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R lair Thomas called to order the
Beautification commission
Meeting
heid at the
pity
Parksr
recreation and
of Pismo Beach council chambers
at 6
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Piedge e
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A
o
lle chair
ssion
omm
Thomas led the
Pledge
of Allegiance
Chairman
Jim Thomas
commissioners
Tam Abshere
Marcia Guthrie
Butch Lemc
Absent
commissioner
Nancy
f Present
ta
Publio
Planning Manager Johnson
ers
peal
Merilee
Hyman
Mickel
and Minutes clerk
m and
ley alco
he
Dhyana
Coburn
Sarin Sinclair
meeting saying it would be started with Public comments
ouncilmemberHigginbothamwanted to talkabouta newordinance
Chair Thomas started the
because
i
PUB
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Ni said it was important for the commissioners to know aboutthe Pier
inbotharn
Program She said the pity passed an ordinance prohibiting feeding the birds
1 become a law in 3a days
Ms Higginbotham said they have joined forces
which wi
with Pier vllatch who is organizing a docent program to help educate the public about
the ordinance and why t is imporknt not to feed the birds N
s Higginbotham said the
ordinance evil help keep the pier cleaner and they hope it will impactthe waterqua
ity
along the ocean She said the bacteria in the water caused from bird fecal matter is
extremely high and is very detrimental She said the pigeons are not native and come
to where the food is the said they are trying the least aggressive strategy first She
Ms
Docent
said falcons
rere
not
an
option
because the
tlike
public rouldn
it and mast
likely
pigeons
pigeons and
tbe successful She said the electronic devices don
couldn
t rark because the
become conditioned to them She said the next
relocating
them
die
euthanize
them
She said
step
ould be
v
they are
trapping the
researching other ways
Planning Canager Jchnon asked if there is a problem Frith seagull fecal matter or
s vhythe ordinance says Hotta feed the
only pigeon lbs Higginbvfiham said that
She
said
birds period
people are mare annoyed Frith the seagulls and tend to feed
the pigeons
hale
Planning l
ohnon
a
nager asked fthe ordinance is only at the Pier arthe v
said
ill
itv
the
e
P
r
cover
Promenade
Plaza the Parking Lot
city
Higginbotham
Pier and the cypress Street Bridge Planning Manager ohnon said it is still okay to
feed the ducks at lralease Park M Higginlao
harsaid yes Pianning Manager
Johnson said Shen the Park Master Plan is made for Iralease there could be a place
at specifically designated farteeding the ducks
ls Higginbotham
l
presented
Concerts in the Park affairs
as
a
flyer far the Dity of Santa Barbara listing
their free
ideas far Dinosaur haves Park events
rho have
Planning i
lanagerJahnon introduced Shelley Malcolm and Sarin Sinclairv
a proposal going to the Pianning Commission next
reekfor a conditional use perrnitto
have
Private Events Renter in Shell Beach
a
Shelley
alcolm said she and Ms Sinclair
are
purchasing
the Shell Beach Methodist
church and the old schoolhouse next door
restore the
buildings
She mentioned the
the church could still be used
reddins
film
She said their interest is to preserve and
types of activities they envision having there
church but also for special events such as
festivals community theater AA Meetings non
profit use etc
as a
Sinclair said she thinks it is valuable to
ouuner
t get it deemed
couldn
an
keep
rt in the
community
She said the last
historical site
I 11
lalcolrn said the
buildings have a lot of character She said there is community
interesting
using the space and a voice teacherutirho would like to give
lessons there and give choral per
ances
orr
s Sinclair said the seating i a bit more than 4 She said her husband will
i
landscape and re
paint the building
missioner Abshere asked ghat the neighbors think about the project
on
Ms Malcolm said they had a gathering farthe neighbors and the ones rho attended
were
l
g0
ere afraid the church v
ould be torn
supportive She said the neighbors v
rn and are happy it might be preserved She said Pastor Jae visited them and eras
do
happy to hear aboutthe things there are doing to preserve the building She said many
ofthe neighbors have fond memories ofevents thattook place atthe church She said
theater
in
the church has been closed since October
lVi Sinclair said the schoolhouse
built in 8
and
vas
eras
originally
a
church in San Luis
the first schoolhouse San Luis
bispa had
Obispo
It
called Bellevue
eras
School
She said it
s in fabulous condition
community
She said it mould be
great
forthe
to
keep
ere invited to the Shell Beach improvement Committee
theyu
meeting last month and Marilyn Hyman and Tony seemed excited about it
Ms Malcolm said the Supervisorfor Public Use Property and Buildings of Santa Maria
and he suggested they pay attention to ca
arrrrg fhe use to be avtrare of parking
err
limitations Ms Sinclair said they
rould never have anything on Election Day
Malcolm said
o asked hove much
omrnisioner Ler
rith room for
up there is a parking lot v
Sinclair said there is no parking on the
parking
there is Ms Ma
colr said
vehicles and there is street
block
property
Commissioner A
shere asked if
Ms Maicolm said
parking
one
Ms
they intend to ask the city for
rillpay
hapefullythey
he ci
money
ssioner Cufhrie said she thinks it i
Comrn
a
fabulous
idea
money
and she
hopes they
are
successful because it uvould add to the charm of Shell Beach
Planning ManagerJohnon said the Planning Commission packet vent outtoday so
if the Commissioners are in agreement she can draft a etterforJim
ssignature arthey
can each send her an email Commissioner Lemon said he thinks it
s a great idea and
rould improve ourarea
M
rnclairsaid there
perform
in
a
small
often small groups vuho come by and have no rhere to
She said it rould be nice to be able to donate the space to
are
venue
such visitors
they had a name for it
Ms Malcolm said not yet perhaps in Spanish French or Chumash and something
aboutthe sea M inciair said they plan to market it most likely via Weddings
because they have to suppork it
Planning Manager
Johnson asked if
Chair Thomas said he
sees no
problem
and agrees it
s
an
exciting proposition He
upfront before closing the
cautioned and varned them to find out the construction costs
deal because there vill be substantial rork needed
Commissioner Ler
os said he
and looked into
another
having
good
chair Thomas said
ChairThoma
to rrite
a
eras
place
looking
look and vuhat
letker
into
having
an
event at Dinosaur Caves
to tie into the Dinosaur Caves
saying
an
excellent
concept
the Commission is in
strong support
project
Eof AGENDA
EPTAN
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Chair Thomas asked if the Commissioners
accepted
the
agenda
of this
Acfiion Nation to
accepttheagenda
was
rude
by
Connnnisioner
o seconded
Ler
a
hairThor
by
Motion
accepted
g
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Agri
t
gg
as asked the Commissioners
irThorr
Ch
Action Ilotion to
Lemos
Lotion
seconded
they accepted
i
accept the Minutes of APRI L
isioner Guthrie
by Con7rr
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the V
inutes
was
made
by
Commissioner
epted
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Planning ManagerJohnon said the Council at the Budget Hearings did not take an
action to approve the request additional funds fvrthe community area behind the new
restroom at Dinosaur Caves Park
Chair Thomas said he talked to l
ayor Pro
presentation
was
Tempore Higinbotharr said a better
clarify educate and enlighten the council He said it gat
Council didn
t understand the need to spend the additional
needed to
lost in translation and the
money
Planning lanagerJohnson
ChairThoms said there
gg to
g
said there is money in the Park
ent Fund
Developr
ease Park and we requested
grant moneyfvr ra
the
engineerto get
park going to getthe state money He
over
Chumash Park and reimburse the city for
to
funding grant
was
outside
get
Carolyn shifted the
money spent there which
an
said
gave the Park Fund about 98
gbank into the Park Fund
from the State of California Now the city is earmarking for Iralease or do we get
money out of that
presentation
expenditure
the money elsewhere He said
time The Council felt t
ey were not fully informed to
or
da
they find
He said there is time between
now
Comrrxisioner Lemon asked what the status is
Planning Manager Johnson
pattern The comaunity area
said the
and the
on
9f
to
s
basically it
justify the
get it reinstated
the restroam
preparation vfthe
hid
specifications
is
underway
package
behind the restroorr could be included in the bid
alternative if money is not available forthe community area andlorthe Council
does not want it selection of the alternative wouidn
tbe chosen Bhe said the money
as an
ODg
is earmarked far I ralease and is not available far Dinosaur Caves
chair Thomas said the
bathroom at Dinosaur
original grant money and other maneythe city set aside forthe
Caves is still sitting there He said there is another
0
sitting there to expend the building He said the pity needs to make a decision He
said at the meeting about Dinosaur haves they alsa talked aboutthe funding ofthe
Sports Park He seid the staff was supposed to came back with additianal information
the following day and everyone was o tired because the meeting was late and staff
did not act upon it He seid Mayor Pro Tempore Higginbotham said that was ane of the
t get acted on because it wasn
t brought up again far clarification
problems it didn
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commissioner Lernos said the money slowing is not buying what it used to He said
could lose rr
ore if we wait Planning Manager Johnson said she agrees we lase
we
the
value
and that i
rard
isioner Lerno
rr
on
why she thinks it best to move for
t lase the
the project move farward in any way it can so we don
need mare funding we can go to the pity then
said he would like to
ue
va
f later
we
see
haEr Thomas said to go through the items
Item
Parks Maintenance staff
1le asked for two
1
electronic
Item
This
positions knowing
was
tracking system
would
we
for
one
only get
inventory
ornmiioner Guthrie asked if there is
done
being
Dept
said the Parks
commissioner
you
do that
by
ane
and work
projects
not funded
shavuwhat is
save
one
later
i
the
way to track hours spentfixing things that
ing ManagerJohnson said she could request it She
r
Plar
ane
who is
a
responsible
uthrle said it would rake
from
a
time
management
hairThomas asked if the CIS
to show if you spend this now it will
perspective there are computer programs that
sense
place can da inventory PEanning Manger
Johnson said it takes people to do the initiel inventory it
s not lane by X15 you need
BPS system or some other system to track the information She said initially you need
I of thane things chair Thomas said it doesn
t mean
someone to go out and identify a
we can
itwith
a
tstart prepping for it in
better
berta accomplish
epten
presentation
system
in
Johnson said if you went on the suggestion of on
issioner
rr
there would been identification about the amount of time used tar each task
Planning Manager
Guthrie
and process
more
She said if those haurs could be
organized
efficient ommiss
oner Guthrie asked what the
with
inventory
it would be
ommissianers need to do
Planning Manager Johnson said it would be helpful if the ommissianer would give
her their thoughts on haw to articulate their ideas sa she can present itta them at the
She said
next meeting in the form of a resalutian to take to the Public vVarks Director
if there is concurrence on ail ofyour parts she can start on it nave
amrniaianer Guthrie asked if the staff
logs whatthey
da each
day Planning
ManagerJahnan said she guesses that Jeff Hiserand crew would knawthe answers
chair Thomas asked Commissioner Guthrie to get the ball rolling with Carolyn and gat
back to the Commissioners
item
Boosinger Park
chair Thomas said
t give u money for a
Boosinger Park gat Borne money They didn
Master Plan He said they provided maneyfar playground equipment this year He
said next year they gill be providing another
1 surface
OgO for the softfa
Planning Manager Johnson said she talked to Jeff Hiner and the Finance Department
She said the playground equipment and the ground cover have to be installed at the
same time She said the project could be overlapped to the following year so it can be
done all at one time She said we would spend the
Q cut of the a far the
5
oftfall and
we can
then da it all atone time
a said
hairThon
t allocate any moneyfarthe faster Plan far Boosinger
they didn
Planning ManagerJohnaan said the students did provide three versions and the
Commissioners did pick and choose out of thane when that made their
recommendation to the council She said she is working with Jeff Hiner to pick and
choose the items to make it affordable
Planning ManagerJohnan said the play equipment that goes into the parks is
yused by children but children never go to the meetings to talk about what
rous
obv
they would want to see at the parks She recommends having four or so designs picked
out and having a meeting ire the perk vuith a public hearing with notices directed to the
children so they can have a voice in choosing the design She said if the intent is there
to have the kids
involved
it will raise their level of
awareness
chair Thomas asked if it would be betterto take it to Shell Beach School
Planning
I
ManagerJohnsan said if most ofthe kids who go to Shell Beach School lived in She
t She said she thinks itwauld be best at Boosinger Park She
Beach butthey don
said we could post a notice at the park and send notices with the kids Commissioner
Guthrie said she liked the idea omrrzissiar
er Leman said it would be nice to have
the children
s
input to
Planning Manager
make the decision
Johnson Bald we might be able to get
thing She said they plan events
a
Cal
Po student
y
to
help
coordinate the whole
Cornrnissioner Guthrie said she thinks
they would get real honest opinions from kids
Planning ManagerJahnon said they would be
at the
park evaluating the equipment
new play equipment available
amazing
annzed at the
iioner Lemon said he
Cornrr
several
was
not
parks
new
within the
and
park
exciting and
was
just
at the
He said it is
the kids
now
a
were
She said it is
sa
creative and
Barney Schwartz Parkwhere there are
setting but the play equipment
beautiful
not enthusiastic
asasked if
ChairThar
lanager
they can previevtirthe play equipmentfirst planning I
Johnson said yes the said the venders here videas of children playing on the various
rthem
equipment the said she rould get the videos and they could viev
Commissioner Guthrie asked if
they could
look it up online
Planning N
anager
Johnson said yes
Ifiem
4
Playground Equipn
ent
hairThornas said the Council didn
vant to
t
Capita Improvement Program
so
somehovu
put any money because that is in the
P fo
regoing to find money in their C
they
do it
em
l
Iralease
hair Thomas said
Item
vie
already talked
about it
sports Park
chair Thomas said the
ovay
it
eras
rritten said
ble
asserr
0far a consultant to
O
O
gg far 2007
00 is in an existing udgetfram
feasibility constraint study He said
Engineering Department and the Engineering Department is also requesting an
additions
OgO He said it got confused Frith the old Price Historic Park on the other
O
side of the creek He said he corrected them about the location of the property and
t happen He said
vuanted the staff to come back vuith a clearer description and it didn
or caused it to be in anon
but
it
did
not
rn out and can
o ac
r
approved status
get thro
be reu
rritten far clarity
Item
Expanded Recreation services far seniors
s
ODg He said that
they gave them Ogg instead of the O
better than nothing He said ire asked far
each
for
the
baseball
fields
O
D
gear
and they gave therr ggg instead
Chair Thomas said
em
I
shell
Beach
ChairThomas said
prover
r
ent
g00 far
they are getting O
each of the tuva years fartheir
improvements
Commissioner Abshere said item 7 bothered him because
surrounding
a
lot of seniors
came
from
areas
Commissioner Lemos said
regarding Boosinger
ofthe parks and asked
1
doing Master Plans for a
Johnson
Planning Manager
said it
eras
gOg
Park
he kna
rs vie talked about
if the
gg0 eras
8
far the
play equipment
forthe pork
OOa far
S
the rubberized surfiace area and the balance of the maneyv
as to be for the remainder
of the varkthe students recommended such as landscaping
ornrnissioner Lemos said it is
he utirant
Poly
to
important
to have
a
Master P
an farthe
parks
He said
rith the master plans as cheaply as possible by utilizing the Cal
up v
rith ProfessorTharnpson
Planning ianaerJohnon said she met v
come
students
that afternoon and he said
they are ready
He told her next Fall he v
ill have another
class and i
rhen
vuilling to use them to help commissioner
they let projects sit like the ralease Park project
Lemon said it is
discouraging
Ianning Iana
erJohnso requested the next meeting be in August the said she
could bring the information an the a Paly student plans to get that going the said the
issioners to revie
rthe plans end pick something to get
timing gas good for the omr
t
v
h
the
students
at
the
end
of
ould also give an
going
September the said she v
hat going on ritb the bathroom at Dinosaur haves Park and an Iralease
u
update on s
too
hairThvms said the
fusibility studyforthe park may not happen in time forvtirhate
need no
r
He said he vuants to rork vith the moneythe council has already released
and get going on those projects in orderof priority He said ghat do eve v
antto get
reen
bet
nova
and
He
said
lraleae
needs
to
plished
accvr
February
get gaing on that
before inflation strips that a
een na
r
and
vay He asked ghat they con accornp
ish betv
next JanuarylFebruary He asked rl7at do ire grant to push and ghat do e v
ant
Carolyn to focus on for us He said Irlease has a Master Plan and its construction
needs to get gaing no matterv
ber one priority He said
het and to him it is nur
continuing rit 8oosinger is important He asked Carolyn ghat direction she needs
from the commissioners to get that going Piannin
ManagerJohnsan said she has
great direction from the ornmission and gill move s quickly as passible on each
project
Commissioner Lemon said
He said
simple thing
1 tie
itself utiri
us
ChairThoma
vie
trying to
t do
can
up He said fine
a
Master Plans forthe
going to be a
including the public artd that
Faster Plan vuithout
tuning Boosinger
is
parks
is nvt
in
lat
a
asked if it is realistic to
Johnson said it
pull off tuvo lUlaster Plans in the year
depends on uhat dal Poly can do foryou
the
annin Manager
said they have a plan for Iraleae so that
s done Chumash i Bono Dinosaur Caves
Park
has
three
done Boosinger
options and needs to be cleaned up the said she
had
a
list
Chair Thomas said
could drive
by
the
hat she could do send the Con
rnissioners a
r
a
ybe v
and
see
vuhat
ones
have
the
most
need
parks
said it
Manning anagerJohnson
might help to
parks
o
to the
rebsite
City v
ist and
they
and go to the
Parks link and it gill fink you up Frith all the
Chair Thomas asked
Garalyn
to send
he is
a
list afthe
hearing from all the Commissioners
parks is the priority forthe next term
Chair Thomas said because
nevu
drag for
be in order
people
to
corns
ire are a
visit
or
that
are
done
He said utirhat
is to continue utirith the master Plans forthe
tourism
revisit
He asked if there is seed
parks
torn
He said
moneyfar
ghat
a
can ire
start
joint meeting
events
developing
ith the
v
as
B rould
rThomas
h
wrapped up
08
projects for FY 00
d
ar
the on
ission discussion vuith
n
possible
a
request for
rents for discussion with the
e
a
list of
IIB
naer Johnson asked the
missioners ft
or
ey are o
aywith cancelling
Pl I
ng
nn
in
and
the
next
Lemos
said
he will be out of
meeting August
July meeting
having
t
i okay commissioners agreed it would be fine
town Carolyn asked if August
the
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none
Ply
Adjournment
Attest
Approved
Jim Thom s
Approved
at the
air
August 9 Q07
aroly J h on
ecretaryto the commission
PRB
meeting