BSA Banter July 2011 - BSA MCC of NSW Website

The Journal of the BSA Motorcycle
Club of NSW Inc
The
BSA Banter
Meetings 8pm
1st Thursday of each
month at the Regents
Park Bowling Club
Vol 31 #3
June-July 2011
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FROM THE SHED
The August Club meeting on the 4th will, as foreshadowed,
be the 2011 AGM. The theme of this AGM is “Easing the
Secretary’s Burden” and it is hoped some keen members will
nominate to take on some of the hats Trevor presently wears.
We are also using the AGM (if we have enough response) to
raffle a credit letter from Peter Scott Motorcycles (the
magneto man at Seven Hills - excellent workmanship) for
$100 credit towards any maggy rebuild (labour not parts).
This award originates from the National Rally but was
overlooked at the time. The credit expires 25 December
2011. Please email your silent request to be included in the
draw to Trevor or me (addresses below). This is a freebie
raffle, so just your name and contact.
There has also been much work and club discussion to
update the ride plate rules, as the RTA has asked all historic
clubs to submit new versions. See last Banter for more info.
The new rules will be discussed again at the AGM and the
draft put on the BSA NSW website.
Following the AGM we will have several new
vehicle examiners in the Club so Roy Breyley’s
(South Coast member) suggested safety check
rules for veteran, vintage and classic
motorcycles will also be posted on the website.
On the bike side, the Club has kept its ride program up, with
a number of new riders joining the pack. Several members
are putting together a draft of an annual ride program based
on previous years and timing of various motorcycling events
etc. This should be out in the next few months.
Lastly, the “Ailing A65” has revived herself and now fires on
both pots. This bike has not run in anger for about 18 months
and suffered lack of spark on the left pot. Discussion on this
subject and the relative merits of the various electronic
ignition systems has prompted me to knock up an article for
the next issue. Needless to say, the hassles taught me a little
about how these systems work, or not, as happened.
The Ed.
Club Officials & Contact Details
Position
Name
Contact Details
President
Peter W
0432 322 980 [email protected]
Vice Presidents
Denis
4421 7857
Terry
0407 708 925
Brian
9597 1827
[email protected]
Ken
0438 320 992
Secretary (incl Permits)
Trevor
0408 282 243 [email protected]
Assistant Secretaries
Tony (Nowra)
[email protected]
Terry (Newcastle)
0407 708 925
(Membership)
John
0408 640 542 [email protected]
Treasurer
Victor
0408 286 434 [email protected]
Editor
John
0408 640 542 [email protected]
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/bsa_banter
Public Officer
VACANT
Club Captain
Victor
0408 286 434 [email protected]
Assistant Club Captain
Peter H
0410 490 954 [email protected]
Club Motorcycle Registrars
Victor
0408 286 434 [email protected]
Dave C
0407 490 677 [email protected]
Webmaster
Paul A
0411 596 687 [email protected]
Peter H
0410 490 954 [email protected]
Terry
0407 708 925
Denis
4421 7857
Neil
[email protected]
www.bsansw.org.au
[email protected]
Mail
Sydney - P.O. Box 4023 Homebush South 2140
Nowra/Shoalhaven - P.O. Box 3323 North Nowra 2541
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BSA M.C.C of NSW MEETINGS
Minutes of the General Meeting
2 June, 2011
Attendance
The meeting opened at 8:30 pm, with Ken in
the chair and the following members &
guests present: Shane Y, Ray, Craig, Neil,
Paul, Jim, Joe, John, Eddie, Jim, Mebbo,
Brian, David, Shane, Victor,Peter, Ken,
Trevor.
Apologies were received & accepted from:
Terry, Conrad, George, Craig.
Minutes
The minutes from were read with the following
outstanding: Peter to send Neil parts books,
Shane to validate plate email address.
Correspondence
Mail
1) N. Sydney Inst TAFE, notice of upcoming
courses for motorcycles
2) Highland Steam & Vintage Fair, update &
invite for next year.
3) Parramedica services
4) Mac Towns, invitation to weekend ride July
30 & 31
Email
1) www.greghurstenterprises.com.au promo
for Ride radio show 2CCR FM 10pm Thurs
2) Kyogle Dirt bike club. Government antimotorcycle noise legislation
3) Bryan, Membership resignation
4) Paul Abdilla ride plate report
5) George, meeting apology
Matters Arising from Correspondence
1) Accept invitation from Mac Towns
General Business
1) Victor reported we currently have $5200
2) Jim noted that he thought Cowra would be
a good site for the rally. Shane noted that we
should be going south but Cowra would be a
good idea for the following.
3) Rides:
July 10 Patonga, BP Asquith 9am
July 16 Rubies, Watertower @ 9am,
Heathcote @ 9-30am
Aug 14 Berowra, Galston, BP Asqutih 9 am
Aug 27 Mt Irvine, Kellyville Maccas @ 9am
4) Shane suggested that the joining details for
the Yahoo group be added to the main web
Site.
Magazines
Classic Clatter May, Star May, Mac Towns
April.
Meeting closed at 9:44pm
Minutes of the General Meeting
7 July 2011
Attendance
The meeting opened at 8.30 pm, with Ken in
the chair and 19 members & guests present:
John B, Joe W, Adrian C, Mark A, Ray W, Jim
W, Brian M, Shane P, Craig G, David C, Neil
P, Paul A, Victor T, John M, Peter W, Trevor
H, George G, Doug M.
Apologies were received & accepted from:
Jim, Conrad, Peter H, Terry, Doug, Eddie &
Rob.
Minutes
The minutes from were read with the following
outstanding: Nil
Correspondence
Mail
1) RACV, invite to MotorClassica Concours,
October 21-22
2) CEMCC Illawarra invitation to 24th Annual
tour, August 13 &14 Warilla
3) AJS & Matchless Jampot Rally invitation,
28-30 October
4) Returned nomination forms from Conrad,
Peter H, Dennis, Antony
5) Kiama Vintage & Classic Rally invitation,
September 25th
Email
1) [email protected] (2 emails)
promo & seeking material to publish
2) Geoff [email protected] resignation
from club (bought a Harley, sold the A65)
3) Phillip [email protected] Bought
Geoff’s bike, seeks history & end feed info
4) Jowill [email protected] promo for very
small m/c battery
5) ben [email protected] more
info re council regulation changes
6) Paul [email protected] ride
report
Brought to you by
Secretary Trevor
7) Craig [email protected] Info re the
bushes for his girders.
8) Mark W, change of address
9) Tony [email protected] thanks for
info & selling his Bantam on ebay
10) Arish [email protected] looking for
54 A7 SS parts ?
11) James [email protected]
promo for sporting goods (tie downs)
12) Sharryn, thank you & note she has decided
to keep Andy’s A10
13) [email protected] seeks support
of lane splitting law change in Vic
14) [email protected] Promo & note the
MMRDA is now 5 years old (History)
15) MNSW
a) Parramatta Speedway 17 Sept,
b) suspended riders,
c) FIM Womens training camp July 16-18
d) training seminar list
Matters Arising from Correspondence
1) Accept invitations from CEMCC & AJS/
Matchless.
General Business
1) Victor noted that we had approx $5600.
2) Victor suggested that we look at a site at
Berry for our rally. He has asked Dennis to do
a reco.
3) Trevor advised that Jim Ager has had a
prang & is currently in Wollongong hospital
4) John asked about a BSA day for 2011 .
Trevor to check which club should host it.
Magazines
BSA Burble May, Newcastle C B June, Star
July, Mac Towns June, Rocket June + July
Meeting closed at 9:21pm
Club T-shirts available!
Deep green with yellow Club logo (sizes S-4XL)
$10 - financial members
$15 - non members
$6 - postage
Contact Hon Sec at [email protected]
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New (old) Product!!
So give your bike its missing lift handle and enjoy
putting it on the centre stand again!
Ace Classics now has available a lift handle to suit
Cost to club members is $59full size BSA plunger models. This is a correct
reproduction for A7 & A10, B series (B31, 33 etc) and
Contact Alan at Ace Classics, 0352 648272 or
M series (M20, 21 etc)
0418350350
Email [email protected]
After trying to locate one for a restoration at Ace
Classics (Australia) www.aceclassics.com.au,
Victorian BSA Club member Alan Howlett found that
these items were rarer than hen’s teeth and so
decided to manufacture one. These are seriously
tricky and were going to involve a lot of work so why
not do it right and do a production run.
Alan manufactured them here (yes, we can still do
that in Australia) and has gone to a lot of effort to
ensure they are correct reproductions in every way.
The tubing is original diameter and even the wall
thickness as per original as is every bend, kink and
pressing. The finish is bare metal so they can be
painted to match your bike.
Alan’s only done a small run of these and the jigs
have been recycled so when they’re gone that’s it.
95-97 Princes Hwy
St Peters NSW 2044
T: (02) 9557 7234
E: [email protected]
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Victor’s Run Page
Cottage Point Run, 21 May, 2011
Today, 11 people on 9 bikes (6 of
which were BSAs) got together
and met at the St Ives showground
for a nice ride down to Cottage
Point where we stopped for coffee
and something to eat. Joe and
Jane rode their Fat Boy, Mark and
Donna on their '67 Lightning, Mark
on his XS650, Ray on his Bonnie,
and Victor, Neil, Brian, Shane, and
myself on our mighty BEEZAS!
The food and drinks were nice,
just a bit pricey, but sitting out on
their sun deck overlooking the
beautiful water and surroundings
made it worth it. We waited there
for Ray to catch up with us, (he
arrived with a police escort) then
headed off for Palm Beach, via
Church Point. We arrived at Palm
Beach at about midday, picked a
nice cafe, and settled in for
another coffee and a chat. We
stayed there for an hour or so and
then headed off for home. It was
truly a great day for a ride, not cold
but not hot enough to work up a
sweat either. There were no break
downs or any other misshaps. Our
next posted ride is the night ride on
the 12th of June (sunday
night of the Queens Birthday
weekend) The last night ride was
on a long weekend Sunday night
and the traffic was very light. Let's
try to get a good roll up to this ride,
it's only a short one, La Perouse to
Woolloomooloo via the eastern
beaches. See you there!
Paul A
Patonga Run, 10 July, 2011
Unfortunately, I slept in this
morning, so I arrived at Asquith
about 9:15 not really expecting to
see anyone. Luckily for me, the
cold weather had slowed everyone
down and so I was relieved to see
John B on his Triumph and David
on his 55 Gold Star 350cc single
waiting at the servo. With my
Lightning, it was an all-British turnup for a change ;-) Not long after,
as we discussed the route for the
ride, Carl turned up on his Yamaha
trail bike. So the four of us headed
off around 9:20. The old Pacific
Highway is always a great ride and
this morning was no exception;
beautiful sky, not too cold and light
traffic. We lost touch with Carl
somewhere around Pie in the Sky
and so only three of us arrived at
the Road Warrior. It turned out that
Carl was hoping to find a lunch box
he had lost on an earlier ride and
there may have been some
confusion about we here we were
stopping. We enjoyed our coffees
and discussed possible routes to
Patonga when Mark and Donna
turned up on Mark's Lightning
having ridden from their home at
Umina - a great effort considering
our destination is just minutes from
their home. We waited a little
longer for Carl but eventually the
four bikes headed off for West
Gosford and then along Brisbane
Water Drive to Woy Woy. Leaving
West Gosford, we got caught up in
some weekend road works but
with David leading the way we
were able to bypass the bulk of the
traffic and make our way on to
the pretty coastal road. Having
negotiated the streets of Woy Woy
and Umina we found ourselves on
the deceptively rough road to
Patonga. Breath-taking views
back to Woy Woy were soon lost
but it wasn't long until we began to
get glimpses of the small township
as we began the descent to
Patonga. We grabbed some chips
etc from the local fish and chippery
and sought some shelter from the
wind in the pavillion at the park
next door. Mark and Donna's son
joined us for lunch as we enjoyed
the view of Brisk Bay, which
seemed aptly named. We were
ready now to head back. Mark and
Donna were going straight back to
Umina so we parted ways as
we turned off to Woy Woy and
then off along Woy Woy road to
Kariong. We opted once again for
the old Pacific Highway and it
wasn't long before we were at Pie
In The Sky for some refreshment
and a chat. This was a great ride
with the weather about as good as
it gets for winter. Hope to see you
on the next ride.
Shane Y
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CLUB
RUNS
2011 Program
14 August
Berowra-Arcadia-Fagan Park, Velo Owners Club Day, meet Asquith BP 9am
27 August
Mt Irvine, meet Kellyville Maccas 9am
Other Events of Interest
11 September
Macquarie Towns Show, Windsor
25 September
CEMCC Show, Engadine
(See also Just Bikes, NOC, CEMCC etc websites)
Swaps
Cessnock
Maitland
Canberra
6-7 August
9 October
30 October
Don’t forget the regular 3rd Saturday Run (Call Victor)
Any queries on runs, please call the Club Captain, Victor, on 0408 286 434
CLUB REGALIA
The Club provides personal club
name tags to members at a
nominal cost. The example
shows the club badge mounted
on a dark green background. The
tag is fixed by a pin attachment
on the back. If you would like
your personal name tag, please
send $7 and your preferred name
posting to the Club PO Box on
page 2.
Badges alone are $5, patches $2
and bumper stickers $1. Contact
Secretary or Editor.
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It’s getting dirty in Kyogle
We publish the following letter from the Kyogle Dirt Bike Club without comment, other than Peter
W, Acting Prez, has made further investigations and there may be “local issues” involved.
I am writing on behalf of Kyogle Dirt bike Club (KDBC) to inform you that there is a well funded anti
motorcycle group attempting to have all motorcycles banned from properties less than 40 hectares (100
acres) and impose severe restrictions on recreational riders on private property which is greater than 100
acres (40hectares).
The previous NSW state government passed legislation to allow people to complain if they find noise
offensive (Section 69 LGEPA). The person does not even have to be a resident of the shire to be able to
complain. Under this new legislation council must act to remove the source. This is done by placing a stop
order on the property and the owner. If the stop order is violated then fines of up to $100,000 can apply per
day of use.
Just so you are aware, take for example a stock Yamaha WR 450 registered in NSW by the RTA. This bike is
road legal and can go on any registered road in the state and meet all requirements of the law. However
under this new legislation if anyone complains to council, this same bike cannot be ridden on private property
and remember is doesn’t have to be a neighbour to complain. Kyogle council has adopted a draft policy (see
attached URL page 67 onward) and it will be out for public comment at the end of this month.
http://www.kyogle.nsw.gov.au/content/uploads/AGENDA28MAR11.pdf
http://www.northernstar.com.au/story/2011/03/29/move-to-muffle-dirt-bike-riders-kyogle/
This has led to a group of people driving around our shire taking photos and videos and presenting evidence
to council forcing them to act. There have been 20 complaints out of a total of 9868 people (0.2%of 1%) in
our shire. This anti bike group is well funded and most of the group are not gainfully employed, allowing
access to council 5 days a week. They are a splinter group of the Anti World Rally Championship that was
successful in having the rally moved from Kyogle Shire.
Kyogle council has assisted our club in organising Development applications to run races through
motorcycling NSW. However, our members feel the councils attitude towards recreational riders is abhorrent.
We are a very small club with less than 30 members all with full time employment. We don’t have the
resources or the skills to fight this well organised and well funded group, who have access to the media, both
newspapers and television. We need your help!!!!
This group is trying to make our shire the example for all others in the state to follow and they have already
emailed and contacted many other anti bike groups on the north coast to start lobbying their local councils
and use this legislation against all motorbike riders. We unfortunately are the test case and once the draft is
adopted we are all finished. Your local government area will be next.
You and your club needs to lobby your local politician to have this legislation changed, (or at least a decibel
rating for "offensive" applied), and once the draft from our council is available for public comment we need to
all make submissions.
Please do take this matter seriously, we already have stop orders on 12 and 10 year old children riding
Yamaha TTR's, a 125 and a 90. (A lawn mower is louder). This is how extreme this group is and they have
stated that this is just the beginning. Primary production practices are exempt, but recreational riding on
farms IS NOT!
Any suggestions or help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your time,
Chris Simpson
Club Secretary on behalf of Kyogle Dirt Bike Club
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For Sale
* 1963 Norton Atlas $9995 and 1970 BSA A65 Lightning $9995. Contact Kevin 0414673968
* AJS-Matchless 1950s singles complete frame, with swinging arm rear. Contact Neil 0414560265
* C15 crank assembly, part #68-3294, gear change quadrant, sale or swap for B44 engine parts.
Contact Shane 0417 123 199
* BSA Rocket 111 1969. Contact Carol [email protected]
* 1967 BSA Lightning 650 MKIV and 1967 BSA Spitfire 650. $7500 ea. Contact Lee 0405 560 765
* Steering damper bottom centre No 65-328. $5. Contact Joe [email protected]
* BEEZA number plate, red with white letters. Make an offer to Paul 0411596687
* Honda VTR1000F in immaculate condition, 12 months rego, new tyres, red leather tank protector and bag, gearsack
rack and spare set of standard mufflers. $6000. Contact Paul 0411596687
*Velocette c1938. Restoration project. Mostly complete apart from battery strap, speedo drive & cable. Eng no MAC 6437
. Spare engine MAC 432 also. Deceased estate, will be sold to the best offer. Photo’s available.
Contact Keith 0414 702 404.
Wanted
* M20 Smiths speedo, 80 mph. Contact Richard 02 63324730
* BSA M 20 6 volt horn, Contact George om 0428787055
* M23 valve lifter assembly or complete rocker box. Have a fair collection of BSA Single parts available also.
Contact Tim 0407267038
* Headlight cover complete with gauges, tank badges, drive chains from clutch to engine and main chain, exhaust pipe
and muffler, clutch and brake cables for a late 1956/early1957 M21 600cc plunger. Contact Joe 0438442260
* OIF petrol tank, large size. Headlight and front guard for 71 model. Contact MJ 0424 180 471
* Swinging arm gear box B31, B33 or 650cc, 1954 on. Contact Brian 02 9597 1827.
* BSA bantam D1 1949-1955, first bike. Contact Kristian 0432 167 665
* Girder fork bike, pre WWII. Any condition. Contact Neil 0414560265.
* 1970 BSA B25 front mudguard, seat cover. Contact Paul [email protected]
* 1972 Lightning front guard including stays. Contact Dave [email protected]
Swap
* Twin parts (eg rear barrels for front barrel conrods, fork rod for centre one, H model 1938 crankcases for early 1930s
cases, etc). Contact Wayne Prestage 02 49561400 or 039603157 Newcastle
* BSA A7 pre-1950 timing covers for 1951-63 covers. Also want A10 engine parts. Contact Steve [email protected]
Rent!
The Club owns two Patio Heaters (the tall post radiator type) which are available for rent. Rates are $10 per weekend each.
Contact Victor on 0408 286 434 or [email protected]
[email protected]
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ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING THURSDAY 4TH AUGUST
at
Regents Park Bowling Club,
Terrene St, Regents Park at 8 PM
Draft Agenda:
• Confirm the minutes of the last preceding AGM
GIRD YOUR FORKS!
Pre-war BSAs - online parts and technical help
• Acceptance of President’s, Treasurer’s and other club
reports
You may have recently acquired a pre-war BSA and, to be honest, their prices in Oz don’t seem too
outlandish for a rapidly diminishing stock of interesting bikes. It may not be a big V-twin but even the ‘umble
250 go-to-work single can be a charming little machine, with all the control idiosyncrasies of the time and
curious fork movement making these quite different to the 50s+ boom bikes. But this is before the time of
exploded parts diagrams and comprehensive manuals (definitely pre-Haynes), so you need what’s available,
mostly service sheets, stock picture lists of parts and hopefully a nice rider’s booklet. Here we go:
www.draganfly.co.uk (Draganfly’s cattledog and prices are downloadable - some pre-war kit)
www.stuartbray.bsa.btinternet.co.uk
dspace.dial.pipex.com/tevward/bikesheds/index.shtml
home.planet.nl/~leonhop3/bsa-30_e.html (BSA Model catalogues from 1930-39)
www.basmotor.a.se
www.cornucopia-enterprises.de/indey.html
www.wdbsa.nl (Henk Joore - sells a CD with parts books from 1914-1952)
www.armoursltd.co.uk
www.britishonly.com/tech/default.asp (Service sheets for Lucas, Amal etc)
www.bsa-m24.com
www.mercianmanuals.co.uk (sell all sorts of pre-war model manuals)
www.network54.com/Forum/162450 (pre-war forum)
www.bsaownersclub.co.uk/home.html
• Election of officers and committee members
• Receive and consider Section 26(6) statement
• Discussion on Club ride plate regulations
• Any other business raised by the Committee
Financial Statement of the BSA Club of NSW Inc
Bank Balance 30th June 2011
$5693.43
Cash on Hand
$ 965.00
Total
$6658.43
Membership 85 includes 11 new
Income
Expenditure
Interest
$3385.54
$2806 40
$ 53.64
]t is the opinion of the treasurer, the BSA Club of NSW Inc has sufficienr funds to meet
its financial commitments for the next financial year.
Victor Terry
Treasurer
22nd July 2011