vietnam us gov issue watches

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US GOVERNMENT ISSUED VIETNAM WAR WATCHESWITH A SECTION ON FAKE
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US GOVERNMENT ISSUED VIETNAM WAR WATCHES
WITH A SECTION ON FAKE & COUNTERFEITS
READ BEFORE BUYING VIETNAM
ERA MILITARY WATCH
THERE WERE NEVER ANY NAMES ON DIAL
OR US NAVY US ARMY US MARINES OR AIR FORCE EVER
OK, I HAVE PUT A VIETNAM MILITARY
WATCH PDF TOGETHER IT IS FREE
FREE DTU-2 EDUCATIONAL PDF
ALL PDF BELOW ARE ROCK’S WORK INCLUDING RESTORED WATCHES
THIS IS ONE OF THE ABSOLUTE RARE US MIL WATCH WITH COMPANY NAME
http://lsyf.com/PDF/
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RESTORED BY ROCK GREEN BERET 3818A
Oct-Oct/1961_bulova_hacking_3818a.html
BELOW IS WALTHAM WATCH COMPANY
REQUESTING TO PLACE THE WALTHAM BRAND ON THE DIAL
OF MILITARY CONTRACT WATCHES & A FOLLOW-UP DENYING
THE MILITARY REPLY IS “NOT” “CANNOT DUE”
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NOTHING WHAT SO EVER AS FAR AS BRANDING
Below is the Official info on the Vietnam US issue Watch
No Matter The Maker
THEY ALL HAD TO BE AS WRITTEN
- AND NO CASE BACKS
NO NAME OR ANYTHING ON DIAL
NO LONGINES OMEGA J LeCoultre OR
MOST OF THOSE OFFERED ON EBAY
FULL PDF
http://lsyf.com/MIL-W-3818B_Spec.pdf
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MIL-W 3818A
RESTORED BY TOCK GREEN BERET 3818A
Oct-Oct/1961_bulova_hacking_3818a.html
MIL-W-3818A WAS THE A-11 OF 1950'S THE A-17. THE US CONTRACT WAS A FIRST FOR 24HR CHAPTER. ALL THESE
WATCHES HACKED. MOST WERE NOT MARKED WITH MAKER ON DIAL. GREEN BERET SOLDIERS RECEIVED THE A
VERSION.
TWO PIECE CASE.-REMOVABLE CASE BACK
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MIL-W 3818B
DTU-2A/P
SINGLE CASE 1968 DTU-2A/P BENRUS RESTORED BY ROCK
MIL-W 3818b WAS THE FIRST FULLY RE DESIGNED MIL WATCH THAT RECEIVED THE NAME DTU-2A/P . THE FIRST
CONTRACT WAS FOR 10,000+ UNITS FOR THE MARINES. BENRUS WON IT AND BULOVA PROTESTED BUT LOST. THIS
WAS THE VERY FIRST TO USE THE ABOVE SPECS
SINGLE CASE. CRYSTAL REMOVED TO INSTALL MOVEMENT
SIGNED ON BACK
CONT.NO. GS-00S-61940 SERIAL NO xxxxxx
DATE June 1969
WRIST WATCH DTU-2A/P MIL-W-3818B
MFG. PART. NO XZ73065
FED STOCK NO 6645-066-4279
U.S.
MIL-W-46374 OD
Plastic CASE OK
RESTORED BY ROCK PLASTIC MIL-W-46374A
The next version [1 ]MIL-W-46374 AND THE [2]MIL-W-46374A-- version permitting plastic 1970-1975.BENRUS WESTCLOX
HAMILTON. SINGLE CASE. CRYSTAL REMOVED TO INSTALL MOVEMENT
SIGNED ON BACK
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1-U.S. Wristwatch General purpose Non-Maintainable
MIL-W-46374
Fed. Stock No.6645-952-3767
APR 1969
2-Watch-wrist General purpose Non-Maintainable [PLASTIC OK]
Mil-W-46374A
Westclox No. 75062
FSN 6645-952-3767
DAAA25-70-D-0335
Sept 1970
US
MIL-W-3818A
THE FIRST SPECIFIC WATCHES UTILIZED IN NAM WAS THE 3818A
WHICH WAS UTILIZED BY GREEN BERET / SPECIAL FORCES
NOTE IT HAS THE LOOK OF A-11/A-17 HACK BUT LABELED 3818A HACK
DTU-2AP.-MIL-W-3818B
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THEN A CONTRACT WAS AWARDED TO BENRUS. BENRUS PRODUCED THE FIRST VIETNAM WATCH AND IT WAS THE
FIRST SINGLE CASE SYSTEM WITH TWO PART CRYSTAL LOCKING MIL-W-3818B KNOWN AS DTU-2AP. ALL WATCHES
AFTER THE BENRUS WERE SINGLE CASE. STEEL AND PLASTIC. BENRUS BUILT 10,000 FOR THE MARINE CORPS.
FOLLOWED UP THE MIL-W-3818A. [U.S. VIETNAM WATCHES WERE NON-MAINTENANCE. THEY HAD TO LAST 2 YEARS
WITH NO REPAIRS]
MILITARY WATCHES USA ORDINANCE ISSUE
DPU-2A/P MIL-W-3118B MIL-W-3818B_Sepcifications.pdf
MIL-W-4637 milspec-mil-w-46374f.PDF AVAILABLE 3118 specifications pdf 4637 specifications pdf
BULOVA PROTESTS THE BENRUS AWARD OF MILITARY WATCH CONTRACT VIETNAM ISSUE
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WESTCLOX 7 JEWEL NO DIAL BRAND NAME
HAMILTON STEEL CASE NO DIAL BRAND NAME
BENRUS STEEL CASE NOTE NO DIAL BRAND NAME
NOTE THERE WERE NO OMEGA LA-COULTRE IWC OR ANY OF THE FAKES SOLD ON THE BAY
NO US ARMY OR US NAVY. NOTE NONE OF THESE HAVE BRAND NAMES
1968 Belforte
1972 Metal Hamilton.1970 Jeambrun/Seiko
plastic Westclox 1965 Benrus "hack" DTU-2A/P
& Benrus plastic 1967 BENRUS SINGLE
3818A 1968-benrus MIL-W-3818 - 2A/P
-mil-w-3818b
1969
Belforte & Benrus
1965 Plastic Benrus
MIL-W-3818B
Hamilton W-46374A
GG-W-113
MIL-W-46374A AND B & GG-W-113
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MIL-W-46374A AND B & GG-W-113
The MIL-W-46374 series of U.S. Military wrist watches began with specification publication dated 30 October 1964. as a “U.S.
Wristwatch Non-Maintainable”. The MIL-W-46374B was required to have a 7 jewel manual wind mechanical movement, stainless steel
case and acrylic crystal- though some plastic B series watches occasionally show up.
The strap was OD nylon with a black anodized steel buckle. Typical markings for the MIL-W-46374B watches will be these lines from
the only two manufacturers.
On May 7 1975, AFTER VIETNAM the MIL-W-46374B was required to have a “H3? and radiation symbol on the dial to warn that
luminous tritium paint was used. H3.
THUS WE HAVE The MIL-W-46374B 3818A 3818B DTU-2A/P AND GG-W-113
Case designations: PLA = plastic, CRM = corrosion resistant metal;
STS = stainless steel . Movement designations: ## j = number of
jewels; QTZ = electronic quartz mvt, MEC =manual wind mechanical
mvt.; HCK = hacking
US ARMY SPECIFICATION NO. 94-27834-B, dated FEBRUARY
22, 1943 – WATCH, NAVIGATION, TYPE A-11 (HACK):F.
METHOD OF INSPECTION AND TESTS:
1961 SEAL DIVE DIAL
ABOVE ARE PLASTIC CASED MIL-W-46374B
Mil-W-46374A
Westclox No. 75092
FSN 6645-952-3767
DAAA25-70-D-0335
Sept 1970
US
WATCH, Wrist General Purpose MIL-W-46374B Timex Corp.
NSN 6645-08-952-3767 Mfg. Part No.DLA 406-81-C-2671Feb
1982
Dispose Rad Waste U.S. POST VIETNAM
VIETNAM SERVICE
THE MIL-W-4637 WAS MADE IN 20 STYLES HERE ARE 6 CASES MIL-W-4637 4 THROUGH 4A – 4G 9 1970-1991
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MILITARY WATCHES USA
L-W-46374 (published10/30/1964)
Maker
Type
FSN/NSN
Case
Movement
Dates
Benrus
na
6645-952-3767
PLA
7 j MEC
1966-1969
Belforte
na
6645-952-3767
PLA
7 j MEC
1965
MIL-W-46374A (published 9/10/1968)
Maker TypeFSN/NSN
CaseMovement Dates
Notes:
Benrus na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA 7 j MEC 1970-1976
Westcloxna 6645-00-952-3767 PLA Seiko MEC1970
Hamilton na 6645-00-952-3767 CRM7 j MEC 1970 – 1975(?)Australian Army
Hamilton na 6645-00-952-3767 CRM7 j MEC 1972-1975
US Issue; Part No. 39988
MIL-W-46374B (published 5/7/1975)
Maker TypeFSN/NSN
CaseMovement
Dates
Notes:
Hamiltonna 6645-00-952-3767 CRM7j MEC
1977-1983 Part no. 39988
Timex na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA Timex #24 MEC 1982
Limited distribution
MIL-W-46374C (published 4/15/1983)
Maker
TypeFSN/NSN
CaseMovementDates
Notes:
Stocker & Yale na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA 1 j MEC 1983-1984 SandY 184
MIL-W-46374D (published 10/10/1986)
Maker
Type FSN/NSN
CaseMovement
Dates
Notes:
Stocker & YaleType 26645-00-952-3767 PLA 1 j MEC
1984-1986 SandY 184A
Marathon
Type 26645-00-952-3767 PLA MEC
1990
Model 348
Hamilton
Type 16645-00-066-4279 CRM17j MEC HCK 1988
39986; Hamilton
MIL-W-46374E (published 5/31/1989)
Maker
Type FSN/NSN
CaseMovement
DatesNotes:
Marathon
Type 26645-01-304-4308 PLA 17j MEC
1991 Mod. 348A; tritium vials introduced
Stocker & YaleType 16645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK 1991 SandY 490; tritium vials
MIL-W-46374F (published 10/14/1991)
Maker
Type FSN/NSN
CaseMovement
Dates
Notes:
Marathon
Type 16645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK199?- 2000 Model 348 A
Marathon
Type 26645-00-952-3767 PLA ??j mech
1997
Model 359
Marathon
Type 36645-01-318-9833 PLA QTZ HCK
199?
Model 350A
Marathon
Type 66645-01-364-4042 PLA QTZ HCK
1997 – 2001Model 211, Navigators
Stocker & YaleType 16645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK1993-199? SandY 490; ETA 2801 movement
Stocker & YaleType 36645-01-252-6705 PLA QTZ HCK
199?
SandY 590
Stocker & YaleType 66645-01-364-4042 PLA QTZ HCK
1995-2000 P650 Navigators
Stocker & YaleType 66645-01-364-4042 STS QTZ HCK
1995-1998 P660 Navigators
MIL-PRF-46374G (published 12/11/1999)
Notes:
Benrus
US GOV ISSUED 1968 VIETNAM WAR SINGLE
PLASTIC CASE WESTCLOX MILITARY WATCH
MOVERMENT VERSIONS
M101 26D 7J 1965 – 1968 MIL VERSION
D407 7J 1965 -1968 MIL VERSION
A 201 17J VERSION
M101 26D 17J 1968 MIL VERSION
M102 26D 21J 1968 MIL VERSION
NOTE. THE VIETNAM WAR HAD PX/BX R&R WATCHES. THESE ARE SOME TO LOOK FOR.
WESTCLOX
ANOTHER WESTCLOX VIETNAM
RARE VIETNAM ERA W/DATE
US GOV ISSUE 1968/69 A ROUND IN
SQUARE FIRST INVENTED
BYOMEGA WWII
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1962 Westclox
OWNED BY SF
MEMBER
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PX R&R 1970-1971
PX R&R 1965-1967
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL SAME WESTCLOX DIAL
WESTCLOX SOLD AND GAVE AWAY A FEW HUNDRED WESTCLOX WATCHES TO US SPECIAL FORCES ADVISORS IN
VIETNAM IN THE LATE 1950’S TO EARLY 1960’S. THE DESIGN FEATURES OF THESE TIME PIECES AS WELL AS THEIR
STAMINA IN THE FIELD WOULD FIND THEIR WAY INTO A SERIES OF MILITARY WATCHES THAT WOULD PROVE NOT ONLY
TO BE RUGGED AND EXCEPTIONAL, BUT ABLE TO LAST IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM ACCORING TO THE “GOV MUST
DO” -LAST TWO YEARS W/O SERVICE . THUS THIS WOULD GAIN WESTCLOX ONE OF THOSE US MILITARY CONTRACTS
FOR THOUSANDS OF US MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES FOR TROOPS IN VIETNAM.
JAPANESE 2 VERSIONS
1968 MIL VERSION 7J
1970 MIL VERSION 7J
1969 M102 21J HK
1964 17J HK
FRENCH 4 VERSIONS
SWISS WITH 4 SQUARE
BELOW ARE DSSUED
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1970 Jeambrun/Seiko
1969 Belforte & Benrus plastic , plastic plastic Westclox
1967 BENRUS METAL SINGLE
CASE
MIL-W-3818 - 2A/P MIL-W3818B
1972 Metal Hamilton.
1965 Benrus "hack"
DTU-2A/P
1967 BENRUS METAL
SINGLE CASE
MIL-W-3818 - 2A/P MIL-W3818B
GG-W-113
1965 Benrus "hack" DTU-2A/P
1968 Belforte & Benrus
plastic 3818A
1968-benrus-mil-w-3818b
1965 Benrus "hack" DTU-2A/P
VIETNAM WAR
P/X & R&R
1961 - 1972 Westclox 17J M101/M201 SNAP & SCREW DOWN
SEIKO 1970 6105 DIVE
1955-1969
1960-1970 WYLER 1968 SEIKO 6106 1968 SEIKO 6119
HELBROS
INCAFLEX &
8100
7170
CENTER SWEEPS DYNAWIND
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1965-1970
WALTHAM DIVE
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1965 WALTHAM
24HR
1969 WESTEND
24HR
WALTHAM DIVE
WALTHAM DIVE
1965- DOXA 300T
1962 1969
GLYCINE 72
1965 1972 ZODIAC SEA WOLF - OLYMPOS - GMT - 1965-1971BULOVA/CARAVELLE 333/666 DIVE
POPULAR PX/BX R&R
ZODIAC GMT
SEIKO 6105
ZODIAC SEA WOLF
1955-1969 HELBROS TRUE 24HR
VIETNAM ERA WYLER
HELBROS DIVE
BULOVA 666 333 CARAVEL
BENRUS DIVE
1968 SEIKO 6106 8100
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1968 SEIKO 6119 7170
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1965 WALTHAM 24HR
WYLER 666
<<<<<THE GLYCINE AIRMAN WAS POPULAR WITH
GROUND TO FLYER
HELO TO JET
THE ZODIAC GMT AEROSPACE
WAS ALSO TOP OF THE LIST. 24 HR &
HACKING>>>>>
NOT EVEN A WALTHAM NOT GENUINE
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LONGINES NEVER MADE THIS WATCH MOVEMENT
AVIGATION NAVIGATION SPECIFICATION SPELLED WRONG
ANY OFFER WITH YELLOW COLOR THERE ARE NO INFO ON EDGES
AND NAME NO GO CASES DID NOT SCREW OFF SOLID ONE PIECE
HAMILTON NEVER MADE MOV LONGINES NEVER MADE WATCHES FOR NAM
ALSO, LOOKS LIKE THE FAKE LONGINES
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AGAIN LONGINES NEVER MADE VIETNAM US GOV WATCHES
PLUS SPELLING IS WRONG
NEVER WERE THEY SCREW BACKS
AND NAVIG AND OTHER ITEMS ARE WRONG
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FAKE LONGINES AGAIN
JAG LA COULTRE NEVER MADE WATCHES FOR US OR ANYONE
NOT THE CHEAP MOVEMENT. GO HTTP://LSYF.COM CLICK DAVID'S RESTORES
TO SEE A REAL JLE MIL MOVEMENT
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NOTE THE YELLOW MARKERS AND HANDS THE BOLOVA ON DIAL
FAKE BULOVA
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GENUINE BULOVA HACKING MOVEMENT
NOT NOT NOT FAKE
I HIGHLY DOUBT THIS CHEAP VIETNAM CHINA MOV HACKS!
NOTE THE CASE BACK HAS SEAGULL STAMP FAKE
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NOR A HAMILTON HACKING MOVEMENT
THE A-17 ABOVE MADE FOR KOREAN WAR AS THE KOREAN WAR A-11 IS CORRECT
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GG-W-1338 BUT THE ABOVE IS FAKE NOTE DOUBLE STAMP ON US
DATE 1969 IT SHOULD BE SINGLE CASE NO CASE BACK TO REMOVE.
ALSO HAD FAKE MOVEMENT
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THE BIGGEST FAKE OMEGA DID NOT MAKE US ISSUE WATCHES
PLUS SEE THE YELLOW?
BREITLING NEVER MADE US MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES
ANOTHER FAKE BREITLING
NEVER WAS THAT THERE CHINESE CASE ALSO
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BREITLING NEVER MADE THIS CHEAP MOVEMENT
NOR DID THEY EVER MAKE A US ISSUE
both fake
n
DUMP THESE YELLOW CHINESE FAKES
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YOU CAN SHOUT TILL YOU ARE BLUE IN THE FACE
THESE WERE NO BRITS IN VIETNAM NOR DID THEY SUPPLY WATCHES
THIS HAS US NAVY THE THE BRITISH WWII W.W.W.
STOOD FOR WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF ONLY ENGLISH USED THIS
HERE WE SEE A7A THAT MEANS DUMP IT
THIS IS WHAT THE SINGLE CASE SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE
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FAKE A-7 NOTE THE MISSPELLING
THIS IS THE REAL 1934 A-7 PILOTS WATCH
A POCKET CONVERSION W/BUTTON TO RUN COUNTER IN CROWN
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REMEMBER CASE BACKS DO NOT COME OFF
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SOME DIALS MAY HAVE NAME IN DIAL NON PAINTED
A FEW ELGINS I SAW REQUIRED GETTING CLOSE AND SEEING A SLIGHT "ELGIN" INDENT
NO US MIL WATCH WAS AUTOMATIC
NO US NAVY OR US ARMY NEVER HAPPENED
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YELLOW LOOK NEVER HAPPENED
ANY THING WITH BRITISH BROAD ARROW NEVER HAPPENED
AUTOMATICS NEVER HAPPENED
A-7 NEVER HAPPENED
FAKE YELLOW
FAKE
NO ONE WAS ALLOWED TO PLACE NAMES ON DIAL
NOTE THE CHINES/VIETNAMESE YELLOW COLORED NUMBERS AND HANDS
FAKE
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FAKE
FAKE J A C DID NOT MAKE WATCHES FOR NAM
NOR FOR TROOPERS
NOR FOR PX BX OR R&R
WOW REAL FAKE NO AUTOMATICS
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FAKE
NO US NAVY
WWW IS A BRITISH MARK WWII
WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF
HAD NO FACT IN VIETNAM
NO BRITS NOR WATCHES
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FAKE
FAKE
FAKE
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index.
VIETNAM US GOV ISSUE WATCHES
POCKET TRENCH & CONVERSIONS
GERMAN SUBMARINE WATCHES WWII WAR INSPIRED MILITARY WATCHES
GERMAN MILITARY WATCHES JAPANESE MILITARY WATCHES
BRITISH WWI WWII MILITARY WATCHES KOREAN WAR GLYCINE AIRMAN
AVIATORS WATCHES ROLES MARCONI TUDOR
radium tritium luminova
COUNTERFEIT-WATCHES
GSW HAS OFFERED OUR PRODUCT EXCLUSIVELY ON EBAY FOR TEN YEARS
GSW WATCH WORKS GOOGLE 454 ALBUM 45000 PICTURES
TIMEFRAUD
IS IT COUNTERFEIT OR NOT
HELP STOP INTERNET WATCH FRAUD
TIMEFRAUD.COM
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100% FAKE NOT COUNTERFEIT WATCHES
THE ORGANIZATION IS NOW USING AMERICAN FLAG BACKGROUNDS. YOU WILL SEE HUNDREDS OF OFFERS ALL
LOOKING THE SAME
UPDATE: THEY CHANGED THEIR BACK GROUNDS AGAIN. WHICH MEANS OUR WORKS ARE BEING FOLLOWED!
JUST LOOK FOR OFFERS THAT ARE THE SAME ACROSS SELLERS.
HERE WE HAVE TWO FAKES. THESE ARE NOT COUNTERFEIT, BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER MADE BY THE COMPANIES
ATTRIBUTED TO IN THE SIGNINGS ON THE MOVEMENTS. THUS THEY WERE NOT ISSUED BY THE COMPANIES UNDER ANY
CONTRACT AND ARE NOT IN ANY US GOV CONTRACT SPECS. THEY ARE FAKES SOLD AS SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT.
FRAUD.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A FAKE BREITLING AND THE MOVEMENT IS THE SAME AS THE BOTTOM RIGHT FAKE JAEGER
LECOULTRE.
NO WAY DID BREITLING AND JLC PRODUCE THE SAME MOVEMENTS.
AND IN FACT, EVEN THE A-11, A-8, MIL-W-3818 38, GG-W-113, MIL-W-4637 AND OTHER US GOVERNMENT ISSUED WWII
AND VIETNAM ERA MILITARY WATCH CONTRACTS PROVIDED THE MAIN PLANS, EACH VENDER/BRAND PRODUCED
THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS. SO THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT.
LIKE THE BREITLING AND LECOULTRE, THE TWO TOP MOVEMENTS ARE ALSO FAKE /FRAUDULENT AN ELGIN AND
WALTHAM WATCH WITH THE DEAD GIVEAWAY BEING BOTH MOVEMENTS ARE ALIKE. NEITHER ARE ACTUAL
MOVEMENTS USED IN MILITARY WATCHES IN THE USA OR ANYWHERE ELSE THAT I CAN TELL .
THE FACT IS MOVEMENTS OF SEPARATE BRANDS BEING EXACT IS SIMPLY UNHEARD OF IN MILITARY ISSUED
WATCHES. WHEN LOOKING AT A BRAND, SEARCH THE BRAND. THEN COMPARE AGAINST OTHER BRANDS, BUT VIEWING
THE MOVEMENT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
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Note the watch DIAL SCHEMATIC is the "50000 fathoms" SEAL TEAM
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THE US GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY REQUIRED DIALS TO BE EXACTLY ALIKE. HARDLY ANY VIETNAM ERA WATCH HAD
NAMES ON THE DIAL. LOOK AT THE TOP US GOV PHOTO OF ACTUAL DIALS. THEY HAD TO BE EXACT AS TO THE
SPECIFICATIONS FOR THAT MODEL.
THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE CONCERNING NAMES ON DIALS WERE FEW. THE ABOVE RIGHT DIAL HAS "MFR'S NAME
" ON IT. THE SPEC CALLED FOR IT. THIS IS THE FAMOUS BULOVA FIRST NAVY AUTOMATIC DIVE WATCH CONTRACT THAT
WAS ASSUMED BY BLANCPAIN .
NOTE THE DIAL IS FOR THE DIVE WATCH OUTLINED IN THE 1961 MIL-W-22176 AND 1961 + MIL-W-22176-A
SPECIFICATIONS.
THIS WOULD BECOME THE PLANS FOR BLANCPAIN'S FIFTY FATHOMS. BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED BY THE US
NAVY. SEE THE ROUND MOISTURE INDICATOR AT BOTTOM ABOVE SIX? IT WAS DESIGNED IN 1960. BLANCPAIN WOULD
MAKE 10,000 WATCHES FOR THE NAVY SEALS. THEN WOULD USE THE DESIGN AS "Milspec 1" WHICH MEANT "MILITARY
SPECIFICATIONS 1" (THE ACTUAL NAVEL SPECIFICATIONS ARE ON TIMEFRAUD. THUS THE DATING OF THE WATCH AND
THE ACTUAL SPECIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES TO DISCOVER THE FACTS OF DIALS AND
DATES OF PRODUCTION.
NOTE THE GG-W-113 HAS NO NAME.. OK? IF YOU READ CASE BACK AND IT HAS 113 THEN EXPECT NO NAME ON DIAL.
THE A-17 HAD NO NAME... IT HAD RADIUM NUMERALS. LOOK AT THE PICTURE ABOVE! IF THE DIAL LOOKS LIKE ALL THE
OTHER FAKES WITH OFF BLACK DIAL WITH YELLOWISH EVERYTHING ELSE SO PERFECT AND NEAT IT IS A FAKE
UNLESS DESCRIBED IN DETAIL, AND I MEAN DIAL. THE 3118A HAVE HAD BULOVA ON THE DIAL WHICH HAD TO BE
ALLOWED AND REQUESTED BY CONTRACT AND SPECS!
THEY WERE ALL NOTE THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE FAKES YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THEM IF YOU SIMPLY LOOK!
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WESTCLOX BENRUS ET AL. HAD THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS AND THEY LOOK AND ARE SIGNED AND MADE DIFFERENT
EVEN IF THE CASES LOOK THE SAME.
THE CASES ON US GOV MIL ISSUE MILITARY WATCHES WERE ALWAYS EXACT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE TO THE SPECS,
GET THE ID FROM THE CASE BACK. THE MODEL NUMBER A GOOGLE IT BEFORE YOU INVEST OR BID. USE PICTURES TO
SPEED THE PROCESS. COMPARE.
CHECK CASE BACKS FOR SPELLING ERA' LIKE THE WORD "SPECIFICATION" OR HOW THE WRITING IMPRINTING
PRESSING STAMPINGS ARE.
IF YOU KNOW IT IS A FAKE AND BUY IT EVERYONE IS GETTING RIPPED -- SOMETIMES IT TAKES TIME TO KNOW, LIKE
WHEN IT BREAKS AND THE WATCH MAKER SAYS I CANNOT FIX THIS FAKE
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FAKE WESTCLOX OD PLASTIC CASED VIETNAM ERA MILITARY ISSUE ARE COPIED AND FAKED . LOOK FOR SLOPPY
AND MISS-ALIGNED INFO ON CASE BACK. BROAD ARROW AND WWW CASE BACKS ADVERTISED AS US GOV MIL ISSUE
ARE FAKE. PERIOD. A-7 DESIGNATION ON CASE BACK ARE FAKE. PERIOD. CASE BACKS WITH SPELLING WRONG ARE
FAKE, PERIOD. A-17 OR A-17A ARE FAKE IF THE DIALS ARE NOT LIKE THOSE IN THE #2 PICTURE ABOVE. AND, WITH HE
EXCEPTION OF THE RARE BULOVA/BLANCPAIN NAVY DIVE WATCH EARLY 1960'S, ANY US GOV MILITARY ISSUED WATCH
WITH AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT IS FRAUD FAKE AND A RIP OFF. YOU WILL HAVE TO LIE AND COMMIT FRAUD IF YOU READ
THIS AND BUY ONE OR HAVE ONE AND RESELL IT AS WHAT IT IS NOT: GENUINE.
OH.. LET ME HELP YOU OUT. IT SEEMS THE SAME COMPANIES ARE MAKING UP THESE FAKES.
A) SPECIFICATION NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY 60%
B) MFR'S IS NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY
C) A-7 IS A NO BRAINER. NOT UNLESS IT IS A POCKET WATCH CHRONO LONGINES GALLET MOVEMENT ONE BIG POCKET
TYPE CROWN WITH PUSHER IN CENTER ALSO NOTE WORDS AVIGATION AND THE MISSPELLING MIR'S INSTEAD OF
MRF'S AND SPICIIICATION INSTEAD OF SPECIFICATION. A FAKE SOLD ON EBAY AROUND 9-06/2012 FOR OVER 200.00 US!
D) THE CASE BACK HAS ELGIN STOCK NO 10BNCH OR WALTHAM STOCK NO 10BNCH AND THEN THESE
LETTERS/NUMBERS 10BNCH . THE 10BNCH IS THE BULOVA HACKING MOVEMENT PLACED ONLY IN THE BULOVA MIL
ISSUE BULOVA STOCK NO. 10BNCH. SO BULOVA STOCK NO 10BNCH WOULD BE PROPER.. BUT EVEN THEN, CHECK
WHAT WE ARE SHOWING YOU .
E) BULOVA DID NOT, I REPEAT, DID NOT RECEIVE CONTRACTS FOR VIETNAM ERA GOV MIL SPEC ISSUE WATCHES. WE
HAVE THE APPEAL OF BULOVA TO THE U.S. MILITARY BOARD AND THEIR DENIAL TO ALLOW BULOVA TO BE OFFERED
CONTRACT FULFILLMENT. BENRUS WAS THE WINNER..
F) BRITISH MILITARY WWII AND AFTER W.W.W. [WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF] AND 1500' ON, BRITISH BROAD ARROW
DESIGNATION SPECIFICATION IS ONLY ON BRITISH WATCHES AND THE BRITISH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH VIETNAM. ALL
THROUGH TIME.. LITERALLY, THE BRITISH ADDED BROAD ARROW TO CASE BACKS AND ON SOME DIALS, WWI, WWII THE
1950'S AND 1960'S, ON TIMERS IN THE 1980'S. THE BRITISH WAR DEPARTMENT ORDERED MILITARY WATCHES
DESIGNATED W.W.W FOR WATCH WRIST WATERPROOF. THESE W.W.W. WATCHES WERE TO HAVE BLACK RADIUM
DIALS, 15 JEWEL MOVEMENTS, SUB SECONDS- PERSPEX SHATTER RESISTANT GLASS, STRONG CASES WITH EXTRA
WATER PROOFING AND LARGE CROWNS. 12 MANUFACTURERS BUREN, CYMA, ETERNA, GRANA, IWC , JLC, Lemania,
LONGINES, OMEGA, RECORD, TIMOR and VERTEX] SELECTED TO FILL THE ORDERS. EACH WOULD PRODUCE WATCHES
SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER. ALL WOULD HAVE SCREW DOWN CASE BACKS EXCEPT IWC, WHO UTILIZED A SNAP CASE
BACK WITH A LEAD WASHER SEAL.
5
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ANOTHER TARGET FRAUD IS THE ORD. DEPT WATCHES WE DISCOVER FROM ASIA. OR SOMETIMES THE US BUT ARE
FROM ASIA. NOTE ABOVE. THEY HAVE USED A COUNTERFEIT DIAL WITH GREEN ILLUMINATED TRIANGULAR MARKERS.
THEY PLACED A HAMILTON NAME WITH THE H LOGO -- DUH-- SCREAMS FAKE. THEN THEY CNC THE CASE BACK. BUT
THE GIVEAWAY IS THE MOVEMENTS. YOU SEE IT IS A 1950'S AUTOMATIC. NONE WERE UTILIZED IN US GOV ISSUE MIL
WATCHES. AND WHY DID I SAY CNC CUT CASE BACK? THE CASE IS FOR AN AUTOMATIC. SO THEY DID NOT USE A MIL
CASE, CASE BACK AND DIAL AND SIMPLY CHANGE THE MOVEMENT. THE ENTIRE ENSEMBLE IS FAKE. MEANING THE
BACK CASE WAS CARVED AND NOT STAMPED - ONE CAN TELL BECAUSE IT IS NO PERFECT.
6.
WHEN YOU SEE CASES TAKE THE TIME TO ASK VENDER WHAT ERA, WHAT IS ON CASE BACK. THEN GOOGLE IT
BEFORE YOU MAKE A BID
ADVERTISED ON EBAY AS :
"THE HIL-W-3818A BRAND ??????? U.S. NAVY MILITARY ????EXCELLENT WORKING COLLECTIBLE CONDITION US
NAVYÃ?Â? SIGNED ON FACE AND Ã?Â?US NAVY W.W.W.Ã?Â? ON STEEL CASE BACK. HIL-W-3818A SERIAL NO A7845 NO
6645-808-1407 EXCELLENT CONDITION MOVEMENT. VINTAGE ISSUE OLIVE NYLON STRAP. THE Ã?Â?US NAVYÃ?Â?
SIGNED DIAL IS PAINTED BLACK WITH Ã?Â?KHAKIÃ?Â?
THE FAKE --NOT COUNTERFEIT-- US NAVY WWW WRIST WATCH IS FRAUD AT IT'S BEST. EVERY THING PART AND
NOTATION IS FRAUDULENT. ALL DESIGNED TO STEAL YOUR MONEY. EVER GO TO RESELL? WELL, YOU CAN BE
CHARGED WITH FRAUD! CAUSE IT IS FAKE
FAKE ELGIN, OMEGA, WALTHAM , LECOULTRE, BULOVA, WESTCLOX... US NAVY US ARMY WWW BROAD ARROW DIALS
ALL THE SAME MOVEMENTS THE SAME WITH DIFFERENT BRANDS, AUTOMATICS , CASES THE SAME YET UNLIKE WHAT
YOU SEE WHEN YOU Google THEM.....
THE US GOVERNMENT, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, THE BULOVA/BLANCPAIN NAVY DIVER, NEVER EVER CONTRACTED OR
PRODUCED GOV SPECS FOR AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT WATCHES. THE ONLY ONE WAS THE DIVE WATCH WE
DISCUSSED..
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ABOVE WE HAVE A FAKE LONGINES THE DIAL IS NOT A LONGINES DIAL THAT IS ON THE A-7 AND LONGINES NEVER
MADE A DIAL LIKE THIS NO LONGINES WERE MADE FOR VIETNAM AND IN WWII LONGINES MADE MILITARY WATCHES BUT
NOT THE TYPE OFFERED THROUGH US GOVERNMENT AND THE DIALS WERE WHITE OR BLACK WITH RAISED RADIUM
NUMBERS WITH 24HR ALSO ON SOME.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS MOVEMENT WE SEE CHEAP ALSO WE SEE A 360 DEGREE AUTOMATIC MEANING THE ROTOR
SPINS 360 DEGREES ONLY THE BUMPER 180 WAS AVAILABLE BEFORE 1950 OR A RARE ROLEX 360. FACT IS, AS I SAID,
NEVER EVER A US MILITARY WATCH NOR A LONGINES MOVEMENT
AND, AS DESCRIBED BELOW, UNDER A-7 AVIGATION, THE TYPE A-7 WAS BEFORE THE A-8 JITTERBUG NAV 1938 TIMER
AND THE 1942 A-11 HACKING PILOTS WATCH . THE A-7 WAS A CHRONOGRAPH WITH GALLET CHRONO MOVEMENT WITH
LARGE CROWN WITH CENTER BUTTON IN CROWN IT WAS MORE LIKE A POCKET WATCH CASE WITH TWO SUB-DIALS ON
THE MAIN DIAL
NOW FOR THE BIGGEST FAKE, THAT IS USING THE DESIGNATION # SPEC SHEET NO. THE NAME A-7
THE US MIL A-7 WATCH. YOU WILL SEE TONS OF WATCHES WITH A-7 ON BACK CAUSE? IT IS HARD TO FIND THE REAL A7
SO WE DECIDED TO SHOW YOU ONE....:
THE A-7 A-8 AND A-11 ARE DESIGNATIONS OF SPECIFICATIONS THAT PRODUCED MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES WW11 AND
BEFORE.
A) THE A-7 WAS THE 1930'S "AVIGATION" WATCH
B) THE A-8 IS THE FAMOUS JITTERBUG NAV TIMER
C) THE A-11 FAMOUS HACKING PILOTS WATCH. EACH WERE MADE FOR WW11
7.
THE AVIGATION WAS THOUGHT TO BE A COOL NAME FOR NAVIGATION AND AVIATION.
THE FACT IS, THIS IS THE HARDEST WATCH TO FAKE.
LOOK, BREITLING JAEGER LECOULTRE OMEGA DID NOT HAVE US MILITARY CONTRACTS FOR WATCHES. WATCHES
STATED AS AMERICAN US NAVY ARMY --WHAT EVER -- WITH "W.W.W. AND/OR "BROAD ARROW" ON CASE BACK ARE
FAKES. THESE ARE BRITISH DESIGNATIONS -ESPECIALLY OFFERS WITH THE WORD "VIETNAM" IN THEM. NOTE NO
BRAND ABOVE? AS IF THE GOV MADE THE WATCH. AN THIS OMEGA FAKE SOLD FOR SOME LARGE BUCKS.
AGAIN IT WAS A FAKE
IF THE MOVEMENT IS NOT SHOWN DO NOT BUY UNLESS YOU ARE SURE.
SO ASK QUESTIONS OR VISIT THE HELP SITE TIMEFRAUD. TIMEFRAUD DOES NOT SELL NOR SPONSOR SALES SITES OR
ANYTHING BUT EXPOSING FRAUD AND ATTEMPTING TO INSURE YOU ARE TREATED FAIRLY.
TIMEFRAUD IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TO POST, ADD INFORMATION AND PROVIDE ANY CORRECTIONS OF CONTENT THAT
EXISTS.
ALL PICTURES IN/ON TIMEFRAUD AND HERE IN THIS GUIDE ARE UTILIZED UNDER THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS AND IST
AMENDMENT CLAUSE OF THE US. CONSTITUTION. THEY ARE UTILIZED TO REPORT INFORMATION IMPORTANT TO THE
PUBLIC AND AS SUCH, ANY CAUSE OR ACTION UNDER LAW SHALL BE FILED/HEARD IN THE NORTHERN DISTRICT
FEDERAL COURT OF GEORGIA . IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD, OR TO CORRECT, PLEASE EMAIL THE POSTER.
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CHECK OUT DAVIDS AWESOME WWII COLLECTIONS
RESTORED BY ROCK BEING RESTORED BY ROCK
EDUCATIONAL PDF
POCKET TRENCH CONVERSIONS VIETNAM US GOV ISSUE WATCHES
GERMAN SUBMARINE WATCHES WWII WAR INSPIRED MILITARY WATCHES
GERMAN MILITARY WATCHES JAPANESE MILITARY WATCHES
BRITISH WWI WWII MILITARY WATCHES KOREAN WAR GLYCINE AIRMAN
AVIATORS WATCHES ROLES MARCONI TUDOR
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