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AMA CHARTER CLUB NO. 329
VOLUME 48
NUMBER 6
JUNE 2002
See story on page 2
Monthly Club Meeting
Friday, June 21, 2002 8 PM
County Council Building/Auditorium
100 Maryland Avenue
Rockville, MD
"Please mark your calendars for the July 19 monthly meeting as DCRC
will pay special tribute to Fred Marks in recognition of his induction into
the “AMA Hall of Fame"
June Meeting Raffle
Saito FA 56 4-Stroke engine
Provided by:
Doug's Hobby Shop
2935 Crain Hwy.
Waldorf, MD 20601
Orders 1-888-DOUGS RC (368-4772)
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DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA RADIO CONTROL CLUB
JUNE 2002
PRESIDENT:
Jim McDaniel
V.P.
Walt Gallaugher
BOARD OF DIRECTORS
Scott Davies
Mike Dooley
Andy Finizio
Walt Gallaugher
Kevin Jackson
Jim McDaniel
Jeff Mervis
Fred Nielsen
Mike Peizer
TREASURER:
301-770-9150
301-843-8818
301-983-8557
301-253-4074
301-963-6091
301-916-0366
301-762-0020
301-299-4375
301-589-8299
Scott Davies
MEMBERSHIP SECRETARY:
Matt Chapman and yours truly,
Matt really enjoyed flying the Super Cub.
Andy Kane
305 Natick Court
Silver Spring, MD 20905-5875
RECORDING SECRETARY:
Jim and Kim McDaniel, These two really
know how to have fun.
Mike Peizer
SHOW TEAM MANAGER:
Paul Howey
NEWSLETTER EDITOR:
Andy Kane 301-236-9222
[email protected]
MEETING PROGRAM COORDINATOR:
Marion Mecklenburg 301-656-6112
The DC/RC Newsletter is published monthly by
the District of Columbia Radio Control Inc. Dead-
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and Author if named. Articles may not reflect the
opinion of the club, but that of the author.
Visit us on the web:
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Each month at the regular club meeting,
raffle tickets are 6 for 5.00, and the prizes are
always great.
Did you know that any airplane brought in
to the model shop will receive 3 free raffle tickets. Bring in your models each month for your
free tickets, and to share ideas.
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Joe Nall 2002
Minutes, Club and Board
Udvar-Hazy Center Update
The Good Stuff/Calendar
Xtra Easy 1-2-3
Presidents Report
Raffle Support/Radio Raffle
What a flight line. Model airplanes and some really beautiful ones,
as far as the eye can see.
pg. 2
pg. 3
pg. 4
pg. 5
pg. 6
pg. 7
BC
Cover: Doug Harper’s Old Cub on New
Floats, and the DCRC crew with Andy
Finizio’s Cub Photo by A. Kane
Saturday Night BBQ Maryland and Florida
Group.
Matt Chapman’s New Rudder Servo Set-up
JR-8411, Nifty Graphics.
JUNE 2002
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA RADIO CONTROL CLUB
BY MIKE PEIZER
The Club meeting was called to order by Jeff Mervis at 8:01
PM.
Reports: There were no reports this month because all the rest of
the Board was attending the Joe Nall event in South Carolina.
This news was greeted with a smattering of applause. The regular
reports will resume next month. This announcement was greeted
with silence.
New Business: Alan Zametkin commented about two people
breaking in engines in the pit area recently. He asked if we could
install a stand somewhere out of the way for breaking in engines.
Michael Peizer commented there is such a stand located at the
north end of the fence, on the pit side, that separates the parking lot
from the pits. We will publicize it in the newsletter and the Board
of Directors will discuss putting up a sign directing members to the
test stand.
Bob Yount asked how the new tables were coming along. We
replied they will be installed by June 9th.
Program: Jeff Mervis provided two half-hour episodes from “RC
TV”. The host is not exactly a polished professional on camera,
but for the most part, the material is interesting. The bulk of the
material presented favors cars, then planes and lastly boats.
Raffle: Tonight’s raffle prize was provided by Michael Peizer
A Rumpler Taube park flyer, from Ikarus, complete with
motor, props, battery, etc. was won by George Edler.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 PM.
The Board meeting was called to order by Jim McDaniel, at
7:24 PM at the home of Jeff Mervis. In attendance were Mike
Dooley, Scott Davies, Andy Finizio, Jeff Mervis, Jim McDaniel,
Fred Nielsen, Andy Kane, Walt Gallaugher, Michael Peizer and
Kevin Jackson.
Jim started off the meeting with a few announcements. We are
planning a small ceremony to acknowledge the induction of Fred
Marks into the AMA Hall of Fame. It will be held at the general
meeting in July, assuming Fred and his family can attend.
The Board meeting for June 26 will be held at the DCRC Field.
The tables have been constructed. All that remains is for the
final assembly at the field this Saturday. The materials for all ten
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tables cost about $1,200.00. Jim McDaniel did the basic assembly
in his spare time.
Michael Peizer remarked that he had gotten a call from Art
Vail of the SWAP Modelers in Baltimore. Art had read in the
newsletter about the delay in erecting a permanent shelter at the
field, and he wanted to let us know about a rather inexpensive
shelter they had found. It measures about 10 feet by 20 feet and
costs about $750.00. Some of the Board members were familiar
with this shelter. After a bit of discussion we decided that it
would be less expensive for us to cover over the permanent 4x4
tent poles we already have in the ground to provide temporary
shelter. This would also distribute the available shade along the
flight line. Thanks to Art for taking the time and effort to call and
suggest an option.
Reports:
Treasurer: Scott Davies reported two expenses over $100.00 since
the April report.
Field Maintenance: The subject of the servicing of the portable
toilet at the field was raised again. It seems it is seeing heavy use
and needs to be serviced more than once a week. Jim said the
phone number of the company is on the side of the toilet. Anyone
who notices the toilet needs to be serviced should feel free to call
the number and inform the company that it needs to be serviced.
Jim will call about its current condition.
The board discussed adding another flag pole across the walkway from the windsock pole. It can be used to hang the club banner for events and Kevin can install an antenna on top for frequency monitoring. We will try to have it in place by June 9th,
county appreciation day.
Newsletter/Membership: Andy Kane reported 219 new members
at this time.
Events: Andy Finizio asked Walt to bring a sound meter to the
county appreciation day event. Walt agreed, but registered doubt
about the efficacy of sound measurements on the ground using our
inexpensive sound meters. Measuring sound levels in the air over
time is a better way to do the measurement, according to Walt.
After a bit of discussion it was decided that Walt would have the
meters at the event and we would measure sound levels on the
ground and in the air.
County appreciation Day flyers were passed out to the Board.
Andy is going to place a small ad in the Gazette as well. The club
trainers will be available at the event so the public can fly for an
hour or so. A jet demo is also scheduled. as well as a Warbirds
and other interesting surprises.
Flight Instruction: Kevin needs someone to be keeper of the
password for the website so the site can be updated in his absence. Andy Kane was nominated to do the job. (while he wasn’t
looking) He accepted.
Sound & Safety: Walt showed the new membership cards with
10 important safety reminders printed on the back. Andy Kane
will print them up, and every membership card issued from now
on will have the safety reminders on the back.
The sign up sheet has about 300 names on it from the past 30
days. Not all members are remembering to sign it. Please sign in
when you go to put your card in the frequency board. Walt figures about 50% of flyers are remembering to sign in. This means
two things. Number one, we have to do better remembering to
sign the use sheet. Number two, the field is getting a lot of use!
The meeting was adjourned at 8:50 PM.
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DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA RADIO CONTROL CLUB
JUNE 2002
Udvar-Hazy Center Update
NATIONAL AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM NEWS
BY LIN EZELL, PROGRAM COORDINATOR
The Smithsonian Institution's
National Air and Space Museum
is building a new museum for the display and preservation of its collection of historic aviation and space artifacts. In honor of its major donor, it
has been named the "Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center."
Located at Washington Dulles International Airport, the Udvar-Hazy
5/02/2002
It won't be long before we are watching IMAX® movies in the theater (round
structure). The horizontal slots in the main hangar will have windows to provide
reflected light to the exhibits inside.
Photo courtesy of Sisson Studios, Inc.
Part of article by John Worth, RC
MicroFlight, May, 2002:
4/2/2002
In late January, the construction team lifted the first giant trusses into place, starting on the north end of the aviation hanger, Structural steel for the circular IMAX
theater is complete and the base of the observation tower awaits the next delivery
of steel beams so it can reach its full height of 162 feet.
Center will provide much needed space for the objects that tell the history
of aviation and space flight.
The Udvar-Hazy Center will be south of the main terminal at Dulles
Airport in northern Virginia, near the intersection of Routes 28 and 50.
The 70,611-square-meter (760,057-square-foot) building will be situated
on 176.5 acres. The design calls for exhibit hangars, an observation tower
from which visitors can watch air traffic at Dulles Airport, collections
storage, classrooms, archives, a large-format theater, restaurants, gift
shops, and more
Over 200 aircraft and 135 spacecraft will be on display, including the
Space Shuttle "Enterprise"; an SR-71 Blackbird reconnaissance aircraft;
the Dash 80 prototype of the Boeing 707; the B-17 Flying Fortress named
"Swoose;" an F-4 Phantom fighter; the B-29 Superfortress "Enola Gay;"
and the de Havilland Chipmunk aerobatic plane, to name a few
For more information visit http://www.nasm.si.edu/
REMINDER ABOUT THE
FIELD USAGE LOG BOOK:
It is very important that we show our support of the model
airpark by using the field usage log book. The log book should
be signed by anyone using the facility. The log book is located
in the transmitter impound.
Scheduled for the evening of June 20 on the History
Channel is a program called "Modern Marvels," which will
feature radio control as its subject-what it is now, and how it
got started. I was asked by an official in the Radio Control
Hobby Trade Association (RCHTA) to provide historical information for the program. I essentially supplied them with
what I wrote in the April issue, in the segment titled, "How
we got here." I also spent several hours on the telephone answering their questions and relating details of RC history. I
hope that the information I provided will be used.
I anticipate that the program will be interesting and factual; the History Channel is noted for its accuracy. It was interesting to think back to the beginnings of RC and what has
happened since then. I also liked being able to pass on a lot of
what we have published in RC MicroFlight.
Welcome to New Club Members in May 2002
Robert McNamara, Gaithersburg
David Waxman, Boyds
Barry and Matthew Ponticelli, Silver Spring
Kenneth and Michael Johnson, Olney
Jorge Nunel, Germantown
Joseph Henry, Washington
Robert Thomson, Silver Spring
Ryan Gould, Germantown
Michael Fox, Gaithersburg
William Freeman, Gaithersburg
Nathan Olyer, Silver Spring
Roger and Jonathan Ford, Gaithersburg
Looking for some plans: Can you help!
I am interested in finding a set of plans or whatever for the Curtis "Jenny" JN4. I am also looking for a set of plans for the Phil Kraft designed "Quik Fli III "
a model I flew years ago and would like to build again. Thank You Tom Rankin [email protected]
410 442-2490 {Past DCRC member}
JUNE 2002
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA RADIO CONTROL CLUB
THE GOOD STUFF
BY DON GRAY
Well Opening Day
is behind
us and what a successful event it was,
thanks to Dave Fepelstein and all of those
who helped make it a Big Go (not to be
confused with Bingo). I recently reviewed
the field sign-in log for a thirty-day period
and realized that I made it out to the field
15 times. Some of us need to get a life.
But regularly flying our miniature aircraft
(some aren’t so miniature) can become an
enjoyable way of life for several of us.
Some professionals even suggest that this
type of regular activity can help us cope
more fully with day-to-day stress and realworld events so many of us face in our hectic lives. And when you can share your
flying outings with fellow modelers, new
and old, it makes it all the better.
This month we start off our photo
shoot with Tony Chow flying his Thunder
Tiger Raptor 30 chopper. The Raptor flies
quite well on an OS 32. Tony is one of our
pilots who flies both fixed wing (airplanes)
and helicopters; using a Mode I transmitter
stick configuration (throttle on the right
stick and elevator/pitch control on the left
stick for you younger pilots). This stick
configuration was popular among several
R/C pilots who flew “Reeds” prior to the
introduction of the modern digital systems
in the mid sixties; including Phil Kraft,
Bob Violet and other well known modelers actively flying competitively in either
pylon or pattern.
The next photo captures a few of
our Senior MWF-Club members mentioned last month, posing between flights
and/or stories. Starting from the left is
Lou Goldberg, Al Anderson, Pat Freeman,
Ron Bozzonetti, and Tony Chow. Models
almost visible in the foreground include
Lou’s GP AT-6 Texan w/Enya 60 4stroke; Pat’s COROSTAR II; and Tony’s
NotForSale, sporting an OS 46fx in the
nose.
Dennis Heffner is shown in the
third photo holding his GP J-3 Cub, which
is powered by an OS 70 Surpass 4-stroker.
In Dennis’ hands, it sounds and flies almost scale. And our final picture this
month shows Chi Lin (a.k.a. Dr. Engine/
Tuned Pipe) holding his Champion 45L,
with a very strong K&B 48 up front which
appears to not be sporting a TP!
Until next month,
see you at the field
and don’t forget to
bring yourself and
a model or two to
County Appreciation Day, June 9th.
For Sale:
Hobbico Superstar Select 40.
It is in great condition only 3 years old. Comes
with an O.S .40 engine installed (Not the LA
type). Four servos installed. It looks just like it
does in the adds but there is a fat yellow strip
around the wings midsection where the two
wing half have been fiberglass together and a
siluete picture of a person on the vertical stabilizer. This plane is a perfect trainer, It had me
flying solo in just 5 flights. $150 obo.
call Josh Adler at 301.469.0504
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JUNE:
1 DCRC Training session
31-2 TOC Of Maryland, SWAP Field
Baltimore [email protected]
8 Freestate Model Warbirds,
9 DCRC County Appreciation Day
13-16 IMAA Rally of the Giants,
Muncie IN
15 DCRC Training session
20 Modern Marvels TV Show,
(History Ch)
21 DCRC Club Meeting
21-22-23 XFC in Dayton Ohio,
Frank Noll
22 PGRC Q-500 Races
26 DCRC Board Meeting (Dooley)
At the field
29-30 PGRC IMAC Contest
Capitol Classic
JULY:
6 DCRC Training session
19 DCRC Club Meeting (Gallaugher)
16-21 IMAC Nationals,
AMA Site Muncie IN
20 DCRC Training session
20-21 Mid Atlantic Warbirds,
Essex Park, MD
24 DCRC Board Meeting (Gallaugher)
AUGUST:
3 DCRC Training session
16 DCRC Club Meeting (Jackson)
17 DCRC Training session
17 PGRC Q-500 Pylon Race
21 DCRC Board meeting (Jackson)
17-18 Frederick Airshow FDK, MD
23-25 Bealeton IMAA, Virginia
www.bealetonflyin.com
31 DCRC Training session
SEPTEMBER:
14 DCRC Training session
20 DCRC Club Meeting (Nielsen)
Nominations
21-22 PGRC Q-500 Races
25 DCRC Board Meeting (Nielsen)
28 DCRC Training session
OCTOBER:
5 PGRC 11th Annual Open
House Fly-In
6 DCRC Oktoberfest
12 DCRC Training Session
12 PGRC Q-500 Races
18 DCRC Club Meeting
(McDaniel) Elections
23 DCRC Board Meeting (McDaniel)
26 DCRC Training session
NOVEMBER
9 last DCRC Training session
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DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA RADIO CONTROL CLUB
Xtra Easy 1-2-3 ?
BY MARY CATHERINE JOHNS LADAS
PHOTOS BY ANDY KANE
Early Saturday required juggling schedules. I had confirmed
complex arrangements and organized chauffeur duties for the day. It was
now the relaxing part of my Saturday morning. The airfield was a haven.
Bob Yount appeared, “She’s the one! She can help us,” I heard
him shout to Andy. I looked over. Bob turned to me, “Can’t you?”
“Sure,” I responded, not even second-guessing my desire to be
helpful. Saturday mornings on the airfield were always pleasant experiences with the generosity of expertise and teaching. I was so appreciative
of everybody’s assistance and kindness in teaching flight preparedness,
safety and flying skills to Louis. “Anything,” I thought.
“Nothing big,” Andy shows me the box with an airplane on it.
“You’re going to put this together for us then fly it.” Andy’s expression
didn’t change. I stood speechless.
I had never built a model airplane but, years ago, I learned of
their life cycle. A box full of balsa wood arrived by UPS truck. After
many days a plane
emerged. I’d go to the
airfield and watch the
first few flights. I
learned about dancing
trees and dodging
cows, and briars. Some
planes withstood hours
of meticulous repair
while others hung in
stages of disrepair. I
had seen bits of balsa
wood pinned to wax
paper covered boards
and had been asked to feel
the smoothness of a sanding job. I had been shown
the importance of sanding
the glue to be imperceptible. I had seen the careful
cutting to extract the most
from a mono-kote roll,
and the process and painstaking effort to prevent
wrinkling. I had been
taught to respect the deli-
JUNE 2002
cate materials and process in building a plane so the plane would be well
balanced. My only experience in flying airplane models was of my
brother’s newly built Jap Zero U-Control. Upon my protest, I was required
to fly this, first. I immediately put it into a nosedive where it met with the
hardened soil. I don’t know whether he felt worse for me, knowing how
badly I felt, or if I felt worse for him knowing how hard he had worked. I
decided model airplane building or flying was not for me.
The box said “Xtra Easy 1-2-3.”
Of course, I didn’t believe it.
It was intimidating.
Andy looked at his watch.
I began.
From the start, the directions were easy to read, and seemed easy
to follow. However, not familiar with the process, I found myself rereading
the directions to help retain the order of what needed to be done. I felt apprehensive handling the wings; afraid I might break through the mono-kote
or damage the underlying structure. Andy assured me I didn’t have to treat
it so gingerly. This proved true and I was able to focus on the fact that putting the plane together mostly involved snapping or slipping parts into
place. All of the materials were enclosed in the box, were easy to find, and
were identified. For example, the servo for the aileron was so marked with
a tab. If I didn’t know a part, i.e. servo, or whether to use the long screw or
the short screw, the
pictures made it
clear. I was usually
surprised by the
quick completion of
a step. The most
difficult part of putting the plane together was in getting
a screw into a recessed part of the
fuselage. After finding the screw I had
dropped in the grass
(thanks, Bob) the
solution was to tape the
screw to the screwdriver
(thanks, Andy.)
This was to be
the first time I was to fly
a radio control model
aircraft. Andy took it off
and gave me three, short
instructions on how to
turn the plane using the
two knobs on the radio
control box. Once the
plane was in straight and
level flight, the controls
didn’t have to be touched.
Andy handed the box off to me. The plane flew as easily as Andy had described, and with appreciably less finesse I was able to keep it in the air
without feeling frantic it would spin out of control. I turned the plane several times for the fun of it. I handed the box back to Andy for the landing. It
had been thrilling to try; and fun to fly.
I couldn’t imagine a less complicated introduction into model aircraft flying. It broke me through a personal threshold and reminded me of the ageold maxim to never count yourself out until you try. I know the intent wasn’t to get me involved, but thank you Andy, Bob, and DCRC for giving me
the opportunity. I enjoyed the Saturday much more than I ever expected.
And in the end, yes, a novice could put together and fly a plane within an
hour. The Xtra Easy 1-2-3 RTF was as easy to assemble and fly for a novice, sans take off and landing, as it was claimed to be. Come with your
plane, boxed or assembled, to one of the upcoming training sessions. Next
two are June 15th and July 6th.
JUNE 2002
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA RADIO CONTROL CLUB
BY JIM MCD ANIEL
“Ketchup”
It truly was and is an honor to have been chosen and receive the
”Outstanding Service Award in memory of Dr Al Montzka”. As I look
over the names of the past recipients, I’m humbled to be a part of this history. At the April Meeting when Charlie was describing who Dr Montzka
was and his unselfish contribution to our hobby I was looking around the
room trying to figure out who might be the recipient? It never entered my
mind to think it was me! Honestly! That having been said, rest assured my
service to the club continues, “Business as usual”.
Our flight instruction program is off to a robust start this year!
As many as 25 students at each session so far. Thanks go to Kevin for
continuing this challenge. Thank You’s go to all the support Kevin receives from both Instructors and Ground help! With out your volunteerism and support this program would not be successful. Remember, you
don’t have to help every time, just as often as your schedule permits.
Opening day was again a great success. Fun was had by all!
Weather was a bit iffy, but still a great turnout. Thanks to David Fepelstein for the good time!
You’ve probably noticed by now the new tables. May 25th
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(Field Clean Up Day) we assembled new tables, 10 in all, six for the Airplane side and four for the Helicopter side. It’s pretty nice having a level
table that you don’t have to leaning over while working on your plane.
DC/RC paid for and constructed these new tables.
Thank You’s go out to Jeff Mervis and Mike Peizer for covering for me at the May meeting while I and the family attended this years
Joe
Nall
in
Greenville South
Carolina. If you
like model airplanes of all kinds
and size from Big
to Bigger, Warbirds, Scale, Scale
Aerobatic, this is
one of the finest
and best display
you’ll find. See
the Pictured insert.
DC/RC is well
represented down
here!
We had a terrific day. A “Field Trip” if you’d like. On May 24, one
of our members (Ron Trower) son (Kevin) convinced his 5th grade teachers at Mill Creek Elementary School to have all eighty (yeah 80) of his
5th Grade classmates come to the Flying Field and learn about Model
Airplanes. With Science being the flavor of the day, we spent a lot of
time talking about what make an “Internal Combustion” engine run, how
does the transmission of the signal/frequency happen etc… These Kids,
Teachers and Chaperones loved this. Many of them had no idea this
hobby even existed. The “word” of the day was “COOL”. As a treat, the
teachers had selected some of the students to actually get on the buddy
box with me and give flying a real time try, instead of just watching.
These kids went from saying; I can’t do this, too? You guessed it,
“COOL”! They had a blast! These Field Trips are geared toward educational and yet are a great opportunity to reach out to our youth and expose them to this hobby of Model Aviation.
As
I
mentioned
earlier, these
Field Trips
are Educational! Well
they are. But
we like to
give a little
extra! I invited Andy
Kane
to
come along
with me and
provide the
“WOW” for
the
day.
Andy put on
an Aerobatic Demonstration that had all, and I mean all the Kids watching in amazement! They couldn’t believe their eyes! It quickly became
obvious, the stuff I had shown them was “COOL”, but the stuff Andy
showed them was “WAY COOLER”.
A heartfelt “Thank You” goes out to Andy, from the kids and I, for taking time out of his day to help perpetuate our hobby.
See you at the June Meeting.
Jim
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Andy Kane
305 Natick Court
SILVER SPRING MD 20905-5875
Hi I'm Doug! Welcome to my Hobby Shop. "May I help you?"
That's what I said to my customers when I first started in the hobby
business. It was a small 2,500 SQ. FT. retail store built to serve hobby
enthusiasts in the southern Maryland area. Well, Thirty years have
gone by and my goal is still the same, complete customer satisfaction
and I still work long hours to attain this.
The only difference I see today are 1) I am now serving hobbyist
all over the United States and 2) I am supported by a tremendous staff,
the D.H.S. Team, who share my aspirations. The D.H.S. team feels
that complete customer service can only be attained by serving you
better today than we did yesterday. We offer quality merchandise at
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It is our pleasure to support the DCRC Club Raffle
E-mail us at [email protected]
Doug's Hobby Shop
2935 Crain Hwy.
Waldorf, MD 20601
Orders 1-888-DOUGS RC (368-4772)
Local (301)843-7774, (301)932-9405
Fax Orders 1-301-870-5592
Store Hours:
Monday - Friday 10 am.- 8 pm.
Saturday 10 am - 6 pm.
Sunday Noon - 4 pm.
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Includes: 10X Transmitter, Metal Transmitter Case
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Drawing to be held Saturday August 24, 2002 at the
Bealeton Flying Circus, Virginia
Need Not be present to Win, Only a limited number of tickets will be sold
See Andy Kane for tickets and more details.