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Everything. As It Happens.
Penis Mightier Than The Sword
Bodger at 10:06 am June 12, 2015
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NCAD student Shane Berkery, above, and a nude diptych he created of himself and
the director of the National College of Art and Design, Professor Declan McGonagle
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Joe Humphries, in the Irish Times, reports:
“The National College of Art and Design (NCAD) has rejected claims of censorship after a student withdrew an image depicting its director, Prof Declan McGonagle, in
the nude from an end-of-term exhibition.”
“NCAD confirmed that management representatives met the student last Monday
and advised him “about both the appropriateness of showing the image in the college
and the responsibilities that come with making the image public”. However, in a
statement, NCAD said it did not order the student to withdraw the painting.”
Saying the diptych – of himself and Mr McGonagle both nude – was made in protest
against the way the college is run, Shane told the Irish Times:
“I painted Declan because I was not happy with the college, and I painted myself as
an equal. So I was putting myself through the same thing. I don’t want to ridicule Declan. I don’t want to bully him or anything.”
“I was very pressured. They kept saying I needed to think about the consequences. So
I said, okay, it’s definitely going to be more trouble than it’s worth – so take it down
and put a different one up.
“It’s not particularly offensive. The whole point of doing art is doing that kind of stuff
and creating a dialogue.”
NCAD rejects censor claim over withdrawal of nude from show (Irish Times)
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73 thoughts on “Penis Mightier Than The Sword”
JimmytheHead
June 12, 2015 at 10:10 am
wow, talented bloke. great work shane and keep the head help high!
manolo
June 12, 2015 at 10:15 am
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Certainly contentious and easy for people to take one side or the other. But art should be
entitled to cause uproar without censorship.
Starina
June 12, 2015 at 10:15 am
great pieces. And the artist is totally right to say “The whole point of doing art is doing that
kind of stuff and creating a dialogue.”
But Broadsheet, NSFW, for god’s sake.
Spaghetti Hoop
June 12, 2015 at 10:19 am
Too much willy in the morning.
Joe the Lion
June 12, 2015 at 1:41 pm
I didn’t know there was a maximum upper limit
manolo
June 12, 2015 at 10:21 am
Here is a genuine question: If it was a picture of Michelangelo’s David, would you think it
also needed a NSFW tag?
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Kate
June 12, 2015 at 10:35 am
I don’t think a pic of Michelangelo’s David would need a NSFW tag as most would be famil‐
iar with this piece. Passing colleagues would recognise it as art. However the same cannot
be said for this painting popping up on your screen. A NSFW tag isn’t saying it’s porn.. just
saying you might not want it on your screen in a work environment.
Starina
June 12, 2015 at 11:07 am
It’s a great question but I agree with Kate’s answer!
doncolleone
June 12, 2015 at 11:50 am
NSFW really? what are you 12?
donkey_kong
June 12, 2015 at 10:17 am
i’m not sure I agree – he didn’t use a volunteer but somebody he knew without their permis‐
sion.
Also this person isn’t in the public eye so people may believe it is him (as in he posed for it)
So he didn’t mean to bully him won’t wash with me .
the artist is talented but a dick nonetheless.
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Just sayin'
June 12, 2015 at 10:20 am
That’s hugely offensive. Yeah, freedom of artistic expression is good but with freedom
comes responsibility. It must be incredibly embarrassing to him family. Seems like a cheap
shock thrill from an undergrad student.
I wonder if it would be deemed acceptable if the head of the NCAD was a woman?
Mani
June 12, 2015 at 11:17 am
Of course not. Women should never be given that kind of responsibility. It gives them nose‐
bleeds.
ahjayzis
June 12, 2015 at 12:03 pm
You’d need to find a woman with a creative mind though, so I guess a transgender woman?
And that opens up a whole other can of worms.
Frilly Keane
June 12, 2015 at 3:19 pm
Back t’your telephone voice huh
Drogg
June 12, 2015 at 10:24 am
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I think we really need to look at a how a national art college is run, if they are afraid of a few
nudes. These are great pieces of work and the artist spoke very well about his reason be‐
hind these paintings. Shame on you NCAD.
doncolleone
June 12, 2015 at 11:53 am
“I think we really need to look at a how a national art college is run, if they are afraid of a few
nudes. ” exactly this, laughable really; shows them for the small minded petty bourgeois
they are, a degree from this place must be worth sweet FA it this is their “ethos”.
Drogg
June 12, 2015 at 11:58 am
This is the current argument from their alumni, that the drop in standard from NCAD is ef‐
fecting all their qualifications.
Clampers Outside!
June 12, 2015 at 10:30 am
Meh
Nibbers
June 12, 2015 at 11:25 am
C’mon Clampers, it’s really good art!
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+1
June 12, 2015 at 1:36 pm
Advertising clearly his calling. One dimensional , hardly art.
St. John Smythe
June 12, 2015 at 10:24 pm
+111111111111
fosull
June 12, 2015 at 10:32 am
An attention-seeking stunt and little more.
The quality of the art is neither here nor there – he deliberately and provocatively painted a
nude of someone he dislikes without their permission with the sole intention of embarrassing
them and drawing attention to himself.
Fight for your cause on the merits of your argument, not by trying to embarrass people. Un‐
less you haven’t a strong enough argument in the first place, maybe…?
java
June 12, 2015 at 11:03 am
+10000
jeremy kyle
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June 12, 2015 at 1:23 pm
It’s all about marketing.
Joe the Lion
June 12, 2015 at 1:43 pm
A cunning stunt nonetheless
Owen
June 12, 2015 at 3:43 pm
“The quality of the art is neither here nor there” is the dumbest thing I have read on here. Is
the fact we are discussing it not justifying its interest? The mona lisa is average at best, but
you know what it is.
And is art not meant to seek attention in some manner?
I think the physical art is not the art we are looking at. This piece is the fact we are talking
about it. NCAD should be embarrassed, and he should have stood his ground.
scottser
June 12, 2015 at 4:59 pm
that’s about the size of it. it would be a bit of a farce if all you learned about art during your
time in art school was how to get censored.
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ReproBertie
June 12, 2015 at 10:35 am
Either he’s lost a lot of weight or he sees himself as much heavier than he actually is.
Der
June 12, 2015 at 11:55 am
I was thinking the same.
Edwardszszs
June 12, 2015 at 10:37 am
The paintings are crap and the sentiment behind the painting is crap. “Ooh I was annoyed
at the director so I painted him in the nude but it’s not bullying it’s not bullying”. It actually is.
Painting his own head on the same body was pure damage control.
Frilly Keane
June 12, 2015 at 10:42 am
As ye all know
I’ve not a hair of artistic temperament on me
And tbf I wouldn’t have them in my good room
A bit too ‘I am all man’ about them for me
But
Isn’t this exactly what NCAD and the Arty crowd should be applauding and lauding and
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bula bos’ing?
Ultach
June 12, 2015 at 10:49 am
Not much hair on the subjects either, below the neckline that is.
Eamonn Clancy
June 12, 2015 at 10:48 am
How would he like it if someone cut and pasted his head into a photo graph of him engaged
in, let’s say, peadophilia? Would he like that censored?
Starina
June 12, 2015 at 11:08 am
well then the question would be where he got the photo of illegal pornography. So that’s not
a equivalent comparison.
Tucker Done
June 12, 2015 at 11:11 am
He probably wouldn’t like that. What’s your point?
Mani
June 12, 2015 at 11:19 am
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If that’s your defence, Eamonn, I’d fire my solicitor if I were you.
Spaghetti Hoop
June 12, 2015 at 11:20 am
Ha!!
Domestos
June 12, 2015 at 2:01 pm
lol
dereviled
June 12, 2015 at 10:48 am
A thousand words?
dereviled
June 12, 2015 at 3:46 pm
Well done him!
(Hope he passes)
Clampers Outside!
June 12, 2015 at 10:50 am
Art for shocks sake, nothing more.
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As someone above said it’s ‘attention seeking’ dressed up as freedom of expression. Total
bull.
Joe the Lion
June 12, 2015 at 2:07 pm
Cockerel I’d say –
Gavin
June 12, 2015 at 10:55 am
This and its recent restructuring of its financial model seems to single the death throws of
Dublins one serious fine art college
Anomanomanom
June 12, 2015 at 11:48 am
You seriously don’t know the college if your using the words fine art to describe it. This is a
college who’s student SHIT in his own hand and drew a picture with it and that’s not heresay
I 100% fact know it happened, Maybe I just don’t get fine art.
Gavin
June 12, 2015 at 12:05 pm
Every fine art college has them, cop on and stop being such sensationalist drama queen.
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Anomanomanom
June 12, 2015 at 3:07 pm
Me a drama Queen… Well i never * slams door, walks out*
Vote Rep #1
June 12, 2015 at 12:28 pm
You do realise that more disciplines than just fine art gets thought in NCAD? Was the person
who did the poo art part of the Fine Art faculty or a different faculty?
St. John Smythe
June 12, 2015 at 10:26 pm
They only have one student?! No wonder they are in such a financial mess!
GingerMcNinja
June 12, 2015 at 10:58 am
GingerMcNinja
June 12, 2015 at 10:59 am
I think this sums up my feelings here pretty well:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/cd/65/30/cd653068‐
dac27d3107ab60ec9617e93a.jpg
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15 cents
June 12, 2015 at 11:06 am
it would be grand if there was more meaning to it. its not making a point. theres no concept.
weeeelllllllll
June 12, 2015 at 1:23 pm
He presents himself, student artist, and the director of the college in a diptych as literally ex‐
posed equals at a time when there is massive unrest between the college management and
the students over the provision of services and the entire remit of the college.
Yeah – no concept there at all.
must try harder
St. John Smythe
June 12, 2015 at 10:27 pm
if that is your idea of a presentable graduation conceptthen you need to go back to first year
core.
Kevin Finnerty
June 12, 2015 at 5:11 pm
That’s why da vinci was poo, he had no ‘concept’ in his paintings.
This is really good work: relevant, provocative and well-executed.
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Mr. T.
June 12, 2015 at 11:25 am
It’s hilarious people giving out about NSFW.
You should be working you minions.
Spaghetti Hoop
June 12, 2015 at 11:38 am
I’m working my minions as hard as I can, thanks.
Anomanomanom
June 12, 2015 at 11:45 am
NCAD… What a bunch of bloody wasters.
Jones
June 12, 2015 at 12:52 pm
Bang o’ weed
Paolo
June 12, 2015 at 12:27 pm
So it is ok to humiliate someone as long as you call it art?
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Nigel
June 12, 2015 at 12:41 pm
It’s only okay to humiliate people if you call it austerity.
weeeelllllllll
June 12, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Someone who considers that image humiliating has no business running an art college
timble
June 12, 2015 at 12:32 pm
The important thing is that he painted his willy bigger than the Director’s. Definetly not equal
Ultach
June 12, 2015 at 12:34 pm
Also, he can’t draw feet.
Kevin Finnerty
June 12, 2015 at 5:19 pm
if you actually knew anything, you’d see that the artist is referencing Francis Bacon
aaaaaaaaand scene
June 12, 2015 at 1:16 pm
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INT. DIRECTOR OF NCAD’s OFFICE
Helen Lovejoy bursts through the door clutching her pearls
– Sir! Sir! one of the students has painted a nude man with your head and is going to dis‐
play it next to a similar portrait of himself at the graduate exhibition!
The Director looks up at Helen.
– Yes?
[a beat]
– And?
[another beat] Helen looks uncomfortable at her shoes.
– We’re a damn art college. What the f*** do you expect?
-FINthis scene has been brought to you by a world that makes sense
Lilly
June 12, 2015 at 2:16 pm
+ 1 What kind of art college director would be embarrassed by being depicted nude.
Ultach
June 12, 2015 at 2:50 pm
More to the point, where is Helen Lovejoy’s picture?!
Eric T
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June 12, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Rule 34 usually tends to that in this context.
Michael
June 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm
I don’t care about the controversy. I’m indifferent to the art and the artist’s intention, whatev‐
er merits there may be.
But jaysus, that headline is a fupping masterpiece!
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June 14, 2015 at 8:06 am
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hasselvlad
June 17, 2015 at 9:26 pm
In order to best understand this work – look at it under form, content and context. The form
is diptych (two related paintings presented as one work) giving it an interchangeability – the
paintings may be presented with different emphasis – swopping left with right, hanging on
opposite walls, in close or distant proximity to each other, etc. These options may present
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the work with different emphasis. The content is two nude male figures with stripped beach
mats or towels. The context is how the elements relate to each other – e.g. the figures are
standing in front of the stripped mats. All of this tells us these two chaps have probably
been sunbathing, and now appear ready to engage in some kind of activity – probably skin‐
ny-dipping. In summary – the paintings are benign. There is no sense of violation of either
individual and only a very insecure person would take offence. However these paintings
have acquired another quality – notoriety. This is the result of a botched censorship action,
which drew attention to the work in the first place. If the interfering managers in NCAD had
turned their attention to resolving the college’s financial difficulties instead of bullying this
student, you would probably never have seen or heard of this artwork.
Jack
June 20, 2015 at 2:33 am
I agree and echo many of the comments above, in that this was a failed attempt at provoca‐
tion and a stunt – a childish one at that. Surprised he didn’t draw stink lines and pass it
round the class….
To be honest I’m fed up at this stage, I’m done and pissed off with all the stuff going on and
now around the exhibitions. I agreed with some of the points at the start, and was curious to
how it would be resolved, but it keeps getting more pathetic and immature – with all this
painting stuff last week too. Like what the hell was the initial plan here?? And where were the
tutors when all this painting stuff was goin on? How could a tutor allow this?
Also to say he was pressured is bull – If he stood by his work and was strong in his convic‐
tions, he would’ve kept the piece up. That’s a true artist. IT WAS THE STUDENT’S CHOICE.
The college advised, he decided.
We all the know the craic in the college, but anyone outside of the college will think we all
agree. I’m tired of being mis-represented everywhere. If someone has a valid argument then
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you wouldn’t need to resort to nude portraits.
Jack
June 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm
I agree and echo many of the comments above, in that this was a failed attempt at provoca‐
tion and a stunt – a childish one at that. Surprised he didn’t draw stink lines and pass it
round the class….
To be honest I’m fed up at this stage, I’m done and pissed off with all the stuff going on and
now around the exhibitions. I agreed with some of the points at the start, and was curious to
how it would be resolved, but it keeps getting more pathetic and immature – with all this
painting stuff last week too. Like what the hell was the initial plan here?? And where were the
tutors when all this painting stuff was goin on? How could a tutor allow this?
Also to say he was pressured is bull – If he stood by his work and was strong in his convic‐
tions, he would’ve kept the piece up. That’s a true artist. IT WAS THE STUDENT’S CHOICE.
The college advised, he decided.
We all the know the craic in the college, but anyone outside of the college will think we all
agree. I’m tired of being mis-represented everywhere. If someone has a valid argument then
you wouldn’t need to resort to nude portraits.
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