It Might Be Worth Something! Estate Liquidation Facts and Fantasies
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It Might Be Worth Something! Estate Liquidation Facts and Fantasies
It Might Be Worth Something! Estate Liquidation Facts and Fantasies Marilyn Ellis, CTACC, CSA Lighthouse Organizers, LLC www.lighthouseorganizers.com (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 What you will learn today: 1. 2. 3. 4. Basic understanding of non-titled property Why non titled property distribution is Complicated The Estate Liquidation Options available Various Business Models for each 1. Internet 2. Consignment 3. Estate Sale (In Home) 4. Garage/Tag Sale 5. Pawn 6. Auction 7. Donation 8. Hauling 9. Storage (Delayed decision making) (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Who Needs Estate Liquidation? • Estate :Will or Trust for Deceased • Living client or attorney,conservator/ guardian, for person who must downsize and dispose of unneeded personal property. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Everyone Has Property to Transfer (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Titled Property Ownership Owner is identified on a written document: • • • • • • • Insurance Policies Annuities Real Estate (Deeds) Bank Accounts Motor Vehicles Stocks and Bonds All these are usually clearly identified in the Trust or Will (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Non-titled Property Ownership: • Owner is not identified with a written document • No written instructions for distribution in Will or Trust. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Non-titled property includes: • • • • • • • • • • Dishes Tools Furniture Photos Books and Printed Items Guns, Linens and Needlework Jewelry Collections Clothing (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 It’s the non titled property, aka “Grandma’s Yellow Pie Plate”… That causes all the frustration, anger and Heartache for families and especially Successor Trustees (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Your Pie Plates may not be round and they may not be Yellow, but every family has its pie plates (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Setting and Managing Client Expectations is complicated • When… • Personal property comes with a lot of memories and emotion • Sentimental Value often translates into monetary value in the clients mind • Client has been influenced by TV shows • Money clouds judgment . (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 I might be sitting on a gold mine! I American Pickers Antiques Road Show At the Auction Cash and Cari What The Sell Treasure Hunters Clean House Storage Wars More shows appearing every day. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 It might be worth something! (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 IS THIS YOUR CLIENT? (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Blood out of Turnip Syndrome You’ve had it and used it for 20+ years and now you want your money back? Seriously? (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 VALUE IS NOT BASED ON WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT… SAD BUT TRUE! (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Value is based on: 1. If buyers want it (What the market will bear) 2. Scarcity 3. Collectability 4. Condition: If its dirty, damaged, missing parts, it may be worthless (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 What determines value?* Antique: (100+ years old) Historical Unique/Rare Collectible Currently in demand SCARCITY In other words: Are you sure anybody wants it? *Old does not always equal valuable (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Words to live by New: From the factory, never been used (still in the box, still has tags on.) Used: Product was opened and used Good Condition: Some signs of wear Excellent Condition: Used but no signs of wear. Vintage: Iconic, classic representation of the “best of “ of a certain period of time. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 It’s not easy to tell reproductions from the real deal. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Determine Value by Knowing your stuff! Clients will often be CONVINCED that the piece is rare and valuable based on family legend and heresay. They don’t like discovering the truth, will argue and may even “shoot the messenger”. This is a tough business! (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 With furniture, It’s all in the legs! A quick overview just so you understand the process. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Special:Se Colonial 1600-1800 Chippendale Heppelwhite current Windsor (Tavern Chair) (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Early American 1640-1700 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Queen Anne 1665-1714 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Federal 1789-1823 Size: Type: Duncan Phyfe (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Victorian 1837-1901 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Art Noveau 1890-1910 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Edwardian 1901-1910 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Art Deco 1920-1939 Size: Type: Iconic “armchair architecture” (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Mid Century Modern 1950-1969 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 American Folk Art Tole painting (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but… However beautiful handcraft work might be. Unless your Aunt Bertha was a well known artist With a proven sales record, those homemade items may be worth pennies on the dollar or donation worthy. Exception: Vintage clothing and textiles, but must be in Good condition (not dirty, stained, moldy, ripped, moth eaten, etc.) Samplers/Needlework (maybe) (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 The Market is very fickle One day something is “hot” and the next day it is not. It may be that there has been a sudden flood on the market. As populations age and die, certain period pieces flood onto the market: Art deco and Victorian do not bring high prices right now, except for very rare items. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 What’s Hot and What’s Not (at the moment) Hot • Sterling Silver based on • • • • Daily melt rate Name Pattern Condition • 1950’s Furniture (mid century modern) • European paintings • Asian (in Western States) • • • • • Not Silver Plate Victorian & Art Deco Furniture (with some “one off” exceptions) Old Pianos (can’t sell with ivory keys in most states) Old, brown, heavy, bulky wooden furniture Hummels, Lladro, Bradford Exchange, Franklin Mint, Thomas Kincade prints (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 A word about “collectables” 1. Magazines and TV advertising “collectables” are very misleading. 2. Their Target Market: •. ‘Wanna be’ investors who are distrustful of, or lack enough funds to invest in the stock market • Want to own something tangible rather than on paper (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Reality Check Items mass produced in factories ARE NOT SCARCE Even though individual items in these “collections” often cost $60+ each retail, Auction hammer prices range from $2- $5 each. Expensive Prints in Expensive Frames that sell in galleries for $1500+ and marketed as “limited editions”, usually resell for $25 at auction. You know something is wrong when… The galleries WILL NOT BUY them back. Moral: If you like these items, visit an Auction house rather than buy retail! (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Wise Words 1. Never buy Art for investment. 2. Only buy what you like. 3. Don’t expect any increase in value or to even get your money back on resale. 4. Be content that the Art makes you happy. 5. Any reputable Art Dealer will tell you this. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Are you beginning to realize that your clients need expert help with Estate Liquidation? “Due diligence means never having to say you‘re sorry” . Nobody wants to be haunted by “what ifs” and “if only” (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Internet Sales Model EBay: National Sales Craig’s List: Local Sales • Find out what price others are asking for the same kind of item. Doesn’t mean they’ll get it. • Postage/Shipping will be extra. • Find out what price locals are asking for the same kind of item: Personal Pickup up of item at your home Checks may bounce. Strangers in your home. News reports of fraud and murder. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Consignment Business Model Evaluate at approx 25% OF RETAIL VALUE just to move the merchandise. 50% Commission on Final sales price Many on staff are untrained in evaluation. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 On-site Estate Liquidation Business Model Potential Total Sales (value of property) must cover expenses and provide reasonable profit for Estate Liquidator as well as Estate 3-5 days paid staff for intensive labor to get ready for sale $250-$500 for print advertising 5 paid staff for 2-3 days of sale (sales & theft prevention) Usually a 50% split with EL and family Cost of Hauling/Donating what is left over Most likely need a minimum of $10,000 in sales to make it worthwhile. Average households usually do not qualify (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 DIY Garage Sales It had better be worth it (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Consider this about Garage Sales 1. Very labor intensive 2. Advance advertising will cost approx $300 or more 3. Buyers expect deals and clients will be insulted 4. What is not sold will have to be disposed of anyway 5. May not be in clients best interest a.House should not be seen before it is ready for sale. b.Exposes potential buyers to nosy and talkative neighbors (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Pawn Shop Business Model •Loan money *with interest and secured with goods as collateral •Usually expect repayment in 90 days •Also Buy outright and sell in their shop •Price determined by pawn shop owner. Usually 33% or less of retail price. •Remember, they have to re-sell it *Interest rate is set by individual State http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2009/ap r/10/1c11questiom172023-smartlivingpawn/ (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Pickers Business Model Dealers who shop for specific items for specific clients. Clients are usually NOT general public (unless Pickers also have their own retail store) Clients are: Interior designers, (homes and businesses) Set Designers Photographers Collectors They have a list of things clients have already requested. They will usually offer the seller 33% of retail value. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 AUCTION HOUSE Business Model The sum total value of the property is AT LEAST $1,000 (Some auction houses may have a different minimum) 2. Many will do estate clean-outs including ordinary household goods. 2. They take 30%-50% commission (rate goes down as hammer price goes up) 3. They usually dispose/donate what does not sell. 4. You have option to take back what does not sell (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Auction Houses have experts to properly value your property (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Here’s a tip: Stories Add Value! • If you have an old photo of the piece. • A story about it connected to a special event in history. • Document regarding the piece • If it is connected to a famous person, place or event. THIS IS CALLED A PROVENANCE and may add value. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Many Auction Houses… • Offer Free Appraisal Clinics • Will Appraise by Email (DIGITAL PHOTOS) for free* Written Appraisals for Insurance Purposes Are By Appointment only and You will be charged a Fee * An appraisal is not a guarantee of final hammer price. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Auction Turn Around Time • Auction usually takes place 30-90 days after Receipt of items. • Auction House may decide to schedule with a larger collection of the same genre or theme to increase probability of higher hammer price • Auction Houses have large lists of potential buyers for added exposure. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Storage Business Model (Delay) It’s too daunting. Let’s just store the stuff and think about it later. = (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 According to the National Association of Professional Organizers (NAPO) there is 7 sq feet of commercial storage space for every man woman and child in the USA (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 7 X 250 million square feet = (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 OR $150 X 12 months = $1800 per year (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Hauling Business Model 1. Find an “eco friendly” Hauler who will sort, re-cycle and donate for you. 2. Depending on location, one full truck = $500-$800+ 3. Haulers also clean up and sweep area! (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Donation Model • Charities are hurting right now • They will often do the entire cleanout for you at no charge if you have enough value • It’s the right thing to do. • Generosity blesses the donor • Tax deduction for client or estate (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 Gift to Friends and Relatives, especially if client is still living 1. Have a gifting party 2. Add fun by making it a raffle 3. Honor friends who will not be considered by surviving family and would love something of yours to remember you by. 4. Don’t cheat yourself out of “thank you’s” while you are alive. (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 I have found this quote to be very persuasive: “When you let go of what you have but don’t need, God can come in and bless you. But when you hold on to everything, there’s no room for new blessings.” • Jodie Watson, Organize Magazine, May 2008 (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013 RESOURCES “WhoGetsGrandma’sYellowPiePlate?Transferringnon‐ titled Property”, onlinearticlebyMarleneS.Stum,UniversityofMontana www.msuextension.org WhoGetsGrandma’sYellowPiePlate?AWorkbook, MarleneS. Stum,UniversityServicesPress,Feb1,1999 TheBoomerBurden, JulieHall,ThomasNelsonPress,Nashville,TN, 2009 MillersInternationalAntiquesPriceGuide,ReedBooksLtd,Kent, UK,2012 AmericanSocietyofEstateLiquidators(ASEL) 6420‐A1ReaRoad #135Charlotte,[email protected] 800‐272‐4431 ACCESSCODE"00" JulieHall,TheEstateLady.President,AmericaSocietyofEstate Liquidators704‐543‐1051 www.theestatelady.com NationalAssociationofSeniorMoveManagers(NASMM) www.nasmm.org NationalAssociationofProfessionalOrganizers(NAPO) www.napo.net (c) Lighthouse Organizers, LLC 2010,2011,2012,2013