT #19-1 TWO-VOLUME TENDER BUNDLE
MR LLOYD:
At this stage, I might defer tendering the
witness bundle and perhaps deal with that, subject to
your Honour's convenience -THE CHAIR:
You will need to tender each of those
statements through the witness, unless the person is not
giving evidence. We would want them to affirm or swear to
the truth of what they are saying.
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There is an administrative difficulty, in
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that some of the documents which are annexed to some of the
statements may be necessary for the purpose of
cross-examining witnesses who are earlier, but if we can
deal with that perhaps after.
THE CHAIR:
We can deal with that in due course.
MR LLOYD:
Yes. As I understand it, Mr Menzies and
Ms England wish to make a short opening statement.
THE CHAIR:
Yes, very well.
ladies first?
MS ENGLAND:
Who is first?
Ms England,
Thank you, your Honour.
The department acknowledges at the outset the bravery
of the witnesses who will give evidence at the hearing. We
will listen with great care and with sympathy and with
respect. We commend the courage shown by those who will
tell their stories as part of this hearing and their
commitment to ensuring that past failings are neither
forgotten nor repeated.
We acknowledge also at the outset of this hearing that
there were children who suffered sexual assault and
physical abuse at Bethcar. This is a terrible thing which
should never have happened. The department is deeply sorry
that children suffered that way and acknowledges the impact
of those experiences on their lives.
Since the conclusion of the Bethcar litigation, the
department has taken a number of steps to minimise the
retraumatising effect of civil litigation on those who
bring such claims in future. The department wants to learn
from the past and to ensure that children and young people
in need of care and protection receive it.
THE CHAIR:
Thank you.
Mr Menzies?
MR MENZIES:
If the Commission pleases, the State of
New South Wales welcomes the Royal Commission's examination
of the appropriateness of civil litigation for victims of
child sexual abuse. New South Wales has always, and
continues to fully supported Royal Commission and welcomes
the opportunity to contribute to the Commission's
examination of this important issue.
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New South Wales acknowledges the potential for
litigation to be a traumatic experience for claimants who
have suffered sexual abuse as children. We expect this
hearing to show that the civil litigation system is not
always an effective way of dealing sensitively or
compassionately with survivors of sexual abuse.
The State regrets that the litigation process for the
plaintiffs in the Bethcar proceedings may have exacerbated
the pain associated with their experience as children and
the abuse that they suffered at Bethcar Children's Home.
The Royal Commission has reinforced the need for the
State to re-examine how it approaches claims relating to
child sexual abuse. We know that the State can do better
when dealing with civil claims to recognise the particular
vulnerability of child sexual assault victims and will take
into account what we hear during this hearing in
re-examining how we can better support victims of child
sexual abuse.
THE CHAIR:
Yes, thank you.
MR LLOYD:
Your Honour, I call Kathleen Biles. She will
come into the witness box with her support person,
Catherine Streeting.
<KATHLEEN MONICA BILES, affirmed:
[11.55am]
<EXAMINATION BY MR LLOYD:
THE CHAIR:
You will need to make sure you're speaking
into the microphone, Ms Biles, so that everyone who wants
to listen can hear what you have to say.
Yes, Mr Lloyd.
MR LLOYD:
Q.
What is your name?
A.
Kathleen Biles.
Q.
A.
You made a statement in October 2014?
I did.
Q.
A.
What you say in that statement is true, is it?
Yes.
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witness statements bundle.
THE CHAIR:
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THE CHAIR:
Yes, and you seek to tender it?
I do, your Honour.
We'll make it exhibit 19-2.
EXHIBIT #19-2 STATEMENT OF KATHLEEN MONICA BILES
DATED OCTOBER 2014
MR LLOYD:
Q.
aren't you?
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Yes.
Ms Biles, you're very nervous today,
Q.
You want your support person, Catherine Streeting, to
read most of that statement?
A.
Yes.
Q.
But you wish to read the bits from paragraph 69
onwards, towards the end; that's correct?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Before that happens, may I just ask you about
paragraph 68?
A.
Yes.
Q.
In that paragraph, you make reference to having to
sign a confidentiality agreement that says you are not
allowed to talk about the settlement money that you
received.
A.
Yes, that's right.
Q.
What you're talking about in that paragraph is the
confidentiality agreement that you were asked to sign at
the start of the mediation?
A.
Yes.
Q.
You're not there talking about any confidentiality
agreement that the State asked you to sign, are you?
A.
No.
Q.
Thank you.
I will now invite --
THE CHAIR:
Mr Lloyd, I'm afraid that neither the
Commissioner nor I have found the statement.
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MR LLOYD:
It might be that what your Honour and
Commissioner are looking at behind tab 1 is the redacted
version, which refers to [AIJ].
THE CHAIR:
That's what we've found. So what is the
position? Ms Biles' name is to be published?
MR LLOYD:
THE CHAIR:
that right?
MR LLOYD:
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statement.
THE CHAIR:
Published, yes.
But the statement is otherwise redacted; is
Yes.
Very well.
We understand.
Thank you.
Now, could I invite Ms Streeting to read the
Yes, thank you.
MS STREETING:
"This statement made by me accurately sets
out the evidence that I am prepared to give to the Royal
Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual
Abuse. The statement is true and correct to the best of my
knowledge and belief.
My full name is Kathleen Monica Biles. I was born on
20 August but I am not sure if I was born in 1971 or 1972
because there are different dates on my birth certificate
and the Department of Community Services files, but my
birth certificate says 1971.
I was born in Brewarrina District Hospital. I have
four siblings. I have two half-brothers, [REDACTED] and
[REDACTED], both of whom are older than me. My sister,
[AIL], and my brother, Douglas Bruce Biles, are my full
siblings. I have been told that [AIL] is one year older
than me and that Douglas is two years younger than me.
Douglas passed away in a motorcycle accident in May 2014.
I miss him every day.
I think I was about two years old when me, [AIL] and
Douglas were made wards of the State because DoCS and the
Children's Court believed that our parents could not care
for us. At that time we were living in Brewarrina, having
just moved from Wee Waa.
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I have read in my DoCS file that for a short while
after we were made wards of the State we were placed in
Bidura Children's Home, but I have no memory of this. I am
aware from records that my mother tried to get us back by
appealing the Children's Court decision, but later my
father made the decision that [AIL], Douglas and I be
placed at Bethcar Children's Home with Bert and Edith
Gordon. I have since found out that my dad spoke with Bert
Gordon about us living there. It is obvious to me that dad
trusted the Gordons. I think DoCS supported us being
placed at Bethcar as they felt that it would be better for
us to live in the same community as our parents.
I understand that on 10 December 1974 orders were made
dismissing my mother's appeal and committing [AIL], Douglas
and I to the care of Bert and Edith Gordon at Bethcar for
a period of five years.
I lived at Bethcar until I was about 15 years of age.
I used to call Bert and Edith "mum" and "dad". I saw them
as my foster parents. I remember the first day I was at
Bethcar. I had lost my little red shoe and I was sad
because my mum had bought them for me and I loved that
shoe. Me and my sister pulled out some of the garden
because we didn't want to be there. Edith flogged me with
a belt.
To the best of my knowledge and understanding, Bethcar
was a government-funded home for children who could not be
cared for by their parents. It was located about nine
miles along a dirt track, on the Walgett side of
Brewarrina. It comprised, at the time that I went out
there, a main living house. Living in that house was Bert
Gordon, Edith Gordon, their foster daughter [AIT], who
I think was a blood relative of Edith, and her husband,
Colin Gibson. Colin and [AIT] lived with us for some time
until they moved into an old schoolhouse.
That old schoolhouse burnt down. A new main house was
built for us, which replaced the old main house. Colin and
[AIT] then had a new house built next to that. At some
time before I was 12 years old, an alcohol and drug rehab
home was built about one mile up the road from Bethcar.
When I was about 12 years old, Bert and Edith took all of
us and moved Bethcar from Brewarrina to Orange, New South
Wales.
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I was sexually abused in that home by Bert Gordon.
The abuse started from when I was about five and kept
happening until I left at age 15.
I remember that when I was about five or six years
old, we all moved into a new house that was built. My
first memory in that house was the night that me, [AIL] and
another girl were playing doctors and nurses. They used me
as the patient because I had a headache. My headache got
worse, so I went into the lounge room where Bert and Edith
were. Edith was sitting at one end, crocheting, and Bert
was at the other. He sat with his legs up on the couch
closest to Edith. I went into the lounge room and said
that my head hurt. Before Edith could say anything, Bert
held up the blanket he was under and said words to the
effect, 'Come and lay down with daddy, daddy will make it
better.' I then got under the blanket with him. Bert
started rubbing my vagina, at first on top of my pyjamas,
then he put his hand inside my underwear. He kept rubbing
me. It started to hurt, so I jumped up from the couch.
I stood in front of Edith, who seemed completely
indifferent, and I started crying loudly. The following
conversation then took place. Edith: 'Oh, what's wrong
with you, you naughty little girl.' Bert was holding the
blanket up, 'Come on and lay down with daddy, go on. Go
away, big bitey, you come and lay down with daddy. Go away
big bitey, don't you hurt my girl.' I threw myself on the
floor.
Edith: 'Get up you naughty little girl and lay down
with your father.' Me: 'No, because daddy is being rude.'
When I said this to her, Edith flew into a rage. She
got up off the lounge and began beating me with a belt,
wherever she could hit me. She said words to the effect,
'Don't you lie about your father.' After she flogged me,
I was made to go to bed. Later on, I learned from
experience that Edith would respond like this every time we
told her that something like that had happened.
After this first incident of abuse, I didn't feel like
I could trust either Bert or Edith. I didn't feel like
I could tell Edith what was happening to me or the other
children. After Edith called me 'naughty' for being the
victim of a sexual assault, I am still dealing with
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feelings of shame around what happened to me.
I remember another time in the house when I was
little. Bert and Edith's bedroom had an ensuite, with
a door coming off the bathroom into the hall. Bert had me
standing on the toilet. He pulled my underwear down around
my ankles. He was playing with me and fingering me. He
lifted me on to the toilet because I was too small for him
to reach down to. Edith knocked on the bedroom door, and
Bert told me to walk out of the bathroom through the door
that connected with the hallway. I went outside and sat
around the corner where no-one could see me crying, because
I was worried that I would receive another beating for
'telling lies'. This reinforced the idea that I had no
place of privacy or safety in that house.
I remember having a bath with my sister [AIL].
I remember Bert coming into the bathroom and urinating in
front of us, then standing there for some time watching us
in the bath.
One morning, some time after this, because I was a bit
older, I was making Bert and Edith's bed. Bert came into
the bedroom and closed and locked the door. He walked over
to me and started to kiss me. He put his tongue in my
mouth. While he did this, he put my hand on his penis and
made me hold and fondle it. He was rubbing my vagina. He
pushed me down on the side of the bed and rubbed his penis
over my face, then told me to put it in my mouth. I don't
know what happened after that. I don't even remember the
rest of the day.
One night, probably when I was about nine years old,
[AIT] told me to go over to her house and get a nappy for
one of her children. When I got to the house, I turned the
light on and ran to the end room. I got the nappy and ran
back through the house. I was feeling vulnerable in that
house. I had just turned the light off when I felt a man
grab me. He started to kiss me, then he grabbed me on the
vagina. I pushed him away with all my might. Because the
light was turned off, I couldn't see who it was.
I remember another time, the last time before we left
Brewarrina, Bert took some of the girls down to the river
for a swim. Some of the girls were standing on Bert's
hands and he was throwing them over his shoulders. He
asked if I wanted a go and I refused, but he made me
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anyway. I had to stand in front of him and hold his
shoulders with both hands, then put my foot into his hands,
so he could flick me. I did this a number of times. The
last time, he grabbed me on the vagina. I got out of the
water and walked home. This experience made me feel
violated and very distressed, because I felt like nowhere
was safe, even if there were other people present. It felt
like, as time went by, that Bert just got bolder. It's
like he knew that even if we said anything, we would not be
believed, anyway, or that we would get flogged for lying.
On a daily basis, we had Bible reading each morning
before we went to school for half an hour. During these
sessions we were taunted by Bert. He told us we were
sinners and that we were going to hell. He said that we
were good for nothing and that our parents didn't want us
because we were liars. Bert made out like the world was
a frightening place and that he and Edith were our
saviours. Bert always said that we belonged in the gutter
and that our parents were evil alcoholics. He threatened
to send us back to our parents if we lied or if we didn't
do what we were told. I was terrified of my biological
parents because of what he said.
Bert used to tell me that if I didn't do what he
wanted, I would get flogged. I think he just knew that
I wouldn't go to the police. He always used to say words
to the effect of, 'Youse can go back to your parents. We
can leave youse in the gutter where you belong.' He used
to make up these things about each of our parents so that
we would think they were evil. When I first saw my parents
at school, when I was in third class, they were calling out
to me from the fence, but I was terrified of them because
of what Bert had said.
I remember that when I was in my first year of high
school (about 12 years old) we were going to move to
Orange. Some adults came to the high school in Brewarrina
to talk to us. I don't know where they were from or who
they were, but I think that they were from some government
agency. They asked me if I wanted to move to Orange with
the rest of the Bethcar family, and I said yes. Bert and
Edith told me to say yes about going to Orange and they
told us to say 'because I love my parents'.
We moved to Orange shortly after this.
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there, Bert and Edith used to go back to Brewarrina for the
holidays.
I remember one incident when I was about 13 years old.
I remember that it wasn't long after we moved to Orange and
that it was our first holiday back to Brewarrina. My
sister, [AIL], got her period for the first time. I told
Edith that [AIL] needed pads and she told us to tell Bert.
Colin and Bert went up the street to get a packet of Meds.
When they came back, me and [AIL] were sitting in the
gutter because she didn't want to be handed them in front
of everyone. They drove up beside us and Bert threw them
at [AIL] and they hit her in the crotch. He said words to
the effect of, 'Go stick them in your fork.'
Our Auntie [REDACTED], our father's sister, was living
next door to the home we were visiting when we were on
holiday in Brewarrina. [AIL] ran away and told our father
what had been happening. My father and his brother were
next door visiting and [AIL] told them what had been
happening. My father and uncle went over and wanted to
fight Colin and Bert, but they wouldn't come out of the
house. Edith smacked [AIL] across the face and said words
to the effect, 'How could you lie about your father like
that?' [AIL] left the house then and I kept begging her
not to go.
We went back to Orange with Bert and Edith, but [AIL]
didn't come with us. I waited for my father to come and
take Douglas and myself, but he never did. I remember
thinking: 'He now knows the types of goings on that
occurred in that household, so why doesn't he come and get
us? It's so true that he doesn't want us and he doesn't
love or care about us.' I felt isolated and unloved. This
reinforced what Bert and Edith had told us. I thought that
I wasn't good for anything. I also felt betrayed by [AIL].
[AIL] eventually came back to live with us, but I don't
remember how long she was away.
I remember another incident when we were in Orange;
I was about 13 years old. I remember that this was after
[AIL] moved back in with us. Bert told Edith he was taking
[AIL] and myself to Brewarrina to see our biological
mother. Bert said that she had been bashed again by her
de facto husband. We were apparently going with Bert to
help persuade her to come with us. [AIL] and I knew that
she wouldn't come with us, because she was an alcoholic and
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alcohol wasn't allowed in our house. We drove to
Brewarrina in Bert's silver Jackaroo. When we got on the
Brewarrina side of Nyngan, Bert told me to climb over and
sit on his lap. His excuse was that he wanted to teach me
how to drive. I was sitting in the front passenger seat
and [AIL] was in the back seat behind the driver. I didn't
want to sit on Bert's lap but he insisted. Bert told me to
grab the steering wheel and he put his hands on top of
mine. After a while he took one hand off the steering
wheel and started to fondle me. He pried one of my hands
off the steering wheel and put it on his penis. Then he
pulled my underwear to one side and rubbed his penis
against my vagina. Bert then put his penis inside my
vagina. I don't recall how long this went on for, but it
seemed like forever.
After he had raped me, Bert told [AIL] to climb over
on to the front passenger seat and he instructed me to get
in the back behind the driver's seat so I couldn't see what
he was doing to her. Bert then told [AIL] to sit on his
lap. I sat in the back crying silent tears. When we
arrived in Brewarrina, Bert took us to see our mother.
I remember her face being bruised and cut. He didn't offer
to help her but began to tell her words to the effect of,
'Look at you, you dirty low thing.' He didn't offer any
assistance to her. After we saw my mother, we pulled up
outside Colin and [AIT]'s house. I don't remember how long
we were in Brewarrina for or even the trip back to Orange.
I was too distraught.
One Saturday morning when I was about 13 years old,
Edith asked me to bring a cup of tea and two scones to Bert
in bed. I asked Edith if someone else could do it. She
said words to the effect of, 'No, I told you to do it, so
take them up to your father now.' I knocked on the bedroom
door and walked in. Bert tapped his bedside table,
instructing me to put the tea and scones there. I then
walked over to place them there, staying as far out of arms
reach as I could. I quickly placed them on the table, then
ran back to the door. Before I could close it, we had the
following exchange: Bert: 'Oi you.' Me: 'What the fuck
do you want?' Bert: 'What you gonna give me for $20?'
Me: 'I hate you, you make me sick.' I walked away.
The next morning at around 6am, Bert came into the
bedroom where we were sleeping to wake the girls up. I was
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arm under my head. I felt pressure on my arm beside me.
I woke up to see Bert standing with his knee against my
arm. He then pushed down on my head so I couldn't move my
other arm and he put his other hand on my mouth. He licked
my face and then started to kiss me and touch me. After he
finished, he put $20 under my pillow, smiled at me and
walked back to the door. He then yelled, 'Get up girls,
get up.'
On another Saturday morning I was standing in the
laundry doing the washing when Bert appeared at the top of
the stairs leading from the kitchen down to the laundry.
I'm sure it was a Saturday because that was the day I had
to do the washing. He said words to the effect of,
'Oi you, what else are you going to give me for $20?' One
of the boys walked up and stood behind Bert. I said to
Bert, 'What?', and he repeated it. I then said words to
the effect, 'Gidday, [REDACTED], what are you doing?' Bert
turned around and didn't know what to do or say.
I thought that I would have a witness because finally
someone had heard Bert, but I believe that [REDACTED] came
to an arrangement with Bert for [REDACTED] to keep his
mouth shut. [REDACTED] had a Holden Monaro and needed some
repairs, and I believe that Bert paid for the repairs.
Sometimes [REDACTED] would say to me words to the effect
of, 'You want to take him to court?', but he would never
give a statement. I was really disappointed with
[REDACTED].
Another time, when I was around 14 years old,
I remember Edith telling me to go through my clothes and to
give what was too small for me to the younger girls.
I gave some clothes to the younger girls, but later I had
an argument with them and took my clothes back. They told
Edith, and she backhanded me across the face. I ran to the
boys' bathroom and locked the door behind me. About 10
minutes later there was loud knocking at the bathroom door.
Me: 'Who is it?' Bert: 'Open the door.' Me: 'No.'
Bert: 'If you don't open the door, when you come out
you're going to get a flogging.'
I sat there for a while longer, then he banged on the
door again. I got as close to the door as I could, so that
when I opened it I could run past him. When I opened the
door, Bert grabbed me, then he pushed me back into the
bathroom and locked the door behind him. I remember being
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scared and frightened about what he was going to do. Bert
came towards me and started to kiss me on the mouth,
sticking his tongue in. He also groped me on the vagina
and breasts, rubbing both breasts. Bert then pushed me
down on to the toilet, unzipped his trousers and pulled out
his penis. He held his penis with one hand and placed his
other hand on top of my head, forcing my head towards his
penis. His penis was rubbing against my face and he tried
to put his penis in my mouth. By this stage I had had
enough. I pushed him hard and he fell into the bathtub.
Then I ran out of the bathroom and went into my bedroom.
Bert stayed away from me for the rest of the day.
On another occasion, when I was around 14 years old,
Bert came to my high school in Orange to pick me up. This
was very unusual as we normally caught the bus home. I was
waiting for the bus when Bert drove up to the school and
sent my foster brother out to get me to come in the car.
We had the following conversation. Foster brother: 'Come
in the car.' Me: 'What for?' Foster brother: 'Dad said
you had to come now and do the grocery shopping with us.'
Me: 'No, I'm going on the bus. Can't someone else do it?'
My foster brother then ran back over to the road where
Bert was waiting in the car. My foster brother then came
back and said words to the effect of, 'Dad said you have
to, or look out when you get home.' I went with my foster
brother and sat in front of Bert's old HT Holden. I had my
uniform on. I could feel Bert looking at me all the time.
Bert drove to the corner store, not far from home, and
parked around the corner from the shop. He gave my foster
brother money and said words to the effect of, 'Go and get
yourself something.' My foster brother got out of the car.
Bert started to rub my legs. I moved as close to the door
as I could, but he could still reach me. While he rubbed
my legs, he said, 'I'm going to drop your brother off at
home and you have to come and do the shopping with me.'
Me: 'No, no, I'm not.' Bert: 'You'll see.'
When my foster brother returned, Bert drove the car
home and parked out the front. He told my foster brother
to go inside. When my foster brother got out of the car,
I did too. Bert came inside and tried to make me go with
him. Edith told me to go with Bert, but I said words to
the effect of, 'I don't want to.' I remember thinking that
I would rather get a flogging than go with him. I didn't
go with him.
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When I was about 15 years old, I left school to stay
home and be a full-time carer for twins at Bethcar, who
both had kidney failure and were on dialysis. I had been
caring for the twins since I was about 13 years old. At
first, [AII] was their in-home nurse, but she got married
and left Bethcar when I was about 13 years old. After
[AII] left, I was forced by Bert and Edith to take over the
responsibility of caring for the twins.
This included changing their dialysis bags three to
four times a day, administering medication, filling out
their medical charts and taking them to hospital, and all
of their fortnightly doctors' appointments. I still had to
go to school and caring for the twins and going to school
as a 13-year-old was just too much. In the end it proved
too much for me, so I left school when I was about 15 years
old to become the twins' full-time carer. Not long after
I left school, I was granted a carer's allowance, after
which Bert proceeded to charge me rent.
One Sunday Bert said words to the effect of, 'Come on,
I'll take you down so you can check your account.' I said
words to the effect, 'No, I'll check it tomorrow.' Bert
insisted that we go, because he wanted his rent money from
me. Centrelink or something similar would pay about $700
into my account, and Bert would take $500 off me.
I went to the bank and got the rent money and some
money for myself. We went to the markets for a look, then
got in the car. Bert drove on to a road that I think was
called Opha Road and pulled the car off the road.
I remember that the car was an old HT Holden and it was
candy apple red in colour. He pulled his trousers down
just above his knees and told me to perform oral sex on
him. I said no and Bert said words to the effect of,
'We're not going anywhere until you do.' I just sat there
staring out the window, refusing to look at him. He then
said words to the effect, 'If you don't, I'll give you
a flogging.' I did as I was told, to avoid getting hit.
Something else I remember from when we were in Orange
was that I used to have severe cramps and heavy bleeding
from my period. I do not remember if Edith took me to the
doctor, but I do remember her giving me six little blue
oval-shaped pills. I don't know what they were, but soon
after, I was put on contraceptive pills. Ever since,
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I have had problems with my period. I still suffer from
severe cramps and heavy bleeding. I believe this is
because of the years of sexual abuse. It is so bad that
last year my doctor recommended that I have a hysterectomy.
One day when I was about 13 or 14 years old, Bert said
to me words to the effect of, 'You will never be good for
anything. You are evil and you are going to hell.' I was
sitting out the front crying and [AII], my foster sister,
came over to comfort me. I told her words to the effect
of, 'I've had enough. I want to leave the home.' She took
me to the Social Security office in Orange and we spoke to
a lady called Marilyn. We asked for some help with money
or a bond so I could get an apartment. Marilyn said that
she knew that there were things going on at that house that
shouldn't be going on. I looked over at [AII] and she said
words to the effect of, 'Tell her if you want to.' I told
her all about Bert and what he had been doing to my sister
and me. Marilyn said that she needed one of the others to
come forward as well. The others were too scared, so
nothing was ever done about it.
I didn't end up leaving the house at that time because
I couldn't get any financial help. I thought Social
Security handed out money to people who needed it. I was
hoping that if I told someone like Marilyn, then I wouldn't
have to go back to Bert and Edith and that they would let
me go live somewhere else.
Not long after that, most of the family went to
Brewarrina for the holidays. I had to stay in Orange to
look after the twins. [AIL] and [AIS], my foster sister,
also stayed behind. [REDACTED] arrived at the house. She
was married to [REDACTED], who is Bert's nephew.
[REDACTED] is also my cousin. I told [REDACTED] that
I wanted to leave the house. She said that I could stay at
her house, and [AIS] came with me. The next day,
[REDACTED] and her family also went away for the holidays.
Later that day, Bert and some of the other children came to
[REDACTED]'s house to try to make us return to the home.
We were so scared that we lay on the floor under the window
where they couldn't see us. They walked around the
apartment and banged on the door for about 20 minutes.
I don't know what Bert and Edith said to them, but when
they returned from their holidays, they kicked us out.
One day in around about 2000, my father's girlfriend
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told me that a police officer from Nyngan had called
looking to speak to me. When she mentioned Nyngan, I knew
it had to do with Bethcar. A few days later, Detective
Peter Freer turned up at Wee Waa. Some of the other girls
in foster care reported the abuse to the police, which is
why he contacted me. I went to the police station with my
father's girlfriend to make a statement at the police
station in Wee Waa. I gave two statements to Peter Freer one about the abuse that I suffered from Bert Gordon and
one about the abuse that I witnessed against the other
girls by Colin Gibson and Bert Gordon. I believe that my
sister, [AIL], didn't make a statement about what Bert did
to me.
I also gave evidence orally in court as a witness for
the other girls in the trial in Dubbo in October 2005
against Colin Gibson for child sexual abuse. I was
cross-examined and asked questions about the girls.
I was told that because Bert was so old and ill, no
criminal charges were laid against him, and so my
complaints against Bert never went to court. Bert died in
2005.
After Bert died, Edith rang me. Edith: 'You're too
far away to come down for the funeral.' Me: 'I'm not
coming down, anyway.' Edith: 'Ring me back after the
funeral. I want to talk about something. Don't worry, the
Lord sees everything and he knows everything.'
I didn't call Edith back. A few years later, when
I was living in Bourke, I ended up in a relationship with
[REDACTED]. His mother is Edith's niece. I spoke to him
about the abuse, and he said, 'Mum used to say that she was
sure something was going on.'
I believe that Edith definitely knew what was going
on, as I told her many times about Bert. I believe that
a lot of people in the town knew what was going on, but
they didn't do anything.
At Bethcar, we had an in-ground swimming pool. At
summertime at Brewarrina, the temperature could get up into
the mid-40s, but each time we got into the pool to take
a swim, there was always someone fondling us. When we got
dressed, we took a bath or a shower, there was always
someone watching us.
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We had no privacy at all. We were robbed of our
dignity at every point. The only time we got away from all
that was when we were at school. I thought of school as an
escape, not a place to learn. My education is very
limited. Since leaving school, the only jobs I have had
were as a housemaid or seasonal work, such as cotton
chipping or zucchini picking.
At Bethcar, we were pretty isolated from the outside
world. We were 9 miles out of Brewarrina. We were never
allowed to have friends stay over and never allowed to stay
at our friends' houses.
At Bethcar, we were threatened and flogged all the
time. Edith used to flog us with branches from the pepper
tree, with jug cords and those straps they sharpen blades
on.
After I left the home, I was in a few violent
relationships. I have a 25-year-old son, a 23-year-old
daughter, a 21-year-old son, a 19-year-old son and an
18-year-old son. The oldest three were made State wards.
My self-esteem is very low. This is a continual,
daily struggle. I suffer with agoraphobia, although I have
not been officially diagnosed. Even the simplest of tasks
can be a major challenge for me, such as shopping or paying
bills. I think people view me the way I view myself and
the way I feel inside.
I feel very dirty. I am somewhat obsessive with
regard to personal hygiene and the cleanliness of my
household. When I go out in public, I feel as though
people know all about me and they feel disgusted or sick at
what they see. This is in spite of the fact that these
people are complete strangers.
I have no close friends because I find it very hard to
trust anyone. I have no faith in Christianity whatsoever,
because Bert, Edith and Colin were supposed to be
Christians.
Until recently, I was seeing a counsellor, but I find
speaking to her very hard. Ever since my brother, Doug,
passed away, things have been exceptionally difficult for
me.
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I didn't realise that I could apply for victims
compensation for the sexual abuse that I suffered at
Bethcar. I spoke to Lee Wellman at the Witness Assistance
Scheme in Dubbo when my case didn't proceed against Bert.
She put me in contact with the Bourke/Brewarrina Family
Violence Prevention Legal Service, which was part of
Women's Legal Services NSW. In 2006 I made a claim for
victims compensation. In 2008 the Victims Compensation
Tribunal made a decision on my application and I was
awarded $40,000 in victims compensation for a category 3
sexual assault claim.
I thought that the victims compensation process was
easy - there was nothing extra that I had to do to make the
claim, because they just went off the police statements
that I had made, which they got from Detective Freer. The
solicitors handled the claim for me on the papers. The
process was a walk in the park compared to everything else.
I find it difficult to understand legal action. My
solicitors were very helpful in explaining to me what was
happening during the litigation, but sometimes I found it
all overwhelming and I could not fully understand what was
going on and why. In particular, I found it difficult to
understand why there were so many long delays in my matter.
I did not fully understand why the defendant said that
I was late with my claim.
The litigation was so difficult for me. I have this
feeling that I don't want to burden other people with my
story of abuse.
When I was being questioned in court by the other
side's lawyers, it made me angry and emotional. I felt
like they were looking at me like I was a liar. It felt
like I was back to being a little child, being called
a liar when I told Edith or anyone else about the sexual
abuse that was happening to me.
The only good thing about the civil litigation was my
legal representation, because they supported me and I knew
that they were there for me. None of my family or the
other victims were at the hearing. It was my lawyers who
got me through it all.
I know that a big issue in the court case was a time
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limitation. My barristers and solicitors talked me through
everything, explaining it to me in a way that I would
understand. I felt under a lot of pressure, like if
I didn't pass the time limitation, it would have destroyed
me. It would have reinforced years of being told that I am
a liar. It would have tipped me right over the edge.
The civil litigation was an ongoing battle for years.
It felt like the other side wanted to keep the fight going,
thinking that we were going to give up eventually and walk
away. At times I did just feel like doing that. It felt
like the other side wanted to drag out our hurt. It took
so much energy to keep fighting. At times it felt like we
weren't getting anywhere. We just wanted to end it.
I was so scared in Sydney when I went to do the time
limitation. It was just me and none of my other foster
sisters or brother. But my barristers and solicitors made
me feel so much at ease. Knowing that they were there and
that they believed in me helped me through it. Me and the
other victims had come across people for years and years
who don't believe us about the abuse. They thought, and
some probably still think, that we are liars and that we
did this for money. We did not do this for the money. We
did it for justice and to have a voice.
The litigation didn't give me any sense of 'getting it
off my chest' or closure. The litigation made me feel
smaller than I was. The shame of it and having to tell
strangers about what happened to me in court and then being
questioned about it - it felt like they were judging me,
and that was hard. I walk with a slouch, as I was ashamed
for years. I have a head twitch, which is getting worse.
My slouch and twitch get really bad when I'm angry or
nervous, like I was in court.
I think that there are some things that could have
made the court case an easier process for us. I remember
that when I went to court for the time limitation, the
other side didn't have their stuff ready. I remember that
we moved between two or three different courts and I was
thinking that they had had all these years to prepare and
they still weren't ready. I also found sitting in the
witness box and the other side's lawyer asking me the same
question several times really hard. I didn't see the point
to it.
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One of the things that really got to me was that they
brought up my boyfriends and past violent relationships.
It felt like they were trying to belittle me and I couldn't
see the point of any of that questioning. I really think
that if you could make some changes to the court process to
make it less daunting for victims, more people would come
forward. Court is really intimidating. You find it hard
to tell your family and friends about the sexual abuse, let
alone complete strangers. It's just too hard a process to
get justice.
The other issue that I had with the court case was
actually when it ended. I remember thinking everything is
finished now and what do we do from here? I was lost.
I think it would have been good to be given some
counselling for a few months (maybe 12 months) after the
court case. This might have helped for us to transition
after fighting for so long every day. Even though the case
is finished, the memories are still there and the
medication is still there.
When I saw my DoCS file and saw that my mum tried to
appeal and get us back, I have tried to establish
a relationship with her. I never knew that. My father
gave his rights to us away when he gave us away. I know
that he knew about what was happening to us at Bethcar, but
he still just left us there. He didn't care. I hate him
so much. He is dying of cancer, but I will not shed a tear
for that man.
After six years of the court case, I was told by my
lawyers that the State wanted to have a mediation. I don't
know exactly why they changed their mind, but I think that
because I won the time limitation, they got scared that
they were going to lose, especially after they had tried to
drag it out for years.
The mediation was in December 2013. This was attended
by our barrister and solicitors, most of the victims
(13 girls, excluding [AII]) and Douglas, plus the lawyers
for New South Wales. An apology was delivered in person at
the mediation by a lady from the department. To me, the
apology was cold - the way in which it was read out in her
voice. It was not heartfelt or meaningful. I know that it
wasn't her or the State personally who abused us, but they
were responsible for us and they were representing the
State, and I don't think that she did a good job.
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The solicitors and barristers would then go away into
a separate room to talk about offers. We, the victims,
would stay in another room, and then our barrister, John,
would come in and see us and tell us the offer made and we
would talk about what we would accept.
I think it was our lawyers from Women's
who suggested that all of the plaintiffs get
amount of money to settle. All of us agreed
was just easier. It was a long battle and I
wait for it to finish.
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the same
with that - it
just couldn't
I had to sign a confidentiality agreement that says
I am not allowed to talk about the settlement money that
I received. I know that I can talk about it to the Royal
Commission, though. I received about $107,000. The money
hasn't really helped me to deal with the sexual abuse that
I suffered. Having said that, the court case was still
worth it, because I felt like I got some justice. I even
think about where I am now, talking with the Royal
Commission about what happened to me. We were little kids
with parents who didn't want us, living at Bethcar in
a home with no love. Most of the kids from there are on
drugs and alcohol. But we won the court case and now we
are here talking about it to the Royal Commission,
something that I never thought I could do, because
I thought I was beneath you and uneducated."
MS BILES:
"My brother, Douglas, died in May this year in
a tragic accident. His death affected me a lot, in ways
that you could not imagine. Doug came with me and [AIL] to
Bethcar. He was approximately 21 months old at the time.
Doug was sexually abused at Bethcar and was a plaintiff in
the civil litigation. He fought the fight with us
14 girls, the only man who stood with us. I know that Doug
would have wanted to tell his story to the Royal
Commission, but because he can't, I want to tell some of it
for him.
When me, [AIL] and Doug arrived at Bethcar, there was
an older group of foster kids already there. I think that
an earlier group of foster kids had arrived at Bethcar with
the Gordons some years earlier. Doug told me that he was
sexually abused by one of these older foster boys.
I didn't know about that at the time, until my brother told
me years later, in about 2001 or 2002 when I was living in
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Wee Waa.
The abuse really affected Doug as a man and as
a father. He was very ashamed of what happened to him.
Doug was almost an alcoholic, and I know that he did that
to drown out the pain. Doug's first partner, and the
mother of his kids, couldn't put up with him because he
drank too much. Their relationship ended six years ago.
His excessive drinking led to the courts preventing him
from having access to any of his three boys. That really
affected him in life and as a father.
I remember that when Doug and his former partner were
trying to get pregnant, and couldn't, Doug thought it was
because of how bad the sexual abuse to him had been. He
used to cry about it, that he couldn't have a family. But
he did have three children.
When my brother had his children for the school
holidays, he would watch them like a hawk. Doug always
blamed himself for the sexual abuse that happened to me and
[AIL]. He said that, being our brother, he should have
protected us. But I told him that he was younger and
a baby and that he couldn't have helped us.
For him to have lived a life like that, blaming
himself for what happened to us, it wasn't fair; it was
terrible. It was so bad for Doug that, on one occasion, he
doused himself in fuel and tried to set himself alight. He
ended up in a mental hospital, but I got him released into
my care because I thought it was more important for him to
be with people who cared for him and who understood what
had happened to him.
Like all of us, Doug was physically abused by Edie and
Bert. I remember one day I saw Edie ironing. She was
rousing on Douglas and she threw the hot iron at him. It
hit him on the back. Another time she went to hit him with
a jug cord, got him across the face and it left a big
imprint on his face. These are just some examples that
I remember.
The civil litigation was very hard for Doug. He was
really worried about people knowing about the sexual abuse,
because he felt embarrassed about it. He was the only boy
in the litigation. I kept telling him how proud I was of
him for doing this. I would tell him that I was glad that
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he was here with us. None of the other boys came forward
for the court case. Doug's partner knew about the abuse
and the court case. I think Doug's eldest boy knew that
there was something going on with the court case, but
I don't think he knew what it was about. When we met up
with our barristers in December, Doug read out a speech to
all of us at the mediation. He was so brave. That was the
last time I saw Doug.
Doug was on medication - antidepressants and sleeping
pills - but none of that helped him. I have been told that
he was on ice before he passed away. That was after the
court case finished. It was a time that we were supposed
to move on with our lives, but Doug never got that chance.
He had an abusive childhood and a terrible adulthood and
then he was taken early from us. His only happy time was
with his children, his nieces and nephews and me. His life
was the result of the abuse from when he was little. The
sexual abuse destroyed his life. But he was still a great
father, uncle and brother. He loved his children, his
nieces and nephews and his sisters.
Doug was a great guy. I will also remember him for
his generosity of spirit and the love he showed to all of
us. If there was a man on the street who was cold, Doug
would take the shirt off his own back and give it to him.
His dying was such a waste of a good man's life. Doug is
at peace now, but it took dying for him to get that peace.
It's sad that he couldn't get that while he was still here.
This is because the court process took so long and the
State fought us at every turn. I struggle with the State's
behaviour in the civil litigation and Doug's passing on
a daily basis."
MR LLOYD:
Thank you, Ms Biles.
Ms Biles, your Honour.
THE CHAIR:
Ms Biles?
Thank you.
That's the evidence from
Does anyone have any questions of
MS ENGLAND:
No, your Honour.
MR MENZIES:
No, your Honour.
THE CHAIR:
Thank you, Kathleen. Thank you for coming and
telling us your story. You are excused.
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MR LLOYD:
Your Honour, I call Jodie Moore. Her
statement, your Honour and Commissioner, is found at tab 2
of volume 1 of the witness bundle. Ms Moore is content for
her name to be published, and I suspect the same problem
will arise in terms of your Honour and Commissioner having
the redacted version. I am told that she will be here in
a minute or so. It's unlikely, having regard to the length
of her statement, that she would conclude reading it by
1pm.
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We'll see how we go.
the pseudonym [AIC]?
MR LLOYD:
Did she originally have
Yes, your Honour.
THE CHAIR:
The alternative, Mr Lloyd, would be for us to
take the luncheon adjournment now. What do you want us to
do?
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Subject to your Honour's and Commissioner's
convenience -THE CHAIR:
We will do whatever Ms Moore wants us to do.
MR LLOYD:
-- it might be suitable to Ms Moore, and it
certainly would be suitable in my submission, to take the
luncheon adjournment now and we could resume at 10 to 2.
THE CHAIR:
Yes, we will adjourn for an hour.
tell Ms Moore that we have taken that course.
MR LLOYD:
THE CHAIR:
lunch.
MR LLOYD:
Would you
Yes, your Honour.
We will resume and hear her evidence after
Yes.
Thank you, your Honour.
LUNCHEON ADJOURNMENT
MR LLOYD:
I call Jodie Moore, who is in the back of the
room. Ms Moore will come up with a counsellor,
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<JODIE BELINDA MOORE, sworn:
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<EXAMINATION BY MR LLOYD:
MR LLOYD:
Q.
Can you say your name, please, Ms Moore?
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Jodie Belinda Moore.
Q.
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You made a statement on 18 September 2014?
Yes.
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What you say in that statement is true?
Yes.
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Your Honour, I have identified that that
statement is behind tab 2 in volume 1 of the witness
bundle, and I tender it.
THE CHAIR:
That will be exhibit 19-3.
EXHIBIT #19-3 STATEMENT OF JODIE BELINDA MOORE
DATED 18/09/2014
MR LLOYD:
Q.
Ms Moore, you think you might need some
help with your statement?
A.
Yes.
Q.
A.
But you're going to try to read it yourself?
Yes.
Q.
I invite you to do that.
A.
"This statement made by me accurately sets out the
evidence that I am prepared to give to the Royal Commission
into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. The
statement is true and correct to the best of my knowledge
and belief.
Where direct speech is referred to in this statement,
it is provided in words or words to the effect of those
which were used, to the best of my recollection.
My name is Jodie Belinda Moore. I was born in 1970.
I am now aged 45 and I have 6 children.
My father died when I was about 6 and a half years old
and my mother died at about the same time. I cannot recall
either of my parents or any experience in their company.
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I am aware from reading my Department of Community
Services ('DoCS') records that I was placed at Bethcar
Children's Home ('Bethcar') in 1976, when I was about
6 years old. I was placed at Bethcar at the same time as
my two sisters and my younger brother. I recall I left
that place when I was 15 and 9 months old.
While at Bethcar, I lived in the main house with Bert
and Edie Gordon.
I was told by Edie and Bert Gordon that I had to refer
to them as mum and dad and that I had no other family
except them.
While at Bethcar, I attended the Brewarrina Central
School and I left in the middle of year 9. I felt very
uncomfortable at school and I tried to avoid it as best
I could, which involved hiding under the schoolhouse and
anywhere else I could.
I remember being sexually abused by Bert Gordon and
Colin Gibson, who did work around Bethcar and was related
to the Gordons. I was also physically and emotionally
abused by Edie Gordon.
I recall that I suffered from bed wetting soon after
I started at Bethcar. This continued until I left there
just before my 16th birthday. I remember that this bed
wetting was because I was so scared of Colin Gibson coming
into my room and sexually abusing me.
I also remember deliberately breaking my arm when
I was about 8 years old so that I could get a break from
the sexual abuse.
I estimate that I was sexually assaulted about
50 times per year by Colin Gibson. Following most of these
assaults, I bled from my vagina and I was in a lot of pain.
Sometimes I would be assaulted a number of times per week
and sometimes it would be full sexual intercourse and
sometimes he would put his finger into my vagina.
When I got to high school and was told about sex
education, I realised what had happened to me with
Colin Gibson was sexual assault. At that point, I tried to
run away from Bethcar. I was in about year 6 when I ran
away to Tom Winters' place. Tom used to work at the Land
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Council. I didn't tell Tom what was happening. However,
when I ran away or did not complete the chores that were
allocated to me, I was beaten by Edie Gordon.
I particularly recall being beaten by a large red strap
that was used to sharpen razors and being hit with pepper
tree branches. As a result of these beatings, I had
bruising and scarring on my legs and other parts of my
body.
Bert Gordon often said words to the effect that I was
a 'low down mongrel'. Bert Gordon and Edie Gordon often
said words to the effect that 'I was unloved and I had no
family'.
I remember telling Edie Gordon about one of Bert's
assaults. When Edie Gordon told Bert Gordon, he tipped
a pot of boiling water from the stove all over her head.
She was badly scalded and was taken out of town for a few
months. I soon learned not to tell the adults about my
problems, as I was causing more problems.
When I was in about year 6 at school, I saw
Colin Gibson assault two other children living at Bethcar,
[REDACTED] and [AIE], who was only a baby at the time.
I think one of the girls told someone what happened because
[REDACTED] took [REDACTED] to the police station.
Anne Dimech and Terry Madden from Welfare took me and a few
of the other children to the police station. At the police
station, the police took verbal statements from us.
Afterwards, Anne and Terry took us back to Bethcar. Bert
and Edie flogged us with a pepper tree branch.
I also recall when I was 16 or 17 reporting the events
to the police, but it took about 20 years for Colin Gibson
to be charged. I went to the police most recently about
Colin because I just couldn't handle it anymore and
everything that had happened to me at Bethcar was like
a jigsaw puzzle in my mind. DoCS had taken my kids, and
I had also started drinking, so it was a difficult period
for me.
I believe that the system let me down because although
there were people that came to visit us from the government
at Bethcar, they would interview us when the Gordons were
present. As a result, we could not tell them what we felt
or what was going on or we would have been abused by the
Gordons.
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Bert Gordon was awarded Father of the Year while we
were at Bethcar and he was regarded as a great Christian.
I escaped from Bethcar at about 16 when the Gordons
were taking a trip to the Northern Territory for a month.
I slept down at the river in Brewarrina and at that time
I started drinking alcohol.
Five or six months later, I found out I had another
sister. I lived with my sister for 12 months and, after
that time, she collapsed and died. I witnessed her death
and was deeply troubled by that experience.
I had to provide for myself and I had no-one to look
after me. After that time, I was involved in two violent
relationships with partners, and then I took to drinking
alcohol and smoking cannabis. I have attended many
detoxification centres, but I cannot remember much about
them. I used to be a binge drinker, but now I have my own
home and my own furniture and I don't need to do that
anymore.
I have experienced repeated flashbacks to what went on
at Bethcar, both physically and sexually. I cannot prevent
these things coming into my mind. No matter what I am
doing, they haunt me. In particular, over the years, if
I have engaged in any intercourse, I have had flashbacks to
being assaulted by Colin Gibson and I have no enjoyment of
sexual intercourse.
I tried to look after my children, but I feel that
I have failed miserably because of my own incapacity.
I have not worked for many years, though I did some
work in cleaning and working at Payless many years ago.
Since I left Bethcar, I have survived on drugs,
alcohol and cigarettes. I have had violent relationships
and poor communications with my children, even though
I feel that DoCS did a worse job with them than I would
have done myself.
In 2010 I had a
12-year-old daughter
She was assaulted by
in Brewarrina during
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I believe he was sentenced to gaol for 12 years.
I feel that my whole life has been relived through my
daughter and I feel that DoCS let me down and now they have
let my daughter down.
I find I can no longer trust anyone in authority and
I get very violent if issues come my way and I cannot
control my temper. I fear adults or authority, and even
today I do not trust people in authority.
I suffer many anxiety attacks. I suffer from
a seizure disorder and I have had multiple seizures in my
life.
My relationships have been absolutely disastrous and
I have lived in abusive relationships.
In October 2009 I was looking after one of my
grandchildren, and my friend came over and we started
drinking at about 9am. At around that time, my partner
attempted to assault me in my fractured rib area. My
partner had been physically violent to me many times,
including knocking out my teeth, fracturing my rib and
giving me many bruises. I had been chopping a banana for
my grandchild and, as he approached me to punch me again,
he alleges that I stabbed him.
I have no recollection of stabbing my partner.
found guilty and spent four months in gaol.
I was
I have no hobbies or interest in my life, and at most
stages of my adult life, I could not care whether I lived
or died. I have also spent a large part of my life living
from day to day and drinking alcohol to subdue my anxiety
about what happened to me at Bethcar.
At the trial of Colin Gibson, I gave a statement to
the police. When I gave my statement to the police about
Colin Gibson, I was asked to return to Bethcar to identify
where things occurred. When I returned there, I began to
shake and lost control of my body. I felt my head spinning
and I broke out in a sweat.
When I gave evidence in the court trial, I was
verbally abused by the Gordons and the Gibsons. I was also
verbally abused by people in the community for speaking out
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against the Gordons, who were held in high regard in the
community. The experience of giving evidence in court was
very traumatic and I had a seizure in the witness box after
I glimpsed Colin Gibson's face in the courtroom as well as
the faces of his wife and other family members.
When Colin Gibson was sentenced to gaol, he was found
guilty of three offences with respect to me. These were
mainly sexual intercourse without my consent.
I was awarded victims compensation of $50,000 on
31 July 2007. I spent this money on a white Commodore,
some furniture and my children. I did not have a car
licence, but I drove the car and therefore was charged with
other offences. I then gave the car to my daughter.
I have been involved in various appeals related to my
award of victims compensation. In 2011 the Supreme Court
of New South Wales Court of Appeal restored the decision of
the Victims Compensation Tribunal to award me $50,000.
When I gave evidence at Colin Gibson's trial,
I understood this was because he had done bad things to us
and he should be sent to gaol. I did not at that point
know that I might have a claim for compensation against the
State for not making sure we were looked after properly.
In about 2008 my lawyers, Women's Legal Services, told
me I might have a claim against the State for failing to
protect me and prevent Colin Gibson and the Gordons from
abusing me. Prior to that date, I had no idea of any
rights or any time limits affecting any claim I might have
had.
It was not until I spoke with my solicitors in 2008
that I really appreciated that there was some connection
between my mental state and what happened at Bethcar. Up
to that point, I tried to put it all to the back of my mind
and just got through life by drinking alcohol.
Even since my solicitors told me about the claim,
I was unsure of what was going on and what was happening in
the courts. The case settled in 2013 and I received
a settlement award. I also received a verbal apology from
DoCS at the mediation and then a written version of the
apology.
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I found it extremely traumatic to have to go through
all of these issues again with both the doctors and my
lawyers. Following each of the assessments, I increased my
alcohol consumption and I feel like I just wanted to stay
in bed and disappear from the world forever. I found that
each time I was asked to describe the events, I got very
agitated and it brought back all of the memories that
I have tried to suppress.
I found it very difficult to travel to Sydney and to
attend the meetings in the city.
I did not fully understand what was going on in
relation to Bethcar and all that happened to me there.
I do, however, understand that Colin Gibson, Bert and Edie
Gordon treated me very badly when I was there, and because
I was so young I did not have any choice but to stay in
that place and be abused on a regular basis.
I went through the litigation as it was about getting
some justice for what had happened to me and getting
answers from DoCS. I felt that DoCS dragged the case out,
although they knew what had gone on at Bethcar. I also
felt that the apology they gave us at the end was made
a little too late. If they knew what had happened, why did
it take them so long to make an apology to us?
Although I received a settlement award, that wasn't
really what I went into the process for. I just wanted to
forget what had happened and put it behind me.
Women's Legal Services did everything that they could
for us. They couldn't have done anything more. They kept
communicating with us through the whole process and always
talked to us, and not at us. I trusted the women at
Women's Legal Services and they always kept in contact."
MR LLOYD:
THE CHAIR:
Ms Moore?
Thank you.
That is the evidence.
Does anyone else have any questions of
MR MENZIES:
No, thank you.
MS ENGLAND:
No, your Honour.
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story.
You are excused.
<THE WITNESS WITHDREW
MR LLOYD:
Your Honour, Commissioner, the next witness is
Amelia Moore. Her statement is to be found behind tab 3 in
volume 1 of the witness statements bundle.
Ms Moore does not feel up to coming into the witness
box and reading her statement. Subject to your Honour's
views, I propose the following course, which I have raised
with all those at the Bar table and with which they agree,
that Ms Deane, my instructing solicitor, reads Ms Moore's
statement. If that course is acceptable, what I should
first do is tender it.
THE CHAIR:
We'll make the statement exhibit 19-4.
EXHIBIT #19-4 STATEMENT OF AMELIA FLORENCE MOORE
DATED 18/09/2014
THE CHAIR:
MR LLOYD:
It can be read.
I invite Ms Deane to read that statement.
MS DEANE:
This statement made by me accurately sets
out the evidence that I am prepared to give
to the Royal Commission into Institutional
Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. The
statement is true and correct to the best
of my knowledge and belief.
My name is Amelia Florence Moore.
I was born on 25 November 1968.
second of four children.
I was the
I remember feeling very loved and cared for
by my parents when I was a child.
I remember that I spent a lot of time with
my mother and I was very happy with her.
My mother died when I was age 6.
died when I was age 11.
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Shortly after my mother died, my two
sisters and I were taken to Bethcar
Children's Home in Brewarrina in New South
Wales for safekeeping. I remember one day
after school, I saw the Bethcar bus parked
across the road from Brewarrina School. My
father went over and spoke to the bus
driver and asked if we could live at
Bethcar. My father could not look after
us, because he was an alcoholic. My
youngest brother was already living at
Bethcar when we arrived. I was aged
between 5 and 8 years old.
As far as I can remember, I remained at
Bethcar until I was about 16.
Bethcar was run by Bert Gordon and Edith
Gordon. When Bert and Edie were absent,
Bethcar was run by their daughter, [AIT],
and her husband, Colin Gibson. There were
two houses at Bethcar - a big house where
Bert and Edie lived with most of the
children, and a smaller house where Colin
and [AIT] lived.
The big house was always full of people.
It was a fibro house with a tin roof.
I cannot remember who I shared a room with
because they were always chopping and
changing our rooms. There was a big
verandah with a heap of beds down one wall.
They were old hospital beds, made of iron.
This was where the younger girls would
sleep. There were about four or five
bedrooms. Edie's daughter had a room to
herself in the middle of the house. In one
room, there was [AIE], [AIH] and [AIG]. In
another room, there was [AIF], [AIL] and
Kate Biles and [AIS]. My sisters and
I shared a room for a while.
We attended school at Brewarrina Central.
Bert or Colin would drive us to school and
pick us up of an afternoon. We did chores
before and after school, such as washing up
and making sandwiches.
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Colin would mainly work at the pump, which
was down at the river. You could not see
the pump shed from the back of the house
and we used to run down there to go
yabbying.
I am aware of people from my neighbourhood
coming to visit Bethcar and I never
remember anybody from the government coming
to check on us or to see if we were okay,
and we were never told that we could talk
to anybody about the violence and the
attacks on us by the people who ran
Bethcar.
One day, [AIT] told me to get some cotton
buds from her house. I was walking down
the hallway in [AIT]'s house and I heard
footsteps behind me. I turned around and
saw Colin walking up towards me. He put
his hands on my shoulders and tried to push
me onto the floor and kiss me on my neck.
I said words to the following effect: "No,
no, don't do it."
Then [AIT] arrived. Colin let go of me and
I ran out. Before I got to the big house,
I saw Colin walking towards the river, and
[AIT] was having words with him. I could
hear her yelling at him. I went into the
big house and told some of the girls that
Colin had tried to get me. I don't
remember who I told, but we all ran up to
the sliding doors and watched Colin and
[AIT] walking down the river. I don't
remember how old I was when this happened
or how long it was after I first arrived at
Bethcar.
I remember another time when Colin touched
me on the breast. I told one of my friends
at school what had happened. I don't
remember how old I was when this happened,
but I can remember that it must have got
around at school. I spoke to Kevin
Williams and his wife, who were Aboriginal
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workers in the Aboriginal Legal Service at
the school. I also spoke to my teacher in
year 3 or 4, Ms [REDACTED]. I think that
Terry Madden was with DoCS or Welfare at
the time, because I can remember talking to
him about the abuse. Terry Madden took
four of the girls from Bethcar to the
police station. I don't remember what
happened, but I can remember being there.
Bert was called and was present at the
meeting, and I recall that he drove us
home. I don't recall the police ever
taking any action after that.
I did not have a lot of trust in the police
growing up, as they were known to be
physically abusive and violent towards
Aboriginal people in the community. After
this experience, I never told anyone about
anything that happened at Bethcar, not even
my sisters. I was too scared.
During my time at Bethcar, I remember being
physically and psychologically abused by
both Bert and Edie. Edie would often beat
me with a jug cord. She also used tree
branches, a strap, or would punch with her
fists and would hit until she was too tired
to continue. Bert regularly told me that
I was not worth much and that I would never
come to anything. I was also verbally
abused by Colin on a daily basis.
I regularly witnessed my younger sister and
brother being flogged, too, by Bert and
Edie. I could never understand why they
were beaten in such a savage way.
We were never given any proper supplies,
like toothbrushes or feminine hygiene
products, at Bethcar, and if I needed
those, I had to buy them if I had any money
of my own.
Many times during my stay at Bethcar,
I decided to run away. However, each time
I tried to do this, I hesitated because
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I did not feel I could care for myself in
the outside world. Any time I spoke up for
myself or tried to do anything different at
Bethcar, I got a flogging. Throughout my
adult life, I have regarded being flogged
as a normal part of life and, if you speak
up for yourself, then that is the
punishment that you get.
I stayed at Bethcar until about 1984.
I think I was in year 10. Then I went and
lived in Maitland with Diane and
Russell Boney, who I had known previously
through school. Welfare contacted them and
asked them to take me. I considered them
to be a safe family. I attended school at
Maitland Girls High. However, I was only
there for a couple of months and I never
got to sit my year 10 certificate. Bert
and Edie and the kids had moved to Orange
by then and the girls used to ring me up
from Orange and I got homesick. My sister
Jodie was still with the Gordons, and
I wanted to be with family. I rang Bert up
and he got me a ticket and I came to Orange
to live with Bert and Edie again. I recall
that Colin and [AIT] stayed in Brewarrina.
A couple of months after I came over from
Maitland, my sister Jodie and I ran away
when we all went back to Brewarrina for
a trip. We hid and then went out to Dodge
Aboriginal Reserve. Bert ran after us and
told Jodie to get back. Bert would not let
Jodie go and she did not end up living with
me in Dodge. I lived there with my other
sister.
At about 18, I got married. My husband and
I had four children together. This
marriage lasted 10 years, but there was
significant domestic violence during this
marriage.
I was hospitalised several times as
a result of the injuries inflicted by my
husband. My husband also spent time in
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gaol for breach of apprehended violence
orders. My children often witnessed the
beatings that my husband gave to me.
At the end of the relationship, I went to
live in a women's refuge with my children.
My ex-husband came to terrorise us from
time to time.
From leaving Bethcar up to the birth of my
last child, I had been drinking alcohol on
a moderate basis.
When my last child was aged about six,
I started drinking alcohol excessively and
my older sister took custody of my children
for a while. In 2003 I had myself admitted
to an alcohol rehabilitation program in
Cowra for three months. I stopped drinking
after this time and got my children back.
During the years I was drinking alcohol
excessively, I could not give a care about
what happened in life. I was not aware of
anything happening on a daily basis because
I was often drunk and I was not a good
mother to my children.
When I gave up the grog seven years ago,
I started to write things down so I could
remember them. My memory is very bad and
I have to write things down; otherwise,
I will forget things.
In about 2001, I gave a statement to the
police when Colin Gibson was about to be
charged for having abused children in
Bethcar. I did not give evidence at his
trial.
I have received victims compensation a few
times over the years. I received $12,000
of victims compensation for domestic
violence resulting from my relationship
with [REDACTED].
In about August 2009, I saw Margaret
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Johnson, a psychologist, and she helped me
to understand that the reason why I put up
with the physical abuse from my husband was
because I had grown up with that background
in Bethcar. I had learned to accept that
a daily flogging was normal in childhood
and also normal in marriage.
The report of Ms Johnson was read to me by
my lawyers at Women's Legal Services, and
I agree with what she has written in that
report.
Up to the point of meeting with Ms Johnson,
I was very reluctant to recount the events
at Bethcar as I found it very traumatic.
I did attend the court for my sisters'
criminal cases against Colin Gibson, but
I did not give any evidence. I sat at the
back of the court and found it all very
traumatic as it reminded me of the events
at Bethcar.
I prefer not to mention anything about my
life at Bethcar, and when I was seen by
a Dr Patricia Jungfer on behalf of my
solicitors on 23 August 2010, I could not
continue this conference in one go. I had
to take a break and collect my thoughts,
then go back in. I found it all very
traumatic dealing with Bethcar. I prefer
not to deal with it, and my life is easier
if I do not have to think about it or
repeat the events to anybody. The whole
episode was extremely traumatic and I felt
absolutely powerless and dominated by those
people looking after me at Bethcar.
I try to avoid all kinds of reminders of my
previous childhood experiences at Bethcar.
Any time I have ever talked about the
incidents, it causes me psychiatric
symptoms. I have felt terrible emotional
trauma about what went on at Bethcar. This
varies from shame to guilt to being treated
as a liar and somebody who cannot be
believed.
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I had no idea how severe my condition was
or that it was in any way related to the
events at Bethcar until my lawyers told me
in about 2008 that I might have a claim
against the government for the way I was
treated at Bethcar.
I went along with what my lawyers told me,
but sometimes I didn't understand all that
was going on.
I lived in Orange for about 20 years.
I now live in Brewarrina with my foster
daughter, who is 11 years old.
Throughout my adult years, I have had four
children and I fostered a child about
seven years ago and she lives with me at
the moment.
The civil litigation was a very emotional
experience for me. Going through it made
me have to deal with all my memories of
Bethcar all over again. I felt that I had
to repeat those experiences all over again
in order to move forward. I just wanted to
get to the next stage, to move on with my
life. The litigation was strung out over
many years, which made it harder to get
through.
I pulled out of the litigation a few times
and eventually came back. It was great
working with Women's Legal Services. They
were extremely supportive and told me what
was happening every step of the way, so
I had no fear about the process. They also
looked after us in terms of getting us to
Sydney for the mediation and taking care of
our accommodation, meals and letting us
know the times things were happening. If
I had any questions about the process,
I would ask them and they would always
answer my questions. It was also good
going through the process as a group with
the other women from Bethcar, as we were
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able to support each other.
I didn't really have any real expectations
of the outcome of the litigation. One of
the reasons I went through it was that
I thought it would help me to heal.
I received a sum of money from the
litigation. However, money was not what it
was about for me. FACS made an apology to
us at the mediation, but that did not help.
They acknowledged that the abuse happened,
but they did not acknowledge that we were
there. It didn't seem like a sincere
apology to me, especially as they denied
that they had any responsibility for what
had happened through the whole process and
were haggling over money.
I can't say that I'm glad that I went
through the process, and I still feel hurt
and anger. I still see people around who
knew about the abuse and who didn't do
anything at the time. Also, it took so
long for the case to get to court, and by
that time Bert had already died and was
never charged. I did not feel that there
was any justice for us, as the people who
were responsible for what happened were not
held accountable.
MS DEANE:
May it please the Commission.
THE CHAIR:
Mr Lloyd, could you ensure that the thanks of
myself and the Commissioner are conveyed to Ms Moore for
her statement.
MR LLOYD:
That will be done, your Honour.
The next witness is [AIH] and is subject to the
pseudonym direction that your Honour made earlier today.
Her statement is found at tab 4 in volume 1 of the witness
statements bundle. The position with respect to [AIH] is
the same as with respect to Ms Amelia Moore, and on that
basis I tender the statement of [AIH].
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EXHIBIT #19-5 STATEMENT OF [AIH] DATED 18/09/2014
MR LLOYD:
I invite Ms Deane to read that statement.
MS DEANE:
This statement made by me accurately sets
out the evidence that I am prepared to give
to the Royal Commission into Institutional
Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. The
statement is true and correct to the best
of my knowledge and belief.
My full name is [AIH].
I was born in 1967 and I am 46 years of
age. I have lived in Brewarrina all of my
life. I have three brothers. My dad had
another family and he had four children
with his other partners.
I went to Brewarrina Central School in
Brewarrina. I liked school. I wanted to
be a day carer when I grew up. I like
looking after children.
When I was about 11 years old, my mother
started to drink heavily. When she was
drunk, she would sometimes give me
a flogging. Usually it would be if I did
something wrong, and she would hit me.
I did not see my dad very much because he
would travel around working, but when he
did return home, I remember that my mum and
dad would fight a lot, so I would go to my
auntie's house.
When I was about 11 years old, I was taken
by the Welfare Department. They came and
removed me from school. I remember that
Terry Madden (Terry) was the Welfare man.
I liked him and I felt that I would be safe
when he took me. I did not want to go with
Welfare, but I remember Terry saying that
I had to go with him because I was running
away all the time. This was usually when
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I was going to my auntie's place, which was
still in Brewarrina.
I was taken directly to Bethcar Children's
Home in Brewarrina, New South Wales. I was
11 years old. I felt that I would be safe
at Bethcar.
Bethcar was run by Bert Gordon and Edith
Gordon. They were my foster parents.
Bert's nickname was "Grub". Bethcar was
comprised of two residential houses. Bert
and Edie lived in the big house with all of
the children. Colin Gibson and [AIT] lived
in the second, smaller house. [AIT] was
the daughter of Bert and Edie and she was
married to Colin.
Colin was a short, solidly built Aboriginal
man. Colin's roles at Bethcar included
driving the school bus, fixing the pipes
and operating the pump which pumped water
up from the river.
While I was at Bethcar, I do not remember
anybody from the government coming to check
on the kids to see if we were okay.
I remember that some of the girls at
Bethcar would receive special treatment,
like having bedroom all to themselves with
special toys and presents. I am not sure
why they were treated differently. It
seems to me that Bert and Edie just had
their favourites. I did not receive
special treatment.
I used to share a room with Amelia Moore
and [AII]. They are my mother's sisters,
so they are my aunties, though I am
a little older than they are.
There were daily chores at Bethcar that the
kids had to do. My job was to make the
beds. If I did not make the boys' and
girls' beds, I would get flogged by Edith.
She would hit me with a belt or an electric
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jug cord. Usually a flogging involved
being hit many times, and I would end up
with bruises and swelling. Usually I was
hit across the back of the legs. Sometimes
we would rotate around the jobs, so I might
change to cleaning the bathroom or shining
shoes.
One morning, a girl had wet her bed.
I knew she would get a hiding with the
strap or a jug cord if this was discovered,
so I decided to hide the soiled sheets and
put clean sheets on her bed. After I had
finished, Colin entered the bedroom and
grabbed me. He touched my boobs and then
he pushed me under the bed. He kept
touching my boobs and rubbing my vagina on
the outside of my underpants. I remember
that I heard the sound of someone
approaching, and Colin stopped. I was
scared. I thought I would be safe at
Bethcar, but after this incident, I knew
that I was not safe.
I was in absolute shock and I did not know
what to do.
Immediately afterwards, I attended a bible
reading class that Colin was leading.
I was so embarrassed that I could not look
at him. Thereafter, when I saw Colin
around Bethcar, I would feel sick. I was
about 12 years old at the time.
I told my auntie about what happened, and
she said words to the effect of, "Do not
worry about it". I knew she was right,
because I believe if I had told someone,
I would just get a hiding.
I did not tell anyone about what happened.
I had heard other girls say that they had
been touched inappropriately and seen them
get a hiding for saying it. No-one
believed the girls. All the grown-ups at
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lying".
I remember Bert, Edie or [AIT] would
regularly give us hidings, usually for
minor things like not doing what we were
asked. We might be asked to wash the
laundry with an old hand-operated washing
machine. One of the parts used to come off
and it was hard to use. If I complained
that I couldn't do it, they would flog me
and say, "Yes, you can". I tried to stay
out of trouble.
Before I arrived at Bethcar, I could get
away from people who I thought might hurt
me, as I could go to another house where
I thought I was safe. At Bethcar, however,
I could not go anywhere. Colin would prowl
the halls at night and I could hear him
walking around. I would hide under my bed
at night, hoping that if he came looking
for sex, he could not find me. I was
afraid to sleep, in case he found me.
I was so scared.
I ran away from Bethcar once because of
Colin, but Welfare brought me back to the
home. Terry was still the welfare officer.
I don't recall telling Terry why I ran
away. I think Terry asked me why I ran
away, but I made something up because I was
too scared that it would get back to Bert
and Edie. I left Bethcar as soon as
I could. I ran away a second time to
Brewarrina, but the police told me that
I had to leave town, so I went to Bourke
and stayed with a family I knew.
I attended school in Bourke for a little
while, but later I returned to Brewarrina.
I never went back to Bethcar but stayed
with family.
I was disgusted about what happened to me
and I remember I would often see Colin
around Brewarrina. Often after I saw
Colin, I would go and have a drink to
mingle with others and try to forget.
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I felt angry about what Colin had done to
me. It made me angry that he was
conducting bible readings and carrying on
like he was respectable, even though he had
sexually abused me. When I saw him,
I would want to smash a bottle and cut him.
I still have so much hate in my heart.
When I was 18 years old, I had my first
son. I have had four children to different
fathers, but I could never care for any of
them. My children have been in care for
most of their lives. Two of my children
are in gaol - one in Brewarrina and one in
Kempsey.
In or about 1999, I did some relief work at
Bulgun Place, a respite care centre, where
I helped out with the residents, but I have
not been able to work since then because
there are not many jobs in Brewarrina and
I don't have any qualifications.
I am very poorly educated and can barely
read or write.
After I left Bethcar, I turned to alcohol
to solve my problems and to make the pain
go away. However, it just got worse and
worse.
I am a heavy smoker and I have a history of
drug and alcohol abuse. I have attended
numerous rehabilitation programs. My life
has been a hazy existence of grog and
drugs, and any time when I am sober, I feel
great remorse about not being able to look
after my children.
I blamed myself for what happened at
Bethcar.
I have made a few suicide attempts,
starting when I was about 17 years old.
I have felt depressed all of my life and
turned to the grog to ease my feelings.
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I did not appreciate what depression was
until my doctor told me I was suffering
from depression. He put me on tablets, and
I did not notice any difference. I have
stopped taking the tablets.
I trust nobody because adults in my life
have taken advantage of me, and the only
time I can cope with life is when I am
drunk or using drugs.
I have had a number of relationships with
men, many of whom have been physically and
sexually abusive towards me. An incident
in 2006 ended with my partner being put in
gaol after stabbing me.
I have never had anyone look after me. One
of the fathers of my children would hit me
and a former boyfriend also hit me, but
this is nothing compared to the hate that
I have in my heart for Colin.
I feel sad and scared that my life has
turned out as it has. I blame the abuse at
Bethcar for all of my problems.
I accept that I have been very traumatised
by the incidents of sexual abuse I have
experienced.
I would like to try and get a house on the
coast somewhere away from Brewarrina.
I would like to get my girls back and try
to protect them. I think that things
happened to them in foster care, because
I have asked them if they were abused, but
they told me it was none of my business.
In February 2003 I received a four-month
suspended sentence for assault. I knew
that the only way to stay out of gaol was
to get off the grog, so I went to rehab at
Orana Haven. I do not think rehab helps.
I need to find the willpower to do it
myself.
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I have been in gaol on a number of
occasions for drunkenness, drink driving
and fighting. I do not know what is going
to happen to me. I am trying to stay off
the grog so that I do not stress out as
much.
I want my story and the story of Bethcar to
be told so that the public knows what
happened at Bethcar.
About February 2001, I had an interview
with Detective Freer in relation to
criminal charges against Colin. I did not
understand the purpose of the interview or
that Colin was being charged for having
assaulted me at Bethcar.
About December 2002, I made a statement at
Brewarrina Police Station about Colin. It
has been hard for me in Brewarrina since
I made the statement. I have experienced
people giving me a hard time for reporting
the incident, and they call me a liar.
I am not a liar. I know what happened to
me.
I did not know there was a claim I could
make for compensation against the State of
New South Wales for what happened to me at
Bethcar until I was informed by my
solicitors at the Women's Legal Services in
2003.
I received about $30,000 in victims
compensation for the assaults on me by
Colin Gibson. The money did not last long.
I have no control over my spending and
I cannot plan my future.
In or about 2008, my solicitors, Women's
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a claim against the State for the lack of
care of me whilst I was at Bethcar. Before
that, I did not know that there was any
time limit in bringing a claim against the
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State, and even to this day I do not fully
understand all of the issues around
bringing the claim.
It was not until my solicitors told me in
about 2008 that I might have a claim
against the State for the things that
happened to me at Bethcar that I understood
any rights that I might have against the
State for what happened to me at Bethcar.
I am glad I went through this process.
Women's Legal Services explained the
process of the civil litigation, and
I found that what they told me was
accurate. It was difficult to talk about
the abuse again.
I did not really know what to expect as
a result of the litigation but was hoping
to get some further financial compensation.
At the end of the process, I received about
$107,000. This was more than I expected to
get.
I found Women's Legal Services to be very
helpful. They guided me through the
process and I relied on their advice.
I believe they gave me good advice.
I would use their services again if I had
to go through a similar process.
The money I received as a result of the
litigation process has helped me to move on
with my life.
MS DEANE:
May it please the Commission.
THE CHAIR:
Thank you. Mr Lloyd, could you also ensure
that [AIH] receives our thanks for her statement.
MR LLOYD:
I will do that, your Honour.
Your Honour and Commissioner, the next witness is
[AIQ] and is subject to the pseudonym direction that
your Honour made earlier in the day.
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Her statement is found behind tab 5 in volume 1 of the
witness bundle. Her position is the same as the previous
witness, in that she does not feel up to giving evidence in
the witness box and would prefer for her statement to be
read by Ms Deane. I tender that statement.
THE CHAIR:
That statement will be exhibit 19-6.
EXHIBIT #19-6 STATEMENT OF [AIQ] DATED 18/09/2014
MS DEANE:
This statement made by me accurately sets
out the evidence that I am prepared to give
to the Royal Commission into Institutional
Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. The
statement is true and correct to the best
of my knowledge and belief.
Where direct speech is referred to in this
statement, it is provided in words or words
to the effect of those which, to the best
of my recollection, were used at the time.
My name is [AIQ]. I was born in 1972 and
I am 42 years old. My mother lived in
Brewarrina when pregnant with me. My
mother was flown to Sydney for my birth,
where I was born premature. I spent three
months in hospital in Sydney. I have never
met my father and do not know who he is.
I am aware that he died when I was about
8 years old. I also have a half-sister,
who is 13 years younger than me.
After leaving hospital in Sydney, my mother
placed me into the care of Bethcar
Children's Home in Brewarrina, New South
Wales, at the age of three months. My
mother was also brought up at Bethcar.
After leaving me at Bethcar, my mother went
and studied nursing at St Vincent's
Hospital in Sydney, though she visited me
on occasions. I lived at Bethcar until
I was seven or eight years old, when I went
to live with my mother and stepfather after
they got married.
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Bethcar was a residential foster home for
Aboriginal children who could not be cared
for by their parents. Bethcar was located
about 9 miles outside of Brewarrina. The
home consisted of two residential houses.
The first was a large house, where most of
the children lived with Bert and Edith
Gordon. There were about 32 kids at
Bethcar. Bert Gordon and Edith Gordon were
responsible for the running of Bethcar.
I called them "Pop" and "Nan".
[AIT] and Colin Gibson lived in the second
smaller house. [AIT] was the daughter of
Bert and Edith. Colin Gibson was married
to [AIT]. They had two children of their
own and a foster daughter, [AIO]. I used
to stay in both of the two houses. When
staying in the smaller house, I would share
a room with [AIO]. In the big house,
I would share a room with the young girls,
[AIG], Kate and [AIE].
Whilst living at Bethcar, we were required
to clean, wash up and make our beds. If we
didn't do our chores, we would be hit,
mostly by Colin. Sometimes he would hit me
with his bare hand or branches off the
pepper tree out the front of the house. He
would hit me a number of times across the
back of the legs. Often I would suffer
bruising and swelling as a result. We had
to clean and slave for them; otherwise, we
would get a hiding.
Mum would visit maybe once a year, whenever
she had time off and it was convenient for
her.
When I was five years old, I started
school. I went to Brewarrina Central
Public School. I remember that my teacher
in kindergarten was Mrs Wearne. Gibson
used to drive us to school in a bus.
Every morning at Bethcar, all of the kids
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participated in a bible study.
I don't remember exactly when the sexual
abuse by Gibson started, but I think I was
two or three years old at the time.
I remember one specific incident when I was
five years old. I was outside playing
after school when Gibson approached me. He
asked me if I wanted some lollies, and
I followed him into his house. He gave me
some lollies and took me into the bedroom
that he and [AIT] shared. Gibson then lay
me down on the bed on my back and took my
pants off. I was wearing tracksuit pants
because the weather was cold.
After Gibson took my pants off, he removed
his jeans. He then lay down on top of me
and pushed his penis into my vagina and had
sex with me. It really hurt and I just lay
there and closed my eyes. During this
incident, I did not say anything and Gibson
did not say anything. When he was
finished, I do not know if he ejaculated,
I put my pants back on and went back
outside. Following this incident, I was
bleeding from my vagina. I did not tell
anyone about what happened.
About a month later, the same thing
happened. I was outside playing with some
of the other kids in Bethcar - Kate Biles,
[AIL] and [AIG]. Gibson coaxed me into his
house by offering me lollies. I again
followed him into the house and Gibson took
me into his bedroom. He lay me down and
took my pants off. He then took off his
pants. He then lay on top of me and pushed
his penis into my vagina and moved it in
and out. I don't remember how long this
went on for.
When he finished, I don't know if he
ejaculated, I again put my pants back on
and went back outside. It really hurt this
time as well and caused me to bleed from my
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vagina again. I didn't really understand
what he was doing to me at the time, but
I was really upset each time that Gibson
did this to me. I did not tell anyone
about this incident.
I also remember another occasion when
Gibson sexually assaulted me and caused me
to be late for dinner. I think it took
place in his house. I remember I was
wearing a red knitted jumpsuit and that it
was raining. I don't remember how old
I was during this incident, but I think
I was very young. I think it was before
I started school. I remember that I had
blood running down my legs from the abuse
by Gordon. I was flogged by Edith for
being late for dinner.
I was never taken to the hospital in
relation to the sexual assaults. I didn't
tell anyone about the bleeding. I was too
scared to tell anyone. I believe the
adults would have called me a liar and
I would have been flogged for talking about
it.
I also remember Gibson molesting me in the
schoolhouse before it burnt down. He used
to make me fondle his genitals. I am
certain that Gibson continued to sexually
abuse me until I left Bethcar and went to
live with my mother, although I can't
remember all of the specific incidents.
I would estimate that Gibson sexually
abused me between five and ten times during
my time at Bethcar.
The girls at Bethcar used to confide in
each other and we discussed the abuse by
Gibson. I am pretty certain Gibson was
abusing all of the girls at Bethcar. There
were about 15 girls at Bethcar when I was
there, ranging from about 16 years old to
about 3 or 4 years old.
Other than discussing the abuse with the
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other girls, I didn't tell anyone of the
abuse. Gibson would get angry and
physically abusive if we did anything
wrong, so I was too scared of him to tell
anyone else. [AIT] was nice to us and
I didn't want to upset her by telling her
what her husband was doing.
The first time I told an adult about the
abuse from Gibson was when I told my foster
sister in about 2007. Since the court
matter where Gibson was convicted, it has
been very hard for me. Half of the family
don't believe anything happened, and I know
people have been talking behind my back,
but things have been a little better since
Gibson was convicted and put in gaol.
When I was about seven or eight years old,
my mother married my stepfather. My mother
was in a better position to care for me, so
I left Bethcar and went to live with my
mother and my stepfather in Gosford,
New South Wales. My mother was working as
a nurse. My stepfather had a number of
different jobs. I did not get on with my
stepfather and we continue to dislike each
other. I also felt like my mother had
dumped me in Bethcar and it was her fault
that I had been abused.
Whilst living in Gosford, I attended
Brisbania Public School, then Lisarow High
School on the Central Coast. I left school
in year 11, as I did not like school
anymore.
In about 1991, I moved to Scone because my
mother and stepfather were too interfering
and wanted to rule my life. I didn't talk
to my mother for about 10 years. Whilst in
Scone, I met a man. He and I had
a relationship during which I fell pregnant
and gave birth to my first son. We ended
our relationship because we were both too
young and it didn't work out. At the end
of the relationship, I gave my son to my
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mother to look after.
I was unemployed and receiving unemployment
benefits. A couple of years later, I met
[REDACTED]. We started a relationship and
were together for 10 years. During this
relationship, I had a further three
children. [REDACTED] turned out to be an
alcoholic and would regularly come home
drunk and bash me. When my son was about
two months old, I walked out and moved back
to Brewarrina.
In 2001 I spoke with detectives about the
abuse by Gibson. A statement was drafted,
but I declined to sign the statement as
I was pregnant with my youngest child at
the time and did not want to become
involved.
In 2007 I made an application for victims
compensation for the abuse that I suffered
at Bethcar. I provided some statutory
declarations that outlined the abuse that
I suffered from Gibson. I also underwent
medical and psychological examinations.
In 2009 I was awarded $42,000 compensation
for the abuse.
The sexual abuse was horrible. I had
no-one I could talk to about it, so I just
bottled it up inside and blocked it out of
my mind. This caused me to become a timid,
shy and weak child. I always kept to
myself and was very uncomfortable at high
school when the other girls would talk
about sex.
In order to continue blocking out the
memories, I started to use drugs and
alcohol. I abused drugs from when I was
18 years old until I was about 35 years
old. I was using heroin, amphetamines and
cannabis. I was drinking as much as
32 bottles of beer a day.
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I hate people seeing me naked. I can't
stand my partner coming into the bathroom
if I am undressed. I do not care about my
experience and usually wear ugly clothing.
I see myself as unattractive.
The abuse has affected by ability to have
relationships. I cannot trust people and
I cringe at the idea of having sex. I try
to make up excuses and use drugs and
alcohol as a way of avoiding sex by getting
my partners too intoxicated.
I hate people touching me. I cannot play
games with my youngest son when he tries to
hold me down and tickle me.
Once the police contacted me and the
investigation of Gibson commenced, I could
no longer block out the memories of my
abuse. I then became depressed, and
I suffer from severe anxiety disorder and
severe post-traumatic stress disorder.
I also contracted Lupus, which I suffered
from for about two years. I am still on
steroid medication for the Lupus and it is
current in remission. I suffer from
cardiac, respiratory and cholesterol
problems, and when I am depressed I still
drink alcohol. I suffered from a stoke
last year.
About 2007 I told my mother about the
abuse. I also sought some counselling in
relation to the abuse. Since Gibson has
been convicted and sent to prison, it has
helped me to come to terms with the abuse
and I have felt a little better knowing
that he has been found guilty of his
crimes. As a result, I have stopped the
counselling sessions.
I was advised by my lawyers, Women's Legal
Services, that the government had
a responsibility to properly care for me
whilst I was under their care. The abuse
I suffered at Bethcar was a result of the
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government not fulfilling their duty of
care for me and I was advised that I may be
able to make a claim against the
government.
Women's Legal Services explained everything
to me very clearly and I was aware of the
process. I was happy with the advice that
I received from them.
I went through the litigation process
because I believe the government needed to
be held accountable for what happened to me
at Bethcar. I also felt I deserved some
compensation, and I also wanted to help
ensure that the same did not happen to
other little kids. I feel that I achieved
what I wanted from the litigation.
I remember that I received about $110,000
in compensation from the government.
I don't recall Women's Legal Services
advising me how much money I might get, but
I was happy with the amount I was awarded.
MS DEANE:
May it please the Commission.
THE CHAIR:
Thank you.
our thanks to [AIQ].
MR LLOYD:
Mr Lloyd, could you also convey
I shall, your Honour.
I call Leonie Knight. Her statement is to be found
behind tab 6 in volume 1 of the witness bundle. Ms Knight
is happy for her name to be published.
MR MENZIES:
Your Honour, I notice that the last
paragraph of that last statement was not read. Can we
assume that it's taken as read? Paragraph 40.
MR LLOYD:
Perhaps I could just read it. Paragraph 40 of
the statement of [AIQ], exhibit 19-6, is as follows:
It was a difficult process in that I had to
relive all those horrible memories again,
but it was worthwhile. I would use Women's
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a similar process. I found them to be very
caring and they kept me fully informed of
what was happening. I had a good
relationship with them.
THE CHAIR:
Thank you.
<LEONIE PATRICIA KNIGHT, sworn:
[2.55pm]
<EXAMINATION BY MR LLOYD:
MR LLOYD:
Q.
Can you say your name, please?
A.
Leonie Knight.
Q.
A.
You made a statement on 7 October 2014?
Yes.
Q.
In that statement, you were telling the truth, weren't
you?
A.
Yes.
EXHIBIT #19-7 STATEMENT OF LEONIE PATRICIA KNIGHT
DATED 7/10/2014
MR LLOYD:
Q.
You have Ms Kate Turner there next to you
in the witness box. You are feeling nervous about reading
your statement out; is that right?
A.
Yes.
Q.
But you're going to have a go at doing it. You know
that if you have difficulties in continuing, you can ask
Ms Turner to take over the process. Can I invite you to
read your statement, please, Ms Knight?
A.
"This statement made by me accurately sets out the
evidence that I am prepared to give to the Royal Commission
into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. The
statement is true and correct to the best of my knowledge
and belief.
My full name is Leonie Patricia Knight.
old.
I was born on 8 March 1968 in Bourke.
I am 46 years
I have 14 siblings.
Since about 2009, I have lived in Bourke.
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my mother and two daughters.
Dubbo.
Prior to that, I lived in
When I was about 13 years old, I was picked up by
either the police or DoCS, I can't remember who, and taken
to Bourke Children's Court where it was alleged that I was
an uncontrollable child. That night I was locked up in
Bourke gaol and my mother and father were not informed
where I was until the next morning. The court sent me to
a detention centre in Sydney, where I remained for
one month. I returned to Bourke court and was ordered to
reside at Bethcar Children's Home in Brewarrina, New South
Wales, until I turned 18 years old.
Bethcar was run by Bert Gordon and Edith Gordon, who
were husband and wife. Edie Gordon was my father's niece
or auntie, I'm unsure. I trusted them as they were family
members.
Not long after arriving at Bethcar, I came home from
school one day, I went into my room and I lay on the bed.
I remember that Bert forced the door open, he approached me
as I was lying on the bed and he said words to the
following effect, 'What is wrong?' I said, 'Nothing, get
out.' I was lying face down on the bed. He put his hand
under my body and felt my breasts. I told him to get out.
He refused to leave. He took my clothes off and raped me.
I tried to fight him off, but he was too big.
I felt sick and dirty afterwards that I scrubbed
myself in the shower. I have only told my sister a few
years ago about it.
I was physically abused by Edie, who would beat me
with a jug cord if I disagreed with her or didn't do my
house chores. She would also use a strap to beat me.
Some time after the sexual abuse, I escaped from
Bethcar and I went to my father's friend, Tom Winters, in
Brewarrina who worked for Legal Aid. I stayed there for
a couple of weeks. I did not return to Bethcar after that.
My dad came and picked me up and I stayed with my dad after
that.
old.
I left Bethcar permanently when I was about 17 years
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Some time later, I returned to Bourke and I told my
sister about the sexual abuse. She took me to the police
station in Bourke to make a statement. I cannot remember
if I made a statement or not. I do not recall any action
being taken and I remember getting the sense that the
police did not believe my story. I kept going to the
police station and asking them if there was a court date or
what was happening, but there were different police
officers there each time and they didn't know much about
it.
I gave up following it up after a while. I thought
there was no point in discussing the abuse any more or
telling anyone else in a position of authority, because
nobody ever did anything.
After leaving Bethcar, I started using alcohol and
heavy drugs. I have used marijuana, morphine and I have
been on the methadone program. I have used alcohol and
drugs to avoid reliving my time at Bethcar.
Some time ago, I was in Sydney looking for heroin on
the street and somebody gave me gyprock powder, which
I injected, and I was extremely sick thereafter. I have
had a bad hip ever since.
I have been told that I have hepatitis C.
I have attended rehabilitation for drug addiction.
has helped somewhat.
It
When I was about 18 years old, I had my first child.
Shortly after the birth of my first child, my father died.
I feel that my life has been in absolute chaos ever since.
I have had 10 children to several different partners.
I was unable to look after my children and they have been
cared for by various people, including relatives and DoCS.
My eldest child is in gaol. My 11-year-old lives with my
nephew. My 8-year-old son is still in foster care, and his
sister, who is 5 years old, is also in foster care. I get
to see them four times a year for two hours. Ever since my
children were taken away from me, I feel like my life has
been a life of crime.
I was married for about seven years and I had two
children with my now ex-husband. During that relationship,
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I was bashed every day when my ex-husband became drunk.
I think he drank because two of his brothers had hung
themselves and he felt guilty about their deaths.
I do not think that my ex-husband liked the children
that I had with other men. On one occasion, my ex-husband
struck my sleeping 5-year-old son with a doorstopper,
causing him a significant head injury. On another
occasion, my ex-husband lifted my daughter up by the hair
and dropped her heavily onto the ground. I recall he would
regularly bash me in front of the children.
In 2009, I was sexually assaulted by a person
I thought was a friend of mine. By this stage, I had just
given up and I did not have the mental or physical strength
to report the assault to the police.
I feel my problems in life are as a result of being
abused sexually, physically and psychologically while at
Bethcar.
Since leaving Bethcar, my life has been an absolute
blur and I do not care about what happens to me from day to
day. I have only survived for my children and I have tried
to look after them, but I feel guilty that I have failed in
doing that too.
I have accepted that life consists of sexual and
physical abuse. I no longer care about anything.
If any uncle or family relative hugs me or makes any
physical advance, I get sick in the stomach because
I trusted Bert, who was an uncle, yet he sexually assaulted
me.
All my adult life I have had problems dealing with
people in authority and I do not trust them. I feel that
they let me down when I needed them most.
I have had anxiety attacks all throughout my life and
for a long time I thought I suffered from asthma. At some
stage, a doctor told me that I suffered from depression and
prescribed tablets, but they did not help, either. I also
suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder.
I continue to have nightmares on a regular basis about
what happened at Bethcar. When I am in angry or in a rage
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about Bethcar, I bang my head against the wall until
I hurt.
I often think about suicide, but I hang around for my
children's sake.
I hate talking about Bethcar and what went on there.
I have had to speak about it to the various doctors or
psychologists who have examined me. At each event, I have
found it very upsetting and I have felt sick and anxious
for days afterwards.
I made no connection between my mental state and what
had happened at Bethcar until I met with my solicitor at
the Women's Legal Services in about 2008. Even when I went
to the police to tell them what had happened originally in
or about 1983, I still did not appreciate that my ongoing
psychiatric condition was related to Bethcar, but I wanted
the police to take action so that the offenders could be
punished.
After I reported the sexual abuse in 1983, I did not
have any further contact with the police until I was
contacted by Detective Freer, who informed me that there
was going to be a court case in relation to Bert in about
2005.
I understand that the planned court case did not go
ahead because Bert had passed away.
When Detective Freer contacted me in relation to Bert,
he also told me about the criminal proceedings against
Colin. I did not attend the court case of Colin. I have
been told that Colin has been sent to gaol.
In September 2005, my solicitors at Legal Aid in Dubbo
prepared a victims compensation application on my behalf.
I did not know that I could make an application for victims
compensation prior to my solicitors informing me. My
solicitors told me that my application was out of time and
I would need to apply to have the time extended in order to
allow me to file an application. In preparation for that
application, I was examined by Marie Murphy,
a psychologist, and she provided a report dated 6 July
2009. I told her what had gone on at Bethcar.
In July 2011, I received $8,000 for the compensable
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injury of sexual assault.
I can't remember how long the victims compensation
process took. I didn't have much expectation of what
I would get from that process.
After I spoke to the police in about 1983, I do not
recall any further action being taken and therefore I did
not believe that I had any rights or capacity to do
anything further with regards to the events that occurred
at Bethcar.
In about 2008, my solicitors at Women's Legal Services
told me that I might be able to bring a claim against the
government for the way the people failed to protect me at
Bethcar. I am not sure what all of this was about, but
I attended appointments and meetings with my lawyers.
In preparation for the civil litigation, my solicitor
at the Women's Legal Services sent me to be examined by
Dr Jungfer and I saw her on 23 August 2010. I had to
travel down from Bourke to Sydney, and I found this
experience extremely stressful as I do not like being in
lots of traffic and noise.
I had a good experience with the Women's Legal
Services. They were able to answer all my questions and
explain to me how it was all going to work. I went into
the litigation wanting DoCS to be punished and I wanted an
apology from them. Money would have been helpful, too.
The money I received from the litigation did not give me
back what I lost and it didn't last very long, especially
with such a large family.
I'm glad that I went through the process. It was
difficult re-telling my story over and over again,
especially with the counsellors. I prefer to talk about my
story with people who have been through the same thing.
The process took a very long time and it would be better if
it could have taken less time. There were times I wanted
to pull out."
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THE CHAIR:
MS ENGLAND:
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Does anyone have any questions?
No questions, your Honour.
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MR MENZIES:
No, thank you.
THE CHAIR:
Thank you for telling us your story.
now excused.
You are
<THE WITNESS WITHDREW
MR LLOYD:
Your Honour, I call Janet Loughman. Her
statement is found behind tab 7 in the witness bundle.
<JANET LOUGHMAN, affirmed:
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MR LLOYD:
Q.
What is your name?
A.
Janet Loughman.
Q.
You made a statement dated 3 October 2014?
A.
I did. May I be provided with a redacted copy of that
statement?
Q.
Certainly. We will arrange for that to occur.
that statement you were telling the truth?
A.
Yes.
MR LLOYD:
THE CHAIR:
In
I tender that statement and the annexures.
They will be exhibit 19-8.
EXHIBIT #19-8 STATEMENT OF JANET LOUGHMAN DATED 03/10/2014
AND ANNEXURES
MR LLOYD:
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Ms Loughman, could you just go, please, to
paragraph 44 of your statement?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is there some aspect of that paragraph that you wish
to correct?
A.
There is. My recollection is that there were several
occasions where comments were made about the model litigant
rules, but on looking through the records yesterday I could
not find more than two comments, so I'd feel more
comfortable if that were changed to refer to "on two
occasions".
Q.
Just so that I can understand the process, yesterday
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you went back through your files -A.
Yes.
Q.
-- to try and clarify whether your statement in
general, but particularly in paragraph 44, was accurate?
A.
Yes.
THE CHAIR:
Q. Do you have a note of the response when
that issue was raised?
A.
I'm not sure, your Honour. I'd have to check our file
notes.
Q.
You are not looking at transcripts; you're just
looking at your notes?
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I was looking at transcripts.
Q.
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So we'd be able to find what the response was?
Yes.
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MR LLOYD:
You might do that, Mr Lloyd.
Certainly, your Honour.
Q.
You don't happen to remember the dates?
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One was before Judge Curtis in the District Court
in December 2012 and the other was before his Honour Judge
Knox after the hearing of the notice of motion in relation
to the joinder of the pleadings, and that was in
about June 2009.
Q.
A.
May or June 2009?
May 2009.
MR LLOYD:
I can inform your Honour that both those
transcripts are available and will come into evidence,
I think.
THE CHAIR:
them?
MR LLOYD:
Yes.
As soon as we have them, can we see
Certainly.
Q.
Can I just take you back to paragraph 4 of your
statement, please, Ms Loughman?
A.
Yes.
Q.
In that paragraph you say that the Women's Legal
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Services NSW is a State-wide community legal centre
established to provide community legal services to women,
particularly those disadvantaged in their access to
justice. Can I ask you some questions about what happens
to the legal fees which are incurred when the Women's Legal
Services acts for those disadvantaged women. In a case
such as the Bethcar litigation, it's right, is it, that the
Women's Legal Services will record their time?
A.
Record our time as?
Q.
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The time spent on the litigation?
It's not formally recorded, no.
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But there is some record so that a calculation can be
made -A.
Yes.
Q.
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-- of what the costs will be.
Yes.
Q.
The purpose of that is, obviously, in those cases
where there is a costs order made in favour of your
clients, there can be some calculation of the amount.
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Yes.
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Is it the position that all of the solicitors,
certainly from 2008 to 2013, who worked at the Women's
Legal Services were salaried solicitors?
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Salaried solicitors or volunteers.
Q.
Were any of them on any sort of arrangement where
there was any financial incentive based on fees which were
recorded or billed in matters?
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Not at all.
Q.
Can I take you to paragraph 6, please. One of the
things you say in that paragraph is that the Bethcar
litigation was legally and logistically complex. Can
I just ask you some questions about the logistical
complexity for the moment. One aspect of the logistical
complexity was that you obviously had a number of
plaintiffs, 13 in total. Were those women all located in
the one spot in terms of where they lived?
A.
No, they were located throughout New South Wales, some
of them in remote parts of New South Wales.
Q.
We've heard evidence from some of those 13 women
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already, but was it the case in your experience that many
or most of them had limited education?
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Yes.
Q.
Was it difficult to explain the complexities of the
litigation process and system?
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Yes, it was, and we took as much care as we could to
explain things clearly and write our letters in plain
language.
Q.
Was it necessary from time to time to have solicitors
travel out to see them where they lived?
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Yes.
Q.
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Did that occur?
It did.
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How did that work in terms of deploying the resources
of the Women's Legal Services?
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The Women's Legal Services paid the cost of travel.
The organisation is a company limited by guarantee. It has
some small surplus reserves on occasions. The organisation
decided to allocate some of those reserves to supporting
disbursements in this litigation, so we had some resources
to pay for the travel of solicitors to meet with our
clients. Up until I think it was 2010 we were specially
funded to provide services to Walgett and Bourke and
Brewarrina. It's a federally-funded family violence
prevention legal service.
Q.
What happened in 2010?
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The funding for those services was given to a
different agency.
THE CHAIR:
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What were the criteria by which you could
make a decision to act in litigation such as this
litigation?
A.
Well, the decision is effectively the decision of the
organisation and the decision ultimately of mine as its
principal solicitor. So we have a reasonable amount of
autonomy in relation to that. We have to make the decision
based on our capacity. So acting in this matter was an
unusual -Q.
It's effectively Legal Aid for civil litigation
which -A.
It's a form of Legal Aid for civil litigation.
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Q.
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That's the effect of it.
Yes.
Q.
And with, as I understand it, primarily government
funds.
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Yes.
Q.
Which is unusual in the 21st century environment. Are
there criteria which surround your capacity to effectively
provide aid to plaintiffs to sue in a civil court?
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There are our own criteria that we have, and they
include the priority areas of law that we focus on, which
is domestic violence, family law, sexual assault. It
includes the matter having reasonable prospects of success.
It includes our capacity. It also - we also prioritise
very disadvantaged clients.
Q.
So if I try to capture it, the plaintiffs would be
people who, by your assessment, are disadvantaged.
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Yes.
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Secondly, have a case with reasonable prospects of
success -A.
Yes.
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-- founded upon violence or sexual assault. Would
they be the criteria?
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Yes. There would possibly - yes, they would be the
broad criteria that we would use, yes.
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Have you provided assistance for many plaintiffs to
sue in a civil court for damages?
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At Women's Legal Services?
Q.
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Yes.
No.
Q.
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This would be a rare case?
Yes.
THE CHAIR:
Thank you.
MR LLOYD:
Q.
In paragraph 9 you say that you were
significantly assisted by John Catsanos and Helen Wall of
counsel?
A.
Yes.
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Was it the case that Mr Catsanos was the lead counsel
and Ms Wall was acting as his junior?
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Yes.
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To
engaged
basis?
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It
call it
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your knowledge, were both Mr Catsanos and Ms Wall
on what might be called a contingency or spec
was a contingency or spec basis, but I would also
pro bono, because they had no expectation of fees.
Is that something they said to you?
Yes.
Q.
Can I take you, please, to paragraph 27 of your
statement. In that paragraph you make reference to
"difficulties for the plaintiffs attending consultations
with the medico-legal experts".
A.
Yes.
Q.
In this case, it was the position that the plaintiffs
for whom you were acting attended at consultations with
psychiatrists?
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Yes.
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And other doctors as well?
Psychologists probably.
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What were the particular difficulties in relation to
the plaintiffs attending those consultations?
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There were difficulties in that they needed to come to
Sydney in order to see Dr Jungfer in particular. Coming to
the big city was a difficult experience, not one that the
plaintiffs - that was stressful for the plaintiffs. It was
also an experience where they would be expected to speak of
their experiences to the doctor. That would be stressful
as well.
Q.
On that point, you were in the room, as I understand
it, when Ms Amelia Moore gave evidence about her particular
difficulties in recounting what had happened to her to
Dr Jungfer.
A.
Yes.
Q.
Was that an experience that you were aware that other
women in the group were also having difficulty with?
A.
I believe so.
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And, similarly, Ms Knight gave evidence about
difficulties in recounting the history to people who
I think she said she didn't really know.
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Yes.
Q.
Again, was that a similar problem that, in your
experience, other women in the group faced?
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Yes.
Q.
Was it easy to explain to the women the importance or
reason why it was that they were required to go and see the
doctors and the psychologists?
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It wasn't me personally who made that explanation to
the plaintiffs. Solicitor Dianne Hamey was primarily
involved in doing that.
Q.
Can I ask you some questions about paragraph 39.
There you make reference to your counsel being hopeful
about the prospect of mediation once proceedings were
commenced?
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Yes.
Q.
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You are referring there, I think, to Mr Catsanos?
Yes.
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What was it that he said?
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I recall quite a lengthy conference that Mr Catsanos
and Helen Wall and myself had before the litigation started
and I suppose I was talking about my experience of previous
litigation of a similar nature and how it was protracted
and lengthy and mediation didn't occur until well through
the process. Mr Catsanos was of a hopeful view that,
because of the nature of the experiences that the
plaintiffs had suffered, that it was a matter that he hoped
that the State would mediate early.
Q.
There is one thing I omitted to ask you in respect of
the attendances at doctors and psychologists. It was the
case, wasn't it, that the State arranged for some of the
examinations by Dr Yvonne Skinner, psychiatrist, to occur
in Dubbo to attempt to meet the convenience of some of the
women?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Can I ask you about one matter that is not addressed
in your statement. During the course of the litigation,
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did the Crown Solicitor's Office adopt a particular system
in relation to sending correspondence?
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Yes, correspondence was usually faxed as well as
posted.
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So that means you were getting two copies of
everything?
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Yes.
Q.
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Did you know why?
No, and I wondered why.
Q.
Can I take you to paragraph 59, please. In that
paragraph you give evidence about the experience of [AII]
when a subpoena for production was issued on her employer.
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Yes.
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[AII] was one of the 13 plaintiffs for whom you were
acting and she dropped out of the litigation.
A.
Yes.
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She dropped out on the basis that she was prepared to
walk away with no order as to costs.
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Yes.
Q.
Was it the position that the fact that the subpoena
was issued on her employer, having regard to your dealings
with [AII], was a factor in her doing that?
A.
I didn't take the phone call from her directly, but
I've referred to the file notes, which are quite detailed,
and, yes, she expressed serious distress at her employment
records being subpoenaed and she had been questioned about
it by her employer. She was fearful of losing her job.
She was very anxious about it.
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On the basis that she thought that if her employer
found out about the allegations in the case that her
employer might sack her; was that the fear?
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I think that was expressed as her fear, yes.
Q.
Did you have a view about whether [AII]'s case was one
of the stronger ones on liability?
A.
From recollection, her allegations were tested in the
criminal court.
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Just accept from me that there had been a plea of
guilty by Mr Gibson for the purpose of answering the
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Yes.
Does that affect your answer?
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When you say "yes", you would have regarded her case
as being one of the stronger ones -A.
In that respect, yes.
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Ms Amelia Moore, did she have some family relationship
with [AII]?
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They were sisters.
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Was there a point where Ms Amelia Moore was
considering also withdrawing from the litigation?
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Yes, she was.
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Do you know why she was considering doing that?
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She was finding the process very stressful as well,
and she'd recently gained employment and was also concerned
about the impact on her job. The impact of a potential
adverse costs order was an issue as well.
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Can I take you to paragraph 91 of your statement,
please.
THE CHAIR:
Mr Lloyd, before we get to paragraph 91,
I think that those who have an interest in these
proceedings but via the screen who have no knowledge of
what is in the statement would be interested to have at
least some summary view of what is said in relation to the
progress of the litigation through the interlocutory stage,
including what happened to the motion in relation to the
Limitation Act and then the process in relation to the
Crown's application. Her views about what is going on are
in paragraphs 83 and 84.
MR LLOYD:
And that chronology starts at about
paragraph 67.
THE CHAIR:
Take your own course, but I think that those
watching and listening would like to know the essence of
what is said there.
MR LLOYD:
Certainly.
Q.
Can I just take you back, Ms Loughman, to paragraph 67
of your statement. There you say that on about 9 February
2009 the plaintiffs filed a motion essentially seeking a
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declaration that the limitation period was suspended, or if
that was not the position, an extension of time to sue.
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Yes.
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And the reason that that motion was filed was because
an indication had been given in earlier correspondence by
the Crown Solicitor's Office that a limitation defence was
likely to be raised?
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Yes, that's the case.
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And that motion in respect of the suspension of time
and the Limitation Act, or the extension in the event that
time was not suspended, came to be fixed for hearing on
20 February 2012?
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Yes.
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About two or three weeks before that motion was fixed
for hearing, do you remember that notice was given on
behalf of the State that the State wanted to file its own
notice of motion?
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Yes.
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Could you tell the Commission your recollection or the
summary of what is in your statement about what that motion
that the State wanted to file was about?
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That was an application to permanently stay the
proceedings.
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The basis of that application, as you understood it,
was that a fair trial was not possible.
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Yes.
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Prior to that motion being filed, had the State filed
and served some evidence from an investigator?
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Yes, from investigator Peter Maxwell.
Q.
There were two affidavits or statements served by
Mr Maxwell prior to the events that I'm asking you about
in February 2012, weren't there?
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Yes.
Q.
What did those affidavits deal with?
A.
The affidavits outlined the witnesses who were no
longer available, either because they had died, or were
incapacitated, had dementia.
Q.
To your recollection, did they deal with witnesses who
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might be relevant and available?
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No.
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After the State filed its motion, the matter came to
be relisted before the court; do you remember that?
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Yes, I do.
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And the application was made on behalf of the
plaintiffs, was it not, to vacate the upcoming hearing date
scheduled for 20 February 2012?
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Yes.
Q.
What was the reason why it was that an application was
made to vacate that hearing date?
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The application was made because the plaintiffs
weren't in a position to respond to that motion at such
short notice.
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Was there something in particular that you felt that
the plaintiffs needed to do in terms of being prepared to
deal with the State's motion for a permanent stay?
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Well, we were aware that one witness in particular was
very likely to be available. We had spoken to Mr Terry
Madden, and he was missing from Mr Maxwell's affidavit.
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You were in the room during the opening this morning
when reference was made to Mr Madden having authored a
document from about March 1980 -A.
Yes.
Q.
-- recounting his observation of some of the Bethcar
girls and their complaints to police.
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Yes. He was a very significant witness, I believe.
Q.
So the hearing date was vacated by her Honour
Judge Truss, and I think it is right to say the State was
ordered to pay the costs?
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I believe that's the case, yes.
Q.
Did the Women's Legal Services then go off and obtain
some evidence in response to Mr Maxwell's affidavits?
A.
Yes, we did. We undertook our own investigations over
a period of about three months.
Q.
What did those investigations that you've just told
the Commission about reveal?
A.
We identified through the documents a number of
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potential witnesses and we undertook investigations to
locate them and did locate, I think, 18 witnesses and took
affidavits from some of them.
Q.
You then, on behalf of your clients, put on evidence
disclosing what you had found in the nature of relevant
witnesses, in your assessment, who were in fact available?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Do you recall whether Mr Maxwell put on any affidavit
in response to that evidence?
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Yes, he put on an affidavit in response briefly
outlining the witnesses that he had contacted.
Q.
Was the effect of that affidavit prepared by
Mr Maxwell in response to confirm that he had in fact
spoken to at least some of the witnesses that your people
had been able to locate?
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Yes.
THE CHAIR:
Mr Lloyd, I would like to make sure we clearly
understand what happened. As I presently understand it,
the primary affidavit of Mr Maxwell was 17 May 2011.
MR LLOYD:
Yes, your Honour.
THE CHAIR:
And I think that's attached to
Mr Coutts-Trotter's statement.
MR LLOYD:
It is.
THE CHAIR:
I would be grateful if Ms Loughman had a copy
of that. We can bring it up on the screen, I think.
MR LLOYD:
Yes. It is tab 16 of the attachments or
annexures to the statement of Mr Coutts-Trotter. It's
located in volume 1 of the witness bundle, your Honour.
THE CHAIR:
Q. If we go through to paragraph 14, it seems
that the methodology was to look at files and identify
names. Then the names were broken up into categories, if
you like, and then he gives evidence in relation to each
person in the relevant category; is that right?
A.
Yes, that's right.
Q.
It's to the effect, "I've not been able to contact
that person"; is that right?
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Yes, that's right.
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And the affidavit extends over multiple paragraphs
dealing with quite a number of people that he says he's
been unable to contact; is that right?
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That's right.
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The affidavit in reply, as it were, as I understand it
again, is the affidavit sworn on 20 September 2012; is that
right? You won't know.
THE CHAIR:
Mr Lloyd?
THE WITNESS:
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MR LLOYD:
Quite so, but your Honour there is an earlier
affidavit that was in chief of 3 August 2011.
THE CHAIR:
Another one of Mr Maxwell, is it?
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behind tab 16 of Mr Coutts-Trotter's statement. It is not
paginated, but if your Honour goes about -THE CHAIR:
I have the one of 17 May.
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If your Honour goes 25 pages in, you'll see the
first affidavit of 17 May is 23 pages long. Then -THE CHAIR:
in chief?
MR LLOYD:
THE CHAIR:
person."
MR LLOYD:
The one of 3 August, I see.
So they are both
Yes.
They are to the same effect, "I can't find the
Yes.
THE CHAIR:
Q. Then, as I understand it, at the moment,
Ms Loughman, your office files an affidavit in response to
that?
A.
Yes.
Q.
Is that right?
able to find?
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Yes.
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THE CHAIR:
We'll come back to that in a moment. Then
Mr Maxwell replies to that affidavit; is that right? Is
that the way it goes?
MR LLOYD:
Yes, your Honour. That is the one that
your Honour referred to a moment ago of 20 September 2012.
THE CHAIR:
Q. He records there, as I understand it, his
response to your affidavit, Ms Loughman, by saying that he
has spoken to all of these people.
A.
Yes.
Q.
And it would seem that he spoke to some of them, by no
means all of them, in 2010?
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I believe that's what the affidavit says.
Q.
And to some of them in 2011, although maybe not many
in 2011, but certainly quite a number in 2012.
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Yes.
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And certainly, as I presently understand it, but I ask
you is this your understanding, all before the affidavit of
20 September?
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I'd have to check the document, but I believe that's
the case.
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We can check it.
THE CHAIR:
Mr Lloyd?
It looks like it to me.
Where is Ms Loughman's affidavit in reply,
MR LLOYD:
There are two, your Honour. The first is
located at tab 110 in the tender bundle, which is in
volume 2. That is an affidavit of Ms Loughman dated 23 May
2012.
THE CHAIR:
Yes, I see.
MR LLOYD:
There is another affidavit - they both deal
with this issue, but there is an affidavit of Angela
McClung of 23 May and that is at tab 111.
THE CHAIR:
Q.
Before those affidavits were filed,
Ms Loughman, had you communicated with the Crown Solicitor
about the problems that you had with Mr Maxwell's original
affidavit and the evidence he gave?
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I don't believe so, but I'd need to refer to the
records. I'm not -Q.
I have the impression that these affidavits raised an
issue of some significance obviously for you; is that
right?
A.
Mr Maxwell's affidavits?
Q.
Yes.
A.
Yes. They were filed in relation to our notice of
motion in relation to the Limitation Act and my
understanding is that they were relevant to a discretionary
issue around that question. When the defendant filed the
notice of motion to strike out, they became the basis of
the claim that we needed to meet more strongly.
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That changed the whole process around?
Yes.
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Did you have any knowledge before you started to look
as to whether or not you'd find people who were available?
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We knew we would find - or we believed we would find
Terry Madden, because we had spoken to him before. I don't
know that we had a particular view as to how many or who we
would find.
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Ultimately, how many did you find?
We found 18 witnesses.
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Who, as a general description, were people in what
category?
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People who were supervising what was happening at
Bethcar, so fairly important witnesses - we formed the view
that they were important witnesses.
Q.
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Supervising at the relevant time?
Supervising at the relevant time.
THE CHAIR:
Yes, Mr Lloyd.
MR LLOYD:
Q.
Just picking up something you told his
Honour a moment ago in terms of the position being changed
once the State filed the motion, that was, in essence, the
submission made by Mr Catsanos to her Honour Judge Truss on
14 February in support of the application to vacate the
upcoming hearing date.
A.
Yes.
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And that was a submission, as I understand it, but
please tell me if I'm wrong, that her Honour accepted?
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Yes.
Q.
So with that date of 20 February 2012 being vacated,
is it the case that both notices of motion - the
plaintiffs' and the State's - came on to be fixed for
hearing in December of that year?
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December 2012, yes.
Q.
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And that was before Judge Curtis?
It was.
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Can I just ask you, in terms of your understanding of
the effect on Ms Kathleen Biles of the vacation of that
20 February date, did you have a view about that?
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It was very difficult for her. She was getting
herself ready to come to Sydney and to give evidence and,
yes, vacating that hearing date was very difficult for her.
Q.
When those motions came on for hearing before
Judge Curtis in December 2012, Mr Maxwell was required for
cross-examination by your side?
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Yes, he was.
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And he was cross-examined by Mr Catsanos?
Yes.
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Was he asked some questions about whether he had
managed to locate some of the witnesses who he had not
referred to in his first two affidavits?
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Yes, he was.
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Was he asked whether he had a record back in his
office of all the people who he was able to locate?
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Yes, he was.
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Was a call made by Mr Catsanos, on behalf of the
plaintiffs, for the State and Mr Maxwell to produce the
documents going to all the witnesses who he was able to
find?
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Yes.
Q.
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And what happened?
When the call was made?
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Yes. What was the State's response?
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The State's response ultimately was to claim legal
professional privilege.
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Did the motions, after proceeding for a number of
days, get vacated so as to allow the parties to deal with
the call for documents that was made?
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I'm not quite sure what you mean.
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Take it from me that the motions were adjourned part
heard; they weren't completed.
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For a short period, yes.
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Tell me if this accords with your recollection:
subpoena for production was issued -A.
Yes.
a
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-- by the Women's Legal Services on the State after
the motions were stood over part heard?
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Yes.
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Seeking production of the documents that Mr Maxwell
had, essentially going to the witnesses he had been able to
locate?
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Yes, that's correct.
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Do you remember what the State's attitude to that
subpoena for production was?
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It was to claim legal professional privilege.
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Was that issue ultimately ventilated before his Honour
Judge Curtis?
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It was, and Judge Curtis found that there had been a
waiver of that privilege.
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And his Honour ordered production of the documents?
He did.
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What happened in relation to that order that his
Honour made?
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My recollection is that Mr Cashion indicated that
there would likely be an appeal lodged and an application
to stay so that those documents wouldn't have to be
produced.
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Did it come to pass that the State sought leave to
appeal and sought a stay of that order?
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Yes, they did.
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Then, ultimately, before that leave application was
determined in about the end of 2013, the State agreed to go
to mediation -A.
Yes.
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-- and the cases settled?
Yes, that's correct.
THE CHAIR:
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At that point in time, who was the mover
towards mediation - the plaintiffs or the defendant?
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The defendant.
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Can I ask you some questions about
paragraph 91, Ms Loughman, of your statement. In that
paragraph you make reference to the State not having made
any offers of settlement until the mediation, although they
did seek to elicit an offer from the plaintiffs in 2011.
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Yes.
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Could you tell the Commission about any difficulties
that were associated with getting instructions on behalf of
the 13 women for whom you acted to make an offer to resolve
their cases?
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In 2011 we approached each of the plaintiffs to seek
their views about making a modest offer of between $5,000
and $10,000 in excess of the victims compensation payments
that they had received. Two of our solicitors travelled to
where the clients - the plaintiffs - were in New South
Wales to meet with them and to talk with them about that
and to engage their views. Their views were that they
didn't want to put such a settlement offer; they were more
interested in having an apology, an acknowledgment of what
had happened to them as well as an offer of monetary
compensation.
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Is it fair to say that, in your understanding at that
time, the plaintiffs for whom you were acting had the
position that they wanted some opportunity to get some
acknowledgment by the department or the State?
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Yes, definitely.
Q.
And that merely making an offer conveyed in writing to
the other side wasn't going to achieve that.
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No, that's right.
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Was their position at that time, in your
understanding, that essentially they wanted either to go to
a mediation or run their cases to trial?
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Yes, that's the case.
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Because those were the two opportunities - ie
mediation or trial - where they felt that they had an
opportunity to obtain the acknowledgment they were seeking?
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Yes.
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Were there additional difficulties in terms of trying
to get instructions to make an offer for the 13 plaintiffs
that, short of making individual offers for each, there
would have to be some consensus among the group?
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That was the approach that we recommended to each of
the plaintiffs individually prior to the mediation.
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Were there logistical difficulties associated with
doing that?
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With?
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With trying to get some consensus amongst the group and I'm talking about in the period before the mediation
when they were all together - to make an offer?
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In the period leading up to the mediation we made many
phone calls to the plaintiffs to talk about the process and
to talk about the approach that we were recommending and we
made phone calls to them to explain that approach and to
seek their views on it.
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Ms Loughman, can I ask you some questions about
paragraph 43 of the statement of [AIH], exhibit 19-5?
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Sorry, where -Q.
Let me just tell you what aspect of the evidence
I want to ask you about. In that statement [AIH] says that
she was not aware that she could make a claim for
compensation against the State for what happened at Bethcar
until she was informed by solicitors at the Women's Legal
Services in 2003.
A.
Right.
Q.
To your knowledge, did the Women's Legal Services have
anything to do with any of these ladies from Bethcar in
2003?
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It's quite possible that we did, yes.
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But you don't know about any advice that was given at
that time?
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I would have to look at our records, but we were
providing legal services State-wide at that time.
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Your Honour, for our part, if it's of any
assistance, the reference to the Women's Legal Services in
2003 in paragraph 43 is a simple typographical error,
because when one reads the statement in its context, she is
only ever talking about a meeting in 2008, so we see
nothing in that, if that's of any -MR LLOYD:
That's helpful.
I have of Ms Loughman.
THE CHAIR:
Those are the questions that
Does anyone else have any questions?
MS ENGLAND:
No questions, your Honour.
MR MENZIES:
I do.
THE CHAIR:
How long will you be?
MR MENZIES:
A little while, your Honour. I can't do it
in five minutes. Perhaps half an hour to an hour.
THE CHAIR:
Perhaps we should adjourn.
today, Mr Lloyd?
Anything else
MR LLOYD:
No, your Honour. I was trying to be in a
position of either being able to tender or point out where
the transcripts that Ms Loughman referred to are. I do
have copies. I think that some of them are already
located -THE CHAIR:
If you can work it out, let us know as soon as
possible, that would be useful. We will resume at
10 o'clock in the morning.
AT 3.55PM THE COMMISSION ADJOURNED UNTIL
THURSDAY, 23 OCTOBER 2014 AT 10AM
.22/10/2014 (96)
10130
J LOUGHMAN (Mr Lloyd)
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$10.50 [1] - 10025:3
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$170,000 [1] - 10045:35
$20 [3] - 10059:42,
10060:6, 10060:15
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$200,000 [1] - 10037:35
$30,000 [2] - 10039:44,
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'Bethcar' [1] - 10074:3
'come [4] - 10055:17,
10055:27, 10061:19,
10062:22
'dad [2] - 10061:20,
10061:26
'DoCS' [1] - 10074:2
'get [2] - 10055:32,
10060:7
'getting [1] - 10067:27
'gidday [1] - 10060:18
'go [2] - 10058:14,
10061:32
'he [1] - 10058:31
'how [1] - 10058:24
'I've [1] - 10063:11
'if [2] - 10060:40,
10062:39
'look [1] - 10059:25
'low [1] - 10075:11
'mum [1] - 10064:34
'naughty' [1] - 10055:46
'no [6] - 10055:33,
10059:34, 10060:39,
10061:22, 10061:38,
10062:24
'Nothing [1] - 10106:24
'oh [1] - 10055:25
'Oi [2] - 10059:41,
10060:15
'open [1] - 10060:39
'ring [1] - 10064:27
'tell [1] - 10063:17
'telling [1] - 10056:14
'we're [1] - 10062:37
'what [5] - 10059:41,
10059:42, 10060:17,
10061:20, 10106:24
'who [1] - 10060:39
'you [2] - 10060:27,
10063:7
'you'll [1] - 10061:38
'you're [1] - 10064:25
'youse [1] - 10057:28
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03/10/2014 [1] - 10111:31
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1 [14] - 10035:45,
10036:31, 10038:5,
10038:33, 10044:14,
10051:47, 10053:2,
10072:5, 10073:15,
10080:7, 10088:42,
10097:1, 10104:34,
10122:37
10 [19] - 10031:21,
10032:14, 10032:46,
10035:9, 10036:3,
10037:32, 10040:45,
10041:1, 10046:26,
10054:15, 10060:37,
10072:29, 10084:11,
10084:19, 10084:41,
10101:41, 10102:6,
10107:36, 10130:38
10am [1] - 10021:27
10AM [1] - 10130:41
11 [11] - 10028:10,
10032:46, 10035:15,
10035:40, 10044:34,
10080:46, 10087:15,
10089:28, 10089:39,
10090:6, 10101:35
11-year-old [1] - 10107:39
11.55am [1] - 10051:28
110 [1] - 10124:34
111 [1] - 10124:42
12 [17] - 10028:13,
10032:22, 10032:30,
10033:2, 10033:8,
10033:13, 10037:5,
10038:38, 10041:40,
10046:4, 10054:43,
10054:45, 10057:37,
10068:16, 10076:11,
10077:1, 10091:33
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12-year-old [1] - 10076:45
13 [30] - 10028:24,
10032:9, 10032:42,
10033:2, 10034:13,
10034:32, 10034:36,
10034:44, 10034:45,
10035:2, 10045:22,
10046:30, 10046:34,
10047:24, 10047:32,
10048:2, 10058:4,
10058:41, 10059:31,
10062:5, 10062:7,
10063:6, 10068:40,
10097:34, 10106:4,
10113:42, 10113:47,
10118:18, 10128:24,
10129:12
13-year-old [1] - 10062:16
14 [11] - 10040:29,
10041:7, 10044:28,
10049:7, 10060:31,
10061:14, 10063:6,
10069:36, 10105:45,
10122:39, 10125:45
15 [18] - 10023:28,
10023:35, 10026:5,
10026:14, 10031:19,
10034:31, 10035:17,
10043:18, 10044:17,
10046:5, 10047:10,
10047:43, 10054:20,
10055:4, 10062:2,
10062:17, 10074:6,
10100:43
16 [12] - 10026:31,
10027:18, 10030:43,
10036:46, 10044:38,
10045:23, 10075:33,
10076:5, 10081:16,
10100:44, 10122:35,
10123:22
16th [1] - 10074:28
17 [10] - 10021:21,
10030:47, 10042:9,
10048:13, 10075:33,
10093:45, 10106:45,
10122:23, 10123:25,
10123:28
18 [10] - 10033:9,
10034:20, 10073:8,
10084:39, 10093:10,
10102:43, 10106:13,
10107:32, 10122:2,
10125:28
18-year-old [1] - 10065:23
18/09/2014 [4] - 10073:21,
10080:20, 10089:2,
10097:9
19 [2] - 10021:17, 10033:6
19-1 [2] - 10049:34,
10049:36
19-2 [2] - 10052:7,
10052:9
19-3 [2] - 10073:18,
10073:20
19-4 [2] - 10080:17,
10080:19
19-5 [3] - 10088:47,
10089:2, 10129:32
19-6 [3] - 10097:7,
10097:9, 10104:42
19-7 [1] - 10105:22
19-8 [2] - 10111:29,
10111:31
19-year-old [1] - 10065:22
1967 [1] - 10089:17
1968 [2] - 10080:37,
10105:42
1969 [2] - 10022:46,
10024:19
1970 [1] - 10073:41
1970s [1] - 10032:16
1971 [2] - 10053:29,
10053:32
1972 [2] - 10053:29,
10097:25
1973 [1] - 10024:27
1974 [6] - 10022:47,
10024:28, 10024:31,
10024:36, 10025:2,
10054:15
1975 [2] - 10024:46,
10025:2
1976 [6] - 10025:6,
10025:15, 10025:30,
10032:41, 10032:47,
10074:3
1977 [2] - 10025:30,
10032:47
1978 [4] - 10025:31,
10025:32, 10025:34,
10032:45
1979 [1] - 10032:43
1980 [10] - 10025:37,
10029:3, 10029:7,
10029:16, 10030:13,
10030:15, 10032:43,
10033:2, 10039:11,
10121:28
1980s [1] - 10032:16
1983 [10] - 10028:30,
10029:5, 10030:24,
10030:43, 10030:47,
10032:41, 10040:3,
10109:17, 10109:22,
10110:7
1984 [7] - 10022:47,
10029:5, 10031:16,
10031:21, 10031:36,
10031:39, 10084:10
1987 [1] - 10032:1
1989 [2] - 10022:46,
10031:40
1991 [1] - 10101:38
1992 [1] - 10032:9
1999 [2] - 10031:46,
10093:18
19th [1] - 10022:37
1pm [1] - 10072:11
2
2 [8] - 10026:4, 10027:40,
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10073:15, 10124:35
2.55pm [1] - 10105:8
20 [15] - 10033:29,
10044:12, 10044:21,
10047:2, 10053:29,
10063:43, 10075:34,
10087:13, 10120:14,
10121:10, 10123:9,
10124:7, 10124:24,
10126:6, 10126:17
2000 [1] - 10063:47
2001 [5] - 10032:5,
10069:47, 10085:35,
10095:13, 10102:14
2002 [5] - 10032:14,
10032:22, 10032:30,
10069:47, 10095:20
2003 [6] - 10085:17,
10094:41, 10095:34,
10129:40, 10129:45,
10130:8
2005 [4] - 10064:16,
10064:23, 10109:26,
10109:36
2006 [4] - 10033:4,
10033:26, 10066:8,
10094:16
2007 [6] - 10033:6,
10033:13, 10078:12,
10101:11, 10102:21,
10103:33
2008 [21] - 10023:29,
10033:29, 10033:47,
10034:13, 10034:20,
10034:31, 10035:7,
10035:9, 10035:15,
10035:21, 10035:27,
10066:9, 10078:28,
10078:35, 10087:5,
10095:42, 10096:6,
10109:15, 10110:13,
10113:27, 10130:10
2009 [28] - 10035:32,
10035:40, 10035:45,
10036:3, 10036:7,
10036:21, 10036:26,
10036:31, 10036:33,
10036:38, 10036:46,
10037:3, 10037:5,
10037:32, 10037:44,
10038:5, 10038:33,
10038:41, 10077:19,
10085:47, 10102:28,
10105:47, 10108:13,
10109:45, 10112:29,
10112:31, 10112:32,
10119:47
2010 [17] - 10039:4,
10039:7, 10039:16,
10039:31, 10039:41,
10039:47, 10040:9,
10040:37, 10041:1,
10041:7, 10041:16,
10076:44, 10086:27,
10110:21, 10114:26,
10114:31, 10124:15
2011 [19] - 10041:29,
10041:40, 10042:9,
10042:16, 10042:19,
10042:38, 10043:3,
10043:14, 10043:28,
10043:46, 10044:9,
10078:18, 10109:47,
10122:23, 10123:17,
10124:18, 10124:19,
10128:19, 10128:26
2012 [33] - 10044:12,
10044:14, 10044:21,
10044:23, 10044:28,
10044:34, 10044:38,
10044:44, 10045:7,
10045:16, 10045:22,
10045:23, 10045:28,
10045:34, 10045:37,
10045:42, 10046:4,
10046:5, 10046:26,
10046:30, 10046:34,
10047:3, 10112:26,
10120:14, 10120:39,
10121:10, 10123:9,
10124:7, 10124:19,
10124:36, 10126:6,
10126:10, 10126:23
2013 [14] - 10023:30,
10047:10, 10047:25,
10047:32, 10047:40,
10047:44, 10047:47,
10048:2, 10048:11,
10048:13, 10068:38,
10078:43, 10113:27,
10128:4
2014 [8] - 10021:27,
10051:41, 10052:10,
10053:40, 10073:8,
10105:15, 10111:19,
10130:41
21 [3] - 10025:6,
10039:30, 10069:33
21-year-old [1] - 10065:22
21st [1] - 10115:9
22 [5] - 10021:27,
10035:21, 10039:41,
10041:16, 10045:28
23 [9] - 10035:27,
10036:7, 10036:26,
10086:27, 10110:21,
10123:28, 10124:35,
10124:42, 10130:41
23-year-old [1] - 10065:21
24 [1] - 10025:21
25 [5] - 10040:37,
10044:44, 10045:37,
10080:37, 10123:27
25-year [1] - 10025:32
25-year-old [1] - 10065:21
26 [2] - 10039:4, 10042:38
27 [3] - 10036:47,
10037:44, 10116:15
28 [2] - 10030:24, 10045:7
29 [4] - 10025:34,
10036:18, 10036:21,
10039:7
2pm [1] - 10073:1
3
3 [14] - 10027:37,
10027:40, 10038:18,
10038:41, 10041:29,
10043:3, 10047:15,
10066:11, 10080:6,
10083:3, 10100:45,
10111:19, 10123:17,
10123:30
3.10pm [1] - 10111:12
3.55PM [1] - 10130:40
30 [1] - 10039:47
30s [1] - 10028:3
31 [1] - 10078:12
32 [4] - 10025:16,
10025:29, 10098:9,
10102:46
35 [1] - 10102:43
39 [1] - 10117:18
4
4 [9] - 10024:46, 10037:3,
10043:14, 10043:28,
10043:46, 10083:3,
10088:42, 10100:45,
10112:43
4.4 [1] - 10045:11
40 [2] - 10104:39,
10104:41
42 [1] - 10097:26
43 [2] - 10129:32, 10130:8
44 [2] - 10111:35, 10112:5
45 [1] - 10073:42
46 [2] - 10089:17,
10105:42
5
68 [1] - 10052:25
69 [1] - 10052:20
6am [1] - 10059:45
6D(3 [1] - 10022:30
7
7 [8] - 10025:15,
10027:38, 10030:36,
10032:44, 10032:47,
10035:7, 10105:15,
10111:10
7/10/2014 [1] - 10105:23
70" [1] - 10039:38
8
8 [9] - 10027:38,
10030:12, 10032:5,
10035:45, 10036:38,
10074:33, 10081:13,
10097:33, 10105:42
8-year-old [1] - 10107:40
83 [1] - 10119:34
84 [1] - 10119:34
9
9 [12] - 10031:16, 10032:9,
10032:44, 10035:32,
10042:16, 10047:40,
10065:11, 10074:6,
10074:16, 10098:5,
10115:44, 10119:46
91 [3] - 10119:22,
10119:25, 10128:16
96 [1] - 10021:18
9am [1] - 10077:21
A
5 [13] - 10026:8, 10027:42,
10029:7, 10029:16,
10030:15, 10032:41,
10042:19, 10044:9,
10045:16, 10045:42,
10081:13, 10097:1,
10107:41
5-year-old [1] - 10108:7
50 [1] - 10074:37
52 [1] - 10035:35
59 [1] - 10118:13
6
6 [15] - 10026:31,
10027:18, 10032:47,
10040:9, 10044:23,
10048:10, 10073:42,
10073:44, 10074:4,
10074:46, 10075:22,
10080:45, 10104:34,
10109:44, 10113:36
67 [2] - 10119:37,
10119:45
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aback [1] - 10040:4
ability [1] - 10103:7
able [17] - 10042:11,
10046:16, 10046:22,
10088:1, 10093:21,
10093:38, 10104:3,
10110:14, 10110:27,
10112:17, 10122:18,
10122:46, 10123:46,
10126:36, 10126:41,
10127:23, 10130:31
Aboriginal [17] 10022:44, 10024:22,
10024:23, 10024:25,
10024:32, 10025:5,
10025:9, 10025:12,
10031:30, 10043:9,
10043:39, 10082:47,
10083:1, 10083:18,
10084:33, 10090:19,
10098:3
absence [1] - 10031:25
absent [1] - 10081:19
absolute [3] - 10091:25,
10107:34, 10108:22
absolutely [2] - 10077:16,
10086:36
Abuse [6] - 10053:25,
10073:33, 10080:31,
10089:11, 10097:16,
10105:36
abuse [98] - 10022:38,
10023:19, 10023:21,
10026:1, 10026:7,
10026:9, 10026:13,
10026:19, 10026:24,
10026:32, 10026:35,
10026:38, 10027:13,
10027:39, 10027:41,
10028:2, 10028:12,
10028:19, 10028:28,
10028:31, 10028:39,
10029:2, 10029:4,
10030:27, 10030:34,
10030:40, 10032:17,
10032:35, 10032:36,
10034:8, 10039:12,
10039:20, 10039:26,
10039:27, 10040:34,
10041:34, 10048:38,
10050:26, 10050:43,
10051:3, 10051:6,
10051:11, 10051:15,
10051:20, 10055:3,
10055:43, 10063:3,
10064:5, 10064:9,
10064:10, 10064:17,
10064:34, 10066:3,
10066:32, 10066:39,
10067:22, 10068:8,
10069:18, 10070:3,
10070:15, 10070:21,
10070:44, 10071:2,
10071:18, 10071:19,
10074:34, 10083:6,
10086:3, 10088:12,
10088:23, 10093:34,
10094:26, 10094:30,
10096:17, 10099:4,
10100:16, 10100:32,
10100:40, 10100:47,
10101:2, 10101:10,
10102:15, 10102:22,
10102:24, 10102:29,
10102:31, 10103:7,
10103:21, 10103:34,
10103:35, 10103:37,
10103:46, 10106:38,
10107:2, 10107:13,
10108:29, 10109:22
ABUSE [1] - 10021:13
abused [25] - 10026:41,
10027:21, 10034:3,
10041:4, 10055:2,
10068:45, 10069:34,
10069:45, 10070:35,
10074:21, 10074:24,
10075:46, 10077:46,
10077:47, 10079:18,
10083:24, 10083:32,
10085:37, 10093:6,
10094:38, 10100:36,
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10106:34, 10108:19
abusing [3] - 10074:30,
10078:31, 10100:42
abusive [5] - 10071:15,
10077:17, 10083:17,
10094:15, 10101:3
accept [9] - 10037:40,
10043:19, 10044:42,
10044:45, 10045:17,
10069:6, 10086:5,
10094:29, 10118:46
acceptable [1] - 10080:14
accepted [4] - 10039:9,
10044:39, 10108:28,
10126:3
accepting [1] - 10045:40
access [3] - 10034:42,
10070:10, 10113:3
accident [2] - 10053:40,
10069:31
accommodated [1] 10025:25
accommodation [1] 10087:41
accordance [2] - 10024:2,
10024:42
accords [1] - 10127:14
account [4] - 10040:17,
10051:18, 10062:23,
10062:27
accountable [2] 10088:30, 10104:13
accurate [2] - 10096:16,
10112:5
accurately [6] - 10053:22,
10073:31, 10080:28,
10089:8, 10097:13,
10105:34
achieve [1] - 10128:45
achieved [1] - 10104:17
acknowledge [2] 10050:24, 10088:13
acknowledged [2] 10044:5, 10088:12
acknowledges [3] 10050:16, 10050:28,
10051:1
acknowledgment [6] 10041:45, 10043:11,
10043:36, 10128:34,
10128:41, 10129:8
act [2] - 10034:7,
10114:36
Act [9] - 10022:30,
10024:43, 10025:16,
10025:35, 10035:36,
10035:37, 10119:32,
10120:12, 10125:11
acted [1] - 10128:24
acting [9] - 10030:44,
10031:22, 10034:10,
10045:8, 10114:42,
10116:3, 10116:22,
10118:19, 10128:39
action [17] - 10028:32,
10029:38, 10030:19,
10031:13, 10031:26,
10031:27, 10031:32,
10034:26, 10034:44,
10037:16, 10039:10,
10040:6, 10066:21,
10083:13, 10107:4,
10109:19, 10110:8
actions [3] - 10034:5,
10035:19, 10035:46
active [1] - 10048:17
acts [1] - 10113:6
add [1] - 10040:45
addiction [1] - 10107:29
addition [1] - 10024:47
additional [1] - 10129:11
address [3] - 10025:41,
10028:44, 10031:42
addressed [1] - 10117:46
adequate [2] - 10025:22,
10025:27
adequately [1] - 10047:29
adjourn [2] - 10072:31,
10130:27
adjourned [1] - 10127:10
ADJOURNED [1] 10130:40
adjournment [3] 10049:24, 10072:19,
10072:29
ADJOURNMENT [2] 10049:28, 10072:41
administering [1] 10062:12
administrative [1] 10049:47
admission [1] - 10039:23
admissions [1] - 10035:30
admit [2] - 10035:25,
10039:18
admitted [3] - 10023:11,
10039:28, 10085:17
adopt [3] - 10030:20,
10042:12, 10118:1
adopted [1] - 10022:47
adult [5] - 10077:33,
10084:5, 10087:17,
10101:9, 10108:36
adulthood [1] - 10071:15
adults [6] - 10026:47,
10057:38, 10075:19,
10077:9, 10094:8,
10100:24
advance [1] - 10108:32
advantage [1] - 10094:9
adverse [1] - 10119:20
advice [17] - 10044:37,
10044:41, 10044:44,
10045:32, 10045:38,
10046:39, 10046:45,
10047:11, 10047:12,
10047:25, 10047:41,
10048:3, 10096:28,
10096:29, 10104:8,
10130:1
advised [7] - 10030:4,
10040:38, 10042:30,
10046:36, 10047:12,
10103:43, 10104:2
advisers [1] - 10038:46
advising [1] - 10104:23
Affairs [2] - 10024:22,
10025:38
affect [1] - 10119:1
affected [4] - 10069:31,
10070:3, 10070:11,
10103:7
affecting [1] - 10078:32
affidavit [22] - 10042:8,
10042:10, 10121:24,
10122:10, 10122:12,
10122:15, 10122:23,
10123:3, 10123:8,
10123:9, 10123:17,
10123:28, 10123:41,
10124:3, 10124:10,
10124:16, 10124:23,
10124:30, 10124:35,
10124:40, 10124:41,
10124:47
affidavits [11] - 10046:16,
10120:37, 10120:42,
10120:43, 10121:41,
10122:3, 10123:21,
10124:44, 10125:4,
10125:7, 10126:32
affirm [1] - 10049:44
affirmed [2] - 10051:28,
10111:12
afraid [3] - 10026:34,
10052:45, 10092:23
afternoon [1] - 10081:45
afterwards [4] - 10075:30,
10091:28, 10106:30,
10109:11
age [13] - 10025:25,
10026:3, 10026:5,
10027:37, 10027:38,
10028:24, 10040:29,
10054:20, 10055:4,
10080:45, 10080:46,
10089:18, 10097:39
aged [10] - 10030:36,
10032:9, 10032:41,
10032:44, 10032:45,
10032:47, 10033:2,
10073:42, 10081:12,
10085:14
agency [2] - 10057:41,
10114:33
ages [2] - 10026:31,
10027:18
agitated [1] - 10079:7
ago [8] - 10070:8,
10076:36, 10085:29,
10087:19, 10106:32,
10107:22, 10124:7,
10125:42
agoraphobia [1] 10065:26
agree [5] - 10038:24,
10043:16, 10043:29,
10080:12, 10086:11
agreed [5] - 10023:41,
10023:46, 10037:13,
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10069:10, 10128:4
agreement [4] - 10052:29,
10052:35, 10052:40,
10069:14
ahead [1] - 10109:29
AIC [1] - 10072:14
Aid [4] - 10106:40,
10109:36, 10114:45,
10114:47
aid [1] - 10115:11
AIE [7] - 10032:34,
10032:43, 10033:15,
10033:19, 10034:46,
10075:24, 10081:38
AIE] [1] - 10098:23
AIF [1] - 10081:39
AIF] [1] - 10035:1
AIG [2] - 10034:46,
10098:23
AIG] [2] - 10081:38,
10099:34
AIH [17] - 10028:9,
10028:19, 10032:35,
10033:1, 10033:15,
10033:18, 10034:47,
10041:33, 10041:36,
10049:9, 10081:38,
10088:40, 10088:43,
10089:2, 10096:40,
10129:32, 10129:36
AIH] [3] - 10041:31,
10088:45, 10089:15
AII [15] - 10032:34,
10032:45, 10033:13,
10034:46, 10039:17,
10044:35, 10062:6,
10062:8, 10063:9,
10063:16, 10068:40,
10118:14, 10118:18,
10118:28, 10119:9
AII] [2] - 10039:27,
10090:39
AII]'s [4] - 10044:42,
10044:45, 10045:17,
10118:41
AIJ] [1] - 10053:3
AIL [34] - 10033:47,
10034:10, 10034:34,
10035:9, 10035:41,
10048:20, 10053:37,
10053:38, 10053:43,
10054:7, 10054:16,
10055:8, 10058:7,
10058:8, 10058:10,
10058:13, 10058:18,
10058:20, 10058:23,
10058:25, 10058:28,
10058:37, 10058:42,
10058:43, 10058:46,
10059:6, 10059:17,
10059:20, 10063:32,
10064:12, 10069:32,
10069:41, 10081:39,
10099:34
AIL] [3] - 10056:17,
10058:36, 10070:22
AIL]'s [1] - 10034:22
AIN [1] - 10034:47
AIO [5] - 10032:35,
10032:46, 10033:8,
10034:46, 10039:26
AIO] [4] - 10033:7,
10039:24, 10098:18,
10098:21
AIQ [8] - 10027:36,
10027:45, 10028:6,
10034:47, 10049:9,
10096:45, 10097:9,
10104:42
AIQ] [2] - 10097:25,
10104:29
AIS [3] - 10034:47,
10063:32, 10063:37
AIS] [1] - 10081:40
AIT [20] - 10022:47,
10054:35, 10054:37,
10054:42, 10056:34,
10081:20, 10081:25,
10082:17, 10082:27,
10082:30, 10082:36,
10084:27, 10090:14,
10090:15, 10091:46,
10092:3, 10098:14,
10098:15, 10099:13,
10101:5
AIT] [1] - 10098:17
AIT]'s [2] - 10059:27,
10082:19
alcohol [21] - 10028:40,
10054:43, 10059:1,
10069:25, 10076:8,
10076:18, 10076:39,
10077:35, 10078:39,
10079:4, 10085:11,
10085:15, 10085:18,
10085:22, 10093:28,
10093:34, 10102:42,
10103:11, 10103:30,
10107:17, 10107:19
alcoholic [5] - 10027:20,
10058:47, 10070:5,
10081:10, 10102:9
alcoholics [1] - 10057:20
alight [1] - 10070:29
allegation [2] - 10032:17,
10039:18
allegations [22] 10022:38, 10022:41,
10029:13, 10029:22,
10030:26, 10030:29,
10030:40, 10030:47,
10031:7, 10031:24,
10033:4, 10033:7,
10034:2, 10034:33,
10034:34, 10035:25,
10039:25, 10039:27,
10040:11, 10042:35,
10118:37, 10118:43
allegations" [1] 10041:14
allege [2] - 10041:24,
10043:43
alleged [3] - 10030:33,
10040:28, 10106:6
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Allison [8] - 10022:18,
10034:18, 10039:4,
10045:22, 10046:1,
10047:32, 10048:23,
10049:11
allocate [1] - 10114:23
allocated [3] - 10034:15,
10035:3, 10075:3
allow [2] - 10109:42,
10127:6
allowance [1] - 10062:19
allowed [6] - 10048:6,
10052:30, 10059:1,
10065:12, 10069:15
almost [2] - 10028:29,
10070:5
alone [2] - 10037:12,
10068:9
alongside [1] - 10059:47
alternative [4] - 10035:37,
10038:26, 10047:26,
10072:18
AM [2] - 10021:33,
10021:34
amalgamate [1] 10035:19
Amanda [1] - 10032:6
AMELIA [1] - 10080:19
Amelia [14] - 10027:17,
10027:32, 10029:19,
10031:17, 10034:47,
10039:14, 10049:8,
10080:6, 10080:35,
10088:44, 10090:38,
10116:40, 10119:8,
10119:12
amount [8] - 10037:12,
10041:46, 10048:41,
10049:4, 10069:10,
10104:24, 10113:23,
10114:40
amphetamines [1] 10102:44
AND [1] - 10111:32
Andrew [1] - 10049:14
Angela [1] - 10124:41
anger [1] - 10088:22
angry [6] - 10066:35,
10067:34, 10093:2,
10093:3, 10101:2,
10108:47
ankles [1] - 10056:7
Anne [3] - 10030:45,
10075:27, 10075:30
annexed [1] - 10050:1
annexures [2] - 10111:27,
10122:36
ANNEXURES [1] 10111:32
answer [3] - 10087:45,
10110:27, 10119:1
answered [1] - 10029:32
answering [1] - 10118:47
answers [1] - 10079:22
anticipated [14] 10023:16, 10023:43,
10025:41, 10025:45,
10026:2, 10026:30,
10027:17, 10027:36,
10028:9, 10028:23,
10030:8, 10039:3,
10048:23, 10049:7
antidepressants [1] 10071:10
anxiety [4] - 10077:12,
10077:35, 10103:22,
10108:40
anxious [2] - 10109:10,
10118:34
anyway [3] - 10057:1,
10057:10, 10064:27
apartment [2] - 10063:14,
10063:43
apologising [1] - 10042:3
apology [16] - 10023:43,
10041:47, 10042:27,
10042:31, 10042:36,
10048:14, 10068:41,
10068:43, 10078:44,
10078:46, 10079:24,
10079:26, 10088:10,
10088:15, 10110:30,
10128:34
Appeal [4] - 10044:19,
10046:47, 10047:47,
10078:19
appeal [6] - 10046:47,
10047:2, 10054:16,
10068:23, 10127:42,
10127:47
appealing [1] - 10054:6
appeals [1] - 10078:17
appear [6] - 10022:1,
10022:6, 10022:12,
10022:21, 10030:16,
10041:41
appearances [1] 10022:4
appeared [4] - 10029:33,
10030:15, 10030:36,
10060:11
appearing [1] - 10039:33
apple [1] - 10062:34
application [19] 10044:16, 10044:20,
10046:47, 10066:10,
10102:21, 10109:37,
10109:38, 10109:40,
10109:42, 10109:43,
10119:33, 10120:26,
10120:29, 10121:8,
10121:13, 10121:15,
10125:45, 10127:42,
10128:3
application" [1] - 10044:7
applications [3] 10023:30, 10044:7,
10044:47
applied [2] - 10024:27,
10048:37
apply [2] - 10066:2,
10109:41
appointed [1] - 10048:14
appointments [2] 10062:14, 10110:17
appreciate [3] - 10038:45,
10094:2, 10109:17
appreciated [1] 10078:36
apprehended [1] 10085:1
apprehensive [1] 10030:13
approach [4] - 10047:37,
10129:15, 10129:27,
10129:28
approached [5] 10028:16, 10077:26,
10099:9, 10106:22,
10128:26
approaches [1] 10051:14
approaching [2] 10024:23, 10091:20
appropriate [4] 10031:36, 10036:41,
10044:3, 10045:30
appropriateness [1] 10050:42
approval [3] - 10025:17,
10025:23, 10031:38
approved [1] - 10024:46
April [5] - 10031:16,
10031:21, 10033:6,
10033:13, 10047:10
Arblaster [7] - 10036:19,
10040:37, 10041:8,
10042:39, 10043:15,
10044:14, 10044:43
area [1] - 10077:22
area" [1] - 10031:30
areas [1] - 10115:13
argument [1] - 10060:35
arise [1] - 10072:7
arm [7] - 10026:37,
10059:47, 10060:1,
10060:3, 10060:4,
10074:32
arms [1] - 10059:38
arose [1] - 10046:12
arrange [1] - 10111:23
arranged [2] - 10047:42,
10117:40
arrangement [2] 10060:23, 10113:31
arrangements [1] 10040:4
arrived [9] - 10044:4,
10059:22, 10063:33,
10069:41, 10069:43,
10081:12, 10082:27,
10082:38, 10092:14
arriving [2] - 10028:29,
10106:20
ascertain [1] - 10029:45
ashamed [2] - 10067:32,
10070:4
aside [2] - 10046:23,
10046:31
asleep [1] - 10059:47
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aspect [4] - 10041:13,
10111:38, 10113:40,
10129:35
aspects [1] - 10026:28
assault [20] - 10027:46,
10032:31, 10032:40,
10032:42, 10032:44,
10032:46, 10033:1,
10050:25, 10051:17,
10055:47, 10066:12,
10074:45, 10075:23,
10077:22, 10094:42,
10108:16, 10110:1,
10115:14, 10115:27
assaulted [9] - 10032:11,
10074:36, 10074:39,
10076:29, 10076:46,
10095:18, 10100:8,
10108:13, 10108:33
assaults [7] - 10026:44,
10031:47, 10042:4,
10074:38, 10075:16,
10095:37, 10100:21
asserted [1] - 10036:8
assess [2] - 10040:44,
10048:27
assessment [4] - 10048:4,
10048:5, 10115:20,
10122:7
assessments [1] 10079:3
Assistance [1] - 10066:4
assistance [3] - 10059:26,
10115:32, 10130:7
assistant [1] - 10034:13
assisted [1] - 10115:45
Assisting [1] - 10021:39
assisting [2] - 10022:2,
10024:30
associated [3] - 10051:10,
10128:23, 10129:18
assume [1] - 10104:39
assumed [1] - 10045:47
asthma [1] - 10108:41
AT [2] - 10130:40,
10130:41
at-risk [1] - 10031:9
attached [1] - 10122:27
attachments [1] 10122:35
attacks [3] - 10077:12,
10082:14, 10108:40
attempt [3] - 10043:21,
10043:32, 10117:42
attempted [1] - 10077:22
attempting [1] - 10036:8
attempts [2] - 10036:36,
10093:44
attend [6] - 10028:18,
10029:9, 10047:7,
10079:11, 10086:17,
10109:33
attendances [1] 10117:39
attended [15] - 10024:39,
10030:14, 10040:36,
10068:38, 10074:15,
10076:18, 10081:43,
10084:16, 10091:28,
10092:38, 10093:34,
10101:32, 10107:29,
10110:17, 10116:22
attending [2] - 10116:17,
10116:30
attention [1] - 10029:5
attitude [2] - 10036:35,
10127:27
August [18] - 10035:7,
10040:37, 10042:19,
10043:3, 10043:14,
10043:28, 10043:46,
10044:9, 10045:22,
10045:23, 10045:28,
10048:2, 10053:29,
10085:47, 10086:27,
10110:21, 10123:17,
10123:30
auntie [2] - 10091:35,
10106:17
Auntie [1] - 10058:16
auntie's [2] - 10089:37,
10090:1
aunties [1] - 10090:40
author [1] - 10032:23
authored [1] - 10121:27
authority [5] - 10077:7,
10077:9, 10077:10,
10107:14, 10108:37
autonomy [1] - 10114:41
available [8] - 10024:14,
10031:10, 10112:35,
10120:44, 10121:1,
10121:23, 10122:7,
10125:21
avenues [1] - 10024:14
average [1] - 10026:41
avoid [5] - 10036:8,
10062:40, 10074:17,
10086:39, 10107:20
avoiding [1] - 10103:11
await [2] - 10029:36,
10038:31
award [6] - 10025:37,
10049:4, 10078:18,
10078:20, 10078:44,
10079:28
awarded [7] - 10048:41,
10048:46, 10066:11,
10076:2, 10078:11,
10102:28, 10104:24
aware [12] - 10028:45,
10029:2, 10039:10,
10054:5, 10074:1,
10082:8, 10085:24,
10097:32, 10104:7,
10116:45, 10121:22,
10129:37
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baby [2] - 10070:24,
10075:24
background [1] - 10086:4
backhanded [1] -
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10060:36
bad [7] - 10063:3,
10067:34, 10070:15,
10070:28, 10078:23,
10085:31, 10107:25
badly [2] - 10075:18,
10079:16
bags [1] - 10062:11
banana [1] - 10077:25
bang [1] - 10109:1
banged [2] - 10060:43,
10063:43
bank [1] - 10062:29
Bar [1] - 10080:12
bare [1] - 10098:29
barely [1] - 10093:25
barrister [5] - 10036:19,
10042:39, 10049:13,
10068:39, 10069:4
barristers [4] - 10067:1,
10067:18, 10069:2,
10071:6
based [4] - 10033:23,
10039:12, 10113:32,
10114:42
bash [2] - 10102:10,
10108:11
bashed [2] - 10058:44,
10108:1
basic [1] - 10038:47
basis [21] - 10037:10,
10037:34, 10044:30,
10044:35, 10047:21,
10048:16, 10048:29,
10057:12, 10071:33,
10079:18, 10083:32,
10085:12, 10085:25,
10088:45, 10108:46,
10116:8, 10116:9,
10118:22, 10118:36,
10120:29, 10125:14
bath [3] - 10056:17,
10056:20, 10064:46
bathroom [9] - 10056:5,
10056:10, 10056:18,
10060:37, 10060:38,
10060:47, 10061:11,
10091:6, 10103:2
bathtub [1] - 10061:10
battle [2] - 10067:8,
10069:11
bear [2] - 10044:36,
10048:11
beat [3] - 10083:25,
10106:34, 10106:36
beaten [5] - 10026:46,
10027:10, 10075:3,
10075:4, 10083:37
beating [2] - 10055:36,
10056:13
beatings [2] - 10075:6,
10085:3
became [5] - 10028:45,
10039:10, 10103:21,
10108:1, 10125:14
become [3] - 10062:18,
10102:18, 10102:34
bed [19] - 10026:11,
10026:36, 10028:14,
10030:36, 10055:39,
10056:23, 10056:28,
10059:33, 10074:26,
10074:28, 10079:5,
10091:9, 10091:13,
10091:16, 10092:20,
10099:14, 10106:21,
10106:23, 10106:25
bedroom [12] - 10029:18,
10029:25, 10056:4,
10056:9, 10056:24,
10059:35, 10059:46,
10061:11, 10090:31,
10091:14, 10099:12,
10099:37
bedrooms [1] - 10081:36
beds [6] - 10029:24,
10081:32, 10081:33,
10090:45, 10090:46,
10098:26
bedside [1] - 10059:36
beer [1] - 10102:46
began [4] - 10024:23,
10055:36, 10059:24,
10077:41
begging [1] - 10058:25
behalf [12] - 10034:22,
10034:32, 10036:27,
10039:16, 10048:15,
10086:26, 10109:37,
10120:19, 10121:8,
10122:5, 10126:39,
10128:23
behaviour [1] - 10071:32
behind [16] - 10053:2,
10059:6, 10059:19,
10060:16, 10060:37,
10060:47, 10063:33,
10073:15, 10079:30,
10080:6, 10082:20,
10097:1, 10101:15,
10104:34, 10111:10,
10123:22
belief [7] - 10029:33,
10053:26, 10073:35,
10080:33, 10089:13,
10097:18, 10105:38
BELINDA [2] - 10073:1,
10073:20
Belinda [2] - 10073:6,
10073:41
belittle [1] - 10068:3
Bell [2] - 10034:10,
10034:21
belong [1] - 10057:29
belonged [1] - 10057:19
belt [4] - 10026:10,
10054:27, 10055:36,
10090:47
beneath [1] - 10069:28
benefits [1] - 10102:4
Benish [1] - 10045:47
Bert [136] - 10022:45,
10032:11, 10054:8,
10054:9, 10054:17,
10054:21, 10054:34,
10054:45, 10055:2,
10055:11, 10055:12,
10055:15, 10055:18,
10055:26, 10055:44,
10056:4, 10056:5,
10056:10, 10056:18,
10056:23, 10056:44,
10057:8, 10057:14,
10057:17, 10057:19,
10057:25, 10057:34,
10057:42, 10058:1,
10058:8, 10058:9,
10058:12, 10058:22,
10058:28, 10058:35,
10058:42, 10058:44,
10058:45, 10059:3,
10059:7, 10059:13,
10059:17, 10059:20,
10059:22, 10059:32,
10059:36, 10059:41,
10059:42, 10059:45,
10060:2, 10060:11,
10060:16, 10060:17,
10060:18, 10060:22,
10060:23, 10060:25,
10060:39, 10060:40,
10060:46, 10061:1,
10061:4, 10061:12,
10061:15, 10061:17,
10061:25, 10061:29,
10061:30, 10061:34,
10061:38, 10061:40,
10061:43, 10061:44,
10062:8, 10062:20,
10062:22, 10062:24,
10062:27, 10062:31,
10062:36, 10063:6,
10063:18, 10063:27,
10063:39, 10063:44,
10064:9, 10064:11,
10064:12, 10064:20,
10064:22, 10064:25,
10064:38, 10065:41,
10066:5, 10070:36,
10074:8, 10074:11,
10074:21, 10075:10,
10075:11, 10075:16,
10075:30, 10076:2,
10079:15, 10081:18,
10081:19, 10081:23,
10081:44, 10083:10,
10083:25, 10083:29,
10083:35, 10084:19,
10084:24, 10084:26,
10084:33, 10084:34,
10088:26, 10090:9,
10090:12, 10090:16,
10090:34, 10091:46,
10092:3, 10092:32,
10098:8, 10098:10,
10098:16, 10106:15,
10106:22, 10108:33,
10109:25, 10109:29,
10109:31
Bert's [7] - 10056:45,
10059:2, 10059:7,
10061:28, 10063:34,
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10075:15, 10090:11
beside [2] - 10058:12,
10060:1
best [12] - 10040:38,
10040:43, 10053:25,
10054:29, 10073:34,
10073:39, 10074:17,
10080:32, 10089:12,
10097:17, 10097:22,
10105:37
bet [2] - 10040:38,
10040:43
Bethcar [223] - 10022:39,
10022:44, 10023:1,
10023:4, 10023:10,
10023:12, 10023:25,
10023:26, 10023:27,
10023:29, 10023:31,
10023:36, 10024:6,
10024:18, 10024:37,
10024:38, 10024:40,
10025:9, 10025:16,
10025:21, 10025:36,
10025:42, 10025:47,
10026:4, 10026:32,
10026:36, 10026:45,
10027:4, 10027:7,
10027:9, 10027:19,
10027:37, 10028:11,
10028:25, 10028:29,
10028:46, 10029:3,
10029:4, 10029:11,
10029:14, 10029:29,
10029:31, 10029:45,
10030:2, 10030:5,
10030:9, 10030:22,
10030:26, 10030:27,
10030:46, 10031:3,
10031:8, 10031:18,
10031:35, 10031:36,
10031:39, 10031:44,
10032:1, 10032:8,
10032:18, 10033:47,
10034:3, 10034:8,
10034:33, 10037:21,
10039:11, 10039:19,
10040:4, 10040:6,
10040:7, 10040:33,
10043:12, 10043:38,
10048:39, 10050:26,
10050:31, 10051:9,
10051:11, 10054:8,
10054:12, 10054:17,
10054:20, 10054:23,
10054:29, 10054:44,
10054:46, 10057:42,
10062:3, 10062:7,
10064:3, 10064:42,
10065:10, 10065:15,
10066:4, 10068:26,
10069:23, 10069:33,
10069:34, 10069:41,
10069:43, 10074:2,
10074:4, 10074:8,
10074:15, 10074:22,
10074:27, 10074:46,
10075:23, 10075:30,
10075:37, 10075:44,
10076:3, 10076:5,
10076:25, 10076:38,
10077:36, 10077:40,
10078:37, 10079:14,
10079:23, 10081:2,
10081:5, 10081:9,
10081:12, 10081:16,
10081:18, 10081:20,
10081:22, 10082:9,
10082:15, 10082:39,
10083:7, 10083:20,
10083:23, 10083:41,
10083:45, 10084:4,
10084:10, 10085:10,
10085:38, 10086:5,
10086:16, 10086:22,
10086:25, 10086:31,
10086:37, 10086:40,
10086:44, 10087:4,
10087:7, 10087:25,
10087:47, 10090:4,
10090:7, 10090:9,
10090:11, 10090:20,
10090:25, 10090:30,
10090:43, 10091:22,
10091:32, 10091:46,
10092:14, 10092:17,
10092:26, 10092:33,
10092:40, 10093:28,
10093:42, 10094:27,
10095:9, 10095:11,
10095:18, 10095:32,
10095:45, 10096:8,
10096:10, 10097:37,
10097:40, 10097:41,
10097:44, 10098:2,
10098:4, 10098:10,
10098:11, 10098:25,
10098:47, 10099:33,
10100:32, 10100:37,
10100:39, 10100:42,
10100:43, 10101:22,
10101:29, 10102:23,
10103:47, 10104:14,
10106:12, 10106:15,
10106:20, 10106:39,
10106:41, 10106:45,
10107:17, 10107:20,
10108:20, 10108:22,
10108:47, 10109:1,
10109:7, 10109:14,
10109:18, 10109:45,
10110:11, 10110:16,
10113:7, 10113:37,
10121:31, 10125:33,
10129:38, 10129:44
betrayed [1] - 10058:36
better [8] - 10051:15,
10051:19, 10054:12,
10055:18, 10101:16,
10101:21, 10103:38,
10110:39
between [29] - 10022:46,
10023:29, 10026:31,
10027:18, 10029:15,
10029:24, 10030:9,
10031:29, 10032:7,
10032:41, 10032:43,
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10032:47, 10033:2,
10036:18, 10038:17,
10040:32, 10041:2,
10041:42, 10042:21,
10067:41, 10078:37,
10081:13, 10100:36,
10109:13, 10128:27
Bible [2] - 10028:18,
10057:12
bible [3] - 10091:28,
10093:4, 10099:1
Bidura [1] - 10054:4
big [14] - 10042:33,
10055:28, 10055:29,
10066:47, 10070:39,
10081:22, 10081:27,
10081:31, 10082:28,
10082:32, 10090:13,
10098:21, 10106:28,
10116:33
Biles [32] - 10026:2,
10026:7, 10026:23,
10032:36, 10033:22,
10033:35, 10034:1,
10034:11, 10034:46,
10035:9, 10035:10,
10042:42, 10042:47,
10043:6, 10044:11,
10044:47, 10045:34,
10045:44, 10048:19,
10049:8, 10051:24,
10051:33, 10051:39,
10052:12, 10053:28,
10053:37, 10071:35,
10071:36, 10071:39,
10081:40, 10099:33,
10126:16
BILES [3] - 10051:28,
10052:9, 10069:30
Biles' [5] - 10033:31,
10034:24, 10044:29,
10045:39, 10053:6
billed [2] - 10033:19,
10113:33
bills [1] - 10065:29
binge [1] - 10076:20
biological [2] - 10057:22,
10058:43
birth [6] - 10053:30,
10053:32, 10085:10,
10097:28, 10101:44,
10107:33
birthday [1] - 10074:28
bit [1] - 10056:22
bitey [2] - 10055:28,
10055:29
bits [1] - 10052:20
blades [1] - 10065:17
blame [1] - 10094:26
blamed [2] - 10070:21,
10093:41
blaming [1] - 10070:26
blanket [3] - 10055:16,
10055:18, 10055:27
bled [1] - 10074:38
bleed [2] - 10027:46,
10099:47
bleeding [6] - 10026:44,
10027:43, 10062:43,
10063:2, 10099:28,
10100:22
block [1] - 10103:20
blocked [1] - 10102:33
blocking [1] - 10102:40
blood [2] - 10054:36,
10100:16
blue [1] - 10062:45
blur [1] - 10108:23
board [1] - 10025:24
body [3] - 10075:8,
10077:42, 10106:26
boiling [1] - 10075:17
bolder [1] - 10057:8
bond [1] - 10063:14
Boney [1] - 10084:13
bono [1] - 10116:10
boobs [2] - 10091:15,
10091:17
born [9] - 10053:28,
10053:29, 10053:34,
10073:41, 10080:37,
10089:17, 10097:25,
10097:29, 10105:42
bottle [1] - 10093:7
bottled [1] - 10102:33
bottles [1] - 10102:46
bought [1] - 10054:24
Bourke [16] - 10028:31,
10029:42, 10030:25,
10032:7, 10064:32,
10092:36, 10092:38,
10105:42, 10105:47,
10106:6, 10106:8,
10106:11, 10107:1,
10107:3, 10110:22,
10114:27
Bourke/Brewarrina [1] 10066:6
box [6] - 10051:25,
10067:44, 10078:3,
10080:10, 10097:4,
10105:26
boy [2] - 10070:45,
10071:3
boyfriend [1] - 10094:21
boyfriends [1] - 10068:2
boys [5] - 10040:5,
10060:16, 10069:45,
10070:10, 10071:1
boys' [2] - 10060:37,
10090:45
branch [2] - 10032:7,
10075:31
branches [4] - 10065:16,
10075:6, 10083:27,
10098:29
brave [1] - 10071:7
bravery [1] - 10050:16
breach [1] - 10085:1
break [3] - 10026:38,
10074:33, 10086:29
breaking [1] - 10074:32
breast [2] - 10027:28,
10082:42
breasts [8] - 10028:15,
10029:19, 10031:2,
10040:23, 10040:25,
10061:4, 10106:26
breasts" [1] - 10040:14
Brewarrina [64] 10022:40, 10022:45,
10024:20, 10024:21,
10025:10, 10025:32,
10029:8, 10029:9,
10029:15, 10029:41,
10029:44, 10030:1,
10030:32, 10030:46,
10031:37, 10032:16,
10040:2, 10053:34,
10053:46, 10054:33,
10054:46, 10056:44,
10057:38, 10058:1,
10058:6, 10058:18,
10058:43, 10059:2,
10059:3, 10059:22,
10059:28, 10063:31,
10064:43, 10065:11,
10074:15, 10076:7,
10076:47, 10081:3,
10081:6, 10081:43,
10084:27, 10084:31,
10087:14, 10089:18,
10089:23, 10089:24,
10090:2, 10090:5,
10092:35, 10092:39,
10092:45, 10093:15,
10093:22, 10094:34,
10095:21, 10095:22,
10097:27, 10097:38,
10098:5, 10098:42,
10102:12, 10106:12,
10106:40, 10114:28
Brewarrina" [1] 10029:30
brief [2] - 10029:42,
10030:20
briefing [1] - 10047:24
briefly [1] - 10122:12
bring [4] - 10050:34,
10059:32, 10110:14,
10122:33
bringing [2] - 10095:47,
10096:3
Brisbania [1] - 10101:33
broad [1] - 10115:30
broke [2] - 10026:37,
10077:43
broken [1] - 10122:41
brother [24] - 10053:37,
10058:19, 10061:18,
10061:19, 10061:20,
10061:24, 10061:25,
10061:28, 10061:32,
10061:33, 10061:36,
10061:40, 10061:41,
10061:42, 10065:45,
10067:18, 10069:30,
10069:46, 10070:19,
10070:22, 10071:20,
10074:5, 10081:11,
10083:35
.22/10/2014 (96)
brothers [3] - 10053:35,
10089:19, 10108:2
brought [12] - 10022:41,
10023:28, 10023:35,
10026:46, 10029:4,
10033:44, 10034:28,
10034:44, 10068:2,
10079:7, 10092:27,
10097:40
Bruce [2] - 10030:43,
10053:37
bruised [1] - 10059:23
bruises [2] - 10077:25,
10091:3
bruising [2] - 10075:7,
10098:33
budget [1] - 10039:43
buds [1] - 10082:18
built [5] - 10054:41,
10054:42, 10054:44,
10055:7, 10090:19
Bulgun [1] - 10093:19
bundle [13] - 10049:17,
10049:32, 10049:39,
10052:1, 10072:5,
10073:16, 10080:7,
10088:43, 10097:2,
10104:34, 10111:10,
10122:37, 10124:34
BUNDLE [1] - 10049:36
burden [1] - 10066:31
burnt [2] - 10054:40,
10100:29
bus [7] - 10061:16,
10061:17, 10061:22,
10081:5, 10081:7,
10090:21, 10098:45
business [1] - 10094:39
buy [1] - 10083:42
BY [4] - 10051:30,
10073:3, 10105:10,
10111:14
C
calculation [2] - 10113:14,
10113:23
camera [1] - 10049:25
can" [1] - 10092:11
cancer [1] - 10068:28
candy [1] - 10062:34
cannabis [2] - 10076:18,
10102:45
cannot [10] - 10073:45,
10076:19, 10076:25,
10077:8, 10081:29,
10086:46, 10095:40,
10103:8, 10103:14,
10107:3
capacity [5] - 10033:41,
10110:9, 10114:42,
10115:10, 10115:16
Cappie [1] - 10049:14
Cappie-Wood [1] 10049:14
capture [1] - 10115:19
car [12] - 10061:18,
10061:20, 10061:25,
10061:33, 10061:40,
10061:42, 10062:31,
10062:32, 10062:33,
10078:13, 10078:14,
10078:15
cardiac [1] - 10103:28
care [32] - 10023:13,
10024:25, 10024:29,
10024:43, 10050:18,
10050:36, 10053:45,
10054:17, 10058:34,
10064:5, 10068:27,
10070:31, 10077:33,
10084:1, 10085:23,
10087:40, 10093:12,
10093:13, 10093:19,
10094:37, 10095:45,
10097:37, 10101:21,
10103:3, 10103:45,
10103:46, 10104:2,
10107:40, 10107:41,
10108:23, 10108:29,
10114:7
cared [5] - 10054:31,
10070:32, 10080:40,
10098:3, 10107:38
carer [3] - 10062:3,
10062:18, 10089:25
carer's [1] - 10062:19
caring [5] - 10028:42,
10062:5, 10062:9,
10062:15, 10105:2
carrying [1] - 10093:4
Case [1] - 10021:17
case [42] - 10022:37,
10025:1, 10033:35,
10037:20, 10043:30,
10048:47, 10066:5,
10066:47, 10067:38,
10068:12, 10068:17,
10068:18, 10068:31,
10069:19, 10069:25,
10071:2, 10071:3,
10071:4, 10071:13,
10078:43, 10079:22,
10088:25, 10092:23,
10109:25, 10109:28,
10109:33, 10113:6,
10114:1, 10115:23,
10115:39, 10116:2,
10116:21, 10117:40,
10118:37, 10118:41,
10119:4, 10120:9,
10121:38, 10124:26,
10126:7, 10129:4
cases [10] - 10023:18,
10026:1, 10040:44,
10042:6, 10042:20,
10086:18, 10113:21,
10128:8, 10128:25,
10129:3
cash [1] - 10042:27
cashion [1] - 10127:41
Cashion [4] - 10041:40,
10044:14, 10044:43,
10049:12
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categories [1] - 10122:41
category [3] - 10066:11,
10122:43, 10125:31
Catherine [2] - 10051:26,
10052:16
Catsanos [13] - 10037:29,
10038:17, 10041:43,
10047:38, 10115:45,
10116:2, 10116:6,
10117:24, 10117:28,
10117:33, 10125:44,
10126:27, 10126:39
caught [1] - 10061:16
caused [3] - 10099:47,
10100:8, 10102:34
causes [1] - 10086:42
causing [5] - 10027:1,
10027:43, 10027:46,
10075:20, 10108:8
ceased [1] - 10039:4
cent [1] - 10040:45
Central [5] - 10074:15,
10081:43, 10089:23,
10098:42, 10101:34
centre [4] - 10034:40,
10093:19, 10106:10,
10113:1
Centrelink [1] - 10062:26
centres [1] - 10076:19
century [1] - 10115:9
certain [2] - 10100:31,
10100:41
certainly [7] - 10072:28,
10111:23, 10112:41,
10113:27, 10119:43,
10124:19, 10124:22
Certainly [1] - 10112:22
certificate [3] - 10053:30,
10053:32, 10084:19
Chair [1] - 10021:33
CHAIR [71] - 10022:4,
10022:9, 10022:16,
10022:24, 10022:33,
10049:20, 10049:24,
10049:30, 10049:34,
10049:42, 10050:6,
10050:11, 10050:38,
10051:22, 10051:32,
10052:3, 10052:7,
10052:45, 10053:5,
10053:10, 10053:15,
10053:20, 10071:38,
10071:45, 10072:13,
10072:18, 10072:25,
10072:31, 10072:36,
10073:18, 10079:40,
10079:47, 10080:17,
10080:22, 10088:34,
10088:47, 10096:39,
10097:7, 10104:28,
10105:6, 10110:45,
10111:4, 10111:29,
10112:8, 10112:20,
10112:38, 10114:35,
10115:42, 10119:25,
10119:39, 10122:21,
10122:27, 10122:32,
10122:39, 10123:12,
10123:19, 10123:25,
10123:30, 10123:35,
10123:40, 10124:2,
10124:9, 10124:30,
10124:38, 10124:44,
10125:39, 10128:11,
10130:16, 10130:22,
10130:27, 10130:36
chairman [1] - 10025:6
challenge [1] - 10065:28
chance [2] - 10047:13,
10071:14
change [1] - 10091:6
changed [4] - 10068:33,
10111:44, 10125:17,
10125:42
changes [1] - 10068:5
changing [2] - 10062:11,
10081:31
chaos [1] - 10107:34
character [1] - 10033:37
charge [4] - 10025:26,
10033:21, 10045:47,
10062:20
charged [6] - 10032:39,
10075:35, 10078:14,
10085:37, 10088:27,
10095:17
charges [4] - 10029:45,
10033:12, 10064:21,
10095:15
charts [1] - 10062:13
cheaply [1] - 10047:46
check [7] - 10062:23,
10062:24, 10082:11,
10090:26, 10112:10,
10124:25, 10124:28
chequebook [1] 10038:12
chest' [1] - 10067:28
chief [2] - 10123:17,
10123:31
CHILD [1] - 10021:13
Child [9] - 10024:42,
10025:16, 10025:35,
10053:24, 10073:33,
10080:31, 10089:11,
10097:16, 10105:36
child [20] - 10022:38,
10025:3, 10030:33,
10040:20, 10050:43,
10051:15, 10051:17,
10051:19, 10064:17,
10066:37, 10080:41,
10085:11, 10085:14,
10087:18, 10102:17,
10102:35, 10106:7,
10107:32, 10107:33,
10107:39
childcare [1] - 10025:39
childhood [3] - 10071:15,
10086:6, 10086:40
children [65] - 10022:44,
10023:10, 10024:25,
10024:28, 10024:38,
10024:43, 10025:2,
10025:12, 10025:21,
10025:24, 10027:4,
10027:7, 10027:9,
10028:42, 10030:21,
10031:8, 10032:25,
10050:25, 10050:28,
10050:35, 10051:3,
10051:10, 10054:30,
10055:46, 10056:35,
10063:39, 10070:17,
10070:19, 10071:17,
10071:20, 10073:42,
10075:23, 10075:28,
10076:32, 10076:40,
10078:13, 10080:38,
10081:24, 10084:40,
10085:2, 10085:6,
10085:16, 10085:20,
10085:27, 10085:37,
10087:18, 10089:20,
10089:26, 10090:14,
10093:11, 10093:13,
10093:14, 10093:39,
10094:20, 10098:3,
10098:8, 10098:17,
10102:8, 10107:36,
10107:37, 10107:43,
10107:47, 10108:5,
10108:11, 10108:24
children's [6] - 10024:28,
10025:10, 10025:17,
10025:23, 10054:4,
10109:5
Children's [14] - 10022:39,
10025:36, 10028:26,
10029:30, 10051:11,
10053:45, 10054:6,
10054:8, 10074:3,
10081:3, 10090:4,
10097:38, 10106:6,
10106:12
chipping [1] - 10065:8
choice [1] - 10079:17
cholesterol [1] - 10103:28
chopping [2] - 10077:25,
10081:30
chores [5] - 10075:2,
10081:45, 10090:43,
10098:27, 10106:36
Christian [1] - 10076:3
Christianity [1] - 10065:40
Christians [1] - 10065:42
chronology [1] - 10119:36
cigarettes [1] - 10076:39
circle [1] - 10041:12
circumstances [2] 10023:11, 10028:44
city [2] - 10079:11,
10116:33
civil [29] - 10023:28,
10023:35, 10024:3,
10024:6, 10024:9,
10026:25, 10027:14,
10027:33, 10028:5,
10028:34, 10033:44,
10048:25, 10048:40,
10050:33, 10050:42,
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10051:4, 10051:16,
10066:41, 10067:8,
10069:35, 10070:43,
10071:32, 10087:22,
10096:14, 10110:19,
10114:45, 10114:47,
10115:11, 10115:33
CJ [1] - 10031:22
claim [33] - 10026:25,
10027:14, 10027:33,
10034:21, 10034:27,
10034:31, 10034:45,
10035:16, 10035:19,
10035:25, 10035:42,
10041:25, 10066:8,
10066:12, 10066:16,
10066:18, 10066:28,
10078:25, 10078:29,
10078:32, 10078:41,
10087:5, 10095:29,
10095:44, 10095:47,
10096:3, 10096:6,
10104:3, 10110:14,
10125:15, 10127:2,
10127:29, 10129:37
claimants [1] - 10051:2
claimed [1] - 10046:17
claims [14] - 10023:42,
10034:28, 10036:36,
10037:1, 10037:7,
10038:23, 10040:44,
10044:17, 10047:13,
10048:26, 10048:28,
10050:34, 10051:14,
10051:16
clarify [2] - 10036:35,
10112:4
class [3] - 10028:18,
10057:32, 10091:29
clean [3] - 10091:13,
10098:26, 10098:34
cleaning [2] - 10076:36,
10091:6
cleanliness [1] - 10065:33
clearly [3] - 10104:7,
10114:8, 10122:21
clients [7] - 10038:1,
10043:7, 10113:23,
10114:26, 10115:17,
10122:5, 10128:30
climb [2] - 10059:3,
10059:17
close [4] - 10059:40,
10060:44, 10061:34,
10065:39
closed [4] - 10031:40,
10031:44, 10056:24,
10099:22
closest [1] - 10055:14
closure [1] - 10067:28
clothes [4] - 10060:32,
10060:34, 10060:35,
10106:27
clothing [1] - 10103:4
coast [1] - 10094:34
Coast [1] - 10101:34
coaxed [1] - 10099:34
cock [1] - 10031:18
coffee [1] - 10038:15
cold [3] - 10068:43,
10071:25, 10099:16
Colin [69] - 10023:1,
10029:14, 10030:13,
10032:10, 10032:25,
10033:41, 10054:37,
10054:41, 10057:47,
10058:9, 10058:22,
10059:27, 10064:11,
10064:17, 10065:41,
10074:22, 10074:29,
10074:37, 10074:45,
10075:23, 10075:34,
10075:36, 10076:29,
10077:38, 10077:40,
10078:4, 10078:7,
10078:22, 10078:30,
10079:15, 10081:21,
10081:24, 10081:44,
10082:2, 10082:21,
10082:27, 10082:29,
10082:33, 10082:35,
10082:41, 10083:32,
10084:27, 10085:36,
10086:18, 10090:14,
10090:17, 10090:19,
10091:14, 10091:20,
10091:29, 10091:31,
10091:46, 10092:18,
10092:27, 10092:44,
10092:46, 10093:2,
10094:23, 10095:15,
10095:17, 10095:21,
10095:38, 10098:14,
10098:16, 10098:28,
10109:33, 10109:34
Colin's [1] - 10090:20
collapsed [1] - 10076:12
collect [1] - 10086:29
colour [1] - 10062:34
comfort [1] - 10063:10
comfortable [1] 10111:44
comforted [2] - 10040:13,
10040:21
coming [14] - 10026:35,
10056:5, 10056:18,
10064:27, 10071:45,
10074:29, 10076:26,
10079:47, 10080:9,
10082:9, 10082:10,
10090:26, 10103:2,
10116:32
commenced [9] 10023:37, 10033:5,
10034:1, 10034:15,
10035:1, 10043:47,
10048:40, 10103:19,
10117:21
commend [1] - 10050:19
commenting [2] 10040:10, 10041:30
comments [4] - 10037:13,
10040:11, 10111:41,
10111:43
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COMMISSION [2] 10021:12, 10130:40
Commission [22] 10022:2, 10024:7,
10025:46, 10050:40,
10050:44, 10051:13,
10053:24, 10069:17,
10069:22, 10069:26,
10069:38, 10073:32,
10080:30, 10088:32,
10089:10, 10096:37,
10097:15, 10104:26,
10105:35, 10120:23,
10121:46, 10128:22
Commission's [4] 10022:37, 10024:15,
10050:41, 10050:45
Commissioner [12] 10021:34, 10022:1,
10022:21, 10022:36,
10049:16, 10052:46,
10053:2, 10072:4,
10072:7, 10080:5,
10088:35, 10096:44
commissioner's [1] 10025:24
Commissioner's [1] 10072:22
Commissions [1] 10022:30
commitment [1] 10050:21
committed [2] - 10023:12,
10024:29
committing [1] - 10054:16
Commodore [1] 10078:12
Commonwealth [1] 10024:46
communicated [1] 10124:45
communicating [1] 10079:34
communications [1] 10076:40
community [12] 10024:23, 10031:30,
10034:40, 10034:41,
10043:9, 10043:40,
10054:13, 10077:47,
10078:2, 10083:18,
10113:1, 10113:2
Community [6] - 10022:7,
10023:6, 10025:38,
10049:10, 10053:31,
10074:1
company [2] - 10073:46,
10114:21
compared [2] - 10066:19,
10094:22
compassionately [1] 10051:6
compensable [1] 10109:47
compensation [34] -
10023:31, 10023:32,
10026:26, 10027:15,
10027:33, 10048:37,
10048:39, 10048:41,
10048:44, 10048:45,
10048:46, 10049:4,
10066:3, 10066:9,
10066:11, 10066:14,
10078:11, 10078:18,
10078:25, 10085:41,
10085:43, 10095:30,
10095:37, 10096:21,
10102:22, 10102:28,
10104:15, 10104:21,
10109:37, 10109:39,
10110:3, 10128:28,
10128:36, 10129:38
Compensation [2] 10066:9, 10078:20
complained [2] 10028:21, 10092:9
complaining [2] 10026:9, 10036:32
complaint [8] - 10026:24,
10027:13, 10031:16,
10031:26, 10031:46,
10032:19, 10032:36,
10033:22
complaints [12] 10023:27, 10029:38,
10030:3, 10030:4,
10031:43, 10032:34,
10033:17, 10033:18,
10033:32, 10036:28,
10064:22, 10121:32
complete [4] - 10042:17,
10065:37, 10068:9,
10075:2
completed [1] - 10127:11
completely [1] - 10055:23
complex [2] - 10038:1,
10113:38
complexities [1] - 10114:5
complexity [2] - 10113:40,
10113:41
compliance [1] - 10025:23
complied [1] - 10048:34
composed [1] - 10030:16
comprised [3] - 10046:14,
10054:33, 10090:12
compromise [7] 10037:34, 10040:46,
10044:35, 10044:45,
10045:18, 10045:35,
10047:20
concern [1] - 10042:45
concerned [3] - 10030:39,
10043:35, 10119:18
concerning [2] 10031:42, 10033:4
concerns [2] - 10022:38,
10029:37
conclude [3] - 10040:25,
10049:20, 10072:10
concluded [2] - 10023:38,
10029:36
conclusion [3] - 10030:18,
10031:6, 10050:31
conclusions [1] 10047:28
condition [2] - 10087:2,
10109:18
conditions [2] - 10024:42,
10025:20
conduct [2] - 10023:27,
10048:24
conducted [5] - 10023:36,
10024:1, 10024:36,
10031:35, 10048:4
conducting [1] - 10093:4
conference [12] 10036:17, 10036:18,
10036:23, 10037:4,
10040:36, 10040:37,
10040:43, 10047:33,
10047:42, 10047:43,
10086:28, 10117:28
confide [1] - 10100:39
confided [1] - 10028:2
confidentiality [4] 10052:29, 10052:35,
10052:39, 10069:14
confinement [1] 10025:13
confirm [1] - 10122:16
connected [1] - 10056:11
connection [2] 10078:36, 10109:13
consensus [2] - 10129:14,
10129:22
consent [1] - 10078:9
consequence [1] 10033:18
consider [5] - 10024:24,
10031:36, 10037:27,
10043:8, 10047:29
consideration [4] 10031:5, 10038:31,
10045:13, 10045:20
considered [3] 10038:22, 10048:31,
10084:15
considering [2] 10119:13, 10119:16
consisted [1] - 10098:6
consists [1] - 10108:28
consolidated [1] 10035:46
Constable [6] - 10032:6,
10032:8, 10033:28,
10042:41, 10042:46,
10043:1
construction [1] 10024:33
consultations [3] 10116:17, 10116:22,
10116:30
consumption [1] 10079:4
contact [5] - 10066:6,
10079:36, 10109:23,
10122:46, 10123:5
contacted [6] - 10064:6,
10084:14, 10103:18,
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10109:24, 10109:31,
10122:13
contains [2] - 10041:31,
10041:32
content [1] - 10072:5
context [1] - 10130:9
contingency [2] 10116:7, 10116:9
continual [1] - 10065:25
continue [5] - 10083:29,
10086:28, 10101:27,
10102:40, 10108:46
continued [2] - 10074:27,
10100:31
continues [1] - 10050:44
continuing [2] - 10025:1,
10105:31
contraceptive [1] 10062:47
contracted [1] - 10103:24
contribute [2] - 10024:15,
10050:45
control [6] - 10023:11,
10023:25, 10025:35,
10077:9, 10077:42,
10095:39
convenience [4] 10023:7, 10049:40,
10072:23, 10117:42
convenient [2] - 10049:16,
10098:38
conversation [5] 10038:13, 10041:1,
10041:42, 10055:25,
10061:19
convey [1] - 10104:28
conveyed [2] - 10088:35,
10128:44
convicted [5] - 10039:25,
10041:27, 10101:12,
10101:17, 10103:36
cope [1] - 10094:10
copies [2] - 10118:6,
10130:33
copy [2] - 10111:20,
10122:32
cord [5] - 10070:39,
10083:26, 10091:1,
10091:11, 10106:35
cords [1] - 10065:17
corner [3] - 10056:12,
10061:30, 10061:31
correct [10] - 10052:21,
10053:25, 10073:34,
10080:32, 10089:12,
10097:17, 10105:37,
10111:39, 10127:25,
10128:9
correspondence [4] 10040:16, 10118:2,
10118:3, 10120:6
corroborate [1] 10041:13
corroboration [1] 10033:23
cost [3] - 10043:9,
10047:37, 10114:20
cost-effective [1] 10047:37
costs [24] - 10023:44,
10023:45, 10024:11,
10037:11, 10037:12,
10044:32, 10044:37,
10045:10, 10045:25,
10045:35, 10045:45,
10046:32, 10047:16,
10047:18, 10047:22,
10048:6, 10048:12,
10048:18, 10048:20,
10113:18, 10113:22,
10118:23, 10119:20,
10121:37
costs" [1] - 10042:27
cotton [2] - 10065:7,
10082:17
couch [2] - 10055:13,
10055:21
Council [1] - 10075:1
council [1] - 10025:22
Counsel [1] - 10021:39
counsel [20] - 10022:2,
10035:4, 10035:17,
10036:6, 10036:13,
10037:14, 10037:27,
10037:29, 10037:33,
10039:33, 10040:38,
10041:30, 10044:38,
10044:42, 10046:40,
10046:41, 10047:34,
10115:46, 10116:2,
10117:19
counsel's [2] - 10038:31,
10047:35
counselling [3] 10068:16, 10103:34,
10103:41
counsellor [2] - 10065:44,
10072:44
counsellors [1] 10110:37
count [5] - 10032:42,
10032:44, 10032:46,
10033:1
counts [1] - 10032:40
couple [5] - 10041:10,
10084:18, 10084:29,
10102:4, 10106:41
courage [2] - 10033:38,
10050:19
course [9] - 10030:19,
10042:12, 10046:7,
10050:6, 10072:32,
10080:11, 10080:14,
10117:47, 10119:39
court [48] - 10023:13,
10031:26, 10036:45,
10037:23, 10041:17,
10042:16, 10043:21,
10043:33, 10044:5,
10044:9, 10048:46,
10060:27, 10064:15,
10064:22, 10066:34,
10066:47, 10067:30,
10067:35, 10067:38,
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10069:19, 10069:25,
10071:2, 10071:3,
10071:4, 10071:13,
10071:30, 10077:45,
10078:2, 10086:17,
10086:20, 10088:25,
10101:11, 10106:9,
10106:11, 10107:7,
10109:25, 10109:28,
10109:33, 10115:11,
10115:33, 10118:44,
10121:5
Court [14] - 10028:26,
10034:2, 10044:19,
10044:28, 10046:4,
10046:47, 10047:47,
10049:5, 10053:45,
10054:6, 10078:18,
10078:19, 10106:6,
10112:25
court-imposed [1] 10043:33
courtroom [1] - 10078:4
courts [3] - 10067:41,
10070:9, 10078:43
cousin [1] - 10063:35
Coutts [4] - 10049:10,
10122:28, 10122:36,
10123:22
Coutts-Trotter [2] 10049:10, 10122:36
Coutts-Trotter's [2] 10122:28, 10123:22
Cowra [1] - 10085:19
cramps [2] - 10062:43,
10063:2
credible [1] - 10042:43
crime [3] - 10024:14,
10048:47, 10107:44
crimes [1] - 10103:40
criminal [5] - 10064:21,
10086:18, 10095:15,
10109:32, 10118:44
cringe [1] - 10103:9
criteria [5] - 10114:35,
10115:10, 10115:12,
10115:28, 10115:30
criticism [1] - 10037:24
crocheting [1] - 10055:12
cross [4] - 10050:3,
10064:18, 10126:24,
10126:27
cross-examination [1] 10126:24
cross-examined [2] 10064:18, 10126:27
cross-examining [1] 10050:3
crotch [1] - 10058:13
Crown [72] - 10034:14,
10034:16, 10034:20,
10035:3, 10035:7,
10035:22, 10035:27,
10036:6, 10036:12,
10036:15, 10036:20,
10036:27, 10036:31,
10036:34, 10036:38,
10037:5, 10037:45,
10038:4, 10038:5,
10038:20, 10038:29,
10038:33, 10038:41,
10039:7, 10039:37,
10039:46, 10042:12,
10042:24, 10042:29,
10042:40, 10043:4,
10043:16, 10043:20,
10043:28, 10043:47,
10044:37, 10044:41,
10045:9, 10045:14,
10045:17, 10045:23,
10045:31, 10045:37,
10045:39, 10045:42,
10046:6, 10046:34,
10046:35, 10046:37,
10046:39, 10046:45,
10047:7, 10047:10,
10047:12, 10047:13,
10047:19, 10047:27,
10047:28, 10047:40,
10047:44, 10048:2,
10048:3, 10048:7,
10048:23, 10048:25,
10048:27, 10049:12,
10118:1, 10120:7,
10124:45
Crown's [1] - 10119:33
cry [1] - 10070:16
crying [4] - 10055:24,
10056:12, 10059:21,
10063:9
CSO [1] - 10045:30
cup [1] - 10059:32
cups [1] - 10038:14
current [2] - 10023:31,
10103:27
Curtis [8] - 10046:30,
10046:36, 10047:1,
10112:25, 10126:12,
10126:23, 10127:32,
10127:33
custody [1] - 10085:16
cut [2] - 10059:23,
10093:7
D
dad [8] - 10054:9,
10054:10, 10074:12,
10089:19, 10089:33,
10089:36, 10106:42
dad" [1] - 10054:21
daddy [5] - 10055:17,
10055:27, 10055:28,
10055:33
daily [7] - 10057:12,
10065:26, 10071:33,
10083:32, 10085:25,
10086:6, 10090:43
damages [7] - 10023:42,
10038:16, 10045:11,
10047:14, 10048:4,
10048:6, 10115:33
date [11] - 10044:29,
10047:18, 10078:31,
10107:7, 10121:9,
10121:14, 10121:35,
10125:46, 10126:6,
10126:17, 10126:20
dated [9] - 10030:12,
10030:43, 10032:9,
10033:29, 10039:47,
10044:44, 10109:44,
10111:19, 10124:35
DATED [7] - 10052:10,
10073:21, 10080:20,
10089:2, 10097:9,
10105:23, 10111:31
dates [2] - 10053:30,
10112:24
daughter [14] - 10022:47,
10054:35, 10065:22,
10076:45, 10077:4,
10077:5, 10078:15,
10081:20, 10081:36,
10087:15, 10090:16,
10098:15, 10098:18,
10108:9
daughters [1] - 10106:1
daunting [1] - 10068:6
David [1] - 10021:39
day-to-day [1] - 10045:47
days [4] - 10044:12,
10064:3, 10109:11,
10127:6
de [1] - 10058:45
deal [13] - 10033:38,
10033:44, 10049:39,
10050:4, 10050:6,
10069:18, 10086:32,
10087:24, 10120:42,
10120:47, 10121:21,
10124:40, 10127:6
dealing [6] - 10051:5,
10051:16, 10055:47,
10086:31, 10108:36,
10123:4
dealings [1] - 10118:27
dealt [1] - 10043:5
Deane [4] - 10080:13,
10080:24, 10089:4,
10097:5
DEANE [6] - 10080:26,
10088:32, 10089:6,
10096:37, 10097:11,
10104:26
death [2] - 10069:31,
10076:12
deaths [1] - 10108:3
December [27] - 10025:30,
10031:46, 10032:14,
10032:22, 10032:30,
10035:21, 10035:27,
10038:5, 10038:33,
10038:41, 10041:1,
10041:7, 10041:16,
10046:26, 10046:30,
10046:34, 10047:2,
10048:10, 10048:13,
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10054:15, 10068:38,
10071:6, 10095:20,
10112:26, 10126:9,
10126:10, 10126:23
decided [3] - 10083:46,
10091:12, 10114:23
decision [13] - 10030:20,
10033:21, 10047:1,
10047:6, 10054:6,
10054:7, 10066:10,
10078:19, 10114:36,
10114:38, 10114:39,
10114:41
declaration [2] 10035:33, 10120:1
declarations [1] 10102:24
declined [1] - 10102:16
deeply [2] - 10050:27,
10076:13
defence [7] - 10035:24,
10035:29, 10036:41,
10043:25, 10046:10,
10046:27, 10120:7
defences [2] - 10024:10,
10039:16
defendant [11] - 10038:12,
10038:43, 10040:38,
10044:4, 10044:36,
10045:44, 10047:21,
10066:27, 10125:13,
10128:12, 10128:13
defending [1] - 10047:13
defer [1] - 10049:38
definitely [2] - 10064:37,
10128:42
delay [1] - 10024:11
delays [1] - 10066:26
deliberately [2] 10026:37, 10074:32
delivered [3] - 10046:36,
10048:15, 10068:41
demanding" [1] - 10038:2
dementia [1] - 10120:45
denied [2] - 10039:17,
10088:15
department [65] 10024:30, 10024:36,
10024:39, 10025:1,
10028:45, 10029:2,
10029:8, 10029:36,
10030:19, 10030:32,
10030:45, 10031:6,
10031:14, 10031:21,
10031:23, 10031:33,
10031:35, 10032:7,
10034:7, 10036:11,
10036:13, 10036:17,
10036:21, 10036:34,
10037:4, 10037:7,
10037:11, 10037:20,
10037:22, 10037:24,
10037:26, 10038:30,
10038:34, 10039:40,
10040:1, 10040:33,
10041:2, 10042:25,
10043:19, 10043:20,
10043:32, 10043:37,
10045:8, 10045:16,
10045:18, 10045:24,
10045:28, 10045:38,
10045:43, 10046:27,
10046:34, 10046:46,
10047:6, 10047:24,
10047:33, 10047:40,
10047:44, 10048:11,
10048:15, 10050:16,
10050:27, 10050:32,
10050:34, 10068:42,
10128:41
Department [8] - 10022:7,
10023:6, 10028:11,
10049:10, 10049:14,
10053:31, 10074:1,
10089:40
department" [1] - 10023:8
department's [4] 10029:4, 10036:35,
10043:31, 10047:28
deploying [1] - 10114:18
depressed [3] - 10093:46,
10103:21, 10103:29
depression [3] - 10094:2,
10094:4, 10108:42
Derek [1] - 10045:7
describe [4] - 10026:23,
10027:12, 10027:32,
10079:6
description [1] - 10125:30
deserved [1] - 10104:14
despite [1] - 10042:34
destroyed [2] - 10067:4,
10071:19
detailed [3] - 10041:31,
10047:11, 10118:30
detective [1] - 10029:43
Detective [10] - 10029:44,
10033:28, 10042:41,
10042:46, 10042:47,
10064:3, 10066:17,
10095:14, 10109:24,
10109:31
detectives [3] - 10029:42,
10030:2, 10102:14
detention [1] - 10106:10
determined [4] 10043:25, 10044:10,
10045:1, 10128:4
detoxification [1] 10076:19
devastating [2] 10023:20, 10028:38
developments [1] 10033:15
diagnosed [1] - 10065:27
dialysis [2] - 10062:4,
10062:11
Diane [1] - 10084:12
Dianne [1] - 10117:15
died [15] - 10027:20,
10064:22, 10064:25,
10069:30, 10073:44,
10073:45, 10076:12,
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different [9] - 10023:10,
10053:30, 10067:41,
10084:3, 10093:11,
10101:26, 10107:8,
10107:36, 10114:33
differently [1] - 10090:33
difficult [15] - 10028:7,
10047:36, 10065:46,
10066:21, 10066:25,
10066:30, 10075:39,
10079:10, 10096:16,
10104:44, 10110:36,
10114:5, 10116:33,
10126:18, 10126:20
difficulties [10] 10028:41, 10105:31,
10116:17, 10116:29,
10116:31, 10116:41,
10117:3, 10128:22,
10129:11, 10129:18
difficulty [4] - 10041:26,
10046:12, 10049:47,
10116:46
digital [2] - 10026:15,
10026:42
dignity [1] - 10065:3
Dimech [3] - 10030:45,
10031:16, 10075:27
dinner [3] - 10027:47,
10100:9, 10100:18
direct [3] - 10037:20,
10073:37, 10097:20
direction [6] - 10022:29,
10022:31, 10022:34,
10088:41, 10096:45
directions [5] - 10035:14,
10036:46, 10039:30,
10042:15, 10042:18
directly [2] - 10090:4,
10118:29
director [2] - 10045:8,
10049:1
dirt [1] - 10054:32
dirty [3] - 10059:25,
10065:32, 10106:30
disability [1] - 10035:35
disadvantaged [6] 10025:12, 10034:42,
10113:3, 10113:6,
10115:17, 10115:20
disagreed [1] - 10106:35
disappear [1] - 10079:5
disappointed [1] 10060:28
disastrous [1] - 10077:16
disbursements [3] 10045:26, 10047:18,
10114:24
disclose [5] - 10023:44,
10029:1, 10030:8,
10039:3, 10042:10
disclosed [1] - 10032:10
disclosing [2] - 10046:15,
10122:6
discovered [1] - 10091:11
discretionary [1] 10125:12
discuss [4] - 10036:12,
10037:6, 10037:30,
10047:43
discussed [4] - 10036:11,
10036:17, 10038:16,
10100:40
discussing [2] - 10100:47,
10107:13
discussion [4] - 10036:23,
10037:33, 10042:19,
10042:21
disgusted [2] - 10065:35,
10092:43
dislike [1] - 10101:27
dismissal [1] - 10044:16
dismissed [2] - 10035:42,
10046:30
dismissing [2] - 10046:37,
10054:16
disorder [4] - 10077:13,
10103:22, 10103:23,
10108:44
dispute [1] - 10044:3
distraught [1] - 10059:29
distress [1] - 10118:31
distressed [2] - 10040:20,
10057:6
district [7] - 10024:39,
10029:8, 10030:25,
10030:32, 10030:46,
10031:22, 10040:2
District [6] - 10034:2,
10044:28, 10046:4,
10049:5, 10053:34,
10112:25
DoCS [22] - 10027:6,
10027:9, 10027:29,
10028:25, 10032:15,
10032:19, 10041:11,
10053:44, 10054:2,
10054:11, 10068:22,
10075:38, 10076:41,
10076:44, 10077:4,
10078:45, 10079:22,
10083:4, 10106:5,
10107:38, 10110:29
doctor [5] - 10062:45,
10063:4, 10094:3,
10108:42, 10116:36
doctors [6] - 10055:9,
10079:2, 10109:8,
10116:26, 10117:13,
10117:39
doctors' [1] - 10062:14
document [2] - 10121:28,
10124:25
documented [1] 10032:19
documents [9] 10046:14, 10046:18,
10050:1, 10121:47,
10126:41, 10127:7,
10127:22, 10127:36,
10127:43
Dodge [2] - 10084:32,
10084:36
domestic [4] - 10028:41,
10084:42, 10085:43,
10115:14
dominated [1] - 10086:36
done [7] - 10046:40,
10063:21, 10076:42,
10078:23, 10079:33,
10088:38, 10093:2
door [20] - 10056:5,
10056:9, 10056:10,
10056:24, 10058:17,
10058:20, 10059:36,
10059:40, 10060:7,
10060:37, 10060:38,
10060:39, 10060:40,
10060:44, 10060:46,
10060:47, 10061:34,
10063:43, 10106:22
doors [1] - 10082:35
doorstopper [1] - 10108:7
doubt [1] - 10042:5
doubted [1] - 10041:5
doubtful [1] - 10041:22
doubts [1] - 10038:45
Doug [21] - 10065:45,
10069:32, 10069:34,
10069:36, 10069:41,
10069:44, 10070:3,
10070:5, 10070:13,
10070:14, 10070:20,
10070:28, 10070:35,
10070:43, 10071:6,
10071:8, 10071:10,
10071:14, 10071:23,
10071:25, 10071:27
Doug's [4] - 10070:6,
10071:2, 10071:3,
10071:32
Douglas [12] - 10034:1,
10034:11, 10053:37,
10053:39, 10053:40,
10053:44, 10054:7,
10054:16, 10058:30,
10068:40, 10069:30,
10070:37
doused [1] - 10070:29
down [40] - 10028:42,
10031:40, 10054:40,
10055:17, 10055:27,
10055:28, 10055:32,
10056:6, 10056:9,
10056:28, 10056:44,
10057:47, 10060:3,
10060:12, 10061:5,
10062:23, 10062:34,
10064:26, 10064:27,
10075:11, 10075:42,
10076:7, 10077:4,
10077:5, 10081:32,
10082:3, 10082:5,
10082:18, 10082:36,
10085:30, 10085:32,
10099:14, 10099:19,
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10099:37, 10100:16,
10100:29, 10103:16,
10106:25, 10108:38,
10110:22
Dr [6] - 10041:30,
10086:26, 10110:21,
10116:32, 10116:42,
10117:41
drafted [1] - 10102:15
drag [2] - 10067:12,
10068:36
dragged [1] - 10079:22
drank [2] - 10070:8,
10108:2
dressed [2] - 10029:24,
10064:46
drink [4] - 10089:29,
10092:46, 10095:3,
10103:30
drinker [1] - 10076:20
drinking [12] - 10070:9,
10075:39, 10076:8,
10076:17, 10077:21,
10077:35, 10078:39,
10085:11, 10085:15,
10085:19, 10085:22,
10102:45
drive [3] - 10059:5,
10081:44, 10098:45
driver [2] - 10059:6,
10081:8
driver's [1] - 10059:19
driving [2] - 10090:21,
10095:3
drop [1] - 10061:36
dropped [3] - 10108:10,
10118:19, 10118:22
drove [8] - 10058:12,
10059:1, 10061:17,
10061:30, 10061:40,
10062:31, 10078:14,
10083:11
drown [1] - 10070:6
drug [4] - 10028:40,
10054:43, 10093:34,
10107:29
drugs [9] - 10069:25,
10076:38, 10093:37,
10094:11, 10102:41,
10102:42, 10103:10,
10107:18, 10107:20
drunk [5] - 10085:26,
10089:30, 10094:11,
10102:10, 10108:1
drunkenness [1] 10095:3
Dubbo [7] - 10029:43,
10033:42, 10064:16,
10066:5, 10106:2,
10109:36, 10117:42
due [1] - 10050:6
dumped [1] - 10101:29
during [20] - 10024:22,
10040:3, 10046:7,
10046:12, 10051:18,
10057:13, 10066:23,
10076:47, 10083:23,
10083:45, 10084:42,
10085:22, 10099:22,
10100:13, 10100:36,
10101:43, 10102:6,
10107:47, 10117:47,
10121:26
duty [1] - 10104:1
dying [3] - 10068:28,
10071:27, 10071:28
E
early [9] - 10029:3,
10035:4, 10036:9,
10036:16, 10036:24,
10038:36, 10048:30,
10071:16, 10117:36
ease [2] - 10067:19,
10093:47
easier [3] - 10067:38,
10069:11, 10086:32
easy [2] - 10066:15,
10117:11
economic [1] - 10036:42
edge [1] - 10067:6
Edie [26] - 10070:35,
10070:36, 10074:9,
10074:11, 10074:24,
10075:3, 10075:11,
10075:15, 10075:16,
10075:31, 10079:15,
10081:19, 10081:23,
10083:25, 10083:36,
10084:20, 10084:26,
10090:13, 10090:16,
10090:34, 10091:46,
10092:3, 10092:33,
10106:16, 10106:34
Edie's [1] - 10081:36
edith [1] - 10055:32
Edith [53] - 10022:46,
10054:8, 10054:17,
10054:21, 10054:26,
10054:35, 10054:36,
10054:45, 10055:11,
10055:12, 10055:14,
10055:15, 10055:23,
10055:25, 10055:35,
10055:40, 10055:44,
10055:45, 10055:46,
10056:9, 10057:18,
10057:43, 10058:1,
10058:8, 10058:23,
10058:28, 10058:35,
10058:42, 10059:32,
10059:33, 10060:32,
10060:36, 10061:44,
10062:8, 10062:44,
10063:27, 10063:44,
10064:25, 10064:27,
10064:31, 10064:37,
10065:16, 10065:41,
10066:38, 10081:18,
10090:9, 10090:46,
10098:8, 10098:10,
10098:16, 10100:17,
10106:15
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Edith's [3] - 10056:4,
10056:23, 10064:33
educated [1] - 10093:25
education [3] - 10065:5,
10074:44, 10114:2
effect [39] - 10023:20,
10028:39, 10036:28,
10040:12, 10042:43,
10050:33, 10055:17,
10055:37, 10057:28,
10058:14, 10058:24,
10059:24, 10059:34,
10060:14, 10060:18,
10060:26, 10061:26,
10061:32, 10061:45,
10062:22, 10062:24,
10062:36, 10062:39,
10063:7, 10063:10,
10063:17, 10073:38,
10075:10, 10075:12,
10082:24, 10091:36,
10091:47, 10097:22,
10106:24, 10115:2,
10122:15, 10122:46,
10123:35, 10126:16
effective [3] - 10038:43,
10047:37, 10051:5
effectively [3] - 10114:38,
10114:45, 10115:10
Eggins [2] - 10032:15
eight [2] - 10097:45,
10101:19
either [8] - 10043:19,
10055:44, 10073:46,
10106:5, 10108:43,
10120:44, 10129:2,
10130:31
ejaculated [2] - 10099:25,
10099:45
elderly [1] - 10033:24
eldest [2] - 10071:3,
10107:39
electric [1] - 10090:47
elicit [1] - 10128:19
email [11] - 10039:40,
10040:10, 10041:7,
10041:18, 10041:29,
10041:31, 10042:38,
10042:40, 10043:15,
10043:30, 10047:32
embarrassed [2] 10070:45, 10091:30
emerged [1] - 10046:7
emotional [4] - 10039:20,
10066:35, 10086:43,
10087:22
emotionally [2] - 10038:1,
10074:23
emphasis [1] - 10023:34
employed [3] - 10030:32,
10034:16, 10040:1
employer [5] - 10118:15,
10118:27, 10118:33,
10118:36, 10118:38
employment [3] 10028:42, 10118:31,
10119:18
enable [1] - 10045:30
end [14] - 10048:7,
10052:21, 10055:12,
10056:36, 10062:16,
10063:23, 10067:14,
10079:24, 10084:35,
10085:5, 10091:2,
10096:22, 10101:46,
10128:4
ended [6] - 10064:32,
10068:13, 10070:8,
10070:30, 10094:16,
10101:44
endure [2] - 10043:12,
10043:38
energy [1] - 10067:13
engage [1] - 10128:32
engaged [2] - 10076:28,
10116:7
ENGLAND [6] - 10022:6,
10050:14, 10071:41,
10079:45, 10110:47,
10130:18
England [2] - 10050:9,
10050:11
enjoyment [1] - 10076:29
ensuite [1] - 10056:4
ensure [5] - 10024:41,
10050:35, 10088:34,
10096:39, 10104:16
ensuring [1] - 10050:21
entered [1] - 10091:14
entitled [1] - 10049:3
environment [1] - 10115:9
episode [1] - 10086:35
episodes [1] - 10029:34
error [1] - 10130:8
escape [1] - 10065:5
escaped [2] - 10076:5,
10106:38
especially [4] - 10068:35,
10088:15, 10110:32,
10110:37
essence [2] - 10119:40,
10125:43
essentially [3] - 10119:47,
10127:23, 10129:2
establish [2] - 10040:32,
10068:23
established [4] 10024:19, 10034:40,
10037:22, 10113:2
establishment [1] 10025:9
esteem [1] - 10065:25
estimate [5] - 10045:10,
10047:14, 10047:15,
10074:36, 10100:35
estimated [2] - 10039:37,
10045:10
Evangelos [1] - 10034:17
event [2] - 10109:9,
10120:12
events [9] - 10031:42,
10075:33, 10079:6,
10086:15, 10086:21,
10086:34, 10087:4,
10110:10, 10120:38
eventually [3] - 10058:37,
10067:10, 10087:34
evidence [89] - 10023:17,
10023:20, 10023:43,
10024:4, 10025:41,
10025:43, 10025:46,
10026:3, 10026:7,
10026:17, 10026:27,
10026:31, 10026:32,
10026:34, 10026:40,
10026:43, 10027:3,
10027:6, 10027:18,
10027:21, 10027:36,
10027:38, 10027:40,
10027:45, 10028:1,
10028:6, 10028:9,
10028:12, 10028:24,
10028:28, 10028:30,
10028:35, 10028:38,
10029:1, 10029:20,
10029:23, 10030:8,
10031:10, 10031:13,
10031:32, 10033:17,
10033:40, 10035:11,
10035:12, 10035:46,
10035:47, 10038:26,
10039:3, 10041:37,
10042:17, 10043:43,
10046:15, 10046:17,
10046:22, 10048:24,
10048:32, 10048:36,
10049:8, 10049:44,
10050:17, 10053:23,
10064:15, 10071:35,
10072:36, 10073:32,
10077:45, 10078:2,
10078:22, 10079:38,
10080:29, 10085:38,
10086:19, 10089:9,
10097:3, 10097:14,
10105:35, 10112:35,
10113:47, 10116:40,
10117:2, 10118:14,
10120:34, 10121:41,
10122:5, 10122:11,
10122:42, 10124:47,
10126:19, 10129:35
evil [3] - 10057:20,
10057:31, 10063:8
ex [6] - 10085:7,
10107:47, 10108:1,
10108:5, 10108:6,
10108:9
ex-husband [6] - 10085:7,
10107:47, 10108:1,
10108:5, 10108:6,
10108:9
exacerbated [1] - 10051:9
exactly [2] - 10068:33,
10099:3
exaggerated [1] 10040:17
EXAMINATION [4] 10051:30, 10073:3,
10105:10, 10111:14
examination [3] 10050:41, 10050:46,
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10126:24
examinations [2] 10102:26, 10117:41
examine [1] - 10051:14
examined [6] - 10024:8,
10064:18, 10109:9,
10109:43, 10110:20,
10126:27
examining [3] - 10024:6,
10050:3, 10051:19
example [1] - 10040:20
examples [1] - 10070:40
excellent [1] - 10033:36
except [1] - 10074:13
exceptionally [1] 10065:46
excess [2] - 10041:19,
10128:28
excessive [1] - 10070:9
excessively [2] 10085:15, 10085:23
exchange [1] - 10059:41
excluding [2] - 10048:6,
10068:40
excuse [1] - 10059:4
excused [3] - 10071:46,
10080:1, 10111:5
excuses [1] - 10103:10
exhibit [9] - 10049:34,
10052:7, 10073:18,
10080:17, 10088:47,
10097:7, 10104:42,
10111:29, 10129:32
EXHIBIT [8] - 10049:36,
10052:9, 10073:20,
10080:19, 10089:2,
10097:9, 10105:22,
10111:31
existence [1] - 10093:36
exists [1] - 10031:29
expect [2] - 10051:3,
10096:19
expectation [2] - 10110:4,
10116:10
expectations [1] 10088:3
expected [3] - 10029:1,
10096:23, 10116:35
expects [1] - 10024:7
expeditiously [1] 10047:46
expensive [2] - 10038:1,
10047:36
experience [27] 10023:24, 10025:42,
10026:23, 10026:25,
10027:12, 10027:14,
10027:32, 10039:12,
10051:2, 10051:10,
10055:40, 10057:5,
10073:46, 10076:13,
10078:2, 10083:19,
10087:23, 10103:4,
10110:23, 10110:26,
10114:1, 10116:33,
10116:35, 10116:45,
10117:8, 10117:30,
10118:14
experienced [4] 10048:13, 10076:24,
10094:31, 10095:23
experiences [7] 10043:11, 10043:37,
10050:29, 10086:40,
10087:26, 10116:36,
10117:34
experts" [1] - 10116:18
explain [5] - 10110:28,
10114:5, 10114:8,
10117:11, 10129:28
explained [2] - 10096:13,
10104:6
explaining [2] - 10066:22,
10067:2
explanation [1] - 10117:14
explore [3] - 10024:13,
10026:27, 10047:45
explored [2] - 10024:4,
10045:14
expressed [4] - 10029:37,
10041:46, 10118:31,
10118:39
expressing [1] - 10044:45
extended [4] - 10025:29,
10025:32, 10035:38,
10109:41
extends [1] - 10123:3
extension [3] - 10048:29,
10120:2, 10120:12
extra [1] - 10066:15
extremely [7] - 10028:35,
10047:36, 10079:1,
10086:35, 10087:36,
10107:24, 10110:23
eyes [1] - 10099:22
F
face [11] - 10026:15,
10056:29, 10058:23,
10059:23, 10060:5,
10060:36, 10061:8,
10070:39, 10070:40,
10078:4, 10106:25
faced [1] - 10117:8
faces [1] - 10078:5
faces" [1] - 10039:1
facility [1] - 10024:41
facing [1] - 10025:12
FACS [1] - 10088:10
fact [8] - 10033:23,
10033:34, 10041:25,
10043:24, 10065:36,
10118:26, 10122:7,
10122:16
facto [1] - 10058:45
factor [1] - 10118:28
fail [1] - 10047:36
failed [3] - 10076:33,
10108:25, 10110:15
failing [1] - 10078:29
failings [1] - 10050:21
failure [1] - 10062:4
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fair [4] - 10057:46,
10070:27, 10120:30,
10128:38
fairly [1] - 10125:33
faith [1] - 10065:40
families [1] - 10023:14
Family [4] - 10022:7,
10023:6, 10049:10,
10066:6
family [20] - 10057:42,
10063:30, 10063:38,
10066:43, 10068:8,
10070:16, 10074:12,
10078:5, 10084:16,
10084:24, 10089:20,
10092:37, 10092:41,
10101:13, 10106:17,
10108:31, 10110:33,
10114:28, 10115:14,
10119:8
family' [1] - 10075:13
far [4] - 10059:38,
10061:30, 10064:26,
10081:15
Farrer [1] - 10021:22
Father [1] - 10076:2
father [21] - 10027:19,
10054:7, 10055:33,
10055:38, 10058:18,
10058:19, 10058:21,
10058:24, 10058:29,
10059:35, 10068:24,
10070:4, 10070:11,
10071:20, 10073:44,
10080:45, 10081:7,
10081:9, 10097:31,
10106:8, 10107:33
father's [5] - 10058:16,
10063:47, 10064:7,
10106:16, 10106:39
fathers [2] - 10093:12,
10094:20
fault [1] - 10101:29
favour [2] - 10046:8,
10113:22
favourites [1] - 10090:35
faxed [1] - 10118:3
fear [6] - 10026:47,
10028:2, 10077:9,
10087:38, 10118:38,
10118:39
fearful [1] - 10118:33
February [20] - 10024:19,
10024:28, 10033:29,
10035:32, 10035:40,
10039:4, 10044:12,
10044:14, 10044:21,
10044:23, 10044:28,
10094:41, 10095:13,
10119:46, 10120:14,
10120:39, 10121:10,
10125:45, 10126:6,
10126:17
federally [1] - 10114:28
federally-funded [1] 10114:28
feelings [2] - 10056:1,
10093:47
fees [3] - 10113:5,
10113:32, 10116:10
fell [2] - 10061:10,
10101:43
felt [41] - 10028:20,
10040:44, 10041:3,
10054:12, 10056:38,
10057:6, 10057:7,
10058:34, 10058:36,
10060:1, 10066:35,
10066:36, 10067:3,
10067:9, 10067:11,
10067:13, 10067:31,
10068:3, 10069:20,
10070:45, 10074:16,
10075:45, 10077:42,
10079:22, 10079:24,
10086:35, 10086:43,
10087:25, 10089:43,
10090:6, 10093:2,
10093:46, 10101:28,
10103:38, 10104:14,
10106:26, 10106:30,
10108:3, 10109:10,
10121:19, 10129:7
female [1] - 10029:42
feminine [1] - 10083:40
fence [1] - 10057:33
few [11] - 10057:46,
10064:3, 10064:31,
10065:20, 10068:16,
10075:18, 10075:27,
10085:41, 10087:33,
10093:44, 10106:31
fibro [1] - 10081:28
fight [5] - 10058:22,
10067:9, 10069:35,
10089:36, 10106:28
fighting [3] - 10067:13,
10068:18, 10095:4
file [8] - 10035:1, 10054:2,
10068:22, 10109:42,
10112:10, 10118:30,
10120:19, 10120:25
filed [18] - 10034:22,
10034:31, 10035:10,
10035:18, 10035:32,
10035:40, 10039:16,
10046:23, 10047:2,
10119:47, 10120:5,
10120:33, 10121:4,
10124:44, 10125:10,
10125:13, 10125:43
files [5] - 10032:20,
10053:31, 10112:1,
10122:40, 10123:41
filing [1] - 10044:19
filling [1] - 10062:12
finally [3] - 10026:36,
10028:23, 10060:21
financial [3] - 10063:24,
10096:21, 10113:32
finger [1] - 10074:41
fingering [1] - 10056:7
finish [1] - 10069:12
finished [7] - 10060:6,
10068:14, 10068:19,
10071:13, 10091:14,
10099:25, 10099:44
fire [1] - 10025:24
first [25] - 10026:9,
10030:10, 10050:11,
10050:12, 10054:22,
10055:8, 10055:19,
10055:43, 10057:31,
10057:36, 10058:6,
10058:7, 10062:6,
10070:6, 10080:15,
10082:38, 10093:10,
10098:7, 10101:9,
10101:44, 10107:32,
10107:33, 10123:28,
10124:33, 10126:32
firstly [1] - 10042:2
Fishburn [6] - 10030:31,
10030:39, 10039:47,
10040:3, 10040:10
fists [1] - 10083:28
Fitzgerald [1] - 10021:34
five [14] - 10024:20,
10024:28, 10025:31,
10032:40, 10038:39,
10054:18, 10055:3,
10055:6, 10076:10,
10081:35, 10098:41,
10099:8, 10100:36,
10130:25
five-year [2] - 10024:20,
10025:31
fixed [4] - 10044:11,
10120:13, 10120:17,
10126:8
fixing [1] - 10090:21
flashbacks [2] - 10076:24,
10076:28
flew [1] - 10055:35
flick [1] - 10057:3
flog [2] - 10065:16,
10092:10
flogged [13] - 10026:10,
10027:47, 10054:26,
10055:38, 10057:10,
10057:26, 10065:15,
10075:31, 10083:35,
10084:5, 10090:46,
10100:17, 10100:25
flogging [7] - 10060:41,
10061:46, 10062:40,
10084:4, 10086:6,
10089:31, 10091:1
floor [4] - 10027:25,
10055:30, 10063:41,
10082:23
FLORENCE [1] - 10080:19
Florence [1] - 10080:35
flown [1] - 10097:28
Foat [1] - 10030:43
focus [2] - 10040:31,
10115:13
followed [3] - 10030:41,
10099:11, 10099:36
following [15] - 10023:23,
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10025:20, 10032:5,
10038:6, 10043:14,
10055:24, 10059:41,
10061:19, 10074:37,
10079:3, 10080:11,
10082:24, 10099:27,
10106:24, 10107:12
follows [2] - 10032:40,
10104:42
fondle [3] - 10056:27,
10059:10, 10100:30
fondling [4] - 10040:13,
10040:23, 10040:25,
10064:45
foot [1] - 10057:2
footsteps [1] - 10082:20
Force [1] - 10049:13
forced [2] - 10062:8,
10106:22
forcing [1] - 10061:7
foreshadowing [1] 10044:24
forever [2] - 10059:15,
10079:5
forget [3] - 10079:30,
10085:33, 10092:47
forgotten [1] - 10050:22
fork [1] - 10058:14
form [1] - 10114:47
formal [1] - 10037:47
formally [1] - 10113:12
formed [2] - 10039:13,
10125:33
former [18] - 10022:39,
10022:42, 10023:16,
10023:24, 10023:28,
10023:30, 10023:35,
10023:40, 10023:45,
10025:42, 10025:46,
10031:43, 10032:8,
10033:45, 10033:47,
10034:32, 10070:13,
10094:21
fortnightly [1] - 10062:14
forward [5] - 10026:20,
10063:20, 10068:7,
10071:1, 10087:27
foster [29] - 10028:2,
10054:22, 10054:35,
10061:18, 10061:19,
10061:20, 10061:24,
10061:25, 10061:27,
10061:31, 10061:33,
10061:40, 10061:41,
10061:42, 10063:9,
10063:32, 10064:5,
10067:17, 10069:42,
10069:43, 10069:45,
10087:14, 10090:10,
10094:37, 10098:2,
10098:18, 10101:10,
10107:40, 10107:41
fostered [1] - 10087:18
fought [2] - 10069:35,
10071:31
founded [2] - 10036:29,
10115:27
four [13] - 10038:39,
10053:35, 10062:12,
10077:30, 10080:38,
10081:35, 10083:7,
10084:40, 10087:17,
10089:20, 10093:11,
10094:41, 10107:42
four-month [1] - 10094:41
Fourthly [1] - 10032:29
fractured [1] - 10077:22
fracturing [1] - 10077:24
Freer [9] - 10033:28,
10042:42, 10043:1,
10064:4, 10064:8,
10066:17, 10095:14,
10109:24, 10109:31
Freer's [1] - 10042:46
friend [4] - 10022:13,
10077:20, 10106:39,
10108:14
friends [4] - 10065:12,
10065:39, 10068:8,
10082:42
friends' [1] - 10065:13
frightened [1] - 10061:1
frightening [1] - 10057:18
front [13] - 10034:23,
10034:24, 10055:23,
10056:19, 10057:1,
10058:11, 10059:5,
10059:18, 10061:28,
10061:41, 10063:9,
10098:30, 10108:11
fuck [1] - 10059:41
fuel [1] - 10070:29
fulfilling [1] - 10104:1
full [11] - 10026:16,
10026:42, 10027:42,
10053:28, 10053:37,
10062:3, 10062:18,
10074:40, 10081:27,
10089:15, 10105:40
full-time [2] - 10062:3,
10062:18
fully [7] - 10031:7,
10050:44, 10066:24,
10066:27, 10079:13,
10096:1, 10105:2
funded [4] - 10034:39,
10054:30, 10114:27,
10114:28
funding [2] - 10023:5,
10114:32
funds [2] - 10024:47,
10115:6
funeral [2] - 10064:26,
10064:28
furnishings [1] - 10025:27
furniture [2] - 10076:21,
10078:13
future [2] - 10050:34,
10095:40
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gained [1] - 10119:18
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games [1] - 10103:15
gaol [13] - 10077:1,
10077:30, 10078:7,
10078:24, 10085:1,
10093:15, 10094:17,
10094:43, 10095:2,
10101:17, 10106:8,
10107:39, 10109:34
garden [1] - 10054:25
gathered" [1] - 10030:41
general [2] - 10112:5,
10125:30
generosity [1] - 10071:24
genitals [1] - 10100:30
genuine [1] - 10029:33
GERACE [1] - 10022:21
Gibson [81] - 10023:1,
10023:19, 10026:33,
10026:34, 10026:41,
10027:13, 10027:22,
10027:24, 10027:27,
10027:39, 10027:41,
10028:13, 10028:19,
10029:14, 10029:16,
10029:24, 10029:39,
10031:25, 10032:2,
10032:10, 10032:25,
10032:35, 10032:39,
10033:5, 10033:6,
10033:7, 10033:12,
10033:41, 10034:4,
10034:5, 10039:21,
10039:24, 10041:27,
10041:34, 10041:37,
10054:37, 10064:11,
10064:17, 10074:22,
10074:29, 10074:37,
10074:45, 10075:23,
10075:34, 10076:29,
10077:38, 10077:40,
10078:7, 10078:30,
10079:15, 10081:21,
10085:36, 10086:18,
10090:14, 10095:38,
10098:14, 10098:16,
10098:44, 10099:4,
10099:9, 10099:13,
10099:18, 10099:23,
10099:34, 10099:36,
10100:3, 10100:8,
10100:28, 10100:31,
10100:35, 10100:41,
10101:2, 10101:10,
10101:12, 10101:17,
10102:15, 10102:25,
10103:19, 10103:35,
10118:47
Gibson's [4] - 10027:27,
10041:9, 10078:4,
10078:22
Gibsons [1] - 10077:46
girl [5] - 10055:9,
10055:26, 10055:29,
10055:32, 10091:9
girlfriend [2] - 10063:47,
10064:7
Girls [1] - 10084:17
girls [39] - 10026:20,
10028:20, 10029:15,
10029:16, 10029:31,
10029:45, 10030:2,
10030:3, 10030:9,
10030:15, 10031:3,
10056:44, 10056:45,
10059:46, 10060:7,
10060:33, 10060:34,
10064:4, 10064:11,
10064:16, 10064:18,
10068:40, 10069:36,
10075:25, 10081:34,
10082:32, 10083:7,
10084:21, 10090:29,
10091:42, 10091:45,
10094:35, 10098:22,
10100:39, 10100:42,
10100:43, 10101:1,
10102:37, 10121:32
girls' [1] - 10090:46
given [15] - 10031:5,
10031:38, 10033:17,
10036:39, 10041:37,
10045:30, 10046:46,
10047:46, 10068:15,
10083:39, 10108:15,
10114:32, 10120:6,
10120:18, 10130:1
glad [4] - 10070:47,
10088:20, 10096:12,
10110:35
glimpsed [1] - 10078:4
Glynis [1] - 10045:28
goings [1] - 10058:31
gonna [1] - 10059:42
Gordon [68] - 10022:46,
10023:13, 10023:19,
10024:19, 10024:27,
10024:29, 10024:30,
10025:15, 10025:26,
10025:35, 10025:37,
10026:9, 10026:14,
10026:24, 10026:33,
10026:46, 10027:10,
10027:47, 10028:29,
10029:38, 10030:27,
10030:29, 10030:37,
10031:1, 10031:17,
10032:11, 10032:18,
10032:32, 10032:37,
10033:22, 10033:24,
10033:25, 10034:4,
10034:5, 10040:5,
10040:12, 10054:9,
10054:10, 10054:17,
10054:35, 10055:2,
10064:9, 10064:11,
10074:9, 10074:11,
10074:21, 10074:24,
10075:3, 10075:10,
10075:11, 10075:15,
10075:16, 10076:2,
10079:16, 10081:18,
10081:19, 10090:9,
10090:10, 10098:9,
10098:10, 10100:17,
10106:15, 10106:16
Gordon's [1] - 10022:47
Gordons [15] - 10024:24,
10024:31, 10024:47,
10027:5, 10039:20,
10054:11, 10069:44,
10074:23, 10075:44,
10075:47, 10076:5,
10077:46, 10078:1,
10078:30, 10084:23
Gosford [2] - 10101:23,
10101:32
government [17] 10024:31, 10024:46,
10027:3, 10034:39,
10054:30, 10057:40,
10075:43, 10082:10,
10087:6, 10090:26,
10103:44, 10104:1,
10104:4, 10104:12,
10104:21, 10110:15,
10115:5
government-funded [2] 10034:39, 10054:30
Governor [1] - 10021:21
grab [2] - 10056:39,
10059:8
grabbed [5] - 10027:24,
10056:39, 10057:4,
10060:46, 10091:15
grade [1] - 10034:17
Graeme [1] - 10032:15
grandchild [1] - 10077:26
grandchildren [1] 10077:20
grant [2] - 10024:32,
10025:1
granted [6] - 10022:13,
10022:22, 10025:15,
10025:35, 10040:22,
10062:19
grateful [1] - 10122:32
great [7] - 10033:38,
10050:18, 10071:19,
10071:23, 10076:3,
10087:34, 10093:38
grew [1] - 10089:25
grocery [1] - 10061:21
grog [5] - 10085:29,
10093:36, 10093:47,
10094:44, 10095:6
groped [1] - 10061:3
ground [2] - 10064:42,
10108:10
group [7] - 10069:42,
10069:43, 10087:46,
10116:46, 10117:8,
10129:14, 10129:22
growing [1] - 10083:16
grown [2] - 10086:4,
10091:45
grown-ups [1] - 10091:45
Grub" [1] - 10090:11
guarantee [1] - 10114:21
guided [1] - 10096:27
guilt [1] - 10086:45
guilty [12] - 10033:6,
10033:12, 10039:27,
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10041:38, 10076:47,
10077:30, 10078:8,
10103:39, 10108:3,
10108:25, 10118:47
gutter [3] - 10057:19,
10057:29, 10058:11
guy [1] - 10071:23
gyprock [1] - 10107:23
H
haggling [1] - 10088:18
Haider [1] - 10045:47
hair [1] - 10108:9
half [6] - 10053:35,
10057:13, 10073:44,
10097:33, 10101:13,
10130:25
half-brothers [1] 10053:35
half-sister [1] - 10097:33
hall [1] - 10056:5
halls [1] - 10092:19
hallway [2] - 10056:11,
10082:19
Hamey [1] - 10117:15
hand [10] - 10022:28,
10055:20, 10056:26,
10059:9, 10060:4,
10061:6, 10061:7,
10092:7, 10098:29,
10106:25
hand-operated [1] 10092:7
handed [2] - 10058:11,
10063:25
handle [1] - 10075:36
handled [1] - 10066:18
hands [13] - 10026:14,
10026:33, 10027:39,
10027:41, 10028:12,
10028:28, 10031:10,
10056:46, 10057:2,
10059:8, 10059:10,
10082:22
hang [1] - 10109:4
happy [6] - 10030:5,
10071:16, 10080:43,
10104:8, 10104:24,
10104:35
hard [12] - 10061:10,
10065:39, 10065:45,
10067:32, 10067:45,
10068:7, 10068:9,
10070:43, 10092:9,
10095:22, 10095:24,
10101:13
harder [1] - 10087:30
hate [7] - 10059:43,
10068:27, 10093:8,
10094:22, 10103:1,
10103:14, 10109:7
haunt [1] - 10076:27
Haven [1] - 10094:45
hawk [1] - 10070:20
Hayes [2] - 10032:29,
10032:30
hazy [1] - 10093:36
head [10] - 10055:15,
10060:1, 10060:3,
10061:7, 10067:33,
10075:17, 10077:42,
10108:8, 10109:1
headache [2] - 10055:10
headed [1] - 10030:33
headmaster [1] 10024:37
heal [1] - 10088:6
health [2] - 10028:40,
10033:24
heap [1] - 10081:32
hear [6] - 10025:46,
10051:18, 10051:34,
10072:36, 10082:31,
10092:19
heard [10] - 10044:24,
10046:6, 10046:20,
10060:22, 10082:19,
10091:19, 10091:42,
10113:47, 10127:11,
10127:19
Hearing [1] - 10021:17
hearing [32] - 10023:23,
10024:7, 10024:13,
10029:20, 10035:44,
10041:19, 10044:6,
10044:11, 10044:20,
10044:29, 10046:3,
10046:7, 10046:12,
10047:30, 10047:47,
10048:37, 10050:17,
10050:20, 10050:24,
10051:4, 10051:18,
10066:44, 10112:27,
10120:13, 10120:18,
10121:9, 10121:14,
10121:35, 10125:46,
10126:9, 10126:20,
10126:22
heart [2] - 10093:8,
10094:23
heartfelt [1] - 10068:44
heavily [2] - 10089:29,
10108:10
heavy [4] - 10062:43,
10063:2, 10093:33,
10107:18
held [8] - 10024:32,
10032:7, 10035:45,
10055:16, 10061:6,
10078:1, 10088:30,
10104:13
Helen [5] - 10022:18,
10034:18, 10049:11,
10115:45, 10117:29
hell [2] - 10057:15,
10063:8
help [9] - 10058:46,
10059:24, 10063:13,
10063:24, 10073:24,
10088:6, 10088:11,
10104:15, 10108:43
helped [10] - 10067:20,
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10068:17, 10069:18,
10070:24, 10071:11,
10086:1, 10093:20,
10096:34, 10103:37,
10107:30
helpful [4] - 10066:22,
10096:27, 10110:30,
10130:13
helps [1] - 10094:45
hepatitis [1] - 10107:27
heroin [2] - 10102:44,
10107:22
herself [2] - 10081:37,
10126:19
hesitated [1] - 10083:47
hid [1] - 10084:32
hide [2] - 10091:12,
10092:20
hiding [7] - 10028:21,
10029:24, 10074:18,
10091:10, 10091:39,
10091:44, 10098:35
hidings [1] - 10092:4
high [8] - 10044:17,
10048:7, 10057:36,
10057:38, 10061:15,
10074:43, 10078:1,
10102:36
High [2] - 10084:17,
10101:33
highlight [1] - 10024:7
himself [4] - 10070:21,
10070:27, 10070:29
hip [1] - 10107:25
history [3] - 10023:37,
10093:33, 10117:3
hit [16] - 10055:37,
10058:13, 10062:40,
10070:38, 10075:5,
10083:28, 10089:32,
10090:47, 10091:2,
10091:4, 10094:20,
10094:21, 10098:27,
10098:28, 10098:31
hobbies [1] - 10077:32
hold [3] - 10056:27,
10057:1, 10103:16
Holden [3] - 10060:24,
10061:28, 10062:33
holding [2] - 10028:42,
10055:26
holiday [2] - 10058:6,
10058:18
holidays [5] - 10058:2,
10063:31, 10063:38,
10063:45, 10070:20
Home [10] - 10022:39,
10025:36, 10029:30,
10051:11, 10054:8,
10074:3, 10081:3,
10090:5, 10097:38,
10106:12
home [39] - 10022:44,
10023:2, 10024:27,
10024:28, 10024:33,
10024:44, 10025:10,
10025:17, 10025:23,
10030:22, 10031:38,
10031:39, 10033:39,
10054:4, 10054:30,
10054:44, 10055:2,
10057:5, 10058:17,
10061:16, 10061:27,
10061:30, 10061:37,
10061:41, 10062:3,
10062:6, 10063:11,
10063:40, 10065:20,
10069:24, 10076:21,
10083:12, 10089:35,
10092:28, 10098:2,
10098:6, 10102:9,
10106:20
homesick [1] - 10084:22
honest [1] - 10039:14
Honour [59] - 10022:1,
10022:6, 10022:12,
10022:18, 10022:21,
10022:27, 10022:28,
10022:31, 10022:36,
10035:47, 10049:16,
10050:14, 10051:24,
10052:5, 10053:1,
10071:36, 10071:41,
10071:43, 10072:3,
10072:4, 10072:7,
10072:16, 10072:34,
10072:39, 10073:14,
10079:45, 10080:5,
10088:38, 10088:41,
10096:42, 10096:44,
10096:46, 10104:31,
10104:37, 10110:47,
10111:9, 10112:10,
10112:22, 10112:26,
10112:34, 10121:35,
10122:25, 10122:37,
10123:16, 10123:23,
10123:27, 10124:6,
10124:7, 10124:33,
10125:42, 10125:44,
10126:3, 10127:31,
10127:36, 10127:40,
10130:6, 10130:18,
10130:24, 10130:30
Honour's [3] - 10049:40,
10072:22, 10080:10
hoped [1] - 10117:35
hopeful [2] - 10117:19,
10117:33
hoping [3] - 10063:26,
10092:21, 10096:20
horrible [3] - 10028:7,
10102:31, 10104:45
hospital [6] - 10062:13,
10070:30, 10081:33,
10097:30, 10097:36,
10100:20
Hospital [2] - 10053:34,
10097:43
hospitalised [1] 10084:45
hot [1] - 10070:37
hour [4] - 10057:13,
10072:31, 10130:25
hours [1] - 10107:42
house [49] - 10054:34,
10054:40, 10054:41,
10054:42, 10055:7,
10055:8, 10056:3,
10056:15, 10056:34,
10056:35, 10056:37,
10056:38, 10058:23,
10058:25, 10059:1,
10059:27, 10063:15,
10063:23, 10063:33,
10063:36, 10063:37,
10063:40, 10074:8,
10081:22, 10081:24,
10081:27, 10081:28,
10081:37, 10082:4,
10082:18, 10082:19,
10082:28, 10082:32,
10089:37, 10090:13,
10090:15, 10092:16,
10094:33, 10098:7,
10098:15, 10098:20,
10098:21, 10098:30,
10099:11, 10099:35,
10099:36, 10100:10,
10106:36
household [2] - 10058:32,
10065:34
housemaid [1] - 10065:7
houses [6] - 10027:25,
10065:13, 10081:22,
10090:12, 10098:6,
10098:19
HT [2] - 10061:28,
10062:33
hug [1] - 10040:21
hugging [1] - 10040:13
hugs [1] - 10108:31
hung [1] - 10108:2
hurt [9] - 10055:15,
10055:21, 10055:29,
10067:12, 10088:21,
10092:15, 10099:21,
10099:46, 10109:2
husband [17] - 10023:1,
10054:36, 10058:45,
10081:21, 10084:39,
10084:47, 10085:3,
10085:7, 10086:3,
10101:7, 10106:16,
10107:47, 10108:1,
10108:5, 10108:6,
10108:9
hygiene [2] - 10065:33,
10083:40
hysterectomy [1] 10063:4
I
I-III [1] - 10034:17
Ian [2] - 10022:19,
10049:11
ice [1] - 10071:12
idea [5] - 10038:47,
10056:14, 10078:31,
10087:2, 10103:9
identified [2] - 10073:14,
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10121:47
identify [2] - 10077:40,
10122:40
identifying [1] - 10123:45
III [1] - 10034:17
ill [1] - 10064:20
imagine [1] - 10069:32
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impact [3] - 10050:28,
10119:19
importance [1] - 10117:11
important [5] - 10025:11,
10050:46, 10070:31,
10125:33, 10125:34
impose [1] - 10043:21
imposed [1] - 10043:33
impression [2] - 10038:9,
10125:4
imprint [1] - 10070:40
imprisonment [2] 10033:9, 10033:10
in-ground [1] - 10064:42
in-home [1] - 10062:6
inadequate [1] - 10036:33
inappropriately [1] 10091:43
incapacitated [1] 10120:45
incapacity [1] - 10076:33
incentive [1] - 10113:32
incident [13] - 10027:29,
10040:28, 10055:43,
10058:4, 10058:40,
10091:22, 10094:15,
10095:25, 10099:7,
10099:23, 10099:27,
10100:5, 10100:13
incidents [4] - 10027:42,
10086:42, 10094:30,
10100:34
include [1] - 10115:13
included [2] - 10062:11,
10090:20
includes [2] - 10115:15,
10115:16
including [14] - 10024:9,
10026:14, 10027:29,
10027:41, 10028:39,
10031:1, 10031:17,
10036:40, 10038:34,
10045:10, 10048:26,
10077:24, 10107:38,
10119:31
increased [1] - 10079:3
incurred [1] - 10113:5
indecency [3] - 10032:43,
10032:45, 10033:1
indecently [1] - 10032:11
independent [1] - 10041:8
indicate [1] - 10048:29
indicated [5] - 10033:16,
10037:34, 10041:45,
10044:5, 10127:41
indication [1] - 10120:6
indifferent [1] - 10055:24
individual [2] - 10045:5,
10129:13
individually [1] - 10129:16
inference [1] - 10033:33
inflicted [1] - 10084:46
inform [1] - 10112:34
information [2] 10029:10, 10030:41
informed [5] - 10095:32,
10105:2, 10106:8,
10109:24, 10129:39
informing [1] - 10109:39
Ingram [1] - 10045:28
initial [2] - 10030:1,
10039:43
injected [1] - 10107:24
injuries [1] - 10084:46
injury [3] - 10039:19,
10108:8, 10110:1
inquire [1] - 10023:23
inquiries [1] - 10029:37
inquiring [1] - 10037:46
inside [6] - 10055:20,
10059:13, 10061:42,
10061:43, 10065:30,
10102:33
insisted [2] - 10059:7,
10062:25
inspected [1] - 10024:40
instances [1] - 10026:13
institution [1] - 10025:13
INSTITUTIONAL [1] 10021:12
Institutional [6] 10053:24, 10073:33,
10080:30, 10089:10,
10097:15, 10105:36
instruct [2] - 10043:20,
10047:6
instructed [4] - 10039:33,
10047:40, 10047:44,
10059:18
instructing [2] - 10059:37,
10080:13
instructions [15] 10035:28, 10036:39,
10043:29, 10043:31,
10043:32, 10045:16,
10045:19, 10045:29,
10045:45, 10046:9,
10046:26, 10046:46,
10048:11, 10128:23,
10129:12
integrity [1] - 10033:37
intending [1] - 10035:23
intention [1] - 10047:2
intercourse [7] 10026:17, 10026:42,
10027:43, 10074:40,
10076:28, 10076:30,
10078:9
interest [2] - 10077:32,
10119:26
interested [4] - 10037:38,
10039:34, 10119:28,
10128:34
interference [1] 10040:26
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interlocutory [2] 10036:40, 10119:30
interrupted [1] - 10027:26
interview [15] - 10027:5,
10029:14, 10029:28,
10029:31, 10029:44,
10030:1, 10030:3,
10030:10, 10030:15,
10032:6, 10032:9,
10075:44, 10095:13,
10095:16
interviewed [3] - 10030:2,
10032:22, 10032:29
intimacy [1] - 10028:41
intimidating [1] - 10068:7
INTO [1] - 10021:12
intoxicated [1] - 10103:12
investigate [1] - 10031:7
investigated [1] - 10032:4
investigation [5] 10030:35, 10032:4,
10032:30, 10044:25,
10103:19
investigations [5] 10039:13, 10046:15,
10121:42, 10121:45,
10122:1
investigator [4] - 10042:8,
10046:14, 10120:34,
10120:35
invite [9] - 10022:31,
10047:7, 10047:38,
10052:43, 10053:17,
10073:30, 10080:24,
10089:4, 10105:32
involved [7] - 10023:2,
10074:18, 10076:16,
10078:17, 10091:1,
10102:19, 10117:16
involving [1] - 10045:4
iron [2] - 10070:37,
10081:33
ironing [1] - 10070:36
isolated [2] - 10058:34,
10065:10
issue [14] - 10036:13,
10043:5, 10043:17,
10044:11, 10046:9,
10050:46, 10066:47,
10068:12, 10112:9,
10119:20, 10124:41,
10125:5, 10125:13,
10127:31
issued [6] - 10025:5,
10035:7, 10046:21,
10118:15, 10118:27,
10127:15
issues [6] - 10024:8,
10038:45, 10038:47,
10077:8, 10079:2,
10096:2
it" [1] - 10091:37
J
jackaroo [1] - 10059:2
Jackson [1] - 10025:39
JANET [2] - 10111:12,
10111:31
Janet [5] - 10022:22,
10034:36, 10049:9,
10111:9, 10111:17
January [1] - 10025:31
jeans [1] - 10099:19
jigsaw [1] - 10075:38
job [5] - 10068:47,
10076:41, 10090:44,
10118:33, 10119:19
jobs [4] - 10065:6,
10091:5, 10093:22,
10101:26
JODIE [2] - 10073:1,
10073:20
Jodie [20] - 10026:30,
10029:22, 10031:46,
10032:40, 10033:5,
10033:10, 10034:46,
10039:13, 10039:23,
10039:26, 10049:8,
10072:3, 10072:43,
10073:6, 10073:41,
10079:47, 10084:23,
10084:30, 10084:34,
10084:35
John [3] - 10032:29,
10069:4, 10115:45
Johnson [5] - 10034:10,
10034:21, 10086:1,
10086:9, 10086:14
joinder [1] - 10112:28
judge [7] - 10035:45,
10036:4, 10046:8,
10046:30, 10046:36,
10047:1
Judge [8] - 10112:25,
10112:26, 10121:36,
10125:44, 10126:12,
10126:23, 10127:32,
10127:33
judging [1] - 10067:31
judgment [3] - 10045:35,
10046:36, 10047:21
judicial [2] - 10035:15,
10039:31
jug [6] - 10065:17,
10070:39, 10083:26,
10091:1, 10091:11,
10106:35
July [8] - 10034:31,
10040:9, 10042:38,
10047:40, 10047:43,
10078:12, 10109:44,
10109:47
jumped [1] - 10055:21
jumpsuit [1] - 10100:11
June [18] - 10025:15,
10032:5, 10034:13,
10034:20, 10036:3,
10036:7, 10036:18,
10036:21, 10039:16,
10039:30, 10039:41,
10039:47, 10042:16,
10045:16, 10047:24,
10047:32, 10112:29,
10112:31
Jungfer [4] - 10086:26,
10110:21, 10116:32,
10116:42
junior [4] - 10035:4,
10037:14, 10047:34,
10116:3
jury [2] - 10039:25,
10041:27
Justice [2] - 10021:33,
10049:14
justice [7] - 10034:42,
10067:25, 10068:10,
10069:20, 10079:21,
10088:28, 10113:4
K
Kate [5] - 10072:45,
10081:40, 10098:23,
10099:33, 10105:25
KATHLEEN [2] 10051:28, 10052:9
Kathleen [21] - 10026:2,
10032:36, 10033:22,
10033:31, 10033:35,
10034:46, 10035:10,
10042:42, 10042:47,
10043:6, 10044:11,
10044:29, 10044:47,
10045:34, 10048:18,
10049:8, 10051:24,
10051:39, 10053:28,
10071:45, 10126:16
Kathryn [1] - 10039:47
Kaye [1] - 10029:43
keep [4] - 10049:3,
10060:23, 10067:9,
10067:13
keeping [1] - 10025:21
Kell [1] - 10022:13
Kelly [2] - 10032:6,
10034:13
Kempsey [1] - 10093:16
kept [10] - 10055:3,
10055:20, 10058:25,
10070:46, 10079:33,
10079:36, 10091:16,
10102:35, 10105:2,
10107:6
Kevin [1] - 10082:46
kicked [1] - 10063:45
kidney [1] - 10062:4
kids [13] - 10069:22,
10069:24, 10069:42,
10069:43, 10070:7,
10075:38, 10084:20,
10090:27, 10090:44,
10098:9, 10098:47,
10099:33, 10104:17
kindergarten [1] 10098:44
kinds [1] - 10086:39
kiss [7] - 10027:26,
10040:22, 10056:25,
10056:39, 10060:5,
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10061:2, 10082:23
kissing [1] - 10040:13
kitchen [1] - 10060:12
KL [1] - 10030:31
knee [1] - 10060:2
knees [1] - 10062:35
Knight [20] - 10022:19,
10028:23, 10028:34,
10030:27, 10030:40,
10031:24, 10032:31,
10034:47, 10040:12,
10040:17, 10040:28,
10043:6, 10049:9,
10049:11, 10104:33,
10104:34, 10105:13,
10105:33, 10105:40,
10117:2
KNIGHT [2] - 10105:8,
10105:22
Knight" [1] - 10030:34
Knight's [1] - 10030:28
knitted [1] - 10100:11
knock [1] - 10040:39
knocked [2] - 10056:9,
10059:35
knocking [2] - 10060:38,
10077:24
knowing [3] - 10067:19,
10070:44, 10103:38
knowledge [12] - 10034:7,
10053:26, 10054:29,
10073:34, 10080:33,
10089:13, 10097:18,
10105:37, 10116:6,
10119:27, 10125:20,
10129:43
known [3] - 10023:6,
10083:16, 10084:13
knows [3] - 10058:31,
10064:29, 10095:10
Knox [4] - 10035:45,
10036:4, 10112:27
Kylie [1] - 10032:8
L
lack [3] - 10033:23,
10036:28, 10095:44
ladies [2] - 10050:12,
10129:44
lady [2] - 10063:13,
10068:42
laid [2] - 10029:46,
10064:21
Land [1] - 10074:47
Lands [2] - 10024:32,
10025:5
language [1] - 10114:9
lap [3] - 10059:4, 10059:7,
10059:21
large [4] - 10075:4,
10077:34, 10098:7,
10110:33
last [11] - 10056:43,
10057:4, 10063:4,
10071:8, 10085:11,
10085:14, 10095:38,
10103:31, 10104:37,
10104:38, 10110:32
lasted [1] - 10084:41
late [8] - 10027:47,
10028:1, 10028:3,
10032:16, 10066:28,
10079:25, 10100:9,
10100:18
launch [1] - 10046:46
laundry [3] - 10060:11,
10060:12, 10092:7
law [3] - 10029:39,
10115:13, 10115:14
lawyer [1] - 10067:44
lawyers [15] - 10037:39,
10038:14, 10038:44,
10066:35, 10066:44,
10068:32, 10068:40,
10069:8, 10078:28,
10079:3, 10086:10,
10087:4, 10087:9,
10103:43, 10110:17
lay [11] - 10055:17,
10055:27, 10055:28,
10055:32, 10063:41,
10099:13, 10099:19,
10099:21, 10099:37,
10099:39, 10106:21
lead [3] - 10026:25,
10037:29, 10116:2
leading [3] - 10060:12,
10091:29, 10129:25
leap [1] - 10040:24
learn [2] - 10050:34,
10065:5
learned [6] - 10022:13,
10024:30, 10026:47,
10055:39, 10075:19,
10086:5
lease [3] - 10024:20,
10025:31, 10025:32
least [8] - 10023:4,
10029:3, 10039:42,
10041:23, 10044:7,
10044:47, 10119:29,
10122:17
leave [13] - 10022:9,
10022:13, 10022:22,
10022:24, 10031:8,
10046:47, 10057:29,
10063:11, 10063:36,
10092:36, 10106:27,
10127:46, 10128:3
leaving [7] - 10063:23,
10065:6, 10085:10,
10097:36, 10097:41,
10107:17, 10108:22
led [2] - 10028:18,
10070:9
Lee [1] - 10066:4
left [22] - 10026:36,
10055:4, 10056:43,
10058:25, 10062:2,
10062:7, 10062:8,
10062:17, 10062:19,
10065:20, 10068:27,
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10074:16, 10074:27,
10076:38, 10092:33,
10093:28, 10100:32,
10101:22, 10101:34,
10106:45
Legal [54] - 10034:37,
10034:38, 10035:2,
10035:21, 10035:32,
10036:26, 10036:32,
10037:15, 10037:45,
10038:6, 10038:10,
10038:35, 10043:3,
10043:7, 10044:1,
10044:23, 10044:34,
10066:7, 10066:8,
10069:8, 10078:28,
10079:32, 10079:36,
10083:1, 10086:10,
10087:35, 10095:33,
10095:43, 10096:13,
10096:26, 10103:43,
10104:6, 10104:22,
10104:47, 10106:40,
10109:15, 10109:36,
10110:13, 10110:20,
10110:26, 10112:47,
10113:5, 10113:8,
10113:28, 10114:19,
10114:20, 10114:45,
10114:47, 10115:34,
10121:40, 10127:18,
10129:39, 10129:43,
10130:7
legal [17] - 10034:39,
10034:41, 10038:45,
10038:46, 10038:47,
10045:8, 10045:12,
10066:21, 10066:42,
10113:1, 10113:2,
10113:5, 10114:29,
10116:18, 10127:2,
10127:29, 10130:4
legally [1] - 10113:38
legislation [1] - 10048:44
legitimate [1] - 10033:32
legs [7] - 10055:13,
10061:34, 10061:36,
10075:7, 10091:4,
10098:32, 10100:16
length [1] - 10072:9
lengthy [3] - 10035:8,
10117:28, 10117:32
LEONIE [2] - 10105:8,
10105:22
Leonie [15] - 10028:23,
10030:27, 10030:34,
10030:40, 10031:24,
10032:31, 10034:47,
10040:12, 10040:17,
10040:28, 10043:6,
10049:9, 10104:33,
10105:13, 10105:40
less [2] - 10068:6,
10110:40
letter [9] - 10031:23,
10036:7, 10037:9,
10037:12, 10037:19,
10037:35, 10038:20,
10038:30, 10043:6
letters [1] - 10114:8
letting [1] - 10087:41
Level [1] - 10021:21
liability [6] - 10039:1,
10039:17, 10045:32,
10046:38, 10047:11,
10118:42
liable [2] - 10034:5,
10034:6
liar [8] - 10026:10,
10066:36, 10066:38,
10067:6, 10086:46,
10095:25, 10095:26,
10100:24
liars [2] - 10057:17,
10067:23
licence [3] - 10025:18,
10025:34, 10078:14
licensed [2] - 10023:5,
10025:36
licensing [1] - 10024:42
licked [1] - 10060:4
lie [2] - 10055:38,
10058:24
lied [1] - 10057:21
lies" [1] - 10030:16
lies' [1] - 10056:14
life [33] - 10070:11,
10070:26, 10071:17,
10071:19, 10071:27,
10077:3, 10077:14,
10077:32, 10077:33,
10077:34, 10078:39,
10084:5, 10084:6,
10085:24, 10086:25,
10086:32, 10087:29,
10089:19, 10093:35,
10093:46, 10094:8,
10094:10, 10094:25,
10096:35, 10101:40,
10107:34, 10107:43,
10107:44, 10108:18,
10108:22, 10108:28,
10108:36, 10108:40
lifted [2] - 10056:8,
10108:9
light [4] - 10033:15,
10056:36, 10056:38,
10056:41
likely [5] - 10046:8,
10047:36, 10120:8,
10121:23, 10127:42
limit [1] - 10095:47
Limitation [3] - 10035:36,
10119:32, 10120:12
limitation [33] - 10024:10,
10034:29, 10035:24,
10035:29, 10035:37,
10036:41, 10040:40,
10041:19, 10041:41,
10042:17, 10042:20,
10043:5, 10043:17,
10043:25, 10043:30,
10044:7, 10044:10,
10044:20, 10044:29,
10044:46, 10046:9,
10046:10, 10046:27,
10046:42, 10048:30,
10067:1, 10067:4,
10067:17, 10067:39,
10068:34, 10120:1,
10120:7, 10125:11
limited [3] - 10065:6,
10114:2, 10114:21
limits [1] - 10078:32
Lisarow [1] - 10101:33
list [1] - 10039:38
listed [4] - 10035:14,
10036:45, 10039:30,
10042:15
listen [2] - 10050:18,
10051:34
listening [1] - 10119:40
listing [1] - 10041:17
litigant [6] - 10024:2,
10024:9, 10037:27,
10048:32, 10048:33,
10111:41
litigation [55] - 10022:41,
10023:36, 10024:3,
10024:6, 10024:9,
10024:11, 10026:27,
10033:44, 10037:47,
10048:25, 10050:31,
10050:33, 10050:42,
10051:2, 10051:4,
10051:8, 10066:23,
10066:30, 10066:41,
10067:8, 10067:27,
10067:28, 10069:35,
10070:43, 10070:46,
10071:32, 10079:20,
10087:22, 10087:29,
10087:33, 10088:4,
10088:9, 10096:14,
10096:20, 10096:34,
10104:11, 10104:18,
10110:19, 10110:29,
10110:31, 10113:7,
10113:11, 10113:38,
10114:6, 10114:24,
10114:36, 10114:37,
10114:45, 10114:47,
10117:29, 10117:31,
10117:47, 10118:19,
10119:13, 10119:30
live [12] - 10033:25,
10054:13, 10058:37,
10063:28, 10081:8,
10084:26, 10085:6,
10087:14, 10097:46,
10100:33, 10101:22,
10105:47
lived [24] - 10040:5,
10054:20, 10054:37,
10070:26, 10074:8,
10076:11, 10077:17,
10077:33, 10081:23,
10081:25, 10084:12,
10084:36, 10087:13,
10089:18, 10090:13,
10090:14, 10097:26,
10097:44, 10098:8,
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10098:14, 10105:47,
10106:1, 10113:43,
10114:12
lives [6] - 10028:39,
10050:29, 10071:14,
10087:19, 10093:14,
10107:39
living [14] - 10053:46,
10054:10, 10054:34,
10058:16, 10064:32,
10069:23, 10069:47,
10075:23, 10077:34,
10081:11, 10084:35,
10098:25, 10101:32
Lloyd [16] - 10021:39,
10022:25, 10049:30,
10051:36, 10052:45,
10072:18, 10088:34,
10096:39, 10104:28,
10112:20, 10119:25,
10122:21, 10123:12,
10124:31, 10125:39,
10130:28
LLOYD [68] - 10022:1,
10022:27, 10022:36,
10049:22, 10049:32,
10049:38, 10049:47,
10050:8, 10051:24,
10051:30, 10051:38,
10051:47, 10052:5,
10052:12, 10053:1,
10053:8, 10053:13,
10053:17, 10071:35,
10072:3, 10072:16,
10072:22, 10072:27,
10072:34, 10072:39,
10072:43, 10073:3,
10073:5, 10073:14,
10073:23, 10079:38,
10080:5, 10080:24,
10088:38, 10089:4,
10096:42, 10104:31,
10104:41, 10105:10,
10105:12, 10105:25,
10110:43, 10111:9,
10111:14, 10111:16,
10111:27, 10111:34,
10112:22, 10112:34,
10112:41, 10115:44,
10119:36, 10119:43,
10122:25, 10122:30,
10122:35, 10123:16,
10123:21, 10123:27,
10123:33, 10123:38,
10124:6, 10124:33,
10124:40, 10125:41,
10128:15, 10130:13,
10130:30
local [3] - 10024:22,
10024:37, 10076:45
locate [9] - 10042:10,
10042:11, 10046:16,
10122:2, 10122:18,
10126:31, 10126:36,
10127:24
located [9] - 10032:6,
10054:31, 10098:4,
10113:42, 10113:44,
10122:37, 10123:21,
10124:34, 10130:34
locked [4] - 10056:24,
10060:37, 10060:47,
10106:7
lodged [1] - 10127:42
logistical [3] - 10113:39,
10113:40, 10129:18
logistically [1] - 10113:38
lollies [3] - 10099:10,
10099:12, 10099:35
look [16] - 10061:27,
10062:30, 10062:38,
10063:32, 10076:15,
10076:32, 10081:9,
10091:30, 10093:38,
10094:19, 10102:1,
10107:37, 10108:25,
10122:40, 10125:20,
10130:3
looked [3] - 10063:16,
10078:26, 10087:39
looking [14] - 10041:11,
10053:2, 10061:29,
10064:2, 10066:36,
10077:19, 10086:37,
10089:26, 10092:21,
10107:22, 10111:42,
10112:13, 10112:14,
10112:15
looks [1] - 10124:28
Lord [1] - 10064:29
lose [1] - 10068:35
losing [1] - 10118:33
lost [5] - 10046:17,
10054:23, 10068:14,
10077:42, 10110:32
loud [1] - 10060:38
loudly [1] - 10055:24
LOUGHMAN [2] 10111:12, 10111:31
Loughman [17] 10022:22, 10034:37,
10049:9, 10111:9,
10111:17, 10111:34,
10112:44, 10119:45,
10122:32, 10123:41,
10124:10, 10124:35,
10124:45, 10128:16,
10129:31, 10130:14,
10130:32
Loughman's [1] 10124:30
lounge [3] - 10055:11,
10055:14, 10055:36
love [4] - 10057:44,
10058:34, 10069:24,
10071:24
loved [3] - 10054:24,
10071:20, 10080:40
low [2] - 10059:25,
10065:25
lunch [1] - 10072:37
luncheon [2] - 10072:19,
10072:29
LUNCHEON [1] 10072:41
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10103:26
lying [3] - 10057:10,
10106:23, 10106:25
lying" [1] - 10092:1
M
machine [1] - 10092:8
Macquarie [1] - 10021:21
Madden [17] - 10029:7,
10029:28, 10029:36,
10030:12, 10030:21,
10032:23, 10032:24,
10039:8, 10039:9,
10039:11, 10075:27,
10083:4, 10083:6,
10089:42, 10121:24,
10121:27, 10125:23
Madden's [1] - 10030:18
magistrate [1] - 10024:29
main [4] - 10054:34,
10054:40, 10054:41,
10074:8
Maitland [3] - 10084:12,
10084:17, 10084:30
major [1] - 10065:28
majority [1] - 10037:37
man [8] - 10056:38,
10068:29, 10069:36,
10070:3, 10071:25,
10089:42, 10090:20,
10101:42
man's [1] - 10071:27
managed [1] - 10126:31
manager [1] - 10030:44
manner [4] - 10024:1,
10024:18, 10040:21,
10041:24
Manollaras [33] 10034:17, 10035:3,
10036:20, 10037:3,
10037:9, 10037:12,
10037:19, 10039:5,
10039:33, 10039:41,
10040:9, 10040:11,
10040:16, 10040:31,
10040:36, 10040:42,
10041:2, 10041:5,
10041:7, 10041:11,
10041:16, 10041:18,
10041:29, 10041:40,
10042:29, 10042:38,
10042:40, 10042:45,
10043:14, 10043:35,
10043:42, 10045:23,
10046:41
Manollaras' [1] - 10041:44
March [10] - 10024:46,
10025:2, 10029:7,
10029:16, 10030:15,
10039:7, 10039:11,
10041:29, 10105:42,
10121:28
Margaret [1] - 10085:47
Marie [1] - 10109:43
marijuana [1] - 10107:18
Marilyn [4] - 10063:13,
10063:14, 10063:19,
10063:26
mark [1] - 10042:33
markets [1] - 10062:30
marriage [3] - 10084:41,
10084:43, 10086:7
married [8] - 10062:6,
10063:34, 10084:39,
10090:17, 10097:47,
10098:16, 10101:20,
10107:46
Mary [1] - 10048:13
matter [23] - 10029:41,
10031:14, 10031:33,
10035:11, 10037:10,
10038:27, 10038:38,
10042:18, 10044:38,
10045:20, 10046:1,
10047:26, 10047:34,
10047:43, 10047:46,
10066:26, 10076:26,
10101:12, 10114:42,
10115:15, 10117:35,
10117:46, 10121:4
matter" [1] - 10047:30
matters [7] - 10023:24,
10033:25, 10035:47,
10036:40, 10039:32,
10041:17, 10113:33
maximum [1] - 10048:42
Maxwell [13] - 10042:8,
10046:14, 10046:22,
10120:35, 10120:38,
10122:10, 10122:16,
10122:23, 10123:19,
10124:3, 10126:23,
10126:40, 10127:22
Maxwell's [4] - 10121:24,
10121:41, 10124:46,
10125:7
McClellan [1] - 10021:33
McClung [1] - 10124:42
McMahon [2] - 10029:43,
10029:44
meals [1] - 10087:41
mean [1] - 10127:8
meaning [1] - 10035:35
meaningful [1] - 10068:44
means [2] - 10118:6,
10124:15
mediate [6] - 10038:35,
10038:36, 10042:26,
10044:6, 10048:31,
10117:36
mediating [2] - 10038:37,
10044:3
mediation [48] - 10023:38,
10023:40, 10037:27,
10037:47, 10038:7,
10038:11, 10038:21,
10038:24, 10038:42,
10039:32, 10039:34,
10042:22, 10043:8,
10043:9, 10043:16,
10043:21, 10043:26,
10043:33, 10043:36,
10043:39, 10044:2,
10044:46, 10047:8,
10047:35, 10047:45,
10048:10, 10048:12,
10048:14, 10048:15,
10052:36, 10068:32,
10068:38, 10068:42,
10071:7, 10078:45,
10087:40, 10088:11,
10117:20, 10117:32,
10128:5, 10128:12,
10128:18, 10129:3,
10129:7, 10129:16,
10129:23, 10129:25
mediator [1] - 10048:14
medical [3] - 10038:26,
10062:13, 10102:26
medication [4] - 10062:12,
10068:20, 10071:10,
10103:26
medico [1] - 10116:18
medico-legal [1] 10116:18
meds [1] - 10058:9
meet [5] - 10044:26,
10114:25, 10117:42,
10125:15, 10128:31
meeting [3] - 10083:11,
10086:14, 10130:10
meetings [2] - 10079:11,
10110:17
members [2] - 10078:5,
10106:18
memoranda [1] 10032:23
memorandum [11] 10029:29, 10029:30,
10030:12, 10030:25,
10030:33, 10030:34,
10033:29, 10045:7,
10045:9, 10045:29,
10047:5
memories [7] - 10028:7,
10068:19, 10079:7,
10087:24, 10102:41,
10103:20, 10104:45
memory [3] - 10054:4,
10055:8, 10085:31
men [2] - 10094:14,
10108:6
mental [6] - 10028:40,
10039:19, 10070:30,
10078:37, 10108:15,
10109:13
mention [1] - 10086:24
mentioned [1] - 10064:2
MENZIES [10] - 10022:12,
10022:18, 10050:40,
10071:43, 10079:43,
10104:37, 10111:2,
10130:6, 10130:20,
10130:24
Menzies [2] - 10050:8,
10050:38
merely [1] - 10128:44
meriting [1] - 10042:35
merits [1] - 10048:28
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met [6] - 10048:32,
10071:5, 10097:31,
10101:42, 10102:4,
10109:14
methadone [1] - 10107:19
methodology [1] 10122:40
methods [1] - 10047:26
Michael [2] - 10049:9,
10049:12
microphone [1] 10051:33
mid-2008 [1] - 10023:37
mid-40s [1] - 10064:44
middle [2] - 10074:16,
10081:37
might [32] - 10036:16,
10037:11, 10037:29,
10038:23, 10038:36,
10039:32, 10042:20,
10042:26, 10049:17,
10049:24, 10049:38,
10053:1, 10056:40,
10068:17, 10072:27,
10073:23, 10078:25,
10078:29, 10078:32,
10087:5, 10091:5,
10092:6, 10092:15,
10095:43, 10096:6,
10096:9, 10104:23,
10110:14, 10112:20,
10116:7, 10118:38,
10121:1
mile [1] - 10054:44
miles [3] - 10054:32,
10065:11, 10098:5
Millhouse [1] - 10032:8
million [3] - 10038:18,
10045:11, 10047:15
mind [5] - 10068:33,
10075:38, 10076:26,
10078:38, 10102:34
mine [3] - 10059:9,
10108:14, 10114:39
mingle [1] - 10092:47
minimise [1] - 10050:32
minimum" [1] - 10037:35
Minister [2] - 10024:21,
10025:38
minister [1] - 10037:20
minor [1] - 10092:5
minute [1] - 10072:9
minutes [3] - 10060:38,
10063:43, 10130:25
miserably [1] - 10076:33
miss [1] - 10053:41
missing [1] - 10121:24
Mission [1] - 10024:20
mission [3] - 10024:21,
10024:34, 10025:31
model [6] - 10024:2,
10024:9, 10037:27,
10048:32, 10048:33,
10111:41
moderate [1] - 10085:12
modest [2] - 10041:45,
10128:27
molested [1] - 10041:23
molesting [1] - 10100:28
moment [6] - 10087:20,
10113:40, 10123:40,
10124:2, 10124:7,
10125:42
Monaro [1] - 10060:24
monetary [1] - 10128:35
money [23] - 10041:46,
10052:30, 10061:32,
10062:25, 10062:29,
10062:30, 10063:13,
10063:25, 10067:24,
10069:10, 10069:15,
10069:17, 10078:12,
10083:42, 10088:8,
10088:9, 10088:18,
10095:38, 10096:33,
10104:23, 10110:30,
10110:31
mongrel' [1] - 10075:11
MONICA [2] - 10051:28,
10052:9
Monica [1] - 10053:28
monitoring [1] - 10023:25
month [5] - 10025:30,
10076:6, 10094:41,
10099:31, 10106:11
months [17] - 10025:17,
10027:37, 10068:16,
10069:33, 10074:6,
10075:19, 10076:10,
10076:11, 10077:30,
10084:18, 10084:29,
10085:19, 10097:30,
10097:39, 10102:11,
10121:43
months' [1] - 10038:38
Moore [46] - 10026:30,
10026:33, 10027:3,
10027:5, 10027:12,
10027:17, 10027:32,
10029:19, 10029:22,
10031:17, 10031:18,
10031:46, 10032:1,
10032:40, 10032:41,
10033:5, 10033:10,
10034:46, 10034:47,
10039:13, 10039:14,
10039:24, 10039:26,
10049:8, 10072:3,
10072:5, 10072:25,
10072:27, 10072:32,
10072:43, 10072:44,
10073:5, 10073:6,
10073:23, 10073:41,
10079:41, 10080:6,
10080:9, 10080:35,
10088:35, 10088:44,
10090:38, 10116:40,
10119:8, 10119:12
MOORE [3] - 10073:1,
10073:20, 10080:19
Moore's [1] - 10080:13
morning [11] - 10047:35,
10056:22, 10057:12,
10059:31, 10059:45,
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10060:10, 10091:9,
10098:47, 10106:9,
10121:26, 10130:38
morphine [1] - 10107:18
most [15] - 10025:10,
10038:46, 10042:5,
10052:17, 10063:30,
10068:39, 10069:24,
10074:37, 10075:35,
10077:32, 10081:23,
10093:14, 10098:7,
10108:38, 10114:2
mostly [1] - 10098:28
mother [32] - 10027:20,
10028:11, 10054:5,
10058:44, 10059:22,
10059:26, 10064:33,
10070:7, 10073:45,
10080:43, 10080:45,
10081:1, 10085:27,
10089:28, 10097:26,
10097:28, 10097:36,
10097:40, 10097:41,
10097:46, 10100:33,
10101:20, 10101:23,
10101:24, 10101:28,
10101:39, 10101:41,
10102:1, 10103:33,
10106:1, 10106:8
mother's [2] - 10054:16,
10090:39
motion [32] - 10035:10,
10035:18, 10035:33,
10035:40, 10035:44,
10041:19, 10041:41,
10042:20, 10044:24,
10044:29, 10044:31,
10046:3, 10046:23,
10046:31, 10046:32,
10046:37, 10112:27,
10119:31, 10119:47,
10120:5, 10120:11,
10120:17, 10120:20,
10120:24, 10120:33,
10121:4, 10121:16,
10121:21, 10125:11,
10125:14, 10125:43,
10126:7
motions [5] - 10046:20,
10126:22, 10127:5,
10127:10, 10127:19
motivated [1] - 10037:16
motorcycle [1] - 10053:40
mouth [7] - 10026:16,
10056:26, 10056:29,
10060:4, 10060:24,
10061:2, 10061:9
move [8] - 10031:38,
10057:37, 10057:41,
10060:3, 10071:14,
10087:27, 10087:28,
10096:34
moved [18] - 10024:19,
10031:37, 10031:39,
10053:47, 10054:38,
10054:46, 10055:7,
10057:46, 10057:47,
10058:5, 10058:42,
10061:34, 10067:41,
10084:20, 10099:40,
10101:38, 10102:11
mover [1] - 10128:11
MR [78] - 10022:1,
10022:12, 10022:18,
10022:27, 10022:36,
10049:22, 10049:32,
10049:38, 10049:47,
10050:8, 10050:40,
10051:24, 10051:30,
10051:38, 10051:47,
10052:5, 10052:12,
10053:1, 10053:8,
10053:13, 10053:17,
10071:35, 10071:43,
10072:3, 10072:16,
10072:22, 10072:27,
10072:34, 10072:39,
10072:43, 10073:3,
10073:5, 10073:14,
10073:23, 10079:38,
10079:43, 10080:5,
10080:24, 10088:38,
10089:4, 10096:42,
10104:31, 10104:37,
10104:41, 10105:10,
10105:12, 10105:25,
10110:43, 10111:2,
10111:9, 10111:14,
10111:16, 10111:27,
10111:34, 10112:22,
10112:34, 10112:41,
10115:44, 10119:36,
10119:43, 10122:25,
10122:30, 10122:35,
10123:16, 10123:21,
10123:27, 10123:33,
10123:38, 10124:6,
10124:33, 10124:40,
10125:41, 10128:15,
10130:6, 10130:13,
10130:20, 10130:24,
10130:30
MS [15] - 10022:6,
10022:21, 10050:14,
10053:22, 10069:30,
10071:41, 10079:45,
10080:26, 10088:32,
10089:6, 10096:37,
10097:11, 10104:26,
10110:47, 10130:18
multiple [2] - 10077:13,
10123:3
mum [6] - 10054:21,
10054:24, 10068:22,
10074:12, 10089:35,
10098:37
Murphy [1] - 10109:43
must [1] - 10082:45
N
naked [1] - 10103:1
name [15] - 10034:22,
10034:24, 10051:38,
10053:6, 10053:28,
10072:6, 10073:5,
10073:41, 10080:35,
10089:15, 10097:25,
10104:35, 10105:12,
10105:40, 10111:16
names [2] - 10122:41
Nan" [1] - 10098:12
nappy [2] - 10056:34,
10056:36
nature [3] - 10117:31,
10117:34, 10122:6
naughty [2] - 10055:26,
10055:32
near [1] - 10037:37
necessary [3] - 10044:26,
10050:2, 10114:11
neck [2] - 10027:26,
10082:23
need [10] - 10024:10,
10049:42, 10050:36,
10051:13, 10051:32,
10073:23, 10076:21,
10094:46, 10109:41,
10125:1
needed [11] - 10026:20,
10058:8, 10060:24,
10063:19, 10063:25,
10083:41, 10104:12,
10108:38, 10116:31,
10121:20, 10125:15
negative [1] - 10033:33
neighbourhood [1] 10082:8
nephew [2] - 10063:34,
10107:40
nephews [2] - 10071:17,
10071:21
nervous [3] - 10052:12,
10067:35, 10105:26
never [23] - 10050:27,
10058:30, 10060:27,
10063:7, 10064:22,
10065:11, 10065:12,
10068:24, 10069:27,
10071:14, 10082:9,
10082:12, 10083:19,
10083:30, 10083:36,
10083:39, 10084:18,
10088:27, 10092:40,
10093:12, 10094:19,
10097:30, 10100:20
New [26] - 10022:14,
10022:40, 10023:29,
10023:32, 10024:3,
10024:15, 10025:6,
10025:38, 10034:2,
10047:1, 10049:11,
10050:41, 10050:43,
10051:1, 10054:46,
10068:41, 10078:19,
10081:3, 10090:5,
10095:31, 10097:38,
10101:24, 10106:12,
10113:44, 10113:45,
10128:30
new [4] - 10024:33,
10054:40, 10054:42,
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10055:7
next [12] - 10033:44,
10054:42, 10058:17,
10058:20, 10059:45,
10063:37, 10080:5,
10087:28, 10088:40,
10096:44, 10105:25,
10106:9
nexus [1] - 10040:32
nice [1] - 10101:5
nickname [1] - 10090:11
niece [2] - 10064:33,
10106:16
nieces [2] - 10071:17,
10071:21
night [6] - 10029:23,
10055:8, 10056:33,
10092:19, 10092:21,
10106:7
nightmares [1] - 10108:46
nine [2] - 10054:31,
10056:33
no-one [5] - 10028:20,
10056:12, 10076:15,
10091:44, 10102:32
nobody [2] - 10094:8,
10107:15
noise [1] - 10110:24
noises [1] - 10042:26
nominated [1] - 10032:2
non [1] - 10039:23
non-admission [1] 10039:23
none [5] - 10066:43,
10067:17, 10071:1,
10071:11, 10094:39
nonetheless [1] - 10045:4
normal [4] - 10040:21,
10084:6, 10086:6,
10086:7
normally [1] - 10061:16
North [1] - 10033:39
Northern [1] - 10076:6
not-for-profit [1] 10034:39
note [2] - 10047:24,
10112:8
noted [16] - 10025:45,
10029:20, 10035:18,
10036:10, 10037:5,
10037:9, 10037:26,
10038:29, 10041:8,
10042:25, 10043:7,
10043:24, 10045:9,
10045:18, 10047:14,
10048:36
notes [4] - 10036:23,
10112:11, 10112:14,
10118:30
nothing [6] - 10026:20,
10057:16, 10063:21,
10066:15, 10094:22,
10130:11
notice [12] - 10035:33,
10035:40, 10035:44,
10047:2, 10094:5,
10104:37, 10112:27,
10120:18, 10120:20,
10121:17, 10125:10,
10125:14
notices [2] - 10046:3,
10126:7
notified [1] - 10049:1
noting [6] - 10034:21,
10036:39, 10037:47,
10043:15, 10045:24,
10047:33
November [12] 10030:43, 10032:9,
10036:47, 10037:3,
10037:5, 10037:32,
10037:44, 10045:42,
10046:4, 10046:5,
10047:47, 10080:37
nowhere [2] - 10037:37,
10057:6
NSW [8] - 10023:26,
10031:21, 10034:38,
10037:15, 10049:13,
10066:8, 10113:1
NSW' [1] - 10038:10
number [22] - 10022:38,
10022:42, 10024:8,
10025:46, 10027:28,
10029:5, 10029:13,
10032:39, 10037:36,
10042:9, 10050:32,
10057:3, 10074:39,
10094:13, 10095:2,
10098:31, 10101:25,
10113:41, 10121:47,
10123:4, 10124:19,
10127:5
numerous [1] - 10093:35
nurse [2] - 10062:6,
10101:25
nurses [1] - 10055:9
nursing [1] - 10097:42
Nyngan [3] - 10059:3,
10064:1, 10064:2
O
o'clock [1] - 10130:38
objection [1] - 10044:24
objective" [1] - 10043:1
obligation [1] - 10049:2
obligations [2] 10024:10, 10048:32
obliged [1] - 10037:26
observation [2] - 10038:6,
10121:31
observations [3] 10041:32, 10042:41,
10042:46
observed [2] - 10029:31,
10040:7
obsessive [1] - 10065:32
obtain [3] - 10046:22,
10121:40, 10129:8
obtained [2] - 10024:20,
10039:8
obvious [1] - 10054:10
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obviously [3] - 10113:21,
10113:41, 10125:5
occasion [15] - 10026:45,
10027:24, 10027:27,
10027:45, 10028:13,
10030:5, 10036:46,
10039:31, 10046:5,
10047:44, 10061:14,
10070:28, 10100:7,
10108:6, 10108:9
occasions [6] - 10027:40,
10029:5, 10095:3,
10097:44, 10111:41,
10114:22
occasions" [1] - 10111:45
occur [6] - 10036:18,
10048:10, 10111:23,
10114:15, 10117:32,
10117:41
occurred [8] - 10031:11,
10042:5, 10046:28,
10047:43, 10048:12,
10058:32, 10077:41,
10110:10
occurred" [1] - 10029:34
October [16] - 10021:27,
10025:2, 10025:37,
10030:47, 10033:4,
10036:31, 10036:33,
10036:38, 10036:46,
10045:34, 10045:37,
10051:41, 10064:16,
10077:19, 10105:15,
10111:19
OCTOBER [2] - 10052:10,
10130:41
OF [7] - 10052:9,
10073:20, 10080:19,
10089:2, 10097:9,
10105:22, 10111:31
offences [6] - 10032:39,
10033:8, 10033:10,
10033:13, 10078:8,
10078:15
offender [1] - 10032:2
offenders [1] - 10109:19
offer [23] - 10037:40,
10040:46, 10044:35,
10044:39, 10044:42,
10044:45, 10045:17,
10045:34, 10045:39,
10045:43, 10045:46,
10047:20, 10059:23,
10059:25, 10069:5,
10128:19, 10128:24,
10128:27, 10128:33,
10128:35, 10128:44,
10129:12, 10129:24
offer" [1] - 10047:38
offering [1] - 10099:35
offers [7] - 10036:42,
10045:5, 10045:13,
10045:30, 10069:3,
10128:18, 10129:13
office [5] - 10026:18,
10031:23, 10063:12,
10123:41, 10126:36
Office [68] - 10034:15,
10034:16, 10034:20,
10035:3, 10035:7,
10035:22, 10035:23,
10035:27, 10036:6,
10036:12, 10036:15,
10036:20, 10036:27,
10036:31, 10036:34,
10036:39, 10037:5,
10037:45, 10038:4,
10038:5, 10038:20,
10038:29, 10038:33,
10038:42, 10039:7,
10039:37, 10039:46,
10042:13, 10042:24,
10042:29, 10042:40,
10043:4, 10043:16,
10043:20, 10043:29,
10044:1, 10044:38,
10044:41, 10045:10,
10045:14, 10045:17,
10045:24, 10045:31,
10045:37, 10045:39,
10045:42, 10046:35,
10046:36, 10046:38,
10046:40, 10046:45,
10047:7, 10047:10,
10047:12, 10047:14,
10047:19, 10047:27,
10047:29, 10047:41,
10047:45, 10048:2,
10048:4, 10048:7,
10048:24, 10048:25,
10048:27, 10118:1,
10120:7
Office's [1] - 10046:6
officer [11] - 10026:18,
10027:6, 10027:29,
10029:8, 10030:25,
10030:32, 10030:46,
10031:22, 10040:2,
10064:1, 10092:28
officers [5] - 10024:39,
10024:40, 10027:10,
10041:11, 10107:9
officially [1] - 10065:27
officials [1] - 10027:4
often [10] - 10026:43,
10075:10, 10075:11,
10083:25, 10085:2,
10085:26, 10092:44,
10092:45, 10098:32,
10109:4
Old [1] - 10024:20
old [67] - 10024:21,
10024:33, 10025:31,
10026:8, 10026:14,
10027:42, 10028:10,
10028:14, 10031:19,
10053:43, 10054:38,
10054:40, 10054:41,
10054:43, 10054:45,
10055:7, 10056:33,
10057:37, 10058:4,
10058:41, 10059:31,
10060:31, 10061:14,
10061:28, 10062:2,
10062:5, 10062:7,
10062:18, 10062:33,
10063:6, 10064:20,
10069:33, 10073:44,
10074:4, 10074:6,
10074:33, 10081:13,
10081:33, 10082:37,
10082:44, 10087:15,
10089:28, 10089:39,
10090:6, 10091:33,
10092:7, 10093:10,
10093:45, 10097:26,
10097:33, 10097:45,
10098:41, 10099:5,
10099:8, 10100:12,
10100:44, 10100:45,
10101:19, 10102:11,
10102:43, 10102:44,
10105:43, 10106:4,
10106:13, 10106:46,
10107:32, 10107:41
older [7] - 10053:36,
10053:38, 10056:23,
10069:42, 10069:45,
10085:16, 10090:41
oldest [1] - 10065:23
omitted [1] - 10117:38
once [6] - 10026:41,
10092:26, 10098:37,
10103:18, 10117:20,
10125:43
One [1] - 10092:8
one [82] - 10026:19,
10027:14, 10027:25,
10027:33, 10028:13,
10028:20, 10029:17,
10030:35, 10031:1,
10032:5, 10034:45,
10035:11, 10035:19,
10035:46, 10037:39,
10040:5, 10041:13,
10041:36, 10042:20,
10044:7, 10053:38,
10054:44, 10055:12,
10056:12, 10056:22,
10056:33, 10056:35,
10058:4, 10059:9,
10059:10, 10059:12,
10059:31, 10059:47,
10060:15, 10061:6,
10062:22, 10063:6,
10063:19, 10063:47,
10064:9, 10064:10,
10068:1, 10069:45,
10070:28, 10070:36,
10075:15, 10075:25,
10076:15, 10077:19,
10081:4, 10081:32,
10081:37, 10082:17,
10082:42, 10086:28,
10088:4, 10091:9,
10091:44, 10093:15,
10094:19, 10099:7,
10102:32, 10106:11,
10106:21, 10108:6,
10112:25, 10113:36,
10113:40, 10113:43,
10116:33, 10117:38,
10117:46, 10118:18,
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10118:41, 10119:5,
10121:22, 10123:19,
10123:25, 10123:30,
10124:6, 10130:9
ones [2] - 10118:42,
10119:5
ongoing [2] - 10067:8,
10109:17
onwards [1] - 10052:21
open [3] - 10037:6,
10060:40, 10106:22
opened [2] - 10060:45
opening [4] - 10022:28,
10049:20, 10050:9,
10121:26
operate [2] - 10025:16,
10025:23
operated [2] - 10031:39,
10092:7
operating [2] - 10024:41,
10090:22
operation [2] - 10023:5,
10023:31
operations [2] - 10023:26,
10030:44
Opha [1] - 10062:32
opinion [3] - 10041:3,
10044:15, 10048:33
opportunities [1] 10129:6
opportunity [3] 10050:45, 10128:40,
10129:8
oppose [3] - 10043:21,
10043:32, 10044:3
option [2] - 10038:21,
10038:43
options [1] - 10037:6
oral [2] - 10026:16,
10062:35
orally [1] - 10064:15
Orana [1] - 10094:45
Orange [4] - 10084:20,
10084:22, 10084:25,
10087:13
orange [18] - 10022:45,
10026:18, 10031:37,
10031:38, 10031:39,
10054:46, 10057:38,
10057:41, 10057:43,
10057:46, 10058:5,
10058:28, 10058:40,
10059:28, 10061:15,
10062:42, 10063:12,
10063:31
order [15] - 10022:31,
10022:33, 10038:16,
10043:22, 10043:33,
10044:31, 10087:27,
10102:40, 10109:41,
10113:22, 10116:32,
10118:23, 10119:20,
10127:39, 10127:47
ordered [6] - 10036:4,
10037:44, 10046:31,
10106:11, 10121:37,
10127:36
orders [7] - 10035:41,
10035:47, 10036:46,
10042:16, 10044:9,
10054:15, 10085:2
organisation [3] 10114:21, 10114:22,
10114:39
original [1] - 10124:46
originally [2] - 10072:13,
10109:16
otherwise [3] - 10053:10,
10085:32, 10098:34
outcome [2] - 10029:37,
10088:4
outlined [2] - 10102:24,
10120:43
outlining [1] - 10122:13
outset [2] - 10050:16,
10050:24
outside [12] - 10034:29,
10041:12, 10056:11,
10059:27, 10065:10,
10084:2, 10091:18,
10098:5, 10099:8,
10099:27, 10099:32,
10099:46
oval [1] - 10062:46
oval-shaped [1] 10062:46
overwhelming [1] 10066:24
own [15] - 10026:37,
10034:27, 10044:37,
10045:45, 10047:22,
10071:26, 10076:20,
10076:21, 10076:33,
10083:43, 10098:18,
10115:12, 10119:39,
10120:19, 10121:42
P
packet [1] - 10058:9
pads [1] - 10058:8
page [2] - 10034:23,
10034:24
pages [2] - 10123:27,
10123:28
paginated [1] - 10123:23
paid [3] - 10049:4,
10060:25, 10114:20
pain [5] - 10026:43,
10051:10, 10070:6,
10074:38, 10093:29
pants [7] - 10099:15,
10099:18, 10099:26,
10099:38, 10099:39,
10099:45
papers [1] - 10066:18
paragraph [29] 10052:20, 10052:25,
10052:28, 10052:34,
10104:38, 10104:39,
10104:41, 10111:35,
10111:38, 10112:5,
10112:43, 10112:47,
10113:36, 10113:37,
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10115:44, 10116:15,
10116:16, 10117:18,
10118:13, 10118:14,
10119:22, 10119:25,
10119:37, 10119:45,
10122:39, 10128:16,
10128:17, 10129:32,
10130:8
paragraphs [2] 10119:34, 10123:3
parents [18] - 10025:39,
10030:28, 10053:45,
10054:13, 10054:22,
10054:31, 10057:16,
10057:20, 10057:21,
10057:23, 10057:28,
10057:30, 10057:31,
10069:23, 10073:46,
10080:41, 10090:10,
10098:4
parents' [1] - 10057:44
park [1] - 10066:19
parked [3] - 10061:31,
10061:41, 10081:5
part [10] - 10023:4,
10046:6, 10046:20,
10050:20, 10066:7,
10077:34, 10084:6,
10127:10, 10127:19,
10130:6
participate [1] - 10037:46
participated [1] - 10099:1
particular [13] - 10023:34,
10046:12, 10046:42,
10051:16, 10066:25,
10076:27, 10116:29,
10116:32, 10116:40,
10118:1, 10121:19,
10121:22, 10125:24
particularised [1] 10038:23
particularly [4] 10034:41, 10075:4,
10112:5, 10113:3
particulars [11] 10024:11, 10034:28,
10035:8, 10036:1,
10036:3, 10036:9,
10036:29, 10036:33,
10037:1, 10037:43,
10038:25
parties [3] - 10023:41,
10042:21, 10127:6
partner [8] - 10070:6,
10070:13, 10071:2,
10077:21, 10077:23,
10077:29, 10094:16,
10103:2
partners [4] - 10076:17,
10089:21, 10103:12,
10107:36
parts [3] - 10075:7,
10092:8, 10113:45
party [3] - 10044:36,
10045:45, 10047:21
Party [1] - 10076:46
pass [3] - 10029:17,
10067:4, 10127:46
passed [5] - 10033:26,
10053:40, 10065:46,
10071:12, 10109:29
passenger [2] - 10059:5,
10059:18
passing [1] - 10071:32
past [4] - 10050:21,
10050:35, 10060:45,
10068:2
patient [1] - 10055:10
PATRICIA [2] - 10105:8,
10105:22
Patricia [2] - 10086:26,
10105:40
Patrick [2] - 10035:4,
10049:12
pay [11] - 10023:46,
10043:38, 10044:32,
10045:45, 10046:32,
10047:22, 10048:18,
10048:20, 10062:26,
10114:25, 10121:37
paying [3] - 10025:1,
10043:8, 10065:28
Payless [1] - 10076:36
payments [1] - 10128:28
PE [1] - 10033:28
peace [2] - 10071:28
peeping [2] - 10029:17,
10029:25
pending [1] - 10025:17
penetration [2] 10026:15, 10026:42
penis [13] - 10026:15,
10056:26, 10056:28,
10059:11, 10059:12,
10059:13, 10061:6,
10061:8, 10061:9,
10099:20, 10099:40
people [44] - 10024:23,
10027:28, 10050:35,
10057:7, 10063:25,
10064:39, 10065:29,
10065:35, 10065:37,
10066:31, 10067:21,
10068:6, 10070:32,
10070:44, 10075:43,
10077:10, 10077:47,
10081:27, 10082:8,
10082:14, 10083:18,
10086:37, 10088:22,
10088:28, 10092:15,
10095:24, 10101:15,
10103:1, 10103:8,
10103:14, 10107:38,
10108:37, 10110:15,
10110:38, 10115:20,
10117:3, 10122:17,
10123:4, 10123:45,
10124:11, 10125:21,
10125:30, 10125:32,
10126:36
pepper [4] - 10065:16,
10075:5, 10075:31,
10098:30
per [5] - 10025:3,
10040:45, 10074:37,
10074:39
perform [1] - 10062:35
perhaps [5] - 10049:39,
10050:4, 10104:41,
10130:25, 10130:27
period [16] - 10023:4,
10024:22, 10025:2,
10034:29, 10035:38,
10048:30, 10054:18,
10058:7, 10062:44,
10063:1, 10075:39,
10120:1, 10121:43,
10127:12, 10129:23,
10129:25
periods [1] - 10025:30
permanent [1] - 10121:21
permanently [2] 10106:45, 10120:26
permission [1] - 10025:22
permit [3] - 10025:15,
10025:20, 10025:29
perpetrated [2] 10031:47, 10039:20
person [10] - 10033:36,
10039:4, 10049:43,
10051:25, 10052:16,
10068:41, 10108:13,
10122:43, 10122:47,
10123:36
personal [1] - 10065:33
personally [2] - 10068:45,
10117:14
persuade [1] - 10058:46
Peter [5] - 10021:33,
10049:13, 10064:4,
10064:8, 10120:35
phone [3] - 10118:29,
10129:26, 10129:28
physical [7] - 10026:43,
10039:19, 10050:26,
10086:3, 10108:15,
10108:29, 10108:32
physically [10] - 10070:35,
10074:23, 10076:25,
10077:23, 10083:17,
10083:24, 10094:14,
10101:3, 10106:34,
10108:19
pick [2] - 10061:15,
10081:45
picked [3] - 10028:25,
10106:4, 10106:42
picking [2] - 10065:8,
10125:41
pillow [1] - 10060:6
pills [3] - 10062:46,
10062:47, 10071:11
pipes [1] - 10090:21
Place [2] - 10021:22,
10093:19
place [11] - 10030:21,
10055:25, 10056:15,
10057:18, 10059:38,
10065:5, 10074:6,
10074:47, 10079:18,
10090:1, 10100:10
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placed [14] - 10023:10,
10023:12, 10023:14,
10026:4, 10028:11,
10028:24, 10054:3,
10054:8, 10054:12,
10059:39, 10061:6,
10074:2, 10074:4,
10097:37
plain [1] - 10114:8
plaintiff [10] - 10026:25,
10028:5, 10028:34,
10036:47, 10037:34,
10039:1, 10046:8,
10048:5, 10069:34
plaintiffs [75] - 10027:14,
10027:33, 10034:22,
10034:32, 10034:36,
10034:44, 10034:45,
10035:2, 10035:9,
10035:17, 10035:18,
10035:34, 10036:1,
10036:4, 10036:8,
10036:27, 10036:43,
10037:14, 10037:17,
10037:23, 10037:30,
10037:37, 10037:40,
10037:43, 10038:15,
10038:22, 10039:28,
10039:43, 10040:32,
10040:39, 10041:4,
10041:10, 10041:12,
10041:23, 10041:44,
10042:25, 10043:10,
10043:18, 10043:36,
10043:43, 10044:30,
10045:13, 10045:19,
10046:13, 10046:21,
10047:7, 10048:17,
10048:47, 10051:9,
10069:9, 10113:42,
10115:11, 10115:19,
10115:32, 10116:17,
10116:21, 10116:30,
10116:34, 10117:15,
10117:35, 10118:18,
10119:47, 10121:9,
10121:15, 10121:20,
10126:40, 10128:12,
10128:19, 10128:26,
10128:30, 10128:39,
10129:12, 10129:16,
10129:26
plaintiffs" [1] - 10045:5
plaintiffs' [13] - 10038:14,
10038:44, 10038:46,
10041:13, 10042:35,
10044:32, 10046:32,
10047:15, 10048:18,
10048:20, 10048:28,
10126:8
plan [1] - 10095:40
planned [2] - 10029:42,
10109:28
play [1] - 10103:14
playing [4] - 10055:9,
10056:7, 10099:8,
10099:32
plea [1] - 10118:46
pleaded [4] - 10033:12,
10034:27, 10039:26,
10076:47
pleading [1] - 10048:26
pleadings [3] - 10035:30,
10048:28, 10112:28
pleases [2] - 10022:12,
10050:40
plus [3] - 10037:11,
10045:35, 10068:40
point [16] - 10034:23,
10034:26, 10038:35,
10049:18, 10065:3,
10067:45, 10068:4,
10074:45, 10078:24,
10078:38, 10086:14,
10107:13, 10116:39,
10119:12, 10128:11,
10130:31
police [60] - 10026:24,
10027:7, 10027:8,
10027:13, 10028:25,
10028:30, 10028:45,
10029:9, 10029:10,
10029:15, 10029:16,
10029:37, 10029:41,
10030:15, 10030:18,
10031:10, 10031:25,
10031:27, 10031:29,
10031:43, 10031:47,
10032:4, 10032:14,
10032:22, 10032:24,
10032:29, 10033:21,
10033:34, 10057:27,
10064:1, 10064:5,
10064:6, 10064:7,
10066:16, 10075:26,
10075:28, 10075:29,
10075:34, 10075:35,
10077:39, 10083:8,
10083:12, 10083:15,
10085:36, 10092:35,
10103:18, 10106:5,
10107:2, 10107:6,
10107:7, 10107:8,
10108:16, 10109:16,
10109:19, 10109:23,
10110:7, 10121:32
Police [4] - 10023:26,
10031:21, 10049:13,
10095:21
policy [2] - 10024:3,
10048:34
polite [1] - 10038:13
pool [2] - 10064:42,
10064:44
poor [2] - 10033:24,
10076:40
poorly [1] - 10093:25
Pop [1] - 10098:12
position [17] - 10042:30,
10044:26, 10044:30,
10053:6, 10088:43,
10097:2, 10101:21,
10107:14, 10113:26,
10116:21, 10118:26,
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possibility [4] - 10036:9,
10036:16, 10039:41,
10041:18
possible [8] - 10035:30,
10038:23, 10038:37,
10040:39, 10047:46,
10120:30, 10129:46,
10130:37
possibly [1] - 10115:29
post [2] - 10103:23,
10108:44
post-traumatic [2] 10103:23, 10108:44
posted [1] - 10118:4
pot [1] - 10075:17
potential [4] - 10039:38,
10051:1, 10119:19,
10122:1
powder [1] - 10107:23
powerless [1] - 10086:36
prefer [4] - 10086:24,
10086:31, 10097:4,
10110:37
pregnant [4] - 10070:14,
10097:27, 10101:43,
10102:17
premature [3] - 10044:6,
10048:31, 10097:29
premises [2] - 10024:41,
10025:36
preparation [3] 10044:25, 10109:42,
10110:19
prepare [2] - 10047:41,
10067:42
prepared [18] - 10029:29,
10030:25, 10030:33,
10035:24, 10045:7,
10047:5, 10047:24,
10048:3, 10053:23,
10073:32, 10080:29,
10089:9, 10097:14,
10105:35, 10109:37,
10118:22, 10121:20,
10122:15
prescribed [1] - 10108:43
presence [2] - 10027:5,
10043:39
present [6] - 10029:28,
10035:28, 10043:10,
10057:7, 10075:45,
10083:10
presented [1] - 10033:36
presently [2] - 10122:22,
10124:22
presents [1] - 10090:32
press [1] - 10025:5
pressure [2] - 10060:1,
10067:3
presumably [1] 10032:11
pretty [2] - 10065:10,
10100:41
prevent [2] - 10076:25,
10078:30
preventing [1] - 10070:9
Prevention [1] - 10066:7
prevention [1] - 10114:29
previous [4] - 10041:17,
10086:40, 10097:2,
10117:30
previously [2] - 10044:4,
10084:13
pried [1] - 10059:10
primarily [2] - 10115:5,
10117:15
primary [1] - 10122:23
principal [2] - 10034:37,
10114:40
principle [1] - 10038:24
prioritise [1] - 10115:16
priority [1] - 10115:13
prison [1] - 10103:36
privacy [2] - 10056:15,
10065:2
privilege [4] - 10046:18,
10127:3, 10127:29,
10127:34
pro [1] - 10116:10
proactive [1] - 10045:3
problem [3] - 10040:22,
10072:6, 10117:7
problems [20] - 10026:47,
10027:1, 10028:40,
10028:45, 10029:2,
10029:3, 10029:29,
10030:6, 10039:1,
10039:11, 10063:1,
10075:20, 10093:29,
10094:27, 10103:29,
10108:18, 10108:36,
10124:46
proceed [3] - 10033:16,
10042:20, 10066:5
proceeded [2] - 10046:4,
10062:20
proceeding [2] 10047:30, 10127:5
proceedings [35] 10023:28, 10023:35,
10023:41, 10024:2,
10028:5, 10028:34,
10034:1, 10034:15,
10034:34, 10035:1,
10035:10, 10035:11,
10035:14, 10035:41,
10035:42, 10036:7,
10036:10, 10036:16,
10036:45, 10037:38,
10039:30, 10042:15,
10043:47, 10044:43,
10048:16, 10048:19,
10048:20, 10048:30,
10048:40, 10049:5,
10051:9, 10109:32,
10117:20, 10119:27,
10120:27
proceedings" [1] 10037:41
process [38] - 10028:6,
10028:35, 10051:8,
10066:14, 10066:19,
10067:38, 10068:5,
10068:9, 10071:30,
10079:29, 10079:34,
10087:38, 10087:43,
10087:46, 10088:17,
10088:21, 10096:12,
10096:14, 10096:22,
10096:28, 10096:31,
10096:34, 10104:8,
10104:11, 10104:44,
10105:1, 10105:32,
10110:4, 10110:5,
10110:35, 10110:39,
10111:47, 10114:6,
10117:33, 10119:17,
10119:32, 10125:17,
10129:26
produce [2] - 10046:18,
10126:40
produced [1] - 10127:44
production [7] - 10046:13,
10046:21, 10118:15,
10127:15, 10127:22,
10127:28, 10127:36
products [1] - 10083:41
professional [3] 10045:25, 10127:3,
10127:29
profit [1] - 10034:39
program [2] - 10085:18,
10107:19
programs [1] - 10093:35
progress [2] - 10033:25,
10119:30
prompting [1] - 10029:33
proper [1] - 10083:39
properly [4] - 10048:26,
10048:27, 10078:26,
10103:45
proposal [3] - 10029:43,
10038:7, 10043:4
propose [1] - 10080:11
prosecute [1] - 10033:34
prospect [3] - 10036:24,
10039:32, 10117:20
prospects [5] - 10044:15,
10044:18, 10115:15,
10115:23
protect [4] - 10037:23,
10078:30, 10094:36,
10110:15
protected [1] - 10070:23
protection [1] - 10050:36
protracted [2] - 10023:37,
10117:31
proud [1] - 10070:46
proved [1] - 10062:16
provide [7] - 10034:40,
10036:1, 10037:1,
10076:15, 10113:2,
10114:27, 10115:11
provided [15] - 10036:3,
10037:43, 10042:8,
10045:16, 10045:31,
10045:38, 10045:46,
10046:26, 10047:10,
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10102:23, 10109:44,
10111:20, 10115:32
providing [3] - 10036:9,
10045:44, 10130:4
provision [2] - 10025:21,
10025:26
prowl [1] - 10092:18
pseudonym [4] 10022:29, 10072:14,
10088:41, 10096:45
psychiatric [2] - 10086:42,
10109:18
psychiatrist [2] 10041:30, 10117:41
psychiatrists [1] 10116:23
psychological [1] 10102:26
psychologically [2] 10083:24, 10108:19
psychologist [2] 10086:1, 10109:44
psychologists [4] 10109:9, 10116:27,
10117:13, 10117:39
public [5] - 10023:23,
10024:7, 10048:37,
10065:34, 10095:10
Public [3] - 10021:17,
10098:43, 10101:33
publish [1] - 10022:29
published [4] - 10053:6,
10053:8, 10072:6,
10104:35
pull [1] - 10110:41
pulled [8] - 10054:25,
10056:6, 10059:12,
10059:26, 10061:5,
10062:32, 10062:34,
10087:33
pump [3] - 10082:2,
10082:4, 10090:22
pumped [1] - 10090:22
punch [2] - 10077:26,
10083:27
punished [2] - 10109:20,
10110:29
punishment [1] - 10084:8
purely [1] - 10036:42
purpose [5] - 10024:13,
10050:2, 10095:16,
10113:21, 10118:47
pursuant [4] - 10022:13,
10022:30, 10025:15,
10025:34
pursue [2] - 10030:28,
10036:40
pursued [2] - 10045:4,
10046:43
pursuing [1] - 10037:16
pursuit [1] - 10037:38
push [2] - 10027:25,
10082:22
pushed [10] - 10028:14,
10056:28, 10056:40,
10060:3, 10060:46,
10061:4, 10061:10,
10091:16, 10099:20,
10099:39
put [33] - 10026:16,
10031:9, 10055:20,
10056:25, 10056:26,
10056:29, 10057:2,
10059:8, 10059:11,
10059:13, 10059:37,
10060:4, 10060:6,
10061:9, 10062:47,
10066:6, 10070:7,
10074:41, 10078:38,
10079:30, 10082:21,
10086:2, 10091:13,
10094:4, 10094:16,
10099:26, 10099:45,
10101:17, 10106:25,
10122:5, 10122:10,
10122:12, 10128:33
puzzle [1] - 10075:38
pyjamas [2] - 10029:25,
10055:19
Q
Q&L [3] - 10046:39,
10046:40, 10046:43
QC [1] - 10022:12
qualifications [1] 10093:23
quantum [5] - 10040:24,
10045:32, 10046:38,
10047:11, 10047:42
Queensland [1] 10033:39
questioned [3] 10066:34, 10067:31,
10118:32
questioning [1] - 10068:4
questions [18] - 10029:32,
10064:18, 10071:38,
10079:40, 10087:43,
10087:45, 10110:27,
10110:45, 10110:47,
10113:4, 10113:39,
10117:18, 10126:30,
10128:15, 10129:31,
10130:13, 10130:16,
10130:18
quickly [1] - 10059:39
quietly [1] - 10049:25
quite [8] - 10030:5,
10117:28, 10118:30,
10123:4, 10123:16,
10124:19, 10127:8,
10129:46
R
rage [2] - 10055:35,
10108:47
raining [1] - 10100:12
raise [2] - 10035:23,
10035:28
raised [8] - 10036:10,
10039:31, 10039:41,
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10112:9, 10120:8,
10125:4
raising [1] - 10036:13
ran [18] - 10056:36,
10058:18, 10059:40,
10060:36, 10061:11,
10061:24, 10074:46,
10075:2, 10082:14,
10082:28, 10082:34,
10084:30, 10084:33,
10092:26, 10092:29,
10092:30, 10092:34
rang [2] - 10064:25,
10084:24
range [1] - 10048:8
ranging [3] - 10026:41,
10048:41, 10100:44
raped [2] - 10059:17,
10106:27
rare [1] - 10115:39
rate [1] - 10025:3
rather [2] - 10038:38,
10061:46
razors [1] - 10075:5
re [3] - 10051:14,
10051:19, 10110:36
re-examine [1] - 10051:14
re-examining [1] 10051:19
re-telling [1] - 10110:36
reach [3] - 10056:9,
10059:39, 10061:35
read [17] - 10052:17,
10052:20, 10053:17,
10054:2, 10068:43,
10071:6, 10073:27,
10080:22, 10080:24,
10086:9, 10089:4,
10093:26, 10097:5,
10104:38, 10104:39,
10104:41, 10105:33
reading [7] - 10028:18,
10057:12, 10072:10,
10074:1, 10080:10,
10091:29, 10105:26
readings [1] - 10093:4
reads [2] - 10080:13,
10130:9
ready [3] - 10067:40,
10067:43, 10126:19
real [1] - 10088:3
realise [1] - 10066:2
realised [1] - 10074:44
really [20] - 10042:34,
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10067:45, 10068:1,
10068:4, 10068:7,
10069:18, 10070:3,
10070:10, 10070:44,
10078:36, 10079:29,
10088:3, 10096:19,
10099:21, 10099:46,
10100:1, 10100:3,
10117:4
reason [6] - 10041:33,
10043:25, 10086:2,
10117:12, 10120:5,
10121:13
reasonable [6] 10037:40, 10044:18,
10047:13, 10114:40,
10115:15, 10115:23
reasons [1] - 10088:5
recalled [2] - 10032:19,
10032:30
receive [4] - 10050:36,
10056:13, 10090:30,
10090:35
received [24] - 10023:5,
10024:31, 10025:37,
10029:10, 10029:39,
10039:46, 10052:31,
10069:16, 10069:17,
10078:43, 10078:44,
10079:28, 10085:41,
10085:42, 10088:8,
10094:41, 10095:36,
10096:22, 10096:33,
10104:9, 10104:20,
10109:47, 10110:31,
10128:29
receives [1] - 10096:40
receiving [1] - 10102:3
recently [3] - 10065:44,
10075:35, 10119:18
recognise [1] - 10051:16
recognised [1] - 10024:27
recollection [9] 10073:39, 10077:29,
10097:23, 10111:40,
10118:43, 10120:23,
10120:47, 10127:14,
10127:41
recommend [2] 10042:30, 10045:40
recommendations [1] 10025:24
recommended [8] 10031:37, 10044:19,
10044:39, 10045:3,
10047:20, 10047:25,
10063:4, 10129:15
recommending [3] 10044:44, 10045:43,
10129:27
record [6] - 10032:6,
10036:23, 10113:8,
10113:9, 10113:14,
10126:35
recorded [12] - 10030:12,
10030:35, 10030:45,
10034:23, 10038:45,
10040:42, 10041:18,
10042:45, 10043:42,
10047:27, 10113:12,
10113:33
recording [1] - 10043:18
records [8] - 10030:47,
10054:5, 10074:2,
10111:42, 10118:32,
10124:9, 10125:2,
10130:3
recount [1] - 10086:15
recounting [3] - 10116:41,
10117:3, 10121:31
red [4] - 10054:23,
10062:34, 10075:4,
10100:11
redacted [4] - 10053:2,
10053:10, 10072:8,
10111:20
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10053:36, 10058:16,
10060:18, 10060:22,
10060:23, 10060:24,
10060:26, 10063:33,
10063:34, 10063:35,
10063:38, 10075:24,
10075:26, 10102:8
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10083:3, 10085:45,
10102:5
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redress [2] - 10024:14,
10024:16
refer [4] - 10023:7,
10074:11, 10111:44,
10125:1
reference [10] - 10030:26,
10041:42, 10042:41,
10043:5, 10052:28,
10116:16, 10117:19,
10121:27, 10128:17,
10130:7
referred [12] - 10029:41,
10031:16, 10032:23,
10039:8, 10042:42,
10046:16, 10073:37,
10097:20, 10118:30,
10124:7, 10126:32,
10130:32
referring [2] - 10037:4,
10117:24
refers [1] - 10053:3
refuge [1] - 10085:6
refused [3] - 10046:18,
10056:47, 10106:27
refusing [1] - 10062:38
regard [4] - 10065:33,
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10118:27
regarded [3] - 10076:3,
10084:5, 10119:4
regarding [1] - 10045:19
regards [1] - 10110:10
Region [1] - 10030:44
regional [1] - 10031:23
registrar [2] - 10035:15,
10039:31
regrets [1] - 10051:8
regular [2] - 10079:18,
10108:46
regularly [5] - 10083:29,
10083:34, 10092:4,
10102:9, 10108:11
rehab [3] - 10054:43,
10094:44, 10094:45
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rehabilitation [3] 10085:18, 10093:35,
10107:29
reinforced [4] - 10051:13,
10056:14, 10058:35,
10067:5
related [4] - 10074:22,
10078:17, 10087:3,
10109:18
relating [2] - 10032:31,
10051:14
relation [37] - 10031:14,
10031:33, 10032:17,
10032:18, 10032:43,
10032:45, 10033:1,
10033:12, 10037:7,
10037:21, 10038:6,
10038:25, 10038:34,
10039:17, 10040:43,
10041:31, 10043:4,
10044:10, 10045:38,
10048:38, 10079:14,
10095:14, 10100:21,
10103:35, 10109:25,
10109:31, 10112:27,
10114:41, 10116:29,
10118:2, 10119:29,
10119:31, 10119:32,
10122:42, 10125:10,
10125:11, 10127:39
relationship [14] 10031:29, 10064:32,
10068:24, 10070:8,
10085:5, 10085:44,
10101:43, 10101:45,
10101:47, 10102:5,
10102:7, 10105:4,
10107:47, 10119:8
relationships [9] 10028:41, 10065:21,
10068:2, 10076:17,
10076:39, 10077:16,
10077:17, 10094:13,
10103:8
relative [2] - 10054:36,
10108:31
relatives [1] - 10107:38
release [1] - 10025:5
released [1] - 10070:30
relevant [8] - 10031:42,
10035:34, 10121:1,
10122:6, 10122:43,
10125:12, 10125:36,
10125:37
relied [1] - 10096:28
relief [1] - 10093:18
relieved [1] - 10040:1
relieving [1] - 10030:31
relisted [1] - 10121:5
relive [2] - 10028:7,
10104:45
relived [1] - 10077:3
reliving [1] - 10107:20
reluctant [1] - 10086:15
remained [3] - 10025:26,
10081:15, 10106:10
remember [80] - 10040:6,
10054:22, 10055:6,
10056:3, 10056:17,
10056:18, 10056:30,
10056:43, 10057:36,
10058:4, 10058:5,
10058:30, 10058:38,
10058:40, 10058:41,
10059:23, 10059:27,
10060:32, 10060:47,
10061:45, 10062:33,
10062:42, 10062:44,
10062:45, 10067:38,
10067:40, 10068:13,
10070:13, 10070:36,
10070:41, 10071:23,
10074:21, 10074:28,
10074:32, 10075:15,
10076:19, 10080:40,
10080:42, 10081:4,
10081:15, 10081:29,
10082:10, 10082:34,
10082:37, 10082:41,
10082:44, 10082:45,
10083:5, 10083:8,
10083:9, 10083:23,
10085:31, 10089:35,
10089:41, 10089:45,
10090:25, 10090:29,
10091:18, 10092:3,
10092:44, 10098:43,
10099:3, 10099:7,
10099:41, 10100:7,
10100:10, 10100:12,
10100:15, 10100:28,
10100:34, 10104:20,
10106:5, 10106:22,
10107:3, 10107:5,
10110:3, 10112:24,
10120:18, 10121:5,
10127:27
remembered [3] 10032:16, 10039:24,
10041:36
reminded [1] - 10086:21
reminders [1] - 10086:39
remission [1] - 10103:27
remorse [1] - 10093:38
remote [1] - 10113:45
removed [3] - 10049:25,
10089:41, 10099:18
rent [3] - 10062:20,
10062:25, 10062:29
repaid [1] - 10048:45
repairs [2] - 10060:25
repayment [1] - 10049:2
repeat [2] - 10086:34,
10087:26
repeated [5] - 10023:18,
10026:1, 10050:22,
10060:17, 10076:24
replaced [1] - 10054:41
replied [2] - 10035:28,
10036:31
replies [1] - 10124:3
reply [3] - 10043:24,
10123:8, 10124:30
report [10] - 10028:1,
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10041:30, 10041:32,
10042:24, 10086:9,
10086:12, 10108:16,
10109:44
reported [4] - 10037:36,
10041:16, 10064:5,
10109:22
reporting [4] - 10037:33,
10039:40, 10075:33,
10095:24
representation [1] 10066:42
representative [3] 10043:10, 10043:40,
10076:46
representing [1] 10068:46
request [1] - 10035:8
requested [1] - 10029:9
required [5] - 10038:44,
10048:45, 10098:25,
10117:12, 10126:23
requiring [1] - 10036:47
Reserve [1] - 10084:33
reserves [2] - 10114:22,
10114:23
reside [1] - 10106:12
resided [5] - 10023:1,
10026:5, 10026:32,
10027:19, 10027:37
resident [13] - 10024:39,
10029:7, 10029:17,
10029:19, 10030:24,
10030:26, 10030:31,
10030:46, 10031:22,
10032:1, 10032:8,
10032:17, 10040:2
residential [3] - 10090:12,
10098:2, 10098:6
residents [21] - 10022:39,
10022:42, 10023:16,
10023:24, 10023:25,
10023:27, 10023:28,
10023:30, 10023:35,
10023:40, 10025:42,
10025:47, 10029:13,
10029:18, 10030:36,
10031:1, 10031:43,
10033:45, 10033:47,
10034:32, 10093:20
residents' [2] - 10023:45,
10031:2
residing [2] - 10024:38,
10043:12
resolution [4] - 10036:10,
10036:16, 10036:24,
10047:34
resolve [3] - 10047:26,
10047:45, 10128:24
resolved [5] - 10031:9,
10037:10, 10039:32,
10043:17, 10048:16
resolving [1] - 10037:7
resources [2] - 10114:18,
10114:24
respect [21] - 10024:43,
10030:29, 10030:34,
10030:40, 10031:24,
10033:7, 10033:8,
10033:10, 10033:22,
10035:16, 10039:23,
10039:25, 10043:17,
10048:46, 10050:19,
10078:8, 10088:43,
10088:44, 10117:38,
10119:6, 10120:11
respectable [1] - 10093:5
respiratory [1] - 10103:28
respite [1] - 10093:19
respond [3] - 10044:30,
10055:40, 10121:16
responded [4] - 10022:41,
10036:38, 10037:32,
10044:1
response [11] - 10023:26,
10112:8, 10112:17,
10121:41, 10122:11,
10122:12, 10122:16,
10123:41, 10124:10,
10127:1, 10127:2
Responses [6] 10053:24, 10073:33,
10080:31, 10089:11,
10097:16, 10105:36
RESPONSES [1] 10021:13
responsibility [4] 10037:21, 10062:9,
10088:16, 10103:45
responsible [4] - 10039:5,
10068:46, 10088:29,
10098:11
rest [3] - 10056:31,
10057:42, 10061:12
restored [1] - 10078:19
result [12] - 10026:44,
10031:28, 10071:18,
10075:6, 10075:45,
10084:46, 10096:20,
10096:33, 10098:33,
10103:40, 10103:47,
10108:18
resulting [1] - 10085:44
resume [4] - 10049:26,
10072:29, 10072:36,
10130:37
resumed [1] - 10045:22
retained [4] - 10035:4,
10036:19, 10041:41,
10042:39
retraumatising [1] 10050:33
return [4] - 10063:40,
10077:40, 10089:35,
10106:41
returnable [1] - 10044:20
returned [8] - 10027:9,
10030:9, 10061:40,
10063:45, 10077:41,
10092:39, 10106:11,
10107:1
reveal [1] - 10121:46
revealed [2] - 10030:35,
10032:4
revert [1] - 10045:18
reviews [1] - 10031:35
Rex [1] - 10025:39
rib [2] - 10077:22,
10077:24
Richard [1] - 10034:13
rights [4] - 10068:25,
10078:32, 10096:9,
10110:9
ring [1] - 10084:21
risk [1] - 10031:9
risk" [1] - 10032:26
risks [1] - 10047:29
river [6] - 10056:44,
10076:7, 10082:3,
10082:29, 10082:36,
10090:23
Road [1] - 10062:32
road [5] - 10054:44,
10061:24, 10062:31,
10062:32, 10081:6
robbed [1] - 10065:2
Robert [1] - 10021:34
Robinson [1] - 10030:24
role [1] - 10045:22
roles [1] - 10090:20
roof [1] - 10081:28
room [21] - 10026:35,
10028:14, 10031:2,
10055:11, 10055:14,
10056:36, 10069:3,
10069:4, 10072:44,
10074:30, 10081:29,
10081:36, 10081:38,
10081:39, 10081:41,
10090:38, 10098:21,
10098:22, 10106:21,
10116:39, 10121:26
rooms [1] - 10081:31
rotate [1] - 10091:5
rousing [1] - 10070:37
row [1] - 10076:44
Royal [15] - 10022:30,
10022:37, 10050:41,
10050:44, 10051:13,
10053:23, 10069:16,
10069:21, 10069:26,
10069:37, 10073:32,
10080:30, 10089:10,
10097:15, 10105:35
ROYAL [1] - 10021:12
rub [1] - 10061:34
rubbed [3] - 10056:28,
10059:12, 10061:35
rubbing [8] - 10026:15,
10028:15, 10055:19,
10055:20, 10056:27,
10061:4, 10061:8,
10091:17
rude [1] - 10055:33
rule [1] - 10101:40
rules [1] - 10111:42
run [12] - 10022:45,
10026:45, 10043:30,
10060:45, 10074:46,
10081:18, 10081:20,
.22/10/2014 (96)
10082:5, 10083:46,
10090:9, 10106:15,
10129:3
running [8] - 10023:2,
10026:46, 10035:36,
10038:27, 10038:38,
10089:46, 10098:11,
10100:16
Russell [1] - 10084:13
S
sack [1] - 10118:38
sad [3] - 10054:23,
10071:29, 10094:25
safe [7] - 10057:7,
10084:16, 10089:43,
10090:6, 10091:21,
10091:23, 10092:17
safekeeping [2] 10027:20, 10081:4
safety [1] - 10056:15
said" [1] - 10039:14
Saidi [13] - 10035:4,
10036:19, 10037:3,
10037:13, 10037:29,
10037:32, 10037:36,
10038:4, 10038:41,
10040:9, 10040:36,
10041:42, 10049:13
sake [1] - 10109:5
salaried [2] - 10113:28,
10113:29
sandwiches [1] 10081:47
sat [7] - 10055:13,
10056:11, 10059:21,
10060:43, 10061:28,
10062:37, 10086:19
Saturday [3] - 10059:31,
10060:10, 10060:13
savage [1] - 10083:37
save [1] - 10037:11
saviours [1] - 10057:19
saw [17] - 10029:25,
10054:21, 10057:31,
10059:26, 10068:22,
10070:36, 10071:8,
10075:22, 10081:5,
10082:21, 10082:29,
10085:47, 10091:31,
10092:45, 10093:6,
10110:21
SC [4] - 10041:40,
10044:14, 10044:43,
10049:12
scalded [1] - 10075:18
scared [13] - 10061:1,
10063:20, 10063:41,
10067:16, 10068:34,
10074:29, 10083:21,
10091:21, 10092:24,
10092:32, 10094:25,
10100:23, 10101:4
scarring [1] - 10075:7
scathing [1] - 10037:23
scheduled [4] - 10036:18,
10037:4, 10048:10,
10121:10
Scheme [1] - 10066:5
scheme [1] - 10023:32
School [6] - 10074:16,
10081:6, 10089:23,
10098:43, 10101:33,
10101:34
school [41] - 10024:37,
10057:13, 10057:32,
10057:37, 10057:38,
10061:15, 10061:17,
10062:2, 10062:15,
10062:17, 10062:19,
10065:4, 10065:6,
10070:19, 10074:17,
10074:43, 10075:22,
10076:45, 10081:5,
10081:43, 10081:44,
10081:46, 10082:43,
10082:46, 10083:2,
10084:14, 10084:16,
10089:24, 10089:41,
10090:21, 10092:38,
10098:42, 10098:45,
10099:9, 10100:15,
10101:34, 10101:35,
10102:37, 10106:21
schoolhouse [4] 10054:38, 10054:40,
10074:18, 10100:29
Scone [2] - 10101:38,
10101:42
scones [2] - 10059:32,
10059:37
screen [2] - 10119:27,
10122:33
scrubbed [1] - 10106:30
seasonal [1] - 10065:7
seat [4] - 10059:5,
10059:6, 10059:18,
10059:19
second [5] - 10030:10,
10080:38, 10090:15,
10092:34, 10098:14
secondly [2] - 10042:3,
10115:23
section [5] - 10022:30,
10025:16, 10025:29,
10025:34, 10035:35
Security [3] - 10026:18,
10063:12, 10063:25
see [33] - 10029:23,
10033:25, 10035:16,
10043:43, 10056:12,
10056:41, 10058:43,
10059:19, 10059:22,
10060:2, 10061:38,
10063:42, 10065:36,
10067:45, 10068:4,
10069:5, 10072:13,
10082:3, 10082:11,
10088:22, 10089:33,
10090:27, 10092:44,
10103:5, 10107:42,
10112:38, 10114:12,
10116:32, 10117:12,
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10124:38, 10130:10
seeing [2] - 10065:44,
10103:1
seek [4] - 10052:3,
10128:19, 10128:26,
10129:29
seeking [12] - 10035:18,
10035:33, 10035:41,
10043:31, 10044:16,
10046:21, 10046:23,
10046:31, 10047:6,
10119:47, 10127:22,
10129:8
seem [2] - 10088:14,
10124:14
sees [1] - 10064:29
seizure [2] - 10077:13,
10078:3
seizures [1] - 10077:13
self [1] - 10065:25
self-esteem [1] - 10065:25
send [1] - 10057:21
sending [2] - 10076:45,
10118:2
Senior [2] - 10032:6,
10033:28
senior [3] - 10034:18,
10047:33, 10047:35
sense [2] - 10067:27,
10107:5
sensitively [1] - 10051:5
sent [12] - 10026:11,
10041:7, 10041:29,
10042:38, 10043:15,
10047:32, 10061:18,
10078:24, 10103:36,
10106:9, 10109:34,
10110:20
sentence [1] - 10094:42
sentenced [3] - 10033:8,
10077:1, 10078:7
separate [2] - 10035:16,
10069:3
separately [1] - 10034:27
September [11] 10025:30, 10030:24,
10035:9, 10035:15,
10036:26, 10049:1,
10073:8, 10109:36,
10123:9, 10124:7,
10124:24
serious [3] - 10023:18,
10025:47, 10118:31
serve [1] - 10040:45
served [2] - 10120:34,
10120:37
Service [2] - 10066:7,
10083:1
service [3] - 10038:25,
10042:17, 10114:29
service/regulatory [1] 10034:14
services [9] - 10034:41,
10045:8, 10045:12,
10049:2, 10096:30,
10113:2, 10114:27,
10114:32, 10130:4
Services [52] - 10022:7,
10023:7, 10034:38,
10035:2, 10035:21,
10035:32, 10036:26,
10036:32, 10037:15,
10037:45, 10038:7,
10038:10, 10043:3,
10043:7, 10044:1,
10044:23, 10044:34,
10049:11, 10053:31,
10066:8, 10069:8,
10074:2, 10078:28,
10079:32, 10079:36,
10086:10, 10087:35,
10095:33, 10095:43,
10096:13, 10096:26,
10103:44, 10104:6,
10104:22, 10104:47,
10109:15, 10110:13,
10110:20, 10110:27,
10113:1, 10113:6,
10113:8, 10113:28,
10114:19, 10114:20,
10115:34, 10121:40,
10127:18, 10129:40,
10129:43, 10130:7
Services' [1] - 10038:35
sessions [2] - 10057:14,
10103:41
set [5] - 10024:18,
10038:37, 10046:23,
10046:31, 10070:29
sets [7] - 10035:14,
10053:22, 10073:31,
10080:28, 10089:8,
10097:13, 10105:34
setting [1] - 10042:9
settle [4] - 10023:41,
10036:36, 10042:26,
10069:10
settled [2] - 10078:43,
10128:8
settlement [11] 10037:30, 10041:43,
10045:3, 10045:5,
10047:41, 10052:30,
10069:15, 10078:44,
10079:28, 10128:18,
10128:33
settling [1] - 10040:43
seven [5] - 10085:29,
10087:19, 10097:45,
10101:19, 10107:46
several [7] - 10024:40,
10026:13, 10038:14,
10067:45, 10084:45,
10107:36, 10111:40
severe [5] - 10062:43,
10063:2, 10087:2,
10103:22, 10103:23
sex [8] - 10026:16,
10062:35, 10074:43,
10092:22, 10099:21,
10102:38, 10103:9,
10103:11
SEXUAL [1] - 10021:13
sexual [67] - 10022:38,
10023:18, 10026:1,
10026:7, 10026:16,
10026:32, 10026:38,
10026:42, 10027:38,
10027:41, 10027:42,
10027:45, 10028:12,
10028:28, 10028:39,
10029:2, 10029:4,
10030:33, 10030:40,
10031:47, 10032:17,
10032:31, 10032:35,
10032:40, 10032:42,
10032:46, 10034:8,
10039:12, 10039:20,
10040:25, 10042:4,
10048:38, 10050:25,
10050:43, 10051:3,
10051:6, 10051:15,
10051:17, 10051:20,
10055:47, 10063:3,
10064:17, 10066:3,
10066:12, 10066:38,
10068:8, 10069:18,
10070:15, 10070:21,
10070:44, 10071:19,
10074:34, 10074:40,
10074:45, 10076:30,
10078:9, 10094:30,
10099:3, 10100:21,
10102:31, 10106:38,
10107:2, 10108:28,
10109:22, 10110:1,
10115:14, 10115:27
Sexual [6] - 10053:24,
10073:33, 10080:31,
10089:11, 10097:16,
10105:36
sexually [21] - 10026:35,
10026:40, 10027:21,
10034:3, 10041:4,
10041:23, 10055:2,
10069:34, 10069:45,
10074:21, 10074:30,
10074:36, 10076:25,
10093:6, 10094:15,
10100:8, 10100:31,
10100:35, 10108:13,
10108:19, 10108:33
shake [1] - 10077:42
shall [1] - 10104:31
shame [3] - 10056:1,
10067:29, 10086:45
shaped [1] - 10062:46
share [4] - 10030:36,
10090:38, 10098:20,
10098:22
shared [4] - 10038:30,
10081:29, 10081:41,
10099:13
sharpen [2] - 10065:17,
10075:5
shed [2] - 10068:28,
10082:4
sheets [2] - 10091:12,
10091:13
shining [1] - 10091:6
shirt [1] - 10071:26
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shock [1] - 10091:25
shoe [2] - 10054:23,
10054:25
shoes [1] - 10091:7
shop [1] - 10061:31
shopping [3] - 10061:21,
10061:37, 10065:28
short [7] - 10049:24,
10050:9, 10054:2,
10090:19, 10121:17,
10127:12, 10129:13
SHORT [1] - 10049:28
shortly [5] - 10026:4,
10026:27, 10057:46,
10081:1, 10107:33
shoulders [3] - 10056:46,
10057:2, 10082:22
show [1] - 10051:4
showed [2] - 10033:38,
10071:24
shower [2] - 10064:46,
10106:31
shown [1] - 10050:19
shut [1] - 10060:24
shy [1] - 10102:35
siblings [3] - 10053:35,
10053:38, 10105:45
sick [7] - 10059:43,
10065:35, 10091:32,
10106:30, 10107:24,
10108:32, 10109:10
side [9] - 10054:32,
10056:28, 10059:3,
10059:12, 10067:9,
10067:12, 10067:40,
10126:24, 10128:45
side's [2] - 10066:35,
10067:44
sign [5] - 10052:29,
10052:35, 10052:40,
10069:14, 10102:16
significance [1] - 10125:5
significant [3] - 10084:42,
10108:8, 10121:33
significantly [1] 10115:45
silent [1] - 10059:21
silver [1] - 10059:2
similar [6] - 10034:33,
10062:26, 10096:31,
10105:1, 10117:7,
10117:31
similarly [1] - 10117:2
simple [1] - 10130:8
simplest [1] - 10065:27
sincere [1] - 10088:14
sinners [1] - 10057:15
sister [22] - 10028:3,
10053:36, 10054:25,
10056:17, 10058:7,
10058:16, 10063:9,
10063:18, 10063:32,
10064:12, 10076:11,
10083:34, 10084:22,
10084:30, 10084:37,
10085:16, 10097:33,
10101:11, 10106:31,
10107:2, 10107:41
sisters [8] - 10067:18,
10071:21, 10074:5,
10081:2, 10081:40,
10083:21, 10090:39,
10119:10
sisters' [1] - 10086:17
sit [4] - 10059:4, 10059:7,
10059:20, 10084:19
site [1] - 10024:34
sitting [5] - 10055:12,
10058:10, 10059:5,
10063:9, 10067:43
situation [2] - 10038:11,
10040:7
situation" [1] - 10031:9
six [10] - 10025:17,
10025:30, 10040:2,
10041:20, 10055:6,
10062:45, 10068:31,
10070:8, 10076:10,
10085:14
six-month [1] - 10025:30
Skinner [2] - 10041:31,
10117:41
slave [1] - 10098:34
sleep [2] - 10081:35,
10092:23
sleeping [4] - 10040:4,
10059:46, 10071:10,
10108:7
slept [2] - 10040:5,
10076:7
sliding [1] - 10082:35
slouch [2] - 10067:32,
10067:34
smacked [1] - 10058:23
small [3] - 10056:8,
10060:33, 10114:22
smaller [5] - 10067:29,
10081:24, 10090:15,
10098:15, 10098:20
smash [1] - 10093:7
smiled [1] - 10060:6
Smith [3] - 10045:8,
10045:9, 10045:11
smoker [1] - 10093:33
smoking [1] - 10076:18
sober [1] - 10093:37
Social [3] - 10026:18,
10063:12, 10063:24
soiled [1] - 10091:12
Solicitor [3] - 10034:14,
10049:12, 10124:45
solicitor [11] - 10034:16,
10034:17, 10034:18,
10034:36, 10034:37,
10037:15, 10080:13,
10109:14, 10110:19,
10114:40, 10117:15
Solicitor's [69] - 10034:15,
10034:16, 10034:20,
10035:3, 10035:7,
10035:22, 10035:23,
10035:27, 10036:6,
10036:12, 10036:15,
10036:20, 10036:27,
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10036:39, 10037:5,
10037:45, 10038:4,
10038:5, 10038:20,
10038:29, 10038:33,
10038:42, 10039:7,
10039:37, 10039:46,
10042:13, 10042:24,
10042:29, 10042:40,
10043:4, 10043:16,
10043:20, 10043:28,
10043:47, 10044:37,
10044:41, 10045:10,
10045:14, 10045:17,
10045:24, 10045:31,
10045:37, 10045:39,
10045:42, 10046:6,
10046:35, 10046:37,
10046:39, 10046:45,
10047:7, 10047:10,
10047:12, 10047:14,
10047:19, 10047:27,
10047:29, 10047:41,
10047:45, 10048:2,
10048:3, 10048:7,
10048:24, 10048:25,
10048:27, 10118:1,
10120:7
solicitors [24] - 10035:8,
10066:18, 10066:22,
10067:1, 10067:18,
10068:39, 10069:2,
10078:35, 10078:41,
10086:27, 10095:33,
10095:42, 10096:5,
10109:36, 10109:39,
10109:40, 10110:13,
10113:26, 10113:28,
10113:29, 10114:11,
10114:25, 10128:29,
10129:39
Solicitors [1] - 10034:10
solidly [1] - 10090:19
solve [1] - 10093:29
someone [11] - 10028:16,
10041:12, 10059:33,
10060:22, 10061:22,
10063:26, 10064:45,
10064:47, 10075:25,
10091:19, 10091:38
sometimes [9] - 10060:26,
10066:23, 10074:39,
10074:40, 10074:41,
10087:10, 10089:30,
10091:4, 10098:28
somewhat [2] - 10065:32,
10107:30
somewhere [3] 10038:17, 10063:28,
10094:34
son [12] - 10029:39,
10065:21, 10065:22,
10065:23, 10093:11,
10101:44, 10101:47,
10102:10, 10103:15,
10107:40, 10108:7
son-in-law [1] - 10029:39
soon [6] - 10062:46,
10074:26, 10075:19,
10092:33, 10112:38,
10130:36
sorry [2] - 10050:27,
10129:33
sort [1] - 10113:31
sought [11] - 10036:35,
10043:8, 10043:29,
10044:37, 10044:41,
10046:9, 10047:25,
10048:39, 10103:34,
10127:46, 10127:47
sound [1] - 10091:19
South [26] - 10022:14,
10022:40, 10023:29,
10023:32, 10024:3,
10024:15, 10025:6,
10025:38, 10034:2,
10047:1, 10049:11,
10050:41, 10050:43,
10051:1, 10054:46,
10068:41, 10078:19,
10081:3, 10090:5,
10095:31, 10097:38,
10101:24, 10106:12,
10113:44, 10113:45,
10128:30
speaking [3] - 10051:32,
10065:45, 10077:47
spec [2] - 10116:7,
10116:9
special [3] - 10090:30,
10090:32, 10090:36
specially [1] - 10114:26
specific [3] - 10033:35,
10099:7, 10100:34
specified [1] - 10025:20
speech [3] - 10071:6,
10073:37, 10097:20
spending [1] - 10095:39
spent [7] - 10077:30,
10077:34, 10078:12,
10080:42, 10084:47,
10097:29, 10113:11
spinning [1] - 10077:42
spirit [1] - 10071:24
spite [1] - 10065:36
spoken [4] - 10121:23,
10122:17, 10124:11,
10125:23
spot [1] - 10113:43
St [1] - 10097:42
stabbed [1] - 10077:27
stabbing [2] - 10077:29,
10094:17
staff [1] - 10025:22
stage [11] - 10030:22,
10035:5, 10036:42,
10038:22, 10039:37,
10049:38, 10061:9,
10087:28, 10108:14,
10108:42, 10119:30
stages [2] - 10048:30,
10077:33
stairs [1] - 10060:12
stand [2] - 10057:1,
10103:2
standing [5] - 10056:6,
10056:19, 10056:45,
10060:2, 10060:10
staring [1] - 10062:38
start [2] - 10040:34,
10052:36
started [25] - 10055:3,
10055:19, 10055:21,
10055:24, 10056:25,
10056:39, 10059:10,
10060:5, 10061:2,
10061:34, 10074:27,
10075:39, 10076:8,
10077:20, 10085:15,
10085:30, 10089:29,
10098:41, 10099:4,
10100:15, 10102:5,
10102:41, 10107:17,
10117:29, 10125:20
starting [2] - 10026:7,
10093:45
starts [1] - 10119:36
State [79] - 10022:14,
10022:40, 10023:12,
10023:29, 10023:36,
10023:45, 10024:1,
10026:3, 10026:26,
10027:15, 10027:34,
10028:6, 10034:1,
10034:4, 10034:6,
10034:39, 10034:45,
10035:23, 10035:24,
10035:40, 10037:46,
10039:17, 10039:18,
10039:33, 10039:34,
10039:38, 10042:2,
10042:16, 10043:8,
10043:38, 10044:2,
10044:31, 10044:45,
10046:17, 10046:23,
10046:32, 10047:12,
10047:18, 10048:18,
10048:19, 10048:33,
10048:40, 10050:40,
10051:8, 10051:14,
10051:15, 10052:40,
10053:44, 10054:3,
10065:23, 10068:32,
10068:45, 10068:47,
10071:31, 10078:26,
10078:29, 10095:30,
10095:44, 10096:1,
10096:7, 10096:10,
10113:1, 10117:36,
10117:40, 10120:19,
10120:25, 10120:33,
10121:4, 10121:36,
10125:43, 10126:40,
10127:18, 10127:46,
10128:4, 10128:17,
10128:41, 10129:38,
10130:4
state [3] - 10035:29,
10078:37, 10109:13
State's [12] - 10023:44,
10036:28, 10044:31,
10045:25, 10046:30,
10046:37, 10071:31,
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10121:21, 10126:8,
10127:1, 10127:2,
10127:27
State-wide [3] - 10034:39,
10113:1, 10130:4
STATEMENT [7] 10052:9, 10073:20,
10080:19, 10089:2,
10097:9, 10105:22,
10111:31
statement [99] - 10022:28,
10028:31, 10034:21,
10034:27, 10034:28,
10034:31, 10034:45,
10035:16, 10035:19,
10035:25, 10035:41,
10039:8, 10039:9,
10039:46, 10040:3,
10040:10, 10041:25,
10050:9, 10051:41,
10051:44, 10051:47,
10052:17, 10052:46,
10053:10, 10053:18,
10053:22, 10053:25,
10060:28, 10064:7,
10064:12, 10072:4,
10072:10, 10073:8,
10073:11, 10073:15,
10073:24, 10073:31,
10073:34, 10073:37,
10077:38, 10077:39,
10080:6, 10080:10,
10080:14, 10080:17,
10080:24, 10080:28,
10080:32, 10085:35,
10088:36, 10088:42,
10088:45, 10089:4,
10089:8, 10089:12,
10095:20, 10095:23,
10096:40, 10097:1,
10097:4, 10097:5,
10097:7, 10097:13,
10097:17, 10097:21,
10102:15, 10102:16,
10104:33, 10104:38,
10104:42, 10105:15,
10105:18, 10105:27,
10105:33, 10105:34,
10105:37, 10107:3,
10107:4, 10111:10,
10111:19, 10111:21,
10111:24, 10111:27,
10111:35, 10112:4,
10112:44, 10116:16,
10117:47, 10119:22,
10119:28, 10119:46,
10120:24, 10122:28,
10122:36, 10123:22,
10128:16, 10129:32,
10129:36, 10130:9
statements [11] - 10027:8,
10049:17, 10049:43,
10050:2, 10052:1,
10064:8, 10066:16,
10075:29, 10080:7,
10088:43, 10120:37
stating [3] - 10035:28,
10044:15, 10045:29
station [12] - 10027:8,
10028:31, 10029:9,
10029:15, 10064:6,
10064:8, 10075:26,
10075:28, 10075:29,
10083:8, 10107:3,
10107:7
Station [1] - 10095:21
statutory [2] - 10048:42,
10102:23
stay [19] - 10044:16,
10044:47, 10062:2,
10063:31, 10063:36,
10065:12, 10069:4,
10079:4, 10079:17,
10083:45, 10092:11,
10094:43, 10095:5,
10098:19, 10120:26,
10121:21, 10127:43,
10127:47
stayed [8] - 10061:12,
10063:33, 10084:10,
10084:27, 10092:37,
10092:40, 10106:40,
10106:42
staying [2] - 10059:38,
10098:20
steering [3] - 10059:8,
10059:9, 10059:11
step [2] - 10025:11,
10087:37
stepfather [6] - 10097:46,
10101:20, 10101:23,
10101:25, 10101:27,
10101:39
steps [3] - 10031:5,
10037:22, 10050:32
steroid [1] - 10103:26
stick [1] - 10058:14
sticking [1] - 10061:3
still [27] - 10023:41,
10030:13, 10040:23,
10041:5, 10041:22,
10055:47, 10061:35,
10062:14, 10063:1,
10067:23, 10067:43,
10068:19, 10068:20,
10068:27, 10069:19,
10071:19, 10071:29,
10084:23, 10088:21,
10088:22, 10090:2,
10092:28, 10093:8,
10103:25, 10103:29,
10107:40, 10109:17
stoke [1] - 10103:30
stomach [1] - 10108:32
stood [7] - 10042:18,
10046:5, 10046:20,
10055:23, 10060:16,
10069:36, 10127:19
stopped [4] - 10085:19,
10091:20, 10094:6,
10103:40
stopping [1] - 10028:15
store [1] - 10061:30
stories [1] - 10050:20
story [10] - 10066:32,
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10080:1, 10095:9,
10107:6, 10110:36,
10110:38, 10111:4
stove [1] - 10075:17
strangers [3] - 10065:37,
10067:30, 10068:9
strap [4] - 10075:4,
10083:27, 10091:11,
10106:36
straps [1] - 10065:17
strategy [1] - 10045:3
street [3] - 10058:9,
10071:25, 10107:23
streeting [3] - 10051:26,
10052:16, 10053:17
STREETING [1] 10053:22
strength [1] - 10108:15
stress [3] - 10095:6,
10103:23, 10108:44
stressful [5] - 10028:36,
10110:23, 10116:34,
10116:36, 10119:17
strike [1] - 10125:14
striking [1] - 10044:17
strong [1] - 10042:4
stronger [2] - 10118:42,
10119:5
strongly [1] - 10125:15
struck [2] - 10035:42,
10108:7
struggle [2] - 10065:26,
10071:31
strung [1] - 10087:29
studied [1] - 10097:42
study [3] - 10022:37,
10099:1
Study [1] - 10021:17
stuff [1] - 10067:40
subdue [1] - 10077:35
subject [7] - 10038:24,
10043:31, 10049:39,
10072:22, 10080:10,
10088:40, 10096:45
subjected [3] - 10023:18,
10025:47, 10039:19
submission [3] 10072:28, 10125:44,
10126:2
subpoena [7] - 10046:21,
10046:24, 10046:31,
10118:15, 10118:26,
10127:15, 10127:28
subpoenaed [1] 10118:32
subsequently [2] 10030:31, 10032:34
substance [1] - 10031:8
substantiate [1] 10031:26
substantive [1] - 10047:30
success [4] - 10044:16,
10044:18, 10115:15,
10115:24
successful [1] - 10040:45
sucker [1] - 10031:18
sue [3] - 10115:11,
10115:33, 10120:2
suffer [8] - 10063:1,
10065:26, 10077:12,
10098:32, 10103:22,
10103:27, 10108:44
suffered [19] - 10026:43,
10039:18, 10048:38,
10050:25, 10050:28,
10051:3, 10051:11,
10064:9, 10066:3,
10069:19, 10074:26,
10102:22, 10102:25,
10103:24, 10103:30,
10103:47, 10108:41,
10108:42, 10117:35
suffering [1] - 10094:3
sufficiently [1] - 10044:17
suggested [3] - 10036:15,
10039:43, 10069:9
suggestion [4] 10037:28, 10038:35,
10040:42, 10041:32
suicide [2] - 10093:44,
10109:4
suitable [5] - 10025:22,
10025:27, 10044:46,
10072:27, 10072:28
sum [6] - 10045:35,
10048:17, 10048:19,
10048:21, 10048:45,
10088:8
summary [2] - 10119:29,
10120:24
summertime [1] 10064:43
Sunday [1] - 10062:22
supervising [5] - 10039:5,
10045:23, 10125:32,
10125:36, 10125:37
supervision [2] 10034:18, 10046:1
supervisory [1] 10037:21
supplied [1] - 10036:33
supplies [1] - 10083:39
support [5] - 10051:19,
10051:25, 10052:16,
10088:1, 10125:45
supported [3] - 10050:44,
10054:11, 10066:42
supporting [1] - 10114:23
supportive [1] - 10087:36
suppose [1] - 10117:30
supposed [2] - 10065:41,
10071:13
suppress [1] - 10079:8
Supreme [1] - 10078:18
surplus [1] - 10114:22
surround [1] - 10115:10
surveillance [2] 10039:42, 10039:44
survived [2] - 10076:38,
10108:24
survivors [1] - 10051:6
suspect [2] - 10037:39,
10072:6
suspended [3] - 10094:42,
10120:1, 10120:13
suspending [1] 10035:36
suspension [1] - 10120:11
suspicion [1] - 10043:18
swear [1] - 10049:44
sweat [1] - 10077:43
swelling [2] - 10091:3,
10098:33
swim [2] - 10056:45,
10064:45
swimming [1] - 10064:42
sworn [3] - 10073:1,
10105:8, 10123:9
Sydney [13] - 10021:22,
10067:16, 10079:10,
10087:40, 10097:28,
10097:30, 10097:36,
10097:43, 10106:10,
10107:22, 10110:22,
10116:32, 10126:19
sympathy [1] - 10050:18
symptoms [1] - 10086:43
system [4] - 10051:4,
10075:42, 10114:6,
10118:1
systemic [1] - 10024:8
T
tab [13] - 10051:47,
10053:2, 10072:4,
10073:15, 10080:6,
10088:42, 10097:1,
10104:34, 10111:10,
10122:35, 10123:22,
10124:34, 10124:42
table [3] - 10059:36,
10059:39, 10080:12
tablets [3] - 10094:4,
10094:6, 10108:43
tapped [1] - 10059:36
targeted [1] - 10045:4
tasks [1] - 10065:27
taunted [1] - 10057:14
tea [2] - 10059:32,
10059:37
teach [1] - 10059:4
teacher [2] - 10083:2,
10098:43
tear [1] - 10068:28
tears [1] - 10059:21
teeth [1] - 10077:24
telephone [3] - 10037:29,
10041:1, 10047:42
television [1] - 10049:25
temper [1] - 10077:9
temperature [1] 10064:43
ten [1] - 10100:36
tendency [1] - 10033:40
tender [13] - 10049:17,
10049:32, 10049:42,
10052:3, 10073:16,
10080:15, 10088:45,
.22/10/2014 (96)
10097:5, 10111:27,
10124:34, 10130:31
TENDER [1] - 10049:36
tendering [1] - 10049:38
terms [10] - 10041:8,
10072:7, 10087:39,
10103:37, 10113:43,
10114:18, 10121:20,
10125:42, 10126:15,
10129:11
terrible [4] - 10050:26,
10070:28, 10071:15,
10086:43
terrified [2] - 10057:22,
10057:33
Territory [1] - 10076:6
terrorise [1] - 10085:7
Terry [15] - 10029:7,
10032:23, 10039:8,
10075:27, 10075:30,
10083:4, 10083:6,
10089:42, 10089:45,
10092:28, 10092:29,
10092:30, 10121:23,
10125:23
test [1] - 10043:29
tested [1] - 10118:43
THE [76] - 10022:4,
10022:9, 10022:16,
10022:24, 10022:33,
10049:20, 10049:24,
10049:30, 10049:34,
10049:42, 10050:6,
10050:11, 10050:38,
10051:22, 10051:32,
10052:3, 10052:7,
10052:45, 10053:5,
10053:10, 10053:15,
10053:20, 10071:38,
10071:45, 10072:1,
10072:13, 10072:18,
10072:25, 10072:31,
10072:36, 10073:18,
10079:40, 10079:47,
10080:3, 10080:17,
10080:22, 10088:34,
10088:47, 10096:39,
10097:7, 10104:28,
10105:6, 10110:45,
10111:4, 10111:7,
10111:29, 10112:8,
10112:20, 10112:38,
10114:35, 10115:42,
10119:25, 10119:39,
10122:21, 10122:27,
10122:32, 10122:39,
10123:12, 10123:14,
10123:19, 10123:25,
10123:30, 10123:35,
10123:40, 10124:2,
10124:9, 10124:30,
10124:38, 10124:44,
10125:39, 10128:11,
10130:16, 10130:22,
10130:27, 10130:36,
10130:40
themselves [4] 10041:10, 10041:12,
10090:31, 10108:3
themselves" [1] 10037:17
Thereafter [1] - 10091:31
thereafter [2] - 10026:4,
10107:24
thereby [1] - 10035:36
therefore [2] - 10078:14,
10110:8
thinking [5] - 10058:31,
10061:45, 10067:10,
10067:42, 10068:13
third [1] - 10057:32
Thirdly [1] - 10032:22
thoughts [1] - 10086:29
threatened [2] - 10057:20,
10065:15
three [18] - 10024:36,
10043:46, 10044:12,
10062:11, 10065:23,
10067:41, 10070:10,
10070:17, 10078:8,
10085:19, 10089:19,
10097:29, 10097:39,
10099:5, 10102:7,
10120:17, 10121:43,
10123:21
threw [3] - 10055:29,
10058:12, 10070:37
throughout [4] - 10084:4,
10087:17, 10108:40,
10113:44
throwing [1] - 10056:46
THURSDAY [1] - 10130:41
ticket [1] - 10084:25
tickle [1] - 10103:16
timetable [2] - 10038:25,
10038:37
timid [1] - 10102:34
tin [1] - 10081:28
tipped [2] - 10067:6,
10075:16
tired [1] - 10083:28
title [1] - 10024:32
titled [1] - 10029:29
TO [1] - 10021:13
today [4] - 10052:12,
10077:10, 10088:41,
10130:28
together [4] - 10035:11,
10084:40, 10102:6,
10129:24
toilet [3] - 10056:6,
10056:8, 10061:5
Tom [4] - 10074:47,
10075:1, 10106:39
tomorrow [1] - 10062:24
tongue [2] - 10056:25,
10061:3
took [39] - 10027:7,
10031:14, 10037:22,
10040:6, 10054:45,
10055:25, 10056:44,
10059:9, 10059:22,
10060:35, 10062:44,
10063:11, 10064:46,
10067:12, 10071:28,
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10071:30, 10075:26,
10075:27, 10075:29,
10075:30, 10075:34,
10076:17, 10083:6,
10085:16, 10088:24,
10089:44, 10099:12,
10099:14, 10099:18,
10099:36, 10099:38,
10100:9, 10106:27,
10107:2, 10110:4,
10110:39, 10114:7,
10122:2
toothbrushes [1] 10083:40
top [6] - 10055:19,
10059:8, 10060:11,
10061:7, 10099:19,
10099:39
torts [1] - 10034:14
torts-service/regulatory
[1] - 10034:14
total [3] - 10033:9,
10048:6, 10113:42
totalled [1] - 10045:26
touch [1] - 10060:5
touched [6] - 10027:27,
10029:18, 10031:1,
10082:41, 10091:15,
10091:43
touching [3] - 10028:15,
10091:17, 10103:14
towards [8] - 10052:21,
10061:2, 10061:7,
10082:21, 10082:29,
10083:17, 10094:15,
10128:12
Tower [1] - 10021:21
town [3] - 10064:39,
10075:18, 10092:36
toys [1] - 10090:32
track [1] - 10054:32
tracksuit [1] - 10099:15
traffic [1] - 10110:24
tragic [1] - 10069:31
transcripts [4] - 10112:13,
10112:15, 10112:35,
10130:32
transition [1] - 10068:17
trauma [1] - 10086:44
traumatic [9] - 10051:2,
10078:3, 10079:1,
10086:16, 10086:21,
10086:31, 10086:35,
10103:23, 10108:44
traumatised [1] 10094:29
travel [8] - 10029:44,
10033:39, 10079:10,
10089:34, 10110:22,
10114:12, 10114:20,
10114:25
travelled [1] - 10128:29
treated [4] - 10079:16,
10086:45, 10087:7,
10090:33
treatment [2] - 10090:30,
10090:36
tree [5] - 10065:17,
10075:6, 10075:31,
10083:26, 10098:30
trial [14] - 10033:4,
10033:25, 10033:41,
10038:27, 10038:39,
10041:37, 10064:16,
10077:38, 10077:45,
10078:22, 10085:39,
10120:30, 10129:3,
10129:7
trials [2] - 10033:17,
10041:9
Tribunal [2] - 10066:10,
10078:20
tried [21] - 10027:25,
10035:11, 10054:5,
10061:8, 10061:43,
10068:22, 10068:23,
10068:35, 10070:29,
10074:17, 10074:45,
10076:32, 10078:38,
10079:8, 10082:22,
10082:33, 10083:47,
10084:3, 10092:11,
10106:28, 10108:24
tries [1] - 10103:15
trip [3] - 10059:28,
10076:6, 10084:32
Trotter [2] - 10049:10,
10122:36
Trotter's [2] - 10122:28,
10123:22
trouble [1] - 10092:12
troubled [1] - 10076:13
trousers [2] - 10061:5,
10062:34
true [9] - 10051:44,
10053:25, 10058:33,
10073:11, 10073:34,
10080:32, 10089:12,
10097:17, 10105:37
Truss [2] - 10121:36,
10125:44
Trust [2] - 10024:32,
10025:6
trust [9] - 10025:7,
10055:44, 10065:40,
10077:7, 10077:10,
10083:15, 10094:8,
10103:8, 10108:37
trusted [4] - 10054:11,
10079:35, 10106:17,
10108:33
truth [4] - 10032:25,
10049:45, 10105:18,
10111:24
truthfully [1] - 10029:32
try [9] - 10063:40,
10073:27, 10086:39,
10092:47, 10094:33,
10094:35, 10103:9,
10112:4, 10115:19
trying [7] - 10026:16,
10068:3, 10070:14,
10095:5, 10129:11,
10129:22, 10130:30
turn [1] - 10071:31
turned [11] - 10056:35,
10056:38, 10056:41,
10060:19, 10064:4,
10082:20, 10093:28,
10093:47, 10094:26,
10102:8, 10106:13
turner [1] - 10105:32
Turner [2] - 10072:45,
10105:25
turns [1] - 10038:12
twins [5] - 10062:3,
10062:5, 10062:9,
10062:15, 10063:32
twins' [1] - 10062:18
twitch [2] - 10067:33,
10067:34
TWO [1] - 10049:36
two [40] - 10025:25,
10027:41, 10030:1,
10031:35, 10032:14,
10033:47, 10034:22,
10049:32, 10053:35,
10053:39, 10053:43,
10059:32, 10064:8,
10067:41, 10074:5,
10075:23, 10076:16,
10081:1, 10081:22,
10090:12, 10093:14,
10098:6, 10098:17,
10098:19, 10099:5,
10102:11, 10103:25,
10106:1, 10107:42,
10107:46, 10108:2,
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10118:6, 10120:17,
10120:37, 10124:33,
10126:32, 10128:29,
10129:6
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typographical [1] 10130:8
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ultimately [5] - 10114:39,
10125:27, 10127:2,
10127:31, 10128:3
unable [4] - 10033:34,
10042:10, 10107:37,
10123:5
unacceptable [1] 10031:9
unattractive [1] - 10103:5
uncle [4] - 10058:21,
10071:20, 10108:31,
10108:33
uncomfortable [2] 10074:17, 10102:36
uncontrollable [1] 10106:7
under [18] - 10024:42,
10025:25, 10028:14,
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10035:37, 10046:1,
10055:16, 10055:18,
10060:1, 10060:6,
10063:41, 10067:3,
10074:18, 10091:16,
10092:20, 10103:46,
10106:26
undermining [1] 10031:28
underpants [2] 10029:24, 10091:18
understood [4] 10070:32, 10078:23,
10096:8, 10120:29
undertake [1] - 10039:44
undertaking [1] 10039:42
undertook [2] - 10121:42,
10122:1
underwear [3] - 10055:20,
10056:6, 10059:12
underwent [1] - 10102:25
undressed [1] - 10103:3
uneducated [1] 10069:28
unemployed [1] - 10102:3
unemployment [1] 10102:3
uniform [1] - 10061:29
unique [1] - 10025:11
unless [1] - 10049:43
unlikely [2] - 10033:24,
10072:9
unloved [2] - 10058:34,
10075:12
unsuccessful [1] 10031:28
unsure [2] - 10078:42,
10106:17
UNTIL [1] - 10130:40
unusual [3] - 10061:16,
10114:43, 10115:9
unzipped [1] - 10061:5
up [74] - 10022:28,
10028:25, 10030:41,
10037:10, 10038:12,
10038:37, 10041:10,
10054:44, 10055:13,
10055:16, 10055:21,
10055:27, 10055:32,
10055:36, 10057:30,
10058:9, 10058:12,
10059:26, 10059:35,
10059:46, 10060:2,
10060:7, 10060:8,
10060:16, 10061:15,
10061:17, 10063:23,
10064:4, 10064:32,
10064:43, 10067:10,
10068:2, 10070:7,
10070:30, 10071:5,
10072:44, 10078:37,
10080:9, 10081:45,
10081:46, 10082:21,
10082:34, 10083:16,
10084:2, 10084:7,
10084:21, 10084:24,
10084:35, 10085:10,
10085:29, 10086:2,
10086:4, 10086:14,
10089:25, 10090:23,
10091:2, 10092:31,
10097:3, 10097:40,
10098:26, 10102:33,
10103:10, 10106:4,
10106:7, 10106:42,
10107:12, 10108:9,
10108:15, 10114:26,
10122:33, 10122:41,
10125:41, 10129:25
upcoming [3] - 10036:17,
10121:9, 10125:46
ups [1] - 10091:45
upset [2] - 10100:3,
10101:6
upsetting [1] - 10109:10
urinating [1] - 10056:18
useful [1] - 10130:37
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vacate [3] - 10121:9,
10121:14, 10125:45
vacated [4] - 10044:28,
10121:35, 10126:6,
10127:6
vacating [1] - 10126:20
vacation [1] - 10126:16
vagina [18] - 10026:44,
10027:43, 10027:46,
10028:15, 10055:19,
10056:27, 10056:40,
10057:4, 10059:13,
10059:14, 10061:3,
10074:38, 10074:41,
10091:17, 10099:20,
10099:28, 10099:40,
10100:1
varied [1] - 10048:5
varies [1] - 10086:45
various [6] - 10024:22,
10030:47, 10032:12,
10078:17, 10107:38,
10109:8
ventilated [1] - 10127:31
verandah [1] - 10081:32
verbal [2] - 10075:29,
10078:44
verbally [3] - 10077:46,
10077:47, 10083:31
verdict [3] - 10044:36,
10045:44, 10048:16
version [3] - 10053:3,
10072:8, 10078:45
via [1] - 10119:27
vicariously [1] - 10034:4
vicinity [1] - 10038:18
victim [4] - 10032:10,
10048:41, 10049:3,
10055:47
victims [31] - 10023:31,
10023:32, 10024:14,
10048:36, 10048:37,
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10078:11, 10078:18,
10085:41, 10085:43,
10095:36, 10102:21,
10109:37, 10109:38,
10110:3, 10128:28
Victims [2] - 10066:9,
10078:20
view [23] - 10033:31,
10035:29, 10037:36,
10038:10, 10038:37,
10039:13, 10041:46,
10042:33, 10043:42,
10044:46, 10045:12,
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10125:24, 10125:33,
10126:17
views [7] - 10038:30,
10080:11, 10119:33,
10128:27, 10128:32,
10129:29
Vincent's [1] - 10097:42
violated [1] - 10057:6
violence [7] - 10082:13,
10084:42, 10085:1,
10085:44, 10114:28,
10115:14, 10115:27
Violence [1] - 10066:7
violent [8] - 10028:41,
10065:20, 10068:2,
10076:16, 10076:39,
10077:8, 10077:23,
10083:17
visit [5] - 10027:4,
10030:45, 10075:43,
10082:9, 10098:37
visited [1] - 10097:43
visiting [2] - 10058:17,
10058:20
visits [1] - 10024:36
voice [2] - 10067:25,
10068:44
volume [9] - 10049:32,
10072:5, 10073:15,
10080:7, 10088:42,
10097:1, 10104:34,
10122:37, 10124:35
VOLUME [1] - 10049:36
voluntarily [1] - 10023:14
volunteers [1] - 10113:29
vulnerability [1] 10051:17
vulnerable [1] - 10056:37
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Waa [4] - 10053:47,
10064:4, 10064:8,
10070:1
wait [1] - 10069:12
waited [1] - 10058:29
waiting [2] - 10061:17,
10061:25
waived [1] - 10049:2
waiver [1] - 10127:34
wake [1] - 10059:46
Wales [26] - 10022:14,
10022:40, 10023:29,
10023:32, 10024:3,
10024:15, 10025:6,
10025:38, 10034:2,
10047:1, 10049:12,
10050:41, 10050:43,
10051:1, 10054:47,
10068:41, 10078:19,
10081:4, 10090:5,
10095:31, 10097:39,
10101:24, 10106:13,
10113:44, 10113:45,
10128:31
Walgett [2] - 10054:32,
10114:27
walk [7] - 10038:15,
10044:42, 10056:10,
10066:19, 10067:10,
10067:32, 10118:23
walked [9] - 10056:24,
10057:5, 10059:36,
10059:38, 10059:43,
10060:7, 10060:16,
10063:42, 10102:11
Walker [1] - 10048:13
walking [5] - 10082:18,
10082:21, 10082:29,
10082:36, 10092:20
wall [7] - 10037:14,
10037:33, 10081:32,
10109:1, 10116:3,
10116:6, 10117:29
Wall [1] - 10115:45
wants [3] - 10050:34,
10051:33, 10072:25
ward [1] - 10026:3
wards [3] - 10053:44,
10054:3, 10065:23
wash [2] - 10092:6,
10098:26
washing [4] - 10060:11,
10060:14, 10081:46,
10092:7
waste [1] - 10071:27
watch [1] - 10070:20
watched [1] - 10082:35
watching [4] - 10030:20,
10056:19, 10064:47,
10119:40
water [3] - 10057:5,
10075:17, 10090:22
ways [1] - 10069:31
weak [1] - 10102:35
wear [1] - 10103:4
wearing [2] - 10099:15,
10100:11
Wearne [1] - 10098:44
weather [1] - 10099:16
Wednesday [1] - 10021:27
Wee [4] - 10053:47,
10064:4, 10064:8,
10070:1
week [3] - 10025:3,
10026:41, 10074:39
weeks [4] - 10040:2,
10041:20, 10106:41,
10120:17
welcomes [2] - 10050:41,
10050:44
welfare [7] - 10024:38,
10025:11, 10026:18,
10027:6, 10027:29,
10084:14, 10092:28
Welfare [10] - 10024:43,
10025:16, 10025:35,
10028:11, 10075:27,
10083:4, 10089:40,
10089:42, 10089:45,
10092:27
Wellman [1] - 10066:4
Western [1] - 10030:44
western [1] - 10031:23
wet [2] - 10026:35,
10091:9
wetting [2] - 10074:26,
10074:29
whatsoever [1] - 10065:40
wheel [3] - 10059:8,
10059:10, 10059:11
whilst [5] - 10038:21,
10095:45, 10098:25,
10101:32, 10103:46
Whilst [1] - 10101:41
white [1] - 10078:12
whole [5] - 10077:3,
10079:34, 10086:34,
10088:17, 10125:17
wide [3] - 10034:39,
10113:1, 10130:4
wife [4] - 10027:27,
10078:5, 10082:47,
10106:16
Williams [1] - 10082:47
willpower [1] - 10094:46
Wilson [1] - 10031:22
window [3] - 10029:26,
10062:38, 10063:41
windows [1] - 10029:18
Winters [1] - 10106:39
Winters' [1] - 10074:47
wish [6] - 10030:28,
10033:16, 10041:33,
10050:9, 10052:20,
10111:38
wished [2] - 10037:6,
10037:46
with" [1] - 10040:34
withdraw [2] - 10046:9,
10046:27
withdrawing [1] 10119:13
WITHDREW [3] - 10072:1,
10080:3, 10111:7
witness [29] - 10033:40,
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10049:17, 10049:39,
10049:43, 10051:25,
10052:1, 10060:21,
10064:15, 10067:44,
10072:5, 10073:15,
10078:3, 10080:5,
10080:7, 10080:9,
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10096:44, 10097:2,
10097:3, 10097:4,
10104:34, 10105:26,
10111:10, 10121:22,
10121:33, 10122:37
WITNESS [4] - 10072:1,
10080:3, 10111:7,
10123:14
Witness [1] - 10066:4
witnessed [4] - 10064:10,
10076:12, 10083:34,
10085:2
witnesses [20] - 10041:9,
10041:37, 10042:9,
10042:11, 10049:7,
10050:3, 10050:17,
10120:43, 10120:47,
10122:1, 10122:2,
10122:7, 10122:13,
10122:17, 10125:28,
10125:33, 10125:34,
10126:31, 10126:41,
10127:23
woke [1] - 10060:2
woken [1] - 10029:23
women [13] - 10028:38,
10034:41, 10079:35,
10087:47, 10113:2,
10113:6, 10113:42,
10113:47, 10116:46,
10117:8, 10117:11,
10117:43, 10128:24
Women's [48] - 10034:37,
10034:38, 10035:2,
10035:21, 10035:32,
10036:26, 10036:32,
10037:15, 10037:44,
10038:6, 10038:10,
10038:34, 10043:3,
10043:7, 10044:1,
10044:23, 10044:34,
10066:8, 10069:8,
10078:28, 10079:32,
10079:36, 10086:10,
10087:35, 10095:33,
10095:42, 10096:13,
10096:26, 10103:43,
10104:6, 10104:22,
10104:46, 10109:15,
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10110:26, 10112:47,
10113:5, 10113:8,
10113:27, 10114:19,
10114:20, 10115:34,
10121:40, 10127:18,
10129:39, 10129:43,
10130:7
women's [1] - 10085:6
won [2] - 10068:34,
10069:25
wondered [2] - 10040:16,
10118:11
wondering [1] - 10040:33
Wood [1] - 10049:14
Woods [4] - 10042:39,
10043:15, 10043:24,
10044:39
words [31] - 10055:16,
10055:37, 10057:27,
10058:13, 10058:23,
10059:24, 10059:34,
10060:14, 10060:17,
10060:26, 10061:26,
10061:32, 10061:44,
10062:22, 10062:24,
10062:36, 10062:39,
10063:7, 10063:10,
10063:17, 10073:38,
10075:10, 10075:12,
10082:24, 10082:30,
10091:36, 10091:47,
10097:21, 10106:23
worker [1] - 10032:15
workers [1] - 10083:1
world [4] - 10057:17,
10065:11, 10079:5,
10084:2
worried [2] - 10056:13,
10070:44
worry [2] - 10064:28,
10091:37
worse [5] - 10055:11,
10067:33, 10076:41,
10093:30, 10093:31
worth [4] - 10037:35,
10040:44, 10069:20,
10083:30
worthwhile [1] - 10104:46
write [4] - 10085:30,
10085:32, 10093:26,
10114:8
writing [2] - 10037:32,
10128:44
written [3] - 10044:15,
10078:45, 10086:11
wrote [18] - 10031:21,
10034:20, 10035:21,
10036:6, 10036:26,
10036:34, 10037:3,
10037:45, 10038:4,
10038:33, 10038:41,
10040:9, 10041:40,
10043:3, 10044:23,
10045:24, 10045:29,
10045:42
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yabbying [1] - 10082:6
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10024:20, 10024:40,
10025:31, 10025:39,
10049:1, 10053:38,
10057:36, 10063:4,
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10025:25, 10026:5,
10026:8, 10026:14,
10026:31, 10027:18,
10027:38, 10027:42,
10028:10, 10028:13,
10031:19, 10040:29,
10043:46, 10053:39,
10053:43, 10054:18,
10054:20, 10054:43,
10054:45, 10055:6,
10056:33, 10057:37,
10058:4, 10058:41,
10059:31, 10060:31,
10061:14, 10062:2,
10062:5, 10062:7,
10062:17, 10063:3,
10063:6, 10064:31,
10067:5, 10067:8,
10067:21, 10067:33,
10067:42, 10068:31,
10068:36, 10069:44,
10069:47, 10070:8,
10073:44, 10074:4,
10074:33, 10075:34,
10076:27, 10076:35,
10076:36, 10077:1,
10081:13, 10084:41,
10085:22, 10085:29,
10085:42, 10087:13,
10087:15, 10087:17,
10087:19, 10087:30,
10089:17, 10089:28,
10089:39, 10090:6,
10091:33, 10093:10,
10093:45, 10097:26,
10097:33, 10097:34,
10097:45, 10098:41,
10099:5, 10099:8,
10100:44, 10100:45,
10101:19, 10101:41,
10102:4, 10102:6,
10102:43, 10103:25,
10105:42, 10106:4,
10106:13, 10106:32,
10106:45, 10107:32,
10107:41, 10107:46
years' [3] - 10033:8,
10033:9, 10038:39
yelled [1] - 10060:7
yelling [1] - 10082:31
Yeomans [1] - 10049:13
yesterday [2] - 10111:42,
10111:47
Young [7] - 10036:20,
10036:38, 10037:6,
10039:40, 10041:2,
10041:3, 10041:16
young [5] - 10050:35,
10079:17, 10098:22,
10100:14, 10101:46
younger [8] - 10053:39,
10060:33, 10060:34,
10070:23, 10074:5,
10081:34, 10083:34,
10097:34
youngest [3] - 10081:11,
10102:17, 10103:15
yourself [3] - 10061:33,
10073:27, 10084:7
youse [1] - 10057:29
Youth [1] - 10025:38
Yvonne [2] - 10041:30,
10117:41
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zucchini [1] - 10065:8
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