Report Draft CYCC - Corstorphine Community Council

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Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre
The Public Hall Company
CYC/PHC: Future Development of 14 Kirk Loan
Engaging with the Community
Report
Siobhan MacKenzie
Research and Development Intern
June- September 2015
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Table of Contents
Page
Introduction
3
Background
3
Goal
4
Methodology
4
Participants
6
Present Findings
12
Initial Observations
12
Facility Coordinators
14
Organisation Representatives
19
19
Local Group Members
22
Public Survey
23
Results
31
Youth Provision
43
Discussion
45
Assets, Gaps and Opportunities
46
Conclusions
47
References
50
Appendix
51
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Introduction
The aim of this report is to determine what community opinion suggests in terms of the
development of the new Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre within the Public Hall
Company building.
Initially outlining the activities and groups on offer in the Corstorphine area will contribute
to an understanding of any potential gaps in both facilities and activities. Once this has been
determined; questionnaires, interviews and visual observations will aid in finding out what
activities or groups’ people would like to see running in the area and more specifically in the
new Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre. Since the original Public Hall Company’s
building was involved in a fire, the activities and groups of the Corstorphine Youth and
Community Centre have been relocated, this report hopes to determine who will return and
identify potential new groups interested in utilising the building and identify potential gaps
with regard to local activities. Furthering this, the report will identify whether a building of
two stories is a viable option and information which will assist with the completion of
funding applications.
The research question itself concerns facilities and activities that will be included in the new
Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre. To reach this conclusion consideration into the
wider umbrella topics of what exists and what people want will inform the direction of the
report. This will be achieved by initially speaking with facility coordinators, from all local
centres’ such as churches and halls, before reaching out to activity group leaders, group
members and members of the community.
In conjunction with this report, there will be two supplementary books; Workbook One:
Primary Research and Workbook Two: Data and Analysis- they contain all primary research,
data, analysis and summaries. As the report progresses they can be conferred.
Key Words and Abbreviations
Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre (CYCC) Public Hall Company (PHC) Community
Learning Development (CLD) Facility, Activity, Demographic (a particular sector of a
population)
Background
“On October 15 2013 numbers 13 and 14 Kirk Loan Corstorphine were badly damaged by a
fire which started in No 13 and quickly spread through the roof space to No 14. No 13 ‘The
Old Library’ is privately owned while No 14 is owned by The Public Hall Company and the
home of Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre.
The Public Hall Company was formed in 1891 with the aim of building a hall, a library and a
recreation space; although the library was not funded until 1904; funding for the Library
came from The Carnegie Trust. Shares were sold for £1.00 each and the site on the corner of
Kirk Loan was purchased. Today the majority of shares are held by Corstorphine Literary and
Geographical Society, Corstorphine Bowling Club and Lodge St John Corstorphine No. 788.
By the late 1970's the building was no longer able to meet its expenses and was in financial
difficulties. Corstorphine Youth Centre Association, through fundraising and with help from
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Lothian Regional Council, was able to secure a 21 year lease for the building and hence
Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre was born.
Since its formation CYC has run groups and classes for all ages and sectors of the community
and hopefully will carry on doing so for many years to come. The Public Hall Company are
committed to re-building the centre, and CYC will continue to manage the building on its
behalf. The directors of Public Hall Company are currently consulting with engineers and
architects and any plans for the re-building will go out for consultation with the local
community.”1
Goals
The aim of this report is to inform the Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre and the
Public Hall Company on the following:

What facilities, groups and activities are currently running in the area of benefit of
the Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre
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What facilities, groups and activities people would like to see running in the area
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What facilities, groups and activities people would like to use in the new centre
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Which groups and individuals who previously used the centre are intending to return
to the new building
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Identify any new groups who are potential users of the new building
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Identify local facilities which are overstretched in terms of usage or where there are
facilities not being fully utilised and why
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Whether a building of two stories would be a useful/ viable addition to
Corstorphine’s facilities
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Information which will assist with the completion of funding applications

Inform the future development plan for the Corstorphine Youth and Community
Centre
Methodology
In order to obtain the relevant information a variety of research methods will be implemented. Interviews will be conducted with all local facility coordinators; this allows the representation of the facility with more specificity than a questionnaire or survey, while also
collecting information from those most knowledgeable in their respective fields. There will
be an initial transcript of questions to ask but with the nature of the interviews, they will
progress in different directions depending on the type of facility and how the CYC could impact them. As the research progressed the interviews with the facility coordinators were
adapted to include details on how they themselves advertise their groups or activities.
Questionnaires will be provided to all local representatives from charities, organisations or
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1 http://www.corstorphine-youth-and-community-centre.co.uk/cyc-after-the-fire/
ty; the questions will take into account the fact there is not a local facility. Representatives
from external organisations, running throughout Edinburgh, will also be contacted with regard to interest in using the new building to develop their group or initiative within the Corstorphine community.
Visual observation of the facilities, in which the groups have access to, determine both
what potentialities there are for new facilities and what is already in existence.
Paper and internet searches determined what activities and groups run in the Corstorphine
area. From this initial research I was able to identify 170 groups, clubs and activities including those of the CYC Centre, in the area whereby members could be asked to participate.
The willing groups would form the supplementary basis of the research as well as indicate
initial gaps and opportunities to be catered for in the new building.
As there is such a large array of groups, questionnaires are a concise way of gathering information. Standard practice suggests questionnaires are completed anonymously thus ensuring confidentiality. For the purpose of this report, the questionnaires will be broken into
six sub- groups or ‘linked-anonymised’ (coded in some way);
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Corstorphine Youth and Community Group Leaders
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Corstorphine Youth and Community Group Members

Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre Medical Groups
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Local Group Leaders
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Local Group Members

Members of the Community
It should be made clear the variation is to be sure the most relevant information is collected
from the right person. The variation is slight and only accommodates the recipient it will not
lead to variation in the resulting data. The questionnaires will be implemented in person
and collection will be pre-arranged.
An interview will be conducted with a representative of the Dementia Project. They have
been considered independently as they will be new to the centre and could potentially have
a large proportion of use.
Members of the community will form a large majority of the research data and public
opinion will be ascertained by the implementation of questionnaires and surveys conducted
both online and in person.
“A survey is defined as the measure of opinions or experiences of a group of people
through the asking of questions. This is opposed to a questionnaire, which is defined as a set
of printed or written questions.” (R Penwarden, 06.01.2013, Accessed June 2015)
As the surveys are completed in person, more detail can be ascertained by the interviewer
and there is no collection process. We have recruited volunteers through the Corstorphine
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Youth and Community Centre contacts and they are willing to discuss these opinions with
members of the community; locally, with a stint at the local Tesco, a stall at the Fun Day 2
and within Winstons Lounge3.
An online survey has been made available through CYC contacts and Facebook groups:
www.surveymonkey.com/s/37G6WPM, there are restrictions in that you have to apply
questions from a predetermined bank then alter the details to make them prevalent to the
research question. Six questions were developed concerning the future of the CYC/PHC
building and will further determine public opinion.
Local councillors from the Corstorphine area have also been contacted with the intent of
contributing their opinion to the development of the new building. They will be considered
with regard to potential use of the building and the impact on the Corstorphine community.
Ethnographic research; or the scientific description of peoples and cultures with their
customs, habits, and mutual differences will further enrich the data with minimal influence
on results or outcomes.
Tasks to be progressed:
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Paper and Internet searches
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Visual Observations
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Questionnaires
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Face to face interviews
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Group Interviews
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Public survey
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Identify any potential new users of the centre
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Collect and Collate existing information
Participants
Facility coordinators representing all the local centres, churches and halls, were contacted
and asked permission to contribute their opinion to the research data through interviews.
They were also asked permission to involve their group members and leaders in the
research process via questionnaires. Those who contributed to the research data;
Drumbrae Library Hub
Corstorphine Library
Corstorphine Heritage Centre
Craigmount Community Education Wing
Rannoch Community Centre
Carrickvale Community Centre
St Thomas’ Episcopal Church
Corstorphine Parish Church
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Library Team Leader
Library Team Leader
Archivist
CLD Worker
CLD Worker
CLD Worker
Church Coordinator
Church Secretary
2 St Margaret’s Park, Fun Day in aid of CYC Funding June 27.06.15
3 Winstons Lounge, 20 Kirk Loan, Corstorphine, Edinburgh, EH12 7HD
St Ninian’s Church
Munro Community Centre
United Free Church
The Church of St John the Baptist
CLD Almond and Western
Church Officer
Centre Manager
Minister
Pastoral Assistant
CLD Worker
Representatives from local organisations, charities and initiatives were contacted as they
contribute to the development of the community but do not run from a permanent local
facility. They were emailed a questionnaire to complete. Representatives from external
organisations that run throughout Edinburgh were contacted and asked if they wished to
expand into the Corstorphine community through the potential use of the new centre.
Respondents;
VOCAL- Voice of Carers across Lothian
Edinburgh Art Collage
Chief Executive
Programme Director
The members of the Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre were contacted with regard
to the groups or activities they run or participate in. The group leaders and members were
given two respective questionnaires to complete. Respondents;
Ladies Lunch Club
Gallery Art Group
Men’s Shed
Karate
Jewellery and Card Making
Drama Skool
Corstorphine Loan Rangers
Chess Club
Ante Natal
Walking Group
Holiday Club
After School Club
Table Tennis
Similarly, local group leaders and members were given questionnaires with the aim of
discussing the development of the CYC/ PHC building. Respondents;
Woman’s Rural Institute
Corstorphine Bowlers
The Dementia Project
In terms of members of the community, a survey was conducted locally, at the St Margaret’s
Park Fun Day, within Winstons Lounge and over a two day stint at the local Tesco.
Community Member Questionnaires were also distributed from within Winstons Lounge
and the Corstorphine Hub4.
With regard to the online community, Facebook groups and known contacts of the CYC
were provided a link to contribute opinions on an online survey. Facebook groups;
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4 Corstorphine Hub, 191 St John’s road, CYC current location
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CYC- a phoenix from the ashes
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Corstorphine Public Hall Rebuild
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Corstorphine Memories
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Corstorphine Chat
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Corstorphine: A Friendly Village for Friendly People
Councillors were contacted with regard to the provision of a potential new meeting space
within the local community.
Youths were considered independently as multiple facilities and community members
identified the importance of youth provision. Facilities with youth provision were initially
considered.
The Citadel Youth Centre, Leith
Gylemuir Youth Club
The After School Club, CYCC
The Holiday Club, CYCC
All participant listings are available in Workbook One: Primary Research.
All pending responses are identified in the appendix.
Not Participating
Although the Table Tennis from within the CYC have relocated to the Edinburgh Napier
Campus, the facility will not be considered within this report as they have identified cost
there as being too high, the facility is not local and the vast array of facilities do not
represent the local community as they are purpose built for the diversity of a University.
The church coordinator at St Thomas’ Episcopal Church completed an interview regarding
facilities and activities within the area but did not implement questionnaires to the groups
within the centre as they did not feel the groups would benefit from participation.
Craigsbank Church feels that the most appropriate person to talk to would be a Session
Clerk and as they do not return until late August they will not be included within the
research data.
Research Setting
The research has taken place within Corstorphine as the outcome of the project impacts the
local community. With regard to online groups, they were concentrated to those with an
affiliation to Corstorphine. This is an opportunity to contribute to the development of the
local community centre.
“The research setting can be seen as the physical, social, and cultural site in which
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making, and the researcher studies the participants in their natural setting.” (Lisa M. Given
2008, Accessed June 2015)
There were some exceptions with centres locality; the Carrickvale Community Centre was
added as local community members have identified it as somewhere they use. The Carrick
Knowe Scout Hall was also added as it is hosting groups that used to use the CYC building;
Karate and the Gallery Art Group. Their facilities will be considered to see all advantages and
disadvantages comparatively to the original building and a new Corstorphine Youth and
Community Centre within the Public Hall Company’s building.
Study Sample
With the sampling methods, selective methods can be broken down into subcategories. It is
important to look to experts within the field of study to gain both insight and to give validity
to findings. The facility coordinators would inform the basis of the research,
“Expert sampling involves the assembling of a sample of persons with known or
demonstrable experience and expertise in some area.” (William M. K 20.10.2006, Accessed
June 2015)
As the research area has already been defined to the development of the Corstorphine
Youth and Community Centre, purposive sampling will allow the collection of data focused
on this intent.
“In purposive sampling, we sample with a purpose in mind. We usually would have
one or more specific predefined groups we are seeking.” (William M. K 20.10.2006,
Accessed June 2015)
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After seeking permission from facility coordinators, members of local groups and activities
will contribute opinion to help determine what is available as well as identifying any gaps.
Selective methods of sampling can limit the range of data if the participants are predisposed
to attending groups and activities in the area. To combat this ‘simple random sampling’ will
contribute to a more generalised opinion within the local area and will be achieved when
conversing with community members via questionnaires and survey’s both in person and
accessible online.
Participant Consent
The facility coordinators were asked permission to involve their group members in the
research project through questionnaires and if they, themselves, would contribute their
opinion through interviews. Permission was sought by email, phone or in person. The
purpose of the report was outlined and then it was determined if they would be interested
in participating towards the research data. It was also made clear the intent of the research
was not to take any groups away from their location but to inform only the awareness of
activities and facilities in the area.
Similarly representatives without local facilities, from across Edinburgh, were contacted by
email and asked permission to contribute the opinion of their initiative, charity or
organisation either by questionnaire or emailed correspondence.
Group Leaders and Members of the Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre, and other
local facilities, were asked permission to involve their opinions via questionnaires. With
regard the Dementia Project, permission was sought from the project manager by email to
discuss their future within the new CYC/ PHC building.
Permission was sought from members of the community by initially outlining the intent of
the report and making the questionnaire available for completion. The survey targeted local
participants willing to contribute their opinion. Volunteers were recruited from within the
CYC contacts to carry out the survey and would ask permission of members of the public as
they were approached. The Community Champion was contacted from Tesco and asked
permission to have volunteers stationed at Tesco to do a two day stint of data collection.
All local councillors were emailed and asked if they wished to contribute to the research
data at their convenience.
As provision for youths was identified by both community members and facility
coordinators; they were given particular attention towards the later stages of the report.
Coordinators of facilities with a youth presence were originally contacted to describe their
intention for future local youth provision and the potentiality for the new CYC centres youth
provision.
Subject Anonymity and Confidentiality
“We must attempt, at all times, to guarantee promises of confidentiality made to
research participants, where possible. Data Protection legislation was established to ensure
that personal information, where desirable, should be kept confidential and be stored in a
secure manner according to the provisions of the Act. Whilst not all data subjects may be
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concerned about their anonymity, others are. For those subjects who wish to remain
anonymous, for archiving we must seek to anonymise identifying information about them”
(L. Corti, A. Day & G. Backhouse, 2000, Accessed June 2015)
With questionnaire and survey participants, gaining consent to archive data at the time of
fieldwork will offer each participant assurance of the intent of the collected results. With
regard to online participation, this is completely anonymous.
With interview participants, consent will be given before any opinions or views expressed
are archived. Although with any interview, the interviewee is limited in terms of anonymity
as they represent the institution with whom you wish to address.
Method of Recording Data
When interviewing, hand written notes were taken and then the interview was typed
immediately after while the data was still prominent.
The questionnaires from the Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre groups, all local
groups and community members were completed by the members themselves. Once they
had been returned they were typed up and then general key themes were drawn from the
research data and typed into a summary. Additionally, any emailed samples of the
questionnaire would be archived unaltered.
Online responses were taken from Survey Monkey and key or recurring themes were drawn
from within the research data. Similarly, surveys conducted in person were collated and key
or recurring themes were drawn from the research data.
All interview transcripts, questionnaire and survey responses are available in Workbook 2:
Data and Analysis
Decision to stop data collection
“There is no right answer to the question of the sample size. It partly depends on several
factors: the degree of commitment to the case study level of analysis and reporting, the
richness of the individual cases, and the constraints one is operating under” (Jonathan A.
Smith and Mike Osborn, Page 56, 2007)
Within this research project, the only restraint was time, as this was a thirteen week
position the timing determined how extensively the research can be undertaken. After the
position has concluded the research can be continued by the Corstorphine Youth and
Community Centre.
Data analysis and Verification
“Within the conduct of inquiry itself, verification strategies that ensure both reliability and
validity of data are activities such as ensuring methodological coherence, sampling
sufficiency, developing a dynamic relationship between sampling, data collection and
analysis, thinking theoretically, and theory development.” (Morse, Barrett, Mayan, Olson
and Spiers 2002, Accessed June 2015)
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As the report information concerns ideas for the future development of the CYC/PHC
building, key themes can be identified by the repetition of phrases or key ideas.
While going through the interviews with facility coordinators, prominent themes were
identified through the interview and noted.
Similarly, while considering the opinions of community members, trends in data, primarily
repetition of ideas formed the key basis for determining what people would like to see.
Present Findings
“Given that we are in a situation where thinking about history and memory has certain
possibilities and potentialities, the role of critical reflection is not to take the side of the
bulldozers but to help the movement to define what its options are in any given circumstances, to identify the wider cultural loads it might be bearing, and to help clarify how it
should advance its values.” (Patrick Wright, page 198, 2010)
For Under 5
Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre: Ante Natal, New Parents
Corstorphine Library:
Bookbug
The Rannoch Centre:
Parents and Toddlers, Childminders and Baby
Ballet
Carrickvale Community Centre:
Parent and Toddler
St Thomas’:
Mother and Toddler
St. Anne’s:
Jack and Jill Club
St. Ninian’s:
Toddler Group
Corstorphine Parish:
Sunday Club and Crèche, Messy Church and
Corstorphine Village Playgroup
Craigmount Education Wing:
Baby Sensory and Breastfeeding
Gylemuir Community Association:
Gylemuir Playgroup, Gylemuir Childminding
It is clear that new born babies are well accommodated for with parent and toddler groups
in a majority of both churches and centres. In terms of potential gaps, there is the possibility
to develop Baby Sensory and Activity programmes as the centre’s current focus is on the
parental aspect. Furthermore, there may be an opportunity to develop a father and toddler
group as there is less of a focus on this.
For 5- 16
Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre: After School Club, Karate, Holiday Club and
Drama Skool
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Corstorphine Library:
Crafty Friday, Dramarama and sARTurday’s
Drumbrae Library Hub:
Hubbub, Funky Friday’s, Coder Dojo,
Gamecraft!, Film Club
Rannoch Centre:
Dunedin Dance Academy, Jr. and Sr. Youth
Clubs and Karate
Fencing is fun, Karate, the Young ones Jr. Youth
Club, Cheerleading, Archery, Painting, Yamaue
Aiki Jutsu, Guitar Classes and Boys Street Dance
St Anne’s:
Sunday School
Corstorphine Parish Church:
Boys Brigade, Scouts, Rainbows, Brownies,
Guides, Theatre and Tai Kwon Do
St. Andrew’s:
Rainbows, Brownies, Guides
St. John the Baptist:
Junior Youth Group and Senior Youth Group
Gylemuir Community Association:
Teens Breakdance, Internet Café Children’s
drop in, Thursday Youth Club, Children’s guitar
lessons
There are a wide range of both physical and creative activities for children to involve
themselves for example; karate, dance classes, theatre and art related activities. There is
interest in the CYC’s After School Club, with 53 members, the youth groups of the Church of
St John the Baptist with around 30 members in each and the Hubbub youth group with up
to 40 members. A local youth group could be introduced to provide seven day week youth
provision.
The facilities with the most expansive selection of leisure activities for this demographic
include; Carrickvale Community Centre and the Gylemuir Community Association.
For Adults
Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre: The Literary and Geographical Society, Chess
Club, Table Tennis, Loan Rangers, Gallery Art
Group, Ladies Lunch Club, the Walking Group,
Men’s Shed and Jewellery and Card Making
Drumbrae Library Hub:
Patchwork, Scrabble and Corstorphine Cast Offs
Dower House:
Bridge, Woman’s Rural Institute, Waverly craft
Group, Coffee Morning, Photography,
Community Council and Adult Singing
The Rannoch Centre:
Bingo, Badminton, Bowling, CYCC Bowlers,
Council, Mature Movers, Everyday English,
Allotment Group, Line Dancing and Sequence
Dancing
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Forever Young, Gentle Exercise 50+, Computing,
Art Drawing, Life Drawing Literacy, Spanish,
Pilates, Esol, Zumba, Bridge, Numeracy,
Upholstery, Carpet Bowling, Highland Dance,
Stop Smoking Support, Computers and Social
Media, Fit Steps and The Vale Club
St. Thomas’ Episcopal Church:
Wednesday Fellowship, Coffee Plus, Woman’s
Prayer Breakfast and Men’s Breakfast
St Anne’s:
Church Choir, The Guild, The FAN Club, Carer’s
Support, The Book Group, Badminton, Church
Flowers and the Walking Group
Corstorphine Parish Church:
Church Choir, The Guild, Friendly Hour, Men’s
Breakfast, Line Dancing, Easy Exercise, the
Seedling Coffee Morning and Zumba for Boys
Craigmount Education Wing:
Tai Chi and the Creative Company
There is a varied selection of groups and activities on offer for adults however they
concentrate more on 50+ and those with new born babies. There are ample coffee
mornings, lunch/ breakfast clubs, crafts and exercise programmes. Initial observations
suggest there is potential gap for more Computer Classes and less genre specific Exercise
Classes for the older ages. There is a clear gap on what is on offer for those aged between
30 and 50 and factoring in evening classes within the new centre would complement work
commitments.
Summary of Facility Coordinator Interviews
Craigmount Education Wing, CLD Worker
Groups provided by council, independent and from within Craigmount Education wing.
Supports a wide range of demographics although the accessibility for elderly makes it
difficult, a direct bus route would help. The rooms are fit for purpose and accessible
providing there is a janitor present (if not £35 to get one out). They can accommodate
children’s birthday parties and there is a demand for fitness and exercise classes. Weekends
and Evening are the most difficult times to accommodate.
Young people are the hardest to accommodate for because of contrasting time slots of
various activities, communicating with local facilities to complement time slots could
combat this.
[CYCC] “Historically it was amazing for youth work” and the addition of the new building has
the potential to compliment the activities within the wing; communicating what is available
with participants and facilities. A neutral meeting space would benefit young people with
regard to pupils from different schools feeling comfortable when congregating out with
school hours.
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Corstorphine Heritage Centre, Archivist
Dower House has two rooms for hire that are usually hired out together with access to a
kitchen facility. There is a demand for Dower House that cannot always be met due to
capacity, holding a maximum of around 65 people. External groups convene within Dower
House but double bookings can sometimes lead to inappropriate matches. There is also an
opportunity with regard to children’s birthday parties as these are not accommodated.
Corstorphine Library, Team Leader
The groups within the library are run independently with their own staff. They cater to all
demographics however feel there is space to improve activities and facilities for teenagers
in the local area. They have public computer access and access to scanners and printers and
feel that they were utilised more when the CYC was open; attracting members of the after
school club particularly, into the facility. There is no separate community room and cannot
accommodate groups if their own is running. In terms of the CYC [continue] “what they have
been doing before” and potentially complement each other’s facilities and activities. “If
there are any activities were we can work together that would be really good.”
Corstorphine Parish Church, Church Secretary
There is one free exercise class with the rest of the groups being comprised of private or
church organisations. They feel they cater to most demographics however the secretary
feels there is room to develop a mother and toddler group and youth club for teenagers.
They have two halls with kitchens, floor space and have very limited storage; groups being
unable to leave their equipment there. They accommodate children’s birthday parties but
only during the day and are reluctant to have anything at night as noise complaints can be
an issue. The minister also does not wish any groups to be running on a Sunday morning
when the service is running, this is a personal preference. The secretary identified a lack of
activities for young teenagers although accepts it’s hard to determine what to provide for
them. In terms of the CYC the secretary described it as “very good anyway they did cater for
almost everyone.” They will be glad to see the return of the CYC and hope they can help
each other in facilitating a wide range of activities. “Hoping it will be built as soon as
possible.”
St Thomas’ Episcopal Church, Church Coordinator
The halls are mainly used for private hire and the church is no longer available to hire due to
mistreatment. They accommodate the very young and some adults but the elderly are not
accommodated for at the moment as there are not the required social staffs to do so. They
have Hall space and an overhead projector however don’t encourage its use as it requires an
extra person to come out and set it up/ operate it. They can accommodate most of their
enquiries but not for consecutive days. The church coordinator has identified computing
classes as something they feel there is an opportunity for. In terms of the CYC the church
coordinator does not feel that the building hugely impacts them as it hasn’t in the past,
however, if they were ever overwhelmed with demand they could work together to
accommodate different groups.
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Carrickvale Community Centre, CLD Worker
The Carrickvale Community Centre is equipped well and holds a wide range of activities.
There is a high proportion of those over 60 with the hardest age group to reach, being
identified as 14- 25. They have ample facilities and can mainly accommodate any requests
for use of space however it is more expensive on a Saturday afternoon and Sunday due to
janitorial expenses. They did identify a separate kitchen area as something they do not have
as the main catering space is occupied by the café; there could be a demand for cooking/
catering classes. The addition of the CYC would complement the Carrickvale Community
Centre and “we would work together when needed.”
St Ninian’s Church, Church Officer
St Ninian’s covers a wide range of activities; both independent and church run. They cover
all age groups although there is perhaps a lack of things for the youth. They have ample hall
space and can accommodate most times except Sunday morning when the service is on and
reluctant some evenings because of noise. The Indian community has been identified using
the halls of late with celebrations as well as classes; Indian dancing styles particularly. There
is sensitivity within the political communities as churches don’t affiliate with political groups
so they have to be sensitive when holding meetings or groups for political campaigns. In
terms of the new CYC building, they do not feel there would be a negative impact as their
groups are well established and people have become accustom to their tutors or times.
There is a desire to coordinate and keep each other’s groups and activities informed in
terms of what is available.
Rannoch Community Centre, CLD Worker
The groups and activities from within the Rannoch Community Centre have their own
independent group accounts but it is a council building. They cater to all demographics but
the CLD worker has identified 30- 50 as being the hardest age group to accommodate. This
could be because of work commitments but they were unsure of any specific reason. They
have a hall, two meeting rooms and although there is no café, they have space for a coffee
bar which is a communal space the groups make use of. They receive regular requests from
groups wishing to use their facilities and can accommodate these if it is in the afternoons.
Mornings, evenings and weekends are harder to accommodate but they could do a one off
thing like a meeting. They do not accommodate birthday parties and things could be
susceptible to janitorial overtime. They do not tend to accommodate leisure activities but
receive enquiries for meeting space or children/ community members. They do not feel
there is a lack of any specific activities and feel they have improved on what they have to
offer. With regard to the CYC centre, they wish to see it continue to accommodate the
needs of the local community and “keep the youth side of things.” They do not feel the new
building will have an impact on their centre and are willing to continue working together to
inform the community on what is available. “Keep open communication, definitely.”
Drumbrae Library Hub, Team Leader
The library has its core groups run by the library staff then there are additional groups like
the CLD who hold their meetings there or the teen group on a Tuesday. In order to
advertise, they have posters in the library and use their Facebook account. They have
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Twitter but the library Team Leader felt this doesn’t attract the teenager age range. As
primarily it is a library they attract all demographics, there may be difficulties with the 1821 age range but even then they have that age group coming in. In terms of what they
accommodate; they have games, consuls, crafts, computer access and a coding club to help
10- 16 year olds with coding. They have hireable space and enquiries to use it which they
keep for community members. In terms of times they cannot accommodate; they are not
open on a Sunday but have later closing hours Monday- Wednesday, closing at 20.00. There
are no new groups looking to use their facility, they have a long running Minecraft group
which isn’t accessible in many libraries. They have a large group of teenagers, up to 40, in
attendance on the Tuesday and they watch films, play games and do general activities.
There can be up to 20 teenagers in every night and the Library Team Leader attributes this
to there being limited alternatives for that age range and they are local to the library ‘on
their doorstep’. The numbers have been dropping in the last year or so.
In terms of the new CYC building, they were not fully aware of what was going on and again
information has been identified as crucial within the new building. The Team Leader also felt
Libraries and Community Centres should work together as much as possible and this is not
always the case. They do not feel the new building will impact on their facility unless there
were groups that had clashing time slots. They have well established groups and people
coming from as far as North Berwick to partake in Coder Dojo [coding club].
Corstorphine Bowling Club, Secretary
The Corstorphine Bowling Club hosts various independent groups but do not advertise other
than their bowling groups on their website. They primarily cater for those 50+ but do not
deliberately exclude any demographic. They can accommodate meetings and parties for up
to 80 people, with regular enquiries into the use of their facility. However, all applications
must go through a club member and they cannot accommodate groups during the bowling
season; April to September. In terms of the new CYC building, the secretary does not feel it
will impact their facility but would like to see smaller group activities available within the
CYC.
United Free Church, Minister
The United Free Church are currently undergoing changes in terms of facilitates and
available activities. The church itself is limited in members, with only 20, but is fully booked
in terms of independent groups and activities with the exception of a Thursday evening. It is
£12 per hour to hire space but no alcohol is allowed on the premises; this is not a church
belief, but a rule dating back to the prohibition era. They have refurbished the church hall;
ripping out the pews in place of seats that can be stacked to one side, lighter wooden floors
and lighter paint throughout. There is space outside with the potential to develop an
allotment style plot.
The two main goals of the church right now are to establish a Youth Club in conjunction with
Pauline Cranston (after school club) and a food bank (Basic Bank).
After the fire at the CYC/ PHC there was a surge in the number of groups using the church’s
facilities and the reopening of the CYC/ PHC could either impact them hugely or not at all; it
all depends on what groups stay and what groups return. The fire was “bad for the
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community but good for the church, blessed by the unfortunate fire.” Other potentialities
for the church would be the inclusion of support for graduates struggling to find third sector
work and the potential for the church to act as free exhibition/ gallery space for local artists.
The minister is happy to establish a line of communication between the church and the new
CYC/ PHC building and would be willing to help out. “We have been looking in as a church,
time to look out at the community.”
The Church of Saint John the Baptist, Pastoral Assistant
The church has two popular youth groups with around thirty members in each and a focus
from the church on the very old and the very young. In the future they hope to consider
those in the middle of the age range and talks are underway regarding the format after the
summer. They advertise their groups online and through their newsletter. They do not feel
there is a deliberate gap in demographics and identified youth provision as important. They
have a hall and a church and let the hall out. They can accommodate a wide range of
enquiries but do not feel there are common groups or trends wanting to make use of their
facility. Although they are not entirely sure, they do not feel there is a lack of any specific
groups or activities.
In terms of the new CYC, they have identified the older and younger age groups as
important to consider and does not think the restoration of the building will impact them
hugely. They would be happy to keep an open line of communication with regard to what is
on and what is available in the area.
CLD Almond and Western, CLD Worker
When first involved with the CYC there were four or five youth groups, heavily subscribed,
but they began to fade out before the destruction of the building. In terms of current youth
provision the CLD supports drama, music, under 12 clubs, sports and provisions for under
14’s, 120 twelve to fourteen year olds attend Open All Hours; a joint project with Edinburgh
Leisure on a Friday evening.
They have recently issued a report outlining what they have done throughout the last year.
In terms of what is available within the local area, they feel there is uniformed organisations
and privately run groups such as dance, drama and Murrayfield Ice Rink is popular with the
youths. There are not as many youth clubs in the area as there are in other areas, with the
demography there is less investment and less voluntary work. “There is a definite need in
the area for these kinds of services.”
In terms of gaps within provision in the local area, they have identified open access youth
clubs and provision for those under 12. Also, services for ethnic groups- St Augustine’s has
the highest proportion of culturally diverse pupils within Edinburgh, there could be
provisions to accommodate this.
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Organisation Representatives
VOCAL, Voice of Carers Across Lothian
VOCAL will contact the CYC, in August when the appropriate staff member returns, and have
shown an interest in developing their organisation within the Corstorphine community.
Edinburgh College of Art, Programme Director
ECA operates an outreach office which concentrates on making connections with all local
communities. All courses from ECA look for opportunities to make connections. In terms of
their provisions, they support music in the community; bringing music under graduates and
members of the community together, new technology and emerging technology, exhibition
opportunities for their students and increasing awareness of the college through the
Corstorphine community.
They can work in conjunction with existing groups or bring their own pop up activities there
is just the need for mutual willingness.
In terms of the older age groups, there is a considered digital divide, excluding a proportion
of the community.
Potential ideas in conjunction with the CYC include; community reporting project- easy ways
for people to tell stories. Making documentaries; CYC could be subject of documentarystory telling- life story telling. Possibly bring in positions and look at them in a new
perspective.
A potential community art project, the two groups running in conjunction could produce art
and exhibit in town, the walking groups could be adapted to have a potential sound walk or
a photography walk.
They have a research project currently running looking to engage with the older
demographic and their ‘wellness in the city’ and how the city serves people as they age.
The key ideas are to 1) get something started and just do it and 2) develop something for in
the future that people can look forward to. There is the potential to develop through the
whole of the Corstorphine Community.
Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre Groups
Men’s Shed
The Men’s Shed runs on a Monday afternoon and they have every intention of returning to
the new CYCC building. “Going to use it if it opens up” With the group not being under
pressure in terms of demand or facilities.
The facilities they require ideally are: workshop space for things like woodwork. They
require storage for tools and floor space for bowls/curling/archery.
They would like a permanent space of their own so they can lock up tools and keep
people/things safe.
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Jewellery and Card Making
The jewellery and card making classes; the facilities required are simply tables and chairs
and there is the hope to return with the group to the new building. The factors contributing
to this decision include; cost, distance, facilities and time slots.
Ladies Lunch Club
The members of the lunch club have identified carpet bowls as a popular activity in which
they participate out with the lunch club. In terms of what they would like to see they have
identified: Garden- Planting, Tea Dance, Singing Classes, Craft Class, Gentle Exercise, Curling,
Bingo and Dominoes as activities they would be interested in seeing in the new community
centre building. Factors that would contribute to use include; disabled access, cost and
distance from bus stops.
The leader of the lunch club has confirmed their intention to return to the new building
every Tuesday and suggests the only facilities required are ample space and availability to
cooked food at good value for money. The group is expanding but not overstretched in
terms of demand or facilities.
Chess Club
Cost is the biggest contributing factor to the chess clubs’ return. The new facilities they have
found at St Anne’s are suitable and the storage they require is minimal; clocks and chess
sets although they require 11 or 12 tables and seating for around 24.
Cost will primarily determine their return.
Karate
The Karate Group has relocated to the Carrick Knowe Scout Hall. In terms of facilities they
require; floor space or a hall is primarily all they need, changing rooms would be nice but
not essential and mats would be handy and would require storage. The new location is less
appropriate than that at the previous CYC building as the hall is smaller and although they
do not feel overstretched in terms of demand, they would only have space for a couple
more people to join the current group.
They intend to return to the new CYC building and the factors that would contribute to this
are cost and availability.
Drama Skool
The Drama Skool has moved to the United Free Church along with the After School Club.
With regard to facilities; they need somewhere to store props and a performance area. They
feel the current facilities are less appropriate than that of the previous CYC as there is no
performance area at the United Free Church and they have to hire theatre space up the
road, this is more expensive for parents but has been working quite well. They also cited the
hall at the United Free Church as ‘echoey’ and having access to two rooms, as they did at
the previous CYC, is better for them.
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They absolutely intend to return to the new CYC building although if the cost were to
change dramatically that would be something to consider at the time. In terms of demand
for the group they are in the middle of a change over with the school term and the older
ones are on leave however there will be an influx of younger members; high changeover.
They feel there is a general gap in the CYC to provide baby groups or 50p/£1 drop in
activities for community members as they have experience of this working in another
Edinburgh based Community Centre- Bonnyrigg.
Corstorphine Loan Rangers
The CLR predominantly need a meeting space as they walk from the meeting point. They
still meet outside the old CYC building unless it would be more beneficial to meet at a bus
stop or in town. They also used the old CYC building for our Annual General Meeting (April),
a Walks Meeting in October each year and sometimes for the Quiz Night in January. They
use The Hub to hold their AGM and the October Walks Meeting. They have also used Carrick
Knowe Rugby Club and the Dower House for Quiz Nights. In terms of facilities, “we just need
a hall suitable for about 40 people (for 3 occasions a year) with the option to have tables
and chairs for e.g. the Quiz Night and a kitchen or cafe for refreshments suits. Audio
equipment e.g. microphone and technology to allow photographs and/or PowerPoint
presentations to be shown on a large screen would be useful too.”
With regard to returning to the new CYC building, “We will always need to hold the two
annual meetings and it would be the group’s intention to hold these in a new centre,
providing the accommodation is suitable.” They have cited; cost, facilities and time slots as
contributing factors. They do not feel their group is over stretched in terms of demand and
would be interested in seeing “other activities e.g. Pilates or yoga, dancing, crafting etc.”
Gallery Art Group
The Gallery Art Group has relocated to the Scout Hall, Broomhall. They have every intention
of returning to the new Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre with cost and time slots
being the influential factors in this decision. The facilities they require are good storage for
art supplies and good lighting. They feel their new location is less appropriate than the
previous CYC building and they attribute this to poor lighting and poor heating. They do not
feel their group is overwhelmed in terms of demand and have no specific activities or
groups they would like to see accommodated within the new building.
Ante Natal
The Ante Natal group had appropriate facilities previously however lost use of the room.
They require only a TV and DVD as well as access to coffee/ tea and seating. They intend to
make use of the new building and their Friday afternoon time slot suits them. They have
identified a potentiality in the new building to expand their group in terms of more, longer
or bigger sessions.
The Holiday Club
The Holiday Club intends to return to the new building once it is up and running. Factors
that would contribute to this decision include, availability, cost and setting up. The leader is
involved in CYC committee issues and is keen to remain involved with the centre. In terms of
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facilities, they require the hall for games and sports, they use the TV room which has been
identified as good for lunch and Storage would be a plus. They have had difficulties at times
with sharing the space as other groups have had to make use of the hall and they have had
to move as to not put anyone out. Storage has been identified as a main point as the group
leader often has to take the equipment back and forth between each session.
Table Tennis
The table tennis group are interested in returning to the new building. They have identified
cost within their relocated facility as too high. In terms of equipment they have fold-away
tables for play. In terms of local league regulations they have to adhere to specific light
specifications (500 lux) and a minimum distance between the floor and the lighting of 3m
(10ft).
Local groups
Woman’s Rural Institute
In terms of groups that the woman of the rural woman’s institute would like to see; they
have identified both computer classes and health classes accommodating their age groups
as something they would be interested in. Seven of the eight asked saying they would be
interested in using the new CYC building and one open to the idea. In terms of activities, the
repeated suggestion from the results is the need to integrate age ranges within the groups;
“Classes with a mix of ages so we can learn from each other”
There is a desire to have computer access or computer education in the new building and
easy access into the halls with large disabled toilets.
The group leader identified disabled access and storage for club items as key requirements
as well as the possibility of a screen or video. They feel they could make use of these
facilities. In terms of groups running in the Corstorphine area, they have identified a carers’
group, youth club and dementia group as things they would like to see. Although they have
stated that their group is not overstretched in terms of demand, there could be potential in
the future to be overstretched in terms of facilities.
Corstorphine Bowling Club
The bowling club does not feel it is over stretched in terms of demand but there are
occasionally times whereby it feels overstretched in terms of facilities. They hope to see the
return of all existing groups from within the CYC and hope the new facility will be more
flexible and accessible in terms of space to maximise the amount of groups and activities
running at the same time. They feel they could make use of the new facility but only when
their own facility is stretched. In terms of activities, they wish to see the return of all the
previous groups and encourage the use of the local Dementia Project.
Dementia Project, Project Manager
“To enable the project to become a registered service with the Care Inspectorate we would
require at least one accessible toilet in addition to the toilets currently on site. Due to
increasing membership additional activity/dining space would also be beneficial as would a
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larger kitchen. Our current premises are in a poor state of repair and as a consequence we
had been looking for building opportunities locally when we were approached by the CYC to
consider relocating to the new CYC building. The new building would be centrally located
within our catchment area making it an ideal relocation area. I feel the project would
benefit from being located in a ‘community type’ building, sharing experiences, costs,
knowledge etc. Obviously a new building would offer us improved facilities which will
enhance the services that we deliver.
Having seen the first set of draft plans for the new building I do not feel I could add anything
to these as they seem very comprehensive in accommodating various user groups and
members of the public. If the After School Club was in a secure facility upstairs, this would
be enough of a measure to have the two groups running together.
[In terms of the new CYC building] I think it could only be a positive impact not only on our
project but also the local community.”
Public Survey
Fun Day Survey 30 Responses
Participation
40% of those spoken to say they do not participate in activities often at all, citing wheelchair
access, work and being new to the area as prevalent problems.
Provision Satisfaction
The majority (40%) said they were ‘moderately satisfied’ with what groups and activities
were on offer.
Activities (%)
Fun Days or Family events (16.7%) Walking Groups (13.3%) Exercise Classes (13.3%) Teen
Provision (13.3%) Under 5 Provision (13.3%) Historical Groups (10%) Gardening (10%)
Computer Education (10%)
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16
14
12
10
8
6
4
2
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Family Fun Walking
Days
Groups
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Exercise
Classes
Teen
Under 5 Historical Gardening Computer
Provision Provision Groups
Education
Facilities (%)
40% would like to see a café in the new centre; describing Edinburgh as a café culture and
most agreeing; not a big one just a small one for meeting/ chatting/ drop off point.
26.7% cited information as key in the development of the centre. Whether its flyers or
advertising on the main road or through the schools- people want to know more about what
is on.
16.7% wanted to see the building with modern developments to meet the needs of a varied
range of groups and activities.
13.3% cited Access into and around the building.
13.3% had never been in.
10% cited a crèche.
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40
30
20
10
0
Use of New Centre
83.3% of those asked said they wished to use the new centre.
13.3% of those asked said they did not wish to use the centre, citing locality or having a
compatible centre already, as the reason.
3.3% said they were unsure, they had not stayed in the area long enough to decide.
Impact
In terms of the impact of a restored centre 80% said it would have a positive impact citing
community focus, historical importance and bringing communities together as prominent
reasons.
13.3% said that there would be no impact if it were to return as it was, there needs to be
radical change.
Tesco Survey 46 Responses
Participation
40% of those asked said that they do not participate in activities in Corstorphine often at all.
Reasons included; work commitments, a lack of relevant activities and cost as contributory
factors.
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Those asked if they were satisfied with activities available in Corstorphine said; moderately
so (42.2%) and neither satisfied nor dissatisfied (42.2%)
Activities
Exercise (30.4%) Teen Provision (19.6%) Under 5’s (13%) Elderly Provision (10.9%) Dancing
(10.9) Art and Craft (10.9) Computer Education (6.5%) Football (6.5%)
35
30
25
20
15
10
5
0
Exercise
Teen
Under 5
Elderly
Provision Provision Provision
Dancing
Arts and Computer
Crafts Education
Football
Facilities
A café (34.8%) Restoration (21.7%) Information pertaining to what is available (15.2%)
Modern (8.7%) Access (8.7%) Parking (8.7%) Stage (8.7%) Large Hall (8.7%)
40
35
30
25
20
15
10
5
0
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Use of New Centre
Perhaps (17.4%) Yes (39.1%) If facilities/ activities were appropriate (8.7%) Sometimes
(4.3%) No (15.2%) Probably Not (6.5%) N/A (8.7%)
Impact
In terms of the impact of a restored centre 69.6% said it would have a positive impact citing
the area currently being unsightly, the potential to provide for teenagers and a community
meeting space as prominent reasons.
2.2% said that there would be no impact if it were to return as it was.
28.2% N/A
Local Community Members Survey 12 responses
Participation
41.7% of those asked said that they participate in activities ‘Not often at all’. 25% cited ‘Very
often’ but nobody participated ‘Extremely often’.
58.3% cited ‘Moderately Satisfied’ when asked how satisfied they were with the availability
of current activities in the local area.
Activities
Provision for under 5’s (58.3%) Computer Education (25%) Elderly Provision (16.7%)
70
60
50
40
30
20
10
0
Under 5 Provision Computer Education
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Elderly Provision
Facilities
Rebuild (16.7%) Information (8.3%) Access (8.3%) Café (8.3%)
18
16
14
12
10
8
6
4
2
0
Rebuild
Information
Access
Café
Use of New Centre
Yes 58.3% No 16.7% Maybe 16.7% n/a 8.3%
Impact
66.7% have cited the restoration of the building as having a positive impact on the local
community. Giving the community a focal point, being community based and central were
cited as reasons for this. 33.3% did not answer.
Community Member Questionnaire 8 responses
Participation and Provision Satisfaction
75% of those asked stated that they participated in an activity or group however 62.5% felt
that there were not enough activities on offer.
Activities
Art and Crafts (37.5%) Under 5 provision (25%) Elderly provision (25%)
40
35
30
25
20
15
10
5
0
Art and Craft
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Under 5 Provision
Elderly Provision
Facilities
Café (37.5%) Hireable space (25%) Concert space (25%) Access (12.5%)
40
35
30
25
20
15
10
5
0
Café
Hire Space
Concert Space
Access
Use of new centre
7 Yes (87.5%) 1 No (12.5%)
Online Survey 67 Responses
Participation
Of those asked, 22.4% felt that they participated in activities ‘Extremely often’. However
22.4 also said they didn’t participate often at all and 25.4% felt that they participated in
local activities ‘Slightly often’. Although a large proportion participate extremely often, the
majority of people are either participating only slightly or not at all.
Of those asked, 30.8% cited ‘Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied’ in terms of satisfaction with
local activities on offer. After this, 29.2% cited ‘Moderately satisfied’.
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Activities
Under 5’s provision (17.9%) Teen Provision (17.9%) Exercise (16.4%) Art and Craft (10.4%)
Yoga (10.4%) Book Club (9%) Mother and Toddler (7.5%) Music Tuition (7.5%) Dancing
(7.5%) Badminton (6%) Pilates (6%) Indoor Bowling (6%) Walking Groups (6%)
20
18
16
14
12
10
8
6
4
2
0
Facilities
Information (28.4%) Variation (16.4%) Modern Building (16.4%) Café (10.4%) Rebuild
(10.4%)
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25
20
15
10
5
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Information
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Variation
Modern
Café
Rebuild
Overall Community Response
Activities (%)
30
25
20
15
10
5
0
Under 5's
Teen
Exercise
Provision
Arts and Elderly Walking
Crafts Provision Groups
Mother
and
Toddler
Dancing Computer
Education
Facilities (%)
30
25
20
15
10
5
0
Café
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Information
Modern
Rebuild
Access
Variation
Results
For under 5’s
The current centre’s focus is on provision for new parents and there are limited activities on
offer for those under 5.
“More mother and baby/child groups. We need a decent play centre or area. Right now
these groups are aimed at mums being able to get together, not about play for children
together. We are not a family friendly part of Edinburgh.” Online Survey Respondent
There is potential for baby sensory and activity groups and there is a gap in the focus on
father and baby groups.
For Youths
There is room to develop a youth group as local facilities coordinators and members of the
public have all identified youth provision as key and identified a lack of youth groups
comparatively to other parts of Edinburgh. Within the immediate area, the United Free
Church has identified a desire to develop a youth group and the Secretary of the
Corstorphine Parish Church feels there should be a youth group developed in the area.
The difficulty with the youth age group is identifying the kinds of activities they would be
interested in participating in and also, coordinating the timing so there isn’t a clash with the
other prominent local groups. The CLD worker at Craigmount Education Wing has identified
a need to coordinate what is going on with local facilities to maximise what youths have
access to. While the CLD Worker at CLD Western has identified a need to provide youth
groups within the area.
For 30- 50
This age range was identified by the Rannoch Centre as the hardest to accommodate.
Although this could be attributed to work commitments, the CLD Worker was unsure of any
specific reason. They have identified evening classes/ flexibility out with working hours as
key in the inclusion of activities and groups aimed at this demographic. Local community
survey respondents have also identified Yoga and Pilates in the evening as something they
would be interested in seeing within the new centre.
For over 50’s
Computer classes and less genre specific exercise classes were identified by this age group
as things they would be interested in participating in. There is a limited selection of
computer education aimed at older participants and locality is key when considering an
exercise class for this demographic as access determines participation.
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Facility Coordinators;
Their Own Demand
Centres
With the council based facilities, they are susceptible to janitorial overtime, and have
identified this as a potential point of interest. They receive enquiries for use of their facilities
and can often accommodate them, more so if they are a one off event and less so if they are
(independently run) leisure activities.
Libraries
There is no separate community room within Corstorphine Library and they cannot
accommodate groups if their own is running. The libraries receive enquiries wishing to make
use of their facilities but again more so for one off meetings.
Churches
Within a majority the churches, there is no activities running while the service is on, on a
Sunday morning, and they are cautious of evening hire due to noise complaints. St Thomas’
no longer hires out the church due to mistreatment but the hall can be hired.
The United Free Church itself is limited in members, with only 20, but is fully booked in
terms of independent groups and activities with the exception of a Thursday evening.
There are limitations in the facilities able to run multiple groups at one, expanding the new
centre over two floors would maximise the use. Additional space within the new centre
would allow for groups wishing to hold one- off activities for consecutive days.
Key Themes: Janitorial overtime, holding events on consecutive days, running multiple
groups within the facility, churches are reluctant to hold activities on Sunday morning or
late into the evening.
Advertising
A lack of information pertaining to what is on within the centre was identified by a majority
of community members, facility coordinators and local group members. People either did
not know that it was a community centre, or those who did, were unaware of what was
happening within the centre. With this in mind, how local facilities advertise their groups
and activities has been considered to maximise the awareness of the future building.
Facebook has been identified by the libraries as a prominent way of advertising. They feel it
attracts the teen demographic and their Facebook page is updated constantly with
information and pictures pertaining to what’s on in the library. The continual interaction on
the page engages people and welcomes them to attend with up to date information on
what is running. The Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre should include an up to
date Facebook calendar with their activities as well as updated posts on their page
identifying what they have been doing and encouraging people to come along to the next
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group. The visual aids in conjunction with the accessibility of Facebook will increase interest
and more specifically interest within the teenage demographic.
Additionally they use posters within their facilities to advertise their activities and groups.
Members of the local community have stated that posters within the Corstorphine Hub are
not a sufficient means of advertising; the centre will need to consider posters at multiple
locations.
The churches have identified newsletters as well as word of mouth throughout the church
community as a means of advertising their groups. The churches have a well-established
following and so newsletters can be distributed to a wide number of people. The churches
that have been considered in this research project have very well structured website pages
regarding what is on within their church; the format of the website being easy to navigate
and clear sections of content and contact are provided. The churches considered have
agreed to keep an open line of communication between themselves and the centre
regarding what is available and this could be utilised to maximise the number of people
receiving information.
Other local centres such as the Rannoch Centre, Craigmount Education Wing or the Munro
Community Centre have identified word of mouth as a primary means of communicating
what is on. They primarily achieve this through conversing with schools, school children and
more particularly parents. All council run centres advertise through the ‘Join in Edinburgh’
website which provides information on all council run activities however it is not as easy to
navigate as most church websites.
The Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre has both a website and Facebook page that
can be developed in conjunction with the groups.
Demographic Gaps
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Within St Thomas’ the elderly are not accommodated for at the moment as there are
not the required social staffs to do so
Carrickvale Community has a high proportion of those over 60 with the hardest age
group to reach, being identified as 14- 25
St Ninian’s cover all age groups although there is perhaps a lack of things for the
youth
Drumbrae Library find there may be difficulties with the 18- 21 age range but even
then they have that age group coming in
Corstorphine Bowling Club primarily cater for those 50+ but do not deliberately
exclude any demographic
John the Baptist in the future hopes to consider those in the middle of the age range
and talks are underway regarding the format after the summer
Throughout the churches and centres, there is no one demographic repeatedly excluded.
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Communicating what is on/ Coordinating what is on
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Craigmount for youth: “Young people are the hardest to accommodate for because
of contrasting time slots of various activities, communicating with local facilities to
complement time slots could combat this.”
Corstorphine Library “If there are any activities were we can work together that
would be really good.”
Corstorphine Parish They will be glad to see the return of the CYC and hope they can
help each other in facilitating a wide range of activities.
St Thomas’ “if they were ever overwhelmed with demand they could work together
to accommodate different groups. “
Carrickvale The addition of the CYC would complement the Carrickvale Community
Centre and “we would work together when needed.”
St Ninian’s There is a desire to coordinate and keep each other’s groups and
activities informed in terms of what is available.
Rannoch are willing to continue working together to inform the community on what
is available. “Keep open communication, definitely.”
United Free Church; the minister is happy to establish a line of communication
between the church and the new CYC/ PHC building and would be willing to help out.
“We have been looking in as a church, time to look out at the community.”
John the Baptist They would be happy to keep an open line of communication with
regard to what is on and what is available in the area.
The facilities spoken to are happy to establish a line of communication between themselves
and the CYCC in order to best facilitate the local community.
Within the new centre
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St Thomas’ Church- The church coordinator has identified computing classes as
something they feel there is an opportunity for.
Carrickvale- They did identify a separate kitchen area as something they do not have
as the main catering space is occupied by the café; there could be a demand for
cooking/ catering classes.
Corstorphine Bowling Club the secretary does not feel it will impact their facility but
would like to see smaller group activities available within the CYC.
Youth Focus
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Craigmount: [CYCC] “Historically it was amazing for youth work”
Corstorphine Library: feel there is space to improve activities and facilities for
teenagers in the local area. They have public computer access and access to scanners
and printers and feel that they were utilised more when the CYC was open;
attracting members of the after school club particularly, into the facility
Corstorphine Parish- the secretary feels there is room to develop a mother and
toddler group and youth club for teenagers. They identified a lack of activities for
young teenagers although accepts it’s hard to determine what to provide for them
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Rannoch Centre, with regard to the CYC centre, wishes to see it continue to
accommodate the needs of the local community and “keep the youth side of things.”
United Free Church – are in the process of developing a youth group
John the Baptist, has two popular youth groups with around thirty members in each
Although there are youth groups available within the area and more being developed, there
is the need for seven day provision for this demographic and as long as everyone
coordinated timing and provision, they should be able to, together, accommodate youths
throughout the week.
Neutral meeting ground for school children
A neutral meeting space would benefit young people with regard to pupils from different
schools feeling comfortable when congregating out with school hours.
Establish a Line of Communication
Craigmount Education Wing
Dower House
Corstorphine Library
Corstorphine Parish
St Thomas’ Episcopal Church
Carrickvale Community Centre
United Free Church
Church of St. John the Baptist
Impact
There are three predominant opinions with regard to the impact of the new centre on other
local facilities;
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They do not feel there would be a negative impact as their groups are well
established and people have become accustom to their tutors or times.
They do not feel the new building will impact on their facility unless there were
groups that had clashing time slots.
They will be impacted positively- coordinating and communicating what is on to
address the wants of the local community.
United Free Church- After the fire at the CYC/ PHC there was a surge in the number
of groups using the church’s facilities and the reopening of the CYC/ PHC could either
impact them hugely or not at all; it all depends on what groups stay and what groups
return
Organisation Representatives’
Edinburgh Art Collage is interested in expanding into the Corstorphine community. They
agree that as long as there is a mutual willingness they can integrate with the existing
groups or integrate their own projects within the new centre. They are keen to establish
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something immediately to begin with then develop something for people to look forward to
in the future. They are keen to develop connections throughout the whole of Edinburgh and
the CYC facilitator will contact them to begin this process.
VOCAL have also shown an initial interest but are awaiting the appropriate person to return
before discussing further.
Corstorphine Youth and Community Centre Groups’
Returning
Ladies Lunch Club, Men’s Shed, Karate, Jewellery and Card Making, Drama Skool,
Corstorphine Loan Rangers, Gallery Art Group, the Holiday Club, Table Tennis
Unsure
Chess Club will consider cost, the After School Club as current location suits them
Not Returning
Indoor Bowling, Badminton
Pending
New Parents, The Geographical and Literary Society
Identified Activities:
The Ladies Lunch Club has identified: Garden- Planting, Tea Dance, Singing Classes, Craft
Class, Gentle Exercise, Curling, Bingo and Dominoes as activities they would be interested in
seeing in the new community centre.
Drama Skool; they feel there is a general gap in the CYC to provide baby groups or 50p/£1
drop in activities for community members.
Corstorphine Loan Rangers; would be interested in seeing other activities e.g. Pilates or
yoga, dancing, crafting etc.
Identified Facilities:
The Men’s Shed requires storage for tools and floor space for bowls/curling/archery. They
would like a permanent space of their own.
For Jewellery and Card Making, the facilities required are simply, tables and chairs.
Karate group leader has identified floor space or a hall as primarily all they need.
Gallery Art Group would require good lighting and storage.
Holiday Club has identified storage as a key point as they often have to take all the
equipment back and forth from the centre.
The table tennis have large storage requirements with their tables, they also have to adhere
to lighting and height specifications for local league competition.
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Key Themes: Tools, Floor space, Tables and Chairs, Storage
Local groups’
The main themes identified by local groups were;
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Mixing age ranges in groups
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Increase in smaller groups running in conjunction with each other
The Dementia Project has increasing membership, poor facilities and requires a larger
kitchen. The new building would be centrally located in their catchment area and they do
not feel they could improve on the plans. There is a wish to see the CYC continue to
accommodate the community. If the after school club remains upstairs, this is a sufficient
measure to have both groups running in conjunction with each other from their perspective.
Community Response
Participation in Local Activities
With regard to the responses of the local community when asked: How often do you
participate in activities in Corstorphine? The majority answered ‘Slightly Often’ citing
wheelchair access, being new to the area, work commitments, a lack of relevant activities
and cost as contributory factors.
Activity Provision Satisfaction
When asked ‘Are you satisfied with the groups and activities available in Corstorphine?’ The
majority sighted ‘Neither satisfied nor dissatisfied’ to ‘Moderately Satisfied’.
A lack of information pertaining to what is available within the area is the most commonly
cited reason for a ‘neither satisfied nor dissatisfied’ response. As the results show people do
not participate in activities ‘often at all’ nor are they ‘extremely satisfied’ with what is
available.
More activities being available would increase people’s satisfaction with what is available as
well as increase the amount of activities they participate in.
Identified Activities:
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Under 5’s Provision 26.4%
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Youth Provision 17.8%
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“More things to keep the kids off the streets without costing a small fortune or direct
debit.” Online Survey
“Help teenagers get together and meet up. Show Corstorphine in good light, not hanging
about streets” Tesco Respondent
If there’s things that keep kids busy that’s great. Good asset to the area, if the kids have
somewhere to go it makes our jobs easier, the impact will be felt [restoration of centre]”
Local Police Officer
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Exercise classes 17.8%
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25
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10
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Art and craft classes 10.4%
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Elderly provision 7.4%
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Drama
Ladies
Activities
Social Club
Get Active
Combat
Lonliness
Walking groups 7.4%
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10
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Walking
Walking Group
Local Walks
Historical Local
Walks
Mother and toddler groups 6.7%
In addition to the high demand for provision for the under 5’s, a mother and toddler group
was identified in its own right by 6.7% of the 163 local community members asked.
Dancing classes 6.1%
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Dance
Classes
Dance Studio
Country
Dancing
Line Dancing Belly Dancing
Over 60
Dancing
Computer education 5.5%
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Computer
Education
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Socail Media
Support
Computing for
Elderly
I.T. Support
1 on 1 Tuition
Identified Facilities:
Café 23.9%
“Café- lots of mums in the area with playgroup etc.” Tesco Survey Respondent
Information pertaining to what is on 21.5%
“There is no platform to advertise activities so I don't know what is going on locally” Online
Survey
“Regular and current online presence, cooperation with exchanging information about your
activities with other Corstorphine related pages and websites” Online Survey
“Lack of online advertising. Window promotions not good enough for my family as we`re
not often in the area on foot to see it” Online Survey Respondent
Modern 12.2%
“The new CYC needs to be fit for purpose and fit in with today's modern needs” Online
Survey
“Clean modern facilities within the facade of the old building” Online Survey
“Needs to be a modern multi-purpose space with easy access and a welcoming atmosphere
where people of all ages can try or enjoy long term a large number of activities.” Online
Survey
Rebuild 11.7%
“Rather than the provision of one large hall, a 2 storey more flexible space would improve
the number of groups who can use the facility at the same time” Online Survey Respondent
“Would like to see it restored. Centralised meeting space for local people” Tesco Survey
respondent
“It was always a central point; people of all ages can use it. Especially when it burnt down
people were discussing when they used to use it, my friend was telling me when she used to
use it and she’s a good age now.” Fun Day Respondent
“The building itself was a historical part of the community. It would be nice if it was up
again. Gives a portal for people to meet; a point of reference.” Fun Day Respondent
“It will greatly enhance the community- Community is the word. Carrick Knowe felt it as
well, it joins the communities.” Fun Day Respondent
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Access 6.7%
Access was cited by facility coordinators with regard to accessing the local area, with regard
to the community members, they were interested in good access within the building itself.
Flexible use of the building (variation) 6.1%
“To make it a real community hub with drop in activities, a cafe etc. a place where the
community can meet - should be for all ages’ not just youth” Online Survey
“to have a base easily accessible for all with activities that suit all ages and capabilities (not
just young and very old ).its name should be changed to reflect this ie Corstorphine
centre/hub” Online Survey
“Needs to be a modern multi-purpose space with easy access and a welcoming atmosphere
where people of all ages can try or enjoy long term a large number of activities” Online
Survey Respondent
“Not to be such a warren. Improved toilets, small café and as much as possible for children”
Online Survey Respondent
Impact of new Centre
“It was always a central point; people of all ages can use it. Especially when it burnt down
people were discussing when they used to use it, my friend was telling me when she used to
use it and she’s a good age now.” Fun Day Respondent
“The building itself was a historical part of the community. It would be nice if it was up
again. Gives a portal for people to meet; a point of reference.” Fun Day Respondent
“It will greatly enhance the community- Community is the word. Carrick Knowe felt it as
well, it joins the communities.” Fun Day Respondent
The members of the community have identified the impact as being hugely positive and the
community not only feel they need a community centre but feel they have felt the impact of
not having a local facility at the moment.
Use of centre
Of the 163 community members asked, 75% said that they would use the new building.
Those who said they did not wish to make use of the building cited locality and access to
other local facilities as reasons.
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Deviant Comments
“Youth of Corstorphine should be heavily involved in the brief. Not sharing with dementia
groups and old wrinklies, it should be dynamic and young. Graffiti Courses/ art/ drop in for
youths/ pinballs or whatever the latest computerised version is.” Fun Day Respondent
Youth Provision
As youth provision, specifically for the teen demographic, has been identified by both facility
coordinators and members of the community, further consideration will be given to how
and what to provide for them within the future building.
There is the potentiality for seven day week provision for youths. There could be multiple
youth groups and the CYC has an opportunity to work in conjunction with the pre-existing
groups and develop full time youth provision within the Corstorphine community.
Another question in this field pertains to sharing facilities and whether you can have general
youth work within shared facilities. Current youth groups within facilities not
accommodated solely to this purpose will be considered.
When considering a general youth group versus specific activities aimed at this
demographic, they feel that general youth groups are not for everyone but there is still life
in that. Encouraging specific activities could appeal to a wider range of people. After the age
of 14 there may be less need for a general youth group. Something for older teens could be
a link support to leaving school, employability or training. Although there is provision for
this, there is room for more. They require proper investment, it’s one thing to provide a
group but if the budgeting isn’t there, there is a difficulty.
The CLD Worker has identified a willingness to communicate, or keep an open line of
communication between the two centres, subject to their capacity. They are keen to “work
together when we can.”
In terms of what the CYC should provide, they feel it has to be opening and welcoming to all
groups. It has to be accessible to all to reach as many as possible. Once that has been
established, decide on the specifics off the back of that.
Can you have suitable youth provision within a shared facility? Yes, most groups deliver
projects out of shared centres. It would be great to have purpose built buildings. In terms of
provision for the group within a shared facility, they have had experience with using a notice
board and space to put up art work. Wi-Fi has also been identified as important when
considering provision for youths.
To reach this demographic, they have recommended going to the Pupil Council; each school
has one, with elected representatives or approaching the schools if they are happy to work
together. Facebook is one way of reaching this age group, it doesn’t automatically work it
depends on who is running it. When they previously tried it, it was slow. If you can get
parents informed, through Facebook as well, keeping them informed has success. They,
themselves, use the school bulletin but this depends on the school; Royal High has good
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staff and all the teachers read it. Another way they inform the youth demographic of their
activities, is presenting to the school through assemblies. Target a specific year and present
and interact, interaction helps.
“Good to see it rebuilt, sooner rather than later.”
Can youth groups work in shared areas? “We do it here” They have the youth group and the
lunch club within the centre. They have a shared board with information and each have
storage for their things. “It’s definitely manageable.”
Within this age range, if there is a mess for example, they can revisit the ground rules. They
also have a sense of ownership of the place by decorating with their own handmade items.
If in the future, if the CYC have questionnaires or information they wish to obtain, they can
be implemented through the CLD worker within the Lunch Club and Youth Group they run.
In terms of accessing the school they feel either a guidance teacher or deputy head would
aid in reaching the whole school. A way of doing it may be to pin point one year, say the 1 st
years as they have a lot of years of attending groups ahead of them, and go through the
various years; perhaps through their Personal and Social Education class.
CYCC the After School Club
As they have such a big group they have such a big impact on wherever they are. Can youth
work, work is a shared facility? “It can do, it did work before.” The groups involved within
the CYC really have to work together in order for it to work. The biggest problem or concern
is shared toilets and members of the community using the toilets. That’s the main reason
they feel the space may not work at the moment. In terms of accommodating the group to
give identity to the after school club there is ‘music, defiantly’ and soft furnishings, rugs and
cushions to give a homely feel. Also the use of their own art work as decoration promotes
ownership and creates identity. “If we were doing our job properly we would be interacting
with the community.” For example there are six children who they have funded within
higher education; all the equipment and uniforms. There is no point having money and not
benefiting the local community. Advertising any community event on the notice board is
important, the notice board is important for general communication and information for
and from the after school club. The problem with shared spaces is everything has to be put
away and you can’t leave anything out.
In terms of future communication with youths through the after school club, permission will
be sought from the committee of parents, but they do not see that they would decline. The
leader of the after school club cannot be seen to associate or recommend any groups or
clubs, cannot advertise/ legitimise out with the after school club but there should not be a
problem in determining what activities they would like to see introduced within the local
area.
CYCC the Holiday Club
The leader of the Holiday Club feels the group works quite well within a shared space. They
have a good location (original building) and have access to the grass and main hall. In terms
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of accommodating the kids, they have everything set up ready and try to keep them
occupied and ‘mix things up a bit’. The next time they will be in session is for the October
break and the group leader is happy to keep an open line of communication between
themselves and the CYC with regard to identifying what local youths would like to see within
the new building. This could be achieved through questionnaires or open discussions with
members of the Holiday Club.
Gylemuir Youth Group
Gylemuir Youth Group is well subscribed with 43 children a day. They have identified
Gymnastics, Knitting, Karate and Computing as their primary activities. They work in
conjunction with ‘Active Schools’ which is an initiative aimed at encouraging children and
young people to get active. In terms of gaps within local provisions, the group leader does
not feel that there are any activities missing and there is already “quite a lot” on offer.
On Friday they have a theme day in order to mix up the activities, for example this week is
‘beat the goalie’, in terms of choosing the activity the children themselves vote for what
they would like at the start of term.
In terms of advertising their programme and activities they have text alerts for the parents
and a Facebook page with information.
The Citadel, Leith
Can youth groups work in shared areas? “Absolutely it works”
Citadel shares with other groups, there are mother and toddler groups and their oldest
member is 96.
The secret of sharing is that each group feels the centre is welcoming them.
For kids- he has music ready and flip charts, whereas when the older people are coming in
he has the kettle on for tea. It important that each group can feel it is their space.
Think about lighting and atmosphere! Changing the lighting and the atmosphere has a big
impact, for the younger kids they set a more atmospheric lighting, especially important in
the winter, and for the older people; well-lit with spot lights.
The kids can post on to the Facebook page although it is monitored- sense of resect. They
have the groups deciding on the scheduling and sometimes fundraise themselves to support
the wants. They have up to 66 volunteers per week.
Facebook followers are ages 18- 35 so it’s really the parents that are checking this way.
Discussion
The research, with regard to local facilities, has identified a need to coordinate and
communicate what is on; to best address the needs of the youths and particularly the teen
demographic. They have identified a willingness to communicate with the new centre and
seven day week provision for youths could be achievable with constant coordination and
communication.
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The limitations within this research pertain to the specific wants of the teen demographic.
Although facility coordinators and some community members have identified it as key, they
are unable to give any specific examples of activities or facilities. With this in mind, the CLD
Worker at the Craigmount Education Wing has agreed to open a line of communication with
their own youth groups to determine what they would like to see. This could be achieved by
either the implementation of questionnaires or an open discussion. They have also made
suggestions in terms of reaching out to the pupils of the schools by year group through
either their Personal Development Education class or through a deputy head teacher. The
CLD worker at CLD Western has suggested reaching the Pupil Council or they have had
success putting information in the school bulletin.
Similarly the groups of the CYCC; the after school club and the holiday club have agreed to
implement a form of discussion to ascertain the wants of the youths within their groups.
When considering youths in a shared facility; having their own wall space, information
board or self-made decorations has been identified as a means of promoting ownership and
creating identity within the space. Additional measures can be taken in terms of music and
lighting to create different atmospheres to adhere to the needs of different groups. Having
youth groups within shared spaces has been identified as possible with the right provisions.
The members of the community have primarily identified ‘under 5 provisions’ as the most
important. This contrasts to the opinions of the facility coordinators who have identified the
teenage age group. In terms of provisions for those under 5, community members have
identified a more general play area or meeting space for the children as opposed to specific
activities or leisure activities. Mother and Toddler groups were also identified independently
suggesting the need for both under 5 provision and mother and child support. The CYC
offers Ante Natal support and this group have identified a wish to expand in terms of bigger
classes or more sessions which complements the wants of the local community.
Assets
Elderly provision and new parent provision
Previous demand for centre; parties/wedding/celebrations*
Community demand to see building reconstructed with original façade
Gaps
Information pertaining to what is available
Communicating/ coordinating activities with local facilities
Storage requirements for CYC groups, groups require large amount of storage*
Parking is limited, drop off point facilitated
Youth provision
Opportunities
Modern attitude and interior
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Listing of previous use in Appendix
Listing of Storage requirements in Appendix
Engaging online presence
Under 5 provision, Youth Provision 5+
Further elderly provision
Expand the building to accommodate multiple groups running simultaneously/
consecutively
VOCAL
Edinburgh College of Art
Conclusions
In terms of facilitators spoken to, janitorial overtime and hiring space for consecutive days
have been identified as potential problems for those looking to utilise their centre. They
have also expressed a difficulty in holding multiple groups at once and often cannot
accommodate groups when other activities are being held; it is more common to be able to
accommodate a one off meeting or event than a regular group. With regard to churches,
they have restrictions, in that for various reasons, they do not hold activities while the
service is on and they are also reluctant to have things that run late into the night as the
majority have had problems with noise complaints in the past. In terms of the new CYC
building, if it were to increase in the amount of accessible space they would be able to
accommodate multiple groups at once. There is also the opportunity to hold potential
events on consecutive days if there were additional rooms or halls. Furthering this there is
an opportunity to expand in the evening and on Sunday mornings.
With regard to the advertising of groups and events, facility coordinators were asked their
methods of promotion in order to establish methods that could be utilised by the CYC.
Facebook, word of mouth and newsletters were identified as the most successful means of
communicating events. Twitter and Posters have been identified as having less success. In
terms of the new CYC advertising is important as a majority of both community members
and facility coordinators were unaware of the previous CYC’s provisions, and in some cases,
existence.
No one demographic has been repeatedly excluded from a facility but the facility
coordinators have identified teenagers as the group most in need of provisions. The facilities
are willing to keep an open line of communication with the new CYC and seven day week
provision for this age group could be achievable.
In terms of the impact of the new centre with regard to the other local facilities, there are
three main points; they will not be impacted as they have their own established groups with
followers, they will only be impacted if the groups provided have clashing time slots, the
impact could be very positive if the CYC keeps an open line of communication with regard to
what they are providing. Again keeping an open line of communication with local facilities
will enable all local groups to run in conjunction with each other and potentially
complement each other.
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The United Free Church has been identified independently as they could potentially have a
massive impact after the restoration of the centre. They have taken on the After School Club
and the Holiday Club and as they are such large groups, this could have a large impact on
the church.
Edinburgh College of Art and VOCAL have both highlighted interest in reaching the local
Corstorphine community. ECA are keen to develop something quickly, as well as develop
something more long term and the CYC facilitator will be in contact to initiate this.
The original groups of the CYC have all stated an intention of returning to the new building
with the exception of the Chess Club who will consider cost and the After School Club who
are unsure of technicalities with regard to sharing space. The most commonly cited
requirement is storage. A storage inventory has been supplied within the appendix. The
Table Tennis groups have their table’s, the Holiday Club has identified the requirement to
store sports equipment, the Men’s Shed require secure storage for tools to adhere to safety
measures. Each group has items requiring storage and if the building is to adhere to the
wants of the community with multi-purpose facilities, there needs to be accommodation for
the belonging of the groups or it will not be able to be fully utilised as a shared space.
The group members from throughout the local community have identified a desire to have
groups with different age ranges as they feel it will enhance the ability to learn from each
other; the CYC can take this opportunity to develop groups with a greater variation in age.
The local group members have also identified a desire to have smaller group sizes, with
more groups running at once. Again, if the facility could accommodate space for multiple
groups running simultaneously they will increase what was available while adhering to the
wants of the local community.
With regard to the survey conducted with members of the community, the majority stated
that they only participate in activities ‘slightly often’. Additionally, they were only
‘moderately satisfied’ with the provision of local groups and activities. There is clear space
to increase group provision so that the members of the community are ‘extremely satisfied’
with what is available and thus participation could be increased from ‘slightly’ to ‘very
often’.
With regard to the activities the community members have identified, they wish to see the
CYC provide; under 5’s provision, youth provision, exercise classes, art and crafts, elderly
provision, walking groups, mother and toddler groups, dance classes and computer
education. Although facilities have identified provision for teenagers as key, community
members have identified provision for under 5’s and a need for more mother and toddler
groups has been identified.
The Dementia Project are interested in utilising the new building as their current facility is in
a poor state and the new centre will fall centrally within their catchment area. Some
members of the community have identified dementia provision as important for within the
new centre however other local groups and some members of the community have
identified a concern with having a dementia group based within a youth and community
centre building; feeling that the youths should be considered more and will be restricted
with a dementia group running on the premises.
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Youth provision has been identified as essential and there has been an identified need to
increase provisions locally for this age group. The facilities spoken to, with a youth presence,
have also identified a need to increase provisions for this age group. In terms of going
forward with this research; the CYC can look to this demographic directly to identify exactly
what activities they would like to see. A line of communication has been opened with the
local CLD workers in conjunction with their groups and local schools.
In conclusion, the CYC has an opportunity to expand provisions for all demographics and
providing they maintain an open line of communication with local facilities they can increase
communication and awareness of their activities while coordinating activities to maximise
provision for members of the community. Seven day week provision for youths could be
achieved as the area has been identified as having less youth groups as other parts of
Edinburgh. Furthering this there has been an identified need to expand the building as this
would allow more groups to run simultaneously, groups can better share the centre when
occupying at the same time and the variation of provision can increase. With regard to
funding applications, the report will aid the insight into both current group fulfilment and
future potentialities in terms of provision demand.
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Appendix
Pending Responses
Storage Space Requirements
Previous Use of the Building
Contact in Future
Impact of Restoration
Pending Responses
Facilities
Almond Mains Initiative
Drumbrae Leisure Centre
St Anne’s Church
Gylemuir Community Association
Clermiston St Andrew’s Church
Whinpark Medical Centre
Gyle Park Pavilion
Carrick Knowe Scout Hall
Manager
Marketing Dept.
Church Office
Chairperson
Community Development Officer
Healthcare Team
Recreational Centre
Hall Contact
Organisations
Make a Wish Foundation
Residents Association (East Craigs)
WE Neighbourhood Partnership
Castlerock/ Edinvar HA
Corstorphine Fair
Edinburgh Voluntary Organisations’ Council
LOOPs
Corstorphine Community Council
Friends of Corstorphine Hill
Art Link
Ageing Well
Lothian Autistic Society
The Geographical and Literary Society
New Parents
Local Councillors
Frank Ross
Paul Edie
Robert Aldridge
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make-a-wish.org.uk
yahoo.co.uk
edinburgh.gov.uk
castlerockedinvar.co.uk
ed.ac.uk
evoc.org.uk
evoc.org.uk
corstorphinecc.org.uk
Secretary
artlinkedinburgh.co.uk
edinburghleisure.co.uk
lothianautistic.org
Karen Keil
Ronald Cairns
Could not Coordinate Timing
Ladywell Medical Centre
Douglas Brown Scout Hall, Tenth Scouts
Jeremy Balfour
Health Board
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Healthcare Team
Hall Contact
Councillor
Strategic Programme Manager
Storage Space Requirements
If there are 2 floors then there needs to be storage upstairs and downstairs for chairs/tables
etc. otherwise they would need to be moved up and down so we may need more chairs and
tables than we had before.
150 plastics chairs in piles of 5 120 * 40 * 90 cm
20 red chairs in piles of 3 120 * 40 * 90 cm
20 wooden chairs in piles of 4 110 * 50 * 54 cm
10 Folding tables 180 * 70 * 20 cm each
4 Table Tennis Tables 200 * 130 * 40 cm each
Bowling Mats & Trolley & Bowls 220 * 150 * 70 cm minimum
Men’s Shed – tools, archery equipment, kurling equipment
2 large wooden tables 1m * 1m * 70cm each
Blue tables * 4 56 * 56 * 70 cm each
Bucket Chairs * 8 70 * 70 * 50 cm
Coffee Tables * 2 84 * 85 * 54 cm each
ASC Outdoor Equipment
ASC Craft & Games Equipment
Gallery Art Group – large easels, small easels
Keep Fit – yoga mats
Youth Club – DJ decks, table football, games & craft equipment, cooking equipment, WIIs,
Tuck shop
stock
Masons – drinks & food
Office – files, filing cabinets, laptops (for IT classes)
Misc – games equipment, stock of papers, stationery etc.., stock of fair equipment,
Playgroup – lots of toys, sand trays, changing mats
Lit – dishes, cutlery, audio equipment, projectors, screens, microphones,
Drama – costumes, audio equipment,
Karate – mats, punch mats
Chess Club - secure cupboard for chess sets etc..
Cleaning Equipment
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Previous Use of the Building
Skating Group
Fridays 7.30 – 9.00
weekly Nov – Apr
large hall
Soccerstars
Sundays 10.00 – 1.00
weekly all year
large hall
Drama Skool
Fridays 6.00 – 7.30
weekly term time
large hall
Holiday Club
Mon- Fri 9.00 – 6.00
school holidays
all
Immanuel Foundation Sundays 10.00 – 12.00 weekly all year
small hall
Literary & Geog
Mondays 6.30 -10.00
weekly Oct - Apr
large hall
Table Tennis
Wed & Thurs 7.00 – 10.00 weekly all year
large hall
Mason's
Mon/Thurs7.00 – 10.00 fortnightly all year
small hall/lodge
Badminton
Wed & Thurs 10.00 – 12.00 weekly term time
large hall
Gaelic Playgroup
Mon10.00 – 12.00
weekly term time
small hall
After School Club
Mon – Fri 2.30 – 6.00
weekly term time
all
Chess Club
Mon
7.00 – 10.00
weekly all year
small hall
Gallery Art Group
Tues
10.00 – 1.00
weekly all year
small hall
Parties/Small Hall
17 Children's Parties
Sundays 2.00 – 4.00
small hall
2 meetings
Thursday 10.00 – 12.00
small hall
Parties/events/ceilidhs/Large Hall
Gallery Art Group Exhibition
Mon – Fri
one week in April
Hogmanay Ceilidh
any
7.00 – 12.00
Dec 31st
Ceilidhs * 4
Sat
7.00 – 12.00
Adult parties * 10
Sat
7.00 – 12.00
Shows * 4
Sat
7.00 – 9.00
Mason's
Sat
6 Coffee Mornings, Fairs, Events
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Bi annually
All year
Contact in Future
CYC Lunch Club leader: [email protected]
CYC Men’s Shed: Bill Watson 0131 346 8488
CYC Chess Club: James Crerar [email protected]
Community Members:
Mr and Mrs Ritchie 0131 339 7482 local
[email protected]
Mrs Annika Hannah; [email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
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Impact of Restoration

Good for elderly and you- ‘Smile on face if restored’

Very good, add to the old village feeling- Hope it is soon!

More modern facilities will generate interest

A good place for people to go. Not so sure it’s in the right place- St. John’s road has a car
park- you could take over some shops, the chemist could be an office and vandals are
less likely to target it.

Chance to project selves in new way- more emphasis on youths

Be proud to see it rebuilt and would develop community activities

A sympathetic restoration- late 60’s concrete monstrosities around Clermiston

Positive impact as people want to see it rebuilt

Massive impact as sad to see

Very good, much required. The sooner the better

Help teenagers get together and meet up. Show Corstorphine in good light, not hanging
about streets

Be a lot better. Keep façade and it would help bring the community together

Hopefully get young people involved. 14- 18 years

Could be used by lots of organisations

Positive

Huge impact. If rebuilt- think it would be well used

Positive to be rebuilt

Bring it back- 15 to 20 years and devastated that it is not in use

Anything would improve the area- unsightly

Bring the community back together, provide opportunities

Positive, the ruin spoils the area as it is an eye-soar

Positive Impact- Central Meeting Point

Would like to see it restored. Centralised meeting space for local people

Improve the area- bring it back to life
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
Improve the area

Help the community- give focus and cater for young people

Put it back to what it was

Bring it closer together- socialising for adults and children. Corstorphine needs a focus

Big impact; providing a meeting place

Positive impact

Whole are tidied up- looks terrible at the moment

Encourage more people to use the facilities

Would improve the street

Would provide something- a positive impact. An outlet- the groups have sufferedmoving somewhere else or not doing anything. Wellbeing

Better for the community- all areas need a community centre

Positive impact- definitely

Old building- shabby cheque

Very high impact especially for young people

Focal point for all age activities

Community based

Good central facility

Surely it will be a positive and effective one

It would be great to have it open again

Very beneficial for the area. Would definitely like to see the building rebuilt with
disabled facilities

Quite an impact

Good community

A big impact- to open up and have people in gives Corstorphine character, the old part
of Corstorphine.

It was always a central point; people of all ages can use it. Especially when it burnt down
people were discussing when they used to use it, my friend was telling me when she
used to use it and she’s a good age now.
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
It would just make everyone very happy to see it return.

Huge impact.

Massive, used to use the gym hall, the masonic, there were a lot of things happening.

If it was to return as it was, no impact, there needs to be a radical recasting of what the
community centre is.

Great impact, really important and missing not having it.

Very helpful. [From Ladywell] there isn’t the space for the prams and buggies, space is a
big issue.

Big impact, the young people would come back in.

Give a useful Community Facility, offering facilities for young people.

Hopefully more events for families; bring the community together.

Would have a big impact, it was a bit run down and if it was new, would encourage
people to use it.

Bring vibrancy to the place, bring more people in and give children a focus.

Bring back a central focus, gather the community.

Really good impact; just a really good thing.

The building itself was a historical part of the community. It would be nice if it was up
again. Gives a portal for people to meet; a point of reference.

We have missed it terribly; it was a lovely building, very popular.

Important to have it.

Great resource, great to have focus and activities, community hub/ resource.

A lot of groups; dementia, elderly, youth. After it burnt down, gained publicity- more
popular.

Huge impact, well used before, literally hub of Corstorphine. After School Club venue/ all
sorts; Information Point.

No idea, not been here long.

Things have carried on, things have lost focus and we need a meeting place. It’s been
there such a long time, it’s sad that it’s burnt down.

Well used, central focus. There is the opportunity for bringing together different ages.
Community Focus.
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
Originally it was the mason’s hall. A modernised hall with more advertising, people
would be more like to use it.

Difficult to say. It will greatly enhance the community- Community is the word. Carrick
Knowe felt it as well, it joins the communities.

Really good, keep community together, people use it a lot.

Very beneficial, nice centre brings the community together.

Thought it would be rebuilt by now.
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