Community Feedback Report

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Bexley Swimming and Leisure Centre
Community Feedback Report
28 March 2012
Bexley Swimming and Leisure Centre Community Feedback Report
28 March 2012
Contents
1.
Introduction.............................................................................................................................. 3
1.1 Feedback Form Background ............................................................................................. 3
1.2 Community Engagement................................................................................................... 3
2.
Feedback Results .................................................................................................................... 5
3.
Written Submissions ............................................................................................................. 12
4.
3.1
Peak Bodies.................................................................................................................... 12
3.2
Educational Institutions................................................................................................... 20
3.3
General Public ................................................................................................................ 27
Appendixes ............................................................................................................................ 35
1
Online and Media Stories ................................................................................................ 35
2
Detailed Responses to Question 5.................................................................................. 47
3
Detailed Responses to Question 6.................................................................................. 52
4
Individual letters from Year 5 at Athelstane Public School ............................................. 79
5
Individual letters from Year 6 at Athelstane Public School ........................................... 106
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Rockdale City Council
Introduction
1.1
Feedback Form Background
At the Council meeting held on 7 December 2011, Council resolved to reaffirm its commitment to
the Pool proposal and to progress the Bexley Pool Upgrade project to public exhibition and
engagement for the period 13 December 2011 to 2 March 2012.
The findings of the community consultation are outlined in this report.
Feedback from the community was received via:
- online and hardcopy feedback forms
- written submissions
- feedback via The Leader (local newspaper)
1.2
Community Engagement
Duration
The community consultation and engagement period was from 13 December 2011 to 2 March
2012. Additional feedback received up to and including 27 March 2012 has been included in this
report.
Distribution and advertising of community engagement:
Article in Rockdale Review;
Posters in local libraries, Customer Service Centre and Bexley Swimming Centre;
Flyer for general distribution;
Council website – a dedicated section on the home page and a link to Have Your Say/Public
Exhibition;
Letters to all residents immediately adjoining the perimeter of the Site inviting them to attend
consultation meetings;
Letters/email to the Reference Group and interested community members who have provided
their contact details to Council;
Advertisement in the local newspaper – 3 times during the engagement period;
Media Briefing with local and ethnic media; and
Media Release – local and ethnic newspapers.
We received feedback from:
Residents of Rockdale City
Users of the pool who live within and outside of Rockdale City
Students, teachers and principals of schools who use the pool
Major swimming bodies and associations
1659
- Total submissions received
1598
61
- Feedback forms
- Written submission
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Feedback Results
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Feedback Results
Question 1: Overall, to what extent do you support the Bexley Swimming and Leisure
Centre Proposal?
4%
2%
2%
92%
Totally support the Proposal
Somewhat support the Proposal
Totally oppose the Proposal
Skipped question
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Question 2: Which facilities of Proposal would you most likely use? (tick all that apply)
100%
90%
80%
70%
60%
50%
40%
30%
20%
10%
0%
Outdoor 50m Indoor 25m
pool with
pool
seating and
shade
Fitness,
exercise and
gym
Kiosk
Indoor learn Spa, Sauna
to swim
Room and
exercise pool Steam Room
Indoor
children's
play pool
Community
rooms
Creche
I am unlikely
to use any of
the facilities
Question 3: How often would you use the Proposed Bexley Swimming and Leisure Centre?
and
Question 4: How often do you visit the current Bexley Swimming Centre?
45.0%
40.0%
35.0%
30.0%
25.0%
20.0%
15.0%
10.0%
5.0%
0.0%
Daily
Two or three
times a week
Once a week
Once a month or
less
Not at all
How often would you use the Proposed Bexley Swimming & Leisure Centre?
How often do you visit the current Bexley Swimming Centre?
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Question 5: Do you have any concerns with the proposal?
Yes / No
100%
86%
90%
80%
70%
60%
50%
40%
30%
20%
14%
10%
0%
No
Yes
Yes (tick box selections)
140
125
116
120
Of the 10% who had a
concern, the following
concerns were listed
108
100
80
59
60
40
20
21
21
Location
Spend the
money on
something else
0
Traffic, parking Other (please
and patron
specify)
issues
Cost
Size
Other (please comment)
116 respondents provided further comments that fell into the below categories. The detailed
responses are reproduced in Appendix 2.
Facilities
Community Benefit
Environment
Capital Cost
Parking
Management
Timing / Delivery
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21
16
15
13
12
11
9
Delivery / Timing
User Costs / Needs
Traffic
Miscellaneous
Location
Learn to swim
6
6
2
2
2
1
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Question 6: Do you have any other comments?
The 672 comments received have been grouped under the below key headings. The detailed
responses are reproduced in Appendix 3.
Capital Cost
Carnivals
Community Benefit
Disability
Environment
Facilities
Health
Learn to swim
Location
Management
Miscellaneous
Parking
Patronage
Praise
Timing / Delivery
Traffic
Upgrade Needed
User Costs / Needs
Year Round Use
Total
21
25
257
6
8
80
15
34
7
11
7
8
32
45
70
6
25
4
11
672
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Question 7: What is your postcode?
168
125
57
576
101
192
65
40
19
150
The above illustration highlights the:
• Rockdale City Local Government Area.
• Postcodes associated with Rockdale City.
• Number of feedback forms respondents that disclosed a postcode associated with
Rockdale City.
• Number of feedback forms respondents that disclosed a postcode that is located either
north, south or west of Rockdale City.
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Written Submissions
Written submissions were received from the following:
3.1 Peak Bodies
3.2 Educational Institutions
3.3 General Public
8
7
49
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Written Submissions
3.1 Peak Bodies
Swimming Australia
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•
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Seeks to become Australia’s leading sport
through increased participation,
continued outstanding performance and
commercial excellence
Has almost 100,000 members and just
over 1100 swimming clubs nationwide.
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Department of Education and Training - School Sport Unit
School Swimming Scheme
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•
•
Commenced in NSW Government primary
schools in 1954.
A learn to swim program that develops
water confidence and provides students
with basic skills in water safety and
survival
Provides students with Government
funded free swimming and water safety
instruction
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Aussi Masters Swimming - New South Wales
•
•
To provide at club, state and national level an
environment to encourage all adults, regardless of
ability, to swim regularly and compete in order to
promote fitness and improve their general well
being.
Motto - “fitness, friendship and fun”.
:
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Swimming New South Wales - Swimming NSW Aquatic
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•
•
To foster, control and develop swimming
in NSW (including the ACT)
Aspire to become New South Wales'
leading sport through increased
participation, enhanced performance and
through the provision of quality life skills
developing programs for the community
thereby becoming an influential leader in
the aquatic industry
Currently maintains a membership of over
37,000 members across 13 affiliated Areas
and over 380 Clubs
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Royal Life Saving - New South Wales Branch
•
Works to prevent drowning and facilitate
healthy, active lifestyles by equipping all
Australians with water safety skills.
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Austswim
•
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Every Australian will be taught to swim by
an accredited AUSTSWIM teacher™,
enabling them to safely enjoy aquatic
environments and activities.
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Australian Water Safety Council
•
The Australian Water Safety Strategy aims
to achieve a 50% reduction in drowning
deaths by the year 2020.
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3.2 Educational Institutions
St Gabriel’s Primary School
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•
•
•
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Ensuring quality teaching and learning
Making a difference in our World
Serving the Church and the community
through acts of justice
Celebrating being Catholic in Australia
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Tempe High School
•
•
Provide an innovative education for our
selective and mainstream students in a
safe and harmonious multicultural
environment. High quality teaching and
professional standards are supported with
the latest technology.
"Labora Fortiter" "Work Hard"
Kingsgrove North High School
•
•
•
To Achieve, Learn and Lead.
Promoting excellence in a caring and
supportive environment.
Students have two basic rights at our
school: the right to learn and the right to
safety.
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Kogarah High School
•
Delivering Quality Education
•
Courtesy Loyalty Courage
•
An Anglican School for Girls
Earlwood Public School
Danebank Girls School
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Athelstane Public School
•
•
•
•
•
•
Provide an accepting and inclusive
environment for all students.
Value all members of the school
community
Facilitate student achievement in all areas
of the school curriculum.
Recognise and celebrate achievements of
the school community.
Encourage student involvement and
responsibility for their learning.
Support students in taking responsibility
for their behaviour.
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The individual letters from Year 5 are attached in Appendix 4
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The individual letters from Year 6 are attached in Appendix 5
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3.3 General Public
Following are the general public’s written submissions:
I'm married with two children. We reside in Bexley for over a decade under Rockdale Council's guidance
and governance. We are writing to you in regards to Bexley Pool as requested in last weeks Leader for
suggestions and ideas for Bexley Leisure Pool complex. We would like to put one forward and suggest a
water polo pool either 20m length x 10m width or 30m length x 20m width - 1.8m (6 feet) the goals are 3m
wide and 0.9m high. We use Hosedown Balls and are generally yellow. You have 2m red line for referees
to be clear on the rules and assist them and recent 5m line for either a penalty throw or shot or to swim
with the ball designated yellow line. The centre of the pool marked by 5m lime line. You have 7 players in
water for each side, with one side dark colour caps and the other light colour caps, the goal keeper wears
red cap and is the only person allowed two hands on ball same time and also only one to push off bottom
of pool or side of pool. The game goes for 36 mins, 4 quarters, 7 mins each, 2 min rest between quarters,
35 seconds only for the attacking team on the shot clock, to either score or change possession if no shot
was taken. Whoever has scored the most goals is the winner.
I am not at all happy with this new pool PROPOSAL design as I noticed the MACHINERY ROOM is still
ADJACENT 2 MY HOME...The council has not taken any consideration regarding the noise problems we
have had in the last decade regarding machinery, water pumps/filters & heating electric & gas heating
etc...MY HOME IS NOT MARKED AS A NOISE SENSTIVE AREA as you have done for other residents!!!I
AM NOT AT ALL HAPPY WITH THESE PLANS & I OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM GOING
AHEAD!!! Can u please send me a diagram where all the heat pumps, water pumps & all machinery to run
the pool will be please as I live next door...my main concern is noise.
I frequent Bexley Pool with my two daughters who have swimming lessons there. We love going to the
pool and enjoy the very unique bush setting and we are able to walk there from our house. The pool is a
real asset to the area and when we moved here I was delighted to discover such a lovely public pool in our
neighbourhood. Please upgrade the pool and allow the people of the area to continue to enjoy the pool for
fun and fitness
Wonderful news regarding Bexley pool upgrade. I have swum at the pool for 25 years and have lived in
the Rockdale council (and before that when it was Bexley council) all my life - 75 years. The upgrade of the
pool will be a tremendous project and the citizens of Rockdale surely will be justly proud that you as a
council have the foresight to make this go ahead speedily.
I live in Hurstville – my children schooled in Kingsgrove and they used the Bexley Pool during school
swimming carnivals, etc. With this development proposal being on the agenda, it looks like the needs of
the residents and communities in the area are finally acknowledged (which ‘the Leader’ reported on its
front page - Such a facility will improve the public image of the Bexley area and encourage more to take up
an exercise such as swimming all year round. Mark Hanna and friends of the Pool saw the long term
benefits. We support their leadership on behalf of people like us in furthering this Pool development project
to keep us healthier!
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I have swam at the Bexley pool since it originally opened in 1976 and I am exceptionally pleased that the
pool will continue to be an important part of the Bexley community.
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I have recently been made aware of the extent of the proposed changes to Bexley Swimming Centre. I
have known about the proposal for some weeks, and while I was intrigued by the enhancements, I was
concerned about the effect of increased customer traffic. It seems by fears were well-placed.
According to your plans, which you have NOT made public to us ordinary residents, the area behind our
properties, along Preddys Lane, will be made into an area for further customer parking. These changes will
foremost cause substantial noise pollution, as such movement of cars will likely continue long into the
night. The pool is already loud enough with frequent visits by school excursions. I can’t even begin to
fathom how congested the back lane will become, rendering it almost completely unusable.
All traffic travelling to and from the pool would access Preddys Road, a road which is already overused due
to its direct access to the M5. On swimming carnival days, traffic comes to a standstill, and I fear that this
will be a daily occurrence under these proposed changes.
Finally, the pocket of urban bushland out the back of our property has been there for many, many years.
Your new parking is situated directly on top of it. Do you plan to chop down all of these trees? Do you plan
to destroy this wildlife area? It certainly seems that way.
I am absolutely appalled that such drastic changes were NOT made public to us, residents of Preddys
Road, who will be DIRECTLY affected by the new parking centre behind our houses. Did it ever occur to
you that maybe we would NOT like cars travelling constantly behind our property, and that perhaps we do
actually want to continue using our back lane?
In your future endeavours, perhaps it would be prudent to make YOUR residents aware of changes you
plan to make, and the impact it will have on their everyday lives, BEFORE the construction begins taking
place? This echoes strongly of the creation of Safari Firearms, when we were only made aware of the
proposed firearm store AFTER refurbishment had begun. Was this what you planned to do with Bexley
Pool? Make us aware only AFTER construction had begun, making us unable to appeal? You’re
committing these changes by stealth, keeping us, as rate payers uninformed of your plans, plans that will
adversely impact upon our daily lives. And you expect us to pay for that?
Why would you congest all parking into one small area, when the pool has access points from Highgate
Street as well, and there are ample opportunities to increase parking on Highgate. How could you be that
short-sighted, that you would not use the opportunity to funnel traffic into TWO places, rather than
completely congest one?
I have lost all faith in your ability to treat your residents fairly about matters that have defined negative
impacts upon our daily lives. I expect a rapid reply explaining your behaviour and your desire to keep us
ignorant
I think the plans for the Bexley pool upgrade look great. I looked at the plans and loved them and think it
would be a great use of all that land. My school, Sydney Tech uses these facilities every year for their
swimming carnivals and other swimming events and I think it would be even better with the new facilities.
One of the greatest things would be to have that under cover section for if it’s a rainy day.
Congratulations to RCC on coming up with plans for a stunning, modern, world class facility. The challenge
now is to avoid further delay and deliver the completed project to the community on time and on budget.
I just had a look at the pool plans and they look fantastic. A much needed upgrade to the existing pool
complex and the addition of an heated indoor will add greatly to the amenity of the complex. The existing
Bexley pool is such an asset to the area and the proposed upgrade will be an absolutely fantastic asset to
the Rockdale council area for now and into the future. Please start as soon as possible! :)
Hi. Just want to express the support of myself and my family for the Bexley Pool upgrade. Looks fantastic.
Thank you for providing some great facilities at last. My only query is the size of the grandstand. Does it
really need to be this big? Most grandstands I’ve seen don’t really get used and it may overshadow the
50m pool too much.
The plans for the upgrade look great…. can’t wait to have such great facilities so close at hand and I’m
sure it will attract a great many to swim/keep fit.
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Finally! Thank God this proposal has been made. What a great idea. People in the area have been
lobbying for an indoor leisure centre at Bexley for years and your proposal looks wonderful.
You have our full support and hopefully we don't have to wait many more years for it to become a reality.
Hi - We live/own in Washington St Bexley. Just wanted to say that the proposal looks wonderful and you
have our full support. Sounds awesome. Did have one question if you do respond to these emails,
assuming the community have the same view of us and it goes forward, when would it be completed? The
kids are sick of driving to Leichhardt for all year swimming lessons (as we are too).
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My family and I are frequent users of this pool. The proposal to upgrade Bexley pool looks fantastic. There
is a huge demand in this area for such a complex. It would be a great asset to this area and I would like to
express our support to upgrade the pool.
As nearby residents, we look forward to this new redevelopment of Bexley pool. We believe that it will be
well utilised by all as it will provide not only leisure but also health benefits to many residents. Council just
needs to make sure that it will maintain the areas around the pool, and not allow too much low density
housing which will put a strain on roads, traffic and other services in this area. We really don't want to see
this area become another Rockdale or Arncliffe with all those units being built just so developers can take
advantage of the Bexley pool redevelopment.
I am writing to provide positive feedback on the proposed redevelopment of Bexley Pool. My family use
and have used Bexley for swimming lessons, and for pleasure for a number of years and during that time I
have followed the debate regarding the proposed upgrade with interest.
I wish to congratulate Council on its ongoing commitment to the 100,000 residents of Rockdale who
urgently need a modern aquatic centre in the City of Rockdale without having to travel to surrounding
pools.
I further congratulate the Council on embarking on an (albeit) long but most worthwhile professional
analysis of competing local needs, embarking on a feasibility study and holding extensive consultation with
stakeholders and importantly, staying the distance often it seems in the face of opposition.
It is clear that the proposed centre will achieve a most satisfactory outcome for the residents of the City of
Rockdale.
More specifically and speaking as a father to two young children learning to swim at Bexley it is clear that
the new centre will satisfy a range of needs, including, but not limited to, water education and safety (many
children drown each year in Australia needlessly and lack of water safety is a significant contributing
factor), a location for serious and not so serious swimmers, water related leisure activities, and water
related and dry health and fitness. In a society plagued by obesity that is no small outcome. The location
will in turn be a great place to picnic and hold birthday parties for the very culturally diverse residents of the
City. Parking is well catered for and that is an essential commodity of any facility and of course it will have
a much needed café.
I would also like to comment on the proposed design. The curved building links the external facilities to the
building and effectively anchors the building to the surrounding grounds in a pleasing harmony. A far cry
from monolithic structures often seen, the proposed aesthetic will be something that will become a local
facility that residents will be proud of for years to come.
Yes, there are issues surrounding the redevelopment that have to be addressed such as traffic flow and
protecting local amenities and homes from the impact of the centre, but concerns over these sorts of
issues must not be allowed to get in the way of the development. Yes, the proposed cost ($26.8m) may
appear substantial at first glance but must be put in perspective as the proposed leisure centre will
contribute significantly to the health, well-being and pleasure of the residents and visitors. Hopefully State
and Federal government and other funding bodies will be approached and be generous enough to
contribute. Even if they do not, it seems self-evident that Rockdale City Council is willing to invest in the
future for the betterment of its residents and must be both congratulated and supported.
It is for this reason, I urge all councillors and residents to support this proposal without further delay and
allow the people of Rockdale to enjoy a facility other citizens of Sydney have enjoyed for years
I have been a resident of this area since 1983. I taught for years at St. Ursula’s College, Kingsgrove, from
where constant use has been made of Bexley Pool. Many are the Annual Swimming carnivals I have
attended there. I fully support every attempt that is being made to improve this facility which is so vital to
our area. I rejoice to see the possibility of a heated pool and spa to cater for needs of older people who use
these for therapeutic purposes.
Congratulations to the Council for your support for this venture. Please continue to bring this work to the
conclusion we so desire, which will so enhance our area and be a benefit to so many people, old and
young. Thank you.
I recently read that Rockdale Council was proposing an upgrade of Bexley Pool. After looking at this
proposal on your website I am very impressed. One of the issues concerning local govt is the lack of future
planning. This upgrade would be a huge asset to the rate payers of Rockdale. Yes it would cost a lot and
be a burden on Rockdale Council's financial situation but in the long run, the cost benefits and usage of the
complex by Rockdale locals and other consumers in Sydney would far out way early financial issues.
What a great resource this will be for the community. Congratulations on your foresight
I support the Bexley Pool upgrade as my children use the facilities and an upgrade is well over due.
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Fantastic news about the Bexley swimming pool. I used to often go there when I was younger and now
having children who like to swim I enjoy going there again. I feel the upgrade will encourage far more
people to come to Bexley as generally it is currently looking a little old and stale and is competing with
Hurstville etc which is far more modern. I would prefer to go to Bexley as it has a better grounds and
location.
Thank you for supporting this and this email shows my full support as a local resident.
I live in Allan Street Bexley and so live very close to the pool. Generally I think the new designs are
fantastic and it is great to see the Council pushing ahead with this. My comment would be that the current
pool has the walkway along the northern side so when I am walking home from Kingsgrove train station (or
Bexley North during winter) I do use this walkway to get home thus saving me a long walk up to Stoney
Creek Road and Rye Avenue. I don't think this walkway will be preserved under the new designs - is this
correct? Assuming it isn't I know I could walk down closer to the creek but this is usually very dark, doesn't
have a path, and I wouldn't be comfortable walking through there at night. Could you please consider
alternatives to replace this access route? Happy to discuss. Thanks
Thought I would respond to the proposed pool upgrade at Bexley. It is a fantastic idea that will last not just
for the current population but for the generation that follows. To not use a facility will mean we lose the
facility and the land will be sold for residential development at some point in the future. Any sporting/leisure
infrastructure we have in our city/local area with an expanding population is priceless. Children learn to
swim/people keep fit, it is an activity that the elderly can use especially with heating etc. Council I am all for
the upgrade
What a brilliant idea to expand the Bexley pool in this way. This will definitely attract more people to the
facilities.
What an excellent use of the taxpayer’s money to improve such a wonderful and safe place for the citizens!
The plans look wonderful. Living on an island and so close to water all citizens, especially our children,
need to learn about water safety and how to swim. It is for safety and for health. This is a wonderful facility
that many of the schools use. I think you should go forward and develop the facility for the community.
The Bexley pool is used by many schools and is pivotal to the development of kids skills around swimming
and physical development. I believe it should be fixed at worse and even remodelled and expanded.
I am a local and wish to voice my support for the upgrade of Bexley pools.
To the Councillors and Design team of the new Bexley Pool, I just wanted to comment on the proposal for
the new Bexley Pool. Generally the design is exciting and progressive and I feel that the pool is a long time
needed resource for the community; however, as a mother I must say I am very disappointed at the
images provided of the children's play pool.
The current design seems like an opportunity lost. The design team and councillors should take a look at
the various water installations around Sydney, in particular those at the Olympic pool and the park facilities
at Steele Park in Marrickville, Darling Harbour and Pyrmont Pirrama Park. Children's water play can be so
much more than what has been currently proposed for Bexley. These other facilities provide fountains,
trickle pools, slides and other 'water play' equipment that I feel the Bexley pool would benefit from. The
other facilities I've mentioned around Sydney bring so much joy to young children and their families- they
provide important places for social interactions for children and their families, they provide creative play
environments which stimulate children's imaginations and improve their self-esteem, and in these days of
obesity provide crucial places for kids to get exercise. As building density increases these facilities become
more and more important. Also, with the dangers of UV radiation, inside facilities are also particularly
important for young children. Also, Australian children need to be water-safe due to the number of pools
and beaches in our environment and it is critical we start children swimming early, and this is best done at
well supervised pools with fun and encouraging atmospheres. I implore the Councillors to look into further
improvements to the children's pool. I don't feel that I am alone in these feelings- the mothers at my playgroup and pre-school regularly drive their children out of Rockdale to other places to get better
environments for their children to play.
After trips to various pools and parks I've also noticed that the children's water features are the most highly
used sections of the pools and parks, used by more people than any other section of the pool. With this in
mind, surely this warrants more energy into the new design? I do understand that these facilities are very
costly, but the chance to build them comes once in every
few generations. Don't make it good, make it outstanding! Generations of children and their families will
thank you.
Make Rockdale great by putting more thought into this section of the pool. I'd love it if people drove their
children into Rockdale from other areas because our pool was so good.
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In relation to the Bexley Swimming Leisure Centre Project, here are some considerations that I have
thought up.
A particular interest is underground buildings because I believe they are the most environmentally friendly
form of building available. I list energy efficiency and cost savings in construction amongst the benefits,
and they also allow native vegetation to be retained in bushland settings whilst simultaneously eliminating
fire danger.” They allow you to retain 95 per cent of native vegetation on your land, so you have almost
total biodiversity protection,” In the wake of the devastating Victorian bushfires I believe now is the time to
challenge some of the conventional wisdom about building in bushland areas before the rebuilding phase
begins.” The fire risk issue is virtually non existent with underground buildings provided they’re constructed
properly. The main consideration in bushfire prone areas is that you need to have a barrier around you; a
hazard reduction zone of some kind. The main consideration you have then is windows and doors. If you
don’t have quality double glazed or laminated windows, the windows are so fragile that the onset of a
major firestorm can cause an air pressure differential between the fire area and the inside of a building.
The inside air pressure is greater so it blows the windows out and the fire pours in and destroys the
building.... Everyone thinks that by sealing themselves inside a normal building they are safe, but not at
all.” But the idea of building underground would need a major education campaign and marketing
makeover before it became acceptable to the average builder. “The key word is underground and
everybody thinks ‘wombat burrow’. A better word would be ‘earth covered’. Earth covered building is a
much more palatable thing to describe,”. The type of building I am talking about involves a concrete slab,
concrete walls and a concrete roof. Doors, windows and sun lights are fitted to maximise light into the
building. Kitchens, bathrooms and other fittings can be carried out by regular tradespeople. “Everybody
thinks of underground buildings, like the subterranean houses in Coober Pedy, but the main design is a
‘cut and fill’ type of design... you cut into the side of a hill and backfill but the main design is a ‘cut and fill’
type of design... you cut into the side of a hill and backfill around the walls. The roof is completely earth
covered so you have to mow the roof or plant gardens on it, or native plants.” The design is equally
possible to build on a flat block by bringing in soil and backfilling
around and on top of the concrete structure. I believe it’s not just fire; the effects of other natural disasters
would be minimised with earth covered buildings. “What happens now when a single hailstorm hits
Sydney? Thousands of windows get destroyed and all the roofs. There was hideous destruction in just one
day... I’ve seen Sydney hit with a hailstorm in the 90s that nearly used up the entire supply of glass in
Australia in a single day’s storm. It took months and months, sometimes years, to repair some structures in
Sydney.” Most modern buildings were only built to only last 30 years, whereas an earth covered building
should last for “hundreds”. With more wild weather predicted in the coming decades it would pay to make
some smart decision about how we use our resources now. “I was in Queensland after Cyclone Yasi and I
have been in other areas where cyclones have destroyed large areas of land. I recommended in
Queensland they build underground or earth covered housing to withstand cyclones, but no one would
listen. Real estate agents just laughed at it. In one particular area, they built houses, all identical... It was
the most horrendous, boring architecture I’ve ever seen. But it was done because it was quick. It would
have been cheaper to build underground earth covered housing... but the housing industry is locked into
design which is dinosaurian.”I believe there are around 70,000 underground houses in the United States,
but don’t have any figures for Australia because many have been built without council consent. I first came
across the idea when I was working in concrete construction on large building projects in the 1990s.“I saw
massive destruction of habitat to build houses and it just seemed to me to be insane. In contrast to the
impression of them being like a wombat burrow, underground buildings are spectacularly well lit... Under
Australian standards, virtually every room has to have natural light coming in and you can do that with
skylights or you can do that with an atria structure. You can create atriums where a number of rooms come
off a common area. That area feeds light through windows into the interior of the building.” Complex
problems defy simplistic explanations or solutions. The problem of human survival in large-scale urban
environments is so complex it is not going to be solved by one thing like building underground, but it is part
of the solution. It’s all about resource use and availability...The main problem is population; there is just too
many people. But even if we can control population we are still going to come up against the issue of
resource use. Conventional building requires greater resources than this because they are short lived
structures. We have to build for the future, for hundreds of years into the future, and that’s not just
buildings, it’s roads and infrastructure for providing essential energy and water supplies. We have to build
infrastructure so that it’s not having to be continuously repaired and maintained because the resources are
just not there to be able to do it. “We are facing a population explosion in the next 10 years... The
development pressure will be vast, and my argument is to build appropriately. You can have your
biodiversity protection, which is a major consideration for occupation, and you can have safety.
Hello. As a local resident who uses the pool relatively frequently (once a week at least at the moment) I
have a keen interest in the proposals concerning the pool. I have spent some time looking at the
proposals, plan (etc) on the website and have a couple of queries.
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Can you please explain where the existing bike path will go? It is the path that currently runs to the back of
the complex up the slope towards Allan & Highgate Streets? It is not apparent on the new plans.
Also, are you able to tell me the area of the complex that will be used up by buildings (including pools and
stands) compared with the area currently used?
I really hope the pool is repaired if not fully renovated. Bexley really does not have enough good transport
for people to regularly go to leisure centres/ pools located in other suburbs. Bexley pool has only been
around for a short time (as pool time is measured), it was built when I was a teenager and most youngsters
had to travel to Canterbury pool which was a rare treat. Bexley pool would be greatly missed by the
general community and local schools if it were shut down. I don't expect everything on the proposal to go
ahead, however keeping some grassed area for families to relax on and a bit more shade area would be
good. The great thing about Bexley is the tranquil location and the availability of a soft surround between
swims. Any improvements however small would be welcome; however an all year round facility would no
doubt increase regular patronage. Sun shelter is very important.
The proposal and plans looks terrific. My only concerns are the traffic congestion and cost to rate payers.
The council already squeezes enough out of us via rates and the ridiculous high rise and high density
buildings/apartment blocks Rockdale. I’m actually more opposed to the new plans for more building rather
than the pool; our beautiful city will look like an ugly concrete jungle and with middle to low income earning
folk, Will turn into a ghetto. Just look at the development of Wolli Creek ,,,it looks like a ghetto.
I would like to support the proposal for the upgrade of Bexley Pool. I am a parent of 3 children and we have
used the pool for many years.
Please accept my feedback on the proposed Bexley Aquatic Centre development.
1. I totally support the proposal.
2. I would be most interested in the 50m outdoor pool and the gym facility
3. I would use the facility 2-3 times a week
4. I don't currently use Bexley pool facility
5. My only concerns are around the parking and street congestion during busy periods
6. I would like to see Bexley pool continue to provide a service to the community including school
swimming carnivals
Please upgrade Bexley pool so everyone would come and swim, including me! I saw your images online
and agreed to them!
A great initiative by Rockdale council. A progressive step forwards the community in general. I would
defiantly increase my use of the new pool and facilities along with the rest of may family.
I won’t need to drive to Sutherland or Homebush pools anymore to enjoy a decent facility. There are many
more of my friends and local schools that support this proposed development 100%, even if they haven’t
registered their support directly. Any councillor that doesn’t support the Bexley pool development is
definitely not in touch with enough of the community.
I think the Bexley Pool upgrade is a fantastic idea and will be an asset to the local community.
I live in the Rockdale Council and it is great to hear about this proposal. I and my family will definitely go to
the Bexley Swimming Pool more often once it is built. I just have a comment, for the new swimming pool,
can you please have locker available there. At the moment, the current swimming pool's lockers are not
working and therefore I have to leave my car key and wallet in the ground while swimming in the pool. I do
not feel very comfortable about this (obviously for security reasons). If you can take care about this point,
that will be great! Thank you so much
Hello I live in Preddys Road Bexley. Firstly I would just like to say that the new pool proposal is a fantastic
idea for the area. The only worry that I have, is a parking issue. I have lived here since 1996, and every
year there are issues of cars illegally parking on Preddys Road, which is a safety issue, as cars speed
down the hill and do not take notice of these cars. The area in particular is the section from the bottom of
the hill, across the road to the pool entrance (where the bus stop is), to the driveway at my house.. This
area is a no stopping zone, yet in times of heavy pool usage, people do not heed the law. This is
dangerous, as cars turning right into Cannonbury road, are at danger because cars coming down the hill
(at speed), do not see the car turning and have no where to overtake the turning vehicle, as there are cars
illegally parked in the no stopping zone. Accidents at this intersection have occurred because of this. So in
closing, my only concern is the parking issue that the residents will face in times of high demand and
usage of the pool facilities. Thanks for your time
Bexley Pool is a great set-up. Fix the outdoor 50m pool and leave the massive gym proposal alone. Spend
the money on other services such as Library, Aged Services, Clean Ups
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As an active mother of 2 young children, I think the proposed renovations to the Bexley pool are a brilliant
initiative which will benefit the community. We live locally and don't attend the pool too often as it is
outdoor. We also travel to Ashfield to attend swimming lessons for the kids as there aren't any local
facilities that are up to scratch. If the proposal goes ahead we will definitely become regular users of a lot
of the facilities and services. You have my support. Please proceed! - Full steam ahead!
I am a resident of Preddys Road, and I welcome this upgrade of this facility. I currently take my children to
Hurstville aquatic centre to learn to swim, even though I would prefer Bexley pool, but as the LTS program
is only offered over the summer months, I had to go elsewhere. My children and myself use this facility in
the summer months and we believe it would be an asset long term for the city of Rockdale.
I am very sorry to be losing the nice quiet, basic facilities at Bexley pool. I appreciate that the pool needs to
be rebuilt. I certainly don’t need anything fancier, and I really value the leafy surrounds and modest
facilities. Its one of the last unreconstructed pools in the area and I’ll really miss it! I cycle from Marrickville
to Hurstville to go to work, and I stop at the pool on the way about once a week in the morning. I would still
visit the new pool once a week once it is built, and would use the lap pools (as long as the place is not too
crowded or too glitzy), but I am not at all interested in using the sauna or spa or gym facilities. My priorities
are:
- That the new facilities are constructed with sustainability firmly in mind – using the most sustainable
materials possible, using passive solar design so that air-conditioning is not necessary, using energyefficient equipment, retaining a high level of permeable/semi-permeable surfaces on site so that runoff is
minimised, the use of tanks to collect water for garden maintenance and toilet flushing etc. If these features
could be showcased to patrons, all the better. This is a great big expensive project and it should not just
look like a building for the future, it should actually really look to the future.
- That if many more people are going to visit, council promotes and facilitates the use of public transport
and active transport to reach the pool, instead of focussing on providing car spaces. Good bicycle-parking
facilities will be necessary, and bicycle routes to the pool could be enhanced and promoted as the pool is
opened.
- That the nice, leafy informal recreation space around the pool is maintained as much as possible – all the
things you are proposing take up a lot of room – car parking etc. I urge you to keep as many trees as
possible and not to make the landscaping full of hard surfaces and formal landscaping.
- That the creek and bushland behind the pool is properly protected during construction (from sediment
etc) and that the pathway that passes behind the pool (which I cycle along most days) is kept open during
construction.
In the new pool complex, I would really appreciate:
- some shade over the outdoor pool
- showers with a slightly lower pressure than currently (showering at Bexley pool is like standing under a
fire hose, trying to avoid permanent injury!)
- ‘warm’ shower temperature set to 41 degrees, rather than 43 (the current ‘warm’ temperature is too hot
for me), or a temperature that one can control.
I vote to have the upgrade for Bexley Pool, at the moment I take my kids elsewhere because the existing
facilities are inadequate
We support the proposed upgrade of Bexley swimming pool. We hope Council proceeds with the project
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Appendixes
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Appendix 1 - Online and Media Stories
Stories appearing on the local newspaper website www.theleader.com.au
13 December 2011 - New life for Bexley Pool
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Online Blogs
13 December 2011 - New life for Bexley Pool
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Online Story
19 January 2012 - ‘Grand’ Bexley Pool upgrade queried
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Online Blogs
19 January 2012 - ‘Grand’ Bexley Pool upgrade queried
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Online Story
2 February 2012 - Community warms to Bexley Pool plan
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Online Blogs
2 February 2012 - Community warms to Bexley Pool
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St George & Sutherland Shire Leader - Letter 7/2/2012
St George & Sutherland Shire Leader - Letter to the Editor 9/2/2012
"It's great to see Rockdale doing something about revitalising the town centre which is drab and soulless.
High-rise around transport interchanges is inevitable better there than suburban streets. Combine this plan
with the proposal to upgrade Bexley Pool and the Rockdale LGA becomes a more desirable place to live.
Online Poll
The following online poll appears on the local newspaper’s website www.theleader.com.au
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Online Story
18 April 2012 - Bexley Pool revamp thumbs up
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Appendix 2 - Detailed responses to Question 5
Do you have any concerns with the proposal? Other (please comment)
The following comments were made by people who expressed a concern with the proposal. 10% of
the respondents completed this section and the comments are reproduced below:
Capital Cost
Although I am aware of that the local community would get a lot of use out of the
proposed aquatic centre, there are also lots of other initiatives that the community would
benefit from as well. 26 million just seems like just a big expense, when that money
could be shared amongst different projects that would benefit the community.
Are you trying to do too much? Sounds like overkill. The Homebush pool is huge too
and it’s operating at a loss. It’s only been open for 10 years and already needs major
renovations costing millions. Keep it simple. Do what’s necessary.
Cost blow outs and mismanagement. Please, no stupid pandering to Muslim groups to have
segregated swimming classes for Muslim women. If you have these I will not be using the
facilities. I don't pay my rates to pay for someone else's religious agenda. They can use the
normal facilities like everyone else at the same time as everyone else.
Full costs to operate are not included in the cost schedules provided - eg no furniture,
too many other exclusions, substation, etc. Also, have grave doubts over the carparking
requirements and its location. As a stand alone aquatic facility very little other fitness
opportunities will be available. What would have been the outcome if your consultants
were asked to find the top 10 locations for a new aquatic facility for the City of
Rockdale? Assume a site constrained by a creek, cliff, and in a former quarry would be
well down on the list - if it even appeared on the 10. Your planning committee members
appear not to be objective. Hope the new General Manager seriously investigates the
process undertaken. As stated the proposal will be a legacy for the next 50 years.
I don’t believe that the proposed costs to run the facility are true and include all
operating costs and would like to see proposed budgets and what is included and not
included in the budget to obtain this ongoing running costs of $427,353 per year as its
seems very low to me. I am in favour of this upgrade but want true costs before fully
supporting it
Going over the budget and having to sell off the land (better not...)
I think it’s over the top. Don't have to spend so much money. The pool needs to stay so
many people use and so many schools. I would never swim at Hurstville
I’m really excited about the new plans. They look fantastic, but I have heard that the
foundations under the current facility are very poor. My only concern is that if this sort of
money is to be spent I hope that something is done to address the issues with the
ground surface under the entire site.
If not able to finance whole project, set priority steps. Priority Olympic sized 50m
outdoor pool followed by pools - lowest priority gym.
It looks amazing - but I think it is far too much $$ and perhaps more than we need for
Hurstville complex is not far away - overkill
My school would use this pool for swimming carnivals and other fun activities.
There is no need for such an extravagant upgrade costing that much. It needs for of an
uplift and 25m pool.
This proposal says funding will come from cash reserves, sales of assets and grant
funding will be sought from state and federal government
Community
benefit
A great asset for the community for the health and well being of the citizens.
Bexley needs a quality and comprehensive facility that caters for all capabilities of
swimming, including a gym
I am unlikely to use the facilities because I am an old lady. I support because of the
young people and children
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I and family visit 1 to 2 times per week in summer months.
I believe that the proposal is world class. It will put Rockdale Council on the map with
other councils that provide excellent sporting facilities. The proposal is an investment in
the present and in future generations.
I think a beautiful sports facility is one of the best things a council can provide for its
community and this one is VERY beautiful.
It is a wonderful community facility and it would be a real loss to the community if it were
to close!!!!
It would be an excellent community resource. Look at the new Enmore Pool
It's about time Bexley area was improved with decent facilities.
Love it. Can't wait. Would use the pool more in winter with my family
NOT AT ALL!! THE COUNCIL PROBABLY SPENDS TOO MUCH MONEY CUTTING
THE GRASS WITHIN THE POOL GROUNDS COUNCIL WOULD BE BETTER OFF
SPENDING THIS MONEY DEVELOPING THE SITE RATHER THAN MAINTAINING
FACILITIES WHICH ARE NOT BEING USED I.E GRASSY HILLS/GROUNDS
Rockdale desperately needs this facility to reduce obesity and depression epidemics,
and reduce drownings (need learn to swim programs esp kids & migrants)
Swimming is a fantastic sport and the beaches are being eroded away so the people
have to swim somewhere close
This is a tremendous proposal that will benefit the entire community and surrounding
communities and school children.
This proposal will bring a first-class facility into the local area benefiting residents and
promoting a healthy lifestyle. Well done.
We are not opposed to the upgrade of the pool and the proposed upgrade to the
existing car park in Highgate Street, as we think it would be cost effective
Delivery / Timing
I would like the 50m pool to be available during development. Keep pool as it is until
new 50m pool is built.
I wish this centre to remain open and available
Maintain existing pool during renovation. Attract undesirables
Time it will be under development (ie no pool available to use)
What swimming facilities will be available during renovation?
Will the 25m pool be built before the renovation to the 50m pool? We need a decent
pool size for training while the 50m pool is out of action
Environment
Concerned that the ambience of the existing pool will be lost and it will be
indistinguishable from large aquatic centres in other areas.
Hope that Bexley Pool retains its peaceful atmosphere during non-peak times. Find
current pool very relaxing.
I enjoy the current pool in its tranquil location. I am worried that a new centre will mean
more people/noise and loss of the gardens/tranquillity
I would like to see as much grass and trees preserved. The surrounding greenery
around the pool is one of the main reasons why I swim at Bexley.
I live nearby, concerned that noise would be an issue, especially echo noises through
Bardwell Valley and Prime Ministers walk
Impacts on existing bushland and topography. Excessive response to need 4 new
pools. Too many "bells and whistles" when a more simpler redevelopment that sits
sympathetically in its existing landscape is possible.
It will totally change the feel of Bexley Pool as is, it will become another leisure centre of
which there are enough (see below). Also, proposed car park will infringe on bushland
reserve.
Reduction of the wonderful green space around the existing buildings, although I
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understand most of these are remaining.
The local nature strip will be destroyed. This is home to many birds and beautiful flora.
This will significantly increase the local traffic where all local residents will be affected
by a pool and leisure centre that is hardly used. What a waste of money, let's spend our
council money protecting our local flora and upgrading parks, roads and libraries
The loss of vegetation for the proposed car park. Should save and replant more native
vegetation for the Bardwell Valley area.
My only concern is that this opportunity is used to support the Open Space Concept and
that any potential to maximise space usage on the property is realised. That includes
the internal design elements. Due to extensive experience in using such facilities
worldwide I would also like to contribute by being part of the Reference Group if that is
possible. Thank you.
The parking will affect the green corridor and threaten one of the fair good bits of native
bush which once gone will be forever gone
Too grandiose for site; the sylvan surroundings now large part of present pool's
attraction will be destroyed by such unnecessary over-development. All that is needed
is 50m outdoor pool heated in winter ONLY; 25 m indoor pool heated year-round;
children’s' play pool heated. Small gym facilities as at present useful but not necessary;
shade trees and shaded seating; a simple refreshment kiosk. All accompanied by well
functioning and clean shower and toilet and changing facilities. Canterbury Council's
Aquatic Centre at Tasker Park represents the ideal solution. It incorporates all the
foregoing simple elements; it is operated by and - most importantly, constantly well
maintained - BY the Council, first and foremost, as a community facility and service not
something to be commercially exploited. Though I am not familiar with Canterbury's
Roseland pool complex, other sometimes Roselands users from the Bexley pool
"family" report on it as the Tasker Park centre. Both good examples to follow.
We are residents on Preddys Road who purchased our house purely due to the lovely
nature outlook at the back. The proposal will mean cutting down those trees and
reducing our property value. Therefore we all on the street will be seeking
compensation as this is affecting our standard of living.
With leisure centres at Canterbury, Hurstville & Roselands, it is nice to still have a local
outdoor pool. I feel this would be lost with the construction of another "leisure centre" at
Bexley.
Facilities
50m pool should be refurbished only and improve grass areas
A weather proof attractive cover is needed for carnivals-schools and other so that rain
does not affect the carnival.
Have to have a 50m pool
Don't need gyms/sauna/steam rooms
Fix the 50m pool if necessary but not a massive expenditure. There are plenty of gyms
around we just need an outdoor people which is heated as required.
I would use the centre more often for indoor facilities
I think the proposal is an overkill. Just give us a fully functional all year round 50 m pool
(outdoor) with shaded seating. We do not need another gym facility there is already
about 8-9 of these and growing. The beauty of this existing facility is it not
overdeveloped. Fix it up - open it year round and the people will come back. To spend
$26.81 million is a joke, mismanagement of ratepayer’s money.
I would like to suggest we have a water polo pool the design similar to mlc laddies
school
Must be welcoming to young adults or older people - do not agree with party rooms
Making sure that the shades over the 50m pool are waterproof
This is really narrow minded and selfish of the pool who only wish to generate more
income by having more facilities!!! Think about us daily swimmers!
No water bottled stations
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Upgrade the present 50 metre pool
Reduce cardio area and allow more area for free weights
Size of grandstand only. It may over shadow the 50m pool too much and may not need
to be that big. Most grandstands I have seen at pools don't get used that much.
Would love some sort of jets or fountain etc in the children’s play area. They love that
stuff. Thanks
We need a water polo pool
Proposed carpark garden and lighting
I don't know that you need a huge grandstand as I love the lovely green open spaces
you have there which is good for family gatherings. I would suggest maybe some BBQ's
be installed.
Please look at Enmore Pool and compare it with Bexley and make it look like that.
We do not need another Hurstville Aquatic Centre
Learn to swim
We use currently have to go to Hurstville for swimming lessons but it would be much
more convenient to go to Bexley, plus we like Bexley pool better it is really peaceful and
relaxing. And nicely protected from the wind.
Location
Having attended the current pool lots over the years for our children's/zone swimming
carnivals the inadequacies of the area become obvious.
Open up the options for another site for more dry facilities
Management
Ensure that it does not become the enclave of a few by ensuring patrons are well
behaved and be very strict about clothing worn in the pools. No weight equipment
should be provided in the gym, rather fitness classes would do well.
Crowd behaviour
I extensively use Bexley Pool in summer and Hurstville Aquatic and on odd occasions
Homebush Olympic. I have found that the with all the facilities they get very
overcrowded at times and serious swimmers like me are forced away, however
Homebush has a 50m pool for lap swimmers only any its never been a problem except
for carnivals etc. I would be inconvenienced if the extra crowds the proposed indoor
facilities attract spill over to the existing lap lanes or if lap lanes are not set to a suitable
minimum. I hope the entrance fees are set appropriately at the higher end to keep the rif
raf out and attract the quality/serious patrons who appreciate it and are happy to pay.
My daughter pays hundreds to join other facilities and the patrons are happy to pay.
Sans Souci pool had real problems a few years ago until they increased entry fees and
the quality of patrons increased. I strongly oppose entrance fees being set at low prices
to please those who want to pay nothing as a swimmer and ratepayer.
I doubt I would use this pool unless it is kept extremely clean
Noise, crowd control
Make sure you have good signage, access into the pool complex for those walking
rather than driving to the pool.
Social issues - misconduct using the facilities
The time it opens and closes.
Opening hours. What will they be?
The maintenance of this pool has been a problem for years. The money wasted on
consultancies and upgrade of amenities only to be damaged by patrons has been
shameful and irresponsible. Why was the main change rooms left underground?
Security and unwanted activities if the pool and carparks are not secure
Miscellaneous
Work in the area
Parking
Enough parking for the predicted volume. Aesthetics - filling in with the surrounding bush
I believe the parking would need to be more than doubled to support the expected
increase in patronage (esp with a gym & indoor pool - swim school numbers will
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increase substantially)
I hope there is enough parking as parking may be why some people don't visit
I think that there will be insufficient parking spaces for an interactive swimming complex
of this size, considering families with kids in swim school will drive to the complex etc.
It seems the Council has failed to inform about an extended car park
Noise if car park is to be located behind Preddys Lane. Noise will affect residents and
lights from carpark affecting residents backing onto Preddy's Lane
Needs to be adequate parking to support the facility
Parking lot will have to be a lot bigger. Similar to the expansion at Hurstville Leisure
Centre
Parking? Not enough
Regarding additional parking, the "new view" may not please the residents. What about
add a roof with grass on it to hide it from their view?
Parking is already 1/3 of needs - you won't provide enough. The cost of complete
rebuild is stupid
Timing / Delivery
ASAP completion
Amount of time pool is out of commission may cause patronage drop-off
Delay is main concern. Should have been many years ago
Hurry up!
I hope that work beings on the upgrade of the Bexley pools this year and that it is not
delayed any more years.
How long will it take
Length of time needed to complete project
Needs to be fast tracked
The period of time it will take
Traffic
We do have concern with the future added exit and access from Preddys Road into the
pool area. The number of vehicular movements will show a substantial increase as the
present car parking is to be extended from 106 spaces to 214 spaces. The number of
visits per year increases from 130,000 to 541,000
Presents (traffic) a big problem - peak afternoon times if visits increase from 130,000
per year to 541,000. Preddys Road not capable of taking cars. From March to
November pool is hardly used - most people don't even know it exists. Location is poor
(good for me). Should be down near Rockdale Plaza
Users cost /
needs
Charges after Centre is renovated
Currently the pool is crowded on warm days. Will the new facility satisfy the growing
community? Please keep entry fees affordable especially to families and with discounts
for regular users
I really hope that the cost of entry does not increase too much.
I am concerned that the renovations will put the cost of pool entry outside the price
range for regular attendance. I currently go to Bexley with my family over Hurstville
Aquatic Centre- which is closer to home and for which I have membership- because of
the cost. It is also hard to do laps in a pool when kids are jumping into your lane.
Make sure entry fees are kept at a level that socio- economic disadvantaged people can
afford for their children!
Need to ensure that is affordable for families - either with affordable monthly fee or
season pass.
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Appendix 3 – Detailed responses to Question 6
Do you have any other comments?
The detailed comments to this question are reproduced below:
Category
Capital Cost
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Comment
Are we over capitalising this project and if not then can it be completed in stages to
spread the cost to the community and address other needs as well??
Effects on residents Council rates
Fix the 50m pool. Save the money for services, aged services, disability access. More
parking at Hurstville and St George hospital
I do not believe this proposal represents a good spend. I am concerned it will be too
big attracting people from outside Council area and we will have to pay. It should
remain a local pool
I do support the redevelopment of the Bexley Pool site. However I'm a bit concerned
over any cost blow outs or a special levy being applied to Rockdale rate payers. I'm
sure with these improvements to the centre it will be used all year round and be a
project that Rockdale Council can be proud of.
I would be interested to hear details of which assets will be sold to fund the improved
facility
I would have liked to have seen less spent on the redevelopment as I would just like a
functional pool - 50m outdoor and 25m indoor. However, if this is the only answer I am
very supportive. I would also like the reassurance that entry to the pool will not
increase substantially as this would affect my usage of the pool.
If cost is going to be a problem, a renovation of the existing facilities is good enough
to make the Centre meet NSW Health standards. This Centre is situated in a very nice
place and a lot of community members, family and school children benefit from this
Centre's improvements
Like your proposal but worried about cost? Does this mean our Council rates go up
again?
Prioritise development stages if not able to finance project. Priority 50m outdoor
(heated) pool. Olympic to encourage swimming club/assoc to use. Keep majority of
trees and replace any felled trees / waterproof covering / lowest priority gym / family
room to allow those with children - mixed gender - ages / good changerooms
Project is too large and will have ongoing recurrent funding problems. Original
requirement was to build new 50m pool. This project will become a long term drain on
resources. There is no indication what costs will be for patrons.
Stop wasting money
The current pool is hardly used why are we wasting money upgrading an unnecessary
facility?
the list of costs not included in the price, such as the sub station, let's be serious it will
need to be replaced due the increased output - what are those costs? How is bonus
for early completion arrived at? Is there interest from a bona fide leisure centre
operator to run this facility as a profit?
The money saved by adopting the suggested less grandiose proposal should certainly
be used on other much needed Council facilities, especially the central Library.
There is no need to spend $26.81 million for a new leisure centre, $5 million is
sufficient
What happens if governments do not provide the funds needed? Where will Rockdale
Council get the money? Do RCC have Plan B if so, what is it? If all money is available
it will be a wonderful swimming leisure centre
Why spend so much money on such a big project when all is needed is an indoor pool
during winter. My suggestion is add heated pools leave the rest as is. Use the money
for green bins in the area as there are a lot of trees etc
Will our Council Fees increase substantially?
28 March 2012
Carnivals
Community
Benefit
Will our Council rates increase with this renovation as I live just behind it. "Footpath"
on Canonbury Grove, as it is hard to walk up and down on grass, especially when
wet.
You can see something for your money
As a user of the pool I have seen lots of schools using it for their carnivals. This
Leisure Centre Proposal if it is completed will attract a lot of people from outside the
community
I am a student at Danebank and we hold our swimming carnival there every year. This
pool proposal is a great idea.
I think it would be a great facility for School swimming carnivals
I use this pool for our school swimming carnival each year and also once a month to
do swimming training. Please build the centre.
I work at Kogarah High and have our swimming carnival there every year. The new
facility would enable the school to offer swimming and gym on a weekly basis for
sport. In addition, I would use it every afternoon on my way home instead of travelling
to Sylvania F First at night. Congratulations Rockdale Councillors on your vision!
I would very much like to see the proposed new Bexley Swimming Pool to be
constructed because when there are swimming carnivals, swimmers can warm-up
and swim down in the indoor 25m pool.
If I go there with grand kids - 5 of them for a carnival this would be of use to me
Important local facility for the St George residents and Schools within the area that
hold their swimming carnivals
It is vital to local schools that we have a facility for swimming carnivals and swim
lessons. The redevelopment would provide a myriad of sports options regarding
swimming and fitness for schools and the wider community
It's great for swimming carnivals!
Let Danebank use it for their swimming carnival
Looks great - proposed development looks fantastic, great for the community and
surrounding schools to use for swimming carnivals
My son is at Sydney Technical High and uses the pool for carnivals
Please just do it! The school that my kids go to use it for carnivals. My sons use the
gym
Right now i am not using the Bexley pool, but this is a good idea because thats where
the school carnivals are held, In the past i did go to the Rockdale swimming club and
there Australia day carnival.
School swimming carnivals will use these new facilities. It is important to have a place
for swimming carnivals for school. Lots of schools are already using this pool.
Schools have their swimming carnival and they would need a place to go if this didn't
pass
The pool will continue to provide essential exercise facilities for the elderly/infirmsaving the state money. I think local schools would use it more for carnivals etc.
This is where my school holds its annual swimming carnivals so I think this "upgrade"
would benefit us but more-so the Bexley community.
This new facility would provide excellent facilities for the students of our school. It
would cater for our physically impaired and mainstream students alike. We would use
the proposed new facility more than we would use the current facility.
Very important for schools to go there! Many schools hold there carnivals there!
We swim here approx 3 times per year for carnivals and the proposal looks great
Would really enjoy the swim club and local carnivals. We lack them in St George area.
Bexley carnivals are very popular and they have a great committee to run carnivals.
Yes, my school use this pool all the time and it is an essential and important amenity.
The work should start as soon as possible
Bexley pool upgrade will be beneficial to water sports for the schools in the area
A chance to have a facility where multiple needs are met for a cross section of the
community
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A community centre that is symbolic in the area. All residents have good memories of
using the centre in their youth. Must be improved for future generation.
A fantastic addition to the community.
A fantastic opportunity to showcase Rockdale Council and benefit the residents of St
George immensely
A great design and long over due in the area. This proposal will provide for both
current and future needs of the community.
A great facility
A great facility to visit with my grandchildren, who would visit the centre regularly.
A great venture which is needed
A much needed proposal
A MUCH NEEDED UPGRADE FOR LOCAL AREA PATRONS - WOULD BRING
OUR CENTRE UPTO OTHER AREAS SUCH AS HURSTVILLE AQUATIC CENTRE WE CURRENTLY VISIT HURSTVILLE AQUATIC CENTRE 2 TWICE A WEEK AND
WOULD PREFER TO SUPPORT AND VISIT A FACILITY WITHIN OUR OWN
COUNCIL AREA
A much overdue development which has the ability to further attract people to our
community rather than it being the other way around
A new facility with indoor heated pool would be very beneficial for older residents who
need some rehabilitation/gentle exercise/therapy. A multi-function centre incorporating
new technologies would be a vast improvement on existing pool.
A pool is needed in this region as it is a distance for people in the Rockdale area to
travel to ie Hurstville, Canterbury, Carss Park.
A project the Council, community and residents would be proud of
A warm water exercise pool is needed. A number of elderly people really need this
facility. The Calvary Hospital pool gives priority to their patients as would be expected.
St George hospital pool has been closed for ages and just reopened - patients
obviously have priority again. A public accessible warm water exercise pool is needed
A wonderful asset, attracting people that work nearby and will come at lunch/after
work. I work at Kogarah and will swim and exercise there
Although I don't live in the area, I work at a school in Bexley and use the pool
sometimes in the course of my job. I see it as a great (and necessary) asset to the
community. The proposal would provide a world class local facility
Am very excited about the new proposal!
An excellent use of ratepayers money. We should be investing in our social
infrastructure
Any Proposal to Improve Public facilities is of good spending within the community. A
healthy lifestyle should always be promoted when it comes to our young persons. This
in the long run will have less impact financially to our Community.
Area needs this. Currently have to go to Hurstville Aquatic Centre. Would much prefer
to use Bexley and fund businesses in our Council area.
As a Principal of a local school I believe this upgrade is greatly needed and will be a
huge benefit to the local community. The school is totally supportive of the plans.
As we continue to allow high rise to be built, we need facilities for the growing
community
Because the pool never used to open during winter, and lacked an indoor 25m pool, it
has forced state swimmers such as myself to swim out of the area during winter. It
has also caused a decline in the numbers for the Rockdale Swimming Club which
Bexley Pool is home to. The proposal will benefit all members of the community and
help reach the numbers the swim club once had.
Bexley needs this developments as there are quiet a number of young children that
would benefit from a indoor and outdoor facilities as there isn't a similar facility in the
neighbouring suburbs a definite plus for parents and schools in the area
Bexley needs this type of development
Bexley pool is a great asset to the area, a beautiful and practical place to swim.
Hurstville pool is overcrowded and doesn't have 50m pool. Definitely needed.
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Bexley Pool is a very important facility for the community as a whole in regard to their
health and well being. Any improvement would be most welcome
Bexley Pool is centrally located and an indoor facility would be beneficial to the area
Communities need to come together in appropriate areas. High rises and other
changes in the communities mean proposals like this should be every Council's
priority
Currently do not use the pool very often as it does not provide facilities like gym and
undercover pool. If this proposal is confirmed I will certainly use the pool.
Definitely go forward with the proposal - the community needs it
Design looks fantastic and it is about time that some great facilities were provided to
the Rockdale and surrounding communities.
Even though I would not be a frequent user, I believe the complex is necessary for the
community to be upgraded
Excellent use of ratepayers money!
Facilities in St George / Sutherland Shire for indoor 25m pools are sadly lacking. In
winter many young up and coming swimmers struggle to find a facility to train in. Most
facilities in St George / Sutherland Shire are virtually original condition.
Fully support expanding the facilities at Bexley Pool for the local community. Thank
you for considering this proposal!
Good facilities needed at the centre as more of the community will use it
Great community proposal
Great for the community & our schools.
Great idea for a growing community in a popular St George suburb. Would attract
plenty of family atmosphere
Great idea for the area
Great initiative. About time Bexley had some proper recreation facilities
I am 51 years old, a local public accountant always lived in the area /Carlton 21yrs
and everyone knows the St George is a jewel, the BEST place to live and such quality
facilities proposed are well deserving to the area long time coming.
I am very active but close to retirement, like many other residents, and will have much
more time to use the centre. It is also important to have places that foster sense of
community and inclusion for those, like retirees or stay at home mothers, who may be
more isolated than they are used to.
I am very pleased with this plan. With the new facilities many more locals will use the
pool/gym.
I cannot believe that there are some councillors that are opposed to the development
of Bexley pools. As a resident of Bexley and a rate payer I expect the council to
develop and improve facilities in our community, but it seems that every time a
worthwhile proposal comes along it gets put into the too hard basket until someone
has the backbone to make a decision. This proposal can only be a benefit for the local
area, as well as a show piece for the local community.
I enjoy the swimming centre and attend daily. It is a wonderful centre for the
community.
I feel this proposal would service the community across a range of services e.g.
schools, sports clubs ,personal etc. also given our changing climate indoor facilities
are very important for the health of staff and visitors. Also the amount of money spent
would be recovered in a timely fashion.
I feel we really need this facility in the area, as there is nothing like it. Although there is
the swimming school at Bexley Pools currently, it is too difficult to continue in winter
and therefore, we have to take our children to other areas for lessons. This would
make such an improvement to the area.
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I live in Lugarno 50% of my time and the balance is is in Tea Gardens or travelling
interstate. I also own a commercial property in Bexley North and believe that Bexley &
Bexley North should be one of the most sought after suburbs to live south of the
CBD....This new pool proposal will just about put it there. I am a regular lap swimmer
at Bexley and just enjoy the surroundings, peaceful environment, and being able to
generally have a lane to myself ( travel time is not a consideration for the benefits
gained). RCC has a gem here please don't waste it.
I love Bexley location for a pool
I love the community feel to BP. I enjoy the open green spaces and the freshness of
the pool site. The pool feels safe and accommodating. Please the less s/steel and
glass we have the better
I personally believe that making such facilities renovated and available attracts youth
out of the streets and we would see more healthier environment here at St George
and Bexley area. Thank you.
I spent 21 years of my formation years at Bexley North and this type of complex is a
must for the area. When I lived at Bexley North, if we wanted a swim we had to walk
to Brighton and I mean walk. This complex is a necessity for the area, irrespective of
cost.
I strongly support the proposal - believing that it will drastically improve the social and
economic paradigms that make up the city of Rockdale
i think it is a great proposal for the area and one that would the best swimming centre
in the St George area.
I think it is fantastic for Rockdale council to be supporting such a family friendly
resource which will promote a healthy lifestyle in our local area. Well done!
I think the new proposal will be a fantastic facility for the local community. I know my
family and I would get a lot of great use out of it. Thank you
I think the pool upgrade proposal is absolutely necessary for the good of Rockdale
and its community. Health and safety in swimming is a rewarding part of a life in our
country
I think the proposal excellent for the area and the surrounding communities to enjoy it
I think the rate payers money will be well spent on this project and is a real investment
in the suburb and in the future. Parking facilities will need to be improved and access
to Preddy's Rd may need to be re addressed.
I think this development is a great project that the whole community will be able to use
I think this is a sensational idea for the local community
I think this is a vital facility for young and old
I think this is an excellent proposal and will mean that my family and I will use the pool
far more frequently than we have in the past.
I think this is great for our community.
I think this project sounds great! It definitely requires an uplift! I'll be visiting more often
once all completed.
I think this would be a great improvement to the community. The upgrade would
attract more people to the swimming pool including myself
i think this would be an amazing idea. it would really help out everyone and bring new
members of the community to get involved by coming to the new centre
I totally support proposal and hope they can go ahead with it!!
I totally support the proposal as it will be a great asset to the St George community.
As a local resident and neighbour sharing the same street address number with the
pool, I also welcome the increased number of community members that will use the
updated facility. I have enjoyed listening to and experiencing the lively activity of local
members using the pool (over a period of more than 20 years), when it was used in its
hey days, and hope that it will not be too long when Bexley Pools will be a popular
destination amongst the St George community and beyond - young and old.
I travel from Greenacre for my teenage children. To use this facility I would not need
to go anywhere else
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I use pool (morning) and gym (afternoon) on a daily basis. Though winter it is too cold
for outdoor pool (main reason I use Hurstville Aquatic Centre in winter) I'd also like a
better fitness centre which will greatly increase patronage of the centre
I use the Bexley swimming centre extensively from October through to April and I
think putting the time and money into re-developing this centre with an indoor pool
and other facilities will greatly increase the patronage throughout the year as the
current outdoor pool and facilities are too exposed for routine use through the winter
months. I also think this centre is a valuable community asset as the only other
aquatic centre immediately in the area is Hurstville aquatic centre, which is regularly
overcrowded, leading to poor patron satisfaction. I would much rather see Bexley
swimming centre upgraded than to see the area turned over to property developers.
I was here the day it opened & have been coming regularly ever since, I would hate to
see it close
I will enjoy the centre a lot more with the new proposal. Currently I'm attending the
Maroubra pool which offers the exact facility in the proposal. In hot summer days the
outdoor pool isn't the best during the day
I work at Kogarah High School and these plans will serve to better our community.
I work in the area
I work in the area and may likely be using it after work sometimes
I work in the area and use the facility every now and again.
I work in the area and would like to use it
I would definitely come here if it was upgraded
I would love to use a local pool and gym all year round. I grew up at this pool and our
area desperately needs this facility
I would only use it once a month or less because I already have a swimming pool but
the proposal plans look great and I would recommend going there to anyone,
definitely. If I lived close by, I would go there every day depending on the cost of
entry.
I would use the facilities during winter as well as summer
I would welcome such a facility. I would get quite a lot of use out of it with any young
family. My kids love the pool and such a facility will only enhance their fun.
If Council can get approval of this Proposal, the community not only Rockdale Council
but also the neighbouring suburbs will benefit from this development. This Fitness
centre is very helpful to every community member regardless of age group
If the present pool is upgraded I think it will meet the requirements and still be an
asset to the district
Important facility for all St George residents and schools within the area for swimming
carnivals. It is about time that our tax gets used for an important facility that will cater
to all residents within and outside the area
Important facility for St George residents and schools within the region. Councils and
Councillors are representatives of the "people" and therefore should execute what the
majority of people want and not serve their own interests
In my opinion the community would benefit from the upgrade. The Bexley pools as
present is not appealing, doesn't have any of the facilities that attracts myself or my
family to attend the pools. We go elsewhere, although Bexley pool is a walk away
from home. Great for me to exercise, have my little one looked after and just in
general for the kids to have a swim or even for birthday party!!! Hope this upgrade is
accepted.
In the past my grandchildren have used the facilities - both good swimmers these
days and fond memories stay with us of earlier days
indoor for swimming all year is great
Indoor pool will increase no. of people who use the pool and make it viable in winter
It appears to be a great facility and I look forward to using it when completed. Please
go ahead with the plans.
It is a brilliant initiative that will benefit all the community. It is an asset that must be
improved.
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It is a proposal that is of benefit to the future health of our children. Increase in
physical activity and decrease in obesity as well as overall health benefits to all. This
facility is definitely required. It is (Bexley + surrounding suburbs) an area where
younger families are moving in and there are not enough facilities to cater for our
needs. It would be a great asset to Bexley and Rockdale Council. Myself and others
who live in the area go to other facilities such as MLC Burwood swim centre for
swimming as facilities are better and there is an indoor pool and facilities for parents.
"We need this swimming and Leisure Centre"
It is essential this goes ahead and quickly
It is essential to upgrade this establishment for the benefit of the community
It is essential we upgrade these facilities now to better serve the growing community
in the future.
It is the most fantastic community proposal - something Rockdale can be proud of
achieving - instead of looking at other municipalities / cities
it is very important that we have an upgrade i am over 30 years old now and for as
long as i can remember Bexley pools hasn't changed one bit. It is a very good and
helpful team there but the facilities need to be upgraded to cater for a growing
community. I live in Arncliffe and the amount of new people in the area is growing
dramatically
It looks great and I believe it will be a significant investment for the area.
It looks really good and I hope that this will happen because the pool at the moment
isn’t that great whereas this is.
It seems to be an excellent idea that would be beneficial to all those in the immediate
area as well as local schools who use it for their swimming carnivals. I would love to
see this proposal implemented.
It should of been done a long time ago
It sounds a fantastic proposal
It sounds like a great idea. Bexley pool could use an upgrade.
It will be fantastic if the proposal is in place. It is something that the local residents and
local schools will be proud of Rockdale Council as Rockdale Council has done
something really fantastic to the public.
It will be great asset to Bexley and surrounding areas. There are younger families
coming to Bexley and there are no other facilities of this type in the area that is
adequate.
It will be great to see this go through. Great community thing
It will be wonderful to have these great facilities. The present pool badly needs
renovations. It’s about time council did something.
It will greatly benefit the community
It would be a great asset to the local community and Sydney wide. We look forward to
swimming here in the future
It would be a great loss to the community - loss of health, benefits, and quality of life
eg stress relief, recreation, physical fitness. We would lose opportunities for our young
to engage in water sports, enhance their skills in sports. Obesity in adults and children
is our main public health issue - no pool = poor health to community & poor
health/productivity outcomes
It would be a much improved facility for older residents
It would be a wonderful facility for both parents and children to enjoy. We currently are
not able to make use of the facility at the same time as our children. This development
would make this possible and make it a family event
It would be brilliant! A great opportunity for recreational activities and a great place to
keep fit! This Leisure Centre needs to be built!
It's a fantastic proposal
It's a great community facility, and I would love to see it upgraded. Thanks!
Its a wonderful pool and should be upgraded
It's about time - am glad that my grandchildren (7) who also live around
Bexley/Kingsgrove will come and use the facility.
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It’s about time they upgraded the pool so we can use it more often. I have raised my
family in the area and my family is raising their families with young children. Well done
if we go ahead
It's amazing. I hope it goes through. Will be a massive change to when I use to train,
compete n hang out there. Also somewhere I can take my kids too for a family affair.
Its an amazing idea, can't wait until its finished
It's needed
I've been training at Bexley pool for years now, and I strongly believe it is need of a
well deserved upgrade. I also believe that the new centre will increase the number of
people using it's facilities substantially, and will be a huge profit in the future.
I've swum at Bexley Pool for 21 years
Just get on with it. The existing pool was only open for 1/2 the year. With the
upgrades, the utilisation shall be higher
Lets have more of this type of community infrastructure for our families and children
Let's just get on with it and make this happen!
Let's make this happen! Great idea
Live in Hurstville area, but would come here in preference to Hurstville Centre (Forest
Rd & King Georges Rd) as it is too hot, steamy and often too crowded
Living in Bexley all my life, it would be great to have an upgrade in facilities at Bexley
pools for my family and friends to gather. I believe it'll be beneficial to our community.
It's about time there was an upgrade!
Long overdue. Brilliant proposal. Look forward to the new facilities going ahead.
Long time local. I remember when Bexley opened last century. It's time for an
upgrade!
Look forward to it!
Look forward to the upgrade
looking forward to a pool upgrade, my husband and I have been swimming there for
over 15 years, the new pool will enable residence of Rockdale and the surrounding
areas a swimming centre for many years to come, at a great location.
Looking forward to such facility in my own area so I will have to travel less distance.
Means it will be close enough to jog to also. This is a long time overdue
Looking forward to the new development
Looks amazing. Wish our local Council could be so futuristic
Looks Great.
looks great. Is what the area needs. Current centre is lacking in facilities
LOVE how the plans are looking!
Love it, I'm all for it
Love the idea!
MAKE IT HAPPEN. NO POLITICS
Marist College Kogarah will like the New Update.
Most definitely a benefit to the community + to local schools and community groups
Much needed for the area
much needed in this area
My children currently train 8hrs to 10hrs/week. We want to go to Bexley (all year). The
area is in great need for this facility. It needs to go ahead. Other local pools
overcrowded!
My daughters attend St Ursula's College Kingsgrove, so it would be a wonderful place
for them to visit with the school as well as after school. So I am fully in support of the
proposal.
My family and I use the pool and will continue to do so. Greatly needed in the area.
Close to home.
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My family, friends and I are really excited about this proposal. I currently travel
elsewhere to access a fitness centre and would prefer to use a local service. From my
conversations with others in the area, I believe this proposal will be much more
utilised by the community and those living outside the local area. Great proposal....we
love it!
My partner and I live next door and will be using this facility every day if built. We
believe it will greatly benefit the residents in the area and add value to the area. We
would be particularly interested in the gym facilities
Needed for our community
Needs an upgrade. Will be a valuable community asset!!
No, except this is a great idea.
No, I believe it’s a great idea & good use of taxpayers money.
No, its all good
None other than I think it is just what we need in the area.
Our area needs something like this to revitalise, update and bring it into line with
surrounding Council areas and facilities
Our communities are squeezed into high rises. The continual 2 parent working means
outdoor community centres will become more necessary in the future
Our community is in need of the Bexley Swimming and Leisure Centre proposal
Our community needs this!!!!!
Our family is excited about the proposed development. We currently use the pool 4-5
days a week but winter is an issue with heating. In the past we travelled to other
Council areas to use their facilities.
Our family relies on Bexley Pool as an important part of our lives and look forward to
its ongoing availability and improvement
Our local pool is well overdue for an upgrade, this plan is fantastic.
Outstanding proposal, thank you Rockdale Council
Please go ahead. This has been on the agenda for years. Mark Hanna has done a
great job with updates from Council meetings and lots of people have taken an
interest because they care
Presently the pool is a little run down. With the upgrade the pool will be used more.
It's one of the only rec facilities in the area so should be upgraded
Rockdale Council is to be congratulated on having the foresight to build something
like this for the community. I work at Kogarah
Rockdale Council needs to ensure Bexley Swimming & Leisure Centre goes ahead if
they really care about the community they are representing
Rockdale Council should be proud enough to provide excellent facilities for the
community, not being half hearted. We have a youth population who need the facilities
plus an aging population who should be provided for to keep good health
Rockdale needs a state of the art swimming facility in the west of the municipality. The
Hurstville Aquatic Centre is overcrowded, a sign of the popularity of swimming as a
leisure activity.
Should go ahead will benefit the community especially children
Sorely needed in our local area - always swam at the beach, but after recent reports
of pollution, I've stopped.
Support the Bexley Swimming & Leisure Centre Proposal to the benefit of the
community, schools, and everyone who needs to use it
swimming is vital for the community
The area has needed something like this for a long time.
The area really needs an updated swimming and leisure to save residents travelling to
other areas and to help local residents increase their health and fitness.
The community must come first. I would to think what would happen to our facility if
the proposal does not get approved
The community needs a facility like this proposed one. The current pool is inadequate
The community needs this pool. An excellent plan as long as it is affordable for all!
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The Community, and the present pool, must view this proposal, as being vital for the
locals of the Municipality.
The current facility is in disrepair and thus we use it sparingly. The proposed facility
would inject a positive leisure centre facility with massive flow on benefits for the local
community.
The district needs more facilities including rehabilitation. Hurstville gym is already over
crowded
the local area is currently lacking in the facilities the new leisure centre would provide
The pool is an excellent facility for the local area. It has been run down for many
years. The sooner these upgrades are implemented the better off this community &
council
The pool upgrade would be of great benefit to local schools and the community. The
upgrade has been a long time coming. It is pleasing to see that the council is taking
this upgrade seriously. I have attended many swimming carnival here and my family
frequent the pool regularly. The upgrade would make our experience here very
pleasant.
The proposal will benefit the whole community
The proposal would be a great asset for the community and in line with modern trends
The proposed development will be highly regarded by residents and the community at
large
The proposed improvement on the pool would be a positive addition to the
surrounding community. There are the obvious benefits for the locals who would be
more inclined to make us of this facility as well as the broader implications. These
include the increased likelihood of larger groups such as schools to use an improved
facility for evens such as swimming carnivals. An improvement of the facilities would
lead to more individuals and groups using this facility and I would be more inclined to
use this facility should it be improved.
The proposed pool would be a brilliant thing for the area. My kids have been
swimming here for the last 5 years and what's disappointing is that we have to go
elsewhere to swim in the winter
The proposed upgrade will provide the residents surrounding Rockdale LGA ability to
use the facility that may not be available in their local LGA or already running at full
capacity. In return Rockdale Council may benefit from patrons residing outside its
LGA to make this project economically viable and sustainable in the long run.
The St George / Sutherland Shire is totally lacking the swim facilities of other areas
and is showing in our results. This redevelopment is a necessity.
The whole family is looking forward to the fine development
There are many community non-gov organisations that could make use of this facility
eg Greenwood Cottage, Benevolent Society, Bexley. It would be great to provide
these groups with free/very discounted prices to access the facility. They would
benefit greatly! But thank you for being willing to invest this money into the community
This appears to be a great complex when completed it sounds as if it will be a very
sound business investment not to mention the benefits the community both young and
old will take advantage of for many decades to come
this area needs a facility like this
This area needs a new Swimming & Leisure centre that is being proposed. I fully
support the proposal
This area needs facilities
This centre is badly needed. Why should Rockdale residents and other local
community people have to travel out of the area for quality swim and leisure facilities
This community desperately needs a local swimming leisure centre. This would be
beneficial for families
This community needs a leisure centre
This complex would be up with Homebush & Sutherland aquatic centre good to see
something like this in the St George area
This development is well overdue for Rockdale area. Very important to have such a
fitness facility to encourage good health for all ages
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This development will help heaps around this area and also will allow us to go
swimming any time of the year
This is a fabulous proposal and an investment in the health and leisure of the
community. I have been a regular of the pools for 38 yrs and now take my own
children there. I highly recommend and support the upgrade.
This is a fantastic idea and will adequately provide a similar establishment to the
Hurstville Aquatic Centre which is not local for us!
This is a fantastic opportunity to make Bexley Pool a world class facility; something all
in RC to be proud of!
This is a great Proposal and would be very beneficial for the community and other
areas
This is a wonderful opportunity to build a first class facility that will in turn strengthen
community participation in such a venue provide a facility to support elite training from
the local and broader area helping to build a community profile and give Rockdale a
chance to demonstrate evidence about insightful consideration to the quality of the
future opportunity in our community
This is a wonderful opportunity to build a sustainable, long-lasting pool complex. It is
incredibly important in terms of encouraging healthy lifestyles and ensuring that
children are taught to swim properly - essential when we live in a warm, coastal area. I
view this facility as an essential service for our community.
This is exactly what the community needs!
this is such a great idea as i think it will bring our bexley community closer together
and a friendly environment for all ages.
This is the development Kingsgrove/Bexley Area has been waiting for, a much
needed boost to community development to health and fitness is requried
This pool is such an important asset to the local community and also the wider
community. We live in Mortdale and i travel to Bexley pool as it is the closest outdoor
50m pool for us. i don't know where we would go otherwise. We love it there, please
proceed with the Proposal!!! It looks brilliant!! People will come to a brilliant aquatic
centre like this.
This proposal will be a great asset for our community and encourage more learn to
swim programs for children and health & wellbeing.
This proposal will be a great asset to the community
This seems, to me, to be an important investment in community infrastructure and will
promote healthy lifestyles among residents of the local area.
This upgrade is beneficial for the locals and nearby communities, because it is
affordable for families to train and enjoy swimming lessons for our generations, who
knows we might have a future Ian Thorpe using Bexley Pools.
This will be a fantastic asset for the community. Why all the delays? Just do it. It's far,
far better than anything I have seen since being resident here for 10 years; it's
realistic unlike that Brighton pier proposal, I love Brighton but the first thing you need
to do about that is get the traffic off the Grand Parade instead of building boardwalks
and carparks!!
This will be an amazing centre that will provide jobs and opportunities for many in the
community
This will be fantastic to boost the local area
This will be great for community
This will be an excellent facility for people of all ages and swimming abilities. My
family and I look forward to using the new pool.
This would be a fantastic community asset
This would be a great asset to the local community.
This would be a great community asset
Though the budget and effort for this proposal are extensive, this will be a legacy for
future generations in Rockdale and Bexley. The foresight and planning of the current
generation will serve to enhance health, fitness and community interaction for
decades to come. This could also serve to attract tourists/visitors to the Rockdale
area.
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Disability
To have a provision for fitness and swimming in the are would make a great deal of
difference to working people who need to use facilities.
To upgrade the swimming centre would be a very good thing as it is important for the
well being of the community
We believe this proposal would be good for the community
We currently use Hurstville Aquatic Centre and this development would be great for
not only our family & friends but also our community
We need a good facility like this in the area. If the pool is closed then many will go to
other St George area pools
We need a leisure centre in Bexley
We need a leisure centre in this area that has an indoor and outdoor pool with better
facilities, if you need inspiration have a look at Sutherland leisure centre, its a fantastic
centre with both indoor and outdoor pools and great facilities. Its time the St George
area caught up with the other councils in providing a state of the art facility.
We need the pool in Bexley. So many people will make use of this facility for many
years to come. So, please continue with the upgrade ASAP.
We need this in our area - 12 months swimming with indoor facility!! My kids are at
Hurstville all year - I want to come back to Bexley for squads
We need this in our area. All year round swimming in indoor pool
What a great facility this will be for the Bexley area especially the schools in terms of
swimming lessons & carnival. Not to mention the benefit people will receive from
using the pools & exercise facility.
Whilst I do not use the pool myself, the buses taking school children to it seem a good
reason the area needs this centre. My family can also use the area when visiting me
Would be a fantastic expansion for the benefit of our local community
Would be a great facility for the area - desperately needs upgrading - wasting 20,000
litres daily due to old pool is almost a crime!
Earlwood, Bardwell Park will use this as well
I am sure the above proposal will be a great one to this area
I think our community needs appropriate and updated facilities
I think this proposal is imperative for my local area, there are many school aged
children who use the centre currently and the upgrade would be an excellent
contribution to the community spirit and life of the area + support additional people
coming from
Must look after needs of our future generation
The pool is a must for community. The pool attracts competitors from all over Sydney
for carnivals
This area badly needs another new, quality aquatic and leisure centre for families and
other members of the community. Hurstville Aquatic Centre cannot cope with the
number of people in the St George area
We have 2 children and currently travel outside of our area to enjoy and use the
above facilities. We are in very strong support of this proposal it would be great for
Bexley and its community. Naturally we'd be thrilled if this was only down the road fro
As an older resident this development would make it more comfortable to use the
facility for exercise and rehabilitation. Consideration to easier access to pool spaces in
the new pools would be important. The current facility makes this very difficult for
older/disabled people to easily use the venue
Because of being unable to climb in and out I haven't been going. My grandchildren
live in Bexley North. The Chair has been broken a long time
I am a 76y/old mother with a 40y/old intellectually disabled daughter. The proposed
facility would make a big difference to our lives and bring us great enjoyment.
In my work as a carer for St George City Transport it became glaringly obvious when
St George Hospital pool was closed for a year of the lack of pools for disabled eg
Calvary and Sans Souci which only has lifting facilities available
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Facilities
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Please make sure that public transport links directly to the pool so that people with
mobility problems can use/access the pool easily. Many mobility impaired or ageing
people don’t own cars but need a pool to keep active, pain free
Will there be stairs into the warm water pools so elderly can enjoy the water as well?
Not just a ladder can't use them.
- The pool is well located within the LGA and should remain in Bexley. - Is it possible
to consider upgrades of the walking tracks to the pool through Bardwell Valley
bushland, to promote alternate means of accessing the pool other than by car? I enjoy
running to the pool through the valley. - Could the pool be built so that a section could
be screened off at times for the Muslim community? I thought it was good when the
pool used to close for a period to accommodate this part of the community. - Please
try and maximise its environmental performance
1. Why are information days only on Wednesdays? (excluding many residents) 2.
Concept plan does not realistically show the developments 'footprint' in relation to the
existing topography/residences etc 3. Why only one concept plan? This is a classic
"decide and defend" approach to "consultation"/information process
I enjoy the relax current environment at Bexley pool right now as it’s quiet, easy to
park, very green and community friendly atmosphere. Please retain
I suppose Bexley Swimming and Leisure Centre Proposal would be ideally
forthcoming. It's got a lot of space and land, trees all around would be a good
investment for the next generation
Make sure recycling water is put in please as there is a lot of roof space to catch the
water
One of the best things about Bexley Pool is the community feel (aspect) it has. This
proposed development will commercialise Bexley Pool. With YMCA taking control
there has been an overall improvement with the facilities. We love BP the way it is.
Sustainability - Environmental
The proposal seems to be attempting to meet a wide variety of perceived 'leisure' and
sporting needs on one site. The present parkland setting will be lost to provide a gym
and the large indoor pool areas. Retain the lawns, replace the current pools on sound
footings and cut back on the rest of the proposal
1. Enmore Pool (AKAC) is wonderful - please copy this design - light filled, envirofriendly 2. A room for yoga/pilates is higher priority + cheaper than a gym 3. Exercise
like swimming is essential for physical + mental health - Bexley Pool is much needed!
1. If a water slide (either fixed or inflatable or both kinds) were a feature, this would be
an attraction for older children. Currently we go to Sutherland or Botany, as Hurstville
seems too dirty or over chlorinated. It would be nice to retain the outdoor grassy area
of the current pool. 2. Please do not waste money on closing off a "womens only" area
as one other Council did. It is not appropriate for the majority to fund 1-2% of the
population for this when they can access the private sector and pay themselves.
A 50 metre indoor pool would be better, though obviously more expensive. Consider
the option to cover the outdoor pool at a later date for UV protection. Also a centre
divider on the 50 metre to double the lane usage (2x25 metre pools) eg NSW uni and
Woy Woy.
A 50m pool with grass area $ a stand for school sports days and swimming carnivals
and a toddler pool would suffice. Putting in submerged benches for smaller children to
use for swimming lessons that could be removed would mean that you would not
need an additional 25m pool
A decent cafe as opposed to a kiosk would be good. I'd like to be able to have
breakfast before going to work.
A friend playing water polo suggested a pool accommodating water polo playing
dimensions would be a good idea, especially to this demographic also
A gym that is not to costly would be great
A low-cost local gym would be a great addition to the local community.
A single site for a range of activities would make this very attractive to visit instead of
separate venues. I would transfer other memberships for the ease this represents
Add water refill stations, add recycling bins, don't sell bottled water, upgrade
bathrooms and showers
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Add waterslide!
An outdoor children's play pool would be good (0.5 - 1m) depth. I would much rather
my children swim in an outdoor pool in fresh air
At least maintain the pools
Can you please put a waterslide at Bexley Pool because my two sister and me would
have so much fun. Thanks!
Change rooms - Family room needed so that young children do not have to change in
Ladies or Mens change rooms. Disabled chair lift needs to be in a position that
minimises walk or other to pool. Disabled change rooms important. This room needs
another chair and more pegs to hang clothes, towels etc.
Consider a waterslide. The only place I know of with a waterslide is the two slides they
have at Botany pools. It would be very popular with the majority of people especially
children who visit. It wouldn't take up much area and would create more revenue
Consider to include in development the ability to play sport like waterpolo. There is a
shortage of such pools for schools, clubs and state associations
Could a waterslide be considered
Could you add jumping board and waterslide as well as a water playground like
Sydney Olympic Park Aquatic Centre
Design and facility mix are excellent. It is essential however, that outdoor seating for
50m pool is covered with waterproof material. This will allow school carnivals and
other events to proceed even if raining. At present, carnivals are cancelled if raining
causing re book problems. A waterproof cover over the 600 seat grandstand will
totally eliminate this problem.
Don't mess with my Bexley pool! I like it just the way it is and while the upgrade is
taking place, the pool will be closed for MONTHS!!! Where am I supposed to swim?
This is a rort of community funds and welfare.
dose it have a slide
Fantastic design and facility mix. Long overdue. Will cater for everyone in the
community. However, the cover over grandstand for 50m pool must be waterproof to
allow carnivals and events to take place even if raining, and prevent cancellations.
Great idea but I think the main thing is fix the outdoor 50m pool
Great to have many recreational facilities on one site. Opportunity to have a drawcard
facility for elite sportspeople
Great to see increase in parking. A must have is an undercover spectator area
suitable for school swimming carnivals. (See Roselands spectator area). Great to see
the councils future vision.
Gym with excellent creche/child minding is a MUST. Currently a member of Hurstville
Leisure Centre
Have you thought of half closing the 50m pool. eg Inverell and Junee pools are such,
work well and maybe more cost effective
Heating in change rooms is needed in winter and on cold days. Canterbury Pool has
heating in the change rooms.
Hurstville Pool is already overcrowded. We should be maintaining facilities for local
people. You can't afford to lose existing infrastructure.
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I fully support the proposal. Most important is the provision of an out door 50 metre
swimming pool combined with an indoor swimming pool in the one facility as in the
present proposal. The 50 metre pool is essential for schools, training and recreation
lap swimming in line with other councils. Rockdale must retain a 50 metre pool, we
cannot afford to go backwards on this. As in the proposal an indoor pool is also
essential combined with a 50 metre pool. This is because in the colder months
swimmers in the indoor pool will subsidise and make the 50 metre pool viable through
the year (blankets as with other pools open in the winter can cover some lanes and
retain heat). An all year round facility will be more viable as swimmers will have the
choice of either outdoor or indoor swimming all year. This will mean retention of
swimmers through the whole year even when it is colder. Swimmers will be less
inclined to permanently switch to an indoor facility in other areas. The present
proposal will retain existing swimmers and attract new swimmers and people who may
not have started swimming. Good on Rockdale. The proposal is a winner!!
I hope that there will be a basketball court as many other centres that have basketball
courts are further away, so this would be very convenient.
I like my pool and so do my kids
I like my pool so don't get rid of it!
I met and discussed some of the design aspects with Zoran at the current Pool site. If
the plot size allowed for it, my suggestions related to the inclusion of an undercover,
low cost (?) dual court, Sports Hall space which could be booked for basketball,
indoor hockey, indoor soccer, netball, gymnastics, volleyball, badminton etc. This is in
high demand in the community and similar facilities are very successful overseas.
This would encourage the usage at the site apart from aquatic activities. The separate
gym hall alongside the equipment area would seem to be adequate for pump,
aerobics, zumba, pilates, yoga etc. The equipment area should include rowers, stair
climbers, Swiss balls and spinning bikes as well as any weight-related machines. The
proximity of the steam and sauna areas should allow access from the change rooms.
Washing machines and costume spin/driers should be included in the change area
accessories. Change, pool, sauna/steam should all be on one level. The proximity to
and combined use of the nearby cycle track should also be promoted. As mentioned
above, I'd be happy to provide feedback within the Reference Group in the hope of
helping ensure that Rockdale creates a world class facility.
I take my kids to Hurstville Aquatic Centre because there is a warm pool for children's
learn to swim and shade on hot days. I'll now go to Bexley instead.
I think it would be good to have an all in one sport centre to accommodate for a
gymnasium and other sports such as waterpolo
I totally support this - it will be great to have a gym facility close to home
I would like a covered 50m pool
I would like a covered 50m pool
I would like a heated outdoor 50m pool available during winter at minimal cost to the
environment
I would want to have a waterslide
I'd like to encourage the existence of a decent kid-friendly coffee shop/kiosk where
mums/women/friends can sit and chat over a coffee after swim/gym. Better if not
within the smelly, chlorine area which isn't safe for little kids anyway
If you are going to the expense of replacing the 50m outdoor pool and you want it to
be of national standard, put in kicker starting blocks, not just basic ones. This will
attract competitive swimmers from all over the southern Sydney area as there is no
where else to practice using these.
It would be good if your were able to make a section of the pool able to incorporate a
water polo sized field due to the lack of facilities in the local area.
Just fix the big pool. It is a fantastic setup as it is
Just fix up existing pools and leave as is. It is the nicest family friendly pool and
surrounding that one could have when you went for a swim and I have used it very
frequently in the 35 years I have lived here. My girls learned to swim there and was in
squad. Don't ruin something so nice.
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Magnificent proposal. Much needed upgrade and represents great value for money.
Please ensure the grandstand retractable cover is waterproof. This will prevent school
carnival cancellations when it rains, and gives families somewhere to go when it rains
rather than overcrowd the indoor facility.
Make it fun and good and add water refilling stations
Make the indoor pool 50m
My only comment would be to make sure that there is enough shaded area & that the
shaded area is waterproof. Thank you
My family and I live in Bexley. We use the pool quite a bit but do think that there is a
current lack of shade for non-swimmers as it is. If there was more shade we would
use it more often. The new proposed design fixes that problem so we would use it
more. More local schools would also use it if there was shade for non-swimmers,
because my child’s school Kingsgrove goes to Roselands specifically for the shade
around the outside pool area.
Need more 50m outdoor pools that are maintained and heated for public use. Sick of
stuffy unhealthy indoor pools.
Nice new showers
Outdoor 50m competition pool with seating and shade structure- shade structure
should be water proof also.
Please do not allow any barbeque area.
Please ensure there is suitable sun cover above any outside tables / seating areas
Please include indoor - basketball/hockey etc layout in gymnasium
Please make sure there will be a 50m outdoor pool
Proposed service and delivery access, plumbing (lots) etc. Like to be involved in
discussion please
Rockdale needs a good 50m pool for serious squad swimmers. Hurstville Pool has
large numbers of Rockdale residents using it
The 50 metre pool needs to be deep enough for competition water polo. This would
provide a further much needed facility for the sport and a further 12 month income
stream for the centre.
The leisure play area should have water features such as buckets, water cannons and
the like. Maybe a zero depth play area?
The proposal creates a facility which will encourage me to train more of our students
for water polo knockout competitions. As a teacher at St George Girls High School I
fully support this positive step.
The proposed facilities would be good to have on one site - its complete can do all
your training at the one venue
The retractable shade over the spectator bleachers should be waterproof. Or why
make them retractable at all? If they are permanent they can definitely be waterproof.
Water bottle refilling stations
Water slide would be another option for kids.
We have used pool for 35+ years. Do not need an "Aquatic Centre" just upgrade the
main pool as required and make sure the disabled chair works. We like the grounds
and the general setup.
What about children’s outdoor area? BBQ area? Smoking area near small kids pool
but not too close not far away
Why not 'fix' the current outdoor 50m pool also possible 'heat' this like Victoria pool,
Glebe. I would like aqua aerobics for myself and lap swimming plus learn to swim for
my grandchildren
Will the heating be solar supplemented? Roundabout needs to be added to the entry
and exit of the carpark
With the facilities that would be available with the new pool would plan on taking the
grandchildren (young) on a fairly regular basis
Wonderful facility and something for everyone. Cover over grandstand should be
waterproof so carnivals and other events don't get cancelled during wet weather.
Worth every cent of $27 million.
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Yes, include tennis courts. Move the (close) existing Bexley Road tennis courts to this
new centre
food affordable
I love the idea of large children’s play/leisure pool, I have used the one at Sutherland
with children and all loved it
I think it's a great proposal for the future. Lots of kids in the area would benefit and the
gym makes it absolutely awesome (and the creche!!)
Make the pool deep
Yes I think Bexley swimming pool is great for its simplicity all pools are outside with a
fresh open appeal. Just upgrade the pool/pumps/filters and leave well enough alone. I
dislike everything indoors. Where can the small children swim outdoors in this
As I am approaching retirement I am planning to increase my sporting activities and
what better way to do so than with a state-of-the-art facility
Doing laps is the best way to keep fit
I am elderly and this helps to keep me mobile
I am writing with regard to Masters swimmers and the ongoing health benefits this
pool will provide to adult swimmers. Thank you for having the foresight to provide for
older people, a safe venue that allows gentle exercise year round
I look forward to having such a facility of this magnitude in my backyard. This is
excellent for kids in promoting exercise/fitness as most families love water and these
days people have little space in their yards for a pool. My kids attend the local school
of which their swimming program takes them to an out of area pool, many schools will
be able to use Bexley as swimming centre.
I support this proposal fully as I think the new facility would encourage more families
with children to exercise. With the increasing obesity rate in children I would have
thought the Council would want to encourage exercise by this amazing proposal, not
remove the facilities
I think this will be a great ingredient to a healthy population. People will get into a
fitness regime.
I want to use proposed Leisure Centre to keep fit
Swimming is a great exercise and it will be well used.
The proposal is a sensible solution to meeting the health, recreation & sporting needs
of the community. The integrated facility will be a great investment in the quality of life
of residents
This needs to be done for the health of the community
this will be wonderful for everyone to enjoy and to get fitter and healthier
We need these kinds of exercise/leisure centres. Important for well being of
communities
With my HSC finished, I am now finding myself spending more time exercising, and
because I live just up the street, Bexley Pool is perfect for me. I think Bexley has been
in desperate need of an upgrade for awhile, and modern amenities will definitely
improve the popularity of the centre
Yes. Coming from outer western Sydney I realise the importance of swimming pools
and leisure centres in promoting fitness and social activity among people of all ages
and backgrounds. Without leisure centres and community swimming pools only those
who are lucky or wealthy enough to afford private swimming pools or able to fit
swimming pools in their backyards can enjoy the benefits of what should be a
community asset and a community activity. Not everyone is able to get their own pool.
Community pools are a good way of encouraging young people to get active and
healthy. It is cheaper than a fitness centre. My wife uses the pool frequently as a
fitness facility with weights are too hard for her and can cause injury. Swimming as a
non-weight bearing activity ensures she stays fit and assists with weight loss
maintenance. It is essential that Rockdale Council expends funds on a worthwhile
community asset. At Hawkesbury we are blessed with 2 pools. We used to have 3 but
UWS in their stupidity have decided due to lack of funds by a tight-arse Federal
government to bulldoze their pool. Rockdale Council don’t be dropkicks like UWSHawkesbury campus.
28 March 2012
Learn to swim
- Love visual link between children's pools for easy supervision. - We could and
would come to learn to swim all year in the new indoor pool - Love to have 'local' gym
facilities and recommend keeping combined pool/gym direct debit idea - Also
improving cycling access options and bike racks - Outdoor showers great idea for
'hosing' off kids (in winter maybe have fixed warm water?) This is brilliant! Thanks
A worthwhile project which the Council will in the long term reap the benefits. Any
project which promotes fitness and well being is worth the investment especially if it
can save lives by teaching those vulnerable to learn to swim
Am a teacher at Earlwood Public School and we use the facility for our swimming
carnivals and learn to swim programs. A lot of our children use the facility for
recreation and structural swimming activities
As a life long (58 yrs) resident of Bexley North, I feel that the Swimming Centre is a
necessity. I used it when my children were young, and had it had an indoor heated
pool, would have had them taught to swim there. As it was, I had to do it in pools in
the Hurstville Council area
As a mother of two children who attend a school that uses this facility for its swimming
lessons and carnivals it is important to all of these school children to have this
upgrade go ahead. From my perspective alone it will be exciting to have a truly all
weather, modern sporting facility which will motivate me to start an exercise regime.
I'm really looking forward to it.
As a mother, I feel it is important that we have a facility that will be able to teach our
children necessary skills such as swimming and lifesaving
Bexley pool is a fantastic community facility - my 3 year old son already loves the pool
and will likely continue to throughout his childhood. His younger sibling would use the
creche. An indoor pool would make all year swimming possible for children. We love
the gym proposal as well
Brilliant idea. Once built more people will come. Perfect for teaching children how to
swim and for the whole family to exercise together
currently I am swimming at a pool near work. Would love the opportunity to have a pool
close by to have my son keep learning to swim, and me to do my laps near home.
Currently swim at Roselands pool at least once a week and my children did their
swimming lessons there as well because of the heated indoor pool. Bexley pool is a
great facility for the community but please bring it up to standard.
Given that the existing pool is leaking water - it must be replaced especially as
swimming in such a major part of Australian culture. All Australians need access to
learning to swim and improving fitness. Local residents would also benefit and need to
embrace local growth instead of being territorial!
I am a school teacher in the local area and the school currently uses the pool for learn
to swim programs for 2 weeks and for our swimming carnivals. For our carnivals, we
lack the room and parents and children have no where that is comfortable to sit. A
grand stand would be beneficial. For our learn to swim program, our infants classes
are often left cold from using the outdoor pool and many students do not turn up. The
indoor pool would be useful for this. I currently use the gym at the pool which was
recently put in and would love to follow up with a swim, however the outdoor pool is
simply too cold. I am also aware of many children who go to other swim centres to
continue lessons in winter because Bexley pool is just too cold. These are all issues
that could be fixed if the proposal went ahead.
I fully support this upgrade and am looking forward to being able to take my children
to the heated indoor pool to teach them to swim and for myself to improve my health
in the outdoor pool. I honestly believe there is nothing better than for people to learn
to swim and continue to do this throughout their lives. In this day and age it is
irresponsible of us not to provide facilities of this nature to allow our children to learn
to swim and then the ability to stay healthy throughout their lives, not to mention the
amount of drowning we hear of still.
I have a young family. Would be a great facility for families
I would like learn to swim in heated pool and aqua aerobics
I would like my children to be able to learn to swim in a state of the art facility
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It is essential that everyone has opportunity to be water wise. Closely down the pool
would disadvantage learn to swim classes.
It is long overdue and our children need it if they are to maintain swimming right
throughout the year.
It is most essential for our young people to learn to swim. I hope you include a nice
coffee shop and sell swimming accessories. A nice place for young mothers to meet
with their children. Please advertise well
It would be great to put the kids into swimming lessons and use the gym
Looks fantastic! Really important for Rockdale Council to have good swimming
facilities particularly to encourage young kids learning to swim.
My children have attended their swimming lessons for several years - having stay in
my local community I also like the fitness facilities that have recently been set up
My daughter has been learning to swim at the Bexley pool for some time and the staff
are always fantastic. I think the pool is currently underutilised, as it cannot be used in
winter. If the proposal goes ahead and there's an indoor pool then my daughter can
keep up her lessons all the year around. The pool is in a great location, so what are
the possibilities for the proposal to go ahead?
Our family uses Bexley Pool daily at times during the school holidays and for
swimming lessons for our children. An indoor facility would increase our use. We do
not currently use the pool in cold months
Personally I would use the pool more often. Professionally, as a PE Teacher students
at my school would utilise the facility more often - for sport, for PE lessons
The inclusion of a learn to swim pool is vital in providing swimming and water safety
lessons to children within the community
the NEED FOR SWIMMING TO BE TAUGHT TO ALL SCHOOL CHILDREN AND
HAVE IT INCLUDED IN THE CURRICULUM WILL MAKE IT ESSENTIAL TO HAVE A
COUNCIL POOL FACILITY SUCH AS BEXLEY.
Want a heated indoor learn to swim pool
We have just moved to the area and are looking forward to using the pool. My children
attend swimming lessons at the pool and we are looking forward to some warmer
weather so we can use the pool more frequently.
What a fantastic proposal to help our kids learn to swim! We need more facilities like
this.
What a great idea. I would bring all 3 kids to lessons. I would come during the day. I'd
have parties & this is the perfect place. Looking forward to having carnivals here also.
what a great upgrade, not only its good for day to day it is important for children’s
swimming development
With several pool drownings lately, it is very important for my kids to learn to swim
Introduce other local community's in our area. This will help to create a better, safer
and fun environment for kids to learn how to swim and will allow their parents to
participate in activities
A suggestion that the new swimming pool could be where the tennis courts are and
the tennis where the swimming pool is
It is not in the best location Pools will not cover costs Not enough dry space/facilities
Check the history on the Hurstville Centre
Rather than compare the number of sporting fields with the proposal, why not assess
the outcomes when very limited other facilities are being provided other than water
space. Council should check on the cost implications of the recent construction of the
Enmore Pool at Marrickville Council. Overall it appears to be an overdevelopment of
the site. Also, the development team appears to be biased on using the current site.
Demographics have changed since 1974 and Council's new LEP does nothing to
increase the population around the current site - suggest you compare census
information 1974 cf 2011.
The area of Rockdale is large enough to accommodate a smaller swimming facility in
the south of Rockdale
The location is on the outskirts of our area - should be more central
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Management
Miscellaneous
Parking
It would be wonderful to have this facility so close to home and would attract many
people back who have gone to other swim and leisure facilities.
The location of the proposal is ideal - practical for all residents of Rockdale local
government area as it is central. An easterly location is impractical for residents of
western part of the city, traffic congestion higher in that area. East has the beach
Accessibility of the facility might be somewhat limited, seeing that the popularity would
greatly increase.
As long as it is run professionally and hygienically. It would be good if there were pool
rules such as, showering before entering the pool, compulsory swimming cap,
designated lanes for lap swimmers and properly patrolled to ensure pool safety is
adhered to. If you want it to be a going concern and attract loyal patrons please have
a zero tolerance for bad behaviour. Longer trading hours would be good too to enjoy a
swim and sauna after work.
Bexley pool is a very quiet community based leisure centre unlike other swimming
pools with riff raff entering and you cannot enjoy quality time with family
Have concern about gym. Hours of operation.
I have not been to the pool because the last time I went it was too crowded, one could
not do even one lap
In terms of its operation, you should check out Hurstville Pool on a hot weekend. They
let too many people in and it is dirty and overcrowded.
It's a shame that it can't be used through winter
Please purchase a pool cleaner to clean the pool EVERYDAY!
Presumably the pool will not have segregated swimming, like some other pools do
have???
That the pool is used for swimming and not walking up and down. Exercise pool
should be used by walkers
There has been an increasing number of middle eastern women taking pre teen boys
into the female change rooms, disregarding the notice on the wall which prohibits
such action. Pool staff acknowledge this is unacceptable behaviour, but have failed to
take action
Hello
I have been coming to Bexley Pool for 20 years. We have all been told too many lies,
who do we trust now
I Have worked for the centre and know what needs to be done to give people what
they want and need
I live in the area
Is Council serious?
It's very disappointing, we have all been given the run around
My comment would be a summary of above points
As stated above, if the whole proposal does happen, the parking are needs to be a lot
bigger
Exiting the carpark has always been a nightmare. I permanently damaged my right
knee and ankle, dented my shin when I slipped on the temporary and dangerous
remedies to a sinking pool. No-one cared!! I was forced to move to Canterbury Pool
I was actually impressed by the changes specified by the council. HOWEVER, I was
appalled that the proposed changes to customer parking, which include removal of
natural vegetation and congestion along Preddys Lane, were not made public to
residents along Preddys, including myself. We had to find this out from a disgruntled
neighbour, and I was wondering when, if ever, you were planning on telling us of
these changes. This is not acceptable
Parking could be an issue backing onto Preddy's Road
The car park proposal (that seems to be missing) should go to the northern side of the
development where the canal is, not back of existing properties. Car park should be
relocated
The impact of the parking area which will impact my property at Preddys Road Bexley
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The proposed expenditure of over $1,000,000 for the car park situated near bushland
(accessed via Preddys Lane) which most likely not be utilised by envisaged/alleged
new clients (to proposed complex) should be used elsewhere.
Better off contributing to upgrading the parking at a nearby facility and consolidating
with them
An invaluable resource for all local schools
Being elderly I am unlikely to use these facilities. However I fully support this project
Bexley pool is a fantastic and much needed public facility, we regularly use it, my wife
and I and our children would be lost without it.
Currently member of Annette Kellerman Aquatic Centre in Marrickville but believe this
proposal will provide a far superior centre which I would be prepared to visit / join.
fantastic and much needed will be used more by the local schools all year round. can't
wait for it to be completed
Having not swum at the pool for awhile as the last time put me off - kids bombing my
while I was doing laps, it would be fantastic to have a pool and facilities to use. I live 5
mins walk away and will go to Sans Souci Leisure centre until its built
Having these facilities would allow me and my 3 children to use the pool in the winter
and not have to travel to Homebush - as we don't use Hurstville
I am in Bexley 2-3 times a week and would love to take advantage of the new
proposed facilities
I am more motivated to go to the proposed leisure centre than what it is currently
I am moving to the area and would like to use a facility like this often
I am not a resident but think it is an excellent idea. I live in the Sutherland area and I
use the facilities every week
I don't currently use the facility, as I find it is tired and old. If the plan goes ahead, I
would switch to this facility, as apposed to Hurstville Aquatic which my family uses
now. This has my full support.
I enjoy this frequently enough after work on the way home.
I have used existing pool regularly since it opened years ago. (some days only person
in the pool)
I hope that I can use it as I live in Harrow road, Bexley and travel by public transport
I hope the indoor facility goes ahead, as the schools in Earlwood are desperately
seeking an indoor pool facility closer to them and they don't like Col Jones
I live in the area and my kids and myself use it constantly
I live in the area, teach at Kogarah High School and know many of my students also
use the pool with their families.
I live on Canonbury Grove and have since 2001. I have never used the current pool
as I hate outdoor pools, so I drive to Hurstville Aquatics. I use them for my own fitness
and my two kids swimming lessons. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to have access to
these facilities within walking distance. And the proposal looks awesome.
I live only a couple of streets from the Bexley Pool BUT for the past 16 years I have
used the facilities at Hurstville Aquatic Centre as they are more appropriate to my
needs. My one concern is I’ll be in a nursing home before the Bexley Pool proposal is
completed
I look forward to enjoying the new facilities
I plan to move to the Bexley area in the near future and would certainly make use of
such a great proposed facility.
I support this application as my family have used the facilities for many years.
I think it is a fantastic idea and one the all members and age groups of our community
can use!
The updated facilities will encourage more patrons to the Pool.
The upgrade should ensure more people use the area. Please include a heated
indoor pool
There is no guarantee of increased patronage regardless what you do. I also use pool
(50m outdoor) at Canterbury and Roselands, but not other facilities. Best thing Bexley
can do to increase patronage is to open earlier in winter! 9am is too late.
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Praise
We use the pool mainly in summer.
We used to go to the Hurstville Aquatic Centre until parking issues (ie lack of available
parking) forced us to look for an alternative. Since finding Bexley Pool, we have
frequented and enjoyed its facilities and ample parking
Yes, not everyone can get to the beach so the pool is a near alternative. Also the
beach gets crowded. The beach area is becoming less of a place to swim when you
consider how much of the sand the sea has claimed. We need a pool - a cool place to
play and rest
I live in Earlwood and enjoy swimming at Bexley every week
I used to use the pool daily but got a bit lazy with my lapping but intend to restart. The
cost daily is a bit of an issue but maybe you could think of a season pass or multi-visit
pass which would encourage more use especially with families
An excellent proposal and money well spent. The small increase in annual cost to run
the new centre once it is fully developed is more than justified - many times over given the significant increase in amenity
Bexley pool is a wonderful community facility that our family enjoys. We are excited at
the prospect of even better facilities
Fantastic idea - fully support this. We need a local gym
Fantastic proposal!
Fantastic proposal.
Fantastic upgrade idea as so many people visit to enjoy the pool facilities
Fully supportive of this proposal
good idea
Good luck with the proposal, it looks fantastic
Great proposal
great work.. a new aquatic centre of this level is great
Great idea and love the proposed design
I am very proud of Rockdale Council for developing such a wonderful proposal which
will serve the community for many years to come. We, our children and our
grandchildren will thank you for it. Thank you Rockdale Council. Have a lovely
Christmas and prosperous new year.
I believe the proposal is amazing - building & investing in a healthy future. Rockdale
counsel would be applauded for it's vision & willingness to build state of the art
facilities & infrastructure. I believe the money is being well spent. I would certainly visit
the facility more often (and encourage many others), particularly when I retire in a
year or two.
I heartily endorse Council's plans concerning not only the Bexley Pool but Rockdale
Library, the Indoor Recreation Centre at Ador Reserve and the Town Centre at
Arncliffe & Youth Centre
I think it would be a great development and much better than the Penshurst/Hurstville
Aquatic Centre
Please build this Centre
Please have a look at Enmore Pool (Annette Kellerman) compare it with Sans Souci,
no comparison!! Council has the property, why not use it
Seems like a really innovative idea.
Sounds a comprehensive and necessary plan
sounds great!
Thank you for this opportunity
Thanks for your vision, Rockdale Council!
The area needs more recreation areas instead of over populated units with recreation
areas going amiss
The upgrade is a wonderful proposal - it would have the best facilities of any of the
surrounding councils. Swimming is a wonderful exercise and every child should learn
to swim at a very young age.
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This facility has provided endless hours of enjoyment to my family over the years, and
the current proposal would ensure an even greater level of enjoyment
This is a brilliant initiative!
This is a fabulous facility - cant wait (either can the kids!)
This is a great initiative. Let's hope it goes through for the local community.
This is amazing! Bexley North deserves to have a facility like this
This is great. Finally a decent swimming centre. The City needs one.
This plan is amazing, and surpasses any expectations I had for the possibilities for the
site. The combination of indoor and outdoor pools, and fitness/ leisure facilities will
increase my families usage of facility, and I'm sure will attract many more visitors from
the surrounding districts. I'm only disappointed we didn’t have it completed while our
children were younger. We have the chance to make Rockdale Council's one aquatic
facility the best in the region - so go for it!
THIS SOUNDS GR8 !
This will be one of the best leisure facilities in Australia if it is completed. The artists'
impressions look stunning.
This would be a fantastic facility to use. I hope this goes ahead
This would create a very professional facility for the local area. Much the same as the
new Enmore Aquatic centre.
Very happy and very supportive
We totally support the proposal
Well needed
Wonderful plan
Wonderful proposal - like Sutherland Leisure Centre - I would come from school to the
pool on my way home
Would really like to see it go through
Fantastic idea - need to have
Very excited
This proposal sounds like a great idea and we would definitely use this facility as
Hurstville is always overcrowded
About time !
As I do squads here 3 times a week, where do I go for squads as Bexley Pool isn't
available
ASAP as we enjoy having a pool to assist us with good health and well being and I'm
sure the Council will support this project
At age 75 I have enjoyed the use of Bexley Pool on a daily basis for many years and now
my children and grand children. For us the improvements can't come quick enough.
Brilliant plans. Please proceed as soon as possible. The 'shade' cover for outdoor
50m pool seating must be waterproof so people can still sit there if it rains.
Bring it on!!
Bring on the new development...it's amazing!
Build it and build it now. The area needs this
Build it asap
Build it!
Can't wait (looking forward to it)
Can't wait till it's built! Hurry up :)
Can't wait to see the new proposal and then sign up for the gym and get fit. It's about
time we see this taking place
Can't wait to use the new Centre
Do it quickly please. Great for the community.
Do not like the idea of pool being closed for 2 years. Happy with the way it is at
present
Excellent Proposal. We really hope it can get approved anytime soon. Good luck!
Fantastic idea! Make it happen! Hurstville swimming pool is far too busy and crowded
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Fantastic! Can't wait to use it when it's finished. Please make sure memberships are
affordable.
Get on with building it!
Get on with it
Hurry up and build it!
Hurry up!
I really love this. How much longer will it be before this happens? The Rockdale area
desperately needs a community facility like this.
It's about time that this issue actually be resolved by actually building the facility, for
the benefit of the community. More delay adds to the total cost, shifting burden into
new budgetary cycles [and perhaps different Councils] and causing hysteria re final
cost; to be endlessly delayed as project continues to be characterised as too
expensive by the naysayers. Just get it done and these arguments cannot continue to
fuel conservatives and those who remain focused solely on their own needs and
personal obvious lack of interest in a facility. This development WILL be of benefit of
entire community, whether individuals are personally and directly interested in
stepping inside its boundaries or not. Community spirit and responsibility towards
others requires that people think beyond their own personal interests. THAT is what I
want from my community. Build the new pool/s and facilities NOW.
Long overdue. Great design. Please build it soon.
Open it soon
Open soon please!
Please build this Centre NOW!
Please do not close the Centre as it is good for the community and schools around
Please hurry up!
Please open it soon
Please open it soon
Please upgrade it is long overdue.
please upgrade the pool as soon as possible!! thanks
Please, please, please push ahead with this proposal. It will make a big difference for
many in the local area and it is a worthwhile investment in the future.
project long over due. please go ahead with it and don't listen to the whinges ...
Really love this pool and would be sad to see it closed down. Having a creche would
significantly increase my number of visits per year!
Should have been built 10 years ago. Please do it!
Should have been completed years ago
Sooner the better
Speed it up. Don't spend years talking about something, get everyone excited and do
nothing. Take action and get on with it.
The pool is in such a lovely area, surrounded by trees which makes it so peaceful to
exercise. These proposals sound well over-due and will provide the area with fantastic
and much needed facilities!! Looking forward to it
the quicker it gets under way the better!!!!!!!
The sooner the better!
The upgrade of Bexley Pool has been 10 years overdue. The new proposal will
provide a healthy sporting facility for generations to use and enjoy
This has been an ongoing issue, so many times, so many petitions and so many
signatures people are starting to give up, because it has been promised so many
times
This has been desperately needed for a number of years and needs to happen
This has taken far too long to materialise. The volume of loss of water is a major
concern in this day and age. So please get on with it.
This has taken way too long. I have signed so many petitions through the years its
ridiculous. Can't people in Rockdale Council get there act together
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This is a great proposal - well overdue - will be used and loved by the whole
community - please please build it!
This is a long overdue proposal and will be a major long term asset to roc and
residents. As a frequent user of the current facility, I am looking forward to this
development
This is a long time coming. Thank you
This is a much needed facility. I wholeheartedly support the proposed facility.
This is a very important community project affecting many, many people. Please ACT!
This is long overdue
This is so needed to cater for the Bexley area as Hurstville is already over crowded
and not a well designed facility
Want to use new gym facilities asap!
We hope this great development will go ahead.
We need the pool to be redone urgently. Maybe to a slightly smaller scale.
We want the leisure centre opened fast!
We've used this pool often & would be deeply sad if it was closed
When will it start?
Where to take my kids for squads while it is under construction? We love coming to
this pool
Yes, this needs to be done asap
About time Rockdale had the same as Hurstville!!!
Brilliant!! Can't wait!
It is such a great proposal, we love it, please start ASAP! Hopefully you get some
zumba class going in there! Also, since you build new, what about use the latest
technology to make it eco-friendly (solar panels, etc)
This is long overdue!
As close neighbours we are concerned about the size of the development. We are
also especially concerned about the following:
1). possible use of Highgate street as a bus drop-off point. There is no room in Highgate
Street for this to occur. Highgate street and the SES carpark are congested as is. There
is no room for a bus to turn.
2). We are also proud of our park at the end of Highgate street. It is well used by the
local community, we would strongly disagree with this being turned into a carpark, bus
zone or utilised for any other purpose.
3).Traffic is an issue, swimming carnivals restrict local traffic at peak carnival times. I
experienced this when Kogarah Marist had a swimming carnival recently, taking me 15
minutes to travel along New Illawarra and Preddy's Road.
I hope there will be adequate parking and effective traffic management on Preddy's
Road. It is a narrow road with a hill so traffic could bank up. We don't want people
parking on the residential streets.
Please Please. Speed cameras or speed humps
The proposal will also increase traffic on Preddys Road again reducing the value of
our property making it more dangerous for our children and a noisy environment.
Traffic entering/exiting Preddys Road. Are there going to be traffic lights installed?
Traffic in Preddy's Lane, this is used by locals. What will the impact be?
Preddy's Road traffic is already an issue. Traffic flow has vastly increased since the
M5 was opened. It is a major shortcut and speed is a problem down the hills. Traffic
should be considered as a major issue at the entrance. Alternative entry to and fro
Am anxious of renovation
Bexley is a great pool and needs the upgrade
Bexley pool desperately needs upgrading, it has so much spare/vacant land lets put it
to good use!
Bexley pool has needed an upgrade for several years. The proposal looks and
sounds fantastic, just what the area needs!
Desperately need an upgrade!!!
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User Costs /
Needs
Year Round Use
Desperately needs an upgrade - its location would also take a lot of business away
from Hurstville Aquatic centre as a lot of people dont like not having an option
Great facility whose update is long overdue
I am 42 and have been going to Bexley Pools since I was a child, the pool facility has
had little to upgrade in all that time. My children go there now it is time to bring bexley
pools in par with other pool centres to make it even more attractive.
I believe this pool should be upgraded because it is a great asset of the Rockdale
area. More people would go if the pool was fixed. I am hoping the proposal gets
approved as I would use this pool more often
I currently work at the pool as a swimming teacher and have been there for 2 years. I
have noticed that the pool is in much need of improvement which would totally benefit
the community in my opinion.
I live around the corner from the pool and I totally support this. The pool is old and in
need of repair. I also teach at Danebank School which uses this pool every year for
their Swimming Carnivals and it will be amazing to hold it in these facilities.
I love Bexley Pool. Many great memories. Does need an upgrade though :-)
The centre needs refurbishment
This facility has been neglected and overlooked for a long time. I have seen a decline
in learn to swim, swim squads which have State and National level swimmers leave
and go elsewhere and a swim club, namely BSC, become non-existent. This proposal
has the potential to provide fun, fitness and most importantly the ability to produce Ian
Thorpes, Steph Rices of the future.
This is a desperately needed project and looks wonderfully exciting - please please
proceed with it - it will be greatly used by the community - everyone I speak to is
greatly in favour of it.
This pool has been used by many schools over many years. It deserves an upgrade.
Many more families over a wide area will be able to use the upgraded facilities. I can
understand the resident's objections surrounding the pool but you can't stop progress.
This upgrade is needed for the community and long overdue - the pool hasn’t
changed much since I was 8 which is 30 years ago.
Upgrade for the future will be much appreciated
Upgrading and maintaining the local pool is money well spent and continues an
institution. Provide more fitness options and more patrons will come year round.
Upgrading facilities would make it a better experience in order to get people to come
to the pool
We are a sporting nation. Our children need to swim and do sports. We will always
have to upgrade our pools. We live in Queensland and we use this pool regularly
when we are here with our family
We need the pool upgraded badly
We should not lose this pool complex, but improve it. Heated pool for winter use and
assisted access for disabled and elderly. It sounds good!!
With the population growing and property sizes shrinking, we need more pools
Yes, the pool is a great family venue, this needs updating/upgrading
Concerned also that the increase in facilities will see an increase in price for users.
Keeping family cost to a reasonable amount so that the next younger generation can
do well when it comes to world swimming events
Please keep costs competitive
There is already a large pool / leisure facility at Hurstville and Marrickville. I am
concerned that the entry of proposed new pool will increase as well to keep up costs
for all flashy extras, like a creche, extra gym, spa etc
An indoor 25m pool is needed in order to allow swimming in winter. Many patrons are
lost to other pools over the winter period and they don't all return in the summer!
Been hoping for upgrade to Bexley Swimming Centre for years. An indoor facility for
adults and children will make swimming feasible all year round.
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I am a casual lap swimmer and resident of Kogarah. I normally swim Sept-April but
with proposed indoor pool could swim all year round. You will attract more people
from other Council areas. Can't wait!!
I am currently in squads and it would be a great improvement if I could swim in the
winter
I love swimming in summer but it is too cold in winter to swim outdoors. An indoor
swimming pool would be great.
Since I only want a pool open year round, an indoor and outdoor pool is all I require. I
understand this may not be economically viable without all the other facilities listed
above.
Summer usage more at present. If indoor - winter usage
This will give me the opportunity to swim during the whole year instead of October to
April.
Welcome all year round facility Would only use spa, sauna, steam if kept very clean
Would never use creche or party room Would only use gym if properly outfitted and
supervised
Would love a warmer pool for the kiddies (Hurstville is awful and overcrowded). Would
love to come here more often but can't on wet weather days. Hope it goes ahead
We would like a new swimming pool indoors because you can use the pool all year
round, summer, winter, autumn and spring
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