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CAN-O-GRAM
Volume 40 Issue 4
Page 2
President’s Message
November 2013
Official publication of the
National Pop Can Collectors
Page 3
International Can
Page 9
Collector’s Corner
Page 12
Auction Watch
Page 15
Undocumented Finds
Page 19
Happenings
Page 20
Classifieds
Some interesting cans you will find
in the Can-O-Gram this issue.
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President’s Message
by Jim Wicker
“CAN-O-GRAM” is published four
times a year and is the official newsletter of the “NATIONAL POP CAN
COLLECTORS.”
Membership in the “NPCC” is available at the annual rate of $15 for
U.S. residents and $20 (U.S. funds)
for non U.S. residents receiving the
Can-O-Gram via printed version.
For members receiving the publication electronically membership is
free.
For membership and address
changes inquire at NPCC/Brent
Alexander/1082 S. 46th St./West
DesMoines, IA 50265
Submission deadlines for ads, articles, new can photos, etc. are as
follows:
February 2013—Feb. 11
May 2013-May 5
August 2013-Aug. 11
November 2013-Nov. 10
If mailed issues are sent First Class
PPD out of the Indianapolis, IN post
office.
Mailing address:
NPCC/Gene Judd
4825 W. 79th Street
Indpls., IN 46268
Internet Web Site:
Www.canogram.com
Email:
[email protected]
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hanks to everyone that attended the 2013 ExtravaCan-Za and special thanks to our
host, Gene Judd. Gene, his wife,
and I'm sure a number of recruited souls, worked long nights
to make this another show to remember. Beside the show itself,
Gene didn't let anyone down displaying some of the most amazing cans I've ever seen in one
place.
The NPCC's annual meeting was not held at this show as I was hoping it
would be. I was the only officer to attend and wasn't able to stay late enough to
organize the meeting. We do need to hold a meeting and I may try to hold a
members "Go to Meeting" or a dial in conference call soon. If this gets set up,
we will email the roster list a special invite.
As I mentioned previously, Brent is looking to pass on the torch of being Secretary/Treasurer and would like to do it soon! If he resigns, this position will
have a void until a member steps forward.
Some may have seen that many beer and soda cans have been going for much
higher than average on eBay. Most likely the winning bid will be from the
agents of a billionaire Sheikh art collector and now can collector. The agents
seem to really like Pepsi Cone tops. I'm sure George's auction watch will have
some examples. I've heard he is paying for his auctions. I wonder how much
his agents get paid to over spend to build his hobby?
All rights reserved. No portion of this
publication may be reproduced in any
way without the written permission
from the publisher.
2013 NPCC Officers
President: Jim Wicker –
[email protected]
Vice President: Dave Tanner—
[email protected]
Secy/Treas: Brent [email protected]
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International Cans
by Michael Van Laere
Argentina
Austria
Argentina
Austria Zero
Argentina
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International Cans, cont’d.
Belgium
Belgium
Chile
Chile
France
England
Chile
Germany
Hong Kong
Hong Kong
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International Cans, cont’d.
India
Israel
Italy
Japan
Japan
Macedonia
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Japan
Macedonia
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International Cans, cont’d.
Macedonia
New Caledonia
South Korea
New Zealand
Palestine
Puerto Rico
South Africa
South Korea
Poland
South Africa
South Africa
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International Cans, cont’d.
Sweden
UAE Oman
Taiwan
Taiwan
Ukraine
USA
USA
USA
USA
USA
USA
USA
USA
USA
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International Cans, cont’d.
USA
USA
USA
Zimbabwe
Submitted by Jim Wicker
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Collector’s Corner
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by George Reichl
his month’s featured Collector is Richard Sangster: Thanks Richard for sharing your collection with us!
Richard, when did you begin collecting soda cans and what was it that first appealed to you?
I started collecting in 1983. It was at the house of my uncle (brother from mother), when I noticed all kinds of
soda cans in one of his closets and I thought all the different colors looked very nice. So I asked for them and
he gave them to me. This was the start of my soda collection.
What was your first soda can?
Among the cans I received from my uncle were some Hero cans, which is a
local soft drink producer from the Netherlands and the Coca-Cola language
set.
How did you find the NPCC and do you remember what year you joined?
I saw an advertisement on the Rusty Bunch forum and I joined in December
2011.
What types of soda cans will we find in your collection?
In my collection there are all kinds of soda cans. I have some pre-zip flat
tops, but also the most recent Coca Cola can from the Netherlands. What I
do not collect are cone-tops, alu bottles, bank cans and cans larger than 24
oz.
What is most important to you when you decide whether to buy or trade for a can?
I have many, many soda cans for trade, so when I make a trade, I am usually easy.
I sometimes even trade my cans for cans I already have in my collection. I do this especially with new collectors, that have very few cans to offer. I will then have foreign cans I can trade on a local tradeshow, with collectors that do not have internet. And my trade partner has some soda cans from Europe. I also have many (mostly
Coca-Cola) sets for trade. These I prefer to trade for other Coca-Cola sets.
Buying is another thing. First of all the price (including shipping) needs to be not too expensive for the can(s).
And it has to be a nice addition to my collection. I sometimes also buy whole collections, but only if there are
cans I need for my collection. I usually do not buy cans I already have in my collection, unless the price is very
low. Like a multiple diamond can I bought some time ago for about $1.
Where have you generally found your cans?
In my first years of collecting my collection was made of cans I found myself and cans I received from my uncle. My father also travelled a lot and would bring back cans he found or drank. Then in 1997 I visited a general
collecting fair and there were 2 collectors that were selling their collection. I doubled my collection at that time
from about a 1,000 cans to 2,000 different cans. What I did find strange at the time, that many cans had 2 holes
in the bottom, so I left many of these behind. Later that year I visited a local Coca-Cola fair, that I had I found out
about through the internet, where I bought many trays and boxes with cans. In October of that year I visited a
convention from “blik op blik”, our national can collectors club and joined the same year. I visited many conventions and some years later I had my own trade table. In 1999 I was somewhat familiar with the internet and
made my first trades with a collector from Italy and a collector from Canada. In 2006 I also started buying cans
on e-Bay. At this moment I still visit conventions regularly and I also regularly visit supermarkets for new cans
that come out. Unfortunately the climate here is too wet to go dumping for older cans, but I do find recent cans
on parking places along the highway. So to answer your question: I have used almost any way to acquire my
cans, short of stealing them.
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Collector’s Corner, cont’d.
As an overseas collector, are there any challenges trading with collectors from other countries?
In the beginning I did a lot of trades with the USA. There were some collectors that collected soda cans, others I
traded with collected only Pepsi or Coca-Cola cans. Over the years many of these collectors stopped collecting
or do no longer trade internationally. So now most of my recent trades are with other countries from Europe or
South American countries. I would like to trade more with the USA, but there are so many cans that many collectors are specializing in a specific area and most of the time this area involves USA cans only. And even if I
have a can that the collector might need, the shipping cost for sending only 1 can overseas is expensive.
How are your cans displayed?
My collection consists of more than 37,000 different cans. Unfortunately, I do not have the place to display them
all. So I have a small room to display about 1,000 of my nicest cans and the rest is in storage. I also have some
shelves in my spare bedroom. Here I display my flat tops.
What was your best find?
A few years ago I noticed a seller selling several lots of Pepsi cans on
eBay. Each lot consisted of about 50 Pepsi and other Pepsico cans
and started at $0.01 (one cent). After examining the pictures closely, I
noticed some gems in some lots. I noticed several Star Wars sets from
all over the world and some “Denver Nuggets” cans. But the real
gems were 2 golden Yoda cans, the “Anakin Destiny” can and the
“Anakin Pod Race” can (the golden Yoda can from Singapore). I
ended up buying 8 lots, varying from $0.01 to about $6.
Was there ever a can that got away?
Yes, recently I noticed 2 Coca-Cola multiple diamond cans on eBay
with a starting price of only $1.99. One of these was an aluminum
Coca-Cola can and the other can was a 10 oz. steel can. This last can was not mentioned in the “collectable
soda cans” book and I could not find any information about it on the Internet. That was, until I had taken a
closer look and found out that the can came from Puerto Rico. After having this piece of information, I soon
found out that until that moment there was only 1 can known of this can. As the title and the description were
not so clear, I had hoped this can would stay under the radar of collectors. Unfortunately it did not. It was sold
for over $250. More than I would spend on a single can.
What is your favorite can in the collection?
I have asked myself that question a few times. If I was only allowed to have 1 can or 1 set, what would I keep?
I never came up with an answer. I really like the golden Yoda cans, but also the Star Wars set from Red Bull issued in Thailand, the Star Wars set from Pepsi from Japan, the vintage Donald Duck cans (I have 6 at the moment) and many of my Coca-Cola sets. However I do prefer cans with nice pictures or drawings over plain design cans, even if these cans are more rare.
What cans are you looking for?
That’s easy, I am looking for any can, not in my collection, that fits my collection criteria.
I am especially looking for cans from countries that started canning recently. Like some African countries and
former Soviet republics. And older cans (pre 2000) from Asia, Africa and Latin America.
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Collector’s Corner, cont’d.
I understand you have a unique website. Can you tell us about it.
My friend and I run a can-collecting site called the CanMuseum. In essence it is the world’s largest online can
reference guide in the world, with over 51,000 different cans. Here I keep track of the cans in my collection and
trade list. It is kind of like Wikipedia: other collectors can add their pictures of cans that are not yet in the
CanMuseum, making the CanMuseum more complete. This way collectors know which cans are around in the
world and can also keep track of their collection and trade list without actually having to take a picture of each
can.
I know a lot of collectors hesitate, thinking it will take a lot of time, but they forget that if 100 collectors each add
10 cans each week, we will have 1,000 new cans each week. This takes only a half hour of their time, especially
if they already have individual pictures of their cans. The CanMuseum is still in development as we want to add
more features in the future. At the moment we are working on adding the variation feature. We understand that
if a collector collects only cans from 1 specific brand, he might want to collect all variations. However, other collectors only look at the big picture and are not interested whether the can is made in Seattle or Los Angeles.
The only downside is that especially collectors of older cans (pre 1970), cannot add their actual can from their
collection to see if a can they see, is an upgrade for the can in their collection. Once a can is added to the
CanMuseum, that picture is used until another collector edits the can and uploads a better picture. But this is
the same with all can reference books. The CanMuseum can be found at www.canmuseum.com.
Do you collect anything beside soda cans?
I collect all kinds of beverage cans, so I also collect beer cans, energy cans, fruit juice and other alcoholic
beverages.
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Auction Watch
by George Reichl
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his newsletter's Auction Watch will feature an unusual amount of international auctions (as well as Coca Cola cans)
as Richard Sangster (featured in this months Collector's Corner) sent me a number of auctions to feature. Thanks
Richard!
Lets start with this auction of a Puerto Rico can Richard mentioned.
It received a whopping 36 bids and sold for $260.
This auction was for a very clean 1959 Canadian 10 oz Coca Cola flat top from a Canadian
seller. It had 255 views, 31 bids, and a final
sale price of $195.
Next up is this very nice 1956 Coke diamond can
from a seller in Switzerland. It was produced
just after the "export" can and has the
"REG.US.PAT.OFF" lettering under the Coca Cola
logo.
It received 30 bids and sold for $140.
This next auction from Richard is for a set of 10
Coca Cola Mexican Olympic cans from the 1992
Olympics.
They received 19 bids
and sold for $122.
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Auction Watch, cont’d.
.
This auction is actually NOT a Coca
Cola can..... it is a
nice Donald Duck
grape flat top from
the mid 50s which
was being sold by a
Swedish seller.
This can received 8
bids and sold for
$108
I always like to look for
auctions that have a
group of off grade cans
looking for something
unusually interesting. Although there is
not a particular "killer"
can in here, this group
does have some interesting Canadian flat
tops.
This group received 24
bids and sold for $93.
What ties two people together but touches
only one? Take a look at this auction. It is
a Coca Cola can with a joke inside. Also
from a Swiss seller.
It received 2 bids and sold for $20.
This was an auction I
would have really liked to
bid on. These zip code
Can-D-Stick cans are
very rare and this grape
flavor had not previously
been identified. Unfortunately, the seller ended
the auction early.
Here is a can I did add to
the collection. I am not sure
how rare this Bongo Grape
soda can from Puerto Rico
is, but I couldn't pass up the
graphics. It received 7 bids
and sold for $48.
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Auction Watch, cont’d.
Its been awhile
since I remember
seeing one of
these zip code
Tropic Surf cans
from Pepsi. This
one is rolled.
It received 19 bids
and sold for $206.
The 10-2-4 white
Dr. Pepper cones
are very difficult to
come by.
This 12 ounce can
had 272 views,
received 24 bids,
and sold for
$1450.
Another very tough cone to find is the first
generation bottle cap Pepsi cone.
Even this rough one received 9 bids and sold for $954.
I was more than a little surprised by the final
price on this auction. The 1970s Big Chief (zip
code) cans are usually very popular and the
black cherry sodas are a tougher flavor, but this
one received 20 bids and sold for $410!
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Undocumented Finds
by Brent Alexander
Undocumented Recent Finds-Volume 25
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he focus of this column is on newly discovered obsolete cans that haven’t been pictured in Dave Tanner’s Collectible
Soda Can Book. Please email pictures and details of any cans meeting these criteria to me at [email protected]. Submissions by members are greatly appreciated!
Included are my estimates of the rareness of these cans, based on Dave Tanner’s “R” system, unless the can is assumed
common. I normally include the name of the person (or source) providing the picture in parenthesis. Pictures without
attribution are new additions from my collection.
Since the last issue, a fair number of interesting “new” cans have surfaced.
Soft Drink Cans:
“Soft Drink” is defined as non-soda cans, containing the words “drink”, “punch”, or the like, but not “juice.”
Metrecal
Dutch
Chocolate
(R1)
This is an 8
oz. flat top
from the
1960s.
Libby’s
Pineapple
Grapefruit
Drink (R1)
This is a 4
ounce
drink can
from the
50s or 60s.
Welchade Grape
Drink (common)
This a 46 oz.
paper label from
the late 60s.
(George Reichl)
Non-Domestic Cans:
Real Fresh
Chocolate Milk
Shake (R2)
This is a pre-zip
code can from the
mid-60s. A vanilla flavor was
included in the
last volume.
Bongo
Grape
This 10 oz.
can is from
Puerto Rico.
(George
Reichl)
http://www.canogram.com
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Hires Diet Root
Beer
This is a rare
Canadian flat top
from the 1960s.
(George Reichl)
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Undocumented Finds, cont’d.
U.S. Cans with Zip Codes
MDI Lemon
Lime (R1)
This is a
previously
identified, but
unpictured flavor from the
late 1960s.
(George Reichl)
Rite Good Cola (R3)
This is a much better
example of the cola
flavor of this scarce
label from 1970.
(George Reichl)
U.S. Pre-Zip Code Cans
C & C Super Coola
Root Beer cone top
(common?)
In the last volume
I pictured an offgrade variation of
this cone top with
the “skinny S” and
open ampersand
version. This is a
better example
that I found on eBay.
Can-A-Pop
Orange (R2)
This is an unpictured orange flavor of
the late generation CanA-Pop label.
Canada Dry
Hi-Grape
(common)
Here are a
couple different shades of
the this mid1960s label.
Canfield’s Diet
SlimLine Cola
(R2)
Two of these
cans have recently shown up
on e-Bay. The
label is quite
rare.
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Curt’s
Orange (R0)
This is a new
flavor of the
rare Curt’s
label.
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Undocumented Finds, cont’d.
Fanta Grape
(common)
As frequently
seen with older
grape cans,
there are two
different shades
of purple.
Diet-Rite Ginger
Ale (R3)Note the
different sized
contents within
the shields.
Hoffman Lemon Soda
(common)
The can on the right has the
“U” at the bottom of the label.
I’ve noticed this in several
other Hoffman cans as well.
When looking at the Hoffman
cans on my shelf, I also noticed
a number of them that had
embossed lettering on the
seams.
Penguin cola
(R0)
The can on
the left has
an enamel
colored paint
as opposed to
metallic.
Shasta Diet Orange & Diet
Creme (novelty)
These are a couple of
rolled cans, missing colors
and without any mandatory canning information.
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Patio Orange
(R0)
The can on the
right has silver colors
throughout
instead of the
commonly
seen white.
Pic-A-Pop
Orange (R4)
This is a
clean example of this
very desirable label.
Shasta Imitation
Grape Punch 10 oz.
(R0)
This is a beautiful
example of a 10 oz.
Shasta Punch can
without the blue
color mixed in.
(Dave Tanner)
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Undocumented Finds, cont’d.
Staff Upswing (R0)
Two variations of
these first generation Staff cans exist;
with and without the
contents at the bottom of the label.
This is the first
Upswing that I’ve
seen without the
contents.
Sunny Jim Sugar Free
Cola (R0)This is another flavor of this
very rare early 1960s
label.
(The Rusty Bunch)
Yukon Tropical Punch (R0)
The only other example that I’ve
seen of the tropical punch flavor
had two lines of text vs. the three.
CHECK OUT THE
HAPPENINGS
PAGE
FOR 2014
EVENTS!
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HAPPENINGS
by Steve Frost
Blue Gray—February 12-16, 2014-Fredericksburg, VA (http://bluegrayshow.com)
PepsiFest-March 13-15, 2014-Indianapolis, IN
Coke National Convention-July 15-19, 2014-Springfield, IL
BCCA CANvention-August 28-30, 2014-Dallas, TX
Many shows not listed.
Please check your state or local area or email me and I will try and find shows in your area.
I want to wish everybody a very, Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year!!
Steve
[email protected]
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Classifieds
I have around 200 different soda cone tops (my specialty) and want more! I collect just about any displayable condition. Please visit my website www.conetops.com and help me find ones I don't have.
Jim Wicker [email protected]
For Sale: Six totes of cans.
A few cone tops, several flat tops
and the rest are pull tops.
Please email me which cans you
are looking for to buy or sell at:
[email protected].
Wanted:
FOR TRADE:
Twilight Pepsi cans from
Italy. Have lots to trade or
will buy.
Barry Skokowski
Have new Hershey Park. PA 2013 Pepsi,
Diet Pepsi, Mountain Dew cans plus many
other Coke and Pepsi cans to trade for other
cans I need from around the world. Send
your list today!
[email protected].
Barry Skokowski
[email protected]
Coke, Pepsi, Mt. Dew and other commemorative cans to buy or sell.
To trade or sell: Thousands of cans:
cone tops, flat tops, pull tab, Coke and Pepsi cans.
Email: Gene Judd, Indpls., IN @ [email protected]
or www.cokecanfan.com
Wanted:
Grade 1 three piece steel 8oz. Nugrape
[with grapes on can] and 12oz. Domonts Root Beer.
John C. Hantz
[email protected]
Looking for:
Dr Pepper knock-off cans, especially Dr. Bruno’s, Dr. Cool, Dr. Furr’s, Dr. Randalls, Dr. Tex, Mr. M and others.
Willing to buy or trade.
Please email Gary at [email protected] for trade list and complete wish list.
Wanted: Cans to complete the following set:
7 Sunday Funnies cans
Beetle Bailey Grape 1-16 & 4-29, Blondie Grape 7-2, Popeye Red Pop 9-14 & 12-4
Hagar Grape 3-30 & Root Beer 2-21
Contact Bob Luciano: [email protected]
610-253-4230
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Classifieds
Wanted:
Would like to buy or trade for these U.S. aluminum brands - Aquapure, Bruno's,
Cole Cold, Community, Dra Cola, Fred's Choice, Hughes, Levis, Liday, Malibu,
Mountain Joe's, Nehi Lockjaw, Newman's, Premium Club, Price Rite, R Cola,
Recycle Fest, Rosauer's, Sea, Wahoo, Zydecola, Spicewood, Smith's First Choice,
Au Natural, Aloe Quench and K n 'K Preferred. I have many traders including
100's of special issue sports cans.
Thanks and please email Chuck Mead at [email protected].
Wanted:
Soda cans for sale:
RC Baltimore Colts 1977 Football:
10,000+ miscellaneous soda cans steel and
alum. Wide variety of private label store brands,
about 10% major brands, some flat top, very few pre
-zip.
Raymond Chester, Jim Cheyunski, Dan
Dickel, Ken Huff, Ken Mendenhall, Sanders
Shivers
Jeff Haas (St Louis area) 618-407-2673
Contact Bob Luciano:
[email protected]
FOR TRADE:
For Sale:
Have Flintstone soda cans from the 90s, new Mountain Dew and Diet Mountain Dew 24 oz. cans, current
16 oz. Coca Cola can, Pepsi PA farm show 2013 can,
and many other commemorative Coke, Pepsi, beer
cans & aluminum bottles to trade for Coke and Pepsi
cans and aluminum bottles I need from around the
world. Your list gets mine!
I have many soda cone tops for sale. Bala
Club BC $350, C&C 9oz. #4, 6, 8 from $100$600, Regents Orange $400, just to name a
few.
Contact: Jim Wicker: [email protected]
Barry Skokowski
[email protected]
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OF THESE
CANS THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING
TO TRADE OR SELL?
I HAVE MANY CANS FOR TRADE!
PLEASE E-MAIL Gary at:
[email protected] FOR LIST.
THANKS!
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