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streetcar comments
Streetcar Alternatives Public Comment Summary The feedback from the speaker cards, council comments, voice messages, and open forum comments regarding the streetcar alternative routes indicates that the public is highly divided over which alternative best serves the community. The main opinion expressed and agreed upon by all of those who commented is the need for a master transit plan before making a decision about a preferred route. Constituents measure the utility of the project and alternative routes by: the added value of the route to the overall SLC transit system, impact on traffic/pollution, quality of life, and the economic benefits to Sugar House business. The 2100 South alternative received the most feedback overall, both positive and negative. The 1100 East proposal received mostly negative feedback after the public hearing on April 23. Below is a list of the most frequently cited reasons for support or opposition to the 2100 South and 1100 East extension in order of frequency. ROUTE 2100 South PRO 1100 East Economically Beneficial to Sugar House Businesses Improved access to public centers such as Sugar House Park, Highland High, 4th of July events, 21st & 21st Demonstrated Need‐ High rates of ridership along 2100 South Bus routes General support for improving East‐West Transit Street is wider and can accommodate more traffic Potential to connect line to Foothill Beneficial to Westminster Students and faculty Will offer an alternative to driving and will Decrease in traffic congestion along 1100 East Fewer drivers less pollution Economically beneficial to 1100 East businesses post‐construction Potential to connect to 9th and 9th and University TRAX line CON Safety concerns for students traveling to neighborhood schools across 2100 South: Dilworth Elementary, Hillside Middle School, and young Highland High students drivers Disruptive to residential neighborhood quality Decrease in property values Increased traffic in an already congested area Increase in crime Lack of need/demand for transit above 1300 East. Residents in Highland/Area will not use streetcar service because of socio‐economic status Bus system is just as efficient, functionally and economically Diminishes aesthetic value of Sugar House Will promote commercialization along 2100 South 1100 East is too Narrow Will add to already increase congestion along 1100 East and 21 S/11 E intersection Negative economic impact on 1100 E businesses because of restricted access to customers and deliveries to businesses Diminishes quaint, pedestrian‐ friendly character of Sugar House area The final 1700 South destination will only be of value to Westminster students Restricts access to East‐West bound residential streets crossing 1100 East Additional Interesting Observations One of the most frequently cited concerns was destruction of “community feel” and aesthetic value of the neighborhood All constituents who said they oppose the streetcar altogether, they would prefer the 2100 South proposal to the 1100 East proposal. In expressing opposition to either route, constituents most often referred to the impact on the quality of life in their neighborhood. Constituents define Sugar House as: unique, quaint, pedestrian friendly, bike friendly, open, and peaceful. Important stakeholders commented for both 2100 South and 1100 East proposals. Most of the business owners that commented expressed opposition to the 1100 East proposal. Almost all comments that referenced the Portland streetcar were in favor of the 1100 East proposal. A significant portion of the comments indicated that many constituents are under the impression that the streetcar will need the same design requirements as a TRAX train, such as separate lane, large stops etc. Constituents expressed concern about whether the presence of the streetcar on 1100 East will cause traffic impediments for emergency vehicles due to the narrowness of the street. Most common words in the comments: quiet, peaceful, construction, crime, property, noise, congested, unique, tax‐spending, charm, family, public space, transient, asset, 21st/11th intersection, 4th of July, Highland, Sugar House Park, Foothill, Child safety, hub and spoke, narrow, Dilworth, cute, pollution, bicyclists, pedestrian. Name Chad Miller Chris Kirk Dale Achel Kent Michi Comment My name is Chad Miller. My wife Katy Miller and I live on Ramona Avenue on 1027 Ramona just below 11th East on the west side of 11th. My wife and I have been remodeling a house there for the last five years. In the process in remodeling this house we have been required to submit exact plans of what we wish to do on the house. These plans had to be approved here in this exact in this building I am sitting. We feel that the residents here in Sugar House would deserve the same respect that you have shown to us as far as reviewing a plan that we’ve submitted. Making sure that it is a plan that meets specific requirements and also we have seeked your approval to pass off these plans and so we ask for the same requirements for the city to create a master plan that then can be submitted to the public that we can vote on and approve. Thank you. My name is Chris Kirk. I am a commercial real estate broker in town. I’m also a 30 plus year resident of Sugar House. I own a home below 10th East and my family and I live quite happily there. Two things: one it’s an absolute necessity to get the live rail system expanded into Sugar House and out of Sugar House. One of the reasons that we would leave Salt Lake altogether would be air pollution. There’s a lot of density in the area so we absolutely need another rail spur. But in my opinion I think it needs to go east up 21st South running up to Foothill where you have a lot of office buildings as well as retail. Then perhaps running north-south on Foothill Drive which would allow to alleviate some other traffic there. Either way I appreciate everything that you guys are doing to consider this, but I do think more of a master plan is required. My other concern is for the public safety of my children and a lot of children that are in the neighborhood. If you run along 11th East I fear that we’ll see more traffic on 10th East and I haven’t heard anybody comment on that tonight, but 10th East is already a thoroughfare. It should be 20 miles an hour and people are already driving upwards of 40, 50 miles an hour. So I think we need a little bit more careful consideration on 11th East route might do there. Thank you There we go okay. What a bunch of naysayer’s in the other room. Somebody was counting the nays and yeas. I didn’t really hear any yeas. I‘d like to say, “Yea and I love the trolley.” I love what’s going on. It’s all positive I don’t care which direction it goes it’s a win situation as far as I’m concerned. I love rail and I love mass transit. I think it is possible to put a rail line down 11th East without impacting the traffic. What is going to impact the traffic, however is that the city is growing and it isn’t necessarily growing all that well. Maybe it was a little more thinking in terms of how to grow the city, but when people say the 11th East is just going to get more congested. Yes it is, trolley or no trolley you double the size of the city it’s going to create problems. Now it is the time to transportation plan to prevent those problems because you can’t prevent the growth. I’ve lived in communities with mass transit. I love the Portland system and the crown jewel of the Portland system is the trolley line. If I could relocate myself I would relocate myself right onto the Sugar House trolley line somewhere because it’s an absolutely fabulous, fabulous development in this valley. Thank you very much for putting it in. Hello Mayor and city council, my name is Kent Mitchie. I'm a long time resident of Salt Lake City. I live in the Parvus Area — east Sugar House, if you want to call it that. I have the distinction of having a grandfather who was born in Sugar House in November of 1861. I have been a long time proponent of building out our public transit system. I would like to suggest that you take the current trolley system up Wilmington to 13th East over to 21st South and up 21st South to 17th East. Then make a loop that would go up 17th East, down 17th South and then south on 11th East. It seems to me that a system like this needs to loop because it's a one-way system. Just going up and back doesn't make much sense to me. A loop I heard the fellow that lived in Helsinki, that lived in Helsinki, I've lived there myself. I know they have a great system and we should have that too. I thank you for your attention and I hope that you'd be farsighted enough to adopt a long-term public transit plan for Salt Lake City and its residents. Thank you. Paul Stack Resident Sonia Hoysher Thea Brannon Tom McCowan Hi my name is Paul Stack. I'm a resident of Sugar House for six years. I originally got interested in Sugar House because I was aware of some of the plans for developing the old Denver-Rio Grande right of way and that UTA was thinking about acquiring it, and that there were the beginnings of a plan for the streetcar. So I've been very pleased to see that Phase One streetcar coming to fruition. I think it's going great. I think that the extension of the streetcar is a great idea I think going to Highland, north on Highland to 2100th South and then turning east on 2100 South to get over to Sugar House Park is a great idea. Sorne Simon Center sent a propose to eventually to go east to Parley’s way maybe even curve up north to the university to connect with the tracks red line. I think that my basic opinion is that in order to make the city livable indefinitely and to sort of future proof it we need more public electric transit because I only see the gas prices are going to go up and up and up. Also removing the pollution generation from within the neighborhoods is a great idea. Which electric transit allows you know there's a power plant elsewhere its good not to have the pollution in the neighborhood and its more efficient. So there as an ecological savings of energy that way. Last my five year old son I have been riding the track system for four years or so since he was old enough, age one, to go out with me. We've had countless great adventures together on the tracks line going throughout the system. So I really appreciate all the public transit development. So I'm very in favor of Phase Two along 2100 East and all the way up to the university if we can more streetcars. Thank you. I'm a resident of 2100th South. I'm representing some of my neighbors in that area. One thing I do want to represent is everybody in Sugar House. I don't like the divided atmosphere of the people of 11th East versus the people of 21st South. I think a master plan needs to be considered that takes into account all of the people in Sugar House, not dividing the two neighborhoods. Since I live right on 21st South I'm very, very concerned about what's going to happen to my residential neighborhood. I feel strongly that I moved there, I like the single. I don't think that we will be very well served by a tracks train going up 21st South to a phantom retail area on 2100 and 2100. It's a very small area I would much prefer to see bike lanes put in and people walk and get to know their neighbors instead of us spending tax dollars, uselessly again, on an electrical albatross running up my street. Thank you Hi my name is Sonia Hoysher. I'm a resident of the Sugar House neighborhood. I live pretty close to the 7/11 that's off of Highland Drive. I am very much in favor of the streetcar. I do however think it would be better to bring it up 21st South primarily because the streetcar is already in east-west line and I think you should continue it in that direction to keep it simple. When you come up with your master plan for transportation I also like to give the advice to keep it simple, keep routes going north and south, north-south, and routes going east to west, east-west. Thank you. My name is Thea Brannon. I live on Wilson Avenue up 17th from 21st South, up 17th East. I've lived there for 15 years. I would like to age in place before I'm shuffled off to a nursing home or something, but I am not young like the Westminster students are. I'm not going to get any younger. I think they should just be able to walk as their leaders have implied. I think that the whole eastern side of Sugar House from 13th East and up into the benches and that whole area up in there north of Sugar House Park really needs improved transportation and I think that a beautification program along 21st utilizing that huge space and allowing easy access to the park. Permitting more people and up to 21st and making that a really nice business area makes the absolute the most sense. Thanks very much. Hi my name is Tom McCowan my purpose of my coming to speak today is really two fold. First I'm here to represent Walmart. I'm the store manager of the Walmart located on 2100 South. Currently about a third of my staff relies on public transportation to get to work. Currently, I appreciate all the hard work that's gone into the East Bench master plan and the public transportation work that's gone in currently and over the last year or so, but I think we would all agree that there's a need for some sort of public transportation be it a bus, a trolley, something to access the East Bench area a little more conveniently. So really my purpose today is to represent about 50 plus associates that currently work at the Walmart and then the local businesses up on the east side of Parleys Way and Foothill that would appreciate an increase in the public transportation and the ease of access of that area. Thank you. Tracey Miller Wayne Witzel Laurie Layton Hi my name is Tracey Miller and I currently reside just north of Liberty Park, but for ten years I did live in Sugar House. So I am very familiar with that area. What I am here representing however, is the organization that I work for which is Best Friend's Animal Society. For over a year we searched for an excellent location to open sort of a regional center that also is an adoption center. We found that off of 11th East, of course, and as a non-profit we've sunk in over a quarter of a million dollars. We've not opened yet, and as a non-profit that's a lot of money to us. Our fear is, and I'm not saying we believe one way or the other, but our big fear about 11th East is transporting the animals in and out. The dogs won't be staying overnight and so it's not zoned for that and we don't feel comfortable with that anyways so that's a big issue. We run a big mobile clinic called The Big Fix on Tour that does low cost spay and neuter. That too is something were concerned about getting it in and out of there if there is a trolley line. The other thing is if the trolley line is the major way people are going to be traversing that area what does that do when they stop off at our adoption center, fall in love with some big, black lab and how do they get it back home? So those are just some of our concerns and thank you for your time. My name is Wayne Witzel my wife and I own Image Eyes Optical on 11th East. We’ve been there for ten years we love Sugar House. I think we have a business that could be mass transit or at least trolley proof like a dentist or like a hair dresser. I think people like their eye glass Optician, which by the way we do help a few people on this Council. I am for mass transit, but it has to be well planned out. I am not quite sure why we don’t attempt with limited tax dollars to move mass quantities of people maybe down 7th East and then running a spur up 21st I think that makes great sense. I am a little concerned about 11th East. I’m a little concerned about such a short track line from 21st to 17th with those limited tax dollars and federal transportation dollars. I understand and I’ve suggested as before why not running up 21st and make 11th East and 13th East one way streets? Terminating at maybe 11th East at Highland and 13th and 11th going north at 4th South for instance. I am sure that can be well thought out. I also have a question why is it that UTA or the city cannot run up state routes or have right away access? For instance on Foothill or I think 7th East is also a state route. I am curious to know the answer to that question. Thank you. Good evening Council my name is Laurie Layton and for seven years I’ve owned and operated Boxing Is For Girls on 1100 East. We are against the 1100 East streetcar for many reasons but the reason I will address tonight is about numbers. Numbers of constituents’ residents and interested parties of the area. On behalf of theses individuals I have submitted a 1565 signature petition which you should have. This 1565 signature petition was amassed in only seven days. The last seven days. Seven days ago when this issue was brought to our attention by a concerned neighbor. In seven days 1565 signatures from business residences and interested parties were gathered. They were gathered together right from in front of our business on 1100th East. We did not travel off of the street. There were 1565 of your citizens that said no to the 1100th East streetcar. Yes you did a ten month study regarding the streetcar and all that it involved. In the ten months you had three meetings. Only 200 people were involved in those three meetings. 200 people that’s what’s in your PDF file. You did your due diligence of mailers, fliers, and media however; the reality is that still only 200 people showed up to those meetings and the majority of people didn’t even know as she said. 1565 people spoke against the proposed 1100th East streetcar line after it was brought to their attention. These people have spoken. They have said, “No.” 1565 is a bigger voice than 200. There’s a less damaging and more effective route. I know you can and will find it. 1565 of your constituent’s citizens of Salt Lake and Sugar House. (Alarm) Eliza James Emily Ford Michael Aret Hi my name is Eliza James. For seven years I’ve owned and operated Boxing Is For Girls P-I-F-G in the proposed project area. This is my street! This is your street! This is all of our street. We are Sugar House and we are against the 11th streetcar alignment. We are local. We have been busy building this street. We are the grit of the street true grit. We have been working tirelessly to build the foundation by building local businesses that attract people from all over the community that drive in their cars with their families to shop, eat and play. We have made 11th East a part of their lives a part of their routine. They come here several times weekly. We are local listen to us. We are what makes our city interesting. We are sexy we don’t need a streetcar to do that. We are thriving and evolving at a natural pace. We are moving in the right direction. We want what you want. Don’t disrupt the growth we have been working years to create. Believe in us we believe in you. We are the movement that you are looking for. I could state the facts but others have done that well. Instead I come to you with something real. We are that real change you are looking for. It’s already happening. We are a dying people without something real. The heart something from the inside. We are the heart of Sugar House. Give us some more time. We are great soon to be grand we do not need a streetcar to be grand. We have already built it and more are coming. They are coming. We will rise and we are rising. Thank you. My name is MJ Ford I live and work on 1100 East. I’m opposed to the 1100th East streetcar tracks line alignment for many reasons but I’ll present just one the matter of public safety. The great city of San Francisco has many streetcar routes. The cost to the city of San Francisco is $12 million dollars yearly in injury lawsuits paid out to the public for injuries related to the streetcar. Even though the Sugar House streetcar is not open air and more like the small bus with the tracks and wires. It does stop two times more frequently than UTA bus and will add dramatically to the confusion and congestion that’s already on this small street. The street is too small for the streetcar. It will predictably cause increase in pedestrian accidents vehicle accidents, bicycle accidents it will not only injure our citizens, but cost the tax payers millions of dollars because of the lawsuits from these injuries. The 2100th South route will of course have an increase in accidents as well. However, because of the larger more expansive nature of 2100 South people are not running across 2100 South as they are 1100th East. There will be less harm and financial liability. 1100th East is a very busy street and people are going to get hurt. I’m here to protect the people that’s what I do. We’re not a number we’re people. We’re a growing community. You want to preserve the character of the Sugar House community then let us continue to build it. Thank you for your time. Good evening. My name is Michael Aret I’m an attorney and homeowner in the Stratford neighborhood of Sugar House. I come to the issue of the Sugar House tracks expansion as an ardent supporter of Phase One of this project. I am also a one time member of the Friends of Sugar House and South Salt Lake streetcar. That being said, after reviewing the various options contained in the Phase One Alternatives Draft Report. It is safe to say that I’m not currently a friend of the streetcar. My concern with the draft report and with information gleamed from other publicly available documentation is that the city seems to be proceeding with no clear plan in mind. What began as tracks for Phase One is now expected to sprout spurs of it’s own and almost half-hazard fashion right through the heart of Sugar House. An already congested traffic area this intersection of 11th East and 21 South is to be made worse for it’s residents. I can find nothing in the material published by the city to demonstrate where, when or how these new spurs will connect to the existing tracks network. Vague illusions further north with expansion along 11th East is not a plan it is a daydream. Until the city can demonstrate a master plan it has no business committing tax dollars to an increasingly seems link an expensive vanity project. One of the reasons I supported Phase One of this project was that it contemplated future expansion of the tracks line. The rail easement Phase One occupies per my understanding, is wide enough to accommodate a second set of tracks should passenger levels demand it. Nothing this draft report however indicates planning for parallel tracks in Phase One. 30 years from now the same council al be it with new personalities will be cursing the short-sightedness of their predecessors for failing to plan for a more robust track system. I urge the city to put the brakes on further expansion of Sugar House tracks line until 1. There is a comprehensive master plan published. And 2. The city has adequately accounted for how the chosen route will eventually accommodate parallel tracks. At present none of the Phase One alternatives meet these requirements as such the council should adopt none of them at the present time. Andrea HaHee Pamela Pederson Ben Labrum Hi I’m Andrea Hahee I commute to Sugar House for work which is on 1100th East nearly every day and I have been for the past two and a half years. I spent a great deal of my time running and walking along the 1100th East. I do this with my clients and on my own time. I enjoy the vibe, the beauty and the sense of community that the area has. People are welcoming, friendly and we all know each other. Putting up tracks on this narrow street will destroy that. Also obesity in America is an epidemic 60 percent of Americans are obese. Let’s get out and walk a block or two. We’re a walk able and active community. As our neighbor Urbana says and I quote. “Just outside your door is every imaginable shop, service and amenity. To discover it just put one foot in front of the other. We recently made the decision to sell a home that we built ourselves to move to the Sugar House area and be a part of the neighborhood that we’ve grown to love. However if a streetcar’s going to run down the neighborhood where our children will we will reconsider this area. It is a family oriented place and families with children are not going to park their big cars to ride a streetcar around Sugar House for $2.50 two fifty a person. It will cause traffic and parking to run down the residential streets. It will be noisy. Make street parking difficult if not impossible and it will ruin the sense of community that draws people to it. Simply put I am against it. Thank you. I’m Pamela Peterson. I have two sets of keys to two businesses in the area that is being affected by this proposal. I work and train at the gym where you’ve heard some people and I own the Central Book Exchange which is just north of the 21st – 11th East intersection. In 1986 My business was already very well established although obviously I didn’t own it. In that time 11th East was shut down for an entire summer while the city pulled out the old existing tracks for streetcars. My store was nearly shut down that summer because people could not get there. It never really recovered from that summer and it’s actually amazing that it’s still open so I could buy it 2005. That’s a long time to be hurt by a city project. Illogical plans with high price tags and no real destinations are not a good idea. When I talk about no real destinations if the tracks would go along 21st South there’s some logical destinations there. Sugar House Park, Navy Highland High school that makes sense. This proposed line would end by the 711. So I guess if you’re in the mood for a hotdog you have somewhere to get it. That doesn’t make sense to taxpayers. Mayor Becker just talked about having a lean budget. Just because we’re getting federal funds does not mean we should waste them. My business is dependant on future inventory coming into my front door by people bringing boxes of books. They need cars and trucks to transport those heavy boxes they really do. There are thousands of pounds a week that come in. Locking customers are great and numbers will increase over time as current construction projects finish. If my core customer base starts to believe they can’t easily access my store they’ll stop coming. We really do need to vote down this proposal. There’s just a lot of better ideas out there thank you. (Timer beep) Hi I’m Ben Labrum seems like no one else wants the streetcar, but I do. I live at 21st South and it makes a whole lot of sense to me. I’ll tell you why it’s the air pollution. We can see it really well from – to connect everything. We can see it really well from up on the East Bench right? It’s stewing down in the valley and sometimes it seems like we’re not down in it, but we are. We’re breathing the same air and we’re actually a big part of the problem. Because every time we go somewhere we’re driving a car. Hey kids let’s go down to the skate park Fairmont Park. Let’s go swimming. Let’s go play soccer. Everywhere we go we drive because there is no viable public transit option Parley) Way Country Club Heights. So I do want the streetcar? I think it would be really neat the way my neighborhood is with how wide 21st is instead of hearing those car keys jingle to hear that trolley jingle. We’ll just hop on and then we can go down to Sugar House and spend some money on 11th East and all that stuff. So you guys don’t want it. I do want it. Hopefully you’ll re-route it up 21st some day. Thanks very much. J.D. Smith Hi I’m J.D. Smith Chair of the 21st and 21st business district. I am speaking on behalf of 20 plus business and property owners that are part of our non-profit organization. I want to start of by first Mr. Mayor, city council thanking you for four years ago putting a focus on neighborhood business nodes. It was through this focus and this energy that we established our business district. With that establishment we started looking at a vision for the business district. A vision we started looking around at how can we make our neighborhood a better business district for the neighborhood and the residents that surround us. We looked at 9th and 9th is a prime example of how property owners and business owners partnered with the city to redesign reconfigure the way people move within that district. It’s now one of the crown jewels of Salt Lake City. When we crated our vision we looked at the same kind of things that 9th in 9th has reducing traffic flow one way each way on 2100th South turn lanes, medians (Unintelligible 0:19:10) at the crosswalks, increase crosswalks, bike lanes, off street amenities like trash cans and bike racks that we already have. Park benches more shade trees and of course part of our vision three years ago is a streetcar. Whenever we would talk about a streetcar people would say, “Hold on let’s talk about some smaller things we can work on now there will be time enough to talk about a streetcar”. In the last public hearing and the last moment with our last breath we get to make our appeal for a streetcar. Rather than go down 11th East in a thriving district that works. Eventually possibly the 9th and 9th and tearing up of streets that work. We invite you to bring it to 17th East so that together we can have a discussion about enthusiastically taking of the streets of 21 and 21 reconfiguring redesigning and creating the next great jewel of Salt Lake City that consists of local unique business communities. Bring the route to the East for our businesses for our employees, for our residents and neighbors. Thank you. Thank you very much. My name is Christopher Thomas. I am the Chair of the Sugar House Community Council and it’s a pleasure to be with you here this evening. I’m going to talk about briefly two different documents I have submitted. One is on Sugar House Community Council letterhead and it reports the results of strap polls that we did. We asked two questions the first was, “What do you want to do with the Monument Plaza? The overwhelming response was to make it a pedestrian plaza. The second had to do with where the streetcar would go. By margin of two to one those that we polled preferred the alignment to go east on 21st South as oppose to north on 11th East. So that’s all I’m going to say about that and that’s in the capacity of Sugar House Chair. Now I’m going to talk about what I think as a resident of Sugar House. First of all I just want to say, “Thank you.” Because I’m really excited about the Sugar House Christopher Thomas streetcar. I think it’s going to bring really good opportunities to our area and I really thank you for your time and energy in that direction. I also want to applaud the city council’s effort to devise a master plan for transit for the whole city it’s desperately needed. I look forward to the day when people can choose to live in Salt Lake City and not have a car to get around. I think that will bring big benefits to our city. So with that in mind my preference would be to actually wait until that master transit plan is devised before deciding which direction the streetcar would go. However, if you forced me to choose one of the two alignments I would choose going east along 2100th South. I should say also with going through the Shop-co block and I believe this affords some good opportunities. One is to do some re-development in the Shop-co block that could help anchor this new transit and a new transit oriented type of development that can help support that new phase of the streetcar. Second I believe – I think 2100th South just has more room to accommodate a streetcar. (Timer Beep) Lastly I believe that you can do a nice corridor east and west along 2100th South. So those are all my comments tonight and thank you for your time. Jason Reesin Good evening my name is Jason Reesin. I’m here tonight to express my concern with the streetcar extension route proposed to go down 1100th East. I’m afraid if this project is given the council’s approval and construction of it’s extension begins on 1100th East this quaint section of Sugar House may be lost. Some businesses may not be able to survive the decrease of revenue during the construction. Construction will always have an impact in the area it is in. But I feel for the 1100th East businesses and homeowners to have to endure the scale of construction needed to complete this project on such a narrow street is not justified and not good business. Heavy equipment will need to be used to get this work completed. The major goal of the contractor is production therefore the largest pieces of equipment that they can bring into the area will be utilized. This equipment will clog up the streets and possibly damage businesses, homes, utilities and public property. These areas that are outside the work zone will have to be repaired and may never match its preexisting condition. Because of the constructions own footprint traffic control required to complete the project many existing customers may not spend money at their favorite shops. New customers will avoid the area. These new customers will miss out on all these great shops, studios, bookstores and restaurants with owners who have taken pride in establishing their businesses in such a unique way. Who is truly going to benefit from this expenditure besides the contact and design engineers? Having walked down 1100th East several times I have notice the goal of this project is trying to accomplish is already available. I’m referring to the bus and it is already operational. It does not require any additional construction or overhead wires to make it run. If the public likes the idea of a nostalgic streetcar image in the neighborhood it would be a better value and less impact to current businesses and homeowners to purchase a rubber tire trolley as many cities use these in small neighborhoods. (Timer beep) I’m asking you tonight to reconsider your proposal of taking the Sugar House traffic extension down to 1100the East. Thanks for your time. Good evening council members. Good evening Mayor. I had the pleasure of living in Helsinki Finland for three years with one of the most fabulous public transportation systems in Europe. They had trams, streetcars, metro buses and it works really, really well. When the city came up with the idea of expanding the program to the suburbs and that’s Richard Hayes Olsen when the disaster happened. What happened is they developed a metro system that only had one lane for the streetcars or the trams. And what happens is the clogging and the clogging and the clogging. Especially in the snow. So what the motorists do is they take alternative routes. Then you notice something such as 13th East or 9th East will get clogged, and clogged, and clogged because no one wants to follow a streetcar in the snow because it keeps stopping. Then the motorists say to themselves, “That’s my other alternative.” So they take these alternatives. I own a home on 1300th East it’s already a nightmare to back out onto there. If we put the streetcar in 11th East and you ask the residents on 13th East what they think about it, it’s just going to jam them. In order for this to work there needs to be two lanes. There needs to be the street car land and then there needs to be the car lane. It doesn’t Amy Berry Maggie Shaw Renaldo Hunt My name is Amy Berry and I have submitted lengthy written comments to you of why I prefer the alignment on 2100th South. I’m going to direct you to read those because they’re more eloquent than I will talk about tonight. I would like to address some issues that have come up. So I have lived in Sugar House for 16 years. I live just below Westminster College right off 11th East right off 21st South. Either direction this goes I feel like I get to win from it. But I want to commend the city and the city council for their commitment to the streetcar because within a half a mile three quarter of a mile radius of my house we are adding in the next few years a thousand apartments. That’s great, but if we don’t have a multimodal transit system we’re not going to be able to handle that. It’s not going to just affect the business district of Sugar House because those motorists are going to travel. They’re going to continue to increase the congestion on 11th East. They’re going to travel up 21st South. That density will spread and we need a streetcar. We need a streetcar system. We need a bus system. We need roads. We need all of those in order to keep growing to accommodate those. Residents and businesses I think that the congestion is a prime example of why we need a streetcar. I think air pollution is a prime example of why we a streetcar. We need those things in my community and I think that they can co-exist with residential areas. I don’t think a streetcar needs to be common enemy to those things. I do also think a streetcar is about connecting neighborhoods and providing opportunities. Which is one of the reasons why I support taking it up 21st South because we don’t give them many options other than being in their vehicle. I do ultimately support the streetcar and I commend you for that commitment because we are going to need it. Hi I’m Maggie Shaw and I live at 1150 east Wilson Avenue. So I am sandwiched between Westminster College and 11th East. 11th East is very congested. I find the streetcar as a possible solution to that congestion not as adding to it. I’ve lived in my house since 1985. I’ve been a former chair of the Sugar House Community Council. I think it’s fair to say I have a long time commitment to Sugar House. I would very much like to see a city wide transportation plan before we commit to anything. That being said, if I have to choose today I am in favor of the 11th East alignment. It will maybe be difficult in the short term, but in the long term I think it will be wonderful for the businesses there. I went – I had the opportunity to join Mayor Becker on the Portland streetcar trip back in I believe it was 2009. There’s a neighborhood in Northwest Portland that looks very, very much like Sugar House. Residential it’s neighborhoodie it has a 23rd northwest goes down as buildings much like the little businesses we have in Sugar House and it works there. It’s wonderful there hasn’t been some big ugly build out because of it. It is still residential. When we got off the streetcar there everybody looked around and went this looks like Sugar House. This is what we could have. So I’m very much in favor of the streetcar. I would like to see more study and for now I am in favor of the 11th East alignment thank you. My name is Renaldo Hunt. I’d like to thank everyone for their time this evening. I’m a commercial real estate developer. I develop high density residential mixed use product in Sugar House and other areas in Salt Lake. I’m in support of the streetcar whole heartedly. I actually like to see it go up 21st mainly for functionality. 1300th East is a pretty big disconnect to the rest of the east side of Salt Lake. It’s a relatively high traffic corridor. It’s a dangerous intersection on 2100th and 13th East for pedestrians and bikers primarily in an auto intersection for now. I’d like to see downtown Sugar House connect to probably the largest amenity within the Sugar House area is the park. It’s one of the only parks in the area that is primarily used year round for skate, skiing, running for children playing. So I think as the Sugar House becomes a more dense neighborhood the residential capacity increases, the height increases, the density increases. I think it would be a good idea to allow the residents convenient access to Sugar House Park and alternative the quarter that they’re building under 1300th East, but something that you know if you’re trying to skate ski in the winter you live in downtown Sugar House. You want to just pop up to the park and get some exercise you can take your skis on it and not have to get into a car and drive. Conversely if you have a family one of the apartment units’ downtown Sugar House you can pop onto the trolley and go up to the park with the kids and not have to get into a car and drive. So I think realistically as the density increases in Sugar House I think a functional option to connect to the park community asset would be a streetcar. It would also encourage additional growth and planned density of east of 1300th East. So I think it would be a good unifying system for not only Sugar House, but the rest of the upper east Bench. I thank you for your time, have a good evening. Douglas Cotan Clayton Giliant Judy Short First of all I once rode a streetcar in San Francisco about 1976 and I quite enjoyed it. I quite enjoyed riding these white rail trains. My first question is: What difference does it make which direction the streetcar goes? I think what the city is doing and what U-T-A’s doing is trying to provide transportation so that people don’t have to pay – so that people don’t have to pay high gas prices because in some areas gas prices are outrageous. So I should think that a streetcar would be welcomed like the white rail, the heavy rail and the buses. Besides that I think the streetcar should go into areas where buses and the white rail doesn’t go. That would provide more opportunities for people to leave their cars home and not have to pay high gas prices. Thank you. Hello my name’s Clayton Giliant I’m Stacie Lidbeck we’re general engineering contractors specializing in light rail and streetcar construction in dense urban environments. I’d like to try tamper some of the anxiety related to the construction by describing mitigation tools and success stories involving streetcar construction. We have proven tools and proven results and it is in our best interest to ask small businesses survive and prosper during and after construction. Rapid fire of the mitigation tools that we use we use probably notifications personally delivered that are easy to read and direct traffic to these businesses. We flag you in with professional and courteous flaggers. The streetcar construction is not door front to door front construction so it’s not as invasive as full scope light rail construction. We can use or whoever the contractor is can use distinct contained tidy work zones and not tear it up all at once. 24/7 hotline, quick responses, community advisory committee to help with our traffic control schemes for example. On Phase One the consensus was to come across 700th East with a short duration field closure. We did that in 48 hours. We can use flexible work hours, nights, and weekends. We can specifically plan around special events. We can support businesses with the shop Sugar House program to have our own people shop there. Pedestrian access bridges, driveway coordination, pre-cast concrete components to help exhilarate construction. Quickly just proven statements from past businesses large and small where we’ve worked Organ Convention Center. We’ve gone down beyond to accommodate all of the Organs Convention Center requests these are quotes. What will state university minimal disruption to campus operations. Hock watch here in Sugar House receptive to our concerns noise and traffic disturbance minimal. Sugar House BBQ, Phenomenal Communications, and (Timer Beep) extra little things to help me as a business owner. Hi Judy Short. I’ve given you a letter tonight which summarizes the fact that both our Sugar House Council and the others who attended one of our two meetings this month are split about which alternative they preferred. Even our Executive Committee is split we’ve heard that tonight. I think the decision is being made without having a plan in place. I can understand why Phase One was built because you had the alignment. However, I really think the smart thing to do is put together a city-wide transportation plan. That includes buses and streetcars. One that serves the people on the east side of town and relieves some of the traffic on Foothill Boulevard. Gives us decent bus service to those that live above 13th East in Sugar House. Decide where you want the growth to be and design the plan to fit that. Don’t try to increase the density at the expense of our wonderful eclectic neighborhoods. Fill up the spaces that have more capacity. For example the Shop-co block including the north side of Wilmington Avenue. The 21st East and 21st South intersection and the corner of 7th East and 21st South on all four corners. 7th East and 21st South is soon going to be form based code. That will give lots of possibilities for future development. We understand the population’s expected to double, but you still need preserve quality of life. Our city can’t be just high rise apartment buildings. We need to preserve some single family housing. Maybe 50 years from now will all be five story buildings along 11th East, but we aren’t there yet. Make a plan and execute the plan over time. Personally I favor the 21st South alignment for all the reasons in my letter, but I think you need to think about whether you just approve it – approve 11th East or maybe you can be bold and design a plan first. Kenner Kingston Sarah Woolsey Brandon Lloyd Pat Newhouse Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to express a point of view. I come to you as a – with a unique point of view in terms of being both a resident at the 17th and 17th area close to one of the contemplated spur locations and also a business owner at 2505 Parleys Way. This is an interesting debate. As I was sitting outside I chatted with a few different people. You know in my mind it was a very simple issue. I’ve spoken with some folks who favor the 8th East direction and I of course, favor the 21st South direction. We’re lucky to have these first world problems and we’re lucky that you’ve brought this issue to us as a public to consider how to make our community better. The truth of the matter is we’ll be well served as a community in either case. I do believe that – I agree with J.D. Smith the 21st and 21st area is underserved and is ready for that kind of growth that he suggested. The 11th East corridor is well developed, has a great scale and additional transportation options will only crowd out other even more sustainable transportation options such as bike lanes etcetera for that area. 21st South on the other hand is seven plus lanes wide at the park could really use something to break down the scale. Needs that kind of refurbishment along 21st South and moving on the way up to the end of Parley’s way. When Wal-Mart was contemplating it’s re-zone discussion I did discuss with Delia Garcia the opportunity for and the concept of a park and ride at that location. Which at the time they seemed very open to and indeed they used it in their discussion. I would be surprised if they didn’t welcome that opportunity. I’ve read Sorren’s letter on the topic. It’s very well thought through and would support every aspect of it. Thank you for the time. Hi my name is Sarah Woolsey and thank you all for your service. I’m going to support a number of my neighbors and business owner neighbors. I do not favor the 11th East extension of the streetcar. I’m a homeowner one block west of where the streetcar would be on Hollywood Avenue. I’d just like to state that two points related to that. Number one when I asked the R-D-A investigators about the traffic studies that they’ve done on side streets there have not been done any. They have not looked on impact to the residence on either the east or the west of 11th East. We are already under high pressure from all the development in Sugar House. The quality of life of our residential neighborhood is at risk. I’m concerned about that not being taken into consideration as this was favored by the city. The second concern I have is for development along 11th East that might follow the streetcar. We already have some high rises shadowing our little bungalow homes. We already have businesses that are quaint, but I fear they’ll be torn down and a lot more high rise development will come and will change the character and quality of the neighborhood that I love. So I encourage us to maintain the quality of our neighborhood and to also consider if any extension is done that we study not just the main streets, but the side streets for the quality of life of Sugar House residents. Thank you. We’re here to express the support of Westminster College student body for the 1100th East alignment of the Sugar House streetcar. Westminster’s made up of over 3300 students and several hundred faculty, staff and adjuncts. 54 percent of our entering classes from out of state and while some criticize Westminster’s students for not being true Sugar House locals we believe we are. Our students give over 70 thousand hours of community service annually to local businesses and non-profits. Westminster contributes more than $40 million in direct spending and $182 million dollars in indirect and induced spending per year leaving an annual economic impact of nearly $80 thousand per student. These numbers show the true impact of our campus in our community and countless hours our students spend serving, shopping and living in the community prove that we are invaluable to Sugar House. Currently Westminster spends more than $11 thousand dollars per month to provide U-T-A transportation to all the students, faculty, staff and campus members. This results in a monthly 10 thousand trips. On an average day 332 members of our campus will use public transportation just to reach our campus alone. Not to mention the surrounding districts that we are so closely connected with. Good evening. I’m Pat Newhouse and I am a business owner on 11th East. I’ve been in Sugar House for 17 years. I own the Awakening Heart Gifts and Books and I’m right there on the Hollywood Avenue and 11th East. So I know exactly the intersection that the previous speaker was referring to because I get to look at it every day and I see the congestion that is there on that particular intersection. I am definitely not in favor of the Sugar House Trolley going up 11th East. I think it’s a really short sided idea. I think that it would be much more advantageous to run it up 21st South. I read the letter that Sorren sent out to all the businesses in the neighborhood. I really do agree with what he had to say. I think he did a very excellent job in describing how that could unfold. I feel that that is a really much better way of approaching that idea with the trolley. So I would hope that you all would consider the 21st South approach as opposed to the 11th East. Thank you. Michael Rubin Donald Galler Lee Langston Lisa Hildebrand At Westminster we’re taught to look at all the facts and ultimately when it comes down to it the 1100th East will get the most rider ship out of both the options. Also the reason when it comes down to it why Westminster students support it so much is because looking though the future has the most ability to connect Westminster with the community through the rider ship of this and connecting it down to 9th and 9th and further on to downtown where most of the students have internships and jobs. It will also help promote a lot of the walk ability throughout ad increase foot traffic into all of these local businesses that students not only work at, but also visit daily. So when it comes down to it Westminster and it’s students most of us support the 1100th East because when it (Timer beep) it just makes sense. Good afternoon. Being electronically challenged I’m not going to watch any of your emails and stuff like that. I do want to tell you I came from an area where there’s lots of tracks, tracks trains and so forth. In that area we learned a slogan stop, look and listen. I’d like to use that as I present some of the things that has come about to me. Number one we need to stop wasting money and time trying to fix something that isn’t broken. We need to stop embellishing bus rider ship that doesn’t exist up to 23rd East on 21st South. When school is out when summer’s here, when days are off for vacation rider ship is not more than a hand full of people. Stop promising one thing and then performing a bait and switch. A trolley or a streetcar is not a retro-fitted tracks train. Stop and make a definite real plan with real information that has been discussed with those primarily impacted. Not just a – I think I want this. Stop form based zoning it does not belong in well established neighborhoods. Stop pitting one neighborhood against another neighborhood. This idea of where it should go 11th or 21st should not even be. Now let’s go to look. Look at the good inadequate job that is being done by E-T-A buses. The bus system and remember that they are already looking for retrofit buses with electrical and natural gas. Look and see that there are two real options to the University of Utah. Bus number 21 which goes directly to the University of Utah one short trip down to the main track system takes the red line and it goes directly into the University of Utah a and the hospital systems up there. That’s a tough one to follow. My name’s Lee Langston I’m a relatively new resident there on 11th East right by Hollywood. Which either gives me a little bit of street cred depending upon one’s opinion on this. I have street cred for buying into the transit idea and moving there or I have no right to talk for the opinion I have. But I personally support the alignment up 11th East. For me it’s a matter of scale and what a streetcar is and what it can be. When I think about 11th I see a street that’s scaled towards that type of transit and that type of shopping and residences and so forth. I see an opportunity to connect up through to 9th and 9th and then the tracks. Obviously everybody sees a potential but you connect two shopping districts that are on a small intimate walk able scale. When I look out 21st East or 21st South headed east I see a wider street that carries a lot more traffic and for the first extension of this line really just has a park on one side and kind of scattered businesses on the other. Effectively one side of the street has one destination which is the park so I think that’s something to consider. I just think that in the long run really the scale is what matters here. The east side absolutely deserves some solutions, but I think it deserves larger scale solutions that are thought out better. As for myself I wouldn’t mind if we waited for a master plan as well. I see Foothill we talk about it going to Foothill. If you’re covering that kind of distance I don’t know that you want to be in a streetcar. I think maybe you do want to be in something that’s a little more like a train. Certainly coming down Foothill from the U is something that looks a lot more like a train. So I think those are things to consider and thank you for your time. Hi I have decided to change what I was going to say because you haven’t been representing the people who actually live in the area that is zoned for residents. From 15th East to 21st East on 21st South and I live there. I love the area. It has been zoned for residential since 1952 when they destroyed the prison. All of that neighborhood was starting to be developed. As a neighborhood as what I would call a live able area like Mayberry. We love our neighbors. We love that we have a park. We love that we can get downtown easily. I have a bus stop in front of my home. I get to have the trash, the graffiti everything that comes from that, but I wanted to live in the area because I love the area. Don’t destroy my street because the people that love Sugar House love it the way it is and we don’t want to see it destroyed by commercial venture and commercial creep up 21st South. That’s not what we want and that’s not why we moved there. Please understand how we are passionate about where we live and where we want to shop and where we want to be in our life and that’s all. Thank you. David Gall Jeff woodberry Deb Henry Mr. Mayor council members thank you very much for this opportunity of expressing my own personal opinion about the plan for the streetcar along 1100thEast. In my opinion this is not a streetcar named Desire. It is a streetcar that is undesirable. I think by virtue of the opinions and this may not be a public survey here tonight, but I think the opinions are extremely important. If you are counting the opinions as I have done for the last hour there are 21 nays and there are 7 yeas. In my opinion that is important and I’m hoping that one of the previously gentlemen here who emphatically talked about listening. I hope you are listening to this because I think it’s very significant. One of the other things that I’d like to mention is that my wife and I when we moved here to Salt Lake City eight years ago we had a choice. We had a choice of living anywhere within the state. We chose to live in Sugar House for a number of reasons. First of all the community effect that it has on a number of people living within Sugar House. The proximity to a number of wonderful parks in the area. The proximity to the downtown area which is certainly very, very vital. I think that by adding additional traffic along 1300th East – pardon me 1100th East, is going to do nothing but cause people aggravation in terms of being able to commute. I thinks it’s going to become very undesirable. My wife and I are both tax payers. We’re permanent residents. We’re not here for a semester for a year we’re not here for four years. We are permanent tax payers and because of that we are extremely vocal within our community and we certainly participate very actively. We do not want to see the extension along 1100th East. These are tax dollars. I understand that there are grants from the federal government. Let’s be prudent in terms of how we spend that money. We are not on the dole. If we use those tax dollars we will eventually have to pay for that in some form or other. Again there are only two guaranties in life death and taxes. Hi! I’m Jeff Woodberry I live at 2240 South 2300 East. I’m a property owner in Sugar House. I’m a streetcar advocate. I was a streetcar nay sayer until I went to Portland with the council and the Mayor. I saw that it didn’t increase traffic. I saw that it worked well with traffic on the streets. I mean they’re like buses in effect. I went thinking just the opposite. We talked to businesses. We talked to property owners. We talked to people in the neighborhoods. The people in the neighborhoods had all the concerns that all of you had, but it actually worked out to be an improvement. Last week I was in Dallas and they have a new streetcar system in Dallas. I looked at the access to Walters Park which is a new park created there. Literally thousand of new people that don’t live in the neighborhood were getting access to that park. It was a tremendous thing to see. In my viewpoint it’s all about getting people out of cars and getting them on convenient mass transit. So I’m actually for where ever we’re going to get the most rider ship that’s what I’m for. Personally I’d love it to go up 21st because that’s where I live and I want to get on the streetcar from the stand point. I don’t want you to wait and delay. I want this to get going. I want people to learn how to ride the streetcar and I think it could be a good thing. I think it will improve the neighborhood as it does in Portland and Dallas of which I’ve seen with my own eyes. Thank you. Hi! My name is Deb Henry and I’m a member and trustee of the Sugar House Community Council. Just for some background on my comments. I have a degree in civil engineering with the transportation public policy focus. I have worked directly in road construction on projects exactly like this, but now I’m focused on public policy that improves our air and the cohesiveness of our relationships in our community. I bought my house specifically my first priority to be in proximity to transit because I knew it would maintain or dramatically improve it’s value with proximity to such valuable infrastructure. I am disappointed in the members of my community who would compromise their air quality by rejecting public transit and subjecting innocent children to increase rates of cancer and asthma. Personally I prefer 21st South I know the study folders was 1100th East. I’m very concerned because of the models used in the study to evaluate the roots have a hard time qualifying and quantifying the value of a destination like Sugar House Park . Just as on the side Central Park in New York City was just valued by an appraisal firm at $528 billion dollars. The Sugar House hopefully within the next thee years a park that will continue to grow in value. Further more we have the opportunity to have an entire high school full of kids fall in love with the social and economic freedom of public transit just like I did as a child. The streetcar will allow these students own independence and automobiles. I’m against the 1100th East for reason which you’ve heard a lot of tonight, but my main concerns that this whole conversation has a lack of public support in general. We’re compromising the public health process and losing our capacity to come to a consensus as a community through dialogue. Thank you. Mike Christianson Steve Joyce William Hackens Don Thorpe Thank you. I’m a student at the University of Utah studying transportation planning so I could literally talk here for hours and probably put everyone to sleep. One of the things I’ve observed here tonight is that there is – there tends to be a great resistance to change. Which I think is kind of bad because everything in life changes. One of the things that’s bound to happen very soon is the price of our gasoline will continue to keep rising as oil becomes more and more scarce. So we need to find transportation alternatives. I would really like to see the streetcars return to the entire city. I would really like to see a master plan that would show residents the – how that entire network would work and how it would serve the city and make the city a more resilient in the face of change. With that being said as far as the options on the table right now I do prefer 1100th East because it does make the most sense form a transportation planning perspective. It is the neighborhood that is most like the streetcar neighborhoods that I’ve observed in Portland. Thank you. Thank you. I’m Steve Joyce I live on Hollywood Avenue in a 100 year old bungalow about a block west of the proposed 11th East extension. I’m against that extension for a lot of the reasons that have been previously mentioned. It’s a narrow street two lanes not much parking. Not much room to expand it if that was considered. Right now it seems to be best served as a two lane road with bike routes. I’m not necessarily in favor of going up 21st South without a plan. That’s been mentioned a lot. I’d like the council to remember that you still have the option of stopping or stop now. Making a loop through the business district south of 21st South if that’s necessary to turn it around and serving that area. That will keep the streetcar within three to six blocks of pretty much anywhere in central Sugar House. That includes Westminster. Lastly I’d like to point out that if we’re going to call this a streetcar it probably aught to look like a streetcar and not a tracks train. I think that would contribute to the acceptability and the quality of life issues that a lot of people who live in Sugar House to experience. Thank you. I need to put these a petition. That’s over 200 signatures against it on the 21st South corridor. The proposal that you guys drew I don’t think that you’ve ever thought about going up Citizen Avenue. Then the south side of the park to 17th. That would relieve access you would be able to go up between he freeway and the golf course to the mouth of Parley’s canyon. Also it would give access to the park and through the business district there on Simpson Avenue. I don’t know if you’ve ever thought of that, but I mean that’s an alternative to 21st South and 11th East both all right? If you can’t do it – I don’t see – on 11th east you’re going to lose maybe 40 trees or something like that to the expansion of the tracks line down that corridor. Up 21st South you get one of the fifth busiest intersections at 21st South and 13th East in the city. Then it’s just – it doesn’t make sense to expand down 11th East and lose all the businesses that will go out of business because of this. Basically if you want the Highland High School to kids to go they can walk one block the other way and get on it, but that makes sense if you want to expand into Parley’s Canyon and get there the easiest way is up the south side of the park between the freeway and the park all the way up. Then if you need to turn left you can go up 23red East which is a wider street or you can come back down Foothill Boulevard. That’s an alternative to your two different processes. Thank you. My name is John Thorpe and I’ve lived on 11th East for almost 40 years. When we first moved there the street was fairly quiet and it was fairly easy to get in and out of our driveway. Now you have to wait for four five or ten minutes to get out of your own driveway. I wonder what this trolley is going to do to that congestion there. I can’t see it getting better by adding a trolley. I’m also concerned about property value and of course the parking. Especially it would just be a lot more activity on the street which would detract from the residential area. So I am opposed to the trolley and that’s all I have to say. Thank you. Laurie Bryant Joe Mandel Tyler Christianson Todd Olsen Mr. Mayor, council members I’ve lived in the Sugar House area – can you hear me now? Okay. I’ve lived in the Sugar House area for 13 years. I had my choice of places to move to when I came from Wyoming and I chose this neighborhood. I’m opposed to the 11th Street east route for the Sugar House streetcar my concern is that the 11th East route like the bike routes has benefits that fall disproportionately on elite groups while all of us pay for it’s benefits fall primarily on people who have the time to take mass transit. It takes longer to take the streetcar than to drive a short errand. It costs more money. I can drive to the Post Office in about three minutes in a car that gets 32 miles per gallon in the city. I’m not going to buy a transit fair. The benefits fall proportionately on people who are able bodied young and capable of riding bikes, walking some distance and carrying an armload of packages. I’m not old, but I can’t do all the that. The last time I went to my box at the Post Office where I go about three times and no one’s mentioned the Post Office in the traffic that has to go in and out of the Post Office. What are you going to do about that? The last time I went to the Post Office to pick up a parcel it was my son’s Mac desktop with the 27 inch monitor. I’m not carrying that on the streetcar and I don’t know anybody who would. (Timer beep) Hello I’m Joel Mandel and I’m a part owner of a business up on 21st and active member of the 21st business district. I feel – I’m an advocate of the streetcar let me tell you first off. But I feel that 21st proposed line would benefit the 21st21st business district better than going down 11th East. Being a business owner I know I would not want my street ripped up and the accessibility to my business being taken away from me for however long because I know I’d probably go under. That’s pretty much all I have to say. Good evening. I’ve lived in the impacted area my whole life. First 21st and 21st now 17th and 17th. This is a multigenerational decision as you know and we’ve got to get the big picture right as a community. That’s our greatest challenge I think. If we get it right this can become like the Highline Trail in New York revitalizing a very interesting area. If we get it wrong we’ll create pockets of light. Listening to the remarks of the people I’d just like to propose some questions. One has been posed off to what is the master plan? The second question which I’d like to pose is would we able to achieve pricing parity for families in terms of motivating them to use the streetcar versus driving? Next question is should or could it be integrated with the draw at all? That’s one I haven’t heard discussed. I don’t know if that’s a possibility or feasibility integrated more with the draw. Next question that comes to my mind is could it ever go under 13th to address some of the concern of the community in having to go along 21st? Then the other question is could it ever go along the north edge of Sugar House Park? Again, trying to reach sort of a compromise allowing to address some of the concerns of the community. Then the other question I have is a long term goal for this to be a circulating group or a point to point? You know we look at other communities we’ve seen success of a circulating loop. We’ve also seen success of point to point and I’d love to hear more dialogue on that point as long term do we see that as being more of a circulating or a point to point. Then my gut reaction though is that having lived there my whole life it makes complete to extend it a minimum to 13th and then to do further exploratory research beyond that. Thank you. Good evening council. My name is Todd Olsen. I’m a property owner and business owner in Sugar House area. I’ve reviewed both proposals. I like the East proposal it goes up to Sugar House Park, Highland High School the potential development and hopefully eventually Foothill. I like the north line how it goes to Westminster the different neighborhoods and eventually to tracks to the University of Utah and downtown. So really I think we should both. Really I’m here to support the streetcar. I’ve been to Portland I’ve seen the benefits first hand. The resident’s benefit. Business owners benefit. Property developer benefit. All benefit and I know Sugar House and Salt Lake City is going to benefit. I’m excited to see the streetcar come to Sugar House and beyond. I understand growth is a painful process change is difficult, but the streetcar is a good thing and is a benefit to the community. The most important thing I think is a decision does need to be made and it does need to be moved on beyond Sugar House. So I look forward to seeing your decision and hopefully moving the streetcar to Highland High would be the next thing. Thank you. Raquel Ramon Steven Rosenberg Randy Baker Claudia Johnson Good evening. I just think we should start with maybe a subway. We can just take it off the street all together and we can handle this problem. Not really obviously. I grew up in Sugar House and I also have two jobs ironically are both on 11th East. I’m also a patron of Boxing Is For Girls as well as an employee there. I’d like to make a brief testimonial about Boxing Is For Girls and the 11th East area and the second home that’s it’s become to me. While I can’t amuse you with the juicy details. Believe me when I say that the people I’ve met there have transformed my life for the better. They have heartfelt concern for each other and have flocked to support the community the 11th East area Boxing Is For Girls. Residents and patrons alike and I’d like to share briefly a sample of what they have help create in that area and it’s titled Beacon. Centered in an attitude of blessings we become automatic miracle workers. People feel up lifted and energized along with us. Subconsciously corrected and healed in our presence. A palpable more positive atmosphere prevails. When we reach for the highest within ourselves people around us feel called to their highest and that is the beacon which every sole is looking for. I would hate to see the people miss the opportunity to transform their lives the way that I have because the construction of a streetcar on 1100th East would compromise that. I have a few concerns. A lot of them have already been mentioned so I won’t reiterate, but briefly it’s very narrow and congested. The overflow of traffic into the residential areas obviously those people will not be please with the parking and traffic that would be diverted to them. The construction period 11th East being a one lane road for the next two to five years. How are these local businesses going to thrive? Once again parking during the construction phase it’s already a mess it’s already difficult to find. Are we going to cut into the sidewalks and yards I don’t know what the details of that are, but I would just ask that you take all of these things into consideration. (Time beep Mayor Becker and City Council thanks for this opportunity to just share my support for the streetcar idea. For many in the public who don’t know there was an urban streetcar along the Jordan in Salt Lake and now right of way over a hundred years ago. I think it was visionary then. I think it’s unfortunate that was ever stopped, but I think we need to do it. I think the density coming to Sugar House is going to make us wish it was already there. As the father of a child with asthma breathing the air here in the winter we have think beyond the car. So those are my two cents. Thank you. I’m Randy Baker I live at 1109 Harvard Avenue. As a point of reference on the corner of 11th East and 1100th South and Red Butte Creek goes through my back yard. I have a new back yard thanks to Chevron that are very responsible. I’m here to say I oppose the 11th East extension for the reasons that many people have said. I’d just like to say one thing with regard to the process. Please listen to the public. You’re public servants and you represent us. I appreciate the opportunity of giving input this evening. If people say no they do not want a streetcar on 11th East please listen to the people. Thank you. I am Claudia Johnson. I am a long time resident of the Sugar House area in fact my whole life. I’ve had two houses and I grew up in the area. I’ve watched the community 11th East used to be two lanes going into Sugar House and two lanes going out of Sugar House. I’ve watched the modernization where it was cut down to only one lane and more traffic. I’ve watched 13th East doing the exact same thing two lanes in two lanes out now it’s one lane and it’s more traffic. I do not want to see any kind of changes in the Sugar House area. I like change. I’m not opposed to change, but I have also grown up where we used to walk to Sugar House. We used to walk to the JC Penney’s and all the other merchant stores that are up in the same areas that right now are there but different stores in a different configuration. So nothing’s change except people are less likely to walk. There’s no reason why we have to promote those students for the U.S. Minister bus 17 goes from tracks all the way up to the university. It hits Salt Lake Community and Westminster and the University of Utah. I am opposed to the fact that the bus system – what will happen to 213? Does that mean there will no longer a 213 at all? So why not just increase the frequency which it used to be every 12 minutes? Then it was changed every 15 minutes. Then it was every 20 minutes and now buses run only Sean Stringham Alita Cummings Matt Christianson Let’s see if I can avoid being a little redundant. First of all I appreciate the notices that were given out for this meeting. I personally did not know that there was any kind of a discussion regarding a spur going up 21st South until I received the notices and Soren’s letter. Now Soren’s letter was a great letter, but because it was so long it took me until Sunday night to read through it. So I don’t know how many people in the neighborhood are really aware that this is being proposed. I know that a lot of people are making a lot out of the straw holes that have occurred in community council meetings. I really don’t think the residents of 21st South have any notice that there’s actually discussion of that idea. I’ve been affected by the discussions tonight because I initially came in I though well the thing to do is to avoid having 21st South so lets push it to 11th East. I think a lot of these people are trying to pursue 21st South. What I have really been convinced about tonight from listening to the comments is that’s imperative that we come up with a master plan. I don’t have any problem with Phase One. I think Phase One’s a great idea, but let’s come ups with a master plan. Let’s have the community have notice. Lets have the community have discussion about it. So that people can discuss and talk about the idea of works as a master plan of what works best. I’d like to encourage you to do that. Now two last things. I’m a parent of kids who go to Highland High. The last thing I want to see is my kids try and not hit a streetcar with our kid’s car. I’ve already fixed about three times in the last few years and I will like to avoid another collision. The other thing is you may not know that because Rosland Heights was shut down about a decade we have hundreds of children who cross 21st South to get to Dilworth Elementary to every morning, every evening going to from school. (Timer beep) So please consider that thank you. Well I expected to be the only senior citizen here speaking, but somebody beat me to that. I do want you to encourage you to remember the seniors. I mean senior I have lived in the Sugar House area for 82 years. (Applause) And we had a business in the Sugar House area for many years. So I know both sides of it and it was on 11th East. I would not want the streetcar on 11th East. Even though I live very close to 11th East, but senior citizens who need these don’t do well with a streetcar. It isn’t our kind of transportation. We need to drive and in order to do that we need parking and we need streets that are not terribly congested. I avoid 13th East especially at certain hours you don’t get any place. I also go to the gym in Sugar House. Today I took an informal survey. I didn’t find anybody in favor of the 11th East corridor. These people come all over the valley so they don’t think that’s a good idea. Several said that a streetcar should go into Sugar House and turn around and go back down. That it could stop at 10th East or stop at Hidden something park and then turn around and go back down. At least for now and that’s what they definitely favor. I sympathize with the (Timer beep) Good evening everyone. I have seen her at the gym and she can lift (laughter) so you need to listen to her. I want to start off by – I expected to come here with you guys on your iPhones , and maybe perhaps looking at playing Solitaire and things like that. I’ve never been to one of these and I’m terribly impressed. I’m glad that I’m not seeing that so thank you. I want to start off by reading a text that I sent my next door neighbor. For reference I live on 21st South directly on 21st South about 19th East. Of course our you going to the City Council meeting tonight to talk about the train line that may end up in front of our houses? Oh when is that? Tonight at seven. No I won’t be able to make it I have a Cub Pack meeting, but I’m interested to know what’s discussed. He didn’t even know about it. I didn’t know about it myself until I received both these letters. I’m glad to have received so thank you for sending them and thank you for this public forum. Can I just propose one thing? And I’m against it for the record. I’m against 11th East I’m against 21st. Can we just buy or rent a trolley line a car? Lets just rent one or buy one try it out for year. I’ll put the first $100 dollars into it I really will and I’m not saying this jokingly. Can we just rent one and count the dollars that we can actually in from this thing? I’m affected by it our property value is. I don’t want to speak selfishly because this is a community decision, but can we at least see what revenue this can even generate? I really think that that’s one approach that we can do before we tear up our infrastructure before we commit to millions and millions of dollars in debt. Lastly I rode the bus for the last two and a half years. If you count the number of people that ride the bus after 11th East going East on 21st South there’s no one in it. Everyone gets off by then. So Phase One I think is perfect it suits the need, but when you take that bus line go ask the bus drivers ask them how many people are really riding that bus east and west? (Timer beep) Thanks for you time. Kelly Marinen jovesis Beck Lauren Colby Christy Brown Kelly Marinen Hillcrest. I love the idea of streetcars being used to connect Salt Lake City with itself. Cleaner air, better public transportation a move in the right direction. I kept thinking before is this debate about making it easier for the most people to get around? Or is it more about economic development for business? Obviously it’s both. I wonder if one is more important to the streetcar’s survival or success at this early stage I don’t know. I certainly want to see it succeed and I appreciate my councilman’s involvement. I understand it’s just one leg and more are planned. I’m hoping whatever direction is chosen first doesn’t mean it will never go in the other direction too. If there is potential money available now if we move quickly I think we should go for it. I wish the north option was going just a little further. If the cars are going through established neighborhoods I wish they were more retro looking. Like for example if they were going a future historic district local historic district I think that would be cool. I personally like the idea of people in district six some day riding it to the Peace Gardens and visiting west side restaurants hoping they’ll get out of their cars and start embracing the Mayor’s complete streets philosophy. So that maybe before I’m too old I’ll be able to safely ride my bicycle to and from my own post office instead of having to go into Sugar House. I want what makes the most sense for the whole city wanting as many as possible to be able to benefit from the streetcars. Wanting it to succeed wishing we already had it fully planned out and completed thanks. Mr. Mayor City Council good morning. My name is Joran Beck and I’m a resident of Sugar House community as well as a Westminster College student. So those who say that Westminster students should whole-heartedly support the streetcar on 11th East. We are here to not just no to it. As well as many more people who were unable to make it tonight. I’m speaking on behalf of these girls tonight as well as on mine. Hi I got a letter thank you. This is the first time I got a letter from you guys. I live in the Brickyard of Sugar House just inside Salt Lake City 3117 Lincoln street. I personally don’t understand fully why we need to take the trolley all the way up to 11th East and on to 9th and 9th. The Sugar House trolley 9th and 9th is not Sugar House. There’s not very much support for it either. I personally would like to see it go down to the Brickyard that’s near where I live and I think that it would better benefit the community by going to that shopping center. It would serve two shopping centers in the Sugar House neighborhood. Also I don’t understand why we’re in my opinion jumping the gun. We’re already looking to expand the network and we haven’t even opened the trolley that we have. There’s only one rail line on that trolley that isn’t opened yet. In my opinion we should add a second line after it’s opened to see how it’s working. If it’s working add the second line and then talked – start talking about how to expand this throughout the neighborhood of Sugar House not 9th and 9th. If 9th and 9th wants one 9th and 9th can have one, but if the trolley is going to 9th and 9th then it’s no Sugar House trolley it’s 9th and 9th trolley and this is Sugar House. So thank you. My husband and I a restoring 1889 Victorian on the corner of 10th East and Garfield Avenue which is 1850 South. We have two young children. We are concerned at first that our love for old houses may not jive with our needs for a safe family friendly neighborhood. But we’ve been thrilled with our wonderful neighbors and local friends and have seen a minimal amount of crime. One challenge we did not anticipate was the every increasing traffic on 10th East. We’ve witnessed many close calls at the intersection of 10the East and Garfield and three actual collisions. One of which resulted in the car landing in our front yard where our children play. A concerned neighbor whose pre-teen son walks along 10the East to the skateboard park almost daily was successful in getting the yield signs changed to stop signs at the 10th East intersections. This has resulted in some improvement. I’ve been very concerned about the increase in traffic to 200 condos I heard it was 200 not sure of the number going up at 21st and Highland will surely bring into the neighborhood. When I heard about the streetcar potentially running down 1100th East I figured we were doomed. As it seems certain that impatient drivers will quickly find the 10th East as a faster and more peaceful option. Right now 10th East is a haven for pedestrians, bikers and permanent residents of the neighborhood who want to keep a peaceful safe neighborhood feel. So I’m concerned about the ripple effect of a streetcar running 11th East. I also just wanted to second the idea that someone mentioned early on about a rubber tire streetcar. I mean that was kind of met with laughs maybe it would only be a temporary solution until there’s a master plan. We moved here from old town Park City and that is what they have there a bus that’s made to look exactly like a streetcar (Time Beep) which is wildly successful. Thank you. Ryan Mcewin Dan Washburn I want to thank everyone for this process. Mayor thank you for your time. I’ve been taking notes throughout the night. I came totally uneducated by any side that was going presented. It’s obvious what is happening as the public process. I just hope that the public is part of the process and we’re truly paying attention to what we need to have. We all link new shiny toys. I think the street sweeper outside is cool, but it’s kind of smoke and mirrors I think to a process that’s a bigger process than we are willing to admit today. I want to reflect on a few words of the night quaint, quiet, damage, uniformed, short sited, functionality, year round and preserve. Then the concept of a streetcar. Lets not decorate it. It’s a train its just no necessarily advertised as a train. Okay how many people have died on the UTA tracks since it’s been it in this. All of it’s precautions and everything people have been mowed down and operators are still in psychological rehab for killing people by them stepping in front of the train. So that’s another problem I see in this. The local foot traffic the lady with the book store we can take a look at local foot traffic McIntosh moved to the downtown rising store. Their sales plummeted. Now they’re fashion places and selling through the roof. No body wants to go to the new ECMI Center so I don’t think it was downtown rising. I think it was downtown floating and possibly start to sink. So I want to make sure that that’s clear. The Sugar House business district connecting it to the Foothill density makes a lot more sense than trying to have like a 711 stop or the Utah Aids Center stop. Not only that continuing north how are you going to join it on 4th South? Drop it down to 9th East where there’s already plenty of transit plenty of traffic. It doesn’t make any sense to try and bend it around that corner on 4th South and try and make that work as oppose to connecting it to a very dense population right there at the foot of Parley’s Canyon and sending it north on Foothill to get rid of the parking lot effect that takes (Time beep) the University of Utah district. I thank you for the opportunity to be here. I represent the Dodo restaurant and right now I can say whether you go on 11th or 21st whoever owns a business in the area is planning on a two year vacation or losing hundreds of thousands of dollars because that’s what’s going to happen. I think that 21 and 21 business owners we’re going to be hurt. Then if it goes up 21st or it goes down 11th it doesn’t matter what direction we go it’s going to kill all the businesses unless we all have some fat pockets and want to lose a lot of money because it’s the only choice that we’re being given here. The only reason for a choice here is for us to make a choice. Our choice really should be not to choose. Either one of these decisions you know the home owners and I don’t know where – what studies you’ve done with Portland or San Francisco or New York or wherever these studies are coming out of, but I can see a free ride of anybody coming to our Sugar House neighborhood until whenever the tracks stop at eleven o’clock. I don’t know if crime rates have increased with outsiders coming in and if I have a home in that area, I have a business in that area and the foot traffic keeps coming in and coming in from the city. More and more graffiti and more and more crime is happening in our areas. We don’t need to spend the money. I don’t know why we’re forcing this tracks to come into our area. We don’t need it. We’re thriving, we’re growing, and we’re expanding without it. The bus system, bikes, people walking, people parking outside of Sugar House and walking in. We’re growing and thriving as businesses without this and to push this down our throats you’re going to kill all of us small businesses. Then the developers are going to come in (Timer beep) with trying to take it away from us. So don’t make a choice. Brent Valeria Klein Helen Peters You got it quite right actually so congratulations most people don’t. Thanks for your time. A resident that’s lived 11 years in the neighborhood of this streetcar will bisect. I think it’s important that I speak for myself, my family and my neighborhood. I’ve spoken to a lot of people in the neighborhood who share my opinion obviously I don’t represent everyone but I think it’s a pretty good majority that I do represent. I’m not sure that I understand what the plan is to make a streetcar work on such a narrow thorough fair as 11th East. My concern is that whether the street will be widened or left alone whatever happens the result will be the same. A horribly clogged intersection and 21st and 11th. Backups north south east and west on these arteries. Significantly greater idling of vehicles and a less inviting environment for pedestrian traffic. Further congest on 11th East will only force more traffic onto an already overburdened 9th East and presumably 13th East. Not to mention right onto 10th East like a good neighbor of mind just explained to us. This is problematic for a family like mine with small children for two reason. The congestion is going to lead to more pollution. A pollution which by the way can literally be wiped from the surfaces of our houses within just 24 hours of them being cleaned. This is the air our children are forced to breathe. Don’t underestimate the closer you are to 9th East the worse it is. We can’t be putting more people onto 9th East and more traffic there. It’s just not going to work with our kids. The other reason is traffic along 9th East is already a major problem more or less unregulated. Yes rush hour traffic’s going to slow down and contribute to more micro local pollution. Outside of rush hour if traffic is forced to 9th East it simply means higher volumes of speeding traffic. This is problematic for families like mine with small children. The traffic not only speeds along through the neighborhood. Typically moving at a high velocity and not paying attention to children and other pedestrian traffic. (Time beep) Thanks. Good evening Mr. Mayor, City Council I appreciate your time and the efforts of the community as well. When I moved to – first of all I want to address the people that had been to Portland where I was raised about the streetcar. I just wanted to inform you about the differences in the weather there. It’s just a very different area. After there and attending college her in Utah I moved to New York City because I love to walk love to walk. I’ve been a home owner on Yale Avenue right above 9th East on about I don’t know 12 or 13 years. I love to walk in the neighborhood. My only concern is the noise level because the windows are open in the summer time and I don’t like to use the air conditioning and things. A fine breeze in the evenings and things and the trees that are going to be lost in Sugar Hills Park because the streets act as such a sound barrier. I heard this evening that we might be having more trees lost on 11th East. I was there I’m very excite about the trolley line that has been laid so far. On the 4th of July people can come and fan out. Get off walk through the businesses. People don’t need to be coddled and dropped at the Universities. I didn’t even have a car when I went to the university myself. But dropped at door of their school at the door of the parks and things like that. Walking a little in New York City which is as Salt Lake becomes more and more dense we walk in New York City. It’s not like a big door to door service and that is what keeps the New Yorkers healthy and strong. I would like to see that encouraged here in Utah. The workability aspect of the Sugar House from 9th and 9th area which I live closer I can easily walk and enjoy a walk to Sugar House area. It’s a little bit far for me to walk up to go Red Navo or up to 21st and 21st or to Pearcot or something. So that would be a little bit more difficult for me but to be able to walk where (Time beep) walk on 11th East just having that walk able aspect a quiet peaceful atmosphere is important. Thank you very much. I’m Helen Peters I’m Chair of the friends of the Sugar House and south Salt Lake streetcar. Our mission, our vision is to help the corridor the streetcar corridor become a premier public space. We’ve been doing that for approximately two years at this point. We had a meeting and discussion amongst ourselves as to the alternative that we would like to put forward supporting. At this point we participated in the alternatives analysis and the public hearings. Commenting upon the alternatives presented. Tonight we are interested in putting forth the 11th East as the alternative that we support. Phases IIA, IIB and IIC. We feel like that the 11th East gives the option to connect the Sugar House area with the downtown area and places in between. Assuming that there was master plan to make that connection. Because of the recent revival the economic revival in Sugar House that this would help support that effort by connecting two pieces. The Sugar House business district along with the Salt Lake City core business district. The 21st South option for us was more of a regional corridor and needed a different sort of treatment a different sort of piece of equipment to service those areas. We felt that was more of a regional whereas the 11th East and the streetcar was more of a local community sort of thing. Thank you. Lori Duncomb Katie Wagner David Campbell Laura Duncomb. I live on 17th East 2317 South. So I would be impacted. I would like to not maybe go over everything that you’ve already heard but a couple of true ups. I’ve heard people visit Portland. I lived in Portland. I lived by one of these and wasn’t the glorious pretty party dress that if you go visit it that you see. It increased the theft in the area having that transit line coming out. So the rural areas became a target. It was noisy and it was a problem. The thing that I would really like to hit is what I have not seen in this proposal is the economic study. Where is the economics? Whose going to pay for it? How will it be sustained? What is the long tern sustained plan? Where are these dollars coming from? I’m already experiencing the overflow of traffic where I live. My noise level has gone up. I can’t sit on my front porch any more and talk because of the noise and congestion. If we’re going to do something I really want to understand economics behind it. I want to know from all the things that we’ve done on helping the bicycle paths. Where has been to go back and re-evaluation to ensure that those paths are being used to their full extents. On this issue of pollution if you read the information that was the idle time went up three times for the vehicle traffic. So three times is going to put out quite a bit more emissions just from the standby and idling. Thanks Absolutely, my name’s Katie Wagner. I want to thank you for listening. I really can’t speak for anybody else’s perspective but I can tell how this would change my behavior personally. I live at 1209 East Gilmore. One of the things that really struck out to me when the streetcar proposal was going in was wow it’s going to be a nice feeling to jump on the streetcar. Go down to Sugar House area grab a couple drinks and not have to worry about hitting road back home. I definitely think that would change my behavior, but also allow me to take the streetcar to work. It would allow me to take the streetcar down to Whole Foods to purchase groceries and come back. The businesses that I frequent in Sugar House would actually probably increase. My frequency of visiting them especially around Christmas time I do avoid Sugar House around Christmas time because it’s very crazy there and difficult to find a parking spot. From my perspective that’s how it would change my behavior. Thanks for your time. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to the city council. I appreciate your efforts what we see of politicians in the media you get more than your share. Anyway in reference to my family. We’ve grown up in the Sugar House area for over 120 years. A great aunt who passed away not too long ago at her funeral it was mentioned that she saw tracks twice. John Pegry lived behind me as I was growing up. I remember doing a paper in high school about mass transit. I lived in Iceland a few years of my life. I saw truly an incredible mass transit system that the buses were powered by – I’m not a science person so. It was renewable energy. I’ve also sent he electric trains and electric buses in Europe. The one thing that kind of gets me here. If we’re doing something without a master plan that’s kind of like already prior aimed. That’s when I took hunter safety at Dillworth Elementary. I don’t own a gun it’s just for medical work. Okay and it seems that what’s going to happen is when the traffic fills up there’s the path of least resistance. I’m a business owner and I’m also a property owner. I see what happens in the ally ways especially on a Friday afternoon. Cars go zipping through the ally ways I don’t see a lot of the overflow has been addressed. The other thing that kind of scares me here is we talked about the city beautification process. I’m a graduate or the University of Utah as well as Westminster College. The lessons from the past I saw what happened to Main Street. I worked at Sam Wellers my senior year in college. First their was the beautification and then they put tracks down. (Time beep) The one thing I do know is the Laura Braise Christian Johnson Mark Williamson Yeah thank you. I’m a trustee on the Sugar House Community Council. I would like to use this as a lesson for we need a better PR department. I have been astonished at the community council meetings how uninformed people are and tonight there is still people uninformed. They’re saying lots of things. It’s misinformation that’s really disheartening to me. KUTV came out and did a story on the protestors and they completely had the Phase I alignment incorrect. That’s where a lot of people are getting their information. So regardless of the route that is chosen. I think that it is so important that we spend money on television commercials because people are not getting the information out. Finally at the last stage they did, but very disheartening to me. I prefer the 1100th East route. We started Sugar House Art Walk about a year and a half ago. We put artists in local business and I am typically at Herbana yet I have a storage area at Rockwood art studios where I did have a photography studio. It took less time for me to take my large photographs along with my big dog that I was walking and walk for Rockridge Urbana twice much less time than drives. The congestion on 1100th East is ridiculous and in my opinion the streetcar would diminish that I hope. I have not heard anyone talk Sugar House Crossing or 2100 Sugar House tonight. So there’s 40 to 50 thousand square feet of retail going in on the corner there plus 200 apartments. A lot of the retail’s already opened on McClellan to 2100th South. There’s no parking available there any more. So people are going to be forced to walk now which is great. I hope eventually the streetcar goes in both directions, but I think people are kind of being short sided about what’s going to happen on their street. (Timer Beep) Thank you. Hello my name’s Christian Johnson. I’m a small business owner multi-property owner in the Sugar House area. I’ve sat here all night patiently along with everybody else thank you for your time. I just wanted to recap quickly we had approximately 44 against and 16 for's for the streetcar down 11th. Between the petitions that were submitted that brings a total of 1809 people that voted either in the written or spoken form against the streetcar. I grew up in the San Francisco Bay area. I have taken public transportation most of my adult life until I moved here. While I miss the public transportation I like the walking environment. This is something that Sugar House provides. There is very few walking communities in our city. I would prefer to see a train run down 7th East. Thank you Just real quick I’m Mark Williamson. I’m with Sterling Furniture and we sent you guys a copy of the petition that we had. We Sterling Furniture has been in Sugar House since the ‘40s. Basically Sugar House was a second grow up place for me as a family corporation. But we do have over 30 apartments and family residential in our area there as well as 11 businesses. I would like to reiterate on the economics I don’t think that has really spelled out. We are opposed to it. The businesses that lease from us and most of the residents are opposed to it on 11th East. As of May 3, 2013 at 12:00 noon these comments include: emails, letters, voice messages, and written comment cards from the April 23 meeting name comments Ellie Goldberg I am trying to keep an open mind about the changes proposed for the area around 1100 East and 2100 South. The intersection is already congested, especially when heading north on Highland. Reducing the number of lanes will make matters worse. Moreover, channeling the traffic to 1300 East makes little sense since that intersection is also already very congested. Consequently, the idea of adding a street car route north-south on 1100 East to 1700 South will likely make matters worse as backed-up lines of traffic will have to wait even longer as the train passes through. Finally, short spurs like the one proposed along 1100 East are unlikely to garner much use. People can walk from 2100 South to 1700 South in the time it takes to wait for a train. My vote is to extend the streetcar line to 1700 South! I would prefer that the line run along 1100 E to 1700 S as planned. I will certainly utilize the transportation! Clint Perschon I think the proposed extension along 1100 E and 1700 South makes the most sense for traffic prevention in Sugarhouse. Thank you. Robert mayer Travis Slagle David Kelly Rhea Lisonbee Steven Seftel Lauren Johnson I think that the streetcar should start by going up 1100 east towards Westminster and the University of Utah. This would then tie it in with trax on 400 South and make it a much more usable transportation option. I also think that the next step after that is to run trax up Parley's Canyon to lessen the amount of traffic and pollution on I-80 and truly make SLC the easiest place for a ski vacation. Please look at the big picture. I am also vehemently opposed to Ski Link. So please address this issue when you have time. It needs to go east at least to Sugarhouse Park. Then south to 2700 up to Imperial and comtinue to 33 rd to Brickyard at Highland, then on to Sugarhouse. Brickyard has a lot of space for a turn around too.if you really want to make it viable for people in the neighborhoods this is the area we all circulate around. Concerning expanded routing for the Sugarhouse streetcar, I would like to see it keep the original recommended plan of turning North on 1100 East and terminating at 1700 South. This would provide usable service to Westminster College. I would hope it would not create traffic delays, though. I am a student at Westminster College, and I know that if the Streetcar goes by 11th and 17th, Westminster Students would use it regularly. Right now, we are far from any Trax line, and it makes a lot of sense to connect us in with the train system, especially since we have a lot of commuter students. Judi Short from 2100 south to Sugarmont. Please approve this, we need this to be a nice, welcoming entrance to the business district. Right now, it is pretty scary once the sun sets. Since this streetcar line will open in the dead of winter, the lights need to happen. The City should also spend some time making sure the Business District is "tuned up" for the arrival of the streetcar. Things look pretty shabby right now, and I realize a lot of construction is going on, but perhaps the crosswalks could be painted, parking space could be painted, see if all signs are in place (the one at McClelland and 2100 south was laying in the street last week) graffiti is gone, public things that need paint, like fire hydrants, bus stops, the silly concrete couches, etc. Thanks! -- Judi Short 801.487.7387 h 801.864.7387 c Patricia Franz Hello, I live at 1776 Hollywood Ave, just 2 blocks north from 2100 South. I just received a flyer showing the proposed expansion of the Sugar House Streetcar. I vote NO for adding a 2100 South (starting at 1100 East and heading east). My reasons are as follows: 1. The impact this will have on the neighborhood alone will be horribly detrimental to home owners in that area. Our homes will instantly decrease in value. 2. What about the cost to widen the street from 1700 E and up towards Parleys. (Our tax dollars at work? Cut the elderly or school funding?) 3. How many homes will be affected along 2100 South in that stretch? If you have surveyed the area you know 2100 South goes from quite wide, beginning at 1300 E, but at 1700 E it becomes a one lane road. 4. Are houses going to be condemned so they can be sold at a lower price? 5. Are you going to cut off a major portion of the homeowners front property to make room for Trax and car traffic? These are just a few of the concerns many of us in this area have regarding your proposal.. Also, how do I get a say in what goes on at Salt Lake City Council? I am very interested having a voice in what happens in my area. Thank you, Scott Christensen These street cars/light rails aren't ecofriendly/green. There is a coal fired power plant belching out tons of pollution to provide electricity for them. People who think they are have deceived themselves by saying because the pollution isn't in my neighborhood it clean. The street cars themselves give off noise pollution and the vibrations affect all the buildings and structures around them. Why do you think the West side has worked so hard to get rail lines out of our neighborhoods. Why do you think they shut down the line that used to be there. 700 East used to have lots of street cars along it from the Trolley Square turn around. Think people, why did they remove this transportation option? If you go ahead with this, good luck. Mamta Chadhari I am a Westminster College Alum and am very interested in where the streetcar route will be. I think that it is very important for Westminster students to be able to use the streetcar. Westminster has a clean air initiative and encourages students to use public transit. This would make it easier for students to do that. I know if this were available when I attended school, I would have used it as much as I could. Please allow the streetcar to take the 1100 East 1700 South route. Clare Hunter Irene Erickson I am opposed to the Sugarhouse Street car going east up 2100 South. The automobile traffic is quite heavy and the road needs to remain four lanes. I do not support trying to bring more business to the residential area east of 1600 East. There currently is a business on the corner of 1800 East and 2100 South and the employees and clients cause a problem regarding parking on the residential side streets around the business. Would prefer for the streetcar to go to the 1700 e on 2100 s instead of the 1100 e section because this area is way to conjested. It would be great to have a street car go to highland high school to sugarhouse park. Elaine Brown City Council Members: Remember these lyrics from the Don MacLean song: 'They would not listen, they're not listening still. Perhaps they never will...' With my apologies to Charlie Luke for whom I voted and respect, Kyle LaMalfa, and Carlton Christensen, who all appear to have some common sense, I have no use for the rest of the group, and with that faction and Becker as Mayor, it is all a lost cause. Like the Parley's Way Walmart issue, the latter will do as they please regardless of the will of the voters. So be it. Please don't contact me again, and for the record, as far as I am concerned, Sugar House ends at 1700 East 2100 South, and, I could care less what happens west of there. I avoid the Sugar House business district like the plague, and will continue to do so. As for the streetcar, I have made my comments anonymously on Open City Hall, and have no interest in ever attending any more so-called 'public input' meetings--been there/done, e.g., Walmart. Elaine Brown District 6 PS I have tried to remove myself from all of this type of communication, so please do not contact me again. Alexandra Monjar Anonymous Brian Murphy I want to voice my support for the 11th East route for the Sugarhouse Streetcar. I was a student at Westminster College and commuted via public transportation from Kaysville, UT for 4 years. While I was able to commute, it was terribly inconvenient, with multiple transfers, and it took nearly 4 hours round trip. If the streetcar were to connect with Trax via the 11th East route, students who are in a similar position as I was will have a much more efficient way of commuting from both the southern and northern end of the Wasatch Front. The 11th East proposal would not only benefit commuting students of Westminster College, but students who live near or on campus especially those without cars. Students are one of the primary riders of public transportation and the 11th East line makes more sense with those riders in mind. It also makes more sense for promoting public transit as a means to access local businesses, restaurants, and bars in the Sugarhouse neighborhood, and the 9th and 9th neighborhood. I hope that the 11th East route is chosen for the health of the community and for the benefit of students in the area. An anonymous constituent left a message regarding the 1100 East option for the streetcar. The constituent states that 1300 East has become a "nightmare" since it was reduced to one lane. This has caused people to use 1100 East as an alternative and made traffic a mess. She encourages you to not vote for the 1100 East option. Would like to streetcar to go through 1100 East. John Rasumuson I favor the existing proposal to extend the streetcar route along 1100 East to 1700 South. The commercial character of 1100 East between 2100 South and 1700 South is conducive and there is the connection with the Westminster campus which adds value. To the Sugar House Community Council, I Bill Cordray think that the monument plaza should be a stop on the line. Since I understand that there would be no need for a turnaround, there doesn't need to be a closure of the plaza as a pedestrian mall. Isn't it a small trolley car, without deep tracks, which people can easily cross? Apparently, the driver just goes to the other end of the car and drives from there without the need for a turnaround space. Since it is slower than Trax or even a bus, pedestrian conflicts would be minimal. My arguments for choosing an eastbound route up 21st South versus Northbound on 11th East: Against 11th East: This street is congested with only one lane each way. You'd have to have stops on both sides, blocking traffic that is already slow. Westminster students could just as easily catch the trolley at 12th East and 21st South as at 11th East and 17th South. Since many students reside in apartments such as the Draw, Irving, and others close to 21st South, their walking distance to a 12th East 21st So. stop is shorter. For 21st South: this street is wider and less congested, despite the long lights at 13th East. It would serve Westminster College more easily than the Brain May Good Afternoon My name is Brian May (not the guy from Queen). I own the house located at 1141 East Garfield Ave. I bought my house for three reasons: LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. Yes I want you to put the Street Car on 1100 East. I think it is the best idea for two reasons. 1. The 1100 East line would be the best use for street car route because of how many riders would ride it on a daily basis. The residents like myself would leave my car in the garage and use the streetcar to get from a to b. The demographic of working class people who live on 1100 East are like myself would use the streetcar for a main source transportation as opposed to the demographics of the people who live around 2100 South area who see the streetcar as more of shinny new toy then a transportation device. The people in my1100 East neighborhood, are young people, renters and working class people. We would use the street car daily to connect to the rest of the valley via the Trax connection line. 2. MONEY, yes money. I have lived in Utah long enough to see the positive impact that putting light rail does to property values. It is incredible how the 400 South Trax Line has Aaron Anderson Hello, I am returning to the beautiful city of SLC in hopes of one day to become a Planner for the Utah Transit authority. In regards to the Sugarhouse Streetcar phase 2, I would like to propose my idea. If phase 2 could implement car/streetcar shared lanes for part of it, ala Portland, then take it North on 1100 E. to 900 S. Leaving room for expansion with a phase 3, going West on 900 S. Through the pedestrian/bike friendly community of 9th & 9th. Proceed past Liberty park to the 900 S. Trax station, instantaneously creating a lightrail/streetcar "loop" for key areas of SLC. Thank you very much for your time. --Aaron Anderson Kathleen Rice Council Members, I do look forward to the time when the Sugar House Street Car is in place ... Since you asked for comments, I will say that it seems like the route (s) that lead East to the Park, and beyond, would be the most beneficial. The Sugar House Park was made more accessible to people without cars when the traffic light was installed at 15th East, but it is still a chore to get there without a car. (You try it.) The Street Car could make a change for the better in that way!! I know that you say that the 11th East route is recommended, but I am not clear as to why. There are already buses, sidewalks, etc. there and the roadway is rather narrow. You know more about that, however. Thank you for your service to our community, Kathleen Rice 801 581-1559 Sue Watson Hello, Hasn't SugarHouse been torn up for long enough? Can't one project get completed before something else gets torn up? Are you kidding me? The entire cornerstone of SugarHouse has been a mess for the past several years and many small businesses have been run out to make way for a big swamp hole which has brought in no tax payer dollars for the past few years. Additionally the quaint little businesses near this corner do not want the trolley car today or in the future, not to mention the further disruption. If you are truly making a good decision, you would hold off until the existing water issues are resolved in your big sink hole and you would research the true reason why Wilmington Avenue, once holding many small businesses, were demolished and the land sits vacant (again not bringing in tax dollars). Why cant the trolley turn around in the vacant lot (or parking places on wilmington) vs making a mess of 2100 so and/or 1100 East? This end point would be less disruptive and not create nearly the traffic jams or hurt businesses. Please don't make any more dumb decisions just because you have a bunch of money that is burning a hole in your pocket. Please, Al Dieffenbach Dear Council, My name is Al Dieffenbach and I am a stake holder in the heart of Sugar House. My property is from 2100 south on the south to 1100 east on the east and Hollywood avenue to the north located at 1061 East. On this property is four businesses and they are: Salt Lake Pizza and Pasta, Fiddler’s Elbow, Central Point, and Image Eyes Optical. There also is a large parking lot that I own as well. As a stake holder and member of the Sugar House Merchants Group I was involved with the initial movement to get the Sugar House Rail Line built. I sat in on meetings and design discussions and planning of the line. I was thrilled to hear it was being built until at the last Sugar House Merchants meeting where it was disclosed that a preferred route was down 1100 east. Sugar House is defined by the monument and the park and neither is on this route! 1100 East is congested to gridlock as it is from 2100 south past the post office every day! The traffic dept. changed the lights to be green south bound or green north bound but not at the same time. This is fine at 3 AM but not at any other time when there are more than 5 cars at the light. My preferred route would be to Bryce Perkins I'd like to vehemently oppose any future expansion of the sugarhouse streetcar beyond it's current status. I don't see a need, a probable use by the demographic, nor the space to lay down more track . Thanks. Bryce Perkins 2172 Emerson Ave SLC, UT 84108 801-482-8387 Jeannine Young I would propose continuing the street car north on 11th east and then when funding permits perhaps it could drop down to 9th East on 17 South or 13 South and continue north to meet up with Trax. It would give an additional way to go North and South through the neighborhoods. There are many local business and local meeting areas that would benefit from the street car linking them with surrounding neighborhoods. It would also promote walking to catch the streetcar. Jeannine Young Sugar House resident of 19 years Rebekah Wells Greetings! My name is Rebekah Wells. I live at 1365 East Emerson Ave in Sugar House. I would like to voice my preference and opinion on the street car situations. I would prefer the street car continue up 21st south, so later it may turn north on 13th east and eventually connect in with the trax line at University. I see no benefit in running a car down 11th. 13th east would connect to Westminster, East, Rowland and so many residents. this could be very beneficial to the community. Thanks for your time, please consider relocating the street car. Best of Luck, Rebekah Katie Maudsley Tad Solomon Dear City Council, Thank you for your efforts to represent the residents of Salt Lake. I know you have a tough job. I am writing today because I am concerned about the difficulty Salt Lake residents face with city government's permit requirements. I heard this week of a landscaper who has been through such a nightmare (the home owner has as well) attending meetings and trying to work with the city to get permits to landscape a yard that he said he doesn't want to work in Salt Lake anymore because it is so hard to work with the government here. I am shocked at how intrusive the permit process is. If someone wants to replace his windows, he has to ask the city for permission to do this. If someone wants to landscape his yard, he has to ask the city for permission to do this. As citizens of this country, we want to feel that our government is by the people and for the people--not by Big Brother. I understand that for certain safety reasons, there may be some need to check in with home owners-but please help us. There must be some way that this can be simplified. Please help us so that all the fight and hassle and expense for the home owner can be taken into I like the 1100 east option. Jan Brittain From: Jan Brittain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:15 PM To: City Council Liaisons; Simonsen, Soren; Luke, Charlie Subject: Sugar House Streetcar I am adamantly opposed to extending the Sugar House Streetcar line north on 11th East. I think it should continue east to 1300 East and stop right there around Shopko. To me, the whole thing is a giant waste of taxpayer money. We already have bus service that is too infrequent and too expensive. Instead of building more, why isn’t the money being used to make the current system usable? We’re not Portland. If I wanted to live in Portland I would. STOP IMPORTING PORTLAND TO SALT LAKE CITY. We have our own unique character and we’re a great city. As is. That said, if the City Council is determined to extend the Sugar House Streetcar, I wish they would consider a streetcar/trolley bus/jitney bus that travels between Sugar House and Foothill Drive on 2100 South/Parley’s Way. Ideally the route would go from the streetcar terminal, past Sugar House Park, up Parley’s Way to Stringham, then up Stringham to Foothill Drive, down Foothill Drive to Parley’s Bob Watson Jill, The attached voicemail is from Mr. Bob Watson, owner of Technique Recovering & Repair located at 2023 South 1100 East. Mr. Watson is against placing the streetcar along 1100 East. He feels that this would hurt the many businesses along the 1100 East and that maybe 900 East or 1300 East are better options. Mr. Watson (801.484.4419) did not request a call back. Christopher Stout From: Christopher Stout [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:05 PM To: [email protected] Cc: City Council Liaisons Subject: Sugar House Street Car Ms. Remington Love, I am writing to express my strong disapproval of the proposal to extend the Sugar House Streetcar north up 11th east to Westminster college. My home is in that neighborhood, just north of where the proposed line would end. I am chiefly concerned for the character of the neighborhood. As I imagine you are aware, the light commercial activity at 21st south and 11th east only extends north for about a block, at which point the use becomes mixed residential for the rest of the way to 1700 south. That means that for almost the entire length of the extension, the streetcar would be running directly in front of homes. Further, 11th east is an atypically narrow street for Salt Lake City. I have not yet been able to determine whether the proposed street car would run up the middle of this already overly crowded road, or whether buildings would be demolished to make room for it. Either way, the choice appears to be between scarring the local community, Don & Susan Lewon We would prefer the track line end at the west end of the mall at Simpson Ave. Have the turn Around close to Fairmont and the swimming. Have further transportation by bus. Don't muck Up Sugarhouse and 21st South! Sincerely, Don & Susan Lewon Mladen Maric Dear Council Members, My name is Mladen Maric. My family and I have been residents of the Sugarhouse area for the last 35+ years, first on Bryan Avenue and recently on 1200 East, 1792 South. The Sugarhouse Council just informed us, that there is a possibility of extending the streetcar line from the current end of the line behind the former Granite Furniture Building. The two choices presented were to extend the line North on 1100 East or East on 2100 South. I am strongly against both choices for extending the line. The line should end where it currently ends behind the Granite Furniture Building. It should not encroach onto 1100 East nor 2100 South at all. And it should absolutely NOT come close to the Monument Plaza. 1100 East is already to congested as it is. There is no room for any additional space for the streetcar. The streetcar in this location would not alleviate congestion, but would instead increase it. The street is to narrow and the streetcars would drastically impact the quality of life for any of the residents living along that narrow street. The constant noise and inability to pull in/out of the driveways because of the streetcar and the rail tracks Dave Peterson Dear City Council Members: Our family recently purchased property just south of 900 East next to the trolley line now under construction. We are looking forward to the move because we have a disabled daughter, who uses a wheelchair, and now she will be close to services (i.e. grocery store, library, post office, church, retail, entertainment, etc.) and will have easy access to the trolley. We have been watching with interest, but without much of an opinion, as to whether or not phase 2 of the trolley will proceed north on 1100 East or east to 1300 East (and maybe beyond). However, my wife reminded me that if the 1100 East to 1700 South alternative is chosen (even though it would nice to pick up those Westminster faculty/students) the hill between 1100 East and 1300 East, without a trolley, is too steep for disabled individuals and the elderly who desire to enjoy Sugar House Park and points east of 1300 East. Please consider the disabled and elderly populations in your decisions. Thank you. Dave Petersen Darrell Hendriksen Hello, I want to keep Sugar House a walkable area. I wish that Monument Plaza remain walkable- if closing the right had turn lane will promote more pedestrian activity, then that is what I want. Thank you, Darrell Hendriksen -- DH Don & Susan Lewon We would prefer the track line end at the west end of the mall at Simpson Ave. Have the turn Around close to Fairmont and the swimming. Have further transportation by bus. Don't muck Up Sugarhouse and 21st South! Sincerely, Don & Susan Lewon Karen Whitlock Rhiannon Trimn Søren; This call is from Karen Whitlock who lives on Ramona Ave. She is opposed to the streetcar line being on 2100 South as she feels there is already too much congestion and a streetcar will only make things worse. Karen doesn't require a call back, but left her number (801-467-4486) if you'd like to call. BRIAN FULLMER Salt Lake City Council Staff OFFICE of the CITY COUNCIL SALT LAKE CITY CORPORATION TEL 801-535-7639 Does not want the streetcar to run through 1100 east. Most people who live on 1100 east dont have driveways and usually park on the street. If these streetcar comes where would we park? Destroying a neighborhood for people is unjust and we are just learning about the streetcar because of a letter taht was sent out. Thanks, Rhiannon Trimn Jan Brittan I am adamantly opposed to extending the Sugar House Streetcar line north on 11th East. I think it should continue east to 1300 East and stop right there around Shopko. To me, the whole thing is a giant waste of taxpayer money. We already have bus service that is too infrequent and too expensive. Instead of building more, why isn’t the money being used to make the current system usable?From: Jan Brittain [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:15 PM To: City Council Liaisons; Simonsen, Soren; Luke, Charlie Subject: Sugar House Streetcar I am adamantly opposed to extending the Sugar House Streetcar line north on 11th East. I think it should continue east to 1300 East and stop right there around Shopko. To me, the whole thing is a giant waste of taxpayer money. We already have bus service that is too infrequent and too expensive. Instead of building more, why isn’t the money being used to make the current system usable? We’re not Portland. If I wanted to live in Portland I would. STOP IMPORTING PORTLAND TO SALT LAKE CITY. We have our own unique character and we’re a great city. As is. That said, if the City Council is Bob Watson Jill, The attached voicemail is from Mr. Bob Watson, owner of Technique Recovering & Repair located at 2023 South 1100 East. Mr. Watson is against placing the streetcar along 1100 East. He feels that this would hurt the many businesses along the 1100 East and that maybe 900 East or 1300 East are better options. Mr. Watson (801.484.4419) did not request a call back. Joanne Sindergaurd From: Patricia Franz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:48 PM To: Council Comments Subject: proposal for Sugar House Streetcar Hello, I live at 1776 Hollywood Ave, just 2 blocks north from 2100 South. I just received a flyer showing the proposed expansion of the Sugar House Streetcar. I vote NO for adding a 2100 South (starting at 1100 East and heading east). My reasons are as follows: 1. The impact this will have on the neighborhood alone will be horribly detrimental to home owners in that area. Our homes will instantly decrease in value. 2. What about the cost to widen the street from 1700 E and up towards Parleys. (Our tax dollars at work? Cut the elderly or school funding?) 3. How many homes will be affected along 2100 South in that stretch? If you have surveyed the area you know 2100 South goes from quite wide, beginning at 1300 E, but at 1700 E it becomes a one lane road. 4. Are houses going to be condemned so they can be sold at a lower price? 5. Are you going to cut off a major portion of the homeowners front property to make room for Trax and car traffic? These are just a few of the concerns many of us in this area have Does not want the streetcar to go down 1100 East. Brett Henderson I strongly oppose running the street car east up 2100 S to 1700 E. The street car will have a negative impact on the residential area north of 2100 S. The proposed plan to run up 1100 E to Westminster College is a much better option. Laura Gray I strongly object to the 1100 East steetcar option. That is very crowded corridor already and too narrow for a line. Get some more busses and add a bike lane first. Patricia Franz Hank Basking Mike Riordan unknown Gary Madrid Merrill Singuard laura grey William Hawkins I would like to see more public transportation serving the east-west routes across the city. There are excellent northsouth options for commuting, but those of us on the east bench have no real options on Trax, front runner, etc. A line along 21st south (and hopefully all the way to foothill village) would help decrease cross-town car travel and traffic congestion and open up Sugarhouse Park (and nearby businesses) to many more citizens. Future extensions of the streetcar and/or Trax to the east bench are sorely needed... aside from servicing the many commuters who work in Research Park, there are many other obvious Trax/Streetcar destinations on the east bench for all residents, including the zoo, This Is The Place Park, and the UT Natural History Museum. No to extend either way. 21st South would be great. Doesnt understand why we need a streetcar when we have buses that work just fine? No to 1100 East doesnt need to be in a residential area. Unknown Ms. Rochlyn No to 1100 East needs to go up 21st south. No to streetcar on 1100 East Please to do expand the streetcar. In favor of the trax line from sugarhouse on East. against the 1100 East for streetcar Becka Wants the streetcar to go down 2100 South Lane Call Is in favor of the 2100 south streetcar only unknown Is in favor of the 2100 south streetcar only Steven Brinton FYI - S. Begin forwarded message: From: Steve Brinton Subject: Sugar House TRAX line Date: April 22, 2013 1:52:23 PM MT To: Council Comments , "Simonsen, Soren" City Council & Mayor, As a business and property owner in Salt Lake City, I am very concerned about the various proposals for the extension of the new TRAX line. I have read the favored route which runs North on 11th and contend it is a route to nowhere and serves no real purpose. The congestion along an already crowded 11th east would force traffic away from the area not enhance the appeal of the area. Many of the businesses would lose there limited street parking along with the congestion might force many of these unique businesses to relocate elsewhere. I am in favor of the TRAX going to the east which would serve the most important asset in the area, Sugar House Park. In addition, in the future it would provide a link to the eastern portion of the SLC area and the many needs along 21st south to foothill blvd. 21st South also has the size necessary to accomodate the new line. The letter from Soren Simonsen is a very detailed and thoughtful report on this proposed route. Please except my response Randy Worrall Salt Lake City Council c/o John Anderson Principal Planner Salt Lake City Corporation 451 South State Street, Rm. 406 Salt Lake City, Utah 84111 Subject: Epic Brewing Zoning Map Amendment Dear City Council Members, I am writing to you today in support of the Epic Brewing’s Zoning Map Amendment that will be brought in front of the City Council on Tuesday, April 23. The current proposal made by Epic Brewing is a well-planned compromise that preserves the existing neighborhood on Edison Street while providing growth opportunities and serves the interests of Epic Brewing and the citizens of the city at large. The proposal enables Epic Brewing to make a much needed expansion on State Street thereby providing additional jobs, tax basis and general economic support to the community. Furthermore, Epic Brewing is a responsible, Utah-based/owned company, is environmentally friendly, a tourist destination and supports numerous local non-profits, such as: Discovery Gateway, Clark Planetarium, Hogle Zoo, Make a Wish Foundation, Ronald McDonald House, Head Start, Cross Roads Urban Center, the Boys and Girls Club, Huntsman Cancer Institute, Roger Jones City Council: Please consider that the most useful continuation of the Sugar House Streetcar route would track east up 21st South, then further to the business area up Parley's Way which now includes medical & commercial offices, Wallmart, Cowboy Grub, and a dense apartment complex. On the way it could serve Highland High School and the many businesses strung out along along that route. Roger Jones 2720 St. Mary's Way Salt Lake City, Utah 84108-2040 801 5819576 Pam Earle To Who This May Concern: I think the idea of using 11th east for tracks does not make sense. To whom or what segment of the population will this plan part accommodate? The money to be spent on this part of the Track's line is a waste of the taxpayer's money and further, that part of 11th east is so narrow, that the businesses in that area will suffer. I cannot emphasize how unpracticable this plan is!!!! An interested taxpayer, P Earle J FREEMAN I have lived in Sugarhouse all my life and right now I live on 2100 South east of Sugarhouse Park and I absolutely do not see a warrant for Trax, nor, the tens of thousands of dollars it would take to build it to continue East on 2100 S. I believe that Sugarhouse Park might possibly be a destination but nothing East of the Park, certainly not Highland High School and not 21st and 21st. I even think the bus lines that travel 2100 S. should be downsized to smaller commuter buses since we only see 24 people utilizing it at any given time. The Sugarhouse area and East of Sugarhouse Park are surrounding quiet neighborhoods of families, lovely old homes and tree lined streets and not big business like downtown SLC, the U of U, and some of its connecting areas. Please, please don't make us into a big business district and ruin the ambiance of the Sugarhouse area. Thanks! JF Maurine Bachman jennie jones I completely support Charlie Luke and Soren Simonsen position on the streetcar route. I think that the 11th east option to 9&9 again shows the Mayors concern for downtown and totally ignores the east side. Currently east side/Foothill is not served by any transit option beyond poor bus service. It is time for the City transit option to include the east bench and foothill areas. The reasoning for the 11th East option as a redevelopment option does not make sense either. Look at the area on 11th and then to 9th & 9th, the area on 11th is redeveloping on its own, in its own way and then it is heavily residential in the area outside the corners. Seems like one of the concerns at the City is to preserve housing and encouraging redevelopment takes that housing away. Taking the streetcar east on 2100 South where again redevelopment is slowing happening is a more appropriate commercial/business area. Why not continue the streetcar/bike path through the new PRATT project into the park and up to 2100 South at 1500 East. Please send the streetcar east. I vote for the plan where the street car goes up by sugarhouse park. It just makes so much sense to have the park be a destination on the route. Larry Okun RE: extension of Sugar House Streetcar I want to express my present strong preference for the north along 11th East option. As has been noted, this would connect a *walkable* light commercial area along 11th East to Sugar House and Westminster College. As also pointed out, it could eventually be extended to the 9th East9th South commercial area and beyond to the TRAX line at 9th East /4th South, thus linking Wesminster, three important commercial/residential areas (Sugar House, 9th&9th, and the 4th South set) -- all walkable and suited for a streetcar -- plus, via TRAX, the University and central SLC. The arguments for the alternative, east extension along 21st East, with proposed later extension to Foothill Blvd, then to the University and TRAX, seem unpersuasive. The following points can be emphasized: 1. Neither 21st South nor Foothill Blvd. are pedestrian-friendly stretches suitable for a streetcar line. 2. The suggested access to Highland High offers doubtful advantage. High school students would likely use such transportation only twice per day -- morning and early afternoon -- with heavy use during those two periods not easily met by any lyn I am opposed to the extensions of the trolley line east on 21st south or north on 11th east. I see no reason to lay tracks over old municipal services under the street which may fail after the tracks are in. I see no reason why it is better to have to juggle transfers between schedules of two different types of lines: bus and rail. I do not agree that electrical lines and tracks running in the lanes with cars is a good idea. Is it true that the electrical cars will be less polluting, or are we just saying that the pollution connected with the production of the electricity will move the pollution away from downtown? Isn't a natural gas bus a good enough pollution answer? I have spoken with an official of the UTA lines who say they have had nothing to do with the development of the tracks plan which is disliked by many in my neighborhood. Why are they not a huge part of the analysis of this program? Over the years they cancelled the bus line east-west on Garfield because it was underused. How many years will it take to fully utilize the slow development of a complete trolley line? How does the price of putting on more busses as needed, (with more frequent coverage to accommodate Deb Day Olivier Re: Sugarhouse streetcar Routing For myself I want the streetcar to go to Sugarhouse Park-and later to keep heading east as I live on the bench. The dream of reasonable cost, convenient mass transit is elusive here in our valley. The best route, for now, however goes on 11th. Westminster college students could use it to go to downtown Sugarhouse to shop and dine. Carole Straughn Hello Council Members, I favor going east on 2100 South from the Sugar House Monument to connect to SH Park and Highland High School. Eventually, I'd like to see it go on to connect to business nodes at 21 & 21 and at 2300 East, then eventually to Foothill Drive. My reasons have to do with my own needs, those of local students and of the business people on 1100 East. As for myself, I am already using more transit than ever, and I expect to use it even more as I age. Living in the more densely populated areas of Westminster Neighborhood, I can walk the College and the business areas along 1100 East, but it takes too long to walk up hill to my credit union Mountain America or to Fresh Market, for example. In addition, 1100 East seems very tight for a streetcar. I think it is more important to provide transit service for the Highland High students than for the Westminster students, for two reasons. First, the high-schoolers are less experienced drivers, and second, they come from a larger catchment area. Second, Westminster students do just fine walking, biking or skate-boarding between the College and Westminster on the draw and the adjacent business district. I am happy to David Shrider I have lived in central sugarhouse for twenty years and drive the area daily. By far the most logical route for the streetcar is east to sugarhoue park, Highland High School and beyond. Check your demographics. Sending the streetcar north on 1100 east makes NO sense. Choosing a narrow, two lane surface street that is already congested - it is a parking lot during rush hour - defies reason. You would need to tear up sidewalks, remove trees and landscaping, reconfigure utilities and otherwise destroy the very ambiance sugarhouse is noted for. Thank you for the work you do. David Shrider (1963 S. 1200 E. No.610, SLC, 84105) Amy Barry Hello- We received the below comment via our facebook page and promised to pass it along to the city council. Regards, Sugar House Community Council Nikki Angel'la Parsons Thanks to Soren Simonsen for the letter that District 7 residents received. It clarified a lot of the questions I've had and articulated my concerns. I agree with Mr. Simonsen about sending the streetcar to Sugar House Park rather than 17th east. If we had a farmers market or some other draw at that intersection, it would make more sense... Though I would still fear that putting in a streetcar would mean widening roads and I would hate to see 11th get widened. I prefer the idea of utilizing areas where more space already exists and the destinations are visited by more people. That's the way to reduce congestion. Tiffani Taylor I think it should extend to 900 S. It's a fabulous idea and the people opposing it are too attached to their cars. I live in Gilmer Park and love the idea of our city "growing up". Thank you. Tiffani Taylor Brent and Nina Berry My husband I live in the Sugarhouse area (Hollywood Avenue-1965 South 1500 East). We will be unable to attend the public hearing on April 23 and wanted to share our comments with you. While we support extending the TRAX line east on 2100 South to 1300 East and Sugarhouse Park, we do not support extending the line east to Highland Drive and 1100 East to 1700 South. The intersection on Highland Drive and 2100 South is already too congested and adding a street car into this intersection will make it more so. Continuing the streetcar parallel to 2100 South is better. I hope you will take our comments into consideration as we who live in this area are the ones who must deal with the decisions you make every day. Thank you. Brent and Nina Berry Mike Rasch I am writing to express my support for extending the streetcar line eastward from 1100 East to Sugarhouse Park and eventually farther east on 2100 South, rather than extending it to the north along 1100 East. I am an apartment building owner near Sugarhouse Park. Public transportation is currently lacking in the area above 1300 East along the 2100 South corridor. It is currently inconvenient for my tenants and others living in the area near Sugarhouse Park to use public transportation to access the downtown area, the University of Utah, and the Foothill Village area. An eastward extension of the streetcar line fits better with existing public transportation and planned future changes. Mike Rasch Sheldon Furst Dear City Council Members: I strongly support the extension of the Sugarhouse Streetcar up Wilmington to Sugarhouse Park. I do NOT support the extension up 1100 East. 1100 East is already very congested; adding the streetcar will only make a bad situation worse. More importantly, Sugarhouse Park is an important destination; having the streetcar stop two blocks short of the park greatly diminishes the utility of the streetcar. Thank you for your consideration. Sheldon Salt Lake City, UTAnderson 84108 Salt LakeFurst City Council c/o John Susan Passino Principal Planner Salt Lake City Corporation 451 South State Street, Rm. 406 Salt Lake City, Utah 84111 Subject: Epic Brewing Zoning Map Amendment Dear City Council Members, I am writing to you today in support of the Epic Brewing’s Zoning Map Amendment that will be brought in front of the City Council on Tuesday, April 23. The current proposal made by Epic Brewing is a well-planned compromise that preserves the existing neighborhood on Edison Street while providing growth opportunities and serves the interests of Epic Brewing and the citizens of the city at large. The proposal enables Epic Brewing to make a much needed expansion on State Street thereby providing additional jobs, tax basis and general economic support to the community. I had read about the revitalization of the State Street when I first moved to Salt Lake from San Francisco and to then discover Epic Brewery was a big hooray. I saw so many areas in San Francisco go through transitions when I lived there and truly believe that Epic can be a huge contributor to the vision of the city. Mixed neighborhoods are a huge attraction and Robert Gill Blare Sorenson Thanks for the info re Sugar House Streetcar, I totally agree that coming up (east on 21st South) is the best solution. Keep up the good work! Street on 1100 east are too narrow please do not put a streetcar there. no to the 1100 east streetcar. Melissa Lichtenstein Søren; Melissa Lichtenstein called to let you and the other Council Members know she is opposed to the streetcar on 1100 East. She feels it makes more sense to have it head east on 2100 South to Highland High School, and extend east from there with future extensions. She said 1100 East is already very congested and adding the streetcar to the mix will only make it worse. Many homes and businesses on 1100 East only have on-street parking and Melissa feels running the streetcar through there will be bad for business and the community. Front Office-Will you please add these comments to the matrix? Thanks, Brian Miriam Anderson Becky Lawlor From: Becky Lawlor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:02 PM To: Butterfield, Edward Subject: SugarHouse Street Car Hi, I am a resident of Salt Lake City and live near 1700 S. 800 E. I am against having the street car go north along 1100 E. This area (between Whole Foods & 1700 S./1100E.) is already MUCH too congested. I cannot see how it can even accommodate a street car. I am already VERY concerned about the additional traffic that will come online when SugarHouse Crossing is complete. This area needs BIKE LANES and improved pedestrian access, not a street car. I would like to bike over there to run my errands, especially with my kids in tow, but it is currently too dangerous given the traffic congestion, on street parking, etc. So I drive.... If the City wants to continue the street car line, I think it makes the most sense to take it North to Sugar House park. Though I would prefer it go north along the street between Whole Foods and the Sundance Outlet (Willimington?). Less traffic. Getting the street car to 2100 S. and running it north from there still seems like too congested of an area. I am for public Megan Smith From: Megan Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:31 AM To: Butterfield, Edward; Luke, Charlie Subject: Streetcar Allignment Hi, I'm a SLC resident who lives in the 2100 E & 2100 S neighborhood. I'd like to advocate for the streetcar to come east, up 2100 S. I agree with Councilman Luke in that the consultant's analysis was undermined by not factoring in the Park. Further, I belive my neighborhood is ripe for pedestrian friendly redevelopment. Within the last few years, a large condo building has gone in near Dillworth elementary - condo owners are more likely to use public transport than homeowners I would think. There are currently two large parcels awaiting for someone to buy them up and redevelope them - on 2100 East, between Dilworth and the Blue Plate, where the Works used to be and on 2100 South where Formosa Grill used to be. With the streetcar coming towards us, I think developers would be much more inclined to come up with an eco friendly/multi use building design (retail/office/condo) if there were an assurance it would be served by a Mary Spaid From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:31 PM To: Butterfield, Edward Cc: Luke, Charlie Subject: Sugarhouse Streetcar - Please choose 2100 South Hello - We moved to Salt Lake City in 1997. We used to be able to walk a very short distance to mulitiple bus stops (on 2300 East and 2100 South). Now, we need to go up to Foothill Blvd or 2100 East. The neighbor's kids (older than mine) always took the bus to school. My kids used to take TRAX to school (West High School). They only transfered to the bus as a last resort, since it meant a 15 minute walk with their backpacks at the end of what became a very long day. Then the University TRAX line stopped going directly to the Arena, so they don't take TRAX at all. We drive. Just once, could our neighborhood be conveniently served by public transportation? Please choose 2100 South for the Sugarhouse Streetcar. I would love to not have to drive (and park!) along this congested route to shop and dine. thank you Mary Spaid 1929 South Nevada Street(2325 East) Salt Lake City, UT 84108 Paul Werner I strongly support the proposal to extend the street car along 11th East to 17th South. I think it’s brilliant. In fact, I hope the street car will eventually be extended through 9th/9th to connect with TRAX at the 4th South station. Best regards. PWW 1139 East Yale Avenue Salt Lake City, UT 841051514 801.582.2226 [email protected] @pwwerner Aimee Adanson I will not be able to attend the Apr 23 meeting but I would like to state my opinion here regarding the SHS. For now, I believe the best route is the east extension up 2100 S for all the reasons stated by council member Charlie Luke. However, we need to think about the traffic mess we now have in and around Westminster College and future plans need to take into consideration how to expand in that direction without gutting 11th East. Thank you. Victor Pardini District 6 I would like to see the car go up 21st south to 17th east. aimee adamson Kim Gianelo To whom it may concern: I support expanding the streetcar expansion up the 21st south corridor. I do NOT support the extension along Highland and north to 1700 South. This route is already too congested. Thank you, Kim Gianelo 976 Wilson Ave. Margaret Anderson To the council members, I will not be able to make it to the meeting on April 23 but would like to give my recommendations as a person living in the sugarhouse area. I feel strongly about continuing the streetcar to the east and NOT along 11th East. It makes a lot more sense in so many ways and 11th East is already so crowded it makes me nervous to even think about adding a streetcar there. Thank you for your consideration in this matter. Margaret Anderson Victor Pardini Roberta Burden To Whom It May Concern, I find it more than a littledisconcerting that the 11th East route for the proposed streetcar has been under consideration for more than a year, while the Sugar House businesses and residents have just begun hearing about it within the last few weeks. Tearing up 11th East for a streetcar that might accommodate a few people averse to actually walking a few blocks, would certainly destroy businesses along this route to say nothing of the major inconvenience to private residences. Many are just small businesses. And access to the Post Office, library and banks would be nonexistent. In the event of construction on 11th East, the huge quantity of daily traffic on this route would be diverted to parallel McClelland, a narrow residential street with small children. We experienced just three days of this diversion last summer during some brief repair on 11th East. It was a nightmare with speeding cars, buses and constant noise. Sugar House has a warm, friendly, small town feeling. Quality of life is a major component of living in this area. Lengthy major construction, snarled traffic and a clanging street car would utterly destroy this quality. I have not spoken to a Samuel Brown I have reviewed the brochure you sent and am in favor of extending rail service. I would vote for the "Possible Route" up the north side of Sugar House park over the currently "recommended" route along 1100 E. I think for people who have to get to the station on foot or on bicycle they would prefer to NOT have to go up the fault from 1100-1300 E, and the route up the north side of Sugar House park would be better in that regard. I would not mind the increased congestion on 2100 S, as I think 1700 S is a reasonable option for getting east-west. -- ---------------Samuel Brown Michael Lobb Council Members- Michael Lobb called to register his opposition to the proposed 1100 East street car alignment. He owns property at 1714 South 1100 East and believes the traffic is already too congested in this area. Putting a trolley there would only make it worse. He supports Council Members Simonsen’s idea to run the trolley east to Sugar House Park. He believes it would be more beneficial to run it to 1700 East along 2100 South. Todd Slack Council, My wife and I have lived in Sugar House for nearly 20 years. We reside on Imperial Street, just north of 2100 South. The public transportation (bus) currently available is never used to its full extent. There are usually only a handful of people who ride the bus. In other words, public transportation in this area is not high on the priority list for "most" residents. It makes more sense to place the Trax extension in a business area as opposed to a residential area. If I had a vote, I would vote against the 2100 South extension. Unfortunately, all I have is an opinion to share. This said, I don't even know what my opinion is worth anymore. UYTA and SLC are going to do what UTA and SLC want to do. Most of my neighbors share similar thoughts as myself. Be wise, be productive, be responsible in this decision. Thanks for your interest. Todd Slack (801) 485-9693 2010 S Imperial Street SLC, UT 84105 Doug Gould From: Doug Gould Date: Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Streetcar Community Update from Council Member Love To: Gilmer Park Neighborhood Association Cc: [email protected] A far more important question is "who is paying for all this?" I don't remember seeing anything on that subject. Seems to me that it is irresponsible to embark on any such project right now that is not seriously needed. Our Federal government is badly in debt and shouldn't be paying grant money for this kind of pork. Utah is in better shape, but it shouldn't be peeing away funds on a project that will probably never even generate enough revenue to pay its ongoing operating expenses. I say, drop this "Toonerville Trolley" project in its tracks now before any more money is wasted! Doug Gould Phyllis L. Vandermolen To members of the Salt Lake City Council, I support the extension of the Sugarhouse streetcar going east along 2100 South. It seems to me that the destinations of Sugarhouse Park and HIghland High School would be popular and well-used. It also seems to me that 2100 S can handle the impact of construction with less harm to local businesses than the section of 1100E going north from 2100 S towards 1700 S. Thank you. Sincerely, Phyllis L. Vandermolen Barbara Behnke Re: the Sugarhouse Streetcar route options, I very strongly advocate the "blue" route depicted in the recent postal mailing, which would travel east to 1300 East , then on 2100 South. Hopefully it would eventually go past Highland High School. I am in agreement with Soren Simonsen's ideas and strongly support Soren's proposal. Thank you for considering my perspective, Barbara Behnke iPad Please do not dig Dear SaltSent Lakefrom Citymy Council: Barb Shelley up 1100 East and convert it for a streetcar line. That section of our beloved Sugar House is way too congested and busy now. Let’s not add more confusion with a streetcar line. A streetcar just provides another option for travel. People are still going to be driving through that area in their cars. The intersection of 1100 East and 2100 South is way too congested, crazy busy, and too narrow to add a streetcar line to it. Let’s enjoy that historic part of our community and encourage walking in that area. If the streetcar has to be extended (oh that I wish it could run parallel to I-80), than let’s run it up 2100 South via Wilmington or Simpson Ave and 1300 East and increase connecting bus routes for use by folks who need to travel to the University of Utah and Westminster College. Placing the streetcar on 2100 South via 1300 East can help support the retail shopping on 1300 East. Thank you for listening to my concerns. Please vote NO on the idea of running a streetcar line on 1100 East to 1700 South. Barb Shelley 2002 South 1700 East SLC 84108 P.O. Box 526181 Salt Lake City, UT 84152-6181 801-673-7837, cell Dennis Kelsch I am strongly opposed to extending the trolley down 11oo East. There is no room for it and it will go nowhere (to 1700 S.). Take it up 2100 South to Highland HS. I live at 1144 Westminster Ave., SLC, 84105. PLEASE do NOT go down 1100 East! Dennis Kelsch Kaye Terry Re: Soren Simonsen's district wide letter. My husband and I have lived at approximately 2155 So and 2500 East since 1978. We love the neighborhood and have watched the bus system up here gradually disappear. However, we are both OPPOSED to running trax up 2100 South. 21st is already congested and the narrowing of the street plus the dangerous mix of cars and trains is not good. We are both curious as to why you want to put in an expensive, dangerous, fixed system when what you really need to do is expand the bus service as it was before. Thank you for your consideration of this email. Kaye & Rob Terry. Sent from my iPhone Kevin R Schiedler Dear Council Members, I am concerned about the proposed extension of the Sugar House street car project. I am concerned that the Council is considering expanding a new form of transportation before the first phase of the project is complete. Running the new streetcar for a year or more to collect usage data, operating costs, and final construction costs would give the city a much better idea of the true costs and benefits of this form of transportation before committing many millions of dollars in taxpayer money to an expansion. The first phase has a projected ridership of 3,000 people per day and an installed cost of $55.5 million. This works out to about $2.50 per ride over the first 20 years without factoring in the operating costs. While this is far cheaper than the Trax line, it is still a major upfront cost for a two mile trip regardless of the funding source. The current "recommended" route going north up Highland street would make travel by motor vehicle very difficult in this area during construction and afterwards without increasing the transportation capacity of Highland significantly. There simply is not the physical space to accommodate both a D. P. Gall Dear Council Members: I would like to say that as a resident of Sugarhouse, I am totally opposed to the proposed idea of running a streetcar along 1100 East to 1700 South. From a resident’s point of view this proposal is unnecessary and a total waste of Federal grant funds. The Mayor has initiated the inclusion of bike paths on both sides of 1100 East which is a good move to help with the environment and the image of Salt Lake City. However, there is no need to add congestion in Sugarhouse with streetcars running along routes currently served by UTA buses!!! It makes very little sense. I only hope this is still a “plan―and not a public relations event to mask a decision already secretly approved!! I will participate in the public hearings on Tuesday to again voice my rigorous opposition to this poorly conceived “plan― !! D. P. Gall Ana Holt Mr Soren Simonsen, Mr Charlie Luke Just recently, about a week ago, we received mention that the city council is attempting to implement a street car on our street 2100 S 1700 East. We are a young couple raising three young children. We have nothing against public transportation, in fact, my husband and I are very happy customers of TRAX and UTA, we own only one car, so we ride the bus on our street on daily basis. It is for this main reason that we see no need for extra public transportation right on our street, we already have four different routes relatively near our area routes 21, 223, 220, and 213 for those who need public transportation like us. We don’t understand your intentions. Why to waste funds on areas that are already covered by UTA? Would it not be easier to look for ways to enhance the service they already provide without altering the peace on our neighborhood street which we already have to endure living on a busy street? We appreciate your good intentions for improving public transportation but feel that implementing the street car on 2100 South and 1700 East and farther east not only is unneeded but will bring a negative impact Helen M. Peters Dear Mayor and Councilmembers, Please see attached letter for the Friends of the South Salt Lake and Sugar House Streetcar's position on the LPA. Thanks, Helen Peters Chair, Friends of the Streetcar Helen M. Peters 2803 Beverly Street Salt Lake City, Utah 84106 801-560-5036 Kevin Flynn I tried to post a comment using Open City Hall but after signing up, I couldn't find a way to post a comment, so I will use this email. I am a resident of Salt Lake City, living in the Highland Park area near Sugarhouse, and I agree with Soren Simonsens thinking that the streetcar line should go East to Sugarhouse Park, and not turn North to 1700 South. I plan to ride my bike to the park (or Highland High) and ride the streetcar to go down town, or to the airport in the future. thank you for your efforts to serve our community, Kevin Flynn 1875 Atkin Ave. Salt Lake City, UT 84106 USA 801-706-3344 Al Dieffenbach Dear council, Al Dieffenbach from Salt Lake Pizza and Pasta Fiddler's Elbow re-writing to you to implore that you do not build the streetcar/TRAX line down 1100 east. I call it a TRAX line because if it is a TRAX car on track just like a TRAX train it still is a TRAX line not a street car as in the original design phase. I am very disappointed with the mayor's decision to back this route when it should go to the monument and then eastward to the park. Westminster students would ride it Highland high school students would as well as all the new people moving into the high density housing along 2100 east corridor. The majority of the businesses that I have spoken with located on 100 east don't want this to be the route to "NOWHERE" instead they all want it to go to the park and eventually further east to foothill and the U of U. Thanks, Al Dieffenbach 801-463-9393 Sarah Clinger City Council: I am having a hard time understanding why you would bring the streetcar along 21st South. I live south west of the 21st and 21st intersection and do not believe that a streetcar will benefit this neighborhood. I have seen the flier that explains the proposed extension and still can not understand why you would bring it along 21st South. I feel like you have never driven along 21st South during high traffic times. Knowing that streetcars make frequent stops I can only imagine how many more accidents there are going to be because of impatient drivers. With all of the stops that streetcars make it is going to make traffic even more congested. I know that some of you live in this neighborhood and I can not understand why you would want to add extra congestion. There are no shopping destinations, restaurants or attractions that you would need to provide extra transportation. There have been many bus stops that have been cancelled because no one uses the stops. This shows that there is not a need for the extra transportation. I feel that if you do not have the public requesting this type of transportation it is a waste of money. It shows that you are not being Amy Bradford Please do not allow the rail to be extended to 2100 S. This is located directly near an elementary school, close to many private, currently safe neighborhoods. Those that might need the rail can easily walk a few blocks to the entrance station, as well as take a bus or ride a bike. Please help us keep neighborhoods and school zones safe for children and their neighborhoods. Thank you, Amy Bradford (neighborhood resident) Maxine Babalis To whom it may concern enough to read this: I have lived in and walked the streets of Sugarhouse for my 72 years and am totally familiar with its streets, alleys and traffic patterns. I've been reading about your two options for adding a streetcar to one of two already very crowded and congested areas. Removing the right turn lane from 21st So. to Highland Drive will make it even more congested. Instead of tearing up the streets and putting in a streetcar (although nostalgic and colorful), why not invest in some smaller, non-polluting shuttle buses that would run regularly through the Sugarhouse area. When the time comes to extend TRAX farther east, those shuttles could still be used to transport people from the TRAX stops to areas north such as on 11th East, 15th East, 17th East, 21st East, and Foothill Drive. When changes are made in the TRAX routes, there will be different needs as to which routes are most needed. Why tear up streets to put in embedded tracks, when they may not even be needed in the future? The vote currently seems to be favoring 11th East. That makes no sense. When it reaches 17th South, that's a hefty uphill walk to Westminster College. Except for a drugstore, John C. Stringham I am completely opposed to extending the rail spur from 1100 East up 2100 South past 1300 East. About 10 years ago, I served on the public advisory committee to consider closure of our neighborhood school, Rosslyn Heights. Contrary to the recommendations of the committee, Rosslyn Heights was closed requiring all of the grade school students to cross 2100 South in order to get to Dilworth Elementary. It is alarming to me that our representative Soren Simonsen, who I have supported in past elections, is in favor of extending the rail spur up 2100 South forcing 100’s of young children to twice daily cross an active Trax line. Additionally, the idea to bring Trax up to Highland High, which has many inexperienced drivers, is a bad idea. These drivers are already prone to accidents, and placing a Trax line in their path is just asking for trouble. Mr. Simonsen has mentioned that one of the advantages of Trax around 2100 South and 1100 East is the high density housing that already exists and has been recently built. The neighborhood further east on 2100 South does not have high density housing and bringing Trax through such neighborhoods in not only a massive Dennis R. and Annette L. Weight My wife and I just recently received a letter from Soren Simonsen, Salt Lake City Council Member, District Seven requesting community input for the future expansion of a streetcar line to connect Sugarhouse District. May we say that we agree with every comment made by Mr. Simonsen. Annette and I both feel it would be a big mistake to have the streetcar running on Highland Drive and proceeding on 1100 East to 1700 South. In fact we both laughed that anyone would even consider such a thing. Has anyone tried to get to the Post-office in 1100 East? It is a nightmare. Why would you even consider putting a a streetcar on a road that is already so tiny, cars have difficulty trying to move bumper-to-bumper to get to the 21st stop light. Has anyone tried getting out of the Post-office on to 1100 East? Add a streetcar and you might have to relocate the Post-office Having lived at our 1500 East residence since 1980, we have seen many changes to the Sugar-house area, that we feel we know the area and what is best for it. We saw homes torn down to make room for the shopping area that has spread Northward to 21st South. These business are great. We love having them. However, have K. Hale Over 20 year resident of east Sugarhouse and am strongly in favor of a spur extending at least to Sugarhouse park and Highland High. Would really have a positive impact for students and commuters. Long term projection up to Park City could be considered... Or possible connection along belt route and other canyons and U of U. My neighbors are not as supportive but I think it is futuristic and progressive. K. Hale Berkeley St. resident since 1992 and Salt Lake resident entire life. Sent from my iPhone Kristin Kraus I am writing to express my opinion regarding the proposed streetcar routes. I do not agree that the route upto 1700 south is the best. My preference would be for the route that goes to the sugar house shopping center. The area around1100 east and 2100 south is too concongested, 1100 east is ALREADY too narrow and there is little business at the proposed terminus to benefit from the street car. Sincerely, Kristin Kraus 2545 Melbourne st. Salt lake city, ut 84106 Mary jane Berg I think the best plan is for the Sugar House streetcar to go up 2100 South. 1100 East is too small, and too neighborly for such a large transportation vehicle, and would ruin the charm of that district. 2100 South is already a large street, with a lot of commercial activity on it, and would be a much preferable choice. Mary Jane Berg | Paralegal STOEL RIVES LLP | 201 S. Main St, Suite 1100 | Salt Lake City, UT 84111-4904 Direct: (801) 578-6949 | Fax: (801) 578-6999 [email protected] | www.stoel.com This email may contain material that is confidential, privileged and/or attorney work product for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any unauthorized review, use, or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful. ï ï€ Please consider the environment before printing this email. Sheila Privett To Whom It May Concern: In my opinion, the congestion along 1100 East from 2100 South to 1900 South is absolutely horrible and shame on those who decided to narrow the road years ago. I suppose it was to beautify the area but instead it is a digusting sight. Traffic is out of control and then to suggest bringing in a Streetcar to add to the congestion and miserable attempt to get through this area is not a good idea. Sincerely, Sheila PrivettI have waited to Salt Lake City Council- Amy Barry submit my comments via email to the city council until the community council meetings had occured. I have participated in this issue since the beginning. I want to thank the RDA and Transportation for all their work on this issue. I am very pleased with the amount of public involvement in this process during the open houses, etc. The issue before the city council is the reflection of a lot of work and outreach done by those folks. Unfortunately, the issue of the streetcar extension has not been on the public radar for some time. The timing of it coming to the city council has been quick and there was no notice that the city was ready to move on this for a vote until last month. As such the community council did not have enough time to really do much public outreach on this issue to remind folks about it. The Sugar House Community Council hosted 2 information meetings for the public to come and learn more about the issue at hand. From straw polls it was clear that we are fairly evenly divided as a community both from residents and business owners. A small majority voted to extend the line east along 2100 S. I see value Catherine L. McNally Dear Council Members, It is with great consternation that I recently learned of Mr. Simonsen's proposal to build a Trax line on 2100 South. As a twenty-year resident of the area, I vehemently oppose his proposal and wish the council to know that he does not represent my position or interests on this issue--quite the opposite. 2100 South is already too narrow and heavily trafficked for a primarily residential area, above 1300 East especially. Elementary-aged school children cross at 2100 East. The addition of a Trax line would make that intersection even more dangerous. The handful of small businesses above 1300 East do not warrant an intrusion of this scale into the heavily residential areas on either side of 2100 South, and below 1300 East, the street is far too narrow for safety or convenience if a Trax line were added. In addition, a new Trax line would further congest 2100 East and divert even more traffic to Foothill Blvd. Given that public transport is supposed to alleviate congestion on our streets as well as that there are relatively few and small businesses along the proposed route, not to mention, the noise and congestion that Trax inevitably means wherever it is located, this almost Alyssa Hickman Grove I'm writing to express my strong opposition to the plan to extend the Sugar House Streetcar north up 1100 East to 1700 South. As a resident of Wilson Avenue between 1000 and 1100 East, I can tell you that this is indeed a line going nowhere, ending at a terminus that is not a destination, and impeding vehicle traffic on a street that has only two lanes and is already congested. Mayor Becker's plan to someday extend the line over to the 9th and 9th area, then over to TRAX at 900 East and 400 South, extends public transportation into a neighborhood already well-served by public transit. Councilman Simonsen's plan is far superior: extend the line up 2100 South to eventually connect with Foothill Drive, then proceed north on Foothill to connect to TRAX at the University of Utah. This plan serves at least two high-traffic destinations immediately, Sugarhouse Park and Highland High School, and connects the east bench to the rest of the city via public transit. The plan also makes use of streets that have four lanes and can better accommodate a streetcar line. Please add my voice to the voices of the many residents calling for Council support of Soren Simonsen and Charlie Luke's plan for Steve Brinton City Council & Mayor, As a business and property owner in Salt Lake City, I am very concerned about the various proposals for the extension of the new TRAX line. I have read the favored route which runs North on 11th and contend it is a route to nowhere and serves no real purpose. The congestion along an already crowded 11th east would force traffic away from the area not enhance the appeal of the area. Many of the businesses would lose there limited street parking along with the congestion might force many of these unique businesses to relocate elsewhere. I am in favor of the TRAX going to the east which would serve the most important asset in the area, Sugar House Park. In addition, in the future it would provide a link to the eastern portion of the SLC area and the many needs along 21st south to foothill blvd. 21st South also has the size necessary to accomodate the new line. The letter from Soren Simonsen is a very detailed and thoughtful report on this proposed route. Please except my response and support in favor of the proposed route eastward on 21st south. Steve Brinton Mark O. Morris To whom it may concern. I live in the Rosslyn Heights neighborhood around 2100 South and 1900 East. The idea to bring trax to sugarhouse is terrific. There are rail lines that already exist, and it will doubtless help the business district there grow and hopefully turn into something beneficial for all. The idea of taking the line further north, or east, however, is odious. 1100 East barely has room for two lanes, let alone a trax line running down the middle of the street. And 2100 South is already maxed out with car traffic. The disruption of building another branch line up the road as far east as the Walmart? Insupportable. Utilizing a rail route that has fallen into disuse is a great idea for existing resources, with a relatively light incremental burden on the areas affected. Ruining a quintessential residential area with construction and rail that will become a permanent blight on the neighborhood aesthetics we enjoy in the neighborhood is bad policy, a waste of money, and can’t be retaken. Don’t go there. See how this idea works with the crowd in the Avenues. When trax goes up into the Avenues and provides a stop at the Shriner’s hospital – that’s when the Clifford and Vena Childs We live in District Six. We want to express our opinion about the proposals for streetcar extension. We strongly agree with the opinion that it should go east to 1300 East and Sugar House Park with a further extension to Highland High School. The proposal to go north on 1100 East to 1700 South should be abandoned. The intersection of 2100 S and Highland Drive would NOT be improved with additional congestion. Already we find ourselves avoiding Sugar House and especially that route because of congestion. Service to the north can be handled with better planning and different choices. Thank you for listening to our opinion. Clifford and Vena Childs Greg Sumner Greetings My wife and I support Simon Sorensons concept for the Sugarhouse Trolly alignment . Thank you, Greg Sumner Patricia Rickers My dear friend was on the council years ago, Gayen Wharton. I have lived here over thirty years on Ramona Avenue, first street off of 21st South/1100 East.. Besides being the go to street when 21st South is crowded. We have Westminster students parking on the street as well as students in a hurry traveling down 1100 east and turning right on 17th South even if there is no room for them to turn. Now we have people on Ramona Avenue creating apartments out of the old houses (primary residence) when there is already quite a number of apartments on the street. This creates problems with parking. Now what is a streetcar going to do on 1100 East?? Julie Hall Dear Soren: Thank you for your letter informing us of the public hearing for the Sugarhouse steetcar project. When my wife & I first heard about the Sugarhouse streetcar project, we thought that it seemed like a quaint idea for relieving some of the car traffic on 2100 So into the Sugarhouse business district from the west. We never thought, however, that it would have enough justification for the $26 million price tag since was not really supposed to be a mass transit system, but just a tourist attraction for Sugarhouse. We think that this much of the project is all that can really be justified. A streetcar system should not be turned into a major transit system through our neighborhood!! We see no reason to extend this to the north or to the east. First of all, to go with the council’s recommendation to the north on Highland Drive/1100 east would eliminate that street from any car traffic. The street is just too narrow! Is this part of the plan to turn this street into pedestrian traffic only? If so, then let it be just pedestrian traffic and not fill up the street with tracks, wires, and noisy trolley cars. Secondly, from your letter it sounds like you are in favor of extending this I want to express my support for the trax/rail extension to continue up 2100 S. I am a resident in the country club neigborhood and would like to see more convenient public transportation access. thanks, Jeremy Rigby Thank you for asking for my input. I am not in favor of the 2100 s route. I think it would be too congested. Julie Silver After reading the letter sent to my home by Councilman Simonsen we want to let you know that we strongly OPPOSE a rail spur going up 2100 South. Every reason given for extending this rail spur can be fixed by good bus routes Gil and Susan Coulam Jeremy Rigby Nancy Rawlinson & Jolene Kniffing Both my sister (who lives with me--Nancy Rawlinson) and I (Jolene Kniffing) who live at 1195 Whitlock Avenue, Salt Lake City, Utah 84106, expected and really want the TRAX line to continue east just as Soren Simonsen mentioned. When she said the plans were for it to go north along Highland Drive to 17th South, our enthusiasm for it went down the drain. We really need it to go east. Thanks, Soren, for your very insightful kindness in letting us know what is being planned so that we can be part of our government. I wish all government would do this instead of assuming everyone agrees with decisions. I haveitsowned a home (2215 S 2000 E) in Gerard Kies Sugar House since 1976 and have been delighted to see construction progress on the first phase of the Streetcar Project. Congratulations! I’m writing to let you know that I strongly favor the eastbound option over the northbound route for the following reasons: Avoids more congestion at 2100 S/1100 East—give the longsuffering businesses in that area a respite. Enhances interface with other means of public transportation. Connects with recreational (Sugar House Park), educational (Highland High) and business (several along 2100 South) destinations. Offers east bench residents an attractive means to access shopping options without fouling the air with automotive emissions. Provides a logical route for future phases of the project. Is less expensive; certainly gives “a bigger bang for the buck―than the northbound option. It’s uphill to the east: Offers a pleasant alternative to bicyclists (2100 South/2700 South are both narrow and heavily-travelled by autos) and seniors (I invite any of you to walk the hill along Wilmington—no storefront businesses here, unlike along 1100 East—with me). The northbound Maggie Kasten & Robert Mecklenburg To the City Council: We wish to express our support for the Sugar House Streetcar route continuing east up 2100 S. towards Sugar House Park. It seems to us this route would serve the community to a greater extent than proceeding north on 1100 East. The park is a great destination and a cornerstone for the Sugar House neighborhood. We think it merits significant weight when considering local public transportation. We also think the 2100 S. route would encourage many of us East Bench residents to take the Streetcar to the shops and restaurants farther west in Sugar House and spur an expanded sense of community. Thanks, Maggie Kasten & Robert Mecklenburg Sugar House residents Cameron Dolcourt Dear City Council, Thank you for providing the opportunity to provide comments on the proposed streetcar line. I live in District 7 in a condominium complex near Highland drive and 2400 South. I read Councilman Simonsen's well-reasoned letter and agree that running the street car to 1300 east provides far more benefits and far fewer problems, the biggest of which being the very narrow drive on 1100 east. The streetcar will kill the businesses along that road because nobody will want to or be able to drive down the street. But taking the streetcar to 1300 East will allow far greater access to shopping, the park, and bus routes, which will encourage better usage of mass transit. Thank you for considering the voices of those who this will affect. Sincerely, Cameron Dolcourt Natalie Angle Dear Salt Lake City Council, I'm writing in strong opposition to the proposed route of the Sugar House streetcar turning north on 1100 East from 2100 South. Extending the line from 2100 East to 1700 South is an incredibly short-sighted move, and it's clear to me that the person(s) who proposed this, do not live in this area. North of 2100 South is mostly RESIDENTIAL, and I do not see the sense or value in running a streetcar line, on an already narrow and congested road, to go...where? Nowhere. It would take incredible effort to make this streetcar arrive at any meaningful destination as it would be forced to travel further mostly through residential neighborhoods for an extended distance to get to any businesses. Furthermore, it would change the dynamic of a residential area to a more business feel, which would make it far more dangerous for bicycles and pedestrians in this charming and pedestrian-friendly area. I support District 7's representative, Mr. Soren Simonsen, and agree with him that the most reasonable, logical, and forward-thinking route, would run the line East-West, proceeding to Sugar House Park, and beyond. The road can accommodate it. There is already a shortage Greg Goldberg Thank you for the letter about the Sugar House Streetcar. I agree to what you are saying. Like others, I believe that 1100 E. is also too narrow in that area to provide for both car and streetcar (especially around the post office), in addition to the things you said about about who really needs the service on the East side. Adjustment of the bus services on 1100 E., like you stated, is the easiest way to go for all of us. There is just one problem with the possible expansion: How is the One street car going to be able to handle the expansion by itself. Right now the current street car can handle the back and forth shuttle with a decent time allowance for scheduled trips, but an expansion with just one, I believe, won't work; not unless you add a side-track halfway on the route for a Second Trolley to move unto while the other passes by to keep the scheduling normal. I believe the current streetcar can go to Highland Dr. but should not cross it (considering it is not much wider different that 1100 E). People can then walk the block and one-half to a second trolley on 2100 S.that is going up to and down from the Parley's area (eventually). Currently, on 400 S., people have to walk at least that Elise Boeke Hello, I understand that the sugarhouse street car route will be discussed at the council meeting on April 23rd. I would like to submit my comment that I believe the best route for the street car should extend east to Highland High or beyond and not go north up 1100 east to 1700 South. As a user of public transportation I believe this will be more useful to a greater number of people. I also shop, dine and recreate in the sugarhouse area and feel anything that adds congestion along 1100 east would not be in the best interest for the sugarhouse area overall. Thanks for the opportunity to comment. Jolene Kniffing i am a sugarhouse resident and am against extending the streetcar further east on 2100 south. i ride a bike to work and/or use the bus, and feel extending the streetcar service will only add to vehicle congestion and make commuting via bicycle more dangerous. thanks daines family Yes, I would very much like to receive periodic email updates about important City events and issues from my Council Member. Thanks! Ryan & Diane Creamer We are residents on the East end of Sugarhouse and want to express concerns regarding the proposed streetcar for 1100 East and the Sugarhouse area. It seems unnecessary and wasteful to add additional infrastructure when current mass transit options are being grossly under utilized. We feel that the proposed phase 2 and additional proposed phases require additional studies and that honoring the wishes of the residents and business owners is paramount, even if it means discontinuation of future projects. Ryan & Diane Creamer Morgan Daines Jeff Pickett, CPA/ABV Dear Salt Lake City Council Members: I live in District 7 and have lived here for nearly 30 years. I drive along 2100 South every day and, consequently, am very familiar with the traffic patterns along this street. I recently received a letter from my council member, Soren Simonsen regarding the proposal to extend the line north along 1100 East and his proposal to extend the line to Highland High School. I am concerned about both of these proposals. I am greatly concerned about extending the Streetcar line beyond McClelland Street and north along 1100 East for the following reasons: (1) 1100 East is a narrow street that is already extremely congested. While a streetcar will reduce some traffic, I do not believe it would reduce traffic enough to offset the loss of one or more lanes. (2) The 2100 S/1100 E intersection is very busy. I drive through that intersection everyday during rush hour and cannot imagine how busy it would be with lane restrictions due to a streetcar line. (3) The destination serves a very limited population (2,500 students at Westminster) who need to travel a short distance to a single destination. While I recognize that there may be a need for these students, it Gaylen Hasson As a resident of Sugarhouse for over 15 years in the Rosslyn Heights neighborhood and thinking seriously about the issue of expanding the trolley from McClelland north or east I would prefer to see the expansion go north along 1100 East. I am not convinced it even needs to go directly to Sugarhouse Park - in other cities people seem ok with walking a couple of blocks or more from transit stops to points of interest. That being said I would I would support postponing this immediate decision until the city wide public transportation plan is completed. Thank you, Gaylen Hasson Jen Colby Dear Council Members, Recent news articles and editorials have prompted this letter about the Sugarhouse streetcar route decision. My husband and I live in a dense, walkable and bikeable neighborhood near the University of Utah with great transit options and bought our house specifically for this reason. Sugarhouse is a frequent destination by bus, bike, and car for shopping, dining, visiting friends, and recreation (yeah Sugarhouse Park!), so this debate matters to us. Please note that these are my personal comments and do not reflect those of my employer or any civic groups with which I may be affiliated. A recent visit to downtown Sugarhouse to check out the streetcar progress to date and take a closer look at route options made it clear to me that the eastward 2100 S extension (whether on 2100 S from McClelland or the option to reach 1300 E a bit further south, then turn north to 2100, then back east) is the best one for multiple reasons. Streetcars should primarily be designed as another component of an integrated public transportation network. They should not harm or otherwise interfere with existing transportation facilities, such as Kirk Huffaker Dear Council Members, On behalf of Utah Heritage Foundation, I submit the following comments in regards to which option should be the locally preferred alternative for the next segment of the Sugar House Streetcar. I believe that neither option will be good for historic preservation because both options will lead to the demolition of historic buildings on an accelerated timeline. As we’ve seen in the past, the installation of each new transit line is followed by an upzone along the entire corridor. We are seeing this happen right now with the currently proposed zoning changes along the existing Sugar House Streetcar line. This will undoubtedly lead to the demolition of historic structures and the degradation of existing single-family neighborhoods. If the past holds true, the streetcar extension will also mean the demolition of countless historic structures. Along 1100 East, an extension would mean the disintegration (if not elimination) of the quaint character of local businesses in former single-family houses and in neighborhood commercial scale structures. Single story commercial landmarks as well as residential structures (R1-5000 and R-1-7000) in the solid residential Jacquelyn havey A STREETCAR TO NOWHERE: the 1100 east streetcar extension. Westminster can run a shuttle for its students to a nearby streetcar station. a future 2100 south extension may even provide a walkable alternative. I support the 2100 south route for all the factors cited by soren simonsen in his april 12 communication to district 7 residents. Jacquelyn havey Elizabeth Giraud, AICP Dear City Council Members: I would like to give you my opinion on the route of the Sugar House streetcar. I don't know why we need the streetcar, but if we have to spend federal money, I vote for eastern route. The businesses along 1100 East sell specialty goods, for the most part. I'm sorry, Councilman LaMalfa, but in response to your comment in the SL Trib this a.m., I don't understand why hair salons, cafes, dance & yoga studios and a post office are any less conducive to driving than any other business. Many of the properties along 1100 E. are zoned Residential/Business (RB), the purpose of which is to create vibrant small scale retail, service, and office uses oriented to the local area within residential neighborhoods along higher volume streets. Development is intended to be oriented to the street and pedestrian, while acknowledging the need for automobile access and parking. You may be charmed by the small scale now, but the streetcar will entice development pressure for larger-scale residential development, and the character of the street and adjoining neighborhoods will be ruined. I know that many City officials would like to see the Shopko area developed Greg Goldberg Thank you for the letter about the Sugar House Streetcar. I agree to what you are saying. Like others, I believe that 1100 E. is also too narrow in that area to provide for both car and streetcar (especially around the post office), in addition to the things you said about about who really needs the service on the East side. Adjustment of the bus services on 1100 E., like you stated, is the easiest way to go for all of us. There is just one problem with the possible expansion: How is the One street car going to be able to handle the expansion by itself. Right now the current street car can handle the back and forth shuttle with a decent time allowance for scheduled trips, but an expansion with just one, I believe, won't work; not unless you add a side-track halfway on the route for a Second Trolley to move unto while the other passes by to keep the scheduling normal. I believe the current streetcar can go to Highland Dr. but should not cross it (considering it is not much wider different that 1100 E). People can then walk the block and one-half to a second trolley on 2100 S.that is going up to and down from the Parley's area (eventually). Currently, on 400 S., people have to walk at least that Troy Anderson I feel that going east with the second phase of the streetcar makes much more sense than going north on Highland to 1700 South. Going east will enable people to ride the streetcar and hook onto bus lines that serve Foothill Boulevard. Also, the amount a businessess that will be serviced by the eastward expansion will be much greater than that of the the Highland proposal. How will Highland work with a streetcar? Rezoning or any development in the 1700s Highland area will be nearly impossible when compared to and east line. Go East. TDA Barry Angstman Dear Council Members, I am writing this email in support of the alternative route (east to Sugar House Park - and on to Highland High school). First, however I want to THANK YOU for your efforts in adding viable public transportation options to the Sugar House area. As a long time resident of the area, I am excited about the future and the economic growth of the area. In the short term, the many visitors to Sugar House Park, and Highland High students would all benefit from the east west route. As far as the long term, I have often felt that public transportation options are needed from our east bench to the University, and Research Park areas. Again, I appreciate your efforts, and am in full support of the route put forth by our Council Member Soren Simonsen. Sincerely, Barry Angstman Mary House Sir, Short and to the point. I was against the trolley to begin with. Now that it is here...at least to Fairmont..I still do not like it. The only extension that I think would work is to bring the trolley to Highland on Sugarmont. That street is one way going west. Close off the street to make for a little plaza or whatever. Use the bus on Highland/11th East. There already is bus service on 2100 South. So, why would you disrupt businesses and traffic to extend the trolley anywhere else? I see this as some political move. It is right up there with the proposed huge theater downtown. Another thing, if you want people to ride the trolley to TRAX and then head to destinations where are the parking lots in Sugarhouse? Every bit of empty space is being built on. Mary House Lauri Duncombe Mr. Simonsen, I appreciate the letter that was sent out regarding this issue. The letter was dated 4/12. I received it in the evening of 4/17. I work 10 hour days and getting to the City and County Building is not viable. The information regarding the proposal is a 2 hour down load over a high speed connection. I do not feel that I have received adequate time to fully digest all of the information or adequate access to the information. I would like to point out that following 2100 South, West of 1300 East is primarily businesses. A “street car―has potential benefits to businesses. Headed east on 2100 South from 1300 East is primarily residential homes. A street car does not benefit the homes, it only serves to further devalue the property. There are no major commerce areas on 2100 south. They are relatively small businesses with a defined area of service. I would like to see the information to support someone taking a streetcar up to Rite Aid or the relatively small Fresh Market when there are other shopping options that would be more locally accessible. I live on 1700 East. The overflow from 1300 East onto 1700 East during the day has dramatically increased the noise Gil and Susan Coulam Dear Soren: Thank you for your letter informing us of the public hearing for the Sugarhouse steetcar project. When my wife & I first heard about the Sugarhouse streetcar project, we thought that it seemed like a quaint idea for relieving some of the car traffic on 2100 So into the Sugarhouse business district from the west. We never thought, however, that it would have enough justification for the $26 million price tag since was not really supposed to be a mass transit system, but just a tourist attraction for Sugarhouse. We think that this much of the project is all that can really be justified. A streetcar system should not be turned into a major transit system through our neighborhood!! We see no reason to extend this to the north or to the east. First of all, to go with the council’s recommendation to the north on Highland Drive/1100 east would eliminate that street from any car traffic. The street is just too narrow! Is this part of the plan to turn this street into pedestrian traffic only? If so, then let it be just pedestrian traffic and not fill up the street with tracks, wires, and noisy trolley cars. Secondly, from your letter it sounds like you are in favor of extending this Margaret Bond Dear Council Members WE have lived in the Sugarhouse area for over fifty years. I have lived in Salt Lake all my life and have use 11th East as a main route to travel and shop for over 65 years. The idea of a trolley on 11th is crazy. You would have to remove trees and nearly all street parking for car lanes and the trolley. Not to mention the stupid bike lanes. The bikes don’t pay property taxes as do cars and they don’t pay license fees. Years ago all bikes were licensed at fire stations by everyone. The trolley if necessary would be much better service as you said going on 21st South to Highland High an beyond. Sugarhouse is a very nice place to shop and walk around the trolley just doesn’t make sense. Not everyone needs or CAN use the trolley. Buses are not even accessible to most residents anymore. So not driving is an option. Please DON’T put the trolley north on 11th East from 21st South. Thank You Margaret Bond Margaret Bond Dear Council The extension plan to run the Trolley north on 11th East is the stupidest idea you could do. The street to too narrow and you would have to remove the trees and all street parking. NOT EVERYONE walks to get places to some the ONLY option is to drive there then walk. Don’t ruin the quaint sense the Sugarhouse now . The only reasonable route would be up 21st South and beyond to the East. Please really consider the future of the area. Sincerely Margaret Bond David and Alice Hornbeck Dear Sir, I am in your district and have received your letter regarding the streetcar. We are very disappointed with public transportation in our 21st South 21 East area. We feel strongly that it would behoove the council to do what they can to achieve decent public transportation service in our area before you go fishing for federal funds for this streetcar that appears more and more like a development scheme and egofeather for the council. We are retired and getting elderly as are many of our neighbors. We would like to have public transport that would get us down town within 45 minutes. We would like to have public transport that did not require us to transfer to do the 40 or so blocks to get downtown and takes an hour besides. We would like to help cut down on air pollution in the valley. How is it that the CEOs of UTA receive such outrageous salaries and still utterly fail to provide the city with decent public transportation? How is it that the SLC Council seems more excited about getting federal funds than they do at helping the city achieve decent public transportation? Whichever way the streetcar goes or however many blocks it continues will not Ferris and Faye Hillyard To: City Counilman Charlie Luke Please Do Not extend streetcars in Sugar House. The streets are too narrow. There is no real purpose in extending the line. Twenty-first South street is already too narrow with no center turn lanes. Eleventh East is also a very narrow street with just two lanes. We see no real purpose in extending a line through Sugar House. We both strongly vote NO. Ferris and Faye Hillyard Perry Frandsen Dear Mr. Simonsen, First, let me thank you for reaching out to the people, property owners and businesses on 1100 East. I own a retail/office building next to the Sugar House Post Office and I appreciate your efforts to include those living and working on 1100 East in the streetcar discussion. I have read your letter of April 12, 2013 in its entirety and thank you for your well thought-out information and stand. I support your logic and approach to the alignment issue and feel that it is the East/West alignments throughout the valley that are lacking and need to be enhanced before consideration is given to additional North/South mass transit routes. Much was said in the recent community council meeting about Berlin and their streetcar system. I lived in Berlin and used ALL mass transit there for transportation throughout the city and concluded that without the bus service being developed, the rest of the system was minimally useful. The streetcars on busy streets became more of a problem to the flow of traffic than they solved and in some cases were redundant to bus service. In the case of Sugar House, the more enhanced bus service that is available to the area, the Dennis R. and Annette L. Weight My wife and I just recently received a letter from Soren Simonsen, Salt Lake City Council Member, District Seven requesting community input for the future expansion of a streetcar line to connect Sugarhouse District. May we say that we agree with every comment made by Mr. Simonsen. Annette and I both feel it would be a big mistake to have the streetcar running on Highland Drive and proceeding on 1100 East to 1700 South. In fact we both laughed that anyone would even consider such a thing. Has anyone tried to get to the Post-office in 1100 East? It is a nightmare. Why would you even consider putting a a streetcar on a road that is already so tiny, cars have difficulty trying to move bumper-to-bumper to get to the 21st stop light. Has anyone tried getting out of the Post-office on to 1100 East? Add a streetcar and you might have to relocate the Post-office Having lived at our 1500 East residence since 1980, we have seen many changes to the Sugar-house area, that we feel we know the area and what is best for it. We saw homes torn down to make room for the shopping area that has spread Northward to 21st South. These business are great. We love having them. However, have Bill and Maryanne Murray Soren: As a resident of the Parley's Way neighborhood for 38 years, I appreciate your recent letter regarding the above referenced issue. My recommendations agree with you that the line should extend East and not North. An 11th East extension will be a nightmare for consumers; commuters; and residents of the area. Why go North when the East part of the city has no transportation other than the poor bus service? In addition, 11th East would have to be widened considerably and businesses would suffer a great deal of lost revenue. It is already difficult to negotiate traffic on 11th East near 21st South. On another issue, we would like to register our disappointment in the new fee for lighting that is now a part of our Water and Sewer bill each month. For us, the amount is about $4.00 per month. We were encouraged to add the light poles on our street as a beautification program for our neighborhood, for which we paid $300 for the installation of the light pole and the required power bill each month. This assessment should have considered the extra tax (that is what it is) burden to the residents of the city. When does it end? What kind of slush fund is this? With the lynda J Brown I can't make the meeting but I would like you to consider the extension to 13th E. 1100 East is already congested and dangerous in several places. It just makes sense to me to keep the neighborhood feel around 2100 S. !3th still is close to Westminister and much closer to their new dorms. It just seems like a great fit to go closer to Sugarhouse Park and shopping also. It would be nice to eventually take it to Highland where the students there could use it also. Might make it easier for their lunchtime runs to Sugarhouse. Smile. Thanks for considering avoiding the 1100 E option which would cause more congestion and change the feel of that area too much. Sincerely, lynda J Brown Mark Vlasic I have read the reports and studies, including the summaries of public input. I would hope that the city council refrains from turning this into a political issue, and embraces the recommendations of the consultants, extending the streetcar line along 1100 East to 1700 South. The study was well formulated and the public preference clearly supports the recommended route. mechel kawai Please support the route that goes to Foothill because it makes it possible for us here (near the Zoo) to access the mass transit system and Foothill is wide enough for it. Don't mess up 11th East, which has a lovely cozy feeling to it. amal kawar Richard Hendron Dear Councilman Simonsen- Having lived and commuted in Sugar House for more than 30 years, the proposed route of the street car extension along 11th East was quite surprising. Today I drove through that area again, just to confirm that the roads and intersections in the area of 2100 South and 1100 East are too narrow and constricted to support that project. There is just too much congestion there today for a safe and pleasant shopping or driving experience. A route eastward along 2100 South is by far the best route for construction and support of a wider traffic corridor. Thank you for both your letter and you recent article in the newspaper suggesting a sensible alignment other than that recommended by the consultants. Sincerely, Richard Hendron Sally Barraclough As a member of the SH Community Council and a citizen of District 7, I have had the opportunity to attend many public outreach meetings regarding the future expansion of the Sugar House Street Car project. I have listened carefully to pros and cons of both the 11th East and 21st South alignments. I believe the best alternative route is North on 11th East for the following reasons. • 11th East to 17th South is already a viable business and housing corridor with many retail shops, restaurants, and housing units. The Sugar House Station Post Office is one the busiest in the city. Putting the Street Car on 21st South in order to spur future economic growth would ignore an already established area of Sugar House. • An 11th East route will relieve the auto congestion in the Sugar House business district. This is critical as we are adding many housing units near this route. • The 11th East route will be a safer route for pedestrians using the Street Car. With one travel lane in each direction north and south, 11th East has a naturally slower traffic flow. 21st South has multiple lanes of traffic with more potential for pedestrians to cross in an unsafe manner to get on the Street Car. • Ilene C. Ferris Dear Council Members, I think it makes so much sense to extend the Street Car north past Sugar House Park because of so much high density housing and the very poor bus service we now have in the area of Sugar House and 21 & 21. Ilene C. Ferris Gail & Phil Clingenpeel We agree with Council Member Soren Simonsen that the streetcar extension should NOT be run along 1100 East. Continuing the line to 1300 East is the most logical and best route. Eleventh East is already difficult enough to navigate, especially during the rush hours. Thirteenth East would connect to many more stores that have greater customer usage than the ones along Eleventh East. Thank you for your consideration. Gail & Phil Clingenpeel Cindy Stroh It seems to us that the idea of placing public transportation down 1100 East is a really bad idea. The street is already small and congested. We have lived on 1100 East and own property on 1100 East and it is practically impossible to enter the street from the driveways the way it is. It is far more reasonable because of stream of traffic accessing Sugarhouse Park and Highland High School to use Option #2! Trudy Oliver, Ph.D. Dear Salt Lake City Council, I am writing about a very important issue to me, which I would love to talk about in person at the April 23rd City Council meeting, but I am unable to attend due to a faculty dinner with the University of Utah via my work. Over the last few weeks, I have heard about the possible extension of a streetcar along 1100 East. I live at 1233 Kensington Ave, so this would directly impact my travel on 1100 East which is already congested, but slightly less so than my other alternative, 1300 East. I can summarize my feelings by saying that I whole-heartedly agree with Mr. Soren Simonsen who recently sent a letter to District Seven. In short, a streetcar along 1100 East is being called "the Streetcar to Nowhere" among my friends and neighbors. This would be an incredibly short-sighted move because it would take incredible effort to make this streetcar arrive at any meaningful destination as it would be forced to travel mostly through residential neighborhoods. The best, more forwardthinking alternative would be to route the streetcar along 2100 South, which would have attractive destinations like Sugarhouse Park, Highland High School, businesses along John Bouzek Good Morning Charlie, Hope all is well with you and your family. I am contacting you regarding the future of public transit in the 21st and 21st neighborhood. From my understanding the future of a trolley line a or light rail spur is being decided at this time. Can you tell me how I find out more information about this and how I can make my voice heard. With the ever growing congestion on Foothill Blvd., 2100 East, and Walmart's contribution to the congestion, I believe a Trolley line running up 2100 South would help alleviate some of these issues. I also believe this spur would foster continued growth for the 21st and 21st business district, and the other small businesses flanking 2100 South. It is wise for us to look forward to solve the problems facing us today. I look forward to your guidance. Thanks, John Bouzek Blue Plate Diner steve alder Charlie, thanks for coming to the Foothill Focus meeting and sharing the information on the Sugar House street car proposal. I have a studio at the Rockwood building that is south of the monument. I get there pretty often,. I have also reviewed the circulation study. My first reaction is that this phase 2c route is proceeding before there has been much public debate about the circulation plan. Has it been adopted? I think most people are not aware of the traffic diet proposed for 21st South and (just like on Sunnyside) there will be wailing when it is imminent. Other aspects of the circulation study need to be considered too. The intersections at 1100 and 2100 is very bad and the effect of creating a monument open area and removing the right turn lane will not only increase the congetion but reduce parking. (Parking is a real problem right now, due to the closing of the old Granite Furniture lot and the loss of street parking surrounding that block) I have no idea if the parking in the future will be as bad but if it is that will decrease the attraction of the area. One of the ciruclation study options was a new street connecting Willmington across 1100 east (from the Boys and Girls Club -Jackie Solon I’m in favor of the East-West spur of the sugarhouse line to highland high. It’s a much more future-oriented plan. Thanks for your thoughtful email, -Jackie Solon Noreen McDonald Hello Mayor and Council Members-- I am very concerned about the plan to extend the streetcar line along Highland Drive/1100 East. This corridor is very narrow and congested-- particularly where it intersects 2100 South--and therefore does not seem like a reasonable option for a streetcar line. Why not extend the line east along the southern edge of Sugar House Park and then have it turn north along 1700 East? This scenic alternative would directly serve the businesses of Sugar House, Fairmont and Sugar House park- goers, Highland High School students and it would put Westminster College within easy walking distance. Please explain your vision of placing a streetcar along this Highland Drive/1100 East. Thank you, Noreen McDonald Voter & Sugar House resident Ashley Eddington Hoopes Hi Charlie, I agree with you on this one. With the Wilmington option is there any way to joint venture with PRATT and the Sugarhouse draw and trail plans. I hope to see you at the meeting. Maurine Agree with you on bringing the line east. I would be happy to help garner support for this idea. Thanks for all you do. Ashley Eddington Hoopes Brent Maxfield Charlie, Thank you for the update. I agree with your analysis. I agree with you. I think it is looking more into the future having the east extension. Brent Maxfield Andrew Beelen Charlie, I agree 100% with your position on the Sugarhouse street car. Keep up the good work! Andrew Beelen Maurine Bachman Michael Jaffe I would agree that going to highland high would be great. Westminster 20 year olds can walk 3 blocks easily. Michael Jaffe MD Physical Medicine Rehabilitation I agree with every and single point you have Judi Short made. In fact, it sounds like the conversation I had with Jill, although I did say it was shortsighted not to include the east line, even though it might not be the first priority. I immediately regretted that, but decided it could be left alone until we hear how April 23 comes out. (I'm going to need a Twitter lesson before then!) I think she is hell-bent for having a shovel ready project in case Tiger or some other Federal transportation funds become available. Do you have four votes? or three votes and someone we can lean on? I'm going to try to rally the developers and get them to write in even if they don't come on April 23. You are welcome to come to our April 3 SHCC meeting to hear public comments, we are trying to rattle the bushes and get folks to show up. We are also having a combined SHCC Land Use Committee and SHCC Transportation Committee on April 15 at 6 p.m. at Sprague, to perhaps come up with more details as we refine our position. The SHCC will take a straw poll on a number of questions, counting every person in attendance, rather than just the trustees. Let me know what else I can do. Judi Noreen McDonald Thank you, Charlie! I am in hearty agreement with your ideas and have posted my support on the city's website. I hope to see you on the 23rd. Best, Noreen George Chapman Proposed note to go to 11th E. on streetcar route As promised, I am enclosing a proposed note that I will pass around the area. Most of the 60+ business owners that I talked to in the last week on 11th E. were against the route because they did not believe that they could survive construction. I did pass along to SLC, individuals who could better address construction mitigation loans but in general most small businesses are not optimistic about working to survive the construction. Businesses that are just barely surviving are concerned about the 2 block traffic backup now and expect traffic hassles to get worse before they get better. I did complain to many that the streetcars are presently set as Siemens S70 vehicles which are like TRAX. Robin Hutcheson pointed out that the vehicles are sold as streetcars and light rail. And.... they super duper promised that the streetcars on future routes would not be like TRAX or Siemens S70. Robin Hutcheson has diligently sold the position of the eventual 11th E. routing. But I still believe that without a devil's advocate position pointing out the problems, the decision will be flawed. It concerns me that the other side has not been given enough Jill A. Thomas Hi Charlie, First, thanks for being such an excellent council member for my district. At times, you seem to be the only voice of reason on the city council! I'm sure you've read Luke Garrott's op-ed piece in today's Trib. It's spot on. I agree with Mr. Garrott before any more plans are made for the Sugar House trolley, there must be a master plan. Extending the trolley down 11 East will have a huge impact on residents in our area. The idea needs to be studied carefully, and future plans must be made with plenty of citizen input. Ramrodding this through is just plain wrong. I hope you support this idea. Kind regards, Jill A. Thomas Jill Thomas I would be thrilled for you to share my email with your colleagues. I read your idea about extending the trolley via Wilmington/Shopko thru Sugar House Park to 1700th E and avoiding the busy 1300E and 1100E intersections on 2100S. It's a brilliant idea! I would love to be able to walk 3 blocks and have access to TRAX. I believe that others in my neighborhood would agree. Mayor Becker and the city council need to understand that residents of Sugar House need to be able to drive their cars to the businesses in Sugar House without facing a traffic nightmare. While I'm an avid walker and frequent bike rider, I can't walk to Smith's from my house and tote home a week's worth of groceries. I can't walk or bike to Fiddler's for dinner, unless I leave my husband at home - he's not a walker or biker. Traffic is a mess now; closing lanes to add a trolley could create complete gridlock. I love the Sugar House businesses and would hate to have to head east to shop and dine. I suggest that the mayor and city council visit the area at 12 noon and 5 pm. It's an eyeopener with all the traffic, but it may help them realize the importance of keeping all traffic lanes intact. I will definitely attend the Patricia Franz Hello, I live at 1776 Hollywood Ave, just 2 blocks north from 2100 South. I just received a flyer showing the proposed expansion of the Sugar House Streetcar. I vote NO for adding a 2100 South (starting at 1100 East and heading east). My reasons are as follows: 1. The impact this will have on the neighborhood alone will be horribly detrimental to home owners in that area. Our homes will instantly decrease in value. 2. What about the cost to widen the street from 1700 E and up towards Parleys. (Our tax dollars at work? Cut the elderly or school funding?) 3. How many homes will be affected along 2100 South in that stretch? If you have surveyed the area you know 2100 South goes from quite wide, beginning at 1300 E, but at 1700 E it becomes a one lane road. 4. Are houses going to be condemned so they can be sold at a lower price? 5. Are you going to cut off a major portion of the homeowners front property to make room for Trax and car traffic? These are just a few of the concerns many of us in this area have regarding your proposal.. Also, how do I get a say in what goes on at Salt Lake City Council? I am very interested having a voice in what happens in my area. Thank you, MaryLou Crawford Roger Lager Hi Charlie! I am a grateful resident of District Six – grateful because you are our representative! Our wonderful Bonneville Hills Community Council Chair, Ellen Reddick, forwarded your message about the Sugar House Streetcar plans. I’ve read your proposal and agree wholeheartedly with your observations. Please add my vote of support as one of your grateful constituents. Thanks again! MaryLou Crawford Test Comment MaryLou Crawford Hi Charlie! I am a grateful resident of District Six – grateful because you are our representative! Our wonderful Bonneville Hills Community Council Chair, Ellen Reddick, forwarded your message about the Sugar House Streetcar plans. I’ve read your proposal and agree wholeheartedly with your observations. Please add my vote of support as one of your grateful constituents. Thanks again! MaryLou Crawford Jeanie McAllister Dear Charlie, I'm with you! Yes on a 21st South extension for the Sugarhouse street car for all the reasons and more you listed. (The proposed 11th East extension serves no short-term or long-term purpose--who are these "planners?") You're absolutely right about the east bench being "terribly underserved!" Wish I could be at the April 23rd meeting, but I'll be in Houston instead. Your District 6 Communications are always very helpful and I read them word for word. You most often take stands I support which makes me doubly glad I voted for you when you were unknown to me but highly recommended by a former city councilman. Many thanks for keeping us informed and representing us so admirably. Best regards, Jeanie McAllister J Bennion Mr Luke The street car idea if it will be like San Francisco is extremely stupid in our winter environment. California spends over 8 million dollars settling lawsuits over its trolley system. Buses are more suited for residential/ business areas. because they can maneuver around and move with traffic. It is to bad buses have such a bad stigma that people won't ride them. More should be done to promote that ridership because routes can be changed as needed. Trolley lines can't. There should be no trolley on 21st south at all or on11th or 13th east Traffic is way to bad their already and will only get worse. J Bennion Guilkey, James Hi Charlie, My .02 on the streetcar. I've appreciated your fiscal realism on other of the Mayor's projects. While I haven't really seen the plans for paying for this, but I certainly hope that it isn't on the back of another property tax increase (and yes, I consider the theater downtown to be a tax increase, not a resource shift as Ralph would like us to view it). Also, if the extension does go forward, I hope that the affected business owners get proportionally more consideration in weighing the options (sounds like a done deal, actually). I spoke to a business owner who was protesting the 1100 East corridor. For those folks, it isn't just a matter of this being a nifty, quaint or convenient amenity for the city, it affects their livelihood, that has to be given additional gravity over the rest of us. At least some of them clearly don't want it. Thanks, Jim John March Be practical – the street car is not needed, will cause vehicle congestion, will improve what? All the current systems are losing money and we (politicians) continue this. It’s time to be practical. Marchthe I am adamantly opposed to John extending Jan Brittain Sugar House Streetcar line north on 11th East. I think it should continue east to 1300 East and stop right there around Shopko. To me, the whole thing is a giant waste of taxpayer money. We already have bus service that is too infrequent and too expensive. Instead of building more, why isn’t the money being used to make the current system usable? We’re not Portland. If I wanted to live in Portland I would. STOP IMPORTING PORTLAND TO SALT LAKE CITY. We have our own unique character and we’re a great city. As is. That said, if the City Council is determined to extend the Sugar House Streetcar, I wish they would consider a streetcar/trolley bus/jitney bus that travels between Sugar House and Foothill Drive on 2100 South/Parley’s Way. Ideally the route would go from the streetcar terminal, past Sugar House Park, up Parley’s Way to Stringham, then up Stringham to Foothill Drive, down Foothill Drive to Parley’s Way and back to Sugar House. This route would serve Walmart customers and employees, Foothill Place apartments, Foothill Family Clinic and the office buildings Sheila O'Driscoll Councilman Luke: Please be advised that a good number of residential property owners along 2100 south in the SHCC Dilworth district will be encouraged to contact you and other city council members regarding the possibility of a streetcar line on 2100 South headed east from the S H Business District. Many are not happy about not being aware of this possibility and do NOT favor a streetcar on this street between 13th east and 23rd east. Sincerely, Sheila O'Driscoll Roger Jones Dear Mr. Luke, Thanks for the message re. the streetcar route. I attended the community council meeting this week at the Foothill Library. In your absence Søren Simonsen presented his information and preferences for the potential continuation of the streetcar route. After your mailed message, I sent the following to the city council as a whole: "City Council: Please consider that the most useful continuation of the Sugar House Streetcar route would track east up 21st South, then further to the business area up Parley's Way which now includes medical & commercial offices, Wallmart, Cowboy Grub, and a dense apartment complex. On the way it could serve Highland High School and the many businesses strung out along along that route. Roger Jones 2720 St. Mary's Way Salt Lake City, Utah 84108-2040 801 5819576" Thanks for your efforts, Roger Jones Lee and Karen Matthews Thank you for the mailing you sent regarding the public hearing on April 23. It is very informative, easy to read and understand and very much appreciated. We are not in favor of the recommended route along 1100 East. It will destroy the small businesses that have struggled along that street. While it does serve Westminster, the benefit ends there. We recommend No. 2 on your message and agree that it would be a possible opening for future expansion. Lee and Yes, Karen it doesMatthews and it has needed to do for Sheila O'Driscoll years. One of the first meetings I had with the planner assigned to Sugar House when I became a trustee was on the lousy way the city gave notice to the residents about changes that the city wanted to implement. There are two things that I have found that people agree on no matter what other differences that they have: 1. They want to feel and be safe in their homes and neighborhoods. 2. They want their personal property respected. I realize that it seems to be the popular thing in city government now to "urbanize" the downtown as well as the Sugar House Business District. I personally don't like an urban lifestyle. I've witnessed for 19 years the great ideas that people want to bring into a community and have too many times seen the failure to deliver in the end. I was very open minded and naive when I became a trustee. Now, I have a much more skeptical attitude about the reality that we will actually receive the proposed and expected benefits promised. I ask a lot more questions, am not embarrassed to appear stupid, and expect objective, valid,reliable and detailed answers from those who think their ideas are going to be D.B. Bell Roger Lager I appreciate your mailer and discussion on this issue. I am in agreement that the 2100 Eastbound would make more sense both in the long term and in the construction issues. My concern all along with the 1100 East route is the width and congestion along 1100 East. That street is already too narrow and by adding the rail line will certainly impact this existing issue. Likewise with suggesting the Westminster College as an ending or destination point. Most people attending Westminster, live at the student housing (some of which would be very close to the 2100 route anyway) or they are using vehicles to commute and I seriously doubt the streetcar line would significantly impact the commuter students. However, many Highland high school students currently and will continue to need public transportation coming from both south & west of the high school. Since these students reside and are citizens or children of actual city citizens, I would offer that providing a service to them is of a greater need than providing this service to students of a private academic institution. Likewise, I agree with your assessment that Sugarhouse Park is a destination that should receive priority. That Test Comment Sheila O'Driscoll Charlie, Thank you for taking me seriously. I have a number of neighbors that are Not happy even with the idea of it going to 17th East. There has been way too little input from the people who live in this area thus far! I will read the notice you mailed out and have my concerns written ASAP. I have lived on the same corner in this neighborhood for over 26 years. I have been actively participating on the Sugar House Community Council for 19 years. If this proposal was for a street in front of your house would you consider the way this has been handled appropriate? I hope to meet you Tuesday. Sheila O'Driscoll Sent from my iPad > Sheila, > > Thanks for your email. I look forward to the emails and would be happy to talk to people as well. > > I, too, have a lot of concerns with the meager public outreach and involvement on the streetcar issue. That is why I am going out of my way to communicate the alignment possibilities and encourage people to voice their opinions before or at the city council meeting on Tuesday. Without some members of the council raising these issues with our constituents the decision would have been reached with very little public input. Byron Gibbs The printed announcement that the north extension through the 13th East St. bottleneck "is the recommended route" is a demonstration of feeble thinking. That section of the 13th East North South principle valley long highway is already a nightmare for traffic at busy times. To add a street car to this bottle necked traffic seems almost insane to me. What is the competence of the people doing the long range planning for the Salt Lake City Council?.....for Salt Lake County street planning....for Utah State highway planning? Or is it a competition of whims of the various residents that will be affected? What's the process? Byron Gibbs Alice Marsh Charlie Luke, Personally I think we ought to take a break and open the proposed line and see how it fits the area. Why do we have to continue the line right now? Is there some emergency. Like you commented, 2100 South and 11th East are so congested now you can hardly get through to where you want to go. Now with eating places opening in the old Granite Furniture there is practically no parking in the area. As to continuing the line up 11th East to 17th South--just where were they thinking of putting the line--they would have to close 11th E because there is no space now let alone with a streetcar line in the center. And, what for? There is nothing on 17th South to go to. I feel like I'm not making too much sense, but I can't imagine what a mess it would be even to extend the line up to Sugarhouse Park or Highland High. You asked us to respond and I hope my comments help in your quest. Sincerely, Alice Marsh aimee adamson Dear Councilman Luke: I strongly support the extension of the Sugarhouse Streetcar up Wilmington to Sugarhouse Park. I do NOT support the extension up 1100 East. 1100 East is already very congested; adding the streetcar will only make a bad situation worse. Sugarhouse Park is an important destination; having the streetcar stop two blocks short of the park greatly diminishes the utility of the streetcar. I appreciate your interest and proactive involvement in this issue. Sheldon Furst Hey, Just want to put my vote in for the route going up 21st south toward 17th east! aimee adamson LEXIE POLLICK In today's paper there were comments from the city's west side. They must not understand local traffic. Several times a week I travel 11th East and 9th East to 21st S. and back to 17th So. This is what I see: Eleventh through 17th So. is OK. From there to 21st S. is simply awful. I generally turn down a side street and weave around to my destination. Twenty First is horrible and dangerous. I have seen many rear-enders going both E and West. This is from 13th E pretty much to 7th E. Travelling north, I generally take a side street to 17th S. and then go East. For what it's worth, I don't see how 21st S. or 11th E. could handle any more traffic be it autos, bikes, pedestrians etc., especially with all the new condos going up. We have given up too much space to bikers--I did see one yesterday! They don't observe traffic laws and are a danger to themselves and drivers. Sheldon Furst Mark Williamson and Debie Williamson Sterling Furniture Company 2051 South 1100 East Salt Lake City, Utah 801 467-1579 A Heritage of Quality Furniture Since 1875 Salt Lake City Council 451 South State Street, Room 304 PO Box 145476 Salt Lake City UT 84114-5476 April 20, 2013 Dear Council Member, We appreciate your efforts in participating in our city’s government and sacrificing the time and energy to serve on the Salt Lake City Council. We appreciate your dedication to make Salt Lake City a viable and prosperous community. At this time we would ask you to take the time to consider our feelings concerning Sugar House and the 1100 East Streetcar Whereas Sterling Furniture Company is a property owner and a member of the Sugar House Community and has been doing consistently engaged in business on the corner of 2100 South and 1100 East for over 70 years. And whereas Sterling Furniture Company has participated actively in the Sugar House Business District and have actively participated as members of the Sugar House Merchants Association. And whereas, Mark currently serves is the CFO, and Debie has directed the Annual Sugar House Art Festival since 2005. And whereas Sterling Furniture Mary Jane Chase Thank you for the opportunity to express my concerns. I disagree with your position, but unfortunately will be unable to attend the open meeting. I'm responding to the points you raised in the flyer that was sent to my home. 1) With the completion of the Draw this year, access to Sugar House Park would become easier from 11th east. People will no longer have to cross 13th east to access the park and will be able to get to the 11th east extension easily. 2) There is no extension that won't have some traffic issues. With sufficient ridership, the streetcar will reduce traffic, not add to it, as it takes out unnecessary traffic in this area. 3) This is true, but connecting the streetcar to the shopping areas of 9th and 9th and hopefully eventually 400 south makes more sense than creating another deadend for public transportation. 4) But this is just as good a reason to go on 1100 East. 5) We have a generation of potential users right now at Westminster College. A careful study of where Highland High students live will demonstrate that there are far fewer potential users there than at Westminster. This has the added potential of relieving traffic as 100s of faculty, students, and staff Mary Spaid Hello - We moved to Salt Lake City in 1997. We used to be able to walk a very short distance to mulitiple bus stops (on 2300 East and 2100 South). Now, we need to go up to Foothill Blvd or 2100 East. The neighbor's kids (older than mine) always took the bus to school. My kids used to take TRAX to school (West High School). They only transfered to the bus as a last resort, since it meant a 15 minute walk with their backpacks at the end of what became a very long day. Then the University TRAX line stopped going directly to the Arena, so they don't take TRAX at all. We drive. Just once, could our neighborhood be conveniently served by public transportation? Please choose 2100 South for the Sugarhouse Streetcar. I would love to not have to drive (and park!) along this congested route to shop and dine. thank you Mary Spaid MARILYN HELEN MARTIN I STRONGLY vote for ,"Possible Routes" exactly, 2100 South and 2300 East or to Foothill village....Foothill Village is a great idea. Reason: The east area has no option regarding streetcar activity. We cannot park at the U and it would be almost impossible to walk down to Sugarhouse park or below. Please listen to my request. This is an important issue. I am sorry I cannot attend the meeting because of surgery previously scheduled. Please let my voice be heard. Margaret Hi, Charlie, it's your friend and supporter, Margaret Davidson, begging you to not allow a Trax line on 2300 East. Never. Never. Never. House valued would be zero. I think it shouldn't go on 2100 East, either. If it goes up 2100 South, which makes the most sense; it should go all the way to Foothill Drive and along Foothill. If it goes up 1700 South-again, ruining house values--it should go to Foothill. Margaret Mr SorenThanks. Simonsen, Mr Charlie Luke Just Ana Holt recently, about a week ago, we received mention that the city council is attempting to implement a street car on our street 2100 S 1700 East. We are a young couple raising three young children. We have nothing against public transportation, in fact, my husband and I are very happy customers of TRAX and UTA, we own only one car, so we ride the bus on our street on daily basis. It is for this main reason that we see no need for extra public transportation right on our street, we already have four different routes relatively near our area routes 21, 223, 220, and 213 for those who need public transportation like us. We don’t understand your intentions. Why to waste funds on areas that are already covered by UTA? Would it not be easier to look for ways to enhance the service they already provide without altering the peace on our neighborhood street which we already have to endure living on a busy street? We appreciate your good intentions for improving public transportation but feel that implementing the street car on 2100 South and 1700 East and farther east not only is unneeded but will bring a negative impact Mary Beacco Charlie, I would like to see the streetcar go up 2100 S . It would also be nice if 2100S were more bike friendly, but that is probably a long way off. Thank you. Mary Beacco Mark Morris, PLA, LEEDâ„¢AP Council Members, On Thursday, April 11 the Sugar House Park Authority discussed at length in our monthly public meeting the recent re-visiting of the Phase 2 Sugar House Streetcar alignment. I've attached a letter from our board discussing our concerns with the 2100 South (East) alignment. As a board, we would like it to be clear among decision makers that the Sugar House Park Authority is in no way behind the push to bring the streetcar east on 2100 South adjacent to the park. While this letter does not advocate for any specific alignment, it merely states our concerns about the streetcar and the development pressure that would be introduced to the Park if the East alignment is selected. Thank you, -- Mark Morris, PLA, LEEDâ„¢AP Mark Morris Salt Lake City Mayor's Office 12 April 2013 P.O.Box 145474 Salt Lake City, UT 84114–5474 Dear Mayor Becker, On behalf of the Sugar House Park Authority (SHPA) a 501c3 non-profit, we write this letter to weigh in on recent public discussions of the preferred alignment for Phase 2 of the Sugar House Streetcar project. Sugar House Park was created in 1957 under a farsighted organizational structure that enabled an independent, nonprofit entity, the Sugar House Park Authority, to own and operate the park independent of political influence. Our board is composed of volunteer, private citizens who act as stewards of the park, and work to preserve Sugar House Park as a valuable community open space. The central mission of the Sugar House Park Authority is to preserve and maintain the quality of Sugar House Park in perpetuity, and we feel that the recent push for a reconsideration of a streetcar alignment on 2100 South directly adjacent to Sugar House Park will have a negative effect on the ability of future Park Authority boards to preserve Sugar House Park in its present condition. From the outset of the public process to analyze Megan L. Taylor Hi, I'm a SLC resident who lives in the 2100 E & 2100 S neighborhood. I'd like to advocate for the streetcar to come east, up 2100 S. I agree with Councilman Luke in that the consultant's analysis was undermined by not factoring in the Park. Further, I belive my neighborhood is ripe for pedestrian friendly redevelopment. Within the last few years, a large condo building has gone in near Dillworth elementary - condo owners are more likely to use public transport than homeowners I would think. There are currently two large parcels awaiting for someone to buy them up and redevelope them - on 2100 East, between Dilworth and the Blue Plate, where the Works used to be and on 2100 South where Formosa Grill used to be. With the streetcar coming towards us, I think developers would be much more inclined to come up with an eco friendly/multi use building design (retail/office/condo) if there were an assurance it would be served by a convenient streetcar. Finally, my husband made a good point that it's much easier to bike north/south in sugarhouse because there aren't significant hills to climb. It's much harder to bike east/west for those Violet Corkle I read the flyer you mailed about the street car routes. I agree completely agree with your reasoning on the east extension going up 2100 S. Violet Corkle Mary Spaid Hello - We moved to Salt Lake City in 1997. We used to be able to walk a very short distance to mulitiple bus stops (on 2300 East and 2100 South). Now, we need to go up to Foothill Blvd or 2100 East. The neighbor's kids (older than mine) always took the bus to school. My kids used to take TRAX to school (West High School). They only transfered to the bus as a last resort, since it meant a 15 minute walk with their backpacks at the end of what became a very long day. Then the University TRAX line stopped going directly to the Arena, so they don't take TRAX at all. We drive. Just once, could our neighborhood be conveniently served by public transportation? Please choose 2100 South for the Sugarhouse Streetcar. I would love to not have to drive (and park!) along this congested route to shop and dine. thank you Mary Spaid Joan Brown Thank you for the information regarding the Sugar House Streetcar we recently received in the mail! I especially appreciated the map of the purposed routes. Now, having said that, I have to ask...ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?? I am no less than appalled at the unbelievable idea of spending millions of dollars to run a Streetcar that is nothing more than a "novelty"!!!! I am all for improvements and beautifying the area! But let's use some common sense!! How can you even consider running up 2100S? How can you even consider running a Streetcar on 1300E or 1100E for any distance? We already have a very busy intersection at 13th/21st as well as 11th/21st. Please don't make it worse!!! It's also an outrage that the residents on 2100S will be forced to exit their driveways in one direction only! (and btw, let's not forget the atrociously ugly overhead lines that will accompany the Streetcar!!!) I have read and reread your reasons for supporting the Streetcar running East. It's become very clear that this is, once again, simply a "pet project" for someone!! I for one, am sickened by it! We've lived on 1700E since 1998. Our property taxes have nearly doubled and now I understand the George Chapman Let me know if I can help in any other way. We should get a good turnout for Tuesday's meeting. Most small businesses will be represented. My points to the Council members included: 100 people in a supposed robust study should not get to destroy the many small businesses on 11th E. Many are women owned and operated. A super duper robust study of over 1600 bicyclists in Portland found that 67% had crashed on the streetcar rails. (Google Alpine Planning + design and streetcar and bicycles it is on page 31) The construction will impact surrounding single family homes because cars will park there and traffic on the side streets will increase. Some Westminster students want it. But Westminster said that students don’t need a shuttle to Wilmington when they should be able to walk the 4 blocks! So why do we need a streetcar for the students when they should be able to walk the 4 blocks to it. George Chapman Reid Sondrup Mike Mattsson Hello Councilman Luke, I would probably prefer the 2100 South extension for the Sugar House streetcar since it comes closer to my house and is therefore a service I might more likely use that the 1100 East route. If the ultimate goal is to try to connect with Foothill Village, why not consider a route east on 1700 South? It seems to me redundant to have the streetcar go east past 1700 East on 2100 South when there is frequent and regular bus service from Route 21. This bus route provides valuable access to Research Park, the University Hospital, Primary Children's Medical Center, the University of Utah and a TRAX station so it obviously should not be discontinued. Upper 1700 South is underserved by mass transit, since the 223 bus has been cut back to service every two hours. A streetcar on 1700 South might also slow down some of the automobile and motorcycle traffic that seems to think a 30 MPH speed limit means it's okay to go 40 or 50 MPH. I'd also like to make a pitch for a different color scheme to differentiate the streetcar from other UTA forms of transit. The red, white and blue livery currently in use on all other UTA mass transit modes is most unattractive and it's Dear Charlie, There is no doubt that a Wilmington Avenue or Shopko area redevelopment extension will be less congested. I hope your position based on common sense prevails. Mike Richard and Brenda Glissmeyer April 22, 2013 Dear Council Member Charlie Luke, We wish to encourage you to vote for the twenty-first (21st ) South extension of the TRAX line here in Sugar House. We believe this route will give better access to the Sugar House Park located at 21st South and 13th East. We feel this route, additionally, will have a lesser negative impact on the businesses and residences located on 11th East. We were pleased to meet you when you canvassed our neighborhood during the last election and subsequently voted for you on Election Day because of your practical and positive attitudes on the issues that affect our area. We hope that we can count on you at this time to consider our request. We both frequent the businesses located on 11th East and adding a TRAX line may cause us stop doing business in this area. Sincerely, Richard and Brenda Glissmeyer Harriet May I am unable to attend the meeting tonight, but I cannot see how there will be room on 11th East for the trolly, car lanes, and people that have to off street park because they do not have a parking strip or garage. My main concern and that of neighbors is getting in and out of our neighborhood. I don't think planners have talked to the people that live in Sugarhouse only the College and business that will stand to benefit from increased asses to them. A route that has more room for the trolly and cars would be more appealing, east up 21st south would impact fewer homes. That is the opinion of a 30+ year resident of Sugar House. I love it here and I hope the plans of non-residents do not out weigh the ones that live here. Thank you for your time. Rick Lake Charlie, I think that a street car up 2100 South is a real bad idea. The traffic is already terrible in that area and this would only make it worse. Could it go up the south side of the park by the fence that borders I-80 or somewhere else in the park? If not, I would vote to stop it at ShopCo. 1100 East is already to narrow and congested, where would it go? If Shopco allows parking for the streetcar, that would be ideal. Thanks Rick Richard Smith Charlie ----- I appreciate the opportunity to voice my opinion regarding the proposed streetcar route through SugarHouse. I have been a resident of the area for over 30 years.....both on 1100 East and on Redondo Ave, east of SugarHouse Park. I agree with your opinion as stated in your recent mailing where you said you think the better route is going east/west along 2100 South. I really don't know how the streetcar would work on the slim thoroughfare that is 1100 East. I believe the 2100 South route, while being a main traffic area throughout the neighborhood, would better serve the residents and visitors, while the 1100 East corridor would be a major congestion problem, in my opinion. Since I am unable to attend the meeting on April 23, I hope this email can help in the collection of local's opinions on this issue. Richard Smith Jill Woodworth Dear Charlie, Thank you for your mailer regarding the Sugar House Streetcar. I am a business owner on the 1300 block of 11th East. I have serious concerns about losing the parking spaces along this corridor. This area has many businesses that rely on these parking spots. The change in parking requirements for the business zoning has been relaxed and therefore we count on 11th East to accomodate our clients. Many of these patrons would be inconvenienced to have to drive to a streetcar loading zone and ride back from their appointments. I fear the same response from side street neighbors as occurred on 21st East when the Dodo moved in there. I agree with your arguments in favor of 2100 South even as far as Foothill Village. This would not affect businesses in parking issues. I hope this helps with the discussion of this subject. Sincerely, Jill Woodworth Larry Okun Mr. Luke - I have submitted the comment below to the Council via its online form, but I'm also sending it directly to you. My preference is the opposite of the one outlined in your March 29 e-mailed 'District 6 Update' and the front-page article in today's Salt Lake Tribune. I must say that I do not see the strength of your arguments, as I've tried to note in my comment. In particular, the north along 21st South route would offer *no* benefit to residents in the Yalecrest area, whereas the 11th East option, particularly if eventually extended as suggested would be an easy (and healthy) few-blocks walk away for many of us. I'll watch for your counter-arguments. Thank you - Larry Okun Larry Okun RE: extension of Sugar House Streetcar I want to express my present strong preference for the north along 11th East option. As has been noted, this would connect a *walkable* light commercial area along 11th East to Sugar House and Westminster College. As also pointed out, it could eventually be extended to the 9th East9th South commercial area and beyond to the TRAX line at 9th East /4th South, thus linking Wesminster, three important commercial/residential areas (Sugar House, 9th&9th, and the 4th South set) -- all walkable and suited for a streetcar -- plus, via TRAX, the University and central SLC. The arguments for the alternative, east extension along 21st East, with proposed later extension to Foothill Blvd, then to the University and TRAX, seem unpersuasive. The following points can be emphasized: 1. Neither 21st South nor Foothill Blvd. are pedestrian-friendly stretches suitable for a streetcar line. 2. The suggested access to Highland High offers doubtful advantage. High school students would likely use such transportation only twice per day -- morning and early afternoon -- with heavy use during those two periods not easily met by any Elizabeth Giraud, AICP Dear City Council Members: I would like to give you my opinion on the route of the Sugar House streetcar. I don't know why we need the streetcar, but if we have to spend federal money, I vote for eastern route. The businesses along 1100 East sell specialty goods, for the most part. I'm sorry, Councilman LaMalfa, but in response to your comment in the SL Trib this a.m., I don't understand why hair salons, cafes, dance & yoga studios and a post office are any less conducive to driving than any other business. Many of the properties along 1100 E. are zoned Residential/Business (RB), the purpose of which is to create vibrant small scale retail, service, and office uses oriented to the local area within residential neighborhoods along higher volume streets. Development is intended to be oriented to the street and pedestrian, while acknowledging the need for automobile access and parking. You may be charmed by the small scale now, but the streetcar will entice development pressure for larger-scale residential development, and the character of the street and adjoining neighborhoods will be ruined. I know that many City officials would like to see the Shopko area developed Shawn and Karen Halladay Hi Charlie, Shawn and I wanted to pass along some thoughts about the Sugar House Streetcar expansion. We are not opposed to an enhanced and well-run public transportation system in Salt Lake City. We have experienced first hand how welldesigned and functioning transit systems effectively move people, both residents and visitors alike. Regarding the Sugar House Streetcar expansion options, we would like to see how this system fits into a complete (City, County, and State) transit system, especially, how this line would eventually link to other transit systems. Currently, there are areas of the City, including where we live in District 6, that have very limited transit options. When considering the Streetcar expansion, we think that a holoistic/citywide approach should be studied before spending limited transit funds. Also, in our travel experience transit lines move people to and from major destinations or neighborhoods. We do not see how the 1100 East option is either a major destination or neighborhood (maybe there are future plans for this area that we don't know). Right now we don't see why this street would be considered for the expansion when other areas of the City have Ted Wilson Charlie, I think the 1100 E. extension doesn’t make sense except Westminster and that is a dead end except for many miles of residential travel. If I can be helpful in getting it moved to 2100 S. let me know. You’re doing a great job for us. Best, Ted Mary Delle & Raymond Gunn Dear Charlie, We are in agreement with you and other East Bench city council members as to where the Sugarhouse street car extension should go – further east! The options for future extension are so much greater than if the street car extends north on 1100 East. Where would it possibly go from there? A commitment has been made to provide city-wide transit and so far the east side has only seen a decrease in local bus service. We have yet to gain BRT. We wish to see the City at least attempt to strengthen transit on the east side. This opportunity may never come again. Thank you. Mary Delle & Raymond Gunn Brad Barber I am a business owner in Sugarhouse, Barber Tax Service. We are located on 17th S and 11th E and would welcome and support the new streetcar route up 11th East. MC Maloney Anne Beck I think the consultant’s “purple arrow plan―to run the streetcar along 1100 East makes the most sense. We need to deliver customers to the small businesses along this route. We need to support the local economy. We need to support these small businesses. People can get themselves to the Sugarhouse Park and they will . They can catch a bus along 2100 South if the 3 blocks walk is too far. Also, teenagers can walk from 1100 East to Highland High School. They would enjoy the friendships, fresh air, & a bit of exercise along the route to school. They are young and healthy. Thanks for giving me a chance to comment. MC Maloney this is a test Cotter, Glenda I've been following the conversation regarding the alternative routes for the third phase (2C) of the Sugar House streetcar, with the terminus being at either 1100 E and 1700 So or 2100 So and 1700 E. I'm writing to strongly support and respectfully encourage that latter route, for the following several reasons: 1. The area on Highland Drive/1100 East from 2100 South to 1700 South is already a thriving community space for small businesses, high-density and singlefamily housing, and walkable neighborhoods. It is also a narrow, pedestrian and bicycle-friendly street with at least one existing bus route, and it’s the obvious choice for those wishing to avoid the much busier traffic on 1300 East. It’s a place where you can see people coming and going throughout the day and into the evening. It’s hard for me to see how adding a streetcar to the current mix would be anything less than catastrophically disruptive. The liveliness of downtown Sugar House has already been impaired by the years-old empty lot that is only now seeing construction begin, but unfortunately the vibrant, locally owned businesses it is replacing are not likely ever to return. The Jacob MaComb The street car plans should avoid eleventh east as a means for traffic to continue to flow staedily along elevith east as well as twentyfirst south. with all respect the train tracks that we just had to use for the street car contined past the point that we have already built to going directly in to Sugarhouse park, which is what I recomend we consider. Jeff Wall Do not extend the street car down 1100 East to 1700 South. for the following reasons: The road is not wide enough and the proposed route leads to no-where. It should be sent up 2100 South or 1300 East and extend to the UNiversity of Utah. Westminister Students don't commute to the campus, University of Utah Students do from across the valley. This proposed route solves no traffic issues. The neighborhoods cannot handle any additional short cut traffic driving at freeway speeds. People can walk to 2100 south, like we already do. George Sumner A streetcar route along 2100 South will create development pressure on Sugarhouse Park. This will start immediately with confiscation of park property to create "turnouts" so the streetcar will not have to stop in traffic lanes. It will continue until this precious open space is fully developed. At a time when Utah politicians are willing to spend $700 million of taxpayer funds to move the prison in order to make its property available to developers, I can see no other possible future for Sugarhouse Park if the streetcar line is extended along 2100 South. Russell Callister I commend Fehr and Peers for their streetcar study. Included in their study were consultants form Portland, Denver, and Seatle and they all came to the same conclusion, the street car should extend east to Highland Drive and then north to 2100 south, the center of Sugar House. I urge the City Council to approve the LPA recomended by Fehr and Peers, if only to 2100 south. Craig W. Mecham It seems to me that strong consideration should be given to the professional firm of Fehr and Peers who was employed by the city to do an indepth study as to what will best serve Sugar House. They are very familar with what does work and what does not work. They have gone to great effort and expense to provide the City with a feasability study and made their recommendation based on the skills and experience doing this very kind of thing. If we ignore their recommendation it is a little like going to the Doctor who tells us we have "high blood pressure" and perscribes a medication to solve the problem, however if we don't follow his recommendation because we don't like the taste of the pill it could have fatal consequences. Such could be the case if we ignore Fehr and Peer's recommendation Also, it only make sense to provide the trolley service to where the people live. Within one block of 21st So and 11th E their are currently five apartment complexs either built or being build that average over 150 units a piece. Also the area north of 21st is primarily residential. According to the report those who are most likely to ride the trolley are those who live and shop in Sugar House. Doug Murray Please stop the madness. Let's wait to see how things go with phase 1 of the streetcar before blindly going into the next phase. Walkable neighborhoods are great. I love my neighborhood. But there is a difference between a neighborhood and an business district. A few years ago additional businesses were pushed on our neighborhood against residents' wishes. Now there is no street parking for a block around those businesses because empoyees are always parked in front of our houses. The reason there isn't more bus service in the neighborhood is because ridership was low. What rosy projections make you think that people who won't ride a bus will ride the streetcar? I like the idea of mass transit, but we don't have the numbers. People aren't going to walk 5 blocks to ride the streetcar for 4 blocks. Camlle Alexander I am for the street car down 1100 S. It will be a great connection to the Trax on 400 S. It will provide the Westminster Students with a great alternative to get around instead of driving. Therefor reducing our air pollution that we get in the winter. This will be a wonderful for my home price. I believe that having a street will provide my neighborhood with revitalization and a wonderful opportunity to get around. I will definatly be using the street car is put down 1100 South. It was a wonderful idea. Deb Williamson and Mark Williamson For Sterling Furniture Company Having arrived at 7pm for the Meeting and not being able to get inside I thought that for the sake of all of us I would persue this method of having my voice heard. As I worte and sent to you last Saturday Sterling Furniture Company is one of the oldest businesses in Sugar House. I represent not only myself but all the principles of our corportation (Our Family has been in the Furniture business for 6 generations, so we must be doing something right.) We also have 30 Residential Resident Familiies that occupy our Sugar House Apartments, and 11 retail spaces (All about Coins and Fankhauser jewerly to name a few.) We are along with the Sugar House Merchants Association our IN FAVOR of the Streetcar proceeding on Highland drive to 2100 South thus keeping the HEART of Sugar House where it belongs by the momument plaza. We favor at this time to have the streetcar then to proceed East on 2100 South because of the UTA bus ridership. We also believe that the 2100 south option is better for the for the many small businesses and Ma and Pop Stores that inhabit 1100 East that give Sugar House it's unique flavor. We are also concerned how the city plans to raise 30 million dollars for Sharen Hauri Jill, Thank you for your commitment to our neighborhood. I am commenting on the SH Streetcar as a resident and participant in ELPCO, but also have the insight of having participated in the Alternative Alisgnment study in my role working on the streetcar for South Salt Lake. I agree with the proposed LPA for the reasons outlined in that study. The city should invest in transit that has the greatest return - in ridership, reinvestment and economic activity. The extension north, which can ultimately connect to other central city neighborhoods meets these criteria. The demographics, income, diversity of housing and jobs density is there and deserving of a more complete transit network, and streetcar fits the bill. It is not however, the only possible option. BRT on 700 East or another transit option on 1100 East may also make sense. It is frustrating that this debate has been driven by emotion and not evidence in the past few weeks. I believe SLC has not fully addressed the range of considerations that will help clarify the choice to its residents. We need to have a better picture of future transportation options, future development and future neighborhood master plans for the entire William Deutschman In listening to the discussion tonight at the city council meeting, I heard a number of comments about the streetcar damaging the pedestrian and bike experience along 1100 East. I cannot speak to the pedestrian experience, but both my wife and I are daily bike commuters in the area. I commute to Westminster college and often ride to meet my wife who bike commutes to the sugarhouse clinic on Wilmington avenue. I do have some concerns about the hazard that the streetcar tracks pose to bicyclists. That is pretty well documented. But, anyone who tells you that putting a streetcar in will ruin some idyllic bike transit option is someone who has not ridden that area. 1100 east is a route of necessity or last resort for bicyclists. Between the auto traffic, narrow shoulders (at the south end) and seemingly random driveways and parking areas, that route is already quite dangerous for bicyclists. Though I have no data to support it, my strong hunch is that the re-planning of the street that comes as part of the project will make it safer than it is now. I have ridden the streetcars in NW Portland, and have observed the bicycle traffic there (as seen through the eyes of someone who rides Jennifer Mallory I am concerned about the traffic impact of the already constructed streetcar route has on 700 E and 900 E - main roads for people in my neighborhodd. Yet we are already trying to decide where the streetcar should go next - along other main corridors in our small neighborhood without seeing what impact on traffic the streetcar would have. Please hold off on deciding any further expansions until we observe the traffic impact on the already existing streetcar route. Takako Mc Mullen In incoming mail today you received a letter from constituent Ms. Takako Mc Mullen. She that she has been a resident for 74 years and she would like for your support for the east side expansion for the streetcar. Philip D. Shea In incoming mail today Mr. Philip D. Shea sent a comment. It stated,―I would like the Sugar house Streetcar to take me to the Salt Lake International Airport.― Cathy Walsh I feel very stringly as a tax payer and as a property owner in the Westminster vicinity (rental property that my dtr. will soon reside in) that the 1100 e or any other alternative simply doesnt make financial sense as the optimal ise of transportation. 2100s continuing on seems to make the most sense for the reasons that were listed by Luke and Simonsen in their opeds in the Tribune. Michael Browining I think the 11th east route is a mad idea. 11th east is tight and conjested as it is. If the streetcar goes to 17th or even 13th South, its a train to nowhere. It would be better to go to 13th east or up 21st South. take the line to Foothill Blvd. or down 13th East to Westminster College. I sone see the need to take the line through the Sugarhouse bussiness district at all. There is a stop in sugarhouse. Its two short blocks from everything. Hasnt Downtown Sugar house taken enough hit. Robert mayer It's a bit dofferent to comment on vague plans for a expansion of public transit in this part of the city, but I do not see the rationale for expansion northward on 1100 east close to 2100 south, 1100 east is already quite conjested. I avoid the area now for this reason, especially in the late afternoon. Adding a streetcar would make matters worse as far as serving Westminster students, why not save tens of millions of dollars by providing a shuttle( the way Georgetown University does in Washington, DC)? Finally, if the streetcar is going to move at the speed of traffic, better bus service would be much less expensive and far more flexible for the long term. Lisa Monson trolly good idea- connecting out neighborhoods would be great but, why do the infrastructure? Why not have natural gas run the trolleys that could drive where needed? 21st to 9th ect... Easier to manage longer distances sooner and easier, Seasonal use, changing schedules. 11th east is residential and is also conjested. If residences have a trolly trach in front of their homes, they will move. Out neighborhood will turn to rentals. Jessica Crouch 11th East is a very narrow stret with a very high traffic load. There will be extreme difficulty for people to continue to drive on this street if there is a trolly car (essentially trax line). If the eventual goal is to reduce traffic and provide a service to the community for future use, then the long term future should be considered as well. A single line will not suffice after a few years and the reality of turning this into a dual line, when there is already a lacj of funding, epecially when there is no space will make the street unusable for regular traffic and then ultimately the businesses and local economy will suffer there are much better (ie wider) options than 11th east that could provide good access for a similar goal. Tim Imaeu -1100 east already very busy busy and congested. -Current public transportation adeguate bus lines on 1100/1300 -hard to find parking at my house already, let alone when street side parking gets removed on 1100 e. - n line alond 1300 e would serve a higher population than 1100 e -n line terminating at 1700 s defeats the purpose of connecting sugarhouse with the trax line( along 400s). M. Rhiannon Trimm Tom Helme Clayton Helme Cons of the Streetcar: -1100 East os heavily congested already-at times traffic barley moves -parking on the street is overcrowdedand limited- I presume we will lsoe our on street parking and not all homes have a driveway. Where will people park? What about visitors to neighborhoods? Where will guests park? -we already have bus routes on 1100 east when not use what is already in place? -1100 east would serve fewer businesses than abusier street would -has the potential to increase the noise in our residential neighborhood - This seems lika huge waste of tax payers dollars. How many people on 1100 east actually want a trolley on 1100e? -It seems running the trilly to 1700 s is for westminster college these studnets will only hand to and from school for 4 yrs or less. I bought a house on 1100 e and plan to live here for 50+yrs, which I wount do it you put a trolly in front of my house. - A trolly may sound great to the folks that dont have to live with it interfering with thier home life. -The turn out tonight should speak volumes about how residents feel about this proposal Please do not destroy our neighborhood and wast tax payer dollars! We should be investing in education! Reliable, convenient public transportation would be a big help in improving the air quality problems we have in this valley. The trolley line extending East on 2100 would be helpful in reaching these goals. I would like the trolley line to go east on 2100 south up to the park and highland drive. It was not part of the study which I feel was a mistake. The sugar house park is a big draw for many people and is the main reason I think that streetcar should go up 2100 south. Susan Koelliker I learned about the possibility of a streetcar in my beighborhood this past week going up 2100 south, I believe, after being at this meeting, everyone here is pushing the 21st south because they are against 11th east. Unfortunatley, my neighbors have only learned about it this week or still dont know. I have four children that cross 21st south to school everyday. A streetcar would be extremely dangerous and under used in my neighborhood. I carpool with neighbors everyday- we are concerned about our environment and that is why we carpool. We purchased out home to live on the city but also to be accessible. I drive in sugarhouse everyday- the buses arent full and the traffic is not an issue, pleasedont take what we love about our neighborhood! Sue Ann Jobes I am against the streetcar going wast on 2100 south. - Our children walk to school and cross 2100 south it is more dangerous with crossing with a streetcar. - If we want a waling community-- lets walk -It is only 2 blocks from sugarhouse up to the park we can walk - There is no destination East on 2100 south -2100 south is a neighborhood we dont want a streetcar changing it. -The buses are not full. We wont use a streetcar either. -2100 South is a neighbor street the city council talks about having a walking city let us have it. Whitney Ward The streetcar should continue down 1100 east to 900 south then run down to 900 east to trax. This will serve more residents move businesses and connect to the U and downtown more effectively. Allison Fleming the 1100 east streetcar is a poor use of public funds. 2100 s. provides the opportunity to link to the U. much better Bill Cordray There are multiple liong range impacts of these two choices that requier a more thorough discussion with respect to citycounty transportation issues. We need to solve these problems first with the help of an outside R/UDAY type group which has no conflict of local interests. We should study excellent transportion solutions such as the chritables, Brazil articulated bus routes which penicle the city and connect to spokes of trains that feed the city center, however, if I had to choose now 21st so makes more sense. I have no additional rationale that would include any more points that you ahve not already heard. I do like ideas that avoid the 21st/highland & 21st s 13 e intersections, such as routes via wilmington or shopko, one radical option cross 13th east wilmington and create a streetcar line that accompanies the propsed parleys trail encirlce the park counter clockwise back to wilmington w/no impact on streets. Kathy Hills I am opposed because a lot of people in the sugarhouse cant afford to ride transit. I personally find that I can get to work faster in my car (10min) than using transit which takes mean hour to get to work. I think you should continue the tracks up through shopping center by the theatres + shopko area to sugar house park. then have the trax circle the park back. The park could be used as a park and ride. Mary Slocum I am opposed to unning a streetcar north on 1100 wast.( I stronly oppose the long term plan for further extension to 900s) This street, in my opinion, should be maintained as a very bicycle + pedestrian friendly street, with respect given to the residential neighborhood. A streetcar will bring additional noisem lighting,congestion, remocal of trees ect.. Most of my neighbors commute east (to university research park, hospitals schoold not downtown). This route does not enhance connectivity to resources that are not already in easy walking or cycling distance. Please use an existing traffic throughfare such as 2100 south; or 1300 east if you insist on linking northward. 1300 east has better connectivity potential with westminster, u of u, eash high ect... 2100 south has better potential to loop + link with both westminster + u of u. I dont see this 1100 east route as cycling friendly. I also view the 1100east route as limited access to my local post office. Greg Schegel I request ETC group and ETC sugar house llc a small business and property owner on 1100 east we strongly support phases 2a +2b (to 1100 east and 2100 south) and we also suppor6t bringing the streetcar up to 1100 east and 1700 south. Mark and Debbie Unrah Alice Parkinson We live in the area. Have so far over 20 years we are strongly opposed to the streetcar expansion down 1100 E. It is too small of a street to provide this type of multiple not needed, decied, or safe. We are all for re ducing pollution throughit the city. So we are not against public transit please create a master plan. Please make were decisions on where uit is placed 1100 e just doesnt make sense. Please keep us informed and included on a tranparent fashion. If any street parking is taken out along 11th e. It will be harmful to small businesses on 11th e that depend on that parking. What will happen to bike lanes? Why is the bus not sufficient? Jason Duke Russell, I was sent to the council meeting as a representative of the United States Postal Service. I am not sure if the city council has previously contacted our organization about the possible impacts of the streetcar project on postal operations, however local Salt Lake City postal management was unaware of this project until this last week. I do not think it is appropriate for our organization to voice an opinion as to which would be the best route for the Sugarhouse streetcar to follow, but we do need to make you aware of the needs of our organization and to make you aware of how any development or construction on 1100 East could potentially impact our operations. The Sugarhouse Post Office has 46 motorized delivery routes servicing a large area; from 500 East to 2000 East, and from 900 South to 3900 South. We also have at least 5 to 6 large trucks that service our facility between 3:30 am to 7:00 pm, bringing our incoming mail and taking our outgoing mail dispatch to the processing plant on Redwood Rd. The only access that these vehicles have in or out of our Station is 1100 East. The only customer access to our Post Office is also off of 1100 East. If there were to be any construction on 1100 East Sarah Woosley Dear Mr. Lamalfa. I am a concerned citizen from Sugarhouse. I am concerned that you are making decisions about the streetcar in Sugarhouse based on business people's interests and not citizens. I read a quote from you in the SL Trib today. It might have ben an incomplete quote, I would like to give you a chance to explain yourself further--but here is what it said- "business on 1100E are the kind of service businesses that do not require a car:salons, cafes, dance and yoga studios, a post office." Your decision for the streetcar in this quote is NOT taking the neighborhood citizens into account. It seems business are your focus. I live 1 block from the proposed car. My street , the impact on my home, neighbors, was not studied by the transportation department like the impact on business. No one has studied how this street car will affect the cut through car traffic onto Hollywood Av that risks children and pedestrian safety. We already deal with lots of stress from the busy rush hour streets. I fear the Stcar will impact us event more. When there are slow cars and backups-they cut right through and speed wast on Hollywood to 900E. It happens Mon-Friday. I live 24- 7 at my home. Business are there 9- Danny Clyne Hi Charlie, As you might guess, my wife and I most adamantly concur with our long-time friend Ms. Rech. From the get-go, we've always understood that any mass transit going up 21st South to the East, was not to be part of the Master Plan. We are already aghast by the amount of development happening in the central Sugarhouse area. It is my personal opinion that Soren Simonsen is single-handedly destroying the area. The once quaint and walkable Sugarhouse is now becoming overused and soon will be overcrowded as well. The Sugarhole fiasco was certainly foretelling of the pending doom of the area. It is sad when developers have more power with their dollars then do the residents of the city with their tax dollars and moreover, their voices. We too are regrettably unable to attend this evening's meeting. But, for now, I will close by saying this: Please, discontinue building and stop the madness. Just please stop it. Your partner in the war against graffiti, Danny Lee Rech Dear Councilman Luke, As a resident of Sugarhouse (District 6) for over 18 years, I am emailing to request that you reject the Sugarhouse Streetcar / Trax line proposal that puts it coming up 21st South. I currently live on 15th East and Hollywood Ave (1965 South) and I can say without a doubt that developing the Trax line just two blocks from my front door would not only devalue my property (which I have spent tens of thousands of $$ remodeling), which has already been slammed by the recession/housing crisis but would also set a negative precedent of more commercial development along the 21st South corridor that is still primarily residential east of 13th East all the way up to Parley’s Way. I know that there some urban planners such as Soren Simonsen that are proponents of developing the Trax up 21st South. However, having talked to many in my neighborhood including some businesses owners, I can tell you a majority of people that I have spoken to are not okay with this Trax plan. I hope you and your City Council colleagues will consider all of the pros and cons of running a Trax line up 21st South (including the Sugarhouse Master Plan) carefully as I Paul C. Burke Stan, Last summer I moved into your district and am now one of your constituents. I am writing to express my support for extending the Sugarhouse Trolley eastward along 2100 South rather than north on 1100 East. The proposed 1100 East option is a dead-end. On the other hand, the route up 2100 South will immediately provide access to Sugarhouse Park and Highland High Schools, and eventually could lead to expansion up 2100 South to the Walmart and perhaps then north across Foothill Boulevard. Our city will be well-served by a transportation plan with options for the future. Please support the eastbound option up 2100 South. Best regards, Paul C. Burke Linette Sheffield Members of the Salt Lake City Council: Thank you for the opportunity to give input on the Sugar House Streetcar project. I have concerns about the street car project. I feel that this would be a controversial installation, and that it would be good if the salt lake city citizens could vote on the issue. I have several questions that could be answered or put in a general mailer that would benefit the public. 1. How will this affect east and westbound traffic on 21st south? I feel that the area from 9th east up to 13th east is already crowded and the streets are busy enough. I travel these roads at least 3-5 days per week. Traffic is backed up with the 2 lanes going both directions. I am NOT in favor of lessening the number of car traffic lanes in either direction. I would not ride the streetcar, and many other area residents would not, so please allow us to use the roads currently as they are. 2. I am even more concerned with the traffic on 11th east, where I frequent my driving even more! It is literally packed most days just north of 21st south. With the bank exit, the Smith's gas station, and the post office, not to mention small businesses/restaurants. I can't even imagine a streetcar taking the Gail Murdock This message is from Gail Murdock who is opposed to the 1100 East streetcar route. She would appreciate a call back at , but understands you aren't likely to call today. Gail teaches at Highland High School and has discussed the streetcar with her students. She feels if the 1100 East route is selected, it will be a great disservice to many people and businesses. She prefers the 2100 East route. She plans to attend tonight's meeting and comment Rod Minister This voicemail is from Rod Minister who is opposed to the streetcar on 1100 East. He prefers seeing it go up Wilmington to 1300 East and then to 2100 South. . Clifford and Vena Childs We appreciated receiving the newsletter you sent us. We have property in District Seven. We want to express our opinion about the proposals for streetcar extension. We strongly agree with the opinion that it should go east to 1300 East and Sugar House Park with a further extension to Highland High School. The proposal to go north on 1100 East to 1700 South should be abandoned. The intersection of 2100 S and Highland Drive would NOT be improved with additional congestion. Already we find ourselves avoiding Sugar House and especially that route because of congestion. Service to the north can be handled with better planning and different choices. Thank you for listening to our opinion. Clifford and Vena Childs Did not give This resident called to express her opposition to the streetcar going up 11th east as it would ruin the ambiance of the neighborhood. The 21st South option, she said would be a better option to connect with future transportation needs. She said if you get a chance to call her, she assumes you will be too busy with the meeting though so if you can't she is fine, she can be reached . She didn't leave her name. Alex Hildebrand I am a college stufent, I currently live on 2100s and sure it isnt the best street to live on but it is the greatest neighborhood.I have lived on 2100s for 10 soon to be 11 years of my life. I love ot here and I dont want to see my neighborhood ruined and turned into an urban community. There is no need for a streetcar on my street. The bus sustem works fine and there are no problems so I dont understand why we need to upgrade to something that is so lightly ised East of 1300 e. I walked arounf with a petition and I walked to more than 100 homes more than 45 were against and the rest were not home or didnt know about this. I dont want the noise, extra traffic, construction, commercial creep and so one. I hope this project stops where it is. Scott Kisling Councilman Luke and Simonsen have both articulated my concerns that this decision should wait until a citywide trasportation plan has been made. Residents east of 2100 east which I represent prefer an alignment along 2100 south eventually reaching the 21/21 business district, the 2300 e/2100s business area and beyond, to onvigerate those areas that are ripe for redevelopment. other reasons are: 1- Highest bis ride ship in city is 2100s. 2-many employees working in my area live in S salt Lake + west 3-Many residents in my area work along 2100s west of i-80 4- Eventualy light rail along Foothill to the South + to the east would benefit from a feeder System like this 5- Im tired of walking me mile to the 21 bus! Michael Baker As a resident of North Sugarhouse/Liberty Wells and a professional Transportation Planner I feel strongly that the 1100 East alternative is the stronger option for the the following reasons. User Density: The 1100 East alternative is the stronger option because there is a greater density of residential, business, and student users. Density is the key to the success of any mass transit project. The vast outcry of residents against 1100 East is largely rooted in a fundamental misunderstanding about how streetcars function. In transportation planning, parks are *never* a strong generator for transit trips apart from special events (4th of July etc.) Furthermore, improving access to Westminister Campus could have the added benefit of reducing traffic on the already congested 1300 E. and 1100 E. Ultimately this is a choice between providing access to a larger (Westminister) and smaller (Sugarhouse Park) trip generators. Traffic impacts: Through proper design, I can see the streetcar having a minimal impact on traffic along 1100 East. Bear in mind that residents will be particularly skeptical of anything that could possibly increase traffic as they have been Kelly White Although I dont live in sugar house I spend a lot of time shopping and visiting resturants in sugar house I am glad taht the city is investing in a streetcar. What I would like to see is taht the city will invest in transportation on the East Bench. The East bench is greatly underserved with very limited to nonexistent bus service and no trax service. It would be nice if the streetcar caoul east. I understand that the consult recommended the streetcar head north bit I am concerned that route would create more congestin main already busy street. If eventually the congestion the streetcar was expanded north beyond 1700 south it would make more sense. It would be ideal if the car couls go east to sugarhouse and go up 21st south but if there could also be a route north on 1100 east but farther than 1700 south which seems like a dead end route. Continue up to 900 South. gary Madrid Putting the trolley down 11th east is a high mistake: 1- Traffic would be terrible we couldnt get home 2- It would ruin the atmosphere of the whole area 3-Go up 21st as suggested by the council member DONT GO DOWN 11TH EAST!! No to trax down 1100 east to conjested allready & getting bottled in. Fire, ambulance a lot harder to get to residents who pay taxes. NO NO NO Butch Adams I do not feel the 11th east option for the streetcar is a viable option. The street is to narrow to allow safe bike travel, its already to congested please look for better option. Reid Judd Jordan Larsen I would strongly prefer the streetcar to run east west along 2100 s to sugar hosue park and beyond. We need more transit service on the east bench. Westminster college is to close to the sugar house business district to warrant depicated streetcar service. I think it should go up willin to that the edge of the park up to 21st or 23rd wast north to vetrens hospital & u of u. 11th wast is to congested now. the eastside if you are interested in serving the east side it needs to go east. I do not want anymore congestion on 11th east NO. It is already a pain on 11th wast we have buses! I do not want the streetcar to go down 11th east. Susanne Parry I am very against the streetcar in front of my house. I am angry that no onw was informed about it going up 2100 s. Charlie Luke has totally has not infomred me and the artical he wrote in the newspaper was false. I dont want more wires on my street wwe have enough. I dont want my taxes to go up to pay for it! I ahve lived on this street for 62 years. I should have a say. Dustin Campbell I like the idea of a streetcar, but the car needs to be routed in a way that makes sense for future expansion plans. And I would like to know how much it will cost me. dont route it north on 1100 east from 2100 south. this is what I would propose as an effective route:1-it makes a loop 2- it serves a lot of businesses 3- you can expand later to other destinations. Dont build it north on 1100 east past 2100 south. theres nothing to go to. It wont get used. Greg Bergmann Merrill Sybdergaurd Joann Syndergaurd Susan Kennard for Donna Klenk David Petersen Barry Angstman Kelly Saunders John Neville EP McNeil I am representing my 88yr old mother who lives just west of Westminster college on Blaine ave. I am concerned about the accessability to her street. 11th east is the only access to her home since 12th east was closed off several years ago. If we need the street car please send it up 21st so not down 11th east. This is a choice between to good alternatives. However, the main trax line west of west temple continues to receive more and more trax traffic. i beleive that if the 1100 east line is selected first, it will eventually drop down to 900 east had head north to 400 south effectively by passing the crowd line near west temple therby providing a second route to downtown. I think both routes should be done, but the 1100 east route first. I am in favor of the alternative route to highland high and then up to 21 & 21 we need viable alternative for n/s transportation on the East bench. No to the extension of the sugar house trax along 1100 east north. Support trax along 2100 s. to Foothill Dr. 1300 East is on Trax between 1100 east and 1300 e along 2100 so. Extension on 1100 e concluded of trax congested and a term so close to residents. Dont send there is business to justify lone. Sugarhouse is not a distinations are 1100 east will go no where. I would prefer to see the streetcar run up by sugar house park + up 2100 south. Go east 21st e on 23rd e then North to Foothill Village and the U. Daphne Perry I thinks a big safety issue, concern, if you put me the streetcar down 11th east. It is a very narrow corridor. I dont this it can fit & allow firetrucks & ambulances to manoever thru traffic in an emergency. i was travelling south on 11th east last week & a fire turck was needing to turn in and cars had to backup more over ect for it to get thru. please do not run the car along 11th east. Julie Adams Chatterley I dont understand how 11th is the recommended and not 21st. getting done congested off of 21st should be a priority. This would make 11th much less walkable. Dan Flandro The trax route up 21st south would jam up an already difficult street. Ive lived here 60 years the trax should go north along 13th wast this would allow trax access to the U connection and allow apartment complexes to have access to westminster the u and back to 4th south. Michael Bruschke No trolly at all 21st is already incredibly congested is a trolley would certainly make is worse. Where would cyclists go? What happens to the street parking that businesses depend on? A trolley down 11th os equally as disasterous no trolley. Constance Craigston 1100 East is too busy congested narrow for the mayors preferred plan. Does he live here? Work here? The east side deserves some transit options all area schoolds would benefit from 2100 so. plan. Solissa Welden I currently have a boutique on 1100east my business would not survive the construction nor do I think that going up 1100 east would serve any purpose. It would destroy what myself and other small busniess owners have worked so hard to keep afloat my biz depends on loyal cust, but also random people driving up 1100 east. It should go east on 2100 s towards the park I am passonate about this stupid idea. Tagge Solaimanian Dear council members, we have been small business owner on 1100 east for the last 22 years, I wish the streetcar go to east on 2100 south 1100 east is very congested and narrow street. It makes sense to me that 2100 so route will connect to u of u and hospital in the future. Sarah Solaiman Prefer alt B3--heading e on 2100 connecting foot traffic to the park and high school 11th e for 21 to 1700 does not get foo traffic and run rist of losing biz. As a concerned resident and citizen of the sugarhouse area I am opposed to the streetcar coming down 1100 east. Street car should go east otp foothill fo north on foothill connect to u of u trax. UTA Rte 220 and 213 already drive to westminster college. I do not want the trax on 11th east because it is a narrow congested street I want up to come up 21st south,. Michael Glover The trolley on 1100 east is a bad idea because tearing out the beautification pro for something ugly for our neigborhood. Heather Bradbury Dana Curtis Ken Lheadon Chris Collier I dont think we need to expand the sugar house steetcar. The streetcar was sold to us as a 2.5 mile slow streetcar to bring shoppers to sugar house. Not to disrupt the neighborhood. By expanding service will increase the rail traffic likely include another track. Likely impacting the neighborhood feel. If you must expand service there is plenty of north south options already I feel there is not enough east west service. Avoid impacting 21st s 11th east intersection. It is already to busy. I support any streetcar plan as long as you can still turn left. Christine Zabawa 1-What studies have been done to show that the properties directly impacted will increase in property value and how can I access them. 2- As I reside directly on 23 e I am concerned that such a streetcar makes a meaningful improvement. I live only 7 minutes away from the U campus and downtown but am unable to utilize any public transportation at present. Nor can I even ride my bike to the center of campus all together I am opposed unless this changes while keeping the nice neighborhood I live in. LeeAnn Bywaters My biggest concern is that this streetcar issue is down to the final approval and I just got something in the mail about it 2 weeks ago and it was the first I heard of it. David Morrow Anne Cannon I favor the streetcar line going east as the next phase of the sugar house transit line. I feel we need to get going with transit on the east side of our city. i hope the line will eventually extend east to foothill blvd. and on north to the u of u and the trax line there. The eleventh east line in the future will also be valuable as a north south connection along with a much needed city wide transit plan to meet our multi age, business growth and future needs. G. Kies I prefer the east route toward highland high for the following reasons: 1- Enough congestion at 21s / 1100e live the local businesses + residents a break. 2- East route serves a more viable business district. 3- ties in to city with a listing bus route. 4- allows for future espansion to the east and north. 5Cheaper alternative. Laura Fuhriman Carol Carter After listening to the comments at tonights meeting I am concerned that there does not seem to be a master plan in place. I saw the proposed routes and not one of them goes into sugar house park. Which was one of the main points talked about in the literature there was no mention of how this would affect homeowners taxes. There does not seem to be any option to not having the streetcar in sugar house but, jsut end it where it is now being built. We would like to be able to vote on these proposals. Increase tax- yes, more stops on street yes. Please listen to the voice of the people. No street car on highland dr. Nicole Herbert What a joke! Sorry. 21st-17th on 11e ripping up our darling city for a few block causeing a huge increase to traffic congestion that is already an issue on 11th e and the disruption to all our businesses on 11th is just ridiculour we dont want it. Take the bus or walk . Sugar house is a walking and biking neighborhood please dont clog us up and pollute our air more by piling up ares putting behind a trolley with 3 people in it. Mark Eliason I really have appreciated the outreach to the community regarding the very important issue of the sugar house trolley. If the city council had not proceeded with this specific proposal I do believe that the full weight of the opinions of the people would not have been heard. I am a long time resident of Sugar house and am against the development of the streetcar along 11th wast. I have 5 children several of whom attend emerson elementary. I am concerned about how narrow 11 east is what would happen to the bike lanes whether there will be more accidents due to the quiet nature of the streetcar and the inconvience due to congestion on the street. My thanks for your time in considering my opinion. Robert Peacock 1-Stop where it is and monitor usgae. 2- how iwll expansion be funded 3-Spend my tax money for air traffic controllers benefiting thousands not street cars for a few. 4-11th east already too congested. 5-going down 21st s to 1700 or 2100e is almost all residential. 6-21st is needed for people to get to work especially to the U. 7-Many major e/w streets have already been reduced by center turn lanes and bike lanes not being used and useless in the winter. 8If you want to live where there are no cars move to the contry this is a city. 9-high school kids drive cars. 10- buses are cheaper and more flexible. Lisa Eisenberg I feel that there needs to be more study and consideration of a thrid alternative. Neither 2100 south nor 1100 east seems to be a pleasant alternative. those of use who live close to sugar house park mived there because of the natural beauty of the area. posts and wires for a streetcar would blight the value of a priceless view. Ridership would not be sufficient to sacrifice that which most residents prize the most. 1100 east is far to narrow and congested why not consider 700 east and use buses as connectors similar to the narta system in atlanta or max in portland. Wade Olsen In support of streetcar we need more options for public transportation. the streetcar solves so many problems that many people do not understand. this is a positive thing for Sugar House we need to look to the future. This is vital to our future. Allan Flandro 1- If run to 11th east you lose parking 2-who wons Sugar house? The apts. Dwellers or home owners? Who pays the taxes? 3- the route should go down 9th east and connect to 9th and go over to 11th. Cristy Airhart Maybe in 20 yers we could use a trax on Foothill Not now---obviously Simon you want the 26 million for those that ride trax you cold but them all a new corolla. Ben Holcomb I see the Sugarhouse streetcar as the first step towards 'building the backbone' (past UTA reference to rail) of a SLC streetcar system linking small-business neighborhoods. Considering topography, business locations, neighborhood access and least disturbance to vehicle thruways (in this case 2100 South), the best option is that recommended by the consultants and backed by Mayor Becker (1100 East option). Ideally, the line would continue north on 1100 East to 900 South and turn west towards the TRAX stop on 200 West 900 South where it would link to the other proposed line from the Granary District. The 1100 East option would provide the first vertebrate connecting the Sugarhouse neighborhood to the many small businesses budding on 900 south, 9th/9th neighborhood, Liberty Park and beyond. My comments are based on no vested interests (business or personal), but only to see successful decisions for a well constructed community. Thanks Fauntelle Young and Tyson Daniel Scott K. Sorenson Laurie Reed As a property owner of a business and a private residence in Sugarhouse I favor the 11th East alignment for the Sugar House Streetcar. The current campaign to stop the 11th east alignment is based on fear, misinformation and intimidation. As a property owner I find the streetcar a solution to pollution, congestion and would make Sugar House a more welcoming place. I believe it will be good for business. I urge you to keep the 11th East alignment. Please I am a resident of Sugar House and live near 2100 East and 2100 South I am concerned that making assumptions about best available options for future expansion prior to having any experience with the original line into Fairmont/Sugarmont is a deeply flawed and reckless approach to this issue when you have zero idea if your original (and therefore underlying assumptions) about future growth AND COST bear any relation to reality I lived in Cleveland where the local rail lines grew over time to require a subsidy (therefore higher taxes) in excess of $100 million annually I think a prudent man and a prudent steward of public resources would stop and think and develop a master plan before proceeding in any future expansion Please cancel the trolley and give back the money, thank you Laurie Reed Tara Baird I live on 11th east between 9th south and 13th south in a very quiet residential area. I would NOT want the street dug up for rail lines north of 13th south. we already have buses and my proerty value will gretly decrease. It does not make sense to go through quiet neighborhoods to connect sugarhouse & 9th & 9th. The surrounding neighborhoods or are what makes these places Dont ruin them! to develop To the special. overwhelming opposition Grace Vlam a streetcar line on 11th East, I will add my strong opposition to the 2100 south development as well, for the following reasons: Sugar House is a historical settlement. Built by Mormon pioneers with a decided rural character. My family, from Switzerland and the Netherlands. Settled here in 1928 and 1949 respectively and have lived here, to the present day. I have known Sugar House when the edge of the village was 10th East. We lived on 910 East Ramona Ave. We have enjoyed the fine bungalow residential character, with room for gardens, trees,and parks (especially Fairmont Park and Sugar House Park after the prison was removed). The regular bus service has provided us with ample access to the downtown and University areas where our family has worked (in times when cars were not yet part of family possessions and in times when, as senior citizens driving a car is no longer advisable). The increase in motorized traffic has become a concern. It forces change that threatens the historic character of Sugar House, because streets have to be widened, buildings torn down, gardens diminished to provide safe passage. Mark McDonald I am strongly opposed to the sugarhouse line as a whole. However, if this is going to be forced upon us, I believe the best routes would be the 1100 East option presented in the report compiled by the entity correctly and adequately hired to do so. I do NOT support any version of the street car extension running up 2100 South. Gayle Anderson no to having streetcar go down 11th east. More study needed before line is put in. go east on 21st south would be my choice-more room. Please do no have streetcar go down 11th east nor Hyland drive (also no to 1300 east) streets are too narrow and congested all ready. Please widen 1300 and Hyland dr as it was before lines were made one land. No to pedestrians plaza-keep it the same. More people go through sugar house and only stop sometimes for shopping and honk. sugar "hole" too many more people would be living and working there-will be very congested-street car won’t help. Tracie Kirkham Dear City Council, thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion. i would like to see master plan on the sugar house area. I currently do not agree with the street car alignment of 100 east. There is simply no room. Interms of a 2100 south alignment...it should be evaluated in terms of cost, benefits, who is the targeted rider, etc... and what would be the cost to ride on the street car. Willaim Ward As a lifelong SL resident, I prefer that the next phase of the streetcar/trolly continue north on 100 east. The zoning, density and land uses are perfectly situated to accommodate a streetcar. If there is opportunity now to keep the momentum forward with the LPA then let’s do it. Yes SLC needs a transit master plan, but i would bet that they’ll discover that 100 east makes god sense to have a streetcar. Alicia Richardson Dear City Council Leaders, I would like you to know that I am a resident in the Country Club area and would NOT like to see the street car spur go up 2100 So. We have enough congestion in the area I only think a street car would add more congestion. More congestion brings more traffic into our neighborhood. More people into our neighborhood brings more robberies, menace and problems. We are contending with the effects of Walmart and the traffic that business creates and don’t need more traffic. We have a nice freeway on and off at the top of Parleys Way and a freeway off/on ramp at 1300 East to present easy access to the area. Please don’t BOTTLE UP OUR ROADS!!! Kaylene Hughes Emily Potts Randy Palmer Barbara Boller Lauri Duncombe I feel having a street car on 100 east is a bad idea. The street is to narrow and congested to accommodate this. My 90 year old father lives right on 100 east, it has been in the family 90 years. Most of the homes on 100 east are very small driveways and no parking. They are parking on the street. It is only going to make it worse and more chaotic. Why would we want to get rid of all the cars. I won’t quit driving. Public transit makes me sick, motion sickness and I will never use it. Having such a narrow street would only cause unsafe conditions. Westminster College campus is so small, I really don’t think it makes sense to accommodate them they can walk. Pro 2100 south Leave the Trax at McClelland St. so that the streets do not become more congested with a trolly car. I am against the street car proposal for 100 east. I am a resident for the last 15+ year. As businesses on 21st south develop, our lovely neighborhood has been victim of increased traffic, speedy and degradation. We are 1 block west of 11th east one block north of 4 south-all residential. The street car proposed does not take into account the way cards looking for "shortcuts" around a street car will stops. That migration of traffic is already occurring due to poor overdeveloped and lack of planning in out neighborhood. We need protection and correction of development in sugar house-bring the route further east-stop suffocating the residential neighborhood air pollution is incresed energy generation is not free. Destination to no where along 2100 south Christina Kulakowskli I am not in support of the 100 east street car for the following reasons. 1-100 east is to narrow and already too congested to support parallel tracks for a street car. 2-A street car on 100 east would ruin the small community feel of sugar house and will urbanize a neighborhood that is being revitalized. 3-i am concerned that if the 100 east street car was built traffic would increase on 1000 east, the street I live on. 1000 east is a family street as sugar house is a family area neighborhood. The street car will increase traffic in neighborhoods ultimately creating dangerous roads for children Oletta Gummings Westminster students are young, they can walk up 5 blocks. I am older 68 and would like to age in place in my sugar house home. The street car would help me stay mobile on 21st south, not 1100 east. Im 100% against on 1100 east and 2100 south. 1100 east is already to narrow for traffic. Why is it even necessary? I did a survey at gold’s gym, all i talked to said not 11th east. Bobbi Burton I have lived in sugar house 34 yrs it has been ruined by urban sprawl what once was a quiet neighborhood is NOT anymore! Blue Boutique was the initial downfall. TRAX up 21st and into the sugar house area will just bring more RUIN to this area. Cars parked on our quiet streets so people can take TRAX into SLC and the work. Noisy people off to ride TRAX. It will be like sugar house park on the fourth of July. Why can’t we VOTE on this issue? Thea Brannon Blain Sorenson Cathy Walsh I feel very strongly as a tax payer and as a property owner in the Westminster vicinity (rental property that my daughter will soon reside in) that the 100 east or any other alternative simply doesn’t make financial sense as the optimal use of transportation. 2100 south seems to make the most sense for the reasons that were listed by Luke and Simonsen in their Op eds in the Tribune. Miachel Browning I think the 11th east route is a bad idea. 11th east is tight and congested as it is. If the street car goes to 17th or even 13th south, it’s a train to nowhere. It would be better to go to 13th east or 21st south. Tae the line to foothill blvd. or down 13th east to Westminster college. I don’t see the need to take the line through the sugar house business district at all. There is a stop in sugar house. Its two short blocks from everything. Hasn’t downtown sugar house taken enough hit? Robert Mayer It’s a bit difficult to comment on vague plans for a car expansion of public transit in the part of the city, but i do not se the national for expansion north ward on 11th east. Close to 21 st south, 11th east is already quite congested. I avoid the are now for this reason, especially in the late afternoon. Adding a streetcar would make matters worse. As far as serving Westminster students, why not save tens of millions of dollars by providing a shuttle (the way Georgetown university does in Washington, DC>) Finally, if the streetcar is going to move at the speed of traffic, better bus service would be much less expensive and far more flexible for the long term. Lisa Monson Trolley good idea-connecting our neighborhoods would be great. But- Why do the infrastructure? WHy not have natural gas run trolleys that could drive where needed? 21st to 9th east, etc... Easier to manage longer distances sooner and easier. Seasonal use, changing schedules. 11th east is residential and is also congested. If residence have a trolley track in front of their homes, they will move. Our neighborhood will turn to rentals. Jessica Crouch 11th east is a very narrow street with a very high traffic load. There will be extreme difficulty for people to continue to drive on this street if there is a trolley car (especially trax line) if the eventual goal is to reduce traffic and provide a service to the community for future use, then the long term future should be considered as well. A single line will not suffice after a few years and the reality of turning this into a dual line, when there is already a lack of funding, especially when there is no space will make the street unusable for regular traffic and then ultimately the business and local economy will suffer. There are much better (ie wider) options than 11th east that could provide good access for a similar goal. Sarah Woolsey Dear Mr. Lamalfa. I am a concerned citizen from Sugarhouse. I am concerned that you are making decisions about the streetcar in Sugarhouse based on business people's interests and not citizens. I read a quote from you in the SL Trib today. It might have ben an incomplete quote, I would like to give you a chance to explain yourself further--but here is what it said- "business on 1100E are the kind of service businesses that do not require a car:salons, cafes, dance and yoga studios, a post office." Your decision for the streetcar in this quote is NOT taking the neighborhood citizens into account. It seems business are your focus. I live 1 block from the proposed car. My street , the impact on my home, neighbors, was not studied by the transportation department like the impact on business. No one has studied how this street car will affect the cut through car traffic onto Hollywood Av that risks children and pedestrian safety. We already deal with lots of stress from the busy rush hour streets. I fear the Stcar will impact us event more. When there are slow cars and backups-they cut right through and speed wast on Hollywood to 900E. It happens Mon-Friday. I live 24- 7 at my home. Business are there 9- Tim Imaeu 11100 east already very busy and congested. Current public transportation adequate-bus lines on 1100/1300. Hard to find parking at my house already, let alone when street side parking gets removed on 100 east. North line along 1300 east would serve a higher population than 100 east. North line terminating at 1700 south defeats the purpose of connecting sugar house with the trax line alone 4th south Dale Southard Council members, I would like to contribute comments to the streetcar debate. I have signed the petition at the Central Book Exchange against the 11th East option and watched the council meeting last night on Channel 17 (love that service, BTW). There is not much to add to what has already been said, just our personal reasons why. My wife and I have a very clear vision of what Sugarhouse can become. I run my software services business out of my home at 1978 S 800 E and spend VERY little time driving anymore. My wife Diane Stewart was recently licensed by the city to become the first flower cart in Sugarhouse (Fleurs de Diane). Her land use permit has her pushing her cart to 1044 E 2100 S each day when the weather cooperates. We believe Sugarhouse can be a remarkable, vibrant neighborhood the likes of which have never been seen in the intermountain west. We get what a lifestyle with minimal vehicle use can be and are crafting a lifestyle towards that end; and as such, are huge supporters of the streetcar. We would love to be able to hop a streetcar to Sugarhouse Park. Forget 11th East northbound -- go east! Stephen L. Ferris As a resident in the area of 2100 East 2100 South, I would be much more inclined to use public transportation if the Sugarhouse streetcar route were to come east up 2100 South. More than my own needs, however, I believe the east side community as a whole would derive greater benefit from the streetcar route going east up 2100 South than north along 1100 East. Tom Helme Reliable, convenient public transportation would be big help in improving the air quality problems we have in this valley. The trolley line extending east on 21st would be helpful in reaching these goals. David P Gall Dear Council Members: At 9:15 PM last night, when I left the public hearing, the opinion tally was as follows: • 42 people spoke in opposition to the scheme of the extension thru Sugar House on 1100 East. • 12 people supported the project. I encourage further public hearings that are well advertised so that Council can have a broader perspective and truly understand the opposition to this ill-conceived “plan― . Susan Koelliker I learned about the possibility of a streetcar in my neighborhood this past week going up 21st I believe, after being at this meeting, everyone here is pushing the 21st south because they are against 11th east. Unfortunately, my neighbors have only learned about it this week or still don’t know. I have four children that cross 21st to school every day. A street car would be extremely dangerous and underused in my neighborhood. I carpool with neighbors every day- we are concerned about our environment and that is why we carpool. We purchased out home to live in the city but also to be accessible. I drive in sugar house every day-the buses aren’t full and the traffic is not an issue, please don’t take what we love about our neighborhood! Beverly Hawkins I attended the City Council hearing on the Sugarhouse streetcar this evening and have a few comments. To the extent that this would be part of an overall transportation plan, and would improve public transit in Salt Lake, I would support it. I have lived in other cities where I relied exclusively on public transit, walking or biking, and know that when a system is good that people will use it. I don't think Salt Lake has achieved that level of service yet. And speaker after speaker this evening referred to the fact that there isn't a comprehensive transportation plan in place. I believe that until such a plan is set, it is foolish to extend streetcar routes piecemeal. I am concerned about the references I heard to form-based zoning codes. I doubt that I fully understand this, but I don't understand why the designation of a streetcar route should be accompanied by zoning changes that threaten existing residential areas. The small businesses just north of 2100 South on 1100 East are a great example of using the existing residential buildings for commercial purposes. They blend in well and are part of the charm of the area. I am concerned about the disruption to traffic on streets as narrow as Susan Hagen Thank you for your recent flyer regarding the Sugarhouse streetcar. Due to issues with noise, traffic changes, safety, views and costs the proposed route on 2100S I do not support this proposal. Neither do I support any trolley in in Sugarhouse as it is folley. It creates new traffic, noise, construction and cost issues undesirable in this neighborhood. Dustin Campbell David E. Petersen Pam Cochran I like the idea of a streetcar, but the car(s) needs to be routed in a way that makes sense for future expansion plans. And i would like to know how much it will cost me. Don't route it north on 1100 east from 2100 south. There's nothing to go to, it won't get used. This is a choice between to goo alternatives. However, the main trax line west of West Temple continues to receive more and more Trax traffic. I believe that if the 1100 East line is selected first, it will eventually drop down to 900 East had head north to 400 South effectively by-passing the crowd line near West Temple thereby providing a second route to downtown. I think both the routes should be done, but the 1100 East Route first. Opposes both routes. States that both routes are too narrow. Not a good idea to put the streetcar it on 11th East and 2100 South. Anina Berthold Barry Angstmon Kelly Saunders F. P. McNeil Sren, No! to 21st South Extension for the Sugarhouse Street Car. *The only business I care about on 11th East is the Sugarhouse Post Office, who, by the way....in case you or others don't know contracts Harmon's @ the Brickyard to run a PO office for them=distributes back to them two times daily. Rudy's Keys used to be on 11th East, and now on 10th East north of Millie's Burgers. ...(Rudy's being the close 1st to the PO that I'd care about); 11th Est is alredy too narrow and as gotten worse for 2 lanes of vehicular traffic=PUT the extension either going North OR even to the South going along 11th East to 27th South, eventually going somehow to the 33rd South area to access Plowgian's Car repair which I haven't been able to since UTA Bus Service ceased going from K-Mart to I-215 and then down 33rd South many many years ago. I've lived here since 1964 and hav never seen things so disconnected since UTA became such an elite entity?! LEAVE 21st South OUT of the equasion...and am fervently opposed to it EVER extending to 23rd South!!!???? So NOT a proper, courteous, or "seeing the whole picture" proposal for the future.... I am in favor of the tentative route to highland high - and then up to 21 & 21. We need viable alternatives for n/s transportation on the east bench. No to the extension of Sugar House trax along 1100 e. north Support trax along 2100 s. to foothill drive east of 1300 east. No trax between 1100 e and 133 e along 2100 s. Extension on 1100 e, concerned of traffic congestion and having a train so close to residents. Don't feel there is adequate business to justify line. Sugar house is not a destinatin but rather a residential area. 1100 East "rail to no where." Go east to 21st e & 23rd e then north to foothill village and the U. Sue Ann Jones I am against the streetcar going east on 21st south. Out children walk to school and cross 2100 south. It is more dangerous with crossing with a streetcar. If we want a walking community-lets walk. It is only 2 blocks from sugarhouse up to the park. We can walk. There is no destination east on 21st south. 2100 south is a neighborhoodwe don’t want a street car changing it. The buses are not full, we wont use a streetcar either. 2100 south is a neighborhood street. They city Council talks about having a walking city-let us have it Whitney Ward The Street car should continue down 11 th east to 900 south then run down to 900 east to TRAX. This will serve more residents. More businesses and connect to the U and downtown more effectively Renae Richards I would like to add my voce to those supporting the streetcar extension alternate proposal east to 1300 East and Sugar House Park. This allows the street car to connect with the bicycle path, to a large community park, and to a shopping center. I believe this is a much more efficient use of public funds than to fund transportation to one educational institution. This gives east side neighborhoods a connection to the west side, and brings shoppers and recreators to a highly desired area. I believe this will generate more revenue for the city as well as providing access to a wider variety of options. In addition, since bus service was gutted from the Sugar House neighborhoods south of I-20 a few years ago, it gives us a public transportation alternative. Ned Skanchy Benjamin W. Jordan Michelle Watson Mark Dear Members of the City Council, I thank you for your service to the community. You have a profound impact on how our community is shaped and I appreciate how seriously you all take that responsibility. I both live and work in Sugar House. I live off of 1700 South and 2000 East and work off of 1200 East and 2100 South. Additionally, I own two apartment building in Sugar House with a total of 80 apartment units. Sugar House is going thought some great changes and I am optomistic about the future of this area. However, I am concerned about the impact on traffic the addition of some 2,500 new residents and 1,200 employees will have on the already congested traffic along 2100 South and Highland Drive. I recently had lunch at one of the restaurants in the Sugar House with some business associates and it was so congested getting to the restaurant and so difficult to find parking one of them commented, "this will probably be the last time I come to this area for a meal." I would be very sorry to have Sugar House become so congested with traffic that people start avoiding the area. I see the extension of the street car along Highland Drive and 1100 east as move in the wrong I agree that we must have a comprehensive city-wide transportation master plan before an additional route is chosen. Why hasn't there been discussion of bringing the streetcar west through the Granary district and out to the 900 S. 900 W. area? When will this discussion happen without an overall plan? Opposes to both routes. Too much congestion on streets already to add a streetcar to the mix. Supports the streetcar in Sugar house. Suazanne Parry Jordan Larsen Jo Ann F. Syndergard I am very against the street car in front of my house. I am angry that no one was informed about it going up 2100 south. Charlie Luke has totally has not informed me and the article he wrote in the newspaper was false. I don't want more wires on my street we have enough. I don't want my taxes to go up to pay for it! I have lived on this street for 62 years. I should have a say. I do NOT want the street car to go down 11th east. I do not want anymore congestion on 11th east. NO it is already a pain on 11th east. We have houses. Butch Adams I think it should go up Willington to thru the edge of the park up to 21 st or 23rd east north to veterans hospital & U of U. 11th east is to congested now. The east side it & made it unreal. If you are interested in serving the east side it needs to go EAST! I do not feel the 11th east option for the streetcar is a viable option. the street is too narrow to allow a safe bike travel, its already too congested. Please look for better options. Gray Madrid NO! to TRAX DOWN 1100 east. To congested already, & getting bottled in. Fire, Ambulance a lot harder to get to residents who pay taxes. NO! NO! NO! Reid Judd putting the trolley down 11th east is a huge mistake. 1- traffic would be terrible, we couldn't get home. 2- it would ruin the atmosphere of the whole area 3- go up 21 st as suggested by the Council Member * Don't go down 11th east!! Merrill Syndergard Scott Kisling Councilmen Luke and Simonsen have both articulated my concerns that this decision residents should wait until a City wide transportation plan has been made. Residents east of 2100 east, which I represent, prefer an alignment along 2110 south, eventually reaching the 21/21 Business district, the 2300 east/2100 south business area and beyond, to invigorate these areas that are ripe for redevelopment. Other Reasons: 1- highest bus ridership in City is 2100 south. 2- many employees working in my area live in salt lake + west. 3many residents in my area work along 2100 south, west of I80. 4- Eventual light rail along foothill to the south & to the east would benefit from a feeder system like this. 5- I'm tires of walling one mile to the 21 bus! Alice Parkinson If any street parking is taken out along 11th east it will be harmful to small businesses on 11th east that depend on that parking. what will happen to like lanes? why is the bus not sufficient? Mark & Debbie Unrah I/live in the area. Have so far over 20 years. we are strongly opposed to the streetcar expansion down 1100 east. It is too small of a street to provide this type of multiple use. It is in our opinions not needed desired, or safe. we are all for reducing pollution throughout the City, so we are not against public transit. Please create a master plan. Please make wise decisions on where it is placed. 1100 east just doesn't make sense. Please keep us informed and included in a transparent fashion. Carol Carter I represent ETC Group and ETC sugar house LLC or small businesses and property owner on 1100 east. We strongly support phase 2a &2b (to 1100 east and 2100 south) and we also support bringing the street car up to 1100 east and 1700 south. Increase tax-yes! More stops on street yes! Please listen to the voice of the people! NO street car on Highland Dr. Thank you. Would like to vote on this. G. Kils I prefer the east route toward highland high for the following reasons: 1-enough congestion at 2100 south/1100 east-give the local businesses and residents a break. 2east route serves a more viable business district. 3- ties in nicely with bus routes. 4allows for future expansion to the east and north. 5- cheaper alternative. Greg Schegel LeeAnn Bywaters Chirs Collier Michael Glover Sara Solaimania Ken Wheadon Dana Curtis My biggest concern is that this street car issue is down to the final approval and I just got something in the mail about it 2 weeks ago and it was the first I heard of it. I support any street car plan as long as you can still turn left. the trolley on 1100 e is a bad idea because it would necessitate tearing out the beautification project to make room for something ugly for our neighborhood! I do not want the TRAX on 11th east because it is a narrow congested street. I want it to come up 21st south. Street car should go east to foothill go north on foothill connect to U of U TRAX. Ute route 220 & 213 already drives to Westminster College. As a concerned resident and citizen of the sugar house area. I am opposed to the streetcar coming down 1100 east. Kristin Riker I am opposed to the 1100 east street car. 1100 east is a walling /biking community and a street car would congest this area. I patron boxing is for girls, fiddlers elbow, Millcreek café, and Barnes and noble. Walking in this community is a pleasant experience. I am for public transportation expansion in particular on 2100 south. this would serve Highland High school students, and those who use public transportation most, our youth and young adults. thank you for your consideration. Heather Bradbury prefer Alt B3 heading E on 2100 connecting foot traffic to the park and high school. 11th east from 21 to 1700. does not get foot traffic and run risk of losing business. Tagge Solaimanian Dear Council Members, we have been small business owner on 1100 east for the last 22 years. I wish the street car go to east on 2100 south. 1100 east is very congested and narrow street. It make sense to me that 2100 south route will connect to U of U and Hospital in the future. Solissa Welden I currently have a boutique on 1100 e. My business would not survive the construction nor do I think that going up 1100 e would serve any purpose. It would destroy what myself and other small business wonders have worked so hard to keep afloat and my business depends on loyal customers but also random people driving up 1100 east. It should go east on 2100 south towards the park. I am passionate about this stupid idea. Constance Cranptin please listen to the people who live and work here. 1100 east is too busy congested narrow for the "mayors preferred plan" does he live here? Work here? The east side deserves some transit options all area school would benefit form 2100 south plan. Michael Bruschke no "trolley" at all- 21 is already incredibly congested is a trolley would certainly make it worse. where would cyclist go? (small street) what happens to the street parking that businesses depend on? A trolley down 11th is equally as disastrous. NO TROLLEY! Dan Flandro 1- the TRAX route up 21 south would A-jam up an already difficult street. (I've lived here 60 years the TRAX should go north along 1300 east not 11th) this would allow TRAX access to the U, Connection and allow. (the Council who apparently allowed all the large apartment complexes to have access to Westminster the U and back to 4th south. There's plenty of space on 13th east-east south of the sizzler for a stop to be built. DONT jam up 21st so for Highland. Its a block walk through the park. Mark Eliason I really have appreciated the outreach o the community regarding the very important issue of the Sugarhouse Trolley. If the City Council had not proceeded with this specific peoples I do believe that the full weight of the opinions of people would not have been heard. I am a long time resident of Sugar house and am against the development of the street along 11th east. I have 5 children several of whom attend Emerson Elementary. I am concerned about how narrow 11th east is, what would happen to the bike lanes, weather there will more accidences and the inconvenience due to congestion on the street. My thanks for your time in considering my opinion. Bill Cordray There are multiple long range impacts of these two choices that require a more thorough discussion with respect to City, County transportation issues. we need to solve these problems first. With the help of an outside R/udat type group which has no conflict of local interest. We should study excellent transportation solutions such as the ohiribitule, brazil Articulated bus routes which enrich the City and connect to spokes of trains that feed the City center, however, if I had to choose now 21st south makes more sense. I have no additional rational that would include many more points that you have not already heard. I do like ideas that avoid the 21st/highland and 21st 13th east intersections, such as routes via Wilmington or Shopko, one radical option: cross 13th east Wilmington and create a streetcar line that accompanies the proposed parleys trail and encircle the park counter clockwise back to Wilmington, w/no impact on streets. Maocum I am opposed to running a streetcar north on 1100 east. I strongly oppose the long term plan for further extension to 900 south) This street, in my opinion, should be, maintained as a very bicycle and pedestrians friendly street, with respect given to the residential neighborhood. A streetcar will bring additional noise, lighting, congestion removal of trees, etc. Most of my neighbors commute east (to the university, research park, hospitals, schools not downtown)this route does not enhance connectivity to resources that are not already in easy walking or cycling distance. Please use an existing traffic through fare such as 21st south, or 1300 east has better connectivity potential with Westminster, U of U, east high etc. 2100 south has better potential to loop and link with both Westminster and the U of U. I don't see this 1100 east route as cycling friendly. I also view 11th rout as limited access to my local post office. Jon Roderick STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Annika Cook Dear Salt Lake City Council, I just signed 2100 Against's petition "Salt Lake City Council: STOP Street Car Rail Spur Up 2100 South" on Change.org. Here's why I signed: This will increase the theft in our neighborhoods if we allow this. We already are a prime spot for for targeted robberies in our area. I am not interested in this. Tyson Larsen STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Liz Cook STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Change.org Dear Salt Lake City Council, 2100 Against started a petition "Salt Lake City Council: STOP Street Car Rail Spur Up 2100 South" targeting you on Change.org that's starting to pick up steam. Change.org is the world's largest petition platform that gives anyone, anywhere the tools they need to start, join and win campaigns for change. Change.org never starts petitions on our own -- petitions on the website, like "Salt Lake City Council: STOP Street Car Rail Spur Up 2100 South", are started by users. While "Salt Lake City Council: STOP Street Car Rail Spur Up 2100 South" is active, you'll receive an email each time a signer leaves a comment explaining why he or she is signing. You'll also receive periodic updates about the petition's status. Here's what you can do right now to resolve the petition: • Review the petition. Here's a link: o http://www.change.org/petitions/salt-lakecity-council-stop-street-car-rail-spur-up-2100south • See the 5 signers and their reasons for signing on the petition page. • Respond to the petition creator by sending a message here: o http://www.change.org/petitions/salt-lakecity-council-stop-street-car-rail-spur-up-2100- Lisa Stringham Many children walk to Dilworth Elementary and must cross 21st South. Due to safety concerns, many parents choose to drive their children to school bcause they feel the intersection is not safe for their children to cross by foot. This has greatly added to the traffic during rush hour on 21st East. By adding a trolly line , even more parents will drive their children to school, adding to the already horrible traffic in the area. Jim Olson Scott Sorensen STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Here's why I signed: Develop a well thought out plan first - don't expand street car service without first validating ridership/cost assumptions of initial line set to run later this year John Stringham I am opposed to the street car spur up 2100 South. Before doing anything further, the city should develop a master plan. Taking a spur up 2100 South increases the likelihood of collisions by inexperienced drivers attending Highland High. Hundreds of children who attend Dilworth live South of 2100 and will have to cross an already busy street to get to elementary school each day. Adding a streetcar will unnecessarily endanger the lives of those young children and would add to the already heavy congestion. In listening to the discussion tonight at the William Deutschman city council meeting, I heard a number of comments about the streetcar damaging the pedestrian and bike experience along 1100 East. I cannot speak to the pedestrian experience, but both my wife and I are daily bike commuters in the area. I commute to Westminster college and often ride to meet my wife who bike commutes to the sugarhouse clinic on Wilmington avenue. I do have some concerns about the hazard that the streetcar tracks pose to bicyclists. That is pretty well documented. But, anyone who tells you that putting a streetcar in will ruin some idyllic bike transit option is someone who has not ridden that area. 1100 east is a route of necessity or last resort for bicyclists. Between the auto traffic, narrow shoulders (at the south end) and seemingly random driveways and parking areas, that route is already quite dangerous for bicyclists. Though I have no data to support it, my strong hunch is that the re-planning of the street that comes as part of the project will make it safer than it is now. I have ridden the streetcars in NW Portland, and have observed the bicycle traffic there (as seen through the eyes of someone who rides Bryan Piteck I wanted to email regarding the various Sugarhouse Streetcar routes and the project in general. I own a small business (The Subway Sandwich Restaurant), on 2100 S and 1000 E. While various transit options in this area are considered it is my hope that the City Council will pick the options that least effect vehicular traffic in this area. Particularly traffic flowing east and west on 2100 South. As you know this is a major flow east to west in this part of town for vehicles. Too often mass transit is opted for at the expense of vehicle travel. The elimination of vehicle travel lanes, extra traffic signals, and other requirements of the mass transit project can drastically effect vehicles traveling in this area. Drivers can tend to take other routes if these routes become more congested for them, because of the addition of the Streetcar. This can often at best, provide a wash to the movement of people in a given area. I am puzzled by the recommended route of the project to North on 1100 East. There does not seem to be great need for this. Likewise going further east from Sugarhouse Center to me, is questionable. Thank you for your consideration and I hope this will be Tonia Torrence Read your card, Of course going up wilmington and then up 2100st to 17th E is the best route. Glad to see that one of you can think analytically So how much money was wasted on worthless consultants with worthless information. they must have been related to someone in city payroll Amanda Longwell I’m writing about the possible expansion of the street car along 1100 E and highland. My opinion... BAD IDEA 1. 1100 E is TOO NARROW for current traffic, parking and pedestrians. 2. As a mom with young kids, it’s nice to walk to the area stores, however, it is already concerning enough to take my kids on a walk in the area with as congested it is, let alone add a street car will just make it even less appealing to take my kids on a walking excursion to the shops/restaraunts (ps.. KEEP THE FLAGS... add more if possible... Drivers really don’t pay attention and having the extra flag to draw attention to let them know to stop helps A LOT) 3. the trax that will come into sugarhouse, meets up with the trax that goes north on 300 west that heads into down town and up to the U.. there is no need to add a street car on highland to go north where there will already be an ability to avoid driving to get to downtown or the U via trax once the line is up and running into sugarhouse 4. Adding a streetcar along highland/1100 East will most likely wipe out the ability for the 4th of july street fair to occur since that would shut down the street car line which I assume wouldn’t be Ashley Eddington Hoopes I am a resident of Salt Lake City. I am unable to make tonight's hearing because of a sick child. But I would like to express my support for extending the Sugarhouse streetcar east. I know many families who would utilize the addition from the park, down to the restaurants and shops, and back again. Boller Robson Family As residents representing 1011 E. Hollywood and 1005 E. Hollywood Ave, one block east of 1100 East (1945 South), we are ADAMANTLY against the streetcar proposal for 1100 East. We support mass transportation, and support the streetcar being reconsidered for 1300 East rather than 1100 East. Currently our neighborhood, which is one block north of 2100 South is being over whelmed by cars trying to avert traffic on 2100 South, 9th East and 11th East. We are burdened by non residential traffic using our neighborhood as a shortcut, and now increasingly, a parking lot for the businesses/apartments on 2100 South and 1100 East. A streetcar on the narrow 1100 East would only increase cars trying to "get around" areas they want to move through quickly. We believe that in the short-term the streetcar should extend east to 1300 East and Sugar House Park. This would sever to connect the streetcar to all major bus routes that serve Sugar House between 500 East and 1300 East, there by extending the catchment area served by mass transit. Using 1100 East would only serve to further over burden the surrounding neighborhoods. This highly contrary to a "walkable city". Chari Engle I do not think having Trax along 11th East from 21st So. to l7th South would be cost effective nor helpful to residents here in the vicinity. 11th East is already narrow & adding a Trax line would cause congestion that is not needed. If future plans indicate Trax traveling along 11th East further, it is already blocked by the area around Judge Memorial High School. It would be more feasible to continue up farther east along 21st South. The route continuing East along 21st South would be a better solution. Westminster Housing is already built/occupied(?) on 13th East. Another apartment complex is now being built on 21st So. & 11th East. A potential passenger increase will soon be a reality. The area along 11th East & 21st South is a historic area which passengers can now reach with Trax already available to that destination. To continue on up East to Sugar House Park and Highland Hi School would service the East Bench population & eventually continue on up towards the U of U to complete the circle there and on around to the down town area. I have been a resident here in Sugar House just below 11th East for many, many years. I think the other route will be best. Kimberly Payne I am a resident on Hollywood Avenue. My street connects to 1100 East right before the Sugar House post office. My concerns with placing the Streetcar on 1100 East are the following: I am concerned with additional traffic driving through our residential neighborhood when drivers choose not to use 1100 East during construction of/subsequent use of the Streetcar. I like the charm of 1100 East as it is right now. It is very pedestrian friendly. I don't want to lose that. In my opinion, 1100 East is too narrow. Why not place the Streetcar on 1300 East? Doing so will still allow patrons to get to Sugar House Park, Westminster College, and a local High School. An additional advantage would be that this line could tie in to the East-West Trax line by the University of Utah more readily than the 1100 East line, which will be forced to turn at some point. Thank you for considering these comments in this important decision. Robert Bereskin To whom it may concern, Further traffic congestion in the Sugarhouse area is not needed. In my considerable experience, Salt Lake City is one of the worst Western cities in terms of traffic flow--has remained so for the 29 years that I have lived here. If you like 1300 East and its crazy recent modification, you might love 1100 East or 2100 South for the same twisted reasons. The consequences are obvious to me. Bike lanes and streetcars are wonderful green ideas to a point. The ramifications upon congested, start-and -stop driving also need careful consideration. We have done very little on this issue as people will still drive cars willynilly in the City. I urge you to look at 1300 East as a analogue of what I would term municipal meddling. Brigham Young did have a good idea for SLC streets; we are slowly making a mess of his foresight by going a bit overboard in many cases. Sabrina Scott Dear Council Members, I've already commented via OpenCityHall but I would like to add my support again for the Eastern leg of the streetcar as the first priority. I live just off 1100 East and would love to have access to the street car on 11th but I believe as many others have pointed out that the Eastern leg should receive priority. I must add too, though not necessarily part of the scope for street car improvements, conduit for public fiber optic infrastructure must become part of every single new construction effort. In SLC, we are quickly falling behind the country and the world when it comes to affordable high speed Internet. High speed (Gig+) networking technology adoption must become part of our city's strategic planning. It holds great hope for solving some of our energy and environmental problems. Kelly Paasch To Whom it May Concern; As a long time resident of Sugar House, I have to agree with Charlie Luke in his reasons for directing the new trax line to 1700E to sugarhouse park. In addition to his excellent points I think its also important to note the number of commuters that chose not to ride their bikes instead of drive. When my schedule permits, I chose to commute by bike as well. My commute starts at about 2100 E and 2200 S and ends at Salt Lake City Airport. There are two sections of my commute that cause the most danger. The first is Red Wood Road (Now alleviated by the new airport trax) and the second is 1700 S, 2100 S, or even 1300 S between about 1100 E and 1500 E. 1700 S has a ride as traffic bike zone that is very dangerous, especially on the uphill. Cars become quickly irritated with going at the slow pace of a bike and often respond with aggressive traffic deviations. This section is so bad that I won't do the commute during rush hour, low visibility, or bad road conditions for fear of being involved in a bike/car accident. Having a trax line that safetly transported the commuter through this section would make it plausible for most of the year, and save significant stress on J Niels I received your letter today, regarding the proposed street car extension. I've watched with interest as the local news stations report that the recommended extension run North on 11th East. They've cited how students at Westminster feel this would be in the best interest of the city, but how many Westminster students own property in Salt Lake? How many plan on being here in 10 years? Not that students shouldn't have a voice, but from the news coverage I've seen, a small group from Westminster seem to be the only proponents of a street car extension running North on 11th East. It seems the City Council is ready to force this through without thinking it through. I'm a life-long resident of Salt Lake City, and I own a house a Wilson Ave between 11th East and Westminster College. For whatever it's worth, I feel that extending the street car north on 11th East is a huge mistake. During rush hour or lunch time, turning North or South on 11th East is already next to impossible. Traffic at the Post Office is already a nightmare. A street car extension going North on 11th East is going to cause more congestion to an already congested surface street, making it difficult for people Tom Mumford Soren, I cannot attend Tuesday's meeting, but as property owner in your district, I strongly agree with your proposal to extend east on 21st south to 13th east, highland high and beyond. That will connect vital areas and provide much easier access for many with less vehicle congestion. Thank you for being forward thinking. Mike Rasch I am writing to express my support for extending the streetcar line eastward from 1100 East to Sugarhouse Park and eventually farther east on 2100 South, rather than extending it to the north along 1100 East. I am an apartment building owner near Sugarhouse Park. Public transportation is currently lacking in the area above 1300 East along the 2100 South corridor. It is currently inconvenient for my tenants and others living in the area near Sugarhouse Park to use public transportation to access the downtown area, the University of Utah, and the Foothill Village area. An eastward extension of the streetcar line fits better with existing public transportation and planned future changes. Hilary Pembroke I have never understood why the streetcar is stopping where it is. It makes no sense to me. I have always wanted it to go to parleys and 23rd east, then up 23rd east, foothill and connect at university. We have the schools and businesses, the park. 21st south is so wide parallel to the park. People drive crazy from 17th to 23rd. Bus service is unreliable. But I think you can see the big picture I have here. When I lived on Berkeley and Oneida, I was so bummed it wasn't coming up there. Now I'm in southwest end of highland park. My street zenith is the third thru way to highland/13th with Stratford and 27th. 27th has more cars on it than ever intended. It would be great to have it come down 17th to 27th from 21st south. Even imperial! I get so sick of driving back and forth!!! Anyway I could go on about it forever. I want it everywhere. But having it up to 23rd and parleys to me is a no brainer. Thanks so much!! Hilary Pembroke F. Tempel Reikhof I very much favor the recommendation made by Soren Simonsen to plan the future routing of the TRAX line through the Sugarhouse area to proceed East along 2100 South rather than North along 1100 East. Scott Stillman I have seen all the reports and project information. No where is there mention of using a BUS system for any of these routes. A dedicated BUS system could do ALL the options stated in the proposals, cheaper faster and more efficient. The BUS could be designed to look like a streetcar to make the diehards happy. It could actually drop people off right at Westminister, instead of having to walk up the hill, then go to Highland. The BUS route could be changed and used for special occasions, like the 4 July, shuttle to Sugarhouse. A BUS system would not require tracks and overhead wires. I think some people are pushing a historic transportation system for their own personal glory. With the economy not as rebust as it once was we really need to look at what is best for the community and the pocketbook. A streetcar in a residenial neighborhood, with limited service and high cost is not practical. Its not too late to change the plans. Allen Barker Thank you for sending the letter about the public hearing about the future expansion of TRAX. I read it carefully and agree with your assessment/reasons on the benefits of extending the streetcar east to 1300 East and Sugarhouse Park. So please add me as one who agrees with that proposal. Regarding the City Council meeting on Tuesday, April 23, I have a conflict with that time, but would miss the conflicting appointment if attending the City Council meeting would be of benefit. I don't really know if attending would show support or be noticed. I couldn't add to the reasons you have stated. Would the City Council ask those attending for a vote on what they want? If so, I would definitely attend. But if not, my other meeting is also important. Please advise. One other comment: Your letter is dated April 12, but it arrived today, April 20. Not much notice time about the meeting on the 23rd. Also, where is the best place to park around the City and County Building? Jon Merrill Thank you for the letter regarding the new streetcar route. I loved your ideas and proposal of sending the street car East rather than north. That makes much more sense to me. I live at 12th E and 16th So. just one block north of Westminster. I am unable to attend the community input meeting as I work nights but wanted you to know that I loved your ideas and appreciate you representing our neighborhoods so conscientiously. Becky Burbidge We are residents of SLC and reside at 2246 Country Club Dr. We oppose extending Trax all the way up 2100 South. This would negatively impact our neighborhood. Our understanding is that it was to turn at 1100 East and connect with Westminster and the U of U. We feel this is still the best plan. Nancy Huntsman Dear Council Members, I own several rental units just a block from the new streetcar line. I am very excited about this important addition to public transit. I know it will be of significant interest and benefit to my tenants, some of whom don't own cars. As you contemplate the streetcar routing, I hope you will give serious consideration to the proposal that routes the streetcar to Sugarhouse Park and further east toward the high school. It only makes sense that the car run to a site where existing density and usage promises ridership. In addition to the high school, the shopping corridor along 21st will be well served. People don't ride public transit for the view, they ride it to get someplace. 2100 So and 1300 East is the very core of Sugarhouse. Send the line to where people need to go already! Thank you for your consideration, Nancy Huntsman Katie Eccles I have grave concerns about the proposed extension of the Sugarhouse streetcar eastward up 2100 South that I just learned about in a letter from Soren Simonsen. First, despite the letter's assertions of new residents in Sugarhouse, I am not convinced that we have the densities in the greater Sugarhouse neighborhoods to support the necessary ridership of the streetcar and to keep the costs down. Furthermore, without a certain number of people opting for public transport over driving their own car, there is also not the associated easing of congestion that is, simultaneously, aggravated by an above-ground, on-street rail. Also, I am not certain that there is any really draw for riders to continue up 2100 East. The "21st &21st business district" essentially consists of a Great Harvest, a pilates studio, a corner coffee shop and a diner, with no room for expansion and it is next to an elementary school. This is not a destination district commensurate with 9th & 9th or even 15th & 15th. Has an independent study been conducted that establishes the number of people who desire to go to the proposed stops up the east of 2100 South and that they will indeed ride a streetcar there? David and Leslie Smoot City Council Members, We are unable to attend tonight’s City Council meeting, but wanted our opinion to be heard. We live on the East Bench, above Foothill Village. Charlie Luke is our City Councilman. We take The Tribune and appreciate the editorials that have been written by the Councilmen regarding the future Sugar House Streetcar route. We have lived in our house for 20 years and have watched as our public transportation options have gotten fewer. A UTA bus used to come within a block of our house; we now have to walk about a mile to the nearest stop. We agree with Charlie Luke’s statement that “the east bench area is terribly underserved by public transportation.―Our family uses public transportation whenever possible, but its current routes are inconvenient, at best. We realize our teenagers who attend Highland High and swim/work at Fairmont pool will have graduated by the time this streetcar option becomes available; however, as Mr. Luke says, routing the Streetcar east “demonstrates that the City is committed to public transportation options for all of its residents, and that there is a future for reliable public transportation on the east Mark Von Wagoner STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Wendy Carrigan I am VERY opposed to this! Our little children cross 2100 south to get to school every day. It is already very dangerous and adding a street car and more traffic would just increase the danger to our children.We don't need any more traffic than we already have. This is a residential neighborhood. I don't feel like we need it a street car any where near our neighborhood. This would lower the value of our property! It would make our whole neighborhood less desirable. I don't even feel like a street car should come in to Sugar House at all. Sugar House is not that kind of a community. It is a quaint little area and does not need any more traffic than it already has. It is already quite congested for its size. Please do NOT put a street car in Sugar house at all!! Thank you :) Suzi Olson STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Emily Bullen STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Lorraine Chin My Mother, Betty Chin who lives on 18th E. and 21st So. requested that I write and let you know of her opposition to the proposed Trax extension to 23rd East in particular. When she bought her home over 50 years ago she envisioned a quiet and peaceful residential neighborhood where one could retire. This dream life away from noise and traffic would be compromised as not everyone wants to buy a house by Trax lines and transportation hubs. The city is brought to the neighborhoods doorstep. This can work against homeowners living here and can also bring down the desirability of homes in what was zoned as a residential neighborhood and once ideal location. The new Trax/Sugar House Streetcar line being built in the heart of Sugarhouse from the Central Pointe Station should be sufficient to move people to this vital area of commerce. Bus connections would lessen the impact in these underlining neighborhood spurs on 11th East to 8th So. or 21st So. to 23rd East. Residential integrity would be maintained as no one enjoys paying tax increases on what is considered nonessential services. We need to try and maintain the services we already have. If the existing Trax lines and buses are Jessica Hatch Council members: I attended the April 4 meeting at Sprague Library. I have read a major portion of the documents developing the final alternatives for the Streetcar. I have also read Councilmen Simonsen and Luke’s comments. Their arguments are well put. You have a very tough decision. In the end I favor the B2 proposal—north on 1100 East to 1700 South because, from my reading, it seems to best integrate with larger master plans and future use projections for transportation within the Study Area, including possibilities for serving existing and new mixed uses. While the corridor is extremely narrow, there is no alternative where road width is not a challenge. I can live with the B3 – east on 2100 S. to 1700 East. Thank you for your considered attention to this exciting project. Don Avery I am opposed to the Trax line options of extending the line on 11th East to 8th South or 21st South to 23rd East. Trax trains should not run in residential neighborhoods. Buses are cheaper, do the same job, and can be rerouted as needed. There is enough high density development in Sugarhouse. I do not want to see my taxes increase to pay for additional Trax line construction and maintenance. Thanks! Sonja Heuscher Hello City Council members, Thank you for hosting the townhall meeting for the public. I left a video comment at the meeting regarding the streetcar routes. I live near the 7-11 that is on Highland Drive. I would love to see a streetcar on Highland Drive. I also think it would be great to have either a street car or a dedicated trax line on 21st South. Perhaps the monument plaza in Sugarhouse would make a good transportation hub for a north-south and east-west streetcar lines. You were faced with a lot of opposition to the streetcar at the townhall meeting because people are resistant to change and they love their cars. I'm sure that you can come up with a design that allows traffic to move past the street car when it stops. I think that after the streetcar is built, city residents will quickly learn to love it as well. Thank you again and good luck. Nicole Herbert What a joke! Sorry! 21st to 17th on 11th EAst. Ripping up our darling city for a few blocks trolley ride! Causing a huge increase to traffic congestion that is ALREADY an issue on 11th East and the disruption to ALL our business on 11th is just ridiculous. We don't want it! Take the bus or walk! Sugar House is a walking and biking neighborhood. Please don't clog us up and pollute our air by piling up cars putting behind a trolley with 3 people on it. Thank you. Robert Peacock 1) Stop where it is and monitor usage 2) How will expansion be funded 3) Spend my tax money for air traffic controllers benefitting thousands not street cars for a few 4) 11th East already too congested 5) Going down 21st S to 1700 or 2100 E is almost all residential 6) 21st S is needed for people to get to work, especially to the U 7) Many major E/W Streets have already been reduced by center turn lanes, and bike lanes not being used and useless in the winter 8) If you want to live where there are no cars, move to the country this is a city. 9) High school kids drive cars! 10) Buses are chaper and more flexable Laura Fuhriman After listening to the comments at tonights meeting I am concerned that there does not seem to be a master plan in place. I saw the proposed routes and not one of them goes into Sugar House park which was one of the main points talked about. In the literature there was no mention of how this would affect homeowners taxes. There does not seem to be any option to not having the streetcar in sugarhouse but just end it where it is now being built. We would like to be able to vote on these proposals. Anne Cannon I favor the street car line going east as the next phase of this Sugar House transit line. I feel we need to get going with transit on the east side of our city. I hope the line will eventually extend east to foothill Blvd. and on north to the U of U and the Trax line there. The eleventh East line in the future will also be valuable as a north-south connection along with a much needed city wide transit plan to meet our multi-age, business growth and future needs. Thank you. John Neville * I don't think we need to expand the Sugar House streetcar * The streetcar was sold to us as a 2.5 mile slow streetcar to bring shoppers to Sugar House. Not to disrupt the neighborhoold. By expanding service will increase the rail traffic likely include another track. Likely impacting the neighborhood feel. * If you must expand service there is plenty of north south options already. I feel there is not enough east-west service *Avoid impacting 21st S 11th E intersection. It is already too busy. I would prefer to see the streetcar run up sugarhouse park and up 2100 South Susan Keynard for Donna Klenk (mother) I am representing my 88 year old mother who lives just west of westminster college on Blaire Ave. I am concerned about the accessability to her street. 11th East is the only access to her home since 12th East was closed off several years ago. If we need the streetcar please send it up 21st not down 11th east. Greg Bergmann I would strongly prefer the streetcar to run East-West along 2100 South to Sugar House Parkn and beyond. We need more transit services ont he East Bench. Westminster College is too close to the Sugar House Business District to warrant dedicated streetcar service. David Morrow Kelly White Although I don't live in Sugarhouse I spend a lot of time shopping and visitng restaurants in Sugar House. I am glad that the city is investing in a streetcar. What I would like to see is thqt the city will invest in transportation on the East Bench. The east bench is greatly underserved with very limited to non-existent bus service and no TRAX service. It would be nice if the streetcar could East. I understand that the consultant recommended the streecar head north but I am concerned that route would create more congestion in an laready busy street. If eventually the streetcar was expanded north beyond 1700 South it would make more sense. It would be ideal if the car could go east to Sugar House and go up 2100 South but if there could also be a route north in 1100 East but farther then 1700 South which seems like a dead end route the continue up to 900 South. Kathy Hills I am opposed because a lot of the people in Sugar House can't afford to ride transit. I personally find that I cang et to work faster in my car (10 min) than using transit which takes an hour tog et to work. I think you should continue the tracks up through Shopping Center by the theaters and Shopko area to Sugarhouse Park. Then ahve the TRAX circle the park back. The park could be used as a park and ride area. Clayton Helme I would like the trolley line to go East on 2100 South up to the park and Highland drive. It has been mentioned that Sugarhouse Park was not part of the study which I feel was a mistake. The Sugar House Park is a big draw for many people and is the main reason I think the streetcar should go up to 2100 South. Lisa Eisenberg I feel that there needs to be more study and consideration of a third alternative. Neither 2100 South nor 1100 East seems to be a pleasant alternative. Those of us who live close to Sugar House Park moved there because of the natural beauty of the area; Posts and lines for a streetcar would blight the aesthetic value of a priceless view. Ridership wiould not be sufficient to sacrifice that which most residents prize the most. 1100 EAst is far too narrow and congest. Why not consider 700 East and use busses as connectors , similar to the "MARTA" system in Atlanta or "MAX" ih Portland. Felice Wafford. Sheikh Safiullah I am against the north proposed route for the 1100 E streetcar which I would think would be a tremendously bad mistake. I think that would cause more congestion on 700 E, 500 E, and 1300 E which is already clogging up because of more traffic due to the initial first phase of the UTAstreetcar project. IO think that just because we have the FEderal money doesn't mean we have to spend it quickly or without taking into effect the economic, social, and environmental impact and the business impact that 2100 South and 1100 Seast impact. If I had to pick the lesser of two evils I would choose the 2100 South option instead of 11000 east. That steeet is much too narrow and is charming and quiant and I just think it would be a disastorus decision and wrong one. Yes it's gonna be troublesome. If I had to choose completely I would say to end the trax line at phase one it's not gonna help people to have to walk it would actually be benefitcal to walk it is a walking neighborhood sae as mine. Walking is not a bad thing. Take this into consideration. I oppose Sugar House Streetcar route beyond 900 East and 2100 South. I support Mayor's plan to keep streetcar route up to 900 East and 2100 South. Please do not take street car route toward East of 900 East. Thank you. Kathleen Parker To who it may concern, Street cars or not! Sugarhosue is and has been a large part of my life, it is unique.When you made changes to 11th east making it narrow, ahrd to park, and it is just a mess. Next it was the holethat should never have been given the okay to tear all the locations down and sirupt that part of Sugarhouse. It is still a mess. Then you get this bright idea of a street car to Sugarhouse from South Salt Lake. Well, that in itself will bring a lot of problems to the area, that we have not had. Yes, you had the track to Fairmont Park area. So you didn't have to put out the money to start a new line. Now you want to change 11th east again as narrow as it is to put the streetcar going North, what about the small business and psot office and ho,mes that would be effected. Again! Next to go up 21st south that is another Fiasco, we hav always been proud of our wide streets. Then north thru quiet neighborhoods. What are you thinking? I grew up with the streetcaron 17th east, they made the street wide to do this. They were anxious to get them off mains treet downtown. They are noisy. Many of you never had the privelege of living and growing up in the sugarhouse Hilary Gordon Jill and Kyle, I am a Police Officer with SLCPD, I also live in Sugarhouse at 1038 East Garfield Avenue. I just wanted to convey my feelings about the street car that is proposed to go down 1100 East. I am against the street car. Frankly, I am tired of the city narrowing every single street in the city. Not everyone rides a bike. Not everyone has the option of taking trax. There is still 6 months of winter in Utah. I also feel that people are very attached to their cars. They are not going to stop driving their cars because a street car gets put in. As a police officer who lives in Sugarhouse, I do not have the option of riding trax or a bike to work. I drive a police car. The traffic is SO congested because of the lack of roads for vehicles that this is only going to make things worse. Responding to calls is harder. Serving the public is getting really difficult when you can’t get anywhere due to the lack of roads. Making a street car up 2100 South or down 1100 East is only going to make it worse. With all of the buildings and apartments going up in Sugarhouse…this is going to add more traffic. Most people in that area will NOT use trax or the street car, it doesn’t serve a purpose for the people Hilary Gordon Jill and Kyle, I am a Police Officer with SLCPD, I also live in Sugarhouse at 1038 East Garfield Avenue. I just wanted to convey my feelings about the street car that is proposed to go down 1100 East. I am against the street car. Frankly, I am tired of the city narrowing every single street in the city. Not everyone rides a bike. Not everyone has the option of taking trax. There is still 6 months of winter in Utah. I also feel that people are very attached to their cars. They are not going to stop driving their cars because a street car gets put in. As a police officer who lives in Sugarhouse, I do not have the option of riding trax or a bike to work. I drive a police car. The traffic is SO congested because of the lack of roads for vehicles that this is only going to make things worse. Responding to calls is harder. Serving the public is getting really difficult when you can’t get anywhere due to the lack of roads. Making a street car up 2100 South or down 1100 East is only going to make it worse. With all of the buildings and apartments going up in Sugarhouse…this is going to add more traffic. Most people in that area will NOT use trax or the street car, it doesn’t serve a purpose for the people Hilary Gordon I am a Police Officer with SLCPD, I also live in Sugarhouse at 1038 East Garfield Avenue. I just wanted to convey my feelings about the street car that is proposed to go down 1100 East. I am against the street car. Frankly, I am tired of the city narrowing every single street in the city. Not everyone rides a bike. Not everyone has the option of taking trax. There is still 6 months of winter in Utah. I also feel that people are very attached to their cars. They are not going to stop driving their cars because a street car gets put in. As a police officer who lives in Sugarhouse, I do not have the option of riding trax or a bike to work. I drive a police car. The traffic is SO congested because of the lack of roads for vehicles that this is only going to make things worse. Responding to calls is harder. Serving the public is getting really difficult when you can’t get anywhere due to the lack of roads. Making a street car up 2100 South or down 1100 East is only going to make it worse. With all of the buildings and apartments going up in Sugarhouse…this is going to add more traffic. Most people in that area will NOT use trax or the street car, it doesn’t serve a purpose for the people who actually live in Sugarhouse. I also Unknown - Voicemail - Comment Line This constituent was not able to make the streetcar public hearing. The constituents family has lived on Blain Ave since 1938 and does not want a streetcar extension on 11th East. She voices that it is a residential area and pleads with the council to not ruin the atmosphere on 11th East with a streetcar. She also states that she has 8 votes against this route. Gael Murdock Regarding the Sugarhouse Trax proposal, I am vehemently opposed to extending the 'trolley' line north on 11th east. The 21st south makes much more sense for all the reasons we are hearing in the media. Additionally, I teach special education students at Highland High School. All are involved in vocational training within the Sugarhouse community. Access to business sites they will be able to utilize for training purposes will be immensely expanded with the Trax on 21st. I have owned 3 rentals and a residence in the Sugarhouse area. There exists a certain comfort and open feeling in this neighborhood. It is one of two areas that exude an "Old Town" feeling in Salt Lake, the 9th and 9th area being the other. That area additionally has the potential to be disrupted in the future as I understand it. Once this ambience and 'funkiness' is gone, it won't miraculously recreate itself. Where realistically will the 'trolley' proceed after this? Whatever choice is designated will be on narrow streets with home after home. Is there not an ethical aspect of what we are doing? Salt Lake City saw what happened to the businesses on Main Street during the Trax construction. Yes, the economy appears Kathryn Van Wagoner STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Elizabeth Bradely STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Nancy Olsen STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Mark Cook STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Carol Sperry STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Elliot Morris This is absurd. What are the destinations that are so desirable on 2100 S? Fresh Market? McDonalds? Not sure what the purpose of having a trolley car up 2100 S is. If the people in those neighborhoods wanted to live an urban area, they would have. This would bring unnecessary traffic to the area. I have not been able to read anything where there are scores of people dying to take a trolley up 2100 S so they can go to Hunan Garden or the Yogurt shop. And we haven't even talked about the children who cross 2100 S to attend Dilworth, Highland High, and Hillside. This is a poor idea, and I have yet to hear a well thought out proposal. Brent Mabey STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Cary Berg #1. I live right off Parleys Way/2100 S. The traffic and crime has increased immensely since the opening of Walmart. I watch cars get off from the Parley's exit and travel down into the neighborhoods (especially Lynwood because we don't have speed bumps like Maywood does) Most cars are trying to get to the country club and 2700 S. Others are coming from Walmart trying to find a way over to 33rd. there isnt one! The gully on 2000 E is the only way out and that leaves all our neighborhood streets with quiet families and children playing for traffic to carouse through. Crime is up! Damage is mounting! Don't add to it! It is maddening that anyone thinks we need to add another reason for people to travel through our beautiful neighborhoods. #2. There is no need for this kind of transportation, especially when there is a bus route no one uses anyway. The route has already been limited because of lack of need. #3. I cannot begin to describe the problems this would cause and the division it would create between our school community. 2100S is already a bit of a barrier between schools and the community. We strive to befriend and cross the divide as much as possible. Catherine McNally STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Extending the spur beyond 1300 East would definitely disrupt and pollute the overwhelmingly residential areas on both sides of 2100 South for the possible benefit of a handful of small businesses. Simply, the costs to many far outweigh the benefits to a few. Unknown Council - Comment Line Caller is opposed to having the streetcar route on 11th East. He believes that there was not enough public notification of the proposed routes and wants more public discussion. Paul Bradley Scott Smith STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Katy Smith STOP the proposed street car rail spur up 2100 South. The disruption, expense, and absence of any demonstrable utility should persuade you to leave the center of mass transit activity in Sugarhouse, a long established business district, but not to extend it east. The area surrounding Sugarhouse Park and east of it is a neighborhood, not a destination. Without careful thought and study, shared with all concerned sufficient in advance to allow an informed debate, your deciding to change the aesthetic, the traffic flows, and really our way of life would be bad policy, and a bad precedent. We are the community on or near 2100 South east of 1300. We vote. We pay a lot in property taxes. We have worked hard to make our neighborhood a great place to live and raise our families. Please do not create reasons for us to leave. Because the City has shown no demonstrable need or demand for these streetcars, and because any demand is overwhelmingly outweighed by the negatives, we are opposed to the proposal to extend the rail spur up 2100 South. Please reject the proposal. Council Comment Line - Message from Unknown Constituent strongly supports the 21st south streetcar route. She feels that the 11th East route is a bad place to have the streetcar and it’s a waste of energy. Council Comment Line - Unknown voice message Constituent wants the streetcar to run on 7th East or to turn it around on 2100 South and go the other direction. She believes that both No residential streets, there is already too many traffic Unknown Susan Koelliker Trax trains should not run in a residential neighborhood. I have watched the buses run up 21st South this past week and have seen less than 5 people on each bus. I am extremely concerned about our children's safety, as well. It is a huge disruption, expense, and unnecessary. Please take your time and figure out where it can be better utilized. Thanks Brett Parkin Dear Salt Lake City Council, I just signed 2100 Against's petition "Salt Lake City Council: STOP Street Car Rail Spur Up 2100 South" on Change.org. Here's why I signed: Increased traffic is a huge safety concern for our children. Sincerely, Brett Parkin Salt Lake City, Utah Nancy Warr Amy Bradford Trax should not be in mutliple school zones Keeping school areas safe and neighborhoods safe. Sharon Jorgenson There are hundreds of students going to and from Dilworth, Hillside, and Highland who walk, bike and drive on or across 2100 South. This presents a huge safety risk for our children. We choose to live in this neighborhood because it is residential, not commercial! It should remain that way. It makes more sense to have natural gas powered buses. They would be less expensive, less invasive, and have the flexibility to alter routes as needed. Even then, bus routes have decreased in this area for lack of use. It doesn't make sense to spend all that money to cement in rails for a train that we're not sure people will ride. Marge Sorensen I am against the streetcar on 2100 South. Traffic is already congested, it is a safety hazard for my kids walking to school, it won't be used and is a waste of money. Natalie Smith Katherine Allen Sam Morgan Jim Boyce WE don't need more congestion by our homes. I think there is already congestion and many bottlenecks along 21st South and don't feel like there is that much need for the street car to continue beyond Sugarhouse. it will hamper and endanger motorists & pedestrians and residents (AND we can't afford it, and I don't want to see TRAX grow into the IRS!) Safety across 2100 So and government expenditures. Many neighbors in the area will not use light rail. Jackson Stott I would like to see any study that shows how benefits would outway the negitives of having a trax line run up an already congested street through a primarily residential neighborhood. My bet is buses could do a better job moving those that use public transportation through this area, without wasting so many premium tax dollars and compromising safety. I would also love to know why there is such a rush on this issue? Sugarhouse is an amazing area, and something like this will ruin the atmosphere of this cute destination! to keep this area quiet and it's neighborhood feel Pam croft Tara Bates This will create traffic congestion not reduce traffic. 1300 East is a perfect example. this is one of the dumbest ideas ever Suzzanne Hawker Sugarhouse has been revived by many great new places and it is already so congested driving through. Safety and time are huge components to me signing this petition!! Kellee Knight Brynn Duerden Brooke Murdock I am writing you in hopes that you can answer a question before you move a head on the street car plan. Why WHY would you want to dig up our streets and add power poles etc, when a bus (perhaps a smaller model that is powered by natural gas) could do the same thing and I would think at a lot less cost. PLEASE PLEASE have a good answer to this question before you move ahead on this street car plan. It seems to me that's there's more to this than meets the eye or that common sense has been tossed out the window. We don't need any more congestion along 2100 south Dan Cimbora Development for its own sake is not welcome in my neighborhood -- especially if it negatively impacts quality of life for NO discernible benefit. Is there some secret group of people secretly clamoring for a street car to get from Sugarhouse park to Barnes and Noble??!? And for this you're going to screw up traffic on an already congested and dangers 2100 South -perhaps even 2100 E or 2300 E with their multiple schools and crosswalks??!!?!? Come on Soren and the rest of you -- quit proposing and pushing these ridiculous projects on us -- I'm growing wearing of having to remind you we like our quiet, residential neighborhood. That's why we CHOSE to live here. Quit trying to "improve" it for us. Wanna spend our money? Fix the damn potholes and water lines instead. Michael Thomas Absolutely horrible for this residential community. In 15 years, you would be taking the tracks out. Let's be sensible and not just spend tax dollars in trying to be "green". Jolene Anderson Michael Garff Craig Proctor It will turn our residential neighborhood into a commercial center. Create traffic on 2100 E. Increase crime. We live in a small community that would not really benefit from the proposed rail car sysem. Lets use money to fund other worthy projects. Kathleen Dibble There is no compelling reason to expand the train service into this residential neighborhood. The costs in tax dollars, danger to our children trying to get to school, and traffic congestion certainly outweigh any possible benefit from economic development. Traffic in the sugar house area is already so congested, adding a rail line would make even worse! Jill Anderson I live and work near 2100 South. I travel that road daily and DO NOT want to compete with the rails and DO NOT want our school children to have to cross the tracks to get to school and friends homes. Caroline Winter Liz Raybould Heidi Bennett I don't understand a significant need for the train. I hope the current bus routes provide sufficient transportation. Yet the possible risk of young children crossing in front of trains is reason enough to oppose this rail spur. don't want the street car rail spur in our neighborhood Alex Bennet There are many other city/state initiatives that are worthy of taxpayers' (local, state and federal) funds at this time. We need more quality teachers for our kids, school supplies, re-paving of existing roads that are becoming dangerous to cars and bicycles, technology infrastructure (e.g. fiber optic lines), green space improvements, new sewage and water lines (ask our neighbors on 2100 S. and 2000 E.), updates to our aging and unsightly above ground power lines, bike lane maintenance, more recycling stations, etc. While public transportation improvements can and have helped specific areas of our community, the socioeconomic and demographic make-up the Highland and Parleys neighborhoods do not justify the cost and usage return on this investment. The 2000 US Census indicates that only 5.6% (5,358 people) of Salt Lake City residents commute to work on public transportation. I would like our city councilman to show us public transportation usage numbers for buses and light rail for residents in the Highland and Parleys neighborhoods. An educated guess would be that usage for these areas is well below the city average for a number of reasons, including: proximity to This is such a poor idea to even the most casual of observers. Alex. Blair Poelman I think the WHOLE thing is a waste of money and will disrupt traffic. It's a boondoggle to get federal money, just like TRAX. Commuter service to town from my neighborhood was better before TRAX was built. This is just more of the same ill-advised grasping for dollars. Todd Nordstrom I am concerned about the traffic disruption and expense. I also don't see a "need" for mass transit to run up 2100 S. I also don't appreciate the word game of calling it a "Trolley". It's insulting. Ron Pynes Mignon Griffiths It will destroy the Neighborhood in the Sugarhouse Kathryn Connor 2100 south is already congested and narrow without a turn lane. It seems the last thing we need is a train running up the middle of what should remain a residential street. Heather Boyce Marianne Silver We walk to and from school and cross 2100 South. I would like to see them really put some thought in how to make 21st and 21st more school crossing friendly and safer for these kids to cross. I am also concerned about the people it will bring into the neighborhoods. Better bus routes is all that is needed! Melanie McMicken The expense to ride public transit has lent this a means of transportation that I wouldn't use, nor would my neighbors. We drive our kids to school because it isn't cost effective to use the bus... Therefore I can't see us using this mode either, as well as it is disruptive to our neighborhood Nicole Miller It severely affects the close neighborhood atmosphere by changing zoning Trax would not serve a purpose on 21st South past 1300 East. Why? Because it's residential. Have you driven up 21st? Is not even busy with car traffic, so what makes anyone think people need Trax to take them to, uh, the random yogurt shop or the defunct dry cleaners? The bus route takes care of that. The noise, construction, and lack of usage are not needed in the residential area of 21st South, past 1300 East. Dave Jorgensen It will be a danger to many people and kids traveling to and from school, plus there is not enough room to function on 2100 South right now with two lanes! Scott Peterson Deanna Agbor I am against having any trolley streetcar on 2100 s or 2300 E or any other place on Sugarhouse where we are raising families Hadley Saber I feel the safety and integrity of the neighborhoods are at risk if trax runs on 2100 S and 2300 East. I believe it serves a more functional benefit to the community in more central urban areas. it will make getting to school harder Safety of children going/coming home from school. Discourages walking. Steven L Hope I support your proposal for any further extensions of the subject streetcar to proceed eastward. It makes no sense to extend northward into the already walk-able neighborhood along 11th East. I own property along 11th East and would be adversely impacted by the streetcar. The width of the road would preclude existing parking and bike lanes. Further, with recent city zoning doubling the amount of streetside parking allowed for businesses, residents would be inconvenienced by loss of parking along 11th East for businesses. This would force business clientele to park in front of residential homes on the side streets adjacent to 11th East. Please be firm in your opposition to any northward extension along 11th East of the Sugarhouse Streetcar Amyu Still Sarah Eggli Jane and Rolando Gonzalez Rolando and I cannot attend tonight's meeting. We really don't care for the idea of a street car in Sugar House at all because it is already so congested there. It seems that the bus service should meet most needs there, but then we don't take public transportation there. If the street car is to be, then we vote for your plan of the east alignment and feel that 2100 S. is the best route...although that even seems to us to add to the congestion there. Do we really need a streetcar at all to provide public transportation thecard eaststock bench?? You sent a one to page document [email protected] related to Sugarhouse Street Car by mail to District 6 Residents. Thank you. We only recieved it last Friday! Less that a week before you intend to take action? The text seems clearly drafted to influence some understanding and position. We question Your reasons. 1. SLC has many Public Parks. Some larger than Sugarhosue Park. Sugarhouse park is not SLC Central Park. They have one of those. Its charter and purpose is Not a Regional Park. 2. How can a Redevelopment Area be less conjested with more development and density planned. 3. The East bench is not "terribly underserved by public transportation". Look at the UTA SL County Transporation Map - Attached. There are N-S and E-W bus routes that serve SLC East bench and are utilized, including 21S. You can expand bus services on these routes if needed without interuption and expensive infrastructure. We already have new and expanded park and ride lots to extended and canyon service routes in District 6. 4.You say the street car is a people mover. But then you promote redevelopment along the possible route. Public transporation should serve population centers not drive Maryann Martindale I am unable to attend tonight's meeting but I wanted to write to you both and add my agreement with your assessment of a eastbound 2100 south street car route. I live in the weird little notch at the top of 2100 south (south of Parley's Way, north of I-80) that is completely unserved by transit of any kind. Our area is changing, it is no longer just the stay-at-home moms but now students, younger people, singles, etc. and we are without any real option. When I first moved to the area I looked into taking the bus to work but because the stops had been eliminated along Parley's Way Blvd., I would have had to go west of 2300 East (I believe it was about halfway between 2300 and 2100 East) to get to a stop, then take three different bus connections to get to my destination. I realize not every area is going to be perfectly served by transit, but I live in the city, right off a very major road, yet it is practically impossible for me to use public transit. Also, the lack of transit in my neighborhood continues to be a frustration to my children who attend school in the area and would like the option of public transportation. If the new street car were to eventually come east, possibly as far as 2300 Glenda Cotter Hi Charlie, Thanks for your regular and informative visits to the Wasatch Hollow Community Council meetings. I’m writing to you, not as a member of the council but as a resident of the area concerned about the two routes for the third phase of the Sugar House streetcar. Although within the WHCC boundaries, I’m one of the few residents who live within Jill Love’s Fifth District boundaries. However, I want to thank you for supporting the 2100 East route and encourage you to continue that support. It’s important for the many reasons I’ve outlined below. Please let me know if there’s anything I can do to help. Thanks and best, Glenda Glenda Cotter Community resident and treasurer, Wasatch Hollow Community Council I've been following the conversation regarding the alternative routes for the third phase (2C) of the Sugar House streetcar, with the terminus being at either 1100 E and 1700 So or 2100 So and 1700 E. I'm writing to strongly support and respectfully encourage that latter route, for the following several reasons: 1. The area on Highland Drive/1100 East from 2100 South to 1700 South is already a thriving community space for small Lee Rech Dear Councilman Luke, As a resident of Sugarhouse (District 6) for over 18 years, I am emailing to request that you reject the Sugarhouse Streetcar / Trax line proposal that puts it coming up 21st South. I currently live on 15th East and Hollywood Ave (1965 South) and I can say without a doubt that developing the Trax line just two blocks from my front door would not only devalue my property (which I have spent tens of thousands of $$ remodeling), which has already been slammed by the recession/housing crisis but would also set a negative precedent of more commercial development along the 21st South corridor that is still primarily residential east of 13th East all the way up to Parley’s Way. I know that there some urban planners such as Soren Simonsen that are proponents of developing the Trax up 21st South. However, having talked to many in my neighborhood including some businesses owners, I can tell you a majority of people that I have spoken to are not okay with this Trax plan. I hope you and your City Council colleagues will consider all of the pros and cons of running a Trax line up 21st South (including the Sugarhouse Master Plan) carefully as I Paul and Fanone Parkinson Hi Charlie, We had hoped to join the hearing tonight but will not be able to make it. Please know that we support the trolley route on 2100 South and greatly appreciate you representing this position on the Council. Please feel free to reach out if there is anything else we can do to help push this route along! Best Regards, Paul Kuiken Councilman Luke, I appreciate your informative mailing about the plans for the Sugarhouse Street Car. Unfortunately I will be unable to attend the meeting tonight but wanted to share my input. As you expressed, the Sugarhouse area is already a very congested area. Where the street car line is placed will make a big impact on the surrounding area. I think it best to have the track lead up Wilmington Ave and then on to Sugarhouse Park like you said. It would grant access to the businesses along the way and also provide transportation to the park. There are many community activities that take place at the park, such as the annual fireworks celebration for Independence Day. A trax line leading there would help alleviate such congested traffic during events such as these. Having the line go down 1100 E, I think, is a bad idea. The area still has the feeling of a quiet neighborhood, which a trax line would destroy. The road itself is already a narrow two lane road. If a trax line was put through there, it would only seem possible if businesses right along the road were torn down and the homes front yard would have to be significantly reduced as well in order to widen the road for the trax and two lanes of Danny Clyne Hi Charlie, As you might guess, my wife and I most adamantly concur with our long-time friend Ms. Rech. From the get-go, we've always understood that any mass transit going up 21st South to the East, was not to be part of the Master Plan. We are already aghast by the amount of development happening in the central Sugarhouse area. It is my personal opinion that Soren Simonsen is single-handedly destroying the area. The once quaint and walkable Sugarhouse is now becoming overused and soon will be overcrowded as well. The Sugarhole fiasco was certainly foretelling of the pending doom of the area. It is sad when developers have more power with their dollars then do the residents of the city with their tax dollars and moreover, their voices. We too are regrettably unable to attend this evening's meeting. But, for now, I will close by saying this: Please, discontinue building and stop the madness. Just please stop it. Your partner in the war against graffiti, Danny Kelly White I attended the Sugarhouse Street Car Council Meeting last night and first of all let me say thank you to all of you for your service. As evidenced by the meeting, this decision is not going to make everyone happy but your job is not to make everyone happy but to do what’s in the best interest of the city and the citizens of Salt Lake. What I found disconcerting with the meeting is how the civil in civil discourse doesn’t really exist anymore. But I already knew this because this is what we found out with Yalecrest and the meeting last night had shades of Yalecrest all over it. I discovered that many people were uninformed and uneducated of the facts regarding streetcars and what a streetcar actually is and can do for a city. The tone of the evening seemed to be a selfish tone of “All About Me― , again a tone I’ve heard before. It was the rare person that actually talked about community and the greater good of all. People seemed to turn this into a battle against each other and against the city with someone certainly on the losing side. I think streetcars are good for Salt Lake and that we can all be winners in this – less air pollution, better air, less cars on the street and less congestion means GEne Berrett I was unable to attend the meeting due to illness. I am opposed to the street car anywhere that restricts traffic . Thank you Monica Mudlow Because my kids go to school on 23rd East and I don't want teh extra traffic or the possibliity of an accident with a child and this area is residential and this is ridiculous that someone wants to do something like this through a residentail area! NO!!!!! Sharon Hauri Thank you for your commitment to our neighborhood. I am commenting on the SH Streetcar as a resident and participant in ELPCO, but also have the insight of having participated in the Alternative Alisgnment study in my role working on the streetcar for South Salt Lake. I agree with the proposed LPA for the reasons outlined in that study. The city should invest in transit that has the greatest return - in ridership, reinvestment and economic activity. The extension north, which can ultimately connect to other central city neighborhoods meets these criteria. The demographics, income, diversity of housing and jobs density is there and deserving of a more complete transit network, and streetcar fits the bill. It is not however, the only possible option. BRT on 700 East or another transit option on 1100 East may also make sense. It is frustrating that this debate has been driven by emotion and not evidence in the past few weeks. I believe SLC has not fully addressed the range of considerations that will help clarify the choice to its residents. We need to have a better picture of future transportation options, future development and future neighborhood master plans for the entire Camille Alexander I am for the street car down 1100 S. It will be a great connection to the Trax on 400 S. It will provide the Westminster Students with a great alternative to get around instead of driving. Therefor reducing our air pollution that we get in the winter. This will be a wonderful for my home price. I believe that having a street will provide my neighborhood with revitalization and a wonderful opportunity to get around. I will definatly be using the street car is put down 1100 South. It was a wonderful idea. Doug Murray Please stop the madness. Let's wait to see how things go with phase 1 of the streetcar before blindly going into the next phase. Walkable neighborhoods are great. I love my neighborhood. But there is a difference between a neighborhood and an business district. A few years ago additional businesses were pushed on our neighborhood against residents' wishes. Now there is no street parking for a block around those businesses because empoyees are always parked in front of our houses. The reason there isn't more bus service in the neighborhood is because ridership was low. What rosy projections make you think that people who won't ride a bus will ride the streetcar? I like the idea of mass transit, but we don't have the numbers. People aren't going to walk 5 blocks to ride the streetcar for 4 blocks Craig Mecham It seems to me that strong consideration should be given to the professional firm of Fehr and Peers who was employed by the city to do an indepth study as to what will best serve Sugar House. They are very familar with what does work and what does not work. They have gone to great effort and expense to provide the City with a feasability study and made their recommendation based on the skills and experience doing this very kind of thing. If we ignore their recommendation it is a little like going to the Doctor who tells us we have "high blood pressure" and perscribes a medication to solve the problem, however if we don't follow his recommendation because we don't like the taste of the pill it could have fatal consequences. Such could be the case if we ignore Fehr and Peer's recommendation Also, it only make sense to provide the trolley service to where the people live. Within one block of 21st So and 11th E their are currently five apartment complexs either built or being build that average over 150 units a piece. Also the area north of 21st is primarily residential. According to the report those who are most likely to ride the trolley are those who live and shop in Sugar House. George Sumner A streetcar route along 2100 South will create development pressure on Sugarhouse Park. This will start immediately with confiscation of park property to create "turnouts" so the streetcar will not have to stop in traffic lanes. It will continue until this precious open space is fully developed. At a time when Utah politicians are willing to spend $700 million of taxpayer funds to move the prison in order to make its property available to developers, I can see no other possible future for Sugarhouse Park if the streetcar line is extended along 2100 South. Jeff Wall Do not extend the street car down 1100 East to 1700 South. for the following reasons: The road is not wide enough and the proposed route leads to no-where. It should be sent up 2100 South or 1300 East and extend to the UNiversity of Utah. Westminister Students don't commute to the campus, University of Utah Students do from across the valley. This proposed route solves no traffic issues. The neighborhoods cannot handle any additional short cut traffic driving at freeway speeds. People can walk to 2100 we already do.Jorgensen, I Dear Mr.south, Luke, like My name is Doug Doug Jorgensen have lived in the neighborhood for 30 years and am a teacher at Highland High School. Please put this as another one of your constituents who is opposed to the Sugarhouse trolley coming up 2100 South. For the record I am also against it going along 1100 East. Though to many it initially seems like a romantic thought to have a train going to the east side, I believe that it will actually have a negative impact on our neighborhood. Here are my concerns: • Safety of students walking or biking to school. There are many Dilworth, Hillside and Highland students who walk to school. I am especially concerned about the students who have to cross 2100 South to get to and from Dilworth and Hillside. • Safety of young teenage drivers in a neighborhood with a train. Teenagers are not likely to take a train to school. Imagine teenage drivers driving down 2100 South on the new one lane each way road. Behind a train? On garbage day? Please, this idea is not safe for my students. • Increased traffic on side streets. So people will avoid 2100 South, where will they go? They will detour down the side streets. • Reduced lanes for cars Sharon Jorgensen To Whom It May Concern; I have lived east of 1900 East on about 1900 South for 30 years. I have a husband and have raised four boys in this neighborhood. We moved here because it's residential, not commerical or full of commuter traffic, trains, or buses. There is no need for more public transportation east of 1300 East than the buses we already have, otherwise UTA would not have decreased the number of routes in our area. The only east side traffic problem is Foothill Dr. from I-215 to the University. Here are my thoughts on why we should not have the 2100 South trolley/train: • Safety of students walking or biking to school. There are many Dilworth, Hillside and Highland students who walk to school. We are especially concerned about the students who have to cross 2100 South to get to and from Dilworth and Hillside and even Highland. Add a train to this main school bus route and it would be even more dangerous. • Safety of young teenage drivers in a neighborhood with a train. Teenagers are not likely to get up a little earlier to walk 3 or 4 blocks to wait and take a train to school when they could walk another few blocks for free and be on time. Cindy Nordstrom Council Luke and Simonsen, The last thing our community needs is a “Trolley― , just like we didn’t need Walmart on Parsleys Way. I am not sure if you are listening to your community or other special interests groups, but I know you are not listening to our neighborhood or to me. All you have to do is spend one morning on 21st East/South or 23rd east to see that there is enough traffic to begin with. We certainly don’t need to have a trax train (disguised as a “Trolley― ) to contend with. The danger to our children is beyond describable....what are you thinking! We do not need this and do not want it. You are voted in office by your neighbors and community and are there to represent our views. Plain and simple, we do not want this “Trolley― ! Cindy Nordstrom Dave Keith Jorgensen My Name is Dave Jorgensen and I am a Junior at Highland High School. I have many concerns about having this proposed cable car going up 2100 South in Sugarhouse but I am very aware that you all are very busy people and do not have the time to read much so I will try so keep this short. Next year I am a Student Body Officer for Highland and my main concern about this proposal is the effect it will have on the 1,546 students that are currently enrolled at Highland and the future students of next year at Highland. Here are my main points and concerns, please take the time to read them all. 1. Many students who travel from all over the city to attend Highland already have free busing to school, why would they pay to use trax? I wouldn't wait five to ten minutes for a train when I could walk and be on time. 2. There is a number of students who walk to school every single day. Adding this rail line in will increase the chances of a injury to a student and possible even death. There are more and more stories in the news about accidents involving Trax Trains than ever before! I do not want my friends to get hurt! 3. Finally this is my most important point, I do not know if you have Donald Gaillard Sugar House Trolley?? STOP LOOK AND LISTEN STOP • STOP wasting money trying to fix something which is not broken. UTA already has a bus system that adequately serves 21st South. Proposing that the data of ridership continues East beyond 17th East on 21st South is a wild stretch of the imagination. Seldom, do we who live on 21st South, observe more than a handful of riders. Said ridership stops during the summer and when school is not in session. There is already a bus #21 that goes to the University of Utah and it is seldom at capacity. UTA busses already have it covered. If you are looking at the GREEN ENVIRMENTAL ASPECT, there have already been proposals to retrofit busses with natural gas and electrical conversions. This seems much more feasible and economical. Busses are much more quiet and do not disrupt the well-established residential neighborhoods? • STOP promising us one thing then performing a bait and switch, saying we will have a quaint little “trolley― , and then pushing a retrofitted Trax train and Trax rails going into Sugarhouse is quite different than what was proposed. • Please STOP and inform those Scott Sorensen Coucilmen Luke and Simonson As a resident of Sugar House, I am writing to express my adamant opposition to an extension of trax/trolley/streetcar in any way shape or form up 2100 South It would bring safety concerns for our children who walk to school, incredible litigation costs, traffic diversions into neighborhood streets and a significant and ongoing tax burden at a time when SLC seems to be banging the tin cup for more money for the SLC budget as well in addition to significant ongoing investments downtown It is prudent for you to stop and consider carefully. Put together a master plan that is fully vetted and do not start down a path that is not thought out, not economically viable and one that simply rewards your financial backers and not your constituents. Scott Sorensen Bernice Poelman Enough!!! Please vote against the street car line being extended up 21st south!!! 21st south is difficult as it is with its narrow 4 lanes. There is no need for the line up in this residential neighborhood. The bus system is sufficient. The mayor just said that we are at the end of our "no tax raises" years so taxes will be going up. Why are we talking about a needless rail system in light of that message. Bernice Poelman Larry Thorpe Charlie, I have attached a copy of my previous email for ease of reference: It appears that I was ill-informed as to who or whom is wanting to construct the Trolley line. It is not UTA/TRAX, but rather our own City Council of Salt Lake City. Apparently they believe that Salt Lake City is not being serviced with adequate transit opportunities. They believe that this lack of service requires their implementing or construction of Salt Lake City's own transit system. However, not having the expertise to operate such a project/system, the city would contract an "outside third party", namely UTA, to operate the system. Ridiculous. If Salt Lake City wants to make better transit arrangements for the citizens on the east bench and they are worried that we are declining in transportation services on the east side, why don't they simply make a longterm deal with UTA/TRAX to subsidize and/or increase the current system and by charging east side residents a lessor fee for ridership privileges. They could 1) open more routes, 2) charge lessor fees and 3) use the existing UTA/TRAX bus system currently in place. We don't need more busses and some trolley cars to encourage ridership, or Mike De La Mare To: Trolley people, No one has identified this as a need. It almost seems like you are trying to push the idea without ever discussing the concerns. In both the mailing we received you did not have concerns addressed in a meaningful way. It was presented as “you have options―none of which stated any kind of impact on surrounding neighborhoods, it was choose plan A,B or C. I am fine with the “Trolley―going into Sugarhouse shopping area as first designed, that is a commercial shopping area that is a destination for many. To extend it further would not be money well spent, it creates congestion, creates a different atmosphere of “big city―which none of us want. We enjoy and appreciate our fairly quiet neighborhoods where traffic flows are manageable and bus service is adequate. • Safety of students walking or biking to school. There are many Dilworth, Hillside, Beacon Heights, and Highland students who walk to school. We are especially concerned about the students who have to cross 2100 South to get to and from Dilworth and Hillside. • Safety of young teenage drivers in a neighborhood with a train. Teenagers are not likely to take a train to school. Jill Anderson Please do everything in your power to keep the trolley off 2100 South. It is a family neighborhood (not a business district) with children crossing it every day and inexperienced high schoolers driving on it to get to Highland. There is not point to bring it east of Sugarhouse, except to disrupt our neighborhood. More cars will be going on the side streets to avoid the trolley which means more danger to our kids. PLEASE stop the trolley from going east on 2100 South!! Thanks for your consideration of those who will be most impacted by this decision! Jill Anderson JW Clemens Councilman Charlie Luke--- It is obvious Mayor Becker does not live in Sugar House or frequent the place much. My household of 7 voting adults say NO to the 11th East proposal for installing a trolley! Unfortunately, the Mayor will probably also propose more biking lanes as well---bad idea. The street is already well used. Squeezing more biking lanes in 11th East is a BAD idea. We see what happened to the 15th East Avenue and the mess that has occurred. Our family uses15th East on a regular basis; we note that there aren't very many biking people using the lanes throughout the day that have inconvenienced those who live there and shop in the area. Keep up the good work. Amy Rigby We live on wilmington, and feel that the street car would divert traffic from 2100 South to Wilmington (the next street south parallel to 2100 S.) and make that a busier street and more dangerous to my family Mike Rice My wife walks to Sugar House park daily from our house and if this line is put in she will have to negotiate it every day. Walley Jarman Luke, Wally Jarman, owner of Finn's Restaurant (1700 South 1100 East) called to say he fully supports the trolley running down 1100 East. He believes a majority of businesses would like to see the trolley run down for 1100 east (contrary to the outspoken opposition). Virginia Hylton After watching and reading the public comments and considering the long term and terminus potential, I am in favor of extending the streetcar east on 2100 South. Jamie Searle we live in a residential area. we do not want the trolley, the noise, and all the additional people that would come with the trolley. in this area i dont see a reason to have the trolley come up to 23rd east. we have great bus service and it is pretty peaceful most of the time. ours is a quiet neighborhood. and we would like it toConcern: stay thatWe way. To Whom It May have lived in Don and Kris Bell the Foothill/Sugar House area for nearly 35 years. I firmly believe that the Phase Two route for the transit trolley should follow 2100 South Eastbound to the Highland High school/Sugar House park area. This would allow "younger" citizens to become familiar mass-type transit instead of assuming a car is always required to get around our city. It would also allow many citizens, from outside the boundaries of our city, to access the trolley from the Light Rail from South and Southwest areas of the County. The Sugar House park is well known and many citizens come from all over to participate at flower shows, athletic events, walk-a-thons, 5k races and of course the yearly fireworks in July. With the completion of the "trail system" from the Parley's Canyon area, many hikers and bike riders will use the park. All of these people will use the trolley if it ends at the park / Highland High school. All of the businesses in the 2100 South between 1100 East and 1300 East will benefit from these riders. Overall, this eastern route is by far the better choice than the alternate route which will end at 1700 South and 1100 East. Even the Westminster College students Mike Glover Debra Hogan lives on 1100th east & the street car will add to the problem of congestion and will not help it, and he is agains the 1100 east route. the rail does not need to come past 1300 east. Peggy Anderson Pam Peterson Melissa Weber Jessica Crouch Karen Lao Elisa Evans Mackenzie Martin raquel Ramon Tina Johnson Lives on 1100 east its 6:30 and cars are backed up to 2100 south north to the end of the post office. Please support the citiizens, go up 2100 east lots less space, or go up Wilmington. I own Central Book Exchange and I am against the 11th East route due to construction will hurt my business. against 11th E Streetcar due to the streetcar forcing traffic onto 9th east and causing congestion. Also, it will drive residential traffic to 10th East which would be bad for the residential area. against the streetcar on 11th. in support of the 21st S route to serve Sugar House Park Elisa Evans opposed to streetcar on 11th East because it will impact her ability to shop at local businesses. Mackenzie Martin against the 11th East Streetcar because everyone in the area is against it. Raquel Ramon is against the 11th East Streetcar. Thankful for the public hearing, and thankful for you taking time to listen to everyone at the public hearing and everyone calling you. Rebecca Seiger Tina Johnson opposed to streetcar on 11th Lee Chase is against the streetcar on 11th. She will tell all the people who live at your house about your choice in voting for this streetcar. Sandy Bonair is opposed to streetcar on 11th East. Rebecca Seiger is against the streetcar on 11th because it is the same as a trax train and will cause problems due to construction and congestion. Rulond Aglesian Rulond Aglesian is against the streetcar on 11th east. Please consider an alternative. Lee Chase Sandy Bonair Brook Elsworth Mrs. Covey George Chapman Gail Murdock Lori Layton Mickey Jim Mike Glover Brook Elsworth is against the streetcar on 11th. It will crush the small feel of the Sugar House area. Mrs. Covey is very, very against the 11th East Streetcar due to it causing congestion. She feels busses would be better. These expensive things are not the best solution. George Chapman is against the 11th east Streetcar due to it causing increased congestion. Gail Murdock expressing her opposition to the streetcar on 11th. Lori Layton, of Boxing is for Girls. She wants you to vote against the street car on 11th. She said she is opposed to the streetcar on 11th. Expect a lot of these today. The boxing is for girls group has your picture and number on a poster that is encouraging people to call you with their opposition to the streetcar. He wants to let you know he is opposed to the streetcar on 11th. He also tried to make a clever reference to the movie "A Streetcar Named Desire," but he stuttered during it and it lost its effect. Mike Glover lives on 1100 East. He said there is a congestion problem on 1100 East and he doesn’t believe the trolley will alleviate the problem. He thinks it will only make it worse. Melanie Hawks Dan Kaelberer Bruce Jensen I am writing to voice my opposition for the proposed 11th East streetcar extension. This route makes no sense to me; I understand the idea of 17th South/Westminster as a sort of "anchor" destination, but there are already plenty of non-car transportation options for that stretch of road--the 213 bus, bike lanes, and sidewalks, for instance. It is only about a 10 minute walk from 21st South to 17th East; it's probably faster to walk than to wait for the next streetcar! That stretch of road is already narrow and congested and the streetcar will not change that; people who will use the streetcar are not the residents who need to drive through that area to get from A to B, or shoppers who are driving from central city to reach the Barnes & Noble, Petco, etc. I can't imagine how a streetcar on 11th would reduce car traffic in any way. The construction of the line will seriously harm the small, local businesses north of 21st South and create major traffic flow problems, forcing drivers to try to wend their way around on the quiet residential streets between 11th & 13th/11th & 9th. I think residents, small business owners, and anyone who relies on 11th East as a route through Sugarhouse will suffer if this I grew up in the area and my parents still live there. The neighborhood has a special charm that would be disrupted with rail systems and extra traffic. Let's try to preserve and protect the neighborhoods in this area. Ron Pynes stated it well is his comment. The congestion the line would create is a huge negative Carol A Tripp Supports the 2100 South streetcar alignment. It is just as close to Westminster as the 1100 East alignment. There is no mass transit in the Highland Park area -one bus runs along 1700 East every two hours. The 2100 South alignment would be beneficial to Highland High students and businesses. Please vote for the 2100 South option. Carol A. Tripp Supports the 2100 South streetcar alignment. It is just as close to Westminster as the 1100 East alignment. There is no mass transit in the Highland Park area -one bus runs along 1700 East every two hours. The 2100 South alignment would be beneficial to Highland High students and businesses. Please vote for the 2100 South option. Marsha Gilford Dear Council Member Lamalfa, Smith’s owns and operates a very popular convenience store with fuel at 1974 South 1100 East. Because of this C store, we oppose the trolley line being diverted up 1100 East for the following reasons: • Customers frequently turn left as they go Northbound on 100 East to t urn into our location. To limit their access would impede traffic and create only one access point from the residential street that is north of our lot. • Our fuel deliveries are made by large tanker trucks that require easy and wide access in and out of the 1100 East. If that is prohibited, we would not be able to fill our underground tanks. Any transportation modifications possible would be forced to come in from 900 East or 2100 South and weave through residential areas to gain access to the C store. We understand this is a decision requiring consideration of many viewpoints. But having a trolley line impede access to our store and fuel station would be a very serious issue for us at Smith’s. Please support the option to run the trolley along another route. Marsha Gilford Vice Preisdent Public Affairs Smith's Food & Drug Stores 1550 S Redwood Rd SLC, Utah 84104 Scott Mayeda Mr. LaMalfa, My family lives on 2200 East just south of 2100 south. We have two young children that attend Dilworth Elementary (just north of 2100 South) and cross 2100 South every school day. I’m very concerned about their safety if the streetcar is routed up 2100 South. I understand and agree with the need for public transportation. However, I do not see the benefits of a small streetcar that seems to have no master plan and no major destination point. TRAX has turned out to be a great success. It seems to me that its success stems from getting people out of their cars and into public transportation to travel to major destinations such as the airport, downtown Salt Lake, and the University of Utah. I don’t see any major destination point with the streetcar (other than possibly Westminster College). With all due respect to Sugarhouse Park, Walmart, or Foothill Village, I just don’t see those as major destinations for the streetcar that would ultimately produce the benefits that public transportation can and should provide. For my family, the safety risks of the streetcar travelling up 2100 South where hundreds of children cross to go to both Robert Argenbright I support the alternative favored by the mayor and the study--up 1100 E. Westminster will be a significant trip generator. In the future, the line can serve 9th & 9th and continue on to the U. The U. and Sugar House have very strong connections, thanks to all the prof's and students who live in S.H. Much the same can be said for the U. and 9th and 9th. It's important to build the line where it will be used. I disagree with Charlie Luke--Sugar House Park is unlikely to be a significant trip generator, because people want to bring dogs, sleds, picnic stuff, etc. From there it's a long way to 21/21, which seems a strongly car-oriented area, much less likely to use the street car than Sugar House, the Westminster area, or 9th/9th--not to mention the U. The small-business owners along 11th are afraid of disruption and that's understandable. But the disruption will be temporary and for the sake of the city as a whole. Suzanne Middleton I think that the streetcar should go up to Sugar House Park and then north on 1300 E. The road is wider and I feel that it would provide an opportunity for people who frequent the park and still be able to provide access to Westminster. Mark Morris My name is Mark Morris, and I have lived in District 7 for over 26 years. This is my second comment to you on this issue, but in the few days since I sent to you my hurriedly assembled thoughts on the prospect of street cars going north or east from the Sugarhouse terminus, and after attending the Sugarhouse Community Council meeting last night where the ratio of people weighing in on expanding street cars appeared to be 10-1 against, I have these additional thoughts: • NEED – First, has anyone explained what the rush is? 1100 East and 2100 South aren’t going anywhere. I’m not aware of any large influxes of people or high-density housing going into the area. Putting in rail will be no harder later than it is now. Are we trying to grab money because it may not be available later? Does the prospect of federal funding expire? Is that what’s driving the rush? Are we that desperate to grab some free money that we’ll do so recklessly? Some say we need this, because the “City―is growing and our neighborhoods are only going to get more dense, by going up. I imagine there are areas of the City where that may be true, but I can’t imagine it Zack Phifer I support putting a street car on 1100 East. I've heard the arguments against it and they really don't make sense to me. Shelly Gardner Andrew Theurer I'm concerned about safety on 2100 s. Its already congested and narrowing the street might add to this. Also the children in my neighborhood have to cross 2100 to attend elementary and middle school. The train could make this more dangerous. I would like to see how this would be implemented. If it would loop into the university? What would've true benefits be? If mass transit expansion is really necessary, buses are a less costly and more flexible alternative. Becky Smith I have lived in this area for almost 50 years. Our children have attended neighorhood schools and I still visit the area often. A street car rail line is not conducive to a neighborhood such as this. Safety would be a huge issue with all the foot traffic. Traffic flow would be disrupted. There is not sufficient space without eliminating existing structures. It just doesn't make sense, and no one is giving a reasonable argument for it or backing it up with any numbers or definite plans. Apparently there was a small protest on Gary Blake and Karen WInslow-Blake 1100 East yesterday against a possible streetcar extension along that street. We're concerned that this protest might give the impression that most residents of the area are against such an alignment. In fact, we believe the opposite is true. We own a home near the proposed 1100 East line, and we endorse the 1100 East alignment. In fact, every neighbor we've talked to would like to see the line come north to 1700 South. We can see benefits to the other two options, but we strongly believe the 1100 East option-running north to 1700 South--would be by far the best choice. 1100 East is looking tired along that stretch, and the streetcar would definitely help in that respect. More importantly, it would attract ridership from Westminster College. Anything that would alleviate traffic and parking problems around the college would be wonderful, and the other two options just can't offer that kind of benefit. It's also nice to think that this would bring a streetcar within two blocks of the original end-of-line in the Perkins Addition. This was the first "streetcar suburb" in the city, and one of the first in the country. As I understand it, the line ended at Joan Ishimatsu I'd like to give my two cents on the 1100 E streetcar. I live down there and I don't think it's a good idea. I rahter see it if they can talk UTA in making a loop with a bus, go over to Mclleland street and then pick up the students to go on 1100 E. There is no room over Dear here. Councilperson Love, I write to voice Mark and Ashely Kittrell mine, and my wife's, support for the Sugar House Streetcar line to run along 1100 East. We both reside in your district. We believe this to be the best route for the Sugar House neighborhood and economic development. Studies show that the greatest ridership will occur along that proposed route. With increased ridership, you will see increased dollars to be spent on local businesses. Furthermore, this represents a wonderful way to connect to vital neighborhoods in the city -- the 9th & 9th area with the Sugar House area. The 2100 South option concerns me because it would run along the Sugar House Park's northern edge. Streetcars are implemented as a means for economic development. If the route ran along that edge of the Park, I fear you would see economic development pressure for the crown jewel of our local park system. Coincidentally, I serve on the Sugar House Park Authority, and we are concerned about that development as well. The Authority, in a written letter to Mayor Becker, expressed that it does not prefer the 2100 South route. I even think a 2100 South route would impede traffic flow on a major artery Jesse Knight Hi Jill, You know me from my membership on the ELPCO community council. Our council has not yet arrived at a consensus opinion on the streetcar, but I have, personally. I think eleventh east makes sense and that’s where the streetcar should go. East Benchers have enough amenities, and the Westminster, U of U neighborhoods would use the streetcar option more, I believe. Plus, it’s funkiness matches the tone and timbre of the Sugarhouse 11th east neighborhood ambience. I don’t think the protesters are aware of how beneficial the streetcar would be for their neighborhoods. Ed Butterfield needs to get out there more and do some more “convincin.―Better yet, Mayor Becker himself could persuade this vocal minority of benefits of a streetcar in the neighborhood. Meanwhile, for what it’s worth, add my voice to those who favor the 11th east option. Thank you for all you do for we SLC citizens, I am proud to live in the best City in Utah. I don't want my kids to cross the tracks on their way to elementary school. To Dangerous! Because it will be going right past my house and people in my ward are going to have to lose some of their property. Jans B. Wager No on 11th East Streetcar in Sugarhouse. Ellen Parish Michael Hansen East Central Community Coucnil Jans Wager Amber Mettler Dear Mayor, Jill, Luke, all other members of the City Council, Robin, and staff; After the City Council public hearing on April 23, 2013, we took an additional poll of the ECC members who are enrolled as part of our electronic Google system. Our current enrollment is 2117. The outcome was 618 responded and 608 sustained the previous ECC position or 1100 East from 2100 South to 900 South, west on 900 South to 900 East, north on 900 East to the 400 Trax station. Dissenting comments were the following: Of the 618, 10 were in favor of east on 2100 South Additional comments or questions were: 1. Why don’t we just leave the 209 bus on 900 East. It works well. 2. Consider a new route, west on 2100 South and make a Sugar House loop 3. Concern for the welfare of the small businesses located on 1100 East 4. Concern about rezoning on 1100 East 5. Concern about crime that transit brings In behalf of the Executive Board and General Membership Esther Hunter & Gary Felt Chairs East Central Community Council I am a resident of Sugarhouse. I live just off off 11th East on Sherman Avenue. I oppose the streetcar on what is currently a lovely, quiet street with many thriving small businesses. I think the business, the neighborhood, and the property values would suffer with the streetcar. I just wanted to write briefly to express my strong support for the 1100 E streetcar route. All, I am writing to strongly recommend a "no" vote on the current proposal to extend the Sugarhouse streetcar north on 1100 E. I'm in agreement with many others who feel that such a plan is very ill-advised due to increased congestion and the overwhelming opposition by those most affected including businesses and residents close to the street. I attended early meetings on the Sugarhouse plan, and any mention of extending the route north or otherwise was presented in terms of the distant future. As such, I was very troubled that it appears a decision has already been made. I was also very unimpressed by the logic that was presented in favor of the 1100 E. plan (more potential for ridership...compared to what, economic development for whom at the expense of the residents?). In this situation, no action would be much better than the wrong action. Please listen to the voice of the people on this one. Sunk costs associated with a feasibility study should not be a driver in any such decision. Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 1 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Introduction Where would you like to see the Sugar House Streetcar go? It’s almost time to decide the route the Sugar House Streetcar will take and the Salt Lake City Council wants to know where you think it should go. There’s already a streetcar line under construction that will connect South Salt Lake and Sugar House, but the project ends at McClelland Street near Fairmont Park. The question is where the line should extend from there. After completing an extensive study and talking with residents and business owners who live in the Sugar House area, Mayor Becker’s Administration has proposed a possible route. The recommendation is that the line extend east from the current tracks to Highland Drive, then north to the Sugar House Monument at 2100 South Street. Tracks would then be built north along 1100 East Street to 1700 South Street. But the study includes other options, including building a streetcar line east on 2100 South to 1700 East Street near Highland High School. Keep in mind that there’s the potential for the City to change zoning regulations to allow for larger residential and commercial buildings along the streets if the line runs either north along 1100 East Street or east along 2100 South. Whichever way it goes, the line will become part of a streetcar network linking the entire city to neighborhoods and the regional light-rail system. So where do you think it should? And what do you think about the potential for larger residential and commercial buildings in certain areas? The City County wants to hear from you. Click here to read the Mayor’s report, including the Mayor’s recommendation and alternatives http://www.slccouncil.com/agendas/2013Agendas/Mar19/031913A4.pdf All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 2 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM, this forum had: Attendees: 888 Participants: 178 Hours of Public Comment: 8.9 178 participants posted comments All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 3 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Name not shown in District 5 May 6, 2013, 11:12 AM Please do not put the street car on 1100 E. It is crowded enough as it is! I feel it would be much more useful if it were be extended to Sugar House park. Ricklen Nobis in District 3 May 6, 2013, 10:23 AM "We’re put in a tough position," said Council Chairman Kyle LaMalfa, "because we all believe those impacted by the decision have a right to contribute in a meaningful way." -SL Trib, 5/6/13 Let's hope that the members of the Salt Lake City Council remain aware of their mandate as Councilman LaMalfa does. And let's hope he and other Council Members respond appropriately to the uproar over the proposed 11th East streetcar line. Sometimes I think Council Person Remington-Love is a bit over-arrogant and out of touch with the majority of her constituents. I wish I lived in the district she represents. I'd actively campaign with my neighbors to unseat her in the next elections. Thank you-- Rick Nobis Name not shown in District 6 May 6, 2013, 8:39 AM Provo is getting Google Fiber. Sugarhouse is getting ... a trolley? Trolleys are cute and there is a place for cute in our future. But cute shouldn't cause us to increase taxes. A trolley that only extends from the TRAX line to sugarhouse is not a "transportation alternative". Extending the trolley line to 1700 South on 1100 East will primarily only benefit Westminster College. A trolley built on 1100 East, a narrow road, will be slow create dangerous traffic conditions and obstruct motor vehicle and bike traffic. If Westminster College wants a trolley extension to their campus, let Westminster College pay for it and then put it on 1200 East or 1250 East where it will be out of the way of through traffic and people patronizing 1100 East businesses. Also, I think I have read that the trolley has already cost $35 million. UTA bus Route 209 already provides service every 15 or 20 minutes on 1100 East and costs the taxpayers nothing. Are we paying a truckload of additional money in taxes to move backward (in a cute way) or forward? Maybe we have already bought enough "cute" and should end the trolley at downtown sugarhouse? Moving the trolley East seems like a much better option if we must spend money and build it somewhere. I'm not crazy about any of the 2100 South road surface being lost to the trolley, but if the trolley could go through the Northern edge of Sugarhouse park perhaps not much would have to be sacrificed in terms of giving up existing roadway. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 4 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I grew up in San Francisco in a house adjacent to the "N Judah" Streetcar line, so I have had quite a bit of exposure to and experience with streetcars. They were ugly, noisy, and attracted a disproportionate amount of crime to the streets which flanked them. I moved to Salt Lake to get away from the urban environment and from the clatter and visual pollution of the streetcars. I, like most of my neighbors and the residents I have talked to, do not want Sugarhouse (nor Salt Lake in general for that matter) turned into an ultra-urban area, nor we do not want a streetcar to run through our residential neighborhoods. Salt Lake City is not Portland or San Francisco, nor do we want it to be. I think the Sugarhouse Streetcar is a horribly bad idea because there is really no logical, practical destination, and I fear it would end up becoming the "Streetcar To Nowhere". If the grant money absolutely must be spent, why not build a line people would actually USE--perhaps down to St Mark's hospital, or to Fashion Place Shopping center. The way it is planned now, who would ride it? Please do not foist a white elephant project such as the Sugarhouse Streetcar on citizens who do not want it, will not ride it, but will ultimately end up making the sacrifices for it and paying for it both financially, when lack of ridership makes it unable to sustain itself. and in aggravation. Sincerely, Lisa G. Eisenberg Downington Avenue Salt Lake City Vicki Rathunde in District 7 May 5, 2013, 6:56 PM My home of 21 years is on the corner of 1100 E and Garfield Avenue. Imagine the emotional impact when I opened one of your studies and saw a BIG BLACK CIRCLE on my front lawn. A proposed stop on my front yard could mean that 120 students (60 seated and another 60 standing) could be getting off of the streetcar while another 120 could be waiting to get on. Imagine 120 students and faculty members as they march up Garfield Avenue, through a residential neighborhood. They would have to cross a very dangerous blind curve without a crosswalk (i.e., 1200 E. and Garfield). Is the city going to keep my corner clean and safe? Is the city going to guarantee my children and my grandchildren that the value of our investment will not drop considerably? Is the city going to guarantee that if an emergency vehicle, be it an ambulance or fire truck, needed to come to my house, that it would not be delayed by even one second? Is the city going to reimburse my family the $1800 that we paid because the city deemed that our sidewalks needed to be re-done. You have chosen to pretend that 1100 East is made up of a bunch of businesses who will be grateful for your insight. This is my HOME. I do not want to look out of my 90 year old leaded glass front door All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 5 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? and see a nightmare. You are directly impacting my life and my future. Barry Makarewicz in District 6 May 5, 2013, 5:42 PM I am writing to voice my opposition for extending the Sugarhouse Streetcar line beyond McClelland Street. I believe both the 1100 E and 2100 S proposals are unnecessary, ill conceived boondoggles. Why is any extension necessary? Just because "federal grant money" might pay for some of it does not make it a good idea. The present termination point at McClelland and Sugarmont puts riders right in the heart of Sugarhouse and just a few blocks walk to shopping, the Park, Post Office, liquor store, movie theaters and resturants. Do we need to provide motorized transportation right to the entrance of ever building in the area? Can people not walk a few block any more? Keep in mind that extention of the streetcar will require the relocation and rebuilding of a fire station and the certain major disruption of traffic in an already congested area for many months. There is also an undeniable danger to bicyclists from riding alongside the tracks. More is not always better. These proposals have not been thoroughly vetted and debated. I do not believe the Mayor and members of the Council have the best interests of Sugarhouse in mind with these proposed streetcar extentions. Just because you can does not mean you should. Sincerely, Barry Makarewicz Name not shown in District 6 May 5, 2013, 10:54 AM My wife and I are long-term residents of District 6 and are strongly opposed to the 2100 South Streetcar extension. Not only will it increase our property taxes, it will devalue our and the rest of the homes throughout the areas bordering this route. This idiotic idea appears to be the brainchild of the quixotic District 7 representative Soren Simonsen, and, who we now find is his willing sidekick, our own District 6 representative for whom we had such high hopes, now shattered, Charlie Luke. We have no desire for further business/commercial development along that path, nor do we support the wild idea that a 2100 South streetcar will assist a now failing 2100/2100 neighborhood business area--it is overkill to suggest it, and disruptive to what is now a beautiful residential area complimented by a wonderful high school--Highland and park--Sugar House, and dotted with 'small business areas,' that serve local residents. Those small businesses should look for more creative and less disruptive measures to improve their business and attract more customers from the surrounding area--not bring in customers from other areas via a streetcar. Lastly, we do not want to see the congestion that a 2100 South streetcar will cause to the already congested 2100 South 1300 East intersection. Moreover, we support the viewpoints of fellow contributors who have seen streetcars fail in other areas, and thus we would like to prevent that here. We support the initial streetcar path from South Salt Lake to Sugar House and the development that is anticipated, but beyond that, more study is needed. We are more inclined to support the 1100 East extension, since, if the goal is to make Sugar House more walkable, with fewer vehicles, it is a more reasonable route. Although businesses along 1100 East will be temporarily inconvenienced, a streetcar will ultimately allow easy on and off access for riders who want to shop along there as well as Westminster students who are commuting All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 6 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? from other areas. However, we concur with another contributor, that the streetcars should not be TRAX vehicles, but 'trolley cars' with a 'retro' look that will help to attract more riders and keep TRAX and the streetcar separate in the minds of potential users, many of whom remain confused with all of the ‘fast moving’ information and equally speedy decision-making processes. Bindy Crafts in District 5 May 5, 2013, 10:02 AM I am shocked and amazed that the community around the proposed 1100 east extension would be opposed to any kind of mass transit expansion. This is exactly the type of progressive urban planning the Sugarhouse area is suppose to be about. The fact that businesses in the area are so short sighted and don't see the long view of the community beyond their own short term bottom line is grossly negligent. This transit would only bring more business to their doors, and without all the congestion of cars and parking problems. If the people of Sugarhouse don't support this, your only handing over more money and future business investment to the 21st south corridor. It could cause people to bypass the downtown Sugarhouse area in favor of businesses, shops, and eateries that the line will service elsewhere. People who complain this is somehow only going to service Westminster students, don't apparently know what they come with....money! Money to spend on eating food, drinking coffee and beer, and time to kill shopping in stores. Westminster students, like a lot of the Sugarhouse population, are young and with money to spend. The 1100 east route makes sense, for the future of Sugarhouse and for the business community. Cynthia Phillips in District 6 May 5, 2013, 7:48 AM I was shocked when I learned the plan was to extend north along 1100 E. Westminster will already have access to the line without extending in that direction, and 1100 E is walkable now without a streetcar. The streetcar should extend east along 2100 S in the direction is is already going. This would provide access to Sugarhouse park and Highland High School, with the possibility to extend access to the Foothill area, which is all cars right now. The East bench needs public transportation to the Sugarhouse area and from there to the downtown. Aline on 2100 E could even open up access to Park City at some point, which is sorely needed, particularly for the people who work there. Name not shown in District 6 May 4, 2013, 10:35 PM Please do not extend the street car past the current plans. You are bringing non residents into my neighborhood. I have young children and I do not want to worry about letting my children play in our yard because someone caught trax and than the street car and is walking through my neighborhood and sees my children or myself. Neither of the streets can handle the lines and will only increase traffic on the other streets which are already over crowded. While there may be benefits to the street car there is no added benefit to extending it past its current location. Please remember these are our homes and our families that you are interfering with, not businesses. Any student can easily walk the few blocks to Westminster and be fine. Please don't ruin our neighborhood and our Sugarhouse. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 7 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Dear Council Members, I am a resident of Sugarhouse in the 21st and 21st area. I will also have 2 children attending Highland High next year, and one other child who will attend Highland in 2019. For these reasons, I have sincere interest in the proposed street car route. I strongly oppose the 1100 E Northbound route for two reasons: It seems to be in the interest of only a private college (Westminster) and therefore a conflict for tax-payers; and secondly, there is absolutely no need or reason for the streetcar to travel this direction. The car would not even get Westminster students closer than it would if it stopped on 13th and 21st anyway, and the businesses on 21st need the services. I would love to see the streetcar service Sugar House Park some day, as well as Highland High and possibly Parley's way. The citizens living Eastward of the proposed streetcar are in serious need of transportation Westward to the the park and businesses such as The Commons, Shopko, the Cinemark dollar theatres, etc. Buses have proven to be tricky for people who work at the restaurants in Sugarhouse, as most of the buses quit running by 10 pm, if not 8 pm. When my son worked at Costa Vida (1050 E 2100 S), taking a bus was not an option b/c he generally finished closing around 10:15 pm. Actually, I don't even know how employees working in the area, who don't have cars, even get to and from work! That's my bit. Please bring the streetcar Eastward! Very Truly Yours, Karen Bridge Name not shown in District 7 May 3, 2013, 3:03 PM I am opposed to the 1100 E. street car alignment. There is already too much congestion and when Sugar Crossing comes on line it is only going to be worse than it already is. I also don't know if there is enough demand for the street car if it goes east up 2100 S. to Sugarhouse Park and beyond. I agree with those that are asking the City Council to take a step back. Develop a real master plan, wait and see what happens when Sugar Crossing comes on line (I believe there should have been a traffic master plan done for this before they agreed to move forward with the project) and whether traffic is even worse, what the parking situation is, etc. Moving forward hastily to apply for grant funding is not a good idea. There will be other funding opportunities later. What about using trolley buses? I used to work for a resort town in Colorado and we were looking at using these to achieve a similar purpose. No disrubtion of businesses to lay tracks, still quaint, still functional and much smaller than current UTA buses. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City May 3, 2013, 1:49 PM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 8 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I work at a local business on 1100 e. and I am excited about the streetcar! I think it's a no-brainer. 1100e is a great choice for it to connect to the first phase. Some like this area the way it is, however growth of our city is inevatable and so is the need to keep our air clean. Lee Rech in District 6 May 3, 2013, 11:59 AM I would prefer the Sugar House Street car not go up 1100 East or 2100 South - both areas are already densely populated with residential neighborhoods and small businesses that would likely not make it if streetcar construction were undertaken. 2100 South runs along side a large city park and by several public schools, creating a dangerous scenario that has not been adequately studied to date. Moreover, it was communicated to residents at the SHCC on April 30 that 2100 is a major thoroughfare for Salt Lake City Fire - another negative in regards to running the streetcar up 2100 South. Lastly, it was communicated to SHCC meeting attendees on April 30 that a property value study in conjunction with the streetcar has not been commissioned. For some of these reasons and many more, I respectfully ask that the SL City Council not vote on a specific route next week but rather look at other options and carefully study them before any Phase II route decision are confirmed regardless of impending Federal grant implications. Michael Cohn in District 5 May 3, 2013, 9:37 AM I write as a private citizen and these views are my own. I am now and have been actively involved in community affairs, and I am currently the co-chair of East Liberty Park Community Organization (ELPCO). The ELPCO neighborhood is directly adjacent to the "end of the line" if the Streetcar is extended north on 1100 East, and any extension of the 1100 East alignment would almost certainly continue north on 1100 East on its way to somehow, someway, connect to the University Trax line. First, a defense of the public process. There have been outraged citizens galore who claim to have not been part of nor notified of the LONG and open process that has brought us to this juncture. The ongoing availability of workshops, discussions, planning and community input were all pretty much well attended. This means that people were somehow getting the message about these meetings, and I urge everyone to at least find the lists you need to be on to be notified about meetings, etc., so you can be there when the ideas are being formulated. Get involved with your community council. Our own community council has devoted three separate meetings to this topic, one extremely well attended one is available from Channel 17. You can also watch that meeting from the following links: Windows: mms://slcstream.slcgov.com/Videos/CCM_2013_0328_SSC.wmv iPod: http://slcpodcast.slcgov.com/Videos/CCM_2013_0328_SSC.mov Next, a word about speculation. Much of what we lack in America in order to discuss and resolve All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 9 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? issues is an agreement on facts. If we all understand what the facts are, we can form the basis for compromise and understanding. Fact creation has become a bloodsport in the United States, and the Streetcar issue is turning into bloodsport in Salt Lake City. From the postings on this site, it is clear that many people do not understand the basic facts. I respect totally your right to be for or against any ordinance or idea, but if you have learned your "facts" from people who have an agenda of their own, you may not know the whole story. I urge all sides to find out what the facts are for yourself. I also urge readers to look at the big picture. Transit, which includes roadways, is functionally connecting areas together. Many cities have road networks that circle their cities in ever larger concentric circles. Mass transit works in a similar fashion. If we are to build a successful mass transit system in Salt Lake City, taking into account where people work, shop and entertain themselves within the City, we must ultimately connect the dots to make it possible to move around WITHIN the City WITHOUT A CAR. That is our goal in order to help make survival here tolerable, considering the air quality (or lack thereof) problems we endure. The 1100 East alignment would begin that "connecting the dots" process. The research, which I have been privileged to see, bears out that ridership, commercial and neighborhood development, and reduced usage of automobiles is best served by the 1100 East alignment. The density of population, the desire of the businesses along that corridor is in place, the potential for many fewer car trips exists along this alignment. There will be disruption during construction (there are always disruptions), and real care in design and zoning must be taken to preserve the character of these valuable neighborhoods. Residents will want to be near access to this transit as an alternative to car travel and property values will increase, just as in other similar neighborhoods in Seattle and Portland. Once extended, the "streetcar to nowhere" will be one of the highest ridership lines in Salt Lake City. We are choosing an alignment, ANY alignment, without a master transit plan. As citizens we are entitled to such a document, and I urge its immediate development. We are choosing now, so we can have the plans in place, because money is going to be breaking loose from all governments as we finally work our way out of the long lasting financial mess we have experienced for the past few years. This is not to say that a street car extending east of 21st South is a bad idea; quite the opposite, it is the southeastern link between the two concentric mass transit circles around Salt Lake City, between Foothill and Sugarhouse. We need a plan for the Foothill corridor, we need to look carefully at developing and serving 21st South and 21st East (and east), we need to work with UTA to make the connecting bus service a source of satisfaction, not frustration. I believe all of this mass transit development to be far sighted on the part of the Administration, who are charged with planning, step by step, for the inevitable increase in population over the next thirty years. I urge City Council to adopt the 1100 East alignment as the logical next step. Vallee Stetner in District 7 May 2, 2013, 3:38 PM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 10 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I oppose both proposals to put a street car on 2100 S or 1100 E. For what purpose is a street car added to 1100E?? The answer given is for the students of Westminster. This is a ridiculous waste of tax payer money to save college students a four block walk. The proposal by Soren Simonsen to run the street car up 2100 S is further folly with the sole purpose of financing the project through increased property taxes specifically for those homeowners located in the route area. There will be NO federal funding for this project. The cost of the project lays solely on the shoulders of the property owners of Sugar House. The revenue from increased taxes provides for Simonson to finance his dream as the residents of Sugar House pay higher taxes all the while losing values on their homes. We have a mass transit system in place in Sugar House. It is called our bus system and it runs far below capacity daily. Honesty in advertising - In the marketing of the Phase 2 Proposals: All studies used COMMERCIAL property as examples. These streets are RESIDENTIAL. This is a major difference. The Master Plan did not show any of the Trax Phase 1 plan until 2011. The Master Plan does not show the Sugar House trolley/streetcar. These properties were purchased and cared for by Sugar House residents with a Master Plan in place. Simonsen's proposal to diminish our property values and increase our property taxes has been marketed on misguided information. Please, see the Sugar House Street Car website for the marketing of the proposal shstreetcar.com. See the artist renderings of lushly landscaped parkways with walking paths and benches. This is not the plan. This is the marketing illustration when in fact the plan is to put two grooves (proven by a Portland study to have caused accidents with 69% of cyclists that have ridden on them) and overhead cable lines. There is NO plan for improvement of any kind. No burying of cables or utilities, no additional concrete, no landscaping. At least one, perhaps two of the four lanes on 2100 S or 1100 E would be grooved and overhead cables added, blocking traffic and limiting right hand turns. This will slow traffic as the street cars are by definition and designed very slow moving making many stops. They are said to be on a 15 minute schedule. The Phase 1 plan was a $50,000,000 project for 11 blocks. The cost of Phase 2 has not been announced in their marketing materials but it will be paid for by the property owners of Sugar House, ENTIRELY. The length of the street car is said to be no more than two parking spaces long but look at actual street cars including their own renderings and you can see they are much longer than two cars long and they come with accordion centers to add additional length. The marketing states they will not reduce property values...no one believes that correct?? I can demonstrate over and over again how adding a train or trolley, leaving every 15 minutes, can destroy home values. At least Trax has been confined thus far to existing railroad tracks. The Phase 2 proposal was said have had over 200 people participate in public open houses. I don't know if this is true but I nor my neighbors were provided information about these public open houses. Simonson stated he had a mailing yet I never received it nor did my neighbors. Why weren't the residents who LIVE along these residential streets included in this study? "In a recent Dan Jones survey, over 2/3 of Salt Lake City respondents strongly favored a streetcar network for Salt Lake City." Why wouldn't SLC respondents include residents in the affected area especially since the Sugar House residents are to finance the project?? The survey has since been found to be incomplete. This statement should not be in the marketing information. The Phase 2 studies were based on street car/trolley in Seattle (South Lake Union Trolley and the Capitol Hill Trolley) and the downtown Portland trolley system. Again, all are run in COMMERCIAL All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 11 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? areas. The Seattle trolleys have been dismal failures with outrage from the public. They are slow, outrageously expensive ($134mil), inconvenient and therefore under-utilized with thousands of public comments in reference to "waste of money, rolling roadblocks, $50K per rider on construction costs, tortoise and the hare, appropriate for 1912 not 2012, impassable, a waste of tax money. The Portland trolley has made legal right hand turns nearly impossible in the downtown area...ask any Portland local. See for yourself and Google public comments on these trolley projects. Trolleys are the new "it" project enticing developers. They are not supported by residents. Sugar House residents walk. We enjoy our area. The charm of Sugar House needs to be preserved not destroyed. Adding trolley street cars will slow traffic, destroy the esthetics of the neighborhoods, create safety issues for pedestrians of all generations and cost the residents dearly. Vallee Stetner Resident of Sugar House Name not shown in District 6 May 2, 2013, 3:34 PM I like the idea of the street car going up 21st south and then down Foothill to the U. Name not shown in District 5 May 2, 2013, 2:22 PM My comment regards the consultants that have been used to assess the routes. They seem to look narrowly at the area they are working on, (as though they're not from around here). As with the Sunnyside proposal, are you solving a problem or creating one? For example, in Sugarhouse, how does one get PAST Sugarhouse? If one is traveling from the North to 33rd, 39th, or 45th South to all the businesses in that direction, many of which are between 9th and 13th East, how would you go? Contribute to the bottleneck on 13th East? Drop way down to 7th East? (Same issue going south to north). It looks like they're creating a knot. Name not shown in District 7 May 2, 2013, 9:39 AM I have been living in sugar house for almost 34 years and I am very happy about the streetcar going North on 1100 East. I would very much like to see it connect with the University Trax line in the future. Bill Holt in District 6 May 1, 2013, 10:54 PM I do not feel like the Streetcar should go on either of the routes proposed by the City Council. The comparisons they do to Denver and Portland are based on a walking area with no traffic. You cannot close or congest a major entrance to Highland Drive, nor do the same to a major east-west traffic route (2100 South). The only logical extension for the line would be through the existing Sugarhouse All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 12 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? commons to the Park. There also has not been adequate time for residents of the affected areas to consider the proposals and make comments. There needs to be more indepth transportation needs, effects on traffic, noise, pollution, property value, etc. A vote should NOT be done by the city council on May 7. Please, give this more time and listen to we, the residents of Sugarhouse! julio facelli in District 6 May 1, 2013, 9:14 PM The streetcar from Trax to Sugar House is a great project, but the extension of the streetcar on 11 east is not justified. Perhaps it may be ok to extend the streetcar up to the Sugar House Park, but extension by 11 east is not reasonable and can't be justified. There are much better ways to spend taxpayer dollars. Perhaps, the Council should focus on the real transportation problem in the area: the foothills corridor. Off course, as good politicians the Council prefers to tinker with easy problems, provide marginal improvements and claim victory instead of showing real leadership and tackle the real transportation issue in the east bench. Julio C. Facelli 1847 s 2600 e salt lake city, ut 84108 [email protected] Derek Kitchen in District 3 May 1, 2013, 9:08 PM I am in support of the 1100 East route to 1700 South. I feel that this would be the best route for ridership and for supporting local business. I would ultimately like to see (hopefully within a year) a comprehensive transit plan for Salt Lake City, which ties together all transit focus areas for the City. As a business owner myself - currently in the Granary - I understand the concerns of many business owners along 1100 East (primarily the concern about the impact of streetcar construction on business). But as a shopper and transit commuter, I feel that 1100 East would be the most beneficial for the long term health of our local economy. Yes it would be nice to connect Sugarhouse Park and the 21st & 21st district, so why not explore the possibility of a BRT along 2100 So.? Tyson Carbaugh-Mason in District 3 May 1, 2013, 6:38 PM I believe that while the construction of a streetcar along the 1100 East corridor will be an off-putting experience for the businesses and residents along the proposed route, UTA and Salt Lake City have proven time and again through previous TRAX constriction that they are completely capable parties for mitigating the negative impacts of construction as best as possible. We as a community must exercise foresight in planning for the needs of our community not just today, but for many years in the future, and as a connection to our past. Historically, streetcars used to run along 1100 East and now the proximity of the proposed streetcar line to Westminster College, Sugarhouse Park, and the Sugarhouse commercial district along 100 East seems to flow easily between these landmarks within our community which many people come to visit. Alleviating traffic congestion along 1100 East would be a welcomed sight to many people within the community, including myself. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 13 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? The one major question I have with the proposed 1100 East alignment, which I support, is how far down 1100 East the line will continue. Continuing along 1100 East further than 900 South would pose particularly dangerous driving conditions on the hill coming Westbound on 800 South. The roadway as it exists today on 1100 East and 800 South would lead drivers blindly down toward a possible train crossing. With a possible 800 South/Sunnyside road diet (which I also strongly support from the results I have seen along 1300 East where I live. I cannot understate how fantastic living and walking along 1300 East has been since the road diet!) could serve to alleviate possible problems in the future is that is the City's desired route. That being said, I believe there is also a great community connection to be made from a possible 9th and 9th/Sugarhouse streetcar connection which I would urge the council to consider. Name not shown in District 2 May 1, 2013, 2:51 PM Well i think that the the streetcar should run across 1100 East. I dont think that the street car should run along 2100 South. Some reasons why i want the street cars to run along 1100 East, is because 1100 East isn't a busy street. It may be small, but it just aint as busy as 2100 South. 2100 South, is is a compacted road, adding a trax line to it, Personally i think it is causing more delay for everybody. Mostly everybody knows how much traffic that runs on 2100 South in Sugar House. I think that if they put up on 1100 East, i would be better and easier for everyone else. Name not shown in District 6 April 30, 2013, 10:33 PM I support taking the streetcar up 21st South via Wilmington. And I'm very frustrated by the administration's continued insistence that the 11th East option is supported by independent consultants. The analysis done by the "independent" traffic consultants was intentionally skewed to yield the results desired by Mayor Becker, as per usual for this administration. It cannot possibly have been a thorough analysis given that Sugarhouse Park was not included in the potential ridership. And there is also no way that the economic viability of the two options is comparable. There are so many more opportunities for increased tax revenues through additional housing units along 21st South. -The 11th East option will be a charming little photo op of a project that will do precious little to provide real benefit of any kind to the local area or the city at large. The Mayor should listen to his constituents, and he should stop funding "studies" designed to yield predetermined outcomes. Name not shown in District 7 April 30, 2013, 12:51 PM As a business located on Highland Drive, I am in favor of the line that would run along 1100 East and terminate at 1700 S. While I understand there will be construction, I think the long run benefit will be good for business and the community. I understand parking is a problem, but i believe the long term effect on parking will be minimal. Also I think it would help if everyone kept in mind that the construction phase of this project would be 5+ years down the road. Hopefully, by that time the sugar hole will be finished and the new parking that brings will be available. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 14 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I support the eastbound route (rather deceptively called 2100 South) running from the Fairmont Park terminus east along Wilmington, north to the south side of 2100 South and then east along the north side of Sugar House Park toward 1700 East. This route mostly avoids storefronts, serves numerous recreational/educational/business entities, links up an area under-served by UTA and bicycle routs with TRAX lines, and provides a logical route for future phases of the project. The 1100 East route, running on this narrow street, will devastate most of what's left of the "quaint" Sugar House shops not eliminated by the Sugar Hole fiasco* and provide access to little more than the Westminster campus, a ten-minute walk from 2100 South. *"Those who cannot remember the past are bound to repeat it." Victor Nevarez in District 2 April 29, 2013, 5:28 PM I would like to see a streetcar built around the westside Glendale area. Travis Jones in District 4 April 29, 2013, 9:17 AM Future phase of the Sugar House streetcar line should NOT go east along 2100 South. This alignment is a bad idea, I believe, because of the following reasons: - streetcars are (admitted by Salt Lake City and UTA) development tools, not necessarily a transit tool. streetcars should be located corridors with future increases in density potential. The 2100 S route takes it along the park which has no development. Having a streetcar adjacent to the park will put development pressure on the park. I do not want to see condos or any development in one of the two major parks in the city. - future routes from 2100 S to connect towards the University or downtown will necessitate the streetcar going thru single family residential neighborhood streets (2100 E, 1700 E, 2300 E). I suspect these residents will resist the streetcar, and taking the streetcar thru this type of neighborhood does not make sense since they will not redevelop. It makes more sense to extend the streetcar along 1100 East. This corridor already has pockets of commercial development and the density is greater than along 2100 South. The 1100 East alignment could potentially connect with the 9th and 9th district which would serve a streetcar well. Taking the streetcar north along 900 East from 900 South to connect toward TRAX and toward a future streetcar to the University makes sense, too. There is redevelopment potential along sections of 1100 East and in the future along 900 East. John Fakahafua in District 2 April 29, 2013, 2:40 AM I fully support this idea because I travel around these part of town majority of my days. This action will also benefit me and I'm sure others as well with gas and money in this scares time. So I would love this to happen in sugar house. -J.Fakahafua 1 Attachment All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 15 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? https://pd-oth.s3.amazonaws.com/production/uploads/attachments/11e829s4mjow.4ow/image.jpg (211 KB) Name not shown in District 6 April 27, 2013, 11:14 AM The 2100 South route makes the most sense. Kurt Bishop in District 5 April 27, 2013, 8:41 AM At the city hall meeting, a rendering was provided that showed the sugarhouse streetcar going both directions with the flow of traffic. It showed and it was stated that there would be no loss of parking on 1100 East. This would require a turnaround for the trolley, which takes up a lot of space and would require condemnation of property at 1700 So. It would also slow/ congest traffic. As I now understand it, the city is looking at a streetcar that goes back and forth in one line. That would need a dedicated lane, as it would not go in line with cars. 1100 east is not wide enough for 3 lanes, one for each direction of traffic and one for the trolley. That means the parking along 1100 E. would be sacrificed. This street is a mix of residential and commercial. Both would lose parking. The city needs to be honest about what the plan actually is and the consequences BOTH positive AND negative before this proposal is just pushed through on May 7th. Name not shown in District 3 April 26, 2013, 11:22 PM No to the streetcar on 1100. The street is too narrow as it is. Name not shown in District 7 April 26, 2013, 4:04 PM I was unable to make the City Council meeting this week but I would like to comment on the proposal to take the line down 1100 East. The plan to take the line down 1100 East would severely disrupt our local businesses and community members along 1100 East. It seems more logical to take the line up 2100 South and Sugarhouse Park where it could eventually be connected to the University Trax line along Foothill Blvd or head South along Highland. Those roads are wide enough to connect the lines without as much disruption. This allows for future increased access to public transportation by East Bench residents who currently lack access. It also allows for the potential to expand the line into the canyon areas of the valley. Additionally, the 1100 East plan puts the community at risk for delays in public safety response. It is already quite congested, lacking space for fire trucks and ambulances to maneuver along 1100 East. Construction of the line on 1100 East severely impairs the ability of emergency responders to serve the community in that area. Thank you for your time and consideration. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 16 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I think this is a great idea that I fully support. I live in the sugarhouse area and a streetcar would really help my transportation problem and save money on gas. Dale Angell outside Salt Lake City April 25, 2013, 9:59 PM I would like to throw out a totally new plan. I am a train geek, I have gone to cities just to ride the light rail and or trolley. San Josie has a great downtown loop running on the side of the street, forming a turn around for a light rail line. But it serves as a greet way to get around the city center, even though it's perhaps a mile total as a small car or two on some days, only circle the loop. (http://www.railwaypreservation.com/vintagetrolley/sanjose.htm) If the Sugar House streetcar turns WEST at 21st, going west to 9th east, then splitting north and south, with a line to 9th and 9th to the north and back to the main line at Wilmington, this make a loop through the center of Sugar House, just about one mile in length. A singel car "old style" trolley, (San Josie has 4 on the line that are restored old cars) can circle this line 4 times an hour. (Denver has a modern trolly running along the river that looks like a 100 year old car. not sure who built it, but I do know it was not a "one off", it's something from a company that makes these. See http://www.flickriver.com/photos/80651083@N00/3474084313/) 9th East is a wider street and can handle the track with ease. This is not as good in many ways as 11th, but much less of a problem to traffic, and doing much of the same thing. Not as good for Westminster, but still a good way to get to Sugar House and a GREAT way to connect to 9th and 9th. Pa'a Montalbo outside Salt Lake City April 25, 2013, 9:46 PM I would like to see the street car run through the park and also make stops near the McDonalds by Highland HS. Also I think it should start by East HS to allow the students there easy transportation to the beautiful Sugar House area Name not shown in District 3 April 25, 2013, 11:30 AM After attending the public hearing and researching the documents and issues related to the street car I am suggesting that the council step back and drastically revamp their decision-making process on this topic. At the hearing, over and over again, it was stated that there needs to be a master plan, that there needs to be more research and there needs to be more open discussion. I am worried that despite the councils best intention that the vote on May 7th is going to result in further discord of this community. I strongly suggest to the council the only decision made is one to re-evaluate this entire process. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 24, 2013, 4:24 PM As a resident of Sugarhouse who walks and takes public transportation VERY often, I am much more excited about the route proposed along 2100 S. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 17 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I wish we could see long-term plans for both of these options. We should be informed of the big picture before we're asked our opinions on the next step. I'd love for it to eventually hook up to the University of Utah and give access to the Foothill Drive/Zoo area. On a side note. It's getting ridiculous that distance-based fares have not been implemented by UTA. Far more people would use public transit to go a few blocks if they didn't have to pay a whopping $5 round trip. It's insane to expect a local to pay the same fare when going a few blocks to the grocery store as someone riding TRAX all the way from Draper. Name not shown in District 5 April 24, 2013, 4:10 PM I'm writing to voice my strong opposition to the proposed extension of the Sugarhouse street car line north on 1100 East. The street is already very congested due to traffic calming measures implemented on both 1100 and 1300 E streets. In addition, I very seriously doubt that there is a strong case (economically or otherwise) that would justify the expense. Ridership from the adjacent neighborhoods would not be substantial. The addition of the line to 1100 E. would likely reduce property values and present a noise problem for those living on or near the street. If the city is serious about using funds effectively for mass transit, consideration should be given to more effective routes such as 2100 S. to the Walmart shopping center area and down Foothill Drive which carries many single driver vehicles. Please avoid ruining the many neighborhoods along 1100 E. Dave Maynes in District 7 April 24, 2013, 2:48 PM 1100 East. Higher density, Westminster College and potential future connectivity to 400 south TRAX. No brainer! Name not shown in District 6 April 24, 2013, 1:52 PM Hi. I have been following the debate and wanted to weigh in. I live 3 blocks from Sugarhouse Park. I use the post office and gas station on 11th. I shop in the Sugarhouse shopping area. There are better (and less impactful) ways to expand transit service on 1100 East than adding in a streetcar. That street would need more than a streetcar to be pedestrian-friendly. It would first need a major development of businesses geared towards bringing folks into the area. Right now the businesses there that are frequented the most are car-friendly. With the street being so narrow, adding a streetcar would mean eliminating a driving lane, or a sidewalk, encroaching on the already limited space and crowded buildings. Please extend the line to the east to Sugar House Park and then up 2100 South. It would mean less negative impact on the surrounding area and more possibility for further expansion. The area is already making a push for being pedestrian-friendly. There will already be pedestrian-friendly businesses. Why not invest where they are already making an effort? It would be a much smarter All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 18 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? investment for Sugarhouse's future and the transit network. Thank you for this consideration. Name not shown in District 7 April 24, 2013, 1:31 PM I would like to see the city have a master plan for public transit prior to implementing a street car in Sugarhouse. That said, my preference would be to see a street car head up 2100 South and connect upper and lower Sugarhouse. I do not want the street car on 1100 East. I strongly believe that putting a street car on 1100 East (which is all ready congested), would add to the congestion and jeopardize the charm and integrity of the local businesses that line this portion of the street. Large scale development has all ready pushed out so much of the local business charm of this area. To further push out local businesses and increase congestion in an all ready congested area will only negate the point of a streetcar. If there is nothing original and worth seeing in a neighborhood that you couldn't get at Fashion Place mall or the church's City Creek, what will draw people to this neighborhood anymore? 2100 South has the space and the capacity to handle a streetcar, please consider this location. John Woods in District 2 April 24, 2013, 1:28 PM There are three destinations that make sense for an extension of the Sugar House street car line. One is Westminster College, another is the Sugar House Shopping Center and the third is the Brickyard Plaza Shopping Center to the south. It would make some sense to serve Highland High School, but I would expect less ridership there than at the other locations. The areas along both 1100 East and 2100 South to the north and east of those destinations seems to be too low density to benefit from a street car. Given the apparent opposition to those routes expressed in the public meeting, local residents do not want to encourage high density residential use that would alter their neighborhood while making the street car line viable. These areas would be better served by a network of light weight buses on routes designed to collect people and bring them to a stop at the eastern end of the street car line. It would make more sense in the long run to serve the area to the east by extending another street car line to the southeast of the University of Utah along Foothill Drive to serve the commercial areas along that corridor and the eastern bench residential areas. That scenario would fit better with current commuting patterns. If the goal is to serve the college, then it would make most sense to me to extend the line across Highland Ave to Hidden Hollow Park and turn north, crossing 2100 South at 1200 East and continuing on to the college near the Village Green complex. The college could be connected to the station with a beautiful pedestrian path along Emigration Creek. It would require designing a shared road space along 1200 East to provide safe access to the few existing single family homes on that street, but it would serve some relatively high density apartments along 12th East and serve both the college and Sugar House Shopping Center. Nice landscaping could create a street that is still a nice place to live with an interesting urban feel. It would also have the advantage of keeping existing collector traffic moving on both 11th and 13th East Streets. If however, the goal is to serve more businesses and create opportunity for mixed use transit oriented All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 19 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? development, it would make more sense to serve Sugar House Shopping Center and turn south, either on Highland or 1300 East and continue south to serve the Brickyard Plaza Shopping Center. That would create another opportunity to develop a high density mixed use center which would build ridership on the street car line. In that scenario, Westminster College could be served by a shuttle with frequent trips to the Sugar House Shopping Center station on the new street car line. That service could even start now when the first phase of the street car line opens. Name not shown in District 7 April 24, 2013, 12:01 PM Whoever is proposing streetcar expansion obviously does not live where the streetcars will run. I have to get my kids to school up 21 st every morning and it is already busy, the streetcar continuing up 21st is going to make that even more difficult. As far as the streetcar crossing and continuing north down 1100 east, that road near the intersection with 21st is a nightmare as it is. The street car will make it worse. The people who have to drive these streets because we live very near to the streetcar will still have to drive them. The streetcar will not alleviate any of that burden, it will only increase it. Name not shown in District 7 April 24, 2013, 11:31 AM As a Sugar House resident and active pedestrian, I would love to see the street car go along 1100 E. and eventually connect to 9th and 9th/TRAX. Eleventh East is hands down the most logical route, with existing pedestrian friendly commercial/retail and potential for more of the same. The route also has more existing density and potential for future infill and density. The same cannot be said about the 2100 South route, which services a primarily low-density single family residential neighborhood that will likely remain the same for the next 100 years. In addition, it is a "street" car, not TRAX. 1100 E is a pedestrian oriented STREET, 2100 is far from pedestrian oriented (with the exception of one intersection at 21st & 21st) and it a major principal arterial road/thoroughfare. Therefore, it seems better suited for BRT or even TRAX (although again, the density doesn't exist to justify that type of investment). The 2100 route would only service the residents living in the Country Club and East Bonneville Hills neighborhood because very few others will ride into that neighborhood, as it has very few amenities/destinations beyond residential. In order for it to be a logical investment, 2 way ridership traffic seems essential. It is a shame that so much misinformation has been spread and I' am disappointed that it has become such a divisive issue within the community. It is also disheartening that there isn't a larger "support" voice heard amongst the 1100 East route supporters, because I know they exist based on dozens and dozens of conversations with residents and business owners in the area. I guess that is the nature of public participation, it's easier to get the opposition rallied up and vocal as opposed to getting the supporters to voice their opinion. Name not shown in District 7 April 24, 2013, 10:39 AM Please do not route down 1100 East. It's already quite easy to walk along 1100 East and most of the All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 20 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? area past the post office is residential. Celisse Wofford in District 5 April 24, 2013, 9:38 AM The proposed route of the street car north along 11th East is not a viable option the street is too narrow and the consequences of more congested traffic on other main roads such as 7th East, various side streets, and 13th East. as a resident of the liberty wells district. I often shop and spend time in the Sugar House area, and have been watching the development of the street car. In my opinion the community would be best served by having the street car stop at it's present point with phase 1 and call that good. There is nothing wrong with a good stretch of the legs a walk will provide. Susan Sandack in District 7 April 24, 2013, 8:05 AM I agree we need more east/west public transportation options. 1100 east is too small and residential of an area to have a large transpo system running through. Citizens and visitors expect to find and use streetcars in business districts - not neighborhoods. I'm not xenophobic (fear of strangers), but I would rather not see the city giving easy access for strangers to the quiet neighborhoods of Sugarhouse. And regarding noise: A dripping faucet is not necessarily loud, but the rhythm is annoying. My preference is to run the streetcar east/west on 2100 South. Name not shown in District 5 April 23, 2013, 9:57 PM Here's a vote for the 11th east route, as far north as you can go. As an east side Liberty Wells resident, I live in the city core to have good access and not rely on a car, but feel like I have very limited access to mass transit (rail). By the time I get in a car to get to trax, I typically may as well just drive. Bring the streetcar up 11th would put it in walking distance, linking us into the system. Peggy McDonough in District 7 April 23, 2013, 8:41 PM As an emeritus member of the SLC Planning Commission, and a resident who lives within a block of the 2100 So. / 1100 E. intersection, I strongly agree with Council Member Soren Simonsen, in all of the points he outlined in his letter of April 12, 2013. Particularly, the following: ++ An extension to 1300 East and Sugar House Park would better connect into to the Sugar House Shopping Center, which is the largest retail and employment center in Salt Lake City outside of downtown and the University of Utah. This area is zoned for higher density, mixed-use similar to downtown Salt Lake City, and development plans are already being drawn to gradually replace older sections of the shopping center. Integrating the streetcar into new development plans will add capacity for growth, while reducing negative impacts to existing neighborhoods and local business districts. This option stands a better chance of keeping streetcar costs at a minimum to the community. Developers, property owners and the community are excited for just this type of integrated All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 21 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? development, which is also a clear goal and vision of our community as reflected in our master plans. ++ Beyond the extension to 1300 East and Sugar House Park, I believe the best long-term decision for our City is to continue the streetcar further east along 2100 South—initially to Highland High School, and eventually beyond. ++ The current proposal to take the streetcar on 1100 East to 1700 South does not connect directly to a destination. Even if it extends further to the north, it won’t connect directly to any major destinations. Getting to Downtown or the University would require an additional transfer, and each transfer adds time and becomes a disincentive to using transit. ++ If you look at potential riders north or east from the two alternatives, there is much higher demand for additional future extensions to the east beyond the area of this study. ++ There are better (and less impactful) ways to expand transit service on 1100 East than adding in a streetcar. ++ By extending the streetcar to the east on 2100 South, we would also expand opportunities to improve a bus transit network on 1100 East, 1300 East, 1500 East, 1700 East, 2100 East, 2300 East, Parleys Way and Foothill Boulevard as well. (A much smarter investment for the City's future transit network) ++ (The study) had very little input from students, including those at Highland High, Westminster, and the University of Utah. These students use transit more than those of us who are older, and surveys show that student and younger populations are choosing to live and work in places with good transit service in increasing numbers. I am sure the public hearing revealed justified resident anxiety of traffic impact of the 1100 East extension option, with which I agree as well. However, the strongest selection reasoning lies with the east extension strategy to reinforce the multi-use community node east of Highland Drive and south of 2100 South. By far, the smarter investment is the 2100 extension transit option, as it will provide our City with future flexible options for community connection and improvements along this major transit artery. Curtis Haring in District 3 April 23, 2013, 8:39 PM 1100 E. is a very logical route for an extension to go. First off, the road could support a rail line and increase access to small shops, residents, and Westminster College. Second, the less traveled road (when compared to 1300 E. or 700 E.) means that overall impact of car travel will be reduced both during and after construction. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 22 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Third, concerns over sound and safety, I feel, are unfounded. Light Rail, which is a much heavier and louder train, is still a very quiet mode of transport - A slower moving, lighter, streetcar should be even safer and quieter than the current system. Opposition appears to be the same opposition that pops up whenever a new TRAX line is proposed and, I suspect, will disappear just as quickly when the line opens. The new line is expected to get the most bang for our buck and serve the majority of Salt Lake's citizens, be they residents, shop owners, or students. Jonathan Hamelin in District 7 April 23, 2013, 7:04 PM I moved to the area so my family can enjoy all that Sugarhouse has to offer. What that means to us is walkable neighborhoods and parks. I travel on 1100 east daily and DO NOT want this area to be altered to serve a very limited few (3600) that are only using the area temporarily. If access to Westminster is the concern, then put the trolly line on 1300 east so there is a direct connection to the new student housing. I for one highly doubt any college kid is going to walk downhill to 1100, ride the line for 3 blocks, and then walk back uphill to school. I am in favor of the line in general and would love to have access up 2100 south past the park and continue up to Foothill and over past the university of Utah to connect with the Trax line that ends at the stadium. The impact to the neighborhoods surrounding the proposed 1100 east section is too great and would remove the benefit of living in this area. Rick Gregory in District 6 April 23, 2013, 7:02 PM NOT up 1100 East! With only a single pair of rails, the streetcar will have only one train moving between Sugarhouse and 2100 South TRAX. This will be a nice tourist draw and probably take some riders away from the 2100 S buses, but as far as being or becoming an integral link in the city transportation network, probably not. It really should be referred to as the Sugarhouse Yo-Yo - back-and-forth, back-and-forth,.... What is REALLY NEEDED is a TRAX line up Foothill Drive; a loop through Sugarhouse would become a shortcut for those wishing to avoid the downtown congestion and delays. But this requires a second set of rails to be efficient and mesh with the remainder of the TRAX system. Please, let's have a discussion about the ENTIRE TRAX system, not this piecemeal segment by segment approach. Anything less than system-thinking will result in such anomalies as the Intermodel Deadend (aka "Hub"). Name not shown in District 7 April 23, 2013, 6:47 PM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 23 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I oppose extending rail lines into suburban neighborhoods where bus routes are available. The usage of the street car line now under construction remains in question. However, one thing we know for sure - it will require endless tax payer subsidies to maintain and operate – another excuse to raise property taxes. Regarding an extension, those who say they care deeply about pollution have little to say about the noise associated with a rail system or the resulting traffic congestion. Then there is safety, which in this town, seems to be especially challenging when it comes to rails. I ride a bike, I walk and I rode the UTA for years, but in my opinion, nothing beats driving a fuelefficient, low-emission car. If we have money to burn, let’s improve the roads. Subhash Kithany in District 7 April 23, 2013, 6:27 PM I prefer the Streetcar route along 2100 south rather than 1100 East. Here are my reasons: 1. Salt Lake City needs more east-west public transport 2. 2100 South has more potential to bring more people under public transport 3. 1100 East will serve limited number 4. 1100 East has less room to build rails- the place is already very crowded- unless you demolish some buildings ps: I live and work in Sugar House area. Greg Van Dyke in District 5 April 23, 2013, 6:26 PM I live in an area that would be immediately served by the extension (1700 s 1100e), and I am opposed to the extension, either here or otherwise. the area immediately adjacent to 2100 s on 1100e is a traffic nightmare, and would be made worse by this extension. There is an existing bus line (213), that serves this area and connects it to the trax line to the north. Jennifer Pinkowski in District 7 April 23, 2013, 4:51 PM Since when has it been "OK" for public monies to be used to transport students to their private college, which happens to be about 3 blocks away from where most of them reside? This proposed streetcar line up 1100 east to 1700 South, the "Line to Nowhere", (except connect the rich kids to their college) makes no sense to the taxpayers of the city, the residents of these everdwindling eclectic neighborhoods, or the small, local business owners who operate within the neighborhood confines. Perhaps it only makes sense to a few over-privileged students who are too lazy to walk, ride a bike, or take the bus. Perhaps Westminster should construct itself a parking structure to accommodate its students. It's not my responsibility, my neighbor's responsibility, or the responsibility of any tax-paying property owner in SLC. The residents of Sugarhouse have made their decision about this route very clear. No, and no, and no again!!! Simple. It will be very interesting to see if the good 'ol "secret handshake and old-school tie crowd" will win out All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 24 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? again, destroying a neighborhood (or destroying anything, for that matter) for their own selfish ends with no regard for the permanent residents who have worked so hard to keep it real. Keep it real, City Council Members! We're paying attention. Name not shown in District 7 April 23, 2013, 4:26 PM No...No.....No. It makes no logical sense to run a rail line down 1100 e ending...nowhere and at the bottom of a hill. There are too many arguments that make sense for continuing the line to the east through sugarhouse park and to the underserved public transportation hole that is the east bench. Then think of the traffic impact on the neighborhoods that border this prime retail area.....devastating. The traffic on 1000 e during prime hours (and people's incapacity to follow posted speed limits and traffic direction...is a round about too difficult?) is already too dangerous for my children to play freely in front of my home. Adding a streetcar to 1100 e would do nothing but increase the number of drivers avoiding lights and regulation as they move east from 900 e and w from 1100 e. The only logical line would run north through the business district and then along the north edge of sugarhouse park...how much fun on the 4th of July....what great access to the east bench 2100 and 2100 area....and ultimately the U of U. I hope public interest serves the public good....not a random spur that con only serve students from a private educational institution. Michael Rubin in District 7 April 23, 2013, 3:26 PM I live in the Sugarhouse neighborhood in the immediate vicinity of the proposed extension of the streetcar north along 1100 East. I am strongly opposed to this extension plan for a number of reasons. 1. 1100 East, at least the portion just north of 2100 South, is a two-lane road that is already exceptionally congested. The streetcar will run in the traffic lanes, and according to the city, it will "run slowly" and "make frequent stops". As it's a two-lane road, there won't be any simple way for cars to get around the streetcar, creating more congestion. I have not heard any solutions for this from the city, except possibly creating designated stopping points on the side of the street for the streetcar, which means removal of parking spaces from 1100 East. In my opinion, this will only add to the congestion and parking problems. 2. I don't believe the streetcar will have a significantly positive impact on congestion around the corner of 1100 East and 2100 South. In fact, as above, I think it will potentially worsen the congestion. This may very well lead to increased use of shortcuts through our neighborhood as people get around the busy intersection. I don't see the streetcar discouraging it, but rather the opposite. 3. Turning north off of Hollywood Ave onto 1100 East is already a problem in the mornings, evenings, and weekends due to congestion (and the Post Office). My sense is this will only worsen with the streetcar. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 25 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? 4. Most of the businesses we've talked with on 1100 East are opposed to the streetcar, as it will cause significant issues for them during construction, as well as likely remove precious parking spaces. 5. I don't believe the city adequately assessed the impact of the streetcar on the businesses and neighborhoods most impacted by it. I think the city is putting too much weight on the opinions of the Westminister community, and not enough on those of the immediate neighborhood around 1100 East. The study done by the city failed to assess the impact of the 1100 East extension on the surrounding streets and neighborhoods. 6. The businesses and community along 2100 South would much more easily handle the interruptions caused by construction than the small, successful businesses along 1100 East, mostly because the road is wide enough to handle it better. Name not shown in District 7 April 23, 2013, 3:05 PM I am a business owner in Sugarhouse, Barber Tax Service. We are located on 17th S and 11th E and would welcome and support the new streetcar route up 11th East. Name not shown in District 5 April 23, 2013, 2:34 PM I live on 11th E and am not in favor of the street car being on it. It will harm businesses and will create more congestion. The best route would be the one going east towards Sugar House Park and Foothill. This would be the best option for connecting neighborhoods and helping businesses in the long run. Bryce Garner in District 2 April 23, 2013, 1:22 PM I think that the city council should recommend the 1100 East alignment. This is the alignment that will have the highest ridership. What is the use of spending thousands of dollars on a consultant to come up with the recommended alignment based on numbers that come from their research only to have city councilmen say they do not like that alignment and want something that serves their own purposes. I understand that many of the businesses are afraid of the effect of construction. One can look at the Airport TRAX line construction to see that the contractors and UTA bend over backwards to assist the local businesses. During the Airport line construction, only one local business along North Temple closed down. Sugar House has a large enough pedestrian/biking community that those businesses will have plenty of business--especially with all of the apartment buildings that are being constructed and planned in the near future. I notice that some have said the buses on 2100 south have high ridership. This is probably because most of those start or end at the University of Utah which is the largest single employer in the state, All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 26 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? not to mention all of the students. Name not shown in District 7 April 23, 2013, 1:16 PM The proposal to extend the streetcar east to Sugar House Park and Highland High School is brilliant. Sugar House Park is an extremely popular location for all citizens of Salt Lake City, not just residents of Sugar House. The northbound on 1100 east option ignores this issue entirely. Highland High students deserve consideration as much as Westminster students. The Westminster students need only walk ONE additional block with the eastbound proposal vs the two blocks with the northbound proposal. Eventually extending the streetcar to the Foothill Village area would be an excellent step toward a line connecting to the University of Utah. Taking the streetcar east along Wilmington avenue and the Shopko region will benefit not only more businesses but also improve walkability in Sugar House. Sally Barraclough in District 7 April 23, 2013, 12:06 PM As a member of the SH Community Council and a citizen of District 7, I have had the opportunity to attend many public outreach meetings regarding the future expansion of the Sugar House Street Car project. I have listened carefully to pros and cons of both the 11th East and 21st South alignments. I believe the best alternative route is North on 11th East for the following reasons. •11th East to 17th South is already a viable business and housing corridor with many retail shops, restaurants, and housing units. The Sugar House Station Post Office is one the busiest in the city. Putting the Street Car on 21st South in order to spur future economic growth would ignore an already established area of Sugar House. •An 11th East route will relieve the auto congestion in the Sugar House business district. This is critical as we are adding many housing units near this route. •The 11th East route will be a safer route for pedestrians using the Street Car. With one travel lane in each direction north and south, 11th East has a naturally slower traffic flow. 21st South has multiple lanes of traffic with more potential for pedestrians to cross in an unsafe manner to get on the Street Car. •Students at Westminster College are on campus and living in our community 24hrs per day all year round. They will utilize the Street Car more consistently than Highland High School students who go home in the afternoon and are not in school in the summer months. •The money spent to lay 2+blocks of track along the north side of Sugar House Park would be better spent extending the track north on 11th east. Sally Barraclough 2828 South Filmore St. SHCC Trustee, Citizen District 7 All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 27 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Very weak reasons were given in the Simonsen and Luke letters promoting eastward extension of the street car line. Actually, residence properties eastward along 2100 S. would decline in value, and many residences would gradually be replaced by transient struggling commerce, spoiling the peaceful park and neighborhoods. Residents do not want or need a street car. If there are public funds to burn, please spend on bike racks, bike and pedestrian safety, and security personnel in the existing Sugarhouse business district. Jeff Pickett in District 7 April 23, 2013, 9:33 AM I live in District 7 and have lived here for nearly 30 years. I drive along 2100 South every day and, consequently, am very familiar with the traffic patterns along this street. With that background, I am greatly concerned about extending the Streetcar line beyond McClelland Street and north along 1100 East for the following reasons: (1) 1100 East is a narrow street that is already extremely congested. While a streetcar will reduce some traffic, I do not believe it would reduce traffic enough to offset the loss of one or more lanes. (2) The 2100 S/1100 E intersection is very busy. I drive through that intersection everyday during rush hour and cannot imagine how busy it would be with lane restrictions due to a streetcar line. (3) The destination serves a very limited population (2,500 students at Westminster) who need to travel a short distance to a single destination. While I recognize that there may be a need for these students, it seems like bus lines along 1100 East would be a better solution to meet their needs. Despite these concerns, I am even more concerned with Council Member Simonsen's proposal of extending the Streetcar line east to Sugarhouse Park, Highland High, and eventually further east. I have these concerns for the following reasons: (1) For many of the reasons described above, I have concerns with the line going along 1100 East due to congestion even if it turns east at 2100 South. (2) The section along 2100 South from 1100 East to 1300 East is the busiest section of 2100 South. A streetcar would further limit traffic flow and increase congestion and would limit access to those businesses along that section of 2100 South. (3) The stretch along 2100 South from 1300 East to 1700 East, while less congested than the 1100 East to 1300 East section, becomes incredibly congested during rush hour, particularly the westbound side with the two turn lanes that turn left (south) onto 1300 East. In addition, when there are accidents at that intersection, I have seen traffic backed up all the way to 2300 East. Having a streetcar line that takes some of those traffic lanes would further increase the congestion. (4) There are homes and a high school along 2100 South from 1300 East eastward. I worry that the children living in those homes and attending these schools will be at greater risk of accidents happening, particularly the young drivers attending Highland High. (5) I'm greatly concerned about extending the line beyond 1700 East as traffic is heavy and the streets are narrow. Particularly during the morning rush hour, there is a lot of congestion at the 21st/21st intersection because of parents taking their children to Dilworth. A streetcar will not solve those issues and will further compound them. The bottom line is that 2100 South was not designed for a streetcar which would further limit traffic flow. Furthermore, I fear that congestion along 2100 All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 28 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? South will increase traffic in the surrounding neighborhoods on residential streets. I recognize that the majority of my concerns relate to congestion in an already busy area and that the logical counter-argument is that a streetcar will relieve the congestion. In his recent letter to the residents of District 7, Council Member Simonsen noted that there are "very few bus routes running north and south through this area, and none that run continuously east and west." I fear that we are not answering the question, "why is that the case?" The reason these bus lines don't exist is because the demand for public transportation in these areas does not exist. If the demand existed, UTA would create the necessary bus lines because they would generate a profit for UTA. Unfortunately, I fear we have an attitude of "if we build it, they will come." That line of thinking is backwards. The proper line of thinking is if the demand for the services is there, we should build the line. I fear the demand is not there. Finally, while we are no longer technically in a recession, most people are treating their personal finances as if we are in a recession. It seems to me that the prudent thing right now would be for our government to treat our tax dollars as if we were in a recession as well. Part of the money that is being spent on this is mine and I do not want my hard-earned money spent making traffic in my neighborhood more congested than it already is. Name not shown in District 6 April 23, 2013, 9:05 AM I think 2100 up to Sugar House Park makes the most sense. 1100 east is too narrow. Students can easily access the quick walk to Westminster from 2100 South. Dennis Lawrence in District 6 April 23, 2013, 8:54 AM My wife and I have lived in the Sugar House area (1700 East and 1700 South) for over 40 years. We approved the Sugar House street car extension because it utilized an existing right-of-way that had not been used for years and seemed a natural to connect Sugar House by rail to the rest of the City. We have no express opinion about the termination alternatives except that the Sugar House Monument is the Hub of Sugar House and should remain so by receiving the street car. However, the street car should terminate at sugar house. We are very much opposed to an extension North along 1100 East. This street has and does hold a long history with us of small eclectic businesses on a very narrow street and a street car here would crowd out our access to those businesses that depend on customers from the outlying residential community to drive to their location. More importantly we would loose all those businesses during the construction. Main Street in Salt Lake has never returned to the same it was before the Trax line. Our friends and relatives who own businesses on North Temple have suffered a lot with many closing their doors from the restrictions to traffic and long delays. Please do not do this to our 1100 East community that we admire. Enhance the walking and biking and bus traffic instead. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 29 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I recommend the spur heading north on 1100 East. The population of students served by this would be greater than any population that could be serviced going east to Highland High. Students who do not use public transit to attend school have service provided by the school district. College students on the other hand, do not enjoy that service. I am most concerned with (1) the massive construction that will happen in the heart of a residential community and (2) the practicality of running the line east...what is the purpose other than just grabbing federal grants that are currently available? What will it service? People going to cowboy grub or foothill village? There is not enough economic activity to justify this extension eastward and it would not serve the community well to have this disruption for nothing. I do not believe that it would be used to go to sugarhouse park as it is a community park and those who live closer to Fairmont or Liberty Park would likely just go to those parks as they have similar features as Sugarhouse. This park does not offer anything unique that would consistently draw visitors. Some recommend that it should extend to Foothill Boulevard to attractions, but it seems much more feasible to run TRAX from its current line, to Foothill and on the side of the belt route in the future transportation plan. It would be a waste of taxpayers dollars to construct this line and cause too much disruption to a residential community that will likely not use it enough to make it worthwhile. I support the streetcar as it is currently laid out and also support a spur extending north on 1100 East because of the population it would serve and the need it would meet. If the extension were to be initiated, I see the community becoming a commuter community, housing more students and driving families out of the city... I would likely move my family from the community if this were to happen and use my property as a rental property. I see this being the case for the community, which would be a shame as it is one of the best communities in which to raise children near the city. Name not shown in District 7 April 23, 2013, 8:37 AM I feel that the streetcar line should go east on 2100 S. This would enable people throughout the valley to easily access downtown Sugarhouse as well as Sugarhouse park. This option makes more sense than going up 1100 E to 1700 S. Please take the line east on 2100 S. Jenny Girten in District 7 April 23, 2013, 8:36 AM I prefer the street car proceed eastward toward Sugar House Park. That is a true destination that draws people from across the city, and will increase business traffic to that shopping area. Sugar House is unique for its walkability/bikeability (if that is a word?) combined with the shopping/business giving it an urban flair. Placing the street car on 1100 East will make me NOT want to walk to the post office or library, or use the bike lane, due to the noise and congestion - I will safer in a car and that is what we are trying to reduce! Taking the street car further east begins the process of expanding public transit in a larger loop for the city up toward Foothill and then the University of Utah in the future. I am excited to use it to connect with the Central Pointe trax station. Name not shown in District 7 April 23, 2013, 8:11 AM Please consider continuing the streetcar eastbound. This would be safer for travelers rather than having to cross 13th East by foot. 11th East is great with pockets of street parking and walkable retail All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 30 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? neighborhood. No need for streetcar there. The bigger picture, UTA, needs to be incorporated into these improvements. It is so difficult to teach our children the benefits of Mass Transit when cost is prohibitive and routes are scarce. We find Mass Transit easy to use when we are visiting other cities. . . San Francisco, Seattle, Boston, New York. Thank you. Timothy T. Brosnahan, Jr. in District 6 April 23, 2013, 2:54 AM TRANSPORTATION SERVICE TO THE EAST BENCH OAK HILLS AREA MUST BE RESTORED! Utah's Hogle Zoo and This Is The Place Heritage State Park are restricted to three busses zooinbound mornings and three busses zoo-outbound evenings scheduled to accommodate employees. Utah's Hogle Zoo may be the only major zoo without regularly scheduled public transportation service in the Association of Zoos & Aquariums. Would this fact hinder Utah's Hogle Zoo's accreditation status? UTA's FRONTRUNNER from Ogden to Provo and TRAX service to Salt Lake International Airport has been established since discontinuance of UTA service to Utah's Hogle Zoo and This Is The Place Heritage State Park, thus providing a whole new ridership. The Hogle Zoo, concerned about liability turning around busses in their parking lot, was accommodated by a turn-around scheme at This Is The Place Heritage Park. Utah Transit Authority conducted its audit during the week Crestview Drive was closed off, deceptively showing less ridership to the Crestview Drive to Vista View Drive to Kennedy Drive route. During the public hearing, there were only two negative comments. One from a Vista View resident who had just moved in within 30 days of the hearing and thought the bus service would interrupt her sleep Saturday mornings (she has since changed her opinion, as it would have been a great service for her continuing piano students) and another who had her property up for sale and thought bus service would devalue her property (she moved approximatley 60 days of the discontinued service). The condominiums on Donner Way and Kennedy Drive have needs for public transportation: 1. for medical, service and domestic employees. 2. Many elderly used UTA on a regular basis when UTA service was available. 3. "Paratransit service only covers areas that are within three-fourths of a mile boundry of a fixed bus route and around the TRAX rail stations" thus making this service unassessible to current residents in this highly needed public transportation area. 4. Petitions with signatures of residents from all buildings in this area requesting service be restored was provided to UTA, however, UTA countered with its audit taken while Crestview Drive was totally closed to traffic for construction and bus service was temporarily halted. Donner Trails Park on Kennedy Drive has one of the most beautiful views of Salt Lake City and accommodates soccer practice, picnicing and a nearly one-mile circular walking path. Both Donner Trails Park and Rotary Glen Park adjoin Utah's Hogle Zoo to the East and are both currently without public transportation. Timothy T. Brosnahan, Jr. 1065 Donner Way All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 31 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Salt Lake City, Utah 84108-2506 Resident at this address for over 33 years Formerly Public Relations / Special Projects for This Is The Place Heritage State Park Current Utah's Hogle Zoo Booster Denice Lingen in District 7 April 23, 2013, 12:24 AM I would like to see the streetcar route extended east to Sugarhouse Park. I feel that this is a location that would be beneficial for both those traveling to the east side (as a destination) and also those residing in Sugarhouse. Connecting the streetcar line to Sugarhouse Park would also bring access to the shopping center on 1300 East and would have a positive effect on commerce in the area. I live between 1300 East and 2000 East, and over the past 10 years, we have seen public transit cut back severely in our area. I would love to have a viable option that would take residents of our community to the trax line, and bringing the streetcar route even a few blocks further east would make this route more accessible for us. Jahn Barlow in District 3 April 22, 2013, 10:39 PM Whatever you do, please keep the streetcar away from the Sugar House monument plaza. Please expand this pedestrian-only area in the heart of Sugar House! Going east along 2100 South seems to make the most sense for now. Eventually, Salt Lake needs to create North/South streetcar connections between the University TRAX line and the Sugar House streetcar line, but from the video presentation, it sounds like those residential area need a lot more study to determine the best route(s). Should it be located on 500 East, 700 East, 1100 East or 1300 East? Or some combination of those? It's hard to say right now, until the master transportation plan is developed. If the streetcar line goes north on 1100 East, it will almost inevitably end up going through 9th & 9th. Both 1100 East (between 2100 and 1700 South) and 9th and 9th are neighborhoods with a great organic urban vibe and both are very walkable areas of the city. Do we risk ruining what is already working without studying the effect of streetcars on these neighborhoods? 2100 South (east of 1300 East) does not have a good urban vibe and is far from the most inviting pedestrian corridor in the Sugar House vicinity. I think a streetcar can only improve 2100 South and make it feel more like an urban street, and less like a suburban thoroughfare. I understand the need to connect to Westminster, but as others have indicated, it's a relatively short and safe walk or bike ride to the proposed streetcar route on 1300 East and 2100 South. Walking and bicycling are the ultimate green options. If Westminster students want to show their support for a sustainable community, this short distance is not a significant barrier to their access public transit. michael maloney in District 7 April 22, 2013, 7:09 PM I agree completely with Mr. Simonson assessment of the routes for the short and long term expansion of the Sugarhouse streetcar system. North on 11th east should not be an option. Being a All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 32 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? resident of Sugarhouse for the past 26 years I look forward to using this system. thank you, M.J.Maloney Tricia J in District 7 April 22, 2013, 6:11 PM I would prefer that the streetcar extension head east to Sugarhouse Park and Highland High. I spend quite a bit of time on foot in the area while walking my dog and see many more pedestrians on the sidewalks between 1100 East and 1300 East than I do when heading north to the post office. East/west travel is an issue in our area and while it would be great to have the funding for both, since that is not the case I think the community would be better served by extending the streetcar east instead of north. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 22, 2013, 5:50 PM I think its best if we keep it the way it is. Yes, there is traffic but in the long run it affects our ecosystem. Global warming is getting worse and worse whether we realize it or not. Which will only cause more Utahns to pay taxes, create more problems and higher debt. I say instead of having a street car, lets widen the streets. That'll save much more money, and help our ecosystem out a little bit. Lesser traffic and safer roadways. Name not shown in District 7 April 22, 2013, 3:27 PM 1100 E / Highland is already narrow enough and congested enough. The entire community would be better served with a line that continues to head East towards FootHill. Rachel Otto in District 5 April 22, 2013, 3:08 PM I prefer the 1100 East route for the second phase. This is a high-traffic area that would really benefit from increased non-car connectivity. It seems like adversaries of this option don't understand that the streetcar will not preclude auto traffic; it will simply decrease it. Kyle Deans in District 5 April 22, 2013, 2:43 PM The 1100 East option is the most logical alignment for the future Streetcar extension. I serves a more densely populated area, and ultimately serves more residents, businesses and other destinations, such as Westminster College. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 33 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Westminster has made a serious investment in the Sugarhouse neighborhood, Westminster on the Draw, and other projects will provide housing opportunities for additional students, including the Wilmington Ave Project, the Mecham Project and the Cowboy Partners project. Extending the line north on 1100 East will best serve both the college and the Sugarhouse Business District. The only upside to the 2100 South alignment is that is provides access to Sugarhouse Park. The area east of 13th East is much more suburban in nature (compared to other areas of the city) with no potential for upzoning adjacent to or near the Streetcar line. The proximity of dense population adjacent to 2100 S is much lower than that on 1100 E. 1100 East provides the possibility of upzoning and higher densities as the majority of 1100 East is already zoned commercial. The 1100 East alignment also provides a much more fluid future integration into other existing transit lines, such as the University Trax line. This alignment also provides future connections to the areas of 9th and 9th, Liberty Park, and Trolley Square, all locations with much higher densities, and possibilities of higher densities. Streetcar needs to serve as many people as possible and connect as many destinations as possible in order to be justified and successful, 1100 East provides both of those, while 2100 S does not. Ben Mates in District 7 April 22, 2013, 2:34 PM I favor the following route for extending the Sugar House street car line: east from McClelland St. on Stringham Avenue to 1300 E.; north to 2100 South; east to 2300 E.; north to Foothill Dr.; and north along Foothill Dr. and Mario Capecchi Dr. to the University of Utah's Huntsman Center. This route would link passengers to the Sugar House shopping center, Sugar House Park, Highland High School, businesses along 2100 South, Foothill Village, Research Park, Veterans Hospital, the Huntsman Center, the University of Utah, and University Hospital. It would avoid the already narrow and congested heart of Sugar House on 2100 South west of 1300 East, as well as 1100 East/Highland Drive. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 22, 2013, 12:47 PM Positively east all the way to Foothill drive, there is an absolute dearth of transportation options for east-west travel, this is a no-brainer. Michael Wolfe in District 7 April 22, 2013, 11:50 AM I walk between 1700 So and 2100 So all the time. It takes just 10 minutes to walk the four blocks. There is no need for street cars overhead wires etc on 11th East. I love to walk from my home to the All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 34 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? restaurants shops and pubs. There is no reason why a bus from the streetcar end point to Westminster would not suffice. Westminster students are already walking from On the draw to campus. It is just plain stupid to mess up the street. Put it up 21 south a bigger wider and better option. Name not shown in District 6 April 22, 2013, 11:31 AM Please take it North along 1100 East. Westminster students can make good use of this line. The highland high students already have school buses or parents to provide them transportation. Not so for the college students and they stand to benefit the most from the line. Jane W in District 5 April 22, 2013, 10:46 AM I support better east/west mass transit. Street car and future expansion along 21st south provides the optimal option for the most amount of people, and therefore less cars on the road. I live off of 11th east, smack in the middle of a residential area, and already a crowded street. I have plenty of north/south mass transit options but virtually no east/west options from 9th south to 21st south. Also, the future expansion route to parleys canyon can provide crucial mass transit to commuters, and again provide better east/west connections. Luis Cisneros in District 2 April 22, 2013, 7:41 AM I feel like this is a good idea because people wont be driveing there cars. It will reduce emmissions in the city if people take the street car. And it will be better for slc in the long run. Lynne Olson in District 7 April 21, 2013, 3:50 PM Having attended a multitude of open houses and public meetings about the streetcar extension, I am still ambivalent about which alignment is better for the community. But I know that questions regarding how the streetcar will get through the intersection at 11th & 21st S.,or how it would get from the top of Wilmington or Simpson up to 21st S. can't be answered without an engineering plan. And that can’t be provided until funding is available. And federal funding can’t be awarded until the city has approved a locally preferred alternative. So waiting for a transit master plan (18 months) and for another alternatives analysis to be done (this one took 18 months) could mean waiting three years for this project to start up again. By that time, construction costs will probably have risen, and the developers will be well on their way to completing their projects. I’d wager that both alignments will be included on a transit master plan, so it makes sense to get started with the alternative that has a chance of getting funded right away – 1100 East. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 35 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I am excited to see many of the proposed routes for expansion of the streetcar. I am in support of both the 1100 East and the 2100 South proposals. Both have strengths and I can see benefits to both. As it stands now, with completion of phase I, the streetcar will not reach it's full potential to serve our awesome neighborhood. I am fortunate to live directly on 1100 E and see this as a very positive way to shift some of the volume of cars off of this already overloaded street. Something will absolutely need to be done in the future to decrease traffic and also to lower the speed of traffic through this corridor which also has a large volume of pedestrian traffic. I would also like to comment on the very vocal apposition of the project from a particular business in the neighborhood. This has been very disappointing. To be accosted every time I leave my residence to sign a petition with misinformation like: "11th east will be closed to all car traffic;" or, "11th east will be closed for 5 years and will force our businesses to close" is just simply offensive to anyone educated enough to research the proposals. Please be cautious in interpreting the number of signatures presented in apposition to the 1100 East proposal because they have been obtained through the dissemination of very poor information. I understand fear of change, but let reason and foresight prevail. Jason Cowan in District 7 April 21, 2013, 12:05 PM Please vote to continue the streetcar east, not north on 1100 east. The better option is to continue east to Sugar House Park and Highland High School where there is more room to expand, create less of a disruption in the busy Sugar House area and better serve the city. The expansion north on 11th would hamper activity during construction and due to the width of the road would cause car traffic in the future to be drastically reduced, hurting business. My family and I support the 21st south eastward expansion not the 11th east north expansion. Name not shown in District 6 April 21, 2013, 10:02 AM Please do not dig up 1100 East and convert it for a streetcar line. That section of our beloved Sugar House is way too congested and busy now. Let’s not add more confusion with a streetcar line. A streetcar just provides another option for travel. People are still going to be driving through that area in their cars. The intersection of 1100 East and 2100 South is way too congested, crazy busy, and too narrow to add a streetcar line to it. Let’s enjoy that historic part of our community and encourage walking in that area. If the streetcar has to be extended (oh that I wish it could run parallel to I-80), than let’s run it up 2100 South via Wilmington or Simpson Ave and 1300 East and increase connecting bus routes for use by folks who need to travel to the University of Utah and Westminster College. Placing the streetcar on 2100 South via 1300 East can help support the retail shopping on 1300 East. Thank you for listening to my concerns. Please vote NO on the idea of running a streetcar line on 1100 East to 1700 South. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 36 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I believe that the route east along 2100 south makes the most sense, first to Highland High, then on to the 2100East business area. The connection to the Central Pointe would allow direct access to city center and to the airport. The streetcar along 1100 east to 1700 south leads to the west side of Westminster College but not much else. If that route is developed, it should perhaps be the next area developed. It is an exciting prospect, either way to have a convenient connection to Sugar House. Name not shown in District 6 April 20, 2013, 3:23 PM I would love for the streetcar to extend to Sugarhouse Park, Highland High and eventually down 2100 S. to Foothill. I think this would greatly increase access to, and usefulness of, the transit system. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 19, 2013, 3:33 PM Wow. How does anyone think that the super narrow section of 1100 E. is a good place to jam a trolley car system. It is one of the few "walkable" sections of Sugarhouse now, why mess it up with a trolley car to nowhere? You can't even extend to downtown because 1100 ends at 900 S. and travels through residential areas to get there. Look at the North Temple experience, small business died during construction. You will have a trolley car route to nowhere traveling through shuttered businesses. Why not connect the Sugarhouse business district to Westminster on 13th or up to the Park? Future exspansion is then possible East and South to the Foothill area, mouth of Parley's for public transport up the canyon for recreation, or even South towards the University, Imigration Hogle Zoo, This is The Place, etc. And in the mean time the City is cutting budgets for core services. Wow again. Maggie Shaw in District 7 April 19, 2013, 10:55 AM Whew.. this has been a tough choice. I can see arguments for and against the 11th East alignment and the 21st South alignment. I also have seen and heard a tremendous amount of misinformation being put forth by certain individuals.... issues concerning the construction taking two years, trolley bells will keep residents up at night and other untruths. Change is always hard...but a streetcar system is a change for the better...SO please ignore the lies, look at the ridership numbers and the cost...I want this to work... I want an east side loop to Trax.. either 4th south or Foothill.. or better yet both! I also want a comprehensive transportation plan for the CITY before more streetcar alignments are chosen. But a decision will be made now, and I would like to be part of that choice... I have gone back and forth on this issue... but in the end.. I say put it down 11th East. I believe that will provide the greatest ridership and that neighborhood is a better choice for the streetcar.... Now get a plan for the rest of the project. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 19, 2013, 8:57 AM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 37 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I am very happy that there will be a street car in the Sugar House area, and I am very pleased with the route that is being proposed. I believe that a streetcar is a great way to promote public transportation and will be riding it often. Anders Hart in District 5 April 18, 2013, 11:48 PM The new streetcar line should run from its current terminal point along 2100 South to 1700 East. This extension would carry riders directly to Sugarhouse Park and all of the businesses lining 2100 South, including those in the Hidden Hollow area. Also, this route would allow the streetcar line to be eventually extended along 1300 East past Westminster College and even all the way to the Trax line on 500 South, thereby creating a mass transit loop. Name not shown in District 5 April 18, 2013, 4:43 PM The streetcar would be most useful if it extended north, through the 9th & 9th neighborhood, to connect with TRAX at 400 South. However, running it up 11th East sounds like a nightmare. Why not run it north on 700 East to connect with TRAX on 400 South? Those who argue that a streetcar running north is unnecessary because of existing bus routes are misguided. For better or worse, people will ride a streetcar who wouldn't consider riding a bus. Name not shown in District 7 April 18, 2013, 12:39 PM I adamantly oppose the streetcar line going on 11th East. I live right on 11th East. There is no need a UTA bus has a route down 11th East, and 13th East as well, if the plan is to accommodate Westminster students. I am very concerned about how you'd find room to stuff a streetcar on a fairly narrow road along with 2 lanes of traffic, a bike lane, and parking. Congestion is bad enough as it is, and the area of 11th East being considered is more residential than commercial. Head up to Sugarhouse Park, or the high school, or somewhere else that's actually practical. Name not shown in District 5 April 18, 2013, 10:31 AM The 'streetcar' is just a Trax car that will SHARE a lane with vehicular traffic on an existing public street. It is NOT a separate lane for the streetcar exclusively. The route already under construction makes sense for three reasons: the old railway line already existed and was a perfect unused space, the costs were covered by a federal grant, and the Trax cars are donated from West Valley City. It also makes sense to extend the line just east to Highland Drive and make use of the vacant Deseret Industries property. This could become a hub to join to regular UTA service, running in any and all directions, north on 1100 East, east on Simpson, Wilmington or 2100 South, etc. . All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 38 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? There is just nothing that the streetcar would provide that bus routes cannot do right now with very little cost involved. If student ridership is so important, why not set up a bus route on 1100 East to see what the ridership would be? The Streetcar cannot run at Trax speed on this established road, and would stop at intersections and passenger stops exactly like a bus. This would have the same impact on the traffic lanes as adding more frequent bus service. Why not try an easy test of this before any plans or construction are started? I for myself have NO plans whatsoever to use any of this as it just does not suit my needs. The ridership should be confirmed before tax dollars pay for anything further. Name not shown in District 5 April 17, 2013, 9:53 PM I support the northward extension along 1100 E only if there is the full intent of extending that line further northward through 9th & 9th an on to 4th South. Creating such a loop, and other loops as things expand further, will greatly increase the function & use of mass transit. It will pass through areas where people are likely to make use of it. To have Phase 2 go eastward will greatly disrupt vehicle traffic, is a non-pedestrian friendly route, and won't see nearly as much ridership. An eastward route might may more sense on 13th south to connect to Emigration Market, the Foothill Shopping center, and the Grade Schools near 13th south. Then possibly take it westward on 13th/California Ave as someone previously mentioned. I’d be attending many more Bees games if it went that way. I understand the concern people have about construction. The building construction at the corner of 21 S & 11 E has already made it a mess. That isn’t even road related construction. I can understand how business owners in that area don’t want to deal with another year or two of construction. However, if business owners can not see the long term benefits of such an addition they are very short sighted. The business owners at North Temple for the Airport line had to deal with some pain, but they will now be reaping the benefits. Can you imagine the business increase that Sugarhouse businesses will see from Westminster students (let alone neighborhood residents) stopping in Sugarhouse on their way to & from the college. I don’t understand how the Coffee shop can be against this, so many students will hop off the street car in the morning, grab a coffee, hop back on, & head to school. Students will head into Sugarhouse for lunch, dinner, shopping, etc. when it is a simple streetcar ride away. I’m talking a lot about students, since that’s all the extension to 17th south really serves. It needs to go north the 4th south trax line to truly benefit the community as a whole. The Phase 1 Streetcar line made little sense to me, but to create the loop as described improves the Streetcar’s value 10 times. Name not shown in District 2 April 17, 2013, 9:14 PM I would love to see the streetcar construction follow the recommended plan, as it would both increase and streamline human traffic into and out of Sugarhouse. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 39 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? 1100 East is a better option because it serves more people. The problem with rail transit in the City is that it connects major destinations, but does not currently provide service for most residents of the City. A streetcar along 1100 East connects more people and starts to be about moving the residents of SLC and not about triggering development. Robert A Jones in District 7 April 17, 2013, 12:08 PM Phase 2 of the street car route should go up 11th East to Westminster. This route has the greatest chance of gaining more riders than the less dense area east on 2100 South. Mark Koopman in District 7 April 16, 2013, 5:04 PM I live on 1100 East within the proposed Phase II construction area, and although I am certain it would be a serious inconvenience during the construction, I must endorse the 1100 East option. I feel, though, that everything possible must be done to minimize the impact on our small locally owned businesses during this effort! It would be more expeditious and logical, however, to continue the Phase II work beyond 1700 South during Phase II rather than making the one streetcar line a 3 or 4 phase project. The line should continue north to 900 South, take a left for two blocks, passing through 9th and 9th and take a right on 900 East. The obvious terminus is the TRAX station at 400 South and 900 East. This suggestion embraces three major benefits: 1) it links both ends of the streetcar line to the TRAX network (moving toward a much more flexible system of greater utility), 2) includes streetcar access to both Sugar House and the 9th and 9th, and 3) removes the obstacle of iterative funding struggles. We must, as a community, support mass transit and use it. Have so many people forgotten the inversions of January already? Our society must come to terms with transportation systems that run cleaner than automobiles if we want our city to be vibrant and productive for future decades and generations. Name not shown in District 7 April 16, 2013, 4:25 PM I'm in support of the streetcar plan that would bring it north on 1100 east . A lot of people have already said this but there are so many business along 1100 east that it would be a great way to bring new people to these businesses. There are a lot of great things happening in Sugar House and on 1100 east and I think it would be great to support these efforts. It would also be great to have a way to connect Sugar House and the 9th and 9th businesses. I know the businesses on 1100 east have concerns about "construction" but I haven't heard anything about the street car shutting down 11th and I don't think it will have the dramatic impact during the construction phase that's been mentioned in some of these posts. Longer term it brings more new people to the area which supports local commerce. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 40 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I think that the streetcar is a great option to bring out the community Salt Lake City so desperately needs. The city as a whole could use a neighborhood(Sugar House/ 9th and 9th) that has some character, shops, stores, bars, restaurants, and people. I think that 1300 east would be a better option for the streetcar. 1300 east is wider, goes directly to the University, passes by Sugar House Park, and the Streetcar could be located in one of the three lanes that heads north to the University and Westminster College. There is also enough parking within the Shop-Ko parking lot for UTA to set up a park and ride for University, hospital, and Westminster employees to prevent the horrendous traffic up and down 1300 east during rush hour. That parking lot sits empty most of the day, let's use our resources. By extending the service up to the junction of 2100 south and 1300 east where are also setting ourselves up for a Trax line directly up to Parley's Canyon. As a city we need to think big picture. A streetcar up 1100 east that stops at 1700 south is a waste of money. The streetcar needs to loop back into existing Trax lines and be useful for the long term. Mitra Acharya outside Salt Lake City April 16, 2013, 2:26 PM In lieu of "streetcar"plan;I'm very supportive of construct the along the Westminster college,which evidently help the faculty,and Student at Westminster to efficient access for them without walking,and crossing the street.For crossing street which intermittently stop the commuter traffic in 1300 east in heavily traffic.I think the new idea of street car along the Westminster college will result in more riders then the commuter traffic, efficient and easy access to all the cooperative business in sugar house and refining in our air quality. Stephen Hertz in District 6 April 16, 2013, 3:25 AM if a streetcar goes anywhere else it should go along 2100 south to 1500 East it should not go to Highland Drive at all nothing is on that street right now worth for it to be on Michaela Duong outside Salt Lake City April 15, 2013, 9:06 PM As a supporter of local businesses, I'm not quite sure that I would want the Sugar House Streetcar to even be built... Just recently I went to a little local coffee shop called Sugar House Coffee located on 1100 East 2011 South, where the owner and employees were quite concerned with this new addition to the city. They stated that with the construction of the streetcar, theirs and the entire street's businesses would be shut down for at least two years! Along with random off and on construction afterwards.This would result in the loss of an entire community if the Sugar House Streetcar would be produced. As they asked me to sign their petition for the cause, which I full heartily did, I could see their fright for their coffee shop, the stores around them, and the Sugar House area as well. I ask that the concern and consideration be raised for the residence and people who inhabit or run businesses within Sugar House. Thank you. Name not shown in District 7 April 15, 2013, 4:46 PM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 41 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? It seems that most comments in favor of the 1100 East extension come from Westminster students. Although this route might be the most convenient option for them, I think they should not be considered "locals" for the purposes of the "Local Preferred Option". Rather, those of us who live and work in Sugar House and will be affected by this decision for decades to come should have more heavily weighted input. I think 1100 East is a poor choice. The street is narrow and is already heavily congested. The trolley as well as new development and the proposed "road diet" on Highland drive will only compound the problem. The noise and ground vibration for those who live in the immediate neighborhood are also concerns, as is the use of side streets adjacent to the route for parking. And finally, the end of the line at 1700 South is in area of few businesses and more single family residences as compared to the other options. It makes more sense to route the trolley through existing business areas and east along 21st South. Residents won't be as directly impacted, businesses would profit and the line would serve Sugarhouse Park and Highland High. Westminster students would only have to walk 3 blocks to the trolley stops rather than 2 as in the 1100 East option. Name not shown in District 6 April 15, 2013, 12:41 PM In lieu of creating "a streetcar to nowhere..." we as a community and a city need to decide on a route of the Sugarhouse streetcar that will maximize the greatest number of riders, minimize the number of commuter cars on the road in the heaviest traffic areas, that serves multiple commercial/entertainment destinations and tie into the existing or future mass transit infrastructure. Mass transit availability to the East Bench is sorely inadequate and the commuter traffic on Foothill Blvd is ever burgeoning. I support creating a "LOOP" extending the Sugarhouse streetcar to Sugarhouse Park and onto 2100 South to Highland High, with eventual extension to Foothill Blvd that intersects with a mass transit system running along Foothill Blvd that runs from the suburbs to the University Trax station. This configuration requires that UTA scheduling be optimized to service the greatest number of riders in all directions at key times of the day. In this way, a major East/West service route is established that interconnects to existing infrastructure that services the greatest car traffic number and availability to multiple locations of diverse commercial businesses Name not shown in District 6 April 15, 2013, 12:19 PM I suggest that the route the street car takes is along 1100 East. Yes, that is a narrow street, but we can make it work. 1100 East is a great street to put the street car on because it allows access to many businesses along that street, Westminster just east of the street, and sugarhouse shopping and living area. I think it is the best option. Name not shown in District 5 April 15, 2013, 10:52 AM I'm going to be honest here: I'm not sure I care which direction the street car goes because it will get used with any alignment All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 42 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? that's chosen. Why can't we plan for both and ask for a Bond proposal to fund both lines? And cablecars in the avenues? And a streetcar down 1300 South that connects California Avenue to Liberty Park, the Ball Park and the residents on the east and west sides? We need more of this not less, and whichever alignment will prove to people we need more of this rail development is my preferred option. Name not shown in District 5 April 15, 2013, 10:50 AM As a faculty member at Westminster, I would LOVE to see the line come up 11th East. It would greatly alleviate the traffic congestion immediately around the school, as it would provide a convenient mode of transport for many individuals who now drive and attempt to park in surrounding neighborhoods. In addition, it would further incorporate Westminster into the Sugarhouse community. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 15, 2013, 10:36 AM As an alumna of Westminster College, I would have benefited from easily accessible public transportation closer to campus. The availability of the street car would better serve students who regularly utilize public transportation by enabling them to take more advantage of the resources of the college campus, e.g. the late library hours during finals, computer lab help, etc. Some bus routes only run until mid-evening, which makes commuting to and from campus difficult for students who live further away. I believe the amount of time and money spent implementing this form of public transportation would be worthwhile for Westminster and the larger community. Sarah Pike in District 6 April 15, 2013, 9:20 AM Public transportation is important to Westminster students! Please take the SH Streetcar to Westminster! Name not shown in District 7 April 15, 2013, 8:39 AM I suggest the 21st south route for extension. I do not like the 11th east option because that street is already narrow. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 43 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? What a waste of resources. This project will only further disrupt the already terrible traffic on 1100 East & 2100 South. Local businesses will suffer during construction and afterward as well. Potential customers will simply drive there cars to a big box store where they can find ample parking and easy access. Jessica Bowen in District 7 April 13, 2013, 9:09 PM As a student at Westminster College, I can guarantee that if the Sugar House Streetcar ran along the 1100 E route, the students here would use it with incredible frequency! Right now, students already spend a great deal of time in the shopping/dining areas of Sugar House, and in the warmer months, we spend lots of time at Sugar House Park as well! Beyond the Sugar House area, this would give Westminster students a much-needed transportation resource to come back from downtown (the current modes of public transportation are rather inconvenient, and this would help a lot!) Having this streetcar on 1100 E would not only make public transportation simpler and faster, it would be extremely valuable in connecting Westminster students with the community of Sugar House and Salt Lake City. Name not shown in District 5 April 13, 2013, 6:13 PM I think it is essential to consider the growth of the community as a whole. Westminster College is wellknown for producing world-class leaders in every field imaginable, for giving back to the community, and for being the "expensive" choice in Utah. I would like to clarify that as a Utahan, I attended Westminster on scholarship and would have loved to have the opportunity to have easier access to the school/community. There are several students who live in the Southern and Northern end of the valley who are practically required to drive to school each and every day because the current routes for UTA are not easily accessible and are at terribly inconvenient times. I would like to urge the community to consider bringing the Sugar House Streetcar closer to a world class college rather than further east. I am not saying it wouldn't be nice to have both, but I cannot see how this wouldn't be the best partnership between UTA, the city, and Westminster College to open more opportunities for commuter students, for residential students without cars, and for the environment as a whole. Jeff Collins in District 6 April 13, 2013, 11:38 AM I would like to point out that the street car would ride in the same lane as traffic, so the width of 1100 East is not as much of an issue as you might think. The route 1100 East also runs through a much more densely populated area and passes by Westminster College, which would give it a lot more ridership, especially since Westminster brings in many out-of-state students that do not own cars. I think the 1100 East route will be much more beneficial to our neighborhood. Brandon Lloyd in District 5 April 13, 2013, 11:29 AM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 44 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Sugar House is growing, but in which direction? The city’s streetcar project is a vital component to the growth of Sugar House. Phase I of the project will directly connect Sugar House to the TRAX Central Pointe Station, but future phases could possibly unite this eclectic yet energetic borough of Salt Lake City to much more. Mayor Ralph Becker’s administration, many community members, and many Westminster College students all agree that continuing the Sugar House Streetcar down 1100 East is the best option for the community. Continuing the streetcar down 1100 East allows for growth and both short-term and long-term benefits that will last well into the future. The streetcar could one day travel north to connect to the 9th & 9th business district, go passed Trolley Square, and then go onto 4th South and downtown or the “U” all while creating foot traffic for businesses along the way. The 1100 East proposal has already been dubbed “Purple Line SLC” by all of us students at Westminster who would love to see an easier and greener way to get to the jobs and shopping in the center of Salt Lake. Continuing the streetcar down 1100 East is the most economical way to do that. Plus it just makes sense. There has been misinformation that the Streetcar would shut down businesses along 1100 East for up to a year due to the construction like what happened with TRAX downtown. However, this isn’t a TRAX line and this certainly isn’t downtown. Streetcars can be built in 1-2 weeks per block and then move to the next section. Construction time is quick and city officials are willing to work with businesses to assure that the street is not fully shut down and that there is minimal impact. Small and unique businesses are what make Sugar House such a wonderful place to live, work, and play, and no one wants that to go away. Minor and short-term construction down 1100 East will bring way to substantial and long-term benefits to both residents and business owners. Some want to continue the streetcar up 2100 South, but who will you be reaching? High school students with little to no money to spend that have just gotten their drivers licenses and want to drive. Not to mention all of the rezoning because nearly every house along 2100 South is residential. Sugar House Park may seem like a nice place to take the streetcar, but when The Draw under 1300 East is complete it will connect the Parley’s Trail and allow for easy biking and walking between the heart of Sugar House and Sugar House Park. A few would like to see the streetcar move up Wilmington or Simpson avenues, but then where will it go? Onto 1300 East or into Sugar House Park? Would it not just be easier to walk the one block east to 13th? There are no future possibilities if the city council chooses this route. When you look at the facts, continuing the Sugar House Streetcar down 1100 East and then beyond is the best option for Sugar House and its many residents. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 45 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? It adds more to the economic growth of Sugar House and the surrounding areas while helping to keep fewer cars on the road and our air a little cleaner. Choosing 1100 East as the place to continue the Sugar House Streetcar will keep businesses growing and help keep the skies blue. Help make Purple Line SLC down 1100 East a reality by joining me at the Sugar House Streetcar Public Hearing on April 23 at 7 PM in the City and County Building. Make Sugar House a better place by coming out in support, and don’t forget to wear your purple! Name not shown in District 1 April 12, 2013, 9:31 PM I think that if they add more tracks or streetcars on 1100 East and 1700 south, it will create more and more traffic. 2100 South is already good as it is, but I also think that extending it would be good too, because that way my sister could take the tracks to highland instead of getting dropped off there. This would save money and gas for us. Name not shown in District 7 April 12, 2013, 5:21 PM I understand at upcoming city council meetings that there will be talk about providing a bike/ walking lane and I honestly feel that putting the Street car on 11th east going only 4 blocks north is counter intuitive to that idea of exercise. I live on 10th east so I know first hand how extremely crazy 11th east gets! It's already ridiculous and adding a street car there would just be plain dangerous. That street is so narrow and I could see lots of accidents happening! Honestly, I would recommend not putting an extension on that street car already in place. Very unnecessary. There is no need to cause even more traffic in the sugar house area. Why not just leave the trax stop where it's already planed to stop at and leave it at that. All options are not worth the extra traffic to the intersections where it is already way to crowded. One more thing, the route option on this map being proposed are only a matter of 4 blocks. Well within walking distance and not worth the extra tax expenses. Name not shown in District 5 April 12, 2013, 10:09 AM Of the two proposed options for the track expansion, I think expanding the line along 2100 South is the best choice. 1100 East is far too narrow as it is now and the traffic that moves through there is so great, to make it less accessible would be a mistake. 2100 South is a well-traveled road and it's a fairly large road, so laying down tracks there would be easy and would probably take away some of the congestion. It's a great central point in Sugar House, especially if you work in that area or are a student who attends one of the nearby schools: East, Highland, Westminster. 2100 South is by far the best option. Name not shown in District 6 April 11, 2013, 3:26 PM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 46 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I would like it to go east on 2100 South. Our office is on 2100 south and getting more people east and close to the park would be a huge asset to the city. The park is so beautiful and getting access to it by rail would be huge. 1100 east is not wide enough and 2100 has the room. Name not shown in District 5 April 11, 2013, 11:52 AM Please run the streetcar near Westminster College! It would mean a lot to all of our students and faculty members, because as of now environmentally friendly and reliable public transportation is challenging for us to come across. Greg Goldberg in District 7 April 10, 2013, 9:44 PM I agree with those who say there is no room left on 1100 East, north of 2100 South, to even drive easily, let alone add a streetcar there. Adding a section to go north to the monument, along that portion of Highland Drive, is tight enough, the same as if going north on 1100 East. I also agree with others about first finding out how successful the current Sugar House streetcar plan will be with its ridership. I'm not as familiar as others regarding an east bound line along 2100 South. Scott Kisling in District 7 April 9, 2013, 1:35 PM Thank you for the opportunity to speak out. Though I am all for quick progress when it comes to public transportation, I think we need to slow this train down until we know better how a continuation of the Sugar House Streetcar line will fit into a City-wide plan. The Wasatch Front Regional Council's transportation map, adopted only two years ago, shows enhanced bus service along Foothill Drive and up Parleys Canyon toward Park City, but I believe we'll need rail transportation in both areas long before 2040, like we had a hundred years ago. Growth in Summit and the southern part of Salt Lake County continues to put pressure on an already overcapacity Foothill Drive and the most likely Park City corridor would require only one bridge to cross I80 if we act there reasonably soon, keeping costs manageable. It appears that our air quality is deteriorating faster than projected and I don't expect state legislative action that would allow us to combat the problem with tighter standards anytime soon, so the fastest way to improve our air quality (and stop losing jobs to states with cleaner air) is to build rail eastward. That, of course, favors the continuation of the Sugar House streetcar east along 2100 South before expanding north, though both will eventually be needed. A line along 2100 South would boost development in the corridor between 20th East to the City limits; an area prime for redevelopment but which is not growing fast enough in population to support it without a transportation influx. Sincerely, All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 47 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Scott Kisling Leslie Brown in District 6 April 9, 2013, 11:20 AM I'm a Westminster Student, and it would mean a lot to our students to bring the Sugar House Streetcar as close to Westminster's campus as possible. We are highly conscious of our environmental impact, and it's bizarre and frustrating how hard it is for us to rely on public transportation. What is potentially most frustrating is getting downtown, which is particularly important for internships among students, and taking this line further north on eleventh seems like the natural second step. This would mean a HUGE impact for us. PLEASE BRING THE CAR CLOSE TO OUR CAMPUS! Name not shown in District 7 April 9, 2013, 10:55 AM I am in a situation much like the student below me. I am also an out-of-state Westminster student, and though I do have a car, I try to use TRAX as much as possible (if members of the community were unaware, Westminster students get free, unlimited TRAX use with tuition). I personally think that the streetcar should run on 11th east. With new Sugarhouse development coming at a rapid pace, I think that it will only serve residents more effectively. However, I propose that a new study be conducted on traffic in that area (2100 S & 1100 E), because that could be a huge deterrent. There is a great deal of research to be conducted here before anything gets put into place. However, if done correctly, the final plans will lead to Sugar House and all of Salt Lake City becoming a cohesive unit and an easy, efficient resource for residents and tourists. Name not shown in District 7 April 9, 2013, 9:54 AM I would really like for the Streetcar to go near Westminster College. I know many students and faculty who would use the Streetcar and would be most appreciative of the route going near our college. I would love to be able to take visitors on the streetcar as I show them Salt Lake City (I am from outof-state and have many visitors come to see me and my school). Also, with a route that goes farther east on 2100 south, many people would gain access to great places like the Sugar House movie theater, Sugar House Coffee, Central Book Exchange, the Soup Kitchen, Barnes and Noble, Michael's, Nordstrom Rack, Olive Garden, and more. Not to mention the gained access to the beautiful campus of Westminster College and the gorgeous Sugar House Park! I think it would be a terrible mistake to have the Streetcar route miss out on this essential area of Sugar House! Name not shown in District 5 April 6, 2013, 9:08 PM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 48 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? Up to 1100 E/ Highland Dr. North to 2100 S up 2100 S to 1500 E turn left at 1500 east keep going until 900 S. Turn right at 900 S. Turn left at Guardsman way. North to the U. Now that makes sense! (Won't happen). Chuck Krivanek in District 7 April 6, 2013, 8:54 PM I will ride this street car to connect to other routes. I was just discussing with my boys today that I will be able to take this straight to the airport once it is operational. To me, that is a huge part of why I live in Sugarhouse, Utah. The more we connect, the better we can travel. As someone has mentioned, with the new development in Sugarhouse, congestion will (who would have thunk?) become an issue. The more options people have for transportation to and from, the better. Long-term? Free Zones like downtown, where people park at one UTA station and can travel free into the area. And spend lots of money. Maybe businesses need to fully understand the impact. Douglas MacLean in District 6 April 6, 2013, 6:56 PM I believe the streetcar route should be eastbound. The 11th East option is far to narrow and the congestion at the monument shows the intersection is already failing. I would have it go at least to 21st East in the second phase Name not shown in District 6 April 5, 2013, 7:55 PM I am completely against extending the route in any direction. Removing traffic lanes will make a bad situation untenable. Already, 21 South/13 East and 21 South/11 East intersections are in near gridlock. This situation can only worsen with the population density added when the Sugar House "hole" construction is completed. I live off 19 East and need to be able to drive to the Sprague library and Smith's and Fiddler's. I cannot afford the high cost of TRAX and do not want to lug books or heavy groceries several blocks from a TRAX line to my house. Like the majority of Sugar House residents, I need to DRIVE in my neighborhood to shop and dine. While a streetcar line may help those going to and from work or school, it will be a nightmare for the majority of Sugar House residents. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 5, 2013, 4:25 PM As a native Utahn and Westminster College student, I believe the Streetcar needs to travel along 1100 east. A significant group of Sugar House community members--including students--do not have access to cars. The recommended 1100 east Streetcar would connect community members to many Sugar House shopping areas, and eventually connect to the 9th and 9th area as well as Downtown. The 1100 east route is the obvious choice. I urge the community to see the value this line would bring to Sugar House. Thank you. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 49 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I don't think that any local, state, federal funds and/or energy should be expended on future planning until the current basic trolley route has been in operation for a test-run period and it's viability is determined. Things like speed of travel, ridership, true cost of maintenance & operations (not just planning estimates), impacts on major thoroughfare traffic like State St. & 700E road crossings need to be determined before any expansion plans & routes are formalized. I think it's too early to be talking 5-10-15 year expansion plans until we're sure we have an effective system to build on. Chad Mullins outside Salt Lake City April 4, 2013, 12:31 PM I agree with the comments supporting the line going east since that is the area most under served by public transit. However, I also think that a study is needed to determine the route that would best serve the needs of the east side and the University of Utah. The University is the largest traffic generator and adds to the congestion on Foothill Boulevard. It is important to develop a transportation plan that will alleviate congestion on Foothill and provide more transit and alternative transportation choices to serve the University campus. Jacquie Bernard in District 5 April 4, 2013, 12:26 PM I think the streetcar should go North, along 1100 East in order to connect with the 9th and 9th neighborhood and TRAX on 400 South. However, it makes no sense at all to build it half-way, stopping at 1700 South. Very few riders will want to take a streetcar halfway to their eventual destination and then, what? Look for a bus? We should wait until we have enough funds to complete the route before extending TRAX in either direction. Name not shown in District 7 April 3, 2013, 9:29 PM I think that Charlie Luke's plan for an easterly extension from Sugar House makes the most sense. I live in Sugar House and daily experience the congestion found at the very narrow intersection of 2100 South and 1100 East and cannot imagine that adding a streetcar along 1100 East to 1700 South would improve the situation. Both Highland High and Westminster students would be well served by an eastbound line from Sugar House, preferably one that eventually connects to Foothill (another extremely busy commuter avenue) and then moves north to the University. Sabrina Scott in District 5 April 3, 2013, 9:04 PM Of course you know that we must connect SHBD to 9th&9th and eventually on to the 4th South Trax All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 50 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? line. The north route begins that process in earnest. I agree with other commenters who stated the greater potential immediate benefit of the 2100 So line (east) up/down the hill. Many of us are simply waiting on something better in the way of public transit to finally become habitual users. Easy multimodal transitions are key. Both of these routes should be planned to their logical and most efficient outcomes. I would personally enjoy using the north line more but I believe the east line shows a more immediate need and greater potential benefit in the near term. Best wishes! Richard Middleton in District 3 April 3, 2013, 7:13 PM This looks like another Beckerism. How did we get to the point of building a streetcar line without any clear understanding of where it would go? Are slow street cars, stopping frequently in shopping areas, a viable option for commuting? Even if the intention is to make it prohibitively difficult to use a car in the Sugarhouse area, is there really a market for multi-mode travel (especially after factoring in peripheral parking costs in addition to transit fares)? Will the future direction of this project really depend in any way on inputs from a relatively few citizens - who don't have a stake in its financial viability? These questions should have been asked ahead of the consultants' study, and reflected when framing the study terms of reference. Inviting public inputs at this late stage suggests that the process is essentially a sham. Either that, or Becker really doesn't know why he built the first bit, and now is trying to get someone to provide justification. Becky Petersen outside Salt Lake City April 3, 2013, 5:29 PM I agree with R. Barth. Have the streetcar run up 21st South to Foothill and then connect to the University of Utah. The East side has few options to use the mass transit that they pay higher property tax rates to provide and the rest of the city enjoys. Name not shown in District 6 April 3, 2013, 4:12 PM As a former Westminster student and resident of the area close to the proposed 1100 East/1700 South route, and a current resident to the East bench of the city, I can see the benefits of both lines. Yet, I have to side with Charlie Luke's feelings regarding the 2100 South route. http://us1.campaignarchive2.com/?u=ecf0d6a5933b3483c6020dbe6&id=4d8d9bb76b&e=13dda9d5e5 The East side it tragically undeserved in public transit and this would be a welcome addition to the neighborhood. I know many of my neighbors, myself included, who would love to choose to be more green in how we move about the city, but the resources just aren't there. Most notably, in regards to biking and walking, it's simply just hard to get up the the hill. An east running street car would benefit many people who would like to move about the city by bicycle but are intimidated by the upward journey home. From personal experience those that live below the fault line are more prone to journey All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 51 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? about the city on foot or bike because it's simply easier. The walk/bike ride into Sugar House from 1700 South is hardly a stretch for many people, but getting yourself home to 1700 East can be quite a task. The proposed eastward routes mentioned in Luke's statement would better serve a population of the city ready and willing to make the choice to leave their cars at home. Name not shown in District 5 April 3, 2013, 9:08 AM I believe the most practical extension would be (eventually) to the University of Utah, creating a loop around the city (between TRAX and the streetcar). Connecting downtown to Sugarhouse and both Westminster College and the "U" would create a viable transportation alternative for many. Also, taking the line along 1100 East would bring riders close to the 9th & 9th Business District, and help build the "Canal Business District" along 1100 East. Hugh Johnson in District 7 April 3, 2013, 8:02 AM There are only 2 things that TRAXX and the Sugarhouse Streetcar bring to the area where they are located: CRIME AND DEATH. How many fatalities do we have to have every year before Mayor Becker and the City Council realize that the TRAXX system is a failure? Auto burglaries, robberies, assaults are rampant at all park and ride lots and TRAXX stations. UTA even has it's own police force, but can't seem to do anything about crimes committed on their property. Now criminals and thieves can steal car stereos at central point station, then take the Sugarhouse Streetcar east and break into more cars there., GREAT IDEA! Please stop destroying Sugarhouse! If you want a streetcar have it run down 3rd avenue or up I street, so you can experience years of inconvenience to your travels, the destruction of historic buildings and the crime and graffiti which follow - DESTROY YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD NOT MINE!!! Scott Christensen in District 2 April 3, 2013, 7:25 AM I have to agree with those who have negative comments towards the Street Car project. This is a big goose egg idea. Street Cars and Trolleys were removed for a reason. Maybe those in charge should look through the records and remember why they were removed. Trax/street car in general cost more than they are worth. It costs hundreds of dollars worth of electricity every trip it will make from the main line up through Sugar House. It will never pay for itself. I'm no environmentalist either. There are several Coal fired power plants in Utah belching out tons of pollutants to keep electricity coming to these toys. This is what happens when liberal ideas meet money (real or perceived). Stop this project now before more money is wasted. It will never have enough ridership to pay for it. Your ticket to ride will cost you a small fortune very soon. Trax already keeps going up. I cannot justify the cost anymore. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 52 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I would like to see a transportation system that has planning before they build and later consider effects and benefits. The largest traffic draw in West Valley City is the Community College and the train doesn't go there. The majority of people don't ride mass transportation to shop . The density of housing along the Sugarhouse route is low and zoning near will not see density ever (except Main St-State St) And the system is ugly, Red, White and Blue graphic outside and Blue and Red interiors, Who is that supposed to appeal to? I would like to see the demographics and masterplan for the routes first. Robert Barth in District 4 April 2, 2013, 10:04 PM I am in favor of the streetcar route running east on 21st South, eventually to Parley's Way and Foothill. This route would serve many more neighborhoods and run directly in front of several new high-density developments that are in progress now. TRAX might someday run along Foothill and out Wasatch Blvd to Cottonwood heights and "upper Sandy" and the streetcar would serve as an ideal feeder line. Westminster would not be directly served but it would only be about a 4 block walk away along 13th East. Name not shown in District 7 April 2, 2013, 9:59 PM Go north on 1100E, this would feed current businesses along 1100 and develop new ones. Would eventually connect to 9th/9th and the U trax line. For all the fears about traffic congestion...think of famous, well attracted sites in other cities. Seattle Pike's Market, Times Square NYC, San Diego Gaslamp District. They are crowded and not easy to drive through but they are wonderful places that people pay big $ to live near. If you want less congestion then go move to a freeway onramp. Michael Christensen in District 1 April 2, 2013, 5:43 PM I like both scenarios, but I prefer the northern route, as I would like priority given to connecting Sugar House, Westminster College, and the University of Utah. However, I would really like for Salt Lake City to develop a comprehensive plan for a future city-wide streetcar system. Portland completed their plan in 2009. It's a great example for Salt Lake City to follow and can be downloaded here: http://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/article/321180 (12 mb PDF) Richard Madsen in District 7 April 2, 2013, 5:34 PM You should have figuerd that out befor you started. Spend more money the tax payers have some left. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 53 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I like the idea of going East on 2100 South and eventually to Foohill Blvd. to connect to Trax at the U of U. Thomas Tischner in District 5 April 2, 2013, 4:27 PM The Mayor and the entire council should pack up and move to NYC or San Francisco where they would feel right at home and be out our hair. They are creating a city so gridlocked as to be completely disfunctional while at the same time costing residents more and more time and money. This whole streetcar concept is ludicrous at best and most likely be a massive disaster. Jody Rosenblatt in District 4 April 2, 2013, 3:44 PM Me likey. I think that Sugar House currently isn't linked in as well with the rest of the downtown and what prevents me from going out southward more often is getting in the car. I avoid cars like the plague and think we should all given how horrid and dangerous the air has been of late. Big thumbs up for this idea. Name not shown in District 7 April 2, 2013, 2:36 PM I agree with the statement that called this Streetcar named desire (by the administration and a few self-appointed mass transit elitists) a joke. It is costing us a fortune and will continue to do so in perpetuity. The mayor's push to put a bicycle in every yard for every person is going to make it impossible for businesses in the SH area to conduct business by pushing away those who prefer to drive to a business. Those people will shop elsewhere. I've always thought it would be interesting to put a tiny GPS devise somewhere on all persons who claim that walking, mass transit and bicycles are the way to go. I'd like the devise on those supporters for a minimum of two months without their knowledge and a map created showing where they go on their bikes or by transit or by foot and how many times they do so compared to how many times they use their car or talk a friend who has a car into taking them places. Name not shown in District 5 April 2, 2013, 2:26 PM My support goes to the north on 11th East option. I would hope this would connect the 9th and 9th area and ultimately the University line. Sugarhouse Park is a quick walk from 11th East. Name not shown in District 7 April 2, 2013, 1:21 PM I would be thrilled to be able to take my dog on leash to sugarhouse and thence to the Tanner's Park All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 54 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? for a fun outing any day of the week. Fairmont Park would be a great destination for those coming from the East. Picnics, sports, and wonderful walks (with my dog). Thanks for integrating local needs with tourist and commercial/shopping needs. Name not shown in District 7 April 2, 2013, 1:14 PM i would like to see the streetcar run up 11 East to 1700 South. I believe the residential and retail mix of 11 East will be more conducive to the on/off streetcar transportation. With the new pedestrian path and tunnel to Sugarhouse park there will be easy access (2 block walk) to Sugarhouse park from the Intersection of Highland drive and 2100 South. I think Westminster students and staff will be more likely to use the streetcar around the clock compared to Highland high students, who already have great bus service running up and down 2100 South. Name not shown in District 4 April 2, 2013, 1:11 PM Take the streetcar up 11th east to Westminster. Eventually connect to 9th and 9th and to the University TRAX. Will have a true circulator around the City. Connecting Sugarhouse to 9th and 9th and U of U would increase ridership. D Christian Harrison in District 4 April 2, 2013, 1:01 PM I love that my City is fully committed to supporting a broad range of transportation alternatives, and I'm especially excited for our City to have a renewed network of streetcars connecting Sugar House to the U and Downtown; 9th & 9th to Liberty Park, Central 9th, and West 9th; and all of them to each other. Of course, there's a good deal of time between now and that as-yet-unknown day… and the devil will be in how we make that transition — how will we build the various segments in a way that not only serves current riders but also is a clear signal to developers and the broader community for where the network is going. Both of the alternatives outlined have their strengths: - The 11th East alternative takes us north, towards the U, immediately. It also uses 1100 East, which is not only less congested than 1300 East, it also sports more businesses. Moreover, it has the benefit of better serving the Westminster community — an important source for ridership. - The 21st South alternative extends the line to an immediate community amenity, Sugar House Park and better serves the Highland High ridership base. While it doesn't point intuitively north to the U All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 55 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? (our eventual destination), it does point decidedly to Foothill and the transit options there. Of the two, though, I must tip my hat to the 2100 South alternative (and, specifically, the alignment suggested by Charlie Luke)… here's why: - 2100 South currently has more businesses, and the businesses are more linearly aligned along the length of the course between Sugar House and Foothill. - The distance between the current terminus and Foothill — where an immediate link to the U currently exists — is significantly shorter than the distance we'd have to travel along 1100 East to reach a similar link to the U (400 South). This means it would cost less to connect to the U from Sugar House in the short term. - Sugar House Park is a wonderful community amenity that would immediately see more use — and an immediate return on investment for the park could be captured. - The East Bench is woefully underserved by transit, and this extension would begin to address this problem. - One of the issues that casual bicyclists have is navigating the significant grade change from the valley floor to the top of the East Bench — by going up 2100 South, the Street Car would immediately open up more of the City to casual bicyclists by making the up-hill segment of an east-west journey easier. - Finally, additional segments to a 2100 South extension wouldn't have to be very long to accrue significant ridership benefits — whereas future extensions to an 1100 East extension would necessarily have to be significantly longer to accrue similar benefits. --An aside: the one area that I'm curious about that isn't addressed here is our aging community — I believe fervently in making it possible for our neighbors to "age in place". Convenient and predictable transit options such as light rail and streetcars are an important part of the mix of services needed for that to happen. So I'd be interested in seeing the numbers for the density of older neighbors within a two block radius of the two extensions. I have a hunch that the 21st South extension might also win on this one, too (though, even if it didn't, I'd still be in favor of 21st South to 11th East). Name not shown in District 5 April 2, 2013, 12:57 PM If we are taking a short-term view, then I think the line running North of 1100 East make sense. This could ultimately run into 400 S. and connect with the U of U. I think it would make more sense to run this extension along 2100 S. and Sugarhouse park. Long-term, you would be serving a larger "drivein" burb of SLC by running this extension up to Foothill and eventually the U of U. Granted, this may take a decade, but then you have two seperate transportation nodes at the U of U (East and South campus,) and your encompassing a larger portion of the metro area. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 56 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? If you’ve ever been to San Francisco, you’ll note that street cars act very much like cars or busses except they don't turn much. Both routes are viable. Moving north provides eventual conductivity to existing Trax line way in the future. Slower traffic along 11th East might be a good thing for a residential neighborhood in the long run. 2100 South is only a one sided street with the park on the south. This route provides increased access for many community activities to a most wonderful location in the park. Either path that is chosen, the City Fathers would then need to consider zoning changes, tax incentives or pocket projects that encourage development along either route North or East. Changes are inevitable and planning is the key. This is a very slow process and painful to some. Jump on take a ride! Sally Miller in District 7 April 2, 2013, 12:51 PM I'm in favor of taking the line up 21st. Ideally it would go to Foothill. Thank you to the mayor and council for your continued support of alternative transit. Lorrin P Colby Jr in District 7 April 2, 2013, 12:43 PM I'm split on this, I personally would benefit from the trolly going to the Brickyard Shopping Center, either by way of 13th East or Highland Drive however, I think that Westminster should have a connection too as I believe all colleges in the valley should have a train connection not just the bus. Name not shown in District 5 April 2, 2013, 12:32 PM I don't think that the Sugar House Streetcar's final destination should be anywhere else besides the semi-urban intersection of 11th and 21st in Sugar House, period. An added route north would make 11th East non-drivable and divert traffic to already-busy 9th East and 13th East, while also burdening quiet residential streets in the area with drivers looking for shortcuts. Also, the proposed east route on 21st South would greatly exacerbate the problems of the nightmare intersection of 21st South and 13th East. And to what end? Let's face it, unlike the U of U with its Trax line, Highland High and Sugar House Park are not big, important destinations that would make such an expensive and disruptive undertaking worth it. As for the temptation of servicing east side neighborhoods, the reason these suburban neighborhood even exist is because of the automobile. Discouragingly, Salt Lake motorists, like Los Angelenos, will continue to drive cars in increasing numbers for the foreseeable future. So in that real scenario, only urban-to-urban destinations make sense for trains and streetcars. Salt Lake once had a viable streetcar system that serviced residential neighborhoods. But, sadly, our political leaders clumsily blew that wonderful asset and it's a little late to try to bring it back. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 57 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? I am very supportive of the streetcar and look forward to a city that is more connected. I am concerned about how we link our neighborhoods to our business district that are based upon travelling by car. I do not believe that density is the best predictor of viability. Rather, I think in order for this streetcar to be successful it needs to coexist with our residential areas and the businesses. A streetcar needs to have destination points and I believe an east route up 2100 S provides more destination points with higher potential ridership. Moving people to those destination points is a major component of mass transit. I realize predicting ridership for an unknown entity such as Sugar House Park is difficult, however it deserves a value. Additionally, there are businesses on the north side of the street and other business nodes further east. I would like it eventually connect up to the University of Utah. By providing an alternate trax/streetcar route to the U may help take some pressure off Foothill as well as become a major destination. With only one access point on rail to the U via 400 S has severe limitations. The neighborhoods east of 1300 E are underserved by transit options and have very little options in heading to the core business district but to drive. My number one priority in this debate is to protect monument plaza. Whatever route the streetcar takes it should not be dependent upon taking up monument plaza. I believe our community is better served to see a pedestrian plaza and I am confident that the city can engineer an alternative that makes the streetcar work for either route and not interfere with a potential pedestrian plaza. Name not shown in District 7 April 2, 2013, 11:50 AM This street car was shoved down our throats in spite of any objection or questions raised. The cost is outrageous, but it doesn't matter...its done. Will people ride it? Most likely, but its not Trax...its not fast. The powers that be are going to shove the route where ever they want it, and claim it was the will of the people...all in the name of progress. Didn't they already dig a tunnel underneath Highland? Maybe that is still "in progress" Run the train up to that, or through that tunnel, make it bigger if you have to. That would keep the already over crowded streets around 1300 East and 2100 South as they are now...no lane reduction to make room the the train would be required. If this whole load of government project is going to have to happen in spite of objections, it should go all out. Waste...I mean spend...as much money as possible. Make sure the route will eventually connect to some Trax train thing that runs up Parley's to Park City/Heber City. Also force it down the throats of the elite east-enders along Foothill Blvd. so we'd have a North-South option on the east side as well. Then, since it will already be at Kimball Junction....continue it on to Evanston. Then figure out a route to the various State/National Parks that are in the south. Moab...etc. why stop with just the SL valley? Don't forget to extend the route West to Wendover as well. Name not shown in District 5 April 2, 2013, 11:16 AM I am all for public transportation, but I am concerned that with these Street Car plans and now the new plans for Bike lanes that reduction traffic lanes and some turning lanes will make Sugarhouse a All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 58 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? grid lock area for cars. Can you imagine 2100 South (a major street) reduced from 4 lanes to 2 lanes and some turning lanes no longer available? No for it. I do agree that the Streetcar needs to go further close towards the ShopKo center and Sugarhouse Park. I think going North along 1100 East to Westminster is the logically choice for ridership numbers. Not certain what additional individuals from the Highland High School area will use the Streetcar in large numbers. Name not shown in District 7 April 2, 2013, 11:13 AM I believe 11th East is too narrow to accomodate the streetcar plus auto traffic. I would prefer the streetcar go along 21st South to Parley's Way and end at the Walmart area by Foothill Drive. From there riders could take a bus up Foothill that would lead to TRAX at the University completing the circuit. Ideally TRAX should be on Foothill but that would be decades away. Also the fares should be reasonable. I believe UTA is shooting itself in the foot with the new high fares that make it cheaper and more convenient to drive. The fewer cars the less air pollution. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 2, 2013, 10:01 AM I am all for public transportation. But not this .I call it the train to nowhere. I live on 2000 south. I would have to walk 3 blocks. 1 block I can get the bus. Why would I want to go to the old Granite furniture warehouse. What a waste of money. Should have never been started without a final plan and destination. We need a Mayor and city counsel that knows how to wisely spend our money. They have to much time on there hands. Thank you Name not shown in District 5 March 30, 2013, 9:54 AM Putting a streetcar line on 1100 East is a terrible idea. The street, north of 2100 South, is only 2 lanes wide and very congested. Once the condos/stores on the 'sugarhole' site open, congestion will be much worse. It's already hard to get to the post office and other businesses. As I get older, I realize that Mayor Becker's push to get everyone on bikes or public transportation just isn't feasible for everyone. Please stop this absurd idea before it goes any further! Name not shown in District 6 March 30, 2013, 7:57 AM I am adamantly opposed to the streetcar being extended to 1700 East. 2100 South between 1700 and 1300 East is already so congested that both morning and afternoon traffic blocks almost the All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 59 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Streetcar proposal Where would you like the Sugar House Streetcar to take you? entire stretch. All we need is a streetcar line through there to add to this mess. As I understand it, one of the primary the purposes of the streetcar is transit oriented development. On that basis, it makes more sense to run the line north towards Westminster College to maintain momentum in redeveloping the Sugar House business district west of 1300 East. Name not shown in District 6 March 29, 2013, 6:19 PM I definitely believe the Streetcar should extend to 1700 East along 2100 South. However, for the reasons Charlie Luke has outlined, I think the alternative route should be considered. Name not shown in District 6 March 29, 2013, 5:51 PM The streetcar route should continue east to 1700 E 2100 E. The proximity of Sugar House Park, Highland High School, the businesses along 2100 S, and the diversity of expansion opportunities east and north make this eastern route the best alternative. While the north route would move the streetcar closer to Westminster College, an eastern route would make only a 2-3 block walk from 2100 S and provide none of the benefits listed above. Finally, the east bench is woefully underserved by UTA. City Councilman Charlie Luke also makes a convincing case for this route here: http://us1.campaignarchive2.com/?u=ecf0d6a5933b3483c6020dbe6&id=4d8d9bb76b&e=13dda9d5e5 All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:41 AM Page 60 of 60 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1231 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 1 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? Introduction The Salt Lake City Planning Division is seeking your input on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line. The streetcar is proposed to be operational in late 2013. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 2 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM, this forum had: Attendees: 480 Participants: 54 Hours of Public Comment: 2.7 54 participants posted comments All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 3 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? Duncan Campbell in District 7 April 29, 2013, 8:02 AM I think that the streetcar would be a great addition to sugarhouse, if we use it properly. Like if we substitute it for driving and take the streetcar instead, that would result in less traffic, and people travel into sugarhouse regardless of the streetcar so I don't think that it would make that area more crowded than it already is. I say put the streetcar in! Name not shown in District 6 April 26, 2013, 3:40 PM I oppose the idea of putting street car in Sugar House with the following reasons: 1. Sugar House is an affluent area, we don't want any more unnecessary crowds, construction and traffic mess being added to the already small streets and quite/peaceful living area. 2. Street car will just devalue property values. Imagine the noise and rattle it creates, air polution, and crimes from people who don't live in the neighborhood. 3. Salt Lake City is not New York City where it's so congested that public transportation is highly needed. Salt Lake City is a small affluent unique town, especially the east area (Foothill, East bench, Sugar House) LEAVE the way it is. 4. Unnecessary tax spending. The money can be used for improving public school system. What a waste of money putting into the street cars where it will ruin the charm of Sugar House. Name not shown in District 7 April 23, 2013, 1:36 PM I am strongly opposed to the plan to extend the Sugarhouse "modern streetcar" north down 11th east. This opposition is based on a number of factors: 1) 11th and 2100 South is an already congested and overused intersection. The introduction of a streetcar will only add to current congestion, 2) A line extending to nowhere, at the bottom of the hill on 17th south makes no logical sense to any larger transportation plan, 3) the logical extension is due east through the existing and future business zone and then be routed along the north side of Sugarhouse park, ideally beyond, 4) Sugarhouse arguably consists of distinct mini-neighborhoods defined by 11th e, 9th e, 7th e and 2100s, 1700 s, 1300s. An introduction of a trolley line on 11th e will increase traffic on all n-s side streets west(and probably east) and further divide the exiting enclaves, 5) increased traffic in these areas decrease the desirability and family presence, which is a critical dimension of the Sugarhouse neighborhood. This is a bad idea conceived on the recommendations of some "advisory council" that obviously has no connection or interest in the odd juxtaposition of public and private space that defines the Sugarhouse experience. Please do not proceed with this hasty extension plan. As stated above, the only logical extension is to connect the transit starved east bench area to the larger city network by continuing the rail line east.....not north..... All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 4 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? I think the proposed street car should continue to head East, connecting to Sugarhouse Park and hopefully beyond. With this, improved bus service on the north/south lines in the area would be of great benefit. Name not shown in District 5 April 23, 2013, 12:07 PM I am strongly opposed to the extension of the Sugarhouse street car north on 1100 East. I have lived just off of 1100 East (near 1300 South) now for about 12 years and one of the reasons I bought a house in this area is because it is a quiet pedestrian neighborhood where people walk and ride their bikes. The traffic on 1100 East between 1700 South and 800 South is relatively light and there is currently UTA bus service on this route with low to average ridership. The average cost of constructing a street car line is between $2million and $10million per mile (see http://www.heritagetrolley.org/artcileBringBackStreetcars7.htm). To complete the proposed section from Sugarhouse to 9th and 9th along 1100 East (about 3 miles) would cost between $6million and $30million. Using the lower number of $6million and assuming that maintenance of street car service is in line with that of bus service, the UTA could offer FREE bus service on this route for 60 years ($100,000/year) for the same cost of putting in a street car route. More realistically, the cost of construction will be closer to $20million. UTA could offer FREE bus service for about 200 years at that rate. Salt Lake City Council, please end the street car line at 2100 S. and Highland and stop wasting money. Bruce Bradley in District 6 April 23, 2013, 9:38 AM Very weak reasons were given in the Simonsen and Luke letters promoting eastward extension of the street car line. Actually, residence properties eastward along 2100 S. would decline in value, and many residences would gradually be replaced by transient struggling commerce, spoiling the peaceful park and neighborhoods. Residents do not want or need a street car. If there are public funds to burn, please spend on bike racks, bike and pedestrian safety, and security personnel in the existing Sugarhouse business district. Name not shown in District 7 April 23, 2013, 9:23 AM I am a former U of U student as of 2010. Having the street car go directly to a simple University connection would have been great. As well as having access to Sugarhouse Park. I love the park but driving there even though it's so close discourages me at times. Be great to have a quicker route All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 5 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? there and to 21st and 21st as I frequent those businesses and in-laws live that direction (walking distance from proposed route to the east.) Personally, I would use the east route and be disgusted if the car goes north onto 1100, Highland. The congestion is already bad in this intersection and the east route stop (I'm assuming is only a block from most of those businesses to the north. Thank you, John Dunbar outside Salt Lake City April 23, 2013, 8:45 AM I have just finished reading Mr. Simonsen's well written letter regarding the Sugar House Streetcar line extension. I wholly agree with his arguments that the line should be extended to the east to Sugar House Park and the up 2100 South. I believe that this will be the most cost effective and most beneficial use of this line and will ultimately provide the opportunity to make this line a true asset in our pursuit of efficient, convenient, and user friendly mass transit. Thank you Mr. Simonsen for a well thought out and reasoned presentation. Name not shown in District 6 April 23, 2013, 7:48 AM Ordinarily, we can count on Charlie Luke for common sense among this ship of fools (City Council), but this time, he is failing us. Sluke (Simonsen Luke combo) is as unnatural as the 2100 South trolley extension. It is a Sugar House Trolley - leave it in Sugar House proper, and don't destroy what is left of 2100 South, since if a trolley goes that route, kiss any remaining nice homes on that street goodbye. No one with any sense wants to live on 2100 as it is - put a trolley in and you have commercial development or slum housing - take your pick - ditto the area across the street from Highland High, which, in just the past few years has seen home improvements, which will soon be a thing of the past after a trolley line goes in on 2100 South. The tennis court area of Fairmont Park is an eyesore, community garden or not. Was there any planning at all when a decision was made to bisect this park with the Boys and Girls club and then neglect the tennis area entirely? This is the perfect time to undo this mess and turn it back into a park. If that can't happen, then the people on Simpson Avenue better get used to the fact that their once quiet, albeit neglected little neighborhood is gone. The Trolley (aka Becker's Folley) will undo that - the name of the game is 'transit-oriented development.' Jeff Pickett in District 7 April 23, 2013, 12:32 AM I live in District 7 and have lived here for nearly 30 years. I drive along 2100 South every day and, consequently, am very familiar with the traffic patterns along this street. With that background, I am All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 6 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? greatly concerned about extending the Streetcar line beyond McClelland Street and north along 1100 East for the following reasons: (1) 1100 East is a narrow street that is already extremely congested. While a streetcar will reduce some traffic, I do not believe it would reduce traffic enough to offset the loss of one or more lanes. (2) The 2100 S/1100 E intersection is very busy. I drive through that intersection everyday during rush hour and cannot imagine how busy it would be with lane restrictions due to a streetcar line. (3) The destination serves a very limited population (2,500 students at Westminster) who need to travel a short distance to a single destination. While I recognize that there may be a need for these students, it seems like bus lines along 1100 East would be a better solution to meet their needs. Despite these concerns, I am even more concerned with Council Member Simonsen's proposal of extending the Streetcar line east to Sugarhouse Park, Highland High, and eventually further east. I have these concerns for the following reasons: (1) While I have not seen a proposal as to the route that would be taken to extend the line from McClelland to Sugarhouse Park, it would seem to me that it would have to go along 1100 East to either 2100 South or Wilmington. For many of the reasons described above, I have concerns with the line going along 1100 East due to congestion. (2) The line would then either need to (a) go along 2100 South from 1100 East to 1300 East, which is the busiest section of 2100 South and which would limit access to those businesses along that section of 2100 South or (b) go east on Wilmington to 1300 East. 1300 East is already extremely congested and limiting a lane would further increase this congestion. (3) The stretch along 2100 South from 1300 East to 1700 East, while less congested than the 1100 East to 1300 East section, becomes incredibly congested during rush hour, particularly the westbound side with the two turn lanes that turn left (south) onto 1300 East. In addition, when there are accidents at that intersection, I have seen traffic backed up all the way to 2300 East. Having a streetcar line that takes some of those traffic lanes would further increase the congestion. (4) There are homes and a high school along 2100 South from 1300 East eastward. I worry that the children living in those homes and attending these schools will be at greater risk of accidents happening, particularly the young drivers attending Highland High. (5) I'm greatly concerned about extending the line beyond 1700 East as traffic is heavy and the streets are narrow. Particularly during the morning rush hour, there is a lot of congestion at the 21st/21st intersection because of parents taking their children to Dilworth. A streetcar will not solve those issues and will further compound them. I recognize that the majority of my concerns relate to congestion in an already busy area and that the logical counter-argument is that a streetcar will relieve the congestion. In his recent letter to the residents of District 7, Council Member Simonsen noted that there are "very few bus routes running north and south through this area, and none that run continuously east and west." I fear that we are not answering the question, "why is that the case?" The reason these bus lines don't exist is because the demand for public transportation in these areas does not exist. If the demand existed, UTA would create the necessary bus lines because they would generate a profit for UTA. Unfortunately, I fear we are living in the Field of Dreams with the mindset that "if we build it, they will come." That line of thinking is backwards. The proper line of thinking is if the demand for the services is there, we should build the line. I fear the demand is not there. Finally, while we are no longer technically in a recession, most people are treating their personal finances as if we are in a recession. It seems to me that the prudent thing right now would be for our government to treat our tax dollars as if we were in a recession as well. Part of the money that is being spent on this is mine and I do not want my hard-earned money spent making traffic in my All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 7 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? neighborhood more congested than it already is. Jahn Barlow in District 3 April 22, 2013, 11:05 PM I always favor more open space, so I can hardly believe that I'm about to advocate for rezoning the open space at the Sugar House tennis courts. However, this seems like a critical corner in connecting the emerging urban corridor along the streetcar line. The reality is there is nothing of interest between 900 East and McLelland, and this stretch of Sugarmont becomes even less inviting after dark. There is plenty of open space at Fairmont Park. What this corner needs is a really well-planned mixed-use SMALL-SCALE development that will serve as a neighborhood gathering place. If you do rezone the tennis court open space, please find another suitable location for the community garden! Donald Malouf in District 7 April 22, 2013, 8:04 PM As residents of the Highland Park area of Salt Lake City, my wife and I would like to lend our support to the streetcar route proposed by our Councilman, Soren Simonsen. We feel that extending the route farther east than 1100 East would provide more useful connections and result in less congestion than the route north through what is already a traffic problem. Thank you so much for you attention. Donald and Linda Malouf Name not shown in District 7 April 22, 2013, 6:37 PM I am against the Sugar House streetcar running on 1100 East. I use that road frequently, and I am concerned that with the streetcar on that road, it will become a "one way only" road...or even more narrow than it already is. The area near the post office is often chaotic as it is, and the businesses near there may suffer if it is more difficult for people to drive/park at for these locations. I do not believe that the streetcar would be more functional than the UTA bus system that already runs along that road. I use that bus often and would be disappointed if it's route were disrupted or changed. Name not shown in District 7 April 22, 2013, 6:21 PM We are not in favor of the Sugar House Streetcar line. We live in this neighborhood and we feel that this will take our quiet neighborhood away. This would create intrusion of our neighbor and will add more traffic congestion. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 8 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? The bus system works very nicely serving Highland and 11th East. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 22, 2013, 5:38 PM I agree with the Mayor's proposal that the streetcar go north on 1100 East. That makes more sense to me that it would increase ridership. There is not much at 2100 south and foothill. I am a member of the SL County Bicycle Advisory Committee and have looked at cycling and alternate forms of transportation for the last few years. Thanks Chris Peterson Brad Clinch in District 7 April 22, 2013, 4:47 PM I am a resident of District 7 and fully agree with Council Member Simonsen's opinion that the streetcar should not be constructed along 11th East. That street is much too tight and busy to be able to share with the streetcar. Future expansion of the streetcar line east toward Sugarhouse Park, and hopefully further east, is by far the best choice as access to the park and Highland High would be greatly improved. Imagine the potential to reduce some of the car traffic on the Fourth of July, to mention just one benefit to the 21st south option. Thank Council Mmeber Simonsen for speaking up for your constituents! Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 22, 2013, 4:22 PM Please do not put the streetcar along 1100 East. There are many local businesses this would hurt. 2100 South seems like the logical choice, the street is wider and it could connect up to Foothill. Look at the studies regarding current bus routes usage. 1100 East does not get used and 2100 south does. I work on 1100 East and would hate to see construction on 1100 East for several months. 1100 East is a walkable street, 2100 South is not. Name not shown in District 7 April 22, 2013, 10:41 AM I am strongly opposed to a streetcar on 1100 East or through Sugar House Square. Having a streetcar on this route would dissect the heart of Sugar House, and sever the arteries that allow access to the businesses and residences in the area. I would prefer to see the streetcar line end at Phase 1 and continue with bus service in a "hub and spoke" concept. This concept would allow for a flexible solution to address future growth and broader service to the community. I believe extending the street car line, especially on 1100 East, would urbanize and destroy what makes Sugar House an attracive neighborhood. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 9 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? I am a business owner in the path of the proposed street car. The proposed project and its ensuing construction would disrupt or eradicate my business. About 40-50% of my customers are car dependent. Losing even a few parking spots or having the entrances to available parking blocked, even for a few weeks, could highly impact people easily bringing large amounts of books to my door. This happens on a daily basis and the city needs to not disrupt that critical part of my business. 11th East buses are nearly empty going by and cause much of the traffic backup around my store. I believe we need to re-think the use of existing public transit very honestly, especially while existing construction projects are completed around the old Granite block. When that project is fully embedded into the neighborhood, the transit needs of Sugarhouse might look very differently. The proposed line, with its high price tag, should continue along 21st South to link with existing highly utilized spaces like Sugarhouse Park and Highland High School. Having a streetcar with no highly utilized destination and with such a great impact on existing businesses has no merit. Please see reason and don't waste immense resources to hurt the parts of 11th East in Sugarhouse that make it a desirable spot to visit. Name not shown in District 6 April 21, 2013, 10:20 PM I think that it is a great idea. The streetcar has become such an important part of travel for Utah residents especially in the Sugar House area. It helps to reduce gas emissions and traffic while promoting building commuties and making it easier to get from place to place. I think that the newly proposed streetcar is a great idea and that the construction that goes along with it is worth it. The Streetcar should continue to expand into the future as well. Sarah Woolsey in District 7 April 21, 2013, 8:54 PM Sugarhouse resident Sarah Woolsey--I also advocate for open space to remain at the tennis court area. This has brought lots of interaction/community--keep it a park, garden, interactive space. Name not shown in District 5 April 21, 2013, 2:35 PM Studies show that 2100 South has one of the most highly utilized bus lines and 1100 Est has one of the lowest utilized bus routes. This shows us all what the best option is. I understand Westminster is the only supporter of the 1100 East line, but they need to be realistic. 2100 South is very close to Westminster and student housing. PLEASE think about local businesses on 1100 East, they would all suffer greatly. NO STREET CAR ON 1100 EAST. Name not shown in District 6 April 21, 2013, 2:27 PM I would support the street car if it was self supporting, which it will never be. Having said that and knowing that the line is already being built, the best end point would be to connect to Foothill Village. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 10 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? It should be obvious to everyone that 11th east is too narrow already for a street car. I think having a sugarhouse street car is a great idea, but i just don't see it working too well. The trax on 4th south and other places cause confusion and accidents; I would never want sugarhouse to feel that chaotic and overwhelming. We already have a lot of great buses, it is very easy to get where you need to be by using public transportation. Instead of adding a streetcar we could put some of the money into our bus systems. A streetcar in sugarhouse would increase the crowded feeling that already exists in the many narrow streets. Ben Pendleton in District 7 April 20, 2013, 1:45 PM My name is Ben Pendleton, I am 23 years old, and I have been a resident of the Sugarhouse area for the last 5 years. In that time I have attended and had to commute to Westminster College. I no longer attend the college but I can be a voice for those students because my wife and I are now new owners of a 4-plex on 800 East and just South of 2100 South. A lot of the applicants interested in renting from me are students who attend Westminster or the U of U. So naturally this streetcar proposal has a direct interest from my wife and I by increasing the interest of current and future tenants because it would run right next to our property. In my opinion, this proposed plan TO TAKE THE STREETCAR UP 2100 SOUTH would definitely benefit the community much more than the 1100 East option, and also my current and future tenants. 1100 East is a very narrow street and the construction alone would cause a huge concern for me and other members of the community. This could also potentially require current businesses to close or move their locations because of the expansion required to run the streetcar down 1100 East. 1100 East is an established community and mostly residential North of 2100 South. So there isn't much more room for growth as you head further north. So why would we bring more transit to areas where the growth isn't going to be? As a new homeowner I am very excited to have a voice in the community and I am very excited about what his happening in Sugarhouse to help reinvigorate the township. As homeowners in Sugarhouse, my wife and I are supporters of Soren Simonsen's proposal to take the street car further East. Name not shown in District 7 April 20, 2013, 10:39 AM Running the streetcar along 1100 East makes no sense at all. 1300 East is wider and closer to the college than 1100. In order to put it on 1100 East, the street would have to be widened, which could require tearing down some of the businesses on the street. I don't think any of the residents or business owners would like that too much. I have lived in the area for over 40 years and like the quiet streets and small businesses. Don't All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 11 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? change it now to service college students who would benefit more by having the streetcar go directly by their school, not 2 blocks away. I agree with the plan proposed by Soren Simonsen. Name not shown in District 6 April 19, 2013, 12:23 PM As a resident of Sugarhouse for 20+ years, I do not feel that EITHER of the proposed routes for the Sugarhouse streetcar would be a good choice. I chose to move to the area along 2100 South purely because of the aesthetics---(the beauty of the park and mountains is unsurpassed). the sense of openness and ease of mobility. Running the tracks , wires and streetcars up and down this area would severely impact the beauty of the surroundings in a negative way, and impede one's ability to drive expeditiously. I also believe that when the aesthetics and "feeling" of an area is impacted in a negative way, property values go down, which is not good for homeowners nor the tax base. I am also concerned about safety and security in a residential area (such as the one adjacent to Highland High, the proposed route), and have observed much unpleasantness in terms of loiterers and unsafe situations at many of the Trax stops downtown. In addition, 2100 South is extremely crowded with traffic between 700 East and 1300 East, especially at lunchtime, rush hour, and on shopping weekends and holidays. I have experienced many nearmisses with other cars simply because people are pressed for time and rushing to complete errands. Addition of a Trax line would severely impede traffic and be a huge disservice to those of us who must drive, for whatever reason. The other proposed option, north on 1100 East would be equally bad due to already crowded conditions. Why not investigate a 3rd option, perhaps north down 700 East? It is a wide street and could easily accommodate a Trax line. The City of Atlanta has the best solution......they run shuttle buses from their "MARTA" streetcar stations outward to wherever people are most likely to go. Why not investigate that? A "hub-and-spoke" concept? It would be much more neighborhood friendly. Also, I believe there used to be streetcar tracks that ran along the south edge of the area where "Sugarhouse BBQ" is located. Why not investigate whether that would be a viable option? I realize the funding has been granted needs to be spent but please do not turn an otherwise beautiful area into a crowded, aggravating, visually ugly mess All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 12 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? 11th east is already too crowded and narrow with traffic congestion, especially during the winter holidays (post office). I think the line up to Sugarhouse park would be more beneficial and used by the public-- students can easily walk to Westminster 2 blocks from the park area. Name not shown in District 7 April 19, 2013, 9:08 AM The Sugar House streetcar presents an opportunity to provide public transportation on a regional scale if it extends up 21st to Foothill. Park City commuters like myself would then be able to ride the bus, use the streetcar and leave our stinky cars in the mountains on most weekdays. Please extend the streetcar up 21st. Thanks Name not shown in District 7 April 18, 2013, 10:55 PM I believe that the expantion of the streetcar north on 1100 East is the best idea. This would be beneficial to the students attending Westminster College. Ellie Pendleton in District 5 April 18, 2013, 3:43 PM I do not want to see a Streetcar going down 11th East. That is a walking area. It is a narrow driving area. To put a Streetcar there would destroy all of the things we enjoy so much there. Let's leave Surgar House as it is. We love it. Many people are coming here because of the Small Town effect has on us all. Don't destroy what we love so much. Jessica Steed in District 7 April 18, 2013, 11:29 AM I adamantly oppose this streetcar line at all. If the world and the government were made of money then yes, I think a charming little train that clogs traffic and helps out a minor few achieve *their* idea of an ideal urban lifestyle would be tolerated. But as 30 million dollars is a lot of money and is paid for by hard-working citizens I think the money is better spent elsewhere. Name not shown in District 2 April 18, 2013, 8:15 AM I believe there are positives and negatives to this. Positives are that it would help college students who don't ahve cars have a direct and less time consuming shot to their classes. It might also encourage walking in the area. Negatives would be adding more crowd to an already crowded area, since the Sugar House roads are so narrow. I think that if you can passed the extra squish, then it's a great idea. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 13 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? I heartily support the extension of the streetcar north on 1100 East! This would be very beneficial to the thousands of Westminster College students, many of whom do not have cars, as it would allow us access to Central Pointe (and therefore the U of U, downtown Salt Lake, the airport, and south all the way to Draper). We're a very environmentally conscious group of people, and would love to be able to contribute to decreased emissions to better the valley's air quality by riding public transportation exclusively. Clay Pendleton in District 5 April 17, 2013, 9:22 PM I live close to the Sugarhouse area and feel that the zoning change to perhaps allow the Street Cars to go along 11th East would make it very difficult for traffic since it's already a "Squeeze Shoot Corridor" - down a very narrow passage until to you come to Highland Dr. I would be against that proposed plan and would rather see the Street Car plan go up 21st South street or better - make a connection from 7th East down to Van Winkle and then South perhaps down 9th East or South down 13th East to Sandy and perhaps futher to Draper. We all know what caused most cities to get rid of their old street car systems in the first place - The Oil and rubber industries. Salt Lake at one time had a nice street car system in place but for some personal reasons was torn up and disbanded like many other cities thougout the United States. It would have been nice to still have in use the old style street cars working here in Salt Lake City, like they have in San Francisco, and we could have had most lines already in place - so now were spending money to bring it back. If we are now planing to propose where are funds will be used and where they will run lets make it available to people so they don't have to drive to a location to get on one but make it close to walking distance. This is the reason why I feel that the connection made at 7th East would be a better choice because the street car could go straight down the middle of the street. Thereby, allowing plenty of room for both sides of traffic and an easy connection hookup back to the main lines that head to the University of Utah or back to downtown areas. This makes easier access for people wanting to travel to downtown areas on light rail. Name not shown in District 7 April 17, 2013, 2:14 PM Keep the Sugarmont Tennis Courts as open space for use by the community. I am a sugar house home owner who moved to this neighborhood specifically for it's walk-ability, locally owned businesses and it's public/green spaces. I believe that it is essential to the neighborhood "feel" to maintain as much public space as possible. If the area near the boys and girls club needs to be rezoned I strongly recommend that it become an extension of the park that is already there and provide a place for community to meet, mingle, play and relax. The boys and girls club and the open space provides huge benefits to all of society, benefits that are measurable and invaluable. The area south of 2100 south is a community of homeowners who use the green spaces on a regular basis and know the value to the health of their families and their community. I am and have been a supporter of the street car. I have also been a member of the Sugar House Community Garden. I see the value in both maintaining quiet places for community gathering and the value in growth and renovation. Striking the right balance so that communities thrive and prosper is All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 14 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? hard to achieve. This is our chance to get it right. Keep the boys and girls club and the Sugarmont Tennis Courts a place that sugar house residents can use to strengthen our community ties by keeping it as open space. Name not shown in District 7 April 17, 2013, 1:24 PM When the city neglected this space for 20 years, a community group took it upon themselves to create a community garden. This designated open space wouldn't be up for development consideration if the city had kept it up as tennis courts or park space in the first place. Our neighborhood has shown plenty of interest and pride in keeping this space open. Please do not remove this land from city open space inventory. The Boys & Girls Club is an anchor for families in our neighborhood. It offers us sports, summer camps, and is a licensed day care. Rezoning this land could put their location in jeopardy and the community wouldn't let this happen quietly. Please don't rezone and put their 50-year lease with the city on the table for developers. Name not shown outside Salt Lake City April 17, 2013, 12:17 PM I am absolutely opposed to taking the street car above 1300 East on 2100 South. Those who want to access Sugarhouse Park will be able to walk there easily by the 1100 East location. Taking the street car closer to Highland High creates an unreasonable danger to children who attend the preschool at Highland as well as many young drivers. There is a high likelihood of a crash with a street car due to the number of inexperienced drivers going to and from Highland. Further, many Highland students walk to school across 2100 South. The amount of traffic already is difficult and sometimes dangerous. Let's not make it worse. Further up 2100 South, approximately half of Dilworth Elementary's population has to cross 2100 South to go to school. This is already dangerous enough without adding a street car to the mix. Many of the children walk to and from school and placing a street car unreasonably increases the danger for 100's of small children. Please do not extend the line up 2100 South above 1300 East. Robert A Jones in District 7 April 17, 2013, 12:04 PM Leave the tennis courts on Simpson Ave as open space. A few years ago, the city presented a plan to fix up the tennis court area and make it part of the park. The city should be headed in that direction, not developing it for housing. Sugar House needs more open space, not less. Lynn Schwarz in District 7 April 17, 2013, 9:23 AM All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 15 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? Please do not remove the Boy's and Girl's Club and former tennis court areas from the open space inventory! We need more open space, not less. Also, please do not allow SROs or boarding houses as a permitted use. Name not shown in District 5 April 17, 2013, 5:49 AM Why, as always, is SLC asking for input from nearby residents and businesses after its already determined (and paid) for its plan. I have a business right on the boundary of this mess, but was given no prior notice nor asked for any input until now. Teddy Anderson in District 7 April 16, 2013, 8:46 PM The new streetcar line runs along my back yard and I am thrilled to live in a city valuing and funding these projects! As many before have said, I highly value the "open space" on 900 for the community garden. Let's throw a little money that way, too. And, I personally support the idea of the next phase going east along 2100 S. This would start connecting us better to the east bench, and in the mean time serve as a natural extension for getting to the park and beyond. 1100 is such a nice walking street for those wishing to venture forth from the main plaza. But as of December I am very excited to walk out my back door and take a train to the airport! Nice work, city. I appreciate your dedication and work. Name not shown in District 2 April 16, 2013, 2:15 PM It's really nice that there is going to be a new kind of transportation, and i suppport that decision because it will help people get to their desteny fast without waiting Name not shown in District 7 April 16, 2013, 2:04 PM Please leave the tennis courts as open space. They are currently being used as a community garden and it would be great to have that included in the master plan. I don't believe that we need more condo/apartment buildings. If anything more open space should be included in the proposal. We need more walk-able space in the Sugar House area to encourage people to park their cars and be a part of the community. There is the the potential to develop a great neighborhood that could attract people. Think of South Street in Philadelphia, Ybor City in Tampa, many of the neighborhoods in San Francisco, or Broadway Ave in Nashville. These are neighborhoods that people are excited to visit and come back to. Salt Lake could use a bit more character; and this Trolley is a chance to develop it in the Sugar House area. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 16 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? I am strongly in favor of the Eleventh East option for the future continuation of the new Streetcar line. Sugar House Park will soon have the Draw to bring visitors to this beautiful but already busy and crowded park, through this new feature. Providing a transit option north along Eleventh East would be a major step in providing real mass transit access throughout the city, connecting a number of distinctive neighborhoods and smaller business districts. Beyond providing students of Westminster College a greener way to travel within their environs (reducing both auto traffic and related pollution), the businesses in Sugar House--especially along Eleventh East--will gain a new source of direct and easy access to their businesses, as streetcars stop more often than Trax or trains. The Streetcar line facilitates the neighborhood goal of making Sugar House a "destination;" by advancing that line along Eleventh East, it will be better connected to the rest of the city and better positioned to provide further mass transit options in the area. It will provide the greatest benefit for both both people and local businesses. William Metcalfe in District 7 April 16, 2013, 10:46 AM 900 East is an access street and should remain an "Access Street." 900 East is an important commuting street and automobile traffic should not be impeded with the exception of the Streetcar crossing. Hugh Johnson in District 7 April 16, 2013, 9:29 AM Let me get this straight: people who live and own businesses on 1100 E will loose access to their property and businesses permanently, so students of Westminster College can have a train that goes less than 3 miles; how many students live in the Sugarhous commons shopping center? Spending another 30 MILLION tax payer dollars to provide 3 miles of transportation to temporary residents of the area (students) a tiny sliver of the population who do not pay any taxes, is beyond ridiculous. Why not run the trax train through Federal Heights and destroy the property values of people living there, why? because that is where the city council and mayor lives. NOBODY NEEDS THIS TRAIN TO NOWHERE!!! Name not shown in District 7 April 16, 2013, 9:23 AM As a resident of the Sugar House community I would propose that the tennis courts on 900 East where the Sugar House Community Garden resides remain as open space. There are a number of multiple residence dwelling units going into the Sugarhouse area. I would not appreciate another one. Please keep the historical character of the community in mind when creating policies and selling off land for development. Thank you for your time and consideration. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 17 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? Stop the madness. Trolly is not needed. we are in hard times. Name not shown in District 7 April 15, 2013, 9:05 PM Regarding the change in zoning for the open space on 9th east currently occupied by the tennis courts and Boys and Girls Club, PLEASE keep that an open space. The city has few precious spaces left, please preserve what we have. There are many great uses for the space that could benefit the community rather than developers and business owners. The area has so much to offer, please don't commercialize it or build multi-story apartments. Name not shown in District 7 April 15, 2013, 11:24 AM As a Sugar House resident, I strongly advocate the 1100E corridor. Not only would this provide transportation to businesses along this line, it would provide public transportation for students of Westminster College. In bringing public transit to students, we cut down on the carbon emissions produced by students driving to the campus and it would help to clear our streets of the cars that park during school hours. Burton Brown in District 7 April 15, 2013, 9:15 AM I would encourage Council members to keep the Tennis Court area as Open Space. Cities everywhere are always complaining/clamoring for more open space...not less. The courts can be resurfaced and improved, and can be a destination stop for the SH Trolley. The Boys/Girls Club should stay as it will already be a destination for trolley riders. The courts have been in blight condition for decades, and the city has already spent $60K investigating court improvements, so the plans to improve the courts already exist, and would merely need implementation. Parks and recreation are indeed factors that increase ridership of public transportation. I would also add that the homes along Simpson Ave currently have no back neighbors, which is an attraction and, for many, the reason they moved to this street. By adding some apartment, condo or whatever, you will totally change the nature of the neighborhood. The Boys/Girls Club is heavily used and desired by the community, so why change that? A friend also pointed out that the only reason this Open/Park space is even being considered today is because the city has neglected the tennis courts for decades, and allowed it to fall into disrepair. If it had been maintained, and kept up, it would already be an active part of the community as a court, and as such, it would not be under consideration for a zone change. Stephanie Godinez outside Salt Lake City April 14, 2013, 9:21 PM This is a great idea, it would even make more sense for the trax to connect to the university red line All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 18 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Sugar House Street Car Zoning and Master Plan Amendments What are you thoughts on the on the proposed master plan and zoning changes near the Sugar House Streetcar line? this way students can get to where they need to go. Nick Raoux in District 5 April 13, 2013, 12:02 PM Although the burden of building a new TRAX line up 1100 E seems like a logistical nightmare, the people it would benefit outweighs any other alternative. The money spent in bringing the TRAX line up 1100E would bring great benefit to the community of Sugarhouse by helping the students of Westminster College (who are the most likely to use this line) and by bringing economic prosperity to the local businesses on 1100 E all the way up to 9th and 9th. It makes the most sense to connect the Trax with the University line, fully connecting the Salt Lake Valley with a reliable means of transportation. Giving the students of Westminster College a means of transportation to and from downtown would benefit this entire state. The UTA busses are impractical in the winter, and unreliable year round. Please, consider the benefits and overall logic of bringing the TRAX line up 1100E. Sincerely, Concerned Sugarhouse Citizen. All comments sorted chronologically As of May 6, 2013, 11:49 AM Page 19 of 19 http://www.peakdemocracy.com/1265 Comments between 12:00 p.m. May 3, 2013 and 1:00 pm May 7, 2013 name comments Mark and Ashely Kittrell Dear Councilperson Love, I write to voice mine, and my wife's, support for the Sugar House Streetcar line to run along 1100 East. We both reside in your district. We believe this to be the best route for the Sugar House neighborhood and economic development. Studies show that the greatest ridership will occur along that proposed route. With increased ridership, you will see increased dollars to be spent on local businesses. Furthermore, this represents a wonderful way to connect to vital neighborhoods in the city ‐‐ the 9th & 9th area with the Sugar House area. The 2100 South option concerns me because it would run along the Sugar House Park's northern edge. Streetcars are implemented as a means for economic development. If the route ran along that edge of the Park, I fear you would see economic development pressure for the crown jewel of our local park system. Coincidentally, I serve on the Sugar House Park Authority, and we are concerned about that development as well. The Authority, in a written letter to Mayor Becker, expressed that it does not prefer the 2100 South route. I even think a 2100 South route would impede traffic flow on a major artery through the City, as it runs in regular traffic lanes. With respect to any argument that the line would benefit the Park, my personal opinion is that it's not needed. The Park will have (hopefully) the development of the Parley's Trail this year through it. The Draw will connect, under 1300 East, the Park with the rest of Sugar House. The Draw would be a five minute walk from the McClelland stop at Highland. Further, the Park has no problem getting people to use and enjoy it. If you ever show up during the weekend in late Spring, Summer, and early Fall, you'll see this. Finally, if a stop was created by the Park, you would certainly have to see chunks of the Park carved out to accommodate a streetcar stop. I know that this is a tough decision for all on the Council, but I hope that you vote for the 1100 East route. Ellen Parish Hi Jill, You know me from my membership on the ELPCO community council. Our council has not yet arrived at a consensus opinion on the streetcar, but I have, personally. I think eleventh east makes sense and that’s where the streetcar should go. East Benchers have enough amenities, and the Westminster, U of U neighborhoods would use the streetcar option more, I believe. Plus, it’s funkiness matches the tone and timbre of the Sugarhouse 11th east neighborhood ambience. I don’t think the protesters are aware of how beneficial the streetcar would be for their neighborhoods. Ed Butterfield needs to get out there more and do some more “convincin.†Better yet, Mayor Becker himself could persuade this vocal minority of benefits of a streetcar in the neighborhood. Meanwhile, for what it’s worth, add my voice to those who favor the 11th east option. Thank you for all you do for we SLC citizens, I am proud to live in the best City in Utah. Michael Hansen I don't want my kids to cross the tracks on their way to elementary school. To Dangerous! Jesse Knight Because it will be going right past my house and people in my ward are going to have to lose some of their property. Jans B. Wager No on 11th East Streetcar in Sugarhouse. East Central Community Coucnil Dear Mayor, Jill, Luke, all other members of the City Council, Robin, and staff; After the City Council public hearing on April 23, 2013, we took an additional poll of the ECC members who are enrolled as part of our electronic Google system. Our current enrollment is 2117. The outcome was 618 responded and 608 sustained the previous ECC position or 1100 East from 2100 South to 900 South, west on 900 South to 900 East, north on 900 East to the 400 Trax station. Dissenting comments were the following: Of the 618, 10 were in favor of east on 2100 South Additional comments or questions were: 1. Why don’t we just leave the 209 bus on 900 East. It works well. 2. Consider a new route, west on 2100 South and make a Sugar House loop 3. Concern for the welfare of the small businesses located on 1100 East 4. Concern about rezoning on 1100 East 5. Concern about crime that transit brings In behalf of the Executive Board and General Membership Esther Hunter & Gary Felt Chairs East Central Community Council Jans Wager I am a resident of Sugarhouse. I live just off off 11th East on Sherman Avenue. I oppose the streetcar on what is currently a lovely, quiet street with many thriving small businesses. I think the business, the neighborhood, and the property values would suffer with the streetcar. Amber Mettler I just wanted to write briefly to express my strong support for the 1100 E streetcar route. Bruce Wollstenhulme All, I am writing to strongly recommend a "no" vote on the current proposal to extend the Sugarhouse streetcar north on 1100 E. I'm in agreement with many others who feel that such a plan is very ill‐advised due to increased congestion and the overwhelming opposition by those most affected including businesses and residents close to the street. I attended early meetings on the Sugarhouse plan, and any mention of extending the route north or otherwise was presented in terms of the distant future. As such, I was very troubled that it appears a decision has already been made. I was also very unimpressed by the logic that was presented in favor of the 1100 E. plan (more potential for ridership...compared to what, economic development for whom at the expense of the residents?). In this situation, no action would be much better than the wrong action. Please listen to the voice of the people on this one. Sunk costs associated with a feasibility study should not be a driver in any such decision. Catherine Lukes FIRST ‐ do not tell me we DON't understand that because of your actions (sugarhole) the number of residents in Sugarhouse are increasing by at least 2,000 ‐ should have thought about that little (huge in my opinion) issue BEFORE the development was approved. I don’t understand why the Mayor is hellbent on putting this streetcar on 1100 East in BOTH DIRECTIONS when the CURRENT RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES DON’T want it while the businesses on 21st from 1100 East to 1700 East WANT it. The “Westminster College†students will NOT use it – I say in all caps BS – they will continue to drive from the new “dorms†or penthouse condos on 1300 east to the campus. When my daughter went to Westminster we carpooled in our Toyota Corolla and it didn’t matter what time of day, there was a pittance of students and staff who took the bus on 1300 East. It is even more painfully obvious that NONE of the “planners†or the mayor live or has a business on 1100 East or in the near vicinity. It would make 100% more sense to put the “streetcar†(1 ONLY) like the route (feel so so so sorry for those residents who now get to hear the streetcar next to their homes) from State to Fairmont Park, from 1100 East to 1700 East (serving Sugarhouse Park and Highland High), and reduce the lanes from 4 to 2 all the way up to the freeway entrance. In the future, it makes more economic sense to run the rail from 1700 East up 21st South through the Walmart parking lot (commuter perhaps?)to connect with a 2‐way rail car on Foothill. charlene durham I strongly object to the proposed 1100 East extension to the Sugarhouse Streetcar line. 1100 East between 1700 So and 2700 So is already extremely crowded and narrow. The streetcar line would likely require either more space in the right of way (difficult because the businesses are built very close to the street) or totally eliminating all parking (which would negatively impact businesses, patrons, and surrounding residences). The construction time would probably kill any businesses along that routes as they are very small specialty businesses. Westminster students may love you for a brief time, but they are temporary residents and there is already a bus that regularly serves that route. I favor one of the routes that goes nearly directly east from the current terminus. These will open transportation to unserved areas, provide better access to Sugarhouse Park, coincide with proposed bike access and extension of the bike trails, provide better access to high school students (more of them with fewer transportation options than college students), and not kill more businesses in the delightfully local center of Sugarhouse. Two more points: It is foolish to place a terminus on the property of the church east of 1700 E on 2100 S. Why invest the extra money at this time to cross another intersection just to end on the other side of the road? Please remember in your planning that public transportation should serve more than commuters. It also needs to be a well planned system for all citizens who go to more than just the center of the city. Thank you for your service to our city. Charlene Durham Alan Banks we should put our energy and $ into improving the walkability of the sugarhouse area. A multi‐ million dollar project that would inevitably block traffic, suspend local business and run a short distance, should be re‐considered. the allure of the area is it's walkability. I live above 1700 east, and frequently walk through the park to the library and shopping areas. putting our energy into a walking and bike‐friendly sugarhouse, would surely be a less expensive alternative that would draw locals and tourists alike to the area. We should take our examples from walkable areas in cities like Burlington Vt. and Denver Co.. Cities that have gone as far as blocking off streets to traffic altogether, creating pedestrian‐friendly areas that draw people in. Paul Sharp 11th East is an insane choice for a streetcar! Already, trying to drive to the post office is a nightmare. And we definitely won't be riding that antiquated piece of junk called a streetcar. Your "open houses" are just excuses that to claim you got public input, and don't do any real good. You wouldn't even be wasting time with the whole idiotic idea of "streetcars" in the first place if national taxpayers weren't busidizing it by "grants." That's how economically unrealistic they are. stephanie piani As a member of this community who uses public transportation almost everyday to/from work, I do not like the proposed route on 1100 east (between 2100 to 1700 south). I believe it is not an effective use of our resources for such a short distance when there is a bus line that goes within this area. I believe it is also within walking distance from the central area of Sugarhouse when you consider that Sugarhouse goes in the other direction a few blocks south of 2100 where other businesses are located. Please vote "no" to this extension. Thank you for your time and consideration. Dominik Christensen y y discussion surrounding the Sugarhouse Streetcar line. I feel that there is a major opportunity for advancement of the Sugarhouse streetcar that has received little to no mention anywhere in the media, council discussions, or community feedback sessions. I have a suggestion for the Council to consider. Instead of choosing 1100 East or continuing the Streetcar up 2100 South ‐ why not run the line north on 1300 East? 1300 East may be a busy street already but the opportunity to revamp (including upgrading 1300 East to Flex Lanes‐like on 5400 South in Taylorsville‐to help accommodate increased traffic flows in the morning & evenings)the already congested 1300 East. By continuing the Streetcar line East on Sugarmont Drive, further East on Wilmington Avenue eventually turning North on 1300 East at the intersection of Wilmington Ave and 1300 East ‐ the line would then go north on 1300 East linking up to the existing Trax Red Line at the intersection of 500 South and 1300 East near the University of Utah. The reason why I feel the urge to submit my public comment is that I feel the battle over the 11th East, 21st South options has been in bad taste and quite silly. The Streetcar line would not directly serve any function on 1100 East or 2100 South ‐ except to cause increased congestion in an already dense area. I have also discussed with individuals in and around the area that would be affected and have received warm consideration to my proposal ‐ making me feel encouraged to write to you. The 1300 East option is something that has not been mentioned or even proposed as far as I am aware and I believe that the 1300 East option would provide patrons of the line with the greatest access to community locations such as Westminster College, the businesses around 2100 & 13th, the former Granite block, Sugarhouse Park and most importantly it would directly link two of the nations sterling educational institutions. The University of Utah and Westminster College allowing students, professors, employees, etc the opportunity to ditch their vehicles for the easy to use streetcar. In addition to providing ease of access to all these local gatherings the 1300 East option would tie in perfectly to the existing infrastructure linking the Trax Red line with the Sugarhouse streetcar the UTA Front Runner and any future expansions of streetcar systems in the city. Thank you for considering this alternative‐alternative‐alternative proposal for the wonderful (and exciting) expansion of Utah's transit system. ‐‐ Concerned & Hopefully helpful citizen. Dominik Christensen Particia Callahan I appreciate info on the Sugarhouse streetcar; however, all the emails I have received from you provide only ONE side of the story‐‐the pros of the 1100 East option. I know many residents, including me, are opposed to putting the streetcar on 1100 East. It seems to me you would be better serving your constituents if you provided both the pros and the cons of such a decision, so folks could be truly informed. Spenser Bowen I would like to voice my opinion about NOT allowing the street car be built and placed on 2100 south. It would decimate the community and it is NOT needed. The buses are great. Please consider this. Thank you! Jill and Gavin Anderson Please DO NOT vote to extend the streetcar any further into Sugarhouse. The Sugarhouse community showed up in full force at the community council meeting to let them know we DO NOT want any streetcars on our already busy streets. The rails will not help businesses (take up parking and make it harder to maneuver around the trolley to get into businesses). Definitely, DO NOT send the trolley up 2100 South because it affects three schools and there is no logical destination to which the trolley needs to carry people. Please let's just see how the first phase goes ‐‐ how many actually use it, how much it disrupts normal traffic, etc. IT needs more study and should not be rushed into. Federal financing doesn't cover the actual cost of running it, so there should not be a rush to do it just because federal money may be available now. Thanks for your consideration of those who will have to live and work around the rails and streetcar! Jill Anderson Sugarhouse resident Barb Shelley Dear City Council, This is my third time to write to you. PLEASE do not tear up poor little, narrow 1100 East and add a street car. It’s a terrible location for a streetcar. The streetcar will just add more confusion. We have lost so much of the charm in downtown Sugar House with the tearing down of most of the historic business district along 2100 South and 1100 East. That area is an eyesore now, and it’s terrible that we lost so many small businesses. Let’s not add more confusion by the monument on 2100 South. And while I am at it, I am stunned at how many apartment buildings have been built along 2100 South in the downtown area. We already have a lot of rental property north of 2100 South. Congestion and instability now mar that part of town. At this rate, Sugar House will become a terrible place to live. If it is necessary to run the streetcar north and south, please consider 900 East or 700 East. Nicole Hanna I personally think the streetcar is a WONDERFUL idea. I would LOVE to be able to hop on it and go into Sugarhouse on a regular basis. Parking in Sugarhouse is currently a challenge, especially with a car load of kids. I live right by 1300 South and so would have only a short walk. The streetcar would also INCREASE property values, rather than decrease them, which I am all for. Also, I would like to see it extended to 9th and 9th (or at least 9th south and 8th east) to connect the two communities even more. I really do not understand the opposition to this proposal. I would, however, object to light rail being put in along 11th East, since I agree that it would prevent an easy flow of traffic. Scott Sloan Councilman, First, allow me to thank you for the informative and detailed letter I received with regards to this project. I was unable to attend the meeting, but wanted to relay a few thoughts. The idea of going to 1300 East seems the best solution for the long term growth of the east side. As you stated, buses can serve the north/south corridors along 700, 1100, and 1300 East. An underground section under 1300 E would be expensive, but ideal. I have heard, and my information may be inaccurate, that development limitations prevent high rise growth along the spur. It’s my understanding that this is limited to three stories. While I don’t want to see 30 story buildings, I think that a reasonable level of height (akin to the apartment tower by State and 2100) would benefit the project by allowing for more urbanized growth and population density. Let’s build the population up, leaving more open space for all. Finally, I love the idea of the green scape corridor along the line. If imminent domain is needed to recapture some space that is currently occupied by the run‐down buildings and warehouses along the line I urge you to fund those purchases. Ultimately I believe the goal should be to take this from the Jordan River up to the trail at Parley’s. Mary House I am concerned about the trolley extension. I am in favor of bringing the trolley to Highland Dr. at Sugarmont and see if anyone rides it. Then decide where to go from there, if anywhere. The worst possible route would be 11th East. Has anyone seriously looked at the intersection of 11th East and 21st South. Where would the power lines go? Another thing, I only see one track ....How does that work. One train at a time or at most two? I have lived in Sugarhouse since 1982. When we lived on the east side of 13th East it was almost impossibe to get across 13th East. If we want to make Surgarhouse a real walkable neighborhood, why not make it easier to walk in the neighborhood? Adding another form of transportation only makes more congestion. There is already a bus line on Highland, 13th East and 21st South. Mary House I am concerned about the trolley extension. I am in favor of bringing the trolley to Highland Dr. at Sugarmont and see if anyone rides it. Then decide where to go from there, if anywhere. The worst possible route would be 11th East. Has anyone seriously looked at the intersection of 11th East and 21st South. Where would the power lines go? Another thing, I only see one track ....How does that work. One train at a time or at most two? I have lived in Sugarhouse since 1982. When we lived on the east side of 13th East it was almost impossibe to get across 13th East. If we want to make Surgarhouse a real walkable neighborhood, why not make it easier to walk in the neighborhood? Adding another form of transportation only makes more congestion. There is already a bus line on Highland, 13th East and 21st South. Noreen McDonald The 1100 East corridor is too narrow and businesses would be too heavily impacted by construction for a streetcar that only goes FOUR BLOCKS. Really, most people can walk that far and, if they can't, 1100 East has excellent bus service. Pollution‐wise, business‐wise, destination‐wise, a streetcar in a more heavily‐used corridor would make a lot more sense. Why not have the streetcar continue up 2100 South to Sugar House Park and Highland High School? Eventually, it would be totally reasonable for a 2100 South streetcar to hook up with Foothill Boulevard and continue north to the U. I sent out emails to all city council members and the mayor‐‐to date, I have only heard from Soren Simonsen and Charlie Luke, both of whom (happily!) agree with me. Please consider their reasoning and the desires of the populace of Sugar House. Though a life‐long Democrat, I will not support any future city council or mayoral candidate who votes to put a streetcar on 1100 East. Steve Hurlbut I am writing to support the 2100 South extension of the streetcar, and to oppose the 1100 East option. I have lived in the Avenues since 1994, and I have been a professor of Managment at Westminster College since 1998. I am not writing on behalf of Westminster, and I do not know if Westminster has an "official" position on this issue. My biggest concern is for the small businesses on 1100 East. I am a semi‐regular customer at several, including the Central Book Exchange, The Soup Kitchen, and Fiddler's Elbow. My understanding is that they do not think they will survive the construction phase of the project. I am guessing they are correct, as I have great respect for all small businesses, and I dobut they would advocate against their best interests. Furthermore, I do think 2100 South is the better option. Sugarhouse Park and Highland HS are far more important (short term) destinations than the corner of 100 East and 1700 South. The center of Westminster College is about 1850 south and 1250 East, so the walk from either route to most Westminster classes is about the same. In fact, most of the residence halls at Westminster are closer to the main Sugarhouse intersection than to the old costume store on 1700 South. Also, in the long term, continuing the line to Foothill would probably relieve more traffic than continuing the line to 9th and 9th. Finally, you have a choice between two routes. I have yet to hear any opposition to the 2100 South line, and much opposition to the 1100 East option. Why not pick the choice that many favor, and that no one opposes? Thank you for considering my point of view. Bill Holt I want to be on record as opposing any extension of the Phase 1 extension of the Sugarhouse Streetcar product. Please, city council, delay your vote until all the proper impact studies have been done, and the voice of the Sugarhouse residents have been fully heard in this matter. We don't need another collosal waste of taxpayer money! Maxine Babalis There was talk about making a walkway beneath 13th East. If that's still a plan, why not make it wider and run the streetcar parallel to it, then up the edge of the park to 17th East. That's where the traffic begins to thin out. That would service HIghland High and the park and might even be the novelty that would attract tourists to the area. Just a thought. 11th East is a very bad idea. It's crowded, and it goes nowhere useful. Get a masterplan first, then decide where to tie up busy streets! Ben Burdett As I have observed the present fray over the future of the Sugar House Streetcar, I've begun to realize that this is quite a divisive issue. I think that if the City Council wants to push forward with a vote on where the streetcar tracks should go, they need to consider the timing of taking a vote at this time. Why should we even be worrying about where the tracks will go when we don't even know if and or when such an expansion will ever take place? Taking a vote on such an issue at the present time is quite shortsighted. All it will do is anger about 50% of the residents of Sugar House regardless of the outcome of the vote; and will accomplish very little in terms of what the real needs will be at the time the actual expansion takes place. What's wrong with waiting, and studying all the alternatives a little more? The residents of Sugar House already feel as though this thing is being pushed too fast, and not meaning for this to be too much of a pun, they feel they are being "railroaded" into making some decisions that no body is really ready to make at present. The City Council can best serve the citizens of the Sugar House area by putting off a recommendation favoring any specific alternative until further studies and citizen education takes place Laura Gray Hi I live at 1052 Yale right below 1100 east and I oppose that route. 1100 east is too narrow and the overhead lines would be ugly and hurt the trees. Busses are fine. Why a streetcar? Laura gray Katherine Ashworth Dear Council Members, I agree with those who feel we should not have the Streetcar on 1100 East. The street is quiet and residential near 1700 So., and then becomes narrower and busier as it nears 2100 So. It seems like the Streetcar would disrupt the quiet near the 1700 So. end and then add to the congestion near 2100 So. to no useful purpose. I agree with the idea that it would disrupt traffic, create safety hazards and harm businesses during construction. I also agree with the idea that ending the line at 1700 So. creates "a Streetcar to nowhere." Thank you. Mark Cook Please don't bring more commercial or public transportation east of 11th East in Sugarhouse! Please keep residents the focus of governing our residential areas!! We don't want the cars or trollies. Mark Cook 801‐466‐5608 KR Rice From: Kathleen Rice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 12:06 PM To: Council Comments Subject: Trolley ‐ would like more details. How can I learn more details about the proposed Sugarhouse Trolley Routes? ‐ for instance, what are your findings and how did you come up with your recommendations ? ‐ I would like to go with your proposals because you have studied this but I haven't found many details. Betty Schoeffler It makes absolutely no sense to run a street car north on 1100 East, a narrow, neighborhood street lined with small businesses. It's well‐served by a bus (to make it more convenient, just have UTA run it more often). Also, to reduce traffic further by adding a street car line would make it extremely difficult to get to Sugar House from the north by car (which, sorry to say, people still use). A street car east would be a great way to access beautiful Sugar House Park, Highland High, and the little pocket businesses along the way. Betty Schoeffler It makes absolutely no sense to run a street car north on 1100 East, a narrow, neighborhood street lined with small businesses. It's well‐served by a bus (to make it more convenient, just have UTA run it more often). Also, to reduce traffic further by adding a street car line would make it extremely difficult to get to Sugar House from the north by car (which, sorry to say, people still use). A street car east would be a great way to access beautiful Sugar House Park, Highland High, and the little pocket businesses along the way. Jill Thomas Mayor Becker needs to explain the need, route, and cost of the trolley. Nick Thomas We say NO to a Sugar House trolley ‐ no matter what the route ‐ until Mayor Becker and the city council explain the NEED, PURPOSE, COST and IMPACT of a trolley in Sugar House. Danny Clyne Following is a reply to the George Chapman's editorial appearing in the Sunday, May 5 SL Tribune: Thank you Mr. Chapman for making a very valid point regarding the proposed Sugar House Streetcar line. The TRAX extension from the Central Pointe TRAX Station to the east has its terminus at the planned McClelland Station. Those wishing to travel beyond that point to Sugar House Park can do so by walking there. The distance from this terminus to Sugar House Park is just as walkable as it is to Westminster College. A tunnel is being constructed under 1300 East specifically allowing pedestrian traffic in to the park. Most residents and business owners in the Sugar House area don’t want the streetcar anywhere, which is vehemently being communicated. They don’t want it running along 1100 East and they don’t want it running up 2100 South. They don’t want unsightly poles and cables obscuring the beautiful view of the mountains. In a day and age where nearly 70% of the population in this country is considered to be overweight or obese, it would do everyone some good to walk more; especially in a walkable community which is Sugar House. In the end, what everyone needs to do, is get off their TRAXs and walk. Clare Hunter Do NOT put the Street car sown 2100 South. The Form Based Zoning that goes automatically with with the rails is not desired by the residence in the area. DO NOT push commercial areas and high density in this part of town, it is NOT WANTED. You are trying to slip zoning changes by the people in the area at the behest of the developers. Listen to the residents in the specific areas and develop a city wide transportation plan first, then see where the street car fits in to the plan. Barbara Sparks Lives along 1100 East near proposed streetcar line. She is very opposed to having the streetcar on 1100 East. Danny Clyne Dear Mr. Luke, Following is a reply to the George Chapman's editorial appearing in the Sunday, May 5 SL Tribune: Thank you Mr. Chapman for making a very valid point regarding the proposed Sugar House Streetcar line. The TRAX extension from the Central Pointe TRAX Station to the east has its terminus at the planned McClelland Station. Those wishing to travel beyond that point to Sugar House Park can do so by walking there. The distance from this terminus to Sugar House Park is just as walkable as it is to Westminster College. A tunnel is being constructed under 1300 East specifically allowing pedestrian traffic in to the park. Most residents and business owners in the Sugar House area don’t want the streetcar anywhere, which is vehemently being communicated. They don’t want it running along 1100 East and they don’t want it running up 2100 South. They don’t want unsightly poles and cables obscuring the beautiful view of the mountains. In a day and age where nearly 70% of the population in this country is considered to be overweight or obese, it would do everyone some good to walk more; especially in a walkable community which is Sugar House. In the end, what everyone needs to do, is get off their TRAXs and walk. Danny Clyne Dear Mr. Luke, Please vote NO for ANY streetcar. I don't want all the impatient drivers that will not want to share the road with a streetcar diverting through my neighborhood on a daily basis. Has anyone considered this? We residents have. Jason Stevenson Dear Councilwoman Love, Hi ‐ this is Jason Stevenson, from Historic Gilmer and ELPCO. Ahead of Tuesday's city council vote on the Sugar House streetcar phase 2 route, I want to let you know that I support the city's preferred alternative of 1100 East. Here are five reasons why: 1‐The current calm traffic conditions on 1100 East are better suited for a slow‐moving streetcar than 2100 South, 1300 East, or Foothill Drive, where traffic moves twice as fast, and a streetcar would not make sense. A streetcar is not a bullet train‐‐‐it's a streetcar. 2‐Only the 1100 route offers an eventual connection to 9th and 9th and the 400 South TRAX line‐‐creating a public transport loop through the heart of Sugar House. 3‐I am an avid cyclist. I bike commute to Sugar House, the U. and downtown. The prospect of catching a bike wheel in the streetcar track does not worry me. Cyclists in SLC are already aware of this hazard because of the TRAX lines‐‐and it is a very rare occurrence anyway. 4‐Even though I'm an avid cyclist, I support the streetcar because cycling is not always the best mode of transport. For instance, my parents do not ride bikes anymore. But we could all ride a streetcar downtown to the library or a restaurant. 5‐The transportation studies support the 1100 route based on numerous empirical measures Please feel free to use these statements during Tuesday's city council meeting. Although do note that I am speaking for myself only, not for Historic Gilmer or ELPCO. Thank you, Jason Stevenson ‐‐ Kara Hurst Please do NOT put the Sugar House Streetcar up 11th East. That is a quiet, narrow, and pleasant street ‐ do not ruin it! I suggest putting the Street Car up 2100 South ‐ a wider street and the businesses on that street want the street car. Zac Webster I have been living in sugar house for almost 34 years and I am very happy about the streetcar going North on 1100 East. I would very much like to see it connect with the University Trax line in the future. Thank you for reading my comments. Bruce R. Baird y y p p y g y interested, mindless and repetitive nature of most of the comments made at public meeting. I know that you get more of these messages than you likely ever read. I also, generally, respect the professionals that give you guidance on complicated technical issues. However, a long‐term planning decision like the future route of the proposed Sugarhouse Streetcar extension in an area where I live and work is something I feel a need to comment on. Especially since I think that you are about to make a potentially huge mistake. First, the inevitable bona fides. I live and work in Sugarhouse and have done so for the last 20 years. I drive (in a Prius) both 1100 East and 2100 South between 1700 East and 1100 East an average of twice per day. I have used streetcars in San Francisco, New Orleans, Vancouver, Toronto, Amsterdam and Milan. My work specializes in real estate development often involving transportation issues. I have also spent a considerable amount of time online researching this question Except in major, long‐established cities, the most common phrase that pops up in discussion of historic and modern streetcar lines is that a line “runs from [a notable place] to [another notable place]â€. That phrase would not be true of the 1100 North extension unless you count Finn’s Restaurant (which is really nice by the way as I am sure many of you know) as a northerly destination. Anyone who tries to tell you that the line runs to Westminster does not understand transportation. No one will take a bus or Trax or Front Runner to the Streetcar to 1700 South and then walk to Westminster. Research shows that it is almost impossible to get Americans to make more than two changes of modes of transportation and devilishly hard to get them to make even two. 1100 East is far too narrow to use for a Streetcar line. At peak times the 1100 E 2100 S intersection is close to failure now (yes, I know that some of that is caused by finally filling the Sugarhole with a nice project). A 2100 South extension eastward, however, does go to “somewhereâ€; either the Park or Highland High. Also, 2100 South is wide enough to accommodate a Streetcar. As to those who say that 2100 South is not a “pedestrian friendly†street I would point them to successful streetcars such as the E/F line on broad, busy thoroughfares such as Market Street in San Francisco. Also, much of the streetcar system in Amsterdam and Milan runs on wide, crowded roads. Even better than choosing the 2100 South alignment would be to postpone this decision pending the long‐term transportation plan in the next few years which would Peggy Anderson Hi Ed, I do not want a streetcar along 1100 East! I am a citizen. I voted for Ralph Becker and he should represent me. Do the people's opinions count in this decision? Here is why I support other options besides 1100 EAST: • It is narrow and mostly small business owners, PO, to the cupcake shop • It is mostly residential beyond 1700 East ‐ a streetcar lowers home values • There is no destination or park and ride option at 7‐11 ‐ ONLY hotdogs, salt, sugar, and beer. • A "Just do it because we have the money" doesn't show any planning or foresight. I support option B3 ‐ although I am sympathetic to those businesses along 2100 East that will be severly impacted by construction. Wilmington isn't a very busy street now, it would make sense to take the trax line up this street ‐ into the park‐ and then up 2100. People and streetcars create accidents. Adding to the congestion of an already congested intersection/pedestrian crossing zone isn't a good idea. I think your money would be best spent going up 2100 East. The 21‐21 business shopping area would welcome a stop ‐ plus if you extended it into the huge Walmart parking lot you could have a destination and a place for people living south (Draper) and east (Park city) of there to park their cars and still get into the city, without adding to the summer and winter pollution. Jennifer Fraser Parrish Dear City Council Member, I write to voice my opposition to the proposal to run the Sugar House street car down 1100 East to 1700 South, for many of the same reasons already stated by so many other citizens. First, there is simply no room for the street car in the narrow corridor north of 2100 South, and from what I understand, the businesses in that corridor are not in favor of the proposal because they fear that they will not survive the construction. While the streetcar may bring new business after completion, that same goal could be accomplished by having the streetcar nearby, but not actually in the corridor. Second, while I understand the proposal might benefit the students and staff of Westminster, I believe that a greater and more diverse portion of the residents of Salt Lake City will be served by the alternative route proposals. Finally, this is (obviously) a very costly project. It seems that in the future, a line that is already headed toward the East bench will better accommodate expansion. I live right in the heart of Sugar House on 2204 South 1000 East. The current end of the streetcar on McClelland is mere feet from my front door. I have been very patient with all the changes and construction just next to my house, including because I see a rationale for extending the rail system east to Sugar House. However, the proposal to send the line down 1100 East just doesn’t make sense. Please vote against the proposal to send the Sugar House street car down 1100 East to 1700 South. Lex Hemphill Dear Councilman Luke, As late as I am in submitting my comment on the Sugar House Streetcar Phase II issue that you will consider today, that is how premature I believe the City is in insisting on choosing a streetcar route (either 11th East or 21st South) before a transportation master plan is completed. I am not in favor of either proposed alignment, and I hope you choose to hold such a decision until after the study is completed. I disagree with the Salt Lake Tribune editorial of 10 days ago, in which the argument seemed to be that the prospect of federal dollars dictates a trigger decision now. That is a cart‐before‐the‐horse argument that fails logic. It also seems especially specious now, given the level of public opposition to both proposed alignments. It is sad that the City’s “public outreach†effort has managed to pit Sugar House residents in the 11th East area against those in the 21st South area, as if foisting the unwanted streetcar on the other guys would save them from having it in their own neighborhood. Given the tenor of comments at the April 23 City Council meeting and at the May 1 Sugar House Community Council meeting, it would be fair to say that Sugar House residents oppose both proposed streetcar alternatives. One more note: In the neighborhood infighting created by this issue, one argument for choosing the 21st South alternative is that it would serve Sugar House Park users. Please don’t be fooled by this claim. One of the primary issues before the Sugar House Park Authority board over the last decade has been the Parley’s Trail plan that would create the Draw, allowing access to the Park, under 13th East, from the Sugar House business district. So, wherever the Phase I streetcar line ends in the Highland Drive/21st South area, riders will easily be able to access the park on foot, through Hidden Hollow and the Draw. They will not need a 21st South streetcar to get there. Pedestrian access to the Park was the point of the Draw. Thank you for your attention and consideration. Bill Holt Hello Charlie, I am a resident of the district in which you serve. As you probably know, there has been a large effort to inform the Sugarhouse residents of the proposed Streetcar extension. I would like to go on record as one who opposes any extension from the Phase 1 termination point. There is no need for it, and existing transportation solutions can be used more efficiently to meet the growing needs in the area. I strongly encourage you, and the rest of the city council, to delay any vote on this issue, until more thorough evidence has been presented, the proper impact studies have been done, and the affected residents of Sugarhouse have been given a full voice in this matter. Jill and Gavin anderson I just read in the paper that you are in favor of bringing the streetcar up 2100 South to 1700 East. WHY????? Now I know why your response to me (see below) was so vague, whereas Soren actually replied with interesting information. IF you do vote for an extended streetcar, which you should not if you are representing your neighborhood constituents, please give me one good reason to bring it into a residential area where it is not needed and will create so many problems with Highland students (the majority of which will not use the trolley and will be trying get around it as inexperienced drivers). What are you thinking? Your responses to the Walmart issue made so much sense and that is why I was excited to vote for you, but choosing to run the trolley up 2100 South makes no sense, so please let me know why you would do that! Sheila Pryor Dear Councilperson Luke: I am a frequent (daily) user of public transportation that is on 2100 S and the other cross‐secting streets in the main sugarhouse area. I have been reading and listening to the arguements concerning the path the street car might take. It is logical that is should transverse 1100 E. Instead of being a deterrent to business transactions, the 1100 E path should, instead, be a boon to business'. There is a healthy 'ally' system already in place for 1100 E. That could be improved for residents and business', including the USPS. Having the street car transverse from the pool area to 400 South would cause the area lying next to Barnes & Noble to be a walking area, which, I understand, is one of the goals for the Sugar House area, now being considered. The other walking area would be the next few blocks adjacent to the USPS, which, I frequently walk. Would traffic be congested? I think not. Those in automobiles would use a different route or routes to accomplish their end destinations. Would traffic then be thrown on adjacent streets? Not with careful planning by the City Council. Sincerely, Sheila Pryor 1837 E Kensington Ave SLC Cynthia Walkenhorst Here's a thought....how about the city using the money for this project and pay for our home and contents to be restored. We're still waiting for the city to approve our home being done from the sewage backup on 2100 S. and Wilmington, almost 2 months ago! Does anyone remember when an accident shut down I‐80 not long ago and all the traffic was diverted to 2100 S? Probably not, because you don't live on the street. How about the 4 accidents within the past 2 1/2 years on 20th E. and 2100 S., 3 of which came up on our property? We had 3ft. of our privacy shrubs taken out. It is a very conjested main thoroughfare and I can't imagine it with 2 lanes less! We've lived here for 24 years, going through many changes. We have seen crime rise drastically, not to mention dristruction of property with foot traffic increasing through the neighborhood. We don't need any more! Please preserve the good that we still have. I guaranty if you lived on 21st S. you would NEVER want a trolley invading your street! y , j Jennifer and Tyson Linford incredibly concerned about having a streetcar in Sugarhouse on 1100 East , but we are far more concerned about a line running up 21st South. For the following reasons we are OPPOSED to a streetcar line on 2100 South. 1. 1. 2100 South is the main road out of our neighborhood. It is our main thoroughfare to I‐80 and I‐215, really to anywhere in the city. Generally, it runs pretty smoothly with the 2 lanes of traffic in both directions. However during peak hours, like morning and afternoon commute, it is congested enough that it can be difficult to cross without a trolley line! 2. 2. I commute each morning to Bountiful via I‐80. Many mornings it takes me 2 to 3 lights to get through the double turn lane from 2100 S. to 1300 E. Before you decide to run a trolley line up 2100 S., sit and watch the traffic in the morning, at lunch, and in the afternoon. That would create a complete mess at an already busy intersection! Not just a mess, it would be a complete nightmare! 3. 3. There is no need for a trolley on 2100 S. It is not a destination stop. It is the main thoroughfare to quiet neighborhoods. We don’t need the noise and congestion that it will create on our streets. 4. 4. It is naÃˉve to think that people on the east side will give up their cars to ride a trolley line to connect to a trax line to get downtown. Our east side neighborhood is well serviced by bus lines to the University of Utah and downtown, not to mention one of the main bus lines runs down 2100 South. We don’t need a streetcar! 5. 5. In an effort to make our areas more biker/green friendly, aesthetically pleasing, commuter friendly, etc. the city tried to ‘improve’ Guardsman Way a few years ago. They took a street with steady traffic, like 2100 S., that had 2 lanes in each direction, also like 2100 S, and took out two of the lanes in favor of large median and bike lanes. Well, it didn’t help anything! It made my 10 minute drive to the University of Utah a 20 minute drive because I was backed up in a single lane of traffic. It did exactly the opposite of making it ‘be er.’ Now there are the same amount of cars using the narrower street, which means that they are idling longer and creating more pollution. I foresee the same thing happening on 2100 S. That defeats the entire argument that a streetcar will reduce car emissions and help with our pollution issue! BALONEY! It will just further snarl traffic and leave the same amount of cars idling longer! 6. 6. Many of our neighbors just had the city sewer line back up into their homes, destroying their possessions and structures. Why is the city WASTING money on a trolley line that no one will Janae Wallace Hello councilman Luke, I am writing to voice my opinion on the future location of the sugarhouse street car. I prefer the 21st south extension on that wider street. I ride my bike for commuting and worry about the narrow road on 11th east and the potential hazards that could exist with having a street car on that quiet road. Also, in the future, I'd like to see an eventual connection from a 21st south line to meet Foothill Blvd, as we own a home right off Foothill (1376 south 2200 east is our address). Thanks for your time, Ken Jameson Mr. Luke: I haven't paid too much attention to the extension debate until a week or two ago. But in looking at the options, I really can't fathom how the extension along 11th East makes any sense. It goes nowhere and will cause havoc on that street. So I would hope that you will vote for the 21st South extension if it comes to a vote. Susan Murray Mr Luke, I apparently am no longer in your city council district, but since I am one of the individuals who voted to elect you originally, I felt I had justification to write to you as well as my current city council rep. Just want to express my opinion that there should not be any further expansion of the streetcar line beyond what is already under construction. I am not in favor of further urbanization of Sugarhouse. There have been many housing projects approved and under construction. There are businesses being developed in a small area. We are already being heavily impacted by this development, don't then force us away from our own home‐town area by impacting traffic flow more. Don't send me to Millcreek or downtown to do my shopping, etc. I have yet to hear how much it will cost to ride the streetcar line. With a one‐way fare on UTA at $2.50, I don't see riding the streetcar as a regular alternative for me especially when the time factor is added in. There has been some comment about Westminster students wanting to ride to school. Since there are currently bus lines which run on 1300, 1100 and 900 East as well as 2100 and 1700 South, I fail to see how that would even enter into consideration as a need, and likewise I don't see how the city can consider the streetcar a need. This is a case of "if it's not broke, don't fix it." Let's not throw tax money, time, effort and the success of current businesses out in favor of something that will bring it's own set of problems. Please make your vote a "NO" vote on expanding the streetcar line beyond the current area where there is already a right‐of‐way for it. Stop it before we expend more money that our government doesn't have to spend! Lacey Bruschke and Brad Bruschke Opposed on the streetcar altoghether. Buses are less expensive and more practical use of space. The lanes on both routes will negitively effect the surrounding area. Susan Tynes opposed to the 2100 south streetcar route. David Croft Not enough business on 2100 South. All the homes real estate value will go down. Traffic is already really bad on 2100 South. It is already so congested at all. Safety for children. People will drive into a neighborhood to avoid 2100 South. Jill VanLeeuwen Opposed to the 2100 South streetcar route. It would be detrimental to the neighborhood. It is dangerous to all school going children. Going from 4 lanes to 2 lanes is not a good idea the area is already congested as is. Annika Cook Strongly opposed to the streetcar route 2100 South. The crime rate will go up significantly. Childrens safety in walking to school will be compromised. The streetcar will bring in a whole different crowd into the neighborhood. Mark Cook Opposed to the 2100 South streetcar route. The majority of my neighborhood is against this route. Melisa & Scott Romney We are opposed to the 2100 South streetcar route. It is dangerous to the school going kids. It will be impossible for them to cross the street without getting hurt. The area is too much traffic in the area as is. Amy Rigby My biggest concern is about the saftey ofmy children awlking to school With the train it would be woree than it already is. We have been working so hard on making our community coercive between working withone side of 2100 south and the other, the train would be like a wall. I think the train would segregate the two sides of the community. I personally drive carpools all afternoon, and I would not ride the train or send my children on the train. So I think it'll still be just as busy but only with one lane of traffic. Lex Hemphill Dear Jill, I know that you are on record as supporting the 11th East alternative on the Sugar House Streetcar Phase II issue that you will consider today. Still, you are my City Council representative, and I would like to express to you my feeling that it is premature for the City to insist on choosing a streetcar route (either 11th East or 21st South) before a transportation master plan is completed. I am not in favor of either proposed alignment, and I hope you will consider this viewpoint before voting today. I disagree with the Salt Lake Tribune editorial of 10 days ago, in which the argument seemed to be that the prospect of federal dollars dictates a trigger decision now. That is a cart‐ before‐the‐horse argument that fails logic. It also seems especially specious now, given the level of public opposition to both proposed alignments. It is sad that the City’s “public outreach†effort has managed to pit Sugar House residents in the 11th East area against those in the 21st South area, as if foisting the unwanted streetcar on the other guys would save them from having it in their own neighborhood. Given the tenor of comments at the April 23 City Council meeting and at the May 1 Sugar House Community Council meeting, it would be fair to say that Sugar House residents oppose both proposed streetcar alternatives. One more note: In the neighborhood infighting created by this issue, one argument for choosing the 21st South alternative is that it would serve Sugar House Park users. Please don’t be fooled by this claim. One of the primary issues before the Sugar House Park Authority board over the last decade has been the Parley’s Trail plan that would create the Draw, allowing access to the Park, under 13th East, from the Sugar House business district. So, wherever the Phase I streetcar line ends in the Highland Drive/21st South area, riders will easily be able to access the park on foot, through Hidden Hollow and the Draw. They will not need a 21st South streetcar to get there. Pedestrian access to the Park was the point of the Draw. Thank you for your attention, and thank you for representing us in District Five. I know these are difficult issues. Wendy Carrigan Opposed all together. • Really opposed to street car • Damaging to neighborhood • Dangerous for the kids who cross the street to go to school, Dillworth & Highland Brent Verhaaren Hi Jill: Thanks again for your responsiveness and help. I spent some time talking with neighbors, ready as much as I could (the memo/briefing to the council from March was really insightful), and thinking through all the possibilities. In the long run, it seems like the City made good faith efforts to reach out to the community. In my opinion, the failure is probably with the Sugar House Community Council and the fact that we as residents aren't involved enough in it. That's a whole other issue in and of itself. That said, I think that now that people are becoming aware of the issue, they're pretty adamant about the route not going down 11th. It's my hope that the Council will decide to provide more time, which will hopefully allow for more awareness and education and community feedback. I'm aware that is probably a frustrating request when the city has made a good faith effort to get the community involved. It reminds me of when we spend a lot of time letting our Sales team know about marketing campaigns we're working on and executing, and then they come complaining later that they didn't know about them. I admit that in these situations, I think, "What more do you want? Try paying attention sometime!" But, I've found that when I ask them about the best ways to inform them, I get valuable insight into how to work with them in the future. Of course, changing and adjusting doesn't always work and there are some that it wouldn't matter what you do, they just don't get it. But often, we find legitimate gaps in our communication efforts and/or ways to improve. It's my sincere belief that for whatever reason, the community and my neighborhood as a whole just never got a whiff of what was going on until a few weeks ago. That's certainly our problem, "our bad," but I hope that in the spirit of how crucial it is to get this transit plan right, that you and the council will give us more time. A few of us here are in the process of moving from years of talking about organizing a neighborhood association to finally doing it. When we have that in place, we'd love to have you come and address us and provide input if you're willing. Thanks again for your time. I know it's precious, and I imagine that tomorrow it will become even more so. Dennis Van Leeuwen Street is far to busy, far to busy, very congested in morning and evening Street not large enough for a two way track system No one has demonstrated why the tracks need to go that far east From 1300 east and up, gets into residential no businesses Laura Gray Hi Jill. Thanks for your responses you emails. My opinion on 1100 east as a person living half a block from it is summarized well by George Chapman in the trib. I have been worried about impact on biking and know from personal experience in Geneva how bad tracks are for bikes. Thanks for all you do. Laura Gray Bruce Baird y y p p y g y interested, mindless and repetitive nature of most of the comments made at public meeting. I know that you get more of these messages than you likely ever read. I also, generally, respect the professionals that give you guidance on complicated technical issues. However, a long‐term planning decision like the future route of the proposed Sugarhouse Streetcar extension in an area where I live and work is something I feel a need to comment on. Especially since I think that you are about to make a potentially huge mistake. First, the inevitable bona fides. I live and work in Sugarhouse and have done so for the last 20 years. I drive (in a Prius) both 1100 East and 2100 South between 1700 East and 1100 East an average of twice per day. I have used streetcars in San Francisco, New Orleans, Vancouver, Toronto, Amsterdam and Milan. My work specializes in real estate development often involving transportation issues. I have also spent a considerable amount of time online researching this question Except in major, long‐established cities, the most common phrase that pops up in discussion of historic and modern streetcar lines is that a line “runs from [a notable place] to [another notable place]â€. That phrase would not be true of the 1100 North extension unless you count Finn’s Restaurant (which is really nice by the way as I am sure many of you know) as a northerly destination. Anyone who tries to tell you that the line runs to Westminster does not understand transportation. No one will take a bus or Trax or Front Runner to the Streetcar to 170o South and then walk to Westminster. Research shows that it is almost impossible to get Americans to make more than two changes of modes of transportation and devilishly hard to get them to make even two. 1100 East is far too narrow to use for a Streetcar line. At peak times the 1100 E 2100 S intersection is close to failure now (yes, I know that some of that is caused by finally filling the Sugarhole with a nice project). A 2100 South extension eastward, however, does go to “somewhereâ€; either the Park or Highland High. Also, 2100 South is wide enough to accommodate a Streetcar. As to those who say that 2100 South is not a “pedestrian friendly†street I would point them to successful streetcars such as the E/F line on broad, busy thoroughfares such as Market Street in San Francisco. Also, much of the streetcar system in Amsterdam and Milan runs on wide, crowded roads. Even better than choosing the 2100 South alignment would be to postpone this decision pending the long‐term transportation plan in the next few years which would Deana Agbor I am opposed to the 2100 South route of the streetcar. I have spent alot of money on our home and with this streetcar it will decrease the value of our home. Our kids love going to the park and the streetcar route down 2100 south will change all that. Katherine Orchard opposed the 21st south option. 1100 east‐2100 east already congested and dangerous for her kids. Why do we need it, people in the area do not take transportation option anyway. Mike Clamson This message is from Mike Clamson, who is opposed to the 21st streetcar alignment due to possible rezoning, safety hazards for school kids, and the possibility of closing the school. His number is 801‐ 699‐4791 if you would like to talk with him about it further. Scott Romney I am opposed to any streetcar above 1300 East. I don't understand why they would put a streetcar into residential neighborhoods. I would be happy if they didn't do it at all. They should just end it at the granite block. Laura Gray Hi Jill. Thanks for your responses you emails. My opinion on 1100 east as a person living half a block from it is summarized well by George Chapman in the trib. I have been worried about impact on biking and know from personal experience in Geneva how bad tracks are for bikes. Thanks for all you do. Laura Gray Susan Koelliker Against 2100 south. Has 5 kids who cross 21st south to go to school. I have watched the bus service for 5 days and the most people that have been on the bus was 4. I know there are uses for it but not in there neighborhood. Tax payers are voicing there comments, listen. The 1100 east niegborhood have had a chance to voice there concern now it is our turn on 2100 south to voice ours. WHy are we just learning about this? Amber McClellan Charlie, This is from Brittany Lampson, 2100 South 1600 East, calling to urge you to vote against the 2100 South alignment. She feels that this will destroy the neighborhoods and Highland High, not help. They live in a family neighborhood and don’t want a streetcar! Elizabeth Nielsen I am concerned for my children's safety in crossing 2100 south to school. I am opposed to the 2100 South streetcar route. Traffic concerns. It is already congested as is. Traffic will be re‐directed into the neighborhood to avoid 2100 South. Robert Baird I am concerned about the 2100 South streetcar route. It is not safe for kids to cross the streetcar crossing. I love the idea of the streetcar but it just seems to me that people can walk instead of taking streetcar. There are many schools in the area. Mike Lambson I'm just in opposition ot the streetcar expansion on 2100 South going east. My biggest concern is, I live one b lock north of 2100 s on 1600 E and we just remodeled and put 200, 00 in that remodel, My biggest concern is the nieghborhoods when they do the zoning change with the streetcar expansion. I am worried so many homes iwll be gone and chuildren will be out of those homes, and the schools will disappear and the elementary and middle shcool. I've seen that with Granite high school and south high school. When zoning laws change and the beighborhoods don't become neighborhoods, and it becomes adult priented socieites with no schools and a lot of it has to do with zoning changes. Laurie Reed Dear Counsil Members, Please do not put the street car down Eleventh East. We do not want it anywhere near us. There are no benefits to any of us ‐‐ we have buses. It is a waste of money. Please listen to the residents and vote no. Thank you. Laurie Reed Hillary Taylor melinda Smith Opposed to the 2100 South streetcar route. I'm just not for it (2100 South). Heather Boyce Very strongly against the 2100 South streetcar route. We have kids who have to cross that street already which is dangerous as is. It is not safe for our children. We do not want the streetcar! Kathryn Connor I would jsut ask them to vote no. I live in the country club area. I have three children who attend dilworth, yhillside and highland. I run, we ride bies and teen driers, I'm just not interested in the added danger. It is dangerous enough, I would plead that they vote no. Heather Theurer Opposed to 2100 sotuh. Kids go to Dillworth and Highland, unsafe for my kids to cross the street. I hav a new driver, 16 year old boy i am very concerned for his safety. Marcia Webber 1. Wheren would you be transporting them too? just remember this is children crosssing the streeet to go to 2100 Southg. They already close our neihghoboorhood. Very very against it. I am pro business and pro p[rograess but I am so against this not only because I live in the area but I am trying to understand the logic of it. Traffic is already bad. And I don't khow if people have brought that up, and 2100 South is scary as it isand it would be even more scary. Comment Line ‐ No Name Opposed to the 2100 South streetcar. The costs are not good, ugly and I think we should just use buses. It will make our neighborhood ugly. Jamie Slack This is a nice neighborhood ‐ We DON'T need more congestion on 2100 South with an added trax line. PLEASE DO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ‐ Have you contacted any of the neighbors that this will affect? I believe in having it down in the business district BUT NOT in the neighborhood. Heidi Bennett Opposed to 2100 south‐ extremly poor idea to put a train next to a high shool and a residential neighborhood. Kids cross the street to get to schoold. Listen to your constituents, let the public vote. Ray Menasco I would like to offer my opinion on the sugarhouse streetcar proposal. I am AGAINST it going NORTH past 2100 South on 1100 East. I am FOR a streetcar going EAST from 1100 East on 2100 South. My reasons are as follows: 1. There is already a bus route that is sufficient on 1100 East. 2. It would cause a drastic reduction in business for the small business owners on 1100 East, more that likely ending some of their business endeavors and closing them down. 3. 1100 East is a narrow street already, the addition of a streetcar will slow traffic, and probably congest the flow even more. 4. If a north‐south streetcar is needed it would be much better served on 700 East which would not hamper traffic if routed properly and would connect Sugarhouse via the East‐West streetcar at approx 2250 South 700 East with the 400 South Trax. If an East‐West Streetcar is built it would service 2100 South to Foothill Blvd, which could then Service a Foothill Streecar to 1. Foothill Plaza, 2. This is the place monument, 3. Hogle Zoo 4. Red Butte Gardens and the hook up on 5. The U of U campus with Trax. With that scenario we have a mini belt route of Street cars. Thank you for taking time for my viewpoint. Ray Menasco Sugarhouse home owner and resident since 1989. Stacy St. George Against 2100 S. I lived the country club neighborhood and I am against that because I am against the traffic walking to dilworth. The consenus is if we wanted a house downtown we would have bought a house downton. We value the quiet atmosphere and thats why we pay to live here. Lynn Harrison Is concerned with the aftermath of the 2100 south streetcar and the commercial development on 2100 south. Would like to see more public notice of streetcar to the public. Opposed to the 2100 south streetcar. Alta Hales Comment Line ‐ No name I live on 2100 East and I am ocncerned about my kids crossing 21st and 21st crossing to dilworthg in the morning. It is already dangerous, Ib can't imagine the crossing guards having to deal with kids. The traffic will get congested. I will send my kids to a private school so they don't have to cross 21st sSouth. Opposed to 11th East Streetcar. Morgan Daines Ron Pynes Comment Line ‐ No name I'm against the 2100 S for the strongest possible terms. First of all for the saftey for childrenthere are a lot of kids in the bieghborhood, it'll add traffic which is also unsafe for kids, they will ahve to take a lane or two out, I commute on a bike and I think it'll be more unsafe on bike. I am opposed to the 2100S Street Car. Opposed to 11th East streetcar route. Kim Brightwelll I oppose it coming up 21st because it will impact our children and our smaller community field. i think it is a great option and there is a better route. I think it could bring more business to that area. There are so many kids and so many schools, and I think it won't keep that community feel. Kristen Okland Opposed on the 2100 south streetcar route. The road is not wide enough. Population in this area does not warrnt a streetcar, everyone owns a car. This neighborhood probably wont utilize the streetcar and there really isnt a good reason for the streetcar to come this way. We have kids and and I am really concerned about their safety in crossing the street to school. Heather Dallimore It is imparative that the kids are able to cross the street to get to school safetly. I am opposed to the 2100 South streetcar route. As a real estate agent who works in this area, the change in the neighborhood will hurt the value by having the streetcar. Poor judgement on the Council if they vote in favorof the 2100 south route. I believe that there are more important issues that the Council could focus their time on than this special interest streetcar project. Rick Larsen I am getting the impression that Council isn’t hearing our voices on Crescent street. I am concerned for the safety of this kids in our neighborhoods and getting to school safely. I am opposed to the 2100 South streetcar route. I hope you can really vote in favor of your constituents. Julie Bush Opposed to the 2100 South streetcar route. It would make it difficult for kids to make it to school. Very dangerous. Memet I'm complaining about having the trax streetcar go up 2100 s. We live in this area and we oppose it. Melissa Sipherd Melissa Sipherd called to say she is against the 21st south streetcar due to it causing congestion on the streets and she wants the area to stay residential. Jo Ann Freemn Hello again, There are several of us that live along 2100 South, east of Sugarhouse Park, that are against the Streetcar running up this way. There is no destination for it up east on 2100 South and we already have so much noise and congestion up this way, small children everywhere. I believe that a couple of small commuter buses would work just as well and cost so much less then this Street car idea. We have lived in our house here for 20 years, like most of the residents in Sugarhouse and I think this is not the place to add a Streetcar, nor is it the place to start building all these high rise apartments and office buildings. We are not downtown SLC and nor do we wish to be. We know that Sugar House was meant to be pedestrian friendly also, but, they are building everything so close to the street instead of back from the sidewalks that it is beginning to feel claustrophobic and adding a street car would just enhance that feeling, along with the traffic it gets. Has anyone taken a look at the Holiday area on Holiday Blvd. and about 53rd south or so to see how it should be done?? They really should. It is a nice place to be and walk around. They have kept the buildings back from the streets, made the intersection nice and big; it has a good feeling to it when you are there. Please do not consider the Sugar House area for this Street car, it may have had its place way back when, but not now. Concerned residents, J F No name You're going to need 2 street cars to properly schedule stops. It's something to think about. I think there should be one streetcar that goes along highland, and another that goes along 1100 e and up on 2100 s. Mike Lampson Mike Lampson called to register his opposition to the 2100 South streetcar. Here is a summary of his comments: • Lives on 1600 East (just north of 2100 south) • He opposes the streetcar expansion on 2100 south • Streetcar will cause drastic problem with school system • Neighborhoods will be affected by future zoning changes, homes will be replaced by businesses, moving families out of the area. • Keep residential neighborhoods intact • Streetcar not needed on 2100 south No name I have a comment regarding the 2100 s streetcar, very much opposed to it. Very much opposed to s astreet there are no businesses between 1500 e 2300 e. Its neighborhood; a suburban area, not an urban area. There are already buses that are empty that go up 2100 s. UTA is already too costly We don't need to spend money to put in something that isn't being utilized. Rick Larsen Rick Larsen asking to reconsider 2100 South streetcar alignment. Will be detrimental to neighborhood. Cindy Ting I don't think the trolley should go up 2100 s. I don't think it should go north on 1100 e. I don't think we should have a trolley at all in Sugar House. Dave Croft I see no reason to have a streetcar travel on 2100 South east. I believe this is a safety issue for all. This will only push cars into the neighborhoods. I doesn’t feel that a streetcar will be utilized by residents along 2100 South and will be a waste of money. Brittany Barth I am opposed to the 2100 south route. I rather have more buses and bus stops that will help with transportation. By having the streetcar come up this way will be hazardous for children who need to commute to school. The traffic in this area is much too congested as is. Right now the kids can play on the sidewalks, with the streetcar it will detour people into the neighborhoods to avoid 2100 South. It is not bicyclist friendly. Extremely opposed. Arthur King I want to completely Discourage expansion of the trolley to either 1100 e or 2100 s. As a former employee of the Division of Air quality, i can assure the council that increasing the congestion with the street car won't help the air quality. Deb Henry Please vote NO on the 1100 East motion. There is so, so much opposition to the alignment at our community council meetings and committee meetings. I am concerned that moving forward with the 1100 East line will hurt public process in that people will not believe that our elected officials listen to us. We want more people participating and more people taking responsibility for participation in our government. By not taking their concerns seriously, we will effectively be telling them that their participation does not matter. There are huge benefits to 2100 South alignment including five schools in proximity to 2100 South as well as the park which has been under‐valued/ not valued in the study. We have the opportunity to encourage a whole new generation of transit riders. While I would appreciate having a city‐wide transportation plan in place, the Sugar House transportation plan from 2001 clearly states that we should be heading east to Foothill. In addition, during my time at UDOT as an engineer, it was brought to my attention that Foothill has huge congestion issues that could be mitigated with better access to transit. Sugar House is experiencing a large increase in dense residential units in proximity to 2100 South. We need to address congestion issues and improve the density of our travel within existing right of ways. Though I personally already avoid the area, the congestion is going to get much worse without more transit. My lungs and the lungs of my students have had enough of the pollution caused by dependence on automobiles. We deserve better and we can have better under your leadership. Thank you for your consideration. Deb Henry Trustee, Sugar House Community Council No name Opposed to the 2100 s. streetcar, I think it needs to be bettert planned out. Opposed to 1100 e. We are residents, we live in Sugar House. Scott Romney Opposed to 2100 South streetcar alignment. Would prefer to not extend streetcar line beyond phase 1. Brian Randle I am opposed to the 2100 south streetcar route. Ron Pines Opposed to 2100 South streetcar alignment. Brittany Lambson Opposed to 2100 South streetcar alignment. Nancy Colt I am against 21st s, its so busy anyways. It would make it ridiculous to travel from their house to businesses. Its going to make it more congested, we live in this neighborhood to get away from the big town. This is not what the neighborhood wants. Melissa Larsen I am concerned with the 2100 south route. It is a concern because of all the schools in the area. It is so dangerous for kids to cross the street and for new high school drivers to be driving around the streetcar. Garbage day would be so much more congested on the streets up here with the streetcar. Highland HS, Hillside Middle, Dilworth Ele, Catholic Private School in the area and that is not safe at all for the kids. No name I think you should do more study before you put a streetcar on 2100 s. or 1100 e. Sarah Clinger They do not want the streetcar going up 2100 s. Our concern is that you're not reading our comments. I ask that you do not vote for the streetcar to go up 2100 s. The traffic is already crazy from college and high school kids. Shelly Tingey I am strongly opposed to 2100 south streetcar route. Its already so congested and very dangerous for kids who are walking to school. Nancy Jensen I am opposed to 2100 south streetcar route. It is already congested as is and the streetcar will crowd it up even more. Ruth Strong The proposed trolley will simply make a bad traffic situation worse‐‐‐there streets are not wide enough to handle traffic, let alone add a trolley car that will use up valuable traffic space. There aren't parking areas for stops, there is danger to pedestrians, bikes & cars, not to mention that there just isn't a need for this mode of transportation in this area. Holly Chamberlain Against the 21st S alignment. Everyone in the neighborhood is against it. Feels it will be a safety issue for the children in the neighborhood. Mike Lambson An opposition comment for the expansion of the streetcar up 2100 s. I don't see any need or necessity that would compensate for neighborhoods deshoveled and students being lost at schools. New families won't want to move into the area. Cathy Gill I am in favor of bringing it only to 1700 e. Any further than that would be detrimental to our neighborhood and to our children. Ruth Strong The proposed trolley will simply make a bad traffic situation worse‐‐‐there streets are not wide enough to handle traffic, let alone add a trolley car that will use up valuable traffic space. There aren't parking areas for stops, there is danger to pedestrians, bikes & cars, not to mention that there just isn't a need for this mode of transportation in this area. Stacie Sears Thumbs down. I have watched various attempts (successful and unsuccessful) allowing creep and sprawl try to gain a stronger foothold at the 2100 South/2100 East business node. The business node at 21st and 21st was never meant to be bigger than it is. A Rail will open the gates to creep and sprawl up and down 2100 South and across 2100 East. No. Debby Nielsen Opposed to 2100 South. Have lived in the area for over 40 years. The area is already develeoped commercially. Worried about the safety of all the children with the streecar in the area. Mike Reardon Against the street car, both routes. He is a UTA bus driver and feels that the bus serves the area adequately. Doug Murray Opposed to moving forward with the streetcar at this time either on 2100 s. or 1100 e. I think there should be more discussion incorporated into the master plan. Please do not move forward with either of these options. No name The 2100 s option is ridiculous, you need to stop Soren Simonsen from doing this. I hope somebody replaces him next year. Vicki Daynes AGainst the railway going up 2100 s. Thank you. Kathy Roos Opposed to 2100 South alignment. Lives on 2100 South. Would have been more involved in process, but were dealing with backup of City sewer line. Holly Chamberlain I am opposed to the 2100 south route. I live on 22east and 22south. My kids walk to school and it is nerve wracking to think they would have to cross accross the a added streetcar. All my neighbors are against it. Wallace I and other neighbors are opposed to this idea, based on the safety of our children. More development coming up that street where children already have to cross a busy street near Dilworth, it is extremely concerning to me. This neighborhood is full of children and I want my council member to represent me. y p y g pp p p g Dave Wolff trax line route up to Sugarhouse Park, and east to 2300 east. I am a long time resident of Sugarhouse and live off of 2100 east on the proposed east/west route. I am opposed to this route for the following reasons: East of 1700 east is strictly a residential area with neighborhoods consisting of families with children. There are many schools within one mile of 2100 south with thousands of children walking to and from school with friends and younger siblings in tow. The older children from Hillside, Clayton and Highland walk and bike after school. Students not from the immediate neighborhood have used bus transportation for many years without issue or complaint. To that end, we simply do not need more public transportation. The buses that stop along 2100 south above 1700 east are mostly empty – rarely can more that two or three people be counted!! It is completely unclear what transportation necessity is being addressed by the proposal. Rather, it appears that the proposal may be serving business interests that would benefit from this development. Families live here and need to drive because they are not going from point A to point B served by a trax/trolley, but rather they often have numerous places to go with several stops often to other parts of the valley with several people in the car. We are interested in bike lanes and safe walking environment more than people movers. A trolly in this area would cause major traffic congestion. 2100 south from 700 east up to 2300 east is a very busy area especially in the morning until around 9 am as students walk/bike/drive/scooter to school, then picking up again around 2:30 as Highland releases students, and then a steady stream with Dilworth, Hillside and the other schools release students to again flood the area as they head home. I am very concerned about the safety issues associated with having an essentially unstoppable trax/trolley in the immediate vicinity of students as young as 5 years old, not to mention the incredible congestion, confusion and accidents that will accompany the trax/trolley. The four lanes that currently exist are in full use most of the time, and it is extremely difficult to imagine where and how the trax/trolley will fit into the current traffic patterns. When I am heading home and on 2100 s heading east during those times and need to turn north into my driveway there are often over 10 cars stopped behind me while I wait for oncoming traffic to subside so I can turn. It works now because there are four lanes that allow for traffic to move well. To reduce lanes or inhibit traffic from moving would cause horrific traffic jams. In this regard, it seems that you Dana Evans Vote against the railway going up 2100 s because most of the children i say, 99% of the children have cars and drive. We've already had adults hit by the railways in downtown. I walk across the street to get groceries, and you won't be able to cut through 2100 s to walk to fresh market. I'll have to go to the major intersection to get home. Nancy Olsen I am not in favor of the trolley car coming up 2100 s. We have lots of children that walk along 2100 s. I think the trolley will create a lot more traffic and congestion. People will be more anxious and won't feel as safe when they're driving. I feel like our buses are sufficient in this area, esp since they're not full. We don't need more access to this area. Anonymous Opposed to the 2100 south due to the many schools and the kids crossing the streets with this streetcar. Congestion in the area will be even worse with the addition to the streetcar. Most people in our community already have cars and we will have to go to a major intersection to get to our homes. 99% of the kids in our area drive their own cars. We dont need public transit because we live in the city. Jana Proctor No name Opposing the 2100 s. I'm not fond of that area being anymore congested. I'm concerned that schools and neighborhoods will be destructed and unwanted people will come near those areas. Against the trolley coming up 2100 s. John Remington My wife and I are against of any further expansion of the streetcar in sugar house. Its a waste of money, and it'll interfere with our traffic. Nik Christensen y y discussion surrounding the Sugarhouse streetcar line. I feel that there is a major opportunity for the advancement of the Sugarhouse streetcar that has received little to no mention anywhere in the media, council discussions, or community feedback sessions. I have a suggestion for the Council to consider. Instead of choosing 1100 East or continuing the Streetcar up 2100 South ‐ why not run the line north on 1300 East? 1300 East may be a busy street already but the opportunity to revamp (including upgrading 1300 East to Flex Lanes‐like on 5400 South in Taylorsville‐to help accommodate increased traffic flows in the morning & evenings) the already congested 1300 East is a golden opportunity that would help rejuvenate a clustered residential/commuter area. By continuing the streetcar line East on Sugarmont Drive, crossing over Highland at Sugarmont, continue further East on Wilmington Avenue eventually turning North on 1300 East at the intersection of Wilmington Ave and 1300 East ‐ the line would then go north on 1300 East linking (eventually/hopefully) up to the existing Trax Red Line at the intersection of 500 South and 1300 East near the University of Utah. The reason why I feel the urge to submit my public comment is that I feel the battle over the 11th East, 21st South options has been in bad taste and quite silly really from both the community standpoint and the councils standpoint. The streetcar line would not directly serve any function on 1100 East or 2100 South ‐ except to cause increased congestion in an already dense and congested area. What would the transit‐oriented point be to run the line up 2100 South to an exclusively residential area near Sugarhouse Park be? From my point of view there isn't and it would serve no viable transit related purpose. I have discussed this idea with individuals from in and around the area that would be affected and have received warm consideration to my proposal ‐ making me feel all the more encouraged to write to you. The 1300 East option is something that has not been mentioned or even proposed as far as I am aware and I believe that the 1300 East option would provide patrons of the line with the greatest access to community locations such as Westminster College, the businesses around 2100 & 13th, the former Granite block, Sugarhouse Park and most importantly it would directly link two of the nations sterling educational institutions. The University of Utah and Westminster College allowing students, professors, employees, etc the opportunity to ditch their vehicles for the easy to use streetcar. In addition to providing ease of access to all these local Kathy Ruth She is asking that the Council delay the vote to do more research, come talk to the residents. This is where they live, the streetcar will have greater impact on them. She wants to keep the neighborhood residential. Susan Bolinger The advantages of the streetcar do not outweigh what thtis will do to businesses in the area during construction. It will kill the Sugar House area and erase the charming area that it has become. Susan Bollinger Jim Olson I am a resident of the area. There has not been a proper study done for the 2100 south streetcar route. I just dont see how the Council will vote without the proper study done on how the neighborhood will be affected. Willow Jepsen Opposed to 2100 South streetcar alignment. Cited safety concerns. Margy Barker I think this could be a potential problem. There is not enough room on the street. It is already hard to drive up 2100 South as is. It is not safe for the children in the area. There should be a better way to not directly impact the surrounding neighborhood and environment. Jeff Picket Jeff Picket [email protected] I strongly oppose having a trolley line or a trax line run up 2100 S. Primarilymy concernis gonna be kids, both little kids living in the houses along 2100 s and high school kids who attend highland. I’m not aware of any of these trax or trolley lines that run through residential neighborhoods and that is effectively whatthis would be. The traffic is already highly congestion, I doubt people wont use the line. It is my udnerstandingthat it is few bus lines because they are not in use, and if people are already not using public transportation what makes us think they will start using the trolley line. Hadley Saber I just oppose it for various safety reasons going up 2100 South.v Katie Eckles • Believe it will bring more traffic our residential areas • Dangerous for our children who have to cross 2100 south to Dillworth • Safety issue’s for our kids • Highland High, freshman running back and forth to school • This will force me to drive my kids to school every day • Congested and pollution, walk to school on red days, health pollution • All driving to get schools safely, residential neighborhood, mass transit, • Why is there no comprehensive plan? • Talk and talk to connect to the U, there are no studies where this has been approved Angie Boren • Has 4 small kids who cross 2100 south, scared for their safety Bill Brady I have concerns for property value and they going to have to demo those homes and destroy their front yards and I think it’ll devalue their property. My biggest concern is the kids crossing to get to their elementary and junior high. I think the street is wide enough to 1700 East, but it would be really hard Jim Olsen Opposed to 2100 South streetcar alignment. There has been a lack of study, proper communication and planning on this. Hopes for proper dialogue and study of the impacts. Tiffany Leone 2100 south opposed, all together • very concerned safety issues that the sugarhouse street car will bring for students that go to Dillworth and highland high • 2100 south is so congested already this is a horrendous safely concerned • Drivers as well Faith Wallis opposed to 2100 south option • There will be consequences that come along with the street car • neighborhood is full of children • no busing available unless special needs to the three school • adding traffic to this is going to be dangerous for all especially out children • asking for you to vote no on 2100 south street car Alison Larkins About 2100 S above foothill. I go in that area all the time. I am opposed to it; I can see where it might be needed downtown. I don’t see why it would be needed. It would make it more congested and more people would come into our neighborhoods, we want a quiet neighborhood. I am opposed to it. It is ruining downtown in a way. It takes so long to get anywhere. I don’t see how they would even do it, it would traffic so much worse and I don’t think it is needed. SueAnn Jones Opposed to 2100 south option • kids that walk across street to Dillworth and Hilside middle is in grave danger • everyone in neighborhood is against it • please vote against it • focus on our children • when they closed Roseland Heights elementary they promised safe passage for our children please do not make them pass in front of a train. This is not the promised safe passage Adam Hiatt Dear City Council Members – My name is Adam Hiatt. I am the head basketball coach at Westminster College right here in Sugar House. I am married and have three children. We live close to campus on 1520 Redondo Avenue. I am writing to you today to express my opposition to the Sugar House Streetcar proposal to run up 2100 South to 1700 East and beyond. My family and I moved to Sugar House for a great quality of life. Sugar House, Wasatch Hollows, and even University were once great family neighborhoods, but mixed residential/commercial initiatives, coupled with smaller homes and rental properties, drove families south to Holladay, Sandy, and South Jordan. Today, Sugar House and Wasatch Hollows are making a strong comeback. Residents are renovating homes and building additions to accommodate their families. It is becoming once again a desired neighborhood. Certainly 2100 South is a busy corridor with auto and bus traffic. Imagine if a streetcar were constructed. Traffic would increase dramatically, which is not exactly what us fellow residents desire from our neighborhood. It needs to be understood that family neighborhoods do not typically use public transportation, as it is inconvenient to load children and their belongings on a bus or streetcar. That is why councilman LaMalfas’ editorial in the SL Trib is inaccurate, in terms of his reasoning that the Sugar House area is underserved by public transportation. We want it that way. It allows us to transport our families to and from activities in a manner that is both convenient and safe for us. Not every decision from our city council should be made to accommodate businesses. These small businesses located in our neighborhood did so knowing the consequences of said decision and who their likely clientele would be. Please vote on behalf of the residents, who comprise the true foundation of this neighborhood. Help us preserve the integrity of our neighborhood by fostering a strong family community support system. Respectfully, Coach Hiatt Head Men’s Basketball Coach Westminster College 801‐832‐2336 Go Griffins! Nancy Warr • opposed to 2100 south • member of community of 15 years, homeowner • highland high, elementary, junior high great supporting public education • 21000 south crossing through these school zones • Proposes a grave safety concern for all three school zones • Do you want us to support public education or public transportation? • If you want us to support public education stop this railway • Petitions out along 2100 south, have you received them? • Mother of 3 kids who go to all three schools that cross the 2100 south street, I vote NO! Leslie Mingo Opposed to 2100 south • Do not come up to my neighborhood which is 1300 east Darrell Roberts I am a CPA and I have property on 200 E, I got a letter from Sorenson. I just talked to my daughter who lives on Preston Street, she didn’t even get a letter. I am opposed to this thing going east up to 2300E. I don’t object going to 1100 E. I don’t know why the city council and the mayor are so determined to do this when so many p[people are opposed to it including me. It will cause so much traffic and crowds, There are four schools in their neighborhoods. Riding their bikes and walking to school, it will too dangerous for them. I don’t understand why they are doing it, it won’t be of benefit to anyone. It is going to be federal money that is one reason our country is in such a big mess because we are willing to spend federal money. I think this mayor Becker is stupid that is my opinion. My opinion is that it should not be done, stop at 1100 East and let it be done. I don’t even know who would use the trolley line to begin with. SLC used to have trolley lines and they took them off. I was out of hill air force base and I came with my wife and there were car lines over the place. They have since been long gone. We are trying to repeat something that’s been done before. Waste of money without benefit and causing a big problem, and if they are so set on doing it they should put it up for a public vote. Dave Orchard Absolutely against it going up 2100 South. It is too congested and we are a nice residential neighborhood. We don’t need a streetcar going up and down. It should stop at 1100 east and service the U and Westminster. I would like to just keep it a nice residential area, and I live in that vicinity. Absolutely don’t want it. Heather Pickett opposed to 2100 south • Traffic congestion • Safety for our children • No need for it Linn Silver We would really not like to see TRAX come that far. Since Walmart we have had a lot of crime and transients in the neighborhood. We’ve been broken into twice. I am not for the 2100 South extension. I oppose the streetcar going up 2100 South to 2300 E and the reason why is safety and cost. Busses can provide the extra service without the cost of the light rail. And safety for children in the neighborhood is dangerous for automobiles and pedestrians. Stephanie Budge I just strongly opposed I am really worried about my neighborhood being too busy and overcrowded and not safe for my kids that are going to be driving in the next couple years and I’m not interested in any more development in my neighborhood Scott Olsen Opposed to the 2100 South streetcar alignment. He feels 2100 South is already too congested and adding a streetcar will only add to that. He feels phase 1 of the streetcar is a good idea because it is in an existing right of way. Heather Cook Amber Simpson Amy Bradford I live on 2100 E and I just wanted know, I wanted to keep this area a little safe. I think this would bring some potential complications. There are a ton of kids and 4 or 5 schools from 1800 E to 2100 E. I think the potential of bringing these up. I think they should keep it to 1100 E or 900 E. Shelly Stansfield I’m basically against the 2100 South Extension. Michael U. Hansen Council, I am a permanent resident in the area the Sugar House Community Council refers to as the Country Club Area. My wife and I are raising our children here and enjoy the current state of the area. Like all of the neighborhoods in Salt Lake City, the Country Club Area has a unique feel and its own benefits that differ from other areas in this great city. I have lived in various locations (Avenues, Federal Heights, Foothills, University, Capitol) in the city during my life and have enjoyed each one of them for different reasons. What has drawn me to the Country Club Area at this point in my life is a desire to live in a suburb‐like neighborhood, yet remain as close as possible benefits of the diverse neighborhoods of Salt Lake City. I just want to express my desire to keep this area of the city what it has become over the years – a place where families live in single‐family homes, which they own (not rent); where kids walk to school and don't have to worry about "pubs" and crossing the path of mass transit along the way. I love that there are efforts being made to make Salt Lake City more urban and have a bigger city feel in areas, but please leave the Country Club area like a suburb. I am excited for the streetcar in Sugar House. However, I would not like to see it come East of Sugar House Park. I am nervous of the impact the streetcar will have on my children's walk to school and the traffic in our area. Both Dilworth Elementary and Beacon Heights Elementary boundaries cross 2100 South. I am not eager to see six year‐old children on their scooters crossing any type of mass transit tracks on their way to school. Additionally, I worry about the impact it will have on traffic off of 2100 South as drivers cut though the neighborhoods to avoid the tracks. I live on the 2100 block of Oneida Street (2170 E.). I already deal with people speeding down our block to avoid the light at 2100 East & 2100 South. How much more traffic will we have when people are avoiding the tracks? Although not part of the proposed solutions I really think the park is a natural end to the streetcar as you can create a hub there with parking, bus routes, bike trails, and more right there. Above all I hope my objection to the streetcar on 2100 South will lead you to find better ways of utilizing the city's resources. There are a lot of needs in this city that I believe are more important that mass transit in the Country Club area. Also in your future endeavors I hope you attempt to maintain the diversity of the areas inside the city and attempt to maintain the suburban feel of the Country Club area. Thank you for you time, Michael U. Hansen Diane Creamer I STRONGLY OPPOSE the streetcar coming up 2100 South. It is not necessary. There is amble public transportation with the current bus system. What are we gaining with the street car that we can't do with the current bus system?? As a mother of young children, I am especially concerned with increased danger that the streetcar poses to school children. There are six schools with in three blocks of 2100 South and thousands of children that cross 2100 South two times every school day that will be directly impacted by this. It is unthinkable that they would be placed in harms way (additional traffic on side streets, congestion on 2100 S) for a streetcar that is unnecessary and UNWANTED by the majority of people who live in the area. Please respect our wishes and end the tracks line where it is for the time being. Thank you. Suzanne Middleton Dear Salt Lake City Council‐ I live in Sugar House and work at the University of Utah. I have a strong opinion that the proposed streetcar route NOT go up 1100 E, but instead go up 1300 E. This would provide access to the patrons of Sugar House park and still provide service to Westminster College. The street is wider on 13th and makes more sense from a mass transit perspective. The line could eventually be extended to the University of Utah since a majority of people who go to school and work at the University of Utah live in the Sugar House area. This would also be an excellent option to decrease traffic congestion during game days as well. Thank you. Suzie Middleton Diane Creamer I STRONGLY OPPOSE the streetcar coming up 2100 South. It is not necessary. There is amble public transportation with the current bus system. What are we gaining with the street car that we can't do with the current bus system?? As a mother of young children, I am especially concerned with increased danger that the streetcar poses to school children. There are six schools with in three blocks of 2100 South and thousands of children that cross 2100 South two times every school day that will be directly impacted by this. It is unthinkable that they would be placed in harms way (additional traffic on side streets, congestion on 2100 S) for a streetcar that is unnecessary and UNWANTED by the majority of people who live in the area. Please respect our wishes and end the tracks line where it is for the time being. Thank you. Jones, Nathan W. My name is Nathan Jones and I live at 2131 Parkway Ave., SLC, UT 84109. I’m writing to oppose the proposed street cars on 2100 S to the east of 1300 E. I would not oppose street cars in the Sugar House business district. Running street cars to the east of 1300 E. on 2100 S. would be a significant traffic hazard and safety concern (particularly with regard to children attending Dilworth Elementary and Highland High). I also believe street cars would not be used at an efficient level east of 1300 E and would detract significantly from the character of the neighborhoods. sue I live in Sugarhouse. I am concerned about parking our cars in order to pick up the streetcar? Would there be an additional charge for this parking? When I go to the U to pick up TRAX, parking is not allowed in the parking lot, only on the streets. Have you tried parking on the street at the U? There aren't any places. Same for the 9th East/4th South station. Where do we park???? Thank you, Sue Williams George Young Opposed altogether, opposed to 1100 east • We can’t afford to have traffic congestion by someone’s little toy whim • Bus routes go east on 2100 south, the only time they begin to get full is when the high school gets out of school • Bus route on 2100 south last year got cut off after 7 pm because of lack of ridership • Ridership will not be there, tremendous amount of money that it will cost does not make sense • Try to make a left hand turn on 1300 east onto 2100 south is ridiculous • Who is benefiting from this, the Council’s pocket? • Use the money to help out community and kids and homeless Chari Engle Dear Council Members, I am sending this note to encourage you to VOTE NO regarding the 11th East 21st So. Trax project. For the proposed 4 block length I do not think it would be Cost Effective. The funds would be better allocated to direct the Trax farther up along 21st South eventually connecting with the University of Utah & serving those living on the East bench. Passengers could eventually connect with the loop to the U of U and on around to the downtown area. Congestion along 11th East would be inefficient. Cordially, Mrs. Chari Engle Bruce Jenson opposed to 2100 south • Cause congestion • Safety issues • Huge negative • Not wanted at all Erik Herazo Thank you for tackling such a controversial issue. With emotions running as high as they are it will be difficult to come to an objective conclusion on what it is the public is honestly saying. So we wish you the best on that. Nevertheless these are our thoughts. One aspect of this project where there is agreement is that 11th east is overly congested. The longer the city waits to add this mode of transportation in any part of the city the more painful it will be to put it in place. It appears that as far as the 11th East alignment is concerned it is either too late or close to it. So it only makes sense it is addressed first. The way we see it a streetcar will be just one more vehicle blocking the street no more inconveniently than a Hummer or a large SUV. The difference however is that the streetcar will be moving people that otherwise would have been part of the traffic jam we experience in that area. In defense of the opposing businesses, if they don't know how long it will take to complete the part affecting their business it is no wonder they seemed so emotional during the most recent public hearing. It should not be difficult to bring clarity to those concerned about the impact on their business. We are only speaking of the physical aspects of the streetcar presence. However if there are architectural plans to modernize the 11th East moving forward that is another issue. As many of these businesses and residents feel, we also feel the quaint atmosphere available to the public should be preserved. The quirky buildings and the mature trees lining the streets are an important part of the wonderful character of the area. Sincerely, Erik and Marlene Herazo Vallee Stetner pp g p p g both of these streets, slow traffic, cost millions of dollars, change the aesthetics of the area and has not been presented to the public in a timely or accurate manner. The proposal to the streetcar up 1100 E was stated to “service the students of Westminsterâ€. This is a ridiculous waste of tax payer money to save college students a four block walk. The proposal by Soren Simonsen to run the street car up 2100 S is further folly with the sole purpose of financing the project through increased property taxes specifically for those homeowners located in the route area. There will be NO federal funding for this project. The cost of the project lays solely on the shoulders of the property owners of Sugar House. The residents of Sugar House pay higher taxes all the while losing values on their homes. We have a mass transit system in place in Sugar House. It is called our bus system and it runs far below capacity daily. Honesty in advertising ‐ In the marketing of the Phase 2 Proposals: All studies used COMMERCIAL property as examples. These streets are RESIDENTIAL. This is a major difference. The Master Plan did not show any of the Trax Phase 1 plan until 2011. The Master Plan does not show the Sugar House trolley/streetcar. These properties were purchased and cared for by Sugar House residents with a Master Plan in place. Simonsen's proposal to diminish our property values and increase our property taxes has been marketed on misguided information. Please, see the Sugar House Street Car website for the marketing of the proposal shstreetcar.com. See the artist renderings of lushly landscaped parkways with walking paths and benches. This is not the plan. This is the marketing illustration when in fact the plan is to put two grooves (proven by a Portland study to have caused accidents with 69% of cyclists that have ridden on them) and overhead cable lines. There is NO plan for improvement of any kind. No burying of cables or utilities, no additional concrete, no landscaping. At least one, perhaps two of the four lanes on 2100 S or 1100 E would be grooved and overhead cables added, blocking traffic and limiting right hand turns. This will slow traffic as the street cars are by definition and designed very slow moving at 10‐15 mph making many stops, every two blocks. They are said to be on a 15 minute schedule starting at 6am. The Phase 1 plan was a $50,000,000 project for 11 blocks. The cost of Phase 2 has not been announced in their marketing materials but it will be paid for by the property owners of Sugar House, ENTIRELY. The length of the street car is said to be no more than two parking spaces long but look at actual street Suzie Horn opposed to 2100 south option • Does not want to have it go passed 1300 east • Take children to school every day on 2300 east and 210 south, this will be dangerous for our kids • Unsightly for neighborhood Richard and Margaret Bond This is a big change. We don’t think any final decision should be made until you have a plan for now and the future. A trolley going east makes more sense and could serve many more people. The bicycle use on 1100 East would be effected for the future and not at all safe for them. I personally don’t like the bikes on the road with cars. But can see for the bike riders sake leave the trolley OFF 1100 East. The small business along the street are what makes Sugarhouse area what it is. A very nice area to live in and to visit . Buses are needed and don’t cause that much of a problem . If the Mayor thinks he must make a change. Take the trolley up 2100 South where it can serve more people. It won’t be any more trouble for Westminster students to walk to 2100 South than down to 1100 East. Besides isn’t the apartment building serving the students on 1300 East and 2100 South? Make long range plans. Tiffany Wharton I am no way in favor of 2100 South streetcar route. I am in no interest of the increased traffic that the streetcar route. It will divert traffic from the 2100 South and into the neighbors. I think the bus system in place works fine already. Safety for children is a huge factor in why I am asking you to vote against 2100 south route. Anna K Boller and Thomas Robson Dear Council: The opposition of the proposed 1100th East streetcar is overwhelming. Please reflect your constituents in your votes. As a resident on E. Hollywood Ave, just west of 1100 East, my opposition is based on living AND working in this neighborhood. I have a private practice on 1100 East. As a resident and business, I am opposed for all the reasons listed in the meeting. 1)It will destroy the charm and integrity of our Sugarhouse neighborhood by choking it and artificially dividing it. 2)It will cause traffic to circumvent 11000 East and rush through the surrounding neighborhoods ‐ particularly streets like Hollywood Ave that are completely residential; We have families with children who already are plagued by traffic trying to avoid 2100 South. 3)It does not address the congestion on 2100 South that goes E/W ‐‐‐ the very area an alternative trolley or streetcar would work much better without disrupting residential neighborhoods. 4)We are need of a master plan BEFORE any major traffic pattern changes are implemented 5)More notice and involvement of the majority of residents is needed 6)A more balanced master plan should take into account the complexity of traffic patterns for both visitors, residents and businesses. Integrated sidewalks, bike lanes, parking and private residential areas are critical: THIS IS NOT A NORTH SOUTH TRANSPORTATION ONLY ISSUE! Thank for taking the opinions voiced at the council meeting last month, and since then, into your decision making formula. Steven Wolff y p y g pp p p g trax line route up to Sugarhouse Park, and east to 2300 east. I am a long time resident of Sugarhouse and live off of 2100 east on the proposed east/west route. I am opposed to this route for the following reasons: East of 1700 east is strictly a residential area with neighborhoods consisting of families with children. There are many schools within one mile of 2100 south with thousands of children walking to and from school with friends and younger siblings in tow. The older children from Hillside, Clayton and Highland walk and bike after school. Students not from the immediate neighborhood have used bus transportation for many years without issue or complaint. To that end, we simply do not need more public transportation. The buses that stop along 2100 south above 1700 east are mostly empty – rarely can more that two or three people be counted!! It is completely unclear what transportation necessity is being addressed by the proposal. Rather, it appears that the proposal may be serving business interests that would benefit from this development. Families live here and need to drive because they are not going from point A to point B served by a trax/trolley, but rather they often have numerous places to go with several stops often to other parts of the valley with several people in the car. We are interested in bike lanes and safe walking environment more than people movers. A trolly in this area would cause major traffic congestion. 2100 south from 700 east up to 2300 east is a very busy area especially in the morning until around 9 am as students walk/bike/drive/scooter to school, then picking up again around 2:30 as Highland releases students, and then a steady stream with Dilworth, Hillside and the other schools release students to again flood the area as they head home. I am very concerned about the safety issues associated with having an essentially unstoppable trax/trolley in the immediate vicinity of students as young as 5 years old, not to mention the incredible congestion, confusion and accidents that will accompany the trax/trolley. The four lanes that currently exist are in full use most of the time, and it is extremely difficult to imagine where and how the trax/trolley will fit into the current traffic patterns. When I am heading home and on 2100 s heading east during those times and need to turn north into my driveway there are often over 10 cars stopped behind me while I wait for oncoming traffic to subside so I can turn. It works now because there are four lanes that allow for traffic to move well. To reduce lanes or inhibit traffic from moving would cause horrific traffic jams. In this regard, it seems that you Kathy Mayeta Opposed to the 2100 South streetcar alignment. She is concerned primarily for the safety of her children and feels the streetcar will add one more obstacle to safety. Dan Cimbora oppsoed to 2100 south option • Too many schools • Already congested • No business to be served • Buses can do job more effetely and are under used as it is Gretchen Tettyy Opposed to 2100 south option • What is it going to accomplish? • I would be all for it, but what is the point behind it? • Will make more congestion, opposes a danger for our kids walking to school Mike Bowen opposed to 2100 south option • Against heading east on 2100 south • Have lived her for the reason of loving our neighborhood • This will bring more commercial business • More traffic, we don NOT mass transit through our neighborhood Vicki Rathunde opposed to 1100 east • Business are making a lot on news, heard resident voice • Lived in 21 years, my kids grew up here and my grandkids need to be raised here • I live right on the corner of where the stop is proposed • I do NOT want 160 people getting off on my front door • I am worried about crime, the hours they are being run • Homeless people will be in front of my home • Will diminish the value of my home, that I have built • On disability and I need my house to be valued • Are there going to be people walling up Garfield to Westminster • BIGGEST POINT: if there is a fire and I need an ambulance how will I get the help I need? Mitzy Against the streetcar on 11th. It will hurt the businesses in the area, cause congestion, and negatively impact the residents. Kathy Hoenig I am opposed to moving the trolley any further until a more complete transportation plan is laid out for the East side of SLC. PLEASE do NOT run it down 1100 East!!! Heather Whidden I just signed 2100 Against's petition "Salt Lake City Council: STOP Street Car Rail Spur Up 2100 South" on Change.org. Here's why I signed: We don't need or want a streetcar up 21st So. What a monumental waste of money! I travel this road daily and can't imagine navigating it with existing traffic AND narrowed lanes to accommodate a streetcar. Most importantly, what about the safety of hundreds of students? I DO NOT want my kids crossing rails to and from Dilworth. Please focus on what we actually want in Sugar House: high‐quality teachers and fewer kids per classroom, improved sewage and water lines, repaved roads, etc. Dave Iltis y , p , Mayor's office, etc regarding streetcars and bicycles. With either of the 2 proposed alignments, it is crucial that bicycles be safely accomdated. In conversations with SLC, I have been told that this would be the case, but I have not looked at any engineering diagrams to see where the tracks would be aligned in the street. Curbside alignment can be extremely dangerous for cyclists. 1100 is very narrow from 2100 S, traveling north, so to mix bikes, cars, and the streetcar seems like it would be a difficult task. 1100 E is a popular riding route, so it is crucial to pay close attention to the details here. 2100 S. might be a better option for bicycles because the street is much wider. Regardless, curbside alignment of the tracks can be treacherous for bicycles. This is an issue no matter what happens with the streetcar, and one that I hope SLC and the Council pays close attention to.The on the street construction has to be done right. All of the information below has been shared with SLC Transportation, and with the Street Car people in SLC. Additionally, it's my understanding that Alta Planning is involved with the streetcar. Since they produced the best practices study, that is potentially good news for the in‐street tracks alignment. The following and attached are info on streetcars and bikes. Alignment of the tracks is key to cyclist safety. Sugarhouse streetcar phase II: Attached is Alta Planning's study/guide to best practices for streetcars and bikes. It is very dangerous to place tracks closer to the curb than in the center of the street for bicyclists as crossing tracks while riding parallel to them can cause crashes for bikes. 1100 E. is an important corridor for bicycle transportation, and every effort needs to be made to make the interaction of bikes and streetcars as safe as possible, both in Sugarhouse Phase II and the Downtown Streetcar. Regarding the Downtown Streetcar: The possibility of a downtown street car line (and network) seems to be moving forward. See below regarding the recently awarded grant. This is potentially a great economic development and transportation improvement for SLC, but... At this month's MBAC meeting, the RDA presented a preferred, but very, preliminary, alignment for the proposed streetcar line. It would impact a large section of 200 S, a current bike lane that we have worked many years to complete. Alternatives were 300 S and 100 S. The conflict for cyclists is in part the alignment, but more importantly, it is that the preferred location of the tracks is in the curb lane. This creates many potential problems for cyclists including where to safely ride, and in crossing the tracks. If the tracks are curbside, no matter where Jane Guyer Paine I commute to work daily by bicycle from Holladay (home) to Sugarhouse (work). I support all forms of public transportation and specifically the street car project on 2100 South. David Carlson y y ,y y y these, but on the other hand, at least you are finally getting an engaged electorate! That's always a good result. I am writing to urge you to vote against the streetcar extension up 11th East. I believe running the line east along 21st south is a much more viable option. I'm going to quote from another neighbor's reasoning, as my own thoughts are quite acidic and there's probably been enough venom and acid spilt on this issue and I would not want that to take away from the discussion: I'm all for smart transit and anything we can do to eliminate pollution in our community. Unfortunately, I'm against the 11th East proposal for the following reasons: Too much traffic already cuts through our neighborhood, going at high velocities. The trolley will push more of that "cross traffic" into our neighborhood streets endangering our children and other pedestrians. The only way to help with this is to add numerous and expensive traffic calming measures ‐ but the city doesn't have the budget to do so. More traffic will end up on 9th East, which means more idling and more congestion and more pollution. 1700 South is not a destination The use case for travelers going from Sugar House center to 17th or 9th South along 11th east is a rarity. These riders don't exist. Check the busses each day to see. There is no ridership in either direction. Can 13th East and other north‐south routes not made for commuting (like 10th East) handle more cars? If I were using 9th or 13th East now, I'd be very leery about the added traffic that will be coming. Small businesses and construction: I fear for the small businesses along the 1100 east route that will be affected. Can they survive? The neighborhood simply can’t survive as it currently exists when shuttered businesses inevitably lead to unwatched and unmaintained properties ripe for vandalism, transients, and deterioration. North‐south transit is plentiful, but East‐West is lacking. Shouldn't we be smarter about filling needed transit gaps? Federal money is purported to be the key to making this happen financially. But a special improvement district will need to be established. And that means more taxes for the businesses and residents near the route. I'm all for paying my fair share, but I'm not for paying taxes for something that I believe is detrimental to my neighborhood and to the community at large. I agree with mass transit. I have used it and I am all for expansion that makes it more useful and more convenient for the user. However, I don't believe 1100 East will accomplish either of those aims. It is a streetcar to nowhere. What concerns me is the absolute tone deafness of the city council about this issue and the "we Joyce Marder The proposed routes for the streetcar will do us no good unless it also serves the 15th and 15th area, the price is distance‐based and the service hours are the same as TRAX. Camille I am NOT in favor of dividing sugar house in either direction with the Trolley 'expansion' plan. Expansion? Why!? The traffic is reasonable. The neighborhoods are vibrant. And Highland High has, and will be, in the middle of this active community for years to come. . . unless the trolley separates the neighborhoods, and 2100 so. is re‐zoned as commercial, and homes are destroyed. Transportation rarely has an impressive ROI. But, what the residence and community have built in Sugar House IS impressive. I recently did attend the public hearing on this matter. Without beating my chest like the proud boxing business owner did, "WE are Sugar House." Are we being heard? I am very concerned and am not in favor. Please do not divide us. Jenny Linford y , j y concerned about having a streetcar in Sugarhouse on 1100 East , but we are even more concerned about a line running up 21st South. We have entrusted you with our tax dollars. This is not how we want them spent. The confusion and controversy surrounding this trolley line should be a HUGE RED FLAG that perhaps not enough care and consideration has gone into this project. Not enough has been done to directly contact the neighbors whom it will affect. I didn't even know about the proposed plans until just a few weeks prior to your last council meeting. It seems hasty and disorganized. Do not waste out hard earned money that we entrust to you in taxes on something that will not improve our lives. For the following reasons we are OPPOSED to a streetcar line on 2100 South. 1. 1. 2100 South is the main road out of our neighborhood. It is our main thoroughfare to I‐80 and I‐215, really to anywhere in the city. Generally, it runs pretty smoothly with the 2 lanes of traffic in both directions. However during peak hours, like morning and afternoon commute, it is congested enough that it can be difficult to cross without a trolley line! 2. 2. I commute each morning to Bountiful via I‐80. Many mornings it takes me 2 to 3 lights to get through the double turn lane from 2100 S. to 1300 E. Before you decide to run a trolley line up 2100 S., sit and watch the traffic in the morning, at lunch, and in the afternoon. That would create a complete mess at an already busy intersection! Not just a mess, it would be a complete nightmare! 3. 3. There is no need for a trolley on 2100 S. It is not a destination stop. It is the main thoroughfare to quiet neighborhoods. We don’t need the noise and congestion that it will create on our streets. 4. 4. It is naÃˉve to think that people on the east side will give up their cars to ride a trolley line to connect to a trax line to get downtown. Our east side neighborhood is well serviced by bus lines to the University of Utah and downtown, not to mention one of the main bus lines runs down 2100 South. We don’t need a streetcar! 5. 5. In an effort to make our areas more biker/green friendly, aesthetically pleasing, commuter friendly, etc. the city tried to ‘improve’ Guardsman Way a few years ago. They took a street with steady traffic, like 2100 S., that had 2 lanes in each direction, also like 2100 S, and took out two of the lanes in favor of large median and bike lanes. Well, it didn’t help anything! It made my 10 minute drive to the University of Utah a 20 minute drive because I was backed up in a single lane of traffic. It did exactly the opposite of making it ‘be er.’ Now there are the same amount Mitzi Schroeder Dear Sirs and Madams, My name is Mitzi Schroeder and I do no want the streetcar on 11th. I think if this streetcar is approve our local business and not to mention the residents will be the ones who suffer. There will be no parking, the construction will make the street a disaster area. The traffic is bad enough down this street because it is so narrow. How about taking the money and improving our parks or trax or something that will give back to the community and not the college students from West Minister. College students are temporary residents that come and go. They will NOT be here after they graduate. The residents of Sugarhouse will. Thank you for your time, Jeanne Jardine To whom it may concern: I am opposed to the light rail being built on 21st South. I do not want more commercial development along 21st South. There is already so much traffic on 21st East from the University of Utah. Light rail would not improve that situation, but would cause further delays. I hope you all have listened to the residents of Sugarhouse. I feel that almost everyone I talk to is opposed to this expansion of Light Rail. Thank you for all you do for our city. Tim Bardsley Dear City Council, As a resident of Sugarhouse neighborhood and a year round bicycle commuter, I would like to express my thoughts on the proposed Sugarhouse street car. First I believe it is very important to strongly consider bicycle safety in the engineering and alignment. Salt Lake City has taken considerable strides in becoming a bicycle friendly city and increased ridership is an important factor in improving our air quality, reducing congestion, and improving public health. This project has the potential to advance all of these goals, but without careful consideration, bicycle safety could fall victim to unintended consequences. Curbside alignment would pose a particularly hazardous citation for cyclists. I believe the 21st south alignment is a superior choice for both cycling safety and practical concerns. Not only can the 21st south right of way can more easily accommodate the street car in combination with auto and bike traffic, but it will also provide a more viable transportation corridor linking to Sugarhouse Park, Highland High, and beyond. Thank you for your consideration, Tim Bardsley Salt Lake City, UT Stacey Lloyd I just wanted to comment about the proposed trolley line up 2100S in Sugarhouse. I am opposed to the train continuing any further than originally planned. I do not want it going above 1300 E. I read the flyer that was sent and I'm not convinced that it would be a good use of tax payer and federal money. I do ride the bus to work. I catch it right at Highland High School and during the time students are exiting the same bus for school. I only see 10‐12 students that are using the bus to get to school. So having a trax line just for students doesn't make sense. Also, it will now pose a danger for the hundreds of students that walk to school and now will need to be aware of the Trax track (we all know that our teenagers are "plugged in"). It is not cost effective either for those professionals or university students that are now currently using buses to have a trax line. Buses run every 15 minutes and are very convienent and trax will not improve this, only cost more money. Plus I don't see an increase in riders. In this area, not many individuals are using public transportation since, as I talk to others, because it takes them longer and more inconvenient since we are so close to downtown and the University of Utah. I just wanted to give my views as this comes to a vote this evening. Thank you for your consideration, Stacey Lloyd Gretta Millett My main concern with the 2100 South Streetcar route is the safety for the children commuting to school. I dont believe the streetcar will be an asset to the commercial retail in our area. Most of 2100 South is residential which would cause traffic to spill into neighborhoods. Kathryn Ball Van Wagoner Please let us know if the residents who are opposed to this must stand with signs on 2100 south like the 1100 east residents did last week? We have made our voices heard (we thought) through emails and petitions. We are happy to trot out all of the hundreds of children who live in our neighborhood. Unlike the 1100 east neighborhood, the neighborhoods from 1700 east to 2300 east are primarily families with young children. I have been a resident of the neighborhood for 27 years and I have never seen so many young families as I am seeing presently. We will call the media on this as did the 1100 east retailers and residents…if that is what it will take. The Blue Plate Diner is the only business I know in favor of this proposal. Please let us know. We are all up to the fight. Charlotte Wolff I am a property owner with two rentals in the 900e and 900s area and rent to young professionals that often don't have cars and like taking public transportation because its easier and more efficient for them to do so. Connecting these two urban areas while maintaining the neighborhoods should be the goal of the sugarhouse trolley Gretta B. Millett I would like to voice my view against a railway on 2100 South. I have many reasons for this view, but primarily, I am very concerned with the fact that all school age children in our area, from grade school to high school are in close proximity to the rail line, and many would have to cross it daily. I do not believe that the businesses in the area would benefit, but safety is my main concern. Thank you so much for your representation, and I trust that you will represent this topic in a way that reflects the thoughts and wishes of this neighborhood. Al Dieffenback Dear Mayor and City Council Members, My name is Al Dieffenbach and I am a stake holder, landlord and business owner in the Sugar House neighborhood. My properties go from 1061 east 2100 south north to Hollywood Avenue and East to 1100 East. On the property is four businesses. All four businesses are owned locally and all are opposed to the 1100 east alignment of the streetcar. I have made an effort to contact the mayor via telephone to no avail so I will email this to him again. As a small business owner it is difficult to do business in a construction zone. This past January, February and March the alley between my restaurants and the Wells Fargo Bank was torn out to encase a leaking irrigation canal in pipe. The two week project lasted six plus weeks and isn't completed as of this date. During those six weeks my sales were down $22000.00 per week for a total of $132000.00. Construction impacts business! 1100 east is not the best route for the streetcar. The residents don't want it The business owners don't want it. The property owners or stake holders don't want it. The Salt Lake Tribune today stated that it was not the best route. Let us look into the future.... Along 2100 south are numerous high density apartments and condos presently. Along 1100 east are some four‐plexes but by far it is lined with single family homes. Does anyone remember why 1100 east is blocked northbound at 800 south because of the steepness of the hill cars couldn't stop in the winter to crossing traffic. A streetcar* would cause accidents at that intersection. I feel that the best route would be from Mcllelland eastward to the monument (perhaps up Sugarmont) past the park and for now to Highland high School, but in the future connect to Foothill Drive (nice and wide unlike 1100 east!) and then North to the University. This would connect the streetcar* with all major bus routes that are already in place going in the north/south directions. Please feel free to call me for more input. Thank you for your time, Al Dieffenbach 801‐463‐9393 Scott Olsen Here's why I signed: 2100 South is already too crowded as it is! The nice part about the streetcar so far is that it used an existing right of way. Expanding it on to the already crowded streets doesn't make sense in terms of cost or benefit. Please do not extend it at all at this time. Jeff Picket Jeff Picket [email protected] I strongly oppose having a trolley line or a trax line run up 2100 S. Primarily my concern is gonna be kids, both little kids living in the houses along 2100 s and high school kids who attend highland. I’m not aware of any of these trax or trolley lines that run through residential neighborhoods and that is effectively what this would be. The traffic is already highly congestion, I doubt people wont use the line. It is my understanding that it is few bus lines because they are not in use, and if people are already not using public transportation what makes us think they will start using the trolley line. Janet Stewart My main concern with the 2100 South Streetcar route is the safety for the children commuting to school. I dont believe the streetcar will be an asset to the commercial retail in our area. Most of 2100 South is residential which would cause traffic to spill into neighborhoods. Michael Garff I voted for him and I live next to 2100 South and I don’t want the streetcar to come into the neighborhood. Ahsley Larson They just notified me about the whole situation. I live on 2100 E, for our kids sake. I don’t know why this would be worse. So I don’t know if that is helpful or not. Here is what I would prefer, I just want a minute to look because I got all these texts and messages. It wouldn’t be good for my neighborhood No name I'm very against the trolley going up 2100 s. Maryann Silver Adamantly opposed to the streetcar coming up 2100 s. WE don't want more commercial development. We have many children who would have to cross the railways. All you need is a good bus system. Please vote no for this streetcar up 2100 s. Jim Boys Concerned about the rail line extending up from Sugar House. I am concerned for my kids, they walk to school, they have to cross 2100 s. Its busy enough as it is. Adding a rail line is not a good idea. Emily Bruder Opposed to the potential commercial railway that would go on 2100 s. Children cross that street and will be crossing to go to Dilworth. It wouldn't be safe. Suzanne Stensaas Please extend it up 2100 south to Parleys and Walmart. This makes sense as it is wider and the east bench is desperate for transportation. Then hopefully we will get transportation along Foothill. I have been working on the East Bench Planning group dealing with Foothill. This will also support Sugarhouse businesses as well as the 21 and 21 districts. Sent from my iPhone Suzanne Stensaas No name My grandchildren cross to go to school at 21st and 21st and I fear for their safety, please address this issue Katherine Roos Dear Council Members, I have lived at 2019 East 2100 South now for 26 years and would like to stay. I have seen the speed limit decrease from 40MPH to 30MPH due to children and residential living. I have seen some extreme car accidents, I have seen children and pets get hit. We have personally experienced people losing control of their car and coming up on to our lawn and just miss hitting our house. We have a daily battle to get in and out of our driveway, we have lost all parking on the street and most recently (still getting through) an 18†city sewage backup in our basement. I am sure about now you are asking “Why don’t you move then?â€. We have not moved because of this fantastic neighborhood we love it. We have weathered all the storms knowing that this was a great place to raise our children and feel part of a great city. Now we are looking at having a street car come up 2100 south… I understand there has been a study done to look at the options and impact. Who did this research, who did they talk to, what was the criteria. I would love you to come to my house at three or so different times a day to observe how many children walk 2100 south to and from school, what it is like to cross 2100 south and most selfishly how hard it is to get in and out of my driveway. Do to the fact that I had a daughter get married on April 27th and the sewage clean up I have not been able to attend the informational meetings. I feel like I am a small voice against so many protesters from 1100 East. If I can assure you one important message is that we as residents are impacted, but this street car 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. We are not a business so I cannot go out a solicit my clients to come to a meeting to protest. I know that this is a last ditch effort, but I won’t feel good until I know that I have done all I can to have you please reconsider your vote tonight. Do you have to vote one way or another tonight? Can we please take time to look at all of the angles of this street car. Do we need a street car going up 2100 South or even a 1100 East? What is the long term effect of our residents and businesses? What is the long term plan for the street car? We have just cut out most of our bus routes in our neighborhood, will this effect that? Please feel free to contact me if you would like to discuss this further. I appreciate your time. Robyn Rich Dear SLC Council Members, I strongly disagree with moving forward on any plan at this time until further investigation has been conducted. The consulting firm appears to have been given a mission to conclude that 1100 East is the best route for the Streetcar; evidenced by online comments and the turnout of opponents at the April 23rd meeting. I, like many of my neighbors, have not had sufficient notice nor information about this project. I am currently highly opposed to the Streetcar on 1100 East; living on Hollywood Ave btw 10th and 11 East. I am also incredibly insulted by proponents for the Streetcar on 11th citing scare tactics and misinformation as the basis for my position on the issue. Though I have graduate level education, it is not necessary to understand that a streetcar on a narrow, two‐lane street will further congest an already congested location. Let us all try to keep our communications on a professional level, please. My family is flying out of town this evening, thus unable to attend the meeting. Please do not act against the wishes of your tax payers. We clearly require more information and input before there can be a final decision on this issue. Tim Bardsley As a resident of Sugarhouse neighborhood and a year round bicycle commuter, I would like to express my thoughts on the proposed Sugarhouse street car. First I believe it is very important to strongly consider bicycle safety in the engineering and alignment. Salt Lake City has taken considerable strides in becoming a bicycle friendly city and increased ridership is an important factor in improving our air quality, reducing congestion, and improving public health. This project has the potential to advance all of these goals, but without careful consideration, bicycle safety could fall victim to unintended consequences. Curbside alignment would pose a particularly hazardous citation for cyclists. I believe the 21st south alignment is a superior choice for both cycling safety and practical concerns. Not only can the 21st south right of way can more easily accommodate the street car in combination with auto and bike traffic, but it will also provide a more viable transportation corridor linking to Sugarhouse Park, Highland High, and beyond. Thank you for your consideration, Ruth Todd Opposed to 2100 south option • Change the face and feel of the neighborhood and all who live in it • This is a concern for all families particularly those with children Havilah Martak I would like to echo the sentiments of other cyclists and bike enthusiasts in saying that I would like to see cycling considered when dealing with streetcar alignment and route. We need to focus on creating safe and connected bike routes in our community. That area of the city is already extremely dangerous to travel through by bike. Please do everything you can to consider and account for cyclists in the design, route, and implementation of this project. Diane Creamer Opposed to the trax line coming up 2100 s. Its a huge mistake and will cost terrible tragedies with all the school kids crossing the street to get to Highland high, Dilworth, Beacon heights. Samantha Shults opposed 2100 south option • I have a business on 21st and 21st Custom Travel • Children’s safety • When you have easy transit you introduce more crime into the area • Following entries on the TRAX line with stolen luggage from the airport • Negative impact on neighborhood No name Do not vote to have the streetcar come up 2100 s. Too much residential up along the street. Bruce Bradley opposed to 2100 south option • There is a place for mass transit where a common good can be served however extend the car east ward just because federal funds is available is stupid. • This proposal only benefits the developers as a charming perk. • People in residential neighborhoods around the park and schools are appalled at our elected official and planners would even consider this ridiculous waste of money and time and resources • Bus service along 2100 south is great we on not want or need a streetcar. Elizabeth Cook Lucy Hawes opposed to 2100 south option • Meant to be used to the University use it for and not bring it up near our children • Dos not make sense! oppose to 2100 south option Jill Anderson I do not want the trolley coming up 2100 s or extend beyond Sugar House. WE have families and visitors who drive around already. Charise Tire I oppose the streetcar on 21st s. I have kids that cross that street every single day and it would be just too dangerous. Michelle Park I am against the trolley 2100 S. In the winter it takes you 20 minutes to tunr onto 2000 east the trolley would impact it further David E leta This comment is about the proposed “north†or “east†extensions of the Sugar House Streetcar route. I favor whichever route will support the highest anticipated (projected) number of users, meaning the route that will connect and carry the most prospective traffic. I think the north route is more likely to fulfill this criteria than the east route, especially if it can eventually be extended to the intersection of 9th South and 1100 East. Doing so would connect the growing 9th & 9th district to Sugar House, and also connect East High School to Sugar House. It also will allow for more commercial “intersection†growth at the 17th and 13th street intersec ons with 1100 East. Such development is more likely than at 1700 East, which is near Highland HS. In spite of the protests from local business owners on 1100 East, which is basically about the disruption of their businesses during construction (which the City can mitigate in tax rebates, special subsidies, etc.), in the long run these businesses will see an increase in revenues from the increased passenger count that a streetcar will bring to their storefronts. A plan like this needs to be visionary, not short‐sighted – and community leaders need to act accordingly, rather than bend to immediate pressure from any special interest group. I was on the committee (years ago) that determined the Main Street alignment of the Trax line. At the time, there was a considerable amount of opposition from Main Street business owners who wanted the Trax line on State Street. Now, looking back, they are glad the line is on Main Street, and not on State Street. The same thinking needs to be employed with the Sugar House line. Moreover, I think there are more logistical concerns with running the line to 1700 East, especially navigating the very congested 1300 East and 2100 South intersection. That said, I have not reviewed the demographic and use studies, which is the reason for my initial comment. One additional comment. The ultimate design of the rail line, whichever direction it goes, needs to be mindful of, and accommodate, bicycle traffic. Jamming a wheel in a rail line, and falling off a bike, is no fun. I presume this has been considered and a suitable design is in mind. The City also wants to encourage bike traffic, as well as streetcar traffic. Best of luck with this difficult decision. Megan Stewart opposed to 2100 south option • Do not see any benefits for neighborhood • Under 30 that is living in the neighborhood will not use it • I don not see the use of it in our neighbhood Mark Sorensen I am strongly opposed the streetcar going up 2100 s. I have children that go to Dilworth and I'm upset that you're making more hazards in their walk way. I think its a waste of money, we don't need trax going in our area. It will ruin our area. You're not giving the residents of the area to get a chance to realize what we're dealing with. I will never vote for anyone of the Council Members again. We are not being given time to react. 2100 s has no room for a railway. Marylee Opposed to the streetcar on 21st South Cameron Jones I am against the train car coming up 21st s. No name I live in Sugar House here and I am against the streetcar. There are many kids that cross that street for school, I think that the community lives here so that they don't have a trolley car here. Its a safety concern for the children. Alicia Stewart I strongly oppose to the 2100 south streetcar route. Jessica Price I am very opposed to trax coming up 2100 s. I feel like ppl here have cars and those who work here have cars. Its a huge huge mistake, our kids already have enough dangers. ITs going to hurt this area and the kids who are going to be the future leaders. This is not a good move at all. I hope you will consider that my voice stands for many neighbors. Susie Palmer Calling on behalf of the proposal to develop 21st s, I wanted to make my vote known that I am opposed to this development. I think it is a bad idea, and I'm more concerned about the safety of our kids, or something of that nature coming up in the streets. No name I just wanted to express my concern that citizens of the community do not want it. WE have to many schools around and transients can come by. Becky Richards I am against it, I am concerned already about the traffic and the children. I'm thinking there is a better way to accommodate to people coming up. Kathleen Rice Thank you for that information. Now I am more interested in the 1100 East Alternative, merely because this is a Trolley, after all. In the near future, however, I would like to see some improved transit serving the Eastern part of 2100 South. From the Report, it appears that bus and foot traffic there are still not convenient or, even, safe. Improvements will have to be comprehensive, and the Trolley will not solve the issues. Peter Torres I'm surprised how quickly this has seemed to be unfolding. A couple weeks ago was the first I ever heard of it and now a vote may be taken as early as this afternoon to decide whether or not it'll happen. It seems hastily put together. Mike Weirden I'm opposed to the extension of the 1100 e streetcar line. I'm also opposed to any other extension along 2100 s. I'm a UTA bus rider and i'm very happy with the bus service. Its seldom filled along the 2100 bus route. No name This is our neighborhood and not a business district. There are so many other things besides businesses that are overlooked. I'm opposed to the 2100 s street car. Armid Cornell I would like to see a streetcar going in the Sugar House neighborhood, its going to reduce traffic from state street to 1100 e. Sue thomas I am opposed to the Trax line coming up 2100 s. I'm opposed to it for the safety of the children and I don't think we need it in this area. We have bus service that is adequate. Lynn Harrison I attended the last council meeting that was held at the sprague library, at that meeting they said there'd be two trax lines, one going e on 2100 s and then turning around coming back on a different line. So that would mean there are 2 tracks. I have seen another picture that features only one lane. would like to know which is correct. JB TAylor I think 2100 South is a horrible idea. It totally disregards the safety of the kids that cross 21st south No on in our immediate community has been asking for this. People choose to be in our neighborhood because of the convenience. the idea of wainting for trolley cars won't be used by people. Phyllis W. Hansen I am extremely opposed to the streetcar going up 2100 S. to Highland High School and eventually Foothill. My understanding is that this event would endanger the homes along the route by changing the zoning laws to allow an influx of commercial properties that would eventually potentially take over the homes along the route. I am vehemently opposed to this from happening. There is such a wonderful, peaceful atmosphere in our neighborhood and I wish to protect it as much as I possibly can. Please do not allow this in our neighborhood. I also feel that undesirable and unintended consequences would occur from having a streetcar in our neighborhood. The noise pollution alone is a huge negative effect and I don’t think this route is one that would be used to make the expense of it worthwhile. Bussing is a much more flexible and economical solution, plus it can be modified according to changing needs. Thank you for your consideration. Archie Phillips Council Members, Regardless of where the streetcar goes, it is important to keep Westminster College in mind. That being accepted, a northbound line would need to go on 1100 E. or 1400 E. 1100 E. already has a greater number of commercial properties so it would be logical to use it for the northbound route. A good northbound connector for looping to the U might be 1900 E.