HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA Roundtable
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HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA Roundtable
Roundtable August 2012 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA For technology and systems vendors looking to access the opportunities in Asia’s wealth management industry, the first thing they need to do is understand the differences they are likely to encounter when doing business in the region. This includes the approach of local and regional banks and other financial institutions to the analysis and decision-making process for any new purchases relating to solutions. This formed the basis for many of the issues discussed by many of the leading, Switzerland-based technology and software specialists at a roundtable discussion which Hubbis hosted in Zurich in July 2012, around the concept of how to ensure successful implementations in Asia. In particular, it is important for vendors to be aware that the first thing many local firms look at is price and how to convince the business of the need for the solution, rather than what the product does or the benefits it might bring. For further information, please contact: Reto Merazzi Managing Director Head of Technology Solutions Hubbis T 852 2563 8955 E [email protected] Equally vital for vendors to note is the pitfall of simply trying to import a Western-style solution into the Asian market. Tied to this is the need to be present on the ground in the relevant local markets, in order to network and maintain regular contact with clients. Even in some cases, however, and especially in the least developed markets, identifying who has which role in the decision-making process is challenging. Establishing genuine partnerships is also a key way for vendors to make in-roads into the region, said some practitioners, as the foundation for sustainable businesses. Other participants at the roundtable, however, said it is important to gain experience in markets directly before starting to look for a partner. It might then be possible to localise operations, although this requires additional local resources and a dedicated budget to further promote the product and enable lean implementation. Participants also discussed the scope and potential for mobile banking within Asian wealth management, given the different dynamics around the distribution of wealth in Asia and the demographics of wealthy clients. Data was another topic of discussion, given the inconsistent quality available despite the importance of getting relevant data in order to do valuations. In general, participants said they think the greater take-up of technology in Asian wealth management is inevitable, given the need for more comprehensive systems and data-support software to meet the various regulatory requirements and deadlines. Ultimately, however, a lot of success around implementation will likely come down to the engagement of new software and technologies by the advisers themselves, linked in part to differences in leadership styles and cultures. RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 1 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA Chairperson Reto Merazzi Managing Director Head of Technology Solutions Hubbis Participants Markus Benz Head of Global Software Partner Business SIX Financial Information Dr Fred Davies Chief Executive Officer and Chairman Insa Investment Software Memo Dener Chief Executive Officer axeed Pascal Foehn Head of Marketing and Sales Avaloq Thierry Zuppinger Chief Executive Officer Quartal Financial Solutions Peter Staub Chief Executive Officer Allocare Emma Page Key Account Management & Business Development Starmind Raphael Bianchi Associate Partner Solution Providers Management Consulting Gerd Klask Sales Director Quartal Financial Solutions Nicholas Hacking Director, Sales ERI Bancaire PROVIDING SOLUTIONS IN ASIA Reto Merazzi: What does the competitive landscape look like in Asia from a technology and systems solutions point of view? Dr. Fred Davies: When servicing the local market in Asia, the main challenge comes in trying to convince people to spend money on software. There is generally a much greater reluctance than in Europe, for example, to spend money in this area. Nicholas Hacking: Our experience in Asia, especially when dealing with local banks and securities houses, is that the first thing they look at is price. It’s less about what the product does or the benefits it will bring. At the same time, it is important that providers from Europe aren’t simply seen as trying to import a Westernstyle solution into the Asian market, with an attitude that comes across as “knowing better”. It is a very different market. have found there to be a certain relationship in Asia between the IT and business functions. For the IT people, for example, it seems their biggest worry is how to explain to the business side that a previous estimate may change due to new requirements or a change of scope. Reto Merazzi: So what pricing techniques have proven to work well to date in Asia, to potentially serve as a benchmark? Thierry Zuppinger: When it comes Memo Dener: I agree that selling to the issue of pricing, especially in relation to implementation costs, we software solutions in Asia is all about negotiation, given the importance of RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 2 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA pricing. I have found that an effective way to deal with this is to offer customers term licenses. These mean we incur higher ongoing maintenance costs but lower entry costs, as with term licenses we have been able to sign up customers very quickly. It is also very important to be on the ground, to be able to visit the customer once a month. This is also key to increasing the potential for upselling. Reto Merazzi Hubbis It is also very important to be on the ground, to be able to visit the customer once a month. Pascal Foehn: In addition to the challenges of pricing, understanding our value-add in the Asian context and ensuring IP rights are upheld, another challenge in the region is the networking and being able to get close to the right people who can help open doors in new markets. Avaloq is present with fully-fledged offices with sales, services and product localisation capabilities in Singapore and Hong Kong – two financial centres which are mature, sophisticated and also, from a labour market perspective, comparable in certain ways to Switzerland. But in countries like China, Malaysia and Indonesia, for example, to identi- Pascal Foehn Avaloq RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 3 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA fy who has which role in the decisionmaking process is challenging. This is made more difficult given that every country in Asia Pacific is completely different. MOBILE BANKING Reto Merazzi: To what extent is there scope for more development of digital banking in Asia? Raphael Bianchi: After being based in Singapore for four years, until late 2011, I could see that the digital banking aspect of wealth management in Asia was a hot topic, but not many banks started to put in place concrete initiatives. From 2011 until today the larger banks have set the priorities for digital banking higher. When I look at Switzerland today, it reflects somehow the status of 2009/10 in Singapore. There is interest in topics like mobile and social banking but only projects Emma Page Starmind around the classic e-banking take place. usually been initiated in the head office. There is a lot more happening in retail banking, especially in the area of payment- and location-based services. Most banks follow the strategy of being a quick follower, but there is not yet much to follow. I believe that first innovative changes in digital banking might be realised in Asia first, and will later be introduced in Europe. This would be a paradigm shift for European banks, where IT innovations have Pascal Foehn: The potential is huge. For the first time we will have in 2012 more mobile devices than banking accounts in the world. In addition, it is interesting to note that out of the 24 billion downloads of apps from iTunes since it was launched, 8 billion of these are finance-related. So customers want to access financial services via mobile devices. Our experience in Asia, especially when dealing with local banks and securities houses, is that the first thing they look at is price. It’s less about what the product does or the benefits it will bring. Gerd Klask Quartal Financial Solutions RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 4 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA Avaloq launched an innovative and integrated product line, the Avaloq Front Suite, to address the key trend of mobile banking for client advisers, clients and external asset managers in Asia. Nicholas Hacking: It is important to keep in mind that the distribution of wealth is very different in Asia, with so much more of it being held by younger individuals than is the case in Europe. My observations within the private banking sector in Asia is that clients are complaining about the banks not offering mobile services, and some bankers complain about their IT departments not allowing them to offer it. So there is an element of mismatch between the expectations of the endclient, and what is being offered to them today. PARTNERSHIPS Emma Page: I believe it is key to have a well-connected partner in Asia to help open doors, especially for a smaller company like Starmind. Regardless of whether we are Swiss, in each country we need to understand the mentality of the people. As we are currently not active in Asia, we are unaware of the best route to market. Is it best to establish a local subsidiary or to partner with a local, well-established Asian partner. We are currently considering our options, keen to learn from other experiences. Raphael Bianchi: We cooperate with several providers which want to set foot in Singapore. One thing we have noticed is that unless a company is physically on the ground in Asia and able to show off its brand regularly and consistently, then the chance of developing their business is limited. It is key to have a representation in the country and to build up its own network. It is expected that a vendor has a local presence in the country while also having in mind that all Asian markets are different and require local knowledge. Gerd Klask: Understanding the mindset and decision-making process in the local cultures in various markets in Asia is key for European vendors. For example, clients in India make decisions in totally different ways from what happens in Singapore or Hong Dr Fred Davies Insa Investment Software RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 5 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA Kong, and also from what happens in China. So bringing a Western mindset won’t work. Memo Dener: I think it is necessary to gain experience in markets directly before starting to look for a partner. Reto Merazzi: So does this mean that being a Swiss-based vendor is increasing tough in accessing opportunities in Asia? Memo Dener: Regardless of whether we are Swiss, in each country we need to understand the mentality of the people. For example, for individuals in the Singapore wealth management sector, the output is more important than any functionality we can offer via our software. So when we started to explain about the functionality we could offer in terms of rebalancing, there was little interest. But when we started to come out with reports to show what we can deliver in terms of output and what they can send to customers, there was a lot of interest. Everything else is an add-on. Peter Staub: I agree that it is important to start off by showing the results in terms of reports, but this is the same situation as in Europe. Then it is a lot easier to successfully present the software functionality. Unless a company is physically on the ground in Asia and able to show off its brand regularly and consistently, then the chance of developing their business is limited. However, we soon realised that it was a mistake to not have a dedicated team onsite. It is not possible to run a project in Asia without an onsite project manager. So even for relatively small implementations – relative to a core banking migration, for example – we still need to have a full-time onsite presence of three to five people. In terms of developing a long-term workforce on the ground in Asia, we are now looking for people who will be based in Hong Kong or Singapore for one or two years to offer support to clients post-implementation as well as to support new projects. Reto Merazzi: So once initial projects have been done successfully, how can vendors move to the next level of engagement with the market and in a more strategic way? Pascal Foehn: It is necessary to localise, although doing this through the local branch of an international bank is very different that through a purely local player. Our approach will be to forge partnerships in Asia to be able to access the local markets. Thierry Zuppinger: Our client base in Asia mainly consists of the Hong Kong and Singapore subsidiaries of two major Swiss banks, which meant that with some similarities with our work for them in their home market, we did the initial implementation in Asia by using our own resources from Switzerland. Markus Benz SIX Financial Information RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 6 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA RMs still mostly do not like to use technology, and therefore do not know the benefits it can bring. I think there is therefore more potential in other countries in South-east Asia, such as Indonesia, especially as the numbers of wealthy individuals with onshore wealth is much more significant. It is in these types of markets where I think there will be more growth. ENGAGEMENT OF TECHNOLOGY BY ADVISERS After our successful expansion with Swiss banks to the Asia Pacific region we achieved localisation by targeting international banks headquartered in Singapore and Hong Kong. Our local team in Singapore has been ramped up with additional local resources with a dedicated budget to further promote the product localisation and to come up with a local best practice to enable lean implementation. Doing this successfully also requires several senior individuals on the ground. We have been quite lucky, especially in Singapore, in terms of staff staying loyal. In some cases this has been five years and more. This is also partly because we have made the effort to involve them in the culture of the firm without imposing it on them. Dr. Fred Davies: One of the challenges in relation to staffing Asian operations, especially in somewhere like Singapore or Hong Kong, is that management salaries for expats are tremendously high – probably double or triple the amount that companies would be paying back home. Reto Merazzi: What differences are you seeing terms of what advisers in Asia are looking for in comparison with in Switzerland – especially in relation to their engagement of systems as part of their interaction with their clients? Pascal Foehn: An additional observation I had as a former HNWI client adviser and having worked in wealth management in Asia Pacific is that the leadership culture from a desk head in Europe is different from what exists in Asia. Nicholas Hacking: We have always kept our development in Europe, partly due to our desire to protect our IP. But in terms of specifying and understanding what the market needs, we prefer to hire local resources – and often people who have worked in local banks. This then requires us to constantly work on ensuring there is a lot of interaction between our people in Asia and our staff in Europe. We do this by flying people to different offices, to spend time in the other locations, to make sure there is a mix of cultures. Memo Dener axeed RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 7 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA Nicolas Hacking ERI Bancaire Markus Benz: Additionally, as Asia increases its regulatory requirements, we have a greater need for technology solutions to be compliant. Comprehensive systems and data support is necessary in order to meet these regulatory deadlines. This challenge actually presents a good opportunity for vendors with solutions which can help the banks and other wealth management firms meet their requirements. Raphael Bianchi Raphael Bianchi: I agree. More and more responsibility is being placed on RMs from a regulatory and compliance perspective. Technology could support the RM, or realistically the RM’s assistants, in the daily work – for example, tools for individualised reporting and an RM workbench which provides aggregated client data and CRM information could make the daily work more efficient. Combined with built-in alerts and busi- ness rules, technology helps to manage the regulatory burdens as well. However, RMs still mostly do not like to use technology, and therefore do not know the benefits it can bring. It requires leadership from the desk heads, as well as proper training to address the will and skill. Gerd Klask: While I agree that the regulatory environment is in favour of technology vendors from one point of Getting the relevant data is one of the biggest issues for everybody in order to do valuations, and provide sufficient reporting, yet this is not easy to achieve. Solution Providers Management Consulting RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 8 HOW TO ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL SOLUTION IMPLEMENTATION IN ASIA view, we nevertheless need to understand how the regulations will be applied. Given that labour costs are a lot lower in Asia, it is crucial to determine whether meeting regulatory requirements will be approached by the development of new solutions or through simply hiring more people. THE VALUE OF DATA Reto Merazzi: How important is the role, use and application of data in Asian wealth management? Thierry Zuppinger Quartal Financial Solutions Thierry Zuppinger: In the niche in which we operate, which is related to commission and fee management, there is not much standardisation yet, even in Europe. However, we have found that ensuring a certain quality of data is difficult as the availability of this data is limited. Markus Benz: As a data provider, we have experienced high demand for data in Asia. However, market entry becomes a challenge if the application is not available to use the data. We see a need within the private banking business to manage a large universe of equity stocks with local coverage. Therefore, the challenge for us is to be able to go beyond just meeting 80% to 90% of the requirements by overcoming the global and local data coverage barriers to provide a complete solution. Memo Dener: Data is interesting for advisers as well as for customers. While there is so much data already in a portfolio management system, ultimately it needs to be brought together and consolidated on to a platform to provide a quick daily overview of whatever is relevant on an individual basis. This can come from data which exists in existing systems instead of buying a new solution. Peter Staub: The situation is also made more complex because of the growth of family offices and the existence of special assets such as private equity, hedge funds and real estate in their portfolios, which are more difficult to valuate. Family offices normally work with multiple custodians, so they want to collect, consolidate and valuate all the data to view it on one platform. This requires market data and functionality in the software to calculate fair values for certain types of instruments, posing another challenge. Peter Staub: Getting the relevant data is one of the biggest issues for everybody in order to do valuations, and provide sufficient reporting, yet this is not easy to achieve. As an industry, wealth management is actually a long way from industrialisation, both in Europe and in Asia. Peter Staub Allocare RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 9 CONTACT DETAILS AND PROFILES OF PARTICIPANTS Peter Staub Chief Executive Officer Allocare Dr Fred Davies Chief Executive Officer and Chairman Insa Investment Software Memo Dener Chief Executive Officer axeed Peter Staub has led Allocare since September 2004. He is also responsible for sales, marketing and alliances. He joined the company in mid-2002 after spending more than 10 years with PricewaterhouseCoopers as Management Consultant in treasury and asset management. Software development company Allocare AG was founded in 2001 and is part of the Complementa group, which belongs to State Street Corporation. Fred Davies has a first degree in Physics from the University of Nottingham and a PhD from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich. Fred spent 15 years with Sperry Univac in sales and management, finally being vice president and general manager of all English-speaking countries outside the US as well as Eastern Europe, Russia and China. After Sperry Univac, Fred was president of a major Swiss International industrial group. Fred established Insa in 1994 in Zurich to develop and market portfolio management systems. Insa has grown over the years and has a large customer base of banks, institutional clients and independent asset managers. Insa is also very active in the Balkan countries and has an impressive portfolio of banking clients. Insa opened an office in Singapore 18 months ago and is rapidly expanding its client base in South-east Asia. Memo Dener has more than 20 years‘ experience in the financial services industry in Europe, Asia and the Middle East. He is the owner and chief executive officer of axeed, responsible for the global distribution of finance and banking business intelligence applications in the fields of bank platforms for optimised output and information management. Memo’s previous roles include: head of solutions, financial services industry, at Isolutions, where he was responsible for the global distribution of finance and bank applications in the fields of CRM/xRM/DMS/ Sharepoint/bank platforms for optimised output and information management; head of solution sales at Expersoft Systems, responsible for the worldwide distribution of wealth management system PM1e; and, also at Expersoft, head of project management and consulting, responsible for all projects worldwide in the financial services industry. Memo was also a member of the board at Expersoft. Contact details: E [email protected] Contact details: E [email protected] Contact details: E [email protected] RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 10 CONTACT DETAILS AND PROFILES OF PARTICIPANTS Markus Benz Head of Global Software Partner Business SIX Financial Information Emma Page Key Account Management & Business Development Starmind Raphael Bianchi Associate Partner Solution Providers Management Consulting Markus Benz serves as head of global software partner Business at SIX Financial Information. He is responsible for all SIX Financial Information software partners throughout the whole Emma Page held various sales and business development roles during her nine years at Microsoft in Switzerland. Besides managing Microsoft’s authorised distribution channel, she most recently transformed and lead their inside sales organisation. Before joining Starmind, Emma was part of IBM Switzerland’s software group, were she managed the largest software resellers and drove business development for Midmarket, Application Specific Licensing (ASL) and Cloud Computing. She holds a BSc in Business Administration with Major in General Management from the University of Applied Science in Zurich, and is currently enrolled at the University of Applied Sciences of Southern Switzerland studying for her MSc in Business Administration with Major in Innovation Management. Raphael Bianchi is associate partner at Solution Providers Management Consulting, an established Swiss management consultancy advising its clients in the development of strategies and their operative realisation as well as supporting their technical implementation. Raphael started his consulting career in his own company, providing services and decision support systems based on artificial intelligence. In 2004 he joined Solution Providers in Switzerland as a consultant, and relocated 2007 to Singapore to establish its business in Asia, where he spent four years in the role of co-head Asia. In 2012, Raphael relocated back to Switzerland. Raphael studied Economics at the University of St. Gallen and received his Master degree in Economics and Information Technology at the University of Zurich in autumn of 2003. He is married with twins and passionate about his family, soccer and hiking. partner lifecycle. This includes assessment of possible partners, contract negotiation, relationship management and escalation management. With more than 30 years’ experience in the financial sector and his extensive knowledge of the banking industry, Markus ensures that SIX Financial Information partners get the most out of their solution with SFI data. A former banker, working in the securities business at Credit Suisse, he is well-versed with how the banking and securities markets operate. Contact details: E [email protected] Contact details: E [email protected] Contact details: E [email protected] RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 11 CONTACT DETAILS AND PROFILES OF PARTICIPANTS Pascal Foehn Head of Marketing and Sales Avaloq Thierry Zuppinger Chief Executive Officer Quartal Financial Solutions Pascal Foehn is head of marketing & sales HQ in Avaloq. He joined the company in 2010 and is responsible for sales support activities, business intelligence, and marketing and communication. He worked for more than 12 years for a large Swiss bank in Hong Kong and Switzerland in leading positions in global marketing and sales. Prior to joining Avaloq, he acted as a HNWI client adviser, managing an international client book of more than CHF300 million. He holds a PhD in Marketing from the University of Zurich. Thierry Zuppinger is the chief executive officer at Quartal Financial Solutions, a leading provider for commission and fee management solutions to the wealth management, asset management and fund industries, with more than 50 clients worldwide. Thierry has a background in finance and economics and has studied management at HEC in Lausanne, Switzerland. He has been with Quartal for more than six years and has successfully contributed to the company’s recent growth in Asia. Contact details: E [email protected] Contact details: E [email protected] RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 12 CONTACT DETAILS AND PROFILES OF PARTICIPANTS Gerd Klask Sales Director Quartal Financial Solutions Nicholas Hacking Director, Sales ERI Bancaire As part of the executive team at Quartal Financial Solutions, and in his role as sales and marketing director, Gerd Klask is responsible for the worldwide sales, marketing and business development activities. Gerd has a track record of more than 25 years of relevant experience within the financial services industry, including senior executive roles as managing director at Diebold, SunGard and CSC in Switzerland. He holds a master’s degree in computer science. Nicholas Hacking is currently a director with ERI Bancaire. Based in Geneva, Switzerland, Nicholas has overall responsibility for ERI’s sales activities internationally, and is also responsible for its operations in the US / Carib- Contact details: E [email protected] bean, the Middle East and Asia Pacific, as well as the UK and Channel Islands. He has been with ERI for almost 15 years. ERI’s software application, the Olympic Banking System, is specifically designed for financial institutions, especially in the private banking, wealth management, fund and investment management areas. Prior to joining ERI, Nicholas worked for several IT companies, and in client-facing and operational roles in the wealth management operations of several international banks. Contact details: E [email protected] RETO MERAZZI | MANAGING DIRECTOR, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS | T 852 2563 8955 | E [email protected] 13