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INTERVIEWS WITH THE WORLDS LEADING TRAVELLERS THE EXPAT CHAT EUROPE’S BEST LOW COST AIRLINES REVEALED JANUARY 2016 | ISSUE 01 6 SUPER TECH PIECES TO PACK WHEN TRAVELLING HOW TO BUILD A COVER STORY: relocating their job from CHICAGO to COSTA RICA! MEET THE KIWI COUPLE WHO TURNED A VILLAGE IN LAOS ON IT’S HEAD THE CANADIAN COUPLE LIVING A MILLIONAIRE LIFESTYLE ON LESS THAN $C2000 MONTH SUCCESSFUL TRAVEL FUND 20 THINGS TO LOVE ABOUT CHIANG MAI LIFE WITHOUT ICE CREAM: REMOTE GROCERY SHOPPING IN MEXICO! HOW TO BUILD A GREAT TEAM TO HELP YOU TRAVEL JANUARY 2016 WWW.THEEXPATCHAT.COM THE EXPAT CHAT january 2016 | ISSUE 01 CONTENTS IN THIS ISSUE: WELCOME TO THE VERY FIRST EDITION OF THE EXPAT CHAT MAGAZINE! THIS MONTHS CONTRIBUTORS BRENDAN LEE SAM PATTON DIANA EDELMAN CHUCK ROS DEIDRE MIZE DAVE DEAN LETTERS TO THE EDITOR: “As this content includes directly transcribed interviews and regional language variations, some grammar and spelling will differ accordingly”. Got questions? Thoughts? Dreams of Travel? We would love to hear from you! STAFF LEANNE ARGYLE editor LEAH SARAH LIMCANGCO 2 3 EDITOR’S NOTE COVER STORY: HOW TO TAKE YOUR JOB FROM CHICAGO TO COSTA RICA 15 WORLD FESTIVALS 17 HOW TO BUILD A TRAVEL FUND 20 FROM CORPORATE LIFE TO A CAFÉ IN LAOS 36 HAVE OUTSOURCERS WILL TRAVEL: WHY BUILDING AN ONLINE BUSINESS DOESN’T MEAN HAVING TO DO IT YOURSELF 39 20 THINGS I LOVE ABOUT CHIANG MAI 43 LIVE LIKE A MILLIONAIRE FOR FREE 58 GROCERY SHOPPING IN XCALAK, MEXICO 61 MY 6 PIECES OF TECH GEAR THAT HAVE MOST IMPROVED MY TRAVELS 64 EUROPE’S BEST LOW COST AIRLINES 68 THE LAST WORD — MARGO PAIGE Love our Magazine? Check out THE EXPAT CHAT PODCAST On itunes Click Here editorial assistant CRISANTO DOMINGUEZ graphics and design CONTACT [email protected] [email protected] 1 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 or visit our website http://theexpatchat.com/ "Inspiring tales from people living the life of their dreams through travel" January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. HI EVERYONE! Welcome to the very first issue of The Expat Chat e-magazine! W e are really excited about bringing the world to your inbox (and your ears through our Podcast) by t alking to expats, digital nomads and roaming retiree’s about their new lifestyle either on the road or moving to an entirely different country. Each one has a different story, a d ifferent ‘why’ which as humans now living in a world where more and more is possible, we find intriguing and find ourselves wondering whether we could ‘do it too?’ Our mission with both the magazine and the podcast is to dispel the myths around travel being: not safe, too expensive The world in which we live is changing – faster, it seems than it ever has before. With it can come chaos, uncertainty and change on a global scale… but with all change comes re-birth and the creation of new opportunities. We now live in a world that our grandparents can only have imagined. Many of them worked a 60+ hour week, had no holidays, couldn’t travel affordably even if they wanted, and worse forced to work until they could work no more. Life was about survival. Some say that the baby boomers are the first generation to really enjoy life; to do more than just survive – and it would be fair to say that we have embraced the opportunity wholeheartedly – travelling more, buying more and doing more than our parents ever could. But are we happier? Research tends to say no – but for some the answer is a definitive yes. Not everyone has embraced the post war millennial consumeristic boom that has taken over our society. For some it is about living for their passion and doing what they want because it feels right and it makes them happy. Many have found happiness following their travel dreams – be it as expat retirees enjoying the simple things of life far more affordably in another culture, or the new generation of digital nomads whose income is tied to a computer but not to a desk – free to roam the world, docking in wherever they can get good internet. Then there is the perpetual traveler – worldwide wanderers who enjoy the experiences most spend two weeks and several thousand dollars to grab but have mastered the art of doing it for cents in the dollar. In this issue we share the experiences of Junior and Jackie Minchillo who had enough of the winters of Chicago and chose to relocate their jobs and their lives to sunny Costa Rica. We meet Andrej and Karen Brummer two corporate kiwis now living in Laos who teach the locals how to make western foods and give all the profit to local schools; who after doing a vision board together, realized they weren’t living their passion and Michael and Yvonne Bauche, a fantastic Canadian couple housesitting in the Caribbean living the millionaire lifestyle without the cost! If you’ve been enjoying our podcast episodes we’re excited to be bringing you this publication. Look forward to more issues soon. Leanne Argyle Editor 2 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. HOW TO TAKE YOUR JOB FROM CHICAGO to COSTA RICA An interview with JACKIE and JUNIOR MINCHILLO How long would it take you to get tired of Chicago winters and two weeks holiday per year? For Illinois couple Jackie and Junior Minchillo it wasn’t long. The corporate life of all day meetings and working into the night proved to be too much and in April this year they made their move to sunny Costa Rica with their pet dog Harvey. After some initial problems with the first house they stayed in they have now settled 3 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 into a local expat community in Playa Langosta a small beachside community of less than 1000 people near the town of Tamarindo and they haven’t looked back. Their new life now gives them the best of both worlds with their income in US dollars while their costs are in Costa Rican colones giving them far more spending power for their dollar. We caught up with them both for a recent chat. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Tony (Argyle): We’re with Jackie and Junior Minchillo today who are coming to us live from Costa Rica. Hi guys! How are you? Jackie (Minchillo): are you? Hi Tony! How Tony: I’m great. Thank you very much. Thanks for asking. First question, describe your surroundings. Where are you sitting and what are you looking at at the moment? Jackie: Well,we live in Playa Langosta, Costa Rica, which is the north-western coast of the country in the Guanacaste region; so it’s very hot and sunny here. I mean outside of our window—we live in a building, so we get to look at the pool and palm trees. We’re on a dirt road. We’re about a 5-minute walk to the beach, and we can kind of hear the ocean from our balcony; so we like to sit out there in the mornings, and we can see the sunset in the evenings from our balcony, which is awesome We’re technically supposed to be in the rainy season right now, but we’re actually in a really severe need for rain in this area. It’s only rained a few times, and so we’ve been in a bit of a water shortage lately. And—I don’t know… Do you have anything else that you would add about the surroundings? Junior (Minchillo): No, I really enjoy looking at the palm trees outside and the sun and the blue skies. Tony: Well, thanks, because I’m sitting in the middle of a wintry day in Australia here, so if you want some rain, I’m more than happy to send it across to you. Jackie: Well, we feel your pain. We moved here from Chicago, Illinois, in the United States; so we’re very familiar with harsh, cold winters. Tony: What made you choose Costa Rica? Jackie: A lot of people ask us this question. We’ve actually said, ‘We should probably figure out what our exact answer is to that’, because a lot of people ask us. It was somewhat random. We started talking about moving to another country in general. We really needed change. We were looking for the experience of really immersing ourselves in a different culture; so we started watching this YouTube show on expats, and that kind of tipped us off to Costa Rica first. We saw an episode with this couple who was living here, and they just seemed to be loving life. We also had a friend that came and stayed for 3 months in Tamarindo, and he also raved about the area and loved it. What else? Junior: But we did our own research in terms of location. We looked at a couple of different things. We looked at the language, the cost of living, where in the world we were going to live. Language, because they speak Spanish here—I do speak Spanish— so it was a little bit easier for us instead of, let’s say, Thailand or going to Italy or some other country in Europe or even somewhere else in Asia. Colourful Downtown San Jose 4 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Also because I’m from Brazil—it is right in the middle of, in between the US and Brazil. Those were some of the things that we looked at. Obviously, the biggest one was weather. It was a requirement to be warm and be close to the beach. Tony: Well, it keeps you out of those cold Chicago winters, doesn’t it? Tell us a bit about your old life, because you haven’t been there very long, which was one of the great reasons I want to talk to you today… about the freshness of your experience. What was your old life like before? Jackie: I would say our life was a typical description of the rat race. We’re living in Chicago – big city, very busy, lots of people. I worked in an agency and spent a lot of my day and a lot of my night working all of the time. And just kind of that expectation in general, in the United States, that we both kind of got caught up in in terms of not really having a lot of time off, being expected to be available via email or phone all of the time. We were a bit lost. We were living to work vs working to live; and it just was exhausting. Junior: I’d have to agree with what she just said. Tony: Yeah. That’s a common story that a lot of people say. Did you reach a point where you just decided ‘that’s it’ or was it a gradual transition? How long have you been thinking about shifting before you did it? Junior: quick. I guess we did it pretty Jackie: It was pretty quick. 5 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 ‘‘ ‘‘ We looked at cost to travel back and forth. Because we are pretty close to the US, the cost to fly is relatively cheap. You know what? We gotta make change…. Let’s do it! Junior: Once we started talking about it, I would say it was within 4 to 5 months. Jackie: That we moved, yeah. Junior: That we moved, yup. We started talking about it. We said, ‘You know what? We gotta make a change. Let’s do it.” “Okay, let’s do it”. And then the next day, we started doing our research. And now 4 months later, we are in Costa Rica. Jackie: Yeah. . I mean, I would say, kind of the tipping point —Junior already mentioned that he’s from Brazil—so the tipping point of us, kind of starting to talk about it and start researching it, seriously was actually, when we were trying to plan a trip to Brazil and we were getting really frustrated, because for me, I only had two weeks of for the entire year that I was allowed to take off work. And for us, living in Chicago, that really limited us. It didn’t really make sense to take a trip to Brazil for less than two weeks. But if we did that and took the full two weeks, that takes away any possibility to go visit home for the holidays or take a 3-day weekend over the summer. So that was really frustrating, and we just had this epiphany of ‘there are people that make travel a priority all over the world, so let’s figure out how they do it so that we can do it too’. Junior: Yeah, and two weeks is just not a long-enough—if you like travelling and you want to explore the world, two weeks out of the year is not long enough. Tony: I picked up on that, Jackie. You said you only get two weeks and then your holiday at your old job? Jackie: Yeah. I mean I would say that that’s pretty typical in the United States. Some companies are now getting a little bit more progressive about it, and some companies will have programs where you can accrue extra paid time off the longer that you work for the company and things of that nature; but to the best of my knowledge, two weeks is still pretty typical on average across the country. And so, I mean that definitely does make it tough; and it limits you for sure in terms of what you can do in a given year. Tony: Yeah, for sure. So you guys, when did you move to Costa Rica? It hasn’t been that long ago, has it? Jackie: Well, we moved on April Fool’s Day, April 1st of this year. Tony: omen. I hope that wasn’t a bad Junior: Believe it or not, it is true. Tony: So it’s obviously a fresh experience. What, I suppose, trials and tribulations did you go through during that travelling process? What did you do wrong? What did you do right? What recommendations would you have for people? Jackie: Oh gosh, everything has been an adventure. Junior: Yeah. You just learn so much. It’s a completely different place; and the way people live and the way things are done here in terms of shopping, in terms of how you talk to people and bargaining, and in terms of prices, it is a little bit different. I mean… I don’t know. Do you want to—Jackie? January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. A typical Neighbourhood in San Jose Jackie: Yeah.I mean in terms of the research process, if we just even start there, it was pretty tough to find the information just in general. I mean if we’re talking about Costa Rica specifically, it’s still a developing country in a lot of ways; and a lot of businesses are really operating kind of the old-fashioned way – on word of mouth, and they’re happy serving the local community and the tourists that come through; but they don’t do a ton of advertising and don’t have a lot of information available online for example. So when we were trying to research areas and figure out ‘okay, if we lived here, what would be around us? What would be close to us?’ That kind of stuff is super difficult to figure out because not a lot of businesses have websites or they have websites that don’t have a ton of information or haven’t been updated in a long time. So we actually spent a lot of our time during the research phase reaching out and connecting with other expats 6 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 that we found on Facebook or that we found online one way or another that were already living here just to say, ‘Hey, we’re trying to figure out X. Do you know how to do this or where we should go to find the information?’ So that was kind of tricky. And I guess probably the biggest— oh, go ahead. Tony: Sorry, I was just going to say, ‘Did the shifting process go quite smoothly for you?’ Jackie: Our first house that we lived in in Costa Rica was an experience that we’ll never forget, and we did something that I wouldn’t recommend to other people. And that was we found this house online. It was close to the beach, which was one of our requirements, and it was within our price range; and we talked to the owner of that house one time and just asked him some questions about accessibility, and we saw one photo of the house; and we said, ‘Okay. We’re there. We’ll do it. Sounds good.’ When we got there, it was quite another story. We ended up quite in the middle of nowhere in an extremely rural area— Junior: Without a car. Jackie: Yeah, no car. The owner advised things were in walking distance, but it was about a 45-minute walk for example to get to the nearest store to buy anything; and he knew that we wouldn’t have a car. So that was a challenge. The house was very much… I don’t even know what you would call it – rustic living I guess. No windows, just open air, no locks on the door. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Junior: No bathroom door. Jackie: Yeah, no doors in the house, no bathroom doors. So that all was a huge shock to us; and we ended up making it one week in the house, and then we just kind of had a heart-toheart with the owner and said, ‘We really apologise. We really thought that we were going to stay longer, but we just can’t do it. We need to move closer to town. For us, this is beyond culture shock. I don’t know if we’re going to be able to figure out how to live out here’, kind of by ourselves in the middle of nowhere in the Costa Rican country side. Tony: Well, the good thing about those experiences, they’re no fun at the time; but they make great coffee cup stories for later on, because you always remember those moments, and you can laugh about them afterwards; but at the time, they just don’t seem very funny, do they? Jackie: Oh yeah. We say that all the time – about how we’ll be telling that story for years. Tony: Okay. So let’s just look at cost of living in Costa Rica. I understand it’s reasonably affordable. How does it compare to the US? Jackie: For us, it’s a night-and-day difference from living in Chicago; so it’s kind of two extremes. Chicago is an expensive city to live in, so it is by no means the average. I would say it’s on the higher end in terms of United States’ cost of living And then the area that we now ended up in in Costa Rica, we now learned it is also on the higher end for the country; so you can find places to live in Costa Rica that are a lot cheaper than where we’re living. This is just where we decided to be because it made the most sense for us, and we liked it the most. For example, we cut our rent in half basically. In Chicago, we were paying 1,325 US dollars for a one-bedroom 7 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 apartment in the city. Here, we’re paying $750 for a one-bed, two-bath condo. And then in terms of utilities, it’s between $150 and $200 a month I would say. In terms of utilities in Costa Rica, by far, the most expensive is going to be your electricity from running the air-conditioner; so if you can be more conservative with your air-conditioner, you’ll probably save a lot of money on cost of living. And then we kind of sat down the other day and took a look at this and figured we’re spending around $500 a month on groceries. I mean from my perspective, from our perspective, I would say $2,000 a month is a really comfortable budget in Costa Rica in the area that we’re in. Junior: I think the biggest thing that helped us was cutting all of our expenses – not all of them, but most of them – when it comes to car payments, car insurance, health insurance, all these different things we’re being charged on a monthly basis that really we don’t need. And when you’re in the US, you think, ‘Oh, this is good. This is what I want’, and then you come here, and you realize, ‘Oh, I really don’t need all those services.’ We cut down on that. We cut down a lot on all these expenses. Tony: Just talking about health cover there, Junior, how do you cover yourselves, and what’s the quality of health care like in Costa Rica? Junior: We actually don’t have health care here. We just chose not to have it. We have insurance in the US, and we looked at how much we spent in the US for the year; and on top of the payments, we had co-pays. So healthcare in the US, as of now, I don’t think it’s at a good place. Here, because we are pretty young, we are healthy, we keep ourselves active, we prefer to—if we need to go to the doctor, we would just pay for the visit out-of-pocket. We haven’t really done a lot of research on how healthcare works here in Costa Rica. We just know that as of now, we don’t need it. Tony: Okay. That’s interesting. The people I’ve been speaking to so far, I’ve always known the US’s healthcare as being quite expensive. What I hadn’t realized is it’s actually not that good compared to other parts of the world. There are lots of parts in Asia and probably through Central America where not only is it considerably cheaper, the healthcare, but the quality’s actually better, which is another reason why people are so keen to move I think. Jackie: I think so. Junior: We heard that too, yeah. Jackie: Medical tourism is a term that they use here. There are lots of people that come to Costa Rica for— if they need some sort of surgical procedure or if they need dental work done, because like you said, they can get quality care for a fraction of the cost. Tony: Can I ask a question? Obviously, you’ve thrown in your old jobs. How are you finding your lifestyle now? Jackie: We both work from home, so… do you want to go first and talk about what you do? Junior: Sure.. I work with web development. I was working from home for the majority of time in Chicago. I kept most of my clients from the US. That was one of the reasons why we said we are able to make the move. I can keep my clients, and I will have these clients for at least the next three months; and then we’ll see what happens. I’m still doing the same thing. I get new clients now and then, and… yeah. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Jackie: And then for me, my background is in public relations and marketing. Actually, when I spoke with my boss in Chicago and let him know that we’re going to be making the move; we actually worked out an arrangement together. I spent some time consulting on public relation strategies still on a freelance basis for some of my same clients, and I started doing some work freelance writing as well since we got down here. So, so far, it’s been working out really well. We both have kind of a steady flow of clients that are all based in the United States. And since we’ve been here, we kind of started networking with people. We’ve had some local businesses and local business owners that have expressed some interest in working on projects with us too, which is great because we would love to get more involved with people locally too. So we’ve got our dining room converted into an office with our work stations, and we work from home. Tony: That sounds like our dining room. We do exactly the same thing. Hey, that’s interesting because you guys are really getting the best of both worlds there because you’re obviously still earning US dollars but spending the Costa Rican currency, which is considerably cheaper for you. So that’s a great one in itself, but I think the other interesting thing about what you said, obviously what you do, Junior, that’s something that a portable business; but in your case, Jackie, you probably didn’t see the opportunity for that to become portable. And now, because you’ve spoken to your boss, you’ve actually created a position that you can travel with which maybe didn’t exist before? Jackie: Yeah, absolutely. I mean when we had talked about it, we had kind of had this whole conversation of ‘here is what I would like to do’. I’m going to have to quit my job. There’s probably going to be a period of time where I’m not going to be working and bringing in any income until I can figure out how to sort of change course. So we had kind of prepared ourselves for that, and then I ended up being pleasantly surprised by the opportunity coming up just to work remotely, and it’s worked out really well. Tony: How’s affordability of flights from there? You mentioned about travelling down to Brazil. Is it comparable to travelling from the US to Brazil? Jackie: Surprisingly—we’re going to be going on a trip to Brazil in October, so I’ll just use that as an example. We found flights from San Jose, Costa Rica, to Sao Paulo, Brazil, for basically the same price that you can buy them from Chicago to Brazil, which was surprising because we’re closer, we thought that flights would be more affordable; but I have a feeling it has to do with just the number of daily flights. They’re just not as many going from Costa Rica as there are from some hubs in the States. So when we’re going in October, we’re actually flying to Miami first, and then we booked a round trip flight from there; and it was less than half the costs Tony: Wow. So that shows it pays obviously to maybe look at ratings out back through a US hub if you wanted to go anywhere else in Central or South America. Jackie: Yeah. I mean we haven’t really looked into any other trips where we would have to take a flight yet, but it’s definitely something that we’ll look at, I think, moving forward for any trip because it surprised us. It’s quite interesting just in general for us, even talking with family and friends about coming down here to visit us – you can definitely find deals out there and find affordable travel, but sometimes, you just need to get creative with it. Tony: Yup. How’s safety for you? Do you feel safe living there? Jackie: Yup. Junior: I do. The climate in the mountains is perfect for growing and harvesting coffee 8 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Jackie: That would be the short answer. We haven’t had any issues whatsoever since we’ve been here. I think it’s like anywhere in the world really where you just need to use some common sense and kind of have your wits about you. Just from what we’ve observed and from what other people have shared with us, January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Stunning scenery abounds in Costa Rica…it’s not just beaches I think theft is probably the biggest issue in terms of crime here. But again, I think it comes down to don’t necessarily be super flashy, make sure you lock your doors, don’t leave things in the car that you wouldn’t want someone to be tempted by, things like that. We try not to carry a lot of cash on us when we go out and about. Junior: We don’t wear our rings. Jackie: We don’t wear our wedding rings. We just leave them back home. So we do take precautions in that way just to protect ourselves and thinking about if something were to happen, what would upset us if someone took it basically, and then we protect those items. But again, we haven’t had 9 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 any issues. I feel totally safe walking around town here on my own. I’ll walk down to the beach with the dog by myself, and it’s not an issue. Yeah, it’s been… people here have a very friendly disposition, and people say ‘hi’ when you pass them on the street; and it’s a small town, so there’s definitely a community feel here where, for the most part, you might not know everyone personally, but you pretty much recognise everyone that’s a local here. Tony: So I guess you’re not really having to take any more precautions than what you might have done in Chicago anyway. Junior: No. Jackie: No. Junior: We might have taken more in Chicago. Jackie: Yeah. Tony: I was going to say that, but I didn’t want to imply anything (laughter). So what do you miss the most about being away from the US? Junior: I think it’s the same for both of us, right? I think it’s just being able to—it’s just the friends and the family that we left behind. Jackie: Yeah. Junior: When you move far from home to a different country or across the country, it is difficult to leave January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. friends behind; but with time, you meet people, and that’s how—you make new friends. We haven’t been here for too long, and we started making a couple of friends. I don’t know if they’re friendsfriend, but the friendship is definitely flourishing now. So… yeah. Tony: Is that with other expats? Is there an expat community where you are? Junior: There is a huge, yeah, expat community. Most of them are from the US, but we’ve met quite a few locals that I play soccer with or play volleyball, that we just started talking, and we met. Jackie: Our dog has been an excellent networking tool. I will say that. You meet other people that have dogs really easily. Tony: Yeah. I can imagine that will be the case. How long does it take you to get back to Chicago and 10 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 what’s your flight cost if you do need to return? Tony: A good opportunity to come down and have a look first, aye? Junior: It’s about six hours I think. Jackie: Yeah. Definitely. Jackie: It’s about six hours total flight time, and there’s generally a connection in Florida somewhere. Tony: So internet coverage seems fairly good. We’ve had no problems on this call. Is it generally pretty reliable? Junior: Or Atlanta. Jackie: Let me think about the flight costs. We did a round trip from Chicago to Liberia for $750 each. Most recently, we did a roundtrip from Miami to San Jose, and we found those tickets for $450 apiece; so you really need to shop around the airlines, shop around where you’re flying in and out of, and kind of do some comparison shopping. I will say I’ve seen a lot of news in the past couple of weeks, and Southwest Airlines is newly flying into both San Jose and Liberia, Costa Rica; so they seem to be running some really awesome deals right now. So if people were, looking, I would definitely check them out. Jackie: Yup. I mean it’s generally pretty reliable. We do pay for an upgraded speed on our internet at home, and it’s not too expensive. I think the internet package is $80 a month, and that’s for 10 megabytes of speed. Junior: Yeah. It might not seem much in the US, but for Costa Rica, usually, it’s about 2 megabytes – the average here, or what most people will have is 2. So 10, we feel like ‘oh wow. The websites are loading really fast’. Tony: Yeah. And I guess given your businesses too, you need to have that reliability; and I guess that’s effective for people. When they do relocate, if January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. ‘‘ It just becomes a matter of what it is that I want to do every day that makes me happy. Junior: Yes, absolutely. Jackie: Oh yeah. Definitely. I mean there are days when the internet will go out, so if you’re from a place where you’re used to superfast, super reliable internet, I would be prepared for a few days of frustration for sure. Like there have been times where the internet goes out for a day, and there’s no one that’s going to answer the phone and give you an indication of when the internet is coming back on. You just kind of have to wait for it. Junior: Usually, it’s not for a full day. Jackie: Yeah, I mean I would— Junior: Just for an hour, sometimes a few hours. It’s not for a full 24 hours. Jackie: No. Tony: I guess when you’re in Costa Rica, you got to be prepared for that. And most people are kind of living in ‘olden times’, for want of the better word. That’s part of what you pay about living there, and I guess the frustration. If you want something fixed, it probably takes a few days. Is that the case? Jackie: Oh yeah. Junior: Yeah. Jackie: Yeah. Definitely. It’s a relaxed culture in general, and so… yeah. Junior: So ‘tomorrow’ might mean ‘next week’. 11 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 ‘‘ they’re working online, that’s probably the first priority almost, isn’t it? Jackie: ‘Next week’. Junior: ‘We’ll get it done tomorrow.’ ‘Oh okay, all right. I’ll expect to get it done next week then when you say tomorrow.’ We got used to it here. Tony: That’s actually better than Australia. When you ring a tradie here and they tell you they’re coming tomorrow, you don’t see them at all… so. Junior: Oh okay. Jackie: Oh, we’re lucky then. Tony: You are. You shouldn’t complain. Honestly, there are worse places, I can tell you. Junior: There you go. Tony: You’re over that ‘honeymoon’ phase now. What would you say has been the disappointment of having done it, and what’s been a pleasant surprise? Has there been things that have happened that were ‘oh, that’s really good. That’s better than I thought it would be’, and other things that have not been what you’re expecting? Jackie: For me… Junior grew up in Brazil, and so a lot of things about the culture are somewhat similar; but for me, having always grown up and lived in the United States, I think sort of the thing that surprised me and that I really enjoyed was kind of how lax a lot of things are. We can take the dog with us into a restaurant. He can run loose on the beach and play with the other dogs for example, whereas in most places in the United States, you would not e allowed to do that. You can grab a beer from a local restaurant, and if you’re not finished but then you’re ready to leave, you can just walk out with it and walk down the street with it. Things are very relaxed. There are rules, but for me and compared to what I’m used to, it’s like ‘Woo, there are no rules here!’ like I can just be happy and relaxed and not worry and kind of do what I want to do on a day-to-day basis, and no one will say anything about it. That was kind of interesting and fun and surprising all at the same time. In terms of disappointments, I don’t necessarily think that we have been disappointed by anything, but just challenged in ways that we had never encountered before. Junior kind of already mentioned leaving the network behind. That’s definitely, for me, the hardest part too – you really have to put yourself out there in a way that you never have before, and you need to figure out culturally what is acceptable. Everything from calling the cable company to what do you tip at a restaurant to when you meet someone local, what kind of questions can you ask them? Can you be inquisitive about their family or are there any cultural things that you should be aware of there? You have to figure out ‘where do we buy our groceries? Where can we go if something breaks? Who do we call for really anything that you need to take care of?’ And then friends, meeting friends – you just have to basically put yourself out on the line and say, ‘I’m new here. This is my name, and this is what I do’, and, ‘Let’s be friends. Tony: Yeah, sometimes that’s where you get the enjoyment out of life – by being forced into those situations. You do feel more alive, I guess, as a result of doing that. Jackie: Definitely. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Tony: The final question, I guess, for you guys is ‘how would you say what you’ve done has changed your lives?’ Jackie: It has completely changed our perspective. I think we now realise—when you go through the process, the way that we did, and the way I think a lot of expats do when they make a move like this is when we decided that we were going to come down here, we sold all of our stuff. We got rid of our car. We really shed our lives of everything extra. And now that we’ve done that, I think we realize essentially how much time and money and effort we spent on things that we really didn’t need, that didn’t really make us happy. It was more about keeping up with the status quo. And I think now that we’re in this position, we can really recognize that and see it for what it is and kind of focus on the things that do truly make us happy And then Harvey (our dog), he’s having a hard time being home right now, but I want Junior to answer that question too. Junior: Sorry. I’m trying to contain the dog. Tony: That’s all right. No problem. Jackie: For you, how has it changed your life? Junior: As Jackie said, you just realise how much stuff you had that you really don’t need; and it just becomes a matter of what it is that I want to do every day that makes me happy. For me, right now, I have to make the move; and for me, having an expensive car is not what I want. It doesn’t make me happy. I really enjoy going to the beach. We go pretty much every day. We walk our dog. We are outside every single day. I play volleyball. I play soccer. Those are the things that matter to me the most. 12 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Being here, you realize ‘oh, these things really make me happy’ and ‘that’s what matters to me’. Tony: Awesome. Guys, it’s been great speaking with you today. You are indeed inspiring expats. If people want to get hold of you, I know you got a couple of websites. If they want to know more about moving to Costa Rica and what’s involved, how do they get in touch with you? Jackie: Yeah. I started a blog just before we moved to kind of document our experience and share what we learned along the way, and the URL is DayWellLived.com. There is a contact form right on the website where people can get in touch with me, and that goes directly to my email address. People can see photos and videos and read about some of our adventures. I try to include information and facts along the way too – just about different cost-of-living things, how we are able to accomplish certain things, and kind of some of the things that we’ve talked about today just in terms of things that came up that we’re surprising or scary or funny. Lots of funny things have happened. Junior: And I would highly recommend to watch the videos about the first house we lived in. Tony: Ah, yeah. Jackie: We’ve got a tour of the house there. Tony: That’s like the warning video, isn’t it? Junior: Yeah, it certainly is. Tony: ‘If you don’t plan ahead…’ What about you, Junior? Have you got a website? January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Junior: Yes, we do have another website. It’s ExpatsKnow.com. It’s a Q&A website where expats—or if you’re looking to make a move and you have a question, you can just go in there, ask your question; and then we have other expats that go to this site every day, and they just answer the questions, and they share their knowledge. Tony: So is that just based around Costa Rica or is that general? Junior: As of now, it is just in Costa Rica. We do have plans that once the site gets to a point where we have a lot of members in Costa Rica, we already have plans to expand to other countries – and eventually, maybe the whole world. We’ll see. Tony: Global domination. Love it. It’s great, guys. We’ll post those links up on the page. You made a good point earlier on – you did your research, you got in touch with people in Costa Rica before you went, which is obviously one of the best sources of information. So these blogs and the website that you have, I can say they’re very valuable to people. Guys, thanks so much for your time today. We really appreciate talking to you. This is the first time I’ve spoken to anybody who lives in Costa Rica, and I’ve learned a few things. It sounds like an exciting place. It sounds well worth visiting. So we really appreciate your time, and thank you to both you; and I’m sure our listeners appreciate listening as well. Jackie: Thank you. Junior: Thank you. Jackie: We appreciate it too. Junior: Thank you so much. WHAT WE LEARNT FROM JACKIE AND JUNIORS INTERVIEW: 1. Check out blogs before you go. They struggled to find information from local businesses before they made the move but the expat community was a source of great help. It emphasizes the need to reach out to people in the locations where you want to go. All expats have been in the same situation and you’ll find no shortage of people ready to help you out, both online and when you arrive. 2. Your job may be more transportable than you think. Although Juniors web design work was portable Jackie expected to have to throw in her job as a public relations consultant and start fresh, but once she spoke to her bosses they discovered a way she could continue to work remotely from Costa Rica. Is your job more transportable than you think? Don’t assume you have to give up the benefits of your day job. Jackie can continue to do the work she loves but with much better hours and a far more enjoyable and warm environment. 3. Look at hubs when planning any flights you take. Jackie and Junior found they halved the cost of going to Brazil when they planned a trip from Costa Rica via Miami to what it would have been to travel directly to Brazil from Costa Rica. We regularly find the same thing in Australia when we travel in Asia – a flight routed through the relatively cheap hub of Singapore to other Asian destinations is usually cheaper than going directly from Australia to the Asian country you have in mind. 13 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Before heading out to the world Before heading out to the world make sure you have the right technology, grab your copy of make sure you have the right technology, grab your copy of HARD DRIVES HARD DRIVES By Dave Dean By Dave Dean CLICK THIS THIS LINK CLICK LINK 14 W orld Festivals December 25: Full Moon Party Koh Phangan, Thailand 10-30,000 people rock it out at the Full Moon Party in Koh Phangan ...every month! If you are in the area it will be worth a look! December 29 - 31: Rhythm and Vines Festival New Zealand Rhythm and Vines is New Zealand’s premier New Year’s Eve festival. The first festival in the world to welcome in the first sunrise of the new year. Come celebrate with friends. December 30 – January 01: Hogmanay Street Festival Edinburgh, Scotland photo credit: beautifulnow.is HARBIN INTERNATIONAL ICE & SNOW SCULPTURE FESTIVAL, CHINA Date: Starts January 5th photo credit: www.tcmf.com.au Tamworth Country Music Festival NSW Australia… 15-24 January If your boots are made for walking make sure they head to the Tamworth Country Music Festival in New South Wales, Australia. In it’s 44th year, the festival is a bustle of buskers, live shows and the famous Gold Guitar Awards…y’all come back now ya’hear! 15 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Chilled by the Siberian winter, Harbin, in northeast China, plays host to the largest ice and snow festival in the world. Starting in January and running for over a month, activities include ice slides and hacking the sculptures to pieces with ice axes at the end of the festival. SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL, USA Date: January 22 to February 1 Fancy the Movies? The Sundance Film Festival showcases its latest offerings when Independent film makers flock to this Utah town for networking and showing their films. Keep you eyes peeled for a few Hollywood stars checking it out too! TAPATI RAPA NUI, CHILE Date: January 30 to February 14, 2015 This famously isolated island is better known as Easter Island. In the traditional triathlon, local men run around the lake of the Rano Raraku volcano carrying a hand of bananas. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. MARDI GRAS, NEW ORLEANS Date: February 17 Also known as Fat Tuesday, Mardi Gras traditionally follows carnivals around the world. Parades and jazz bands mark the event in New Orleans’ French Quarter. CHINESE NEW YEAR, CHINA Date: February 19 John Shederick In each part of China, the festivities vary, but in all of them the Chinese honour their gods and ancestors. Red lanterns will be hung and firecrackers set off. Dragon processions can be seen in cities with Chinese communities around the world. photo credit: HOLI, INDIA Date: March 6 PINGXI SKY LANTERN FESTIVAL, TAIWAN Date: February 27 to March 15 16 RIO CARNIVAL, BRAZIL Date: February 13 to 17 This is Taiwan’s new year festival, when thousands of lanterns are sent into the sky. Pingxi is a small mountain village an hour from the capital of Taipei. Whoohoo! This is sooo on our bucket list! Join the crowds and get ready to party in one of the biggest, most fun parties in the world! Book tickets in advance for a grandstand view and don’t forget to get your feathers and glitter on and join in the carnival spirit! NAKED MAN FESTIVAL, JAPAN Date: February 21 BATTLE OF THE ORANGES, ITALY Date: February 14 to 17 Not too sure about this one but just so you know….The Naked Man festival in Okayama culminates in a heated onehour struggle among 9,000 men wearing only loincloths to grab two lucky sticks thrown by priests from above. The winners of the sacred sticks are guaranteed happiness for the coming year…mmmm think I would rather search for a four leaf clover! People are put into groups to throw oranges as part of a re-enactment of a Middle Age battle in an annual carnival battle in the northern Italian town of Ivrea….sounds like a juicy battle! THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Also known as the festival of colours, Holi is the religious Hindu festival which heralds the beginning of spring season and is marked by revellers throwing coloured paint at each other. photo credit: “Ivrea carnevale” by Attilios - Own work. Licensed under CC BY-SA 3.0 via Commons January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. HOW TO BUILD A TRAVEL FUND by BRENDAN LEE We need money to travel. Fact. However, you probably need less money than you think. I’ve rented apartments for $6 a day, eaten delicious food for $2 a meal and bought bottles of drinking water for 15 cents. As long as you follow the advice below, there is no reason money should stop you from travelling. T he first task of any aspiring traveler is to save a travel fund. Most world travelers I have met have similar stories of saving for two, three, maybe even five years before setting off around the globe. While it’s possible to leave home with very little money, I would never recommend it. My personal opinion is that your first trip should be about enjoying the world, not hustling for nickels and dimes. Save, prepare, and then go and enjoy your journey. It’s the best way. Saving is nothing more than a simple 3-step process: 1. Spend less money than you earn. 2. Put that money into a savings account. 3. Don’t spend it. Yet, despite its simplicity, the majority of people struggle to follow it. When the iPhone 6 comes out, we just can’t resist buying it, despite the fact that our iPhone 5 (and 4 and 3) still work perfectly. For some reason, we can’t wear the same shoes every day, and just have to buy a second and third and fourth pair. It’s no wonder none of us have any money to travel. So, how do we do it? Defining your Needs and Wants In the personal budgeting world, we separate everything we purchase into two groups: Needs and Wants. Your Needs are the things vital to your survival – things like rent, electricity, water, food, insurance, etc. Your Wants are things not vital to your survival. These include things such as Doritos, new shoes, sunglasses, and cable TV. Taking time to define these lists is important, because they will underpin your entire saving process. Every time you are about to spend money, you need to ask yourself, “Is this a Need, or a Want?” If it’s a Want, don’t buy it. Save that money instead. Sound simple? It is. Yet you’ll find it’s a concept extremely difficult to live by. Nonetheless, this mindset should be the meat and potatoes of your saving 17 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Brendan’s Top 7 ‘Save Money’ for Travel Tips 1.Set a target. As we discussed earlier, everybody’s travel style is different. 2.Split your target up into smaller goals. You need to break it down into more manageable and measurable goals. 3.Set your rewards. It’s important to pat yourself on the back every now and then. 4.Set up an offline savings account. This is a key step in avoiding the temptation to spend. You need to make it as difficult as possible to spend your money. 5.Move your “target savings” to your savings account on payday. A simle solution to prevent spending from happening is to do your savings at the beginning of the pay cycle, rather than the end. 6.Record everything you spend. This is a habit you will need to get used to. Before you spend money on anything, write it down. 7.Analyse your spending. This is probably the most important step of them all. At the end of the month, take your statement (or your notebook or your spreadsheet) and sit down with a highlighter. strategy, and if you are able to follow it, it will be practically impossible for you to not save money. Let’s take myself as an example (which, I’ve learned, is an example not different from many people on the road). I spent just over three years saving for my initial round-the-world trip. I avoided going out on Friday nights with the workmates; I didn’t buy a single new cell phone during those years; I didn’t own a smartphone or iPad; I owned one pair of work shoes, one work suit; I didn’t take many holidays; I didn’t have internet on my phone; I rarely ate out for lunch; I didn’t own any fancy clothes. For the most part, I lived within my means, and that provided me the nest egg I needed to quit and start my adventure. Despite the fact Wants give you giddy bursts of excitement when you buy them, they are, in fact, obstacles which push your travel dreams further away. People often see travelers and think, “Wow, they’re so lucky, look at how exciting their lives are!” But few realize the years of preparation that were necessary to get there: the long Monday afternoons slumped over desks, and the paychecks that were not used for Friday escapes but were boringly stuffed away into a savings account. 18 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Your adventures around the world are born long before you step on the plane. Every dollar you spend is a dollar less you will have for the road. How badly do you want to travel? I’ve found that for many people, travelling more is simply a matter of buying less stuff so you can spend that money on travel instead. This means travel must be a priority. Are you willing to give up a $4 daily Starbucks if it means you can travel? This one simple sacrifice will save you $1,500 a year. To put that in travel terms, that’s enough for six months’ rent in a private, fully furnished studio in Thailand, an entire year of hostel accommodation in South America, or twenty plane tickets around Europe. Just imagine how much you could save, and travel, if you gave up cable, Friday night drinks, your cell phone plan and your private apartment. Within a couple of years, you would surely have enough saved up to travel for several months, if not years. Internalizing this link between saving and travel is important. As you try to save, you are inevitably going to miss out on shiny things back home. Giving up your private pad to move in with roommates, spending Friday night reading instead of being out at the bar – this is not easy. Understanding that every dollar saved brings you one step closer to travelling the world is the motivation you will need when trying to resist buying the shoes. Remember, as travelers, we are minimalists. We collect moments, not things. What things will you give up to travel? How bad do you want it? If you’re serious about seeing the world, you need to make it a priority. Brendan Lee .... .... is a former accountant who knew after his first 72 hours that a desk wasn’t for him. He has spent the last 4 years traversing the globe. You can check out his travels at www.brenontheroad.com Brendan Lee January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. 19 N OT MANY PEOPLE are willing to leave suburbia, head for the jungle and run a business that gives all its profits away, but today’s guests are the exception to the rule. Andrej and Karen Brummer said goodbye to two well-paying jobs and left their western lifestyle to head for Luang Namtha , Laos 4 years ago. They swapped their big city lifestyle for an environment of jungles and temples on the edge of the Thailand border and have become an important member of their local community thanks to their western style café that not only provides training in hospitality and English for the local staff but helps fund the nearby schools in the town in which they live. We caught up with Dre and Karen and discovered what made them choose Laos as the place they wanted to spend their life, how the jungle lifestyle has changed their purpose in life and how you can use your own unique skills to enjoy an authentic lifestyle experience for free. FROM CORPORATE LIFE TO A CAFÉ IN LAOS Andrej and Karen Brummer 20 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Tony (Argyle): Hi, Dre and Karen. I better make sure I pronounce your name right because I’ll probably get that wrong, but nice to have you on the show, guys. Karen (Brummer): Thank you. Nice to be here. Andrej (Brummer): Thanks, Tony. Nice to be here. Tony: Firstly, tell us where you are right now. What’s the view from where you’re sitting and which part of the globe are you in? Andrej: We are in Northern Laos, the mountains of basically the Golden Triangle kind of between Myanmar, Thailand, and Laos; and so the view outside our door is coconut palms, mountains, trees, flowers. Tony: [Chuckles] Andrej: Yeah, it’s quite pretty actually. Tony: Sounds exotic. Andrej: Oh man. It’s simple. Tony: How come you chose Laos? Because I don’t know a lot about the country, but from what I’ve gathered, it doesn’t seem the easiest place in Southeast Asia you could have gone to; so you really sort of stepped off the cliff with this. Why Laos? 21 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Karen: [Laughs] A little bit of insanity [laughter]. No, we really fell in love with the place, and we actually travelled Southeast Asia for about a year and a half – travelling around, stopping in places that we liked, and we just keep coming back to this place. We just really, really liked it. We fell in love with the nature and the people and everything that sort of goes on here. Tony: I kind of imagine it to be like almost a step back in time as to how other parts of Southeast Asia might have been 40 years, 50 years ago? So it was kind of just a gradual progression into living here. It wasn’t like one day we made the decision to do it. It’s like we came for a month and then another month and then another month, and it kind of just turned into living [laughs]. Tony: Wow. Andrej: It’s kind of like the place in Southeast Asia where you can really get off the beaten track, where you can take a motorbike or a bicycle and go and visit 7 different minority tribes. They all have different costumes and different ways of living, and everyone kind of welcomes you like a family member. There’s rice paddies and mountains and forests to explore in. It’s really beautiful, and the people are like very, very, very nice, very giving. The climate’s amazing too. Karen: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It’s pretty rustic, yeah. [Laughs] Andrej: They say it’s like Thailand 50 to 100 years ago. Karen: Yeah. Andrej: Our manager in the shop just got electricity in her village three weeks ago for the first time ever. Tony: So you guys obviously don’t mind roughing it too much. Andrej: Well, that’s the amazing thing. You don’t actually have to rough it, because in the middle of the small city, you can still get super fast Wi-Fi, nice hotels, good restaurants; and so that’s all there in a tiny little centre; but even a kilometre away from the centre, people are living in bamboo houses and foraging in the jungle and stuff like that. So it’s kind of like the best of both worlds amassed. Karen: Yeah. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Tony: It sounds like a real contradiction. Karen: Yeah. We sort of got the comforts of coffee, pizza, a big, 4-bedroom house and stuff. Andrej: Cocktails. Karen: [Laughter] And then you just, literally, 3 or 4 minutes away is just an ocean of rice field and mountains and stuff. So yes… yeah, it is the best of both worlds for us. Tony: It’s interesting what you said before. You’d been there for a few times beforehand. I think that’s obviously something that’s a pretty important step for people to take rather than committing to a country that they’ve not been to before. Karen: Yeah, absolutely. Andrej: Yeah, definitely. Karen: Yeah. I mean I know one time, maybe the second or third time we were here, I was talking to my mum on the phone and she said, ‘Are you guys going to stay there?’ I was like, ‘No.’ [Laughter] But then it happened [laughter]. 22 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Tony: Just didn’t want to break the bad news to her, did you? Karen: [Laughs] Well, we didn’t think we were, at that point. We didn’t realise how sucked into the place we were getting. Tony: So how long have you been there for now? Andrej: Basically 4 years, haven’t we? move, but this is our base. Tony: Okay. And the reason for your travel, is just as part of your exploring that you’re doing or is it Visa reasons or…? Karen: Oh, no. Just for fun. Andrej: Yeah, just for fun. Tony: That’s the great thing about Asia too. I mean you can get around there so cheap. It staggers me how affordable airline flights are once you get to Asia as your base, and you can go elsewhere, we isn’t it? We just decided that didn’t really want to live the life anymore that had sort of been sold to us Karen: Ah, yeah. Absolutely. Andrej: And there’s such a huge diversity like volcanoes, coral reefs, forests, amazing cities. There’s everything like in a short distance. And all the countries are so different, so it’s amazing – a melting pot. Karen Brummer Karen: Yeah, 4 and a half years. Andrej: Four and a half. Karen: Yeah. Andrej: We kind of spent 3 weeks of the month in Laos and then 1 week in Thailand and then visit other places like Philippines and Borneo and Malaysia and stuff like that – so constantly on the Tony: Okay. So in terms of where you guys are out there, and obviously it sort of sounds as though you reached the point where you just decided you’d had enough. Is it sort of how it worked out for you? January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Karen: Yeah. We just decided that we didn’t really want to live the life anymore that had sort of been sold to us. You grow up, and you’re taught to go to school, get a job, work for your whole life; and maybe if you’re lucky, you get a couple of weeks a year off. We just thought there had to be a better way, and we didn’t want to do that anymore. We just got sick of it really. Tony: So no regrets so far? Karen: Oh, not at all. Tony: So, tell us what you’re doing there now, because I’m quite fascinated. Basically, you have a café that you’ve set up, but none of the profits are kept for yourself. Is that right? Karen: Yeah. A few months after being in Louang Namtha, we set up a training restaurant where… We sort of became known in the town as the Kiwis who were here; so we used to get a lot of tourists approaching us, and the question they all asked was ‘where can we get Western food?’ and our answer was always ‘nowhere’. So we thought, ‘Well there’s an opportunity.’ So we decided to, yeah, to set up a restaurant; and we 23 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 The Bamboo Lounge Restaurant…Karen & Andrej’s café in Luang Namtha, is the only western hospitality training restaurant in town. The staff also love learning English here. take local women from the ethnic minority tribes, and we teach them everything they need to know. When they came to us, they don’t speak English. They’ve never made a sandwich before. They’ve never seen a pizza before. They’ve never even seen a knife and fork before usually. I mean they literally come from out of the jungle. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Some of the local Children from the school 24 And yeah… I mean a couple of years of really hard work for that, but now, it’s sort of all systemised to the point where our most experienced staff member runs the place. She manages all the staff and the customers. She does everything. She does the salaries and everything, trains the new staff. I mean most of the staff who are there now have been there like a few years because it is a really good workplace for Lao. Tony: Wow. So how big is the café, like how many staff do you have there? And then we donate the profits from the restaurant to the local Books in Schools Program, so at the moment—well, before we started it, there was about one text book per three students in the school; and so far, a few of the schools now are fully stocked with textbooks, and we’re working on doing more – as we speak actually. Tony: Okay. So this is obviously a reasonably busy place as a lot of Westerners come through? THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Karen: We’ve got six staff at this time of the year. At the busy time of the year— Andrej: High season, we’ve got 12. Karen: Yeah. It’s usually about 10 staff in the high season. And it sits about 35 or 40 people in the restaurant. Karen: Yeah. In the high season, pretty much all those seats are full every day. At this time of the year, it’s a lot more quiet and chilled out; but there are still people coming through. Andrej: It’s because it is like a big trekking mecca. It’s like we have a massive, massive national protected areas; so this is a really good place that people can come and trek into the Lao jungle and the primary forest and go and stay at different minority tribes. So it’s a very big ecotourism magnet, and that’s kind of one of the reasons why we’re here as well. Tony: Oh, okay. So in terms of economic impact you’re having, can you sort of put that in context? How much money does the café make a year, and how far does that spending go? You’re talking about more than a few textbooks. How many schools are you supporting, and relatively speaking, how much money is it putting back into the community? January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. here now with you than I do in the entire week at school, because our staff can actually speak English better than their teachers. Tony: That’s cool. That’s cool. You’re just affecting things at so many levels. That’s great to hear. So obviously, that leads to the question, if you’re giving the café profits away, how are you guys feeding yourselves? What do you do to earn your living while you’re there? Swimming with Whale Sharks in the Philippines. Karen: Oh. Well, it’s different every year. We’ve got about 10 schools at the moment that we’re giving textbooks to. We’re also working with the schools to get things like desks and chairs because a lot of the kids are just sitting on the dirt floor at school, and getting things like chalk and whiteboard markers for the teachers, stuff that we just consider in the West being the most basic of necessities that they just don’t have. I mean the most recent thing we’ve done is we’ve just put about $5,000 into a few of the different schools. But I mean… it’s kind of like a multi-facet question [laughing] because all of the staff, they support their whole villages usually. It’s not just 25 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 their salary for themselves. It’s their salary for their families and usually their villages as well, so it’s… yeah. Andrej: Yeah, our staff are some of the highest paid people in the area. Karen: Yeah [chuckles]. Tony: Right. So it’s not just economic impact of your profit. It’s the jobs as well, etc. that’s going to make a big difference to things. Andrej: Basically, we’re the only place in town that teaches hospitality training and it’s English. Our staff spend all day at school, at vocation and college, and they come and spend time with us and say, ‘Oh I learn so much more in Karen: We’ve got a couple of online businesses, so we make our money on the internet. Tony: Okay. Do tell more [chuckles]. Karen: Do you want to talk about Saltwater? Andrej: Yeah. Well, like… how many years ago now? Karen: Eight. Andrej: Eight years ago, yeah, Andrew and Daryl Grant, who are fantastic people, I turned up to a seminar of theirs and kind of learned a little bit about their e-book model and just how to find a niche online and how to build an information product and how to sell it. And so I kind of started doing that and came out with a couple of different e-books. My most successful January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. quite a following on that now as well. Tony: Okay. So basically, if you got a skill set and you want to travel overseas but don’t want to spend the money staying, you can trade your skill set when you’re there and basically work on the location and have a working holiday. Karen: Yeah, exactly. I mean it works— Andrej: It’s very rewarding too. Karen in ‘the office niche was saltwater aquarium. Now I think I have… how many e-books for that? Karen: Eight. Andrej: Eight different ebooks with different aspects of coral keeping and setting up saltwater aquariums and providing the perfect environment, and so I sell those. It’s just one of the many things that we do, isn’t it? Karen: Yeah [laughs]. One of the other things we do is a website called Swap Work for Travel. When we first came to Luang Namtha, one of the first things we did was we helped a lot of the local businesses just for free, 26 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 just for fun; and as we grow our business, we started to tap into a network of travellers who wanted to help other businesses like ours for free if we gave them food and accommodation. So basically, we take care of all their living expenses and they take care of whatever we need doing in the business. As that kind of grew and grew, we started a website, Swap Work for Travel, where we now provide a service for travellers who want to make a difference with businesses who need someone to come and make a difference in their business but can provide food and accommodation in exchange. So yeah, we got Karen: Yeah, and it works quite well because usually like 5 hours a day, and the people work for 5 days a week; so if you start at 8:00, you finish by 1:00. You’ve got the whole afternoon and evening to kind of explore a destination or hang out with people or do whatever you want to do. So it’s kind of like the best of both worlds. You get to experience the destination through the eyes of a local really because you’re there usually a bit longer term than just a few days or whatever. And then you also get to make a difference someway and start to feel good factor as well. Andrej: Yeah. And some places are quite fancy. We recently went to Philippines and stayed in a place in Bohol. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. The woman who owned the big apartment building wanted a website built; so Karen helped her with that, and we got to stay in a fully-furnished, brand-new apartment that had a pool. It was amazing, a beautiful place to be. Karen: Yeah [laughing]. Andrej: It was fun. Karen: Yeah. Some of them are really nice. Tony: So this is obviously an international site when I’m just talking about Laos here. So people from any country could employ people to come. People from any country can go anywhere pretty much. Is that right? Karen: Yeah, that’s right. Tony: Cool. Coming back to the cost of living, because obviously, what you need to earn will depend on where you are and what it costs; but what does it cost you guys typically per month to live in Laos? Karen: Again, it’s kind of a curving question because actually, when we live in Laos, it doesn’t cost us anything because the restaurant pays for the rent and for the house that we live in because we share it with a couple of the staff—they live downstairs; 27 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 we live upstairs—so the restaurant pays for that. We eat at the restaurant every day. So actually, if we’re really extravagant, we can usually spend $100 in total in a month [laughs]. But in the real world, when we’re in Thailand, or for example if you rented our house, the cost of renting our 4-bedroom house which has got a big garden and it’s looking onto the palm trees and mountains and stuff, it’s about $2,000 a year. Tony: $2,000? Karen: Yeah [chuckles]. So a couple of hundred dollars a month for rent. And then… yeah. I mean when we’re out and about, we usually spend sort of $1,000 to a couple of thousand dollars a month when we’re travelling, don’t we? Andrej: Yeah. To eat in Laos, it’d probably be $10 a day maximum. You’d struggle to eat and drink enough beers to spend more than that. Karen: Yeah. Tony: Well, that’s a really important question, Dre. What’s a beer cost? Karen: About $1.50, $2.00. Andrej: $1.50 for a longneck. Tony: About $1.50 to $2.00 for a beer. Andrej: For a longneck. Tony: For a longneck, okay. That sounds like a place to go and drink. So obviously, what you’re doing, you’ve taken a fairly large plunge with it. What fears and concerns did you have beforehand and have those come to fruition? Andrej: Well, it was sort of like ‘could we make it work? Could we really quit our jobs and then spend the rest of our lives travelling and get enough money to do so without having to go back to our jobs?’ And we always knew that if worse came to worst, we could go back to our jobs; but that obviously didn’t happen, so we must be doing something right. Tony: So had you spent a bit of time building up the Saltwater Aquarium business before you took the leap or did that come afterwards? Andrej: Yeah. We’ve changed the business model a few times; but the thing is, being in a place like this without the confines of work, you got a lot more time to spend on other things and new projects. So it’s quite fun to tweak things and play around with things. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. But yeah, it was built up, and many things changed; and so we changed the model of the site and the model of the business around it as well. Tony: And I guess sometimes too, it’s the old story. When you burn your bridges behind you, you kind of got a force forward; and if you’re still doing what you were doing before and then just dabbling in it—you maybe didn’t commit the same—but on this basis, an online business, you got to go for it fullon, haven’t you? Andrej: Yeah. Karen: Exactly. Yeah, you got to put your faith in yourself and you got to just go for it and do it. Tony: So what are your plans long term? Are you planning to continue your stay in there or have you got plans to move on? Karen: Yeah, I mean this year, we’ve only spent a few months in Laos. We probably spent about 4 or 5 months travelling so far, like around Philippines, Borneo, Malaysia, Thailand, Myanmar; but moving forward, we’ll probably just spend like a few months a year in Laos, and we want to spend a few more months a year in New Zealand because we’re missing our families quite a lot too. We’ve been going home for about a month or two every year; but now, we’re starting to feel like maybe we need a bit more. So spending a few months in New Zealand, maybe a couple of months in Laos and a couple of months travelling. Tony: Okay. Karen: Yeah. Tony: Cool. Healthcare is obviously a big issue and a lot of people have a concern they have. And I know you’ve had a couple of incidents yourself. What’s the healthcare like in Laos? I mean is it something people need to be concerned about? Karen: [laughter]. [Laughs] Yes Tony: Thank you for your honesty [chuckles]. Karen: Yeah. We live near Thailand. That’s our saving grace. I mean in Thailand, everything is world-class and cheap and… Andrej: The healthcare in Thailand is American standard. Karen & Andrej spend a few months a year travelling around SE Asia – 4 Rivers Floating Lodge, Cambodia 28 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Karen: Yeah. Or better even really. In Laos, they really don’t have the education to really provide good healthcare; and it’s not the doctor’s fault. It’s literally just that they don’t have the education. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Andrej: Or the equipment. Karen: Yeah. So anything… Andrej: So minor scrapes and bruises and like illnesses and stuff, you can go to the hospital here, but anything more severe, you would definitely go to Thailand. Karen: Yeah. So we’re only like 3 hours from Thailand, 3 and a half hours. So it’s not a huge deal for us. Tony: So generally, if you get to a bigger centre, you’ll find slightly better healthcare; but obviously in Laos, you’re better off to get across the border. Andrej: Yeah. I think Luang Prabang has got some pretty good clinics as Vientiane, but Thailand is really good. Karen: Yeah. Andrej: Everyone’s happy and honest. Karen: Yeah. That’s a really good point. Andrej: Very safe place with children and single women, and everyone’s really caring and loving. It’s amazing. Tony: So do you have any trouble with communication with people? Because I guess that can be the source The Main Drag…Luang Namtha Tony: So how big is the population of where you live? Tony: What about safety? Do you feel safe living there? Karen: Well, it’s about 20,000, but that includes all the people who live in the jungle, so. Karen: Oh, absolutely. Tony: Oh okay. Karen: Yeah. I mean actually, this is basically a crimefree country. There’s no like theft or murders or anything like that. Karen: Yeah. 29 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Andrej: Much, much safer than Australia. of issues from time to time. I mean it’s obviously a whole new language. Have you mastered it since you’ve been there or do you find that more people are learning English and you don’t have to? Karen: Oh, we have to speak Laos here. The first couple of years were pretty interesting because everybody we January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. were teaching couldn’t speak any English and we couldn’t speak any Laos, so that was a big learning curve. Andrej: It’s pretty much like Thai. requirements? What’s the restrictions on that? Karen: Yeah. Andrej: Everyone wants to learn English as well, so we spend most of our time teaching people to speak more English. So our Laos doesn’t really get that much better because everyone wants to practice English with us. Andrej: It’s tonal. Yeah, their tones are pretty hard. It’s like the word ‘cat’ has five different meanings related to the tone; and most of the time, I can’t even hear the difference. Karen: We’re pretty lucky in Laos with the Visas, like we have like one year Visas that we just renew every year, and we don’t have to leave every year. I mean we do anyways—we travel—but we don’t have to. Karen: Yeah, but we speak enough Laos to have conversations; and I couldn’t talk to anyone about politics or anything, but all the basic stuff we’ve got mastered. Tony: Okay. Is it a hard language to learn? Karen: Ah, yeah, pretty much. Karen: Yeah [laughs]. Tony: Okay. And being outside of your home country, have you had to give up anything in terms of your pension status or Medicare benefits or superannuation benefits? I guess hand-in-hand with that, do you have to leave the country on a regular basis because of these In terms of super and Medicare and stuff, our super accounts are still just sitting there in Australia. Medicare, I can’t remember exactly how that works now. But I think once we’ve been gone for like 2 years or something, then it got cancelled; but it can be reactivated if we go back to Australia. A favourite spot…. 30 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Tony: Okay. Karen: Yeah. Tony: So not really losing any benefits from your experience. You can pretty much return at any stage and hopefully pick up where you left off? Karen: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I mean that’s the thing with healthcare too that I should have said. It’s like if something really major happened and you wanted to go home, you just get on a plane, don’t you? And you’re always going to be treated for stuff in your home country. Tony: Yup, true. So, I guess some of the food you have there might be fairly interesting. What’s the most interesting thing you’ve eaten? Karen: [Laughs] Andrej: Giant rhinoceros beetles stuffed with lemon grass and chilli. [Laughter] Tony: Well, I like lemon grass and chilli, but I don’t know about the first thing you said. Karen: Actually, they’re really good! [Laughs] Surprisingly good. Tony: Are you going to tell me it tastes like chicken I suppose, are you? 31 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Andrej: actually. They’re tasty Karen: Well it just tastes pretty much like lemon grass. Tony: [Laughs] Was it crunchy? Andrej: No, because they take their wing cases off. Karen: Yeah. Tony: Aw, that’s thoughtful of them [chuckles]. Andrej: And bats on a skewer, like barbecued bats, silk worm omelette, ant eggs or ant egg salad. Karen: You had made a few crazy pizzas for people with ant eggs and rats and things like that. Karen: We haven’t eaten that either. We’ve just had customer requests in our restaurant for it [laughs]. Tony: Really? Okay. So I can see why you set up a Westerner style café, because a lot of people travelling through would struggle to cope with a lot of these meals. Andrej: Especially after a 3-day trek in the jungle. Karen: Yeah. Tony: So what do you miss most about being away from Australia and New Zealand? Andrej: Probably the ocean. Andrej: It’s a different kind of rat. It’s bamboo rat, which is kind of like a giant hamster. Karen: The Ocean, friends and family. Sometimes, we miss normality, which we do get in Thailand quite a lot; but life here is so different that, 99% of the time, it’s absolutely awesome and a load of fun. And then sometimes, you’re like, ‘Oh my god. I just wish like I could have a normal conversation with someone about something that everybody understands.’ [Chuckles] Tony: Ah, okay. [Laughs] That doesn’t sound much better [laughter]. I’m glad it’s your stomach, not mine anyway. Andrej: But pretty much between here and Thailand, we can get everything we had back home; so we almost lacked nothing, like Andrej: Lots of people in town eat dog, but really, we couldn’t eat any dog. Tony: But you’ve eaten rat? Karen: No. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Karen: We’re pretty lucky. Andrej: It’s all good. But we watch movies and stuff all the time. I always Skype and video calls; and most of the time, it’s really, really good. Tony: Oh, I didn’t ask you if you’re missing those things. That’s what most people say that they miss. Tony: So even on the worst day, do you see yourself ever going back to doing what you’re doing before? Karen: Yeah, and I don’t miss those [laughs]. Karen: No [laughs]. people send us marmite and vegemite over, and that’s it. That’s all we need. Tony: So obviously, with modern technology, I mean home’s really a Skype call away; but how do you find the internet? We’ve had a couple of dropouts during this call. Was it a bit of an issue there or is it generally pretty good? Andrej: It’s generally pretty good. Andrej: Yeah, I don’t know if we’d go anymore. Life is just too… too relaxing these days. Tony: And obviously what you’re doing is perfectly sustainable. I mean health allowing, you can continue to do this for years if you want to. Karen: Yeah. Andrej: Yeah, exactly. Well, we have a restaurant that runs by itself, and that pays for us to be in Laos. And our internet business kind of gives us pocket money to travel anywhere we want and do whatever we want. So it’s pretty good. Tony: It does sound pretty good. So final questions, how would you say what you’ve done has changed your life? What would you say to someone considering what you’re doing? Karen: Oh, just do it. It’s changed our lives so much for the better, like just so many… I actually pinch myself honestly nearly every day. We go up to the temple in the morning and look at Karen: Generally, it’s good, yeah. I mean we do have occasional days where it just doesn’t work or there’s no power or something; but most of the time, it’s really good. Andrej: Yeah. We get like the best package. Our internet service provider, they’re just a phone call away; and so anytime we have a problem, we’d call them; and they come over immediately because they want to take care of us because we’re foreigners and stuff. Karen: [Laughs] 32 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 “It might be 11am on a Monday, and I don’t even know it because it doesn’t matter” says Karen January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. There’s no stress, and we’re also in a very lucky position which we call like a ‘win-win-win’ Andrej Brummer the view and just think, ‘Oh my god. I’m here. I’m living this life.’ It might be 11:00 on a Monday, and I don’t even know it because it doesn’t matter. I’m not worried about going to work. It’s so good. Andrej: There’s no stress, and we’re also in a very lucky position which we call like a win-win-win. We get to be here and live this really cool life. We also get to help and empower Lao people and teach them. And then also, Western travellers who want information or want some good-quality Western food or coffee or espresso or something like that, they win as well. So it’s basically like the perfect scenario. Tony: You use the term ‘lucky’ there, but you’ve made your own luck. I mean you’ve created this situation by your 33 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 own choice; and what you’ve done with the café, what you’ve done with your websites, you’ve created that environment. You were willing to make the leap, which a lot of people are afraid to do. And you’ve worked hard setting up what you did. I don’t envy you with the cafe. That must have been a lot of hard work trying to teach people something totally different. They don’t even speak English. Karen: Oh, yeah. There were some days we’re just like, ‘Oh my god. What are we doing?’ But that was all fun. If it wasn’t fun, we wouldn’t have kept doing it. So yeah, we did work—have worked really, really hard, but we are reaping the rewards now. It’s good. Tony: Great. Guys, thank you for your time. You are both indeed inspiring expats. If people want to get a hold of you or find out more about, well, saltwater fish even or swapping work for travel, how do they get a hold of you? Karen: Well that can go to our website, SwapWorkforTravel. com. Andrej: Facebook. Find us on Karen: Yeah, look us up on Facebook. Andrej: Also SwapWorkforTravel.com. Karen: Yup. Or you can email us on support@ SwapWorkforTravel.com. Yeah. Tony: Sounds good. Well, we’ll post those links up on the page with this podcast as well so people can get a hold of you through that. Karen: Oh, thank you! Andrej: Awesome. Tony: Guys, thank you very much. It’s been a real pleasure talking to you today, and I know that your story is particularly fascinating. I’ve been looking forward to interviewing you guys ever since we set this up, particularly because of what you do, where you’re doing it, and also the contribution you’re making back to society, which is obviously a great source of satisfaction for you. Thanks for taking the time today. We appreciate it, and I know our listeners do as well. Andrej: Sure. Karen: calling! Great. Thanks for January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. WHAT I LEARNED FROM DRE AND KAREN’S INTERVIEW: 1. It’s good to spend time somewhere before you commit. Laos is a big jump for many people and is not a decision that should be made lightly. Karen and Andrej spent quite a bit of time there, visiting more than once before they made their final decision to shift. 2. You can have the best of both worlds. Although they are living near a jungle in Laos they are only just across the border from the relative civilization of Thailand. This gives them the chance to return to a less primitive lifestyle and also access to better quality healthcare – something that’s not so easily available in Laos. Plus they can (and have) easily traveled through much of South East Asia from their base 3. Although Laos can be described as a step back in time these guys aren’t roughing it. They live in a comfortable home, have access to western food and pretty reliable internet. Laos is one of the most affordable places in Asia (try less than $2000 per annum for a 4 bedroom home!) and is a country with virtually no crime – far safer than anywhere in the west that’s for sure! Thailand introduces new Multiple Entry Visa for Tourists The Bangkok Post recently reported that the Thai government will be introducing new multiple entry visas for tourists allowing visitors to come and go more frequently during the period of their visa stay. The new visas come into effect in November but still limit stayers to no more than 60 consecutive days at a time. It does however give stayers a greater opportunity to come and go during the 6 months validity of the visa, an upgrade from the option of one or three entries under current visas. The restriction of 60 days is designed to prevent visitors from effectively residing during the 6 month period of the visa. Thailand is targeting increased visitor numbers, hoping to increase tourist numbers to 28 million per annum from the current 24 million figure. 34 Do you ever just wanna go and get away from everything? Learn how to #SwapWorkForTravel , you can get our free guide here that tells you how: SwapWorkForTravel.com/freegift 35 HAVE OUTSOURCERS WILL TRAVEL: WHY BUILDING AN ONLINE BUSINESS DOESN’T MEAN HAVING TO DO IT YOURSELF by SAM PATTON The world is a global village - we’ve bridged continents and cultures to bring about a marketplace where you as a business owner can get any task you want done. Whether it’s an article you want written for your paper, an app designed for your business or marketing to lead customers to your services, somebody somewhere can get it done for you. 36 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 One of the easiest ways to tap into this global marketplace is via marketplace outsourcing websites such as Upwork, Freelancer or Fiverr. Let me give you a rundown of how they work and how you can use them to grow your business. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. HOW THE MARKETPLACE OUTSOURCING WEBSITES WORK At the basic level - these websites provide a platform where freelancers and those providing work can meet. There’s two main methods for getting stuff done; you can post a job description and have freelancers offer a bid to do the work, or you can browse the applications of freelancers and send them a job directly. The great part about marketplace websites is that you can access the previous ratings and the work history of the freelancers before you settle on a contract. That way, you can see how other employers have rated them and get a rough idea of what you’re getting yourself into. Once you’ve identified a freelancer, you can negotiate the price of the job. It’s obvious - outsourcing has the ability to save some serious costs by leveraging the global economy, but that shouldn’t be your primary motivation. Generally speaking, if you’re hiring a highly rated worker, you can expect to cough up more cash - however, if the quality is a cut above - that may not be a bad idea. Projects are usually done on a contract or price-per-hour basis - it depends on you who you’re hiring. Most marketplace websites have some form of Escrow system to release payments are completed when work is complete and approved - a bit of extra security when you’re dealing with people across the seaboard. ARE THEY RELIABLE? A common question I’m asked when talking about marketplace outsourcing websites is “are they reliable”. Not to jump immediately for the politician’s response but the answer is “it depends”. 37 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 GOOD TRACK RECORD If you find a good service provider with a good track record then generally speaking, you’ll be fine. If you don’t do your due diligence and pick up the first person you see then you may be in for a world of hurt. One thing to realize is that these websites don’t guarantee the quality of work, how fast it’s done, or even how much will be agreed for payments for projects. They simply provide the infrastructure for you to work together. The other side of this is that the websites also pocket a portion of payments paid, (somewhere in the realm of 10-15%) of the total cost. Each site is different, but the general principles are the same. FLEXIBILITY FOR YOUR BUSINESS A feature of marketplace outsourcing is that you only have to hire people when you actually need them. If you’re in a growth phase in your business then you may need somebody full time (in which case I’d recommend against marketplace outsourcing), but for one-off tasks or individual projects these are a great tool in your tool belt. In addition, you can tap into top quality freelancers from around the world at lower rates than what you’d expect to pay if you outsourced local. RUN YOUR SMALL BUSINESS LIKE A MINI-NATIONAL COMPANY It’s no secret - most businesses outsource at least some part of their work. In fact, outsourcing is no longer just a temporary solution to a shortterm problem - it’s a permanent fixture in most organizations. Using Elance as an example, there’s over 30,000 new projects posted each month. Does that sound like an industry that’s going anywhere? Make sure you’re slow to hire and quick to fire. These marketplace outsourcing sites bring everyone together - from graphic designers, writers, artists, editors, IT professionals, photographers, web developers and even marketing and media professionals. You can have different aspects of your business done in Europe, Asia, Australia, US and even back home (wherever you are). Of course it’s a cost effective approach, but make sure you’re careful with whoever you tap to get into contract with. Sure, you may reject a project and not pay for it, but there’s a time cost for choosing incorrectly. Sam Patton .... “Preferring to travel most of the year, SAM PATTON is a Digital Strategist, Outsourcing Expert and Free-Time Enthusiast. When he’s not online, you’ll find him at the beach (or on his skateboard). Get more articles like this one at SaveTimeOutsourcing.com” Sam Patton January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Click here and discover a whole new world Get each issue of the Expat Chat Magazine, direct to you inbox EVERY MONTH $US69 ONLY $US47 FOR 12 ISSUES (introductory offer for a limited time) Over 60 pages every month jam packed with inspirational and up-to-the-minute world travel information from Expats and Expert Travel Bloggers from around the globe Click here to find out more 38 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. 20 THINGS I LOVE ABOUT CHIANG MAI by DIANA EDELMAN A lot can happen in two years. And, there are plenty of lessons I’ve learned as those 24 months have come and gone and left me, standing here, marveling at how quickly time passes. At how much life morphs and grows and condenses and grows again. It’s been two years of ups, two years of downs, and two years of sheer beauty in a place that draws awe from those who come in contact with it. Life as an expat in Chiang Mai is not always easy. I’d be lying if I said there weren’t times where I have come home, crawled into bed and had a good cry. I’d be lying if I said there aren’t struggles. Living in a foreign country and not speaking the language (although I can get by), not having my own transportation, not knowing anyone when I arrived, definitely has its challenges. 39 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 November 2015 All Rights Reserved. In the two years here, I have made some of the best friends in the world. Friends who don’t even live here anymore, but friends who came into my life and never left. Thanks to the internet, its easy to stay connected. And, regardless of distance, these friends have a hold of my heart. But those friendships have also proved some of the most challenging times for me here, because when these friends left, my life changed. It’s a roller coaster of relationships here. Being a city where people come and go so quickly, the revolving door of people I love, well, revolves. And, waking up to a city where just yesterday there was a support group to a morning when there isn’t one is incredibly difficult. But, it also forces me to meet other people. To get to know myself better, so that’s ok. I get a lot of questions about life as an expat, so if you have questions about what it is like living in Chiang Mai, please feel free to leave it in the comments. I will be putting together a post later to answer your questions. Today, to celebrate my two-year anniversary, I want to share what it is I am grateful for. The things that chase away the expat funk and take me back to this beautiful world. What it is about this city, this life, that makes it just so damn amazing. And perhaps to inspire you to head to Chiang Mai (or tour through Thailand in general), if for nothing else, than at least a visit and a fruit shake with me! 1 I live in a city surrounded by a moat On days when I start to feel down, the solution (aside from going home and having the ‘pity party’, which doesn’t make me feel better and almost always results in pathetic e-mails to my mom) is to go put on some shoes and walk the three minutes to the moat. There is nothing like putting my life here in perspective than just standing, walking around this ancient moat. 2 My neighborhood is like “Cheers” but with more people Sometimes, I yearn for privacy. To walk down the street and not know anyone. But, as I have mentioned before, the expats here — love them or not — are a family. At least in my neck of the woods. We all look out for each other. We all care about each other. There is something so heartwarming about walking down the street (even on days when I feel antisocial) and having people wave and smile and ask how you are doing, and mean it. On my worst days, I have people here who will stop, make sure I am ok, and then make sure again. Just because. We’re all in this together. 40 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 3 A bottle of water is around 20 cents For 14 baht, I can get a liter of water. It is always one of the top reasons I give for never being able to go and live in America again. I can’t fathom spending more than that. 4 Elephants Life with elephants is something I wish every person could experience at least once. I learn so much from them. To be at Elephant Nature Park regularly, to sit and watch these creatures whose lives used to be horrific, and see them now, happy, is one of the most beautiful and moving things in the world. The fact that I can go there and be with them, observe them, love them, is one of the most healing things for the soul. 5 head to the dog runs and spend time in one of the runs with my favorite pups, including Moshe, a one-eyed boy from the Bangkok floods. 6 Cats I first met Mr. Lucky on my third day as an expat in Thailand. This tiny kitten, dying on the street, stole my heart. Today, he and I have a lovely little partnership. He moved in with me a little more than a year ago, and there are nights when he and I just sit together, cuddling, grateful for each other. At least that is my human emotions projected onto him have decided. With him and my other girl, Penelope, we’ve got this adorable little family. 7 Jungle beauty I cannot escape the tropics here. The jungle and all of its beauty is around me, always. While the palm trees are reminiscent of my Vegas life, that’s it. The flora, the fauna, the humidity, quickly move me and remind me where I am and why I am here. I love the days when I am walking somewhere and the scent of flowers wraps around me. And don’t even get me started on the massive, beautiful trees. The roots, the intertwining of the body, wrapping itself around each other … breathtaking stuff, I tell ya. Dogs My office is home to about 10 dogs. The park is home to about 500 (note: if you’d love dogs, Elephant Nature Park Dogs is always in need of volunteers). Like with the elephants, being around these pups just makes any day better. When I go and visit ENP, I always January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. 13 8 Mountains Geography, in general, is sexy, and I cannot get enough of natural beauty. The mountains here — so long as it is not burning season when they are cloaked by a yellowgray haze — are stunning. Crisp and green during rainy season, thick clouds hanging over them as monsoons roll into town. Love. 9 Proximity to the airport, and then BKK isn’t so far away either I could walk to the airport if I wanted to. Seriously. It is that close. With killer deals to other parts of SE Asia and beyond, thanks to budget airlines like Air Asia and Nok Air, it makes impromptu trips a breeze. Plus, Bangkok is a quick hour flight so when the need for hustle and bustle strikes (which is rare for me since I love my laid-back city so much more than the crowded capital), it can be arranged. 10 11 The creative atmosphere here, thanks to the abundance of digital nomads There is nothing I love more than calling up my friends and having weekend work parties at coffee shops. There is a huge digital nomad scene in Chiang Mai and a large support system which has been created to encourage meetings, mingles and more. 12 I can walk anywhere I want to go Up until a few days ago, this was a major plus for me. Then, I totally bit it and totally hurt my tender ligaments in my ankle. When the doctor told me to stay off my foot and not walk for a few weeks, I burst into tears. Chiang Mai is incredibly walkable and there is nothing I love more than just putting on my sneakers, popping in my headphones and wandering. So, while I normally can walk anywhere, right now, I cannot. But, once my ankle is healed, it is Game On. The gym is cheap Generally, the cost of living in Chiang Mai is far lower than the western world. For a one-year gym membership, I am set back 9,500 baht (approx. US$266). My personal trainer costs around 600 baht (approx. US$17) a session. Sure, the equipment isn’t always the best, but I get to work out for cheap, have a trainer and get into some great shape for far less than I would back in America. 14 Food is cheap 30 baht noodle soup (under US$1). Sushi dinners for under 500 baht (approx. US$14). Fruit shakes for 20 baht. I can eat well (and deliciously) and not have it break the bank. A definite bonus when trying to save up those pennies. 15 Rainy season Coming from the desert, where I only get to enjoy rain a few days out of the year to Chiang Mai, where there is an entire season, scared me at first. I didn’t know how I was going to react to clouds and rain and wet. But, I love it. Absolutely love it. Those humid, sticky days that turn to thick evenings that lead to gorgeous thunderstorms that shake my little teak house just make me feel alive.Rainy season is, by far, my favorite time of year. The constant flowing in of friends I don’t like the exit of friends, but it is pretty safe to say that when someone leaves, a new person comes in. Or an old person comes back. The revolving door of Chiang Mai expats constantly keeps me on my toes, albeit the “see you soon’s” definitely get old. 41 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. 16 Winter season There is a tiny part of the year where the temperatures drop and layers are needed. In my old world, that would be called Autumn. But here, it is winter. And, thanks to that thin jungle blood, those autumn temperatures render me freezing and elated to don hats and gloves. Even if it is only for a few weeks. The air is crisp, the days are short, and I just want to watch a football game and drink a Bloody Mary. I don’t. But, still … winter in Chiang Mai is just bliss. 17 Health care The stupid ankle injury last week required me to report to the hospital to get an X-ray. So, off I went to the western hospital in town, Chiang Mai Ram. I was quickly placed through triage, met with a doctor, X-rayed, then met with the doctor again to find out what was wrong. After that, I was brought to the cashier, then the pharmacy to get my medicine. The entire visit cost me 1,400 baht. I was in an out in one hour. Last year, I had to get a medical checkup for my work permit. A full work up of my blood and a doctor visit cost me under 3,000 baht. I went to the dentist for a deep cleaning. The cost? 1,500 baht. It boggles my mind how inexpensive medical visits are here. Although, I should mention when the doctor told me I could get an air cast for my ankle if I wanted to, he also said the cost was pretty ridiculous: 15,000 baht. Of course, I passed. 18 Massages Every street has a massage shop. I’ve found my favorites in town (and will be telling you all about them) and try to make it in for a head/neck/back/ shoulder/arm massage at least once a week. For 200 baht for 60 minutes, I really should be going more. 19 Incense I know this is kind of weird to put on my list, but I love how Nag Champa floats through the air in he mornings when everyone makes their offers to their spirit houses. It reminds me I am in Thailand, in another world. 20 Culture The wats. The holidays. The monks. The smiles. All around me, the beautiful Thai culture thumps and pulses. It is intoxicating and inspiring and unlike anything I have ever experienced in my old life. Diana Edelman .... ...recently lived in Chiang Mai, Thailand and volunteered full-time for Save Elephant Foundation, an organization dedicated to rescuing Asian elephants and educating travelers on responsible tourism. She is the co-founder of the Responsible Travel & Tourism Collective, which include #RTTC, a weekly chat on Twitter about the topic and its many facets and also tapped as a speaker for elephant tourism. Join Diana and her travels on her blog www.dtravelsround.com Cuban Holidays Could Now be On the Agenda for US citizens Recent improved relationships between Cuba and the United States may open the door for improved travel for US citizens wanting to visit the country. Hostilities between the two countries have begun to thaw after 50 years of standoff and there is a suggestion in some circles that commercial flights may open up in the foreseeable future. Travelers currently have to go via charter flights with restrictive baggage and long checkin times the norm. An increase in US tourists will be an economic plus for Cuba and will no doubt hasten the development of the country. If you’re wanting to experience Cuba as it is now you may be best to go sooner rather than later. 42 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. LIVE LIKE A MILLIONAIRE C FOR FREE an you really sustain a lifestyle caring for other people’s houses and never have to go home again? Today’s guests are living proof of the fact. Michael and Yvonne Bauche gave up a comfortable but stress-inducing lifestyle in Vancouver Canada 3 years ago and they haven’t looked back. Their income is lower but so is their living costs giving them the opportunity to live a millionaire’s lifestyle on less than $C3000 per month all without having to eat into their savings. They’ve met interesting people and made new friends for life. They’ve housesat in many parts of Europe, Central America and the Caribbean and now spend over 70% of each year minding houses, often for repeat clients who have them back. They have so many requests in fact that they have built up a network of fellow house sitters who can take care of the clients they can’t get to! But the best part is they have their freedom back. In today’s interview you’ll discover just how easy and cost effective housesitting can be and the opportunities it can open up for you to live your life to the fullest. If you’d like to know more about housesitting check out their website at http://thebauches. com or you can grab their free report at http:// yourescapeblueprint.com/free-housesitting-report/ MICHAEL AND YVONNE BAUCHE 43 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Tony (Argyle): Well, welcome to the show Michael and Yvonne. Lovely to have you here today. Yvonne (Bauche): Thanks for having us, Tony. Tony: Paint the picture. Whereabouts are you at the moment? We know you’re house sitting. Tell us a little bit about your location and what you can see from where you are? Yvonne: We are just around the corner from Marigot Bay in Saint Lucia. Although we can’t see Marigot Bay itself, we’re actually on a little promontory with a bay on either side of us. We’re perched quite high up over the cliffs, and we have an amazing view of the ocean – and the sunset, which is going to be quite spectacular tonight. Tony: Right. Well, you’ve just depressed everybody now. Thank you very much for that [laughter]. I’ve seen the photos of your previous experiences in Saint Lucia, and it just looks like a stunning place. You’ve obviously been there quite a few times, haven’t you? Yvonne: We have. This is our… 44 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Michael (Bauche): This would be our third time here. Yvonne: Yes, with intentions to return. Tony: So tell us about how did you get involved in house sitting? What was your previous life like? Yvonne: We did the rat race, the 9:00 to 5:00 in Vancouver, BC. It’s a beautiful place to live, but we were working long hours just to stay ahead. What happened was a very dear friend passed away from a serious illness, and we asked ourselves, ‘If we only had 6 months left to live, would we still be doing what we were doing?’ Well, the answer was no. So we tried to figure out a way to escape, to travel, which is what we really wanted to do; and we figured that out. We turned our home into an asset, and we’re using house sitting to reduce our living costs, and we’re able to live for less than we used to back in Vancouver. Tony: So what were you both doing before in terms of your work? Michael: Okay. Well, Tony, I was a professional engineer. I was working in the oil and We asked ourselves, if we only had 6 months left to live, would we still be doing what we were doing... —Yvonne Bauche gas business as a consultant. I had several lucrative clients such as Chevron and Imperial Oil, which is a subsidiary of Exxon, so I was basically working in a refinery as a mechanical engineer. Tony: And what about yourself, Yvonne? Yvonne: I bounced around from various, different careers. I was a newcomer to Canada as you might be able to tell. I’m English originally. And so I’ve reinvented myself a few times. I’d most recently been working in the financial industry, and the crash of 2008 sort of put an end to that; and so I was looking for a new direction. Tony: Okay. We’ll get into a bit more about your cost of living because you obviously January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. mentioned that what you’re doing now is not earning as much, but it’s costing you significantly less. We’ll talk about that shortly, but what year did you first start doing this? How long have you been doing it for? Yvonne: We’ve been doing this just over 3 years. It was end of April 2012 when we waved goodbye to rainy Vancouver. Tony: So you’re spending, I think, about 40% of the year now doing house sitting. Is that right? Michael: No, we’re actually doing more like 75% right now. So we are travelling full-time, and we have been travelling full-time for the last few years. On average, it’s working out to about 75% of our time that we are actually house sitting. Yvonne: Yeah. I think the first year, it was probably 40%; but now we’re actually booked until January. Tony: So you’ve gone from being semi-professionals to full professionals. Yvonne: Pretty much, yeah. Tony: [Chuckles] The thought of doing this, I mean it must have been a little bit 45 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 scary for you. What were the concerns you had before leaping into it? And have those concerns become real? not wasted. There are things you can take along with you and apply to whatever new venture you’re looking at taking on. Michael: Well [chuckles], I think, Tony, with something like this, the biggest fears are the ones that you conjure up in your head before you go. I know from my perspective, I’d spent 5 years in university getting a degree and 20 years working in a career; and the idea of jettisoning that, some people will say throwing away a good career was pretty daunting. At that point, I had a lot built up in my identity as being a professional; so letting that go was a big hurdle for me. Tony: Yeah. Tony: Funny you say that because I hear that from a lot of people. A degree is so highly regarded and higher education is so highly regarded. You’re almost looked at by people as ‘what do you think you’re doing?’ when you make this sort of decision, don’t you? Yvonne: Yes. Michael: However, I can say that the skills that I learned not only in university but also in the 20-year professional career, all those skills I take along with me. I mean that information, that knowledge, and those experiences are Yvonne: Yeah. Tony: So just to make everybody feel really depressed now, tell us all the countries you’ve been to and house sat. Yvonne: Okay. Off to you, Michael. Michael: Okay. Well, since starting full-time in 2012, our first house sit which really solidified it for us was in Tuscany, near Lucca – Tuscany, Italy. Then we were in Spain, the South of Spain. From there, we moved on to look after a vineyard in the South of France. From there, we went to London, England, where we had friends who decided to leave town while the craziness of the Olympics are going on. So we have their 15 century house looked after while they were gone. So that was basically our Europe sojourn. And then we shifted gears and went over to Central America, where we house sat in San Jose, Costa Rica. We house sat in Boquete, Panama. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. get the lowdown on what it’s really like to live there as a local. And because you’re shopping and cooking for yourself, it’s a different perspective than just going as a tourist. Tony: A more authentic experience of it. Our very first housesit in Tuscany in 2012, solidified housesitting for us says Michael. Yvonne: Placencia, Belize. Michael: Yeah, in Belize. We had two house sits in Belize. Yvonne: And one near Belmopan. Michael: And then from Central America, we were planning on heading down to South America; but in the middle of last year, we kind of got sidetracked to our first house sit here in Marigot Bay. We had been here house sitting for over a year now, and I’m not sure if— Yvonne: When we’re going to ever escape [laughter]. Tony: It’s a living hell, isn’t it [chuckles]? 46 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Yvonne: In the Caribbean, we’ve been bouncing around between the Grenadines, Barbados, and Saint Lucia. Tony: Okay. Well my next question was going to be ‘what do you enjoy best about house sitting?’ but I don’t think you need to answer that. I think the places you’ve described in themselves, it’s obviously a fantastic experience. Yvonne: I think, really, what we enjoy about house sitting is we’re not staying in hotels or hostels. You’re actually staying in somebody’s home. You usually get access to a car. They tell you the best places to shop. They usually introduce you to some of the locals so you Yvonne: Yes, and you really get a feel for it. One of the reasons for setting up and travelling was we know we don’t want to retire and settle down in Vancouver. We don’t know where that’s going to be yet; but this way, we can get a really good feel for those places we would consider. Tony: Yup. So what would you say has been the best experience you’ve had while you’ve been on the road? Yvonne: Hmm. That’s a tough one. I think we both would agree that our favourite house sit was the first one in Lucca in Tuscany. I think that’s mainly because of where the house was located and the style of the home. The owner was very artistic, and she had a beautiful garden, amazing views, 300-degree views out over the valleys. I think what really was the highlight of those sits was taking cooking lessons, which is a lot of fun. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Tony: So a lot of your ‘business’, for want of a better word, would be repeat customers now. Would that be fair to say? Yvonne: Ninety percent is repeat customers. Well, actually, 100% is repeat customers or referrals right now. Tony: Right. And I guess once you get yourself started, you can easily build into that situation over a period of time. Yvonne: Absolutely. We turn down house sits all the time. We’ve turned down 3 in the last 3 weeks! Michael: Yeah. That is the biggest challenge about what we’re doing. Once you set yourself up and get a good reputation for yourself, the problem is not being able to be at 3 or 4 places simultaneously. So we’ve started setting up a network of people that we can refer to our clients as a value-added service; so yeah, if we could be 3 or 4 places at once, that would be wonderful. Yvonne: But we haven’t figured out how to clone ourselves yet. Tony: That must be tough making a decision sometimes out there. Yvonne: Yes, it is. One instance is we got asked to house sit this Christmas in Barbados about 18 months before it was due, and we didn’t really want to make the commitment because we weren’t sure we wanted to go back to Barbados or not. But the reality is that she was pushing for an answer, and so we said, ‘Yes, we would do it.’ And then once we’re committed, that’s it – we’re committed. Even if we’re better off with what comes up. It’s like, ‘No, we said we’re going to do this.’ So once we said yes, that’s it. It’s done. Tony: Yeah, fair enough. Michael: We also tend to keep travel costs down. We tend to pick a direction of travel and then pick house sits that suit the route we’re going. We do know house sitters who fly around, go from Australia to Canada to Barbados; and unless you have a fortune to spend on airfare, that can get pretty expensive. So we tend to pick a direction of travel and then plug in house sits to suit the region and/or the direction that we’re planning on going. We love our furry housemates! 47 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Yvonne: Yeah. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Tony: Okay. Well, let’s talk about cost because you touched on the fact at the beginning of this conversation that you’re basically now living for considerably less than what you were before. If you don’t want to divulge too much, that’s perfectly fine; but I understand from looking through your blog and stuff, that you guys are really only looking at a cost of a couple of thousand dollars a month to sustain yourself. Is that right? Michael: That’s correct, and it does depend where we are travelling and how much house sitting we have to subsidise our cost. When we’re in Europe, we actually rented a car for 3 months; so that was a bit of a cost. I think our average cost in Europe where we house sat 70% of the time with the car worked out to about C$3,400 a month. And then once we got into Central America, our house sitting was down to about 40% of the time; but with the cheaper cost of living, we were averaging about C$2,000 a month. And in the Caribbean which has a reputation for being quite pricey and rightly so; right now, we’re house sitting 75% to 80% of the time, and we’re managing to live very, very well for about C$2,000 a month. Tony: Okay. So you’re not eating into your savings at all with this? You’re able to create enough income to keep yourself going? Michael: Yes. At this point, C$2,000 a month, it’s financially sustainable for us. We have some real estate back home that the renters are paying the lion’s share of our travel cost; and then also with the travel writing and the work we’re doing on the side, that basically gives us our beer money. Tony: Yeah. I think this is a thing that a lot of people don’t appreciate, particularly if you’re coming from a more expensive Western country – and I’m What’s not to love? Our Spanish housesit. 48 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. in Australia here which is one of the dearer places to live. When you leave, the amount of rent you get will more than cover you in most other parts of the world, won’t it? Yvonne: Yes. Michael: That’s been our experience. I mean, for us, living in Vancouver—which The Economist Magazine listed as one of the most expensive cities to live in North America in 2013—we were spending just to maintain our lifestyle, about double of what we’re spending now. We were spending C$4,000 a month to keep the house going. Yvonne: Two cars. Michael: A couple of cars, groceries. Michael: That’s how to quantify. I mean going from a 9:00 to 5:00 career where you’re in the rat race to living the lifestyle where we’re basically retired. I mean we do work and projects because we feel like it, not because we have to. We’ve been living in the last 3 years in some really, really wonderful places. And really, we’re living the life of millionaires without having to have a millionaire’s… Yvonne: Without having to invest millions. Tony: Yeah. So tell us a bit about your business, because you are advising or helping house sitters in getting started really, aren’t you, that’s one of the businesses you have? Yvonne: [Laughter] Oh, triple? Quadruple? Michael: Well, basically, I guess our business is travel writing. What we’ve done is we’ve written a book on house sitting for international living, and they’re marketing it now. Also on top of that, Yvonne’s been doing freelance writing. I’ve been selling some photographs that go along with the writing. So I would say that at this point, Tony, our business is basically that of a travel writer. Tony: [Laughs] Can’t put a number on it. Yvonne: Yeah, a publisher I guess. Yvonne: Things. Michael: Yeah, just what people would normally consider to be the necessities for daily living. Tony: So you’ve halved your cost. In terms of the quality of your life, how much has that increased by? Tony: Okay. 49 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Yvonne: We do offer coaching for people that want some businesses in house sitting, but for a start would be our free report we got out now, I would say. Tony: Okay. So just tell us how do people get hold of that report? Michael: Our report, you can go to our house sitting website. This is basically a website that we set up to advertise our house sitting services; but along with it, we also have a free report called ‘What Everybody Ought to Know about House Sitting.’ It’s basically a 10-step guide showing people how to do what we’re doing basically, how to market yourself, how to find the best positions, and how to cut through the competition and land up on jobs that we’ve been doing for the last 3 years. Yvonne: Yeah. Tony: Well, you’re a living endorsement. I don’t think anybody’s going to doubt what you’re saying. That’s for sure. We’ll talk a little bit more about that soon, but I guess everything’s got a downside. What would you say has been the downside of living the lifestyle you’ve got? Michael: Well, I think when you have the house sits lined up one after the other, January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. there’s really not a downside. I guess psychologically, it might not be for everyone because you’d have to be willing to live with a sense of insecurity because sometimes, you don’t know where you’re going to be travelling next or where the next opportunity is going to arise. If you’re the type of person who is willing to live fluidly or be able to roll with the opportunities as they come along, then it’s not really a problem at all. Yvonne: Yeah. I think what Mike’s trying to say is that if you’re an adaptable type of person, it’s not a problem. If you like everything structured and like to use all your own stuff, then house sitting probably won’t work for you. THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Yvonne: Yes. It is. It’s very liberating. It is. And it’s quite strange. Even though we travel full-time, our schedules are probably more structured than they were back home, especially our travel schedules. Tony: I guess that’s something you’ve got to like now, haven’t you? Tony: [Laughs] I was just going to say, Michael, you found the perfect woman if you can get her down to a carry-on suitcase. I think there’s men all over the world who’d love to meet a woman like that. Michael: Yeah, I’ve done it right, Tony. [Laughter] Yvonne: No high heels in my suitcase, Tony. Tony: You’ve got to be practical, haven’t you? So, you’ve obviously been to a Yvonne: Yeah. lot of countries. If you had to pick one to settle down in, what would “We went from the 4 bedroom have been your favourite? house filled to the brim with stuff ... 2 carry-on suitcases... that takes a bit of adjustment.” now we live out of Tony: And I guess that can be a learned skill too, can’t it? I was interviewing somebody recently, and they said that they came from a corporate lifestyle where everything was structured to having to adapt to the flexibility; but they actually found it to be invigorating in the end because not knowing where they’re going to be next week initially was hard work, but they eventually came to love that freedom factor, and 50 that’s the best part of the trade-off, isn’t it? Yvonne: Ooh… Ooh. I don’t know if we can pick one —Michael Bauche right now. I think there’s probably 3 contenders, and Mike Michael: Another trick is to might disagree with me. I be able to—I mean we live love Grenada. That’s in the out of 2 carry-on suitcasCaribbean. I really love that es [laughter], and that’s a little island. We both love learned skill as well. I mean Tuscany, but they have winwe went from the 4-bedroom ter. And I like Belize too. house filled to the brim with stuff which we basically diMichael: Yeah. I would vested ourselves of, and we agree. I think part of the now live out of 2 carry-on problem we have answering suitcases. That takes a bit of that question, Tony, is really, an adjustment as well. we have a life goal of visiting 100 countries; and we’re Yvonne: I guess that brings both around the 70-country to the feminine downside - is mark, so we’re getting close. not having all your things. We have a lot more travelling January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. one morning and got rushed off to the hospital because I had developed deep vein thrombosis and had a massive pulmonary embolism. Bequia, St. Vincent & the Grenadines. to do, so we’re not quite in the mindset yet of putting down roots; but as we’re house sitting in different countries, we are taking notes. I think when the time comes to put away the carry-on suitcases, we will have a pretty good idea of where that place will be. But right now, it’s kind of hard to put a thumb down on it. Tony: Okay. So in terms of practicalities, how do you get on things such as your healthcare travelling around a lot, and insurances, and also I guess going hand-inhand with that, the rights you might have as Canadian citizens in terms of your tax status, Medicare, pension funds, etc.? Is there any issue around that with being out of the country so much? Michael: Yeah, there definitely is. As far as the tax 51 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 status goes, because we still have real estate in Canada, we’re deemed residents of Canada tax-wise; so we still have to file income tax returns on an annual basis. The really trickiest part for us is, like you mentioned, is the healthcare. In our province, we’re allowed to be away for 7 months of the year and still be covered by our provincial medical system. Since we’re away longer, we’re taking advantage of a leave of absence from that program which we can reinstate that at any time within a two-year period. But we are very strong believers of carrying adequate health insurance, and we can speak from experience because just this January, the 2nd of January, we were with friends in our hometown, Vancouver. I’m in my mid40s, pretty good shape, no health issues, and I woke up So one day, I was perfectly healthy; and then the next day, right out of the blue, I had an emergency room doctor telling me to my face, ‘Michael, you’ve got a lifethreatening illness; and this is very, very critical.’ I ended up spending 2 weeks in the hospital getting that taken care of, and I am so grateful for the Canadian healthcare system, that it was there for us. The scary thing is, two days later, we were going to be flying off to Miami, Florida, which has worldclass healthcare but also has world-class… Yvonne: Price. Michael: … price tags associated with that healthcare. And then a couple of days later, we were planning on being in the Bay Islands in Honduras. We’ve been to Utila before, and we know the condition of the healthcare system there; and all I can say is I’m very happy that I didn’t get sick there. So I think if you can’t afford adequate travel insurance, you can’t really afford to be travelling. However, on the flipside, I do think that you January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. cover your financial risks. I think insurance is a financial decision. You can cover the risks against the biggest potential losses; so if you get sick somewhere, it’s not going to bankrupt you. And then a lot of the ancillary coverage such as baggage losses or trip insurance, that sort of thing, we decided to go naked and self-insure ourselves; but we just make sure that we’re covered for any catastrophe that could wipe us out financially. turn the Creole on and lose our English speakers. Yvonne: The biggest language barrier was actually in Europe. Because we were bouncing around quite a bit, there’s no way we can learn German, French, Dutch, Swedish, Swiss; but most Europeans do speak English, so it wasn’t a problem. of tourism, the working language is in English; so even if you go to a country where English is not widely spoken, places where you would rent a car or find a place to stay, those are the people who speak English. They cater to foreign tourists. Tony: So what do you miss the most about being on the Tony: I guess travelling with hand luggage, it makes it reasonably easy for the rest of that insurance. You don’t have a lot of risk at the end of the day, do you? So it certainly helps things. How do you find language barriers? I guess a lot of the Caribbean is English speaking. What about Central America? Michael: Well, we’ve never really had any issues with language. I mean when we were travelling in Central America, I was practicing my Spanish. I do know a little bit. I know enough to get into trouble and maybe get out of trouble [chuckles]. I can function. And like you said, the Caribbean is—they can speak English if they want to, but they’re going to also 52 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 This housesit came complete with Live in Maid! Tony: Yeah. And we’re very fortunate in that regard really, aren’t we, in terms of most countries of the world, they can be very accommodating towards understanding English far more than we are at understanding other languages too. Yvonne: easier. It makes it a lot Michael: Yeah. I think the reality is that the business road? Obviously other than high heels, Yvonne. Yvonne: [Laughs] I don’t think I really miss—actually, there’s one thing I miss, and that’s having a garden. I like to garden, and I get to dabble in other people’s gardens. But I don’t get to see the combination. You’re planting seeds and harvesting them, stuff like that. So I guess that’s the only thing I really miss: the continuity of having my own garden. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. sometimes is on the islands here because the internet I believe is with satellite uplinks. If you get a storm going over, then the internet coverage will drop; but one of the beauties of being on the Caribbean is it’ll rain for half an hour, and then the sun comes out again. Tony: I’m sure I know the answer to this question, but are you planning to return to the rat race at any stage soon? Deliciousimo! Tony: I haven’t thought about that. You don’t see the fruits of your labour really, do you, unless you go back again later. Yvonne: Well, we will in so many cases. Michael: Yeah. Typically, our house sits are anywhere from 3 weeks to 3 months. So the garden, we don’t really see—if we do plant a lot of seeds, we don’t get to see the fruit. Yvonne: No. But we get to eat fruit sometimes from Italy. Michael: Yeah. Tony: That’s from somebody else’s labour. That’s even better. Yvonne: Yes. 53 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Michael: Yes, exactly [chuckles]. Tony: Now, you mentioned at the start of the call about internet coverage. How have you found that most of the places you’ve gone? Has it been an issue at all? Michael: No, not really, because we’re house sitting. A lot of the places we’re house sitting, our clients have very good internet coverage. That is actually a prerequisite for us because we basically do all our business and banking online. We need to house sit in a place where we have adequate coverage. And in terms of the bandwidth and the speed, it’s been more than adequate everywhere we’ve gone. I think one of the only technical issues we have Yvonne: [Chuckles] Nooo. No way, Jose. Michael: No. No way. We’re quite happy being roving retirees for the foreseeable future. Tony: I think the key thing is what you’ve done is set up a sustainable situation, haven’t you, where you can continue to do this because the income covers you. Yvonne: Yeah. Tony: And really, health allowing, you can do this indefinitely for the rest of your lives I guess. Michael: Absolutely. Yeah. I think another challenge is that having come from a pressure-cooker career and something that’s intellectually challenging, it’s also important to take up activities while January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. just go hand-in-hand because we love to go to the local markets. We love to try the new food. Sometimes it is a challenge being in different places because you can’t get the ingredients you want, so you have to make do with what you can get. One of our favourite housesits has the gorgeous Elle… you’re travelling to keep your gray matter going; and that’s what we’ve been doing with the writing and with the different projects that we’re doing – just looking for challenges to keep our brains going every day and keep things exciting and interesting. Tony: Do you have any particular hobbies or anything that you’ve had to try and find how you can continue to do it as you’ve travelled? Or have you picked up new hobbies? Michael: Well, really, that was an easy one for us because we both love scuba diving; so that’s something we partake in while we’re travelling. And we both love to cook. So the cooking and the travelling 54 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Really, the lifestyle that we’re pursuing right now was really fitting with what we love to do. We love to write. We love to read. We love to cook. And we like to walk and scuba dive. So it’s a really good fit for us. Yvonne: And we like pets too. Tony: I’ve noticed that with your photos. Obviously, you’re more than happy to do houses with animals. Michael: Yeah. Ninety percent of our clients have pets. And really, that’s the main driver behind house sitting, is looking after people’s pets. Tony: I guess the final question for you guys: how would you say this has changed your life? Yvonne: How has it changed—well, I’m going to use Mike as an example. He’d get up at 7:00. He’d have a glass of water, clean his teeth, get dressed, and roll out of the house to be at work for 7:30. And then he would stuff up on coffee all morning. And then when he got home at about 4:30 because he’s working a short day, he was just so hyped on coffee and stressed that he would take him at least an hour to wind down if he ever did. He’s a different Michael than what he was now. We get up in the morning probably when the sun comes up, a little bit afterwards (it depends on the schedule), walk the dogs or whatever it is we have to do, a half cup of tea or coffee, and then decide what we’re going to do for the rest of the day. So the stress level I think is the big difference. There isn’t really any. Michael: Yeah. I think to add to that, our job right now is to enjoy life; and we enjoy it at our own pace. So really, we don’t have a lot of stress in our life at all right now, which is a good thing; and I think it’s a much more healthier way to live than what we were doing back home working the 9:00 to 5:00 in a real highpressure type of a career. Tony: Guys, it’s been awesome talking to you. Just for somebody who’s listening to this who’s thinking of getting into house sitting and they’re wanting to take the plunge, they’ve got concerns, where do they begin? Your report probably sounds like the best place to start. Is that right? January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. Michael: Yeah, I would think so. I mean we’re a little bit biased. We wrote the report. But yeah, we have a free report on our website. The website is www.TheBauches.com, and the report is called ‘Everything you ought to know about House Sitting,’ and that is a 10-step guide that shows how to do what we’re doing. It’s a pretty comprehensive report. The reality is that the best place to start is to decide to do it and take action towards making it happen. Yvonne: It’s a good starting place, and it just gives some of the websites that we’ve used and some tips for building profiles and things like that. Tony: Excellent. At least I’ve got my spelling right even though I did mispronounce it earlier. We’ll be putting a link to that up on our podcast anyway, but thanks guys! It’s Tony: I will just spell Bauche for people who are listening to this. B-A-U-C-H-E, is that correct? Michael: That is correct. Yvonne: That’s correct. been a real pleasure talking to you today. I’ve learned a lot about house sitting, things I didn’t know about it. I’m sure most of the listeners have too. We really appreciate you putting the time in to share your experiences. Thanks again for that. Yvonne: You’re very welcome, Tony. Michael: Our pleasure. Yvonne: And your listeners. WHAT I LEARNED FROM THEIR INTERVIEW: 1. If you’re serious about housesitting travel light. Both Michael and Yvonne exist with hand luggage only and don’t really feel they miss anything from doing so (Yvonne even confesses to not carting heels with her!). It helps they have mainly focused around warmer climates but if you want to make life easy (and save on luggage costs and insurance ) then travelling light helps 2. Housesitting offers a far more meaningful way to enjoy an area. You can be treated as a local. Michael and Yvonne encourage their hosts to set them up with a network of people when they arrive which makes the whole process far more comfortable for them 3. Don’t spread yourself too thin. The Bauches concentrate on housesitting in regions resisting the urge to leap around the world and incur bigger travel costs. 55 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. 56 Not Enough Americans Using Their Holidays YIKES! A survey conducted by Google Consumer Surveys of over 1500 US citizens online uncovered that 42% of Americans did not take a single days holiday during 2014. The data showed that over 70% of Americans take holidays of 10 days or less which differs greatly from similar research conducted in other western countries. The data showed that females, those aged between 35 and 44 and urban as opposed to rural dwellers were less likely to take holidays than their counterparts. Google Consumer Survey Credit: Skift.com Learn a New Language 30 minutes a day Anywhere Anytime Scientifically Proven Click here to find out more information 57 GROCERY SHOPPING IN XCALAK, MEXICO by DEIDRE AND JASON MIZE W e live in xcalak, a town of 400 people that sits on the border of Belize and is an extremely remote part of Mexico. This means that we’ve had to adjust to things taking longer to do, longer to get to and overall being quite a bit less convenient. Like grocery shopping. The days of a quick stop at the store to pick up bread or milk or beer? Hah! Where we live now, spontaneously deciding what’s for dinner is not an option. We have to do planning and preparation if we want to eat. 58 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. And we do. So how do we go grocery shopping in Xcalak? Leading out of the actual town is a one lane dirt road known as the beach road. There are quite a few houses stretched along this beach road, including ours. We live in the last house on the road, about nine miles from town and about a mile from the next closest house. So like I was saying, remote. We typically don’t mind the privacy and serenity that comes from being at the ‘end of the road.’ That is until we get hungry. Thankfully there is a food truck that drives up and down the beach road that sells fresh fruits, vegetables, meats and a few other odds and ends. The food truck announces its arrival by honking their horn at the front gate. There are actually quite a few vendors that announce their presence with a horn or by playing music. Kind of like the ice cream man. Unfortunately though, there is never 59 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 any ice cream for sale – too hot to deliver (boy do I miss ice cream). For most of the road, a food truck comes by daily. But because we’re pretty far down the road many grocers don’t want to drive this far so we typically only get a food truck 2-3 days a week. That might sound like a lot, but the food here doesn’t have many preservatives or chemicals added so everything turns pretty quickly. It’s best to only buy what you think you’re going to eat in the next day or two. The selection on the truck is surprisingly good. We pretty regularly buy papaya, pineapple, mangoes, carrots, melon, bananas, eggs, tortillas rice, chicken, tomatoes, peppers, cucumber and zucchini. But planning meals based just on what you get from the truck can be difficult. The inventory is never the same from day to day. One day our truck guy has loads of lettuce, then the next three times he comes by he has none. It could be that there was none where he picked up the food from to deliver, or it could be that everyone else on the road bought all the lettuce before he got to us. I can typically get ¾ of my list crossed off, but that might be only ¾ of the things needed for a January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. meal. So we’ve had to find some other ways to supplement what comes on the food truck, and to satisfy some of our cravings. Once in a while someone comes by selling meals out of the trunk of their car. It’s an odd version of a drive-thru, but the food is SOOO much better and often includes empanadas, salbutes, tamales and, our favorite, cochinita pibil – pork that is marinated in a citrusy sauce and roasted in a banana leaf. But the food truck and the food delivery people don’t have everything. They don’t have some necessary household supplies and foods that we crave from the United States. And they definitely don’t have a lot of variety. It does get monotonous eating tortillas, rice and beans on a regular basis. So if we want additional items or need anything more than what the food truck and the people selling food from their cars bring it requires us to get in our car and drive. And drive. And drive. It is not as easy as a quick run down the street. There are a couple abarottes, or corner stores, in the town of Xcalak but not a grocery store. Our next closest option to buy groceries is in the town of Mahahual which is about an hour away. There are several specialty stores and restaurants here and while there is still not a traditional grocery store, the corner stores are a lot bigger and have a much wider selection. And if you can’t find it in Mahahual? You keep driving. The closest real grocery store to us is in the city of Chetumal, the state capital, which is about 2.5 hours away. Here there are several grocery stores and…. yes, a Sam’s Club. If we’re going to drive that far for groceries, we’re going to stock up. And Sam’s Club is the place to do that. About once a month we take a day trip and drive to Chetumal to replenish our supply of food items that we want and crave. Sometimes we REALLY want something besides tortillas and rice. So when we go, we make it count. Kalmata olives! Cheddar cheese! Meatballs! Chicken with the head already cut off! As with many things here in Xcalak, grocery shopping can be time-consuming and a challenge. And from time to time we do miss the ease and convenience of being able to run down the street to pick up that one item we forgot we needed for dinner. But we have enjoyed eating extremely fresh food, trying new food and getting creative and coming up with new recipes based on the food we have on hand. Sometimes the recipes work, sometimes they don’t. We’re having fun trying. And so no ice cream, but I’m pretty sure there’s a spare Dos Equis around here somewhere. Deidre and Jason Mize .... ....from Kansas we were enjoying lucrative corporate careers, had a house, a couple of cars and were surrounded by stuff. So, so, much stuff. But at the end of each day, week, month and year we’d typically find ourselves stressed, unhappy and never really sure where our money had gone, (probably to buy more stuff). With the realization, and several reminders, that life is not a guarantee, we decided not to wait until retirement to live our lives and begin to make some changes. We quit our corporate jobs, started a new business together, sold almost all of that stuff, packed the rest into our remaining car and drove off with plans to live, work and explore different parts of the world. We currently house and pet sit throughout the world. We try to share the good, the bad, the exciting and the disappointing and we try to share it in a way that is honest and, hopefully, entertaining. http://www.awolamericans.com/ 60 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Deidre and Jason Mize January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. THE 6 PIECES OF TECH GEAR THAT HAVE MOST IMPROVED MY TRAVELS by DAVE DEAN I travel, and I write about tech. The end result is, typically, a bottomless pit of gadgets trying to burst out of my backpack, most of which don’t really justify being there in the first place. Now and then, though, I find something that’s genuinely pretty great. It doesn’t cost an arm and a leg, is robust and reliable, and simply makes my travels a better experience in one way or another. These are the half-dozen pieces of tech gear that fit all of the above criteria, and have made the biggest difference to me in the last year or two on the road. 61 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. SMARTPHONE The first one’s obvious, but it’s true — buying an unlocked smartphone has vastly improved my travel experience. I’ll admit that in the past, I’d often be afraid to explore too far from wherever I was staying, or walk off the edge of the map in my guidebook or tourist brochure, because I might not be able to find my way home. It’s a lame excuse, in some ways, but it’s true. Now, I’ll happily wander anywhere for hours, knowing that the magic blue dot will guide me home. I don’t usually carry a camera when exploring cities any more, since the one on my phone is good enough. Podcasts and playlists make long travel days pass more quickly, while still leaving my eyes free to gaze out the window. Tripit has replaced a binder with my itinerary, I use Skype, Whatsapp or email rather than hunting out a payphone or Internet cafe, and ebooks and Pocket instead of paper guidebooks — and that’s all before I even factor in trying to run a business from the road. I started out with an Apple iPhone 3G, moved to a Samsung Galaxy S2 and now carry a Google Nexus 5. They’ve 62 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 all been great, and each one has cost less than the one before. You can now pick up a perfectly usable unlocked smartphone for under $250, and a pretty damn good one for under $400. They come with downsides, of course, and there’s always a battle to stay engaged in the moment rather than the screen. On balance, though? My phone is the travel gadget I’d be least happy to give up. PORTABLE BATTERY Smartphone prices may have come down and usefulness may have gone up, but the battery life still sucks. Long travel days still leave my phone and other gadgets gasping for power before I can get anywhere near a mains socket. The Powerdrive also provides extra storage for mobile devices, so it costs a bit extra, but you can pick up decent portable batteries for under twenty bucks. CHARGING CABLES After travelling for a while, and buying gadgets wherever I happened to be at the time, my cable situation was a mess. US, UK and Australian plugs, a dozen standard USB cables plus an Apple 30 pin version, dedicated chargers for things like cameras, and all kinds of other junk. I ended up with a big, tangled bag of electronic accessories, and it was annoyingly difficult to charge everything at once due to needing multiple plug adapters. Recently I started using a 7800mAh Mazzo Powerdrive, which lets me charge my phone a couple of times and still have enough juice left to get my Kindle or GoPro fired up again too. It’s changed the way I use my gear, especially the phone — no more rationing screen time and keeping it in flight mode just to nurse it through the day. January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. In the end, I declared cable bankruptcy and started again. Out went all the power cables with non-US plugs, replacing them with US versions instead. The cheap, crappy USB cables went too. I donated the old iPhone I carried as a spare, and the 30 pin cable that went with it, and bought a universal charger for things like camera and spare phone batteries. length, since I try to keep as much weight as possible off the power socket, especially when using plug adapters that are always ill-fitting. That simple process cost very little, halved the size and weight of my electronics bag, and made charging everything much less painful. Ok, so it’s not technically a single gadget — but consolidating cables has definitely made my travelling life a whole lot easier. I think it counts. INTERNATIONAL MULTI-USB CHARGER MICRO-USB CABLES (PLENTY OF THEM) Speaking of those USB cables, I have just one more than I need of each type, carrying only high-quality versions of different lengths. With micro-USB, for instance, I have one that’s a few inches long for charging my phone from a laptop, or that portable battery in my pocket. This way, it’s less likely to get caught up and broken, and it’s not so bulky either. The rest are longer than average, so they can reach comfortably from a power socket halfway up a wall, or behind the bed. It sounds like a small improvement, and it is — but the simple decision to have a spare of every kind of USB cable, and the right length for the job, is something I appreciate every single day. Never more so than last month, when my phone’s charging cable died right as I was about to leave for the airport. TRAVEL-SIZED POWER STRIP Picking up a travel-sized power strip has made a huge difference. Now, I only need one plug adapter for the power strip, rather than a bunch of them rattling round in my bag for each device. It’s not perfect — it really could do with a bit of extra cable 63 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Instead, the power strip just ends up hanging from any power socket that’s more than a few inches off the floor. Still, it’s small, cheap and otherwise very useful, so I’ll let it slide. In the same vein, having a multi-USB charger for the last few months has been a godsend. The model I’ve been using has four sockets that can charge phones, tablets and other USB gear, is light and compact, and comes with clip-on plug attachments for most countries in the world. It’s such a simple idea, I don’t know why (a) more companies don’t make them and (b) I haven’t picked one up before. The combined output of the charger is 4.8amps, so I couldn’t charge four tablets off it simultaneously, for instance. Luckily I don’t own four tablets. I’ll often charge my phone, portable battery and Kindle from it, however, and there’s no problem at all. Best of all? It costs around thirty dollars. Bargain. So those are the gadgets and cables that have made the most difference to me, day after day on the road. Other than the phone, buying something similar won’t cost more than about $30. Improving your travels doesn’t need to cost a fortune. Who knew? Dave Dean .... Traveller, freelance writer and a founder of Too Many Adapters, Dave has been a wanderer for over 15 years and a geek for even longer. When he’s not playing with the latest tech toy or working out how to keep his phone charged for just a few more minutes, he can probably be found sitting in a broken down bus in some obscure corner of the planet. http://toomanyadapters.com/ Dave Dean January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. EUROPE’S BEST LOW COST BY CHUCK AND LORI ROS AIRLINES L ong term, sustainable travel means you have to make your dollars (or euros or pounds) stretch as far as you can. When it comes to air travel, in the states our choices are pretty much limited to Southwest, JetBlue, and a couple of others that might be categorized as “budget” airlines. But in Europe there seems to be a much more comprehensive list of options. Here are the ones we’ve identified and bookmarked. Note that, like here in the states, there are a couple more airlines that might be considered budget airlines that I haven’t listed: it’s just our bookmark list, not a comprehensive sampling. And I’m only including those airlines that obviously market themselves as low-cost. 64 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. An important tip! Be sure to read all the fine print and understand all the fees. Expect to pay extra for your luggage, including (on some airlines) your carry-on bags. Generally it’s better to pre-pay for any extras like luggage or meals. Watch out for “hidden” fees like getting charged to print boarding passes at the airport. Indicates an airline you should bookmark! Airberlin AtlasJet Norwegian Germany-based (duh) with great coverage all over Europe, but rarely the cheapest. Based in Turkey, with decent coverage within Turkey and to London, and a few places in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Great coverage all across Europe and one of the first of Europe’s discount airlines to fly across the Atlantic. They offer connections between Orlando, JFK, Las Vegas, Fort Lauderdale, and Oakland to Europe at “mid-week” prices. We haven’t flown them yet, but we’re keeping an eye on them. Onur Air Turkey’s 2nd low cost airline (behind Pegasus), with connections from some major European gateways (Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Paris, Vienna) and Istanbul (as well as connections from there to the Middle East). Condor This German-based airline is part of the Thomas Cook airline network and offers not only great coverage across Europe, but crosses the Atlantic with flights to JFK, Baltimore, Las Vegas, and more. Not to mention, Condor has great coverage in the Caribbean and even Asia and South America. Condor might just be the first global discount airline; this is definitely an airline you should bookmark. Croatia Airlines Obviously concentrated in the Balkans, but with connections to major cities across Europe. EasyJet We took EasyJet from Barcelona to Pisa once: it was an “ok” experience. Great holiday/vacation type coverage across Europe. Flybe Livingston Based in Italy, this airline has good coverage all around the Med, with a few destinations in the UK and Ireland. Monarch Quite possibly our favorite to get to/ from UK and the continent. Monarch has destinations across Europe and flies to the Canary Islands. Pegasus Turkey’s number 1 low cost airline, your best bet in and out of Istanbul and to the Turkish Aegean destinations like Bodrum and Alanya. They also get our award for the best safety video. If Turkey is on your travel wishlist, bookmark Pegasus. UK and Western Europe destinations mainly. Hop, by AirFrance Great coverage in France, as you might expect, plus destinations in Italy and Prague. Jet2 Holiday-centric, with lots of beach and sun destinations. 65 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. RyanAir The best known of the European budget airlines. We’ve taken them a half dozen times or so before, even though they leave you feeling a bit “used”. Beware their fees (like most of the discount airlines), especially the luggage fees and be sure to print your boarding pass before you go to the airport. Play their game and you can save a lot of money. SmartWings Decent enough coverage across Europe, also going to Tel Aviv and Dubai. Thomas Cook Airlines Holiday-centric airline branch of the venerable travel company, they have good coverage to fun & sun sorts of destinations, plus a few US destinations (JFK, Vegas, Miami, and Sanford/Orlando). Thomson TuiFly Another holiday-centric airline with lots of destinations in the UK and lots all around the Mediterranean. Another german-based low cost airline with a great global footprint. They offer transatlantic connections to Europe from Fort Lauderdale, Las Vegas, and Seattle, and they fly to South America, Asia, anda (naturally) all across Europe. Transavia Amsterdam-based, these guys are probably our best low-cost experience to date: we flew them from Venice to Amsterdam once, but unfortunately haven’t flown with them since. They offer “sun and fun” type destinations across Europe. Vueling Barcelona-based with good coverage across Europe; we’ve flown them only once, from Barcelona to the island of Ibiza. It was a good experience and we›d readily try them again. Chuck and Lori Ros.... A few years ago, life changed dramatically for us: both of Chuck’s parents passed away, we sold our company, both our kids moved out, and Chuck shed 80 pounds! With a passion for travel, exploring, drinking wine, making new friends and having great conversation, we hit the road in June, 2014. We returned home in March…just long enough to sell our house so we can keep traveling. We’re full-time, fully-committed, middle-aged nomads now! – Catch up with our travels at http://www.chuckandlori.com/ Chuck and Lori Ros Love our Magazine? Check out our Podcast! THE EXPAT CHAT PODCAST On i-tunes Click Here Or on our website www.theexpatchat.com "Inspiring tales from people living the life of their dreams through travel" 66 THE EXPAT CHAT | ISSUE 1 Tony Argyle - The Expat Chat January 2016 | All Rights Reserved. IF YOU BECAME AN EXPAT WHERE WOULD YOU MOVE TO AND WHY? We asked our Facebook Fans this very question... here’s what our Top 5 picks had to say.... When I become an expat I would start in Istanbul because it's on the border of the Middle east, Europe and Africa. The food, the friendly people and thousands of years of culture. What a place to begin !!! Cherie Jaillet The Mrs. and I have been in the casino industry for a decade. We would love to retire to Placencia Belize and work the tables there part time. Stefan Leach Moving to Playa Largardo, Costa Rica. Why? For a quiet, peaceful life. And because Costa Rica is symbiotic with nature and one of the greenest countries on earth. Lyn Opiela I think I would have to say we would move our address annually. The "Year in ----" fill in blank would add a wonderful sense of adventure and satisfy the wandering urge to be global citizen. Mary Kay Brautigan La Rochelle, France - sea, beaches, temperate, good food, oysters (!), and a great vibe. Andrew Matheson 67 THE LAST WORD ige Margo Pa www.theoverseasescape.com Name - Margo Paige Age - 29 Hometown – Roanoke, Virginia What year did you start travelling? 2009 Where are you currently? Washington DC (in transition to the US after years as an expat in Germany) What do you love most about travelling the world? Seeing the world from a different perspective – whether it’s by way of conversations with local students in Vietnam, panoramic views from a hiking trail in Switzerland or plunging into a plate of mofongo in Puerto Rico. What place or experience is on the top of your bucket list? Cuba. With the changing political landscape visiting is finally an option! Which country has the friendliest people? Portugal! What has been the most useful item you've bought for travelling? Zip storage bags to compartmentalize luggage. What's the best piece of travel advice you've received? The joys of RyanAir and Airbnb. Both make travel within Europe incredibly affordable. What's the worst piece of travel advice you've received? The importance of seeing the Mona Lisa. What is the best experience you have ever had? Recently while in Vietnam a student offered to make me dinner in order to practice her English. I immediately agreed and she brought over tins of homemade roasted duck and chicken to my hotel that night. We chatted for hours and I was so inspired and impressed with her drive and determination to learn my tricky native tongue. It’s meeting people like her that highlight the true purpose for travel. What advice would you give to people contemplating this lifestyle? Personal growth only happens when you push yourself. If you’re content with where you’re at right now then stay put but if you’re looking for more, then you must go. The details will work themselves out. 68 Follow Margo on her blog http://www.theoverseasescape.com/ NEXT MONTHS ISSUE You're going to love February's issue of The Expat Chat! Featuring more great articles, interviews and insights from Expats and Travel Bloggers from around the Globe! CLICK HERE To order your next issue