prezidentis bolo aqti

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prezidentis bolo aqti
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009), fasi 2 lari
#9 (009) oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013
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oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
`azarti ar iyo~
ramaz sayvareliZe:
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arCevnebze, mis
pozitiur da negatiur
mxareebze da rogor
unda imoqmedes axlad
arCeulma prezidentma,
imisTvis rom iyos
warmatebuli? `premiers~
politologi ramaz
sayvareliZe esaubra.
batono ramaz, sam dRis
win
saqarTvelom axali
prezidenti airCia.
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wlis saprezidento
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kinomusika filmebisTvis
Shadow of Doubt, Fallen
amerikaSi aRiarebuli
qarTveli musikosi zaza
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mosaxleobis dabali
aqtivobiT Tu
vimsjelebT, qveyanas
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mqone prezidenti hyavs,
es faqti safrTxis
Semcveli xom ar aris
qveynis politikuri
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obis aqtivoba 50%-ze maRali ar aris, radgan arCevnebi
yvelgan mSvidobianad tardeba. amitom es didi ubedureba ar aris. yvela arCevnebze
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`nacionalur
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ras fiqrobT
margvelaSvilis
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ivaniSvilis ganacxadebiT,
is gakvirvebulia
`nacionaluri
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kandidatisadmi
amomrCevlis
mxardaWeriT, Tumca
miiCnevs, rom es qveynis
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iyo, dadebiTad Sesafasebeli
ar aris.
mec mimaCnia, rom gavlenas
ver iqoniebs. SeiZleba
dasawyisSi garkveuli emociebi iyos, magram sabolood is
araferSi aisaxeba.
Tqveni azriT, raze unda
gaakeTos aqcenti giorgi
margvelaSvilma, rom is
warmatebuli prezidenti
iyos?
sakuTar Tavze.
konkretulad, ras
gulisxmobT?
normalur qveynebSi mosaxle-
axlad arCeuli
prezidentis giorgi
margvelaSvilis
gancxadebiT,
unda iyos Tavdajerebuli,
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problemur sakiTxs xelisuflebis sxvadasxva Stos
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es aris Tqveni
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wlis Semdeg baTumSi,
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programa, ra
repertuariT wardgebiT
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aravis
mousmenia.
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uxvad gveqneba.
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`saCuqari Tbiliss~ axali
orleanidan Camovidnen
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brau, roland guerini
da dag belouti, am
ori welia, rac saqarTveloSi vcxovrob. am periodis
ganmavlobaSi movaxerxe da
vipove saukeTeso musikosebi.
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Cems musikalur ojaxsac ki
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premieri
axali ambebi
`arCevnebi namdvilad
demokratiulad
Catarda, Tumca bevrs
daaviwyda, rom
yofili premieri
dRemde cixeSia~
poloneTis parlamentis
sadamkvirveblo misiis xelmZRvanelma e.w. matrosovis
cixeSi
“nacionaluri
moZraobis” generaluri mdivani vano merabiSvili moinaxula.
“saqarTveloSi arCevnebi
namdvilad demokratiulad
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
sergi kapanaZe:
axali ambebi
`xelisuflebam unda gaigos,
rom droa, morCnen warsulsa
da opoziciaze saubars~
aleqsi nozaZe
`premiers~ saqarTvelos
reformebis asociaciis
- GRASS-is
xelmZRvaneli sergi
kapanaZe esaubra:
arCevnebma uprecedentod
mSvid viTarebaSi Caiara.
pirvel rigSi,
sainteresoa, ra mesiji
eba
`nacionalur
moZraobasac~.
saqarTvelos
mosaxleobis umetesobam
arCevnebSi monawileoba
ar miiRo, ra SeiZleba
iyos amis mizezi?
mizezi, albaT, ramdenimea.
pirvel rigSi, is, rom es ar
aris gadamwyveti arCevnebi
saqarTvelosTvis. SarSandeli arCevnebi bevrma aRiqva,
rogorc
gadamwyveti
arCevnebi. amasTanave, SarSan
ras
gulisxmobT?
daaxloebiT iseTi ritorikis
gagrZelebas, rac arCevnebis
meore dRes ukve vnaxeT ramdenime satelevizio gadacemaSi _ kerZod, saubari imaze,
rom, ki dakarga `ocnebam~ 200
aTasi amomrCeveli, magram,
samagierod, nacionalebma 500
aTasze meti dakargeso. albaT, xelisuflebam unda gaigos, rom droa, morCnen warsulsa
da
opoziciaze
saubars da saqmes mixedon.
axla aRar eqnebaT gamama-
winaswari amoqmedeba/ZalaSi
Sesvla. magram mTavari saqme
amis mere iwyeba. am xelSekrulebebs Sesruleba sWirdeba. rac imas niSnavs, rom
saWiro iqneba Zalian koncentrirebuli da efeqturi sakanonmdeblo muSaoba, Semdeg
ki aRsruleba. amitom xelisuflebas mTeli resursis
mobilizeba dasWirdeba, rom
es SeTanxmeba warmatebiT Sesruldes.
Catarebul
naTelaSvilma
SesaZloa quCis
aqciebi daiwyos
Salva naTelaSvilma SesaZloa quCis aqciebi daiwyos.
saqarTvelos pirveli lei-
boristi xmebis xelaxla
daTvlas iTxovs. misi saCivari cesko-Sia.
mSromelTa
partiis
lideri SeerTebuli Statebis diplomatiuri warmomadgenlobis xelmZRvanelebs
Sexvda. misi gancxadebiT,
saelCos gadasca dokumentebi, romelic adasturebs,
rom arCevnebi gayalbda.
mSromelTa partiis xelmZRvaneli
saelCodan
pirdapir hipermarket “karfurTan” mivida da kidev
erTi gancxadeba swored am
teritoriaze gaakeTa.
axali ambebi
Cemi azriT, gzavnili is aris,
rom saqarTveloSi grZeldeba demokratiuli arCevnebis
tradicia, romelic SarSan
daiwyo, da rom arCevnebia is
gza, romliTac xalxi irCevs
Tavis xelmZRvanelobas. me
minda, rom es iyos mTavari
gzavnili, romelsac miiRebs
dasavleTi da saerTaSoriso
Tanamegobroba. meore gzavnili, albaT, unda iyos is,
rom Cven kidev erTi mniSvnelovani testi CavabareT
demokratiis gzaze da es sakmarisi unda iyos qveynis
evropuli da evroatlantikuri integraciis kursis
gasaRrmaveblad. samwuxarod, sxva gzavnilebic iqneba,
romlebsac ver gaveqceviT.
magaliTad, yvelasTvis naTelia, rom es arCevnebi mainc
individebis popularobiT
aris gansazRvruli, Tumca,
amjerad ara uSualod kandidatis, aramed mis ukan mdgomi Zlieri figuris. igive ex-
arCevnebis win ganviTarebulma movlenebma ganapiroba
xalxis seriozuli mobilizacia. wels winasaarCevno garemo ufro mSvidi iyo, Sesabamisad, mobilizaciac naklebi
moxda. meore ganmapirobebeli iyo is, rom `qarTuli
ocnebis~ mmarTvelobis erTma weliwadma aCvena, rom es
mTavroba ar aris efeqturi
mTavroba. sxvaTa Soris, aseve
xdeba iluziebis msxvreva `nacionalur moZraobasTan~
dakavSirebiT. welsac da SarSanac, orive partiis mxardamWerebma CaTvales, rom
arCevnebze wasvla ar Rirda,
radgan maT aqvT iluziebis
ngrevis gancda. SarSan, oqtomberSi `qarTulma ocnebam~ milion asi aTasze meti
xma moagrova. wels mxolod
900 aTasze meti. anu, TiTqmis
orasi aTasi amomrCevliT
naklebma dauWira mxari. es
maTTvis seriozuli gzavnili
unda iyos. yvelaze cudi, rac
`qarTulma ocnebam~ SeiZleba axla gaakeTos, aris TviTmkayofilebas micema.
rTlebeli argumenti is, rom
kohabitacia uSlidaT xels
da amitom ver midioda qveyana win.
margvelaSvilma
ganacxada, rom mTavari
sazrunavi iqneba
vilniusis samiti,
amavdroulad dsT-s
liderebi (lukaSenko,
ianukoviCi) saqarTvelos
dsT-Si epatiJebian. ra
molodinebi arsebobs
saqarTvelosTvis `axal
politikur eraSi~?
es swori gzavnilia. vilniusis samitze yvelaferi gadawyvetilia da is, rom es samiti warmatebuli iqneba, mTlianad saqarTvelos damsaxurebaa da namdvilad araa romelime konkretuli mTavrobis,
arc amJamindelis da arc
winasi. vilniusSi moxdeba
asocirebis xelSekrulebis
parafireba. amis yvelaze
mniSvnelovani komponentia
Tavisufali vaWrobis xelSekruleba. am orive xelSekrulebas gaisad unda moeweros xeli da, Sesabamisad,
gaisadve
moxdes
maTi
sagareo saqmeTa ministris maia fanjikiZis ganmartebiT, prezidentis wlevandeli inauguracia ar
iqneba iseTi pompezuri
rogoric adre gvinaxavs.
rogorc fanjikiZem Jur-
arCevnebTan
da warmatebiT Catarda,
Tumca bevrs daaviwyda, rom
yofili premieri dRemde
cixeSia. Cven moviTxovT, rom
is politikuri sarCuli,
romelic mis saqmes axlavs,
aucileblad iqnes ganxiluli axali prezidentis
mTavrobaSic, ise, rogorc
demokratiul standartebs
Seefereba. viciT, rom uaxloes momavalSi dagegmilia
vilniusis samiti, romelsac
saqarTvelosTvis udidesi
mniSvneloba
aqvs
da
vfiqrob, am sakiTxs samitzec
ganixilaven”, - aRniSna
mavgorJata goSevskam.
gaugzavna saerTaSoriso
Tanamegobrobas
qarTvelma amomrCevelma
margvelaSvilis arCeviT?
prezidentis
wlevandeli
inauguracia ar iqneba
iseTi pompezuri,
rogoric adre
gvinaxavs
dakavSirebiT rogoria
saerTaSoriso
eqspertebis kuluaruli
Sefasebebi?
gaaCnia, vin afasebs. Zalian
bevr saerTaSoriso eqsperts
miaCnia, rom es iyo seriozuli nabiji win. Tumca, arian
iseTebic, maT Soris, Cvens
megobar qvenebSi, romlebic
amboben, rom es monapovari
mxolod maSin iqneba materializebuli, Tu ar gagrZeldeba politikuri oponentebis devna. Zalian bevr saerTaSoriso partniors aRizianebs da aSinebs e.w. `samarTlianobis aRdgena~, radgan yvelam kargad icis, rom
aseTi lamazi frazebis qveS
xSirad kudianebis devna iwyeba xolme. saboloo jamSi,
es arCevnebi SeiZleba iyos
didi nabiji win. giorgi margvelaSvili ukve xalxis mier
arCeuli prezidentia da imedi maqvs, rom is SeZlebs im
didi ndobis gamarTlebas,
romelic mas arCevnebze misuli amomrCevlebis 60 procentze metma misca. minda
mivuloco mas es gamarjveba
nalistebTan ganmarta, jerjerobiT ar aris gagzavnili mosawvevebi inauguraciisaTvis. misive ganmartebiT,
aRniSnul sakiTxze gadawyvetilebas specialuri komisia miiRebs, romelic uaxloes dReebSi Seikribeba.
sagareo saqmeTa ministris ganmartebiT, prezidentis inauguracia savaraudod TbilisSi, parlamentis
yofil SenobasTan gaimarTeba.
„Tavad inauguracias rac
Seexeba, Tu ar vcdebi is parlamentis win unda Sedges,
radgan arsebobs Sesabamisi
brZanebuleba, romelic moqmedia Tu igi ar Seicvala.
igi absoluturad zustad
asaxavs im scenars romliTac unda moxdes prezidentis inauguracia. dadgenilebaSi romelic 2001 wels
aris miRebuli da romelSic
cvlilebebi 2003 wels ganxorcielda miTiTebulia
Tbilisi. maSin quTaisSi ar
arsebobda parlamenti da
mas Semdeg dadgenilebaSi
cvlileba Sesuli ar yofila.
Tu am dadgenilebas
gavyvebiT, maSin prezidentis
inauguracia unda moxdes
TbilisSi parlamentis yofil SenobasTan”, _ ganacxada ministrma.
axali ambebi
da vusurvo, rom is iyos
saqarTvelos
mosaxleobisTvis saamayo prezidenti.
aseve, unda mivuloco `nacionalur moZraobasac~,
romelmac
aCvena,
rom
arCevnebis wageba SeiZleba
Rirseulad, xolo damarcxeba ar niSnavs gaqrobas da
ganadgurebas. aris gza,
romelic orive mxarisTvis
da,
saboloo
jamSi,
saqarTvelosTvisac momgebiani iqneba. imedia, movaxerxebT am gzis povnas da masze
siaruls.
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nika rurua:
`saqarTvelo rCeba
Tavisufali samyaros
wevrobis msurveli~
gega silagava
s
azogadoebaSi
27 oqtombers
Catarebul
saprezidento
arCevnebs
erTgvarovani
Sefaseba mohyva
_ `mSvidi arCevnebi~.
amave dros
sazogadoebis
mniSvnelovani nawili
Tanxmdeba, rom 27-ma
oqtomberma msoflio
sazogadoebas daanaxa,
rom saqarTvelo rCeba
Tavisufali samyaros
wevrobis msurvel
saxelmwifod. 27
oqtombris arCevnebs
saqarTvelos kulturis
eqsministrma nika
ruruam `premierTan~
saubarSi qveynis
politikuri mrwamsis
Taobaze mowyobili
referendumi uwoda.
batono nika, piradad
TqvenTvis riT iyo
gamorCeuli 27
oqtombris arCevnebi?
27 oqtombris arCevnebi
gamorCeuli, albaT, simSvidiT iyo.
TiToeuli arCevnebi
aris erTgvari gzavnili
ara mxolod istoriul
momavalSi, aramed
saerTaSoriso
TanamegobrobisTvis.
margvelaSvilis arCeviT
ra gzavnili gaaxmovana
qarTvelma amomrCevelma?
margvelaSvilis gamarjvebam
da meore adgilze baqraZis
gasvlam daadastura, rom
saqarTvelos amomrCevelTa
udides umravlesobas dasavluri kursis SenarCuneba upirveles prioritetad miaCnia. es erTgvari referendumic iyo qveynis politikuri mrwamsis Taobaze da
saqarTvelo rCeba Tavisufali samyaros wevrobis msurveli.
mar
Talia, axali
marTalia,
konstituciis ZalaSi
Sesvlis Semdeg
prezidentis
uflebamosileba
mniSvnelovnad mcirdeba,
magram Tqven rogor
fiqrobT, ra gavlenas
moaxdens margvelaSvili
qarTul politikur
cxovrebaze?
axla ukve opoziciaSi gadasuli `nacionaluri moZraoba~ jerjerobiT saqarTveloSi mTavar opoziciur Zalad
dafiqsirda.
SeiZleba axali konstituciis mixedviT SezRudulia
prezidentis
pirdapiri
ufleba-movaleobebi, mas,
rogorc pirdapiri wesiT
arCeul prezidents, aqvs
didi legitimuroba da maszea
damokidebuli, ramdenad
didi iqneba misi wvlili
qarTuli
saxelmwifos
mSeneblobis saqmeSi. sxva sityvebiT, aq prezidentis
pirovnul Tvisebebs eqneba
zogadoebisTvis ar gaxda cnobili informacia konkretuli
danaSaulebis Sesaxeb. amitom
prokuraturas aqtiurad rom
gamoeZiebina saqmeebi, romelic
yofili Tanamdebobis pirebs
ukavSirdeba, `nacionaluri
moZraoba~ amxela procents
ver miiRebda.
cieldes da am oqmis safuZvelze daiwyeben garantiebis
mopovebas. Sesabamisad, im adamianebs, vinc iTxovda riggareSe saparlamento arCevnebis Catarebas, gauWirdebaT dasabuTeba, ratom unda Catardes
vadamdeli
saparlamento
arCevnebi.
gamodis, rom
`nacionaluri moZraoba~
politikur cxovrebaze
veranair gavlenas ver
moaxdens?
rogor fiqrobT, ratom
gamoiCina amomrCevelma
pasiuroba?
`nacionaluri
moZraobisTvis~
saprezidento arCevnebi
erTgvari testi iyo.
ramdenad kmayofili
xarT SedegiT?
gadamwyveti roli _ Tu axali prezidenti proaqtiuri
da momTxovni iqneba, maSin
misi gavlena mniSvnelovani
iqneba. Tu is pasiuri da damyoli iqneba, maSin misi gavlena mcire iqneba, rasac ar
visurvebdi.
qarTuli eleqtoratis
mniSvnelovani nawili
arCevnebze ar mivida.
ram ganapiroba es
garemoeba?
dabali aqtivoba, albaT, SedarebiT dabali emociuri
foniT aixsneba, rac SeiZleba cudic ar iyos, radganac
es siZulvilisa da radikalizmis muxts asustebs, rac
saWiroa
demokratiuli
sistemis erT-erTi umTavresi komponentis _ kompromisis xelovnebis tradiciis
CamoyalibebisTvis.
kaxa kaxiSvili:
`prokuraturas aqtiurad
rom emuSava,
`nacmoZraoba~ amxela
procents ver miiRebda~
miranda nabaxteveli
p
remier
ivaniSvilis
ganacxadebiT,
saprezidento
arCevnebSi
`nacionaluri
moZraobis~
saprezidento
kandidatisTvis 21%-iani
mxardaWera siurprizi iyo.
rogorc JurnalistebTan
Sexvedrisas ivaniSvilma
ganmarta, is ar moeloda,
Tu daviT baqraZe amxela
mxardaWeras miiRebda.
Tumca ivaniSvili miiCnevs,
rom `nacionalebis~ mier
mopovebuli 21% Sida
politikur procesze
gavlenas ver moaxdens.
sakiTxis irgvliv
`premieri~ arCevnebisa da
politikuri teqnologebis
kvlevis centris
xelmZRvanels kaxa
kaxiSvils esaubra.
batono kaxa, premieris
msgavsad, Tqven fiqrobT
rom `nacionaluri
moZraobis~ 21,7% qveynis
Sida politikur
procesebze gavlenas ver
moaxdens?
`nacionalebma~ saprezidento
arCevnebze moipoves 31 500 xma,
es im fonze, roca arCevnebze
mosaxleobam pasiuroba gamoiCina. Tumca arCevnebze mosaxleobis didi nawilis misvlis
SemTxvevaSi maT gacilebiT naklebi procentuli maCvenebeli eqnebodaT. Tu arCevnebze
mosaxleobis didi nawili
gamocxaddeboda, maSin es
pirdapirproporciulad imoqmedebda saprezidento kandidatebis reitingze. magaliTisTvis, me Tu arCevnebSi vmonawileob da arCevnebSi xmis micemis ufleba aqvs sul 100 adamians da amaTgan saarCevno yuTTan gamocxaddeba xuTi da 95
ar mova, SedegSi damifiqsirdeba 10%, xolo arCevnebze Tu
mova 10 kaci da xuTi maTgani
me momcems xmas, maSin saboloo
reitingSi meqneba 90%, xolo
100 kacidan Tu asive mova da
me xmas momcems mxolod xuTi
maTgani, SedegSi damifiqsirdeba 5%. ase rom, procentuli
maCveneblebi pirobiTia. miT
umetes, unda gaviTvaliswinoT
rom maT gamoiyenes administraciuli resursi. maT erTi
wlis ganmavlobaSi okupirebuli hqondaT saparlamento
tribuna, maT xelSi iyo adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobebi,
aqedan gamomdinare garkveul
Sedegs dadebdnen. saprezidento arCevnebze `nacionaluri
moZraobis~ 31 500 xma niSnavs
imas,
rom
SarSandel
arCevnebTan SedarebiT maT
dakarges amomrCevlis 50%.
darwmunebuli var, maT rom ar
hqonodaT is berketebi, rac
hqondaT, arsebuli procentuli maCvenebeli ar daufiqsirdebodaT. amavdroulad ganvlili erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi
prokuraturis mxridan sa-
faqtia, rom `nacionalebma~
SeZles da 2013 wlis saprezidento arCevnebze daafiqsires
arCevnebis Semajamebel oqmSi
meore adgili. axla `nacionalebi~ am oqmiT Semoirbenen
mTel msoflios. vfiqrob,
prezidenti da qalaqis meric
imitom gaemgzavrnen evropaSi,
rom aRniSnuli oqmis safuZvelze daiwyon saubari, rom
isini arian popularobiT meore politikuri Zala da
maTze devna unda ganxor-
amomrCevelma pasiuroba ramdenime aspeqtis gamo gamoiCina. pirveli aris is, rom 2010
wels konstituciaSi ganxorcielda cvlileba, romlis
Tanaxmadac 2013 wlis saprezidento arCevnebis Semdeg axlad arCeuli prezidentis
uflebebis SezRudvis Sesaxeb
2010 wlidan moyolebuli mimdinareobda kampania, rom axal
prezidents uflebamosileba
aRar eqneba. es ritorika
`qarTulma ocnebamac~ gaagrZela xelisuflebaSi mosvlis
Semdeg. gaxsovT, rogor
msjelobdnen, pirdapiri wesiT
aerCiaT prezidenti, Tu misi
arCeva parlamentis saSualebiT momxdariyo. bunebrivia, am yvelaferma xalxSi Seqmna ganwyoba, prezidenti
maincdamainc didi uflebamosilebiT ar isargeblebso da
Sesabamisad, albaT, amitom gamoiCina amomrCevelma pasiuroba. meore mizezi gaxlavT is,
rom arsebuli arCevnebis dros
saSiSroeba ar arsebobda, rom
`nacionaluri moZraobis~ kandidati gaimarjvebda, xolo
mesame aspeqti gaxlavT is, rom
saarCevno yuTTan ar gamocxadda is amomrCeveli, romelic
`qarTuli ocnebis~ mxardamWeri iyo, magram garkveuli
gadawyvetilebis gamo maTze
ganawyenebulia, Tumca `nacionalebis~ mxardamWeri arasodes gaxdeba, Tumca misi ndoba verc arasaparlamento
opoziciam moipova. faqtia,
rom 2013 wlis saprezidento
arCevnebSi monawileoba miiRo
motivirebulma amomrCevelma.
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saqarTvelos ra nabijia
civ omSi zavis winapiroba?!
laSa nodia
`premiers~
esaubreba
saqarTvelos uSiSroebis yofili ministri valeri
xaburZania.
b-no valeri, arCevnebi
Sedga da saqarTvelos
axali prezidenti hyavs.
arsebobda molodinebi
meore turTan
dakavSirebiT, Tumca ase
ar moxda. pirdapir
gkiTxavT, ra Tqva am
arCevaniT saqarTvelom.
saqarTvelos 2013 wlis aqtiurma eleqtoratma mxari biZina ivaniSvils dauWira, Tqva
is, rom sazogadoeba ganTavisuflda nacionaluri
wnexisgan, Tqva isic, rom ganviTarebis veqtori arsebiTad
dasavluria, Tqva isic, rom
qarTvelebi ar arian SurismaZiebeli xalxi da advilad
iTviseben Tavsmoxveul kohabitacias. mokled simSvide
gvirCevnia, gaumarjos simSvides. me es gzavnili ufro
davinaxe.
simSvide rom undodeT
adamianebs, amaSi, mgoni,
uli var, magram arc
radikalur gaumjobesebas
velodebi.
nino burjanaZe SedegebiT
ukmayofiloa da quCaSi
gasvlas gegmavs...
burjanaZes hqonda metis
molodini. marTali giTxraT,
mas aqtiuri eleqtorati
hyavs da aseTi molodinic
aman ganapiroba. rasac
apirebs, es misi konstituciuri uflebaa, aman SeiZleba
SeinarCunos misi aqtivobiT
mzardi reitingi, magram
arCevnebTan mimarTebaSi verafers Secvlis, me arc vadamdel
saparlamento
arCevnebs velodebi am
etapze, Tu raime sxva krizisuli movlena ar moxda.
`qveyanas vulocav
mSvidobian arCevnebs,
evraziuli veqtori,
rogorc vvaraudobdi,
20-25%-ia, burjanaZes
plus erTi amdeni da
cota meti, vinc ar
mivida. es 2013 wlisTvis
normaluria~, _ es
Tqveni gancxadebaa
`feisbukidan~. ras
gulisxmobT?
es Cveni saarCevno gaTvlaa.
nino burjanaZes xma misca
samarTlianobis araRdgeniT
dasavluri gzis uperspeqtivoba kidev ufro naTlad
gamoCndeba. esaa Cveni gaTvlebi da movlenaTa Tanxvedris pirobebSi is savsebiT
realuria.
burjanaZis mesame adgili
ganacxadia, rom
saqarTveloSi
prorusuli Zalebis
mimarT damokidebuleba
uaryofiTia.
da imedgacruebis
argumenti ra gaqvT?
ganvlili 20 weli, TurqeTis
magaliTi, gadauwyveteli
konfliqtebi, dasavleTis
ekonomikuri gulgriloba,
erTi dolari da evro ar
Cadebula qarTul ekonomikaSi. vfiqrob, sakmarisia.
`nacionaluri moZraoba~
meore adgilze gavida,
da realurad mTavari
opoziciuri Zala gaxda.
am faqts rogor
SeafasebT?
`nacionaluri moZraoba~ 2016
wlis arCevnebze 10%-s aiRebs
da momdevnoze aRar iqneba.
Tu fulis mobilizeba SeZles, SesaZloa, bokerias dajgufebam SeinarCunos politikuri sicocxle.
vin aris bokerias
dajgufeba?
bokerias dajgufebis didi
nawili parlamentsgareTaa,
uSiSroebis sabWos aparatSi
an sxvadasxva arasamTavroboebSi, parlamentSi axali
saxeebi, romlebic pirdapir
da uSualod ar asocirdebian danaSaulebriv sistemasTan.
cudi araferia?
ra Tqma unda.
marTalia, jer
mTavrobis axali
Semadgenloba ucnobia,
magram rogor xedavT am
mmarTveli ZaliT
saqarTvelos uaxloes
momavals?
mTavrobis axali Semadgenloba, faqtobrivad, igive
darCeba, Seicvleba erTi,
maqsimum ori kargi ministri,
danarCenebi xom ufro kargebi arian. me vfiqrob, rac
mTavaria, ar iqneba arsebiTi
gauareseba, amaSi darwmuneb-
ganawyenebulma eleqtoratma,
romelic ruseTzea orientirebuli. es 10%, amas unda
davumatoT arCevnebze armosuli 52%-dan 12-15%, romelmac am arCevnebSi evraziuli
veqtoris, gnebavT prorusuli uwodeT, perspeqtiva ver
dainaxa. am eleqtorats Tu
realur perspeqtivas davanaxvebT, is momavalSi
arCevnebze mova. amitomac
swori muSaobiTa da kanonieri saxsrebiT 2016 wlis
arCevnebSi am veqtoris gaerTianebul Zalebs minimum 2025% eqneba, Tan am droisTvis
ver dageTanxmebiT, im fonis
Semdeg, rac iyo wina xelisuflebis mere, es mzardi da
sworad mzardi trendia.
anu Tqven fiqrobT, rom
erT mSvenier dRes
saqarTveloSi SeiZleba
vixiloT prorusuli
xelisufleba?
ramdenad iqneba es mSvenieri
sxvebisTvis, ver getyviT, me
vfiqrob, rom 10 weliwadSi
dadgeba dasavluri gziT saboloo imedgacrueba, magram
am droisTvis evraziuli
gzac ar iqneba advili.
2000 wlidan
moyolebuli naTelia,
rom qarTvelma
politikurma Zalebma
ruseTs ver gaumarTles.
aseT viTarebaSi Tundac
imave 2016 wlisTvis
kremlma ratom unda
gaakeTos fsoni
romelime politikur
Zalaze?
kremlis fsonebs aravinac ar
unda elodos, piriqiT, Cven
unda gavakeToT fsoni ruseTis saqarTvelosken Semobrunebaze, Cven unda davibrunoT ruseTi da postsabWoTa sivrce da ara piriqiT,
am sivrcis usafrTxoebis el-
ementad unda viqceT da samagierod visargebloT misi
sabazro da bunebrivi simdidreebiT.
vTqvaT, erT dRes
saqarTvelos mosaxloba
marTlac gadairia da
yvelam erTxmad
ganacxada, rom mas surs
evraziuli kavSiri, anu
realurad ruseTi. xom
cxadia, rom aseT
SemTxvevaSic Cven
afxazeTisa da cxinvalis
regionis gareSe
gangvixilaven. maSin ra
sargebelia ruseTisken
aseTi miswrafeba?
mxolod savaWro
adgilebi moskovis
daxlebze?
ki ar gadairia, piriqiT, gadmoiria. Tu teritoriuli
mTlianobis aRdgenaa Cveni
prioriteti, unda gadmovirioT, Tu ara da sxva Sansi ar
Cans. Tu evraziuli sivrce
migviRebs da arc ise adviladaa saqme, Tqven rom xatavT, ariqa SemodiTo, maSin
daiwyeba realuri zewola
separatul regionebze, isini
veranairad ver darCebian
konteqstidan, regionidan
amovardnilebi,
ruseTi
yoveldRe
Seejaxeba
saqarTvelos moTxovnas am
regionebTan mimarTebaSi. ase
`upatronod~ es regionebic
ver iarsebeben. ruseTis interesebSia, isini patrons
Caabaros, miT umetes separatizmis waxaliseba xangrZlivad ver iqneba ruseTis arCevani. am da sxva mravali Tanamdevi faqtoris gaTvaliswinebiT unda moxdes separatistuli
regionebis
saqarTvelosTan asocirebulad, vTqvaT, federaciuli an
Tundac konfederaciuli
formiT evraziul sivrceSi
integrireba, msgavsi formiT
unda gadawydes mTiani yarabaxis problemac, SeiZleba
erTian evraziul sivrceSi
amierkavkasiis regionalur
kavSirzec laparaki. Znelia
sagazeTo intervius formatSi am Temis gaSla, Cven monaxazebi gvaqvs, magram Cveni sqemebi araferia, Tu saTanado
realoba ar Seiqmna. ai,
evrostruqturebi ki veraviTar saTanado realobas ver
Seqmnian. erTaderTi aseTi
realoba isev ruseTs ukavSirdeba da es ruseTis daSlaa, rac sruliad aramosalodnelia da ufro xangrZliv perspeqtivaSi sruliad
miuRebeli saqarTvelosTvis,
radgan es kavkasiuri omia,
faqtobrivad, garantirebulad. jer Tanamedrove omSi
gamarjvebuli raa, miT
umetes, rom am omSi gamarjvebis naklebi Sansi aqvs
saqarTvelos.
Tqven adre ganacxadeT,
rom saarCevno periodSi
ruseTi Sewyvetda
mavTulxlarTebis gabmas
da realurad es
procesi cota xniT
marTlac gaCerda. axla
ras unda velodoT?
axla
ruseTi
elodeba
saqarTvelos nabijebs, bazarze Sesvla da olimpiadaze
wasvla civ omSi zavis winapirobaa da meti araferi. me
ar vici, ras gulisxmobs
saqarTvelos xelisufleba
ruseTTan urTierTobis gaumjobesebaSi, amitomac ver vityvi, ra iqneba. vnaxoT, amas
saqarTvelos xelisuflebis
nabijebi gansazRvravs da ara
ruseTis.
Tqven araerTxel
daaanonseT, rom
politikaSi Semosvlas
apirebT, iyo saubari
politikuri partiis
Seqmnis Sesaxeb da a.S.
Semdegi nabiji
adgilobrivi
TviTmmarTvelobebis
arCevnebia, Tqven
CaerTvebiT am
arCevnebSi?
adgilobriv arCevnebSi CarTvas ver vaswreb, arCevnebi
saqarTveloSi Zalian Zviri
`siamovnebaa~ da kidev ufro
gaZvirda. sanam saqarTvelos
kanonmdeblobiT dadgenili
wesiT ar movipoveb saarCevno
saxsrebs, manamde arCevnebSi
ar da ver CaverTvebi,
vmuSaob ruseTis qarTul
diasporasTan,
romelic
saqarTvelos moqalaqecaa,
Cven kanons ar davarRvevT da
ukanono saxsrebs arCevnebSi
ar movitanT, mere maT raime
valdebulebebi rom ar mohyves.
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gega silagava
aprezidento
vadis
amowurvamde,
anu 17
noembramde
mixeil
saakaSvili baCo
axalaias Sewyalebas
gegmavs. `axalaia ñ
âåùàìè~, _ es iqneba
mixeil saakaSvilis erTerTi bolo aqti
prezidentis postze
yofnisas. Canafiqri
aseTia. axla mTavaria,
axalaias yvela
sasamarTlo procesis
droulad Catareba da
ganaCenis gamocxadeba,
mere ukve yvelaferi
teqnikis saqmea. Tumca
arc mTavari
prokuroris gancxadeba
unda dagvaviwydes,
romelmac Cveuli
`mowifulobiT~
ganacxada: `me ver
gavukeTeb
prognozirebas imas, ra
gadawyvetilebas
gamoitans sasamarTlo.
rac ar unda iyos, Cven
mas miviRebT da
vimoqmedebT kanonis
Sesabamisad. rogori
mZimec ar unda iyos,
s
sasiamovnoze ar aris
saubari, is Cven unda
miviRoT, rogorc
demokratiuli
gardaqmnis procesi...~
savaraudod, es iyo
erTgvari testi
sazogadoebis reaqciis
Sesamowmeblad, an
arada, nebis miuxedavad,
misTvis finali
cnobili iyo.
rogorc `premiers~ informirebulma wyarom acnoba, 31 oqtombers, axalaiasa
da masTan erTad braldebul
pirebs `samxedroebis saqmeze~
sasamarTlo gamamarTlebel
ganaCens gamoutans. imave
axalaia
с вещами!
dRes Tu ara, meore dilisTvis mainc e.w. cixis buntis saqmeze 3 wliTa da 9
TviT
dapatimrebul
saqarTvelos Tavdacvisa da
Sinagan saqmeTa yofil ministrs jer kidev prezidenti
sTvis isini damnaSaveebi arian.
am droisTvis arsebuli
viTarebiT, e.w. cixis buntis
saqmeze Tavdacvis yofil
ministrs baCo axalaias 3
mixeil saakaSvili Seiwyalebs.
axalaia cixidan, faqtobrivad, gmirad gamova. realurad Tu gaviazrebT, e.w.
cixis buntis saqmeze is damnaSave samyaros winaaRmdeg
mebrZoli adamiania. dazaralebulebi saqmeSi ZiriTadad kriminaluri avtoritetebi da maTTan daaxloebuli _ im periodisTvis
danaSauldamtkicebuli pirebi arian. principSi, ramdenic ar unda iZaxon, cixeSi
udanaSaulod
sxedano,
konkretuli patimris pirispir dazaralebuli piri
dgas. Sesabamisad, sazogadoebrivi sibralulis areali
aseTi pirebis mimarT arc ise
didia da is axlo naTesavebiT Semoifargleba. sxvebi-
wliTa da 9 TviT patimroba
Seefarda. mosamarTle laSa
CxikvaZis gadawyvetilebiT,
igive sasjeli SeefardaT e.w.
cixis buntis saqmeSi baCo
axalaiasTan erTad braldebul revaz WarbaZes, daviT
Wakuasa da megis qardavas,
romlebic am dromde Zebnilebad iTvlebian.
Tavdapirvelad mosamarTlem axalaias sasjelis saxiT 5 weli Seufarda, Tumca
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlom saqmeze Sekrebili
masalebis Sefasebis Sedegad,
braldebulebi baCana axalaia da megis qardava udanaSaulod cno da gaamarTla
saqarTvelos sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis 333-e muxlis
pirveli nawiliT wardgenil
braldebaSi; sasamarTlom
aseve, yvela braldebuls
mouxsna saqarTvelos sisxlis
samarTlis kodeqsis 333-e
muxlis mesame nawilis `b~ da
`g~ q/punqtebiT gaTvaliswinebuli
braldeba,
rogorc zedmetad wardgenili. 2012 wlis 28 dekembris
`amnistiis Sesaxeb~ saqarTvelos kanonis safuZvelze,
daniSnuli sasjeli Semcirda
¼-iT da sabolood yvela
braldebuls ganesazRvra
Tavisuflebis aRkveTa 3(sami)
wliTa da 9(cxra) Tvis vadiT
da saxelmwifo samsaxurSi
daniSvniTi Tanamdebobis
dakavebis uflebis CamorTmeva 2(ori) wlis da 3(sami) Tvis
vadiT; aseve, baCana axalaias
blod.
rac Seexeba 7 samxedro
mosamsaxuris `wamebis~ saqmes,
ganaCens sasamarTlo Tu rame
arsebiTad ar Seicvala, 31
oqtombers gamoitans. sxva
rom araferi, prezidentisTvis uxerxuli iqneboda
wamebaSi braldebulis Sewyaleba. Sesabamisad, rogorc
imave wyarom `premiers~ ganucxada, gamamarTlebel ganaCens sasamarTlo daadgens.
Temidas msaxurni alalad
ityvian, rom maT ar hqondaT
Sesabamisi mtkicebulebebi,
Torem, `Tu e.w. cixis buntis
saqmeze SegveZlo gamamtyunebeli ganaCenis gamotana, am
saqmezec gamovitandiTo~.
prokuratura ki, Tavis
mxriv, acxadebs, rom is
damatebiTi sasjelis saxiT
ganesazRvra jarima 4.000
(oTxi aTasi) laris odenobiT, xolo danarCen braldebulebs _ jarima 3.000(sami
aTasi) laris odenobiT, saxelmwifo biujetis sasarge-
`wvrTna~ sulac ar iyo
`wvrTna~ da samxedro mosamsaxureebs ki ar avarjiSebdnen, aramed awamebdnen.
dRevandeli gadasaxedidan
gansakuTrebiT Znelia neitraluri adamianisTvis im
7
emociebis
gancda
_
varjiSobdnen Tu ara marTla `is~ samxedro mosamsaxureebi. ramdenad Zneli iyo
maTTvis Tundac oriT meti
mizidvis gakeTeba, an Tundac
erTi kilometriT meti sirbili. ra tkivili da emociuri stresi axlda yovelives,
xdeboda es yvelaferi
konkretuli personebisTvis
damamcirebel garemoSi Tu
ara. axla umTavresi isaa,
rom, Tu adamians brals ver
umtkiceb, is udanaSauloa.
umTavresia axlo warsulSi
moduri fraza _ `ïîêà íå
ïîéìàí, íå âîð~.
molodinebi imasTan dakavSirebiT, rom axalaia ueWveli datovebda cixes, erTerTma pirvelma misma TanamebrZolma Tea TuTberiZem
gaaJRera.
`baCo
axalaia
cixes
arCevnebis mere datovebs.
arCevnebze ki `qarTuli ocneba~ SeZlebs ar dakargos e.w.
samarTlianobis aRdgenis
moTxovnis imediT aRsavse
amomrCevlebis xmebi~, _ ganucxada Tea TuTberiZem
saagento `ji-eiC-ens~.
ris safuZvelze gaakeTa
TuTberiZem es gancxadeba,
modiT, gverdze gadavdoT
da isev `premieris~ wyaros
davubrundeT, romelic acxadebs, rom generaluri
prokuroris interesSi ar
Sedis axalaias gamamarTlebeli ganaCeni da misi uwyebisken xelis gaSvera, rom mas
brali ver daumtkices, Tumca mas sxva gza ar aqvs, es
politikuri procesia.
anu, rogorc ityvian, adamians Tavi imisTvis ki ar
adgas, rom sxeuls ar Caawvimos da Cvenc CveniT unda
mivxvdeT raRacebs, iseve
rogorc am saqmeze zewolis
qveS myofi genprokurori
mixvda. rac ar Tqva arCil
kbilaSvilma, imas, albaT, samomavlod memuarebSi laSa
nacvliSvili dawers, Tu
amisTvis Sinagani Zala eyofa.
davelodoT 31 oqtombers.
yvelaferi realurad iqiTken midis, rom 17 noembramde
baCo axalaia sakuTar sakanTan yvela patimrisTvis
sanukvar frazas _ `axalaia ñ
âåùàìè~ moismens...
8
premieri
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
ras gaakeTebs ivaniSvili
samoqalaqo seqtorSi?
`dRes
saqarTveloSi,
ivaniSvilis garda,
ar arsebobs
politikosi,
romelsac martos
SeuZlia seriozuli
warmatebis miRweva...~
`Tu amas gaakeTebs, es
iqneba yvelaze kargi ram~
nona daviTaSvili
m
oZraoba
`erovnulebis~
liderma
sandro
bregaZem
`premiers~
eqskluziurad gaumxila,
rom samoqalaqo
sazogadoebaSi
gadasuli biZina
ivaniSvili apirebs,
ramdenime
arasaparlamento
opoziciur partias
finansuri daxmareba
gauwios da gaaZlieros.
sandro bregaZe:
arCevnebis Semdgom gaorebuli gancda dameufla mec da
qarTveli xalxis umravlesobasac. gvixaria saakaSvilis
avadmyofuri, avtokratiuli
mmarTveloba rom dasrulda,
magram gvwyins, `nacionalurma moZraobam~, am damnaSave
politikurma partiam pirveli nabiji rom gadadga, qveyanaSi politikur opoziciad
rom damkvidrdes. nacionalebis politikidan gaSvebisTvis riggareSe saparlamento arCevnebic sakmarisi iyo,
magram koaliciaSi myofma
zogierTma politikurma
Zalam yvelaferi iRona, nacionalebi rom gadaerCina
da politikur opoziciad
eqcia. amis medroSeebi iyvnen
`respublikelebi~, romlebic
mudmivad saubrobdnen imaze,
rom qarTuli demokratiis
mTavari amocana `nacmoZraobis~ gadarCenaa. xelovnurad
Tavsmoxveuli koabitacia
yvelas kargad gvaxsovs. axla
amboben, TiTqos koabitacia
damTavrda,
magram
mis
damTavrebas ori mimarTuleba aqvs: erT SemTxvevaSi damnaSave Zala qreba politikuri asparezidan, meore
SemTxvevaSi ki xdeba maTi
politikuri qorwineba. uaxloes dReebSi gamoCndeba,
eseni romels gulisxmobdnen,
amas rom gveubnebodnen.
da mainc, romeli
moxdeba am ori
mimarTulebidan?!
amis Tqma axla imitom ar
SemiZlia, rom jerjerobiT
biZina ivaniSvili politikidan ar wasula da qveynis realuri mmarTveli, axali premier-ministric ar
gamoCenila. saqarTvelos
mosaxleobas eSleba is, rom
hgonia, prezidents kidev aqvs
raime uflebamosileba. dRes
saqarTvelos prezidenti mxolod simboluri uflebamosilebis mqone figuraa, realur
Zalauflebas
ki
mTavroba da misi meTauri
floben. aqedan gamomdinare,
imis TqmisTvis, koabitaciis
dasruleba, an qveynis ganviTareba ra formiT moxdeba,
gadamwyveti mniSvneloba premier-ministris kandidaturas
aqvs. mmarTvel gundSi TviTdajerebuloba SeiniSneba,
rac cudi ar aris, magram
zedmeti TviTdajerebuloba,
ra Tqma unda, garkveul
kataklizmebs iwvevs. winaswar
mxolod imis Tqma SemiZlia,
rom `nacmoZraobis~ opoziciad qceva, adre Tu gvian,
savalalo Sedegs gamoiRebs.
SeiZleba bevr adamians, vinc
am process xeli Seuwyo, TavSi xelis Semortyma mouxdes.
saakaSvilma, bokeriam da nacionalebis sxva liderebma
Riadac ganacxades, meore
adgili Semdgomi warmatebis
safuZvels gviqmniso. 27 oqtombris SedegebiT `qarTul
ocnebaze~ gaxarebulebi da
gamarjvebulebi nacionalebi
arian, radgan maT hgoniaT
`gaipraves~ adgili politikur asparezze. piradad me
ara mgonia, marTla ase
moxdes, radgan es iqneba nonsensi. ver vityvi imas, rom
`nacmoZraobis~ yvela wevri
damnaSavea, magram swored
damnaSave liderebs undaT
politikaSi ukan dabruneba,
rac ar unda dauSvas koaliciam, magram arsebobs erTi
Tumca.
dRes aris eiforia
da Cemi naTqvami SeiZleba mizanSeuwonlad moeCvenos
vinmes. gava ramdenime Tve da
yvela darwmundeba, rom simarTle vTqvi. politikur
rukaze axla adgils vaZlevT
avantiuristebisgan dakompleqtebul `politikur
Zalas~, romelsac gaaCnia
ganuzomeli finansebi. saakaSvili, bokeria, benduqiZe, adeiSvili, merabiSvili, kezeraSvili da a.S. ra Tqma unda,
Tavis ganuzomel finansebs
mimarTaven imisTvis, rom
rogorme dabrundnen xelisuflebaSi. maTi finansebi
ivaniSvilis finansebze mcire
ki ara, meticaa. 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi nacionalebma seriozulad Zarcves qveyana,
amitom axali xelisufleba
mudmivad idgeba seriozuli
safrTxeebis winaSe. es Secdoma ar unda daeSvaT, magram,
samwuxarod, mosaxdeni moxda.
Tqven am Secdomis
avtorad
`respublikelebs~
asaxelebT, Tumca biZina
ivaniSvili arCevnebis win
Tavdajerebuli
gvicxadebda, rom
darwmunebuli iyo,
pirvel adgilze
margvelaSvili gavidoda,
meoreze ki _ baqraZe.
misi naTqvami im
sazogadoebisTvis,
romelic misiT aris
moxibluli, erTgvari
mesijic ki iyo da amis
Tqmac respublikelebma
aiZules?!
faqti is aris, rom nacionalebTan mimarTebaSi araswori
kursi iqna arCeuli. ivaniSvils madlobas vuxdi imisTvis, rom saakaSvili da `nacmoZraoba~ mogvacila xe-
premieri
#9 (009) oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013
lisuflebidan; rom politika gamoiyvana samarTaldamcavi organoebidan; media
gaaTavisufla, garkveuli
ekonomiuri nabijebi gadaidga qveyanaSi, bevri axali ministri da politikuri saxe
gamoaCina; rom saakaSvili
aiZula,
saprezidento
arCevnebSi ise daeTmo Zalau-
fleba, xidan foTolic ar
Camovardniliyo. Tumca madlobas ver vetyvi imisTvis,
rom ar daniSna riggareSe
saparlamento arCevnebi da
`nacmoZraoba~, romelsac 42
procentamde daumsaxureblad aqvs miRebuli parlamentSi, politikur mousavleTSi ar gaistumra. ase rom
momxdariyo, axla sruliad
sxva realobis winaSe vidgebodiT da politikuri
speqtric sruliad sxvagvari
gveqneboda. amjerad, nacionalebis maRali procenti gamoiwvia imanac, rom
amomrCevelTa 56 procenti
arCevnebze ar mivida. es is
xalxia, visac imedebi ukve
gaucruvda da nihilizmma
Seipyro. isini fiqroben, rom
xelisufleba samarTlianobis aRdgenisken efeqtur
nabijebs ar dgams. maT xeli
Caiqnies qveynis politikur
procesebSi monawileobaze,
rac isev nacionalebis
sasargeblo aRmoCnda. margvelaSvilisTvis xma ar miucia saqarTvelos amomrCevlebis 56 procents. mas mxari
dauWira amomrCevelTa sru-
li siis daaxloebiT 34-35-ma
procentma, `nacionalur
moZraobas~ ki _ 6-7-ma pro-
centma, rac metyvelebs
imaze, rom `nacmoZraobam~
moaxdina Tavisi amomrCevlis
100-procentiani mobilizeba
da maT aseTi mcire mxardaWera aqvT. vadamdeli saparlamento arCevnebi ki am
politikur rukas sxvagvarad Secvlida. maTgan axla
yvelafers unda velodoT,
dawyebuli provokaciebiT,
damTavrebuli imiT, rom marTlac dabrundnen xelisuflebaSi. ar vici, ase fiqrobda Tu ara ivaniSvili, magram
Secdoma rom aqvT daSvebuli, es faqtia. margvelaSvili
Cemi kolegaa _ filosofosi,
erT skolaSi vswavlobdiT,
Tumca masTan megobruli
urTierToba
ar
maqvs.
filosofosebis ojaxSi var
aRzrdili da mamaCemisgan
vici, rom is Zalian niWieri
da ganaTlebuli adamiania,
rac udavod kargia, Tumca
imas, rom is iqneba garanti,
nacionalebis avantiuris
pirobebSi qveyanaSi stabilizacia SeinarCunos, skeptikurad vuyureb. ara mgonia, man SeZlos qveyanaSi situaciis daWera.
erT kviraSi ivaniSvili
premier-ministris skams
gaaTavisuflebs, Tumca
Semcvlels Tavad
dagvitovebs. amas ar
uTvliT Secdomad baton
biZinas?!
vinc unda daniSnos ivaniSvilma premierad, faqtia, rom
centraluri xelisufleba
Sesustdeba da ivaniSvilis
wasvlis SemTxvevaSi, xelisuflebas garkveulwilad reitingic daekargeba. mis
gareSe xelisufleba iseTi
Zlieri ver iqneba, rogorc
axlaa, riTac isev naciona-
lebi moigeben. Tu adgilobrivi arCevnebisTvis procesebi ise wava, rom konkurenti
mxolod ori politikuri
Zala iarsebebs _ koalicia
`qarTuli ocneba~ da `nacmoZraoba~, es ukve iqneba
katastrofa. albaT, koalicias unda gamoeyon politikuri Zalebi, romlebic
damoukideblad gamovlen
arCevnebSi da arasaparlamento opoziciidanac unda gamoikveTos partiebi, romlebic arCevnebSi Rirseul
monawileobas miiReben. mxolod aseT SemTxvevaSi
gaxdeba `nacmoZraoba~ erTerTi rigiTi Zala, romelsac
veranairi gavlena veRar
eqneba adgilobriv xelisuflebaze. sxvanairad adgilobriv donezec dakanondeba
nacionalebis
arseboba.
amisTvis maT xels SeuwyobT
is ganuzomeli finansebi,
romelic aqvT, Tumca arc
koalicia uCivis finansebs.
danarCeni politikuri Zalebi ki, faqtobrivad, nulze
arian da arsebobis saSualeba ar aqvT. Tavis droze,
roca baton biZinas Sevxvdi,
amaze gvqonda saubari. man
miTxra, rom is politikidan
wasvlis Semdgom ecdeba, ori
an sami arasaparlamento
politikuri Zala gaaZlieros da maT erTjeradi finansuri daxmareba aRmouCinos, raTa Tavi daimkvidron
politikur asparezze. Tu
batoni biZina amas gaakeTebs,
es iqneba yvelaze kargi ram,
rac demokratiis gansaviTareblad saqarTveloSi
gaukeTebia. ase rom, ivaniSvilis amocana, sazogadoebriv
seqtorSi gadasvlis Semdgom,
albaT, gaxdeba is, rom
uzrunvelyofs Wrel politikur speqtrs.
marTla?! Tqven isic
gecodinebaT, romeli
arasaparlamento Zalebis
gaZlierebas apirebs
ivaniSvili samoqalaqo
seqtorSi gadasvlis
Semdgom. Tumca minda
SegaxsenoT, rom is
imasac ambobs,
politikaSi aRar
Caverevio. es Careva ar
iqneba?!
ver getyviT, vis gaaZlierebs
ivaniSvili premier-ministris
postis datovebis Semdgom, es
misi gadasawyvetia. Tumca
vfiqrob, rom sworedac rom
samoqalaqo sazogadoebis
saqmea, qveyanaSi arsebobdes
iseTi foni, romelic saSu-
alebas micems yvelanairi
politikuri ideologiis
Zalebs, sakuTari Tavi warmoaCinon politikur asparezze. es aris samoqalaqo
sazogadoebis upirvelesi
amocana da movaleoba. me
vfiqrob, politikaSi yofna
ar aris imisTvis aucilebeli, uzrunvelyo aseTi politikur-demokratiuli veli
qveyanaSi. ra Tqma unda, Tu
qveyanaSi kvlav `ocneba~ da
nacionalebi darCnen, qveyanas demokratiuli ganviTareba ar uweria.
nino burjanaZe acxadebs,
rom nacionalebi da
`ocneba~ garigebuli
iyvnen arCevnebSi da
aseTi Sedegic amitom
miviReT. Salva
naTelaSvili aqciebiT
imuqreba, koba
daviTaSvili, rogorc
ambobs, Sedegebis
oficialurad
gamocxadebis Semdgom
gadawyvets, politikidan
wavides Tu ara. ras
unda velodoT mokle
xanSi am politikuri
Zalebisgan?
Tu aqciebi daiwyeba, es miiRebs marginalur saxes da
seriozuli namdvilad ar
iqneba. rac Seexeba burjanaZ-
es, is aris seriozuli politikosi, mas hqonda seriozuli programa da SesaniSnavi
Sansi, rom kargi Sedegi daedo, magram taqtikuri xasia-
9
Tis Secdomebi dauSva.
umTavresi Secdoma ki is iyo,
rom daeyrdno mxolod da
mxolod Tavis partias da ar
moaxdina mTeli arasaparlamento opoziciis mobilizeba. am Secdomam gamoiRo is
Sedegi, rom mas nacmoZraobis kandidatma ajoba da meore turze saubaric ar
aris. Tavis droze, zviad
gamsaxurdiamac ki koaliciuri gaerTianebiT moaxerxa
politikaSi mosvla. `mrgval
magidaSi~ ramdenime politikuri Zala iyo gaerTianebuli. roca `nacmoZraoba~
xelisuflebaSi modioda,
masSi Sedioda ZiZiguris
gaerTianeba, `respublikuri
partia~,
`burjanaZedemokratebi~ da a.S. amitom
dRes saqarTveloSi, ivaniSvilis garda, ar arsebobs
politikosi, romelsac martos SeuZlia seriozuli
warmatebis miRweva. es ar
sjerodaT burjanaZis momxreebs, magram mware realobis winaSe ukve aRmoCndnen.
Tqven miTxariT,
ivaniSvili samoqalaqo
sazogadoebaSi imitom
gadadis,
arasaparlamento
opoziciuri Zalebi rom
gaaZlieroso, magram
bevri fiqrobs, rom is
Crdilidan apirebs,
marTos Tavisi
daniSnuli premieric,
xelisuflebac da
prezidentic. albaT, esec
ar unda iyos qveynisTvis
kargis momtani.
ara mgonia, ivaniSvili aseTi
formiT apirebdes qveynis marTvas. RmerTma dagvifaros
amisgan. rac unda kargi politikosi da adamiani iyos, kulisebidan saxelmwifos marTvis dros mainc miviRebT
saSinelebas.
Tu
Cven
vsaubrobT 21-e saukunis qveyanaze da demokratiul ganviTarebaze, iq ruxi kardinalebi, donebi, faSebi da sulTnebi, ra Tqma unda, kidevac unda
gamovricxoT. darwmunebuli
var, es adamiani ar miiswrafvis
donobisa da faSobisken. ase-
Ti ram Tu mainc moxdeba, es
qveynisTvis iqneba katastrofa da ivaniSvili aseTi kuTxiT qveyanas ar waiyvans.
10 premieri
axali ambebi
`saberZneTis
mTavrobis saxiT,
evrokavSirsa da
natoSi saqarTvelos
Zlieri megobari
hyavs~
saqarTvelos Tavdacvis
ministrma irakli alasaniam
berZen kolegas dimitrios
avramopoloss Tavdacvis
uwyebaSi umaspinZla. saberZneTis Tavdacvis ministrma qarTvel xalxs prezidentis arCevnebis demokratiulad Catareba miuloca.
irakli alasaniam berZen
kolegas dimitrios avramopoloss
saqarTvelos
evroatlantikur struqturebSi gawevrianebis mxardaWerisaTvis madloba
gadauxada.
mxareebma
evrokavSiris sadamkvirveblo misiis mniSvnelobazec
gaamaxviles
yuradReba.
evrokavSiris monitoringis
misiaSi 11 berZeni damkvirvebeli iRebs monawileobas. ministrebma londonisa da
vilniusis dagegmil samitebzec isaubres.
„Cven saberZneTTan ukve
mravali welia saukeTeso
samxedro TanamSromloba
gvaqvs. dRes ministrTan erTad SevTanxmdiT, rom Cvens
urTierTobaSi, samxedro uwyebebs Soris axal etaps daviwyebT. minda aseve, didi madloba gadavuxado baton ministrs da mTels saberZneTis
mTavrobas, rom ase Zlierad
uWeren mxars Cveni qveynis
teritoriul mTlianobas
saerTaSorisod aRiarebul
sazRvrebSi, Cvens wevrobas
evrokavSirSi da natoSi. ministris da mTeli saberZneTis
mTavrobis saxiT evrokavSirsa da natoSi saqarTvelos
Zlieri megobari hyavs,
romelic myarad uWers mxars Cvens saboloo gawevrianebas evropul ojaxSi.” - ganacxada saqarTvelos Tavdacvis ministrma.
dimitrios avramopolosma qarTveli kolega da
saqarTvelos SeiaraRebuli
Zalebis gaerTianebuli Stabis ufrosi saberZneTSi miiwvia. gaerTianebuli Stabis
delegacia uaxloes periodSi saberZneTSi gaemgzavreba,
sadac erToblivad SeTanxmdebian samoqmedo TanamSromlobis gegmaze.
axali ambebi
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
`darwmunebuli var, prokuratura
am sakiTxs mixedavs~
politikuri organizacia
aris Zalian organizebuli.
maT 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi qveynis marTvis procesSi iswavles xalxis marTva da partiuli struqturebis Camoyalibeba. adgilebze xalxis marTva namdvilad iswavles,
Tumca rogor da saiTken mimarTavdnen, es kidev sxva
Temaa, magram sakuTari
Zalebis mobilizacia SeZles.
amitom xelisuflebac gaaTmagebiT unda iyos mobilizebuli, radgan Cven modunebis
ufleba ar gvaqvs da am gamarjvebam eiforiaSi ar unda
gadagviyvanos. piriqiT, bevrad meti pasuxismgebloba
unda aviRoT sakuTar Tavze
yvelam, deputatebmac da
mTavrobis wevrebmac, miT
umetes maSin, rodesac biZina
ivaniSvili politikidan midis.
giorgi xuxia
`premiers~ esaubra
parlamentis vice-spikeri
manana kobaxiZe:
q-no manana, koabitacia
dasrulda. ra iqneba
xelisuflebis pirveli
nabijebi, romelsac am
sakmaod uCveulo
politikuri
Tanacxovrebis Semdeg
sazogadoebis TiToeuli
wevri SeigrZnobs?
jer, mogexsenebaT, Cveni kandidatis gamarjveba procedurulad unda gaformdes,
radgan is uflebamosilebis
Sesrulebas Seudges. amas mohyveba misi administraciis
dakompleqteba da yvela im
cvlilebis ganxorcieleba,
romelic axali konstituciiT Sedis mis uflebamosilebebSi. koabitaciis dasrulebis procesi Cven ukve daviwyeT, imitom rom prezidenti,
romelic aqamde sakuTari
xalxis opoziciaSi iyo da
Zalian bevr problemas qmnida... es yvelaferi Zalian
male, 17 noembers dasruldeba. samwuxarod, saakaSvilis
yoveli sityva gajerebulia
`qarTuli ocnebisadmi~ siZulviliT da vfiqrob, araadekvaturia. es yvelaferi aseT
formatSi mxolod 17 noembramde iqneba, amitom jer
cota
naadrevia
imaze
saubari, rom koabitacia dasrulda.
saprezidento
arCevnebis Sedegebma es procesi daiwyo, Tumca, ra Tqma
unda, es 27 oqtombers ar dasrulebula, radgan Cven kidev
vismenT saakaSvilis mimarTvebs da kidev 2 kvira is
prezidentia. imeds vitoveb,
rom yvelaferi mSvidobianad, Cveni qveynisa da xalxis sasargeblod dasruldeba.
axla, rodesac,
aRmasrulebel da
sakanonmdeblo
xelisuflebebTan erTad,
prezidentis
saxelisuflebo Stosac
ukve koalicia `qarTuli
ocneba~ akontrolebs, ra
iqneba Tqveni gundis
ZiriTadi amocana?
Zalian seriozuli gamowvevebia qveynis winaSe, rogorc
saSinao politikis, ise sagareo politikis TvalsazrisiT.
saSinao politikis SemTxvevaSi, am arCevnebma stabilurobis gancda unda Seqmnas, radgan es aucilebelia Sesabamisi sainvesticio garemos
Sesaqmnelad da investiciebis mosazidad. biznesis xe-
`faqtia, rom
`nacionalurma
moZraobam~ xmebis
raRac odenoba miiRo~
lSewyobiT Cven SevZlebT sazogadoebis mTavar problemasTan,
umuSevrobasTan
gamklavebas. rac Seexeba sagareo politikas, aqac
Zalian mniSvnelovania is,
rom Cvens kandidats eZleva
saSualeba, vilniuss samitze
qveyana warmoadginos.
`nacionalur moZraobas~
ar TvlidiT Zlier
opoziciur partiad da
Tqveni Tanagundelebis
msgavsad, acxadebdiT,
rom parlamentSi am
partiis 40%-iani
warmomadgenloba ar
asaxavs sazogadoebis
ganwyobas. mas Semdeg,
rac bolo arCevnebSi
`nacmoZraobam~
realurad meore
adgili daikava, miiCnevT
Tu ara
am partias #1
opoziciur Zalad
da
mis saparlamento
warmomadgenlobas
legitimurad?
faqti erTia, rom arCevnebi
absoluturad demokratiulad Catarda Tavisufal, mSvid da samarTlian garemoSi,
yovelgvari seriozuli dar-
Rvevis gareSe. amasTan dakavSirebiT Zalian seriozuli
da
konsolidirebuli
daskvnebi daido saerTaSoriso da adgilobrivi sadamkvirveblo misiebis mier.
faqtia, rom `nacionalurma
moZraobam~ xmebis raRac
odenoba miiRo, me namdvilad
mikvirs, rom 20% miiRo, magram, rogorc Cans, maqsimalurad moaxdines mobilizeba Tundac im adamianebisa,
vinc
1-li
oqtombris
arCevnebis Semdeg samsaxuri
dakarga, aseve adgilobrivi
TviTmmarTvelobebis TanamSromlebisa, sadac dRemde
garkveuli poziciebi ukaviaT am partiis wevrebs. maT
moaxerxes am resursis mobilizeba, Tumca me mikvirs,
rom es aRmoCnda 20%, imitom
rom bevrad naklebi unda
yofiliyo. magram rac aris,
aris. iseve rogorc saparlamento arCevnebis dros iyo
ararealuri is procenti,
rac miiRes da es Cven mier
aRiarebul iqna, asevea am
SemTxvevaSic, Cven mogvwons
Tu ar mogvwons, gvinda Tu
ar gvinda, `nacionaluri
moZraoba~ gavida meore adgilze. rogori opoziciuri
Zalaa, ramdenad jansaRia da
ramdenad pozitivis momtania
qveynisTvis, es sazogadoebam
Zalian kargad icis. faqtia,
rom esenic Cveni sazogadoebis nawili arian da Cven amas
ver gaveqceviT. politikuri
brZola grZeldeba, momavalSi gvelis adgilobrivi
arCevnebi, amasobaSi am parlamentis vadac gava da
gveqneba axali saparlamento
arCevnebi.
CvenTvisac
gakveTilia es garkveulwilad, rom viyoT ufro
metad mobilizebulebi da
mniSvnelovani reformebi gavataroT swored imitom, rom
mdgomareoba ukeTesobisken
Seicvalos da sazogadoebaSi Cveni politikuri gundis
mimarT ndoba gaizardos.
aseve, es garkveuli magaliTi da stimulia arasaparlamento opoziciisTvisac, rom
ufro metad gaaqtiurdnen da
moaxerxon Tundac `nacionalur
moZraobasTan~
gamklaveba, imitom rom es
rac Seexeba
arasaparlamento
partiebis mier bolo
arCevnebze dafiqsirebul
Sedegebs, rogor
SeafasebdiT monacemebs?
ar vici axla, rodesac
arCevnebze 1%-s an 2%-s miiReb, albaT, es raRacaze
metyvelebs da albaT, unda
Secvalon sakuTari taqtika,
strategia da gadaxedon TavianT politikur kurss. me
ver vaswavli maT amas, bevri
maTgani
Cemze
metad
gamocdilia politikaSi. mec,
sul raRac, 1 welia, movedi
da yvelam unda ifiqros sakuTar ganviTarebaze. isic
sakiTxavia, ramdenad sWirdeba am patara qveyanas amdeni
politikuri lideri da amdeni prezidentobis kandidati. es yvelaferi cota iumoristul JanrSi iyo gadasuli, imitom rom ar SeiZleba, amdeni saprezidento kandidati yofiliyo. win adgilobrivi da saparlamento
arCevnebia da ra Tqma unda,
unda gagviwion konkurencia,
rom SeZlon raRac warmatebis miRweva.
arCevnebamde 2 dRiT
adre `qarTuli ocnebis~
liderebis sakmaod
gafarToebuli Sexvedra
iyo da gavrcelda
informacia, rom
premierministrobis
kandidatze gaimarTa
msjeloba. gaqvT Tu ara
informacia imis Sesaxeb,
rom am sakiTxze
msjeloba ukve
dawyebulia da gundis
wevrebisTvis Tu aris
ukve cnobili, vin
Secvlis biZina
ivaniSvils?
premier-ministrma ganacxada,
rom misi Semcvlelis vi-
premieri
#9 (009) oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013
naobas SabaTs, partiis
liderebTan dagegmili Sexvedris Semdeg daasaxelebs.
SabaTis Sexvedra iqneba Semajamebeli, me ar minda sazogadoebas darCes STabeWdileba, rom SabaTs wydeba yvelaferi ise, rom manamde arc
ki yofila am sakiTxis ganxilva. ra Tqma unda, amaze
msjeloba da konsultaciebi ukve mimdinareobs, ubralod, SabaTs saboloo gadawyvetilebas miviRebT.
ukve cnobilia, rom
axali premieri iqneba
amJamindeli ministrTa
kabinetidan. Tu
SegiZliaT, miniSneba
gaakeToT, Zalovani
uwyebebis
mimarTulebidan iqneba
es kandidati Tu romeli
pasuxismgeblobebi da Sesabamisad, is gadawyvets, vin iqneba misi kabinetis wevri.
xelisuflebaSi mosvlis
Semdeg Tqveni gundis
wevrebi acxadebdnen, rom
SesaZloa, gubernatoris
instituti srulad
gauqmdes. apirebs Tu ara
parlamenti am sakiTxze
msjelobas da
mosalodnelia Tu ara
sakanonmdeblo reforma
am mxriv?
Cven vamzadebT
TviTmmarTvelobis Zalian seriozul reformas da Sesabamisad, kanonSi cvlilebebi mosalodnelia. rac Seexeba gubernatoris pozicias, mas
Semdeg, rac prezidentis
uflebamosilebebi mniSvnelovnad ikveceba da Cven
ukve
saparlamento
prezidentis
rwmunebulebis postebi?
ramdenad
mosalodnelia, rom
ramdenime maJoritari
deputati
sakanonmdeblodan
aRmasrulebel
xelisuflebaSi
vixiloT?
amaze saubari mas Semdeg daiwyeba, rac prezidenti fics
dadebs da parlamenti axal
mTavrobas ndobas gamoucxadebs. rac Seexeba axal gubernatorebs, SeiZleba saakaSvilma uflebamosilebis Sewyvetamde droebiT movaleobis Semsruleblebic daniSnos. is 17 noembramde prezidentia da Tu xval romelime
gubernatori uflebamosilebas moixsnis, ar aris gamoricxuli, mixeil saakaSvilma
bebi gvaqvs Sesatani da ar
gamovricxav, rom am kviraSic
vimsjeloT amis Sesaxeb. Tumca es Cemi gadasawyveti ar
aris, parlamentis biurom
unda gadawyvitos, rogori
iqneba momavali kviris ganrigi. zogadad, Cven gvinda,
rom, rac SeiZleba male SeZlos parlamentma TbilisSi
funqcionireba, vinaidan
quTaisSi Cveni muSaoba Zalian
bevr
dabrkolebasTanaa
dakavSirebuli da parlamentisa da mTavrobis efeqturi
TanamSromlobisTvis, komunikaciisTvis Zalian bevr problemas qmnis. Tumca ramdenad
movaxerxebT amas, damokidebulia imaze, SevitanT Tu ara
konstituciaSi cvlilebebs
da ramdenad droulad dasruldeba saremonto sam-
li iyo. aseTi rezidenciis
qonis ufleba sakuTari
TavisTvis prezidents SeiZleboda mieca maSin, roca is
okupirebul teritoriebs
daabrunebda.
mixeil saakaSvils
seriozul
politikur
Tanamdebobaze yofnis
vada 2 kviraSi ewureba,
rogor warmogidgeniaT
misi politikuri
momavali?
mixeil saakaSvili ukve aris
am qveynis warsuli da arcTu
ise saxarbielo warsuli.
dro gava da am epoqas istoria kidev ufro ukeT Seafasebs. samwuxarod, es 9 weli
Zalian mZime iyo Cveni qveynis istoriisTvis. SeiZleba
raRac epizodurad pozitivebi iyo, magaliTad,
11
axali ambebi
seqtemberSi 4 313
biznessubieqti
daregistrirda
2013 wlis seqtembris TveSi qveyanaSi registrirebuli
biznes subieqtebis raodenobam 4 313 erTeuli Seadgina, romelTa Soris 97.2% samewarmeo subieqtia (individualuri mewarme, solidaruli
pasuxismgeblobis sazogadoeba, SezRuduli pasuxismgeblobis sazogadoeba, saaqciosazogadoeba, komandituri
sazogadoeba, kooperativi,
ucxouri samewarmeo iuridiuli piris filiali), xolo
2.8% - arasamewarmeo subieqti (arasamewarmeo iuridiuli
piri, ucxouri arasamewarmeo
iuridiuli piris filiali,
sajaro samarTlis iuridiuli
piri). amave TveSi biznesis
registraciis Tvis indeqsi
(dekemberi 2010=100) 0.985
doneze dafiqsirda.
a.w. seqtembris TveSi zrda
dafiqsirda rogorc wina
TvesTan (18.4%-iT), ise wina
wlis imaveTvesTan (57.3%-iT)
SedarebiT.
2013 wlis seqtembris TveSi wina TvesTan SedarebiT
samewarmeo
subieqtebis
raodenoba 20.8%-iT gaizarda,
xolo arasamewarmeo subieqtebis raodenoba 30.5%-iT
Semcirda. gansxvavebuli tendencia dafiqsirda wina wlis
imave TvesTan SedarebiT: samewarmeo subieqtebis raodenobis zrda 56.5%-iT da arasamewarmeo subieqtebis raodenobis zrda 89.1%-iT.
axali ambebi
sferodan?
absoluturad mesmis sazogadoebis interesi da swori da
legitimuri kiTxvacaa, magram me ar minda movlenebs
gavuswro, wesi aris wesi, iTqva, rom sabolood gaJRerdeba koaliciis politsabWosa
da saparlamento umravlesobis wevrebTan SabaTs
dagegmili Sexvedris Semdeg.
aqedan gamomdinare, me raime
miniSnebas ver gavakeTeb, 1
kviris Tavze gveqneba Zalian
saintereso informacia.
axal ministrTa kabinetSi
unda velodoT Tu ara
seriozul cvlilebebs an
gadaadgilebebs?
am Temaze biZina ivaniSvilmac
isaubra da ganacxada, rom
raime arsebiTi cvlilebebi
ar iqneba. axal premierTan
moTaTbirebiT
moxdeba
mTavrobis dakompleqteba da
cxadia, axal premier-ministrs sruli ufleba aqvs,
gadawyvetilebebis miRebaSi
CaerTos, radgan es misi konstituciuri uflebaa. ase
rom, masze iqneba Zalian didi
mmarTvelobaze gadavdivarT,
cxadia, rom iseTi vertikali, rogoric prezidentsa
da gubernatorebs Soris manamde arsebobda, uqmdeba.
aqedan gamomdinare, cvlilebebi mosalodnelia. parlamentma miiRo dadgenileba sakonstitucio komisiis Seqmnis Sesaxeb, Cven ukve noembris
bolomde unda davakompleqtoT es komisia da man daiwyos muSaoba. ase rom, ar aris
gamoricxuli, rom cvlilebebi, romelsac es komisia
moamzadebs da sabolood mas
parlamenti miiRebs, gubernatoris institutsac Seexos.
es procesebi ukve dawyebulia, radgan winasaarCevno
periodSi, sanam parlamenti
muSaobas Sewyvetda, ukve miRebuli iyo sakonstitucio
komisiis Seqmnis dadgenileba.
sanam sakonstitucio
reforma gatardeba da
gubernatoris institutis
uflebamosilebebi da
funqciebi gadaixedeba,
aris Tu ara versiebi,
vin SeiZleba daikavos
vinme sxva daniSnos. iciT, rom
mis administraciaSi ramdenime poziciaze sul axlaxan
axali TanamSromlebi daniSna. is maqsimalurad cdilobs, bolo dRemde gamoiyenos Tavisi resursi da Seavsos Tu sadme rame vakansiis
Sevseba SeuZlia. magram Tu
man movaleobis Semsruleblebi marTlac daniSna, es
iqneba absoluturad araswori, araadekvaturi da
gaumarTlebeli
gadawyvetileba, roca 2 kvira aqvs
darCenili.
parlamentis
adgilsamyofelis
Secvlis sakiTxs
rodidan daubrundebiT
da ramdenad sworad
migaCniaT misi dabruneba
dedaqalaqSi? aseve,
prezidentis avlabris
rezidenciis samomavlo
bedze Tu gaqvT
informacia, ra funqcia
miecema am Senobas?
sagazafxulo sesiamde ar
mgonia, parlamenti TbilisSi
dabrundes, Tumca manamde
Cven konstituciaSi cvlile-
uSaoebi Zvel SenobaSi. imitom, rom sruliad ganadgurebulia am momentSi. rac Seexeba avlabris rezidencias,
aseTi uzarmazari, grandiozuli, pompezuri rezidencia
zogadad ramdenad saWiro
iyo saqarTvelos prezidentisTvis, bevrjer dasmula
amaze kiTxva. qveyanaSi, romlis teritoriebic okupirebulia, sadac amdeni socialurad daucveli da problemaa, ar SeiZleba aseT brolis sasaxleSi cxovrobdes
qveynis prezidenti. es saakaSvilisTvis iyo damaxasiaTebeli, magram giorgi margvelaSvili iqneba iseT rezidenciaSi, romelic Cveni qveynis
mdgomareobis Sesabamisia.
rac Seexeba avlabris rezidencias, es Senoba saxelmwifos sakuTrebaa, jer ar aris
gadawyvetili, ras movuxerxebT, Tumca gonivrulad gamoviyenebT. arqiteqturis nimuSia es Senoba, saxelmwifo
sakuTrebaa da saxelmwifo mas
mouvlis, Tumca prezidentis
rezidenciisTvis Seuferebe-
erovnuli gamocdebi, magram
imdenad sWarbobs uaryofiTi
da cudi, rom, samwuxarod, es
arcTu ise kargad gasaxsenebeli warsuli iqneba. me namdvilad ar mgonia, rom
saakaSvilis adgili qarTul
politikaSi darCa da aris, me
mgoni, Tavis partiasac problemebs uqmnis ukve da
vfiqrob, rom Tanapartielebic Seecdebian misgan
Tavis daRwevas. garegnulad
es SeiZleba ar Cans, magram
pirveli, visac, albaT, saakaSvilis politikidan wasvla
surs, es misi Tanagundelebi
arian.
ramdenad varaudobT,
rom
mixeil saakaSvilis
mimarT sisxlis
samarTlebrivi devna
daiwyos da rogorc
iurists, SegiZliaT Tu
ara, daasaxeloT
savaraudo magaliTebi,
riTac SesaZloa,
gamoZieba dainteresdes?
me vfiqrob, Zalian bevri
kiTxvaa saakaSvilTan. yvela
im mimarTulebiT, ra mimarTulebiTac xSir SemTxveva-
Si Zalian aSkara, safuZvliani
da cxadi kiTxvebi arsebobs,
Cveni xelisufleba dainteresdeba. Tu adamians danaSauli aqvs Cadenili da amas sasamarTlo da prokuratura
daasabuTebs, am adamianma pasuxi unda agos. braldebebs
ver davasaxeleb, es prokuraturis saqmea da mis funqcias
ver vitvirTav, magram darwmunebuli var, rom prokuratura am sakiTxs mixedavs.
me realurad mimaCnia, es sakiTxi dRis wesrigSi dadges,
imitom rom xelisuflebaSi
misi yofnis dros Zalian
bevr sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT
gadawyvetilebebi kanonis
farglebsa da CarCoebs scdeboda. politikuri gadawyvetilebebisTvis ki ar unda
daisajos vinme, aramed sisxlis
samarTlis
danaSaulisTvis da mis qmedebebSi
vfiqrob, rom amis niSnebi iyo,
magram es Sesabamisma uwyebam
unda gadawyvitos. Cemi
damokidebuleba aseTia, rom
vinc ar unda iyos, saakaSvilia Tu sxva, Tu mas danaSauli
aqvs Cadenili, mas es umtkicdeba da aris Sesabamisi
faqtebi, yvelam pasuxi unda
agos... mere ra, rom is prezidenti iyo?! piriqiT, prezidents gacilebiT meti pasuxismgebloba aqvs. ra Tqma
unda, politikuri gadawyvetilebebisTvis ar unda
agos pasuxi, unda agos danaSaulebisTvis da amas Sesabamisi uwyebebi gamoiZieben.
12 premieri
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
`es iqneba Senoba, sadac saxalxo
RonisZiebebi moewyoba~
giorgi xuxia
`premieri~ saparlamento
umravlesobis liders
daviT saganeliZes
esaubra.
b-no daviT, axla,
rodesac aRmasrulebel
da sakanonmdeblo
xelisuflebasTan erTad
saprezidento
mmarTvelobis berketic
koalicia `qarTul
ocnebas~ ekuTvnis, ra
iqneba Tqveni
xelisuflebisTvis
prioritetuli uaxloesi
periodis ganmavlobaSi?
Cemi poziciaa, mas Semdeg, rac
prezidents, parlamentsa da
mTavrobas Soris aRar iqneba
iseTi
damokidebuleba,
rogoric iyo, ori ZiriTadi
mimarTuleba gamoikveTeba:
seriozuli garRveva sagareo urTierTobebSi im mxriv,
rom, ase Tu ise, dabrkolebuli procedurebi aRar
iarsebebs. magaliTad, elCebis daniSvna, sagareo politikaSi
gansxvavebuli
poziciebis dafiqsireba, is
rasac xandaxan mixeil saakaSvili da misi gundi garkveulwilad xels uSlidnen da
wamlavdnen situacias ucxoeTSi, es faqtorebi ar iarsebebs da meore umniSvnelovanesi prioriteti iqneba qveyanaSi investiciebis mozidva.
is politikuri riskebi, rac
mixeil
saakaSvilis
mmarTvelobis pirobebSi qveyanaSi arsebobda da biznesisTvis damabrkolebel faqtors warmoadgenda, xels
uSlida, rom garedan Semosul seriozul investicie-
bze yofiliyo saubari, imedi
maqvs, aRar iqneba. saqarTvelo Zalian swrafi tempiT,
Zalian didi nabijebiT unda
waviyvanoT ekonomikuri aRmavlobisken. amas, bunebrivia,
sWirdeba seriozuli programebis ganviTareba da investiciebis mozidva.
rac Seexeba premierministris Semcvlelis
sakiTxs, biZina
ivaniSvilma ganacxada,
rom mis vinaobas SabaTs
daasaxelebs, Tumca manam
konsultaciebs
politikur gundTan
gaivlis. Tqven, rogorc
umravlesobis liders,
Tu gaqvT informacia,
vin SeiZleba Secvalos
biZina ivaniSvili da iyo
Tu ara aRniSnuli
sakiTxis pirveladi
ganxilva?
am kiTxvas Zalian mokled
vupasuxeb. namdvilad ar SemiZlia, detaluri informacia mogceT. minda davadasturo, rom Cven gvqonda
saubari, rom es Tema samSabaTs gangvexila, Tumca imis
gamo, rom am kviraSi parlaments quTaisSi mouwevs
muSaoba, es sakiTxi kviris
bolosTvis gadaido. Sesabamisad,
rodesac
iqidan
davbrundebiT, paraskevs an
SabaTs aris dagegmili am
Temaze konsultaciebi da
yvelafer
amis
Semdeg
gairkveva. Cemgan winaswar
amaze varaudebiT saubari
marTebuli ar iqneba, radgan
gadawyvetileba bolomde ar
aris miRebuli.
parlamenti ubrundeba
samuSao reJims. ra iqneba
umaRlesi sakanonmdeblo
organos dRis wesrigSi
gaTvaliswinebuli
upirvelesi sakiTxebi,
radgan prezidentma
mixeil saakaSvilma
ganacxada, rom
saprezidento arCevnebis
dasrulebisTanave
parlamentis TbilisSi
gadatanis sakiTxs uyrian
kenWs, adasturebT Tu
ara am informacias?
minda giTxraT, rom parlaments sakmaod bevri Tema aqvs
dasamuSavebeli. gamomdinare
ori faqtoridan: pirveli,
imis gamo, rom arCevnebamde
TiTqmis 1 Tvis ganmavlobaSi
parlamenti ar muSaobda, bevri mimdinare problema dagrovda da meore, is, rom
premieri
#9 (009) oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013
prezidentis inauguraciis
Semdgom ZalaSi Sedis axali
konstitucia, romelsac
garkveuli
adaptireba
sWirdeba bevr kanonTan, es
damatebiT problemebsa da
saqmeebs aCens. rac Seexeba
erT-erT Temas, rac parlamentis TbilisSi gadatanasTanaa dakavSirebuli, bunebrivia, es aqtualuri sakiTxia, Tumca ar mgonia, am TemiT
daviwyoT, radgan es ar aris
is, rac unda uswrebdes yvelafers sxvas. es TavisTavad
Zalian saWiro da aucilebeli Temaa, magram me vfiqrob,
rom parlamentis gadatana
momavali wlis Tebervlidan
moxdeba. ase rom, manamde
didi droa da amiT ar daviwyebT muSaobas.
Tebervlidan
parlamentis TbilisSi
gadatanis sakiTxze
msjeloba daiwyeba Tu
Tebervlidan ukve
Seicvlis mdebareobas
qveynis umaRlesi
sakanonmdeblo organo?
Tebervlidan ganxilva ar
daiwyeba, fizikurad gadmosvlas vgulisxmob. manamde
moxdeba kanonis miReba da es
kanoni noemberSi iqneba miRebuli Tu dekemberSi, arafers
Secvlis. es sakiTxi imdenad
saCqaro ar aris, rom ase
ucbad inauguraciisTvis an
axali konstituciisTvis
iyos saWiro. Cven am sakiTxs,
albaT, wlis bolomde davayenebT da ara _ uaxloes
kvirebSi.
gasuli Tveebis
ganmavlobaSi eqspertebi
da rigi politikosebi
acxadebdnen, rom
`nacionaluri moZraoba~
ar aris Zlieri
opoziciuri partia da
parlamentSi am partiis
40%-iani
warmomadgenloba ar
asaxavs sazogadoebis
ganwyobas. realurad am
arCevnebSi `nacmoZraobam~
meore adgili daikava
da gakeTda gancxadebebi,
rom am maCvenebliT
aRniSnulma partiam
SeZlo negatiuri
stereotipis gaqarwyleba.
amis Semdeg Tqven Tu
miiCnevT am partias #1
opoziciur Zalad
mis saparlamento
warmomadgenlobas
legitimurad?
da
namdvilad ar veTanxmebi, rom
am SedegiT `nacionalurma
moZraobam~ 40%-iani saparlamento warmomadgenloba gaimyara. am arCevnebma kidev
erTxel daarwmuna sazogadoeba imaSi, rom es partia namdvilad ar imsaxurebs am warmomadgenlobas.
`nacionalurma
moZraobam~ rom aseTi
Sedegi daimsaxura, aq ori
Temaa
mniSvnelovani.
pirvelia is, rom, samwuxarod, dRes saqarTveloSi
ar aris Zlieri opozicia
da
me
`nacionalur
moZraobaze~ namdvilad
ver vityvi, rom opoziciuri Zalaa, es aris Zala,
romelic jer kidev inerciiT modis. am partias
adgilobrivi
TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebamde
jer kidev aqvs seriozuli saxelisuflebo berketebi _ sakrebuloebi,
gamgeobebi, Sors rom ar
wavideT dedaqalaqis meria da misdami daqvemdebarebuli samsaxurebi jer
kidev
`nacionaluri
moZraobis~ xelSia da Sesabamisad, es berketi maT
maqsimalurad gamoiyenes.
meore sakiTxi, ris gamoc
maT es maCvenebeli miiRes,
iyo is, rom, samwuxarod,
mosaxleobis raRac nawilma ar CaTvala, rom aucilebeli iyo saarCevno
yuTTan misvla, radgan
fiqrobdnen, rom isedac
margvelaSvili gaimarjvebda da am SedarebiT
dabalma aqtiurobam `nacionaluri moZraobis~
procenti awia. es aris
politikuri Zala, romelic yoveldRe ukan-ukan wava.
saakaSvilma ganacxada, rom
20%-iani starti maTTvis
aris winapiroba, rom momavalSi gaZlierdebian, magram aq minda Sevaxseno, rom
maT 99%-iani starti hqondaT
9 wlis winaT da is gaanadgures da daamTavres imiT,
rom xalxi bednieria maTi
politikidan mocilebiT da
20%-iani maCveneblisTvis mobRauWeba aris narCenisTvis
mobRauWeba. es maCvenebeli
inerciiTaa wamosuli da ara
politikuri partiis mier
damsaxurebuli.
koalicia `qarTuli
ocnebis~ xelisuflebaSi
mosvlisas keTdeboda
da aseTi Zlieri aparati ar
aris saWiro regionis gubernatorisTvis.
prezidentis administracia
konsultaciebis Semdeg Camoayalibebs pozicias.
TiTqmis yvela moqmedma
gubernatorma datova
ukve cnobilia, rom
axali prezidenti
avlabris rezidenciaSi
ar imuSavebs. ra
datvirTva miecema am
Senobas momavalSi?
Tavdapirvelad
gavrcelda informacia,
rom iq sagareo saqmeTa
saministro
ganTavsdeboda, Tumca
Semdeg es informacia
uaryofil iqna.
Tanamdeboba. vin
SeiZleba moiazrebodnen
regionebSi axali
prezidentis
vnaxoT, es momavlis sakiTxia,
magram
cxadia,
rom
saqarTvelosnair patara
qveyanas amxela saprezidento apartamenti namdvilad
ar sWirdeba. es iyo axireba
da amaSi uzarmazari fuli
daixarja. Sesabamisad, xalxis fuliT agebul SenobasTan
dakavSirebiT gadawyvetileba xalxma unda miiRos da
gadawyvitos, ra ganTavsdeba
masSi. Cemi azriT, es iqneba
Senoba, sadac saxalxo
RonisZiebebi moewyoba. es SeiZleba iyos garkveuli
prezentaciebi, gamofenebi,
miRebebi da ase Semdeg. faqtia, rom giorgi margvelaSvili im SenobaSi ar iqneba, es
ukve gadawyvetilia.
giorgi
margvelaSvilis
winasaarCevno
slogani iyo, rom
misi gaprezidentebis
SemTxvevaSi
koabitacia
dasruldeboda. ra
iqneba amis
pirveladi
gamovlineba uaxloes
momavalSi?
koabitaciis dasruleba
TavisTavad gulisxmobs
imas, rom prezidenti,
mTavroba da parlamenti sxvadasxva mxares ar
iqnebian. iyo prezidenti da parlamenti, romlebic sxvadasxva mxares
idgnen da gindoda Tu
ara, unda SegeTanxmebina Tema da an SeaTanxmebdi, an vera. am SemTxvevaSi es dabrkoleba moxsnilia, erTi gundia da
es koabitaciac aravis
araferSi sWirdeba. is,
rom erTi mxare raRacas
akeTebda da meore amas
blokavda, Tundac elCebis daniSvnis sakiTxi
rom gavixsenoT, msgavsi
dabrkolebebi aRar iqneba.
gancxadebebi, rom
SesaZloa, gubernatoris
instituti gauqmebuliyo.
amjerad rogoria Tqveni
pozicia, gegmavT Tu ara
am mxriv cvlilebebs?
es sakiTxi prezidentis gadasawyvetia, magram, Cemi azriT,
an gauqmebaze unda iyos
saubari, an Zirfesvianad restruqturizaciaze. imitom,
rom aseTi gadaberili Stati
rwmunebulebad. sruliad
axali politikuri
figurebis SerCeva
moxdeba Tu SesaZloa,
sxvadasxva maJoritari
deputatebis
sakanonmdeblodan
aRmasrulebel
xelisuflebaSi
gadanacvleba vixiloT?
jerjerobiT ar gvqonia amaze
msjeloba da amaze axali
samarTlianobis
aRdgena
sazogadoebis erTerT mTavar
moTxovnad dRemde
rCeba. am mxriv,
axali mTavroba da
erTiani saxelisuflebo
Stoebi apirebT Tu ara
qmediTi nabijebis
gadadgmas?
sasamarTlo sistema aris
Tema, romelic CemTvis axla
namdvilad aqilevsis quslia.
aq seriozuli reformebia
gasatarebeli da es reformebi Zalian swrafad Tu ara,
neli nabijebiT wava win.
13
axali ambebi
seqtemberSi uZravi
qonebis
saregistracio
tranzaqciaTa
raodenoba 31.3%-iT
Semcirda
2013 wlis seqtembris TveSi uZravi qonebis saregistracio
tranzaqciaTa
raodenoba wina wlisimave
TvesTan SedarebiT 31.3%-iT
Semcirda da qveynis masStabiT 40 513 erTeuli Seadgina. a.w.seqtemberi 2010-2013
wlebis imave TvesTan SedarebiT upiratesi klebiT gam-
oirCeva: 2010 wlisseqtemberTan (31 592 erTeuli saregistracio tranzaqcia)
SedarebiT - zrda 28.2%-iT,
2011wlis seqtemberTan (42
283 erTeuli saregistracio tranzaqcia) SedarebiT
- kleba 4.2%-iT da2012 wlis
seqtemberTan (59 009 erTeuli saregistracio tranzaqcia) SedarebiT - kleba
31.3%-iT.
wina TvesTan SedarebiT
saregistracio tranzaqciebis raodenoba 1.6%-iT
gaizarda: kleba dafiqsirda pirveladi (10.7%-iT),
xolo zrda - meoradi (4.7%iT) saregistracio tranzaqciebisraodenobaSi.
2013 wlis seqtembris TveSi saregistracio tranzaqciebis Tvis indeqsi (dekemberi 2010 =100) dafiqsirda 0.963 doneze, rac CamorCeba wina wlis imave Tvis indeqss (1.403).aSkaraa, rom wina
wlis imave TvesTan SedarebiT Semcirda uZravi qonebis
rogorc
pirveladi(60.2%-iT), ise meoradi
(18.9%-iT) tranzaqciebis
raodenoba.
axali ambebi
14 premieri
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
`aucilebelia, samarTaldamcavi organoebi dainteresdnen
kaxa
koJoriZe: amgvari faqtebiT da moaxdinon reagireba~
`gasaRebi arCevnebis mSvidobianad,
Tavisufal garemoSi Casatareblad
xelisuflebis xelSia~
`saia Cvens saCivrebs bolomde
mivyvebiT, radgan darRvevebi
romelic axala dafiqsirda,
momavalSi aRar gameordes~
miranda nabaxteveli
w
ina
saparlamento
da
saprezidento
arCevnebisgan
gansxvavebiT,
2013 wlis saprezidento
arCevnebma uprecedentod
mSvid viTarebaSi Caiara.
saerTaSoriso
sadamkvirveblo misiebis
gancxadebiT,
saqarTvelom
demokratiuli
ganviTarebis gzaze
kidev erTi nabiji
gadadga. miuxedavad
amisa, arCevnebze
ramdenime xarvezi mainc
dafiqsirda. sakiTxis
irgvliv `premiers~ saias Tavmjdomare kaxa
koJoriZe esaubra.
batono kaxa, saia
monitorings uwevda 2012
wlis saparlamento
arCevnebsa da 2013 wlis
saprezidento arCevnebs.
rogor fiqrobT, ra
gansxvavebaa maT Soris,
pozitiuri Tu negatiuri?
pirvel rigSi, roca erTmaneTs vadarebT 2012 wlis saparlamento da 2013 wlis
saprezidento arCevnebs, mTavari gansxvaveba maT Soris
winasaarCevno garemo iyo. miuxedavad imisa, rom saparlamento arCevnebis dRec darRvevebiT warimarTa, Cemi
azriT, ufro meti darRveva
winasaarCevno periodSi iyo,
rasac ver vityviT saprezidento arCevnebis winasaarCevno garemoze. maSin
aTeulobiT Jurnalists
xeli SeeSala profesiuli
saqmianobis ganxorcielebis
procesSi, dafiqsirda administraciuli resursis gamoyenebis araerTi faqti, igive
antenebis dayadaRebis Tema
da
a.S.
saparlamento
arCevnebis dRes xaSuris
saarCevno ubanze rac moxda,
Tavisi simZimiTa da xasiaTiT,
aRemateba saprezidento
arCevnebze gamokveTil darRvevas erTad aRebuls. imedia, xaSuris saarCevno ubanze momxdari darRvevis
analogi
saqarTvelos
arCevnebze arasodes ganmeordeba, roca ubanze SeiaraRebuli pirebi arCevnebis
Sedegs Secvlian. uSualod
kenWisyris dRis mixedviT Tu
SevadarebT saprezidento
arCevnebsa da saparlamento
arCevnebs, maT Soris gansxvaveba bevr aspeqtSi gamoixateba. darRvevebis xasiaTidan dawyebuli saarCevno
administraciis mondomebiT
damTavrebuli. am yvelaferSi vgulisxmob imas, rom Cveni mxridan konkretuli darRvevebis dafiqsirebis SemTxvevaSi komisiis wevrebi reagirebas axdendnen da xarvezebs asworebdnen, rac adre
ar xdeboda.
rogor fiqrobT,
xelisuflebis neba iyo,
rom
saprezidento
arCevnebi mSvid,
Tavisufal garemoSi
Catarebuliyo?
ki, amis Tqma namdvilad SemiZlia. ufro metsac getyviT,
gasaRebi imisTvis, rom
arCevnebi
mSvidobianad,
Tavisufal
garemoSi
Catardes, xelisuflebis xelSia. es, principSi, misi
valdebulebaa. am valdebulebis Sesruleba adre
cudad xdeboda, Semdeg cota
ukeTesad da axla 2013 wlis
saprezidento arCevnebze xelisuflebis neba, arCevnebi
samarTlianad, mSvidobian viTarebaSi Catarebuliyo, gadamwyveti iyo, ris gamoc
arCevnebma mSvid garemoSi
Caiara.
saia-m saprezidento
arCevnebze 33 saCivari
da 50 SeniSvna
daafiqsira. Tqveni
azriT, romeli iyo
yvelaze mniSvnelovani
darRveva?
arCevnebze Cven ar dagvifiqsirebia iseTi SeniSvna,
romelsac SeuZlia saprezidento arCevnebis Sedegze
gardatexa moaxdinos. Tumca
Cven mier dafiqsirebuli
darRvevebi mniSvnelovania
da yuradReba aucileblad
unda mieqces. saia Cvens saCivrebs bolomde mivyvebiT,
imisTvis rom darRvevebi,
romelic axala dafiqsirda,
momavalSi aRar gameordes.
magaliTad, Cven davafiqsireT wlisyris dros xarvezebi, igive sakontrolo
furclis Cagdebis dros,
roca komisiis wevrebma Tavisi movaleoba ver Seasrules
da maTTvis disciplinuri pasuxismgeblobis dakisrebas
viTxovT. cxadia, Cveni TviTmizani ar aris vinmes dasja,
magram momavalSi amgvari
darRvevebis prevenciisTvis
yvelaze kargi meqanizmia is,
rom konkretul darRvevebs
Sesabamisi samarTlebrivi
reagireba mohyves. saprezidento arCevnebze erT-erT
darRvevad minda gamovyo
sxvis nacvlad xmis micemis
procedura. marTalia, Cven
am mimarTulebiT 3-4 darRveva davafiqsireT da mas
masStaburi xasiaTi ar hqonda, magram esec Zalian mniSvnelovani xarvezia im TvalsazrisiT, rom is Seicavs ara
mxolod saarCevno kanonmdeblobis darRvevis niSnebs,
aramed SesaZloa, danaSaulis
niSnebsac hqondes adgili. amitom aucilebelia, samarTaldamcavi organoebi dainteresdnen amgvari faqtebiT
da moaxdinon reagireba.
mTlianobaSi SegviZlia
Tqma, rom saprezidento
arCevnebma seriozuli
darRvevebis gareSe,
mSvid da samarTlian
garemoSi Caiara?
2013 wlis saprezidento
arCevnebma mSvid viTarebaSi
Caiara. mTavari mainc is aris,
rom rigiT amomrCevels SesaZlebloba hqonda sakuTari
arCevani yovelgvari SiSis
gareSe gaekeTebina. aravis ar
eSinoda, Tu isini opoziciur saprezidento kandidats
Semoxazavdnen, samsaxuridan
gaaTavisuflebdnen, an daapatimrebdnen a.S. gaxsovT, saparlamento arCevnebze gaCenilma SiSma rogori absurduli molodini gaaCina. magaliTad, adamianebs eSinodaT, Tu maTTvis sasurvel
kandidats Semoxazavdnen, viRac amas daafiqsirebda,
saubari imazec ki iyo, rom
kalami, romliTac saarCevno
ubanze arCevans akeTeb, 5
wuTSi orTqldeboda. sabednierod, wels amgvari SiSi ar
arsebobda da amomrCevlebs
Tavisuflad SeeZloT, arCevani gaekeTebinaT. erT-erTi
mniSvnelovani faqti, romelic 2013 wlis arCevnebze gamoikveTa, amomrCevlebis SedarebiT naklebi aqtivobaa,
rasac saTanado yuradRebis
miqceva unda.
sadamkvirveblo misiebis
ganmartebiT,
saprezidento arCevnebiT
saqarTvelom
demokratiis
ganviTarebis gzaze kidev
erTi nabiji gadadga.
Tqven, rogorc
uflebadamcveli, ra
rekomendaciebs
miscemdiT xelisuflebas,
rom momdevno arCevnebi
ufro gamWvirvale da
samarTliani iyos?
mec
mimaCnia,
rom
saqarTvelom
arCevnebis
demokratiulad Catarebis
kuTxiT mniSvnelovani pozitiuri svla gaakeTa. erTerTi mniSvnelovani problema, rasac saprezidento
arCevnebze wavawydiT, is aris,
rom ZiriTadad ubnebze
saarCevno komisiis wevrebis
kvalifikaciaa asamaRlebeli.
maT ukeT unda icodnen
saarCevno kanonmdebloba.
aseve, Cven gvaqvs konkretuli rekomendaciebi, ra cvlilebebi unda ganxorcieldes saarCevno kanonmdeblobaSi, rogor unda dakompleqtdes saarCevno administracia. am yvelafers
sWirdeba saTanado reagireba, Seswavla da analizi.
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`miSa
miSa~ - istoriis motyuebis mcdeloba
erT lukmad ar eyofa!!!
mere gamobrZandes `SuSis sasaxlidan~ an Camofrindes parizidan
da
moawyos
Sexvedrebi
eqspertebTan Tu gazeTis redaqtorebTan.
malxaz lebaniZe
s
aprezidento
arCevnebamde
ramdenime
dRiT adre
miSa `riyis
trubebTan~
mivida, sadac
muskomediis Tu sxva
raRac msgavsi Teatris
gaxsnas apirebda, `kidev
erTi weli mainc~ rom
dascloda, rogorc
xSirad imeorebs xolme
bolo dros.
veraze, sadac gaizarda, 1980ian wlebSi iyo e.w. `veris trubebi~ _ imdroindeli elituri
oqros axalgazrdobis, anu
`svetski Zveli biWebis~ birJaobis adgili, romelic miSas
ueWvelad (ueWvelad!!!) mwared
axsovs.
rac Seexeba `riyis trubebs~,
rogorc Cans, baTumis teqnologiur universitetTan
erTad (rac, sinamdvileSi, kidev
erTi miTia, radgan amerikelebma
mis dafinansebaze uari Tqves da
TbilisSi aSeneba moiTxoves), is
epoqis simbolod iqceva. im dauviwyari epoqisa, rodesac lamis
yoveldRe ixsneboda axali xidebi, avtostradebi, impozanturi
nagebobebi, iusticiis saxlebi,
xolo qveyanaSi ganaxlebis, winsvlis, Senebis, progresis atmosfero sufevda.
yvela-yvela
da
am
suliskveTebis SeqmnaSi miSas
badali marTla ar hyavda. es
dResac misi mTavari resursia:
mivaqcioT yuradReba, rom
`riyis trubebTan~ ZiriTadad
axalgazrdebi miiwvia da swored
maT uTxra: `araferic ar
mTavrdeba, yvelaferi mxolod
axla iwyeba da Tqven mTavari
mamoZravebeli Zala iqnebiTo~.
anu SeiZleba darwmunebiT
iTqvas: jer kidev saprezidento arCevnebamde miSa saakaSvilma axali revoluciisTvis daiwyo mzadeba! da es `tyuili fafxuri~ sulac ar aris, rogorc
zogierT regvens
eCveneba.
gulwrfelad SeiZleba Segecodos biZina ivaniSvilis mier danatovari premier-ministri. vinc
ar unda iyos, miSas es axali
mTavroba erT lukmad ar eyofa. miT umetes, rom hyavs
Zlieri fraqcia parlamentSi da
faruli momxreebi `qarTuli
ocnebis~ liberalur-prodasavlur frTaSi.
xvalve ara, magram droTa
ganmavlobaSi es resursebi aucileblad warmatebiT iqneba
gamoyenebuli xelisuflebaSi
dasabruneblad. Tanac, ara mxolod
da
ara
imdenad
arCevnebiT,
ramdenadac
saarCevno teqnologiaTa kombinirebiT revoluciur taqtikasTan _ iseve, rogorc 2003
wels.
* * *
sinamdvileSi, 2003 wlis 2
noembris arCevnebze miSam da
misma gundma, sul raRac, 22-25
procenti miiRo, magram revoluciisTvis amas xeli ar SeuSlia. da saerTod, unda gavigoT,
rom, rodesac saqme gvaqvs iseT
niWier
revolucionerTan,
damTavrda Tu ara saakaSvilis
epoqa saqarTveloSi?
rogoric miSaa, arCevnebs meoradi mniSvneloba eniWeba. mTavari ki revoluciuri resursia.
am resursis mobilizeba man ukve
gasul xuTSabaTs daiwyo, roca
axalgazrdebs uTxra: `momaval
brZolaSi mTavari roli Tqven
dagekisrebaTo~.
biZina ivaniSvilis `wasvlis~
Semdeg (ramdenic ar unda iZaxos, `ki ar mivdivar, gadavdivaro~, saqarTvelo den siaopins
ver aitans) qveyanaSi daaxloebiT
eduard
SevardnaZis
mmarTvelobis bolo wlebis magvari situacia Seiqmneba: nazi
pluralizmiT, sruli TavisuflebiT, politikur ZalTa diskusiebiT, gaurkvevlobiT, mere
esebs ar Seexo) da maradiuli
debatebiT parlamentSi, romelic mTavrobis `koleqtiur kuratorad~ iqceva! ese igi, sxvadasxva fraqciebTan, anu `interes-jgufebTan~ winaswari SeTanxmebis gareSe, momavali ministrTa kabineti verc erT seriozul gadawyvetilebas ver miiRebs. aseT situaciaSi raime
ekonomikur progresze laparakic zedmetia _ marTlac rom
`iSiSvlos~ biZina ivaniSvilma
miliardebi, rasac, sinamdvileSi, sulac ar apirebs.
realurad, gasuli wlebis
ekonomikur zrdas `miSas avtoritarizmi~ ganapirobebda,
xolo Sida Tu gare investore-
da `korumpirebuli reJimis xelaxal damxobaze~ mosaubre
populisti opozicioneri _ seriozuli dasayrdeniT mosaxleobis yvelaze aqtiur, pasionarul da `gamkeTebel~ nawilSi.
es imgvari mocemulobaa,
romelsac demokratia da pluralizmi mxolod gaaZlierebs,
anu miSas sasargeblod imuSavebs.
Zalian cudad unda icnobde miSas, mis mentalobas,
suliskveTebas, azrovnebis wess,
politikur stils, rom daijero: is Seurigdeba simSvidesa da
stabilurobas, romelic, misi
absoluturad gulwrfeli aRqmiT, `Waobia~. nuTu, vinmes hgo-
ciaze laparakobda, mxolod
meqrTameobas ki ar gulisxmobda (Tumca amis meti marTla ra
iyo SevardnaZisas), aramed
swored xsenebul simSvidesa da
stabilurobas, rac, vimeoreb,
misi mentaluri aRqmiT, `Waobia~.
amitom, raki miSas dapatimrebas demokratiuli, prodasavluri da `evropasTan asocirebuli~ xelisufleba ver moaxerxebs, unda davaskvnaT, rom
`saintereso cxovreba~ am qveyanaSi mxolod axla iwyeba! da
udidesi damsaxureba amaSi imave
biZina ivaniSvils miuZRvis, raki
sruliad gaugebari motivebiT
midis politikidan, da qveyanas
utovebs sacodav personaJebs,
yvelaferze xelCaqneulobiT,
konkretul gadawyvetilebaTa
miRebis uunarobiT (raki SeuZlebelia, Tu xelisufleba xar
da gadawyvetilebebs iReb, ama
Tu im socialuri jgufis inter-
bi rogorc ar debdnen fuls
`kohabitaciis~ dros (raki ar
icodnen, ra iqneba xval), aseve
ar Cadeben momavalSic, roca xelisuflebas eyoleba Zalian
Zlieri, mudmivad revoluciasa
nia, ar moindomebs, Tavidan aagizgizos radikalizmisa da
`aRorZinebuli
korufciis~
winaaRmdeg brZolis koconi,
romelic 2002 wlidan daanTo?
sxvaTa Soris, roca maSin koruf-
romlebic miSasa da mis profesional revolucionerTa gunds,
sul raRac, 1-2 weliwadSi, _ roca
ukmayofiloTa da imedgacruebulTa raodenoba sakmaris
raodenobas miaRwevs, _ marTla
* * *
meore mxriv, rogorc ar unda
dasruldes miSas es `Tavidan
dawyeba~, aris erTi fenomeni,
romelsac is verc daamarcxebs
da verc moatyuebs: esaa istoria
da misi kanonzomierebani. sinamdvileSi, is, rac saqarTveloSi
moxda 2003 wlis Semdeg, istoriis motyuebis mcdeloba iyo: rom
TiTqos ar yofila 20-25 wlis
winandeli sazareli marcxi, gamanadgurebeli da samarcxvinod
wagebuli omebi, erovnuli ideis
sruli kraxi da ase Semdeg.
miSas mTavari Zala is aRmoCnda, rom 2003 wels man udidesi
ostatobiT moaCvena xalxs,
TiTqos SegveZlo, migveRwia da
gvecxovra ise, viTom is saSineli
istoriuli kraxi arc momxdara.
Tumca, istoriam umalve iZia Suri
da mwared daamarcxa 2004 welsve.
sinamdvileSi miSa im dRes damarcxda, rodesac osebma qarTveli meomrebi ubrZolvelad ganaiaraRes, cxinvalSi CamoaTries da
samarcxvinod daaCoqes centralur moedanze mTeli msoflios Tvalwin. swored maSin daimsxvra iluziebi da ara 2008 wlis
12 agvistos. sxva yvelaferi ki,
mTeli am wlebis ganmavlobaSi,
lamazi sapnis buSti da ostaturi PR iyo: Sadrevnebidan _ iusticiis saxlebamde.
istoriam marTlac Zalian
mkacrad dagvsaja misi motyuebis
mcdelobisTvis, magram `riyis
trubebSi~ axalgazrdobasTan
Sexvedrisas miSam sakuTari `brendis~ Sesabamisad imoqmeda da
jiutad ganacxada, rom istorias
ar daemorCileba, anu mis jinaze
isev, Tundac meored an meased,
Tavidan daiwyebs yvelafers. radac ar unda daujdes TviTon an
sxvebs es mcdeloba.
miT umetes, rodesac xedavs,
rom axal xelisuflebas qveynis
ganviTarebis aranairi alternatiuli proeqti ar gaaCnia da iZulebulia, miSas mier danatovar
CarCoebSi imoqmedos rogorc
saSinao, aseve (gansakuTrebiT)
sagareo mimarTulebiT.
hoda, Tu asea, `miSas kurss~
miSaze ukeTesad es upatronod
darCenili, sawyalobeli mTavroba rogor gaatarebs? ra Tqma
unda, `miSas kursi~ isev miSam unda
gaataros! swored aseTi iqneba
xalxis
aRqma
da
veravin
moifiqrebs kontrarguments,
roca etyvian, rom, rasac ivaniSvilis narCenTa gundi akeTebs,
mxolod igive miSaa, oRond
`gauaresebuli da korumpirebuli miSa~.
faqtobrivad, uaxloes wlebSi, saakaSvili Tavis `alter-egos~
daupirispirdeba, rodesac istoriis kidev erTxel motyuebas
Seecdeba. verc axla moatyuebs,
rasakvirvelia, Tumca, sanam pirSi suli udgas, mudam ecdeba.
aseTia da ver Seicvleba!
xolo istoria Tavis mrisxanebas amjeradac ara mas, aramed
Cven dagvatexs Tavze. ukve meramdened (meramdened?!!!) Soreul
Tu axlo warsulSi.
saocari ilustraciaa WeSmaritebisa: istoria ki sjis, Tanac
sjis usastikesad, magram arasdros, aravis arafers aswavlis.
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moswavleaxalgazrdobis
sasaxleSi sabrZolo
masala aRmoaCines
moswavle-axalgazrdobis
sasaxleSi sabrZolo masala
aRmoaCines. rogorc ,,ji-eiCens” Sss sazogadoebriv
saqmeTa departamentSi ganucxades, savaraudodod,
sabrZolo masala ukve vadagasulia da momxdarTan
dakavSirebiT aRZrulia sisxlis samarTlis saqme.
,,moswavle-axalgazrdobis sasaxleSi erT-erT
oTaxSi sadac saremonto
samuSaoebi mimdinareobda
ipoves sabrZolo masala.
winaswari informaciiT, siZvelis gamo igi SeiZleba vargisi ar iyos. eqspertiza
daniSnulia. adgilze sagamoZiebo moqmedebebi ukve
dasrulebulia. saswavlo
process xeli ar SeSlia.
saqme aRZruli ssk 236-e muxliT”, _acxadebs Sss sazogadoebriv saqmeTa departamentSi.
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
jana javaxiSvili:
`sasurvelze rom imuSao, jer
unda warmoidgino, ra ginda~
`pasuxismgebloba
iseTi Temaa, rom
misi `ardadegebi~
da `SvebulebaSi
gaSveba~ ar
gamodis, is
gvWirdeba
sazogadoebis
uklebliv yvela
subieqtSi uwyvetad~
aleqsi nozaZe
giorgi
margvelaSvilis
administraciis
ufrosad, misi
yofili colisZma
iniSneba
zurabiSvilis,
rogorc
saprezidento kandidatis
ardaregistrireba, ramac
Seaviwrova proevropuli
kandidatebis
saarCevno
speqtri, gansakuTrebiT im
amomrCevlebisTvis, vinc
qalbaton
zurabiSvils
aZlevda xmas.
geniSnaT arasasurvel
faqtorebad?
saprezidento arCevnebi
arnaxulad mSvid
pozitiuri swored es aris,
rom arCevnebi eqscesebis,
gawev-gamowevisa Tu Cxubisa,
gnebavT, politikuri mizniT
sikvdiliT
spekulaciis
(rogorc rafaliancebis
SemTxvevaSi iyo) gareSe
viTarebaSi Catarda.
piradad TqvenTvis riT
gansxvavdeboda es
arCevnebi sxva
arCevebisgan. ra iyo
masSi pozitiuri da ra
Catarda. mokled rom vTqva
_ aracivilizebuli vnebaTaRelvisgan met-naklebad
Tavisufali, ufro Rirseuli
saarCevno situacia Camoyal-
`premieri~ fsiqolog
jana javaxiSvils esaubra:
Cven xSirad vsaubrobT,
xolme sazogadoebis
pasuxismgeblobaze _
sxvis, metwilad
gaurkveveli `jgufis~
pasuxismgeblobaze,
magram amjerad minda
vikiTxo, Tqveni azriT,
ramdenad
pasuxismgeblobiT
moekida qarTveli
amomrCeveli arCevnebs,
rodesac udidesi nawili
arCevnebze ar mivida?
ibda. Tumca, igives ver vityvi prezidentobis kandidatebis winasaarCevno kampaniebze, romelTa umravlesoba amomrCevelTa xmebis
mozidvas, ZiriTadad, sxva
kandidatTa diskreditaciiT
cdilobda.
pozitiuri, agreTve,
ar hqonda, mcire gamonaklisis garda. es Zalian didi monapovaria, im fonze, rom gvaxsovs gasul wlebSi _ gancda
imisa, rom arCevnebi ganwiruli iyo gayalbebisTvis. imedia, es konsensusi saqmis
obieqtur viTarebas asaxavs
da amdenad, Zalian mniS-
is aris, rom mosaxleobis umravlesobisa da saerTaSoriso damkvirveblebis
azri emTxveva imaSi, rom
arCevnebis gayalbebas adgili
vnelovani
pozitiuri
gamocdilebaa qveynisTvis,
sazogadoebisTvis. arasasurveli faqti winasaarCevno periodSi moxda _ salome
telekompania tv 3-is informaciiT, axladarCeuli
prezidentis, giorgi margvelaSvilis administraciis
ufrosad, misi yofili
colisZma iniSneba.
tv 3-Tan saubarSi giorgi
margvelaSvilis pressamsaxuris ufrosma Salva ramiSvilma ganacxada, rom oficialur gancxadebas sakuTari piradi cxovrebisa da
saqmianobis Sesaxeb laSa abaSiZe uaxloes momavalSi gaakeTebs.
axali ambebi
ar unda dagvaviwydes, rom
sabWoTa warsulidan movdivarT, sadac adamians ar hqonda sazogadoebriv-politikur cxovrebaSi monawileobis Sansi, da survilic, Sesabamisad, Camkvdari hqonda.
mosaxleobis garkveul nawilSi es inercia dRemde
cocxalia.
27 oqtombers didi
msjeloba iyo socialur
qselebSi imaze, ramdenad dabali
iyo
amJamindeli
arCevnebis dros sazogadoebis aqtivoba sxva aqamde
Catarebul arCevnebTan SedarebiT; marTlac iyo Tu
ara guSindeli aqtivoba
ufro dabali da a.S. mohyavdaT magaliTebi evropuli
qveynebisa, sadac dabalia
amomrCevelTa aqtivoba. mohyavdaT, agreTve, iseTi evropuli qveynebis magaliTebic,
sadac piriqiT _ Zalian maRalia aqtivoba (80%-mde).
saqme isaa, rom keTildReobaSi macxovrebeli saSualo
statistikuri evropelis
arCevnebze armisvla, unda
vivaraudoT, rom gansxvavebuli fenomenia gaxangrZlivebul krizisSi mcxovrebi saSualo statistikuri
qarTvelis armisvlisgan. am
erTi SexedviT identur
qcevebs sxvaobas gansxvavebuli motivacia aniWebs.
arCevnebze miusvleloba erTi romelime
konkretuli mizeziT ver aixsneba. aq motivTa da mizezTa
mTeli rigi SeiZleba ganvasxvaoT: erTi, rogorc zeviT
vTqvi, sabWoTa inercia, meore _ uimedoba da depresia,
Seqmnili imis gamo, rom sazogadoebis nawilis mier
mocemuli arCevnebi aRiqmeboda rogorc `arCevnebi
arCevanis gareSe~ (da aman
araerTxel gaiJRera so-
premieri
premieri
oTxSabaTi,3030oqtomberi-5
oqtomberi-5noemberi
noemberi2013
2013
#9#9
(009)
(009)oTxSabaTi,
cialur mediaSi: radio
`Tavisuflebis~ blogze,
liberalis blogze da a.S.),
mesame _ protesti (`pasiuri
sabotaJi~) imis gamo, rom sa-
surveli kandidati daregistrirebuli ar iyo (magaliTad, salome zurabiSvilis
amomrCevelTa
nawili),
meoTxe _ rwmena imisa, rom
margvelaSvili maRali procentiT pirvelive turSi
gava (rac araerTxel iyo
gaJRerebuli arCevnebamde
mediaSi ama Tu im politikosisa Tu politologis mier)
da sakuTari misvlis zedmetad miCneva (`isedac
gasulia~ logikiT), mexuTe _
sazRvargareT yofnis mizeziT garkveul SemTxvevebSi
saarCevno ubnis miuwvdomloba an dabali interesi
arCevnebis mimarT, meeqvse _
arsebuli kanonmdeblobis
pirobebSi saprezidento
arCevnebis CaTvla umniSvnelod da misTvis, ase vTqvaT, Tavis arSewuxeba da a.S.
alternativebi kidev ufro
bevria _ es ramdenime, rac
CamovTale,
socialur
qselebSi mimdinare diskusiebis procesSi gamovlinda.
Tumca, TavisTavad
monawileoba, an armonawileoba da armonawileobis motivi CemTvis SedarebiT nakleb mniSvnelovania, vidre is,
ra sazriss debs moqalaqe sakuTar monawileobaSi, Tavis
mier gakeTebul arCevanSi.
pasuxismgeblobiT gakeTebuli arCevani iseTi arCevania,
romelsac akeTeb ara mxolod ama Tu im politikuri
Zalis sasargeblod, romlis
faseulobebi da moqmedebis
modusic gakmayofilebs,
aramed qveyanaSi saerTo
politikuri
situaciis
gaTvaliswinebiT, demokratiis ganviTarebisTvis da Sesabamisad, mravalpartiulobisTvis adekvaturi garemos
Sesaqmnelad.
magram arCevnebi ar aris
mxolod arCevnebis dRe,
es aris Semdgomi
procesic...
geTanxmebiT, arCevnebisgan
CemTvis ganuyofelia winasaarCevno da arCevnebisSemdgomi dinamika. amomrCevelsa da arCeul xelisuflebas Soris arCevnebisSemdgo-
mi urTierTobis gzac pasuxismgeblobis Temaze gadis.
pasuxismgeblobiania damokidebuleba maSin, rodesac
amomrCeveli upirobod ar
endoba arCeul xelisufle-
bas, rodesac akontrolebs
mas da SeTanxmebuli kursidan gadaxvevis SemTxvevaSi
pasuxs sTxovs. pasuxismge-
blobiania arCeuli xelisufleba maSin, Tu is grZnobs
Tavs angariSvaldebulad
amomrCevlis winaSe, mis kritikas ara pirad wyenad Tu
Seuracxyofad, Tu xelis
SeSlad iRebs, aramed, saqmis
interesebidan gamomdinare,
daxmarebad da amgvarad,
amomrCevelTan TanamSromlobiT, cdilobs eleqtoratis ndobis gamarTlebas da Tavisi misiis ganxorcielebas. imis Tqma minda,
rom me ase mkveTrad ar gavmijnavdi pasuxismgeblobis
sakiTxebs winasaarCevno,
arCevnebisa da arCevnebisSemdgom politikur cxovrebaSi. pasuxismgebloba
iseTi Temaa, rom misi
`ardadegebi~ da `SvebulebaSi gaSveba~ ar gamodis, is
gvWirdeba sazogadoebis
uklebliv yvela subieqtSi
uwyvetad.
xSirad gvesmis, rom
gvaklia ganaTleba _
politikuri, zogadi,
profesionaluri.
rogoria tendencia da
vizrdebiT ki am
mimarTulebiT?
rasakvirvelia vizrdebiT,
ramdenad swrafad da `ra
asakSi varT~ axla _ es ukve
sxva sakiTxia. fsiqologiis
erT-erTi klasikosis, lourens kolbergis mixedviT,
adamianis zneobrivi ganviTareba sam fazad SeiZleba
aRiweros; TiToeuli faza,
Tavis mxriv, or-or qvesafex-
urs moicavs, esenia:
1. prekonvenciuri
faza, roca adamiani
iqceva kanonmorCilad
da emorCileba mis
garSemo arsebul
normebs an a) dasjis
SiSiT (magaliTad, usafrTxoebis Rvedis
gakeTeba jarimis SiSiT),
an b) waxalisebis surviliT (warmovidginoT,
vTqvaT, usafrTxoebis
Rvedis xmarebisTvis
prizi rom iyos gamocxadebuli da adamiani
mas am motiviT rom
iyenebdes). orive faza
adreul da mozardobamde bavSvobis asaks
axasiaTebs;
2. konvenciuri
faza, rodesac adamiani
iqceva a) im socialurkulturuli normebis
mixedviT, rac mis referentul wreSia gamefebuli, emorCileba maT
ukritikod da ar iRebs
sxva normebs (magaliTad, sxvadasxva axalgazrduli gaerTianebe-
bi, maT Soris e.w. `emoebi~, `goTebi~ da sxv.;
e.w. `qurduli samyaro~
da a.S.). es qvesafexuri
mozardobis asakis
Sesaferisia; b) konvenciuri fazis meore
qvesafexurze adamiani
iqceva kanonmorCilad
imitom, rom esmis kanonis mniSvneloba da mis
miRma arsebuli faseulobebi, imitom rom es
misi gacnobierebuli
arCevania (isev da isev
Rvedis magaliTi rom
moviyvanoT _ misi
xmareba im motiviT, rom
sxvas an sakuTar Tavs
ziani ar miayeno) _ es
ukve zrdasrulis modusia;
3. postkonvenciuri done, rodesac
adamiani kritikuli
azrovnebis wyalobiT: a)
amCnevs usamarTlobebs
socialur, kulturul,
tradiciul normebSi,
kanonmdeblobaSi, gaecleba im socialur
sinamdviles, romelic
ar moswons da midis
mis miRma, erTiandeba
TanamoazreebTan: aseTia,
magaliTad, faseulobebiT motivirebuli
migracia (vTqvaT, soflidan qalaqSi da a.S.),
amgvari adamiani SesaZloa, TviTon gaecalos
Tems; aseve, SesaZloa,
TviT Temma gariyos is
_ rogorc aluda qeTelaurs mouvida, da ver
vityodi, rom dRevandel dRes es Tema ar
aris aqtualuri qarTuli sinamdvilisTvis;
dabolos _ adamiani,
homo-cvlilebebis
ganmaxorcielebeli,
romelic ar eTanxmeba
mis sazogadoebaSi
arsebul usamarTlobebs
da muSaobs cvlilebebisTvis _ aseTi iyo,
magaliTad, CvenSi ilia
WavWavaZe.
sad varT Cven, rogorc
sazogadoeba?
sabWoTa dros, ueWvelad,
pirveli fazis pirvelive
etapze viyaviT represirebul-regresirebul-gaSeSebulebi. dasjis SiSi iyo adamianis qcevis maregulirebeli kompartiisa da `kagebes~
reJimis dros. avtoritarul
xelisuflebas aqvs SiSis instrumentalizaciis berketebi da amdenad, ZaluZs sazogadoebis stagnacia, es
uaxles istoriaSic gamoviareT.
xSirad,
TiTqos,
pirveli fazis meore etapsa
da mozardobis pirvel etaps
Soris vmoZraobT. am dReebSi
ara erTi da ori Cemi kolega
ixsenebda
gasul
arCevnebze winasaarCevnod
fulisa da sxva insentivebis
darigebis praqtikas _ es,
ueWvelad, pirveli fazis meore safexuria (dajildoebawaxalisebis motiviT moqmedeba).
rac Seexeba mozardobis fazaSi Cvens yofnas, aq
ara erTi da ori magaliTis
moyvana SeiZleba _ magaliTad, socialur qselebSi gansxvavebuli msoflmxedvelobis mqone kandidatebis momxreTa, rbilad rom vTqvaT,
cxare kamaTi, da axdilad
rom vTqvaT: gansxvavebuli
azrisa da faseulobebis
mqone adamianebis mier erTmaneTis lanZRva-gineba-devna
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17
da kidev bevri bevrad ufro
mZafri dapirispireba sazogadoebis sxvadasxva segmentebs/fragmentebs Soris.
d R e v a n d e l
arCevnebze xelisuflebam,
gasulisgan gansxvavebiT, arc
dasjis muqara CarTo da arc
winasaarCevnod fulisa Tu
sxva insentivebis gacema ganaxorciela _ rac udavod
win gadadgmuli nabijia. mosaxleobamac, ramdenadac
vici, saarCevno kanonis
dacviTa da pativiscemiT,
Rirseulad imoqmeda, rac
imis maCvenebelia, rom guSin
zrdasrulis modusSi viyaviT. imedia, es pozitiuri
gamocdileba dagvexmareba,
mdgradad gadavideT zrdasrulis modusSi. aRaraa dro,
Tu?..
da mainc, yvelaze
saintereso qarTveli
amomrCevlis,
saqarTvelos
mosaxleobis gancdebisa
da gadawyvetilebis
Sefasebaa. ra uTxra
sakuTari arCevaniT man
momavals?
arCevanis gakeTebisas ara
mgonia, rom momavals vugzavnideT gzavnils: Cemi azriT,
sazogadoebis dainteresebulma subieqtebma erTmaneTsa
da
gare
samyaros
gaucvales gzavnilebi. mTeli winasaarCevno periodis
manZilze politikosebs hqondaT Sansi, gaevrcelebinaT
gzavnilebi, arCevanis saSualebiT axla sazogadoebis
wevrebma misces gzavnili
politikosebs, erTmaneTsa da
gare samyaros. es gzavnilebi
CemTvis dRes ase iSifreba:
`Cven gvinda wesieri da humanuri prezidenti; Cven gvinda mmarTveli politikuri
Zalis
damabalansebeli
opozicia,
romelic
dagvazRvevs monopartiulobisgan; Cven gvinda ara aRmosavluri Tu prorusuli,
aramed prodasavluri da
proevropuli kursi~. imedia,
rom met-naklebad obieqturi
var am gzavnilebis wakiTxvaSi da CemTvis sasurvels realobad ar vasaReb. da Tu
vasaReb _ ase iyos: sasurvelze rom imuSao, jer unda
warmoidgino, ra ginda.
18 premieri
zaal anjafariZe
eqsperti:
`2013 wlis 27 oqtombris
arCevnebi gamorCeuli iyo
ramdenime faqtoriT. pirvelad bolo 22 wlis manZilze,
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
tikuri
konfiguracia.
`qarTuli ocneba~ flobs xelisuflebis yvela sadaves.
moxda `nacionaluri moZrao-
arCevnebis SedegiT evropas
aCvena, rom qveynis prodasavluri sagareo-politikuri
veqtori ar gadaixedeba~.
bis~ politikuri reanimacia
da misi, rogorc mTavari
vaxuSti menabde
uflebebis
adamianis
swavlebisa da monitoringis
centris
((EMC))
direqtori:
`ramdenime aspeqts gamovyofdi. pirvel rigSi, es aris
winasaarCevno
kampania,
romelic naklebad agresiuli iyo. subieqtebi naklebad
aqtiurebi iyvnen. es mosalodnelic gaxldaT, radgan es arCevnebi naklebad
principuli iyo. meore faqtori, realurad, kandidatebs Soris brZola meore
adgilisTvis mimdinareobda,
aqamde es iyo arCevnebi pirvel da meore kandidats
Soris, axla pirveli adgili
da kandidatebma Seqmnes. winasaarCevno kampania iyo absoluturad uRimRamo, realuri politikuri da socialuri mesijebis gareSe.
marTalia, qarTveli politikosebi da qarTuli sazogadoeba minimalurad iTvaliswinebs sakuTar Secdomebs,
magram swori analizis SemTxvevaSi vSiSob, `mSvidi 27 oqtomberi~ boboqari uaxlesi
momavlis sawindari ar
gaxdes~.
ba~, amas legitimaciis
datvirTva hqonda, romelic
aklda rogorc `nacionalur
moZraobas~, ise burjanaZis
sa Tu kandidats, visi damsaxurebac iyo `mSvidi 27 oqtomberi~.
rac Seexeba gansakuTrebiT
eka beselia
parlamentis wevri:
`mTavari am gamarjvebaSi
iyo is Tavisufleba da arCevanis uproblemod gamoxatvis SesaZlebloba, romelic Cven xalxs miveciT. es iyo
pirveli evropuli, Tavisufali arCevnebi, sadac yovelgvari Carevis gareSe iqna ar-
27 oqtomberi - `mSvidi arCevnebi~
arCeulma
prezidentma
CaamTavra konstituciiT
gaTvaliswinebuli vada da is
Seicvala arCevnebis gziT. am
arCevnebis Sedegad saqarTvelo pirvelad iRebs mniSvnelovnad uflebaSekvecil,
praqtikulad
simbolur
prezidents, romelic, wina
prezidentebisgan gansxvavebiT, ar gaxlavT profesionali politikosi. arCevnebi
Catarda gacilebiT samarTlianad, demokratiulad da mSvid garemoSi, vidre yvela wina arCevnebi,
Tumca, ra Tqma unda, iyo
darRvevebic. dagvamaxsovrda
amomrCevelze zemoqmedebis
unikaluri meTodi, rodesac
premier-ministrma maT ganucxada, rom meore turis
SemTxvevaSi saxelisuflebo
kandidati masSi monawileobas aRar miiRebda. arCevnebis Sedegad qveyanaSi miviReT
erTgvarad axali poli-
opoziciuri Zalis, legitimacia. paralelurad, moxda
nino burjanaZis gaformeba,
rogorc gavleniT mesame
politikuri lideris, rac
misTvis am etapze miRwevaa.
vilniusis
samitis
win
saqarTvelom saprezidento
garkveuli iyo da meore adgilisTvis upirispirdebodnen kandidatebi erTmaneTs.
mniSvnelovani
gaxldaT,
opoziciuri kandidatebidan
vin moxvdeboda meore turSi. amis gareSec principuli
iyo meore nomrad `gaforme-
erTobas. mesame faqtori iyo
saarCevno administraciisadmi
damokidebuleba.
saarCevno administraciis
xelmZRvaneli, ceskos Tavmjdomare iyo konsensusis Sedegad daniSnuli da samoqalaqo seqtoris mier mxardaWerili adamiani. es faqtori ganapirobebda ndobas
arCevnebisadmi, rac dadasturda kidec kandidatebis
gancxadebiT~.
goCa mircxulava
gener`ji-eiC-enis~
aluri direqtori:
`CemTvis umTavresi iyo is
saarCevno garemo, romelSic
saprezidento arCevnebi gaimarTa da am mxriv namdvilad
minda mivuloco qarTul sazogadoebas da rogorc rigiTma moqalaqem madloba
vuTxra yvela uwyebas, struqturasa
Tu
calkeul
pirovnebas, politikur Zala-
SemaSfoTebel monacemebs
amomrCevlebis indiferentizmis Sesaxeb, es kidev erTxel adasturebs, rom Cveni
moqalaqeobrivi pasuxismgebloba minimaluria. ratomRac gvirCevnia kataklizmebis Tanamonawileebi viyoT, vidre im mSvidobiani procesebisa, romelmac Cveni da qveynis momavali unda gansazRvros. Tumca es `suraTi~
Tavad politikurma Zalebma
Ceuli prezidenti. mjeroda
am gamarjvebis. velodi, rom
aqtiuroba naklebi iqneboda,
es politikuri procesis
logikaa. magram SarSan iyo
gadarCenis brZola, 27 oqtombers ki _ arCevnebze mosvlis politikuri xedva.
mjera daiwyeba simSvidis
dro. daiwyeba sistemebis
formireba da procesebi
ufro swrafad warimarTeba.
rodesac nacionalebi kmay-
premieri
#9 (009) oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013
ofilebas gamoTqvamen, amiT
aRiareben, rom maT realurad 40% ar miuRiaT saparlamento arCevnebze da gaayalbes. an erT welSi 20%-iT
daeca maTi reitingi. es uxariaT... analizisTvis bevri
ram aris saintereso, mTavari
ki mainc isaa, rom Tavisufal
arCevnebSi moxda prezidentis
arCeva~.
givi xaWapuriZe
sakonsultacio
PR
jgufis direqtori
direqtori:
`27 oqtombers prezidentis arCevnebis gziT Secvla
iyo gansakuTrebuli movlena qarTuli saxelmwifos is-
toriaSi.
garda amisa, arCevnebi gamoirCeoda kandidatebis simravliT da dagegmili PR-kampaniis warmoebiT. radikalurad gansxvavebuli iyo xelisuflebis kampania, rac
araerTgvarovnad aRiqva sazogadoebam. mniSvnelovania
aRiniSnos, rom yvelaze maRalbiujetiani kampania awarmoa `demokratiuli moZraobis~ saprezidento kandidatma, nino burjanaZem da wina
welTan SedarebiT auditis
samsaxuri ar atarebda sadamsjelo RonisZiebebs opoziciuri partiebis mimarT.
arCevnebis procesi mimdinareobda mSvid garemoSi,
rac ucxoeli damkvirveblebis mxridan gakvirvebas
iwvevda. erT-erTi maTgani
gakvirvebas ver malavda,
saarCevno ubnebTan policiis mobilizacia ar SeiniSneboda. sayuradReboa, rom isini adrec akvirdebodnen
arCevnebs, Tumca miniSnebiTac
ki ar ambobdnen amis Sesaxeb.
yvelaze damafiqrebeli
aris amomrCevelTa dabali
aqtivoba 27 oqtombris
saprezidento arCevnebze.
monawileobda Tu ara wina
arCevnebSi amomrCevelTa is
raodenoba, rasac cesko
gveubneboda, es calke
msjelobis sagania, magram
oficialuri monacemebiT,
amomrCevelTa 46% mivida am
arCevnebze, rac 2 ramiT SeiZleba iyos gamowveuli.
pirveli _ amomrCevelTaTvis
arCevnebi ar warmoadgens
mniSvnelovan movlenas da
xelisuflebas aqvs samuSao
maTi TviTSegnebis amaRlebis
kuTxiT, da meore _ didi
gaurkvevloba gvaqvs amomrCevelTa siebSi da zogadad,
mosaxleobis aRweraSi, rasac
gamiznulad akeTebda wina
xelisufleba da dRes opoziciaSi myofi verafers ambobs.
realuri demografiuli
mdgomareoba radikalurad
sxva da sakmaod sagangaSo
SeiZleba aRmoCndes~.
nacemebiT daviT baqraZem 21%
miiRo. `Cven varT pasuxismgeblobis mqone mTavari opoziciuri Zala~, _ ganacxada
daviT baqraZem arCevnebis
Semdeg gamarTul sagangebo
brifingze da giorgi margve-
obis gamo, rac maTi politikuri warsuliTaa ganpirobebuli. swored am faqtorma ganapiroba es samarcxvino, absoluturad miuRebeli Sedegi, vgulisxmob
nacebis 22%-s. amave dros
eliso kilaZe
`qronika+~-is mTavari
redaqtori:
`2013 wlis 27 oqtombers
saqarTveloSi mixeil saakaSvilis 10-wliani saprezidento mmarTveloba arCevnebis
gziT dasrulda. arCevnebis
oficialuri Sedegebi jer
kidev ar gamoqveynebula, magram ukve cxadia, rom prezidentis posti gasuli wlis
saparlamento arCevnebSi gamarjvebuli koaliciis kandidatma, giorgi margvelaSvilma moipova. arCevnebi mSvid garemoSi, eqscesebisa da
zedmeti xmauris gareSe
Catarda. bolo ori aTeuli
wlis saqarTveloSi pirvelad
arCevnebze ar Canda policiis `TviTSemoqmedeba~ da ubnebze arsad gamoCenila specdaniSnulebis razmi. amomrCevelze ar xdeboda zewola da TviT yvelaze
radikaluri politikuri
Zalebis warmomadgenlebi
arCevnebis Sedegebs eTanxme-
laSvils gamarjveba miuloca. wesiT, es Jesti namdvilad
evropuli demokratiis nawilia da unda gixarodes
kidec, roca Sens qveyanaSi
evropuli tipis politikuri
etiketi mkvidrdeba, magram
TiToeul Cvengans kargad
axsovs istoriis bolo cxra
weli da qveyanaSi `nacionaluri moZraobis~ mier Cadenili araerTi sastiki danaSauli. amitom axal realobasTan Segueba cota Znelia.
`koabitacia dasruldeba 27
oqtombers~, _ dagvpirda
giorgi
margvelaSvili
arCevnebis win. `nacionaluri
moZraobis `gadarCena qarTuli demokratiis mTavari
amocanaa~, _ es istoriuli
sityvebi parlamentis Tavmjdomares daviT usufaSvils
ekuTvnis. 27 oqtombris
arCevnebma
`qarTuli
demokratiis mTavari amocana~ namdvilad Seasrula. koabitaciis dasrulebisa ra
mogaxsenoT _ 29 oqtomberia
da me piradad, jer verafers
vatyob. metic, premier-ministrma baqraZis 20% beWdur
medias
gadaabrala,
_
mTavrobas ase xSirad rom
akritikebdiT, es imis braliao. SevxvdebiT momdevno
arCevnebze, _ dagvibara wasvlis win giga bokeriam. SevxvdebiT momdevno arCevnebze,
_ giga bokerias daemowma mixeil saakaSvili. momdevno
arCevnebi 2014 wels adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis
arCevnebia. momaval Sexvedramde!!!~
naTelia, rom es politika
didxans ver gagrZeldeba da
`Sua gakrefvis~ deklarirebuli kursi ar aris perspeqtiuli saqarTveloSi. unda
vTqva, rom Cven, `saqarTvelos
patriotTa aliansi~, yvelafers gavakeTebT imisTvis,
rom koabitaciis mavnebluri
kursi damTavrdes da qveynis
saTaveSi patriotuli Zalebi movidnen~.
bian. magram... 2012 wlis 1-li
oqtombris arCevnebisgan gansxvavebiT, amomrCevelTa aqtiuroba iyo Zalian dabali.
bolo monacemebiT, saprezidento arCevnebSi monawileoba registrirebul amomrCevelTa mxolod 46%-ma
miiRo. da rom ara `nacmoZraobis~ parlamentis mier
sakuTar Tavze morgebuli
kanoni, am monacemebiT
saprezidento arCevnebi CaSlilad gamocxaddeboda.
prezidentis inauguracia 17
noembers unda gaimarTos da
am
dRes
saakaSvilis
mmarTvelobis dasasruli
oficialurad gaformdeba.
qveyanaSi
`nacionaluri
moZraoba~ meore politikur
Zalad
gamocxadda,
am
droisTvis arsebuli mo-
soso manjaviZe
patri`saqarTvelos
otTa aliansis~ generaluri mdivani:
`koabitaciis gaumarTlebelma
politikam
da
gaurkvevlobam saSinao da
sagareo mimarTulebiT mosaxleobaSi apaTia gamoiwvia.
Sedegi saxezea. esaa Zalian
dabali aqtivoba, romelic am
SemTxvevaSi protestis pasiuri formaa. amave dros,
gasagebia isic, rom amomrCevlis pasiuroba ganpirobebulia arCevanis ararsebobiT.
`ocnebisa~ da nacionalebis
koabitaciiT ukmayofilo
amomrCevelma alternativad
ar miiCnia sxva politikuri
figurebi maTi arapopular-
maia fircxalava
69-e saolqo saarCevno
komisiis Tavmjdomare:
`piradad CemTvis umTavresi
iyo
saerTaSoriso
damkvirveblebis Zalian maRali Sefaseba. arCevnebma ar-
naxulad mSvid viTarebaSi
Caiara.
am SemTxvevaSi mniSvnelovani iyo ara mxolod is, rom
saarCevno administracia
yvela doneze momzadebuli
iyo arCevnebis Casatareblad,
aramed pirvel rigSi sazogadoebrivi ganwyoba. Cven, faqtobrivad, ar gvqonia SemTxveva, rodesac samarTaldamcavebis CarTva gaxdeboda
saWiro calkeuli daZabulobis ganmuxtvisTvis. minimaluri iyo politikuri
Zalebis warmomadgenelTa
agresia erTmaneTisa da
saarCevno administraciis
mimarT.
umTavresi ki, albaT, isaa,
rom TiToeuli amomrCeveli
Tavisufali iyo sakuTar
arCevanSi~.
daviT kirkitaZe
politikosi:
`madloba yvela amomrCevels. gansakuTrebiT madlobas vuxdi `nacionaluri
moZraobis~ amomrCevlebs,
romlebic, didi wnexis miuxedavad, mividnen saarCevno
ubnebze da maTTvis sasurvel kandidats dauWires mxari.
droTa ganmavlobaSi Cven
vnaxavT, rom `nacionaluri
moZraobis~ mier damkvidrebuli
civilizebuli
Tanacxovrebis wesebi raoden
mniSvnelovani da sasargeblo
aRmoCndeba qarTuli politikuri
cxovrebisTvis.
Zalian sasiamovno precedenti Seqmna daviT baqraZem,
rodesac gamarjvebuls miuloca. SeiZleba dRes cota
adamians axsovs, magram daaxloebiT igive Jesti gakeTda
2012 wlis 1-el oqtombersac.
es niSnavs, rom `nacionaluri
moZraoba~ namdvilad aris
dasavluri tipis partia.
Cven ara mxolod vdeklarirebT Cveni miswrafebebis
Sesaxeb, aramed viqceviT am
faseulobebis Sesabamisad.
ra Tqma unda, veswrafiT
imas, rom partia ufro ganviTardes, vakeTebT saTanado
analizs warsulTan dakavSirebiT.
kidev erTxel madlobas
vuxdi amomrCevlebs da gasak-
uTarebiT Cvens mxardamWerebs _ vinc 27 oqtombersac
daadastura sakuTari pozicia. minda vuTxra, rom Cven
maT imedebs ar gavuwbilebT~.
19
vano pavliaSvili
gazeT `qarTuli sityvis~ mT. redaqtoris
moadgile:
`Cemi 20-wliani Jurnalisturi karieris ganmavlobaSi
araerTi arCevnebis TviTmxilveli var. maxsovs, 1998
wels, TviTmmarTvelobis
arCevnebis dros e.w. lagodexis arCevnebSi rogori
cema-tyepa iyo. sxva saarCevno
incidentebis gaxsenebac SemiZlia. sxvaTa Soris, SarSan,
pirvel
oqtombers
im
saarCevno ubanSi, sadac xmas
vaZlev, imdeni xalxi iyo
dilidan mobilizebuli, am-
deni adamiani agvistos omis
dros rom gamosuliyo, albaT, teritoriebs ar davkargavdiT... wels ra xdeboda?
ra da, saarCevno ubanze xmis
misacemad misuls uCveulo
simyudrove damxvda _ arsad
iyvnen diddavTriani qalebi
da `nacionalebis~ megobari
kunTmagari kacebi. policia
saarCevno ubnidan 500-600 metris daSorebiT idga da usaqmurobisgan ubnis biWebTan
musaifobda... mokled, imis
Tqma minda, rom 27 oqtombris
arCevnebi saqarTvelos uaxles istoriaSi Seva, rogorc
yvelaze mSvidi da zewolisgan Tavisufali arCevnebi. es
ki, WeSmariti demokratiisken
gadadgmuli kidev erTi
nabijia. cxadia, idealuri,
anu dasavluri demokratiisgan jer bevri ram gvaSorebs,
magram demokratiis anbanis
swavla odesme xom unda daviwyoT?! mgonia, rom gayalbebac ar yofila, anu is faqti,
rom `nacionali~ daviT
baqraZe meore adgilze gavida, erTgvarad kanonzomieria _ xalxi brZenia da am
arCevaniT okupant ruseTTan
asocirebul politikur subieqtebs saboloo ganaCeni
gamoutana! yovel SemTxvevaSi, aseTia Cemi subieqturi
azri!~
20 premieri
premieri
kviridan kviramde
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 no
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
ZiriTadi tendencia
sociologia, rogorc anekd
zurab RoRoberiZe
s
aqarTvelo
bevri ramiTaa
unikaluri.
`rac magrebi
varT,
qarTvelebi
varT~. ramdeni
xania, vamtkicebT, rom
msoflio stereotipTa,
maT Soris avtoritetTa
ngreva SegviZlia. erTerTi maTgani, udavod,
didi amerikeli eris
keTilSobili
sakacobrio novacia sociologiaa. es
fenomeni swored
amerikelebma Seqmnes.
gansakuTrebiT misi is
segmenti, romelic
saarCevno saqmeebs, maT
Soris eleqtoralur
gamokiTxvebsa da `eqsitpolebs~ exeba.
bolo ori arCevnebisas komikuri situacia Seiqmna:
saqarTveloSi ramdenime
Zalze avtoritetuli saerTaSoriso(!) organizacia muSaobs,
romelTa moRvaweobis mniSvnelovani
mimarTuleba
swored sociologiaa: maT
Soris NDI da IRI. xazgasmiT unda
iTqvas, rom isini mxolod
formalurad
arian
amerikulni. sinamdvileSi ki
didi xania, msoflio avtoriteti moipoves da dasavluri
civilizaciis mniSvnelovan instrumentebs warmoadgenen axalgazrda demokratiaTa ganviTarebis TvalsazrisiT. bunebrivia, saxels Tvalis CiniviT
ufrTxildebian da namdvilad
usasrulo sibriyvea CvenSi
gavrcelebuli warmodgena,
TiTqos an erTi an meore
romelime politikuri jgufis
interesebSi SeiZleba moqmedebdes. an Tundac amerikis
specifikuri `gavlenis agentebi~ iyvnen. ase mouxeSavad da
`najaxiseburad~ amerikuli
istebliSmenti ar moqmedebs.
maT bevrad ufro daxvewili
da rafinirebuli meTodebi
aqvT. amitom, rogorc NDI,
aseve IRI arasdros arian angaJirebulni.
magram
`
bolo qarTuli
arCevnebis dros
saocari (erT SexedviT
saocari) ram moxda:
kviridan kviramde
`
gamoaqveynes.
aseTi distancireba ar SeiZleba SemTxveviTi iyos.
rogorc Cans, daiRalnen da
mobezrdaT – igrZnes, rom
saqarTvelo da misi absurduli sociologia ar Rirs Seuryvneli saxelis gatexad. anu,
sabolood darwmundnen, rom
araviTari `sociologia~ am
qveyanaSi ar SeiZleba arsebobdes: saqarTvelo unikaluria,
radgan sociologia ar muSaobs
da droze unda gadaixvewon
aqedan, Tu ar undaT, sabolood moiWran Tavi.
27 oqtombris saprezidento arCevnebma gamokiTxvebi da
sociologia marTlac aqcia
yvelaze mokle anekdotad:
uklebliv
yvela
sociologiuri samsaxuri, maT
Soris NDI, amtkicebda, rom
margvelaSvili `cotaTi, cotaTi~ 50%-s miiRebda, ese igi
an gadalaxavda bariers, an ara.
umravlesoba 48-49 procents
uwerda, sxvebi (maT Soris
Zalze avtoritetuli samsaxurebi) 40%-sac ki ar
akuTvnebdnen.
`
`
maS, saidan es 62
procenti?
saidan da `iqidan~, rom
uSualod arCevnebis win
saarCevno procesSi erTveba
normaluri sazogadoebebisTvis uCveulo faqtorebi,
romelTa ganWvreta da analizi SeuZlebelia. SarSandeli
saparlamento arCevnebis win
es iyo bedukaZis `cocxi~,
xolo am bolo arCevnebamde
– premier-ministris gancxadeba meore turis Sesaxeb.
bevri `azizi inteleqtuali~ aRSfoTda: `es ra gancxadeba gaakeTa, amiT xom xalxi
gaaRizianao~. saerTod, inteligentebs sCveviaT sakuTari ganwyobisa da Rirebulebebis sxvebze eqstrapolire-
ba. arada, ivaniSvilis muqara:
`Tu margvelaSvili pirvelive
turSi ar gaimarjvebs, icodeT,
meore turSi monawileobas ar
miiRebs~ da/anu (igulisxmeboda) qveyanaSi dapirispirebaqaosi daiwyebao, Zalian zustad gaTvlili da Wkvianuri
svla aRmoCnda.
Zneli saTqmelia, TviTon
moifiqra, Tu vinme specialistma urCia (albaT, ufro meorea), magram zustad aTianSi
rom gaartya Cveni xalxis
fsiqologiis gaTvaliswinebiT
– utyuari faqtia. darwmunebiT SeiZleba, iTqvas:
`
rom ara es
gancxadeba,
margvelaSvili zustad
50%-s miaxloebul
Sedegs miiRebda, anu
rasac sociologia
uwinaswarmetyvelebda.
SeiZleba meti mieRo,
SeiZleba naklebi,
magram mainc sadRac
`
50%-is midamoebSi.
ivaniSvilis
demarSma
`meryevi amomrCeveli~ daaSina, `pasiurebi~ saarCevno yuTTan moiyvana (winaaRmdeg
SemTxvevaSi aqtivoba 40 procentic ar iqneboda), anu
`
xalxma ara imdenad
margvelaSvilis
sasargeblod,
ramdenadac
gaurkvevlobis, qaosisa
da SesaZlo
samoqalaqo omis
`
winaaRmdeg misca xma!
margvelaSvils rom Tundac
52% mieRo, es yovelive Zalian
cudad damTavrdeboda. axla
ramdenic ar unda ilaparakos
luis navarom saparlamento
arCevnebis win gamoSveril
`cocxze~, an `gaurkvevlobisadmi SiSis sindromze~, faqtia, mainc aravin daujerebs,
amitom NDI-mac da IRI-mac,
sjobs, droze gaaswron aqedan,
sanam aseTive `cocxiT~ ukve
sxva qveynebSi daxvdebodnen,
sadac politikosebi amgvar
meTodebs ver iyeneben, raki
sazogadoeba bevrad naklebad
manipulirebadia.
aseTi socio-fsiqologiis
erSi sociologiuri samsaxurebis muSaobasa da gamokiTxvebs azri ara aqvs. mainc Tavs-
lafi daesxmeba
kosebi raime
moifiqreben
arCevnebis win.
* *
Zalian mniSv
gia daviT baqra
ili. amaze did
wasvlamde, ver
20% imas niSnav
naluri moZrao
vardnaZe-xazar
SiriviT~ da sw
eqsprezidenti
daemsgavseba w
sinamdvileSi `n
zani, rasakvirv
meore adgili i
isic komiku
vikvirvebT, ro
SesaZloa, saerT
daT. Tundac ma
meore turSi m
uaris Tqmis fo
erTia, prezide
es aravin daane
anaSi `deda Svi
da~.
saocrebaa, m
tia: qveyanaSi p
bdeba seriozu
ara iseTi
rogoric miSas
scenaze gamosv
namdvili, seri
gariSgasawevi.
Tumca
mniSvnelo
roml
xelisufl
mT
politiku
a
amomrCevli
46%!
saqarTvel
dafiqsi
xazs vusvam:
bula, Torem
bolo 20-25 wl
Si am qveyanam im
ba gadaitana, mo
nawils karga xa
yvelaferze xel
li. Tumca, pol
(ese igi yvela d
fleba da misi
la opozicia) d
iyo am cifris g
om igonebdnen a
aqtivobis gasab
ar gamovida d
Sedegic dadga:
burjanaZis muxruWi; m
kolmeurneobis
ZiriTadi tendencia
kviridan kviramde
winasaarCevno
gamokiTxvebi da
kvlevebi mxolod
erTma maTganma:
`erovnuldemokratiulma
institutma~ Caatara,
xolo `respublikurma
institutma~ uari Tqva.
ar aris gamoricxuli,
sinamdvileSi kvlevebi
tardeboda, Tumca
`respublikelebma~ ar
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
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kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
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kviridan kviramde kviridan kviramde
ZiriTadi tendencia
doti; meore adgilis mistika;
`
`
aT, Tu politiZlier svlas
uSualod
* *
nelovani SedeaZis meore adgd saCuqars miSa,
r miiRebda: es
vs, rom `naciooba~ ar gaqra SeraZis `moqkavwored amitom,
saakaSvilic ar
winamorbedebs.
nacionalTa~ mivelia, swored
iyo.
uria da nu gaom gamarjveba
Tod ar ndomoargvelaSvilis
monawileobaze
ormiT, raki sul
entobas baqraZebebda da qveyils ar aiyvan-
magram xom faqpirvelad yaliuli opozicia.
takimasxara,
s hyavda biZinas
vlamde, aramed
iozuli da an-
`
yvelaze
ovani Sedegi,
lis aRiareba
araTu axal
lebas, aramed
TlianobaSi,
ur klass ar
awyobs, mainc
is aqtivobaa:
!!! aseTi ram
loSi jer ar
irebula.
`
ar dafiqsireki momxdara.
lis ganmavlobamdeni ubedureosaxleobis did
ania, yvelaze da
li aqvs Caqneulitikuri klasi
drois xelisuTanamdevi yvedainteresebuli
gazrdiT, amitaTasgvar xriks
berad. amjerad
da seriozuli
margvelaSvilma ki
miiRo 62%, magram
46%-idan, rac
seriozulad urtyams
xelisuflebis
legitimurobas. ufro
metic, mTeli
saxelmwifos
`
legitimurobasac ki.
`amerikaSic xom xdeba
xolmeo~ – amerika da evropa
didi xnis win Semdgari saxelmwifoebi arian, saqarTveloSi
ki legitimurobisTvis aseTi
`wyalSeyeneba~ SeiZleba damRupveli aRmoCndes. kidev
erTi qarTuli paradoqsia:
roca SevardnaZisa da saakaSvilis dros `yridnen~, amiT
legitimurobis safuZvels
amagrebdnen. axla ar Cayares
da Sedegad
`
miviReT
xelisufleba,
romelic mosaxleobis
naxevars ki ara,
mesamedsac ar
`
aurCevia.
es konkretulad biZinasa
da giorgis an miSas problema
ar aris – mTeli qarTuli
`politokratiis~ danaSaulia.
amitomac arian erTianad
gasusulni da krints ar
Zraven margvelaSvilis naklebad legitimurobaze, raki
ician, es argumenti maTac
daartyams.
`
* * *
nino burjanaZis
mesame adgili, misi
ambiciis
gaTvaliswinebiT,
politikur fiaskod
SeiZleba CaiTvalos.
marcxis mTavari mizezi
ki sakuTar
gaubedaobaSi unda
eZios: man ver
SesTavaza realuri
alternativa swored
im 54%-s, romelic
daiRala 25-wliani
erTferovnebiT da
politikosebisgan
raRac axals
`
eloda.
burjanaZem ki, maqsimumi, rac
SeZlo, miSas ritorikis Ser-
bilebaa ruseTis mimarT. magram
giorgi margvelaSvilisgan gansxvavebuli am mimarTulebiTac
araferi uTqvams: `saWesTan xom
mjdarxarT? rTul situaciaSi
rom aRmoCndebiT, unda daamuxruWoT da manevrireba daiwyoTo~, – ganacxada rusuli
telekompaniisTvis micemul interviuSi. arada, mxolod morigi `manevrebisTvis~ misi potenciuri amomrCeveli (vinc moskovis mimarT kapitulaciisTvis
mudam mzadaa) arCevnebze ar mividoda da arc mivida.
miSa ki ris miSa iqneboda,
efeqturad ar gamosuliyo
dasaliers: ronald reiganis
biusti tyuilad rodi aCvenes
msxvili planiT ukanaskneli
mimarTvisas. TiTqmis sityvasityviT gaimeora amerikis me-40
prezidentis teqsti: `didi madloba, Zvirfaso Tanamemamuleno, raki momeciT saSualeba,
orgzis memsaxura TqvenTvis
prezidentis rangSi~.
oRond, ronald reigani,
amas rom ambobda, ukve parkinsonis sindromiT iyo daavadebuli da col-Svils
Zlivs cnobda. saakaSvils ki
msgavsi araferi etyoba. bevr
`wyalTan~ da demagogiasTan
erTad moswrebuli mesijic
ipova: `me ar davRlilvar, dasvenebas ar vsaWiroeb, magram
Tqven daiRaleT da droa, Cemgan daisvenoTo~. Tumca
saeWvoa, didxans moasvenos
dasvenebis msurveli: es `spiCi~ samudamod wamsvlelis mimarTvas namdvilad ar hgavda.
rad Rirs Tundac demagogiuri
pasaJi: `radikalurad ki viqceodi, magram Secdoma is iyo,
rom mtkivneuli reformebis
dros adamianebs ar vuxsnidi
maT saWiroebaso~. viTom ar
icis da viTom mTeli prezidentoba im Tezisis aRiarebaSi
ar gaatara, rom, roca saqme
adamianis interesebsa da misTvis Cveuli cxovrebis wesis
ngrevas exeba (ris gareSec
reformebi warmoudgenelia),
maSin ramdenic da ramdenjerac ar unda auxsna, mainc ver
miimxrob. ubralod imitom,
rom stkiva adamians, umuSevari
rCeba, quCaSi iyreba da ra
rogor unda auxsna?
viTom ar icis, ramdenad
demagogiaa?! rogor ar icis,
yvelaferi icis, magram es
morigi populisturi `egzersisia~, romelic yvelaze zustad da yvelaze metad
metyvelebs, rom sinamdvileSi Sors arsad mifrinavs. aSkarad apirebs dabrunebas da 9
wlis ganmavlobaSi dagrovili
resursis gamoyenebas.
da imave `spiCSi~:
Sinagan saqmeTa
saministros
maRalCinosnebs
zedmetad
vendobodio. ise, Cvens
prezidentze xSirad
ambobdnen,
`politikuri
cxoveliao~ da
marTlac, ar SeiZleba,
ar icodes: es fraza
aucileblad iqneba
aRqmuli, rogorc
dartyma vano
merabiSvilze!
`
aki Tavad ambobda xolme
xSirad: `qardava vin aris, ar
vicio~. anu aravis ekontaqteboda, vanos garda. da Tu asea, es
gancxadeba ras niSnavs? ras da
imas, rac vanom mxolod sakuTar `genialobas~ unda daabralos. an Tavi imiT daimSvidos,
rom saakaSvili mas ki ar gulisxmobda, aramed viRac sxvas.
saprezidento arCevnebis
Semdeg erTaderTi intriga
axali premieris vinaobaa.
ivaniSvilis gundis wevrebi
cnobil `amocnobanas~ TamaSoben: viTom ician saxeli,
Tumca
`kolmeurneobis
Tavmjdomarisa~ ar iyos,
droze adre ar undaT gaamxilon. sinamdvileSi ki araferic ar ician.
`momavali premieri CvenTan
erTad zeimobda margvelaSvilis gamarjvebaso~, – gaabundovana daTo usufaSvilma. bevrma ise gaigo, rom yvela ministri `ocnebis~ ofisTan miiWra,
magram iq bevri sxvac rom iyo?
`
premieris vinaoba
yvelaze bevrs da ukeT
ityvis imis Sesaxeb, Tu
ras apirebs
sinamdvileSi(!) biZina
ivaniSvili gadadgomisa
da politikidan
wasvlis Semdeg. bevrad
metsac ki, vidre
prezidentis figura.
im gansxvavebiT, rom
xalxis CarTva am
procesSi namdvilad
ar dasWirdeba da
aRarc saarCevno
teqnologiebiT
`
Seiwuxebs Tavs.
miSa da roni; biZinas
s Tavmjdomare
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde
ZiriTadi tendencia
kviridan kviramde
kviridan kviramde kviridan kviramde
22 premieri
nika imnaiSvili
`Êàêàÿ ñóêà ðàçáóäèëà
ëåíèíà, êîìó ìåøàëî, ÷òî
ðåá¸íîê ñïèò?~
n. korJavini
Sinagan saqmeTa
eqsministrma vano
merabiSvilma erT-erT
sasamarTlo sxdomaze
Zalian saintereso da
niSandoblivi ram Tqva,
Semdeg ki teqstad
gaaforma da
gamoaqveyna:
`saqarTveloSi iwyeba
uRimRamo xana...~ aq
sakvanZo termini da
vanos mentalobis
gasaRebi cneba
`uRimRamobaa~. swored
es mentaloba akavSirebs
mas miSasTan da
`vardebis revoluciis~
Sedegad qveynis saTaveSi
aRmoCenil im
axalgazrdul gundTan,
romelic sakuTar
simarTleSi uryevad
darwmunebuli ki iyo,
magram, erTi rusuli
gamonaTqvamis
Sesabamisad, `áûëè
ñòðàøíî äàëåêè îò
ñâîåãî íàðîäà~.
gaxsovT, gaupatiurebis
morigi kadrebis Sedegad,
xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma `samarTlebrivi da
politikuri pasuxismgeblobis gamijvnis~ aucileblobaze daiwyes saubari, rac elementaruli `gulubryvilobaa~, radgan, rodesac saqme
politikosebs, miT umetes
xelisufalT exeba, amgvari
gamijvna sinamdvileSi ar
arsebobs da arc odesme arsebula kacobriobis istoriaSi, rac ar unda ilaparakon
`politkoreqtorebma~.
Tumca, aq ufro metad
sagulisxmo sxva ramaa: jer
kidev bolo skandalamde da
miT umetes, am ambis Semdeg,
uiSviaTesi
gamonaklisi
rodia adamiani, vinc TvalebanTebuli getyvis: `baTumis
caTambjeni unda daingres,
radgan is `cocxebiT gaupatiurebis~ simboloao!~. es
adamiani veRar amCnevs, `ar
xedavs~, ukve veRar gaagebineb
da SeiZleba saSineli agresiac gamoiwvio, Tu mianiSneb,
rom is, vinc `cocxiT aupatiurebda~, dRes `marTali kacia~ da quCaSi amayad Tavaweuli dadis.
am
donis
fanatizmi,
rogoric dRes `antimiSistebs~ axasiaTebT, mxolod
`antizviadistebs~ axasiaTebdaT 1991 wlis Semodgomaze.
da es ar SeiZleba iyos vinmes
an raimes brali, garda TviT
xelisuflebisa!!!
wina prezidents, eduard
SevardnaZes, is upiratesoba
hqonda rogorc zviad gamsaxurdias, aseve miSa saakaSvilis
mimarT, rom SesaniSnavad icnobda Tavisi xalxis fsiqo-
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
saqarTvelo miSas Semdeg:
visTvis _ `uRimRamoba~,
visTvis _ `mSvidoba~
logias. amdenad, 30-wliani
mmarTvelobis dasaliers, misdami damokidebuleba `gulgrili zizRis~ farglebs ar
gascilebia da amitomac zis
axla mSvidad krwanisSi.
mmarTvelobis
xangrZlivobas am diskursSi mniSvneloba ara aqvs: miSa 9 weli
marTavda qveyanas, prezidenti gamsaxurdia _ sul ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSi.
mereda ra, amiT? gansxvavebiT
SevardnaZisgan, pirvelma da
mesame prezidentebma qveyana
samoqalaqo omis zRvarze miiyvanes: rodesac adamiani
sruli TavdajerebiT geubneba: `baTumis caTambjeni unda
daingres, radgan cocxiT
gaupatiurebis simboloao~, es
ukve marTlac im donis fanatizmia, rac did sisxlisRvras moaswavebs, xolo am
kategorias rom ar hqondes
yofili xelisuflebis `isedac wamsvlelobis~ gancda
(oqtombris Semdeg), darwmu-
nebuli var, dRes Tbilisis
quCebSi iseTive sisxlisRvra
iqneboda, rogorc 1991 wlis
dekemberSi.
ratom? ra aris am sindromis gamomwvevi mTavari
mizezi? sabednierod, gvaqvs
saSualeba, SevadaroT moklevadiani da grZelvadiani ori
prezidentis (gamsaxurdiasa
da saakaSvilis) mmarTveloba
maTi umTavresi intenciiT.
orive maTgani qarTuli sazogadoebis cxovrebis wesis
radikalur cvlilebas isaxavda miznad. oRond Tu pirveli eTno-nacionalistur diskursSi moqmedebda, meore
igives `modernizaciis~ lozungiTa da dasavluri yaidis
demokratiuli dizainiT
akeTebda.
am saqmidan araferi gamovida da arc SeiZleboda gamosuliyo. davubrundeT isev
vano merabiSvilis wamocdenas
_ `uRimRamobis~ Sesaxeb. misTvis da misi mentaluri Tval-
sawieridan `uRimRamobaa~,
xolo qarTvelTa mentaluri
umravlesobisTvis _ mSvidoba
da stabiluroba. `uRimRamoba~ imas niSnavs, rom, vTqvaT,
baTumSi caTambjenebi aRar
aSendeba. `nu aSendeba, samagierod gori da Tbilisi ar
daibombeba da mSvidoba iqneba!~ _ isxlets sapirispiro
mentaloba.
`Cven istoriiT daRlili
eri varT~, _ werda erTi
qarTveli
istorikosi
`erovnuli moZraobis gariJraJze~. bolo 25 welia, eri
da sazogadoeba cxovrobs
mudmivi stresis, mudmivi
`daumSvideblobis~, mosvenebisadmi mudmivi miswrafebis
mdgomareobaSi da nacvlad
simSvidisa, zogjer uares
dReSic igdebs Tavs. magaliTad, samxreT oseTSi `Semawuxebeli~
sisxlisRvris
dasamTavreblad zviad gamsaxurdias damxobas mohyva
bevrad uaresi omi afxazeTSi
da a.S. miuxedavad amisa, simSvidisa da mosvenebisadmi miswrafeba imdenad Zlieria, rom
mentaluri umravlesoba mzadaa, `mecxre wreze~ wavides _
axla ukve saakaSvilisa da misi
Semawuxebeli(!) modernizaciis winaaRmdeg. aq imaleba
swored miSasadmi `mentaluri
umravlesobis~ fanatikuri siZulvilis mizezTamizezi, maSin rodesac `cocxiT gaupatiureba~ da sxva amgvari argumentebi mxolod am ganwyobis legitimaciis saSualebaa.
Tu biZina ivaniSvili am moments ar gaiTvaliswinebs (mis
gundSi SemZvrali `mentaluri
umciresobis~ zewoliT), isic
amgvarad daamTavrebs!
ar SeiZleba ers Tavs moaxvio is, rac mas sinamdvileSi
ar unda! eduard SevardnaZe
imitom zis krwanisSi, rom
swored mis dros arsebuli
viTareba (ese igi simSvide,
stabiluroba da `xelCaqneuloba~) Seesabameboda yvelaze
metad `mentaluri umravlesobis~ qvecnobier moTxovnebs.
dResac prezidenti iqneboda,
`pasionarul umciresobas~
rom ar daemxo mSvidobiani
revoluciiT _ umravlesobis
gulgrili
Caurevlobis
pirobebSi.
Tumca, umciresobis dominireba didxans mainc ver
gagrZeldeboda da arc gagrZelebula: iwyeba xangrZlivi
`uRimRamo xana~, rodesac adamianebs sakuTari `araevropuli~ Rirebulebebisa da prioritetebis Sesabamisad mSvidi cxovrebis, bavSvebis mSvidobianad aRzrdis, `ZmakacebSi qeifis~ saSualeba eqnebaT
da tkbilad daiZineben im
rwmeniT, rom maT saxls bombi
ar daecema, cxovrebis wesis
Secvlasa da misTvis sruliad ucxo Rirebulebebis miRebas ki aravin aiZulebT pretenziuli, Tumca sruliad
usafuZvlo lozungiT: `me
var qarTveli, maSasadame, var
evropeli!~
eZinebaT manam, sanam axal
istoriul ciklSi morigi
`pasionari~ ar wamoaZaxebT:
`sul Zili, Zili, rosRa gveRirsos Cven gaRviZeba...~
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`didi riskebi da gamowvevebi gvelis~
saakaSvili SeiZleba
daiWiron swored imis
gamo, rom is ar
damTavrda, rogorc
politikosi, 27
oqtombers?
levan jiSkariani
`premieri~ eqspert
soso cincaZes esaubra:
Tu ZiebiT damtkicda misi
danaSauli, danaSauli sasjelis gareSe ar arsebobs. Cven
xom ar viciT, ra samxilebi
arsebobs mis winaaRmdeg?
prokuratura erTi welia
gveubneba, rom Jvanias saqmeSi raRac gamoikveTa, migvaniSneben, rom raRac axali
versiebi SeZleba daidos. Tu
mkvlelobis Taobaze daiwyo
Zieba, rasakvirvelia, gamoZieba saakaSvils gverds ver
auvlis – Tu marTla aris
raime samxili.
batono soso,
damTavrda saakaSvilis
epoqa? anakliaSi man
Tqva, `ki ar damTavrda,
axla iwyeba, rac
iwyebao~.
SeiZleba kidec damTavrda,
Tumca, zogadad, epoqis
dasasrulze saubari Znelia,
rodesac saqme gvaqvs jer
kidev axalgazrda politikosTan.
garda
amisa,
saqarTveloSi Sidapolitikurad
aramdgradi,
gaurkveveli situaciaa –
didi gamowvevebiT, Zalze
myife
da
aramdgradi
demokratiiT. amitomac ar
viCqarebdi, dameskvna, rom
saakaSvilis epoqa damTavrda.
etapi ki damTavrda namdvilad, Tumca uaxloes mo-
vaweobis es etapi damTavrda.
magram ra iqneba ramdenime
wlis Semdeg – amaze prognozireba sarisko saqmea.
ki magram, batono soso,
maTTan Sedareba... riT
hgavda Cveni prezidenti
am moRvaweebs?
xom Cven ar gvavaldebulebs
arafers?
ver getyviT. aTaTurqs sul
sxva realobaSi mouwia cxovreba. iseve, rogorc de
weRan saintereso fraza
brZaneT: `saqarTvelo
bolomde rom ar Sedga,
rogorc saxelmwifo,
swored amitom,
saakaSvilis epoqa ar
damTavrdao~. uCveulo
korelaciaa. anu
saakaSvilze moTxovna
SeiZleba swored imitom
arsebobdes, rom
saqarTvelo jerac
`arSemdgari
saxelmwifoa?~
iciT, ra? rogorc saxelmwifo,
saqarTvelo,
rasakvirvelia, ase Tu ise
Sedga. me vgulisxmobdi stabilur, myar saxelmwifos,
romelsac Sida politikaSi
aranairi teqtonikuri Zvrebi ar emuqreba. Cven ki win
didi riskebi gvelis. ki, yvela politikosi, bunebrivia,
optimisti unda iyos da saerTod, adamiani unda iyos optimisti, magram gaaCnia, ra da
rogor
moxdeba...
Tu,
rogorc ivaniSvili gvpirdeba, 2-3 weliwadSi daetyoba
mavalSi saakaSvils, Cemi
azriT, aranairi perspeqtiva
ar gaaCnia, swrafad dabrundes xelisuflebaSi. xazs
vusvam: ganWvretad momavalSi. magram ra moxdeba, vTqvaT, 10 wlis mere, rodesac
saakaSvili jer kidev politikisTvis metad axalgazrda
adamiani iqneba, amas dRes
zustad veravin ityvis. bolos da bolos, adenaueri 73
wlis iyo, kancleri rom gaxda. amitom, saakaSvilis momavalze prognozebis keTeba
jer naadrevia. Cven xom jer
ar viciT, rogor imuSavebs
CvenSi saparlamento respublika? amiT CvenTvis Zalze
ucxo sivrceSi gadavdivarT.
ivaniSvilis wasvla politikidan... saparlamento respublika... yvelaferi es
Zalian seriozuli gamowvevebia, amitomac Tavs Sevikavebdi radikaluri da erTmniSvnelovani gancxadebebisgan.
vimeoreb: saakaSvilis moR-
am xnis ganmavlobaSi Tu
gaqra saakaSvili, 10-15
wlis Semdeg viRas
emaxsovreba? anu 10-15
wlis ganmavlobaSi xom
raRac unda akeTos,
raTa xalxs ar
daaviwydes, Torem 15
wlis Semdeg SeiZleba
veRarc icnon, - `es
vinRa ariso?~
ki, raRac, rasakvirvelia,
unda akeTos – albaT, iqneba
politikaSi, iqneba partiis
lideri... rogorc Cans, es
partia ar gaqreba. Tu mis
winaaRmdeg ar daiwyo sasamarTlo procesi, Tu mas ver
daumtkicda braldebebi, rac
TiTqos ukve mzaddeba, maSin
sul sxva realoba iqneba. 10
weli ra aris? de goli zustad 10 weli iyo opoziciaSi,
sanam xelaxla dabrunda xelisuflebaSi. mere ra, aseTi
raRacebi politikaSic xdeba xolme.
de goli... aTaTurqi...
miSas Zalian uyvarda
gols. de gols omis gmiris
Saravandedi mohyveboda Tan.
is iyo erTaderT frangi
politikosi, romelic bolomde ibrZoda hitleris
winaaRmdeg.
aTaTurqis
pirovneba cota sakamaTocaa.
aTaTurqi komunistebma da
leninma aqcies erovnul
gmirad, Torem aTaTurqs
demokratiisTvis
bevri
araferi gaukeTebia, rom
aRaraferi
vTqvaT
mezoblebTan mis damokidebulebaze. amitom nu SevadarebT...
aRorZinda da xalxma kargad
daiwyo cxovreba, maSin miSas,
rasakvirvelia, naklebi Sansi
eqneba. rac ar unda ucnaurad JRerdes, saakaSvilis
`aqtivi~ dRes Cveni yoveldRiuri cxovrebis `pasivia~.
ivaniSvili ki ambobs `yvela
dapireba Sevasruleo~, magram, rogorc Cans, ar axseneben dapirebebs `kartelur SeTanxmebebTan~ dakavSirebiT, an `antimonopoliuri samsaxuris~ dafuZnebis
Taobaze da ase Semdeg. aqve
gasaTvaliswinebelia, rom
CvenSi es pozicia-opozicia
sul sxva `anatomiazea~ agebuli, vidre demokratiul
qveynebSi. `nacionaluri
moZraoba~ da `ocneba~ ar
mxolod konkurentebi arian,
aramed mtrebic. xolo mters
mtris cudi uxaria. arada
`imis~ cudi qveynis cudia,
Cveni gasaWiria. amitomac
vambob, rom etapi damTavrda. Cven xom ucbad gvaviwydeba kargic da cudic. xalxi
cudsac iolad daiviwyebs. 510 wlis Semdeg ara mgonia,
vinmes axsovdes, rac cudi
Tqven brZaneT, rom
ekonomikaze bevri iqneba
damokidebuli. anu Tu
biZina ivaniSvilis
ekonomikuri proeqtebi
warmatebuli ar
aRmoCnda, maSin xalxi
isev miSas moiTxovs?
xalxi moiTxovs alternativas. rogorc ki alternativaze moTxovna gaCndeba, ar
gamovricxav, saakaSvilma axali Sansi moipovos.
saerTaSoriso
moTamaSeebi rogor
aRiqvamen im kataklizms,
rac Cvens qveyanaSi xdeba?
STabeWdileba mrCeba, rom maT
awyobT orpartiuloba: `ocneba~ da `nacionaluri
moZraoba~. is, rom `nacionalebis~ mimarT amerikaSic da
evropaSic kvlavac gamoxataven simpaTias, is, rom yvelanairad aCveneben: baqraZe
urCevniaT
burjanaZes,
Zalian niSandoblivia. maTTvis mniSvnelovania, rom
orive politikuri Zala fanatikurad prodasavluria.
`fanatikurad
prodasavluri~, anu
burjanaZe ar iTvleba?
_ meore turi rom yofiliyo
da burjanaZe gasuliyo,
Cven ki ar vadarebT,
miSa edreboda xolme,
miSa...
ki, edreboda, magram ase mec
SeiZleba Sevedaro henri
kisinjers, magram var kisinjeri (icinis)? es ukve
pirovnul
gemovnebaze
metyvelebs. misi nebaa – unda
aTaTurqs Seedreba, unda Cingiz-xans da unda keisars. es
cxovrebis dones siaxleebi,
maSin dadasturdeba, rom
saakaSvilisa da `nacionaluri moZraobis~ perspeqtiva am molodinebis ukuproporciulia. Tu ekonomika
xdeboda saakaSvilis dros.
Cven xom ar viciT, daikiTxeba Tu ara saakaSvili Jvanias
mkvlelobis gamo. amitomac
veridebi prognozebs.
Tqven migaCniaT, rom
dasavleTi iZulebuli iqneboda, angariSi gaewia am
faqtisTvis. bolos da bolos, dasavleTs aravisze ara
aqvs `jvari dawerili~, magram rom ver gavida meoreze?
premieri
24
24premieri
oTxSabaTi,
oTxSabaTi,
3030
oqtomberi-5
oqtomberi-5
noemberi
noemberi
2013
2013#9#9
(009)
(009)
miSas dapauzeba Tu istoriis
dasasruli saqarTveloSi?
giorgi magvelaSvilTan erTad _ biznesmeni levan vasaZe, mama giorgi WiWinaZe, meufe Sio, irakli kakabaZe da kinoreJisori gio mgelaZe
gela kalandaZe
s
aprezidento
arCevnebamde
ramdenime
dRiT adre,
eka xoferiam,
romelic
yvelaze `Wkviani qalia~
qarTul telesivrceSi,
cota ucnauri gadacema
moawyo: eTerSi levan
vasaZe miiwvia da
cnobili istoriuli
fotografia daudo
fonad, sadRac zemo
veraze rom aris
gadaRebuli 1986 Tu
1987 wels.
bevrs gaukvirda, radgan
vasaZe, rogori saintereso
pirovnebac ar unda iyos,
politikur diskursSi ar
ganixileboda. misi biznesmenoba, biZina ivaniSvils,
rasakvirvelia, sasacilodac
ar hyofnis, xolo rac Seexeba politikur ambiciebs:
jer erTi, amgvari ambicia
arc arasdros gamoumJRavnebia da ivaniSvilmac
erT-erT Jurnalists pirdapir uTxra: Sen da vasaZe premier-ministri ar gaxdebiTo.
sinamdvileSi, xoferias
gadacema ara levan vasaZes,
aramed imave fotoze gamosaxul kidev erT personaJs
– giorgi margvelaSvils
eZRvneboda. gadacemis avtors eWvi ar epareboda, rom
yvela gaTvlisa da spekulaciis miuxedavad, mas prezidentoba saqarTveloSi ukve
ganaRdebuli hqonda. Tumca
xoferias Sous kidev erTi
mizani iyo, eCvenebina ara mxolod
is,
vin
modis
saqarTveloSi, aramed isic,
ra socialuri kategoria
modis.
kidev erTxel davakvirdeT Tbiliseli `Zveli biWebis~ fotos. im dros `kutoks~
rom uwodebdnen. termini
`saZmo~ bevrad gvian gaCnda
– marazmatul 90-ian wlebSi. es aris kategoria,
romelic `pidisiatpiatisa~
da `pidisiatpervis~ (anu
lomiZisa da tatulias
skolebs) Sors sivrceSi
gaizarda, plans eweoda da
ukve ara Led Zeppelin-s,
aramed Earth, Wind & Fire-s
usmenda, veris trubebTan da
universitetis baRSi Cxubobda. absoluturad apolitikuri iyo da amgvari
araferi ainteresebda.
TiTqosda, amave Taobas
ganekuTvneba miSa saakaSvilic. magram mxolod
`TiTqosda~. sinamdvileSi is
mxolod erTi SexedviT iyo
80-ianeli, anu `erovnul
moZraobamdeli~ kategoriis
warmomadgeneli. realurad
ki sul sxva socialuri kodis, mentalobisa da intenciis matarebeli aRmoCnda, raSic udavod misi Zalian mZime skolisdroindeli cx-
fasad daujda.
Tu ara da misma gviandelma partniorebma (miSa maWavarian-giorgi baramiZis kategorias vgulisxmob, romlebic, sinamdvileSi, miSas
megobrebi arc arasdros
yofilan) moipovon da
ovreba gamovlinda, romelic ki daZlia, ki gadalaxa,
poziciac moipova da, albaT,
arc iCagreboda, magram metismetad didi nervebisa da
fsiqologiuri `xarjvis~
gviCvenon
saakaSvilis
skolisdroindeli Tundac
erTi aseTive foto, sadac
saqarTvelos mesame prezidenti da misi samegobro
iseve laRad, Tavisuflad,
amayad, giJurad, udardelad
gamoiyureba, rogorc levan
vasaZis, ika kakabaZisa da
giorgi margvelaSvilis kutoki. Zalian saintereso iqneba, magram ver ipoviT aseT
fotos, imitom, rom amgvari
ram ar arsebobs.
swored esaa saprezidento
arCevnebis yvelaze mniSvnelovani Sedegi: ra kategorias dautova saqarTvelo
biZina ivaniSvilma, romelmac
(da es ukve absoluturad
naTelia) Zalze eSmakuri
gadawyvetileba miiRo, roca
arCevani swored giorgi margvelaSvilze gaakeTa!
esaa erTaderTi kategoria, romelsac miSa iolad
ver daaCmorebs. yvela sxvas
sul advilad moisroda istoriis sanagveze, iseve
rogorc SevardnaZis partnomenklaturuli
Taoba
moisrola. magram `amaTTan~
ar gauva. yovel SemTxvevaSi
ar gauva iolad!
maTTan opoziciaSi is
arasdros mdgara. piriqiT:
sul Senatroda da imas cdilobda, sakuTar wreSi mieRoT. bevrze Suric iZia da
ambobda kidec: `zogi cixeSia, zogi saflavSio~ – imdroindel `Zvel biWebs~
gulisxmobda. Tumca fotoze
asaxulma `kutokma~ socialuri degradaciis safrTxe
daZlia da sazogadoebrivi
poziciebi moipova.
aqve unda iTqvas, rom am
mxriv premieris vinaoba naklebad mniSvnelovanic kia. miuxedavad imisa, ra weria konstituciaSi da vis ra formaluri uflebebi aqvs, vereli, vakeli da mTawmindeli
Zveli biWebi viRac soflel
goims `ar ablataveben~.
swored amitom, miSa saakaSvilisTvis dRes politikidan
wasvla bevrad ufro mwarea,
vidre im SemTxvevaSi iqneboda, prezidenti rom, vTqvaT,
nodar xaduri gamxdariyo an
vinme sxva am kategoriisa –
giorgi kvirikaSvili, Tundac daTo usufaSvili... aseT
SemTxvevaSi mxolod daapauzebda da sul male daamxobda axali revoluciiT,
rogorc istoriis mousavleTSi CaZirul socialur
Taobas.
amaTTan ki, vimeoreb, advilad ar gamova. miT umetes,
Tu Wkvianurad imoqmedeben.
aseT SemTxvevaSi is, rac 2013
wlis 27 oqtombers moxda, ara
miSasTvis sasurveli `istoriuli pauza~ gaxdeba (rac bevrjer axsena), aramed im epoqis
saboloo dasasruli, romelic xsenebuli fotos gadaRebidan ramdenime TveSi daiwyo
imave universitetis baRsa da
rusTavelze
mitingebiT,
mravali wlis Semdeg ki miSas
mmarTvelobiT gagrZelda.
premieri
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ratom klavs saxelmwifo dazvervis samsaxurs?
goCa mircxulava
T
avankara
qarTvelebma,
romlebmac am
qveynad
yvelaferi
ician, iqidan
dawyebuli, kvercxi
gaCnda pirvelad Tu
qaTami, da imiT
dasrulebuli, aris
marsze sicocxle Tu
ara, ra Tqma unda,
ician, rom
saqarTveloSi
mstovarTa instituti
daviT aRmaSeneblis
epoqaSi Seiqmna.
nebismieri qarTveli
politikosis
deklarirebuli
etaloni daviT
aRmaSenebelia, amis
dasturad aRar darCa
qveyanaze sulieri,
romelmac mas anderZi
ar ausrula da gulze
fexi ar daadga. aba ra,
upirveles mefes vin
daamadlis saflavis
lodis fexqveS
gaTelvas. magram axla
sxva rameze _
mstovrebze visaubroT.
gaxsovT, albaT, `nacionaluri~ xelisuflebis mier didi
zar-zeimiTa da `sateleviziod
dakavebuli~ rusi jaSuSebi da
amas moyolili skandali, urTierTobis daZabva ruseTTan.
ratomRac, igive warmatebiT, ar
gaugia qarTul sazogadoebas
TurqeTis, iranis, somxeTis, azerbaijanis, evropis calkeuli
qveynebis, aSS-is da a.S. agentebis dakaveba-dapatimreba. SesaZloa, viRacam Tqvas, rom isini
megobari qveynebi arian, magram
logikuria kiTxva _ Tu megobaria, maSin ratom hyavs jaSuSi Sens qveyanaSi? modiT,
realurad vTqvaT _ jaSuSebis
instituti, anu dazvervis samsaxuris saqmianoba, nebismieri
Tavmoyvare da ambiciuri qveynisTvis aucilebelia. ara mxolod ambiciuri qveynisTvis,
aramed qveynisTvis, romelsac
saxelmwifoebriobaze aqvs pretenzia. axla warmovidginoT,
rom, Tu amis uflebas, anu dazvervis samsaxuris yolis uflebas, aZleven sakuTar Tavs msoflios yvelaze mSvidi _ skandinaviis qveynebi, odnav goniereba Tu gaqvs saxelmwifo moRvawes, xelisufals, romelic
saqarTvelos marTav, am samsaxuris gaZlierebaze, zogadad, institutis Camoyalibebaze
rogor ar unda zrunavde?
ufro davkonkretdebi da
vityvi, rom diax, saqarTveloSi aris dazvervis samsaxuri,
magram is aris ZiriTadad
`aparatCikebisa~ da analitikosebis doneze. uSualod mzveravebis kontingenti ki sasacil-
od minimaluria. arafers vambob gadmobirebul pirebze,
romelTa gareSec `sasargeblo
informaciis~ miReba, faqtobrivad, SeuZlebelia.
SeiZleba viRacam Tqvas, aba,
ras akeTeben Cveni saelCoebi
da misi TanamSromlebi ucxo
qveynebSi, amaSi mainc gamoadgnen samSobloso. magram es
namdvilad araprofesionaluri
gancxadeba iqneba, pirvel rigSi imitom, rom is `raportebi~,
romlebsac saelCos TanamSromlebi `samSobloSi~ agzavnian, haha, odesme, `vikiliksisTvis~
gaxdes erTsaaTiani popularobis mizezi.
fsiqologiur mimarTulebebs,
gnebavT ekonomikur da politikur diversiebs, SeTqmulebebsac, SantaJsac, provokaciasac da ase Semdeg. dazvervis
am elementaruli safuZvlebis
gaazrebiTac xom warmoudgenelia, rom saelCos romelime
TanamSromeli iyos srulyofili mzveravi, miT ufro maSin,
rom Cveni diplomati gogo-biWebi ucxo qveynebSi metwilad
iqauri garemoTi da sakuTari
komfortiT tkbebian da
savaldebulo
patakebs
calkeul qveyanaSi mimdinare
movlenebisa da politikuri
procesebis Sesaxeb mediaa-
politikur viTarebaSi imyofeba, milionebs xarjavs sakuTari
dazvervis samsaxurisTvis,
romelsac, cnobisTvis, `mosadi~ (dazvervisa da specialuri
amocanebis samsaxuri) hqvia.
israelis saxelmwifom da
nebismierma xelisuflebam, kohabitirebulma Tu arakohabitirebulma, memarjvenem, centristulma, memarcxenem icis,
rom `mosadma~ _ israelis dazvervam qveynis moqalaqeebis
usafrTxoebis garantis roli
unda Seasrulos. usafrTxoebiso, batono umravlesobisa Tu
umciresobis wevrebo, romlebic saqarTvelos mosaxle-
saxurs kanoniT gansazRvruli
aqvs, rom saqarTvelos saxelmwifo interesebidan gamomdinare
axorcielebs sadazvervo saqmianobas politikur, ekonomikur,
samecniero-teqnikur,
samxedro-strategiul sferoebSi, eweva sagareo kontrdazverviT saqmianobas saqarTvelos farglebs gareT. axla
kiTxva, rogor asrulebs am
funqcias es samsaxuri im
pirobebSi, rodesac misi dafinanseba
zemonaxsenebi
`aparatCikebisa~ da analitikosebis Sromis anazRaurebas
Zlivs hyofnis?
mzveravebs xom minimum sacx-
saqarTveloSi aris dazvervis samsaxuri,
magram is aris ZiriTadad `aparatCikebisa~ da
analitikosebis doneze. uSualod mzveravebis
kontingenti ki sasacilod minimaluria.
mzveravis momzadebas wlebi
sWirdeba, iseve rogorc mis
Canergvasa da `garemoSi~ adaptacias.
axla kidev erTxel, Zalian
pragmatulad warmovidginoT
Cveni regioni, viTareba ruseTTan urTierTobaSi, sxva mezoblebi da davsvaT kiTxva:
saidan iRebs saxelmwifo informacias calkeuli qveynebis
politikuri qmedebebisa da
mosalodneli nabijebis Sesaxeb?
jer kidev 1957 wels aSS-Si
brigadis generlis vaSington
pletis mier gamocemul wignSi
(`strategiuli dazvervis sainformacio samuSao~) saubaria
dazvervis im mimarTulebaze,
romelsac sainformacios
uwodeben. Tavad gamocdili mzveravi (imedia, qarTveli mkiTxvelisTvis cotas mainc niSnavs
brigadis generlis Cini) detalurad aRwers informaciis
strategiulobas. amave dros,
dazverva ar gulisxmobs mxolod sainformacio strategias,
is moicavs ekonomikur, politikur, ideologiur da
monaridebidan weren da `centrs~ ugzavnian.
marTalia, zogierTi qarTveli politikosi acxadebs, rom
qveynis usafrTxoeba parlamentis saqme ar yofila da sakanonmdeblo organom mxolod
kanonebi unda akonveiros, magram dasavleTisken zurgSeqceviT mdgar Tanamedrove
politikosebs vkiTxav: `vin axorcielebs centraluri sadazvervo samsaxuris finansirebis
zrdas? vin iTxovs am samsaxurisgan Sedegebs, vin uwyobs
sakomiteto mosmenebs?~. amCemfexeba qarTvel politikosebs
unda axsovdeT, rom mxolod
fotokamerebis win pozioroba
dayenebuli xmebiTa da TiTisa
Tu yuris, an mkerdis aqsesuarebis, Zvirfasi liTonebisa
Tu qvebis demonstrireba namdvilad ver iqneba usafrTxoebisTvis zrunvis magaliTi.
zogadad, adamiansa da politikossac imdeni ekiTxeba, ramdensac Tavad ikiTxavs da dainteresdeba.
kidev erTi magaliTi _ israeli, romelic umZimes geo-
obam agirCiaT. anu saqarTvelos
moqalaqeebis, romlebmac dagiqiravaT. es principi ra israelSi, ra amerikaSi da ra
saqarTveloSi erTi da igivea.
ufro gasagebic rom iyos,
aqve vityvi, ras uzrunvelyofs
dazverva:
• ucxoeTSi saidumlo
informaciis Segroveba
• qveynis winaaRmdeg
teroristuli saqmianobis
aRkveTa
• ucxoeTSi gansakuTrebuli saidumlo da politikuri kavSirebis Camoyalibeba da ganviTareba
• strategiuli, politikuri, ekonomikuri, teqnologiuri da operatiuli dazverviTi informaciis mopoveba
• da sxva (CamonaTvali
sakmaod vrcelia)
aris kidev erTi principi,
dazvervis Sefebi qveynebSi
politikuri simpaTiebis mixedviT ar iniSnebian.
saqarTvelos dazvervis sam-
ovrebeli, kveba, gadaadgileba,
ojaxis rCena da sxva _
saqmisTvis aucilebeli komforti esaWiroebaT? erTi mzveravis adamianur Senaxvas TveSi minimum 10-dan 20 aTasi aSS
dolari sWirdeba. arafers vambob sarezervo Tanxebze,
romelic nebismier `zorgesa~
Tu `mata hars~ unda hqondes.
qarTul sinamdvileSi mxolod
`agentis~ Svidi klasifikacia
arsebobs (agenti _ saidumlo
TanamSromeli, agenti _ damdgeni, agenti _ gadamyvani (megzuri), agenti _ dezinformatori, agenti _ gadmombirebeli, agenti _ dammuSavebeli,
agenti _ mekavSire). arsebobso,
vTqvi da realoba isaa, rom es
ufro qaRaldze weria. anu, ase
unda iyos, magram sadaa? qveyanaSi sadac agenti salanZRavi
sityvaa, vin moisurvebs, iyos
saqarTvelos dazvervis samsaxuris TanamSromeli da qveyanas
emsaxuros pirnaTlad? miT
ufro, rom es adamianebi politikosebis beci gancxadebiT
daucvelebi arian da ar aqvT imis
garantia, rom nebismieri xe-
lisufleba ar aufrialebs cxvirwin sakuTar agentobas, an
sulac urTierTobis dalagebadaTbobis farglebSi ar gadascems maTze informacias sxva
qveyanas?
axla isic warmovidginoT, rom
agents sWirdeba aRzrda, swavleba (sxvadasxva ramaa, gansakuTrebiT politikosebis gasagonad
vambob), gansasazRvria agentis
taqtika, aucilebelia agentis
Semowmeba, gansaxorcielebelia
SualobiTi Canergva, Canergva
(esec sxvadasxva ramaa) da ase
Semdeg. arafers vambob agenturul qselze, kavSirebze, monacemebze, Setyobinebebsa da
mraval saqmeze, romelic unda
Sesruldes. Sesruldes qveynis,
saxelmwifosa da misi moqalaqeebis usafrTxoebisTvis.
2011 wlis pirveli kvartalis
monacemebiT, saqarTvelos dazvervis samsaxuris uZravi qonebis sabalanso Rirebuleba Seadgenda 74 152 lars. xelfasis
saxiT gacemuli Tanxa _ 682666,11
lars (TveSi, saSualod, 227 555,34
lari, daaxloebiT 123 aSS dolari). gacemuli premiebi da Tanamdebobrivi sargoebi am periodisTvis Seadgens 93531,8 lars. mxolod am monacemebis safuZvelze SegviZlia, vimsjeloT,
rogor zrunavs saxelmwifo sakuTar usafrTxoebaze dazvervis
mimarTulebiT. ramden TanamSromelsa da agents eyofa am
samsaxuris saxelfaso fondi?
2012 da 2013 wels monacemebi
mniSvnelovnad araa Secvlili.
miT ufro, Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT, rom uwyebisTvis arc
ki SeZenila axali avtomanqanebi,
ar gamocvlila aparatura, materialur-teqnikuri baza.
kiTxvebi: aqvs ki fufuneba
Cvens qveyanas imisa, rom es mimarTuleba ar gaaZlieros? aqvs
imis ufleba, rom ar icodes,
Tundac vladikavkazSi ra xdeba
da amas rusuli sainformacio saSualebebidan igebdes? aqvT
Cvens udardel politikosebs,
romlebsac usafrTxoeba mxolod usafrTxo seqsi hgoniaT,
sakuTari vnebebis Cemi da Tqveni gadasaxadebiT dakmayofilebis ufleba? arafers vambob
yofil xelisuflebaze, romelic or koncertSi imaze mets xarjavda, vidre saqarTvelos dazvervis samsaxuris wliuri biujetia?
maqsimalurad vecade, Temis
delikaturobidan gamomdinare,
bevr faqtze ar gamemaxvilebina
yuradReba. arc imaze vambob
arafers, rogori Zlieri agentura hyavs Cvens qveyanaSi ramdenime
uaxloes
mezobels,
keTilismsurvelsa Tu uSualo
mters. arc niSnis mogebazea
saubari. wasuli da axlandeli
xelisufleba gaWrili vaSliviT
hgvanan erTmaneTs problemis
gaazrebasa Tu kritikis mtkivneulad aRqmaSi da meeWveba, am
sakiTxze realurad dafiqrdnen.
magram...
qveyanas dazverva sWirdeba.
Zlieri dazverva da Tu Cemi ar
gjeraT, mxolod fexi ki ar unda
daadgaT daviT aRmaSeneblis
saflavs, iqneb yuric daadoT da
iseTi ram moisminoT, romelic am
qveynis usafrTxoebasa da gadarCenaze realurad gafiqrebinebT.
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The Financial Times: `saakaSvilis SesaZlo dapatimreba
saqarTvelos ruseTis orbitisken ubiZgebs~
„Le Figaro”: `ivaniSvili _ adamiani, romelic
sinamdvileSi saqarTvelos mmarTveli iqneba~
am saTauriT aqveynebs statias `The Financial Times~,
romelSic wers, rom SesaZloa, saqarTvelosa da evrokavSirs Soris Tavisufali vaWrobis Sesaxeb politikuri SeTanxmebis xelmowera gadaidos da saqarTvelo sabaJo kavSirSi gawevriandes.
`saqarTvelo 10 weliwadSi daSlis piras mdgari saxelmwifosgan normalur, muSa da mzard axalgazrda demokratiad iqca. axla ki warmoiqmna
riskebi _ es saakaSvilis
SesaZlo dapatimrebaa.
mis maRalCinosnebs ukve
warudgines brali korufciaSi _ politikurad motivirebuli,
rogorc amas Tavad gansasjelebi acxadeben~, _
wers Jurnalisti nil
bakli.
statiaSi naTqvamia,
rom premieri ivaniSvili
araerTgvarovan gzavnilebs akeTebs saakaSvilTan dakavSirebiT.
`is distancirebas
axdens wina prezidentTan dakavSirebul nebismier sisxlis samarTlis saqmisgan, magram imeorebs, rom gamoZieba gamoricxuli ar aris.
mas an imis Tqma unda, rom saakaSvilis bedi _ patimroba, sasamarTlo, cixe _ ukve gadawyvetilia, an cdilobs, aiZulos saakaSvili emigraciaSi wavides~, _ naTqvamia statiaSi da iqve aRniSnulia, rom saakaSvilis dapatimreba iqneba `dartyma
ara mxolod saqarTvelosTvis, aramed imedebisTvis
demokratiaze mTel postsabWoTa sivrceSi~ da savaraudod, evrokavSirTan vaWrobisa da politikuri
SeTanxmebis gaformeba gadaideba, miuxedavad imisa,
rom es SeTanxmeba Zalian mniSvnelovania
saqarTvelosTvis.
`Tu ar iqneba SeTanxmeba evrokavSirTan, saqarTvelos ar darCeba sxva gza, garda imisa, rom ruseTTan
kavSirebis aRdgenaze ifiqros. SesaZloa saqarTvelo sabaJo kavSirSic gawevriandes~, _ wers gazeTi.
saqarTvelos premier-ministrma ganacxada, rom
is giorgi margvelaSvilis mier Tavisi uflebamovaleobebis Sesrulebis Semdeg gadadgeba. kritikosebi miiCneven, rom ase mas ufro gauadvildeba
axali prezidentis „Zafebze TamaSi”, _ weren gazeT „Le Figaro”-s korespondentebi ariel
Tedreli da reJi Jante statiaSi saxelwodebiT `ivaniSvili _ adamiani, romelic sinamdvileSi saqarTvelos
mmarTveli iqneba~.
`ivaniSvili _ adamiani gamocana. amboben, rom is qveyanas
ise marTavs, rogorc
holdings da yvelaferi imitom, rom
politikosobamde is
oligarqi iyo. 1990-ian
wlebSi man gaurkvevel
viTarebaSi ruseTSi
didi qoneba daagrova
da saqarTvelos yvelaze mdidari adamiani
gaxda. miiCneva, rom
ivaniSvili eqscentrikosia. mis rezidenciaSi baTumSi zebrebi da flamengoebi daseirnoben, xolo Tbilisis sasaxleSi mowyobilia
uzarmazari akvariumi, sadac zvigenebi da tropikuli Tevzebi dacuraven~, _ naTqvamia
statiaSi.
amas garda, statiis avtorebi aseve aRniSnaven, rom
`vardebis revoluciis~ Semdeg ivaniSvili guluxvad
asponsorebda saakaSvils, Tumca mere maT Soris konfliqti moxda.
„amas garda, miSa yovelTvis abrazebda kremlis
patrons, ivaniSvilma ki icoda, ruseTis lideris
eWvianobisa da SurisZiebis grZnobis Sesaxeb.
2011 wels saqarTvelos momavalma premierma gayida yvela Tavisi rusuli aqtivi _ karg fasad da
rekordul droSi, rac ruseTisTvis Zalian iSviaTobaa da politikiT dakavda. saqarTvelos saakaSvilisgan _ avtokratisgan ganTavisuflebiT, romelic male diqtatori gaxdeboda, arRvevda adamianis
uflebebs, iTvisebda yvelafers, rac undoda da iWerda mas, vinc undoda _ ivaniSvili Tavis amocanas
Sesrulebulad miiCnevs.
iseve rogorc mis politikur mowinaaRmdeges,
ivaniSvilsac surs saqarTvelos natosa da evrokavSirSi Sesvla, Tumca mas kremlisTvis
angariSis gaweva uwevs, amitomac is lavirebs, dros welavs da arc imas gamoricxavs, rom
saqarTvelo evraziul kavSirSi gawevriandes~, _ naTqvamia statiaSi.
ucxouri media saqarTvelos Sesaxeb
REUTERS: `saqarTvelos
momavali prezidenti `supermeni~ ar aris~
am saTauriT aqveynebs `roiteri~ statias
giorgi margvelaSvilze. statiis avtorebi
aRniSnaven, rom saqarTvelos momavali prezidenti giorgi margvelaSvili savsebiT Seesabameba supermenobis msurveli politikosebisgan Tavisufali qveynis premier-ministriseul xedvas.
`44 wlis mSvidi filosofosi Tavisi winamorbedisgan – Tavdajerebuli, gulaxdili da
energiuli mixeil saakaSvilisgan gansxvavebul stils SesZens prezidentobas~, _ naTqvamia
statiaSi.
`minda, rom saqarTveloSi aRar eZebdnen `supermenebs~. prezidents kargi menejeruli
Tvisebebi unda hqondes da giorgis aqvs es Tvisebebi. prezidenti mxolod ganaTlebuli ki
ar unda iyos, da giorgi kargad ganaTlebulia, aramed unda SeeZlos gadawyvetilebebis
miReba. giorgis aqvs SemoqmedebiTi unari. is kargi megobari da patriotia~, _ citirebs
`roiteri~ biZina ivaniSvilis gancxadebas.
statiis avtorebi aseve aRniSnaven, rom sakonstitucio cvlilebebis ZalaSi Sesvlis Semdeg,
filosofiis doqtori giorgi margvelaSvili Semcirebuli uflebebis mqone posts daikavebs.
`is saxelmwifos lideri da SeiaraRebuli Zalebis sardali iqneba,
magram sakonstitucio cvlilebebis Semdeg aRmasrulebeli Zalaufleba prezidentidan mTavrobisa da
parlamentis xelSi gadava~, _ naTqvamia `roiteris~ statiaSi.
rogorc avtorebi weren, inglisurad da rusulad Tavisuflad mosaubre giorgi margvelaSvilis sagareo politikis mizani rogorc dasavleTTan, ise ruseTTan mWidro urTierTobis damyarebaa.
`miuxedavad moskovis winaaRmdegobisa, saqarTvelo asocirebis SeTanxmebis xelmoweras
gegmavs, rac kidev ufro daaaxloebs evrokavSirTan. SedarebiT Soreuli mizani nato-s
wevrobaa. ruseTTan urTierTobis gaZliereba, savaraudod, ufro garTuldeba, Tu saqarTvelo moskovis orbitidan gadauxvevs. 2008 wlis xuTdRiani omis Semdeg, romelic saqarTvelos marcxiT dasrulda, ruseTi saqarTvelos or teritorias akontrolebs da urTierToba or qveyanas Soris daZabuli rCeba. Tumca, margvelaSvili acxadebs, rom saqarTvelo
ar SeuSindeba ruseTis zewolas~, _ naTqvamia margarita anTiZisa da timoTi heriTijis
statiaSi.
BBC: `10 mizezi, ris gamoc mixeil saakaSvili
qarTvelebs axsovT~
BBC-sis rusuli biuro im 10 mizezs asaxelebs, ris gamoc
mixeil saakaSvili qarTvelebs axsovT.
BBCwers, rom mixeil saakaSvilis mimarT saqarTveloSi
araerTgvarovani reaqcia aqvT.
`Tumca ra urTierTsawinaaRmdego Sefasebebic ar unda iyos,
mixeil saakaSvili saqarTvelos mosaxleobas didxans daamaxsovrdeba Tavisi qarizmatulobiTa da ramdenime araordinaruli saqcieliT~, _ wers BBC.
saakaSvilis 10 yvelaze dasamaxsovrebel saqcielSi, pirvel adgilze Cai da vardia, meoreze _ arqiteqturuli
revolucia, mesameze _ fasaduri demokratia, raSic
statiis avtori quTaisis
parlamentis Senobas saakaSvilis
gansakuTrebul
siamayed moixseniebs; meoTxe
adgilze qarTuli turizmia;
mexuTeze _ saakaSvili meRvine. avtori wers, rom saakaSvilma ara marto turizmis,
aramed saqarTvelos meRvineobis ganviTarebac gadawyvita. meeqvseze mentaluri
revoluciaa, meSvideze _
halstuxis `Wama~, merveze
meqalTaneoba, mecxreze ki _
botoqsisTvis fuli.
statiaSi aRniSnulia, rom saakaSvili arcTu cota dros uTmobda ucxoeTSi vizitebs da
bevri mas piradi miznebisTvis sabiujeto Tanxebis xarjvaSi adanaSaulebda.
meaTe: saakaSvili an uyvarT an sZulT. aRniSnul punqtSi statiis avtori ganmartavs, rom
10-wliani mmarTvelobis Semdeg, Znelia saqarTveloSi iseTi adamianis moZebna, romelic
mixeil saakaSvilTan dakavSirebul kiTxvaze mxrebs aiCeCs _ is an uyvarT, an sZulT.
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edit piafi da marsel serdani
edit jovana gasioni pirdapir
quCaSi gaCnda. dedamisma, moxetiale cirkis akrobatma samSobiaromde ver miaswro da parizis
SemogarenSi, quCaSi imSobiara. es
1915 wlis civi dekembris dilas
moxda. male gogonas mama lui
gasioni omSi waiyvanes, Tavqarianma dedam ki, romelsac qaliSvilze zrunva ar undoda, is
alkoholze
damokidebul
mSoblebs misca. maT SviliSvilis
aRzrdaze TavianTi warmodgena
hqondaT: gogonas sibinZureSi
amyofebdnen da Rvinos asmevdnen. maT gulwrfelad sjerodaT,
rom amiT bavSvi gaZlierdeboda
da momavalSi cxovrebis sirTuleebs SeebrZoleboda.
rodesac editis sanaxavad
mamamisi masTan mivida da WuWyiani, gamxdari, ZonZebSi gaxveuli
dainaxa, Tavzari daeca. man wamsve
xeli mohkida Svils da Tavis
dedasTan waiyvana. luis deda
bordelis mepatrone iyo. man
bavSvi dabana, aWama da sufTa
tansacmeli Caacva.
meZavebma oTxi wlis editi
Zalian Tbilad miiRes da mzrunvelobas ar aklebdnen. maT
wlis Semdeg is avad gaxda da mokvda. sawyali bavSvi rom daesaflavebinaT, editi quCaSi fulis saSovnelad gamovida. amboben, rom
swored am mZime dRes masTan mivida kargad Cacmuli mamakaci da
hkiTxa, ratom akeTebda amas. editi mas Tavis tragediaze mouyva.
mamakacma safuledan msxvili banknotebi amoiRo da edits misca.
cxovreba grZeldeboda. editi kvlav quCaSi mReroda. saRamoobiT gamomuSavebul fuls
megobrebTan xarjavda, saxlSi
axali sayvarlebi mihyavda,
romelTa saxelebic xSirad diliT aRar axsovda. erTxel ki gamxdari gogona cnobili Ramis
klubis mepatronem SeamCnia.
betze, sadac naTeli, farTo
sportdarbazis mowyoba undoda.
magram piafis gegmebs asruleba
ar ewera.
momRerali amerikaSi morig
gastrolze gaemgzavra. serdani
masTan mogvianebiT matarebliT
unda wasuliyo. magram ar gasula
ramdenime dRe, rom piafs marseli saSinlad moenatra da
saswrafo depeSa gaugzavna, sadac
sTxovda, saswrafod Cafreniliyo
masTan TviTmfrinaviT. serdanma
saqmeebi miatova da niu-iorkSi
pirvelive reisiT gafrinda. 1949
wlis 28 oqtombers misi TviTmfrinavi azoris kunZulebis maxloblad Camovarda. im dRes edits koncerti ar gadaudia. man
mxolod Cumad sTxova mayurebels, taSi ar daekraT. `dRes
Tqven taSi ar unda damikraT.
axla me marsel serdanisTvis
vmReri, mxolod misTvis~, _ Tqva
piafma.
lui leple editis mfarveli
gaxda. man gogona scenaze gamoiyvana da piafi daarqva. lui mis
aRzrdasa da cxovrebis dalagebas Seudga. gogona ver xvdeboda,
lui aseTi mzrunvelobis sanacvlod misgan ratom arafers iTxovda. mizezi martivi iyo: mis
mfarvels qalebi ar ainteresebda, axalgazrda, niWieri gogonas
mimarT ki mxolod mamobriv
erTi siyvarulis istoria
garemocvaSi gogona bednieri iyo.
magram erTi Tvis Semdeg garSemomyofebma SeamCnies, rom gogona ver xedavda. dro gadioda.
edits Svidi weli Seusrulda,
magram mas kaSkaSa sinaTlis danaxvac ar SeeZlo. bordelis
gogonebma gadawyvites, rom edits mxolod RvTaebrivi Zalebi
daexmarebodnen da locva daiwyes. moxda saswauli: erTi kviris
Semdeg 1921 wlis 25 agvistos
gogonas mxedveloba aRudga.
gaxarebulma bebiam editi skolaSi miiyvana, magram iq rogorc
ki gaiges, rom gogona bordelSi
cxovrobda, skolidan garicxes da
luis mosTxoves, bavSvi TavisTan
waeyvana. mas Semdeg patara editi
mTel dReebs mamasTan quCaSi
atarebda da puris fuls maRali,
JReradi xmiT Soulobda.
rodesac gogonas 15 weli
Seusrulda, gadawyvita, mamisgan
wasuliyo da damoukidebeli cxovreba daewyo. gabedulma editma, naxevarda simonasTan erTad,
iaffasiani sastumros nomeri daiqirava. is fuls kvlav quCaSi
simReriT Soulobda.
is, rom tansacmeli unda
gaerecxaT da nivTebi moewesrigebinaT, gogonebs azradac ar mosdiodaT. isini TavianTi cxovrebiT sruliad kmayofilni iyvnen.
TavisTan mihyavdaT mamakacebi, da
xSirad erTmaneTsac ucvlidnen.
Semdeg editi ixsenebda: `normaluri biWebi ar gvekarebodnen,
radgan Cven Zalian WuWyianebi
viyaviT~.
rodesac 17 wlis edit gasions
qaliSvili gauCnda, debma gadawyvites, rom bavSvis damoukideblad gazrdas SeZlebdnen. gogona avadmyofi da susti iyo. ori
grZnobas ganicdida. editma male
madlierebiT upasuxa luis,
romelsac im dros moferebiT
mamikos eZaxda.
piafis wyalobiT leples kabare uzarmazar Semosavals iRebda: editi cnobili xdeboda. yvelaferi kargad iyo, magram ubedureba moulodnelad _ 1936
wlis 6 aprils movida. am dRes
leple sakuTar saxlSi mokluli ipoves. gaxmaurebuli sasamarTlo procesi, eWvmitanili
editi _ am yvelaferma misi reputacia Zlier Searyia. momRerals
aRarsad iwvevdnen, is ubralod
yvelas miaviwyda.
magram iyo adamiani, romelmac
parizel `patara beRuras~ zurgi
ar Seaqcia. Teatris agenti reimon aso editis simRerebis avtori da misi sayvareli iyo. man
uwignur edits aswavla wera-kiTxva da sazogadoebaSi moqcevis
wesebi. reimonma editi parizis
centrSi karg sastumroSi gadaiyvana.
editis da simona mogvianebiT
ambobda: `leplem aRmoaCina piafi. magram mas dideba asom moutana~. swored is daexmara edits,
safrangeTis pirveli momRerali
gamxdariyo. piafi reimons meore
msoflio omis dawyebis dros
daSorda.
editi sayvarlebis cvlas ganagrZobda, xandaxan Rameebs
sruliad ucnob mamakacebTan
atarebda. momRerali Tavs
yovelTvis imarTlebda da ambobda, rom sawolSi marto daZineba
ar SeeZlo. `saxli, sadac mamakacis perangi ar kidia da aqa-iq
mamakacis windebi ar yria, mklavs~,
_ eubneboda piafi Tavis das. is
yovelTvis pirveli tovebda mamakacebs.
editma mxolod erTi mamakacisgan ver SeZlo wasvla. es iyo
ulamazesi marsel serdani: maRali, Zlieri, momavali Cempioni
krivSi. marseli keTili, rbili da
damTmobi iyo. maRali da kunTmagari aTletis gverdiT piafi,
romelic mxolod 147 santimetris simaRlis iyo, patara bavSvs
hgavda.
maT erTmaneTi amerikaSi gaic-
nes. maSin rodesac piafi niu-iorkSi gastrolebs marTavda. serdani
iq sawvrTnel banakSi imyofeboda. ramdenime dRis Semdeg
marselma momRerals daureka da
Sexvedra sTxova. diliT ki maT
igrZnes, rom erTmaneTi uyvardaT.
serdans coli da sami Svili
hyavda. colis mitoveba ar undoda da edits siyvarulis mets
verafers sTavazobda. editi arc
sTxovda. miniaturul, energiul
qals SeeZlo didi siyvaruli da
am mSvenier grZnobas mTlianad
eZleoda.
frangi momRerlisa da krivSi
safrangeTis Cempionis sasiyvarulo intriga SeumCneveli ar darCenila. Jurnalistebma grandiozuli skandalis gaCaReba gadawyvites.
preskonferenciaze
marselma ganacxada, rom momRerali misi sayvareli mxolod
imitom iyo, rom mas coli hyavda
da qorwinebis dangreva ar SeeZlo. es gabeduli nabiji iyo, magram serdans sakuTari grZnobebis damalva ar undoda.
marselis mwvrTnelebi aRSfoTebulebi iyvnen: mokrivem
sruliad daiviwya msoflio Cempionis titulis mosapovebeli
brZola. male serdani gaemgzavra
amerikaSi sawvrTnel banakSi,
katskilSi. piafic, romelsac sayvarel mamakacTan ganSoreba ar
undoda, mis kvals gahyva. erT
saxlSi cxovreba SeuZlebeli iyo,
mokrivem banakis axlos mitovebuli Senoba ipova, sadac editi
miiyvana.
aTi dRe editma Suqisa da
cxeli wylis gareSe gaatara. mTeli am xnis ganmavlobaSi saxlidan
ar gasula. gverdiT eguleboda
ra sayvareli qali, marselma 1948
wlis 21 seqtembers orTabrZola
moigo da msoflio Cempioni gaxda.
editma serdani saCuqrebiT
aavso. 1949 wels marsels
uzarmazari saxli uyida riu gam-
2 noembers marselis cxedari,
romelic piafis naCuqari majis
saaTiT amoicnes, azoris kunZulze kasablankaSi gadaasvenes.
edit piafi sulier tkivils
Zlieri antidepresantebiT iyuCebda. yovelTvis Zlieri, mamaci,
principuli editi gatyda.
is sakuTar Tavs adanaSaulebda, megobrebs msoflios yvela
kuTxidan sTxovda, masTan Casuliyvnen, ugzavnida telegramebs da daxmarebas evedreboda. erT-erT maTgans rober dalbans piafi swerda: `saswrafod
Camodi. wamiyvane iq, sadac damimtkiceben, rom is jer cocxalia.
me minda masTan kontaqtis damyareba~.
sasowarkveTilma editma sma
daiwyo. icvamda Zvel tansacmels,
dadioda quCebSi da gamvlelebs
umReroda. piafi Wkuidan SeiSala. da uceb parizSi movida telegrama: marselis coli edits sTxovda, saswrafod Casuliyo kasa-
blankaSi. ramdenime dRis Semdeg
editi masTan Cafrinda. ori qali,
romelsac erTi mamakaci uyvarda, damegobrda. maT xom gasayofi aRaravin hyavdaT.
dro gadioda, magram tkivili
ar yuCdeboda. axal sayvarlebs
marselis Secvla ar SeeZloT.
editi colad gahyva Jak pilss im
imediT, rom marsels daiviwyebda, magram oTxwliani qorwineba
warumatebeli aRmoCnda. 1952
wels piafi avtokatastrofaSi
moyva.
imis gamo, rom tkivili SeemsubuqebinaT, eqimebi momRerals morfs
ukeTebdnen. erTi kviris Semdeg
editi narkomani gaxda da narkotikebis gareSe veRar Zlebda.
saavadmyofodan gamosvlis
Semdeg editi narkotikebs quCis
Zveli nacnobebisgan yidulobda,
maT Zalian did Tanxas uxdida da
nemss malulad ikeTebda. mas
narkotikebis armiRebis gamo autaneli tkivilebi tanjavda. hqonda `TeTri cieb-cxelebis~ Setevebi, cnobierebis aRreva. gamouvali mdgomareobis gamo piafma
TviTmkvleloba scada, Semdeg ki
mkurnaloba gadawyvita. klinikis
eqimebi gaocebulni iyvnen patara, gamxdari qalis SemarTebiTa
da siZlieriT.
piafi kvlav scenas daubrunda. swored es wlebi miiCneva
momRerlis warmatebis saukeTeso periodad. is mogzaurobda
qveynebSi, hqonda gastrolebi,
ipyrobda axal gulebs da mReroda. editi yovelTvis ambobda,
rom mReris daxuWuli TvalebiT,
ase mas SeuZlia dainaxos bgerebi,
romelic misi sulis siRrmidan
modis. koncertebidan miRebuli
SemosavliT piafi megobrebisTvisa da sayvarlebisTvis saCuqrebs
yidulobda, iZenda vilebs, romlebic arc erTxel ar unaxavs,
yidulobda tansacmels, romlebic arasdros Caucvams. mas ar
SeeZlo, fuli ar daexarja. `is
mxolod dRevandeli dRiT cxovrobda~, _ ixsenebda Semdeg
simona.
1961 wels editisTvis cnobili
gaxda, rom Zlier avad iyo. axla
is mudmivad saavadmyofoebSi imyofeboda da mxolod erTi-ori
dRiT gamodioda, raTa morigi
koncerti gaemarTa parizSi. piafi 33 kilograms iwonida, misi
fexebi gamoifita, Tavze Tma, faqtobrivad, aRar darCa. magram is
xalxs Zveleburad uyvarda. mas
gverdiT hyavda 27 wlis momRerali Teofanis lambukasi,
romelsac momRerali didi xania
uyvarda. axalgazrda berZenma
edits coloba sTxova. garSemomyofebs axalgazrda mamakacis
gulwrfelobis ar sjerodaT da
fiqrobdnen, rom Teos daqorwineba mxolod editis fulis
gamo surda. magram rogorc simona ixsenebda, `is ver amCnevda,
rom editis xelebi damWknari iyo,
rom is asi wlis moxucs hgavda.
is arasdros tovebda mas...~ 1962
wlis 9 oqtombers piafi colad
gahyva lambukass. editma mas axali scenuri fsevdonimi moufiqra
_ Teo sarapo, rac berZnulad
niSnavs `me Sen miyvarxar~ da aiZula, did scenaze gasuliyo.
gardacvalebamde ramdenime
dRiT adre kiboTi daavadebuli
piafi, eqimebis akrZalvis miuxedavad, mayureblis winaSe wardga.
Tavis ukanasknel koncertze piafma Seasrula simRera `ara, me
arafers vnanob~.
editi 1963 wlis 10 oqtombers gardaicvala. is per-laSezis
sasaflaoze dakrZales. vatikanma
codvili qalisTvis wesis ageba
akrZala. mis dakrZalvas 40 000
frangi daeswro. edit piafi mxolod 48 wlis iyo.
moamzada
maka svimoniSvilma
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qeTi gomarTeli:
`siyvaruli unda avsebdes, Zalas
aZlevdes adamians da ara Rlides~
vas. siyvaruli unda avsebdes
da Zalas aZlevdes adamians,
ki ar unda gRlides da Zalas
garTmevdes.
irakli yuraSvili
mogesalmebiT, qeTi,
sakmaod didi xania,
`geZebT~, moanatreT
msmenels Tavi. aqve
madlobas gixdiT, rom
gadawyviteT, `premiers~
misceT eqskluziuri
interviu.
SeuZlebelia, TqvenTan
intervius msvlelobisas
ar vaxseno Tqveni da,
Tamuna gomarTeli,
romelic aseve Zalian
moenatra mayurebels, ra
xdeba Tamunas
cxovrebaSi?
mogesalmebiT, principSi, arc
davkargulvar, ubralod,
bolo wlebi sxva prioritetebiT viyavi dakavebuli...
musikaluri saswavleblis
damTavrebis Semdeg TeatralurSi Cavabare _ teleradiowamyvanis specialobiT.
Semdeg vmuSaobdi radio
`fortuna plusze~, radio
`progresSi~, erT-erTi qalaqis kulturis samsaxurSi,
xolo amJamad saprodiusero
kompaniaSi ivenT-menejeris
poziciaze var. simReras SedarebiT nakleb dros vuTmob, Tumca periodulad
vmonawileob gasvliT turneebsa da korporaciul
RonisZiebebSi.
Tavidan daviwyoT
yvelaferi... pirveli
nabijebi scenaze... es
bavSvobis survili iyo
Tu im dros gaCnda,
roca qarTul
Soubizness SedarebiT
kargi dro edga?
erTic da meorec... bavSvobis
survilis realizebis periods Cems saestrado karieraSi daemTxva zogadad qarTuli saestrado Semoqmedebis
Tamuna ramdenime welia,
teleeTerSi aRar Cans, radgan sakuTari saprodiusero
kompaniis xelmZRvanelia.
xSirad mogzaurobs Tavis
meuRlesTan erTad. amjerad
patarkaciSvilebis `ritualebis sasaxlis~ piarmenejeria.
xom ar apirebs,
teleeTers daubrundes?
es, albaT, konkretul SemoTavazebasa da mis gadawyvetilebazea damokidebuli.
nayofieri periodi. maxsovs,
dReSi 3 koncerti gvqonda,
veRarc vaswrebdiT sxvadasxva qalaqebSi gamarTul turneebSi monawileobas. Sesabamisad,
normaluri
iyo
anazRaurebac. Cemi pirveli
singli, videorgoli da simRerebi swrafadve gaxda popularuli, swored aman gamoiwvia warmatebuli starti.
im periodSi sakmaod
rTuli iyo, SoubiznesSi
damkvidrebuliyavi da
Tan sazogadoebis
simpaTiebi
dagemsaxurebina, es
namdvilad SeZeliT. ra
iyo amis mTavari mizezi?
li ufro momRerlis SemoqmedebiT interesdeba, vidre
piradi
cxovrebis
detalebiT. Tan yvelafers
Tavisi dro aqvs. jerjerobiT araferia gansakuTrebiT
RirsSesaniSnavi Cems pirad
zogadad, ras niSnavs
TqvenTvis sityva
`miyvarxar~, Tu
yofilxar ise
Seyvarebuli, rom mzad
iyavi, yvelaferi
dageTmo?
mTavari mizezi zustad is
iyo, razec mogaxseneT _ male
aitaca msmenelma Cemi simRerebi, amas xeli Seuwyo klipma, warmatebulma fotosesiebma irma SariqaZesTan da singlma, rasakvirvelia. saerTo
jamSi, mravlad iyo miwvevebi
ama Tu im koncertze da es
yvelaferi Zalian swrafad
moxda, drois mokle periodSi gavxdi popularuli.
ra Tqma unda, Tumca detalebze saubrisgan jerjerobiT
Tavs Sevikaveb.
qeTi, aucileblad unda
Sevexo Tqvens profesias
_ kolegebi varT, iyo
radio `fortuna+~,
radio `progresi~, sadac
erTad migvyavda
gadacema, am kuTxiT ra
xdeba?
am etapze vcdilob, sworad
davgegmo prioritetebi da
droc Sesabamisad gadavanawilo. Cemi profesiiT vapireb
saqmianobis gagrZelebas,
rogorc radioSi, aseve
televiziaSi.
samwuxarod, es problema
qarTveli momRerlebis 99%s awuxebs bolo wlebSi. amis
mizezebze imdens saubroben,
amjerad Tavs Sevikavebdi
kidev erTxel xazgasmisgan...
momRerlebs scena enatrebaT
da amaze yvela Riad
saubrobs.
pirad cxovrebas imitom
hqvia piradi, rom SenTvis
Seinaxo. zedmeti ganxilva ar
uxdeba. kargia, roca msmene-
gegmebSi ara marto axali
simRera da klipi moiazreba,
aramed
ramdenime
gastrolic saqarTvelos farglebs gareT, aseve erT-erT
telekompaniasTan TanamSromlobac.
qeTi gomarTelis axal
klips male unda
velodoT?
bolo dros TiTqos
did auditorias
emalebiT, SegiZliaT
gviTxraT amis mizezi?
praqtikulad yvela
cnobili momRerlis
piradi cxovreba yofila
sazogadoebis ganxilvis
mTavari Tema, Tqven ki
mudmivad axerxebdiT,
dagemalaT, sainteresoa,
rogor axerxebdiT?
erT-erT interviuSi
ganacxadeT, rom
apirebT, aqtiurad
daubrundeT scenas.
SegiZliaT, gviTxraT, ra
gegmebi gaqvT
samomavlod?
satelevizio sivrceSi
xom ar unda velodoT
Tqvens gadacemas?
cxovrebaSi, rom sazogado
interesi gamoiwvios. roca
iqneba, ar dagimalavT.
amJamad Tu xarT
Seyvarebuli?
amJamad Cemi samsaxurebrivi
siaxleebiT var dakavebuli.
rogorc giTxariT, am etapze
swored erT-erT telekompaniasTan TanamSromlobis
sawyis etapze var.
sityva ar vici da grZnoba
Sinagan Zalasa da dadebiT
energias niSnavs CemTvis. iseTi siyvaruli, romelic yvelafers dagaTmobinebs, ar
mgonia, jansaRi iyos da arc
mivesalmebi aseT Tavganwir-
didi madloba
interviusTvis,
warmatebebs gisurvebT.
Tqvenc aseve, warmatebebi da
bevri mkiTxvel-msmenel-mayurebeli.
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ori muza, ori mxatvari
tonino guerasa da rustam xamdamovis
liTografiuli namuSevrebi TbilisSi
daviT buxrikiZe
g
orgaslis quCaze mdebare
galerea Akhundov House am
dReebSi ori gamoCenili xelovanis _ italieli mwerlis,
scenaristis, mxatvris tonino
guerasa da rusi kinoreJisoris, modelierisa da mxatvris, rustam xamdamovis
gamofenas maspinZlobs. gamofenis organizatoria mirza faTali axundovis saxelobis azerbaijanis kulturis centri. warmodgenili 30-mde ferweruli da liTografiuli namuSevari imis saukeTeso dadasturebaa, rom didi adamianebi zogjer
uZeglod ikargebian, magram mainc
aswreben, sxvadasxva muzebs erTdroulad
emsaxuron!
gamofena, saxelwodebiT `ori muzis msaxuri~, albaT,
konkretul da gasageb asociaciebs aRuZravT kinosa da mxatvrobiT mowamlulebs. orive xelovans _ tonino guerasa da
rustam xamdamovs xom swored kino da ferwera aerTianebT.
maTi ferweruli Tu liTografiuli namuSevrebi qmnis poeturi kinos TiTqmis magiur da rbili, sevdiani ironiiT Camoqnil xatebs, romelic Tqvens Tvalwin cocxldeba da romelTa daviwyeba SeuZlebelia.
guera ufro gulwrfeli, lirikosi poetia, xamdamovi _
ganwyobiT STagonebuli Canaxatebis avtori;
pirvels sagnebsa da atmosferoSi Cakarguli adamianebi ainteresebs, meores piriqiT
_ adamianebs morgebuli samosi, sagnebi da
atmosfero; pirveli sangvinikia, meore _
melanqoliki... da miuxedavad amisa, gansxvavebulebi, magram raRaciT erTmaneTis
msgavsi mxatvrebi arian. es maT liTografiul namuSevrebSic igrZnoba.
didi italieli xelovani tonino guera
lamis msoflio kulturis nawilia: scenaristi, mxatvari, arqiteqtori, poeti, moqandake, romelsac zogjer aRorZinebis xanis
xelovansac uwodeben. rom ar yofiliyo
guera, SesaZloa, ar yofiliyo iseTi didi
movlena kinos istoriaSi, rogoric italiuri neorealizmia. swored guera iyo felinis, viskontis, antonionisa da sxva cnobili reJisorebis filmebis scenarebis
ucvleli avtori an Tanaavtori. misi
scenarebis mixedviT gadaRebulia ara mxolod srulmetraJiani mxatvruli, aramed
moklemetraJiani, multiplikaciuri da dokumenturi filmebi.
kinoscenarebis garda, tonino guera werda leqsebsa da moTxrobebs. xelovanTa
wrisTvis kargadaa cnobili misi mxatvrobac. kinos didostats ufro naivur-poeturi Janri miesadageba, rac, albaT,
logikuria, radgan, misi naxatebic iseTivea,
rogoric mTeli misi danarCeni Semoqmedeba: feradi, feeriuli, poeturi, ironiuli,
zRapruli... da is mTlianad gaJRenTilia humanizmiT. swored am mravalmxrivobis gamo
uwodes kinos maestros
`kaci,
romelsac wuTSi
100 idea ebadeba~!
italiis aTamde
qalaqSi tonino
gueras eskizebis
mixedviT araerTi Sadrevania gakeTebuli.
isini uaRresad sainteresoa, poetis sulis, misi
xilvebis gamoZaxili. magaliTad, erTi maTgani
mfrinavi xaliCaa, romelic
wylis
Wavlis
Rrublebze mifrinavs,
meore _ totebdaWrili
brinjaos xea, romlis
varjic wylisgan iqmneba... mokled, didi reJisori, federiko felini tyuilad ar ambobda
masze: `toninos gareSe
`amarkordidan~ araferi darCeboda~.
paradoqsia, magram dagvianebuli aRiarebis miuxedavad, rustam xamdamovi rusuli kinos namdvili `gandegilia~. ara mxolod imitom, rom misi Semoqmedeba
70-80-ian wlebSi, sabWoeTSi gvarianad gaqurdes (gansakuTrebiT nikita mixalkovma, romlis filmi `siyvarulis mona~, faqtobrivad, xamdamovis `esTetikuri
receptiTa~ da mxatvrobiT aris gadaRebuli), aramed
imitomac rom xamdamovi _ `Wirveuli esTeti~, verafriT moergo sabWoTa kinematografsa da kinogaqiravebas.
sxvaTa Soris, swored im
periodSi, 70-iani wlebis bolos is TbilisSi cxovrobda
da mis Semoqmedebaze garkveuli gavlena moaxdina qarTulma kinom da gansakuTrebiT
sergo farajanovma. SemTxveviTi ar aris, rom rusi kinokritikosebi rustam xamdamovs `rusuli kinos farajanovsac uwodeben~.
SedarebiT mogvianebiT,
ukve 90-iani wlebis dasawyisSi man gadaiRo filmi `ana
karamazof~ _ franguli kinos
cocxali legendis, Jana mo-
ros monawileobiT.
aRsaniSnavia, rom am
filmis Seqmnasa da
dafinansebaSi cnobili scenaristi,
serJ zilbermanic
monawileobda
_
luis
bunuelis
filmebis scenaris
avtori. 2005 wels
xamdamovma misTvis
damaxasiaTebeli manerizmiT aRbeWdili
filmi `vokaluri
paralelebi~ gadaiRo (renata litvinovas monawileobiT),
xolo 2010 wels
`briliantebi, qurdoba~ _ rusuli baletis varskvlavis, diana viSnevas monawileobiT.
...rogorc galerea Akhundov House-is art-direqtori, arCil
beJaniSvili ambobs, `Suqi qreba da qaRaldze (tiloze) Cndeba
mxatvruli saxeebi, romelTa Semqmnelebi brwyinvale ostatebi
arian. maT mTeli Tavisi sicocxle kinos zRaprul samyaros miuZRvnes~. es samyaro Tqvenc SegiZliaT ixiloT; gamofena kviris
bolomde gastans.
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niWieri, lamazi da mokrZalebuli
niWierTa aTwledi.
sainteresoa Tqveni
damokidebuleba
pedagogebTan _
dedasTan, Tamar
afaqiZesTan da cxadia,
eliso virsalaZesTan.
daviT buxrikiZe
c
nobil
qarTvel
musikosebs
Soris,
romlebic
dRes
msoflios
sakoncerto darbazebs
ipyroben, axalgazrda
pianisti dudana
mazmaniSvili marTlac
gamorCeulia. misi
bolodroindeli
warmatebebi
STambeWdavia: parizSi,
nikolai rubinStainis
saxelobis pianistTa
saerTaSoriso
konkursis gran-pri,
vaSingtonis pianistTa
saerTaSoriso
konkursis mTavari
prizi; feruCo buzonis
pianistTa
saerTaSoriso
konkursis laureati,
august everdingis
saxelobis prizi
miunxenSi...
dudana sami wlis asakSi
musikas usmenda da martiv
melodiebs ukravda kidec,
xolo rva wlisam, orkestrTan
erTad,
mocartis
safortepiano koncerti Seasrula.
swavlobda
musikalur aTwledSi _ dedis, cnobili pedagogis, Tamar afaqiZis mkacri da obieqturi meTvalyureobiT. misi
babua, saxelovani mecnieri,
istorikosi, arqeologi andria afaqiZe iyo, mama _ daviT mazmaniSvili arqiteqtori. swavlobda miunxenSi,
umaRles musikalur skolaSi; saxelovani pianistis
eliso virsalaZis klasSi,
romelmac misi, rogorc pianistis Camoyalibebaze didi
gavlena moaxdina.
swored miunxenSi Seasrula pirvelad raxmaninovis
mesame safortepiano koncerti, romelmac publikasac da
musikis kritikosebsac saamo
esTetikuri Soki mohgvara.
2007 wlis noemberSi gamarTa
koncerti niu-iorkis legendarul Carnegie Hall-Si. Camwerma studia OEHMS-ma gamosca dudanas pirveli albomi
baxis, buzonis, listisa da
raxmaninovis SesrulebiT.
mogvianebiT es albomi germanuli klasikuri radios
BR4-is favoritadac daasaxeles da masSi Sesuli nawarmoebebi dRemde JRers am
Zalian popularuli radiosadguriT.
2009 wels ki britanulma
Jurnalma International Piano-m
dudana mazmaniSvili:
`CemTvis mTavari stimulia
mudmivi winsvla da musikis
Zieba~
davamTavre
Tbilisis
klasikuri gimnazia, Semdeg
musikaluri aTwledi. Cemi
pirveli pedagogi iyo deda
_ Tamar afaqiZe; mkacri da
momTxovni swored Cem mimarT. aman garkveuli imunitetic ki gamomimuSava xmaurisa da warmatebis mimarT.
miunxenis umaRles musikalur
skolaSi vswavlobdi, eliso
virsalaZis klasSi. es Zalian
didi skola iyo CemTvis. advili namdvilad ar yofila
marto cxovreba, yofiTi
problemebis mogvareba da
Tan musikaze fiqri. Tumca
adre Tu gvian am problemis
winaSe dadgoma yvela musikoss uwevs. Zalian gamamdidra
qalbaton elisosTan urTierTobam. is did moTxovnebs
uyenebs yvela mis moswavles
da pirvel rigSi, sakuTar
Tavs. swored amiT aris yvelasgan gamorCeuli. bunebrivia, roca mis klasSi swavlob, es Tvisebebi gadamdebia
da ufro momTxovni xdebi
sakuTari Tavis mimarT...
cxadia, iseTi didi
musikosisgan, rogoric
eliso virsalaZea, bevri
ram SeiZleba iswavlo.
misi pianizmis magia
zogjer uxilavi,
SeuZlebeli da
dudana mazmaniSvili wlis
saukeTeso amomaval varskvlavad daasaxela. dudana
mazmaniSvili solo koncertebs marTavs berlinis,
miunxenis, venis, parizis cnobil sakoncerto darbazebSi.
aseve amerikaSi, prestiJul
`rokfeler centrSi~. mis
Semoqmedebas TiTqos axali
ferebi, siRrme da artistuloba emateba. icvleba xasiaTi da ganwyoba, pirovnuli
damokidebuleba musikisadmi,
magram ucvleli rCeba `momavlis pianistis~ imiji da
statusi _ legendaruli pianistisa da pedagogis, eliso
virsalaZis mowafe.
sakoncerto darbazebi,
konkursebi, aRiareba,
warmateba,
garkveuli
reklama... es yvelaferi
musikosis cxovrebis
Tanamdevi nawilia.
Tqvenze rogor gavlenas
axdens warmateba? xelis
SemSlelia Tu piriqiT,
garkveul stimuls
gaZlevT?
musikoss pirvel rigSi musika, Semoqmedeba unda ainteresebdes, radgan esaa mTavari.
aRiareba da gadaWedili
darbazebi mxolod imas niSnavs, rom publikas dRes
sWirdebi. xval SesaZloa, ase
aRar moxdes; SeiZleba Seicvalos gemovneba, moda, kritika... amitom mudam mzadyofnasa da formaSi unda iyo. reklama da musikosis `kargad
gayidva~ ukve sxva procesia,
mniSvnelovani, magram ara
uSualod musikosze damokidebuli. ara mgonia, rom
zedmeti xmauri, reklama
rameSi xels miSlides, iseve
rogorc, vTqvaT, SedarebiT
warumatebeli koncerti.
CemTvis mTavari stimuli
aris mudmivi winsvla da Zieba. warsuli gamarjvebis xarjze didxans ver iarsebeb,
gamudmebiT unda amtkico,
rom Seni xelovneba awmyoSi
arsebobs.
miunxenis umaRles
skolaSi saxelovani
pianistis, eliso
virsalaZis klasSi
swavlobdiT. manamde
daamTavreT Tbilisis
klasikuri gimnazia, aseve
miuwvdomelic kia. amaSi
melomanebi araerTxel
darwmundnen Telavis
musikalur festivalzec...
Zalian gamamdidra qalbaton
elisosTan urTierTobam. miuxedavad imisa, rom mkacria
da did moTxovnebs uyenebs
sakuTar Tavsac da moswavleebsac, is sinamdvileSi
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festivali saukeTeso skolaa
da iq, sadac ramdenime wlis
winaT masterklasebs msoflios saukeTeso musikosebi
atarebdnen, axla mec momeca
yovelwliuri masterklasis
gamarTvis saSualeba, rom
araferi vTqvaT koncertebze.
rogorc pianisti,
romel saSemsruleblo
skolas miakuTvnebT
sakuTar Tavs?
simarTle giTxraT, Znelia
ase pirdapir da gadaWriT
musikosebis klasifikacia.
yvela pianisti sakuTar xelweramde, sakuTar skolamde
Tavisi biografiiT, individualobiTa da rac mTavaria,
pedagogis gavleniT midis.
Cems Tavs ufro germanul
safortepiano skolas mimgrZnobiare da Zalian
gulisxmieri adamiania. albaT, yvela cnobili musikosisa da pedagogisgan gamorCeuli. roca masTan swavlob,
es Tvisebebi _ simkacre, erTgvari asketuroba da amave
dros, gulisxmiereba da siTbo gadamdebia, amitom ufro
momTxovni xdebi sakuTari
Tavis mimarTac. Tumca
zogjer saSemsruleblo teqnikisadmi pedanturi midgoma axasiaTebs. qalbaton elisos pianistis aucilebel
Tvisebad miaCnia kompozitoris, musikisa da stilis
gansakuTrebuli grZnoba.
Tqven cnobili mecnieris,
andria afaqiZis
SviliSvili xarT.
albaT, babuas xSirad
dahyvebodiT
arqeologiur
eqspediciebSi? ra gavlena
moaxdina man Tqvenze?
roca andria afaqiZis STamomavali xar, es TavisTavad
bevr rames niSnavs. dResac
mainteresebs arqeologia.
samwuxarod, imdenad dakavebuli viyavi miunxenSi swavlis
periodSi, rom didi survilis miuxedavad, paralelurad mainc ver Cavabare arqeologiis fakultetze. bedis ironiiT, konservatoriisa da miunxenis universitetis antikuri arqeologiis
fakultetis Senobebi erTmaneTis gverdiT mdebareobs.
musikaSi WeSmaritebis Zieba
raRaciT
hgavs
arqeologiuri gaTxrebis process. babuas xSirad davyavdi
eqspediciaSi da, miuxedavad
imisa, rom yvelas mimarT mkacri iyo, CemTan _ mudam Tbili
da
sayvareli.
xSirad
maseirnebda da meTamaSeboda,
ris gamoc deda sayvedurobda, zedmetad anebivrebo.
mama? misgan ra
iswavleT?
mama, daviT mazmaniSvili arqiteqtori iyo. misgan konstruqciis, azrovnebisa da
sizustis mniSvneloba viswavle. aseve cnobili fraza,
romelic mis cxovrebas
mudam Tan sdevda da romelic mec yovelTvis maxsovs:
`arqiteqtura _ es aris gayinuli musika~.
miunxenis periodis
Semdeg Tqvens cxovrebaSi
gaCnda jerom rouzi:
Wkviani pedagogi,
daxvewili musikosi da
safortepiano
festivalis
organizatori...
diax, jerom rouzi niuiorkis safortepiano musikis
festivalis damaarsebeli da
organizatoria. pirvelad
man niu-iorkSi momismina da
maSinve dampatiJa festivalze. aman Cems cxovrebaSi
bevri ram Secvala. pirvel
rigSi, Zalian damexmara
musikaluri kontaqtebis damyarebaSi. niu-iorkSi ramdenime wliT darCena SemomTavaza da am xmaurian, kulturuli movlenebiT savse qalaqSi
bevri ram viswavle. SeiZleba
iTqvas, rom es CemTvis gadamwyveti aRmoCnda. jerom
rouzis mier daarsebuli
vakuTvnebdi. Tundac imitom,
rom Cemi pedagogi, eliso
virsalaZe legendarul henrih neigauzTan swavlobda,
romelic Tavad germanuli
skolis warmomadgeneli iyo.
igive SeiZleba iTqvas jerom
rouzis Sesaxeb. cota xumrobiT rom vTqva, am `germanul
Zirebs~ ferenc listis virtuozobamde Tu ara, klara
Sumanis saSemsruleblo xelovnebamde mivyavarT.
albaT, rogorc yvela
pianists, Tqvenc gaqvT
sayvareli
Semsruleblebisa Tu
kompozitorebis
mokrZalebuli sia?
rasakvirvelia, myavs sayvareli Semsruleblebi. pirvel
rigSi, meoce saukunis pirvel naxevarSi moRvawe pianistis, solomon katneris Sesaxeb minda aRvniSno, romelic,
samwuxarod, msmenelisTvis
naklebadaa cnobili. SesaZloa, es meore msoflio omma
da misma pirovnulma Taviseburebebma ganapiroba. solomon katneri Tavis TavSi
Caketili, TavSekavebuli da
mokrZalebuli bunebis adamiani iyo. sxvaTa Soris, misi
pedagogi matilda verni Tavad klara Sumanis moswavlea.
aseve mainteresebs ani fiSeris Semoqmedeba, romelsac
Zalian vafaseb. CemTvis mniSvnelovania
musikaluri
nawarmoebis formisa da sisadavis grZnoba, rac pirdapir ukavSirdeba analizisa
da siRrmeSi wvdomis unars.
da es yvelaferi kargad igrZnoba swored ani fiSeris
mier Sesrulebul mocartis,
behTovenisa Tu Sumanis
sonatebSi. Cems siaSi, ase rom
vTqvaT, sapatio adgili
uWiravT: moazrovne dinu
lipatis, romelic inteleqtualuri dakvriT gamoirCeva, reformator alfred
kortos da genialur improvizatorsa
da
Semsrulebels, feruCo buzonis.
calke da vrceli saubris
Temaa Cemi sayvareli kompozitorebi. pirvel rigSi,
eseni arian baxi, Suberti da
SostakoviCi. magaliTad, baxi
yuradRebas amaxvilebs imaze,
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rom sakravebi adamianebis
xmebs hgvanan da aseve moiazrebs maT sakuTar polifoniur nawarmoebebSi.
Tqveni azriT,
musikaluri nawarmoebis
Sesrulebisas ra aris
umTavresi?
yvelaze mniSvnelovania kaTarzisi. es mxolod gancdis,
an emociis upirveles mniSvnelobas ar gulisxmobs. kaTarzisi xelovnebis cxovrebasTan Tanaziarebas, realobis xilul Tu uxilav SegrZnebad gardaqmnas gulisxmobs. mjera, rom xelovnebaSi yovelTvis iarsebebs
moazrovne musikosis cneba.
cnobil musikosTagan
visTan isurvebdiT
dakvras?
pirvel rigSi, diriJor
gustavo dudamelTan. me
mgoni, sasacilo da sasiamovno unda iyos dudanasa da
dudamelis tandemi!
seqtembridan,
sakoncerto moRvaweobis
paralelurad, Tqven
berlinSi, diplomatiur
samsaxurSic giwevT
yofna. cnobilia, rom
sazogadoebasTan da
presasTan urTierTobisa
da aseve kulturis
sakiTxebSi mrCeveli
gaxdiT. xom ar
SegiSliT es xels
SemoqmedebaSi?
ara mgonia, amgvarma `sakancelario samuSaom~ pianistobaSi xeli SemiSalos, miT
umetes, rom presasTan da sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis
sakiTxebSi
muSaobis
gamocdileba ukve maqvs. socialurisa da kulturulis
garda, es mniSvnelovani politikuri sakiTxicaa. jer kidev
2008 wels, ruseT-saqarTvelos
omis dros, saqarTveloSi
viyavi da mivxvdi, rom aucileblad raRac unda gamekeTebina dasavleTSi Cvens Sesaxeb
swori sazogadoebrivi azris
Camosayalibeblad. amitom xelidan ar vuSvebdi SesaZleblobas, Cemi nacnoboba da
kontaqtebi gamomeyenebina _
xelovnebis sferodan dawyebuli, politikuri wreebiTa da
mediiT damTavrebuli.
32 premieri
(dasawyisi ix. #1-8)
r
ogorc daxvdaT,
naomari, moqanculi, naxevrad Camongreuli Senobis
kuTxeSi Cayunculi,
muxlze mklavgadawyobili,
iseve
ijda.
ra Caidina am SobelZaRlma
_ genocidi mouwyo `sacodav
armenebs~, _ gakvirvebuli
polkis meTauri xelebs ucnaurad Slida, _ esa naxe, rogor
aufatravs, gul-RviZlidan
dauwyia da xorxamde asula! _
erTTan Sedga, `bagramianis~
razmis ukanasknel TavdamsxmelTan, xiStis wera rom gaxda. mklavSi swvda, piraRma gadmoabruna, _ ra uqnia! _ wiklauri iyureboda, narmanias Sescqeroda Rimilnarevi gaocebiT,
_ vaa! _ daixara, gvamis mkerds
Caacqerda, _ dilas iaraRi me
aviRe amisi, xelidan Zlivs gamovacale, TiTebSi Cahyinvoda.
Seyenebuli iyo, etyoba, gasrola ver moaswro, iseTi ZaliT
daurtyams dana. SiSiT?! albaT,
SiSiT.
_ ara, SiSiT ara, SiSi dartymas Tu gaiZulebs, adgils ver
SeurCev, sad daartya _ barZaySi Tu kuWSi, oRond ki
daartya. es fanatis naxelavia,
nodar fanatis xelwera: man
icis, rom unda daaswros da
daaswros ise, rom moklas, arc
meti, arc naklebi, aq mTavar
rols nervebi TamaSobs _ vin
male?! raRa Tqma unda, fanati
imarjvebs, Tundac iseT gamouval mdgomareobaSi, rogoric
radians hqonda.
_ rogor moeria? _ kidev
eWviT ikiTxa wiklaurma, Tumca narmanias naTqvams gulisyuriT mousmina, _ naRdad
mikvirs, _ isev gvams daxeda.
meomrebma gvamebi
amozides xevidan, erTmaneTis
miyolebiT mwkrivze daalages
da narmanias mixedes.
_ axla raRa? _ erT-erTma
ikiTxa.
_ Tavisufalni xarT, _ xeli
auqnia wiklaurma, biWisken
gadadga ramdenime nabiji, _
rao, kaxa, sanam gaJuJavdi am
mawanwalebs, ra giTxres, ra
gvindao, ras gverCian, Tavebs
rad ixocaven?
biWi gaRimebas Seecada,
Zalagamoleuli cacia xeli
uZilobisgan cremlmowolil
saxeze daisva da xma ar gauRia.
ra undaT? _ axla narmanias
Seutrialda wiklauri, momxdariT, naxuliT saSinlad iyo
agznebuli da rogorc arasdros uxvsityvaobda, _ aki Cveni keTili mezoblebi iyvnen,
saukuno Zmebi?
_ ar daijero eg ambavi, _
narmania daxocilTa piradobis mowmobebs agrovebda, _
ar daijero maTi Zmoba, vinc
cxovrebas meduqnis TvaliT
uyurebs _ dRe da Ram iTvlis,
_ biWis gverdSi Camojda asmeTauri, _ ei, Zmobilo, `limonkas~ rom amdeni xalxi ar gaewyvita nexvze mosuli yvavebiviT, maSin ras apirebdi?
_ ras da... _ Zlivs amoixri-
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
ala daqanculma biWma, _ maSin
isini momklavdnen!
_ ho, kargia, rom mixvdi! _
TmaSi swvda, alersiT daqaCa
biWs Tavi gverdiT mjdomma, _
supermeniviT rom Caujeqi nomerSi, Senze naklebi vaJkacebi
varT me da wiklauri, ratom
ar gviTxari?
_ ar damijerebdiT! _ mouWra uceb radianma da yvedrebiT gayursul polkovniks
gaxeda.
_ yvelaferi kargia, rac
kargad mTavrdeba! _ uecrad
Caicina narmaniam, _ ise ki, sxva
droisTvis gaiTvaliswine, rom
holivudSi ara xar da mteri
Senze aTjer metad aris
gamocdili! _ wamodga, Sarvali CaiferTxa da wiklaurTan
ganagrZo dawyebuli saubari:
radianis bedi, rom amaTma angarebam aaRebina xelSi iaraRi
da ara siyvarulma; angarebiT
miudgnen isini mgelZaRlebs.
kargi
Tvla
ician
da
gamoTvales _ omi, Tundac
lokaluri, samoqalaqo, erT
muWa afsuebs ucilobel samares gauTxris, qarTvelebis
Semdeg somxebi abxazeTSi mcxovrebTagan pirvelebi arian.
afsuebi Cakvdebian, qarTvelebs
engurs gadaRma garekaven da
maTi iqneba walkoti zRvispireTi, kargad fiqroben,
Sors iyurebian... Sen kidev
gikvirs, ratom gvaqcies `qristian Zmebs~ zurgi? iqneba rames
iseTs vambob, rac maT xasiaTSi
ar devs? duqanSi angariSi da
mogeba! somxis gegmebi gamWvirvalea, oRond dasanaxi _ Cven
unda omi wavagoT, Tanac ise
rom, rac SeiZleba meti
mgelZaRli moisras, isini ki
darCebian, kidevac movlen...
wiklauris garda, biWic gulisyuriT usmenda narmanias da pasuxsac poulobda
oTxiode saaTis winandel Tavsatexze _ amaT raRa undaTo,
roca ukvirda.
_ movlen, marTla movlen,
xelobaze muSaobda, samRebroc
man Camoitana pirvelma, magram... _ aq xubua moulodnelad dadumda, TiTqos SercxvaT, ise, aRaras ambobda. mis
bolo sityvebze SeCerebul
wiklaurs qurdulad qveS-qveS
uyurebda.
_ patiosani kaci gaaZeveT?
_ mobrunebuli wiklauri xubuas mkacrad, TiTqos interesiTac, SeekiTxa.
_ mTlad patiosani ar aRmoCnda, _ mokled mouWra xubuam da TviTonac aimriza, _
patiosans vin ras erCoda? _
daibRvira.
wiklauri TvalmoWutuli
wamovida foTelisken, wamierad
xubua gaSordaT, aTiode
metris gavlis Semdeg Semobrunda: meore rom moiyvana,
swored imiTi daaSava _ ufleba vin misca... stumars? _
gabrunda da wavida.
kai xans ar ganZreula
wiklauri, TvalgaSterebuli
idga:
_ ras izam, asea, _ sinanuliT gaaqnia bolos Tavi, _
erTi mova, meores moiyvans,
meore _ mesames, mesame _ meoTxes da bolos me var stumari
aq, me! _ uecrad iRriala, _
Cems
miwaze
gabedulad
damTqnarebis meSinia, vai Tu,
CamTvlimos da ciganiviT oTxTvalaze ar movego gons. fuh,
_ hoda, Seatyobineb! _ mzakvrulad CaeRima wiklaurs, _
aqve arian plantaciis gadaRma.
_ me? me ratom?! _ jer SekrTa, mere Seicxada gvenetaZem.
_ aba, maS vin? TiTiT maniSne! _ RimiliT ganagrZobda
polkis meTauri.
_ TvalSi gyavar amoRebuli
niSniani mamaliviT, _ gacxarda gvenetaZe, _ viRac-viRacebi enebs atartareben, _ narmanias gadaxeda amreziT, _ bozoben... Senc dedakaciviT asdev, _ moulodnelad dadumda, wiklau-
romani
PP
giorgi urgebaSvili
_ maTs zurgs uknidan wamoiZaxa moulodnelad viRacam,
mere TviTonac gamoCnda _ narmanias aseulis wevri foteli,
cxvirkexiani ormocs mitanebuli gvarad xubua, _ CvenTan
yulevSi am ociode wlis win,
griSa movida, amaTi modgmisa,
xuTiode weli gaZlo, mere
avukariT guda-nabadi.
_ gagacuraT vinme Tu? _
wiklaurma uinteresod moxeda,
zrdilobis gulisaTvis ufro
hkiTxa, rac hkiTxa, sityvaZunwi iyo, arasodes Caereoda sxvaTa saubarSi da TviTonac
sZulda sxvebis es Tviseba. erTaderTs narmanias Tu SeekiTxeboda raimes, masTan gamoTqvamda eWvs, misi dasturi axarebda, cota zedmetadac ki.
axlac aSkarad ar esiamovna
maT saubarSi xubuas SemoWra,
saxeze daetyo, wasvlac ki daapira, oriode nabiji wadga.
_ ara, xuTi wlis manZilze
wesieri kacis saxeli hqonda,
aenTo, yba aucaxcaxda, xubuas
dabRveraze ufro, vidre mRebavi griSas bediT dainteresebuli. cxvirwin gauCerda fotels.
idgnen da erTmaneTs
TvaliT zomavdnen, xubua
gulze xeldawyobili, wiklauri aZagruli, mTlad mocaxcaxe.
_ mainc ra daaSava im... viRacam? _ bevrs ecada, Tvali ver
daaxrevina xubuas da rogorc
iqna, amoTqva xmis kankaliT
calsaxad meorexarisxovani
kiTxva.
_ ra daaSava da... xubuac
nervebs ahyva, wamoWarxlda, _
meore moiyvana sofelSi!
wiklauri erTbaSad moeSva,
mxrebi Camoscvivda, mwaredac
Caecina. momRimar narmanias
gaxeda gverdiT, _ xedav, Sen
Turme ra yofila? _ moulodnelad gadaixarxara, nawyvetnawyvet, xvelebiT, _ Sen uyure!
Seni! mivida, axla is miujda
radians gverdiT, narmanias
gasZaxa:
_ eg griSkas mteri ra kacia?
_ Sen rogor fiqrob? _
Tavauwevlad kiTxva Seuqcia
narmaniam.
_ Cemi azriT, kacuri kacia,
alali...
_ mec ase mgonia, oRond eg
aris megrelisTvis Seufereblad dinjia, spilos nervebiT,
deda raWveli hyavs da albaT,
imitom, _ Caecina narmanias.
moSuadRevda kidec,
Camocxa; buzankali aiSala,
etyoba, sisxlis suns mohyvnen.
_ ramenairad unda SevatyobinoT amaTebs, _ gvenetaZe
mosuliyo, gverdiT alixanovi
edga, mis Crdils efareboda
`adiutanti~. marcxena xeli
Sexveuli hqonda _ bintsgareT
gamoeJona sisxls. masac miswvdnen mwvane buzebi.
ris mzeras gaayola Tvali, Semotrialda.
radians CasZineboda, avtomati gverdze moedo, loyiT muxlebze Semodebul
savaznes Camohyrdnoboda, moqanculi saxe, sigamxdrisgan,
uZilobisgan Cacvenili odnav
Ria Tvalebi maTken moeqcia da
uTanabrod fSvinavda.
_ aq wuxel radians ra undoda? _ xeli aRmarTa, gvenetaZis mxars miswvda wiklauri.
gvenetaZem mxari gamohglija meTaurs da zizRiT damanWuli gverdze, dvabebisken midga, alixanovic ukan amoudga,
_ me ra vici. magas hkiTxe, magaTia! _ CaiRrina, _ ganze gadeq,
Sen raRas meglisebi! _ kiserSi
wamoartya `meabjres~.
zogierTebi bozoben, enas
atartareben. maTze dakisrebul movaleobas ver, an ar
asruleben, meTauris brZanebebs
yursmiRma atareben, _ gulis
jibe moiqeqa wiklaurma, oTxad gakecili qaRaldi amoiRo,
gaSala, jer weli, ricxvi CaikiTxa, mereRa axeda gvenetaZes
gamomcdelad, _ TxilaZe, JorJoliani, xelaia, nomer mesame
saguSago postze, pirveli aseulis pirveli oceulis gvardiis leitenanti ToraZe... _ sayaraulo ganrigi bolomde
CaikiTxa, mere kvlav gvenetaZes axeda, _ pasuxismgebeli Sesrulebaze gvardiis maiori
gvenetaZe, _ bozobeno, marTalia, roca Civixar, ras ityvi,
wuxandel ambavs marTla bozuri msvleloba rom mivce
dResve....
gvenetaZes yba moeqca gverdze, muSti Camoisva cxvirze da
nikapze.
_ TxilaZe ver movigdeT
xelSi, xelaia zestafonSi
gaipara. ToraZe sicxiani iyo,
rogor ganawildeboda?
_ ese igi xelaia ver moigde
xelSi?
_ TxilaZe! _ RvarZlianad
Seuswora aseulis meTaurma, _
davsji.
_ omSi `vera~ `ara~-s udris.
`ara~ qarTulSi uaryofas niSnavs. uarismyofeli isjeba!
_ kacis mkvleli? _ enaze
moadga da Tavi veRar Seikava
gvenetaZem.
wiklauris elviseburad moqneul muSts ukan gaeqca, alixanovs miawyda da `wadi Senio~,
gamwarebiT Cawixla es ukanaskneli. iaraRi gaaZro. Semoayena, _ icode, damndobi ara
var, _ isterikulad iyvira
dafeTebiT
wiklaurisken
mziralma.
_ rasac eZeb, Sen marTla
ipovi, gvenetaZe, _ misTvis damiznebul revolvers gaSlili
xeliT miswvda, muSti mobRunZa, _ marTla ipovi, _ iaraRi
gavarda, samjer zedized, _
kacis mkvlelebi, arakacebis
ara... gaiTvaliswine, _ warTmeuli revolveri fexebSi miugdo
da wavediTo, narmanias mimarTa.
***
is dReebi _ Semodgomis
dasawyisi, TiTqos erTnairad
moSxama. mters nervebma umtyuna _ niRabi aSkarad Camoiglija: moskovidan ukve mTeli samyaros gasagebad gaisma RvarZlnarevi muqara _ kidev erTxel scdida yofili koloniis
zurgze imperiis namsxvrevi
Tavis satanur maTraxs. es wlobiT dagrovili boRmis gadmonTxevis mcdeloba iyo _
unda CaeklaT ricxvmcire,
yovelTvis mojanye erSi Tandayolili siamaye, RirsebaayrilisTvis kvlav monoba
SeeTavazebinaT, Tu ara... sabolood gadaeTqeraT, veluris
qusliT gaesrisaT.
abxazeTi pirveli iyo,
dasawyisi aqamde gamoucxadebeli omis...
brZolis velze mimofantul moklulebs TanamebrZolebi erT saZmo saflavs
uTxridnen, ukve dro aRar
rCeboda saqarTvelos sxvadasxva kuTxeSi gadasvenebisTvis.
gagrZeleba Semdeg
nomerSi
premieri
#9 (009) oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013
poezia
nato ingoroyva
sabani frTxilad Semomikeca,
mTxova_ macxovre Sens TvalebSi.
gulis jibeSi imedi Cado
da qalaqis cas,
axal mTvared miaxata
misi saxeli.
ar-saiT
“me aravin myavs Senze ufro aRmosavleTiT”
naTia nacvliSvili
aRar gadian matareblebi aRmosavleTiT,
aRar hyavT mgzavri.
arc _ Tanamgzavri.
gaibna fiqri_
Suagzaze mitovebuli.
imedmac icis, gzisgasayarze _
dagtovebs isic.
ise martivad moCans sxva mxridan,
es yvelaferi_
rogorc mzis Casvla.
anda mTvaris,
Rrublis ukan amofareba.
rodesac gtkiva,
is_ vinc giyvars,
siCume aris gamosavali
an
gamosavali xdeba zogjer is,
razec varT Cumad.
aRar gadian matareblebi aRmosavleTiT,
aRar xar mgzavri,
arc _ Tanamgzavri.
dgebi sarkesTan,
sakuTar Tavs aTvaliereb.
es Wrilobebi ise gabevrda,
da TandaTan ise Rrmavdeba,
sulis SeberviT
aRar mirCeba mama.
sagan_sityvebi
Cveni yoveldRiuri Cvevebi
zogjer ufro metia_ vidre Cven.
yvela xmauri dalagdeba,
siCumec gardamavalia,
damkvirveblebs ukvdebaT horizonti.
Sen:
vinc inaxav cifrebs,
romelic gansazRvruli dawyvilebiT
xar Cemi megobari,
an naTesavi memkvidreobiT
an arCeviTi.
xar “saWiro adamiani”,
an adamiani,
romlesac arasdros Sevexmianebi.
isic xar, vinc gardaicvala,
(magram ver wavSale)
Sen:
vinc inaxavs gzavnilebs
CemTvis Zvirfasebs,
visac mogande
Cemi momavali leqsis pwkaredebi.
Sen xom arasdros gaviwydeba,
Cemi megobrebis dabadebis dRe.
yovelTvis ici ra ricxvia xval,
mciredi Tu odnavi uzustobiT maCveneb
dros.
Sen:
romelsac TiTqmis yvelgan Tan dagatareb,
romelic arasdros minda iyos calmxrivi,
visac SegiZlia gamaxaro da matkino kidec
da miuxedavad amisa da yvelafrisa:
simarTlisaTvis ar gyofnis sityva,
xar mRelvare_ rogorc gaurkvevloba,
mSvidi_ rogorc sinamdvile,
Cumi ufro_ vidre siCume
da mainc _mobiluri.
aRsareba dgas patiosan sityvebze
RmerTo,
is ar gegono, visac hgonia,
rac ufro metjer dagiZaxebs
ufro gagonebs.
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frenamde
ufalo,
dRes Cemi frena,
yvela qaris winaaRmdeg,
Sen gabaria.
Tu mogiyvebi:
vcode, ramdenjer,
nu ifiqreb,
Svebas momitans,
codvebisgan vSiSvldebi radgan.
rac ufro xSirad,
ufro mets vambob,
yvela sityva tansacmelia,
samalavi da SesafuTi.
movedi, unda vaRiaro:
radgan momeci
Cemi megona,
(Tumca giraod vdebdi_ siyvaruls)
mainc gavflange.
gamogitydebi:
Zneli yofila Seni dacva orpirobisa
da orpiri qarebisagan.
ver SevZeli,
versad gagivle
qarsacavi mtvrisagan zoli.
ver gavicani vinme meore,
visac kiTxvaze_
Tu rogora var_
mouyvebodi
sinamdvileSi rogor var marTlac.
arc imas vicnob,
Cems xsenebaze _iRimebodes,
roca iq ar var.
mokled asea:
dro, romelic vicxovre
jer ver gamoviyene.
gTxov:
damifaro imisagan, rac ukve iyo
da Tu odesme gadawyvet viyo,
dameyrdeni, an raime momec saydenad.
manaxe is dro,
roca mjera rasac amboben,
gamzarde erTi siyvaruliT meti
da aRiare:
rom imitom gamomigone _
rom gWirdebodi.
aravin
aseTi dReebi unda Seiyvaro:
TavmiSvebuli,
mZime,
xisti.
nu ityvi uars:
daexmaro meores,
iyos is, vinc aris.
darCi erTiT (an metiT) naklebi,
gaiRaribe sakuTari Tavi,
( an rodis iyavi saamisod mdidari.)
sanacvlod:
geqneba pasuxi motivtive kiTxvebze_
myari da zusti.
gaicvleba mdgomareoba_gulSiCakvra,
sityvaze_ gulisCawyveta.
xelCakidebulebi _ gaaTavisufleben xelisgulebs.
gaqreba Rimili,
romelic gaerTianebdaT.
Cadgeba sityva_
“aravin”_
Tqvens Soris.
dagRlian pasuxebi
da dagajereben,
rom
arc ise martivia, giyvardes is,
visac uyvarxar.
mtredebis dapureba
qalaqi,
romelic zRapars hgavs da jadosnuria,
uZlebs legendebs.
iq,
Tavganwirulebi aRebdnen fanjrebs,
qalaqi iTmenda TviTmkvlelobebs.
ramdenjer mtredi SefrTxialda,
imdenjer CemTvis gavifiqre:
fanjara. vardna.
maT
hqondaT iluzia,
rom sikvdils angariSi gauswores,
rom simaRlidan xtomiT, sakuTar Tavs
gaaswres
da TviTmkvlelobis vneba igemes.
im qalaqSi,
erTxel guli gamiCerda.
qalaqSi, romelSic vcxovrob,
ar aReben fanjrebs TviTmklelobisTvis.
aq Rimils mgvris
da Rimils irgebs _morCileba.
aq Sewirvaa:
neba - neba,
dRiTi - dRe,
wveT - wveT.
m e _frTadaWrili,
gametebuli frenisaTvis,
mxolod qvemoTa mimarTulebiT.
zRva kovziT dailia
da vTqvi:
praRa, dro _warsuli.
Tbilisi _axlandeli dro.
7 ivnisi, 2012 weli
sizmar- cxadi
...da yvela sityva,
riTac aqamde Tavs vicavdiT,
Caikarga qalaqSi,
romelSic dro mogzaurobs.
gadaeSva xididan,
sadac ori zRva erTmaneTs xvdeba.
da rac gadarCa erTmaneTisTvis,
movida RamiT, zustad maSin,
roca aRar ginda geZinos marto.
tuCi tuCze gadamafara
da xmiT,
romelic Tuki arsebobda aRar megona,
miCurCula:
ukve droa. vaRiaroT.
damimaxsovre.
Tu isev unda gamawbilo,
nuRar Semxvdebi.
damtove marto,
Sematove monapovari,
rom ar vidge zurg_Seqceuli.
rac unda meTqva,
bolos vinaxav:
rom ufro didxans ,
rom ufro bevrjer,
viqnebodi me_ Sens gareSe.
ubralod maxsovs:
yvela Cvengani,
viRacisTvis
erTxel mainc xdeba
iuda.
sadguri
“...rom sarkesTan, SemosasvlelSi,
sakidis Ziras, _
daqarguli Custebis gverdiT
arasodes ucxovriaT
did, mZime fostlebs…”
ela (s)
SemaCre da Semaxsene:
am gaCerebaze _
mec Camovdivar.
gamomiWire:
bavSvobaSi rogor vmalavdi
loginis qveS yvela zedmet nivTs.
(roca karze viRac akakunebda).
maTqmevine:
rom nacnobia
am tkivilis temperatura.
daxede Cems xelebs,
zamTris Rameebze
ufro metad dagrZelebulebs
da gamokidulebs haerSi .
ra dro gasula,
rac damariges:
„ukve didi gogo xar,
aRar itiroo!”
momabares sakuTari Tavi,
Tavad viyavi baton -patroni.
(ra mcirea es samflobelo).
rac erTxel gaikvanZa,
verc erTma qarma Tu qarborbalam
ver SeZlo da ver gamixsna.
am gaCerebaze
yvela mimarTulebis nacvlad
vawer SenTvis: „nu geSinia”!
da vamSvideb sakuTar Tavs.
frTxilia Cemi bedniereba,
iSviaTad gamodis gareT.
Citis guli aqvs Cems sixaruls,
da mainc frinavs.
34 premieri
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
premierSi
`wesiT, `SeniSvna~ pirad sakiTxze prezident margvelaSvilisTvis saqarTvelos patriarqs unda mieca _ gadaikiTxeT
qarTveli klasikosebi. grigol
xanZTelis cxovreba _ aSot
kurapalatis gardareuli siyvarulis ambavi!~
maia furcelaZe
premierSi
`me mgoni, es premieroba
latariaa, visac amouva, is
gaxdeba. :))~
vaxuSti menabde
premierSi
premierSi
premierSi
`dRes premier-ministrsa da
arCeul prezidents Zalian
swori gzavnilebi hqondaT sagareo politikasTan da ruseTTan dakavSirebiT. gansakuTrebiT xazs gavusvam arCeuli prezidentis gzavnils,
rom unda moxdes Jenevis formatis gaaqtiureba da rom mniSvnelovania vilniusis samitis Semdeg Zalisxmevis gaaqtiureba. Zalian kargia, rom es gzavnilebi iqna gaJRerebuli. da
ar SemiZlia, ar gamovTqva dadebiTi damokidebuleba premieris mier mts-Tan dakavSirebul gancxadebaze. ruseTis okupacias, maT Soris, samarTlebrivi gzebiT unda vebrZoloT.
am kuTxiT minda gavaxseno xelisuflebas, rom dawyebuli
iyo konsultaciebi ruseTTan marTlmsajulebis, sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis Semdeg ormxrivi molaparakebebis dawyebis Sesaxeb, romelic unda Sexeboda devnilebis dabrunebis
Temis ganxilvas. imedi maqvs, rom es sakiTxi gagrZeldeba.
aseve mniSvnelovania, rom droulad amoqmeddes ruseTis
msoflio savaWro organizaciaSi gawevrianebis Sedegad xelmowerili ormxrivi xelSekruleba. mokled, dRes, me ra
gzavnilebic movismine premierisa da arCeuli prezidentis
mxridan sagareo politikaze, mxolod dadebiTi iyo. imedia,
araferi gamomrCa!~
sergi kapanaZe
`Sen SegiZlia, gasce yvelaferi biujetidan da xalxi
moklevadian periodSi kmayofili gyavdes. magram grZelvadian periodSi aman SeiZleba gamoiwvios ekonomikis Seferxeba da vardna. negatiuri tendenciebis gaCena, biznesis
ganviTarebis TvalsazrisiT arasasurveli klimatis Camoyalibeba. amas ki SeiZleba mohyves ekonomikuri krizisi~.
levan kalandaZe
`guSin Zmakacma gamaxsena, rom
TiTqmis erTi wlis win, margvelaSvilze maRali reitingi
mqonda (`kviris azrebSi~). asea,
kikon, droni mefobeno~.
giorgi kikoniSvili
premierSi
`kidev erTxel Cemi simpaTiebi giorgi margvelaSvils.
kacma, romelic guSin
saqarTvelos prezidenti gaxda, pirdapir eTerSi gamoacxada, _ miyvars es qali da yvelaferi danarCeni ar mainteresebso.
p.s. ramden kacs icnobT aseTs???~
eliso kilaZe
premierSi
`deda, biWo, ar gaaxures
saqme WyvitiniiT? zogma xmebi
rom miiRo arCevnebSi, magaTze meti `frendi~ myavs `feisbukSi~ da or magdons kide ver vimateb, limiti gaqvs amowurulio, cukeram~.
giorgi fofxaZe
premierSi
`iqneb gveSvelos... CagvZires,
miwasTan gagvaswores, lafSi
amosvares qarTvelis saxeli,
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siduxWire, uwignuroba, uzneoba _ ai, ra moutanes arakacebma bedkrul qveyanas... gveSveleba, gveSveleba, rogorc gvSveloda saocari, amoukiTxavi, albaT, RmerTis mier naboZebi
Jini sicocxlisa. patiosnebis genebi kvlav magrdebian! oRond
saRi goneba SevaSveloT Cvens gabruebul idealizms, oRond
fanatizms samudamod davemSvidoboT. Cven veluri tomi ar
gaxlavarT _ beladebi ar gvWirdeba da arc viTom qarizmatuli flidebi! adamiani gvWirdeba, adamiani, Tavisufali,
laRi, Tamami, kacTmoyvare, ganaTlebuli da bednieri... gveSveleba~.
robert sturua
premierSi
`saqarTvelos prezidentoba
kidev ufro mimzidveli gaxda.
axal prezidents gacilebiT
naklebi pasuxismgebloba aqvs,
samagierod kargi ofisi,
`paezdkebi~, kargi CV, `Rvino,
qalebi, duduki~ garantirebuli eqneba~.
nikoloz mWedliSvili
premierSi
`ra dro damidga, zustad
erTi wlis win me da batoni
prezidenti erT gadacemaze
vmuSaobdiT~.
aleqsandre
lorTqifaniZe
ambebi
premierSi
`ise valeri trirveilers
da fransua olandsac ar aqvT
xeli mowerili, anu safrangeTis pirveli qalbatonic `megobari qalia~, ra moxda mere... mxolod axla ar damiwyoT,
Cven sxva da uZvelesi tradiciis eri varT, es ar gvekadrebao:)~.
paata qurdaZe
premierSi
`me aseTi raRaca minda
giTxraT: kacis kacma kacis
kacs misca xma, kacma ki kacs
misca xma. gaigeT?~ _ guSin,
`pikis saaTSi~ dareka msmenelma da mkveTrad megruli kiloTi gangvicxada es~.
premierSi
daviT paiWaZe
`sainteresoa, amieridan giorgi margvelaSvils TqvenobiT
unda
velaparako?
aseT
gamocdileba jer ar mqonia.~
ia anTaZe
premierSi
`minda madloba gadavuxado,
q-n sandra elisabed rulovss,
yvela im keTili saqmisTvis,
romelic man gaakeTa uamravi
adamianisTvis da qveynisTvis.
imisTvis, rom saqarTveloSic vnaxeT, rogori unda iyos,
qveynis Rirseuli pirveli ledi.
madloba q-no sandra.
warmatebebs gisurvebT!...~
goga xaCiZe
premierSi
`wiTeli zona~ (am etapze)
daxurvas gadaurCa, magram samagierod, kidev erTxel moxda
Cveni Zvirfasi sazogadoebrivi
mauwyeblis lustracia _ Tavis tyemalaZeebiTa da
goguaZeebiT. imedia, xelisufleba xvdeba, rom amJamindeli sazogadoebrivi mauwyebeli ukve misi saxecaa~.
Sorena SaverdaSvili.
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#9 (009) oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013
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saqarTvelos ZiudoistTa axalgazrduli nakrebi
msoflios Cempionia
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aqarTvelos ZiudoistTa axalgazrduli nakrebi msoflios
gunduri Cempionatis gamarjvebuli gaxda. axalgazrda
qarTvelebma finalSi saberZneTis gunds 4:1 sZlies.
sloveniis dedaqalaq liublianaSi dasrulebul msoflios Cempionatze gunduri Sejibris pirvel wreSi qarTvelma
Ziudoistebma ruseTis nakrebi 3-2 daamarcxes. Semdeg
meoTxedfinalSi 5-0 sZlies monRoleTis nakrebs, xolo naxevarfinalSi aseTive angariSiT _ sloveniel Tanatolebs.
msoflios gunduri Cempionati axalgazrdebs Soris wleuls pirvelad Catarda. mesame adgilebze gavidnen iaponiisa da ukrainis nakrebebi.
aRsaniSnavia, rom oriode Tvis win rio-de-JaneiroSi msoflios
gunduri Cempionati saqarTvelos ZiudoistTa erovnulma nakrebmac
moigo, rodesac finalSi ruseTi daamarcxa. amjerad msoflios Cempionebi ukve axalgazrda Ziudoistebi gaxdnen.
2017 wels 19 wlamdel
xelburTelTa msoflios
Cempionats saqarTvelo
umaspinZlebs
2
s
19 wlamde moragbeTa nakrebma CexeTis nakrebs didi
angariSiT _ 69:8 sZlia
aqarTvelos 19 wlamde moragbeTa nakrebma 2013 wlis evropis Cempionatze pirvel
matCSi CexeTis nakrebs didi angariSiT _ 69:8 sZlies. am mogebiT umcrosi borjRalosnebi turniris naxevarfinalSi gavidnen, sadac espaneTis nakrebs Sexvdebian. espaneTis nakrebma meoTxedfinalur etapze rumineTis 19 wlamdelTa gunds
27:3 mougo.
meore naxevarfinalur wyvilSi erTmaneTs portugaliisa da belgiis 19 wlamdelTa nakrebebi Seerkinebian.
amrigad, naxevarfinaluri Sexvedra saqarTvelosa da espaneTis nakreb gundebs Soris 30
oqtombers, Tbilisis droiT 21:00 saaTze daiwyeba.
017 wlis WabukTa msoflio Cempionati saqarTveloSi gaimarTeba. aseTi gadawyvetileba miiRo 27 oqtombers xelburTis saerTaSoriso federaciis kongresma dohaSi (yatari).
kandidati ori iyo _ saqarTvelo da xorvatia.
kongresma moiwona saqarTvelos xelburTis
federaciis ganacxadi, romlis mixedviTac 19
wlamdelTa msoflio Cempionati unda gaimarTos oTx qalaqSi _ TbilisSi, quTaisSi, baTumsa
da TelavSi.
dagegmilia sami axali, Tanamedrove standartis sportis sasaxlis mSenebloba TelavSi
(2000 adgili), quTaisSi (3-4 aTasi) da baTumSi (5-6 aTasi), rasac mxars uWers saqarTvelos
mTavroba. Sejibreba 2017 wlis agvistoSi unda gaimarTos.
xorvatiam miiRo imave wlis axalgazrduli (U-21) msoflio Cempionatis gamarTvis ufleba. WabukTa msoflio CempionatSi 24 gundi monawileobs, saqarTvelo, rogorc turniris
maspinZeli, Sejibrze SesarCevi turniris gareSe daiSveba. 19 wlamdelTa msoflios Cempionati 2005 wlidan imarTeba.
dRemde 5 Cempionati yatarSi, bahreinSi, tunisSi, argentinasa da ungreTSi Catarda. dohaSi
saqarTvelos waradgendnen xelburTis federaciis prezidenti zurab kakabaZe, generaluri
mdivani qeTevan koberiZe, erovnuli olimpiuri komitetis generaluri mdivani emzar zenaiSvili, baTumis sakrebulos Tavmjdomare irakli CavleiSvili, imereTisa da kaxeTis
regionuli xelburTis federaciebis prezidentebi _ daviT abulaZe da giorgi svimoniSvili.
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daniel ageri mzadaa,
`liverpuli~ datovos
iverpulis~ danieli mcveli _ daniel ageri ukmayofiloa gundSi yofniT da
mzadaa, sxva klubSi gadavides.
`Tu mwvrTneli miiCnevs, rom me sakmarisad kargi ar var, mzad var, davtovo
`liverpuli~. me aq fexburTis saTamaSod var da sxva arafrisTvis. Tu ar maTamaSeben, aq araferi mesaqmeba~, _ ganacxada agerma.
`liverpulis~ mTavari mwvrTneli brendan rojersi acxadebs, rom mas esmis fexburTelis
wuxili, magram darwmunebulia, rom yovelTvis samarTliani iyo Tavis ferburTelebTan
mimarTebaSi.
`mudmivad vcdilob, fexburTelebis mimarT samarTliani viyo. viRacebi amboben, rom me
ar momwons calkeuli moTamaSeebi, magram es ase araa. CemTvis mTavaria, rogor asaparezoben
isini. Tu Sen kargad TamaSob, maSin gaxval moedanze, Tu _ ara, darCebi saTadarigo SemadgenlobaSi. daniis nakrebis kapitani saTadarigoTa skamze zis, magram me vcdilob samarTlianad mivudge Semadgenlobis gansazRvras~, _ ganacxada rojersma.
s
manuCar markoiSvili travmis gamo moedans 3 TviT
CamoSorda
aqarTvelos nakrebisa da Turqulis `galaTasarais~ ukanaxazeli, manuCar markoiSvili daSavda, ris gamoc, savaraudod, 3 Tve ver iTamaSebs. es informacia Turqul
presaSi gavrcelda.
markoiSvilma varjiSze fexis myesi daiziana da winaswari varaudiT, mis reabilitacias 3 Tve dasWirdeba. stamboluri klubisTvis es meore seriozuli danaklisia. 1
kviris win `galaTasarais~ neiT javai gamoaklda da misi Semcvleli Turqulma grandma ukve
ipova _ pops mensa bonsu. miiyvanen Tu ara gundSi markoiSvilis Semcvlels, es male gamoCndeba.
moamzada giorgi navrozaSvilma
36 premieri
tom hardi elton jonis rols
Seasrulebs
t
om hardi elton jonis rols Seasrulebs filmSi
`Rocketman~ (`adamiani-raketa~). filmma saTauri
britaneli pop-musikosis amave saxelwodebis hitis pativsacemad miiRo. es simRera musikosma 1972
wels dawera.
biografiuli suraTis reJisori maikl greisi
iqneba. filmi misi sadebiuto namuSevari gaxdeba.
manamde greisi reklamiTa da vizualuri efeqtebis SeqmniT
iyo dakavebuli. gavrcelebuli informaciiT, filmi elton
jonis cxovrebisa da Semoqmedebis Sesaxeb mogviTxrobs.
filmis gadaRebebi 2014 wlis Semodgomaze daiwyeba. savaraudo premieris TariRi ucnobia.
britaneli msaxiobi tom hardi cnobilia filmebiT `mebrZoli~, `dasawyisi~, `bneli raindi: legendis aRzeveba~.
maikl jeqsoni umdidresi
gardacvlili varskvlavia
m
aikl jeqsoni sikvdilidan oTxi wlis Semdegac
ara mxolod pop-musikis mefed rCeba, aramed sxvadasxva reitingis lidericaa. amjerad momRerali umdidres gardacvlil varskvlavTa siis saTaveSia.
Jurnalma `forbsma~ im varskvlavebis Semosavali Seafasa, romlebic sikvdilis Semdegac `gamoimuSaveben~ honorarebs. reitingis Semdgenlebma varskvlavebis SemoqmedebiTi memkvidreobidan miRebuli Semosavali da
maTi kuTvnili finansuri da materialuri aqtivebis Rire-
buleba gaiTvaliswines. bolo erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi maikl
jeqsonma 160 mln dolari gamoimuSava. man ukan Camoitova
cocxali umdidresi varskvlavi madona, romlis safulec
erT weliwadSi mxolod 125 mln dolariT Seivso.
reitingSi meore adgils legendaruli elvis presli
ikavebs (55 mln dolari), mesame adgili wilad xvda mxatvarkarikaturist Carlz monro Sulcs (37 mln dolari), Semdeg
modian elizabet teilori (25 mln dolari), bob marli (18
mln dolari), merlin monro (15 mln dolari) da jon lenoni (12 mln dolari).
maikl jeqsoni 2009 wlis ivnisSi los-anjelesSi kaliforniis universitetis hospitalSi 51 wlis asakSi gardaicvala.
mogvianebiT sasamarTlom damnaSaved cno pop-mefis eqimi
konrad miurei, romelsac 4-wliani patimroba miesaja.
braldebis versiiT, swored man misca musikoss propofolis gadametebuli doza, romelic momRerlis sikvdilis
mizezi gaxda. msjavrdadebuli Tavs damnaSaved ar cnobs,
misi advokatebi acxadeben, rom momRerali damamSvidebel
medikamentebze iyo damokidebuli da propofolis sasikvdilo doza Tavad miiRo.
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
Queen-is musikosebma fredi merkuris rolis
Semsrulebeli msaxiobi SearCies
Q
ueen-is musikosebs britaneli msaxiobi ben uiSou fredi merkuris
rolze optimalur kandidatad miaCniaT. amis Sesaxeb jgufis wevrma
rojer teilorma ganacxada.
Tavdapirvelad merkuris rolze saSa baron koeni ganixileboda.
Tumca 2013 wlis ivlisSi cnobili gaxda, rom msaxiobi proeqts gamoeTiSa. gavrcelda informacia, rom mas SemoqmedebiTi uTanxmoeba
hqonda Queen-is wevrebTan, romlebic filmis prodiuserebi arian
(proeqtis kidev erTi prodiuseri robert de niroa).
seqtemberSi Queen-is wevrebma ganacxades, rom maT ar surdaT filmi xumrobas damsgavseboda. maTi CanafiqriT, suraTma mayurebelze unda imoqmedos,
koeni ki mxolod komediuri rolebiTaa cnobili.
mogvianebiT presaSi daiwera, rom merkuris dominik kuperi iTamaSebda. kidev
erT potenciur kandidatad deniel redklific saxeldeboda, romelmac popularoba hari poteris roliT moipova. Tumca es informacia redklifma uaryo.
ben uiSou gadaRebulia filmebSi: `parfiumeri: erTi mkvlelis istoria~,
`dabruneba braidshedSi~ da `007: skaifolis koordinatebi~. fredi merkuris
rolis Sesrulebis Sesaxeb oficialuri winadadeba msaxiobs jer ar miuRia.
kolin farelma
pornomagnatebs
xuT milion
dolarze uari
uTxra
c
nobilma msaxiobma
da qalTa gulTampyrobelma kolin
farelma uari Tqva
xuT milion dolarze,
romelsac
pornomagnatebi
daJinebiT sTavazobdnen im
videos gamoqveynebis uflebisTvis, sadac Playboy-is model nikol narainTan seqsis
dros aris aRbeWdili.
farelis TqmiT, videoCanaweris ukanonod gavrcelebis
aRkveTis mizniT 2006 wels sasamarTlo procesis dawyebis
iniciativiTac gamovida. `am
videoSi karg Tanxas mTavazobdnen, Tumca uariT vupasuxe. warmomidgenia, rogori reaqcia eqneboda dedaCems, roca Svilis axali filmis naxvas gadawyvetda~, _ ganacxada
msaxiobma.
farelma aRniSna, rom dRes Tavs ukeTesad grZnobs, vidre eqvsi wlis winaT, rodesac suicidTan Zalian axlos iyo. maSin
jansaRi cxovrebis gamo man uari Tqva narkotikebsa da sxva mavne Cvevebze. msaxiobi problemebis gamo holivudur cxovrebas ar adanaSaulebs da acxadebs, rom es problemebi jer kidev dublinSi mozardobisas daiwyo.
`sirTuleebi didi xniT adre daiwyo, vidre kinoSi gadamiRebdnen. me depresia mqonda, vsvamdi gamofxizlebis gareSe.
amiT ar vamayob. me Cems megobrebze bevrs vsvamdi~, _ acxadebs msaxiobi. misi TqmiT, saSinel Cvevebze uaris Tqma 2006 wels
film `maiamis policiis~ gadaRebis Semdeg gadawyvita.
`gadaRebis dros Wkuidan saerTod SeviSale. oTxi-xuTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi raRac eniT auwereli damemarTa, ubralod,
Wkuidan gadavedi. Semdeg ki ori Tvis ganmavlobaSi vcdilobdi, Tavi wesrigSi momeyvana~, _ ixsenebs fareli.
msaxiobma aseve aRniSna, rom erT-erTi mizezi, ramac cxovrebis
wesis Secvla gadaawyvetina, misi vaJi jeimsia, romelic axla 10
wlisaa. `axloblebi maiamiSi CemTan movidnen da miTxres, rom gaCerebis dro movida. Tavadve vgrZnobdi, rom vkvdebodi. vfiqrobdi,
ra iqneboda Semdeg. amaSi uzarmazari roli jeimsma Seasrula. me
ori varianti mqonda, an Tavi momekla an raRac Semecvala, sabolood saukeTeso gadawyvetileba miviRe~, _ ganacxada msaxiobma.
Chanel sareklamo kampaniisTvis
merlin monros `mkvdreTiT aRadgens~
C
hanel Tavisi sareklamo kampaniisTvis, rogorc wesi, mxolod pirveli donis varskvlavebs irCevs. Tavis droze
Chanel-is produqcias waradgendnen nikol kidmani, bred
piti da odri totu. axla ki legendarulma brendma
gadawyvita, axali simaRleebi daipyros da Tavis axal
sareklamo kampaniaSi CarTos yvela droisa da xalxis
seqssimbolo merlin monro.
`iciT, rom sxvadasxva ucnaur kiTxvas misvamen. magaliTad: `ras icvamT sawolSi? piJamas? Ramis perangs? amaze me vpasuxob: `Chanel No.5~-s. da es simarTlea~, _ aRiara merlin monrom
Soreul 1960 wels.
holivudis varskvlavis swored am gamonaTqvamis aReba gadawyvita Chanel-is modis saxlma Tavis axal sareklamo kampaniaze muSaobisas.
gverdi moamzada
maka svimoniSvilma
premieri
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geds vertmfreni
Seuyvarda
n
ormandiis kunZul jersize
geds,
romelic
qalaqis
gareubnis klubSi binadrobs,
vertmfreni Seuyvarda. man
vertmfrenis mimarT simpaTia
mas Semdeg gamoavlina, rac
megobari dakarga.
klubis TanamSromelTa TqmiT, frinvels ise Zalian Seuyvarda vertmfreni,
37
yvelaze seqsualuri mamakacebi _ britaneTSi, xolo
qalebi kolumbiaSi cxovroben
a
merikulma saitma Misstravel.com-ma 31 000 qalbatoni da 13 000 mamakaci gamokiTxa,
romlebic msoflios masStabiT mogzaurobdnen. gamokiTxvis Sedegad, saitma yvelaze seqsualuri erebis reitingi Seadgina. Tumca unda aRiniSnos, rom gamokiTxuli adamianebi ama Tu im ers mainc im qveynis varskvlavebis mixedviT afasebdnen.
magaliTad, did britaneTs mainc devid beqhemis gamo aniWebdnen upiratesobas,
xolo kolumbias _ sofi vargarasa da Sakiras gamo.
rom misi janmrTelobisa da sicocxlis safrTxis miuxedavad, mudmivad
cdilobda masTan mifrenas. klubis
personali iZulebuli gaxda, gedisTvis frTebi daeWra, raTa is safren
aparats ar miaxloeboda.
geds araerTxel moaWres frTebi,
magram, rogorc ki frTebi ezrdeboda, is kvlav agrZelebda vertmfrenis garSemo frenas. uaxloes
xanebSi klubi ecdeba, geds mewyvile
upovos. dReisTvis klubis teritoriaze is Tavisi saxeobis erTaderTi
warmomadgenelia.
2011 wels presaSi daiwera msgavsi istoria, romelic manqanaze Seyvarebul frinvelze
mogviTxrobda. germaniaSi geds grZnobebi traqtoris mimarT gauCnda. Tumca mas mewyvile
male miuyvanes.
mark cukerbergi dReSi 6 mln dolars gamoimuSavebs
urnalma Forbes-ma mark cukerbergis qoneba 19 mlrd dolarad Seafasa. yvelaze mdidari adamianebis
reitingSi, romelSic msoflios 400
adamiania Seyvanili, Facebook-is
Semqmneli me-20 poziciazea.
ABC News-is informaciiT, mark
cukerbergi dReSi 6 mln dolars
gamoimuSavebs. aRniSnuli monacemebi gamoqveynda GMI 2013 CEO Pay Survey-is reitingSic,
sadac aSS-s yvelaze maRalanazRaurebadi menejerebi moxvdnen. reitingis Tanaxmad, irkveva, rom cukerbergis wliuri Semosavali 2,27
mlrd dolaria da swored amitom is reit-
J
ingis lideria.
cnobilia, rom 2012 wels Facebook-is generalurma direqtorma xelfasisa da bonusis
saxiT 1,99 mln dolari miiRo, rac 16%-iT metia gasuli wlis SemosavlebTan SedarebiT.
sami wlis winaT moparuli stradivaris violino
auqcionze 3,2 mln dolarad gaiyideba
s
tradivaris violino, romelic sami
wlis winaT londonSi samxreTkoreel
meviolines min Cin
kims mohpares, SesaZloa, auqcionze 3,2
mln dolarad gaiyidos. sainteresoa, rom mas
mZarcvelebi 160 dolarad
yiddnen. violino wels samarTaldamcvelebma ipoves.
violino cnobilma italielma ostatma antonio
stradivarma 1696 wels Seqmna. is 2010 wlis noemberSi londonSi min Cin kims kafeSi mohpares.
salaroSi Tanxis gadaxdisas axalgazrda meviolinem SeamCnia, rom instrumenti, romelic
sul cota xniT uyuradRebod datova, gaqra.
maleve daakaves da damnaSaved cnes 36 wlis jon moeni da 14 da 16 wlis ori mozardi.
Tumca instrumentis adgilmdebareoba ver dadginda. magram gairkva, rom dakavebulma
irlandielma ar icoda 313-wlovani violinos namdvili Rirebuleba da mis gayidvas 160
dolarad cdilobda. mZarcvelebi instruments ucnobebs sTavazobdnen, magram misi yidvis
msurveli aravin aRmoCnda.
violino mxolod 2013 wels, inglisis centralur nawilSi, erT-erT saxlSi ipoves. min Cin
kimma instrumentis dakargvis Semdeg stradivaris sxva violino sadazRvevo kompaniis mier
anazRaurebuli TanxiT iyida. amitom napovni violino sadazRvevo kompaniam auqcionze
gaitana, romelic dekemberSi gaimarTeba.
stradivaris es violino ostatis mier Seqmnili 600 instrumentidan erT-erTia. auqcionis organizatorebi imedovneben, rom mas kvlav romelime cnobili musikosi SeiZens da
violino msmenels kvlav gaaxarebs Tavisi jadosnuri xmiT.
10 yvelaze seqsualuri eris reitingi ase gamoiyureba:
1. britanelebi (mamakacebi) _ kolumbielebi (qalebi)
2. irlandielebi (mamakacebi) _ brazilielebi (qalebi)
3. brazilielebi (mamakacebi) _ amerikelebi (qalebi)
4. Svedebi (mamakacebi) _ espanelebi (qalebi)
5. amerikelebi (mamakacebi) _ rusebi (qalebi)
6. espanelebi (mamakacebi) _ holandielebi (qalebi)
7. Sotlandielebi (mamakacebi) _ frangebi (qalebi)
8. frangebi (mamakacebi) _ bulgarelebi (qalebi)
9. berZnebi (mamakacebi) _ Svedebi (qalebi)
10. puertorikoelebi (mamakacebi) _ italielebi (qalebi)
Tanamedrove adamiani
winaparTan SedarebiT 15
wliT adre berdeba
holandielma mecnierebma sensaciuri daskvna
gaakeTes. medicinis miRwevebisa da teqnikuri progresis miuxedavad, Tanamedrove adamiani swrafad
berdeba. mecnierebi amtkiceben, rom dRes
adamianebi 15 wliT swrafad berdebian,
vidre maTi wina Taoba. mecnierTa azriT
ki, es didi SeSfoTebis mizezia.
niderlandebis sazogadoebrivi janmrTelobisa da garemos erovnuli institutis mier kompleqsuri kvleva Catarda. specialistebi 25 wlis ganmavlobaSi
20, 30, 40 da 50 wlis 6 aTas pacients
akvirdebodnen. mecnierebi swavlobdnen
maTi fizikuri datvirTvis dones, diagnozsa da sxvadasxva daavadebis ganviTarebas.
Sedegad mecnierebma daadgines, rom 40
wlis pacientebs Warbi wonis problema
iseve awuxebT, rogorc 55 wlis adamianebs. 30 wlis mamakacebi ki 20 procentiT ufro
swrafad imateben wonas, vidre maTi wina Taoba.
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oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
madis
daqveiTebis
molekuluri
meqanizmi
aRmoCenilia
a
merikelma mecnierebma aRmoaCines molekuluri
meqanizmi, romlis
saSualebiTac organizmi
akon-
trolebs miRebuli sakvebis raodenobasa da sxeulis wonas.
maT daadgines, rom hormoni leptini, romelic pasuxismgebelia madis daqveiTebaze, xels
uSlis AMPK cilis moqmedebas, romelic aqtiurdeba ujredSi mcire rezervisas da gadahyavs is `energiis dazogvis reJimSi~.
miteveba sasargebloa
gulisTvis
m
itevebis unari adamians arteriuli wnevis moulodneli awevisgan icavs da hipertoniis, gulis
Setevisa da insultis risks amcirebs. amis Sesaxeb axal kvlevebze dayrdnobiT acxadeben kaliforniis (san-diego) universitetis mecnierebi.
kvlevebSi 200-ze meti moxalise monawileobda, romelTac sTxoves, gaexsenebinaT
situacia, rodesac, maTi azriT, megobarma
awyeninaT. monawileTa naxevars sTxoves gaexsenebinaT SemTxveva, roca maT wyena daiviwyes. specialuri xelsawyo afiqsirebda
monawileTa arteriul wnevasa da guliscemas. eqsperimentma aCvena, rom moxaliseebs, romlebmac upatiebeli wyena gaixsenes, arteriuli wnevis zrda aReniSnebodaT.
wyenis patieba, SesaZloa, iyos efeqturi meTodi hipertoniis riskis prevenciisTvis, _
daaskvnes mecnierebma.
parkinsonis daavadebas
velosipedi Svelis
a
merikelma nevrologebma daadgines, rom
parkinsonis daavadebis simptomebs mniSvnelovnad amsubuqebs velosipediT siaruli.
lamdris samecniero kvleviTi institutis nevrologis jei albertis jgufis
mier 26 pacientze Catarebuli kvlevis
Sedegad gairkva, rom pacientebi, romlebic ori Tvis
ganmavlobaSi, kviraSi samjer, velotrenaJorebze
varjiSobdnen, ukeT grZnobdnen Tavs.
rac ufro energiulad varjiSobdnen pacientebi, miT ufro dadebiTi aRmoCnda Sedegi.
parkinsonis avadmyofoba aris qronikuli neirodegeneraciuli daavadeba, romelic meore adgilzea alcheimeris daavadebis gavrcelebis Semdeg. daavadebis dros pacients uqveiTdeba gadaadgilebis SesaZlebloba da aqvs vegetatiuri da fsiqikuri aSliloba.
Ramis koSmarebis
mizezi kvebaa
R
amiT koSmarebi gawuxebT?
savaraudod, sadilad,
rogorc ityvian, araswori kerZebi miiReT.
kanadeli mecnierebi
ramdenime wlis ganmavlobaSi moxaliseebis daxmarebiT eqsperiments atarebdnen. aRmoCnda, rom koSmarebi tanjavdaT
maT, vinc sadilad aziur samzareulos irCevda, sakmaod sanelebiansa da cxares.
eqsperimentebma aCvena, rom saneleblebi xels uwyobs sxeulis temperaturis matebas da
provocirebs tvinis gansakuTrebul aqtiurobas. aseT pirobebSi, normaluri Ramis Zili, ra
Tqma unda, ar gamova.
aRgznebuli nervuli sistema kvebavs sizmars, romelic koSmarad iqceva.
dietologebi 2,5 saaTiT adre msubuq vaxSmobas gvirCeven.
fers SeuZlia,
gavlena
iqonios
adamianis
cnobierebaze
f
erebs, romelic
gars gvartyams,
SeuZlia,
garkveuli fsiqologiuri gavlena moaxdinos.
garda amisa, maT
SeuZliaT, azrebi sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT mimarTon, _ amboben britaneTis kembrijis universitetis specialistebi.
kvlevebis periodSi specialistebma TxovniT mimarTes eqsperimentis monawileebs, SeefasebinaT sxvadasxva moraluri dilema. amasTanave, mecnierebs ekranze gamohqondaT garkveuli
kiTxvebi, romelTa fonad Savi, TeTri da feradi ferebi airCies.
rogorc aRmoCnda, adamianebs SeuZliaT, ufro radikalurad isaubron imaze, ra xdeba,
roca maT Tvalwin TeTri an Savi feria, e.i. monoqromuli foni.
specialistebis azriT, Tundac interieris feris detalebsac SeuZlia raRac doziT
gavlena moaxdinos TavSi azrebis formirebaze. magaliTisTvis, kedelze Savi feris xaliCas
SeuZlia uaryofiTi ganwyobis formireba, xolo wiTel fers safrTxisa da mudmivi sifxizlis grZnobis gaRviZeba.
gaubedaoba sazianoa
janmrTelobisTvis
g
aubedaoba zrdis gulis
SeteviT sikvdilis risks,
_ aseT daskvnamde TiTqmis ocdaaTwliani kvlevebis Sedegad mividnen
Cikagos Northwestern-universitetis mecnierebi.
maT Seiswavles saSualo asakis daaxloebiT ori aTasi adamiani. Sedegma aCvena, rom gulis
problemebiT gardacvalebis albaToba gaubedav, dabali aqtivobis mqone adamianebSi 50%iT maRalia, vidre aqtiurebSi.
Tavdapirvelad amerikelma mkvlevarebma sTxoves eqsperimentis monawileebs, SeevsoT kiTxvarebi, romelic miznad isaxavda maTi xasiaTis Sefasebasa da pirovnebis socialuri aspeqtebis garkvevas. daskvnebi aSkaraa: gulze iseTi risk-faqtorebis gaTvaliswinebiTac,
rogoricaa moweva, asaki, zedmeti wona da alkoholis moxmareba, gaubedavi da ukontaqto
adamianebi saTaveSi udganan riskis jgufs.
mizezi, romelic safuZvlad udevs mzard risks, marTlac bevria: cxovrebaSi nebismieri
cvlilebebis dros gaubedavi da TavSekavebuli adamianebi ufro advilad eqvemdebarebian
stress, garkveulwilad xasiaTi moqmedebs tvinis im nawilze, romelic pasuxismgebelia
gulis funqciis swor Sesrulebaze.
mecnierebma ganmartes, rom mravali wlis kvlevebma aCvena kavSiri pirovnebis tipsa da
organul paTologias Soris da mxolod erTi fsiqotipi ar daukavSirda arc erT daavadebas: saubaria tipze, romelic mSvid adamianebs aerTianebs. isini arsebiTad yvelaze janmrTelebi arian.
SiSveli Zili
janmrTelobisTvis
sasargebloa
r
ogorc aRmoCnda,
SiSvlad Zili usazRvrod sasargebloa janmrTelobisTvis. msgavsi Zili
sasargebloa adamianis rogorc fizikuri, ise fsiqikuri mdgomareobisTvis. adamians tansacmlis gareSe gacilebiT kargad
sZinavs, radgan am SemTxvevaSi sxeuli gadaxurebas ar eqvemdebareba da narCundeba misi
bunebrivi temperatura.
napovnia kidev erTi efeqti: Zili tansacmlis gareSe exmareba wonaSi daklebas. es ganpirobebulia SiSveli adamianis gacilebiT mSvidi ZiliT, romelsac stresis hormonis _
kortizolis SemcirebasTan mivyavarT. amasTanave, SenarCunebulia sxeulis energia da kontroldeba SimSilis grZnoba. Zilis darRvevisas matulobs kortizolis done da gaRviZebisas adamians awuxebs SimSilis Zlieri grZnoba, romlis dakmayofileba SeiZleba didi
raodenobis sakvebis miRebiT.
SiSvel Zils sxva upiratesobac aqvs. sxeulis gadaxureba, warmoqmnili tansacmlis Sedegad, arRvevs zrdis hormonisa da melatoninis zemoqmedebas, romelic gaaxalgazrdavebis
procesSi fundamenturi hormonia. sxeulis bunebrivi temperaturis dros kani ukeTesad
izrdeba, ukeTesad gamoiyofa aseve zrdis hormoni.
roca orive partniori SiSveli iZinebs, sxeulis zedapiris Sexebisas oksitocini gamoiyofa, rac maT seqsualur cxovrebas gacilebiT intensiursa da vnebians xdis.
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30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013
verZi 21.03-21.04
rac ufro bunebrivi iqnebiT garSemomyofni miT metad dagafaseben. kargi
periodia axali ideebis gansaxorcieleblad. ecadeT marto gaumklavdeT
problemebs,samsaxurSic dauxmareblad
moagvareT dagrovili saqmeebi. saqmiani
Sexvedrebi, molaparakebebi da xelSekrulebis gaformeba uamrav dros da energias wagarTmevT.
kirCxibi 22.06-22.07
saukeTeso droa uZravi kapitalis
SesaZenad, axali garigebis dasadebad.
es kvira sakmaod warmatebuli da kidev
ufro bednierebis momtania. yvela
saqme, aseve xelSekrulebebi da kontraqtebi sasurvelia gavaanalizoT da
partniorebTan ganvixiloT. es kvira
mogebas gpirdebaT. ecadeT daxmarebis
xeli gauwodeT axlobel adamianebs.
saswori 23.09-22.10
nebisyofas gamoiCenT, rac xels Seuwyobs bevri problemis mogvarebas. Tavs
iCens mravali gadaudebeli saqme-nakleb savaraudoa, rom maTi ganxorcieleba TqvenTvis sasikeTo iqnes. SesaZlebelia vali dagibrunon an fasiani saCuqari miiRoT. advili SesaZlebelia samsaxurSi samarTleblivi da iuridiuli
sakiTxebis gadawyvetam mogiwioT.
Txis rqa 22.12-19.01
kargi droa sarfiani garigebebis,
sabanko operaciebis Sesasruleblad.
yvela saqme am dRes dawyebuli mogebas mogitanT. yvela xelSekrulebasa
da garigebas sifrTxiliT miudeqiT, nu
miiRebT swraf da naCqarev gadawyvetilebas. ar aris sasurveli valis
aReba. yvela wamowyeba warmatebuli
iqneba.
kuro 22.04-21.05
es kvira sakuTari saqcieli gaanalizebas dauTmeT. nu gamoavlenT
agresias. grZelvadian proeqtebs am
nu wamoiwyebT. adamianebTan urTierTobis survili gamogexatebaT.
axali ideebi momavalSi moulodnel
mogebas gpirdebaT. Tamamad SegiZliaT Tqveni azrebi garSemomyofT
gauziaroT.
lomi 23.07-22.08
es kvira sakmarisad kargia mogzaurobis, mivlinebebis, gadadgilebisTvis.
mTlianobaSi xelsayrelia. SesaZlebelia Zveli gadasaxadebis gadaxda
mogTxovon. kargi da warmatebulia
nebismieri mniSvnelovani da umniSvnelo saqmis dasawyebad. naRveli da
mwuxareba droebiTi aRmoCndeba.
sasargebloa finansuri garigebisTvis.
Rriankali 23.10-21.11
Secdomebis daSvebis albaToba maRalia, gamoiCineT maqsimaluri yuradReba.
ar aris sasurveli xelSelrulebebis
gaformeba.saqmian partniorebTan urTierTobisas maqsimaluri yuradReba
gamoiCineT,radgan maTTan urTierToba
Tqvens biznes keTildReobas pirdeba.
gariskeT da mogeba gagiormagdebaT.
merwyuli 20.01-18.02
srul warmatebas miaRwevT biznesSi.
Tqven swor finansur politikas awarmoebT,
magram yovelTvis dgebiT
cdunebis
winaSe.
amitom
ecadeT
gonivrulad gankargoT finansebi. didi
warmatebebis miRwevis albaToba izrdeba. axali SemoTavazebebi da winadadebebi
sasiamovno moulodneloba iqneba. mosalodnelia warmateba karieraSi.
britaneli samxedroebi somalel mekobreebs
britni spirsis simRerebiT aSineben
d
idi britaneTis
samxedro-sazRvao
flotis samxedro
mosamsaxureebi
amerikeli pop-momRerlis britni
spirsis simRerebs afrikis
aRmosavleT sanapiroebze
somaleli
mekobreebis
SesaSineblad iyeneben.
gamocema The Mirror-is informaciiT, mekobreebis
gasagonad momRerlis hitebs
„Baby One More Time”-sa da
„Oops! I Did It Again”-s rTaven.
34 wlis oficris reiCel
ouenis TqmiT, ra ucnauric
ar unda iyos, es mekobreebis
winaaRmdge namdvilad efeqturi sSualebaa. rogorc
praqtikam aCvena, dasavluri
musikisadmi siZulvili meko-
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tyupebi 22.05-21.06
axsovdeT, rom dasaxuli miznis misaRwevad yvela gza ar gamogadgebaT. Tu
dagegmilis ganxorcielebaSi xeli SegeSlebaT, girCevT moicadoT an sxva saqmeze
gadaerToT. win ukeTesi dReebi gelodebaT. dRe emociebiT iqneba datvirTuli,
admianebi Tqvengan saukeTeso xasiaTis
gamovlenas mogTxoven. ecadeT TaviaaridoT konfliqtur situaciebs.
qalwuli 23.08-22.09
Tqveni azrebi savsea gambedaobiT
da gadawyvetilebis misaRebad. Tu
rames CaifiqrebT saqmes ar gadadebT.
magram, frTxilad mTvaris aseTi mdebareobisas, TviTSemoqmedeba, mcdeloba yvelaferi swrafad da dauyovnebliv gaakeToT konfliqtamde
migiyvanT, rac Tqvens materialur
mdgomareobaze cudad aisaxeba.
mSvildosani
22.11-21.12
mZime, damRleli saqmianobis
Semdeg, SegiZliaT Tavs dasvenebis ufleba misceT. materialuri
mdgomareoba stabiluria. ar aris
sasurveli xelSekrulebebis da
garigebebis dadeba, radgan SesaZloa yvelaferi Tqvens sawinaaRmdegod semobrundes. mosalodnelia samuSaos Secvla.
Tevzebi 19.02-20.03
albaToba fulis miRebisa maRalia ara
erTi aramed ramodenime saqmidan. gamoiCineT sidinje. nu midixarT jiqurad
- da Tqven SeZlebT miznis miRwevas.
cvlilebebia mosalodneli, frTxilad
airCieT partniori- savaraudod masTan
urTierToba xangrZlivaT mogiwevT.
SesaZlebelia vali dagibrunon an fasiani saCuqari miiRoT.
breebs aiZulebs rac SeiZleba Sors wavidnen sanapiro
raionebidan.
ouenis TqmiT, es imdenad
efeqturi saSualebaa, rom
maT iaraRis gamoyeneba iSviaTad uwevT. „mekobreebi
britnis xmis gagonebaze, rac
SeiZleba swrafad toveben
iqaurobas”, -ambobs oueni.
sazRvao gadazidvebis usafrTxoebis asociaciis warmomadgenlis stiven jonsis
TqmiT, amerikeli policielebi da samxedroebi wesrigis dasamyareblad xSirad
musikas iyeneben. daaxloebiT
xuTi wlis win guantanamos
yofili patimrebi yvebodnen,
rom maT rok-musikis saSualebiT awamebdnen da es
sasjeli maTTvis yvelaze
saSineli iyo.
britanuli uflebadamcveli organizaciebis monacemebiT wamebis aseTi xerxi
amerikelebis mier bolo 20
welia, rac gamoiyeneba. magaliTad, xmis gamaZliereblebiT CarTuli jguf
Guns’N’Roses-isa da elvis
preslis lirikuli baladebi
panamis samxedro diqtators
manuel noriegas danebebas
aiZulebdnen. mas Semdeg aSSis centraluri dazvervis
s a m m a r T v e l o m
fsiqologiuri brZolis es
meTodi gadaiRo.
zogierTi dazaralebuli
miiCnevs, rom musikiT dasja
ufro uaresi iyo, vidre fizikuri wamebis tradaciuli
meTodebi. aRsaniSnavia, rom
britni spirsis simRerebi
aseve Sedioda am „wamebis
repertuarSi”.
aseTi wamebis Sesaxeb gavrcelebulma informaciam sazogadoebaSi didi aRSfoTeba gamoiwvia. musikosebis nawili aprotestebda Tavisi
simRerebis gamoyenebas sastiki fsiqologiuri zewolis
instumentad.
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1
910 wlis 10 ianvars karga xniT
dasrulda uCa dadianis mSvidi cxovreba. misTvis
swored am sabediswero
dRes,
dRisiT, mzisiT, quTaisis
erT-erT xalxmraval quCaze,
ucnobma pirma revolveris
ori gasroliT sicocxles
gamoasalma aleqsandre Tengizis Ze dadeSqeliani. Tavadi aleqsandre bals qvemo svaneTis mflobel, dadeSqelianTa samTavro ojaxis
Svili iyo.
ruseTis imperiaSi
1905 wlis revoluciis dawyebisTanave, teroristebma
imdeni adamianis sicocxle
Seiwires, rom TiTqosda
aravis unda gahkvirveboda es
sazareli SemTxveva. magram
moxda piriqiT, dadeSqelianis daRupvis peripetiebi
wlebis
ganmavlobaSi
aRelvebda imperiis centralur Tu periferiul
presas da imdroindel sazogadoebas. mkvlelobis
organizeba, pirvelive dReebidanve, imxanobas samxedro
samsaxuridan SvebulebaSi
myof da quTaisSi mcxovreb
uCa dadians dahbralda...
presasac meti raRa
undoda, amaze ukeTesi sensacia ra iqneboda?! svaneTis
samTavro saxlis warmomadgenels, eqvsi Svilis mamas,
sazogadoebisTvis cnobil
pirovnebas, daqiravebuli
mkvlelis
saSualebiT
Tavidan iSoreben _ siyvarulis damatyvevebeli grZnobiT
gonebadabinduli
meuRle babilina erisTavi da
misi mijnuri, saimperatoro
karis brwyinvale oficeri,
peterburgis aristokratiuli salonebis cnobili lovelasi uCa dadiani...
gamoZieba pirvelive
dReebidanve moklulis umcrosi Zmis oTar dadeSqelianis uSualo kontrolisa
da diqtatis qveS warimarTa.
Tumca policiam pirvelsave
dReebSi dahkiTxa uSualod
mkvlelobaSi eWvmitanili,
ramdenime pirovnebis mier
amocnobili, vinme yaCaRi
olifante qiqava, romelic,
ratomRac, maleve gaaTavisufles da karga xans arc moukiTxavT. policiis mier,
aRniSnul mkvlelobamde aTasi ubedurebis Camdeni da
didi xnis ganmavlobaSi ZebnaSi myofi qiqava ki Turme
moklulis umcrosi Zmis mamulSi, sofel farSi imaleboda.
gamoZiebas ar gasCenia kiTxva, al. dadeSqelianis
mkvlelobaSi SeiZleboda Tu
ara, sxva pirovneba yofiliyo dainteresebuli. TanamedroveTa mogonebebiT,
gardacvlili Znelad saguebeli xasiaTis adamiani yofila. amayi, ficxi, smaSi wregadasulad anCxli. sxvaTa
Soris, uCasa da mas didi xnis
nacnoboba akavSirebdaT, isini enaTesavebodnen erTmaneTs
da uCas quTaisSi yofnis periodSi dadeSqeliani mudmivad eswrafoda masTan yofnasa da molxenas. sastumroSi mcxovrebi uCa dadiani
dadeSqelianebis ojaxis sasurveli stumari iyo. Tavad
aleqsandres mouravma gamoZiebas mouTxro, misi batoni
mudmivad konfliqtSi rom
imyofeboda yofil yma-glexebTan. isic faqti iyo,
dadeSqelianze orjer rom
oTxSabaTi, 30 oqtomberi-5 noemberi 2013 #9 (009)
(dasawyisi ix. #7-8)
ganxorcielda Tavdasxma.
erTxel man mohkla Tavdamsxmeli, meored ki TviTon
daiWra mucelSi, magram
iolad gadarCa. ramdenime
mowmem isic gaixsena, rom mkvlelobamde karga xniT adre,
dadeSqelianis amala, sruliad usafuZvlod, sastikad
moeqca erTi svani glexis
ojaxs, aawioka is da TviT
aleqsandrem piradad ise
scema ojaxis diasaxlisi, rom
qali daxeibrda. policiisTvis arc is iyo saidumlo,
baRdadis saxazino satyeo
meurneobis
mmarTvel
dadeSqelians
warsulSi
raRac bneli saqmeebi rom
akavSirebda
gurul
firalebTan, Tumca mkvlelobis wina periodSi es
kavSiri gawyvetili iyo da
uCa dadiani
quTaisis cixe, XX sauk. 10-ani wlebi. politikuri patimrebi eTxovebian gardacvlil TanamebrZols. SuaSi dgas ioseb juRaSvili.
babilina erisTavi- dadeSqelianisa
fotoebi paata qurdovaniZis kerZo koleqciidan
teroristebi mas mosaklavad
dasdevdnen.
policiaze didi gavlenis
mqone moklulis umcrosi
ZmisTvis mkvlelobis sxva
versiebi kategoriulad miuRebeli iyo. rogorc Tanamedroveni aRniSnaven, is maniakaluri ZalisxmeviT eswrafoda, rZalsa da uCa dadians dahbralebodaT danaSauli. vTqvaT iseTi detali,
policiis mier amoRebuli
iaraRis tipi rom ar emTxveoda daRupulis organizmidan amoRebul tyvias, an mowmeebs rom wamdauwum eSlebodaT Cveneba, an mkvlelobaSi
dadanaSaulebuli piri cixeSi gaurkvevel situaciaSi
rom gardaicvala, xolo
ramdenime pirovnebis mier xeldadebuli yaCaRi qiqava,
romelmac sicocxles gamoasalma dadeSqeliani, gareT
daseirnobda _ es kiTxvebi
oTar dadeSqelians ar
aRelvebda.
rodesac tendenciurad Catarebuli gamoZieba
dasrulda, xelisuflebis
winaSe mwvaved dadga sakiTxi,
sad CaetarebinaT procesi.
quTaisi da Tbilisi gamoiricxa, vinaidan mosalodneli
iyo sasamarTlos didi aJiotaJi gamoewvia sazogadoebaSi.
gadawyda
sxdomis
vladikavkazSi Catareba,
romelic 1911 wlis 12 dekembers daiwyo. procesis
dawyebisTanave mkvlelobis
`romantikuli motivi~ calsaxad gamoiricxa da babilina dadeSqeliani gamarTlda,
magram uCa dadiani damnaSaved cnes da oci wliT katorRa miusajes. mZime avadmyofobis gamo babilina
erisTavi-dadeSqeliani sasamarTlo sxdomebs ar daswrebia. mas meuRlis gardacvalebamde ramdenime TviT adre
rTuli operacia hqonda
Catarebuli da mkvlelobis
dResac, meore operaciis
momlodine, saavadmyofoSi
iwva. miuxedavad gamarTlebisa, babilinas problemebi ar
akldeboda. mazli, oTar
dadeSqeliani, Zmebis gardacvalebis Semdeg, sagvareulo mamulis maioratis sruluflebiani mmarTveli Seiqna da ara marto saZulvel
rZals, aramed ZmisSvilebsac
Seuwyvita kuTvnili kanonieri saxsrebis gacema. babilina gamouval situaciaSi
aRmoCnda. uCa dadianma brZola gaagrZela. meore sasamarTlo baqoSi, 1913 wlis 18
seqtembers Sedga. ganaCeni ar
Secvlila. uCa beds ar
urigdeboda da far-xmals ar
yrida... amis Semdeg mas mxolod erTi gza hqonda darCenili, imperiis umaRlesi
sasamarTlo instanciisTvis _
senatisTvis unda miemarTa.
saqmes xeli mohkida peterburgis erT-erTma gamoCenilma advokatma nikoloz
karabaCevskim, romelmac am
CaxlarTuli saqmis safuZvliani Seswavlis Semdeg, ise
mwyobrad daasabuTa Catarebuli gamoZiebis Seusabamoba
imperiis saproceso kodeqsTan da ufro metic, danaSaulebrivi ugulebelyofa
arsebuli faqtebisa da Ziebis tendenciuroba, rom senatma Tbilisis sasamarTlo
palatas miuTiTa, saqme xelaxlad ganexila ukve mosamarTleTa axal Semadgenlobas. sasamarTlos Semdgomi
sxdoma kvlav baqoSi 1914
wlis 10 noembers daiwyo.
procesze nikoloz karabaCevskim iseTi brwyinvale
sityva warmoTqva (ixileT
`Ïðîêóðîðñêèé íàäçîð”, 8
èþëÿ, 2005 ã.), ise detalurad gaarCia am skandaluri
saqmis niuansebi, rom mosamarTleTa korpusi uCa dadianis damcvelis argumentacias erTxmad daeTanxma.
(gagrZeleba
gagrZeleba Semdeg
nomerSi)
teqstis avtori paata qurdovaniZe
premieri

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