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BLKXR4
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 12:26 pm
Hey all,
Just a quick question to ask if anyone know of Milltek exhaust sytems.
There is a company in Sydney that has Milltek exhausts (full systems) for the XR4.
The read up is as follows:
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FULL SYSTEM (INCLUDING HI-FLOW SPORTS CAT)
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Consists of:
Tailpipe Style
4-1 Race Manifold
Flexible Pipe
Hi-Flow Sports Catalyst
Connecting Pipe
Rear Silencer Single 90mm Jet
Pipe Diameter: 2.36" (60.00mm)
Using only a Milltek Sport cat-back system, 4-2-1 Manifold, Sports Cat Link Pipe and an induction kit, our Ford Specialist Pumaspeed gained a massive
21bhp - bringing the 150bhp standard Fiesta ST to 171bhp!
The Milltek is also lighter - the original system weighs in at 21.75kg and the Milltek at 15.95kg.
http://fordfiestaxr4.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=406 (1 of 72)31/10/2010 12:08:55 PM
The company that sells them in sydeny is http://www.eurocardriver.com.au
They are a direct importer
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outlawha
sound good but what are they worth big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$4 i hear
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MR-XR4
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he who dies withthe most toys wins
I think the dealer is in Thornleigh. And they charge an arm an a leg. Militek system is pretty much top of the line as they are purposly built for the cars
(tried and tested) in all honesty the gains are great, but i would spend the money wisely.
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BLKXR4
Just got of the phone it is $3500, for the whole system, and it sounds like they are a weapon of a system..
if we can get 6 people together, we will get a better deal..
I am tempted to get one, the sound is tops, and performace its second to none..
the company i am dealing with is in north ryde and is a master importer..
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MR-XR4
it would be installed at peak performace in parramatta
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I hope you said to him " Go and fuck your self" 3.5g is beyond realistic. Does it come with a free toaster too? Is it made of gold?
The most i would pay for a milltek system is $1800 and that is stretching the wallet.
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Milltek = AWESOME GAINS
Milltek full system = VOID ENGINE WARRANTY
Milltek = be careful, and thoughtful, even the cat back system offers gains and shouldnt affect warranty. Also the standard full milltek system replaces the
cat pipe all together which immediately makes it illegal (emmisions) and will cause the engine light to be on constantly due to one or two sensors not
being used.
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BLKXR4
Mods done - Supercat Rear box, blacked out rear bumper section
Mods to come - Eibachs, ST Shifter, Custom plates, Blacked out front bumper sections
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thats half correct.. the system i want still has a sports cat so does not void waranty... i rang ford.
There as the light wont come on..
if u get the system that has not catback.. then ur stuffed, but im getting the one that does.. if u go to the milltek system, im getting the full system but
with cat.. dont wanna be illegal
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BLKXR4
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how would u get it for $1800?
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BLKXR4
buy it in pieces through euro parts i spose..
or go to hiteck
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BLKXR4
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http://www.millteksport.com/exhaust.products.cfm?variantid=171
im after number 6- its legal is Aus, no warranty hassals and no lights come on..
what u recon?
i also just went to euro parts.net and if you add all of it up, plus shipping, its the same cost..
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MR-XR4
hmmm im in a pickle
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Number 6 is perfect so was 3.5g for this??
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BLKXR4
yeah $3500..
lota money, but the guy who i spoke to was really informative and they do sound like a good product..
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outlawha
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I would lok at their claim there is no way you will get that increase just from changing the exhurst
got an idea for you offer $100 for every 1 bhp difference it makes so if does what they claim you will be out of pocket $3000 and i bet they wont go for it
these guys have never been any thing but haslle your call its your money
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BLKXR4
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who have not been anything but hassle? have you dealt with them?
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step 4
outlawha
and you will find light will come on after step 4
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BLKXR4
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number 6 does not have number 4, its a diffrent product.. thats the benifit of number 6
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surgetsion
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I surgest you read our sister site about exhurst
then i surgest you read the euro sites about exhurst
then i surgest you stop listerning to the milteck rep
but your call
did he mention
did he mention
did he mention
did he mention
air box mods
the ecu mods
the need for back pressure
the light issue people are still complining about on othe models that they said would and didnt happen
your money your call
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BLKXR4
ah righto, i get ya, so u have seen feedback from other ppl..
thanks mate..
that makes me ask though, if i get my exhaust through hitech, i wonder if the light would come on there?
Thanks for your help..
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Ives
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Matt, wat happened with the plan with Hitech?
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outlawha
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not feedback years of experience
and dont forget with traction control switched on in a almost standard xr4 you will be no quicker of the line
and with traction control switched off you will smoke the tyres and get beaten by a standard xr4
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dont worry ives.. hitech is still getting my business. just stumbled accross this and thought it might be worth a little research..
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photn
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* DING DING* my turn hehehehehe
okay where to start.
Rightio...Miltek ARE GREAT, they ARE THE BEST off the shelf EXHAUST i would use.
3500 is the price you would pay because that company would specifically order them in for your CAR!!!! Trust me matt ive already been down this route.
The reason EP is the same is cause they still have to ship them into AUS which is what costs the most.
Outlawha has got some good points, many fiesta owners 1.6ltr ones have had issues with the Engine light comming on when they have changed the
exhaust manifold. im not saying you will but just take that into mind. cause he paid 700 for the item then he paid like another 700 to get an auto elec to
fix the sensor for ir but the light still comes on.
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MR-XR4 said that he would only pay 1800 for an MILTEK exhaust because in all reality thats all they would really be worth. Getting a Full system Will void
waranty no matter what your dealer says. If you can get him to put it in writing and sign and date it then you can stress less.
Also i wouldnt take what pumaspeed as the final word. they have been known to not quote the best figures. they tend to vary between BHP fly and atw.
As the alternative of HITECH, they are good. they can TUNE your exhasut to sound EXACTLY how you want it to sound and provide the BEST warranty and
caftmanship second to none. In regards to the light issue you talked about, when you get them to do it they do it properly, no half assed attempt that
your not happy with. If you dont like it you tell them and they fix it. quite simple.
In saying that if you get a problem with the miltek system who would offer support?. cause i know of instances where a miltek system in the UK had Very
POOR welds done and it fell off so to speak.
But the General consensus is that they are one of the top leading brands.
Though REMUS is THE TOP OF THE LINE way way way above miltek.
Well thats my few cents. if you want more info PM me.
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BLKXR4
think im goin to ho hitech.. all my dealing with them were good..
thanks photn..
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photn
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No wucken Furries lol..
try hitting up Remus as well just to see what they offer. i know they offer a back box for the XR4 that you could probably get. they are about 600. but ud
still need extractors sports cat and connecting pipe.
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Unknownspeedster
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whats wrong with a well made custom system over these off the shelf systems?
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aza5c
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:52 pm
Unknownspeedster wrote:
whats wrong with a well made custom system over these off the shelf systems?
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Agreed! I drove into Sureflo exhaist at Ingleburn (keep in mind I was not looking for specific performance gains and therefore did not dyno test the car
before/after) and said that I wanted the car to sound better (lets be honest, the engine note of the XR4 is fantastic but the exhaust note leaves alot to be
desired!). I had had a fairly detailed poke around under the car before I took it in and came ot the conclusion that a rear box change would most likely
give me the result I wanted.
When the guy stuck it up on the hoist we had a good look at it and I voiced my opinion before he said anything, and he agreed that a rear muffler change
would do the trick. I asked the full system/cat back questions and he made mention that the whole system is 409 stainless steel and a suitable pipe
diameter with mandrel bends so replacing most/all of the system (barring manifold) would be virtually negligent and cost an arm and a leg.
We debated whether to remove the resonator which is just in front of the rear muffler and decided against it, and if I didnt like the note of the new
muffler then we could remove the resonator and try that.
He fitted up a Supercat muffler (probably not high quality but for the price I expect i will be happy with it for more than enough time), it took him about
45mins-1hour including the inspection/debate and he chagred me $200. It sounds great, much better than the Milltek and Remus systems I have heard
on the net, and for $200 shit I couldnt be happier.
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BLKXR4
well said mate...
so u decided against a full system becuase it would be negligent.. y is that..
im looking foward to hear yours..
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Just it terms of a handfull of horsepower for big dollars (I ended up looking at prices of $1500-$4000 for the Milltek, Remus, etc etc style things) and I am
not intending on racing it competitively I just thought that could be money better spent else where, brakes, suspension etc. Thats my choice though, I
had budgeted about $600-$800 to do the exhaust and with only spending $200 I have more in the kitty!
Whatever you decide will surely work out, and if your looking at going down the Dreamscience route then a more complete aftermarket exhaust will give
you more scope for bigger gains when tuned properly. Again i'm not looking at getting involved in the dreamscience thing so I took that in to
consideration when deciding on the exhaust.
Ultimately its your call, but I think ives said it best that $3500 is a huge chunk of change, especially ona $25K car!
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yeah i agree.. thought about it further and went - NAH!!!
Im not doing the dreamscience thing either, not something im interested in.
its funny my older brother put it the same way as u, ur not planning on racing it, so whats the need for such expence..
I am going to go to Hitech and get it done there.. only for the sound quality they produce, and as photn said, if there are any problems, they will be there
to help..
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Ill hopefully get away with only $1000.
Ive got a (mod budget) and im going to stick to it..
Thanks for your view mate..
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outlawha wrote:
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I surgest you read our sister site about exhurst
then i surgest you read the euro sites about exhurst
then i surgest you stop listerning to the milteck rep
but your call
did he mention
did he mention
did he mention
did he mention
air box mods
the ecu mods
the need for back pressure
the light issue people are still complining about on othe models that they said would and didnt happen
your money your call
Mate STFU. No fuel injected car needs backpressure. AND being no quicker off the line?? WTF are you smoking
Having said that 3.5g is a rip
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as a mechanic i should know a litle about cars
ie back pressure is needed so cylinders total fill with unburnt air fuel mix and it all doesnt just rush straight into the exhusrt
and if traction control is used correctly all cars can get off the line as hard as each other ps use to race cars as well
but as always i will leave it to youguys and what you know
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Yeh I have to agree with the backpressure, was reading UK fiesta st forums a while ago with alot of owners complaning about the engine lights and
everything with an exhaust. Not enough backpressure was definetely a problem....there was some good mechanical explanation for it all but I can't find it.
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Due to the high overlap time when both inlet and exhurst vales are open no back pressure means gases excape un burnt and cylinder doent fill up with air
fuel mix
best i can do with out drawing a pic hahahhahaha
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Put simply, your wrong. Backpressure is a restriction and a restirction mean a lose of power.
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_product/sue462/backpressuretorquemyth.htm
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_39893/tm.htm
The engine light comes on because the oxygen sensors reading are out of range for a stock car so it thinks something is wrong.
Get the stupid idea that engines need backpressure outa your head.
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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:44 am
I can't justify replacing the whole system when the Fiesta already comes with a stainless mandrel-bent system. I mean sure, some weight might be
saved, but is it worthwhile if it could possibly void your warranty, and that stupid damn ECU light comes on? I think not.
Replace the front muffler with stainless pipe, and the back box with a sportcat muffler or something similar, and that'd get 3/4s of the gains a full Milltek
might get you.
07xr4
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:25 pm
heres a picci of my new muffler i got from lambros at hitech.
sounds good and doesnt look to bad either.
it was $350
will see you guys on the bathurst crusie and you can have a look.
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MR-XR4
ooooooooooooooooo me like.
Is it just muffler replaced or cat back? How big is the tip?
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07xr4
not to sure how big il measure it tomorrow.
i thought it looked to big at first but the more i look the more it suits the hole.
its just the muffler raplaced.
didnt think it would make such a big difference in the sound but it has made a huge difference.
alot of popping wich is always good.
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Barney
hey just a question has anybody dealt with liverpool exhaust when i had my SSS sr20 and a n13 shape one they done the systems on that and always
sounded great with good sounds and the right price...
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MR-XR4
Ive only heard great things from Livo Exhausts, but havent dealt with them personally. When ive done 3000kms and i open my arms and wallet for mods,
i will sure give them a tinkle, same with Hitech. Ive dealt with Castle Hill Exhausts and they too are pretty good if your on a budget but still do high end
stuff.
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photn
Loving the look mate. Really A class.
See if you can get us a video of her in action.
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:09 am
thats exhaust looks shitloads better than standard!!
i looked a mine yesterday arvo...why the hey is there 2 pipes coming out the rear muffler then into one and the back of the car looking at it at eye level it
looks fucking stupid!!! a tip with two sections!!
who is responsible for this at ford!!! i want his number!!
07xr4
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:05 am
got a short vid of a little drive nothing special just something to give u a little idea of the sound.....
sorry bout my nephew haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yctEOGifY0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySCAbj2uy_k
sorry bout my nephew haha
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07xr4
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:34 pm
its about 3.5 to 4 inch tip
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MR-XR4
Hahahah your nephew is very funny. At least he can hold a vid cam, a mate of mine had no idea and decided to video the ground for 10minutes. I wasnt
happy.
3.5 - 4 inch should fill up the recess snuggly. Cant wait to see it. Sounds the goods too..
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Cool, nice exhaust... I'll listen to it at the Bathurst cruise... 6000rpm up.
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BLKXR4
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:30 pm
hey all.. i have mine booked in for saturday.. 90% sure im getting a remus system, should sound good!!
I dont want anyhting too loud considering how much louder my car is already thanks to the cool air intake.
The guy who's shop im going to wants to have a look and he was really enthusiatic to play with the xr4!!
He stocks remus and agrees that that is more than likely the best bet to go with.. but at the same time wanted me to keep my options open until he has
seen me (he might have something better or custom)
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So i will keep you all posted! im pumped though!
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Ives
... and you're coming to the bathurst cruise, right?
Are you still getting a full exhaust from Hitech? if so are you still doing the thing we talked about?
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BLKXR4
hey mate.. yeah im coming to Bathurst for sure!! Hytech talked me out of getting a full system and the thing i wanted was a bit on the pricey side..
It you get a full system with extractors its illegal.. and i didnt really want to go down that path.. but im sure i will be happy with what im going to get..
it will sound sweet lol.. cai will set it off.
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cant wait to hear it.
sounds the goods...
will be good to see a few xr4s going round with a bit of noise...
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I'm considering going to a Remus system too... Be very interested to see how yours turns out... vids as soon as its done please
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BLKXR4
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:27 am
will do mate
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:56 pm
righto.. update time..
I have ordered myself a remus system. It will arrive on the 7th January so i will have it on around then.. Cant wait to hear what it sounds like! I had a
remus test pipe on, and even that sounded insane!
I will put something up once it is on! hopefully a dyno run aswell... will not be 100% accurate as i already have the cool air inatake..
Its looking like it will be around the $1000 mark which i am happy with... As remus is the shit!!
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:34 pm
BLKXR4 wrote:
Its looking like it will be around the $1000 mark which i am happy with... As remus is the shit!!
I absolutely agree with you there. If I'm going to modify my pride and joy, you've gotta go with the best. Remus is very expensive, but that's the price of
quality. I'll be interested to see how it goes. What is the approximate power increase over the currently existing set up?
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BLKXR4
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:56 am
i cant find that info unfortunatly!
This is the first remus system for the xr4 to come in to Aus.
This is why the guy at the place im getting it done wants me to jump on a dyno, so we have facts and he can try to sell more of them..
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:25 pm
Well after much deliberation I have decided to do something with the Fezza's exhaust
I was uming and arring for ages as I was going to leave the system standard and have one of my cars quiet but..... Every time I take the Corsa for a drive
it leaves just that little bigger smile on my face and think the Fezza could do with the same.
Went and had a chat to the guy that has done all of my exhaust systems. He thinks that unlike the Corsa I can get a good note without doing a cat back
but rather a really good quality back box. This is in an attempt to sound deep and throaty without sounding tinny. With the Corsa we ripped the back box
off and it made no difference in sound, had to take off the middle resonator and then we could go from there. I want a nice note but a little more subtle
then the Corsa, which sounds great but is right on the legal db limit.
So hopefully will have it done in the next few days, he is mega busy as he is one of the best guys in Adelaide that actually takes the time to give you
exactly what you want, weather it be note, looks or performance. we are going to chuck a whole heap of oval stainless boxes on and see what sounds
best. I am staying away from cannon style as I feel they don't suit euro cars, well my opinion anyway!!.
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Going to give remus, supercat, magnaflow and a few others a go.
As soon as I have something done will post pics and vids.
cant wait!!!!!!!
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Ives
just one word.. WICKED.. well 3.. no now 5.. ohh shit.. ill shut up now.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:32 am
Sweet, keep us posted, man.
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:07 am
Off the shelf stuff???? I'm getting APC to make up a 2'1/4 stainless steall system to what I want for only $890. just can't get new headers atm. but I have
to get a set made up and they are about 800-1000 for a full set of custom headers which still comes in way below miltech..
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I corrected apc just stuffed me around with the price.. I had the system quoted before christmass and was booked in for wednessday.. I rang to confirm
everything and he tried to put the price up bout $600.. will update when I get a new quote and from where..
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Well quick update on the exhaust with the Fezza
Went in on Saturday to get the work done. Up went the Fezza on the hoist and there were looks of "shit I'm impressed at this factory setup" all round.
First time the boys had seen an XR4 in person.
For a factory system the guys were impressed that the size and quality of piping was actually pretty good. As we all know stainless system and mandrel
bent from the factory.
So then came decision time!! The factory back box is pretty big and certainly not straight through, baffling sound and restricting gas flow somewhat. The
resonator before the back box was quite small and as the guys pointed out straight through. So they suggested that if we did the whole cat back with a
straight through back box the car would bark like hell and be very hard to keep close to legal db.
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so on went an oval straight through, stainless super-cat back box and a nice bigger round tip. Once we fired the Fezza up, well pure heaven!!! Very nice
deep note, quiet on idle and very nice under load with no drone in the cabin and certainly no buzzing like a few of the excels out there, we all now that
sound, and sorry to excel bash!!!! The sound is certainly not overly loud and within legal db limits and suits what i wanted just fine. Cant believe changing
just the back box made such a huge difference.
Well pics and vid to follow as soon as I have the time to get them up.
Huge thanks to Daryl and Jason at Everlast they did an awesome job and very much live up to their reputation as one of, if not the best exhaust shops in
Adelaide.
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Jmesh
wicked mate. In all Honesty i cant wait to find out what she sounds like...
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Chassis.
Awesome!! Love to hear it!
Im goin in for one next monday, and then pedders for a spring switch....
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:58 am
Anyine know of a good Exhaust place in Melbourne??
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aza5c
Hey Storm, thats exactly the same as what i did. i went to Sureflo Ingleburn (Syd) and they has the same reaction to the factory system.
Supercat rear box, leave factory resonator, swwweeetttt.
You'll find that it actually gets deeper and a little quieter as thwe carbon builds up, but up high in the rev range its simply awesome. Enjoy!
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BLKXR4
Hey all.. just got the phone call (finally).. my remus system arrived today!
It will be going on this long weekend!
So excited! I think it should sound decent together with the CAI..
can you put sound clips up on this site?
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Awesome stuff there Matt. Im pretty sure you can upload videos/audio to the photogallery. Give it a go and let me know if you got problems.
Bloody hell everyone is getting exhausts done, I think im the only one with no mods.... Boo hoo to me
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Nah, ur not the only one. I was supposed to get one today but am now savin for a US holiday. I didnt even bother talking to em as the temptation would
be too stong to resist....but i want a lil noise dammit!
Update - US trip went down the gurglar, now time for some noise!!!
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Awesome stuff there Matt. Im pretty sure you can upload videos/audio to the photogallery. Give it a go and let me know if you got problems.
I've got none YET, bought a drift CAI but gotta move the ecu to make it fit, so in process of making new brackets
BLKXR4
tomorrow at 1030.. yay!!!
this remus stuff better live up to my expectations..
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:41 pm
righto.. te remus system is on.. and im happy as a pig in poo.. i could feel a diffrence straight away... were it used to lack. its picked up.. feels alot
smoother power too..
as for the noise.. not as loud as i was thinking, but a really nice note, sounds sweet!
It looks the part too.. ill put some pics up tmoz..
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Remus = NICE!!! Is that the whole system Matt?
I just got a high performance cat and rear muffler with larger tip put on today and i gotta say, this thing just chews up the revs now! It did too before, but
it felt like it was straining...........now, its smooth power all the way to redline! Oh, and the crackle and pop when u back off the throttle sounds insane!!!
He was pretty impressed with the XR4 exhaust, except for the cat and the design of the rear muffler, but overall said it was one of the better factory
systems hes seen
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MR-XR4
We want pixs and we want audio.
Congrats to both of you. Can wait to hear em.
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Yeah, definitely keen to see them. I'd love a Remus system, not financial at the moment, but definitely later down the track.
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Thanks guys, will post up pix in the photo gallery as soon as i get the springs on (8am this sat!) and give her a good clean...the poor thing is filthy
Funny thing with my exhaust though, and im keen to hear if Matts is the same, but inside the car, the exhaust sounds really loud, but outside, its a
beautiful mild sound.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:40 am
i agree JMESH.. so mush smoother and willing.. im so happy.. and its getting a little louder each time i drive.. but yeah it loves to rev.. i have a cat back
system.. from the first cat..
ill put up some piccies.. and sound.. i filmed it with my phone..
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Hey guys
Im thinking of getting the Milltek Cat-Back Exhaust, just got a price from the Aus dealer for $1600, price off european-parts.net is 469EUR (about $780)
plus shipping say $150, So a total of $930.
How much do you think fitting will be if i get in from euro-parts??
What do you guys think??
BLKXR4
man thats crazy for a cat back system..
and miltek have a wierd sound imo..
if ur willing to spend that much.. get a remus for half price.. same results..
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I was thinking bout remus. I emailed them they said they only make the muffler for the XR4... Where did you get yours from??
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:12 pm
BLKXR4 wrote:
man thats crazy for a cat back system..
and miltek have a wierd sound imo..
if ur willing to spend that much.. get a remus for half price.. same results..
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Matt, where did you order your Remus system from? I'm in the market very soon to change the exhaust and want it to be the best. Remus is the best,
IMO. Do I need to contact a supplier? I know Remus systems are independently tailored to the car, so the waiting time should give me a chance to get the
money, as well
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hey mate, i got it from Best mufflers in Carlton.
It took around 7 weekd from memory..
Im happy as with it..
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BLKXR4 wrote:
hey mate, i got it from Best mufflers in Carlton.
It took around 7 weekd from memory..
Im happy as with it..
I tried looking through Remus. http://www.remus.net.au/page/1229552
Was this simliar to the exhaust they fitted to your car? Or do you think it's better to organise through Best Mufflers?
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Similar, but my pipe went back a fair bit more..
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Similar, but my pipe went back a fair bit more..
Did you find out how much the Remus increases power over the current set up? It's no use to me getting an exhaust if it doesn't improve the power. The
noise is not as important to me. Peformance improvement is always a top priority.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:24 am
i dont know exact figures..
But where it used to be flat.. it is no longer.. u can feel it..
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:33 pm
I just placed an order through Best Mufflers. Remus Exhaust, about $850 including installation. Should arrive in around 4 weeks, so I can't wait for that
day. When I emailed Remus, they said I'd be looking at a 5% power increase. Maybe that's being optimistic, but it'd be great if its true. Will keep updated
and post pics when it arrives.
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Quote:
I just placed an order through Best Mufflers. Remus Exhaust, about $850 including installation. Should arrive in around 4 weeks, so I can't wait for
that day. When I emailed Remus, they said I'd be looking at a 5% power increase. Maybe that's being optimistic, but it'd be great if its true. Will keep
updated and post pics when it arrives.
Is that a cat back system? or just a rear box?
Jono
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5% power gains would be an accurate figure.. and the sound gets beter & better for about 2 weeks..
combined with a CAI, sounds tops!
Remus only make a back box for it, but i got custom pipes from the cat..
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Yeah, just like Matt said. Remus don't make a cat back system for the XR4. It's something I might look into at a later date. For now, I'm saving my
pennies until the exhaust arrives.
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Nice one mate. Hope you can post a vid of the car after you get it done
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:44 pm
Just a quick word.. My car will be goin to hi-tech mufflers for a full system on monday.. He will me custom makin my
headers and the rest of the system obviously to suit.. it will be costing about $1800 - $2000.. Full custom system
at this price is quite good.. He had to order in exhaust flanges specifically for my xr4 however he
has ordered extra so if anyone is interested i now he has enough flanges for an extra 4 sets of headers
which will be easy for him to make after my initial set is done and should cost about $800..
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:18 am
NICE NICE.... be sure to get photos if possible and make sure you post up a video after its done.
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:14 pm
Best Mufflers called and let me know my Remus will be arriving tomorrow
fitted until next Saturday. I'll let everyone know when I do, though
The crap part is i'm so flat chat I mightn't be able to head over and get it
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ohh goodie goodie.
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:28 am
Got the xr4 back from Hi-tech yesterday, WOW........ What else can I say the note is so deep and lumpy I can't wait to fit some cams just for extra lump!
they made the header a 4 into 1 just like the Miltech's with the rest of the system stainless steal sports cat hi-flow resinator and rear muffler.. It sounds
so sweet hey! and the gains that I have noticed already are awesome the traction control doesn't stop flashin at me now if I boot it in 1st 2nd and 3rd..
Can't wait till the ecu has fully adjusted and I get it dyno'd.. I wreckon there is a good 10-15kw in it.. I have thrown some pics in the gallery my gallery is
under Jason Lindridge..
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:31 pm
Very nice Jason, Love your work.
Sorry to spam the thread, just curious about your rims They are exactly the ones i am looking for to stick on mine, Think they will look awesome on my
white just as they do one your blue.
I am just curious as to how much they set you back and what rubber you went for on them. I know everyone is going for the 35 profile with the 18's to
conserve rolling radius, but saw one the other day and it seemed to sit even higher off the ground then before. (thus radius and spedo will be out). Let me
know if you can because I am pretty keen on a set of those rims myself.
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do u live near in the eastern suburbs????
hopefully i see u around so i can have a listen...
looks good mate.
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:42 pm
Thinking about geting a rear box for the fez but unsure where i should get it done
Got quoted $230 down at parra exhausts but i deno if they do good work or not?
Anybody know of a good place or if para exhausts is decent?
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FPVXR4
Just make sure that you get a good rear Muffler/Resi.... You could end up with Drooone!!! That could drive you insane after the novelty wears off. I was
always told to go for the stainless steel and make sure that it "weighs a bit/nice and solid" determines that its good quality.
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 5:32 pm
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I got mine done at Budget Exhaust in Bankstown. Ask for Fadi, and tell him James sent you....dont let the name fool you, there is nothing budget about
their trademanship and professional advice. Ive taken a couple of my cars to him and i always leave a happy customer. Just today he fitted my Milltek
flexy, and mated with the hi flow cat and backbox he fitted a couple months ago, this thing now just feels like ive got torque on tap down low, plus it feels
like it just wants to redline now, where before it felt like it hit a flat spot above 5000rpm.
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XR4BEN wrote:
mate, ill be going to parra exhaust to get my exhaust done. and trust me. they do an awesum exhaust system. his work is top quality too.
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Decided to take it down to Menai Mufflers this friday since i can drop it off there and walk to work, all the other places are just too much of a hassle
getting to n from there.
Hopefully it turns out alright, carnt wait to get some noise outa her!
Oh does any1 know if having a resonated tip will reduce the noise by much?( which i dont want )
And also where to get him to cut the stock muffler off to be flanged
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I hate to be a stick in the mud here, but I have to point out something. I have known a wide host of people involved in the exhaust market. They
constantly tell me about young guys who come in with a Pulsar wanting an exhaust (you know the story). They fit something absurdly cheap. What's the
result? I can tell you from experience. A monotonous, overwhelming drone in the cabin, coupled with a reduction in performance.
Me, personally, am getting my exhaust fitted for the performance gain (as my top priority). The noise and appearence are great to have, but I'd rather my
car be more 'go' than 'show'. Years ago, a mate of mine had a V6 Magna. Not a bad accelerating car. Fitted a cheap exhaust, the thing became a slug &
the drone through the cabin was shocking. Think wisely before you invest in an exhaust. If you want the 'GO', you gotta cough up big bucks.
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[quote : And also where to get him to cut the stock muffler off to be flanged]
i had mine cut between the rear box and the rear resonator (kept the resonator in the system) there is only about 2-3 inches between these points and
not really practical to flange. They just welded the join but as it is in such a tight space its not noticible. Your call, but make sure you have a look at it
when its up on the hoist before you make your decision. I dont know what a resonated tip would do or if it would be any use, ask the guy when you get
there. If you can arrange for him to put your car up on the hoist at least for you to look and discuss before you leave just so there is no confusion.
[quote : I hate to be a stick in the mud here, but I have to point out something. I have known a wide host of people involved in the exhaust market. They
constantly tell me about young guys who come in with a Pulsar wanting an exhaust (you know the story). They fit something absurdly cheap. What's the
result? I can tell you from experience. A monotonous, overwhelming drone in the cabin, coupled with a reduction in performance.
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Me, personally, am getting my exhaust fitted for the performance gain (as my top priority). The noise and appearence are great to have, but I'd rather my
car be more 'go' than 'show'. Years ago, a mate of mine had a V6 Magna. Not a bad accelerating car. Fitted a cheap exhaust, the thing became a slug &
the drone through the cabin was shocking. Think wisely before you invest in an exhaust. If you want the 'GO', you gotta cough up big bucks.]
I agree with the caution of a cheap exhaust not always providing gains, although IMO in the case of the XR4, the design of the factory rear box is
horrendously restrictive and any aftermarket muffler that provides better flow will not lose you any power. I spent $200 on a supercat rear box from
Sureflo, and it does not drone and is not obcenely loud, it is a deep note (I would probably prefer something a little more crisp but for $200 i'm not
complaining) that really roars above 4000rpm. I went cheap first up for 2 reasons,1st i couldnt justify $800 plus on a system from the UK or $1200 for a
custom local system until I had heard them in person and and assesed their experience, and 2nd if i didnt like the note or if it droned, I have only spent
$200 so I would have the cash to change it if I want, but so far i'm happy.
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Sorry to be a pain in the backside, but doesn't the XR4 come with a Performance exhaust, 2.5inch, mandrel bends, stainless steel etc. If so why change
the system? Just a general question, thanks guys.
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FPVXR4 wrote:
Sorry to be a pain in the backside, but doesn't the XR4 come with a Performance exhaust, 2.5inch, mandrel bends, stainless steel etc. If so why
change the system? Just a general question, thanks guys.
True True and True, hence why i only changed the rear box, I went in prepared to replace the whole shebang, but when we got it up on the hoist, the guy
asked if I was specifically chasing power or just after a better note, i said I obviously dont want to lose any power, but for the mean time I would be
happy with a better note as I was not planning any induction or ECU mods until after warranty runs out. So he recommended just changin the rear box
and see if i'm happy with it, as the rear box looked and is rather restrictive.
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cheers for the helpful info
I'll have to think about flanging or not.
The other option i would have is geting a magnex rear muffler ( popular UK brand ) shipped for $230 which i wouldnt have any worries about the
quality.
If i dont like what the bloke at menai wants to do ill probly do that..
Tell ya how it goes
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Are the stock XR4 mufflers and rear resonator all straight through? Or are they fairly restrictive?
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FPVXR4 wrote:
Are the stock XR4 mufflers and rear resonator all straight through? Or are they fairly restrictive?
they are restrictive.
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:57 pm
Woot got the exhaust and very happy for what it turnd out to be.
All up was $250 cuz i didnt end up geting it flanged
I'll have to hear what it turns out like once ive worn it in!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vjMHBvb4Aw
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:02 pm
Well, I finally got my Remus exhaust fitted this morning. Not that the morning started off well. I actually missed the turn off on King Georges Road and
ended up in Sylvania
Anywho, ended up there and got it fitted fairly quickly. Looks absolutely fantastic, a billion miles ahead of the standard exhaust. As per Remus quality, the
stainless steel tip is noticeable larger, with Remus and the Wolf Logo engraved on it
When he started it up, there is barely a noticeable sound increase over the previous set up. No notice at idle, but a nice roar when the revs are up over
4000. Nice and subtle, which is what I wanted. If I wanted a monotonous drone, I would've went to hte local shop and fit the cheapest offer. In fact, there
is absolutely zero drone throughout the cabin. I could barely hear it from the interior, but outside is a different matter.
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I didn't have the opportunity to open up the throttle on the way home, but it feels a lot less restrained and loves (even more) to scream to redline. In any
case, there's definitley a power increase.
Finally, I'll post some pics in the members ride section. And I recommend Best Mufflers at Carlton to anyone. The bloke there is a real character and
knows his stuff well.
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BLKXR4
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:25 am
Hi Red_XR4..
I have a remus system also, got it from Best Mufflers..
Wait around about 1-2 weeks depending on how much you drive..
It gets louder & louder..
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They sound awesome!!! A tops note.. and performance improvement is tops!!!
Enjoy!
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Awesome man. I gotta hear it sometimes
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:41 am
hey matt,
Where is best mufflers?? and how much did it cost supply and fit??
i also live it campbelltown
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BLKXR4 wrote:
Hi Red_XR4..
I have a remus system also, got it from Best Mufflers..
Wait around about 1-2 weeks depending on how much you drive..
It gets louder & louder..
They sound awesome!!! A tops note.. and performance improvement is tops!!!
Enjoy!
BLKXR4
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:54 am
Hey mate,
its in Carlton which is near Hurstville.. bout 40mins from us..
Up the m5 to king Georges road and bout 10 mins from there..
System was round $800 plus the custom pipes i got from the cat back.. (probs un-needed)
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They are good!
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I'll be seriously investigating the street-legality of old-school cherrybomb resonators if I wind up modifying my XR when I get up to QLD. Because for all
the computer-designed, mandrel-bent palladium-coated nonsense I see peddled at exhaust shops, none of them seem to come close, performance-wise,
to a straight pipe with nothin' but a series of small holes punched in it, and wrapped in fibreglass insulation to absorb high-frequency noise. And they sure
don't sound anywhere as awesome; I had a cherrybomb on my last 2.0 Ford, and I kinda miss the rat-rod burble.
In a perfect world, though, I think what I'd ideally be looking for in an extensively modified exhaust system is just a cutout switch. A vacuum-actuated or
solenoid setup that diverts the exhaust straight down onto the tarmac from somewhere behind the axle and just north of the muffler when activated.
That'd give you minimal exhaust resistance when you wanted it, but a relatively quiet exhaust when it counted (around cops, schools, nunneries, etc).
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It's hardly a new idea - in fact, Pontiac used to offer it as an option back in '71 on the GTO:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v3GLNYzoZEM
When I was in high school a mate had this setup on the 253 in his HK wagon. Mind you, the cutouts dumped the exhaust out just aft of the headers, and
so the heat of the exhaust (and occasional gout of flame) eventually led to the bit of lawn where he parked the car catching alight one day. The HK had
been dripping oil for a while, and so the wagon kind of wound up on fire, but this is why you'd install the cutout further back and after the cat. It's
important that we learn from the mistakes of others.
'Course, I'm not sure how street-legal that setup would be these days (hell, I'm not even sure it was legal back 13 years ago)...
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Considering the xr4 comes with a tweaked sports exhaust...would i benefit from just an upgraded muffler in the performance and noise factor?. I dont
want too much noise, so not keen on going cat-back. Was thinking of the Remus attachment mentioned in previous posts.
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MNML wrote:
Considering the xr4 comes with a tweaked sports exhaust...would i benefit from just an upgraded muffler in the performance and noise factor?. I dont
want too much noise, so not keen on going cat-back. Was thinking of the Remus attachment mentioned in previous posts.
Absolutely. It's commonly known that the rear box on the XR4 is very restrictive. I cannot recommend Remus enough. They don't make a cat-back
system, but the rear box is more than adequate. I noticed a good gain in performance. The car was more eager to redline, but surprisingly enough, I
found most increase higher in the revs.
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Great! just what i wanted to hear...will most likely opt just for the muffler. Has anyone been able to source this system for less than $750 as advertised
on Remus site?
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:35 pm
Just ordered a new flexi pipe for my Fez from Best Mufflers.
Chris was great to deal with. Can't wait for the thing to arrive now!!
Best Mufflers XR4 Flexi
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was thinking of the mild only 190!!
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Very interested in knowing how that goes...... Do you know the exact internal diameter of the flexi from best?
Thanks, Jono
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I went with the stainless, since the rest of the system is stainless.
Will definately report on how it goes once fitted
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Very interested in knowing how that goes...... Do you know the exact internal diameter of the flexi from best?
Thanks, Jono
It says 60mm on the website. If that's the case, it's the same diameter as the Milltek flexi. The stock pipe is 42mm, for comparison. I got a Milltek flexi off
europarts & fitted it a while back (before the financial crisis hit). It is a BIG improvement in the exhausts breathing. It doesn't feel restricted anymore and
hammers to redline a lot quicker.
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Seeing as though you can now get this from a local source, I would highly recommend it. Best mufflers are one of the best exhaust shops in Sydney, no
questions asked. Get this mod now!!
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:00 am
I just got stimulated by KRudd too... But do I need tyres.... Hmmmm
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Quote:
It says 60mm on the website. If that's the case, it's the same diameter as the Milltek flexi. The stock pipe is 42mm, for comparison. I got a Milltek
flexi off europarts & fitted it a while back (before the financial crisis hit). It is a BIG improvement in the exhausts breathing. It doesn't feel restricted
anymore and hammers to redline a lot quicker.
Seeing as though you can now get this from a local source, I would highly recommend it. Best mufflers are one of the best exhaust shops in Sydney,
no questions asked. Get this mod now!!
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LOL I must be blind, I completely didn't see the 60mm id on the best page! (can now!) as you guessed I wanted to make sure it was at least the same as
the miltek one!
Thanks for the thoughts too, just what I needed to say go for it.
Krudd will be happy that we get to stimulate the aust economy instead of EU!!
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:45 pm
Got a package in the post yesterday
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There is absolutely no reduction in pipe size and the quality of workmanship from Best Mufflers is excellent. The TIG welds are superb. I don't want to hide
it under my car now
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Certainly looks the goods!
I know what I'm picking up next pay day.
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 1:38 pm
I fitted the flexi today. Very easy job, took under an hour.
My only gripe is that the position of the O2 sensor has been rotated to a more vertical position on the pipe and due to the sensor's length it was hitting
the heat shroud in the exhaust tunnel. A small bit of trimming fixed that.
I've only taken the car for a short blast so far, but there is definately an improvement. Its so willing above 4000rpm.
The exhaust has a slightly different sound at the front of the car too, but I think as the new pipe carbons up it will return to the same. If not, I don't care,
it still sounds good under the bonnet.
Sound out the tailpipe is unchanged.
Here are some pics of the stock one and you can see how much smaller the ID of the flexi is.
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Small update.
I have no idea why, but since fitting the new flexi all the cold start crankiness is gone.
No rough idle when cold, and no need to be cautious with the clutch on the first take off to prevent a stall.
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fairmont1998 wrote:
Small update.
I have no idea why, but since fitting the new flexi all the cold start crankiness is gone.
No rough idle when cold, and no need to be cautious with the clutch on the first take off to prevent a stall.
O2 sensor moving? maybe.....
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red_xr4
PS. Thanks for the pics, difference is certainly noticeable. Any change in mid rev torque? 2500rpm plus kinda zone?
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this mod now!! Once you change the rear box & flexi, that car feels completely different. Not so restricted, it can actually breath easy.
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fairmont1998
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:51 am
crosspug - Definately no loss of torque at low revs. I can still dawdle about in a high gear at low revs and the car doesn't labour. The difference in power
starts to come at 3000 and by 4000 rpm it is singing nicely
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fairmont1998 wrote:
crosspug - Definately no loss of torque at low revs. I can still dawdle about in a high gear at low revs and the car doesn't labour. The difference in
power starts to come at 3000 and by 4000 rpm it is singing nicely
Very glad on that, although I was actually hoping it might increase a little.... ! Maybe I'm just torque greedy.
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crosspug wrote:
fairmont1998 wrote:
crosspug - Definately no loss of torque at low revs. I can still dawdle about in a high gear at low revs and the car doesn't labour. The
difference in power starts to come at 3000 and by 4000 rpm it is singing nicely
Jono
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Get a Focus ST/XR5 then lol! plenty of torque to keep you happy, has me smiling everytime I drive it lol!, however to be honest evertime I drive the Fezza
it just leaves me all giddy, I still prefer it to the Focus! Man I love our little beasts, such an awesome little car!
But seriously I think I will be ordering one of these babies really soon, may have to drop around your place Darin to install it as I no longer have my
stands etc.
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Sounds good Tom.
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storm shadow wrote:
crosspug wrote:
fairmont1998 wrote:
crosspug - Definately no loss of torque at low revs. I can still dawdle about in a high gear at low revs and the car
doesn't labour. The difference in power starts to come at 3000 and by 4000 rpm it is singing nicely
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Jono
Get a Focus ST/XR5 then lol! plenty of torque to keep you happy, has me smiling everytime I drive it lol!, however to be honest evertime I drive the
Fezza it just leaves me all giddy, I still prefer it to the Focus! Man I love our little beasts, such an awesome little car!
But seriously I think I will be ordering one of these babies really soon, may have to drop around your place Darin to install it as I no longer have my
stands etc.
i was thinking bout also getting one these...maybe we could combine postage
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The price on the site includes postage Australia wide. Might not save anything combining them.
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yeh i just looked at the site again and its free postage auswide...lol so yeh doesnt actually matter
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ive gone and ordered one of these flexi pipes...the guys at best mufflers are good to deal with...plus he has repositioned the o2 sensor position so i wont
have the same issue as fairmont1998 had with it hitting the heat shield, hopefuly i will have it by tuesday and fitted by wednesday
p.s would i need new exhaust gaskets due to the larger diameter of the flexipipes?
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Nope, reuse the original ones. They are the metal shim type and the hole in them is plenty big enough.
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hmm with all these comments and pic's i'm getting that buying feeling...
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i say do it...lol
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+1 to the Flexi Club.
Got mine fitted today at Best Mufflers in under 45mins. Chris is a champ. Had a good chat with him. He's very suprised that it has been so popular and
might even concider making some headers in future. I must say after looking at the stock one close up " WHAT WERE THEY THINKING" comes to mind. So
restrictive and looked like it had come off a pre 1960s car. The Stainless Steel one is a work of art.
I can definitly feel alot more pickup through all the gears when above 3000rpm, then to redline it has a song of its own. Exhaust note seems slighly
deeper but nothing to jizz about. When i wind down the windows, radio off and no other traffic and give it some right foot slowly you can hear alot more
sucking.
Overall im very happy with it. Best Bang For Buck.
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Barney wrote:
hmm with all these comments and pic's i'm getting that buying feeling...
Do it Barney! A purchase u will not regret imho
And bout time Damo!
lol
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Good to hear Damo
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Hey just wondering if the flexi is the restriction in the 1.6L as well?
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Under the Hood:- Superchips ECU Flash Tune, NGK Laser Platinum Sparks, KV85 Magnecor Leads, BMC CDA Induction.
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Exterior:- HID Xenon headlights and foggies, Wolf Concepts overhead/side stripes, Spoiler, clear side repeaters, Lowered (35mm) King Springs, Whiteline 22mm Rear
sway bar, 2" cat back exhaust with a dual conversion, Konig 17" Hotswap with Toyo Proxes 4 rubber, DBA Slotted Front Rotors, Smooth rear wiper, Clear High Mounted
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Soon to come:- Colour coded handles etc.
Not sure about the 1.6 but the reason for the restriction on the xr4 is due to the insurance costs in the UK.
If the car had more than 150HP they would be in a higher insurance bracket and younger drivers ( the fiesta ST's target market) would not be able to
afford to insure one.
The air box and exhaust + the ECU are all used to limit power. The ST170 Focus had basically the same engine yet came from the factory with 170HP so
purely a marketing decision rather than any lack of perfomance ability on Fords behalf.
A set of headers would be great btw
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photn
Crispy is correct on alot of those facts.
unfortunately crispy the ST170 engine is quite different from the one in the fiesta.
the ST170 engine had VIS and also has VCT which where used to create the 170 hp, in the ST170 if you do the full exhaust and intake + tune and a
tunable exhaust timing cog and Under drive pulley youll see the 200hp area easily and this has been proven... so unfortunately the XR4 engine is actually
a 2.0 Duratec alloy enigine where as the Focus St170 has a cast iron block with an aluminium head. its the sam cast iron block used in the original escorts
i do believe from what the mk2 escort club tells me.
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Ahh, I see... Still annoying that they shoy they are more than capable of pushing 170hp out of a 2lt lump yet they de-tune the Fez to meet insurance
demands
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Crispy is correct on alot of those facts.
unfortunately crispy the ST170 engine is quite different from the one in the fiesta.
the ST170 engine had VIS and also has VCT which where used to create the 170 hp, in the ST170 if you do the full exhaust and intake + tune and a
tunable exhaust timing cog and Under drive pulley youll see the 200hp area easily and this has been proven... so unfortunately the XR4 engine is
actually a 2.0 Duratec alloy enigine where as the Focus St170 has a cast iron block with an aluminium head. its the sam cast iron block used in the
original escorts i do believe from what the mk2 escort club tells me.
REALLY!! the old pinto block still getting around
so can this vct head be bolted onto a duratec??
07xr4
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:29 pm
i happend to be looking into a milltek flexi and i saw the bestmufflers site and wasnt to sure but seeing people are happy i have booked in for saturday.
it saves waiting for it to arrive and the aussie dollar is a killer.
once i get this ill book it in for a custom tune to get her running right.
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:14 am
Hi guys,
Sorry to add to an old post - I've decided it's time to bite the bullet and get myself a decent exhaust system for the Fez. Can anybody recommend an
exhaust shop in Brisbane?
BTW, the Fiesta just had its first motorsport experience on the weekend - a tarmac rally/motorkhana/navigation rally sort of thing. Think it went pretty
well, but no results posted yet unfortunately (damn this thing does well through chicanes!). Will post an update when I get results and pics.
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:54 pm
AM_XR4 wrote:
Hi guys,
Sorry to add to an old post - I've decided it's time to bite the bullet and get myself a decent exhaust system for the Fez. Can anybody recommend an
exhaust shop in Brisbane?
BTW, the Fiesta just had its first motorsport experience on the weekend - a tarmac rally/motorkhana/navigation rally sort of thing. Think it went
pretty well, but no results posted yet unfortunately (damn this thing does well through chicanes!). Will post an update when I get results and pics.
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sent you a PM mate
im also from brisbane should go for a cruise sometime man
i have a silver xr4 no stripes.
id buy exhaust from overseas and get it shipped
go to A1 exhausts to get it installed.
A1 are great.
i have a milltek flex pipe and eibachs on mine.
looking at getting remus muffler from best mufflers.
and might get K and N 57i filter.
eibachs have given me bad camber so tyres wearing out fast.
are you also on fordxr4.com ??
ansellpa
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:27 pm
I have a full millitek system ( curently have the cat in place)
Not sure that you will get huge HP increases, and it is a bit quiet.
I am actually thinking of selling the back millitek muffler if anyone is interested.
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:31 pm
Anyone try a set of Mazda 3 extractors????????????????
Duratech engines in both cars. And looking at the engine bay of mum's Mazda3 and the GF's XR4, I think they may just fit.
Anyone tried it yet?
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:53 am
Wouldnt be much point, the mazda makes less kw's than the fez.
The Mazda ones would still only be tuned for economy/cost.
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Perhaps, but I am sure some tuning company would have made extractors for a Mazda3... So in theory it should fit an XR4?
Pure numbers of cars sold would suggest there would be some decent aftermarket support. Could be wrong though.
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Perhaps, but I am sure some tuning company would have made extractors for a Mazda3... So in theory it should fit an XR4?
Pure numbers of cars sold would suggest there would be some decent aftermarket support. Could be wrong though.
But there are plenty of options for the XR4/ST150 already...
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Milltek ( 4-1 and 4-2-1 still available some places)
SWA (South African - very well priced and two piece for easier fitting)
I think there are also ones by Blueflame, Inox, Simpson, and a fair few others...
Plenty of support in the UK so why not buy something you know will fit and perform rather than worry if sensor locations and bolt patterns are compatible
let alone the shape needing to match up with the rest of the exhaust and clear everything in the engine bay. Doesnt make much sense imo
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:23 am
I would just buy the millitek headers and flex, and get the rest custom made.
Save on freight. Plus you can decide how loud/quiet you want the rest to be.
Don't think fitting the headers is that easy. You have to undo the engine from its mounts, tillt it forward etc etc to fit it in. I had my mechainc fit mine and
it was all pretty tight going.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:35 pm
was thinking of buying a mongoose exhaust kit with the flex. but just got my outside calipers and did an eternal pipe measurement from stock. i dont
think doing the mongoose system is worth it, the mongoose is 2inch, and the external for stock is 2.16". i think it said on milltek that their pipe was
2.36", i think.
is it really worth replacing the whole catback? or should i just buy 4-1 headders and straight through muffler and de resonated? XD
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:24 am
Go to a decent exhaust shop and see what they think.
But from what people have been saying on here, the standard system is fine apart from the flexi and muffler. So if you were to get decent set of headers
w/flexi and a good muffler you should be right.
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mmmm yeh, that sounds the go. i like the sound with headders and no hotdogg, as i like to call em....
im also woried about drone in the cabin. :s my biggest fear. but exhaust dude said it shouldnt but if it does, we will put the old back on. just need an rdo
to come up when i can book in
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:19 pm
I am very keen to get the backbox replaced with something Staineless Steel - XForce or Magnaflow from Best Mufflers. I already have the Stainless Flexi
+ K&N Apollo CAI, so i think a new exhaust will complement it. I understand a few peeps have changed theres so just after some advice.
Would you recommend replacing the cat with a high flow one? 2.5inch both sides??
Is the existing piping 2.25 or 2.5 inch??
Would it be too loud if i removed all resonators, regardless of what muffler I have?
i just want something that is a bit louder than stock, nice crakles and pops when backing off...
Any advice will be great.
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:07 pm
Id just change the muff, keep the resonators, other wise it will be ridiculously loud inside the cabin. Best mufflers (like other good zorst shops) will tell you
the current system is fine apart from the flexi and rear box, its stainless and 2.25 inch, going to 2.5 will only make it go at high rmp, your low end power/
torque will probably drop a little.
IMO
fairmont1998
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:46 pm
Went and saw some exhaust shops today.
Requirements were - 100% stainless, flanged, not a cannon, no drone and not loud. I want it to bring out the exhaust note without the whole
neighbourhood hearing me leave. My main aim is something free flowing.
First stop was Exhaust Technology. He was pushing the JunBL muffler pretty hard, had a look at it and not overly impressed. It reduces in pipe size
considerably inside the box. $640 fitted :S
Also offered a cannon and not once looked under the car. Grrrr.
Next went to AAA Exhausts. Was greeted by Jim, top bloke. He got me to put the XR4 straight up on a hoist and had a good look underneath. Spoke
about what he proposed to do and how it would sound. I got the feeling he knew what I wanted.
Jim suggested the Genie stainless straight through muffler fitted at $460 and as we talked more he had a rethink and suggested I might prefer the sound
of the Magnaflow box at $520 fitted. Both mufflers are a quality item, the Magnaflow being better presented with the polished look where as the Genie is a
brushed stainless finish.
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Then stopped at D&T Salisbury. Bloke there poked his head under the car. Had a quick chat and suggested a Supercat reverse flow muffler fitted at $450500.
Not overly keen on a reverse flow muffler. They don't give as good a note in my experience.
Think I will stop in at Everlast too when I have a chance, but am definately leaning towards AAA. I've had them recommended to me by numerous people
and was impressed today.
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keep me informed on which place gives you the best price fairmont1998 as i'm looking at getting a new rear muffler for mine but i only went to exhaust
tech and yeah don't really get much of a choice there its either lukey or jun bl
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keep me informed on which place gives you the best price fairmont1998 as i'm looking at getting a new rear muffler for mine but i only went to
exhaust tech and yeah don't really get much of a choice there its either lukey or jun bl
He bagged Magnaflow too, lied about them being mild steel internally, when they are 100% stainless.
Not interested in people who instead of talking up their product, resort to bagging the opposition.
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yeah personally i think exhaust tech have gone downhill the last few years...people will say anything to sell there product
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:13 pm
Booked in with AAA to be done in a fortnight
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:48 pm
cool...wat sort price did they give you? love to hear it when you get it done
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Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:41 am
He said on the phone he is confident he'll beat the quote he gave me. I'll post up the price once its done and will get some vids of how it sounds.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:24 pm
Had the rear box done today
Took half a day and its fitted with flanges, as well as the original so I can swap them at home if I need/want to. All up cost $460 which was lower than the
quote Jim gave me.
Jim's workmanship is supurb, everything is done in stainless and the new tip (I supplied) sits perfectly in the bumper cutout.
Has a nice very deep note, will get some clips as soon as I can.
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:32 pm
Sorry this has taken so long, the weather has been horrid, the car filthy and my enthusiasm zero!
Pics of the Magnaflow rear muffler, exhaust tip and new piping after the resinator, all mandrel bends:
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Videos of start up and idle, some small revs too. This was a cold start, the car had sat for over a day unused, and you'll notice there is no start up issue. I
don't know why but the flexi and muffler have made the grumpy cold idle completely disappear, although it was never very bad on mine anyway. The idle
would get slightly lumpy but it never once stalled.
Best to listen through decent speakers, otherwise it doesn't sound like much. The note is very deep
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:13 pm
Driving videos! Had my mate drive the car while i filmed it last night.
First vid is of more sedate driving, lots of pops and crackles to be heard.
In the second vid my mate winds it up a bit more.
This was the first time I've heard it myself outside the car and I was so happy with the sound. Jim has nailed it.
Again, you will only hear it properly through decent speakers!
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:30 pm
the muffler just needs to sit up a little more in the bar
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Looks like quality work mate! Sounds really nice too
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I'm actually glad the tip isn't tucked up any tighter given the amount it moves about. If I started hearing knocking it'd drive me nuts!
Thanks crispy. I'm really happy with the quality and note.
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