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APRIL 2013
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Volume 40, No. 4 • April 2013
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Published By the International Comanche Society, Inc.
ICS President
Zach Grant
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CONTENTS
2 Letter from the President
Comanche Spirit
4 The Circle of Life
Printer
10 ICS Board of Directors, Tribe Chiefs,
& Tribe Representatives
ICS Standing Committees
11 Maintenance Resource Advisors
ICS Tool Loan Program
CFF-Trained CFIs
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Tom Larkin’s Twin Comanche, N7708Y.
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Tom Larkin
9 Letter to the Editor
Graphic Design
Brandon Hoffman
Zach Grant
ICS News
12 ICS Tent Staffing at AirVenture
PDF Download Problems on ICS Web Site
14
Pat Donovan
Feature
Comanche Flyer Needs your Stories, Tips and Tricks!
15 ICS Name Badge Order Form
Online Intelligence
16 Oil Change Increments
Convention News
20 Remarkable places to fly in the Pacific Northwest, Part 2
Jay Hulbert
24 40th Anniversary Cruise
28
Feature
Comanche Care, Part 3
Patricia Keefer
34 ICS Membership Renewal Form
35 From the Tribe Chiefs
44 ICS Items for Sale
46 Comanche Classifieds
47 Advertisers’ Index
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Comanche Flyer •
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LETTER FROM THE PRESIDENT
A
funny thing happened on
the way to the museum ...
or scrap yard; value was
found and the machinery
was resurrected to new, if not better.
This statement could apply to many
different mechanical items such as cars,
tractors, and old wood boats, but none
more so than perhaps the airplanes
built between 1946 and 1976! If you
are reading this, I hope you realize the
same value in your Comanche and are
doing more than the minimum required
to keep an old airplane airworthy. Yes,
there are those aircraft that are out
there that need help, and there are
those in the fleet that have no faults,
but I believe most of them fall somewhere in between. So how do you use
your valuable asset? We would love to
find out your particular story, but here
are a few of the common answers I’ve
heard so far.
• MyComancheismyprideandjoy.
It gives me a good reason to go to
the airport. I don't get to fly too
much anymore, but I like the airport camaraderie; I like to tinker;
and rubbing the paint down with a
soft, cotton towel after a new coat
ofwaxistherapeutic.
• IflymyTwinComancheasmuch
asIcan.Iwantedtogetintoflying
professionally but needed hours,
andIboughtabargaintwinco.I’ve
done a few things to her, but mostly
justflownlotsofhours.Thefirst
few months were rough with a lot
of repairs, but now it is as reliable
asIhadhoped.
• MyComancheislikemycar.Iuse
it for running errands, as well as
tripstoworkatremotesites.Italso
sees its fair share of family outings
tokeepeveryonehappy.
• Iprobablyhavemoreairplanethan
Ineed,butyoucan’tjustifyanairplane, so it is what I want! I mostly
goonflightsoflessthananhour.It
usually involves food, friends, and
lots of fun, and I find it much more
Comanche Flyer Submission Guidelines
All members are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
the Comanche Flyer. If you have an article about a maintenance event,
trip, piloting technique, or anything else pertinent to Comanche
ownership, please share it with your fellow members.
For those with access to the Internet, please submit the article
via e-mail, preferably in Microsoft Word. You may also include the
article in the body of your e-mail message. Include your full name,
as you would like it published, and your ICS number.
Please attach digital pictures, if applicable, in jpeg format.
For best results, use the highest resolution setting your camera
will allow. Photo files under 500 kb in size typically do not
reproduce well.
Although submissions are reviewed for technical accuracy, the
information in this magazine is meant for reference only. Any
modifications, alterations, or major repairs to U.S. aircraft require
FAA-approved data as a basis for beginning work, and as such should
not be based solely on information contained in this magazine. The
International Comanche Society does not endorse any piloting
adverse to published FAA regulations.
Submissions are subject to editing and revision unless specifically requested to be published as submitted. The right is reserved
to publish or not, any submission.
Deadline for all submissions is the 20th of the month, approximately 40 days prior to month of publication.
Send to: Kim Blonigen, Managing Editor at [email protected]
Articles and photos may also be sent via U.S. Mail to:
Kim Blonigen • 2031 South Beech • Wichita, KS 67207
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referred
gratifying than throwing money at
the boat I used to own!
These are all stories about airplane
ownership that have been told, sent to
me, or I have overheard in conversations. You may fit into one of these
categories, but you may also have an
entirely different take on owning an
airplane, specifically a Comanche. I can
tell you that my “ah-ha” moment came
recently. My wife and I were out with
her old roommate from college having
a fun day at the park with her daughter. They were talking about vacations,
travel, and what it took to get around
with all the stuff needed to support a
14-month-old child. The topic of air
travel came up. Being as we were in
Florida visiting them, my wife’s friend
made the comment that it must be nice
to be able to just get in your own plane
and fly wherever, whenever and with
whatever you want. There was no jealousy in the comment, just a statement
of fact. I immediately thought about
how we use the airplane. It is, to us,
simply another vehicle – the ultimate
off-road vehicle that can take us far
away from cold and nasty weather, and
enables us to see the sun on all but the
stormiest of days. It is my car, my SUV,
and sometimes my pickup truck! It is
an invaluable tool without which my
life would be VERY different!
Next time you think about why you
pay the bills on your airplane, write
it down! We would love to hear your
stories – short or long. We will also be
running associated surveys in the ICS
email newsletter, so be sure to answer,
and let us all know what owning a Comanche really means to you!
Zach Grant
ICS Past Presidents
2009-2010
Bernie Mazurek
1990
George Burson
2007-2008
Dave Fitzgerald
1989
William Creech
2006
Lawrence Paratz
1988
Jim Fox
2005
Karl Hipp
1987
Pat Rowe
2004
Skip Dykema
1986
Ted Peifer
2003
John Van Bladeren
1985
Bill Shank
2002
Larry Rackley
1984
Jerry Irvin
2001
Robert Noble
1983
Bill Stanyer
2000
David Buttle
1982
Norn Berneche
1999
Roy Roberts
1981
Ben Kitchens
1998
Harley McGatha
1980
Jack Holaway
1997
Charles Wiseman
1979
Larry Larkin
1996
Bryce Campbell
1978
Clifford Younger
1995
Jess Bootman
1977
Art Shriver
1994
Chuck Medicus
1976
Mike Keedy
1993
Dale Vandever
1975
George Smith
1992
Bill Jackson
1974
Paul Rechnitzer
1991
Martin Busch
1973
Andy Speer
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C O M A N C H E
The Circle
of Life
by Tom Larkin
Larry Larkin’s first Comanche, N6337P,
which he had for about 10 years.
The Twin Comanche, N7908Y,
which Larry Larkin owned for
almost 20 years.
A
s long as I can remember, I’ve
loved Comanches and flying.
However, when I look back,
I don’t think I had much of a choice.
Allow me to explain what I call “the
circle of life.”
When my dad was a young man,
he had always wanted to fly. Coming
from humble beginnings, and without
a higher education, it seemed to be a
distant dream. Add to that a tour of
duty in a war, and a new wife and four
kids, and the closest he could get to
flying was the first generation of radio4 • Comanche Flyer
controlled (RC) airplanes. However, as
the story is told, that all changed one
fateful day when the new RC airplane
he had some $300 wrapped into, lost
control and crashed. Deprived of his
new toy and depressed at his loss, he
came upon an ad in the paper for a
one-fifth share of an Ercoupe for only
$500. Here was his chance to fly the
real thing at the same basic cost as
one of his models … life would never
be the same.
He whisked through lessons to get
his private pilot’s license, and set off
the following week to fly from San Jose,
Calif. to Bloomington, Ill. to show off his
new skills to his mom and siblings. Yes,
over the Rockies and across the country
with 85hp, a pack of cigarettes, and a
full tank of gas … that’s how it was done
in the 60s! Realizing the challenges of
paying for his new hobby with a family
to support, he quickly became an instructor to earn pay while flying. Some
five years later and after a few moves,
he became the proud new owner of a
slightly used Comanche 180 – N6337P.
(continued on page 6)
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Spirit
Tom and Bud Larkin
who flew 7708Y to
surprise Larry for
his 80th birthday.
COVER STORY
Larry and Tom with the younger Larkin’s Twin Comanche.
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Volunteer Pilots
Needed
Volunteer Pilots
Needed
Volunteers flying for the
environment since 1979.
Volunteers flying for the
environment since 1979.
Tom Larkin’s Twin
Comanche, N7708Y.
poodle in one of our laps. It probably
While I don’t necessarily remember
wouldn’t have been too bad if I didn’t
a lot about that airplane, I can vividly
remember many a day fighting off moshave a problem with air sickness! (For
With the money from the sale of
Phone:
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quitoes
while307-332-3242
handing my dad a wrench
some reason, nobody
wanted
to sit next
his single and a new partner, my dad
out on
the ramp at Boca Airport. It was
to me. I’ve since
recovered from that
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became the proud new owner of a Twin
problem, but I digress.) At about the
the beginning of a relationship that my
Comanche – N7980Y. As with most
10-year point, my father saw the need
brother, Bud, and I still cherish, as we
partnerships, this one came to an end
both still fly and work in aviation. My
for a twin. In those days, his employer,
fairly quickly. My dad got transferred
father was a proud Comanche 180
IBM, would reimburse him for the gas
to Atlanta, so he was forced to buy out
used on business trips. Since a lot of
owner for approximately 10 years. We
his partner’s half. The love affair with
his flying was at night or IFR, he felt a
took family vacations with him and my6th Vertical
N7980Y lasted almost 20 years! There
mom in the front seat, and the four of
twin would be safer … and so a new
were many trips to ICS meetings and
us kids shoved into the back with our
chapter began.
events with my mom, business trips, vacations, and even the occasional lesson
which added up to some 2,500 hours in
my dad’s logbook. The Comanche never
let him down, and on two occasions,
that second engine came in real handy,
if you know what I mean.
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During this time, my father served
in many capacities with the ICS. We
all remember the year he was president, and we had what we viewed as
the “red” phone in our house for ICS
business. Back then, none of the kids
were allowed to answer that phone; it
was for ICS business only! It’s funny
how life used to be.
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As you would expect, my dad came
in town to give me advice on both flying
and maintaining my airplane, and he
was the first person I took for a ride.
I’m embarrassed to say his landings
were considerably better than mine,
but he’s had more practice! His knowledge of the systems was invaluable. I
even called him one time from my cell
phone when I had a challenge with my
gear. I wanted to make sure I was using
the right procedure for alternate gear
extension. I guess I got it right, because
it rolled to a stop!
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My father eventually sold his Twin
Comanche about the time I was leaving the Air Force, and I really wanted
to buy it. But with no certainty of my
future and a new set of twins (the real
kind), I just couldn’t do it. After the
sale of the Twin Comanche, my dad
would go flying with us when he came
to visit. I managed to get him up several
times in an RV-6, RV-7, Christen Eagle,
and I even bought him a ride in a P-51
Mustang, but it just wasn’t the same. He
is a Comanche man at heart. So about
two years ago, I got the opportunity to
buy a very used Twin Comanche for
a great price, and I jumped on it. My
“very own” Twin Comanche – N7708Y.
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always wanted to take him up for “just
one ride!” During one of my lower
points in life when I was a furloughed
airline pilot, Bud bought me a ride in
a Decathalon to keep me motivated
about flying. Some six months later,
he and I went into partnership on
our first airplane, an RV-6. I can still
remember calling my dad and sending him pictures. One of my proudest
moments was taking him up in our
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little tail-wheel time in his logbook,
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were as sharp as ever.
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Bud (left) and Tom
(right) with their
dad, Larry, taking
in some aviation.
Larry with the P-51 Mustang he got to fly.
The “Twinkie,” as we refer to her,
has been a great airplane. Bud and
I used it to surprise my dad for his
80th birthday, and I took a “Daddy
and Daughter” trip to Oshkosh last
year. We flew there in formation with
a Turbo 210, and we put in less gas
than the 210 after four-and-a-half hours
of flying! I love my twin. However, as
things change and families change, so
do planes. I am back with the airlines
and I have no time to travel, so I am
selling the twin for now to get back into
aerobatics with a Staudacher. I fully
expect to have a Twinkie again in the
future, so I will stay an ICS member, but
for now it just won’t pull enough “Gs”.
What is my most memorable trip in
a Comanche? That’s easy. It was a trip
with my father for our very first visit
to Oshkosh. It was two weeks before I
entered the Air Force and essentially
moved away from home forever. My
second most memorable trip was taking
my daughter there 28 years later. To
most, Oshkosh is a convention centered
around experimental aircraft. But to
me, the Comanche is a pivotal part of
my best memories at Oshkosh.
guess what he’s building in his garage?
A brand new RC PA-30 Twin Comanche
with electric engines, flaps, gear, and all
the bells and whistles! I’m not sure who
wants to see it fly more, my dad or me.
I am very blessed that my dad is still
around. Most people don’t realize how
great their dad is until he’s gone. I realize it every chance I have to talk with
him. If you haven’t guessed it yet, my
dad is the legendary Comanche Guru
(at least in my eyes) Larry Larkin – a
great pilot, a great friend, and an awesome dad.
The RC Twin Comanche that Larry is building in his garage.
So what’s this about the circle of
life? You see, now that I am based in
Houston, I can drive to visit my dad
in Georgetown, Texas on my days off.
And guess what we do when we’re together? We go out to the field and fly
RC airplanes together once again. As
always, his landings are better than
mine, but he has more practice! And
APRIL 2013
LETTER TO THE EDITOR
Ditching a Comanche
F
lying back to LAX from TPA February 12, 2013, my seat row
partner was talking about your organization. I mentioned to him
that I was a Comanche 250 owner until I made an emergency
ditching off the coast of Catalina, Calif. on Easter Sunday 1987 at 7:30
p.m.
I thought I should write your group about this incident because there
are some very interesting facts about ditching a Comanche. Maybe your
archives already have this information and a few Comanches have already
“shown the way” to a successful ditching. I was clueless as to what I was
doing as N5596P made its last turn to avoid a sailboat mast at Two Harbors
Marina. I leveled the wings and flew it into the ocean...absolutely focused
on making the smoothest landing I could.
We had all donned life vests just minutes earlier. The nano-second I felt
the belly touch water, I pulled the throttle back and gave a strong full aft
pull on the wheel. We decelerated smoothly, and literally skied across the
water like only your imagination could dream of. My most enlightening
discovery, post-water landing, was the stabilator and water impact. I
believe the stabilator acted as a diving wing and dove the empennage down
which kept the nose up and allowed for a smooth deceleration.
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2012-2013
ICS Board Of Directors
President:
Secretary:
Vice President
Treasurer:
Zach Grant, ICS #15515, NC Tribe
6736 Chapel Hill Rd.
Indianapolis, IN 46214
Cell: (317) 201-4293
Bob Cretney, ICS #2269, SC Tribe
428 McDaniel Rd
Ferris, TX 75125
Cell: (214) 725-6584
Jerry Jesion, ICS #14746, NC Tribe
26980 Coachlight
Woodhaven MI 48183
Ph: (734) 692-6152
Pat Donovan, ICS #12246, MS Tribe
421 Piper Ct.
Troy, MO 63379
Phone: (636) 462-8370
Past President:
Bernie Mazurek, ICS #7947, NC Tribe
7612 Camminare Dr.
Sarasota, FL 34238
Ph: (941) 922-7931
Cell: (734) 717-4946
CFF President: (non-voting)
Lorne Harmon, ICS #12436, SW Tribe
1491 Northridge, Prescott, AZ 86301
Ph: (928) 717-2630
Tribe Representatives and Chiefs
Southeast:
Tribe Chief/Tribe Rep Phillip Hobbs, ICS #10509
Ph: (704) 360-4754
Northeast Tribe
Tribe Chief/Tribe Rep Bernie Stumpf, ICS #7300
25 Littlebrook Rd.
Westerly RI 02891
Ph: (401) 348-0997
North Central:
Tribe Chief Bob Williams, ICS #13853
647 Robins Gate
Akron, OH 44319
Ph: (330) 867-6711
Cell: (330) 592-3111
Tribe Rep Cliff Wilewski
1651 Grumman Drive
Rockford IL 61109
Ph: (815) 395-0500
Cell: (815) 979-7785
Mid States:
South Central:
Europe:
Tribe Rep Hugh Hunton, ICS #6821
2569 Barron Road
Keithville LA 71047
Ph: (318) 925-2302
Tribe Rep Monica Rehkopf, ICS #14462
Am Loh 5
Siggenhofen 85570 Germany
Ph: 49-8121-229333 (h)
49-8121 229333 (w)
Tribe Chief Bob Cretney, ICS #2269
428 McDaniel Rd
Ferris, TX 75125
Ph: (214) 725-6584
Cell: (214) 725-6584
W. Canada:
Tribe Chief/Tribe Rep Ken Mori, ICS #3894
1433 Copper Mountain Court
Vernon BC V1B 3Y7 Canada
Ph: 250-545-2491 (home)
E. Canada:
Tribe Chief/Tribe Rep Stewart Campbell, ICS #16294
229 Yellow Birch Drive
Kitchner ON N2N 2P4 Canada
Ph: (519) 568-7491
Tribe Chief/Tribe Rep Carl M Talkington, ICS #3208
180 Peregrine Circle
Broomfield CO 80020-1275
Ph: (303) 460-8127
Cell: (720) 560-4862
Southwest:
Tribe Chief Ed Moore, ICS # 12926
456 S Sierra Way
San Bernardino CA 92408-1425
Ph: (909) 888-9859
Tribe Rep Scott Myers, ICS #16819
1041 Jasmine Ct.
Vista, CA 92081
Ph: (760)727-7444 (w)
Cell: (760)-519-8604
Northwest:
Tribe Chief Dennis Springer, ICS #10237
4796 Drew St. N.E.
Salem, OR 97305
Ph: (503) 390-9444
Tribe Rep Bill Case, ICS # 16889
P.O. Box 549
Lebanon OR 97355
Ph: (541) 259-5557
Cell: (503) 260-2473
Tribe Chief Barrie Taylor, ICS #13930
16 Church Lane
South Creake
NR21 9LX UK
Ph: 00 44 1328823560
S. Africa:
Tribe Chief/Tribe Rep Russell Knowles, ICS #16469
Box 1114, Halfway House
1685 South Africa
Ph/Fax: +27 11 8052902
Cell: +27827809228
Australia:
Tribe Chief/Tribe Rep John Moore
10 Cooper Grove
Strathfieldsaye VIC 3551 Australia
Ph: +61-3-5439-3293
2012-13 ICS Standing Committees & Chairpersons:
Historical – Chair: Bruce Thumann, SC
Information Technology – Chair:
Dave Fitzgerald, NC
Technical Resources – Chair:
Zach Grant, NC
Finance & Budget – Chair:
Pat Donovan, MS
Bylaws, Standing & Special Rules – Chair:
Don W. Nelson, NW
Nominating – Chair: Dave Fitzgerald, NC
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Flagship – Chair:
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Elections – Chair: Sally Williams, SE
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Editorial Committee:
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Dave Fitzgerald, NC
Lorne Harmon, SW
Hank Spellman, NC
Fleet Airworthiness – Chair:
Dave Fitzgerald, NC
Fleet Airworthiness Committee:
Hans Neubert, SW –
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Dave Fitzgerald, NC –
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Annual Convention – Chair:
Shirley Nelson, NW
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Comanche Flyer •
11
ICS Tent Staffing at AirVenture
by Pat Donovan
F
or the past several years, ICS has had a tent at AirVenture where we host maintenance seminars, have
refreshments and places for members to rest tired feet,
sell ICS “goodies,” and dish out a huge helping of camaraderie. Last year we had over 75 ICS people stop by, and I even
talked to two folks who were looking to buy Comanches and
wanted the scoop on what to look for, etc.
This coming year, we are planning to have a PA24-250
actually positioned in front of the tent as an enticement for
folks to drop by. EAA requires ICS to staff the tent from 9:00
a.m. – 5:00 p.m. each day and we would like to have two
people there at all times. EAA also gives ICS some entrance
wristbands for our tent “employees.”
Guess what? You can be an “employee” and “earn” a
wristband by working a four-hour shift – either 9:00 a.m. –
1:00 p.m. or 1:00 – 5:00 p.m. This equates to four shifts and
wristbands available per day. Daily wristbands cost $28 or
$43 per day if purchased on site.
I go to AirVenture for many reasons and, yes, one of
them is to talk Comanche at the ICS tent. I suspect many
of you are the same way. So how about signing up to spend
some of your time getting “paid” for doing what you will be
doing anyway?
Thedatesforthisyear’sAirVentureareJuly 29-August 4.
Contact me for details and to get on the schedule. I can
be reached at [email protected] or (636) 462-8370.
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ome members have been having problems opening pdf
files on the ICS web site. Everyone should be running
Adobe PDF Reader, version 11, or a good alternate such
as the PDF reader from Foxitsoftware Foxit Reader.
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Earlier versions of Adobe had a lot of security vulnerabilities and other issues, so most browsers and applications
have started to block the earlier versions.
APRIL 2013
PILOT’S OPERATING HANDBOOK
AND FAA APPROVED
AIRPLANE FLIGHT MANUAL
“Formerly Published And Produced by the late Douglas L. Killough”
Piper Aircraft ceased production of the Comanche and Twin Comanche in 1972,
several years before the General Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA)
established specifications for the contemporary Pilot’s Operating Handbook (POH).
As a result, the Owner’s Handbook published by Piper is incomplete by modern
standards. Now available EXCLUSIVELY from the INTERNATIONAL COMANCHE
SOCIETY, INC., through it’s licensed agents, is the upgraded Pilot’s Operating
Handbook and FAA approved GAMA format Airplane Flight Manual.
Discounted to current ICS members at $75.00 each, plus shipping (must
ask for ICS member discount and provide ICS membership number when
placing order). Available only through Webco Aircraft at 316-283-7929 or
www.webcoaircraft.com. Available Bound or Unbound/Un-punched.
There are SIXTEEN different GAMA format manuals
available for the Piper Single and Twin Comanche.
Please order your manual by “Manual Number 1-16”
from the chart below.
TO ORDER CALL WEBCO AIRCRAFT AT 316-283-7929 OR
WWW.WEBCOAIRCRAFT.COM. Specify “Bound” or “Unbound/Un-punched.”
Order
Qty
Manual
Number
Model
Gross
Weight
Year(s)
Mfg
Flight Manual
Report Number
SN
Begin
SN
End
01.)
180
2550
1957-64
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24-1
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2800
1958-60
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250
2900
1961
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2900
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250
2900
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06.)
260
2900
1965
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4000
4299
07.)
260
2900
1965
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4000
4299
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1966-68
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4300
4803
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260B
3100
1966-68
1358 (Carb)
4300
4803
10.)
260C
3200
1969-72
1545
4804
5028
11.)
260T
3200
1970-72
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4901
5028
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400
3600
1964-65
1295
26-3
148
13.)
PA30
3600
1963-68
1269
30-2
1744
1969
1515
1745
2000
(continued on page 25)
Twins:
14.)
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PA30T
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143
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1515 (Turbo)
1745
2000
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PA39T
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Comanche Flyer •
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FEATURE
Comanche Flyer
Needs your
Stories, Tips
and Tricks!
SEPTEMBER
2012
VOLUME 39,
NO. 9
Publication of
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Share your Comanche Knowledge with your Fellow ICS Members
D
o you have a good technical tip or overhaul story you can share? What about a flying experience or recent instructional
experience where you’d learned a lesson from which all pilots could benefit? Maybe a trip you took in your Comanche
that you’d recommend to others. We also desperately need in-flight photos of your Comanche to feature on the cover
of the Flyer (needs to be at least 1 MB in size to print well). Anything you can share that would be helpful to fellow
ICS members, we need you to send in your information!
You don’t have to be a writer by trade, just put your thoughts down and tell your story – it will be edited, if needed. Below is a
list of regular columns in the Flyer, and a few new ones that have been suggested (the word count provided is only an average to
help guide you).
Cover photo/Comanche Spirit – Not
only do you get to have your Comanche
on the cover of the Flyer, but we like to
feature the owner so ICS members can
get to know you better. You can fill out an
owner questionnaire and the editor will
write a story about you, or you can submit
your own. Average length is 1,000 words.
Maintenance Q & A – Do you have a
question regarding maintenance on your
Comanche? Send it in and we’ll have our
Technical Directors suggest some solutions. As questions come in and a reader
has an alternate solution, they can send
them in as well. This would be an ongoing
format for maintenance discussion.
Letters to the Editor – Send in your
comments about an article you read in a
past Comanche Flyer. Or you can also
send items of interests you’d like to share
with other Comanche owners that may
not be long enough for an article. Really,
we’d like to hear from you!
From the Logbook – If you have a trip
that you’d recommend to other members,
or a particular “adventure” you’ve taken
in your Comanche that you’d like to
share, this is the column! We have
featured trips in story and journal
formats. Average length is 1,500 words.
Technically Speaking – We like to
feature technical information you have
found useful in maintaining your Comanche. Maybe it was an ongoing problem
that you finally found a solution or you
want to warn other owners of an issue that
occurred with your airplane. Anything
technical is featured in this column.
Average length is 500-1,200 words.
Product/Vendor Information – Did
you have a good experience with a
vendor that you’d like to share or have
you recently purchased a product that
you’d recommend to other ICS members?
The best information that most owners
get is from others who have experienced
it, so share with us! Average length is
250-750 words.
Fly-In Reports – A pretty popular
column, but we don’t see the experiences
some of the tribes are having. Send us
your story. We’d like to hear how your
Tribe is getting together and sharing
the camaraderie. Average length is 250500 words.
Best of the Flyer – This is an easy
one. If you know of an article in past
Flyers that you found useful and you
think needs repeating, send a copy and
we’ll reprint it.
If you have a story that you don’t feel
fits into any of the above categories, send
it anyway. Most issues include feature
stories and we’d like to hear from you.
What do you enjoy learning or reading
about in the Flyer? Do you have
something you can contribute? We’d like
to hear from you!
Send your contributions and ideas
to Editor Kim Blonigen at kblonigen@
cox.net, or 2031 S. Beech, Wichita, KS
67207.
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Comanche Flyer •
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ONLINE INTELLIGENCE
Oil Change
Increments
From the Comanche Owner’s Forum
I
have oil that has been in the plane
for about 10 months, but it has only
flown 10 hours or so. It looks clean
as new, but I know it can break down
just sitting. It is EXXON synthetic, top
of their line. Would you fly it, or change
it, simply due to calendar time?
___________________________________
IIRC Lycoming says to change oil
every 50 hours or four months, whichever comes first.
So I’d change it and fly more often.
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I’d change it. A year is enough, I
think. All of my “toys” (mower, garden
tractor, snow blower, ATVs, generators)
get the oil changed at least once a year,
usually more. I use AeroShell 15-50 for
35-45 hours, but, given less flying for
the 310, I’ll change it seasonally, at
least every six months.
As a grizzled old boat diesel mechanic once told me, “oil, filters and
fuel are cheap.”
___________________________________
Thanks. I was just thinking that it
looked new with few hours, and what’s
the difference of it in the sump or in
the bottle? Plus my motor is 1950
hours, so what am I overly concerned
about when oil is six bucks a quart.
But, you are probably right
___________________________________
Oil becomes acidic. In oil before it
is refined sulfur exists, and while it is
treated, some remains in the fuel that
we burn. The residual sulfur goes out
the exhaust, and some is scavenged by
the oil and remains in suspension, along
with lead and carbon. If the sulfur becomes hydrated, it forms sulfuric acid
which then eats away at your engine,
causing pitting.
___________________________________
Your oil looks clean because the
engine is burning cleanly and there is
very little carbon in the oil. That doesn’t
mean that other impurities have not
accumulated.
___________________________________
If you flew the plane now, it’s unlikely that you’d notice any deleterious
effects, but I’d change the oil and the
filter. I’ve found that the lead accumulation in the filter loads up the new oil
immediately, so you should change
both the oil and the filter together.
Pat
___________________________________
Pretty much what Pat said. Because
we are air cooled and have a wider
variation of cylinder temperatures, the
tolerances on our engines are much
greater than a water-cooled engine.
Because of this, there is more blow-by.
These combustion gases make the oil
more acidic. Although conventional
aviation oils have additives to neutralize the acids, these additives become
depleted over time.
___________________________________
Changing the oil in your aircraft
frequently or flying it more often are
essential to the life of your engine.
Corrosion in the cylinders is bad, but
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PERFORMANCE
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Comanche Flyer •
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Lance & Turbo Lance
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rebuilding or replacing cylinders is
much cheaper than a major overhaul
should your cam and lifters become
corroded.
Adding Camguard may help as it
has a very powerful combination of
corrosion inhibitors in addition to seal
conditioners and anti-wear components. I’d be more inclined to extend
the time interval between oil changes
if I used Camguard with my oil.
___________________________________
For me it’s six months or 35 hours
flying time between changes. I can tell
when it’s time because oil consumption increases. Usually I see that somewhere between 30 and 35 hours on
my T210, and closer to 40 hours on
my baby Comanche.
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Thanks. One of my points was that
I have 50 hours left until suggested OH
(1950 approx), so how much damage
can really be a factor on a run-out engine anyway?
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If you let your camshaft corrode and
pit or worse, your crankshaft will cost
more to overhaul.
Gary
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I didn’t catch the hours since overhaul. Still, you might go to TBO-plus if
you take care of the engine. If you are
going to overhaul at TBO, then oil life
is the least of your worries. Writing that
$20,000 check is painful though.
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I think I’ll change it just to help with
going over TBO. Compressions are all
strong, only one below 70 at 69.
Thesepostingsareprovidedforinformationalpurposesonly.Theviews
expressed in these postings represent the opinions of individual Comanche
ownersandhavenotbeenvettedbytheICStechnicalcommittee.
Cost estimated at $25,500 with all
new Lycoming cylinders, plus $3,000
to R&R, which the engine shop doesn’t
do. Cost is $28,500.
Asaresponsiblepilotandaircraftowner,youshouldalwaysseekadvicefrom
anexperienced,trustedsource,suchasyourA&PorCFF-trainedCFI,before
applyinganyofthetechniquesorrecommendationspresentedinthesepostings.
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Comanche Flyer •
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T
he Northwest Tribe is celebrating on land and sea for the 2013
ICS Convention and 40th Anniversary of ICS and we are inviting
you, your family and friends to join us
as we celebrate.
The convention portion will be held
Thursday, June 27 through Sunday,
June 30 at the Holiday Inn in Renton,
Wash. On Sunday, June 30, for those
who choose to do so, we will board
Holland America Cruise Line’s MS
Oosterdam for an ICS 40th Anniversary Cruise to Alaska.
Seminars
We announced earlier that ICS Maintenance Resource Advisor, Cliff Wilewski,
will be presenting the seminars at this
year’s convention. We now have more
details on what they will entail.
• Storiesfromtheshopfloor–the
Good, the Bad, the Ugly.
On Friday morning, Cliff will be
presenting a multimedia seminar on
how to care for, fly, and maintain your
Comanche. A few of the topics discussed will be:
On Saturday morning, Cliff will
present a hands-on seminar at the
airport. This will be similar to the surveys that the CPPP had conducted at
past weekend seminars. Don’t worry if
you are not able to crawl under your
Comanche. With the aid of audio-visual
equipment, Cliff will display on a TV
screen or monitor the different areas of
the airplane so all can see. Cliff will be
looking for potential problems and discrepancies, and also explain the function of certain systems and what to look
for on your own airplane. Whether you
are an owner/pilot, or mechanic, both
of these seminars are for you.
• What’sinvolvedinagoodannual
inspection? What you need to know
to be legal and safe.
• Howmuchwillitcostandwhatcan
I do as the owner/pilot to keep it to
a minimum?
• Pilots:Ijustflyit!Whatyoushould
be aware of.
• Parts, parts, where do I get the
parts?
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Electronic registration
available on the ICS web site
(www.comancheflyer.com).
SAN JUAN PILOTS
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40TH ANNI
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Comanche
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CONVENTION NEWS
Eastside Amble: Enjoy world-class wines
and outdoor activities on the desert side
of the Pacific Northwest
Remarkable places to fly in the Pacific Northwest, Part 2
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SAN JUAN PILOTS
by Jay Hulbert, ICS #15334
T
o help you plan your beforeor after-convention aviating,
we’re offering some insider tips
from the Northwest Tribe on interesting, scenic and fly-friendly places to
visit during your stay in our neck of
the woods.
Last month, we presented a rundown of destinations on the beautiful
San Juan Islands, near our convention
airport. In this issue, we’ll go further
off-shore, flying over the Cascades to
the “dry side” of the Pacific Northwest,
known for its world-class wines and topnotch recreation opportunities.
There are several interesting places
to visit on the eastern sides of Washington and Oregon. Because of its
sunnier year-round climate, eastern
Washington and Oregon are popular
winter getaways for those who miss the
sunshine on the rainier west side of the
Cascades. The area also offers fantastic
opportunities for visitors to experience
a decidedly different brand of Northwest scenery, with a little culture and
recreation thrown in for good measure.
At right, is the schedule for the
convention which will give you a
better idea of what is planned.
APRIL 2013
Days of Wine and … Onions?
Walla Walla, Wash. (KALW) is
widely known for its funny name and
regionally recognized for its eponymous sweet onions (in season during
the convention, by the way). But the
area is also earning a reputation in the
world of fine wine. Vintners such as
DATE DAY
6/27
Thursday
6/28
Friday
6/29
Saturday
6/30
7/7
Sunday
Sunday
TIME
10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
11:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.
5:00 p.m.
9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
8:30 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
4:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m.
6:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m.
6:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.
9:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
9:00 a.m. to 11:30 p.m.
9:30 a.m.
12:00 p.m.
1:00 p.m.
6:00 p.m.
6:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m.
Morning
Morning
Canoe Ridge, Colvin, L’Ecole No 41,
Woodward Canyon, Spring Valley and
Pepper Bridge (www.winesnw.com/
walla.html#Wineries) are receiving
a well-deserved international reputation and, best of all, these Cabernet
Sauvignons and Merlots are a bargain
ACTIVITY
Registration
Hospitality
Tribe Night Dinners (on your own)
Old Board Meeting
Hospitality
Cliff Wilewski Seminars
Tour - Pike Place/Waterfront
Tour - Museum of Flight
CFF Meeting
No Host Cocktails
Dinner &
Annual ICS Membership Mtg.
Airport Activities
Hospitality
Maintenance Seminar
Barbecue Lunch
Flagship Judging
Cocktail hour (no host)
Banquet & Flagship Awards
Transport to Ship
Transport to Hotel
Comanche Flyer •
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compared to their much-hyped California counterparts – and you won’t
encounter the infamous Napa Valley
throngs here, either. Wine tasting in the
Northwest is still a relatively well-kept
secret outside the region, and a much
lower-key event for those who like a
quieter, friendlier atmosphere.
Put Walla Walla on your list as a great
place to stop and enjoy a meal in one
of the many restaurants and cafes that
feature local wine and dishes showcasing those fantastic Walla Walla sweets.
Less than 100 nm from Walla Walla
sits the apple-growing country of Yakima, Wash. (KYKM). The airport has
a nearby golf course, Appletree, as well
as full services. Not known just for its
apples anymore, the Yakima area also
boasts excellent wineries, including Columbia Crest, Hogue and Hedges (www.
winesnw.com/yak.html#Yakima%20
Valley%20East).
Alpine Adventure
Just 62 nm from Walla Walla – and
a world away in topography – lies the
alpine town of Joseph, Ore. (4S3), a
favorite for Northwest Tribe fly-outs.
The town, nestled in an Alpine valley
in the northeastern corner of Oregon,
is known as the state’s “Little Switzerland,” and features beautiful Wallowa
Lake, the rugged Eagle Cap Wilderness
area and nearby Hell’s Canyon, carved
by the Snake River. An aerial tramway provides easy access to 8,150-foot
Mount Howard, where you can lunch
at the Summit Grill while enjoying the
panoramic views.
The small town of Joseph is home
to a large bronze foundry that has attracted many artists and galleries to
the area. To keep up with the resulting
tourist trade, several good restaurants
have opened up, featuring both fine dining and hearty cowboy cooking – fitting,
considering the area’s cattle ranching
roots. See www.josephoregon.com for
more information.
The airport is in excellent condition, but there are limited services and
you should call ahead to verify fuel
availability.
Downtown Walla Walla
Sunriver Resort in Bend, Ore.
There are several great resorts in
the Eastern Washington/Idaho Central
Oregon area, but I’m going to focus on
my personal favorite, Sunriver Resort
(http://www.sunriver-resort.com).
Sunriver is a planned community and
golf/ski resort located near the city of
Bend, and built on the foundation of
Camp Abbot, a World War II training
facility used to train U.S. Army Combat
Engineers. Besides the resort amenities,
Sunriver is a great stop for a fly-in lunch
or Sunday brunch.
The family-friendly resort boasts
a couple of good restaurants, condo
and home rentals, and an impressive
lodge-style hotel. The golf courses are
beautiful, and the Deschutes River runs
right through the property. Activities
include fly fishing, river rafting, horse
and bicycle rentals, golf and, my personal favorite, just hanging out.
The airport is located on the resort
and has an instrument approach and
fuel. When you check in approaching downwind, ask the Unicom to call
the lodge and they’ll have a courtesy
van waiting for you when you taxi in.
Van transportation is complementary
whether you are staying for a week or
just having lunch. Visit www.sunriverresort.com for more information.
Nearby Sunriver sits near the city
of Bend (KBDN), a former logging and
farming town that has become a Mecca for winter skiers and the summer
tourists who come to enjoy fly fishing
and river rafting. Bend boasts a cluster of interesting and fun shops and
several great restaurants including the
nationally acclaimed Blacksmith (casual Northwest-style comfort food), the
Pine Tavern Inn (traditional American,
good steaks) and Ariana Restaurant
(seasonal specialties).
Bend airport is full service.
Next month, we’ll wrap up our
Pacific Northwest flying suggestions
with noteworthy stops in Oregon and
some spectacular flight-seeing along the
state’s rugged coastline.
APRIL 2013
40th Anniversary Jackets and Wine Glasses
T
he Northwest Tribe has designed 40th Anniversary jackets that will be given to
each person attending the convention who registers by April 1. We also have
designed 40th Anniversary wine glasses. These will be used for our banquet on
Saturday evening. At the 2007 convention, there were also wine glasses made. Several members wanted to purchase sets of the glasses and couldn’t because we hadn’t
ordered extra. This year we are giving people a chance to order these glasses if they
place their order before April 30.
The jackets are windproof and water resistant, made with 100% polyester microfiber
fabric with mesh lining. They have full zip front pockets, elastic cuffs and adjustable draw
string. They are navy blue in both men’s and women’s sizes. The cost
is $60.00 for men’s or women’s sizes S-XL, XXL is $62.50, and 3XL is
$64.00, plus a packing and shipping cost of $10.00.
The 40th Anniversary wine glasses are $6.00 each or six for
$30.00, plus $10.00 packing and shipping.
Because these items are 40th Anniversary items, we wanted
to give members that aren’t able to attend the convention in
Renton, Wash. June 27 through June 30 a chance to order,
if you wish.
If you have any questions, email Shirley
Nelson at [email protected] or call
(360) 671-7388.
Information on Registering for the 2013 ICS Convention and Cruise
R
egistration forms are sometimes
hard to understand, so below
are some explanations on a
couple of areas where there might be
a misunderstanding.
3. Hotel reservations can be made
through either Travel Leaders or
directly with the Holiday Inn at 1
(800) 465-4329 (mention the ICS
convention).
1. Registering for the convention is
with the Northwest Tribe and can
be done by email or snail mail.
Payment can be made by check
or by using the Northwest PayPal
sight on the website for credit card
payments.
4. If you use Travel Leaders for your
hotel reservations ((281) 492-2007),
your card will be charged when you
check in at the hotel. IF YOU WANT
TO MAKE ANY CHANGES, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS AFTER
TRAVEL LEADERS HAS MADE
YOUR RESERVATION, YOU MUST
CALL THE HOTEL DIRECTLY TO
MAKE THEM.
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2. Registration for the cruise is with
Travel Leaders Travel Agency only.
5. We will be offering a couple of extra
side trips on Friday and the only
cost will be $20 for transportation, made payable to the Northwest Tribe. Pike Place Market in
Seattle has no charges, and The
Boeing Museum of Flight will have
a ticket cost. That cost can only
be determined by the number of
people interested. As soon as we
have single and group ticket prices,
we will publish them.
APRIL 2013
Comanche Flyer •
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International
Comanche
Society
40th Anniversary Cruise
F
or those of you who signed up to
go on the cruise after the convention, below is some background
information and facts about the MS
Oosterdam – the vessel taking you on
an extraordinary adventurer full of
amazing wildlife, wonderous glaciers
and rustic ports of call.
Officially christened in 2003 by
Her Dutch Royal Highness, Princess
Margriet of the Netherlands, the
MSOosterdam is the second in Holland
American’s series of Vista-class ships.
As such she embraces the latest
industry and environmental technologies such as her use of a diesel-electric
power plant for optimal energy efficiency and an Azipod propulsion system that maximizes maneuverability.
Symbolic of Holland America Line's
more than 135-year history of circumnavigating the globe, the centerpiece
of the MSOosterdam is a magnificent
Waterford crystal globe, prominently
displayed in its three-story atrium.
First-time cruisers aboard this ship
will quickly recognize the traditional
touches that make Holland America
cruisers regulars: a warm palette of
colors accentuating an extensive use
of crystal, marble, inlaid woods and
brass, lovely flower arrangements,
priceless artwork and antiques and a
full wraparound teak promenade deck
with padded deck chairs.
Passenger capacity: 1,916
Crew members: 817
Gross Tonnage: 82,305 grt.
Length: 936 feet
Beam: 105.8 feet
Maximum speed: 24 knots
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DAY
LOCATION
ACTIVITY
Sunday
June 30
Seattle, Washington
Puget Sound
Depart 4:00 p.m.
Scenic cruising
Monday
July 1
At Sea
Tuesday
July 2
Tracy Arm and Twin Sawyer Glaciers
Scenic cruising
Wednesday
July 3
Juneau, Alaska
Full day
Thursday
July 4
Sitka, Alaska
Full day
Friday
July 5
Ketchikan, Alaska
Morning, half day
Saturday
July 6
Victoria, British Columbia
Evening
Sunday
July 7
Seattle, Washington
Arrive 7:00 a.m.
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FEATURE
The Clifton Crew (left to right): Mark Ayers,
David Everett, Rod Allen, owners Jeanni and
Tim Talley, and Albert Quinones.
COMANCHE CARE
PART 3
by Patricia Jayne (Pat) Keefer, ICS #08899
All photos taken by Patricia Jayne (Pat) Keefer unless otherwise noted
T
he title is a dead giveaway.
This is the third in a series of
what happens at the annual
for N3322G. So many folks
have kindly sent positive comments
that I’m writing again. Part One is in
the February 2011 Flyer and Part Two
is in the June 2012 Flyer. They are also
on the ICS website or if you are reading this online, just click http://www.
comancheflyer.com/NS/index-flyersN.
php. Part One has some key points
about why we choose Clifton Aero;
annual expenses; a bit of the story on
our airplane; and why we always take
a post-annual test flight. I won’t repeat
that information here. As requested,
I’ve included more photos of the work.
Our Airplane
two vacuum pumps wasn’t going to be
a big problem because we were only a
few weeks from annual and we didn’t
have anything but our BFRs and an IPC
scheduled. Then in the middle of the
BFRs, Ken and the instructor taxi in
and I think it is my turn to fly until the
instructor gets out and says, “Ken will
brief you.” On his third departure, Ken
noticed there was no gear up light and
the circuit breaker was popped. I swear
if I could easily have reached the main
tire, I would have kicked it. Ken said the
nose gear looked like it was in the well
in the nacelle mirror and it flew like the
mains were up also. The instructor was
preparing to manually extend the gear
which is a fine option, but Ken pulled
out the Comanche Pilot Proficiency
Emergency Procedures checklist and
they got the gear down normally. With a
nice bright green gear down light, they
landed. Ken had also done some good
problem determination and noticed
that the gear motor was warm. We flew
home with the gear down.
Clifton graciously made time for me
to bring in the twin. On the flight to
Clifton, the other vacuum pump failed.
Naturally, I’d made sure it was a good
VFR day, so it was no big deal. Actually,
it was sort of peaceful, like the Cherokee 140 flights of oh, so many years
ago – about 100 knots and no fancy
equipment to worry about. I certainly
didn’t have to worry about coming into
the pattern too fast.
Our 1970 N3322G is PA39-10 and
yes, we renewed its FAA registration
this year. We are the second generation
to own it and have been responsible for
17 annuals, overhaul of the engines,
major panel upgrades, new interior,
new paint, numerous other upgrades
and countless wash jobs.
The Pre-annual
You might ask, what’s a pre-annual?
Well, that’s when expensive stuff breaks
and you don’t want to fly until it gets
fixed. Clifton’s Tim Talley coined this
term. At first I thought losing one of the
New fuel line installed.
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David making the new fuel lines.
Old hoses from check valve (right) to
instruments and check valve (below).
I always find it fascinating when a
mechanic simply touches a plane and
it works. The twin is on jacks and when
I pull up the gear, it fails and pops the
breaker. We put it down, Tim pulls it up
and it operates fine for the next five to
eight or so extensions and retractions.
Tim checked to make sure there was no
excessive friction in the gear system.
I did notice that it was a touch slower
than usual. When we fly, the gear will
go up and down in about a six-count
and it was taking an eight-count. We
swapped the motor for an overhauled
one with Matt Kurke of Comanchegear.
com and all has been well ever since.
The vacuum pumps were interesting as they’d only been installed three
years. All three filters get replaced every annual. When the Rapco distributor
heard this, he suggested we talk directly
to Rapco. The top Rapco guy personally
examined the pumps and there was no
smoking gun – nothing to definitively
point to why they failed. Even though
one was six days past the three-year
warranty, Rapco kindly replaced both at
no charge. We’d had the vacuum check
valve that separates the two pumps so
that if one fails, the vacuum system
still operates, overhauled by Rapco the
previous year and had replaced the
vacuum hoses in the nose compartment. This time we replaced the hoses
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from the check valve to the instruments
even though there was no debris in the
broken pumps, the hoses were old and
we just wanted that extra assurance
that anything in our control to possibly
prevent a future pump failure was done.
Then it is back to flying.
So we got the BFRs completed before expiration, and I got my IPC too.
We only thought we’d scheduled the annual well. We had tried to wait until the
Clifton hangar construction was completed. They had already cleaned and
painted the entire interior, but wind
and weather had delayed the outside
work. The sides and roof panels were
being removed, replaced and insulated.
(Oh well, I got to see pieces removed
every day and replaced. None fell and
the work site was kept clean.)
Even before the month before the
pre-annual we had a little sticker shock
when the Garmin 530W knob broke.
It is a longer story that I posted on the
ICS Maintenance Forum. Just search on
530 knob or $1,300. Yup, it was $1,300
to fix a knob. By the way, the twin flies
fine without the 530 too.
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flying a lot and these Lycomings are
enjoying the attention.” They commented as they had in the past that
running Aeroshell 15W50 does produce
higher copper levels which can hide a
problem with a bushing or other bronze
part, so we need to be sure to check for
metal in the filters. Of course, Albert
did a very thorough inspection and
found no metal in the filters either, so
good news all around. The engines got
18 hours per quart of oil.
Squawks
The list wasn’t too long, but just like
owning a home, there’s always something that needs attention. We knew
the altimeter had passed the static
check but was getting sticky. Rather
than overhaul, we decided to buy a new
one and ordered it in advance of the annual so the downtime was minimized.
The new LED beacon.
The Inspection and a Few Surprises
This year the arrival run-up at 7F7
with owner Tim in the right seat found
no new squawks. Yea! However there
were a couple of surprises. The inspection isn’t expensive – it’s the repairs
we decided to do. Repairs can rack up
some fine totals.
I thought the twin was running
pretty well, so I was quite surprised to
see a fuel stain on the inside of the left
lower cowl and Albert Quinones found
it corresponded to a very tiny fuel leak
in the servo. We sent the servo off for
what we thought was a minor repair. We
put it back on and it was the strangest
engine start I’d ever had. We had to
keep it at 20 inches of manifold pressure just to keep the engine running.
We pulled the servo again, sent it back
and the shop lapped the mixture and
throttle shoes and then the engine ran
fine. There was a bit more to it, but that
covers the essential part of this work.
In the category of small stuff, the
nose heater duct hoses needed to be
replaced. They’d been patched often
with RTV and the real problem was
they weren’t stretched before they were
installed so they sagged inappropriately
and hence wear as they chaffed against
the nose cowl and various other parts.
The left return flap spring tab needed
some work at the attachment point.
Both oil filler necks were tightened.
Both alternate air doors had to be adjusted. One alternator attach bolt was
replaced. Timing had to be adjusted a
tad on one engine. One of the eight lord
mounts had to be tightened.
The darn right master brake cylinder was leaking again and was fixed.
I suppose if we didn’t use the brakes,
we wouldn’t have these problems but
the home airport south runway slopes
downhill so brakes are needed. I have
landed north and not had to use brakes,
but prevailing winds are from the south
so I can count on future brake repairs.
Airplanes are mechanical beasties and
like we say in the computer business,
hardware wears – it is not a matter of
if it will break; it is a matter of when.
The Blackstone oil analysis verbiage
was especially complimentary of this
set of samples. It made my day when
they used words like, “Wear trends
don’t get much steadier … that’s an
excellent indication that your IO320 is
wearing well and is free of problems…
the two engines should look alike and
these do. You ran this oil longer than
the last sample – so on a per-hour basis,
wear has actually gotten better. You’re
A second squawk was predicted at
last year’s annual; both air filter boxes
needed help. At first we thought we just
needed new lids, but the lower portion
was quite worn and needed help too.
I had hunted around a bit during the
year and couldn’t find any. It turns
out that the partners in a twin at an
airport less than 20 miles away are
doing major, major upgrades to their
twin and had repaired their air filter
boxes and offered to do ours. Mason
Sinclair did the work and his day job
is structural repair for Delta. If you
like what you see, Mason is easiest to
reach through his partner ICS member
Mickey Stateler. What I like about the
work is the boxes seem much sturdier
to me but weigh a touch less, and Teflon
tape was added to reduce the known
wear locations. We (read Mason) also
improved the boxes by changing the
wonky cam-locs which sometimes were
loose with long bolts that screw into
self-locking nut plates.
Last year we’d done a lot of work
around the power quadrant and while
the gear horn was working, we like it to
go off early enough to give us a chance
to recover, so we had it adjusted at 1415 inches. This took several iterations
of painstaking work. David may never
speak to me again!
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While the Twin was down for the
annual, we had the Century autopilot
computer removed. We drove it to the
Century Flight Systems plant at the Mineral Wells, Texas airport and had the
annuciator lights fixed. They did a general check and all was pronounced in
good condition. A few hundred dollars
and a few hours later, we were done. I
should mention we had the pleasure of
eating lunch at a succulent, tasty, usefulload-destroying BBQ grill which is close
to the airport. The delightfully sinful experience will be repeated in the future.
ADs
It was a small list. There was nothing significant due at this annual other
than the normal 50 and 100 ADs and
the heater decay test – not that we used
the heater much last year – we had 0.1
hours on it. Bungees are cheap and we
replace them every year. This year I got
a picture of one-year-old bungees and
how they were stretched compared to
a new bungee.
Improvements
We had a red reference line added
to the emergency gear extension area
so we know when the gear is down in
the event that there is a full electrical failure and there is no green gear
light available.
Opportunity Repairs/Improvements
Last year I mentioned the right engine quick drain was slowly weeping oil
(about two-to-three drops on the hangar
floor between flights), so I worked with
the quick drain company and had a new
one installed. Well, gosh darn it, it was
leaking again this year. I was tired of
dealing with the third incidence of this
so I asked Clifton to replace it with a
regular threaded plug. If that leaks, we’ll
know it is a different problem.
Another improvement we made
earlier in the year was putting in a
nicely fitting rotating beacon replacement Whelen LED tail light. We had
initially installed a Whelen light that
left an area for water to collect, so we
fixed that problem (see February 2013
Flyer) on this subject to avoid the bad
fit problem. We also put in the LED
Whelen Prometheus landing lights.
Both were great fits and would be easy
to do on most twins. We had the added
complexity of dropping the tip tanks
to get the landing lights in. Since the
life of the bulbs are estimated at 2,000
This year the big deal was to winnow down the four fuel transducers to
two. How the twin got a total of four,
we just don’t know. Two were installed
on fabricated cross bars under the fuselage floor under the front seats and
two others were in the nacelles behind the engines.
The ones in the nacelles
were actually running
the fuel flow gauge and
the ones under the floor
were connected to nothing. We knew the transducers were getting old
because of the variance
in fuel flow readings when
they should be steady and
the delta in fuel flows between the engines. Mark
Ayers did the transducer
work and David Everett
fabricated the new fuel
lines. They did excellent
work, not a single leak.
Fuel flows on takeoff are
now the same or within a
tenth of a gallon.
One-year old bungee outside, new bungee inside.
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hours, we now use them all the time
under the busy class B DFW airspace
and at cruise.
Another completed project done in
May at an oil change was that Tim customized the power quadrant blank we
bought from Webco, and it looks great.
The quadrant cover is much beefier
than the original. Tim’s slot cuts for the
throttle, prop and mixture levers were
better, and he did a great job of saving
and re-using the labeling.
Making It Easy for the Shop
Last year I wrote about several
things I do to try to make it easy on
the shop. This year I created a word
document that mirrors their squawk
sheet so instead of re-writing everything
I’d already typed up, it was already
pre-printed on their form.
My Role at Annual
I was on site for about two-thirds
of the time the twin was at the shop.
I keep myself busy on items that are
within my skill set to handle such as
taking out seats, removing inspection
panels, blue taping parts to protect
paint, or washing parts off for inspection before they go back on. These
are all really easy, but labor intensive.
Whenever an extra set of hands are
needed, the mechanics ask for my help.
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While I was there for the pre-annual,
another Twin owner came in for a quick
oil change – well, another problem was
found so departure was late. Closing
time had come and gone and the twin
was being owner re-fueled. After a long
day, the mechanics were as anxious as
anyone to go home, but they waited.
This is a part of Clifton customer service I didn’t know about. The mechanics waited until the twin had departed
and was out of sight – just in case they
had to turn back – someone would be
there to help them.
A ferry pilot brought in a twin for a
pre-buy inspection. He had done one
landing in the twin which went well and
then flew it to Clifton. He wasn’t
at all happy with the second fast,
The tiniest
full-flap gusty crosswind, high
of fuel stains
bouncing landing and asked if
on servo and
he could pick my brain a bit on
servo insides
how to successfully land a Twin
that don’t see
the light of day
Comanche and how to do an
very often.
emergency gear extension. Well,
I’m no instructor, but I did share
the power settings and speeds we use
and gave him the normal your-mileagemay-vary caution. He emailed after he
made the ferry flight home and said the
landing was much better. What I found
fascinating about the emergency gear
extension was we sat in the cockpit
and he read the back of the cover one
step at a time and we identified where
Comanche Company
Usually I see the planes, but not
the owners. It was fun to meet another
Comanche owner who had flown in
from Phoenix to have his annual done
at Clifton. His annual was just finished
and he marveled at how clean his plane
was. He said he brought it there because
he wanted a thorough annual and there
was something that had to be done
differently for his gear because of the
LoPresti cowl. While this particular
aspect was new to Clifton, they got the
instructions and performed the work
without difficulty.
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the described items were. He’d asked
how many pumps it took to get the
gear down; we walked through the procedure and he asked again how many
pumps to use. I pointed out there was
no pumping on the instructions, so I
told him the answer was zero pumps.
Post-Annual Test Flight
As I’ve said before, Ken and I are
mostly computer business people as
opposed to professional pilots so we
apply those principals to flying. After
something has changed, you test it to
make sure it still works. Nearly all of the
past post-annual test flights have found
problems – some were more major than
others. After the fuel servo problem was
solved and the gear horn adjusted, the
actual test flight went well.
At first glance the air
box looks big, but
the proof is just clay
away – it fits great.
So that’s how most of this year’s
annual inspection, repairs and improvements went. We’d be interested in other
owner’s experiences. There’s always
something to learn.
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The old transducers.
Notice the fuel stains
from very, very tiny
fuel seepage.
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The old heater ducts rubbed against
the nose cowl. Notice the new clearance David made a point of stretching
them out before installation.
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in Edinburgh.
Due to various arrival times and to
allow for late arrivals, the schedule is
left open for to explore the city as you
wish. Options include a visit to the Galway museum, historical walking tours
DATE
of the city, taking in a show or simply
taking up the atmosphere. This is the
perfect opportunity to sample the Guinness in one of the many traditional pubs
around the city and close to our hotel.
TRIBE EVENT/LOCATION
April 5-7
SE
There will be a tour of Edinburgh
Castle and a Gala dinner on the Royal
Yacht Britannia on 24th May. Other
events will include a tour of the Scottish Parliament, and a dinner at Prestonfield House Hotel, a 16th-century
manor house and Edinburgh’s most
prestigious venue.
April 9-14
April 12-14
SW
April 20 *
NE
Lunch/Latrobe, Pa. (LBE)
April 27
MS
May 3-5
SE
There is a maximum number of 40
places on this fly-in which has already
been booked, and there is now a waiting list. Contact Barrie Taylor at abwt@
btinternet.com for more information.
May 4
MS
Horn AD Seminar/
Newton, Kansas (KEWK)
Fly-in/Destin-Ft. Walton
Beach, Fla. (KDTS)
Museum Tour & Lunch/
Colorado Springs, Colo. (COS)
May 10-12
May 18-19
ICS
NC
May 23-26
June 7-9
EU
SE
June 15 *
June 27-30
NE
ICS
Galway and West of
Ireland Tour (EICM)
August 1-6
The airport has a hard runway with
ILS. The itinerary includes an evening
at Galway Races and the opportunity to
explore Ireland’s Western coastline taking in Kilary fjord, Inishbofin island and
the spectacular Sky road at Clifden. You
can enjoy a landscape seeped in history
and Celtic antiquity. Our tour begins and
ends in Galway, a bustling and historical
city, and the gateway to Connemara,
where you can shop for souvenirs, learn
about the past or just soak up the atmosphere of this vibrant city.
ITINERARY
June 30-July 7 ICS
July 13 *
NE
July 29-Aug 4
Fly-in/ Callaway Gardens/
Pine Mountain, Ga. (KPIM)
Sun ‘n Fun 2013/Lakeland, Fla.
Fly-in & Horn AD Seminar/
Laughlin, Nev. (IPF)
CPTP/Danielson, Conn. (LZD)
Pancake Breakfast & Technical
Seminars/Lapeer, Mich. (D95)
Fly-In/Edinburgh Scotland (EGPT)
Fly-In & Tribe Business Mtg./
Sanford, Fla. (KSFB)
Lunch/Newport, N.H.
2013 ICS Convention/
Renton, Wash.
Alaska Cruise (optional)
Lunch/Ellenville, N.Y. (N89)
AirVenture 2013/
Oshkosh, Wis. (OSH)
Galway and West of
Ireland Tour (EICM)
Fly-in/Outer Banks, N.C. (KMQI)
Aug 1-6
EU
Aug 9-11
SE
Aug 17 *
NE
Sept 14 *
NE
Oct 19 *
NE
Lunch/Luray, Va. (LUA)
Nov 16 *
NE
Lunch/Cambridge, Md.
Dec. 14 *
NE
Lunch/Georgetown, Del.
Lunch & Elections/
Pittstown, N.J.(N40)
Lunch & Comanche issues/
Leroy, N.Y. (5G0)
Day 1: Thursday, August 01
Arrive in Galway between 13.00
and 15.30 local time, and enjoy light
refreshments while awaiting transfer to
our accommodations. We will stay at
the luxurious Merrick/Victoria Hotel/
spa in the center of Galway (http://
www.hotelmeyrick.ie/index.html).
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INFO SOURCE/HOST
Phillip Hobbs at
[email protected]
Lorne or Peg Harmon at (928) 717-2630
(home), (928) 925-1225 (cell), or email
[email protected]
Ron and Lynn Ward at
[email protected] register at:
Pat Donovan at
[email protected]
Phillip Hobbs at
[email protected]
Randy Biles at e-mail rwbiles@
pikespeakrv.com or call (719) 338-2926
(day) or (719) 260-7280 (evening)
Ron Keil at (810) 834-0168 or
(810) 664-6966.
Barrie Taylor at [email protected]
Doris Click at [email protected]
Pete Morse at [email protected]
Shirley Nelson (360) 671-7388 or
[email protected]
Dwight Coombe at dwightcoombe@
sprague-killeen.com
TBD
David Sheppard at david@
sheppardracing.freeserve.co.uk
Charles Littwin email at chas4949@
roadrunner.com or call (704) 360-4754
Bernie Stumpf at
[email protected]
http://www.quietcornerbands.org/
Forms/ICS-NE_FlyIn_RegForm.htm
* The following Sunday is the raindate.
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Day 2: Friday, August 02
We have the first part of the day
to continue exploring the “City of the
Tribes.” Galway is renowned as the cultural capital of Ireland. This medieval
city is now one of the fastest growing
urban areas in Europe. At this time of
year, the city is alive with street theatre, music, and packed with visitors
who attended the international arts
festival and are looking forward to the
Galway Races.
Day 3: Saturday, August 03
In the morning, we will be picked
up from our hotel in Galway and driven west to Connemara. We will pass
through the beautiful Inagh Valley to
visit the famous 18th century Kylemore
Abbey and its award-winning Victorian
Gardens. We will be able to have lunch
at the Abbey.
Activities included in our package for the afternoon include a scenic
cruise along Killary Harbour, Ireland’s
only fjord, featuring a live commentary
about the history of the area as well
as the workings of the harbour today.
We will also visit the Alcock & Brown
landing site of the first Trans-Atlantic
flight at Clifden which occurred on June
15, 1919. Afterward, we will be taken
to the beautiful Renvyle Peninsula to
our accommodations at the Leenane
Hotel (www.leenanehotel.com), where
we will have dinner.
Day 4: Sunday, August 04
In the morning following a sumptuous traditional Irish breakfast, we
will be taken to Connemara National
Park where our guide will provide a
comprehensive overview of the park
and the area while leading us on the
various tracks through the park. The
more adventurous in the group can attempt the two-hour climb of Diamond
Hill. Lunch is available at the park.
In the afternoon, bikes will be provided for a gentle cycle through Letterfrack village back to our accommodation
at Leenane. Alternatively, we will have
option to travel to Clifden by coach if
you would like to spend the afternoon
browsing through the shops in Clifden
before being brought back for dinner,
which will again be provided at the
award-winning restaurant at our hotel.
Day 5: Monday, August 05
We will return to our accommodation at Inishbofin (www.inishbofin.
com) – one of three offshore islands of
Connemara! We will be picked up at our
accommodation on the Renvyle Peninsula and taken to Cleggan where we will
take the ferry to Inishbofin to sample
the unique “island life” and take in one
of Ireland’s unique attractions. This
island is an ideal spot for swimming,
hill walking, cycling and angling. Inishbofin has a highly respected reputation
for traditional music and world-class
musicians who visit it regularly. We
will stay at the luxury Inishbofin House
hotel and spa (www.inishbofinhouse.
com). On arrival, our first glimpse of
Bofin will be the impressive “Cromwell's Barracks” – the well-preserved
ruins dating back to the 17th century.
There are also many kinds of birds, as
well as colonies of seals on the island.
For lucky visitors, there is also the possibility of sighting dolphins, whales and
sharks! Individuals are free to explore
the island at their own pace. Dinner
will be provided at our hotel and entertainment will be easily found with high
quality Irish music sessions in each of
the island’s pubs!
Day 6: August 06
We will return to Cleggan on the
morning boat, where we will be picked up by coach and brought to Galway
Airport for departure. Our intended
schedule will see us ready to leave
around midday or early afternoon.
The itinerary has been organised
to allow enough time to pursue other
interests outside of these arrangements.
There is much to do such as horse
riding on the beaches or in the National
Park, shark fishing, other boating activities, and a cooking course for local
dishes may well be an offer. We will
gladly make arrangements as requested.
The cost of this fly-in has been calculated to include the itinerary, dinner
on four of the five nights, and accom-
modation. At this time the cost is estimated to be approximately 1150 Euros
per person for a double room, and as
usual there will be a small supplement
for single occupancy. The number of
people attending and the exchange rate
will affect the final cost.
If you are interested in coming,
please contact David Sheppard (david@
sheppardracing.freeserve.co.uk) who
looks forward to hearing from you.
MID-STATES TRIBE
Fly-In
Colorado Springs, Colo. (COS)
May 4
We have a fun fly-in planned for
Saturday, May 4 in Colorado Springs.
We will fly in to the Colorado Springs
Airport (COS) and taxi to Jet Center on
the west side of COS; they are expecting our group. Arrival time should be
between 10:00 – 10:30 a.m.
We will then be transported to the
World War II Aviation Museum and
Westpac World War II aircraft restoration facility, which is also located on
the COS field, for a tour. We will be
seeing a number of World War II aircraft that are currently being restored,
as well as some completed restoration
projects. The restored airplanes are in
flying condition and are flown either by
their private owners or the museum.
The museum also houses some very
interesting World War II displays, as
well as a few of the restored airplanes.
It is also an educational facility where
young students are instructed in the
skills used to repair and restore these
valuable airplanes.
After our tour, we will head over
to the Airplane Restaurant for lunch.
It is a KC-97 airplane which has been
converted into a restaurant and serves
delicious meals. Eat a big breakfast as
we will probably have lunch a little later
than the normal noon period.
Please RSVP to Randy Biles as soon
as you know you will be attending as he
needs to notify the Jet Center, museum
and restaurant on the number of people
who will be attending.
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If you have any questions, or to RSVP
for this fly-in, e-mail randy at rwbiles@
pikespeakrv.com or call (719) 338-2926
(day) or (719) 260-7280 (evening).
All ICS members are invited to attend.
Horn AD Maintenance
Seminars
The Mid States Tribe of ICS is hosting a series of one day, “hands-on”
seminars showing how you and/or your
mechanic can satisfy AD 2012-17-06.
With you watching and participating, a
Comanche tail will be taken apart, the
inspection performed, and the tail reassembled. A local “Comanche expert”
will be used if possible; otherwise, one
will be brought in. Both ICS and nonICS members are invited.
The cost is $25 per person. An additional $5 per person will cover lunch.
Arrangements will be made with a local
hotel for Friday and Saturday nights in
case you wish to arrive early or leave
late. The person who volunteers their
Comanche will be charged $50 to cover
the inspection and attendance.
FIRST HORN AD SEMINAR
Seminars are proposed for Newton,
Kansas (see right); Denver, Colo.; Rapid
City, S.D.; Minneapolis, Minn.; Iowa
City, Iowa; and St. Louis, Mo. These
locations are general areas and should
not be construed as absolute. The first
location is planned for a southern location and progressing north as the
weather warms up. A local volunteer
coordinator is needed for each site.
Date: Saturday, 27 April 2013
We will also try to have something
for the non-pilot that could accompany
their time for the day. This will naturally be location dependent, and will
be determined later.
The program administrator for the
seminars is Pat Donovan. If you are interested in being a local coordinator or want
your Comanche tail inspected as part of
this program, contact him at ad.seminar@
yahoo.com or (636) 462-8370.
Cluster Gauges
S.W., AC, Rochester
Overhauled
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Location: Webco Aircraft, Newton,
Kansas (KEWK)
Hotel: Comfort Inn, 1205 East 1st St,
Newton. A block of 10 rooms has been
set aside for us under Webco (not ICS)
at a cost of $88.99. Call (316) 804-4866
to make reservations and ask for Neal.
Hotel amenities include a full breakfast,
microwave, mini-refrigerator, and indoor pool/sauna. The hotel is blocked
for both Friday and Saturday night for
those who need it. Cancellation policy
requires notification by 4:00 p.m. the
day of your reservation (pretty liberal)
so weather shouldn't be a concern.
The seminar starts Saturday at 8:00
a.m. and will continue until late afternoon. Expect a full day of tail-related
show-and-tell as we pull apart a Comanche and perform the AD mandated
inspection on the horn.
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Use the New Rochester Probe with your
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WE OVERHAUL P/N 21286-000
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Phone 1-800-443-3117 or 1-570-748-0823 Fax 1-570-748-1786
Web Site: www.airpartsoflockhaven.com E-MAIL: [email protected]
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As mentioned, the cost is $25 per
person for attendees, plus $5 for lunch.
Please encourage your mechanic to join
you and learn the process for both the
AD and other Comanche tail-related
issues. Time permitting, other maintenance topics can be addressed as well.
Non-pilot activities are still being
developed.
Please contact Pat Donovan at
[email protected] to let him
know you are coming. Early arrivals
can meet for dinner on Friday night to
discuss sundry topics. Registration fee
(not including the $5 for lunch) should
be made out to “Mid-States Comanche
Tribe” and sent to Pat Donovan, 421
Piper Ct, Troy, MO 63379.
Saturday Lunch Fly-Ins
Saturday Lunch Fly-Ins will be
posted in our new Comanche Winds
newsletter which will come out every
other month, and are now posted in the
calendar summary in the Flyer.
Also, we will be sending out e-mail
notices a month before and the week
of the fly-in. There are several fly-ins
already in the process, so watch your
e-mails. These fly-ins will focus on having fun, kicking tires, telling stories and
promoting more new and old friendships among our tribe members.
Be sure to contact the fly-in host for
last minute changes or cancellations,
especially if you are not on the Mid
States Tribe fly-in or newsletter list.
If you would like to host a lunch
fly-in, please call Sarah McKinley
at (816) 868-1015 (cell) or e-mail at
[email protected].
Tribe E-mail Updates
If you are not receiving the Mid
States Comanche Winds newsletter
and would like to, please call Sarah
McKinley at (816) 868-1015 or by email at [email protected] and she
will make sure to amend the list to
include your e-mail address.
Update Your Old Comanche Panel
Make Room for a MFD
NORTH CENTRAL TRIBE
Pancake Breakfast/
Technical Seminars
Lapeer, Mich. (D95)
May 18-19
Come join the North Central Tribe
for a pancake breakfast and Second Annual Technical Seminar at the Dupont
Lapeer Airport in Lapeer, Mich. For the
non-pilots, a trip to Past Tense, a quaint
market, cider shop, and restaurant will
be available.
Agenda:
Saturday, May 18
• PancakeBreakfast,7:00a.m.–11:00
a.m.
• Wecanorderlunchdeliveredat12:00
p.m.
• AvionicsSeminar,12:00p.m.–3:30
p.m.
During the seminar, we will cover
the following topics: Garmin touch
screen, Avidyne touch screen, Aspen
PFD and MFD, panel upgrades for
our Comanches, ADS B, and some
tips on troubleshooting before taking
your plane to a radio shop for repair.
• Shuttle to Holiday Inn Express to
freshen up for dinner, 4:00 p.m.
Sunday, May 19
• Maintenance Seminar, 8:00 a.m.–
12:00 p.m.
Update your panel to a standard “T” configuration. Add space for
new electronics. All panels computer drawn and laser cut.
‘58-60 Centerstack Conversion
‘61-68 Single or Twin
$950.00 (Fully STC’d)
$825.00 (Fully STC’d)
Recuts left side – $250 • Recuts right side – $100. (Prior Panels)
Contact: John Van Bladeren at:
Ron & John’s Comanche Service
For those interested, a free VFR transponder test will be performed on
your airplane and a logbook sticker
good for two years will be provided.
We will have an old-time Comanche
expert come and talk about some of
his experiences in the “good old days.”
We hope to see many of you at this
event, which will have something for
everyone.
This fly-in is hosted by Ron Keil. For
more information, you can contact him
at (810) 834-0168 or (810) 664-6966.
2007 SE Ash Street • Portland, OR 97214
(503) 329-8512 (Day or Night) • Fax: (503) 234-0677
e-mail: [email protected]
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SOUTH CENTRAL TRIBE
Saturday Lunch Fly-Ins
If it is difficult for you to make a
full weekend fly-in, you may find the
Saturday lunch gatherings with Comanche camaraderie, sharing of flying
stories, maintenance talk and lunch, to
your liking. You should be able to find
a schedule of the lunch fly-ins on the
South Central Tribe website at http://
groups.msn.com/SouthCentralTribe
ICS/welcome.msnw and in the South
Central Tribe newsletter Smoke Trails.
(If you wish to organize a lunch flyin, please contact Bruce Thumann at
[email protected] or
(713) 875-3056.)
Tribe E-mail Updates
If you are not receiving the South
Central Tribe’s Smoke Trails Newsletter
and would like to, please e-mail Bruce
Thumann at bruce@contractbuilders
supply.com, and he will make sure
to amend the list to include your email address.
SOUTHEAST TRIBE
Saturday Lunch Fly-ins
We will be scheduling lunch fly-ins
throughout the spring. These will be
scheduled by email. Let me know if
there are good destinations in your
area. We will get the word out!
Callaway Gardens Fly-in
Pine Mountain, Ga. (KPIM)
April 5-7
This is the perfect time to see this
magnificent wonder of central Georgia. We will fly in to Pine Mountain
(KPIM) just as the azaleas are peaking
in this 13,000-acre resort. Three days
of boundless activities are available
including tours of the spectacular gardens, biking, canoeing, ropes courses
in the trees, and of course, the two
Callaway golf courses.
Plan to arrive Friday, April 5, where
our host FBO will be Harris County.
The airport manager is Bill Champion,
who can be reached at (706) 590-1414.
APRIL 2013
Transportation to the Mountain Creek
Inn resort will be provided by the resort. Room rates are $112 per night,
plus taxes. For more information, you
can go to their website at http://www.
callawaygardens.com/where-to-stay/
mountain-creek-inn. All rooms have
free Wi-Fi access. Given the popularity of the resort and the peak season,
we are unable to block these rooms.
PLEASE notify me early of your commitment and make your reservations
as soon as possible. There are two
restaurants at the Inn serving terrific
breakfast, lunch and dinner buffets.
Friday night hosts a seafood buffet for
$26.95 per person. Saturday night is a
classic Southern buffet for $21.95 per
person. Several other restaurants are
also available on site or within minutes
of the hotel in case we do not collectively want the buffet.
Friday night we’ll have dinner and
unwind with our Comanche friends.
Saturday morning we will start with a
little orientation, and then it is off in
all directions. With so many activities,
we planned a fairly loose agenda. We
can team up for tours or explore on
our own, and for the golfers, there are
the two great courses at Callaway. We
will probably need to reserve space
ahead of time, so please respond early.
Given the size of the resort, walking
it all is not feasible, so bicycles and
golf carts are available right at the Inn
for rent. Bikes are $20/half day, fourperson golf carts are $75/day. We will
also have the van for transportation
as a group. After a day of exploration,
Saturday night we’ll be back to gather
around the buffet or one of the other
restaurants at the resort, share stories
of our explorations and make plans
for the future. I also plan to hold a
brief Tribe meeting Saturday to discuss how we make these fly-ins more
attractive and affordable. Your input
is valuable. We hope you can attend.
Sunday morning will be breakfast, relax and homebound.
Cost for the fly-in is $30 per person to mainly cover transportation.
All meals, rooms, bike or cart rental,
activities, etc. are at cost. A hospitality
room is available and I would like to include that in the weekend, but the cost
of the room will add $20 per person.
Before reserving that room, I need to
gage the attendance. Please book your
rooms directly with Callaway and RSVP
with Phillip Hobbs at email phobbs1@
carolina.rr.com early so we can get
our reservations confirmed. Please also
let me know what activities you are
interested in so that we can plan better.
Go to http://www.callaway
gardens.com for information on activities. This is one of Callaway Garden’s
most busy times. Please commit as
soon as possible by email and send
your payment of $30 per person to
Phillip Hobbs, 2916 Savannah Hills
Drive, Matthews, NC 28105.
Fly-in
Destin-Ft Walton Beach,
Fla. (KDTS)
May 3-5
The Southeast Tribe extends an
open invitation to all members to join
us for a fly-in to Destin-Ft Walton Beach
(KDTS). This is an outstanding opportunity as you fly through the Destin/Elgin
corridor, perhaps one of the nation’s
most intense military airspaces. Prior to
arrival Friday, we are suggesting some
online training for flying the corridor,
go to the FAA web site faasafety.gov.
You will need a Wings account; once
you’ve logged on, look for Course Name
“ALC-47: Destin/Eglin AFB FL Part 93
Operations.” This will better prepare
you for flying through the airspace.
Our Host FBO is Miracle Strip Aviation at telephone number (850) 8376135; the manager is Brian Cherry.
We will have ample ramp space, fuel
discounts and great hospitality. Upon
arrival, the Wingate by Wyndham is a
short transport before you’re relaxing in
the hospitality room. We have a special
rate of $99 plus tax, per night. Please
contact Wingate directly for reservations at (850) 654-4678, and mention
ICS for the rate. Friday night dinner will
be at a great local restaurant, the Back
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Porch (http://www.theback-porch.
com/destin/index.php). This is a very
popular restaurant, so we will try to get
there by 6:00 p.m.
Saturday the adventurous will fly
a short hop along the beach to Ferguson (82J) and on to the National Naval
Aviation Museum (NNAM) at Pensacola
(http://www.navalaviationmuseum.
org).Please note that 82J is within the
Pensacola NAS Class C, three miles
from the NAS, so preparation is advised.
We have a full and exciting agenda developing for our trip to the NNAM.
The tentative schedule includes…
• DepartDTS0900,arrive82J0930,
transport to NNAM
• Personalguidedtourofthemuseum
starting about 1000 (takes about
one-and-a-half hours)
• Lunchforourgroupwillbeprovided
in the Cubi Bar Café about 1200
• IMAXtheaterpresentationof“The
Magic of Flight,” beginning at 1300
(lasts 45 minutes)
Saturday night, dinner will be at a
local restaurant (to be selected) and
we’ll return to the hospitality room for
more Comanche talk, stories of the day,
and general camaraderie. Sunday will
be brunch and then returning home.
Cost for the fly-in is $45 per person to cover transportation, hospitality
room, etc. All meals, rooms, etc. are
at cost. The day at the National Naval
Aviation Museum is $19.25 per person
which covers the tour, lunch and the
IMAX. Please book your rooms directly
with Wyndham and RSVP with Phillip Hobbs at email phobbs1@carolina.
rr.com early so we can confirm the
itinerary, logistics, etc. Let me know
if you are interested in the National
Naval Aviation Museum tour or prefer
other activities. Please commit as soon
as possible by email and send your
payment of $45 per person to Phillip
Hobbs, 2916 Savannah Hills Drive, Matthews, NC 28105.
• Backtothehotel,and…
Fly-In & Tribe Business
Meeting
Sanford, Fla. (KSFB)
June 7-9
Off to join the others who will be
enjoying a day at the beach. Alternately there is a lot to do in the area such as
shopping at one of Florida’s largest outlet malls (http://www.premiumoutlets.
com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=102) and
lots of water activities if there is enough
interest. Other activities can be planned
based on response.
The Southeast Tribe will hold their
Annual Election of Officers June 8 in
conjunction with a fun weekend fly-in.
The Comfort Inn has given us a special
group rate for their deluxe rooms of
$79, plus 11% tax per night, for a king or
two queen beds, and a full continental
breakfast with two hot entrees each
morning, included in the room rate.
• Opentofurtherexploration,return
to DTS
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SouThEAST TrIBE SAnForD, FlA. Fly-In
Registration Fee: $ 25.00 per person
no.
ToTAl
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$___________________
Barbara Lee Cruise: $57.95 per person NON-MEMBER
#____________________
Current Paid SE ICS Member, ICS Number
#____________________
Current Paid SE ICS Spouse Member, ICS Number
#____________________
Check Total for Registration
$_____________________
Flying in, plane number _________________________________________________________________
Arrival Date____________________________________________________________________________
Mail checks payable to ICS, Southeast Tribe, to Doris Click, 228 Doolittle Street, Orlando, FL
32839. Please remit your registration form by May 15. Pleaseregisterwiththehoteldirectly.
ICS has a block of 15 rooms until
May 24, 2013. Contact the Comfort Inn
directly for reservations at (407) 5851580, (407) 585-1595 (fax) or email
to [email protected].
You must state you are with ICS for this
rate. A credit card is needed to ensure
your reservation, which must be made
by May 24. After this date, our rooms
will go back to the general public at a
higher rate. ICS room rate is valid for
three days prior and three days after
our function. There is a 24-hour cancellation policy. If you cancel after 24
hours, you will be liable for one night.
Friday, June 7
Fly in to the Sanford Star Port FBO
located on the north side of the airport (KSFB). Contact information for
the FBO is (407) 321-3882 or toll-free
1-866-231-8880; information can also
be found on their web site at info@
starportusa.com. The FBO is open from
6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. After 10:00
p.m., the building is locked and you can
not get out to your airplane. Tie down
fees are $15.00 for single and $20.00
for twin, per night, BUT with a fuel
purchase of 10 gallons S or 20 gallons
T, one night’s fee will be waived. The
current fuel price is $6.13.
After landing, call the Comfort Inn
at (407) 585-1580 and their van will
pick you up and transfer you to the
hotel. After checking in, relax in the
hospitality room down the hall from the
check-in desk. At 6:30 p.m., the hotel’s
van will transport us for a great evening
at the famous Hollerbach Willow Tree
Restaurant, in downtown Sanford. They
have excellent food with a music show
starting at 7:00 p.m. that continues
during the night. At 10:00 p.m., the
hotel’s van will return to take us back
to the hotel.
Saturday, June 8
From 9:00 a.m. – noon, Tribe Chief
Hobbs will hold a seminar (subject to
be determined) in the conference room
next to the hospitality room, followed
by lunch at 12:00 p.m. in the hospitality
room. At 1:00 p.m., we’ll head back to
the conference room to hold the Annual Tribe Election Meeting from 1:00
to 3:00 p.m.
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At 6:30 p.m., we will leave the hotel, by van, to board the BarbaraLee
for a four-hour paddle boat cruise on
the St. Johns River – the only river
in Florida that flows north – viewing
Florida’s wildlife. This will be a dinner cruise, with six entrees offered
to you once seated, from prime rib,
salmon, chicken, and pasta primavera.
All meals are prepared fresh on board
by the chef. There is live entertainment and dancing while cruising. The
Southeast Tribe will pay for Southeast
current paid member’s dinner on this
cruise. Non-members will pay the cost
of their dinner. May 15 is the cut-off
date, in stone, for current Southeast
Tribe paid members to make their
registration for their dinner to be paid
by the tribe, as we have to pay for all
our dinners in advance. If you attend
and did not make a reservation to the
Southeast Tribe for the cruise, you
will have to pay directly for your dinner/cruise to the St. Johns Rivership
Company at a price of $57.95, which
includes tax and gratuity. There is the
possibility if you have a late dinner
reservation that you may not be able
to sit with the ICS group. So members
if you plan to attend, please reserve
your registration early. All dinner registrations MUST be made by May 15,
members and non-members.
Sunday, June 9
Depart at your leisure after enjoying
breakfast.
The Southeast Tribe sends an open
invitation to all ICS Members to come
join our tribe at a great fun weekend.
Fly-In
Outer Banks, N.C. (KMQI)
August 9-11
All ICS members are invited by
Patti and Charles Littwin to enjoy one of
the jewels of North Carolina, the Outer
Banks. This is a kid-friendly fly-in!
a one-minute walk from the airport
(www.ncaquariums.com/roanoke-island). The tour will start at 2:00 p.m.
and typically takes two hours. The fee is
$8.00 for adults. After the tour, we will
make the 45-minute drive out to Avon,
Outer Banks to check in to our rooms.
Dinner is on your own. At 7:00 p.m., we
will meet at the Salvo Day use area for
cocktails while watching the sunset over
the Pamlico Sound, then return to our
beach house 4Play (www.4playOBX.
com) which will serve as the hospitality
suite for this event.
Saturday morning at 10:00 a.m. a
two-hour kayak trip is planned on the
Pamlico Sound, then lunch will be on
your own. After lunch, the group will
congregate at 4Play at 1:30 p.m. and head
to the ocean side for some sunbathing
and ocean fun which could include fishing, boogie boarding, swimming, walking
on the pier, taking a stroll or chilling on
the beach, or Charles’ favorite activity…
kite flying. The flat roads of the outer
banks create the perfect environment
for bicycle riding, so another perk is use
of our two single bikes and the tandem
bike for your biking pleasure.
Saturday evening, the group will congregate at 7:00 p.m. to dine at Ketch
55 seafood grill (www.ketch55.com),
and then return to 4Play for evening
cocktails and conversation.
Sunday morning breakfast will be at
Oceana’s Bistro, and then we will head
out to Manteo Airport for departure.
More fly-in details:
This is an “ala cart” event except
for beer/wine/soda/water supplied for
the sunset viewing, evening cocktails,
and at the beach. The registration fee
is $20.00 per person. Here is what your
responsibilities are:
Arrive at the Dare County regional
airport (KMQI) on Friday August 9,
2013.
• Bookyourowncar.Reserveyourcar
through the Dare county airport at
(252) 475-5570. They have limited
availability, so Enterprise (252) 4801838 is the backup vendor. Having
your own car offers you the option to
explore numerous other recreational
opportunities if you choose to do so.
The first activity is a tour of the North
Carolina Aquarium which is literally
• Reserveyourhotel.Therearethree
options:
The agenda is:
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option 1: The hosts of the event
Charlie and Patti have three bedrooms available at their beach house
(www.4playOBX.com), first come,
first serve, which is available for
$110.00 per night, tax included.
Please contact Charlie directly at
[email protected] if this
is your accommodation choice.
option 2: Avon Cottages (www.
avoncottages.com), telephone number (252) 995-4123. They have eight
one-bedroom efficiency rooms at
a rate if $95.00 per night. If this is
your choice, BOOK EARLY, the outer
banks is very popular and the rooms
get reserved very early.
option 3: Avon motel is the third
option (www.avonmotel.com), telephone number (252) 995-5774 with
a rate of $110.00 per night.
For option 2 or 3, ask for the no
tax discount (a 12% savings) for the
Comanche group. These prices are
very reasonable for this time of year.
• Ifyouplantofish,boogeyboard,
etc., bring your gear – beach chairs,
cooler, etc. – otherwise Ocean Atlantic Rentals is well equipped with gear
(www.oceanatlanticrentals.com).
If you plan to attend, please RSVP
to Charlie via email at [email protected] and put “August OBX Fly
In – Your Last Name” in the subject line
and include your N number if flying in.
For more information or questions, you
can also call (704) 360-4754.
The beautiful Outer Banks are awaiting you and your family!
SOUTHWEST TRIBE
Fly-In and Horn
AD Seminar
Laughlin, Nev. (IPF)
April 12-14
Our tribe’s annual Laughlin fly-in
will be in April this year, and we’re
returning to Harrah’s Laughlin Casino
& Hotel Resort on the Colorado River.
They always offer us the best hotel
rate, as well as free transportation to
and from the airport.
Seminar
A maintenance seminar is scheduled
that will deal with the Horn AD, conducted by maintenance personnel from
Arizona Aircraftsman, Inc. They are a
first-class shop located in Prescott, Ariz.
In fact, one of the participating mechanics happens to own a 1966 260B with an
Aspen and a GTN750 panel (which I’m
sure he would be more than happy to
show everyone). It is anticipated that we
will take apart the tail section of a Comanche and demonstrate the dye penetrant test that must be done, as well as
replacing the bearings, etc. At this time,
we expect to replace the used horn with
a new tube and horn, which means we
can also have a discussion about the
alignment process required for that job.
The seminar should run all day on Saturday, April 13, with a break for a catered
lunch. For those attending only the seminar, please let us know by calling or emailing, so that we can plan accordingly.
This seminar is open to all Comanche
owners, whether ICS members or not.
The Comanche Flyer Foundation (CFF)
will help cover the costs for this seminar.
Co-Pilot Activity
As far as “extracurricular” activities
in and around Laughlin, it seems that
we have done everything offered in the
area at least once. However, there was
one more idea, and when the manager
of our host FBO Landmark endorsed it,
we decided on Keepers of the Wild, a
non-profit animal rescue park northeast
of Kingman on historic Route 66. To
learn more about it, go to their website
at www.keepersofthewild.org. There
are more than 175 animals – lions, tigers,
leopards, monkeys, cougars, etc. – all
having been rescued from abuse, neglect, abandonment or retired captive
animals. Even though the manager had
a real “close and up-front tour” (we
certainly won’t be doing that!), he assured us that the regular tour or the
guided safari tour will be a real treat
for our group. It’s very reasonable to
get in at $18/adults and $15/seniors.
We’ll be renting vans for the occasion
and we’ll have lunch at a “local” spot.
Saturday night Banquet Dinner
Our banquet dinner will be the same
as in prior years, and it is scrumptious!
The cost, per person, is $40.
Temperatures
Laughlin should be in the mid 80s
to low 90s during April, so plan accordingly.
hotel Information
There is both a smoking section and
non-smoking section for the gamblers.
Rooms are $49.99/night, with a 72-hour
cancellation policy. To make reservations
call (877) 881-5955. Be sure to specify
the group code number of S03SCT3
(group name is “Southwest Comanche
Tribe”). Cut-off date for reservations is
3/31/2013. There are four restaurants on
site, plus a Starbucks, Baskin-Robbins,
Cinnabon and McDonald’s ... in other
words, buffet to fast food to gourmet for
meals. Harrah’s will provide van transportation to/from the airport on Friday
afternoon and Sunday morning. Their
website is www.harrahslaughlin.com
if you’d like to look up anything.
Airport/FBo
Laughlin/Bullhead (IPF) is our host
airport, and Landmark Aviation our
FBO. Landmark has once again generously provided a hangar for our use
for the maintenance seminar. They
are also providing a ten cent per gallon discount for fuel, and no charge
for parking with the purchase of fuel,
otherwise parking is $15/night.
If you have any questions about the
fly-in, please call Lorne or Peg Harmon
at (928) 717-2630 (home), (928) 9251225 (cell), or email flying@cableone.
net. We’re very excited about this year’s
fly-in and look forward to having you
join us.
Call Today for Advertising Opportunities
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Phone: (231) 946-3712 or 1-800-773-7798, FAX: (231) 946-9588,
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Coming soon!
Ultramarine (blue) Sun Visor
with ICS Logo, 100% cotton.
Tips Manual
Creech Manual
Landing
Gear DVD
Ball Cap
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Knit Polo
(light blue, mens with pocket, ladies no pocket, 65% poly, 35% cotton)
Coffee Mugs
Polo Shirts (with pocket)
Stone Washed Denim Shirt
Decal, Patch
Lapel Pins
Mens Ultramarine Knit Polo Shirt
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Code Item
ICS11 Tips Manual
Price Qty
$65.00
Easy to use, fold flat spiral bound, 365 pages.
Updated version due soon.
ICS23
Care and Maintenance of the
Piper Comanche Single (Creech Manual)
$25.00
Landing Gear DVD
$25.00
Donated by Maintenance Director and life-long
member, Bill Creech. Tips on care and
maintenance of your Single Comanche.
ICS35
Watch complete gear removal from the airplane and
1000 hour gear AD performed and hosted by Hans
Neubert and George Mahurin. 2 hours.
ICS27 Mens Ultramarine Polo Shirt with Pocket
Circle selection: Single: S M L XL XXL
$35.00
ICS24 Mens Light Blue Knit Polo Shirt with pocket
Circle selection:
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Single: S XL
$35.00
ICS09 Mens White Polo Shirt with pocket
Circle selection: Single S M L XL XXL
Twin S M L XL XXL
Both S M L XL XXL
$35.00
$35.00
ICS14 Ladies Light Blue Knit Polo Shirt
Circle selection: S M L XL XXL
Circle selection: Twin Both Single
$35.00
ICS32 Ball Cap
Circle selection: Tan Blue
Circle selection: Twin Single
$14.00
ICS34 Visor
$14.00
ICS26 Coffee Mug
Circle selection: Single Twin
$7.50
ICS10 Lapel Pin
Circle selection: Single Twin Logo
$5.00
ICS05 Decals (price for 2)
$5.00
ICS06 Cloth Patch
$6.00
USA
Canada Foreign
Creech or Tips Manual
$4.00
$16.00
Decal or Patch
$1.00
$1.25
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Any Other Item
$5.50
$15.00
$26.00
$31.00
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Circle selection:
S M L XL XXL
Circle selection:
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Circle selection:
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Handling
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Innovation. Reliability. Value.
Ship Order To:
The Original Lightweight Starter
Name:
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City:
Payment:
State:
MC
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Zip:
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Other: (231) 946-3712
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• (Twoissueminimum)
• 25Words:$50.00/2issues
• 25Wordsw/Photo:
$70.00/2 issues
• ExtraWords:$0.40/word
• Paymentmustaccompany
advertisement order.
All advertising must be received by the ICS in
writing (mail, fax, or e-mail) five weeks prior
to the desired month of publication. Payment
must accompany advertisement order.
Comanches For Sale
PA24-260
1965 260, well maintained IFR. N8651P, S/N
24-4094. TT5540, SMOH1782, New stab horn AD.
New Sky-Tec starter and cables, Stec 50 autopilot,
3-yr new leather interior. King KX155, 170B, KMA,
Garmin 496 with XM radar, Powertow 35, Paint 6+.
All manuals and Powertow included. $64,900
reduced. Ken (618)304-4996.
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Renewals may be made by telephone,
but initial ad must be in writing.
Trading Post & Classified
Advertising Contact:
Nancy A. Whitten
2779 Aero Park Drive
Traverse City, MI 49686
Phone: (800) 773-7798
Fax: (231) 946-9588
1966 PA260B SN 24-4411 N8954P TTAF 3000,
SMOH 1392, Prop SMOH 71 Hrs.Center Stack
Panel with 2 King 155's, 6 Seat, Met-Co-Aire Wing
Tips, Knots2U Gap Seals, Custom Blue Interior,
Electric Trim, Hartzell Prop, 4 Fuel Tanks, 1-Piece
Windshield, New electric fuel pump, Hangared in
Phoenix since I bought it in 1978. Lost Medical,
out of Annual, $39,500. Bob (602)996-0800,
[email protected]
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Trading Post is a non-commercial, member to member service provided free of charge, one time per
member, per year. The sale of aircraft is not permitted
in the Trading Post.
• Adsmustbesubmittedinwriting
only (fax or E-mail OK).
• Freeadsmaynotbeplacedbyphone.
• First25wordsarefree.
• Extrawordsare$0.40perword.
Fax: (231) 946-9588
Right trunnion: Serial #26-4385, P/N20752-09,
Rebuilt with reinforcing web $2,700 USD; Left
trunnion: Serial #7100-S, P/N27053-00, $3,500
USD. 8130 & yellow tagged BS&B Industries.
[email protected]
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Aircraft Wanted
COMANCHES WANTED: All models, runouts OK,
needing P&I/Radio upgrades OK, fast discriminate
transaction on your ramp 20 years experience/
references. Call Jim, (760) 803-3093. avloc@
yahoo.com.
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SALE OR TRADE: Beautiful low time PA-30 Twin,
hangared in Michigan (HTL). Well equipped.
Knots2U modes. Call for details or what you have
to trade. Dick (517)281-0609.
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TRADING POST
The publisher makes no warranties as to
the veracity or accuracy of the information
provided by the advertiser. The publisher is
under no obligation to accept any or all
advertisements.
International
Comanche Society
50 auto pilot; Strikefinder; Tip tanks; RE/LE 818
hours; Airframe 5263 hours. $70,000. Cell
(317)496 7087.
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69 260C N9359P, 3100TTAF, 800SFOH E/P Garmin
530/430W, 340 audio, EI monitors, factory oxygen,
2 independent auto pilots, etc, etc. See March
2010 Flyer or Controller.com for pictures. Meticulous documented tail to spinner restoration.
$110,000; Jeff, [email protected]
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PA30
1963 Twin Comanche PA30; Hangared; annualed
Aug 2012; NDH; Dual KX 155; NavComs; S-Tec;
Lycoming LIO-320-C1A Parts for sale with engine
log book; (1) LW10495 crankshaft certified, std.;
(1) crankcase, accessory case certified, with oil
sump; (1) RSA-5AD1 fuel servo; (1) Ray Jay turbo
core; Starter, Alternator for LIO-320-C1A; (1) cam
shaft with lifters for LIO-320-C1A. Best Offer.
George: [email protected]; (320) 2723336 home; (320) 760-2131 cell.
2/2
Generators for sale: Two each: 50A Delco-Remy
generators (10 hours since OH, new brushes and
bearings), (mounting brackets and noise filter included); 50A Zeftronics regulators (do not require
a paralleling relay). Fred: [email protected]. 2/2
Parts for sale: PA30 Engine heaters for each
engine- cylinder and oil pan. PA30 Spinners and
back plates. PA30 Blades #7663-4. PA30
Fiberglass Nose Bowls. (1) Horizon 52D21-1, (1)
DG52D27E, (1) 1C359-1 Mitchel, (1) 1-B405, (1)
DG52B15E. PA24-180 Air box - working good
when removed. PA24-180 Complete Exhaust
System. Wanted: 1-CP13M audio panel. Gene
(816)252-7865 after noon CST.
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ABBREVIATION KEY
A/C
AD’s
ADF
AH
A&P
AI
A/P
AP
CDI
CHT
COM
C/R
C/T
DF
DG
DME
EFIS
EGT
ELT
E/P
F/D
FGP
FWF
GPS
G/S
GSP
H/P
HP
HSI
IFR
IMC
ILS
LE
LOC
LORAN
M/B
MDH
NDH
NM
NAV
OAT
OH
PET
RB
R/C
RE
RG
RNAV
SB’s
SCMOH
SFN
SFRM
SMOH
SOH
S/N
SPOH
STOH
TBO
TT
TTAE
TTSN
XPDR
Air Conditioning
Airworthiness Directives
Automatic Direction Finder
Artificial Horizon
Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic
Aircraft Inspector
Audio Panel
Autopilot
Course Deviation Indicator
Cylinder Head Temperature
Communication
Counter Rotating
Carburetor Temperature
Direction Finder
Directional Gyro
Distance Measuring Equipment
Electronic Flight Instrument System
Exhaust Gas Temperature
Emergency Locator Transmitter
External Power Plug
Flight Director
Full Gyro Panel
Firewall Forward
Global Positioning System
Glide Slope
Ground Service Plug
Heated Pitot
Horsepower
Horizontal Situation Indicator
Instrument Flight Rules
Instrument Meteorological Conditions
Instrument Landing System
Left Engine
Localizer (Runway Centerline Guidance)
Long Range Navigation System
Marker Beacon
Major Damage History
No Damage History
Nautical Miles
Navigation Radio Receiver
Outside Air Temperature
Overhaul
Piper Electric Trim
Rotating Beacon
Rate of Climb
Right Engine
Retractable Landing Gear
Area Navigation
Service Bulletins
Since Chrome Major Overhaul
Since Factory New
Since Factory Remanufacture
Since Major Overhaul
Since Overhaul
Serial Number
Since Propeller Overhaul
Since Top Overhaul
Time Between Overhauls
Total Time
Total Time Airframe and Engine
Total Time Since New
Transponder
APRIL 2013
PLACING AN AD?
Use this list as a guideline for the information you may
want to provide and the order in which to do so.
• YEAR, Model Year of Aircraft
• MODEL, PA 24-180, 250, 260, 400
• SERIALNUMBER, Serial Number of Aircraft
• N-NUMBER, Registration Number of Aircraft
• TOTALAIRFRAMETIME, Total Hours On Airframe
• AIRFRAMEDAMAGEHISTORY, Any Damage
History e.g. Gear Up Landing
• TOTALENGINETIME, Total Hours On Engine Since
Factory New or Remanufactured
• ENGINETIMESINCETOPORMAJOROVERHAUL
• PROPELLERTIME, Total Time On Prop Since New
or Overhaul
• ANNUALINSPECTIONDATE
• FLIGHTINSTRUMENTS, Standard Gyro Panel,
Electronic Flight Instrument System
• RADIO/NAVIGATIONEQUIPMENTLISTING,
Communications & Navigation Equipment Listing
e.g. GPS, ILS, VORs
• WEATHERADVOIDANCEEQUIPMENT, Stormscope,
Radar,
• SPECIALEQUIPMENTLISTING, Engine Monitor
(EGT, CHT, Fuel Flow, etc.)
• AUTOPILOT, Type & Make of Autopilot
• INTERCOM
• INTERIORCONDITION&NUMBEROFSEATS
• EXTERIORMODIFICATIONS, Gap Seals, Wing
Tips, Speed Mods, Windshield
• PAINTCONDITION
• HANGEREDORTIEDDOWN
• ADNOTECOMPLIANCE
• GENERALCOMMENTS
• ASKINGPRICE
• CONTACTPHONENUMBER
• CONTACTE-MAIL
ADVERTISING INDEX
Aerotech Publications ........................... 19
Johnston Aircraft Services ................... C4
Aerox ..................................................... 41
Knots 2U, Ltd. ....................................... 48
Air Parts of Lock Haven ........................ 37
Lighthawk ........................................... 6,27
Aircraft Specialties Services.................. 18
Met-Co-Aire .......................................... C3
Aircraft Spruce and Specialty ................. C3
Oilamatic, Inc........................................ 17
Alpha Aviation ....................................... 43
Paul Bowen Photography ...................... 48
Aviation West Insurance Broker ........... 48
Plane Power .......................................... C2
B & C Specialty Products Inc................ 45
Poplar Grove Airmotive ........................ 43
Bogert Aviation ..................................... C3
Precision Propeller ................................ 43
Bruce’s Custom Covers ........................... 7
Preferred Airparts.................................... 3
Clifton Aero ........................................... 27
Questair ................................................. 41
Comanche Flyer Foundation ................ 11
Rocky Mountain Propellers, Inc. ........... 19
Comanche Gear ...................................... 9
Ron & John’s Comanche Service ........... 38
Electronics International ..................... C2
Sky Manor’s Air Repair LLC ................. 45
General Aviation Modifications ............. 27
Sky Tec Partners Ltd ........................... C2
Great Lakes Aero Products .................. C3
Sound Ex Products ................................ 17
Ground Tech ......................................... 43
Tsuniah Lake Lodge .............................. 17
Hartzell Propeller, Inc. .......................... 17
Warren Gregoire & Associates ................ 9
Heritage Aero, Inc ................................. 19
Zephyr Aircraft Engines ........................ 15
J.L. Osborne, Inc. .................................... 7
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 Replace
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 Replace
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Battery
Box
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Replace
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