Supplemental Material - Turnaround Management Association
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Supplemental Material - Turnaround Management Association
In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 KeyCite Yellow Flag - Negative Treatment Disagreed With by In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., Bankr.D.Del., May 24, 2007 369 B.R. 778 United States Bankruptcy Court, D. Delaware. In re GLOBAL HOME PRODUCTS, LLC, et al., Debtors. No. 06–10340(KG). | March 6, 2007. Synopsis Background: Chapter 11 debtors-in-possession moved for approval to implement management and sales bonus plans. Union representing certain of debtors’ employees objected. Holdings: The Bankruptcy Court, Kevin Gross, J., held that: [1] plans were incentive, not retention, plans, and thus not subject to review under bankruptcy statute restricting key employee retention and severance plans, and [2] plans satisfied business judgment and reasonableness standards, warranting bankruptcy court’s approval. Motion granted. Attorneys and Law Firms *779 Bruce Grohsgal, James E. O’Neill, Laura Davis Jones, Sandra G.M. Selzer, Pachulski Stang Ziehl Young Jones & Wein, Wilmington, DE, for Debtors. OPINION KEVIN GROSS, Bankruptcy Judge. INTRODUCTION The following is the Court’s decision on the Motion of the Debtors1 for an Order Authorizing and Approving Management Incentive Plan and Sales Bonus Plan (“the Motion”). Debtors seek approval for debtors Anchor Hocking Glass Operating Company LLC, Anchor Hocking CG Operating Company and GHP Operating Company LLC (collectively, “Anchor Hocking”) to implement what they refer to as a “performance and incentive based bonus plan” (“the Management Plan”) and an “incentive based sales bonus plan” (“Sales Plan”, collectively, “the Plans”). The Court received two objections to the Motion, one of which was subsequently withdrawn. The Court conducted an evidentiary hearing on the Motion on January 24, 2007 (the “Hearing”). At the conclusion of the Hearing, the Court announced that it would grant the Motion with the © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 1 In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 opinion to follow. Accordingly, this is the Court’s opinion with its factual findings and legal conclusions.2 JURISDICTION The Court has jurisdiction over this Motion pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 157 and 1334. This proceeding is a core proceeding within the meaning of 28 U.S.C. §§ 157(b)(2)(A), (M), (N) and (O). Venue of these proceedings and this Motion is *780 proper in this District pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 1408 and 1409. The statutory predicates for the relief sought herein are §§ 105(a) and 363(b).3 BACKGROUND OF THE CASE On April 10, 2006 (the “Petition Date”), the Debtors filed voluntary petitions for relief under the Bankruptcy Code and continue to operate their businesses and manage their properties as debtors in possession pursuant to §§ 1107(a) and 1108 of the Bankruptcy Code. On April 26, 2006, the United States Trustee appointed an official committee of unsecured creditors (the “Committee”). Global Home Products is a leading designer, manufacturer of well known, branded consumer and specialty products which it markets to retail and hospitality customers and to original equipment manufacturers. On the petition date it operated three primary businesses. Anchor Hocking produces beverageware, cookware, bakeware, home decor items, and glass components for commercial customers. Wearever produced metal bakeware, cookware and accessories and was recognized as a leading marketer and manufacturer of multi-branded metal cookware and bakeware products and accessories. The Burnes Group designed and sold ready-made picture frames, photo albums, scrapbooks and related home accessories. Debtors have sold the Burnes and Wearever operations pursuant to Court orders in the course of these cases. THE PLANS 4 A full description of the Plans in this Opinion would be lengthy and unnecessary for the Court’s discussion and ruling. A summary of the Plans is sufficient and the Court has attached the Plans as Exhibit A to the Opinion. a. The Management Plan The Court will describe the Management Plan and later the Sales Plan with liberal and often unattributed use of the descriptions in the Motion. This is a summary without arithmetic detail which is undisputed and better left to the information in Exhibit A to this Opinion and the illustrative detail Debtors have included in the Motion. In addition, Debtors presented extensive testimony at the hearing. The Debtors’ fiscal year began on April 1, 2006 (ten days before Debtors commenced their cases) and will end on March 31, 2007. The Management Plan would award each Eligible Employee, on a quarterly basis and as a percentage of their base salary, up to four (4) potential incentive payments (each a “Quarterly Payment”) payable if the Management Plan’s minimum EBITDAR and/or Cash Flow objectives are met at the end of each of the following periods: (i) the first six months of the 2007 fiscal year, which began on April 1, 2006 and ended on September 30, 2006, (ii) the 2007 third fiscal quarter, which period began on October 1, 2006 and ended on December 31, 2006; (iii) the 2007 fourth fiscal quarter, which period began on January 1, 2007 and will end on March 31, 2007, and (iv) the entire 2007 fiscal year, which ends on March 31, 2007 (each *781 of these aforementioned four periods is referred to as a “Quarter”). The Plan is comprised of two components: EBITDAR (“Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Rent”) goal objectives and Cash Flow goal objectives. The components are both weighted to count for 50% of the potential Quarterly Payment. In order to remain eligible to receive Quarterly Payments under the Management Incentive Plan for a particular Quarter, Eligible Employees must be employed © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 2 In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 with the Debtors as of the last day of the particular Quarter on which the requisite EBITDAR and/or Cash Flow objectives are actually achieved. Mark Eichhorn is Debtors’ Interim Chief Executive Officer and President of Anchor Hocking. In lieu of Quarterly Incentive Payments, the Management Incentive Program provides for an amortization based upon a formula of Mr. Eichhorn’s existing obligations owed to Debtors in the amount of $310,000 in respect of a prepetition loan and relocation allowance advanced to him prepetition in connection with expenses incurred pursuant to Mr. Eichhorn’s relocation from Illinois to Ohio (the “Relocation Obligation”). Rather than pay Mr. Eichhorn Quarterly Incentive Payments, the Debtors and Mr. Eichhorn have agreed to quarterly amortizations of the Relocation Obligation based upon a formula. Under no circumstances may the total amortization ever exceed the amount of the Relocation Obligation. In other words, Mr. Eichhorn bears the risk that the Relocation Obligation may not be fully amortized if the Debtors do not achieve 100% of the projected EBITDAR and Cash Flow objectives for the 2007 fiscal year. However, unlike other Eligible Employees, Mr. Eichhorn is not entitled to any additional benefit if the Debtors exceed 100% of the EBITDAR and Cash Flow objectives because, as noted above, the full amortization of the Relocation Obligation can never exceed $310,000. Debtors estimate that the total cost of the Management program will range between $890,000 (if the 75% minimum EBITDAR and Cash Flow objectives are each achieved during each Quarter), up to a maximum of $2,700,000 (if Anchor Hocking achieves 125% or more of its EBITDAR and Cash Flow objectives during each Quarter of the 2007 fiscal year). b. The Sales Bonus Plan Debtors’ Sales Plan covers certain sales managers (the “Eligible Sales Managers”). The Sales Plan is fully set forth in Exhibit A and is an updated version of the sales plan in effect at the Petition Date. Eligible Sales Managers are entitled to receive up to (i) 30% of their annual salaries based on the annual percentage increase of annual sales for their division calculated at the end of the 2007 fiscal year over the prior year, plus (ii) a 15% Target Bonus Percentage payment pursuant to the same terms and conditions applicable to the Management Plan. The Sales Plan also is divided into three categories: (1) the Debtors’ sales to Wal–Mart, (2) the Debtors’ international sales, and (3) the Debtors’ sales to other customers who are not included in (1) and (2) above. Each Eligible Sales Manager participating in the Sales Bonus Program falls into one (and only one) of the above three categories based on their job descriptions and the bonus calculations vary by category. THE OBJECTION The Court has before it the objection (the “Objection”) to the Motion of the United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial and Service Workers International Union *782 (“USW”).5 The stated grounds for the Objection are that “the Debtors have proposed a management compensation scheme that runs afoul of the obligations set forth in Sections 503(c)(1) and (3) of the Code, 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(1), (3), and have elected to do so at a time when management is seeking to extract deep concessions from the employees and retirees represented by the United Steel Workers.” (USW Objection at 1) USW is the bargaining agent for approximately 1,300 employees who work at Debtors’ facilities in Lancaster, Ohio and Monaca, Pennsylvania. USW also represents retirees and surviving spouses receiving retirees benefits from Debtors. USW complains that the collective bargaining agreement which covers the Pennsylvania Plant, with “significant pressure from the Debtors, froze the existing defined benefit pension plan, eliminated an incentive pay program, increased employee health insurance premiums, and reduced other economic benefits paid to the bargaining unit employees.” (Id. at 2) USW further states that Debtors are pursuing a similar agreement covering the Ohio plant, including a limitation on future participation in Debtors’ retiree benefits program. As discussed further below, USW argues that the Plans are disguised retention programs which fail to meet the requirements of § 503. In addition, USW contends that the Plans are “inimical to the principle of shared sacrifice that is common in chapter 11 cases.” (Id. at 7) © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 3 In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 THE HEARING At the hearing, Debtors presented the live testimony of Mark Eichhorn, Debtors’ Interim CEO and President of Anchor Hocking (“the Eichhorn Testimony”), Ronald Stengel, Debtors’ Chief Restructuring Officer (“Stengel Testimony”), and Jeff Visithpanich, Debtors’ expert witness (“the Expert Testimony”).6 The testimony of Debtors’ witnesses was largely unrefuted.7 The testimony of Debtors’ witnesses established the following pertinent facts. a. Eichhorn Testimony 1. Mr. Eichhorn has worked at Anchor Hocking since 1987, and was its President for five years beginning in 1994. (Hearing Transcript, 8–9, January 24, 2007) 2. The Plans are nearly identical to management and sales incentive plans previously in effect at Anchor Hocking since his time with Anchor Hocking. (Hr’g Tr. 9) 3. Mr. Eichhorn structured the Plans “emulating the prior plans” in existence in prior years. (Hr’g Tr. 10–11) 4. Anchor Hocking’s Board of Directors and its Compensation Committee approved the Plans unanimously. (Hr’g Tr. 12) 5. The 2006 management incentive plan resulted in no payments to management because the targets were not met. The 2006 sales plan generated bonus payments. (Hr’g Tr. 13) 6. The Plans were announced in June–July 2007 to motivate management to work hard to produce. (Hr’g Tr. 16) *783 7. Debtors set aggressive incentive targets for earning bonuses. (Hr’g Tr. 10, 14–15) 8. The participants in the Plans occupy the same positions as historically participated in previous plans. (Hr’g Tr. 21) 9. The Plans are intended to be self-funded. “So the financial targets that we establish for the business are net of the cost of any incentive plans associated with the business.” (Hr’g Tr. 23) 10. Funding for the Plans is incorporated in the Debtors’ budget and the actual cost based upon business results will be only approximately half of the amount budgeted. (Hr’g Tr. 26) b. Stengel Testimony 11. The Chief Restructuring Officer reviewed all aspects of the Plans and found them to be reasonable and in Debtors’ best interests. (Hr’g Tr. 53–54) 12. The Management Plan terms applicable to Mr. Eichhorn are debt forgiveness (costs of moving which Debtors advanced) in lieu of cash payments relating to relocation costs. The debt forgiveness rather than cash payments benefits Debtors because Debtors “live on limited liquidity, and to the degree that we wouldn’t have to pay that cash, the company’s liquidity would be enhanced by it”. (Hr’g Tr. 55) © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 4 In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 c. Expert Testimony 13. Jeff Visithpanich was retained to render an expert opinion “regarding whether the debtors [Plans] are reasonable because the payments thereunder are within market norms.” (Hr’g Tr. 58) 14. Mr. Visithpanich is a principal at Johnson Associates Incorporated, a compensation consulting firm. Such work involves evaluating, structuring and implementing compensation plans. (Hr’g Tr. 59) 15. USW did not object after voir dire to the Debtors’ use of expert testimony or Mr. Visithpanich’s competency to render an expert opinion. (Hr’g Tr. 64) 16. Mr. Visithpanich concluded that the Plans are reasonable, typical and common. They are within market norms based upon comparison with numerous companies of similar size and which, like Anchor Hocking, manufacture durable goods. (Hr’g Tr. 64–75) 17. Without the additional compensation the Plans could make possible, Anchor Hocking’s key employees’ compensation would fall approximately 35 percent short of the median compensation for similar companies. A shortfall of such an amount would be “a pretty significant business risk for key professionals, in this case.” (Hr’g Tr. 68) 18. Visithpanich concluded that: If we were to have a plan that was intended to motivate, to drive performance, to incentivize professionals, this is a very common plan we see very, very often. (Hr’g Tr. 74–75) DISCUSSION The Court’s decision turns on whether the Plans constitute a Key Employee Retention Plan (“KERP”), also known as a “pay to stay” compensation plan, or are intended to create incentive for management and key employees, or a “pay for value” compensation plan. If the Court finds the Plans are a KERP, they are subject to the bright light and restrictions of § 503(c). If they are plans intended to incentivize management, the analysis utilizes the more liberal business judgment review under § 363. [1] [2] Compensation issues are normally governed by the business judgment standards, i.e., proof that there is a broad *784 business purpose for an action. Dai–Ichi Kangyo Bank, Ltd. v. Montgomery Ward Holding Corp. (In re Montgomery Ward Holding Corp.), 242 B.R. 147, 153 (D.Del.1999) (affirming bankruptcy court approval of KERP on basis that debtors showed a “sound business purpose” justifying such approval); Cf. Myers v. Martin (In re Martin ), 91 F.3d 389, 395 (3d Cir.1996) (courts defer to a trustee’s judgment concerning use of property under § 363(b) when there is a legitimate business justification). The reasonable use of incentives and performance bonuses are considered the proper exercise of a debtor’s business judgment. In re U.S. Airways, Inc., 329 B.R. 793, 795 (Bankr.E.D.Va.2005) (debtor carried its burden of showing use of sound business judgment in adopting business plan). [3] In 2005, Congress made significant changes to the Bankruptcy Code. BAPCA, as the Act amending the Code is now called, took specific aim at Congressional concern over what it viewed as KERP abuses. The import of the BAPCA provisions dealing with KERPs was Congress’s effort “to eradicate the notion that executives were entitled to bonuses simply for staying with the Company through the bankruptcy process. BAPCA imposed a set of challenging standards debtors must meet to have ‘stay’ bonuses approved.” Karen Lee Turner & Ronald S. Gellert, Dana Hits a Roadblock: Why Post–BAPCPA Laws May Impose Stricter KERP Standards, 3 No. 14 Andrews Bankr.Litig. Rep. 2, 2 (2006). The question remains, however, whether or not the Plans are a KERP thereby triggering the Court’s post-BAPCA obligation to apply greater © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 5 In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 scrutiny under § 503(c). BAPCA requires the Court to apply specific standards if a bankruptcy court is asked to authorize payments to insiders8 for the purpose of inducing insiders to remain in a debtor’s employ, or payments made on account of severance. Section 503(c)(1) (3) provides, in part, (c) Notwithstanding subsection (b), there shall neither be allowed, nor paid— (1) a transfer made to, or an obligation incurred for the benefit of, an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business, absent a finding by the court based on evidence in the record that— (A) the transfer or obligation is essential to retention of the person because the individual has a bona fide job offer from another business at the same or greater rate of compensation; (B) the services provided by the person are essential to the survival of the business; and ****** (2) a severance payment to an insider of the debtor, unless— (A) the payment is part of a program that is generally applicable to all full-time employees; and (B) the amount of the payment is not greater than 10 times the amount of the mean severance pay given to nonmanagement employees during the calendar year in which the payment is made; or (3) other transfers of obligations that are outside the ordinary course of business and not justified by the facts and circumstances of the case, including *785 transfers made to, or obligations incurred for the benefit of, officers, managers, or consultants hired after the date of the filing of the petition. 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(1)-(3). The statute makes it abundantly clear that in a post-BAPCA bankruptcy case, KERPs and severance arrangements subject to review under § 503(c)—those whose purpose is to retain employees—are severely restricted. See, e.g., In re U.S. Airways, 329 B.R. at 797–98 (“Congressional concern over KERP excesses is clearly reflected in changes to the Bankruptcy Code.... Those changes will severely limit both the circumstances under which severance and retention payments may be made to insiders as well as the amount of such payments ...”). Section 503(c)(1) prohibits payments to “insiders” to induce them to remain with the debtor unless a court finds that the evidence establishes that the payment is “essential” because the individual has a “bona fide” offer from another entity at the same or greater rate of compensation, and the individual’s services are “essential” to the debtor’s survival. The retention bonuses are also limited in amount. Section 503(c)(2) permits severance payments to “insiders” only if they are part of a program which is applicable to all employees and are less than ten times the mean of severance payments given to nonmanagement employees. Sections 503(c)(1) and (2) are plainly high hurdles to clear if payments are primarily designed for retention. The entire analysis changes if a bonus plan is not primarily motivated to retain personnel or is not in the nature of severance. In the Objection, USW relies largely upon In re Dana Corp., 351 B.R. 96 (Bankr.S.D.N.Y.2006) (“Dana I”),9 in which the learned Judge Lifland held that debtors’ compensation packages at issue did not satisfy either the business judgment rule or § 503(c) limitations. The Court observed that the bonus plan “walks like a duck (KERP), quacks like a duck (KERP), it’s a duck (KERP).” In re Dana Corp., 351 B.R. 96, 102 n. 3 (Bankr.S.D.N.Y.2006). Finding that debtors failed to meet their burden of establishing that the bonus plan was not severance for purposes of § 503(c), the court also noted, even while rejecting the bonus program under § 503(c), that “it may be possible to formulate a compensation package that passes muster under the section 363 business management rule or section 503(c) limitations, or both....” Id. at 103. Dana I is not the end of the story in this Court’s analysis. In In re Dana Corporation, 2006 WL 3479406 (Bankr.S.D.N.Y.2006) (“Dana II”), the court encountered as a motion for reconsideration “Debtors’ second effort to obtain approval of an execution compensation package ...”. In re Dana Corporation, 2006 WL 3479406, *1 (Bankr.S.D.N.Y.2006). © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 6 In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 Debtors proposed that the revised plan was a true incentivizing package and a wholly different plan from the proposal the Court rejected in Dana I. Judge Lifland posited that: [S]ection 503(c) was not intended to foreclose a chapter 11 debtor from reasonably compensating employees, including “insiders,” for their contribution to the debtors’ reorganization. In re Nobex Corp., 2006 WL 4063024, 2006 Bankr.LEXIS 417 (Bankr.D.Del. Jan. 19, 2006); see also In re Werner Holding Co., Inc., Case No. 06–10578 (Bankr.D.Del.2006). *786 In re Dana Corporation, 2006 WL 3479406, *5 (emphasis in original). In arriving at its conclusion that Dana’s compensation plan was meant to incentivize, the court focused on the fact, as is present here, that: [A] short term incentive plan has been a common component of compensation plans at Dana for the past fifty years and does not differ significantly from Dana’s prepetition practice. Accordingly, it is within the ordinary course of Debtors’ business. In re Dana Corporation, 2006 WL 3479406, *10. The Dana II court then focused on whether the compensation proposal was a proper exercise of Debtors’ business judgment. The court, citing numerous cases, listed the factors courts use to determine, ... if the structure of a compensation proposal and the process for developing the proposal meet the ‘sound business judgment’ test: —Is there a reasonable relationship between the plan proposed and the results to be obtained, i.e., will the key employee stay for as long as it takes for the debtor to reorganize or market its assets, or, in the case of a performance incentive, is the plan calculated to achieve the desired performance? (emphasis added) —Is the cost of the plan reasonable in the context of the debtor’s assets, liabilities and earning potential? —Is the scope of the plan fair and reasonable; does it apply to all employees; does it discriminate unfairly? —Is the plan or proposal consistent with industry standards? —What were the due diligence efforts of the debtor in investigating the need for a plan; analyzing which key employees need to be incentivized; what is available; what is generally applicable in a particular industry? —Did the debtor receive independent counsel in performing due diligence and in creating and authorizing the incentive compensation? In re Dana Corporation, 2006 WL 3479406, * 6 (citations omitted). All of the evidence before the Court satisfies the foregoing factors sufficient to mandate the Court’s conclusion that the terms and adoption of the Plans satisfy the business judgment test. The only factor which Debtors do not squarely satisfy is whether Debtor used independent counsel in performing due diligence and authorizing the Plans. While the evidence indicates that Debtors did not use independent counsel, these are not “new” compensation programs but, instead, are nearly identical to plans previously used, and approved by a compensation committee and board of directors. In other words, the Plans have satisfied the independent “test of time.” The Plans are clearly in the ordinary course of Debtors’ businesses. The Court is wholly satisfied, and so finds, that the Plans are primarily incentivizing and only coincidentally retentive because Debtors employed virtually identical plans prepetition when retention was not the motive. The fact, as Debtors pointed out, that all compensation has a retention element does not reduce the Court’s conviction that Debtors’ primary goal to create value by motivating performance. All companies seek to retain employees they value by fairly compensating them. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 7 In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 USW argues pointedly that because the Plans include two plus Quarters of Debtors’ fiscal year 2007 which have already occurred (April through June and July through September) and a portion of the *787 third quarter,10 there can be no incentive. The testimony revealed, however, that the Plan’s beneficiaries relied upon Debtors’ historical practice of providing performance bonuses and that Debtors told the beneficiaries that they would ask the Court to approve the Plans. Thus, the beneficiaries were performing in response to a financial incentive and not merely to remain with Debtors. Moreover, the Plan’s beneficiaries are not required to remain with Debtors through the emergence from bankruptcy to benefit from the Plans. [4] [5] The Court is fully satisfied on the basis of the facts presented that Debtors are asking it to approve incentive, not retention plans and, therefore, § 503(c) does not come into play. Instead, the Court must determine if the Plans satisfy the business judgment and reasonableness standards. The Court finds, based upon the evidence which USW did not successfully challenge, that the Plans meet the standards for approval under § 363. 1. The Plans are calculated to achieve performance for Debtor’s benefit. 2. The cost is reasonable. 3. The Plans are consistent with industry standards. 4. The Plans are virtually identical to plans Debtors used consistently in the past. 5. The Plans are part of Debtors’ budget which the DIP lenders, whose money is at risk and whose financial acumen is apparent, approved. Wachovia Bank, the pre-petition and DIP Lenders supports the Motion. (Hr’g Tr. 86–88) In supporting the Motion, the Lender argued: This is not a situation where management has come and by virtue of bankruptcy filing maybe perhaps holding the creditor constituencies hostage to the fact that they have the history and familiarity with the company, have asked for large bonuses to simply stay around and be retained. (Hr’g Tr. 87) The Court agrees with Wachovia Bank’s point that “[Section] 503 is really inapplicable to the plan, in that it is a incentive plan consistent with ordinary course of business.” (Hr’g Tr. 87–88) Finally, USW importunes the Court to reject the Plans because its constituency has been asked to sacrifice benefits while the Plan beneficiaries receive bonuses. However, USW did not provide the Court with any evidence of “sacrifice.” In contrast, to the extent the Plans motivate management and sales people to create additional value, all creditors will benefit. Accordingly, Debtors have established that the Plans are not KERP’s but, instead, were reasonably intended to incentivize management and senior level sales managers to produce and increase the value of Debtors’ estate and are therefore consistent with Debtors’ proper exercise of their business judgment. The Court will issue an Order consistent with this opinion approving the Plans. All Citations 369 B.R. 778, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 Footnotes 1 The “Debtors” consist of the following entities: Global Home Products LLC; GHP Holding Company LLC; GHP Operating Company LLC; Anchor Hocking Acquisition Inc.; Anchor Hocking Inc.; AH Acquisition Puerto Rico, Inc.; Anchor Hocking Consumer Glass Corporation; Anchor Hocking CG Operating Company LLC; Anchor Hocking Operating Company LLC; Burnes © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 8 In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (2007) Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,001 Acquisition Inc.; Intercraft Company; Burnes Puerto Rico, Inc.; Picture LLC; Burnes Operating Company LLC; Mirro Acquisition Inc; Mirro Puerto Rico, Inc.; Mirro Operating Company LLC. 2 This Opinion constitutes the findings of fact and the conclusions of law of the Court pursuant to Rule 7052 of the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure. 3 Hereafter, references to section numbers are to the Bankruptcy Code, 11 U.S.C. §§ 101, et seq. 4 Prior to the Petition Date, Debtors had for fiscal year 2006 ended March 31, 2006, both a management incentive program and a sales bonus program for certain employees. Required financial objectives were not met and no payments to management were made. Certain employees satisfied the sales requirements for bonuses and those employees received their sales bonuses pursuant to Court order. 5 The Committee filed an objection to the Motion and withdrew it prior to the Hearing. USW is a member of the Committee. 6 Mr. Visithpanich is a principal of Johnson Associates, Inc., which specializes in the management and design of executive compensation plans. 7 USW cross-examined Debtors’ witnesses but did not present its own witnesses or any direct evidence in support of the Objection. 8 The Court is not deciding which of the Plans’ participants are “insiders” under the Bankruptcy Code, since the Plans are not governed by § 503 and the determination is not relevant to the holding. 9 Dana I was a bench ruling. 10 The Debtors filed the Motion on December 8, 2006. [D.I. 1043]. End of Document © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 9 In re Blitz U.S.A. Inc., 475 B.R. 209 (2012) 56 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 202 475 B.R. 209 United States Bankruptcy Court, D. Delaware. In re BLITZ U.S.A. INC., et al., Debtors. No. 11–13603 (PJW). | July 9, 2012. Synopsis Background: Chapter 11 debtors-in-possession moved for approval to make payments associated with earnings-based employee bonus plan for current fiscal year. Unsecured creditors committee and United States Trustee (UST) objected. Holdings: The Bankruptcy Court, Peter J. Walsh, J., held that: [1] plan satisfied vertical dimension of inquiry to determine whether transaction was in the ordinary course of business; [2] plan satisfied horizontal dimension of inquiry to determine whether transaction was in the ordinary course of business; and plan was taken in good faith and with sound business judgment, warranting court’s authorization of payments associated with first two targets under plan. [3] Motion granted. Attorneys and Law Firms *211 Daniel J. DeFranceschi, Michael J. Merchant, Julie A. Finocchiaro, Amanda R. Steele, Richards, Layton & Finger, P.A., Wilmington, DE, for Debtors and Debtors in Possession. Francis A. Monaco, Jr., Kevin Mangan, Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice LLP, Wilmington, DE, Jeffrey Prol, Mary E. Seymour, Lowenstein Sandler PC, Roseland, NJ, for Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors. MEMORANDUM OPINION PETER J. WALSH, Bankruptcy Judge. This opinion is with respect to the amended motion seeking authorization to make payments associated with an employee bonus plan (the “Motion”) by Blitz USA, Inc. (“Blitz”). (Doc. # 418.) For the reasons detailed below, I will grant the Motion. Jurisdiction This Court has jurisdiction over this matter pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 1334 and 157. This is a core proceeding pursuant to 28 © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 1 In re Blitz U.S.A. Inc., 475 B.R. 209 (2012) 56 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 202 U.S.C. § 157(A), (M), and (O). Background1 Blitz manufactures portable consumer gas containers, which are distributed through various retailers. Prior to entering bankruptcy, Blitz spent millions of dollars to defend numerous product liability lawsuits alleging injuries sustained in the use of Blitz’s gas cans. In part, the influx of litigation and rapidly escalating defense costs led Blitz to seek bankruptcy protection. In addition to the gas can business, the Blitz enterprise included F3 Brands LLC (“F3”), which constituted non-gas-can products. F3 was spun off from Blitz in October 2011. On November 9, 2011, Blitz and several of its affiliates (collectively “Debtors”) filed for bankruptcy protection under chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code, 11 U.S.C. § 101 et seq. Debtors continue to operate as debtors in possession, pursuant to sections 1107(a) and 1108 of the Bankruptcy Code. Debtors filed the Motion on May 5, 2012, seeking the Court’s approval of an EBITDA 2-based employee bonus plan for Fiscal Year 2012 (the “Bonus Plan”). Debtors argue that the Bonus Plan is an ordinary course transaction that Debtors are authorized to make without notice and a hearing. In the alternative, Debtors assert that, even if it is not in the ordinary course of business, the Bonus Plan satisfies the stringent requirements of *212 § 503(c)(3)3 of the Bankruptcy Code. The Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors (the “Committee”) filed an objection to the Motion, arguing that the Bonus Plan is not an ordinary course transaction and is not justified by the facts and circumstances of this case. (Doc. # 435.) The U.S. Trustee also filed an objection, taking issue with the amount of payments designated for certain insiders. (Doc. # 436.) On May 31, 2012, after briefing from the Debtors, Committee, and the U.S. Trustee, the Court held an evidentiary hearing. Debtors presented testimony from Rocky Flick, President and CEO of Blitz, and Fernando Maddock, director at Zolfo Cooper, the Debtors’ restructuring firm. Committee and U.S. Trustee called no witnesses. The Court asked the parties to submit post-hearing statements. Committee and Debtors submitted statements and supporting exhibits, and the issue is now ripe for decision. Discussion Creation of the Bonus Plan The Court makes the following findings of relevant fact regarding the creation of the Bonus Plan: • Since 1992, Blitz has offered an employee bonus plan as part of its compensation package. (Hr’g Tr. 16:4–5.) • At its inception, the program paid a bonus based on Blitz’s net income, but was changed to an EBITDA-based model in 2007. (Tr. 16:8–9.) • Compensation, including bonuses, is set by a four-member Compensation Committee. (Tr. 6–8.) All members are Blitz employees who are eligible beneficiaries under the bonus plan. (Tr. 46:25–47:2.) • The Compensation Committee meets biannually to review compensation, using yearly evaluations with employees and market-based data from Kenexa CompAnalyst (“Kenexa”). Kenexa, a subscription service, compiles data on salary broken down by job description and geographic region. The Compensation Committee reviews Kenexa data in comparing current Blitz salaries with benchmarks in the relevant market. (Tr. 8–11; Debtors’ Ex. 1.) • The FY4 2008 bonus plan—the first plan based on EBITDA—was designed by the Compensation Committee, who “worked with [Flick] and the Board [of Directors]” to implement it. (Tr. 17.) The Board is comprised of Flick and three outside directors who are not included in the bonus plans. (Tr. 48:7–9.) © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 2 In re Blitz U.S.A. Inc., 475 B.R. 209 (2012) 56 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 202 • The FY 2008 plan was modeled on one of a number of plans designed by Springfield Remanufacturing, a group of companies offering books and seminars on compensation. (Tr. 33.) • Springfield Remanufacturing’s philosophy of “employees having a stake in the outcome and how important that is to get employees motivated” influenced the decision to implement the FY 2008 bonus plan. (Tr. 33:10–13.) • The Compensation Committee sets the annual bonus targets. (Tr. 8, 35.) • The Compensation Committee’s recommendations regarding salary and bonus are approved by Flick and the Board of Directors in connection with the Board’s *213 approval of the yearly budget and business plan. (Tr. 15:10–13.) • The plan designed for FY 2008 is essentially the same in structure as the current Bonus Plan. (Tr. 17:23–18:1, 35.) Parameters of the Bonus Plan The Court makes the following findings of fact regarding the details of the Bonus Plan: • The Bonus Plan’s parameters and targets were set prior to the commencement of FY 2012 and prior to the filing of the bankruptcy petition. (Tr. 60.) • The Compensation Committee sets the EBITDA targets so that employee total compensation levels, on average, will be competitive with the market once three targets are hit. (Tr. 27:6–11.) • In previous years (2008 through 2011), the first EBITDA target was $6 million. The second target was $9 million, and subsequent targets increased in $3 million increments. (Tr. 19:1–2.) • In 2008, one EBITDA target was hit, and approximately $533,620 was paid to employees. Three targets were hit in each 2009 and 2010, for total payments of $1.6 million and $1.75 million, respectively. In 2011, none of the targets were met and so no bonuses were paid. (Debtors’ Ex. 4.) • In the Bonus Plan, the first EBITDA target is $5 million with $2.5 million incremental targets. (Tr. 19:2–4.) • The 2012 targets were lowered due to the spinoff of F3 Brands. The bonus plans in 2008 through 2011 included F3 Brands, which made up roughly one-third of the combined company’s sales. After F3 Brands was spun off, the Compensation Committee reduced the first EBITDA target for Blitz to $5 million, from the pre-spinoff level of $6 million. Although no written analysis was done to arrive at the reduced target, $5 million was chosen to reflect the loss in sales but account for Blitz’s greater efficiency and better margins. (Tr. 20, 49–50.) • All Blitz employees are eligible for the Bonus Plan. (Tr. 33:25–34:1.) • As in previous years, the Bonus Plan divides employees into five levels, depending on their job functions. The Compensation Committee determines the levels, subject to the approval of Flick and the Board. (Tr. 30:12–31:1.) The levels determine each employee’s bonus, as a percentage of his or her base salary. Level 1 employees would receive 4 percent of their base salary each time a bonus target is hit, while the sole Level 5 employee, Flick, would receive 67 percent of his base salary. (Tr. 31.) • With the Motion, Debtors are seeking approval for the payments associated with meeting only the first two EBITDA targets. (Tr. 18:10–12.) Only the first target has been reached. (Tr. 27:18–28:5.) • The achievement of each target would result in a total payout of approximately $427,000. (Debtors’ Ex. 4.) • Debtors’ DIP lenders have not objected to the Motion, and indicated to Flick that “they would be in support of paying the first incentive.” (Tr. 42:18–22.) Maddock also testified that the lenders have expressed their approval. (Tr. 174:11–13.) © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 3 In re Blitz U.S.A. Inc., 475 B.R. 209 (2012) 56 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 202 The Bonus Plan is an Ordinary Course Transaction Debtors argue that the Bonus Plan is an ordinary course transaction and thus need only be evaluated under the business judgment standard applied in § 363.5 Committee, *214 on the other hand, argues that the elevated standard prescribed in § 503(c)(3) should apply. Section 503(c)(3) requires that a payment out of the ordinary course of business be “justified by the facts and circumstances of the case.” Committee asserts that the Bonus Plan is not so justified here. [1] [2] A number of cases addressing an employee incentive bonus plan first examine whether the plan is a transaction made in the ordinary course of business. See, e.g., In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (Bankr.D.Del.2007); In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (Bankr.D.Del.2007); In re Dana Corp., 358 B.R. 567 (Bankr.S.D.N.Y.2006). In order to determine whether a transaction is in the ordinary course of business, the Third Circuit and other courts use a two-part inquiry. Nellson, 369 B.R. at 797; Dana, 358 B.R. at 580. First, the transaction must be examined on the “vertical” dimension, which “analyzes the transactions from the vantage point of a hypothetical creditor[,] and the inquiry is whether the transaction subjects a creditor to economic risk of a nature different from those he accepted when he decided to extend credit.’ ” Nellson, 369 B.R. at 797 (quoting In re Roth Am., Inc., 975 F.2d 949, 953 (3d Cir.1992)). In other words, the vertical analysis looks at the “debtor’s pre-petition business practices and conduct.” Id. Next, the court must look at the transaction from the “horizontal” dimension, that is, “ ‘whether from an industry-wide perspective, the transaction is of the sort commonly undertaken by companies in that industry.’ ” Id. (quoting Roth, 975 F.2d at 953). [3] Flick testified that Blitz has had some form of bonus plan since 1992 and an EBITDA-based plan since FY 2008. Although the EBITDA-based plan has only been in existence for three years prior to FY 2012, this is sufficient to establish a course of pre-petition conduct. With regard to the downward adjustment of the first $6 million target and the subsequent increments, it is foreseeable that Blitz would lower its EBITDA target as a result of the F3 spinoff. Given that F3 accounted for nearly one-third of the combined company’s sales, it makes sense for the target to be lowered where F3 is no longer part of the Blitz company. Thus, I conclude that the vertical test has been satisfied. [4] Turning to the horizontal dimension, I find that the evidence has demonstrated that an incentive-based bonus plan is common to the industry. Flick testified that there are only a few gas can manufacturers, and that the Compensation Committee relied on a compensation scheme designed by Springfield Remanufacturing, another Midwest manufacturer. (Tr. 33.) Springfield Remanufacturing publishes books and holds seminars on compensation in the manufacturing industry, and its advice is sought by many companies in the industry. (Id.) Flick further testified that it was likely that other companies had bonus and other incentive programs. (Tr. 13:24–25.) Committee has produced no evidence to refute Flick’s testimony on this point. I am satisfied that the Bonus Plan is in line with the bonus structures of other similar companies. [5] In light of the horizontal and vertical analysis, I hold that the Bonus Plan is an ordinary course transaction. The Bonus Plan is essentially the same as the *215 EBITDA-based plans the company has had since 2008. Even before the switch to the current model of the plan, Blitz has had an incentive bonus plan for its employees since 1992. Flick’s uncontested testimony demonstrates that the Blitz plan was based on a model from another company recognized for its guidance in compensation structure, and that other manufacturing companies have similar bonus plans. Consequently, the Bonus Plan is an ordinary course transaction that is not subject to the requirements of § 503(c)(3). See Nellson, 369 B.R. at 803–04 (concluding that the text of § 503(c)(3) clearly restricts its application to transactions outside of the ordinary course of business). The Bonus Plan Passes the Test under the Business Judgment Standard of Section 363 [6] Because the Bonus Plan is an ordinary course transaction, we need only see if it was taken in good faith and with sound business judgment. See Nellson, 369 B.R. at 799. I find that it was. The Bonus Plan was designed before the filing of the petition and with the same parameters and under the same process as the previous bonus plans dating back to FY 2008. The only changes to the Plan were made as a result of the F3 spinoff. It was reasonable for the Compensation Committee to reduce the first target and increments because F3’s sales would no longer be counted toward Blitz’s EBITDA; as Flick testified, the total of F3’s new bonus target ($1.75 million) and Blitz’s new bonus target ($5 million) exceeds the combined company’s previous target of $6 million. (Tr. 21, 123:5–12.) Committee argues that the Board approval process was incomplete because the exact targets were not disclosed and no written analysis was presented, but it has produced no evidence showing that either of these facts demonstrates a lack of good © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 4 In re Blitz U.S.A. Inc., 475 B.R. 209 (2012) 56 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 202 faith or improper process. Flick’s testimony establishes that the Bonus Plan was approved under the same process as the bonus plans in prior years. (Tr. 123:13–125:2.) Likewise, the fact that the average payment per employee is higher than in prior years can be explained by the loss of F3 employees. After the spinoff, the number of employees in Level 1, who would receive only 4 percent of their salary, dropped considerably. Flick, who as the sole Level 5 employee would receive the largest single share of the bonus payments, remains a Blitz employee. Comparing the total amount of bonus payments year over year illustrates this fact: the payments contemplated under the Bonus Plan are slightly less than the payments associated with hitting each target in FYs 2008 through 2011. (Debtors’ Exs. 4 & 5.) This difference is due to the loss of personnel, particularly in Level 1. (See Tr. 149:21–151:3, 191–92.) Thus, Committee’s argument that the contemplated payments under the Bonus Plan are too high is unfounded and unsupported by the evidence. Committee also argues that the targets set in the Bonus Plan are not a stretch and are thus designed only to reward certain insiders before the company is liquidated. To support its argument, Committee points to a document containing several scenarios prepared in April 2012 by Zolfo Cooper, projecting year-end EBITDA ranging from $8.8 million to $23 million based on two variables, price and market share. (Comm. Ex. 8.) Despite these projections, both Flick and Maddock testified that Blitz only passed the $5 million EBITDA mark in April of 2012. (Tr. 27:18, 185:24–35.) As of the date of the hearing, Blitz had not yet hit the second target and it was not guaranteed to do so. (Tr. 28:4–7.) Regardless of what scenarios were *216 projected by Zolfo Cooper—well after the Bonus Plan targets were set by the Compensation Committee—Blitz’s actual results show that it has just recently passed the first EBITDA target. When the Bonus Plan targets were set, Blitz’s budget for FY 2012 predicted year-end EBITDA of approximately $4.9 million. (Tr. 24:6–8, Debtors’ Ex. 2.) Therefore $5 million was a stretch at the time the Bonus Plan was designed, in September 2011. Committee makes much of the fact that, once the automatic stay went into effect upon filing of the bankruptcy petition, Blitz no longer had to incur the $10 million in product liability defense costs that it had listed in its budget. This reduction in costs, argues Committee, should have been factored into the Bonus Plan in the form of higher EBITDA targets. While the Compensation Committee certainly could have raised the EBITDA targets, I do not agree that the failure to do so invalidates the Bonus Plan as it currently stands. The actual numbers demonstrate that EBITDA has not skyrocketed due to the lack of defense costs. Further, the bankruptcy itself may have had a negative impact on EBITDA, as Blitz’s sales figures are down from FY 2011—some of this decrease may be due to the bankruptcy filing. (See Comm. Ex. 9, at 6.) Blitz also recently raised the price of its gas cans by 85 percent, which has had a negative impact on market share and thus sales. (Tr. 112, 126, 159.) Committee argues that the failure to reduce the target to account for the drop in defense costs rewards employees for a result that was not due to their increased sales efforts. This argument has no legs when one notes that Blitz did not move the target downward once the defense costs spiraled from “below $5 million” in 2008 to more than $10 million in 2011. (Tr. 177.) The Bonus Plan is intended to provide an incentive for employees, who are informed of the Plan’s targets and parameters during their yearly review, and have no control over the rise and fall of defense costs or the effects of the bankruptcy. Further, where, as here, the employees have known about the Plan since October 2011 (Tr. 39), rewarding them for hard work already done and encouraging them to continue working hard to fill existing orders until operations cease at the end of July does not smack of bad faith or unsound business judgment. Therefore, I conclude that the Bonus Plan satisfies the standard of § 363. Conclusion For the reasons described above, I hold that the Bonus Plan is an ordinary course transaction made with sound business judgment and in good faith. I will grant the Motion and authorize the payments associated with the first two EBITDA targets under the Plan. ORDER © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 5 In re Blitz U.S.A. Inc., 475 B.R. 209 (2012) 56 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 202 For the reasons set forth in the Court’s memorandum opinion of this date, the Bonus Plan is hereby approved, subject to the modification announced at the beginning of the May 31, 2012 hearing that the Debtors are seeking the requested relief with respect to just the first two EBITDA targets under the Bonus Plan. All Citations 475 B.R. 209, 56 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 202 Footnotes 1 The facts detailed in this section are undisputed by the parties. 2 Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization. 3 “[T]here shall neither be allowed, nor paid—other transfers or obligations that are outside the ordinary course of business and not justified by the facts and circumstances of the case, including transfers made to, or obligations incurred for the benefit of, officers, managers, or consultants hired after the date of the filing of the petition.” 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(3) (2005). 4 Fiscal Year. 5 “If the business of the debtor is authorized to be operated under section 721, 1108, 1203, 1204, or 1304 of this title and unless the court orders otherwise, the trustee may enter into transactions, including the sale or lease of property of the estate, in the ordinary course of business, without notice or a hearing, and may use property of the estate in the ordinary course of business without notice or a hearing.” 11 U.S.C. § 363(c)(1) (2010). End of Document © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 6 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 KeyCite Yellow Flag - Negative Treatment Distinguished by In re Fieldstone Mortg. Co., Bankr.D.Md., February 25, 2010 369 B.R. 787 Editor’s Note: Additions are indicated by Text and deletions by Text. United States Bankruptcy Court, D. Delaware. In re NELLSON NUTRACEUTICAL, INC., et al., Debtors. No. 06–10072 (CSS). | May 24, 2007. Synopsis Background: Chapter 11 debtors moved for approval of modification to their employee incentive plan for prior year. United States Trustee (UST) opposed motion. Holdings: The Bankruptcy Court, Christopher S. Sontchi, J., held that: [1] modification of employee incentive plan was within ordinary course of debtors’ business; [2] modification of employee incentive plan involved business judgment made in good faith upon a reasonable basis; bonus payments were not restricted or precluded by statutory restrictions on retention payments made to debtor’s insiders; and [3] statute limiting debtor payments to officers, managers, or consultants did not apply to debtors’ modification of employee incentive plan. [4] Motion granted. Attorneys and Law Firms *790 Laura Davis Jones, Curtis A. Hehn, Michael Seidl, Pachulski Stang Ziehl, Young Jones & Weintraub, Wilmington, DE, Brad R. Godshall, Alan J. Kornfeld, Pachulski Stang Ziehl, Young Jones & Weintraub, Los Angeles, CA, for Debtors and Debtors in Possession. Robert S. Brady, M. Blake Cleary, Margaret B. Whiteman, Young Conaway Stargatt & Taylor, LLP, Wilmington, DE, Fred S. Hodara, Abid Qureshi, Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld, New York, NY, Scott L. Alberino, Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld, Washington, D.C., for Informal Committee of First Lien Lenders. Kurt F. Gwynne, Thomas J. Francella, Jr., Reed Smith, LLP, Wilmington, DE, Claudia Springer, Reed Smith, LLP, Philadelphia, PA, for Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors. Richard W. Riley, Duane Morris, LLP, Wilmington, DE, James J. Holman, Duane Morris, LLP, Philadelphia, PA, Linda Dakin–Grim, Gregory A. Bray, Thomas R. Kreller, Jason B. Baim, Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCoy, Los Angeles, CA, for UBS AG, Stamford Branch. William K. Harrington, Trial Attorney, Office of United States Trustee, Wilmington, DE, for Kelly Beaudin Stapleton, © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 1 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 United States Trustee for Region 3. OPINION1 CHRISTOPHER S. SONTCHI, District Judge. Introduction Before the Court is the Debtors’ Precautionary Motion For Order Approving Modification To Ordinary Course Bonus Compensation Program For Employees [Docket No. 1222]. Through the motion, the Debtors seek the Court’s approval to modify the Debtors’ “ordinary course employee bonus compensation program” for the calendar year 2006 (the “2006 OCP”).2 The Debtors’ motion raises a number of issues relating to the interplay between section 363(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code, which provides that “the [Debtors] may enter into transactions ... and may use property of the estate in the ordinary course of business without notice and a hearing,” and section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code, which severely limits the Debtors’ ability to pay retention bonuses, severance, and other amounts. More specifically, the motion concerns the scope of the Court’s inquiry in determining whether to approve the Debtors’ use of property in the ordinary course of business to make payments governed by section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code. Is the Court’s inquiry limited to whether the Debtors are making payments in the ordinary course of business and application of the standard governing such transactions or does section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code impose additional criteria (and, if so, what criteria) that must be satisfied before such payments can be approved by the Court? In evaluating the motion, the Court must address the following questions: (i) is the Debtors’ proposed modification to the 2006 OCP a transaction or use of property that is “in the ordinary course of business” under 363(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code and, if so, have the Debtors satisfied the *791 standard governing such transactions; (ii) is section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code, which limits retention payments to insiders, applicable to an otherwise valid transfer made in the ordinary course of business to “an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business;” (iii) assuming section 503(c)(1) is applicable, is the modification of the 2006 OCP a transfer to “an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business;” and (iv) is section 503(c)(3) of the Bankruptcy Code, which limits “other transfers ... that are outside the ordinary course of business,” including payments to officers, managers or consultants, applicable to an otherwise valid transfer made in the ordinary course of business, notwithstanding the limitation on the face of the statute to the contrary. Applying the horizontal and vertical dimensions test articulated by the Third Circuit, the Court finds that the modification of 2006 OCP is within the ordinary course of the Debtors’ business under 363(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code. The Court further finds that the Debtors have satisfied the standard governing transactions in the ordinary course of business. The Court also finds that section 503(c)(1) is applicable to an otherwise valid “transfer made in the ordinary course of business to an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business.” Nonetheless, the Court finds that the modification of the 2006 OCP is not such a transfer. Finally, the Court finds that section 503(c)(3) is specifically limited to transactions outside of the ordinary course of business and, thus, is not applicable to the modification of the 2006 OCP. Jurisdiction This Court has jurisdiction over this matter pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1334. Venue of this proceeding is proper in this district pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 1408 and 1409. This is a core proceeding pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 157(b)(2)(A)(B), (M) and (O). © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 2 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 Statement of Facts General Background On January 28, 2006, Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc. and certain of its affiliates (collectively, the Debtors) filed voluntary petitions for relief under chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code. The Debtors continue to operate their business as debtors in possession under sections 1107(a) and 1108 of the Bankruptcy Code. The Debtors are contract manufacturers of nutritional bars and powders. As such, the Debtors do not manufacture or sell products under their own label. Rather, the Debtors develop and produce products for sale by their customers. 2006 Employee Incentive Programs In January, 2006, prior to the filing of these Chapter 11 cases, the Debtors implemented a key employee retention plan (the “KERP”) that provided for payment to nine management employees (all of which are “insiders” under section 101(31) of the Bankruptcy Code) in the aggregate amount of $710,000 upon the occurrence of the earlier of a termination of employment without cause or a “capital event” involving a sale of the Debtors’ business or a restructuring of its capital structure. Almost immediately after the filing of these Chapter 11 cases, in April, 2006, the Debtors implemented two separate incentive plans for certain of its employees. The first such plan was a management incentive plan (“MIP”), which replaced the KERP. Under the MIP, the Debtors established a bonus pool of approximately $1.4 million to provide incentive to the *792 same nine management employees (and insiders) covered under the KERP to assist the Debtors in the effort to restructure the Debtors’ business. Unlike the original KERP, payment of the bonuses under the MIP was to be earned by the achievement of certain EBITDA targets for 2006, which were described as “performance milestones.”3 After conducting a two-day trial on the matter, the Court entered an order in July, 2006, approving the MIP. Ultimately, the Debtors paid bonuses totaling approximately $550,000 under the MIP as the Debtors did not achieve all of the performance milestones. No further payments under the KERP or the MIP are due to any of the Debtors’ employees. In April 2006, the Debtors also implemented the 2006 OCP. The 2006 OCP is an employee incentive plan covering approximately 130–140 employees divided into six categories. Under the 2006 OCP, the Debtors established a bonus pool of approximately $2.1 million to motivate employees to “keep[ ] momentum going forward ... in both sales and EBITDA.” Hr’g. Tr. 40, Apr. 23, 2007. But see Debtors Ex. 2 (“For 2006, the purpose is to build EBITDA.”). The categories under the 2006 OCP and their respective share of the bonus pool are set forth below: Approximate Number of Category Description of Covered Employees Level I Management level officers, including the Chief Executive Officer, Chief Financial Officer and various vice presidents of the Debtors Covered Bonus Pool Employees (’000) 8 $1,037 © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 3 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 Level II Operational directors4 of the Debtors, including Director of Purchasing, Director of Manufacturing and Director of Finance 14 $490 Level III Managers, including R & D Managers, Materials Managers and Maintenance Managers 32 $469 Sales Directors Director level employees in charge of sales to customers 3 $27 Sales Managers Manager level employees in charge of sales to customers 5 $16 Line Managers/ Office Staff Employees responsible for managing the day-to-day tasks of the Debtors 71 $87.6 131 $2,126.6 Total For Level I, Level II and Level III employees, payment of the bonuses under the 2006 OCP was “totally based on achievement of the Consolidated Budgeted EBITDA level” for 2006, which was $43.2 million. Debtors Ex. 2. For the remaining employees, payment of the bonuses was based on other criteria, such as sales, *793 earnings or hours worked. Id.5 Under the 2006 OCP, the Level I, II and III employees would receive a bonus calculated as a percentage of base salary in the event the Debtors achieved their target EBITDA of $43.2 million for 2006. This “target bonus” was 50% of base salary for Level I employees; 30% of base salary for Level II employees; and 20% of base salary for Level III employees.6 In the event the Debtors did not achieve their target EBITDA of $43.2 million but achieved at least 93% of their target, i.e., EBITDA of $40.2 million, the Level I, II and III employees would still receive a bonus at 50% of the target level. Thus, under the 2006 OCP, if the Debtors achieved EDITDA in the range of $40.2—$43.2 million, the Debtors would pay bonuses of 25% of base salary for Level I employees;7 15% of base salary for Level II employees; and 10% of base salary for Level III employees. 8 The Debtors’ Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Jeffrey Dias, testified that the target EBITDA of $43.2 million established in March 2006 was a “stretch” and did not take into account the possible negative effects to the Debtors’ business that might result from the Debtors’ bankruptcy. Nonetheless, Mr. Dias testified that the Debtors set a target of $43.2 million of EBITDA because: (i) it exceeded the Debtors’ results for the last 12 months as of March 2006, which had been trending positively in late 2005 and early 2006; (ii) the initial reaction of the Debtors’ customers, employees and suppliers to the bankruptcy had been favorable; (iii) there was no reason to believe the Debtors’ performance would decline; and (iv) it would not successfully motivate the employees to establish a bonus program contingent upon the Debtors performing more poorly than the most recent operating results. Ultimately, the Debtors did not achieve their target EBITDA for 2006. In fact, the Debtors’ EBITDA for 2006 was $37.1 million or 86% of the target EBITDA of $43.2 million. Thus, under the terms of the 2006 OCP as implemented in April, 2006, no bonuses are due to the Level I, II or III employees.9 2007 Modification of the 2006 OCP Program Notwithstanding that the Debtors did not achieve their target EBITDA for 2006, in January 2007, the Debtors modified the 2006 OCP to authorize paying bonuses to all of the employees covered under the program. Under the modified 2006 OCP (as © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 4 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 adopted in January 2007), the Level I, II and III employees would receive bonuses in excess of those payable under the original 2006 OCP had the Debtors achieved EDITDA in the range of $40.2— *794 $43.2 million. In order to mollify the Debtors’ primary creditor constituencies, the Debtors subsequently reduced the bonuses payable to the Level I employees (including the Chief Executive Officer) to an amount slightly below that which would have been payable had the Debtors achieved 93% of the target EBITDA. The specific bonuses payable under the modified 2006 OCP to Level I, II and III employees (after the reduction described above) are as follows: Original Original Modified Bonus Bonus at 100% Bonus at Bonus at Modified Bonus Target EBITDA 93% EBITDA 87% EBITDA Pool at 87% (% Base Salary) (% Base Salary) (% Base Salary) EBITDA (’000) Level I 50%10 25%11 23.5% $ 487.7 Level II 30% 15% 22.5% $ 355.7 Level III 20% 10% 15% $ 350.6 Category $1,194.0 Total In addition, under the modified 2006 OCP, the Sales Directors would receive bonuses at 98% of the level that would have been due had the Debtors achieved their target. The Sales Managers, Line Managers and Office Staff would receive bonuses under the modified 2006 OCP at 100% of the level that would have been due had the Debtors achieved their target. The total bonus pool under the modified 2006 OCP for the employees below Level III is $130,000 compared to approximately $1.2 million in the aggregate for Level I, II and III employees. Mr. Dias testified that, notwithstanding the failure to achieve the lowest threshold for payment of bonuses under the original plan, the payment of bonuses under the modified 2006 OCP is justified because the Debtors’ failure to achieve those targets was not a result of any failure by the employees. The Board looked back across the year, said now we can understand at least some of the impact of bankruptcy and other effects on the business which were not the responsibility of either the management or the employees, and they decided that ... should not be a basis for denying people compensation when the things they could influence, they had done, frankly a great job on. Hr’g Tr. 62. Rather, Mr. Dias testified that the failure to achieve the EBITDA target was primarily the result of (i) a reduction in new business from existing customers related directly to the ongoing bankruptcy; and (ii) currency fluctuations that adversely affected the earnings of the Debtors’ Canadian operations. Thus, Mr. Dias testified that it made “good business sense” to modify the 2006 OCP to allow for payment of bonuses. The EBITDA target was set in an environment where we had no idea of the impact of [bankruptcy], and we said so. We told our employees—I told them that I didn’t want them to have in their mind thinking about any impact of [bankruptcy]. I wanted them to perform as though this was better than a normal year for the company. The numerical analysis when you do a look back shows that if you add © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 5 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 back the amount of money that was due to the hit on sales from bankruptcy, and you make an adjustment for the currency effect, *795 even by the very original rules of the plan that I presented to the Board, a 70 percent payment of target would have been justified. Hr’g Tr. 66—67. Pre–2006 Employee Incentive Programs The Debtors had previously adopted employee incentive programs for 2003, 2004 and 2005 that were substantially similar to the 2006 OCP. In each of those years, the Debtors established an EBITDA target, divided the employees into different categories, and established a bonus as a percentage of base salary based upon achieving the EBITDA target (with an increased bonus if the employees outperformed the objective and a reduced bonus if the employees underperformed the objective). In addition, in each of those years the Debtors made ex-post adjustments to the employee incentive program. Mr. Dias testified that: two things typically happen every year. One is, you design a program for that year that addresses the unique circumstances of the year, and then you also look back across the year, and the Board always reserves the right to make changes in a plan based on what it sees as operationally significant for the year. Hr’g Tr. 42. Thus, in early 2004, the Debtors decided to make bonus payments under the 2003 employee incentive program even though the Debtors failed to achieve the target for 2003. Those payments were at 30% to 50% of what would have been payable had the Debtors achieved the target for 2003. Similarly, in early 2005, the Debtors decided to make bonus payments to certain employees under the 2004 employee incentive program even though the Debtors failed by a wide margin to achieve the target for 2004. In this instance, the Debtors did not grant bonuses to senior management but did make payments to junior managers and other employees. Finally, in early 2006, the Debtors decided to make bonus payments under the 2005 employee incentive program even though the Debtors failed to achieve the target for 2005. The Debtors made bonus payments at 66% of what would have been payable had the Debtors achieved the 2005 target. The Motion and the Hearing The Debtors did not seek Court approval when the 2006 OCP was established in April 2006. In July 2006, during the trial on approval of the MIP, the Debtors’ counsel represented to the Court that the Debtors would seek Court approval prior to making any payments to employees under the 2006 OCP in the event the performance milestones under the 2006 OCP were not met. In March 2007, after negotiations with the UST, the Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors (the “Committee”), UBS AG, Stamford Branch, the agent for the First Lien Lenders and the Second Lien Lenders (“UBS”), and the Informal Committee of First Lien Lenders (the “Informal Committee”), the Debtors filed the motion. On April 23, 2007, the Court conducted a hearing on the motion. At the hearing, the Debtors’ Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Dias, testified in favor of the motion. In addition, the Debtors offered the testimony of a compensation expert.12 The Debtors’ expert, Jeff Visithpanich, offered the following opinions 13 at the hearing: © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 6 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 i) it is common for companies comparable to the Debtors to have bonus programs similar to the 2006 OCP; *796 ii) it is common for companies comparable to the Debtors to modify bonus programs in a manner similar to the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP; iii) the 2006 OCP as modified is reasonable because the total compensation (including base salary and all bonuses) to be paid to the Debtors’ Level I and II employees is within market norms for companies comparable to the Debtors; and iv) the payment of bonuses to the Level I, II and III employees under the 2006 OCP as modified is consistent with the Debtors’ payment of bonuses in 2003, 2004 and 2005. The UST opposed the motion, cross-examined each of the witnesses and submitted a number of exhibits into evidence in opposition to the motion. Counsel for the Committee stated at the hearing that, based upon the agreed reduction of the bonus payable to the Level I employees and the clarification that no further payments were due to any employees under the MIP or the KERP, the Committee did not object to the motion. In addition, counsel for UBS and the Informal Committee both expressed support for the motion. Thus, the motion has the tacit or active support of the parties with an economic stake in the outcome of these Chapter 11 cases. Legal Analysis The Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP is “in the ordinary course of business” under 363(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code and the Debtors have satisfied the standard governing such transactions. [1] Under sections 1107(a) and 1108 of the Bankruptcy Code, the Debtors (as debtors in possession) are authorized to operate their business. 11 U.S.C. §§ 1107(a) and 1108. Section 363(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code provides that, unless the Court orders otherwise, a debtor in possession may enter into transactions, including the use, sale or lease of estate property in the ordinary course of business, without notice and a hearing. 11 U.S.C. § 363(c)(1). In contrast, section 363(b)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code provides that a debtor in possession, “after notice and a hearing, may use, sell, or lease, other than in the ordinary course of business, property of the estate.” 11 U.S.C. § 363(b)(1) (emphasis added).14 Thus, whether notice and a hearing are required depends on whether a transaction is “in the ordinary course of business.” The distinction between transactions in the ordinary course of business and those outside the ordinary course of business, however, goes beyond the procedural requirements of notice and a hearing. “The framework of section 363 is designed to allow a trustee (or debtor in possession) the flexibility to engage in ordinary transactions without unnecessary creditor and bankruptcy court oversight, while protecting creditors by giving them an opportunity to be heard when transactions are not ordinary.” In re Roth American, Inc., 975 F.2d 949, 952 (3d Cir.1992). Indeed, “the discretion [for a debtor in possession] to act with regard to ordinary business matters without prior court approval has been said to be ‘at the heart’ of the powers of a ... debtor in possession, and courts have shown a reluctance to interfere, in the making of routine, day-to-day business decisions.” 7 *797 COLLIER ON BANKRUPTCY ¶ 1108.07 (Alan N. Resnick and Henry J. Sommer eds. 15th ed.2006) (emphasis in original). As such, if the Court determines that a transaction is in the ordinary course of a debtor’s business, the Court will not entertain an objection to the transaction, provided that the conduct involves a business judgment made in good faith upon a reasonable basis and within the scope of authority under the Bankruptcy Code. In re Curlew Valley Associates, 14 B.R. 506, 513 (Bankr.D.Utah 1981). Put another way, the Court will not disturb a transaction within the ordinary course of business if “the trustee can articulate reasons for his conduct (as distinct from a decision made arbitrarily or capriciously)” Id. at 513 n. 11a. [2] [3] [4] Although the determination of whether a transaction is in the ordinary course of business can have broad implications, “[n]either the Bankruptcy Code nor its legislative history provides a framework for analyzing whether particular transactions are in the ordinary course of a debtor’s business.” Roth American, 975 F.2d at 952. In order to determine whether or not a © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 7 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 transaction falls in the ordinary course of business most courts, including the Third Circuit, have adopted a two-step inquiry. Id. This inquiry consists of looking at the transaction from horizontal and vertical dimensions. Id. The test for the horizontal dimension “is whether, from an industry-wide perspective, the transaction is of the sort commonly undertaken by companies in that industry.” Id. at 953. The vertical dimension, which is also known as the creditor’s expectation test, “analyzes the transactions from the vantage point of a hypothetical creditor and the inquiry is whether the transaction subjects a creditor to economic risk of a nature different from those he accepted when he decided to extend credit.” Id. (quotations omitted). Under the vertical test, “the touchstone of ordinariness is the interested parties’ reasonable expectations of what transactions the debtor in possession is likely to enter in the course of business.” Id. Thus, a debtor’s pre-petition business practices and conduct is the primary focus of the vertical analysis. Id. The Court must “also consider the changing circumstances inherent in the hypothetical creditor’s expectations.” Id. (citations omitted.) [5] In this case, the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP satisfies both the horizontal and vertical dimensions tests and, thus, is within the ordinary course of the Debtors’ business. First, with regard to the horizontal dimension test, Mr. Visithpanich’s testified that not only is it common for companies comparable to the Debtors to have bonus programs similar to the 2006 OCP, it is also common for those comparable companies to modify bonus programs in a manner similar to the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP. [6] Specifically, Mr. Visithpanich identified 20 companies that he opined were comparable, based upon revenue, EBITDA and products, to the Debtors. Mr. Visithpanich “then analyzed, based upon publicly available documents, what [the comparable companies’] bonus plans look like and from analyzing those bonus plans, [determined] that the measures there are very similar to what we have at [the Debtors].” H’rg Tr. 137. Mr. Visithpanich testified that 12 of the 20 comparable companies have bonus programs containing measures very similar to those applicable to the Level I, II, and III employees as well as the sale professionals. Mr. Visithpanich further testified that 10 of those 20 companies had language in their bonus plans allowing for ex post adjustments and 6 of those 20 companies actually made ex post adjustments to their *798 bonus plans similar to the modification of the 2006 OCP by the Debtors. Moreover, Mr. Visithpanich testified that, because he relied upon publicly available data, the frequency of ex post adjustments may be even higher than he observed in that many of those cases where the comparable companies were not identified as having similar programs or making similar ex post adjustments there was insufficient information available to determine whether the company’s bonus program was similar to the Debtors’ program. Thus, Mr. Visithpanich’s testimony established that the horizontal dimension test is satisfied because “from an industry-wide perspective, the transaction is of the sort commonly undertaken by companies in that industry.” Roth American, 975 F.2d at 953. Second, with regard to the vertical dimension test, Mr. Dias testified that the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP is consistent with the Debtors’ pre-petition business practices. Specifically, Mr. Dias testified that the Debtors had previously adopted employee incentive programs for 2003, 2004 and 2005 that were substantially similar to the 2006 OCP. Each of those bonus programs established an EBITDA target, divided the employees into different categories, and established a bonus as a percentage of base salary based upon achieving the EBITDA target. Moreover, in each of those years, the Debtors awarded bonuses to some or all of the covered employees at reduced levels, notwithstanding that in each year the Debtors failed to achieve the target for that year. Finally, Mr. Visithpanich opined that the payment of bonuses to the Level I, II and III employees under the 2006 OCP as modified is consistent with the Debtors’ payment of bonuses in 2003, 2004 and 2005. Thus, the testimony of Mr. Dias and Mr. Visithpanich established that the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP was consistent with the Debtors’ pre-petition business practices—at least for the somewhat limited period of 2003–2005. As a result, the modification of the 2006 OCP is consistent with “the interested parties’ reasonable expectations of what transactions the debtor in possession is likely to enter in the course of business” and, thus, the vertical dimension test is satisfied. Id. The finding that the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP is in the ordinary course of the debtors’ business is consistent with the holdings of two recent cases where bankruptcy courts have determined that an incentive plan established post-petition by a debtor-in-possession for the benefit of senior management is in the ordinary course of the debtor’s © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 8 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 business. See In re Dana Corp., 358 B.R. 567 (Bankr.S.D.N.Y.2006); and In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778, 2007 WL 689747 (Bankr.D.Del.2007). In Dana Corp., the debtors sought court approval of an executive compensation package, including a long term incentive plan, but took the position that Court approval was not necessary with respect to a separate, short-term annual bonus program. Dana Corp., 358 B.R. at 579–80. The short-term program was a “refinement of the [pre-petition] short-term incentive program, reflecting the current business conditions and a reduction in the number of participants, and [was] similar to [the debtor’s] previous short-term incentive programs.” Id. at 579. Applying the horizontal and vertical tests, the court in Dana Corp. found that the short-term incentive plan was within the ordinary course of the debtor’s business. Id. at 581. In so ruling, the court specifically stated that a short-term incentive plan similar to that before the Dana Corp. court had “been a common component of compensation plans at [the debtor] for the past fifty years and does not differ significantly from *799 [the debtor’s] pre-petition practice.” Id. Notwithstanding the ruling that the short-term incentive plan was within the ordinary course of the debtor’s business, the court reviewed the short-term incentive plan “in the context of determining whether the overall compensation proposal is a proper exercise of [the debtor’s] business judgment.” Id. In other words, while the court did not rule on the merits of the short-term incentive plan, it considered the payments to be made under the short-term plan as evidence in determining the reasonableness of the long-term incentive plan, the adoption of which was not in the ordinary course of the debtor’s business. Indeed, in approving the long-term incentive plan, the Court required the imposition of limits on the total compensation payable to the covered employees based, in part, on the payments to be made under the short-term plan. Id. at 583–84. In considering whether to approve the long-term incentive plan, the court, citing numerous cases, applied a number of factors generally used by courts to determine whether a compensation program established outside the ordinary course of business meets the “sound business judgment” test. Id. at 576–77. A similar result was reached in Global Home Products. Global Home Products, 369 B.R. 778, 2007 WL 689747. In Global Home Products, the debtors sought approval of a “performance and incentive based bonus plan” for senior management and an “incentive based sales bonus plan.” Id. at 779, 2007 WL 689747 *1. The focus of the court’s opinion in Global Home Products is whether the proposed plans were retention or severance arrangements subject to review under section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code. Id. at 779–82, 2007 WL 689747 *1–3. In addition, while not specifically applying the horizontal and vertical dimension tests, the court found that the adoption of the incentive plans was “clearly in the ordinary course of the [d]ebtors’ businesses.” Id. at 786, 2007 WL 689747 *8. The court then found that the adoption of the incentive plans was a reasonable exercise of the debtors’ business judgment, applying the factors identified by the Dana Corp. court. Id. The modification of the 2006 OCP before the Court is very similar to the short-term incentive plan that the court in Dana Corp. found to be in the ordinary course of business. Because the entire incentive program before the Court in this case is within the ordinary course of the Debtors’ business judgment, however, the criteria developed in Dana Corp. for analyzing whether an incentive plan adopted outside the ordinary course of business is a reasonable exercise of a debtor’s business judgment are not applicable here. To the extent that the court in Global Home Products held that the Dana Corp. factors are applicable to an incentive program adopted in the ordinary course of a debtor’s business, this Court respectfully disagrees with that holding. Rather, since the modification of the 2006 OCP is within the ordinary course of the Debtors’ business, the Court will not entertain an objection to the transaction, provided that the conduct involves a business judgment made in good faith upon a reasonable basis and within the scope of authority under the Bankruptcy Code. See In re Curlew Valley Associates, 14 B.R. at 513. The evidence established that the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP involves a business judgment made in good faith upon a reasonable basis. Mr. Dias testified at length as to why the payment of bonuses under the modified 2006 OCP “made good business sense,” notwithstanding the failure to achieve the lowest *800 threshold for payment of bonuses under the original plan. [7] In addition, Mr. Visithpanich testified that the 2006 OCP as modified is reasonable because the total compensation (including base salary and all bonuses) to be paid to the Debtors’ Level I and II employees is within market norms for companies comparable to the Debtors. Mr. Visithpanich’s testimony on this point, however, is of limited utility because Mr. Visithpanich’s analysis did not consider financial performance. For example, Mr. Visithpanich did not analyze whether the compensation to be paid to the Level I and II employees was within market norms for companies with poor financial performance. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 9 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 Nonetheless, the evidence presented by the Debtors was more than sufficient to satisfy the relatively light evidentiary burden of establishing that the Debtors made a business judgment in good faith upon a reasonable basis. Id. Whether that business judgment is “within the scope of authority under the Bankruptcy Code” is discussed below. Section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code, which limits retention payments to insiders, is applicable to the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP. Section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code is the result of an amendment to the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, Pub.L. No. 109–8, § 331, 119 Stat. 23, 102–03 (2005), that was proposed by Senator Edward Kennedy during the Judiciary Committee’s mark-up of the bill. See Dana Corp., 358 B.R. at 575 (discussing the origins of Section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code). Although there is little in the way of legislative history, it is widely acknowledged that the amendment was a response to perceived abuses of the bankruptcy system by “the executives of giant companies ... who lined their own pockets, but left thousands of employees and retirees out in the cold.” Id. (quoting Statement of Senator Edward Kennedy (March 1, 2005)). In this vein, Section 503(c) imposes a variety of restrictions on the compensation that can be paid both to executives and other employees of companies that are in bankruptcy. Section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code limits retention payments that can be made to insiders of the debtor. Specifically, Section 503(c)(1) provides, subject to certain exceptions not applicable in this case, that “[t]here shall neither be allowed, nor paid ... a transfer made to, or an obligation incurred for the benefit of, an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business.” 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(1). Relying on Dana Corp., the Debtors argue that section 503(c)(1) is not applicable to the modification of the 2006 OCP because the modification was adopted in the ordinary course of the Debtors’ business. Dana Corp., 358 B.R. at 575 (“Section 503(c) ... restricts transfers or payments by debtors to the extent that such payments are outside the ordinary course.”). The Debtors argue that the holding in Dana Corp. is that section 503(c) only restricts payments made outside the ordinary course of business. As the word “only” does not appear in the sentence, the Court disagrees with the Debtors’ interpretation. Nonetheless, to the extent that the court in Dana Corp. so held, this Court respectfully disagrees. [8] [9] Nothing in section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code limits its applicability to transactions or payments made outside the ordinary course of business. The only limitation in section 503(c)(1) is that the transfer be “for the benefit of, an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the *801 debtor’s business.” 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(1). Under well-established canons of statutory construction, the Court need go no further than the plain meaning of the statute to determine its meaning. Perrin v. United States, 444 U.S. 37, 42, 100 S.Ct. 311, 62 L.Ed.2d 199 (1979) (The plain meaning rule stands for the fact that “unless otherwise defined, words will be interpreted as taking their ordinary, contemporary, common meaning.”). [10] This reading of the plain meaning of the statute is reinforced by the language of section 503(c)(3), which is part of the same amendment proposed by Senator Kennedy. Section 503(c)(3) provides that it is applicable to “transfers or obligations that are outside the ordinary course of business.” 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(3) (emphasis added). Under the principle of noscitur a sociis, the meaning of an unclear word or phrase should be determined by the words immediately surrounding it. James v. United States, 550U.S. 192, ––––, 127 S.Ct. 1586, 1605, 167 L.Ed.2d 532 (2007) (Scalia, J., dissenting). “Of course noscitur a sociis is just an erudite (or some would say antiquated) way of saying what common sense tells us to be true: ‘[A] word is known by the company it keeps,’—that is to say, which of various possible meanings a word should be given must be determined in a manner that makes it ‘fit’ with the words with which it is closely associated.” Id. (citing Jarecki v. G.D. Searle & Co., 367 U.S. 303, 307, 81 S.Ct. 1579, 6 L.Ed.2d 859 (1961)). The inclusion of the limiting language “outside the ordinary course of business” in section 503(c)(3) counsels against reading such a limitation into section 503(c)(1). [11] Thus, under the established canons of statutory construction, section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code is applicable to the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP, provided that the payments under the bonus program are to “an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business.” © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 10 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 Modification of the 2006 OCP is not a transfer to “an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business.” Having held that section 503(c)(1) is applicable, the Court must determine whether the modification of the 2006 OCP is, in fact, a transfer to an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business. As a preliminary matter, section 503(c)(1) only applies to transfers to “insiders,” which includes the directors and officers of the Debtors. 11 U.S.C. § 101(31). Only the Level I employees under the 2006 OCP are “insiders” as defined in the Bankruptcy Code. Thus, section 503(c)(1) does not preclude or restrict any payments under the 2006 OCP to the Level II or Level III employees.15 [12] The more difficult question is whether the bonus payments to the Level I employees under the modified 2006 OCP are “for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business.” “It is well established that ‘when the statute’s language is plain, the sole function of the courts—at least where the disposition required by the text is not absurd—is to enforce it according to its terms.’ ” Lamie v. United States Tr., 540 U.S. 526, 534, 124 S.Ct. 1023, 157 L.Ed.2d 1024 (U.S.2004) *802 (quoting Hartford Underwriters Ins. Co. v. Union Planters Bank, N.A., 530 U.S. 1, 6, 120 S.Ct. 1942, 147 L.Ed.2d 1 (2000) (in turn quoting United States v. Ron Pair Enterprises, Inc., 489 U.S. 235, 241, 109 S.Ct. 1026, 103 L.Ed.2d 290 (1989) (in turn quoting Caminetti v. United States, 242 U.S. 470, 485, 37 S.Ct. 192, 61 L.Ed. 442 (1917)))). [13] Any payment to an employee, including regular wages, has at least a partial purpose of retaining the employee. Therefore if the Court did not apply a materiality standard, all payments to insiders would be subject to 503(c)(1), which would be an absurd result. At the same time, applying a “sole purpose” standard goes too far. Thus, the Court reads section 503(c)(1) to mean “a transfer made to ... an insider of the debtor for the [primary] purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business.” 11 U.S.C § 503(c)(1) (emphasis added). This reading of section 503(c)(1) is consistent with the holdings in Dana Corp. and Global Home Products. The court in Dana Corp. held that “merely because a plan has some retentive effect does not mean that the plan, overall, is retentive rather than incentivizing in nature.” Dana Corp., 358 B.R. at 571. The court then held that “[b]y presenting an executive compensation package that properly [motivates senior management] to produce and increase the value of the estate, the [debtor has] established that section 503(c)(1) does not apply to [the debtor’s motion].” Id. at 584. Similarly, in discussing whether a bonus plan satisfies the criteria of section 503(c), the court in Global Home Products noted that “[t]he entire analysis changes if a bonus plan is not primarily motivated to retain personnel.” Global Home Products, 369 B.R. at 785, 2007 WL 689747 at *6 (emphasis added). The court went on to find that: [the bonus plans] are primarily incentivizing and only coincidently retentive because [the debtors] employed virtually identical plans prepetition when retention was not the motive. The fact, as [the debtors] pointed out, that all compensation has a retention element does not reduce the Court’s conviction that [the debtor’s] primary goal [is] to create value by motivating performance. All companies seek to retain employees by fairly compensating them. Id. at 786, 2007 WL 689747 *8. Under the facts of this case, although the modification of the 2006 bonus program has some retentive effect, it is for the primary purpose of motivating employees and, thus, the limitations of section 503(c)(1) are not applicable. Mr. Dias testified that the 2006 OCP was designed to motivate employees to “keep[ ] momentum going forward ... in both sales and EBITDA.” He further testified that the target EBITDA of $43.2 million established in March 2006 was a “stretch” and did not take into account the possible negative effects to the Debtors’ business that might result from the Debtors’ bankruptcy. 16 Mr. Dias also testified that the payment of bonuses under the modified 2006 OCP is justified, notwithstanding the failure to *803 achieve the lowest threshold for payment of bonuses under the original plan, because the Debtors’ failure to achieve those targets was not a result of any failure by the employees, who, in fact, had done a “great job.” Thus, Mr. Dias testified that it made “good business sense” to modify the 2006 OCP to allow for payment of bonuses even though the Debtors missed their EBITDA target. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 11 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 Finally, both Mr. Dias and Mr. Visithpanich testified that the payment of bonuses under the modified 2006 OCP was consistent with the Debtors’ pre-petition practices. Mr. Dias went on to testify that departing from the pre-petition practice would have an adverse affect on employee morale. The UST argues with some force that if an incentive plan is based on achievement of EBITDA targets and those targets are not achieved, yet the bonus is still received, that the plan cannot be an incentive plan but must, in fact, be solely a retention plan. [I]f you have an incentive plan that’s analyzed after the fact and the incentive plan is based on achievement of EBITDA targets and you don’t achieve those EBITDA targets but yet you still get a bonus ... I don’t understand what other purpose it could serve other than to be a retention plan when the threat is that it will cause destruction, and these people will leave. Hr’g Tr. 196. While the Court agrees that the payment of bonuses under the modified 2006 OCP has some retentive effect, the Court disagrees with the UST’s argument that its sole or primary purpose is retention. Consistent with the Debtors’ pre-petition practice, the 2006 OCP must be considered as a whole. It consists of two parts: the establishment of “aspirational goals” in the early part of the year; and a review at the end of the year to consider whether those goals have been met and, if not, why. In this case, the Debtors’ did just that and determined that the 2006 OCP served its purpose by motivating the employees to do a “great job” in connection with the matters that those employees could reasonably be expected to influence. As such, the Debtors seek to award bonuses at a reduced level to compensate the employees for their success (albeit somewhat limited) in 2006 and to motivate the employees in 2007. Thus, the Court finds that the bonus payments to the Level I employees under the modified 2006 OCP are not for the primary purpose of inducing the Level I employees to remain with the Debtors’ business and, thus, they are not precluded or restricted by section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code. Section 503(c)(3) of the Bankruptcy Code, which limits payments to officers, managers or consultants, is not applicable to the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP. [14] Section 503(c)(3) of the Bankruptcy Code limits payment of obligations outside of the ordinary course of business that are not covered by subsection (1) or (2), providing: [there shall neither be allowed, nor paid-] (3) other transfers or obligations that are outside the ordinary course of business and not justified by the facts and circumstances of the case, including transfers made to, or obligations incurred for the benefit of, officers, managers, or consultants hired after the date of the filing of the petition. 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(3). Section 503(c)(3) applies to “officers, managers, or consultants”—a broad category of employees that includes all Level I, II and III employees under the 2006 *804 OCP.17 Nonetheless, section 503(c)(3) only limits “transfers or obligations that are outside the ordinary course of business.” 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(3) (emphasis added). As discussed at length above, the Court finds that the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP was in the ordinary course of the Debtors’ business. Thus, under the plain meaning of the statute, section 503(c)(3) is simply inapplicable here. Perrin, 444 U.S. at 42, 100 S.Ct. 311. The UST argues that section 503(c)(3) should not be read so restrictively. Rather, the UST argues that section 503(c)(3) requires that all transfers to officers, managers, or consultants, including transfers outside the ordinary course of business, must be justified by the facts and circumstances of the case. The Court disagrees with the UST’s reading of the statute. In effect, the UST wants to rewrite section 503(c)(3) to read as follows: © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 12 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 [there shall neither be allowed, nor paid-] (3) other transfers or obligations that are outside the ordinary course of business and not justified by the facts and circumstances of the case, including transfers outside the ordinary course of business and made to, or obligations incurred for the benefit of, officers, managers, or consultants hired after the date of the filing of the petition. In other words, the UST wants to read the phrase “outside the ordinary course of business” as illustrative as opposed to exclusive. While Senator Kennedy could certainly have written his amendment that way, he did not. Moreover, reading the statute as written does not lead to an absurd result. See Lamie, 540 U.S. at 534, 124 S.Ct. 1023 (Where the disposition required by the text is not absurd the function of the Court is to apply the text as written). Indeed, such a reading is wholly consistent with section 363 of the Bankruptcy Code, which is the source of the distinction between transfers within and outside the ordinary course of business and is “designed to allow a trustee (or debtor in possession) the flexibility to engage in ordinary transactions without unnecessary creditor and bankruptcy court oversight, while protecting creditors by giving them an opportunity to be heard when transactions are not ordinary.” Roth American, 975 F.2d at 952. Thus, under the plain meaning of section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code, the statute is inapplicable to the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP.18 Conclusion In this case and under the facts established at the hearing, the Court finds that the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP was within the ordinary course of the Debtors’ business. The Court further finds that section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code is not applicable because the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP was not for the primary purpose of inducing employees to remain with the Debtors’ business. Because section 503(c)(3) is also not applicable, the Court’s inquiry is limited to the standard under section 363(c)(1), i.e., whether the Debtors’ modification of the 2006 OCP was a business judgment made in good faith upon a reasonable basis and within the scope of authority under *805 the Bankruptcy Code, which the Court finds satisfied. Debtors’ counsel is instructed to submit a proposed order consistent with this opinion under certification of counsel. All Citations 369 B.R. 787, 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 Footnotes 1 This Opinion constitutes the findings of fact and conclusions of law of the court pursuant to Federal Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 7052, which is made applicable to contested matters by Federal Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 9014. 2 The Debtors did not seek Court approval when they established the 2006 OCP in April, 2006. 3 “EBITDA” means earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. 4 The Debtors’ use of “director” in describing certain of its employees does not mean that these employees are members of the board of directors. In fact, the only employee that is also a member of the board of directors is the Debtors’ Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Dias. Hr’g Tr. 45–50. 5 At the conclusion of the hearing on the motion, the UST withdrew her objection to the 2006 OCP as it pertains to Sales Directors, Sales Managers and Line Managers/Office Staff and the Court entered an order approving bonuses for those employees. Thus, the Court will focus its recitation of the facts to those applicable to the Level I, II and III employees. 6 The “target bonus” for the Debtors’ Chief Executive Officer was 60% of base salary. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 13 In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (2007) 48 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 96 7 30% for the Debtors’ Chief Executive Officer. 8 The Debtors’ Chief Executive Officer testified that he was authorized to pay bonuses under the 2006 OCP if the Debtors achieved 90% of target EBITDA. Nonetheless, the documentation implementing the 2006 OCP established 93% of target EBITDA as the minimum threshold for payment of bonuses. 9 In addition, under the terms of the 2006 OCP as implemented in April, 2006, no bonuses are due to the Sales Directors, Sales Managers or Office Staff. It is unclear from the record whether any bonuses are due to the Line Managers. 10 60% for the Debtors’ Chief Executive Officer. 11 30% for the Debtors’ Chief Executive Officer. 12 The Debtors also submitted numerous exhibits into evidence in support of the motion. 13 Mr. Visithpanich was qualified under Rule 702 of the Federal Rules of Evidence (without objection) as an expert in compensation. 14 Absent notice and a hearing, a transaction outside the ordinary course of business is avoidable. 11 U.S.C. § 549(a)(2)(B). 15 Neither does section 503(c)(1) restrict any payments to the Sales Directors, Sales Managers, Office Staff or Line Managers. 16 The testimony that the target EBITDA of $43.2 million established in March 2006 was a “stretch” is consistent with previous evidence before this Court in connection with a different matter. See In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., No. 06–10072(CSS), 2007 WL 201134 at *13–14, 2007 Bankr.LEXIS 99 at *38–9 (Bankr.D.Del. Jan. 18, 2007) (In April, 2006, “Mr. Dias proposed a base revenue goal of $305 million and EBITDA of $41.05, with the previous goals suggested at the March 16 Board Meeting of revenue $314 and EBITDA $43.02 being relegated to ‘stretch’ goals.”) (emphasis added). 17 In addition, it would appear that the employees in the Sales Directors, Sales Managers and Line Managers categories under the 2006 OCP are covered by this section. It is unclear whether any employees in the Office Staff category are covered. 18 Having determined that section 503(c)(3) is inapplicable, the Court need not determine whether the modification of the 2006 OCP is “justified by the facts and circumstances of the case.” End of Document © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 14 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 KeyCite Yellow Flag - Negative Treatment Distinguished by Aleynikov v. Goldman Sachs Group, Inc., D.N.J., October 22, 2013 408 B.R. 573 United States Bankruptcy Court, D. Delaware. In re FOOTHILLS TEXAS, INC., et al., Debtors. No. 09–10452. | July 28, 2009. Synopsis Background: Motion was filed for leave to pay retention bonuses to employees who, while holding title of “vice president,” were allegedly not “officers” of debtor and thus not insiders. Holdings: The Bankruptcy Court, Christopher S. Sontchi, J., held that: mere fact that employees to whom Chapter 11 debtor sought to make retention payments both held title of “vice president” was not determinative of whether they were, in fact, “officers” of debtor, and thus “insiders,” for purpose of bankruptcy statute limiting debtor’s ability to make retention payments to insiders; [1] in order to rebut presumption that employees were “officers,” debtor had to submit evidence sufficient that they did not actually participate in management of debtor; and [2] employees were “officers” of debtor in fact as well as in name and qualified as statutory “insiders,” to whom debtor’s ability to pay retention bonuses was limited by statute. [3] Motion denied. Attorneys and Law Firms *574 Norman L. Pernick, Patrick J. Reilley, Cole, Schotz, Meisel, Forman & Leonard, P.A., Wilmington, DE, Charles R. Gibbs (Argued), David F. Staber, Sarah Link Schultz, Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, LLP, Dallas, TX, for Debtors and Debtors in Possession. Joseph J. McMahon, Jr. (Argued), Trial Attorney, United States Department of Justice, Office of the United States Trustee, Wilmington, DE, for Roberta A. DeAngelis, Acting United States Trustee. OPINION 1 CHRISTOPHER S. SONTCHI, Bankruptcy Judge. INTRODUCTION Before the Court is the Debtors’ motion seeking authorization to pay retention bonuses to two persons who are vice © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 1 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 presidents of the Debtors. Section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code governs payments for the purpose of inducing an insider to remain with the debtor’s business. In order for a debtor to make such payments the criteria of section 503(c)(1) must be satisfied. The issue in this case is whether the recipients are insiders? If not, section 503(c)(1) is inapplicable and the payments can, in all likelihood, be made. “Insider” is defined under the Bankruptcy Code by providing a non-exclusive list of persons, which includes an “officer of the debtor.” The employees in this case are “vice presidents.” Under the plain meaning of the words, a vice president is an officer. A person holding an officer’s title is presumptively an officer and, thus, an insider. A party seeking to rebut that presumption must present evidence sufficient to establish that the person holds the title *575 of an officer in name only and, in fact, does not meet the substantive definition of the same, i.e., he or she is not taking part in the management of the debtor. In this case, the two persons at issue are presumptively officers and insiders by virtue of their job titles. Moreover, based upon the evidence submitted at the hearing, both participate in the management of the Debtors and are, in fact, officers and insiders. The Debtors did not submit any evidence that would support a finding that the criteria of section 503(c)(1) are satisfied. Thus, the motion seeking authorization to pay the retention bonuses will be denied. JURISDICTION This Court has jurisdiction over this matter pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1334. Venue is proper in this district pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 1408 and 1409. This is a core proceeding pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 157(b)(2)(B), (M), and (O). STATEMENT OF FACTS 2 The facts of this case are straight forward. Foothills Resources, Inc. (“Foothills”) and its subsidiaries (collectively, the “Debtors”) filed Chapter 11 in February, 2009. The Debtors are independent energy companies engaged in the acquisition, exploration, exploitation and development of oil and natural gas properties. The Debtors have 10 employees. I. The Employment Agreements In 2006, Foothills hired James H. Drennan as its Vice President, Land and Legal and the parties entered into an employment agreement. In October, 2008, Foothills and Mr. Drennan entered into a modification of his employment agreement, which provides, among other things, that if Mr. Drennan is employed on June 30, 2009 he is entitled to a one-time payment of 75% of his annual salary, i.e., $112,500.3 Mr. Drennan remained employed by Foothills through June 30, 2009, and, if the modified employment agreement is assumed he will be entitled to receive a retention payment of $112,500. In 2006, Foothills also hired Michael Moustakis as its Vice President, Engineering and the parties entered into an employment agreement. As with Mr. Drennan, in October, 2008, Foothills and Mr. Moustakis entered into a modification of his employment agreement, which provides, among other things, that if Mr. Moustakis is employed on June 30, 2009, he is entitled to a one-time payment of 75% of his annual salary, i.e., $135,000. 4 Mr. Moustakis remained employed by Foothills through June 30, 2009, and, if the modified employment agreement is assumed he will be entitled to receive a retention payment of $135,000.5 *576 II. Debtors’ Organizational Structure The Debtors’ Chief Financial Officer was the sole witness at the hearing in this matter. He stated that the Debtors’ senior management team consists of the Chief Executive Officer, the President and himself. These persons supervise the day to day management of the Debtors as a whole. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 2 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 Mr. Drennan is the Vice President, Land and Legal. His responsibilities include overseeing the Debtors’ oil and gas leases and communicating with landlords regarding those leases. In addition, Mr. Drennan is responsible for ensuring the Debtors are in compliance with state and federal laws and regulations and communicating with governmental authorities regarding the same. Finally, Mr. Drennan provides “land and legal support” to the Debtors and their lenders. Mr. Drennan reports to the President and is not a member of senior management. He does not play any role in making operational, tactical or strategic decisions for the Debtors. He is the sole employee in the Land and Legal Division and he does not supervise any employees. The Debtors’ CFO testified that, as a result of the Debtors’ small size and their inability to pay competitive compensation, their sole motivation in offering Mr. Drennan a title was to assist in enticing him to work for the Debtors. He further testified that Mr. Drennan’s job is the “functional ... equivalent of a manager” and that he would have been denominated as such if he had not been offered the title of vice president in an attempt to entice him to work for the Debtors. Mr. Moustakis is the Vice President, Engineering. His responsibilities include overseeing the Debtors’ oil and gas production, evaluation of reserves, technical reporting and development of capital spending projects. In addition, Mr. Moustakis provides “engineering and reserve support” for the Debtors’ and their lenders. Mr. Moustakis reports to the President and is not a member of senior management. He does not play any role in making operational, tactical or strategic decisions for the Debtors. Mr. Moustakis supervises four employees who work in the Debtors’ Texas oil fields. As with Mr. Drennan, the Debtors’ sole motivation in offering Mr. Moustakis a title was to assist in enticing him to work for the Debtors; and Mr. Moustakis’s job is the functional equivalent of a manager. III. The Retention Agreements At the time the Debtors entered into the retention agreements, the Debtors were undergoing significant financial difficulties. More specifically, in October, 2008, the Debtors were in default under their pre-petition credit agreement and had engaged Parkman Whaling LLC to assist the Debtors in evaluating strategic alternatives, including a possible sale of the company. The Debtors entered into the retention agreements in an attempt to ensure that certain key employees of the Debtors’ remained with the Debtors despite the uncertainty.6 These employees were critical to maintaining the Debtors’ business and assisting Parkman Whaling in its efforts. The employment agreements of the senior management were substantially different *577 from the terms of the employment agreements of Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis and were not modified in October 2008 to provide for a retention bonus.7 LEGAL DISCUSSION I. Who Is An Officer Under Section 101(31) Of The Bankruptcy Code? Section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code, which was adopted in 2005, imposes a variety of restrictions on the compensation that can be paid both to executives and other employees of company that is in bankruptcy. These payments are not prohibited. Rather, section 503(c) states that there shall not be any claim allowed or paid unless it meets the applicable standard. Section 503(c)(1) governs payments for the purpose of inducing an insider to remain with the debtor’s business. The requirement in section 503(c)(1)(A) that payments may only be made to insiders that have “a bona fide job offer from another business at the same or greater rate of compensation,” has proven virtually impossible for debtors to meet. 8 In addition, section 503(c)(1)(C), which limits the amount of compensation for retention payable to insiders, has made such programs unattractive and unpersuasive to management-even if section 503(c)(1)(A) can be satisfied.9 *578 Debtors have responded to the difficulties in satisfying section 503(c)(1) by arguing that the post-petition payments to insiders for which they are seeking authorization do not fall under the auspices of section 503(c)(1) because they are: (i) in the form of “incentive” payments rather than retention payments;10 and/or (ii) not for the benefit of an insider. In this case, the Debtors argue that Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis are not officers of Foothills and, thus, not insiders. If so, section 503(c)(1) © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 3 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 would be inapplicable.11 “Insider” is a defined term under section 101(31) of the Bankruptcy Code. The relevant provision states that: (31) The term “insider” includes— *** (B) if the debtor is a corporation— (i) director of the debtor; (ii) officer of the debtor; (iii) person in control of the debtor; (iv) partnership in which the debtor is a general partner; (v) general partner of the debtor; or (vi) relative of a general partner, director, officer, or person in control of the debtor; 11 U.S.C. § 101(31)(B) (emphasis added). In Winstar Communications, Inc., the Third Circuit recently addressed the meaning of the term insider under the Bankruptcy Code.12 The issue in Winstar Communications was whether the defendant in a preference action was a “non-statutory insider.” Noting that Congress uses the word “includes” in section 101(31), the Third Circuit held that there is “a category of creditors, sometimes called ‘non-statutory insiders,’ who fall within the definition but outside of any of the enumerated categories.”13 The Court rejected the argument that only a “person in control” could be an insider.14 Rather, the *579 Court held that “the question ‘is whether there is a close relationship [between debtor and creditor] and ... anything other than closeness to suggest that any transactions were not conducted at arm’s length.’ ”15 The Third Circuit’s focus of inquiry is in accord with the plain meaning of insider—“a person who is within some society, organization, etc.; a person who is a party to a secret, esp. so as to gain an unfair advantage.”16 Included in the enumerated categories of insiders of a corporation are its officers. 17 “Officer” is not defined under the Bankruptcy Code. It goes without saying (or at least citation) that in considering a statute the Court starts with its plain meaning. An officer is a “person holding office and taking part in the management or direction of a society or institution, esp. one holding the office of president, treasurer or secretary.”18 “Management,” in this context, is defined as “the administration of (a group within) an organization or commercial enterprise.”19 The “officers” at issue in this case are vice presidents. A vice president is “[a] person representing or deputizing for a president; an official who ranks immediately below a president.”20 An official is obviously an officer.21 Thus, under the plain meaning of the words, a vice president is presumptively an officer, who, in turn, is an insider. Nonetheless, the mere title of a person does not end the inquiry.22 [1] [2] [3] [4] Just as there may be non-statutory insiders that fall within the definition of an insider but are outside of the enumerated categories,23 there may be persons that fall within the enumerated categories but do not meet the definition of the category. Under the plain meaning of the words, the question is whether a person is taking part in the management of the debtor.24 In order to overcome the presumption that a person holding an officer’s title is not what he or she appears to be requires submission of evidence sufficient to establish that the officer is, in fact, not participating in the management of the debtor.25 *580 The Debtors cite to a number of cases that stand for a different proposition, i.e., an officer is a person who is in control © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 4 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 of a debtor.26 That standard necessarily limits officers to the very highest level of senior management. The Court will address these cases in chronological order. The opinion in NMI Systems is the seminal case defining officer under section 101(31). NMI Systems involved a preference action brought against a vice president of the debtor. The bankruptcy court declined to consider the defendant as an officer based solely on his title. Pillard’s title of vice president and mid-management responsibilities of running the company’s consulting division ought not suffice to make him an officer if he did not enjoy the elements of being an officer that would per se put him in a position of advantage as against other creditors. The difficult task is to articulate what, as a matter of law, suffices to make one a corporate officer as that term is used in the Bankruptcy Code’s definition of insider.27 The NMI Systems court determined that an officer under the Bankruptcy Code “obviously includes anyone holding a position in which that person controls the decision whether to pay an antecedent claim.”28 But the court went on to hold that the category is broader than “control” and includes “those in the collective group exercising overall authority regarding the debtor’s corporate decisions who, as members of that insider group, are in a position to exert undue influence over corporate decisions regarding payment of their claims in tight financial times including those who are privy to critical information regarding the debtor’s financial stability and able to act to their advantage on the basis of such information.”29 In so ruling, the bankruptcy court was heavily influenced by the fact that the case before the court was a preference action. That is reflected in the court’s emphasis in the quotations above on the payment of claims. Indeed, the court specifically states that the test of whether one is an officer “ought to be one that takes account of the bankruptcy policies behind the use of the term ‘insider’ in the preference statute and that is best designed to further those policies.”30 The NMI Systems court was mistaken in focusing so heavily on the preference *581 statute in determining the appropriate definition of officer. The term “insider” appears several times in the Bankruptcy Code, including sections 303 (involuntary petitions), 1129(b) (confirmation of a plan), and, since 2005, section 503(c) (payments to insiders). The definition of officer and, thus, insider, should not be tailored to fit just one section of the Bankruptcy Code. Rather, the definition should be based upon the plain meaning of the word officer. The effect of the holding in NMI Systems is to add an adjective such as “senior” or “controlling” to the term “officer of the debtor” in section 101(31)(B)(ii). Congress has already made a similar limitation. Managers are not insiders. Rather, managers that are sufficiently senior to hold the title of an officer are insiders. There is no rational basis under the plain meaning of the relevant words to further limit the definition of officers to those “in the collective group exercising overall authority regarding the debtor’s corporate decisions.”31 The issue in DeLuca was whether the votes of a creditor that was exercising financial control over certain aspects of the debtor’s business should be included in determining whether an impaired class had accepted a proposed plan of reorganization (excluding the vote of insiders) so that the debtor could cram down the plan on its creditors under section 1129(b).32 Importantly, there was no allegation that the creditor was an officer. Indeed, as the debtor in DeLuca was a partnership, officers are not even included in the relevant definition of insider. 33 Rather, the analysis was whether the creditor was a person in control. While an officer may be a person in control, the words are not interchangeable. 34 Thus, the DeLuca case is entirely inapplicable to the issue before the Court. Public Access Technology.com was an appeal of the entry of summary judgment in a preference action. 35 The issue was whether the defendant, an executive vice president of the debtor, was an officer. The bankruptcy court below held that because the defendant held the title of executive vice president he was, per se, an officer and, thus, an insider.36 On appeal, the district court disagreed, holding that the defendant’s stipulation that he was an executive vice president, without more, was insufficient to establish that he was an officer of the debtor under section 101(31). The district court did not articulate what evidence was required to prove that the defendant was an officer, noting only that there was no evidence whatsoever in the record on the issue.37 Moreover the court went on to state in a footnote that “[t]he Bankruptcy Code itself does not define the term ‘officer.’ As such, this court finds no basis for proclaiming a rigid rule to determine who qualifies as a corporate officer— *582 beyond observing that proof of officer status requires more than just a title, and less than actual control of the corporate debtor, this court does not seek to constrain whatever inquiry the practical experience of the bankruptcy court may lead it to conduct.”38 Thus, the district court reversed the entry of summary judgment and remanded to the bankruptcy court. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 5 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 While the district court did not state in Public Access Technology.com that a person with the title of an officer is presumptively the same, its opinion is otherwise consistent with the Court’s holding in this case. In dicta, the court noted that title alone is insufficient to establish that a person is an officer. In addition, the court implicitly rejected the NMI Systems holding that control of the debtor is the relevant inquiry. But, as the decision does not specifically state the standard for determining whether a person is an officer other than to set broad parameters and it does not state what evidence is required to make that determination, it has limited applicability to the issue before the Court. 39 Finally, in an unpublished “interim” opinion, the bankruptcy court in CEP Holdings addressed the question of whether certain of the debtor’s vice presidents as well as its chief financial officer were officers for purposes of applying section 503(c)(3) of the Bankruptcy Code.40 Section 503(c)(3) provides that transfers or obligations not addressed by sections 503(c)(1) and (2) that are outside the ordinary course of business for the benefit of, among others, officers must be “justified by the facts and circumstances of the case.”41 The bankruptcy court adopted the NMI Systems standard for determining whether a person is an officer. 42 Interestingly, however, the court stated in a footnote that “the record in this case [does not] suggest ... that the Potential Plan Participants possess characteristics that should render them insiders even if the Court finds that they are not ‘in control’ of the Debtor.”43 In any event, the court went on to hold that what constitutes “control” and, presumably whether a person is an officer will “vary according to context.”44 In the context of section 503(c)(3), the court adopted the following standard: insider status under the ‘control’ provision of Section 101(31)(B)(iii) should be determined, at least in part, by reference to the payment recipient’s control of the specific transaction under consideration and the impact of that transaction upon the debtor’s creditors. Phrased in terms of Section 503(c)(3), the proposed payment recipient’s control over the specific transaction and its impact upon other creditors constitute ‘facts and circumstances’ that must be considered before determining that the transaction is justified. With respect to payment programs such as the Plan, the Court believes it is important to know whether the potential plan recipient had significant input into the negotiation of *583 the plan (including the amount of additional compensation that the employee would receive under the plan). There are other factors relevant to the determination, namely the base salary compensation of the employee and the additional responsibilities that the employee is required to undertake in order to receive the additional compensation. 45 This Court disagrees that the meaning of “officer” should vary according to the context in which the word is used. That would be inconsistent with the Third Circuit’s statement in Winstar Communications that the relevant inquiry includes whether there is “anything other than closeness to suggest that any transactions were not conducted at arm’s length.”46 To adopt the holding in CEP Holdings would also ignore the plain meaning of the word officer and, instead, alter its meaning depending upon its application and effect. This is exactly the type of analysis that the plain meaning doctrine is designed to thwart. [5] A more appropriate holding in CEP Holdings would have been that the type of evidence that might support finding a person to be an officer may vary from case to case based on the facts and circumstances surrounding the debtor’s business. This Court agrees with the suggestion in Public Access Technology.com that a flexible approach should be taken in considering what evidence might rebut the presumption that a person who holds the title of an officer is, in fact, an officer.47 Determining whether a person is an officer is the first step. The next question is whether that renders him or her an insider. Here, no further inquiry is needed. Congress has explicitly stated that an officer is an insider.48 Having been found to be the former, one must be the latter.49 Thus, under the plain meaning of the statute an officer is, per se, an insider.50 In summation, a person holding the title of an officer, including a vice president, is presumptively what he or she appears to be—an officer and, thus, an insider. To overcome that presumption requires the submission of evidence sufficient to establish that the officer does not, in fact, participate in the management of the debtor. II. The Debtors’ Vice Presidents Are, In Fact, Officers And, Thus, Insiders Under Section 101(31) Of The Bankruptcy Code [6] Now we turn to whether Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis are, in fact, officers and insiders of the Debtors, i.e., whether they are participating in the management of the Debtors. The Court finds *584 that the evidence is insufficient to rebut the presumption that Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis are officers and insiders of the Debtors. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 6 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 Neither Mr. Drennan nor Mr. Moustakis are members of senior management and they do not play a role in the management of the company as a whole. Nonetheless they are in charge of important aspects of the Debtors’ business, which is the acquisition, exploration, exploitation and development of oil and natural gas properties. Mr. Drennan oversees the Debtors’ oil and gas leases and communications with landlords regarding those leases. Without those leases, the Debtors would have no business. In addition, he is responsible for ensuring the Debtors are in compliance with state and federal laws and regulation—obviously a requirement of staying in business. Mr. Moustakis, in turn, oversees the Debtors’ oil and gas production, evaluation of reserves, technical reporting and development of capital spending projects. Again, without these activities the Debtors would have no business. Management is “the administration of (a group within) an organization or commercial enterprise.”51 Certainly, one would normally consider the supervision of employees as a necessary component of management. But, that is not necessarily the case. The Debtors have 10 employees, including three members of senior management; an administrative assistant; and Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis. Mr. Drennan does not supervise any employees while Mr. Moustakis supervises four persons. In a company of this size, it is not surprising that a person could hold a position of critical importance in managing the business enterprise but still only supervise few or no employees. Thus, the number of employees under the officer’s supervision is of little importance in this case. Given their broad responsibilities over significant aspects of the Debtors’ business as well as the fact that they report directly to the Debtors’ President, both men are clearly participating in the management of the Debtors. Indeed, the Debtors’ CFO testified that he considered both of them to be performing the job of a manager. This, in and of itself, is sufficient evidence to find that Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis are participating in the management of the Debtors’ business. Thus, the Court finds that the Debtors have not presented sufficient evidence to rebut the presumption that Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis are officers and, thus, insiders.52 III. As The Debtors’ Vice Presidents Are Insiders, The Court Will Deny The Motion To Authorize Assumption Of Their Employment Agreements Under Section 365 And Payment Of The Retention Payments Under Section 363 [7] The motion before the Court seeks authorization for the Debtors to assume the modified employment agreements under section 365. In addition, provided that the agreements are assumed, the Debtors seek authority to make the retention payments as a use of property of the estate (outside the ordinary course of business) under *585 section 363(b) of the Bankruptcy Code. The governing standard for both requests for relief is whether the proposed action would be a reasonable exercise of the Debtors’ business judgment.53 As the Debtors’ sole motivation for filing and prosecuting the motion is to obtain authority to make retention payments that are prohibited by section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code, it is not a reasonable exercise of the Debtors’ business judgment to assume the agreements and/or make the payments.54 Thus, the motion will be denied. CONCLUSION A person holding the title of an officer, including vice president, is presumptively what he or she appears to be—an officer and, thus, an insider. Nonetheless, this presumption can be rebutted by evidence sufficient to establish that the person does not participate in the management of the debtor. Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis are presumptively officers and the Debtors have failed to submit evidence sufficient to rebut that presumption. A retention payment may only be made to an insider if the standard under section 503(c)(1) has been satisfied. As there is no evidence that section 503(c)(1) has been met, the retention payment cannot be made. Since the Debtors’ sole reason for filing and prosecuting the motion is to obtain authorization to make the retention payments, the motion to assume those agreements will be denied. An order will be issued. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 7 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 All Citations 408 B.R. 573, 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 Footnotes 1 This Opinion constitutes the Court’s findings of fact and conclusions of law pursuant to Federal Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 7052. 2 The Court conducted an evidentiary hearing in this matter. The facts set forth herein are based upon the evidence submitted at that hearing and the statements in the Debtors’ motion. 3 The employment agreement, as modified in 2008, also provides for payments in the event that Mr. Drennan is fired or there is a change of control before June 30, 2009. As those events did not occur and there have been no such payments these provisions are not before the Court. 4 The employment agreement, as modified in 2008, also provides for payments in the event that Mr. Moustakis is fired or there is a change of control before June 30, 2009. For the same reasons set forth in n. 3 above, these provisions are not before the Court. 5 The Debtors also entered into an employment agreement and subsequent change in control, severance and retention agreement with Lynn M. Marks, who serves as an Administrative Assistant. No party has argued that Ms. Marks is an officer and there was no objection to the Debtors’ assumption of her modified employment agreement. 6 At this time, the Debtors entered into virtually identical retention agreements with two other employees, excluding Ms. Marks. The Debtors have not sought to assume those agreements. 7 In December, 2008, those agreements were modified for tax purposes. Although they contain a severance component, they do not entitle the employees to any retention payment. The Debtors have not sought to assume the employment agreements of its senior management. 8 One can argue that section 503(c)(1)(A) is counter-productive to debtors because the entire point of a retention payment plan is to discourage insiders from seeking alternative employment. 9 Consider two scenarios: • Debtor wants to make payments to retain its CEO who made $300,000 in 2008. Debtor has made bonus payments averaging $2,000 to non-management employees during 2009. —Payment to CEO can only be made if: (i) CEO has an offer for employment at another company for $300,000 or more annually; (ii) CEO’s services are essential to debtor’s survival; and (iii) CEO’s services are essential to debtor’s survival; and Payment does not exceed $20,000, i.e., 6.67% of CEO’s current salary, which is 10 times the average payments to non-management employees during 2009. • Debtor wants to make payments to retain its CEO who made $300,000 in 2008. Debtor has not made bonus payments to non-management employees during 2009. —Payment to CEO can only be made if: (i) CEO has an offer for employment at another company for $300,000 or more annually; (ii) CEO’s services are essential to debtor’s survival; and (iii) Payment does not exceed $75,000, i.e., 25% of the CEO’s 2008 salary Interestingly, to the extent that section 503(c)(1) is intended to encourage retention payments be made to all employees rather than just senior management it is counter-productive. For example, under the above scenarios, senior management is better off not providing bonus payments to non-management employees because in that instance the cap on payment is $75,000 rather than $20,000. The $20,000 payment to the CEO under the first scenario could be increased to $75,000 or more by sufficiently increasing the bonus payments already being paid to non-management employees, however, the cost would be prohibitive. For example, in the second scenario, to increase the payment for non-management employees from $20,000 to $75,000 would require increasing the average bonus payment from $2,000 to $7,500. In a company with 1,000 non-management employees this would cost the debtor $5.5 million, i.e., ($7,500—$2,000) * 1,000. In any event, the amount of the retention payments under these scenarios are well below the amount generally sought by the debtors under a retention plan. For example, in this case, the Debtors seek authority to make payments constituting 75% of the recipients’ base salary. 10 See, e.g., In re Nellson Nutraceutical, 369 B.R. 787, 801–03 (Bankr.D.Del.2007) (allowing payments to insiders because primarily © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 8 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 motivational and not retentive); In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778, 786 (Bankr.D.Del.2007) (allowing payments to insiders that are primarily motivational and only coincidentally retentive); and In re Dana Corp., 358 B.R. 567, 577 (Bankr.S.D.N.Y.2006) (allowing payments to insiders even though they might have some retentive impact because any such impact was merely incidental). 11 Section 503(c)(2) governs severance payments to insiders. Section 503(c)(3) applies to payments made outside the ordinary course of business for the benefit of officers, managers and consultants, provided, however, that sections (c)(1) or (2) are not applicable. As the payments here are clearly retentive, section 503(c)(2) is not implicated. Section 503(b)(3) would only be applicable were the Court to find that Messrs. Drennan and/or Moustakis are not officers. See n. 54, infra. Thus, as a preliminary matter, the Debtors’ motion rises or falls under section 503(c)(1). 12 Schubert v. Lucent Technologies Inc. (In re Winstar Communications, Inc.), 554 F.3d 382 (3rd Cir.2009). 13 Id. at 395 (citing Anstine v. Carl Zeiss Meditec AG (In re U.S. Med., Inc.), 531 F.3d 1272, 1276 (10th Cir.2008)). 14 Id. at 396 (“[N]ot all of the enumerated insiders possess actual control over the debtor. For example, a ‘relative of a general partner, director, officer, or person in control of the debtor’ is an insider. 11 U.S.C. § 101(31)(B)(vi). Similarly, a ‘partnership in which the debtor is a general partner’ is an insider-even though the direction of control is reversed, i.e. the debtor as general partner controls the partnership. 11 U.S.C. § 101(31)(B)(iv). Cf. 11 U.S.C. § 101(31)(E) (providing that an ‘affiliate’ of the debtor is an insider, even though an affiliate under § 101(2)(B) includes a corporation ‘20 percent or more of whose outstanding voting securities are directly or indirectly owned ... by the debtor’).”). 15 Id. (quoting U.S. Med., Inc., 531 F.3d at 1277). 16 I SHORTER OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY 1394 (emphasis added). 17 11 U.S.C. § 101(31)(B)(ii). 18 II SHORTER OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY 1988. Note that the term is further modified to state “esp[ecially] a president, treasurer or secretary.” The use of the word especially makes the list of examples illustrative rather than exclusive. 19 I SHORTER OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY 1692. 20 II SHORTER OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY at 3527 (emphasis added). 21 Id. at 1988 (an official is a person “[h]olding office ...”). 22 See, e.g., Duke Energy Royal, LLC v. Pillowtex Corporation (In re Pillowtex, Inc.), 349 F.3d 711, 716 n. 6 (3d Cir.2003) (where the parties to a contract intended to create a “true lease” it is presumed to be a true lease and the party seeking to establish that it is “something other than what it purports to be” bears the burden of proof to rebut the presumption). 23 Winstar Communications, 554 F.3d at 395. 24 The definition neither states nor implies that the management of the debtor must be at the most senior level. 25 The Court is aware that its holding may be thought to render the use of the word “officer” in section 503(c)(3) to be superfluous as the Court has, in effect, held that an officer is a manager who is sufficiently senior to hold the title of an officer. 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(“(c) Notwithstanding subsection (b), there shall neither be allowed, nor paid ... (3) other transfers or obligations that are outside the ordinary course of business and not justified by the facts and circumstances of the case, including transfers made to, or obligations incurred for the benefit of, officers, managers, or consultants hired after the date of the filing of the petition.”) (emphasis added). However, as all managers are not officers, the use of both terms is not redundant. Rather, the statute provides that the standard under section 503(c)(3) governing a payment that it is made to managers and consultants, who are not necessarily insiders, is different on its face from that which applies to payments made to directors and control persons, who are insiders. The former must be “justified by the facts and circumstances of the case” while the latter must satisfy the business judgment test under section 363 (provided sections 503(c)(1) and (2) are not applicable). Whether there is any substantive difference between the two standards and, if so, what constitutes “justified by the facts and circumstances of the case” is an issue for another day. 26 Smith v. Ruby (In re Public Access Technology.com, Inc.), 307 B.R. 500 (E.D.Va.2004); In re CEP Holdings, LLC, 2006 WL © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 9 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 3422665 (Bankr.N.D.Ohio Nov.28, 2006); Principal Mutual Life Insurance Co. v. Lakeside Associates, L.P. (In re DeLuca), 194 B.R. 797 (Bankr.E.D.Va.1996); and NMI Systems, Inc. v. Pillard (In re NMI Systems, Inc.), 179 B.R. 357 (Bankr.D.C.1995). 27 NMI Systems, 179 B.R. at 368. 28 Id. at 370 (emphasis added). 29 Id. (emphasis added). 30 Id. at 369. 31 Id. at 370. The Debtors argue that as a result of “title inflation,” the use of an officer title, in fact, does not reflect that such persons are sufficiently senior to hold the title of an officer and, thus, should not be considered as such. While that may be true, it is an argument for Congress and not this Court. This Court must limit its inquiry to the plain meaning of the statute and not a debtor’s misapplication of that term’s plain meaning. 32 DeLuca, 194 B.R. at 801. 33 11 U.S.C. § 101(31)(C). 34 See, e.g., Winstar Communications, 554 F.3d at 395–97. 35 Public Access Technology.com, 307 B.R. at 502. 36 Id. at 505 (“the bankruptcy court held that ‘Smith admits that he was the debtor’s Executive Vice President, and we do not have to carry the inquiry any further.’ ”). 37 Id. at 506. 38 Id. (emphasis added). 39 The district court does provide some examples of evidence that may be used, in whole or in part, to establish whether a person is an officer. Id. (“There are no affidavits, articles of incorporation, corporate minutes, resolutions, or any documents or evidence that show this title makes [the executive vice president] an officer of the corporation.”). 40 CEP Holdings, 2006 WL 3422665. 41 11 U.S.C. § 503(c)(3). 42 CEP Holdings, 2006 WL 3422665 at *2. 43 Id. at *2 n. 2. 44 Id. at *2. 45 Id. at *3. 46 Winstar Communications, 554 F.3d at 396 (emphasis added). Note that the court used “any transaction” not “transaction before the court” or similar language. 47 Public Access Technologies.com, 307 B.R. at 506. 48 11 U.S.C. § 101(31)(B). 49 It does not, however, follow that having been found not to be an officer one is, per se, not an insider. While, in that instance, section 101(31)(B) would not be a proper basis to a person to be an insider, there may be facts that would support finding a person to be an insider under the other categories of the definition of insider, i.e., director, person in control, etc., or as a non-statutory © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 10 In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (2009) 62 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 212, Bankr. L. Rep. P 81,589 insider. 50 Plain meaning is the starting point of statutory analysis but it is not the mandatory exit. Hon. Thomas F. Waldron and Neil M. Berman, Principled Principles of Statutory Interpretation: A Judicial Perspective After Two Years of BAPCPA, 81 AM. BANKR. L.J. 195, 232 (2007) In this instance, none of the exceptions to applying plain meaning of the text are applicable (such as doing so would render an absurd result). 51 I SHORTER OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY 1692. 52 In opposition to the motion, the United States Trustee argues that the identification of Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis as officers in the Debtors’ most recent 10K and the Statements of Financial Affairs filed in this case establishes that they are officers. The Court has held, however, that the inquiry is whether they are, in fact, participating in the management of the Debtors. As the identification of Messrs. Drennan and Moustakis as officers on these public documents is additional evidence of the already established conclusion that they are presumptively officers, it does not relate to the inquiry into whether they are, in fact, participating in management. Thus, it is irrelevant. 53 In re Taylor, 913 F.2d 102 (3rd Cir.1990) (assumption of executory contracts); and In re Abbotts Dairies of Pa., Inc., 788 F.2d 143 (3d Cir.1986) (use of property of the estate outside the ordinary course of business). 54 Had section 503(b)(1) not been applicable, the Court would have been required to determine whether the requested relief is “justified by the facts and circumstances of the case.” Whether that standard would have been met in that instance is not before the Court. End of Document © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 11 In re Airway Industries, Inc., 354 B.R. 82 (2006) 56 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 1059, 47 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 52 KeyCite Yellow Flag - Negative Treatment Distinguished by In re Fieldstone Mortg. Co., Bankr.D.Md., February 25, 2010 354 B.R. 82 United States Bankruptcy Court, W.D. Pennsylvania. In re AIRWAY INDUSTRIES, INC., Debtor. Official Committee Of Unsecured Creditors, Movant, v. Airway Industries, Inc., Cerberus Capital Management, L.P., Madeleine, L.L.C., Respondents. No. 06–20224 JKF. | Oct. 3, 2006. Synopsis Background: Unsecured creditors committee filed turnover motion, seeking order directing that incentive bonuses that were to be provided by secured creditor to four of Chapter 11 debtor’s executives be turned over to bankruptcy estate or, alternatively, disallowing or prohibiting payment of bonuses. The United States Trustee (UST) also objected to payment of bonuses. Creditor and debtor opposed committee’s motion. Holdings: The Bankruptcy Court, Judith K. Fitzgerald, J., held that: [1] creditor did not have to turn over bonuses; [2] statute governing administrative expenses did not provide basis for bankruptcy court to disallow or prohibit bonuses; and [3] potential for breach of fiduciary duty arising from bonus agreements did not provide equitable basis for granting motion seeking turnover of bonuses to estate. Turnover motion denied; objection to bonuses overruled. Attorneys and Law Firms *83 Joel M. Walker, Pittsburgh, PA, for Debtor. MEMORANDUM OPINION1 JUDITH K. FITZGERALD, Bankruptcy Judge. Before the court is a motion by the Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors (“Turnover Motion”)2 seeking entry of an order pursuant to §§ 503, 541, 542, and 105 of the Bankruptcy Code directing that Transaction Bonuses3 provided by a secured creditor be turned over to Debtor’s estate or, in the alternative, disallowing or prohibiting payment of the bonuses pursuant to § 503. The beneficiaries of the bonuses are four executives of the Debtor. The bonuses are to be provided by Cerberus Capital Management, L.P. (“Cerberus Capital”), an affiliate4 of Cerberus *84 Partners, L.P. (“Cerberus Partners”), and Madeleine, L.L.C. (“Madeleine”, and collectively with Cerberus Partners and Cerberus Capital, “Cerberus”).5 The bonuses were conditioned on the executives remaining with the company until the proposed sale was completed and the bonuses were to be paid by Cerberus, following the sale. 6 The purported intention of the bonuses, as asserted by Cerberus, © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 1 In re Airway Industries, Inc., 354 B.R. 82 (2006) 56 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 1059, 47 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 52 was to stabilize the company and maximize the value of the sale. Both Cerberus and the Debtor filed responses, requesting that the court deny the Turnover Motion.7 BACKGROUND It is undisputed that the Debtor is a Pennsylvania corporation founded in 1919 as Reliable Trunk Company. Debtor did business as “Atlantic Luggage Company” and sold specialty luggage products and travel accessories to department stores, specialty luggage stores, and other distribution channels in the United States, Canada, and China. As of the Petition Date, Debtor had approximately 90 employees. Approximately 67 of these employees were located at Debtor’s corporate headquarters in Ellwood City, Pennsylvania, and the remaining employees worked in Debtor’s facilities in Orland, California, Mississauga, Canada, and Hangzhou, China. The Cerberus Entities hold secured claims and interests in a partnership that holds shares of Debtor’s preferred stock. Cerberus Capital, signatory to the Bonus Agreements, is an affiliate of Cerberus Partners. Madeleine, an affiliate of Cerberus Partners, is also a prepetition secured creditor of the Debtor and was the lender to Debtor under a debtor-in-possession financing facility. On January 20, 2006, Debtor filed its voluntary petition under Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania. The United States Trustee for the Western District of Pennsylvania (the “U.S. Trustee”) appointed the Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors of Airway Industries, Inc. (the “Committee”) on February 6, 2006. No trustee or examiner has been appointed in this case. Pursuant to § 1107 and § 1108 of the Bankruptcy Code, Debtor continues to operate its business and manage its respective properties as debtor-in-possession. 11 U.S.C. § 1107; 11 U.S.C. § 1108. Prior to the Chapter 11 filing, Debtor’s business was in substantial decline. According to the testimony of Grace Kurowska, Debtor’s Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer: We realized that our sales [were] dropping significantly. It got to the point that in September of 2004 we ran out of cash to run the operation.... We, at that time, lost the business with J.C. Penney. We lost the business with Kohl’s. Eventually, in early 2005 we lost business with Marshall Fields. 2/27/06 Sale Hearing Transcript at 33:20–22; 37:22–24, DN 180. Many of the sales people left the company for more lucrative *85 opportunities elsewhere, which accelerated Debtor’s financial decline. Id. at 39:9–13. The former Chief Executive Officer, John Dudash, was one of those who left Debtor’s employ during that time. Without access to capital, management decided that a sale was Debtor’s only viable option. As the company was considering its options, its senior management employees were being offered more lucrative opportunities elsewhere. In an effort to stabilize the business and preserve the value of Debtor’s assets in any subsequent sale, and well before the bankruptcy was filed or the BAPCPA amendments took effect, Cerberus Capital, on behalf of Cerberus, proposed to pay Transaction Bonuses and entered into written incentive Bonus Agreements with William Berry (Chief Executive Officer) (“Berry”) and Grace Kurowska (Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer) (“Kurowska”) and oral agreements with Brian Miller (Vice President, Sales and Marketing) (“Miller”) and Gerald Carr (Comptroller) ( “Carr” and, collectively with Berry, Kurowska and Miller, the “Management Employees”). See 2/27/06 Sale Hearing Transcript, DN 180, Kurowska’ testimony beginning at 31. The written Agreements were signed in August, 2005. DN 90, Exhibits A, B; DN 214, Exhibit A. The Bonus Agreements provide that if Debtor sells all or substantially all of its assets—regardless of whether such sale occurs outside or in the context of a bankruptcy case—and Cerberus receives cash distributions from the sale proceeds, each Management Employee will receive his or her applicable Transaction Bonus. See DN 90, Exhibits A, B; DN 214, Exhibit A. The amounts of the bonuses were as follows: $500,000 for Berry; $75,000 for Carr; and the greater of (i) $300,000 and [sic] (ii) 4 percent of the amount by which the net proceeds of distributions to Cerberus from the sale exceed $14.6 million, up to a maximum of $320,000 for Kurowska and Miller. The Berry, Kurowska, and Miller Bonus Agreements also provide that if those individuals are not offered positions as of the closing of a sale comparable to those they held with Debtor at the time of execution of the Bonus Agreement, each would have the opportunity to become a consultant on the “operations team” of Cerberus Capital and its affiliated companies. The Bonus Agreements were signed on August 15, 2005. See DN 90, Exhibits © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 2 In re Airway Industries, Inc., 354 B.R. 82 (2006) 56 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 1059, 47 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 52 A, B; DN 214, Exhibit A. On January 27, 2006, Debtor filed a motion for an order approving an asset purchase agreement among itself, TravelPro International, Inc. (“TPI”), Austin House, Inc. and Cerberus Partners. DN 70. On February 8, 2006, Debtor filed a supplement (the “Supplement”) to the Sale Motion, disclosing to the court and interested parties that four of Debtor’s executive officers—Berry, Kurowska, Miller, and Carr—had either entered into or would enter into incentive bonus agreements with Cerberus Capital. DN 90. On February 10, 2006, the U.S. Trustee filed an objection to the Sale Motion requesting that the court prohibit the payment of the bonuses. DN 92. On February 23, 2006, the Committee filed its Turnover Motion, demanding that the bonuses be turned over to Debtor’s estate or, alternatively, that the court disallow or prohibit payment. DN 147. The hearing on the Sale Motion was held on February 27, 2006. 8 This court entered an order on February 28, 2006, approving the sale to TPI and found that “Debtor’s marketing efforts and solicitations conducted in connection with the sale process were appropriate and reasonable *86 and designed to obtain the highest and/or best price for the Acquired Assets.”9 On March 2, 2006, the closing on the sale to TPI occurred. ANALYSIS Under the facts of this case, Debtor pursued the sale of the company and negotiated the Bonus Agreements prepetition and prior to the effective date of BAPCPA. The court recognizes that the timing of the sale, the bankruptcy filing, and the changes in the Bankruptcy Code created a unique situation likely never to occur again. The Committee first requests that the Transaction Bonuses be turned over to Debtor’s estate under Bankruptcy Code § 541 and § 542. Under § 541, the filing of a petition creates an estate compromised of all property, “wherever located and by whomever held, of all legal or equitable interests of the debtor in property as of the commencement of the case.” 11 U.S.C. § 541(a)(1). See also U.S. v. Whiting Pools, Inc., 462 U.S. 198, 205, 103 S.Ct. 2309, 76 L.Ed.2d 515 (1983). If property is established to be property of the estate and is not in possession of the debtor, trustee, or debtor-in-possession, § 542 governs the turnover of such property to the bankruptcy estate. See 11 U.S.C. § 542. Additionally, the court has authority, under § 105(a) to “issue any order ... necessary or appropriate to carry out the provisions of” title 11. [1] A turnover under § 542 is predicated on a determination under § 541 that the property at issue is property of the estate. The Committee alleges that the Transaction Bonuses will be paid from property of the estate; however, that is not so. Rather, Cerberus has agreed to pay the bonuses from its own funds. See DN 90, Exhibits A, B; DN 214, Exhibit A. The Bonus Agreements explicitly provide that Cerberus, not the Debtor, will pay them “in the event that the [Debtor] sells all or substantially all of its assets ... and, as a result, [Cerberus] receives cash distributions ...” DN 214, Exhibit A. The Committee cites no relevant law to show that a court may order turnover of non-estate property under § 542. The Committee relies on In re Dalow Industries, Inc., 333 B.R. 640 (Bankr.E.D.N.Y.2005), arguing that it is analogous to the current situation. However, Dalow is easily distinguishable. In Dalow, the debtor sold its assets to the highest bidder at an auction, with the provision that as part of the purchase price, the purchaser would pay the secured claim of the debtor’s bank. Id. at 641. After the sale and payment, an accounting error was discovered, through which the bank had received overpayment of interest. The debtor successfully moved for turnover of the overpayment, pursuant to § 542. The issue was not whether the funds properly paid to the bank remained property of the estate, but whether the overpayment—to which the bank had never been entitled or made a claim—remained an asset of the estate. The current situation would be analogous to the funds properly paid to the bank, not the overpayment. Here the proceeds of sale will be paid to Cerberus in satisfaction of its security interest. In fact, the proceeds of sale will not pay the secured claim in full. Cerberus then will use its own funds to pay the bonuses. Because Cerberus will pay the bonuses from its own funds, the request for turnover under § 542 must be denied. [2] The Committee alternatively argues that if the court determines that the bonuses are not property of the estate, they should be disallowed or prohibited *87 because § 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code “expressly prohibits such payments.” DN 147 at 11. Section 503(c) covers three categories of administrative expense: © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 3 In re Airway Industries, Inc., 354 B.R. 82 (2006) 56 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 1059, 47 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 52 (1) a transfer made to, or an obligation incurred for the benefit of, an insider of the debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain with the debtor’s business ... (2) a severance payment to an insider of the debtor ... (3) other transfers or obligations that are outside the ordinary course of business and not justified by the facts and circumstances of the case, including transfers made to, or obligations incurred for the benefit of, officers, managers, or consultants hired after the date of the filing of the petition. These three categories of administrative expense are prohibited unless a finding by the court based on evidence in the record indicates that the statutorily prescribed limitations are not exceeded. The Committee made an argument for the application of § 503(c)(1) and the U.S. Trustee argued that both § 503(c)(1) and § 503(c)(2) apply.10 However, the application of § 503(c) is inappropriate considering the unique facts of this case. Section 503 applies to “Administrative Expenses of the Estate.” The court did not receive an administrative expense request from the parties who would receive the bonuses or from Cerberus. Rather, notice of the agreement was introduced in a Supplement to the Sale Motion.11 An administrative expense request is filed in order to obtain court approval for the expenditure of estate assets. Here, the estate is not paying the bonuses; Cerberus voluntarily agreed to make the payment from its own funds in an effort to maximize its distribution. The payments will not be allowed administrative expenses to be paid from the Debtor’s estate, nor will Cerberus seek reimbursement from the estate for payment of the Transaction Bonuses. Section 503(c) of BAPCPA was adopted in an effort to deal with the effect that large administrative claims arising pursuant to KERPs have on the estate.12 The court in In re U.S. Airways, Inc., 329 B.R. 793 (Bankr.E.D.Va.2005), noted that the primary concern with KERPs is an unwarranted depletion of the debtor’s estate at the expense of the creditors: All too often [KERPs] have been widely used to lavishly reward—at the expense of the creditor body—the very executives whose bad decisions or lack of foresight were responsible for the debtor’s financial plight. Id., 329 B.R. at 797. These concerns do not arise under the facts of this case because the bonuses create no expense to the *88 estate or diminution to the creditor body. The financial burden rests solely on Cerberus. Because Cerberus is undersecured, there is no way unsecured creditors will be paid from the sale. The objections of the Committee and the U.S. Trustee asserting application of § 503(c) are inappropriate because the Transaction Bonuses are not administrative expenses and do not otherwise deplete the Debtor’s estate at the expense of the creditors. The Transaction Bonuses will not be disallowed or prohibited under § 503(c). The Committee also alleges that Cerberus constructed the Bonus Agreements with the intention of circumventing § 503(c). However, the evidence establishes otherwise. Under the Bonus Agreements, Cerberus’s obligation is not predicated on the Debtor’s bankruptcy filing but only on the sale of assets. The only conditions to payment of the Transaction Bonuses are: (i) the sale of substantially all of the Debtor’s assets (whether in or outside of a bankruptcy case); (ii) Cerberus receiving a cash distribution as a result thereof; and (iii) the applicable Management Employee being in good standing immediately prior to the closing of any sale. The credible evidence indicates that the Bonus Agreements were not written in anticipation or even contemplation of the new bankruptcy law. Q: The agreements that you reviewed you signed in August? A: Okay. Q: Did you discuss these agreements with [the Management Employees] before they were signed? A: Yes. Q: It was about the same time that you learned about the changes in the Bankruptcy Code? A: No, there was no connection between the two. I think our assumption was when we entered into these agreements, the company was going to file for bankruptcy before the Code changed. So I don’t think there was any relevance. Q: Why were you considering filing for bankruptcy before the Code changed? © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 4 In re Airway Industries, Inc., 354 B.R. 82 (2006) 56 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 1059, 47 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 52 A: I think the assumption was that the Asset Purchase Agreement with TravelPro would have been done. Davenport Deposition, DN 214, Exh. C at 179–80. The evidence establishes that the agreements were precipitated by the former CEO (Dudash) aggressively recruiting the Management Employees away from Debtor. 13 Further, the sale of the company was initially intended to be conducted outside of bankruptcy. 14 [3] The U.S. Trustee argues that if the court finds that the structure of the Bonus Agreements prevents the bonuses from being considered administrative expenses of the estate, therefore avoiding the limitations of § 503(c), the directors and controlling shareholders of the Debtor may have created a conflict of interest by allowing the officers to be compensated by a secured lender.15 In doing so, the U.S. Trustee contends, the directors, officers, and controlling shareholders may have breached their fiduciary duty to act in the best interests of the corporate Debtor and creditor body. “[T]he willingness ... to leave debtors in possession ‘is premised upon an assurance that the officers and managing employees of the debtor can be depended *89 upon to carry out the fiduciary responsibilities of a trustee.’ ” Commodity Futures Trading Commission v. Weintraub, 471 U.S. 343, 355, 105 S.Ct. 1986, 85 L.Ed.2d 372 (1985) (citation omitted). See also Wolf v. Weinstein, 372 U.S. 633, 651, 83 S.Ct. 969, 10 L.Ed.2d 33, rehearing denied 373 U.S. 928, 83 S.Ct. 1522, 10 L.Ed.2d 427 (1963). [4] [5] A debtor-in-possession, as a fiduciary of the bankruptcy estate, is required to protect and conserve property for the benefit of creditors. “Directors of an insolvent corporation hold their powers ‘in trust’ for all creditors of the corporation. They may not use their powers for their own benefit and to the detriment of creditors.” In re Insulfoams, Inc., 184 B.R. 694, 703–04 (Bankr.W.D.Pa.1995), aff’d sub nom. Donaldson v. Bernstein, 104 F.3d 547 (3d Cir.1997). In essence, the argument asserts that if Mr. Davenport, who was signatory to the agreement as the Managing Director of Cerberus Capital and also a member of the Board of Directors of the Debtor, was acting on behalf of Cerberus, and the agreement to pay the bonuses to the officers was for the benefit of Cerberus and to the detriment of the remaining creditors of Debtor, then Mr. Davenport may have breached his fiduciary duty as a Director of the Debtor. Similarly, if Berry, Kurowska, Miller, and Carr signed the agreement for their benefit and to the detriment of Debtor and the creditor body, then they also may have breached their fiduciary duty. Thus, we examine this issue to determine if there is an equitable basis on which to grant the Turnover Motion. The Bonus Agreements themselves explicitly provide that the Management Employees must continue to comply with their fiduciary duties to the Debtor, even if such duties would conflict with the interests of Cerberus: Duties. Notwithstanding anything to the contrary set forth herein, you will carry out your duties to the [Debtor] in a manner consistent with your fiduciary duties to the [Debtor] regardless of whether those duties would conflict with any duties owed to, or the interests of, Cerberus. If the transaction contemplated in this letter agreement would, in the reasonable opinion of the [Debtor] or Cerberus, create any actual or perceived conflict of interest, the parties will use their reasonable efforts to enter into mutually satisfactory arrangements to compensate you in a manner that is reasonably designed to eliminate any such conflicts. DN 214, Exhibit A. Additionally, once in bankruptcy, the Management Employees were advised of their fiduciary duties to all of the Debtor’s creditors.16 Despite the potential for breaches of fiduciary duty, none have been established in this case. All evidence indicates that both Cerberus and the Management Employees of the Debtor acted in good faith to maximize the value of the Debtor’s business and estate. After the CEO left Debtor’s employ and started to recruit Debtor’s employees, and after Debtor lost many customers and faced winding down its business, Cerberus and Debtor were concerned that the loss of the remaining executives, who were being heavily recruited by the former CEO, would be devastating to the business and detrimental to the sale. Robert Davenport, representative of Cerberus, testified in deposition that after the former CEO left Debtor, he started trying to recruit Kurowska and Miller. Davenport Deposition, DN 214, Exhibit C, at 129. Maximizing the sale proceeds serves the interests of the creditor body, not just *90 those of Debtor and Cerberus as the secured creditor. No unsecured creditor will be paid until the secured creditor is paid. In this case, because Cerberus will not be paid its secured claim in full from this sale, there are no proceeds available to pay other creditors. Thus any bonuses to be paid would necessarily have to come from Cerberus’s funds, not the estate’s. This court recognizes that similar arrangements must be closely scrutinized so that they are not used to circumvent § 503(c) or to compromise the fiduciary duty of insiders. However, the specific and peculiar facts and circumstances of the present case, where the agreement was negotiated prepetition and before BAPCPA took effect and Debtor expected either to close the © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 5 In re Airway Industries, Inc., 354 B.R. 82 (2006) 56 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 1059, 47 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 52 sale without filing bankruptcy or to file bankruptcy prior to BAPCPA taking effect, indicate that the Bonus Agreements were entered into in good faith and for the benefit of the Debtor and the creditor body. An appropriate order denying the Turnover Motion and overruling the objections to the Transaction Bonuses will be entered. ORDER For the reasons expressed in the foregoing Memorandum Opinion, it is Ordered this 3rd day of October, 2006, that the Motion of the Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors, DN 147, for turnover to the estate of the Transaction Bonuses is DENIED. It is further Ordered that the Objection of the United States Trustee, DN 92, is overruled. All Citations 354 B.R. 82, 56 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 1059, 47 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 52 Footnotes 1 The court’s jurisdiction was not at issue. This Memorandum Opinion constitutes our findings of fact and conclusions of law. 2 DN 147. 3 The bonuses were labeled as “Insider Bonuses” in the Committee’s Motion and titled as a “Transaction Bonus” in the written Bonus Agreements. DN 214, Exhibit A. 4 Under § 101(2) of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code, “affiliate” means “(A) entity that directly or indirectly owns, controls, or holds with power to vote, 20 percent or more of the outstanding voting securities of the debtor, other than an entity that holds such securities—(i) in a fiduciary or agency capacity without sole discretionary power to vote such securities; or (ii) solely to secure a debt, if such entity has not in fact exercised such power to vote.” 11 U.S.C. § 101(31). 5 According to Debtor’s List of Equity Security Holders, Madeleine and affiliates own 42.43 percent of Debtor’s equity. 6 The bonuses were to be paid following sale regardless of whether or not Airway entered bankruptcy proceedings. See Bonus Agreements, DN 90, Exhibits A, B; DN 214, Exh. A. 7 Airway Industries Inc.’s Response, DN 215; Cerberus’s Response, DN 214. 8 Sale Hearing Transcript, DN 180. 9 Sale Order, DN 171 at 3. 10 The Committee has not argued that § 503(c)(2) or (c)(3) should govern the bonuses. The U.S. Trustee acknowledged that § 503(c)(3) is inapplicable but suggested that the payments could possibly be deemed severance payments, therefore implicating § 503(c)(2). DN 92: DN 205. 11 “The purpose of this Supplement is to provide the Court and all interested parties with information regarding incentive bonuses and potential future employment opportunities being provided to certain members of the Debtor’s management team by Cerberus Capital Management, L.P.” DN 90. 12 Section 503(c) was a last minute addition to BAPCPA proposed by Senator Edward M. Kennedy, D–Mass. The addition of the Section occurred without any debate and there is no written record regarding the deliberations. A reported statement by Senator Kennedy explained that the amendment was “designed to stop the travesty of high-level corporate insiders who walk away with millions while the company’s worker’s and retirees are left empty-handed.” See Mike Casey, “Benefit Inequity Deepens Gap,” The Kansas City Star, July 24, 2005. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 6 In re Airway Industries, Inc., 354 B.R. 82 (2006) 56 Collier Bankr.Cas.2d 1059, 47 Bankr.Ct.Dec. 52 13 See Deposition of Robert C. Davenport, DN 214, Exh. C at 129, 132–35. 14 See 2/27/06 Sale Hearing Transcript, DN 180 at 34–65. 15 DN 205 at 4–8. 16 See DN 90 at 3. Debtor’s assertion in its motion to sell is not disputed. End of Document © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. © 2015 Thomson Reuters. No claim to original U.S. Government Works. 7 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 1 of 205 Page 1 1 UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT 2 DISTRICT OF DELAWARE 3 4 5 In re: : : 6 ENERGY FUTURE HOLDINGS : CORP., : et al., 7 Case No. 14-10979(CSS) : Debtors. 8 Chapter 11 : (Jointly Administered) ______________________________: 9 10 United States Bankruptcy Court 11 824 North Market Street 12 Wilmington, Delaware 13 14 15 October 15, 2014 16 10:15 AM - 5:19 PM 17 18 B E F O R E : 19 HON CHRISTOPHER S. SONTCHI 20 U.S. BANKRUPTCY JUDGE 21 22 23 24 25 ECR OPERATOR: 212-267-6868 LESLIE MURIN VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 2 of 205 Page 2 1 HEARING re Motion of Energy Future Holdings Corp., et al., 2 for Entry of an Order Authorizing the Debtors to (A) Pay 3 Certain Prepetition Amounts on Account of the Insider 4 Compensation Programs and (B) Continue the Insider 5 Compensation Programs in the Ordinary Course of Business on 6 a Postpetition Basis [D.I. 1792; filed August 8, 2014] 7 8 HEARING re Motion of Energy Future Holdings Corporation for 9 Entry of an Order Authorizing the Debtors to File Under Seal 10 the Certain Portions of Commercially Sensitive Information 11 Set Forth in the Debtors' Motion for Entry of an Order 12 Authorizing the Debtors to (A) Pay Certain Prepetition 13 Amounts on Account of the Insider Compensation Program and 14 (B) Continue the Insider Compensation Programs in the 15 Ordinary Court of Business on a Postpetition Basis [D.I. 16 1795; filed August 8, 2014] 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 Transcribed by: 25 and Melissa Looney 212-267-6868 Dawn South, Penny Skaw, Jamie M. Gallagher, VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 3 of 205 Page 3 1 A P P E A R A N C E S : 2 KIRKLAND & ELLIS 3 Attorneys for the Debtors 4 5 BY: DAVID DEMPSEY, ESQ. 6 EDWARD SASSOWER, ESQ. 7 MARK MCKANE, ESQ. 8 CHAD HUSNICK, ESQ. 9 10 RICHARDS, LAYTON & FINGER, P.A. 11 Attorneys for the Debtors 12 13 BY: 14 DANIEL J. DEFRANCESCHI, ESQ. JASON M. MADRON, ESQ. 15 16 FOX ROTHSCHILD 17 Attorney for TECH Unsecured Notes 18 19 BY: L. JOHN BIRD, ESQ. 20 21 YOUNG CONAWAY STARGATT & TAYLOR, LLP 22 Attorney for Ad Hoc Committee of TCEH First Lien 23 Creditors 24 25 BY: PAULINE K. MORGAN, ESQ. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 4 of 205 Page 4 1 ASHBY & GEDDES 2 Attorney for WSFS, Trustee 3 4 BY: STACY NEWMAN, ESQ. 5 6 KLEHR HARRISON 7 Attorney for UMB Bank, Indenture Trustee 8 9 BY: RAYMOND H. LEMISCH, ESQ. 10 11 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE 12 Attorneys for the U.S. Trustee 13 14 BY: RICHARD L. SCHEPACARTER, ESQ. 15 ANDREA B. SCHWARTZ, ESQ. 16 TIMOTHY J. FOX, JR., ESQ. 17 JULIET SARKESSIAN, ESQ. 18 19 COUSINS CHIPMAN & BROWN, LLP 20 Attorney for Ad Hoc Committee of EFIH Unsecured 21 Noteholders 22 23 BY: MARK O. OLIVERE, ESQ. 24 25 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 5 of 205 Page 5 1 POLSINELLI 2 Attorney for the Committee 3 4 BY: JUSTIN K. EDELSON, ESQ. 5 6 PACHULSKI STANG ZIEHL & JONES 7 Attorney for Computershare 8 9 BY: JAURA DAVIS JONES, ESQ. 10 11 ALSO PRESENT TELEPHONICALLY: 12 13 BRIAN S. HERMANN 14 PEG A. BRICKLEY 15 MATTHEW BROD 16 MICHAEL L. DAVITT 17 ADAM M. DENHOFF 18 CRAIG W. DENT 19 MARITA ERBECK 20 BENJAMIN FEDER 21 KEELY HAMLIN 22 MARK F. HEBBELN 23 WILLIAM HILDBOLD 24 NAOMI MOSS 25 NED S. SCHODEK 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 6 of 205 Page 6 1 APARNA YENAMANDRA 2 ROBERT MALONE 3 PATRICK STRAWBRIDGE 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 7 of 205 Page 7 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 THE CLERK: All rise. 3 THE COURT: Please be seated. 4 Anything before we begin? No? Good morning. All right. 5 Ms. Schwartz, call your witness. 6 MS. SCHWARTZ: Good morning, Your Honor. 7 Schwartz for the United States Trustee. 8 Ms. Sarkessian, will be doing Mr. Panacio's direct. 9 THE COURT: Okay. 10 MS. SCHWARTZ: 11 THE COURT: 12 THE CLERK: 14 (Witness Sworn) 15 THE CLERK: Thank you. Thank you, Your Honor. Mr. Panacio, please take the stand. Please raise your right hand. Please state and spell your name for the record. 17 18 My colleague, There you are. 13 16 Andrea THE WITNESS: My name is Michael Panacio, P as in Peter, A-N-A-C-I-O. 19 THE CLERK: Thank you. 20 MS. SARKESSIAN: Okay. Good morning, Your Honor. 21 Juliet Sarkessian on behalf of the U.S. Trustee. 22 DIRECT EXAMINATION 23 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 24 Q Mr. Panacio, with whom are you employed? 25 A The U.S. Trustee's Office. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 8 of 205 Page 8 1 Q And what is your position there? 2 A I'm a bankruptcy auditor. 3 Q Okay. 4 A Fourteen years. 5 Q Somewhat your education? 6 A I have a bachelor in science degree in accounting and 7 economics. 8 Q Do you hold any licenses? 9 A I hold a CPA license with the State of Pennsylvania in How long have you held that position? 10 good standing. 11 Q When was that license issued? 12 A 1995. 13 Q And approximately how long have you been practicing 14 accounting? 15 A Accounting since 1982. 16 Q Now, did you submit a declaration in these cases in 17 connection with the debtors' motion to pay certain bonuses 18 to officers? 19 A I did. 20 Q Were there certain exhibits attached to that 21 declaration? 22 A There were. 23 MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, I have marked an 24 additional exhibit, which I have provided to opposing 25 counsel. 212-267-6868 I would like to provide the Court with a copy and VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 9 of 205 Page 9 1 also hand that to the witness, if it pleases the Court. 2 THE COURT: 3 MR. MCKANE: 4 THE COURT: 5 6 Yes. No objection, Your Honor. Thank you. Do you have a copy for Ms. Werkheiser? (Pause) 7 THE COURT: 8 MS. SARKESSIAN: 9 Any objection? Is this an unredacted copy? That is correct, Your Honor. Yes, Your Honor, this is an unredacted copy, and this is not 10 something that we have filed, and I will have Mr. -- I will 11 have Mr. Panacio explain exactly what this is. 12 THE COURT: 13 MR. MCKANE: Very good. Your Honor, for the purpose of this 14 -- Mark McKane, Kirkland & Ellis for the record. 15 purposes of the record could we have this new Exhibit 36 16 included with the unredacted binder set as to not have any 17 confusion down the road as to whether -- which set it should 18 be included in? 19 20 We can supplement that binder. THE COURT: will do so. No, I have it here. MR. MCKANE: 22 MS. SARKESSIAN: Thank you, Your Honor. I apologize, I realize that the 23 copies are not hole punched. 24 can send over hole punched copies. THE COURT: 212-267-6868 We will -- we Thank you. 21 25 For the If that causes any problem we It's fine. VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 10 of 205 Page 10 1 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 2 Q 3 Trial Exhibit 36 and ask if you recognize that document? 4 A I do. 5 Q Okay. 6 do you know who created this document? 7 A I did. 8 Q And can you explain whether this document has any 9 relation to any of the exhibits that were attached to your So, Mr. Panacio, I show you what has been marked as And can you please -- well first of all who -- 10 declaration? 11 A This is in relation to Exhibit B to my declaration. 12 Q And can you explain how -- what the relation is? 13 A Well actually this is a revised updated version of 14 Exhibit B to my declaration. 15 Q And in what way has it been revised? 16 A Just two corrections. 17 the Luminant scorecards. 18 part reading those scorecards on the Luminant -- 19 Q 20 identify -- The one correction is regarding There was some confusion on my Well let's just stop for a minute, I just want to 21 MS. SARKESSIAN: And actually if I could point out 22 to the Court and opposing counsel as well, we have put in 23 larger font the numbers that have been changed just for ease 24 of reference so everybody knows what that is. 25 THE COURT: 212-267-6868 Oh, thank you. VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 11 of 205 Page 11 1 MS. SARKESSIAN: Okay. 2 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 3 Q 4 that in due course. 5 A Okay. 6 Q I just wanted to highlight that there were a few 7 changes. 8 A Right. 9 Q Okay. So actually, Mr. Panacio, I will -- we'll come down to Now, can you -- what I would like to do with 10 this document is I would like to go from the left column 11 over to the right column. 12 A Okay. 13 Q And in each instance I'm going ask you the type of 14 information that is contained there as well as where the 15 information comes from. 16 A I understand. 17 Q Okay. 18 to provide any numbers that appear on this chart unless I 19 specifically ask you, and we'll wait and give debtors' 20 counsel a moment if they have any issue with it. 21 understand that? 22 A I understand. 23 Q Okay. 24 the heading metric, could you explain what that information 25 is? 212-267-6868 Do you understand? And I'm going to caution you to be careful not Do you So starting with the far left column that has VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 12 of 205 Page 12 1 A These are the various performance metrics utilized by 2 the debtor. 3 Luminant, these are the various -- 4 Q 5 bit? 6 A Sorry about that. 7 Q Okay. 8 A These are the various performance metrics. 9 Q Of the debtors, correct? 10 A Of the debtors, correct. 11 Q And where did you obtain this information? 12 A I obtained the information from the specific scorecards 13 for each of the debtors. 14 Q 15 exhibit that is in evidence, it's Trial Exhibit 3 in your 16 binder, it should be the second item of the tab that says 3. 17 And I would ask you, is that the document you are referring 18 to as scorecards? 19 A Yes, it is. 20 Q Okay. 21 A They range from 2009 through 2013. 22 Q Then moving to the -- to the right we have five 23 columns, this is -- again, this is on Exhibit 36. 24 A Okay. 25 Q You have five columns with the heading 2009 actuals In this particular instance I'm looking at I'm sorry, Mr. Panacio, could you speak up a little Okay. 212-267-6868 And I would like to turn your attention to an And what years do those scorecards cover? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 13 of 205 Page 13 1 through 2013 actuals. 2 numbers that appear there, could you explain in general 3 terms what that information is? 4 A 5 in the scorecards, based on the number of metrics were used 6 I calculated an average. 7 Q Okay. 8 A Oh, sorry. 9 Q Okay. 10 A These are the actual figures taken from the scorecards. 11 Q Okay. 12 A Actual performance, right. 13 Q Okay. 14 Exhibit 3, correct? 15 A Correct. 16 Q Now, when we get to the column that says average, 17 again, without mentioning any particular figures, can you 18 explain what that information is and where it came from? 19 A 20 on the number of years the metric has been used. 21 these are numbers taken from the Luminant scorecards. 22 Q 23 with the average? 24 A For example -- 25 Q I'm sorry, just -- that's a yes or no. Yeah. Okay. Okay. 212-267-6868 And again, without stating any of the They are the actual amounts that were provided Well let's -- I'm not at the average yet. And by actual you mean actual performance? And scorecards again are referring to Trial The column represents the actual average based Again, Did you do any type of calculation to come up VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 14 of 205 Page 14 1 A Oh, yes. 2 Q Okay. 3 A Again, I'm not going to mention EBIDTA, but for 4 example, EBIDTA was used for five years, I totaled the 5 amount of each of the years, made a total, divided by five, 6 and calculated an average. 7 Q 8 columns headed 2014 threshold, 2014 baseline, and 2014 9 superior. And then proceed. Now, moving over further to the right there are three Can you explain in general terms what -- what the 10 figures under those columns represent? 11 A 12 from the Filsinger table 1- -- I believe it was 1-4. 13 Q 1-4? 14 A Right. 15 Q And that's the debtors' expert witness, correct? 16 A Correct. 17 Q Okay. 18 explain where those figures came from? 19 A 20 well. 21 Q 22 -- what is your understanding of what that term means? 23 A 24 with the various metrics in calculating their bonuses. 25 Q Okay. Yeah. These were the metric levels that I obtained Then the next column says weight. Can you The figures came from the actual scorecards as And what -- what does that term weight, what does that It's my understanding it's the percentage associated So if you add up the weight column all the figures it 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 15 of 205 Page 15 1 should total 100 percent, correct? 2 A It should add -- right, 100 percent. 3 Q Okay. 4 threshold versus average. 5 whether this is an number that you obtained from a document 6 or whether you calculated this? 7 A This is a number I calculated. 8 Q Okay. 9 and what it represents? Now we get to the next column that says And could you first clarify And could you explain how you calculated this 10 A For this particular column I took a threshold metrics 11 and subtracted from the actual average amounts. 12 Q Okay. 13 A For 2014, correct. 14 Q And then the average is for the five years prior, 15 correct? 16 A Correct. 17 Q Okay. 18 clarify. 19 And by the threshold metrics you mean for 2014? And then the next column -- oh, and let me just With respect to dollar figures on this -- on this 20 chart do we need to add any zeros to get it to the actual 21 figure? 22 A Yes. 23 Q How many zeros do you need to add? 24 A Regarding dollar figures it's six zeros, I mean 25 billions. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 16 of 205 Page 16 1 Q And the next column says superior versus average. 2 Could you clarify is this a number you calculated or did you 3 receive it from some source? 4 A 5 methodology I did with the threshold versus the average. 6 Q 7 superior target, correct? 8 A Correct. 9 Q To the average -- 10 A Correct. 11 Q -- for five years? 12 A Correct. 13 Q And the next column to the right the heading is mid- 14 year June YTD actual. 15 are and where they came from? 16 A 17 Filsinger declaration. 18 Q 19 showing? 20 A 21 30th. 22 Q 23 of the metrics? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Okay. This is number I also calculated using the same And in this instance you were comparing the 2014 Yeah. Could you explain what those numbers These were figures I had taken from the I believe it was table 1-3. And what do these figures represent? What are they They're showing actual year to date as of June -- June Performance -- actual year to date performance for each 212-267-6868 And the next column next to that says projection VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 17 of 205 Page 17 1 for full year. 2 calculated? 3 A 4 It's -- 5 Q Can you explain what it is and how you calculated it? 6 A Yeah. 7 and multiplying by two. 8 Q 9 numbers for the -- for the full year of 2014? Yeah. Could you explain, is that something you In this column -- I did calculate this column. It was taken mid-year June year to date actual And that -- your goal in doing that was to project 10 A Right. I took from the standpoint all things 11 considered equal for the first half of the year, I just 12 projected it out to the end of the year. 13 Q 14 versus target. 15 and where this came from? 16 A 17 exceeding the highest metric level whether it be threshold, 18 baseline, or superior. 19 Q 20 that, the projection that you made for the full year -- 21 A Right. 22 Q -- and you compared that to the 2014 threshold, 23 baseline, and superior? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Okay. And then we come to the final column, it's projection Could you explain what this intends to show It's our projection in the column previous to that Okay. 212-267-6868 So just to clarify, you took the column before Now, with respect to the EBIDTA figures -- I'm VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 18 of 205 Page 18 1 sorry, let me back up. 2 You have one chart -- is it correct you have one 3 chart for Luminant and then the second page relates to TXU, 4 correct? 5 A Correct. 6 Q And then the third page relates to the Business 7 Services, correct? 8 A Correct. 9 Q Okay. So just keeping with the Luminant page for the 10 time being, when you look at the various metrics that the 11 debtors consider for determining bonuses which item is the 12 most heavily weighted? 13 A The EBIDTA. 14 Q Okay. 15 correct? 16 A Correct. 17 Q Okay. 18 A I believe that was 40 percent. 19 Q Okay. 20 metrics are, I would like you to distinguish, if you can, 21 between those metrics that are revenue driven and those that 22 are cost driven. 23 -- can you break that up a little for us? 24 A 25 EBIDTA, the available generation line items, coal -- the Yeah. 212-267-6868 And that's the 37.5 percent for Luminant, And what's the percentage for TXU? Now, going back to the far left column where the So looking at this Luminant page can you I believe that the revenue-driven metrics are VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 19 of 205 Page 19 1 coal available generation and a nuclear generation line. 2 Q 3 typically want to see those revenue-driven numbers go up or 4 down? 5 A Obviously going up. 6 Q Okay. 7 that are listed here that are cross-driven metrics? 8 A Correct. 9 Q Okay. And which ones are those? 10 A Okay. They're the Luminant O&M/SGA, the Luminant Cap 11 X, the Luminant fossil fuel costs. 12 Q 13 figures for a couple of years? 14 A 15 that's Cap X or Oak Road and Sandel (ph), I believe it's 16 just used for 2009. 17 Q 18 focus now is on the column that is headed threshold versus 19 average. 20 A All right. 21 Q And you've testified that that's a calculation that you 22 did preparing the 2014 thresholds with the average past 23 five-year actual performance, correct? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Okay. So with respect to those numbers would a company And then are there some items -- some metrics And the bottom one there it looks like there was only Yeah, the bottom -- the Luminant management EBIDTA Okay. 212-267-6868 Now keeping with Luminant what I would like to Okay? And I am now going to ask you to focus on VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 20 of 205 Page 20 1 certain numbers that are in that column, and I'm going to 2 ask debtors' counsel if they have any problem with those 3 numbers being stated in court. 4 the copy that was filed? 5 MR. MCKANE: They were not redacted on Your Honor, if I could just confer 6 with my client. 7 because it's a five-year average and I don't think he can 8 back into any one of the -- one of the five-year actuals by 9 comparing a threshold to a five-year average. 10 I don't think that there's a problem So, I don't think we have a problem, but I just want to confer. 11 THE COURT: 12 MR. MCKANE: Well the threshold amount is not. The threshold amount is not, but if 13 you could -- and basically you can confer -- you can back 14 out what the five-year average is by using the threshold and 15 the difference. 16 THE COURT: 17 MR. MCKANE: Right, so you have a problem with it. And then I want to confirm that is 18 the five-year average itself sufficiently problematic? 19 think it is because we redacted it previously, so I'd ask 20 that -- 21 MS. SARKESSIAN: 22 MR. MCKANE: 23 Well, no -- -- directionally discussed the number -- 24 25 I THE COURT: Ms. Sarkessian (indiscernible - 10:32:17). 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 21 of 205 Page 21 1 (Bench Conference) 2 THE COURT: May I make a suggestion? 3 MS. SARKESSIAN: 4 MR. MCKANE: 5 THE COURT: I think we've figured it out. Please, Your Honor. Okay. Due to the sensitive nature I 6 think I have the numbers in front of me, I think we can 7 identify them by reference without ever actually having to 8 -- with EBIDTA and contribution margin. 9 MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, I do understand that, 10 I think we -- I think we've clarified. 11 they there certain numbers, the target numbers, they thought 12 those had been disclosed and they have not, they've been 13 redacted and will be filed. 14 any issue. 15 MR. MCKANE: They thought that So I think that we don't have Your Honor, we're more comfortable 16 with the approach that you just recommended given, that it's 17 easier for everyone and it's more precautionary. 18 19 THE COURT: Right. Well if you tell me -- if I know what the average is -- 20 MR. MCKANE: 21 THE COURT: 22 MR. MCKANE: 23 THE COURT: Right. -- and I know the delta between -That's right. -- and you tell me what the delta is 24 between average and threshold it's a simple mathematical 25 exercise to know what threshold is. 212-267-6868 So that's the problem. VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 22 of 205 Page 22 1 MS. SARKESSIAN: No, Your Honor, because we're not 2 going to say what the average is, we're not going the say 3 what any of the targets are. 4 is what the -- the delta are between the threshold and the 5 average. 6 MR. MCKANE: The only thing we're going say And, Your Honor, just to be clear, 7 while it may be a redaction on this page the actual -- the 8 thresholds are -- have been disclosed throughout the 9 hearing. 10 So if you put out what the difference is you can back into the average. 11 THE COURT: Yeah, let's not use numbers in 12 connection with EBIDTA and contribution margin. 13 can adequately make your record by referencing what's there. 14 MS. SARKESSIAN: 15 THE COURT: 16 MS. SARKESSIAN: 17 manner. 18 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 19 Q I will -- And I can see and follow. Okay. I will proceed in that So -- 20 21 Okay, Your Honor. I think you MS. SARKESSIAN: I'm sorry, Your Honor, I just have to take a moment to make sure -- 22 THE COURT: 23 MS. SARKESSIAN: 24 correctly. 25 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 212-267-6868 That's fine. -- that I phrase questions VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 23 of 205 Page 23 1 Q So, Mr. Panacio, focusing on the EBIDTA number for 2 Luminant and the column that is threshold versus average, 3 okay, and we've already established that for all the dollar 4 figures on this page you need to add six zeros, correct? 5 A Correct. 6 Q Okay. 7 in parentheticals can you explain what that means? 8 without giving any figures what that means. 9 A And if a number that appears in that column is I want to be careful too. Again, It's the difference between 10 threshold and average. 11 Q So if the number is negative -- 12 A It's a negative. 13 Q What is that -- if the number is negative what does 14 that mean? 15 A 16 has dropped. 17 Q 18 target for 2014 -- 19 A EBIDTA level has dropped. 20 Q The target -- 21 A The target levels. 22 Q -- the target is lower by the number appearing in that 23 column -- 24 A Right. 25 Q -- as compared with what the average performance was Well for this particular metric your performance level Okay. 212-267-6868 The -- well is it the -- you're comparing the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 24 of 205 Page 24 1 for the last five years? 2 A Correct. 3 Q Okay. 4 5 Now -MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, if I can have a moment? 6 THE COURT: Uh-huh. 7 MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, I just want to put on 8 the record that with respect to the Luminant page the 9 debtors don't have any issue with any of the other numbers 10 appearing in that column, so -- 11 THE COURT: Okay. 12 MS. SARKESSIAN: -- since nobody has an objection 13 I'm going to proceed with Mr. Panacio, and I will tell you 14 if you can actually state the figure, okay? 15 THE WITNESS: Okay. 16 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 17 Q 18 didn't do the comparison for the next -- next two things, 19 correct? 20 A Correct. 21 Q Permanent base load and coal available generation? 22 A Correct. 23 Q Because -- what was the reason for that that you didn't 24 do that comparison? 25 A All right. Dropping down now to -- there's no -- you Well a couple reasons. 212-267-6868 One, the weight of the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 25 of 205 Page 25 1 percentage scale has changed, or two, there wasn't 2 sufficient enough data to make that complete average. 3 Q 4 as metrics as far as you know based on the scorecards? 5 A Those two no. 6 Q Okay. 7 coal available generation June through September 15. 8 see that? 9 A I do. 10 Q Okay. 11 threshold versus average can you translate that figure -- 12 now you can give the figure -- say what that figure is, 13 please? 14 A 15 19130 -- 16 Q 17 no, no, no, no, no, wait. 18 MS. SARKESSIAN: 19 THE WITNESS: And are they still -- is the debtor still using those Those specific line items, no. So then let's go down to the next one, which is So if we go down to the column that says Right. Well yeah, I took the threshold number of Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry. I'm sorry, Your Honor. That's available. BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 21 Q That is -- 22 A Not EBIDTA or contribution. 23 Q That's not EBIDTA. 24 number. 25 it's better to be a little extra careful. Excuse me. No, Oh, wait, that's not -- 20 212-267-6868 You Okay. I'm sorry. You can say that Sorry, I'm a little extra paranoid, but VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 26 of 205 Page 26 1 Okay. So I'm sorry, you said that under 2014 2 threshold, right, that number is what, translated with the 3 extra zeros? 4 A It's 19,138,000. 5 Q Okay. 6 A And the average of 20,299,000. 7 Q Okay. 8 do you get? 9 A It's about 1.1 negative. 10 Q 1.1 billion -- 11 A In the negative. 12 Q -- negative. 13 that the threshold for 2014 for that metric is $1.1 billion 14 less than average actual for the last five years, correct? 15 A Correct. 16 Q Okay. 17 available generation, January through May and September 16 18 through December. 19 A I do. 20 Q Okay. 21 36 billion and change, correct? 22 A Correct. 23 Q Okay. 24 number? 25 A And you compared that number to -- And when you'd make that comparison what number It was a negative -- And when you say negative then that means Going down to the next metric, which is coal Do you see that? So then the 2014 threshold for that is -- that's And you compared that to again the -- what The -- in this case we did a two-year average of 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 27 of 205 Page 27 1 37 billion -- 37.7 billion. 2 Q 3 information, correct? 4 A Correct. 5 Q Okay. 6 difference, again, shown in the column that says threshold 7 versus average? 8 A 9 negative $1.4 billion. And that was because you only had two years of And when you do that math what is -- what is the Again it's -- I'm kind of rounding the number -- it's a 10 Q Okay. So again, that's showing that the 2014 threshold 11 is 1. -- approximately 1.4 billion less than the average 12 five-year actual performance of the debtors, correct? 13 A Correct. 14 Q Okay. 15 and again, if you could just explain the figure that appears 16 there. 17 A 18 19 -- like 19 billion and change, subtracting from the 19 average or 19.8 -- 20 Q And that -- 21 A -- and the difference is a negative 818,000,000. 22 Q So again, the threshold in that instance is 818- less 23 than the average actual performance for the last five years, 24 correct? 25 A And then the next item is nuclear generation, What's that number? Okay. I believe these are units, not dollars. It'd be Correct. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 28 of 205 Page 28 1 Q Okay. 2 see that, correct? 3 A I do. 4 Q Okay. 5 threshold versus average there? 6 A 7 threshold amount, subtracted from the average, and I obtain 8 a positive 70 -- well, a positive 70.25. 9 Q Okay. 10 A Seventy million. 11 Q Right. 12 number, correct? 13 A That -- correct. 14 Q Okay. 15 want that number to be higher or lower? 16 A 17 enhance performance. 18 Q 19 70 million higher than the average last five years, correct? 20 A Correct. 21 Q Okay. 22 Cap X. 23 A Correct. 24 Q Okay. 25 is one where you'll see under average that the font is Okay. Now when we move down to Luminant O&M/SGA. You Now, could you explain the number that's Again, I took the threshold amount -- 2014 And that would be 70 million? Seventy million. Now that is -- that's a cost So is that a number -- cost number, would you Ideally you want the number obviously to be lower to So in this instance the threshold is actually 212-267-6868 Now we get to the next column which is Luminant Now let me just pause for a minute, because this VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 29 of 205 Page 29 1 bigger indicating this was something that was corrected, 2 right? 3 A This was corrected, yes. 4 Q Okay. 5 explain the 685-, what is that an average of? 6 A 7 2013. 8 Q 9 four, correct? And could you explain -- well first of all Well the 685- is an average from the year 2010 through Okay. And you added those together and divided by 10 A Yeah, then divide by four, correct. 11 Q Okay. 12 why the number was different previously? 13 A 14 card for 2009, I mistakenly included Luminant management 15 EBIDTA less Cap X. 16 negative 410- and that was again I wanted to make the 17 correction. 18 Q 19 Luminant Cap X on the scorecard? 20 A That particular item they did not, right. 21 Q Now, if you look here for that line item, threshold 22 versus average -- 23 A Yes. 24 Q -- that is a negative 123 million, correct? 25 A Correct. Now previously can you just explain what the -- It's based on a scorecard, I guess the original score Okay. 212-267-6868 The very last line item I included a Because in 2009 they actually did not track the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 30 of 205 Page 30 1 Q Okay. Now that's a figure you would want to be lower, 2 correct? 3 A Right, reducing cost, right. 4 Q Okay. 5 Cap X is actually lower than the average actuals for the 6 past four years, correct? 7 A Correct. 8 Q Okay. 9 this page, which is Luminant fossil fuel costs, and this is So in this instance the threshold for Luminant And then we get to the very last one here on 10 -- again, this is a cost, correct? 11 A Correct. 12 Q And the number that appears under threshold versus 13 average is .04 and that's a positive number, correct? 14 A Correct. 15 Q Okay. 16 slightly higher than the average for the past five years, 17 correct? 18 A Correct. 19 Q Okay. 20 we leave the Luminant chart -- 21 A All right. 22 Q -- and focus on the last three columns to the right. 23 And I will remind you that the EBIDTA numbers shall not be 24 stated, okay? 25 A And that means that the 2004 threshold is Now, I also want to just go for a moment before Correct. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 31 of 205 Page 31 1 Q And I just want -- going to your last column where 2 you've testified you've compared the projection that you 3 made for the full year by taking the half year and 4 multiplying it by two, and you compared that to the 5 threshold, the baseline, and the superior. 6 So with respect to Luminant what did that end up 7 being in terms of exceeding -- let's see -- either being 8 above or below the threshold, baseline, superior numbers? 9 A Yeah. Well we had four of the performance metric line 10 items where they exceeded either baseline or threshold or 11 superior. 12 Q Okay. 13 A Correct. 14 Q Okay. 15 TXU. 16 A Okay. 17 Q And some of these metrics are different, correct, than 18 the Luminant? 19 A Yes. 20 Q Okay. 21 reminding you that no -- no numbers shall be stated. 22 A Right. 23 Q But focusing on your column threshold versus average. 24 This is a -- we've established that the numbers in 25 parentheticals mean less -- that the threshold is less than 212-267-6868 And that's what's indicated in that column? Now, I'd like to turn to the next page, which is So let's start with the EBIDTA numbers, again, VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 32 of 205 Page 32 1 the average, correct? 2 A That's correct. 3 Q Okay. 4 correct? 5 A Correct. 6 Q Okay. 7 superior and average the same thing, right? 8 A Correct. 9 Q Okay. And you add the six zeros to every number, And then you do the similar with respect to Now let's go down to TXU total energy costs. So 10 now, first let's clarify, is this a revenue-driven item or a 11 cost-driven item? 12 A It is a cost-driven item. 13 Q Okay. 14 those numbers to be lower rather than higher, correct? 15 A Right, ideally you want them lower, right. 16 Q Okay. 17 can be stated, so in this instance when you compare the 18 threshold to the average you have -- you're showing that the 19 threshold for 2014 is actually $53 million lower than what 20 the average was for the last five years, correct? 21 A Correct. 22 Q Okay. 23 correct? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Okay. 212-267-6868 So with respect to cost-driven items you want So in this instance, and these are numbers that And then the superior is 105 million below, When we get to contribution margin, and these VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 33 of 205 Page 33 1 are numbers that we're not going to say, but the 2 contribution margin, is that revenue driven or cost driven? 3 A It's revenue driven. 4 Q Okay. 5 the higher number -- 6 A A higher number. 7 Q -- than the lower number, right? 8 without saying the number we see what the number is in that 9 line. So in that instance you would want a positive -- Okay. And we -- 10 A Right. 11 Q Going down to residential ending customer account. 12 you have a general understanding of what that is? 13 figure -- what that represents essentially? 14 A 15 which you want to enhance. 16 Q Right. 17 A And more customers, right. 18 Q Okay. 19 -- the threshold for 2004 against the average actual for the 20 last five -- no three years -- four years, excuse me. 21 A Four years. 22 Q Four years, the threshold is actually 168 units less 23 than the average, correct? 24 A Correct. 25 Q And then for the superior versus the average the Right. 212-267-6868 Do What that I would -- it's a metric or performance metric We want to have more customers not -- So there when you compared the threshold against VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 34 of 205 Page 34 1 superior figure is 125 units less than the average, correct? 2 A Correct. 3 Q Okay. 4 that would be something you would want to increase, right? 5 A Right. 6 Q Okay. 7 against the -- let's see -- the average for -- I'm sorry. 8 I'm starting to -- I think I need to take a ruler to make 9 sure they're right. 10 Now the next item is customer satisfaction, so So here when you compare the threshold for 2014 Make sure I'm getting the right numbers here. 11 Okay. So there when you made a comparison the 12 threshold is slightly less, 2.82 as compared with the 13 average for the last five years, correct? 14 A Correct. 15 Q Okay. 16 is, right? 17 A Slightly above, right. 18 Q Okay. 19 you have an understanding of whether that's a number that we 20 would want higher or lower? 21 A 22 tax or collection. 23 Q Okay. 24 A That's my understanding. 25 Q All right. And superior is slightly above what the average Now the TXU average day sales outstanding, do Well you want that lower as far as -- regarding AR to 212-267-6868 And here's it's -- the average is slightly VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 35 of 205 Page 35 1 -- slightly higher than the -- I'm sorry -- the threshold is 2 slightly higher than the average, correct? 3 A Correct. 4 Q TXU energizing event success, that's the next metric. 5 Is that something you want higher or lower in your 6 understanding? 7 A My understanding is it'd be obviously something higher. 8 Q Okay. 9 higher compared to the average, correct? And it's here the threshold is very slightly 10 A Correct. 11 Q Okay. 12 this is one where a number was corrected for the 2014 13 threshold, correct? 14 A That's correct. 15 Q Okay. 16 the number you were using previously? 17 A We were -- we used the non-insider metric. 18 Q Okay. 19 A That was accidental. 20 Q Okay. 21 want that number lower rather than higher, right? 22 you did not -- 23 A Right. 24 Q -- you went through an average here because -- 25 A Right. 212-267-6868 Then we get to the TXU customer complaints. Now And previously you had a number that -- what was That was -- was that on purpose on an accident? Customer complaints I think we'd all agree you'd VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com Oh, but 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 36 of 205 Page 36 1 Q -- right, because there wasn't -- I see -- 2 A Yeah, sufficient -- 3 Q -- sufficient -- 4 A -- historical data, and we didn't do that. 5 Q And one -- 6 THE COURT: I'm sorry. Wait a minute, I'm sorry, 7 you talked over each other and you tailed off at the end, 8 so. 9 MS. SARKESSIAN: I'm sorry, let me ask the 10 question again. I apologize, Your Honor. 11 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 12 Q 13 a comparison of the threshold versus average or superior 14 versus average, correct? 15 A That's correct. 16 Q And why didn't you do that comparison? 17 A Because in 2012 there's actually a percentage figure 18 stated on a scorecard, in 2013 there was an actual number. 19 Q Okay. 20 A But it wasn't consistent so I didn't feel comfortable 21 doing any type of average on that. 22 Q 23 that a number you would want to have a higher number or a 24 lower number? 25 A So in this instance for this number you did for the do Okay. So you -- Then when we get to TXU system availability, is Higher number. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 37 of 205 Page 37 1 Q Okay. And here we when you compared threshold versus 2 average it's very slightly lower than -- the threshold is 3 very slightly lower than the average, correct? 4 A Correct. 5 Q Okay. 6 column, which is again the projection for the full year 7 versus the targets, you've indicated in a number of cases 8 whether it exceeds a particular threshold, correct? 9 A And then just stopping momentarily on the last Right. The highest metric -- the highest threshold -- 10 the highest level above the metric. 11 Q 12 Business Services. 13 but -- and I would focus your attention on the column that 14 says threshold versus average, and this shows you the 15 difference between the 2014 threshold target and the average 16 performance for the last five years, correct? 17 A Correct. 18 Q And you add six zeros to the end, right? 19 A Correct. 20 Q Okay. 21 I'm sorry -- the next two metrics, Luminant's scorecard 22 multiplier and TXU's scorecard multiplier, and these are in 23 percentages, right? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Okay. Then we're going turn to the last page, which is for 212-267-6868 Again we won't mention EBIDTA numbers, Correct. We then have the next -- the next two figures -- And if you compare -- do you have a -- do you VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 38 of 205 Page 38 1 have a general understanding of what these metrics are meant 2 to reflect? 3 A A general understanding, yes. 4 Q Okay. 5 terms of -- 6 A 7 understanding it's taking into consideration the various 8 weighted scales on those Luminant performance metrics, and 9 the same scenario with the TXU Energy scorecard as well. Could you -- could you just explain that in Well the Luminant scorecard multiplier it's my 10 Q So when you look at the targets for like 2014 11 threshold, for example, Luminant's scorecard multiplier is 12 50 percent, that is -- you're showing that as being 80 13 percent lower than what the average was for the last five 14 years, right? 15 A Correct. 16 Q And then when you go down to the last total, the EFH 17 total spend and the EFH Business Services SG&A direct costs, 18 those are dash those are cost-driven figures, correct? 19 A Correct, they're cost driven, right. 20 Q Okay. 21 than higher, right? 22 A Right. 23 Q And in fact for the EFH total spend the numbers -- when 24 you compare the threshold to the average and the superior 25 average it is actually lower, correct? 212-267-6868 So you want those figures to be lower rather VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 39 of 205 Page 39 1 A They are actually lower, right. 2 Q Okay. 3 it's a little bit higher, right? 4 A Slightly higher, right. 5 Q Okay. 6 But then when you get down to the direct cost You can put that exhibit aside for the moment. I would like to ask you, did you do any 7 calculations relating to the debtors' metrics for EBIDTA 8 that were not reflected on the charts? 9 A I did. 10 Q Okay. 11 A I compared the actual EBIDTA to the threshold, 12 baseline, and superior targets for each of the years of 2009 13 through 2013 for Luminant, TXU, and Business Services. 14 Q Okay. 15 A Yes. 16 Q Okay. 17 actual results with the threshold, baseline, superior 18 targets that were set for that particular year, right? 19 A Correct. 20 Q Okay. 21 got those figures and then did you average them in some 22 fashion? 23 A 24 threshold amount, and obtain a difference, and I did that 25 for each, you know, consecutive years. And what did you compare? So you looked at each year separately, right? And you -- for each year you were comparing the How did you -- so -- okay. So you put -- you Right, I took the actual EBIDTA, subtracted the 212-267-6868 Took a five-year VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 40 of 205 Page 40 1 average and converted it to a percentage. 2 Q Okay. 3 4 MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, may I ask counsel a question? 5 THE COURT: 6 Yeah. (Pause) 7 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 8 Q 9 these numbers -- testifying to these numbers. So I've clarified it's not a problem with you giving So I'm going 10 to ask you, could you tell us when you -- when you looked at 11 the Luminant EBIDTA -- when you looked at the actual results 12 compared to the threshold targets for each year and then you 13 average them over the five years what -- what figure did you 14 get? 15 A 16 EBIDTA it exceeded threshold amounts by 20.86 percent. 17 Q Okay. 18 A 20.86. 19 Q All right. 20 baseline, when you compared the baseline target for each 21 year against the actual and then averaged it out what was 22 that number? 23 A It exceeded by 4.74 percent. 24 Q Okay. 25 the target? Yeah, for the Luminant -- for Luminant management 212-267-6868 By 20.86? And how about the -- how about the The target -- I'm sorry -- the actuals exceeded VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 41 of 205 Page 41 1 A The actuals exceeded baseline target, right. 2 Q Okay. 3 A The superior was not met. 4 Q Okay. 5 when you looked at the actual EBIDTA for each separate year 6 and you compared it to what the threshold target was and 7 then you average it over the five years what -- what number 8 did you get? 9 A And then how about for the superior target? And then the same question with respect to TXU Well the TXU EBIDTA exceeded threshold levels by 42.42 10 percent. 11 Q And how about the baseline? 12 A Exceeded baseline by 13.54 percent. 13 Q And how about superior? 14 A 3.52 percent. 15 Q Okay. 16 respect to TXU the actuals in every instance exceeded not 17 only the threshold, baseline, and superior as well? 18 A For TXU, yes. 19 Q Okay. 20 when you compared -- when you did that calculation for the 21 threshold targets what did you find? 22 A 23 metric amounts by 22.68 percent. 24 Q Okay. 25 A 2.26 percent. So the -- just to clarify, so on average with Now with respect to the Business Services EBIDTA The EBIDTA exceeded threshold amount -- the threshold 212-267-6868 And how about baseline targets? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 42 of 205 Page 42 1 Q Is that exceeded or on -- 2 A Exceeded. 3 Q Okay. 4 A And the superior was not met. 5 Q If you looked at -- now you were just talking about 6 your averages over the last five years, but if you looked at 7 each one of the five years separately for 2009 to 2013 was 8 there any year in which Luminant, TXU, or Business Services 9 did not -- that their actual performance did not exceed the It actually exceeded the baseline. And then how about superior? 10 threshold EBIDTA target? 11 A 12 year. 13 Q Okay. 14 A But never below threshold. 15 Q Okay. 16 separately were there any years in which Luminant, TXU, or 17 Business Services did not meet the baseline EBIDTA target, 18 the next higher target? 19 A 20 baseline target. 21 Q But the rest of the years they did -- 22 A Yeah. 23 Q -- exceed baseline? 24 A Yes. 25 Q Okay. Threshold -- they met the threshold consistently every So -- but never below the threshold? And then again looking at each five years Yeah, I believe TXU Energy in 2011 did not meet the 212-267-6868 Right. Now, Mr. Panacio, I'm going draw your attention VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 43 of 205 Page 43 1 to an exhibit that I believe has already been entered into 2 evidence, Exhibit 34 -- Trial Exhibit 34, and that should be 3 in your binder. 4 A Okay. 5 Q Okay. 6 A I do. 7 Q Okay. 8 A I do. 9 Q Okay. 10 A I did. 11 Q Does it have any relationship to any of the documents 12 that were attached to your declaration? 13 A It's an exhibit attached to my declaration I believe. 14 Q Are there any changes in this version as compared to 15 what was attached to your declaration? 16 A 17 and there was one entity, we had a transposition error on 18 Exelon Corporation, you do see the corrected amount for 2012 19 at 2.5-. 20 Q Okay. 21 A Million. 22 Q Now can you explain in general terms what -- what this 23 document shows? 24 A 25 insider compensation PowerPoint presentation they referred Do you have that? Do you recognize this document? And who created this document? There was some changes regarding rounding differences Net income of 2.5 million. Reading the Frisky (ph) declaration and reading the EFH 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 44 of 205 Page 44 1 to peer group companies using the basis for -- you know, for 2 generating their bonus programs. 3 these peer group companies were actually comparable to EFH. 4 Q 5 of the first page that is EFH, correct? 6 A That's correct. 7 Q Okay. So the -- in other words the company that's on the top 8 9 And -THE COURT: Are we -- I missed what exhibit we're on. 10 11 MS. SARKESSIAN: THE COURT: 13 MS. SARKESSIAN: That's my fault. THE COURT: 16 MS. SARKESSIAN: 17 THE COURT: my apologies. It's the MOR? Okay. No, okay. No, it's -I see it. Thank you. Sorry, You better actually back up then. 19 MS. SARKESSIAN: 20 THE COURT: 21 MS. SARKESSIAN: 22 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 23 Q Yeah, we'll back up. My apologies. Okay. So, I think -- let me back up too. 24 25 -- 34, which my understanding has already been admitted into evidence on consent. 15 18 Oh, I'm sorry, Your Honor, it's Exhibit -- 12 14 But I wanted so see if So what -- is you already testified that this document was attached to your declaration but it just had a 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 45 of 205 Page 45 1 few corrections, right? 2 A Correct. 3 Q Okay. 4 this document is. 5 document, if you could just repeat that for the judge now 6 that he has it in front of him. 7 A 8 and EFH insider compensation PowerPoint presentation, I 9 think it was August 6th, they reference peer group Sure. So -- and then I asked you what the intention of What do you -- what do you show on this Based on my reading of the Frisky declaration 10 companies, which EFH kind of mirrors developing their own -- 11 the bonus programs for executives. 12 these peer group companies are actually comparable to EFH. 13 Q 14 have EFH, correct? 15 A I do. 16 Q Okay. 17 here, where did you get the names of these companies? 18 A 19 declaration and from the EFH insider compensation PowerPoint 20 presentation. 21 Q 22 document, which is also in evidence as Exhibit 5, that 23 should be in your binder. 24 compensation document you were referring to? 25 A Okay. So I wanted to see if So on the first page at the top you actually Now the rest of the companies that are shown Well the names -- two places actually. From the Frisky And I'm just going call your attention to that And ask if this is the insider Yes. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 46 of 205 Page 46 1 Q Okay. And do you recall what page actually showed the 2 -- the peer group companies? 3 A It is page 63. 4 Q Okay. 5 I would also ask you is there a page in this document that 6 indicates from the companies that are listed on page 63 what 7 type of metrics they use? 8 as a metric. 9 document -- Now, I'd like to, while you're on that document, For example, if they use EBIDTA Do you recall there being something in this 10 A In this particular document, page 61 -- 11 Q Uh-huh. 12 A -- the energy related companies use these various 13 metrics as a model in calculating their bonus programs. 14 Q 15 percentage of the companies -- these -- what we'll call peer 16 group companies -- 17 A Uh-huh. 18 Q -- used EBIDTA as a metric in connection with the bonus 19 program? 20 A 21 particular page from the Towers Watson's study looking at 22 the year 2013, 20 percent of these companies use EBIDTA. 23 Q 24 which is Exhibit 34. 25 A Okay. Right. Okay. And what does it show in terms of what Well again, understanding the -- this Now going back to the document you created, Okay. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 47 of 205 Page 47 1 Q So the information with respect to the debtors and the 2 various other companies that are listed there, the operating 3 revenues, the net income or loss, and the long-term debt, 4 where did you get that information from? 5 A From the SEC 10-K reports. 6 Q Okay. 7 peer groups in the -- excuse me -- EFH insider compensation 8 materials from August 6, 2014? 9 that you did not conclude on this chart? And were there any companies that were listed as Where there any in there 10 A I did not include American Electric Power Company and 11 the Dominion Resources, Inc. 12 Q And why did you not include them? 13 A I could not find any information on the -- you know, 14 regarding the SEC reports, the 10-Ks. 15 Q 16 obviously numbers that are in parentheticals indicate 17 losses, correct? 18 A Correct. 19 Q And are these numbers also in billions? 20 A They are in billions. 21 Q Okay. 22 years shown, correct? 23 A Correct. 24 Q Okay. 25 you know, peer group, that show net losses for any of these Now looking at the column for net income or loss, 212-267-6868 And the debtor shows net losses for those three Are there any other companies listed from this, VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 48 of 205 Page 48 1 years? 2 A 3 had a net loss. 4 Q Okay. 5 A But for the most part consistently they had a net 6 income. 7 Q 8 think the only other one I see on the last page is NRG -- 9 I'm sorry, second to the last page -- NRG Energy has a loss There are a few companies in specific years that have Okay. So I see Cap Line for 2011 had a loss, and I 10 in 2013, correct? 11 A Correct. 12 Q And the rest of them for all the rest of the years 13 they're showing a net income gain, correct? 14 A Correct. 15 Q Okay. 16 have the same -- approximate same amount of long-term debt 17 as the debtor does? 18 A The closest on comparable is Duke Energy Corporation. 19 Q Okay. 20 A That's the bottom of the first page, yeah. 21 Q All right. 22 Duke Energy versus EFH and the numbers are -- look to me to 23 be exactly the same, right? 24 A Virtually the same, right. 25 Q 38.2 billion, correct? 212-267-6868 Now are there any companies on this chart that And that's the bottom of the first page, right? And if you compare the years 2013 for that VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 49 of 205 Page 49 1 A Correct. 2 Q Okay. 3 net income for the last three years, correct? 4 A Correct. 5 Q Okay. 6 to look at net income for these companies, these other 7 companies? 8 A 9 these comparable companies, did they have the ability to Yet Duke Energy has shown net income -- positive So can you just explain why it was that wanted Well, I wanted to see the -- the financial condition of 10 consistently pay bonuses of various -- to the various 11 executives, and I wanted to see if they actually can -- to 12 be able to service their long-term debt as well. 13 Q 14 Exhibit 28, so that should also be in your binder? I'm going to ask you to turn to what's been marked as 15 THE COURT: 16 MS. SARKESSIAN: 17 THE COURT: 18 28? 28. Thank you. (Pause) 19 MS. SARKESSIAN: 20 THE COURT: 21 MS. SARKESSIAN: 22 THE COURT: Has Your Honor found that? I have. Okay. Thank you. 23 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 24 Q Mr. Panacio, have you seen this document before? 25 A Yes. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 50 of 205 Page 50 1 Q And who created this document? 2 A I did. 3 Q Okay. 4 the exhibits that were attached to your declaration? 5 A Yes. 6 Q Okay. 7 A Correct. 8 Q Okay. 9 to this as far as you know? And does this document have any connection to This was Exhibit D to your declaration, correct? And were there any changes that have been made 10 A This particular exhibit, no. 11 Q Okay. 12 that's on this exhibit, what this shows? 13 A 14 Competitive Holdings Company, which has an indirect 15 ownership interest in Luminant and TXU. 16 Q And then you also show information for EFH as well? 17 A And information from the year 2009 through the year 18 2013 providing operating revenues, net income, in this case 19 net losses for most part, the working capital, and the long- 20 term debt. 21 Q 22 reviewed to put together the exhibits to your declaration 23 and also the information that is reflected in your 24 declaration, which some of which you've testified to today. 25 And I assume nobody has any objection he will actually look Now, could you just explain the information Well EFCH obviously it stands for Energy Future Mr. Panacio, I'd like to ask you what documents you 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 51 of 205 Page 51 1 at his declaration to refresh your recollection. 2 would that be helpful? 3 A That'd be helpful, yes, it would. 4 Q Okay. 5 Exhibit 24. 6 A Right. 7 Q Okay. 8 currently for purposes of using it in court. 9 A Okay. Is that -- So your declaration is -- is marked as That is not in evidence. It's just marked I looked at the debtors' motion to pay certain 10 prepetition amounts on accounting insider compensation 11 programs, and continuing insider compensation programs in 12 the ordinary course of business. 13 insider compensation discussion materials PowerPoint 14 presentation. 15 Q And we've identified that as Exhibit 5, correct? 16 A Correct. 17 Q Sorry. 18 A I took a look at the declaration of Todd Filsinger in 19 support of the debtors' motion, the declaration of Douglas 20 Frisky in support of the debtors' motion, and -- 21 Q Maybe you could summarize -- 22 A -- and I looked over various scorecards for Luminant, 23 TXU, and business services from 2009 through 2013. 24 Q Okay. 25 A The SEC reports, 10-Ks. 212-267-6868 I looked at the EFH Go ahead. Anything else? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 52 of 205 Page 52 1 Q Okay. If you'd just look at the top of page 3 just to 2 refresh your recollection, did you look the those documents 3 of paragraph 4? 4 A 5 -- obviously look at table 1-4 and 1-3. 6 Q And that had what kind of information? 7 A That had the actual (indiscernible - 11:12:14) June 8 results for the second half of the year and actually had the 9 insider metric performance levels. Oh, correct. With the Filsinger declaration I did look 10 Q Okay. 11 A That's it. 12 Q Okay. 13 make sure your answer was. 14 Is that it? I'm sorry, I'm not finished yet, I just want to Okay. Mr. Panacio, were you in court last Wednesday when 15 Mr. McFarland testified? 16 A Mr. McFarland, yeah, I was. 17 Q Okay. 18 hedging gains -- or gains from -- hedging gains for the 19 years 2012 and 2013? 20 on that? 21 A I do recall that. 22 Q Okay. 23 gave? 24 A 25 it was somewhere in the neighborhood of like 1.8 billion, Do you recall him testifying to the amount of Do you recall he gave some testimony Do you recall in particular what numbers he Again, just based on memory, I believe in the year 2012 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 53 of 205 Page 53 1 and in 2013 I guess -- I think it was close to a billion 2 dollars. 3 Q 4 debtors' public filings that would refer to gains made in 5 connection with hedging? 6 A The only document I noticed that was in the 10-K -- 7 Q Okay. 8 A -- 2013. 9 Q Okay. Okay. 10 11 Now do you recall seeing anything in any of the MS. SARKESSIAN: And, Your Honor, I would like to provide copies of that to the Court and the witness, please. 12 THE COURT: 13 Okay. (Pause) 14 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 15 Q 16 as Exhibit 37, is -- could you identify this document, 17 please. 18 A 19 Holdings Company LLC. 20 Q 21 previously? 22 A Yes, previously. 23 Q Okay. 24 there's no objection I would like to call the witness's 25 attention to particular pages so he doesn't have to rifle So the document that I've handed you, which I've marked This is the form 10-K for Energy Future Competitive Okay. 212-267-6868 And do you recall seeing this document Because this is such a large document and if VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 54 of 205 Page 54 1 through. 2 THE COURT: 3 MR. MCKANE: 4 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 5 Q THE COURT: By either of us. I apologize. (Laughter) 8 9 No objection. Now, I'd first like to call your attention -- 6 7 No objection. MR. MCKANE: You stole my line. BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 10 Q I'd first I call your attention -- I would like to 11 first call your attention to page 159 -- it's 159 of 325 it 12 says in the upper right corner. 13 A Okay. 14 Q Just give everybody a minute to get there. 15 I got it. And is there any information -- well first of all 16 what are we -- what are we looking at on this page? 17 A We are looking at the income statement. 18 Q Okay. 19 A For Energy Future Competitive Holdings Company LLC. 20 Q Okay. 21 relates to gains or losses from hedging activity? 22 A 23 hedging and trading activities. 24 Q Okay. 25 A A loss of $54 million. So is there any information on this page that The third line item net gain loss from commodity 212-267-6868 And what number does it have for 2013? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 55 of 205 Page 55 1 Q Okay. 2 A A gain -- or a net gain of $389 million. 3 Q Okay. 4 that Mr. McFarland testified to, right? 5 A Yes. 6 Q Okay. 7 page, which in the upper right-hand corner says page 93 of 8 325. 9 So these numbers are different than the ones And I'd like to call your attention to another THE COURT: 10 11 And what number does it have for 2012? I'm sorry, what number? MS. SARKESSIAN: Ninety-three of 325 in the upper right corner. 12 THE WITNESS: Okay. 13 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 14 Q 15 relates to hedging? 16 A 17 sentence, "Natural gas positions have resulted in the 18 reported gains losses as follows." 19 Q 20 you're looking at the little chart in the middle of the 21 page, right? 22 A Correct, I'm looking at the little chart, right. 23 Q So then the line that says net realized gains, what 24 does that show for 2013/2012? 25 Q Okay. And is there any information on this page that I guess about the middle of the page there's a Okay. And then where it says net -- the first -- 2013 is 998 million, and 2012 is $1.8 billion. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 56 of 205 Page 56 1 Q So that's similar to the numbers Mr. McFarland 2 testified to, right? 3 A Yes. 4 Q Okay. 5 that show? 6 A 7 reversals of previously recorded amounts related to position 8 (indiscernible - 11:17:27). 9 Q And then below that what's the next line below It showed the unrealized net losses, including And those are various negative numbers in the billions, 10 correct? 11 A 12 right. 13 Q 14 those two lines, correct? 15 A Correct. 16 Q And what does that show for 2013/2012? 17 A 2013 has a loss of 35 million. 18 Q And how about 2012? 19 A 2012 is a $293 million net gain. 20 Q Okay. Yeah, they're -- right, they're offsetting the losses, And then when you -- the third line is the total of 21 MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, I would just ask the 22 Court's preference as to moving in my -- I have a few 23 exhibits that have not been moved into evidence. 24 to do that now or after they finish their cross-examination? 25 THE COURT: 212-267-6868 Do we want Let's -- well let's see if we can move VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 57 of 205 Page 57 1 them in now. 2 MS. SARKESSIAN: 3 THE COURT: All right. And if there are any issues we can 4 identify them and we may wait for cross to see if they're 5 resolved. 6 MS. SARKESSIAN: Okay. So first I would like to 7 move in the Exhibit 36, which is the corrected charts that 8 were previously attached to Mr. Panacio's declaration as 9 Exhibit D. 10 MR. MCKANE: 11 THE COURT: 12 13 All right. It's admitted without objection. (Trial Exhibit No. 36 was admitted) 14 15 We have no objection to 36. MR. MCKANE: And just for the purposes of the record we'd ask that the file copy be redacted for 36. 16 THE COURT: Yes, of course. 17 MR. MCKANE: 18 MS. SARKESSIAN: Thank you, Your Honor. The next exhibit I have is -- 19 well Trial Exhibit 34, which was Exhibit C to Mr. Panacio's 20 declaration. 21 admitted into evidence, correct? My understanding that it's already been That's the peer company -- 22 THE COURT: 23 MS. SARKESSIAN: 24 And then I would move for admission of Trial 25 Yes. -- right? Okay. Exhibit 28, which was Exhibit D to Mr. Panacio's 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 58 of 205 Page 58 1 declaration. 2 MR. MCKANE: 3 THE COURT: 4 No objection. Okay. (Trial Exhibit No. 28 was admitted) 5 MS. SARKESSIAN: And finally I would move for 6 admission of the 10-K of Energy Future Competitive Holding 7 Company LLC. 8 THE COURT: 9 MR. MCKANE: 10 THE COURT: 11 37. 37, no objection. All right. (Trial Exhibit No. 37 was admitted) 12 MS. SARKESSIAN: 13 THE COURT: 14 Thank you, Your Honor. You're welcome. (Pause) 15 MR. MCKANE: 16 THE COURT: 17 MR. MCKANE: May I proceed, Your Honor? Yes. For the record, Mark McKane of 18 Kirkland & Ellis on behalf of the debtors. 19 CROSS-EXAMINATION 20 BY MR. MCKANE: 21 Q Good morning, Mr. Panacio. 22 A Good morning, Mr. McKane. 23 Q Now, sir, you've worked at the UST -- the United States 24 Trustee's Office for about 14 years, correct? 25 A Correct. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 59 of 205 Page 59 1 Q And you've been an auditor in that capacity during that 2 time? 3 A I have. 4 Q And you've been an accountant for over 30 years? 5 A Correct. 6 Q And in your 30 years of experience as an accountant you 7 have not designed any compensation plans, have you? 8 A I have not. 9 Q And you've not worked in the energy industry before? 10 A I have not. 11 Q And you've never been involved in the budgeting process 12 of a power company, correct? 13 A I have not. 14 Q Okay. 15 incentive compensation plans, have you? 16 A I have not. 17 Q And you did not review the 2014 budget for EFH, 18 Luminant, or TXU Energy in preparing to testify today? 19 A I have not. 20 Q And, sir, you do not consider yourself an energy or 21 power expert do you? 22 A I'm not an expert, no. 23 Q And you don't consider yourself an expert in executive 24 compensation packages either do you? 25 A And you have not chosen metrics to use with Right, correct. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 60 of 205 Page 60 1 Q And, sir, in your role as an accountant you've read the 2 entire Filsinger declaration, right? 3 A Excuse me. 4 Q And, sir, 5 declaration that you found incorrect? 6 Yes. is there anything in the Filsinger MS. SARKESSIAN: 7 an expert in the area. 8 BY MR. MCKANE: 9 Q Objection, Your Honor, he's not Well, sir, let me just ask you another way. 10 Is there anything in the Filsinger declaration 11 report that you found incorrect as an accountant? 12 A No. 13 Q Okay. 14 that you did, specifically regarding an evaluation of the 15 metrics in relation to a five-year historical average, okay? 16 A Okay. 17 Q All right. 18 conclusions as to whether the debtors' metrics are 19 incentivizing are you? 20 A I am not. 21 Q All you're doing is trying to present data for others 22 to make that conclusion, correct? 23 A That is correct. 24 Q And, sir, the average of the historical numbers you 25 compared them, you took that five-year historical average 212-267-6868 Sir, let's turn to the first set of analysis Sir, you're not providing any opinions or VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 61 of 205 Page 61 1 and did a comparison to this year's metrics, correct? 2 A That is correct. 3 Q And you just took a standard average, correct? 4 A That's correct. 5 Q And then in comparing the five-year average to the 6 actuals you only looked to see if the metric was above or 7 below the actuals, correct? 8 A That is correct. 9 Q In essence you prepared a variance report, right? 10 A That's correct. 11 Q And to perform the analysis that you did you didn't 12 actually need to understand any of the underlying analysis 13 that led up to those metrics, correct? 14 MS. SARKESSIAN: 15 THE COURT: 16 MS. SARKESSIAN: 17 Objection. Basis? I think the question is confusing. 18 THE COURT: 19 question, Mr. Panacio? 20 THE WITNESS: Well, I don't -- do you understand the Sorry, can you repeat the question 21 one more time? 22 BY MR. MCKANE: 23 Q Sure. 24 A Right. 25 Q -- right, you understand that they were set by 212-267-6868 The metrics -- VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 62 of 205 Page 62 1 professionals at EFH, right? 2 A That is correct, right. 3 Q And you understand that there was a considerable 4 process that led up to the decision to make one metric a 5 threshold, the actual numbers within the metrics, you 6 understand that? 7 8 MS. SARKESSIAN: Objection, it's outside of this witness' knowledge. 9 THE COURT: 10 MR. MCKANE: Where are you trying to go with that? Sir, I just want to establish to do 11 the analysis that he did it's absolutely wholly independent 12 of this company or this process. 13 couple different ways. 14 15 THE COURT: Well why don't you just -- all right, I see where you're headed. 16 MR. MCKANE: 17 THE COURT: 18 I can -- I can do this a Well, actually -Try to phrase it precisely, if you could. 19 MR. MCKANE: Sure. 20 BY MR. MCKANE: 21 Q 22 understand the underlying performance of the company, 23 correct? 24 A That's correct. 25 Q And you didn't need to understand how market conditions To do the variance analysis you did you didn't need to 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 63 of 205 Page 63 1 for this company may have changed over the years, correct? 2 MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, I'm still going to 3 object to the form of question as to what he needed to 4 understand. I think it's confusing. 5 THE COURT: 6 MS. SARKESSIAN: 7 10 He could ask what he took into account and what he didn't take into account perhaps. 8 9 I don't -- THE COURT: Yeah, I don't like the use of the words understand, I think it's a way to -- or a loaded word, so. 11 MR. MCKANE: I'll rephrase. 12 BY MR. MCKANE: 13 Q 14 account for any changes in market conditions over time, 15 correct? 16 A Correct. 17 Q And to perform the averaging you did it was wholly 18 independent of the type of company EFH is, right? To perform the analysis that you did you did not 19 MS. SARKESSIAN: 20 THE COURT: 21 THE WITNESS: Objection to form. Overruled. Well, I strictly used the data on 22 the particular scorecards, right. 23 BY MR. MCKANE: 24 Q 25 of the company or the industry that EFH is in, right? Right. 212-267-6868 And so the analysis that you did is independent VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 64 of 205 Page 64 1 A Correct. 2 Q Now, sir, in performing that analysis you did not take 3 into account any impact on any of the numbers from the 4 company's hedging program; is that right? 5 A That is correct. 6 Q And you did not consider the impact of the hedging 7 program on a number like EBIDTA because you did not know 8 what that impact was, right? 9 A I did not know specific details of the impact, correct. 10 Q Right. 11 United States Trustee's Office you know that the United 12 States Trustee's Office gets involved in bankruptcies even 13 before the bankruptcy filing occurs, correct? 14 A Correct. 15 Q And you understand that representatives from the United 16 States Trustee's Office was in court on the first day for 17 the first day hearing? 18 A Right. 19 Q And -- 20 21 MR. MCKANE: 24 25 Your Honor, I request to approach and mark an exhibit. 22 23 Now, sir, based on your experience at the THE COURT: All right. identification purposes. We'll mark this 38 for Thanks. (Trial Exhibit No. 38 was marked) BY MR. MCKANE: 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 65 of 205 Page 65 1 Q Mr. Panacio -- Panacio, I apologize. 2 marked for identification purposes as Exhibit 38 was the 3 first day presentation by Mr. Sassower. 4 mark because there's no pages -- 5 A Okay. 6 Q -- no page numbers, excuse me -- because there's no 7 page numbers I've put a flag on the page that I'd like to 8 cover. 9 A Okay. 10 Q Do you see it, sir? 11 A I do. 12 Q It's the -- it's a slide from Mr. Sassower's 13 presentation that discusses how the company used a long-term 14 hedging program to stabilize cash flows and minimize 15 downside risks from natural gas prices. 16 sir? 17 A I see that. 18 Q And, sir, do you see the cash flows from hedging 19 activities that are identified on that page, sir? 20 A I do. 21 Q And, sir, the amounts presented for 2011, '12, and '13, 22 do you recognize those, sir? 23 A I do. 24 Q And, sir, those -- you were here for Mr. McFarland's 25 testimony? 212-267-6868 What has been I'd ask that you Do you see that, VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 66 of 205 Page 66 1 A Yes. 2 Q Are those the numbers for '11, '12, and '13 consistent 3 with Mr. McFarland's testimony? 4 THE COURT: 5 THE WITNESS: If you know. The year 2012 I recognize that -- 6 2011 is it slightly off a bit, but it's in the ballpark, 7 right. 8 BY MR. MCKANE: 9 Q It's in the ballpark. 10 A Right. 11 Q And, sir, did anyone from the United States Trustee's 12 Office provide you with Mr. Sassower's presentation for your 13 consideration in preparing to testify today? 14 A No. 15 Q Sir, you referred to the 10-K for EFCH in your 16 testifying -- when discussing the hedging program; do you 17 recall that, sir? 18 A Yes. 19 Q And in particular I believe you focused part of your 20 testimony on page the 93. 21 A Okay. 22 THE COURT: 23 MR. MCKANE: Where are we? It's page 93, Your Honor, of 24 Exhibit 37, it is the multi 100-page document that is the 25 2013 10-K. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 67 of 205 Page 67 1 2 THE COURT: All right. It was previously -- okay, I'm here. 3 MR. MCKANE: 4 THE COURT: All right. I'm there. 5 BY MR. MCKANE: 6 Q 7 that -- one of the pages that I believe was covered in his 8 direct examination. And, sir, if we could go to page 93, which is the page 9 THE COURT: Got it. 10 BY MR. MCKANE: 11 Q Are you with me, sir? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Sir, from an accounting perspective do you understand 14 there's a difference between mark to market accounting and 15 accounting for realized and unrealized gains? 16 A In general terms I'm familiar with those terms. 17 Q In general terms. 18 A Yes. 19 Q So do you know whether EFH presents mark to market 20 accounting in its 10-K or whether it presents it as realized 21 and unrealized gains? 22 A 23 gains -- realized and unrealized gains. 24 Q 25 accounting in the analyze of its cash flows would that It was my -- it was my understanding it was realized And sir, you've marked -- as represented mark to market 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 68 of 205 Page 68 1 account for the difference between the presentation in the 2 SEC program and Mr. Sassower's presentation? 3 A I believe it would, yeah. 4 Q Sir, I was going to ask you about Exhibit B to your 5 declaration, but though I think the best document to use is 6 the modified version of that that is Exhibit 36. 7 A Okay. 8 Q Can you get that, sir? 9 A Okay. 10 Q And, sir, I'd like to ask you some questions about the 11 first page of that document, specifically regarding Luminant 12 Cap X. 13 A Got it. 14 Q All right. 15 let me just confirm for the record. 16 earlier version of your Exhibit B, correct? 17 A Right. 18 Q Right. 19 the Luminant Cap X that's reflected in the average, correct? 20 A There was. 21 Q And it was revised up to exhibit -- to the 685 number 22 that's represented in Exhibit 36, correct? 23 A Correct. 24 Q All right. 25 actuals, sir -- 212-267-6868 Are you with me, sir? Now, in the -- in the -- in Exhibit 36 -Exhibit 26 is the And Exhibit 26 there is a different number for Now the NA that was presented in the 2009 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 69 of 205 Page 69 1 A Right. 2 Q -- right. 3 your analysis, correct? 4 A I did. 5 Q But the underlying documentation did not present it as 6 a zero; is that right? 7 A Right. 8 Q Right. 9 is Exhibit 3? 10 Originally you had that as a zero number in And, sir, can we go to the documentation? MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, objection based on 11 relevance. 12 testified the number was wrong and he corrected it. 13 14 We've already -- the witness has already THE COURT: it. That Well, he's allowed to cross-examine on Exhibit 3? 15 MR. MCKANE: It's Exhibit 3, Your Honor. It's 16 almost -- it's near the end of the documents. 17 the second to last page, it says on the top 2009 Luminant 18 funding scorecard. 19 THE COURT: In fact it's Okay. 20 BY MR. MCKANE: 21 Q Sir, you are me? 22 A Yes, I am. 23 Q And let me direct you attention to the last performance 24 metric, the one that says, "Luminant management EBIDTA less 25 Cap X, for Oak Grove and Sandel." 212-267-6868 You see that, sir? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 70 of 205 Page 70 1 A I see that. 2 Q Is it the 443 that's reflected -- sorry, excuse me. 3 it the 410 that's reflected in the 2009 actuals as a 4 negative number that originally -- that caused this 5 confusion? 6 A Yes, it was. 7 Q Now, sir, this negative number is a difference between 8 two numbers, correct? 9 Is Let me ask it another way. The metric -- is Luminant management EBIDTA less 10 Cap X. 11 A Right. 12 Q Right? 13 A Right. 14 Q Now, sir, you know that there's a problem when you see 15 a negative number in a capital expenditure, right? 16 A Of course, right. 17 Q Right. 18 A Right. 19 Q Does looking at the underlying data here indicate to 20 you that in 2009 Luminant had positive Cap X but yet that 21 number was greater than the amount of management EBIDTA for 22 Oak Grove and Sandel? 23 A That's right. 24 Q Now, sir, did you ask anyone at the company to clarify 25 this issue for you? 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 71 of 205 Page 71 1 A I did not. 2 Q And, sir, did you look to any secondary sources to 3 determine whether -- what the Cap X number would have been 4 for 2009 for Luminant? 5 A I did not. 6 Q Sir, in the 2009 10-K for EFCH would you expect Cap X 7 to be a line item in the financial statements? 8 A Sure. 9 10 MR. MCKANE: Your Honor, may I approach to mark another exhibit? 11 THE COURT: 12 Yes, I'm sorry. (Trial Exhibit No. 39 was marked) 13 THE COURT: This is marked 39 for identification. 14 BY MR. MCKANE: 15 Q 16 page document. 17 A Okay. 18 Q And for the record, sir, do you recognize Exhibit 39 as 19 the form 10-K for Energy Future Holding that was filed with 20 the SEC for the year 2009? 21 A Yes. 22 Q And it's page again for the record 200. And, Mr. Panacio, I recognize again it's a multi 100Could I direct you attention to page 200? 23 THE COURT: 24 MR. MCKANE: 25 Here. Did you mark it for her? I did put a tab on it. I didn't? I thought we had tabs for everyone. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 72 of 205 Page 72 1 THE COURT: It's about half through. 2 MR. MCKANE: 3 THE COURT: 4 MR. MCKANE: Yes. Almost exactly. Okay. 5 BY MR. MCKANE: 6 Q Mr. Panacio, you have a tab on yours? 7 A I do. 8 Q Sir, do you see the line items on page 200 of the 2009 9 10-Ks for EFCH that reflects capital expenditures? 10 A I do. 11 Q And, sir, do you see the specific line item as it 12 relates to I believe competitor electric capital 13 expenditures? 14 A I do. 15 Q Sir, what do you understand that line item to be? 16 A It's about $1.3 billion. 17 Q $1.3 billion. 18 capital expenditure compare to the other Cap X years that 19 you used in Exhibit 36 of your chart? 20 A 21 figures. 22 Q 23 correct? 24 A Right. 25 Q And, sir, do you know in 2009 whether EFH was And, sir, how does that $1.3 billion of Well in the following years it was the declining Cap X Right. 212-267-6868 And 1.3 is almost two times any other year, VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 73 of 205 Page 73 1 completing the construction of two power plants? 2 A I do not recall that, no. 3 Q And, sir, would the inclusion of 1.3 actually skew the 4 numbers considerably higher for Cap X? 5 A It would. 6 Q All right. 7 time event that you might try to exclude from a five-year 8 average? 9 A I certainly would footnote it, yes. 10 Q And, sir, to be precise in your -- going back to 36, 11 your average once you do the bid four-year average? 12 A Yes, I got it. 13 Q Okay. 14 use the 685 average for the four years it altered your 15 conclusion as to the relationship between the historical 16 average and the metrics for 2014? 17 A It did. 18 Q And in fact it went from being below the metrics to 19 above all of the metrics? 20 A Above it, right. 21 Q Now, Mr. Panacio, you took a separate approach where 22 you took the half year results and multiplied them by two, 23 correct? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Now if I refer to the half year forecast, if I use that 212-267-6868 And is that kind of a one -- a type of one- Am I correct that when you made the revision to VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 74 of 205 Page 74 1 term would you understand what I mean? 2 A Yes. 3 Q All right. 4 that half year forecast was an appropriate means by which to 5 evaluate Luminant EBIDTA? 6 A 7 first half of the year applying to the second half of the 8 year. 9 Q And, sir, is it your belief that applying I took the approach considering all things equal of the Okay. And you thought that was an appropriate means by 10 which to evaluate Luminant EBIDTA? 11 A 12 considered from 2009 to 2013 for EBIDTA. 13 would stay consistent, right, for the second half of this 14 year, right. 15 Q 16 would remain the same you thought it was appropriate? 17 A It was certainly my viewpoint doing this exercise, yes. 18 Q Okay. 19 this exercise for TXU Energy's EBIDTA, correct? 20 A Yes. 21 Q And you understand, sir, that the debtors don't take 22 this type pro rata approach in performing its own budgeting, 23 right? I was taking the viewpoint all the variables were Right. 24 25 Those variables And based on that assumption that the variables And you took that same approach in performing MS. SARKESSIAN: Objection, it's outside of the witness's knowledge. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 75 of 205 Page 75 1 THE COURT: 2 THE WITNESS: Well he's been here. Overruled. I'm (indiscernible - 11:39:10) 3 specifically to methodologies, but understand, yes. 4 BY MR. MCKANE: 5 Q I'm sorry, can you -- 6 A Can you repeat the question, again? 7 Q Sure. 8 do not employ the same approach of making a pro rata 9 projection off of a portion of the year? Sir, is it your understanding that the debtors 10 A Right. 11 Q Sir, in performing this half year forecast you did not 12 take into consideration -- or let me -- I'll say it again. 13 You did not account for any changes in market conditions 14 over the course of the year, correct? 15 A Correct. 16 Q And, sir, you understand that the debtors' EBIDTA is 17 impacted by power prices, right? 18 A Correct. 19 Q And you did not account for current power prices in 20 this half year forecast, right? 21 A In this half -- right, correct. 22 Q And you understand, sir, that the debtors' EBIDTA is 23 impacted by current costs, right? 24 A Yes. 25 Q And you did not account for current fuel or emission or 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 76 of 205 Page 76 1 other variable costs changes in doing this forecast; is that 2 right? 3 A Yes. 4 Q And, sir, you agree with me that limited -- for limited 5 to generate earnings it has to generate revenue, right? 6 A Sure. 7 Q And to generate revenue it has to sell power, right? 8 A Correct. 9 Q And to sell power it has to produce power, right? 10 A Right. 11 Q And you agree with me that if seasonality impacts 12 limited's ability to sell power it impacts its ability to 13 generate EBIDTA, right? 14 A Right. 15 Q And, sir, you don't know whether Luminant and TXU 16 Energy project the same amount of income for each quarter do 17 you? 18 A No. 19 Q And a half year forecast does not account for any 20 seasonality in Luminant's or TXU Energy's business, correct? 21 A They do not. 22 Q And, sir, I believe you covered this, but EBIDTA is the 23 highest weighted target -- excuse me. 24 weighted metric for Luminant, correct? 25 A Not specifically each quarter, no. EBIDTA is the highest Correct. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 77 of 205 Page 77 1 Q And EBIDTA is the highest weighted metric to TXU 2 Energy, correct? 3 A Correct. 4 Q And based on your half year forecast you concluded that 5 the forecasted results for 2014 would be higher than 6 superior for competitive EBIDTA, right? 7 A You mean (indiscernible - 11:41:24) or -- 8 Q No, so let me go to the third page of Exhibit 36. 9 help you, sir. I'll I apologize. 10 A Okay. 11 Q Are you with me? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Now the first line item on the third page refers to EFH 14 management/competitive EBIDTA, right? 15 A Right. 16 Q And, sir, you understand that that line item for 17 competitive EBIDTA is the sum of the Luminant and the TXU 18 Energy EBIDTA, right? 19 A Right. 20 Q And, sir, you saw that in the far right-hand column 21 based on your projection of the half year results you 22 believed that had they would exceed superior -- the superior 23 target. 24 A Yes, I do. 25 Q And -- and you believe, sir, then unless there's any 212-267-6868 Do you see that, sir? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 78 of 205 Page 78 1 type of unforeseen event it would be appropriate to use a 2 half year forecast to project out a full year's expected 3 results, right? 4 A 5 yeah, I projected it out, for the second half of the year as 6 well. 7 Q 8 unforeseen or one-time event, correct? 9 A Correct. 10 Q And so those are two different things. 11 a one-time event or an unforeseen event. 12 A Correct. 13 Q And if you had one of those events you would back that 14 out from your analysis, correct? 15 A I would. 16 Q Now, sir, at the time you prepared this analysis you 17 did not know whether in the first half of 2014 there was a 18 significant one-time event that impacted competitive EBIDTA, 19 correct? 20 A Correct. 21 Q And, sir, you did not investigate whether there was, 22 you know, any such one-time event, correct? 23 A Correct. 24 Q And you didn't ask anyone at the company whether there 25 were any such one-time events? All things being equal in the first half of the year, Right. 212-267-6868 But one thing you might exclude for is a VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com You could have 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 79 of 205 Page 79 1 A I did not. 2 Q Now, sir, for example, you did not in this analysis of 3 the half year account for any scheduled outages for -- at 4 Comanche Peak, the nuclear power plant that are scheduled 5 for the fourth quarter of the year; is that right? 6 A I -- right, correct. 7 Q And that would be a one-time event, right? 8 A Right. 9 Q And at the time you prepared the analysis you weren't 10 aware whether bankruptcy was an event of default under 11 certain hedging agreements, right? 12 A Correct. 13 Q And, Mr. Panacio, you were here and you heard 14 Mr. McFarland testify that the cancellation of the hedging 15 from the bankruptcy filing caused a one-time realized event 16 of over 400 million in revenue, right? 17 A Right, correct, heard that. 18 Q And, sir, by doubling the -- that one-time event of 19 400 million in EBIDTA happened in the first half of the 20 year, right? 21 A Right. 22 Q And, sir, by doubling the first six months of the 23 year's EBIDTA you doubled the impact of that event, correct? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Actually if we could go back to Exhibit 36, that third 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 80 of 205 Page 80 1 page again. 2 A Okay. 3 Q You see where you projected exceeds superior's, sir? 4 A The first line, yes. 5 Q Yeah. 6 A I won't. 7 Q -- do you recognize was it the projections you have for 8 the year are? 9 A Yes. 10 Q All right. 11 A Right. 12 Q And the baseline and the superior? 13 A Right. 14 Q Sir, if you removed $462 million from the calculation 15 because it was a one-time event that occurred due to the 16 bankruptcy filing what impact would that have on whether 17 your projected forecast is above or below the threshold 18 level? 19 A Using 462- it would be below. 20 Q So in other words it would change your conclusion from 21 having the projected forecast exceed superior to be reduced 22 down, so that would be below threshold? 23 A Right, (indiscernible - 11:45:12) but it would be. 24 Q And I don't want to say the exact amount because I -- 25 A I don't want to. 212-267-6868 Without saying the amount -- And you see the threshold levels, right? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 81 of 205 Page 81 1 Q Thank you, sir. 2 And so you agree, sir, that major unanticipated 3 events can have a direct impact on EBIDTA? 4 A Sure, yes. 5 Q Okay. Sir, let's talk for a minute about power prices. 6 Sir, based on your review of the Filsinger report 7 and being in the court you understand that power prices can 8 vary, right? 9 A I understand. 10 Q And, Mr. Panacio, based on your review of the Filsinger 11 report did you see that power prices in a 60-day span from 12 the end of May to the -- to nearly the end of July dropped 13 by $10? 14 A I did see that. 15 Q You did see that. 16 from $43 down to $33, right? 17 A Right. 18 Q And that was a drop of nearly 25 percent? 19 A Right. 20 Q And, sir, you didn't incorporate what impact a decline 21 of that magnitude in power prices would have on EBIDTA did 22 you? 23 A I did not. 24 Q And, sir, your analysis also didn't incorporate any 25 related shifts in gas prices did you? 212-267-6868 And so that drop of $10 was a drop VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 82 of 205 Page 82 1 A It did not. 2 Q And, for example, from your review of Mr. Filsinger's 3 record you saw that there was an equivalent $6 change in gas 4 prices during that same time period, right? 5 A Right. 6 Q And you did not account for what impact that $6 change 7 in gas prices would have on EBIDTA for Luminant or TXU 8 Energy, correct? 9 A Correct. 10 Q And, sir, you also did not account for any changes in 11 heat rates during the first half of the year, right? 12 A I did not. 13 Q Now, sir, by performing this analysis you're not 14 suggesting in any way that you're in a better position than 15 the professionals at EFH to develop a full year forecast are 16 you? 17 A I am not. 18 Q And, sir, you don't have any reason to believe that the 19 EFH management team did not exercise their sound business 20 judgment in developing the company's 2014 forecast are you? 21 A I am not. 22 Q Mr. Panacio, if we could I'd like to turn to the next 23 part of you testimony, which I believe related to Exhibit D 24 of your declaration, which is Exhibit 28. 25 A Okay, I'm there. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 83 of 205 Page 83 1 Q 2 All right. (Pause) 3 THE COURT: 4 MR. MCKANE: 5 THE COURT: Oh, I'm sorry -May I proceed? -- are you waiting for me? 6 Thank you. 7 BY MR. MCKANE: 8 Q 9 loss was for years 2009 through 2013, correct? I'm good. I apologize. Now, sir, in Exhibit 28 you presented what EFH's net 10 A Correct. 11 Q In fact it had a net income in 2009 and then had net 12 losses in the subsequent years, correct? 13 A (Indiscernible - 11:48:42) years, right. 14 Q Okay. 15 analysis you went back to see whether those companies had 16 net losses as well, right? 17 A Right. 18 Q And you extracted this information from your reviews of 19 EFH's SEC filings, correct? 20 A Correct. 21 Q In your analysis of those filings did you come to any 22 conclusion as to why EFH had a net loss in 2010 through 23 2013? 24 A 25 main driving factor is their debt service. And, sir, when you developed your peer company Well obviously for various reasons, but I guess the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 84 of 205 Page 84 1 Q The main driving -- I'm sorry -- 2 A The main driving factor for net loss is due to their 3 debt service. 4 Q 5 EBIDTA or net income/loss is a better metric to use for 6 incentive compensation have you? 7 A I have -- I have not. 8 Q And, sir, in developing your analysis you didn't review 9 the peer group's compensation programs did you? And, sir, you haven't rendered an opinion as to whether 10 A I did not. 11 Q And you didn't perform any analysis of the incentive 12 programs to that peer group, right? 13 A For those peer groups, no. 14 Q And you didn't independently review what compensation 15 programs those companies may or may not have, right? 16 A Right. 17 Q So you don't know, for example, what the specific 18 metrics are that are used by any one of the 13 companies 19 that you evaluated? 20 A That's correct. 21 Q So to the extent, sir, that you were drawing any 22 conclusions under what circumstances incentive compensation 23 might be paid at those peer companies you weren't looking at 24 the underlying programs themselves, right? 25 A I was not -- right, correct. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 85 of 205 Page 85 1 Q And, sir, do you know any reason why EFH if it wanted 2 to could not have used a net income metric with a negative 3 number to incentivize its management team? 4 MS. SARKESSIAN: 5 THE WITNESS: 6 question, sir. 7 BY MR. MCKANE: 8 Q 9 there's a net loss -- I'm sorry -- I'm sorry, I don't understand the Let's say it another way. So you identified that 10 A Right. 11 Q -- right? 12 there's net income in some of the peer companies but every 13 once in a while there's a net loss as well, right? 14 A Right. 15 Q But you don't know even evaluating that amount how that 16 squares with any of the company's compensation programs, 17 right? 18 A Right. 19 Q So to the extent that there's a net income or net loss 20 metric you don't know whether that's a positive or negative 21 number, right? 22 A Right. 23 Q Now, sir, you testified that only 20 percent of energy 24 companies use EBIDTA in incentive compensation; do you 25 recall that? 212-267-6868 And there's -- and there's sometimes -- VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 86 of 205 Page 86 1 A Yes. 2 Q All right. 3 study of energy companies that you performed, right? 4 A Correct. 5 Q That's based on a review of a slide -- of a summary of 6 Towers Watson's work? 7 A Yes. 8 Q All right. 9 page 61. Now that conclusion is not based on any Let's go to that. 10 THE COURT: 11 MR. MCKANE: 12 THE WITNESS: That's Exhibit 5, Go ahead. Thank you, Your Honor. Okay. 13 BY MR. MCKANE: 14 Q 15 August presentation in preparing your declaration and 16 preparing to testify today, right? 17 A Yes. 18 Q And this slide summarizes a recent Towers Watson study, 19 right? 20 A Right. 21 Q And Towers Watson found that a majority of companies in 22 the energy industry used earnings-based goals in their 23 annual or long-term incentive plans, right? 24 A Right. 25 Q And you don't have any reason to doubt the accuracy of And, sir, you reviewed this slide, slide 61 of the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 87 of 205 Page 87 1 that conclusion do you? 2 A No. 3 Q All right. 4 that 20 percent of the companies use EBIDTA, right? 5 A Right. 6 Q And, sir, it's not that 80 percent of the companies use 7 net income; is that right? 8 A Right. 9 Q Only 32 percent use net income in 2013, correct? 10 A Right. 11 Q And sir, just stepping back for a second, you -- just 12 from the basics -- you agree with me that EBIDTA excludes 13 interest expense, right? 14 A Yes. 15 Q But net loss does not? 16 A Right. 17 Q And in preparing Exhibit C to your declaration, which 18 is Exhibit 27, you concluded -- yeah, let's take it out for 19 a second. 20 A Okay, I'm there. 21 Q All right. 22 Yes. Exhibit 27. (Pause) 23 24 And in fact you used this slide to know MR. MCKANE: Apologize, Your Honor, one moment. (Pause) 25 MR. MCKANE: 212-267-6868 All right, why don't we do it this VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 88 of 205 Page 88 1 way. 2 BY MR. MCKANE: 3 Q So, sir, Exhibit 34, let's go there. 4 A 34. 5 Q It's the end of the binder. 6 A Okay. 7 Q All right. 8 9 Exhibit 34 is -- THE COURT: I'm sorry, I need to -- can you give me just a moment. 10 MR. MCKANE: 11 THE COURT: 12 Do you need to go off the record? No, I -- yes. Yes, we need to -- I'm sorry, need to take a short recess. 13 MR. MCKANE: 14 Of course. (Recess at 11:54 a.m.) 15 THE CLERK: All rise. 16 THE COURT: Please be seated. 17 34. Thank you. Sorry. I'm back. 18 MR. MCKANE: For the record Mark McKane of 19 Kirkland & Ellis on behalf of the debtors. 20 CROSS-EXAMINATION (Resumed) 21 BY MR. MCKANE: 22 Q 23 looking at the same time at Exhibits 27 and 34. 24 A Right. 25 Q Right. Mr. Panacio, we were at -- before we broke we were 212-267-6868 And, sir, Exhibit 34 is just a collective VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 89 of 205 Page 89 1 version of 27; is that right? 2 A 3 EFH. 4 Q 5 iteration of the same -- for the same -- 6 A Correct. 7 Q That's correct? 8 A Right. 9 Q And the corrections are primarily to account for I have Exhibit 34 as the comparable companies versus Yes, sir, and I believe Exhibit 27 is the earlier 10 rounding errors and one set of transposed numbers? 11 A Right. 12 Q So let's look at 34. 13 the Court, Mr. Panacio, you include columns for operating 14 revenue, net income or loss, and long-term debt, right? 15 A Right. 16 Q And you did so because you wanted to present the 17 ability to service long-term debt, right? 18 A Right. One of the reasons, right. 19 Q Right? But in evaluating long-term debt it's also 20 appropriate to evaluate what interest expense you have on 21 that long-term debt, right? 22 A That's correct. 23 Q And, sir, EFH in 2011 had interest expense of 24 approximately $4.3 billion, right? 25 A Now in preparing Exhibit 34 for Right. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 90 of 205 Page 90 1 Q And EFH in 2012 had interest expense of approximately 2 $3.5 billion, right? 3 A Right. 4 Q And in 2013 it had interest expense of $2.7 billion, 5 right? 6 A Right. 7 Q And in preparing Exhibit 34 you looked at the 13 peer 8 companies that you could find information for and evaluated 9 their income statements as reflected in their 10-Ks, 10 correct? 11 A Yes. 12 Q And you looked at their operating revenues and their 13 net income and their long-term debt, and the interest 14 expense was also available there as well, correct? 15 A Yes. 16 Q All right. 17 based on your review of the Ameron 10-K am I correct that 18 Ameron's interest expense was less than EFH's by over 19 $2 billion? 20 A 21 statement, but I do recall it, yeah. 22 Q 23 the trees, but if you need to I can refresh your 24 recollection of any of the 10-Ks. 25 A Let's start with Ameron for a minute. Sir, Do you recall that? Well actually -- actually not seeing the actual income All right. And, sir, you know, it's unfortunate for That's fine. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 91 of 205 Page 91 1 Q All right. 2 THE COURT: 3 The trees are already gone. (Laughter) 4 MR. MCKANE: It's true. 5 BY MR. MCKANE: 6 Q 7 the years 2011, '12, and '13, would they have generated a 8 net income? 9 A They would have a net loss. 10 Q And, sir, Calpine was another of the peer companies, 11 right? 12 A Right. 13 Q And Calpine's interest expense is also less than EFH, 14 right? 15 A It was. 16 Q It was less by billions of dollars for each of the 17 years '11, '12, and '13, right? 18 A Right. 19 Q And if Calpine had the interest expense of EFH in those 20 years it would not have had a net income, right? 21 A It would not have, right. 22 Q And, sir, the same is true with Duke Energy, right? 23 Let me be specific. 24 '11, '12, and '13, that was also lower than EFH's, correct? 25 A And, sir, if Ameron had the interest expense of EFH for Duke Energy had interest expense in That was right, correct. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 92 of 205 Page 92 1 Q In fact even though Duck Energy's long-term debt in 2 2013 was of a similar size to EFH's, its interest expense 3 was billions less, correct? 4 A Correct. 5 Q And if Duke Energy had the interest expense of EFH for 6 '11, '12, and '13, it also would not have net income, 7 correct? 8 A It would not have net income, right. 9 Q And, sir, you looked at Edison International as well, 10 right? 11 A Right. 12 Q And Edison International's interest expense was in the 13 millions, not the billions, correct? 14 A Right. 15 Q And if Edison International had the interest expense of 16 EFH it would not have net income in '11, '12, or '13, 17 correct? 18 A They would not. 19 Q And, sir, you looked at Energon as well, right? 20 A Excuse me. 21 Q And Energon's interest expense for '11, '12, and '13 22 were all over $2 billion less than EFH's, correct? 23 A Right. 24 Q And you agree if Energon had the interest expense of 25 EFH for '11, '12, and '13 it wouldn't have a net income 212-267-6868 Yes. VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 93 of 205 Page 93 1 either, correct? 2 A Correct. 3 Q And the same is true for Exelon, right? 4 A Right. 5 Q If I went through every one of these, if any of these 6 peer companies had the interest expense of EFH they all 7 would not have net income for '11, '12, and '13, correct? 8 A Correct. 9 Q And, sir, you prepared Exhibit 34 because you wanted to 10 demonstrate that the peer companies had the ability to 11 service their debt, right? 12 A It was one of the reasons, right. 13 Q You thought it was important for the Court to consider 14 whether the peer group had the ability to service their debt 15 in connection with today's motion, it was a factor you 16 wanted the Court to consider? 17 A Correct. 18 Q Now, sir, you've been a bankruptcy analyst for 14 19 years, you would agree with me that a number of our 20 corporate debtors that file for bankruptcy do so because 21 they do not have the ability to service their debt, right? 22 A That's correct. 23 Q And, sir, you would agree with me that that's why they 24 file for bankruptcy, it's in part because many of these 25 companies, including EFH, could not continue to service that 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 94 of 205 Page 94 1 debt, correct? 2 A Correct. 3 4 MR. MCKANE: confer with my co-counsel? 5 THE COURT: 6 MR. MCKANE: 7 Your Honor, can I have one moment to Yes, you may. Your Honor, we have no further questions. 8 THE COURT: 9 MS. SARKESSIAN: 10 Thank you. Redirect? Yes, Your Honor. have a moment? 11 THE COURT: 12 Sure, of course. (Pause) 13 MS. SARKESSIAN: And for the record Juliet 14 Sarkessian on behalf of the U.S. Trustee. 15 REDIRECT EXAMINATION 16 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 17 Q Mr. Panacio -- 18 19 Could I just THE COURT: please. Could you adjust the microphones, Thank you. 20 MS. SARKESSIAN: 21 THE COURT: 22 MS. SARKESSIAN: 23 THE COURT: 24 MS. SARKESSIAN: 25 THE COURT: 212-267-6868 Is that better? Yeah, both of them, it helps. Oh. Get you in stereo there. Is that better? Yep, thank you. VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 95 of 205 Page 95 1 MS. SARKESSIAN: Point it downward. 2 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 3 Q 4 as Exhibit 38, it's a PowerPoint presentation that you were 5 looking at. 6 looks like this. 7 A Okay. 8 Q There are you go. 9 page that had been tabbed for you? I'd like to turn your attention back to what was marked It's not in your binder, it would be loose. It Colorful. Okay. And could you turn to the And on that page is that 10 the one with the green graph at the top and it says, 11 "Beginning in 2006 the company used a long-term hedging 12 program"? 13 A Okay, I'm there. 14 Q Okay. 15 2006 the company used a long-term hedging program to 16 establish -- to stabilize -- excuse me -- cash flow and 17 minimize downward risk in natural gas prices." 18 that? 19 A I see that. 20 Q And then the line that's above the actual graph says, 21 "Cash flows from hedging activities." 22 A I see that. 23 Q Now, is cash flow the same thing as EBIDTA as the same 24 number? 25 it the same thing? 212-267-6868 Do you have that right page? So I'm going to read that to you. "Beginning in Do you see I see that. Do you see that? Is that -- can we compare cash flow with EBIDTA, is VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 96 of 205 Page 96 1 A You could have cash flows from operating activities, 2 investing activities, financing, activities, but essentially 3 you're backing out all the interest and amortization, et 4 cetera, it could be cash flows, yeah. 5 Q Okay. 6 A Right. 7 Q -- of the EBIDTA? 8 A Right. 9 Q But it could also not be? 10 A Right. 11 Q Okay. 12 ask this. 13 So cash flows could be the same number -- What would that depend on? Is there -- let me Is this a standard calculation for EBIDTA among 14 every company that they use the same way to calculate 15 EBIDTA? 16 A 17 taxes, appreciation, and amortization. 18 standard if you're calculating -- all companies will 19 calculate in the same -- I assume in the same manner. 20 Q 21 "Beginning in 2006 the company used a long-term hedging 22 program." 23 A I see that. 24 Q Okay. 25 hedging activities," it doesn't specify cash flows from Well, again, EBIDTA is your earnings before interest Okay. 212-267-6868 So that's kind of Now, at the top of the page where it says, Do you see that? But the chart below it says, "Cash flows from VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 97 of 205 Page 97 1 long-term hedging programs? 2 MR. MCKANE: 3 THE COURT: Objection, leading, Your Honor. Overruled. 4 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 5 Q 6 from hedging activities is limited to the hedging activities 7 related to the long-term hedging program that the company 8 started in 2006? 9 A Do you know whether this chart that shows cash flows From this chart, no, I don't know the specific details, 10 I do not know. 11 Q 12 that was the 10-K large for 2009 for Energy Futures Holding 13 Corp. Now, I'd like to turn your attention to Exhibit 39, 14 THE COURT: 15 MS. SARKESSIAN: 16 THE COURT: 17 MS. SARKESSIAN: Okay. 18 MS. SARKESSIAN: For 2009 the 10-K. 19 Which exhibit? It's 39. I'm sorry, 39, right? It's the 10-K. Got it. 2009 for Energy Futures Holding Corp. 20 THE WITNESS: Okay. 21 BY MS. SARKESSIAN: 22 Q 23 for you that's page 200? 24 A Okay. 25 Q Do you recall being asked certain questions here about Okay. 212-267-6868 And could you turn to the page that was tabbed VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 98 of 205 Page 98 1 the capital expenditure figures? 2 A Right. 3 Q Now, do you know those capital expenditure figures, is 4 that divided between Luminant and TXU? 5 between the two? 6 A It is not. 7 Q Okay. 8 be for the capital expenditures? 9 12:15:05) electric, et cetera, if that's not broken down Is it broken out So what would you understand then that figure to Like the (indiscernible - 10 then -- 11 A 12 the capital expenditures this relates to. 13 reading this page. 14 might identify the entity, but this specific page I cannot 15 tell. 16 Q Could it be consolidated? 17 A It could be. 18 Q You can put that aside. Well it doesn't specifically say -- state which entity 19 Again, just If there's a narrative beforehand it I'd like to turn your attention to Exhibit 36, 20 this is in your binder. 21 A Okay. 22 Q It's the chart that is the updated chart from Exhibit B 23 to your declaration. 24 A Okay. 25 Q Okay. 212-267-6868 Now you were asked a lot of questions on cross- VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 99 of 205 Page 99 1 examination about the last three columns of the chart 2 relating to taking the mid-year figures and then projecting 3 them for the full year. 4 A Yes. 5 Q And you were asked, you know, various questions about 6 whether you considered certain one-time events and outages 7 and various things like that. 8 A Right. 9 Q Okay. 10 Do you remember that? Do you recall that? I just want to clarify now. The information that is on those last three 11 columns to the right, which is the mid-year actual, the 12 projection for the full year, and then comparing the 13 projections to the target, do those columns have any effect 14 from the columns that are headed to the left of those 15 columns, threshold versus average and superior versus 16 average? 17 A No. 18 Q And I think just to remind everyone, those columns, 19 threshold versus average and superior versus average, the 20 average you're comparing it to is the five-year actual, 21 correct? 22 A Correct. 23 Q Okay. 24 exhibit for a moment. 25 asked -- specifically asked a question about whether when 212-267-6868 For the five years 2009 through 2013? Now with respect to -- we'll keep with that With respect -- I believe you were VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 100 of 205 Page 100 1 you projected for the full year for EBIDTA whether you took 2 into consideration any scheduling outages that might be a 3 one-time event, correct? 4 A Right. 5 Q Okay. 6 EBIDTA for 2009 to 2013 is it possible that those actual 7 figures, that they were scheduling outages during those 8 years as well? 9 A 10 With respect to looking at past performance of It's possible, right. (Pause) 11 Q Now moving on to your comparison of the -- what we'll 12 call the peer group companies against the debtor, which is 13 Exhibit 34, but I'm not going to ask you about the 14 exhibit -- 15 A Okay. 16 Q -- I just want to just focus a minute generally on 17 comparing the peer group to the debtor. 18 You were asked a lot of questions, do you recall, 19 about you know, what information you considered concerning 20 the bonus programs of the peer groups; do you recall those 21 questions? 22 A Yes. 23 Q Okay. 24 programs, you don't have that -- you didn't consider that, 25 correct? 212-267-6868 And you testified no, you didn't see their bonus VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 101 of 205 Page 101 1 A Correct. 2 Q Okay. 3 reviewed Mr. Frisky's declaration and Mr. Filsinger's 4 declaration in connection with this bonus motion, connect? 5 A Correct. 6 Q Okay. 7 with the motion, right? 8 A Right. 9 Q In those documents did you see any information, any Did you -- I believe you testified that you And various -- the documents that were filed 10 specifics about the bonus programs of the various companies 11 that the debtor is treating as its peer companies? 12 A 13 companies, no. 14 Q 15 which is the EFH insider compensation discussion materials 16 for August 6th, 2014. 17 A Okay. 18 Q Okay. 19 you looked at in connection with preparing your exhibits to 20 your declaration, correct? 21 A Right. 22 Q Okay. 23 they were looking at metrics considered by other energy 24 industry companies, correct? 25 A I did not see specific details of those comparable And turning to Exhibit 5, which is in your binder, You looked at -- this was one of the documents And you pointed out on page 61, correct, where Right. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 102 of 205 Page 102 1 Q Okay. Now other than that information in this 2 particular document, Exhibit 5, is there any other detail 3 provided about the particular bonus plans of these other 4 companies or any other information about exactly what 5 metrics each company uses? 6 A No. 7 Q Okay. 8 A Okay. 9 Q And sticking on this page 61, you previously testified 10 that 20 percent of the peer companies looked at EBIDTA for 11 2013, correct, as a metric, correct? 12 A Right. 13 Q Okay. 14 look at EBIDTA according to this chart? 15 A Well, I think immensely the 80 percent -- 16 Q Okay. 17 A -- would not be using EBIDTA. 18 Q Sorry, 80 percent -- 19 A Eighty percent would not be using this particular 20 metric EBIDTA. 21 Q 22 that EBIDTA metric is the highest weighted metric, correct? 23 A 24 So what percentage of the peer companies did not And that EBIDTA metric -- with respect to the debtors Correct. (Pause) 25 MS. SARKESSIAN: 212-267-6868 That's all I have on redirect, VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 103 of 205 Page 103 1 Your Honor. 2 3 THE COURT: sir. Okay, thank you. Thank you. 4 THE WITNESS: 5 MS. SARKESSIAN: 6 THE COURT: 7 Thank you, Your Honor. Yes? MS. SARKESSIAN: Your Honor, would it be possibly for Mr. Panacio to be excused from the courtroom? 10 THE COURT: 11 MR. MCKANE: 12 THE COURT: 13 MS. SARKESSIAN: 14 THE COURT: 15 Your Honor -- I haven't been allowing recross just so the record is clear. 8 9 You may step down, Any objection? No objection, Your Honor. Very good. Thank you, Your Honor. Thank you, sir. Thank you for making time for the Court. 16 Do we want to deal with the exhibits that were 17 identified for identification that have not been admitted? 18 I think that only 38 and 39. 19 MR. MCKANE: Thank you, Your Honor. 20 do move into evidence Exhibits 38 and 39. 21 of our rebuttal case. 22 THE COURT: 23 MS. SARKESSIAN: 24 All right. The debtors It will be part Any objection? Your Honor, I have no objection to Exhibit 39, which is the 2009 10-K. 25 I do have an objection to Exhibit 38. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com I mean 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 104 of 205 Page 104 1 among other things I haven't had an opportunity to review 2 it, but there's a tremendous amount of information in here, 3 and I don't -- I don't think we've had a witness that has 4 testified to this. 5 6 MR. MCKANE: Your Honor, the focus of our use of 38 is solely the one page slide on the hedging program. 7 8 It's hearsay. THE COURT: I mean it was a demonstrative at the first day. 9 MR. MCKANE: 10 THE COURT: 11 MR. MCKANE: It was. Isn't it hearsay? Well, Your Honor, in some ways what 12 it does is it a -- it is a summary of corporate records, and 13 therefore it would be an exception to the hearsay rule 14 because it was prepared, you know, for that purpose. 15 really is a compilation of -- 16 THE COURT: It It wasn't prepared by the business 17 people, it was prepared by -- well, I don't know who 18 prepared it, that's part of the problem. 19 Mr. Sassower presented it, but I expect he didn't prepare 20 it. 21 22 MR. MCKANE: I'm not going to comment on Mr. Sassower's preparation. 23 24 I mean THE COURT: Well create. (Laughter) 25 MR. MCKANE: 212-267-6868 We'll stipulate the that, Your Honor. VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 105 of 205 Page 105 1 2 THE COURT: evidence, I'm not going -- 3 MR. MCKANE: 4 THE COURT: 5 admitted. 6 7 -- yeah, it's -- it will not be 39 is the admitted without objection? 39 is the without objection. Thank you, Your Honor. THE COURT: Thank you. (Trial Exhibit No. 39 was admitted) 10 11 Fine, Your Honor. MS. SARKESSIAN: 8 9 I don't think it's appropriate THE COURT: You mentioned a rebuttal case you're going the -- 12 MR. MCKANE: No, Your Honor, we -- I was only 13 referencing that for -- anticipating an argument that we had 14 closed our case in chief. 15 THE COURT: 16 MR. MCKANE: 17 And my point is only that, you know, we -- at this point we have no additional evidence. 18 19 Oh, oh, oh. THE COURT: Okay. Very good. Thank you. right. 20 Any further evidence by any party? 21 MS. SARKESSIAN: 22 THE COURT: 23 None. No, Your Honor. Very good, that'll close the evidence share record. 24 25 All I have a hearing at 1:00, so let's break for lunch, reconvene at 1:30, and I'll hear closing, then we'll 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 106 of 205 Page 106 1 probably have to take a recess of some time and I'll put -- 2 I predict that after closings and a recess I'll be able to 3 present a ruling. 4 We'll recess until 1:30. If you could clear the tables, please, I'd 5 appreciate it, since I have a hearing at 1:00, although it 6 should be short. 7 MR. SASSOWER: 8 Just to give you a sense, I anticipate my closing 9 10 will probably go about a half hour, just so you can budget it. 11 12 THE COURT: to give me a time. It is what it is, I won't ask anyone That's fine. 13 MR. SASSOWER: 14 MS. SARKESSIAN: 15 Thank you, Your Honor. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Your Honor. (Recess at 12:25 p.m.) 16 THE CLERK: All rise. 17 THE COURT: Please be seated. 18 Settle down over there. 19 (Laughter.) 20 THE COURT: 21 MR. SASSOWER: Mr. Sassower. Good afternoon, Your Honor. For 22 the record, Edward Sassower of Kirkland and Ellis, LLP, 23 counsel for the debtors. 24 25 Your Honor, with your permission, I'd like to proceed with the closing. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 107 of 205 Page 107 1 THE COURT: Yes. 2 MR. SASSOWER: Your Honor noted in Furniture Brans 3 that the U.S. Trustee, and I quote, "stands to defend the 4 system as a whole and to ensure that the debtor and the 5 committee or any parties that are coming in front of the 6 Court are not agreeing on something that while it sounds 7 great to them, maybe is not so great for the system as a 8 whole, or even the debtors." 9 Furthermore, in your ruling on the motion to 10 exclude Mr. Panacio's testimony, Your Honor also noted that 11 the role of the United States Trustee in, and again I quote, 12 "preserving the integrity of the bankruptcy process." 13 Ms. Schwartz similarly stated in her opening 14 remarks that, again, I quote, "the U.S. Trustee, like the 15 Court, is dedicated to protecting the integrity of the 16 system and making sure that all parties in the bankruptcy 17 proceedings adhere to comply with the Bankruptcy Code" and 18 concluded those opening remarks by saying that, unless the 19 debtors can address all of the U.S. Trustee's issues to the 20 Court's satisfaction, then the U.S. Trustee requests the 21 Court deny the motion. 22 Your Honor, we fully respect the important role 23 that the United States Trustee plays in the Chapter 11 24 process. 25 have addressed all of their issues and it's clear that we've 212-267-6868 But after last week and today, we think that we VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 108 of 205 Page 108 1 met what's required under the law and what's require in 2 terms of evidence. 3 Your Honor knows the relevant legal standard 4 better than anybody as given the significance of your many 5 decisions and ruling in the employee compensation context. 6 The first thing the debtors must establish is that the 7 contemplated payments do not fall within Section 50(c)(3)(1) 8 of the Bankruptcy Code. 9 payments are primarily incentivizing and not primarily 10 In other words, that the potential retentive. 11 The debtors have submitted a mountain of evidence, 12 including testimony from Mr. Burke, Mr. McFarland and 13 Mr. Filsinger demonstrating that the applicable performance 14 metrics are not guaranteed and are not time-based but, 15 instead, are challenging financial operational and other 16 business targets that make the plans primarily 17 incentivizing. 18 One thing Ms. Schwartz argued in her opening is 19 that the debtors did not submit any evidence regarding the 20 satisfaction of the stringent requirements of 50(c)(1). 21 That's because we are confident that 50(c)(3)(1) does not 22 apply -- 23 24 THE COURT: 503(c)(1). You keep saying 50(c)(3)(1). 25 (Laughter.) 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 109 of 205 Page 109 1 MR. SASSOWER: 2 THE COURT: 3 Thank you, Your Honor. That's okay. You're getting me confused. 4 MR. SASSOWER: Your Honor has heard over the last 5 few days how the debtors' metrics provide exactly the type 6 of difficult to achieve hurdles that courts have repeatedly 7 blessed as incentivizing. 8 testified that as for nuclear available generation, the 9 debtors' nuclear facilities must hit top quartile to hit For example, Mr. McFarland 10 thresholds and must do so in a year with two refueling 11 outages, which occurs once every three years. 12 And Mr. Burke testified that TXU Energy must hit 13 industry leading performance to meet threshold on bad debt, 14 customer complaints and contribution margin. 15 customer complaints, TXU must achieve its second best 16 performance in the last six years. 17 been market by unusually extreme weather. 18 And as for In a year that's already Furthermore, Mr. Burke, Mr. Friske and 19 Mr. Filsinger, correction, Mr. Burke, Mr. McFarland and 20 Mr. Filsinger all identified substantial risks that would 21 cause TXU, Luminant and EFH to miss these tough targets 22 given year-to-date performance. 23 testified that Luminant must keep its current nuclear outage 24 to 24.5 days despite already being behind and already 25 needing to beat top quartile performance by almost 7 days. 212-267-6868 For example, Mr. McFarland VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 110 of 205 Page 110 1 And Mr. McFarland further testified that all told, 2 Luminant had 125 planned outage days left in the year and if 3 those go long, it will affect Vatrix and EBIDTA. 4 You also heard testimony from Mr. Filsinger that 5 some of the metrics require near perfection and therefore at 6 some point the plans have to stop requiring continued 7 improvement, which would be virtually impossible, but rather 8 needs to compensate management for continued excellence, 9 which should not be taken for granted. In attaining that 10 near perfect performance and continually exceeding industry 11 averages requires a tremendous amount of effect, experience 12 and talent each and every year and those results deserve to 13 be rewarded. 14 then the level of performance would undoubtedly decrease. 15 If management take their eye off the ball, Also, to clarify a related point, part of the 16 cross-examination of Mr. Filsinger focused on the degree to 17 which the company has previously beaten industry averages. 18 Mr. Filsinger was simply using industry averages as a basis 19 for comparison. 20 the company considers when setting its targets, it's by no 21 means the sole or most important factor. 22 its targets, the company ultimately is trying to determine 23 what is the very best the company can do regardless of its 24 peers. 25 While industry averages are a factor that When determining The U.S. Trustee's various arguments as to why the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 111 of 205 Page 111 1 payments are primarily retentive and bring the motion within 2 the requirements of 503(c)(3)(1) all miss the mark. 3 Ms. Schwartz seems to suggest that the use of the phrase, 4 retain, in any document automatically converts the primary 5 purpose of the plan to retention. 6 For starters, there are no documents referencing 7 the word, retention award, that are before the Court today. 8 And only one of the plans that's before the Court today 9 mentions the word, retain, and that is the EAIP, which also 10 uses the words, motivates, and the phrase, "rewarding 11 performance that satisfies established performance goals" in 12 the same sentence as the word, retain. 13 More importantly, labels don't matter. 14 matters is the actual substance of the plan and all of the 15 plans before the Court today require management to achieve 16 financial, operational and other business targets in order 17 to receive a payment. 18 just for the employee sticking around. 19 What None of the plans provide a payment The U.S. Trustee also attempts to make much of the 20 requirement that an employee must remain with the debtors 21 for a short period of time after the quarter in order for 22 the debtors to calculate whether the metrics have been met 23 and process the payment. 24 every incentive plan is somewhat retentive because you need 25 to continue to work at the company in order to hit the 212-267-6868 As the case law repeatedly notes, VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 112 of 205 Page 112 1 incentive target. 2 Taken to its logical extreme, the U.S. Trustee's 3 argument would require an employee to be paid incentive 4 compensation each and every day for that payment not to be 5 retentive or at least the debtors must make the payments 6 immediately at the end of the performance period, which is 7 not practical. 8 More importantly, an employee must hit the metrics 9 in order to earn a payment and that, in and of itself, makes 10 the plans primarily incentivizing. 11 testified that 90 percent of other company's compensation 12 plans have similar language about remaining through the 13 performance period. 14 Furthermore, Mr. Friske The U.S. Trustee also tries to argue that the 15 metrics are not incentivizing because the debtors' average 16 five year historical performance exceeds some of the 17 performance metrics in effect for this year. 18 Trustee also argues that multiplying the first half of 2014 19 performance by two, to conclude that the four year 2014 20 metrics will be easily achieved. 21 grossly over simplifying what is a very complicated process 22 that takes up to four to six months to complete. 23 The U.S. The U.S. Trustee is The point of this process is to try to compare 24 apples to apples, to isolate operational performance by 25 excluding items like onetime events, like the long term 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 113 of 205 Page 113 1 hedging program and items like debt service costs that are 2 not relevant to evaluating performance of the debtors' 3 employees. 4 Let me first address the point about the five-year 5 historical averages. Circumstances change year over year 6 and the five-year historical average of the metrics is not a 7 good predictor of likely performance in the next year. 8 example, looking only at historical averages ignores the 9 fact the value of the corporate hedge program declined For 10 sharply over the last four years as Mr. Filsinger testified. 11 These hedges were put in place before the prices of gas 12 cratered. 13 the value of the hedges as they roll off. Now, as a result, the debtors cannot replicate 14 The corporate hedge program contributed 15 approximately $1.8 billion to EBIDTA IN 2012, approximately 16 $1 billion to EBIDTA in 2013, approximately $462 million to 17 EBIDTA during the first half of 2014 and will contribute 18 zero dollars to EBIDTA going forward, during the second half 19 of 2014 or beyond. 20 As another example, looking at historical averages 21 ignores the fact that environmental regulations change and 22 impact performance of the business in varying degrees year- 23 to-year. 24 with respect to the TXU customer satisfaction metrics and as 25 Mr. McFarland testified with respect to the coal generation 212-267-6868 And yet another example, as Mr. Burke testified VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 114 of 205 Page 114 1 metrics, the company sometimes change the way in which they 2 measure the metrics, which sometimes makes historical 3 performance not comparable. 4 The failure to recognize this point, particularly 5 the importance of the hedges rolling off, is exactly what 6 Mr. Evans was trying to explain when he was telling the U.S. 7 Trustee in connection with his deposition why an uninformed 8 observer might conclude that the metrics could look like a 9 lay-up if the observer was only looking at year over year 10 performance. 11 Let me next address by the U.S. Trustee's 12 multiplication of the first half of 2014 performance by two 13 doesn't make sense. 14 ignores a variety of factors, including the seasonality of 15 the debtors' businesses as testified to by Mr. Burke, 16 Mr. McFarland and Mr. Filsinger, the impact of counterparty 17 terminations of contracts associated with the corporate 18 hedging program, the long term corporate hedging program 19 triggered by the bankruptcy filing, which was a onetime 20 event that skews the first half of 2014 EBIDTA by $460 21 million, approximately, I think that's 464, 462, 22 approximately $462 million as testified to by Mr. McFarland 23 and Mr. Filsinger and schedule plant outages that will occur 24 in the second half of this year as testified to by 25 Mr. McFarland. 212-267-6868 Specifically, multiplying by two VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 115 of 205 Page 115 1 One final point on the trustee's claim that these 2 programs are retentive, in the U.S. Trustee's opening 3 argument, Ms. Schwartz referenced Hawker and made reference 4 about how retention plans can sometimes be dressed up to try 5 to look like incentive plans but any comparison to Hawker is 6 entirely misplaced. 7 In Hawker, the keep (ph) awarded a payment so long 8 as Hawker consummated a transaction that had largely been 9 negotiated prior to the (indiscernible - 1:55:04) date. 10 Here, the debtors' compensation programs have been around 11 for many years and are premised on the achievement of hard 12 to meet financial, operational and other business goals. 13 Before I turn to ordinary course and the Dana 14 factors, I want to address the U.S. Trustee's critique of 15 the use of EBIDTA as a key metric in the compensation plans 16 which is really an attempt by the U.S. Trustee to try to 17 replace the debtors' business judgment with its own. 18 The debtors have used EBIDTA as a metric for many 19 years. 20 testified that the majority of companies use an earnings- 21 based target in their annual or long term incentive plans. 22 But the exact earnings-based 23 whether it's earnings per share or net income or EBIDTA or 24 cash flow tends to vary based on a variety of factors, 25 including whether the company is public and it's level of 212-267-6868 EBIDTA as a metric for many years. Mr. Friske target the company chooses, VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 116 of 205 Page 116 1 interest expense. 2 Mr. Friske further testified that 20 percent, 3 which is a healthy percentage, of the plans reviewed by 4 Towers Watson for energy companies use EBIDTA and that 5 EBIDTA was used even more frequently by debtors in Chapter 6 11. 7 were reviewed used net income. By comparison, only 32 percent of the companies who 8 In the debtors' business judgment, as testified to 9 by Mr. Burke, Mr. McFarland and Mr. Filsinger, EBIDTA is the 10 proper measure of operational performance and ensures that 11 the evaluation of the debtors' employees is not impacted by 12 factors outside of their control like debt services. 13 (Indiscernible - 1:56:47) arguments also 14 essentially -- such an argument that insider compensation 15 plans should rarely be approved in Chapter 11 because many 16 debtors file for -- file for bankruptcy because of their 17 over leveraged capital structure and therefore do not have 18 net income. 19 The U.S. Trustee also argued that using the same 20 metrics in the key leader performance program and in the 21 EAIP is somehow inappropriate and seemed to be suggesting 22 that the debtor should have one incentive plan instead of 23 two. 24 debtors' business judgment. 25 testified it's common for companies and debtors to have But, again, having multiple plans is a function of the 212-267-6868 In addition, Mr. Friske VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 117 of 205 Page 117 1 multiple incentive plans; typically, one or more for short 2 term incentives and one or more for long term incentives. 3 And, as Mr. Friske further testified, using similar metrics 4 across multiple plans is commonplace. 5 The second thing the debtors must establish under 6 the law is that the compensation programs are either 7 ordinary course, business transactions or a reasonable 8 exercise of the debtors' business judgment that is supported 9 by the facts and circumstances of the case. 10 Other courts have held that the facts and 11 circumstances test is essentially the same as the business 12 judgment analysis under Section 363 of the Bankruptcy Code, 13 so probably too much is being made of this prong. 14 said that, when evaluating compensation plans under the 15 facts and circumstances test, courts rely on the Dana 16 factors. 17 Having The debtors have established that the compensation 18 programs are both ordinary course and meet the facts and 19 circumstances test. 20 continuation of the compensation programs are ordinary 21 course transactions by satisfying both the horizontal test 22 and the vertical tests. 23 because the structure and design of the debtors' plans are 24 consistent with comparable companies and the total potential 25 compensation is consistent with market practices in the 212-267-6868 The debtors have demonstrated that the The horizontal test is satisfied VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 118 of 205 Page 118 1 energy industry. 2 conclusion and his testimony has gone unrebutted. 3 Mr. Friske's testimony supports this The vertical test is satisfied because the 4 compensation programs have existed in substantially similar 5 form for years and comport with the debtors' "pre-petition 6 business practices and conduct" and the testimony from 7 Mr. Burke -- Mr. McFarland covered this point well. 8 9 The U.S. Trustee makes a couple of arguments as to why the payments are not ordinary course. None of those 10 have any support in the case law. 11 debtors utilized outside advisors in developing the 2014 12 metrics. 13 in the middle of the year. 14 plans that were modified still used the same compensation 15 targets, had the same participants, and the same metric 16 categories before and after they were revised. 17 changes were to make some of the targets tougher to achieve, 18 some of the performance goals tougher to achieve, to remove 19 any payments that are triggered solely based on continued 20 employment past a specific date and to make the performance 21 period under the key leader performance program, one of the 22 plans, quarterly instead of two years, as it was under its 23 predecessor plan, the owner-operator plan. 24 25 First, is that the And the second is that certain thresholds changed Just to clarify this point, the The only Let me pause on the mid-year adjustment for a minute, Your Honor. 212-267-6868 The U.S. Trustee made much of the fact VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 119 of 205 Page 119 1 that Mr. Evans testified that the adjustments were made mid- 2 year because it appeared that six months after actual 3 performance of the metrics could be viewed as "lay-ups." 4 But as Your Honor now knows from watching the video, 5 Mr. Evans was simply explaining the same thing that you 6 heard Mr. Burke and Mr. McFarland testify to, which is that 7 on advice of professionals, the company looked at the actual 8 performance year-to-date and toughened up the metrics for 9 the balance of the year to eliminate any doubt that the 10 actual performance made the metrics too easy to hit. 11 testifying that the metrics before the Court are not lay- 12 ups. 13 He was Moreover, during her opening remarks, the U.S. 14 Trustee seems to suggest that it was somehow surprising that 15 Mr. Evans was using the terms in his deposition that have a 16 specific or unique meaning under the bankruptcy compensation 17 case law terms, like lay-up. 18 the compensation committee of a company that's going through 19 a major restructuring and has hired restructuring 20 professionals 18 months before it filed it filed for Chapter 21 11. 22 standard that must be satisfied in order to retain these 23 programs in Chapter 11. Mr. Evans is the chairman of It's hardly surprising that he spent time studying the 24 Even if Your Honor were to conclude that the 25 programs were not ordinary course for some reason, the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 120 of 205 Page 120 1 motion should still be approved because the evidence 2 overwhelmingly shows that the compensation programs are 3 justified by the facts and circumstances of these cases 4 under the standards set forth in Dana. 5 The U.S. Trustee has not even attempted to argue 6 the Dana factors. I'll quickly run through the six factors. 7 The first factor is that the insider compensation programs 8 must be calculated to achieve the desired performance. 9 explained by Mr. McFarland, Mr. Burke and Mr. Filsinger, the As 10 programs are tied directly to financial, operational and 11 other business objectives that trigger payments only if the 12 debtors satisfied difficult to attain targets that would 13 generate value for the debtors' stakeholders. 14 Factor two, the cost of the programs must be 15 reasonable. Mr. Friske testified that the compensation for 16 EFH's insiders is reasonable even taking into account the L- 17 tip payments that are covered by the LCs that are not before 18 your Court today. 19 compensation paid to insiders and he determined that the 20 overall target total, direct compensation is below the 50th 21 percentile for the debtors' peer group. So he evaluated -- he took all of the 22 He also testified, Mr. Friske, that is, that the 23 aggregate cost of these short-term incentive plans and the 24 long-term incentive plans are within the range of observed 25 market practice as percentage of revenue. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 121 of 205 Page 121 1 Factor three under Dana is that the scope of the 2 programs is fair and reasonable. 3 several of the plans mirror plans offered to non-insiders 4 that have already been approved by Your Honor and all of the 5 programs -- all of the debtors' employees participate in 6 some sort of incentive compensation program. 7 As explained by Mr. Burke, Factor four is that the programs are consistent 8 with industry standards. As explained by Mr. Friske, the 9 programs rely heavily on objective financial performance 10 metrics and the total compensation is in line with market 11 practice. 12 Factor five is that the debtors perform due 13 diligence in developing these programs. 14 testified, and as explained by other witnesses, the targets 15 were developed on top of the budget as part of an extensive 16 and rigorous process. 17 As Mr. Evans And the last factor, factor six, is that the 18 debtors receive independent counsel in developing the 19 programs. 20 engaged Kirkland and Ellis, Filsinger Energy Partners and 21 Towers Watson to advise the debtors concerning pre and post- 22 petition compensation programs. 23 And as the trustee has acknowledged, the debtors Your Honor, I now want to talk to you about the 24 letters of credit. 25 letters of credit are not before you today, we do want to 212-267-6868 Even though the payments covered by the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 122 of 205 Page 122 1 clear up some confusion regarding the LCs because the U.S. 2 Trustee is arguing that the LCs make the SPCL tip program 3 outside the ordinary course. 4 The LCs were put in place many years ago prior to 5 the start of the restructuring. To understand the impetus 6 of the LCs, one needs to put him or herself in the mindset 7 of the board at the time. 8 time when power prices were cratering as a result of the 9 shale revolution. The LCs were put in place at a It's difficult to overstate the impact 10 that the cratering of power prices had on the industry as a 11 whole and the company, in particular. 12 As Your Honor will recall from my first day 13 presentation, the settled price of gas contracts was $6.42 14 per MM BTU in 2007 at the time of the debtors' LBL. 15 rose, effectively doubled to $13.11 per MM BTU within a year 16 and then it fell all the way down to $2.04 per MM BTU by 17 2012. 18 equity declined precipitously and called into question the 19 effectiveness of the equity-based compensation programs. And it As a result of this fall, the value of the company's 20 In the wake of this fundamental change, the board 21 decided to implement the SPCL tip to help maintain 22 management's focus on operational excellence and incentivize 23 superior performance. 24 multi-year long performance periods, and given the 25 perception of maximum uncertainty that existed at that time, 212-267-6868 Because the L tip provided for a VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 123 of 205 Page 123 1 the debtors decided to create a mechanism that would provide 2 employees with the comfort of knowing that payments would 3 actually be made if the employee, if the employee hit the 4 performance metrics under the L tip. 5 As Mr. Burke testified, a plan would not be 6 incentivizing if the employee was worried that he or she 7 would not be paid even if they hit the metrics. 8 existence of the LCs does not bear on whether the L tip 9 itself is ordinary course. The The LCs are simply a funding 10 mechanism for some of the potential payments under that plan 11 if the metrics are achieved. 12 get the payments covered by the LCs, the debtors still have 13 to hit the performance metrics. In other words, in order to 14 Furthermore, you heard from Mr. Friske who 15 testified that implementing a mechanism that assures 16 payments under incentive compensation plan is not uncommon. 17 Mr. Friske testified that 50 percent of long-term incentive 18 plans incorporate mechanisms like secular or rabbi trusts. 19 There's no evidence in the record the SPCL tip program 20 itself is anything other than ordinary course. 21 term incentive program put in place more than four years 22 ago. 23 that doesn't change that fact. It's a long- And as to the LCs which are just a funding mechanism 24 More important, as Your Honor is well aware, the 25 only SPCL tip payments at issue before the Court today are 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 124 of 205 Page 124 1 the potential payments that, if earned, are not covered by 2 the letters of credit. 3 letters of credit are a red herring. 4 So, again, we submit that the Another important point I want to clarify to avoid 5 any confusion, our motion specifically asks Your Honor only 6 to approve certain payments that arise under the four plans. 7 We are not asking Your Honor to approve the debtors' 8 compensation plans as a whole now and forever. 9 intend to come back to this Court soon for authorization to In fact, we 10 implement incentive programs for the 2015 period and 11 potentially beyond. 12 Lastly, all of the debtors major creditors, the 13 economic stakeholders in this case, in these cases, have 14 evaluated the debtors' compensation plans and decided not to 15 object to the relief request or, in some cases, the Court 16 relief requested. 17 presented over the last several days on all these issues, 18 the debtors respectfully request that the Court overrule the 19 United State Trustee's objection and approve the debtors 20 insider compensation motion. 21 Based on the overwhelming evidence Your Honor, one thing we've done is we culled the 22 transcript and taken certain quotes from some of the 23 witnesses and some of the language from some of the 24 documents. 25 record, again, at the podium, I'd like to just simply hand 212-267-6868 And rather than my reading it all into the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 125 of 205 Page 125 1 up this presentation which has previously been emailed to 2 the U.S. Trustee. 3 THE COURT: 4 MR. SASSOWER: 5 All right. So you can consider that (indiscernible - 2:09:57). 6 THE COURT: Thank you. 7 MR. SASSOWER: With that, Your Honor, I'd like to 8 just reserve some time to rebut. 9 over. 10 11 THE COURT: Thank you. Do you have a copy of this for Ms. Werkaiser (ph) -- 12 MS. SASSOWER: 13 THE COURT: 14 Beyond that, my closing's That's fine. 15 Yes. -- if you don't mind. Thank you very much. MS. SCHWARTZ: Thank you. Ms. Schwartz. May it please the Court. For the 16 record, I am Andrea Schwartz, representing Robert DeAngelis, 17 the United States Trustee. 18 As Your Honor knows, I certainly haven't been the 19 only one representing Ms. DeAngelis in this case. 20 here are my fine colleagues, Mr. Schepacarter, 21 Juliet Sarkesian (ph), Timothy Fox and another analyst, 22 Mike West. 23 With me Your Honor, in preparing for today's closing 24 arguments, I spent a good deal of time thinking about where 25 to begin and what evidence I should highlight for the Court 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 126 of 205 Page 126 1 to assist the Court in understanding and sustaining the U.S. 2 Trustee's objection. 3 new, something I had not argued before, whereas here, the 4 U.S. Trustee is the sole objector and the debtors have urged 5 the Court to weigh that fact heavily. 6 reasons why the Court should not do that a little later. 7 I wanted to come up with something I will address the I was, however, unable to come up with anything 8 new because the truth is that the U.S. Trustee, like the 9 Court, is charged with preserving the integrity of the 10 bankruptcy system and ensuring that the rule of law is 11 upheld. 12 part of my opening in his opening. 13 things happen all the time. 14 I certainly didn't expect my adversary to be using I guess, different Here, the law upon which the disputed bonus plans 15 center is Section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code which was 16 part of the amendments to the Code under the Bankruptcy 17 Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act. 18 noted in In re. Global Home Products, and which language has 19 often been cited by the many courts that have considered 20 these types of plans, Section 503(c) was enacted to: 21 "eradicate the notion that executives were entitled to 22 bonuses simply for staying with the company through the 23 bankruptcy process." 24 Nutriceutical, Section 503(c) severely restricts the 25 debtors' ability to pay retention, severance and other 212-267-6868 As the Court And, as this Court noted in Nelson VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 127 of 205 Page 127 1 amounts. 2 So, in addition to the reasons that I have stated 3 above, the U.S. Trustee's objection is also grounded in an 4 effort to prevent abuse where executive bonus plans are 5 proposed, consistent with Congress's intent in enacting the 6 BAPCPA. 7 forth a legal question for the Court; that is, whether the 8 Court could authorize the debtors to pay more than $20 9 million in bonuses to 26 senior executives who are insiders In our brief and our opening statement, we set 10 of the debtors and who represent less than one percent of 11 the debtors' workforce. 12 We set forth several objections to each of the 13 three executive bonus plans, which objections all have 14 merit. 15 I would like to first address our objections to 16 the key leader performance plan because the evidence adduced 17 from the witnesses and contained in the actual plan 18 documents demonstrate that this Court is subject to Section 19 503(c)(1) and that the Court is without discretion to 20 approve it unless the debtors, through a subsequent motion, 21 since they have not addressed this Code Section here, can 22 meet the high hurdles that Congress put in place for 23 approval of plans like the key leader performance plan. 24 25 The burden of proof is not in dispute. with the debtors. 212-267-6868 It rests In addition, the debtors concede that VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 128 of 205 Page 128 1 each of the 26 individuals eligible under these plans are 2 insiders as that term is defined in Code Section 10131. 3 And, with respect to the debtors' burden of proof, Your 4 Honor, we urge the Court not to accept the expansive 5 treatment and sometimes over used language of the late 6 Judge Lifland in Dana where he states that every 7 compensation plan has a retentive element. 8 9 But here the Court should deeper into these plans to determine their true nature. Are they truly 10 incentivizing? 11 the key leader performance plan, strikes and elucidates the 12 concern that the Court in Hawker v. Trapp noted. 13 the debtor there had dressed up a key employee retention 14 plan to look like a key employee incentive plan with the 15 hope that it will pass muster under the less demanding 16 "facts and circumstances" standard under 503(c)(3). 17 Or are they primarily retentive? The plan, And that We urge the Court to be wary of attempts to 18 characterize what is essentially an insider retention plan 19 as incentive, as an incentive plan, to bypass the 20 requirements of Section 503(c)(3)(1) and should -- and we 21 ask that the Court consider the circumstances under which 22 the particular proposals are made along with the structure 23 of the compensation packages when determining whether the 24 compensation programs are subject to 503(c)(1). 25 Judge Glenn in In re. Residential Capital, LLC 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 129 of 205 Page 129 1 also, as we refer to it as ResCap (ph) stated, a debtors' 2 label of a plan as incentivizing to avoid the strictures of 3 Section 503(c)(1) must be viewed with skepticism. 4 circumstances under which the proposal is made and the 5 structure of the compensation package control. 6 at 478 BR. 154 Bankr. SDNY 2012. The And that's 7 The debtors have asserted that the three executive 8 bonus plans at issue in these cases represent a continuation 9 of the debtors' pre-petition compensation practices. With 10 respect to the key leader performance plan, the debtors 11 assert that this plan is a continuation of its owner- 12 operated -- owner-operator plan. 13 documents during discovery or accepted into evidence contain 14 this name, the plan to which the debtors refer is included 15 at Tab 17 and, if Your Honor would turn to that tab please. 16 THE COURT: 17 MS. SCHWARTZ: 18 Hold on. Your Honor, if we had more time, we would have separated these -- 19 20 Although none of the plan THE COURT: That's fine. a lot to move around. I got it. That's fine. Number 17. It's just Yes, ma'am. 21 MS. SCHWARTZ: Thank you, Your Honor. 22 And as Your Honor will see, this is the owner- 23 operator plan. 24 called the EFH Corp. Retention Award Plan. 25 says labels mean nothing. 212-267-6868 Well, what does it look like? Hmmm. It's Now Mr. Sassower Well, I think, Your Honor, the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 130 of 205 Page 130 1 law is pretty clear that Your Honor should look at how this 2 entire compensation package was arrived and here, at Tab 17, 3 I will just read that the purpose, the section number 1, 4 called Purpose and Effectives Dates, states: 5 retain the services of certain key employees, Energy Future 6 Holdings Corp., a Texas corporation, the company, has 7 adopted this EFH Corp. Retention Award Plan to incentivize 8 such key employees to "continue providing services to the 9 company and its affiliates." in order to 10 Your Honor, I will also point out for you in the 11 other plan documents that there's no language, as there is 12 in other plan documents, that talk to this EFH Corp. 13 Retention Award Plan as being a performance-based plan. 14 Frankly, the plain language says, that is, to incentivize 15 such key employees to "continue providing services." 16 plan language suggests it's a retention plan. 17 The Now, in his opening statement, Ms. Sassower made 18 the point that these are old plans. 19 BAPCPA then. 20 retention, et cetera. 21 Retention plan that the debtors disguise as the owner- 22 operator plan, is dated 12-20-10. 23 the BAPCPA and, as is plain, paragraph one, the debtors seem 24 to know how to use the word incentivize because there it is, 25 contained in paragraph one. 212-267-6868 They didn't have the They didn't know about incentivize versus Well, the actual plan, this EFH Corp. That is five years after VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 131 of 205 Page 131 1 At paragraph four, which is on page three, this 2 sets forth who's eligible under the plan and what does it 3 say? 4 administrator are eligible employees to receive a retention 5 award under this plan in accordance with the terms of the 6 individual participation agreement provided for each 7 eligible employee. 8 know, how it gets approved from the SPC, et cetera. 9 going to read the entire provision, but I'm highlighting for It says that those key employees designated by the And it goes on to say about whether, you I'm not 10 the Court that it is, in fact, referencing a retention 11 award. 12 Paragraph five of this EFH Corp. Retention Award 13 plan talks about payment of the retention award. 14 goes on, terms of the retention award, 15 will be eligible to receive a retention award in accordance 16 with Section 5, each participation agreement shall provide 17 the amount of the retention award, the time for the payment, 18 vesting or forfeiture provisions and any other terms or 19 conditions that the administrator or the committee 20 determines to be appropriate for the eligible employee's 21 retention award. 22 And it an eligible employee Paragraph seven sets forth in amendment and 23 termination of the plan that at 7(c) or (c) in the hole, it 24 says: 25 terminate this plan at any time provided that such an action the O&C committee shall have the right to amend or 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 132 of 205 Page 132 1 does not materially and adversely impact any eligible 2 employee without the written consent of the eligible 3 employee, provided, however, that the O&C shall have the 4 right to amend or terminate the plan, at any time without 5 the consent of the eligible employees, if the administrator 6 has determined in its sole discretion that such an action is 7 appropriate in light of changes in any applicable law or if 8 such an action is required by law. 9 So this is -- this provision is akin to a 10 guarantee. 11 consent of the eligible employee. 12 paragraph 7(e) it talks about the non-transferability of the 13 retention award. 14 award cannot be transferred. 15 They cannot terminate this plan without the Similarly, Your Honor, at This plan provides that the retention Now, this plan has another document that goes 16 along with it which is the individual participation 17 agreement and that can be found at Tab 19 of the binder. 18 THE COURT: Yes. 19 MS. SCHWARTZ: Now, again, we're talking about 20 what the debtors have called something other than the EFH 21 Corp. Retention Award Plan. 22 example of an individual participation award letter that was 23 provided to us by the debtors and redacted to keep out 24 certain information. 25 another important document that shows that this was a 212-267-6868 This is the -- this is an But I think this is an important -- VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 133 of 205 Page 133 1 retention award and it was, in fact, guaranteed. 2 The actual individual participation agreement 3 provides in the second paragraph amounts and payments dates 4 and it says, the full amount of your potential retention 5 award will equal $550,000, the retention award. 6 retention award will be payable in two separate payments, 7 the first on September 28, 2012 and the second on September 8 30th, 2014. 9 I'll get to the stay provision but it's based on two years. 10 Your So you have to stay for a two-year period. And then it says, each payment will be equal to 11 the amount with results from a formula based upon one half 12 of your retention award and multiplied by a percentage that 13 reflects the company's financial performance during the 14 applicable period to which your payment relates, see 15 formulas below, in each case, subject to certain minimum and 16 maximum levels. 17 a cash, lump sum, et cetera. Then it says, each payment will be paid in 18 Then you look at the formula and the formula says, 19 that for the first retention payment, the formula will be 25 20 percent times the retention award, which is already defined 21 at $550,000 times the 2010 EBIDTA percentage plus 25 percent 22 times the retention award times the 2011 EBIDTA percentage. 23 The document defines EBIDTA percentage and it says: for the 24 applicable year shall be defined as a percentage equal to or 25 between 50 percent and 100 percent that will be determined 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 134 of 205 Page 134 1 by the level of budgeted earnings before interest, taxes, 2 depreciation, amortization, EBIDTA, actually achieved for 3 that year. 4 Now, Your Honor, what's interesting in this 5 document is on the next page. On the next page, the top 6 paragraph talks about this EBIDTA percentage and how it 7 applies. 8 EBIDTA percentage -- there's a target and it's not met, 9 there's no retention award. This is not the case, Your Honor, where if the What the plan provides is, in 10 the middle of the paragraph, at the top of the page, 11 provided however that in no event shall the EBIDTA 12 percentage be less than 50 percent or greater than 100 13 percent. 14 budgeted EBIDTA amount for 2010 is determined to be four 15 billion, and actual EBIDTA for 2010 is 3.5 billion, the 16 percentage that must be used for the 2010 EBIDTA percentage 17 portion of the first retention payment formula above will be 18 50 percent. 19 guarantee. 20 And it explains, for example, if the threshold So it can't go below 50 percent. And it's a This is clearly a retention plan. So, what happened? What happened, Your Honor? 21 Mr. Evans testified that in June of 2012, the debtors 22 retained Kirkland and Ellis. 23 months, they retained Mr. Filsinger and Filsinger Energy 24 Partners. 25 compensation expert and that these professionals were 212-267-6868 A little later in the coming They expanded the scope of Towers Watson, their VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 135 of 205 Page 135 1 retained to, in fact, evaluate, look at the plans, and 2 determine how these plans would be treated in bankruptcy. 3 Mr. Evans testified that never before had they had 4 hired an energy expert or expanded the scope of Towers 5 Watson or retained counsel to review their plans. 6 solely because of the fact that they were going into 7 bankruptcy. 8 9 This was Now there should be no doubt that, in this Court's mind, that Mr. -- that K&E and Mr. Friske are fully versed 10 in how executive compensation plans are treated in 11 bankruptcy. 12 application and has already represented to the Court that 13 they did provide this independent advice and Mr. Friske 14 testified that he's been involved with structuring and 15 designing hundreds of these plans in and out of bankruptcy. K&E includes these services in its retention 16 So -- and, in addition, Your Honor, in a 17 declaration that was submitted in support of the non-insider 18 comp motions by Ms. Carey Kirby, the senior executive vice 19 president for human resources, which can be found at Tab 4 20 of your binder, but you don't need to go there, Ms. Kirby 21 confirms that the modifications that they made to change the 22 existing EFH Corp. Retention Award Plan were done with the 23 input of Towers Watson. 24 25 So what did the debtors do? Well, there were, at the time, a hundred and twenty-eight employees eligible 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 136 of 205 Page 136 1 under the plan. For those whom the debtors contended and 2 the U.S. Trustee with healthy discussions which we've had 3 throughout this case, determined not to object, those 4 employees were non-insiders, approximately a hundred at the 5 time. 6 called, the key leader plan. 7 evidence has borne out that the plan for the non-insiders do 8 not have an incentive component. 9 strictly a retention plan. They had their own plan. Their plan was similarly Debtors do not dispute and the They are strictly -- it is In support of the motion that I 10 had mentioned, the non-insider plans, Ms. Kirby, in her 11 declaration states that they "modified" the owner-operator 12 plan to -- and that again is the EFH Corp. Retention Award 13 Plan, I think, Your Honor understands that. 14 say that every single time. 15 quarterly payments to focus more on retention and that these 16 quarterly payments were more appropriate than a multiple 17 year program given the uncertainty of the debtors' 18 restructuring process. 19 I don't have to But that plan to include Ms. Kirby states at paragraph 23 that the 20 quarterly payments would improve employee morale and "create 21 stronger retention incentives." 22 Honor, was with respect to these non-insiders, the debtors 23 just did a new plan, called it the key leader plan, but made 24 it a straight retention plan. 25 insiders to that plan. 212-267-6868 So what happened, Your And they added 30 other non- Now, why did they do that? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com Well, 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 137 of 205 Page 137 1 Ms. Kirby tells us the answer. They added them to ensure 2 that they do not lose key employees who would be 3 particularly difficult to replace during this critical 4 period. 5 which is at Tab 4. That's at paragraph 22 of Ms. Kirby's declaration 6 So now the debtors have taken care of this hundred 7 non -- these are executives, higher level key people, to 8 take care of those hundred and they add 30 more people in 9 and they say, okay. It's a retention plan but we don't have 10 to call it anything other than that. 11 it's anything other than that because they're non-insiders 12 and the Bankruptcy Code treats non-insiders differently than 13 it does insiders. 14 We don't have to say So, now, what to do with the 19 remaining 15 participants under the former EFH Corp. Retention Award 16 Plan. 17 we're going to call this now the key leader performance plan 18 and we're going to institute the same quarterly payments 19 that we did for the other 130 non-insiders, which I will 20 repeat, that Ms. Kirby stated was done to, among other 21 things, create stronger retention incentives. 22 well, we're going to add an incentive component to this 23 plan. Well, what do the debtors do? 24 25 They say, okay, well, And they say, Now the key leader performance plan is at Tab 16 and I would ask the Court to please turn to that. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 138 of 205 Page 138 1 Well, here we are again with a plan that doesn't 2 contain the name that is used in all the papers but at least 3 here it's recognized to be a performance bonus plan. 4 what is the purpose? 5 Energy Future Holdings Corp. 2013 Performance Bonus Plan is 6 designed to align the interests of the company and eligible 7 key employees of the company and its subsidiaries. 8 effective date, at paragraph two, is October 7th, 2013. 9 is a brand new plan, Your Honor. 10 And It says, the amended and restated This is not a continuation, as they say. Its It So when 11 the word, continuation, works for the debtors to show that 12 it's a historical plan, there are no changes, it's the same 13 people, da, da, da, da da. 14 actual document shows it's a brand -- and, also, those 15 points are made to show, Your Honor, or to support the 16 argument that it's ordinary course. 17 don't think this is ordinary course and the facts in the 18 documents that the Court has accepted into evidence do not 19 support that. 20 effect October 7th, 2013. 21 That's okay. But then when the Well, Your Honor, I This is a brand new plan. It comes into At paragraph four, little (f), there's a 22 definition: 23 says performance goals means the performance goals 24 established for the company's annual incentive plan by the 25 committee with respect to a calendar quarter commencing 212-267-6868 performance goals. And what does it say? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com It 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 139 of 205 Page 139 1 during the term. 2 So, what they do, is they say, okay. We want to 3 still give this compensation to these 19 executives. 4 know if we have to call it what it is, we're going to have 5 to meet the standards of 503(c)(1). 6 we have no information, Your Honor, so I won't say one way 7 or the other, but I think one reason that they haven't 8 addressed that in this motion is there is the possibility 9 that they cannot satisfy those rigorous standards. 10 In fact, during Mr. Evans' testimony, he 11 testified, there's only one person that left the company and 12 that was two years ago. 13 ceiling motion, Mr. Dempsey stated that there were other 14 people who left the company but as Ms. Sarkesian 15 appropriately noted, Mr. Dempsey is not a witness and that 16 statements by counsel are not evidence. 17 We I don't believe -- and Now, in oral argument on the With respect to paragraph six, it talks about the 18 term of the participation and it says, subject to the 19 provisions of this plan, commencing with the calendar 20 quarter March 31, each plan participant shall earn a 21 quarterly performance bonus at the end. 22 this is the way get it, if, one, such participant remains 23 employed by the company group through the last date of the 24 applicable period and, two, the extent the performance goals 25 established for such performance period have been achieved, 212-267-6868 And that -- and VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 140 of 205 Page 140 1 provided that if the terms ends after the commencement and 2 before the end of the calendar quarter, each participant who 3 is then employed by the company shall earn a prorated amount 4 of the quarterly performance bonus for the quarter in which 5 the term ends. 6 It also says, as is different than what was 7 testified to by Mr. Burke, Mr. Burke testified that, well, 8 the participant has to be there, you know, for 30 days after 9 the quarter. So that would be four months. So if -- they 10 shortened the period of having to be there; however, the 11 plan allows for catch up. 12 not met, then they can still get it if the overall annual 13 performance metric is met. 14 So if the performance metric is But here's what the document says. It says, any 15 quarterly performance bonus required to be made under this 16 plan shall be paid by the company within 60 days after the 17 date of the participant earned -- after the date the 18 participant earned the right to such payment. 19 five months, Your Honor. 20 half a year, close to half a year, five months. So that's Now, we're starting to get into 21 And it also says a participant who's employment 22 with the company group terminates, and this is important, 23 for any reason, shall forfeit the right to any quarterly 24 performance bonus that has not been paid as of the date of 25 such termination. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 141 of 205 Page 141 1 I will go through with Your Honor in the other 2 plans and not try to not be interesting in doing that but 3 pointing out, you know, important provisions. 4 plans, there are certain circumstances under which you could 5 get a pro-rated portion of your award, not here. 6 But, in other The other thing that's interesting about this 7 document is paragraph seven which says that before the 8 commencement of each performance period, the committee shall 9 establish one or more performance goals that must be 10 achieved to earn a quarterly performance bonus for that 11 performance period. 12 required to, establish minimum targets and maximum targets 13 with respect to selected performance goals that provide for 14 the payment of a fraction or multiple of a participant's 15 quarterly performance bonus. 16 The committee may, but shall not be So, in this plan, they don't have to meet every 17 single one of the 21 metrics in the -- for the EAIP. 18 plan requires only one. 19 they can change it before the next term. 20 Your Honor, is that this key leader performance plan, which 21 certainly is an outgrowth of the former EFH Corp. Retention 22 Plan and it's just a way to try to get the same compensation 23 to these professionals, simply inserts performance, maybe 24 one or more, the debtors have the burden of proof to show 25 what they do for each, and they have not. 212-267-6868 And they can also change it. This So -- So what I suggest, But it certainly VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 142 of 205 Page 142 1 shows that they just inserted a performance metric that 2 already has to be met under another plan. 3 additional performance that's required in order for the 19 4 people under this plan to receive their bonuses. 5 There's no One thing for clarification, Your Honor, and that 6 is that it's been stated in testimony of some of the 7 witnesses and Mr. Sassower in his opening that the cost of 8 the plan is something like 2.5 million. 9 email from Will Gerary (ph), who's an attorney at Kirkland But there is an 10 and Ellis at Tab 22, that sets forth the actual cost of the 11 key leader performance program at 3,351,500 at target and 12 says this is also the max. 13 So just to clarify the record so we have the 14 numbers correct, these are the numbers that were provided to 15 us from the debtors. 16 statement that the SPC long-term incentive plan is 1.825 17 million. 18 We don't agree, Your Honor, with the And I will now turn to that plan. However, Your Honor, just before I get there, I'm 19 just trying to go back and forth the documents and my notes. 20 I just want to mention also, Your Honor, that with respect 21 to the key leader performance plan, there's also an 22 individual participation agreement that goes with that. 23 It's similar to the participation agreement that was with 24 the EFH Retention Award. 25 Your Honor will see, among other things, that at the top of 212-267-6868 It's at Tab 15, Your Honor, and VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 143 of 205 Page 143 1 page two, it provides that with respect to the performance 2 period, the eligible participant will have the ability to 3 earn between 50 percent and 100 percent of the baseline 4 quarterly performance attained -- both on attainment of the 5 threshold performance goal or the baseline performance goal 6 as applicable. 7 Well, I don't know what that is, Your Honor, and 8 the debtors haven't put that into evidence. I don't know 9 whether they're using the threshold or the baseline. But, 10 as I will get to when I discuss the EAIP, there certainly 11 are questions about the thresholds that have been set. 12 In addition, Your Honor, in this individual 13 performance agreement on page three, there's a section 14 called Terminations of Employment and it includes that in 15 the event that your employment with the company group is 16 terminated for any reason, you will forfeit your right to 17 receive any unearned portion of your performance award. 18 This plan, Your Honor, the key leader performance plan, is 19 truly a disguised perk and, Your Honor, should not permit 20 the debtors to make payments under it without having to meet 21 the strictures of 503(c)(1). 22 Certainly, they could have an opportunity to go 23 back, regroup, figure it out and, Your Honor knows the U.S. 24 Trustee worked with long hours with many of the fine lawyers 25 at Kirkland and Ellis on the non-insider compensation motion 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 144 of 205 Page 144 1 that was presented to Your Honor without objection and took 2 care of the compensation for over 5500 of the company's rank 3 and file. 4 them to the extent that they choose to do that and the Court 5 so finds. And we certainly would be willing to speak with 6 But it is clear that this is a plan, is one of 7 those plans, that judges who have looked at these plans, 8 have said that the Court should scrutinize very carefully. 9 And I apologize if it's somewhat tedious going through the 10 actual provisions of the plans but that's what they plans 11 say and they are what they say, retention award plans. 12 simply including a performance metric from another plan 13 that's already in existence doesn't then convert a retention 14 plan into an incentive plan. 15 And The long-term incentive plan retention awards. 16 This is the next -- you have to find this one too. 17 It's an exhibit to the employment agreements. 18 will turn to Tab 6 in the binder, I'm using this as an 19 example but debtors have represented to me and of the five 20 employment agreements that have been -- well, actually, I'm 21 not sure if all seven are in, I know that two of them are 22 redacted. 23 are for those SPC numbers, the strategy and policy committee 24 members, the top seven employees, there's not a page number, 25 Your Honor, but this is the amended and restated employment 212-267-6868 I did. If Your Honor But at least with respect to the five, and these VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 145 of 205 Page 145 1 agreement for James A. Burke. 2 It is dated March 31, 2014. And if Your Honor, pushes back a little bit, that 3 document is 17 pages and the next document is called Exhibit 4 1. 5 6 THE COURT: I'm sorry. I missed the exhibit number. 7 MS. SCHWARTZ: Certainly, Your Honor. 8 Exhibit 1. 9 the amended and restated employment agreement of 10 It's This is Tab 6 and the first document in Tab 6 is James Burke. 11 THE COURT: All right. 12 MS. SCHWARTZ: It's 17 pages. So if you get 13 through the 17 pages, you come to a document called Exhibit 14 I. 15 THE COURT: I got it. 16 MS. SCHWARTZ: 17 THE COURT: 18 MS. SCHWARTZ: Okay. Thank you. That document -- this is the SPC 19 long term incentive plan. Now, again, Your Honor, nowhere 20 on this document is it called the SPC long term incentive 21 plan. 22 and it talks in terms of three retention awards, Your Honor. At paragraph A it talks again about a retention award 23 The first retention award for Mr. Burke has 24 already been paid and so has the second retention award. 25 what we're looking at now, under the SPCL tip, as they call 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com So 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 146 of 205 Page 146 1 it, are -- is the third retention award. 2 at -- that's letter "A", III. 3 earn an additional long term cash bonus award in an amount 4 between 500,000 and one million per fiscal year determined 5 by the company's performance as indicated by the level of 6 the competitive management EBIDTA actually achieved for the 7 fiscal years ended December 31, 2012, December 31, 2013 and 8 December 31, 2014, relative to the competitive management 9 EBIDTA threshold and target amounts set by the board for 10 And that's Roman And it says, executives shall each respective fiscal year, the "third retention award". 11 For the achievement of the threshold level of the 12 competitive management EBIDTA in respect of such year, the 13 executive shall earn $500,000 for the achievement of at 14 least the target level of the competitive management EBIDTA 15 in respective of -- and each year. 16 one million, the third retention target award, for the 17 achievement of competitive management EBIDTA in between 18 threshold and target levels in respect of any such year. 19 Executives shall earn an amount between 500,000 and a 20 million as determined by linear interpellation. 21 The executive shall earn The third retention award, if earned, shall be 22 paid to executives in a lump sum on March 13, 2015 provided 23 that "subject to the provisions of subparagraph (a)(5) of 24 this Exhibit I, executive is employed by TXU Energy, the 25 company, or an affiliate thereof, on March 13, 2015." 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 147 of 205 Page 147 1 Now there's a little circuitous route that one has 2 to go through in reading the plan provisions but if you look 3 at (a)(5), it says that, in the event executive's employment 4 is terminated pursuant to Section 7(b), 7(c), 7(d) or 7(e), 5 you can get a pro rata award. 6 say? 7 agreement and look at what paragraph 7(a) says. 8 paragraph 7(a) refers to is where if there's termination of 9 employment by the company for cause or the executive due to 10 But what does paragraph 7(a) Well, you got to flip back to the actual employment And what voluntary resignation without good reason. 11 So, Your Honor, the employee has to stay with the 12 company for three years in order to get this retention 13 award. 14 don't stay for the three years and they resign, they don't 15 get it. 16 They're going to stay. 17 on March 31st, 2015 is $8.1 million. 18 $3 million. 19 $2.5 million. 20 Mr. O'Brien, Your Honor, has those numbers. 21 what they are. 22 And, Your Honor, with respect to this award, if they And, Your Honor, the retention awards are big. Mr. Young's retention award payable Mr. Keglevic's (ph) is Mr. Burke's is $3 million. Ms. Doray's (ph) is Mr. McFarland's is $3 million. Ms. Kirby and They're also They're sealed. But I'm telling you, Your Honor, these are big 23 numbers and these executives are going to stay to get these 24 amounts. 25 looking for third -- it might be a little earlier, which I 212-267-6868 They're also contained, Your Honor, at -- just VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 148 of 205 Page 148 1 think is a good demonstrative for the Court to look at -- 2 (inaudible - 2:49:51). 3 Now, as I'm looking for that, Your Honor, I will 4 say that when Mr. Sassower stated in his opening remarks 5 that the relief that the debtors seek are only related in 6 2014, related to 2014, and that the amount sought under the 7 SPC, which, as Your Honor knows is 1.85 million, well, that 8 doesn't actually reflect the total cost of the plan. 9 doesn't reflect the total that's going to be payable in It 10 March of 2015. 11 that he has found other -- first of all, Mr. Friske stated 12 that he's never before seen, never, none, before seen 13 letters of credit obtained by companies to assure payment of 14 bonuses. 15 And, Your Honor, Mr. Friske may have said I've never heard of it but I'm not an expert in 16 that area. 17 hundreds of plans has never seen it, I think that it's fair 18 to say, Your Honor, that's not -- that's not common in the 19 industry. 20 Mr. Dempsey that he has seen other instruments, like rabbi 21 trusts used to secure payments, but he never -- he's never 22 seen letters of credit. 23 cuff -- well, it was testimony. 24 I've been practicing bankruptcy law for 21 years, I've never 25 seen it. 212-267-6868 But certainly an expert who has reviewed He may have said on cross-examination by And, Your Honor, it was an off the He said about 50 percent. I don't believe that in the industry the evidence VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 149 of 205 Page 149 1 the debtors have carried their burden to show that it's 2 consistent in the industry. 3 I think it's problematic, Your Honor, that the 4 debtors did not include in their motion, or actually, let me 5 say it this way. 6 excepted from their motion authorization to be able to make 7 those payments. 8 that they don't need to. 9 already been obtained, et cetera. 10 I think it's problematic that they They'll make an argument before Your Honor It's ordinary course. The money's That will be for another day. 11 But what they're asking for you, asking you for 12 today is 1.85 million for two of their top seven executives. 13 And why are they asking you for that, Judge? 14 going to make those payments today. 15 until March, 2015. 16 make that because they want to make sure that those two 17 people stay. 18 They're part of the top seven. 19 afterward and the debtors, for whatever reason, in their 20 business judgment, did not decide to provide that certainty, 21 that Mr. Evans testified to, over and over again in his 22 deposition testimony as to why he has to deliver to these 23 people so that they don't worry about going home and how 24 they're going take care of the families. 25 that more than one time. 212-267-6868 They're not They're not making that They're asking you for authorization to Their bonuses are not in letters of credit. They joined the SPC He testified to VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 150 of 205 Page 150 1 He put into evidence, Your Honor, I mean, as is 2 clear in the evidence and the document submitted, all of the 3 top seven SPC, are paid very high salaries. 4 salaries for -- the actual salary for Ms. Doray is in one of 5 the exhibits. The actual Let me see if I can get that for you. 6 THE COURT: It's -- 7 MS. SCHWARTZ: 8 THE COURT: 9 MS. SCHWARTZ: Okay. It's at Tab 23. Yeah. At Tab 23, Ms. Doray's base salary 10 for 2014 is $600,000. 11 census data as part of the evidence that shows that the 12 median household income for a family of four in Texas is 13 about $53,000. 14 propriety of the salary et cetera. 15 draw the difference about having to take care of your 16 families, that there is an extreme difference, at least ten 17 times the salary that this executive's being paid, is ten 18 times the median income for a family of four. 19 Your Honor, we put into evidence So I'm not making a comment as to the But certainly one can Your Honor, with respect to the L tip program, in 20 addition, you have the same scenario. 21 compensation program with the same exact party. 22 Honor, as has been shown on the exhibit that was prepared by 23 Mr. Panacio that has been used by every party in this case, 24 the debtors' actual performance for the past five years, 25 they have met that number every year. 212-267-6868 It's another VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com And, Your 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 151 of 205 Page 151 1 The competitive management EBIDTA as was testified 2 to is a roll-up of those EBIDTA numbers and they've met it 3 for the past five years. 4 low of a threshold to show that that's a primarily 5 incentivizing plan. 6 Again, Your Honor, it's just to It's a retention plan. And, Your Honor, in addition, I don't want to 7 forget this -- I'll go quickly, Your Honor. I don't want to 8 forget this under 503(c)(3), giving the debtors authority to 9 pay that 1.8 million, which will, they say, it's been 10 earned. 11 earned -- well, they might say it's earned, but it cannot be 12 paid, it cannot be paid until March 31st, 2015. 13 Honor, if Ms. Doray or Ms. Kirby get poached, as the term 14 was used by Mr. Dempsey, they're not going to get that 15 bonus. 16 going to get $2.5 million. 17 No, it hasn't been earned, Your Honor. It's not So, Your They're not going to get the -- Ms. Doray's not I submit to Your Honor although this is a very big 18 case and I find that in bankruptcy cases, this happens all 19 the time, of course, as -- we get desensitized to these 20 numbers. 21 That's huge dollars, 2.5 million. Okay. In addition, Your Honor, it's not ordinary 22 course. 23 ordinary course. 24 before seen these letters of credit. 25 were put in place five years ago, in 2009, I don't believe 212-267-6868 Mr. Friske -- for the reasons I stated, it's not Mr. Friske has stated that he had never Although the plans VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 152 of 205 Page 152 1 it is ordinary course to obtain letters of credit. 2 believe that those actions were taken to provide assurance, 3 as Mr. -- we'll use Mr. Evans' testimony and his words, to 4 provide certainty, certainty, that they would, in fact, be 5 compensated as -- for these bonuses. 6 And I think there is certainty. I The thresholds 7 are low. They're low enough and based on the actual 8 performance in the past history, it's going to be met. 9 for all the time that the debtors, on the other side, have 10 side, these are not guaranteed. 11 There's no language that says they're guarantees, 12 guaranteed. 13 five years of performance. 14 So, I think that's right. But they certainly are likely based on the past Lastly, Your Honor, I'd like to address the 15 executive annual incentive plan. 16 Court and I'd like to thank my adversaries with respect to 17 the courtesies to allow and to permit the schedule for 18 Mr. Panacio and I think what we heard today, Your Honor, was 19 -- there were no surprises. 20 I'd like to thank the Mr. Panacio put together a chart which is now an 21 exhibit at Exhibit No. 36 and included in that chart 22 information provided by the debtors. 23 He puts it on a spreadsheet. 24 accountant. 25 He's an accountant. He uses Excel. My dad's an He writes me letters on -- in Excel. (Laughter.) 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 153 of 205 Page 153 1 MS. SCHWARTZ: 2 THE COURT: 3 MS. SCHWARTZ: He'll kill me for that one. Uh-huh. Anyway, so he put his spreadsheet 4 because he wanted to see, well, where do these numbers play 5 out. 6 And this was, I submit, a very helpful document. 7 asked to be used by the debtors' witnesses. 8 for everybody to get a look. What do they look like? 9 How can I understand that? It was It's helpful Now, it's true, Your Honor, that the debtors have 10 spent a lot of time trying to persuade the Court that a 11 straight calculation, taking the average of all the actual 12 performance, and comparing it to the threshold is not 13 appropriate. 14 the right numbers and it's not a fair reading. 15 You shouldn't do that because you don't get I think, Your Honor, that the debtors bear the 16 burden of proof to show that, and I may have not done that, 17 and I want to tell you why we think they have not done that. 18 First of all, with respect to the EBIDTA numbers, I mean, 19 Ms. Sarkisian went through this chart in step by step, 20 logical progression with Mr. Panacio and she elicited from 21 him all the numbers and what the percentages were in terms 22 of comparing the thresholds to the average of the actual 23 performance for the past five years, without disclosing the 24 EBIDTA numbers or the contribution margin. 25 those numbers. 212-267-6868 Your Honor has VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 154 of 205 Page 154 1 It is fair to say that the 2014 thresholds are 2 below the actual average or above depending upon whether 3 it's a cost or a revenue side, for the past five years and 4 sometimes substantially. 5 why that was with respect to EBIDTA by commenting on the 6 debtors' hedging program. 7 today, Your Honor, the debtors have not met their burden of 8 proof to show that the hedging program is a dollar for 9 dollar reduction on the EBIDTA numbers. Mr. McFarland sought to explain However, as we -- as I stand here The debtors have 10 not met their burden to show which hedging program they're 11 really talking about. 12 length, to obtain from Mr. Friske, the corporate hedge book 13 that he was discussing and talking about and had mentioned 14 in a chart in his 67 page report, Mr. Filsinger was unable 15 to give all the details with respect to the corporate hedge 16 book. 17 off the top of his head, that seemed to be consistent with 18 the first day presentation that Mr. Sassower had presented 19 on first day, as a demonstrative, at first day hearings. 20 However, Your Honor, as Your Honor knows, this When Mr. Schepacarter attempted, at Mr. McFarland, who was able to give the Court numbers 21 company has a large hedging and trading component, a very 22 large one. 23 the Court for their hedging and trading programs. 24 U.S. Trustee spent a lot of time with them because as part 25 of that hedging and trading program, they also had what the 212-267-6868 And, Your Honor, we had -- they made a motion to VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com And the 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 155 of 205 Page 155 1 debtors were calling proprietary trades. 2 acknowledge that it was one of the most complicated motions 3 to get the U.S. Trustee to understand, would be consistent 4 with the law, and reasonable under 345 and all of the other 5 Code sections that would apply. 6 Your Honor, we don't know what hedging they're talking 7 about. 8 9 So -- and they But as we stand here today, Now, Mr. Sassower says in his closing that he'd like to clarify the hedging for the Court. Again, Your 10 Honor, Mr. Sassower's not a witness. 11 although it may be helpful, is not evidence. 12 if -- when Mr. McFarlane says, "well, we made 1.8 million on 13 this particular corporate hedge book, and the next year we 14 only made 1 million, and therefore that affects the EBITDA." 15 He didn't say it was a dollar after dollar reduction. 16 don't know. 17 have not met their burden to show the Court that that is the 18 factor that affects their actual target and can show the 19 Court that the target -- that on their face, and as 20 demonstrated in Mr. Panacio's Exhibit 36 fall well below the 21 average actual performance for the past five years. 22 And what he says, We don't know We We just don't know, Your Honor, and the debtors Okay, now in addition, I would note, Your Honor 23 that -- another issue was that also was not fully put before 24 the Court was the impact that the hedging that Luminant does 25 really affects the TXU EBITDA. 212-267-6868 Mr. Burke said, or VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 156 of 205 Page 156 1 Mr. Filsinger said it affects it because TXU buys its power 2 from Luminant. 3 down, it affects it. 4 believe that the debtors have met their burden of proof to 5 explain why the hedging program, which is a Luminant hedging 6 program, affects the TXU EBITDA numbers such that they would 7 not, in fact, fall below the average performance for the 8 past five years. 9 So, if the amount of Luminant EBITDA is I'm sorry, Your Honor, but I don't And they have the obligation to do that. Now, another comment that was made by the debtors 10 was that there's a mountain of evidence before the Court. 11 There's a lot of evidence before the Court, but just because 12 there's a quantity of evidence doesn't mean that the debtors 13 have satisfied and explained these questions as to why their 14 thresholds should not be found by this Court to be too low, 15 and that the plan be found to be not primarily 16 incentivizing. 17 (Indiscernible). In addition, Your Honor, another 18 issue that Mr. Panacio had looked at had to do with 19 Mr. Friske's use, and the debtor's use of these peer groups, 20 the peer group. 21 testified to the Court that the peer group was not invented 22 by him. 23 had used this peer group for a long period of time. 24 Mr. Friske, "well, Mr. Friske, how did you determine that 25 these peer groups were, in fact, peer groups?" 212-267-6868 And as Your Honor may recall, Mr. Friske It was the debtor's peer group. And the debtors VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com I asked And he said 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 157 of 205 Page 157 1 he looked at the operations; he looked at various factors; 2 etcetera. 3 brought out to him, well, you know, it appears that -- we 4 asked him, have -- I asked him, "have any of the peer groups 5 used comparables that you're saying to support the debtors' 6 argument that it's consistent with industry standard? 7 any of these comparables in these companies, have they had 8 net income losses for the past four years?" 9 tell you? 10 Now one of the things that he said when we Are And what did he I don't know and it doesn't matter. Well, that's for the Court -- I think that's for 11 the Court to decide because we think it does matter as to 12 whether or not those are, in fact, comparable companies. 13 What he said was it's about talent, not about the 14 performance of the company. 15 generating a profit. 16 and he didn't consider that, but that it's about talent. 17 if you're (indiscernible - 3:07:26) company and somebody's 18 had a lot of experience, etcetera, that's what he looks for. 19 So I think that that is a problem with respect to the notion 20 that these are, in fact, peer groups and it's consistent 21 with industry standard. 22 It's not about whether they're You don't really need to look at that, So The other thing, Your Honor, is -- and I think it 23 was asked on cross of Mr. Panacio was an attempt to 24 criticize Mr. Panacio's analysis or diminish its usefulness 25 to the Court was did Mr. Panacio look -- did he look at the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 158 of 205 Page 158 1 compensation plans for all of these other companies? 2 said, frankly, no. And he Well, neither did Mr. Friske. 3 If Your Honor looks at Mr. Friske's declaration, 4 you're not going to see that he looked at the compensation 5 programs for all of these other companies. 6 that's not his testimony. 7 operations. 8 what he looked at when he looked at the peer groups to see 9 if they, in fact, had the same compensation plans as the He didn't. And What he said was, he looked at He's done a lot of these plans, but that's not 10 debtors. He said it's common to have more than one plan. 11 Compensation package, it's common that there's more than one 12 plan. 13 all the plans of the peer group companies. 14 fair to say, Your Honor, if their expert in compensation 15 didn't look at that, I'm not sure what weight Your Honor 16 should give that with respect to Mr. Panacio. But he didn't say that he went and looked at the -- 17 So I think it's And let's see -- Your Honor, I want to talk about 18 for a minute -- I want to talk about the risks. 19 been a lot of talk about the risks, and there's been a lot 20 of talk about how they can affect the metrics. 21 There's Now Mr. Filsinger's role in all of this, as 22 debtors concede, is very, very narrow. 23 to look at the metrics. 24 actual numbers of June because the debtors knew that in 25 order to get this executive annual incentive plan approved, 212-267-6868 His role was solely And what did he do? VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com He took the 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 159 of 205 Page 159 1 they were going to have to show that this plan was in fact 2 incentivizing. 3 June numbers. 4 numbers and did their own calculation as to what year to 5 date would be, notwithstanding that they didn't think that 6 Mr. Panacio's extrapolation of doubling the numbers was 7 appropriate and cited a couple of instances why that might 8 not have been, but they increased the thresholds, Your 9 Honor, of 18 -- of 21 of the metrics. 10 They had a problem. They already had their And so, when they looked at their June Mr. Evans testified they've never done that before 11 and he's been with the company since its beginning seven 12 years ago. 13 He's the chairman of the ONC for seven years. 14 did a mid-year review where they did a wholesale revision. 15 They did it, as he said, for the purpose of bankruptcy. 16 makes sense, Your Honor, that they did it because they have 17 very -- they have lots of professionals that want to be able 18 to get these plans approved by the Court, but it's not 19 ordinary course. 20 historical practice to do a mid-year, wholesale revision of 21 18 of the targets. 22 He's the chairman of the board for seven years. They never It It's not something they do in their I might be jumping around a little, Your Honor. 23 I'm tired and I'm trying to just get to the end of my -- the 24 points that I want to make sure I -- 25 THE COURT: 212-267-6868 I'm following you, that's fine. VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 160 of 205 Page 160 1 MS. SCHWARTZ: Thank you, Your Honor. 2 So I wanted to talk about the risks, Your Honor. 3 And that is -- you saw Mr. Evans and he testified that the 4 risks that are included in the debtors' motion, which when 5 one would read would say wow, that's a lot of variables as 6 to whether or not these metrics can and cannot be met. 7 Mr. McFarlane and Mr. Burke and Mr. Filsinger all provided 8 testimony about the risks and how the various, 9 uncontrollable aspects could affect the metrics. We heard a 10 lot about the weather and how they can't control the 11 weather. 12 And And as a layperson and not an energy expert, I 13 asked Mr. Evans, I said, "well, you have all of these risks, 14 right?" 15 read every single one of them. 16 all of the risks?" 17 Now, Mr. Burke said, "well, you know, you can't really look 18 at it that way because these risks play out differently." 19 And he tried to explain -- you did explain how weather could 20 play out differently, or outages will play out differently, 21 and there was some testimony about being -- maybe it 22 Filsinger that said they're eight hours behind on one of the 23 metrics and how critical that is. 24 25 And he -- and as I said in my opening, he made me And I said, "well, are these And he said, "yes, it's a good list." But at the end of the day, Your Honor, they have these risks every single year. 212-267-6868 And whether one plays out VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 161 of 205 Page 161 1 one way in one year and one plays out another way in another 2 year, the facts in evidence show you, Your Honor, that based 3 on the actual five year performance, and an average of that, 4 the thresholds that they've set under the EAIP, which 5 remember are the same numbers they're using for these other 6 two plans, are not -- they're lower. 7 So one of the things that Mr. Panacio did, and I 8 think it's helpful to the Court, it's certainly helpful to 9 show why there's a real question about whether these 10 thresholds are too low, is that in his declaration, and I'm 11 just going to grab it, in his declaration, I hope I have it 12 -- declaration, he took the numbers in his chart and he 13 compared based on the debtors' information in their 14 scorecards, which are at Tab 3 in the binder, he took the 15 information there and he compared the actual for 2009 EBITDA 16 of Luminant against the threshold for 2009 EBITDA for 17 Luminant. 18 2009, '10, '11, '12, '13. 19 took the numbers and he averaged it. 20 And he did it across the board for each year, He got those comparisons. He And what did he find? He found what he has said in footnote five of his 21 declaration, which is the following, "Luminant Management 22 EBITDA exceeded threshold and baseline by 20.86 percent and 23 4.74 percent respectfully -- respectively. 24 met. 25 and superior, by 42.42 percent, 13.54 percent, and 3.52 Superior was not TXU EBITDA exceeding -- exceeded threshold, baseline 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 162 of 205 Page 162 1 percent respectively. 2 Mr. Burke explained is a roll up of these other EBITDAs, 3 exceeding threshold and baseline by 22.68 percent and 2.26 4 percent respectively, superior was not met." 5 And business services EBITDA, which Well, with those percentages, it appears, Your 6 Honor, that that is significant evidence to show that these 7 thresholds are too low, and that they do not support a 8 finding by the Court that the threshold targets, 9 notwithstanding the well means and substantial efforts of 10 Mr. Filsinger to modify those targets in June and enhance 11 them, increase them, so that the debtors would stand a 12 better chance of the Court finding that the executive annual 13 incentive plan is, in fact, an incentive plan that falls 14 outside the scope of 503(c)(1). 15 have for Your Honor. 16 THE COURT: 17 I want to just say thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Mr. Sassower? 18 19 And I think that's all I MR. SASSOWER: For the record, Edward Sassower of Kirkland & Ellis on behalf of the debtors. 20 Your Honor, Ms. Schwartz spent half of her closing 21 quoting to various language in various documents. 22 the language that she quoted to, retentions award, and 23 retention, and retain, have one thing in common, none of 24 that language is before the Court. 25 binder are the owner/operator plan which has expired. 212-267-6868 All of Tab 17 and 19 in the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com It is 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 163 of 205 Page 163 1 not before the Court. 2 If you'll turn to the document I handed to you at 3 the end of my closing and turn to page 20, this is the SPCL 4 tip language that Ms. Schwartz was quoting to, and you can 5 see right there, squarely in the middle of that box is the 6 word "retention award." 7 Court. 8 is the language before the Court and you'll see it says 9 "supplemental incentive award". 10 But this language is not before the If you flip the page one page earlier, page 19, this Similarly, Ms. Schwartz spent a lot of time 11 quoting to the declaration of Ms. Kirby. That declaration 12 was submitted in connection with the key leader program, not 13 the key leader performance program, and the key leader 14 program is for non-insiders and is a retention-based 15 program. 16 leader program and the one before the Court, because for 17 that program, that's not that you've already approved for 18 non-insiders, it's retention-based. 19 around. 20 financial metrics in order to get paid. You don't get paid 21 a dollar if you do not hit the metrics. So that is a -- so 22 the declaration that Ms. Kirby submitted is entirely not 23 applicable here. But there is a huge distinction between that key You just have to stick For the one before the Court, you have to hit the 24 So I just -- it is a lot of documents. 25 lot of language being thrown around, and I just want to be 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com There's a 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 164 of 205 Page 164 1 clear that, you know, some of the debtors' prior programs 2 before the restructuring effort started, before they 3 commenced, before the Court -- before the debtors knew about 4 Section 503 of the Bankruptcy Code. 5 retention. 6 time based. 7 insiders have been stripped out and replaced with hard to 8 meet, incentive metrics. 9 plans that have expired that are not before the Court that You used the word You used the word retained. Some of them were All of those elements as they relate to I don't see how the fact that 10 mention the word retention that were put in place not in 11 connection with the restructuring, you know, are relevant 12 here. 13 You heard a bunch about how Mr. Evans said that 14 the company had never before revisited metrics in the middle 15 of the year, had never before hired restructuring 16 professionals to review their compensation plans. 17 company's never been through a restructuring before. 18 would they have hired restructuring professionals for 19 restructuring to review the plans? 20 a middle year was done in contemplation of the 21 restructuring. 22 going back to when the plans were first put in place and 23 saying, well, you're halfway through the year, you know, how 24 are you doing on those metrics? 25 thing, a thing that should be applauded, not criticized. 212-267-6868 Well, the Why Reviewing the metrics in We did not want to be criticized for people So we did the responsible VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com We 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 165 of 205 Page 165 1 went through each and every metric, and we increased 18 of 2 them. 3 a good thing, that's not a bad thing. 4 to reach, more incentivizing. The fact that we increased almost all of them, that's 5 We made them harder The -- at the very best, if you want to be, you 6 know, the most generous you could say is that Ms. Schwartz's 7 argument is that one of the plans, a key leader performance 8 program is not ordinary course and it should meet the Dana 9 factors because tying it to the owner/operator plan, even 10 though it has the same people, and the, you know, roughly 11 the same payout amounts, you know, if the metrics are hit, 12 it's still different because that plan includes a retention 13 -- an incentive component. 14 second. 15 I'll come back to that in a And so that one plan really shouldn't be viewed as 16 a successor to the owner/operator plan. 17 considered a new plan. 18 the test. 19 spend any of her time arguing that we haven't satisfied 20 those factors. 21 added, that little component says you don't get anything 22 unless you hit the metrics. 23 that little component is everything. 24 of it was based on incentive and half of it was based on 25 retention, and now the entire plan, the successor plan, is 212-267-6868 That one should be If it's a new plan, we still pass It's the Dana factors, and Ms. Schwartz didn't And this little incentive component that we So I don't -- it changed its -Before the plan, half VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 166 of 205 Page 166 1 based on incentive. 2 a game changer. 3 That's not a little component. That's On the EIAP, the third plan, Ms. Schwartz didn't 4 spend really any time talking about the language. 5 more time talking about the relevant targets. 6 to repeat all the things I said previously, just a couple of 7 notes. 8 the hedging program and I'm not a witness, but everything I 9 said was said by a witness. 10 She spent I don't want Ms. Schwartz said that I testified to the amounts in All of those numbers are in evidence, through Mr. Filsinger, through Mr. McFarlane. 11 Ms. Schwartz said that Mr. Friske did not review 12 the compensation plans of all those other companies. 13 Ms. Schwartz and her colleagues never asked that question to 14 Mr. Friske. 15 words in Mr. Friske's mouth saying -- assuming they asked 16 him and he answered no, when it's our understanding that he 17 actually did review all of those plans. 18 tower survey of those compensation plans of those companies. 19 That's testifying from the podium, just to put That's based on a With that, Your Honor, I think I -- I don't want 20 to repeat some of my prior comments. 21 couple in the courtroom who did want to speak in addition to 22 myself and Ms. Schwartz. 23 THE COURT: 24 MS. MORGAN: 25 very brief. 212-267-6868 I do think there are a So -- Okay, briefly, Ms. Morgan. Good afternoon, Your Honor. I'll be Pauline Morgan from Young, Conaway, Stargatt & VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 167 of 205 Page 167 1 Taylor. 2 TCEH first lien creditors, largest creditor constituency in 3 the case. 4 After considering and reviewing the U.S. Trustee's objection 5 and the evidence we've heard for two and a half days, we 6 still support it. 7 clearly met their burden and have demonstrated that the 8 plans are not primarily retentive, that the performance 9 metrics were well thought out, and that management is 10 I'm here today on behalf of the ad hoc committee of We did file a statement in support of the motion. Your Honor, we believe the debtors have appropriately challenged to meet them. 11 Frankly, Your Honor, our view is that the debtors' 12 business judgment here, including the comprehensive process 13 undertaken to develop these plans and metrics, and then to 14 modify and refine them, is frankly exemplary. 15 the facts and circumstances of this case require that the 16 plan participants have market-based, competitive 17 compensation packages to incentivize them, to drive for 18 success, and to maximize creditor recoveries. 19 committee is in support of the debtors' management team and 20 we would like them to be properly compensated and 21 incentivized. 22 expert testimony you've heard, as well as the fact testimony 23 you've heard, that the plans and metrics here are, in fact, 24 appropriate, incentive-based compensation bonuses for this 25 company. 212-267-6868 Your Honor, The ad hoc And, Your Honor, we think that based on the And for those reasons, Your Honor, we ask that the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 168 of 205 Page 168 1 Court approve the motion. 2 THE COURT: 3 MR. BIRD: Thank you. Good afternoon, Your Honor. John Bird 4 of Fox Rothschild on behalf the ad hoc group, the TCEH 5 unsecured noteholders. 6 for the three days of trial. 7 agreement that was reached between the unsecured group and 8 the debtors, that the Court granting the relief sought under 9 the compensation motion is without prejudice to any I'm sorry Mr. Shore couldn't make it He asked me to convey an 10 preference claim concerning pre-petition payments or 11 transfers. 12 entry of this order. 13 THE COURT: With that understanding, we have no objection to Thank you. Anyone else? All right, 14 I'm going to take a recess to gather my final thoughts, and 15 come out and provide a ruling that I've been working on, 16 that I've been refining throughout today and will continue 17 to refine it during the break. 18 and I'll provide my ruling at that time. 19 (Chorus of thank you) 20 (Recess) So let's reconvene at 4:30 21 THE CLERK: All rise. 22 THE COURT: Please be seated. All right. I'm 23 ready to give my ruling. 24 it's going to become somewhat obvious, I spent a lot of time 25 thinking about the evidence and forming this ruling and it's 212-267-6868 I'm going to read I think because VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 169 of 205 Page 169 1 based on all of the evidence, including the evidence that 2 came in today and the opposing arguments. 3 on refining it, so I'll get started. 4 I've been working Before the Court is the debtors' motion to approve 5 three compensation plans applicable to the debtor's senior 6 management, all of whom are insiders for purposes of this 7 motion. 8 as no objections were filed to that plan it's not being 9 discussed here. 10 There's a fourth plan discussed in the motion, but The three plans before the Court are one, the 11 executive annual incentive plan or EAIP, two the key leader 12 performance plan and three, the portion of the strategic 13 planning committee long-term incentive plan for 2012 through 14 2014 also known as the LTIP. 15 The debtors' argue that all three plans were 16 adopted in the ordinary course of business and are primarily 17 incentive, as opposed to retention plans, thus meeting the 18 standard for approval articulated in this Court's opinion in 19 Nellson Nutraceutical 369 B.R. 787. 20 The Office of the United States Trustee has 21 objected. 22 incentive plans, but rather retentive and thus are subject 23 to the limitations of 503(c)(1), which governs retention 24 plans for insiders, a standard that the debtors acknowledge 25 they cannot meet. 212-267-6868 The trustee argues that the plans are not VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 170 of 205 Page 170 1 In addition the trustee argues that the plans were 2 not adopted in the ordinary course of business and assuming 3 they are incentive plans, the applicable law Section 4 503(c)(3) which requires that the plans be justified by the 5 facts and circumstances of the case, a standard that the 6 trustee argues the debtors have failed to meet. 7 The Court will grant the debtors' motion and 8 overrule the trustee's objection in its entirety. As will 9 be discussed in some detail shortly, the Court finds that 10 the evidence overwhelmingly supports a finding that the 11 EAIP, key leader performance plan and LTIP are incentive 12 plans. 13 (Indiscernible - 4:35:29) with all such plans, 14 there is a retentive element to each. 15 incentivizing or motivational in nature, thus Section 16 503(c)(1) is not applicable. 17 were adopted in the ordinary course of business and are to 18 be governed under the deferential standard applied to such 19 actions. 20 adopted outside the ordinary course of business. 21 that plan is subject to Section 503(c)(3) of the Bankruptcy 22 Code and may only be approved if justified by the facts and 23 circumstances of the case. 24 25 They are primarily In addition, the EAIP and LTIP The key leader performance plan, however, was As such, There is some disagreement between courts as to the correct and the manner, excuse me, as to the correct 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 171 of 205 Page 171 1 manner in which to apply the facts and circumstances test. 2 Some courts including in this district have stated that it 3 is nothing more than another way to implement the business 4 judgment standard applicable to transactions outside of the 5 ordinary course of business under Section 363(b). 6 in the case of in re: Dana Corporation, 358 B.R. 567, the 7 late Judge Lifland articulated six factors that courts 8 should consider in determining whether a compensation plan 9 meets the outside the ordinary course of business standard. 10 Other courts, most notably, the Northern District 11 of Texas in the case of in re: Pilgrim's Pride Corp. at 401 12 B.R. 229, have adopted a more stringent standard. 13 specifically adopting either test for the avoidance of doubt 14 in this case, the Court will apply the most stringent test 15 identified to judge such plans under Section 503(c)(3), the 16 Pilgrim's Pride test. 17 Moreover Without Moreover, the Court will apply that test to all 18 three plans, including the EAIP and LTIP that the Court 19 nonetheless finds were implemented in the ordinary course of 20 business. 21 After applying the most stringent test identified 22 by any court to measure insider incentive plans adopted 23 outside the ordinary course of business to the EAIP key 24 leader performance plan and the LTIP, I find that each plan 25 easily and overwhelmingly meets the standard. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com It is not a 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 172 of 205 Page 172 1 close call. 2 While Mr. Filsinger did not find the debtors' coal 3 plants to be gold plated, I find that these incentive plans 4 define the gold standard. 5 this case are not primarily incentive plans and/or did not 6 meet the justified by the facts and circumstances test, then 7 it is hard to imagine how any plan could. 8 9 The debtors' plans at issue in To begin, based upon the exhibits in evidence and the testimony of the witnesses, which will be discussed in 10 more detail shortly, I will describe each of the 11 compensation plans before the Court. 12 Each of the plans has the same basic structure. 13 Under each plan, the debtors' selected performance metrics 14 that were designed to measure management's job performance. 15 Those metrics were weighted to reflect the debtors' judgment 16 as to which metrics have more impact in measuring 17 management's performance. 18 The debtors' then established targets for each 19 metric designed to challenge management to perform at the 20 highest level. 21 categories in increasing difficulty as threshold, baseline 22 and superior. 23 depends upon reaching those targets on a weighted basis. 24 25 Those targets were generally placed in three Management's entitlement to receive a bonus If the threshold target is not reached, management does not receive a bonus. 212-267-6868 If management achieves the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 173 of 205 Page 173 1 baseline target, the bonus increases and the maximum bonus 2 is awarded if the superior target is reached. 3 metrics, they're weighting and the performance targets are 4 known as the scorecard. 5 These Furthermore, each individual is assigned a 6 personal modifier that is applied to the bonus amount 7 awarded under the plan generally. 8 of the annual incentive plan that was established in or 9 about 2004. The EAIP is the outgrowth The AIP, as it applies to non-insiders was 10 previously approved by the Court. 11 all 26 insiders subject to the motion. 12 The EAIP is applicable to The scorecards are divided into three categories 13 to measure the performance at TXUE Luminant and the holding 14 company. 15 metric and the weight are in the record and I won't belabor 16 this ruling by going through them one by one. 17 The details of the identity of each performance I would note, however, there is one variation with 18 the scorecards in that Luminant -- at Luminant certain 19 management employees have a separate performance metric than 20 others and that's one linked to safety. 21 The targets for the performance metrics are set at 22 threshold, baseline and superior. 23 record and too detailed also to discuss in this ruling. 24 25 The specifics are in the The most significant fact is that in June 2014, the threshold targets were toughened for all of the TXUE 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 174 of 205 Page 174 1 performance metrics, other than average days sales 2 outstanding and the baseline for residential and end 3 customer count was also toughened. 4 At Luminant, all of the threshold performance 5 metrics were toughened as were three of the baseline and two 6 of the superior metrics. 7 Other than EFH Business Service costs, the 8 performance metrics at the business service level dropped 9 down from TXUE and Luminant, so as the TXUE and Luminant 10 targets were toughened, so were the business service 11 targets. 12 The performance targets were toughened because the 13 debtors had better than expected results for the first six 14 months of the year. 15 of the year with the bonuses, at least at the lower levels 16 assured the debtors' toughened those targets so management 17 would continue to be challenged to perform at a high level. 18 Rather than going into the second half The potential cost of the EAIP is 5.9 million at 19 threshold, 7.9 million at baseline and 15.9 million at 20 superior. 21 The key leader performance plan is a new program 22 for 2014. 23 operator plan put in place in 2010. 24 persons, which are management subject to the motion, except 25 for the seven members of the debtors' strategic planning 212-267-6868 It is an outgrowth of the so-called owner It is applicable to 19 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 175 of 205 Page 175 1 committee comprised of the debtors' most senior management. 2 The key leader performance plan metrics are tied 3 to overall company performance, competitive management, 4 EBITDA and competitive total spent. 5 service targets, these targets were toughened by the changes 6 at the TXUE and Luminant targets. 7 As with the business The potential total cost of the key leader 8 performance plan is 1.7 million at threshold and 2.56 9 million at baseline. 10 The strategic planning committee, long-term 11 incentive plan or LTIP applies to the seven members of the 12 debtors' strategic planning committee, John Young, EFH CEO, 13 Jenny Burke, TXUE CEO, Stacy Duray, Executive 14 Vice-President, general counsel and co-CRO, Paul Keglevic, 15 Executive BP, CFO and co-CRO, Carrie Kirby (ph), Executive 16 Vice-President, human resources. 17 CEO and John O'Brien, Executive VicePresident, public policy 18 and external affairs. 19 Mac McFarland, Luminant's The LTIP is a three year plan for 2012 through 20 2014. The bonuses for 2012 and 2013 under the LTIP have 21 already been earned through the debtor performance for those 22 years. 23 The 2014 term is obviously still in progress. The bonus payments that come due under the LTIP 24 are secured by letters of credit. 25 seeking, at this time, authorization to make bonus payment 212-267-6868 The debtors are not VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 176 of 205 Page 176 1 subject to the letters of credit and indeed may never seek 2 such authorization. 3 What is before the Court is that portion of bonus 4 payments not secured by letters of credit for two employers, 5 Ms. Duray and Ms. Kirby. 6 The performance metric for the LTIP is competitive 7 management EBITDA, the target for which was toughened by the 8 toughening of the EBITDA targets at TXUE and Luminant. 9 The total cost of the LTIP before the Court, i.e. 10 for Ms. Duray and Ms. Kirby is approximately $1.8 million. 11 The cumulative amount the debtors are seeking approval of 12 the this motion is approximately 7.6 million at threshold, 13 12.3 million at baseline and 20.3 million at superior. 14 In addition to the exhibits admitted into 15 evidence, the debtors submitted the testimony of four 16 witnesses in support of their motion. 17 TXUE, which is the debtors' retail energy company. 18 McFarland, CEO of Luminant, which is the debtors' mining and 19 power generation company, Doug Frisk, who is an expert on 20 compensation and Todd Filsinger who is an expert on the 21 energy business. 22 Jen Burke, CEO of Mac Mr. Burke and Mr. McFarland testified as to the 23 complicated and challenging nature of the debtors' 24 businesses, the history and current make up of the 25 compensation plans, the reasons for the selection in 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 177 of 205 Page 177 1 weighing of the performance metrics that serve as the 2 targets for the compensation plans, which is referred to as 3 the score card, the bottom up budgeting process in 2013 by 4 which the debtors' ultimately determined the performance 5 metrics and scorecard for 2014, the challenging nature of 6 the targets established in 2013, the debtors' better than 7 expected performance in the first half of 2014, the 8 toughening of the 2014 targets in June and the reasons 9 therefore and the continuing, if not increased, challenging 10 nature of the toughened targets for 2014. 11 They also testified at length about the evolution 12 of the debtors' business over time, the negative effect on 13 certain performance metrics as a result of the tailing off 14 of the debtors' extremely beneficial hedging transactions 15 established in 2006 and 2007 and the seasonal nature of the 16 debtors' business that makes it impossible to fairly judge 17 the debtors' 2014 performance by simply comparing the 2014 18 performance metrics to the debtors actual results for the 19 previous five years or by doubling the debtors' performance 20 for the first half of 2014. 21 Mr. Friske testified as an expert with regard to 22 the compensation plans. 23 compared them to the debtors' previous plan, which are 24 identical with a few exceptions. 25 leader performance plan is a new plan for 2014 that is a 212-267-6868 He described each of the plans and One, the debtors' key VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 178 of 205 Page 178 1 continuation of the previous owner/operator plan. 2 unlike the owner/operator plan which was 50/50 with regard 3 to incentive and retention, the key leader performance plan 4 is based 100 percent on reaching performance targets. 5 Three, the payment period under the key leader performance 6 plan has been switched from semi-annually to quarterly, and 7 four, the 2014 targets for all three plans were toughened in 8 June 2014, which was the first time the debtors had made any 9 mid-year adjustments to its performance metrics. 10 Two, Notwithstanding these changes, Mr. Friske opined 11 that the plans were substantially identical to their 12 previous iterations. 13 plans to those of comparable companies. 14 Mr. Friske also compared the debtors' Mr. Friske testified that the plans were 15 substantially similar to the compensation plans of those 16 comparable companies, in particular that the use of EBITDA 17 to judge business performance as opposed to, for example, 18 net income was consistent with industry practice and those 19 of the comparable companies or peer group. 20 Mr. Filsinger testified at length as an expert as 21 to the nature of the debtors' business, the relevance of the 22 performance metrics and their challenging nature based upon 23 industry performance as well as the debtors' past 24 performance. 25 Mr. Filsinger also persuasively testified that the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 179 of 205 Page 179 1 debtors' historical performance was above industry average 2 and in many instances, well above average. 3 Significantly, he cautioned that the debtors' 4 assets have a finite attainable performance level and that 5 setting performance metrics too high based upon prior 6 results can be counterproductive. 7 He further testified that exceeding industry 8 averages at the levels established in the debtors' 9 performance metrics, even if the debtors have previously met 10 similar levels. 11 Moreover he testified that it is appropriate to 12 build in some cushion for risky, finite and in some 13 instances, seemingly minor events that might have a huge 14 affect on performance. 15 these types of events, these type of events, the most 16 striking of which to the Court is the $2 million negative 17 affect to Luminant's EBITDA that results from everyday that 18 the debtors' Comanche nuclear power plant is offline. 19 He provided numerous examples of On cross-examination, Mr. Filsinger testified at 20 length as to the historically beneficially effect of the 21 debtors' hedging program implemented in 2006 and 2007 that 22 has since run off and is not replicable as well as to the 23 debtors' current risk management hedging program, which is 24 substantial and potentially beneficial, but simply cannot 25 replicate the success and impact of the historical hedging 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 180 of 205 Page 180 1 program. 2 In response to the trustee's questioning regarding 3 the repetitive nature of certain risks that exist every 4 year, such as weather, which is obviously outside, to 5 control the debtors, he testified that it's not that the 6 debtors can never predict weather changes, it's how the 7 debtors' plan for these changes. 8 9 For example, it is expensive to over hedge the purchase of power at TXUE and expensive to buy power at spot 10 market, so management must perform a balancing act in the 11 face of unpredictability. 12 The same can be said for bad debt from consumers. 13 If a customer's bill is high as a result of bad weather, 14 then the risk of non- payment increases. 15 for power does not necessarily mean a huge boon for the 16 debtors. 17 possibly customers leaving to go to another power provider 18 because the bill is higher. 19 So a larger demand It leads to a higher level of non-payment and It is management's successful balance between 20 hedging power purchases, buying power in the spot market and 21 customer satisfaction and payment, for example, which is 22 being measured and rewarded. 23 Each of the debtors' witnesses were entirely 24 credible and the trustee's cross-examination had, at most, 25 negligible adverse affect on the substance or credibility of 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 181 of 205 Page 181 1 the testimony. 2 The Court found Mr. McFarland and Mr. Filsinger to 3 be particularly competent and credible witnesses, although 4 as just stated, all four witnesses were credible and 5 persuasive. 6 The debtors and the trustee both designated 7 portions of the deposition testimony of the debtors' 8 chairman of the board Donald Evans (ph), the former United 9 States Secretary of Commerce. 10 Mr. Evans is also chairman of the operations and compensation or O & C committee. 11 The Court reviewed the deposition testimony in 12 both video and transcript form. 13 the importance of the compensation plans, albeit, with more 14 emphasis on their retentive affects than the other 15 witnesses. 16 management team and the importance of establishing 17 challenging, but achievable targets. 18 Mr. Evans testified about He also testified at length about the quality of Mr. Evans testified that as chairman of the board, 19 he seeks management in a competitive market, so he must 20 create employment and compensation packages to entice good 21 management to accept employment and to remain with the 22 debtors. 23 this retentive portion with the need to maximize the value 24 of the debtors' enterprise for their creditors, which means 25 that certain financial targets must be established and met. 212-267-6868 But Mr. Evans testified that he has to balance VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 182 of 205 Page 182 1 He also testified that the incentive plans are 2 particularly important as his management team did not 3 receive annual salary increases in 2014. 4 Mr. Evans was a credible witness. 5 The trustee's argument that Mr. Evans -- Mr. 6 Evans' testimony established that the plan were retentive, 7 not incentive, is not borne out by the record. 8 9 The use of the term layup, for example, at various points by Mr. Evans was not significant. And while he 10 focused more on the retentive effects of the plans than the 11 other witnesses, he also stressed the significant importance 12 of the incentive affect of the plans. 13 in no way supports a conclusion that the plan is a primarily 14 retentive in effect. 15 Mr. Evans' testimony Finally, in addition to the exhibits admitted into 16 evidence and the depositions designations of Mr. Evans, the 17 trustee submitted the testimony of Michael Panacio an 18 accountant and analyst with the Office of the United States 19 Trustee to provide lay witness opinion testimony under 20 Federal Rule of Evidence 701 as to a mathematical analysis 21 he performed of the debtors' performance metrics and 22 targets. 23 Mr. Panacio presented a simple mathematical 24 analysis of the debtors' plans in which he compared the 2014 25 performance metrics and targets to the debtors' average 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 183 of 205 Page 183 1 performance over the last five years. 2 He also compared the 2014 targets to his projected 3 2014 results, which he established by doubling the debtors' 4 actual performance through June 2014. 5 This analysis demonstrated that the debtors' 6 actual results for the last five years routinely bettered 7 the 2014 threshold targets and in certain instances, the 8 baseline or superior targets. 9 in certain instances, that the 24 -- in certain instances, In addition, it showed that 10 that the 2014 projected results exceed the debtors' 2014 11 threshold and/or baseline targets. 12 The testimony of the debtors' fact and expert 13 witnesses as well as the cross-examination of Mr. Panacio 14 largely discredited this analysis. 15 things, the complex evolving nature of the debtors' 16 business, the loss of the historical hedging program, the 17 cancellation of hedging transactions as a result of the 18 bankruptcy filing, the refueling of the Comanche nuclear 19 power plant in the second half of 2014, the variation in 20 power prices, and the seasonal nature of the business. 21 Neither of Mr. Panacio's approaches to analyzing the 22 debtors' business is accurate or particularly helpful. 23 Given, among other Mr. Panacio also compared the performance of the 24 debtor versus those comparable companies selected by Mr. 25 Friske for which information was available in three 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 184 of 205 Page 184 1 categories, operating revenue, net income and long-term 2 debt. 3 The data revealed that unlike the comparable 4 companies, with two minor exceptions, the debtors' have 5 suffered net income losses in 2011 through 2013. 6 The problem with this approach is that the net 7 income loss is a result of the debtors being greatly over 8 leveraged. 9 to perform at a high level over what it can control. 10 net income measures something outside the control of 11 management, the debtors' significant debt. 12 The point of the plan is to motivate management Use of The only comparable company with a similar debt 13 load is Duke Energy, which is positive net income, but 14 almost triple the debtors' revenues. 15 levels, the debtors' net income losses would have been 16 reduced if not eliminated. 17 At those revenue Moreover, Mr. Panacio inaccurately focused on net 18 income rather than interest expense. 19 Duke Energy had a comparable level of long-term debt, his 20 interest expense was well below that of the debtors'. 21 For example, while Indeed, all of the comparable companies would have 22 the net income loss if they had interest expense at the 23 debtors' level. 24 income is supported by the record. 25 The debtors' use of EBITDA rather than net Based on the foregoing, the Court will apply no 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 185 of 205 Page 185 1 weight to Mr. Panacio's testimony. 2 At the end of the day, the debtors have presented 3 a thorough, persuasive and virtually unblemished record in 4 support of their motion. 5 Now to the law, the Court's analysis starts with 6 Section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code. Section 503(c)(1) 7 limits retention payments that can be made to insiders of a 8 debtor, specifically it provides subject to certain 9 exceptions not applicable in this case that "There shall 10 neither be allowed nor paid a transfer made to or an 11 obligation incurred for the benefit of an insider of the 12 debtor for the purpose of inducing such person to remain 13 with the debtors' business." 14 15 There is no dispute that if section 503(c)(1) is applicable, the debtors' motion must be denied. 16 This Court has previously held in Nellson 17 Nutraceutical that Section 503(c)(1) only applies if 18 payments are made for the primary purpose of inducing a 19 person to remain with the debtors' business. 20 way, section 503(c)(1) is not applicable if the primary 21 purpose of the payments -- or in this case, the EAIP, key 22 leader performance plan and LTIP -- are primarily for 23 motivating or incentivizing the employees covered under the 24 plans. 25 Put another As discussed earlier, the Court finds that the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 186 of 205 Page 186 1 evidence overwhelmingly supports a finding that each of the 2 plans is primarily an incentive plan and any retentive 3 effects, while present, are incidental. 4 Let me pause here for a moment to address an 5 argument raised by the trustee. 6 fact that employees are not paid their bonuses immediately 7 upon the closing of the applicable period renders the 8 payments retentive. 9 The trustee argues that the In this case, the delay may be between one to 10 three months. 11 effect if one earns a bonus on December 31st and is not paid 12 that bonus until March and if that employee would not be 13 entitled to payment unless he or she were still an employee 14 on the payment date. 15 in the interim period would need to consider the lost bonus 16 payment in the calculus of making that decision, but that in 17 and of itself, does not render a payment or compensation 18 plan primarily retentive. 19 There can be no question there is a retentive Indeed, any employee who would leave A delay between earning a payment and receiving a 20 payment is not unusual. 21 payment, delayed or otherwise, unless the incentive targets 22 are reached. 23 Moreover, there is no right to The primary point of the plans at issue is to 24 motivate employees to meet the targets in 2014. 25 retentive affect that arises in the gap period between 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com The 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 187 of 205 Page 187 1 earning a payment a receiving it is incidental. 2 Also the trustee argues that the use of the words 3 retention or retain in certain of the debtors' documents 4 renders the plans retentive. 5 The Court disagrees. First, much of the language quoted is in 6 connection with the owner operator plan that is not before 7 the Court. 8 9 Second, the language, excuse me, the retention language is being read in isolation and out of context. 10 language and references are surrounded by language 11 referencing the purpose of incentivizing or motivating 12 employees. 13 The Third, even when viewed with skepticism, what 14 matters is the substance, not the title. 15 the the substance supports a finding the plans are primarily 16 incentive plans. 17 As I just stated, Third (sic), the trustee argues that the owner 18 operated plan was a retention plan and that the changes from 19 it to the key leader performance plan are insufficient to 20 make the key leader performance plan an incentive plan. 21 Although it is not before me, it appears to the 22 Court that the owner/operator plan was primarily a retention 23 plan, but the Court disagrees that the changes that resulted 24 in the key leader performance plan were insufficient to 25 remove the retentive elements. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 188 of 205 Page 188 1 The key leader performance plan is 100 percent 2 based on hitting incentive targets. 3 are incidental. 4 The retentive elements Having determined that none of the three 5 compensation plans are primarily retentive, the Court moves 6 on to determining whether the debtors' adoption of the plans 7 is inside the ordinary course of the debtors' business. 8 so, section 503(c)(3), which will be discussed in detail 9 later, is not applicable and the Court will not entertain an If 10 objection to the transaction provided that the conduct 11 involves a business judgment made in good faith upon a 12 reasonable basis and within the scope of authority under the 13 code. 14 Put another way, the Court will not disturb a 15 transaction within the ordinary course of business if the 16 debtor can articulate reasons for its conduct as distinct 17 from a decision made arbitrarily or (indiscernible - 18 5:00:07). 19 The standard governing a determination whether or 20 not a transaction falls in the ordinary course of business 21 is well established. 22 Inc., 975 F.2nd. 949, the Third Circuit adopted a two-step 23 inquiry. 24 25 In the case of in re: Roth American This inquiry consists of looking at the transaction from horizontal and vertical dimensions. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com The 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 189 of 205 Page 189 1 test for the horizontal dimension is whether from an 2 industry wide perspective, the transaction is of the sort 3 commonly undertaken by companies in that industry. 4 The vertical dimension, which is also known as the 5 creditors' expectation test, analyzes the transactions from 6 the vantage point of a hypothetical creditor and the inquiry 7 is whether the transaction subjects the creditor to an 8 economic risk of a nature different from those he accepted 9 when he decided to extend credit. 10 Under the vertical test, the touchstone of 11 ordinariness is the interested parties' reasonable 12 expectations of what transactions the debtor in possession 13 is likely to enter in the course of business. 14 Thus, the debtors' pre-petition business practices 15 and conduct is the primary focus of the vertical analysis. 16 The Court must also consider the changing circumstances 17 inherent in the hypothetical creditor's expectations. 18 In this case, with regard to the EAIP and LTIP 19 plans, the debtors have satisfied both the horizontal and 20 vertical dimensions and the programs were adopted in the 21 ordinary course of the debtors' business. 22 the key leader performance plan, however, while the debtors 23 have satisfied the horizontal test, they have not passed the 24 vertical test. 25 With regard to Starting with the horizontal test, Mr. Friske's 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 190 of 205 Page 190 1 testimony clearly established that to paraphrase Roth 2 American, from an industry wide perspective the EAIP key 3 leader performance plan and LTIP plan are the sort of 4 transactions that are commonly undertaken by companies in 5 the industry. 6 In response, the trustee makes two primary 7 arguments. First, she argues that the LTIP program fails 8 the horizontal test, because some of the payments, albeit, 9 not the ones directly before the Court, are secured by 10 letters of credit, a mechanism Mr. Friske testified he has 11 never seen. 12 Holding aside that the letters of credit payments 13 are not before the Court the use of them does not render the 14 program or plan outside of industry norms. 15 Friske testified that approximately 50 percent of long-term 16 incentive plans provide some security for payment, usually 17 in the form of rabbi or other types of trusts. 18 of security is secondary to its use. 19 management negotiated for the issuance of letters of credit 20 is not determinative. Indeed, Mr. The manner The fact that 21 Second, the trustee argues that the proper peer 22 group for comparison should be companies in Chapter 11 or 23 otherwise undergoing financial restructuring. 24 disagreed and the Court concurs in that judgment. 25 in Roth American is the industry, not the financial 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com Mr. Friske The focus 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 191 of 205 Page 191 1 condition of the peer group. 2 a whole, the analysis covers the wide range of financial 3 health in that industry. 4 By looking at the industry as Moreover, the question is what type of incentive 5 plans are necessary and appropriate to attract managers that 6 can successfully run a company of this size and nature. 7 Limiting of the peer group companies to those in 8 restructuring may make sense in the context of hiring a 9 chief restructuring officer, for example, but not in 10 designing compensation plans for operational and senior 11 management. 12 With regard to the vertical test, I would first 13 discuss the EAIP and LTIP programs. 14 there is only one difference between the pre-petition and 15 post-petition plans. 16 to better than expected results in the first half of 2014, 17 the targets were toughened in June to continue to challenge 18 management to perform at a high level. 19 time the debtors have ever adjusted their performance 20 metrics -- performance metric targets mid-year. 21 For those programs As with all three plans, in response That is the first In Roth American, the Third Circuit held that the 22 vertical dimension test analyzes the transactions from the 23 vantage point of a hypothetical creditor and the inquiry is 24 whether the transaction subjects a creditor to economic risk 25 of a nature different from those he accepted when he decided 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 192 of 205 Page 192 1 to extend credit. 2 The question isn't whether there is a difference. 3 There is. 4 expectations. 5 performance metrics, one could easily argue the creditors 6 would be at a disadvantage. 7 credit, assuming management incentives were to reach a 8 certain target. 9 targets were achieved, it would be more likely the creditor 10 Rather, the point is to gage creditor If the debtors had decided to lower the They would have extended Of course, if those performance metric would be paid. 11 If those targets were easier to achieve, however, 12 the creditor may not have extended credit in the first 13 place. 14 assumption, the performance metrics were at a certain level 15 and then have them lowered after the extension of credit 16 would potentially hoodwink the creditor, but in this 17 instance, the creditor isn't harmed, it is benefitted. 18 Certainly, to extend credit based upon an Management is motivated to reach certain targets 19 that make it sufficiently safe for a creditor to extend 20 credit based on that creditors' risk profile. 21 toughens the performance metrics to motivate management to 22 reach targets even more likely to result in the creditor to 23 receive payment. 24 in a loan to own scenario, would object. 25 instance as this, the vertical dimension is satisfied. 212-267-6868 The debtor No reasonable creditor, except perhaps one And in such an VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 193 of 205 Page 193 1 The changes to the key leader performance plan 2 were more extensive. 3 is not a continuation of an existing plan. 4 adopted in 2014 on the eve of a well-publicized and almost 5 certain bankruptcy and with the input of bankruptcy savvy 6 professionals. 7 First, the key leader performance plan It is a new plan Second, the structure was changed from the 8 predecessor owner/operator plan from a 50/50 retention 9 incentive plan to a wholly incentive plan. While this 10 change may have inured to the benefit of creditors, it is a 11 significantly more material change than simply toughening 12 performance metric targets. 13 Third, the payment periods were modified from 14 semiannual to quarterly. 15 that issue at some length when it found the change not to 16 render the program retentive. 17 The Court has already discussed The confluence of these changes and most 18 particularly that this is an entirely new plan, results in 19 the key leader performance plan failing the vertical 20 dimension test, thus the debtors' adoption of the key leader 21 performance plan was outside the ordinary course of the 22 debtors' business. 23 As the EAIP and LTIP plans were adopted in the 24 ordinary course of business, the question is whether their 25 adoption involves a business judgment made in good faith 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 194 of 205 Page 194 1 upon a reasonable basis and within the scope of authority 2 under the Bankruptcy Code. 3 The evidence overwhelmingly establishes that the 4 debtors have met this standard. 5 would be due under the plan are the result of metrics and 6 targets established through a thorough, bottom up budgeting 7 process. 8 9 The incentive payments that The targets present very challenging, but achievable goals, the metrics and targets are focused on 10 what management can achieve in running the business rather 11 than the company's debt structure. 12 interest and management and economic stakeholders in this 13 case, i.e., the creditors, and they pay for themselves. 14 The plan is allowing the If management achieves the targets, the debtors' 15 estate is better off well in excess of the cost of the 16 bonuses. 17 Now, notwithstanding that the key leader 18 performance plan and LTIP satisfied the test applicable to 19 transactions under the ordinary course of business. 20 avoidance of doubt in this case, the Court will also review 21 the EAIP and LTIP programs as if they were adopted outside 22 the ordinary course of business. 23 For the Having determined that a transaction is outside 24 the ordinary course of business, one would generally proceed 25 to the business judgment standard governing transactions 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 195 of 205 Page 195 1 outside the ordinary course of business, but there is a 2 complication in relation to payments to insiders that is 3 section 503(c)(3) of the Bankruptcy Code. 4 Section 503(c)(3) limits the payments of certain 5 obligations outside the ordinary course of business 6 providing that there shall neither be allowed nor paid (3) 7 other transfers or obligations that are outside the ordinary 8 course of business and not justified by the facts and 9 circumstances of the case, including transfers made to or 10 obligations incurred for the benefit of officers, managers 11 or consultants hired after the date of the filing of the 12 petition. 13 Section 503(c)(3) applies to officers, managers or 14 consultants, a category of employees that includes all the 15 insiders covered by the plans before the Court. 16 order to satisfy section 503(c)(3), the transfers under the 17 EAIP key leader performance plan and the LTIP must be 18 justified by the facts and circumstances of the case. 19 Plus in Courts have struggled somewhat in determining what 20 exactly congress meant by using that language. 21 have stated that it's nothing more than another way to 22 implement the business judgment standard applicable to 23 transactions outside the ordinary course of business under 24 section 363(b)(1). 25 late Judge Lifland articulated six factors the Court should 212-267-6868 Some courts In the case of in re: Dana Corp, the VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 196 of 205 Page 196 1 consider in determining whether the business judgment 2 standard is met if one were to apply it under section 3 503(c). 4 The so-called Dana factors are, (1), is there a 5 reasonable relationship between the plan proposed and the 6 results to be obtained, i.e., in the case of a performance 7 incentive, is the plan calculated to achieve the desired 8 performance; (2), is the cost of the plan reasonable in the 9 context of the debtors' assets, liabilities and earning 10 potential; (3), is the scope of the plan fair and 11 reasonable, does it apply to all employees, does it 12 discriminate unfairly; (4), is the plan or proposal 13 consistent with industry standards; (5), what were the due 14 diligence efforts of the debtor in investigating the need 15 for a plan, analyzing which key employees need to be 16 incentivized, what is available, what is generally 17 applicable in a particular industry; and (6), did the debtor 18 receive independent counsel in performing due diligence and 19 in creating and authorizing the incentive compensation. 20 Other courts most notably the Northern District of 21 Texas in the case of in re: Pilgrim's Pride Corp. have 22 adopted a more stringent standard. 23 Without specifically adopting either test for the 24 avoidance of doubt in this case, the Court will apply the 25 most stringent test identified to judge such programs under 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 197 of 205 Page 197 1 section 503(c)(3), the Pilgrim's Pride test. 2 In Pilgrim's Pride, the Court argues with some 3 force that the test of section 503(c)(3) should not be 4 equated to the business judgment rule as applied under 5 section 363(b)(1), rather the Court holds as follows. 6 The Court concludes that section 503(c)(3) is 7 intended to give the judge a greater role, even if a good 8 business reason can be articulated for a transaction. 9 Court must still determine that the proposed transfer or 10 The obligation is justified in the case before it. 11 The Court reads this requirement as meaning that 12 the Court must make its own determination that the 13 transaction will serve the interest of creditors and the 14 debtors' estate. 15 As a threshold matter, the Court must still find 16 that the debtors have satisfied the business judgment 17 standard under section 363(b)(1). 18 test here differs from the general corporate law business 19 judgment rule which protects corporate directors from 20 liability when they have exercised due care and were not 21 self interested in a transaction, hereby contrast the 22 bankruptcy court reviews the debtors' business judgment to 23 determine independently whether the judgment is a reasonable 24 one. 25 The business judgment The Court should not substitute its judgment for 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 198 of 205 Page 198 1 the debtors however, but should determine only whether the 2 debtors' judgment was reasonable and whether a sound 3 business justification exists supporting the transaction and 4 its terms. 5 Moreover as stated earlier, in considering whether 6 an incentive compensation plan meets the outside the 7 ordinary course of business standard, courts often apply the 8 Dana factors. 9 that the plans meet the business judgment standard. 10 All six of those factors support a finding First, the plans are the result of a bottom up 11 process where performance metrics and targets for them were 12 established that were designed to provide management with 13 challenging but achievable goals, thus the plans are 14 calculated to achieve the desired performance. 15 Two, the plans will cost no more than $20 million 16 with debtors that have over 30 billion in debt and operating 17 revenues of $6 billion annually. 18 plan is reasonable in the context of the debtors' assets, 19 liabilities and earning potential. 20 Clearly, the cost of the Three, the plans applies to the most senior 21 members of the debtors' management and treat the various 22 members of the management on a rationale basis relating to 23 their various roles in the company, thus the scope of the 24 plan is fair and reasonable. 25 Four, Mr. Friske testimony clearly established 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 199 of 205 Page 199 1 that the plans are consistent with industry standards. 2 Five, the debtors' performed extensive due 3 diligence, both internally and through consulting with 4 advisors in investigating the need for the plans, analyzing 5 which key employees need to be incentivized and how what is 6 generally applicable in the industry. 7 And six, the debtors received extensive advice 8 from independent advisors, i.e. Kirkland & Ellis, Mr. Friske 9 and Mr. Filsinger in performing due diligence and creating 10 and authorizing the plans. 11 The evidence overwhelmingly establishes that the 12 debtors have met the business judgment standard applicable 13 to transactions outside the ordinary course of business both 14 generally and as articulated in the Dana factors. 15 Next, under Pilgrim's Pride in the departure from 16 the normal business judgment standard, the Court must make 17 its own determination that the plan served the interest of 18 creditors and the debtors' estate. 19 Again, the debtors have met that standard. As I 20 just stated, the economic stakeholders in this case, i.e., 21 the creditors, as well as the estate, will be better off if 22 management hits its targets and is awarded its incentive 23 bonuses. 24 25 At heart, the question in front of this Court is whether it believes the incentive plans work. 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com I do. If 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 200 of 205 Page 200 1 properly designed, incentive plans serve like fiduciary 2 duties to align the interest of the principal and agent, in 3 this case, the debtors' estate and its creditors on the one 4 hand and management on the other. 5 It is a fundamental economic principle that an 6 employee will work harder if he or she has a tangible and 7 identifiable economic stake in the results of his or her 8 labor. 9 be beyond the reach of management. 10 It's important, however, that incentive targets not challenging, but achievable. 11 Such targets must be This is the case here. The debtors have designed three incentive plans 12 that provide management with challenging but achievable 13 goals that if met will inure to the benefit of management, 14 the debtors' estate and the creditors. 15 To sum up, the EAIP key leader performance plan 16 and the LTIP are all primarily incentive as opposed to 17 retention plans and thus section 503(c)(1) is inapplicable. 18 The EAIP and the LTIP were entered in the ordinary 19 course of business, but the key leader performance plan was 20 entered outside of the ordinary course of business. 21 Nonetheless, for the avoidance of doubt, the Court reviewed 22 all three plans as if they were entered outside the ordinary 23 course of business. 24 25 Under section 503(c)(3) payments under insider incentive plans like those before the Court can only be made 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 201 of 205 Page 201 1 if they are justified by the facts and circumstances of the 2 case. 3 Applying the Pilgrim's Pride iteration of the 4 facts and circumstances test, the Court finds that each of 5 the plans has easily met the standard and the motion will be 6 granted. 7 Some final notes, as mentioned earlier, the Court 8 does not believe that this is remotely a closed question. 9 The evidence in favor of the debtors' motion was thorough, 10 persuasive and virtually unchallenged by the trustee. 11 stated at the beginning, I find that these incentive plans 12 define the gold standard. 13 this case are not primarily incentive plans and/or do not 14 meet the justified by the facts and circumstances test, then 15 it's hard to imagine how any plan could. 16 As I The debtors' plan at issue in Also, while the Court appreciates, supports and 17 honors the mission of the Office of the United States 18 Trustee, it often looks to the position of the economic 19 stakeholders in making its decisions. 20 only party objecting to the plans is the trustee. 21 the creditor constituencies have either affirmatively 22 supported or have not objected to the debtors' motion. 23 In this case, the All of That is an extraordinarily, excuse me, that is an 24 extraordinary unanimity of position in the context of this 25 case. Because the evidence so clearly supports granting the 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 202 of 205 Page 202 1 motion, however, the Court has made its decision without 2 consideration of the creditors' positions. 3 However, were the case -- were the issue a closer 4 one, the -- however, were the issue a closer one, the Court 5 would consider and perhaps give great weight to the position 6 of the economic stakeholders. 7 8 That concludes my ruling, which was lengthy. Are there any questions? 9 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: No. No, Your Honor. 10 THE COURT: Do you have a form of order? 11 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: 12 THE COURT: I can enter one. 13 All right. The Court will enter an order -- court Yes, we do. I mean it's -- 14 will simply enter an order granting the motion for the 15 reasons set forth on the record. 16 UNISON: Thank you, Your Honor. 17 THE COURT: 18 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: 19 THE COURT: Is there anything else for today? No, Your Honor. Just in closing, I'd like to thank the 20 professionals for an extremely well organized and well 21 presented trial and I truly appreciate it. 22 Court's job a lot easier when parties and both parties here 23 are prepared and organized and provide such a well 24 structured trial and I truly appreciate it. 25 That's all we have for today. 212-267-6868 It makes the We're adjourned. VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 203 of 205 Page 203 1 2 UNISON: Thank you, Your Honor. (Whereupon these proceedings were concluded at 5:19 PM) 3 * * * * * 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 204 of 205 Page 204 1 I N D E X 2 W I T N E S S E S 3 WITNESS BY 4 Michael Panacio PAGE Ms. Sarkessian 7 5 Mr. McKane 58 6 Ms. Sarkessian 94 7 8 9 I N D E X 10 E X H I B I T S 11 PARTY NO DESCRIPTION ID. EVID. 12 Joint 28 Document -- 58 13 36 Corrected Charts -- 57 14 37 10-K of EFCH -- 58 15 38 First Day Presentation 64 -- 16 39 10-K of EFH 71 105 17 18 I N D E X 19 R U L I N G S 20 21 Debtors' motion to approve three 22 compensation plans PAGE LINE 169 4 23 24 25 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911 Filed 12/01/14 Page 205 of 205 Page 205 1 C E R T I F I C A T I O N 2 3 I, Dawn South, Penny Skaw, Jamie Gallagher and Melissa 4 Looney certify that the foregoing transcript is a true and 5 accurate record of the proceedings. 7 Digitally signed by Dawn South DN: cn=Dawn South, o=Veritext, ou, [email protected], c=US Date: 2014.10.16 11:50:48 -04'00' ______________________________________ 8 Dawn South 9 AAERT Certified Electronic Transcriber CET**D-408 6 10 11 12 13 Dawn South Digitally signed by Penny Skaw DN: cn=Penny Skaw, o=Veritext, ou, [email protected], c=US Date: 2014.10.16 11:51:31 -04'00' _______________________________________ Penny Skaw Penny Skaw Jamie Gallagher Digitally signed by Jamie Gallagher DN: cn=Jamie Gallagher, o=Veritext, ou, [email protected], c=US Date: 2014.10.16 11:51:56 -04'00' 14 _______________________________________ 15 Jamie Gallagher Digitally signed by Melissa Looney DN: cn=Melissa Looney, o=Veritext, ou, [email protected], c=US Date: 2014.10.16 11:52:37 -04'00' 16 Melissa Looney 17 _______________________________________ 18 Melissa Looney 19 AAERT Certified Electronic Transcriber CET**D-607 20 Veritext 21 330 Old Country Road 22 Suite 300 23 Mineola, NY 11501 24 Date: October 16, 2014 25 212-267-6868 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com 516-608-2400 Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911-1 Filed 12/01/14 Page 1 of 1 UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT District of Delaware In Re: Energy Future Holdings Corp. Energy Plaza 1601 Bryan Street Dallas, TX 75201 EIN: 46−2488810 TXU Corp. TXU Corp Texas Utilities Chapter: 11 Case No.: 14−10979−CSS NOTICE OF FILING OF TRANSCRIPT AND OF DEADLINES RELATED TO RESTRICTION AND REDACTION A transcript of the proceeding held on 10/15/14 was filed on 12/1/14 . The following deadlines apply: The parties have 7 days to file with the court a Notice of Intent to Request Redaction of this transcript. The deadline for filing a request for redaction is 12/22/14 . If a request for redaction is filed, the redacted transcript is due 1/2/15 . If no such notice is filed, the transcript may be made available for remote electronic access upon expiration of the restriction period, which is 3/2/15 unless extended by court order. To review the transcript for redaction purposes, you may purchase a copy from the transcriber (see docket for Transcriber's information) or you may view the document at the clerk's office public terminal. Clerk of Court Date: 12/1/14 (ntc) Case 14-10979-CSS Doc 2911-2 Filed 12/01/14 Page 1 of 1 Notice Recipients District/Off: 0311−1 Case: 14−10979−CSS User: LeslieM Form ID: ntcBK Date Created: 12/1/2014 Total: 36 Recipients of Notice of Electronic Filing: ust United States Trustee [email protected] aty Andrea Beth Schwartz [email protected] aty Brian Schartz [email protected] aty Chad J. Husnick [email protected] aty Daniel J. DeFranceschi [email protected] aty Edward O. Sassower [email protected] aty Jason M. Madron [email protected] aty Jason M. Madron [email protected] aty Mark D. Collins [email protected] aty Michael A. Rosenthal [email protected] aty Richard L. Schepacarter [email protected] aty Thomas F. Driscoll, III [email protected] aty Tyler D. Semmelman [email protected] aty Tyler D. Semmelman [email protected] aty William A. Romanowicz [email protected] TOTAL: 15 Recipients submitted to the BNC (Bankruptcy Noticing Center): db Energy Future Holdings Corp. Energy Plaza 1601 Bryan Street Dallas, TX 75201 aty Andrew McGaan Kirkland & Ellis LLP 300 North LaSalle Chicago, IL 60654 aty Anthony V. Sexton Kirkland & Ellis LLP 300 North LaSalle Chicago, IL 60654 aty Bridget K. O'Connor Kirkland & Ellis LLP 655 Fifteenth Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20005 aty Bryan M. Stephany Kirkland & Ellis LLP 655 Fifteenth Street, N.W. Washington, DC 20005 aty Iskender H. Catto McDermott Will & Emery LLP 340 Madison Avenue New York, NY 10173 aty James H.M. Sprayregen Kirkland & Ellis LLP 601 Lexington Avenue New York, NY 10022 aty Jeremy L. Graves GIBSON DUNN & CRUTCHER LLP 1801 California Street Suite 4200 Denver, CO 80202−2642 aty Jeremy L. Retherford Balch & Bingham LLP 1901 Sixth Avenue North Suite 1500 Birmingham, AL 35203−4602 aty Marc Kieselstein Kirkland & Ellis LLP 300 North LaSalle Chicago, IL 60654 aty Mark E. McKane, Esq. Kirkland & Ellis LLP 555 California Street San Francisco, CA 94104 aty Michael L. Raiff Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP 2100 McKinney Avenue Dallas, TX 75201 aty Michael P. Esser Kirkland & Ellis LP 555 California Street San Francisco, CA 94104 aty P. Stephen Gidiere, III Balch & Bingham LLP 1901 Sixth Avenue North Suite 1500 Birmingham, AL 35203−4642 aty Richard M. Cieri Kirkland & Ellis LLP 601 Lexington Avenue New York, NY 10022−4611 aty Stephen E. Hessler Kirkland & Ellis LLP 601 Lexington Avenue New York, NY 10022 aty Steven N. Serajeddini Kirkland & Ellis LLP 300 North LaSalle Chicago, IL 60654 aty Todd F. Maynes Kirkland & Ellis LLP 300 North LaSalle Chicago, IL 60654 aty W. Clark Watson Balch & Bingham LLP 1901 Sixth Avenue North Suite 1500 Birmingham, AL 35203−4642 aty William Guerrieri Kirkland & Ellie LLP 300 North LaSalle Chicago, IL 60654 aty William T. Pruitt Kirkland & Ellis LLP 300 North LaSalle Chicago, IL 60654 TOTAL: 21 TMA Annual KEIPs, KERPs, Retentions, and Other Compensation Packages: A Turnaround Manager’s Tool Kit October 6, 2015 at 11:15 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. All Third Circuit Published Cases Addressing 11 U.S.C. § 503(c) Below are all published Third Circuit cases interpreting 11 U.S.C. § 503(c), and the District of Delaware is the only court with substantive decisions on the topic. The trend among courts is to construe employee bonus programs as incentivebased, rather than retention programs subject to § 503(c). Additionally, bankruptcy judges in Delaware agree that § 503(c) (1) applies to transactions both in and out of the ordinary course of business, but that § 503(c)(3) only applies to relevant transactions outside the ordinary course. 1. In re Airway Industries, Inc., 354 B.R. 82 (W.D. Pa. 2006) Rule: Executive bonuses paid upon the sale of Debtor did not implicate § 503(c) because the Bonus Agreements were executed prior to § 503(c) taking effect, and there was no evidence that Debtor purposefully timed the Bonus Agreements to circumvent § 503(c). Relevant Facts & Rationale: The Court acknowledged this was a unique case because the Bonus Agreements were entered into prior to § 503(c) taking effect and were not executed with the intent to circumvent § 503(c). The Court, however, did note that future similar arrangements must be considered closely in order to ensure that any bonus plan was not set up to avoid § 503(c)’s restrictions. 2. In re Global Home Products, LLC, 369 B.R. 778 (Bankr. D. Del. 2007) Rule: Management incentive plans adopted in the ordinary course of business satisfy business judgment review of § 363 when such plans fulfill the six-part sound business judgment test set forth in In re Dana Corp., 358 B.R. 567 (S.D.N.Y. 2006).* Relevant Facts & Rationale: The Management and Sales Plans were primarily incentive, not retentive, because Debtors had “virtually identical plans prepetition when retention was not the motive.” Acknowledging that “all compensation has a retention element[,]” the Court found the Plans were primarily incentive-based because the employees relied on Debtor’s prior practice of providing similar bonuses and Debtor’s promise to seek Court approval of the Plans. *In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc. specifically disagreed with Global Home’s holding that “the Dana Corp. factors are applicable to an incentive program adopted in the ordinary course of a debtor’s business,” as the Nellson Court stated that the Dana Corp. sound business judgment test only applied if the incentive plan was outside the ordinary course of business. 3. In re Nellson Nutraceutical, Inc., 369 B.R. 787 (Bankr. D. Del. 2007) Rule: Section 503(c)(1) applies to all retention payments to insiders, regardless if such plan was established in or out of the ordinary course of business, but § 503(c)(3) only applies if the payment is outside the ordinary course. Relevant Facts & Rationale: Debtor retroactively changed the EBITDA trigger of its “ordinary course employee bonus compensation program” (“OCP”) so that bonuses were paid despite not reaching the original EBITDA trigger. The Court held that § 503(c)(1) applies whether the OCP’s modification was in or outside the ordinary course, but § 503(c)(1) did not apply here because the payments were not for the primary purpose of retention, Morris Nichols Business Reorganization & Restructuring Group 1 but rather for motivating employees as demonstrated by Debtor CEO’s testimony that the OCP was intended to encourage employees to increase sales and EBITDA, and that the failure to reach the original EBITDA target was not due to the employees’ failure. The Court also held that § 503(c)(3) did not apply to the OCP because the OCP’s modification was in the ordinary course as Debtor retroactively modified EBITDA targets for the three prior years and a comparable company analysis demonstrated that it was an accepted practice in the industry. 4. In re Foothills Texas, Inc., 408 B.R. 573 (Bankr. D. Del. 2009) Rule: A person with an officer title creates a presumption that he or she is an insider, which is rebuttable by sufficient evidence “that the person does not participate in the management of the debtor.” Relevant Facts & Rationale: Debtor executed bonus retention agreements with the Vice President of Land and Legal and Vice President of Engineering and argued that the vice presidents were not insiders, therefore, § 503(c) (1) should not apply to the retention agreements. The Code’s definition of “insider” includes “officer,” and the Court found that officer meant an individual with an officer’s title and taking part in the company’s management. Debtor argued the vice presidents were not senior management, supervised few employees, and only received a title to incentivize them to work for Debtor. The Court held, however, the vice presidents were officers in name and in fact because they were responsible for such important aspects of the Debtor’s business that there would be no business without them. 5. In re Blitz U.S.A., Inc., 475 B.R. 209 (Bankr. D. Del. 2012) Rule: Bonus incentive plans adopted in the ordinary course of business only need to be in good faith and satisfy § 363’s sound business judgment requirement. Relevant Facts & Rationale: Debtor’s employee bonus plan was an ordinary course transaction because Debtor had a bonus plan since 1992, the bonus plan was EBITDA-based since 2008, and Debtor modeled its bonus plan after a similar manufacturer’s plan. Relying on Nellson, the Court found that § 503(c)(3) did not apply to an ordinary course transaction, therefore, the bonus plan only had to be in sound business judgment and good faith under § 363. Debtor’s plan satisfied sound business judgment and good faith because the plan was designed prepetition, “intended to provide an incentive for employees,” and it was reasonable to lower EBITDA targets after spinning off a company. 6. In re Energy Future Holdings, Corp., Hr’g Tr. regarding Motion of Energy Future Holdings Corp., et al., for Entry of an Order Authorizing the Debtors to (A) Pay Certain Prepetition Amounts on Account of the Insider Compensation Programs and (B) Continue the Insider Compensation Programs in the Ordinary Course of Business on a Postpetition Basis, (Bankr. D. Del. Oct. 15, 2014) Rule: Compensation plans that are primarily incentive-based are not subject to § 503(c)(1), and plans not adopted in the ordinary course of business may still be approved if the court finds the facts and circumstances to justify the plan. Relevant Facts & Rationale: The U.S. Trustee argued that Debtor’s three compensation plans were retentive subject to § 503(c)(1), but the Court found that the plans were primarily incentive and therefore, not subject to § 503(c)(1). In particular, the U.S. Trustee argued that the one to three month delay between achieving the bonus and payment, during which time the employee must remain employed by Debtor, demonstrated the plan’s retentive nature. The Court, however, found that all incentive plans have an incidental retentive effect not equating to a primary goal, and that “there is no right to payment . . . unless the incentive targets are reached.” The Court further found that these compensation plans “defined the gold standard” as they were primarily incentive and justified by the facts and circumstances test. Morris Nichols Business Reorganization & Restructuring Group 2 TMA Annual KEIPs, KERPs, Retentions, and Other Compensation Packages: A Turnaround Manager's Tool Kit October 6, 2015 at 11:15 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. Second Circuit Case Law Applying Section 503(c) The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company, Inc. (A&P) In various court pleadings, it has been revealed that, approximately 107 days prior to filing for bankruptcy, the debtors transferred $6.9 million or more into a secular trust for the purposes of paying bonuses to “qualifying beneficiaries.” The debtors have disclosed that the trust paid approximately $4.6 million in bonuses prior to the petition date and that qualified beneficiaries could be entitled to up to an additional $2.3 million in bonuses if the debtors consummate a strategic transaction on or before April 5, 2016. To date, no motion has been filed seeking approval of such bonuses, nor has a formal objection been raised, although various parties have questioned the transactions. On August 25, 2015, the debtors filed a motion seeking authorization to pay retention bonuses totaling approximately $5 million in the aggregate to up to 495 “key” employees. See The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company, Inc., Case No. 15-23007 (RDD), Doc. No. 654 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. Aug. 25, 2015). A number of objections were filed, and certain objectors raised the issue of the payment of bonuses outside the bankruptcy through the trust. On September 11, 2015, the bankruptcy court entered an order granting the debtors’ motion and authorizing approximately $3.9 million in retention bonuses, as well as $1.096 million in severance payments to certain union and non-union employees of the debtors who were not participants in the KERP. See The Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Company, Inc., Case No. 15-23007 (RDD), Doc. No. 912 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. Sept. 11, 2015). Given the concerns that have been raised, the issues surrounding compensation and bonuses in A&P may well be raised again. American Airlines AMR Corporation and its affiliated debtors (“American”) sought bankruptcy court approval of a merger with U.S. Airways that would create the world’s largest airline. One component of the proposed merger was a $19.875 million severance payment (50% in cash, 50% in stock in the newly created entity) to Thomas Horton, the CEO of American who, upon the merger, would terminate as CEO of American and would be appointed chairman of newco. American asserted that the severance payment was not subject to the restrictions of Section 503(c)(2) of the Bankruptcy Code because the payment would be made by newco 999999/616-5575235.2 Page 2 and not from American’s estate. The bankruptcy court rejected this argument and denied approval of the payment, finding that American was elevating form over substance as the severance to Horton would be paid without any action being taken by the newco, an entity that would be 72% comprised of the assets of the reorganized American. See In re AMR Corp., 490 B.R. 158 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2013). American subsequently proposed a plan of reorganization that included the $19.875 million severance payment to Horton by the post-bankruptcy entity. The bankruptcy court again rejected the severance payment, finding that American could not use the plan process to circumvent the restrictions of Section 503(c)(2). See In re AMR Corp., 497 B.R. 690 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2013). Thereafter, the post-merger American paid Horton a severance package that included $11.9 million in cash and new American shares, among other benefits. Residential Capital Prior to the petition date, the debtors had negotiated sales of (1) their mortgage loan origination and servicing business and (2) a portfolio of mortgage loans and other financial assets. After they filed for bankruptcy, the debtors sought approval of a KEIP that provided for bonuses of between $4.1 million and $7 million to 17 insiders if the debtors reached certain sale milestones and financial and operational performance milestones. The bankruptcy court denied approval of the KEIP, finding that it rewarded participants for work that was mostly completed prepetition and that the participants only needed to remain with the debtors’ business until the sales closed to vest their bonuses. For example, 63% of the bonuses would vest upon the occurrence of the two sale transactions that had been negotiated prepetition. The court added that “section 503(c) requires more than increased responsibilities [in bankruptcy] to justify increased pay to insiders” and concluded that it would only approve a bonus plan that more directly tied payments to “challenging financial and operational goals for the businesses.” In re Residential Capital, LLC, 478 B.R. 154, 168, 173 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2012). The debtors subsequently proposed, and the bankruptcy court approved, a modified KEIP under which (a) the aggregate bonus for closing the two existing asset sales was reduced from 63% to 20%; (b) 50% of a participant’s bonus was tied to improving the purchase price for the assets; and (c) the remaining 30% was tied to achieving the various financial and operational metrics utilized in the original KEIP. Further, payment of 40% of any vested bonus was deferred until the effective date of a chapter 11 plan. See In re Residential Capital, LLC, Case No. 12-12020-mg, Doc. No. 1854 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. Oct. 18, 2012). Thereafter, the debtors filed a motion seeking approval of three additional bonus plans: (1) a KERP covering 155 non-insider employees with a projected one-year cost of approximately $4.4 million; (2) a multi-year KEIP covering six insiders with a projected Page 3 cost of approximately $2.2 million, under which 50% of the bonus was tied to performance against the estate budget and the remaining 50% was allocated to various recovery metrics based upon the recoveries achieved on a portfolio of government-insured loans; and (3) short-term bonuses of up to $400,000 and $600,000, respectively, for two insiders, which were tied to recovery of restricted cash and certain deliverables related to mortgage origination. The bankruptcy court approved each of the three plans. With respect to the two KEIPs, the court found that such plans were “designed to motivate these employees to achieve specified performance goals and enhance production, thereby increasing the value of the estate.” In re Residential Capital, LLC, 491 B.R. 73, 87 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2013). Hawker Beechcraft The debtors entered bankruptcy with an agreement under which 100% of prepetition debt would be converted into equity (the “Standalone Transaction”). After the petition date, the debtors received a $1.79 billion cash offer to acquire substantially all their assets (the “Third-Party Transaction”). The debtors then proposed a two-prong bonus plan for eight members of the debtors’ senior leadership team (“SLT”): (a) if the debtors consummated the Standalone Transaction, each member of the SLT could earn a bonus of up to 200% of his or her base salary ($5.328 million in the aggregate), and a minimum, 50% of base salary bonus would be awarded if the debtors closed the Standalone Transaction and met the projections in their business plan; and (b) if the debtors consummated the Third-Party Transaction, each member of the SLT would receive a bonus equal to 200% of his or her base salary if (i) the purchase price equaled at least $1.79 billion, with certain downward adjustments if the purchase price was reduced, and (ii) the transaction closed by a date certain, which date could be extended with the consent of the committee and certain creditors. If the Third-Party Transaction did not close through no fault of management, the debtors would nevertheless award the Standalone Transaction bonus to the SLT, and the projections needed to reach the minimum 50% bonus would be adjusted to reflect expenses incurred by the debtors in pursuing the Third-Party Transaction. The bankruptcy court denied approval of the bonus plan, finding that Section 503(c)(1) of the Bankruptcy Code barred approval of the bonus plan. Of particular concern to the court were the facts that that the SLT members could earn a 50% bonus for the Standalone Transaction “under an indefinite deadline without meeting any financial targets,” and “they can earn a 200% bonus under the Third-Party Transaction by consummating the transaction under a flexible deadline at a price that [the purchaser] has already offered, or a lesser bonus at a substantially lower price.” In re Hawker Beechcraft, Inc., 479 B.R. 308, 315 (Bankr S.D.N.Y. 2012). Thus, the court concluded that while the targets at the higher Page 4 end of the KEIP meet the requirement were sufficiently challenging, the goals required to receive a minimum bonus were not. Velo Holdings The debtors sought approval of approximately $2.875 million in incentive bonuses to be paid to 63 insider and non-insider employees, across three business units. Under the KEIP, payments to non-insiders were driven by the net proceeds distributed to creditors, while the bonuses for insiders were tied to achieving specific sale milestones and providing transition services. The bankruptcy court approved the KEIP, finding that it was primarily incentivizing, as the plan required participants “to do more to meet the wide-scale goals outlined in the KEIP” and “to increase their pre-bankruptcy job responsibilities to achieve the bonus requirements and financial targets.” In re Velo Holdings, Inc., 472 B.R. 201, 210 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2012). Global Aviation The debtors proposed a KERP for five employees of their North American operations, which were intended to encourage the participants to remain with the debtors during the transition of operations from New York to Georgia. The five employees were: (1) the director of safety, (2) the vice president of operations, (3) the chief pilot, (4) the senior director of maintenance, and (5) the chief inspector. The United States Trustee and the Official Committee of Unsecured Creditors objected to the KERP on the ground that the debtors had failed to prove that the KERP participants were not insiders. The bankruptcy court concluded that, notwithstanding the fact that certain of the KERP participants had officer- or director-sounding titles, none of the participants was an insider of the debtors. In approving the plan, the court noted that none of the KERP participants was a member of the board of directors, none exercised control of the debtors, all participants were at least two levels down from senior management, none had discretionary control over substantial budgetary amounts, and none was involved in setting corporate policy. In short, the court concluded, “none of the KERP Employees exercises sufficient authority over the debtor as to unqualifiedly dictate corporate policy and the disposition of corporate assets.” In re Global Aviation Holdings, Inc., 478 B.R. 142 (Bankr. E.D.N.Y. 2012). Dewey & LeBoeuf The debtor was winding down its affairs through the chapter 11 with a limited staff. The debtor sought approval of (1) a retention plan for collections and operational staff of between three and eight weeks’ salary if employees continued in the debtor’s employ until stated dates; and (2) an incentive plan in the aggregate amount of $250,000 for three “key” employees tied to the amount of receivables that were collected. The bankruptcy court approved the retention plan, finding it reasonably tailored in scope and cost in light of the debtor’s assets and liabilities. Similarly, the court approved the incentive plan, finding that the plan was designed to incentivize the desired performance and that the cost was Page 5 justified by the fact that the bonus was being paid in lieu of additional commissions to a third-party collections company. See In re Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP, 2012 Bankr. Lexis 3484, Case No. 12-12321 (MG) (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. July 30, 2012) (unpublished opinion). Borders The bankruptcy court approved a KEIP under which 15 key executives could receive bonuses of up to 55% to 75% of base salary. In order to receive the base bonuses, the maximum amount of which was approximately $2.7 million, the debtors would have to meet the following benchmarks: (1) either (a) confirm a chapter 11 plan or (b) win approval of a bankruptcy sale of the business as a going concern by August 15, 2011. If confirmation of a plan or approval of the sale occurred between August 16, 2011 through November 15, 2011, the bonus percentages would be reduced to 55%. If neither confirmation of a plan nor a sale occurred prior to November 16, 2011, then no incentive payments would be made. (2) meet specific financial benchmarks, including realizing savings in real estate leases of at least $10 million. In addition, KEIP participants were entitled to additional incentive bonuses if the threshold distribution amount to general unsecured creditors was at least $73 million. The bankruptcy court found that the KEIP satisfied Section 503(c) because it established specific financial and bankruptcy goals to be achieved in a stated timeframe. See In re Borders Group, Inc., 453 B.R. 459 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2011). Mesa Air The bankruptcy court approved a KEIP that provided for bonuses of up to $287,000 in the aggregate to seven executives for the first two quarters of 2010, followed by bonuses of up to $110,000 in the aggregate per quarter thereafter. In approving the KEIP, the court found that the plan was consistent with the debtors’ past practice, the bonus amounts had been negotiated prepetition, creditors supported the plan, and the bonus payments were tied to certain performance goals and were not retentive. In re Mesa Air Group, Inc., 2010 Bankr. Lexis 3334, Case No. 10-10018 (MG) (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. Sept. 24, 2010) (unpublished). Journal Register The bankruptcy court confirmed the debtors’ plan of reorganization, which included a postemergence incentive plan. The court found that Section 503(c) of the Bankruptcy Code did not apply to the plan as the payment of the bonuses was not being allowed as an administrative expense of the estate, and the secured lender (which was acquiring the debtors’ assets under the plan) would bear the financial burden of paying such bonuses. Page 6 Additionally, the bankruptcy court found that the bonuses were incentivizing and were not retentive. In re Journal Register Co., 407 B.R. 520 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2009). Dana Corp. In a decision issued not long after the adoption of Section 503(c) to the Bankruptcy Code, the bankruptcy court rejected a bonus plan that was primarily retentive in nature. The bonus plan consisted of two parts: (1) the plan proposed retention bonuses of between $400,000 and $560,000 for five executives, and $3.1 million for the CEO, if they remained with the debtors through the plan effective date; and (2) the plan provided uncapped bonuses based upon the total enterprise value of the reorganized debtors six months after the plan effective date; for example, the CEO would earn an additional $6.2 million bonus if the total enterprise value remained at $2.6 billion and would receive a $4.133 million bonus if the total enterprise value declined to no more than $2 billion. The court concluded that, by not tying the bonuses to anything other than remaining with the debtors, the bonus was not incentivizing. As the court stated, “If it walks like a duck (KERP) and quacks like a duck (KERP), it's a duck (KERP).” In re Dana Corp., 351 B.R. 96, 102, n.3 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2006). Subsequently, the debtors sought approval of a “substantially watered down and modified” KEIP that was tied to certain EBITDAR minimum benchmarks that would be a “stretch” to achieve given the debtors’ future sales projections. In re Dana Corp., 358 B.R. 567, 571,581 (Bankr. S.D.N.Y. 2006). The revised KEIP included both a long-term incentive component and an annual incentive payment. The court approved the long-term incentive plan, finding that it adequately incentivizing the KEIP participants to meet EBITDAR targets that were “clearly not lay-ups.” Id. at 583. However, the court declined to approve the annual incentive plan, finding that approval of both incentive plans could result in total compensation to insiders that was not reasonable.