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1 IDENTIFICA TION RTLM0342du 15/03/94 DURÉE 60 minutes QUALITÉ Bonne TRANSMISSION : NOM DU FICHIER : RTLM 0342 DATE DE TRANSCRIPTION : NOM DU TRANSCRIPTEUR DICTAPHONE Radio RTLM Le 14.10.1999 MUSHONGANONO Béatrice BO- 760/49MODELE:2750-6SERIE:516565 QRA TEUR: HABIMANAKantano ...te saambili n’iminota makumyabiri n’ine mutiStidiyo za Radiyo yigenga RTLMivugira i Kigali abatwumva mwesemwesemweseahomurihoseturabashuhuje, turabashuhuje turabasuhuza hano... muri Stidiyo.Ni... RUHIGIRAOnesphoreuri kuri technique,DUSABIMANANKOMATI K014t800 Emmanuel urikuriah...uriku uzakurimicronanjye HABIMANA Kantano, turabashuhuje turaba tuganira kugeza.., saa.., sitakugeza saasitadufunze ibyuma byacu nihotuganira.., uh... turaganira tubagezaho ibiganiro bishyushye, amakuru menshi anyuranye kubera ko Radiyo RTLMni Radiyo yanyu, Radiyo... Sympakubera ko ni Radiyo umuntu yiyegereza akavuga ati"ndarengana" mbese ni ijwi, niijwi ry’abatagira ijwiniijwi ry’abatagira uruvugiro, ry’abatagira uruvugiro niukuvuga rubanda rugufi, rubanda rugufi rwoseihaijambo burimuntu weseweseushoboye kugira icyoavuga. Hanyuma setubafitiye makuru ki?Ha... tubafitiye makuru ki se?Uyumunsi uh...muriakakanya, muriaka kanyaamakuru mfiteturareba.., i Cyangugu i Cyangugu muriKomine Kimbogo turareba.., ankete zakurikiranye yatagisi bavuze yukoyariitwaye Inkotanyi izijyanye i Cyangugu ngokujya guhorera a...batutsi bailba...bakomerekeye mu mvururu zo muriKomine Kimbogo nyumay’iyicwa rya Nyakwigendera BUCYANA Maritini, turareba reroicyoanketi zatanze turebe kokonibaba bantu baribagiye muritaxiEB nomero ndazakuzibona mu kanya, turebe kokobariInkotanyi cyangwa zitari zo kukoibintu barabikurikiraniye hafihafihafi,ku buryobamenye ukobyagenze. Turaza kugaruka.., kuri"Congrès" ya PSD"Congrès" ya PSDyabereye i Butare, imweyatumye batora Abaministre eh ba bavuga yukolistey’Abaministre.., eh...y’Abaministre bashobora gusimbura Nyakwigendera GATABAZI Felesiyane, tu turaza kureba ukoiyo"Congrès" yagenze kukoharimwo utuntu.., harimo utuntu dushekeje, eh kubona NZAMURAMBAHO yariyicaye ahantu yatinye kugera aho"Congrès" iberaailPerezida w’ishyaka, nabyoturaza kureba impamvu nyumakandini yari yohereje abantu muriKomine, mu Makomine yoseya Butare ngobabuze Abaperezida ba PSDkuza muriiyo nama,hanyuma.., bimugendekera uko atifuzaga mwumvenamweuwo muturanyi wo ku Gikongoro ibintu abaarimoni akumiro. Turaza kunyarukira muBurundi, mu Burundi reroturebe ukuntu bimeze i Bujumbura, i Burundi hari ikintu mutazi hariikintu mutazi, ni ukoya Guverinoma yananiwe gutegeka byarayoberanye, nyuma kandi ikintu mutari muzini ukomu ijoro ryokuwa gatanu n’iryo ku wa gatandatu, bosebosebari biteguye "Coupd’Etat" nezanezabyarangiye, byarangiye bagira ngobagandagure abasigaye barimo NYANGOMA, barimo... Sylvestre NTIBANTUNGANYA, hanyumanonehoabategetsi benshib’i Burundi murimoAbaministre n’Abadepite, abeshi baribahungiye mu Rwanda. Ubworeroibyo Cassette N° 0342transcrite parMB. K0141801 ntimwari mubizi. Mu kanyaturagaruka kuriiriyaaffaire ya Directeur wa IMPRISCO wa Direya Directeur wa IMPRIMERIE SCOLAIRE, eh...mu by’ukuri... Directeur wa IMPRLMERIE SCOLAIREibintu akoramurikiriyakigobiteyeubwoba,nyamarawakumvaTWAGIRAMUNGU FaustiniAlias RUKOKOMA agirangoamugire Ministre, ukumirwa ukibaza umuntu uryaeh uryawinoy’impapuro, akarya akazukubatse imbere y’iwe, akarya ikimashini cy’amakaye, akarya groupe électrogène uwo muntuyabaMinistre mbeseiyoMinistère bamuha yasigaramo iki?Turongera tumugereho ibiriho biravugwa, ibiriho biravugwa. Hanyuma turaza kureba ibyobitaubuzima, ubuzima bwitebw’umuntu icyoaricyo,ibyoaribyo byoseubuzima bwitebw’umuntu ukomeye ah...bavuga yuko"lavie publique d’unhomme public" (arasetse) non"lavieprivée d’unhomme public" yegoibaho, ibaho nari ngiyekuvuga ngoça n’existe pasibaho, arikorerokenshi abanyamakuru turayishorogotora kuko abantu bosebababafite arnatsiko yo kumenya ubuiby’ubwo buzima ibyoaribyo. Muriévëché y’iKabgayi biracika, muriévêché y’iKabgayi biracika mu kanyandabagezaho inkuru irambuye, twumve Abasenyeri n’Abapadiri ukuntu ailbombori bombori ng’uko ukobimeze reromuri ikigitondo ayayayaya! Ubureroamakuru yandaraye nayiyongera, ariko hagati ahohinga hambanze mpumurize abantubo muriSIRWA,abantubo muriSIRWAbarahangayitse ngo navuzeyuko imodoka yaboyajyanye umurambo "cercueil" yarimu ah eh...ijyakuwuhamba i Nyamirambo ari imwe,hanyuma nakoze anketi narakurikiye cyanemu kanyandazakubabwira ukuntu byagenze mbese murimakengayaamakuru ashyushye mfitenonaha, ashyushye mfitenonahangiyekubagezaho hanyuma.., uhu... (arasetse)! Ntabwo byoroshye iby’iki gihe,ntabwo byoroshye babandi bakoresha iterabwoba, bakoresha iterabwoba ngobashaka kuducecekesha batangiye, batangiye doremu kanya ibaruwa ya "Procureur", Procureur wa...Kigali amazekunyandikira aaa.., ibaruwa nimero zeru magana abiri mirongo incnarimweD cuminarimweA prore, yayayaya, ngonîtabe nonaha saatatu kuriParquet yeee!Parquet ya Kigali, eh eh eh wabona atamfunze uriyamugabo, ngo.., ngonitabe MUSHUMBA JeanBaptiste aha.., rerobarareze, eh ndajya kumvaukobimeze mfiteamatsiko nanjye, ah ah ah ah ndajemu kanyaProcureur twumvikane ndebeumuntu wandeze, eh...ubwoni muri babandi bashaka kugira ngoabatagira ijambo bekurigira, a...badashaka batifuriza amahoro Radiyo RTLMabumva ibabangamiye (arasetse) muragorwa n’ubusa ni hahandi, ni hahandi na MUHABURA iracyavuga, kacyavuga ahubwo nibiba ngombwa nibiba ngombwa nidukurikiranwa tuzahunga, ariko K0141802 rerontabwo ntawe uzashobora gufunga ikirere, ntawe uzashobora gufunga ikirere amajwi azajya abageraho, (arasetse) mwabishaka mutabishaka mzavuga, tuzavuga kandi tuzavugira abantu batagira ijambo iyiradiyo niiyabo, iyiradiyo niiyabo kandi amaherezo nimunashaka nokuyifunga, abobose nibomuzabonana, muzabonana ubworerontacyo ntacyo twetuzavuga ibiriho biravugwa, ibiriho biravugwa ntakundi byagenda. Mazererotwumve umuziki, twumve umuziki hanyuma amakuru ndayabagezaho.., hagati muriayo masaha kugeza saatatunitabye Procureur epfoiriya kuriParquet, ubwongubwo mubemwumva umuziki turakomeza tuganire rerokugeza saatatu. ...Kigali... kumirongo y’ijana nagatandatu namirongo cyenda.., nakane, ubunisaambili saambili n’iminota mirongo itatu n’itanu, saambili n’iminota mirongo itatu n’itanu muri Stidiyo zaRadiyo yigenga ivugira hanoi Kigali Radiyo yanyu RTLM. Mu kanya reronababwiraga yukotugaruka ku bya... PSD, ishyaka PSDaya... "Congrès" nyuma y’aho Bureau politique, Bureau politique yayaryo iteraniye muri"HOTEL MER/DIEN UMUBANO i Kigali, hanyuma igato.., igaikavuga yukoihisemo IYAMUREMYE Agusitini kuzabaMinistre... w’Imirimo ya Letan’ingufu agasimbura Nyakwigendera GATABAZI Felesiyani, ett.. munyamara kandi Abanyabutare abenshi bailbandikiye iyoBureau politique yukoya... ahubwo yahitamo UWlBAJIJE Sylvestre, Ambassadeur w’uRwanda i Bujumbura noneho ahubwo undiakaza kuzaariukobyananiranye ibindi, ubworero.., ah... NZAMURAMBAHO Ferederiko we yihitiyemo IYAMUREMYE, IYAMUREMYE Agusitini hariya murimaneko, nukoabantu rerobagenda babyibazaho byinshi nibwo hateranye "Congrès" idasanzwe y’ishyaka PSDi Butare, hanyuma arikoNZAMUR.AMBAHO ayimkankaho kugira ngoayibuze guterana, ayibuze guterana yohereza intumwa muMakomine hoseabwira abantu ngobe kwirirwa baza,mu kanyaagiyekubona nukobarazabaraterana, baraterana nukononeho.., ngo IYAMUREMYE... IYAMUREMYE Agusitini yarebye abantu bamushyigikiye abonaarintabo, aravuga ati"ibingibi ndabigenza gute"? Ati"noneho dutore kukoGATABAZI nawetwaramutoye ahyia...bangi ashyamiranye naNYUNGURA, twahanyuma noneho tuzekureba icyobitanga", nuko barareba bati"ibibintu ntabwo tubivamo", bati"ahubwo turasaba yukoBureau politique yatanga Abakandida (Candidats) babiri ikabaha Ministre w’Intebe, nukononeho n’inama y’abasaza, inama Cassette Ne 0342transcrire parMB. K0141803 y’ abasaza yariyateraniye kwaNDUHUNGIREHE eh,igirangoibuzeiyo"Congrès" nayontacyo yabotanzeiyonamarerobitaga ngo"Conseil dessages" ntacyo yatanze, noneho "Congrès" rero ibayenikokohereza bahitamo kohereza Abakandida (Candidats) babiri, IYAMUREMYE Agusitini, Veterineri IYAMUREMYEAgusitini na CYOKERE UWIBAJIJE Sylvestre, CYOKERE UWIBAJIJE Sylvestre arikorerotwizere ko n’ubwouyu mugabo UWIBAJIJE Sylvestre yakunze kuvamoInkotanyi cyanemu migambi yazozabaga zirimoi Bujumbura akanabyandika rwoseku mugaragaro bîkajya hanze,twizere yukoInkotanyi zizagira inamamucuti wazoTWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitini aliasRUKOKOMAkuzahitamo UWIBAJIJESylvestreCYOKERE,kukoha abantu benshi b’iButare niwebashaka ubworero.., twizere ko atazabangamira ubushake bw’Abanyabutare, bw’Abanyabutare agahitamo uwo mugabon’ubwoad mu gi...pande twakwita PSD POWER,PSD POWERicyogihererotuwetwizere yukoariwebazahitamo kubera ko Abanyabutare benshi benshi cyane, benshi cyane kandibyaragaragaye si ibyompimba ntawedupfa ntawerugira icyodupfa muri bariya bose,ariVeterineri IYAMUREMYE Agusitini ni inshuti yanjye, ariUWIBAJL1E Sylvestre ntacyo dupfaabobosererogusanakoze.., nateye icyumvirizo mu Banyabutare bo...se nsanga UWlBAJIJE Sylvestre ariwebashakako asimburaNyakwigendera GATABAZI Felisiyane ku mwanya wa Ministre w’Imirimo ya Letan’ingufu. Twumve umuziki. (Musique... 8.8) ¯ ~/i ORATEUR: Non tdenttfi~_ ...ubworozi aranze arakurura akaduruvayo. Nkahariya hakurya, hariya hakurya muriuriya mushinga. Hanyuma rerosiibyogusakandi siyonkuru yonyine dufite gusa, hari.., n andimakuru ashyushye tuza kubagezaho arikokanditubafitiye n’ubutumwa bwanyu, hariamatangazo yo kubika, amatangazo yo kuranga kurangisha ndetse nokumenyesha. Ibyobyose birajya bigenda bisimburana n’indirimbo. Reka twumve reroindirimbo ikurikira. ORATEUR:GAHIGIGasvar_d ...reroiby’iryo rushanwa mukazabinyuza kuriRTLMboîtepostale makumyabiri n’icyenda mirongo ine n’umunani KIGALI.(B.P2948KIGALI). Iryorushanwa reroibibazondi bubasomere, ntimwirirwe mufata.., mubyandika ahubwo n’ukwihutira kugura Kangura nimero mirongo itanu (Kangura ° 58) ’umunani, n yo iangura K kaba i zasohoka i u w k a k abiriariki t umi c ’eshanu n ’uku z kwezi.Ubwo rero guherakuri Kanguranimeromirongoitanun’umunani,ubuyobozi bw’Ikinyamakuru Kangurabufatanyije n’abayikunda, yakoresheje irushanwa mu rwegorwo K0141804 gucengeza ibitekerezo byaKangura mu bayikunda. Ibihembo byose bikazatangwa.., byatanzwe kandi byagejejwe kuriKangura n’abayikunda nyinebayifuriza kuramba. Dorereroibyobihembo ukobiteye kugezamagingoaya kandibikazakomeza kugendabyiyongera. Uzabauwa mbereazahembwa amafaranga ibihumbi makumyabiri na bitanu. Uzabauwakabiri, azahabwa amafaranga ibihumbi cumi na bitanu. Nahouzabauwagatatu, ahabwe ticket y’indege Kigali-Bujumbura-Kigali. Uwakane, abone tidket y’indege Kigali-Gisenyi-Kigali. Nahouwagatanu, ahabwe iradiyo. Uwagatandatu, azahabwa imiguru itatuy’inkweto nahouwakarindwi ahabwe isaha. Uzabauwamunani azibonera ibiro ijana by’ibirayi, n’amagi ijana n’igitenge ahubwo ndabona a_rite akayabo. Uzaba uwacyenda, azahabwa imitaka ibirina essuie-main bihenze. Uzabauwacumi,azahabwa ipakiy’impapuro wongeyeho amakaye umunyeshuri yakoresha umwakawose. Ubworeroibibazo.., ndagira ngombibagezeho mu mwanya, arikoKangura iti"hariicyitonderwa". Ubuyobozi bwaKangura buti"irushanwa riramutse ritsinzwe n’umunyeshuri wigamu Rwanda mu mashuri abanza cyangwa yisumbuye, Kangura izamurihira akokanyaminérval yatanga umwaka wose. Abanyeshuri reroubwomurahishiwe. Kubera kandiibihembo bishobora kwiyongera kubera nyine ko Kangura ifiteabagira nezabiyemeje kuzayihembera abazatsinda, ibihembo bizongerwa ku bazaba nyine batsindiye iriya myanya. Ahoumunyeshuri azajya anganya n’undi utari umunyeshuri, Kangura... izajya imwongereraho agahimbazamuskyi. Ahazajya haboneka umukobwa watsinze, Kangura na none imwongerereho agahimbazamuskyi k’ amavuta n’ amasabune yo kwisiga. Ubwoharin’ibibazo nyine mu...ri bubone nimara kubibasomera, ibibazo usanga ailiby’amatsiko bigatuma reroumuntu hari ibibazo bitatu yishe, icyokibazo bitecy’amatsiko cyamuhesha amanota noneho bigatuma asimbura byabibazo yishe. Nongere rerombasubiriremo ko ibisubizo mugomba kubyohereza kuriRTLM, boîte postale agasanduka makuk’Iposita makumyabiri n’icyenda mirongo inen’umunani KIGALI. (B.P 2948KIGALI.) Ubworeroku ibahasha ni ukwandikaho "Irushanwa rya Kangura, RTLMboîte postale makumyabiri n’icyenda mirongo inen’umunani KIGALI". Mukandika ku ibahasha muti "Irushanwa rya Kangura, RTLMboîtepostale makumyabiri n’icyenda mirongo inc n’umunani KIGALI". Nkagira ngo noneho mbasomere ibisubizo. Nakombasomere ibibazo, ibisubizo nyine nimwemuzabitanga ndagira ngombasomere ibibazo nkagira ngonk’uko nabibabwiye nkitangira, Cassette N° 0342transcrire parMB. K0741805 mwekwifirwa mufata amakaramu mubyandika ahubwo muzajye kugura... Kangura nimero mirongo itanun’umunani izasohoka.., tariki cumin’eshanu z’ukukwezi, noneho muzasangamo muriiyo Kangura, urupapuro ruriho ibibazo ngiyekubasomera kandintimuzibeshye ngomu urwompapuro murukoreshe photocopie, ni ukwandika ku mpapuro original, kukouzandika ku rwaphotocopie Kangura itazabyemera azabareroapfushije ubusaibisubizo bye,n’ukugura Kangura ugacamo urwo mpapuro akabaarirwo usubirizaho. Nusubiriza ku mpapuro rwaphotocopie, ntabwo ibisubizo byawe bizemerwa. Dorereroibibazo ukobiteye. Ikibazo cyambere. Ibibazo urebye ni iby’aba birabasaba cyanekubamwarasomye Kangura, cyangwa nibamutarayisomye mukajya kuzishaka, byose ni ibintu byahise murinimero za Kangura ubworero utazifite ni ukuzishaka, uzifite agatangira akazisha akazijagajaga akareba nyine ibibazo ahobiri. Ikibazo l:~l_/ahg~, ni mu yiheKangura haboneka itariki makumyabiri n’ebyiri z’ukwezi kwakabiri igihumbi kimwemagmacyenda mirongo cyenda, a.hoUmwami Yesuyabwiye umuntu wariwikubise hasi?Ni ikiUmwami Yesuyamubwiye yariyarahishe aboyagombaga kukibwira? Abobantuni ba nde? Ikibazo g.v_a_.lial~i, nindewandikiwe urwandiko rurimo interuro igira iti"turashaka gusubira mu gihugu cyacu, ntabutaka tuburana bwoguhingamo hariibindi byinshi twakora byateza amajyambere mu Rwanda, ibindi byagira akamaro ibindi byagira akamaro kurusha isuka. Ni ndewasinye urwo rwandiko? Yabonekaga kukahegasanduka k’iposita? Icyokikaba a.riikibazo cyakabiri, nababwiye ko mutirirwa mubyandika kukoeh..muzabisanga muriKangura nimeromirongo itanuumunam, ¯ ndetse ibindi bibazo mukazabisanga muriKangura mirongo itanu n’icyenda, ibindi mukabisanga muri Kangura nimero mirongo itandatu. lkibazo rerocyagai/lin, ni muyihe Kangura habonekamo iyinteruro, interuro igiraiti"ubwo HABYARIMANA... yasheshaga inzego za...Partiku ya gatanu Nyakanga mirongo irindwi ha gatatu mirongo irindwi na gatatu warihe"?Ni mu yiheKangura HABYARIMANA... yavuze ati"turemeza rwoseko tutazagera ku majyambere mu mwiryane n’inzangano mu Banyarwanda". Kangura... imaze gupfauh Kangura, Kangura imazegupfusha Abanyamakuru bangahe? Ni ba ride?Inyandiko uwitwa MUTABESHYERWA AntoineKomineMukingoSegiteriBusogo,SerireRukoroagasanduka k’iposita mirongo itatunagatatu RUHENGERI, yoherereje Kangura ku yihetariki bisohoka mu yihe Kangura, ku ruherupapuro? Urumva ko ad ikibazo gisaba kubamwarasomye Kangura. 8 N0t41806 Ikibazo ~Llfang, ni mu yiheKangura hasohotse iyinteruro igiraiti"lePARMEHUTU n’ajamais nourri aucune intention dehaine raciale". Ikibazo l:~~~ala, kirimo ibibazo bitatu. Ikibazo cyambere, abategetsi bashushanyije bambaye ubusababonetse ubwamberekuriKangura mu kuhekwezi? Ni bande? Ikibazo g,v..a..kahi_fi ariko.., cy’igice cy’icya gatanu, uwoKangura yise"Vétérinaire deformation apprenti politicien avecun gouvernement incompétent ni inde? Akabazok&..gg~ku cya gatanu,Kangurayandikiye Ambassadeur w’Abanyamerika ryarî? Yamushimiraga iki?Yamusabaga iki?Iyobaruwa yanditse, iyobaruwa yanditse mu zihendimi? Ikibazo ¢y_agatanflatn, interuro igiraiti"uretse ko Ibinyamakuru bikomeje kutwandikira kandi mwaratwizeye Mubyeyi, ubundi humura Inkotanyi uzabauzitsinda". Yasohotse mu yiheKangura? Akandi kabazo k’icya gatandatu, ifoto igaragara kuriKangura nimero cuumi n’esheshatu niiyande? Yavutse ryari apfaryari? Akabazo... ka gatatu k’icya gatandatu, ifoto igaragara kuriKangura nimero cumin’esheshatu ni iya nde?Eh...yavutse ryariapfaryari? Narimazekubivuga ahubwo icyobazonashakaga kugeraho ni interuro igiraiti"nyabuna rwoseBanyarwanda Bahutu, Batutsi namwe Batwanimuvugishe ukurimuvuge ibyomwifuza", yasohotse ku ruherupapuro rw’ikihe rw’iyihe nimero ya Kangura? lkibazo ey_ak~rindwi, akabazo ka mbere, uwitwaHANGIMANA yavuze ko ntaweuregaumusazi. Ntihazagire reroumuregera inyandiko ze.Byazotse mu yiheKangura? Eh... kikandi kabazo kajya k’icya karindwi, inyandiko "ubugira nezabw’inkware bwayigonze ijosi, yanditswe na nde?Mu yiheKangura? Akandikabazo,KANYARENGWE atumazeho Abatutsi ibonekamu yiheKangura? Ikibazo cyamunani, Kangura yabaye ijwirigamije gukangura no kurengera rubanda nyamwinshi ° bikwiye ryari9 Akandi kabazo k’icya munani, u wandan ~ Uburundi kubaigihugu kimwe, byasohotse ¯ R mu yiheKangura? Akandi kabazo, ku itariki ya kabiri z’ukwezi kwacumina kabiri mirongo cyenda na gatatu, Kangura yasohoye itangazo rivuga ibiki? Byandikwa na bande? Ikibazo ~_a__¢,v_¢_a~ kirimo utubazo dutatu, vugaitariki Abanyamakuru ba Kangura bagiye i Cassette N° 0342transcrite parMB, 9 K0t41807 Bujumbura kugirana imibonano n’abategetsi baho?Ni uwuhemutegetsi w’u... Burundi wabwiye Umunyamakuru wa Kangura ati "jewesindiumwanaw’Umwami, ibyoAbamibamabapfabiraba Abami"?Akandi,umunyamakuru HABIMANAKantanoyasuyeNGEZEHassanmurigerezaya Kigali baganirira mu yihedortoire? Ikibazo ~a ¢umi,vuga... Abanyacyangugu batunzwe agatoki na Kangura, kubabaragize uruhare mu iyicwa ryaBUCYANA? Abanyabutare bashinjwa na Kangura muriurworupfuni bande? Interuro "Monsieur JeanCarlos criminel commeKangura" ryasohotse mu yiheKangura? Byanditswe nande? Yabonekaga ku yiheadresse? Ikibazo ey_aenmiha kimw¢ aricyocyanyuma, ni ikibazo cy’amatsiko. Uzatsinda ikikibazo azaba afiteamahirwe yo kugisimbuza ibindi bitatu mu byo azabayatsinzwe. Akabazo ka mbererero k’amahirwe, dutegura irirushanwa twifashishije Kangura zingahe? Akandi kabazo k’amatsiko, vugaincuro NGEZEHassanamazegufungwa murigerezano muriza Brigades zo mu Rwanda? Akandikabazok’amahirwe ari nakoka nyuma,Guverinoma ya MRND,iya NSANZIMANA, iya NSENGIYAREMYE, n’iyaAgataUWlRINGIYIMANA, ni iyiheyafunzeAbanyamakuru benshi? Nk’uko reronabibabwiye ntangira, ibibazo muzabisanga muriKangura nimeromirongo itanu n’umunani, mirongo itanun’icyenda mirongo itandatu, noneho mubisange ku rupapuro ruzaba md muriizoKangura ukoail eshatu, noneho murucemo musubirizeho ibibazo mwumvise. Nababwîye reroko ataringombwa kwirirwa mubyandika kukon’iyowacaurworupapuro ugakora photocopie, ntabwo Kangura izemera ibisubizo byaweahubwo ugomba kwandika kuriurworupapuro original uciye murinimero mirongo itanun’umunani, mirongo itanun’icyenda na mirongo itandatu, noneho ukohereza rerourwandiko rwawekuriRTLMmd mu ibahasha, ukandikaho uti "irushanwa rya Kangura, RTLMagasanduka k’iposita makumyabiri n’icyenda mirongo incn’umunani KIGALI. Nonehoibihembo nababwiye mukazabibona nyumay’icyumweru kimweKangura nimeromirongo itandatu isohotse. Tubibutse kandiko Ikinyamakuru Kangura gisohoka burieyumweru, ubworero mu kwezikumwebizababirangiye nonehomuboneibihembo byanyuKangurayaba..,tegere yabateganyirije, Kangura n’abagizi ba... nezan’abagiraneza bayiteye inkunga. Ubworeroahasigaye ni ukubifuriza amahirwe, murakarama. (Musique...0.2) ORA TEUR: HABIMANA Kantano K0141808 10 ...sheamakuru akomeje.., abamenshi menshi menshi, menshi cyanehanorerotugeze ku... hinga ¯ ,~ t i mbagezeho amakuru y’inama z’umutekano muriPerefegltura y Umujywa Kigali, muriPeregegitura y’umujyi wa Kigali ahoumutekano utangiye kugenda ugaruka buhoro buhoro, hanyuma y’urupfu rwa ba Ministre rwaMinistre GATABAZI, n’inyuma y’iyicwa rya BUCYANA Maritini umutekano wari wabaye mukekokohanomuriKigali, wariwariwabaye mukicyaneku buryoibintu ndetse hari n’ abantu ba...basubiranyemo baricana kubera gushaka kwibacyangwa se kwihorera ku bindi, ku bindi bindihanyuma noneho ibintu bimera nabibituma mu mujyiwa Kigali habaumukwabu. Noneku wa gatandatu itariki ya cumina kabiri Wemrwe ku cyumweru, ubwohariku cyumweru tafiki eh... nokucyumweru tariki yacuminagatatu, menshi muMasegiteri... amenshi muMasegiteri y’amagaeh...y’Amakomine atatuya Perefegitire y’Umujyi wa Kigali,yasubukuye inama z’umutekano imvura yo kuwa kabiri itariki ya munarîi Werurwe yariya... yarogoye, muriSegiteri Cyahafi ya Komine Nyarugenge inamay’umutekano yahuje abatuye amaseAmaserire Akanyanza, Agakinjiro n’Akarinda agize.., agize iyoSegiteri yitabirwa n’abantu benshi barimo abikorera, abakozi ba Leta,ab’ibigo byigenga, iyoborwa ha Konseye wa Segiteri afatanyije n’impuguke zinyuranye zarimo n’intumwa ya Ministère y’Ubutegetsi bw’igihugu n’amajyambere ya Komine, iyonamayari igamije kungurana ibitekerezo ku kibazo cy’umutekano.., mu gihugu no mu mujyiwa Kigali muri rusange, arikocyane cyanemuriSegîteri Cyahafi ku buryobw’umwihariko, imyanzuro yayoniiyi. Abari mu namabarayishimiye bifuza ko izonamazihuza abayobozi n’abayoborwa zajyazibakenshi cyane cyanemubiheby’umutekano muke,abari mu namabahurije ku gitekerezo cyogushyira.., muri Segiteri Komite y’umutekano yunganira Konseye, Abaserire n’abakuru b’imiryango ikabaigizwe n’abahagarariye amashyaka ya politike, abahagarariye amadini n’amashyirahamwe. Komite y’umutekano muriSegiteri izagira amatsinda muriSerire ndetse.., n’amashami yayo hakurikijwe ibibazo by’umutekano byihariye, Komite y’umutekano niyoitegura amarondo ashamikiye kuriNyumbakumi, igakurikirana burikibazo cy’umutekano ikagikorera raporo, ikayigeza mu nzego zo hejuru zishinzwe umutekano. Komite y’umutekano ihuriweho eh...ihuihuriweho n’intumwa z’ amashyaka, ihuriweho n’intumwa z’amashyaka abahagarariye amashyirahamwe n’impuguke kandiikabaine inahuriwemo n’amoko Cassette N° 0342transcrire parMB. 1] K0141809 yose, uturere twose, amashyaka yosen’abantu b’imirimo y’inged zose. Komite y’umutekano izitoramo ibirobigizwe n’umuyobozi, umwungirije n’umwanditsi, ku wa kabifi tariki yacuminagatanu uyumunsi i saakumin’imwe n’igi¢e, buriSerire igire umwanya muriiyobiro kandi n’amatsinda yayo...muri buriSerire al’rite ashyîrwaho. Abarimu namabifujeko Komite y’umutekano yatangira akazikayovubaikihatira gucaburundu ababandi mufiSegitefi Cyahafi, nogusaka intwaro ¢yane cyanezagrenades. Abari munamabishimiye umutekano.., waranze Segit¢ri Cyahafi mufiibibiheby’akandare, biyemeza gukomezakuwubumbatira bunganirainzegoz’umutekano no gukoraamarondoy’ijoro n’ay’amanywa, acaarnabandi eyanecyaneku isetaya Gakinjiro, kurifeurougekwaGAFUKU, mu bikombe byaGakinjiro byombi, ku rugabano rwaSegitefi Cyahafi ha Gitega, ku muhanda w’igi w’igitaka. AilkuriKOPACYA, kwaKIMTALON, kuriabattoir n’ikibuga ¢yayo, mu ikorosi ryohafi ya BAR ZAÏRE,ZAÏRE-NIL hafiy’ikibuga cya Kimisagara n’ahandi hoseamabandi ategera abagenzi. Abarimu namabashyigikiye amarondo mu ngocumizituranye zishamikiye kuriNyumbakumi. Abarimu namabamaganye amarondo yashyizweho hutihuti,akabaarimoinsoresore zitazwi zirengera, ahokurwanya amabandi zigahohotera abagenzi n’abaturage mu ngo,basaba ko iyokipe yaseswa igasimbuzwa indiKomite y’umutekano izigaikayishyiraho byihutiwe. Abafimu namabashyigikiye igitek~ezo cyogutabarana ntakurobanura amashyaka, amokoeyangwa uturere. Bamaze kubona ko imyigaragambyo itunguranye ibaifiteabayoshya, abafimu namabasabye ko abashora urubyiruko mu mvururu zitunguranye zisenya, zisahura kandizicabajyabatahurwa kandi bagahanwa intangarugero. Inama yifuje ko abantu bosebaharanira.., kugarura umwuka mwiza ahobatuye, ailhagati y’abaturage ubwabo no hagati yabo,inamayifuje ko abantu boseba...baharanira kugarura umwuka mwizaaho batuye ailha... FindelafaceA FAÇE A ORA TEUR: HABIMANA Kantano ...rwosekugira ngohashyirweho ubutegetsi buhamye bwakwita kuriicyokibazo, no kwihutisha 12 ishyirwaho ry’inzego z’Inzibacyuho yaguye. K014t870 Ni Konseyererowa Segiteri CyahafiHARAG~AMichel. Eh,byemejwe ha Perefe waPerefegitura y’umujyi wa Kigali RENZAHO Tadsisi. Mukomeje kumva Radiyo yigenga RTLMivugira i Kigali, mazerero.., natangiye mukanya mvuga ibyerekeye ikibazo.., cy’imodoka bavugaga ngoni iyaSIRWA yajyanye abantu.., gushyingura umurambo, ndetse abandi bakibaza bati"umuntu wagiye gushyingura umurambo ad ad umwe, yashyize umurambo muisanduku", bati"ubwo harimo.., harimo yenda ibintu byakabutindi", kuko reroHATEGEKIMANA Faranswa akaba ariResiponsabure utuyehariya i Nyamirambo, akaba ail weucunga abantu baha... bacukura amarimbi yabingejejeho, umuntu wahambwe ku cyumweru n’umu ni umusore witwa... NSENGUMUREMYI Fawusitini, wavutse mu gihumbi kimwemagana cyenda mirongo itandatu hagatanu, ntabwo bavuze.., iwabo ha heheya... yaguye reromuribyabintu by’imvururu by’imyigaragambyo, akaba yariamaze iminsi yah!Umurambo wewaranukiye murieh... muri.., muri gatemeri, ahobita "muri gatemeri" niahobita "muri morgue", hariya.., muburuhukiro hanyuma rerouwomusore benewabobane, banegusabazamurimu modoka DAIHATSU baza... haumurambo barabanza ngobajya kugura imvahanyuma baraza hababasaba abantu barihatïaho ngahokubafasha kumushyingura, hanyuma nabajije uwoHATEGEKIMANA François Responsable hariya i Nyamirambo nibayarumvise.., kokobarumvise hariikintu kirimo, bazakuvuga yuko umurambo rwosewanukaga ko abawuhambye banukiwe cyane,hanyuma nonehobazaku... kuwushyingura. Nguko reroukobyagenze, hanyuma imodoka bajemo abantu.., babonaga isan’iya SIRWA ariko rerontaha ihuriye n’iya SIRWA, niDAIHATSU... baribibiyambaje sinzi ahoyari iturutse. Nguko ukoinkuru ubwongubwo turayibeshyuje, mukanya ndabeshyuza n’inkuru.., y’abantu bailbatubwiye yukohariimodoka yatwaye Inkotanyi izijyanye muriKomine Kimbogo ngozijye guhorera Abatutsi babailbagize ingorane bailbatwikiwe bitewe n’iyicwa ryaBwana Maritini BUCYANA. Baratubwira reroyukoizozitari Inkotanyi zitari Inkotanyi, yukoahubwo bariabantu batabaye hanyuma boseyegobari.., abenshi bailAbatutsi barimo batabaye mwenewabomu Kimbogo, ariko rero ehe! Nanone.., hari igishekeje, kubona Abatutsi bose ngonilnkotanyi, ehaho Cassette N° 0342transcrite parMB. K0141811 babonye biganirira ngoniInkotanyi nabyo bishobora kuyobya uburari Inkotanyi nyazozigaramiye, Inkotanyi nyazo zigaramiye uburerongozirimo zira.., ziravuga yukongozizagaba igitero ziturutse i Gasogi, i Gasogi ubworero.., ma abantu barabikurikiranira hafikugira ngobarebe nibaibyobintu kokobifite ishingiro, hanyuma.., amakuru yandini ayonababwiraga yo muriEvêché y’iKabgayi, Evêché y’iKabgayi rero.., baratubwira yukoibintu bitagenda nezaeh,ahongaho bagiye gushyira iradiyo (arasetse) MUKEBA, bagiye gushyira ardiyo MUKEBA ah...ku byerekeye Radiyo MUKEBA hariabantu bajyabambaza bati"eseiyoRadiyo MUKEBA... iyoRadiyo rwosey’iKabgayi, izajya ishyiramo misaguhera mu gitondo kugera nimugoroba hanyuma barangishe ahobagurira amashapure, barangishe ahobagurira amafoto ya Bikira Mariya", bati"esemamaiyoRadiyo bizagenda gute"? (arasetse) mazererondakeka yukosinzi ibyoibyoizakora ariko.., muby’ukuri ucishije mu kuri, MUKEBAMUKEBAazagerageza gukorank’ukoabandibakorakukobirumvikana ufiteradiyo ukanyuzamoka Mitingi,kaba aka MDR POWER,cyangwaMDR RUKOKOMAbirumvikana ko kahira kandiabantu bakakumva, nyumakandibirumvikana yuko.., uwagiye arebanezayagiye abona yukoabanyakiliziya abanyamadini eh?Politike ntabwo yagiye ibacika ku buryo rero.., birumvikana yukoya matangazo duhitisha hanoyi abo bamagana cyangwa abobagirainamamu mashyaka, birumvikana ko kwaMUKEBA ahoi Kabgayi ha azajya ahanyura ndetse n’ibindi n’ibindi kukoma... muriikigihe.., ibintu byosenipolitike, kukobirumvikana ntiwakwirirwa uranga ahoamashapule azagurirwa ngowirirwa urangaaho bazagurira amashusho ya BikiraMariya, hanyuma noneho ushyiremo misaburimunsintabwo.., birumvikana yukoabakumva bababakecyanecyaneko u Rwandarugizwe n’abapagani mirongo itandatu ku ijana,ubworerourumvako hanyuma hari n’Abayisilamu harin’Abaporoso harin’iki, urumva reroyuko(arasetse) kwaMUKEBA hazakora nk’abandi kugira ngonyine.., nabobabagende iruhande, birumvikana ka politike ntikazaburamo. Uwo reroni igisubizo nahagaabambajije bati"esekwaMUKEBAbazakora bate"?Ndumvaad uko bazakora nahoubundi barataka kure. Evéché muriEvéché reroy’iKabgayi nk’uko abakozi bahobabitugezaho, ngontakigenda kandi byose bitewengo no na PadiriSylvestre... NDABERETSE, PadiriSylvestre NDABERETSE akabaari Econome wa diocèse ngoakabaariimpunzi yaturutse i Burundi, hanyuma reroabantu baravuga bati "Banyamakuru rwoseturatakamba, dorenk’ubungubumu isarumara, muriimprimerie, muri éconamat, mu igaraje hosehoseububararira ayokwarika", bati"rwose tu ubungubuhamaze kuba K0141812 abashomeri barenga magana atanukandiuwomugabo yaraje avugangoabakozi ni benshi, hanyuma nonedorengo yabashimbuje ben~wabo,ngo noneyabashimbuje benewaboabandiabagira abashomeri ngo.., ubworerongo.., rwose ngoniigitangaza muriEv6ché, yayaya... ! Mbega mbega! Harin’ibindi byinshi bagenda bavuga, bagenda bavugaarikokuberako ubwoPadirinyine tutarabonana, ntitwamuvu ntitwavuga ibintu uh,ntitwamuvugira ibintu kwabaariukumuharabika ariko reroibiriho biravugwa ndakeka yuko(arasetse) yayaya.., ni igitangaza ayamakuru nimenshi, amakuru ni menshikuriuwo Mupadiri ntabwotwayavuga gusatwebw¢icyotwasabani uko yakwikosora akagerageza kubana n’abantu bailkumwe, akagerageza kubana n’abantu bailkumwe akikosora bakabana nezanahoubundi.., byaba ailakaga ntayayaya... Andimakurureroakom¢jekutugeraho, akomej¢ kutugeraho amakuru yerek¢y¢ Directeur wa IMPRIMERIE SCOLAIRE BwanaSINIBAGIWE Stanislas, BwanaSti SINIBAGIWE reroStanislas bashakaga ngo TWAGIRAMUNGU Fawusitini atsimbarayeho ngo kugira ngo azagire Ministre, eh ariko umenya ariko.., byaravuzwe yukoyashakaga kumugira Ministre ha...twamenye yukoibintu byinshi byinshi cyane bigenda bimuvugwaho, byinshi kandi by’ukuri birimumadosiye; dotenk’iyi contrat iyicontrat yasinyanye n’Abarundi, yasinyany¢ n’Abarundi, agira ngoabaheamakaye yose, yoseabanab’u Rwandabail kuzigiramo, bailkuzandikamo, nukoMinistreMBANGURA arabihagarika imodoka barimwo bazipakira zigiye kugenda, iyocontrat yariyarayisinyanye n’Abamndi ngobumvikanye ahamu gihugu n’ikindi, eh ngobumvikana gusagusanta.., ma kuntu biboneka muricontrat kobumvikanye, byadmo nyine amafifiko iyodocument nayoirahad, yaya ya... doreindidocument na none yagiyeagirana na...na KAREKEZI, KAREKEZI akaba ’ay masezerano ailumucuruzi uwoKAREKEZI reroyasigayemo Letamiliyoni cumin’esheshatu eh,ni umucuruzi ukomeye w’Inkotanyi kabombo, hanyuma na ndetse ubuntabamu Rwanda miliyoni cumin’esheshatu rerozoseyarazijyanye, yarazijyanye kandiabyumvikanyeho.., na Directeur wa IMPR/MERIE SCOLAIRE, ah...ahubwo birukana Umudage wariumazekubivumbura nonereroibyobintu.., ni akumiro, ayomafaranga mih’yoni cumiesheshatu azanhwa na nde9Azarihwa se na NTIBAna ni... SINIBAGIWE Stanislas AliasGISUNZU? Azarihwa se na nde mwo kagiraImanamwe?Umuntu ufite i inzuinzueh iwabo akodesha n’Inkotanyi (arasetse) niakumiro, akabayarahajyanye groupe Cassette N° 0342transcrite parMB. K0141813 groupe électrogène ni icyuma gicana amashanyarazi cyomuriIMPRIMERIE cyarikigenewe IMPRIMERIE murumva yukoariakumiro, n’ibindi byinshi byinshi dosiye y’uyu mugabo rwose ya... irareshya n’igisunzu cyeuhuhu! Ninini cyane, ninini cyane hinga tuyikorakoranye hanyuma murebe abantu birukanka barwanira kuyobora ikigihugu, yukobabaharimo inyungu zabozihishe, inyungu zabo zihishe ariko inyinshi ziri kumafaranga, ziri kumafaranga, (arasetse) hari umuntu wambwiraga mukanya ati"abanm, abantu bahungiye mumashyaka ngoha... yaoposition ngoibisambo nibisigaye muriMRNDnukoubundi akikubita muriMI)R,yabona bazamumenya akajya muriMDRntazi yabona bazamumenya akasimbukira muriPSD,ubwoni ukongoarahunga, ngoarahunga.., ngoiki ariko rerobamenye yukoumuntu ahunga ikimwirukaho ntahunga ikimwirukamo, ayayaya yayal Abarerobibye amafaranga barirukanka ngobabehaMinistre babone zaamnistie ngobabasonere, ntibizashoboka a... ! habail mukagabail mukaga gakomeye, kuburyo reromurebe abantu bihutira kutuyobora ni abantu bishwe n’amadeni, niabantu bishwe n’amadeni; ibyorerobitumye nshaka kuvuga ibyobitaubuzima privée bw’abantu bariya batuyobora bohejuru nababwiye yukotwebwe Abanyamakuru tuzajya tubushotoraho buke, kukohariibintu byokubuzima privée by’umuntu wo hejuru cyane bishobora kubangamira rubanda ubworerougasanga nibaumuntu yariigisambo kera, yarafungaga kacecyangwa agakora mu mifuka cyangwa se umuntu w’umugabo, cyangwa umuntu wesemurirusange babara ibyoyakoze ntabwo babara ibyoazakora, ubworeronibamu buzima waritwaye nabiubawaritwaye nabintabwo wavuga ngotuzabara kerangoni wabaMinistre ngoko uzikosora, ntibishoboka mwumvise mu Bwongereza yukoumugabo, Umuministre w’ingabo yareguye, yareguye kubera ko ah... Abanyamakuru barashotoye basanga yarigeze gusambanya umugore w’umuko w’uw’uwo yakoreshaga uh,basanga yariyaramugize ihabara ad inshorekel Umenya uwabirukana mu Rwanda yabamara, ha,yabamara benenk’abo! Umenya ha!Arikomu Rwanda kukibategura? (Arasetse) ntibajya begura muRwanda niigitangaza ariko reromwumvise yukoya... muriAmerika hoseabantu nk’abo barikanwa, ehmwumvise konaPerezida waEtats Unis uriho ubuBillCLINTON ha,nawebaiekumubwi kumubwira ko... yariafite aga.., agashoreke, umugore we amurwanaho ati"biramaze ntacyo narabyihanganiye" nukobati"ntacyo, a...ariko mu Bwongereza mwumvise yuko, mbesemu Bwongereza ho bahora begura sinzi impamvu arikorero barabashotora bakabareka. Mazeuwiumuntu wagiye hejuru uharanira kujya hejuru agomba kuba inyangamugayo, noneseailumujura kabuhariwe sebibabyumvikana koiyoailumujura kabuhariwe 16 ~’0i478f4 akabaMinistre, urumva ko abajura bajyabavuga ngoapungonanjye yendanzabaMinistre ngoko uriyase yariumujura ngojyewesi ntibyashoboka? Iba... umuntu.., ha yariumugore agakuramwo inda,akuramwo indayendaaki¢amo umwanaiyo yamutaye mu mu musarani, nyumaagakomera akabanka Ministrekazi cyangwaakabaUmunyamabanga mukuru,ah...icyocyahakigomba kumugendaho, kigombakumugendaho kukoni ubusembwa ubworerouh ubusembwa bugomba kugendakurinyirabwo, niyompamvubiriyamu nama...RUCOGOZA yakoresheje avugango "bashotora ku buzimabw’abantu bakomeye, umuntuukomeye buryaubuzima bwe abantubaba babureba uh,nk’ubu KANTANO agiyeki akinyarira hariya ku muhanda se ni ndewabimenya? Ariko Ministre nakaabantu bamubona ngoahabati"nguriya" eh?Nisindiye hariya i Nyami... josi Nyamirambo nkikubita hasintacyo ariko, arikoMinistre ahasindiye induru zavuga kukorero ntiyavuga ngo"apungonisengereye jyewengoamafaranga yanjye ngondamaze nibanaguye.., ngo apanangoejonzajya mufiMinistère, rekadatUbuzima privée bw"umunye.., bw’umunyapolitike cyane cyaneburarushya. Ubworero.., tuzajya dushotomho n’abandi tubibire kukobitera amatsiko, bitera amatsiko cyane. Ayaya ya yafHingahagati ahonisuhurize umugabo witwaNDAYAMBAJE François akabaail Directeur Adjointmuri"HOTELAKAGERA", uvugaati "ba muratw"u turabumva rwose,turabumva cyane"ati "mukomere Banyamakum ba RTLMmudukura mu gahînda hanoturimu ishyamba mazemukomere cyane".Hinganisuhurize ha none...NDAKWIZERA Boni&ce wo muriwomuriSegiteri Nyakariro Seille Munini ah Konnine... Bicumbi, ah...ti"usuhuze ha Madamen’akana kanjye NDUNGUTSE" mazeah...rerohinganasuhuze ha Caporal HITIMANA, Caporal H/TIMANA urihariya mu ba Jepe(GP)ah...ha Caporal MUSONERA urihariya na we ba Jepe (GP)uh. ’ " bosebo muri EFOTECi Kanombe,mweserero ¯. n’abarimu n’abanmukazl mukomere, mukomere.., mu gihenkibategurira andimaktu-u mu kanya, andimakuru mu kanya mbere yuko.., nitaba Procureur epfomuriParquet, hinga.., mbashyirireho akaziki. (Musique... 4.7) I Kigali ubuni saatatun’iminota.., mirongo itatun’umwe muriStidiyo zacu,mu kanyanari nababwiye iby’iBurundi, narinababwiye iby’iBurundi i Bujumbura, ahavandimwe bacurero b’Abamndi bailmugihîrahîro nabombese urebye Inkotanyi z’iBurundi, Inkotanyi z’iBurundi nazo zikora nk’iz’ino ibintu byose zirabihagarika, ubutegetsi zîkabuharika rebanawe.., bakoze Cassette N° 0342transcrite parMB. ,̄ .° K0141815 Guverinoma... bashyiramwo Abaministre makumyabiri ha barindwi, za Ministères zimweziragongana umweakabaMinistère w’Amaprefegitura, undiakabaMinistère w’Amakomine ukibaza.., nibaumwe kugira ngoajyemu Makomine azajya abanza gusaba uruhusa uwomu Maprefegitura, ugasanga ibintu byose byayoberanye mazererokuvaahoGuverinoma yakagiriyeho ntirakora, n’abakozi naboiyo bakora mu birombesebyabaye nk’ibintu by’ino rwoseni Inzibacyuho iteyeubwoba, iteye ubwoba, iteye ubwoba irimwo ubwicanyi n’ibindi byose. Naweseiyobakora reroiyougize ngoarajya mu biro uretse ko abaanafite n’ubwoba ati"baranyiciramo", arikoUmuhutu iyoahayedossier Umututsi, Umututsi ntayitanga, Umututsi iyoabonye dossier ntayereka Umuhutu, Umuhuikiku buryo ntami (arasetse) urebye irini mbeseni ibintu byacitsemo kabiri, ni nk’ibi by’ino by’amashyaka, by’amashyaka ugenda, wabangourilnterahamwe ukoramu Bakombozi, ntiwazapfa umenye dossier yerekeye amafaranga cyangwa akabanza ugaheba uh,bigafatwa n’Abakombozi gusa,bo muriwaba urimuriPL ukavuga uti"puntabwo" mbesebakagushyira ku ruhande cyangwa se...wabaurimuri PL naweurimu Nterahamwe ntihagire icyoubonaugasanga ibintu birakomeye, mu Nkotanyi ho bizaba ariakandare ntacyo uzajya umenya ntuzajya umenya amafaranga y’imfashanyo yo gutahura impunzi yanyuze ikibyose, nukoukumirwa mbesemu Burundi ibintu birakomeye. Nyumareroejo bundinihoagaku wa gatanu no ku wa gatandatu, baribiteguye Coupd’Etat, Coupd’Etat kuko birumvikana abantu bishe... NDADAYE bisheaba.., mufasha, bosebaracyafiho abateguye Coup d’Etat yo gutsemba abobantu boseb’imitwe yize, baracyariho baridegembya ntawigeze abafata ewe ma n’uwabatonganyije, ba BAGAZA bandeyandebibereye ahobarikorera amanama ukobabishatse ha BIKOMAGU na bande,ku buryoreroah...abarinda ahubwoabarindaga.., hariuwanshekeje ambwira ati"abarindaga Perezida NDADAYE Nyakwigendera, nibobanarinda ba Sipriyani, nibo barinda.., ba Sylvestre NTIBANTUNGANYA", ati "youburerourumva ko bafinzwe se ha nde"? Bati... "bashatse ku babwiye babwiye... BIKOMAGU batidushake abandiBIKOMAGU aranga ngo n’abo ntacyo babaye ngobatite inkoho, nukononeho ibintu birayoberana hanyuma noneho ejobundi reromwumvise ibyabaye mu Kamenge, ahoabasidkare biroshye mu baturage bavuga ngobarasaka intwaro abaturage bakabica bakabarangiza. Abantu magana abiri boseburyamuriQuartier ni benshi kandibakomeye bakomakomeye eh birumvikana ko ad akumiro, hanyuma noneho, noneho Inkotanyi z’iBurundi na nonemuri.., mu ijoro ryoku wagatanu no ku wagatandatu baribiteguye ko zikora Coupd’Etatzikagandagura babandi basigaye, nibwobyatumye reroabantubosebakomeye mu ..... K0147816 Burundi bagerageza guhunga, mumijyi y’ino reroabenshi nihobahungiye birumvikana kukonta kuntu abobavandimwe twabahungishije kuvakerantakuntu rerohanonetutabakira. Ubworero naragiye mu maHoteli ngenda buhoro buhoro eh hosemu nzira n’uko nzakukubitana n’Umurudi umwewariwahunze muriabongabo, hanyuma mubaza iby’i Burundi ko bizatungana kobizagenda nonendagira ngouwoMurundi utarashatse kwivuga izina avugaatiahubwo n’ubwo mu ijwi yaravugaga aU"nibarimenya bazanshaka", ati"ariko rero.., sinabura kuvuga iby’i Burundi kuko biteye agahinda", ati"hinga mbivuge" ati"ariko sinivuga izina". Nanjye izina sinshatse kuribabwira gusa mwumve ibitekerezo by’uwo mugabo. Ehnandabona... (arakoroye) ndabona.., ibyo aribyo byose.., uriUmurundi, ehnagira ngonkubaze... ko... ejobundi muKamenge aba.., abasirikare bateye ahongaho muriakoga¢eko muKamenge bavuga yuko ba... bashakamwi imbunda, hanyuma...oh.., ih... izombunda koko zirahari? ORATEUR: Nonidentifié Muvy’ukuri mushingantahe ivyobintu twese twaraduta vyaradutangaje jewe (inaudible) mumuradiyo ahondimubuhungiro, ariko umuntu yumva batubwira bavuga yukongoariabasoda b’iBurundi bariko barashaka izombunda, kandi abasoda b’iBurundi Abarundi bosen’Amakungu n’ibihugu bidukikije bizwi neza koaribobafise inkoho bashusha amaraso, arinazo zishe n’Umukuru w’igihugu Nyakubahwa Melchior NDADAYE ivyotu bakaba baziko twesetubivye, kandibakabirengako ntibabanze ngobiyumvire igituma Abanyagihugu ivyobintu vyababaje bigatuma biyumvira ko barondera ibihoho. Njewe ku bwanje hohoniyumvira ko nyankoho atazo balise abobanyagihugu bozikura hehe? Eh,boziizonkoho bazikuye hehe? Ahubwo ngira ngojewenibaza yukoabobantu ariivyo barose bikurikiranyeje n’ibintu bibi bagize bagaca bibaze ati"abantu bashobora kurondera inkwaro zokutugwanya". Mugabo muvy’ukuri jeweukondabibona nibwira koaran’izo bafise kuko ntabozivana he?Bozikura hehe? Ahubwo abobariko barahi (inaudible) bazabishaka, ni bi... nibagarure agatima bibuke barabe yukoizobafise arizo zasheshe amaraso kandi ivyobizwi n’isi n’amakungu n’Abarurundi boseb’Abanyagihugu. ORATEUR:HABIMANdKantano Eh uvuzeibyogusesa amaraso kokondibuka, eh...igiheNyakwigendera Melchior NDADAYE Cassette N*0342transcrîte parMB. ]9 K9T4T~~? yapfaga n’abandi baribamwungin]e, ha.riabanm b’abasirikare bakomeye bashyizwe mu majwi bavuga bati"ababantubishe bariya bantu" noneububaridegembya ibyongibyo ubibona ute? ORATEUR: Non identifié Ahubwo twesebiratangaje, urumva bamaze kubivuga uko abantu b’abakuru bakuru mu nzegozo hejuru zo mu gisoda, urazibagwabaguma ba ha bavugana n’abantu homuriLetabakavuga ngo,ngo "niagace k’abantu’. Mugabo je kubwanje ukondabibona, akogaceni kubera ikiabobakuru batwara igisirikare batokarondera ngobakerekane bati"ngaka a abasoda bizabatashushe amaraso ni aba, abayasheshe ni aba",kubera ntamuntun’umwe ushaka kugirirwa ankete ngoamenye abadbasohotse gukora icokibin’abandi baribasigaye mu makambi, atariabantu nyenebatwara ayomakambi. Urumva ko ça veutdireko bavuga ngonagangona ngona ngoni agacek’abantu, agacek’abantu barakazi? Barangoabanabobaibigaba woweufisemu umutuzo weweurashobora kumenya abana b’ibigabauti "umwanaad aha amezeul~ uku n’ukuamezeuku,amezeuku harihoumwana agamburukira hariho ugaba, noneurumva abobakuru b’igisifikare bailbabaragijwe nibobaziiyo problème akogacetwetu Abanyagihugu bakwifuza yukobokerekana, tukabona abasoda bezaaho basigaye ba babaye honnêtes n’abandi bagararije tukamenya abo adbokukonibobabazi nibo babatwara. ORA TEUR: HAB1MANA Kantano Aha... hanonese...buriya urabona abagizi banabikugira ngobazafatwe urabona bazafatwa na nde bizagenda gute? ORAIEUR:Nonidentifié Kugira bazofa kugira bafatwe, amategeko niyoakwiye kuyakurikirana akabafata kubera bakoze ikibi kandi icokibibosebabatubwira koejokoharashe abasirikare hatarashe abasivile, ntivyumvikana n’ukuntu bavuga ngoinzungoinkoho zirondegwe mu Banyagihugu kandiaribobalise izasheshe amaraso ivyonabikubwiye ugitangura kumbaza, ntivyumvikana eh? HABIMANA Kantano Nonese...urabona.., ejobundi hagiyeho Guverinoma... igizwe n’Abaministre hafimakumyabiri na barindwi, eh kandimuriaboBaministre harimo.., abagiye bapfakazwa n’abobagizi banabi, urumva sebazakora umutima urihamwe cyane cyanebabona abaabishe abababanjirije, bararafashwe urabana bazakora kokoakazibashyitsa umutima hamwe? 20 ORATEUR: ~Vo.~««,,t~a~ K 014 I 818 Ivyobirumvikana kukourumvaaba abaaba abakoze ibibimuribabandi nyenenibobasubira kuyivugira kandiivyobidashoboka, bailkubanza ubwambere bakabanza bakaringaniza iyoproblome bakerekana ahobo yuribakamenya n’abagize nabi,muriicyogiheamategeko y’igihugu agakora abakoze ikibibagahanwa, abatakoze ikibibakabandanya gukorera igihugu nk’uko baribasanzwe. Nahoubundi bwobwo,n’ahobyon’ahaizoGuverinoma zizohaba ntizizoshobora gukora nezakandi abicanyi basheshe amaraso y’abana b’abantu bagumabatembera Abanyagihugu baziko aribo bayasheshe kandibakaguma bakorana mu bintu, kandiAbanyagihugu barabahakanye batiabobantu ntitubizigiye kubera baraduhemukiye. ORA TEUR." HABIMANAKantano Uh,hanyuma yenda.., akabazo gatonarangirizaho urabona imibanire y’Abahutu n’Abatutsi mu Burundi eh... muminsi iriimbere izagenda ite? ORATEUR..HABIMANAKantano Mushingantahe, njeweimyakandahamaze nkuranciyeubwenge mbonaail ibintubigenda, iyo mibanire îzogora badakoze batabatafashe igicutu c’ubwoko bobanze bagihagarike hajeho igihu soda c’igihugu. Igisoda c’igihugu kizoba kimeze gute?Kizoba kirimo Umututsi, Umuhutu, Umutwaabantu bosebisante yukoboseailAbanyagihugu. Arikoubuimbobo zoseeheh eh... (inaudible) z’igihugu urumva ni ic’ubwoko, niic’ubwoko kicaigihugu kitirigwa ibihugu ariko kicwa igihugu niic’ubwoko. Urumvamuriico gihebatabanje ngo bakureiyo problème, ico gisobwe bagisubiremo neza bakiyunganize kijemwo abantu boseubwoko bwoseburimu Barundi, umuntu weseyisanka arije gukora ikibazo yumveniyakimenya ko ategetswe kujamwo aticura ngondahogwa ukondiuyun’uyu n’uyu, ariubwoko butatu butuye muriicogihugu bosebagomba kwinjira mu gisoda bakemegwa bose,niivyaramuka habaye ayomategeko Abatutsi bakayakurikiza, Abahutu bakayubaha, Abatwa bakayubaha mbese bakamenya yukoikiremwa muntuariikintu gifise igiciro, umuntu atokunigwa ku kintuahoweubwoko yokomigwa ku kintukubera amakosa y’iweyagirijwe kanaka ku gatwek’iwe batozira ubwoko, lyomibanire yabontizoshoboka ha gatoyi hatabaye igisoda c’igihugu, icogisoda c’ubwoko kidahagaritswe ngohajeho igisoda c’igihugu kirimwo ubwoko bwosebutuye muriico Cassette Ne 0342transcrite parMB. 21 gihugu ukoariubwoko butatu. (Inaudible) K0141819 ORATEUR: HABIMANA Kantano Yegoigisoda cy’ubwoko nonese kizahagarikwa na nde? ORA TEUR: HABIMANAKantano Kizohagarikwa na nde? Bazokiga bigehamwebarabire hamweukobatuye mu Burundi ad ubwoko butatu, atariukonaho inkoho zaraguzwe ni iz’igihugu, nibaje inamazihagarikwe zoseukuntu zamazisesa amaraso mu myaka yosemirongo itatu, izonyenekandiabanyagihugu nibobazigura bakazigura mu nguvu zabo zikava mu mikori barishe, amakore barishe mu gihugu niyozigura niyaniyoagugwa ivyobihoho kandi zikongera zikagaruka zikabarasa kandi aribo baziguze. ORATEUR; HABIMANA Kantano Ku byerekeye.., na nonengarutse gatoku mibanire y’amoko ubungububiragaragara yukomu gi mu... mu mujyiwa Bujumbura hariuturere Abatutsi bimutsemo burundu, ahandi Abahutu ahobari batuye bakimuka burundu bagasanga abandi Bahutu ha murumva.., ibyobizagarukira hehena ni nka apartheïde yomuriAfurika y’epfo? ORA TEUR:Nonidento-ïé Uravyumva ivyoni ukobimeze urumva ni bwabubibw’abantu bagituyemwo. Ubwobaticaye hamwe ngobabanze banuruso urauraziprblème abanyagihugu baribitoreye ba demokrasi yaraje habura abitorera ababategeka noneho haboneka agatsiko k’abantu ko kubasenya, barasambura ivyabo bashaka gusambura demokrasi. Muriicogihentivyaboroheye kugira ngobayisambure vy’ukuri bayinononsore. Mugabo i izoizoproblème zosezakurikiwe n’ivyo vy’uko habaho abantu bafise imvu nyunshi bi bi bi ba barimu gisoda c’ubwoko, bakaba baziyukobashobora kuryamira abobantu uburyo bwosebakabahonyora guhera ku wa mberegushika ku wa nyuma. Nahoubundi, icoiyoniyo problème urumva yashitumyeigihigu cikaki kicamu kaga,izonguvuc’igisoda c’ubwoko nico gituma bakwiye kujahasiicogisoda bakaraba ingeni bagihagarika bagaca bagira igisoda c’igihugu doncigisoda c’igihugu cirimwo abantu boseAbahutu n’Abatutsi, bakumvikana ku vyerekeye ivy’u vy’ukubahiriza agateka k’ikiremwa muntuhanyuma mu gihebagakoresha ikibazo nezaumuntu uwo afiwe wese,akimenya ad Umuhutu akinjira ailUmututsi, ariUmutwa kukon’ahoumuntu azokoresha ubuamayeri y’ubu yoseayoad yo,uhaahoabantu bageze ubuahangira ngondashaka kubonera uyu ~:,..3 74!~?0 ntakijemo ntagire gute, bizosiba iminsi ibiri itatu muminsi inebazomenya yukoicokintu cyabayemwo akarengane. ORA TEUR:HABIM_,4NA Kantano Eh ndakeka yuko.., ndumva hariikindi wumva.., wavuga ku byerekeye ibibera iwanyu mu Burundi? ORATEUR: Non identifiç Vraiment iconovuga umuntu weseahoail,birababaje kubona abantu biyumvira kupoteza ubuzima bw’umuntu nk’upoteza ubuzima bw’urunyegeri ivyoico nobivuga ko, ni uko Abarundi bose bokwisubirako bakibuka bakigarura bakaraba bakamenya yukogusesa amaraso y’umwana w’umuntu, umwana w’umuntu utaziingene wajawamubonye nk’uko wibonye, ukamenya yukobibabaza nkomu gihevyoshika bariko basesa ay’iwawe nawe,ahohantubakigarura bakaraba bakagendera mu kuri n’ubutungane ivyobintu bakihanura. ORATEUR: HABIMANA Kantano Murakoze. Ku Mulindiejo ku Mulindihabereye inama,habereye inamayahujeChaimanKANYARENGWE Vice-Président wa mbere.., wa FPR,Vice-Président wa kabiri wa FPR,iyonamakandiyariirimo Ambassadeur wa Tanzaniya mu Rwanda, harina...Ministre w’Ububanyi n’amahanga wa Tanzaniya. Harindetse.., na...eh n’uriya mu Colonel, uriyamu Colonel w’Umuganga ba...FPRyashinze Ministère y’Ubuzima mu Nzibacyuho yaguye, mu Nzibacyuho yaguye izabairimona FPR. Imigambi reroyahacuriwe ntabwo turayimenya ariko.., nituyimenya turayibagezaho. Indinkuruinama, inamayariyatumijwe na Perezida w’Interahamwe mu rwegorw’igihugu, yayobowe na Perezida wa MRNDmuriKomine Kicukiro, ku wa gatandatu tariki ya cumin’ebyiri werurwe igihumvi kimwemagana cyenda na kane,kuriZINIYA kuvasaacyenda kugeza saakumin’ebyiri n’igice. Iyonamayahuje ababakmikira, hariabashinzwe inzego z’ishyaka za MRNDkuvamuriSelile kugeza muriKomine, hariabagize Komite y’Interahamwe muriPerefegitura y’umujyi waKigali, hari Abayobozi b’Interahamwe bo muriSegiteri zigize Komine Kicukiro, hariInterahamwe zosezo muri Komine Kicukiro, harindetse ha Commandat wa Brigade ya Kicukiro. Cassette N° 0342transcrire parMB. 23 Ingingo... yariku murongo w’ibyigwa yariimweçni...kubumbatira umutekano batungira agatold ubutegetsi abagizi ba nabiaboaribo bose. Nyumay’ibitekerezo byatanzwe n’abantu banyuranye barimo Commandat wa Brigade ya Kicukiro, hatanzwe ibyemezo n’ibyifuzo bikurikira. !¢yambere, abarimu namabamaganye abagizi ba nabiaho bavabakagera, bifuza ko inzego zishinzwe umutekano n’iperereza zarushaho gukora akazi zishinzwe zitahura hakiri kareabagizi ba nabibataragera ku mugambi wabomubi. Ieyakabiri, abarimu namabifuje ko Interahamwe n’abarwanashyaka barushaho kungaubumwe, bagafatanyiriza hamwemu gutahura abagizi ba nabiaboaribo bose. !g,v.a.gatatu, abarimu namabongeye kwemeza ko umurwanashyaka cyangwa Interahamwe b’ukuri, ari abubahirizaintegoz’ishyakaMRND ari zo UBUMWE,AMAHORON’AMAJYAMBERE. Udashoboye kubyubahiriza bifuje ko yasezera cyangwa yasezererwa muriMRND. Iey_akane,abarimu namabifuje ko Interahamwe zigomba kurangwa n’ikinyabupfura, zubaha uwo ariweweseyabaumutegetsi, uwobadahuje ibitekerezo n’abandi bose. Ieyagatanu, abarimu namabifuje ko abakuru b’amadini batoza bamwemu bantubabobavanga politike n’ijambo ry’Imana, bikababigaragarira ku Mupadiri wa Paruwasi Kicukiro witwa "PITORES" uvangura abakristu ashingiye ku mokoyabo,akabaatanatinya guhora asebya Umukuru w’igihugu Nyakuhwa... HABYARIMANA Juvénal Président wa Repubulika. Ibyobyoseakabikorera mu Kiliziya imbere y’abakristu. ~, ndagisubiramo, abarimu namabifujeko Abakurub’amadini batozabamwemu bantu babobavanga politike n’ijambo ry’Imana, bikaba.., bigaragarira ku Mupadiri wa Paruwasi Kicukiro witwa ... Findelacassette.
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