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Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Everything. As It Happens. Penis Mightier Than The Sword Bodger at 10:06 am June 12, 2015 http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 1 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Page 2 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Page 3 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM NCAD student Shane Berkery, above, and a nude diptych he created of himself and the director of the National College of Art and Design, Professor Declan McGonagle http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 4 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Joe Humphries, in the Irish Times, reports: “The National College of Art and Design (NCAD) has rejected claims of censorship after a student withdrew an image depicting its director, Prof Declan McGonagle, in the nude from an end-of-term exhibition.” “NCAD confirmed that management representatives met the student last Monday and advised him “about both the appropriateness of showing the image in the college and the responsibilities that come with making the image public”. However, in a statement, NCAD said it did not order the student to withdraw the painting.” Saying the diptych – of himself and Mr McGonagle both nude – was made in protest against the way the college is run, Shane told the Irish Times: “I painted Declan because I was not happy with the college, and I painted myself as an equal. So I was putting myself through the same thing. I don’t want to ridicule Declan. I don’t want to bully him or anything.” “I was very pressured. They kept saying I needed to think about the consequences. So I said, okay, it’s definitely going to be more trouble than it’s worth – so take it down and put a different one up. “It’s not particularly offensive. The whole point of doing art is doing that kind of stuff and creating a dialogue.” NCAD rejects censor claim over withdrawal of nude from show (Irish Times) http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 5 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Previously: Supporting The NCAD Students Pics: Shane Berkery Share 1 Like Share 65 Tweet 8 Related Posts: Car Crash At Thomas Street Have You Heard NCAD Girl? Meanwhile, At NCAD The Worth Of Your NCAD Degree Posted in Misc and tagged NCAD, nude diptych, Shane Berkery at 10:06 am on June 12, 2015 [http://www.broad‐ sheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/] by Bodger. 73 thoughts on “Penis Mightier Than The Sword” JimmytheHead June 12, 2015 at 10:10 am wow, talented bloke. great work shane and keep the head help high! manolo June 12, 2015 at 10:15 am http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 6 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Certainly contentious and easy for people to take one side or the other. But art should be entitled to cause uproar without censorship. Starina June 12, 2015 at 10:15 am great pieces. And the artist is totally right to say “The whole point of doing art is doing that kind of stuff and creating a dialogue.” But Broadsheet, NSFW, for god’s sake. Spaghetti Hoop June 12, 2015 at 10:19 am Too much willy in the morning. Joe the Lion June 12, 2015 at 1:41 pm I didn’t know there was a maximum upper limit manolo June 12, 2015 at 10:21 am Here is a genuine question: If it was a picture of Michelangelo’s David, would you think it also needed a NSFW tag? http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 7 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Kate June 12, 2015 at 10:35 am I don’t think a pic of Michelangelo’s David would need a NSFW tag as most would be famil‐ iar with this piece. Passing colleagues would recognise it as art. However the same cannot be said for this painting popping up on your screen. A NSFW tag isn’t saying it’s porn.. just saying you might not want it on your screen in a work environment. Starina June 12, 2015 at 11:07 am It’s a great question but I agree with Kate’s answer! doncolleone June 12, 2015 at 11:50 am NSFW really? what are you 12? donkey_kong June 12, 2015 at 10:17 am i’m not sure I agree – he didn’t use a volunteer but somebody he knew without their permis‐ sion. Also this person isn’t in the public eye so people may believe it is him (as in he posed for it) So he didn’t mean to bully him won’t wash with me . the artist is talented but a dick nonetheless. http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 8 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Just sayin' June 12, 2015 at 10:20 am That’s hugely offensive. Yeah, freedom of artistic expression is good but with freedom comes responsibility. It must be incredibly embarrassing to him family. Seems like a cheap shock thrill from an undergrad student. I wonder if it would be deemed acceptable if the head of the NCAD was a woman? Mani June 12, 2015 at 11:17 am Of course not. Women should never be given that kind of responsibility. It gives them nose‐ bleeds. ahjayzis June 12, 2015 at 12:03 pm You’d need to find a woman with a creative mind though, so I guess a transgender woman? And that opens up a whole other can of worms. Frilly Keane June 12, 2015 at 3:19 pm Back t’your telephone voice huh Drogg June 12, 2015 at 10:24 am http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 9 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM I think we really need to look at a how a national art college is run, if they are afraid of a few nudes. These are great pieces of work and the artist spoke very well about his reason be‐ hind these paintings. Shame on you NCAD. doncolleone June 12, 2015 at 11:53 am “I think we really need to look at a how a national art college is run, if they are afraid of a few nudes. ” exactly this, laughable really; shows them for the small minded petty bourgeois they are, a degree from this place must be worth sweet FA it this is their “ethos”. Drogg June 12, 2015 at 11:58 am This is the current argument from their alumni, that the drop in standard from NCAD is ef‐ fecting all their qualifications. Clampers Outside! June 12, 2015 at 10:30 am Meh Nibbers June 12, 2015 at 11:25 am C’mon Clampers, it’s really good art! http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 10 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM +1 June 12, 2015 at 1:36 pm Advertising clearly his calling. One dimensional , hardly art. St. John Smythe June 12, 2015 at 10:24 pm +111111111111 fosull June 12, 2015 at 10:32 am An attention-seeking stunt and little more. The quality of the art is neither here nor there – he deliberately and provocatively painted a nude of someone he dislikes without their permission with the sole intention of embarrassing them and drawing attention to himself. Fight for your cause on the merits of your argument, not by trying to embarrass people. Un‐ less you haven’t a strong enough argument in the first place, maybe…? java June 12, 2015 at 11:03 am +10000 jeremy kyle http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 11 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM June 12, 2015 at 1:23 pm It’s all about marketing. Joe the Lion June 12, 2015 at 1:43 pm A cunning stunt nonetheless Owen June 12, 2015 at 3:43 pm “The quality of the art is neither here nor there” is the dumbest thing I have read on here. Is the fact we are discussing it not justifying its interest? The mona lisa is average at best, but you know what it is. And is art not meant to seek attention in some manner? I think the physical art is not the art we are looking at. This piece is the fact we are talking about it. NCAD should be embarrassed, and he should have stood his ground. scottser June 12, 2015 at 4:59 pm that’s about the size of it. it would be a bit of a farce if all you learned about art during your time in art school was how to get censored. http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 12 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM ReproBertie June 12, 2015 at 10:35 am Either he’s lost a lot of weight or he sees himself as much heavier than he actually is. Der June 12, 2015 at 11:55 am I was thinking the same. Edwardszszs June 12, 2015 at 10:37 am The paintings are crap and the sentiment behind the painting is crap. “Ooh I was annoyed at the director so I painted him in the nude but it’s not bullying it’s not bullying”. It actually is. Painting his own head on the same body was pure damage control. Frilly Keane June 12, 2015 at 10:42 am As ye all know I’ve not a hair of artistic temperament on me And tbf I wouldn’t have them in my good room A bit too ‘I am all man’ about them for me But Isn’t this exactly what NCAD and the Arty crowd should be applauding and lauding and http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 13 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM bula bos’ing? Ultach June 12, 2015 at 10:49 am Not much hair on the subjects either, below the neckline that is. Eamonn Clancy June 12, 2015 at 10:48 am How would he like it if someone cut and pasted his head into a photo graph of him engaged in, let’s say, peadophilia? Would he like that censored? Starina June 12, 2015 at 11:08 am well then the question would be where he got the photo of illegal pornography. So that’s not a equivalent comparison. Tucker Done June 12, 2015 at 11:11 am He probably wouldn’t like that. What’s your point? Mani June 12, 2015 at 11:19 am http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 14 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM If that’s your defence, Eamonn, I’d fire my solicitor if I were you. Spaghetti Hoop June 12, 2015 at 11:20 am Ha!! Domestos June 12, 2015 at 2:01 pm lol dereviled June 12, 2015 at 10:48 am A thousand words? dereviled June 12, 2015 at 3:46 pm Well done him! (Hope he passes) Clampers Outside! June 12, 2015 at 10:50 am Art for shocks sake, nothing more. http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 15 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM As someone above said it’s ‘attention seeking’ dressed up as freedom of expression. Total bull. Joe the Lion June 12, 2015 at 2:07 pm Cockerel I’d say – Gavin June 12, 2015 at 10:55 am This and its recent restructuring of its financial model seems to single the death throws of Dublins one serious fine art college Anomanomanom June 12, 2015 at 11:48 am You seriously don’t know the college if your using the words fine art to describe it. This is a college who’s student SHIT in his own hand and drew a picture with it and that’s not heresay I 100% fact know it happened, Maybe I just don’t get fine art. Gavin June 12, 2015 at 12:05 pm Every fine art college has them, cop on and stop being such sensationalist drama queen. http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 16 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Anomanomanom June 12, 2015 at 3:07 pm Me a drama Queen… Well i never * slams door, walks out* Vote Rep #1 June 12, 2015 at 12:28 pm You do realise that more disciplines than just fine art gets thought in NCAD? Was the person who did the poo art part of the Fine Art faculty or a different faculty? St. John Smythe June 12, 2015 at 10:26 pm They only have one student?! No wonder they are in such a financial mess! GingerMcNinja June 12, 2015 at 10:58 am GingerMcNinja June 12, 2015 at 10:59 am I think this sums up my feelings here pretty well: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/cd/65/30/cd653068‐ dac27d3107ab60ec9617e93a.jpg http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 17 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM 15 cents June 12, 2015 at 11:06 am it would be grand if there was more meaning to it. its not making a point. theres no concept. weeeelllllllll June 12, 2015 at 1:23 pm He presents himself, student artist, and the director of the college in a diptych as literally ex‐ posed equals at a time when there is massive unrest between the college management and the students over the provision of services and the entire remit of the college. Yeah – no concept there at all. must try harder St. John Smythe June 12, 2015 at 10:27 pm if that is your idea of a presentable graduation conceptthen you need to go back to first year core. Kevin Finnerty June 12, 2015 at 5:11 pm That’s why da vinci was poo, he had no ‘concept’ in his paintings. This is really good work: relevant, provocative and well-executed. http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 18 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Mr. T. June 12, 2015 at 11:25 am It’s hilarious people giving out about NSFW. You should be working you minions. Spaghetti Hoop June 12, 2015 at 11:38 am I’m working my minions as hard as I can, thanks. Anomanomanom June 12, 2015 at 11:45 am NCAD… What a bunch of bloody wasters. Jones June 12, 2015 at 12:52 pm Bang o’ weed Paolo June 12, 2015 at 12:27 pm So it is ok to humiliate someone as long as you call it art? http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 19 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM Nigel June 12, 2015 at 12:41 pm It’s only okay to humiliate people if you call it austerity. weeeelllllllll June 12, 2015 at 1:18 pm Someone who considers that image humiliating has no business running an art college timble June 12, 2015 at 12:32 pm The important thing is that he painted his willy bigger than the Director’s. Definetly not equal Ultach June 12, 2015 at 12:34 pm Also, he can’t draw feet. Kevin Finnerty June 12, 2015 at 5:19 pm if you actually knew anything, you’d see that the artist is referencing Francis Bacon aaaaaaaaand scene June 12, 2015 at 1:16 pm http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 20 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM INT. DIRECTOR OF NCAD’s OFFICE Helen Lovejoy bursts through the door clutching her pearls – Sir! Sir! one of the students has painted a nude man with your head and is going to dis‐ play it next to a similar portrait of himself at the graduate exhibition! The Director looks up at Helen. – Yes? [a beat] – And? [another beat] Helen looks uncomfortable at her shoes. – We’re a damn art college. What the f*** do you expect? -FINthis scene has been brought to you by a world that makes sense Lilly June 12, 2015 at 2:16 pm + 1 What kind of art college director would be embarrassed by being depicted nude. Ultach June 12, 2015 at 2:50 pm More to the point, where is Helen Lovejoy’s picture?! Eric T http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 21 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM June 12, 2015 at 2:58 pm Rule 34 usually tends to that in this context. Michael June 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm I don’t care about the controversy. I’m indifferent to the art and the artist’s intention, whatev‐ er merits there may be. But jaysus, that headline is a fupping masterpiece! Rose June 14, 2015 at 8:06 am D Faaqzaa Aaaaah ZzÀàa3!;#}}£{aa Ma hasselvlad June 17, 2015 at 9:26 pm In order to best understand this work – look at it under form, content and context. The form is diptych (two related paintings presented as one work) giving it an interchangeability – the paintings may be presented with different emphasis – swopping left with right, hanging on opposite walls, in close or distant proximity to each other, etc. These options may present http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 22 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM the work with different emphasis. The content is two nude male figures with stripped beach mats or towels. The context is how the elements relate to each other – e.g. the figures are standing in front of the stripped mats. All of this tells us these two chaps have probably been sunbathing, and now appear ready to engage in some kind of activity – probably skin‐ ny-dipping. In summary – the paintings are benign. There is no sense of violation of either individual and only a very insecure person would take offence. However these paintings have acquired another quality – notoriety. This is the result of a botched censorship action, which drew attention to the work in the first place. If the interfering managers in NCAD had turned their attention to resolving the college’s financial difficulties instead of bullying this student, you would probably never have seen or heard of this artwork. Jack June 20, 2015 at 2:33 am I agree and echo many of the comments above, in that this was a failed attempt at provoca‐ tion and a stunt – a childish one at that. Surprised he didn’t draw stink lines and pass it round the class…. To be honest I’m fed up at this stage, I’m done and pissed off with all the stuff going on and now around the exhibitions. I agreed with some of the points at the start, and was curious to how it would be resolved, but it keeps getting more pathetic and immature – with all this painting stuff last week too. Like what the hell was the initial plan here?? And where were the tutors when all this painting stuff was goin on? How could a tutor allow this? Also to say he was pressured is bull – If he stood by his work and was strong in his convic‐ tions, he would’ve kept the piece up. That’s a true artist. IT WAS THE STUDENT’S CHOICE. The college advised, he decided. We all the know the craic in the college, but anyone outside of the college will think we all agree. I’m tired of being mis-represented everywhere. If someone has a valid argument then http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 23 of 24 Penis Mightier Than The Sword | Broadsheet.ie 7/2/15, 11:16 AM you wouldn’t need to resort to nude portraits. Jack June 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm I agree and echo many of the comments above, in that this was a failed attempt at provoca‐ tion and a stunt – a childish one at that. Surprised he didn’t draw stink lines and pass it round the class…. To be honest I’m fed up at this stage, I’m done and pissed off with all the stuff going on and now around the exhibitions. I agreed with some of the points at the start, and was curious to how it would be resolved, but it keeps getting more pathetic and immature – with all this painting stuff last week too. Like what the hell was the initial plan here?? And where were the tutors when all this painting stuff was goin on? How could a tutor allow this? Also to say he was pressured is bull – If he stood by his work and was strong in his convic‐ tions, he would’ve kept the piece up. That’s a true artist. IT WAS THE STUDENT’S CHOICE. The college advised, he decided. We all the know the craic in the college, but anyone outside of the college will think we all agree. I’m tired of being mis-represented everywhere. If someone has a valid argument then you wouldn’t need to resort to nude portraits. Comments are closed. http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/06/12/meanwhile-at-ncad-2/ Page 24 of 24