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1. How many years have you had
your business as a wedding
planner?
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2. How many hours per week do
you work in your business?
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3a. How many weddings did your
company coordinate in 2011?
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3b.How many weddings did your
company coordinate in 2010?
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4. Assume you are planning a
wedding for a client with 100
guests. What is a LOW,
AVERAGE, and HIGH budget for
the weddings you plan?
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5. While creating a budget, how
much do most of your clients
think they will pay to hire a
wedding photographer?
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6. How much do your clients
actually spend when they book
with a photographer?
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7. Do most of your clients spend
more money on extra prints and
albums after the wedding?
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8. What is your average fee for
planning a wedding?
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9. What 3 things would you really
like from wedding
photographers?
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“1 - Build relationships with magazine editors and bloggers. Wedding
planners do, because we want to get published. Help your referring
planners by bringing new relationships to the table. 2 - To be flexible in
their day of time. If the timeline changes and you have a segment of
downtime, does an extra 20 minutes really cost you that much that you
have to charge the client extra? Things happen on the day of and it is nice
to have a team of professional who will work to deliver the best results for
the client no matter what. 3 - Get the photos edited and to the client/
wedding planner within 4-6 week. Yes, you are busy, but it will take you
just as much time to edit them today as it will in 4 months. It makes a
huge difference to your clients when they can get their images quickly.”
“1 - communication before the day of the wedding. 2 - teamwork the day
of the wedding. 3 - respect of the timeline. I understand that
photographers are being creative but there are a ton of other aspects
going on too, to be aware of.”
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“1 - To know how much time they really need for photos. 2 Photographers to be proactive about submitting weddings to publications
& blogs. 3 - Include engagement shoots in your package. I know many
couples say they do not want them but then love them.”
“1 - TEAM attitude - we are both working to make this day fabulous for
the couple. 2 - No ego. Be honest about your talent, but if you come
across as arrogant, you won't make it on our list. 3 - SHARE YOUR
PHOTOS. Your art captures our art. If you share, we'll promote the sh*t
out of your services. I promise. If you don't/won't share... we'll hire
someone else.”
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“1 - Images on a CD or downloadable option and small album for my
studio to showcase their work and mines. 2 - Referrals - I feel like I'm
always the one referring photographers and giving them lots of business
but I rarely get them to reciprocate, yet they often times have the
opportunity to refer me if they met with the client before they hire a
planner. 3 - Appropriate vendor credit when they post the wedding on
their blog or submit it for editorial consideration to be published.”
“1 - When I send details over for confirmation- I'd really like follow up from
them that all is ok with them before the wedding day. most just never
answer!! 2 - An easy-to-work with attitude and less arrogance and
difficulty. 3 - Photos sent to my marketing manager quickly after the
wedding, so we're not blogging it 8 months after the wedding. We should
be a priority, right after the couple- it's free marketing for you!”
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10. What would your BRIDES
love from wedding
photographers?
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“Clear, easy to understand packages. Not to try and get them into a huge package
that they may be overpaying for. Not price gauge them if they don't purchase a
package with an album at the signing time. Be respectful and be honest about how
many photos can be taken in the time allotted.”
“The best pictures ever. And none of the gimmicks - no more mustache props, ironic
shots, etc. And be willing to tell them if something is tasteless (usually my job!). They
also love tons of candids and a wait of under 4 or 6 weeks for a digital gallery.”
“Jaw-dropping pictures! To be treated like a rock-star any time they're in front of your
camera!”
“Creative suggestions for engagement sessions- cool spots, fun props, something
fresh that they haven’t seen 50 times!”
“To make them look and feel prettier, richer, more talented, more creative than their
reality often dictates.”
“Better response time to emails, ability to work well with different personalities during
family portraits, and quick turnover time from the wedding day to editing to delivery.”
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11. How do you determine which
photographer to refer to a
particular client?
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“I match-make personality, budget fit and style to my bride. Most brides
prefer photographers who are NOT in their face all night.”
“It's a gut thing. After 300 plus weddings, I just "know".”
“Based on what style of photography they're interested in - more postprocessing work/ less / photojournalistic, candids; pricing; packages.”
“We have a comprehensive questionnaire that each of our clients
completes that assists us in creating a dreamscape for their event. From
that we gather a pretty concise picture of what vendors within our arsenal
would be the best fit to meet their needs and desires.”
“Customer service is first and foremost important to me. If I know a
photographer treats a client poorly, I will not refer people to them. After
that, the bride's budget and style are most important. If she is shy &
conservative, I wouldn't send her to a photographer know for hot & sexy
photos.”
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12. What is most important to
your brides in hiring a
photographer?
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“The majority need to resonate with the sample images or blog of the
photography as the first step toward selection. From there they can
imagine how this photography will view their day. Many of the brides look
for specific things-- ie. trendy shots, non-posed group photos that are
natural, natural lighting flares and beauty. Rarely is it all about price we
find. It is more about talent and style.”
“A photographer that can capture the day while telling a story rather than
creating pictures to try to tell their own story. No more formal stuffy
pictures- turn your head this way, feet like this, hands like this....”
“Quality and chemistry - they are with the photographer all day so it's
important there is a connection.”
“RELATIONSHIP! They want to hire someone that they feel comfortable
with. They want that connection. Great photos, great albums, these things
help. That initial impression (aka do NOT meet at Starbucks) has swayed
more of my clients than I can count. Be genuine!”
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13. How many photographers
are on your referral list?
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14. How many photographers do
you refer to one bride?
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15. How often do you add new
photographers to your referral
list?
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16. What does a new
photographer have to do to get
on your radar?
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“Often times a new photographer has already been hired by the client.
When this photographer demonstrate their team spirit on the day of, and
deliver amazing images quickly, I will promptly refer them to new clients.
I've also had photographers offer to shoot one of my clients wedding for
free, as well as photographers who sent me one of their clients so that
we'd have the opportunity to work together.”
“I have to see their work and it has to be great. Someone else should
refer. I do not entertain photographers that email me ESPECIALLY by my
online submission form.”
“Gentle but consistent follow-up - DO NOT OFFER ME REFERRAL FEES,
offer discounts to clients in lieu of. I am really turned off by any vendor that
flat out offers me referral fees.”
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“Contact me! show me your portfolio get other vendors to buzz about
them. Easy to work with is beneficial.”
“I will not try a new photographer unless the client suggests it.
Photography is not something I’m willing to take a chance on UNLESS
the photographer the client has chosen produces bad work. IF I don't
know this vendor, I will schedule a meeting separately, I will view their
work, check references and ask to see an entire wedding .... not just their
best pictures.”
“Have a professional website, stunning photos and a friendly personality.
Willing to work with special requests goes a long way.”
“Probably, I'll hear about a new talent from another vendor - floral
designer, draper, musician - if it is vetted through the industry that there's
a new hot talent, then I am all ears. I love new talent!”
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“Reach out w/out being annoying; join NACE or other organizations and
be involved; show they are going to be around for a while and care.”
“Meet me in person either through a networking event or a scheduled
meeting. I don't care for new photographers to demand to be ion my
vendor list right away. Building a relationship is key. Maybe offer to shoot
something (small) for me complimentary so that I can see how we work
together.”
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17. Has the economy changed
how you refer photographers?
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18. When is it appropriate to
mediate or negotiate with
photographers on behalf of the
bride?
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Sometimes (please specify) - “I would never undermined someone’s art, but would ask
for 1 hour of rehearsal coverage.”
Sometimes (please specify) - “I NEVER negotiate down pricing - but sometimes I will
work with a photographer to customize a package that best meets my clients needs.”
Sometimes (please specify) - “We do not haggle down pricing- but if a photographer
can throw something in for working with us- (3) 8x10's that they can frame- or some
prints from an engagement session that makes us look good, the client feels like they
are getting a better deal and you book a client.”
Sometimes (please specify) - “If I think a photog is going to loose the business I will
give them a heads up and they can decide if they wish to negotiate.”
Sometimes (please specify) - “Because we have good relationships with some
photographers, we might be able to ask for an upgrade or other incentive based on
amount of business we refer.”
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19. Do you ever request a
commission from the
photographers you refer?
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Sometimes (please specify) - “No, but I never turn down their offers to
shoot my family, our magazine or blog articles. But cash is not
exchanged.”
Sometimes (please specify) - “Any vendors that do offer commission are
asked that this is passed on to the client as a discount.”
Sometimes (please specify) - “I tried to say no but wanted to comment as
well. Our top 3 usually give a gift certificate of some sort at the end of the
season for the referrals we give them.”
Sometimes (please specify) - “Absolutely NOT - ITS UNETHICAL AND
ILLEGAL.”
Sometimes (please specify) - “All the time....who are we kidding.”
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20. Do you ever accept
commissions from the
photographers you refer?
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21. How can photographers help
contribute to creating a schedule
for wedding day timeline?
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“I don't need their input for the flow of the night. As a designer I design
not just how the wedding looks but also how it feels. I have a long
standing relationship with the client that no other vendor enjoys. I am the
coach with all the details. Photographers and other vendors can
contribute by being respectful of the plan the bride and I have put
together. She is the CEO, I am the COO.”
“We have this under control.”
“Respond in a timely manner when I call to discuss details. We want as
much information as possible; if a bride has given the photographer a
huge list of family shots, we need to know so that we can plan enough
time.”
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“Take a look at my schedule and give input - or reach out early (like 2
months early) and ask to sit down and chat about it. We could get a lot
done over coffee!”
“I believe that showing your clients the benefits of first looks and preceremony photos is a big help with the timeline of the day from the shear
factor of shaving off time between ceremony and reception. This is
especially important when events are held at the same venue and guests
are present the entire time. The poor caterers are left to regal the guests
with tray after tray of appetizers :). But I think when we work together as
partners in the timeline creation with the photographers imparting realistic
time frames for certain photo segments, it assists the planners to keep the
event in motion during those times.”
“We know our business. We know how long is needed for getting ready,
for first looks, for family portraits and transport. Don't mess with my
timelines.”
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“Tell the planner how much time will you need based on the client's
expectations, the amount of time and also don't offer packages with very
few hours if you KNOW that the couple will always need more time. At
least be honest if you offer those packages for whom are they created
for.”
“Communicate to the planner your requested timing, but know you may
not always get all of the time you want. I had a photographer who wanted
a full 1 hour for "first look" -- excluding family photos, bridal party. It just
wasn't realistic for their timeline and their reception. Let the planner know
ahead of time too if you want to do portraits at/near sunset.”
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22. What should a photographer
wear on a wedding day?
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“It all depends on the type of wedding. Black tie wedding.... tuxedo, I
would expect a suit with a black shirt (no tie) at a wedding at the Four
Seasons, black slacks with a black shirt at a barn wedding or at a hip
venue in the city. Not one attire fits all. Ask your client what is the formality
of the event.”
“Black - nice outfit. Seriously, not some junky jeans + faded shirt. if it's a
black tie wedding, please dress it up a little and don’t wear toms.
Professional clothing. I could care less if it is all black. Just not a fan of
casual all black clothing. Just because it is all black, does not make it
appropriate. It is someone's wedding. :o)
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23. What are your photographer
“pet peeves”?
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“1)Just a lack of understanding as to how much time and energy we have
put in to that one day. In my case, I put in at 300-400 hours and have
been through a rollercoaster of emotions and planning with the couple.
We know a lot and have invested a lot. Respect that. 2) A lack of
awareness that the work you are photographing is OUR art.
Photographers may take the photo that the copyright they hold license to
do whatever they want with them. This may be true with photographs of
people but details are what the magazines want and those details are our
intellectual property 3) Sending photos to magazine editors without
involving the planner. Often, photographers don't consider that they are
representing our brand with a wedding they submit. Just as you want to
edit out some of your less flattering photos, we want to edit out the least
flattering decor shots. 4) Blogging photos without notifying the
client...NOT OK. 5) Please don't give out vendor details to publications
without checking with us. In some cases, the information is proprietary...
we don't necessarily want every other planner knowing our trade secrets.”
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“Believing that is about "him or her" when is really about our clients.
Thinking that because they shoot more weddings a year, than the average
planner, they know everything about the planning process. Not being able
to lead a group or a family at the portraits.”
“I'm a firm believer in the never let them see you sweat theory- so if it's a
stressful situation, the bride is running late, your battery died, your digital
card is full, your assistant didn't show up, whatever it is- we just need to
smile through and know that we as a team can make it done- it's the
photographers that get furious, yell, cuss, throw things and show their
emotions. A bride didn't pay for that- they want you always smiling so that
all they have to do back is smile. No added stress for the bride!!”
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“Getting into people's faces, screaming at family to get into a photo, not
being vocal enough with family formals, cutting in line at the buffet,
complaining about when they get fed, not communicating with the
videographer, etc.”
“I think you guessed it...not reading/adhering to the timeline. also not
communicating. of course you can have fifteen more minutes if you need
them, but let us know - don't just disappear with the bride and groom
right before they are introduced into the reception. Divas in general are my
pet peeve...we are all accomplished professionals at this level, so check
the attitude at the door...”
“Ones that do not respect my timeline. Grumpy photographers. Bringing
so much lighting equipment that they are an eyesore and hazard for
everyone. Those who demand a vendor meal. Unprofessional
photographers who hit the bar for a drink and dress inappropriately.”
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“Taking only 1 picture of a centerpiece, from one angle. Need more than
that....usually ends up with an exit sign or something not attractive behind
that one shot, or a flower is hanging oddly, etc... Not enough detail
shots...think magazine layout...they want details. Using too much flash on
detail shots. Putting their logo all over the iages. I don't see those on your
site, why would I want them that way on mine. AND if all photographers
did that then my site would look horrible and distracting! I will give you
credit where I can. I spend a lot of time cropping logos out. Worse is
having to chase down photographers to get images, all planners complain
about that. That's why I work with a handful of regulars.....they are easy to
work with and get what I want.”
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“Ask me at what time are we eating. If you are that hungry.... pack a couple of snacks.
I'm hungry too but I'm not the one serving the food. Photographers that don't read or
look at the timeline on the day of the event and constantly ask questions about what is
happening. Being rude to guests or the wedding party.”
“My biggest pet peeve EVER is when photographers don't do enough editing! I had a
photographer send a client 4000 images, which they said were the "best". I don't care
how much someone loves pictures of themselves, 4,000 is too much! Even 1,200
frankly is too much. We don't need 10 shots of the shoes or the rings. Be confident on
which one (or which setting) is best and send that. Edit out pix with closed eyes. Be
confident enough to edit it down to the best 800 or whatever number you're
comfortable with. Over 1,000 is daunting frankly for anyone.”
“The DIVA attitude. I know that sounds funny coming from a planner, but we are very
down to earth, as should they. I work with some of the most amazing photographers
in the world, and they have no worries about what or when they are eating, they know
I will take care of them. Then I get the guy that just picked up his camera a year ago
charging $2300 for a wedding package, and right after the ceremony wants to know
what time vendor meal is.”
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24. What mistakes do you see
photographers make on the
wedding day?
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“Forcing couples to take a shot they are not comfortable with just for the
sake of the portfolio.”
“If you are not sure about the location- walk through- is there another
wedding at that location on the wedding day? Know where it will be- no
crossing brides- bad karma! Not looking at the detail shot list we sent- yes
the one that stated to please get a shot of the wine bottle at the dinner as
it was from the Brides' family vineyard and we had to jump through hoops
to get it served at the 5 star resort.”
“Photographers who constantly check their images after each photo they
take. It takes up too much time! Photographers who miss important shots
because they're distracted.”
“Taking too long with pictures, ignoring timeline which screws up every
other vendor, not taking charge of group photos which leads to chaos,
not reading the couple to see when they are BORED and want to be
done!”
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“Too much equipment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate seeing umbrellas set up
everywhere! Horrible and distracting!”
“Not being assertive enough during group photos and then running out of
time, because they couldn't wrangle the family properly.”
“Blocking parents view of ceremony, wearing inappropriate clothing,
saying inappropriate things to bride, groom, parents or my team, not
working well with the videographer.”
“Taking photos of tables without chairs, incomplete place settings,
unfinished ceremony areas etc... just ask if the shot is ready!!! Taking
photos of tent/room interiors with wait staff in them - hate that. Just ask
them to step aside for a minute...”
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“Why are two photographers shooting the same angles?! Also, sometimes
the main shooter, you can tell that they haven't worked to often with the
2nd shooter they hired for the day, and there is a lot of talking about
lenses and where to shoot or it seems like it's a "training" day…a little too
obvious in front of everyone. I think if there needs to be training, then
maybe the main shooter needs to have a walk thru with 2nd
shooter..before they are on the clock. Come to the venue 1/2 hour before
or an hour, and walk the space for areas that are shaded or where the
ceremony processional is going to be. Talk ahead of time about who is
getting the close up shots, the far away shots, have a game plan. BUT
have this discussed before your clients are in front of you, or do
discreetly.”
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25. Think of your favorite
photographers to work with. How
would you describe them?
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“1 - Easy going 2 - Have read the timeline or schedule for the day. 3 Take kick ass pictures.... Pictures are memories they are not a piece of
paper that someone mounts on a wall. They are memories.”
“1 - Fun + easy going - not drama queens. 2 - Talented -- can shoot fast
portraits, details, good couple shots. 3 - Understand that getting
weddings published + images to planners is crucial for future referrals (we
need our best work to book new brides to refer to you!!)”
“1 - Enormously talented 2 - Terrific team players. 3 - Fun people to be
around.”
“1 - Very personable - can relate to a multitude of personalities 2 Dedicated to their profession - they are constantly working on improving
their skills and the quality of images 3 - Brilliant editors - I don't refer
photographers that can't edit.”
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“1 - Beauty 2 - Vision 3 - Art”
“1 - They are always on time. 2 - They take the pressure off the bride &
groom (both on wedding day and in planning appointments) by making
them feel comfortable and putting smiles on their faces. 3 - They make
their clients feel like the most beautiful couple they've ever seen.”
“1 - Funny, easy going, passionate about their work and my client's
wedding, team player. 2 - Sincere, genuine, truly invested in providing my
client with amazing images 3 - Professional, punctual, willing to do
whatever it takes for that amazing shot.”
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26. Do you have a favorite “hero
story” when a photographer went
above and beyond their expected
services?
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“Picked my couple up in his car when he passed them broken down on
the highway in their classic car on the way home.”
“I had a wedding years ago with a Jewish couple, who didn't really honor
their heritage throughout, but on the wedding night decided they wanted
to suddenly do the hora. The DJ didn't have Hava Nagila in his playlist, so
the photographer grabbed his laptop, found free wifi in the middle of the
street, and with my itunes account number, we downloaded the song, ran
back to the DJ, plugged it in and played it in the nick of time.”
“I think the good ones do it every weekend!”
“One of our favorite photographers backed into a cactus bush during
family portraits. In spite of the pain and quills stuck in her leg, she kept
going. Finished the shots, shot the ceremony and only then stopped to let
us help her get them out of her leg!!”
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“Two weeks before the wedding, the groom (a fireman) injured his back and had to
have surgery. Needless to say, he was in a lot of pain for the wedding. He made it
through the ceremony, but couldn't even come to the reception. He stayed in their
hotel room upstairs, and we set food to him. Their photographer was so sweet, when
he was feeling better several weeks later they got dressed back in their wedding
clothes and she took them out to do some additional portraits at no charge.”
“Despite food being allocated for them I often see photographers forego a meal so as
to capture elements elsewhere. They work hard!”
“Too many to even tell. Sewing dresses, helping load in or out, giving me a heads up if
something is wrong.”
“15 minutes after arriving onsite, my favorite photographer fell from a chair and broke
her ankle. She was in serious pain, but we jumped to action. Started calling every
photog we knew and within 30 minutes we had 2 more photogs there, ready to pull off
an amazing event! The bride and groom were beyond thrilled and we didnt miss a
beat! Those photogs were willing to come in, during their only saturday off in june, to
help a friend- LOVE our wedding community :)”
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27. After the wedding, how do
you prefer to see the images?
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“Slideshow first, and then where I can download them or send me a disk.
DO NOT WHATEVER YOU DO send a planner a disk of over 800 images.
They will not have time to go through it, and it won't get into their submit
file for the blog/website or to their editor connections.”
“I love to see them online- but let us know!”
“Fast!! :) and digitally”
“DVD (HATE HATE HATE having to scroll through sites and just see slow
thumbnails that take forever to load)”
“On a CD - UNWATERMARKED!!! Decent size, if not hi res.”
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“JUST SEND ME A DISK OF EVERYTHING!!! Yes, I am yelling!!! Don't
make me select images please! If I have a full disk, I will use them in the
main page slideshow, on the blog for unrelated posts, etc. PLEASE send
me everything!!!!!!”
“I LOVE it when my favorite photographers just send me a disk of 50 to
100 high res images that they love and think will work well for a planner. I
also look at pictage or collages, but I want to see the photographers
favorites folder because I don't have time to look at 600 images of each
wedding I work on.”
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28. Do you want to select your
favorites?
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29. What Social Media do you
use to promote your business?
Please mark all.
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30. Do you follow any
photographer blogs regularly? If
so who?
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31. How do you show images to
perspective clients?
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“Past event blogs, brag books, albums sent by photographer,
photographers site/portfolio.”
“I adore when a photographer will give me a link to a video of images that
I can share with perspective clients- that allows me to email the link but
also it's not just 2-3 images it helps tell the story of the day that we
planned. Many images!”
“I mostly send them to their blogs to see their most recent work. I also
have some sample albums.”
“Portfolio book that I create in-house with images from all my weddings from all the professional photographers with credit to each of them. Web
site has a gallery of images as well.”
“Web, iPad, slideshow.”
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32. What should photographers
keep in mind when making you
sample albums?
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“Don't make me sample albums. Who wants to carry a big album around? I
don't. Make a great collage online or images that I can show my client. Share
them with the venue. Write a blog post and tag/put links for the other vendors.”
“Don't combine a few weddings we have done, each wedding should have their
own album. And definitely, not a collage of their best work, as it may be work of
other planners, and remember, we are trying to sell ourselves.”
“As much as we love the people- a mix of pretty bride and grooms + details is
better. It is like selling a house- you want your clients to be able to picture
themselves in that house- so you have to show the pretty without being to
personal.”
“We don't ask for them or keep them here - i know it is costly to them, and with
the advent of the ipad, not necessary in my opinion.”
“I wish more photographers would offer sample albums. They offer venue
albums but not planners as much. We love detail shots, beautiful room shots,
and beautiful bride and groom photos!”
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33. How important is it to get
your weddings published on a
scale of 1 to 10. 10 being most
important.
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34. Who do you prefer to submit
your weddings for publishing?
Select All.
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35. Any last advice to convey to
wedding photographers?
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“Use Two Bright Lights. Don't forget about same-sex clients. Don't have flash
websites.”
“Share pictures..... for free. I've been seeing a lot of photographers charging for
pictures. If the planner referred you, or the venue, or the florist, or the DJ why
would you charge this vendor for images? Make yourself look good... share it.
Put your watermark or logo on them. I don't mind if you do this.”
“Pay your dues and work with a professional. Stop "practicing" on someone's
special day.”
“Remember to say thank you for the referrals. also, please HELP US educate
brides on why planners are SO important. And there is no such thing as a "day
of coordinator" :)”
“Help us help you get more weddings, give us images to show your work. Give
us great images and let's get published!”
“We love good photographers - just know we are a team, not enemies. And
don't bitch about videographers in front of clients! Some people love them. :)”
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“Love us as much as we love you! What do I mean? I love photographers and the
ones I work with can vouch that I treat them well, and all I ask for in return is
appreciation. No kickbacks, no commissions, just give me a small album, or a wall
print for my studio, a thank you card or a referral will go along way. I strongly feel
photographers need us as much as we need them and I do believe we can make the
day go much smoother with a qualified and experienced planner on board, not to
mention a designer like myself will create crazy details for you to shoot, so act like you
want to work with me, because if you don't, I know a ton of other photographers who
will!”
“(good quality/experienced) Planners are your friends and partners! Make it a part of
your standard operating procedure to include the planner after the wedding, by
sending them a DVD or album or both. The planner should not have to seek out the
photographer. There has never been a time that I have NOT wanted images after an
event that I did, so it is safe to assume they want them. In many cases, the event that
you are photographing, all the details and even the relaxed nature of the couple is due
to a planners intricate involvement in every last detail (big and small) of an event. They
put in multiple hours, blood, sweat and tears to create the perfect day for a couple. If
the photographer could recognize the significance of this, I think it would change their
perspective not only on how they shoot the event, but in how they treat the planner
before, during and after the wedding day.”
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“SUBMIT YOUR STUFF. Become friends with planners. Make us look
good, and we'll sell your services like crazy. STOP worrying about what
your competition is doing and stay focused on your business and your art,
and you'll kick some serious ass!”
“Sounds cliched, but just be 'real'. Do it your own way in your own style,
don't look at what anyone else is doing and you will book the right client
for you. Getting work published is important to everyone but don't make it
the be all and end all, remember that your images are capturing the most
important day of your clients' lives and it's most important that they love
them. Anything else is just a bonus ;-)”
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“Thank You to the 100 wedding
planners that shared their expert
opinions with me. I take your
message forward to photographers
to inspire change.”- Joe Photo
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