"Ten years on, India will not need much of coal exploration"
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"Ten years on, India will not need much of coal exploration"
CMPDI mulls diversification into other minerals "Ten years on, India will not need much of coal exploration" w^•' u^ -r- - \ COVER STORY M^ s 'King Coal' faces public disgrace at the Global Climate Summit, Ml all eyes turn to India, the last market standing. The only sector M ^krecording a healthy growth, coal in India presently holds out both is a reason why people do not want to get themselves deeply involved with coal any hope and despair. Amidst an unprecedented growth in production, the more. Currently, crude oil prices are down case for technology and innovation (to increase efficiency and reduce to below $30 per barrel. Due to the emissions) gets stronger by the day. And the role played by Central Mine slackness in demand and competition from Planning and Design Institute (CMPDI), the technology arm of Coal India alternatives like shale gas, coal prices are Ltd (CIL), becomes all the more crucial. Shekhar Satan took over as chairman-cum-managing director of CMPDI also down to a record level. There is no at such a crucial juncture. An engineering graduate (and topper) from is thinking to cut its taxes so that it can demand for coal in Australia. Indonesia the 1981 batch of the Department of Mining Engineering, Banaras Hindu further bring down its cost of production. University (BHU), Saran joined CMPDI, Ranchi, as Director (Technical) in Almost all the countries are thinking June 2013. His elevation to the coveted post of CMD comes with a mix of something or other. hopes and challenges. In a candid interview with Rakesh Dubey and Arlndam similar lines sometime in future. But, as Bandyopadhyay of Coal Insights, Saran talks at length about how CMPDI the situation stands today, we must plan is planning a significant makeover to cater to the technology needs of to leverage on our coal resources for the We too may have to think along the coal sector, especially in underground mining, while charting out a next 10-15 years. This has to be done by roadmap for diversification into so far uncharted territories. both public sector and private sector. In public sector, not only Coal India (CIL), but others like NTPC, SAIL etc. too will Excerpts: environment. There is a declining trend in production in erstwhile major producing You have taken over at CMD, CMPDI, at countries. Production is China is falling. a very crucial juncture. On one hand, there The US too is off the peak. Except India, is a sudden rush in coal production; on the I do not think there is any other country other hand, there is mounting pressure from which is growing at such a pace as far as coal the climate summit. CMPDI being the tech have to develop their blocks. NTPC is in quite advanced stage of starting its mines. Once they start contributing, there will be additional availability of coal in the country and I think it will be a good source of energy. arm of Coal India must be under pressure to is concerned. Of course, the situation is the same for yield both on output and efficiency. Against other infrastructure and core sectors which this backdrop, how do you view at your new are all on a decline. In India, coal is perhaps role^ the only sector which is growing and it will Actually, it is quite early to comment on continue to grow over the next 5-10 years, that. Till now I am trying to put my feet simply because we as a country do not have in my new shoes. I am still envisaging any other option right now. what will be the scope of work and the If you see historical data, you will find challenges. True, I have been involved But all of us will have to put some serious thought into the future. We do not with CMPDI for some time now and know what the energy scenario will be 10- 250,000 metres about 10 years ago. Right that gives me some prior knowledge of 15 years hence. from its inception in 1975 till 2005-06, expectations are very high, not only from Globally, shale gas is emerging as an 200,000 to 250,000 metres per year. When my colleagues and the company, but also alternative source, especially in the US, but the demand for more coal blocks and from the government. It has to be seen also in countries like China. Do you think detailed exploration came, the government how much I will be able to live up to their it was an outcome of the growing aversion thought we should go for enhancement of to coal? exploration capacity. Right now India has immense multiple disciplines. However; exploratory drilling occupies the centre stage of its service portfolio. Please tell us about drilling performance for 2015-16 and in future. that CMPDI had been drilling about the average yearly drilling was around what to expect; but it is also a fact that expectations. CMPDI U aid to be one of it* kind of organi^ation in coal industry handling Yes, it is a very crucial development. In the last couple of years, we have done about 500,000-600,000 metres of requirement of coal. There is no doubt Shale gas and also some other alternative about it. In our country, we still have a large population which does not have power - sources have come up in recent years keeping up with the (investor) sentiment. cheap power that is. This cheap energy can Most of the people are not interested to be provided only by coal. invest in coal today. There is pressure departmental means and the remaining from the environmental groups and non 472,000 metres by outsourcing. Of the coal is not being liked nowadays globally governmental organisations (NGOs) which outsourcing part, 278,000 metres were done and is seen as a fuel source detrimental to appear to have grown allergic to coal. That byMECL. That said, we must acknowledge that drilling per annum. Then, in 2014-15, we did something around 828,000 metres. Of this, around 356,000 metres was done by Coal Insights, January 2016 | 7 COYER STORY We need only forestry clearance for The coal ministry has laid down two norms: first, we should not despatch more than 100 mm size of coal to power stations; and second, coal with more than 34 percent ash content should not be transported to a distance of more than 500 km. I have been told that this distance criterion is again going to be revised and made more stringent. So, we should be ready for a scenario where all the coal that is despatched in future would be washed. We are working towards that scenario. exploratory drilling and not environmental clearance as such. But we are not getting the clearances in time. Currendy, there are around 82 project applications pending with the environment ministry. We are taking up the issue with the ministry officials. Let me tell you, there are some areas where forestry issues are not there. We held long brainstorming sessions to identify coal bearing areas not under any dense forest cover. We are particularly targeting those areas. Out of 18,000 sq km coal bearing areas, around 10,000 sq km is unexplored. Leave 50 percent of that area; even then that respect. The clearances are not coming 5,000 sq km remains which need to be to achieve a growth of about 20 percent and as fast as they were assured. This is what I explored and which has no clearance issues. reach 950,000 to 1,000,000 metres. Next could gather. There could be some CBM blocks or other This year (2015-16), we are expecting issues at some places. Accounting for those year (2016-17), we will be going for more detailed drilling and record a growth of Are the clearance issues affecting CMPDI factors, finally, we should at least get 1,000 10-15%. as well? sq km. Over the last two years, we carried In that way, as we go on increasing Yes, we do face some issues and because of drilling, there will be more and more fully- that we are not being able to achieve our explored coal blocks available with CIL to yearly drilling targets. This year, our target is start production from. 1,500,000 metres, as set by the Ministry of Coal (MoC). We are fine with these targets, out this exercise and could identify those areas. What are the law and order challenges you are facing? How are your plans aligned with CIL's but need to have access to the fields. Due to The major challenge, apart from clearance ambitious target of 1 billion tons of coal clearance related issues, we are not getting issues, is that of law and order problems production by 2019-20? permission for drilling in many forest blocks, posed by ultra-left forces. There are We have all the geological reports and especially blocks having thick forest cover. project reports ready. Our former CMD A For whatever drilling we are doing today, K Debnath was very particular about this. the results will be visible after 4-5 years. This As soon as the 1 billion tons of production is so because after drilling, we will need to instances where our machines were burnt, contractors were thrown out and workers were not allowed into the site. But, the state government is helping plan was announced, we were ready with prepare geological reports. It requires a lot of us a lot. We are having regular meetings almost all the project reports. Only a few testing and preparation, and so this process with district commissioners (DC) and project reports are still under preparation, may take another 2-3 years. So, essentially, other local agencies. They are also trying but I think we will be completing those whatever drilling we are doing today, the to ensure that we get the space for drilling. effective use of that will be done after 4-5 We recendy got permission in Gonda block within this year. Whatever assistance is required by CIL, years. Apart from regular work, whenever in Chhatra district where we could start we are there to provide the same, and we CIL subsidiaries ask for our involvement in our drilling work with the assistance of are equipped to do that. We have some some projects, we will go for them. the state government. The DC helped us contingency plans and contingency project What is your drilling target for 2020? reports too. If a CIL subsidiary feels that it We expect to achieve 1,500,000 metres of may require some additional work from us, drilling every year by that time. Again, this we will work accordingly. is subject to clearances for forestry issues and I personally believe that this target law and order situation. Currently, we are of 1 billion tons is achievable. CIL is facing some problems at our most potential making good progress. The only problem area, Dumka (Jharkhand), where we are not the CIL subsidiaries are facing is that being able to start drilling at all. they were assured of faster clearances, i.e. a lot by holding 10-12 meetings at Block Development Officer (BDO) level to thrash out local issues. This helped us to start drilling work, which is going on for the last two months. Could you provide a comprehensive view of how much coal bearing area has already been explored and how much is yet to be explored? forestry clearances (FC) and environmental What is the current scenario in clearances (EC). So far as my knowledge environmental and forestry approvals for Statistically, we consider that our total coal exploratory drilling? bearing area is around 18,000 sq km. Out goes, the subsidiaries are facing problems in 8 | Coal Insights, January 2016 COVER STORY on it and will submit the paper to the state and very fast drill. The mechanism is also in detail and the balance area is yet to be government who will make a comprehensive very different. Mechanical drills are used explored. There, however, are some areas where estimate and submit it to the Secretary to do only mechanical work; they are not (Coal) and from there it will be taken to as smooth and easy as hydrostatic systems only top three-four seams have been Cabinet. are. You might have seen that everywhere of that, 7000-8000 sq km has been explored explored in detail and the underlying So, now we can say that there is going to nowadays only hydrostatic drills are being seams have not been explored so far. These be very aggressive implementation ofJharia used; even road rollers deployed these days include North Karanpura in Jharkhand, Action Plan. operate on hydrostatic drive. Raniganj and Jharia etc. This is so because, We had been hearing about it for many For geological exploration, we are at that time, say around 25 years back, we years, but this time the governments, both having 2D seismic surveys. Last year, were drilling only up to a depth of say 200- central and state, look really serious; at least we had additional 2D seismic survey 300 metres and the coal was still there at this is what we could gather. arrangement and again this year we are going to have additional projects. Plus, we 500 metres or 1,000 metres level as well. So that area is also left and has to be explored What are the major R&D projects of now. In this regard, currendy we are focusing CMPDI? Could you name a few projects more on deep seated reserves of coking coal. As the coal minister has rightly said, we should aim more for coking coal deposits keeping in mind the growth potential of the Indian steel sector. So, in the Jharia region, we have planned to explore further into the depth as we have more coking coal deposits in deeper seams. How hopeful are you of finding out more coking coal reserves in the country? Let me tell you that we have substantial coking coal deposits in Jharia. I think Jharia coalfield has total deposits of around 30 billion tons of coking coal and the area where it can be easily mined is having a deposit of around 1 billion tons. But that area is under fire and there are townships, habitation, railways and highways. So, around 1 billion tons of coking coal is lying blocked in those areas. As you know, there is a Jharia Rehabilitation Master Plan in place to preserve and make way for extraction of are going to have some arrangement with National Geophysical Research Institute of Hyderabad which is doing 3D seismic that are nearing completion? We are pursuing different R&D projects with different entities. Some projects are in the field of underground mining and some are in opencast mining. These projects are mostly about technology upgradation and surveys. So these are some of the areas where we are doing a lot of things. We are assisting all our subsidiaries for underground mines and providing them whatever assistance they are being pursued along with CIL and its seek from us. We are also extending support and various subsidiaries. assistance for coal beneficiation, which Technology upgradation is a very is assuming great importance. The coal important aspect as far as underground ministry has laid down two norms: first, we coal mining is concerned. We are experts in opencast mining; all CIL subsidiaries should not despatch more than 100 mm size of coal to power stations; and second, as well as private companies operating in coal with more than 34 percent ash content India are experts in opencast method, but should not be transported to a distance of we face serious challenges in underground more than 500 km. I have been told that this mining. That is a critical issue and that is why we distance criterion is again going to be revised are going for high productivity equipment ready for a scenario where all the coal that is for exploration such as hydrostatic drills. despatched in future would be washed. We Previously we used to have only mechanical are working towards that scenario. drills, but now we are switching to and made more stringent. So, we should be Yet another major initiative/idea being hydrostatic drills. I think 11 hydrostatic taken by CMPDI is that of converting drills have already been put to use. mined opencast pits into large water A hydrostatic drill is a very competent reservoirs. This idea was floated by our that coal. Coal secretary Anil Swamp has recently visited Jharkhand and held meetings with state government officials to discuss the progress of that plan. He also met with officials of Bharat Coking Coal Ltd (BCCL) in Dhanbad. He has asked them to submit proposals on additional investment requirements for construction and rehabilitation packages and said that he would place the same before the Cabinet. He also asked CMPDI and BCCL about the quantity of coal that will be available in the proposed rehabilitated area to work out the economics. We are working 10 I Coal Insights. January 2016 Statistically, we consider that our total coal bearing area is around 18,000 sq km. Out of that, 7000- 8000 sq km has been explored in detail and the balance area is yet to be explored. COVER STORY for example, we are drilling hole from the former CMD A K Debnath. I personally of these countries. The scenario that am of the view that opencast reservoirs Australia or the US or China has is entirely surface, putting explosive and blasting so could be very good instruments for water different from what we have in India. They that the whole area caves down. If this can conservation. In places where there is water are having hundreds of kilometres of open be done, only then the longwall panel would scarcity, these reservoirs can be a vital source land. They do not have any land issues. be successful. for water. Our coal companies, in contrast, do not But, there is only a very limited number have such luxury. There are a number of of properties where we can have that kind of 200-300 metres depth would be of little use residential properties, railway lines, roads, luxury or comfort. as there will not be any marine life. But let villages etc. in our coal mine areas. Some people may say a reservoir of say, me assure that during my visit to Geneva, We cannot plan for those types of mines Another problem we face is the heterogeneity of coal formation. Whatever coal formation we have has its origin in I was told the depth of the Geneva Lake where we start the depillar operation and do is just 300 metres. Actually, we are doing continuous depillaring. That is one crucial the drift theory. Our geological structure is doubt that such reservoirs will help recharge point. Another point is that the geological very complicated and difficult throughout the water table, more than compensating position is very different for our country. Coalfield (ECL) area is entirely different the ground water depletion due to mining If you have gone through the history of from that of say, Jharia or Maharashtra. So, activity in an area. When the government is coal mining, (you'll see that) we never had the structure is very different technologically talking about river interlinking, we should a very successful long wall mining or long promote this new source of water that the cave-in operation since 1915 when Bengal also. Yet another handicap is that we could Coal started mining in India. They were not develop our own indigenous equipment. a R&D study on this subject. There is no mining sector can offer. the country. The coal formation in Eastern doing underground mining in a successful Initially, MAMC and some other companies Despite all the good work done by you, manner in the UK, but in India, they were were making underground equipment for us, concerns are being raised about India's only going for conventional board and but those companies have closed operations lack of technological advancement in the pillar method and semi-mechanised mining and we do not have any major indigenous fields of mining, especially underground because they also knew that this strata is not equipment maker now. The requirements mining, and energy. Questions are being easily cave-able and so they had to go for are different at different places and as such asked about the role of indigenous research alternative way of mining. nothing much can be done according to a is your take on this? extent by induced blasting from surface uniform plan. These are the reasons why we could not There are a lot of mining institutes who where there is say, 100 metres or 50 metres be successful in mass scale underground have been doing a lot of research work in of overburden. We have certain projects mining. The only thing that we could do is underground mining across the countries. in South Eastern Coalfields Ltd (SECL) deployment of continuous miners, which is where we are using this method. In Jhanjhra, an upgraded version of SDL of LSD mining institutes like CMPDI and CIMFR. What We have to see the geo-mining conditions This problem could be solved to some and is a faster method of production. That is the only system which is successful right now and is being adopted in a number of mines. The government has been talking about increasing the use of mass production technology like longwall for underground mining. Do you think longwall mining is viable in our country? There are very few patches in India where longwall mining could be successful. These could be places like Moonidih and Jhanjhra where longwall di-pillaring can be done on a vast area of land. So I don't think we have much scope for longwall mining as the geomining conditions are not suitable. And this is not true only for Coal India. You must have noticed that among all the captive blocks allocated in last 20 years, 12 | Coal Insights, January 2016 COVER STORY there are hardly one or two underground blocks that have had started operations. Actually, the block owners were mainly interested in opencast projects. Even last year, when 68 blocks were offered, all the public sector companies got only opencast mines. I don't think any of the underground blocks, which were closed because of the Supreme Court order, have commenced production after re-allocation. There were a couple of projects in Mand Raigarh, but so far as my knowledge goes they have not After 10-15 years, there may not be that much requirement of coal in the country. So we are trying to foray into other kinds of services. These are at the planning stage now. Our minister has also suggested that we should venture into iron ore exploration, other minerals, limestone or these types of deposits. started production to date. Basically, underground mining in India is a challenging task, more so because the quality of coal is not that good. If someone is investing so much money, he should get the return as well. We are not getting sufficient internal investment return (IIR) for those projects and that is one of the main reasons why we are not doing it. which had identified those blocks for ultra- super critical thermal power stations end users. That committee had identified of 800 MW capacity. BHEL and NTPC are which block would be given to which end working on the project. We had discussions use sector. At that time, this question of with one of their senior officials and he commercial mining was not raised. They said that they are working on such a high had identified which blocks would be given to power sector, steel sector or non-core capacity power station. So, basically our R&D focus has been on sector. And there were some of the blocks the use of inferior quality coal. Japan, on the which they recommended for CIL. These other hand, generally uses high quality coal. not be viable and if they are not viable, recommendations were given by that Naturally, their technology will be more there is no question of putting money on committee, but I am not too sure about the suitable for their type of plants. them. commercial mining part. When coal secretary visited Jharkhand companies like BHEL and NTPC are These projects, on a standalone basis, will For our country, the technology that The government has planned to allot some last time in December, he said to the adopting, to my view, are more suitable for mines to private sector for commercial Chief Secretary of the state to come to our conditions. This however is my personal view on the matter. mining, but the popular view is that Coal Ministry and talk to D N Prasad to commercial mining will be successful only select a good block and go for commercial if large projects are given. Can we say mining. This was so because coal extracted In recent past, the environment ministry that the initiative to bring in mining on from commercial blocks mined by state had expressed doubts on CIL's data commercial basis cannot be successful as far governments will go to end users in micro, on afforestation, which is something as underground mining is concerned? small and medium enterprises (MSME) unprecedented. What caused this For commercial mining, again, I think again sector. The issue was raised because there discrepancy between CIL's claims and the target will be opencast projects. Initially, was a complaint that CIL is not supplying government's views on the former's only opencast projects will be given because coal to small consumers. afforestation drive? Japan has recently unveiled its High I think the Ministry of Environment, Forests and Climate Change (MoEFCC) immediate return will come only from those projects. I don't think there will be viability Efficiency Low Emission (HELE) was not sure if CMPDI or CIL has that But these questions will arise only technology for thermal power plants. This much information or data to prove its claim. after there is a final decision arrived at on is something, experts say, will save the day commercial mining. Let the government for coal in future. Don't you think Indian in underground projects now. But we know that the concerned department at CMPDI has been allot such mines and then only anything can energy research is grossly lacking in the undertaking this exercise for pretty long a be said. areas of clean energy and energy efficiency? period and has done a lot of work in last I have a different view on this, so because if It is learnt that the government has already you compare the coal reserves of our country 4-5 years. Whatever presentations were given were based on thorough studies and identified a few big projects for commercial with that of other countries, you will notice data. Our people compiled data sourced mining. What was CMPDI's involvement that we have huge resources, but of very from each CIL subsidiary and used remote in the process? inferior quality. That is why NTPC Ltd sensing tools to check the veracity of the This exercise must have been undertaken has gone for super critical thermal power information. However, when they gave by Ministry of Coal as they have a list of stations and ultra-super critical thermal presentation to the ministry, the latter did all 204 blocks. There was a committee power stations. Now, they are planning for not believe it. 14 | Coal Insights, January 2016 COVER STORY is quite different now. We did not get heavy equipment for CIL?The committee National Remote Sensing Agency (NRSA), sufficient number of bids last time and the had reportedly submitted its views but Hyderabad, and told them what our system pressure of work on CMPDI is much less nothing was heard after that. is and how we have prepared this report. than what we had last year. This matter was discussed at a meeting So, we got it confirmed through When NRSA gave in writing that whatever One of the reasons for this lukewarm at CIL recently, where I was present as a we have claimed is correct, we went back to response could be the low prices of coal MoEFCC and presented our views along in the international markets. Coal is the committee formed for the purpose have with the recommendation of NRSA. Then easily available offshore and they are a lot changed. only they agreed. cheaper now. This has not only affected A report has been submitted and has the response from potential bidders but been circulated to the concerned authorities. CMPDI on December 31,2015. He may also have dented the enthusiasm Presently, comments of the concerned suggested that we should come up with of block allottees. So far, out of 68 department are being awaited. Let us see some app or internet based display system captive blocks allotted, only about 9 have what happens. The call is to be taken by where we can upload all information resumed production, whereas 42 blocks Coal India. regarding the plantation work being done were under production last year. There Recendy, the coal minister visited member. Actually, a number of members of by CIL, technical reclamation, biological is lack of enthusiasm as cheap coal is CMPDI has done some exemplary work on reclamation, mining (done out of that area), available. Also, there are a lot clearance land acquisition at Mahanadi Coalfields Ltd etc. This information can be uploaded on a issues in different states which could be (MCL). Could you elaborate the success of daily basis. delaying production. that project? Are you going to replicate the Now, that responsibility has been given same in other CIL subsidiaries? to CIL and we are working on it. Hopefully, What could be the remedial steps for we will soon come out with some system restarting production from already that will make such information available operating captive blocks? to general public. This will be a good The central and state governments wall have initiative and bring further transparency to take a call on this. There are some cases PAP would go up invariably as construction into the working of CIL. We are presently pending before the Supreme Court as well. work started at a particular site. So, MCL Actually, this issue was put up before CMPDI by MCL, which was shelling out a lot of compensation to project affected persons (PAP). But then, the number of discussing how to implement the same. We I think the main hurdles are transfer of land requested CMPDI to suggest ways to record want each and every project to upload its and other state related issues which could the exact number of people getting affected. imagery from its end, so that everybody can not be sorted out till now. Subsequendy, CMPDI approached NRSA see it. .That said, I must convey that CIL is Don't you think clubbing captive region for a particular period of time. not involved in any false reporting. This is a consumption and commercial sale of surplus Imageries were taken for a starting date and basic principle on which we work. Whatever production would make a win-win situation the cut-off date to see if there has been any work we do, we report only the hard facts. for government and private miners? change in the pattern of land use in those CIL is always under scrutiny. It is a listed The Coal Mines (Special Provisions) Act company (CIL) and whatever information states that whatever extra production captive areas. Actually, it happens like this. Once an our shareholders need we have to supply the blocks may be having, they can sell it to area is notified for mining, families residing same. Coal India and Coal India will take only there start erecting new structures and service charges and I don't think it will earn dividing their families into smaller units, After the initial rounds of e-auction of blocks, it appears that the government has for high resolution imagery of the concerned profit out of that coal. Thus, there is already provision for so as to claim maximum compensation possible. slowed down because they did not receive bringing the additional production from good response from bidders. Do you think captive blocks to the market. However, the Supreme Court and the court there is need to restructure the auction things turned otherwise in some cases accepted our stand on compensation and model to make it more industry friendly? encountered before de-allocation. It maintained that from that day (cut-off day) This is government's prerogative. And I am was reported that some of the operating onwards, the encroachers should not be not aware about what is happening in MOC blocks were producing surplus coal but not compensated. at this moment. So, I don't think I will be bringing it to CIL. They were not even able to comment on what the government's reporting the same; instead were selling that and NCL to replicate this process in regions strategy is. However, it is a fact that we did coal in grey market. under their command areas. Now that we Now, our report was put up before Later on, we were requested by ECL have successfully done it for MCL, we not get that much enthusiasm or response from bidders as we got in the first and What happened to the government's effort are ready to help out any company that second tranche of bidding. The scenario to revise the tendering process to procure approaches us for this purpose. 16 | Coal Insights, January 2016 COVER STORY Earlier, around 2007-08, we had Please tell us about the status of land Is there any rethinking about coal-to- digitisation initiative of CMPDI. prepared some documents on how we liquid (CTL) projects which were shelved This is an ongoing project and we are still should go for UCG projects. I think a sometime ago? working on it. We have done some work at tendering was held and some interests There is an economic consideration attached Central Coalfields Ltd (CCL), but the project were received, but after that, there was no to CTL projects. Today, imported oil prices a comprehensive project on the request of progress. UCG is a more eco-friendly source than have come down substantially. I am not sure Coal India which wants to put information coal. In fact, coal bed methane (CBM), coal oil prices. If people are not ready to invest in of all its subsidiaries on a single platform. It is mine methane (CMM), coal seam gas all are coal blocks, who will go for investing on the basically at the discussion stage and we are yet cleaner energy sources. elaborate infrastructure required for CTL was not completed. Now, we are working on As for viability, I will not rule out UCG to decide on the exact model, scope of work, extent of CMPDI's involvement, etc. What we want to make clear is that (saying) that it will not work in India. At if CTL projects are viable at present level of projects? Let us wait for another 4-5 years and see...! the same time, we need to create proper CMPDI may maintain the system, but infrastructure to tap this source. As far as Why can't CMPDI be party to joint should not be given the task to maintain and reserves are concerned, I think they were international projects in the energy sector? update the entire databank. This data has to established when the documents were come from individual projects and should be prepared last time. Basically, these deposits should be uploaded by the individual subsidiaries. We would like to restrict our role to maintaining isolated properties, not minable, not of any the platform and processing the database commercial use by any public or private only. sector entities and must not pose any There are certain things that CMPDI danger to human habitation. For UCG, will not be able to do, which includes a major concern is that of groundwater online data collection, data uploading and contamination. So, adequate hydrological studies need data monitoring. We cannot pursue each and every project to send their data. It has to be carried out. There should not be any to come voluntarily and monitored at the water table or ground water source in that subsidiary level. Overall, this is a huge exercise and I don't want to fix any deadline right now. area. Reserves that qualify for these safety criteria may be used for UCG projects. The gas we get from UCG is very useful for power, fertilizers and other projects. Recently, the government has come out There are some countries where UCG is with a draft policy on underground coal being used as a fuel source. In India, getting gasification (UCG). Do you see any environmental clearance for such projects potential for UCG in India? will be a major challenge. Let us see...if the We are yet to receive the policy; so cannot really comment on it. government is serious about it, they must find out ways. We are working in tandem with a number of leading research institutes of the country. As I said, we are working with the national remote sensing organisations. For environmental monitoring, we get satellite data from remote sensing. We are also working with Forest Research Institute, Dehra Dun, and with Geological Survey of India (GSI), etc. We are taking help of all these organisations. Currently, our project requirements are successfully met with from these collaborations. When we will have larger scale requirement, we may surely think in that direction. How do you view CMPDI's role in India's energy matrix ten years down the line? After 10-15 years, there may not be that much requirement of coal in the country. So we are trying to foray into other kinds of sendees. These are at the planning stage now. Our minister has also suggested that we Jharia coalfield has total deposits of around 30 billion tons of coking should venture into iron ore exploration, other coal and the area where it can be near future, coal exploration services may easily mined is having a deposit of around 1 billion tons. But that area is under fire and there are townships, habitation, railways and highways. So, around 1 billion tons of coking coal is lying blocked in those areas. minerals, limestone or these types of deposits. This is a good suggestion, because in not be required at a large scale. This is so because coal lying below 500 metres may not be economically viable for mining. So, CMPDI may not be having much of work to do after ten years if we remain engaged in coal exploration only. So, we have to diversify. CBM, UCG, shale gas, exploration of minerals other than coal could be potential areas of diversification for us. Also, we can work in solar power by forming joint ventures/ subsidiaries with other companies. • 18 | Coal Insights, January 2016