December 2008.pub

Volume 9, Issue 6
December 2008
The Bi-Monthly Newsletter of the Victorian Flying Scale Aircraft Association.
Visit our website at http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/vfsaa
The Temora Invitational Scale Classic
This contest which was run from the 7th to the
9th of November at the Temora airport, home
of the well known flying aircraft museum, was
the brainchild of Greg Tracey, currently from
Sydney but who’s real address is The World.
Greg is the son of one of my very oldest flying
friends, Brian Tracey from Canberra, and is a
well known Yankophile (more of this later).
He has been going to Top Gun for several
years (I would have said competing but he
never seems to get off the ground) and with
this contest he has tried to bring Top Gun to
Australia.
through a fair amount of flying and a simpler
flight schedule which also makes for short
flights.
A pretty good entry of 35 models turned up for
four classes. The classes are Masters, for
those who design and build their own models,
Expert for those who build from a kit or published plans, Team Scale and Flying Only.
The entrants came from far and wide, New
South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania, New Zealand and a very strong contingent from
Queensland.
Inside this issue:
Minutes of February Meeting.
2
President’s Report..
3
Vicscale Rally at P&DARCS.
4-5
A Scale Undercarriage.
6-7
Ballarat Annual ARF Scale
8-9
Keeping your Cool.
10
Special Dates and Points of
InterestVFSAA General Meeting
Thursday December 4th.
Vicscale Rally at Werribee
Sunday January 18th.
VFSAA General Meeting
Thursday February 5th.
This very large B-17 by Steve Thomas of
Queensland has a 6m wingspan.
The essential elements of Top Gun are a very
fast static judging regime – three judges, one
each for outline, colour (or should that be
color) and markings, and craftsmanship multiple flight lines (in this case two) to get
Most arrived on the Thursday and static judging was easily completed on the Friday.
(continued on page 11)
Vicscale Rally at SEMAC
Sunday February 8th.
Minutes of October General Meeting.
Date: 2-10-08
Start: 7.40pm
Location: FNCV
Attendance: 24
Apologies: Barrie Reaby, Trevor Pugh, Steve Malcman, Bill Eunson, Frank Singh, Joe Finocchiaro.
Previous minutes: read.
Matters arising: nil.
Correspondence in:
•
VMAA newsletter.
• E-mail from Darryl Gunst re Lew Rodman’s comments on Darryl Gunst using the VFSAA mailing list. John Lamont replied that this was an
inadvertent error by Darryl and he did not have a concern in this instance.
• OK from Werribee for the scale rally next year.
Correspondence out:
• Application to Werribee & SEMAC for next year.
• E-mail to VMAA re application forms for the use of the State Field.
• VMAA notification re the State Champs, F4c and ARF at P&DARCS on 22-2-09.
Treasurer’s report: read, 3 new members.
General business:
• Brian Whellan reported that Max Nichol has passed away.
• Noel Whitehead advised NSW that the team trials may be held at the Vic. State Champs in February. We may have to unilaterally declare
us as the Australian Scale SIG.
• Paul Winter reported that the MAAA can’t get information from NSW re the 2009 Scale Nats.
• John Lamont reported on the Bacchus Marsh event. Nobody turned up due to the weather.
• Barrie Reaby in hospital. He proposed a one round competition at the December demonstration.
• Haydn Hampson reported that the Mammoth was not bad, Saturday was windy with 12 crashes.
• Ken Thomas advised that not all the crashes were due to 2.4 GH faults.
•
Ivan Chislett made a life member of the MAAA.
• The raffle held over from the last meeting was drawn with prizes donated by Anthony Mott.
• Many thanks to Frank Singh for the supper.
Meeting closed: 9.25pm
Show & Tell:
Haydn Hampson showed the progress on his Spitfire, and gave an
informative talk on fiberglass techniques in constructing fuselages
etc.
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Ken Thomas showed further progress on his Caudron Racer. Excellent and innovative workmanship.
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President’s Report
Hi All,
At last Christmas is in sight and few weeks
of urgently required holidays are on the
way. We have had a very successful year
in scale with higher attendances and some
very enjoyable events. As per normal this
year seems to have gone faster than the
last and here we are again winding down for the festive season
and some time with our families and friends.
The highlight for me since our last newsletter has been the Temora
event in NSW. This comp was based on the American Scale Masters event, and although that type of competition originally didn’t
really appeal to me I must say now I would be very keen to return
and would encourage others to do the same.
As the days have passed since the event I have realized that as
good as the competition was, it was the people I was with that has
stuck in my mind. I was in a self-contained unit with about twelve
other modellers. I worked out very quickly that I was the junior
amongst the group not only in age but especially in experience. For
the three nights we were there, this group would get together at the
end of the day’s flying, sit in the foyer area, drink, and do a lot of
talking. I wasn’t in much of a drinking mood so I just sat there and
listened. If you filtered out all the bad jokes and medical problems it
was one hell of a learning experience.
To give you some idea of the calibre of modellers that were there
we had Brian Borland, Gwyn Avenell, (two of New Zealand’s best
scale modellers), Ross Woodcock, Ray Botten, Gus Greening, and
Ron Cavanagh. If these names are not familiar to you they are part
of our scale royalty, and men whose talents I admired as a boy
learning scale. I am 41 years old now but I still felt the boy while sitting amongst this group. The discussion of building techniques by
these guys is etched in my mind, and I feel very lucky to have been
in that spot at that time.
Ross Woodcock’s career was in full size aviation so the techniques
he uses on modeling are much the same as full size and when you
think about early aviation there isn’t much difference between models and full size construction, timber, fabric, dope, metal, and ply. I
am not sure if they even knew it, but they managed to discuss in
some detail the methods of applying fabric covering , doping, rib
tapes, metal covering, plug building, muffler/exhaust building, flying, and probably a few other topics that escape me at this moment. It was very interesting and reinforces the fact that there is always more you can learn. Thanks so much to all that were there to
provide the entertainment.
If I am one of the youngest scale modelers at my age let’s hope we
can draw in some young blood soon so that the skills of these gentlemen don’t die with them as they are truly talented craftsmen and
we cannot have that type of knowledge lost in time. Maybe we
should consider running some workshops at our meetings in the future to keep the knowledge alive.
Have a great Christmas,
See you next year,
David.
From the Editors.
Vale!
On reading Anthony Mott’s comments (see page 10) on the installation of 2.4ghz receivers it would seem that you should be “Ice Cool”
when setting up that particular piece of equipment if you want to retain “Rock Solid” contact with your airborne pride and joy. I have seen
a smallish model with the stumpy aerial black box mounted in the
cockpit canopy for all the world to see, and for the sun to have it’s
way with it. Presumably it worked satisfactorily but leaving that model
sitting in direct sunlight for a day at the field might have some deleterious effect!
We lost two more long time modellers in late November with the
sudden passing of Derry Brown and Ford Lloyd’s departure after a
long period of illness. Derry was a very good control line stunt flyer
in the fifties and sixties and also served as president of the
P&DARCS club. Many will remember him as the very competent
and knowledgeable commentator at the Shepparton Mammoth
Scale event.
I guess everyone will by now have noticed the change of title for our
newsletter and the renaming of our events to Vicscale. The committee
has decided that our full title of the “Victorian Flying Scale Aircraft
Association” is too much of a mouthful and we would be better served
by simply calling ourselves “Vicscale”. The full VFSAA title will continue to be used for the incorporated body.
Ford Lloyd was initially a free flight enthusiast, winning many power
events over the years before taking up radio control flying with a
strong interest in scale modelling. He was a member of the VFSAA
for many years and contributed to our Association as a contest director, judge and competitor.
Both will be missed by their many friends in Australian modelling
circles.
President:
David Law
Tel: 9844-4424, e-mail: [email protected]
Secretary:
Keith Schneider
Tel: 9842-5381, e-mail: [email protected]
Treasurer:
Tony Grieger
Tel: 9720-9126, e-mail: [email protected]
Newsletter:
Ian Lamont
John Lamont
Tel: 9439-4469, e-mail: [email protected]
Tel: 9848-2339, e-mail: [email protected]
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VICSCALE RALLY at P&DARCS.
Our second rally at P&DARCS was again a very well attended and
successful event blessed once more with fine weather and a with a
very nice assortment of around forty scale model aircraft, both
owner built and ARF.
In the calm and sunny conditions we flew constantly from early
morning to lunch and after enjoying the usual BBQ lunch we flew a
single round competition for the ten or so people who wished to try
their hand at competitive flying.
Among the many owner built models to stand out were the Corsair
of Mike Lynch which roared around the sky with a commanding
presence, Gary Sunderland’s new Albatros CIII, the Hawker Fury
racer of Haydn Hampson and David Balfour’s Curtis Robin and
Piper L4. Ray Chapman and Paul Trezise, after bringing their 1/3
scale Sopwith Pup all the way from Albury, did not get into the air
while P&DARCS secretary Don White flew a very nice Piper Super
Cub constructed from a Dynaflite kit.
As is now the norm we had a lot of ARF’s and it must be admitted
that these models are becoming more acceptable as scale models
with a number of new and more rarely seen types now available.
Bill Reynolds’ Boeing P-26 Peashooter, Mark Radburn’s Miles
Hawk and Angelo Favaloro’s Cessna 182 were a change from the
usual Mustangs and Spitfires. Ian and I really went overboard and
fronted up with a fleet of ARF’s including our new Marathons (Extra
300’s?) which show promise of a good flight performance.
The short competition was quite popular and everyone, including a
few newcomers, competed well with a marked improvement in
performance since last year. Tony Grieger was the winner in a tight
finish from David Balfour and Mike Lynch. Bill Reynolds and Jerry
Visick were the recipients of the Dura-grit rotary tools kindly donated by SC Models for presentation at our rallies.
My thanks to Tony Grieger, Graham Godden and Anthony Mott for
their assistance with the judging and to the members of P&DARCS
for the use of their field.
Gary Sunderland used the good field and fine weather to demonstrate his large Albatros CIII, a most
impressive model powered by the same Super Tigre 4500 that was used in his big Bristol Fighter.
Competition.
Rally Awards.
Military Flying:
Michael Lynch
Vought F4U Corsair
1.
Tony Grieger
Fokker Eindekker
796pts.
Military Non Flying:
Ray Chapman
Sopwith Pup
2.
David Balfour
Curtis Robin
794 pts.
Civil Flying:
David Balfour
Curtis Robin
3.
Mike Lynch
Vought Corsair
746 pts.
Civil Non Flying:
No entry
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Another view of Gary Sunderland;s Albatros CIII.
Mark Radburn’s ARF Miles Hawk powered with a Super Tigre 2500.
Angelo Favaloro brought his Yak and Cessna.
Scratch built Corsair and Sea Fury by Mike Lynch and Haydn Hampson.
Don White’s Piper Super Cub in the pits.
The family ARF collection, two for me and three for Ian.
Don White and Bill Reynolds with Bill’s P-39 and P-26.
The 1/3 scale Sopwith Pup by Ray Chapman and Paul Trezise of Albury.
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A SCALE
UNDERCARRIAGE.
After destroying my old J3 Cub I wanted to build another and to
allow possible entry into Warbird competition I decided to build two,
a civil J3 and a military L4.
They both needed better undercarriages than the rather rough bent
wire and plywood affair of my previous Cubs and since the sprung
unit fitted to my Spacewalker during its rebuild worked well I used
the same springing arrangement on the Cubs. Using compression
springs instead of bungee cords is not quite right but when the
bags are fitted over the springs no-one will see the difference and I
won’t have to worry about replacing the cords as they stretch or
break. I have accumulated a number of sketches of Cub undercarts
from various sources and while they all purport to be 1/4 scale they
are all different, having been set up for various kit models which
seem to vary considerably in fuselage width. I designed my Cubs
using a J3 3-view by Paul Matt and a L4 3-view which was published in Flying Scale Models so, together with photos of the full
size aircraft, I have made my own version of a 1/4 scale Cub undercarriage. Fortunately I found a very good L4 at Riddells Creek
airfield and the owner kindly allowed me to take photos to confirm a
lot of the aircraft’s detail, particularly the cabin structure detail.
◄
Jig for main leg
assembly. This one was
made for my Spacewalker
which has a diagonal
support strut.
Assembled undercarriage.
Legs will be fabric covered
as on the full size aircraft.
►
◄
Du Bros 1/4 scale
Cub wheels will be used
on both models.
Mounting brackets are
fixed to plywood plates
on fuselage bottom with
4-40 screws and blind
nuts. Brackets will be
filled and the screw
heads concealed when
the bottom of the fuselage is covered with
fabric.
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A number of simple jigs are required to ensure accuracy and repeatability when silver soldering the frames and I make these from
MDF sheet or cheap plywood. They got a bit burnt during the silver
soldering bit but managed to hang together while making two sets
of gear.
These drawings are quite accurate but rather small when reduced
to fit the newsletter pages so if anyone wants to try their hand I can
produce a set of full size drawings which can be handy when mak-
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ing the jigs. I cut out the sections of drawings and paste them onto
the base timber using small pieces of square timber to locate the
parts. Holes or cut outs at the joints allow for soldering all round
(you just have to get used to the occasional flash fire!).
The worst part of the job is cleaning the parts after soldering as the
flux is hard to shift after it’s heated.
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BALLARAT ANNUAL ARF SCALE COMPETITION.
It was a rather disappointing turn out for this event but with the
poor weather forecast it was not altogether surprising. It rained
intermittently as we headed west and the wind gathered strength
as we moved away from Melbourne. It looked as though the trip
might be wasted but on arrival at the Ballarat field it seemed that
those who did come were prepared to try their luck.
The field looked a bit different as the landlord had sown a crop of
some description which was now about half a metre high and did
not provide much space for a runoff from the short strip. The wind
was strong from the north which meant that the turbulence from the
tree plantation on the north boundary was severe and with only the
east-west strip available we were taking off and landing with a
strong cross wind. All in all not a very good situation and the flying
demonstrated the difficulty. Models were quickly blown off course
and some had problems getting correct alignment with the narrow
strip on landing.
Noel Whitehead receives his prize for first place from the Ballarat club
president.
Anthony Mott drew the short straw and flew first with his largely
untried AT-6 powered by a five cylinder Seidel radial. The model
was blown in all directions and Anthony missed the strip on landing, damaging the model sufficiently to preclude further flying. I
followed with my Extra? and also had problems with the wind but
persisted until I botched the landing, the small wheels didn’t like the
rough strip and the model overturned, fortunately without sustaining any serious damage.
Noel Whitehead seemed to get a bit less wind on his flight and the
model scored well with a good landing. Ian Lamont lost a wheel nut
from his new Extra on an early test flight and borrowed my Yak to
put in a good performance with the unfamiliar model. Roger Carrigg and the Ballarat members adapted better to the conditions (a
bit of local experience probably helped) and all were able to complete their schedule and get down safely. Brian Munns and Jeric
Strong from Geelong both flew their patterns and landed without
mishap.
After a BBQ lunch I lead off for the second round and really had
problems in the even stronger wind. After several attempted landings I finally put the model down in the rough area beside the strip,
tearing off both wheel spats in the process. After a quick meeting
and show of hands it was decided to call off further flying (I was the
only dissenter as I wanted to see the others try their luck, but they
chickened out) and we gathered in the clubhouse for the presentation of awards and the draw for the contestants prize.
With no sign of the wind abating we packed up, said our goodbyes,
and headed for home with a short stop at the nearby roadhouse for
further sustenance. It was a pity that the weather spoiled the day
but I’m sure that we will be there next year, hoping that the conditions will be more conducive for a successful event.
Anthony Mott won the pilots draw. The ARF kit was donated by Roj’s
Hobbies who supported the event.
COMPETITOR
MODEL
SCORE
N. WHITEHEAD
RV4
226.8
1
SHOESTRING
222.2
2
B. MUNNS
SUKHOI
192.O
3
I. LAMONT
YAK 54
180.2
4
J. LAMONT
EXTRA 300
177.8
5
N. KATSIKAROS
PITTS S1
176.5
6
P. EVANS
TUCANO
173.7
7
J. STRONG
EDGE 540
172.2
8
NA AT-6
169.7
9
PIPER PAWNEE
126.2
10
R. CARRIGG
A. MOTT
A. BENTLY
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The west end of the pits where the better class of models gathered.
This Pitts S1 was flown by Ballarat member Nick Katsikaros.
A Sukhoi and Edge by Brian Munns and Jeric Strong from the Geelong
We presented Glen White with his VFSAA Hargrave Trophy, for the highest
points score over the year’s competition, shared with David Law.
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The east end where the others hung around.
The judging panel at work and looking very relaxed. Not so for the poor
pilot battling the wind.
Roger Carrigg watching closely as the Pitts starts to roll.
This nice Piper Pawnee by Andrew Bently of the Ballarat club is another
slightly different ARF.
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KEEPING YOUR
COOL !
BY
ANTHONY MOTT.
In a previous item in the VFSAA newsletter, I drew attention
to the high current consumption of the 2.4ghz receivers, as
compared to the good old 36mhz (and 29mhz), units. Now
the interesting question is "why do they consume so much
current, and where does the energy go ?" Well, I don't
rightly know but, if the receiver is processing signals in the
2.4ghz range, then there must be a computer chip in there
running at, or faster than, that speed. So the extra current
input is consumed by a "fast" computer chip and ancillaries.
And we all know that the faster you drive a computer chip,
the hotter it gets.
So, do these 2.4ghz receivers get hot ? Well, in the instructions for my Futaba 7C outfit there is no reference to special
treatment of the receiver mounting other than concerning
the orientation of the antennas. The Xtreme receiver mounting instructions suggest that you "show it off" (rather than
wrapping it in foam rubber), which may be an underhanded
way of saying "don't wrap it up in foam rubber as it will get
too hot" !
More Pics from Temora.
But where does all that energy go? The latest issue
(December 2008, pages 96-98) of that slowly dying magazine, Model Airplane News, advocates that not only should
you NOT wrap the receiver up in foam rubber, but that you
should be careful to ensure that it is not mounted in a location that causes it to get too hot due to ambient conditions.
Indeed, the author goes on to recommend that the receiver
be mounted in an "open" manner, and suggests providing
cooling air for the receiver compartment !
For all 2.4ghz users, I suggest that you go back and carefully check the instructions concerning the mounting and
installation of the receiver, and in the absence of specific
directions, that you mount it in a manner and location where
it can "keep its cool" whilst working hard for you !
Don Murray from NSW flew this Douglas Dauntless.
VICSCALE RALLY
at
NEPEAN
The weather got us again at this event and the few people
who turned up ,despite the poor forecast, didn’t even bother to
assemble their models. We had a short mid morning BBQ and
gave up. The Nepean members are keen to hold the event so
we may try to re-schedule it in December or early next year.
page 10
Event organiser Greg Tracey brought this F- 84 Thunderjet but I think he might have
been too busy trying to start the Hurricane that he bought from Ross Woodcock to
get it into the air.
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The Temora Invitational Scale Classic.
The facilities were generally very good. The models were stored in
the museum hangar so there was no need to pull them apart each
night, and there was also lots of accommodation on or very close
to the airport. This meant that there was a strong social element to
the weekend.
There were a few problems arise for the Saturday commencement
of flying. It had rained heavily overnight and the grass area we
were supposed to walk over to get to the runway was a total bog.
This meant that the flightline had to be moved a couple of hundred
metres up wind and well away from the spectator area. Everyone
did a lot of walking that day and most were in bed by 9 o’clock.
More serious was a problem that we don’t often see at contests,
the fairly strong wind was at 90 degrees to the strip and there was
no possibility of taking off or landing into wind. With a very course
bitumen surface, most of the low wing tail draggers ended up with
rather less material on their left hand wing tips than when they
arrived. The only models really happy were the jets with their
trainer wheel undercarriages.
Sunday’s flying was better with the sun drying up the bog so the
flightline was in the right place, and the wind a little more up and
down the strip. Unfortunately for me, I could not get my motor
started on the Sunday and so missed the best of the conditions.
There were a few bad losses. Alf Williams’ beautiful Lancaster
went in apparently with some sort of control malfunction, the large
P-38 from Queensland was destroyed when the pilot opened up
the throttles when the model was too high and too slow on landing
and the model promptly flipped over and spun in, and Bill Mansell
somehow lost his Spacewalker not far from some parked full sized
aircraft. I am sure everyone has seen photos of the very large B17
of Steve Thomas from Queensland. This takes two pilots to fly,
one for the normal flight functions and another for everything else.
This was preparing to fly on Sunday, all motors running, when the
auxiliary pilot accidentally retracted the undercarriage. There was
no real damage to the model but four very expensive three bladed
props were reduced to little pieces of shrapnel. I had watched the
aircraft (it’s hardly a model) fly on Saturday and it looked majestic
in the air.
Chris Henry from the twin Cities club had his usual Spitfire flying at Temora.
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During the lunch break each day, David McFarlane from Model
Sports in NSW put on an aerobatic demonstration with a large
Extra or something. Normally I object to pattern fliers “entertaining”
at scale comps but David is something special. I actually watched
his demos and had a few in-depth chats with him back at the house
we were both staying at. I think I learned a lot.
Apart from the few ouches I mentioned above, flying went pretty
much without a hitch and was generally of a high standard. It was
after all an invitational contest so Greg knew what he was getting.
I have forgotten many of the prize winners (the results have still not
been posted on the website) but the only one we need be concerned with is that David Law cleaned up big time. He was equal
top static, won Masters and was ‘Grand Champion’, and he walked
away with a swag of cups, vouchers, and a JR 7 channel radio.
Well done David.
The prize list and other sponsorship shows how good Greg is at
this sort of thing. He seems to know everyone in the world and is
friendly with Robart, Zap, Frank Tiano, PST and others I can’t remember.
I guess it was a good contest overall. Some of the rules are very
American and a bit whacky, but the theme of the weekend was
“just because it’s different doesn’t mean it’s wrong” and everyone
seemed happy enough to go along with this. It seems to be the
fashion that events that are run for the first time call themselves
“Classic”. It might come to this but it has one or two major hurdles
to jump first. I mentioned Greg’s love for things American and this
now extends to a woman he met on one of his recent trips. If, as
he was speculating, he moves over there to be with her, I don’t see
anyone else with the ability or enthusiasm to carry on with this
event. On balance that would be a pity.
Noel Whitehead.
Peter Agnew is a seasoned flier at Jet events but was a new competitor in scale
flying this Grumman Panther.
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VICSCALE RALLY at P&DARCS.
Our second rally at P&DARCS was again a very well attended and
successful event blessed once more with fine weather and a with a
very nice assortment of around forty scale model aircraft, both
owner built and ARF.
In the calm and sunny conditions we flew constantly from early
morning to lunch and after enjoying the usual BBQ lunch we flew a
single round competition for the ten or so people who wished to try
their hand at competitive flying.
Among the many owner built models to stand out were the Corsair
of Mike Lynch which roared around the sky with a commanding
presence, Gary Sunderland’s new Albatros CIII, the Hawker Fury
racer of Haydn Hampson and David Balfour’s Curtis Robin and
Piper L4. Ray Chapman and Paul Trezise, after bringing their 1/3
scale Sopwith Pup all the way from Albury, did not get into the air
while P&DARCS secretary Don White flew a very nice Piper Super
Cub constructed from a Dynaflite kit.
As is now the norm we had a lot of ARF’s and it must be admitted
that these models are becoming more acceptable as scale models
with a number of new and more rarely seen types now available.
Bill Reynolds’ Boeing P-26 Peashooter, Mark Radburn’s Miles
Hawk and Angelo Favaloro’s Cessna 182 were a change from the
usual Mustangs and Spitfires. Ian and I really went overboard and
fronted up with a fleet of ARF’s including our new Marathons (Extra
300’s?) which show promise of a good flight performance.
The short competition was quite popular and everyone, including a
few newcomers, competed well with a marked improvement in
performance since last year. Tony Grieger was the winner in a tight
finish from David Balfour and Mike Lynch. Bill Reynolds and Jerry
Visick were the recipients of the Dura-grit rotary tools kindly donated by SC Models for presentation at our rallies.
My thanks to Tony Grieger, Graham Godden and Anthony Mott for
their assistance with the judging and to the members of P&DARCS
for the use of their field.
Gary Sunderland used the good field and fine weather to demonstrate his large Albatros CIII, a most
impressive model powered by the same Super Tigre 4500 that was used in his big Bristol Fighter.
Competition.
Rally Awards.
Military Flying:
Michael Lynch
Vought F4U Corsair
1.
Tony Grieger
Fokker Eindekker
796pts.
Military Non Flying:
Ray Chapman
Sopwith Pup
2.
David Balfour
Curtis Robin
794 pts.
Civil Flying:
David Balfour
Curtis Robin
3.
Mike Lynch
Vought Corsair
746 pts.
Civil Non Flying:
No entry
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