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saxelmwifo moxele interviu saqarTvelos regionuli ganviTarebis da infrastruqturis ministr daviT narmaniasTan mini-dosie: daviT narmania daibada 1979 wlis 7 marts, zugdidSi. ganaTleba: 2000 wels daamTavra iv. javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis menejmentisa da mikroekonomikis fakulteti specialobiT „sagareo ekonomikuri saqmianobis organizacia da marTva“. mieniWa bakalavris xarisxi. 2002 wels mieniWa ekonomikis magistris samecniero xarisxi, saerTaSoriso biznesis menejeris kvalifikacia, „saerTaSoriso biznesis marTvis“ specialoba. 2006 wels daamTavra aspirantura da mieniWa ekonomikis akademiuri doqtoris xarisxi. samsaxurebrivi gamocdileba: 1999-2001 ww. saqarTvelos axalgazrda ekonomistTa asociacia, ekonomikuri ganaTlebis programis koordinatori. 2001-2003 ww. saqarTvelos sagadasaxado Semosavlebis da finansTa saministroebi: ufrosi specialisti da saministros saTaTbiro organos mdivani. 2003-2004 ww. „sazogadoebrivi ganviTarebis instituti“, sagadasaxado-sabiujeto programis koordinatori. 2004-2005 ww. kompania „biznes konsaltingis jgufi“, generaluri direqtori. 2005-2006 ww. „privatizebul sawarmoTa restruqturizaciisa da menejmentis daxmarebis centri“ _ CERMA, ufrosi biznes-konsultanti. 2006-2007 ww. „saqarTvelos axalgazrda ekonomistTa asociacia“, gamgeobis Tavmjdomare. 2008-2009 ww. „sakonsultacio-analitikuri trening-centri“, kvleviTi ganyofilebis ufrosi. 2009-2012 ww. „kavkasiis ekonomikuri da socialuri kvleviTi instituti“ _ CIESR, aRmasrulebeli direqtori. samecniero-analitikuri kvlevebi da saqmianoba: 1999-2010 ww. 24 samecniero da popularuli naSromis avtori da 34 samecniero naSromis Tanaavtori. 2004-2007 ww. saqarTvelos sazogadoebriv saqmeTa instituti _ GIPA, mowveuli profesori sajaro finansebis marTvis mimarTulebiT. 2007-2009 ww. saqarTvelos sazogadoebriv saqmeTa instituti _ GIPA, sruli profesori sajaro finansebis marTvis mimarTulebiT. 2009-2012 ww. iv. javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universiteti, asocirebuli profesori, menejmentis da administrirebis kaTedris gamge. jildoebi: jorj Sulcis saxelobis stipendia (1998/99 sasw. weli). saqarTvelos prezidentis jildo „studenturi dReebi 1999“-is egidiT gamarTul samecniero konferenciebSi II adgilis mopovebisaTvis. enebi: qarTuli, rusuli, inglisuri, germanuli. hyavs meuRle da erTi Svili. #1(34), 2013 5 – batono daviT, Tqveni reziumedan Cans, rom sanam ministri gaxdebodiT, sakmaod mravalferovani samuSao gamocdileba gqoniaT. – ministrobamde sakmaod bevrgan momiwia muSaoba: rogorc sajaro samsaxurSi, aseve kerZo da arasamTavrobo seqtorSi. Tavidan Cemi aqtiuroba „axalgazrda ekonomistTa asociaciaSi~ daiwyo, roca ekonomikuri ganaTlebis programas vxelmZRvanelobdi da Semdgom sxvadasxva kvleviT saqmianobaSi viyavi CarTuli. viyavi am organizaciis gamgeobis Tavmjdomaris moadgile da Semdeg gamgeobis Tavmjdomare. 2001-2002 wlebSi, roca swavla axali damTavrebuli mqonda, 2 weli sagadasaxado Semosavlebis da finansTa saministros sistemaSi vimuSave. Semdgom ramdenime ucxour proeqtSi konsultantad, mrCevlad, analitikosad vimuSave. axalgazrda ekonomistTa Tavmjdomareobis Semdeg germaniaSi samecniero staJirebis programiT viyavi, saidanac dabrunebis Semdeg germanel kolegebTan erTad „kavkasiis ekonomikuri da socialuri kvleviTi instituti“ – CIESR davafuZne da am institutis aRmasrulebeli direqtori gaxldiT. paralelurad, „jipasa“ da Tsu-Si vkiTxulobdi leqciebs da viyavi am saswavleblebis profesori. regionuli ganviTarebis kuTxiT bevri kvleva maqvs gakeTebuli. jamSi, Cemi kvlevebis da gamocemebis raodenoba 80-ze metia. amis Semdgom miviRe SemoTavazeba regionuli ganviTarebis da infrastruqturis ministris postze da davTanxmdi. – Tumca, sanam ministrobas SemogTavazebdnen, manamde ukve „qarTuli ocnebis“ ekonomikur programaze muSaobdiT. – viyavi CarTuli „qarTuli ocnebis“ ekonomikuri programis SemuSavebaSi da biznes-garemos samuSao jgufs vxelmZRvanelobdi. sabolood, koaliciis programis ekonomikurma nawilma Cems xelSi gaiara. ekonomikuri programa sakmaod didi doziT aris warmodgenili koaliciis programaSi. ekonomikaSi Zalian bevri problemuri sakiTxi iyo, razec Cven wlebis ganmavlobaSi vmuSaobdiT. – uSualod ministrobis SemoTavazeba visi mxridan moxda? – ministrobis SemoTavazeba nodar xadurisgan miviRe, romelic Cemi megobaria da wlebis ganmavlobaSi universitetSi erTad vmuSaobdiT, aseve, erTad vakeTebdiT kvlevebs. manamde koaliciis liders orjer Sevxvdi da ekonomikaSi arsebul problemebze da am problemebis mogvarebis gzebze visaubreT. erTxel, prezentaciac gavmarTe. roca daiwyo saministroebis xelmZRvanelebis kandidaturebis ganxilva, biZina ivaniSvilsa da nodar xadurs Soris iyo saubari, rom droebiT me damekavebina am saministros xelmZRvanelis pozicia. regionuli ganviTarebis da infrastruqturis saministros erTi nawili unda SeerTeboda ekonomikis da mdgradi ganviTarebis saministros, xolo meore nawili calke samsaxuris saxiT unda 6 Camoyalibebuliyo. amis Semdeg me unda gadavsuliyavi finansTa ministris pirvel moadgiled. – koaliciis mxridan Tavidan iyo gancxadeba, rom regionuli ganviTarebis saministro unda gauqmebuliyo da funqciebi sxva saministroebze gadanawilebuliyo. ram gamoiwvia gegmis Secvla? – roca Cven mdgomareoba SeviswavleT, vnaxeT Zali an bevri samuSao, romelic iyo mosawesrigebeli da gasakeTebeli. 200-ze meti erToblivad paralelur reJimSi mimdinare infrastruqturuli proeqtia am saministroSi. meore mxriv, ekonomikis saministro Zalian didi uwyebaa da iq bevri axali mimarTuleba daiwyo. amitom, roca vimsjeleT saministros infrastruqturuli nawilis SeerTebasTan dakavSirebiT, mivxvdiT, rom aseTi meqanikuri SeerTeba ar gamovidoda. Tumca, pirveli ianvridan erTi msxvili proeqti – „marabda-karwaxis“ rkinigza ekonomikis da mdgradi ganviTarebis saministros gadaveciT. Tematurad sarkinigzo politika am saministros daqvemdebarebaSia. yvela sxva proeqti CvenTan darCa. garda amisa, dagegmilia adgilobrivi TviTmmar Tvelobis masStaburi reforma, rac aucilebelia, saministros doneze arsebulma rgolma daiwyos, SeaTanxmos mTavrobasTan da maRali ndobis mandati hqondes im uwyebidan, romelic reformis erT-erTi iniciatoria. aqedan gamomdinare, gadawyda, rom saministro aRar gauqmebuliyo. – Sesabamisad, ministris moadgilis nacvlad, muSaobas ministris rangSi agrZelebT. – ki, jerjerobiT asea. Zalian bevri proeqti, #1(34), 2013 rac xarvezebiT xasiaTdeboda, Cemi xelmZRvanelobiT gamosworda. magaliTad, kaxeTis reabilitaciis proeqtebi SemiZlia davasaxelo. kidev bevri xarvezia gamosasworebeli da amisTvis didi Zalisxmevaa saWiro. bevri axali iniciativa gvaqvs, rac 2013 wlis samoqmedo gegmaSi detalurad gvaqvs gawerili da gamoqveyne bulia Cvens veb-gverdze. – Tqven dasawyisSi axseneT, rom ministrobamde sxvadasxva poziciaze imuSaveT: sajaro samsaxurSi, kerZo seqtorSi, arasamTavrobo organizaciaSi. sad ufro komfortulad migaCniaT muSaoba da sad ufro gaqvT warmatebis Sansi? – erTi SexedviT Sefasebis gakeTeba Znelia. Tu SegiZlia gacilebiT metad datvirTulad imuSao da Tu xar mowodebuli, rom gaakeTo saqme, romelic yvelaze metad waadgeba xalxs, am SemTxvevaSi es saministro Zalian kargi saSualebaa. rac wlebis ganmavlobaSi gamocdileba gaqvs dagrovebuli, SegiZlia saqmed aqcio. Tu ufro kvlevebTan da analitikur saqmianobasTan ginda gqondes saqme, aseT SemTxvevaSi Cemi wina pozicia, roca kvleviT organizacias vxelmZRvanelobdi, Zalian kargi saSualeba iyo. Tumca, sazogadoebis SedarebiT viwro wre micnobda, romelic kiTxulobda an iyenebda kvlevebs. is ufro komfortuli samuSaoa, amJamindeli ki bevrad mZime. – rogoria Tqveni saministros memkvidreoba: dRevandeli xelisuflebisgan gvesmis, rom yvelaferi cudia, wina xelisufleba ambobs, rom piriqiT – Zalian bevri saqme gaakeTes da axal xelisuflebas sakmaod kargi garemo daxvda samuSaod. – Tavis droze bevri kargi proeqti iyo inicirebuli. magaliTad, avtomagistralis mSenebloba wlebis manZilze erT-erTi yvelaze warmatebuli proeqti iyo. magram, aseve bevri samuSaos Sesruleba Cqara xdeboda da siCqareSi ver viRebdiT iseT xarisxian infrastruqturul produqts, romelic ufro xangrZlivad iqneboda gamoyenebuli. aseve, calkeul proeqtebTan mimarTebaSi samarT lebrivi problemebi dagvxvda. ar arsebobda mSeneblobis nebarTvebi; sxvadasxva infrastruqturis reabili taciis procesSi darRveuli iyo kulturuli da istoriuli memkvidreobis wesebi. aqamde rac SevZeliT, maqsimalurad gamovasworeT. magaliTad, Telavis reabilitaciis procesi udidesi darRvevebiT mimdina reobda, axla am sakiTxebs Cven vasworebT. vmuSaobT, rom ufro meti saqme gavakeToT, bevri proeqti wavwioT win da sazogadoebam dainaxos, rom Cven maTze da maT keTildReobaze realurad vzrunavT. – rame iseTi dagxvdaT saministroSi, rac gamousworebelia? – rac gamousworebelia, aris calkeuli uxarisxod gakeTebuli sareabilitacio samuSaoebi. zogan gzebze, zogan municipaluri infrastruqturis reabilitaciaze, romelsac veRarafers vuSveliT. magaliTad, #1(34), 2013 municipaluri ganviTarebis fondis mier uxarisxod dagebuli gza kaxeTis erT-erT monakveTSi aris uxa risxo da aRaraferi eSveleba. daxarjulia resursi, gakeTebulia uxarisxod da male isev Tavidan gasakeTe beli gaxdeba. iseve, rogorc 14 Tvis win dagebuli gza quTaisis SesasvlelSi, samtrediis mxridan. gza ukve Tavidan gasakeTebelia. aseve aris problemuri uxarisxod Sesrulebuli sxva infrastruqturuli proeqtebi. – bolodroindeli stiqiis sakiTxebsac SevexoT: aseTi gancxadebebic iyo mTavrobis warmomadgenlebis mxridan, igive aWaraSi mTavrobis xelmZRvaneli ambobda, rom sanapiro zolis datborva wina xelisuflebis bralia. aseve, goris mxares saxuravebis gadaxdac yofil xelisuflebas daabrales. Tqveni gancxadeba iyo, rom gamoikveTa 3 kompania, vinc gadaxurvebi awarmoa gorSi. am SemTxvevaSi, Tu kompaniebis pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi dgeba, romlebmac samuSaoebi uxarisxod Seasrules, wina xelisufleba ra SuaSia? prezidentis rwmunebuli andro barnovi ambobs, rom samuSaoebis xarisxianad Sesrulebaze samxaraulis eqspertizis biuros daskvnac arsebobs... – kompaniebma Seasrules samuSaoebi xelisuflebis dakveTiT. roca miReba-Cabareba xdeboda da uxarisxod iyo gakeTebuli, aseT SemTxvevaSi ar unda Caebarebina xelisuflebas. – Tu samxaraulis biuros daskvna arsebobs, rom samuSaoebi normis farglebSia Sesrulebuli? – esec sanaxavia, risi daskvna iyo. magram erTi ram faqtia – vizualuradac Cans, rom gadaxurva Zalian Txeli masalisgan aris Sesrulebuli. xis masalac Zalian Sori-Sors aris saxuravebze gamoyenebuli. TviTon erT-erTi kompaniis warmomadgenelic ambobs, rom maT ufro naklebi saxuravebi unda gaekeTebinaT, magram daavales da ufro meti raodenoba gaakeTebines. barnovi ras ambobs, es ar aris mniSvnelovani. arsebiTi aris is, rom 2012 wels gadaxurul yvela saxlze Seiqmna problema da xelwera yvelgan erTi da igivea. es aris is, riTac unda daviwyoT msjeloba: ratom 2012 wels gadaxuruli yvela korpusi, ratom yvela am sami kompaniis mier gadaxuruli, ratom aris xSir SemTxvevaSi meoradi masala gamoyenebuli, romlis nawilic gamousadegari iyo, ratom iyo Txeli xis masala da ase Semdeg. – ubralod, imazea miniSneba, rom kompaniebma daaSaves, magram politikuri gancxadebebi ra saWiroao. – politika im SuaSia, rom rasac atarebda wina xelisufleba, imis Semadgeneli nawilia esec. es ar SeiZleba konteqstidan amoglejilad ganvixiloT. imitom, rom Cqara akeTebdnen da metisTvis unda eCvenebinaT, rom akeTebdnen da sazogadoeba miiRebda amiT sargebels. pirobiTad, vTqvaT, 15 korpusisTvis sakmarisi masala gadaanawiles 50 korpusze. 7 – wesiT, Tu aseTi informacia gaqvT, gamoZieba unda daiwyos. – gamoZiebam unda daadginos. dadgenili jer ar aris, magram gamoZieba daiwyeba. – prezidentis rwmunebulma isic Tqva, stiqiis Semdeg Tu vinme muSaobda gawmendiT samuSaoebze, es iyo prezidentis rwmunebulis daqvemdebarebaSi arsebuli samaSvelo samsaxuri, romelsac centraluri xelisufleba dRemde ar aZlevs sawvavs, ar uxdis eleqtroenergiis, wylis da bunebrivi airis gadasaxads. – ar mainteresebs, barnovi ras ambobs da mis gancxa debebze komentirebas ar vapireb. barnovi da misi kolegebi am stiqiis Semdeg gareT ar gamosulan da aravis ukiTxavs, sad ra mdgomareobaa. ase rom, aseTi adamianebis gamonaTqvamebze komentirebas ar vapireb. – maSin, gadavideT sxva sakiTxze. dReis monacemebiT, Tqven uSualod xarT CarTuli stiqiiT miye nebuli Sedegebis aRmofxvraze. Tu aris zarali sabolood daTvlili da ra Tanxebia saWiro, rom es samuSaoebi dasruldes? – zaralis moculoba miaxloebiT 6 milion laramdea, romlis erTi nawilic aWaraSi napirdacviT sareabilitacio samuSaoebs dasWirdeba. danarCeni saxuravebis SekeTebasTan dakavSirebuli xarjebia. resursebi gamoyofilia saxelmwifo biujetidan da adgilobriv TviTmmarTvelobebs gadaecema. jer TviTmmarTvelobebi axdenen sakuTar biujetebSi akumulirebuli Tanxebis xarjvas, romelsac faqtobrivi xarjvis mixedviT saqarTvelos finansTa saministro SeuvsebT. – aWaraSi napirsamagri samuSaoebic cudad iyo gakeTebuli da magis gamo iyo zarali, Tu stiqia iyo Zalian Zlieri? – stiqia marTlac Zalian Zlieri iyo. ver vityvi, rom napirsamagri samuSaoebi uxarisxod iyo Sesrulebuli. faqtia, napirdacva mosagvarebeli iyo da wina xelisuflebam daiwyo kidec proeqtis gakeTeba, Tanxa 2014 wels unda gamoyofiliyo. ase rom, rac iq aris ziani, amas samuSaoebis uxarisxod gakeTebas ver davab ralebT. napirdacva nawilobriv gakeTebulic iyo, magram imdenad Zlieri Stormi da Relva iyo, rom amas ver gauZlebda. – gamodis, rom aWaraSi stiqia iyo damnaSave da ara uxarisxod warmoebuli samuSaoebi. – ki, asea. aseve, magaliTad, ozurgeTis municipalitetis teritoriaze Zlierma qarma da stiqiam gamoiwvia zarali. iq saxlebi zogan soflebis mixedviT aris dazianebuli, zogan skolis Senobis saxuravia dazianebuli, saxuravebi sxvadasxva periodSia gake Tebuli. maTi umetesoba siZvelis gamo dazianda da ara imiT, rom uxarisxod iyo gakeTebuli. – stiqiis Sedegebis mTlianad aRmofxvras savara udod ra dro dasWirdeba? – saxuravebi morCeba maqsimum 15 aprilisTvis. 8 aWaris teritoriaze napirgamagrebiT samuSaoebs, eleqtro-boZebis aRdgenas da ase Semdeg, cota meti dro dasWirdeba. magram, turistul sezonamde egec moeswreba. – wina xelisuflebis mier dawyebuli romeli infrastruqturuli proeqti aRar gagrZeldeba da romlis dasrulebas apirebT? – yvela proeqti grZeldeba da amas mgoni meaTasejer vimeoreb. es imis gamoc aris gamowveuli, rom prezidenti yoveldRiurad imeorebs, qveyanaSi infrastruqturuli proeqtebi SeCerdao. sruli pasuxismgeblobiT SemiZlia vTqva, rom arcerTi proeqti ar SeCerebula. gadavxedeT zogierTs, iseTi, rogoricaa „oqros qviSebi“ da sxva Zalian Zviriani proeqtebi. msgavsi mSeneblobis fufuneba Cvens qveyanas ar gaaCnia. aris Zalian mZime socialuri foni da Zalian bevri ufro yofiTi problemebia mosagvarebeli. gasakeTeb elia wyalmomarageba, gzebia mosawesrigebeli da ase Semdeg. – „oqros qviSis“ proeqti aRar gakeTdeba? – „oqros qviSis“ proeqti aris gadaxedili da „oqros qviSebis“ nacvlad iq Woroxis qviSa-xreSovani masa iqneba gamoyenebuli. amiT proeqtSi daizogeba 80 milioni lari, romelic sxva ufro mniSvnelovani problemebis mogvarebas moxmardeba. – proeqtebis SeCerebis Sesaxeb gavrcelebul mosazrebebs mxolod prezidentis gancxadebebs albaT ver davabralebT. es garkveulwilad TbilisSi asaSenebeli xidis proeqtze uaris Tqmasac mohyva. – TbilisSi xids rac Seexeba, konkretulad es proeqti ar iyo dakontraqtebuli da arc fuli yofila gamoyofili. arsebobs mxolod proeqti. Tumca, #1(34), 2013 es xidi rom gakeTdes, ra mdgomareobaSi iqneba samtrediis quCa – es Sesaswavlia. garda amisa, TviTon uSualod meriisgan miviReT 500-ze meti xelmowera samtrediis quCis macxovreblebisgan, romlebic am proeqtis ganxorcielebas ewinaaRmdegebian. amitom, Cven gvWirdeba dro, rom damatebiT SeviswavloT da mere gadavwyvitoT – gakeTdes Tu ara es proeqti. xidi rom avaSenoT da problemebi Seiqmnas, pasuxismgebloba Cven dagvekisreba da ara gigi ugulavas imitom, rom mag dros ugulava qalaqis meri aRar iqneba. aseTi masStaburi xidis gakeTebas minimum 2-3 weli sWirde ba. – kaxeTSi SarSandeli stiqiis gamo gacemuli kompensaciebis mimarT dRemde arsebobs ukmayofilo xalxi. periodulad gamodian xolme da amboben, kompensaciebis gacema SerCeviT moxdao. es Tema rodis damTavrdeba, rom kompensaciebis gacemis sakiTxi dasrulda da yvelam miiRo, visac ekuTvnoda? – kompensaciebis gacemis process male vamTavrebT. gancxadebebi Semodis usasrulod da roca vswavlobT, maTi udidesi nawili usafuZvloa. Cven aviReT is zonebi, sadac stiqia iyo, 97-ma adgilobrivma komisiam imuSava, detalurad aRiwera 28 500 ojaxi da Sedga Sesabamisi anketa. es monacemebi damuSavda da miuyenes mosavlianobis da RirebulebiTi koeficientebi. gamoangariSeba aqedan gamomdinare moxda. ase rom, damatebiTi gancxadebebi rac Semodis, yvela gancxadebas vixilavT, magram maTi udidesi nawili aris usafuZvlo. umetesoba wers „iqneb rame gamovides“ – am principiT. 97 milion laramde ukve gacemulia. saxuravebis gadaxurvisTvis daaxloebiT 2 milion laramdea daxarjuli. jamSi kompensaciebi da saxuravebze daxarjuli Tanxa 100 milion laramde iqneba. – Cven visaubreT wina xelisuflebis dros dawyebuli proeqtebis gagrZelebaze. rac axali xelisuf leba movida, TqvenTan raime axali proeqtebi Tu damtkicda da daiwyo Sesruleba? – axali proeqtebia wyalmomaragebis sistemis mowesrigebis samuSaoebi 25 municipalitetSi, avtomagistralis samtredia-grigoleTis monakveTi. regionebSi gansaxorcielebeli proeqtebis fondidan 200 milioni lari, rac nawildeba adgilobriv TviTmmarTvelobebze – amis administrirebasac Cveni saministro axorcielebs. 2012-dan 2013 wels bevri gardamavali proeqti gadmogvyva. es proeqtebi unda bolomde miviyvanoT. 2012 weli saarCevno weli iyo, Zalian didi valdebulebebi ikisra wina xelisuflebam. amitom, es inicirebuli proeqtebi rom ar SevaCeroT, Cveni resursebis didi nawili swored gardamavali proeqtebis dafinansebaze midis. plus, axla vmuSaobT donor organizaciebTan 2014 wlis gegmebze. – romelime axal proeqtze samuSaoebi Tu aris dawyebuli? – samuSaoebi dawyebulia, magaliTad, magistralze – es aris zestafoni-quTaisis monakveTis erTi nawili, #1(34), 2013 romelic dakontraqtda 1 Tvis win da gaveciT avansi 23 milioni lari. kidev aris ramdenime SedarebiT mcire proeqti, romelze muSaobac mimdinareobs. – saerTaSoriso donor organizaciebTan damo kidebuleba xom ar Secvlila dafinansebis zrdisken an Semcirebisken? – dafinansebis Semcirebaze saubari ar yofila. yvela donorTan gvaqvs urTierToba. me viyavi vaSin gtonSi, msoflio bankSi. Cemi moadgile imyofeboda manilaSi – aziis ganviTarebis bankSi. aqac vxvdebiT maT warmomadgenlebs. Cven ukve vmuSaobT Semdgomi 3 wlis samoqmedo gegmebze, rom warvudginoT Cveni prioritetebi da dafinansebaze SevTanxmdeT. Tumca, saxelmwifos mxridan momlaparakebeli organo saqarTvelos finansTa saministroa, romlis mier miRebuli gadawyvetilebis safuZvelze Cven ukve uSualo saqmianobas viwyebT xolme. arcerTSi saerTaSoriso donors saqarTvelosTan mimarTebiT damokidebuleba ar Seucvlia. donorebTan mimarTebiT Cveni politika aris, rom gamoyofili resursebidan meti Sedegi miviRoT, Tanxebi vxarjoT efeqtianad da rac SeiZleba gavzardoT infrastruq turuli proeqtebis xarisxi. Cveni biujetis 2/3 donorebis mier finansdeba,1/3mde aris sabiujeto Tanadafinanseba. – Tqveni iniciativa iyo, biznesmenebs regulacia dauwesdeT, rom minimum 70% adgilobrivi daasaqmos. es regulacia kidev ufro xom ar gaarTulebs baTumis sanapiro Stormis Semdeg 9 bizness saqarTveloSi? SesaZloa, adgilobrivi specialisti ar arsebobs, an ucxoeli ufro nakleb fasad Tanxmdeba samuSaos Sesrulebas? – ara, amis safrTxe namdvilad ar dgas. roca Cven vambobT, rom 70% mainc adgilobrivi kadri iyos dasaqmebuli, es niSnavs, rom danarCeni 30% mas SeuZ lia, vinc unda is daasaqmos. Cveni mTavari interesia, adgilze darCes is Semosavlebi, rasac dasaqmebuli adamianebi iReben. met adamians unda SeeZlos infrastruqturul proeqtebSi TanamonawileobiT irCinos Tavi da arCinos ojaxi. es regulacia exeba ucxour kompaniebs, raTa maT ar Semoiyvanon mxolod ucxoelebi da ar aRmoCndes ise, rom mxolod ucxoelebi muSaobdnen da Cveni adamianebi mSier-mwyurvalebi uyurebdnen ucxoeTidan Semosuli fuliT momuSave moqmed ucxour kompanias. aravis vemterebiT, magram Cveni moqalaqeebis dasaqmeba aris Cveni saxelmwifos umTavresi amocana. Zalian bevri saxelmwifo ase akeTebs. aba, mivides romelime qarTuli kompania ucxour bazarze da Seiyvanos ramdeni adamianic unda, imdeni qarTveli!? versad ver gaakeTebs amas. arc Cven vigonebT axal velosipeds. infrastruqturuli proeqtebis ZiriTadi nawili teqnikuri xasiaTis samuSaoebia da aseT samuSaoebs maincdamainc maRali kvalifikacia ar sWirdeba. rodesac sainJinro gadawyvetilebebzea saubari, swored amisTvis vutovebT im 30% arCevans, rom kompaniam daiqiravos Sesabamisi personali: Tu unda sazRvargareTidan Camoiyvanos, Tu unda adgilze moZebnos. – regionuli ganviTarebis da infrastruqturis saministro ramdenad aris damoukidebeli gadaw yvetilebis miRebisas? cxadia, saministros politika mTliani mTavrobis politikasTan TanxvedraSi unda iyos, magram SedarebiT mcire proeqtebis Tanxmobaze an uaris Tqmaze gadawyvetilebis miRebaSi ramdenad damoukidebeli saministro xarT? Tu sabolood mainc gadawyvetilebas premier-ministri iRebs? – ZiriTadi gadawyvetilebebis nawili saministros doneze miiReba da arc premieri gvavalebs, rom yvela wvrili gadawyvetileba masTan SevaTanxmoT. roca municipaluri ganviTarebis fondis proeqtebzea saubari, municipaluri ganviTarebis fonds hyavs Tavisi sameTvalyureo sabWo da sameTvalyureo sabWoze xdeba ZiriTadi gadawyvetilebebis miReba. gzebTan, wyalmomaragebasTan dakavSirebul sakiTxebze yvela ZiriTadi gadawyvetileba uSualod saministroSi miiReba. Tu aris msxvili proeqtebi, aseT SemTxvevaSi mTavrobasTan vaTanxmebT. es kanonmdeblobiTac aris dadgenili, rom garkveuli proeqtebi kanonmdeblobis mixedviT mTavrobasTan SeTanxmdes. – dRevandel mTavrobaSi ministrebs ramdenad aqvT sakuTari damoukidebeli poziciis gamoxatvis da dacvis saSualeba? Semajamebel preskonferenciaze premierma ivaniSvilma mTavrobis wevrebi 10 gaakritika kidec – ganaTlebis ministri giorgi margvelaSvili marto datoveT brZolaSi da mxardaWera ar gamoucxadeT, roca agraruli universitetisTvis avtorizaciis gauqmebis gamo edavebodneno. – am qveyanaSi erTi adamiani ukve aRar iRebs gadaw yvetilebebs. mTavroba ZiriTadad kolegialuri organoa da yovelkvireulad Zalian bevr sakiTxze vmsje lobT. aris Temebi, rac uSualod saqarTvelos premier-ministrTan Tanxmdeba. magram yvela saministro mis qvemdebare sakiTxebze ZiriTadad TviTon iRebs gadawyvetilebas. premier-ministri xSir SemTxvevaSi ambobs, rom es aris Tqveni Tema, Tqven TviTonve unda ganixiloT da gadawyvitoT, an moamzadoT sakiTxi ufro metad da mere miitanoT mTavrobis sxdomaze an premier-ministrTan. ase rom, am TvalsazrisiT gacilebiT ufro metad decentralizebulia gadaw yvetilebebi. – sayvedurs ramdenad samarTlianad miiCnevT, rom kolega brZolaSi miatoveT? – Cven sadac saWiro varT, yvelgan verTvebiT. agraruli universitetisTvis avtorizaciis CamorTmeva ganaTlebis saministros Tema iyo da Cveni CarTvis aucilebloba da saWiroeba ver davinaxe. Tumca, ganaTlebis saministros CvenTvis rom eTxova, davdgebodiT iq, sadac saWiro iyo. iseve, rogorc, magaliTad, stiqiasTan dakavSirebul sakiTxebze ramdenime saministro bolo dReebis ganmavlobaSi erTmaneTs mxarSi amoudga da ase varT. ase rom, iq sadac saWiroa, konsolidacia unda iyos. sadac ar aris saWiro – jobia calkeulma saministroebma TviTon imuSaon. – ministris ampluaSi samecniero muSaobis gag rZelebas Tu axerxebT da Tu gaqvT urTierToba arasamTavrobo organizaciebTan? – udroobis gamo samecniero muSaobas, samwuxarod, ver vaxerxeb. arasamTavrobo organizaciebTan TanamSromlobas vagrZeleb. Cveni muSaobis erT-erTi mTavari principi gamWvirvalobaa da vavrcelebT informacias, vawvdiT maT, vRebulobT mosazrebebs. romelsac me vxelmZRvanelobdi, im arasamTavrobo organizaciasTan, TavisTavad, ar vTanamSromlob: verc xelmZRvaneli viqnebi, verc sabWoSi, ubralod, organizaciis damfuZneblad vrCebi. arasamTavrobo seqtorTan da sxva arasamTavrobo organizaciebTan mWidrod vTanamSromlobT da gvaqvs Zalian kargi komunikacia. aseve aqtiurad vmuSaobT mediasTan. rasac Cven vakeTebT, informacia maqsimalurad unda mivides sazogadoebamde, aseve gavigoT is, rac sWirdeba sazogadoebas. 2013 wlis Cveni samoqmedo gegmis me-10 punqti swored sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis sakiTxebs exeba da iq Zalian mkafiod gvaqvs gawerili, Tu rogori formiT vakeTebT amas. – Tqvens saministroSi axali kadrebis SerCeva rogor xdeba, an ramdenad aris Sansi, rom Tqveni saministroc moxvdes iseT angariSebSi, sadac politikuri niSniT aTavisufleben an Rebuloben #1(34), 2013 TanamSromlebs? – Cveni saministro ver moxvdeba im rigebSi, sadac aseTi rame xdeba. Cven vapirebT Zalian male konkursis Catarebas. saministros centralur aparatSi, nebis mier dainteresebul adamians SeeZleba Semoitanos gancxadeba da miiRos monawileoba sajaro konkursSi. mas eqnebaT SesaZlebloba, dasaqmdes Cveni saministros sistemaSi. – konkursi vis Seexeba? – es iqneba yvelasTvis, ministrisa da moadgileebis garda. – gamodis, mTlianad icvleba TanamSromlebi. – nawili, albaT, Zveli darCeba, vinc konkursSi gava da Sesabamisi kvalifikacia aRmoaCndeba. nawili ki axali kadrebiT Seivseba. ise, rogorc es sajaro samsaxuris Sesaxeb kanonSi Setanili cvlilebebiT aris gaTvaliswinebuli, Cven valdebuli varT, CavataroT sajaro konkursi. aq konkursi arasdros Catarebula da vinc aq muSaobs, yvelani movaleobis Semsruleblebi arian. – konkursi rodis aris dagegmili? – am gazafxulze Catardeba. – Tu iciT, sxva saministroebSic igive igegmeba? – sxva saministroebSic analogiurad unda Catardes konkursebi. – Tqveni momavlis gegmebi rogoria – politikaSi xangrZlivad da aqtiurad yofnas apirebT Tu sxva gegmebi gaqvT? – me vfiqrob, rom ar var politikaSi. me var aRmasrulebeli da im saministroebs Soris, romlebic mTavrobaSi arian, Cveni saministroc erT-erTi aRmasrulebeli saministroa, romelic sxvadasxva proeqtebs da programebs asrulebs. Cemi da Cems gverdiT myofi adamianebis konkretuli gegmebi is aris, rom rac SeiZ leba meti kargi saqme gavakeToT. adgilobrivi TviT mmarTvelobis reforma gavataroT. ganvaxorcieloT infrastruqturuli programebi da proeqtebi, rac SeiZleba ukeTesi Sedegi miiRos mosaxleobam. ramdeni xanic SevZlebT amis gakeTebas – vapirebT rom gavakeToT. – Tavisufali dro Tu grCebaT, rogor atarebT? – Tavisufali dro TiTqmis aRar mrCeba, Tu kvira dRis meore naxevars ar CavTvliT. sxva dReebSi gvianobamde miwevs muSaoba da Sin gvian mivdivar. zogjer kvira dResac regionebSi mivdivar. Tu Tavisufali dro mrCeba, aucileblad Sin, ojaxTan erTad vatareb. myavs meuRle da samwlinaxevris bavSvi, meores agvistos bolos velodebiT. ojaxSi yofna CemTvis yvelaze kargi gantvirTvaa. gantvirTvis sxva saSualeba, rogoric nadiroba an seirnobaa – karga xania am fufunebas ver vRebulob. daviT narmania meuRlesTan da SvilTan erTad #1(34), 2013 esaubra Temur iobaSvili 11
