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ROUNDTABL E You don’t know what you don’t know about millennials. Kids Today What is your favorite insight into millennials? A R oundtable F eaturing Rob Lynch Arby’s Lisa Baird The United States Olympic Committee Rob Lynch: With millennials, you can’t create brand superiority or differentiation where it doesn’t exist. When I started my career at Procter & Gamble, my job was to create superiority where there was none. It’s easy to market a product when it has a specific attribute that is better, different, or unique. It’s tougher when you’re marketing paper towels and they look just like all the other paper towels. Access to information forces Fisher-Price Dee Mc Laughlin Forever 21 Capital One Geoff Walker: At Fisher-Price, we appreciate many aspects of their lifestyle values, but the one that really stands out is how they value ‘meaning.’ Millennials are in touch with what they want, how they want to live, and how they want to be treated. This is more true of millennials than of any other generation. This has really inspired us and impacted the way we do business. Access to information forces marketers to be more disciplined about actually delivering on their promises. Geoff Walker Sherri Gilligan conversation we have around the Olympics shows that they really ascribe to the purpose, mission and values of the Olympics in a real, authentic way. ROB LY NC H marketers to be more disciplined about actually delivering on their promises. Brands that are trying to reach millennials can’t be successful over the long-term without authenticity and transparency. This consumer group is just too savvy and has too much information. It has caused us to re-look at our brand promise. Quite frankly, it has made us better because we were really a genX-targeted company that has been moving towards a millennial-targeted company. We have to be able to add value to their lives. Lisa Baird: I’m always incredibly gratified and appreciative to find out how genuine their values are. We certainly see this amplified because of our brand. The Dee Mc Laughlin: My very favorite insight is their creative energy. When you think about the YouTube stars, the ‘maker’ revolution, Pinterest — millennials 16 THE HUB MAY/JUNE 2015 are such great creators and they want to create with brands they love. At Forever 21, we have close to 6 million fans on Instagram, where we co-create with our millennial customers. It’s mostly user-generated content, and it really humanizes our brand by connecting with them at that level. It helps validate their style choices, and certainly adds a very personal touch to our posts, as well. Sherri Gilligan: My favorite insight is that millennials have embraced their individuality more than any other generation. Because of the financial challenges of recent years, they are slower to get married and buy homes — but they do intend to reach those milestones. They just tend to question the traditional pathway because they are developing their own lifestyles and identities. That emphasis on individuality carries through into how they define success, which is not the same as how those who are older define success. It’s more about being in control of their lives, but also spending more time on experiences like travel, entertainment, restaurants and such. The real insight is that we need to respect their uniqueness as individuals. In fact, it’s kind of ironic that we try to clump them into one group. Millennials really want us to embrace them as individuals and not label them as a group. This is influencing all of Corporate America to embrace everyone as individuals and not labels. I love that. Are millennials harder to understand than other consumers? Lynch: I don’t believe that any particular consumer group is that different from any other. I believe that they may have unique experiences, or are in an environment that changes the way they think about things. With millennials, it’s really about understanding how their daily life is different than the daily life of a 40or 50-year-old. It’s about figuring out how those differences affect the way they perceive the world and the way they consume your communications and your products or services. We use the same type of methodologies to learn about millennials as we use with our other customer bases. Baird: There is more texture and depth to understand because of what we know about millennials. They are willing to share a lot that perhaps other generations never will, so there is a lot more to understand and craft into insights that we can address. You have to take that in, and understand how to translate that into marketing. You can’t project that they will move together as a group, either. There are a lot of differences among them. We all grew up with simple insights about boomers, but those old insights don’t apply anymore. They can surprise you. Walker: If we listen, millennials are not hard to understand, but a lot of people don’t want to listen. We really want to know exactly where we stand first-hand and always be listening. The great part about that is that it’s genuine. The feedback is honest; it’s open. If you are willing to listen to that, you can really use it to your advantage. One way we do that at FisherPrice is with a Millennial Board. It’s a group of employees that I have coffee with every month and pick their brains about what is Is it dresses? Is it jeans and a top? What are their fabric choices? What are their dress lengths? We really worked with them — getting at that creative energy and their need and want to co-create. Gilligan: All generations span lifestyles and life stages. No generation should be boxed in, but I If we listen, millennials are not hard to understand, but a lot of people don’t want to listen. GE OF F WA L K E R going on in the world. What they are doing? Where are they living? We talk about new social-media platforms because that landscape changes every couple of months. On the work side, you have to embrace entrepreneurism. They appreciate self-starting more than we do. I think that’s because they watched their parents lose their jobs. So, we created an intrapreurship platform called Mix Faire, where any employee can present concepts or ideas to senior-level executives across any brand or business unit. Mc Laughlin: Millennials are very easy to understand because they are so connected. For millennials, it’s not a question of online or offline; it’s online versus asleep! Connections are super-important to them. They want to be friends with brands that are real and make a contribution to their life. We have instigated consumer panels where we proactively check with them on our next products or services. So, for example, we were wondering about what they wear when they are going out. We have sections of our store with ‘going out’ attire. think millennials really are bound by a notion of optimism and ambition. They are also more connected, and technology is the driving force in their lives. They have access to everything from major news events to what their friends had for breakfast, which is very different from any previous generation. They grew up during a global recession and that’s influenced how quickly they go into new life stages because they really want to make sure that they are in control. This whole notion of sharing is also new — they love great experiences that are sharable. I love millennials. They push us to think differently, just as all younger generations always have. Are millennials more important than other consumers? Lynch: Millennials are particularly relevant for Arby’s because younger guests tend to frequent quick-serve restaurants more often than older guests. The 18-to-35 age group has about a 30 percent higher average frequency than those over age 35. So, our industry has always been very focused on that demographic. 17 MAY/JUNE 2015 THE HUB Millennials are also so important to us because they are a big part of our workforce. Quick-serve restaurants are a great place for young people to get their first job, learn about the value of hard work and the empowerment that comes with earning your own paycheck. We try to make sure that within our products and our communications — as well as within our employee engagement and service models — that we are delivering the coaching, teaching and development that is most relevant to them, as well. Baird: Research has shown us that Americans — across all age groups — love the Olympics and support Team USA, but we do need to emphasize our marketing efforts to develop the next generation of fans. They will be the thought leaders and influencers of tomorrow. A lot of brands try to change what they are because millennials present different marketing challenges. In that sense you could say they are more important, but 30-40 years ago you would have said the same thing about baby boomers. They are complex and hard to figure out, so they occupy a lot of attention among marketers. Walker: For Fisher-Price, millennials are the key. We are a mom-targeted brand, so we start talking to them at minus three months, in their third trimester, until their child is about five years old. Millennials represent about 83 percent of all births around the globe right now, so they are a massive part of who we talk to and how we think. Mc Laughlin: To Forever 21, millennials are most important. I love them because they are so optimistic about the future. The recession really hit them the 18 THE HUB MAY/JUNE 2015 hardest — something like only six in 10 of them have jobs, and that’s including part-time. But they’re generally a very happy generation. They don’t ever limit their imagination and they really feel that technology or ingenuity will overcome everything. I love that you can appeal to their aspirations. Gilligan: At Capital One, all of our customers are very important! Millennials certainly are coveted, the 18-34 demographic is 80 to 90 million strong and spending now to break out of this roast-beef lock and become something more relevant. What we needed was to be more Arby’s. Arby’s was built on delivering superior sandwiches, so we focused on that. At a time when a lot of folks are trying to do a lot of different things to deliver on the most relevant fad of the time, we are saying, “Look, we are a place for big, meaty sandwiches.” That’s what we’ve always been, and that’s what we want to stand for. There is more texture and depth to understand because of what we know about millennials. L ISA BA I R D about $200 billion to $400 billion by 2020. They have influenced the older generations and have made their mark on a lot of places: film, music, and media. In the financial sector, they are open to things like peer-to-peer finance models. We’ve introduced things like a credit tracker app, which enables them to track their credit, which is so important. Tracking their credit helps them get better rates on home or auto loans. That’s huge for them. Have millennials changed your brand story? Lynch: They have. When I arrived at Arby’s 16-months ago, we were known as a roast-beef shop, and yet we had so much more to offer. Our biggest strength, our roast-beef sandwich heritage, was also our biggest hurdle to future growth. To get where we aspire to be, which is a top-five restaurant company in the country, we have That’s the story we are telling, and by staying true to our brand it resonates with milllennials. Baird: The fun part for the Olympics is that we are very committed to building our relationship with millennials socially. This is so gratifying because it’s a two-way conversation. You are genuinely, in real time, engaging with these fans. We’re shaping our brand and who we are in real time. We’ve invented a new, youngerfacing brand called Team USA in concert with the millennial fan base. Team USA represents an ideal that’s much more accessible to Americans, and particularly teams. It’s more than just Olympians. It includes Paralympians and the national teams that are the pipeline for Olympians. That’s one of the reasons we wanted to invest in it. We also recently tweeted the famous Miracle on Ice game between the US and the Soviet Union in Lake Placid on its 35th anniversary. We tweeted it as if it were happening live, and the engagement we got included a broad swath of millennials. It was amazing how thankful they were that we did this and that they were so interested in it. It really was a transcendent event and now millennials have their own memory of it, as if they were there. Walker: Our brand story at FisherPrice has always been about early childhood development. That’s the principle the company was founded on 84 years ago. The founders set out to transform the toy industry by focusing on enriching the lives of families with young children through developmentally appropriate play. In recent years, we moved away from that core purpose, but millennials have forced us to be more holistic and consistent in the way we play our role. Clarity and upping the emotional quotient, in traditional or social spaces, has brought new passion to what we’re saying about supporting a child’s unique individual potential. To help us tell our story, we were also looking for someone who lived the same principles we do. We signed a partnership with Shakira at the end of last year. A lot of colleagues looked at me and said, “Why Shakira — she’s a music artist?” Well, Shakira also has a one-year-old son. We wanted her for her ‘mom side’ and linking that mom side to her Barefoot Foundation, which is all about building schools for disadvantaged children in Latin America. She’s resonated extremely well with millennial parents around the world. Mc Laughlin: We have changed our story over the last year based on our interpretation of millennials. We feel very strongly that millennials want to make a difference. In order to be truly authentic, Forever 21 established a corporate social-responsibility component. Don and Jin Sook Chang, who founded the company, are incredibly humble people who give a lot to charity, but they don’t like to talk about it. Actually, one of the Forever 21 core values is giving back, but we really don’t talk about it. So, we wanted to create a framework for charitable giving. We started last year with breastcancer awareness month. We put together a collection and partnered with the Keep A Breast Foundation, which we chose because they are very youth-focused and global. We launched it in Canada, China, Japan, UK, US and France. Our internal tagline is: Give to Love, Love to Give which we made external. A dollar from the sale of each item went to Keep A Breast. We also started to talk about the community work that we do locally. One of our initiatives last year was to construct one of the largest single rooftop solar power systems in Los Angeles county. It’s the third-biggest in California. It powers 1,450 homes and is the equivalent of taking 1,200 cars off the road. Millennials are a force for good. The good will and goodness is very real and comes from a very authentic place. We spend a lot of money making sure that the credit application can be completed online and in mobile. The number of credit-card applications we now get on mobile is astonishing. Because millennials value audacity and irreverence, we also try to make them laugh with our ads. Which brands or retailers are doing the best job understanding millennials? Lynch: Twenty-five years ago, emotional connections in advertising were created by jingles. People couldn’t get the jingles out of their heads. Today, you see a lot more stories and emotional connections driven by what the brand stands for and what the brand is outside of what it does every day. One brand that is doing it real well is Patagonia. Their products are fantastic, but I also feel great about the fact that everybody in their company cares about what that company stands for. Their story creates an emotional connection. In terms of retailers, Dick’s Sporting Goods is doing a great job, and has also created an emotional connection. For millennials, it’s not a question of online or offline; it’s online versus asleep! DE E MC L AUGH L I N Gilligan: Capital One’s brand values, our vision and mission, are core concepts that remain steadfast. However, the tools and how we are translating our story into different mediums is different. Millennials are absolutely influencing how we think about convenience and using technology to make things seamless. They’ve gone from traditional retailing that was all price- and merchandising-driven, and brought a whole different way of doing sporting-goods retail. Their ads tell stories, and anybody who loves sports can’t help but be drawn into those stories. When you walk into their stores, you feel like you are at a place where athletes come together. 19 MAY/JUNE 2015 THE HUB T HOUGHT L E ADER S They create an environment that makes people care about them as a brand. ROB LYNCH is brand president and chief marketing officer of Arby’s, leading all research and development, product innovation, brand marketing and positioning, advertising and media. LISA BAIRD is chief marketing officer of the United States Olympic Committee, directing the sales and marketing division and overseeing corporate sponsorship, properties, media, events, consumer products and direct marketing. GEOFF WALKER is executive vice president of the Fisher-Price global brands team and HIT Brands, where he oversees worldwide strategy, product innovation, production, marketing, and global distribution. DEE MC LAUGHLIN is vp of global marketing for Forever 21, leading the marketing, social media and public relations initiatives in 47 countries. Dee was previously an svp with MTV Networks and vp marketing with Virgin Entertainment Group. SHERRI GILLIGAN is svp, card brand marketing for Capital One, leading acquisition, strategy, segments, retention and partnerships. Previously, she was svp of marketing and advertising at MGM Resorts International. Baird: Nike deserves to be called out. For a brand that was invented 40 years ago, it’s pretty astounding how they have remained so relevant. They continue to reimagine their relevance to new audiences and they do it really, really well. Everybody makes mistakes at times, but it’s rare that Nike does. Their fundamental strategies remain the same. Nike believes in the athlete, and they’ve continued to make sure that their athlete relationships are very strong and authentic. They really understand their brand and yet they are not afraid to take risks and put that brand in new THE HUB MAY/JUNE 2015 Mc Laughlin: A few years ago, Ford did a really good job when they put their cars into the Zipcar college program. I thought that was kind of genius — where they got college students to drive their cars. They funded a scholarship program at the same time. You can’t not talk about Kmart, and Ship My Pants. That was brilliant — and then the follow-up, Jingle Balls. That was pretty good, too. The reason I love those is that they were short and creative. So clever. Another one I like is Target’s Archer Farms, their private-label food brand. I like that it is sort of artisanal in its imagery, and I think that really appeals to millennials Millennials really want us to embrace them as individuals and not label them as a group. SH E R R I GI L L IGA N situations that can make people look at them in a different way. The product also continues to get better and really hit at what the consumers want. Walker: I have a lot of respect for Angela Ahrendts for re-creating Burberry. When I arrived at FisherPrice, it was a heritage brand that wasn’t adapting quickly enough to the new generation of millennial parents. Angela was able to make heritage cool at Burberry. As fashion, it’s relevant, it’s cool, it’s hip. It’s digital. Tom’s Shoes is the other one. One of the things that brands have to respect today is cause marketing. Brands need to give back. Tom’s has created a great business model, but it’s authentic to who they are. It’s 20 not just something that’s scripted. Millennials care about that. who want that premium feel without the sticker shock. Gilligan: Patagonia is really compelling not only because of their sustainability efforts, but because they talk about how they maintain their responsibility. Their trust factor goes way up because they admit when they weren’t responsible and explain what they did about it. That really resonates with millennials. My millennial daughter turned me onto an app called Hopper, where you enter information about your travel plans and it sends you push notifications about the best time to book your flights. It goes back to the importance of experiences to millennials, and how to get the most out of your money. n