January Issue.indd - New England Fiero Association

Jan 2003
Official Joint Publication of the Mid Atlantic Fiero Owners Association and New England Fiero Association
CONTENTS
Messages from the Presidents.................................. 2 & 3
On the Road - Hot Rod Power Tour ..................................4
It’s Been My Experience - Headlight Gears .....................6
Carlisle2002 Tidbits..........................................................7
My New Baby ...................................................................8
The Alternative Buying Guide ..........................................9
Understanding & Using the FieroPride BBS ..................10
January 2003
Static Fires at the Gas Pumps ........................................11
How Bob Ricci Got Into Fieros .......................................11
Winners - Fieros at Carlisle2002.....................................12
NEFA attends R.I. POCI & FOCONE Shows...................13
FOCONE Announces Summer2003 Show .....................13
Classified Advertising ....................................................14
Rainy Dayz @ Carlisle2002 ............................................16
Page 1
Ramblings
JENNIFER GILBERT
President
91 Mexico Road
Oley, PA 19547
(610) 939-9379
[email protected]
CLINT NICHOLS
Vice President
Troy, PA
(570) 596-4712
[email protected]
BOB SCHLAG
Historian/Web Director
Dover, PA
(717) 292-7647
[email protected]
DENNY LAMBERT
Artwork/Photography Director
Leola, PA
(717) 656-6485
[email protected]
JEFF DEDAY
Membership Director
Selinsgrove, PA
(570) 374-2308
[email protected]
JASON HAUGHEY
Activities Director
Reading, PA
[email protected]
JEFF RAMBERG
Merchandise Director
Newark, DE
(302) 368-4086
[email protected]
WES WILLIAMS
Newsletter Director
[email protected]
BRUCE HOMEYARD
Treasury Director
Gilbertsville, PA
[email protected]
RENEE DABROWSKI
Inter-Club Director
New Market, NH
[email protected]
CLUB INTERNET SITES
http://www.fieropride.com/mafoa.htm
e-mail: [email protected]
Group: www.egroups.com/list/mafoa
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Brrr. It’s cold out there! Looking outside makes Carlisle weather look tropical! We just
got more snow in one snowfall than we had all last winter! Good indoor weather!
In this column, I am writing to you with mixed emotions. This
will be my last column as the president of MAFOA, after having
done that for eight years. It’s been a great time, but now I’m
looking forward to letting someone else take the reigns. I’ll still
be continuing as the website director, will still be involved with the club, and with Fieros
At Carlisle.
I’d like you all to welcome Jennifer Gilbert as your new president. Jennifer and I have
been having a lot of conversation back and forth, and I feel that we are in good hands.
She has the ambition and desire to move your club forward, the biggest thing she needs
is your support.
I also want to extend a big Thank You to the past officers who have helped me get by
over the last eight years and to the new officers coming on board for next year. These are
the folks who help to make things happen. If you think you’d like to be one of those people
who make a difference in the next year or so, let Jennifer know.
We plan on looking back to our past. I will be compiling a history of MAFOA, and parts
of that will be printed in these pages, as well as on the website. We’ll also be running a
few articles from MidAtlantic Pride, the original newsletter.
Make sure you have your calendars marked for Fieros At Carlisle 2003. It will again be
held at the Carlisle Fairgrounds in Carlisle, PA. The date will be May 17. We have a great
time there, and we are due nice weather this year.
I want to encourage everyone to check out the FieroPride Forum. This is a great way for
members of our clubs to communicate. There’s Technical Help, Event information, and
there’s just plain fun topics. It’s easy, and it’s free! Just surf to fieropride.com/phpBB2
and check out the topics, then click “register” at the top of the page.
Finally, I want to thank all of you have supported myself and your club over all these
years. I’ll be around . . . Bob
by Bob Schlag
ExPres., MAFOA
byJennifer Gilbert
President, MAFOA
And now I’d like to take the time to thank Bob for all of his hard
work and dedication to MAFOA. Many of us know all the hard
work Bob and his wife, Penny, have put into the club and all of its’ functions. Without their
guidance and support, the club wouldn’t be where it is today! Thanks again guys!
I come into this office of President with big footsteps to follow and I am confident that
the incoming BOD can maintain the current level of excellence Bob has set, as well as
helping our club grow into the future. As Bob mentioned, we have the FieroPride forum
up and running and everyone should take the time to check it out. We are also well
underway with getting our newsletters back on track with our new newsletter director,
Wes Williams, who will be working with Gwen Randolph of NEFA to put out a wonderful
newsletter. I would also like to welcome aboard Clint Nichols as my vice-president and
Bruce Homeyard as our Treasury Director. As many of you already know, Jeff DeDay
will be taking over for Tom Derr as Membership Director. I’d like to take the time now to
thank Tom, as well as Earl Sessions and Bill Behret, our other outgoing directors, for all
of their service to our club.
Though I have met many of you at shows throughout the years, I would like to take the
time to introduce and give a brief background
Continued on page four
January 2003
NEFA President's Corner
Well, another year has come and gone. NEFA’s first show, FINE ‘02, was a HUGE
success! It looks like we should have the newsletter straightened out, AND we are able
to offer our current 2002 members the 2003 membership
year for FREE!
We held our annual elections on November 2nd. As always,
Bob and Penny Parker were awesome hosts! They provided
pizza, soda, and EVEN dessert! It was a great time.
The offices up for election were:
President (incumbent - Renee Dabrowski)
Membership Director (incumbent - Ray Paulk)
Newsletter Director (incumbent - Josh Bumpus)
Activities Director (incumbent - Brian Ream)
The winners were:
President - Renee Dabrowski
Membership Director - Ray Paulk
Newsletter Director - Gwen Randolph
Activities Director - Josh Bumpus
I want to thank Brian Ream for the wonderful job he did as Activities Director for the 2002
year and congratulate him and his wife, Theresa, on their upcoming family addition. I would
also like to take this time to congratulate Josh and Gwen on their new positions. I KNOW
they will do their best to fulfill the requirements of their offices. Welcome aboard!
2003 is shaping up to be our best year yet! FINE ‘03 will be held at Hebert’s Candy
Store in beautiful, scenic Sturbridge, Mass on June 28th, the same location as last year.
Please mark your calendars and plan on being there. We had a great time last year with
good friends and a great hostess. Also, we are looking at a date in April for NEFA’s annual
Swap Meet at Kick Hill Farms. I will post the date as soon as it is finalized.
If anyone has any suggestions for things that would make NEFA even better, PLEASE,
don’t hesitate to let me or any of the Directors know. We are always open to our members
on ways to enhance our club. We have some great things in the works for NEFA, so just
hold on tight and enjoy the ride!
Let’s see if we can get a head count and maybe some routes set up for those of us
who plan on attending the 20th Anniversary of the introduction of the Fiero being held in
Michigan in July. It would be really great to have a large New England presence at the
show. Rob and I plan on bringing the Dirty Rat with her new 383 nitrous injected motor.
It is going to be an AWESOME time!
by Renee Dabrowski,
President NEFA
OOPS!
On last issue’s back cover, a
photo of a Ferrari 328 replica
was mistakenly labeled as a Mera.
We apologize for any confusion.
Thanks to Dana Junkins for pointing that out! - Ed.
FIERO PRIDE is published quarterly by the Mid Atlantic Fiero Owners Association and the New
England Fiero Association. Subscription is included in the annual dues. All memberships expire
January 31. Dues paid during any part of the year entitles a member to all four issues. Most contents
may be reproduced with permission. Copyright 2003. www.fieropride.com
January 2003
New England
Fiero Association
RENEE DOBROWSKI
President
129 Exeter Rd., Newmarket, NH
603) 659-6213
[email protected]
ANDY VIRZI
Treasurer
19 Comstock Dr., Milford, NH 03055
(603) 672-8036
[email protected]
GWEN RANDOLPH
Director - Recorder
Director - Newsletter Editor
18 Stone Gate Dr., Coventry, RI 02816
(401) 397-7610
[email protected]
JOSHUA BUMPUS
Co-Director - Events
1051 May Street
New Bedford, MA 02745
(508) 995-1668
[email protected]
RAY PAULK
Director - Membership
19 Ben’s Way, Hopedale, MA 01747
Tel: (508) 634-3511
Fax: (508) 634-3512
[email protected]
STEVE KELLEY
Co-Director - Events
Steve Kelley
18 Spruce Park Dr., Plainfield, NH 03781
(603)675-9193
[email protected]
[email protected]
ERIC SCHNECK
Director - Webmaster
2578 Cranberry Highway, Suite 2,
Wareham, MA 02571
(508) 295-8015
[email protected]
JAIME GARMAN
Director - Public Relations
527 Collins Corner Rd., Dartmouth, MA
(508) 995-4264
[email protected]
JENNIFER GILBERT
Director - Inter-Club Coordinator
MAFOA
91 Mexico Road, Oley, PA 19547
(610) 939-9379
[email protected]
CLUB WEB SITE
http://www.fieropride.com/nefa.htm
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On the Road
by Gwen Randolph - Recorder
Phil’s yellow Formula was packed for
the Hot Rod Power Tour trip (2002 made it
four in a row) that was starting in Lincoln,
NE on Thursday, May 24. Our first stop
was MAFOA’s Fieros at Carlisle show on
Saturday, May 18. Saturday evening A.C.
Dobson asked Phil about the Hot Rod Power Tour as he was planning to surprise his
son, A.C., Jr., by joining the “Tour” for one
night when we stopped in Louisville, KY.
This year we weren’t going to be the only
Fiero on the “Tour” because V-8 Archie
was coming with his yellow stinger and
two young men from Kansas were touring.
With A.C. & his son joining the group, we
knew that it would be a fun time.
We met up with A.C. and his son in Louisville on Day 4. With four Fieros parked
together and V-8 Archie’s Stinger parked a
RAMBLINGS, continued from page 2
on myself to the members who I have not
yet met. My name is Jennifer Gilbert and I
have been involved with MAFOA since 1999
when I purchased my first Fiero, a silver
88GT 5 Spd. Since then I have acquired
two more Fieros, a 1986 2m4 that is my
daily driver and a cobalt blue 1985GT which
now contains a 3.4. Many of you may have
seen the latter car at Carlisle and many
other shows this past summer. My entire
family is involved in Fieros and my father,
Jim, mother, Cyndi, and sister, Jamie, are
frequently at many of the car shows along
with me. It truly is a family affair!
Aside from Fieros, I am a teacher at
Fleetwood Area High School outside of
Reading, PA. I currently teach freshman
Geography and senior Government. I am
also a student council advisor, ski club
advisor, and car club advisor. In my spare
time I do a lot of other activities to keep
myself busy!
I look forward to serving as your President
for the upcoming year and hope to see each
and every one of you at Fieros at Carlisle
2003!
Remember when you’re in your
Fiero that “happiness isn’t around the
corner...happiness is the corner!” --Jen
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Long time fixture at Fiero events, A.C. Dobson stands in front of our Fieros.
few rows ahead of us (he had arrived earlier), I think we pretty much had the Fiero
market covered. They certainly received
lots of attention and we all answered lots
of questions. At each stop, vendors gave
out free tickets for that day’s giveaways
so each evening everyone gathered to see
if their ticket number and name would be
called. Phil, Archie, Archie’s friend, and I
were listening for our numbers to be called
off when we heard “Fiero”, not someone’s
name, just “Fiero”. There weren’t that
many of us so we had to know the person
who just won. Low and behold it was A.C.
Dobson’s son A.C., Jr. and he had won a
coveted custom-made Holley leather
jacket. Holley I think gave out only two
jackets during the entire week, so talk about
a lucky guy. It would take some time to get
the smile off his face. They had planned
on stopping for one night and A.C., Jr. was
lucky enough to win the jacket. The only
problem was that A.C., Jr. now needed to
go to Pontiac, MI to be fitted.
Somewhere between Cincinnati and
Columbus on Day 5, Phil’s yellow car
developed a skip. Wanting to check out
the skip and needing a nap, we stopped at
a roadside rest stop and there was A.C. &
his son. Phil asked him if he had any extra
spark plugs and A.C. happily obliged. Unfortunately the skipping reappeared again
down the road and Phil made the decision
to find a parts store once we arrived at the
venue in Columbus. None of the vendors
at the stop for the day were able to help Phil
A.C. Jr. and his wonderful jacket
January 2003
Upcoming
Events
A.C. Jr., A.C., and Phil try to get a handle on the problem.
The car on the trailer and our Power
so A.C. came to the rescue once again and
Tour
flag tied to the antenna of the truck
took Phil to a local parts store. Fiero people
we
started
off on Day 7. Once in Canfield,
are great! Back at the venue for that day
OH,
our
fi
nal
stop on the Tour, it was Phil’s
we ate dinner and watched the evening’s
plan
to
be
easy
with the car and drive it
entertainment. We were at a drag strip
back
and
forth
from
the hotel. During
and any Power Tourist could use the track
those
fi
nal
two
days
we
heard lots of sad
and lots of people took advantage of the
stories
about
other’s
trials
and tribulations
opportunity. Even A.C., Jr. took A.C.’s
along the road. We
gold Fiero down the
were definitely not
track a few times. He
the only ones with
was having one heck
problems this year.
of a good Power Tour.
Day 8 was the final
When we checked into
day. Once the picture
our hotel for the night,
for the magazine was
Phil worked on the car.
taken, we collected our
With lots of Power
souvenirs, and said our
Tourists staying at this
goodbyes. With the car
hotel it was party like
on the trailer we started
in the parking lot.
for home.
On Day 6 Phil The back of A.C. Jr's Holley jacket.
Since last May,
thought the problem
with the car was fixed. Unfortunately it A.C., Jr. has received his custom-made
became worse. We were really getting jacket and proudly wears it around town.
skips at this point and weren’t sure that Back home Phil got to the bottom of the
we would be able to continue the Tour. Our problem that was causing the skips and the
cruise down the famous Woodward Avenue yellow car was back on the road once again.
in Pontiac, MI was not particularly enjoy- Who knew that last year at the Carlisle
able as the car kept skipping the entire show when A.C. was talking to Phil about
route. At the venue, Phil asked the GM joining up with the Power Tour that A.C.,
Motor Medics to check out the car with Jr. would be the proud owner of a fabulous
their computer and the catalytic converter Holley jacket and because of the win and
was shown to be the possible problem. Not needing to go on to Pontiac, MI, that A.C.
wanting to damage the car, the decision was would be there to rescue us in our time of
made to trailer it the final day to Canfield, need. We will always be grateful for the
help that A.C. Dobson so gladly offered.
OH and then home.
January 2003
January 5, 2003
Winter Get-Together at the Gilbert’s.
Pot Luck. Please contact Jennifer @
[email protected] for more
information and directions
March 21 - 23, 2003
Florida Fiero Weekend 2003 - Space
Coast Fieros. Visit the Florida Fiero
Weekend 2003 at Daytona web site http:
//floridafieros.org/daytona2003
March 25 - 27, 2003
The Fiero Factory - the 5th (maybe the
last) swap meet in Toney, AL
April 12, 2003
NEFA’s Annual Swap meet at Kick Hill
Farms (pending approval from Bob
Parker)
May 17, 2003
Fieros at Carlisle - Carlisle, PA
May 29 - June 1, 2003
Dells Run 2003 in Wisconsin Dells, WI
at the Chula Vista Resort
June 20 - 22, 2003
FOCONE’s Summer show at the Wells
Auto Museum in Wells, ME
June 28, 2003
(pending approval of date)
FINE ‘03 - Hebert’s Candy Store in
Sturbridge, MA
July 4 - 6, 2003
Fieros at Auburn, IN (The birthplace of
the Duesenberg)
July 17 - 20, 2003
20th anniversary of the Fiero - Pontiac,
MI. Check out www.CFOG-i.com
August 16, 2003
Dutch Classic - Zinns Park, Denver, PA
August 31, 2003
Spindle’s 23rd Annual Car Show and
Swap Meet - Marshfield Fairgrounds,
Marshfield, MA. Check out http:
//members.tripod.com/spindlescarclub/
interest.htm
October 12, 2003
12th Annual Stratham Hill Car and Bike
Show, Stratham, NH
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It’s been my experience by Denny Lambert
Headlight motor gear replacement
with the Rodney Dickman kit
1984 - 1986 headlight motors have a nasty
tendency to eat teeth off the internal nylon
gear, after which the motor wants to keep on
keepin’ on (won’t shut off). Early symptoms
are a pronounced jerk, loud clunk, or both
when turning off the headlights and as the
motors start to lower the headlight.
There is a common misconception that
this is caused by the original grease drying
out and jamming the gears, but that just
ain’t so. What really happens is the OEM
bumpers that are supposed to cushion the
nylon gear, shatter from age and all the
force applied to them over the years (See
accompanying photos, below). The nylon
gear then freewheels until it whacks into the
cog, and the sudden stop breaks the teeth
off the gear.
Rodney Dickman (www.rodneydickman.com)
offers kits that contain new brush contact
assemblies and/or gear and bumper
assemblies. I opted for the gear/bumper
kit since my motors are fine electrically.
Rodney’s kit has very good instructions,
which take you through removal of the entire
headlight assembly from the car, so I’ll skip
that here. He can no longer obtain the OEM
bumpers, but the Viton(r) (a flexible polymer
resistant to chemical breakdown) ones in
the kit seem to cushion better, anyway, and
may last longer.
Tools required are: a 6” vice or press,
a drill and 1/4” bit, a 5/32” drift punch
and hammer, a small flat-tip and Phillips
screwdriver, a 7/16” open-end wrench,
an adjustable wrench, a 1/4” drive deep
socket set, and a 15 or 16 mm 3/8” drive
deep socket.
Drill off the rivet ends and, using a 1/4”
drive deep socket to support the plastic
housing, use the drift punch and hammer
to knock out the rivets.
Use the small flat-tip screwdriver to
separate the case halves, prying at the
slots provided in the housing.
Shattered bumpers
Bumper pieces
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Drill ends off rivets
Rivets removed
Rodney’s instructions are quite clear,
so all I’ll add is to clean the entire motor
assembly thoroughly before reassembly.
Pry at slots.
Lots of bumper debris can be scattered
throughout the gear assembly, and must be
removed. While you’re at it, it won’t hurt to
clean the rest of the motor, inside and out.
Reassembly is easy with the screws and
nuts provided in the kit.
New gears, bumpers, grease
January 2003
Carlisle 2002
Tidbits
Submitted by
Gwen Randolph
Several members of NEFA made the
decision last year to attend the Fieros at
Carlisle 2002 show at the fairgrounds in
Carlisle, PA that is sponsored each year
by MAFOA, even if they had to drive their
rebodies because their Fieros were ailing.
The Carlisle show is a kick-off show for us
in New England (except for the lucky ones
who start their show season in March at the
big Daytona show), so Carlisle in May is
excitedly anticipated.
Carlisle in May is definitely interesting
weather wise. You can always tell the first
timers at this show. Visit one time and pack
only light clothes and you quickly learn
your lesson. Pack your shorts, but also pack
long pants and a sweatshirt. Don’t forget
your raincoat and it wouldn’t hurt to pack
a lightweight goose down jacket “just in
case” because the weather can range from
beautifully warm and sunny to cold, rainy,
or even snowy. This is Carlisle in May,
but the show is fun and it’s great to see
Continued from over there
Finished motor
This rebuild, though not easy, is worthwhile
in that you end up with much quieter and
smoother operating motors - and it’s a
bunch cheaper than new motors!
On a difficulty scale of 1 to 10 (10 being
the most difficult), I rate this one a 7, not
for the casual wrench-turner.
Happy Fieroing!
January 2003
everyone. If it rains, you just do your best
to get the mud off the tires and wipe the rain
off your car to make it show worthy and if
people complain that you are wearing all
the cold weather clothes that you packed
for the weekend that’s just too bad. They
just might be cold and are looking to borrow a sweatshirt.
The drive to PA on Friday was uneventful with sunny skies and no construction
delays until Phil & I got to the Harrisburg,
PA area. We even encountered Barbara
Jannetty, Bob Ruscoe, and Michelle Ruscoe on the road. For a short time we drove
along as a four-car Fiero caravan.
Saturday arrived with a light rain. It’s
pretty bad when you start to measure the
intensity of rain at car shows. By early
afternoon the skies cleared making all in
attendance quite happy. After the awards,
a big group finished off the day by going
to eat at one of the local restaurants. Car
shows are all about getting together, enjoying our cars, and completing the day,
if possible, with a meal or maybe some
ice cream.
Several of the NEFA members took
class trophies and/or special awards last
year and went home with big smiles. Of
course, everyone went home looking forward to the car show season.
As I write this, the show season is over
for the year and the cold weather of late
fall is here which gives us a few months
to make any changes or modifications to
our cars before the car show season starts
up once again.
By the time you read this, the Daytona
show is only weeks away which means
that Carlisle is right around the corner
once again. Ladies and gentlemen, get
those cleaning materials in order and this
year when you venture to Carlisle in May
for MAFOA’s show, don’t forget to pack
those extras so you won’t look like a first
timer!
MAFOA MERCHANDISE
Show off your club colors and support your
club for the future! We have several items
of apparel and accessories for your car
which have the club logo emblazoned on
them. Also available are a few toy Fieros.
Any profits made from these items go into
the club treasury, to make a better club
for everyone. Contact Jeff Ramberg (see
Page 2 for contact info) for availability as
some items may not be available anymore
or may need to be ordered. Anyone have
ideas for additional items?
T-SHIRTS: Available in several colors,
grey and stonewash blue are most popular.
Printed with red and gold MAFOA logo on
front. $12.00 each.
New T-shirt Design Now Available! New tshirts have a large Fiero Emblem, with Mid
Atlantic Fiero Owners Association printed
on the front and www.fieropride.com on
the back. $12.00 each.
SWEATSHIRTS: Grey sweatshirts
are most popular, oth er col ors are
available by special order. Printed with
red and gold MAFOA logo on front and
www.fieropride.com on the back. $18
each.
VINYL WINDOW STICKERS: Vinyl
stickers depicting the MAFOA logo for
rear window, to show your club loyalty as
you drive around, and at shows. These are
very similar to the stickers you’ve seen on
other member’s cars in the past, but with
club website included. New Low Price
$5.00 each.
WINDOW-MOUNTED FLAGS: This
is a nice flag about 12"x14" made from
gold or red nylon fabric, double thickness,
with large Pegasus shield and MAFOA
logo printed in black. It’s mounted on a
pole (about 20" long) that is made to clip
over the top edge of a window. It can also
clip on sunroof glass, or the flag can be
removed from the pole and slipped onto
the antenna. $12.00 each.
FIERO HAT PINS: We have a few
different designs. Will have pictures in
future issues.
We are looking into engraved name
tags and lapel pins featuring the
MAFOA logo.
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My New Baby
I have been quietly searching for an 88
GT that I could drive on the weekends and
occasionally take to a show. One evening
while searching the ads on the Fiero Pride
web site, I noticed one for an 88 Medium
Red Metallic GT 5-speed located in California. The owner advertised the car as
“Lovingly maintained and garaged. Stunning.” After reading this, I couldn’t resist
contacting the owner.
My first contact was via email. The
owner was very receptive to the many questions that I had. The very first email that
I received included five photos of his car!
After carefully viewing all of the photos,
I was amazed by how well cared for this
car looked.
I then decided to contact the owner,
Chris, by phone. It was then that I discovered that he was the only owner of this
vehicle; he had ordered this GT from Pontiac in the spring of 1988. I asked for additional close-up photos of the interior, engine compartment and front compartment.
Chris was very cooperative in fulfilling my
request, emailing me with everything that I
asked for. After many lengthy phone calls,
I was comfortable with purchasing her and
bringing it to Pennsylvania.
I again relied on the Internet to locate a
transportation company. After contacting
many companies for quotes, I decided on
an enclosed carrier from Intercity Lines,
Inc. (www.intercitylines.com) Intercity
was great to work with!
The car was picked up on a Friday evening near Chris’ home in California. Chris
called me to let me know that my Fiero
was on the truck safely with a car cover
over her. I contacted Intercity on Monday
afternoon to learn that they made it to Missouri! Roger, the driver, contacted me next
on Tuesday evening from Ohio stating that
the car would be delivered on Wednesday
afternoon. At this point I was so anxious
about my new Fiero - I just couldn’t wait!
On Wednesday we made arrangements
to meet at the local Wal-mart to accommodate the length of the transportation carrier.
My phone rang at 2:00 p.m. with the call
that I waited almost a week for, and anticipation was running high as I pulled into the
Wal-Mart parking lot! The smile on my
face revealed to Roger that I must be the
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new owner! Roger was a Fiero lover, too
- he made many comments about the car,
telling me that this was the nicest example
that he had ever seen. As I thoroughly
Jeffrey DeDay
MAFOA Membership Director
examined the car, I couldn’t believe what
I was seeing; I had high expectations about
the car yet it exceeded all of them.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL!
Jeff’s Fiero after being delivered from Intercity Lines.
I still keep in touch with Chris though
email since we share the same interest in
automobiles. Not only did I make a new
friend, but also I got a gorgeous car to
boot!
So while I agree that you should be cau-
tious in making purchases via the Internet,
I found it to be a very positive experience
which I would recommend. I look forward
to showing off the new car during the upcoming season.
— Jeff DeDay
Jeff and his new Fiero.
January 2003
THE ALTERNATIVE
NATIVE BUYING
BUYI
GUIDE
Submitted by Tom Derr
Classified ads, and only classified ads for
cars tend to follow a definite set format. Classic cars are no exception and, if anything, are
usually more prone to the format than are
the vanilla everyday econoboxes. First, the
make, model, and year followed by various
descriptions of the vehicle (naturally from
the vendor’s point of view). Sometimes, an
identification of the owner (as in “one lady
owner”) and possibly a reason (excuse) for
the sale. A price may or may not be added.
But here comes the important part. Because
ads are charged by the word, all of the above
will have been written in coded shorthand.
Here’s how to break the code.
DESCRIPTION OF THE VEHICLE
This section usually comprises the bulk
of the ad and is therefore the most potentially
dangerous. We’ve already seen that it is, of
course, the seller who is describing the car,
and as you’d expect, he or she will be very
careful in choosing praiseworthy features
or more importantly, features that might be
construed to be praiseworthy. The cynic,
however, will be able to learn a lot about the
car, if only by omission. For example, “good
engine” probably means that the gearbox and
rear end are junk. The word “clean” incidentally is frequently misinterpreted as meaning
recently washed; in fact, it refers to the fact
that the car has a rather dubious past but now
wears a false registration. The following are
more of the descriptive codes:
Genuine car - This is a recent code that
still puzzles experts. Safe to assume though
that the item for sale is not a “Tonka” toy or
a cardboard cutout from the back of your
Wheaties box.
Good runner - Don’t expect much here;
after all, how fast can you run?
Fast or Very fast - May not be any
quicker then above, but has no brakes.
Lively - Needs new shocks & springs.
Attracts attention - I keep being stopped
by the police in it.
Restored - Repainted.
Fully restored - Repainted and interior
valeted.
Engine overhaul - New plugs and
points.
Head removed for inspection - This is a
good one! The head was actually taken off to
be decoked and the subsequent loss of vital
parts precipitated the sale.
January 2003
Chassis totally rust free - No steel left at
all. Even the chassis is now fiberglass.
Needs some bodywork - Starting with
floor pans, doors, bonnet,........
Best in country - Marginally better than
the one down the road.
Stored 10 years - Spent the last 10 years
rotting in an orchard.
Much work done - Unfortunately much
more needed.
The owner - It’s always suspicious if the
owner feels a need to identify himself. The
cynic understands this underhanded ploy as
a device to detract attention from the car;
after all, it’s the car we are considering
purchasing, not its owner. “Titled owner”
used to be popular, though I have no idea
why. The mere suggestion that some chinless
Lord Hooray Herbert might have thrashed
the car around foxhunts should be enough
to put one off.
Lady owner - Be very wary. If she’s married, the car will have been totally neglected
in favor of hubby’s flashier and more modern
model. If she’s single, chances are that repairs have been butchered by a succession
of eager would be boyfriends.
One elderly owner - This car has spent
its entire life in second gear with the choke
full out.
Enthusiast maintained - Has been
worked on solely by an impetuous amateur
with little or no mechanical ability.
Club member - Very dangerous! Don’t
ever be tempted! The assumption can only be
that having joined the club, the vendor now
realizes how truly dreadful his particular
example really is.
REASONS FOR SELLING
Where given, a reason for sale is presumably intended for inspiring confidence. But
the cynic, knowing full well that most of us
sell a car because we want a change, smells
a rat. In particular, beware of the
unspecified “genuine reason for sale”. A
blown head gasket is a very genuine reason
for sale.
Finances forces sale - The damn thing
has driven him to the very edge of insolvency.
Marriage forces sale - His bride wouldn’t
be caught dead in it.
Company car forces sale - This appears
innocuous enough until we remember that
the company will be paying all the run-
ning costs of the extra. The only plausible
explanation is that having driven a new car
for the first time, our advertiser has belatedly learned about things like comfort, fuel
economy, reliability, and electric windows.
So don’t expect any of those from the car
for sale.
Re-advertised due to time waster -Whoever last viewed the car recognized it for the
piece of sh*t it really is!
Sale due to bereavement - This one is
sad. The late owner saw the last estimate for
repairs and suffered a heart attack.
FINALLY, THE PRICE
It’s absolutely essential to realize that the
price of a car has nothing to do with the car,
its condition or even the value. The basic law
of supply and demand, in fact, fixes price.
If you are supplying (i.e., selling), then the
car is priceless. If, on the other hand, you
are demanding (i.e., buying), then the car is
worthless. Once understood, this basic rule
of the market place explains why the car that
the dealer could only offer you $1,000 for
(“can’t move’em John, that’s the truth”) is
now in his showroom for $10,000. As far as
the classified ad is concerned, where a price
is stated, no further comment is needed. It’ll
even make a novice fall about laughing. The
problems arise when no price is mentioned.
It can be a very disconcerting experience
to answer an ad reading “reasonable offer”,
with what one actually believes to be an reasonable offer, only to have the seller make
unfounded allegations about one’s mother
and personal habits before hanging up. To
guard against this, the following guidelines
are given:
Offers - Think of a local telephone
number.
Sensible Offers - Think of a national
telephone number.
I’m confident that this guide, when followed carefully, will help the inexperienced
buyer avoid the worst pitfalls inherent in
choosing an older car through the classified
ads. It must be stressed though that the vast
majority of advertisers have no intention
whatsoever of misrepresenting the vehicle
they’re offering for sale. In fact, I myself am
currently trying to part with a classic ‘76
Stag, lively, good runner, enthusiast maintained, engine overhauled, genuine reason
for sale. Sensible offers accepted..........
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Understanding & Using
the FieroPride BBS
by
Eric Schneck
By now I’m sure that you’ve heard the buzz - FieroPride has a new online BBS. The BBS is a joint venture by the webmasters of both MAFOA
and NEFA. We are proud to bring you the fastest BBS available using
the latest technology. (For those geeky network types, the BBS runs on
a mySQL version 3.23.53 database backbone with a PHP version 4 front
end. And yes - *everything* is run on an Apache web server.) “So how do
I join in on the fun?” you ask. Follow these simple steps and you’ll be a
posting fool in no time at all! First, navigate to http://www.fieropride.com/
phpBB2. It’s important that you use capitals or else you’ll get a 404 error!
(See example 1)
Until you create an account and login, you will only be able to read the
topics. You will not be able to post replies, start new topics, see the photo
album, or view the memberlist. So click that “Register” button if you haven’t
already done so and fill out the info. Because the FieroPride BBS is a closed
BBS, your account needs to be approved by an Administrator. We get an
email, check to see that you are a member in good standing, and approve
you *usually* within 24 hours. Once you have been approved, click the
“Login” option and fill in your user name and password. You’ll notice that
the Index screen will change and show more options. (See example 2)
There are a LOT of options with the BBS - so many that to list them all
here would take up an entire newsletter, so I’m going to touch on only a
few of them here. I encourage everyone to poke around the BBS and test it
out. You can’t hurt it by simply browsing, and no change is ever permanent
until you click a “Submit” button. (Even then a quick note to Bob Schlag
or myself explaining what happened and how you want it changed will
take care of things.) First thing to explain is the structure of the BBS. The
BBS consists of Categories, Forums, Topics and Posts, in that order. On
the BBS, these are as follows, and all are subject to change at any time:
(NOTE: Only general categories are shown. BOD areas are private, and
as such are not listed)
* Categories (dark grey bands) - Announcements, Chat, Technical Help
& Tips, Events, Classifieds, and BBS Related
* Forums (light grey bands) - Now Read This, Fiero, General Automotive Stuff, Everything Else, etc.
* Topics (light grey bands under Forums) - These change so often they
are not listed
* Posts (or Messages) - Again, these change so they are not listed
If the BBS were put into a flow chart, it would look like this: (See
example 3)
Messages can be “Regular”, “Sticky”, or “Announcements”. (Only
Administrators can make Announcements.) “Sticky” posts remain at the
top - no bumping necessary. (See below) Also, when you post a message
you can add a Poll if you’d like. You are also given the opportunity (as
does anyone replying to a post) to have an email sent to you whenever
someone replies to your post. This can be stopped at anytime by going to
the post and scrolling down to the bottom of the page and selecting “Stop
watching this post” from the lower left corner. All posts get a flag next to
them that designates if they are “New”, “New (Popular)” or “Locked”,
meaning that no further posts in that Message are allowed. New posts also
have a small flag near them on the Forum. Clicking this flag will take you
directly to the last post. (FYI: A good rule of thumb with this BBS is that
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Examples 1 & 2
Example 3
Example 4
90% of it is “mouse friendly”, meaning that there are a
lot of clickable links. Please feel free to test everything
out). (See example 4)
New additions to the BBS are happening all the time,
such as the Photo Album (available at the header of every
page), the “Print Topic” and “Email This Page” options.
We are currently working on a Calendar for the Events
areas and hope to have this online by the time you read
this. So, we hope to see you on the BBS soon, and we
welcome your comments, suggestions, and of course
complaints. : )
January 2003
“Static Fires” at
the Gas Pumps
Article found on the Pride email list
Maybe not exactly Fiero related but we all
know how we feel about Fieros and Fires. Let’s
be careful out there.
Bob Penke’s Petroleum Equipment Institute
is working on a campaign to try and make people
aware of fires as a result of “static” at gas pumps.
His company has researched 150 cases. His results
were very surprising:
1) Out of 150 cases, almost all involved women.
2) Almost all cases involved the person getting
back into their vehicle while the nozzle was
pumping gas. When finished and the person
went back to pull the nozzle out, the fire started
as a result of static.
3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
4) Most men do not get back in their vehicle until
pumping is completed. This is why they are
seldom involved in these types of fires.
5) Don’t ever use cell phones while pumping
gas.
6) The vapors that come out of the gas cause the
fire when connected with static charges.
7) There were 29 fires, involving a variety of
makes and models, where the vehicle was reentered and then the nozzle was touched during refueling. Some of these fires resulted in
extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station,
and to the customer.
8) Seventeen fires occurred before, during or immediately after the gas cap was removed and
before fueling began.
Mr. Renkes stresses that you should NEVER
get back into your vehicle while filling it with gas.
If you absolutely HAVE to get back into your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get
out, close the door, and TOUCH THE METAL first
before you ever pull the nozzle out. This way the
static from your body will be discharged before
you ever remove the nozzle.
As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies
are trying to make the public aware of this danger.
You can find out more information by going to
http://www.pei.org. Once there, click in the center
of the screen where it says “Stop Static”.
I ask you to please send this information to
ALL your family and friends, especially those
who have kids and leave them in the car while
pumping gas. If a “Static Fire” was to happen to
them, they might not be able to get the children
out in time.
Thanks for passing this along.
January 2003
How Bob Ricci
Got Into Fieros
by Bob Ricci,
Spotswood, N.J.
Well, I guess it goes back to the mid 80’s when an old friend’s dad bought
a new Fiero. That was twenty years ago. All I kind of remember was that it
was silver, had speakers in the headrests, and the coolest thing, the engine
was in the back. Wow...cool! We went for a ride and I thought the car was
neat. But I’m a Ford guy, a Mustang guy that is. I once had a 1969 351
Cleveland Mach 1 Mustang and if anything ever would replace it, it would
have to be a 5.0 ‘Stang. Mind you, the Mach 1 was long gone.
Time goes on with marriage, house, kids, in that order, and years of
responsible hard work making ends meet.
Now comes the new millennium and the good Lord puts some spare
change in my pockets. I figure years of working entitles me to a new toy.
What’s the first thing that comes to my mind? A Pontiac Fiero? Yes, a
Pontiac Fiero. I looked into the Internet, AutoTrader, a few other things,
and decided to look at a GT in southern Jersey. When I finally found one,
I went down to drive her. My first time behind the wheel of a Fiero, nonetheless a 4 speed GT, 86 I believe. Within three minutes I thought this was
the greatest ride I ever drove! What a FUN CAR! I’d need 100,000 extra
dollars to get any other mid-engine sports car. The electrics were acting up
so I didn’t buy this particular one, but within a few weeks I was the proud
owner of my first Fiero, a black 1986 GT 4 speed. I was absolutely hooked
on this car. My Harley Davidson Low Rider I had owned for 21 years was
sold so I could get totally in the Fiero scene. Hours on the Internet educated
me more on this exciting vehicle.
Then I met all you guys. What a nice group of people sharing a similar,
somewhat unusual (with all respect), interest. I saw a kind of “family” I
definitely wanted to be part of. This is a major compliment to the car itself.
Pleasant people, pleasant times, pleasant vocabulary, and pleasant memories. The story goes on and I hope and believe it will continue.
Lookin’ forward to seein’ ya’ all soon.
KICK HILL FARM
Fiero Parts
www.kickhill.com
860-642-4362
Fax 860-642-7107
464 Kick Hill Road, Lebanon, CT 06249
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Winners - Fieros At Carlisle 2002
Factory Stock (FS)
1st John Scone of Kennett Square, PA........... White 1988 Fiero GT
2nd Charles McManus of Hanover, PA ............ White 1987 Fiero GT
3rd Michele Ruscoe of Danbury, CT.............Red 1985 Fiero Coupe
Stock Notchback - 84-86 (SNA)
1st
Jim Gilbert of Oley, PA............................. Black 1985 Fiero GT
2nd Jason Crego of Martville, NY .......................Red 1986 Fiero SE
3rd A.C. Dobson of Himrod, NY............ Faded Gold 1986 Fiero SE
Stock Notchback - 87-88 (SNB)
1st
Bob Carlson of Virginia Beach, VA..... White 1988 Fiero Coupe
2nd Charlie Bond of Levittown, PA ............Red 1988 Fiero Formula
3rd Steve Payne of Damascus, MD .............Blue 1988 Fiero Coupe
Stock Fastback - 86-87 (SFA)
1st
Frank Cook of Mt. Airy, MD Burgundy .............. 1987 Fiero GT
2nd Tom Derr of Mechanicsburg, PA ........... Maroon 1986 Fiero GT
3rd Jeffrey DeDay of Selinsgrove, PA... Med Red Met. 1987 Fiero GT
Stock Fastback - 1988 (SFB)
1st
Veronica Houck of Akron, PA ................... White 1988 Fiero GT
2nd Mark Hoagland of Bangor, PA ................ Yellow 1988 Fiero GT
3rd John Cristanpo of Syosset, NY ................... Red 1988 Fiero GT
Custom Notchback (CN)
1st
Jennifer Gilbert of Oley, PA ............ Cobalt Blue 1985 Fiero GT
2nd Dennis Lambert of Leola, PA.. Silver/Metallic Blue 1986 Fiero SE
3rd Randy Agee of Mechanicsville, VA..... Red 1988 Fiero Formula
Custom Fastback (CF)
1st
Bob Schlag of Dover, PA ............................ Red! 1986 Fiero GT
2nd Larry Wheeler of Spencerport, NY............ White 1988 Fiero GT
3rd Dave Bond of Levittown, PA...............Black/Red 1986 Fiero GT
Modified Fastback (MF)
1st
David Horst of Akron, PA ............................ Red 1988 Fiero GT
2nd Bill Sessions of Waldorf, MD.................. Purple 1988 Fiero GT
3rd Rick Myers of Pittsgrove, NJ...................... Red 1988 Fiero GT
Modified Notchback (MN)
1st
Earl Sessions of Waldorf, MD ........... Bright Red 1985 Fiero SE
2nd Archie Archumbalt of Barrington, IL..... Yellow 1987 Fiero Cpe
3rd Philip Randolph of Coventry, RI .....Yellow 1988 Fiero Formula
High Mileage Notchback (HMN)
1st
Anthony & Lori Cook of Lunenburg, NS
................................................. Intense Blue 1985 Fiero Coupe
2nd Robert Ruscoe of Danbury, CT............Silver 1987 Fiero Coupe
3rd Ralph Nasatka of Macungie, PA ..........Red 1988 Fiero Formula
High Mileage Fastback (HMF)
1st
Jamie Gilbert of Oley, PA ........................... Red 1986 Fiero GT
2nd Robin Gowers of Pittsburgh, PA................. Red 1988 Fiero GT
3rd Don and Lori Haag of Carlisle, PA ..Med. Red Met. 1987 Fiero GT
Rebodied (RB)
1st
David Ivaldi of Palisades Park, NJ .............. Red 1986 Fiero SE
2nd Roger Garrison of Reynoldsburg, OH.... Red 1986 Fiero Ferrari
3rd Ken Evanson of Yorktown, VA ................ primer 1985 Fiero GT
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Special Awards
Best Stock Paint
Barb Jannetty..................................................... Silver 87 Fiero Coupe
Best Custom Paint
Earl Sessions.................................... Red 85 Fiero Coupe with Flames
Best Display
Earl Sessions.................................... Red 85 Fiero Coupe with Flames
Best Interior
Phil Randolph................................................ Yellow 88 Fiero Formula
Best Wheels
Josh Bumpus........................................................ Red 88 Fiero Coupe
Best Conversion
Dave Horst.................. Red 88 Fiero GT w/ Supercharged 3800 Engine
Best Engineered
Dave Horst.................. Red 88 Fiero GT w/ Supercharged 3800 Engine
Best Stock Engine
Mark Hoagland ...................................................... Yellow 88 Fiero GT
Under Construction
Clint Nichols............................................................ Black 87 Fiero GT
Dirtiest Interior
Bill Behret.................................................................. Red 86 Fiero GT
Dirtiest Wheels
Eric Schneck........................................................... Yellow 88 Fiero GT
Hard Luck
Mark Webber ........................................................ White 84 Fiero Indy
Fire on the way, luggage was burnt.
Longest Distance
Anthony Cook...................................... Intense Blue 1985 Fiero Coupe
2200 miles, from Nova Scotia!
Highest Mileage
Harry Waggoner....................................................... White 85 Fiero GT
290,000 miles!
January 2003
NEFA Members attend
R.I. POCI Show
Submitted by
Gwen Randolph - Recorder
June 2, 2002 was the date last year for the annual RI Chapter of P.O.C.I.
show at Fiore Pontiac in Warwick, RI. In 2001 NEFA won the club participation
award at this show, but last year NEFA was represented by only three cars. The
Fiero bug was still keeping several members’ cars down, with Phil’s yellow car
the latest casualty.
Even though we did not have a car to enter (mine was still in the paint shop
on June 2) we drove over to give our support to our fellow NEFA members. Phil
& I had expected to enter two cars in the show this year as we live about fifteen
minutes from Fiore Pontiac (or as Fiero people who saw the trophies in 2001
say, “Boy they don’t know how to spell Fiero”), but it wasn’t to be. The day was
warm & sunny with the lot filled with Pontiacs & Oaklands of all years. Bruce
Palmer from B 101, a radio station in Providence, RI, was the DJ who held court
all day playing oldies. He is quite the celebrity in RI and hosts some of the big
cruise nights in our state.
When the Fiero class awards were announced it was Josh Bumpus taking 1st
place with his Red Coupe and Jody Lemos taking 3rd place with his red GT.
The small NEFA group finished the day enjoying ice cream at a nearby ice
cream shop. While eating our sundaes, we talked about how sorry we all were that
so many NEFA members’ cars were ailing, but that the show season was just starting and hopefully all the ailing cars would be up and taking nourishment soon.
...and also attend
FOCONE’s fall show
Also submitted by
Gwen Randolph
Recorder
Summer was over replaced by those beautifully warm days of early fall that
are so enjoyable in New England. The car show season was winding down and
that meant the fall FOCONE show in Rutland, MA was scheduled on the calendar.
Sunday, September 29, 2002 was one of those warm days drawing between 35
- 40 Fieros out to enjoy the day with most of the classes well represented.
NEFA members stepped forward when it came time for the trophies.
• Gregory Murad -1st place in the 1984 class.
• Tina Chadbourn, a new member, - lst place and Bob Rusco - 2nd place in the
1985 class. If I remember correctly every 1985 in the class was silver.
• Andrew & Lisa Virsi -1st place with their silver Fiero in the 1986 class.
• And not to be outdone, Barbara Janetty - 2nd place with, you guessed it, her
silver Fiero in the 1987 class. It was definitely a good day for silver Fieros.
• My T-top, every day driver, coupe - 1st place in the 1988 class.
• Jody Lemos - 2nd place in the custom class with his 1986 GT.
When the final two trophies were given out I was quite surprised and pleased
to hear my name called out again as the recipient of the President’s trophy. It’s
nice to know that someone else likes my little T-top. For those NEFA members
who for one reason or another were not able to attend, we all missed you.
The Rutland show always ends early in the afternoon with a cruise to Bob
Parker’s Kick Hill Farm for Fiero shopping in his large barn. If you need a part,
Bob probably has it and will gladly direct you to the exact location where you
can find it. This year approximately twenty Fieros made the cruise to Bob’s in
Lebanon, CT, which, of course, made heads turn as we all drove along the highway. Pizza and brownies, good conversation, and parts shopping at Kick Hill
Farm made for the end of a most enjoyable day.
January 2003
FOCONE announces
Summer 2003 Show
If you want to spend a nice Summer in
New England Car Show weekend this summer,
NEFA is passing along this information about
nearby motel accommodations. FOCONE’s
summer show will be held in Wells, Maine June
20-22, 2003 and not in Old Orchard Beach,
Maine, their previous summer show location.
For those not familiar with the Maine coast, it’s
a must see destination. Adding a car show into
the mix just makes the weekend much better.
FOCONE’s 8th Annual
Summer Fiero Show
Motel info for the Wells, Maine
Summer Show, June 20 - 22, 2003.
We have been able to get a commitment from the
owner of the motel directly across from the Wells Auto
Museum for a discount to club members who attend
the meet next summer.
The “Bayview Motel” is located at 1162 Post Rd.,
Wells, Maine just across the street from the Museum.
They will honor a club discount at $55.00 per night for
one queen bed and $65.00 per night for two doubles.
The discount will be extended to club members for
reservations made prior to May 1, 2003; thereafter,
normal seasonal rates will apply ($70 and higher). No
rooms blocked out, so all accommodations available
on a first come basis. Tel. No. 1-207-646-8931.
Members should mention the club rate/discount for
Fiero Owners Club of New England as authorized by
Owner Mike McDermott when making their reservations for June 20 / 21 / 22.
The following are alternative accommodations close
by on Post Rd. (Route 1) for those interested in doing
some comparison shopping:
New Harbor View Cottages, 1061 Post Rd.,
207-646-3356
Belle of Maine Vacation Village, Post Rd.,
1-800-943-5222;
www.wellsmaine.com/bellofmaine
Water Crest, Post Rd., 1-800-847-4693
Seagull Motor Inn, Post Rd.,
207-646-5164; www.seagullvacations.com
Sleepytown, Post Rd.,
207-646-5545; www.sleepytown.com
(Request their “Flings Rate” for best value - two-night min.) Note:
this one is a couple miles from the Museum, but adjacent to a
strip of antique shops for anyone interested in poking around
in the shops
Nearby national chain motel:
Super 8 Motel, Rte 109, Sanford, Tel. No. 207324-8823, 888-800-8000 (West of the Turnpike
Exit, while all others are East on Route 1 which is
also Post Rd.)
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CLASSIFIED ADVERTISING
FIEROS FOR SALE
WHITE 1986 FIERO 2M4 COUPE
Original Owner, Pristine Condition, 83000
miles, White Exterior w/ beige Interior, 5-speed
Getrag Manual Transmission, A/C, Tilt Wheel.
Too good to be true. Asking $2500 OBO. George,
Florida. [email protected] (10-24-02)
RED 1987 FIERO GT
V6 Auto Trans, Red / Gray Inter., Loaded, Air,
Sun Roof, Power Everything, Orig Owner, Runs
Good, Current Inspection, 99,000 miles. Good
Buy at $3,000. Contact Bob. [email protected]
703-318-7595 Herndon, VA (10-24-02)
RED 1984 FIERO SE
151ci 4-cyl / 4-spd, Red with tan interior, 103K
miles, one owner car originally from CA. Everything works but AC. $3800/OBO 563-260-5721
[email protected] (10-24-02)
RED 1988 FIERO GT
New Bright Red Paint with Tan Interior, Very
Rare Factory T-Top #96, V6-Auto, A/C, P/B,
Cruise, AM/FM/CD, Leather. 97,000 Miles.
Just Installed 3800 Engine, 4-speed Automatic Trans., New Tires and Brakes. $5000.
[email protected] 631-744-2562 (after 6:
00 PM ET) (10-24-02)
RED 1988 FIERO
4-cyl, 5-speed, 95,600 miles, T Tops, Tint,
Great Condition , 1 Owner (bought new with 6
miles), New Tires, New paint job, T Tops (rare
on Fieros and done by the factory), Totally new
air conditioner, converted to R-134 and blows
ice cold. New Battery, Water Pump, Valve Job.
Brakes done a little over a year ago. Recent
headlight motors replaced. This vehicle was
driven daily by a female driver. Purchased a
new vehicle is our reason for selling. $2,850
of best offer. Call and leave number, state that
you are calling about the car and we will return
your call. 813-265-7004 [email protected]
(10-24-02)
RED 1988 FIERO
4-cyl, 5-speed, 160,000 miles, $500, or willing to sell good transmission (around 40k
on tranny). Contact Charlie (636) 379-2096
[email protected] (10-24-02)
RED 1987 FIERO GT
V6, Automatic, sun roof, power everything,
98,000, one owner, red with gray interior. Runs
good, current inspection. $3000.00 OBO. 703318-7595 [email protected] (9-8-02)
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1985 & 1984 FIERO
1985 SE 2M4 White in good condition
inside and out. Has 4 new Goodyear Tires
- 215/60/14 (Front) 235/60/14 (Rear). Has
headlight mods. http://www.goeaston.net/
~mirage/Pictures.html. I also have a 1984 SE
2M4 Manual Red and White parts car. Asking
$1000.00 BOTH Cars. (9-24-02)
RED 1984 FIERO
One owner, 2.4L engine, bored out with mild cam,
Holley throttle body, Edelbrock intake manifold,
Holley valve cover and air cleaner. 4-spd transmission, PW, New brake lines. Interior in good
condition. 30,000 miles on engine,135,000 on
car. $2000 or best offer. Call 410-442-1587 or
email [email protected]. (8-22-02)
1986 1/2 FIERO GT
Red with grey interior, 5 spd, V-6, cruise, AC,
AM/FM/CD, premium sound (factory), power
locks and windows, removable sunroof, 92K
miles, 40K miles on engine and clutch, 11/03
inspection, original adult owner, service records,
EXCEPTIONAL condition! asking $5,000. Bill,
Exton, PA 610-524-0626 [email protected]
(9-24-02)
RED 1988 FIERO
Hello from Indianapolis, IN!!! My name is Jan
Lynn and I have a 1988 RED Fiero for sale. It is
a 4cyl. automatic with 124,000 k on the body,
but it has a reconditioned engine with only
60,000 k that was dropped into it in 2001. I
have been the owner for the past 10 years. It has
a sunroof, luggage rack, great heater, defroster,
tilt steering, and relatively new tires and battery.
It would definitely be a good car for someone
who is interested in restorations. The body is
in good shape, although one recessed light, the
a/c, cruise control, and paint job need some
attention. Willing to part with my car for $1100
or best offer. Call me at 317-876-4645 for more
information. (8-7-02)
GOLD 1986 FIERO SE
1986 Fiero GT (sic), 190,000 miles. Fair condition, needs TLC. Has new Parking Brake Cables.
Tan interior, good condition. Body good, small
crack in one fender, paint faded. Includes black
wing. Automatic transmission, works great. Engine runs good, has exhaust leak at manifold.
Call 717-292-4470. Located in Dover, PA. Asking $1000 OBO. (9-8-02)
RED 1987 FIERO GT
118k actual. Engine replaced at about 90k. 5 sp
Getrag, Bright Red/Silver. Most options including sub woofer system. New clutch at 115k plus
complete suspension rebuild including struts,
shocks, bushings, ball joints, etc. Plus: lots of
Fiero parts for sale. For more details call Randy
at 540-434-2646 or email [email protected]
(9-5-02)
BLACK 1986 FIERO GT
Silver ground effects, V6 2.8L, 4 speed manual
trans., under 29,000 Original miles, new tires,
new belts and hoses, power door locks, power
windows, sunroof (does not leak), new paint,
current VA inspection, excellent condition inside and out. $4500.00 or best offer.
(540) 743-6768 Leave Message if no answer.
[email protected] (9-3-02)
1988 FIERO GT
V6 Automatic. Good shape 130k. New flow
exhaust system. New struts, new shocks, new
rear wheel bearings. Poly bushing in suspension. A/C just charged. New front brakes, new
front tires. $3500 car is in New York State. email
Tony. [email protected] (9-3-02)
1986 FIERO GT
V6, automatic, 167,000 miles, every option
including Factory Sunroof, too many new parts
to list including new paint. Asking $1995.00
obo. For more info e-mail [email protected]
or call 610-524-7932. (8-7-02)
1984 INDY FIERO
I have a 84 Indy Fiero for sale and would like
to sell it to some one that would take good care
of it . 1984 Indy car one owner 14k miles. Lost
garage, has never seen salt or snow. perfect
original car. [email protected] (8-7-02)
WHITE 1986 FIERO GT
4-speed, new exhaust cats, back needs exhaust
manifold and battery, has spoiler. My name is
Rita. The car is located in Camden, NJ, my
phone number is 856-963-0650. I don’t have
e-mail but I can also be reached at 856-2362292. $1500 or best offer (7-14-02)
WHITE 1985 FIERO 2M4
Auto, sunroof, tilt, int wipers, Fiero Store floor
mats, power trunk, rear defrost interior is great.
Viper starter/security, K&N filter, polyurethane
dogbone, garaged half the year. Pick up only, will
not deliver. $2750(cdn) firm. If you would like
to see pics or have any questions, e-mail me at
[email protected] (7-14-02)
January 2003
CLASSIFIED ADVERTISING
RED 1985 FIERO GT
Excellent condition, V-6 auto, ac, sunroof, red in
color. 86,000 miles. Never in snow. Oil changed
every 3000 miles. Price $3500 or obo. 330-4882283 [email protected] (7-14-02)
FIERO PARTS FOR SALE
RED 1985 FIERO GT
Lot of Fiero parts for sale. Headlight Motors,
Newly Rebuild 2.5 liter head, Gray Door Panels,
Sunroof Wind Deflector, Sunroof Glass, Brake
Booster, etc. Email me - I may have what you
need.
[email protected] (10-24-02)
TIRES FOR SALE:
4 Michelin MXV 205 70 R 14; 4 Michelin MX4
215 65 R 16. Located in Central New Jersey.
Tires in good shape, $50 for either set. Contact
[email protected] (8/7/2002)
PARTS FOR 1984 PONTIAC FIERO
Some body parts including fenders, factory spoiler and sunroof glass. Many
interior parts. Too much to list. E-mail at
[email protected] for specific parts
needed and prices. (6/16/2002)
MIRROR CONTROL REPAIR PLATE
Reinforcement backing plate repairs broken-out
remote control bezel on driver’s door mirror. Kit
includes instructions, plate, and extra bezel nut,
and two extra door panel clips. $8.55 with shipping. Call Tom Derr 717-772-2611(w) or 717763-5748(h). [email protected]
PARTS FOR SALE
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radiators in the nation. We sell over 300,000
radiators a year. Because of this, we are able
to keep prices down lower than anyone else.
We have a 110% price guarantee, lifetime warranty, and free shipping (next day if orders are
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FIEROS WANTED
WHITE 1986 FIERO GT
WTB: 1987-88 GT Fiero, under 100k miles, 5
speed, up to 5000K, Must be within 200 miles of
Virginia. Contact Karl at [email protected]
FREYSINGER PONTIAC
6251 Carlisle Pike
Mechanicsburg, PA 17056
(717) 766-8422
(800) 560-8422
Your Central Pennsylvania
Fiero Headquarters
CLUB MEMBERS
Bring this ad in and receive 10% off
parts and labor on all Fiero Service.
(Present at time of write-up)
January 2003
DUST COVER, GM, SPECIFIC FOR FIERO
only used on my Indy Fiero, $50. Showroom
model year literature and color / trim folders,
primarily ‘84 to ‘86, most about $10 each.
Gerson M. Goldberg, [email protected] or
(401)254-5151
Ads in this issue were picked up from
the club website. Ads are free for current
members and will run as long as they remain
online unless otherwise requested. Contact
Wes Williams, MAFOA or Gwen Randolph,
NEFA (see pages 2 & 3 for addresses) – if
you want an ad that's not going online.
The
MAFOA
toolbox
by Bob Schlag
The MAFOA toolbox now consists
of a Brake Repair Kit, an Engine
Hanger, a Rivet Tool, a Steering
Wheel Puller, a lock plate remover,
a Suspension Bushing Removal
and Installation Tool, and a Scan
Tool. All tools include operating
manuals.
We also now have a Cruise
Control Tester, donated by Bob
Nielsen.
The most recent addition is a
dolly, with wheels, to support a
Fiero frame while the cradle is
removed. This was donated by
Paul Stevens.
Loan policy states that the
member sends us a deposit for the
value of the tool. We will hold the
check until the tool is returned. The
member is responsible for paying
any postage for shipping.
Contact MAFOA for details and
availability of tools, as well as suggestions for additional tools.
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PO Box 27
East Greenwich RI 02818
Rainy Dayz @ Carlisle 2002
Submitted by Jennifer Gilbert
My trip to Fieros at Carlisle 2002
should actually be titled “How the Blue
Demon almost got its way,” however I
thought that title might have been too disheartening. I guess what I’m trying to say
is that my Carlisle story began way back
in June of 2001....
Last June I purchased a severely abused
85GT that really turned out to be a diamond
in the rough. We started work on the car
at the end of December with the goal of
having the car ready for Daytona. It turned
out that we decided to get into the project
even further than originally planned (story
to be told in a later issue!) and the deadline
was now placed on Carlisle.
Of course things seemed to be rolling
along okay, despite the fact that I was going
through student teaching and the project
was still growing by the day.
Then, of course, the trouble started. Little things began going wrong and started to
push our completion date closer and closer
to Carlisle. The motor was finally in about
2 weeks before but unfortunately we had
to re-pull it and make some adjustments.
Finally about 4 days before Carlisle it was
on the road and ready for tires, inspection
and alignment. It still needed a lot of major
things done before Saturday but one could
expect that the alignment and tires would
go smoothly right? Of course as things
would go, they didn’t and we didn’t get the
car really on the road until Friday.
Friday night was spent putting the
finishing touches on the car. Along with the
many people who were hanging out at an
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informal pre-Carlisle party, my dad, Dave the rest of our group and learned that Dad
Berkey, and I worked on my car until late had gone off to sleep in the truck.
that night. We encountered a ton of hang
The awards presentation quickly flew
ups along the way including getting the to Custom Notchback, which was my
trunk lid stuck on the car because the lock class. As they went though the third and
had a piece of newspaper in it leftover from second place awards I stood holding my
the painting project the day before (now breath. Denny Lambert’s awesome car
come on it’s not like we were working last placed second and I was convinced that
minute or anything, right?). By midnight one of the other really great cars in my
or maybe later (I can’t remember, I was so class had won.
tired!) I finally decided to go to bed. Dave
Imagine my total surprise when they
was supposed to go to bed but ended up called my name! Unfortunately Dad was
staying up all night and cleaning my car (I napping at the time, but I was ecstatic.
had given up on waxing it due to the ugly Missing my graduation for Carlisle was
weather). It was awesome to wake up the certainly a good idea. Trophies were
next morning to see my car looking like handed out soon after that for Stock
a million bucks! We pulled off the front Notchback and Dad managed to capture
wheels that morning, painted the calipers first as well. I accepted his trophy for him
and set off down the road.
and then went and woke him up in the truck
Of course the trip couldn’t go smoothly. with the news. He made it back just in time
Nearly 5 minutes from my house the car’s to see Jamie accept her first place for High
lights started flickering and sure enough it Mileage Fastback. It was certainly a banner
soon died. Thankfully we found a bridge day for our family and many of our friends
to coast under and a quick diagnosis by dad who did very well with their cars too.
was that the alternator belt had loosened
Like every Fiero show though, the best
up. He took the blame and set off to get part of Carlisle wasn’t the trophies. It was
a jack. After much wet grumbling it was seeing all of our friends from all over the
soon fixed and away we went.
country and the world who came together
We rolled into muddy Carlisle just be- for a day of Fiero fun. It was good to see
fore check-in time was over. Our “team” people like AusFiero (who surprise, surquickly set about cleaning the cars. After prise - came from Australia!) and other
much muddy work we finally decided that people whom we had known only from
things were as good as they were going to the online world. It was also good to see
get. We decided to walk around and enjoy old friends, as well as the great effort put
the show.
forth for the show.
The afternoon flew by and soon it was
Thanks to everyone who helped out! I
time for awards. After helping out with the can’t wait until next year!
Something Differraffle and other things, Jamie and I found
ent
January 2003