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Julia Sas - PhD Thesis - corrected
Bute Park Restoration Project Public Consultation December 2011 The County Council of the City and County of Cardiff. Prepared by Cardiff Research Centre. “Delivering effective research and consultation and first class research and information services” Cardiff Research Centre is part of Cardiff Council’s Research and Community Engagement Unit and delivers key research, information and multimedia services for Cardiff Council and other key organisations in Cardiff and Wales. Core services include: Collection, analysis and interpretation of primary survey data. Analysis and interpretation of a wide range of secondary demographic and socio-economic statistical data including the Census and in-depth economic impact assessments. Specialised studies on a wide range of topics including landuse planning & development, social, economic and demographic subjects. Quantitative and qualitative research and consultation projects. The Cardiff Citizens’ Panel. Focus Group and meeting facilitation. 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For further information please contact Steve Jarman Operational Manager Research & Community Engagement Cardiff Council 029 2087 2602 [email protected] Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 CONTENTS Background 1 Methodology 2 Response 2 Fieldwork 3 Reporting 4 Results 5 Section 1: Park Usage 5 Section 2: Signage 8 Section 3: Services in Bute Park 12 Section 4: Awareness of the Restoration Project 13 Section 5: The Education Centre 16 Section 6: Bute Park Identity 19 Section 7: West Lodge 21 Section 8: Access 23 Section 9: Blackfriars Friary 26 Section 10: The Out of the Woods Festival 29 Section 11: Best and Worst 31 Section 12: Social Media 38 Section 13: About You 40 Appendices Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Bute Park Restoration Project Public Consultation December 2012 Background Bute Park is generally considered as one of the jewels in Cardiff's crown. It is unique and filled with internationally recognised historic, horticultural and environmental features. Cardiff Council is keen to ensure that the experience for park users continues to improve and that the area remains accessible and relevant to all. The Council’s aim is to deliver a national people's heritage park for the Capital City - a flagship for Wales and the UK. To aid this objective Bute Park is currently undergoing a £5.6 million restoration project, supported by a £3.1 million grant from the Heritage Lottery Fund. The Bute Park Restoration Project aims to maximise public access to and enjoyment of Bute Park through restoring and conserving its features of special historical, environmental and horticultural interest, introducing sustainable management and maintenance regimes and extending access to the park’s heritage by developing learning and recreational opportunities for the widest possible audience. Work is expected within the park until 2013/14. To ensure that the ongoing work that is undertaken meets the requirements and priorities of park users, it is essential that the Council continues to hear their views and experiences. To enable the fulfilment of this goal the Customer & Business Knowledge team has worked with officers in the Parks and Sports Service to develop a rolling programme of consultation throughout the restoration period. This report details the information gathered during the most recent period of consultation during winter 2011. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 1 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Methodology Customer & Business Knowledge along with officers in Parks and Sports Service devised a schedule of research including bi-annular public consultation throughout the redevelopment period. The first period of consultation was carried out in November and December 2010 whilst the latest was undertaken during December 2011. This pattern of consultation during both the winter and summer months will be repeated until final reporting in May 2013. The methodology has been designed to include a mixture of face to face interviews with park users and electronic surveys which are distributed via social network sites including Facebook and Twitter. During November and December 2011 the questionnaire was deployed via the following means: • 100 face to face interviews completed with visitors to Bute Park • Electronic questionnaires distributed to 985 members of the Cardiff Citizens Panel (1st Dec) • Link to the questionnaire posted on www.cardiff.gov.uk • Tweeted via the Cardiff Council twitter feed to its approximate 7400 followers • Distributed via Your Inbox to approximately 6000 Council staff • Distributed via email to Castle Key holders • Distributed by colleagues in Transport Services to a variety of organisations involved in the city’s travel plan and bicycle user groups • Information and link sent to Park-Run for distribution to its members Response In addition to the 100 interviews completed face to face a total of 547 questionnaires were also completed online making a total of 647 responses. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 2 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 In terms of statistical significance this number achieves a 95% confidence level with a confidence interval of +/- 3.85%1. The margin of error is slightly higher when isolating just one group with the data sets. When looking solely at the results from online surveys a 95% confidence level is achieved with an interval of +/-4.19. Fieldwork The fieldwork team was lead by dedicated research officers from within the Cardiff Research Centre. All interviewers were provided with a formal briefing/training session prior to the commencement of any fieldwork. Topics covered in this session included interviewer health & safety as well as background information relating to Bute Park and the Restoration Project. Specific issues covered included: • • • • • • • • • • The new Education Centre Bute Park & Arboretum Logo History of Blackfriars Friary Bute Park Friends Group Access to the park The current situation regarding the toilet facilities at the Summerhouse Kiosk Details of the plans for the development of West Lodge Information on the Out of the Woods Festival Information regarding further involvement/joining the friends group Details on how the public can share their photographs of Bute Park In addition to the formal briefing, fieldworkers were also provided with crib sheets for reference that could be used in the field (see Appendix 1). Face to face interviews were collected between the hours of 9am and 5pm and covered both weekdays and weekends. In instances where severe rain/poor weather conditions were encountered the fieldwork was rescheduled although many of the interviews were completed during showers and cold temperatures. A copy of the questionnaire is included in Appendix 2. 1 If, for example, you had a confidence interval (also called margin of error) of 4 and 47% percent of the sample picks an answer you can be "sure" that if you had asked the same question of the entire relevant population between 43% (47-4) and 51% (47+4) would also have picked that answer. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 3 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Reporting Within some sections of the questionnaire respondents were asked to rate a series of statements that relate to Bute Park on a scale of one to five with one being “poor” and five being “excellent”. For the purpose of analysis and reporting these ratings have been adapted to produce a score which provides an indication to the level of success that is prevalent in relation to each service function. The scoring classification that is used within this report is shown below: Scale Classification 4.25 – 5.00 This is an excellent score – retain status quo 3.75 – 4.24 This is a very good score – with some limited room for further improvement 3.25 – 3.74 This is a good score – but a clear plan for improvement is needed 3.00 – 3.24 This is a fair score – there is considerable room for improvement 2.75 – 2.99 This is a poor score – a high degree of dissatisfaction exists 1.00 – 2.74 This is a very poor score – urgent attention is needed In addition a traffic light system has been adopted to highlight areas of good practice and indicate where future work needs to be focused. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 4 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Results Section 1: Park Usage 1.1 On average how frequently do you use Bute Park? A total of 643 responses were received equating to a response rate of 99.4%. Approximately a third (34.0%) of respondents reported visiting Bute Park once a week or more. Amongst those interviews completed face to face this proportion rose to 41.4%. On average how frequently do you use Bute Park? (Base: 643) 30 24.7 25 21.3 20.5 Percentage 20 16.3 15 10.1 10 5 3.1 2.6 1.2 0 More than once a day Daily More than once a day Daily More than once a week More than once a month Less than once a month Very occasionally Never First time visitor Total More than once More than once Less than once a w eek a month a month All Respondents No. % 2.6 17 10.1 65 21.3 137 24.7 159 16.3 105 20.5 132 3.1 20 1.2 8 643 100.0 Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge Very occasionally Never Online No. 14 48 116 139 94 114 19 NA 544 % 2.6 8.8 21.3 25.6 17.3 21.0 3.5 NA 100.0 First time visitor (F2F only) Face to Face No. % 3.0 3 17.2 17 21.2 21 20.2 20 11.1 11 18.2 18 1.0 1 8.1 8 99 100.0 5 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 1.2 How do you usually visit Bute Park? Almost half (48.2%) of all respondents reported to visit Bute Park alone, whilst 44.8% visited with their partner and 29.4% with friends. How do you usually visit Bute Park? (Base: 647) Alone Comment [JCS1]: Section 1 – It is notable that adults accompanied by children (families) are an under represented group in the park. It will be interesting to see how this increases in summer 2012, and is something we hope to see increase as a result of the Education Centre, introduction of natural play opportunities and additional recreational opportunities, e.g. trails. 48.2 With partner 44.8 With friends 29.4 With children aged 5-10 years 9.1 8.5 With children under 5 years 7.0 With children aged over 10 years With elderly friends or relatives 4.9 Other 5.1 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 Percentage Alone With partner With friends With children aged 5-10 yrs With children under 5 yrs With children aged over 10 yrs Other With elderly friends or relatives All Respondents No. % 48.2 312 44.8 290 29.4 190 9.1 59 8.5 55 7.0 45 5.1 33 4.9 32 Online No. 264 260 170 55 45 43 29 29 % 48.3 47.5 31.1 10.1 8.2 7.9 5.3 5.3 Face to Face No. % 48.0 48 30.0 30 20.0 20 4.0 4 10.0 10 2.0 2 4.0 4 3.0 3 1.3 What are your reasons for visiting Bute Park? The most frequent reason given by respondents for visiting Bute Park was for walking (61.8%) followed by to sit and relax (38.9%) and exercise and sport (36.6%). Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 6 Comment [JCS2]: The park is clearly a valued natural space in the heart of the city, where people come to enjoy various outdoor pursuits and it is essential these primary uses are protected for park users. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 What are your reasons for visiting Bute Park? (Base: 647) 61.8 Walking 38.9 Sit and relax 36.6 Exercise/sport 30.9 Short cut Cycling 30.1 26.4 Picnic/lunch break Horticulture/arboriculture interest 17.8 15.1 Dog w alking Photography 14.2 Nature/bird w atching 13.9 13.1 Meeting place Children's play 13.0 Fun run/marathon 12.7 Concert/event 12.4 10.2 Firew ork display Formal team sports i.e. football/rugby/cricket 2.9 1.1 Educational visit Other 4.9 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 Percentage Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 7 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 2: Signage 2.1 Visitors to Bute Park use the paths for a variety of different things i.e. cycling, dog walking, walking, jogging etc. How respectful do you feel visitors are of one another? A total of 618 responses were received equating to a response rate of 95.5%. A quarter (24.9%) of all respondents to the consultation considered the parks users to be ‘very respectful’ of one another. Amongst those respondents interviewed face to face this proportion rose to 49.5%. How respectful do you feel visitors are of one another? All Respondents (Base: 618) 24.9 Online (Base: 523) 67.8 20.5 71.3 Face to Face (Base: 95) 49.5 0% 7.0 20% Very respectful 7.8 48.4 40% Mostly respectful 60% Somew hat disrespectful 2.1 80% 100% Very disrespectful A total of 154 respondents provided additional comments regarding respect amongst park users. A selection of their comments is provided below: Topic No. Disrespectful behaviour from cyclists 56 Disrespectful behaviour from dog owners 32 Comments • Cyclists should be encouraged to warn pedestrians of their approach from behind by use of their bell. • Cyclists aren't always respectful to walkers - they seem to be under the assumption the pathways are there for their use only and they should have right of way • Some cyclists speed through the park without care and attention of others • Bicycle bells, and use of same should be compulsory!! • Cyclists are least respectful, they seem to think they own the paths • Speedy cyclists often whizz by people without ringing their bells as a warning of approach. • Dog walkers do not keep their dogs under control, and dogs are a hazard to other users. • Dogs can sometimes cause a nuisance • Dogs are often off their leads when signs are up asking them to remain leashed. This is mainly prevalent by the Summerhouse cafe and can be frustrating. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 8 Comment [JCS3]: Notable that cyclists have been singled out as the most disrespectful users. Project team, Friends Group and cycling representatives will consider how this can be addressed. Comment [JCS4]: Anticipated a code of conduct will also address dog control. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 No problems encountered 22 Need for dedicated cycle paths 16 Introduction of notices/signs 10 Vehicles 8 Litter 6 Keep left 6 Miscellaneous 24 • Dog walkers constantly let their dogs off leads and these run at children and adults walking /cycling through the park • Owners don't clean up their dog mess, has happened on a few occasions. • We have never encountered any problems with other visitors • I have neither had, nor seen any problems between users. • Haven't noticed anyone being disrespectful • Generally there is a good atmosphere in the area. • Dedicated cycling paths would be helpful • Splitting the path into cyclists and pedestrians might be helpful. • Bad mannered and ignorant cyclists are a risk to pedestrians and the 2 need to be separated • Maybe paint a line/figures on the path to indicate which side walker and cyclists should be on? • Some discreet signs to remind users to show due consideration would be helpful • As the paths are shared and well used the council should mark the routes as 'keep left' and 'slow'. • I have not seen any specific signs stating that cycling is allowed/not allowed in the park. • There are way too many vehicles using the paths - driving too fast and hogging the paths • Pedestrians, cyclists and joggers are mostly fine. However, the trucks vans and private cars that drive along the paths at high speed are entirely disrespectful - even those who belong to the council. • There are so many more motor vehicles now than at any time. They NEVER keep to 5mph or even 10mph. I have constantly to leap out of the way of motor vehicles. • I feel more people need to be more respectful about disposing of their personal rubbish. • Notices could be positioned at the entrances reminding people to respect the environment and to take litter home with them • 'Walk, run or cycle ON THE LEFT' signs might help • Walkers do not stick to the correct side of the path. • The students on Wednesday afternoons act like they own the place only moving out of the way when forced to, usually I have to leave the path and end up on the muddy verge. • Have experienced verbal abuse from "yobs" on more occasions than I can remember, particularly in summertime. 2.2 The picture below shows an advisory sign which is being considered for the park. How well do you think the sign conveys the message of mutual respect and personal responsibility? A total of 632 responses were received equating to a response rate of 97.7%. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 9 Comment [JCS5]: Pleasing to see. Comment [JCS6]: NOTE - An alternative cycle route will be introduced behind the herbaceous boarder. Comment [JCS7]: NOTE not a large spontaneous call for signage here. Comment [JCS8]: Pleasingly low. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Four in every five respondents (80.1%) felt that the sign conveys the message of mutual respect and personal responsibility either ‘very’ or ‘quite well’. Amongst those respondents that were interviewed face to face the proportion considering the sign to convey its message ‘very well’ rose to 43.9%. How well do you think the sign conveys the message of mutual respect and personal responsibility? All Respondents (Base: 632) 26.1 Online (Base: 534) 54.0 22.8 Face to Face (Base: 98) 13.1 55.2 14.2 43.9 0% 10% 20% 7.7 46.9 30% Very w ell 40% 50% Quite w ell 6.8 60% Not w ell 70% 7.1 2.0 80% 90% 100% Not w ell at all 2.3 Would you like to see this sign installed sensitively (i.e. with consideration to the landscape) along certain well-used routes? A total of 628 responses were received equating to a response rate of 97.1%. Approximately three out of five respondents (61.0%) were keen to the sign installed sensitively on certain well used routes. Amongst those respondents Comment [JCS9]: Most significant support for signs was face to face, which is interesting. interviewed face to face this proportion rose to 70.4%. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 10 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Would you like to see this sign installed sensitively (i.e. with consideration to the landscape) along certain well-used routes? All Respondents (Base: 628) 61.0 Online (Base: 530) 26.4 59.2 Face to Face (Base: 98) 29.6 70.4 0% 10% 20% 30% 12.6 11.1 9.2 40% Yes 50% No 60% 70% 20.4 80% 90% 100% Don't know 2.4 Would you like to see this sign rolled out across parks in the city? A total of 624 responses were received equating to a response rate of 96.4%. Approximately three out of five respondents (57.7%) were in favour of the signage being rolled out across parks in the city. Amongst those respondents Comment [JCS10]: Majority support if this was felt appropriate. Second stage consultation with Friends. Should we install these signs? Where exactly? interviewed face to face this proportion rose to 68.4%. Would you like to see this sign rolled out across parks in the city? 57.7 All Respondents (Base: 624) Online (Base: 526) 55.7 Face to Face (Base: 98) 68.4 0% 20% 27.4 14.9 30.8 13.5 9.2 40% Yes Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 60% No 22.4 80% 100% Don't know 11 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 3: Services in Bute Park 3.1 On a rating scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being 'poor' and 5 being 'excellent' how would you rate the provision of the following services in Bute Park? As in earlier consultations grounds maintenance, formal floral displays and the work of the park rangers each received the highest ratings from respondents. Similarly lighting and toilet facilities with the park again received the lowest ratings from respondents. Fifteen of the twenty-one services within the park which respondents were asked to rate were shown to have improved in comparison to the winter 2010 results. The largest increase was found in relation to the labelling of the arboretum which increased its overall score by 0.17. Grounds maintenance Formal floral display Work of the park rangers Accessibility for prams/wheelchairs Condition of paths Provision of special events Transport links Provision of seating Provision of refreshments Personal safety Sign posting On site supervision and safety Provision of litter bins Visitor information Provision for children Labelling of the arboretum Provision for youth Publicity and promotion Car parking Lighting Toilet facilities Winter 2010 4.09 4.17 4.00 3.90 3.83 3.81 3.81 4.10 3.47 3.40 3.69 3.33 3.42 3.30 3.28 3.02 3.18 2.97 2.88 2.88 2.85 Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge Summer 2011 4.26 4.23 4.10 4.04 4.03 3.89 3.90 3.60 3.51 3.63 3.68 3.54 3.27 3.36 3.38 3.17 3.25 2.98 3.07 2.92 2.32 Winter 2011 4.23 4.23 4.16 4.00 3.91 3.90 3.73 3.64 3.54 3.49 3.46 3.45 3.43 3.40 3.31 3.19 3.11 3.04 2.88 2.84 2.56 +/- Winter 2010/2011 +0.14 +0.06 +0.16 +0.10 +0.08 +0.09 -0.08 -0.46 +0.07 +0.09 -0.23 +0.12 +0.01 +0.10 +0.03 +0.17 +0.07 +0.07 -0.04 -0.29 12 Comment [JCS11]: Seek to improve awareness, transport links are good. Comment [JCS12]: Should drill down and find out where people would like more seating. Comment [JCS13]: NOTE Plans for improvement at end of capital scheme. Comment [JCS14]: Survey undertaken before opening of 3 additional public toilets at West Lodge. Hopeful this may improve summer 2012. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 4: Awareness of the Restoration Project 4.1 Bute Park is currently undergoing a £5.6 million restoration project, supported by a £3.1 million grant from the Heritage Lottery Fund. This is to restore some important historic features within the park as well as providing some new facilities. Are you aware of this project? Comment [JCS15]: Desirable to further raise awareness of project. Will ask CCC Comms Team for support with this A total of 644 responses were received equating to a response rate of 99.5%. Approximately two fifths (41.5%) of all respondents reported that they were aware of the Bute Park restoration project. This demonstrates a slight increase on the figures collected during the summer 2011 consultation period (36.9%). Are you aware of the restoration project? All Respondents (Base: 644) 41.5 Online (Base: 545) 42.2 53.1 53.4 37.4 Face to Face (Base: 99) 0% 10% 20% 5.4 4.4 51.5 30% 40% Yes 50% No 60% 11.1 70% 80% 90% 100% Don't know 4.2 Do you feel that the park has changed in appearance over the past twelve months? A total of 645 responses were received equating to a response rate of 99.7%. Less than one in ten of all respondents (7.9%) considered the appearance of Comment [JCS16]: Interesting result. We do not aim to introduce radical changes to the park’s overall experience – that would be inappropriate. Pleasing that those who do think it has changed feel in the main this has been for the better. Quite high don’t knows. Consider re-wording question next time to gain more valuable insight into perceived changes. Bute Park to have declined over the past twelve months. Amongst those respondents interviewed face to face in the park this figure fell to just one in one hundred. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 13 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Do you feel that the park has changed in appearance over the past twelve months? All Respondents (Base: 645) 44.5 25.3 Online (Base: 545) 43.7 26.2 Face to Face (Base: 100) 49.0 0% 20% Yes, it has improved 7.9 9.2 20.0 40% No, it has stayed the same Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 22.3 60% 20.9 1.0 30.0 80% Yes, it has declined 100% Don't know 14 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 A total of 220 respondents provided comments regarding how they felt that the park has improved over the last twelve months, a selection of these comments are provided below: Improved Refreshment facilities Floral provision/grounds maintenance & improvement No. 116 50 Upgraded paths Educational & recreational opportunities e.g. trails and activities 30 Signs/benches/bins 22 Improved access 18 New bridge specifically 12 Litter Toilet facilities 12 7 • The summerhouse and education centre cafe and toilets are an asset Animal Wall Arboretum labelling Opening times Misc 42 Comments • New cafe, opening up new parts means now proud to walk through it with visitors and show it off. • I love that there are now two refreshment areas, and the general upkeep of the park is a lot better. It's a lovely park to visit in the Capital city. • The new cafe areas are excellent and a very welcome addition to the park • The provision of a refreshment/food unit near the bridge. It's lovely to be able to enjoy the beautiful flowers whilst having a nice cup of coffee • The summerhouse cafe makes the park feel more vibrant and lively. • The new cafe area is superb, a lovely place to sit and have a coffee • The standard of the flower beds and the general upkeep of the park has greatly improved and the new area that has been upgraded nearer to the castle is good. • The floral displays are ALWAYS amazing and I am so grateful to live near such a beautiful park. • it's always improving here, the flowers get better every year • Some of the paths seem to have been improved • Paths are nicer and the park is more accessible, however it's important that they look 'natural' instead of like roads • The paths are in better condition, and access to walkers has improved • Better paths resulting in an improved view overall • I really like the education centre and the metal bug rubbings that kids can do around the park • The facilities such as the cafe now established and visitor centre/education centre being completed • Some extra signs and labelling when walking around the park • Signage has improved • Seems to be more litter bins and is busier over the summer period • There are more places to sit, can now spend longer in here • The access from the main road has improved as well as the number of new areas for seating have increased • Better access from North Road, better landscaping features. • The access from Sophia Gardens into Bute Park is better and also the new bridge into car park at North Road • I was against the new vehicle access to the park but it seems to be being used sensitively, and I've seen other parks in major conurbations with similar access that doesn't spoil people's enjoyment • the new bridge gaining access into the park from north rd has improved the appearance • It is an important amenity for the people of Cardiff and all the work (including the road bridge) have help enhance the park. • There appears to be less rubbish clinging to bushes overhanging the river. • Better kept, less litter, more people respecting the park and using it appropriately. • General appearance and care - seems altogether a cleaner (litter free) and more cared for environment • The Animal Wall looks much better than it did 6 • The repair to the animal wall. 3 • Trees are now labelled 3 20 • Later opening hours for closing gates mean I can walk through the park when working in civic centre • The later opening for commuting cyclists/walkers is also an improvement. • More emphasis on the natural environment • New things are being built which are not taking anything away from the park • I love Bute Park at the moment. It's particularly fantastic for walking my dogs and I love the transport links (water) to the Bay Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 15 Comment [JCS17]: pleasing to see so many people taking the time to share their opinions on improvements. Many are a direct result of the HLF project but also credit is given to the continued hard work and increasing standards of the various grounds maintenance teams. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 In comparison just 44 respondents detailed ways in which they considered the park to have declined in the last twelve months. Declined No. Comments New bridge 19 Increased paths/roadway 14 Traffic 8 Events 6 Commercialisation Horticulture/Grounds maintenance 6 Litter Sports pitches Anti social behaviour Misc • Vehicle access bridge from North Rd has prejudiced safety and spoilt the appearance of this part of the park. Despite many objections this blight on our best park was allowed to go ahead. • The new bridge onto North Road and associated roads in the park has a detrimental impact on the look and safety of that area of the park. • The removal of trees and the new bridge onto North Road has opened up what was once a lovely quiet secluded section of the park and introduced the noise and dust from the heavy traffic on the road. • The road bridge from North Road into Bute Park from North Road was unnecessary and opened up the park to both noise pollution, and articulated trucks driving along the paths. • The new access bridge is an eyesore and the widening of the paths has destroyed the tranquillity of the park. Trucks/cars should not have access to the park. The park is for the citizens of Cardiff. • The building of roadways throughout the park has had a negative effect on the park and I can only see use of these roadways increasing as time goes on • Not sure I like the perceived increase in tarmacing of paths. • The building of a road through the park onto North Road has disturbed the tranquillity of the park. • Trucks/cars should not have access to the park. The park is for the citizens of Cardiff. • Too much building work and cars (e.g., builders) driving at fast speed (around bends they cannot oversee!) • Too many events are being held and take up space that could have been used by citizens without having to pay for it. • Big concerts do not need to be held in the park. • Over the 30 years that I have been using the park it has become a place for commercial opportunism rather than a place of tranquillity in the centre of a city. • The park seems to be becoming very developed and commercialised. • Herbaceous border deteriorating each of last 2 years 4 • less maintenance of flower beds • Litter caused by the very people who use the park and Ice cream vans should be made to provide there own bins at the point of sale and not leave the council to deal with litter retrospectively. 3 1 • Football pitches are a disgrace 1 • Dog mess and alcoholics frequenting the park and abusing passers by. 2 • River seems to be dirtier. • Whilst the Royal Welsh College of Music and Drama has been done well and the bridge is attractive, it has taken away some of the park's general area. I know it is only a small amount but the danger of doing this is that slowly by slowly the park's area diminishes significantly Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 16 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 5: The Education Centre The 21st of October saw the official launch of the new education centre in Bute Park. The centre contains classroom space and is currently available for hire and use by appointment (by school groups for example) on weekdays. In time it is hoped the centre can be opened for more informal “drop in” use and opening hours extended, however, the on site catering outlet and toilet facilities are available during park opening hours right throughout the year. 5.1 Are you aware of the new building and have you visited yet? A total of 636 responses were received in relation to awareness about the new building equating to a response rate of 98.3%. A total of 633 responses were received regarding visits made to the new building equating to a response rate of 97.8%. Less than half (44.2%) of all respondents reported that they were aware of the new education centre. Amongst those respondents interviewed face to face Comment [JCS18]: Not unexpected given short time before survey. Also signage still to go up. Will be hoping for an increase next time, though good results at this stage. in the park the proportion that were aware of the new building was 50.0%. Overall, just 15.0% of respondents reported that they had as yet visited the new building. Of those that were aware of the building approximately a third (32.6%) had already visited. The 21st of October saw the official launch on the new education centre in Bute Park... Are you aware of the new building? (Base: 636) 44.2 Have you visited the site yet? (Base: 633) 55.8 15.0 0% 10% 85.0 20% 30% 40% 50% Yes Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% No 17 Comment [JCS19]: Not unexpected given not open to public at time of survey. Will hope for increase next time and now open for public drop in on weekends. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 5.2 If you have visited, on a rating scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being 'poor' and 5 being 'excellent' how would you rate the education in terms of the following? Comment [JCS20]: Very pleasing that these all fall within the upper end of the “very good” score band – only some limited room for further improvement. The visitor centre was rated highly by those that had already visited in all areas. Most favourable scored however were the quality of the building and the café facilities. Responses Quality of the building Cafe facilities Public toilets Appropriateness of the facility 86 81 79 85 Score 4.23 4.16 4.14 4.07 A total of 118 respondents made additional comments regarding the education centre although eighteen of these simply referred to the fact that as yet they had not had the opportunity to make a visit. Most of the remaining comments were favourable however some questions were raised over how well the building had been advertised and how it will be used in the future. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 18 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 A selection of the comments made are provided below: Improved No. Good idea 29 Advertising/publicity 25 Use of the centre 21 Against the development 13 Look good 6 Door 4 Miscellaneous 12 Comments • A really super addition to Bute Park • It looks to be a fantastic facility and I hope it will be maintained as well as the rest of the park. • I think it is a really fantastic investment and I'm pleased the council have the interests of the community at heart. • Brilliant idea to introduce this • There is nothing to say that the education centre is available to the general public. Could you put up a sign when the centre is available to be visited please? • Where is it?! Such a shame we don't know about it. • Has it been publicised if so I haven't seen it • It’s not brilliantly signposted and there is little information about informal activities taking place there such as drop in sessions etc. Not much information about where it is or what it is hoping to achieve • Not aware of it - need more publicity • Could it be used for conferences and things like that? I would go to day classes there if they were offered • Have a quiet room there for people's meditation and prayer purposes • Could be used for children’s parties etc as fundraising • I would like to see evening horticultural or tree surgery courses taking place • I teach secondary students with learning difficulties, are there education programmes appropriate for them? • I would prefer to see money spent on the gardens and paths around the gardens than a new concrete building centre • It should not have been built in the park. It is another addition that slowly diminishes the quality of Bute Park • I feel very unhappy about building taking place on our precious green spaces. Surely being outside would be the education here. Children know what a classroom looks like. • Looks good and fits in well with the surroundings • Nice building, nice seating and cafe area • I love the entrance door and outside seating area. • Fantastic door handle! Please publish where it came from / who made it! • It shut just as we arrived - before 4pm on the last Sunday in November. And the staff seemed keen to get away • No urinal in men’s toilets, makes toilets busier • It would be nice to see it open a little more often • I used the cafe and although there is a nice menu the service was pretty average and it was disappointing to see so many tables with dirty crockery staying there for quite a long time after people had gone. Not a particularly appetising sight when having lunch. • Make dogs go on a lead on the shared cycle paths • There should be an undercover area for the cafe, including for the dog walkers who aren't allowed inside. More information on flora and fauna to be found in park, as well as the historical aspect. The "education" should permeate inside and outside the Centre for all to be able to see. • What consideration has been made for people who's main spoken language is not English • I hope that you will not allow vehicles to enter the park for UNNECESSARY access. Visitors can walk from the car park easily • Put more lighting • It is important that access to and from the centre is available during normal business times i.e. in winter it is not good that centre has to close at dusk • Will be interested to visit. • This park is well maintained and really enjoyed. Only thing I'd like more help with is parking. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 19 Comment [JCS21]: Agreed need better publicity sign posting. Plans are in progress to address this Comment [JCS22]: . All this feedback will be forwarded to the Education Officer to consider Comment [JCS23]: Interesting . Our challenge is to demonstrate value of the asset. Comment [JCS24]: NOTE – interpretation sign will be installed April 2012. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 6: Bute Park Identity A new logo has recently been developed for Bute Park & Arboretum. The logo (shown below) uses the leaf of the ancient gingko tree. These trees form an avenue up Castle Mews at the rear of the castle; a unique feature of the park. The shape of the gingko tree is used to represent Bute Park as the “green heart” of Cardiff and the stylised castle and castle typography used to reinforce the importance of the relationship between the two sites. 6.1 Have you seen this logo before? A total of 643 responses were received equating to a response rate of 99.4%. Just 12.9% of respondents reported that they had already seen the new logo. Have you seen this logo before? All Respondents (Base: 643) 12.9 4.8 82.3 Online (Base: 543) 12.7 4.6 82.7 Face to Face (Base: 100) 14.0 0% 10% 6.0 20% 80.0 30% 40% Yes Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 50% 60% Don't know 70% 80% 90% 100% No 20 Comment [JCS25]: Survey was undertaken before roll out of the brand so unsurprising to find low brand awareness. Will hope to see significant improvement at time of next survey and beyond. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 A total of 250 respondents provided additional comments relating to the logo, 173 (69.2%) of which demonstrated support for the design, a selection of the comments made included: Improved No. Comments • The logo is lovely! • It's good, traditional and well thought out. • I recognised the leaf before reading the statement above it. Thus for other gardeners at least, I think it is a great logo. I also really like the simplicity and the green and white is absolutely right. • I like it. I think it is stylish and not over designed. • I like it. I think it will need explaining but once you understand what it represents I think it is very good. • It is simple and clear to read. Green keeps the feel of the countryside and trees. Like it. • I think it is simple but strong, it is not fussy at all • It works well in combining the castle and the outdoor area • I like it - I recognise the Gingko leaf and I love the Gingko trees in Bute Park This I can say I do approve! Like the logo 173 • It looks effective and says quickly what it is about • Looks like a clover or a symbol for Ireland • Might be better to have a more recognisable leaf shape or even a tree shape you don't know Cardiff Bute Park could be anywhere in Wales • Without the description above it would be hard to understand what the logo is trying to convey • It is not properly bilingual. Parc Bute Park is fine but there is no translation of arboretum Feel it could be • This logo doesn't relate to Cardiff in any way improved 51 • It's quite boring • Trees matter. Logos don't. How much did that logo cost to "develop"? get a grip. • Is Gingko a native tree? • It's quite nice but I hope it did not cost a lot of money to design and use, given the difficulties that Cardiff council faces at the moment • It's Ironic you came up with this when all you want to do is tarmac over the Parkland and Trees! • Too much money is spent on logos and designs. It is more important that the park is kept clean and maintained Miscellaneous 34 • It is good - but I wouldn't want to see loads of signs all over the park NB. Multiple responses mean that the totals do not equal 100% Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 21 Comment [JCS26]: Pleasing to see high support of brand design. Logo was developed inhouse at no additional cost to the project. Can evidence that our objective for the Logo has been met. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 7: West Lodge The Restoration Project also includes plans for the redevelopment of the West Lodge building at the entrance to Bute Park. Under plans the building will be transformed into a traditional style tea room and gift shop to be used by visitors to the park. 7.1 Do you approve of the proposals? A total of 574 responses were received in relation to the gift shop equating to a response rate of 88.7%. A total of 583 responses were received regarding proposals for a tea room equating to a response rate of 90.1%. Comment [JCS27]: Consistent , excellent approval ratings for both these new facilities – very pleasing. Nine tenths (91.3%) of respondents were in favour of the proposals for a gift shop at West Lodge whilst an even higher proportion (95.4%) approved of plans for a tea room on the site. Do you approve of the proposals? Gift shop (Base: 574) 91.3 Tea room (Base: 583) 8.7 95.4 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% I approve of these plans 50% 4.6 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% I do not approve of these plans These figures mirror the results collected during summer 2011 when 92.4% of respondents expressed their approval for the introduction of tea rooms and 84.4% for a gift shop at the West Lodge. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 22 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 7.2 Would you use these facilities? A total of 342 responses were received in relation to the gift shop equating to a response rate of 52.9%. A total of 352 responses were received regarding proposals for a tea room equating to a response rate of 54.4%. Comment [JCS28]: Useful indications of footfall – gift shop needs to capitalise on anticipated popularity of tearoom – retail lines need to compliment the tearoom audience. More than half (55.8%) of respondents reported that they would use a gift shop based at the West Lodge whilst 81.3% reported that they would make use of a tea room at the same location. Would you use this facility? Gift shop (Base: 342) 55.8 Tea room (Base: 352) 44.2 81.3 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% I would use this facility 18.8 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% I would not use this facility These figures mirror the results collected during summer 2011 when 77.8% of respondents reported that they would use a tea room facility based at the West Lodge and similarly 51.6% reported that they would use a gift shop based at the same location/ Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 23 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 8: Access 8.1 The east-west foot and cycle path from the Royal Welsh Collage of Music and Drama to the Millennium Foot Bridge is currently open until 7pm as part of a pilot until 31st Dec. A total of 631 responses were received in relation to awareness of the pilot equating to a response rate of 97.5%. A total of 618 responses were received by respondents regarding approval of the pilot equating to a response rate of 95.5%. Approximately a third (34.2%) of respondents reported that they were aware Comment [JCS29]: High support for pilot. More work to do on awareness raising. Note a revised comms plan has been put in place. of the pilot although four fifths (79.9%) considered it to be a good idea. The east-west foot and cycle path from the Royal Welsh Collage of Music and Drama to the Millennium Foot Bridge is currently open until 7pm as part of a pilot until 31st Dec... Are you aware of this pilot? (Base: 631) 34.2 63.4 Do you think that it is a good idea? (Base: 618) 79.9 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% Yes 2.4 5.8 50% No 60% 70% 80% 14.2 90% 100% Don't know A total of 156 respondents made additional comments regarding the pilot. A high proportion of these comments were in favour of extending the pilot however some significant concerns were also raised regarding safely and lighting in the park. A selection of the comments made included: Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 24 Comment [JCS30]: The full data set from this question needs to be submitted and considered as part of the pilot review. Valuable and interesting feedback including opposing views on opening times and lighting need further consideration. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Improved No. Comments • I use it several times a week. I strongly support its continuation. • I am using it daily, and has improved my commute immeasurably. It saves me from having to cycle through the city centre • Please keep it going. I have used my bike more to commute since you opened the park in the evening • I think keeping the park open as late as possible for cyclists is an excellent 67 idea • The pilot is an excellent idea and I hope it is continued Good idea/keep it up (42.9%) • This pilot has been very useful for me and I really hope that it continues on • Although I think the access to the park after hours is good, there is not enough lighting on pathways and I have decided for this reason not to cycle through the park after dark • Some people will not use the route because it is not lit. • If there was better lighting the use of this route would increase 53 • Only that it would help if some extra lighting were installed on the path in the vicinity of the "Pig" - where it gets very dark. Such lighting could be Lighting (34.0%) affordable, e.g. solar sticks. • I do not consider this area to be safe during hours of darkness 38 • I wouldn't want to walk there after dark in case of being attacked • People I know have been mugged on this footpath Safety concerns (24.4%) • As long as stays safe then don't see a problem • Can it be extended to the other gates? • This should be applied to all entrances of the park. If access can be gained at one entrance then why not all? • Small community parks such as Grange Gardens & Kitchener shouldn't be locked at all 18 • The park should never be closed. Some of us like to wander/travel in the dark. In the summer it is shameful that the park is locked up when the sun is Widen access (11.5%) still bright. • Brilliant idea but poorly publicised as haven't seen anything in my local bike shop or in Chapter • It would be really useful if it were widely advertised throughout the park - the current signage ('Warning! Park open until 7!') is totally inadequate and sends out the wrong message. It doesn't seem to celebrate the fact that the pilot is 14 happening! • The signage for 7 pm locking was absent for 2 and a half months of the 3 Promotion (9.0%) month trial. • It would be wise to install CCTV at the very least so that people using the paths as a shortcut are at least monitored if the paths are not able to be 7 guarded at all times. • I think it would be improved by a greater presence of staff as it can feel CCTV/Supervision (4.5%) unsafe • Having seen a photo in the Echo, how do I get a bike / wheelchair / pushchair through the turnstile? • In order to preserve the park from the effects of the anti social behaviour and 24 crime in general the park should only be open between sunrise and sunset • I've heard there are arguments in favour of lighting this route and using it on Miscellaneous (15.4%) a permanent basis. Please don't do this! NB. Multiple responses mean that the totals do not equal 100% 8.3 An exit-only turn stile has been installed at the Royal Welsh College of Music and Drama to provide an appropriate exit for anyone who finds themselves locked in the park after hours. A total of 641 responses were received in relation to awareness of the exit equating to a response rate of 99.1%. A total of 632 responses were received by respondents regarding approval of the new exit equating to a response rate of 97.7%. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 25 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Less than a fifth (18.6%) of respondents reported being aware of the newly installed exit at the Royal Welsh College of Music and Drama although almost ninety percent (87.2%) considered it to be a good idea. An exit-only turn stile has been installed at the Royal Welsh College of Music and drama to provide an appropriate exit for anyone who finds themselves locked in the park after hours... Are you aware of this? (Base: 641) 18.6 78.8 Do you think it is a good idea? (Base: 632) 2.7 87.2 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% Yes Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 4.5 6.9 50% No 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Don't know 26 Comment [JCS31]: Turn stile was only installed 17th Nov 2011, low awareness so soon after is not unexpected. Position will be marked as part of new entrance sign scheme programmed at back end of project. Very high approval rating evidences money well spent. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 9: Blackfriars Friary Blackfriars Friary is a scheduled ancient monument dating back to the 12th Century and is of national importance as it is one of the few friary sites for which the full building plan is known. During the 1880’s the 3rd Marquess of Bute undertook a partial restoration of the site, and it is the Victorian brickwork that you see on the site today. As part of the Bute Park Restoration Project the Victorian restoration will be conserved and signage introduced to allow people to better understand and interpret the site. The picture below showing the north view across Black Friars Friary was shown to respondents. 9.1 Do you know what this area of Bute Park is called? A total of 642 responses were received by respondent’s equating to a response rate of 99.2%. Just ten percent of those interviewed face to face were able to correctly name Blackfriars Friary. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 27 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Do you know what this area of Bute Park is called? All Respondents (Base:642) 17.6 Online (Base: 542) 82.4 19.0 Face to Face (Base:100) 81.0 10.0 0% 10% 90.0 20% 30% 40% Yes 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Do not know A total of 113 (17.6%) respondents stated that they knew what this area of Bute Park was called, however just 76 went on to actually name the site and of these just 34 specifically named ‘Blackfriars’ in their response and 28 the word ‘Friary’. A selection of the other responses provided included: • • • • • Greyfriars Old Priory Sensory Garden Monastery Rectory • • • • Comment [JCS32]: This provides baseline data against which to judge the impact of the planned restoration and interpretation schemes. The very poor awareness is notable but not unexpected given the absence of any on-site interpretation. Historic Ruins - possibly a cathedral? Peace Garden Italian Garden Coopers Field 9.2 Looking at the picture again... A total of 639 responses were received by respondent’s regarding each of the statements below equating to response rates of 98.8%. Approximately a quarter (24.2%) of all respondents reported that they were aware that the site is an ancient monument - an old friary site - dating from the 1200’s. In comparison just 15.6% of all respondents were reportedly aware that what remains today is largely brickwork dating from the 1800’s which was laid down by the 3rd Marquess of Bute to show the layout of the original friary site. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 28 Comment [JCS33]: Note neither of the sites key periods of history are presently understood. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Looking at the picture again... Are you aw are that it is an ancient monument - an old f riary site dating from the 1200’s? (Base:639) 24.1 Are you aw are that w hat remains today is largely brickw ork dating from the late 1800s w hich w as laid dow n by the 3rd Marquess of Bute to show the layout of the original friary site? (Base:639) 0% 75.9 15.6 10% 84.4 20% 30% 40% 50% Yes Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% No 29 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 10: The Out of the Woods Festival The 'Out of the Woods Festival' is an annual event held during August. It is a free, family orientated festival held in Coopers Field and themed around woodland management and conservation. 10.1 Have you heard of this event before? A total of 644 responses were received by respondent’s regarding each of the statements below equating to response rates of 99.5%. Just three in every ten (29.5%) respondents reported that they had heard of the ‘Out of the Woods Festival’. This does however show a definite increase from the figures collected during the summer 2011 when just 12.0% of respondents reported to have previously heard of the festival. Have you heard of this event before? All Respondents (Base:644) 29.5 68.0 2.5 Online (Base:545) 29.9 68.4 1.7 Face to Face (Base:99) 27.3 0% 65.7 20% 40% Yes 10.2 60% No 7.1 80% 100% Don't know Is it something that you may be interested in attending in future? A total of 643 responses were received by respondent’s regarding each of the statements below equating to response rates of 99.4%. Whilst approximately just three in ten respondents were aware of the Out of the Woods Festival almost twice as many (57.2%) felt that it was something Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 30 Comment [JCS34]: Pleasing to see a significant increase from last year as a result of a more concerted marketing and publicity campaign which included a feature in the Castle Events programme. Unfortunately, it was not included in the 2012 programme so will be interesting to see if this drops back. Given the nature & scale of event it is not necessary or desirable to significantly raise awareness further. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 that they would be interested in attending in the future. This proportion is similar to that found in the summer 2011 consultation when 52.1% of respondents reported that they would be interested in attending the festival in the future. Is it something that you may be interested in attending in future? All Respondents (Base: 643) 57.2 Online (Base: 545) 21.6 59.8 Face to Face (Base: 98) 19.1 42.9 0% 10% 20% 21.2 21.1 35.7 30% 40% Yes Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 50% No 60% 21.4 70% 80% 90% 100% Don't know 31 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 11: Best and Worst 11.1 What do you think is the best thing about Bute Park? A total of 510 (78.8%) respondents provided details regarding what they believe to be the best thing about Bute Park. As found in previous consultations it was both the size of Bute Park and its city centre location that were considered the most appealing aspects of the park. Many respondents considered Cardiff to stand apart from other large cities in having such an expansive ‘green lung’ or ‘piece of country side’ situated in the heart of the city. Comment [JCS35]: These comments could be utilised and used as part of the marketing campaign e.g. as testimonial quotes & to inspire tag lines. Just a few of the comments received relating to these points include: The sheer size and tranquillity of the park right in the heart of the city centre It is a beautiful green 'lung' in the centre of Cardiff The most fantastic open space of any City that I have visited The sense of being virtually in the countryside The openness and the thought that you could be in the middle of the country side not in the city centre Wide green spaces in the middle of the city It is an oasis in a busy City Centre where you can find peace and where visitors to the city can enjoy and admire the surroundings The size of it and the lack of formal gardens in favour of awesome trees A priceless resource, very lucky to have such green space in the city centre The park is so large and all areas are easily accessible by the winding paths and from the car parks dotted around the perimeter. The wide open spaces, where my dog can run around and exercise freely The size of the area, plenty of open space which means even at the height of summer while at its busiest there is room for everyone to use the park for their desired function whether that be a walk or a game of football Comment [JCS36]: It is consistently clear that the park’s unique selling point is its size and central city location. This has been captured in the main tag lie “The green heart of the city” – which is also represented in the logo. Essential that these qualities are preserved and protected. Interesting that historic interest is scoring very low. This may increase as a result of the increased interpretation of heritage features on site. Also considered to be the best features of Bute Park were the peacefulness within (17.8%), the trees (14.7%) and the overall attractiveness of the park (13.1%). Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 32 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 What do you think is the best thing about Bute Park? (Base:510) City Centre location 36.1 Large size/open space 36.1 17.8 Peacefulness Trees 14.7 Attractiveness 13.1 Planting 12.2 Range of activities 11.0 Maintenance 9.0 7.3 Paths & trails 6.3 Shortcut/link Wildlife/nature 6.1 5.3 River Cycling 4.5 That it is free 3.9 Access 3.7 Cafés 3.5 1.8 Historical interest 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 Percentage 11.2 What do you think is the worst thing about Bute Park? A total of 449 (69.4%) respondents also provided details of what they considered to be the worst thing about Bute Park, of these 11.8% took the opportunity to state that they consider Bute Park to be without failings. Of those individuals that were able to highlight specific areas for improvement Comment [JCS37]: This feedback will be taken back to the Urban Park rangers and partner agencies, including the Friends Group to seek proposals on how this finding can be addressed. However, pleasing to see no “spikes” requiring urgent attention. issues relating to personal safety featured highly. A selection of the comments made in relation to this point included: Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 33 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Lack of security! I do not think I would like to visit the park alone; I am unsure as to how safe it would be People lurk and I don't feel safe by myself Lack of visibility of park keepers. Tend not to go too far into the park on my own as it feels a bit unsafe due to no-one being about. Occasional vandalism - we have observed people picking flowers from the ornamental area one also sees trees/saplings damaged - perhaps more patrols by rangers would help We have stopped visiting it as there are too many drunks who frequent it in large numbers Can get dark and scary at night Can attract wrong sort of people when it gets later Gangs of teenagers drinking & taking drugs. Needles and condoms often found under trees where kids play! 6.9% of the comments made in the winter 2011 consultation referred to the lack Comment [JCS38]: Pleasing to see this drop, which is hopefully a trend that will continue as additional facilities are opened in 2012. of toilet facilities in Bute Park indicating a fall from 13.5% since the previous consultation during summer 2011. What do you think is the worst thing about Bute Park? (Base:449) Safety/security/anti social behaviours 16.5 Nothing is bad 11.8 Dogs 8.2 Closing times 8.2 Litter 7.8 Lack of lighting 7.3 Ongoing developments/building of roads 7.1 Lack of toilets 6.9 Cyclists 6.2 Lack of signage/information 6.0 Other 5.3 Too many events 4.5 Increased traf fic 4.2 Lack of children's play area 3.1 Accessibility 2.0 Footpaths 1.8 Parking 1.8 Lack of seating 1.1 Now here to shelter 0.7 Cold w eather 0.4 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 Percentage Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 34 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 11.3 Is there anything you wish to add that this survey has not allowed you to say regarding Bute Park? A total of 164 (25.3%) respondents took the opportunity to add additional comments to their return. Most commonly these comments included concerns regarding the potential overdevelopment of the park and a desire to see many of its existing features retained for future users. A selection of the comments received relating to this point includes: The most important thing is that the park is maintained in a way that serves people to use it for their own purposes rather than seeking to make money or otherwise out of this amazing amenity Most of the proposed developments seem ok, but I'm slightly concerned about it becoming overly commercialised Please avoid overcommercialising it and try to keep it as traffic free as possible Don't over manage it or make it too touristy. It's nice to have a natural space Don't over-commercialise it please. The additions are great to a point, just don't ruin the peace and space for wildlife Comment [JCS39]: This viewpoint is accepted and understood within the Park Service. Useful to have this opinion/evidence base to inform future policy decisions. The need to raise funds through big events does have to be balanced with the impact on the park. Perhaps a limit per year to give it time to recover. The potential for this beautiful space to be commercially exploited is my greatest concern. There are already some signs that this has happened and future policy must be framed in a way which ensures that the park is still as beautiful and unspoilt in years to come for the people of Cardiff to enjoy as was intended. There are not many such parks in City Centres this is special. Another point raised by respondents were that the park needs to be Comment [JCS40]: This viewpoint is also accepted and understood by the Parks Service and plans are in place as part of the project to improve in this area. advertised more and have improved signage within it (14.0%) whilst 13.4% took the opportunity to say how much they loved the park. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 35 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Is there anything you wish to add that this survey has not allowed you to say regarding Bute Park? (Base:164) Concerns regarding overdevelopment/commercialisation 15.9 Signing/advertising 14.0 I love Bute Park 13.4 Thank you 8.5 Cyclists 6.1 In favour of the developments 6.1 Security/safety 4.9 Dogs 2.4 Traffic 1.8 Closing times 1.8 Access 1.2 Anti-social behaviour 1.2 Bins/litter 1.2 Toilets 0.6 Miscellaneous 11.6 Suggestions for further improvements 17.7 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20 Percentage A total of twenty-nine respondents (17.7%) chose to offer suggestions as to what additions or improvements that they would like to see in the park. These included: “Security re-assurance may be needed? Other than that, a bandstand might be useful around which to centre musical events, or an opportunity to show case local musicians - could be a rotated theme of brass, folk, jazz etc?” “Spend money on maintaining the green environment. Plant more trees, not just in the Park but all over Cardiff. They are attractive and absorb pollution and carbon dioxide” “I would like to urge that the development of the Lodge consults the art sector on plans for the gallery space. There is a wealth of knowledge and intelligence on this area and the city council is initiating a dialogue with the visual arts sector on a city-wide scheme for joined up promotional programming, and this should be part of that initiative” “Could the runners have a few more indicators for potential runs through the woods with distance indicators? There are some but they're not very clear” “Better access to the park from Canton Bridge end for pedestrians/bus users - ie a bus stop outside entrance (I know this is difficult to achieve)” “Park tends to get very muddy in winter so possibly a tarmac path at top end of park near millennium bridge” Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 36 Comment [JCS41]: Pleasing to see some of these suggestions are already planned as part of the project. Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 “If you want to educate kids about conservation of woodland etc. fine - do so - but the best way to get kids and young people out of bars and into the park is to make it attractive with flowers, fountains, walks, trees and kids areas and to add some really attractive European-style cafes and I don't mean some horrible Costa Coffee of Greggs bakery - try a beautiful French patisserie and coffee shop - try a chick French bistro serving hot baguettes. If you stress the woodland conservation aspects and try to incorporate learning too much into the enterprise you will fail. Kids will not go there - I know what would be attractive to my 14 year old nephew and it wouldn't be a visitor centre. It would be a cafe in a nice spot by the river where young kids can meet.” “It would he nice to see a children's play area, possibly a wood themes climbing and exploring apparatus dispersed amongst an area of trees. My children love to climb the trees too.” “Would be good if refreshment facilities existed further up near weir bridge” “Thank you for maintaining what is a great green lung for the city. Cardiff is a Fair Trade City. More should be done (perhaps at tender stage) to ensure that the cafe facilities reflect this fact. Also they could do more to promote health eating” “A plaque or similar explaining the Bute family use for the grounds and the old stables, along with the building of the feeder for Cardiff Docks etc” “Its great to see the capital investment in the park facilities, but there needs to be a rolling programme of improvements beyond the current proposals to tackle issues such as the dock feeder and path improvements” “Maybe it could be used for the marathon and the like” “I would like to see some appropriate natural style children's play equipment in the park” “More music events or gigs should be held in coopers field - these should also be better promoted on the whole i adore having the opportunity to show off Bute Park to family and friends when they visit me in Cardiff” “Need more concerts and music events - Cardiff used to be one of the frontrunners in the UK for live music - it is now lagging well behind” “I would like virtually vandal proof tree names on all the unusual trees in the park. “It is time to move the sports pitches out of the park and to plant a city forest in that area of Blackweir. There are plenty of sports pitches in Pontcanna and Llandaff Fields that are under used” “Would like to see a botanical garden developed” “Bute park really need some more facilities for families. It needs to attract them - look at all the large parks in this country. Each one has playgrounds for children and families.” “I'd like to suggest that the park be used more for live music. I work in live music, and I understand that noise pollution can be an issue. But if the event (and more importantly the PA) is designed properly, and local residents are appropriately warned and/or invited, I think it's an excellent way of using the space, and providing local & international artists a venue to entertain the residents of Cardiff. Opposition should to a certain extent be ignored, as there are always going to be NIMBYS. I live by Ninian Park, and the football related traffic/noise/rubbish is of course a little inconvenient at times, but I wouldn't try to stop it, it's amazing to have such facilities at our doorstep, and we should use them as much as possible.” “Try some "Pony rides" for the children.” “Need more events to bring the city together” Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 37 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 “Maybe a picnic area” “More events for families and younger children” “I think it would be a great if there was a facility in Bute Park which allowed visitors to rent out Coracles, the small boats that fisherman once used on the Taff. It would be something really distinctive to promote both the park and Cardiff as a whole.” “I think there should be more planting of native trees.” “Drinking points for runners/sports people.” “Be good if we can really upgrade the refreshment places so that they dont just serve coffee and panini but something really different so they become destination cafes in their own right. Check out what they are doing in Victoria Park, London. Amazing breakfast venue serving innovative, gastro type food of good value. Amazing place to have breakfast, read the papers, chill out in the park.” Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 38 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 12: Social Media 12.1 Bute Park has dedicated pages on Cardiff Council's website, www.cardiff.gov.uk/butepark A total of 633 responses were received by respondent’s regarding awareness of the pages equating to response rates of 97.8%. A total of 611 responses were received regarding visits to the pages equating to response rates of 94.4%. Approximately two fifths (40.6%) of respondents reported that they were aware of dedicated Bute Park pages on the Cardiff Council website although less than a third (31.6%) had visited them. Comment [JCS43]: Provides trend against previous baseline. Challenge now is to make these pages as relevant & useful as possible. Bute Park has dedicated pages on Cardiff Council's website... Are you aware of these pages? (Base: 633) 40.6 Have you visited these pages? (Base: 611) 57.0 31.6 0% 10% 20% 2.4 66.0 30% 40% Yes 50% No 60% 70% 2.5 80% 90% 100% Unsure These figures demonstrate a considerable increase from those collected during the summer 2011 when just 22.7% of respondents reported being aware of the pages and just 15.1% had visited them2. 12.2 Facebook is now a popular way to share information on a wide range of topics. Bute Park can also now be found on Facebook: 2 The apparent increase in awareness and accessing of the Bute Park pages on www.cardiff.gov.uk may be as a result of increased penetration of the survey via twitter, social media and Your Inbox. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge Comment [JCS42]: Pleasing to see marked increase from last survey. 39 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 A total of 638 responses were received by respondent’s regarding their use of Facebook equating to response rates of 98.6%. A total of 636 responses were received regarding respondents awareness of Bute Park on Facebook equating to response rates of 98.3%. A total of 634 responses were received regarding respondents likelihood of joining Bute Park on Facebook equating to response rates of 98.0%. Approximately three in every five respondents (57.7%) reported to be users of Facebook. Just 12.6% were aware of Bute Park’s presence on Facebook although a quarter (26.0%) reported that they would be likely to join Bute Park on the site. Bute Park can also now be found on Facebook... Are you a user of Facebook? (Base: 638) 57.7 Are you aware of Bute Park on Facebook? (Base: 636) 41.7 12.6 Would you join Bute Park on Facebook? (Base: 634) 86.6 26.0 0% 59.1 20% 40% Yes Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 60% No 14.8 80% 100% Unsure 40 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Section 13: About You The ratio of male to female respondents was split 50:50 whilst the under thirty fives were shown to account for a third (32.3%) of all returns. Gender Male Female Total No. 310 318 628 % 49.4 50.6 100.0 No. Age 16-24 25-34 35-44 45-54 55-64 65+ Total % 51 153 140 134 89 66 633 8.1 24.2 22.1 21.2 14.1 10.4 100.0 Just 6.2% of respondents to the consultation identified themselves as disabled. Do you identify yourself as disabled? No. Yes No Total % 39 591 630 6.2 93.8 100.0 White Welsh/English/Scottish/Northern Irish/British accounted for almost nine tenths (88.4%) of all respondents to the consultation. The estimated White British population in Cardiff from mid 2008 was 84.8% (This estimate is an "experimental" statistic and has not yet received formal National Statistics status. It should therefore be used with appropriate caution and awareness of its limitations) Ethnic group White - Welsh/English/Scottish/Northern Irish/British White - Irish White - Gypsy or Irish Traveller White - Any other white background Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups - White and Black Caribbean Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups - White and Black African Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups - White & Asian Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups - Any other Asian/Asian British - Indian Asian/Asian British - Pakistani Asian/Asian British - Bangladeshi Asian/Asian British - Chinese Asian/Asian British - Any other Black/African/Caribbean/Black British - African Black/African/Caribbean/Black British - Caribbean Black/African/Caribbean/Black British - Any other Arab Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge No. % 550 8 0 23 2 1 3 0 7 2 2 2 3 0 1 0 5 88.4 1.3 0.0 3.7 0.3 0.2 0.5 0.0 1.1 0.3 0.3 0.3 0.5 0.0 0.2 0.0 0.8 41 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Any other ethnic group Prefer not to say Total 0 13 622 0.0 2.1 100.0 What is your postcode? Map 1 shows the distribution of all respondents to the consultation. Postcodes were further plotted to show the distributions of those respondents visiting Bute Park more than once a month compared to those visiting less frequently. Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 42 Comment [JCS44]: Interesting to note a fairly balanced split on east & west side of park and fairly even distribution across city. However can see the most frequent visitors have a west biased. Also, interestingly Cathays ward is relatively under represented. Why? Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Can you faintly show the ward names please? If you are a regular user of Bute Park please indicate if you would be interested in any of the following: Regular users of Bute Park were asked if they would be interested in receiving information or becoming further involved in the management of the park. A total of 270 (41.7%) respondents were keen to receive regular email bulletins about Bute Park whist 109 (16.8%) were interested in becoming further involved via the formally constituted ‘friends group’. Receiving regular email bulletins to keep you up to date on news from Bute Park Having the opportunity to become involved in the management and development of local green spaces via a formally constituted 'friends group'. No. 270 % 41.7 109 16.8 The Bute Park friends group now meets on a monthly basis. There are a variety of ways in which new members can become involved. The activities Comment [JCS45]: This data has been captured & shared with Friends Group to inform their activities. Contact has been made with the interested survey participants & some are now actively engaged. that appealed most to those interested in becoming involved were conservation activities (38.5%), horticultural classes (25.7%) and assisting with the organisation of seasonal events (22.0%). Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge 43 Bute Park Restoration Project - Public Consultation December 2012 Conservation activities Receiving horticultural classes in the new centre Helping organise seasonal events Craft workshops Stewarding and help in organising community events Helping out in the new education centre Becoming an active committee member (Chair, Vice Chair, Treasurer, Secretary etc.) Undertaking and presenting historical research Help giving historical tours and guided walks Help making posters, leaflets etc helping organise sports events in Bute Park Arboretum interpretation and appreciation Children’s activities Other Produced by Customer & Business Knowledge No. 42 28 24 21 21 20 % 38.5 25.7 22.0 19.3 19.3 18.3 19 15 13 12 12 11 9 3 17.4 13.8 11.9 11.0 11.0 10.1 8.3 2.8 44 APPENDIX 2 Bute Park Users Survey Dear Sir/Madam, we are from Cardiff Council and are asking visitors to Bute Park to spare a few minutes to share with us their views and experiences of the Park. We have a short questionnaire to complete that shouldn't take more than ten minutes of your time and in return we will enter you into a thank you prize draw to win £50 of high street shopping vouchers. 0.a Day 0.b Tues Wed Thurs Fri Sat Sun Time of day 0.c Mon 8-10am 10-12am 12-14pm 14-16pm 16-18pm Interviewer _____________________________________________________________________________ 0.d Do you: (tick all that apply) 0.e Live in Cardiff Work in Cardiff Visiting the city for the day Visiting as part of a longer trip How did you travel to Bute Park today? (tick the option that relates to the major part of the journey) On foot Bicycle Car Train Organised coach Bus Taxi Other If 'other' please specify ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________ 1. On average how frequently do you use Bute Park? (Prompt if needed 'at this time of year') 2. More than once a day Daily More than once a week Less than once a month Very occasionally First time visitor More than once a month How do you usually visit Bute Park? (Please tick all that apply, if first time visitor, what type of group are they in today?) Alone With partner With children under 5 years With children aged 5-10 years With children aged over 10 years With elderly friends or relatives With friends Other If 'other' please specify ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________ 3. What are your reasons for visiting Bute Park? (SHOWCARD A - Please tick all that apply) Children's play Exercise/sport Dog walking Short cut Walking Horticulture/arboriculture interest Nature/bird watching Meeting place Sit and relax Picnic/lunch break Firework display Concert/event Fun run/marathon Educational visit Formal team sports i.e. football/rugby/cricket Cycling Photography Other If 'other' please specify ________________________________________________________________________________ 4. Visitors to Bute Park use the paths for a variety of different things i.e. cycling, dog walking, walking, jogging etc. How respectful do you feel visitors are of one another? 5. Very respectful Mostly respectful Somewhat disrespectful Very disrespectful Are there any additional comments that you would like to make about this? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ 6. On a rating scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being 'poor' and 5 being 'excellent' how would you rate the provision of the following services in Bute Park? (SHOWCARD B) Car parking Transport links Sign posting Labelling of the arboretum (tree collection) Lighting Condition of paths Accessibility for prams/wheelchairs Toilet facilities Provision for children Provision for youth Provision of special events Provision of refreshments Provision of seating Provision of litter bins Personal safety Grounds maintenance Formal floral display Work of the park rangers On site supervision and safety Visitor information Publicity and promotion 1 2 3 4 5 Don't know 7. Bute Park is currently undergoing a £5.6 million restoration project, supported by a £3.1 million grant from the Heritage Lottery Fund. This is to restore some important historic features within the park as well as providing some new facilities. Are you aware of this project? 8. No Not sure Do you feel that the park has changed in appearance over the past twelve months? 9. Yes Yes, it has improved Yes, it has declined No, it has stayed the same Don't know In what way do you feel that it has improved or declined? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ 10. The 21st of October saw the official launch of the new education centre in Bute Park Are you aware of the new building? Have you visited the site yet? 11. No If yes, on a rating scale of 1 to 5 with 1 being 'poor' and 5 being 'excellent' how would you rate the education in terms of the following? Quality of the building Appropriateness of the facility Cafe facilities Public toilets 12. Yes 1 2 3 4 5 Don't know Are there any other comments that you would like to make about the education centre? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ 13. This is the newly developed logo for Bute Park & Arboretum. Have you seen it before? (SHOWCARD C) 14. Yes No Don't know Are there any comments that you would like to make about the logo? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ 15. The east-west foot and cycle path from the Royal Welsh Collage of Music and Drama to the Millennium Foot Bridge is currently open until 7pm as part of a pilot until 31st Dec. Are you aware of this pilot? Do you think that it is a good idea? Yes No Don't know 16. Why? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ 17. An exit-only turn stile is to be installed at the Royal Welsh College of Music and Drama to provide an appropriate exit for anyone who finds themselves locked in the park after hours. Are you aware of this? Do you think it is a good idea? 18. Yes No Don't know Which of the following do you associate with Bute Park? (SHOWCARD D- please tick all that apply) Cardiff Castle The Animal Wall Arboretum (tree collection) Dock feeder canal Cooper's Field Gorsedd Stones Victorian landscaping/Andrew Pettigrew Grade 1 listed historic landscape Council plant nursery Running events i.e. marathon/fun run Mardi Gras Concerts Firework displays Old Castle Mill Blackweir bridge Blackweir fish pass Summerhouse Piaggio (mobile catering run by the Summerhouse) West Lodge New Access Bridge Herbaceous Border Art/Sculpture Out of the Woods Festival Boat Stage (Aquabus) Sports pitches i.e. football/rugby/cricket RHS Show Castle Mews Is there anything else not listed that you associate with Bute Park? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ 19. Do you know what this area of Bute Park is called? (SHOWCARD E) Blackfriers Friary If other what? Do not know Other ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ 20. Looking at the picture again Are you aware that it is a scheduled ancient monument? Are you aware that what remains today is the Victorian interpretation of a 13th century friary excavated in the 19th century by the third Marquess of Bute? Yes No The 'Out of the Woods Festival' is an annual event held during August. It is a free, family orientated festival held in Coopers Field and themed around woodland management and conservation. 21. Have you heard of this event before? 22. No Don't know Is it something that you may be interested in attending in future? 23. Yes Yes No Don't know As we come towards the end, what do you think is the best thing about Bute Park? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________ And..... 24. What do you think is the worst thing about Bute Park? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________ 25. Is there anything you wish to add that this survey has not allowed you to say regarding Bute Park? ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________ 26. Bute Park has dedicated pages on Cardiff Council's website, www.cardiff.gov.uk/butepark Are you aware of these pages? Have you visited these pages? 27. Yes No Unsure Facebook is now a popular way to share information on a wide range of topics. Bute Park can also now be found on facebook: Are you a user of facebook? Are you aware of Bute Park on facebook? Would you join Bute Park on facebook? Yes No Unsure About You Any data supplied by you on this form will be processed in accordance with Data Protection Act requirements and in supplying it you consent to Cardiff Council processing the data for the purpose for which it is supplied. All personal information provided will be treated in the strictest confidence and will only be used by Cardiff Council or disclosed to others for a purpose permitted by law. If there are any questions you would prefer not to answer please leave these blank. 28. Are you male or female? 29. Male 16-24 25-34 35-44 45-54 55-64 65+ Do you identify yourself as disabled? 31. What was your age on your last birthday? 30. Female Yes No What is your ethnic group? Please select one from the dropdown list. White - Welsh/English/Scottish/Northern Irish/British White - Irish White - Gypsy or Irish Traveller White - Any other white background (please specify) Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups - White and Black Caribbean Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups - White and Black African Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups - White & Asian Mixed/Multiple Ethnic Groups - Any other (please specify) Asian/Asian British - Indian Asian/Asian British - Bangladeshi Asian/Asian British - Chinese Asian/Asian British - Any other (please specify) Black/African/Caribbean/Black British - African Black/African/Caribbean/Black British Caribbean Black/African/Caribbean/Black British - Any other (please specify) Arab Any other ethnic group (please specify) Prefer not to say Asian/Asian British - Pakistani Please specify any other ethnic groups below: _________________________________________________________________________ 32. What is your postcode? (we ask this question to enable us to identify the catchment area of users of Bute Park) ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________ 33. If you are a regular user of Bute Park please indicate if you would be interested in any of the following: Being entered into a free prize draw for £50 high street shopping vouchers Receiving regular email bulletins to keep you up to date on news from Bute Park Having the opportunity to become involved in the management and development of local green spaces via a formally constituted 'friends group'. 34. The Bute Park friends group now meets on a monthly basis. There are a variety of ways in which new members can become involved, would any of the following be of interest to you? (SHOW SHOWCARD D) Becoming an active committee member (Chair, Vice Chair, Treasurer, Secretary etc.) Helping organise seasonal events Receiving horticultural classes in the new centre Children’s activities Conservation activities Helping out in the new education centre Help making posters, leaflets etc Craft workshops Help giving historical tours and guided walks Undertaking and presenting historical research Arboretum interpretation and appreciation Stewarding and help in organising community events helping organise sports events in Bute Park Other If other please specify ________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________ Thank you for your interest - To enable us to contact you further please supply the following details 35. Name ________________________________________________________________________________ 36. Address ________________________________________________________________________________ 37. Postcode ________________________________________________________________________________ 38. Email ________________________________________________________________________________ 39. Telephone ________________________________________________________________________________ Thank you for your time