January 1, 2012 - Trembling Hills Wine Tasters Club

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Inmate Ramblings 2012
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2012-01-01 00:00:14 HAPPY 2012!!
2012-01-01 10:33:04 Happy New Year !
Highly recommend the Hunter III Sauv Blanc on WL free shipping offer................it is a fantastic wine that pairs
well with cheeses and seafood dishes like grilled shrimp........the nose alone is worth the $15 ! This and John
Anthony are great examples of how incredible Sauv Blanc can be made in CA (these are quite tropical fruit
focused rather than grassy).
Hope the hangovers are not too bad for those that were overserved (amazingly, I am not among that crowd!).
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22378 luddite
2012-01-01 11:24:02 @tony O
thx for the tip. In for 4.
I'm starting to dig quality SB's
2012-01-01 11:43:17 @John O': I bought some of that locally and think I paid around $20 for it ..............really tasty stuff, hope you like
it.
2012-01-01 14:13:29 Happy New Year and a new month and wine budget! For those that love dessert wines and don't mind paying for
it:
(1) 1995 Royal Tokaji Tokaji Aszu Essencia (500mL) $165 WS 94 points
(2) 1999 Royal Tokaji Tokaji Aszu 6 Puttonyos Mezes Maly (500mL) $175 WS 95 points
"This is a three-pack. Two bottles of the wintergreen infused, First Growth Mezes Maly. One more of our Aszu
Essencia nectar. Regular price of $515. Today, just $299. Happy New Year."
22379 WaitinginManassas
Trembling Hills Archive
http://www.wineaccess.com/store/royaltokajiwinecodirectdecember2011/index.html
2012-01-01 16:58:46 Happy New Year to my fellow inmates! May the year to come find you happy, healthy, employed, and may you
never open a bad bottle of wine this year! Cheers!
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2012-01-01 20:15:11
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=777208" rel="nofollow">2008 Keesha Vineyards
Petite Sirah Keesha Vineyards</a> - USA, California, Central Valley, Lodi (1/1/2012)
Tried this wine over a year ago and was not impressed. Had it again tonight and it was rocking! Purple/Black in
color. Beautiful nose of blackberry, chocolate, and cassis. I found myself not drinking it, rather just taking in it's
intoxicating bouquet. After taking the plunge, it was beautifully viscous, but not jammy. While it was fruit
forward, it wasn't just fruit. The palate was a mirror of the nose with layer upon layer of deep, dark berries,
swimming a vanilla/cream, and a finish of dark chocolate. It was dessert in a glass, without the sweetness. Four
of us were drinking this tonight and were amazed with how it transformed from it's earlier rough edges. Killer
bottle for just under $10.
(91 points)
Posted from <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com" rel="nofollow">CellarTracker</a>
22385 mr21cbs
2012-01-02 12:19:50 Happy New Year to All. We had an amazing time with family and friends over for the New Year Eve and night.
Went to bed around 4pm. Too much good and not so good (but nobody cared at that time anymore) wine was
consumed. We were singing old Russian songs, dancing, kids were playing video games and having a ton of fun.
My brother-in-law brought a bag of confetti, it's been two days of vacuuming and we still find the darn things
everywhere. (it seemed like a good idea at the time, TWSS).
The kids went through a half a case of non-alcoholic sparkling wine, so the future of wine drinkers is in good
hands. Great food was served. Not much of a hangover... This is something of a tradition for us, as the story goes:
"As much fun as you have greeting the new year, that enjoyable, happy, and prosperous it will be."
I truly wish that everyone here would have as great of a year as the crazy fun we've had.
22386 vinmoet
2012-01-02 13:02:55 Happy New Year inmates! I was trolling about this a.m. and found what could be a great everyday Bordeaux:
http://www.empirewine.com/wine/chateau-clement-saint-jean-medoc-2009/
I have not had this wine. But, the wine reviewer, Neal Martin, has a marvelous palate and awarded it 90 points.
This is 16 bones with shipping folks. We will be seeing more and more of these kinds of bargains for 2009 which
is a great vintage from the bottom up.
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2012-01-02 14:43:31 @vinny: What say you to this one?
2009 90+ Point Bordeaux Médoc Sampler
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22389 vinmoet
http://www.garyswine.com/fine_wine/france/15417.html
2012-01-02 15:35:42 Belated New Year greetings to all residents of the Hills.
Hoping all inmates have a great New Year. Cheers!
2012-01-02 18:06:50 Luddite, the only one I've had on that list is the Lannessan which is consistently a nice wine for the money. None
of Gary's are rock stars but the reviews speak for themselves. Neal Martin and Jancis Robinson have similar
palates. You can count on his notes. Buying the package seems like a good way to check them all out and settle
on a house wine. I have half a dozen 3 liter Lannessan's on futures order (about $80 a piece). Easy party wines.
We should have a nice window between now and this Fall to find tons of Bordeaux QPR's and trophy wines.
Can't say enough about how great '09 is. '10 is a great investment vintage but we won't have as much QPR going
on and you guys know that I'm not at all a fan of '11. So take advantage of this window.
22390 vinmoet
2012-01-02 18:15:58 Sometime back there was discussion about right bank style Cali. I mentioned that I would post some
recommendations from WE:
2008 White Cottage Ranch Estate Cabernet Franc 92pts
Arger-Martucci 2006 Cab Franc 92pts
Monticello 2008 Estate Grown Cab Franc 92 pts
Conn Creek 2006 Limted Release Cab Franc 91pts
Cinnabar 2008 Mercury Rising 90 pts (a "blend of the five major Bordeaux varieties")
Folkway 2007 Relevator 90 pts (mostly merlot)
Girard 2008 Artistry 90 pts
Fidelity 2009 Crazy Creek Estate 88pts (mostly merlot)
22392 BrunelloBob
22393 vinmoet
22394 WineKnurd
I am not familiar with these wines, just reporting what WE had to say...
2012-01-02 19:06:58 You guys almost had me coming over to the dark side, but that Gary's sample pack is now out of stock...
2012-01-02 19:20:08 BBob: The Bordeaux is an energy field created by all living things, it surrounds us, it penetrates us, it binds the
galaxy together.
2012-01-02 20:44:10 BBob I find your lack of faith disturbing.....
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2012-01-02 21:02:18 Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kids.
22396 luddite
"In Sangiovese we Trust"
2012-01-02 21:30:18 @B²: I don't mean to pry, but does SPOT!! have a favorite wine?
22397 BrunelloBob
2012-01-02 21:41:23
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2012-01-03 13:39:17
luddite
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NY Pete
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@Ludds: BRILLIANT!!
"Cows, the popular bovines behind beloved wine accompaniments steak and cheese..."
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(Spott!! will drink anything that ships for Free, but seems to have a penchant for shiraz with viognier blended in.
Something about the creaminess the viognier adds... Spott!! is an idiot... )
the rhone blends are strong with this bovine...
vinmoet - That Clement St. Jean is definitely an excellent wine for the money. I am working on finding more well
rated, easy drinking 2009s at sub $20 prices. Thanks and happy new year to all!
@Schmitty: Thinking of you today. Hope 2012 brings peace and healing to you and your family...
Any thoughts on today's Cindy nooner?
time to change the daily QPR ... :)
Any thoughts on the current LB offering:von Hovel 2007 Scharzhofberg Riesling Spatlese from the Riesling
experienced inmates? It seems like a good gamble based upon CT notes alone.
Any inmates near Alexandria, VA ? David O'Reilly is doing a wine dinner at Brabo Restaurant (not sure of the
date, but the wines and food look great !). If interested, let me know and I can send you the info.
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2012-01-03 14:04:07
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2012-01-03 15:07:34 update: dinner is 2/7/12......let me know if you want info (NaH, WIM, etc,)
2012-01-03 16:42:25 Adam, you might be able to move more of these if you would move them to the free shipping page
http://www.empirewine.com/wine/chat-haut-brion-grand-cru-pessac-leognan-2005/
22416 David T
22420 BaroloDude
Free shipping on a $12K case of wine could be just the ticket...
2012-01-03 19:21:37 @WIM I just popped the Norton you gave me- I LOVE the nose- such nice funk which I really enjoy! The flavors
are quite simple, red fruit & spice, so I think I'm going to spend the rest of the evening saving my liver
& pleasuring my olfactory system instead :P Thanks again for helping me reach my doppel (though I'm still
far behind you!)
2012-01-04 00:25:45 Every time I see a RDD on Cindy I hope for Atalayas again..... Alas no.
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2012-01-04 08:26:03 With the beginning of a new year it is interesting to reflect on the 2011 in terms of some site statistics. A
disclaimer here is that the JetPack (that now captures the stats) was in effect for just a month or so, but even in
such a short period of time we have some interesting numbers to overanalize:
These were your 5 most active commenters:
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BrunelloBob 53 comments
vinmoet 50 comments
luddite 45 comments
WineKnurd 40 comments
BuffaloLou 33 comments
For the rest of the report go here: http://jetpack.me/annual-report/18735463/2011/
22422 BrunelloBob
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22426 BaroloDude
2012-01-04 11:39:32 I talk too much...
2012-01-04 12:26:33 BrunelloBob, this is a forum, you should be proud! Keep the chatter going 8)
2012-01-04 12:43:00 @mr21cbs... idea for the site...
Especially during times when i am away from TH for a few days... when i come back to the site, i want to start
reading comments from where i left off last visit (or even as proxy, from my last post).
Is there a way to simply "bookmark" the page of comments that I last read or where I last posted? Otherwise i
find myself scanning backwards thru pages for minutes before i finally start reading...
22428 BuffaloLou
Like a place to enter your alias and get taken to your most recent post, or to tag a page somehow and have a
cookie on the browser that takes me back to that page somehow... i dunno.
2012-01-04 12:43:41 @TonyO Send me the info, not sure if I'm in town that week or not, but if the menu is inviting enough I may be
able to make it! Thanks for thinking of me!
@DavidT Glad you liked it, it's been the only Norton I actually managed to enjoy. Guess we'll need to check out
Barrel Oak Winery on your next trip to my neck of the woods.
Trying to drink more and buy way less, goal is to get below 1K in inventory before the end of 2012. Going to be
tough, as I haven't had any wine since NYE (taking muscle relaxers).
2012-01-04 12:51:00 +1 on BDude's idea. That would be tremendously handy!
22429 mr21cbs
Stay warm!
2012-01-04 12:59:12 I will add the permanent links to the comments after I get back from vacation, which is January 15th.
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2012-01-04 14:27:44 @wim: details are probably easiest to access on the FB page of Owen Roe or at their website;
www.owenroe.com
22432 luddite
I hope that helps ! Looks like a great night !
2012-01-04 15:19:18 @mr21cbs: Have a great vacation you've earned it!!
@WiM: From: http://www.braborestaurant.com/
Owen Roe Grand Tasting and Wine Dinner Event!
Join us for a "Grand Tasting" of 3 flights of wines presented by David O'Reilly, Winemaker and Owner of Owen
Roe.
The "Grand Tasting" will be followed by a 5 course tasting menu featuring the best wines of the Pacific
Northwest. See the complete menu under the "menus" tab! The cost is $125 per person + tax + gratuity.
Don't miss this amazing dinner and wine presentation! Reservations are limited, so make yours now by calling
703.894.3440.
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2012-01-04 20:49:21 2004 Gran Elias Toro on WTSO, $40 bones.
How did we outpost BLou? :)
2012-01-04 20:59:55 @Vinmoet Forgive me if this has been asked or you have posted this before though I couldn't find it in the
archices- what's your opinion on 09 Sauternes overall? Wine Spectator released some initial scores on 09s and
what struck me most was how inexpensive they seemed to be, at the suggested retail no less- some of the big
names for $30-60 per 750, almost all <$100 and even d'Yquem was <$200?! I think I'm going
to need to stock up...
@BLou Have you opened any of the 06 Masi Amarone that was on Cindy a while back? I had my first tonight
& wasn't too impressed, it didn't remind me of the general style of the very few Amarone I've had before.
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2012-01-04 21:08:09 Ha the CW wine tonight has the "best price on the web" listed at $4.00. Oops!
2012-01-04 21:09:04 DavidT, looks like Brandon W hears your call....
2012-01-04 21:14:58 and it looks like I broke CW...
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2012-01-04 21:20:14 For you Cognac enthusiasts out there (from Harper's):
http://www.harpers.co.uk/news/news-headlines/11533-remy-martin-discontinues-existing-vsop.html
Rémy Martin discontinues existing VSOP
Written by Laura Heywood
Wednesday, 04 January 2012 14:22
Rémy Martin is withdrawing its original VSOP from the European market and launching a mature cask finish
expression in its place.
The brand extension sees 20% of the Cognac house's eaux-de-vie aged for an additional 12 months in Limousin
mature oak casks that are over 20 years old.
Rémy Martin VSOP Mature Cask Finish will be available exclusively in Europe, while other markets around the
world will continue to be allocated the existing VSOP.
The mature cask finishing process has been developed to produce "a well-rounded, smooth Cognac with
enhanced fruity notes", according to Rémy Martin, and caters for changing European palates.
Chief executive Patrick Piana told Harpers: "It's our responsibility to continue to innovate and invest in Rémy
Martin and Europe. We want to bring back VSOP into a young, adult consumption mode."
He added that the changes follow extensive research into the taste preferences of existing Rémy Martin VSOP
drinkers and non-Cognac purchasers.
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A "heavyweight" marketing campaign including PR, advertising, on-pack neck collars and sampling activity will
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a Sansonnet. This was the first time they offered an Amarone. Perhaps I missed it.
2012-01-04 21:59:09 @Lou Yeah, that's the one & you are correct on the pack. I just looked back & you posted several
positive thoughts on the offer in the forum thread, though never said you picked any up. BTW I'm up to at least
three bottles set aside for you to try whenever you make it down this way, let me know if anything looks open
now that the calendar has turned :)
2012-01-04 22:03:22 For NY Pete and other impatient inmates, I will be on vacation and will not be posting any QPRs until January
15th. Enjoy your old favorites. See you soon. Cheers!
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2012-01-04 22:28:01 David T: Historically it seems that what is good for red Bordeaux stinks for Sauternes. 2009 is the exception.
Every harvest I taste at Chateau Guiraud, one of the premier cru Chateaux. Xavier Planty is an owner and is the
principal winemaker. Yeah, I'm name dropping but this lowly inmate does his tasting there at harvest with the
winemaker and support staff...it all gives you much more insight and appreciation. As he put it, in 2009 we had
both quantity and quality. 2001 just had the quality. By the way, their 2001 is the value play of that vintage. I
have hand picked Guiraud as my go to Sauternes which is why I always taste there no matter what. They are
located between the Village of Sauternes and Y'Quem which is a mile down the road. They have terroir, passion,
and enough capital to do it right and still bring (relative) value.
I don't put 2009 on par with 2001, but it is an outstanding vintage which is very close and which also produced a
prodigious amount of juice (that being essentially unheard of). I think the pricing is primarily due to the quantity
and also because Chinese have not gone as bonkers for white as they have for red. Thus, I think 2009 Sauternes
is a great value play.
I didn't find you a great vintage summary, but this one gives you a decent overview of what happened weather
wise: http://www.thewinedoctor.com/tastingsformal/bordeaux2009sauternes.shtml
22446 TonyO
2012-01-04 22:52:10 Amazing how everyone talks about "heat hold shipments" but not much talk about the cold weather. I received
two shipments today (one from Last Bottle and one from WL) and that bottles were COLD !! We are hitting
single digits overnight. In the past, I have seen corks pushed out of the top and actually had a bottle leak in the
box to the point that the UPS guy asked "what's in the box, a liver" ? Hmmm, was that a joke or a reference to
my excessive alcohol related parcels ???????
22447 BuffaloLou
2012-01-04 23:48:21 @TonyO - There was a lot of discussion on the forum a year ago about cold shipping. I believe it's generally
accepted that so long as the wine doesn't freeze, it should be OK. Freezing point will be lower than for water,
and it's dependent on the alcohol content. IIRC, it was "around" 18F for most red wine. Of course Oz Shiraz
should be good to near zero... LOL!
2012-01-04 23:50:04 @David T - Spring!
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2012-01-05 07:39:10 Hey Vinny, Guiraud is good stuff. I got hooked on Suduiraut after tasting their 2001.
Maybe you can answer a question I have always had about Sauternes and Barsac.Generally when weather is bad
for dry wines its good for the sweet wines, since you need climate conditions to be right for botrytis to go (humid
and warm). 2001 and 2007 are perfect examples of this.
But for 2009, how can you get great wines for both? Is it that the dry wine grapes can be picked early / on time
and then allow the sweet grapes extra time to hang to develop noble rot?
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Thanks for the help!
2012-01-05 08:24:07 WK: For botrytis you want cool and humid. Sauternes gets the benefit of two rivers which provide part of the
humidity. They also need rain. On average, they don't harvest until mid October and take 4 weeks to do it. They
systematically go through the vineyard picking the gnarlyest looking grapes. They then go back through again
and pick again after more rot sets in. For all of this to happen, they need cold rainy weather. Absent the rain, no
rot.
In 2009 they actually thought that they would have no Sauternes because of the lack of rain. It was an early
harvest and suddenly, in late September, early October they had perfect conditions and had to pick everything in
a two week time period instead of 4 weeks.
2012-01-05 08:35:43 Thanks Vinny. I figured it had to be something where the rains came after dry wine harvest although I imagine
that the very best vintages can't be a "compromise" ala 2001 and 2007.
2012-01-05 09:23:14 WK: Historically in the hot, dryer years which make great red wine vintages we have had poorer conditions for
noble rot. Dry, warm weather meant little to no noble rot. Some years they only get pockets of rot, others they
get perfect conditions and tons of rot. 2009 gave them almost perfect conditions in an unusually short time
frame with a huge crop. So, they had to harvest quickly and had lots to harvest. 2005, 2003 and 2000 had big
crops but less noble rot so we had OK quality, plenty of fruit, but minimal fruit affected by noble rot. 2001 had a
pretty good fruit crop and great rot conditions giving us the best quality and OK quantity. 2001 had better fruit
to start with than 2007. 2007 had great noble rot conditions but more marginal fruit quality. 2001 really is the
benchmark year for Sauternes. The rot in 2009 is not as good as 2001 but it is still very good. The fruit in 2009 is
spectacular. The quantity is bountiful. Its my view that '09 is the second best vintage for the decade but the best
QPR of the decade.
2012-01-05 20:57:04 Mark your calendars...only 30 days til WORLD NUTELLA DAY, Sunday, Feb.5, 2012.
2012-01-05 22:34:37 Any thoughts on the Nicolas Potel Maison Roche De Bellene Beaune Les Aigrots 1er Cru on WTSO? 27.99
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2012-01-06 00:06:11 Speaking of Sauternes, from wine exchange (winex.com):
Value, as we have always said, is a relative term, even if it applies to what a goodly number of knowledgeable
folks would consider the greatest dessert wine on earth. Of course there are many of you that will think we must
be nuts to try and tell you that something that costs this much is a deal. But that’s exactly our point. Just like a
substantial discount on a Ferrari, or half price Prada shoes (real ones, mind you), this outstanding rendition of
d’Yquem can be considered very attractively priced vis-a-vis other d'Yquems.
The subject came up as we were reading the Wine Advocate reviews on this wine. The piece described this as the
potentially forgotten d’Yquem, this 2008 sandwiched between the more critically acclaimed 2007 and 2009
vintages for Sauternes. Maybe we’re just too pragmatic. But we have a little of the 2007 on the shelf at $600,
and the latest quote we have on the 2009, which still won’t be here for a while, puts it over $800 even with the
euro 10% lower than it was a year ago! This one costs less than a half bottle of the 2007!
Now, true, the 2007 did score higher…by a point (‘97’ vs. ‘96’). But, if you think about it, that is a pretty darned
expensive point. Some may say that, because it isn’t from the appropriately historic vintage, it won’t last as long.
That may be as the conjecture in the Advocate review suggests the 2008 may not live much beyond its 40th
birthday. This isn’t something that’s like d’Yquem at a better price. This is d’Yquem. If you play at this level, this a
golden opportunity while it lasts. Quantities are limited.
Special Offer
YQUEM 2008 SAUTERNES
score: WA 96
add to cart $249.99 add a case $2999.88
22463 vinmoet
From Wine Advocate:The 2008 Yquem, now in bottle, has a nuanced bouquet, with scents of clear honey, lime
2012-01-06 10:51:55 Thanks Blou. I've bought it for the kids' birth years and have a few bottles for special events but overall, its too
rich for my blood. Any of the premier crus, in particular, the Guiraud produce excellent quality at a fraction of
the price. The deal you found is a pretty good one in this market.
They have families who are dedicated to each patch of the vineyard. These same folks maintain the vines and
pick the grapes. The hyper attention to detail is part of the justification of the price.
22465 BrunelloBob
Everywhere else, they will use a combo of regulars and migrant pickers.
2012-01-06 14:35:31 I just missed an interesting offer on Empire...
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2012-01-06 15:50:31 B² - that was a sweet offer that ran out quickly.
22469 AdamEmpire
2012-01-06 16:03:10
22471 John O'
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2012-01-06 23:54:53
2012-01-06 23:57:39
2012-01-07 11:22:39
They didn't even put it up on Twitter as they usually do.
BrunelloBob - That offer went much quicker than I ever could have imagined! Sorry you missed it. Look for more
offers in the future, both the Ship4Free and the Ship12Free should be back regularly now that the holidays have
passed.
Major, major props to Last Bottle for the 2006 McCrea Syrah splits.
Unbelieveable QPR.
TGIF
Baxter? You ate the whole cheese wheel and pooped in frig? I am not mad but very impressed!
Vinny, what do you think about these Bordeaux rankings:
Dry Quality top 3 vintages of the decade- 2000, 2005, 2009
Sweet Quality top 3 vintages of the decade- 2001, 2007, 2009
Dry QPR vintage of the decade- 2003
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Sweet QPR vintage of the decade- 2009
2012-01-07 13:33:10 I'd say that's dead on WK. I'd be tempted to differ on 2009 vs. 2003 for dry QPR...I think the volume is that big in
2009 and it has the longevity of 05 with much of the accessibility of 03 without the overly fleshy fruit. Pricing is
the challenge but I think some QPR is hitting the shores. Still too early to tell yet though. So I'd stick with your
summary.
2012-01-07 17:48:57 Right, not quite enough data on 09 yet as the dry "big guns" haven't arrived here yet, but I am super impressed
with the 2 cru bourgeois I have had.
2012-01-07 18:12:44 WineKnurd - I drank an excellent Cru Bourgeois last night - the Chateau Lilian Ladouys 2009. It was excellent right
away with the layers unfolding over time. Very good stuff. Vinmoet mentioned the Clement Saint-Jean recently
which is another delicious one thats drinking great now but will be even better in a few years.
2012-01-07 18:47:01 So Adam...How about a nice 2009 Cru Bourgeois deal for the inmates of Trembling Hills? ;)
2012-01-07 20:06:42 @brooks - What happened to Lou Reed?!! "You got some 'splaining to do, Lucy!"
2012-01-07 20:19:09 Tonight: BenMarco Malbec 2000 - On the pnp, it had some seriously nasty funk on the nose, but it blew off in a
few minutes. So far, quite nice! More to follow...
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2012-01-07 20:34:41 Chateau Lilian Ladouys is owned by a guy who made his money from the chip on credit cards. He essentially
created the Chateau and named it after his wife. Invested a TON of money to make a simple, modern style wine
that would appeal to critics (I write that as factual and not as a criticism). Its a cost effective, well crafted wine.
Not rock star or prestigious stuff.
OK. This is how good I am:
22489 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s5lmB3ABKw
2012-01-07 20:47:27 <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=151726" rel="nofollow">2000 Dominio del Plata
BenMarco V.M.S.</a> - Argentina, Mendoza (1/7/2012)
C: opaque garnet
N: barnyard, earth, tobacco leaf, anise, chinese five spice,
P: mouthwatering acidity, blackberries, chocolate,
F: long
Had some serious funk on the nose on the pnp. Blew off after a few minutes. Afterwords, it's perfume filled the
room; so much so that my wife asked what she was smelling! Beautiful wine that is drinking very well at this
stage. Tannins are nicely integrated, but present in the background giving nice support to the fruit. Fills the
mouth with flavors that last and last. (92 points)
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2012-01-08 13:48:57 Pontet-Canet 2008 mags at my local costco for 125...seems like a great buy! Any thoughts?
2012-01-08 15:47:49 @scott w
buy the whole lot
2012-01-08 15:51:58 Thanks for the heads up on the Lilian Ladouys Adam (and the background VM). I will keep and eye out for it.
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2012-01-08 16:10:29 Bordeaux Rankings part deuxWorst 3 dry quality vintages of the decade- 2004, 2002, 2007
Worst dry QPR vintage- 2008 (prices super inflated IMO)
Worst sweet QPR vintage- 2006 (to be fair I am calling this one based only on a Suduiraut tasting)
I didn't do a worst sweet quality vintage because they will always be good, as Vinny was describing its the
quantity that suffers (at least for the classified growths).
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Vinny and everyone please feel free to chime in on this one.
2012-01-08 16:35:18 i have never been too worried about vintage reports... it is naive to think that every chateaux in a region is
affected the same as the vintage report indicates. regions are too big, have too many diiferences in elevation,
soil, wind, sun exposure, drainage, mediating factors, micro climates, etc... to be lumped into one over
generalization. i have had some brilliant 04s. the chateaux gloria is a star in 04 and has outperformed the
majority of 1st growths i have had and the pavie and pavie maquin are nothing short of sublime
2012-01-08 16:41:49 Its all opinion JoeG, and a generalization, an average after you throw out the highs (the Gloria's and the Pavie's)
and the low's (like the 02 Dauzac that tasted like bell peppers and ash). Its like the Olympics, toss out the highest
and the lowest and average the rest. Feel free to share what you consider the best and worst of Bordeaux
throughout last decade.
2012-01-08 16:48:43 Steelers FG, now its TEBOW TIME!!!!!!!
2012-01-08 16:54:22 tebow time came and went
2012-01-08 17:07:02 BoredDough: That's the place that keeps trying to make wine as good as the Italians, Right?
:lol:
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2012-01-08 18:39:08 <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=493841" rel="nofollow">2004 Saviez
Zinfandel</a> - USA, California, Napa Valley (1/8/2012)
C: deep, deep, ruby/black
N: aromatically challenged, but what did come out was ripe black fruits & licorice
P: loaded w/ black fruits, tobacco, vanilla, beef/jerky, licorice
F: long
Beautifully balanced with plenty of acid to go with the gorgeous black fruits. Aromatically shut down. Would have
scored higher with more aromatics. Enough tannins to support, but not too many. Very smooth on the palate.
Purchased in two groups, once for $16, the other for $17. Killer QPR for either price! (90 points)
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2012-01-08 18:44:30 Speaking of Boardough, 08 La Croix on WTSO at $40 / pop
2012-01-08 18:46:54 From Jeff Leve of WCI (wine cellar insider) fame (from CT)Tasted by Jeff Leve on 7/30/2009 & rated 92 points: 08 Château La Croix St. Georges comes from the same
gravel and clay terroir as the famed Le Pin. It is only one vine away! This deep ruby colored wine with a perfume
of black fruit, orange peel, spice, and oak is a treat to sniff. Mouth filling and sexed up, this flamboyant Pomerol
concludes with a long, ripe, black fruit filled finish. However, there was a tiny hint of alcoholic heat in the finish.
91-93 Pts (1377 views)
2012-01-08 20:02:36 WK: The La Croix on WTSO is not La Croix St. Georges. There are a variety of La Croix which are unrelated but
differ from each other by name variation yet have not connection to one another. There is no WA review of the
WTSO La Croix.
2012-01-08 20:08:21 That's what I get for a quick CT search while watching Tebow! Thanks for pointing that out VM.
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2012-01-08 20:35:55 I'd mostly agree with Joe G on the vintages. 2011 would be a perfect example of a vintage where there will be
some stunners and a lot of losers and his comments hit the bullseye. The micro climate variations in Bordeaux
were insane and impossible to track and the weather was all over the map with parcel by parcel variation. 1999,
2001, 2004, 2006, and 2008 are other examples of micro climate variation with potential for good wines while
the overall vintage was so so. Yet, there are vintages where things were so bad across the board that I've not
had any good ones. 2002 and 2007 come to mind. The best Chateaux had the wherewithal to make the best out
of a bad situation, but these are vintages that, as a rule and almost without exception, are lean and disappointing
compared to great vintages. Plus, the wines are loaded with chemicals from dozens (yes, dozen is plural) of
sprayings used to control the rot from the cold, rainy vintage. 2005 and 2009 are examples of vintages where
you have to go out of your way to find mediocrity because they were so good top to bottom. 2003 is an
example of a vintage where, if you are in a restaurant, you can pick the vintage and, with Bordeaux, pretty much
count on being happy. Across the board the wines were big fruit, early drinkers...perfect for a restaurant. I think
2012-01-08 21:11:27 interesting story on 60 minutes about truffles..............what an incredible waste of money paying $1,000 / pound
simply because it is in the category of "I am goping to drive the price up so I can have what you can't afford'
...................ridiculous example of how wealth can warp reasoning ................and now the Chinese are flooding the
market with "knock offs"....
2012-01-08 21:54:47 Do we really need to caveat our posts with the "vintage ratings are just generalizations" nonsense when we all
know we are discussing a region with 300,000+ acres under vine with 2 major rivers cutting swaths throughout
the gravelly soils, clay laden hills, and wines made when the grapes start to rot with fungus? Come on now this is
the Hills! Lets just discuss wine and our opinions on wine. If you believe a wine has outperformed the general
perception of a vintage please feel free to post without any need to defend your opinion. Or if you
agree/disagree with my rankings post away! Discuss!
2012-01-08 22:59:06 Downton Abbey....Holy CR4P...
(and I don't just mean the wine cellar that joint must be standin' on top of!)
2012-01-09 07:19:57 BBob where is the downtown Abbey at?
2012-01-09 07:23:23 @ Knurd: North Yorkshire, England, of course. ;)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/downtonabbey/
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2012-01-09 10:11:14 Talking about Bordeaux vintages, this site has really nice, succinct summaries of each vintage:
http://www.thewinecellarinsider.com/wine-topics/bordeaux-wine-buying-guide-tasting-notes-ratings/bordeauxwine-detailed-vintage-summary-1945-today/
It reminded me of an odd, quirky factoid. The number 7 has been unlucky for Bordeaux. Since 1947, any vintage
ending with the number 7 has stunk. 1957, 67, 77, 87, 97, and 07 were all bad vintages.
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2012-01-09 12:08:12 very nice gruner deal on cindy.
2012-01-09 13:41:13 That does look like a nice deal.
If you order from Cinderella / Wine Library, do you still get your credit card stolen in the process?
2012-01-09 14:15:06 gruner deal gonzo
2012-01-09 14:19:45 Vinmoet: With your earlier caution about years containing a "7" in mind, do you have any thoughts on the
current LB offering of Chateau Pipeau 2007 for $17, w/FS for 6. If one throws out the two 84pt CT reviews from
the same person and one of the 92 pt scores, you still have a 90 pt average, which seems attractive for a Grand
Cru. The more recent reviews are tempting me.
2012-01-09 14:47:35 @WM believe you would be wise to heed @vinny's warning. Per wine searcher here are the critic scores:
Wine Spectator
84-87/100 2010 to 2014
La Revue du Vin de France 15/20 Vinum Wine Magazine 14.5/20 2012 to 2015
Also the '09 is available at $21.98 here:
http://www.tableandvine.com/catalog/wine/france/bordeaux/st_emilion/pipeau_fut.html
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2012-01-09 14:57:15 Lud: Thanks for the additional info. I am easily tempted, regardless of being short of space for wines coming
soon. I did not pull the trigger on it or Adam's offering this past weekend. I am going to have another "clear out
the cellar tasting" next Sat, just to whittle down the 350+ wines which are in or past their CT "drinking windows".
Of course that will probably only get around 20-25 bottles opened and I have dozens coming.
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2012-01-09 15:05:37 Amarone up on Cindy now to replace the pumpkin.
2012-01-09 18:24:21 I don't think you missed anything by not buying the Pipeau. I think the '07 Monbousquet for $20 w/free shipping
was a much better value play and I still wouldn't buy that one again. You'll be happier with some of the fleshier
'09's that are hitting the shores.
2012-01-09 21:42:20 07 Monbousquet for $20? Free shipping? Where at? At that price it *might* deliver some value...
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2012-01-09 21:49:44 moet.. i had one of my 07 monbo la reserves yest and was very happy wih it. plump, juicy, inky, graphite,
pyrazine.... good mouthfeel and med and balanced finished... solid 90+ for me
2012-01-09 21:51:36 moet, have you had the 07 pipeau?
2012-01-09 22:07:40 JoeG how much was that 07 Monbo LR?
2012-01-09 22:28:48 9 minutes left in the 3Q of the championship game, will we have a TD at any point?
2012-01-09 22:38:22 knurd.... $20
2012-01-10 09:04:09 2006 faiveley meursault on Last Bottle. No email sent. Act quick
2012-01-10 09:43:17 Just goes to show you you have no idea what goes on in your / your children's teachers lives outside of the
classroom and how they can set it all aside when they come to work each day. I'm still numb after reading this; I
had Señor Gilkey two different years in high school and he was one of the most kind enthusiastic people I have
ever had the pleasure of meeting. http://bit.ly/AocaUh
2012-01-10 10:03:32 joe g: I bought 6 bottles of it and have drunk 3. All consistent notes. For me it was a well made wine for the
vintage. Forgetting the challenges of the vintage, it was lean up front, good mid palate but with a weak finish. I
gave it 88 points. Its a classic example of a great winemaker making the best of a bad vintage. The best wine I've
had of the vintage is the '07 Rauzan Segla which I gave 89 points. Haut Brion and La Mission tied Monbousquet
at 88 points. Everybody else has been lower.
It was a great deal at 20 bones w/shipping but I don't feel motivated to buy any more. I'd say the '05 Lalande
Borie for, I think, the same price on Cindy way back when was a much better wine.
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Pipeau buyers: I have not had the '07 Pipeau. Its a good price and, if you have low expectations, I suspect you
will be satisfied. I just rather spend the money elsewhere.
2012-01-10 11:18:06 WTSO has the 2008 Ch. Haut Gravet for 20 bones w/shipping, minimum 4 bottles. They show WS 90 RP 89-91.
The most recent Parker review is 89 points:
"This attractive, seductive 2008 reveals plenty of oak and earth along with copious quantities of red and black
fruits in its perfumed, supple textured, succulent personality. Drink this medium-bodied wine over the next
decade."
I've not had this wine. I am somewhat familiar with the family which has several Chateaux and are implementing
more modern facilities. As for the vintage, I like right bank '08.
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2012-01-10 12:17:45 I was trolling WL and noticed that they are getting gobs of '09 Burgundy in. The challenge is finding decent stuff
in that sub $30 range.
As for Bordeaux on WL, I like the following values:
At sub $50: https://winelibrary.com/wines/64067-09-reserve-de-la-comtesse
https://winelibrary.com/wines/7844-05-chateau-chauvin
At sub $30: https://winelibrary.com/products/63467-09-clos-les-lunelles
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22551 vinmoet
These will both drink young, although the Reserve de la Comtesse will be sublime after 10+ years.
2012-01-10 12:20:28 moet.. thanks for the input... the bottle of monbo la reserve i had was plump up front and while not mindblowing
length it was certainly enough... prob why i enjoyed it more than you... out of curiosity how long did you have
them before you drank them?
2012-01-10 12:28:24 Joe: can't remember exactly when we bought them...a month ago+? I had two this past weekend and one the
prior week. Don't think that they suffered from travel shock. Decanted one for a half hour+ and the other for an
hour+ neither showing any difference as a result. I liked the wine, just didn't love it.
22552 BrunelloBob
2012-01-10 12:31:41 Now a word from the competition...
22553 wine magnet
Nice looking Italian on Empire. I don't think I've had the wine, but I've had others from Bastianich and, while not
a fan of the celebrity angle, the wines were solid.
2012-01-10 12:56:57 Brunello Bob: I just received an email from a LWS in which they are offering the 2004 Frescobaldi Brunello
Castelgiocodo Riserva for $49.99 btl., with notes that it had an earlier WS 95pt, and more recently a 93pt score.
Any thoughts on the value? Italy is not heavily represented among my wines, so having a few might be nice.
22554 vinmoet
2012-01-10 13:44:32 KisforKate: Was going to go to Devilshead this weekend. But, you've got no snow!!! Had the Wisconsin Shuffle
all planned out...picked the wines and everything. Am bummed but think I am going to cancel. We will head up
there President's weekend. Hey, what was that Chalet place kind of southwest of you?
Have you seen Chalet Girl? Predictable and not a lot of layers to that onion, but it has English accents and shots
of the Alps which have to count for something. We thought that it fell into the watchable, once, category.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYkVRi5Vuq8
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2012-01-10 14:22:29 @Mags:
Castelgiocodo IS a legit, respected producer and that looks like a good price for a 2004 riserva.
I'm holding the normale version of the 2004. Suckling laid 95 points on that one and I paid $69.99 for it before I
discovered the internet. Suckling can be high on Brunello, but I trust him relatively speaking. That said, I have
some concerns re: the wisdom of the purchase. I've seen some mixed reviews lately on the normale and I've
seen the bottle discounted.
22556 K is for Kate
I'd say at $49.99 for the riserva: Go for it. Good luck.
2012-01-10 14:56:47 @vinmoet- The weather has been crazy! It's nearly 50 out today, but it's supposed to get cold and snow on
Thursday. I think it was the New Glarus Hotel that we were talking about because they have Raclette.
http://www.newglarushotel.com
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I haven't seen Chalet Girl, but am certainly in agreement that English accents and the Alps can make many things
worthwhile.
@vinmoet
hit for the cycle. picked up all 3 of your Bordeaux rec's today when WL offered 3 hours of free ship.
merci beuacop
John O: Nice one. Was unaware of the free shipping. Good job.
I, too, was unaware of the free shipping. When/where was it announced?
Nix that request. After some research I see it was a local's deal...
fwiw ... that FS on WL today was from 2pm thru 5pm only.
The code worked for me, too, although I'm not a local. So much for the SIWBM.
Luddite: That was some game! While glad for the win, I don't think I want to have to count on Brandon Paul
scoring 43 points every game. A performance like that is just insane, I'm sure it drove Thad crazy. Yet, the
poisonous nuts this year are the real deal, the Illini were just lucky to be able protect the home turf (without
students here) this time around. You're still going to be a 1 or 2 seed come March. We definitely belong in the
tourney but I see us in that 8 to 12 seed range. I see the Big 10 getting 8 teams in, plus or minus one.
2012-01-11 11:50:57 @vinny: Congrats to the ILLINI!
@all: WL stopped sending me emails with tracking numbers for my orders around the 20th of December. Now
they just show up unannounced :( Question: Is this happening to everyone else or am I just special?
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2012-01-11 12:18:53 @Phredd - I meant it was emailed out to locals, or so it was mentioned on the forum.
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2012-01-11 12:34:30 @Ludds: I haven't ordered since the credit card debacle, but I got a call the other day saying "We're sending you
some futures that you ordered and we noticed that you've got some bottles on hold, can we send those too?" I
said "yes" and, like you, I got no email re: shipments or tracking numbers. It may be the new web site can't
support that service yet. Quite the mess in my account order hx....
22575 BuffaloLou
2012-01-11 13:08:48 @BB - I have been receiving emails with shipment notification and tracking info right along, and as recently as
last week. Must be another issue.
2012-01-11 14:12:34 I use a particular email address for my orders which I never check (15K of unread emails, I average 200 a day). So,
I'm not going to be helpful here (which is why, as an inmate, it was critical that I post).
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2012-01-11 14:30:45 New Ship4Free up if anyone is interested! Thanks.
I'm looking into some kind of 2009 Bordeaux deal to offer soon too!
2012-01-11 21:27:23 damn Adam, that's a big boy from my favorite Argentinian producer.
2012-01-11 21:39:33 I do not get e-mail notifications or tracking #'s either. I log into my WL account &; find the tracking # there.
Must be a glitch because it appears some peeps are still getting them.
2012-01-11 22:43:47
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=750737" rel="nofollow">2008 McManis Family
Vineyards Petite Sirah</a> - USA, California (1/11/2012)
C: Deep, opaque purple
N: Loads of smoke, blackberry and black cherry, vanilla, an abundance of tobacco, a little green pepper.
P: Jammy blackberry & black cherry, chocolate covered cherry cordial. Flavors spike on the mid-palate.
F: medium
I love this wine. Killer QPR. Delicious fruit, but so much more, too! Extracted, but not overbearing. Nice viscosity
on the palate; filles the mouth with yummy goodness and sweet tannins. (91 points)
22589 BrunelloBob
2012-01-12 06:11:32 I am still getting WL shipment and tracking info emails. I received shipments last week and the week before and
got emails once UPS picked them up.
2012-01-12 06:30:39 My wine usually comes Fedex, maybe that's the difference?
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2012-01-12 11:08:08 Well WL shipping prices are showing quite an increase as 6 bottles to SC is showing up as $31 vs. $20. I seem to
remember this happening once before and it was a glitch not a price increase... Any other inmates notice this?
http://cinderellawine.com/shipping-info/
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2012-01-12 12:50:44 @ludds: A case use to cost me $21 and it's now $22. This seems on par with the UPS shipping rates (I receive my
WL/CW orders via UPS) that I'm seeing in my day to day shipping at work.
2012-01-12 13:39:16 Checking in from ole Dublin Ireland. The Guinness Storehouse factory facility is fantastic.
No wine stories.
22595 luddite
TonyO, i found the phil lynott statue downtown... cool.
2012-01-12 13:40:15 @BLou: Thanks! Figured it out my order had 2 bottles (futures) and 4 regular. Since WL creates a separate
order for futures, the shipping was $31, 2 bottles ($13) and 4 bottles ($18), vs. $20 for 6 bottles...
22596 BrunelloBob
2012-01-12 15:08:42 @Dude: Don't miss Trinity College. The Book of Kells is cool, but the Library is really neat.
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2012-01-12 20:22:21
And have a Guiness for me; So Much better in Ireland :)
@BD - I am envious! Enjoy the Guinness!!
@BaroloDude; That is the definition of cool..............Phil will always be remembered by those that truly
appreciate his greatness......glad you got to see that and hope you are having a great time in the Emerald
Isles.....Slainte !
Good to see the Hills back up. It was gone for a while there...
Inmates residing in North Carolina who enjoy a good beer from time to time, mark February 20th on your
calendar!
http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/raleigh-durham-chapelhill
@luddite I'm wondering, assuming those got shipped together, if WL would be willing to pro-rate that like they
do case purchases made over time?
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<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=507133" rel="nofollow">2008 David Coffaro
Zinfandel "My Zin"</a> - USA, California, Sonoma County, Dry Creek Valley (1/12/2012)
C: Ruby
N: Explosive black and blue fruits, tobacco wrapper, brine, hint of oak & smoke
P: mimics the nose with black and blue fruits, chocolate covered strawberry,
F: Long
The nose is intoxicating; slightly sweet, jammy fruits give way to more complex tobacco and brine notes. This is
explosive on the nose and palate with black and blue fruits. Tastes more like a Cali Syrah than a Zin. Ripping
acidity balances the abundance of fruit. Smooth, sweet, tannins. Absolutely delicious! Killer QPR. (91
points)
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2012-01-12 21:52:12 Testing 1... 2... Testing 1... 2... Is this thing on?
2012-01-13 09:26:35 Day-um! I think the blasted ting be broked!
;-)
2012-01-13 11:04:50 My challenge is that I work a lot of hours and summer is my peak season which doesn't match up very well with
the kids' schedule. I used to yank them out of school in the fall for a couple of weeks but my oldest started at an
insanely academically strong school and I just can't yank her out of school any more. So, that means only long
weekend vacations.
I was trolling last night looking for air bargains for March which is the kids' spring break. Scored 5 round trip
tickets from Chicago to LAX returning from San Fran back to Chicago for $1,100 with tax, TOTAL. Direct flights on
AA. Me happy.
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So I've got a week. Plan to fly into LA then drive down to San Diego. Drive back up north of LA and take the
coast to San Fran. We are not big LA fans so we plan to skip it. Looks like this francophile will be sucking down
some cali wines in a couple of months. Heh heh heh.
2012-01-13 11:53:51 Vinny: No interest in the La Brea tarpits?
It's not that far from LAX, and what kid doesn't kike dinosaurs?
2012-01-13 12:04:02 BBob: EXCELLENT suggestion! I've never gone there. Will put it on the list of possible things to do. Thanks.
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2012-01-13 12:40:15 :)
If you're doing the Pacific Coast thing, we liked this restaurant in Big Sur. Killer views, and a really decent wine list
(in a California kind of way). You kind of have to know the restaurant is there/be looking for it.
http://www.nepenthebigsur.com/
If you're looking for kid friendly things to do in San Fran: We rented Bikes from these guys. They've got a route
they recommend through the Presidio, over the Golden Gate, on to Sausalito. You can then take the ferry back to
San Fran with some great views. The bike route can continue on to Tiburon, that part's not bad, but really isn't
worth it.
http://www.blazingsaddles.com/san-francisco.aspx#
Of course you know about Muir woods.
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2012-01-13 14:52:40 I see an Ambrosiaburger with a bottle of Ridge Lytton Springs Zin in my future. Thanks BB!
2012-01-13 15:13:54 Hello Inmates,
Back from my vacation in Mexico. Had a great time. Plenty of tequila, beer, and some crappy wine. Good food
and a very mild weather. Climbed the Nohoch Mul pyramid, which is the last that tourists get ascend. Paid
respects to the Mayans... They promised a new beginning after December 21, 2012, so the world won't end.
Have pictures of the stone that is the "day after" from Coba.
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22624 vinmoet
2012-01-13 15:56:57
Did you miss me?
WELCOME HOME mr21cbs! So, the crappy wine was from where?
@mr21cbs: Sí mucho! :D Welcome back!
The crappy wines were from Chile. The only drinkable stuff was 2010 Sauvignon Blanc. They had Merlot,
Cabernet Sauvignon, and Chardonnay - all unapproachable. Of course the wine list existed, but paying $30 for
Yellow Tail, and $150 for a 2009 Napa Cab was not an option at an all inclusive resort. So an occasional Corona or
Negra Modelo, but mostly mixed drinks and straight tequila. Found a few that were pretty smooth: 100 Anos
Agave, which surprisingly drank better than 1800 Silver or Anejo, no hangover and included in the bill, which
were all important qualifications.
I am to wimpy to handle the tequila but a cold Negra Modelo in the hot sun, that sounds muy bien to me.
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2012-01-13 16:15:11 @mr21cbs - Welcome back! Nice to hear you had a good vaca. Thanks for making peace with the Mayans, it's
good to know I don't have to kill the wine cellar in short order!
Snowing like the dickens! It's about time Winter arrived in Buffalo.
2012-01-13 17:17:41 Any thoughts on the 2007 Chianti Classico Riserva offer of Gary's?
2012-01-13 17:24:02 Tonight we will celebrate the GREAT NEWS that Mrs. TonyO received and ACCEPTED a fantastic job offer ! It has
been 5 LONG months and she handled it with class, dignity, and patience that reinforces what I already
know...................I am one blessed man ! Tonight, CHEERS ! will be an understatement !!!! Thanks for the many
kind words through this process. Goodbye Franzia, Hello Insignia !!!!
Time to shuck some oysters and pop some bubbly !!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
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2012-01-13 17:52:47 TonyO............Congrats to your bride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have a second bottle on ice =)
2012-01-13 18:45:47 TonyO - that is a great news! Congratulations and best of luck to Mrs. TonyO! Happier New Year to you all.
~
Vinmoet, the sun was pleasant but not too hot. It was in low 70s at night and high 80s during the day. The sea
was about 75-80F as well so it was very pleasant indeed.
2012-01-13 20:05:17 1997 Heitz Martha's Vineyard..............God Bless America !
2012-01-13 20:10:30 Mrs T.O. is working again and cbs survived the Mexican drug lords. Much to be thankful for tonight. Drink up
inmates!
2012-01-13 20:34:37 @TonyO - Congrats to you and your better half! Good news indeed!!
2012-01-13 20:45:24 Bbob: If in San Diego, would you (and the family) take the red car to Tiajuana? I did this a decade ago in safer
times. Would be fun to do again but not so excited about drug lords....
2012-01-13 20:54:59 @vinmoet I took my girls down to TJ about six months ago on the red line and had a good time...did not see any
drug lords "whew". And if your traveling north and go by the 405 and 101 you could stop by my humble abode
and I would break out some French wine for you :)
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2012-01-13 20:58:03 @Vinny: I'm no authority on cross border incursions but seriously, I wouldn't take my wife (never mind my
children) into Tiajuana.
x
If you're desperate for something to do outside of San Diego, there's always Temeculah. The drive is pretty cool
though the wine is fairly middling.
x
You really need a BaroloDude (or Costello) consult in this part of the world, however.
x
One more random point: If you're looking for a reasonable hotel in San Fran, try the Hilton in Chinatown. Pay
extra for the Bay view rooms. View is incredible.
2012-01-13 20:59:58 Addendum: If Scott is local, I'd follow his advice, not mine.
I may just be a big fat chicken...
2012-01-13 21:13:25 TonyO (2011‐06‐30): "Quite a day today. As I was on my way to meet with a financial planner, Mrs. TonyO called
to let me know that after 19 years of employment, GE Healthcare was laying her off. Hey Jeffrey Immelt, go
$%^& yourself................with each setback comes opportunity, with adversity there is advancement, we will
not be defeated............."
Truer words were never spoken! Congratulations to both of you on your wife's new job!
2012-01-13 23:39:46 @luddite: thnx for the memories ! I will never utter a pharase that may come back to haunt me ! I LOVE THE
JOURNEY KNOWN AS LIFE !!! ( the ocassional detour aka a hnagover, not so much...........) may our cross paths
along the way...........
P.S.How cool is it that BaroloDude took the time to post about the Phil Statue in Dublin ! In the words of Phil,
"Are there any girls out there that have any Irish in them " ?"'Are there any girls that would like to have a little
Irish in them "? .................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRANU2jvykY&feature=related
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2012-01-14 12:05:07
none better then or now..........God Bless Phil Lynott
Can I get some 49ers love today? I need all the Hills behind us if we are going to beat the Saints!
@WK: as a Viking fan, there are not many teams I despise more than New Orleans........go 49'ers !
Alright! Got TonyO on board!
BLou I think you misspelled "fruits" in your QPR recommendation.
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2012-01-14 12:39:15 @Knurd - Yeah, I noticed that, too, but there are worse things like drinking bad wine!
Usually my luck with sports works in reverse... the team for which I'm pulling usually looses. Perhaps I should
pull for the Saints? :)
2012-01-14 13:28:49 Bbob: You're telling me something I kind of guess was the case. Tiajuana has changed a lot even in the past 5
years. Good advice. In San Fran there is a local travel lodge style 1950's hotel that is on the border of
Chinatown and Little Italy. Historically we have stayed there (has free parking to boot) so it holds lots of
memories. That's probably where we will stay but I am going to check out the Hilton too so thanks for the tip.
Scott W: Thanks for the offer, but when in Rome do as the Romans...even I, a hardcore Bordeauxphile, will be
drinking fine Cali wine when in Cali (although, we will be staying with some friends who will expect me to bring
some old Bordeaux).
Luddite: That stinks. Hope she gets a decent severance package and takes some time for herself. Crack open
something special to celebrate a new beginning.
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Tony O: Even though I am a Bears fan I also love N.O. I have a couple of buddies who coach there and have been
following them ever since they got the new staff. Even attended a couple of practices there in the early days. Its
really amazing what they have accomplished. I prescribe some high ABV wine for you, that's what keeps us
Bears/Cubs fans going.
2012-01-14 14:09:05 Vinny, after all we have been through you now I find out you are a Saints fan? :)
http://www.delongwine.com/metro-france-wine-map.php
Got the Metro Wine Map of France for xmas but just got it framed and mounted this weekend (slack I know). It's
really cool. Vinny I figured you might appreciate it considering your travels through France might resemble the
actual map, but I also used it to map out Jefferson's travels through France (from what was described in the
Billionaire's Vinegar).
22651 BuffaloLou
It really helps to simplify the spatial relationships between regions, especially in Burgundy (each region is a
"stop"). It also shows the extent of the rivers. I knew the Loire was quite extensive, but did not realize that its
origin lies just west of Lyon in Burgundy / S Rhone. Nor did I realize that the Garonne's origin in is the Pyrenees
near the border with Spain.
2012-01-14 15:33:44 All this talk of Phil Lynott (and Thin Lizzy)... How about some Gary Moore? I just love this piece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_YMLDvvnw
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2012-01-14 15:37:11 Knurd: Go 9ers! I'll be rooting for you too! I always root for the underdog unless my team is playing (I will support
the Giants tomorrow, too). When I lived in SoCA, we had both the Rams and the Raiders in LA, so I rooted for the
9ers (Montana was QB then). Should be an interesting few games...
Trying to get healthy foods ready for the game- it is the New Year, and I don't want to have to give up my wine!
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2012-01-14 15:38:32 WiM I am going in the opposite manner, wings, pizza and beer :)
2012-01-14 15:45:18 @VinMoet
Any thoughts on the below at $16
22655 luddite
Chateau Clement Saint-Jean Medoc 2009
2012-01-14 16:20:56 @John O': From page 1244:
"vinmoet says:
January 2, 2012 at 1:02 pm
Happy New Year inmates! I was trolling about this a.m. and found what could be a great everyday Bordeaux:
http://www.empirewine.com/wine/chateau-clement-saint-jean-medoc-2009/
I have not had this wine. But, the wine reviewer, Neal Martin, has a marvelous palate and awarded it 90 points.
This is 16 bones with shipping folks. We will be seeing more and more of these kinds of bargains for 2009 which
is a great vintage from the bottom up."
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2012-01-14 16:47:33 thx Ludds
2012-01-14 17:02:39 John - This is indeed a great everyday bordeaux - I have some cases of this one at home. Thanks for looking!
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2012-01-14 17:31:04 .@BBob: was in the SD area in October: LOTs of interesting activities on this side of the border, including
US Marine Aviation Base (Miramar);
SD ZOO
Torrey Pines Hiking (Located within San Diego city limits, this
State Natural Reserve remains one of the wildest
stretches of land on the Southern California coast.
Hiking aficionados will appreciate this park’s modest
trails that descend to the sea, with vantage points
that offer an unparalleled view of the Ocean. Also, an
unique opportunity to view the Torrey pine trees,
one of the rarest pine breeds in the United States,
found only there and on the island of Santa Rosa. Enjoy!
Goooooooo Packers,Go!
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2012-01-14 18:26:25 @John O': You may be able to buy the '09 Chateau Clement Saint-Jean Medoc for less here (even without free
shipping):
http://zachys.com/retail/ProductView.aspx?R=352562&N=4294967254+4294966895+9&Ny=64
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2012-01-15 08:36:31 ok Mr CBS, it's the 15th, time for a new QPR ... :)
2012-01-15 09:21:30 @BL: another huge loss, the death of Gary Moore........man could he play.............
2012-01-15 12:39:17 Bbob: Am still looking around, but I've got a reservation at our old San Fran haunt. The rooms are under 90
bones and include parking: http://royalpacificmotorinn.com/
Its at 661 Broadway with Chinatown on one side of the road and little Italy on the other. Going to have to stick
with beer for dinner in Chinatown.
Its pretty basic fare but in a fantastic location and is loads of fun. That said, won't spurn a deal at a fancier place.
22670 vinmoet
2012-01-15 12:59:54 OK, so I will pay nothing for hotel but am willing to blow bucks on food? Who wudda thunk?
Has anyone done the wine train in Napa? http://winetrain.com/ It is obviously touristy but it just seems like it
must be done. My kids can dine glam or slum with the best of them so I don't mind spending 130 bones on lunch
if its worth it. Any of our Caliphiles done this?
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2012-01-15 14:42:10 Vinny: Talk like a local: San Fran Little Italy = North Beach, Non?
We've done the Wine Train and (cost aside) I think it's a good play for a first timer. Or grownups that want to
drink without driving. :) :). You basically parallel the southern portion of the main road through Napa Valley.
Redundancy wasn't an issue for us as we were headed to Sonoma the next day anyway.
However, it may be a bit long for kids to sit. Plan on sitting/eating for two hours with another hour before/after
dinner to "explore" the train. The exploration part will be really cool for the kids. There are several antique cars
to check out. You can get outside on the decks (or whatever they call the open space at the back of the cars) The
key for parents, it would seem, is whether or not your kids can sit still for the two hours with nothing to do but
eat and look out the window. The food is good/not great. Same for the wine, and you're paying for the wine
seperately I belive.
If you're going to do it, consider the Vista Dome. You ride higher, the view is better, though the car itself isn't
quite as classic. The food may be a bit better.
If you're looking for relatively reasonable accomondations within walking distance, check out the Napa River INN.
22672 BuffaloLou
2012-01-15 15:06:54 @Vinny - I haven't been there (Napa) in over 15 years, but the last time we were there we stayed at The Rancho
Caymus Inn, next door to BV. Lovely accommodations with fire burning fireplaces in the rooms. (Very, very, nice
if it's just you and the Mrs!) We were there in October and the smell of the fermenting juice permeated the air,
and the early morning fog was just amazing. They have (had?) a outdoor dining courtyard which was perfect for
dining. We enjoyed picking up some charcuterie at a deli in Napa (the town) and dined in the courtyard with a
local bottle purchased the day before. Wonderful! (Even if you don't stay there, you could consider a picnic
lunch!) Maybe some locals can shed more light on Rancho Caymus Inn.
Hope you have a great time!
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2012-01-15 16:12:19 North Beach = SF Little Italy. Got it, at least until I forget. As for a 3 hour meal for kids...we do this in France all
the time so no problem for the bambinos. We went out for dinner at a trendy restaurant last night which has a
tapas menu...the waitress was wide eyed when our 8 year old was rattling off his selections to her. That was a 2
hour meal and no dvd player or DS was needed.
Thanks for the tips on the Napa train...I will discuss this with Mrs. V and get a final ruling on it. We've got limited
time there so I want pre-plan the critical chunks. If we don't do it, then I want to eat at a serious Cali style
restaurant in SF, preferably seafood and a place that local foodies would eat at. Suggestions?
Mrs. V made us boeuf bourguignon this past week. You normally want to make it with red burgundy, possibly a
village beaujolais or even a cotes du rhone...something medium bodied. Well, she grabbed a bottle of that '07
Monbousquet. Rich does not begin to describe it's impact. Just fantastic. I like the burgundy version more, but
the Bordeaux wine provided an unexpected change of pace and serious deep, dark color. I'm going to talk her
into making both types at once so we can compare and contrast. She hasn't said no.
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When we go to San Diego we will be staying with good friends and the tradition is for Mrs. V to pre-cook a french
meal here, transport it there, and then we eat it upon arrival. Her cooking is just that good and our foodie
2012-01-15 16:26:27 Love it: "she grabbed a bottle of that ’07 Monbousquet" and threw it into the pot 'cause that's all we had "lying
around".... ;)
Sorry, I got nothing on San Fran seafood, at least nothing that sticks in the memory. Last time we had dinner one
night in North Beach: It was OK, and sitting outside is always cool when you come from CT, but the food was
Italian and not all that memorable. Coming back we stayed at the Fairmont (this was a Splurge), scored a
SERIOUS free upgrade to a 1,000 square foot suite near the top of the tower, and never got out of the hotel :)
I could probably dig up the name of a pretty good seafood joint we had lunch at in Sausalito if you end up out
that way.
Dim Sum for lunch might be cool if the kids are into "tapas"
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2012-01-15 16:27:34 We've got several families coming over for dinner tonight. Serving up a higher end Mexican/Texmex buffet with
chicken fajitas, steak chili etc. Definitely serving up the Corona, but want have some wine too.
While I do maintain that Bordeaux goes with everything, I will concede that there are better options for this kind
of fare. I've got a 2009 Ridge Zin and the 2009 Seghesio (which Spectator put in its top 100 list but I find just has
too much alcohol for me). I was also thinking about something white and fruity like the 2010 Vouvray that was
my QPR recently. Suggestions?
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22677 BuffaloLou
2012-01-15 16:28:26 Where is BaroloDude when you need him?
2012-01-15 16:51:18 @Vinny - Mexican/Texmex = beer, IMHO.
Perhaps an assortment. Corona is always nice, but so is Dos Equis. I like to serve both at our Mexican/Texmex
gatherings.
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Edit: Doing a 'fajita seasoned' pork tenderloin tonight. Going to enjoy it with... beer!
2012-01-15 16:57:04 BLou: I really like Negra Modelo too.
2012-01-15 17:04:15 @Vinny - I never tried the Negra Modelo, but I should. I love dark beers. I have had the Dos Equis Ambar and
like it.
On that note: Just finished a Sam Adams Cream Stout and popped an "Eight-ball Stout" (Lost Coast Brewery) as a
follow-up. Tasty!
2012-01-15 17:10:19 Last time we heard from BDude was on the 12th from Dublin.
2012-01-15 19:34:17 Speaking of beers, we (and especially me) put down quite a few at my 49ers playoff party. Great Lakes (Cleveland
Ohio) Christmas Ale, Dortmunder Gold, Boddington's Pub Ale, Heavy Seas Plank Olde English style ale, Racer 5
IPA (from Bear Republic in Sonoma), "Modus Hoperandi" pale ale, New Belgium Fat Tire, Sam Adams Winter
Lager, Triangle Belgian Golden Ale (local NC brewery), Shiner Brewery (Texas) family pack, and that's just the
bottles still on the counter that won't fit into the recycle bin!
Celebrated the win with wine (not the best idea), 2005 White Cottage Howell Mtn Cab Sav, can't celebrate a SF
win without SF wine! It's 7:30, and my head finally no longer feels like birds have made a nest in it.
Special thanks to WiM for the encouraging text messages throughout the game!
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2012-01-15 20:09:54 DavidT, drink something strong to dull the pain of the Packers loss. With a defense like that they were a suspect
all year. But being so lousy offensively is inexcusable. I hope that the Niners shut up this Giants team.
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2012-01-15 20:14:21 We did it once already Mr21cbs!!!!
2012-01-15 20:25:18 Tweeted from the owner of the 49ers, Jed York-
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Jed York: Justin Smith ruined my shirt w/ a blood stain after the game when i hugged him. Not his blood. He
kicked ass yesterday!
2012-01-15 20:50:57 So did the Packers!!!
2012-01-15 20:53:57 Packers were too busy with insurance commercials to take this game serious.
2012-01-15 21:03:05 WineKnurd, I was thinking the same thing! "Discount double check"? They should have double checked their
readiness for this game and not discount a pretty solid team, that the Giants were of late.
Go Niners! It would be interesting to see the Harbaugh brothers in the Super Bowl. l
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22690 David T
2012-01-15 21:51:30 The NFL might implode if the Super Bowl was Harbowl II!
2012-01-16 02:18:10 @mr21cbs I was at work this evening so I had to dvr the game and just finished watching it... I will say skipping
the commercials was nice but of course I was disappointed- even though we got one turnover called our way in
error, it was turnovers that did us in. I blame WIM & SierraDoc :P From here forward I will turn on my
typical 'anti-Patriots' card & root for the 49ers from here on.
I popped the Collalbrigo prosecco to drink as I watched as I was just in the mood for bubbles... it was a Cindy
wine from when the Cindy comments were still active and I was looking over the posts from that offer... what
ever happened to Karl B, Chippewa & SNF (winner) ? Someone needs to track them down and have them
committed with the rest of the inmates... I did end up killing the bottle as the game went downhill.
@vm I don't know if it's a locals place or not, but I will be in SF in April & plan on stopping here; very wellreviewed on TripAdvisor & it appears most of what they do is one seafood dish, really really well. On that
note, keep me posted on where you go/what's worth doing to help me plan! I have a few SF destinations &
wineries in mind but am certainly open to more.
@Knurd Glad to see Great Lakes represent! Good choices there. FYI they will be distributed more widely in NC
starting next month!
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2012-01-16 11:01:48 @vm forgot the link in my last post... sottomaresf.com
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2012-01-16 11:30:12 David T: I took a visit to the site. Looks great. Since BBob taught me that North Beach is Little Italy, I could read
the menu like the local that I am. Like their reference to no corkage fee. The wine list was, well, thin, so it may
behoove us to pick up a couple of decent Cali bottles to take in there.
2012-01-16 11:37:50 DavidT re- Great Lakes in NC, I heard that they had made it as far as Greensboro NC, which is about an hour west
of me. Hopefully they make it into my county soon!
2012-01-16 11:39:17 @BB: WL 2010 Loring alert!
2012-01-16 11:42:27 New York Times European Version - 16 Jan 2012
Well known and loved Piedmont wine poster BaroloDude is missing in Dublin, Ireland. His last whereabouts was
Jan 12th at the Old Library at Trinity College. BaroloDude was in the museum shop purchasing collector spoons
and frig magnets. ^
^
Recently over heard:
BD: Good day..I am looking to add to my frig magnet collection, do you have any additional ones locked up in the
back room
Keeper: Sorry, all the items are on display next to the Vikings horns. When did you start collecting?
BD: Vikings? Where are the 49er Guns..My first magnet was given to me at age 18 - "WINE - How classy people
get sh1tfaced" My second "I haven't had my wine yet - DONT MAKE ME KILL YOU
Keeper: mmm...you must be from the States? We do have a new addition to our offerrings which may appeal to
you "1 Part Irish + 1 Part Italian = 1 Bad A$$ Mofo
BD: Sweet I will take a box
Keeper: I also have "Keep Calm and Drink Wine
BD: So 2011 ( a women approches him )
Mrs. BD: Honey, I am heading over to O'Neills for lunch with our guests, it is the one with the Guiness sign above
the front door. Please meet us there.
BD: Yes sweetheart I will be right over
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------6 days later
An unshaved man is seen walking the streets of Dublin with a plastic museum shopping bag. He is wearing a torn
O'Neill's rugby shirt. He looks lost but has several cuts on his head. He has a button on his collar "- Give Blood Play Rugby " A local man approaches him
Local Man: Dude...are you OK?
BD: Wow you know my name! I don't seem to remember yours. I have been a little banged up the last few
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2012-01-16 12:22:42 Vintage Brooks: Keep it up!
Thanks Ludds, let's hope they show up on Cindy. May break my Wine Library CCSBIWBM (Credit Card Security
Breach Imposed...)
22700 vinmoet
Had one of Loring's 2010 AVAs this weekend. Really nice wine, and a QPR in the Loring universe. Surprisingly
ready to drink as well.
2012-01-16 13:04:13 This is a pretty nifty tasting event for those in proximity to Chicago who want to taste '09 Bordeaux and meet
some of the lower level mucky mucks from the various Chateaux:
https://www.binnys.com/secure/events/
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For $50, a screaming value if you ask me...and yes, I will be attending.
2012-01-16 14:57:23 @Vinny - Any thoughts on today's CW nooner?
2012-01-16 15:34:11 BLou:
The '07 Haut Brisson La Reserve is another Bordeaux where GV helped blend it so they slapped La Reserve on the
bottle and sold him a ton of it. Parker scored it 90 points so that says something. Its a vintage that I am not a
fan of. If you allocate 20 bones to it, I'm still not excited. But remember, Parker likes it and he does know more
than Vinny who has not even tasted this wine.
22704 WineKnurd
The '09 Pontifical I have also not had. I loved their '07 and was OK with the '08. '09 is my preferred vintage for
CDP. If you could buy it for 20 bones I'd tell you to buy all you could. This is not a rock star CDP, but it is a very
good QPR CDP.
2012-01-16 15:41:34 "Parker likes it and he does know more than Vinny who has not even tasted this wine"
Knows more than Vinny? Sure he knows more about the style of wine he likes, knows how to write a good wine
description, and knows how to detect "subtle" nuances after smoking a pack of cigarettes, knows how to
determine palate development after tasting a wine for 5 seconds before spitting it out, but he does not know
what Vinny likes or thinks is quality.
BLou asked you, not Parker. Who cares what Parker thinks when you can ask Vinmoet.
Vinny give yourself some credit! You can't trust a wine reviewer who doesn't drink the entire bottle!
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2012-01-16 15:46:33 Takes me an entire bottle to compose a third grade tasting note and to decide whether I like it or not...
22706 vinmoet
2012-01-16 15:50:09 WK, thanks for the kudos but note that I haven't even tasted the wine where he has so whether you like or hate
Parker, he still has the edge on me.
2012-01-16 15:55:53 Parker wins this round, but Vinny will go the distance
2012-01-16 18:06:41 BBob, finishing a bottle turns me into a 3rd grader too
2012-01-16 18:32:15 WK: 9ers all the way! We NFC East fans in Manassas are rooting for them to wipe out the Giants! Drank a
Salvestrin 2004 Napa Cab Sauv during the game... how was the White Cottage? I've got 3 of the 05 in the cellar,
so I'd be willing to sacrifice one for the cause next Sun. Glad I'm off next Mon! ;-)
Where in the world is BDude??? Brooks, most excellent as always!
DT What did I do? I'm no Giants fan, the neighbors and I were rooting for GB, who apparently forgot to tell their
offense they were supposed to hold onto the ball...
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2012-01-16 18:50:19 @BB: Just ask your wife to take a sip and then copy off her notes :D
2012-01-16 19:00:00 Ludd's: the woman's a legend!
2012-01-16 20:26:12 BuffaloLou, et al,
any experience with Wine Guerrilla Forchini Vineyards Old Vine Russian River Valley Zinfandel 2008? $17.49 and
4FS on WTSO Platinum
2012-01-16 21:16:02 vinmoet: I happened to get this livingsocial offer this afternoon and thought of you and your CA trip. This could
be fun with some kids. The price looks nice for the appearance of the accommodations.
http://www.livingsocial.com/escapes/228948-lakeside-california-b-b?msdc_id=44-oakland
2012-01-16 21:28:45 @Vinny - TY for your humble words.
2012-01-16 21:36:45 @mr21cbs - Sorry, I know nothing about the Wine Guerrilla Zin. There seems to be two CT entries for it (seems
many have a dupe... )
https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=859274
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88 and 86 pts CT average, respectively.
2012-01-16 21:49:17 @mr21cbs - Re: the Wine Guerrilla Zin - Reading the CT notes it seems like a descent buy, but not a killer deal. If
I didn't already have a ton of Zin, I'd probably be in just to try it. Sounds like it's more on the fruit forward side,
and a bit simple, so it may not be in everyone's wheelhouse, but if you like lots of fruit...
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2012-01-16 21:49:29 I think the Wine Guerrilla guys were on James May's Road Trip, but I might be wrong. They tried to give Oz some
silver tongued spiel about the wine but he told them to shut it and let the wine speak for itself.
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2012-01-16 22:39:05 BuffaloLou, no apologies is necessary. I did read the CT notes for both posts. It was OK. I am really short on Zin,
so if you have any QPR recommendations, I am all ears. This will be a pass as I wasn't intrigued enough to jump
in. You and anyone else, feel free to share your latest favorite Zins.
2012-01-16 23:17:22 @mr21cbs - Re: Zin. One of my favs.
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I think the Castlebank is a nice QPR, and especially like the 2008 Castlebank Vineyards Zinfandel Old Vines Giulia's
Vineyard. Better QPR than the Guerrilla. Also, Saviez is quite good, too. I have several vintages from Saviez. Just
had the '04 (https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=493841) the other night and it was very nice! (The
'03 was nothing to write home about, but it wasn't a good vintage for them, IMO.) Of course, I like what
Rosenblum produces, but I must admit that they're typically fruit forward.
One of the best QPR Zins is the Coffaro "My Zin". I had an '08 the other night and it was excellent! BL91 points
and under $11 (club price)! https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=507133
Of course you can go with some big guns like Ridge, but that's double the price, and Orin Swift's The Prisoner, but
that's 3X. (Nothing against them; I have them both... just giving you some QPR deals!)
Recently I also enjoyed a 2008 Four Vines Zinfandel Biker. Very nice Zin with a lot more going on than just fruit.
BL92 and $22.50 (as you can see, not quite the QPR play like the Coffaro.) That said, I enjoyed it a lot:
https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=865104 Also, I've had good luck over the years with this
producer.
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Finally, one the pops up on WTSO from time to time is Optima Zin. I've picked up a few vintages and liked them!
Another descent QPR play, BL90 for < $15. https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=698517 It is fruit
forward.
2012-01-17 01:29:38 @mr21cbs I've always had positive zin experiences with both Ridge and Seghesio. Also Peachy Canyon is good
& slightly less expensive.
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I haven't done much blind tasting in my day... it's definitely something I need to do more of. I had my LWS owner
set up a blind tasting for me today and it was quite humbling- notes here
http://forums.winelibrary.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=38879&p=756656
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2012-01-17 08:47:44 Thanks, guys, I will look for these online and at my LWS. Appreciate your help.
2012-01-17 10:38:34 Michael regarding Zin, here are some of my favorites
Neal Family
Dashe Cellars
Milat
Buehler
Eberle
Coppola's Director's Cut
Neyers
C.G. di Arie
and as DT previously mentioned, Seghesio and Ridge.
Cheers!
2012-01-17 12:54:38 Oooh, if we're taking favourite Zinfandels I have a couple that I really enjoy that haven't been mentioned:
St. Francis Old Vines single vineyards (each of these are really different but I loved several of them)
Storybook Mountain Mayacamas
I also have a fondness for Cline Ancient Vines, though the cinnamon flavour that so pleases me is probably the
result of lots of oak.
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2012-01-17 14:19:11 Holy Red Burg Batman! Cory at LBW is going insaaaaane. Quite the big names paired up on that deal today....
i wish i could "get" Red Burg at this level, but i have tasted the Faiveley (in 09 great vintage) and cannot see past
its youth. Frustrating... either that or i have to accept that i am a RRV/Sonoma Coast/Central Cali kind of Pinot
person, and not a Burg man (for reds anyway, love the White Burg.... Karl B anyone?)
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2012-01-17 14:34:36 BDude: Big money for big wines. I've found that while drinkable early, the red burgs really seem to come into
their own with at least 5 years of age under their belt. The '09's need more than that. The fruit settles down and
little taste currents flow through the wine bringing out the complexity that you paid too much money for to
begin with. Have to be patient in order to earn your reward.
2012-01-17 15:32:18 Hey Vinny!
22738 NaH
Have you ever done this?
http://www.marathondumedoc.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=105&tmp
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2012-01-17 17:20:15 Vinny Mo! Many garcias. Like you said, there might be a big payoff there in buying and hoping the wine
develops into something i can dig, but at that price the risk is too high for the reward. Someday i hope to be
around someone who opens a well aged bottle of Faiveley or the like and then i hope they pour me some...
maybe then i will get the bug and find the risk worth taking.
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Go 49ers.
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lots of 8s. good luck.
2012-01-17 17:41:04 Brooks! I have a tale of whooooaaa now. cool.
Vinny coming to SF? when? to napa too?
Let me know pls when the dates are... in case i can make a little
time.
Skip the wine train in my humble opinion, too slow, too many blue hairs, too many noobs.
For 500 bucks you can get a limo for 6-8 hours, better off that way if you need someone else to do the driving.
Restaurants in SF for nice food and great wine lists? email me at dave underscore lieb at yahoo i don't want to
turn this into a massive back and forth on TH. Places i know best would be cab rides for you, given where you are
likely staying, but thats ok right? The hottest places to book now are Cotonia (which is next door to big brother
and other hot place Quince), Spruce is awesome but expensive, Aquerello for high end italian and the best
piemontese/italian wine list in the city. Firefly is a trendy little place for a reasonable price. Perbacco also good
italian based cuisine and good wine list.
Of note, you will need the restaurant to call a cab for you to get back
to your hotel, as its likely that cabs won't just be wandering down the street looking for fares. Its not NYC.
Enough, better get back to work. cheers.
pizza. wish i bought a lot more.
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2012-01-17 18:07:35 NaH: "when will take place the 2012 Medoc marathon?" Doesn't get any more French than that. No. I have
never heard of this. It looks kinda cool except they got something very, very wrong. They are running. A Medoc
marathon seems more appropriately to be about drinking.
BDude: Jancis Robinson says that 4 out of 5 Burgundies are disappointing. Its that 5th one that makes the pain
of the others worth the while. I really enjoy Burgundy but its not my passion. My odds of success in Bordeaux
are much better.
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BDude: I will be in SF arriving 3.22 departing 3.24. Am negotiating with Mrs. V on what we will do. I have toured
Napa before and will probably pass on doing the limo tour. The wine train was somewhat tempting. Are
basically there an afternoon, a full day, and a full morning. We've done most major tourist things. One night is
definitely reserved for China Town. That leaves another night, I'm thinking on 3.24, open for another restaurant.
Our druthers are for a Cali restaurant doing something we don't find in Chicago, Paris, etc. Quince and Firefly we
are familiar with but have not been to. Spruce is a possibility but seems kind of over the top for us? I'll spend
the money but I want QPR so if its pricey, it needs to blow my socks off.
2012-01-17 18:17:23 I don't know how many of you are No Reservations fans, but last night they played their 100th episode and based
it in Paris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_MYQMT-ucg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh3TI4rynEk&feature=related
Two of the chefs, Yves Comptoir and Christian Constant, are friends of one of my cousins. We've eaten at the
Constant restaurant in the show and at Comptoir's restaurant that he opened prior to the one in the show.
We've also eaten at one of the other featured restaurants. Not too bad for a couple of midwesterners.
As for this episode, it was brilliant. One of the best. It captures what is going on in Parisian cooking, though I
would argue not what is going on in French cooking all over France. Elements of Parisian cooking go everywhere,
but not all of it. This episode is an absolute must see.
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2012-01-17 18:31:27 A frequent guest on the show is Eric Ripert a French chef based in the U.S. His restaurants are Le Bernardin in
New York, The Releigh in Miami, Westend Bistro in DC, and 10 Arts by Eric Ripert in Philly.
Has anyone eaten at any of his places? I have not.
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2012-01-18 00:35:34 Bodegas Ondarre Reserva Rioja 2004, $11.49 FS/4 on WTSO
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BLou just picked up another 4 for myself!
In for a case. Talk about an easy everyday drinker!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIKE!!!
aka MR21CBS
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THANKS FOR EVERYTHING. HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON.
2012-01-18 09:19:58 CBS: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ibrtEQEAKs
2012-01-18 09:23:29 Thanks, Everyone!
2012-01-18 09:43:32 Mike - Happy Birthday - May you have many more.
2012-01-18 09:48:11 Interesting read from wine exchange (winex.com) for those interesting in BDX:
2008 THE BARGAIN VINTAGE
First, a brief slice of history. Let's think all the way back to 2005, only the second-vintage-of-the-century since the
Millennium. Yes the vintage was, indeed, special. But the Bordelais took the opportunity to test the water and
the prices were equally historic. Along came 2006, not quite 2005, in fact the ratings of the vintage were closer
to the unheralded 2004s when all was said and done. But the prices were typically closer to 2005.
In 2007, which was acknowledged as a difficult vintage, the Bordeaux chateaux decided it was time to back off
the extreme pricing they had been asking. So they did lower prices from the historic levels of 2005 and 2006, but
they were still substantially higher than most of the vintages that had preceded the groundbreaking '05s. Buyers
stayed away from the 2007s in droves and the Bordelais realized they had taken it too far.
The very good 2008s were their chance to make amends and get back the patrons they had lost, and those wines
were sold at the most aggressive prices that anyone had seen in years. Then China happened, creating new
demand for the very top wines. Then came the 'twin towers' of 2009 and 2010, which renewed testing of the
price waters and vaulted the costs per bottle to new heights.
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Bottom line, if you look at the vintage charts on the Wine Advocate sites, 2008 was visibly better than both 2006
2012-01-18 09:51:32 Happy Birthday, Mike! I hope you have a great day!
2012-01-18 10:12:54 @mr21cbs I hope you have a happy birthday and drink something good tonight!
2012-01-18 10:28:52 Happy Birthday mr21cbs! Hope you drink something amazing today! Thanks for all you do to keep the inmates
medicated and happy!
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2012-01-18 11:13:41 Thought I'd share an e-mail blast from Winex in CA I received today:
2008 THE BARGAIN VINTAGE
First, a brief slice of history. Let's think all the way back to 2005, only the second-vintage-of-the-century since the
Millennium. Yes the vintage was, indeed, special. But the Bordelais took the opportunity to test the water and
the prices were equally historic. Along came 2006, not quite 2005, in fact the ratings of the vintage were closer
to the unheralded 2004s when all was said and done. But the prices were typically closer to 2005.
In 2007, which was acknowledged as a difficult vintage, the Bordeaux chateaux decided it was time to back off
the extreme pricing they had been asking. So they did lower prices from the historic levels of 2005 and 2006, but
they were still substantially higher than most of the vintages that had preceded the groundbreaking '05s. Buyers
stayed away from the 2007s in droves and the Bordelais realized they had taken it too far.
The very good 2008s were their chance to make amends and get back the patrons they had lost, and those wines
were sold at the most aggressive prices that anyone had seen in years. Then China happened, creating new
demand for the very top wines. Then came the 'twin towers' of 2009 and 2010, which renewed testing of the
price waters and vaulted the costs per bottle to new heights.
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Bottom line, if you look at the vintage charts on the Wine Advocate sites, 2008 was visibly better than both 2006
2012-01-18 11:14:57 Thanks again, and believe me, you are keeping me sane and happy as well. Since today is a busy night with all the
kids' activities we will order pizza, cheese stakes and chicken wings. Parents and relatives are coming over so an
Italian wine night for us:
<a href="https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=927068" rel="nofollow">2009 I Stefanini Soave Il
Selese</a>
<a href="https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=481947" rel="nofollow">2005 Jacopo Biondi-Santi
Braccale</a>
<a href="https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=799202" rel="nofollow">2005 Angelo Negro e Figli
Roero Prachiosso</a>
<a href="https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1207462" rel="nofollow">2008 La Formica Amarone
della Valpolicella</a>
The real party is on Saturday, so if you are in the area - come on over!
2012-01-18 11:43:35 @mr21cbs: Let the party begin! Enjoy your day!
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2012-01-18 13:33:11 If anyone is shopping: This is decent, fairly traditional-style Brunello from Wine Library, 24 hrs only
93 WS & WA. Release price $50, we are 29.98! Huge Brunello Offer!
Today's offer is on the 2005 Pertimali Brunello di Montalcino
Wine Advocate Release Price: $55
Wine Spectator Release Price: $50
Wine Searcher Pricing as of today: $39.99 - $52.99
Wine Library limited time only price: $29.98 with the coupon code PERTIMALI
2012-01-18 13:40:52 Re: The QPR of the day:
The Las Rocas Vinas Viejas (old vines?) is even better. Generally worth the few dollars more.
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2012-01-18 13:48:41 John O': I agree and disagree with Winex. Their assertions are all correct. What they don't say is that in 2008
the left bank was plagued with torrential rains and lots of grey rot. The world wine reviewers generally dismissed
the entire vintage due to the weather and not the tastings. Parker did the tastings and wrote good reviews,
particularly for right bank. To some degree, the reviewers had to eat crow, at least for right bank wines. If you
look at Parker's charts, overall it appears to be pretty good both places: Pauillac (left) 91
Margaux (left) 90
Graves (left) 91
Pomerol (right) 96
Saint Emilion (right) 92
But, I partially disagree. I was in both parts at harvest. In the left bank they had to selectively harvest and they
left tons on the vine. I remember fields of unpicked fruit in Margaux. In a normal season they might spray 4
times with fungicides. In 2008 on the left bank they sprayed 20 to 40 times. I could taste it in the wines in the
tank (prior to wood).
While I think that Parker overrated the left Bank (which I liken closer to the 2007 vintage) I agree with his score
on Pomerol and would actually increase Saint Emilion from 92 to a 93 or 94.
Thus, I would highly recommend deals on the right bank but I'd be very cautious on the left bank. High end left
bank winemakers made the best of what they had and made good wines, for the vintage. I'd rather you spend
extra money and buy more '05 or '09 than find disappointment in 2008 left bank. I do think bargains can be
found in Saint Emilion and Pomerol. Oh, as for Sauternes in 2008, I'd avoid it. JMHO.
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2012-01-18 14:12:54 WTSO has Domaine Louis Latour
Corton Grand Cru
Clos du Roi 2008
This is a pretty solid red burgundy at a decent price (60 bones, 2 for FS).
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2012-01-18 14:32:18 @BB - Re: The Las Rocas Vinas Viejas. Yes, it means "old vines." I saw this on CT, but never saw it locally. It
intrigued me; I'll have to search further.
Re: the BdM - I'd love to pick up a few, but alas, no FS code... :cry:
2012-01-18 14:48:36 Birthday boy: Trying to rearrange my plans to see if I can make it on Sat! Will keep you posted... if not, soon!
2012-01-18 16:40:07 WiM the party is at our house after 6pm. Theme - Mexican, plenty of tequila, beer. Wine is always available, of
course. Our friends (most of whom you have met already) and no kids.
~
BuffaloLou, per your recommendation, picked up a 4 pack of Saviez Vineyards Napa Valley Zinfandel 2007, for
$18 and FS4, which is currently on WTSO. Got a few bottles of Peachy Canyon at the LWS. But tonight is the
Italian wine night.
2012-01-18 16:53:21 @mr21cbs Tequila... that beverage has a way of making me pay the morning after... does sound like a blast! I'll
let you know!
2012-01-18 17:15:05 WiM everyone drinks what they want. Rum, Vodka, Bourbon, Cognac will be on the counter. I have plenty of
good tequila that has been proven not to leave long term effects (at least for me :D). But you are welcome to pull
any bottle from my cellar and enjoy with the rest of us. I am certain that my friends from USSR will be enjoying a
variety of drinks. Oh and I ordered cheeses from the GourmetLibrary, which are arriving tomorrow.
~
If not this weekend, then whenever you are in Philly, we will definitely catch up.
2012-01-18 17:22:27 Hey BLou! Saviez Zin on WTSO. What say you, BLou?
2012-01-18 17:36:04 @mr21cbs - re: zin WTSO has the Saviez Vineyards Zinfandel 2007 for $17.99 FS/4. I'm in!
Edit: I didn't see louas' post before posting this.
To answer your question, "I'm in for a case." 'nuff said? :)
Seriously, great vintage for Cali, I love Saviez, and this was a very tiny production for them in '07, and might be
the last available on the 'Net (according to WTSO.) I love their Zin, so this was a no-brainer buy for me. The only
question was 'how much to buy?' Given the limited vintage, a case is a min buy for me.
Edit 2: Jeepers, I should have refreshed before posting! I see Michael is in, too. Cool! I hope you enjoy! And
Happy B-day, again!
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2012-01-18 17:39:26 I'm in too BLou! Thanks for the push.
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@louas - If you like Zin, I think you'll like it. And it's a great price, IMHO.
Happy birthday Mr21cbs!!!!
$50 Barolo on WTSO, 2005 and not even NEWMAN rated, pass.
@mr21cbs: Enjoy your day brother !
Happy BD Mr21cbs. Will you have to change your handle to Mr. 22 or remain 21 forever?
Thanks you, Everyone, for the birthday wishes. The wine is open, food is coming, let's the birthday party begin.
Talk you all tomorrow!
2012-01-18 23:19:55 Mrcbs21. They say its your Birthday! Well Happy Birthday to you.
Remember AEIOUSANDSOMETIMESY. ;)
2012-01-19 07:12:24 How do you know she is a witch?
She turned me into a Newt!
A Newt?
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I got better...
2012-01-19 09:26:36 Brooks, what in the world is AEIOUSANDSOMETIMESY? Help!
2012-01-19 09:50:18 A- E-I-O-U and sometimes Y are vowels ;)
2012-01-19 09:51:26 CBS: One does not go to Brooks for "help", he's pretty much beyond help himself....
These are the vowels in the alphabet: A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y.
Unless Brooks recovers, we'll probably never know what that has to do with anything. The boy obviously needs
to drink more Brunello.
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Happy birthday, BTW.
2012-01-19 10:03:14 Amen about Brunello. We all need to drink more of that. Yesterday had 2005 Jacopo Biondi-Santi Braccale, that I
picked up at CW. Very pleasantly surprised by how good it was for under $10. I am posting it as the QPR!
~
I have heard of the vowels and consonants, still puzzled, but I always am...
2012-01-19 11:15:53 Here's a clip from last March of @mr21cbs's boys in action (just the noise level is enough to make you drink wine
:D):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPmAURJgWr8
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2012-01-19 12:02:26 I missed the Jacopo Biondi-Santi Braccale on Cindy, I probably had no functioning credit card when it came up. A
shame, I'd have liked to try it. The family has a bit of history you know...
2012-01-19 13:29:03 Ha, funny... My two boys are in CR caps, and the other two are my nephews. (Greg - backstroke, Joshua - breast,
Jacob - fly, and Andrew, who is 8 here on a 10 & Under team - free style). A family team. Got 3rd place among 10
year olds. Not bad. Thanks for the memories.
2012-01-19 13:29:42 That '98 Chateau Simard @ $12 on Last Bottle went fast!
2012-01-19 14:01:26 Ahhh, the memories of swim meets...both mine as a Masters swimmer and those of my son and countless others
at which I timed, officiated, started, and finally, ran the concession stand to raise money for the team. I was kind
of surprised that some swimmers were not wearing Speedos, but instead had longer suits. Having been away
from these events for 20+ years, I am sure I have missed some of the changes. Back in the day, it was only
modesty which dictated the type of suit one wore, but coaches directives ruled, and that meant Speedos.
I'm guessing that Michael's boys are on the winning MR (2nd lane from the bottom from the appearance in the
video). If not, I apologize for being complimentary of the lead swimmer's backstroke form. I could never do that
stroke for some reason, probably because my legs were muscle and didn't float well. That swimmer looks sooo
relaxed, I envy him! I thought the breaststroker's form looked good as well, but then that was my most
competitive event/leg, so I am partial to those who swim it. The anchor freestyler really opened up the gap over
the adjacent two lanes which I could follow.
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Watching this video almost makes me want to go back to swimming and watching age group kids events again.
While the noise (especially in an indoor pool) can nearly drive one to drink, the enthusiasm of LOTS of kids (and
parents) screaming for their teammates is very addictive. I can understand why Michael does this.
2012-01-19 14:20:30 Michael: Had I refreshed before my post, I would have known the identities of the swimmers and their finish
place, but alas, I had to accept a 3 box shipment from WL from the FedEx driver (while my wife glared at me!). I
had better change the upcoming deliveries from wineaccess and garagiste to the FedEx & UPS stores so I
can receive those 10-11 cases surreptitiously.
I didn't comment on the Fly swimmer, since I wouldn't recognize good form from bad since I was even worse at
it. Your family is well represented in swimming and it's great that they could swim as a relay. In a few years,
perhaps they will be swimming for one of the several colleges who come to St. Petersburg in Jan/Feb to rent the
large municipal swimming facility for practices. If that happens and I am still alive and drinking wine, perhaps I
can watch them and we can drink some wine, should you still be inclined.
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2012-01-19 14:36:16 Wine Magnet, our boys were in lane 1, and ended up getting 3rd place, but were seeded 7th. This is Junior
Olympics, boys 10 and under. At our club they could not find a 10 year old to swim free style in the relay since
you must qualify. This resulted in an 8 year old, who did qualify to swim at JO to be on the team. He was nervous
beyond belief and getting 3rd place at a 10&U event, with some kids being close to 11, is an achievement.
One of my sons (who is in the backstroke leg of the relay in dark cap) is a very good backstroke swimmer. He
made Zone cut last summer in long course 50, 100m back. Greg fell behind from the start and could not catch up.
He has been working on starts for 9 months now and is pretty sound.
You are very accurate, as the orange cap is one of the best in the country! Josh, who swims breast, has an
outstanding technique in breast and fly, but can't swim backstroke.
Boys now aged into 12 and under as of October, and getting their butts kicked by the 12 year olds. Amazing
difference in size, speed, and cut off times.
I was a runner in my youth (1500, 3000 and 5000m), and although I enjoy watching them, swimming is a very
tough, competitive sport that I was never able to master. I just recently passed exams for a stroke and turn judge
2012-01-19 18:05:33 Ah, the old armpit fart warm up maneuver.
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Good luck to the boys Mike - nice race. Thanks Ludds
2012-01-19 18:49:16 I am so very tempted to go to the Bordeaux tasting in Chicago next week mentioned by Vinmoet as an early
birthday present to myself...
2012-01-19 21:02:54 More "Pee Not No Ear" on Cindy tonight. Easy pass for me...
22810 BuffaloLou
Presently drinking an '06 Bruce Wayne Winery "Brianna's Blend". I feel this is starting to fade. Fruit is starting to
become overpowered by the oak on the pnp. With some air (about an hour) it's better, but I think it's on its
downward spiral. Time to drink up!
2012-01-19 21:08:36 Re: Zinfandel & Saviez Vineyards.
22811 BuffaloLou
I exchanged emails with Saviez Vineyards owner, Paul Saviez. He informed me that he "is out of the wine
business." Sad. Very sad. His cousin has taken over the wine end of the biz (he is still involved with vineyard
management.) I will contact his cousin, Mike, to see what his plans are, but I can only hope that he continues the
terrific Zin's that Paul has been making.
2012-01-19 21:30:20 30 minutes after the "Cindy niner" and no posts on the offering page. Things have changed... ;-)
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2012-01-19 21:43:51 Check out these pipes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5wnbtnuSfk&feature=related
This young lady is only 17 at the time she sang this (a senior in high school.) She continues to sing for the Sabres
and the Buffalo Bandits (LAX). I saw her sing last weekend at the Bandit's game. Amazing voice! (The video truly
does't do her justice!)
BTW - Same arena, same pipes, but a "Bandits" game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9tUoQSbfwE&feature=related
Quad-trick. :)
speaking of change, how does it feel being banned?
Grow up Pete.
@Ki4K: I'm a well known enabler (ask @WiM), I say go for it! The chance to meet @vinny will be worth the price
of admission :D
Ki4K: The tasting is focused on 2009 Bordeaux. IMHO this vintage is better than 1982, 2000 and 2005. Go back
to the link and click on the list that will be there. There are only a handful of OK players, but a huge number of
big players and some rock stars. The sheer number of Chateaux present is amazing. This must be one of the
biggest tastings of its kind in the country. The price is way to cheap for what it is. Plus, go to hotels.com and you
will find all kinds of deals to stay over night. Its a slam dunk decision. Future vintages won't even be close.
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22820 BrunelloBob
2012-01-20 10:49:18 Anyone excited about Anything in the WL Clearance Sale?
22822 AdamEmp
22823 mr21cbs
22824 BrunelloBob
https://winelibrary.com/specials/14882-inventory-clearance-sale
2012-01-20 10:59:43 @Vinmoet - Which tasting is that? Thanks.
2012-01-20 11:08:37 AdamEmpire, here is the link: https://www.binnys.com/secure/events/
~
BrunelloBob, I went through the WL list and nothing peaked my interest. Have you seen anything worthy?
2012-01-20 11:08:57 Because the 2000 - Roagna Barbaresco Crichet is eating at me...
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2012-01-20 11:09:37 @luddite and @vinmoet - Enabling effective - I just sent a vacation request for next Thursday afternoon and
Friday. I was planning to take off the following Thursday and Friday for my birthday, but I'll just celebrate a week
early. Once I get the ok on that I'll get a ticket and book a hotel. Woo!
The only things I'm a little concerned about are how to choose what to taste with such a vast selection available
and how long it will take to start feeling like my mouth has been scrubbed out with tannins...
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22828 mr21cbs
2012-01-20 11:11:15 But that's about it.
The Burgs are interesting, but I'm clueless about Burgundy, and not sure I like them :)
2012-01-20 11:27:07 @mr21cbs - Thank you. There is one of those in New York as well that I will be attending. I will be sure to
post/tweet some of my notes.
2012-01-20 11:45:20 AdamEmpire, are you referring to this one: http://www.bottlenotes.com/union-des-grands-crus#NYC ?
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2012-01-20 11:48:55 @BrunelloBob- My main temptations in the clearance sale are a few high-end Rieslings and a Lagrein I really liked
in the 2007 vintage: https://winelibrary.com/wines/61250-09-ignaz-niedrist-lagrein
22830 BrunelloBob
2012-01-20 11:52:35 Kate: Agreed, there are some interesting rieslings.
The Lagrein, huh? Never heard of it. May have to grab one or two on your rec. Thanks. Love the importer's
description:
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22832 NaH
"Drink now with braised meats or hold for 3-5 years (maybe longer, I've never drunk an older Lagrein)." Importer"
2012-01-20 11:56:41 According to the website the one in NYC was last night Jan 19.
2012-01-20 12:02:28 I may go to the UGC tasting in NY. My friend is going, so I feel the need to go as well. He goes every year.
22833 BrunelloBob
2012-01-20 12:02:42 What's the date on that HMan?
22834 BrunelloBob
22835 hinrgman
Got a sign up link?
2012-01-20 12:09:28 Alright Kate, I'm IN on the lagrein.
Can't resist an Italian freak-job varietal.
Thanks again!
2012-01-20 12:12:26 Got the date wrong. Wrong tasting. Bordough is on Jan. 24. Next tuesday.
This is the one. - http://www.bottlenotes.com/union-des-grands-crus#NYC
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2012-01-20 12:29:31 Kate: I tried to narrow the list to a manageable level:
Red:
Branaire Ducru, Canon La Gaffeliere, Clinet, Giscours, Gruaud Larose, Canon, Leoville Barton, Pape Clement,
Rauzan Segla, Smith Haut Lafitte, Figeac, Clerc Milon, Grandy Mayne, Lagrange and Lynch Bages.
Sauternes:
Guiraud
La Tour Blanche
Suduiraut
The wines are young and will be tannic, but 2009 is much more approachable than, say 2005. I like this tasting.
22837 vinmoet
2012-01-20 12:35:45 Kate & others: I've got a large transaction that happens that day which could melt down and take all day
going in to the next day. A way of explaining that I may or may not make the tasting. I also have some business
folks who want to meet with me there and after the tasting. It may be that I book my hotel room on my way up
to the City.
If my schedule were more reliable that day I would love to try to coordinate a vintage-Cindy/inmate outing
at/after the event since the venue would be perfect and it would be fun to sample some older Bordeaux after
slugging down the younger stuff. But, right now, the stars aren't aligning that way.
22838 AdamEmp
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2012-01-20 12:54:57 The one I am going to is on the 25th
2012-01-20 13:29:45 @BrunelloBob- I hope you find your Lagrein experience as fun as I did mine. I remember the flavour profile of
the 2007 from the same producer as being an almost exact match for the blueberry landjaeger I served at the
tasting (I don't usually eat meat, but I make an exception with Italian wines).
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2012-01-20 13:31:56 @vinmoet - Thanks for the short list! I have never had a Sauternes before, so I am excited for a chance to try
some. I hope your schedule works out such that you will be able to make it, but life does sadly sometimes get in
the way of wine.
2012-01-20 14:35:06 Kate: The sauternes is dessert, so save it for the end. Like the red wines, it is way too young to drink now but it
will be more approachable than the reds. I think that the '09 Sauternes should be really in its prime in 2025 but it
will last easily, if stored properly, through 2060. Liquid gold. All three that I listed are very, very respectable.
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2012-01-20 15:24:29 @ all Inmates: I have been asked to provide the wine for the entrée this evening at a very nice dinner in a casual
setting. The main entrée is New York strip steaks, which our gracious host is broiling in an olive oil/garlic/mustard
sauce. The meat will be accompanied by roasted winter vegetables. Several possibilities have crossed my mind
from a bordeaux blend to a zinfandel and everything in between. Any suggestions you might offer would be
greatly appreciated!
2012-01-20 15:42:43 Dry Rose'.
But I can't stand the stuff, so I'd probably scrape off the sauce and suck down a Big Napa Cab with the steak.
(Can't take me anywhere....) :lol:
2012-01-20 16:10:48 Thanks, BB: put on your shoeshoes and come and join us!
Several Brunellos out there today, Cindy and the other Gary. Are you biting on either?
2012-01-20 16:13:14 What are you serving with the steak?
2012-01-20 16:26:53 Mic: I think you're seeing Barolos, not Brunello!
There seems to be a lot of discounted Barolo around in that Quality/Price ratio. I've laid down a few, but they're
such long agers.... I'm trying to save room for the Really good stuff.
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I've got too much Brunello, too, but I keep buying. At least I should be able to drink most of those in less than a
decade...
2012-01-20 16:48:36 @McMalbec: You can't beat a good bottle of Mateus with Steak!!
2012-01-20 17:12:13 as many of you know, I like to share little glimpses into my life here in VT.......sometimes the story is warming and
uplifting, sometimes it is mournful and disturbing....such is life.............today I received a text from my oldest son
(22 years old) at 12:20 p.m. that simply said "Love you Dad".........shortly thereafter I learned that this text was
prompted by the devasting news that one of my son's long time firends had lost his father....as difficult as this is,
it was compounded by matter in which his father passed..........this once vibrant family man had become
homeless and was found wrapped in a blanket in the woods near a local university........he had been homeless for
several years...............depression and dependency have no boundaries...........l shared this in hopes of not being a
"downer", to the contrary, I shared this as a simple reminder to embrace all that truly matters.......
2012-01-20 17:13:23 @Vinny: I called the chef for the menu specifics. The steaks will be grilled in a cherry sauce, which is red wine
based with minced garlic, tarragon and dijon mustard.
Vegtables with be a baked potato medley, including red and sweet.
Arugula leaf salad, with sliced pears, beets and peppers.( will use a different wine for this course)
2012-01-20 17:18:01 @louas: my last experience with Mateus was with bellbottom jeans on a Beautiful Day in 1970.
Go Bucky!
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2012-01-20 17:23:00 McMalbec - did that include platform shoes?
2012-01-20 17:23:46 I like the idea of a medium to big bodied red. I like the idea of a Cali Cab or a Zin or a modern style Bordeaux.
If I were picking a Bordeaux that you could readily buy from WL and was drinkable now (with an hour+ of
decanting) I would pick
https://winelibrary.com/wines/23336-03-chat-d-aiguilhe-castillon for $30
or
https://winelibrary.com/wines/64142-03-chateau-malescot-st-exupery for $85
or
https://winelibrary.com/wines/23160-03-chateau-leoville-barton for $150
22856 BrunelloBob
22857 BrunelloBob
2012-01-20 17:39:43 Cherry sauce changes Everything: Brunello. :)
(A Good chianti will do in a pinch)
2012-01-20 17:42:17 T.O. : As Brooks would say, "Hold fast to that which is good"
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TonyO
WineKnurd
WineKnurd
TonyO
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22863 TonyO
22864 WineKnurd
But you already got that figured out.
@BB...........as do you (and Brooks) and many here in TH my friend....
What is everyone drinking tonight? I am thinking about popping an Ondarre Reserva Rioja
BLou, shiraz or zin tonight?
2002 Jade Mountain Syrah.............very nice............Mrs. TonyO has introduced our 7 year old daughter to the
Brady Bunch....sure beats most of what is on t.v. for children today !
2012-01-20 18:59:12 TonyO where is that one from, CA? WA?
2012-01-20 19:09:22 @WK: the wine and the Brady's are from CA (Mt Veeder for teh wine and I would have to ask Mrs. TonyO about
the specific location of the Brady's.....)this was a Last Bottle deal...some bottles were oxidized (and fully refunded
I must add)..the ones that weren't are tremendous
2012-01-20 19:34:34 Mt Veder, very nice!
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2012-01-20 19:40:47 @Tony O. Yes, the 2002 Jade Mtn Para's have ben terrific. No bad bottles for me, so far.
Just got in my stash of 2004 same.
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22867 BrunelloBob
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22869 NY Pete
22871 David T
22872 BuffaloLou
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22877 Hinrgman
At one time Cindy was the go to site.
Then it was Empire.
Now, Last Bottle for sure.
2012-01-20 19:46:49 @John O' : agree about Last Bottle................some great wines that I have not seen on any other sites........very
quality focused
2012-01-20 19:51:40 I'm on the 2000 Seavey Cab.
I've pulled some decent, semi-aged cabs out of The Temple (2002 Scherer, 2003 Andrew Geoffrey come to
mind). This one's decent, but not as good as some prior efforts by the minions of the demigod.
2012-01-20 21:57:04 Looks like we are all drinking well tonight!
2012-01-20 23:48:02 I try to drink well every night ... :)
2012-01-20 23:50:36 Based on BrunelloBob's comments, I also popped a 00 Seavey Cab tonight. If you bought any, I would
recommend trying one now. 90DT; very good but not great.
Regarding the flash deal site commentary, in the past two months I have still purchased more from Cindy than
elsewhere primarily due to a higher number of riesling/nebbiolo offerings, though overall my purchases from
them are down A LOT. I agree both Last Bottle and Empire have offered numerous quality deals the last few
months and I have purchased from both.
2012-01-21 00:49:09 @TO - TY for sharing the story. It's all too important to slow down and spedt time with loved ones. The story
drives that point home.
@Knurd - Coffee and water tonight... Camping with the troop this weekend! Winter Klondike!! That said, I
haven't had a Shiraz in a while; I should pop one Sunday...
2012-01-21 04:50:31 So far this year I have consumed 14 bottles (the majority at a tasting I hosted) and only purchased 6. I'm really
hoping to start making some progress on drinking the cellar down instead of perpetually building it up. I had a
vague goal of only purchasing 6 bottles this month, but there are still 10 days left, so we shall see if I hold out.
The two bottles I bought this month and already drank don't count against my total, right? And the 3 bottles
from Garagiste that I won't see until Spring can't possibly count, either. ;)
2012-01-21 08:50:47 Anyone know about the LBW offer - Chateau Duplessy 2006 Magnum
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2012-01-21 09:19:45 Kate you are right. According to paragraph 17 sub-paragraph 3B of the TH by-laws, the equation for figuring out
how many bottles you have purchased in a month must be be verifiable in inventory, i.e., if you buy 4 bottles at
the beginning of Jan but drink 2 before Feb, you have only bought 2 bottles that month.
Sub-paragraph 4B goes on to say that purchases made in a month for future delivery can either be allocated to
the month they were ordered OR the month they were shipped, depending on how a particular month's
allocations are totaling. This decision does not have to be made until the wines are actually delivered.
Remember, these laws are here to protect us from the heathens who think we "buy too much wine".
Hope that helps clear things up.
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22883 BrunelloBob
22884 SS Chris
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2012-01-21 09:43:42 Knurd ... with your last comment, you sound like SS Chris ... :P
2012-01-21 09:45:49 Knurd: I need a complete copy of the TH bylaws, as I just quoted the portions you provided as a rationale for
buying still more wine and a reason for consuming still more to keep the net change in line. Unfortunately, it fell
on deaf ears
2012-01-21 12:13:02 Anyone score the 2005 Chateau Guiraud Sauternes from JJBuck?
2012-01-21 15:25:01 @BBob, what was the '05 Guiraud going for? I see that it's currently showing $38 for the 375's and $65 for 750
on JJB, but assuming the sale price was better? I was lucky enought to pick up a 6-pack of 750's for $25 per a few
years ago, but would love to grab some more....
While I'm here, belated Happy Birthday to MIke!!!
2012-01-21 15:35:42 Thank you, SS Chris, always a pleasure seeing you in our humble establishment.
2012-01-21 15:47:06 2005 Chateau Guiraud Sauternes:
PCP:
375ml:$25.50
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750ml:$48.50
2012-01-21 16:03:57 BrunelloBob what is PCP? Is there a link, coupon, etc. for these prices? The JJBuckley site is showing very
different prices for this wine.
~
Any thought on the Domaine De Saint Paul Chateauneuf-Du-Pape 2009 for $25 and FS4 on WTSO?
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2012-01-21 16:23:53 CBS: I'm not familiar with it. I am usually more confident with a Parker &/or Rhone Report review, but WS
is OK for Rhone in my book. I don't plan on going for it though the QPR looks pretty good.
22889 NY Pete
2012-01-21 16:39:09 PCP = Private Client Price over @ JJ Buckley
22890 vinmoet
Michael ... you need someone to refer you and your email address
2012-01-21 16:44:28 Took the family to an Illinois/Iowa State hockey game last night. Lasted first two periods. Very rowdy with
drunken college kids on a Friday night. 14 yo and 11 yo daughters not impressed with the language. Didn't get
the 11 yo to start booing the other team until the second period. My 8 yo son, however, was in heaven. "Boy, its
really fast dad. Tough like football, fast like basketball. You get to hit people? That's great. Why do they yell
'you suck' at the visiting team?"
We saw one fight. Then, later, watched a brawl. 3 players from each team were ejected, more put in the box.
They played the rest of the game with 4 players for each team on the ice. The Illini ended up losing, but we had
an absolute blast. Another game tonight, my son is lobbying me to take him.
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22892 BrunelloBob
22893 BURGHen Boy
22894 johnr
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2012-01-21 16:58:21 @CBS: If you're not on the JJBuck "private client" thing, you want to be. Not every offer is great, but every now
and then they come up with a good one. They'll routinely aggregate orders too, so you can order a bottle or two
at a time and save on shipping. Some real quality stuff, on average.
If you're not on a JJBuck list and want to be, let me know. Drop me an email with the address you want them to
use and I'll refer you.
2012-01-21 16:59:14 Credit to JohnR, by the way, who referred me.
Where iis dat Bad Boy?
2012-01-21 18:00:30 Enjoy your Sat. night Inmates.
Teeing up some Burgess 97 Cab and some 06 Ridge Lytton Springs (from the Empire 375's)
Some Belle Glos Meomi as backup JIC
Rock and Roll
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofh15rYolp4&feature=related
2012-01-21 18:12:51 I'm here......lurk mainly, trying to avoid drama.
2012-01-21 18:33:07 @B²: I'm on the Buckley PCP list but didn't receive that offer. I get my offers from Neil. Do you get yours from
someone else?
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2012-01-21 18:49:45 JohnR Lives! That's good.
Dude, you need to chime in every now and then...
@BBoy: Good luck with the age on the Burgess. Let us know how you make out. I'm curious...
Ludds: Yeah, my JJBuck guy is Geoff. I had this conversation a couple of months ago. I think with NaH--- another
where-iis-he-lately kinda-dude...Consensus was: Not everyone sees the same deals, depending on who your
salesman is. If you're interested in the Sauternes, email your guy and see if he'll sell it to you at my price. I'm
betting that, if it's not a sellout, you'll be able to get it.
22897 Johnr
22901 BaroloDude
We should all start comparing notes on JJBuck offers...
2012-01-21 20:29:46 They will sell you any private client deals if u ask.
2012-01-22 01:44:16 saw all the Lagrein posts... if you want to learn more, a great SF Chronicle article just a week or so ago on the
wines of the Alto Adige...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/08/FDJ61ML0VT.DTL
a snippet:
"Like its Germanic neighbors, Alto Adige is synonymous with white wine in the eyes of most consumers. Pinot
Bianco, Chardonnay, Gewürztraminer and, especially, Pinot Grigio accounted for more than 40 percent of the
2010 harvest, according to EOS, a local growers' consortium. When it comes to the numbers, red varieties take a
backseat, with two notable exceptions: Schiava and Lagrein.
Thin-skinned Schiava, indigenous to the Italian Alps, yields a red wine that is light, refreshing and humble. Its
name means "slave," which seems appropriate given that schiava is the region's most widely planted grape. The
fuller-bodied Lagrein is less of a workhorse, and is often used on its own, as a rosé called Kretzer, or to bolster
the color of other reds.
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2012-01-22 11:02:16 Friday nite around 5ish, Ms. Louas walks into kitchen/ family room where I am trying to find room for 2 cases of
wine from Garagiste.
Ms.Louas: What are you doing?
Me:Trying to figure out where to put this wine that just arrived
Ms: Hmmm. I thought you weren't going to buy any more wine until we reduced the pile???
Me: You are right! This was ordered and PAID for over the summer!
Ms: Cool!! What are drinking tonite?
And so it was a peaceful evening in casa Louas!!
@Vinmoet: We too went to college hockey Friday nite. Arizona vs. Davenport. This is club level hockey. Not
quite division I and nowhere near the level I am accustomed to from my days at UW. We take Ms. Louas' 25 yr
old special needs son who loves to go to hockey games at cheer for the U of A! He operates at about 5 yrs old
and loves it when they crash into the boards (whoa!) and laughs when they fall on the ice. The goals are a
distraction as they stop play for a bit. The chant here after a goal is "He shoots. He scores. Hey Goalie, YOU
SUCK! Its all your fault, It's all you fault, etc) Totally get why your youngest digs the action.
FWIW: Last nite we had a bottle of 2009 Morgon Les Charmes that we got from Garagiste. One of the most
satisfying and surprisingly good $15 bottles in a very very long time.
22905 WineKnurd
Question: R U READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?????????? The best Football day of the year today (IMHO)!
2012-01-22 12:26:41 Is Last Call better than Last Bottle? I am trying to figure out which one I want to devote some time to.
22906 NaH
2012-01-22 12:28:38 BBob I'm around. Mostly lurking. Trying to stay away from the enablers so my SIWBM stays effective~! LOL
22907 luddite
2012-01-22 12:34:13 @BURGHen Boy: That would be the much maligned Ridge Lytton Spring juice boxes. Please let us know your
thoughts....
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22909 luddite
@Knurd: Last Bottle - it's a slam dunk!
2012-01-22 13:00:07 Thanks Luddite! One of these days you will have to make the trek down with WiM to an NC tasting.
2012-01-22 13:07:18 @Knurd: Thanks! At this time of year, it would be the trek up :D
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2012-01-22 13:19:02 @louas: You've received wines from garagiste? I've got 3 orders which show in OARS as being "arrived" but they
have not mentioned anything about shipping. I'm waiting for the CdP Mystery wines 24 & 25 from 7/31 to
change from "pre-arrival" and be shipped. It seems like nearly 6 months after payment is a long wait for wines to
arrive. Of course the mystery wines I have bought have been great values, so I'm hoping these are worth the
wait.
@Barolo Dude: Do you know anything about this barolo?:
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=7tjix5bab&v=0019K7_GMZJyCOjAeBpGzDTA_ZCH4bMSiBwINFdRXF3FFbzQaqng3TOq6goY43AA5LX97TpEWDd4coX71ykskYzymzpewKAjcpfHnFL
Eqt5TU%3D
2012-01-22 13:39:33 Luddite you in Tampa?
2012-01-22 14:49:25 @BaroloDude - thanks for the link to the Alto Adige article. I haven't tried a Schiava yet and now I am really
curious (as long as I don't have to call it Vernatsch). *laugh*
2012-01-22 14:52:40 @B2 - 97 Burgess was definitely on the downslope. Not dead but getting there. Some hints of dark fruit but faint
and not complex. Saving grace is that there is little to no oak and the tannins are smooth so it drinks like a
quaffer though a bit dull. I have 1 more 97 and 1 98. Will drink soon.
@luddite - didn't hit the 375 Ridge, we had a CH 179 instead and drank the 2010 Meomi. Those 2 bottles always
hit the mark.
2012-01-22 15:04:24 @Knurd: If I was in Tampa, I would be doing my best to help @WM drink down his cellar :D Not quite as warm,
but almost always s**w free, here in Myrtle Beach!
@BURGHen Boy: Agree with you re Lot 179 - it's Havens Heaven and I have almost as much as @Brooks!
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2012-01-22 16:15:51 @ whomever ... go ravens
22917 BrunelloBob
@ whomever ... go giants
2012-01-22 18:13:27 Right about now is when I dial in on the Patriots bandwagon :lol:
22918 louas
22919 David T
(NFL Field Goal Kicker: Worst Job in Sports)
2012-01-22 20:23:52 @wine magnet: I call the warehouse when there are a couple of cases in "arrived" status. Now is great for
shipping in AZ. They have always been very cooperative. 206-264-1494 is warehouse number.
2012-01-22 22:15:23 Another attempt at blind tasting tonight. Lots of nice wines opened, though again I didn't do too well. Looking
forward to refining my palate and doing more of it.
http://forums.winelibrary.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=38879
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2012-01-23 08:09:00 The only way I'm any good at blind tastings is if they are limited to no more than three wine: one red, one white,
one sparkling.
2012-01-23 11:19:30 BBob: Its very possible to get confused between white and red too.
2012-01-23 12:14:54 Vinny
What do you think of 2009 Ch Mongravey from Margaux for $30?
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CT for previous vintages range in high 80's. I think en 1er pricing was $25~
2012-01-23 13:04:55 Don't know anything about it, NaH. What I could find out about it is that there is no Parker review for it, that
Jancis Robinson gave it 15.5/20 (which is OK), and that WS was 90-93 points.
You might find this to be fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hcWPSm2-KE
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My take is that this is a Margaux which is predominately Cab Sauv. using modern techniques from OK terroir in a
great vintage. There will be a lot of these types of wines in this vintage. Sub $30 is OK, but sub $25 would make
me more interested. This is not rock star stuff.
2012-01-23 13:27:34 For Rock Star stuff--Go to Italy :lol:
2012-01-23 20:11:19 A belated thank you to those of you who offered suggestions on Friday for a wine pairing with a grilled New York
strip steak in cherry sauce. I brought two bottles along in hopes of doing some reconnaissance on the effect of
the cherry sauce! Since it didn't appear like it would have a major influence on the flavor of the meat, I went with
a 2003 Ty Caton Cabernet Sauvignon. I thought it was a very nice match and the other diners must have agreed
with me as it disappeared quickly. Definitely a Sonoma Cab but in the unique "Ty" style. Deep nose and flavors
with a medium to long finish.
The backup bottle was a 2007 Flora Springs Trilogy. A Bordeaux blend, it was very enjoyable exhibiting good
nose, nice balance with a long finish. We finished it off sitting around the fireplace.
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2012-01-23 21:25:06 Survived the tequila party with just a bit of a hangover the morning after. Plenty of water, some crackers, and
not even a Motrin and I was ready for some football. I think I will skip tequila for a while now.
Good games, except the Flyers loss.
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22937 BuffaloLou
2012-01-23 23:45:58 Why is it always most windy on garbage night?
2012-01-24 13:29:40 Clos LaChance Petite Sirah Vertical 3-Pack (2007-08-09) on Woot. $50.
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2012-01-24 14:47:29 anyone familiar with Kermit Lynch wines. 2009 Cotes du Rhone for $12 at B-21. Sounds like a winner but I'm
flying blind Any direction would be appreciated.
@BLou:The PS Vertical on Wine Woot is screamin at me but I've not pulled the trigger yet. Your thoughts???
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2012-01-24 15:02:29 Louas: Kermit Lynch is very well thought of. The guy has disciples that will buy anything with his name on it. The
couple I've had REALLY haven't been my style, however. My sense is that the wines are well made for the
pricepoint, but you gotta like a particular style. This is a pretty classic tasting note I ripped off the other day:
22940 joe g
2012-01-24 15:53:06 in reference to the qprs that are posted.... remember that part of qpr is quality and price... in todays case, the
argument that an 86pt wine for $17 is closer to an ass beating than a good deal... for that quality, you should
never have to spend above $7 or 8 in a white.. . if its best attribute is 'crisp and refreshing', then you just
described 99% of all white wines in the world, most of which could cost less than half this
22941 BrunelloBob
2012-01-24 16:28:47 Interesting. OK, I'll bite:
Wine Library lists 978 whites on their website.
128 of those are priced $8.50 (half of $17) or less.
128/978 = 13%. Far less than 50% ("most of which could cost less than half this".)
So is the Demigod giving his customers an "ass beating"?
Or is QPR in the eye of the beholder? It's quite possibe Luddite would score this higher than 86 points, but he's a
big boy and can speak for himself.
22942 joe g
Speaking for myself, I wouldn't describe "99% of all white wines in the world" as "crisp and refreshing" You can
throw out all over-oaked Cali chards, for starters...
2012-01-24 17:18:14 bob, all this proves is that WL sells 128 wines less than $8.50.. it is irrelevant here as there are no qualitative
assesments to go along with the price points.. you are trying to argue qpr with only the p. a q is needed in this
discussion as well for your "bite" to merit teeth.
btw, i never said half of WL whites portfolio is under $8.50. i said that you could get the same quality as this
listed qpr for 1/2 the price in many cases.. big difference
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2012-01-24 17:21:39 bob, i will throw out all over oaked cali chards (a very, very minor percentage of the white wines in the world) as
you are correct they are not necessarily crisp and refreshing... that still leaves the very high majority of them as
such
2012-01-24 17:37:24 I'm a wine novice with a baby palate that can't put together a decent TN while @joe g is a sommelier. I have no
desire to argue and wind up receiving verbal "ass beating," on top of the lecture I've just received for
recommending an overpriced wine.
2012-01-24 17:44:06 @ludds - Not to worry, we still love ya!
22946 joe g
@all - Cancer touches just about everyone, one way or another. This is huge news from Roswell Park Cancer
Institute here in Buffalo. Read here: http://www.wben.com/Roswell-Park-Unveils-Cancer-VaccineProcess/12083319
2012-01-24 17:48:06 wow... sensitive bunch.. sorry guys.
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luds, i never said you had a baby palate or knocked your ability to write a tasting note.. nor am i giving you and
ass beating for it.. i am saying that if i pay that much for a wine of that quality then i dont feel good about it.. i am
just trying to let you guys know that there is better qpr's out there than this.. you can do with this info what you
want...
2012-01-24 18:11:09 Thank you Brunello Bob
2012-01-24 18:49:20 I'm gonna buy a bottle of this in solidarity with Luddite!
2012-01-24 19:07:34 @B²: Appreciate the solidarity but I respect @joe g's knowledge. So looking at other Arneis TNs, you might be
better off with this:
http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=875752
2012-01-24 19:14:33 In reference to qpr: "A good deal is a state of mind".................
2012-01-24 19:29:14 question for BrunelloBob
why the hard on for Vaynerchuk?
2012-01-24 19:48:45 attn CH junkies, I drank my last bottle of the lot 179 during the 49ers game Sunday night. Alas it did not help Kyle
Williams field a punt, but I thought it was still drinking very well. Still lots of good solid fruit and some bits of
sediment in the bottle, I thought the texture was smoother than I remembered. Was a hit with the non-wine
drinkers (though I do have to disclose that some of the non-wine drinkers brought bottles of Barefoot Moscato)...
2012-01-24 19:58:28 @Ludds: DavidT 90 points, thats gotta be worth something!
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2012-01-24 21:30:29 Joe G, firstly I did not know that you are a sommelier. Kudos to you!
~
On the subject of QPR, inmates submit their recommendations via a form that is accessible to everyone. Then I
use the median CT rating, divide it by the median lowest 5 prices from the wine-searcher and post the score,
along with the information and a blurb if/when appropriate. Since the rating that I post is based on very current
figures but the wine could have been purchased at a special discount from a winery, wine club, super sale, etc. or
acquired a long time ago, it is not fair to judge whether the same number for the "P" should be used in the rating.
Moreover, if Luddite rated this wine 93, but someone had a corked bottle, or whatever else, and gave lower
scores multiple times for the badly stored case that they drank that will skew the "Q". I think in this discussion it
becomes apparent that I should not be posting a QPR score, as it is irrelevant. Plus as a potential buyer I will
judge it for myself whether the suggestion comes from somebody with a similar palate than mine, and I am
willing to sacrifice my money to try it.
~
I would encourage you to submit a few QPRs, stick around, share your knowledge and opinion. It could be fun,
you know?!
2012-01-24 21:37:51 @Louas - Sorry, I missed your question before re the PS vertical on woot. Limited info available; ditto TNs, but
there is a little out there and the producer seems to have good experience with PS. Looked good to me, I liked
the price, went in for two deals.
Today would have been John Belushi's 63rd B-day. One of the funniest people I've ever seen. Here's some John,
er, Jake, er, Samurai, er...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FtKGPIiRyM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oSfptHxt5s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxZt4Kxj2cE
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22958 mr21cbs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrxSM_Gxtqw&feature=related
2012-01-24 21:42:28 @cbs: Just a thought: If the submitter provides his/her rating, I would like to see it. We're a small group and I
think we've come to know how each other rates wines, at least generally, and the input from each other means a
lot more than a CT score from an unknown person.
My half cent...
2012-01-24 21:46:40 BuffaloLou, point well taken. How do we deal with the Price?
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2012-01-24 21:54:31 @cbs: While the submitter bases his/her QPR rating on what he/she paid, we can only purchase at the present
cost, so I like what you have been doing. It gives a relative "present" QPR ratio. What it was when the submitter
purchased it is irrelevant as it probably can't be purchased at that price any longer. I think we all understand the
details.
2012-01-24 21:54:43 BrunelloBob: I hope you didn't mean to suggest that the Kermit Lynch CT link you provided for the "Cypress" CdR
was the same as the one currently offered by B-21. The Cypress is probably an 86-87 at best. The Kermit Lynch
CdR is a different cuvee,which I have yet to try.
I am a Kermit Lynch "disciple" and have found most of his selections to be right in my palate wheelhouse over
the last 19-20 years. Perhaps you don't like old world style unfiltered wines, which are hallmarks of his selections.
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2012-01-24 22:02:41 Have to agree with Wine Magnet that Kermy keeps it old school. Even now that the wineries let him have a hand
in the winemaking, he stays true to the region.
2012-01-24 22:46:32 mr cbs... thank you for the explanation.. i had no idea what those numbers represented.. i see a mid 80pt rated
wine at $17, my only point is to say that there are much better deals out there than this... wishing i hadnt now, it
would have at least saved bb 17 bucks ;)
2012-01-24 22:50:38 luddite... that other arneis you posted is a good example of what i am talking about... same price as todays' qpr,
yet a significantly higher quality wine
2012-01-25 00:44:23 Trivia time inmates! Who:
1) successful musician
2) PhD in Electrical Engineering
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3) U.S. Senator?
2012-01-25 05:22:07 Mags: Correct, I was answering the general question" "anyone familiar with Kermit Lynch wines" as opposed to
the specific re: B-21. I could have been clearer on that. I've had other Kermits besides the Cypress, but have no
notes.
As to "old world": depends on your definition. I've had plenty of old world wines that I like, including more
traditionally styled Brunello. I do prefer fruit, as opposed to vegetable, in my wine, though both are a matter of
degree. And I certainly enjoy a good fruit bomb every now and then.
As to unfiltered: I think the one thing I liked about the Cypress was the body and you could probably blame that
on a lack of filtration.
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2012-01-25 14:10:42 Kate: Found out that I will be unable to go to the Chicago tasting. Sent my e tickets to nephew and his new bride
who live there. Also sent them the list of recommendations that I provided to you. Am pleased that you are
going...you should have a blast. Am also very jealous and a bit bummed that I can't make it. I tasted most of
these in the tank at the various Chateaux prior to being put in the barrel. Really just marvelous. Remember that
you will be tasting wines that really need another decade to begin to show their potential. Some will be partially
decanted but there won't be any shortage of tannins.
HAVE A GREAT TIME!!!
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22974 BuffaloLou
22976 John O'
2012-01-25 21:42:41 Are we on line? No posts for 8 hours?
2012-01-25 22:04:13 Vinmoet - I'm sorry you won't be able to make it! It would have been marvelous to get to meet you and try to
soak up some of your Bordeaux knowledge in person. I am definitely excited for the tasting, though, and will
report back.
2012-01-25 22:39:25 Enjoying a Cameron Hughes Lot 88 2006 Zinfandel Amador County Ancient Vines. Very nice, killer QPR. Wish I
bought a few cases! BL90.
I'll second WM's concern, where is everyone? I hope you're all drinking some good vino!
2012-01-26 06:34:17 Need some help from the inmates. I have enough wine to last me for 5 years, but lack everyday drinking whites
for me and the Mrs. I know it's hip to like obscure varietals, but what I'm looking for is a killer QPR Chardonnay.
My model is the Chateau St. Michelle Chardonnay of a year or two ago that scored a Wine Advocate 90 and could
be found for $9 or $10.
Suggestions would be most helpful if accompanied by where it could be ordered.
Thanks in advance.
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2012-01-26 07:54:02 @John 'O: One of our former QPRs was the '09 Foxglove Chardonnay ($12). Here's what @vinny and "the
Robert" had to say about it:
With regards to the QPR, this is nice Cali Chard that is not too oaked and is really well made, particularly at this
price point. Its not the most complex wine in the world but it just seems to be the kind of wine that goes with
summer. Parker scored it a 90: "This terrific portfolio of values is led by Foxglove’s remarkable 2009 Chardonnay,
a non‐oaked, stainless steel‐fermented and aged white that sees no malolactic fermentation. Moreover, there
are 30,000 cases of this beauty, a blend of two‐thirds Santa Barbara County fruit and the rest from Paso Robles
and further north in Monterey. It exhibits crisp honeyed lemon, citrus, poached pear, and honeysuckle notes
intermixed with a hint of pineapple. However, it is the zesty acidity, stunning purity, and delightful balance this
naked Chardonnay possesses that make it so appealing."
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22979 vinmoet
2012-01-26 09:55:50 No wine last nite.. Went to a Tucson restaurant called May's Counter, known for their fried chicken and waffles.
Had the sit at the bar special: "Pint and a Pound" which is a pint of beer and a pound of fried chicken! Talk about
a QPR!
2012-01-26 11:30:06 John O/Luddite: I looked at the cellartracker comments and one referenced it as an Antonio.G. review and not a
Parker review. I went on erobertparker to make sure that my memory was correct and found that it was. They
show it as a Parker review.
I don't know if it ranks 90 points by my standards, but I thought this a very pleasant, correct Chard that didn't use
oak to sell itself...a great QPR. Parker noted that it should be drunk within a year. I don't drink enough unoaked
Cali Chard to know any differently. So, just a hint that his site shows it as being old already. I'd personally still
buy it in 2012 but would want to know that it was stored in a cool place.
Louas: Gotta love it. So, what kind of beer did you select?
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2012-01-26 11:34:40 @ john o the kommander also was a fan of the chateu michelle 08. In that range, the kommander suggests the
novellum 09 chard. Kamp kaos goes through this juice faster than navy seals go thru somalia. available @ the
temple for 10 bones.
Kaos out
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2012-01-26 11:37:19 John O:
Among my favorite (which usually means "what my wife likes" since I don't drink much white) Chards/white
wines are:'08 &'09 Porta from Chile (Sarasota Fine Wines and Tastings) $5 when I bought it several months
ago; 2010 Chateau de Fontenille Grand Vin de Bordeaux (40% Sauv. B,20% Sauv. Gris, 20% Muscadelle, 20%
Semillon: $10 at thewinetobuy.com when I bought it; Cameron Hughes Lot 145, $9 at thewinetobuy.com within
the last 3 months and about $11 at Sam's Club (Phredd gave it 88 on CT and thinks it is a good buy under $15),
and 2008 Domaine Bernard Defaix Chablis, about $16 from an online WS somewhere on the East coast, which I
did not record in CT cataloging. In the summer or with spicy seafood/Thai dishes, we both like Symphony (a cross
between two French vinifera varieties: Muscat of Alexandria and Grenache Gris) in Obsession, produced by
Ironstone, which is usually $15. Symphony is sometimes a little too sweet, but the floral/fruity nose is delightful
to enjoy while the wine warms up a little in one's glass.
2012-01-26 11:40:26 @ john o the kommander also was a fan of the chateu michelle 08. In that range, the kommander suggests the
novellum 09 chard. Kamp kaos goes through this juice faster than navy seals go through somalia. available @ the
temple for 10 bones.
Kaos out
2012-01-26 12:08:24 EmpireAdam
Well played jumping the noon Wine Library Bordeaux deal.
2012-01-26 19:13:10 @Vinmoet: Last nite's beer du jour was Tuck Rooster Brew. It is made for the restaurant locally, but they won't
disclose which local brewer makes it. A light amber brew that seemed just about right.
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John O'
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2012-01-26 22:40:33
@John O' The wine is just about sold out now.
@Adam - Hope you have many more deals like that. +1
Which Empire deal are you guys talking about?
@buff lou
same as the wine library big banner deal, except free ship on 4. being a NYS resident, not quite as good for me as
out of towners.
AdamEmpire had Chateau Haut Barrail Medoc 2009, for $14.95 and 12FS, although it was in the free shipping on
a mixed case of 12.
~
John O', the 4FS currently offers Bodega Norton 'Reserva' Malbec 2007 @ $12.95
Anyone has any experience with Crescendo 2006 Cabernet Sauvignon Napa Valley? LBW $18 and 6FS... CT
Wow, back from the UGC tasting and that was definitely an *experience*! Thanks so much to Vinmoet for
mentioning it! I will post more when I am coherent!
@John O & cbs - thanks gents!
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2012-01-27 06:32:22 Nice looking 2007 Rivetto Barolo Serralunga on WTSO
94WS 94WE $37.49 FS2
Dude? (will this sell out before the West Coasters get out of bed?)
2012-01-27 07:36:54 Last night's wine club featured wines of the Loire valley and I brought an '05 de Ladoucette Pouilly-Fumé. For
dessert we celebrated the "Festival of Kings" Unfortunately I wasn't the lucky one chosen to be King for a day :(
http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event&event_id=65105
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2012-01-27 08:08:46 @AdamEmpire
labeling a wine: WS90 when it in fact received a range score of 87-90 is pretty bogus.
Something WTSO would do, surprised to see you do it.
2012-01-27 09:35:44 Kate, clearly if you were coherent enough to post you were doing too much spitting and not enough tasting!
Looking forward to hearing about what I missed.
2012-01-27 10:19:27 @JohnO'
I agree that would be unacceptable, and it is something that I do not do. The email says:
"Rated 90 points by the Wine Advocate's Neal Martin and 87-90 points by James Suckling at barrel sampling."
When you click on the item on the website -- although it does show the higher end of the range at first -- the
range is displayed with the tasting note. The higher end is not shown to be deceptive and I apologize if it seems
that way.
2012-01-27 10:28:08 @AdamEmpire
Fair enough. I was refrring to the way it showed on the summary sheet where it was labeled WA-90 and WS-90.
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2012-01-27 10:33:32 I managed to try 38 wines last night and many of my favourites were from the Vinmoet short-list. I'll write up the
notes when I'm not typing on a tiny keyboard, but if I were made of money and could put together a case of my
favourite reds of the ones I tried, it would be (in alphabetical order):
Branaire Ducru
Canon la Gaffeliere
Clerc Milon
Clinet
La Conseillante
Figeac
Lafon-Rochet
Lagrange
Pavie Macquin
Pichon-Longueville Baron
Smith Haut Lafitte
du Tertre
A few of those I can actually afford and might pick up! I'm sure there were others that will be amazing with some
age on them, but I am not experienced enough to predict those.
As for the Sauternes, Suduiraut was the last one of the night that I tried and I could not have asked for a more
perfect end to my evening. I also was charmed by the Rayne Vigneau, though part of that may have been the
winemaker.
23009 wine magnet
2012-01-27 11:23:30 @KI4K: I envy you for your trip to Chicago for the Bordeaux tasting. What vintages of your listed wines were
offered? I have some '06s of Smith Haut Lafitte and Clinet which I am curious about but have resisted opening.
Perhaps your reviews will push me closer to the edge...
@AdamEmp: Not having the "summary sheet" to which john o' referred, I can only attest to what I saw for the
2009 Chateau Haut Barrail on your site, which I thought was very straightforward (and not dissimilar from the
hype at WL). Together, those comments led me to order 24 from Empire. Perhaps they will drink nicely for my
son's wedding at the end of March. If not, I can fall back on some Leoville las Cases and Lascombes for the
rehearsal dinner and serve some CdPs/Rhones for the reception. Thanks for your continued efforts and
participation here!
Bring on some more.
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2012-01-27 11:31:45 @Wine Magnet - Thank you. I appreciate the business and support. I am working to get more 2009 values like
the Clement Saint Jean and the Haut Barrail. The Barrail is drinking very well now and really shows the vintage
character.
2012-01-27 11:46:55 WM: It was a tasting of '09 Bordeaux, principally for the retailers/restaurants but a slot that opened up for
customers of Binny's who paid a nominal fee.
Kate: What a luxury to taste so many Chateaux in one place. The industry people that you chatted with must
have been fun too. Now, our next step is to plan your Bordeaux trip so you can meet these folks in their natural
environment. Even with a weak dollar, we can do this cost effectively.
2012-01-27 12:18:51 Can't let this go unnoticed:
" part of that may have been the winemaker" ;) ;)
2012-01-27 12:35:36 I thought I was going to make it the entire month of January without placing a single wine order. I had told
myself that I was done placing orders just because something looked like a good deal. It wasn't a SIWBM per se,
but I was going to be much more picky about ordering. I had resisted several temptations already this month,
but today that came to an end. First, I love Barolo, so I could not resist the Rivetto on WTSO. Then Cindy offers
the C. Donatiello Pinot. I haven't tried it, but a 90 from Meadows is pretty impressive. The positive is my credit
card billing cycle ended on the 21st, so for all intents and purposes, I did not order any wine in January. My wife
will be so proud!
2012-01-27 12:38:47 BB did you print the WTSO Barolo? Just above my strike zone
WTF a Chicago wine tasting event I missed..
TonyO..save this date...2013 PHILLY OFFLINE...
Vinny..nice PN on CW, I grabbed 3....I really didn't mean the mean French comment
NYPete stop lurking my posts ;)
SCKen ... check is in the mail right
Adam/Eve Plumb....keep it fair....
I hope all is well...building the Wine Ark now...two of each bottles only...Magnums are welcomed
2012-01-27 13:28:14 Brooks - Nope, not yet. That check won't go out until early March. That's the beauty of it. Now I just have to be
good and try to resist placing any more orders until after Feb. 21st.
2012-01-27 21:38:38 @Brooks: I have it penciled, no make that SHARPIED IN !!!!
2012-01-27 21:43:59 Caved in on the CW pinot noir. Time for bed as tomorrow is crazy busy day for the boys. 2 competitions in one
day. That snow last Saturday made this weekend scary loaded for them. Me... I am just a driver, screamer,
feeder, and a part-time motivational speaker.
2012-01-27 23:35:02 No talk about Berserker Day offers? A LOT of Pinot for you pinot lovers!
@cbs - those sound like all the qualifications for the most important job you'll have... Father.
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2012-01-28 14:54:31 I posted my full tasting notes from the UGC 2009 Bordeaux tasting in Chicago over on the WLTV board if anyone
is curious:
http://forums.winelibrary.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=38947&p=759059#p759059
2012-01-28 18:57:26 Great stuff Kate. Thanks for the link. Now you'll have to taste these guys again in, say, 2025 and compare notes.
While, for a great vintage these wines are arguably more accessible early, it is still really hard for these young,
tannic wines to taste great in that environment. Yet, depending upon the moment, the future can peak out at
you through the wood. These get much more barrel time than the cheap stuff intended to drink young. Its a
vintage and a tasting to remember the rest of your life.
I hinted to a mucky muck about how I think of '09 of being a cross between '05 which is a tannic bomb and '03
which is a fruity early drinkin' bomb. He came back from the tasting re-quoting me to me. He wasn't going to
buy any 2009 because he won't wait and rather buy older vintages now but there he could taste the quality and
its potential and changed his tune. I think the vintage will age like '00/'05 but will still be more accessible,
earlier on, like '03. '09 will be drinking before '05 yet age as long. At least that's what I think now. Gotta be
ready to change with the wine as it evolves.
23033 BuffaloLou
Of course, I came back from France in November of '09 telling my buddies about the vintage. They didn't start
reading about it until a year later and then came back to tell me that I was right. So remember all of my babble
about '10 and '11. I'd hint that the prices for '09 are TOO EXPENSIVE but '10 is quality and small quantity. '11 is
spotty and "classic" (meaning stay away). Combine that with a shift to Asia as a much bigger and growing market
2012-01-28 19:31:50 Tonight: Prime rib, rare, with an AMAZING bottle of 1997 Joseph Phelps Vineyards Insignia. I didn't take formal
TNs on the Insignia, but suffice it to say that it was singing!
Warming up: '08 Angel Vine Zinfandel, Columbia Valley (I know, odd follow-up, but I've been dying to pop it as I
haven't tried a Zin from WA state. (With the exception of a terrific Primitivo, also from Angel Vine.))
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23036 luddite
2012-01-28 20:50:20 @Vinny: We need to start paying you for the knowledge that you share.
Thank you,
2012-01-28 21:09:27 Subscription to evinny.com! Count me in :D
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2012-01-28 22:21:38 OK, for those that know more about Vitis vinifera than I, help educate me. I always thought that zinfandel and
primitivo are the same grape. ZAP says they are genetically identical. But after reading Lou's post and
going to the Angel Vines website, looking at their 08 Primitivo Columbia Valley, it lists the varietal composition as
"Zinfandel (76%), Primitivo (18%), & Petite Sirah (6%)". According to Appellation America, primitivo is aka
Zingarello, and "DNA testing has confirmed that Primitivo is genetically related to California’s Zinfandel."
Is there actually a difference other than country of origin, if so what, and if not how could a wine from
Washington contain primitivo? It appears the TTB considers both synonymous so this label could just as easily
read 94% zinfandel 6% durif (as the TTB also considers petite syrah/durif synonymous). With that being the case,
why differentiate them on the label & keep this wine in the "other" and not "zinfandel" category on the
website? Simply something similar to a clonal difference in the vineyard? It's piqued my curiosity... I just spent
the better part of 1/2 hour reading up/trying to educate myself on this and am still lost.
23038 BuffaloLou
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2012-01-28 22:59:19 @David T - I understood it as Primitivo was the ancestral grape of Zin. Petite Sirah and Duriff is a different issue
as far as I am aware. Most Petite Sirah is Duriff, but not all is. There is, AFAIK, a lot of PS that is
old vines, esp in Cali, and much of it is, but not all is Duriff. It appears that there was some confusion eons ago.
It's just like the name "Petite Sirah". It was thought that it was related to Syrah, but with DNA it was, in modern
times, found not to be related.
2012-01-28 23:09:27 Gee, the 'edit' function is gone again! Here is an update:
Wiki (FWIW) states "It is the main grape known in the U.S. and Israel as Petite Sirah, with over 90% of the
California plantings labeled "Petite Sirah" being Durif grapes". Also, "DNA fingerprinting has shown that the
majority of Petite Sirah plantings in California are actually Durif". OK, so what are the other 10%????
On a side note, I found a nice Australian PS at Premier (in Buffalo) that's quite nice for about $23. (I'm always
looking for different examples of PS!) I have not found, locally, an example from Israel, which seems to have a
good amount of PS planted as well.
And on yet another different note, the Angel Vine Zin is unlike any Cali Zin I've had, and I've had A LOT of Cali Zin!
Very nice with more red fruit expression than black fruit. Also, note (nice tie in to the discussion at hand... ) the
Angel Vine Zin is nothing like the Angel Vine Primitivo. Sadly, very sadly, Angel Vine is no longer producing the
Primitivo. IIRC, Ed (Fus) said (last year when I spoke with him) that he could no longer source the grapes. Real
bummer because the Primitivo was the best domestic example of the verital I've tried.
23040 BuffaloLou
2012-01-28 23:11:36 OK, the edit function is back. Hmmm... (Damn digital gnomes!)
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2012-01-28 23:18:48 Actually American zin came from Croatia where it is known as Crljenak Kastelanski via Austria. I'll have to look for
some from Washington as I've not had one.
See http://www.zinfandel.org/uploads/STMD%20Divide-HistoryZin_06-C.pdf
and
http://www.allbusiness.com/science-technology/biochemistry-genetic-biochemistry-dna/13947355-1.html
That second link is an especially fascinating article. I could probably just email Carole and ask her thoughts. I'm
really looking forward to trying the Lagier Meredith syrah I bought on BerserkerDay after reading it!
23042 BuffaloLou
2012-01-28 23:27:54 "DNA fingerprinting confirms that the ancient Croatian variety has the same DNA structure as California
Zinfandel". Hmmm... "structure". Does that mean identical or similar? I'm not a DNA expert nor a scientist, so
I'm not sure.
23043 Waiting in Manassas 2012-01-29 01:15:02 OK you guys have gone too far into wine DNA for me. I just got back from a lovely evening wine tasting at
Chateau WineKnurd. I'm sure Phredd will eventually post notes on WLTV. A great time was had by all, and we
had more successful wines than last month!
23047 John O'
2012-01-29 15:27:02 @AdamEmpire
With all apologies to Columbo for coming back to the same thing over and over again.
You said in part:
"When you click on the item on the website — although it does show the higher end of the range at first..."
How is that not deceptive?
It was never scored 90 by WS. Yes, you can drill down and find out that it was range scored 87-90. So what?
That's like saying the lie in the headline was mitigated by the fine print.
It may be 90 if and when they come back to it. It also could be 99 or 81.
I like your offerrings and your participation here. I'm not trying to be inhospitable. I am calling out BS, though,
when I see it.
23049 BrunelloBob
2012-01-29 21:55:55 Downton Abbey: friggin' show just about makes me cry.
(and my Irish half doesn't approve of that ;) )
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2012-01-30 12:08:02 Kate: Am anticipating doing the WI shuffle during our ski weekend at Devils Head on President's Day weekend. I
checked out the "fancy" restaurant menu there and they updated it...to make it more fancy:
http://www.devilsheadresort.com/dhr/SiteAssets/files/main_content_area/CORN%20__LANDSEA.pdf
http://www.devilsheadresort.com/dhr/SiteAssets/files/main_content_area/CORN%20__RAW%20BAR.pdf
Prices are MUCH higher and I am pretty confident that the quality won't be. People who are going skiing in
Wisconsin may or may not know what fois gras is but the point is that those who do aren't going to order it at
that restaurant. Its just not going to be good. Very frustrating.
OK, do a hunter's menu and a fisherman's menu and take advantage of the local foods...I'm not going to
Wisconsin to eat east cost/gulf coast seafood or french food. There is one walleye dish on the menu and that's
it. Add some more of those marvelous WI cold freshwater fish, WI beef, WI fowl & some WI cheese
oriented fare. If you want to get a little fancy, do it by remembering your roots, add venison and elk but keep it
simple, fresh and local. And keep the prices consistent with Madison, not Chicago.
In ski season, how hard is it to do a raclette or a fondue? Cheese, bread, potatoes. There are a number of simple
dishes that could tie local food to cost effective eating for skiers.
They don't post a wine list so I don't know exactly what is on it, but I guaranty there is going to be more than one
Cali/Aussie label with a former athlete's name on it to match that fancy new menu. Arrrrgggg!!!
23056 jpakma
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2012-01-30 12:57:53 Greetings all, just thought I might join in some of the discussion here.
2012-01-30 16:39:09 great article in the SF Chronicle over the weekend on the interesting or even 'bizarro' 2010 vintage in Germany.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/01/27/FDOD1MU0T5.DTL&type=wine
Looks like you need to really know who to buy and who to avoid in this vintage. Its either outstanding or
disappointing and little in between.
@ SCKen... you crack me up. I too fell prey to the Rivetto deal on TSO.
23058 BuffaloLou
2012-01-30 16:55:51 @jpakma - Welcome to the Hills, Joe! Nice to have you here!
@BDude - As I've been trying to expand my cellar into German Rieslings, TY for posting the link to the 2010
German vintage! Looks like I'll have to try to remember to stay clear of it. ("Remember" being the key word... )
:)
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2012-01-30 17:09:43 jpakma, welcome to the Hills. Great to have you here. Let me know if you want a tour of the facilities...
23060 K is for Kate
2012-01-30 18:22:22 Vinmoet- I can't say I understand their menu choices either. I agree that fresh and local would be a far better call
than we-flew-in-a-bunch-of-standard-things-that-are-considered-fancy-so-we-can-charge-high-prices. There are
definitely some Madison restaurants at that price point, but almost all of them are far more inventive and
committed to using local products.
23064 louas
I hope there's plenty of snow for you- today felt like Spring was starting to think about coming already, but I'm
sure it will change its mind at any moment.
2012-01-30 19:52:30 @jpakma: Welcome to the Hills I see that many here already know you. Also I don't mean to pry, but are you by
any chance a Hoosiers fan?
2012-01-30 21:17:58 @VinMoet: In another lifetime I learned to ski at Devil's Head. At night. Nothing like the thrill of skiing down an
icy slope full of anti freeze. I believe it is one of the few ski areas to feature a cornfield at the top of the hill!
Next place I skied was Taos. Quite an upgrade! Since you are advocating dining on local cuisine, may I say that u
r in Wisconsin, and the locals would suggest da BEERS! Not da Wines! That being said, I would suggest loading
up the wine skins with a September Mateus and have some fun!
23065 David T
2012-01-30 21:25:12 FWIW every 2010 German riesling I've had thus far has been very good to wow.
23066 BuffaloLou
@jpakma welcome!
2012-01-30 22:21:56 @David T (or anyone else looking to build a cellar) - I just saw this on Wine Berserkers. You may want to check it
out; it will design your cellar for you (using their racking, but they look to be somewhat standard).
23061 luddite
http://www.designacellar.com/
23067 jpakma
2012-01-30 22:26:25 Thanks for the welcome everyone. I know a few on here from the WLTV forums which I joined last January and
recognize a few names from the DG debacle.
@luddite I'm an absolute Hoosier nut (at least hoops). I've been to two of their Final Four appearances (1981 and
2002). The last nine years has been dreadful though. I assume your an OSU fan?
@David T and @BuffaloLou thanks! @mr21cbs I might take you up on it, I tried to read as much as possible
before asking a lot of questions.
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2012-01-30 23:04:50 @BLou Thanks for the link, that was fun to play around with! I've got a roughly 11' wide, 10.5' deep space in the
basement, so I figure three walls of shelving. One preliminary design I did guesstimates ~1500 bottles, which
would probably be a pretty appropriate size. Of course I plan to consult Joe for design advice as well.
23071 NaH
2012-01-31 04:27:25 @DavidT
German Rieslings have been good to WOW since the 2001 vintage. I don't they've had a bad vintage (Mosel)
since 2000 and the 2010 vintage was rated under 90.
23072 BrunelloBob
23073 luddite
Buy em up, save em or drink em...either way you won't loose.
2012-01-31 06:18:51 NaH: Agreed re: German rieslings. The most consistent run of vintages I've ever experienced.
That said...I've been drinking Dr. Loosen's entry level offering for 6-7 years now. One of the world's great QPR's
IMHO. The 2010, however, seems a bit lacking. Still good, and worth the $9-$10, but not as good as prior
vintages.
I bring up the Loosen because (cheapskate that I am) that's the only riesling that I've got experience with over
such a long time.
2012-01-31 07:00:39 @jpakma: Given away by my avatar again :D You will find that the Big 10 is well represented here with Badgers,
Illini, and Buckeyes in addition to your Hoosiers!
Most people have the will to win, few have the will to prepare to win.
-- Bobby Knight
Trivia: I was a (much too short and clumsy) Freshman at the high school where Bobby Knight's coaching career
started...
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2012-01-31 10:01:35 louas: I've been skiing there since a little kid. When the snow is good, its a great cost effective place to ski. Plus,
with its proximity to Madison, there are plenty of college students there who serve as instructors for my kids.
Taos is the only "real" place I've been to in the U.S. Otherwise, I've principally been in the French Swiss portion
of the Alps. Though not rock star skiing, still love it in Wisconsin. Don't worry, we slug back plenty o' suds after a
day of skiing. But, I still like my Bordeaux with dinner yet suggest that rieslings go with many a traditional Badger
fare.
jpakma: welcome. Your point guard is from my neck of the woods: http://iuhoosiers.cstv.com/sports/mbaskbl/mtt/jonesiii_verdell00.html
I think the Hoosiers and the Illini are both suffering from "can't win on the roaditis." Your old football coach
(from the golden years of IU football) Bill Mallory is a family friend and one of his sons is a buddy of mine...it all
practically makes us brothers! We maintain a friendly rivalry and support system amongst the Big 10 inmates
here. Feel free to stir up friendly trouble wine-wise or any other wise for that matter.
23075 McMalbec
23076 mr21cbs
Kate: I am going to make do. I know I have good food options if I drive, but my goal is to not have to drive and
2012-01-31 12:47:07 @ Vin: while I am three hours southwest of Madison, if the weather continues as it is predicted, the snow will be
gone by Friday. There is a chance of showers/snow on Saturday the temperatures predicted would not be
conducive to skiing. Obviously, Kate is closer but just my best guess based on what is happening here. Our snow
cover will be gone sometime tomorrow.
Go Badgers!
2012-01-31 12:48:25 vinmoet, luddite, jpakma and other sport historians and fanatics here... I need help finding a few sport
motivational books, movies for my kids. Preferably from individual sport's perspective (swimming preferred;
alternatively cycling, tennis, golf?) or a team sport college or pro. The boys are 11. Thanks!
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2012-01-31 13:12:08 So much for my 2012 SIWBM. Went Berserk on Fri! Great opportunity to try some new producers!
Jean Edwards 1x each
06 Napa CS
06 CS Stagecoach Vineyard
Sandler: 2x ea
10 PN Keefer Ranch
10 PN Bien Nacido
10 PN Clos Pepe
Vincent: 1 x ea
10 Armstrong Vineyard PN
10 Zenith PN
10 Ribbon Ridge PN
Helio Terra 3 x ea
10 Willamette Valley PN
10 Vintners Select PN
Kendric
6 x 08 Marin County PN
Siduri 1 x ea
09 Cargassachi PN
09 Clos Pepe PN
09 Sta Rita Hills PN
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2012-01-31 13:19:41 @vinmoet VJ III has been a great example of a collegiate athlete at Indiana. That kid has put up with more crap
than most while at Indiana (kind of a love/hate relationship by the fans). He went through a lot leading this team
to where it is this year and I think he's a great example of what hard work and dedication can do. Bill
Mallory...ah, the days when IU could actually play football. That was a travesty when he was let go by the
university. Not sure how successful your ski-trip will be, it's a balmy 61 here in Indianapolis today. Maybe you
should bring the family down to Super Bowl Village instead :)
@mr21cbs some of the great sports movies for individual sports: Cycling - Breaking Away and American Flyers;
Wrestling - Vision Quest; Running - Chariots of Fire; Golf - The Greatest Game Ever Played. There are lots of
others out there, but these are some of my favorite.
23079 BrunelloBob
2012-01-31 13:22:23 @cbs: How about a running book? John Parker's "Once a Runner" comes to mind.
Quick read, and I don't think there's anything inappropriate for an 11 year old in it (but you might want to give it
a run through)
http://www.amazon.com/Once-Runner-John-L-Parker/dp/0915297019
You've probably already thought about "Breaking Away" (the movie)
23080 BuffaloLou
23081 vinmoet
@WIM (aka PTHC): Stocking up on a bit of Pinot Noir are we? ;)
2012-01-31 13:24:45 2008 Chateau St. Jean Cabernet Sauvignon Cinq Cépages on TSO. $40; FS/2. Oh so tempting!
2012-01-31 13:40:47 jpakam: Am afraid that I must correct you. There is only ONE golf movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg8lSyGavc4
The distant runner up which must be mentioned:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJQ9U9pW9Q
23082 jpakma
23083 BrunelloBob
23084 vinmoet
Solid, inspirational films providing outstanding role models for young athletes.
2012-01-31 13:47:16 No doubt that Caddyshack is #1 and Happy Gilmore #2. I duly stand corrected in my golf picks, but was trying to
respect the 11yo age.
2012-01-31 13:48:52 Dudes: The blonde Chick in "Happy Gilmore"!! :) :) :) :)
2012-01-31 13:50:26 Bbob: Point noted. You are correct.
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2012-01-31 13:55:19 @Jpakma aka Joe- Welcome to the insanity!
@BBob Yes, I'm a sucker for small production PN producers that come highly recommended. I'm setting up a
savings account in order to be ready for next year's BDIV!
2012-01-31 13:56:55 jpakma, dully noted. They are boys, after all, and the skimpy uniform is part of the business. I was told that they
prefer brunettes, but blondes get their attention as well. They are 11 going on 16. :)
2012-01-31 14:02:14 Has anyone heard of a winecruzer?
http://winecruzer.com/12pack-winecarrierwheel.html
When we come back from overseas I have had pretty good luck bringing back numerous bottles stashed in our
luggage. This last trip was my first and only fatality (1 broken out of 24, out of more than 200 if you averaged it
over my trips). Would consider a dedicated case like this, but am afraid of the weight.
23088 BuffaloLou
2012-01-31 14:45:42 @vinny - If you want to save yourself $150, that case is just a SKB carrying case. It's sold through many outlets,
but one of the best prices around is at B&H Photo & Video in NYC. They sell it for $230 with cube foam
(pluck). Yeah, you'll have to pluck out the foam in the shape of the bottle(s) yourself, but I like having the extra
$150 to spend on wine! Here is the link:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/766808REG/SKB_3I_2317_14BC_Military_Standard_Waterproof_Case_14_.html
Another viable option is the Pelican 1630. It, too, comes with Pick 'n Pluck foam. It's slightly larger ID and OD.
It's $280. Here is a link to it:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?is=REG&sku=475027&Q=&O=&A=det
ails
The reason I gave you the slightly higher priced Pelican in addition to the SKB is because I'm very familiar with
Pelican products. I use it for my camera and telescope equipment. Very good products. Not that SKB isn't, just I
haven't used them.
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2012-01-31 14:52:52 Vinmoet, interesting case.
An empty 750ml bottle of wine weighs around 545 grams or 1.2 pounds.
(http://www.ginopinto.com/Bottle%20Dimensions/Bottle%20Dimensions%202009.pdf). Adding the weight of
wine:
750ml of water weighs 750 grams = 26.5oz. (1 lb. 10.5oz) or 1.65 pounds, with some additional sugar, sediment,
etc. 1.8 pounds? So an average weight of a wine bottle is 3lbs. I saw some sites listing as a 3.33lbs per bottle.
The 12 bottle winecruzer is 20.7lbs, plus 12x3.33=39.66lbs, for the total of 60.66lbs. So now you can check with
the airlines' weight limits to see if there is an extra charge for a case like that or not.
23090 wine magnet
23091 BuffaloLou
23092 vinmoet
2012-01-31 15:23:25 The LastBottle offering on Sancerre and Rose' this afternoon was just too much to resist. 6 of each for $60/w/FS
for 2 CT 90pt wines is the best buy I've seen for awhile. Where can you beat $5/btl delivered! Way to go, Cory!
Hopefully all six cases will make it to me.
2012-01-31 15:51:01 @WM - don't you think they're getting a little long in the tooth? I dunno the aging ability of these wines.
Thoughts?
2012-01-31 16:03:09 Thanks BLou. It looked kind of generic so I am not surprised by your find.
CBS: You've made the most important observation and calculation. I do use about 37 pounds as my guess for a
case of wine. It can vary by the thickness of the bottle although in Bordeaux they are very consistent. The
problem is a 50lb limit on baggage. http://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInformation/baggage/baggageAllowance.jsp
We use 21" carryons which we check in. Downside is that they are soft, the upside is that they are super light.
We take one per person plus an extra one or two or else buy a cheapie one there. We then disperse clothes and
bottles throughout the various carryons averaging 4 to 8 bottles per luggage.The most expensive bottles I bring
back are less than, say 100 Euros. Most bottles are under 30 Euros. So money wise, I am OK with the risk. I
don't care if my clothes get trashed if a bottle breaks, but I do hate the irritation and the loss of the vino.
I love the idea of a hard case dedicated to wine, but I really want a 12 bottle size and its not worth going smaller.
Weight wise, the winecruzer is not going to be a solution.
23094 BrunelloBob
23095 vinmoet
2012-01-31 16:27:21 Why not just use one of those 12 botttle styrofoam boxes The Demigod keeps sending me?
2012-01-31 16:31:20 BB they don't fit inside of a standard suitcase or carryon. Some of them are set up so that there are two sixers in
a case, and those I think would be small enough.
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2012-01-31 16:35:50 BLou: The Rose' might be pushing it agewise, but I have had Sancerres which I have enjoyed at 6 years of age. Of
course provenance/conditions for the last 4 years are important to consider, but my experience with Last Bottle
so far has been excellent so I cannot imagine that Cory and his associates would be pushing something that was
really over-the-hill, just to make a few bucks. If the Sancerre turns out well and the Rose' does not, I will have
paid $10/btl for something that is $19-$20/btl elsewhere in the US, except for winedeals.com, which is located in
Buffalo. They have it for $17 by mail. Perhaps you can run out and buy one to see if you like it, assuming you like
crisp whites. Oops, it is sold out! I will post notes here and CT after I try some.
23097 jpakma
2012-01-31 16:39:21 Anyone have experience with Arnot-Roberts? I just had their pre-mailer to the Spring 2012 (March 6) release
and they are offering their 2011 Rose' with free ground shipping on 6 or + bottles.
2012-01-31 17:31:16 @WM - Cool! Sounds like you may have a killer QPR!
23098 BuffaloLou
23101 BaroloDude
@jpakma - as my son says: "Anyone? Anyone?" :)
2012-01-31 18:42:47 @ BLOU.... the article praises many 2010 Rieslings, just inconsistent from producer to producer, so buy wisely but
don't stop buying!
@ jpakma... there is still time to escape the asylum before Nurse Ratchett arrives with your meds.
@ WiM... you will be thrilled by the 09 Siduri you bought. Great bottlings you chose.
23102 TonyO
23103 David T
23104 louas
23106 BrunelloBob
23107 BuffaloLou
Big Ten...Big 12... YAWWWWWWWWN. Go Bears! Beat Stanfurd.
2012-01-31 19:41:20 "The Greatest Game Ever Played" is a must see for any golf fans.....true story of The 1913 US Open
2012-01-31 19:49:28 @vinmoet Here's a possible alternative to the WineCruzer that was offered as a special for BerserkerDay. It looks
to be soft-shelled but lightweight/easy to hold a standard 12-bottle shipping pack
http://shop.thewinecheck.com/
2012-01-31 20:53:51 1. Caddyshack w/o Doubt. I have played golf all over the place and anytime a Caddyshack line is used everybody
else in the foursome "gets it".
2. Any thoughts, inmates, on CH foray into French wines?? http://store.chwine.com/french-wines-c105.aspx
2012-01-31 21:06:50 DUDES: The blonde Chick in “Happy Gilmore”!!!!
2012-01-31 21:27:18 Anyone have any input on the super Tuscan on TSO?
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2012-02-01 00:24:57 @Vinny - If you don't have an issue placing your wine into your luggage, I'd go with something like the "Wine
Skins":
http://www.jaunted.com/story/2009/4/28/7930/66615/travel/Would+You+Like+Some+Cheese+To+Go+With+Yo
ur+WineSkin%3F
23113 vinmoet
I've seen another product very similar to it, but they work pretty much the same.
2012-02-01 09:24:29 Louas: I've never had a CH wine. Understand the concept but as I peruse the French ones, they are at a price
point where I can probably find something that I know will be OK. Of the ones there, the '09 Burgundy would be
one that I would like to try. If these guys are as good as their website indicates and if you've liked them in the
past, then the prices are fair.
DavidT: That is a legitimate alternative. Interesting. A bit bulky but should work perfectly. Thanks.
BLou: I have friends who use those and in fact used them on the last trip back from France. They really work.
They do tend to displace some extra room which adds up with multiple bottles. But I could see loading a carryon with bottles in their Wine Skins and weight wise it should work fine. That's probably the best scenario yet.
B10 Fans: Attended the Illinois/MI St. game last night. 42 to 41. A defensive battle. I suspect very frustrating to
watch on TV. There, it was frustrating live too but in a loud and great environment so it was fun. Refs made
what appeared to be 3 bad calls in a row against Illinois and the crowd really let them have it. Great win for Illini.
Bad offensive production was attributed to great defense on both sides. Can't forgive the Illini for pathetic free
throw percentages, and at home no less. Its a high ABV season.
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Oh, and BBob, again, with reference to the blond young lady, you are correct sir.
2012-02-01 15:29:40 Speaking of beer, I found a pretty good beer blog.
http://craftbeertemple.com/videoblog/
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2012-02-01 17:19:54 @Castello - Bell's and Founders are two great craft breweries. I know @David T might agree with me, but you
have to add Three Floyds (Munster, IN) - love their beers too! If you are into hops, then go for a Bell's Hopslam
and for summertime Oberon may be one of my all time faves. I'd be interested in hearing others favorite
breweries - other omissions (Dogfish, Russian River Brewing, and Stone).
@Vinmoet the B1G is crazy this year. I was pulling for the Illini last night and that game was brutal to watch. I
figured the game was pretty much sealed up when Draymond Green went down for MSU (hope he is ok). Big
game tonight between IU and UM. OSU seems like they are in position to pull away with the conference, but
things could still get interesting.
I went ahead and split a 6-pack of the Arnot-Roberts Rose' I posted yesterday. I don't know why I am buying so
much, I need to start drinking. However, I am trying to lose weight and get back into shape. Kind of a Catch-22.
I'm ready for Nurse Ratched and my pills!!
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2012-02-01 20:58:00 @jpakma: Struggling with the same issues (get in shape, lose weight, and drink wine). The "good" news is that
drinking wine forces you to get into shape if you don't want to gain weight. I drink about 2 glasses of wine daily.
To break even calorie wise that means walking about 2 (more) miles a day. If you want to lose weight vs. just
maintain weight you need to burn 3,500 more calories than you take in to lose a pound. I figure a calorie deficit
of 350 every day gets you a pound every 10 days this means walking 3.5 (more) miles a day. So there you have it
walk 5.5 (more) miles a day than you are doing now, drink 2 glasses of wine, and oh by the way don't eat any
more than you were eating before you added the exercise :)
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23121 BuffaloLou
2012-02-01 21:00:33 I'm too fat and drunk to follow that mathematical logic...
2012-02-01 21:59:21 Speaking of beer, our pal Rick is working me through to my "BS" in beer studies. I'm studying hard! In that light...
Stopped by the LBS today. Had my Growler filled with: Great Divide Belgian Style Yeti Imperial. Wow! This is a
delicious IS! Briefly:
N: malty, chocolate, hint of coffee
P: More of the same, roasty malt, chocolate, coffee on the finish
F: Hops come out, but they're not bitter, rather long and smooth
Absolutely fantastic!
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2012-02-01 23:14:50 Looking forward to a fun weekend: dinner with Mrs. TonyO on Friday, dinner and Father/Daughter dance with
my lovely 7 year old Olivia on Saturday, birthday and Super Bowl on Sunday (no Vikings but that will make it less
stressful and won't end with my crying/vomitting/etc.., and Mrs. TonyO starts her new job on Monday !! THAT is
a great weekend that will be sure to include a few glasses/bottles of juice ! Hope you all enjoy your weekend,
wherever and whatever you do !!
2012-02-01 23:31:05 may this be the theme for your weekend and beyond.............not a better song ever written
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXbsq3C4LZM
2012-02-02 00:00:40 @jpakma I need to plan an Indy trip sometime later this year to visit some high school friends... it sounds like we
may need to have a beer offline rather than wine! 3 Floyds/Bells/Stone are all in my top five breweries, along
with Great Lakes & probably Unibroue. Dogfish is definitely within the top ten.
23127 mr21cbs
2012-02-02 08:42:33 Gents, this beer conversation fascinates me quite a lot. I would like to have something more permanent where
inmates post their recommendations for beers as I would love to explore some of these myself. If you don't
mind, I will create a beer page and if you indulge us with your time to dump some of your knowledge and tasting
notes there, that would be great. Also, the beer blogs are very cool, not that we need to divert our attention
from wine, but I do enjoy a beer or spirit on occasion. Cheers!
23129 mr21cbs
2012-02-02 08:54:35 On the subject of loosing weight and getting in shape, walking is fine, but I prefer biking and swimming. Not only
both of these activities make you burn calories faster, they are easier to accomplish in bad weather (swimming)
or good weather (biking).
Yesterday we had a crazy weather for February (sunny and 60F) so I took advantage of working from home and
went for a short bike ride. I have not ridden outside since my broken hand surgery and wanted to see how I felt.
It was very windy, and riding against the wind was hard, so I only managed 15 miles in the hour that I had. With a
quick 5 min stop to eat a granola bar. I didn't burn much yesterday, but I felt great, and no guilt during dinner and
those couple of slices of cheese and wine.
Here is an interesting site with tables for those who can still concentrate on numbers and not too drunk:
http://www.nutristrategy.com/caloriesburnedcycling.htm
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2012-02-02 09:09:57 CBS: is there a pilates style biking where you pay someone to move your legs up and down on the pedals?
23132 mr21cbs
2012-02-02 10:21:52 Vinmoet, I will gladly take your money, but can't promise that you will lose weight, get in shape, or complete a
stage of Tour de France. You will, however, earn bragging rights among your fellow wine drinkers that you were
cycling! That should be worth something. Right?
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2012-02-02 10:59:24 @mr21cbs: Thanks for posting the link to that chart. I walk between 4-4.5 MPH and have always figured about
100 calories per mile. This matches up pretty well. Although I prefer being outside (especially here at the
beach), I also use a treadmill since you can walk/jog up a constant incline burning more calories...
23134 wine magnet
2012-02-02 11:01:23 TonyO: Sounds like a GREAT weekend. If you were closer than VT, I would contribute to the toasting for the
future for all of you. Should you like to give me your contact info/location, I have a friend/business associate
from Burlington visiting here next Thurs/Fri, and if he is checking luggage, perhaps I can get him to lug something
back with him.
23135 wine magnet
Michael: I remember something like your "calories consumed biking" chart from my triathlon days, but somehow
I couldn't lose weight by biking >20 miles/day (usually at >22mph), swimming at least 4000 yards
(intervals/sprints after a 500yd warmup) a minimum of 5 days/wk, and lifting weights/running 2 days/week. The
only way I could lose weight was to combine the above with significant boring dieting. Since those long gone
days, I have become sedentary, drink lots of wine, eat lots of good cheese (there is no place in life for crap
cheese). I was considering weight loss surgery, but our "exit strategy" from our business, a General Manager we
hired 7 years ago with the plan to sell him our business, is now leaving for a different opportunity. I am now
drinking more wine but not in a celebratory fashion!
2012-02-02 11:52:00 TonyO: It would have helped for me to provide my email should you be so inclined: spcentsp at knology dot net
23136 Brunellobob
2012-02-02 12:34:16 Is it my imagination, or is there a Lot of 92-point, sub-$30 barolo kicking around?
23137 mr21cbs
How low can prices go on Good Italian wine? I'm running out of room...
2012-02-02 12:34:22 wine magnet, that is some serious workout. I tend to go for longer bike rides to take advantage of getting out
and onto the open road (with the kids' activities and work) but our area is pretty hilly, so 22mph average is a very
difficult number to get. Mine is usually in the 17-18mph average, and I am a pretty good climber. Swimming is a
problem as I am not built like a swimmer, but am trying to swim more since my boys like to compete in triathlon,
and challenging me to do the same. Did you say 500+4000yd, 5 times a week? You can anything and as much as
you would like with a regiment like that. Running was my specialty in my school/college days (1500, 3000,
5000m), and I can and like to run, but these days prefer cycling.
I do like cheese, and please share what you call "good cheese", dieting is something I don't do at all, but we do
eat pretty balanced and healthy.
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2012-02-02 13:44:27 @ BBob... its not your imagination, its pretty strange innit? i think its a combo of the economy (esp in europe,
so ship more to the US!), a few good (and not low yield) vintages in a row... just my guess. Not complaining.
BUt also not buying many of these. WIth Barolo, i tend to really only want to buy producers i like or something i
have already tasted. Styles can vary so much...
HERE IS SOME LUDDITE MATH FOR ALL A YALL>...
So ludds says you need to walk 3.5 miles more a day to work off those two glasses of wine. Ludds also says he
only drinks two glasses of wine a day. BUT THE SIZE OF THAT GLASS IN ENORMOUS! Also compounding things,
is that Luddite BUYS at the approximate rate of 5-10 glasses of wine a day (1-2 bottles). So in order for Luddite
to actually work down his inventory, he needs to walk a marathon every day. No wonder you are so slim Ludds!
2012-02-02 13:47:13 Is anyone tempted by the Last Bottle juice box offer currently up? I would like to try, but only want a few if
anyone else goes in and wants me to take some off their hands... not that I need any more wine for sure!
23142 luddite
2012-02-02 14:06:06 @BD: All true (except the glass size) and I have registered for the "MB marathon." Well sort of - it's one of the
preliminary events a 5K :D
2012-02-02 14:59:45 Michael: Yes, when I was between 31-50 I was into Masters Swimming and started doing triathlons in '83, when
my training regimen added biking/running. We have pretty flat land on the West coast of FL, so my hill climbing
was mostly whenever I would climb a bridge onto and off of an island County Park (Ft. DeSoto Park, SW of St.
Petersburg), but there is a good deal of wind there much of the time, and very little to shelter a biker from winds.
I would always try to reach my peak speed of the day at the top of the bridge on the way back from a 20
mile(weekdays) ride on the island, knowing that I only had a mile to go and then a mile warm down. Even at 51, I
don't think I lost that sprint to anyone over several years of riding there. As to my swimming workouts, I started
with distance freestyle (500 & 1650yd/1500M), but became reasonably competitive at breaststroke, but
most of my conditioning workouts were freestyle because I couldn't do intervals with other workout friends at
the same pace. We usually would do a 500 warmup, and mix up the order/length of intervals, sprints, &
pulls and/or kicks. to total 4000 yds. When I was really into training, 2 days/week I would swim early (5 AM), and
sometimes after 9PM in addition to my every workday at Noon. Those days would total 7-9000 yds. I learned
after a few weeks that my body just couldn't recover enough with those workouts, so I went back to mostly
Noon only training with "cameo" appearances at the other workouts.
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2012-02-02 15:36:25 wine magnet - very impressive! Swimming that much takes gradual build up, I just don't have the time. My kids
now swim between 4-6K per day. Less but with many more sprints before competitions, and longer for the
longer distance meets (400IM, 500, 1000 and 1650Free). Me - not so much.
I live in Pennsylvania, suburbs of Philly, so there is nothing flat here. It is not Colorado or Vermont, but some hills
are killers that rise for miles. What goes up must come down, but you rarely pickup the average speed on the
way down due to turns. I rode a few charity rides along the NJ shore, with one leg being 85 miles mostly with
head wind and overpass bridges over canals. The longest and toughest 7 hours on the bike I have every
experienced. Tests your mental toughness much more then physical. At 41 I will not challenge you on a short
distance of 20 miles, anything longer, I will hold my own. I am still dreaming of riding one of the mountain stages
of the Tour. Perhaps when my youngster is a bit older and my older sons keep me company.
~
Cheeses. We do have Costco so I should take a look at what they have. Most of my friends shop at Wegmans, or
Italian market downtown, but it is a hike for me, so Internet is my friend. I do love Valdeon and have a wedge in
the fridge right now. I buy it from GourmetLibrary, the site is down, but my old receipts work well when I call
them to reorder. Delice is great, tried it at NaH Pig Roast party and have been buying ever since. My current
stash includes (from GourmetLibrary):
Zamorano Raw Milk
$13.99/lb (very good)
Piave Vecchio 1 Year
$12.99/lb (love this one)
Mahon 4 Month
$11.99/lb (one of my favorite)
Tuxford and Tebbutt Stilton
$13.99/lb
Beemster Classic Gouda
$12.99/lb (outstanding)
Beemster Vlaskaas Gouda
$11.99/lb
Xavier David Comte
$24.99/lb
Morbier Raw Milk $12.99/lb (interesting but I probably won't reorder)
2012-02-02 15:42:26 @mr21cbs.
how do you store the cheese and how long does it last?
thx
2012-02-02 15:54:11 John O', I store it in the cheese paper that GourmetLibrary ships it in a regular refrigerator. Usually 1-2 months
for hard cheeses and up to a month for the softer ones. But we go through it faster. GourmetLibrary has a $100
purchase for free shipping, which frequently lasts us a couple of months.
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2012-02-02 16:11:42 MR21cbs: The Delice De Bourgogne is $9.99/lb at Costco, and very difficult for me to walk by without buying. It is
good mixed into scrambled eggs, mac & cheese, you name it! I eat the rind and all, but usually just serve
the creamy part to guests.
TonyO: I learned a trick from Alton Brown on Food Network about storing cheese, which has served me well for a
couple of years. First (my suggestion, not AB's), I wash w/dish detergent and water the outside of sealed cheese
wrappers from stores where it is not being cut/wrapped just for me, just because I don't know how many hands
have handled the package in the case at Costco or wherever. Then, after cutting some cheese, I wrap the
exposed portion with WAX paper, usually a double thickness and secure it with a rubber band and keep it in the
refrigerator. Depending upon the cheese, the paper may begin to get damp after a few/several days, so the
paper is replaced. Cheese keeps much longer when it is allowed to "breathe" through a permeable covering as
opposed to when it is wrapped with plastic wrap/aluminum foil. It smells better/fresher and does not form mold
as easily. The Delice above really needs to be tightly wrapped w/wax paper and consumed within a week or so
after opening as it does start to lose its' bright off white color.
2012-02-02 18:15:23 @John O’ & cbs - re: cheese storage - remember that vacuum sealer discussion? Your cheese will last much
longer if you store in vacuum sealed bag. I usually cut a chunk (that will last about a month's consumption) off
my purchase and vacuum seal the rest. To refresh your memory, the ricotta salata I purchased and vacuum
sealed lasted a year and was perfect when opened!
2012-02-02 20:20:37 vinnymoet... your thoughts on the LBW Lafite table wine juice box offer? still up and available...
is this all green peppers and dirt, or could it be something nicer... ;-)
2012-02-02 21:51:42 Bdude: I did think about it for myself but decided to pass. My best guess is that most people would not be that
excited by the taste profile. I get that this works out to be $18 a bottle, delivered, for a ready to drink decade old
Bordeaux. It is tempting.
The wine essentially the "third wine" being a blend from various vineyards/Chateaux. That generally means
younger vines and/or fruit that didn't make it to the big boys or even the kids of the big boys. Its from 2001
which is an OK year but not one with tons of fruit. Plus, 1/2 bottles don't age nearly as well.
If you really trust these guys when they said that they tasted it and liked it, then its a deal. I'd drink it within the
next couple of years. I remember having tasted this label somewhere...I'm remembering their 2000. It was
decent, inexpensive wine. I would not let the name on the label mislead you into thinking that the wine is even a
pale shadow of its grand daddy.
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2012-02-03 01:44:03 vinnymoet.... danke. Murky buckets. many garcias.
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2012-02-03 05:17:03 @WineMagnet and MR21CBS
You're killing me with this cheese conversation! YES, the Delice is (was) my favorite as well as various other
cheeses. BUT...
since my cholesterol last month was OVER 200 and the old waistline is expanding, I've cut down on the cheeses
and am watching my diet while exercising.
23160 luddite
but I do miss my cheeses....
2012-02-03 07:17:42 @Ki4K: Hope your birthday (yesterday) was great! What bottle of '76 wine did you drink to celebrate this time :D
@NaH: My cholesterol was 199 (just made it!) but my good HDL was 86 thanks to all the red wine and exercise
while my bad LDL was 80 so it's not always your total but rather the ratio of good to bad (yes I know you already
knew this)...
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2012-02-03 10:13:27 I remember a trip to France with Mrs. V about 8 years ago. It was a binge fest. Croissant for breakfast, patisserie
for mid morning snack, multi course lunch including cheese course, mid afternoon patisserie, and multi course
dinner including cheese course. We did this for 18 days. She had scheduled a physical the week we got back.
Her cholesterol was like 240+. They wanted to put her on drugs on the spot. They did not want to test her for
another couple of months.
I stood firm on no drugs and forced them to test her a month later. It plummeted to about half. The lesson we
learned? Need to drink more red wine on those binge trips.
2012-02-03 11:11:24 Re: cholesterol
My total was 257 but my LDL was too high and my HDL was too low.
23164 K is for Kate
Red wine, or wine in general raises Triglycerides so be careful with that. It does lower LDL but not to a beneficial
extent. If it helps, you can say it does. Lol
2012-02-03 11:13:34 @luddite - Thanks for the birthday well-wishing and WOW you have an incredible memory remembering the
year!! No wine at all for me yesterday since I I'm down with a cold that wouldn't let me enjoy it. I am thinking I
have to start hoarding some nice bottles that will be hitting their peak in 2016 (and 2026), though.
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2012-02-03 12:08:52 Last Bottle offer 2005 Gruaud Larose for under $50
DAMN THEM. ANYONE want to share for the free ship. I'll take 2
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2012-02-03 12:09:02 @KifK - Happy (belated) birthday! I hope you had a great day!
2012-02-03 12:45:37 NaH: The are out of it now. They replaced it with a Monbazillac. I am not familiar with the bottle that they are
featuring although I am very familiar with Monbazillac in general since it is 25KM from where we always stay. It
is an area basically adjacent to and east of Bordeaux which uses essentially the same grape varieties as Bordeaux.
Monbazillac allows the addition of sugar which they don't allow in Sauternes. Otherwise, they produce wines are
very, very similar. My favorite red wines from the area are from Pecharmant which is possible, but difficult, to
find in the U.S. Both areas have had very little name exposure and, as a result, suffer from low prices and
present some incredible values. I always bring back some of both when I go to France.
As for this deal, I can't recommend it only because I am not familiar with it.
23169 mr21cbs
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2012-02-03 12:48:55 Any thoughts on the currently CW featured Barbaresco? I have never had one and sure am intrigued by the deal,
but is this the one to start my experience with?
2012-02-03 13:12:10 @Vinny
Thanks. I was in communication with MR21 trying to get the Gruaud when they sold out.
23171 luddite
But you have to admit, 05 Gruaud under $50 is good. I like the producer.
2012-02-03 14:51:35 @NaH: My understanding is excess sugar raises Triglycerides (stored mainly as fat around the middle), so don't
drink fortified wines. My Triglycerides are under 100 so no worries there either...
@Ki4K: Last year a blizzard for your Bday and this year sick :( Feel better soon!
Today's ship for 4 free deal was on WTSO yesterday for $16.95 FS on 4...
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2012-02-03 14:59:12 NaH: It was a great price but I'm not all that enthralled with the Chateau. The two standouts for them were
2000 and 2009 with a lot of inconsistency in between. In my world they have been a consistent under achiever.
2003 and 2005 were overshadowed by the competition.
For 2005 Parker gave it an "89?" He said:
"Tasted on three separate occasions, this cuvee exhibits a dark ruby color (with much less saturation than many
wines of the vintage) as well as a distinctive, herbal, meaty, horsey nose, medium to full body, good depth,
power, and richness, and soft tannins. The wine’s rustic aromas and earthy style are intriguing and provocative.
While an excellent effort, the 2005 Gruaud Larose is not one of the stars of the vintage. Anticipated maturity:
2011-2022."
Its been a few years since I tasted it, but I found it medium bodied, herbal and kind of greenish. It was a
passable, correct wine, but not a seductive one. And, I'm not sure that age would have helped it but I am open
to being wrong.
Sometimes the wines are closed down and show kind of lean and greenish where age may bring them out. I just
don't get the feeling that it will happen with this wine.
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I guess that I am not crying about missing out on the deal.
@BD: Here I go again! In on today's '03 Belguardo Mazzei "Belguardo” Garagiste offer!
That Itailan wine is hard to resist.
i had to pass on the mazzei its good wine for sure. i just need to save my bullets for very very selective sweet
spot things...i am so far beyond capacity... and i have enough supertuscan for now. Frankly, the Le Sughere is
awfully good for a fraction of the price of that Garagiste offer, but the Mazzei is great stuff. Cheers all have a
good weekend.
Rosenblum called me tonight to offer me killer deals on some of their wines. Damn them! After BerserkerDay
and then a trip to the LWS on Wednesday (I bought 5 cases of the '05 Wayne Gretzky Cab Sauv @ $9.99/750) I
can't buy more now. Argh!
@BaroloDude: when you were next to that statue of Phil in Dublin, this is what should have been the
soundtrack......Good Lord above, Thin Lizzy is something we all should embrace....................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqRJtUorPMg
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2012-02-03 23:53:52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDPnyzRTP2k&feature=related
Un*(&(* )(*) believable................three of them have passed and the world is worse...........this is dedicate
dto Barolodude and all that really appreciate rock and roll....
2012-02-04 04:14:59 Damn you Bdude! I just ordered some Oreno because you had to mention Super Duper Tuscan sombeothch! You
know that is my sweet spot for..Eyetalian....merlowwwwww or tever it is.
2012-02-04 08:25:32 5K heart walk/run this morning then dinner tonight at our favorite MB French restaurant to celebrate (hopefully
that we were able to finish the 5K) with Trigger Fish over Lobster Risotto and a BYOB '09 Domaine Drouhin
Arthur Chardonnay
2012-02-04 09:23:31 I have been experimenting with cleaning decanters. As of today, I have had pretty good success using CLR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqvDD_L7Y_M
I don't think that the product is exactly intended for this particular purpose but, hey, its pretty darn good. The
instructions want you to leave it on for a few minutes. They also suggest diluting it depending on the application.
But this is America, darn it. More is better. If diluted is good, undiluted is better. If a few minutes work, hours
work better.
So, my forumla for success is to dump it in, leave it, full strength, overnight. Voila. I'm not exactly certain how
food friendly this stuff is so I rinse and wash the heck out of it afterwards.
23185 vinmoet
2012-02-04 09:32:22 We use our decanters quite a bit. They also get left with dregs in them overnight. Over time, they attain a
certain patina that encourages us to keep them out of the light. For years I've been experimenting with various
methods of cleaning the decanters with limited success. I have finally stumbled upon a technique that is by far
the best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqvDD_L7Y_M
CLR is basically a consumer friendly acid that removes calcium and mineral deposits. You either use a little for a
few minutes, or dilute and use a lot for a bit longer. However, this is America. More is better. If a few minutes
are good, hours are better. If diluted works, undiluted works better. So, I dump it in, undiluted, and leave it
overnight.
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Now, I don't know exactly how food friendly this stuff is. So, I wash and rinse the heck out of the decanter after
the process. At the end of the day, these guys are pretty darn clean.
2012-02-04 09:37:53 Long time, no see. Any thoughts on the Cinderella deal this weekend?
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Hmmm I don't see where my prior post is, but any thoughts on the Cinderella offer?
@TO - Nice. Very nice!
Hmmm... I posted and it disappeared into cyberspace!
Anyway, nice post, TO!
2012-02-04 13:25:57 Test (please ignore)
2012-02-04 13:28:00 Anyone get in on the '96 Burgess on TSO?
2012-02-04 13:48:24 there seems to be a direct correlation between the degree to which I have been overserved and my command of
the English language.......
2012-02-04 16:00:27 TURN BACK THE CLOCK on Cindy until noon Monday. So much for not buying anything in February *sigh*. Picked
up some of the *other* 2010 Urbans-Hof riesling vineyard & a couple other inexpensive whites that should
be good for the summer.
2012-02-04 16:07:47 WL TBTC2012 sale: https://winelibrary.com/specials/14943-recindy2012
Looking for recommendations...
2012-02-04 16:08:34 @Ludd- Congrats on your Buckeyes today.
2012-02-04 18:25:35 @Ludd- c0ngats on your Buckeyes!
2012-02-04 19:34:34 Bbob: When in Spain and in the south of France in the fall, we eat fresh olives in the restaurant. Are you aware
of fresh, edible olives in the fall in Cali? If so, any ideas on how I can buy them for shipment out to the midwest?
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2012-02-05 07:49:02 Happy Birthday to our "super" inmate in Vermont! Nice of the NFL to put a game on just for you!
2012-02-05 08:36:21 Wow, no posts at all yesterday?!?!
Happy Super Bowl Sunday!! What's on tap for consumption during the game?
In case anyone hasn't seen yet, CinderellaWine is doing a Turn Back The Clock sale until noon Monday.
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23207 mr21cbs
2012-02-05 08:59:36 Happy Birthday, TonyO!
2012-02-05 09:10:37 Our spam plugin subscription expired, and started to treat everything as spam. I have renewed the subscription
so we should be good for another 12 months. Happy posting and let me know if anything else craps up.
23208 vinmoet
2012-02-05 09:33:56 Hmmmmm,
when my decanting comment didn't publish, I tried again. I don't own stock in CLR, really.
Thanks for getting things fixed CBS.
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2012-02-05 10:53:29 Zoinks! The Hills experiences technical difficulties and appearances are made by Rick and castello! Nice to see
you both in the Hills! Hope you stick around!
@TO - Happy B-day!! Hope you have a great day!
23211 luddite
@cbs - TY sir!
2012-02-05 11:02:19 @McMalbec: Thanks! Guess the Buckeyes were due after losing 9 in a row at Wisconsin...
@mr21cbs: Thanks for the fix!
Sorry about the mishap with the posts. Was away at a swim meet with the kids and didn't check my emails. I will
start reading my TH email on my phone so if anything else goes wrong just email me tremblinghillswinetasters at
gmail dot com or call my google voice number (267) 982-2182
@cbs - no need to apologize! How did the boys do?
One is nursing an overworked triceps (too many push ups that caused an inflammation, so he did not swim). The
other one won 3 first places out of 4 events that he swam in. 200 medley relay (breast), 200 free relay and
100IM. Terrific stuff. Next week is the League Champs, which will be much tougher and competitive, and both
will compete.
Michael ... whatever happened to no apologies? :)
@cbs - Congrats to your son for a great showing! Hope the other feels better!
Our nonsense posts vs. supporting your boys swim meet? Not even close!
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2012-02-05 11:17:25
2012-02-05 11:28:10
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2012-02-05 11:37:37
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23219 BrunelloBob
Well if an apology on @TonyO's birthday doesn't get him to put in an appearance here then I don't know what
will :lol:
2012-02-05 15:03:10 T.O.: I'm Sorry it's your birthday. :lol:
Vinny: I got nothin' on olives. I really don't like 'em, though it's kind of fun when they show up in the flavor profile
of a wine. Wish I could help. Maybe BDude or Castello? They live west coast, I just make occasional visits...
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2012-02-05 15:17:24 TO - Happy Birthday young man! Enjoy your day! I hope all your teams win today!!!
^
Inmates...Enjoy the big game tonight....remember it is just entertainment unless you or member of family
generates an income from the event. Gambling winnings are considered income by the IRS. Be well...hold fast to
that which is good...including the football...or in my case... the cheese wheel I am carrying to a friend's house.
"Baxter, No I am not mad you ate the entire cheese wheel and pooped in frig; I am impressed"
^
Pats 30 Giants 28...take the 3 points...Say good night Irene.
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2012-02-05 16:15:08 BrunelloBob - how about the 12 vintage Brunello on Garagiste?
2012-02-05 16:37:59 No Apology is a book by Mitt Romney (I would apologize for the political reference but you already know how I
feel about that and it is my birthday so....)...thanks for the kind words....time to get me game on ....35 years since
the last time the Vikings were in the Super Bowl.....made for a rough Monday for a rather young TonyO.....enjoy
the game......GO PATS !
2012-02-05 16:53:23 T.O. for once finds himself on the right side of the field... :)
23224 BrunelloBob
HMan: "12 vintage Brunello on Garagiste"?
Good trick re: the vintage... The garagiste site just confuses me, I can't find a brunello, Can you provide a link?
23225 Hinrgman
2012-02-05 17:05:11 B² - short detail if you are interested in more give me your email and I will forward full details.
Canalicchio di Sopra 12 Vintage Vertical - $798.62
1 x 1994
1 x 1995
1 x 1996
1 x 1998
1 x 1999
1 x 2000
1 x 2001
1 x 2003
1 x 2004
1 x 2005
1 x 2006
1 x 2007
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2012-02-05 20:31:03 So far the wines and commercials have been better than the game...
Go Giants...
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@TonyO Happy birthday!!
2012-02-05 22:03:34 Congratulations to the fans of the NY Giants! Nice game!
2012-02-05 22:08:06 DavidT, I thought overall the commercials sucked. Half time was very nice IMHO.
2012-02-06 00:21:21 @mr21cbs I was simply going by the fact that I laughed more than I have the past couple of years. I agree, they
are nothing to what they were a decade ago.
Funniest part of evening- I was literally in tears laughing at Bradshaw's touchdown act
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3VoyTFC1cw
2012-02-06 07:23:54 A very happy birthday to our head warden (retired) who made this asylum all possible! May nurse Ratched grant
you unlimited meds this day and may your beautiful @boop nurse you back to health tomorrow :D
2012-02-06 09:23:27 @cbs & all - I, too, thought the commercials were rather blah. I specifically watch the game for the
commercials and was rather disappointed. (Admittedly I did not see all of them as I was switching channels... ) I
did, however, enjoy the "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" reference. Cute!
2012-02-06 11:44:32 Recovering from Super Bowl Mania in my hometown and all of its volunteers and workers that supported the
NFL's biggest stage. I was lucky enough to have a supplier offer tickets to my wife and I and thought I'd share
some pics with you from our seats and the experience at NFL Tailgate 2012.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27227729@N06/sets/72157629200650411/
Congrats to the Buckeyes this weekend and to the mr21cbs swimmer (hope your son recovers). So was any great
wine opened this weekend? Unfortunately, there wasn't a great wine/beer selection for the Super Bowl events
so I was limited to margaritas and some good ol' Budweiser or Miller Lite.... I am ready for some wine this week.
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2012-02-06 14:00:58 PSA: In case any of the inmates are considering the current LBW offer:
Connoisserus' Guide to California Wines
(Score) "78 CUMBRE OF VINE HILL Miller Vineyard Chardonnay Santa Cruz Mountains 2008
$34.00
23240 BaroloDude
Between its chemical challenges that smack of plastics and rubber and its sour, green apple fruit, this wine is
bothersome from front to back. Hickory chip flavors and toothpicky, chalky textural elements add to its too
obvious woes and send it to the back of the pack.
Reviewed: December 2010"
2012-02-06 16:44:06 that garagiste offer was just cruel. 800 bones for 12 great wines... not saying the value per bottle was off, just
that i couldn't justify that big a purchase all at once. WOuld have been nice to cherry pick a few out of that set.
I like Canalicchio Di Sopra...
re superbowl, here is my problem... HAVE WE ALL JUST ACCEPTED LIP SYNCHING ? THey could have just
showed a film or video of Madonna then... so what she danced in front of a lot of people live... whoopeee.
PERFORM! SING.
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23242 A Frayed Knot
Lame game, lame half time. The puppy bowl was better.
2012-02-06 17:31:44 The puppy bowl. Was that the Giants against the 49R's????
2012-02-06 18:49:58 Thanks Ludes.......you must be part elephant...you never seem to forget these special days.
I've been informed that today is your unbirthday...........and also since I'm not allowed to apologize for missing
TonyO's birthday......I'd like to wish the both of you a very happy unbirthday! ........(I may feel like the mouse in
the teapot before this day is over)........ Now back to weeding the garlic beds..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5FC6E5Gh4E
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2012-02-06 19:19:33 Happy B-day AFK! Don't be such a stranger!
2012-02-06 21:43:50 My SIWBM survived the TBTC on CW this past weekend. I enacted a new method: I didn't look! Of course, now
reading what others bought, I have regret, but my credit card doesn't...
2012-02-06 22:10:20 AFK, happy birthday! I second the motion that we need to see you more often!
2012-02-07 09:38:16 No posts in nearly 12 hours?!! Someone please break the sanity!
2012-02-07 11:28:29 Lou, it must be after the Super Bowl hangover. Plus everyone seems to be overbought on wine and avoiding the
enablers.
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@BLou: Our new motto: "Don't look, don't tell"
@mr.21cbs: do you archive past Inmate QPRs?
MC: Look under the "pages" tab (upper right on this page), then QPR list.
I'll second the Andezon as a great QPR, BTW.
And not just because joeg would say it isn't ;)
2012-02-07 14:02:38 MC, as stated by BrunelloBob, here is the list of the former QPRs: http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/qprlist
2012-02-07 14:10:07 Update on Last Bottle combo pack from last week: My six combo cases of '07 Rose and Sancerre arrived today
and I briefly chilled them for sampling. I thought the Rose might have a chance of being over-the-hill, but it is
quite refreshing (and my wife really likes it!). At $5/btl delivered from CA to FL in nice foam shippers it is an
even better deal, especially since my LWS has it for $30/btl: http://www.b-21.com/2007-Chateau-Paradis-Terresdes-Anges/productinfo/FRPATA07AE/
This might not make it to my son's wedding.
The Sancerre is even more to my palate: crisp, mineral, fruity. I am ready to get some fresh scallops to sear with
this wine tonight. A perfect Sauv Blanc easily worth 3-5 times the $5/btl price.
Alas, I should have bought more, since I am sharing this order with others, which leaves but 3 combo cases for
me.. Should Cory read this and still have access to more, he can contact me as I would take more of this combo.
Thanks, Cory, for a real steal!
2012-02-07 14:47:00 Mags: Thanks for reporting back.
I balked on that offer because of age, but will look at similar LBW offers differently in light of your experience.
It's that kind of info sharing that I love about this place.
That, and Brooks' whack-a-doodle sense of humor...
2012-02-07 14:53:36 BrunelloBob so my fixing of constant bugs and keeping you away from your family doesn't attract you? Alright, I
get it.
2012-02-07 15:01:32 Guys...since we can't apologize here I won't. I was recalling the '09 Andezon as being previously listed as a QPR. I
only recently tried the '10. Did not catch my vintage error. But, its fun to go down memory lane, isn't it? Hey at
least we got some posts up around here.
CBS: You'd think I of all people would have been on top of that one. I'll try to be better in the future. Blame it
on lack of meds. You are doing a banner job, so thank you.
2012-02-07 15:14:33 Sorry CBS: I only like you, I don't love you... :oops:
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2012-02-07 15:35:18 With regards to the '10 Andezon I took a peak at the cellertracker notes. Several folks were complaining about
brett and it had an average score of 87.
I've had, I think, 3 bottles. I have not had any issues like that and found it to be very serviceable, good CDR. I
tend to be alcohol sensitive but did not have any issues with that either.
23264 BrunelloBob
Has anyone else noticed some of the issues raised on CT?
2012-02-07 15:56:58 I've been through a half dozen bottles of this stuff. I've got a note on one of them that references "celery" in the
background. Strange note. I can see others interpreting that as brett, especially if they had more of a clue...
23265 Brooks
2012-02-07 18:04:29 HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ALL WHO I MISSED...snap ...caps lock is the bain of my existence and broken red guitar pics
^
AFK...Alice in Wonderland......sushrooms anyone?
^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_7C0QGkiVo
sorry wrong Alice
^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0
^
Code Red I just opened a lot 179 juice box that was corked..Defcon 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23266 A Frayed Knot
2012-02-07 18:35:05 Chanterelles are the best http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chanterelle ...just go ask Alice......try to avoid those
offered by smoking caterpillars and grinning cats!...........and.....if you know where to look, you can even find
them in Texas...........now where is my Chanterelle soup recipe?
2012-02-07 20:13:27 The kommander suggests brooks slowly backs away from the juice box. Airstrike on its way.New box of red picks
coming via ny petes usps. hang in there korporal.
kaos out
2012-02-07 20:48:14 Poll
What is the most you've ever paid for a wine (along with it's SRP)?
2012-02-07 21:01:30 "That, and Brooks’ whack-a-doodle sense of humor… " - BB
23269 John O'
23270 BuffaloLou
23272 TonyO
P.O.T.Y.? (Post of the Year?)
2012-02-07 21:56:59 @jpakma: great pics.....thanks
@AFK: a late and Happy BD
Hope all is well with all,..................
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2012-02-08 12:33:37 really Kaos, via the old usps?
2012-02-08 13:25:50 @all - if you haven't been following it, there's an amazing thread on Wine Berserkers about suspect fraudulent
DRC (and possibly others) wines going to auction tonight in London. Don Cornwall did an amazing job exposing
the wines, and the issue has become viral on the 'net. If interested, here's the link:
http://wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61172
23287 TonyO
23288 Hinrgman
23290 BaroloDude
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23295 vinmoet
2012-02-08 15:59:02 for those inclined to enjoy a glass of Pinot Noir, the Roessler is a good deal on WTSO.....
2012-02-08 16:36:42 '09 was a rough vintage in Oregon. Have you tried this wine?
I've only had 2 or 3 decent pinots from the '09 vintage.
2012-02-08 18:07:15 Didn't the Chanterelles sing "My Girl"?
2012-02-08 18:43:48 Vin - I read this article and all I could think of is you and your children.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816.html
2012-02-09 10:23:24 H: I had seen the article too. Am not so sure I completely agree with her but see elements of truth.
1. In France you do not see children in the restaurants unless its a Sunday. Only singles and couples. Thus, you
will never see disruptive kids there unless there are kids. We routinely get compliments from restaurants there
about how good our children because its not common. Also, they usually think we are an English, sometimes
French, family so you can't blame it on our being Americans. If you see unruly kids in the restaurants here it may
be partially because we're culturally different, but its also because there are kids in the restaurants.
2. The techniques she finds to be a revelation are the same ones that appear in a number of common parenting
guides here in the States. I would suggest that many middle class/educated folk tend to read these and as a
result tend to have well behaved children regardless of which country they come from.
3. She is a new mother. As new parents,we are all insecure, lack knowedge, lack confidence and are sleep
deprived. She is getting her information from the locals around her. Their answers bolster her insecurity and
help her through her problems. I suspect that she puts them (as French) on a higher pedestal than they may
deserve. I suspect she could have a similar experience living in my home town or yours.
23299 BrunelloBob
4. Whether here or there, any parent who puts time in with their child gets a child who tends to be more
mature, respectful and successful. I suggest that her circle of friends reflects a similar philosophy which may or
may not be reflective of the country as a whole.
2012-02-09 12:24:32 We should send all American children (except Vinny's, and maybe cbs') to France to be raised by French parents....
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2012-02-09 12:56:17 I
2012-02-09 13:08:41 BBob: Here's a sample of reality...http://aupairmom.com/can-you-say-exploited-in-french-au-pair-asks-what-todo/2010/06/08/celiaharquail/
Hey, why don't you get a French au pair? (FOR the KID BBob, not you!)
2012-02-09 15:33:18 "Au pair" of french! Heck, I don't even want ONE! :D
Now an Italian au pair... :) :)
23306 vinmoet
(Full disclosure: No smelly kids in the BBob household. That's the only reason I can afford to kinda drink at the
same level as some of you guys)
2012-02-09 16:29:41 BBob: France vs. Italy in the old West:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsPHPykEPHg&feature=related
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23310 BrunelloBob
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2012-02-09 19:02:03
2012-02-09 21:01:18
2012-02-09 21:07:03
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2012-02-09 21:20:06
23313 emerwine
23314 BuffaloLou
Brigitte Bardot vs. Claudia Cardinale...could it get any better?
Just looked at the map of who's on-line. Who's in Manchester, IA?
Exxxxxxxxxcellent!
Awesome video.
~
BrunelloBob, do the kids smelling of chlorine count as smelly?
Wow. Brings back memories; great drum solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnYnSnVmXvM&feature=related
2012-02-09 21:40:14 Great post BLOU, I just ended up winning some bottles on the spectrum internet auction that closed at 9pm .
LOL. The bottle I usually bid on are usually under 100 bucks. It is just amazing how the same bad guy goes from
one place to another to move his fake goods.
2012-02-09 21:46:57 Another "Wow!" Two guitar greats. Never knew they played together. Carlton and Ford:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yERTIErjTE4&feature=related
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2012-02-09 21:50:05 @emerwine - Hopefully no DRC in your lots! LOL! Seriously, those were some amazing posts on that auction
over at Berserkers! As most said, there were some good buys so long as one stayed away from the
'questionable' lots. The price range where you usually buy sounds pretty safe, at least from what was stated.
I saw that a lot of 12 '77 Taylor vintage Port went from BSP750! Damn! That's a really good price! In fact, it's a
steal!
I hope you enjoy your wines!
23316 BuffaloLou
2012-02-09 21:55:13 OK gents (all due respect to the ladies), what sexier than a really, really, really sexy babe that can play the axe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WfKtdFiO2k&feature=related
Here's her latest (which I really like):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSeR0Z2NFBs
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23323 BrunelloBob
2012-02-10 17:21:46 Testing, testing, is anybody out there?...
2012-02-10 18:02:03 "The only ones here is us chickens"....
Sorry cbs, even clorinated kids are smelly. They're born that way; you can't wash it out. :)
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23326 BuffaloLou
Don't fret though. Even Vinny's kids are smelly, and they're rumored to be Very well behaved. Besides, kids are
like french wine. Some people like a little "funk"...
2012-02-10 18:34:48 Well said, BrunelloBob. It is kinda boring around here. Any plans for tonight? What are you drinking? My usual
Friday festivities are not happening, I have had a crazy week and need some high ABV Shiraz or Zin.
2012-02-10 18:39:18 Thank goodness we didn't have to go 24 hours without a post! I kept checking back, but...
@cbs - I like your choice for tonight. Any specifics? Presently deciding what to pop for tonight. Hmmm...
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2012-02-10 18:54:17 Hey it's Syrah night in AZ as well! Just popped a bottle of Garagiste Mystery wine #30, which turns out to be
McCrea, Boushey Vineyard 2007 Syrah. ABV 14.8%. Now in decanter. will try to remember to report later.
Presently sitting out on back porch enjoying 75 degree sunshine with a vodka and tonic. Played golf wednesday
in shorts and polo. Unreal weather this winter. HOWEVER, later this month the PGA Match Play event roles into
town and there is a big PRCA Rodeo (which is a big whoop around here complete with parade and time off from
school) so I am expecting cold rainy conditions will be here then
23328 BuffaloLou
2012-02-10 19:17:08 Decided to pop a '95 Araujo Syrah (I like their Syrah better than their Cab). Drinking beautifully on the pnp.
23329 mr21cbs
2012-02-10 19:17:23 BuffaloLou - my last bottle of the 2005 R Wines Shiraz First Class to start with. If it goes down, I have 2007 Saviez
Zinfandel in another decanter. Russian pelmeni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelmeni) for dinner.
23330 jpakma
2012-02-10 19:28:17 Going to open a Syrah tonight too. Just popped a 2009 Copain Syrah Les Voisins. I've been crazy busy at work this
past week. I wish I had your weather louas!
2012-02-10 20:00:09 Did anyone get the Long Meadow Ranch Cabernet 2007 on Empire. It sold out quickly, now they are offering a
Burgess Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon 2007. Nice cabs.
2012-02-10 21:01:59 I'm on a 2010 Michel Gassier Côtes du Rhone Villages Visan Cercius:
About what I've come to expect/enjoy from the Southern Rhone at this pricepoint, though a bit thin. Decent QPR
at $13.98 from The Temple. The CT 88 is spot on.
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23332 BrunelloBob
Re: the 2007 Burgess: Based on my experience with the 2006, that's gonna need some sideways time...
23334 BuffaloLou
23339 BrunelloBob
2012-02-10 23:00:09 @cbs - two nice choices! I've heard good things about the R Wines Shiraz' and I know the Saviez Zins are
fantastic!
2012-02-11 07:22:07 @CBS
Yes, the 1st Class Shiraz is terrific. I'm also down to 1 bottle.
2012-02-11 08:04:22 FWIW: The 2009 Flora Springs Cab Franc on WTSO at $19.99 looks like a good play.
23340 Hinrgman
23341 mr21cbs
I had the 2008 and really liked it, and if Newman says the 2009 is even Better....! :lol:
2012-02-11 08:30:28 B² - that certainly is a nice wine, picked some up myself also.
2012-02-11 08:34:41 BrunelloBob and Hinrgman, I did as well. A few Cab Francs I had from Napa were terrific, so I gave this one a go.
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2012-02-11 10:49:08 If there are any Adelle fans out there, I got my wife the live at Royal Albert Hall CD/DVD set and its is really good.
I wish I had waited a few days to present it as a Valentine's gift, so if any of the inmates are married to Adelle
fans (last minute gift idea hint hint...)
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2012-02-11 11:57:32 Who out there is a big Port drinker? I am pretty much open to drinking anything grape based, but I have not
developed any passion for Port myself.
For you Port drinkers, what do you look for?
2012-02-11 15:30:07 @Vinny - I love port. I love the intense fruit forward flavors, black fruits; a lot of depth and power. A great
vintage port is almost overwhelming, transcending the experience to an elevated level.
I remember back in the early 90s consuming bottles (with friends... ) of '77 Fonseca. It was incredible! Intense.
It was my only 100 point wine, and there hasn't been anything like it since. Makes me want to pop one...
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23354 BuffaloLou
2012-02-11 15:35:36 Oh man is it nice today. Windows are all open and we are doing a light spring cleaning. Maybe 76 degrees.
Mystery wine #30 a bit of a disappointment, sorry to report. Fruit forward, alcohol well balanced and not hot at
all. But no finish. No tannins. Nothing much on the back end. Now in fairness, this arrived just a week ago and
maybe still is all shook up from the truck ride.
Tonight Filets on the grill with polenta and asparagus Plan to open a 2005 Haut Medoc. "The Winemaker's
Collection, Cuvee #1" made by everybody's favorite Michel Rolland!!!!!!!!!
Today is Ms. Louas' son's 26th birthday. He is a special needs boy operating at about 5 yrs old. He (and Ms.
Louas) have really been a blessing for me. What I ever did to deserve their love is beyond me. Pizza party to
celebrate tomorrow. Cheapo wine will be featured.
2012-02-11 18:25:05 @louas: Happy Birthday to your wife's son. I suspect you give as much love as you receive :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AN7S7n8VdM&feature=related
2012-02-11 18:44:57 Vinny, actually taking a bottle of 2003 Grahams to a friends party tonight. 2003 was supposed to be a great year
for Porto, looking forward to it.
2012-02-11 19:45:15 @louas - Happy B-day to Mrs. Louas' son! Today is our son's b-day, too, but he's half that age. Became a
teenager today! We celebrated with his fav meal... charcuterie and cheeses. Works for me! Served (not him... )
with a '95 Castello Banfi BdM.
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2012-02-11 21:24:38 I had actually logged in after a long absence to see if anyone had advice on how to pick up wine shippers
cheap/free. But saw Louas' post and can't help mentioning that we just had my brother in law over for a last
weekend meal before the move (yes for those of you playing the home game, the Jovinos are finally moving to
Dallas March 1). Frankie is also developmentally disabled and he's 44, but functions like a ten year old. It has
been so hard for us to tell him we were moving since his Dad moved away 20 years ago and has barely contacted
him since. I am very happy to hear about Louas' positive attitude and experience. Mine, as a brother-in-law, and
non-caregiver is of course very different. I just need to say that after watching a straight line decline since I met
him five years ago, Frankie has made enormous progress in the last year. The incredible and seemingly sisyphean
efforts of his mother and a couple of dedicated social workers (he is institutionalized due to the violent
tendancies of those with his disease) have worked a near miracle. I applaud Louas, his wife, and everyone else
who understands that the lives of those who might otherwise be written off can have incredible meaning and are
very much worth fighting for (so long as you don't totally neglect the able bodied/minded along side them).
I've missed you guys. I'll try to log back in when I get settled. If anyone in Essex county has a bunch of styrofoam
2012-02-11 21:26:06 You know your a redneck when......
a dinner party consists of a roaring campfire, wild boar three ways.....ribs, hams, and chili.......washed down with
apple pie moonshine!
Stick a fork in me..........I'm done!
2012-02-11 21:36:08 Happy birthday to both Ms. Louas’ son and young Mr Alex! Lou, enjoy the ride the next seven years will definitely
take you on (I guess literally in three!)
:
My mom's career is a physical therapist for children with special needs, and she has set up numerous activities
for adults with special needs through our church, including a yearly week-long summer camp. Having
volunteered there throughout high school/college though unfortunately not since I moved to Cleveland, I can
truly say it is a joy and privilege to work with them, and many have become true friends.
:
@AFK That sounds absolutely delicious. If I must become a redneck to enjoy it, so be it.
2012-02-11 21:50:40 Welll said Jovino....
(and not just 'cause I'm 3/4 through a 14.4% Napa Cab).
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2012-02-11 23:31:16 @Jovino - email me scouterlou at gmail with your shipping addy. I'll send you some shippers. I'm happy to get
rid of them and happier still to see them used.
@AFK - stop teasing us like that! Campfire... wild boar... Day-um! (Think I'd avoid the moonshine, tho!)
@David T - Thanks! We can't believe he's a teenager. The years have flown. We're truly blessed. He's a good
boy; good student (although he has to work at it, at least he does!); sooo musically talented (must have been the
mailman! LOL!) and excels with his Karate and in Scouts. Blessed we are, blessed.
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23366 WineKnurd
2012-02-12 01:05:46 Tragic news about Whitney Houston tonight. RIP.
2012-02-12 10:44:56 BLou- drank that 2003 Vintage Port last night. Of course still young and fruit forward, but lots of development
throughout the bottle- damson plums, plouts, raisins, creme de cassis, and about halfway through the bottle I
started noticing the bitter pecan shells. Flavors were very clean and it was silky smooth, drank too easily IMO! Its
drinking well right now but probably won't open my next bottle for at least 5 more years.
23368 louas
2012-02-12 13:11:20 Thank you for the kind thoughts and birthday wishes for Andrew. Last night's Cuvee #1 was a really nice bottle of
wine. Balanced and just right with a steak. Temp expected to plummet to 72 today.
I grew up with the Willis Reed-Bradley-Frazier Knicks. It has been a long time but I am all in for the LIN-SANITY!!!
23369 wine magnet
2012-02-12 13:13:28 Jovino: Not knowing in which Essex County you reside (NY,NJ, MA.VA, or other) or if you are shipping these wines
or transporting them yourself, I may have shippers of different multiple designs/materials available. At the end
of Feb, probably any type shipper would be OK for a trip to TX. Should you be fortunate enough to have a
relative or obliging close friend who works for FedEx or Delta, those employees get a 75% or more discount on 2
day air service. My son works for the latter and is now shipping wines I have ordered for him to Atlanta, where
he is based. He picks them up at a FedEx Office/Kinko's close to work. The cost for each case from SW FL to GA
is a little over $1/btl. UPS or FedEx Ground would be at least $3/btl as a regular consumer/shipper. If you have a
LWS which ships fair volumes with either, you might be able to get them to use their account so you can take
advantage of their volume discounts (your volume might even help them to get into a lower price bracket).
If you will sent/post the address at which you would like to receive shippers (a commercial location will be the
cheapest place to send), I can calculate my cost to ship boxes from FL. I probably have at least a dozen case sized
and some 4s, although I took 7 to thewinetobuy.com just yesterday. spcentsp at knology dot net
I will be out of town all day Monday and would not be able to weigh/price shipping until Tues at the earliest.
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2012-02-12 13:30:50 @vinmoet and other Bordeaux drinkers: Yesterday when I visited Mitch, the owner of thewinetobuy.com in
Sarasota, I ordered a couple of special items from the impeccable cellar storage of one of his customers who
must reduce his stash of Bordeaux (and others) because there literally is not enough room to walk into the room
to examine the contents. Mitch says that there are several hundred
23372 wine magnet
2012-02-12 14:00:09 @vinmoet and other Bordeaux drinkers: Yesterday when I visited Mitch, the owner of thewinetobuy.com in
Sarasota, I ordered a couple of special items from the impeccable cellar storage of one of his customers who
must reduce his stash of Bordeaux (and others) because there literally is not enough room to walk into the room
to examine the contents. Mitch says that there are several hundred cases of Bordeaux, more than he has ever
seen in one location during his decades in the wholesale end of the wine business.
I bought what is believed to be the last 9 bottles of 1990 Chateau Leoville las Cases for $120/btl (check
winesearcher.com pro for current pricing!!) and I am waiting to hear pricing on other vintages.
Should anyone have any special desires, send them on to me and I will ask Mitch to try to decipher the collector's
notes, or you can call Mitch directly and tell him that Carl in St. Pete alerted you to a Bordeaux collection. I am at
spcentsp at knology dot net
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2012-02-12 15:21:46 Thanks WM. Just sent you a gmail email.
2012-02-12 23:21:34 Maybe it's just me, but I no longer see a link to WL TV episodes or the forum on the new WL front page. Has Gary
abandoned social media?
2012-02-13 00:32:38 @WineKnurd Here's the new GaryVee social media... online video is so 21st century... oh wait...
https://twitter.com/#!/garyvee/status/168840542933884929ortee
edit: shortened link here: http://pinterest.com/garyvee/wine/
note: that's Gary V with two E's... what kind of a dumba$$ screen name is that?!?
23380 BrunelloBob
GVaD |(
2012-02-13 06:22:01 DT: What's the "over-under" on The Demigod losing interest/shutting down that project? Maybe 6 weeks?
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2012-02-13 07:17:52 Ever since he stopped WLTV he's become irrelvant. He was an innovator with WLTV and Sirius, now he just
boasts about how he is an innovator. My wife's loves pinterest, ergo, I am not interested. I believe that when
you look back about his wine reviews you will notice that his reviews and what he scored had some relationship
to what WL was selling. Not claiming outright shilling, but he knew that what the score was. Perfect example
was Le Craps. "ummmmm 89issssshhhhhhhhh, 90 you don't understand wine like I do. I lost respect for GV
when Phredd told me he commented that "he doesn't roll out of bed for less than 10grand."
23382 johnr
2012-02-13 07:21:07 Oh and commenting at a tech confence about how its soo important to listen to the customer and have a 2 way
conversation. They talk about how HE build brands based on putting customers opinions ahead of profits. Next
day he pulls the plug on Cindy's comment section. I wonder if sales are the same since Nov 1 2010?
23383 BrunelloBob
2012-02-13 07:38:06 J.R. and I aren't feeling loved.
I know my problem is that I wasn't breast fed as a baby.... ;)
2012-02-13 09:21:14 johnr, I have tried to follow GV in his new social media market prognosticator role, but just don't see the same
level of credibility, originality and, as you said it, innovation. He is not Techcrunch, Mashable, or Robert Scoble.
Most of his messages are cliche at best. There is something to be said about the focus on customers as the
message behind "The Thank You Economy" book, but practice what you preach, fuel the community you built, do
not overmonetize the good. I do buy much less from WL because I don't like their site, the GourmetLibrary has
been down for months, there are many solid offerings from others. My loyalty would only go so far...
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23386 BrunelloBob
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2012-02-13 09:57:48 @B²: Are you familar with this producer/wine '06 Mastrojanni Brunello di Montalcino? Thumbs up or down @
$42?
2012-02-13 10:40:35 @Ludds: Legit producer. Strikes me as a good price, but I'm not blown away by it in this market.
@cbs: good post
2012-02-13 10:58:01 Actually, I feel that BW is much better at addressing my concerns than GV was. GV was all about the
grammar!!!!!
BB: I was dropped as a child, however according to Mobius...
2012-02-13 11:32:39 @Ludds I've had the Mastrojanni San Pio Toscana IGT in both 06 and 07 for around $31 per bottle. They were
very good, haven't had any of their BdM.
@AFK and TonyO Happy Belated Bday!
I've been riveted by the Wine Beserkers potential counterfeiting scandal lately so I've been there more than
anywhere.
Hope everyone is well...
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2012-02-13 12:11:23 @JR: Mobius dropped you on your head? Was he breast feeding you at the time??!?
(I KILL ME! :lol: :lol: :lol: )
2012-02-13 14:02:19 wine magnet, BLou has been kind enough to ship some of his shippers to me. I could certainly use some more of
the case size. please email me at jonahpet at yahoo for my address and fedex number if you'd like to send some
more. i thought out my options for the move and i think I had a pretty good idea on wine friendly shipping. i am
hiring local movers on both ends to do the pack/unpack and I am contracting directly with a trucking company to
do the haul. that way i can lock up an entire truck (with room for my car) and ensure a direct route (three days
maximum). i can buy as much or as little insurance as I like and control the process. if anyone knows of a reason
why that won't work, please speak up now while I can still change my mind.
2012-02-13 14:07:23 Wine magnet - i know you said you wouldn't be able to ship for a while. I won't be packing my wine until the
27th, so I have a little time.
2012-02-13 14:09:33 If anyone has a move planned for March, please contact me for shippers. I'd love to continue the favor bestowed
upon me here.
2012-02-13 14:51:46 @Jovino - I have 11 case shippers here at work. I know I have more than that at home. I'll see what I can
condense tonight (to free shippers) and ship out to you either Tuesday or Thursday.
2012-02-13 15:57:12 re: Whitney Houston - ""It looks like it was a lethal combination of prescription drugs and alcohol, but it's still to
early to rule out other causes. That's just what it's looking like now," the official, speaking on condition of
anonymity, told FoxNews.com."
2012-02-13 15:59:54 @B²/WiM: Thanks for your inputs! I decided to pass and it's a good thing as better deals have come along on
Wineshopper and WTSO Platinum...
2012-02-13 16:12:02 Luddite, what have you been buying from WTSO Platinum. There are two interesting reds on WTSO and WTSO
Platinum right now, but I am unfamiliar with either, although leaning towards the Broman Cellars, Beckstoffer
Vineyards Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 2005. Anything in particular you would be looking for during their
Cheapskate Wednesday?
2012-02-13 16:36:51 CBS - with regard to the QPR, I'd say you've got us covered pretty well. Love the disclosure.
As usual, great work CBS. Thank you.
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2012-02-13 16:47:55 @mr21cbs: Just purchased the '06 Antinori Tignanello for even less than @David T/WiM and I paid when we got
a great price from Garys.com.
As far as cheapskate Wednesday possibilities, I recently purchased the '05 Burgess Cab Library Release:
and the '06 Bodegas Poesia Clos Des Andes Malbec Reserva
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23405 BrunelloBob
23406 vinmoet
2012-02-13 17:40:36 Leave GV alone yea bunch of Bozos....I've had enough of this...I'm off!
2012-02-13 17:51:18 Off your rocker?
Off your meds?
Off the reservation?
.............. :) ...........
2012-02-13 18:20:11 Am trying to get some info to make a decision, posted this over at Cindy:
Williams Selyem was written into American wine history by its founders Burt and Ed. They are famous for using
traditional Burgundian techniques for making great Pinot in California. But they sold the company quite a ways
back. The current owners spent big bucks on a new, fancy facility...quite the opposite of the way the founders
put the company together.
I've not tried their wines. I am on their list and am going to buy some. The question is, how much to buy? I have
palate for old world wines and have generally found Cali Pinot to be over extracted and too high in ABV for my
palate.
Theoretically, these guys would make a Cali Pinot that I should like. So, will I? Does the current ownership
replicate the ways of old? Should I be scared of the capital investment and its modern influence on the
winemaking? In short, is this good stuff and will I be happy buying more than a few bottles? Would appreciate
the input of folks who have had this.
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2012-02-13 18:47:47 @vinny: We all know that I'm not qualified to comment, but @WiM loves a good pinot and recommended this
site to me:
http://www.princeofpinot.com/winery/154/
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@BD has also supplied input on these pinots...
2012-02-13 20:48:12 Vinny: I got nothin' for ya on Billys Seylem--I ordered for the first time today.
Pinots better have some fruit in 'em, bot like those frenchy things,,,
2012-02-13 21:49:06 @vinmoet I can't help either but I bought 4 bottles during their fall 2011 release (1ea of Bucher, Eastside Road,
Flax and Hirsch). I've yet to open a bottle.
Drinking a Molly Dooker Two Left Feet tonight that was part of a gift someone gave me. I really don't like this
wine, kind of like a bottle of cough syrup it's so extracted and oaked. MEH! May have to open a beer or go for a
scotch.
2012-02-13 23:09:33 @vinny - re: Billy's Seylem - you may want to try wine berserkers. There's so many contributors there that you
might get more info than you can use...
2012-02-14 08:35:58 Happy Valentines Day Everyone!
2012-02-14 09:17:43 @Jovino – I'm up to 13 case shippers, with more to come. I'll start processing them today.
Happy V-day to all! Kiss your sweetie and hug your children! And be sure to have a piece of good dark
chocolate!! Goes well with a Cali Cab or Zin, IMHO. ;)
2012-02-14 13:47:53 I will second Wine Magnet's sentiments on the Rose/Sancerre offer from Last Bottle. Have not tried the Rose,
perhaps tonight, but the <a href="https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=557527"
rel="nofollow">Sancerre</a> is a steal for the money. Fresh, crisp, vibrant. We had it with grilled cod, then with a
variety of fruits and cheeses, all of which went exceptionally well with the wine.
2012-02-14 16:05:16 Shall we partake of the Amorone at the Chateau?
2012-02-14 17:16:44 mc- which chateau is that?
2012-02-14 17:39:33 Taking Mrs. V out on the town tonight. The V-Day special pairs wines with the courses. Arrrrggg, no French
wines and I can't take my own (or won't since I am paying for the pairing whether I want it or not). Am scared,
alone, confused. Don't know the wines...
Anybody have any of these? http://www.shout.net/~radiom/source/barspecials.pdf
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2012-02-14 20:02:10 Michael: I'm glad you agree with my sentiments re: the LB duo offer. I took both to Mitch at thewinetobuy.com
on Sat, just for him to try and to guess the prices. He thought they were both starting their downhill journey but
also thought that either was a steal at $10/btl, at which he would have loaded up. When he learned the real
price w/free shipping, he was incredulous. If nothing else, Cory generated a lot of conversation/interest with a
short-lived offer. I am waiting for the March offer of similar value which he promised in an email. I hope I don't
miss something equally outstanding!
23430 McMalbec
2012-02-14 20:23:26 @hingrmanhttp://www.winechateau.com/sku90180_FACCIOLI-BAFFO-DEL-GRIPPI-AMARONE-DELLA-VALPOLICELLACLASSICO-DOC-750ML-2005
2012-02-14 21:19:38 @McM - There really isn't much info out there on that AH MA RO NAY, is there?
2012-02-15 09:17:24 Need advice on a wine magazine to educate, enlighten myself and discover wines, regions, etc. Any suggestions?
What do you read?
2012-02-15 11:33:59 Vinmoet- Obviously I'm too late to offer any advice on your non-French wines for last night and the only one I've
had is the Donnhoff anyway, but I'm curious what you chose and how it was. I am fascinated by a couple of their
options, namely the 2009 Emilio Bulfon Sciaglin Frizz (Sciaglin is a grape I have never tried and I think the Frizz is
meant to indicate that it's sparkling, so that makes me extra-curious) and the 2003 Silvano Garcia Dulce
Monastrel (sweet Monastrel sounds like it could be fun).
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2012-02-15 11:34:01 CBS: I subscribe to Wine Spectator (even though I ignore its Bordeaux reviews). I'm like a bug attracted to a
bright light and WS is too flashy for me to ignore. I subscribe to Wine Enthusiast because of that really cheap
offer that was posted here some time back. I concede that I won't renew it but I've got another 4 years.
You can subscribe online to Burghound (used to subscribe, will renew), erobertparker (current subscriber), and
rhone report (been there not a current subscriber). For fun look at wineandspiritsmagazine.com and also
wineanorak.com.
For my favorite "horizon broadening online subscription service", I like jancisrobinson.com. You get world
reviews and articles talking about various regions. This is a great go to website.
Parker's site is too disjointed. You are basically using its reviews as tools on researching wine versus its articles
although on occasion they can be good. I subscribe to it for that purpose plus I get access to Neil Martin notes (I
was an early devotee of his way back when he was a reckless independent with his own site).
I'd recommend books. The must have is the wine encyclopedia by Jancis Robinson. It covers everything and is a
go to source when you have questions plus is a great read if you are a serious learner. Online materials just
won't give you the underlying detail that a smart guy like you is going to want to get at. She is arguably the
world's smartest reviewer, has world knowledge, and I would suggest buying any book that she has published.
Use her name on Amazon to see what is there.
At some point, I will post the worthwhile wine related books that I've read. Some are nerdy others are
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2012-02-15 12:09:39 Kate:
It was a lackluster selection for my palate.
09 Donhoff Estate Riesling was the best. Simple, fruity no structure no complexity but a very nice wine. Could
see serving it at a large party. 86VM
07 Testarossa Pinot Noir. High ABV hit you over the head. Muted cherry. 82VM
90 Churton Sauvignon Blanc. Tasted to me like New Zealand SB and guess what, it is. If you like that profile,
you'd like this. I found this version simple and acrid. Candidly, Kim Crawford would have been a better option.
83VM.
08 Ascheri Bricco S. Giacomo Bebbiolo. I am sure that this is an inexpensive wine. Not exactly an expert on
Italian wine, but don't need to be to find no structure, minimal fruit, minimal minerality. Passable meh. 82vm.
09 Turley Juvenile Vines Zin. I am not the world's biggest Zin fan, so discount my comments accordingly, but I
have had some of the best Vins so I've got a clue. This had crazy high ABV, displayed a heavy, jammy component
yet managed to hide its fruit. How, I just don't know. Not much more to comment about. 82vm.
09 Vivalda Moscato d'Asit clean, simple, citrus notes, bit of yeast. A decent working class desert wine. Drinkable.
84vm.
03 Silvano Garcia Duke Monastrel. Uncomplicated straightforward wine maybe a bit long in the tooth? Possibly
bottle variation. 82vm.
23444 BuffaloLou
Kate, sorry, we did not try the Frizz. Am not sure what happened, but I though that we had ordered it but never
d 3 more case boxes for you (for a total, IIRC, of 16.) If you still need more, I have more; I just
2012-02-15 13:28:45 @jovinod- dI have
have to do more digging and re-arranging. Let me know.
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2012-02-15 14:33:46 @ vinnymoet...
I would recommend Littorai if you want the most Burgundian styled RRV/Cali Pinots. The acidity can be bracing
at times, like most red Burg i have tasted (and still struggle to find something i like at all).
Williams Selyem has
some bottlings that you might like, I get a few of them myself on allocation, but not as burgundian as Littorai.
Stick to more SOnoma Coast bottlings, as they tend to have more "terroir" and not be fruit dominated, IMHO of
course. I am no expert here ... i just know what i like (in order of my faves: Lynmar, Failla, Rochioli, Dumol,
Williams Selyem, Peay)
If you can find a Failla Keefer Ranch Pinot from 09, buy one. Vinopolis had some recently for a fair price. I love
that bottling every vintage... and also try Failla Occidental Ridge PN, a bit more coastal sonoma earthiness in it.
With Lynmar, try the Bliss Block (their more available Quail Hill is great, but prob more RRV style that you don't
like, the Bliss Block has more earthiness and spice in it for sure, even though its just over the other side of the
same hill...)
23446 David T
dave underscore lieb at yahoo if you want to discuss more... cheers.
2012-02-15 15:41:12 @mr +1 on vin's WFW suggestion. Pricey but worth it. Discounted subscription here
http://secure3.subscribeonline.co.uk/finewine/offers.sol?ctry=45&mag=QUARWFW&cmp=CT2008
23447 vinmoet
2012-02-15 16:03:09 Thanks Dude. That is a very helpful list indeed. Appreciate the feedback.
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2012-02-15 18:03:13 vinny, anytime.
Littorai is the most burgundian styled cali PN i have tasted, and yet it still stays true to a Cali identity,... if that
doesn't sound too pompous. I struggled at the tasting to like morethan one or two of the bottlings, but i could
tell with some age there was greatness in there.
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Here is some info on Littorai and Ted Lemon, the winemaker. he won winemaker of the year back in 2010
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/26/FD6U1GUFAJ.DTL
a snippet:
The simple version of Ted Lemon's story: Young American goes to Burgundy. Becomes first American to run a
Burgundian wine estate. Comes back and stays true to Pinot's motherland.
That would be the easy version, but it misses a crucial fact. For a quarter-century, Lemon has been hunting along
the remote California coast, seeking places that speak absolutely of their roots and making wines that purely
reflect a California sense of place.
"Being a slave to Europe is as much a mistake as saying that super-ripe California is a great expression," Lemon
says. "You'll never hear what the land is saying if you just say, 'In Europe, they do this.' "
Few winemakers are as committed as Lemon to the sanctity of California terroir. He is a true believer in its
potential - specifically in the ability, along a coastal stretch of Sonoma and Mendocino counties, to find unique
sites for exceptional grapes. His quest provided the name for the 4,000-case winery he and his wife, Heidi,
founded: Littorai, a plural for the Latin of "coasts."
Littorai wines are among the purest, most long-lasting expressions of Pinot Noir and Chardonnay in the New
World. They have earned Lemon a reputation not as a Burgundian interpreter of California, but as a true
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2012-02-15 18:41:49 Dude: Ted's quote says it all. He gets it. I remember seeing an interview by Jancis Robinson of Lalou Bize-Leroy
who is of the Romanee Conti family and was ousted there and left to start Leroy. She is one of the finest
winemakers, period.
Jancis asked her to taste an Oregon Pinot. She tasted it, said that it was very good and technically correct but
that it didn't display its terroir. She said that Oregon (and I think Cali) needed to focus on making wines that
reflected their own terroir, to find their own identity, and not worry about copying Burgundy.
For me Burgundian technique is about letting terroir show in the wines. Over extraction/chemical-mechanical
intervention is certainly a style, but it IMHO obliterates any concept of terroir.
While I hang with the guys in Bordeaux, I have mixed with the winemakers in Burgundy and with the guys in the
Loire. All three areas say the same thing that Ted is saying...Cali needs to focus on its terroir. I think that this is
the wave that more of Cali is getting into and thus it is an exciting time there with the best yet to come.
23453 mr21cbs
2012-02-15 22:23:51 Vinmoet and DavidT, thank you for your literature recommendations. I will definitely look into WFW and other
magazines. For my birthday I bought the World Atlas of Wine, Jancis Robinson's The Oxford Companion to Wine,
The Wine Bible by Karen MacNeil, Kermit Lynch's Adventures on the Wine Route: A Wine Buyer's Tour of France,
and "The Emperor of Wine: The Rise of Robert M. Parker, Jr. and the Reign of American Taste". My father found
the first edition of the World Atlas of Wine and presented it to me as well. So I am comparing the 1st, from 1971
which is my birth year, and the current 6th edition.
~
Kermit Lynch's book is a fascinating read indeed. I found a few producers that he mentioned in the LWS and will
try to taste them (starting with Domaine Charles Joguet Chinon Cuvee Terroir 2008). It is truly an adventure. If
you have any other book recommendations, feel free to share.
23454 BuffaloLou
23455 mr21cbs
2012-02-15 22:39:32 Hmmm... WL site is down. CW site is down. Wine Berserkers site is down. But TH is up!! :D
2012-02-15 22:54:33 BuffaloLou, I can take TH down, if it will make you feel better? To be fair, they do get a lot more traffic than us.
23456 BuffaloLou
2012-02-15 23:01:39 @cbs - I don't think it's traffic. Must be maintenance or something up with the 'Net. That said, TH is doing just
fine, thank you!
2012-02-15 23:08:30 Add Beeradvocate to that list. The site has been down much of this week; the main site has been back up for
about 24 hours but their forums are still down d/t server issues.
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2012-02-16 10:15:29 Chinese military computer intelligence messing with our booze sites? Getting ready to shut down our internet
wine buying in the event of conflict with the Koreas or elsewhere? I'm getting nervous.
CBS: The Lynch book is great, isn't it. You've definitely picked some good material to review. I'll go over what
I've read whenever I'm at home for any period of time and post a few other titles for you. Its addictive reading. I
can recall a few coffee table type of books that I like which you can add to your list:
The Wines of Burgundy - Clive Coates
The Complete Bordeaux - STephen Brook
Bordeaux Chateaux: A History of the Grands Crus Classes 1855-2005
These are all old enough that you can usually steal them on Amazon.
23464 hinrgman
2012-02-16 11:26:06 Interesting article - Smart Phones
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/google-and-mobile-apps-take-data-books-without-permission/
23470 BrunelloBob
23473 mr21cbs
2012-02-16 13:48:23 Anyone besides me amused when Cristal shows up on WTSO?
Not much of a savings, unfortunately...
2012-02-16 15:28:55 I guess after Cheapskate Wednesday, they had to put something on there that didn't require massive amounts
needing to be shipped out!
2012-02-16 16:40:37 I was definitely amused when to reassure the audience that the Cheapskate Wednesday is over WTSO posts a
$65 bottle of Burgundy and today's wines were much more expensive than usual. I guess they needed to catch
on sleep and it is a good way to do it.
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2012-02-16 18:31:48 My JJ Buckley Story:
There's been talk about the private "concierges" with deals at JJB. One of you kind inmates sent in my e-mail
address to get me hooked up, alas I never heard from them.
So, I played golf in Florida Super Bowl weekend and one of the days was at a very nice private course in SW FLA
where the Senior tour is this coming weekend (golfers will know this means it's top notch). Our host was very
gracious and, as it turns out, an oenophile and a Notre Dame Trustee (despite my avatar this was not a positive
for me).
So, my band of bandits assigned me the task of sending him a thank you bottle. I searched around and found a
magnum of 1990 Conn Valley Cab that was within my cheapskate friends budget.
The next thing you know, I get an unsolicited e-mail from Charity at JJB thanking me and putting me on her list.
Today, I picked up 3 cases of pre-order 2009 Bordeaux's at unadvertised discounts.
It's funny how when you make this a passion, the dots start to connect.
2012-02-16 18:35:02 Is there such a thing as everyday Brunello? With the planned grilled pork chops, mashed potatoes and a garden
salad it is time for 2005 Domus Vitae Brunello di Montalcino. $24 from WTSO.
~
What is your prestige or price limit for an every day drinker? Is there such a thing - an "every day drinker"? A bit
philosophical, don't you think...?
2012-02-16 18:42:31 @Mr CBS
That amount seems to be on an upward incline.
I'd have to say, I'd feel no guilt in opening a $24 Brunello on a "school night" for no particular reason.
2012-02-16 20:15:06
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=858674" rel="nofollow">2006 Hyde De Villaine
Chardonnay</a> - USA, California, Napa Valley, Carneros (2/16/2012)
Truly enjoyable. Nice to have a Cali Chard that wasn't all oak. Mango, passion fruit, and coconut on the palate.
Slightly creamy with some vanilla. Beautifully balanced. Would still like to see less oak and more fruit, but a solid
effort! (90 points)
23480 BuffaloLou
2012-02-16 20:18:53 re: everyday drinker: Good question, cbs! it was <$10 up until a year or two ago, but it's moved up to
<$15 lately. That said, there are still <$10 bargains to be found. Just recently picked-up 5 cases of Wayne
Gretzky No. 99 Cab Sauv '05 for $9.99.
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2012-02-16 20:19:03 @Australian John: "3 cases of pre-order 2009 Bordeaux’s at unadvertised discounts". That first JJBuck guy that
didn't get back to you screwed up. Bad. :lol:
@cbs: "Everyday Brunello" used to be called rosso di Montalcino. With the floor falling out of Brunello pricing,
that's changed...
Your thoughts on the Domus Vitae? I've seen it on WTSO but never had it or heard of it otherwise. Not
optimistic, but at that price it's hard to lose... The D.V. rdm is up on WTSO right now at $14.99 BTW...
23482 BaroloDude
23483 BuffaloLou
23484 BuffaloLou
2012-02-16 20:31:42 random thoughts and bon mots...
- I don't think of brunello as a daily drinker... ROSSO di Montalcino on the other hand, absolutely. Cannot go
wrong with La Fortuna, Ferrero, Sesta Di Sopra, Piancornello, La Gerla RdMs at under 20 a piece... Brunello
needs heartier fare (steak, big a$$ pasta sauces, etc.) and i don't eat that every day. Just my opinion!!!
- WOrst cheapskate WED yet (thank you!!!) absolutely NOTHING i was interested in all day. Very grateful for it
too.
- re todays big WL supertuscan deal... did these two reviewers taste the same wine? "Full and velvety, with
pretty strawberry and blueberries with just a hint of vanilla bean. The texture and finesse to this wine is
beautiful. Drink now but better in 2012. Sangiovese and Merlot." 92 Points James Suckling.............."Though firm
and youthful now, this red boasts a core of blackberry, raspberry, floral and mineral flavors. The juicy texture
offsets the tannins, and the aftertaste echoes sweet fruit. Sangiovese and Merlot. Best from 2013 through 2023."
91 Points - Wine Spectator......... one says Full and velvety, pretty... the other says firm and youthful... these
are opposites to me. No? Leaves me on the sideline wondering what the heck i would get if i bought this.
- sometimes the iPod does wondrous shuffle based things. "I predict a riot" by Kaiser Chiefs followed by the
30min live version of Dazed and Confused. Perfect and i would have never thought of playing them back to back.
Live Zepp, i have been away from you for too long my old friends. And then Mystical Potato Head Groove
Thing... cool. What next ipod?
- Opened a bottle of that Giulin Barbera d Monferrato that GV pimped last year... just ok. Got a bit better after
20min open, but very mild stuff. Seepage on the cork, so check yours if you got them. Definitely ready to drink
yesterday.
2012-02-16 20:54:14 @BD - I concur, it wasn't a good cheapskate day. That said, I did try to get in on the Abelis Carthago "Lui
Selection" Castilla Leon Red, but it sold out as soon as I tried to buy. (I had a bottle of this the other day and it
was rockin', esp for the $!)
2012-02-16 21:17:55 Rec'd an email from Cameron Hughes re: Lot 285 Rutherford Cab Sauv. Given the info that the vines were
originally planted by Andre Tchelistcheff, I'm wondering if this juice came from BV. Hmmm...
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2012-02-16 21:41:20 How does a professional sports team go from leading "2 goals to 0" to losing "7 goals to 2" (adjust "goals" to the
sport.)
The Sabres suck.
2012-02-16 21:43:11 <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1113410" rel="nofollow">2005 Domus Vitae
Brunello di Montalcino</a> - Italy, Tuscany, Montalcino, Brunello di Montalcino (2/16/2012) 
2 hours of decanting and still funky nose. Some cherry compote, wild flowers, farmers shirt. Nice dark ruby color.
Well integrated alcohol. Not a bad wine for the price and it matched well with the food of prosciutto, cheeses,
salad, grilled vegetable spread on sun-dried tomato crackers. (89 points) Posted from <a
href="http://www.cellartracker.com" rel="nofollow">CellarTracker</a>
2012-02-16 21:45:56 BuffaloLou, you do that very easily when playing the Flyers. They have been dreadful the last 4-5 games, so it was
time for the offense to wake up. Your Sabres were the victim of some @$$ kicking by the coaches and the fans.
Better luck next time against another team :evil:
2012-02-16 21:47:16 BdM vs RdM, I have had quite a few of the "daily" Brunello's in my local market, and honestly I haven't found one
that compares to the $20-$25 Il Poggione Rosso, and absolutely no contest against the $60+ Il Poggione Brunello,
which I consider a "real" Brunello. I tried the Piancarello of Cindy back in the day but wasn't overly impressed
either.
I don't think "Brunello" means what it used to, back when only the big players had enough juice to get their
wines into America. Its like Brunello is now suffering the same fate as Chianti did back when the market became
flooded with cheaply produced wines.
2012-02-16 21:54:55 BaroloDude I do not consider BdM as an every day drinker either, but was in the mood for something bigger and
bolder. The price I paid was close to the RdM you are talking about and it kinda shows in the Brunello which was
good but not great, as expected.
~
How are your girls? Especially the little one?
~
I happen to agree about the WTSO Cheapskates sale. Although I did get a few California reds, a Rosso Di
Montalcino, and a couple of simple, everyday 2009 French reds, there was nothing regretful if you missed it.
Overall there are way too many wines available at bargain prices.
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2012-02-16 23:39:32 @mr21cbs A year ago I would have said $10-15 for daily drinkers; something inexpensive, readily available yet
tasty. Save the good stuff for the weekend when you can relax & don't have anything to worry about but
focusing on the wine. These days, I'll open pretty much anything any time. If it would be a good pairing with
dinner, if someone's doing an online tasting, even if I'm just in the mood for something specific.... pop goes the
cork.
2012-02-17 06:42:53 mr21cbs: If you like Southern rhones which are predominately grenache, the current LB offering, '08 Vindemio
Regain Ventoux is pretty hard to beat at $8/bottle with FS for 12, which is certainly the lowest price in the US. If
only I had more room for deals like this, but I'm drinking recently arrived more expensive wines (Ondarre,
DeSante Oakville Cab, and Amity and Soter North Valley Willamette Pinots) as dailies because I can't get them
into cool storage.
2012-02-17 09:27:25 Interesting comment re: Brunello going the way of Chianti. There's an important difference, however.
Brunello started with high quality producers. Yes, production expanded and quality arguably suffered as more
(less desireable) land was brought into play and marginal producers began to export, but those core, quality
producers from the 60s, 70s, and 80s are still around. I'd argue the core guys still dominate the market. Yes,
there are some cheap, mediocre Brunelli around, but the quality is still available if you pay for it.
Chianti, on the other hand, has been dominated by volume, low quality producers from the beginning (let's say
1950). Quality got better recently, and there are a few real quality producers, but the poles are reversed.
Whereas Brunello started with/is dominated by quality that has been somewhat eroded recently, Chianti started
with/is dominated by low quality/volume producers and quality has improved recently.
Not exact comparisons, but close.
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2012-02-17 09:44:40 JJ Buckley seems to have a nice variety of QPR '09 Bordeaux. I posted some finds for Raffy on Cindy who is
building his cellar.
When I think about the bargains we like in that sub $30 range and there are numerous low 90 Parker scored
wines paired with other 90 scores in that range, '09 Bordeaux is a buying opportunity. Remember, I've been
telling you about this since, well, 2009. The time has come.
For you finicky cheap skates, I like
http://www.jjbuckley.com/Bordeaux-2009/c~0~v~9590~st~~vi~2009
http://www.jjbuckley.com/2009-Cap-de-Faugeres-Bordeaux-Blend/p~2009~2047~750
For a quality wine that will be a great long term cellar wine with accessibility along the way, for $40 this is a great
wine:
http://www.jjbuckley.com/2009-Arrosee-L-Bordeaux-Blend/p~2009~2269~750
There are plenty of sub $20 wines, even sub $15 wines too. Those are not for the long haul, will drink young, and
will keep 15 years or so. IMHO you can peruse the reviews, the prices, and then pick and choose and I don't
think you will be disappointed.
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23502 mr21cbs
23503 KenI
23504 BuffaloLou
My new Binnys opens today!!! No more trips to Chicago just to get to a Binnys. This is a very big deal.
2012-02-17 11:30:16 Woot off today!
So far, I've see two Petite Sirah offers. I caved on both. I hope they start offering something else, for my wallet's
sake...
2012-02-17 12:32:08 Wine Magnet, I picked up a case of the Vindemio Regain 2008 COTE DE VENTOUX from the Last Bottle and will
split it with relatives and friends. I still have a few bottles of 2007 Vindemio Côtes du Ventoux Imagine which I
really enjoy.
2012-02-17 12:49:45 @BLou You're in trouble, I read it's an all PS woot off.
2012-02-17 12:58:35 @KenI - oh dear... Yet another is up. You may be right!
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2012-02-17 13:27:26 21cbs: I like the Imagine very much as well, but it is primarily syrah. It is well-made, IMHO (meets my taste
profile), although it was a bit pricier from LB at $14, which was still a good QPR for me.
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2012-02-17 14:30:11
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2012-02-17 15:06:05
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BLou: I am so glad that I just don't have room for more wine, because I would have been ordering Petite Syrahs
since 6AM with the woot off today.
Happy Friday inmates! New limited Ship4Free 4 pack listed if anyone is interested.
SHWIIIING!
Nice offer Adam, I'm IN!
Nice pack, Adam!
@WM - somehow I missed your post. Room? Who needs room? Got a floor? Store the boxes on it! LOL!
These killer PS just keeps on going on this Woot-Off.
yep, nice pack. in
@ hinrgman - A lot of good offers. I passed on the Foppiano, tho.
sorry I missed the Clayhouse and Kent Rasmussen on woot off. so annoying when work gets in the way.
Enjoy the LINSANITY this weekend!
23519 McMalbec
2012-02-17 19:41:34 @ vinmoet: thank you for the Bordeaux suggestions earlier today. What is your thought on the Lilian Ladouys?
http://www.jjbuckley.com/2009-Ladouys-Lilian-Bordeaux-Blend/p~2009~11570~750
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23521 McMalbec
2012-02-17 19:44:05 @louas-no champagne last night, just bitters.
2012-02-17 19:48:35 @BuffaloLou: I was excited about the upcoming D&D Wootoff until I looked at my current inventory of
Petite Sirahs. Now I'm trying to block it out of my mind and keep it off my browser.
2012-02-17 21:27:24 McM. Re: Lilian Ladouys 09. Good wine, great vintage, good buy
2012-02-18 00:25:30 @McM - it was a tought day with the Woot Off; thank goodness for low buy-ins! Skipped the Twisted Oak, but
went in on the David Fulton juice boxes.
2012-02-18 10:09:49 @McMalbec
Re Lilian Ladouys. Relative newcomer to Bordeaux. Lots of money spent. Well made in a modern style, but not
classic bordeaux style.
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2012-02-18 11:40:45 Just caved on the von Hovel 2007 Scharzhofberg Riesling Spatlese now on Last Bottle. CT reviews looked good,
and I need to expand my Riesling inventory (one area I don't have many)
Had a great sushi dinner last night with mr and mrs21cbs and friends in Philly at To Yo. Hope the boys do well
today at their meet!
Cleaning out all the expired foods from my mom's house so she doesn't get food poisoning... then to the store!
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2012-02-18 11:47:39 vinmoet: Are you familiar with 2000 Chateau Lynch-Moussas? It is available from a LWS (B-21) at $50/btl as a
pre-order for April delivery (by which time I may have some room if I consume/share 2btls/day to the end of
April.
2012-02-18 13:33:16 sweet deal up on Last Bottle:
2006 Mt. Veeder Reserve Red
$36 / SRP $80
93 WE and 89 WS
2012-02-18 13:33:17 Graupel today, followed by lake effect snow with about 100' visibility.
2012-02-18 13:35:38 @JO: SWEET deal on the Mt. Veeder Reserve! I've had many other vintages. It's one of my favorite Cali reds.
FS/4 to boot! Argh!
2012-02-18 14:38:38 @Buff Lou
Why don't you blend it with some of that Petite Sirah stuff. You could create a whole new blend category.
2012-02-18 14:40:42 Petite Meritage
2012-02-18 14:42:42 Wine Magnet- I love the 2000 Lynch-Moussas (followed by the 2005 and then the 2003). It retails for $70 here in
NC and I personally would grab bottles at $50. I think it is a great chateau that has really devoted itself to
improvement in the quality of its wines and drinks better than some of its other lower price 5º cru mates like
Dauzac. Hope that helps.
2012-02-18 15:59:50 @JO - all the best wines have some PS included, ya know! ;)
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2012-02-18 16:38:05 Over my last three orders with Wine Library:
1) Wrong bottles sent to me. Returned, but they would not ship the replacement bottles until UPS had picked up
the returns. UPS was a day late. I doubt that was UPS' fault. Replacement bottles sent to wrong address. No one
home to receive...
2) Just noticed I was charged shipping on an order I shouldn't have. I called and they agree to take it off. Would
have killed them to throw in a simple apology? Why should I have to watch every order at every stage?
Between the credit card issues, the systems IT issues, and the 5-10% failure rate on all shipments over two years,
I wonder why I keep doing business with these clowns.
Oh yeah, price.
I guess you get what you pay for,,,
But I'm only going to put up with that so far. Patience wearing thin.
WTSO has NEVER screwed up an order of mine, or had my credit card info stolen. Same for JJBuck, Empire etc.
23550 John O'
2012-02-18 17:39:25 @BB
They do screw up on occasion. A few years ago their warehouse personnel were all on crystal meth. They're
much better in the past year. From my perspective they've gotten a lot better. I pretty much run all my
problems through Brandon and they are all rectified immediately, to my satisfaction and with profuse apology. .
Surprised they wouldn't ship until the return had been picked up. That doesn't sound like the customer service
I've seen.
23551 BuffaloLou
2012-02-18 18:08:07 +1 to what JO said.
And day-um, I go to church and return hoping the temptation is gone, but the Mt. Veeder is still available and
calling my name. {cringe}
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2012-02-18 18:17:38 @Australian John: I guess part of my point is (and always has been, this isn't a new complaint): How hard is it to
get this right?
1) Read the order
2) Put the right wine in the box
3) Ship it to the right place
4) Charge me properly
I know everyone makes mistakes. I made one once. I heard Joeg did once too. But I'm serious, I'm estimating the
fail rate at 15% over 100+ orders. Every time they screw up, I have to deal with it. I'd rather be here ragging on
you guys.
Where is TonyO lately, BTW?
2012-02-18 19:20:10 @BB
Having run a trucking Company based in Newark NJ, I know it's very, very hard to get quality employees in that
neck of the woods. That's why I cut them some slack.
@ BuffLou - you plan on living forever? Go for it.
2012-02-18 20:13:04 Thats the Thank You Economy, baby!!!! On better note 07 Port rocks!
2012-02-18 20:19:45 @JR - What '07 port did you have?
2012-02-18 20:30:39 @A.J.: The Temple needs to outsource to China then :lol:
What are you drinking?
I've been killing the Southern Rhone lately: https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1142132
2012-02-18 20:34:32 JR: Talking about the banner ad, or are you drinking one?
I know pitifully little about vintage port. Too young at this point, no?
2012-02-18 20:34:45 07 cockburns. ..great raisin, creme, strawberry. Alcohol is unnoticeable considering its 20%. Great acid, balanced
considering its young
2012-02-18 20:47:31 @BB - While most say to age vintage port, many (most?) are still approachable in youth. They're huge, fruity,
and high in alcohol. I'd have to say it's dependent on the wine itself, but many can be quite good in youth. Also
depends on how you like your wine.
@JR - Cockburns... yum! Good house! Are you drinking from a 750 or a split?
2012-02-18 20:58:17 @Lou.....750 go big or go home! I ve always enjoyed port younger for some reason.
2012-02-18 21:06:17 Damn JR, port 750s are serious stuff! I hope you're sharing that bottle! ;) (Truth be told, I'm envious... ) Enjoy!
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2012-02-19 11:23:26 14+ hours w/o a comment? That must be corrected!
A cute graphic found on FB to which many of my fellow Scouters can relate:
23577 NY Pete
23578 John O'
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2012-02-19 16:43:34
23579 Hinrgman
23580 BrunelloBob
2012-02-19 16:56:27
2012-02-19 17:38:41
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150564660757151&set=a.219458122150.134170.184855717
150&type=1&theater
I love the sound of breaking glass ... :)
Just opened a 2004 san roman toro
Groovin' on the dregs, while the rest decants.
Life is good.
NYP -you broke another stem?
2005 Flora Springs Cabernet Sauvignon St. Helena Reserve Rennie Vineyard on deck.
Avec grilled ribeye, :)
After the front-line merlot and the cab franc courtesy of WTSO, I'm really starting to warm up to this producer...
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2012-02-19 17:50:25 B² - Have you tried any Trilogy bottling from Flora Springs?
2012-02-19 18:07:42 Not yet, but I've had my finger on the trigger a couple of times...I assume the trilogy has the H-man seal of
approval? ;)
2012-02-19 18:38:39 B² - i can only spek four the 05, 06, & '07, haven't tasted the '08 or '09
2012-02-19 19:49:47 Nite 2 07 Cockburn s port: golden raisin, plum, dark chocolate. Great wine 95pts.
2012-02-19 19:51:01 @JR: Didn't you knock that one out last night? :lol:
2012-02-19 20:12:24 No port is a few night affair. Snow forecasted for the night no work tomorrow.
2012-02-19 21:41:18 Dear Adam of Empire, Sheriff of Albany:
Re: 2005 Château Haut-Faugeres
If your are taking requests, let's play this juice on Ship4Free. My guess it will going very quickly; I will take 4
please. My guess Little John, Friar Vinny, Lady WiM, BrunelloBob-a-Dale and the other nobles may also be
interested.
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Peace
Sir Brooks of Sherwood
2012-02-19 21:45:32 @BLou - You age vintage port, not because it can't be drunk young, but because in its youth, while delicious, it's
too simple and the sweetness is too dominant.
2012-02-19 21:47:09 Baxter..you're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.........
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2012-02-19 22:04:14 @Julius - Yes, I understand, and concur. I was just sayin' that you can drink it young, too.
@Brooks - what can you tell us about this 2005 Château Haut-Faugeres?
2012-02-19 22:11:35 Bodegas Los Astrales Astrales Ribera Del Duero 2007 on WTSO for $35 FS/3!
2012-02-19 22:41:03 Julius spreading wisdom and the two-avatar-Brooks spreading frivolity...
A Good night in the Hills...
2012-02-19 22:43:38 Had an '08 Seven Deadly Zins with dinner tonight. Loved the brambly fruit, highlighted with tobacco and vanilla
notes. Very nice, esp for the $!
Moved on to an '07 Chemin des Rouvieres Vacqueyras (former CW offer at $12, IIRC.) Smells like a barnyard on
the pnp. Initial tasting was pretty much the same. After about15 minutes, the fruit is starting to come out.
Hope it develops more in the glass.
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Update: within just a few minutes in the glass, this wine is improving immensely.
2012-02-20 09:58:44 Am up north of KisforKate skiing in Wisconsin so I've been out of touch.
McMalbec - Lilian Ladoueys is a Chateau that was literally created in the mid 90's by a guy who made the chip
that goes on credit cards. His wife is named Lilian thus the name. He has spent huge bucks on equipment and
consults. The result is a wine that overachieves for its terroir. It is built for the short to medium term (drink by
2020 +/-) and can drink early. Solid QPR type of wine, just not rock star material.
Wine Magnet - I love Lynch Moussas. 2000 is a great vintage, they made a pretty good but not knock your sox
off wine for that vintage. I think its in its drinking window now and good for a decade +/-?
We are about to leave and will be driving south. Am hoping to stop at one of Kate's local haunts, a famous
Chocolate shop in Madison http://gailambrosius.com/ Today is a holiday so they may not be open. Will call to
find out shortly.
Will post up later on my excellent adventure doing the Wisconsin shuffle. Let me say that my attempts exceeded
my goals...
No legs broken, man made snow was better than I thought, kids had a great time. All things considered, a
wonderful skiing weekend. Have great affection for this place.
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2012-02-20 11:03:46 @ Vin-thanks. Getting educated on French wines here, slowly but surely.
Where in WI are you? Sounds like snow on the way tonight; 1-3 inches expected in ne IA tonight. Enjoy!
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2012-02-20 12:59:30 Brooks - I am sorry but the wine is sold out completely from my distributor. I will look into other sources. It was a
great value and I scooped up as much as I could before it was gone. I'll have some more deals on 2009 Bordeaux
coming soon. Thanks!
2012-02-20 14:57:09 @Vinmoet: Thanks for your advice on the Lynch Moussas. What with the '93 Leoville las Cases and perhaps
some '90 Leoville Barton I have coming, I can probably only get a few bottles.
2012-02-20 18:15:45 @vinmoet - Glad to hear there was sufficient snow for skiing to happen! Gail Ambrosius is within walking
distance of me, which is a very nice perk of my neighbourhood.
2012-02-20 19:05:33 Adam/Eve...np...I saw that you had like 70-80 in stock yday...but then again I am confused more than others...or
maybe just another website with IT issues. ;) . But thank you for getting back to me...I was looking for 2005....I
am all set on 2009... Snap
2012-02-20 23:53:12 Enjoying a Wayne Gretzky No. 99 Cab Sauv 2005 tonight. Best $10 bottle I may have ever drank! (OK, it listed a
lot higher, about $50, but it's being blown out everywhere for bug-$10.
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@cbs: a def QPR rec at $10!!
2012-02-21 00:18:39 That was "sub" not "bug"...
2012-02-21 01:02:23 Couldn't resist the Zin on Woot due to the TNs on CT: Woodenhead Old Vine RRV Zinfandel 2006. 124 year old
vines. CT notes: https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=494293 CT92. Never tried this Zin, so I can't
necessarily recommend it, but red the TNs and make your own decision.
2012-02-21 07:29:06 Kent Rasmussen 2008 Esoterica Petite Sirah - on Woot right now. Woot-Off
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2012-02-21 09:27:11 For the Wisconsin shuffle I chose the non vintage Copperridge Merlot. Having never heard of it, I was attracted
mostly by its $16 price tag on the wine menu, there was no wine any cheaper. Imagine my delight (and the
convenience) of its screw top. I was open minded and took a taste. Here are the notes that I found on a
retailer's website:
"a polished, fresh wine with lots of inviting raspberry and blackberry in the bouquet. Medium-bodied with
velvety ripe plum flavored fruit, this wine has a nice hint of vanilla on the finish. Stylish!" $8.99 for a 1.5 liter
bottle.
Stylish indeed. My notes differed but only slightly. "undrinkable Kool Aid, a cross between grape and fruit punch
with a touch too little sugar and a touch too much water. While the label clearly identifies this as Merlot, I really
can't determine what grape variety, if any, this is" The color paired nicely with the white porcelain toilet. In my
research, I have found that the brand is, in fact, a Gallo product renamed for restaurants.
Regardless, thanks to Copperridge we were able to enjoy a Saint Julien, a Pauillac and a Saint Emilion. A great
time was had.
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Oh, Kate. I called the Chocolate shop and got no answer. They must have been closed Monday. We had a late
2012-02-21 09:49:14 Vinny: GREAT note! :lol:
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"non vintage.... Merlot"
I love it when they leave the vintage off.
I don't expect there to be much variation between wintages on a $5 bottle of wine, but at that price level I want
some assurance that it's "fresh".
My tasting note from a local bottle someone gave us. This is a "kitchen sink" white, a genre I have no love for:
N.V. Sharpe Hill Vineyard Ballet of Angels (USA, Connecticut)
5/25/2011
BrunelloBob 82
Celery, grass, grapefruit/lemon. Reminds me of Sauvignon Blanc more than anything. Minimally sweet. Decent
weight but almost burns on the palate. Old?
Neither of us liked this, rare dump of a half bottle. And WTF, Who doesn't put a vintage on a still white wine?
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2012-02-21 11:33:27 IIRC, Copperridge was a label that was originally intended for restaurant sale only. They didn't market it to the
public so the public didn't know the actual price. (Who doesn't get irritated when they see a $20 bottle selling
for $60 in the restaurant?) I remember being able to purchase it in PA as the state stores have to sell all the
wines they carry to anyone, restaurant or public. It was never very good.
Another #$^@! woot off?! I see this isn't all petite sirah, tho...
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2012-02-21 12:03:50 Yesterday, no mail and no banks. Today, office email is down. The powers that be are sure making it difficult to
do my job! Think I'll make it an early day today. We'll see how the email situation goes...
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2012-02-21 13:24:07 Found another '09 Bordeaux QPR. This is pretty modern in style (big and fleshy) but its a quality wine. Can drink
earlier but I like the drinking window between 2017 and 2025.
http://www.premiercru.net/premier/shop/WineDetails.do?wineId=41388
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These '09's provide a lot of wine for the money. RP 91-93 for $27?!!
2012-02-21 16:11:48 If you're on JJ Buckley's Preferred Client Price list and are interested in buying today's "Special QPR"
recommended by @vinny, you're eligible for a lower price (they still have about 6 cases left). I posted this after I
got mine :D
2012-02-21 16:44:46 Happy Fat Tuesday from CH wines: For 24 hours, you can buy a case of Lot 247 (several other lots are also
marked down) for $120 delivered!
2012-02-21 17:32:05 @BuffaloLou - I just got back from Vieques to find a bounty of shippers awaiting. Thank you so much. This will
make moving a tiny bit less scary, however when I am done, I will live in TX, so there is only so much you can do
(no offense AFK).
2012-02-21 18:26:31 @vm/BLou Indeed, straight from the PLCB site: "4073 ERNEST JULIO GALLO COPPERIDGE IMP. MERLOT 1.500 L
$9.99"
@Kate/vm Do they sell Nueske's bacon via retail in the Southern part of WI? I highly recommend it, and if not via
retail I know they have a mail order division. It's the best bacon I've ever had; whenever I or my immediately
family go to Wisconsin to visit relatives, I regularly get it five pounds at a time & ration it by keeping it in the
freezer.
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2012-02-21 18:41:57 David, I'm an Illinois boy and don't know about the bacon in Wisconsin. I just go there to ski and drink
Copperridge. I'm also remembering Kate as a vegetarian though I could be wrong. Yet, she might know of this
mysteriously wonderful bacon.
One of my close friends is Jewish and does not eat pork. However, he explains that bacon is not pork, it is simply
bacon so that its OK for him to eat it. I wonder if your Nueske's is what caused my friend's stumble?
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2012-02-21 19:49:31 VM your discussion of Bordeaux on here and late last year on the WL forums have peaked my interest into
expanding or shall I say focusing on this region during 2012. I am relatively new to that region and have limited
experience with it, so I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts or recommendations on various price points,
styles and drinkability of the various Chateaux's. I know the major differences in the sub-regions, but my limited
tasting experience leads me to rely on others recommendations. I appreciate the last couple of recs you've
posted.
I've been filling a cart at JJ Buckley and Zachy's but have yet to pull the trigger on the wines. I'm a drinker more
than a collector (resale), so trying to build Bordeaux drinkable now, +5-10 years, +longer to age. If you like feel
free to email me at [email protected], unless others are interested in a similar dialogue.
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2012-02-21 21:21:15 @vm I could certainly see bacon in general and especially Nueske's turning anyone from their vegetarian or
religious restrictions towards true enlightenment. Also, unless fowl and seafood are excluded from Kate's diet or
something has recently changed, I recall she did quite the damage to the ducks/crustaceans we had in Chicago
last summer!
2012-02-21 22:07:50 @David T - I have definitely seen Nueske's bacon around here, though it was likely on restaurant menus, so I am
not certain about retail at grocery stores. You are entirely correct that I am a devourer of seafood and
sometimes fowl (that duck was wonderful), but I was mostly pescetarian until a couple of years ago and still only
rarely eat mammals. When I was a kid I used to beg my mother not to make me put bacon on my BLTs.
2012-02-22 04:08:37 @jovino - good luck my good man; I hope you have a safe move! When you get to Texas, please take a moment
to enjoy a great steak! Be well!
My friends, I arrived home from work today expecting to have dinner and to rush my son/Scout off to his Scout
meeting. Instead there was a message to call my step-mother immediately. My uncle/godfather/confirmation
sponsor/best man/godfather of my son (do you get that he is a significant part of my life?) Is in the hospital and
may not make the next 24 hours. The 22 year battle with cancer has been lost. I type this from Altoona, PA, as I
pray to the good Lord for a quick, painless, end. As Brooks would say, "hold fast to what is good.". God bless.
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@BLou: Your family is my thoughts and prayers today.
BuffaloLou, our deepest sympathy.
@BLou: Thoughts and prayers with you and yours...
BLou sorry to hear about your family's loss. Thoughts and prayers are with you and the family.
jpakma: Let's keep the discussion here. People can read or ignore as they like.
2012 is a great wine buying year because the 2009 Bordeaux will begin hitting the shores, 2009 Burgundy is
hitting the shores, and 2009 Rhone will be hitting the shores. All three regions had a great year.
My specialty is Bordeaux although I venture into everything else. '09 will age like '05 but have earlier
accessibility, somewhat like '03. If you are just getting into this, I want you to spend like there is no tomorrow
because this is the year. Last decade was blessed with 2000, 2003, 2005 and 2009. In comparison, there was
1990 and 1995, 1982 and 1989, maybe 1975/1970 and then 1961. 2010 is a smaller vintage that is also more
comparable to 2005...more tannic and built for long term aging. 2011 is spotty and small. We don't know how
long we will wait for another vintage like 2009 which has the quantity and quality with pricing being very good
despite our weak dollar (you can buy block buster wines for less than Cali wines or even South American wines).
A fair strategy is to buy wines for cellaring and to also buy wines to taste and drink. I pick $40 as a price point to
spend on wines that will age while below that the wines will be in their prime earlier. This is a generality with
plenty of exceptions. In that $50 to $100 window you can buy wines that will truly emulate the big premier cru
boys. Of course, its easy to spend hundreds a bottle. These would be good investment wines but that is
generally out of everyone's league.
Left bank wines are generally blended with the majority being Cabernet Sauvignon then Merlot, Petite Verdot
and possibly Cabernet Franc. Right bank wines are generally the same blend with the emphasis on Merlot. There
are a handful of wines where they vary from this significantly.
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All wines meant for the medium to long term go into a tank (cement or stainless or glass) to ferment and upon
turning into wine they go into oak barrels to age, say 18 months. They are then put into bottle, sit for a while,
and eventually ship out. That is why you generally wait 3 years before getting the bottles. Some wines go into
new oak. Others go into a blend of new and old oak. Old oak simply means that they used the barrel one or
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2012-02-22 10:32:54 @BLou Stay strong and keep the good memories fresh. You and your family are in my thoughts & prayers.
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2012-02-22 11:34:03 @Vinmoet: Thank you for the time, effort and expertise on today's
2009 French wine 101. Much appreciated.
2012-02-22 13:30:20 @Vinmoet thanks so much for sharing and appreciate the detail and insights. My only real experience has been
limited to a Chateau in Fronsac - 2004 La Vieielle. I follow Parker and Robinson, and at times Tanzer. Parker's
reviews seem to be in-line with what I experience, and I've learned it's always better to pick a wine that's
received multiple reviews vs. a single review when buying the wine w/o having tasted myself.
I look forward to tasting wines from the various appellations in Bordeaux. I know most of you would ask me to
declare "what my palate likes" but I am in the fortunate position of still identifying those wines/regions that
"move" me. I have such little experience in Bordeaux, I feel like I've got a lot to learn. I purchased a couple of
bottles of 2006 Chateau Le Gay last year from WTSO and tucked those away so I would not even consider
opening for several years - I assume those should lay sideways until +2016?
I definitely plan to buy a few bottles from CellarRaiders and hopefully an auction or two to do some aged
Bordeaux tasting. As I finished my reply I just received the WineEx mailer 2009 Bordeaux: Prearrivals from
Spectator's 'Top Values' list. I realize most of you will respond FWS or "ignore WS" so I will take that mailer and
look for the safety in numbers too.
23666 BuffaloLou
Thanks again for the detailed response - although I am not sure my credit card (or wife) will thank you or be as
2012-02-22 14:39:12 Thank you, all, for your thoughts, prayers, and kind words. Your support means so much!
One good thing, I think, to report: I had a (red) Burg last night. Quite tasty, and none of that Cali PN "iodine"
taste I dislike. I may have to explore this further...
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@Vinnt - I hope to read your tome when I have more time, and when not on a BlackBerry!
2012-02-22 14:49:10 @BuffaloLou - You have my condolences and best wishes. I am so sorry to hear your news.
2012-02-22 14:49:17 jp: 2006 tended to be tannic meaning it wants to age. I'd push it more into 2020. Sorry. If you open one early,
decant the heck out of it say 3 hours or so. Le Gay is a great Chateau.
2012-02-22 15:18:06 @BLou, so sorry to hear about your friend.
23672 McMalbec
As to your one good thing, though, I had a similar experience of thinking I just didn't like Pinot Noir until I tried it
from Burgundy (and just a fairly basic one at that).
2012-02-22 19:21:47 @BLou: My codolences. Best wishes to you and your entire family.
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2012-02-22 21:20:51 @vinny: My local source of tons of Bordeaux from a private cellar found some 2000 chateau kirwan which is
available for $64/btl. Any thoughts/comments? I am unfamiliar with this chateau.
To all: the same seller as above also has some Patrick Lesec Marquis '05 for $22.99/btl in six packs. I am almost
through one I got from him a year ago for $26/btl which I thought was a great deal.. I may finish off a bottle I
opened nearly 3 hours ago. It is singing. I have ordered 2 cases from Mitch, at thewinetobuy.com.
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2012-02-22 23:47:49 @BuffaLou. Sorry about your loss. Better times ahead.
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@Vinmaster aka Vinmoet. Parker Smarker.. We listen to you! Great write up of the 09 Bordows! If you're right,
I'll be one broke but happy hombre.
2012-02-22 23:52:38 Thank you KifK & McM! It's support from all of you that make a difficult time bearable.
@KifK - this, too, was a simple, basic, burg. Soooo much better than a Cali PN! We're going to do a tasting in abt
a month with a CW Burg (IIRC abt $35) with a $60 bottle of Rhys. We'll see how it compares! I will post TNs.
Tonight I popped a bottle of the Ondarre Reserva Rioja. Much, much, better than the first bottle I popped! I
have gone from 'why did I buy this?' to 'Why didn't I buy more?'
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2012-02-22 23:54:25 Thank you, castelloooo!
2012-02-23 01:06:44 I hear you BLou. One bottle will taste great and the next bottle meh. Very frustrating. It happens with many
different wines!?
2012-02-23 07:00:14 @WineMagnet RE: 00 Kirwan a great vintage, producer from Margaux, average price is $80 while the lowest WS is $68
RP 90 WS 92 - Robert Parker 90 Points Still somewhat tannic but very much in the style that Kirwan has favored
over recent vintages, this is a full-bodied, muscular, powerhouse effort. The wine still has a dense ruby/purple
color, with loads of blackberries, cassis, and some noticeable new oak still lingering in the background. Powerful,
rich, and full, this wine needs another 2-3 years of cellaring and should age nicely for another 20 years. Wine
Spectator 92 Points A very reserved wine at this stage, but still shows attractive plum and berry character, with
hints of mineral. Full-bodied, with a solid core of fruit and very refined tannins. Lasts a long time on the finish.
Very, very silky. Best after 2009. 9,580 cases made. -JS
If the provenance was good then that might be a great buy.
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2012-02-23 07:22:16 What is happening in Tucson this weekend?
1. Tonite and Saturday PAC-12 Bball vs. USC and UCLA. I have season tickets, won't be going.
2. Annual Rodeo. Big whoop down here. Schools closed today and tomorrow. (seriously) Not going.
3. Accenture Match Play Golf Tourney is in town with the 64 top ranked golfers. Have probably been offered a
dozen tix. not going.
4. Spring training..for Major League...Soccer. Beckam and the boys play Saturday. Not going.
Instead, 10AM wheels up for 4 hour voyage to Rocky Point in Mexico for a long weekend on the beach eating
shrimp, drinking beer and
and the occasional Tequila.
I trust you all celebrated National Margarita Day yesterday?
Have a great weekend all.
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2012-02-23 07:28:36 Re: the 2000 Kirwan.
Small world. I exchange bottles with a som I know and he just gave me a 2000 Kirwan Les Charmes. I assume it
must be their second label.
2012-02-23 09:18:10 WM: Its a third growth Grand Cru Classe Margaux. I believe that for 2000 the wine consultant was Michel
Rolland who is credited for bringing it back up in quality. I know that he stopped, say, around 2005 and a protege
of his, A. Fokorellis (or some name like that) took over. The price seems pretty fair, a good deal, but not a
screaming deal. This is a wine in that $65 to $85 range. I had this some time ago and remember it as being a bit
bolder than I would have liked...this is a Margaux and should be elegant not flashy. But time changes wine and it
is likely more tamed now. The terroir is excellent, located near the biggest boys. A great vintage like 2000 really
shows itself with age. Parker liked it, scored it 90 points. WS liked it, scored it 92 points. Did not check on NM
or JR. I think that this is in a drinking window now hitting its sweet spot in a few years and declining in 15+?
WA 90: "Still somewhat tannic but very much in the style that Kirwan has favored over recent vintages, this is a
full-bodied, muscular, powerhouse effort. The wine still has a dense ruby/purple color, with loads of blackberries,
cassis, and some noticeable new oak still lingering in the background. Powerful, rich, and full, this wine needs
another 2-3 years of cellaring and should age nicely for another 20 years."
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2012-02-23 09:35:37 WM: I scanned the site. Good values, no screaming deals there. The more affordable ones which IMHO are
interesting include the '86 L'Arrosee which is probably in decline but still excellent. I have several bottles of this
left and they are still drinking beautifully. So if the storage has been good, $90 for a WA92 Saint Emilion ready to
drink? I also like the '96 Calon Segur for $109. That is a very tannic vintage so that is still a young wine. I'd give it
another 5 years. He has a number of rock stars for lots more money. Still good prices, just not screaming deals.
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2012-02-23 11:52:33 @mr21cbs: could you please email me directly? I have a question for you. TIA!
2012-02-23 12:01:00 @BLou - Best wishes in these sad times. On an up note, glad you found a "non-iodine" PN.
2012-02-23 12:54:29 McMalbec, sent an email to the address that you use here... It will be from tremblinghillswinetasters at gmail dot
com (check the SPAM catcher in case you didn't get it)
2012-02-23 15:07:52 BuffaloLou, my prayers are with you and your family.
2012-02-23 16:36:45 @Vinny: On thewinetobuy.com site, you will only see some of which Mitch has in stock. He has access to at least
300 cases of Bordeaux (perhaps many more since the storage facility is tightly packed/stacked with boxes) all of
which have been kept at 55 degrees since acquisition. That is were the Kiran and the '93 Leoville las Cases
($75/btl) and '90 Barton ($120) have come from and they are consigned to Mitch by an elderly collector. The
Patrick Lesec Marquis CdP from his shop to be the lowest in the US on WS Pro at $25,.with wineontheway.com
(another FL seller) at $29, and Spec's has it for $38.72. Mitch's email offer yesterday was $23/btl, by the six pack.
The one I almost finished last night was well worth the $26 I paid Mitch in 2/11. Sometimes Mitch sends out
small batches of emails for limited stock wines he comes upon, and they sell quickly. He thought the Lesec
Marquis was gone last year, but a distributor found some during inventory, so he snatched up what he could,
knowing some of his customers liked it. Hence 2 cases will be there for me on Saturday.
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2012-02-23 19:46:20 @Kaos & Julius - Thank you both!
@Julius - I'm excited about the Burg. Hopefully it will be a whole new adventure.
Back in Buffalo. Funeral on Saturday. Tonight: Relaxing with a glass of red and remembering some good times.
@all - This: http://www.winemadeeasy.com/ is a large, LWS. Anyone want to make some sub $30 and sub $50
red burg rec's for me that are available at this store? Much appreciated!
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2012-02-23 21:03:11 Paging Cindy Wine. Paging Cindy Wine. Where for art thou fair maiden?
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2012-02-23 21:40:28 @BLou - So sorry for your loss. Open something grand in memory of your uncle who has been so special to you.
Thoughts & prayers with you & your family.
Hi to the rest of the inmates,...been lurking but not much time to post. Swimming three days a week, indoor
cycling 4 days a week & running 3 days a week (I know thats more days then there are in a week but
somedays are multiple events, like swim at 6am for an hour then bike in the evening for an hour etc).
Then an occasion glass of vino on the weekends. But I shall celebrate this weekend with my bride at Geneva on
The Lake with great food & great wine!!
Then back to training on Monday.
23697 BuffaloLou
23700 BaroloDude
2012-02-23 21:57:03 @winex - Thanks, Steve! I'm considering opening a nice port tomorrow night when the family arrives. He loved
it!
2012-02-24 03:20:40 Off to Napa tomorrow for daytrip... Elyse, Andersons Conn Valley, and Corison on the schedule, hope to
squeeze in one more somehow. Limo ride thanks to doodledeals... so no designated driver needed!
Unfortunately a lot of the places i wanted to visit (for first time) were all busy with this Premier Napa event preparties and trade lunches etc. Bad timing. Had hoped to visit Staglin, Altamura, Antica... but am glad some
wineries like Corison, Elyse, ACV are "keeping it real" for us punters. Also grateful they are child friendly. Nothing
turns me off faster to a potential tasting visit when you see on their site "We cannot allow children under 21"...
that is BS and you know it! These wineries just have an inflated sense of importance and need to pull the sticks
out of their a$$e$.
Last night Del Dotto 05 Chingiale Pinot Noir was awesome. Still some big shoulders on it, but vastly more
complex and burgundian than the previous 11 bottles i have drank over the last few years. More than just a "cab
lovers PN" now. yes that means the case is gone now. Sad.
Tonights Del Dotto Giovannis Tuscan Rserve (Sangio and Cab) 07 was a bit funky at first, but developed into a
nice drinker. Maybe a bit too much sweet oak in it.
23704 vinmoet
Ciao for now y'all. Get back in touch with your inner Husker Du.
2012-02-24 09:08:47 Bdude: Sounds like a great time. Have fun.
McBaguette anyone?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204778604577241312286387028.html?mod=WSJ_hps_editors
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2012-02-24 09:25:00 Gotta tell ya 'Dude: I consider a wine tasting to be an "adult experience". I'd prefer it if there were no kids
running around. I'm sure yours are well behaved, but Plenty aren't.
It's not that I hate kids, it's just that I think there's a time and a place. Nothing wrong with the rugrats at Disney
World.
23707 mr21cbs
(That'll be a popular post...)
2012-02-24 09:44:51 Le Cercle Rive Droite de Grands Vins de Bordeaux invites you to its New York tasting event Bordeaux Right Bank
Grand Wine Tasting Featuring the outstanding 2009 vintage
Thursday March 8, 2012 - 5pm to 7pm
Consulate General of France
934 5th avenue (btw. 74th and 75th St), New York, NY 10021
Join us as 35 of the most prestigious wineries from Bordeaux's Right Bank present an extraordinary selection of
wines - including the outstanding 2009 vintage.
Wines will be paired with a selection of wine-friendly hors d'oeuvres and French pastries, including Canelés,
called the new sweet addiction in Bon Appetit.
Special discount for Wine Enthusiast readers
40% OFF
$72 for one ticket, $120 for two
Proceeds to benefit God's Love We Deliver, use promo code ENTHUSIAST
RSVP by Thursday, March 1st at
http://rightbank-wine-tasting.eventbrite.com/
PARTICIPATING WINERIES
Bordeaux Supérieur
Balthus
Grand Vin de Reignac
Castillon Côtes de Bordeaux
Château Ampélia
Château de Laussac
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2012-02-24 09:49:01 @MR21CBS and all RE: the Grands Vins de Bordeaux
23710 vinmoet
Not worth the price of admission, even with the discount. IMO, JIM
2012-02-24 10:13:20 I would agree that there are no rock star wines, but for $72 to get to taste all the wines, visit the consulate, and
taste a few things...sounds like a cheap night out in NY. I'd go.
If we could get more lead time for an event like this (like 6 months) I would consider flying out with Mrs. V for a
hills get together. I don't know anybody at the consulate there but I've been known to work my magic in places
more exclusive before to mooch special tours and the like.
These are not heavy hitter wines on the list, but there are a lot of QPR wines.
Bordeaux Supérieur - none of these are complex but...
Balthus - QPR
Grand Vin de Reignac -QPR
Castillon Côtes de Bordeaux - ditto
Château Ampélia - flashy QPR
Château de Laussac - not familiar with it
Fronsac - Generally an unheralded area but with some surprises
Château Dalem - not familiar
Château Fontenil - not familiar with '09 but can be QPR
Haut Carles - not familiar
Château Moulin Haut Laroque - not familiar
Château La Vieille Cure - a QPR
Canon Fronsac - another unheralded are with surprises
Château Gaby - not familiar
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misbehaved children. It's probably easier to not allow them than to go to a parent, especially one that has been
imbibing, and ask them to control their children. It would greatly disappoint my wife and I as we bring our son
along many places, and he is extremely well behaved, but from experience, we have seen many in wineries that
were not.
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2012-02-24 11:04:38 Hey, my talking about future vintages for that tasting reminded me of something I read in the most recent issue
of WS. The main article talked about 2009 and compared it to the smaller and more tannic 2010. It then went
on to say that they were going over next month to do barrel tastings and would then talk about 2011. To tout
my own horn, I would like to point out that the Hills already heard about the 2011 wines in November of 2011.
You guys know, ahead of old Molesworth, that 2011 will be spotty at best. I'd also like to point out that I coined
labeling 2009 a cross between 2003 and 2005 back in November of 2009 while that comparison has only come
out in the past 6 months. Also remember that I compared 2010 to a more limited quantity version of 2005 and
2000 back in November of 2010 whenever they start to talk about it. I recall that my official coinage of 2011 was
spotty and inconsistent (remember we reserve "classic" for really bad years like 2002, 2004 and 2007). Its not so
bad at the Hills, is it?
23714 mr21cbs
2012-02-24 11:04:42 NaH, I wasn't going as it coincides with my kids' junior olympics, but thought that somebody in the NY area could
be interested. After reading your and vinmoet's posts it may be questionable at all.
~
Vinmoet, with some advanced planning, I would love to attend a wine tasting with you, Monsieur.
2012-02-24 12:02:26 I think Cindy/WL needs to hire CBS as their IT person. They have been down for some time.
2012-02-24 12:12:11 Vinmoet, thanks for your vote of confidence. They have been blaming their internet service provider for the
instability, but in 2012 finding a stable server farm, adequate bandwidth, and decent customer support is a nobrainer, especially for a $50+M company. I just don't get it, but what do I know.
23715 vinmoet
23716 mr21cbs
23717 BrunelloBob
2012-02-24 12:23:08 Vinmoet shall henceforth be known as "The French Demigod."
Mr21cbs shall henceforth be known as "The I.T. Demigod"
23718 BrunelloBob
23719 mr21cbs
Quite the pantheon we got going here.... :lol:
2012-02-24 12:32:46 Maybe Cindy's dead.
2012-02-24 12:49:22
23720 john o'
2012-02-24 13:33:34
23721 john o'
2012-02-24 13:34:42
23723 Waiting in Manassas 2012-02-24 18:25:22
Wasn't The V-Chuck Demigod spreading gifts and free shipping codes last time something died?
From @WineLibrary on twitter in reply to my "time to find a new ISP message": this outage is affecting a lot of
people on the East Coast. Bummer.
@BuffLou - sorry for your loss.
2008 Flora Springs Trilogy, $30 each JJB private client deal.
@BLou: Sorry for your loss.
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2012-02-25 09:30:34 @Blou ~ Very sorry to hear of your loss........Hope all is well.
@sqɔ12ɹɯ ~ Server Farms?........tried planting a row of memory chips in my garden, but I forgot where I planted
them!
23729 BuffaloLou
Night shift...again.......Disclosure......Shiner Bohemian Black Lager........Breakfast of Champions!
2012-02-25 14:38:17 @John O, Wim, and AFK - Thank you very much!
I just want to thank everyone, again, for all for your kind words and support. This is a great place filled with
wonderful people.
We didn't pop the port last night, instead we broke into the Louis XIII. Mighty fine! Now, let's all drink some
wine!
There goes that crazy Texan again, writing up-side-down.
23733 John O'
2012-02-25 18:53:58
23734 McMalbec
23735 vinmoet
2012-02-25 19:08:14
2012-02-25 19:57:13
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2012-02-25 20:07:38
2012-02-26 13:17:43
2012-02-26 15:07:22
2012-02-26 15:17:33
2012-02-26 16:23:29
McMalbec
vinmoet
KenI
Hinrgman
BrunelloBob
Did anyone ever notice that there is a very, very, tiny smile face in the bottom left corner of the page? (black on
the gray)
Wine Library free ship until midnight tonight on 12 or more.
Code: FREEFEB
Chateau Tour de Lagarde 2009 Bordeaux deal up on WTSO. Thoughts?
McMalbec: Don't know anything about it. Know for sure that you can spend a bit more and get much better
QPR, and suspect you can spend less and do better too. I'd hold off.
@vinmoet: Grand merci!
Tap Tap Tap. Anyone out there? Its mighty quiet in them thar hills...
04 GEM Toro on WTSO for $40 FS on 3 bottles. I remember this being a hit from the old cindy days.
I'm having a hard time not going in on3.
TonyO doesn't post here anymore because it's Spring Training....
And he's Afraid....
He's Very Afraid....
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2012-02-26 19:34:58
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=686723" rel="nofollow">2006 Robert Mueller
Zinfandel Old Vine</a> - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (2/26/2012)
C: Dark Ruby
N: tobacco, sour cherry, anise
P: Just like the nose, tobacco, sour cherry, anise, plus burnt toast, blackberry
F: just shy of 60 seconds
Not a heavyweight wine, nor is it thin, but it fills the mouth with flavor none-the-less. Enjoyable with food or
without. (89 points)
23751 BuffaloLou
23754 BuffaloLou
2012-02-26 20:03:00 I can't speak for the wine, but TSO has Amicus (By X-Winery) Truchard Vineyard Carneros, Napa Valley Syrah
Reserve 2009 for $15. I've had Syrah's made by Truchard from their Carneros Vineyard, and they're excellent.
Again, I can't speak for the wine.
2012-02-26 20:59:17 Takis Fuego Hot Chili Pepper & Lime Flavored Rolled Corn Tortilla Minis - WOW! Tried these at my Aunt and
Uncle's earlier this week. Amazing snack food. I love hot & spicy, and this are a$$ kickin' good! Lime is very
prevalent. Wish they were available locally; Thank goodness for the Internet!
23755 mr21cbs
2012-02-26 21:35:07 Vinmoet, it was a bit lonely around here. But we are back now. Another swim meet with the boys this morning.
4am wake up, breakfast, and driving for 1.5 hours for a 6:45am warm up. The organizers have no compassion for
the parents, but the facility was great, and my boys qualified in one more event each (Greg in 100Back and Jacob
in 400IM), so all is good.
Watching the Oscars, upgrading my wife's cell phone and finishing a bottle of 2009 Bell Canyon Cellars Estate
that I picked up at WTSO during their Cheapskate Wednesday. Very nice and drinks better than expected.
23756 BrunelloBob
2012-02-26 21:53:39 CBS: I dropped 88 points on the Bell Canyon almost a year ago. Agree, better than expected:
23757 Julius
23758 Hinrgman
23759 hinrgman
3/25/2011 rated 88 points: Better through the aeroator
Nice dark color, good nose.
Tannin a little out of balance, but there's some nice subtle fruit here. Smooth. Fair QPR
BTW: Who in their right mind grows syrah on Howell Mountain...? ....? (5194 views)
2012-02-27 09:46:39 @KenI - That was the '05 on Cindy.
2012-02-27 11:13:42 @Julius - how does the '04 compare to the '05 GEM?
2012-02-27 11:17:00 @Julius - how does the '04 compare to the '05 GEM?
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2012-02-27 13:36:32 My Bell Canyon was a 2007: Syrah, Cab Sauv, and Merlot.
Different wine than the QPR of the day, but suggests some consistency with the producer.
2012-02-27 14:43:28 Our thoughts and prayers go out to the students and their families affected by the shootings in Chardon, Ohio
this morning. Believe our own @David T lives out that way...
2012-02-27 15:48:02 @BuffLou
I see it's dated Friday. That sounds like the free ship on a case code that they did on saturday, from like noon to
midnight.
I got an e-mail on it and picked up a case of value whites for the upcoming warm weather.
2012-02-27 15:54:06 BLou - I'm surprised it has taken so long for someone to post that link on here. I haven't been visiting any of the
forums lately, so I would have missed it altogether if not for WIM. If there are any "locals" on here, I'd be curious
to know what your offer was. It was good timing on GV's part, because frankly I have not oredered much from
WL or Cindy recently. TSO has been getting much more of my business. This offer will certainly drive me back to
WL a little more often.
2012-02-27 16:04:55 having read al the posts in the forum it sounds like something different.
2012-02-27 16:15:26 @SCKen - I've been tied up all weekend and just saw it myself.
2012-02-27 16:42:08 @BuffaloLou apparently "please don't pass this link on" is to tough for you to understand?
2012-02-27 16:52:17 @luddite Yes, Chardon is a mere 15 miles due south of me. A tragedy for sure.
2012-02-27 18:19:49 @David T - One never expects these terrible events to occur near home. Thankfully this didn't affect anyone in
your family. Prayers for those who were affected.
That said, I thought I read that this boy that allegedly did the shooting is a victim of bullying. If so, this makes the
situation even worse as it could have been prevented.
2012-02-27 18:28:47 @BD: Did you received this one?:
http://www.livingsocial.com/gourmet/271858-six-course-menu-with-wine-pairings?msdc_id=15-san-francisco
23776 John O'
23780 mr21cbs
2012-02-27 19:51:25 For the record: I cannot stand incivility.
2012-02-28 09:34:28 In the future, please refrain from posting links to the public pages if so demanded by the vendors. In my opinion,
if they truly wanted to keep it a secret, they would NOT post in a public forum to begin with. However, if they
elected to use the facade of secrecy, so be it. We have plenty of means to privately communicate with each
other and avoid unnecessary conflicts. I will reach out to Winelibrary to apologize for my omission as the
moderator. Cheers!
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2012-02-28 10:35:00 @hinrgman - Didn't taste the '04, but the critics seem to indicate that it didn't quite measure up to the '05
(except for WS, which showed the biggest spread, 84 vs 95). My TN on the '05, as seen on the original Cindy
page: "Had it with dinner in Barcelona this past week. Beautiful aromas of black fruit, anise, toast and lavender.
On the palate, it's like biting into a blackberry/blueberry pie. Rich, mouth-coating black fruit with a touch of
cinnamon, nutmeg, anise, and mocha. Tannins are ripe and the finish is long. A great wine now and has what it
takes to go another decade (maybe more)."
2012-02-28 10:55:29 wait........Who is the poster @ben....I don't recall him as a previous poster here? There is an 8 page thread on the
forums, clearly its not a secret as several posters have posted what the "deal" was.
2012-02-28 11:05:42 @mr21cbs It has nothing to do with secrecy. It is respecting a rather simple request, "please don't pass this link
on". I don't see why you think you or another poster on this thread get to decide whether or not that request is
a "facade" or not.
2012-02-28 11:06:07 johnr, who the poster was is no longer important. I did not feel it was a secret as even Julius stated on page 4:
What I don't quite understand is Gary asking to keep a lid on it, yet posting it in a forum that has no privacy.
You don't need to be a forum "member" to see it. In the past, forum deals were posted in a forum that could
only be seen by someone that was logged on.
Moreover, many inmates are still WineLibrary forum members and would qualify for the offer anyway, so the
post was nothing but to draw the attention to one of hundreds threads on the WL forum. However, some took
offense to the posted link, felt it was against GV's request, so I removed it and posted an apology on the page 8
of the forum. Case is closed, unless it is a case of something very tasty!
2012-02-28 11:12:11 @Cbs....This is the mickey mouse BS that continues to draw division and not unity. We all spend money with WL
and many of us check out to Forums, albeit to see what the Forumites are writing about us. You don't think that
the Forumites got in on our free shipping code last year? Did WL formally complain? If they didn't its fair game.
Please don't become like the Ebob board.
'
'@Ben...I don't recall you ever posting here?
2012-02-28 11:16:36 @MRCBS.....and now I am madder when you see how the "poster" was. He is a notorious and brings nothing to
either forum besides trouble.
2012-02-28 11:27:46 johnr, I agree with you about the Mickey Mouse BS, meant no disrespect to Ben, who is very welcome to the
Hills, and will not comment on value, quality, and frequency of posts by the forum members. We all share the
love of wine, different perspectives, and/or bring entertainment to the subjects. I am a firm believer that we all
can get along. There is too much $#!^ going on in the world and this place should remain an asylum as originally
intended. I am a forum member here, on WL, Berserkers, etc. and suggesting that we should respect each other,
exercise restrain (not applies to drinking) and humility.
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2012-02-28 11:34:24 I only meant to, as CBS stated, bring attention to the link as I know not everyone here visits the forums regularly,
but I know you do visit them. I truly didn't intend for "it" to hit the fan.
Edit: had to remove that last word. I wasn't thinking clearly and (temporarily) violated a rule...
2012-02-28 11:50:01 @Bufflou...I wasn't refering to you. I was refering to the creator of the faux rage. He is notorious for creating
problems here and aboard.
2012-02-28 12:26:57 2009 Lillian Ladouys - Any of you Bordeaux-heads care to comment? Seems like it is getting really good press for
a Right bank that retails right around $20. Anyone have any thoughts?
2012-02-28 12:27:47 Thx JR.
To get back on topic: I popped one of these last night: https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=247119
I liked it. The Mrs. loved it! Better deals to be had for the fare ($31 on CW) but not complaining as it was tasty.
Very viscous, but not to the point of being 'jammy'. Beautiful floral-y nose. Next time I will decant longer.
23795 vinmoet
2012-02-28 13:15:53 Phredd: I know that in the past I posted both here and at Cindy about the 2009 Lillian Ladouys. I'm too lazy to
find a link.
This is a Chateau that was created by a guy that made his money off of a chip on credit cards. He named the
place after his wife and put serious bucks into upgrading the equipment and consultants. As a result, I believe
that they make a wine that has risen above its terroir. Here is a video link of it in the early days (the mid 90's):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s5lmB3ABKw
This is generally an accessible early drinking wine meant for the short to medium haul. Its a value oriented wine
that garners good to great WS scores. At its price point it offers a very presentable correct modern
interpretation of Bordeaux. In a great vintage like '09 it presents a great value.
23796 Phredd
I have no plans to buy any but I think it is worth a try. Sample it, if you like it buy more. There should be no
shortage of it.
2012-02-28 14:02:10 Thanks, vinmoet. Maybe I'll give it a whirl. I have very little Bordeaux in my house, and what I do have isn't
ready. This seems like a good way to bridge the gap. I appreciate your insight, as always.
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2012-02-28 14:35:18 @vinmoet I'm going to a Bordeaux tasting in a few weeks and would like your thoughts/opinions on what's being
tried:
Chateau Le Prieure St. Laurent Bordeaux Rouge 2010
Chateau Michel de Vert Lussac St Emilion 2010
Chateau Hermitage Mazeyres Pomerol 2009
Chateau Monbousquet St. Emilion Grand Cru 2008
Chateau La Cardonne Medoc Cru Bourgeois 2005
Chateau Prieure Lichine Margaux 2006 (4th Growth)
Chateau Leoville-Poyferre St. Julien 2006 (2nd Growth)
TIA!
2012-02-28 14:46:47 Getting ready to load 50 cases of wine on a moving truck. Does anyone know if wine likes to travel standing up
or on its side (I know it doesn't like to travel, but it must).
2012-02-28 15:27:14 @Jovino - AFA the wine is concerned, I don't think it matters. What would matter is the bottle, i.e., for breakage.
I believe there is more strength in the design to be transported with the bottom, down.
BTW, good luck with the move!
23802 BrunelloBob
23803 BrunelloBob
23804 vinmoet
2012-02-28 15:43:36 Well handled @mr21cbs,
Thanks again for your good work.
2012-02-28 15:47:47 "faux rage" :lol:
useful diagnosis...
2012-02-28 19:13:32 Phredd: I think you're safe. The appellation is Sainte Estephe which is kind of a spotty area. There is nice
gravelly soil towards Pauillac but there are lots of pockets of clay through out which results in poor drainage. '09
is such a brilliant vintage that it overcomes most of these defects.
Keep a watch here, though. I've mentioned before that there are plenty of great QPR wines hitting the shores
now. Many under $20. They will not be long term keepers but be wonderful for that 5 to 15 year term. Just
don't expect complexity.
Blou: Am mystified as to the cold shoulder elsewhere. Its all good here though, so keep your chin up and ignore
the bad stuff.
cbs: Class act. Nicely played my friend.
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2012-02-28 19:32:21 I was mulling over what sub $20 '09 Bordeaux to watch for.
These all fall into that same drink young to medium term not particularly complex but great QPR category.
D'Aiguilhe Quere, Arnauton, Baleau (this is probably more in that sub $25 range), Dalem, Lanesson, Petrus Gaia
(no connection to Petrus), Saint Paul, Senjac (I still have a 1945 of this but the Chateau is under modern hands
now), Siaurac and Villars.
23807 RitchP
In this price range, all these guys should not disappoint. I like to say that they will correctly represent a modern
interpretation of Bordeaux with a great QPR but not a lot of complexity. I suspect we will be seeing these on the
various sites over the next half a year or so.
2012-02-28 20:32:30 I prefer the term "poutrage" myself.
Monsieur Vinmoet, do you have any '09 Bordeaux recommendations that are complex, meant to age, and yet
good QPR? I am suffering from a SIWBM at the moment due to lack of storage space, but in a few months I
should be able to open up enough room for a case or two.
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2012-02-28 21:04:05 RitchP: I posted these over at Cindy. Its a bit sloppy, I just cut and pasted. These are wines that are not
necessarily my favorites, but QPR that are actually available for purchase at good prices right now:
Sub $100
Appellation:
Chateau:
Pomerol: Gazin & La Feur de Gay
St. Julien: LaGrange, Brainaire-Ducru, Saint Pierre
Saint Emilion: La Gomerie, Canon-La-Gaffeliere,
Pauillac: Clerc Milon, Grand-Puy-Lacoste,
Margaux: Giscours & Rauzan Segla (although, RS looks like its higher now)
Sauternes: Guiraud & Suduiraut (sweet, white desert wines that last for a century+)
Graves: Smith Haut Lafitte
Sub $50
Saint Emilion: Grand Mayne, Monbousquet, Grand Corbin Despagne
Haut Medoc: Cantemerle
St. Estephe: Meyney
Pomerol: Rouget
Cape de Faugeres WA90-02 for about $15 modest life, not for the long haul
D'Aiguilhe WA 90-92 about $25 not for the long haul
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turn to America's Past Time perhaps over a beer (something not being served in a certain team's
clubhouse.............) stay thirsty my friends
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2012-02-28 22:07:41 @Vinny - re: "I’ve mentioned before that there are plenty of great QPR wines hitting the shores now." I am
looking forward to your rec's on some French QPRs. I openly admit my exposure to French wines is severely, and
sorely, lacking. Years ago I was a member of Wine Exchange's (www.winex.com) monthly "Club Red". Every now
and then they'd have a red from France (usually Bdx or Rhone) that was an excellent buy. I dropped the club
several years ago, so I'm looking forward to replacing some of those bottles that have long since been enjoyed
(but whose names escape me.)
While a bottle of '04 Ondarre Reserva Rioja decants, I'm presently enjoying a Southern Tier Brewing's 2X Stout
(http://southerntierbrewing.com/beers.html). A tasty stout with some sweetness on top of all that chocolatey
goodness.
BTW, the last bottle of the Ondarre Reserva was much, much, better than the first. I hope this one is just as good
as the second.
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23813 BuffaloLou
2012-02-28 22:18:14 Blou: I love the Ondarre Reserva. We've probably opened 3 or 4 to date. I'm glad I bought a case. Very
accessible, just the right amount of age, and an amazing QPR.
I emailed cbs a Bordeaux QPR that you won't be disappointed with. What I am hoping for is that these discount
sites will lock in on these crazy high scores and figure that they can move a lot of volume based on the scores so
that they will mark them down. There are a lot of wines in that category so I am hopeful we will have months of
QPR Bordeaux.
2012-02-28 22:49:40 @Vinny - Excellent!
I've lost track of how many "Leap Year" sales that have come across my inbox...
The Ondarre is rockin' tonight! :clap:
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2012-02-29 02:31:57 @ luddite... i did not see that LS meal and pairing deal. Likely the better half would hate all the seafood
portions anyway. Too bad.
@vinnymoe... what say you re Langoa barton in the sub 100 St Julien group? I like em a lot. But I ain't no
vinnymo...
And i think i still have a bottle of 1996 Chateau Fauxrage Bordeaux Inferiore somewhere....
From last FRI Napa trip... to be very brief... Elyse making great wine still... the 08 Hayne PS is OUTSTANDING.
Andersons Conn Valley was brilliant and nicely out of the way... the Right Bank 08 was unique to my taste buds,
finishing with a likeable semi sour cranberry like thing going on that was really nice actually. And the Eloge (left
bank blend) was great. If i remember Artisan Wine Depot has a nice combo pack on these for about 25 less
than what the winery is charging.
Then there was Corison, which frankly disappointed me. I loved their 01,
05 instantly on my last visit, and their dry gewurz... but this time none of it rang happy notes to me. The 07
Kronos was more like a true Bord this time in that i couldn't taste through all the youngness to tell whether I
would like it or not eventually. I hope to try it again later. Now, the bottle of 96 Kronos they opened for a good
customer (that i just happened to steal a sample of) was brilliant.
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23819 john o'
23820 mr21cbs
And a last suggestion, a winemaking "commune" of sorts, Silenus, was a fun place to start the day, use the picnic
tables, play a little bocce ball, and taste some good wine. i liked the Due Vigne label and their California grown
2012-02-29 07:49:35 @BuffLou
Thx for all your tips recently. WL still has the mayor reserva for $20. Great wine with some age on it. No brainer,
picked up 8 more for the cellar.
2012-02-29 07:55:38 WTSO has a 2008 Wine Spectator 94 point Super Tuscan for $20. Another no brainer, but you better hurry b4
people wake up.
2012-02-29 08:37:14 Vinmoet, wanted to bring to your attention that WiM posted a question for you on page <a
href="http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/discussion/comment-page-1306#comments"
rel="nofollow">1306</a>. Her post got stuck in the SPAM catcher but has been cleared. If you have the time to
address it, I am sure she will appreciate it. Thanks!
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2012-02-29 10:04:07 WinM:
cbs game me my marching orders. I'll do a drive-by review so when I'm wrong, my feelings won't be hurt when
you call me out. I'm thick skinned.
Chateau Le Prieure St. Laurent Bordeaux Rouge 2010 - Have not had this but can make an educated guess. This is
inexpensive vin ordinaire. The reason that you can even drink a 2010 right now is because this is a table wine
meant to drink now. I'd pair this with rustic food. This really is French truck stop wine (which is a compliment).
No really, it is.
Chateau Michel de Vert Lussac St Emilion 2010 - This is not St. Emilion. This is Lussac-Saint Emilion. In roughly
the same area but not in the same league. Another vin ordinaire. Exact same notes as above.
Chateau Hermitage Mazeyres Pomerol 2009 - This is a family owned Chateau in Pomerol. My favorite
appellation, one of my favorite vintages. I think that I remember where this is but I have not tasted it. Its 100%
merlot. Essentially this is an inexpensive unknown Pomerol from a great vintage. Could be OK. Have low
expectations and you may be surprised. This could possibly suffer from some funk which, if it does, should burn
off with decanting. The '09's are tannic but very fruit driven so you may be able to drink out of the bottle but I'd
decant at least an hour.
Chateau Monbousquet St. Emilion Grand Cru 2008. A baby. I have just been drinking their '95 in the past couple
of years. You should be drinking this in 2020. So, decant for a couple of hours. I like right bank 2008 and it was a
good vintage for Saint Emilion. This is a flashy modern interpretation of Saint Emillion and they were in the midst
of going biodynamic in this vintage. The bulk of Saint Emilion is up high on a plateau with Pomerol. There is a
lower part that is close to Castillion. Monbousquet is a beautiful Chateau in that lower part and it routinely
exceeds its terroir. Parker gives it 92 points and says:
23822 BrunelloBob
2012-02-29 10:09:41 T.O.: No need to worry about "Mitt". The yankees are gonna Lose no matter who's in the White House...
And the Red Sox banned beer, not whiskey ;)
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2012-02-29 10:18:19 Bdude: Sounds like the Langua might be surfin' wine:
Parker scored it 90-92 and said
"I found the 2009 Langoa Barton to be so painfully extracted, excruciatingly tannic, powerful, and backward that I
wrote it “should be forgotten for 15 years, and may have some charm in 30-40.” There is no doubting its level of
concentration and massiveness, but, wow, proprietor Anthony Barton has sure pushed the extraction, producing
a wine for our children’s children. (Tasted once.)"
23824 BuffaloLou
I'm worried about the 'tasted once' note. These wines change so much that I am happier with 'tasted three
times.' I have not had this yet. My guess is that Parker is mostly right. I am sure that if you score a deal on it,
you'll be happy. If you are just paying prevailing prices, then I think the other wines I listed are likely to be better
QPR.
2012-02-29 10:54:43 @BDude - Which '08 Hayne did you enjoy, the Turley or the Elyse?
2012-02-29 14:01:14 @mr21cbs thank you for getting my post out of purgatory... don't know why it thought it was spam, had been
trying to post that for a few days!
@Vinny- You are Da Man! I knew I could count on you, and your expertise in Bordeaux is what made me decide
to sign up for the event in the first place! I'm really looking forward to this now, and forwarded your notes to my
friend who is going with me. I'll be sure to report back after Mar 21!
23826 mr21cbs
23829 BuffaloLou
2012-02-29 14:30:24 WiM, you are welcome. I found a few copies tucked in the crapper. I usually don't read that stuff often, but end
of the month clean up protocol prompted me to do so. Glad it wasn't too late. Learning something from
Monsieur Vinmoet is always a treat.
2012-02-29 15:16:10 I wasn't sure what happened, as the posts vanished into thin air as soon as I hit "submit comment". I wonder if it
had something to do with what I was trying to copy and paste.
2012-02-29 15:17:42 I've got to say, the CW TBTC sale is killing me. I don't need anything, but I've been sitting and playing with putting
items in and taking them out of my cart all afternoon... What to do, what to do...
2012-02-29 15:43:02 The TBTC is nice as it allowed me to pick up a bottle or two here and there vs having to buy the min on each. A
case adds up quickly!
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2012-02-29 16:21:15 @ vinnymo... thanks. Interesting in that usually the Langoa isn't that powerful and extracted and tannic, very
very long lived and don't touch for a long time... usually Barton leaves that style for the Leoville Barton... and the
Langoa is made for earlier drinking, softer style etc. Will stay away from it this time and keep drinking the older
vintages i have.
@ Bufflou.... the Elyse! I won't give a stuck up place like Turley my money. Of course i accept gifts though.... ;-)
23832 vinmoet
23833 BuffaloLou
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2012-02-29 17:15:14 Bdude: I don't know whether you should stay away from it or not. He only tasted it once. My gut tells me that
there are some other wines that are probably better/safer QPRs. All I'm sayin' is that I wouldn't necessarily write
it off, just be wary.
2012-02-29 17:54:51 @BDude - I just looked up the Elyse. Day-um! I didn't realize how pricy that juice is! Did you get a good deal
somewhere?
2012-02-29 22:17:49 As a courtesy to the inmates, Mrs. V and I retried the QPR. Just as I remembered. Very, very serviceable quality
Bordeaux for relatively little money. The only knock is that its pretty modern. But, for a hot vintage, the ABV is
OK at 14%. High by my standards, but normal anymore for a hot vintage and practically beer level by CA
standards.
2012-02-29 23:40:32 Mrs. BLou has informed me that Davy Jones, former member of "The Monkeys" died today at age 66. Brings
back a lot of childhood memories. RIP.
2012-03-01 09:15:08
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1089593" rel="nofollow">2009 Kermit Lynch
Selections Côtes du Rhône Cypress</a> - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Côtes du Rhône (3/1/2012)
Color dark ruby, with purple edge. On initial pour very funky but then dark fruit, spices, vegetables take over.
Being very young, it is pretty tannic, which I happen to like. Over time the wines gets better, presenting
complexity of red fruit, pepper, celery. Good food wine. Nice effort for the price. (87 points)
23843 jpakma
23844 BrunelloBob
2012-03-01 12:14:18 Been away for a time but lurking in the background continuing my Monsieur Vinmoet Bordeaux education.... love
reading those posts. @WiM I wish I was in your neck of the woods because I've been wanting to do a Bordeaux
tasting primarily due to my inexperience in the region. All work and no play is making Joe a "dull boy." Add on
top of that a diet that has severely limited my wine consumption in Feb and this guy is in a bad mood. Haven't
had a glass of wine in over 2 weeks - yikes!! On the + side, I've been a good boy avoiding most of the Leap Year
sales.
2012-03-01 12:58:37 I went two weeks without wine once.
Thank goodness for gin...
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2012-03-01 14:05:50 Interesting case offer at <a
href="http://www.lastbottlewines.com/invite/c66ff7932baa68dddf1d4da27bf0f89cc6cb01a7"
rel="nofollow">LBW, $168 with 1 case free shipping</a>:
3 of N.V. Campos de Estrellas Cava Brut ($15 Retail)
3 of 2007 Moon Mountain Cabernet Sauvignon Spring Creek Mayacamas Mountains ($85 Retail)
3 of 2007 Auvigne Pouilly Fuisse Solutre ($35 Retail)
3 of 2007 Vindemio Cote de Ventoux Imagine ($20 Retail)
2012-03-01 22:14:59 Hmm, where is everybody? Are you drinking, buying or reading about anything tonight?
2012-03-01 22:30:28 To answer cbs's question, I'm drinking. Stopped by the LWS and saw a couple of very inexpensive petite sirahs.
Had to pick them up to try. Tonight: Vicious 2008 PS. This is dirt cheap. $7.99. It's fruit. All fruit and nothing
but the fruit. Can't imagine it saw any oak for the price, and it doesn't taste like it either. But hey, what do you
expect for eight bucks? I won't be re-buying.
2012-03-01 22:38:25 Thanks, Lou. I spent my evening by the pool watching my kids practice, finishing my yesterday's bottle of 2009
Kermit Lynch Selections Côtes du Rhône Cypress, which drinks much better than yesterday. I am not allowed to
the LWS anymore as I have way too much wine. Tomorrow evening we are going to dinner at Panini's Old City,
where we had a Philly mini-off line dinner last year. Will be bringing a few Italian bottles... Good night all!
2012-03-01 22:44:17 Wine Magnet, if you are lurking, I need advice! I want to get ready for a triathlon this summer, starting in June to
be exact. Is it reasonable or totally crazy to be ready for a 1/4-1/2 mile swim? I can do bike and run, but swim is
scarring me to death. Even if it's not too competitive, what should my regimen be? I can swim 2-3 times a week.
Thanks in advance.
2012-03-01 22:58:19 @cbs - I can only assume an indoor pool, so do you have one at home or are you fortunate enough to enjoy an
adult beverage where they swim?
2012-03-01 23:04:20 @BDude - I found an '06 Elyse PS (Rutherford) at my LWS today. Not the Hayne vineyard, but beggars can't be
choosers. I see our esteemed BB had tried this bottling back in Nov '11. When I get a quite night I'll pop it and
report back.
2012-03-01 23:13:40 @cbs Drinking and reading. Popped an 06 Stefania Syrah Eaglepoint Ranch just to confirm that I want to pass on
their most recent mailer. As much as I love the winery on paper, for my palate I've found there to be better for
the price, though I know many, many will disagree. Also always reading... here, the WLTV forum, Berserkers,
Twitter, the book of Face, articles linked to on all of the above... each night I have a stack of various
books/magazines I swear I'm going to get to and never do just because there's so damn much interesting stuff
online!
2012-03-01 23:59:08 @vinny - do you have stock in paper bag manufacturers? (cross-forum reference) Seriously, that's why they
make splits... ;)
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2012-03-02 07:26:59 Happy Birthday to our very own Nanook of the North :lol: Celebrate this major milestone in style with family and
friends!
2012-03-02 07:39:24 Looks like a great buy on WTSO - Tenuta Sette Ponti Crognolo Toscana IGT Super Tuscan Rosso 2009 $22.99 FS4
2012-03-02 07:40:30 @mr21cbs: If you bike and run the distances in the triathlon (at a hard enough clip to be winded), you probably
have the aerobic conditioning to tackle swimming. I don't know what scares you about swimming, where you
swim, if a coach is available, etc., but I would recommend buying or checking out of the library, The Science of
Swimming by James Councilman, PhD, "the father of competitive swimming", or the New Science of Swimming
by Councilman and his son, Brian. If nothing else, you can learn how to be more efficient in the water and where
the power in your stroke is best applied.
Most beginning/inexperienced swimmers try to hold their heads up/forward to breathe, which makes their legs
sink and quickly tires their shoulders/neck muscles and contributes hugely to drag, the biggest enemy of
speed/efficiency. If your stroke is smooth and you are stroking properly with both arms, a video of you
swimming will show your legs following along in a straight line. If your legs swing side-to-side, you are creating
drag because one arm is pushing against the water at a different angle. Another huge drag issue for
inexperienced swimmers is that they kick from the knees (all these points apply to freestyle). Kicking is much
easier and efficient from the hips.
Learn to breathe from both sides once you get a smooth stroke/kick combo. That will come in handy in rough
water. Alternating breathing sides with every other stroke works well for many people.
23863 john o'
When I decided I wanted to swim for fitness at age 31, I was just a guy who could manage to stay afloat with
poor technique and I would get exhausted quickly, but when I got the first book above, I realized how inefficient I
was. Within a year, I joined a local Masters Swim Club and began to train/swim with experienced swimmers. By
the time I was 39, I had been in numerous FL Master's meets and finished 8th in the 200 breast (in the 35-39 age
bracket) at the short course Nationals at Mission Viejo, CA, the best I ever did in a National meet because the
next January, I tore up my knee skiing and my breaststroking days ended just as I was about to be amongst the
2012-03-02 07:56:48 @hingrman
FWIT - Wine Spectator has rated every vintage of this wine 90 or higher going back what seems like forever.
They rated this an 89.
That said, the comments were good and indicated an early drinker.
I'm only pasing because I've been completely out of control lately.
Just as an aside, it seems like the best WTSO offerrings are the first of the day (midnight EST). That works for me
as I'm an early riser in the Eastern time zone.
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2012-03-02 08:28:55 For inmates on the JJ Buckley PCP list interested in the '09 Tenuta Sette Ponti Crognolo, you can do better than
WTSO...
2012-03-02 08:32:02 Good Morning Good Morning Good Morning .....nothing to do to save his life calls his wife in
Happy... Merry...Congrats... Get Well.... Hold Fast To That Which Is Good
^
I have been delinquent in keeping up as I no longer dream in 3-D
^
No great tales to share
Hope to see you at offlines
Raise glass to you all
2012-03-02 08:35:05 @BuffaloLou, no I was watching them and reading at their pool (local high school, indoor, 25yard, competition
pool). THEN I was eating and drinking. When they practice I don't need adult beverages, occasionally I need to
look so they stop fulling around after drill, or get too social with their swimming girlfriends. At or after
competition, wine doesn't do it and hard liquor is necessary ;) Well, not really. They have been doing this long
enough so no false starts, DQs, or missed events. Getting out-touched at the finish or giving up chasing
somebody still needs work.
2012-03-02 08:48:09 I went for the Tenuta Sette Ponti Crognolo Toscana IGT Super Tuscan Rosso 2009, my JJ Buckley PCP does not list
it (perhaps I am getting it from a different rep), plus with shipping and burden to my friends in NJ (NaH that has
been MIA here), since JJ B doesn't ship to PA will be expensive. Our LWS have this wine for $36.99.
23868 mr21cbs
2012-03-02 08:55:31 Wine Magnet, thank you for your detailed post. I am not worried about my cardio at all (not just yet). I am 41,
5'10", 145lbs, and can bike/run for miles. My heart red line is 200, and I can sustain it for 2-4 minutes. Blood
pressure and pulse at rest are under control as well. I think my overall endurance and pain tolerance are fine too.
For some unknown reason, I am concerned about physical strength to sustain a 15-30 minute swim for a sprint
triathlon. Perhaps I just need to do it once or twice to get over my fear. Good points about breathing, I can do
much better with a snorkel, so perhaps I need to work on my breathing and streamline technique, especially for
the open water swim.
Anyway, my mid-life crisis is in full bloom, so it is "time to try a tri". I will keep you posted. Thanks again.
23869 luddite
2012-03-02 08:55:55 Inspired by @Brooks:
23870 NY Pete
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfdVvjdSfTw
2012-03-02 10:13:45 Luddite, did you get FS on that Crognolo offer from JJ Buck?
2012-03-02 10:21:16 @ludds Check your email...
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2012-03-02 10:29:21 blou: a wine bag. My preference is a soft brief case, understated and not noticed.
2012-03-02 11:06:08 @luddite & Phredd (cross forum reference) - TY! Spending the day with my wife and son (fortunately he
has a half day of school today!)
@cbs - Ah, I see! Still, a glass by poolside is always nice! ;)
23875 NaH
23877 hinrgman
23878 BaroloDude
@vinny - Oh what pains we go through for a good glass of vino...
2012-03-02 12:51:30 HEY!! I lurk here and occasionally put my $0.02 in.
I'm here MR21CBS, just say my name. Lol
2012-03-02 13:19:19 Can I put in my 2¢ ?
2012-03-02 13:27:59 @ BLOU... the Elyse Hayne PS is one extravagance that i am allowed, to the tune of a bottle a year max. I have
only ever bought it at the winery, so i am sadly paying full price. I have not had the other PS, so i look forward to
your review of it. I have been told that "once you go Hayne, you won't want the other one"... ;-) I think i am
opening an older bottle this weekend when some Ribs are being bbq'd... yum.
@ TonyO... i must come clean and admit i missed a Michael Schenker show right down the street from my house
the other week... i was sooooo busy with work i lost track of the day and.... well if i keep typing i will start to cry.
On the other hand, Maiden just announced a show in early August here... maybe i can squeeze that in. You
see the Satchurated 3D Joe Satriani movie that is out now? Maybe next TH i can get up to SF to see it.
Had a glass of Stags Leap Winery Merlot 08 or 09 at a company function this week, pretty boring frankly. I was
disappointed... their PS is sooo good.
23879 David T
23880 mr21cbs
23881 BuffaloLou
23882 vinmoet
2012-03-02 13:41:19 @BuffalouLou HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Pop something nice tonight (not that this is the group that needs to be told to
do that lol)
2012-03-02 14:24:26 @BuffaloLou Happy Birthday! Wish many more...
2012-03-02 14:25:31 @David T - TY!
2012-03-02 14:48:51 HAPPY BIRTHDAY B-LOU!!!
23883 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV1raYctgGo
2012-03-02 15:07:54 Thanks Vinny! Great vid! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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2012-03-02 15:46:04 Happy Birthday to @BuffaloLou! @winemagnet - Doc Counsilman is a legend in the State of Indiana - one of the
greatest coaches/swimming instructors ever. Finally opened a bottle of wine today and decided to go with
something out of the ordinary - 2006 Jean Bourdy Cotes du Jura - just popped and on the initial taste this is going
to require a fair amount of time in the decanter to open. Floral aromas similar to a young barolo on the initial
sniff very interesting.
2012-03-02 16:24:46 Anyone see this ratings of Parker for 2009 bordeaux
http://www.wineyields.com/index.php/features1/211-parker-delivers-record-number-of-100-points-for-2009bordeaux
2012-03-02 17:01:06 Since JJ Buckley offers 6 months storage for free, I never ask them to ship less than full cases. My price per bottle
for FedEx 3-day has recently increased from $2.65 to $3.06 a bottle. As stated by @B², they don't offer FS. Best I
ever got was a $10 shipping credit...
2012-03-02 17:59:17 @luddite They did have a link floating around in December for $1 shipping on any order. I definitely took
advantage. Whether or not it will ever be repeated I have no idea.
2012-03-02 19:24:30 I've mentioned how we do steak frites at home timing the steak so that someone can pick up fries from
McDonalds (a couple of miles away) in time for when the steaks are ready to be plated. Well, a criticism of our
plan is that frequently, for our tastes, the fries are underdone. Well, I talked to the manager asking if they will
custom cook. He said sure. Better than that, he gave me the phone number so we can call ahead, he can extra
cook, and we can pick up in order to time with our steaks. Gotta love it. He may not know it, but he may be the
only MickeyD manager to get a bottle of Bordeaux from a customer.
Mrs. V and I are doing a fundraiser dinner for a local charity tonight so our traditional family (aka steak night) is
postponed to tomorrow night. Each kid has a friend of their choice over for a sleepover and to join in on a steak
frites dinner. They purposefully picked kids that were world travelers who would get the food since they want a
fois gras terrine and a serious french cheese plate on either side of the steak frites. I get a chuckle out of
MickeyD fries eaten in the company of the various french foods that the kids want. But it works.
Well, off to the fundraiser. No vino for old Vin tonight since Mrs. V is volunteer Chef and I am volunteer wait
staff (although there are some hitters there that will want this waiter to do some tastes so I'll have to oblige).
Have a great evening Inmates!
Blou...even though its your birthday, there is a limit on the number of birthday spankings Mrs. Blou has to give
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2012-03-02 19:43:40 First experience with the Jean Bourdy Cotes du Jura, this is really unique juice. Very aromatic florals, red fruits,
smokey-earthiness, tobacco and leather there too. The initial attack on the palate is tart red fruits, followed by
similar complexities that were present in the nose. However, the transition to the mid palate and finish are
somewhat abrupt now and dominated by an almost extreme level of acidity and tannins. You can tell that this
wine is well made and has the ability to last for decades. The initial finish is somewhat tannic, but that quickly
subsides to a core of tart red fruit and earthy minerality that is extremely lengthy. Not sure that this wine would
be a crowd pleaser (or a wife pleaser in my case), but it's a very enjoyable Pinot Noir tasting experience. I picked
this up through Garagiste for $19, but it looks like you can find it at a couple stores on wine-searcher for around
$24-$28. I would say is something everyone should try at least once. I won't touch my other bottles for many
years to come. @BLou, there's not a hint of that iodine taste you reference in Cali pinot's, this is old world all the
way.
23890 BuffaloLou
2012-03-02 21:21:36 Popped an '88 Caymus Cab Sauv Special Selection tonight. Past it's prime. Should have popped this baby about 5
years ago. Still, not bad, but certainly not what it was. :(
23891 TonyO
@jpakma - I hope that holds with all burg. We'll be doing a tasting in about a month. We'll see...
2012-03-02 22:33:10 @BLou: happy BDay ! You are among many I know taht share this day !
@Vin: Dude, you need to get a good commercial deep fryer (restaurant supply stores have them around $200);
Idaho Russet Potatoes fried in the "double fry" method (blanch them at 320 degrees, 5-6 minutes,
remove...........turn temp to 375 and refry for 3-4 minutes while steaks are resting)......don't get me wrong, fresh
fried and properly salted Pommes Frites at McD's are great.........BUT.....after a few glasses of wine, the last thing
I want to do is drive two towns away for frites ...(trivia: Vermont is the ONLY state in which the Capital
(Montpelier) does NOT have a McDonald's.......finish those steaks with some jasper Hill Farm Bayley Hazen Blue
Cheese (incredible) and you will never look back (although I have a feeling the Steak Frites served at your home is
pretty &%&(& spectacular !)
23892 BrunelloBob
2012-03-02 22:41:50 Vermont is also the ONLY state in which the Capital (Montpelier) does NOT have Indoor Plumbing! :lol:
(I kill Me!)
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2012-03-02 22:44:11 @BaroloDude; a friend of mine in Ca is going to that Maiden show (got tix today)............sux you missed the great
Michael S......here is a taste:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrn0Px4-Lok&feature=related
2012-03-02 22:46:16 and in BTown, the drunken Irish (I can say that as I have an apostrophe in me name don't ya know), pi$$ in the
streets so it really isn't any different !
2012-03-02 22:50:57 @Irish Tony: The Irish piss in the streets EVERYWHERE,
(We're fiercely proud of that, at least my Irish Half is,,,)
2012-03-03 01:04:00 Wow! appearances by Brooks and TonyO.........Are we getting the band back together?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrxSM_Gxtqw
2012-03-03 07:40:16 Speaking of getting the band back together, happy birthday to our seldom seen public defender from
Philadelphia. You are missed...
2012-03-03 09:47:21 Let's hope that Gregg "the pig" Williams is banned from footbal for his lead role in the bounty programs will in
New Orleans and Washington..........they guy is a loser and I hope someone punches his lights out......Good
Morning Everyone !
2012-03-03 11:53:24 @TonyO According to the authority on the subject, David Letterman, for quite some time my alma mater was the
college farthest from a McDonalds anywhere in the country... the nearest was something like 15 miles away.
Unfortunately that all changed in 2008 & it's now one of the closest.
@flyerfan Happy bday!
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2012-03-03 13:08:55 Phillies vs. Spankees, cold beer, pistachios. Luddite stadium is open for baseball. GO PHILLIES!!
2012-03-03 14:18:30 I miss Varitek, that is all.
(I'm not going to say anything bad about the spankees ;) )
2012-03-03 14:34:57 two catchers retired this year, one is a future HOF member, the other is Varitek..................must have been the
"no beer" policy that tipped the scales !
2012-03-03 15:17:52 Blou: Noticed you dodged the spanking reference...hmmm did that hit closer to home than we would have
though me wonders? I hate the smell of old oil...don't want a fryer in the house yet would love to have one. Its
something might do every couple of months. Mrs. V makes the frites run so it does not affect my "tasting" whilst
I cook the meat. Would prefer a thicker fry but McDoo does do great fries. In France the nick name for
McDonalds is "Macdoo."
I tasted a rhone wine that is a killer QPR and am going to send it to cbs shortly. Watch for it. Was really, really
impressed by this one.
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2012-03-03 15:36:18 QPR TEASER:
Just emailed cbs a phenominal QPR. Can you guess what it is?
94 Points Robert Parker:
"...one of my all-time favorite producers in France, is a phenomenal bargain. This wine is absolutely stunning, and
the best one they have made to date, and is a brilliant showcase for what looks to be another great vintage
in.....A blend of 70% Grenache and 30% Syrah, with 65% aged in tank and the rest in old barrels and foudres, it is
bottled unfined and unfiltered for the American market. It’s just terrific, and the good news is that there are
7,000 cases, which is a rarity in this business – finding something spectacular in quality, low in price, with
excellent availability. Its stunning dense bluish/purple color offers up notes of sweet blueberries, black cherry
liqueur, licorice, incense, and a hint of hot rocks (almost gravelly, in the....sense), but the wine hits the palate
with amazing texture, succulence, fabulous fruit intensity, vivid purity and a vigorous, long, fresh finish that goes
on past 30 seconds. Amazing for a $,,,,,wine....."
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All I can say is this time Parker and I have similar notes and you won't believe the price on this stuff...I bought a
bottle, tasted in the store and bought one of their three cases on the spot.
2012-03-03 17:02:57 @vinmoet I think I will let the inmates a chance to guess your proposed QPR... I will post it tomorrow as today is
a steak dinner with my carnivorous kids.
2012-03-03 18:19:16 Just "Google" the quote:
2010 Château Pesquié "Terrasses" Côtes du Ventoux
94 points Robert Parker: "The 2010 from Pesquie Terrasses, one of my all-time favorite producers in France, is a
phenomenal bargain. This wine is absolutely stunning, and the best one they have made to date, and is a brilliant
showcase for what looks to be another great vintage in the southern Rhone. A blend of 70% Grenache and 30%
Syrah, with 65% aged in tank and the rest in old barrels and foudres, it is bottled unfined and unfiltered for the
American market. It’s just terrific, and the good news is that there are 7,000 cases, which is a rarity in this
business – finding something spectacular in quality, low in price, with excellent availability. Its stunning dense
bluish/purple color offers up notes of sweet blueberries, black cherry liqueur, licorice, incense, and a hint of hot
rocks (almost gravelly, in the Bordeaux sense), but the wine hits the palate with amazing texture, succulence,
fabulous fruit intensity, vivid purity and a vigorous, long, fresh finish that goes on past 30 seconds. Drink it over
the next 3-4 years." (10/11) 14% abv.
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2012-03-03 18:22:40 Is "googling" the same as "guessing" :lol: :lol:
23916 AdamEmpire
Great wine BTW, even if it's only served in the yankees club house...
2012-03-03 19:26:35 That Pesquie is fantastic wine, I sold out the same weekend it arrived in stock. They have a killer rose as well.
23917 BrunelloBob
23918 luddite
2012-03-03 19:42:56 @Adam: Any shot at a bit deeper discount on that Hall Cab? ;)
2012-03-03 20:18:45 @Brooks: The '03 Ilona that you recently rated 91 on CT is on WTSO Platinum as I type:
2012-03-04 02:58:42 The Kommander kommends agent Adam for some great shake ups in the world of wine. The Pesquie offering
alone was cause for the PX to re-evaluate its buying strategy. The entire kommand awaits your every posting...
job well done.
It should always be apparent that while the Kommander doesn't always komment, your Kommander is always
here for his troops.
Kaos out
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2012-03-04 09:24:12 Back in action! Was gone all day Sat between an all day long Scout training (lost power twice due to the hight
winds. Made for an interesting day... ) and a Bandits (loss... :( ) game at night.
@TO - TY! The great Dr (Seuss) also shares the day! (As well as several other friends of mine.)
Gregg Williams gives sports a black eye. He should be banished.
@Vinny - True, I did not comment, but I did read it, as well I read it to Mrs BLou. She had a good laugh.
@Vinny part II - Agree on the smell of oil and frying, but one can't put a price on homemade Southern fried
chicken!
Vinny's upcoming QPR looks like it could be an terrific daily drinker. Me loves Southern Rhone and I like the 'lite'
oak treatment.
Speaking of fried chicken, I took my Scout out for dinner before the Bandits game last night. He enjoyed a
bounty of Buffalo Wings. The Mrs and I usually do not allow such indulgences as they are artery cloggers, but
they are sooooo good! And no smell at home to boot! If you've never had Buffalo Wings in Buffalo, you owe it
to yourself to try some if you're ever in the area. (I've never had them out of town when they were anything like
here. And this goes for many other regional dishes from all over... (Someday I hope to have a Guinness in
Ireland!))
Hall Estate Winery... They bought the old Edgewood Estate Winery - I used to buy their Petite Sirah by the case.
Killer QPR in the day. They are missed!
@kommander - nice to have you make an appearance!
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2012-03-04 09:36:27 On the subject of Vinmoet
We had steak and frites last night. Got the idea from you. Made a bordelaise sauce to accompany. A purist
would probably say I butchered it, but the OSullFam household liked it.
Had a 2006 Duplessy to go with it. A $10 deal from Last Bottle. Fortunately I had read the CT notes (thank you
Eric Levine) and knew to give it 3 hours in the decanter. It was still pretty tannic, but not bad at all, say 87+.
Finally, having consumed said Duplessy and still basking in the 30-1 Syracuse Orange season, I finally bit on a
2007 Mondavi Reserve cab offer, from the Wine Exchange. Much like 2009 Bordeaux, I don't mind spending a bit
to get a 2007 Napa Cab that can be around for a long time.
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23927 vinmoet
2012-03-04 11:26:23 RIP Ronnie Montrose..................................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc
2012-03-04 11:39:45 Well Luddite and Adam, I'm not sayin' that you're wrong and I'm not sayin' that you're right, you will all just have
to wait to see the QPR when its posted and then you'll know if Mr. Google is worth his salt.
By the way, I used the QPR to make a wine reduction when I deglazed the fry pan after making our steaks last
night. Yum.
I also drank a 2006 Pomerol which I brought back from France. Its not available here. Remembering paying, say,
less than $30. Drinks like Clinet. Absolutely spectacular.
23929 David T
2012-03-04 12:39:43 After taking one for the team and volunteering to stay at work until 3am/working a total of 20 hours overtime in
two days... today with lunch I decided to be kind to myself for a change in anticipation of the Bedrock mailer to
be released Tuesday. Opened two of their wines:
09 Bedrock Sauvignon Blanc Kick Ranch
10 Bedrock Syrah Sonoma Coast
If you're not yet on their list, sign up now. Even waiting list members will likely get an allocation of a few of the
wines. The syrah one of the best qprs I've had so far this year. The SB is probably a bit over the hill but still one of
the most mineral-driven SBs I've had outside of France.
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2012-03-04 13:54:48 If you are looking to pick up some rose for the summer, this wine is delivering and is weighty enough to drink
now. This was really outstanding!
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1312529" rel="nofollow">2011 Arnot-Roberts
Touriga Nacional Luchsinger Vineyard</a> - USA, California, North Coast, Red Hills Lake County (3/4/2012)
Ever since I took delivery of this I've wanted to taste it, well Sunday early afternoon seemed like the right time to
pop this. Light salmon color with big nose of light florals, watermelon, strawberry, citrus served up over salty
mineral stone. The wine has a nice weight to it so that it can be enjoyed year round. I love the acidity and
minerality. I bought three on release $20, thinking I need to buy more now. Outstanding! (92 points)
23932 BuffaloLou
23933 jpakma
23935 David T
2012-03-04 14:09:04 @David T - IIRC, GV flipped over one of Bedrock's Zins a short while back.
2012-03-04 14:28:06 I will 2nd David T's rec of the Bedrock wines. Morgan is making some great wine at an outstanding value relative
to other wineries.
2012-03-04 17:05:05 @BLou The recent Bedrock GV scores I could find:
09 Kick Ranch Syrah 92 (DG Ep 31)
09 Stellwagen Zin 88 (WLTV 966)
09 Syrah Sonoma Coast 93 (DG website)
09 Lachryma Montis late harvest semillon 96+ (DG website)
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2012-03-04 19:13:38 Last night at a Central Jersey offline, the focus was 2000 Bordeaux.
Here's the line up:
#1 2000 Ch Cantenac Brown Margaux
#2 2000 Ch Pipeau St Emilion
#3 2005 Ch Lascombes Margaux
#4 2005 Ch Saint-Pierre St Julien
#5/6 2000 Ch Lynch Bages Pauillac
#7 2000 Ch de Sales Pomerol
#8 2000 Ch Calon-Segur St Estephe
#9 2000 La Chapelle de Calon St Estephe
#10 2000 Ch Franc-Maillet Pomerol
#11 2000 Amiral de Beychevelle St Julien
#12 2000 Ch Langoa Barton St Julien
#13 2000 Ch Pontet-Canet
Someone brought in 2005, which were really nice, tannic still.
The majority opened up beautifully after 3 hours. 4 were decanted at the restaurant. 2 were decanted at 11 that
morning!
23938 BuffaloLou
Guess the top 3
2012-03-04 19:48:25 @DT - Given your enthusiasm on the Bedrock, I'll have to pop one sooner than later. I know I have two different
bottlings, one of which is the '09 Sonoma Syrah: https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1031688 (I
assume it's the same one you had.)
Tonight with dinner (grilled pork tenderloin w/ "Northwoods seasoning" and fresh pineapple/jicama pico de gallo
(Mrs BLou did an awesome job with the pico!)): Cameron Hughes Lot 178 Los Carneros Syrah.
23939 BaroloDude
2012-03-04 20:11:22 TonyO beat me to it... Bye Ronnie. :-(
The Voyager is gone.
so here is another vid....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfPViQSU6dc&feature=related
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2012-03-04 20:15:24 OK NaH. The gauntlet is thrown. The better wines need another 5 plus years IMHO...for the best this was
infanticide for the lesser they are in a drinking window now.
The group's pick in order:
Pontet-Canet
Lascombes
Langua Barton
VM's picks for VM, in order:
23941 TonyO
23942 johnr
Lynch Bages
Pontet Canet
Calon Segur
2012-03-04 20:47:21 @BaroloDude: always wondered what would have happened if Montrose stayed together with the
lineup.............it didn't last long but it was great while it lasted (TWSS.....). Sammy H has a heck of a
career...................
2012-03-04 21:36:07 There is a 01 Rieussac 750ml on winecommune for $125.00. Lowest searcher is $180.00. Hell of a deal.
Love JohnR
I am not the seller
23944 NaH
2012-03-05 05:29:16 @Vinny
Hahahaha. I knew you would think infanticide!! The group picked Lynch Bages, Pontet-Canet and Lascombes. Did
you see the CT forums Central Jersey picks?
My personal top 3 were Lynch Bages, Lascombes and Langoa Barton. The Pontet Canet started to open up at the
end of the night...people were scrambling to retaste while the wait staff were pushing us out the door.
The remaining Calon Segur (which I brought, also brought the de Sales- I love bringing $25 Bordeaux to a high
end tasting and everyone loves it) opened up last night.
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2012-03-05 09:16:49 NaH: Looks like I came close to calling it. I did not see any of the forums. No cheating here. I signed up for CT
many many moons ago but I've never used it other than to check "ratings" and I can't remember the last time
that I did that.
I am pretty familiar with most of the wines so my guess was based on what I thought would show well. I would
have figured that the Lynch would not being showing as much fruit so I did not put it in the top three which is
why I guessed the Langoa over it. The Pontet and Lascombes were easy because they are so flamboyant and
would stand out. My own list are the wines that I would have picked for me...I believe that they are head and
shoulders above the others and will show that in 5 to 10 years. I really like the Calon (in 10 years).
A wine that is just entering its drinking window now is the Franc-Maillet Pomerol. This is a more traditional
Pomerol and is not fruit forward. I would not have expected it to be a crowd favorite but it is an elegant,
delicious wine.
Am jealous. Sounds like to you had a good time.
23947 vinmoet
2012-03-05 11:03:03 En garde! My 8 year old son is in fencing along with my 14yo daughter. They have their first tournament on
Saturday. I have caught the bug myself. Just ordered my gear and will start lessons in the next couple of weeks.
My son sees us fencing each other all over the neighborhood. I am immature enough that I realize that he is
right. Watch out neighborhood. Just wish I had been taking lessons a few years ahead of him just to not give him
any bad habits when we duel.
Any inmates fencers? I've chosen the foil. Our local club is basically foil. My kids' coach competes epee but
teaches them foil. I think the theory is that since foil is the most disciplined, its easier to transition from it to
epee rather than visa versa. Epee is much more of a swashbuckler style where foil seems more structured, more
blue blood. Well, its nothing but red blood for my opponents as I take them all down. Arrrgggg.
23950 BrunelloBob
23951 vinmoet
2012-03-05 12:11:50 I used to be a pirate, does that count?
2012-03-05 12:30:25 A pirate would utilize a sabre in fencing. Bbob, I believe this is some footage of you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKUEZIrDVT8
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2012-03-05 12:34:53 On the other hand, after a couple of lessons, my neighborhood shall enjoy watching some foil fencing as we two
boys duke it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxBHrYloFXw
2012-03-05 12:58:58 Sabre - points scored on a touch even with the side of the blade above waist, arms and head. In my view, the
sabre is the closest weapon to that of a pirate though a pirate might prefer epee rules.
Foil - Thrust only (no side touches). There is a pressure point weighted to 500 grams (the theoretical piercing
point of skin) which is required to score the point. Target area is above the waist. Catch is there are rules as to
when you can get points. The instigator of an attack gets priority but if his attack fails, he loses the priority. This
is the thinking man's game. Very very cool. A pirate would not like this.
Epee - No rules. Entire body is a target. Lots of fun to watch.
23954 BrunelloBob
23955 luddite
23956 vinmoet
2012-03-05 13:03:29 What about light sabres?
2012-03-05 13:45:36 @vinny: Our daughter took fencing lessons along with ice skating and horseback riding. I still have all her fencing
gear. One year of lessons plus gear $1000 and that was 10+ years ago....
2012-03-05 13:50:04 Ahhhh, so you were a SPACE pirate. Then I am way of the mark.
Perhaps we have you on film here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_yY7cDKhOU
No, wait, its here:
23957 vinmoet
23958 john o'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JXpW1jdB4k
2012-03-05 13:52:06 Luddite,
I am guessing that fencing was still much cheaper than horseback riding...the ultimate words of terror: "daddy, I
want my own horse..."
2012-03-05 14:27:58 "I am guessing that fencing was still much cheaper than horseback riding…the ultimate words of terror: “daddy, I
want my own horse…”
Nope, it's: I'm pregnant, I love him very much and he gets out of prison very soon. I got this tatoo to honor him"
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2012-03-05 15:21:54 @vinny: You're right fencing was much cheaper (try 2 horses).
23960 BrunelloBob
@john o': You're also correct. The horses were purchased to keep her mind off boys. Worked pretty much
throughout high school (not so much during college) and yes avoided us having to hear the dreaded P word...
Now she's 26, has a good job, and is dating a grad student at Northeastern (same school the U-boat commander
is attending). She recently completed her application to attend BC law school. Just when I thought I was finished
paying for school...
2012-03-05 15:34:38 Luddite's daughter is dating Brooks' son?!
23963 A Frayed Knot
There'll be a wedding in these here Hills!
2012-03-05 18:55:51 I am not left handed!.......oh, wait....I am left handed!
23964 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7zvffHu_wo
2012-03-05 22:39:43 "What about light sabres?"
What about Buffalo Sabres? Oh wait, they suck...
Fencing... Horseback riding... the "P" word... There is much philosophy here in the Hills. And there are Pirates,
too! :lol:
Oooo! A Hills Wedding?! GREAT! We get to drink more wine!
On the wine subject, any thoughts on tonight's Riesling offer? There is a soft spot in the BLou household for
Riesling...
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2012-03-05 23:16:23 Forgot to mention that I stopped by a LWS today to pick up some Gewertz for Mrs BLou today. While in the
Alsace section, I suddenly hear "Hey! You don't need to be buying any more wine!" It was joeg, coincidentally in
the store at the same time. This was certainly an instance of pot/kettle/black as Joe was carrying a box of wine
himself (and he has a most impressive wine cellar filled with mucho impressive vino!)
Cher... over 60 and still has a set of pipes!
2009 Lamadrid "Single Vineyard" Malbec, Argentina. Will not be rebuying...
Before there was Clapton, there was Elmore James:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBA2REoRD98&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL75
F3F34341D4A0DF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_aZ0jPPiao
23966 BuffaloLou
2012-03-06 00:07:24 New Wiki entry: under "Black Tongue Syndrome" it says "See Malbec."
2012-03-06 13:07:05 Apparently there's another flash wine site that just popped up today: http://www.winetwitsdeals.com/
I've got the 2007 La Maialina and it was OK, not much info I could find on the 2008. Not a bad price for an
everyday drinker, though!
23974 BrunelloBob
2012-03-06 13:23:25 @WIM: Did you have the straight La Maialina Chianti or the La Maialina Chianti Classico Riserva?
I see the Classico Riserva in your cellar, and that should be a significant step up from the straight Chianti.
x
You're right though, hard to go wrong for that price.
2012-03-06 14:19:29 BBob I had the Reserva, but they're pushing those wines, as my LWS just sent out a mailer for the 2007 Reserva
for $17.98 ea for 6 and the 2008 La Maialina Toscana Rosso Gertrude for $11.98 ea for 6. I paid $16.98 from WL
in Jan 11.
2012-03-06 21:04:09 Poor, poor Muffett McGraw...
2012-03-06 21:11:58 Had some very nice Cigliuti wines with Claudia Cigluiti last night here in Vermont...............
2012-03-06 21:17:28 @TonyO: Very nice!
23978 BrunelloBob
23979 TonyO
23980 luddite
Enjoyed a bottle of this wine over the past three nights:
http://www.wineaccess.com/store/chateaudevaudieudirectoctober2010/index.html
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2012-03-06 21:28:15 Q: What do you call a bottle of wine that lasts three nights?
A: "Nebuchadnezzar"
(wino humor)
(("I Kill Brooks"))
2012-03-07 09:44:19 What did the grape say when it got stepped on?
Answer: Nothing – but it let out a little whine.
23986 louas
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BaroloDude
john o'
BaroloDude
BURGHen Boy
mr21cbs
louas
(BBob, we're nothin' but genius...)
Kansas fan Basketball joke:
Why do Missouri fans only play 14 holes of golf?
They don't know how to get to the Final Four!!
a horse walks into a bar....
..... so I said to the genie: "How about a little head?"
"its driving me nuts!"
and the man in the bar says "do you really think I asked the genie for a 10 inch pianist?"
...the talent here never ceases to amaze me
2008 Twisted Oak Petite Sirah from Woot, $17. Delish bottle of wine. Nice fruit, strong but not overpowering
tannins, great long finish.
Definite re-buy.
Hey BLou: did you get some of this?
@louas - Not this offer, but I did go in on a Twisted Oak offering from Woot some time ago, IIRC. I have not tried
the PS that I have, but I was disappointed with the other bottles (grenache & tempranillo). As such, I won't
be buying any more until I try the PS that I have. Also, I've heard from another "independent" source that his
"The Spaniard" is the only bottling that's worth buying. Then again, that was just one person's opinion.
23997 BuffaloLou
2012-03-07 22:59:36
23999 mr21cbs
2012-03-08 08:28:08 Happy International Women's Day to our better halves!
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2012-03-08 10:00:51 cbs...and we all knew that's what today was...
Hey, anyone familiar with the '09 Domaine Laleure Piot Pernand Vergelesses 1er Cru
Les Vergelesses Rouge on WTSO for $30w/shipping?
Can find out very little about it. K&L sells it for $45. The fact that they sell it means something plus the
vintage is phenomenal plus the Appellation is good. Am not Mr. Burgundy, so I don't know the maker. A casual
search on my French sites did not turn up much.
24001 vinmoet
Here are the prices for it in Euros http://www.laleure-piot.com/tarifs.php which works out to about $31 there (I
believe @ Chateau). This could actually be a pretty good buy despite the Newman 93 point review. But I'm Mr.
Bordeaux over here and can't be of much help. Inmates?
2012-03-08 10:09:16 So, KisforKate: Did you attend the Cheese competition in Madison?
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/story/2012-03-08/cheese-championship/53411358/1
24002 BrunelloBob
24004 BaroloDude
2012-03-08 10:10:07 FWIW, my philosophy re:Newman is that his scores are relative. He throws out a lot of 90-91s, but not a lot of 9394s.
So a 93 point score has some weight, even from Newman.
2012-03-08 13:26:11 re today's malbec QPR write up....
"BuffaloLou:....After buying this bottle to try, I’ll be making a case purchase!"
IF I HAD A DIME FOR EVERY TIME BUFFLOU MADE A CASE PURCHASE.... ;-) I keeeed I keeeeed.
Last night wine was STUNNING. A bottle of the Big Basin Rattlesnake Rock Syrah 2005 (yes from the LBW deal
last year which i shilled a bit on)... ok on Pop N Pour, but after 30min, and for the next 90... it was stunning. I
used to love California styled fruit forward powerful Syrahs (DuMOL being at the top of that heap for me), but my
palate has developed (or just changed) from that, and while i still haven't found a strong liking for most ultrapeppery Northern Rhone wines yet, i am starting to like them more and more. This Big Basin , to me, is a
perfect 50/50 old world/new world styled Syrah. Great dark fruit, smokiness, meat juice/bloody note, fragrance
of pepper but not overpowering.. This is now officially my favorite bottling of Syrah, and its pretty darn
consistent from vintage to vintage. Tasting room is just a few miles away in downtown Saratoga now.
Hmmmmmm. Maybe an extended lunch today is needed....
24006 BuffaloLou
2012-03-08 14:46:26 @BDude - what did you pay for the Big Basin Syrah? And yeah, guilty as charged... :lol:
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2012-03-08 16:38:51 ITKRC, the present stock pf Big Basin in command cellar was procured at the 'other Gary' a year back in the
<40. range over a year back. Wonderful testament to American winemaking skills. With peppery cigar box
nose, followed by dark berry palate with tannins working nominally on the finish
have the kaos brigade demanding weekly rations. Good call corporal barolo.
kaos out
2012-03-08 18:42:47 Luddite: Jealous? Yeah, Illini already projected as a three seed in....the NIT. I don't see any poisonous nuts
projected to make the NIT.
http://nitology.com/
Although, there are some surprisingly big names in there so I guess I don't feel that lonely.
24012 BuffaloLou
24014 mr21cbs
What a slide. Strong mid season RPI, some very solid top 25 wins, a top 10 ranking, and then after beating OH St.
we lose 12 out of 14. Wow. Time to pull out some of those high ABV wines I've been avoiding. NIT here we
come!
2012-03-08 21:13:26 Enjoying a Buty '06 Horse Heaven Hills Columbia Rediviva (55% Cab 45% Merlot) - Delicious! I was a little
concerned on the pnp as it was like the 'Oak Monster', but after 30 minutes the fruit came forward to balance
the wine. It's been drinking beautifully for over 2 hours. Shout out to Scott W for his suggestion on popping this,
now.
Tonight I signed my son up for the National Scout Jamboree ("Jambo") 2013 at BSAs new Summet Bechtel Ranch
in WV. He is ecstatic, but can't believe he has to wait over a year!
2012-03-08 22:06:26 Speaking of our sons... today is the first day of Mid-Atlantic Regional Junior Olympics. We had no events today
but in the next 3 days I will be MIA while feeding, driving, massaging, and encouraging my boys. Being a "just
turned 11 years old" among the kids who are almost 13 is not easy, but they better hang in there. 6-12 months
age difference in body size, strength and speed are significant, but it is what it is. Experience and toughness. See
you in a few days. Good luck to your college basketball teams in the tourney. My team, Drexel, has no shot at
going far, but we shall see...
24015 BuffaloLou
2012-03-08 22:14:07 @cbs - Good luck to your boys!
24017 castello
I purchased a couple bottles of Fetzer '10 Gewurztraminer for my wife. Don't ask me why, but for some reason I
looked at the bottle to see the ABV. It is NOWHERE! What gives? Isn't ABV level printed on the bottle required
by law?! I wonder if it's counterfeit? (joke... ref:
http://wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61172)
2012-03-09 04:27:19 @Bdude/Beavis: I love a long lunch and Local Syrah! I'll need a few minutes to get ready :)
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friggin' cindy.... :)
@BB - Have you had the BdM on CW?
Not the 2006.
La Poderina is a good (not Great), traditional-style BdM producer with a long track record. Well worth the Cindy
price when lesser-name Brunello, and some RdM, is going for more.
This kind of pricing in a good vintage has got to be killing the rossos, and even Chianti. You can only go so low.
24026 vinmoet
2012-03-09 13:39:25 Empire has an '09 Haut Medoc for 18 bones delivered, minimum 4. Am not at all familiar with it. That said,
probably my favorite reviewer is Neil Martin and he gave it 92 points and said:
"Tasted at the Cru Bourgeois 2009 tasting in London. The Devise d’Ardilley was the winner of the Coup de Cru
Bourgeois that I judged at Vinexpo in June. Here, it justifies that “coup”. It has a lovely, beautifully defined
bouquet with pure dark berried fruits intertwined with marmalade and orange rind. Sheer class. The palate is
beautifully balanced with superb acidity. Very vibrant, very composed with a sensual, caressing finish worthy of a
Grand Cru Classe. Outstanding for its class. Tasted September 2011."
This vintage is so good that many, many wines will overachieve. At this money, its worth the roll of the dice.
24027 BrunelloBob
24028 vinmoet
2012-03-09 13:54:14 @Vinny: I knew you were gonna say that :lol:
2012-03-09 14:30:35 So I guess we'd better be careful next time we want to buy three quarters of a million dollars of Romanee Conti...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204603004577269930226889356.html?grcc=5302462f34af511
2a993fb1a2b7627dfZ11&mod=WSJ_hps_sections_newyork
24029 BuffaloLou
2012-03-09 14:45:07 @vinny & all: This has been talked about extensively on WB . Here is the lastest about the FBI and Rudy:
http://wineberserkers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61172&start=950#p838679
24030 luddite
2012-03-09 15:43:13 @vinny: No shame in winning the NIT. I say go for it!
24031 BrunelloBob
In other news: I finally pulled a @ctwino on Last Bottle and bagged the $25 credit!
2012-03-09 16:02:19 Whatcha buy Ludds?
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2012-03-09 16:18:30 BrunelloBob... you need to buy the Bord deal on Empire.
Vinmoet...
you need to buy the Brunello deal on Cindy.
24033 vinmoet
Voila. A little "cross-mojonation" cannot hurt! The yin and the yang...
2012-03-09 16:19:26 You're right Ludds, nothing like battling for the rights to claim #69 in the country. Hey, isn't that BDude's favorite
number?
24034 BaroloDude
We only paid $3.9mil. to fire our coach. I would have agreed to be fired for a lot less than that.
2012-03-09 16:26:36 For those of you considering the Poderina, there are more comments on it at klwines.com some of the staffers
have comments on the product page http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=1074173
I have no experience with Poderina, and know that there are other BdMs, while more expensive, that i probably
want to try first. This stuff might be around a while in the market. K&L has been pushing this stuff at
discounted prices (below the 39.99 price point) for a long time and JUST ran out earlier today.
24035 BrunelloBob
2012-03-09 16:27:25 @Dude :lol: :lol: :lol:
Why don't we all just get together and crack a couple Super Tuscans? I've got an '04 Sassacaia burning a hole...
24036 luddite
2012-03-09 16:39:50 @vinny: Why so bitter, after all the Poisonous Nuts won the NIT in '08 and have have done pretty well since...
@B²: The '04 Pas Curtei Penedes (IWC-ST 88) for $9.
24037 BaroloDude
24038 BrunelloBob
24040 KenI
24041 Hinrgman
24042 BuffaloLou
2012-03-09 16:41:37 Bdude's favorite team, the Cal Bears, won the NIT back in the 90s... i felt proud. They never win anything, so it
was good...
2012-03-09 17:36:30 UCONN won the NIT in 1988, my senior year. I remember the games fondly. Drank a bit of beer back then...
Up to that point we had never won anything either. My, how times have changed...
2012-03-09 18:16:47 For those who live in CA, looks like Trader Joe's has 2006 Quixote Petite Syrah($60/bottle) relabeled as Lance and
Windmill for $15/bottle. Same capsule, different label, and some have reported they are in quixote boxes.
Seems like it's only in CA TJs.
2012-03-09 19:02:17 @Ken - yes it looks that way, any TJ in NJ is unaware of any such wine.
2012-03-09 19:54:29 I wish I was taking a trip to CA...
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2012-03-09 21:02:23 The Kommander and staff are appreciating some down time with a few bottles of Twisted Oak River of Skulls
while carefully monitoring the bruce springsteen concert at the Apollo on XM.
While your Kommander may disagree with some of Bosun Bruces politics, the Kommander overlooks and listens.
Perhaps this hippie dude may be right on some issues. Either way the juice is working. Long live the E street band.
kaos out...
24044 BuffaloLou
2012-03-09 21:47:19 Is the hippie dude related to the barolodude?
2012-03-09 22:52:03 After two hours and two bottles, the Kommander appreciates and begrudgemently endorses both barolo dude
and bruce dude. rip Clarence, rock on jake
2012-03-10 01:53:07 Wine satire at its best
http://hosemasterofwine.blogspot.com/2012/03/parkenstein-explains-perfection.html
2012-03-10 06:55:36 NY Times Asimov
24047 David T
24048 Hinrgman
24049 vinmoet
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/10/nyregion/doubts-grew-slowly-about-wine-collector-charged-withfraud.html
2012-03-10 09:37:01 Illinois lost to NC in the title game in 05 finishing the season 30-2. Old Vin went to all of the final four games and
even enjoyed losing to NC. At some level, NCAA every year is a given. The only question should be how far you'll
go in the tourney. I'll watch the NIT but I'm drinking 15.5%abv Seghesio to do it. We are projected a 6 seed and
may not even get in.
One of the most amazing games was the Illinois comeback against AZ in the elite 8 in '05. IL was down 15 points
with 4 minutes to go, ties the game and wins in overtime. You can watch the last 4 minutes of regulation play
over and over and still not see how it will be possible for them to come back.
A 4 minute highlight off of UTube...you can fast forward to the 4 minute mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmrvVQFGFlY
24053 louas
2012-03-10 14:47:49 Well Vinny, having lived in Tucson for the past 30 years, I remember that game vividly, as a Nightmare. I think I
remember me screaming at TV for Lute Olsen to call time out call time out call time out.
Fast forward to today when AZ has a chance to steal Pac12 Tourney at find itself in the dance with an undersized,
undermanned team, but a very dogged and determined coach.
Go Cats!
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2012-03-10 15:07:28 Quixote PS
I like with Green Eggs and Ham
TJs Framingham (MA)
Lance Windmills label
Folks run like hearing alarms
With cases in arms
2012-03-10 15:49:01 Louas, Lute was great. Loved to watch him from the sidelines. AZ is very scrappy this year. Good luck in the
tourney!
Just got back from my first fencing tournament. Had my 8yo son in it. My 14yo daughter was supposed to play
but she was stuck in a piano recital practice. My 8 yo tied for 3rd place. At this young age, they are allowed to
tie. When older, you play off to decide the bronze winner. Kind of like battling for an NIT title (except that is a
battle for 69th place not 3rd (I just won't give it up, will I)).
At that age all you can do is cheer everyone on and you hate it when a kid doesn't win, even when its your kid
that beat him. My son was grinning ear to ear and was really proud. He got dinged up in the chest when a hit
snuck by his chest protector and he got nailed in the hand a few times, but he loved the whole process.
The winner was a 10 YO who has been training two years and has, now, 8 tournament championships. My son,
who has been fencing a month, had to fence this kid twice. Got smoked twice but scored more points on him
than anyone else at the tourney including the championship match. That kid really had quick feet and serious
technique.
I'd say a month in to this and we're addicted. For some reason, it makes me want to drink Burgundy.
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2012-03-10 16:32:59 Picked up a bottle of the 2004 R Wines Shiraz Evil Incarnate on Cindy about a year ago. Classic Cinderella offer:
Suggested Retail: $79.99, WL Sales price: $59.98, Cinderella price: $29.92.
Just pulled it out of the cellar to bring to friends' tonight, and for laughs I looked it up on Wine Searcher (nonpro). Only one retailer shows up. He's got 4 bottles at $229.95/bottle. Really.
A couple of points here:
1) Best wine investment I Ever made, or likely will Ever make :lol:
2) If you know that your friends are the type to look up the price of the bottle after you leave, and reciprocate in
kind, how does "etiquette" suggest one broaches the subject of price/value?
24058 luddite
24060 TonyO
24061 mr21cbs
(Who am I kidding, I'm gonna let them piss away 225 bucks! :lol: :lol: )
2012-03-10 18:05:32 @B²: I would strongly suggest your friends invest in WS-pro as the best price for said wine shows $59.95. The
$170 savings for this one bottle will easily justify the $39 annual subscription. :D
2012-03-10 20:20:50 Just opened a 2008 Owen Roe Chapel Block Syrah................holy $^*&(^*(&* this is AMAZING.....black
fruit, chocolate, the perfect amount of spice and about the silkiest mouthfeel you could imagine..........when Dave
O'Reilly gets it right, no one makes better wine ! This wine deserves every single one of the 97 points it received
in the WS review
2012-03-10 21:10:57 @vinmoet, congratulations to your son, that is very impressive performance after such a short practice schedule.
~
Good times for both boys at Junior Olympics the last couple of days. Dropping seconds left and right. Tomorrow
is the last day. The events could not be different. A quick 50 Back for Greg (should be over in under 32 sec), then
a long 1650 Free for Jacob (he should try to get it done in 21 min). We are both exhausted as the warm-ups are
at 7:15am, it is an hour drive, and the time change tomorrow isn't helping either.
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2012-03-10 23:10:19 @Vinny - Congrats to your son!
@cbs - Sounds like congrats are also in order for your boys! Hang in there, we all will get enough sleep when we
die. ;)
@TonyO - your post inspired me to look up the Chapel Block Syrah. I see it's now selling for double what it was a
year ago! (This action also convinced me to upgrade to WSPro... ) I might join their wine club. Anyone have any
thoughts on it (the wine club)?
Enjoying a 2007 Perrin & Fils Gigondas La Gille tonight. This is very tasty! Haven't done TNs yet, but will
shortly.
24063 BuffaloLou
2012-03-11 00:15:45
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=634738" rel="nofollow">2007 Perrin & Fils
Gigondas La Gille</a> - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Gigondas (3/10/2012)
C: near opaque black-ruby
N: Intense anise on the pnp which subdued a little revealing cherries
P: Plum and raspberries; a brambly earthy-ness on the back end
F: medium+
Delicious now, should continue to improve over a few more years, perhaps more. Drinking so well I wouldn't
hesitate to consume over the next 12 months. (91 points)
24064 TonyO
2012-03-11 08:53:37 @BLou: if the wines are not available in your area, I would join the club...Vermont receives quite a bit so it is
accessible here but if it weren't I would join.....Owen Roe are simply some of the best Syrahs, Cab Francs, Cab
Savs, and Merlots made IMO....
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2012-03-11 10:53:02 I'm finally going to drop the athletic bit, but before I do, this is a clip from Bruce Webber's farewell at the press
conference announcing his termination. Talk about a class act:
http://www.fightingillini.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030912aae.html
I am in the camp that expects a big program to be in the NCAA /top 25 mix every year but I am also in the camp
where I won't compromise the education of the kids and the ethics of the program to do that. A Kentucky style
program full of one and done players is, IMHO, a sell-out and says everything you need to know about the
academic commitment. Whoever hires Webber will be getting the whole package. Whoever Illinois hires better
not write off ethics, academics and the best interests of the kids to get to the big dance.
24066 vinmoet
2012-03-11 11:19:31 Oh, guys, just so you are aware, the tourney that my son was involved in was a very small one with very
inexperienced kids. The kids who finished in the top were really good, the rest were all relative newbies like my
son although he's been both in classes and private lessons which is a big advantage. But, being the good father I
am, its clear from my not so objective stand point that he is an absolute fencing prodigy.
Last night I opened an old friend, the 2007 E. Guigal CDR that we put up as a QPR. There is still quite a bit of '07
around and the '09 is harder to find. The '07 is not a wine to age much longer. Last night was a solid, good
performer. Still a great QPR at about $10. Picked up a case for every day wine purposes. Oldest was out doing
a sleep over somewhere, so my 11 yo daughter set up a "slider" buffet in front of the TV and we dined on the
mini burgers and vinmoet's famous toll house cookies while watching an old Cary Grant film "I was a Male War
Bride" 1949. The Guigal was perfect.
Friday night I opened a 2008 Monbousquet. Parker gave it 92 points and said:
24067 BuffaloLou
24069 John O'
"This sexy, beautiful wine has the same potency (14% alcohol) as the 2010, which is surprising given the
difference in alcohol strengths in these two vintages. Soft, round and opulent, this sexy 2008 reveals lots of white
chocolate, espresso roast, Christmas fruitcake, black currant and cherry characteristics in its flamboyant bouquet.
Round, medium to full-bodied and lush, it can be enjoyed now and over the next decade. This is a sleeper of the
vintage."
2012-03-11 13:41:21 @TO - TY!
2012-03-11 17:42:02 popped a 2008 Flora Springs Trilogy. Sitting in the decanter opening. Tried the bottom of the bottle about 1/2
hour after opening. Still very tight, but early signs are very good.
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2012-03-11 19:24:03 @JohnO - The Trilogy was one of my fav bottlings. Nice juice! Update us with how it progresses.
Rotisseried a bone-in roast pork loin for dinner tonight. Oh my was it tasty!! Paired it with an '08 J Vineyards
Pinot Gris. Fantastic pairing!
@BuffLou
I envy folks who can write incerdible descriptors of the wines they drink. I don't enjoy that gift and tend to be a
bit binary.
The 2008 Trilogy opened up and was smooth and elegant. Beautiful nose.
Definately reccomend.
WTSO has a cab that is sure to leave you satisfied and smiling with pleasure............TWSS and the name of the
wine is Michael Scott...could be worth the $20 (4 for free shipping)
Thanks John!
Agreed NYPete- Phantom is a great value!
Renzo Masi Chianti Rufina Reserva 2008 WS90 on Empire, 4 delivered for 12 bones. I like my Chianti a bit grittier
than this, an odd complaint that this fairly fruity and smooth, but that's how I role. They make a Chianti below
this that is not Reserva and has that gritty appeal. We buy both for a week night inexpensive pasta match. At
this price, delivered, a great QPR.
Another. 2006 amorone deal up, this one on Anthology. (Riondo?)
24072 John O'
2012-03-11 19:44:14
24073 TonyO
2012-03-11 20:54:05
24074 BuffaloLou
24075 McMalbec
24078 vinmoet
2012-03-11 22:00:55
2012-03-11 23:48:17
2012-03-12 09:30:57
24079 mcmalbec
2012-03-12 12:20:41
24080 vinmoet
Reporting from a breezee Miami beach!!!!
2012-03-12 13:05:39 mcmalbec: Jealous. Love Miami. We usually stay on Key Biscayne, you South Beach dudes are too wild for our
little family.
There is a very cost effective, delicious & authentic Spanish restaurant. We love Spain and this hits the
mark. They have a wine store as part of the restaurant and you just pay retail for wine when you eat dinner.
Truly and mom and pop place, bare tables and harsh lighting are my only criticisms.
http://www.deliciasdeespana.com/store1/restaurant_eng.asp
Have a great time!
24081 louas
24082 joe g
2012-03-12 14:36:18 another thumbs up for the Bogle Phantom
2012-03-12 15:27:06 wine tip of the day.... if you have a 29 lafite in your cellar and the chance to sell it for a couple thousand bucks,
sell it
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2012-03-12 16:14:34 If you drink it, send me the empty bottle.
I got a side gig goin' with an auction house...
2012-03-12 17:42:02 Let me know if anybody who wanted to order Friday's bordeaux offer missed out - after packing many of the
orders, it turns out that there is a small amount left. Thank you.
2012-03-12 18:37:07 Thank you, Adam. Mine is already in the hands of UPS.
2012-03-12 18:54:27 @joe g - thanks for the tip. I'll get right on that. ;)
2012-03-13 00:40:36 Mmm Granache!
Mmm Syrah!
Hey! You got Grenache in my Syrah!
Hey! You got Syrah in my Grenache!
Delicious!
Two great tastes that taste great together.
French Cote du Rhone, real Grenache….delicious Syrah.
France’s CdR……. Also available in CdP, with a papal endorsement!
Pick some up today!
2012-03-13 05:13:39 AFK
That's fantastic! I won't be able to get that tune out of my head
2012-03-13 13:32:10 Any of you iPad users can recommend good productivity, fun and entertaining apps? My New iPad should arrive
this Friday. Thanks!
2012-03-13 14:01:59 The Kommander recently upgraded to the Ipad and is now in the process of filling 64 GB of drive. What the
kommander has found most interesting and useful so far is
Numbers app... spreadsheets made easy
imovie app... AMAZING movie editing
Keynote app... put together great biz presentations.
GarageBand app... if you are like the kommander, this nifty app will keep you occupied for days on end amazing
eight track capabilities.
Pandora radio app... in the kommanders opinion, the best streaming music out there.
Movies by flixter app... before leading the staff to the local tri-plex, the Kommander will first vett out feature
with this app.
Metalstorm wingman app... The kommander likes to leave his ground troops and soar like an eagle.
Reuters news Pro app... very up to date breaking news.
PBS for ipad app... because the Kommander wants to get something for his tax dollars
This should keep you busy for awhile.
If the Kommander thinks of any others, he will let you know via the wide world web
Kaos out
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2012-03-13 14:33:03 Alright. Spring break coming up. Saturday we fly into San Diego staying with friends in Rancho Verde, a
subdivison at the North part of San Diego. Its still chilly there but have been advised that the pool temp is being
turned up to 81 in my honor.
Mrs. V. is cooking Saturday night, Sunday night is couples night out, Monday night staying in again, Tuesday night
going out. Our friends pick all of the restaurants. All I know is that upon arrival my 8yo wants fish tacos at Los
Panchos by the airport. I'm in agreement only add a Corona to that order.
Depart Wed. a.m. and will travel North along the coast staying that night in San Luis Obispo. Home of Cal Ply
Tech I think. Driven by it, never stayed there. Unless I get other feedback, my internet search indicates that we
will eat dinner at http://www.bigskycafe.com or, less likely, http://www.novorestaurant.com
Thursday a.m. have a family horseback ride through the dunes and on the beach. Am very excited about that.
Horses on the beach, not a common thing. After that, the Monteray Bay Aquarium. That night, China town in
San Francisco. Friday night Mrs. V is researching a restaurant...hmmmm she still hasn't gotten that done...am
worrying about reservations issues. Well, I always have Chinatown. Saturday afternoon back to Chicago.
Sat & Sun night in San Diego will be old Bordeaux nights. After that, strictly Cali wines for old VM.
24101 luddite
2012-03-13 15:51:35 @mr21cbs: Gave Mrs. Luddite the iPad for Valentine's day. She recommends:
24102 vinmoet
Evernote: All of your notes, web clips, files and images are made available on every device and computer you
use. http://www.evernote.com/
Smithsonian Channel
Kindle
MLB at bat 2012
Penultimate: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/penultimate/id354098826?mt=8
2012-03-13 15:52:01 I made two back up reservations:
http://www.boulevardrestaurant.com/
and http://www.fireflyrestaurant.com
Any San Fran recommendations? Want Cali inspired/style food...
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2012-03-13 16:34:01 @vin: I am no expert on San Fran (maybe BaroloDude will chime in...) but I really like this place alot,
www.scalasbistro.com
Hard to go wrong in SF
2012-03-13 16:52:12 TonyO: That looks truly wonderful, thanks for the suggestion. However, that menu is Italian and I am looking
more for something Californian, whatever that is (organic herb massaged tofu on a bed of biodynamic seaweed
infused with reclaimed hickory wood smoke prepared by a yoga instructor bio chef transported in a Prius). Or
something to that effect. All that when all I really want is a fish taco and a beer, right? Well, maybe some of that
pasta too...
2012-03-13 20:17:39 @vinmoet: yeah, hard to define "california cuisine".....just avoid the tourst trap "chowder in a bread bowl" ! I
would however, not miss a trip to www.hogislandoysters.com
Slurping down a few oysters freshly plucked from the ocean with a bottle of Sancerre..........GOOD GOD !
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2012-03-13 20:36:59 vinnymo... Firefly is great. Good choice for what you are looking for imho.
Harder to get into, and italian inspired but still a California take is Quince.
"Situated in San Francisco’s Jackson Square Neighborhood, Quince is housed in an 1907 historically landmarked
brick and timber building . Quince features a daily changing Italian-inspired menu that celebrates the seasonal
bounty of Northern California" James Beard winning chef there too.
I have not been to Quince yet but the inlaws love it. Cotogna right next door (and attached related to quince) is
supposed to be even better and better value too.
"Cotogna is a celebration of rustic Italian cuisine and offers a daily-changing menu of spit-roasted or grilled meats
and fish, wood-oven pizzas and house-made pastas.
Located in San Francisco's historic Jackson Square, Cotogna ('quince' in Italian) is a casual, lively venue and a
compliment to the adjoining Quince Restaurant, Chef Michael Tusk’s celebrated fine dining establishment" Also
hard to get into, but might allow drop ins and not fill up with reservations alone.
I have not been, but have had recommended, a California style/French place called Boulevard as well (at top of
Mission St). Expensive but supposed to be very good.
For great eyetalian try Perbacco, Barbacco, Cotogna, La Ciccia (i am going this weekend!) and high end Acquerello
(best italian wine list ever). There are other fancy ones but i think they are too full of themselves and charge too
much.
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2012-03-13 21:12:49 BaroloDude chiming in ! Certainly beats my recs based on 48 hours in the city by the bay (please do NOT cue the
Journey......)
2012-03-13 21:36:28 @Vinny - I hope you have a great vaca! Enjoy some great vino and some awesome food! (It's what vacas are for,
right?)
2012-03-13 22:59:26 @ Vinny one other place you can try in SF one of my fav's and it is all California, salads and homemade breads.
http://outerlandssf.com/
24113 BaroloDude
2012-03-14 04:47:58 if you want to get really ultra Cali in SF, you go to Greens in Fort Mason. I think they serve a bunch of weeds in a
bowl with dressing...
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2012-03-14 07:59:15 Thank you, Kommander, I will look into these. I am not totally novice when it comes to the apps, but there are so
many and you will help me avoid stepping into kr@p while exploring what I really need. Appreciate you time.
~
@luddite, I have been using Evernote for years, the rest of your suggestions are wonderful. I will check out the
Smithsonian for sure.
24117 vinmoet
2012-03-14 09:07:08 Bdude: Greens sounds huber Californian...I hope the salad weeds are free range weeds that consented to being
eaten.
Those are great selections. I am running Quince and Cotogna by Mrs. V. I have reservations at both Firefly and
Boulevard as my back-ups. We are actually going to be in Monterey a week after you so the miss was bigger than
you thought. Am bummed that we can't make the connection. Am sure our kids would have gotten along
swimmingly at the Aquarium (what is their corkage fee there anyway?).
TonyO. hog island sound fantastic. Oysters have to be really fresh for me to eat 'em, but when they are a dozen
is just an appetizer. Am definitely putting it on a list for a future visit.
Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it and will be mullin' it over. Sounds like I have to do eyetalian for
lunch if we don't make it to one of the dinner places.
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2012-03-14 13:29:07 Ugh! Stopped by LWS today to pick up some daily drinkers. Get home and I see that Woot has 2009 Red
Zeppelin's Petite Sirah Black Zeppelin. $42 winery direct; $22.50 on Woot ($45/2) $5 shipping up to 3 deals.
Here's some notes: (not mine)
bacchusandbeery.com wine blog - Black Zeppelin is a “big boy” wine. Lots of Petite Sirah black jammy fruit,
tannins and oak create a complex structure. A bit less black pepper than others I enjoy but still a good spicy
flavor. As of January 2011, The 2009 Black Zeppelin was still a very young wine and it needs some time to fully
develop. Be sure to let it decant for up to a hour. Note: To give you an idea of the quality, this received a 4.0
rating; the 2007 Robert Biale Party Line Petite Sirah rec'd a 4.1 and the current QPR 2008 Bogle Vineyards
Phantom A Proprietary Red rec'd a 3.9.
Tastings.com - 91 points
WORLD WINE CHAMPIONSHIPS AWARD: Gold Medal
No surprise, I caved...
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2012-03-14 13:51:08 <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/event.asp?iEvent=17170" target="_blank"
rel="nofollow">INAUGURAL COLUMBUS OHIO WINEBERSERKERS OFFLINE - Nick C's House
(3/13/2012)</a>
Eight of us got together on a Tuesday night because I happened to be in town and many of us had never met. The
overall theme was Burgundy/Rhone because Nick will be traveling there next month. The vast majority of wines
opened ended up being Burgundy. I wish I could have dedicated more focus to each wine, but there simply were
too many opened in too short of a time period (as if that's a bad thing). It would be fascinating to revisit many of
these in five years as the majority were quite young.
Champagne + White Burgs
We opened a vintage Champagne while visiting on the back porch as everyone arrived, then moved inside for the
first flight of White Burgs.
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=881338" target="_blank"
rel="nofollow">2002 Perrier-Jouët Champagne Cuvée Fleur de Champagne</a> - France,
Champagne
A very pleasant cream/yeast/bready nose, but that didn't carry through to the palate, which I found rather bland.
Very fine bubbles. Others seemed to like this much more. (87 pts.)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=752256" target="_blank"
rel="nofollow">1999 Domaine Francois et Antoine Jobard Meursault 1er Cru
Genevrières</a> - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault 1er Cru
No premox problems here. Nutty along with anise and a rich fruit I couldn't place. Very rich palate. (90
pts.)</li>
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CT links immediately sucked it into the land of moderation-- it probably would have just been shorter/easier to
post the following simple link
2012-03-14 17:16:49 My friend is hosting one of the Owen Roe Wine dinners at his restaurant next week when David O'Reilly is here.
As I am and old restaurant hack, I will be helping out and sampling the latest releases. I will be sure to post some
notes (and pics if time allows). Hope to taste some of the latest release Chapel Block Syrah.......
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2012-03-14 18:44:25 Adam has several 2009 and 10's Bordeauxs up on his website.
http://www.empirewine.com/specials/best-selling-french-bargains-136/%20style=/
Are any of these familiar to you?
2012-03-14 18:58:44 Wow,my cell phone has been buzzing away!
@Bob or other- 2003 Il Poggione (Proprietá Franceschi) Brunello di Montalcino Riserva Vigna Paganelli on WTSO.
Thoughts?
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24143 McMalbec
2012-03-14 19:03:02 @DavidT, your re-post from CT was actually labeled as SPAM and not in moderation. I took the liberty to edit it
for the proper presentation as you used the Bulletin Board formatting on CT, instead of simple HTML, which is
the way to post into WordPress.
2012-03-14 19:39:37 @BB you going to cop to the JJB reisling deal today?
2012-03-14 21:14:06 @J.R.: In for two, may wish I had gone in for more given the price... Great winos think alike? ;)
@McMal: So sorry for the late response. Hope you grapped the Il Pog.
I bought earlier on WTSO for $59.99 and may have advised at the time: "Buy this wine, Cellar it for 10 years,
Drink it, Call me and tell me that you love me..." Mediocre vintage, but I Love the producer and Love their
riserva. I dropped 94 points on the 1997...
2012-03-14 21:21:42 @mr21 Many thanks! I did take a look at the html tags below before hitting submit but didn't realize CT had a
separate HTML publish option; I'll be sure to use that next time :)
2012-03-14 21:32:58 @BB..... Yeah i was thinking I was dumb for not grabbing a case. Never had an issue with JJB.
2012-03-15 09:15:10 MacMalbec: There are two '09's from Bordeaux, all the other wines are from the Loire, Rhone etc. I have not
had either Bordeaux but the reviewers are very solid. These are table wines which will drink early. '09 is a
vintage where this kind of wine will excel and be a great QPR. They would have a shelf life of a decade or so.
They should not be confused with the much better quality at 3+ times the price which need at least a decade
before you can drink 'em. These are enjoyable wines designed for food. Both would have my thumbs up.
2012-03-15 09:21:58 TonyO: Met with Mrs. V. last night. We settled on Cotogna which is only few blocks from our cheapie Chinatown
hotel. Was able to get a 5:30 reservation which sounds early, but its really 7:30 for the midwesterners with kids.
Looks like a very good recommendation. Thanks.
2012-03-15 11:46:36 @vin: thanks for your thoughts on the Bordeauxs.
I fondly recall our first family trips to San Francisco in the 1980s and staying at the holiday inn in Chinatown. It
was great a neighborhood then may have launched one of my children's study and use of the languages of China.
Enjoy.
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Wine.Woot is offering preserves; My credit card is safe... :lol:
Nice chardonay on Cindy today.
Didn't the winemaker say something about the 2009s not coming together as he hoped?
Or was that a different vineyard?
2012-03-16 13:12:20 @BB - waiting for Chris to post on the Cindy forum. Hopefully He will ans. some questions.
2012-03-16 14:05:46 Hi!
First time poster here. I'm on a quick break, but wanted to let @BrunelloBob know that Chris Donatiello was
referring to one of his 2009 Pinots not coming together. I think it came up when his '08 Floodgate Pinot.was on
Cindy. Folks were finding Cellartracker notes that the '09s were $15 at Trader Joe's.
And since I'm no longer a lurker, here's a little bit about me: I live in Crawfordsville, Indiana, a small town
partway between Indianapolis and Champaign, IL. My wife is a chemistry professor at the local college (Wabash
College), and I telecommute for a small consulting firm in the Washington, DC area.
I am fairly new to wine. My a-ha wine moment was a 2005 Conde De Valdemar Rioja. At $10.99, I discovered that
wine could be good without breaking the bank! Over the years, I've been able to move up my price point thanks
to Cindy and WTSO. My favorite varietal is Pinot Noir.
I also organize "Dudes on the Porch" a 2x-month gathering of, well, local dudes drinking wine on a porch. In the
wintertime we take it indoors! :)
Anyway, back to work. Hope to comment every now and then.
Patrick
24163 BrunelloBob
2012-03-16 15:52:33 I love it when we get a new avatar aroound here; those thinks Kill me.
Welcome Patrick! Agreed re: the discount sites raising the quality of our wino-ism....
24164 BuffaloLou
"Dudes on the porch" :lol:
2012-03-16 16:56:36 Welcome Patrick! Always nice to have a new inmate; it keeps things interesting! ;)
Dudes on the Porch - great idea! We all need another reason to drink some vino!
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2012-03-16 17:24:43 Looks like March is leaning toward being the warmest March on record for the Buffalo area. Our weather is like
it should be in May-June!
2012-03-16 18:49:40 What better way to start St. Patrick's Day weekend than with the greatest band to ever come out of the Emerald
Isle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6IsbOOlTNE
2012-03-16 19:40:39 @TO - I was thinking the same!
2012-03-16 21:55:34 Inmates, GaryVee (Gary V with two E's) was right when he told you to expand your palate- Tonight I popped the
09 Ciù Ciù Offida Pecorino Le Merlettaie https://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=57484 and it is a
stunning wine for $15. Bold and complex; 92DT and if WL had any more in stock I'd get a case. Unfortunately I'm
drinking my only bottle. My full review here: https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1040965
@BLou I completely agree about the weather- it was so nice in Cleveland today, after work I went for a walk on
the beach for the first time this year; that's a first for me in the middle of March!
@ptaylor2112 Welcome to the asylum! Nurse Ratched will be administering your meds soon...
...Speaking of Patricks, whatever happened to Patrick Hill??? He seems to be MIA for almost a year now.
24171 BURGHen Boy
2012-03-16 22:36:31 It should be noted that the Kommander kaved on the woot Red Zepplin last week as opposed to the qpr, Bogle
Phantom. Of course the Kommander os familiar with both. @ the woot price it was clearly an easy choice to pick
a far superior wine. Good call Ensign Lou
Kaos out
2012-03-16 22:58:00 @TonyO - Word
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSo9CC2wKVI&feature=related
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2012-03-17 05:51:22 Patrick: Welcome to the asylum. We needed some fresh blood around here. Am tickled that we have a
midwesterner here as well. Am in Champaign. Post often my friend.
Am up much too early this a.m. in preparation for beautiful San Diego. Tonight Mrs. V is preparing eyetalian food
at our friend's home there. I purchased some Chiantis for the event. Forgotten the wines' names and can't post
now since they have been packed, but they are pretty well reviewed more modern styled. Will post later if they
are worth it. Sunday night is couples night out w/o the kids. Normally a night for old Bordeaux. 1990 Rauzan
Segla Margaux and 1995 Monbousquet Saint Emilion.
After that, my friends have selected a number of Cali wines to cater to my grizzled old world palate. Am
psyched. Going to search for Cali wines that meet the old VM seal of approval. Will try to post up any finds. I
think Cali is stepping up its game as various makers are toning down extraction, lowering ABV and focusing on
bringing out terroir. That's the future and some are starting to really get it.
The only wine territory that I will be in will be Paso Robles and, given the family bent of the trip, I don't think I'll
get any formal touring in. But that's OK so long as there is tasting afoot.
24175 luddite
2012-03-17 07:34:39 @ptaylor2112: Welcome to the inmate that came in from the cold!!
Happy birthday to our San Francisco inmate the Dude! Nice of the Irish to celebrate your special day!!
24176 BuffaloLou
2012-03-17 09:18:59 @vinny - safe travels!
@BD - Happy Birthday! I hope you have a great day!
24177 David T
@kaos - always good to see your posts. Visit more often! :)
2012-03-17 09:31:46 @BD Happy birthday! My mother and Wine Library's Jeff Paradise will also be blowing out candles today.
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louas
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BuffaloLou
BrunelloBob
What a beautiful Duke-free morning it is!!!!!!!!
What suggestions could you give me for wine pairing with corned beef and cabbage?
@louas - The kind that's made with fermented hops, barley, and malts... :)
"Ding-Dong the duke is dead, the duke is dead, the Wicked duke is Dead!"
(UCONN is too, but that's beside the point).
Corned beef and cabbage = Beer. Preferably Guiness or Harp. Don't screw around with wine.
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2012-03-17 11:57:35 Happy St Pats day everyone! I for one am happy to see Coach K and the Dookies walk off the floor with a L
especially since it was Lehigh that stuck it to them. @vinmoet have a great trip, my kids Spring Break is in two
weeks and I guess the wife has scheduled us to a beach vacation in FL.
Disappointed that Michigan lost last night. Wanted to see the B1G have everyone advance. Looking forward to a
round of another 8-games today/tomorrow with some of that wine (ha) that @blou recommends to pair with
corned beef & cabbage.
My oldest son turns 15 this weekend - cant believe how fast they grow up. Have a great weekend everyone!
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24185 BuffaloLou
2012-03-17 12:05:43 @ptaylor I'm relatively new to this site as well. I live on the Southside of Indy so you have several Midwesterners
on here. I'd love to participate in an offline sometime if others are interested?
2012-03-17 12:21:58 @louas- GO Bucky!!!
@all- our local wine lovers group is doing a blind tasting of 6 Amorones(sp?) tonight. I will report tomorrow but
if you can direct me to some background on this wine, I would appreciate it.
2012-03-17 12:51:16 @McM - What time shall I arrive? :lol: Seriously, look for very ripe, extracted, raisiny, low acid. Typically high
alcohol and may be ever so slightly sweet (we're not talking 'off dry', just a hint of RS.) Typical color of deep ruby
red-violet. Typical aromas of plum, black cherry, raisin, spices, soy sauce, and chocolate. Usually med-full to full
bodied with med to big, but often silky, tannins. YMMV.
I look forward to your notes. This is my fav style of wine.
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2012-03-17 13:40:24 HAPPY ST PADDY'S DAY TO ONE AND ALL!
2012-03-17 14:40:57 Thank you all for your CB pairing suggestions. The "discussion" can now cease in my happy home. I'm going with
Bohemia a most delicious cerveza de Mexico.
2012-03-17 15:00:49 Happy ST. Patrick's Day to all ! Slainte and to hell with %^%&^ moderation !
@BurghenBoy: everytime I hear Rosalie (and it's often, trust me !!), I think of: 1. What a GREAT songwriter Bob
Seger is 2. What a shame that Thin Lizzy is not more widely appreciated 3. How much that song kicks
%$^&^*& arse !
Corned Beef and Cabbage tomorrow, tonight a Vermont pig roast and plenty of beverages. Don't drink and drive
!!!!
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2012-03-17 23:20:03 Just got back from an exhilarating Bandits Lax game. Went to dinner beforehand at a local "Irish Pub" where I
enjoyed some Irish Stew made with the Holy Grail, Guinness. Of course I downed a couple of Guinness, too!
Mrs. BLou enjoyed some Shepherd's Pie. The PITA to feed 13YO? Buffalo Chicken Wings. (I tried one; they were
quite good, albiet not hot enough.) After arriving home I dropped 2 corned beefs in the crock pots (on low.)
Potatoes and cabbage will go in around 10AM tomorrow. Relaxing with a Sam Adam's Cream Stout. (Wish I had
a Guinness tap here at home; the can's and bottles just don't do it... )
24192 John O'
2012-03-18 07:45:02 @Louas
Will be in Boston to support my Orangemen against your Badgers. Don't like our 2-3 zone against all the 3's you
guys hoist up.
2012-03-18 09:53:15 Before the Bandit's game, outside the Arena, a photographer from Buffalo dot com came up to the BLou family
and asked if he could take a pic for the website: http://www.buffalo.com/sports/gallery/bandits-swat-swarm-1310/#49
2012-03-18 10:45:59 @BuffLou
Sorry to break the bad news, but it appears your wife cheated on you with an Irishman.
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2012-03-18 14:00:05 Greetiings from freezing rainy San Diego. Am roughing it in a hill top villa just south of La Jolla. Pool temp is 81,
hot tub temp is 103 and air temp is very low 50's with rain and serious winds.
Last night Mrs. V made Italian so as soon as I dropped everyone off, I headed to various foodie stores to buy
fresh fava beans and organic whatnots. She made this very serious fava bean soup. Fry little bits of bacon, green
onions, regular onions, add chicken stock and other stuff then dump in the beans. Puree it, and serve it hot
drizzled with olive oil on the top. You've got to take the beans out of the pod, toss them in boiling water, take
them out, and shell them before dumping them in the soup. Sublime.
She then took bread crumbs that she had made from scratch at home, cut up fresh herbs and tumbled it together
with fresh crab and gulf shrimp. Then she cooked these huge artichokes and we inserted the mixture between
the leaves. After that she poured an herbed vinaigrette over the chokes and baked them.
The pasta dish was basically a marinara sauce from scratch but it was very light.
To drink we had the following:
2000 Dom
2007 Viticcio Reserva Chianti Classico. This is WS93 wine that was very fruity and, for me, too smooth and
modern for a Chianti. It was excellent nonetheless and the magnum disappeared pretty quickly. I hate to score
since I have limited Italian expertise, but I'd give it VM89 by my tastes.
2007 La Maialina Chianti Classico. This is a WA91. A bit leaner and more Chianti like for my money. VM90.
24200 BuffaloLou
24203 mr21cbs
Tonight is date night with the ladies. I have to see a live production of Room With A View. Will take much vino
2012-03-18 20:04:41 @JO - But I am Irish (well, part... )
2012-03-18 21:40:04 Welcome, Patrick. We are delighted to have you. Take a look at the past QPRs, many of which can still be found
and are drinking better than ever (http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/qpr-list). Also, some of the
proverbs about current or recent vintages, varietals, and just talks that were worth preserving (IMHO) can be
found here: http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/archive
If you have any questions, recommendations, ideas, complaints, do let me know, as I kinda run this place...
Cheers!
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2012-03-18 22:02:52 @JohnO: two really good coaches. Have no idea what UW is doing in the sweet 16. I guess they just don't beat
themselves. That 2-3 zone has stood the test of time. I would imagine the 'cuse will be a 3-4 point favorite,
which seems about right to me.
Boston rocks! Have a blast.
2012-03-19 18:17:15 Hey guys, are you drinking more these days? Maybe this is why :lol:
24219 BrunelloBob
24220 brooks
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/03/16/148744069/when-fruit-flies-strike-out-they-like-to-booze-itup?ft=3&f=121027244&sc=nl&cc=hh-20120319
2012-03-19 20:30:26 The third one from the left, on the bottom, kinda looks like Brooks....
2012-03-19 21:41:39 Fellow winos,
Happy Days to all! May your NCAA pool bracket be infected with victories beyond your madness to satisfy your
need to feast at Bob's Big Boy.
Holy Shi7 you would not believe all the @#&%ing blogs we have on the internet..I thought their was just TH
and WL....how do people keep up? I am just blown away.... Facebook Linkedin Twitter WineWoot Blogers in the
Congo.
Prof Luddite, Best wishes to your Ohio State Hoopsters....the study for your linked article was actually conducted
first in humans at UConn in the 70s. (I can not scientifically confirm this..but but..but B squared will tell us what
really happened ;) ).
WTF....where are the comments for the old CW blog. I justed looked up a previous wine purchased to check
comments and they were gone!!!!!! MrCBS21,please tell me this is just a cache empty issue (that is IT talk for
you non-hacks like me). I will be in NYC area and may have opportunity to visit the former temple for weekend
Sat event. I am planning on releasing the two no longer needed lab hamsters in the WL store ( they both have
name tags..Hamster #2 and Hamster #4 - I kevorkian me). Do we have these comments saved/downloaded
some where or do I need to bring what like a mother board hard drive flash drive container to WL for a / file
saved c: or or did the poetry die?
24221 BuffaloLou
OK sounds like the red rivers of great wine deals are flowing all over our great country. I may be wrong (and
confused) but this TJs Q Cellar Lance and Windmills Petite Syrah (typo on label - Quixote) for 15.99 may be the
2012-03-19 21:52:11 I am so envious that we don't have a TJ here in Buffalo. The one coming in Rochester won't be selling wine,
either! :(
@BB - Well done sir! :lol:
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2012-03-19 22:31:01 @Brooks, I have a copy of the CW site with all the comments. I can burn you a DVD or a $#!7 load of CDs (it is the
IT talk for a very large footprint. 2.76GB of all the junk and comment for a couple of years to be exact).
24223 BuffaloLou
24225 A Frayed Knot
2012-03-20 00:02:24 @cbs - any way to set it up so we can download it?
2012-03-20 02:07:51 Hello all! I thought I'd share my latest misadventure <a href="http://www.texasheritagebulbs.com/"
rel="nofollow">Texas Heritage Bulbs</a>
Not at all finished (now there's a surprise!) and nothing to do with wine........unless you are like Josie and like to
drink in the garden!
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2012-03-20 06:17:00
2012-03-20 08:52:15
2012-03-20 09:57:23
24230 BuffaloLou
2012-03-20 10:39:42
@Tony ~ Looks like the Hills are close to the 20,000 comment mark............this one is for mr21cbs............no
bogarting!
There's our Brooksie!
@AFK: Best of luck in your new enterprise!! As soon as it's up and running I'll place an order!
Tim/AFK: Your Texas Heritage Bulbs website is whetting my appetite, as I use lots of shallots (and too much
garlic, in my wife's opinion). Hopefully they will thrive in the West coast of FL humidity. Let us know when you
are up and running.
@AFK - The garlic variety which I plant in our garden has the red/purple skin. Perhaps it's the Moroccan variety
you have. It does well here, but does not get as large as it does in the South.
We have so much dried garlic that we didn't plant any this past Autumn. I should have to have some fresh.
Mistake. I might drop some in the ground shortly to see how it does. (We usually plant Columbus Day weekend;
harvest Independence Day.)
Anyway, your site looks good! Get that pricing up so orders can be placed... :)
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@WM - can one ever use too much garlic?
2012-03-20 10:43:38 Question for the day: Why is Windows so anti-productive?
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2012-03-20 11:58:01 @mr21cbs – Thanks for the archived links. Someday I would like to try good Bordeaux.
@luddite – Thank you. Your greeting makes me want to see “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.” And now I want to
listen to “Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn & Jones, Ltd.”
@jpakma – Yes, I’d love to do an offline. Perhaps Vinmoet could join us, too. The Dudes on the Porch are
intrigued...
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24234 BrunelloBob
24235 BuffaloLou
Speaking of the Dudes, last Saturday was best DotP ever! It was our 2 year anniversary, and our theme was "Hit
Me with Your Best Shot." Brief asting notes to follow...
2012-03-20 12:00:12 @BuffaloLou, hosting and downloading 2.76GB is not an easy task. Plus our friends at CW/WL will definitely
object to that idea. Sorting out the images, stuff, and comment is a job for me that I don't the time to undertake
right now.
~
Windows is not counterproductive, you may be too advanced or too demanding ;)
2012-03-20 12:09:06 "DotP" :lol:
I think we need to open an outreach clinic in Indiana, or whatever godforsaken place all you guys hang out in...
2012-03-20 12:31:41 @cbs - I was thinking something like a volume of split files (rar, hiJaak, etc.) so it wasn't directly readable w/o
joining. Then again, it could be in a directory that is not referenced; you'd have to be given the link to d/l.
Just a thought.
2012-03-20 12:43:30 @ptaylor 2112 Welcome to the insanity! Feel free to post often, and ask any questions. We're a crazy bunch, but
happy on our meds!
@AFK I want to order some shallots and garlic, too! It's been a real mild winter. Will they grow in large pots?
@mr21cbs I'm glad someone has the old musings and ramblings. Some of them were definitely priceless. I
started to capture some a while back but never managed to finish.
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2012-03-20 20:14:27 Major props to Flora Springs. Between the 2008 Trilogy Bordeaux blend and the 2009 Barrel fermented Chard,
I'm sold.
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2012-03-20 20:48:51 St. Stephen (Texarkana Version)
Sir AFK with a bulb,
in and out of the garden he goes,
country garlic in the wind on the plain,
wherever he blogs the winos will all pay.
AFK drank tequila with lime,
boy he does and he may recline.
Did it matter, does he plow?
AFK will take a chance as he needs to chow.
Shallots wrapped in golden ball,
he would answer in a southern drawl,
Bell peppers on feast day now and then,
AFK dressed for the market town and sower seeds and grain.
Lady Josie, dressed as Snow White,
writing "What for?" for a day in July.
Leaf blight, carry lancers,
undressed shrubs and bids the soufflé bye .
Trembling Hills, a place that matters,
we were all in shatters as CW had spurned,
several reasons for their treasons,
adapt you are wine lovers know, made it our own.
A quick, poor effort to create a tribute for AFK efforts...he is the poet...I headline at Minnie Ha Ha's
24245 mr21cbs
AFK best wishes with your new venture!!! Any chance you will be selling medicinal plants? Or opening a
Farmacy? I will buy even if no free shipping!
2012-03-20 22:14:58 @BuffaloLou, technologically it is not a problem. I have the resources to pull it off. However, judging by the past
reaction to much smaller issues I will avoid a stench. Here is what I will do... I will clean up my archive from
unnecessary stuff, post it on my private FTP server and will provide you with access credentials to download it.
Then you can do whatever you want in the privacy of your home. If you or anyone you know is coming to the
Philly Offline, I can burn a copy for you. Brooks will be getting his for that bottle of wine he promised :evil:
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2012-03-20 22:25:46 @AFK: best of luck to you AND, I will be staying far away from the Hills as post 20K approaches, with my luck,
Biscuit will run across the keyboard as MR21cbs prepares to hit "Submit Comment" for the much deserved 20K
milestone....................
David O'Reilly (Owen Roe) is in the Green Mountain State for the next few days so I will post any thoughts on his
latest releases.............plenty of great food and drink the next few days (and the 85 degree weather is a
bonus...when David was here this time last year, it was snowing)..........
On another note, we are taking a long overdue vacation (rare for us to go away for more than a day or two)....we
will be heading to visit some family in the Jacksonville, FL area and staying on Amelia Island............any inmates
familiar with that area ?
On yet another note, exchanged some emails with Karl "WhiteBurgundy" B recently............all is well
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24251 BuffaloLou
2012-03-20 22:28:41 I miss Mobius.
2012-03-20 23:03:38 @Brooks: I will be in your "neck of the woods" on 3/30.................be forewarned !
2012-03-20 23:04:51 @cbs - You know best, and TY, that is very kind of you! I won't be at the Philly off line, so I'll take you up on the
offer of the DL.
"my private FTP server" - Nice!
I notice Brooks' QPR sports FIBER. Just wondering is that gave the sale some, um, 'movement'? Hmmm... :lol:
@TO - looking forward to your notes on the Owen Roe! Sláinte!
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2012-03-21 00:50:11 @Sir Brooks ~ Sweet...........medicinal plants?..........sorry no weeds in my garden!
@NYPete ~ That goes without saying!
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2012-03-21 01:58:15 Hey guys. Was finally sunny here in San Diego. Rented a boat and cruised around the harbor at Coronado today.
The family had a blast. Watched some Navy Seals practice maneuvers, watched a harbor seal play around, and
toured the old Hotel del Coronado. Really love this city.
Tonight we finally got to the '90 Rauzan Segla which was drinking very, very nicely. VM 91+. We also had a '95
Silver Oak. It was enjoyable but I think it would be been better 3 to 5 years ago. VM 87.
Leave for San Luis Obispo in the morning. Will be driving up the coast.
2012-03-21 06:57:41 @Vinny My Bordeaux class is tonight. I printed out your thoughts on what we're tasting so we can compare with
our own palates. Thanks again for the insights. Will try to post my impressions in the next few days.
@cbs I would like to have access to the CW comments as well to try and finish what I had started a while back.
Muchas Gracias!
@NYP I miss Mobius, too! Wonder if he's busy living the rock star life?
24255 BrunelloBob
2012-03-21 07:49:29 T.O.: Just yesterday we booked a trip for May to Longboat Key (Tampa). There's an Anna Maria Island right next
to Longboat, for a second I thought you and I were going to the same place.
I was in Jacksonville a few months ago, but got nowhere near the water. Real "old Florida" feel to the area, which
I like.
Please report back re: Amelia Island: We're looking for "new" beach hang-outs to visit in Florida.
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2012-03-21 11:50:57 The Dudes on the Porch celebrated our 2 year anniversary on Saturday. Our theme was “Hit Me with Your Best
Shot.” This was by far our best DotP ever, and our most expensive. (Normally we are in the $12-$20 range.) The
wines were purchased in Indianapolis, Lafayette, Cinderella Wine, and direct from the winemaker. Any of them
would have been the “wine of the night” at a normal DotP event. Here are my tasting notes.
1. Joseph Drouhin 2005 Mersault ($45, Dude Howard) - A nice pleasant white to start the night, with a decent
amount of butter and acidity. My rating: 88
2. Ortman 2009 Sangiovese ($22, Dude Mike) - Too bad Ortman shut down their operations last December. This
Paso Robles Sangiovese was great to sip on its own, but was terrific with the mini-meatballs my wife made. It’s a
bit less “grapey/full-bodied” than traditional Sangiovese, but that meant it was also a little stripped down and
lithe. My rating: 89
3. Eberle 2007 Syrah, Steinbeck Vineyards ($24, Dude Howard) - Gary Eberle was the first man to plant Syrah in
California, and his Steinbeck Vineyards Syrah was not a stereotypical Cali Syrah. It was fruity, but not a fruit
bomb. It was nicely lower in alcohol than expected. It was earthy. It didn’t knock you over the head like a
stereotypical Cali Syrah, which made it very pleasant. My rating: 89
4. Barone Ricasoli Casalferro 2001 Toscana ($52, Dude Alex) - This Super Tuscan (Cab/Merlot) represented a
jump in complexity from the earlier wines. It had so much leather, but in an aged, supple, well-taken-care-of way.
As opposed to licking a suede jacket that’s been sitting out in the sun for the last 20 years. Very well made. My
rating: 91
5. Belle Vallee 2003 Rogue Valley Cabernet ($30, Dude Barry) - Dude Barry found this Oregon Cab hiding on the
top shelf of a second rate liquor store, where it must have been collecting dust for the last few years. It was so
smooth and plummy that it almost drank like Port! My rating: 91
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24261 David T
2012-03-21 12:05:29 @Patrick
The San Roman is the best.
2012-03-21 12:38:30 I'm only buyin' today's Cinderella offer 'cause I like the label. :P
2012-03-21 12:43:05 @ptaylor2112 Those are some nice notes!
:
If any of the Indiana/Illinois inmates do decide to get together in/near Indianapolis, let me know- if I'm free I will
make the trip. I would love to meet everyone and I have some friends from high school living there I am overdue
to visit.
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2012-03-21 12:49:17 Just ordered 3 of the '05 Zanzibar Sandra from CW and 3 of the '06 Zanzibar Sandra on the WL deal. Figured I'd
so some side by side tasting.
Interesting note: I checked on wine searcher pro and it appears CW/WL is the only one with the '05. Wonder if
these came from the winery on a clearance/promo deal?
2012-03-21 13:11:49 @Patrick - Eberle makes some excellent QPRs; His Cab is also quite nice.
The SRT is a big hit here and on the Forum. Fantastic wine.
2012-03-21 14:02:58 BB: Perhaps on your May trip to Longboat Key (West of Sarasota), you can make it to an offline or one of our
local tastings in St. Petersburg, which is between Tampa and Sarasota. LB Key and Anna Maria are NOT old time
Florida, but some of the Jacksonville beaches areas are still "oldish" in comparison. Some parts of the West
Coast, like off Englewood, Cape Haze, Manasota Key (South of Sarasota by about 40 minutes) are still pretty old
time.
A bunch of local winos get together every Saturday at 2:30 for a couple of hours of blind tasting at a restaurant
which provides good food, etc. for $10/ea and we each bring at least one bottle. Some of us with storage
problems bring 2-4 bottles. We establish a theme each week (Rhone, Provence, Europe, Old World, New World,
South of the Equator, etc., etc.. If you let me know when you are coming our way, perhaps you can make one of
our Sat. events. We are probably 45-50 minutes North of Longboat Key, 30 minutes or so of which is interstate
driving. If you just want to do a dinner at one of my no/low corkage favorite restaurants in St. Pete, we could do
that as well and perhaps get some others to join us. If you contact Mitch at thewinetobuy.com on Stickney Point
Rd or visit his website, he has some Sarasota area restaurants listed with their corkage fees. A few have no or
very low corkage, and he can tell you the ones he likes. His store is probably 15-20 minutes South (via
2012-03-21 14:05:08 BrunelloBob, I couldn't ignore the CW label either, and since the old deal for the 2006 Zanzibar Sandra Red for
$17.98 was still valid, just like BuffaloLou went for 3 of each. I do like Washington State full body reds, and these
bottles will make good candle holders after they are empty.
2012-03-21 14:46:10 @Mags: Thanks for the info and the invite!
This is a quick-hit trip (3-4 nights) for me and the beautiful Mrs. BBob. We're looking to sit on the beach all day
and gaze into each other's eyes across candlelit dinners (or beer soaked bartops) at night. I'd love to meet you
guys and do a tasting but, frankly, I think the Mrs. is scared of my "internet friends" :lol:
At any rate, a tasting wouldn't really be her "thing" and I really don't want to blow her off for an
afternoon/evening on such a short trip. Sorry, and Thanks again.
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2012-03-21 15:09:19 mr21cbs - I was on the fence about ordering a few of the 2006's. Your observation on the label put m eover the
top.
BTW - the 2005 is sold out. That was a very good deal for Horse Heaven Hills juice.
@JO - Are you sure it's from HHH? I can only find that it's Columbia Valley.
@BL
yep, according to wine spectator on-line.
.
Today was the warmest March day in Buffalo since they've been recording temps at the NWS. Gorgeous evening
tonight, too!
table for 4 tomorrow night at www.henofthewood.com : Mr and Mrs. TonyO and Mr and Mrs. David
O'Reilly.........yup, life is real good ........sometimes I just have to stop and say Thank You for moments like
this..............and by the way, the latest release of Owen Roe Yakima Red and Ex Umbris are stellar......
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24269 john o'
2012-03-21 15:24:19
2012-03-21 16:07:03
24274 BuffaloLou
2012-03-21 21:51:47
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2012-03-21 22:22:53
24276 vinmoet
2012-03-21 22:30:27 Am in San Luis Obispo...Paso Robles country. Did the Getty near Malibu earlier today. Going to a restaurant
which features local wines http://www.novorestaurant.com/
Tomorrow we go horseback riding on the beach. Just what will cure my hangover.....
24281 BrunelloBob
24282 wine magnet
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24285 TonyO
WinM: Curious to see how off base I am. Have fun. Love events like that!
2012-03-22 11:51:04 @TO.: You buyin' dinner, O' Reilly bringin' the wine?
2012-03-22 12:26:43 Vinny: Sorry I didn't know you were considering the Getty Villa tour. My sister lives close by and has been a
docent/volunteer there for at least 25-30 years, and might have even been your guide, if you had one. It was
closed for several years while they did a major renovation, and is really nice now, especially if you are interested
in antiquities, which are featured at the Villa. The huge Getty complex by the 405 has the contemporary art for
the most part and is more than a day long visit. Both are a testament to an eccentric billionaire who wanted to
share his art with the public by making these magnificent collections free of admission charges.
2012-03-22 14:50:42 Happy, Happy Day! My case of Kaella Rose' arrived today! One is already chilling in the fridge. Can't wait a month
to try this out, travel shock be damned!
2012-03-22 16:24:30 OK, now I know we have to schedule another NC Cindy event.
2012-03-22 17:42:18 Dinner and wine on David (based on my excessive purchases of his wines I'm sure...ha ha)....should be a great
night at a great restaurant (Eric the chef owner is a finalist for the James Beard Award this year). I will share any
events worth posting ! Cheers !
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2012-03-22 17:57:28 thanks for the happy wishes Ludds and all. I am old.
Dulcamara is just meh for an all-bord grape Supertuscan, lets see how it does after an overnight rest. A dab of
Sangio always helps imho.
Had an OUTSTANDING Dettori Bianco Badde Nigolosu (Vermentino) for the big bday dinner at La CIccia in SF (a
sardinian restaurant, so why not a sardinian wine!)
A wild "orange style" wine that stood up to pasta with tomato sauce, meat, fish, salume and all sorts of things... I
will have to track more down.
It looked like unfiltered apple juice, and was a bit odd at first (you gotta believe)... then it kept morphing in the
glass 3-4 times over the 2hrs we had it. Fantastic experience.
Nerd wine for sure.
2012-03-22 20:08:57 So I only get invited when I've got wine for at least one of the NC Winos? I see how you are now... ;-)
OBTW, your wine is here...
24289 BrunelloBob
24291 louas
24292 jpakma
2012-03-22 21:15:05 @DT: "No CT Link" ;)
2012-03-22 23:39:06 Feeling some Badger pain tonite. So close, so very close.
2012-03-23 00:27:15 That was the worst possession / shot you wanted just down 1 with 15 sec to go. Credit to the Orange for creating
havoc in the zone. At least OSU represented the B1G. I need all of you rooting for the Hoosiers vs. KY.
@vinmoet sorry to hear that Shaka Smart turned downthe UI job. Thought he was a good fit for the B1G. I like his
style of play.
For those of you that haven't tried yet the Copain Les Voisin wines are really great QPR wines. Just finished the
'09 Syrah. Both the Pinot and Syrah are great value.
GO HOOSIERS beat Kentucky!
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2012-03-23 00:27:42 That was the worst possession / shot you wanted just down 1 with 15 sec to go. Credit to the Orange for creating
havoc in the zone. At least OSU represented the B1G. I need all of you rooting for the Hoosiers vs. KY.
@vinmoet sorry to hear that Shaka Smart turned down the UI job. Thought he was a good fit for the B1G. I like
his style of play.
For those of you that haven't tried yet the Copain Les Voisin wines are really great QPR wines. Just finished the
'09 Syrah. Both the Pinot and Syrah are great value.
GO HOOSIERS beat Kentucky!
24295 NaH
2012-03-23 05:20:23 @BDude RE Dulcamara
Which vintage were you referring to? I have the 06 and rated it 80. I wrote "too bad I have 2 more of these,
guess I'll be braising some meat with them."
2012-03-23 06:05:30 Happy Birthday, DavidT! Hope you pop something incredible tonight!
24298 luddite
2012-03-23 07:46:18 Happy Birthday to my fellow Buckeye fan. Enjoy your day!!
24299 john o'
@jpakma: You got it. GO HOOSIERS!!
2012-03-23 08:36:50 In Boston, now until Sunday
The Badgers making 14 of 26 trey’s was our nightmare scenario, and we still won. Aside from 2 or 3 ball reversals
and a couple of drive and kicks to #40 at the top of the key, they were long range with a man in their grill. With
only 2 losses, we’ve found a way to get it done all year.
Craft was a treat to watch. An incredible on ball defender. 6 steals, an OSU tourney record. I hope we negate
that with 3 interchangeable guards. Craft can’t cover them all.
OSU is favored by 2, and it’s hard to argue that, particularly as we are sans Fab Melo. We’ve been
underestimated ever since we lost to ND and I’m looking fwd to a war Saturday.
Oy a tonight for their sushi / sake tasting menu. Very, very pricey, but I’m told it’s not to be missed.
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2012-03-23 09:39:47 @DavidT - Happy Bday! Hope you have a great day!
Had some friends over last night. Most drink wine, but aren't 'into' wine the way most here are. So I popped
some Cabs and one Malbec:
2006 Soos Creek Artist's Series Cab, Columbia Valley, WA - Really singing now. Consistant results with prior
tastings.
2006 Baer Ursa, Columbia Valley, WA - As above, really singing now. Consistant results with prior tastings.
2003 Joseph Phelps Cab, Napa - Wow, this was fantastic! Didn't take notes, but glad I popped it!
2009 Ocaso Malbec, Mendoza, Argentina - I've opened the 'Reserva' before. The Reserva is a little better, but
this is the killer deal at $12!
Good time with good friends and good wine.
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24305 TonyO
2012-03-23 14:54:31 @Louas: feel your pain but Bucky did us proud. Watch out for the Badgers next year, BT!
2012-03-23 17:44:35 Last night:
Food:
Cripsy Oysters w/ horseradish aioli, fried lemon and parsley
Sheep's milk Dumplings with roasted Cipollini onions, Black trumpet Mushrooms,and Pine Nuts
Hen of the Woods Mushrooms, House Cured Bacon, and Poached Egg over grilled bread
Grilled Rabbit loin and Leg with braised red cabbage
Wine:
2009 A et P de Villaine, Aligote, Bouzeron
2007 Julien Guillot, Pinot Noir, Cruzille, Burgundy
24306 BaroloDude
A great for the Mr and Mrs. TonyO and Mr and Mrs. O'Reilly..........incredibly nice folks making world class wines
in Washington and Oregon......
2012-03-23 17:50:32 @ NaH 07 Dulcamara... it was a little better the second day. I think it just needs a bit more age. Not my style
right now... very very drying on the mouth too.
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2012-03-23 18:17:12 I think I just scored that Sancerre that was on Last Bottle a month or so ago (paired with a rose'?). $8/bottle.
I had reservations when it first came up re: the age (2007) but someone on here (John O?) ordered it and said it
was fine. It better be, or I'll find him and....
x
OK, I admit I am finally jelous of TonyO' yankee. NICE meal!
24308 mr21cbs
2012-03-23 19:01:46 BrunelloBob, I bought the Rose/Sancerre deal from LBW as well. FWIW, I did like the Sancerre a lot. Rose... not so
much. Drinkable but I feel that I paid $10/btl for the Sancerre. You got a decent deal on very drinkable white.
Feel free to find me if you don't like it ;)
2012-03-23 20:00:16 March 23rd - now the earliest date for a campfire for the BLou family!
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2012-03-23 20:53:50
24312 BuffaloLou
2012-03-23 21:53:21
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24314 David T
2012-03-23 22:19:09
2012-03-23 22:23:44
Campfire. Bottle of red. Nice breeze. Ahhhh...
The Kommander is also enjoying some r&r around the fire pit with the staff. Like Lieutenant lou this is the
earliest campfire on record.
For the record, the Kommander is unsure whether the oak fueled fire or the new ipad is keeping the
Kommanders krotch warm tonight.
enjoying a 2001 phelps insignia
to celebrate this night.
Kaos out
@kaos - very nice choice on your beverage for the night! Nice to hear someone else is enjoying a "kampfire"!
WTG!
@Blou: March 21; earliest day for AC to be turned on at Casa de TonyO !
@all Thanks for the b-day wishes! Started out with a meh Italian sparkler (a VSQPRD made of pinot nero from the
Oltrepo Pavese DOC which I think is a new one for me) followed by the 08 Clio which is very young but already
quite nice.
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2012-03-23 23:31:27 Bdude et. al.:
In Frisco right now. Did Cotogna for dinner tonight. Everything you'd hope to have in a restaurant. Laid back
attitude, limited choices, perfect execution. Italian with a Cali bent. Lots of Italian wine... but I'm in Cali...want
"old world" Cali which, IMHO is its future. Two wines:
Mount Eden Vineyard '07 "estate" Cabernet. The best Cali wine I have ever tasted. Found its terroir. No reverse
osmosis garbage here. 92VM.
Mount Eden Vineyard '08 "Domaine Eden" Cabernet. Very solid stuff...comparable to Ridge but not quite. 89VM.
Have spoiled Mrs. V, but she said these are the first Cali wines that she really really liked.
Food was fantastic. Gnocchi was so so. That said, Tortellini w/ asparagus simple but awesome. Same for pork
belly with roasted quail. Crazy good wood fired pizza times two (so good, we ordered another). Petrale sole
perfect. Deserts perfect.
Spend some jack, but worth it.
Last night, more boring. China town with Pekin duck and beer. Very, very good.
Lunch today Tony's Pizza in North Beach. Coal fired east coast pizza on the west coast. Wins all kind of awards
everywhere. We liked it... not sure we understand the awards. Maybe because we had no wine?
Oh, well, life is rough. Thanks for the recommendation!!!! Really paid off. Leave for home tomorrow.
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24320 BrunelloBob
Ciao from Cali.
2012-03-24 07:41:02 @CBS: Sorry for the mis-identification. Thanks again for the input on the Sancerre. Without the positive
comments on here, I wouldn't have bought, and would have missed a great deal. Hard to get bargains on
Sancerre...
2012-03-24 07:53:59 Vinny's turnin' this place into "Tripadvisor" :lol:
(Keep it up, I love travelling vicariously. Tripadvisor's forums are some of the Best resources on the internet)
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2012-03-24 08:14:53 Kommander, et al. Viewing and posting comments from my new iPad. Very nice piece of hardware! If any of you
would indulge me with your recommendations for apps, I would greatly appreciate that.
Oh BTW, with the spring in full bloom we need white wine QPR recommendations.
24323 BuffaloLou
2012-03-24 10:07:47 Associated Press, Cleveland - An 'Inmate" has been charged with infanticide after allegedly consuming a bottle of
2008 Clio. "It was horrific, seeing one so young, so innocent... " reported Detective Brooks, "... it's cork, still firm
and with minimal staining, was lying on the table. Not a drop remained. It was terrible."
The alleged perpetrator, one David T, has cited his innocence claiming the wine was calling him, taunting and
teasing him.
Sources tell us that the Inmate knew the victim was still 'very young' yet knowingly committed this heinous crime.
It is believed that David T will be represented by his cousin Vinny.
More as events unfold...
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24325 TonyO
2012-03-24 11:11:49 I don't understand at best
I cannot speak for all the rest
In the morning rise a lifetime's passed me by
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=C8CHHsbCpP4
2012-03-24 11:15:49 Australia seems to be fueling to market for HUGE wine (Molly Dooker..............),while many wines in CA,WA, OR
are reacting by showing a more refined style...not the mass market stuff, but the owner/winemaker driven
wineries that have pride in what they bring to market (and their table)..........bigger isn't always better (TWSS),
but I think the days of Syrah tasting like Smucker's Blackberry jam are winding down............most of my local
"wine friends" prefer French/Italian wines while I am the "patriot" in the group.............when we blind taste I try
to focus on CA/WA/OR wines that are varietally correct and speak to area which they were sourced (and I do
throw a few curveballs by sneaking in an occassional BdM, CdP, CdR, etc.) ..........at the same time, I have learned
that there are certain styles/terroirs/varietals that I simply do not enjoy (Sav Blanc from New Zealand, high
elevation Italian Syrah, most inexpensive Barolos, and very vegetal French Cab Francs to name a few)
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2012-03-24 18:30:02 Figures. I love Marlborough S.B. :lol: (the "gin and tonic" of wine)
(OK, Full disclosure: I do dislike cold weather syrah and almost anything vegetal. Cheap Barolo can be OK, as long
as you don't compare it to "real" Barolo)
2012-03-24 23:21:25 After a L-O-N-G day yesterday and a L-O-N-G-E-R day today, tonight it's a "La Trappe" Tripel. Delicious! I'd love
to find this on tap somewhere...
2012-03-25 09:14:54 @BB: it's our differences that keep it interesting ! I have had some SB from New Zealand that I liked, but they
were atypical (it's that extreme tart/super grassy style that I dislike). Last night I paired my favorite SB, John
Anthony (Napa) with some gulf shrimp sauteed with
butter/garlic/madeira/vermouth/tomatoes/asparagus/lemon served over risotto finished with a great locally
made ricotta......NAILED IT ! (picture on facebook).....opened up a 2010 Seghesio Zin (Sonoma).....better with
some air, this one may need a few months to settle down or decant it to get it to open up if you have
any.........once it does, it proves how great Seghesio is at making Zin, especially in the $20 and under range
24337 luddite
2012-03-25 11:08:27 This seems to be the inmates NZ SB of choice:
24338 David T
2012-03-25 12:01:23 @BLou ROTFLMAO!!!!
24339 luddite
@Luddite: +1 on that SB rec. O-H!!
2012-03-25 12:38:36 @David T: I-O!!
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2012-03-25 12:53:44 OK. I'm back. Crazy beautiful weather here in the Midwest. Spring about a month ahead of schedule. Cali had
some pretty crappy weather but it was an outstanding vacation.
Yesterday, we had breakfast on the way to the airport. For $10 kids got a prix fixe menu which included mixed
fresh fruit plate followed by french toast (made from french bread) and an ice cream dessert. I had a three
cheese omelet with fresh herbs and Mrs. V had eggs cooked in balsamic vinegar. All were performed at a very,
very high level. Fresh silverware with each course and very attentive staff. Funky, trendy, modern, urban Cali
kitchen. Would like to try for dinner later: http://www.foreigncinema.com/ Big VM thumbs up but not for
everyday. Pretty eclectic wine menu...check it out.
24342 John O'
2012-03-25 16:42:25 popped a 2000 Giorgio Primo Chianti Classico (before they made it a Super Tuscan). Cork smells gorgeous.
Giving it some time to come back to life.
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2012-03-25 17:00:07 @cbs here are a couple of apps that I think are must haves. Flipboard, Bloomberg, TuneIn Radio, Pandora, Kayak
HD, and of course Netflix. I do also use the Pages, Keynote, and Numbers suite quite a lot too.
@vinny welcome home and yes the weather here in The Midwest has been outstanding.
@luddite congrats to the Buckeyes and the Supernatural SB was a little gimmicky to me but I enjoyed my first
bottle ~89. Just packed my last bottle for my Spring Break trip to the panhandle of FL.
Took my daughter last eve to out church's Father-Daughter dance. What fun we had together, dinner at
Cheesecake Factory, the dance, and then a post-dance ice cream at our local Ritters. When I got home I finished
the last of my 2010 Orin Swift Abstract, which I have to say I found extremely disappointing and very one
dimensional.
Finishing up dinner prep - Korean Beef, Rice, Snow Peas and grilled Pineapple. I hope everyone had a great
weekend!
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2012-03-25 18:04:48 I did a little research on the Mount Eden Vineyard "Estate". Guess I'm not the only one who liked it:
98 pts. Wine & Spirits: October 1, 2011
"Open every stop on your cabernet church organ: Pure cassis. Mountain freshness. Baking spice. The pencil lead
of Graves in that less-than-overripe varietal character. This is unadulterated cabernet pleasure, three words that
have never come together in my mind before. Grown at an elevation of 1,800 feet, 14 miles from the coast, this
vineyard traces its heritage back to Chateau Margaux, where Emmett Rixford selected cuttings for La Questa in
the 1890s. Martin Ray propagated cuttings from those vines to plant Mount Eden in the 1940s, replanted in the
1980s with a selection from Ray’s vines. Between the cool site, the exceptional vintage and the pedigree of the
vines, this is a true California classic."
93 pts. Stephen Tanzer’s International Wine Cellar: May/Jun 2011 "Bright ruby. Seductive aromas of red- and
blackcurrant, singed plum, mocha and minerals, with a smoky overtone. Sappy and smooth in the mouth, with a
compelling sweetness to its layered dark berry and cherry flavors. Deep but very energetic, with Pauillac-like iron
and tobacco notes and building floral character. The finish is gently tannic, sweet and extremely long. There’s
14% merlot and 1.5% each of cabernet franc and petit verdot in here."
24346 NaH
91 pts. Robert Parker’s The Wine Advocate: August, 2011
"The Mount Eden 2007 Cabernet Sauvignon Estate possesses a solid core of dark red fruit supported by firm yet
well-integrated tannins. It is a typical mountain vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon that needs time in the bottle to
come together. The finish is sweet and inviting. The blend is 83% Cabernet Sauvignon, 14% Merlot and 1.5% each
Cabernet Franc and Petit Verdot. Anticipated maturity: 2014–2022."
2012-03-25 18:46:21 So proud of my 11 year old daughter!
While I drank the 15th Edition Sokol Blosser Evolution with dinner, I gave her my glass to sample.
She did a perfect swirl, performed a proper sniffy snif and proceeded to tell me she smelled pineapple and
peaches.
24347 BrunelloBob
I love her so much!! LOL
2012-03-25 19:34:35 @Nah: Maybe she can teach me how to do that "perfect swirl", I Still don't have it figured out...
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2012-03-25 19:46:22 @vinmoet - Binny's carries the Mount Eden Chard (Edna Valley). Perhaps they can get the Cab.
@jpakma - I, too, went to a Father-Daughter dance with my 7 yr old. I hadn't given it much thought until my wife
mentioned she still remembers going to one with her dad. We made it a double-date with a friend of hers. It was
great!
24349 David T
24350 BuffaloLou
@everyone - I opened the Donatiello 2008 Floodgate Vineyard Russian River Valley ($25 on Cindy) on Friday
night. I can safely say it was worth it. The wine was disjointed at the intial pop, with a bit too much acid and an
odd finish. Dude Howard suggested we put it in the fridge for about 10 minutes, and that did the trick. The
mouthfeel improved dramatically, the acidity was more balanced, and the finish improved. It was lighter than I
would have expected for a Cali Pinot, which was a pleasant surprise. We drank the whole thing over the course of
an hour, so I don't know how it would do on the 2nd day. (Funny how that always happens to me.) My rating: 8990.
2012-03-25 20:31:17 @NaH I can relate- Mrs DT probably drinks about as much wine as your daughter, but every time she does and I
ask her what she thinks, the flavors she mentions are always exactly the same if not as in depth as mine, even
without me saying anything first- i.e. she will pick out peaches & vanilla but doesn't go so far as the acidity
level/finish length. Still makes me happy as she is educating her palate & drinking a little something :)
2012-03-25 20:52:59 @DT - Had an interesting day and night. Just couldn't sleep last night and had some intestinal issues. Finally fell
asleep in the wee hours of the AM. When I woke in the morning, I was having difficulty swallowing and breathing
through my mouth. I knew something was wrong. Looked in the mirror and saw that my uvula was swollen so
greatly that it was interfering with my tongue! Knew this had to be some sort of allergic reaction, but didn't
know from what. Went to the ER as I didn't want to see what happened if the swelling continued...
Long story short, I had angioneurotic edema. Dr said it was a reaction to the lisinopril. I've only been on it since
3/6, and it never occurred to me that it was going to be the problem. So after a course of Medrol, Benadryl, and
Epinephrine, and some observation, I was sent home. Dr said it wasn't common, but does happen. (Said most
common side effect was a cough.) Said I was a mild case. Anyway, off the lisinopril for now. Gave me something
to get me buy until I see my GP.
24351 mr21cbs
The scary part was 'what if I was camping, ignored it, and took the lisinopril the next night?' Oh well, turned out
alright.
2012-03-25 21:26:19 @jpakma, thank you for the recommendations. Flipboard looks very promising. I do use Bloomberg, Kayak, and
Pandora. Will give the TuneIn Radio a shot. Not sure whether to stick with the Apple products from the iWork
collection or go for QuickOffice. I have a list of apps that some of my savvy co-workers are using, I can share if
you are interested.
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2012-03-25 21:48:40
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=534759" rel="nofollow">2006 Rosenblum Cellars
Petite Sirah Pickett Road Vineyard</a> - USA, California, Napa Valley (3/25/2012)
Consumed with consistent results. Beautiful wine; wish I had more! (See below.)(93 points)
Petite Sirah Pickett Road Vineyard</a> - USA, California, Napa Valley (7/10/2011)
An order of magnitude above the "Heritage Clones" Petite Sirah, this wine is very rich, huge fruit with loads of
blackberry and blueberry. Glycerin-like on the palate. Fills the mouth with fruit and richness. Full-bodied. Drinking
very well now. Color is opaque purple-black. It might benefit with more cellaring with additional levels of
complexity, but it's drinking so well right now, why wait? Will probably benefit with a little decanting. 14.8%
alcohol is a touch hot on the tip of the tongue. Almost didn't notice it. Terrific effort. (93 points)
24354 David T
2012-03-25 23:51:35 @BLou Glad everything's resolving- I'm too tired to type anything up in depth tonight but I will email you more
info tomorrow.
:
I managed to get both my federal and local tax returns completed and filed tonight leaving just the state to
complete this week... and scheduled payment for the four-figure sum I owe Uncle Sam- taxes suck...
24356 luddite
2012-03-26 08:20:09 @BLou: Glad everything is OK! Thanks for posting this as I'm also taking Lisinopril (1/2 20-25 MG tab) for high
blood pressure. Had heard about the dry cough but not about this! Would appreciate you sharing any info
@David T provides...
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2012-03-26 10:47:22 Interesting offer on WTSO:
Silver Oak Cellars
Napa Valley
Cabernet Sauvignon 2007
& Sonoma Cutrer Vineyards
Russian River Valley
Pinot Noir 2008
2 Pack Special!
$99.99
24359 ptaylor2112
24360 BuffaloLou
I'm not saying it's a "good" offer, but I don't remember them doing "packs" before...
2012-03-26 11:06:38 @BLou - I've requested WTSO do packs on more than one occasion. Glad to hear they are trying it out, albeit not
in the price range I had suggested.
2012-03-26 11:39:28 @DT & Luddite - TY!
@Luddite - One of the things the dr told me is that people that take lisinopril can have this reaction at any time;
sometimes years after starting it! Of course, many/most do not have such a reaction. Just keep it in mind.
24361 louas
24362 BrunelloBob
24363 BrunelloBob
2012-03-26 13:12:13 No laughing. Please help me upload a photo into the comment section. Thanks
2012-03-26 14:47:27 WOW
Serious Barolo 2 pack now on WTSO:
Poderi Aldo Conterno
Cicala Barolo
2006 and 2007
2 Pack!
$169.99
I was recently thinking WTSO has kinda sucked lately but...
The Vac. they had up earlier looked pretty good too...
2012-03-26 15:03:11 I am soooooo trying not to buy that barolo...
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2012-03-26 15:04:57 Welcome back, Vin (although you didn't need to bring back some of this yucky California weather with you!).
As you suggested, had been keeping my eye on the 2009 Bordeaux sales. Gary has one up right now on his
website, a Chateau Haut Brisson La Reserve, Saint-Emilion Grand Cru for $49.99 . Your thoughts?
24366 BaroloDude
2012-03-26 15:11:40 ditto re the barolo deal .
quite a nice price.
On winesearcher, the best price for 06 and 07 combined is >230bucks... so that is
But i have been trying really hard to put up just ONE "clean sheet" on the cc bill to prove to me and my wife i can
do it!
Trying....hard... to.....fight......arrrgghhhhhhh
Vinnymo... glad you enjoyed Cotogna. Next time i recommend La Ciccia (sardinian cuisine, great wine list, good
prices relatively speaking)... i cannot explain the weather... its been the driest winter i can remember, and the
rain came out big time just in time for you... sorry chap. but we need the rain and snow right now or it will be
drought for us.
24367 BrunelloBob
24368 Hinrgman
24369 luddite
2012-03-26 15:42:09
2012-03-26 15:47:34
2012-03-26 15:54:53
24371 BrunelloBob
2012-03-26 15:59:07
Looks like the Mt Eden secret is out. ;-) Just up the mountain from Castello and I (i think!).... one day i hope to
visit...
I have ENOUGH nebbiolo dammit
B² - Aldo Conterno nebbiolo????
And WTSO Platinum has a nice deal on the '04 Tua Rita Giusto di Notri Toscana (for a lower price than when it
was on CW)...
you people are drug pushers...
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2012-03-26 17:17:30 McMal: Do you mean WL? They have this https://winelibrary.com/products/59905-07-chateau-haut-brisson-lareserve which is an '07 for $30. That wine I'd stay a way from, period. I might buy it for cooking at $15.
At $50 it must be some other vintage. "La Reserve" was a GV gimmick which is considered a jaw dropper and a
joke by any serious Bordeaux buyer. I think you can ignore the La Reserve on the label and just judge the wine by
the Chateau and vintage. If its the '06, you are in safer territory but I would want to buy it for $30 or less. At $50
you can find GREAT wines from '09.
If you can give me more detail I could be more helpful...
24373 luddite
24374 BaroloDude
24375 BaroloDude
2012-03-26 17:34:07 @vinny: Welcome back! @McMal was asking about the '09...
http://www.garyswine.com/fine_wine/france/17914.html
2012-03-26 18:01:17 phew, next TSO deal up, PAC Barolo gone, survived without a purchase.
Now, if it comes back next month, as so many of their deals do....
2012-03-26 18:02:38 dare i ask what the heck "WTSO Platinum" is? do i want to know the answer?
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2012-03-26 18:10:47 I've never been a big fan of this Chateau. That said, WA95, is an eye catcher. Suspect this is a pretty big fruit
forward wine. If you are a fan of this style, this seems like a solid deal. I personally will not be buying it. Not
sure who is at the bottom of the "La Reserve" this time.
Here are Parker's complete notes:
"Wine Advocate #199
Feb 2012 Robert Parker 95 Drink: 2017 - 2030 $75 (80)
The limited production 2009 Haut-Brisson Reserve ratchets up everything, from the color (inky purple) to the
aromatics, flavor profile, and long, full-bodied finish. This is a brilliant St.-Emilion that tastes like it came from one
of the great terroirs on the St. Emilion plateau. It is also structured and unevolved, and will benefit from 5-7 years
of cellaring. Anticipated maturity: 2017-2030.
This Chinese-owned estate (Elaine Kwok) has made their two best wines to date. I have liked these wines in the
past, and these 2009s are quite an accomplishment, coming from a terroir that is not considered one of the
better ones in St.-Emilion, sitting just adjacent to that of Jonathan Maltus’ Chateau Teyssier."
24377 Hinrgman
"Wine Advocate #188
Apr 2010 Robert Parker (89-92) Drink: 2013 - 2028 $75
The more tannic, structured, and denser 2009 La Reserve is more of a long-term proposition. It is neither as
charming nor fruit-forward as the regular cuvee, and therefore cellaring of 3-4 years is recommended. It’s
2012-03-26 18:25:26 Wow! 20,000 coming up quick. Amazing!
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2012-03-26 18:40:55 @BrunelloBob:
Welcome to Platinum! (BETA)
Platinum is an invitation-only, exclusive VIP section of WTSO. It is here that our top clientele will have access to
more interesting, often higher caliber, lower quantity private wine selections at 20-70% off retail prices.
The format of Platinum will be the same as our Main site; one wine will be sold at a time until it is sold out. We
may have one item only or we may have multiple items offered. We will do our best to have enough inventory
to accommodate our customers spread throughout the country.
Platinum will be open Mondays, Thursdays, and Saturdays starting at 1pm on the East Coast and it will remain
open until we sell out or 11:59pm whichever is first. We may offer one or more items depending on recent finds
and inventory and we will aim to have enough product to last through the late evening to accommodate
customers on both coasts of the U.S.
You, as a designated Platinum Member, will be allowed access to this club through your account. You must signin to your WTSO account in order to gain access to Platinum. Non-Platinum customers and Platinum customers
who have not logged in to their account, will not have access nor will they be able to see that portion of the
website.
There will be no emails or Facebook posts about our Platinum deals. However, we have set up a Twitter
Notification feed at twitter.com/WTSOplatinum. Please sign up with Twitter to receive this notification. You
may also register your phone with Twitter and receive this notification via SMS text. This feed wll tell you only
when a new item is live on Platinum but it will not tell you what that item is. You must login to your account to
see the product.
24379 mr21cbs
24380 mcmalbec
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2012-03-26 18:44:05 Hinrgman,
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I
will grab it, archive it and send everyone a personalized copy for your records. Feel free to drop me an email with
your contact details if it is obscured in your sign-in. This place would never be the same without each and
everyone of you!
2012-03-26 18:50:18 @vin: it was a 2009. I will try to give you a link from my BB:
http://GarysWine.us1.listmanage.com/track/click?u=214cf64ce2f306a25adcd55a9&id=fe4b284679&e=1f39f442c2
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2012-03-26 18:50:24 LET THE BOGARTING BEGIN!
24382 BaroloDude
19976
2012-03-26 18:51:02 doh
24383 BaroloDude
24384 David T
24385 BuffaloLou
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2012-03-26 18:52:05 so i haven't been invited to Platinum WTSO? That's probably a good sign and a good thing at this point of way
overcapacity in the cellar....
19979
2012-03-26 19:08:40 @luddite I just emailed Lou & he can forward my email if you would like. Short story is angioedema is a rare
side effect of lisinopril (all ACE-inhibitors for that matter) that involves facial swelling, usually the lips/tongue. It's
most common in the first day to first few weeks after starting the med. Very, very rare but case reports of it
occurring years down the road have been published. Of course you also have docs occasionally blame any
swelling on the med to a fault of failing to rule out any other causes, but in Lou's case I think they were right for a
number of reasons. You are correct dry cough is by far the most common side effect and in your case my
recommendation is if it ain't broke don't fix it, but like Lou said it's something to keep tucked away in the back of
your mind.
:
For everyone here, I'm always available and happy to answer any med questions/concerns including via email if
you'd rather not post things publicly... dctietz at yahoo
2012-03-26 19:17:10 Something tells me we won't see or hear from TonyO until tomorrow... :lol:
Tonight: '99 Araujo Eisele Vineyard Syrah - This is killer juice! First sips 5 min after pnp, and it's still surprisingly
youthful, showing typical Cali Syrah flavors with layers of secondary and tertiary flavors.
24387 ny pete
24388 TonyO
2012-03-26 20:15:21 I still miss Mobius.
2012-03-26 20:16:14 I am sweating as I type this thinking someone is unleasing 18 posts and I will forever be know as the
%&^*(&()* that bogarted 20K.....so, with that said, here is my final post until the milestone has been
met:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT4nTq4htu8
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24392 Pats-Pwr
24394 A Frayed Knot
24396 brooks
24397 A Frayed Knot
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2012-03-26 21:36:10 Def worth checking out Gargiste tonight, FX Pichler is worth the price of admission. Even after what I spend this
weekend.
X19984
2012-03-26 21:39:19 AFK, if you are lurking in between building your new web site and enjoying that garlic aroma, come over and do
the honors of grabbing the honorary 20,000th post.
2012-03-26 22:26:34 Thanks to Brooks for the great QPR recommendation currently posted. I have tried it myself and it is a personal
favorite of Mrs. Pats-Pwr. :-)
Wow, The Hills is approaching 20,000 posts. Tomorrow will be a big day and I will have to keep an eye on the
blog to see if AFK claims the honorary spot. Just 14 more to go.
2012-03-26 23:32:45 I vote we give the 20k post to Sir Brooks, after all, the asylum known as Trembling Hills came from his Havens
saturated brain............come on Brooks...........light this roman candle!!
2012-03-27 00:00:47 If drafted, I will not run; if nominated, I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve. Mr. Moderator I yield my
unused post to mrcbs21. I bogarted TH name, I am not going to bogart 20,0000 posts under the influence. Say
good night captain.
2012-03-27 00:04:06 mr21cbs it is!!!!
for the record.............I Ain't The One!
24398 BuffaloLou
24400 castello
24403
24404
24405
24406
24408
BrunelloBob
BrunelloBob
BrunelloBob
Hinrgman
David T
24409 johnr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIdRFEVS0QU
2012-03-27 00:09:09 @AFK - Great song, even greater band. I should be safe with this post, but I'll do a "refresh" first... :)
2012-03-27 03:03:05 I could Bogart 10 more late night posts but I'll leave it for AFKMR21.
Drink More Merlowww!!!
2012-03-27 06:28:47 Castelloooooooo!
2012-03-27 06:29:39 We should have a commemorative wristband...(with FREE shipping)
2012-03-27 06:30:23 That's it, I'm done, 6 to go. :)
2012-03-27 07:47:42 Good morning everyone. CU after 20K.
2012-03-27 08:08:41 Good morning! I'll bimp it one closer then I'm out too. 19,996, <5 to the next great milestone! Many thanks
again to AFK for building the asylum & MR21CBS as the COO!
2012-03-27 08:31:05 See you on the flip side
19997
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2012-03-27 09:13:39 Thank you All for the offer, but I will respectfully decline. As DavidT postulated, I am just a Chief Bottle Washer
around here, a parasite that gains enormous knowledge, experience and entertainment from all of you.
~
Perhaps we can expect some of our Lady friends to make an appearance to grab the headlines.
~
As always, if any of our wine vendor friends want to drop by and commemorate this milestone with a special
offer, we would be delighted.
~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQLGhPHzxjc
~
19998
24411 ptaylor2112
24412 mr21cbs
2012-03-27 09:37:53 Tonight we're gonna party like it's 19999.
2012-03-27 11:45:25 Congratulations to everyone for achieving 20,000 posts!
Of course we couldn't have done it without AFK, so kudo's to him and whom ever was around him at the time to
inspire creation of this blog.
Special thanks to those who contributed so much of their wine knowledge, life experience (music, film, travel,
sport), and of course unlimited entertainment!
Kindest words go out to those who are no longer here. Hopefully they lurk. This place would love to have you
back!
I am truly touched, humbled and privileged to be a part of this community!
Thank you! Спасибо! Merci! Grazie! Danke! Obrigado! Gracias!
~
What will you drink tonight to celebrate?
2012-03-27 11:51:28 Whoo Hoo! Congrats! Party time!
24413 BuffaloLou
24414 louas
I was getting concerned there... If cbs didn't post, how long would we have to wait?! :lol:
2012-03-27 12:40:30 @mr21cbs:
1. to celebrate 20K and Ms. Louas' 60th b-day we will enjoy a bottle of Nicholas Cole Cellars 2006 Estate Reserve
Walla Walla Vallet Red Wine (60% Cab, 25% Cab Franc, 10% Merlot, 5% Petit Verdot)
2. My e-mail is [email protected] could you guide me how to post a photo in the comments section from
Picassa?
Or from another file. Making me loopy trying to make it work. Many Thanks
And...Many thanks to all of you for making this such an interesting place to check in to!
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2012-03-27 13:01:02 JohnR - $360 is one heck of an admission price, even for Pichler. $60 per, no guarantees. Heck of a Mystery
wine. (Glad I'm in after the 20K. Well done, all.)
2012-03-27 13:03:59 20,004
:P
2012-03-27 13:06:03 Thanks to the Welch's Fiber for helping us "get through it" :lol:
(I KILL me!)
2012-03-27 13:26:55 @louas, happy birthday to Ms. Louas. I will post instructions under
http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/helpful-info tonight
The easiest and fastest way is to host your pictures elsewhere (picasaweb, flickr, etc.) and just link to them.
Alternatively, which is what I will describe, you will be able to post under
http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/great-escapes page, as you can not post images in the Comment
section.
2012-03-27 13:59:34 @louas: sounds as if you have a nice celebration planned for your wife's birthday. Next year, I would suggest you
step up and pop for a bottle of Badger Blush from the Botham winery in Barnevold, Wisconsin.
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2012-03-27 17:15:18 20,000, such a significant number as it represents:
* the elevation that the grapes for Les Cretes grow at
* the number of miles logged by the "bus" ( it has been so long that I forgot the name of it.....)
* the number of steaks pan-seared by Kittysafe
* the number of times I have dropped the F-Bomb on this forum
* the odds of the Red Sox winning the World Series this year (20,000 : 1)...that ones for you BB
* the number of Lou Reed songs on Brook's I-Pod
* the number of times MR21CBS made a technical reference that I did not understand
* the number of bottles in BLou's cellar (that he knows of.........)
* the number of times GaryV apologized for ending the Cindy Forum
* the number of hours since the last time Mobius posted
* the cost of filling the tank in my truck
* the number of roses in Josie's garden
* my blood pressure when I mistakenly channel surf and stumble on MSNBC
* the number of bottles of La Reserva at WL
* the number of RX's Dave T has written
* the number of garlic bulbs that AFK will sell this year
* the number of people that _________________ has %&&*&(* off ( the name in the blank is
subject to opinion)
24421 louas
24422 mr21cbs
2012-03-27 17:17:22 @McMalbec: why wait a year? send us a bottle now!!
2012-03-27 18:54:06 Sir Louas is sharing a picture of his Weber Grill in http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/great-escapes
24423 Hinrgman
2012-03-27 19:08:27 More great nebbiolo on WTSO.
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2012-03-27 19:25:35 Why share a picture of a weber grill, you may ask? Because it is fitted with an attachment that turns it into a
dual fuel burning pizza oven The combination of charcoal and hardwood achieves temps of 700+ degrees. Since
the lid stays on the weber and you slide pizzas in and out the side opening the temp stays hot for 2-3-4 pizzas.
We have been having a blast testing homemade dough, pizza joint dough, artisan pizza joint dough etc. Once the
stone gets hot the pizzas take just a few minutes to cook. The heat stays outside, not in the kitchen. They have a
great flavor.
But best of all it has postponed my grand plan to build a wood burning pizza oven in the yard. That and the
thousands of dollars the project was morphing into.
Nicholas Cole just got poured into decanter. Had a sip. VERY promising! I think still a baby at 6 yrs old.
Thanks for the assist senorcbs!
24425 John O'
24426 TonyO
24428 jpakma
2012-03-27 19:30:37 @Mr21CBS
thx for being the community glue.
2012-03-27 20:55:41 cool I-Pad app our 7 year old found.............................The Night Sky.....on an incredibly clear sky (at least here in
VT), the built in GPS will identify stars and planets.........tonight Venus and Jupiter are as clear as a bell............very
cool technology
2012-03-27 21:00:37 Congrats inmates on rolling the 20k mark! Wasn't willing to risk accidentally bogarting that post, so i just avoided
the urge to say anything! Received my Bedrock delivery today and trying to avoid the urge to pop one.
Drinking the remainder of my '09 Cercius - great CdR. Speaking of grills I have a Weber Genesis but considering
buying a Big Green Egg. Anyone have thoughts on the BGE? I wanted something that I could use as BBQ, smoker,
etc. other suggestions?
24429 winex
2012-03-27 21:24:30 Good evening inmates!! Been awhile since I've posted but have lurked at times. Congrats on this
accomplishment, especially to those who have been faithful to this blog. (unlike me). I've been training for a
couple of triathalons this summer, so my computer time has been limited, and sadly so has my wine drinking.
(This is not an apology!!) Enjoy all the posts & the entertainmnet here...so thanks for the ride!!
24430 mr21cbs
2012-03-27 21:25:04 TonyO, I was told, have not tried it myself, that Star Walk is another very good astronomy app.
~
John O', thank you, I try!
2012-03-27 21:33:43 @Louas Thanks for the rec on the pizza attachment! I will be getting one of those and congrats on the 20k
inmates!
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2012-03-27 21:48:40 @Louas - That is VERY cool! Besides cutting a hole in the side for access, what did you do to make it 'dual fuel'? I
must have one! (A man cannot have enough grills, ya know!)
@Tony O - I use 'The Planets' app for the same. Works really well. Also gives satellite info. I'll have to check out
The Night Sky, too. BTW, did you see Venus and Jupiter a couple of weeks ago when they were two fingers
apart? Pretty cool! Last night Venus and the Moon were pretty close. I hope to see an occultation one of these
days... The nights have been fantastic with Venus, Jupiter, Mars, and later, Saturn, in the night sky.
24435 BuffaloLou
24436 Pats-Pwr
24437 AdamEmp
24438 louas
2012-03-27 22:20:43 @Louas - after some research, I see that the KettlePizza is an accessory you can buy. Neat! I still would like to
know what mods you made to make it dual fuel.
2012-03-27 22:38:52 Congratulations to all the Inmates at Trembling Hills for reaching the 20,000 posts milestone. This is a wonderful
community of great people and I look forward to the next 20K posts. Cheers everyone!
@louas: I'll take my grilled pizza with Ricotta and Sausage. Do you deliver? :lol:
2012-03-27 22:52:59 congratulations on reaching this milestone! Sorry for not stopping by earlier...thank you all for your support and
hope this forum makes it past the 1 million mark some day!!!!
2012-03-27 22:57:27 @BLou: Dual fuel in the sense that you load up the charcoal chimney and let the coals heat up the grill and stone
to about 450. Then you add hardwood (using pecan right now) which brings temp up to 750-800, then levels out
at around 700.
@Pats-Pwr: be careful what you wish for!!
kettlepizza.com is your link for weber attachment
RE: Nicholas Cole 2006 vino: I am now officially very sad that this winery is no more. One of the most satisfying
wines I've had in some time.
I cooked for the birthday girl tonite: Pesto pasta with shrimp from Puerto Penasco appetizer. Filet with wine
reduction and sauteed spinach/mushrooms. Lemon bars for dessert. If this were not a school nite, we would be
way past just one bottle. Happy b-day girl here.
24439 BuffaloLou
83 degrees, 9% humidity today. Already 2 inches behind in rainfall. Desert may burn up this summer when (if)
the storms come.
2012-03-27 23:44:46 @Louas - what's your typical cooking time at 700 degrees?
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2012-03-27 23:46:17 @louas ~ Very nice grill app............at a lower temp that would make a great wood-fired bread oven!
Currently drinking 2004 Chateau Lusseau Bordeaux ......very servicable......and reading about the master Crinum
breeder Marcelle Sheppard........check out what she found growing in someone's backyard............and yes that is
a dinner plate in the pic.......absolutely amazing!!
http://www.marcellescrinums.com/html/crinumfound/crinum-amelia-garza.html
24441 louas
24442 BuffaloLou
2012-03-27 23:50:25 @BLou: typical time is +/-5 minutes depending on style of crust. The skill is learning how to rotate the pizza
without
tearing it or burning oneself. practice, practice practice.
2012-03-28 00:33:38 <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=266508" rel="nofollow">2005 Marquis Philips
Shiraz</a> - Australia, South Eastern (3/27/2012)
C: deep ruby
N: Earth, dead leaves, beef jerky, blueberries
P: Huge wine, lush, velvety, and viscous with loads of blueberries, blackberries; Oak is well integrated at this
point. Comes off as slightly sweet, but I think it's just the fruit coming forward (yes, 7 years old, and there still is
plenty of fruit!) Enough acid to be food friendly.
F: very long
Perhaps drinking at peak, this wine has integrated and is balanced at this point. True to Oz Shiraz style. Need to
try with some grilled fare. (91 points)
24443 BuffaloLou
2012-03-28 00:36:46 @Louas - re: turning - have you seen these: http://www.amazon.com/KettlePizza-Spinner-Set-EasilyInside/dp/B0057XRORW/ref=pd_sim_lg_6
Seems simple yet effective.
24444 BuffaloLou
TY for the notes. I now have to buy this attachment. Oh yes, I also have to buy the grill so I can use the
attachment! I don't think Mrs. BLou will mind... she loves 'Za'!
2012-03-28 00:51:19 WTSO has 2010 Ty Caton Cabernet Sauvignon Caton Vineyard for $20, FS/4.
(https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1326988) - Been wanting to try his Cab. This seems like a good
deal. A 'Newman' 93 seems high, even for him...
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2012-03-28 06:21:10 Wow, over 20,000 posts! Awesome! Congrats to AFK, Brooks, mr21cbs and the rest of the gang for getting us to
this point! Hopefully 50K won't be too long from now! Sorry I've been MIA, spent the weekend immersed in the
Hunger Games trilogy! Just couldn't put the books down till I was all the way through. Found a Kindle app that let
me download all the books to my netbook. May not be quite as streamlined as an iPad, but it's a lot more
economical and works just as well for me! Even cut down on wine so I could stay awake longer to read. Congrats
to all and keep those posts coming!
2012-03-28 09:04:55 Congratulations on the 20K milestone!
On the subject of pizza.... the 700 degree oven is like a traditional wood burning pizza oven temperature.
question: where is the fuel located (alongside or underneath)? Have had great success with a combo of bottom
heat combined with indirect heat although my temperatures never come close to 700.
Inmates should keep their eyes open for the Last Bottle marathon today!
Peace and Love
24449 mr21cbs
24450 Brooks
2012-03-28 10:49:39 Louas, your pizzas have been pozzted: http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/great-escapes
2012-03-28 10:54:59 Life is not a dress rehersal......hold fast to that which is good.....in lieu of flowers reach out to another...NOW!
^
OK let's fire up this Howitzer...we can't take this wine with us ... although WP888 is trying...drink your best bottle
that is in its drinking window and report back. Let's celebrate not only 20,000 posts but life! I will be doing this
on Saturday with a friend visiting town. She and her husband have gone through/going through tough
times...besides comic relief, I will be bringing the wine...going deep...way back..removing the cellar blockers ;)
^
Viking Funeral definition has recently changed in Merriam-Webster's Dictionary
Definition - Every Sunday in the Fall after the Vikings play a football game
24451 SCKen
2012-03-28 11:01:59 I unfortunately have not been stopping by as often as I would like, but I am very happy to see my fellow inmates
hit the 20K mark. Congrats to all that have helped make that happen, and for always keeping this a fun place to
visit!
2012-03-28 11:32:22 @Louas - Your grilled pizzas look terrific!
2012-03-28 11:47:10 My fellow inmates!
Did you give up drinking wine? Did we run out of QPR recommendations? I am tired of seeing this prune juice on
our page and our digestive systems will thank you!
2012-03-28 12:40:39 More quality nebbiolo on WTSO.
2012-03-28 12:52:49 Congrats on 20K, everyone! I need to start hanging out in the Hills more.
24452 BuffaloLou
24453 mr21cbs
24455 hinrgman
24456 K is for Kate
Anyone else trying to hit the Last Bottle Moving Mania Marathon and getting proxy errors?
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2012-03-28 12:54:33 @KifK - Yes to the proxy errors.
2012-03-28 13:07:25 @KifK and BuffaloLou, if LBW is moving to a bigger warehouse, they should be moving to a bigger internet
service provider and perhaps a bigger server (farm). Otherwise we will see nothing but "proxy server errors" in
the future. Success is a dangerous thing.
2012-03-28 13:07:34 Yes, apparently everyone is getting the proxy errors, as both WL and WB are reporting the same problems.
24461 K is for Kate
2012-03-28 13:09:10 @mr21cbs - Agreed that it looks like they need a server/ISP upgrade with their additional warehouse space.
Now they have a black screen available for $0, though, so that looks like progress. ;)
24462 vinmoet
24463 mr21cbs
2012-03-28 13:17:34 Man,CBS, you are fast!!! Already miss the Welch's.
2012-03-28 13:20:59 Vinmoet, I told you that I was getting bored with it, no offense to Brooks. I will send you a mixed case of
Grape/Prune juice if you really miss it ;)
2012-03-28 13:26:46 SIWBM = SERVER Imposed Wine Buying Moratorium.
2012-03-28 13:38:36 BBob - Nice, but for additional clarity I propose the following:
CSIWBM = Crazy Supercomputer Imposed Wine Buying Moratorium ;)
2012-03-28 13:39:15 cbs: Sent you a typo. Should be WA(DS) 90-91 not WP90-91.
24464 BrunelloBob
24465 K is for Kate
24466 vinmoet
24467 BrunelloBob
24470 TonyO
24471 BrunelloBob
24472 mr21cbs
Can you mix some Metamucil (sp?) in with the juice?
2012-03-28 14:01:15 K4K :lol:
LBW's doing the Vaynerchukapology (one word) thing.
2012-03-28 14:43:48 Looks like LBW is back up... or maybe not...
2012-03-28 15:51:58 LBW Marathon rescheduled for 11 AM EDT tomorrow... hopefully! Think Cory went off to kickbox some
hampsters or something... lol! :-)
2012-03-28 16:16:56 @Brooks: I will be in your "hood" this weekend..............I will be the jacka$$ wearing the purple jacket as this is
the only time of year that Viking fans enjoy, the offseason............2-14 this year, and I am being optimistic............
2012-03-28 16:20:07 Does anyone know where Brooks lives?
I've met the guy, and I'm not sure...
I think he may be "on the run"....
2012-03-28 16:22:00 For those that hate to hit Refresh button here, LBW, or anywhere else, AND if you use Google Chrome browser,
you can install an Auto-Refresh extension. There are a few different ones available but I found that this one
works the best and have the configuration you may desire:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/oilipfekkmncanaajkapbpancpelijih
Have fun!
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2012-03-28 18:51:44 @smokenmirrors: The hot coals are configured in a C shape around the rear of the kettle. Then hardwood
added.
The heat is mostly indirect and a pizzza stone is used.
Considering leaving out the stone and testing a couple of steaks for that Steak House crust.
@Blou: Thanks, they look pretty good and tasted pretty good.
2012-03-28 23:01:30 Very quiet tonight, inmates. No comments on the Cindy La Gerta offer? Must be the fatigue that sets in at 20,000
posts.
@louas: Bucky's pleasedto have another good-looking quarterback in Camp Randall for the next two years!
2012-03-29 07:40:19 regarding the La Gerla BdM ... in.
2012-03-29 08:41:34 McMalbec, that's not fatigue, that is hangover after too much celebrating ;)
We could look on the bright side, but can't due to the headache.
2012-03-29 09:23:31 @McMalbec: YES! Appears to be very timely hire.
2012-03-29 09:26:32 Staying out of the La Gerla. I'll have to be satisfied with the one I already have. Too much wine not in climate
control already, with summer on the way. Great offer, though.
2012-03-29 09:43:53 For those needing more of the Bodegas Ondarre Reserva Rioja 2004, WTSO has it, again, for $11.49, FS/4.
I just love their low buy-in FS deals like this. In for a for pack and change back from a U.S. Grant!
24484 BrunelloBob
24485 BuffaloLou
24486 mr21cbs
2012-03-29 11:41:17 This Last Bottle thing is exhausting...
2012-03-29 11:46:59 Some deals seem to last only seconds!
2012-03-29 12:00:18 As far as the LBW mega-mara-tera-vinothon is concerned, I did setup the refresh to 30 seconds. It does run very
fast, and frankly the price points require at least an CT lookup as I don't know these wines. I will keep it running
on one of my screens, but my expectations of getting anything here are slim to none.
24487 BrunelloBob
2012-03-29 12:02:39 In for a Turley Zin.
Have to move so fast, you almost have to "trust" the price...
2012-03-29 12:08:48 That was a Real nice riesling I just missed...
2012-03-29 12:34:58 Tried to get in on the Riesling, but couldn't. Never even saw the Turley. :(
2012-03-29 12:42:49 Lou
Saw the Turley, took time to resaerch it and it was gone
24488 BrunelloBob
24489 BuffaloLou
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2012-03-29 12:48:19 I'm not sure if I want (need) to sign up for another flash site, so I have a couple of LBW questions for y'all.
1) Is LBW a higher-end version of Cindy/TSO?
2) How often does LBW do a "moving" sale? I presume this is similar to Cheapskate Wednesdays?
3) What is your overall experience with LBW?
Patrick
24492 BaroloDude
2012-03-29 12:54:24 LBW has the best deals consistently. Great customer service. This is only the second marathon i can remember.
they do not do them very often. Less often than cheapskate days.
While they do occasionally sell high end wines much more often than Cindy or WTSO, they also sell 10buck wines
a lot too, so i wouldnt' call them high end.
They are based in napa, so the shipping concerns re weather etc. are opposite from a NJ origination. LBW
allows holds for weather concerns too.
and shipping is pretty cheap on multiple bottles... its the onesy twosy that is expensive (for example, you might
pay nearly 10 bucks to ship one bottle, but shipping 2 or 3 or 4 only adds 20 or 30 cents to the shipping price per
bottle after that.... reasonable really). Of course on marathons it seems all orders are FS!
I still buy more from Garagiste, but LBW is my current fave site to watch and occasionally dabble in.
Haven't seen the term SIWBM around here much lately, but mine is firmly in effect and today is gonna be tough.
That La Gerla deal on WL was brutal enough to resist.
24493 ptaylor2112
2012-03-29 12:59:52 Thanks @Barolodude.
I found this article on various flash sites, comparing the # of offers and the discount.
http://www.winesandvines.com/template.cfm?section=widc&widcDomain=flash&widcYYYYMM=2012
01
Apologies in advance if the link isn't clickable...
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2012-03-29 13:02:39 Pat
Second BD's reccomendation of LBW. They're my favorite now and have really interesting offerrings. If you
follow today, youll see a lot of them. They sell a lot of splits, which I Like. The only caveat is that the splits
usually have a lot of age on them. the few problems I've had have been refunded immediately and without issue.
24495 BuffaloLou
2012-03-29 13:06:28 Several deals just came up (including a Pillar Rock Cab) that I jumped on as soon as it (they - as in both deals) and
I missed out on both. Ugh!
2012-03-29 13:16:34 and Cory from LBW is an occasional visitor to our wonderful site here. Although i haven't seen him post in a long
time. He's no "adam from empirewine", but still a welcome visitor.
24496 BaroloDude
24497 BaroloDude
Gotta love when the flash sites recognize our immense pull and influence in the world of flash wine sales... ok,
BLOU's influence. Who am i to take credit...
2012-03-29 13:18:09 I must say, i just plugged in Refresh Monkey to my Chrome browser, and now little windows are popping up in
the corner of my screen after every update to LBW. Pretty cool. I am refreshing every 15 seconds, and
sometimes the site changes that fast. holy cow. some of these wines must be sold off in one order.
24498 BrunelloBob
2012-03-29 13:34:11 Watch LBW's sale blow up the CellarTracker servers as everyone reasearches the same wine all at once... :lol:
24499 BuffaloLou
24500 ptaylor2112
2012-03-29 13:41:26 Wise guy :)
2012-03-29 13:46:22 The Tallulah offer on LBW has been up for about 10 minutes.
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2012-03-29 13:50:05
2012-03-29 13:54:22
2012-03-29 13:58:25
2012-03-29 14:01:46
The IT guy must have had to run to the bathoom. Kind of like a DJ playing "In-a-gadda-da-vida" or side one of
"2112."
Tallulah's gonna shoot herself: Most unpopular girl in the class...
Got That reisling...
Picked up one of the Weinbach Gewurzt's for Mrs. BLou.
I'm logged in, and I get this little diddy under the Last Bottle Banner on the Home page:
"Robert, we are toasting you right now. You're the best!"
24505 K is for Kate
24507 BuffaloLou
24508 BrunelloBob
I never get love notes like that from Cinderella :(
2012-03-29 14:19:51 Yep, no love notes from Cindy. I think she's lost that loving feeling. Mine on LB says "Kate, seeing you again
makes me want to stand up and do a little jig. Thanks for coming by!"
2012-03-29 14:30:40 "Last Bottle loves Louis! Thanks for coming!" My wife doesn't give me love notes...
2012-03-29 14:31:35 Buying, Kate?
I'm in for the Turley zin and a couple of rieslings.
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Mine says "Stop refreshing the page and get back to work!"
"Your wife called, you have no space and are cut off"
"Wow, Robert, you are looking splendid today! Good to see you here!"
(That one's Real, I kid you not)
2012-03-29 14:45:55 BBob- I had to reopen my browser and now have that exact same message. I suddenly don't feel so special. ;)
I have so far only bitten on a couple of things for pleasing my friends' tastes more than mine. Picked up the
Laughing Magpie Shiraz and the Moon Mountain Zinfandel Port. The one's I'm tempted by for myself are a bit
out of my budget at the moment.
24514 BrunelloBob
24515 McMalbec
24516 john o'
24517 BrunelloBob
2012-03-29 14:48:47 K4: I like zin port, but that magpie is tough for my palate. Keep the viognier out of my shiraz!
2012-03-29 15:06:20 Has anyone done business with the Rare Wine Company? They currently have an intersting looking 2009 SainteAnne Notre Dame des Cellettes up for 20bones plus shipping. Thoughts?
2012-03-29 15:15:07 Mine: john, we are toasting you right now. You're the best!
2012-03-29 15:18:12 "Last Bottle loves Robert! Thanks for coming!"
24518 john o'
(I wouldn't blame anyone who thinks I'm making these up, but...)
2012-03-29 15:30:57 twice now I've hit purchase and 1 bottle has been in my cart. when I go to adjust quantity, it's sold out
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24530 BuffaloLou
2012-03-29 15:37:19 Happened to me too John. I'm just buying single bottles now. At least I can get one.
It's like "rationing"
2012-03-29 15:42:00 "john you are much more handsome than BrunelloBob"
2012-03-29 15:42:50 "Brooks and Mobius are brothers from a different mother"
2012-03-29 15:45:19 "Robert, John got the looks, but You got the brains."
2012-03-29 15:46:05 2001 Chat. Ausone wow. LBW 495
2012-03-29 15:48:54 Buy it Dude, so we can move on...
2012-03-29 15:56:40 "TonyO, you better behave when President Obama arrives in Burlington tomorrow"................
2012-03-29 16:00:37 Arrgggghhh: Livingston Moffett. It will be there for days.
2012-03-29 16:03:34 “TonyO, you better buy the Livingston Moffett and go to Canada when President Obama arrives in Burlington
tomorrow”…………….
2012-03-29 16:08:40 0 for 5. I'm due
2012-03-29 16:09:01 The LBW moneython was worth it just due to the fun comments here! I need them to pause for an hour so I can
drive home.
~
"Back again? Michael, you're becoming a broke schmuck!"
2012-03-29 16:10:53 "Back again? Louis, you're becoming a regular! Good to see you."
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0 for 7. Put me back in, coach.
These are going fast...
I'm holding out for the stuff on the floor in the bubble wrap.
I Love bubble wrap...
2012-03-29 16:23:12 @BB - come visit... I have rolls of it! :lol:
2012-03-29 16:26:02 1 for 8, I'm on a roll
2012-03-29 16:26:04 Wait a second.....
If LBW has all of these leftover short lots, does that mean that nothing ever sells out and that no one ever gets
the $25?
WTF?
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24540 ptaylor2112
I'm going home...
2012-03-29 16:29:59 Anyone have any thoughts on Feudi di San Gregorio Serpico Irpinia Rosso IGT 2001
on WTSO Plat.
2012-03-29 16:30:13 2 for 9 (2 for 10 if you count my attempt to get a second bottle).
2012-03-29 16:34:54 @BB - perhaps cancellations when people sober up?
2012-03-29 16:35:21 I am well below the Mendoza line (Mario, not Argentina) and this is getting frustrating.
24541 TonyO
What is the normal frequency of LBW?
2012-03-29 16:42:04 Evening Land has slowed things down......grabbed some Pillar Rock.......enjoyed the last purchase of that
24537 hinrgman
24542 john o'
24543 BuffaloLou
24544 ptaylor2112
2012-03-29 16:42:49 pillar rock was part of my 0 for.
2012-03-29 16:43:36 @Patrick - today is a special moving day clearance so they're selling fast. "Normally" offers last anywhere from a
few minutes to hours.
2012-03-29 16:50:36 TonyO - I just missed out on Pillar Rock. So, thanks for nuthin'. :)
I've had the Evening Land (Oregon and Cali), so I bit on the Bougogne. Plus it gets Dude Howard his $20 in referral
credit.
24546 TonyO
24547 TonyO
Puts me at 1 for 5.
2012-03-29 16:57:22 @ptaylor: I will stay away from all the French and Aussie offerings, have at it !
2012-03-29 17:06:45 almost bit on that Phelps but think it might be tired...............
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2012-03-29 17:28:36 Cripes, I'm like 3 for 5.
I am the new David Ortiz
(that's for you Irish Tony ;) )
2012-03-29 18:00:00 Bit on the Evening Land, managed to get the Gewurtz even with server problems, tried for and missed the Turley
(rats). I've figured out if you want something on LBW today, you have to take a leap of faith and go for it. If you
try to look in CT, you've missed it... guess I'm going for one of each, as that seems to be the only way to get in!
24550 K is for Kate
2012-03-29 18:11:26 WiM- I bit on the Evening Land and the Gewurz, too.
2012-03-29 18:24:07 Kis4K: Also got 3 Pillar Rock juice boxes, but appears they're having server issues again...
24552 TonyO
2012-03-29 19:20:10 The last time Papi went 3 for 5, Manny was being Manny and beer and chicken were being served up dugout
style !
2012-03-29 19:49:26 Papi went 3 for 5,
Manny was being Manny
Beer and chicken were being served
AND THE SOX WIN IT ALL!!!!
(I hear Manny is available again...)
2012-03-29 20:20:56 Opened the Il Balzini Super Tuscan from TSO tonight. It's a 50/50 blend of Cabernet and Sangiovese. Served it
with flank steak and baby bellas (which got a splash of the wine).
24553 BrunelloBob
24554 ptaylor2112
The longer it sat in the glass, the better it became. The Sangiovese tempered the leatheriness and oakiness of
typical Cabernet, and the Cab muted the sometimes overly full mouthfeel tendency of the Sangiovese.
If I see it on TSO again (for $19.99) I'd recommend it.
24556 ptaylor2112
2012-03-29 20:22:23 Got 3 Pillar Box "juice boxes" plus 2 Jonata Winery El Desafio de Jonata. Think I've had it for the night... but I
don't want to miss anything...
2012-03-29 20:22:48 Headline: 3rd Glass of Il Balzini causes ptaylor2112 to snag LBW Phelan Cab 2002.
24557 John O'
24558 BrunelloBob
Hope it's good! CT notes are encouraging!
2012-03-29 20:28:00 what year, Pat?
2012-03-29 20:28:33 P.T.: Is that the white label or the black?
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2012-03-29 20:59:34 I Balzini White Label, 2008.
And, by the way, to state the obvious, I know that my tasing notes are rudimentary. But I've never had a currant,
I've never tasted cassis, or a boysenberry, yada yada yada. I just try to explain how my palate interprets the wine.
And since I usually have the wine with dinner, along with my terrific wife and my excellent 3, 7, and 9 year old
children, I don't have the ability to sit there and ponder the juice. (Ponder the Juice. That would make a great
slogan.) I'm just happy everyone liked what I cooked!
Anyway, hopefully my notes can help someone decide whether or not they'd like the wine.
Gotta go read "Katie Loves the Kittens" the new fave of my 3 yr old. Kids are the best. Hug 'em if you got 'em!
Patrick
24561 David T
2012-03-29 21:16:12 So the ER was slammed at work today. Thus I haven't been able to check into LBW today much until the last two
hours or so, and nothing has caught my eye. Unfortunately for me (fortunately for my cc) yesterday would have
been a different story. I got a laugh reading all of the comments here. Mine is pretty boring in comparison- "Hi
David, good to see you! You're going to love this great offer." and it's the 01 Barons de Rothschild splits which it
seems were up for nearly a week the first time around, this is my second time pazzing on said offer.
In other news tonight's wine was the 07 Cascina Gilli Freisa d'Asti as featured in WLTV # 884. Anyone else old
enough to remember that show? Both the old Cindy board as well as the inmmates' very own BrunelloBob and
BuffaloLou get shout outs from Gary V with two EEs (who's Gary?) as he discusses the wine.
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2012-03-29 21:19:48 ptaylor2112, I have 2 bottles of 2008 D'Isanto & D'Isanto I Balzini White Label Colli della Toscana Centrale IGT in
my cellar. Today drinking the last bottle from a PA liquidation sale a year or so ago. Most were sold for $12-18,
where the price tags on them were $36-70. Not bad risk/reward. Anyway, tonight with the pork loin we are
drinking 2005 Cottonwood Winery Syrah Raya Jade. Here are my notes:
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=511230" rel="nofollow">2005 Cottonwood Winery
Syrah Raya Jade</a> - USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Yakima Valley (3/29/2012) 
Wow, this one is big. Dark red color, no brown edges for this 7 year old. Chocolate mocha beans, blackberries,
blueberries. It starts like a very good syrah, which it is, but finishes like a young porto. 16.2% ABV does not taste
at all (I am sure it is there and will catch up with me). Solid wine. Unfortunately this is my last bottle and it could
last another 3-5 years. Terrific wine! (92 points)
Posted from <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com" rel="nofollow">CellarTracker</a>
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2012-03-29 21:24:41 @DT I splurged and got a bottle of this: 2006 Domaine Francois Lamarche Grands-Echezeaux since it was from
KMurph's favorite winery (remember when we were in the high end wine room at WL?)
2012-03-29 21:38:46 Work kept me away from the LBW sale today, which is probably a good thing. I've been doing a tasting of several
of the Kaella Winery wines this week: sangiovese, merlot, franc and syrah. I must say if you haven't tried Dave
Butner's wines you should. I highly recommend both the sangio and the merlot. I did not enjoy the franc or
syrah nearly as much. I am packing tonight for the family trek to the FL panhandle for Spring Break. Hope
everyone has a great weekend!
2012-03-29 21:40:38 I bit on a couple of the Rothschild splits. $9 to try a Pauillac for the first time. figured couldn't get hurt at that
price pt.
2012-03-29 21:50:48 I just bit on the Black Goose 2006 Old Vines Zinfandel Bartolomei Vineyards Old Vines for $12.
It's always better to ship 4 bottles than 3. It helps the Fedex man keep his balance as he carries the box to my
door.
Yeah, that's the ticket!
...and I just nabbed the Pillar Rock. So now I've got 5 bottles...That doesn't help the Fedex man with his center of
gravity. What to do? What to do?
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2012-03-29 22:14:24 ptaylor2112, I got a word that the LBW money drainer is winding down. I also snatched a couple of bottles of
that Black Goose Zin. My order had shipping added, so Cory will have to adjust it in the morning. They are
exhausted but happy about unloading a ton of bottles.
I did not get anything fancy or expensive... My purchases were:
<ul>
<li>2006 Bartolomei Vineyards Zinfandel Black Goose (USA, California, North Coast, Mendocino County)</li>
<li>2004 Nicholson Jones Cabernet Sauvignon (USA, California, Napa Valley)</li>
<li>2006 Sans Permis La Petite Colline (USA, California, Central Coast, Santa Barbara County) </li>
<li>2002 Edgewood Estate Cabernet Sauvignon (USA, California, Napa Valley)</li>
<li>2006 Tallulah Syrah Bald Mountain Ranch (USA, California, Napa Valley, Mt. Veeder)</li>
<li>2005 Wine & Soul Douro Pintas Character (Portugal, Douro)</li>
<li>2006 Karl Lagler Riesling Smaragd 1000-Eimerberg (Austria, Niederösterreich, Wachau, Spitz)</li>
<li>2006 Waterstone Cabernet Sauvignon (California, Napa Valley)</li>
</ul>
24568 winex
2012-03-29 22:23:50 My day was much like David T. No time at all to check out the LBW deals so I'm bummed & my CC (&
my wife) are very happy. But I love the posts from everyone....helped make a long tough day end with w smile.
Thanks for being here at the Hills!!
Drinking a Lemberger from Seneca Lake winery with parmigiano reggiano....nice juice for a NYS red.
2012-03-29 22:38:30 I ended up with:
24569 ptaylor2112
- 2006 Bartolomei Vineyards Zinfandel Black Goose, Mendocino County
- 2002 Phelan Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley
- 2009 Evening Land Bourgogne (qty: 2)
- 2004 Pillar Rock Stags Leap Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley
Too bad I'm not much on Sonoma Pinot, or I'd snag the (apparently) last offer of the night. Oh well. This was fun!
24570 David T
2012-03-29 22:53:45 @WiM Ahhh, memories! I do indeed, though that was one of the many LBW offers I missed. Also FYI I opened
the Carles Priorat you gifted me last night (my bottle seemed to be NV though you have the 07 listed in CT).
Unfortunately I must say the bottle seemed off; I hope that's not the standard you used when you say you have
not had a Priorat you've enjoyed. I'll bring one that I've liked the next time we meet up.
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2012-03-29 22:57:48 Managed to round out a half case after all.
- 1999 Pillar Rock Stags Leap Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa Valley
2012-03-29 23:06:29 I managed to pick up 3 bottles (two different offers) earlier today. I missed far more than I hit. Still watching on
and off, but it's hard with "the general" around! :lol:
2012-03-29 23:18:44 Now we're on to repeats that didn't sell the first time around. The very same Champagne that is up now was one
of the first offers I got a chance to look at this afternoon. They should do like department stores with additional
discounts each time it's offered on sale ;)
2012-03-30 00:36:33 @WiM & @David T: I also have fond memories of our visit to the high end wine room at WL. That was a
great weekend and the first time I met many of the Cindy & WL Forum posters.
One question, Does anyone know whether LBW ships to Pennsylvania? I couldn't find the answer on their
website and haven't heard back yet from the message I sent to LBW.
2012-03-30 02:52:32 Nice reading through the LBW struggles. This place lit up! I also vaguely remember the High end wine room visit
at the Temple. Those were the days my Cindy friends. I think I found Brookseses shoes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh_h-KdbBrE
2012-03-30 06:10:07 @pats-pwr, LBW does indeed ship to PA via FedEx. Cheers!
2012-03-30 07:52:02 After going 0 for the season through August, I was Mr. September:
Coume del Mas 2003 - 500mL Quintessence Banyuls
Valckenberg 2005 Half Bottle Beerenauslese
Evening Land Pinot Noir 2009 Bourgogne
Faiveley 2006 Meursault
Louis Jadot Santenay 2004 Clos De Malte
Pillar Rock Cabernet Sauvignon Stags Leap District 2006
Barons de Rothschild (Lafite) 2001 Half Bottle Pauillac Reserve Speciale
2012-03-30 08:02:33 A quick peek this morning before my day begins and I see that the moving sale at LBW continues...
Now to get the 13YO up and moving for school...
2012-03-30 08:05:14 @JohnO - Nice grab with the Pillar Rock Cabernet Sauvignon SLD 2006! I picked up the Valckenberg
Beerenauslese when it was originally up on LBW, but haven't popped one yet. When I see these repeats come
up, I kick myself for not trying one when I had the chance.
2012-03-30 08:15:37 For those near Rochester NY, Century's annual warehouse case sale starts at noon today and runs through april
7. I've never attended it, but if they come across with some of their French goodies, it could be fun.
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2012-03-30 10:55:05 I missed some things I really wanted to try, but manged to get a few new things to try in the end:
2 x Barons de Rothschild (Lafite) 2001 Half Bottle Pauillac Reserve Speciale
1 x Turley Wine Cellars Zinfandel 2009 Hayne Vineyard
2 x Jonata Proprietary Red 2005 El Desafio de Jonata
1 x Domaine Francois Lamarche 2006 Grands Echezeaux
3 x Pillar Rock 2006 Half Bottle Cabernet Sauvignon (love those juice boxes)
3 x Evening Land Pinot Noir 2009 Bourgogne
And in my order history, but never received confirmation of order so not sure if I'm getting it or not:
3 x Domaine Weinbach 2004 Cuvee Laurence Gewurztraminer
24585 McMalbec
So I guess that makes me Ms. October! ;-)
2012-03-30 11:02:11 LBW on Friday: to borrow a line from an old Animals recording,...all the good things have been taken....
24586 Phredd
2012-03-30 13:19:35 Managed to avoid the whole LBW flurry, myself. It helped that some of the wines lasted only seconds. It kept
me from serious interest, and I knew if I looked too hard, there would be trouble....
24588 BaroloDude
2012-03-30 14:00:33 I needed to decompress from work and the marathon had me totally focused on that. OBTW, just checked and I
did get the Gewurtz! Looks like they're shipping out next week!
2012-03-30 14:06:02 Dear owner of the TH handle on TWITTER
pls follow me @BaroloDude for my wine related tweets.... NOT @dave_lieb unless you want to see a bunch of
SF Giants, Cal Bears, Arsenal FC , IT Security and other ramblings. so pls unfollow @dave_lieb... cheers.
2012-03-30 14:12:21 That's OK, Phredd, you know if there's anything I got that you want to try, I'm willing to share!
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2012-03-30 14:12:59 the only thing i TRIED to buy on the marathon was the 05 Gruard Larose that was on screen for literally 30
seconds. GL is one of the few Bords i know i like most vintages. It was there one refresh and gone the next
refresh 30 seconds later ... otherwise i escaped unscathed. I have resisted so many great Barolo and Brunello
and other offers lately, its killing me! Any one get in on that Gruard Larose 05? if so , pls post TNs when you
pop a bottle someday.
The most tempting offers, aside from the GruLar above , for me, were the many nice looking Rieslings they had.
Hoping they get more of those in the near future, when i am no longer 6 cases overcapacity... (garagiste biz
model is evil!) I see some of you got the Smaragd... awesome. Never met a Smaragd i didn't like.
Glad to see a few THers finished so well in the marathon!
24591 BaroloDude
2012-03-30 14:18:33 Dear BBob
re your comment "If LBW has all of these leftover short lots, does that mean that nothing ever sells out and that
no one ever gets the $25?"...
i think it means (1) they have less than perfect inventory controls... they find another box after they thought
they were sold out, and/or (2) someone cancels an order before they shipped it.
AND I MUST SAY, PTAYLOR2112 and Jpakma are fitting in quite nicely here at the Hills. Keep taking your meds.
PT2112: I am reading a lot of Green Eggs and Ham, Pigtoria, and Disney abridged classic stories these days to my
(now) 4yr old ... love it. She is now at the point where i can stop the story and ask her "what happens next?"
and she nails it... The 4mo old likes to watch us read. Is the "2112" a Rush reference? Do you live on a planet
in the SOlar Federation?
24592 mr21cbs
24593 BrunelloBob
2012-03-30 14:38:35 @BaroloDude, done. Unfollow and follow were executed. You better say something nice, cool or important in
those 140 characters!
2012-03-30 15:59:34 Just found this at the Temple if anyone is looking to try an aged riesling. No experience with it, but worth the
gamble to me given the price:
https://winelibrary.com/products/65928-95-schloss-schonborn-kabinett-hochheimer-holle-riesling
2012-03-30 19:17:41 Is everyone out standing in line for lottery tickets? What will you do wine-related if you win?
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2012-03-30 19:25:44 @BLou and JohnO: The Valkenberg is yummolicious. Sort of like a ripe apricot exploded in your mouth and
stayed for a long time. Really nice. Enjoy. Hey Lou, it's friday nite...go ahead and pop one!
24598 NaH
2012-03-30 19:31:31 @WiM re: winning the lottery
24599 ptaylor2112
If I win, I'm buying Wine Library and making Gary V my personal Sommelier!
2012-03-30 20:06:08 I was happy to get my 6-pack from LBW. Am anxious to get the shipment...
We had chickin' dippin' tonight. Lightly seasoned and floured chunks of chicken breast, and a light pan fry. My
wife (Ann) gave each of us a saucer, on which contained 3 types of BBQ sauce, 2 remoulades, and ranch dressing
(for the kids).
We dipped to our heart's content.
I had it with the 2009 Kermit Lynch Cypress CDR. Just a taste, though, as the Dudes on the Porch are meeting
tonight. I like the Cypress (my rating: 87-88), but it's a little heavy on the Syrah side. I prefer the majority to be
Grenache. Anyhoo, heading over to the Dudes to polish off the Lynch, the I Balzini, and whatever Dude Howard
and Dude Barry brought.
@BaroloDude - We have assumed control. We have assumed control. We have assumed control.
Y'all have a great weekend!
Patrick
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2012-03-30 21:37:46 Your Kommander will be adding a few thoughts to the 1 in 15274790 chance of holding the winning ticket.
1- the Kommander will seize kontrol of the NY Jets. Garrison Gary will bow before the Kommander
2- the Kommander will seize kontrol of the wltv boards, where Kris Mott will be replaced with Michael Roytman
3- the kommander will ise his newfound wealth to secure a wtso platinum membership.
4- the Kommander will invite all inmates to the biggest bash, since NaH's Philly fun time
5- the Kommander will devout unlimited time answering all wine related questions here in the hills.
6- the Kommander will spend countless dollars, securing vertical vintages of all wines from A to Z.
7- the Kommander will make the klam Vaynerchuk an offer they kannot refuse.
8- the Kommander will close the cheese shop at the Temple, a dedicated vodka section will take ots place.
9- the Kommander will start ' cocktail hour at 1600 hrs on a daily basis.
10- the Kommander will press for DTC laws to be changed on a nationwide level, assuring all inmates that what
they want, they can get.
As always your Kommander is here for you.
Kaos out
24601 NaH
2012-03-30 21:45:11 @kommander
24602 Mrpat56
Are you attending this year? MAY 19th
2012-03-30 22:00:24 Hello all, I have not commented for a long time but lurk in the dark shadows. I head NaH mention May19. Is
that the Philly wine dinner? Please keep me on your mailing list, I am hoping to see many of you there again!
24603 David T
24604 mr21cbs
24605 NY Pete
2012-03-31 00:01:15 @john o' Thanks for the heads-up on Century. I coincidentally am in Rochester this weekend and was already
planning to swing by tomorrow! (er, today, just looked at the clock!). Hopefully I don't do too much damage on
the cc....
2012-03-31 00:42:03 Kommander, you're too kind, but I don't think the Temple kan afford my services. Plus, I have komplete and total
respekt for Kris Mott. Running a half drunken enterprise is not an easy task. Would love to meet you, Sir. Please
kome to the Philly off line!
2012-03-31 08:25:57 kaos coming to the philly offline ... never.
his cover would be blown.
LMAO
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2012-03-31 08:30:10 @louas - TY for the TN on the Valkenberg. Sounds like we made a good buy! Didn't pop one as we had a
wonderful visit from Rick Hudak (RDHudak on the forum) and his lovely wife, Jo, and decided to pop other
yummies.
The evening started with a 2010 Kaella Rose'. Just as tasty as it was last Summer! Then, after putting back a
draught Guinness at dinner, we came back to our place and enjoyed:
- 2007 Dominus Estate
- 2005 D'Alessandro Il Bosco
The Dominus started slowly. She didn't want to give up her charms behind her 'ruby' slippers. It took hours (I
popped it at 5:45; we finished after 11PM.) She was slowly revealing her silky, sweet black fruits, vanilla, dill,
cassis, pepperoncini pepper, and anise. That was just her bouquet. The palate was revealed just as slowly,
starting with red fruits on a rather thin mouthfeel and gripping tannins. As the evening marched on, the
mouthfeel became more viscous and started to coat the mouth. She started revealing green pepper, and layers
and layers of deep, black fruit, vanilla, hints of smoke. This is just a baby. I have one more left that I won't touch
for at least 5 years. Wish I had a few more. 94BL
24607 BuffaloLou
2012-03-31 08:42:53
2012-03-31 09:46:33
24609 BrunelloBob
24610 John O'
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2012-03-31 10:07:47
24611 BrunelloBob
2012-03-31 10:21:44
The Il Bosco was rockin' from the pnp, or at least the bouquet was. Very close in color to the Dominus, the Il
Bosco was a different beast; Vibrant, explosive bouquet from the pop, it changed and developed all night long.
Cola, specifically 'concentrated cola syrup', was very prominent. With orange zest, smoke, forest floor funk and
vanilla all taking a back seat. Rick nailed the syrah on the pnp (I didn't reveal what the wine was, and he guess
Syrah from N. Rhone or Italy.) One the palate there was vanilla and blackberry. Meaty with sweet tannins. Nice
acidity. Beautifully balanced. Enjoying this wine was like going on a tour with something different at every turn.
Beyond the technical, this wine was just delicious. 93BL
As always, a visit from the Kommander gave a good chuckle.
The Kommander points out to pfc pete, that there are better odds of the Kommander appearing in philly than of
some low level grunt showing up
Kaos out
@Kaos: :lol:
2007 Haut Brisson "La Reserve" Parker 95 for $54 JJB private client pricing.
Haven't tried the '06 yet, and did not care for the '07.
Is Gary V still involved in this?
J.O.: If the Demigod (famous boreddough "reserve" winemaker) were still involved, would you be more likely or
less likely to purchase?
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2012-03-31 10:53:49 @JohnO
24613 John O'
I think anyone with $$$ can make the "La Reserve"
2012-03-31 10:57:05 @BB - less
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Notes from offer:
Located in St Emilion, right next door to Garigiste Rockstar Jonathan Malthus, Haut Brisson has produced the best
wine ever from what is considered to be less than attractive terrior, proving that dedication, hard work, a love
for the land beautifully seductive wines can be made. With the help of Michel Rolland, this property has seen
tremendous growth since Peter Kwok purchased the Chateau in 1997. 'La Reserve' is drawn from their very best
parcels and barrels to reflect the terrior and to produce a world class wine. I have been following this chateau
for a few years now and the 2009 has taken this chateau to the next level.
Robert Parker, 95 points:
"The limited production 2009 Haut-Brisson Reserve ratchets up everything, from the color (inky purple) to the
aromatics, flavor profile, and long, full-bodied finish. This is a brilliant St.-Emilion that tastes like it came from one
of the great terroirs on the St. Emilion plateau. It is also structured and unevolved, and will benefit from 5-7 years
of cellaring. Anticipated maturity: 2017-2030.
24614 BrunelloBob
2012-03-31 11:25:44 J.O.: You mean you have less faith in some dude from New Jersey than in the Chateau's experienced winemaker?
:lol:
(please don't look at my CellarTracker inventory and see how many "La Reserves" I went for :) )
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2012-03-31 11:57:14 Guys, this is complete speculation, so take it with a grain of salt and feel free to attack me as being wrong later,
but:
1. The "La Reserve" that Gary sold from several Chateaux were wines that reflected him performing the final
blending, ie. he increased Merlot from 60% of the blend to, say, 70%.
2. This La Reserve here is the Chateau doing this on its own and making a special blend that uses only the best
from its grounds. It is independent of GV or so I believe.
3. Traditionalists like me poo poo this concept as a marketing ploy and sell-out. The Chateau should make its
best wine, period. If it wants to make a wine that is from lesser fruit or young vines, then it should put out a
second label. Historically, a special cuvee or a reserve wine is made in other appellations that don't enjoy the
classification that Bordeaux has. Doing this in Bordeaux has the appearance of succumbing to less dignified
marketing gimmicks. This is an old world, blue blood wine appellation after all.
4. If you don't care about the label and only care about the wine, then maybe you ignore a traditionalist like me
and just taste the wine. RP95? Whether you love or hate him, that's a heck of a score at this price point. While
the "serious" Bordeaux collector pays 3 times the price for a similar score just because of the label you can drink
the same score at a discount and not care.
24616 NY Pete
2012-03-31 13:57:44 a couple of questions that need to be addressed ...
is kaos still wearing blinders?
is brunello bob still dead?
cheers
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2012-03-31 16:48:00 For those who purchased any quantity of the Cameron Hughes Lot 200, I have some encouraging news, at least
from my own perspective. Last evening, I opened a bottle for the third time since purchasing, and the wine has
improved tremendously since my first sampling almost one year ago (at which point I was not overwhelmed) and
second a few months thereafter (which was merely enjoyable). The wine, to my palate, has developed
significantly in the bottle, as CH initially promised, and appears now to be outperforming its price point. There is
evident dark fruit, balanced by smooth tannins and light oak; in my view, this is a far cry from the overly
extracted California fruit bombs that I tend to avoid. I am hopeful that this trend continues, as I have a number
of bottles remaining.
Regarding vinmoet's comments, I understand the aversion to Bordeaux's off vintages. However, I have a case of
2002 Leoville Barton that I obtained below your $50 threshold, and I have no regrets with respect to the
purchase. I have sampled one bottle already (way too young, I know) and it shows great promise. I concede that
this may be an exception that proves the rule, and my experience with the 07's is quite limited and not terribly
impressive. But a flat embargo seems a bit unforgiving; I would recommend instead to proceed with caution.
2012-03-31 21:15:17 Speaking of Bordeaux, received an e-mail from Neil at JJB, touting a 2008 Fonplegade Saint Emilion for $36.91. (
Interesting as he is there for 2011 barrel tastings). Thoughts?
2012-03-31 23:22:01 Someone needs to remind Ohio State that you need to drink Gatorade at halftime and save Champagne for after
the game. I can't think of any other explanation for playing a second half that poorly.
2012-04-01 06:40:07 "In victory you deserve champagne, in defeat, you need it."
24629 McMalbec
~ Napoleon Bonaparte
2012-04-01 07:01:09 On a much brighter note: Happy birthday to our senior inmate from the sunshine state and Mitch's best friend
:lol:
2012-04-01 09:15:37 Selling my Washington, California and Oregon wines to concentrate on the Old World. Thanks to Vinmoet, I am
totally converted. Hosting a garage sale. Everything must go at pennies on the dollar. Oh, and free shipping for
my distant friends and relatives.
2012-04-01 09:29:03 @ mrcbs: in 17 generations, you and I will in all likeyhood be related. Will use send with styrofoam containers?
24630 mr21cbs
2012-04-01 09:54:01 McMalbec, if you have daughter(s) we can be related much sooner. Cardboard, styrofoam, bubble wrap...
24627 luddite
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2012-04-01 10:02:02 Sunday morning musings before I head to Church:
cbs: Ironically, I am slowly getting into Cali...we are on the cusp of their best wines ever. The battle over the
best is (and probably always will be) between Bordeaux and Burgundy. Will always love Bordeaux but like the
development in Cali and like Oregon pinot a lot. Keep the best of what you've got and drink/trade/sell the rest.
Evolve into buying some '09 Bordeaux.
2002 has solid wines if you buy them at the right price but as a general rule, 2002 and 2007 are really wines to
stay away from. 2009 is so fantastic that your money is really better spent on '09 over the next year while you
can buy them. We've drunk our '02's and I just won't buy more. I am comfortable with a total ban on both
vintages unless you like really lean wines.
2010 is incredible but will be super tannic and you can't touch it for 20 years. 2011 stinks with only pockets of
brilliance (already tasted it in tank in the fall). The future does not look great as other vintages hit the shore so
'09 is the best choice. Older guys there who have tasted numerous vintages in tank said that '09 reminded them
of '82. '82 tasted great 3 years out and is amazing now. You get the best of both worlds...think 2003 and 2005 all
in one.
IMHO smart money is in '09 and not wasted on the mediocrity of '02/'07.
'08 stinks left bank, good in Saint Emilion/Pomerol. Not familiar with the referenced wine. Will research later.
Don't bet on poisonous nuts...they will ruin your bracket.
I wish Bill Self was still at Illinois...for lots of reasons.
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2012-04-01 11:35:19 McMalbec: Did some research. Parker's notes:
"Wine Advocate #194
May 2011 Robert Parker 93 Drink: 2011 - 2026 $31-$50 (50)
A major sleeper of the vintage, the 2008 offers fabulous aromas and flavors of black currants, black cherries,
loamy soil, graphite and earth. Dense and supple textured with abundant fat and concentration in its medium to
full-bodied, complex, evolved personality, it should drink well for 15+ years."
"Wine Advocate #182
Apr 2009 Robert Parker (92-94) Drink: 2009 - 2029 $31-$50
The dense ruby/purple-tinged 2008 Fonplegade displays classically sweet, pure aromas of spring flowers, red and
black fruits, and hints of licorice as well as toasty oak. A full-bodied mouthfeel, admirable fruit purity, stunning
texture and richness, and well-integrated, sweet tannins suggest it will drink well for 20 years."
They have a serious website: http://www.fonplegade.com/
I think the CT notes reflect that this is really young wine. I'd decant the heck out of it before drinking:
24633 vinmoet
2012-04-01 11:48:52 I've not been there. Here's what else I could find out:
Its owned by the owners of L'Enclos, a couple of Americans named Stephen and Denise Adams. Its near Canon
and Canon la Gaffelière. I've been by the place but just don't remember it.
The owners are U.S. billboard Magnates (Adams Outdoor Advertising...appears on billboards coast to coast).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Adams_%28business%29
Its planted with 91% Merlot, 7% Cabernet Franc and 2% Cabernet Sauvignon, average vine age of 30 years, is
fermented in wooden vats and aged for between 18 and 24 months in 100% new French barrels.
Since 2009 they have farmed biodynamically.
Sounds like a modern wine keeping Bordeaux roots.
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2012-04-01 11:54:01 Ludd:Given that today is my birthday (which reminds me that I am senior), I thank you. Now if my wife and I can
just get on a Delta flight from Atl to Jacksonville so we can then either fly SW to Tpa or rent a car for 200 miles, it
will be good. That JUST happened, we can board and be home sometime today for more serious drinking of
wine!
2012-04-01 12:12:20 @wine mag - Happy birthday! I hope you get to spend it with the ones you love while enjoying life's finest.
2012-04-01 12:29:10 reorganizing the cellar (alright organizing).
hip checked a bottle and broke it (shit!)
Schild 2007 Barossa Shiraz (Whew!)
2012-04-01 12:37:09 Why does me thinks cbs is perpetrating an April fools hoax?
2012-04-01 17:39:47 @ vin- thanks for your research!
@louas- Wisconsin Winery near Madtown wins international
competition:http://host.madison.com/wsj/business/wollersheim-named-winery-of-the-year-in-internationalcompetition/article_318ba79e-6fa5-11e1-9ee3-0019bb2963f4.html
2012-04-01 20:12:53 There was more than one inmate gathering in Buffalo this weekend- Mrs DT and I had a very short but enjoyable
dinner with BuffaloLou and his wife this evening. Campfires were not involved though I did get to meet Scout
Alex. I even brought a pinot that was not only devoid of iodine but Lou actually liked! Notes/details to come once
I'm back in Cleveland.
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2012-04-01 20:25:56 Awesome, and very busy weekend for Mr. & Mrs. BLou.
Friday: As I mentioned, a wonderful visit from RDHudak and his wonderful bride. Terrific food, wine, and
conversation!
Saturday: Scout Alex received his Ad Alteri Dei religious award in Boy Scouts, then a dreadful game of indoor
("box") Lacrosse.
Sunday: Another evening filled with good food, wine, and conversation, but this time with David T and the lovely
Mrs. DavidT aka Laura.
Wines tonight included my first (!) Oregon Pinot Noir. It was very nice! A 2009 Sineann Resonance Vineyard.
This really developed in the glass over a couple of hours.
That was followed by an '08 Phelps Cabernet Sauvignon which was just delicious! Phelps has really changed their
game from the 90s. The Cabs are far less oaked and just terrific.
Final wine was a blind: an '06 OliverHill Petite Sirah. Not overly complex, but not a fruit bomb as one would
think coming from Oz. Loads of chocolate and blackberry on the nose with a vegetal hint. Add some vanilla and
maple syrup on the nose. Very interesting.
24645 TonyO
24646 mr21cbs
24647 BuffaloLou
Now, helping the 13YO with science projects...
2012-04-01 21:33:03 @BLou: if you liked they Sineann, they have a wine club that I would recommend.............Peter Rosback
(ower/winemaker) is a great guy.....www.sineann.com.......his Old Vine Zin is fantastic
2012-04-01 21:44:05 BuffaloLou, April fools day hoax indeed. You got me.
2012-04-01 22:01:56 @cbs - you had me going at first! Then again, I am gullible...
@TO - TY for the rec on the Sineann!
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2012-04-01 22:35:59 Formal notes will be posted on CT but here's a summary.
Tonight on the way back from Rochester, Mrs DT and I made a pit stop in East Aurora because Lou had taken
delivery of some combined purchases for me, and I of his.
In addition to preparing a delicious cheese plate, Lou grilled a wonderful pork tenderloin and some of the biggest
shrimp I have seen.
Three wines were opened09 Sineann PN Resonance Vineyard- (No iodine! A pinot Lou actually said he ENJOYED! Way to go, Peter!) I
haven't had a lot of Oregon PN, but Peter's would be hard to beat.
08 Joseph Phelps Napa cab- This was very well made and fit the typical Napa cab profile perfectly. Just starting to
enter its prime drinking window.
06 Oliver Hill McLaren Vale PS- Lou served this blind, and I must say my blind identification is improving
somewhat. I immediately eliminated Italy, France, and anything made from a Bordeaux blend of grapes. Guesses
were zin/syrah/petite syrah from the US or Australia. This was actually my WOTN, did not have any of the
jaminess typical of AU, with some nice chocolate & dark fruit & a tremendously long finish.
24650 David T
2012-04-01 22:44:30 @cbs Nice joke, would you believe I actually took a glance at your cellar to see if there was anything I would
want? :D
@TO I met Peter this past summer and he is indeed first class all around. I have yet to join the club with buying a
house and whatnot but plan to soon. I've been very impressed with everything of his I've tasted.
24652 ptaylor2112
2012-04-01 23:57:34 Oregon Pinot is lovely! Cooper Mountain, Domaine Serene, and Lange are some of my faves. I particularly like
the Dundee Hills AVA. Rex Hill is pretty good, too. I was lucky enough to schedule a mini-vacation in the
Willamette Valley last summer, hitting up 9 wineries (and tasting about 50 Pinots) over 2 days. Domaine Serene
and Domain Drouhin are literally across the street from one another, but it was like night and day: Drouhin was
the most old world style, while Serene was the most new world.
As for Joseph Phelps cab, I've never had the pleasure. But Dude Howard was at Joseph Phelps a couple months
ago. He has a contact that works in Phelps' hospitality, and ended up tasting a vertical-to-end-all-verticals that
Steven Tanzer had been served earlier in the day. I never heard the end of it...
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2012-04-02 08:32:05 @DavidT, I guess you did not find anything in my cellar that you would want ;)... I felt something had to be said
on April 1st!
~
On a not so joking matter, the server that runs TH is being upgraded to bigger, better (TWSS), more modern
operating system. I was told that up to 2 hours of down time is possible between now and end of day April 3. If
the site is down, you know why. I will monitor their progress from administrative panel. We should be screaming
fast!
2012-04-02 09:18:21 cbs: We've got a QPR emergency here. The wine should be Chateau Corbin like:
http://www.americaswineshop.com/wines/2009-Chateau-Corbin-St.-Emilion-w4452265a9
There are a handful of variations of Corbin. Corbin Despagne is one of my favorites but, for whatever reason, it is
lean in 2009 compared to its flamboyant neighbors and is not my recommended QRP. The Chateaux are not
legally related. Historically they have a tie back to a Corbin name and it all varies from one place to the next.
But, for our purposes, each is distinct and unrelated.
Its very easy to get these guys mixed-up. I noticed that in my link, the retailer quoted the first tasting by RP but
not his second. Ironically, his second tasting bumped his score to 92. You'd think a retailer would be all over that.
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2012-04-02 10:04:22 I was looking at the PJWine site for the Corbin Despagne. Seems like they were selective in choosing what Parker
notes to put up. They only quoted his 2010 but neglected to quote out his 2012 tastings. Hmmmm, what sells
more wine, 87 points or 90-93?
"Wine Advocate #199
Feb 2012 Robert Parker 87+ Drink: 2015 - 2025 $27-$36 (30)
This is one of the few 2009s that performed less impressively from bottle than from barrel. (In most cases, as
great as they were from barrel, the wines were even more profound from bottle.) This wine seems to be very
much in the style of a 2005, with very high levels of worrisome tannin, a dense purple color and some real meat
and concentration, but the tannins are austere and astringent. Anticipated maturity: 2015-2025?"
"Wine Advocate #188
A powerful, inky/purple color is followed by notes of graphite, crushed rocks, incense, blueberries, and
blackberries. The flavors are concentrated, pure, dense, thick, and unctuous with plenty of tannin lurking under
the surface. However, the tannin is well-concealed by the wine’s enormous fruit, glycerin, and density. It should
evolve for 15 or more years. As are many recent vintages of Grand-Corbin-Despagne, the 2009 is realistically
priced. (Tasted two times.)"
24658 mr21cbs
24659 BuffaloLou
2012-04-02 10:18:37 Vinmoet: QPR emergency diverted. No bad wine was bought or drunk during these difficult times. Thank you for
your vigilant and thorough examination of my poor interpretation of your proposal. I am sure it will happen
again, but I will fix it 8)
2012-04-02 11:42:20 Possible line-of-the-year: "QPR emergency" -Vinny
@DT - You should have mentioned that the OliverHill (for some reason it's usually written w/o a space. I dunno...
) was your WOTN! Nice to hear! And yes, nice job on the identifying!
@ptaylor - I've been a 'phan' of Phelps for 20+ years. Nice wines in general. The flagship, Insignia, is, IMO, more
restrained and "Bordeaux like" than some of the other big Napa Cabs. Still, you can always detect the Napa fruit.
Their Cab is a more reasonably priced version of the Insignia (although not quite in the same league.) The Merlot
has never thrilled me. It's their Rhone varietals that I really like! The Syrah is quite nice, but the Le Mistral has
been one of my favs.
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2012-04-02 17:18:38 The Kommander kommends Pharmacist Mate David on the blind Aussie PS.
Your Kommander is pleased when he sees the troops rendevouxing in the field. Warrant officer Blou once again
comes through with yet another bottle of the Kommanders favorite USofA producer. Unlike todays QPR CofO,
Phelps never surrenders.
Good job men!
kaos out
2012-04-03 10:51:32 Is this thing on?
~
Congrats to Kentucky U and its supporters on the national championship.
2012-04-03 17:01:06 Looks like LBW has a cute pooch for only $22!
2012-04-03 19:51:40 Bit on the Sine Qupe Syrah offer on Last Call Wines.................$27.00/ free ship with three bottles
2012-04-03 21:39:10 BP posted this on the forum:
"someone in my family came up with this great idea that I may want to try going dry on Mondays and Tuesdays,
and sometimes Wednesday,s in order to give my liver a break :doucheroll:"
I read it to Mrs. BLou. She and I busted a gut laughing!
Interesting offer on CW tonight, but for the $, I'd rather buy the Loosen Bros "Dr. L".
24675 louas
24678 john o'
24679 john o'
No on going in on the $22 pooch?
2012-04-03 22:17:48 Enjoyed, and I mean enjoyed an 05 Gerla Brunello tonite with Grilled Veal chop. Perfect pairing (IMHO).
First night of vacation/visit my fam in NY/continue the birthday week(s) celebration for Ms. Louas' 60th.
Flying out to NYC thru Dallas manana which should be interesting
Believe it or not there is an opening in our schedule for Monday night 4/9 if any New Yorkers are lurking out
there
and in the mood for a meet and greet.
[email protected]
2012-04-04 10:23:12 what pairs best with grilled boneless leg of lamb?
2012-04-04 10:24:57 been thinking about a Keurig single cup coffee system, ever since they came up with the cartridges you can fill
yourself.
Any opinions of the quality of the java?
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2012-04-04 11:49:57 This may be a long shot, but can anyone recommend a varietal from 1972 that might have some life left to it and
any suggestions on where I might be able to find such a wine. I checked Hooked On Wine, who carries a lot of
older vintages, but they didn't have anything from 1972. In general, I don't think 72 was supposed to be a very
good year, so there may be nothing out there, but my wife turns 40 next month, and it would be kind of cool to
have something from her birthyear if I can find it.
24681 BuffaloLou
2012-04-04 12:01:12 @JohnO - re: leg of lamb pairing - You have a few choices. A nice Zin would make an excellent pairing especially
if you're using a cumin and/or garlic based spice mix on the lamb. Either Cab Sauv or Merlot also go well, esp
when using rosemary. I don't recommend using an older Cab as the fruit in younger Cabs goes well. I've heard
that Rioja, Chianti, and a Northern Rhone are good pairings as well, but I have not tried any of them with leg of
lamb. All that said, the fact that you're grilling it leads me to one choice above the rest: Zin.
24682 john o'
2012-04-04 12:07:57 I have a '73 Mouton Rothschild (Picasso label). You can tell your wife you thought she was a year younger.
24683 BuffaloLou
2012-04-04 12:09:10 @SCKen - I did some quick research. It appears most of Europe was a bust in '72. I was thinking a German
Riesling, but nope. According to Decanter mag: http://www.decanter.com/wine-learning/vintageguides/vintages/1973
It looks like your best regions are:
- Australia red
- Red Burg
- Red Rhone
Perhaps celebrating with a wine that she prefers or a wine from the year you were married (or met) might be a
better option. It's the thought that counts, and I'm sure she'll appreciate what ever you decide.
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2012-04-04 12:18:17 Drat, my post must have landed in moderation. Here it is w/o the link (which is probably the reason)
@john o - I have a Keurig single cup system (actually a unit made by Breville) and it has the "My K-cup" which you
can fill with your coffee of choice. I love the system, but I don't think it's really designed for a coffee connoisseur
(of which I certainly am not). They excel at offering a quick cup of Joe, IMHO. The system uses a lot of coffee to
make a single cup as the water contact with the coffee is limited. Be that as it may, I like it.
One other thing. At work I have a Keurig unit (purchased from BJ's Wholesale Club). It's a basic unit. When I
brew the same coffee at home vs at work using the two different brewers, the coffee is completely different.
The Breville unit (purchased at Williams-Sonoma) produces a far superior cup, IMO.
YMMV
24686 john o'
24687 john o'
2012-04-04 12:19:47 Lou - Zin, wouldn't have though of that. thx for the advice.
2012-04-04 12:22:21 Lou - that kind of confirms my experience with the Keurig's. Convenient, but just not as good as my drip.
24688 BuffaloLou
24689 BrunelloBob
2012-04-04 12:35:58 @john o - Enjoy!
2012-04-04 12:41:29 Ken:
After ruling out the usual suspects (port, sauternes, Barolo...) I resorted to using my "Luddite-like" research skills,
I did a tasting notes search on Cellartracker, searching just "1972".
I then sorted by region.
Looks like Burgundy and Napa are your best bets.
I don't know the first thing about Burgundy, but there are some big Napa names still scoring well.
If I were looking for something like this, I'd input "1972" on wine searcher to see what was available (there's a
bunch), then cross reference to CT. Or find something specific on CT that gets your attention, then try wine
searcher.
Good luck, no matter what you do, it's a gamble.
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2012-04-04 14:14:47 Thanks BLou and BBob for the suggestions. After I posted, I did the same search and it does look like Burgundy
may be the best option, but so far I am not finding much that won't cost me $250+. I'm just not sure I want to
drop that kind of cash on something that is 50/50 at best that it is still any good. I'm starting to think it might be
better to go with BLou's suggestion of something from our wedding year, '98, or even easier, the year our
daughter was born, '05, both of which I already have several choices of in my cellar.
24691 Phredd
2012-04-04 15:16:25 Gotta disagree with BLou on pairing aged Cabernet with grilled leg of lamb. I think it is a great pairing,
personally, and would be one of my first choices. It's the opposite of Zin, which provides a fruity contrast. The
point of the aged Cab is to provide complementary complexities to the earthiness of the lamb.
24693 BuffaloLou
2012-04-04 16:04:16 @phredd - IMO, lamb is too strong in flavor for the delicate flavors in aged Cab. But what ever works!
24694 A Frayed Knot
2012-04-04 16:59:35 A family friend on the uh....."guitar"..........need I say, there is not much to do around here!
24695 TonyO
24698 TonyO
24699 brooks
24700 brooks
24702 BrunelloBob
24703 TonyO
24704 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iWOljxzzZSk
2012-04-04 18:50:58 @John O: full disclosure, I am a KAD (Keurig Authorized Dealer) but here is my take: it makes a consistently good
(not great) cup of coffee, it is convenient and quick, with the refillable cup, you can use any coffee you like or use
K-Cups (my favorites are Lake & Lodge, Kenya AA, and Sumatran)........to me, French Press is still the best
method for making a GREAT cup of coffee (assuming you have great beans and water and a proper grind)
2012-04-04 20:23:25 The Kommander koncurs with phirst mate phredd in regards to the aged kab pairing with lamb. This meat
skreams out for the earthiness of a properly aged kabernet.
Unfortunately it would seem that brevet lieutenant Lou dropped the ball on this.
that said, no further disciplinary actions shall be taken
kaos out
2012-04-04 20:49:38 @JohnO' : I do not eat much lamb, but when I do, I prefer CdP...............stay thirsty my friends
2012-04-04 20:57:54 AFK...nice music...they did not suck...pardon the pun
^
Say good night B squared
2012-04-04 21:03:36 TonyO...I was in NYC this past weekend , given that I did not get a bail money call, I will assume your trip was
successful. I look forward to joining you and the "Other One"
2012-04-04 21:07:58 "good night" Brooks-boy.
2012-04-04 21:46:38 @brooks: very low key weekend, lots to eat, lots to drink, no laws broken (at least that I remember it that
way)..........yes, a meeting with the "other one" is in the cards.....check your calendar (and email)................
2012-04-04 22:27:04 A thousand thanks to the kommander for his leniency. ;)
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@AFK - at least the singer is better than most of the acts on Letterman... :)
insert double doucherolls here
I think lamb is pretty flexible. For a grilled leg I would prefer a Spanish red, particularly Rioja. Something with
some age on it. The Ondarre that we've bought off and on around here is really a phenomenal wine that can
dress up or down and would be a perfect match.
I also like the idea of a Syrah/Grenache based wine from either the North or South of the Rhone.
The grilled aspect of it also makes it good for a grapey varietal like Zin, younger Bordeaux from the right bank
(Merlot dominated), a Cali Cab or Merlot. The CDP's from 2007 are flashy monsters that would pair well. I also
think that any kind of Pinot would work really well. Even with the grilled component I'd be fine with a subtle old
world Burgundy with a little age on it (2002 and earlier) but an over extracted modern Pinot from Cali would be a
great foil too if that's your cup of tea.
As far as 1972 birth year wines, its a tough one. Speaking for Bordeaux, the 70's was a horrible decade. Arguably
'70 and '75 are the best two years.
24712 BrunelloBob
24713 john o'
24714 vinmoet
The safest bet would be a Chateau D' Yquem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_d%27Yquem What
2012-04-05 09:36:05 ummmmm...., Vinny? Per the wiki link you reference:
"On average, 65,000 bottles are produced each year. In a poor vintage, the entire crop is deemed unworthy of
bearing the Château's name; this happened nine times in the 20th century: 1910, 1915, 1930, 1951, 1952, 1964,
1972, 1974, and 1992."
2012-04-05 09:40:17 @Vinmoet
Thx for the suggestions. Maybe 1 of the San Roman Toro's I keep chained to the floor in the basement.
2012-04-05 10:35:44 Yes. I stand corrected. Thought of that after I posted but was caught up at work and could not edit. They did,
however, make a dry white wine which is reputed to be age worthy. So, while I was incorrect, it is academically a
still a possibility only its not known as a Sauternes but as a dry white from Sauternes. When I said that it existed,
it was because I had seen the dry white before. Never had it though and its not commonly known.
Just not a good vintage.
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24717 NY Pete
2012-04-05 11:54:06 NYPete, elaborate how do "double doucherolls" go well with lamb? Do you have better recommendations, since
I do grill lamb often and will continue to explore different wine pairings. Already have Zin, Cab, Bordeaux,
Burgundy to try. Much appreciate your insights.
2012-04-05 12:48:46 cbs ... go with a tempranillo or a temp blend. cheers.
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2012-04-05 12:49:14 The Kommander feels that the use of a doble serving of "doucheroll" would be counter productive to the
harmonic balance of the lamb and wine pairing.
Private Pete should best keep vinegar out of the pairing equation .
The Kommander is surprised that Pete did not suggest one of the fine cabs from his cellar
kaos out
2012-04-05 12:57:53 The Oz Cab on CW is right up my alley. I love Oz Cab, but I do not need more daily drinkers for the short term.
That said, this is tempting...
Seems like LBW can't get rid of that Moon Mountain Cab, despite the sad eyes...
2012-04-05 13:06:58 Thanks, NYPete, great idea. I will.
~
Does the marinade make a difference in the ultimate wine pairing? I think many did imply that it does.
For a matrix oriented brain like mine:
* rosemary = Zin
* sweet glaze = ?
*
*
Thanks again!
2012-04-05 13:20:43 Any experience with Vincent Arroyo Winery Bodega, Napa Valley 2006
(https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=677195)? $17.99 and FS4 on WTSO Platinum. I have had
Vincent Arroyo PS and liked it.
2012-04-05 13:50:02 @cbs - re: the Vincent Arroyo Bodega - CT notes: https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=677195
GrapeApe thought too much oak. Another poster I follow, cbbrown3, said the same.
24723 McMalbec
24724 NY Pete
24725 BrunelloBob
24726 mr21cbs
24727 BuffaloLou
2012-04-05 13:56:38 @cbs: I have 2 bottles in the cellar from a wtso purchase in September @ 2bucks a bottle more. Have not
opened a '06 but have liked most of VA's efforts in the past.
fwiw, shipping from his winery is expensive.
2012-04-05 13:58:53 kaos ... I prefer those cabs with a big fat steak.
2012-04-05 14:04:15 @cbs: I believe the rule of thumb is to pair to the sauce, not the meat, so I'd definately say the marinade makes a
difference.
Now what goes with rosemarry vs. a sweet glaze... :?
2012-04-05 14:08:12 BuffaloLou and McMalbec, skipping this one then. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
2012-04-05 14:53:07 I caved on two of the Poole's Rock Cockfighter's Ghost Cabs. I had an order shipping anyway, so I added to it.
Strictly to try... for scientific purposes.
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2012-04-05 15:22:01 Hi all I'd like to buy 6 bottles of San Roman Toro. I emailed Kristen Murphy, suggesting it be offered on "Super Cindy
Week." She wasn't sure if it will be on the list.
So, if you are considering more San Roman, feel free to email Kristen or another WL person.
Thanks!
24729 tonyo
Patrick
2012-04-05 16:25:04 http://news.yahoo.com/why-the-soul-of-mitt-romney%E2%80%99s-america-can-be-found-at-williamssonoma.html
I thought this was interesting data..........yeah, I know it's political, but it's bi-partisan
and for what it's worth, I think Williams-Sonoma is a great store (especially when they are doing a cooking
demo.....................) the veal demi-glace makes an incredible mushroom pan sauce with a bit of Madeira
24731 BrunelloBob
24732 BuffaloLou
2012-04-05 19:39:32 Gotta love the redsox...
May 5 and I'm already gonna jump off a bridge.
(T.O.: You're a gentleman for not taking the opportunity to kick me, yet)
2012-04-05 19:40:14 Enjoyed this with a grilled pork tenderloin marinated in a curry - apple sauce mix (it was fantastic, BTW!)
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1126489" rel="nofollow">2009 Ziegler
Gewurztraminer</a> - France, Alsace, Beblenheim, Alsace AOC (4/5/2012)
The nose is more impressive than the palate. Intense floral aromas on the nose while mango highlights the
tropical fruit notes. The palate features white tea, honey, and hints of botrytis with a slight stone minerality.
Tasty with curry. (88 points)
24733 tonyo
2012-04-05 20:22:29 @BB...............calling Papelbon......hello ?
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2012-04-05 20:31:20 I received a cartoon via email, but the reality is staggering...
"The largest Lotto jackpot ever, $640 MILLION, would be spend by the federal government in 95 MINUTES."
Damn, that would buy a lot of vino!
24735 mr21cbs
24736 BuffaloLou
24738 vinmoet
24739 luddite
24740 Scott W
2012-04-05 20:36:04 TonyO, Papelbon did a good job closing the first game of the season for the Phillies. I understand it was against
the Pirates, but still.
2012-04-05 20:44:40 Rec'd my order for more of the '04 Ondarre Reserva Rioja today. Thought I'd pop one I already had. This is
another (read: second) disappointing bottle. Way off balance. Too much acid and too little fruit.
2012-04-05 22:40:52 BLou: We just had one two nights ago and found it delightful. Am sorry you've had some disappointing ones. I
think we have 4 bottles left from a case bought last fall. If it comes up again, we'll get another case. Sounds like
you should open another one and when its done, then finish the disappointing bottle. If the're both bad,
well...canonball!
2012-04-06 00:31:55 @B²: Cheer up it only feels like it's "May 5" :lol:
2012-04-06 00:32:53 @Blou I have found a lot of bottle variation in the 04 Ondarre Reserva Rioja, I think I had 6 and 3 were dreadful
and 3 were excellent bottles for the money.
For me with that kind of record the Mayor was equally a good deal but without the disappointment IMHO.
24742 John O'
24743 BrunelloBob
24744 BuffaloLou
2012-04-06 04:20:47 I found variation in the Mayor, as well
2012-04-06 05:54:49 Ludds: I may have been "drowning my sorrows" at the time of that wayward calander reference....
2012-04-06 08:20:12 Sadly I'm going to have to agree with bottle variation on the ’04 Ondarre Reserva. I did have a couple that were
very, very, good, esp for the $. IIRC, I've had 3 good bottles and 2 fails; similar results to Scott.
What I'm wondering is if it's getting long in the tooth; if the fruit is fading leaving the acid to come forward...
Given that some bottles may age more quickly than others, sounds plausible. Thoughts?
24745 john o'
24748 vinmoet
2012-04-06 08:29:18 Re the Ondarre. I've had 1 of '04 reserva's and 2 of the '04 mayor reserva's. Had the reserva about 2 years ago
and it was: meh.
Had the mayor reserva about 18 months ago and it was: meh.
Had the 2nd mayor about 3 months ago and it was excellent.
2012-04-06 09:35:10 Hmmmmmm, at a 40% meh rate for the Ondarre, I've got 4 bottles of case left, the other 8 having been very
good, I should trade/sell the rest?
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2012-04-06 09:44:42 I agree the plain 'reserva' can be meh; the Mayor has been a consistent favorite and I have yet to have one that
does not impress; I'm considering buying even more since it's always $20 now; I paid $30 for it two years ago.
24750 BuffaloLou
24751 BuffaloLou
2012-04-06 10:02:11 Maybe I should pop a Mayor tonight...
2012-04-06 10:03:49 An open message to LBW: Perhaps you should have a time limit on offers. The Moon Mountain offer is growing
gray hairs...
2012-04-06 11:02:57 Happy Passover to those who celebrate!
2012-04-06 11:27:36 @joe g is a staunch supporter of the Ondarre Reserva:
24752 mr21cbs
24753 luddite
"had the 04 ondarre mayor tonight.. very solid wine but to be honest i like the cheaper reserva that
was offered just as much"
24754 vinmoet
24755 BuffaloLou
24756 mr21cbs
24757 luddite
Case closed...
2012-04-06 11:48:48 Luddite: How do you find that stuff?
2012-04-06 12:00:41 @luddite - joe must have had one of the good bottles...
@cbs - Happy Passover to you and to all our Jewish friends.
2012-04-06 12:17:57 On June 2nd, our family will be riding in the Tour de Cure for the American Diabetes Association. We signed up
for the 63 mile ride, which should be a challenge for our 11 year old sons. I know that finances are a challenge for
everyone, but if you choose to donate to this great cause, please do so on our family team site:
http://main.diabetes.org/goto/Roytman
It is tax deductible and I will send you a receipt for your donation. Thank you!
2012-04-06 12:40:13 @vinny: It's been awhile but I remember liking it enough to buy more! Haven't tried the Mayor yet but bought
some of that from WL as well...
@BLou: Other inmates that have supported the Ondarre Reserva include @AFK/winex/Wineknurd/Hinrgman.
The Knurd suggested you try the '04 Conde de Valdemar Reserva as he felt it might be more your style...
@mr21cbs: It's a done deal - best wishes to your family as you ride to support this great cause (one very near
and dear to @AFK as well).
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2012-04-06 13:00:19 @Blou and anyone else interested. Several weeks ago I mentioned that we were going to attend our monthly
wine tasters event to taste some Amarone style wines. Things have been hectic at work with the 16th rapidly
approaching, but with my wife's help, I have the following quick summary. If there are any specific questions, we
both have our scoring and comment sheets.
We ( group of 36)experienced six amarone style wines in a blind tasting: Allegrini Valpolicella (2010), tenuta
Sant'antonio Monti Garbi Ripasso Valpolicella Superiore Ripasso (2009), Zonin Amarone della Valpolicella (2007),
Michelle Castellni Colle Cristi Amarone della Valpolicella Classico (2004), Zenato Amarone Classico (2005) and
guiseppe Campagnola Amarone Classico (2007).
We were anticipating our evening exploring amarones and we were not disappointed! From the true novice to
the most sophisticated member, we all came away with some new discoveries.
By far our group's favorite was the Zenato. It has a n interesting blend of 80% Corvina, 10% Rondinella, 5%
Sangiovese and 5% Molinara. The color is a deep dark red and boasts an intense aroma of ripe black cherries,
raisins, tobacco and prunes. Several even noted the aroma of "scorched earth"!
Coming in second was the Castellani. It was interesting how different percentages of virtually the same grape
produced such different flavors. This one also had a beautiful garnet red color but seemed to have orange
nuances.
24759 Julius
2012-04-06 14:49:59 @McMalbec - I'm curious as to why you would include the 2010 Allegrini Valpolicella in the group of "Amarone
style" wines. It isn't. If you wanted to include the producer but not their Amarone, it would have been
appropriate to include their Palazzo della Torre, which truly is an Amarone like wine (and a damn good one).
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2012-04-06 16:48:09 Re: 2004 Ondarre Reserva.....good stuff........with 30,000 cases made, there has to be some variation..........well
worth the risk for the price!
@ vin vin ~ qotd.... "Luddite: How do you find that stuff?"...........answer...... the 'Professor' is well connected!
@ Jewels ~ +1 on the Palazzo della Torre......also good stuff!
A Good Friday to all!
24761 McMalbec
2012-04-06 18:26:12 @Julius: I was not on the selection committee for this meeting but will inquire as to the rational for its inclusion..
24762 vinmoet
2012-04-06 19:31:59 WTSO: 2008 Rocher-Bonregard Pomerol. A tiny Chateau that I am not familiar with. But $20 delivered?
Tempting. An inexpensive Pomerol is Rouget which sells in the $40+ range. It gets over a few hundred pretty
quickly since its such a small area.
"While the wine does have considerable tannins, it also has the ripe Merlot fruit to support it. Good acidity, black
currant fruits, smoky wood, all the elements are there. It will always be firm, but should mature well. R.V.
(2/1/2012) — WE89"
Have not tasted it. My educated guess sees concrete tanks, family member sorting fruit, partial new wood,
mostly old wood. Its likely that some corporate group buys these guys at death to pay the estate taxes and big
cash and modern consulting turns this into a 95 point wine. Until then, this is probably a leaner, old school
Bordeaux. If you are into fresh and fruity, definitely a pass. If you like old world, possibly funky wine and are a
risk taker, this is pretty tempting.
24764 wine magnet
Pomerol is tiny. Its the huber cool old school blue blood neighbor of Saint Emilion. Probably my favorite
appellation but I have no idea who these guys are.
2012-04-06 19:52:41 BLou: I wrote to Cory at LBW this morning with the same thought. He replied pretty quickly that they just
finished packing/shipping some 4000 orders from their marathon sale, all with only 3 warehouse workers! He
promised they would be back to normal by Monday, and then followed up a little later with a nice Pinot offer.
Alas, I caved for it because I like pinot with THICK, rare loin lamb chops with some fresh rosemary and I have but
a few pinots in my collection.
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2012-04-06 20:17:14 @Patrick Fear not, you'll probably see the San Roman Toro again, either in a TBTC sale, or some other WL sale.
It's a crowd favorite and usually comes around a few times
To all who celebrate: Happy Passover. I observe, but it's a long 8 days without pork, shellfish, and carbs. Tough
call between eating the matzoh and the box as to which has the least flavor.
To all the rest of the inmates Happy Easter weekend!
Just finished a 2008 Eola Hills PN.
Hmm... what wine goes with reorganizing the storage area of the laundry room?
2012-04-06 20:24:28 @magnet: I grapped that PN offer on LBW also...........seems like a good deal at $15..............just received my
2007 Qupe Syrah.....may try one this weekend after the disaster I choked down last night, a 2008 Boom Boom
Syrah.......first time I ever tasted DISTINCT pencil ERASER in a wine.....awful
2012-04-06 22:02:02 @McM - Nice to hear you enjoyed your Amarone experience! Careful, it's addictive! :lol:
@ludds - TY for the tip on the CdV.
4000 orders... three peeps... That's some work!
24768 tonyo
2012-04-06 22:10:57
24770 David T
2012-04-07 00:48:07
24771 BrunelloBob
24773 BuffaloLou
2012-04-07 07:35:51
2012-04-07 09:53:40
24774 mr21cbs
2012-04-07 10:56:21
Tonight enjoying a home dark brew my neighbor so kindly dropped off this afternoon. First time I've tried
homemade beer. Quite nice! Def some fruity notes, most notably, apple. May have to delve into this home
brewing...
one positive about this sluggish economy......just refinanced at 3.125% ......hard to believe.....I can remember
paying 9% in 1989......
@tonyo Very nice! I think we got either 4 or 4.5% when buying our house just last fall & we thought that
was great...
:
Good cheese is incredibly underrated and underappreciated IMO. I'm eating Jumi Cirone which is a raw milk
cheese from Switzerland- on the 100pt wine scale this is easily a 93+... Those big white and yellow $4/lb bricks
most grocery stores sell are the Sutter Home White Zin of cheeses...
I like Kraft macaroni and cheese.
Suburban wines has 2009 Quilceda Creek Columbia Valley Cabernet Sauvignon for $184, mags for $400. How I
love to try this...
wine magnet, I gather that you site access error was resolved. Did you do anything differently? please share
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2012-04-07 11:20:48 David T: Hear, hear! Most, if not all of the bulk cheese in supermarkets is ghastly and should not be labeled
cheese. I have not had Jumi Cirone, but will be on the lookout for it. I love the variety of mostly imported
cheeses offered in the gourmet cheese coolers at most if not all Costco stores. Among my favorites: Delice De
Bourgogne, Coastal English Cheddar, Henri Hutin , Brie, Societe Roquefort, Ossau Iraty. Among the domestic
cheeses at Costco, it is hard to beat the Cabot 3 year old Cheddar, which comes in an approximately 2 lb.
black/purple package. Now that my mouth is watering, I'll have to take one or more of these to this afternoon's
wine tasting (unless I can find the Jumi Cirone).
For the anti-Yankees out there: How about the Rays comeback last night? Carlos Pena's first at bat after
returning to a Ray's uniform was a grand slam, then, down in the count against Mariano Riviera (against whom
Carlos was 0-11), in the bottom of the 9th, drove in the winning run. That was a sold out game, tonight's is sold
out, and Sunday will probably be as well. If the Rays sweep the Yanks, I'll celebrate with something special from
my cellar tonight!
24777 wine magnet
2012-04-07 11:25:10 Michael:
Thanks for your efforts yesterday, but I could not get onto the site from my office computer no matter what I
tried, so I copied the URL from my laptop at home (where access was not a problem), emailed it to myself, and
pasted it into my browser (Firefox) this morning and...bingo, I am on again!
24778 tonyo
2012-04-07 12:08:35 @wine magnet: guess Mo Rivera got his one blown save for teh year out of the way early.....
2012-04-07 12:24:52 As all know, the Kommander is a fan of national league baseball, the ny Mets in particular however, your
Kommander took time out of his busy schedule and enjoyed quite a few kraft brews while enjoying one of the
best games (defensively and offensively he has seen in quite a while. While not a fan of the ny Yanks, they did
play a gutsy game. The machine known as Rivera, blew a fuse and the Rays got their hard earned win.
kaos out
24780 David T
2012-04-07 13:43:43 @wine magnet I got it at the flagship Wegman's in Rochester NY. It was a hard cheese and had a nice earthiness
to it. I agree with the Cabot as being a great domestic producer. I will have to keep my eye out for some of your
favorites.
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2012-04-07 17:29:57 Wine Magnet, glad to see you here again, and no effort on my part. Not to further confuse BrunelloBob with our
technical jibber jabber, but with the server upgrade we got a new IP address assigned to our site, some DNS
servers (those that match your social security numbers to your names) do not get the updates right away and
take 48-72 hours to propagate. Your office system could also be blocking an unknown IP address as well. From
your post I assume that you are able to connect at home and at the office. If not, then it is your network that
needs to be checked out for blocking...
~
I assume that everyone else has no problems accessing the asylum, otherwise, please shout!
24782 BrunelloBob
2012-04-07 17:37:08 Servers propagate?
Is that where baby servers come from?
2012-04-07 17:54:17 Server porn on TH! You can't top that! (TWSS)
2012-04-07 20:52:48 We are planning a California wine country getaway for May 3-6th. Most likely flying into Los Angeles driving to
San Francisco, while stopping to drink, eat, and enjoy everything in between. Any recommendations on places to
spend a night, wineries not to miss, and where to dine would be greatly appreciated. It's been a long time since
my last trip to CA, and we are up for the adventure.
Thank you!
24783 mr21cbs
24784 mr21cbs
24785 vinmoet
2012-04-07 21:07:04 cbs: I get that we might be associated with staying at better places, which we have, but we much rather spend
money on serious food as long as the place is clean. In San Fran we like to have a car. Not so much for around
the city, but to get outside of the City. If you stay anywhere, they ding you pretty heavily for parking. Thus, this
solution. Its a Chinese owned mom and pop travelodge with FREE parking located on the border between China
Town and Little Italy. Its literally a 3 block walk to the most serious restaurants in the City. You're looking at
$100+/- with parking. AAA discount is the best price. http://www.royalpacificmotorinn.com/ If you want
something higher end and more romantic than cost effective, then this is not your place.
24786 mr21cbs
2012-04-07 21:20:31 Vinmoet, cheap and clean is the name of the game. It will be 4 of us and we will rent a car. Most likely we'll
spend nights along the way. Any wineries that you visited during your recent trip that are a must to visit? I will
check out your notes.
2012-04-07 23:05:14 Just got back from a slaughtering; The Bandits of Buffalo clipped the Wings of Philadelphia, 17-7. It was nice to
see a great game after the pitiful performance last week.
2012-04-07 23:07:53 @cbs: For wine and views, as recommended to Vinny (who apparantly blew it off ;) )
http://www.nepenthebigsur.com/
24789 BuffaloLou
24790 BrunelloBob
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2012-04-07 23:51:52 And...the dreaded Yankees went down again to the Rays, celebrated with some '93 Leoville las Cases, courtesy of
a great deal from Mitch at thewinetobuy.com.
@mr21cbs: Is this wine tour just your family, or are your twins staying at home? I will see what I might find for
early in your trip in the Santa Barbara area, should you be interested. There I would recommend visiting
Beckmen vineyards and several others if you have the time. I'll ask relatives there about accommodations.
24792 BuffaloLou
2012-04-08 00:09:35 Never heard of this before: I read that there is a drink called a "Black Velvet". It's half Guinness Stout and half
champagne. Sounds pretty good to me. Anyone ever hear of it or better still, try it?
Update: from the Guinness website:
GUINNESS® mixed fifty fifty with Champagne. This famous drink was invented in 1861 at Brook's Club in
London. Prince Albert had died, everyone was in mourning, and the story goes that the steward at the club,
overcome with the emotion of the occasion, ordered that even the champagne should be put into mourning, and
proceeded to mix it with GUINNESS®. The taste was so delicious, Black Velvet became extremely popular.
24793 David T
24794 tonyo
2012-04-08 01:26:17 @mr21cbs Unfortunately we will miss each other by less than a week in SF (we will be there the last week of
April) but I'm sure we will meet at the Philly offline... here is where we are staying, with good Tripadvisor reviews
for a reasonable price, and also free parking. columbusmotorinn.com
2012-04-08 08:25:33 Happy Easter !
For the cheese lovers, this farm is the best:
http://www.jasperhillfarm.com/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=1&Itemid=147
24795 wine magnet
2012-04-08 08:55:28 Tonyo: Jasper Hill makes wonderful cheeses, and I wish it was available at Costco, Trader Joes, etc., but then it
would probably have to be mass produced and would lose the artisan flavors. I have found some of it at Whole
Foods (Bayley Hazen blue) and at Bern's, but it is pretty costly for my wallet for regular consumption.
24796 BuffaloLou
24797 tonyo
2012-04-08 09:01:53 Happy Easter Inmates!
2012-04-08 09:27:05 @wine magnet: not cheap here either (the Bayley Hazen runs around $23/lb, but a little goes a long way)....that
Blue with a little honey drizzled on it with some candied pecans and a glass of Spatlese...........no better pairing
IMO..........just might have to add that to the table today
2012-04-08 09:28:52 @TO - I like any blue cheese with a slice of red pear and a walnut half. Mmmmm good!
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2012-04-08 09:37:08 @BL: that is a good one....have had a salad with that (some frisee and bacon lardons tossed with some aged
Balsmaic and Agave nectar....tasty !)
2012-04-08 10:34:44 Y'all are making me mighty hungry... tonyo a similar salad combo also works mighty well- fry bacon, caramelize
onions in the bacon fat, flash wilt spinach with the onions once caramelized, top with crumbled bacon, balsamic
and blue cheese
Happy Easter!!
2012-04-08 10:46:16 @David T - aren't holidays all about eating and drinking? ;)
@TO - damn tasty!
2012-04-08 11:58:03 @BLou Not today, when working 14 hours :/
2012-04-08 13:38:46 Wine Magnet, 4 adults, no kids are going to California.
2012-04-09 09:28:32 So, I left my credit card at a restaurant in Indy For the last 6 weeks, my card has only been used for online
purchases.
Needless to say, the Mrs. just had a conversation with me about a WIWBM.
24815 mr21cbs
Rut roh!
2012-04-09 11:18:49 Is anyone having any problems accessing this site from your home, work, mobile devices? [If are able to read this
then obviously you access it, but are you or did you encounter any access problems recently?]
~
I am only aware of the Wine Magnet's problems... Anyone else?
24816 ptaylor2112
2012-04-09 13:22:31 @mr21cbs - Over the last couple of weeks, I have noticed that this site causes my Internet Explorer to crash. I get
a message something like "A problem with the webpage has caused Internet Explorer to stop working."
24817 luddite
24818 hinrgman
24819 BuffaloLou
2012-04-09 13:50:34 @ptaylor2112: Friends don't let friends use Internet Explorer!
2012-04-09 13:51:31 Last Bottle in NYC - City Winery - http://createsend.com/t/r-CC920330F34A6860
2012-04-09 14:23:06 @cbs - no problems here. (other than the obvious! ;) )
24820 mr21cbs
You da man keeping this a well oiled machine!
2012-04-09 14:32:33 ptaylor2112, I have not added anything new lately that could cause your IE to crash. I use Google Chrome, and
aside from videos posted by Yahoo, nothing crashes that thing. Can you consistently reproduce the error? What
page usually crashes IE? What is the version of your Windows and IE?
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2012-04-09 17:42:09 @mr21cbs - I'll let you know when it happens again. I'm such a luddite that I don't know what version of
Windows I'm running. I think it is Windows 7. I think it crashes when I go to either the homepage or the
/discussion page. Those are the only two that I frequent. I'm sure it's a problem on my end. I miss my Mac from
previous employers...
On to more important things: I am opening a terrific Spanish red tonight. Am going to submit it as the QPR of the
day. Yum!
24822 McMalbec
2012-04-09 18:01:13
24823 Waiting in Manassas 2012-04-09 18:30:34
24824 BuffaloLou
24825 BuffaloLou
2012-04-09 19:02:02
2012-04-09 19:12:58
patrick
@vin: have been keeping my eyes pealed on the 2009 Bordeaux offerings and saw on today at Gary's Wine and
Marketplace- Chateau de L'Estang for $11.99 plus $1 shipping for orders of less than a case. JJB has it for $10.99
plus shipping. Are you familiar with this on? TIA!
@mr21cbs I'm stuck with IE because that's what they've got on my work computer. I'm going to add Google
Chrome at home because I've had the same problems as patrick.
@BLou Having a red pear with gorgonzola and a glass of Produttori del Barbaresco Langhe Nebbiolo 2008. What
a great pairing, and Passover friendly too!
Bought a giant standing glass vase to hold all my corks and it's already full. Guess I need another one, or else
figure out something else to do with them!
Did Patrick say something about a Spanish red head? :lol:
@WiM - I am not experienced with Nebbiolo. What about it's flavor profile makes it a good pairing (no pun
intended... )? I love the two, and a good pairing is of interest to me...
Also, I will no longer complain about any Catholic religious restrictions. I was not familiar with Kosher Passover
requirements, so I just looked them up. Oh my, you guys are strict!
24826 mr21cbs
2012-04-09 19:43:23 I did not say that our site doesn't work with IE. it should, and I will start testing it. I have a 64-bit Windows 7 box
so mine may still be different from your setup.
IE 9 seems to be faster than before, but I still prefer the cleanliness of Chrome.
24827 Waiting in Manassas 2012-04-09 19:47:04 @BLou The fruitiness of the nebbiolo balances the taste of the cheese and the nuttiness of the red pear.I'm
surprised the gorgonzola didn't overwhelm it. I'm also using my burgundy glass which gives the wine more room
to shine. Passover is my least favorite holiday and it's a long 8 days of doing without pork, shellfish and bread.
Always celebrate the end with pizza and wine.
24829 BuffaloLou
2012-04-09 22:39:16 @WiM - TY! I see the exact bottle you have is available locally. I'm going to try to get one and try it!
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2012-04-09 23:03:06 Patrick, been there and slept in that dog house many time before. I accidentally left my CT account up on the
wife's macbook and she promptly asked me how I had 60 bottles pending delivery! I informed her that many of
those were ordered a long time ago and were just waiting to be shipped. The real question at hand was how
many bottles defined "many." My reasoning was a couple was 2, a few 3, and many 4. The other 56 were within
about a week of the incident. Opened a couple of the Chester's Anvil offerings from the Berserker Day offerings:
Gretna Green (white Rhone blend from Cali) and the Malbec. I must say these were outstanding wines. I had
never tasted a Chester's Anvil wine before, but I think I am a fan so far.
24835 vinmoet
2012-04-10 10:03:13 MacMalbec: Not familiar with it. Here are the Parker notes:
Wine Advocate #188
Apr 2010 Robert Parker (87-90) Drink: 2010 - 2016 $11
Another sleeper of the vintage, the opaque ruby/purple-tinged 2009 l’Estang exhibits lots of sweet black currant
and black cherry fruit intermixed with a hint of vanillin. Medium to full-bodied, with surprisingly pure,
concentrated, lengthy flavors, it should drink well for 5-6 years. (Tasted once.)
24836 McMalbec
24837 BuffaloLou
This is from Castillion which is south of Saint Emilion and on a much lower elevation. The land is inexpensive
there so a number of flamboyant winemakers who work for the big boys buy their own places in the region to
make wines. We are talking terroir which is radically different from Saint Emilion even though they are close to
each other. Tends to be the region of QPR wines. Sounds like a solid buy for the money, just don't have rock star
expectations.
2012-04-10 11:59:52 @vin: Thanks for your analysis. I think I will hold off.
2012-04-10 12:43:57 Attn Mac users: Flashback virus has infected over 600,000 Macs in the USA. Info on it and how to remove it here:
http://www.krdo.com/news/30862161/detail.html
and here:
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/17371047/a-flashback-virus-that-is-impacting-mac-users
or just 'Google' it.
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2012-04-10 22:26:04 Any thoughts on tonight's CW deal (the priorat)? Sounds like a killer deal; I'm just always skeptical of wines with
age (storage).
Popped another '04 Ondarre Reserva tonight. This might be the best bottle yet! It has dusty tannins like a
Rutherford Cab Sauv! Balanced. Absolutely rockin'! Solid 91, perhaps 92.
2012-04-10 22:39:49 This is specifically for Sir. PTaylor2112. Posting this test from Internet Explorer just to make sure that it works. I
am running IE 9 (Version 9.0.8.8112.16421; 64-bit edition; Cipher Streangth 256-bit). On Windows 7, which is
also 64-bit.
~
If you let me know what is your system setup is, I can try to replicate your environment and address why your IE
crashes. Or it can be a complete mistery, as many other bugs in Windows and other microsoft products. :twisted:
2012-04-10 22:45:06 @cbs - love the humor! :lol:
Thought: there aren't many better guilty pleasures than egg salad...
2012-04-10 22:50:45 BuffaloLou, that is not humor. Windows XP is compiled from 45 million lines of code
(http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/history). Windows 7 should be slimmer but not by much. You
don't think there are misterries in that mess?
2012-04-10 23:02:57
I am soooo proud of my son! Tonight, he was one of six boys nominated out of a Troop of over 70 boys to be a
part of the Order of the Arrow, Scouting's "Honor Society"; those that express and live the Boy Scout Oath and
Law. In June he will participate in an "Ordeal" weekend of service where he, and the other candidates from the
Council, will set-up the camp for the Cub Scouts Summer Camp. It's a weekend of service, selflessness, control,
mind over body (there are certain 'requirements'), self-reliance and dedication.
24847 BuffaloLou
24848 McMalbec
2012-04-10 23:13:00 @cbs - I highly doubt any software as sophisticated as an operating system is without bugs. Windows has them,
Mac OS has them, Linux has them. That said, I think Windows has more than it's share. Anyway, I thought your
statement was funny! :)
2012-04-10 23:45:24 @BLou: congrats to your son and you. I have met some wonderful men through Scouting and OA.
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2012-04-10 23:47:23 @BLou Congrats to Scout Alex!
:
My employer needs to hire new people in the payroll department. In addition to the large tax payment I just
made the feds, I completed my state return tonight only to find I owe them several hundred dollars as well. WTF.
24850 BuffaloLou
2012-04-10 23:52:10 @McMalbec - TY! I, too, have met some wonderful people through Scouting/OA. I'm very excited for my son,
knowing the track he's on. I can't wait until he joins us as a 'Brother'.
@David T - TY, too! BTW, you need to talk to your accountant and get your deductions straightened out!
24851 Pats-Pwr
24852 BuffaloLou
2012-04-10 23:55:37 @BLou: Congrats to your son! Was never a scout myself but have been involved with Troop 2 in Lawrence, MA
since high school.
@David T: Ouch, that sucks. Time to adjust those withholdings for next year.
2012-04-11 00:06:50 @Pats-Pwr - Thanks John! And thank you for all you're doing with your Troop! Successful units (Packs, Troops,
Crews, Posts) all have a common factor: trained adult participation! (Sorry, the 'Council' hat is hard to take off... )
BTW - You're keeping the pounds off... Congrats!
24853 David T
24858 mr21cbs
24859 BrunelloBob
24860 BuffaloLou
2012-04-11 00:25:54 The federal withholding has already been adjusted. I just found the state form and will fax it to payroll tomorrow.
Unfortunately Ohio offers next to no deductions; I use TurboTax for the federal which is a lot cheaper than an
accountant and believe me I maximized every deduction it offered me; I don't need someone to nickle &
dime my way into an audit.
2012-04-11 08:39:27 DavidT, I work for a tax software company, and although we only do corporate taxes (income, sales/use/VAT,
telecommunication, and payroll), I know a thing or two about taxes although I am not an accountant. Ohio is not
the most complex state. Try NY or PA. You can only deduct your mortgage interest. Maximize your pre-tax
retirement investment. GEt a flexible spending account for medical expenses. We consulted a financial adviser a
while ago to learn how to pay less to Uncle Sam.
~
Now that we both work, have 3 kids, house, IRA/Roth IRA/ 401K, etc. we still can't deduct much because we are
not poor. This is totally efed up, but we are not complaining.
2012-04-11 08:46:16 You all need to start paying the sales tax on your internet wine purchases and quit your crying. :cry:
(I kill me, again)
2012-04-11 09:29:07 @cbs - Nah, NY is easy: "What's left over after paying Uncle Sam? Good, give it to us." Tax made easy! :lol:
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2012-04-11 09:32:51 BrunelloBob, we do. Aren't you?
It's just called Consumer Use Tax. Calculate what your state is missing from you buying it from other states (selfasses) and send it to your favorite department of revenue.
2012-04-11 09:42:10 PTaylor2112, after a few tries my IE9 also crashed! I will look for what might have caused it and how to fix it.
Here is the problem signature:
~
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name:
APPCRASH
Application Name:
iexplore.exe
Application Version:
9.0.8112.16421
Application Timestamp:
4d762323
Fault Module Name:
MSHTML.dll
Fault Module Version:
9.0.8112.16441
Fault Module Timestamp:
4ee85185
Exception Code:
c0000005
Exception Offset:
0000000000223690
OS Version:
6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID:
1033
Additional Information 1:
3e50
3e50f4cdd4e4420bb25b852dd9c5c820
89a4
89a4f084b7af76766845fbfcb40b5588
2012-04-11 10:30:49 PTaylor2112 and our other less fortunate friends that must be using Internet Explorer for internet browsing. Here
is a possible resolution to fix the IE crashes (possible because I haven't tested it long enough to say for sure, but
so far it hasn't crashed ;)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/webpages-look-incorrect-in-Internet-Explorer
~
Enable Compatibility mode for our site. I did it for the http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/ and all child
pages are automatically subjected to the compatibility mode. I have not tried the rest of the suggestions yet, as I
am testing it one at a time.
~
Please report back if it did/didn't fix the problem.
2012-04-11 11:26:50 @CBS: I Self-ass very well, Thank You!
2012-04-11 12:06:11 BrunelloBob, I knew you would like that! You crack me up!
We all should be thankful that we don't live in California: http://wp.joshuatreestar.com/?p=4876
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2012-04-11 12:36:59 Congrats to PT on his first QPR of the day!
Congrats to Scout Alex! What an honor!
DavidT you have my sympathy. I've got my 401K and my catch-up (you're too young for that one) maxed out, and
I try and keep my level of charitable contributions up every year but it's tough even with the mortgage
deduction. Agree with mr21cbs' suggestions as well.
So, has anyone been tempted by the Ship4Free offer on Empire? Col Solare 2006 for $49.95 per and signed by
the winemaker... not that I need more wine, of course! I need a dishwasher that gently handles wine glasses first!
24867 BuffaloLou
2012-04-11 13:11:59 TY Sheila!
It amazes me laws like CA's Use Tax are legal. Paying for something you may or may not have or did not
purchase(d)? WTF?!
Went in for a six pack of the current Banner Deal. Could not resist a review like JS gave it!
JS's review: 91 Points. This is like a big, juicy, Amarone-style red, with loads of coffee, dried fruit and raisin.
Full and juicy, with a long finish. A full-throttle style. Sangiovese, Cabernet Sauvignon and Merlot. Best after
2010.
24868 NaH
2012-04-11 14:30:06
2012-04-11 15:24:46
24871 mr21cbs
2012-04-11 15:38:01
2012-04-11 15:49:09
CT notes sound great, too!
@WiM. Hahahaha. Did you run out and purchase varietally correct wine glasses?
@NaH Only two Riedel Tempranillo glasses. I've got bordeaux, Burgundy, Oregon PN, Champagne and Sauv Blanc
glasses. Debating about their Sangio/Riesling and the Cuvee' Prestige bubbly glasses as I prefer that shape to
what I've got already. However, if I want to host a group at my place, I really need an option other than hand
washing 30+ glasses. I liked that Joe G had a separate DW for his wine glasses, but that won't work for me in the
townhouse.
@WiM, what happened to the plain old plastic for parties of 30+?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZqGJONH68
@mr21cbs ROFLMAO! 30+ glasses are for groups of 6 people or less. 30+ folks is a whole different type of party.
Don't think I'd want 30+ folks wandering through my wine cellar unattended... I'd have to hide the real high end
stuff away somewhere else so it didn't get opened by mistake!
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2012-04-11 16:13:07 @WiM, 6 person is a small family gathering for me. A few close friends over and you have a 30+ person shindig.
They drink with TJMaxx acquired glasses, which will be hand washed by me.
~
My wine rule is: you touch anything higher end in my cellar without my permission - you are off the invitation
list, I will unfriend you on Facebook, and will post your cell phone to the tele-spammers network.
24874 vinmoet
24875 BrunelloBob
2012-04-11 16:15:01 cbs: My cellar is locked. Life is much easier that way.
2012-04-11 16:21:36 The only thing in my house with a lock on it is the wine cellar (the good one, not the WTWC with the daily
drinkers in it).
x
And I believe the CBS rule re: tele-spammers should become part of the Trembling Hills Charter. :lol:
2012-04-11 17:40:38 @mr21cbs I like the way you think! You and the mrs have an open invite! Unfortunately, since my passive cellar
is in the basement there's no way to lock folks out. I usually hand wash glasses with only hot water and dry with a
flour sack towel, and have done so since my DW started leaking years ago. I usually manage to survive without it
but think it's time to break down and get a new one.
2012-04-11 18:20:11 @WiM How do you get rid of the red lipstick if you are just cleaning with hot water? It never washes off for me
when I clean my glasses.
2012-04-11 18:59:38 @NaH I just rub my fingers over it, or a clean washcloth. I saw an online video about cleaning them this way and
it's always worked well for me. Of course, the water has to be really hot, and you have to make sure to go around
the rim pretty well. TWSS... ;-)
2012-04-11 19:19:04 @BLou: R U in on the wine woot Clayhouse PS? I've had Clayhouse Cab from a way back woot and really liked it.
24878 NaH
24880 louas
Back from a week in NY. Great food and wine. More news later
24882 jpakma
2012-04-11 19:45:00 @BLou Joe Roberts, aka 1WineDude is doing a bracket type review of 16 Petite Sirah wines. Know they're in your
wheelhouse, thought you might want to check them out:
http://www.1winedude.com/
@mr21cbs Thanks for the QPR from Kaella. I do adore that wine!
2012-04-11 19:50:34 @WiM and mr21cbs you crack me up I too would hide the good stuff. Heck, I've been known to hide the "good"
bottle that was opened and make everyone else drink from the "other" bottles. Unfortunately, a good portion of
my closer friends don't enjoy wine as much as I do.
2012-04-11 20:08:15 @jpakma Yes, I know that makes me sound like a horrible wine snob, but that's how I roll! Most of my friends
aren't wine geeks like we are on here, but the neighbors are getting better palates as I've been bringing my wines
to dinner with them for years now. But even they get the good cellar defenders, of which I have quite a lot.
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2012-04-11 20:21:03 @wim: way to sneak in a TWSS............I am always watching for those (and apologies, which have been
nonexistent lately................)
2012-04-11 20:38:45 @tonyo Thx for catching that one... I was chuckling as I was typing!
Phillies offense just exploded in the 3rd, now we need the Flyers to do the same!
2012-04-11 21:03:18 Someone call BDude and tell him to get over to Cindy...
2012-04-11 21:07:36 @BB it's going to be difficult to avoid that Cindy offer
2012-04-11 21:07:38 @NaH: Stop wearing that red lipstick when you are drinking your wine and you won't have that problem with
your glasses. :-)
2012-04-11 21:38:05 Male breast reduction with financing available....this is just one amazing country.
Say good night O'Neill
2012-04-11 22:22:10 Brooks, one of my first jobs was building data services for US Healthcare, now owned by Aetna. A few things
struck me as unusual: we had 3 options for person's gender (male, female, in-transition). And to support the 3rd
option the state of Georgia was covering the sex change operation and recovery. This is an amazing country.
2012-04-11 22:27:09 Way to go FLYERS!!!
Way to get some offense, Phillies!
A great night to be a Philly sports fan!
2012-04-11 22:30:35 @louas - I picked up a 2/1 offer from woot on the Clayhouse PS in an earlier offer. I'm thinking of popping one
tonight to make a quick decision. I'll report back.
@WiM - TY for the link!! Very kind of you to remember! BTW, yeah, the Kaella Rose' is rockin'!
2012-04-11 22:49:45 Sheila rediscovers the hills
wuwt
2012-04-11 23:10:33 Nick Swisher is a goofball but he came through tonight !
2012-04-11 23:34:20 NYPete, good luck to your Devils. This won't be easy.
2012-04-11 23:44:28 On Saturday I am heading off for a week in Las Vegas to attend NAB Show 2012 and I just realized I never
checked if any other Inmates are going to be in town and interested in meeting.up for dinner or just drinks.
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2012-04-11 23:50:54 @louas – re: Clayhouse PS - I popped an '09 Block 87 PS (Red Cedar Vineyard, Paso Robles). Color is opaque
purple-black. Aromatics on the PnP were robust, with intense black and blue fruits leading the way and smoke, a
hint of tobacco, and beef jerky following. It's a tannic beast at the moment that really needs cellaring; decanting
at the least. Plenty of mouth drying tannins give a dry cotton-mouth finish. The palate is a little challenged at
the moment; but I think that's because I popped it 5 minutes ago and did not decant. 14.1% ABV and you
wouldn't know it. I'll report back in a bit as this breathes, but I did go in for "2 deals" on woot. I think this will be
a winner with some cellaring. At $16/bottle, it's a buy.
Update: with some swirling, and a little more time, the palate is starting to show some intense black fruits, but
certainly not OTT. Mouthfeel started out a bit thin, but is becoming more intense with air.
Update II: Whoa! This is starting to explode in the glass! Tasting more cola, perhaps cherry cola. Starting to
think it should have been a '3 deal buy' instead of a '2 deal buy'...
24898 BuffaloLou
24899 A Frayed Knot
2012-04-12 00:13:00 "Top 100 Tuesday" coming to WTSO on Tuesday, April 24th - Just what my cellar, and credit card, needs...
Anyway, should be interesting.
2012-04-12 01:17:01 Thanks Brooks.........there goes my stake in www.mansiere.com .....way to go bro!
24901 vinmoet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZJ8Jxt9qrM
2012-04-12 08:21:26 I hand wash the wine glasses. Fill sink with water, high grade dish soap, and ammonia. An alternative is to use a
spray bottle of Windex rinsing with tap water. The ammonia takes anything oily, even lipstick, right off.
2012-04-12 08:46:34 @NYP I'm always in the Hills, but I don't always post.
24904 louas
2012-04-12 09:50:47 Thanks Blou. I decided to sit it out. Credit cards took a beating on NYC trip. Had a couple memorable meals in
downtown Manhattan. The first featured delicate handmade pasta at a place called Spina. 1/2 price wines that
night so we explored a wine I had never even heard of called Scioppettino. From Friuli. The perfect wine for a
great evening.
Also had a great meal at Peasant. Wood fired everything. Ms. Louas devoured spit roasted hen and I did the
same to porchetta with roasted potatoes. Started with Burrata with wood roasted tomatoes. Yowza. Nice wine
too, can't remember the name. Deli, seafood, Passover feasting. A solid 5 pounds in just 7 days
thankyouverymuch.
2012-04-12 12:50:34 Bit of a sale going on at JJ Buck...
2012-04-12 13:26:45 Yea, I struck before posting....Great White Burgs, Lafon 09 charmes 30% off!!
24907 BrunelloBob
24908 johnr
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2012-04-12 13:40:23 Valdicava Roso, Fuligni Rosso (both hard to get at discount) and a 1995 Castelgicondo Bdm (1995 is a great
vintage and I thought they were All gone). Threw in some interesting whites to round out the order...
24910 BrunelloBob
24911 johnr
24912 ptaylor2112
2012-04-12 13:47:47 Someone poached the last of a vintage Schramsburg sparkler out from underneath me...
2012-04-12 14:22:33 ALL of the good stuff was gone by 1:30pm. 08 JJ Prum under $20.
2012-04-12 14:56:52 Does anyone know about the Burgundies on the JJ Buckley sale?
24913 BrunelloBob
24914 KaellaDave
24915 johnr
24916 BrunelloBob
24917 johnr
If not, we need a Vinmoet of Burgundy.
2012-04-12 14:59:25 I don't think anybody knows anything about Burgundy. If we did, we wouldn't be hanging out on a "discount"
wine site. :lol:
(Vinmoet excepted, perhaps)
2012-04-12 16:06:36 Hi folks. Someone altered me to something of interest over here. :)
Let me say hello and thank you for the shout out on the 2011 Rose'!
2012-04-12 16:39:18 @PTaylor....To answer your question the whites were much better than the reds. They had some nice Lafons
and Ramonets but, they went fast. I got 1 of each. Mostly 1cru no Grands but you are never going to get Grands
on sale unless they are crap vintages, they are just too small on quantities. The reds were the middle of road,
mainly village and few nice Faivelley 1cru mixed in. A few nice MF Mugiards but again no real baller deals. I did
see a Les Suchot from Jadot. Jadot above village level makes really nice stuff. I did see a few nice Volnays. LBW
had a ton of Lafarges a little bit ago, he is great producer, especially his Chenes. They had a few 04 Clos de Tart,
but 04 is a wildly uneven vintage in the region. The inmates will tell you that if it was good, it would have been
gone long before it got posted here. BB and I don't play games with wine retailers.
2012-04-12 17:34:37 Welcome Dave, don't let johnr scare you. :lol:
x
Speaking of/to JohnR: We could use a bit more of that Burg knowledge around here, buddy. Especially on the
reds. ("Johnmoet" ? nahhh... :) )
2012-04-12 19:09:26 @BB.....considering the abuse the Blou takes on a daily basis here and abroad, I am quite happy to merely lurk
and post from time to time.
2012-04-12 19:14:54 Welcome, @KaellaDave! Glad you came to visit when my favorite rose' was the QPR! Don't be a stranger here in
the Hills! We all take our meds and play (reasonably) well together!
I sent @luddite a list on the Buckley sale and he only came out with the '07 Prum for under $20 ea. Must've been
crazy early on, things were popping out as I was looking right at the official start of the sale.
@BB Saw that aged sparkler and had it on my list to no avail, also the two Rossos and the aged BdM
Not that I really need any more wine...
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2012-04-12 20:05:55 @PTHC: We're young yet, Plenty of time to drink accumulated wine!
.
@JR: Somehow I doubt you fear "abuse" ;)
.
Anyone seen the 'Knurd lately?
2012-04-12 22:41:03 I'd like to extend a warm welcome to Kaella Dave, but Dave, you need to show some manners! That icon of
yours... blowing us a raspberry with your first post?! :lol:
@BB & JR - I agree with BB, we need more JR around here! Miss you posting, JR!
24921 tonyo
24922 A Frayed Knot
Another Patrick Lesec CdP on Cindy tonight. Seems like a really good price for a respectable CdP. Anyone have
any thoughts/input?
2012-04-12 23:00:13 always hoping that the CdP offered will be the Domaine Grand Veneur............my favorite , by far
2012-04-13 01:32:36 @Sir TonyO ~ The '09 is 30% off at JJ Buckley ....... that makes it 27.99 and a great year at that!
I haven't had it, but if its anything like the CdR (the first TH qpr by the way) it must be rockin'!
@BB ~ SPOT!! has lost his spots.......oh my!
24924 BrunelloBob
24927 BuffaloLou
Goodnight Brooksie!..........and Johnboy!!
2012-04-13 06:50:40 @AFK: SPOT!! is glad you noticed. (S)he's had some "work" done...
2012-04-13 10:07:58 I don't remember where I got this link (If it was from someone here, well, seeing as I can't apologize, please don't
take offense), but here's a nice recipe for short ribs, braised with Petite Sirah (or your favorite red). I hope to try
it this weekend.
http://www.tayloreason.com/corkscrew/tasty-food/recipe-petite-sirah-braised-short-ribs/
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2012-04-13 12:37:25 Speaking of ribs..........pork not beef..........I have a few friends that are, as they're known around here, pit
masters. I've combined the things that I liked about their recipes mixed with mine and after a little trial (and
plenty of error), I've gotten my recipe to the point where I like it. Not too hot, not too sweet. The plan is to
eventually market it locally, sooo, I need some input from the TH crowd.
Just send me your address and I'll send you enough to smoke a rack of ribs. Smoke a rack using my rub and some
the way you usually do and give me your comments, suggestions, or snide remarks!
Also good on pork shoulder, butt, tenderloin, and even chicken. Just rub it on, wrap in plastic wrap, refrigerate 4
hours to overnight, and then smoke as you normally do. Be sure to use it on a grill or smoker. The smoke does
something to the spices and it's just not the same in the oven.
texasheritagebulbs at gmail dot com
Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming!
24929 BrunelloBob
24930 A Frayed Knot
2012-04-13 12:53:43 Generous offer AFK, but we don't smoke meat in Connecticut.
Most of us are herbivours, however, if there are other shipping options... :lol: :lol: :lol:
2012-04-13 13:03:30 Don't look SPOT!!
24931 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tviyAIS9c_U
2012-04-13 13:10:10 @AFK - TY for the offer! Email sent. Can't wait to try it!
24932 tonyo
24934 Pats-Pwr
re: smoking - do you recommend any particular type of wood to smoke with the rub? I usually use apple or
hickory.
2012-04-13 13:39:14 @AFK: address sent............speaking of the "Beef, It's What's for Dinner" commercials............how much of a tool
is Matthew MCaughneheny (I'm sure that is spelled wrong but you know the dude).....they are hilarious......
2012-04-13 15:22:22 Welcome to the Asylum, @KaellaDave! You didn't want to use the "winestein" handle here in The Hills?
@AFK: Thanks for the offer, I will shoot you an email as well. Maybe I will use it to smoke up a rack to share at
Josie's Garden Party III in July and get everyone's feedback for you. That is if I can hold off that long to try it. ;-)
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2012-04-13 15:59:25 I came up with 'winestein' and joined WLTV long before Kaella Winery was even born. I thought since I had to
come up with something here, I may as well do something different. I make my own dry rub and smoke in a
digital Bradley. Getting to be about that time of year, I'll email AFK to give his a try.
24938 tonyo
2012-04-13 17:25:57 Bill "The Spaceman" Lee (former MLB pitcher and current loon/winemaker) will be at a local wine shop signing
bottles of his wine......that should be interesting...."Hey Bill, what would you pair with Panama Red"?
24939 BuffaloLou
2012-04-13 18:22:49 @KaellaDave - How do you like the Bradley, Dave? I've heard good things about them, but they are pricy.
24941 BrunelloBob
24942 mr21cbs
2012-04-13 20:00:56 Don't get The Spaceman too F-up, I need him to pitch this season.
2012-04-13 21:41:39 Does anybody want to play goalie for the Flyers or the Pinguins? This hockey game forces me to switch to hard
liqueur.
2012-04-13 21:49:45 @mr21cbs That's funny, the goal-a-thon forced me to switch to water. And sweet potato chips...
24944 mr21cbs
24945 BuffaloLou
24946 McMalbec
2012-04-13 22:26:51 @WiM I was writing this when we were down 4:5 in a span of a few seconds. WOW! That was a heart attack
game.
2012-04-13 22:34:25 Triple D. It's da bomb!
2012-04-13 22:55:57 I've got the computer virus blues( RELAX- all day repair fixed it) . Techie said be very careful opening emails, even
if they appear to be from someone you know if they look at all unusual {ie, no subject line}.
Unwinding tonight with some ear candy from the 70's. Remember this great performance?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hL8GwidZcg&feature=related
24947 vinmoet
2012-04-13 23:01:10 I have tried apple wood, cherry wood, and even grape from my own grape vine roots. Bottom line is that hickory
provides the most wonderful, intense smoke flavor. We did strip steaks on a gas grill tonight. Placed on the
upper rack after the iron smoke box containing the hickory chips started to smoke. Smoke the heck out of them
and then place them on a dish to cool outside. Still red inside. Then, when ready to eat, char them on the 800
degree iron grates so they are black on the outside, red on the inside, and smoke laden. Match that to a solid
Bordeaux, and, voila. Perfection.
Of course, JMHO.
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2012-04-13 23:36:43 @vin you left out the fries from McDs. You'd be proud as tonight I opened a 1986 Château Prieuré-Lichine that
was purchased from an auction lot off Zachy's. This wine is drinking fantastically, displays a beautiful core of fruit
(cherry, sweet dark fruits), surrounded by wet earth, mushroom, cedar, leather, and ripe tannins. The balance is
impeccable and the finish is long with lingering fruit and earthy notes.
With all this talk of food i thought i might ask if anyone had a great recipe for poutine?
24949 vinmoet
2012-04-13 23:50:02 Alas, such a light dish this Poutine of yours. No recipe here.
Left you some notes on Cindy regarding the '86.
Meanwhile, am trapped. The manchild has gone to bed. Being the solid dad and husband that I am, am watching
"Emma" with the wife and two daughters. Have plowed through a 2004 Ponet Canet (great Chateau, nasty
vintage) and secretly cracked some '07 CDR to get me through the movie. Want to fall asleep during Mr. Darcy
(oops, wrong movie) but daughters know me and won't let me doze off. How to get out of this (posting here as
an escape and under the premise of using the facilities)?. A guy can only handle just so many chick flix...
24950 A Frayed Knot
2012-04-14 01:13:07 Here's the rub.............looks like I need to mix up some more..........get those samples mailed out soon!
Agree with vinny.......hard to beat hickory.......I use pecan myself.....thats just a form of hickory with a better set
of nuts....TWSS
Really Dave........a digital smoker..........what has the world come to? Sounds like we need to do a rub swap......oh
that sounds bad!
@Mac ~ Thanks for da blues..........you got my crazy cur One-eyed Jack's ears perked up with that one!
@Pats ~ If you're doing the Garden Party, I'll throw in some extra rub for the lost inmates!
Nite all!!!
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2012-04-14 01:14:41 I'm hoping our inmate TonyO uses more common sense and wears more clothing around bears than his
governor. Or eats them if that's leagal in Vermont. (I can't say I've had one myself but my mom did in her youth
in rural Wisconsin and says they are tasty)
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/national_world/2012/04/13/vermont-governor-bears.html
Someday I hope to enjoy a personal birth year ('86) wine myself; I'm glad jpakma did! As far as poutine, I'd
suggest you head to the wltv forum and ask its resident Canadians.
P-P, was there really a garden party last year? If so I missed any postings about it either before or after the fact. If
there will be one this year I hope to hear more so I can hopefully be in attendance.
24954 NaH
2012-04-14 07:06:50 RE: Birth Year Wines
1986 is still rocking. Many wines that I've tasted have many years left.
1969 (my year) wasn't great for wines and most now are DEAD IN BOTTLE. (DIB)
@Dave T: our current governor is a media whore.....the guy will do anything to get on television, even running
bare from a bear............I have never eaten bear, I think they are an animal best left to torment
politicians...............
curious if any of teh Philly area inmates remember this band (very cheesy 80's video featuring bad hair but the
band was solid IMO)................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flKl6m4oiyo
@AFK: e-mail sent. I am partial to Mesquite for smokin on the Grill.
VEERRRY INTERESTING! Anyone tried any of this?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/14/marijuana-laced-wine-grows-more-fashionable-in-californiawine-country.html
The world is a bit brighter today (despite the tornado watch). Looking out the window at my unmowed lawn
reminded me of this classic:
24955 tonyo
2012-04-14 08:14:59
24956 tonyo
2012-04-14 09:02:27
24957 louas
24958 louas
2012-04-14 09:56:50
2012-04-14 12:08:19
24961 McMalbec
2012-04-14 13:02:45
24962 BrunelloBob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKcGCObEb28
2012-04-14 19:47:40 "The Red Sox are BACK and there's gonna be trouble, Hey La, Hey La The SOX ARE BACK!"
24964 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewjxzSGmOGw
2012-04-14 20:20:57 Cooked a bone-in pork loin on the grill tonight. Did a simple marinade of S&P, our home grown, dried garlic,
and EVOO. Vacuum sealed and froze for 2 months. It absolutely rocked!
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2012-04-15 10:16:32 The need for more cowbell brins us all together her in the 802.......................
24967 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3uGVspV4K4
2012-04-15 10:17:53 Interesting info on today's QPR: (for future reference: the 2010 Domaine de Fontsainte Corbières Gris de Gris)
http://www.sergetheconcierge.com/2008/11/not-color-blind-gris-de-gris-wine-in-another-shade-of-pink-sud-defrance-2.html
24968 NY Pete
24969 BuffaloLou
24971 TonyO
2012-04-15 13:09:17 fwiw, that low ball price on the gris de gris QPR is on a case purchase ... cheers
2012-04-15 14:47:08 Have the Petite Sirah braised short ribs in the oven now. At the half way point, they smell fantastic; braising
liquid is very tasty!
2012-04-15 17:17:48 @BL: had braised short ribs last night at a great local restaurant. The appetizer of seared rabbit loin over grilled
polenta was made even better with a bottle of Copain PN............just popped a 2008 Dutch Bill Creek PN, Russina
River (Last Bottle deal @$15)....this is a style that is very red fruit and that telltale barnyard aroma....I like it !
Might be a bit light for the smoked skirt steak tacos I am working on.............had a nice 100 mph + run up the
interstate earlier today when a couple Canucks in an Acura NSX wanted to see if the SS Camaro could run with
them........the answer is yes.........got the heart racing right along with the RPMs.........not making a habit of that !
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2012-04-15 19:08:53 <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1020280" rel="nofollow">2008 Rosenblum Cellars
Petite Sirah Rockpile Road Vineyard</a> - USA, California, Sonoma County, Rockpile (4/15/2012)
Enjoyed this with beef short ribs braised in Petite Sirah (McManis 2010). This Rosenblum PS was big enough and
fruity enough to stand up to the big meal.
C: opaque plum
N: dark chocolate, milk chocolate, blackberries, it's very 'sweet and black'
P: just like the nose, dark chocolate, berries, with vanilla ("blackberries and cream")
F: long, slightly tannic, dusty and mouth drying tannins give this the finish I love.
This wine is so delicious and drinking so well now, there is no reason to sit on it. Enjoy! (91 points)
24974 BuffaloLou
2012-04-15 19:26:59 Odd, I did a refresh before I posted and TO's post didn't show up. After I posted, it was there. Hmmm...
@TO - Wow, the seared rabbit loin over grille polenta sounds fantastic!
@TO, pt 2 - Was the Acura parked in the left lane? Around here, most of the 'Ontario plates' (and there are a lot
of them!) are nearly always parked in it. They are, after all, good, fast, drivers. {sic.}
24981 BuffaloLou
24982 mr21cbs
24986 BaroloDude
2012-04-16 15:10:23 Did I done broke this thing again? ;)
2012-04-16 16:07:11 Nope, not yet. But it would be a good test of stability. Fire away :twisted:
2012-04-16 18:37:16 if any of you bought the Elyse Tietjen Cab on CW today before it pumpkined, you will be happy. Love that stuff.
Glad i tuned in too late for it though... i already have enough.
Hope all is well with all a y'all THers.
Last night's Del DOtto 2005 Lot S Cab Sauv (BDB Bordeaux oak barrel) was grrrreat with a big rib eye. Hint... the
"S" stands for grapes or juice from another famous Napa producer that begins with that letter... ;-) They have
made a Lot B and a Lot R too...
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2012-04-16 19:02:17
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=968205" rel="nofollow">2009 Snoqualmie
Vineyards Riesling Naked</a> - USA, Washington, Columbia Valley (4/16/2012)
Ripping acidity balanced with RS showing notes of pear and apricot. Nice wine; enjoyable, but nothing to
write home about. Would drink again, but would not buy as there other choices that are better for similar price
(Loosen Bros "Dr. L" comes to mind).
Went well with panko crusted fried chicken as acidity cut through the fat. (86 points)
24988 BuffaloLou
2012-04-16 19:08:13 @BDude - Would love to have purchased the Elyse Cab, but wasn't interested in the other two, so I passed.
Also, where (and when) did you buy the Del DOtto 2005 Lot S Cab Sauv?
@cbs - be careful my friend, do you recall with whom you speak? I've been restraining myself! ;)
24989 jpakma
2012-04-16 20:22:17 Drank my first bottle of 2009 CdP and if this bottle is an indication of others in the vintage then I am going to
have to seek more of 2009s. Most of the 2007s that I tasted were over-extracted and somewhat a hot mess, this
wine was anything but that and is available from Wine Exchange at just under $40.
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1099128" rel="nofollow">2009 Domaine Jean
Royer Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Prestige</a> - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
(4/16/2012)
Beautiful translucent red in the glass with pink rose' hues at the meniscus. The nose is an elegant mix of crushed
raspberry and strawberry, some light florals, spice and garrigue. The nose is intoxicating and seductive. The wine
is silky smooth and there is a lot of structure here. Raspberry and strawberry laced with spice lead the way to
some earthy notes on the finish. The finish is long and very pleasing. Overall, my only issue with the wine was
some slight heat on the finish but this was an outstanding wine and a definite re-buy for me. (93 points)
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2012-04-16 21:55:53 Space news: "The Lyrid meteor shower is expected to reach maximum intensity overnight from Saturday to
Sunday (April 21 to 22), with the best observing opportunities coming between midnight and dawn on the 22nd
local time, experts say. The moon will be nearly new at that time, so its glare shouldn't drown out too many of
the Lyrids' brief flashes."
Good news: I'm camping this weekend where dark skies are never an issue.
Better news: It's a new moon!
Bad news: We're expecting rain. Ugh!
Hope you get the opportunity to get to some dark skies, sit back with a glass of vino, and enjoy nature's show!
24992 BuffaloLou
2012-04-16 22:25:59
Petite Sirah Heritage Clones</a> - USA, California, San Francisco Bay, Contra Costa County (4/16/2012)
C: Opaque plum
N: Huge jammy blackberry
P: Huge wine! Blackberry, blueberry, black currants.
F: Long and dusty (TWSS)
This wine grows and grows. Big nose, bigger on the palate, even bigger still on the mid-palate. Strong finish that
lasts and lasts with dusty tannins. (90 points)
2012-04-16 22:29:53 Hey BDude, what's up with the Freak??? And your defense...
24995 David T
2012-04-17 08:06:45 @vinmoet Curious for your take on Latour's announcement that they won't be selling en primeur any longer?
24996 john o'
2012-04-17 08:14:59 I know the question was not directed at me, but I think Latour's plan is brilliant, as long as they can take the cash
flow hit (which based on their library is probably not a big issue).
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2012-04-17 09:08:09 Its theoretically better for consumers since the wine is sold when ready and there won't be the guessing of its
prospects in the barrel (which is why Parker scores a range and then comes back and assigns a final number).
I think they save on the negociant fees but lose out on the buzz of the speculation. The short term restriction on
cash flow would be a problem for many other Chateaux. This may be the future for many but its way too early to
tell.
24999 Brooks
2012-04-17 10:12:10 Hold fast to that which is good...I will not go into details...please ..teach your children well ...about
driving...motorcycles..other potentially dangerous activities etc. This weekend I witnessed from a short distance
a most horrific accident that could have been avoided. A neighbor has lost a son. In a NY minute, everything can
change. UBC will get a full day of driving safety refresher when he returns from college in three weeks.
^
I trust all is well and hope for more to attend Philly event. I am also working on dates for trip to VT to see TonyO
and the One Who Is Missed..also to meet SPOT!'s parents. I have been in full court press on all family and biz
fronts...this thing called life is two full time jobs. Be well.
25001 ptaylor2112
2012-04-17 11:36:14 @Brooks - I am sorry to hear that. My 3 kids will get extra hugs tonight.
When is the Philly offline? I may be there in early June.
In other news, my "last bottle" Last Bottle foray is 1 for 2. The 1999 Pillar Rock Cab was awful. It had a brightness
of fruit that was just way out of place. It was as if someone had made the wine, bottled it, then laced it with a
touch of sugar. But the 2009 Evening Land Bourgogne was pleasant.
25002 NaH
ptaylor2112
2012-04-17 12:40:53 @ptaylor
The Philly Offline is May 19th (early, early June) at Sonata Restaurant.
Contact me at [email protected] for info.
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2012-04-17 16:16:43 Anyone bite on this gem from WTSO?
100 pt Left-Bank Bordeaux
La Mission Haut-Brion
Pessac-Leognan 2009
$849.99
25004 vinmoet
25008 johnr
25009 TonyO
25011 TonyO
25012 BrunelloBob
25013 luddite
25015 BuffaloLou
25018 Daniel Mattisson
25019 BuffaloLou
25021 BuffaloLou
It sold out. Vinny?
2012-04-17 16:36:17 Did not see it. A bit out of my price range but will be considered a steal down the road.
2012-04-17 17:59:00 @BB...I hope that no one was dumb enough to bite on that. 09 and 10 Bordeaux are the biggest waste of money
in the wine game. Even more than Cali Kult Kabs. There is a bubble in Bordeaux. Go buy 89 or 90, heck even 00
at half price. Already aged and ready to drink. If you want to be ahead of the investment game, buy Barolo and
Burgundy.
2012-04-17 19:58:27 Popped a 2009 Esser Cab.............simply put, this is the best Bab under $10 I have ever had.......delicious
2012-04-17 21:09:51 Bab? Wow, TonyO has derailed........
2012-04-17 21:25:05 I think "Bab" has higher alcohol than your run-of-the-mill "Cab".
Kinda like Canadian beer vs. American lager.
2012-04-17 21:31:01 @Brooks/WiM: Check your email for HSC deal!
2012-04-17 22:02:00 Popped a 2007 Simonassi Malbec "1922" (Andes Mountains, Argentina) - This is terrible! It's all acid and nothing
but acid! Giving it a '70' is generous.
2012-04-18 10:50:01 HSC deal? Would love to hear about it!
2012-04-18 11:48:24 +1 on the HSC deal...
2012-04-18 14:00:17 Phone just rang. "This is Jonathan calling from Rosenblum Cellars. We'd like to offer you a new deal we have
running; FREE SHIPPING AND 30% OFF."
And I was doing so well this month...
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2012-04-18 14:38:35 Heard today on Rachael Ray:
"My husband prefers the dark meat." (Hmmm... I bet he does!)
"Oooo, he's kind of soft." (After picking up a vegi.)
"You can also do a combination: A couple breasts and a couple thighs." (Nothing like a sampler... )
"I keep my nuts in the freezer." (Yikes! I feel sorry for her husband!)
25024 BuffaloLou
25028 BrunelloBob
25029 BuffaloLou
How about one big "TWSS"!
2012-04-18 16:07:45 RIP Dick Clark. New Years Eve will never be the same.
2012-04-18 20:04:46 FWIW, I called the local distributor of the QPR wine and was able to get the 2011 version sent to my LWS for
under $12/btl case price. I can share if any of the usual suspects want to try a couple.
2012-04-18 20:24:44 Ho1y Cr4p Batman! Don't know what there's been more of in this game- goals or penalties! GO FLYERS!
2012-04-18 21:13:40 Re: The bubbles on Cindy. Those two guys on CT have got some credibility. Plus, it's my anniversary year. In for
one.
x
And BTW: Is this Daniel Dude a new kid on the block? If so, Welcome Sir!
2012-04-18 22:32:29 A WTSO deal popped tonight:
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=634592" rel="nofollow">2006 Bradford Mountain
Zinfandel Grist Vineyard</a> - USA, California, Sonoma County, Dry Creek Valley (4/18/2012)
C: Ruby
N: licorice, cocoa, vanilla, intense blackberry
P: Like the nose, blackberry, licorice and cocoa, plus spice. Nice amount of acid makes it food friendly.
F: medium
Nice wine. Good value for <$14. (89 points)
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2012-04-18 23:02:43 BLou should have been in Cleveland tonight. A nice petite sirah tasting at Loren Sonkin's house, with two whites
to open. All were blind.
2003 Cloudy Bay Sauvignon Blanc
2002 Huet Sec Le Mont
1992 La Jota Petite Sirah Thompson Vyd
1994 Stags' Leap Winery Petite Sirah
1997 Ridge Petite Sirah York Creek
1998 Mirrasou Petite Sirah
1999 EOS Petite Sirah
2000 Turley Petite Sirah Hayne Vineyard
2002 Pride Mountain Vineyards Petite Sirah
2005 Chateau Montelena Petite Sirah
2006 Jaffurs Petite Sirah Thompson Vineyard
2009 Tres Sabores Petite Sirah
My WOTN was the Stags Leap, the group's was the Pride. I'll post notes as soon as I get them typed up.
25034 BuffaloLou
2012-04-19 10:04:26 @DT - Nice Wednesday evening! The Stags Leap PS has always been good. Usually shows more restraint than
many others. Is Loren a big PS fan or was it just a theme and everyone brought PS? Looking forward to your TNs.
Petite Sirah: Zinfandel's best friend.
25035 AdamEmpire
25036 Ctwino
25037 BrunelloBob
2012-04-19 10:22:19 Hello, I hope everyone is well. New Ship4Free up today, thought I would give you guys a heads up. Expecting this
one to go pretty quick. Thanks!
2012-04-19 11:48:48 Hey Adam....just put in my order. Thanks for the heads-up.
2012-04-19 12:22:18 In, Thanks Adam,
CTwino Back in the House!
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2012-04-19 12:26:18 catching up a bit...
WiM... the Freak will likely stabilize eventually, he has had some shaky streaks each of the last two years. But
this one is more troublesome for sure. The defense will come around if Pagan starts improving. Maybe this is
why the Mutts let him go.
BLOU... i bought my DelD from the winery. Can't afford them anymore as their prices moved up too much. BUt
back then the Lot S, Lot R and Lot B were steals, especially when you know what juice (cults) are inside.
I caved on the Colonello twopack on WTSO a day ago. I am ashamed... I was doing so well and working the
inventory down.
Sadly i must report that a DelD 07 887 Vineyard Colbert Oak (my favorite vineyard/barrel combo of theirs) bottle
was broken in the cellar and leaked out. I salvaged one brilliant glass out of it. Sob. Now both sides of the cellar
have had massive leakage and are stained etc..
anyone ever try to clean up leaked wine from wooden shelves in a cellar? what did you do? DO you just wear
the red stain as a badge of honor (it tends to get sticky on the labels of other bottles though...) or did you find a
safe way of cleaning it off the wood (short of sandpaper!) and even off labels of stained bottles?
Ciao for now... Go Giants. Go Sharks.
25039 BaroloDude
25040 BrunelloBob
25041 BaroloDude
2012-04-19 12:35:48 BBob... Casanova di Neri alert... Vins Rare. Big sale on the std 06 BdM. Trying.... to.... resist.....
2012-04-19 12:45:43 Dude: Got a link? I can't find it.
Asking mostly out of curiosity. Cellar is seriously out of balance with Brunello :lol: Imagine That!
2012-04-19 12:51:15 it must have JUST sold out! (it was 29.99, 10 bucks lower than the next cheapest seller on WineSearcher)
The Fanti deal they had last week disappeared fast too.
Sign up for their emails.
I just clicked on the email offer and it is no longer found on their site. I don't know whether to be bummed or
relieved.
25042 john o'
25043 john o'
2012-04-19 13:07:24 Great looking QPR on Last Bottle. Auvigue 2007 Pouilly Fuisse for $12 (free ship on a case).
WS 88, with a $27 release price. Nice CT notes.
2012-04-19 13:09:02 Re: 2007 Casanova di Neri - saw Winex had an email promoting it as well.
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2012-04-19 14:22:18 BDude: If there is no finish on your wood racking, try using oxalic acid as a wood bleach. I've used it for over 40
years to remove water, iron, body fluids (blood, etc) from wood. . You should be able to find it at a good paint
store or on line. Real Milk Paint Company in PA, among others sells it on line. Use it as follows for good results:
The way I use oxalic acid is to mix about a couple of tablespoons into about a quart of hot tap water and let it
dissolve. Then use a small brush and paint it on the dark areas only. Allow it to dry. The stain will lighten as it
dries. If it does not disappear, then do another coat. Be patient and let it dry as you may need to coat it three or
four times, depending upon the severity of the stains (allowing time to dry between coats). When the stain is
gone you might experience a slight halo/ring effect around the area where the stain was bleached. To eliminate
this, saturate a rag/sponge with the oxalic acid solution and wipe a thin coat over the stain and surrounding area.
Allow to dry. This should take care of these stains, which are likely a buildup of the dried acid crystals/powder.
The final step is neutralization. You need to neutralize the acid so it will not react with a finish (should you be
planning one). Mix up two tablespoons of borax (in the detergent area in a supermarket) in a quart of hot water.
2012-04-19 14:36:03 I'm a big fan of Last Bottles deals. I've picked up on one of their tricks, though. I mentioned below the Pouille
Fuisse deal. I found it by clicking on their site about 1.5 hours ago. Five minutes ago, the e-mail announcing the
deal comes out and 2 minutes ago, when I click to it, it's already sold out.
To get their best deals, you need to check their web site and not wait for the announcements.
2012-04-19 14:37:39 Dude: you could just paint everything red. Sounds easier... :lol:
Heck of a price on the 'Neri. Shipping would have been the only thing stopping me from buying...
Just got a case delivered from the JJBuck power/clearance sale of last week. It's like Christmas when I open a box
like that.
Bought one bottle that I thought was a 750, turned out to be a 375. A second that I thought was a 750, was a
1500. So, despite being an Idiot, I guess I'm ahead of the game...
2012-04-19 14:58:28 JohnO - got LBW email @ 12:43. Sometimes your email acc't holds back on emails. Google is notorious for that.
They used to post offers on twitter but for some reason stopped. They may send out emails based on
geographical location but I doubt that level of sofistication.
2012-04-19 14:58:56 @WM what I want to know is how many bodily fluids are leaking onto your wine racks... what goes on down
there???
@BBob and @BDude and @CTWino all in the house! It's a Happy Thursday!
Had to unsubscribe from many of the offers- too much temptation, no space and no funds for now...sigh
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2012-04-19 15:05:40 BB-- and all inmates. I have always been in the "house" but between work, family and various other things pulling
me in various directions I have not had a lot of time to post. To make up for my lack of attention, i have no wine
info to share with you bit i have a great recipe. Please run, do not walk, to try this. I would imagine it would pair
well with lots of whites. I have made it numerous times but have never paired it with a wine (which should tell
you where my life had\s been as of late). This soup is SO amazingly easy and delicious that you (if you are me)
will have one of those moments where you smack yourself on the forehead and wonder how you have managed
to live all these years without knowing about it and making it and eating it at every possible opportunity. The
soup is as healthy as you can get – the ingredients are pretty much chicken broth, a few eggs, lemon juice,
chicken, shredded carrots, a handful of orzo pasta and some herbs – but because of how it is put together, it
comes out in this rich, creamy format that feels positively sinful. If you didn’t know better, you would swear that
there was a boatload of heavy cream lurking in this one…but there isn’t! Not a drop! That in and of itself makes
this worth a try.
CHICKEN SOUP WITH AVGOLEMONO AND ORZO
25051 BrunelloBob
25052 Ctwino
1 roasted chicken (meat shredded)
2 carrot, finely chopped
8 cloves garlic, smashed and chopped
3 stalks celery, finely chopped
1 Spanish or sweet onion, finely chopped
2 fresh bay leaves or 3 dried leaves
6 large sprigs thyme
olive oil
2 32 oz chicken broth
white wine to taste (I use lots)
extra better than bullion to taste
/
2012-04-19 15:24:25 Forwarding
chicken soup recipe to Beautiful Wife, who is in charge of cooking, for future reference. Thanks.
BrunelloBob is more qualified as family Sommelier than as chef...
How much white wine is "lots"?
Chardonnay, I assume? Maybe S.B. with the lemon juice? Pinot Grigio probably safe...
2012-04-19 15:37:56 Love that you call your wife beautiful. So sweet. Lots means....well Lots. I dunno, I cook by feel. 1/2 bottle or so.
But then again I am a wino so take it all in stride.
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2012-04-19 15:39:58 CT: Beautiful Wife is also a wino (one of her many enduring qualities :) ). A half bottle is probably a "floor' in our
house, rather than a "ceiling",.. Thanks again.
2012-04-19 16:01:19 Me thinks the BB's need to get together with the Ctwino's. :)
2012-04-19 16:51:44 WIM: The experience with bodily fluids/blood are from doing bio-hazard/trauma scene cleanups as well as
cleaning up after tenants w/pets. I learned about oxalic acid when I took shop in the 7th and 8th grade and it
was used then to remove water stains from wood, usually before it was used in some project. In my business, I
have used it many times to remove water stains from wood walls/floors which have been discolored by plumbing
or other non-contaminated water issues.
john o': My email came through at 12:42, but I saw the page first, at about 1:15, and my order was confirmed at
1:22PM. In the past I have gotten emails after the offer has expired, so I think it has more to be with the service
through which we receive emails than something that lastbottlewines.com might be doing on their end. I'm sure
that they just send blanket emails to everyone at once. I keep their site and others open as tabs on my computer
and periodically click/refresh them to see if something has been added. That practice has allowed me to get
some of their best offers before they sold out in just minutes.
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2012-04-19 17:24:35
2012-04-19 19:53:50
2012-04-19 21:30:29
2012-04-19 22:08:44
@CTwino: I thought we put Brooks in charge of that!
Oh Brooksie.....you are now officially in charge.
finally a cindy wine that inspires me to buy.....
The kommander would like to report that even he sometimes makes mistakes. Botswains mate lou mentioned a
wtso deal on the 06 Bradford Mointain Zin. The kommander spent much time attempting to ascertain exactly
where he may purchase the BM zin as his stock of that totally righteous qpr was dwindling. The kommander
needs to drink less java. Good job on the spot on notes Lt. Lou kaos out
2012-04-19 22:21:09 And the Cindy wine was sold out by the time I could check in to the site :(
Finishing up packing to fly to SFO tomorrow!
Once again, if there's anything anyone would like me to bring from Cali to the Philly off-line, let me know soon!
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2012-04-19 23:44:22 @David T - Vaya con Dios.
2012-04-20 05:15:49 @DavidT What is your itinerary? Which wineries are you visiting?
2012-04-20 09:38:09 Must have been sent into moderation 'cause I used the "V" word... Just got pounded with spam from "Canadian
Pharmacy" try to sell, surprise, surprise, "v1agr4" (that should work... )
2012-04-20 11:07:37 BuffaloLou, there is nothing in moderation. Use it if you have to...
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2012-04-20 11:59:42 FYI, my QPR suggestion was actually for the 2011 Domaine de Fontsainte Corbières Gris de Gris. It's available for
$11.99 @ Wine Exchange (winex.com) and MacArthur Beverages in DC. I talked to the distributor earlier in the
week, and he told me there's not much left in the US!
2012-04-20 12:52:26 @NaH
Napa: Hendry (supposed to be very educational which I figure Laura would appreciate more than the wines),
Schramsberg, Vincent Arroyo are all reserved, Frank if I have time which I doubt I will.
Sonoma: Plan to stop by Copain and J Rochioli, will call Joseph Swan since they're right around the corner to see
if they can fit me in, if not I'll head up to Ridge.
2012-04-20 14:50:20 @Barolodude - might you be available tonight at 9pm to comment on this Cindy offer?
Huge Barolo Riserva offering coming tonight at 9 PM on Cinderellawine.comSeveral weeks ago, one of our Italian
wine vendors brought in a very special buying opportunity to the Wine Library team. It's a high end, Barolo
Riserva from an incredible vintage (we will give you a hint...it's more than 10 years old) at a price that is over 50%
off the regular price! Plus, shipping will be free on all orders of 3 bottles or more! We tasted this here in our WL
offices and were blown away! At 9 PM we will put this special offer up live on Cinderellawine.com so be ready.
This will be an offer you won't want to miss!
25077 BrunelloBob
25078 BuffaloLou
25079 BuffaloLou
2012-04-20 15:47:55 This is bad, I need Barolo about as much as I need Brunello...
At least this one has some age on it...
2012-04-20 15:53:58 @cbs - dunno where it went... No matter.
2012-04-20 15:59:13 Went to a wake today. It was "out in the country." On the way we saw a local resident walking... walking his...
GOAT! Yes, a goat on a leash. It looked rather humorous.
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2012-04-20 16:04:47 OBAMA QUIETLY SEEKING TO CEDE U.S. OCEANS TO U.N. LAW
"President Obama’s ambitious plan for stepped up government regulation of the oceans includes an
unreported effort to cede U.S. oceans to United Nations-based international law, WND has learned.
The plan was previously a pet project of Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, whose ocean-zoning scheme was
partnered with a globalist group that also aimed to hand over U.S. oceans to U.N. governance.
Obama’s plan is still in draft form. It calls for an executive order to be issued for a National Ocean Policy that will
determine how the ecosystem is managed while giving the federal government more regulatory authority over
any businesses that utilize the ocean."
The full article: http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/obama-quietly-seeking-to-cede-u-s-oceans-to-u-nlaw/?cat_orig=world
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25084 BaroloDude
2012-04-20 19:16:52 WTF Blou.... you believe everything you read on the internet? You a "birther" too? So many ridiculous things
circulating these days.
Wow. How about a mulligan on that post...
2012-04-20 19:35:34 sadly i will not be all that available at 6 to view that barolo offer... although later my iphone will have to take a
peek. ;-)
Wine House just launched a big cheap deal on Oddero Barolo 07... but i am gonna pass, and that doesn't fit the
description WL is sending out.
25086 Hinrgman
for barolo that is 10+ yrs old... anything 1996 - 2001 vintage wise was very good (imo) in piedmont. I have had
some 98s and 99s recently in particular and been very happy with them. 1991-1995 not so much. As a general
rule, there are exceptions of course... but if i don't know the maker or the opinion of someone i trust... i would
look at the vintage and then think about it...
2012-04-20 19:46:34 I Don't do politics here. :|
That is all.
2012-04-20 19:50:37 @BDude - Isabella and Cristina Oderro are touring the US. Are they making an appearance near you?
25087 TonyO
25088 BrunelloBob
2012-04-20 20:14:55 @BB; Happy 100th Anniversary.......or not
2012-04-20 21:01:20 @IrishTony: This season may Kill me....
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2012-04-20 21:01:38 A demigod like hype and utter
flop..............pazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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2012-04-20 21:03:43 RE: Cindy's Fantastic Barolo offer: Nevermind...
2012-04-20 21:05:00 JR:You scare me sometimes. Get Out of My head!
2012-04-20 21:07:05 Really....A reserve Barolo with NO score. No Galloni, No Tanzer, heck even James "I live in Tuscany"
Suckling.......really.....the only other retailer is Morrells at $84, but WL is saying $104??? Get the demigod back,
he is much better with the overhype, under deliver. They need to.....um....... sorry TonyO, apologize!
2012-04-20 21:13:17 @BLou: I'm disappointed in you. These are the very kind of posts that made @Mobius and others chase you off
the WL forums. Please don't do that here :(
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-stewardship-ocean-our-coasts-and-great-lakes
25095 ptaylor2112
25096 BrunelloBob
25097 TonyO
25098 johnr
25099 BrunelloBob
2012-04-20 21:32:09 Yeah, that Barolo offer was a letdown. C'est la vino.
2012-04-20 21:38:00 PTaylor: "Gets it"
Sometimes Cindy Rocks, Sometimes...not so much....
Problem is, you can't "follow the hype". The WLTV board is jumping "all in" right now....
I've had this producer, a couple times. At $30, I take a shot. At $50, with no scores. ummmm.... NO.
2012-04-20 21:50:48 @BB: it looks like a tough one.....could be worse, the Vikings may be going to L.A.....I think Valentine is gone by
All Star break
2012-04-20 21:55:38 Honestly, Barolo is the center of the Piedmont, their are many critics, that have made their bones, AG come to
mind, tasting and rating Barolos and Barbs and not one of those tasted this? Especially with 2000 vintage which
is special. Phredd, daKnurd and I have some 2000's that are baller 100pts, but those all made 94pts AG. WL is
pushing this hard and historically, thats a tell in it of itself. If they went 39.99 I would take a flyer, not at $50.
Uber hype and most of the posters are posting tonight are idiots who follow the crowd,
2012-04-20 22:07:36 @T.O.: I cling to the fact that, 2 years ago, I went public Hard with my arguement that "the UCONN Huskies are
gonna Suck next year".
Then they win the National Championship (pretty sue they did it JUST to shut ME up...Not sure....)
Given that, You need to worry!!!! :lol:
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2012-04-20 22:32:19 If you are thinking about tonights Cindy Offer...Go buy this instead:
2000 Podere Rocche dei Manzoni Barolo Vigna Cappella di Santo Stefano $43 WSPRO...
25103 A Frayed Knot
among the CT notes 99pts WineKnurd, 95NCwino(former Cindy). NC Cindys are going to kill me for posting this
away.
2012-04-20 23:28:29 I just watched The Colt a fictional Hallmark movie about the civil war. A very good movie that for some reason
reminded me of a time when I was a small boy helping our little church out in the country clean up their
cemetery. A couple of us boys were exploring the woods that bordered the back of the cemetery while the
adults worked on cleaning up the brush and vines that were encroaching on the graves. We were surprised to
discover that the forest was not the border of the cemetery but the graves went back into the forest. The
further we went, the older they got. We were doing a little math and figuring out how old the people were when
they passed away..........then we found the graves of the soldiers from the civil war...........worn stones, some
knocked over by trees growing too near to the stones, some couldn't even be read anymore. Most died young,
very young. Forgotten graves overtaken by the forest......what a shame.
We shouldn't forget.......a war where both sides lost so much. History that is forgotten is often repeated Now
that would be a shame!
Peace
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25110 BrunelloBob
2012-04-21 00:35:03
2012-04-21 01:51:03
2012-04-21 07:20:06
2012-04-21 12:10:01
@johnr -- Is the 2000 Podere still available for $43? I'd be interested.
Greetings from San Francisco...
DT - Enjoy your trip.
Putting aside the hype and hysteria, here's my take on the 2000 Damilano Barolo Riserva. Decent producer. "Cru"
offerings are best (typically reviewed in the very good to excellent, rarely outstanding, range). Riserva has not
been made in over a decade (a good move). As far as vintages go, WS probably went overboard in their 100 point
score for 2000. I think the 2001 was better, as well as 1996, 1998 and 1999, especially for ageability. That being
said, the offer is a reasonable one, but far from a screaming value. Lots of recent deals for <$50 Barolo topped
it.
2012-04-21 12:22:34 Julius: Well said.
As usual, the problem is the "hype", not the offer.
Was really looking forward to a shot at a Great Barolo with some age on it...
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2012-04-21 12:33:24 "Problem is, you can’t 'follow the hype'. The WLTV board is jumping 'all in' right now…."
LOL
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25115 Brooks
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John R, thanks for the alternative REC.
2012-04-21 12:39:45 @Dave T: as Rip Taylor used to say "Hello Frisco !!!"
2012-04-21 14:42:46 TO or Youk...
Role over....and play Dead....no month feels more like college to me than April...the flowers...the tunes...canoe
trips....the suds ....just walkin it home UBC style. Getting ready to attend a BBQ with neighbors that are a bit up
tight...mmmm...let me see...wine sack...hacky sack...frisbee...flip flops...beads...I am all set. What is that
sweetheart...business casual? On Saturday? Sure I will shave...A hair cut too? It's April...my month. What in the
world ever became of sweet Jane. No I have not been dancing with the colorful bears again. But do the colors
of the Grateful Dead dancing bears have a meaning? No I not going to bring up a sabatical of touring with the
Dead again at the BBQ..What if the hokey pokey was what it is all about? Yes I will be ready by 5? Let me see.
bring San Roman or Gran Elias Mora? Just too much stress in my life.......... decisions. PhillyOffline....please get
theme or I may not attend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2012-04-21 15:29:35 @Brooks: a BBQ with a dress code, are you $^&^*&(& kidding me ? I would bring BOTH the San
Roman AND the Gran Elias Mora and drink them straight out of the bottle wrapped in a brown paper bag (you
know, the kind Saints fans will be wearing AGAIN this year.....)....dress code for a TonyO BBQ:
Shoes; optional except for wing tips which are banned
Shirts: Hawaiin are preferred, any type of sweater is banned (especially tied around the neck)
Pants: shorts preferred, Speedos, aka banana hammocks, are banned for all including any Canadians that may
crash the BBQ
Eat, Drink and Repeat as needed...................and if you want to get people moving, I have found the following
music will get most heading to the exits:
Frank Zappa: "Broken Hearts are for A$$holes"
Motorhead: "Love Me Like a Reptile"
Velvet Underground "Venus in Furs" (ok, had to add that one for old times sake)
Say hi to Thurston and Lovey !
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2012-04-21 15:55:53 @Brooks
Give the San Roman to the wife and the Gran Elias Mora to the husband. Step well clear and watch the fireworks.
25119 joe g
2012-04-21 17:18:02 bbob... if you were looking for a 'shot at a great barolo with some age on it", what makes you think this isnt
exactly what you were looking for?
2012-04-21 17:51:43 Simply the fact that you're not buying it joe, of course...
2012-04-21 17:58:16 @Brooks RE: Philly Offline theme
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TOGA
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McMalbec
2012-04-21 18:00:33
2012-04-21 18:25:00
2012-04-21 18:42:56
2012-04-21 19:19:16
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2012-04-21 19:22:21
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2012-04-21 19:26:42
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25129 TonyO
25130 BrunelloBob
2012-04-21 19:30:44
2012-04-21 19:32:45
2012-04-21 19:36:19
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2012-04-21 19:59:42
25132 BrunelloBob
25133 TonyO
2012-04-21 20:06:51
2012-04-21 20:22:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18eaNSxhK5c
respek
:roll:
Calling nurse Ratched, please place @B² on suicide watch and turn off Fox sports!
WTSO brings it's Barolo deal: Azienda Agricola Cavalier Bartolomeo Barolo Solanotto Altenasso DOCG 2007
$24.99@-free shipping on three.
What do our Italian experts think?
Shoot me Ludds....Please....
If there's anything at all to our friendship, come up behinfd me and put a Large caliber bullet right through the
base of my skull...
gonna be a Long friggin' season...
In other news: I got $10 that says Brooks shows up at the Philly offline in a bedsheet toga. Shoeless.
Any takers?
@B²: I say we just drink ourselves to death. Slower than a bullet but way more fun...
Note to Red Sox: never, I repeat NEVER invite the Yankees to an anniversary party.....................
Working on it Ludds, but I seem to have a bit of a tolerance....
,
T.O.: Celebrating the birthday of a building is just stupid, probably birthing another damned curse...
@BB: I am to blame for breaking the curse:.....until 2004, the Yankees beating the Red Sox was one of those
things you could just count on....it just happened....then the night when Aaron Boone took that hanging
knucklelball deep, I looked at my lovely, long suffering Boston native/ Red Sox fan wife, and said "enough, this
has to be then end of this"...and so it was.....until now.......
I knew your wife was the "better half"... ;)
@BB: I agree !!!!!
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2012-04-21 23:35:52 For greybearded Inmates on a rainy Saturday night.
Santo & Johnny
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=santo+and+johnny+music&mid=6DEFB37926CA98B1C5E36DEFB379
26CA98B1C5E3&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1
2012-04-22 00:47:32 All we have to do now
Is take these lies and make them true somehow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QulBUdp-SAQ
2012-04-22 10:44:59 one of the unique voices in music has left us.............hopefully many generations will enjoy the gift that Levon
Helm left us with......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Y987Uf1wY&feature=fvwrel
2012-04-22 15:47:57 Is there anything better than red wine on a cool, rainy Sunday afternoon?
2012-04-22 18:23:53 at least one team from Boston is winning..............GO Bs !!!!..............Seguin with a great shot !
...........
2012-04-22 18:29:19 Maybe the Sawks will get rained out ....and it will be a good day all around in Beantown...
2012-04-22 19:09:40 2007 Saviez Zin...........black fruit, vanilla, spice.......yup, this is why I am a fan of America's
varietal....%&^*&( deliciousness without the need for a chemical analysis or an IQ test !!!
................pour it, drink it, and repeat...............even better the fennel laced sausage and spicy marinara that will
be ladled over some rigatoni shortly....simple yet satisfying (TWSS)..........maybe a little Sinatra is in
order.................it just keeps getting better.......
2012-04-22 21:17:12 @TonyO: Big Ditto on the Saviez Zin!!
2012-04-23 14:47:30 Tony O and Louas re ' 07 Saviez: thanks for the report-I have some in the cellar. Any opinion as to its useful live?
2012-04-23 15:36:05 If anyone missed out the Mas Doix Salanques 2006 and wants some let me know. Ended up with a few cases still
available....also check out the Ship4Free site this week for some very limited wines that are in too small of
quantities to email blast - starting with the current listing. Thank you!
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2012-04-23 15:45:28 OK, I can't make the Philly event but I can still pretend order:
Just to get a few tastes on the table...
asparagus soup / crayfish risotto croquette / carrot / mascarpone
Of course I pick the one vegetable that you can't pair wine with but why let that stop me. 2005 Dageneau Silex.
As for Entree, well, I'm French. There we do 2 but, I showed up with the beautiful Mrs. V so we will each do two
and swap tastes:
mountain trout / serrano ham / haricot vert / artichoke / yellow pepper vinaigrette
2006 Dom. William Fevre Chablis Grand Cru Les Clos
grilled lamb loin / roasted garlic cous cous / date / curried baby carrot / fava bean
1999 Numanthia
butter-poached lobster “pot pie” / edamame / hedgehog mushroom / leek / new potato 27
2008 Etienne Sauzet Puligny Montrachet 1er Cru Les Combette
braised short rib / celery root / carrot / potato gnocchi / pearl onion 24
1990 Rauzan Segla Margaux.
We'll each take a dessert. 2001 Chateau Gruiraud Sauternes. Definitely young, but just old enough to play nicely.
pistachio and cardamom cake / strawberry mousse / apricot sorbet / white wine reduction
25154 BrunelloBob
2012-04-23 15:49:51 Interesting, bit of an "ager" for Barbera...
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2012-04-23 16:20:35 @Vinny Nice pairings.
The menu will be passed hors d'oerves, choice of 3 appetizers (probably a Pork belly, a fish and one other) choice
of 3 entrees ( Short ribs, chicken and fish) and choice of 2 desserts ( the Pistachio and the Chocolate).
The meals will be made in a different style than last years...I decided to keep the basic Beef, Chicken and Fish
theme to accomodate everyones palate.
Sorry you can't make it. I'm sure someone will post the menu, wines and pictures!
25157 louas
2012-04-23 18:02:23 @McMalbec: Sorry, no skills for guessing drinking windows. Was pretty darn good now in a decanter.
@All: Need some Trembling Hills love for the NY Rangers tonight!
25158 TonyO
2012-04-23 18:06:59 @McMalbec: drink it within the next year would be my guess, doubt it will change much but is very enjoyable
right now !
2012-04-23 21:00:34 @louas, so far so good.
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Opened the 2006 Domaine de Nizas Coteaux du Languedoc tonight and must say that it offers up great
complexity and value @ $14. Black plum, dark cherry, tar, anise, herbal notes along with gamey funk and some
barnyard on the nose. Fairly modern in style and very enjoyable drink.
2012-04-23 21:41:30 First Cindy purchase in months tonight......2002 Champagne for $29.95............Chard / Pinot Noir
blend...........should be tasty !
2012-04-23 22:23:40 @BDude, luddite, and anyone else offended - Sorry if my post offended you. I was hoping for input, not flames.
I'll refrain from political posts in the future.
Well, I'm back from a weekend of camping with the Scouts. Crappy weather; it rained all day Saturday and
Sunday morning. Friday, OTOH, was spectacular!
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Missed this afternoon's Zin deal on CW. :(
2012-04-24 08:40:31 @louas, your Rangers are still alive and are on a collision course with our Flyers. If they play each other don't
expect any love from the Philly area inmates.
2012-04-24 09:26:18 @mr21cbs: Have to wait til Thursday to see if the mighty mighty Rangers will get to face your crybaby Flyers!
Went to my first NHL game in 1959 and have been hooked since.
Also a bit of a buzz surrounding the Coyotes after they showed the Black Hawks the door last night.
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2012-04-24 11:45:46 @louas, you must be confusing Flyers with Penguins. Whatever you think of the Flyers, I would not rely on the
regular season results when it comes to the playoffs, but will be rooting for the Senators.
25168 BrunelloBob
2012-04-24 12:42:31 My TN on the QPR of the day:
2010 Pazo de Señorans Albariño Rías Baixas (Spain, Galicia, Rías Baixas) 12/26/2011 BrunelloBob 90
Mrs. BBob describes the nose best: clean cotton. I get melon too, then marshmallow, and finally generic citrus as
the bottle progresses. Great acidity and mineral on the palate. The citrus develops after an hour or so. Nice
bottle to end a Christmas weekend with.
More than I'm used to paying for albarino, but worth it. 90-91 pts
:
2012-04-24 12:42:59 Hey has anyone ever tried the 2006 Torre Quarto Tarabuso Primitivo from Puglia? It;s on Last Bottle now, FS on 6.
25170 BrunelloBob
2012-04-24 13:51:12 @PTHC: It's gone, but I don't think you missed anything. Historically, I've been underwhelmed by primitivo.
2012-04-24 13:57:59 @BBob TY! I wasn't buying, just curious for future reference. After all, I've got lots of yummy Uva de Troia to
drink at home already!
2012-04-24 15:43:19 BrunelloBob's Rules of Wine #23: Sangiovese should not be grown in California, and "zinfandel" should not be
brewed in Italy. (Let's all stick to what we do best :lol: )
2012-04-24 16:02:41 Kaos
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2012-04-24 16:12:13
2012-04-24 17:19:51
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2012-04-24 17:27:44
25178 BuffaloLou
2012-04-24 17:50:22
2012-04-24 17:56:40
Send me an email at the Philly offline addy. I have a question. Thanks.
Maybe you should ask where your pants are, Homer.
:)
@BBob Good words of wisdom, I will follow them!
Drinking 2007 Fattoria Viticcio Chianti Classico Riserva Lucius So much better than the regular Riserva that was
on WTSO earlier! And an even better buy @$20!
@WIM: You're gonna ask Where your pants are!?!?!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
( I KILL me!)
@BB - FYI: primitivo is indigenous to Italy...
@BBob Not lately, but in the past...ROFLMAO!
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2012-04-24 18:00:41 @BB: one exception to the "no Sangiovese in CA" rule would be Venom by Seghesio.............fantastic !
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2012-04-24 19:02:55 T.O.: Rules are made to be broken, otherwise What the !#@$%$!s the point!
2012-04-24 19:26:35 BrunelloBob: aren't you contradicting yourself?
2012-04-24 19:27:45 FULL Disclosure: This PM I shared a '99 La Grange Philippe Coteaux du Langudoc, which arrived today from
lastbottle. Rather than let this wine rest for a month or more, I opened one within hours of FedEx delivery,
based upon comments from friends who received theirs on the left coast days ahead of me in FL. What a treat!
Wonderful nose (fruit, spices-enough to tickle my nose) and a long, smooth finish. With a 12.5 ABV, this is very
old world to me, and the price was what I might have willingly paid when it was produced: $6/btl, delivered.
Thank you Cory!! I would quickly buy 2-4 more cases of this, since I think it is good for a few years yet!! (but
would have little chance of lasting that long in my cellar.
25185 BrunelloBob
2012-04-24 19:45:41 @CBS: BrunelloBob is full of contradictions...
For example (little known fact), he's dead. Now how could BrunelloBob post if he were dead?
2012-04-24 20:30:08 Grilled a rack of lamb (creole mustard rub, salt, pepper) plated with Brussel Sprouts sauteed with Vermont
Smoke and Cure Bacon and Garlic Mashed Potatoes......served with Neyers Syrah........PERFECT !
25186 TonyO
25187 A Frayed Knot
2012-04-24 20:48:16 The Texas wild blackberries are ripe and ready for the pickin'................mmmmmm fresh blackberry
jam............although the thorns will eventually work their way to the surface, I might wear gloves next time!!
25189 McMalbec
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2012-04-24 21:43:39 @Brunello Bob- did you look at the 2007 K&L Brunello offer?
2012-04-24 21:46:21 @ A Frayed Knot- my blacks, despite an unseasonable mild winter, haven't even blossomed yet.
Stawberries first, then raspberries.
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2012-04-25 00:41:32 @WIM What happened to your avatar? You should not have sealed lips!
@BLou Primitivo and zin both have their heritage traced to Croatia, where it is known as Crljenak Kaštelanski
:
:
We agreed we could have one no holds barred meal on our trip and it was tonight at Restaurant Gary Danko. The
service was the best I've ever experienced. The food was excellent though only one dish (the quail; all are listed
below) wowed me.
I had been drinking only Cali wine this week since we are in Cali, but I went to France tonight. We paired most of
the meal with the 08 Jacques Puffeney Poulsard Arbois "M" thanks to Tooch's positive Cellartracker
notes. It was my first Jura wine and I'm a fan. Mrs DT even liked it as well- drank at least a glass & a half!
She's generally not a red fan but it was on the lighter side which appealed to her palate. I was proud. We started
with an amuse bouche of ramp soup. The first course was Salad of Baby Beets with Duck Prosciutto, Goat Cheese
"Truffles" and Hazelnut Vinaigrette. The wine went especially well with the goat cheese. I then had Striped Bass
with Speck, Stinging Nettle Gnocchi, Morel Mushrooms, Asparagus, Capers and Meyer Lemon.
25195 BrunelloBob
For mains, Mrs DT had Seared Filet of Beef with Roasted Fingerling Potatoes, Cassis-Shallot Marmalade and
Stilton Butter. I had Quail Stuffed with Foie Gras, Mushrooms and Quinoa, Nettle Panisse, Spring Onions, Peas
and Artichokes which was incredible: two whole de-boned quail plus stuffing inside and veggies around the plate.
I couldn't pick out the foie gras in the stuffing, but the stuffing + wine was a great pairing. We then had a cheese
course, I wish I had gotten the names; one was a goat cheese soaked in Sauternes, one a cow's milk soaked in
2012-04-25 06:28:43 @DT I don't know what happened, but I fixed it. Can't have me with my mouth all sealed now, can we? I'd
explode from all the words needing to get out! Sounds like you had a phenomenal dinner, and you will
remember it forever. Interesting coincidence, my most memorable meal was at Le Bec Fin in 1987 and I also had
quail as my main course. Somewhere I've got all the details of that meal written down, but after 25 years it's a
little fuzzy. I do recall we were broke young government employees and so we ordered a bottle of Louis
Roederer champagne because I said "Champagne goes with everything", and it did!. It was a $72 prix fixe meal
and our bill with tax, tip and wine came to $127 per person, a very princely sum in those days. I've never
regretted the splurge, especially now with the restaurant closed. Please keep us posted on your Napa adventures!
FYI, GV made an appearance on the WLTV forum and also FB last night. On FB Gary Vaynerchuk said:
So I have been thinking of this idea : I ( @winelibrary ) want your wine business! Email me how I can get it :) gary
@ winelibrary.com.. On WL forums, he basically said he missed the community and was thinking of doing more
WLTV shows. He hung around both places for a while then disappeared again. I did send him an email, FWIW.
2012-04-25 06:53:08 @McMal: so much Brunello....so little space....
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2012-04-25 10:23:45 I think KaellaDave may have some issues with the no Sangiovese in CA rule, and I would tend to agree with him
on that. Perhaps you folks would grant an exemption.
2012-04-25 10:30:37 True Confession of a Havens Slut
Luddite = enabler
I was on Long Island yesterday taking care of my parents. In following up on clearance email I received from Prof
Luddite I visited Westhampton Wines... What a mouse trap...Havens 2005 B and B juice boxes by the cash
register!!!! Beware
Bought a sealed case HSC6PK of 1.5L of 2005 Havens Black and Blue for 41.99/ bottle. CW sold the 750ml for $29
on 23 Oct 2009. Original Box like Christmas morning
As I am leaving the store...I turn back and ask about the 2006 vintage...."Got one last case still in original box plus
what is on the shelf"
"Danny do you want good or bad" OMG could this be the last sealed box of Havens...end of a era. Is this history
for small dogs and boys or poorly stored swill from Napa. My guess is the later...so 16.99 per bottle...best I ever
saw was 19.99 from BP wine and Union Square Wine...mmm. Not a great deal....just head to door and leave....
just head to door and leave.I already have too much.....nope HSC12PK... I am prohibited from buying anymore
Havens I am prohibited from buying anymore Havens I am prohibited from buying anymore Havens I am
prohibited from buying anymore Havens. I am prohibited from buying anymore Havens I am prohibited from
buying anymore Havens I am prohibited from buying anymore Havens I am prohibited from buying anymore
Havens
Yes it is a great price and yes it solid predictable juice but but I have crossed the Rubicon. HIWBM
PhillyOffline unofficial theme is ..................... "Wear something from the 60s"
Yes the 60s .... I am thinking either James Bond tuxedo worn by George Lazenby in OHMSS or Pig Pen's outfit
from the back cover of Grateful Dead Aoxomoxoa album...a tough call
Preliminary Wine Offline List
- Kangaroo Vertical
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2012-04-25 10:44:16 "HSC12PK" NICE!
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@Phredd: If my understanding of history is correct, the first serious winegrowers in California were Italian. What
did they plant? Sangiovese! They've had like a hundred years to get it right, and the good ones are still few and
far between. Rule 23 STANDS. (see TonyO for a rule-breaking variance).
Besides, I heard Dave is making the stuff in pretty limited quantities and has to ship it all over the country
anyway... :) :)
2012-04-25 12:06:09 @DT - TY for the info on Primitivo. I knew Zin traced back to it in Italy, but did not know about Croatia and
Crljenak Kaštelanski. More DNA??
@Brooks - major score! Bravo!
2012-04-25 12:15:47 I wish to share with you all what I consider the 'musical discovery' of this young 21st century. This young man
(he is 17) recently performed on BGT (Britain's Got Talent). Searching youtube I found a few 'old' performances
of his when he was 15-16-ish. Truly an amazing voice! May or may not be your style of music, but the voice is
undeniable. Wow! Separate posts to avoid the multiple links from throwing me into moderation.
First, his BGT performance (where even stingy Simon gave them (he sings with "Charlotte") a standing ovation) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsNlcr4frs4&feature=related
(Carmen Electra - WTF did you do to your lips?!)
25204 BuffaloLou
2012-04-25 12:17:17 Jonathan Antoine, Time to Say Goodbye -
25205 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-F7LT_95E8&feature=related
2012-04-25 12:18:43 Finally, Jonathan Antoine, Ave Maria -
25206 NY Pete
25207 Phredd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dhPsd5X4OU&feature=related&noredirect=1
2012-04-25 12:49:17 different strokes for different folks.
2012-04-25 15:53:21 If I were joeg, I would say something about distinguishing objective quality from a style you just happen to like.
But I'm actually more in your camp on this, and don't really think that there is such a thing as an objective
aesthetic. His voice does happen to be in a style I like, though.
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2012-04-25 18:32:48 Nice voice. I do prefer a bit more established tenors in Pavarotti, Groban and Bocelli. But for a kid he exceeded
my expectations. I am not big on appearances, so "don't judge book by its cover", as the girl said, fits perfectly.
25209 BuffaloLou
2012-04-25 19:04:03 @cbs - me, too, but imagine him in 10 or 20 years once his voice matures and develops. I can envision him in the
came class of Pavarotti, Domingo, Carreras, and Bocelli. Gives me chills to think of what he can be. I hope he
does well.
2012-04-25 22:23:25
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=266832" rel="nofollow">2005 Marquis Philips
Sarah's Blend</a> - Australia, South Eastern (4/25/2012)
C: Opaque ruby-black with a ruby rim
N: Blueberries, blackberries, vanilla, Chinese Five Spice, licorice, hint of menthol
P: Intense black fruits, vanilla. Well integrated tannins.
F: long, sweet tannins
25211 BuffaloLou
This has big flavors, but it's not an alcoholic mess nor over the top jammy. (90 points)
25212 luddite
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2012-04-25 23:51:48 @brooks: You're most welcome! My friendly UPS driver just delivered my 3 '05 B & B 1.5L and 6 '06 B
& B 750s today as well.
Never fear my friend I will keep my eyes open for more... HSC forever!
2012-04-26 10:31:24 Villa Mattielli Amarone della Valpolicella 2008 on WTSO this morning. Nice price ($25) but passed. Neumann
(sp?) was only reviewer. CT reviewer gave it an 88 but compared it to pancake syrup.
2012-04-26 11:02:45 @ Vin; 2009 Chateau Branaire Ducru Saint Julien Bordeax offered by Gary's Wine Marketplace has some nice
review but not sure $75@ makes it a shrewd 2009 Bordeaux purchase. What do you think?
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2012-04-26 11:30:09 Well, yesterday was the first day of our local film festival. Its the baby of Roger Ebert who is definitely the Robert
Parker of film review. Love him or hate him, he sets the bar for the intellectual review of film.
http://ebertfest.com/
He's also an incredibly driven man who's endured cancer for a number of years. He has not eaten food for about
two years now being fed through a tube yet he still runs the festival and is a prolific writer. An amazing man who
has kept his intellect, compassion for others, passion for life, and humor. A real inspiration for others.
I get a kick out of it and host some of the various guests that come to town. My kids most enjoyed hosting Enzo
the dog from the movie My Dog Skip. He was also the dog in Frazier. His trainer did the owls for Harry Potter
and the bats for Batman. Really fun opportunity to meet some really interesting people.
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2012-04-26 11:35:16 McMalbec: This is a pretty fruity, big interpretation of Saint Julien. I think you will love it. Here are the Parker
notes:
"#199 Robert Parker 96 Drink: 2017 - 2035
Haut couture becomes a wine! This dense purple wine has the tell-tale notes of flowers and pencil shavings, and
its broad aromatics are intense and totally captivating. Powerful, rich, and full, but less tannic than the 2005 and
more opulent, this is a dazzling Branaire to drink between 2017-2035.
Only time will tell whether the 2009, another great effort from Branaire, will eclipse the 2005 and 2003. Certainly
at 13.6% alcohol it is the most powerful Branaire ever made, and the final blend of 70% Cabernet Sauvignon, 22%
Merlot, and the rest Cabernet Franc and Petit Verdot showcases what a great vintage 2009 is for Cabernet
Sauvignon. An inky/blue/purple color is followed by raspberry, boysenberry, crushed rock, graphite, and floral
notes, and an opaque, broad, dense, substantial, impressively structured wine without any hardness. It requires
4-5 years of cellaring, and should last four decades or more. (Tasted two times.)"
Neal Martin is more in line with my taste buds and he scored it 92 points. I will try to post his notes. Bottom line
is I think $75 is a great buy on an incredible wine. Has my big thumbs up.
"Wine Journal
Jan 2012 Neal Martin 92 Drink N/A $66-$120
Tasted at the Union de Grand Cru in London. The Branaire Ducru has a relatively showy, almost exotic bouquet
with fine delineation but missing a little focus. The palate is medium-bodied with a mocha-tinged entry, fine
tannins, showing more harmony than the nose with a refined, mocha-tinged finish. Fine. Tasted October 2011.
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Wine Journal
2012-04-26 13:06:33 Has anyone checked the Empire ship 4. Great price on that BdM.
2012-04-26 13:39:24 nice looking pinot noir split on last bottle
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2012-04-26 17:03:50 One of the best car ads ever:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/used-car-ad-pontiac-grand-am_n_1453121.html?icid=mainggrid7|main5|dl33|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D155590
I actually prepared a great online ad myself for a relative who was selling a '77 Buick Park Avenue. We were over
served when posting it. Fortunately it was just as hilarious the next day. And yes, it sold the car.
25226 McMalbec
25227 louas
2012-04-26 19:07:33 @ Vin: thanks for your research and thoughts on the Branaire. I picked up several.
2012-04-26 21:58:30 A bit shaky but the Rangers prevail in game 7. Next up: The Capitals. Hopefully we will get to see the Flyers in
the conference finals. No adult beverages tonite as the weekend shapes up to be full of alcohol. BTW, I do not
recommend watching playoff games you care about without a brewski or a bottle of wine, or ...
25228 mr21cbs
2012-04-26 22:11:40 Congrats Louas your Rangers are moving on. Looks like Flyers vs. Devils in the next round. Eagles get a stud
defensive end in Fletcher Cox in the first round. Not a bad night for the Philly teams.
2012-04-26 22:42:01 @John O' : agree on the PN amuse bouches on LB.... in for 6
2012-04-26 22:47:11 @McMalbec - I am not an expert like Vinmoet, but the 2009 Chateau Branaire Ducru was one of the ones that
made my short list after tasting it alongside over 30 other examples of 2009 Bordeaux. It was already showing
layered complexity and I thought it would be food-friendly as well. I bought a bottle for around $60 pre-release
and wish I had had the funds to buy more to drink it at various stages since it was already enjoyable.
25229 TonyO
25230 K is for Kate
25235 Brooks
2012-04-27 10:06:34 what the coffee machine is broken?...again...so I left it on last night....wow glass is not supposed to melt...where
is the warranty ..nice herbal teas in pretty little bags...WITHOUT CAFFINE..no diet cokes in frig...decafe diet coke?
why bother just chemicals...Dannon exp date 2010?....Snap Starbucks has like 40 kids on line getting
crappaccinos..why do they need a boost..is there a little black spot on the sun today? UBC comes home this
weekend til August OMG!!! ....someone talk me down.......someone talk me down.
OBTW does anyone out there think that the stock market is real....mmm 75% of trading is computer driven...so
not enough done by hand....(TO/BB stay away)...I was watching CNBC...very entertaining like watching the cheer
leaders on ESPN channel...ammo canned goods gold and red wine....nothing bad here ....just drive on...glad our
president has a big stick =) confirmed by out VP
Big wine night tomorrow night 6 men 6 hours...3 hours wine bar...3 hours steak dinner... another friend getting
married late in life...he has no grey hairs..mmm ...wine list and details to follow Be well
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2012-04-27 10:24:55 @Kate: thanks for your thoughts, also. BTW, are you still in Madtown (or the metro area)?
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2012-04-27 10:36:07 Kate, you are dead on. You've motivated me to repeat my mantra about this vintage. This has the fruit of 2003
with the aging potential of 2005. That means this is accessible now and will improve with age and be a wine that
can last 3, 4 maybe 5 decades. I would guess that the drinking window between 2025 and 2035 will be
absolutely amazing.
2009 is like a 1961 or 1982. Its just a vintage that is super rare. 2010 is also known as a stellar vintage and the
critics argue about which is better, '09 or '10. But '10 does not have the early accessibility of '09. Its also a much
smaller crop so prices are crazy and will get crazier.
I know you keep hearing about a Bordeaux bubble. In fact, you've been hearing about it since 2005ish, arguably
since 2000ish. I respect folks that keep bringing that up but want to draw attention to the fact that China has ten
times our population. As far as development, they are in their infancy. We've historically been the buyer of
Bordeaux. That demand has now shifted to China which is still in its infancy.
25238 BrunelloBob
I have a lot of friends doing business in China. The Chinese don't know their wine but want the best and are
buying it, even to mix with their Coca Cola (and I kid you not). The best = Bordeaux right now. I am sure they will
catch on to Burgundy too. They continue to buy up Premier crus but are now buying wines like the Branaire. The
middle class is just starting there and they are already driving the market. That demand can only sky rocket while
2012-04-27 11:00:58 Bordeaux has a vintage like 2009; they have to go back to 1961 for comparison.
Montalcino has a vintage like 2007; they just go back to 2006..... hmmmmmm :)
And the Chinese need to start growing their own wine, or they are going to screw up more than French prices
tout de suite.
Calm down Brooks, The UBC is only gonna be home for five minutes, and then he'll be out until 4 AM with his
shipmates...
(TWSS commentary politely avoided)
2012-04-27 11:25:43 @john o' and @TonyO I went in for 6 of the Last Bottle PN juice boxes as well. CT notes looked good, and am
searching for more juice boxes to leave at my mom's so she can have a nice glass of wine with her pizza without
throwing away half a bottle. She only drinks occassionally, as she's on too much medicine to do it more often.
@BBob Glad I'm not a huge Bordeaux fan to start with, would prefer to spend $60-$75 for a killer Italian bottle
(BdM. Barolo, Guado al Tasso) that I will enjoy much more. But that's just how I roll!
Phillies back home after a long and frustrating road trip. Hopefully things will start to improve... and the guys will
get and stay healthy!
Anyone planning on checking out the WL nooner? (TWSS)
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2012-04-27 11:48:14 Special sale has started... prices have changed
2009 - Carpineta Fontalpino Do Ut Des 23
2004 - Camerano Barolo 29.88
Grabbed one of each
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2005 - La Gerla Brunello Di Montalcino 25.88 4 bottles left B squared
2012-04-27 12:10:26 @brooks I don't know how you did that, I can't get into their website at all, and before noon I kept clicking the
banner and it never updated. Grrr...
2012-04-27 12:18:44 WIM - i will email you :)
2012-04-27 12:56:50 @Tony O , @WIM
The Wine Library super sale has 750's of teh Pinot for $31. $12 for the juice box is a lot nicer.
2012-04-27 13:00:19 Any thoughts on the 2009 Petit Guiraud on sale for $10.02 at WL today. It seems like a good vintage to snag a
second as a daily-drinker type Sauternes, and I love me some stickies.
2012-04-27 13:28:52 @Phredd I was looking at the Petit Guiraud as well and for $10 it seems like a no-brainer to try a few, and I'm not
a huge stickie fan, but I do like them with some blue cheese! Got a couple Jean Edwards Stagecoach cabs as well!
@john o' I saw that and thought the very same thing!
2012-04-27 13:52:20 Jean Edwards Stagecoach. Dang. Still haven't tried that and I really want to, but it's sold out. Ah, well. Next
time. In on Petit Guiraud.
2012-04-27 15:07:48 In on the La Gerla Rosso (previously covered the BdM), a Vac. and a champagne.
Got on-line too late for the Stagecoach and a couple of others.
2012-04-27 15:45:32 @Brooks ~ Welcome home UBC.......welcome home!......my boy has about three weeks left......and not a moment
too soon.......parking ticket and eviction notice.......seven unrelated people living in a house zoned single
family........The Fall of the House of Animal...news at eleven!
Any Florida inmates?..........will be in Destin early August for parents 50th anniversary.........25 siblings, nieces,
nephews, inlaws, and outlaws in one beach house.......cannot be large enough.......may need a break.........curious
about their zoning codes.....
stock market = legal online gambling
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2012-04-27 17:04:51 @BBob Went in on the La Gerla RdM too! At that price it's a cellar defender! There are gems in the WL sale, you
have to hunt to find them and hope you don't get the dreaded email that they oversold after you think you made
it in...
@brooks Enjoy your summer with the UBC!
Any of the other inmates other than the usual suspects mentioned above planning on attending the Philly offline
in May? We want to see you there!
2012-04-27 17:29:55 @McMalbec - Yep, still in Madison. I have too much wine to move now. ;)
2012-04-27 17:48:14 @PTHC: A more interesting question than: How low can BdM prices go?
might be "How low can RdM prices go?
and: Where does that leave Chianti?
:?:
2012-04-27 19:08:02 hello gang, back from a long week in Taiwan. What did I miss?
the ultra-hyped barolo deal? didn't miss anything there.... thought JohnR and others nailed it on that one.
Honestly, it may be a good wine, but i don't have enough info to act at 50 bucks a bottle. at 29 or maybe even 35
i take a crack at a pair... but risk/reward not there.
the sale today! well i see i missed out on a nice Clerico Barolo Pajana... too bad.
And for those of you who bought the DuMol Jack Roberts Run Syrah, you will be very pleased. that was a nice
price on it too!
Frankly i am shocked to see DuMol at WL. Sign of the times in the wine biz....their allocations used to sell out
very quickly and i would have to call or email the owner and beg for extra bottles... today they have sent me the
third reminder that i have not acted on my allocation offer (and i do not intend to, given they want 60bucks for
their regular cuvee now... I am out!).
25255 TonyO
25256 johnr
Have a great weekend!
2012-04-27 19:51:51 Note to Inmates: The first wine listed, Hunter III Sauvignon Blanc is the best deal listed on the WL Spring Cleaning
Sale.....delicious with grilled chicken/shrimp and a RAGING STEAL at $11.11........................BUY !
2012-04-27 20:00:35 I stole all of those St. Urban hof kabinetts. Considering the others I have had from St. Urban and for $15 out the
doors its a steal. 10 Rieslings have been extremely good, better than advertised. Also, 09 Cathiard Vosne
Romanee @$70 is a great deal. Its not his Malconsorts or RSV, but Cathiard is a consistant overachiever, even at
$250 for is Malconsorts. I believe he is in the class with DRC, Leroy, Jayer and Fourrer.
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2012-04-27 20:08:46 Taiwan?
Paid $79.98 (WL) for the Clerico Pajana 5-6 months ago so....yeah....today would have been a better deal...
Feel better about my Hunter purchase T.O., but I'm always leary of Cali S.B. I know what to expect out of
Marlborough, but California is WAY more random.
@JR, Thanks, I wanted some of that St Urbans...Am I supposed to call you a DBag now? I forget.... ;)
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@BB I thought you were "dead" or maybe its just smokeandmirrors?
@BB: have no fear...........it is a fantastic wine !
Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated...
2007 Cinnabar Santa Lucia Highlands PN.........de ^*&*(&(* licios PN....slightly larger than expected
(TWSS).....varitetally correct (open for debate, I think it is a very ripe PN but does have many traits of a
PN)................and now, for you BB:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbhsYC4gKy4
2012-04-27 21:01:55 Eddie Vedder commands an audience unlike anyone in today's music world..........
2012-04-27 21:13:57 Exxxxxxxcelllllleeent........
2012-04-28 02:52:53 TNs from our stops the past two days in Napa/Sonoma
(Napa: Hendry, Schramsberg, Vincent Arroyo, Frank)
(Sonoma: Siduri/Novy, Joseph Swan, Rochioli, Copain)
Unfortunately back to Cleveland tomorrow :(
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2012-04-28 06:50:12
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25271 John O'
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2012-04-28 12:58:15
Believe it or not, Mrs DT found a RED she likes! 06 Joseph Swan zinfandel Mancini Ranch, FTW! She tasted almost
everything I did, white red and pink. I'm very happy, though I still can't convince her to join me in Philly. She also
really liked the bubbles at Schramsberg.
Always wanted to do Schramsberg...
Enjoyed a 2002 Jade Mountain Syrah last night with Indian food. Windy, cold and wet outside, this combiation
warmed us up.
@McMalbec
The Jade Mtn syrah from last bottle was a killer deal. The '04 is also outstanding
@John O & McMalbec: agree on the 2002 Jade Mountain (also had a bottle last night).....have seen some
bottle variation but when it's right, it's dy-no-mite !
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2012-04-28 16:42:26 I got into a friendly argument with a couple of my friends about Cognac. The gist of it is whether Cognac is
"wine". I said that it isn't since it is distilled grape juice, where as wine is fermented beverage. Anyone here cares
to educate and enlighten me on the subject? Much appreciated...
2012-04-28 17:43:25 @mr21cbs - Simply put, Cognac is a brandy, which is defined as an alcoholic spirit made from the distillation of
wine. In the case of Cognac, it's a double distillation. Since it does start out as wine, some people refer to it as a
wine, but that's inaccurate. It is truly a spirit. I think another point of confusion stems from the fact that it goes
through (sometimes considerable) barrel aging before being bottled and offered for sale.
2012-04-28 20:18:41 I have it on good authority that Chelios prefers Armagnac!
2012-04-28 21:12:25 I need to get me a black and whie avatar, like the cool kids...
2012-04-29 01:38:08 I had a blind Malbec tasting for my best friend's birthday tonight and the Altitude 1050 wound up being my
WOTN (beautiful fresh fruit compared to the heaviness and oak of the others), whereas the Lindaflor 2007 I
poured about half of my taste out (oaky and hot), though it was better when I went back to it later. The 2008
Durigutti and the 2009 Achával-Ferrer were popular with my friends and I thought both were decent for the
price. My second favourite was probably the 2009 Bodega Colomé- it was a little sweet but also had respectable
acid and tannin and a little spice.
2012-04-29 02:20:14 Finally back in Cleveland! What else to pop at 2AM after being in California than an 06 Havens Syrah that I got in
a trade from BLou. It's absolutely singing! Drinking perfectly right now.
2012-04-29 03:22:57 David: Thanks for the notes on the '06 Havens syrah. I have not consumed one in the last 18 months, so I'll open
one today with a monster 2"+ porterhouse which has been dry aging for 6 days.
Hope your trip went well. Given your return time, you must have gotten in a full last day. Fortunately, a late
night flight from CA to Cleveland is much shorter than the same to Tampa. I'm getting too old and stiff for those
red-eye trips.
2012-04-29 10:07:30 Dear JohnR
I thought the agreement was that we don't squabble around here? Let's stick to that please.
2012-04-29 11:39:40 Perhaps you should heed your own advise, dearest michael
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2012-04-29 12:29:51 @wine magnet Great plan for the Havens! Unfortunately our day consisted only of organizing everything back
into suitcases, driving from Santa Rosa to SFO then flying home. We got up around 9:30am PST and were on the
road by 11 for a 2:30 flight with a brief layover in Denver, so weren't able to do anything else. Landed around
midnite EST then an hour drive home. Losing three hours on the way back doesn't help.
I picked up one of these at Napa Valley Wine & Cigar which
made bringing bottles back a breeze. (haha just realized the nice alliteration)
http://www.thewinecheck.com/ No more expensive for the unit than shipping a case home commercially, and
we had up to two checked bags so no additional money for the airline. I'll be using it again heading to Philly. They
had them discounted for Berserkerday but the shipping was almost half as much as the bag itself- I passed then
but I'm glad I was able to get one for almost the same discount.
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25303 KaellaDave
25304 johnr
25305 BrunelloBob
25307 A Frayed Knot
2012-04-29 13:07:11 JohnR, I have not mentioned your name either here or in the forums out of respect for this site.
Please dont continue your mocking demeanor. There is absolutely no need for that.
2012-04-29 13:33:32 I'll be doing some ribs with AFK rub today. Smells great. Rubbed down last night and marinated overnight in
fridge. They will be going in the smoker later. Thanks Tim.
2012-04-29 13:48:30 sounds like a plan, extend that to Lou and everyone else.
2012-04-29 13:51:06 Beatlejuice....Beatlejuice....BEATLEJUICE!
2012-04-29 16:32:37 Attaboy Dave.......I've got a few racks of baby backs on the smoker myself.........my sons choice for his 18th
bday..........I hear louas has some st. louas ribs cooking too.
Those of you that have not gotten your rub yet, rest assured it is on the way.......I had a busy couple of weeks and
sent the samples out a few days apart...........you should get them soon!
25310 smokenmirrors
@BB ~ Welcome to the black and white era, flyboy! :)
2012-04-29 16:44:49 John,
I have too much respect for what AFK and Mike have done here to continue this banter here with you. however
you do need to realize that at no time am I going to take any back talk or admonishment from someone like you
who is young enough to be my son. That just isnt going to happen. Something tells me that you want to continue
this and if so please feel free to reach out to me via FB or the WL forums. There is no need for any of this to
happen here.
always great to here from Bobby Montalcino although its spelled beetle juice
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2012-04-29 16:57:34 As much as I enjoy a heated debate, this has managed to be a forum of information, humor, and
comraderie........let's hope it stays that way or %&^*&( heads are gonna roll...........all this talk about
ribs has me thinking I need to break out my AFK Rub and get my smoke on...........just finished up making a big pot
of Manhattan Clam Chowder aka Vegetable Soup with Clams as many of my fine New England friends and family
members have said "there is only one Clam Chowdah and it's not red".....then they tasted it and said, "call it
whatever you want, it's delicious"! Bacon, onions, garlic, carrots, corn, lima beans (an ode to my Grandmother's
version), tomatoes, Siracha, clam juice, shucked clams, a couple dozen littlenecks in the shell, salt, pepper,
parsley, and chicken stock if needed to thin the broth.....wine pairing has to yield to a cold beer (Moosehead is
my choice..................)
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NY Pete
NY Pete
NY Pete
BrunelloBob
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2012-04-29 21:47:06
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25328 KaellaDave
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25331 A Frayed Knot
2012-04-30 00:04:58
25332 mr21cbs
2012-04-30 09:26:15
I hate the fu#king flyers.
just wondering ... JR, are you a flyer fan?
and a blast from the past ... HAT TRICK ... :)
Sometimes I spell things wrong on purpose.
A younger man would understand that. ;)
Just completed stuffing our faces with a great rack of St. Louis ribs which spent the nite in the fridge with AFK's
rib rub which is really good! A little sweet, a little hot, a little peppery and a lot delicious. Paired with some ice
cold Tecate!
I sent before and after pictures to mr21cbs so he may have a chance to post them later.
Speaking of the Stanley Cup...How bout them Rangers???
and hey, look out for the Coyotes.
@NY Pete: Totally agree re:Flyers!!
@NYP I hate the Devils,,,
@AFK Your rub sounds so good I want to buy a BBQ just to try it...
GO FLYERS!!!
AFK - The rub is awesome. I really liked it and so did Nancy, but it surprised me with the heat level of the spice. I
am a total chili head so I loved it but the kids were not wild about it. They usually love my ribs but said these
were too spicy for them.
@Louas and Dave ~ Thanks for the kind words.........to make it less hot for my younger ones, I usually make a rack
with less rub on it and don't let it set as long.........only 4 hours instead of overnight..........seems like the longer
they sit in the rub, the more intense the flavors become.
Louas, your pictures of ribs in the AFK-provided rub have been posted to
http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/great-escapes
~
On a separate note, feel free to hate the Flyers: "We Don't Like You Either!"
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2012-04-30 12:10:11 Last night with Cottoletta Al Milanese
2008 Casanova di Neri Rosso di Montalcino
couldnt help but think of brunello bob as I tasted this :)
2012-04-30 15:34:24 @AFK: Just received your rib rub! Thanks and it couldn't have come at a better time. Having survived for the
past week by eating carryout pizza, while Mrs. Luddite was visiting her best friend in WI., I can't wait to eat some
home cooking!! I'm thinking chicken vice ribs...
2012-04-30 16:25:18 @TonyO
I sent you an email at ajo...2003@yahoo.
Hope that's you. I couldn't find the independentvending email addy.
25338 McMalbec
Jim
2012-04-30 18:22:25 A nice deal on an everyday drinking sonoma merlot (Kunde) at 8.99@ (free shipping on 4) on WTSO.
2012-04-30 18:58:38 2007 Torre Quarto Uva di Troia Bottaccia Puglia IGT still one of the best QPRs around! Drinking really well tonight!
25340 NaH
25342 mr21cbs
2012-04-30 19:49:52 @WIM I had the exact bottle with dinner tonight!
2012-04-30 21:01:06 NaH and WiM, how is the 2008 of the Torre Quarto Uva di Troia Bottaccia Puglia IGT? It is on sale for $10.98 at
WL, worth a try? DavidT, Grape_ape and Cabdrinker gave there high marks. I may go for a few...
25343 louas
25344 Josie
2012-04-30 22:11:23 Now hate the Capitals as well!
2012-04-30 22:43:43 Vinmoet: reading your post of 4/27, noting the Bordeaux/Chinese buying issues....I think last time I actually
posted here was to inform the inmates of the Nov 4-5 2011 Acker Merrill Hong Kong auction, Burgundies, of
which my Tuesday night friend's cellar dominated. I forget how many world records they set in that auction, but
it was in the neighborhood of 200. Something like $14million of Burgundy sold in those two days, which was
exactly the seller's intention...to introduce the Chinese to Burgundy. I've heard the same (disgusting) first-hand
stories regarding the mix w Coca-Cola! Also, magnums & Jeros do not command the same premiums in
China, as a big bottle can only be admired & displayed once...regular 750's are much more valuable. Look up
the actual selling prices on the auction website - amazing numbers. Even the catalog for serious bidders was
expensive...red leather w gilt lettering, color plates of every bottle & it's vineyard/cave, gorgeous reference
book....
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2012-04-30 23:32:08 Howdy folks Was in Chicago last week for a few days. Managed to get 1 dinner at the Frontera Grill. Highly recommended
(although the wine by glass list is frankly way overpriced).
I made my usual trip to Binny's, where I saw a bunch of 2009 Bordeauxs, but alas I did not ask Vinmoet for his
opinion. So I got a bunch of other stuff...
I had a nice cru Beaujolais tonight from Chiroubles. Can't recall the name, as I left the bottle at Dude Howard's
(we were watching NBC's "Smash") but I gotta tell ya, I hope Beaujolais doesn't get much more press. I really
really enjoy their crus, and they are at such nice prices it is hard to go wrong. But the prices have edged up over
the last couple of years. Can't it just be our little secret?
25350 vinmoet
ptaylor2112
2012-05-01 10:08:16 OK, I'm not Mr. Burgundy over here, in fact I'm generally not Mr. White wine either, but this is a very correct nice
white Burgundy for about $30 and is in a fine drinking window:
http://www.jjbuckley.com/2007-BillaudSimon-Chablis-Mont-de-Milieu-Chardonnay/p~2007~13649~750~f~ws
BH91
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25352 BrunelloBob
25353 NaH
2012-05-01 10:43:14 Josie! Great to see you back! How have you been?
2012-05-01 11:42:38 Josie Wristbands Rides Again!
2012-05-01 12:26:48 @MR21CBS. the 2008 is good as well. Not as fruit forward but worth it at the price.
25354 mr21cbs
They make some white wines which are good, affordable sippers
2012-05-01 13:02:16 @NaH, thank you. Bought a few bottles. I did find the whites from the same producer and will seek those as well.
25355 luddite
2012-05-01 15:31:46 @Josie! The inmates have missed you!!
@louas: Sports wise we seem to be on opposite ends of the spectrum! GO CAPS! GO BUCKEYES! Perhaps we
can both agree to hate the Yankees and leave it at that :)
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2012-05-01 18:52:04 I used to think Everyone hated the Yankees...
Hanging out in the Doubletree Memphis. Free reception...2 free dronks...choice of Barefooty cab, merlot, or
chard...
Recomendations?
Anyone?
2012-05-01 19:06:16 @BBob Pick one, close your eyes and swallow (TWSS)
@Josie Glad to see you resurface! Hope all is well and you're still drinking wine!
@mr21cbs I've also got some of the '08 in the cellar. Will have to pop one for comparison soon! Haven't had
their whites, may need to investigate them as well!
@NaH When do we get to see the menu for the Philly offline? I'm getting hungry and Brooks keeps eating my
shoes...
2012-05-01 20:15:29 OMG!
THE BEST TWSS EVER!
2012-05-01 20:24:41 @TonyO - post the recipe for the NY Chowder if you may
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@Luddite. we r in agreement!
Grilled pollo asado, grilled veg and some brown rice. Paired with Supernatural. That wine is good. The color is
beautiful as well!
I hate the #%*($%& Devils!
Woot has a nice deal on a case of mixed Pedroncelli today.
I just feel compelled to point out that the Roman's Lot II may be the biggest QPR ever. 100 point wine! (For
those who missed it, check CT.)
@Bob and other Brunello hounds: Wine Anthology offer on a 2003 and 04
http://www.wineanthology.com/c-1004-daily-deal.aspx
Deal or no deal?
2012-05-02 12:09:46 The menu for the Philly Offline is posted. It's on the WL site.
2012-05-02 12:17:33 @mr.21cbs: this may have been discussed earlier but when I connect with this site, Explorer tells me I have
become disconnected. I have observed it for about two weeks and I get that message consistently. Any idea what
the problem is?
2012-05-02 13:58:27 @mcMalbec... the la poderina is available for a much lower price elsewhere from time to time. of course the 03
maybe not so much...
Cindy just had the 06 (a vastly better vintage IMHO and taste preference only) for 26.88 a week or so ago!
am not a big 03 fan... too raisiny too often for me.
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2012-05-02 14:10:35 McMalbec, a bit more information please: Version of Windows, Version of IE, is it 32 or 64-bit? So I understand
properly - IE says that it is offline after connecting to TH!?
2012-05-02 14:23:55 McMalbec, I don't always run IE, but when I do - I prefer compatibility mode. Try it and let me know if it still
causes trouble. May I recommend Google Chrome?
2012-05-02 14:40:05 McMalbec, BaroloDude - I have the La Poderina 2006 for $24.95 per bottle...should be the lowest price around.
Anyone who missed the Ship4Free on it last week let me know if you want any. I'll be happy to honor the Ship4
offer.
2012-05-02 14:55:45 @ mr21cbs: Explorer 9, Windows 7, 32 bit.
I will copy the exact message language next time I go to the site.
2012-05-02 15:17:23 @Adam: thanks but I purchased 4 from you last week!
2012-05-02 15:33:29 McMalbec, PTaylor2112 had similar problem with IE. My research revealed that it should be run in compatibility
mode when accessing some WordPress sites. Apparently we are one of those sites due to the plug-ins,
stylesheets, etc. Just click the "broken page" icon in your address bar to enable compatibility mode. See if that
solves your problem.
2012-05-02 16:46:40 Hey inmates please help @mr21cbs and his family to reach their goal of raising $200 for a cure for diabetes.
They only need $50 more! They are racing 63 miles on June 2nd in the Tour de Cure.
@TonyO: If you step up to the plate, I'll even stop hating the Yankees for the rest of the season!
25381 mr21cbs
http://main.diabetes.org/site/TR?px=7302079&pg=personal&fr_id=8069&et=uwuchGwe8WnrzGK
41EWZUA&s_tafId=408036
2012-05-02 18:36:05 @luddite, thank you for your donation and the post here, I greatly appreciate it. I consider all of you my friends,
even those who root for NJ Devils or NY Rangers, and I feel pretty uncomfortable soliciting donations from
friends. I completely understand that the funds are tight for everyone, but if you or your business makes
contributions, please keep me in mind.
~
I participate in many local charity rides. It used to be that 3 were a must: Multiple-Sclerosis Society, American
Cancer Society and Diabetes Association. However with the prices to participate rising, and minimum donations
to ride skyrocketing, I can no longer ride for the MS. Their solicitation has been obnoxious. Livestrong requires
$500/rider, which I can't collect, so they are off my list as well. Now I ride two "mandatory" from my point of
view national events: ADA on June 2nd (63mi or 100km) and ACS on July 8th (100mi). This year my sons want to
ride with me the Century for ACS, and with so many friends and family members lost to cancer, we will do it,
even if I have to support it myself. Thank you in advance if you decide to donate!
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2012-05-02 19:55:15 Sitting in a reasonably classy restaurant bar -i mcewens in memphis - recommended! And I gotta watch the
yankees on tv. Really?
The friggin yankees?I
In memphis TN?
Just cause they're on ESPN doesn't mean you have to watch it!!
Ludds; I shall try to forgive your sell out for a good cause
No guarantees
2012-05-02 20:50:42 @luddite: in true Yankee fashion, I have stepped up to the plate AND delivered ! THE YANKEEEEEEEEEEEES WIN !
Glad to help a worthy cause !
@BB: Yankee Universe always trumps Red Sox Nation (except for 2004 when Babe drank a bit too much and
forgot to haunt the ALCS....)
Our youngest makes her first communion this weekend............family all around, I like that !!!!
Just returned from Hen of the Wood where our friends are finalists in the James Beard Awards this
weekend....time for some love for Vermont and an incredible restaurant ! Bring it home team Hen !!!!
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25385 louas
2012-05-02 20:52:48 Just popped a Keller juice box (Last Bottle deal) ...................really nice PN which held up well after a FANTASTIC
2009 Bergstrom PN
2012-05-02 21:42:38 @TonyO: Bergstrom ROCKS!! Every time I pop one I am so so happy!
@mr21cbs: Thank you for all u do. I'm in.
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2012-05-02 22:37:09 Back from a family re-union this past weekend in the Pocono's. Beautiful area. Got lucky (TWSS) and got the
presidential suite (at the regular room rate) at The Inn at Pocono Manor. Huge room!
Saw "Tough Mudders" for the first time. (Over 4,000 were there for one of their weekend events.) I thought we
inmates were crazy; we're amateurs! Those guys (and gals) are nuts!
While there we stopped at "Barley Creek". Awesome burger, and fantastic beer! Wine list, not so much. (They
have their own micro brewery.) Enjoyed their Triple (14%ABV. Yikes!!) and a fantastic Cocoa Stout. Wow! If
you're in the area, I highly recommend it.
@David T - Thanks for posting a brief note on the '06 Havens Syrah. I will definitely have to pop one soon.
Question: did you decant, and if so, how long?
@AFK - You rock my friend! I rec'd your rib rub mix. THANK YOU! I now have to go out and get a rack of ribs (all
the ribs I have are already marinated.) I want to smoke them, so I might wait for slightly warmer weather. We'll
see the forecast.
Did a hockey game break out in the Hills while I was away? I did, however, have to catch up on over 7 pages of
posts...
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2012-05-02 22:42:57 @mrcbs.... It appears my email has been hacked for the first time ever (i think), so I can't use a credit card right
now. I'll donate the next time around. And congratulations on hitting your goal.
re: Bergstrom P/N - I had some on New Year's Eve... It was a little meh for me. Too much black fruit. But then
again, maybe I was biased due to the high markup at the restaurant.
25388 BuffaloLou
25389 luddite
re: Keller P/N - I haven't had their Pinot, but I quite liked the Chard on TSO for 19.99. It was light on the oak, but
there was enough of it to make it interesting.
2012-05-02 22:44:17 @louas - your ribs look terrific! (Some credit to AFK for the rub!)
Must say, I love spicy heat, and some sweet along with it balances. Can't wait to try AFKs rub!
2012-05-02 23:30:23 @TonyO/louas: Thank you both for supporting the team that brought us TH and keeps it running smoothly (if
you check out the worthy causes page you can see that finding a cure for Diabetes is also a priority with @AFK
and his family).
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2012-05-03 01:20:09 Thanks for the link luddite............I had lost it.............and yes my family is the Diabetes poster family..........lucky
for me, I'm at the other end of the spectrum......hypoglycemic...........and so far, none of my children have had
any problems (must be good genes on their mother's side).............ride on mr21cbs!
25393 David T
2012-05-03 10:41:48 @BLou The Havens was a PnP. I have two coworkers who do those Tough Mudders- they have shown me
pictures & I agree I think they're nuts.
2012-05-03 11:03:20 Anyone get an early e-mail on the Wine Library Super Tuscan deal at noon EST? If not, anyone figure out what it
is from the clues?
2012-05-03 12:26:19 its the Le Macchiole Paleo Rosso 07....cab franc grown in tuscany.
2012-05-03 13:03:37 Thank you to everyone who contributed to the ADA Tour de Cure, your support is much appreciated.
25394 john o'
25395 BaroloDude
25396 mr21cbs
25397 TonyO
25399 BaroloDude
2012-05-03 15:37:30 Just bought tickets for Santana AND The Allman Bros. at SPAC in July...............it doesn't get much better than that
if you want to hear the guitar played by three of the best...............
2012-05-03 18:44:58 "THIS WILL SELL OUT"... maybe just not today.
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25401 David T
2012-05-03 23:34:21
2012-05-04 01:30:36
25403 BrunelloBob
2012-05-04 05:32:05
25406 luddite
2012-05-04 08:11:25
Finca Sandoval 04, deeeeeeelightful over the last two days. LOTS of tobacco/dark fruit/leathery/light peppery
goodness.
@Tony O - I am envious! Enjoy the concert!
Just another day at the office... I don't want to go into too much detail but I found evidence of controlled
prescription diversion which is a big and growing problem in Ohio. Contacted the pharmacy board which has law
enforcement authority in addition to licensing pharmacists and interns, and spoke with an agent who wants an
affidavit to add to an ongoing investigation. If anyone has experience writing one, I never have & would love
input.
D.T.: Protect yourself, speak with a lawyer.
If you give an affadavit, make sure it can't be used against you in a libel suit down the road. You may be
protected in this context, but I wouldn't count on it.
Good luck, and thanks for coming forward.
@David T: Proud of you for doing the right thing! Sounds like good advice from @B²!
42 years ago but feels like yesterday. Still no answers for those who were wounded on that day :evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnOoNM0U6oc&feature=related
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2012-05-04 10:14:57 @Luddite: Wow, 42 years ago. A pretty vivid memory for me. I was a freshman at UW Madison and after this
incident all hell broke loose. Demonstrations, rioting, National Guard, tear gas, classes cancelled. Chaos.
On a lighter note: Feliz Cinco de Mayo weekend to all!
25408 BuffaloLou
25411 ptaylor2112
2012-05-04 14:00:45 @TO - just heard today that Santana and ABB are coming to Buffalo, too. Unfortunately to Darien Lake; sucky
venue, worse acoustics.
2012-05-04 16:20:56 I saw ABB on one of the rare occasions when they did *not* play "Whipping Post." It was strange. Even stranger
was the drunk/high dude that kept yelling "Play some Allllllllllllllllllllman Brothers!" Fortunately he passed out
midway through the show.
In other news, the 2007 San Roman Toro is on Cindy for $37.37, with free shipping on 3. That's good enough for
me.
And finally, the Mrs. is cooking a ham tonight. I'm opening a Beaujolais or a Riesling, eh make that a Beaujolais
*and* a Riesling. :)
Everyone have a great weekend!
25415 BuffaloLou
Patrick
2012-05-04 21:31:55 <a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=816695" rel="nofollow">2006 Havens Wine Cellars
Syrah</a> - USA, California, Napa Valley (5/4/2012)
C: Opaque purple-black
N: Berries, berries, and more berries, spice, bacon, and a hint of vanilla
P: Dark berries with an earthy component; full in the mouth from front, to mid, to finish
F: med+
A delicious Syrah that is ready to drink now. (Thanks to David T for pointing it out!) Beautifully integrated;
smooth and easy drinking. Nice acid would make it food friendly, but I enjoyed it solo. Killer QPR (as I got this on
fire sale after Havens closed.) (90 points)
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2012-05-04 21:44:30 To DavidT. I am also a Pharmacist. I have written to the board inder similar circumstances. Just tell the truth
of what you have observed. Dont make any inferences, as your suspicions may be wrong. Make sure your
supervisors are aware of every step you take, unless they are suspected culprits. In that case keep someone else
trusted to keep quiet informed. And of coures always keep copys. Good luck. It can get messy
25417 BuffaloLou
2012-05-04 21:45:18 Darn it all, Patrick, you had to go an mention the SRT... I've stayed away from CW offers for a few days now, and
didn't see this until you pointed it out. SRT is too good to pass up. In for 3 (Strictly for scientific purposes to keep
the vertical going... ) (Seriously, TY for mentioning it!)
Ham... Always a tough wine pairing for me. It's the natural sweetness that makes it difficult. I haven't tried it
yet, but an off dry Riesling might work. You mentioned Riesling Patrick; off dry or dry? I've done beer with ham
(and either scalloped potatoes or potatoes au gratin) and it works, too.
25418 TonyO
2012-05-04 22:14:22 @ptaylor2112...............always a few like that at those type of shows................I have heard "FREEBIRD" yelled at
plenty of shows that were NOT Skynyrd !
I was looking at some old concert ticket stubs (yeah, I kept almost all of them)....found a stub from the same date
as the coming show, July 27th, from exactly 20 years ago (Santana at SPAC with opening act Phish.....) also found
a very cool picture of a very young TonyO (1980 or 1981) with Carlos Santana after a show at the Palace Theater
in Albany, NY................would love to get a "now and then" pic with Carlos in July................hope the show evolves
into a jam session, that would be cool as Carlos, Warren, and Derek trucks can rip it
@BLou: even if the venue sucks, this is a NOT TO BE MISSED show IMO......can only imagine Carlos on stage for
"Soulshine"............epic is an understatement.....
25420 BrunelloBob
25421 TonyO
2012-05-04 22:24:45 Dude, yelling "Freebird" at a non-Skynard concert IS pretty Funny....might have been me...
2012-05-04 23:48:59 some late night (by East coast standards.....) ear candy.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnLs7tpsnw0&feature=g-vrec
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2012-05-05 11:49:44 Warren Haynes....saw him play as ABB in NYC with UBC... LA Forum with Dead...and in Boston as Govt Mule....Let
me get this right, he plays with two of the top 25 rock bands of all time and and has his own kick ass band.
Amazing. My guess he is very busy and rarely gets a chance to workout and eat properly. I saw him back stage
at Forum...poor guy looked like 20 miles of bad road. Dude take care of yourself
Prof Luddite still one of the most nerve hitting songs..What a horrible event for all those involved...I love CSNY
CSN CN and Neil. I was too young to appreciate the times and what was a happening but my sister shared with
me that things were changing. She was a bit of a rebel and gave my parents a good run for the money. She tried
to make it to Woodstock but did not make it too far and needed to turn back.
Very hectic on family and biz fronts...but did pick up some San Roman 007...As John O has shared....this is
powerful stuff..I have miles to travel and several bases to touch..take a chance to enjoy the season...and listen to
the birds..and a time to every purpose under Heaven...be well
25424 BrunelloBob
25425 John O'
2012-05-05 12:38:19 FREEBIRD!
2012-05-05 13:06:58 @Brooks
I now have the '04, '05, '06 and '07. 1 more vintage and I'll have a team that will beat the Miami Heat.
25426 BrunelloBob
2012-05-05 19:29:28 Anyone have any idea how I got on K&L's mailing list? That's snail mail, not email.
Never bought from them in my life.
I figure they're either the one's behind The Temple's security breach :) or someone told them that they are the
only internet retailer I'm Not buying from...Hope I didn't hurt their feelings...
2012-05-05 19:35:32 @BBob Do you get Wine Enthusiast Magazine? I do, and I get K&L snail mail and they don't even ship to VA!
25428 wine magnet
2012-05-05 21:06:36 @B: Don't knock being on K&L's mailing list. Their website is probably the most informative around, and
their continuous online auctions have offered some darned good buys, w/excellent provenance. Shipping from
CA to FL has been the cheapest of any Left coast site for me. With some states (incl FL) you have to call to place
an order rather than do it online, even though they still ship here. No complaints from this corner!
25429 BrunelloBob
2012-05-05 21:37:21 @WIM: yes on the WE, though I'm paying little or nothing for it :) . Sounds like I found out how they're making
money off me... How'd you figure out it was them?
@Mags: CT is one of those states you have to call in for (from what I hear). Just too much of a hassle. The
mailing was worth a quick perusal. Maybe I learned something, I never know... :?
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2012-05-05 21:37:23
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=681435" rel="nofollow">2006 Thumbprint Cellars
Cabernet Sauvignon Schneider Vineyard</a> - USA, California, Sonoma County, Dry Creek Valley (5/5/2012)
Not bad, but a little short on the midpalate. On the PnP, it was a mess, but cleaned up nicely with some air.
Not bad for an $18 Cali Cab, but one can do better for the $. (87 points)
25431 BuffaloLou
25432 louas
25433 A Frayed Knot
25434 ptaylor2112
2012-05-05 21:43:27 @BB - Be sure to deposit those WE mags in your nearest Abitibi ("Paper Retriever") paper recycling bin; at least
this way, they'll make a NPO some $! ;)
2012-05-05 21:48:29 Early dinner tonite. Slow weber roasted side of wild salmon w/AFK rub. The sweet elements really shined thru .
Paired with 2007 MUX Tinto Douro. $20 WL. Really good on pnp. Getting better and better in the decanter and
my glass.
Big improvement over last night's Mateus 8-) Ms. Louas just came by to say "hey, this is good!"
2012-05-05 22:26:04 @louas ~ Oh man! That brings back memories of my years in Washington...........fresh salmon on the grill (the
stuff I find here is total garbage)..........Alaskan Copper River Salmon is the absolute best............and oh the
Washington Steelhead trout is heavenly!.........man I'm hungry!
2012-05-06 01:01:50 @BuffaloLou, ham isn't sweet for me -- I tend to taste the salt. The wine pairing depends more on the glaze. A
ham with a mustard glaze is totally ready for Beaujolais, even a Pinot Noir (provided the flavor profile of the P/N
matches the saltiness of the ham). Reisling goes well, too. I prefer my Reislings dry.
Friday's ham had a glaze of honey, thyme, cider vinegar, brown sugar, and worcestershire sauce, among others.
(See link.) http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/glazed_baked_ham/ . The Beaujolais was light and matched just
fine. I decided to hold the Reisling (Eins Swei Dry) for leftovers on Sunday night, but I may have a Vouvray instead.
25439 BrunelloBob
2012-05-06 08:26:36 Copper River Salmon at The Water Grill in Las Angeles: The Finest piece of fish that I have Ever
had....mmmmmmmmm
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2012-05-06 09:04:14 @AFK & BB: I agree regarding Copper River Salmon being THE best, followed by other wild caught Alaskan
salmon. The farm raised Atlantic salmon are usually so dry I almost gag swallowing it.
If you are a Costco member, they start offering Copper River salmon in FL, usually in one of their weekend
Seafood Extravaganza Roadshow events in late May/early June. It may sell out on the first day of the event, so be
there early to stock up your freezer. Last year I believe I paid $10-$11/pound. For another month or so into July,
Costco has other wild caught Alaskan salmon.
25442 TonyO
25445 KaellaDave
2012-05-06 13:43:02 @Brooks: and not to mention what a soulful voice WH has.........utterly amazing
2012-05-06 18:30:26 Regarding salmon - if you ever see Yukon River Salmon - jump on it, you won't be sorry. Even BETTER than the
Copper River. Very hard to find because almost all of it goes to Japan. A tiny bit showed up here in Washington
last year - not cheap though, Yukon River King filets go for north of $35/lb. Just so happens I'm doing some
salmon for dinner tonight with some pasta salad and a nice Rose'.
25446 BrunelloBob
25447 BuffaloLou
2012-05-06 20:54:34 Is the rose' french?
2012-05-06 21:55:16 If it only had a longer finish... (TWSS)
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1177318" rel="nofollow">2008 Bodega Renacer
Malbec Punto Final Reserva</a> - Argentina, Mendoza (5/6/2012)
C: opaque purple-black
N: toast, licorice , intense black cherry and blackberry, hint of vanilla
P: mouth coating viscosity, intense black fruits, slightly tannic but not too much,
F: Short
A longer finish would have garnered more points, but this is a very tasty, fruit forward, rounded Malbec. Loved
the tannins. Good for the price, $14. (89 points)
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2012-05-06 22:21:36 Hmmm........Philly Offline Part Deux...........if I only had a rhyme for that.......
There once was a man from Stehekin,
Who couldn’t keep his eyes from a blinkin’
He used all his might,
To keep them shut tight.
But from lids, his eyes kept a peekin’.
He tried all the local home remedies,
And lost feeling in certain extremities.
Heard tale of a good nurse in Philly,
Whose methods were known to be silly.
So on bus he chased after his falacies, hoping to be rid of his maladies.
He arrived at the restaurant Sonata,
And heard what he thought a cantata.
He entered that space,
For a nurse soon to place.
But found drinkin’ …..a helluva a lotta!
A man with no shoes and dark glasses,
And a lady who’d been waiting in Manassas,
Filled his belly with good wine,
And showed him a great time.
But soon they’d all fallin’ down on their asses!
25449 NY Pete
25452 mr21cbs
A woman named Wine Baby Wine
h playoff hockey. l
i
2012-05-07 00:30:32 I love
2012-05-07 08:56:27 NY Pete, fair is fair. You #$^&$% Devils handled the Flyers pretty well. 1 or 2 games and we are done.
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2012-05-07 10:38:04 @AFK Very nice!
@ALL
The Philly Offline is approaching fast. It would be wonderful to meet many of you!
Make a weekend trip out of it.
25455 BuffaloLou
25456 louas
25457 louas
25458 mr21cbs
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25463
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john o'
joe g
mr21cbs
mr21cbs
joe g
winex
Jim
2012-05-07 23:27:30 Pretty quite around these parts...
Watched "The Change-Up" tonight. Haven't laughed that much in a while. Funny movie!
2012-05-07 23:51:16 Enjoyed a bottle of '04 Ondarre tonight. That is one hell of a good wine for $11.50!!!!!!!!!!!!
2012-05-08 00:04:22 Did I forget to mention that the Rangers won tonight in rather dramatic fashion??????
Can the Flyers rally to win two straight?
Can you say Coyotes?
2012-05-08 08:59:37 @louas, that was an impressive finish for the Rangers. Bad penalty at the end of the game cost the Caps. Must be
totally deflating to be 6.6 seconds away from victory and fail in such dramatic fashion.
Hopefully the Flyers can prolong this agony of the playoff run, but with the other teams having such solid
defenses and goalies, we have no shot.
2012-05-08 13:26:39
2012-05-08 14:45:15
2012-05-08 15:14:54
2012-05-08 15:52:52
2012-05-08 16:49:58
2012-05-08 17:30:23
2006 Reignac on Last Bottle for $15. Free ship on 6. parker 91.
nice brunello deal on cindy
Thank you, Joe G, in for a few.
Anyone has any thoughts on the WL banner deal for Barolo?
michael, am i missing something or have they not said what the barolo offer was yet?
@louas- every time I crack a btl of the '04 Ondarre I say the same thing. I popped one last weekend for a couple
of friends & they were sure I had opened something that was a bit pricey. When I told them the cost they
were floored & wanted to get it.
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2012-05-08 17:41:14 @Cbs: you guys need to buy a goalie in the off season. If Rangers and Coyotes end up in the finals I will be
heading up the road for at least one game. Pretty tempting to go see a Phoenix-LA battle of the hot goaltenders
as well.
I saw my first game at the old Madison Sq. Garden (on 47th st, I think) when there were six teams and no one,
not even the goalies wore masks. They kept their sticks down. Gump Worsely was the Rangers goalie for that
game and Terry Sawchuck was in goal for the red wings. Even as a young boy I recognized that no one messed
with Gordie Howe.
And now Phoenix v. LA ; quite the evolution
2012-05-08 18:04:37 Joe G, the banner only says: "On Thursday, May 10th, Wine Library will bring you our deal of the week. A 90 Point
rated vintage Barolo with a savings of 40% off the suggested release price! This outstanding effort is from the
2004 vintage and Barolo lovers in particular will love the fact that this will be an offer you can enjoy now!
Readers of Robert Parker's the Wine Advocate might recognize this Barolo as the Advocate scored the wine 90
Points when it was first reviewed back in 2008. Antonio Galloni issued high praise for this small producer and
noted that this producer "is a terrific source for traditionally-made Barolos that remain exceptionally well-priced"
Currently, the best price online we could find for this wine is $49.99. The Release Price is $45.00. Our price - just
$26.98. That's a savings of 40%!"
~
Louas, we bought a goalie! We are now chained to Bryzgalov for 9 years with his $51 million deal. He seem to
stop some stuff, but not at the playoff level. We are missing a couple of defensemen, but who doesn't this time
of season. Your story is before my time remembering hockey or being in the states to experience the NHL, still
fascinating. Thanks for sharing!
25469 joe g
25470 mr21cbs
2012-05-08 18:04:57 louas... they bought a goalie last offseason. a very expensive one at that
2012-05-08 18:20:41 winex, you brought up an interesting question: do you tell your friends how much a bottle costs? Whether they
like it or not it will produce different reaction, but if you open an $11.50 that drinks much pricier it still may
appear "cheap". If I get something more expensive, although I am not a big spender and rarely open a $50+
bottle of wine, I don't appreciate when somebody just gulps it without much appreciation. You get my drift
25472 louas
2012-05-08 20:26:36 OOps, my bad re: Flyers goalie. Perhaps he will enjoy a renaissance season next year.
Totally agree on friends and the price of the wine, especially when you open a prized bottle to share and it is
treated like a bota box.
2012-05-08 21:48:41 Courtesy of Sir Louas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf8ZQcGbRwE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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2012-05-08 22:07:35 Attention Flyers fans: You are cordially invited to jump on the Rangers' Bandwagon as we need all the help we
can get to oust the Capitals.
This will allow to postpone some hand wringing over the Phillies and will act as a diversion between Sixers games.
25475 BrunelloBob
2012-05-08 22:10:37 I tell my friends how much the bottle costs (sometimes), so that I can brag about how much of a discount I got on
it. :)
2012-05-08 22:48:37 @BLou: I've been away from the Hills and just catching up on the posts, so I just read your comment about your
family reunion in the Poconos. Bummer, you were in the backyard of Flyerfan, Josie and I. I wish you would had
free time and could have contacted us. The Inn at Pocono Manor is about 30 minutes from Beth and maybe 45
from Josie and I. If you travel this way again let us know, would love to finally meet you in person.
25476 Pats-Pwr
Speaking of Josie, I was able to catch up with her for a couple of hours and pick up my half case of Kaella Rose'
while she was working in her Garden on Saturday. It was a fantastic afternoon to sit and talk in her beautiful
garden while sipping a cool Chardonnay. She did say that she felt bad that she simply dropped into the Hills,
posted a single message but didn't respond to the comments you all left for her. She is very busy this time of
year. I live 5 minutes away and it took us nearly a month to meet up and exchange the Kaella. She is planning to
attend the Philly Offline #2 but won't be able to confirm until just prior to the event. She is also planning her
Garden Party III and she has a tentative date that she will share once plans firm up. The upgrades to her kitchen
are real nice and will greatly improve the flow between the house and the garden for this year's party.
25477 joe g
@AFK: I received your rib rub shortly after returning from Las Vegas and I have to say that it smells wonderful. I
can not wait to actually try it out. Thanks again for sending the samples. I also forwarded Josie the picture of the
2012-05-08 23:05:31 cbs... as far as the barolo banner offer........ it seems, on this board, that unless galloni rates a barolo it has no
merit. so in this case a 90 point galloni score at this price from this vintage should equal a great deal... no?
25478 BuffaloLou
2012-05-09 00:05:19 @Pats-Pwr - Yeah, I knew I would be close to many inmates, but our schedule was tight. I have family in the
Philly area and hopefully will get back there soon. It would be nice to meet with you all.
25479 David T
2012-05-09 01:05:16 *sigh* My netbook had been dying a slow death the past few weeks and finally went to meet its maker tonight.
Any suggestions as far as replacements? I had an Asus EEE PC which served me well, I've been considering a
tablet but leaning towards another netbook- something primarily for web surfing & a bit of word
processing/PowerPoint/picture storage in the <$500 range. Unfortunately no matter what I get it will eat into
the upcoming months' wine budgets especially since all of the home repairs/upgrades we've been
working on recently have all been pricier than their estimates as well :( At least it's an excuse to drink
down rather than add to the existing cellar inventory.
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2012-05-09 08:34:47 DavidT take a look at these:
http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=772&name=Netbooks&Tpk=netbook&Order=RA
TING
I buy a lot of hardware from Newegg, and their prices are pretty good. Apple is coming out with MacBook Air
around $700 this summer. It is more than you want but it is a stellar piece of hardware. There are also
Chromebooks: http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/#utm_campaign=en&utm_source=en-ha-na-usbkws&utm_medium=ha
These are for web browsing only, word processing, etc. is possible with the use of Google Docs, which is pretty
much all you need.
I use iPad for pretty much everything you need with a few apps (QuickOffice for word processing, powerpoint,
etc.)
2012-05-09 09:12:05 This is an interesting post: http://www.decanter.com/bordeaux-2011/en-primeur-coverage/529953/bordeaux2011-primeurs-offers-being-met-with-stoney-silence-merchants-report
Any comments from our Bordeaux guy Vinny?
25485 johnr
2012-05-09 09:34:48 @JoeGallo.....I don't think that your statement regarding the absolute need for a Galloni score rates a buy over a
no buy. I believe that it is a statement more about transparentancy. As far as the 1st barolo deal, there was NO
TN or literature provided outside that of the Wine Lib and the winery. Far from me to suggest that WineLib
would over(hype) a wine, I will suggest that I will at least look at this 90pt barolo more than the 1st barolo. As so
far as the first barolo, everyone seemed to be in agreement that $50 was a bit steep for a barolo with Zero
pedigree. The market spoke. I find your comment a bit distasteful.
25486 joe g
2012-05-09 10:14:16 john r... if i wanted my full name out there i would have used it is my screen name.
cannot say that the last barolo deal did not have a pedigree because it had no critic score.. pedigree has more to
do with producer, vintage, track record, etc.. this wine has pedigree
25487 johnr
i am sorry you find my comment distasteful. the irony is i was using your criteria and logic to formulate that
comment
2012-05-09 11:30:55 @joeg......You are correct, that barolo was from an overhyped vintage, unknown producer and no single vineyard
designation. So, therefore it has no pedigree. Therefore your comment has more to do with cutting individuals
here, than ironic or laconic logic. Why must this nonsense continue?
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2012-05-09 11:48:44 john... you are correct this was an overhyped vintage, yet you referred to the 2000 vintage as 'special' in your
post about it?
this producer may not be known to you, but i have had dozens of spectacular wines from them..they are one of
the better values in the langhe. the riserva that was offered is not a specific vineyard designation because they
only took select bunches from each vineyard...
25489 mr21cbs
25490 vinmoet
25491 Brunellobob
25492 NY Pete
25493 vinmoet
25494 Brunellobob
25495 NY Pete
25496 Brunellobob
25497 Johnr
25498 Shaftoe
25499 Brunellobob
i was answering a question that cbs asked (sorry i did now) and not trying to 'cut you'..
2012-05-09 11:50:58 Joe G, I guess it was unfair on my part to ask your opinion without the wine being revealed. I am not following
Galloni that closely and would prefer an opinion of the forum peers over AG's. When we know the wine if you
would care to share your opinion, please do so. Thanks.
~
JohnR, I did not take Joe's response with the same sensitivity as you did, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Same
goes for you. Please share your thoughts on the Barolo as I am looking for Barolo in that price range. Thanks.
2012-05-09 12:03:59 Hey, I'm a fish out of water once I'm out of Bordeaux. I'd love as much input from you guys as possible. Thanks
for taking the time to help the rest of us.
2012-05-09 12:21:35 Anyone ever do a search on the WLTV boards for "gallo" and see how many times "joe gallo" comes up?
Just curious.
:roll:
2012-05-09 12:35:24 JR stirring the pot yet again ... wuwt
2012-05-09 12:38:52 Do we have any guesses as to what the wine will be?
2012-05-09 12:39:23 Saint Peter speaks...
(Or: Pot, Kettle, Black)
2012-05-09 12:44:10 like you BobbyB, I'm far from being a saint.
2012-05-09 12:55:06 Maybe, but I don't jump around the internet kibitzing on every wine board that I can find.
2012-05-09 12:56:06 Then please explain your comment:"on this board"?
Pete: hey buddy, just keeping everyone honest. I don't recall anyone going over to the forums and causing
problems recently. And your the last person to talk bout stiring the pot
2012-05-09 13:14:19 Regarding tomorrow's Barolo offer, It has been speculated by one Julius on the WL boards that the wine in
question may be the 2004 Guido Porro Barolo Vigna Santa Caterina
2012-05-09 13:16:56 I may buy a bottle just because it has "Guido" on the label... :lol:
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2012-05-09 13:19:16 john, i was refering to the fact that this barolo offer has a galloni score. i was using your words that baroli
without galloni scores are questionable.. i was using that point to demonstrate that this should be a more
relevant offer... i dont believe that is a reason for you to have distaste.. but if it was then i apologize, but we are
also even then as i found your comments about the people who bought the last barolo offer to be "idiot
followers", as you said, distasteful
2012-05-09 13:35:50 yet again another example of pot being stirred for no reason. Them vs Us is still alive...
2012-05-09 13:42:59 meh ... how can meh be a duplicate comment?
2012-05-09 13:43:33 :)
2012-05-09 13:44:07 LETS GO DEVILS!
2012-05-09 13:46:38 Seems like a good guess...this also has WS90
https://winelibrary.com/wines/42451-04-guido-porro-barolo-santa-caterina
2012-05-09 13:49:04 really john???? ok, i get it now... you can say anything you want, but if anyone brings it up then it is an attack.. i
get it. you win.... good thing you are here to keep it honest... dont forget to add to the wine discussion as well
2012-05-09 16:05:48 As the kommander reads through the previous posts regarding the baroli posted by one of the hills greatest
assets
LT jg JG, the kommander is mystified as to where cadet john r can find anything offensive. The kommander would
also like to point out that LT jg has always been supportive of one of our own who has taken much flak. Cadet JR
needs to take the hostility down a notch. The same must be said of nco pete and brevet brunello. The
kommander among others appreciates the kalming nature of the hills and wishes the above mentioned
desperados will fall in line with the program.
kaos out
2012-05-09 16:36:27 @Mr. Kaos....very reasonable and sensible commentary. I agree with you regarding tone around here, but that is
my point with JoeG et al. They always come here with smart comments and tongue and cheek remarks. I find it
interesting that he does not make those remarks in Forums, where this discussion was located. Why end his
statement with a vailed remark at us?
2012-05-09 16:58:08 Kaos now just WTF did I say that was hostile. I wish you and all residents of the hills, peace.
2012-05-09 17:44:31 Perhaps the Kommander should be offering a similar scolding to Mr. Joe. While his knowledge is considerable, his
tone is not always appreciated by Brigadier Brunello and some others.
2012-05-09 17:59:14 The kommander was perhaps to quick to jump on private pete this time. old transgressions are hard to bury. The
kommander does accept the privates offer of peace. The kommander also respectfully requests that junior
officer JR reread the last line from LT jg JG again, if their was any hostility in that sentence it was directed at you
as opposed to the happy warriors here in the hills. The kommander os hoping that this is all behind us now.
kaos out
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2012-05-09 18:06:54 The kommander respectfully points out to bombardier bob that LT jg JG has always been an informative friend to
many of the posters here in the hills. It was LT jg JG who befriended Brigadier B lou when he was taking flak from
many of the forum flyboys. We as a community should not forget this.
kaos out
25514 NY Pete
2012-05-09 18:40:16 Kaos, your attitude towards the forum could lead to a renewal of urban warfare. Please do your part to keep the
peace.
2012-05-09 19:40:16 I am hoping the Barolo offer is from a maker I have a little experience with... I do use AG Italian wine reviews as
important information to help me decide to "take a chance"/experiment when its something i have not tasted
myself, or not from a maker i am otherwise familiar with. After extensive "experimentation" and correlation of
results, i have found significantly positive correlation of AG's palate and mine... therefore absent of other
information or direct experience, his score or comments become important to me.
25515 BaroloDude
This is not a random "if a famous critic hasn't rated it, i don't want it" attitude. For 50 bucks i am not willing to go
blind into a Barolo... and AG reviews shed relevant light for me personally. i would not suggest a rule for others
though like that unless they have also "put in the work" to determine correlation positive or negative with his
Barolo reviews. It just works for me when all other forms of opinion or personal experience are lacking. There
is too much variance from maker to maker and subregion to subregion etc...,personal disappointment is very
possible even with Baroli ;-) For sub30bucks, I might take a risk regardless for one bottle on the upcoming
offer.. and consider it a learning experience if less than thrilled. Not so sure why this approach is worthy of
contempt or snide comments, but "WHATEVER". I love you all anyway.
I don't know what piece of furniture I will have to store it under or which closet still has any room to stuff it in.
THAT is the real problem...
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2012-05-09 22:05:44 barolo dude.... regarding critics discussions... i have bought far more worse wines strictly that got good critics
scores than i have by just using good judgement based on the facts at hand...
john.. obviously you are not using the search function on me as some are because if you were you would know
that i am the same on the forums as i am here... i speak it how it is, have a mad sense of humor, and if i see
something being said that i think may be incorrect i chime in. i am constantly putting myself in the crosshairs
more than anyone on there for having differing opinions on aging, food pairings, decanting, etc.... i was trying to
use your point of critics scores to show that this upcoming deal in theory is better than the last one.. sorry that
you cannot accept that.. you can make me be the bad guy, i am used to that, just please dont do it when i am
using the words that were yours to begin with... i assure you that i think the 'us vs them' thing is the stupidest
thing i have ever heard... let it go and talk about wine
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25518 BuffaloLou
25519 David T
25520 David T
25521 David T
25522 TonyO
25523 A Frayed Knot
25524 louas
25525 TonyO
2012-05-09 22:17:56 times like this i wish moet would chime in... we have had several epic disagreements about subjects yet we
always manage to do it in a adult, respectful manner with mutual respect... it is good wine discussion and keeps
boards like this pertinent and educational...
2012-05-09 22:25:18 Hoping to channel Brooks... Popping a Havens Syrah '06. After popping one a week or two ago per David Ts rec, I
thought another would hit the spot tonight.
2012-05-09 22:40:58 @BLou/Brooks I opened a CH Lot 179 (07 Havens Black & Blue) tonight myself. Good, but I liked the 06
Syrah better.
2012-05-09 22:55:22 +1 to much of what joe wrote at both 10:05 and 10:17
2012-05-09 22:56:05 AND just for old times sake.......... HATTRICK!!
2012-05-09 23:10:05 as our UPS driver (or Doug Heffernan as our 7 year old calls him) has changed his route and now shows up when
no one is home, I learned that I can put the UPS address as my "ship to" address and pick up there (which for me
is convenient as the UPS is only about 5 minutes away).................
2012-05-09 23:26:55 Mary.........had a little lamb.......and Brooks plays a mean sax.. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7moBSaWkH8
2012-05-09 23:30:31 The bad: Rangers lose
The good: 07 Amavi Cabernet. I got some of this after a wine library episode. Drinking really well right now.
The ugly: all the petty personal crap being spewed this afternoon and evening.
2012-05-09 23:38:36 I stop by here to escape the ^&% storm on Facebook and I see nonsensical bickering here..........again, IT IS
GRAPE JUICE ! Save the serious approach for ordeals that require it...............Wine and spirits are supposed to be
enjoyable..............if you disagree, raise a glass and get over it (or go behind the dumpster and beat the living
%^&$ out of each other...............)
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2012-05-09 23:38:38 I stop by here to escape the ^&% storm on Facebook and I see nonsensical bickering here..........again, IT IS
GRAPE JUICE ! Save the serious approach for ordeals that require it...............Wine and spirits are supposed to be
enjoyable..............if you disagree, raise a glass and get over it (or go behind the dumpster and beat the living
%^&$ out of each other...............)
2012-05-09 23:39:42 same post twice..........is that a double play ????
2012-05-10 00:12:19 @louas - the 07 Amavi Cab rocks!
@AFK - nice find!! Although I am partial to SRVs cover:
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25532 NaH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxkFYGIEtbY&feature=related
2012-05-10 01:53:31 Mrs and I killed the bottle of Havens Syrah. Relaxin' in a bluesy mood... "There's a red house over yonder baby...
"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMQPb1f-Ng&feature=related
2012-05-10 05:15:43 @TonyO
I received a pamphlet in mail for summer family vacations at SMUGGLER"S NOTCH in Vermont. How is this place?
25533 Brooks
2012-05-10 05:33:38 I wanted to address some of the recent posts in no specific order
play nice
only if the script required it
you crack you up
I am seeing doubles too, maybe we should both put down the bottle
that is not correct
you are an amazing slouch
Barolo Barolo Barolo
I think he would be a better ensign than a vice admiral
Lighten up Francis
Dude Trattoria 4 Leoni Firenze Italia
Havens just happens
I can't attend family obligations............
walkin it home
hold fast to that which is good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSZxdv0-3h4&feature=related
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2012-05-10 06:29:15 Perhaps if "moet would chime in", he would give us some pointers on how to have these conversations without
someone taking offense. For all his useful, educational posting, Moet always manages to make his point without
someone getting his panties in a bunch. Again, it's a matter of tone.
That's it, I'm done.
Peace.
25535 David T
2012-05-10 07:58:00 I know we've all seen his notes on Cellartracker and I'm sure we all can relate to what Richard Jennings writes
here... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-jennings/wine-science_b_1501765.html
25536 mr21cbs
2012-05-10 08:56:18 So for binary minded individuals like me - we agree that this is a fair, respectable, and fun forum for all. And as a
smart man said on page 1388, I love you all!
P.S. I think there is too much testosterone around here, must be the Hockey and Basketball playoff time
25537 mr21cbs
2012-05-10 08:58:29 Louas, Luddite - nothing beats a game 7!!!
25538 mr21cbs
P.S. Especially when I am completely impartial to the outcome. :twisted:
2012-05-10 09:00:44 Oh what the hell... Phillies can't get out of 7,8 or 9th inning. Make the Mats and Nationals look invincible. Flyers
are done! Go Sixers!
25539 vinmoet
~HATTRICK~
2012-05-10 10:15:28 Hmmmm. How to voice my thoughts yet not get sucked into anything. Here goes (wish me luck). You like Siskel,
I like Ebert. We can agree to disagree (even when we both really know that Ebert is right).
Hows that for a comment that hopefully dodges a bullet? I guess we'll find out.
You know I'm a big Jancis Robinson fan. And, you know that I love a book by Alice Feiring called "The Battle for
Wine and Love or How I saved the World from Parkerization." A book that I agree with in part, disagree with
quite a bit, and chuckled through and enjoyed enough to recommend it.
So, what if Jancis interviewed Alice, in London, about her passion for "natural wines"? Wine geek nirvana?
Well, thanks to the magic of the internet...
http://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/a201105183.html
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2012-05-10 10:33:30 moet. ever eloquent! here's to hoping that we can agree to a vintage of pavie that we can both enjoy together
someday! lol
2012-05-10 10:41:50 Two sides to one story? Jancis being interviewed by Alice? Does it get any better?
25542 joe g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xlO8sbVpYo&feature=player_embedded
2012-05-10 11:08:09 i'm buying in the dark. in for 2 of the noon barolo offer. worst case scenario i make vitello brassere en barolo
25543 AdamEmpire
2012-05-10 11:23:42 Limited Ship4Free today, wanted to give you folks the heads up http://www.empirewine.com/4free/ . Thanks!
2012-05-10 13:23:40 @all Please try and be respectful here. We have managed to peacefully coexist by trying not to push each other's
buttons and I for one would like to see that continue. Wow, serious testosterone overload lately! ;-)
@joeg You are the man! WBW and I are also in for 2 ea on today's Barolo offer. Then we're going to take our
credit cards and make them into ice cubes for the next few months. Drink more fight less will be my new motto!
@mr21cbs I watched Cliff pitch a few innings last night, but after the previous night watching our teams go 0-3,
the Flyers get eliminated and the Phillies fall even further down the rabbit hole, I needed a 2 hour massage to get
all the stress knots out of my back! It's going to be a long season if we don't get us some relief pitching!
@NYP Still won't say "Go Devils", but the better team won our series.
Working at home and drinking half a glass of 2004 Ondarre Reserva Rioja. Still the best QPR ever, and sure to reappear during next week's Cheapskate Wednesday on WTSO.
Peace out
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2012-05-10 13:33:21 @WiM
How does it compare to the Mayor reserva?
2012-05-10 13:35:50 Bad wallet day
The Empire Super tuscan. Adds to my 2006 for a mini vertical.
The Wine Library Barolo, worth a shot.
Was ready to pass on the $5 Chard from Last Bottle (even though I've had good fortune with Chris Ringland
wines) when my brother offerred to split a case.
One step fwd (consumption, and 3 steps back (purchases).
2012-05-10 13:43:50 @john o' I do like the Mayor reserva too and I've picked up both multiple times. That's also a great deal for $20,
but this is a good basic everyday cellar defender for $11.49 delivered. It was open from last night. Maybe I should
pop a Mayor later and do a comparison...
Has anyone out there compared the two head to head?
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2012-05-10 13:54:38 todays cindy offer has me thinking on something i see often.
it seems to have everything going for it.. some age, big discount, low free shipping count, good critics scores, and
even good CT scores... the consensus choice tho seems to not purchase due to questionable vintage..
on the other hand i have seen countless times where people will pass on a wine from a good (or great) vintage
solely based on lower critics scores...
it seems that we side with a poor vintage over good reviews but will abandon better vintages with lesser
reviews... why do we disregard positive things said about a particular wine based upon a vintage chart that may
not have even affected this particular area as harsh as it had others in the region? wouldnt we use the same
logic and disregard some negative thoughts about a wine in favor of a better growing conditions?
if this particular burgundy had the exact same price, scores, etc.. but was from whatever vintage you thought to
be more favorable would you buy it? if your answer to that question is yes, then i would think you should still
buy it even from this vintage
25549 joe g
2012-05-10 13:57:35 WIM... i the first few times i had the mayor i actually liked the cheaper bottle a touch more... however the last
bottle of the mayor i had was definitley a little better that the regualr reserva, tho maybe not worth paying
double for it
2012-05-10 14:10:42 @ joe g Sounds like a tasting comparison is in order since I've only got an hour left to work today!
25551 vinmoet
2012-05-10 14:14:07 I've liked both. Just prefer the Reserva 'cause of the price. Aged quality at that price point. Love it.
Joe, whenst we split a bottle of Pavie (and destiny requires it, my friend), I am thinking that it has to be the 97
point Parker 2003 which Jancis hated. http://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/winenews0422.html
Just a fun piece of wine geek history...we'll either finally decide it one way or another.
25552 joe g
2012-05-10 14:16:55 lol... sadly moet, we had the 03 pavie recently thanks to NaH's generosity and while i was happy to try it i dont
think i have any need to revisit in the future.. i think jancis won that round
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2012-05-10 15:59:43 Hahaha.
I have 3 bottles left of the 2003 Pavie and I don't want to revisit them!!
2012-05-10 16:54:36 Bought 2 bottles of the Barolo.
~
Joe G, who is invited to try the vitello brassere en barolo?
~
I have a few bottles of the Rocca di Frassinello Le Sughere Maremma Toscana IGT. How is the Ship4Free offer
from Empire similar or different?
2012-05-10 16:55:45 @NAH: the nicest (and yes, priciest....) place is the Stowe Mountain Lodge ( I am trying to work a deal with them
to provide coffee for their guests and was there earlier thsi week, an incredible property)...Smuggler's Notch gets
great reviews from family vacationers (also nice and maybe more family focused), there is also the Trapp Family
Lodge (very scenic and great for those that like to hike)....all three are located in the Stowe area and a short drive
to great restaurants and attractions (and we are about 40 minutes away). If you have specific questions, pop me
an email and I will see what info I can provide !
25556 TonyO
2012-05-10 16:57:14 The Broadway tour of Beauty and the Beast tonight in Burlington...........our 7 year old daughter is gonna love it !
25557 joe g
2012-05-10 17:14:27 cbs... anyone willing to make the trip gets the food, and some wonderful wine as well!
25559 john o'
25560 jpakma
i believe the empire offer is the bigger brother to the le sughere
2012-05-10 17:43:09 @mr21cbs
I don't know how they differ stylistically. i do know that the one on offer has a higher SRP.
2012-05-10 18:39:17 @all it's nice to see the Hills restored to order today.
@WIM I have really enjoyed the Riserva. I think I have one bottle left along with a bottle of the Mayor it would
be fun to do the side-by-side tonight. @TonyO I hope you enjoy the show. I took my kids to Lion King several
years ago and they loved it.
For those of you who enjoy a big Cali-cab I tasted the 2009 Caymus this week and found it delightful. As for the
WL offer I am going to sit it out not because of the scores or vintage but because I feel I need to be more
selective in my buying habits and less impulsive. @joe g and @vinmoet I truly enjoy your insights. Thanks!
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2012-05-10 21:57:17 @Brooks - Rock on!
@Vinny - Well said my good man.
@adam - I love it when you stop by! (Although my credit card is not happy... )
@WiM - Careful, popping a reserva and a Mayor in the same day, solo... Are you still vertical? (Note: I like the
Mayor more, but agree with Joe, may not be worth 2X the price.)
25562 louas
@joe g - schedule is starting to slow down a bit. Will be in touch with you and Landshark...
2012-05-10 22:15:11 @cbs: +1 re game 7's The heart says Rangers, the gut says Crapitals, the brain afraid to be tie-breaker.
+1 on the Ondarre. 11.98 everyday at WL. Fairly EZ to get a free ship (usually).
@AFK: Tonight your rub enhanced some grilled chicken breasts which received the coveted thumbs up from Ms.
Louas! Paired with '10 Kim Crawford SB which is what it is which is a consistantly solid wine for 12 bucks.
How 'bout them Sixers!!!!!!!!!!
25564 BuffaloLou
25565 jpakma
2012-05-10 23:12:19 Ugh... Spam filter got me...
2012-05-10 23:13:32 Thanks to @WiM I decided to do the side-by-side tasting of the Ondarre Reserva and Mayor. The pours were
blind and here's a quick synopsis:
Color: advantage Mayor (considerably darker in color at the core) although not too important to me
Nose: advantage Reserva (the Mayor was somewhat muted, however opened up later in the night - still the
Reserva was better)
Taste: advantage Mayor (both wines were very good, however, the balance in the Mayor was better; the Reserva
was more acidic/astringent while the Mayor had good acid but not dominant to other elements)
Overall - both wines show extremely well. If you like Rioja you won't be disappointed. I paid $25 for the Mayor
and $12 for the Reserva. I realize price doesn't factor into everyone's decision but at 2x the cost I don't see 2x the
quality in the Mayor over the Reserva bottling. Mayor 90+ / Reserva 88+ (at 1/2 the cost of the Mayor the
Reserva is an outstanding bottle of wine).
Mayor 90-91
Reserva 88-89
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2012-05-10 23:32:18 Old Friend... acoustic... Warren and Derek... Seven minutes of bliss!
25567 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UauECrCIYl8
2012-05-10 23:58:22 Why is it the music from our high school years never grows old, yet we do?
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2012-05-11 00:49:55 @jpakma: Thank you. great review.
Correction to earlier post: 2011 Kim Crawford SB.
2012-05-11 06:58:39 @jpakma Thanks for doing that and posting your notes. To be fair, the Reserva was on Day 2, and the Mayor was
a pnp. I'll need to have a glass of the Mayor today to make a fair comparison, but I still really like the Reserva
better. While you are correct and the Mayor did have some advantages, the Reserva is such a perfect cellar
defender that it's hard to spend twice as much money for a not corresponding increase in quality.
@BLou no, I did not consume both bottles in their entirety alone. I finished the Reserva from the day before and
started the Mayor. However, I did drink about 3 glasses versus my usual 1-2 and therefore went to bed fairly
early as a result after consuming mass quantities of water.
@louas Yes, thank goodness the Sixers won and are giving us something to be happy about for a while since the
Flyers and Phillies aren't. Sorry to say I'm pulling for the Caps now since I live in NoVA and the neighbors and I
always support each other's teams when we're out of it.
@mr21cbs The Ship4Free offer is the 2008 and recently WL had the 2006 for $26.73 ea as one of their Big Banner
Deals. I'm tempted, but just bought the Barolo yesterday.
25570 winex
2012-05-11 08:32:20 @mr21cbs - To answer your post from May 8 @6:20pm. I almost never discuss the price of a bottle with my
friends. In this instance I was with a couple of friends who are vino lovers like myself. So it seemed appropriate to
let them know it was not an $$$ bottle. The one guy is one of those who thinks expensive means better. I have
explained many times how inacurate that statement is. So I was sort of proving a point with him. Weak I know,
but he did cave into the fact that many outstanding wines are less then $15/btl.
He sends me msg all the time pumping some great deal ex: reg $75 now only $29.99 hurry cause this won't last. I
usually reply, "well if they could have sold it for $75, they would have". This doesn't make it a good wine or a bad
one, it is simply an inventory issue & if it sounds like a wine you will like then buy it. But don't just buy it
because you think you are getting a $75 wine for $30.
2012-05-11 09:22:21 I have now gone to checking CellarTracker reviews before making any purchasing decisions, and looking to see if
any of my buddies on there have had it. I read the descriptions not the rating to see if it sounds like something I
might like. Other than Galloni, there's really no other critic who seems to have a palate that aligns with mine.
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2012-05-11 10:55:20 joeg and NaH: I'm curious about the '03 Pavie. Parker wasn't the only one to like it:
WS 96 (7/2006): "Dark purple. Shows intense aromas of raisin, coffee and treacle tart. Very, very ripe. Fullbodied, superrich and velvety. This is so layered and powerful. Blockbuster. Best after 2008. 7,500 cases made."
IWC 92+ (6/2006): "Impressive full medium ruby color. Quite locked up on the nose following the February
bottling; hinted at currant, smoked meat and roasted nuts as it opened in the glass. Extremely powerful but a bit
chunky today, conveying an impression of extraordinary solidity. One senses but does not taste the minerals and
primary berry fruit. But this painfully closed wine already offers uncanny sweetness. The major mouthful of
tannins calls for at least six to eight years of cellaring. A classic extreme 2003 that is currently in a sullen stage.
This is sure to controversial-at least until it begins to recover from the bottling. My score may prove to be
conservative, but today it's the dried fruit character that dominates."
Do you have any tasting notes?
25574 BrunelloBob
2012-05-11 20:26:10 Working on a 2006 Mas Doix Priorat Salanques, courtesy of the crew at Empire. Glad I'm holding 3 more:
LONG red fruit, well integrated tannin, nicely balanced acidity. Maybe a touch of cedar. A Really nice wine. May
keep, but won't get better. Good QPR at the Empire Ship4 price. 90pts. If I were a more reasonable human being,
I might give it 91 pts.
x
Thanks Adam
25575 NaH
2012-05-11 20:44:19 Sorry Vinny, I didn't take notes. From what I remember of the 2 bottles I've tried, they weren't typical Brdx. Lot
of heat on the back end- the fruit/oak component was disjointed.
I'll make you a promise...
25577 louas
25578 joe g
Visit Philly and I'll pop a bottle with you...along with some other well aged Brdx.
2012-05-11 21:31:42 Just walked in after a fairly stressful Friday and waiting for me was a bottle of decanted 2005 Lamborghini
Campoleopne. 50-50 Sangiovese -Merlot blend from Umbria. Smooth as silk and de-damn-licious. Happy
Mother's Day to all!
2012-05-11 22:18:28 moet... the wine never came together and was out of balance
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2012-05-12 07:42:55 So while everyone else is whining about whether to buy 09 or 10 or both and maybe just starting to think about
2011 futures, I'm out there scrappin' and workin' for you worrying about the 2012 vintage. What the heck does
this early spring/lack of winter mean? Well, I don't know. But, I ran across this and I think its pretty cool (and
yes, I am linking you to the English version):
http://www.pichon-lalande.com/en/winter
2012-05-12 13:56:09 I forgot to add that the Les Chanceliers Vouvray is best served on the cool side, which gives the wine a really nice
bite on the back end.
@jpakma - it is available at 21st Amendment; they've got 20 or so locations in the Indy area.
And now, it's back to outdoor weeding. And sneezing.
The Great Flydidni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9xKU8eYCFk&feature=relmfu
Thought I'd find a little Ranger Love here this Morning!
Resalte 2004 Ribera Del Duero, 100% Tempranillo with poblano stuffed chicken breasts last night.
This wine was a home run loved by all. wish I had a lot more .. $24 WTSO. Recommended.
Happy Mother's Day to all ! Without you, there is no us !
ranger love??? insert puking emoticom here.
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2012-05-13 01:47:30
25587 louas
2012-05-13 10:47:38
25588 TonyO
25589 NY Pete
2012-05-13 11:04:31
2012-05-13 11:51:02
25591 mr21cbs
25592 jpakma
LETS GO DEVILS!
2012-05-13 14:12:03 Happy mothers day!
2012-05-13 14:30:57 @ptaylor I will seek a bottle out this week and report back. @louas the Resalte is a great wine. Hope everyone
has a Happy Mothers Day. Going to pop a bottle of the Arnot-Roberts Rosé this afternoon.
25594 BuffaloLou
2012-05-13 20:39:35 Happy Mother's Day to all the mom's out there!
Just got back this morning from a weekend campout at Letchworth State Park (below Rochester, NY) with the
Scouts. Great weekend filled with hiking, white water rafting, games (can jam, ultimate frisbee, ultimate football,
football) good food (including a taco cook-off between the boys) and some glorious weather!
25595 David T
2012-05-13 21:09:54 @BLou I've been wanting to visit Letchworth for several years ever since I saw pictures MrsDT took when
camping there with friends. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance yet. I love waterfalls & it looks like there
are some good ones there.
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2012-05-14 12:29:56 @VinMoet
Bought the 2005 Reignac a while back on your reco. At 9 bottles, I cleaned them out.
Had the first one shortly after receiving it and thought it was OK. Popped and poured and it was a little harsh.
Yesterday, I ran through an aerator and decanted for 2 hours. A different wine. Marvelous nose.
keep those tips coming!
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2012-05-14 12:53:17 john 'o: Glad you liked it. While its a wine intended to drink young, its still a fairly tannic vintage and one where
its best drinking window could be in another few years. These can really change their moods and go in and out
of drinking windows. Its worth the work to coax them out when they need it. Happy to hear that your efforts
paid off. I have some 3 liter versions of these that I'll save for parties down the road but I probably won't touch
them for another 10 years at least.
2012-05-14 18:38:16 @DT - I'll be posting some pix of our trip on FB. The falls are beautiful!
2012-05-15 03:24:59 @Vinny: Moody wines!? I've had many of those. 10 more years? You've got to be kidding!
Just had to do a drive by.
I hope you folks are doing good.
2012-05-15 14:20:47 Is this thing on?
2012-05-15 15:58:14 Cheapskate Wednesday tomorrow on WTSO, anyone ever have any luck with those things?
I find I'm buying less and less from WTSO. Used to like them for 4 packs of daily drinkers, but the deals haven't
seemed as interesting lately.
2012-05-15 16:14:20 BrunelloBob my experience with WTSO lately was limited to Ondarre, Kunde CS or Merlot, a few super tuscans. I
am in general overbought and will be busy tomorrow, which is good as I don't need any more wine.
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2012-05-16 01:27:53 On a good roll lately. Another terrific wine last night. 2009 Crognolo from Tuscany, courtesy of WTSO @$23.
Great pairing with my famous pesto linguine. If it shows up tomorrow, I would suggest trying some!!
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2012-05-16 08:37:44 @louas. coincidentally, I just received a private client offer from JJB for the 2009 Crognolo. $19.50 + shipping
25635 mr21cbs
2012-05-16 10:05:57 louas, I have enjoyed a few bottles of Crognolo, with only 1 more left. Excellent wine for the money IMHO. Next
time it shows up, I will definitely grab more. Are you planning to pay attention to the WTSO Cheapskate
Wednesday today?
2012-05-16 10:08:01 @cbs - I'm with you in the "overbought" status, but I do pick up good buys as they appear. I've changed most of
my purchasing from 6 packs and cases to 3 or 4. It let's me still buy that deal, yet not kill the budget nor the
storage issue.
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2012-05-16 11:26:26 John O' my challenge with JJB is that they don't ship to PA, and shipping and handling would get the price close if
not above what WTSO is charging. It is definitely good to know that this wine is available elsewhere.
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2012-05-16 12:25:41 john o. that is a fantastic deal on the crognolo. usually that wine wholesales in the lo to mid $20 range
25639 john o'
2012-05-16 12:39:13 Along with the Crognolo, I picked up some 2008 Orma for $38 (about 1/2 off). Never tried it, but it has great
scores and CT reviews.
2012-05-16 12:47:52 wow john, another great deal! orma is around $75 here, and worth it imo
2012-05-16 13:47:49 J.O.; Was that Orma a JJBuck deal? PCP?
2012-05-16 14:00:18 @ BB
Yes, both the Crognolo and Orma are JJB's PCP.
My rep is Charity, if that helps.
2012-05-16 19:04:24 Thanks Australian John!
2012-05-16 20:46:06 While sitting here waiting for an interesting Cheapskate offering (zero for me so far) and watching the Rays/Red
Sox, I came across this mesmerizing demo/film clip. Sorry for the long url:
http://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k16940&pageid=icb.page80863&p
ageContentId=icb.pagecontent341734&state=maximize&view=view.do&viewParam_name=indep
th.html#a_icb_pagecontent341734
2012-05-16 21:45:32 All I have to do is start watching the Sawks , and they start losing.
Life is Hard....TGFW...
2012-05-16 21:50:44 As many of you have already helped me (THANKS !!!!!!!), I need a few more votes: on Facebook "like" Shearer
Chevrolet, use the link to the Rev Your Ride contest and vote for the SS Camaro with the US of A plate
(me)...ends tonight at midnight (EST)....Thanks all !
2012-05-16 22:08:21 Wine Magnet, that was very cool. I love physics, although it's been a while since I used it.
2012-05-16 22:27:54 @BB
Any time, mate.
2012-05-16 22:40:54 @WM - thanks for sharing the link. Very cool!
2012-05-16 23:19:53 Last week someone was lamenting the death of their laptop. I just saw this on slickdeals.net:
Toshiba Satellite L775D-S7340 Laptop: Quad Core A6-3420M 1.4GHz, 17.3" LED (1600x900) Display, 6GB DDR3,
640GB HDD, HD 6520G, Blu-ray, WiFi N, HDMI, Webcam, 6-Cell Battery, Win 7 Prem 64-Bit $465, with $5
shipping. It is NOT a refurb.
It is featured on: 1SaleADay.com
It's kind of big for carrying, but very tempting as a sometimes moved computer, but I just bought two 15.6" HP s
for my office.
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2012-05-16 23:56:07 Actually just got home from a very long work day so WTSO has not factored in today at all.
However, the roll continues (excepting the Rangers): 2008 Twisted Oak Petite Sirah. Woot $17. Ms. Louas had
the foresight to decant this earlier and it is just delicious. If it shows up somewhere, grab some. But let me
know first! 101 in the shade today!
2012-05-17 08:57:14 Wine Magnet, I am an Intel guy when it comes to processors, but that AMD A6-3420M at 1.4GHz is way too low.
With the Intel 3rd generation i3/i5/i7 processors hitting the market, older models will be cheaper. DavidT was
looking for a netbook or a tablet, so this would not necessarily fit his needs, but thanks for sharing.
What did you get for your office? I need a laptop for my wife...
2012-05-17 09:21:02 @mr21cbs: I recently bought an HP Pavilion g6 (15" screen) with an i5 processor for <$500 and am very
satisfied with it.
2012-05-17 09:22:14 Havens Wine Cellars on WTSO. Discuss.
2012-05-17 09:45:07 "Meritage" aka "leftovers"
2012-05-17 11:50:50 louas: Re: Havens Wine Cellars on WTSO. Discuss: Disgust! It's a shame that Michael Havens surname is being
used by interlopers who will likely make us HSC members look like idiots for our Havens passion.
Speaking of which, thanks to David T's comments a few weeks back, I opened an '06 Havens Syrah with the 2+
inch rare Porterhouse. After being open an hour or two, I savored it and shared some with some casual wine
drinker guests for dinner. They recognized it as something a lot better than the cheap stuff they pick up at the
PX. There may be hope for their palates yet.
I need to post some CT notes. I considered it a solid 91. Alas, I have only 3 bottles left.
I subsequently opened an '05 Havens H Velvet (syrah/cab blend) and was not nearly as happy. I may have been
generous to consider it an 88, although after a night under Argon, it was more interesting. I guess I should
decant the next one to see if that helps some of the less pleasant nose subside. Alas, I have 8 of them left, and
hope is fading for improvement. Time for a low budget party!
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2012-05-17 14:10:22 If you want 2009 Tenuta Sette Ponti Crognolo Toscana IGT Super Tuscan for $22.99 and free shipping on 4
bottles, send an email to Julie Blount at WTSO (julie at wtso.com). I asked her about it, they have the wine, she
accommodated my request and will do the same for you. This is not $19.50 as at JJB, but free shipping makes it
worth.
2012-05-17 15:06:53 That was, mercifully, the MOST uninteresting Cheapskate Wednesday ever.
Is it me, or are there just a flood of reasonable BdM and Barolo offers floating around right now?!... killing me.
Resisting nearly all of them, but killing me.
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2012-05-17 15:23:07 Dude's like my Beautiful Wife, doesn't listen to a thing I say... :lol:
The bottom has been falling out of BdM for two years, Barolo more recently. I'm blaming a combination of 1) a
run of good vintages and 2) poor economys in the US, Italy, the world really . I've got older bottles of Brunello in
my cellar that I look at the prices and ask :"I paid How Much?"The internet has changed the way I buy as well,
making it easier to find the "rock bottom price" on Any bottle.
And, BTW, resistance is Futile.
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25671 wine magnet
2012-05-17 16:02:38 Harlan '06, '00, '98, '97, '96, '95 "The Maiden" were just on invino. Sold out within minutes.
2012-05-17 16:40:59 mr21cbs: I had to wait until I was back at the office to check the laptops I bought in late Nov/early Dec. The
specs: HP 630 Notebook, Pentium 6200 @ 2.13 GHz, 4GB RAM, WiFi, Windows 7 Home Premium, 298 G Hard
drive, CD/DVD, and more which means nothing to me. I am not a game player,etc., but these two meet our
needs for portability and were $299 + FL tax, w/free overnight shipping. (Ordered around 4-4:30pm and they
arrived via FedEx before 10 the next day), from Tiger Direct, as I recall. Having old eyes which are not adjusting
well to progressive lenses, a LARGER monitor might help. I have not seen this price again, anywhere. I saw it on
slickdeals.net and ordered it through their site from the seller, Tiger Direct (?).
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25674 BuffaloLou
2012-05-17 18:44:33 BLOU, for how much each?
2012-05-17 23:22:07 @BDude:
2006 - $120
2000 - $100
1998 - $110
1997 - $210
1996 - $140
1995 - $100
25676 louas
For the high rollers out there, they had: 2000 Marqués de Murrieta Castillo Ygay
Rioja Gran Reserva Especial, 27 Liter bottle! (That's 3 cases for the mathematically challenged. lol) Only
$3,999.99
2012-05-18 00:51:58 @ wine magnet: +1 re: Havens
@mr21cbs: re: Crognolo. U r the man. Great contact. Thank you. Sadly, summer has arrived here with a
vengeance. 100+ all next week so shipping is officially suspended until +/- Halloween.
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2012-05-18 09:27:08 This place needs more Ludddite...
Where are you amigo?
2012-05-18 12:55:11 for those of you that missed the Leth Roter Veltliner each of the last two times it was on Cindy... i recommend it.
I enjoyed it a few years ago (when Cindy was young and the forum was on the CW site itself)..and may just grab
more here with the SuperCindy deal going on right now... check your emails if you don't know re the 10 bottles
at original cindy prices....
2012-05-18 14:06:37 @BD - I just checked in to see if anyone had any comments on the super cindy sale. I was hoping someone had
tried the '07 Leth. I would second the dude and say that the '06 Leth RV was one of the best sub $20 wines I
have ever had. Add in the totally unique varietal geek factor and it is a no brainer for almost anyone who would
visit this forum. I have six on their way from the last round.
As for the Havens discussion, every bottle I drink is bittersweet and the crap that WTSO is pushing only makes it
worse.
2012-05-18 17:40:06 Some hot licks from Derek Trucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clkrASgM8Rc&feature=related
2012-05-18 21:06:49 Not too often I openor drink a 30-YO wine, but tonight seemed as good as any to give it a go and I wasn't
disappointed. Here's hoping each of you had a great week and have a better weekend. Cheers!
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=137304" rel="nofollow">1982 Château
d'Issan</a> - France, Bordeaux, Médoc, Margaux (5/18/2012)
30 year old margaux showing sweet red fruit, florals, leather, spice, and some musty barnyard. The wine showed
incredible balance and finesse with notes of sweet red fruit, cassis, leather, tea, dusty tannins and a finish that
was very pleasant and long. The acidity seems to be the lifeline to this wine and makes this feel youthful and
fresh despite slightly fading fruit and tannins. (92 points)
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2012-05-18 21:13:20 Just Wondering: How many shares of "Facebook" did the Demigod buy today?
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2012-05-18 21:16:11 At home this weekend with family, unfortunately missing PhillyOffline. I had a blast blast blast last year. I wish all
safe travels and a great evening.
Havens Update:
Agree
Yes
Indeed
Pather Piss
2007 Lot 179 was the last great wine by Havens IMHO
2008 Lot 208 is solid but I sense some liberties from CH
2008 Lot 213 is just not right shut the front door
2005 Velvet. H may be in twilight serve on cool side
2005 Black and Blue outta 1.5 Liter decanted 1 hour is easy like Sunday morning
2004 Havens B is at its peak drink up,
Gotta run. In a New York Minute everything can change.
2012-05-18 22:28:31 @BB - none, FB is so yesterday!
Today is Mrs. BLou's b-day. I popped a delish Gewurtz (her fav white) from Alsace (2006 Domaine Weinbach
Gewurztraminer Cuvée Laurence). 90BL. Very nice. Love the botrytis notes on the palate. Then popped two
2004 Azienda Agricola Musella Amarone della Valpolicella Riserva in juice packs. Another hit!
Scout Alex started a campfire for us on this gorgeous evening. Nothing like sitting around the fire, sipping on a
nice adult beverage, sharing the evening with family. Yeah...
Brooks is the Havens demi-god. All bow toward nyc. (TY for the advice, Brooks!)
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2012-05-18 22:36:04 A little Tab Benoit doin' Albert doin' Howlin' Wolf:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiWbAbv13eE
2012-05-19 00:36:54 Enjoyed a Clos de Chaudenay Sancerre with grilled veggies over quinoa tonite. Very nice and crisp.
Better, however, was/is the Esoterica 2008 Vermelho Forte (65% Tinta Madeira/35% Touriga) with dark
chocolate.
2012-05-19 00:42:39 Great stuff! Get a good laugh to start the weekend!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3-2Z2rmG0w
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2012-05-19 05:19:28 :?: QOTD:
Normally when you open a bottle of sparkling wine, the base of the cork expands, almost immediately, well
beyond the point where it will fit back in the bottle. Last night we had a bottle of champagne, and that didn't
happen. The base of the cork stayed the same size/shape as a regular cork. It could fit back in the bottle no
problem Why?? The wine was fine, very good actually.
Theories?
1) Quality of the cork?
2) Age? 1999 Vintage...
3) Improper (upright?) storage? The bottle was on its side when I bought it, but who knows hx?
Inquiring minds want to know...
2012-05-19 05:56:43 @BB RE: cork
Could be that the cork was dry since the bottle stood upright. Is that how you stored it?
2012-05-19 08:46:53 @B²: Everything is fine thanks! Mostly lurking and getting ready to head north to VA for the summer. One last
wine club dinner on Tuesday night (Central Italy and Tuscan wines):
http://thebrentwoodrestaurant.com/Wine-Club-Central%20Italy&Tuscan.html
25707 David T
Thinking of bringing one of the following: a '05 Lamborghini Campoleone Rosso, or a '07 La Gerla RdM, or the '08
Le Sughere di Frassinello. So far I've Tried the La Gerla and it tasted more like a sour cherry Pinot to me. What
say you?
2012-05-19 09:55:18 About to hit up Philly with WIM & Pats-Pwr :) Looking forward to seeing everyone else in a few short hours!
@BBob That's an interesting question, I would be interested to know as well
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2012-05-19 14:44:19 @Luddite: Had a bottle of the Lamborghini Last week and it really was drinking well. Delicious wine
2012-05-19 15:49:30 Getting ready for the Philly Offline. The wine is picked and packed. See everyone soon and will post pics/videos
afterwards.
2012-05-19 21:46:20 @vinmoet - I am way behind on this board, but thank you so much for the Alice and Jancis interviews! I just had
a tasting last night with mostly wines that fall somewhere on the "natural" spectrum and quite a few of them
were really aligning with where my palate is these days.
2012-05-20 01:40:22 @ a BSA in home fundraiser, enjoyed a 2010 Vietti Moscato d'Asti Cascinetta Vietti with a Cioppino (soup
course). Both were exceptional.
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2012-05-20 07:53:30 K is for Kate: Good to hear from you. They are both wonderful writers and savvy wine reviewers. Jancis is
definitely the cat's meow in my book. Alice writes a funny book with a smart edge.
Post up some of your notes...things sometimes get too quiet around here.
2012-05-20 08:03:49 Last night I tried the 2009 Chateau Batailley Grand Cru Pauillac. Pauillac is next to Margaux and is arguably one
of the most prestigious wine appellations in the world. Problem is, that drives up the price. Finding one that is
affordable is sometimes a challenge. These are generally cab sauv dominated with merlot, maybe cab franc, and
maybe petit verdot where a Saint Emilion will be more Merlot dominated with the same essential blend.
According to Wiki this Chateau is planted 70% Cabernet Sauvignon, 25% Merlot, 3% Cabernet Franc and 2% Petit
Verdot
This wine, my friends, is tapping on the door of rockstardom. I posted some notes on Cindy which I am putting
here:
Wow. This wine sings. Dark cherries, dark and light currants, smooth as silk. Lovely nose, beautiful opening
flavors full and caressing, but not overpowering. Touch of Graves like smoke. Great mid palate. Sensuous finish.
Really, really like this wine. And its so young!!!. Decanted 2 hours. Much more complex than the Haut Batailley,
which is good in its own right. 92++VM. Fine. VM93.
I paid about $40 which is stealing for this wine. It sells for about $60 now and is still a bargain at that price. Can't
wait to taste this in 10-15 years. Love to taste it now. Early drinker with the ability to age. Best of all worlds.
Here are Parker's notes:
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Wine Advocate #199
Feb 2012 Robert Parker 94 Drink: 2017 - 2047 $46-$97 (65)
"The finest Batailley I have had in many years, the dense purple-colored 2009 exhibits a boatload of tannin as
well as sweet, caramelized, black currant fruit intermixed with hints of charcoal, cedarwood and smoke, a full2012-05-20 08:14:56 Jancis was GV's biggest WLTV guest ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dOyxxjG_9g
2012-05-20 08:20:29 OK, now you've got me going on Jancis again. One of my favorite interviews of all time was her interview of
Henri Jayer, a small BIG TIME Burgundy maker (OK, I do sometimes drink something other than Bordeaux):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QzMDgQvcA0
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2012-05-20 12:42:07 St. Louis ribs with AFKs rib rub are in the smoker!
To those that have already tried AFKs rib rub, what did you pair with it: Beer? Wine? Specifics?
2012-05-20 17:32:47 @BLou: Ribs=Beer!
2012-05-20 21:18:47 Well, dinner is long gone. I chose beer to go with AFKs ribs. The ribs were fantastic! Cooked in the smoker for 5
hours, they were super tender, moist, and oh so tasty! AFKs rub rocked! I kept trying to think if it was missing
anything (to give input) but I could not. I did add cayenne, but that's a personal taste that would not be a good
addition for most.
@louas - I like the way you think!
2012-05-20 21:30:18 Forgot to mention: the bark that formed from AFKs rub and the smoking was freaking amazing!
2012-05-20 22:55:01 Just got home; this weekend was great. Good wine and even better people. Looking forward to the next time!
2012-05-20 23:19:55 Hey Vinmoet - have you had the 2000 Batailley (no Haut!)? I have 3 bottles and was considering popping one. If
its anything like the 2009 sounds like I can't go wrong? Or hold off another few years?
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2012-05-21 09:08:19 Redstar: I tasted it a few years ago...have not tasted it recently. My own guess is that it might still be young and
benefit from more age. Given that you have three bottles and it is over a decade old, you could try one and hold
the next for several years, drink it and so on.
Parker has tasted this wine a number of times. Here are his notes:
Wine Advocate #189
Jun 2010 Robert Parker 88 Drink: 2010 - 2018 $55-$100
Black currant, licorice, damp earth, moss, and fresh porcini mushroom characteristics emerge from this dark
plum/ruby-colored Pauillac. It is not as strong, powerful, or deep as more recent vintages of Batailley, with
noticeable, but not excessive tannin as well as medium body. Drink it over the next 7-8 years.
Wine Advocate #146
Apr 2003 Robert Parker 86 Drink: 2008 - 2020 $55-$100 (22)
Dark plum/garnet in color, this wine is tight, hard, closed down, and difficult to penetrate. Neither complicated
nor flashy, it reveals good weight and fine ripeness, but the finish seems abrupt, and the wine largely austere and
unimpressive. Hopefully, more will emerge with cellaring. Anticipated maturity: 2008-2020.
Wine Advocate #139
Feb 2002 Robert Parker (87-88) Drink: 2008 - 2020 $55-$100 (22)
Always a tight-fisted, traditionally-styled Pauillac that performs better at ten years of age, the 2000 Batailley
reveals a dark ruby color along with sweet black currant fruit presented in an uncomplicated, medium-bodied,
firmly tannic, well-delineated style. Anticipated maturity: 2008-2020.
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This traditionally-styled Pauillac never performs as well young as it does at 10-12 years of age. The deep
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2012-05-21 09:58:23 Checking in from the Longboat Key Hilton, must be quick, beach day you know!
@NaH: Dry cork is my best guess. I bought the thing locally, recently, and the bottle was on it's side when I
bought it. I stored it less than a month that way. I know the retailer stores a lot of their champagne upright.
Given the vintage, it may have been on the shelf for awhile.
Ludds: Good to hear from you. I like the Gerla RdM. Not a fan of the Le Sughere (and am down on 2008 Italy in
general), though it definately has its fans. The Lamborghini I only know by reputation.
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Cheers, surfs up!
2012-05-21 12:00:14 Pictures from the Philly Offline 2 can be found here:
https://plus.google.com/photos/110518603837060989855/albums/5745016049359087393?authkey=CJGJl9WRj
srVbw
2012-05-21 12:08:31 Looks like an absolutely fun evening. Jealous.
2012-05-21 12:15:10 last night at Boulevard in SF with wife for her birthday, opened a 1982 Sociando Mallet... great bottle of wine.
Lots of complexity and mushroomy-dirt scents, backed up by a very gentle and easy to drink balance of fruit and
a tiny bit of acidity still in there. I would say it was likely past its peak (for my palate which wants a tad more
fruit), but still a great bottle and for the first time i think i get what pre-Parker BOrdeaux was..
Vinnymoet... any other "value" 1982s that you would recommend? (I think i bought this bottle about 5 years
ago at K&L for 90bucks or so)
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2012-05-21 12:22:36 Those kind of prices are gone. As far as QPR kind of '82's that are still out there, well you're paying close to the
$200 mark. I like Calon Segur (St. Estephe), Montrose (St. Estephe) and Canon (St. Emillion). All still drinking
nicely and can be had under $200.
2012-05-21 23:58:04 Hey BLou and the rest of you smokers: Next time you are thinking of smoking a beef brisket, change it up and
smoke a Corned Beef Brisket. You will not be disappointed.
Pedroncelli 2009 Dry Creek Valley Merlot from Woot.wine as part of a mixed case for $99. Possibly QPR of the
year for me.
2012-05-22 00:10:26 @louas - I never considered smoking a corned beef brisket, but after thinking about it for a second, it sounds like
a great idea! Do you add any additional rub? If nothing else, I'd think some cracked peppercorn would be
excellent. Perhaps the addition of some ground mustard seed, garlic, juniper berry and a little ground bay leaf.
2012-05-22 00:28:22 @louas - a FB buddy of mine concurred with you about smoking the corned beef brisket. He suggested an apple
rub. Sounds like a plan!
2012-05-22 05:15:37 Hi
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2012-05-22 08:40:12 @Blou: I usually don't add anything besides smoke.
2012-05-22 12:46:57 Inmates- looking for some advise from our Italien experts. I am serving a 2007 LaGerta DM Rosso with dinner this
evening. Should I decant it? If so, how long? TIA!
2012-05-22 12:50:18 Inmates- B-21 has the 2009 Chateau Batailley Grand Cru Pauillac. I splurged and ordered a case for $49.99,
which included shipping.
2012-05-22 13:18:31 McMalbec: Think you will be happy. Awfully big time wine for that kind of money.
2012-05-22 13:29:10 McMalbec: Had the 2009 Batailley at the UGC in January and it was one of the stand outs for me. I did not
manage to source any though. Canon la Gaffeliere, Clerc Milon, and Gloria were among my other favorites.
2012-05-22 15:39:03 Binny's has it for $50 too: http://www.binnys.com/wine/batailley
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I think you get 5% off on a case.
Enjoyed a fantastic rare grilled hanger steak with 2006 Thumbprint Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon Schneider
Vineyard (90BL).
??: would smoked corned beef not be pastrami ? I actually had an INCREDIBLE Korean Reuben
yesterday.......chef/owner smoked his own Pastrami (TWSS), topped with homemade Kimchi and Chili Mayo all
served from a 1976 Winnebago..............you can check them out on Facebook (Misery Loves Co. is the name of
the business).....the food in this area just keeps getting better !!!
McM: a LaGerla? (you typed LaGerta, and i googled that and found nothing).... A Brunello or a Rosso Di
Montalcino?
if its the ROsso, pop and pour away! The 07 is very drinkable and does develop a little bit more over maybe a 2030 minute period... but quaff away!
@TonyO: Different breeds of cat!
@BaroloDude: you are correct-my bad- I was at work when I posted and the wines were at home.
The 2007 La Gerla Rosso Di Montalcino and 2008 Stony Hill Chardonnay were the red and white choices for
chicken breasts sauteed in dijon mustard sauce. I opened the Rosso at 6:30 and to my taste buds, it did not need
decanting. Both wines were served 15 minutes later and recieved numerous compliments.
Come on let's go. 21k right around the corner.
Been quite lately. 21K could be slow coming...
Unless it has some help... 20,993
20,994...
20,995...
20,996...
20,997...
20,998...
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bogart..............
I'll leave 21K for someone with a 'real' post. 20,999...
or not
LOL! I pulled a TO! ;)
How's it going tonight, TO?
had I not reached for one more Dorito...............
TWSS........
oh, it's going ! just received 6 bottles of Sleeper Sav Blanc from Last Bottle.....might have to throw a few "shrimp
on the barbie" tomorrow night ! Going to be a splendid weekend: great weather, Mrs. TonyO's birthday (5/26)
and dinner with Mr/Mrs. Karl "White Burgundy" B ............
@AFK: rubbed some beef ribs with the AFK rub last night and did a low heat grill..........I was cutting the lawn on
my tractor and the aromatics were mouth watering! The result was delicious.......our 7 year old said "this is what
I call eating" ! My buddy John (from I-Que) is going to try it next week and I will forward his thoughts .....thanks
again.......gonna smoke some locally raised chicken thighs this weekend using some more of the AFK Rubba Dub !
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2012-05-24 12:29:51 hey TonyO, pls post your thoughts on that Sleeper SB... might want to let it rest a few weeks though before
popping....
2012-05-24 21:22:30 @BaroloDude: I popped one tonight..............weird................tons of pineapple, coconut, and smoke.....a very
complex wine but one of those that will be VERY polarizing....as it warmed up, I think it got better.......verdict is
still out but this is a love or hate wine..............the glass still has essence 10 minutes after I finished it ( I switched
glasses in case anyone was wondering why my glass was empty for 10 minutes....)
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2012-05-24 21:26:31 Thought for the Weekend: Driving home tonight with the sun setting over the Adirondack Mountains in my
rearview mirror and the newly green Green Mountains ahead of me (and some Pearl Jam for my soundtrack) I
had to say, "man I am glad I am here".............repeat often and spread the love..........
25801 BrunelloBob
2012-05-25 20:58:33 Anyone got anything on that freak-show of a Spanish white on Empire Ship4?
(Egia Enea Txakolina Bizkaiko 2009) The 2008 was a Cindy offer.
I'm a fan of albarino lately, but this is new to me...
(And has anyone Ever had a "palate staining" White? Might order it just for That Experience....)
2012-05-25 22:52:37 @NY Pete:
1. NY Pete a NJ fan?
2. Congrats.
3. Beat L.A.
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2012-05-26 10:45:43 Life is like soccer .......... you spend most of your time chasing ....and kicking things for later...but never touching
the things you desire
Wine is like soccer.... you spend most of your time chasing deals...kicking yourself for bad calls...but rarely getting
the perfect score
Drink wine....avoid soccer....enjoy life.
I have more wine than I can drink....I have less wine than I want.
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25807 AdamEmpire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA1sx-vyWVk
2012-05-26 12:24:55 The good news is that our daughter just got accepted to Cornell Law School to join the class of 2015. The bad
news is that she doesn't have a rich uncle :( Any volunteers who would be willing to donate $225,000 - and
before you ask no I don't have that much invested in wine :)
2012-05-26 12:54:26 BrunelloBob - Txakoli is underrated and one of my favorite white varieties. Their crisp acidity make them perfect
for food and the 2009 vintage produced some fuller bodied examples. The Egia Enea and Itsas Mendi are
consistent favorites of both mine and the "critics." I will be enjoying some chilled later this afternoon.
I hope everyone has a fantastic weekend!
25808 BrunelloBob
2012-05-26 13:33:40 @Ludds: OUTSTANDING! Congratulations to your daughter. If there was ever an excuse to drink something
Good.... :) :)
@Brooks: Soccer sucks. :). Life and wine are more variable....
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@Adam: Thanks!
2012-05-26 14:14:42 Prof Luddite. Congrats.
Uncle Brooks. ;)
2012-05-26 18:07:09 @B² and Brooks: Many thanks! Brooks welcome to our family :D
2012-05-26 18:28:39 A bit earlier someone made a comment about being on an albarino kick. Well, I just tried an Alvarinho (Portugese
version) .........
2010 Adega De Moncao Deu la Deu Alvarinho Vinho Verde . One of the more complex versions of this style of
wine I have had in a while.
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2012-05-26 19:58:45 @Ludds: Congrats to your daughter, and to you and your better half. You must have done something right!
@Brooks: You are a wise man, sir.
Great day today... Started with placing flags on Vet's tombstones at a local cemetery with the Scouts, then some
yard work with Mrs. BLou, Mass, and an awesome dinner, grilled, split, chicken breasts, grilled vegis, then mixed
(the vegis) with some brown rice. Delish! Now, just popped an '05 Sarah's Vineyard, Syrah, Besson Vineyard. On
the PnP, it blew me away! Gonna let this open for a few while enjoying a soon-to-come (OK, moments away... )
campfire.
I hope you all have a terrific holiday weekend.
To all our vets: Thank you for your service, and may God bless you for the freedom you secure.
Campfire time!
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2012-05-27 07:50:41 Luddite: Congratulations. A great honor, a very big event.
Am taking off with the family for the crescent city tonight, coming back next weekend. Lots of seafood and, well,
er, beer ahead of me (still taking a wine bag). May check in, but if so, infrequently.
Laissez les bons temps rouler! Who dat? Go Saints. Yep, they will think I'm a local (or is that loco?)
25817 McMalbec
2012-05-27 10:58:23 @ Ludd: Congrats. None of my children have felt the call although my son is a para-legal/consultant. He loves the
hours compared to mine.Smart kid.
Speaking of my youngest, he made me a grandparent for the first time and we are spending a long weekend with
him in Santa Barbara. Since mom is breast feeding, wine has not been an emphasis, but eating lots of great
seafood! Had sea bass and scallops on the grill last night. Son popped a 2007 CH (287) Cab-Stags Leap which was
good- not a complement for the fish but it tasted just fine on its own.
Had an unidentified regional Syrah (a house wine) at cocktails with some of mom's family which was ok.
A great holiday to you and yours, Inmates. Find some time to remember.
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2012-05-27 12:47:01 On the eve of Memorial Day 2012, I am humbled with gratitude for those who have made the ultimate sacrifice
to preserve the freedom that we all cherish.
I ( and we all ) should not be thanking tomorrow our present day active military, those who serve and have
served will be in agreement with this statement. Tomorrow is a most somber day honoring only the lost.
I will toast with the greatest respect to my friends who have given their lives for this great nation with a glass of
Joe Phelps Cab.
I will also raise a glass of a tbd CdP as I do every year to my Grand Uncle Vincent, who gave his life on the
beaches of Normandy and whos remains are buried in the American Cemetery overlooking Omaha Beach where
he fell.
It is so very important that all Americans truly understand the nature of this day.
Oh and yeah... kaos out
25820 BuffaloLou
2012-05-27 14:35:57 Continuing my 'outdoor work avoidance' by marinating six racks of ribs (sadly no more of that crazy Texan's rib
rub left... When can I order some, AFK?!), then got them into the smoker along with a couple of corned beef
roasts. Will follow by preparing a couple of whole chickens for the rotisserie.
As it is 5:00 somewhere on this beautiful holiday weekend, I started with a cold Golden Monkey Tripel. Best
domestic Tripel around, esp for the $$!
Speaking of crazy Texans, my cousin who lives in Houston was walking across the street with some friends in
Galvaston late last night. An driver that was driving too fast (my guess, was probably DWI, too, but that's my
speculation... ) hit him as he pushed one of his friends to safety. He's in ICU in an induced coma with head
injuries and a broken leg. Kind of puts a damper on the holiday...
@kaos - nice to hear from you. Wise words. Enjoy the JPV Cab!
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25822 BrunelloBob
2012-05-27 19:13:02 B² - Belated Happy Birthday
2012-05-27 21:08:34 @HMan: Ummmm, Thanks?
There's been some monkey business in the past re: my birthdays (Totally my fault and, in my opinion, pretty
hilarious, though Mott disagrees) so I'm not sure anyone knows when my real birthday is. Nonetheless, 364 days
out of the year , a belated wish is appreciated!
Belated happy birthday to all you guys as well!
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2012-05-27 23:54:23 B² – If it was, then Belated Happy Birthday to you! So, when is your REAL b-day?
It was an amazing night of food. The smoked ribs were fantastic; the rotisseried chicken was moist with the
herbes de provance oh so tasty! Add some sweet corn and grilled asparagus and "wow" what a meal! That was
five hours ago. The smoked corned beef was JUST taken off the the smoker/cooker after over 11 hours of "low
and slow" (I'm talking 15 minutes ago... ) ABSOLUTELY FREAKING AMAZING! Still could use an hour or two to
tenderize, but the flavor is nothing like what I've had before. The sweetness from the smoking; the saltiness of
the the concentrated corned beef; It's just amazing! Will finish tomorrow. MAJOR KUDOOS TO LOUAS FOR THE
REC!
2012-05-28 00:08:00 @ BB every BD is a event to celebrate! Congrats, belated or not.
@BL -what a feast! The scouts you work with must love campouts that you cook at!
Day 4 in Santa Barbara. Son arranged yet another great dinner, this evening at the Boathouse and again popped
a CH, this time a 2009 (282) Rutherford Cab which was very,very good. Also enjoyed a 2010 SB Chardonay.
2012-05-28 00:24:32 @McMalbec - The best part (at Scout campouts) is that I don't cook! The boys get to do the menu, the shopping,
and the cooking! I just help guide them. There truly is no greater glory than seeing them succeed!
@McMalbec, Pt II - Sounds like you, too, had a great day! I wish you love and peace. Nothing like sharing life's
best moments with the ones we cherish most.
Speaking of... Tonight I spoke with my son, "Scout Alex". We discussed his future over the next 12 to 24 months;
What he needs to obtain the rank of "Eagle". What he needs to do to become a member of the Order of the
Arrow (Scouting's "honor society") which he has been elected, but not yet 'paid his dues' to be a member. And
yes, we discussed the wonderful meal we shared just hours ago. I am so impressed with the maturity of a 13
year old, yet he is still a boy. I can't wait until his next milestone yet I don't want him to grow up. I want to feel
his love and the hug that he is still willing to give me. I'm sure many of you have 'been here, done that;" That
precious moment between still being a boy and growing to become a man. I love him so much, and I can't wait
to see him mature to become a man, yet I don't want to let go of the wonderful boy that he is. All the books that
I've read, not one said that this would be the most difficult time...
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2012-05-28 06:24:11 In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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25842 McMalbec
2012-05-29 12:08:31
-- by Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, May 3, 1915
@Blou: Kudos accepted!!!!!
Bachelor weekend for me. The commissioner was in Chicago spending the weekend with her Mom. Poor me
didn't go 8-).
Used AFK rub on a grilled turkey breast last nite. That stuff is the bomb! Had Woot wine Reisling called F-Bomb.
Just OK. Chill it and kill it type wine.
Tonite treated myself to a prime strip steak with a 2001 Pauillac juice box that was from Last Bottle a couple of
months back.
I think this is over the hill. Not much to it. "Bottled exclusively for Chalone by 'Les Domaines Barons de
Rothschild (Lafite)' "
Nice that Ludds' post essentially stood alone for Memorial Day.
Fitting tribute.
@louas I've got a couple of those as well. Are you saying they're bad enough to warrant a return, or was this a
"drink em if you've got em" alert?
@Luddite: Congrats to your daughter. I hope you find your quarter million to finance the deal. Painful to think
about, but joyous at the same time.
Heading back to the heartland today. Enjoyed a CH- Havens 179 last night. My new grand daughter is asleep in
my arms right now. i will miss this until our next trip to Santa Barbara.
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2012-05-29 12:15:23 How do you type with your grand daughter in your arms ??!??
"DON'T DROP THE BABY!!!!" :P
2012-05-29 12:25:16 "BrunelloBob: Killing Himself (and perhaps Only himself) since post #38" :lol:
2012-05-29 15:31:53 @WIM: I would say drink em if ya got em.
2012-05-29 16:24:47 @BB: by the miracle of Dragon Naturally
Speaking!
2012-05-29 17:49:23 But Dragons EAT Babies!!!! :o
2012-05-29 18:51:58 McMalbec, please share your experience with Dragon, as I am starting a proof of concept project to streamline
and speed up information management via voice. I have the Nuance Naturally Speaking Pro on order. Thanks!
2012-05-29 19:54:19 Had a mini-offline here over the weekend with Mr/Mrs KarlB and another friend that was a Cindy lurker (posts as
Jack O'Brien on cellartracker, not sure what his Cindy name was)......Great time ! At one point I think there were
5 empty bottles of Zin on the table (and I was asked repeatedly, "You have any Zin in your cellar" ?). Trying to
plan another for later in the Summer..........who's up for a trip to VT ????????
P.S. Montrose made an appearance on the Ipod at about 1:15 a.m.................
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2012-05-30 02:45:22 Should anyone be interested in my short tasting notes from the Philly offline, I finally got them posted here
2012-05-30 13:20:26 @mr.cbs: you already know from prior conversations that I am not very knowledgeable about computer issues.
At the advice of a colleague, I picked up the home version (most basic/least expensive) of Dragon and have been
using it to answer e-mails and for rough drafts of articles and briefs. Like most programs on my computer, I
probably use about 15% of what it can do. That said, I am very impressed with the program. I looked at the
technology about 20 years ago (then the big players were Dragon and IBM) and passed. Just like scanners, the
accuracy has come a long way. Naturally, there are idiosyncrasies and accuracy relates to the quality of the
microphone you're using and the conditions you're dictating in. Overall, I'm very pleased.
25877 BaroloDude
2012-05-30 14:01:02 interesting that the recent wine flash site article on marketwatch.com fails to even mention WL or CW. As i
thought about that, it struck me that, at first CW seemed to move a lot of wine, lots of sold out offerings. Lately,
even the "THIS WILL SELL OUT" Paleo offer has YET to sell out, and is still in my shopping cart at the deal price.
Other offers that are much hyped do not sell out... but i would still think they are moving enough volume overall
to merit mention in the article. More than Winespies at least... very odd their omission from that article....
25879 Hinrgman
2012-05-30 15:46:36 BDude - did you look at the chart that the article is based on? It lists CW as having 100 offers in the 12 month
period. That would be 2 offers per week. So much for accuracy.
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2012-05-30 15:57:35 Interesting article 'Dude.
Ignoring the market share Cindy lost via a couple notable public relations gaffs, I wonder if their exclusion has
something to do with a lack of available data. If they aren't publically held and/or soliciting investors, the author
may not have had much data on Cindy and the Temple to use in the article.
25884 mr21cbs
2012-05-30 16:20:55 Hinrgman, I am not advocating the accuracy of the information, but that is 100 domestic wine offers in
the last 12 months. It would be interesting to calculate how many overall offers there were... I suspect around
500.
2012-05-30 17:54:28 Hi all -
25889 ptaylor2112
LBW has the 2007 Domaine Serene Evenstad Reserve for $40, minimum 3. This pinot was on clearance at Binny's
about 8 months ago for the same price. I didn't keep tasting notes on the 2 bottles I bought, but the 2007 is not
as full bodied nor fruit forward as many Oregon Pinots (not that that's necessarily a bad thing).
Took my 80yr old dad to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway yesterday. He did 3 laps around the track with Davey
Hamilton. They got up to about 180.... My dad said it was "thrilling" and I am pretty sure he has never used that
word before!
back to the grindstone...
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2012-05-30 18:08:38 Mr21 - do the math. 2xday 5xweek x50 wk. that's somewhere around 500.
2012-05-31 15:41:14 Does anyone live here anymore??
25933 McMalbec
25934 BrunelloBob
I am looking to try some good Albarino, does anyone have any experience with the Bodegas As Laxas Albarino on
Empire??
2012-05-31 15:43:46 @Scott: we Inmates are on a institutional break!
2012-05-31 15:50:17 Scott: That Albarino on Empire has some pretty weak CT notes over multiple vintages. You can do better.
I really like: Pazo de Señorans Albariño Rías Baixas , https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1110533
If price is an issue, Bodegas La Cana Rías Baixas , https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1172688 is
good too.
Last I knew, The Temple had both.
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2012-05-31 16:27:15 Thanks BB!
I will give both of them a try. Looks like K@L has the Pazo de Señorans so I will pick one up from them.
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2012-05-31 17:10:29 Scott: The Albarino on the offer is fresh and delicious. If you are interested in the Pazo de Senorans 2010 I have
that as well for $19.45 per bottle. It is one of the finest Albarinos I have ever tasted. Shoot me an email or give
me a call if you are interested. Thank you.
2012-05-31 18:00:07 I was mildly disappointed that this website is not about a famous Sweathog.
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"famous sweathog" NICE!
Copper river salmon with @AFKs rub. Yeah baby!
And the wine????
AFKs rub... Ah, sweet memories...
@B²: http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=483015
OK. I've been offline for a while since I was in New Orleans. We actually drove this trip. Saw Graceland with the
kids on the way down. Now headed back to Illinois. We were to stop near Memphis on the way up but I opted
to stop in Oxford MS, the home of ole Miss, for the night. What a treat. Very pretty campus, saw the football
stadium and baseball stadium. Are staying in a hotel on the Square. Ate at a great restaurant. I hate grits. Mrs.
V ordered shrimp grits. Probably one of the best dishes I've eaten in the U.S. Highly recommend this burg for a
visit.
Catch up later. Go Saints. HEY MY QPR IS ANCIENT...CAN'T SOMEONE COME UP WITH SOMETHING???
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2012-06-02 08:06:58 I'm with you on grits, but for some reason they work with shrimp for me too,,,
2012-06-02 15:29:07 Nice looking 2010 Vacq. on WTSO
2012-06-02 19:26:27 I may be talking to myself, but,
% SAWKS are outta the basement, SAWKS are outta the basement....Doodah, Doodah! % :D
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2012-06-02 20:47:40 undeclared hattrick....mis-spellings and puctuation issues also singing in wrong key.....but other than that a
perfect post ;)
Winos...if you still have 2004 Francesc Sanchez Bas Priorat Montgarnatx in your cellar...I would suggest a sooner
versus later uncorking.
Just relaxing at home with a quiet moment...family life has been demanding but
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"Life isn't about waiting for
the storm to pass...it's about
learning to dance in the rain"
- Unknown
2012-06-02 21:29:17 Brooks LIVES!
I am Not Alone!
2012-06-02 22:01:25 Interesting day: drove to Berlin, NH to take part in a 10 person buyout of the former Balsams Resort wine cellar.
About 2300 total bottles that we bought in a draft styl;e lottery. A few of my purchase highlights were 2005 Far
Niente Cab, 2004 Altamura Cab, 2006 Cakebread cab, 2006 Col Solare, 2007 Inniskillin (and about 6 other cases
of mixed varietals/vintages). Sad to see such a once grand property close but hope the new owners will restore
it. hard to believe they only paid 2.5 million for 5,500 acres, the Inn, and an 18 hole golf course (and it is the tax
exempt Dixville Notch, NH known as the first place in the nation to vote). Should be interesting.......
2012-06-02 22:33:51 2007 Cavalier Bartolomo Barolo from WTSO with marinated grilled flank steak, grilled polenta and grilled
zucchini. My bad. This baby was drunk WAY before it's time. Pretty good after 3 hour decant with huge tannins.
Looking forward to drinking this in a few more years.
@TonyO: I was at a real estate conference a few weeks ago. One of the presentations involved foreclosures.
The northeast has avoided much of the pain that Florida, Nevada, AZ, Cal, etc have suffered. The bankers expect
a wave of foreclosures to hit the northeast in the near future.
Sorry if that stole anyone's peace this weekend.
2012-06-02 23:40:09 WTF IRISHTONY!!!!!, I'm like 4 hrs from the Balsams and you don't TELL ME about stuff like That!
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2012-06-03 00:04:42 Wow, I have a huge new wine-related crush. I just watched a wine show from the Ukraine with Gaia Gaja (of
*the* Gaja family) as a guest on it and I am smitten. The blind tasting the host does with her is also *really*
interesting (I won't spoil it by telling what it turned out to be). And there's a question of the day at the end, so
I'm sensing a WLTV influence in the show. I only wish more of the episodes were in English.
Part 1: http://youtu.be/aZ1F9MDWIYU
and part 2: http://youtu.be/LKCBs9CTBMU
Rather long, but I could watch her all day.
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2012-06-03 09:10:38 @BLou: Some Foppiano Library wines (96-97-98 Petite Sirah) over on wine.woot. FYI.
2012-06-03 11:44:49 thanks for the videos kate.. i watched the blind tasting and have to say that wine what spot on for what it was..
as they were tasting it greece was at the top of my list for possible origins... a hall mark of some of the top greek
reds is they have a 'piedmont profile, but yet dont fulfill all of the criteria to be from that region'.. they pretty
much said that in their assesment of this wine. gaia was thinking nebbiolo, but questioned whether it could be
from outside of piedmont
2012-06-03 13:25:52 @louas - wow! Thank you for the heads-up!
@TO - Nice!
2012-06-03 14:01:23 K is for Kate: Love the video. Thanks.
2012-06-03 14:52:07 @joe g - Interesting that you back up the comparison of Greece and the Piedmont region. I've thus far only
tasted one example of a Greek red, which was the varietal tasted blind, and I've also only tried one Barbaresco
thus far (both of these wines happened to be 2007, so much younger than the wines in the video), so I'm in no
place to make comparisons, but both were definitely the types of wines I would like to explore further. I
unfortunately have quite a while to go before any of the Nebbiolo in my cellar hits even 10 years old.
2012-06-03 14:52:20 @BB: I found out at the last minute on this............basically the old food and beverage director at the Balsams
bought the entire inventory and offered 10 shares. He now works with a friend of mine and we split a share
...........sad to see the place go, it was one of a kind ! If I hear of any other events in New England, I will let you
know !
Heading to Albany, NY for the funeral of my Father's best friend. A remarkable father, friend, engineer, husband,
and Vietnam Veteran.............the world has lost one of it's best .......
2012-06-03 15:13:38 T.O.: Don't sweat it. Condolences to you, your father, and his friend's family.
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2012-06-03 16:33:38 Condolences go out to your family friend Tony. It is truly a shame when we lose a good friends. I offer my prayers.
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2012-06-03 18:55:48 @TO - sorry to hear; best wishes and prayers to you, your father, and your father's friend's family.
2012-06-03 19:44:48 @TonyO: Best friends are exactly that - one of a kind! Thoughts and prayers to your father and his friend's
family.
2012-06-03 21:47:47 @TO: great that you can be there to support your dad.
2012-06-03 22:04:16 @ BD: any thoughts on this Barolo up on the Wine Chateau site -Michele Chiarlo Barolo Tortoniano 2006?
Appears to be a better "DEAL" only if you pick up a case for free shipping.
2012-06-04 11:24:40 Thank you to WiM, Luddite, TonyO, Louas, AFK and Family, and SS Chris for your generous donation to the
American Diabetes Association. My boys and I rode past Saturday in the Tour de Cure. We did 64 and 68 miles
(one of my sons and I took a wrong turn and by the time we realized that and found our way back it added 4
miles to our journey). It was kids' personal longest ride and we couldn't have found a better cause and to
represent the best people - ALL OF YOU!
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Here are a few pictures at 25mi, finish, and 30 seconds after we got into the car:
https://plus.google.com/photos/110518603837060989855/albums/5750198673712873953?authkey=CLr2w_3o
qd6uQw
2012-06-04 13:07:52 Breaking news, from my inarticulate palate... last year, many 07 Baroli were tasting so accessible and smooth
upon release i was a very happy man... i just re-tasted three 07s (Marcarini La Serra, Einaudi Terlo, Coterno
Fantino VdG) and found them all LESS accessible, less tasty, than they were upon release last year. Too much
sour tart cherries and more acidic now than before. Fascinating, in just 9 months... Just a phase, according to
the importer that was pouring...
I also tasted the 08 of each of these wines, and i think there is more long term promise in 08s than 07s... more
"stuff" all around, but will need more time to come together, so to speak. 07s will probably get back on course
within next 5-10 years and be great... but i would hold 08s longer... i find just about any Barolo needs approx. 10
yrs to really START to be ready to open, and i was hoping 07s might provide a shorter window there, but maybe
not.
BTW, the Marcarini is a great value... but the Einaudi basic bottling Terlo is tops from that tasting for me.
To me...Marcarini tastes more old school/traditional styled, CFantino is more new style (more barrique/oak and
resulting stronger vanilla hints), and Einaudi is the tweener...
Note: The above reflects the opinions of Bdude only and contains gross generalizations of two Barolo vintages
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2012-06-04 13:09:50 @mr21cbs: Congratulations to you and to your sons on their longest ride and for supporting a great cause!
26042 BaroloDude
2012-06-04 13:10:23 @McM: I have never tasted that M Chiarlo bottling of Barolo. I have not been overly impressed with any others
i have tasted from that maker either. Sorry i cannot add more.
2012-06-04 13:16:58 @mr21cbs: Nothing like an immediate nap after a long ride! great photos.
@BaroloDude: As one inarticulate palate to another: Based solely on my Friday nite 2007 Cavalier Bartolomo
Barolo, I would agree with your assessment of the 2007 vintage. I will say, however, that the last glass, which
had been in the decanter about 4 hours was pretty balanced and delicious.
2012-06-04 13:28:51 hey Ludds... Cal playing at Buckeyes on SEP 15th... prepare to crush the Bears. We will stink this year. :-(
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2012-06-04 14:56:57 Michael: Thanks for the great photos of you and your fine looking twins, and congrats to all for completing such a
ride! Now you might start thinking about participating in one of the European bike tours offered by
bikesherpa.com and numerous other tour companies. You might even be able to take your boys on a tour of
your homeland. For a tour closer to home, I have heard great things about the biking/hospitality on Prince
Edward Island, where numerous residents invite small family groups to eat/spend the night.
26047 mr21cbs
2012-06-04 15:12:13 Thank you, Everyone, for the kind words.
Wine Magnet, that's a great idea. Perhaps next year as this summer is getting pretty full with all of the
swimming, biking and triathlon events. Plus I would want them to be a bit more mature and appreciate the
scenery.
2012-06-04 17:04:37 Perhaps I missed earlier news about Lot 18, a site a number of us were high on less than 2 years ago, but I just
saw this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/layoffs-at-lot18-20126?nr_email_referer=1&utm_source=Triggermail&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Business%20In
sider%20Select&utm_campaign=Business%20Insider%20Select%202012-06-04
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I have not seen anything especially exciting from them for perhaps a year, so they may have run out of sources
for the early good deals (supplemented by credits, etc.). I hope lastbottle.com sticks around, as they have come
up with some pretty astounding deals, IMHO.
2012-06-04 17:22:08 @BD thanks for your thoughts. Chateau has another one up today at 34.97, free shipping on 6. 2007 Fontana
Fredda Barolo di Serralunga. Familiar with this one?
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2012-06-04 17:47:57 Yep, but not had the 07... i have not been a big fan of this maker's Serralunga basic offering...but likely because i
have not had an aged bottle... Serralunga Barolo tends to be a bit harsher when young than Barolos from other
communes, i don't know exactly why... I haven't had many "higher end Serralungas" (from Lazzarito vineyard for
example) to figure out if its something about the soil or microclimate of the whole Serralunga area or just where
FontanaFredda sources its basic Barolo grapes... I do like one or two La Serras... but thats not enough data to
say
if you have the patience why not try a bottle... KLwines.com search for comments on it (check box for out of
stock items)... (or cellartracker fo course).... but you will need to likely sit on it for years... decanting for hours
just doesn't do it for me to compensate...
Maybe Joe G can help here?
Interesting 2008 Barolo on Garagiste. Juice boxes and Magnums only.
I've had the 2001 and 2003 Fontanafredda Serralunga. Its a decent base bottling - I didn't feel that it was one
that was built for the long haul. Drinking at age 10 seemed about right. Cindy has had at least the 03' before @
$30 if I remember correctly. 07' should also be a bit earlier drinking than usual although I have only had a
handful.
@louas... that is GREAT barolo... but you HAVE TO age it. Do not commit vin-fanticide with that.
Wine Magnet, I have not had great success with Lot18, and much like you have not bought anything from them
for a long time. They do not ship to my state, many wines are unknown and lack reviews, those that I had had
were OK but not worth the money. As far as the credits were concerned, those artificial discounts could not last
long and at some point it had to blow up.
I do hope that lastbottlewine.com will succeed and stay in business, as they are getting some of my business,
although much less as of late due to the summer heat, overstocked cellar and lack of funds.
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2012-06-04 19:10:39
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2012-06-04 20:13:43 back from Albany.........nothing more moving than an Irish funeral except for also hearing "Taps" and watching a
loving wife of 44 years receive the American Flag as tribute and honor to her husband.............these are the
moments that show us how truly grand the gift of life is and how fleeting it can be ........make the most of it, I
know I am......................thanks for the kind words Inmates...............time to raise a glass to a man many are better
for having known............
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2012-06-05 11:05:25 Was reading an e-mail from Wine Exchange and they referenced the variation of Wine Advocate scores for the
2008 Conn Valley Eloge. Since I bought some, it got my attention. Parker initially rated it 96 – 98 (I assume
barrel). Galloni then rated it 91 (I assume bottle). That got me curious as to how some of the retailers I frequent
report the scores:
Winex shows it as 91 (no mention of the earlier Parker score).
Wine Library shows it as 91 (no mention of the earlier Parker score).
JJB shows no rating at all.
Empire shows only the 96 – 98 Parker score.
2012-06-05 13:00:24 John o' - Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Will update site.
2012-06-05 21:42:50 barolodude.. not a big fan of fontannafredda wines.. the big difference in vineyards that you are talking about
has some to do with microclimates, but mostly soil composition... on the western side where the la morra and
barolo proper vineyards are there is a denser, more fertile substrate reffered to as tortonian soils.. the eastern
side made up of serralunga, castiglione falleto and monforte are very non-fertile matrixes known as helvetian
soil... this leads to the left side being more feminine and floral where many of the wines from the helvetian soils
are more masculine, tannic, and need more time in bottle
2012-06-06 09:09:45 Pazo de Senorans 2010 Albarino we talked about last week now available at Empirewine.com/4free
2012-06-06 10:30:07 JJB 2005 Reignac for $16. Outstanding deal.
2012-06-06 11:33:12 53 cents cheaper than The Temple, I'm easily bought.
Thanks Adam, Great Albarino.
2012-06-06 13:39:15 JJB PCP on the '05 Reignac is even lower!
2012-06-06 13:48:03 JohnO: Agreed. The JJ Buckley deal is outstanding. Big thumbs up QPR.
2012-06-06 13:48:47 @Ludds
yep, got the lower price on my 2 cases. Both prices are outstanding.
This is a wine that our resident French oenophile recommended from somewhere (name escapes me) when it
was about $25.
2012-06-06 14:05:15 Joe G or BaroloDude: 2004 - Serradenari Barolo for $26- thumbs up or down?
2012-06-06 14:13:17 @joe G... mille grazie!
2012-06-06 15:55:14 @john 'o: Congrats on your 2 cases! Did you go for the original wooden cases? The TH archive indicates that
you cleaned out the last 9 bottles from Suburban Wines @ $22 much to the dismay of @Knurd :D
2012-06-06 16:05:12 @Ludds - No, didn't know OWC was an option.
@Knurd - sorry for bogarting the original offer.
2012-06-07 10:34:12 cbs... never heard of that producer but if you can get one why not try it? even if it is solid, yet unspectacular, it is
a great value for the region
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2012-06-07 13:30:00 Joe G, thanks. I wanted to know whether to get 1-2 or look for more. Usually what is discounted that heavily,
there is a reason, so it was worth asking.
~
On a separate note, any thoughts on the EmpireShip4: Falesco 'Marciliano' Cabernet Blend IGT 2005, $24?
26108 john o'
2012-06-07 13:42:14 @cbs - The Empire deal looks really good. Next lowest price on Cellar Tracker is about $40. This was a Garagiste
deal at one time and Jon's letter is on CT.
I'm in w/ a mini vertical with the 2007 WL has been pushing.
2012-06-07 14:03:22 John O', I went in on the 2005 Falesco ‘Marciliano’, thanks for the nudge!
2012-06-07 17:16:08 @BD and other Barolo lovers: recieved an email from K&L offering 2000-2007 Aldo Conterno Barolos at
various prices. Are favorites here that I shold consider?
2012-06-07 18:40:02 @McMalbec....both grand bussias
2012-06-07 19:36:18 Just received a pair of tickets for Roger Waters performance of The Wall in Albany , NY ! Can't wait to check that
out......................
2012-06-07 19:41:32 What a great %&^*& voice.........................
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26113 McMalbec
26115 johnR
26116 TonyO
26117 TonyO
26118 TonyO
26120 BuffaloLou
26121 BuffaloLou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVlWYxIR3JY&feature=related
2012-06-07 21:50:21 2007 Bogle Phantom.............decent at best
2012-06-07 23:28:26 @TO - Hmmm... The Phantom went over well on the forum. Can't say that I've tried it, so I don't know. I have
had Bogle's Petite Sirah years ago. It was a fruit bomb, simple and one dimensional, but at the time it was only
$9.99/bottle when purchased by the case, so it wasn't a terrible deal.
2012-06-07 23:29:47
<a href="http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=757299" rel="nofollow">2006 Buty Columbia
Rediviva Phinny Hill Vineyard</a> - USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Horse Heaven Hills (6/7/2012)
Delicious wine! Spices and cherries on the nose with a hint of black jack pipe tobacco. Also some 'cherry cordials'
on the nose. More cherries and pipe tobacco on the palate. Nice acidity. Drinking beautifully now, but should age
well, too.
This was a killer deal on Lot 18 a year ago. After voucher discounts, it was about $19/bottle! Killer QPR! (92
points)
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2012-06-08 12:11:20 Planning a trip to Niagara Falls June 21-24. BuffaloLou, Joe G, et al any recommendations on local places to see,
eat, drink? Coming with relatively well behaving kids, however if you would like to get together do let me know.
Our schedule is pretty flexible and this will be a get away from work, school, practices, etc. weekend. Thanks!
26136 BaroloDude
2012-06-08 19:58:58 definitely the Gran Bussias... per JohnR recommendation... buy quality not quantity here. these are special
occasion Barolos from AC.\
2012-06-09 12:50:12 I think the Cicalas and Colonnellos are buys. I did.
2012-06-10 00:15:49 Pizza nite on the pizzafied weber grill tonite. Maybe later this weekend Mr21cbs will post the foto I sent him of
the Chorizo and egg pizza we made. Ridiculously delicious.
Two terrific wines tonite: 200o Caravina from the temple I think $20. Big berries right on the pnp. Just got
better and better.
Also from garagiste, a 2007 Beresan CS from Walla Walla Valley. $17. Big bold and beautiful. In a couple of years
this will be spectacular.
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26162 BrunelloBob
26163 McMalbec
26168 McMalbec
Lebron vs. the Durantula: Any predictions?
2012-06-10 12:06:23 For you Midwest graybeards, spent an enjoyable evening last night with REO Speedwagon. Like many 70s bands,
their concerts have a family reunion feel to them. They are heading east, Inmates, with a concert in Columbus
Ohio and Mets stadium coming up shortly.
2012-06-10 12:25:56 McMalbec: Dubuque, IA?
I was just there Tues-Thursday...Whole town was all excited about the pending concert...
2012-06-10 13:02:50 @BB: Yes, in the Crescent City! We live about an hour and ahalf west so it was an easy drive last night.
26170 David T
2012-06-10 21:58:24 @ BB: In the Days of their Youth, Riding the Storm Out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=717xSGLnLWc
2012-06-10 22:45:45 No kidding, I just drove through Dubuque yesterday afternoon heading back from visiting family in WI/MN the
past few days. Had we planned the timing a bit better we could have a friggin' Iowa TH offline :p What are the
odds three inmates would have escaped to the same middle of nowhere midwest town in the same week?!?
26173 BrunelloBob
26175 vinmoet
2012-06-11 06:14:55 Philadelphia's got nothin' on Dubuque IA :lol:
2012-06-11 11:42:43 So, what's your favorite QPR off of this list?
26176 NaH
http://flickingerwines.com/offerinventory.asp?offer=1382
2012-06-11 13:56:28 BB
26177 BrunelloBob
Them's are FIGHTIN' WORDS! Hahaha
2012-06-11 14:59:13 Meet me in Dubuque and say that! :lol:
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2012-06-11 17:03:03 REO is playing Met's Stadium ? Good God, who else is on that bill ???
2012-06-11 18:33:54 @TO: I neglected to ask Kevin but will let you know.
Opening group in Dubuque was Starship, the band. I was pleasantly surprised.
2012-06-11 22:41:45 REO and Starship............you are going to give BaroloDude nightmares !!!!!
2012-06-12 08:43:35 i am ill. Put Journey and foreigner in there just to complete the BANDS FROM HELL -apalooza.
McM...there may not be any hope for you ;-) You better open some good wine fast to get the taste of WE
BUILT THIS CITY out of your mouth.
I hate that band and that song and i am an SF native.
Maybe REO is playing shortstop...
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26219 mr21cbs
Hoping to find some interesting Portuguese wines here in Lisbon all week.
2012-06-12 10:27:24 I heard REO SpeedWagon is playing in Lisbon this week.....
Coincidence?.....
hmmmmmmmmmm.........
2012-06-12 15:50:25 Congratulations to the LA Kings, I guess the traded Flyers were not as bad as we were let to believe. Good for
them.
~
Where is everybody? I understand that NY Pete and the rest of the NJ Devils fans are grieving the @$$ kicking by
the LA Kings, but the rest of the asylum should be alive...
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2012-06-12 16:09:13 Hi THWTC members,
Andrew Will Winery is happy to offer you our 2009 Annie Camarda Syrah.
This wine is $30 per bottle and we are giving THWTC members FREE
SHIPPING.
As one of Washington's top producers, we are known for our Bordeaux
style blends but we made 91 cases of this 100% Syrah from the Champoux
Vineyard in the Horse Heaven Hills. The wine is named to honor AW
winemaker Chris Camarda's late wife Annie. Like Annie, the wine is
earthy, floral and lovely. Although not 6'4" it comes close.
You can go to our website andrewwill.com and in the ORDER page,
enter the code th to receive FREE SHIPPING. We will have this up for 24 hours.
As a new tasting group member, I look forward to joining the
discussion about rock n roll, wine and everything in between.
26221 BrunelloBob
26222 BaroloDude
Celia/Andrew Will Winery
2012-06-12 16:12:35 Everyone's in Dubuque...
2012-06-12 16:14:48 before i left on the trip...
2004 Talenti BdM is tasting mighty fine right now... elegant, all sorts of the right aromas and palate, but not a
monster, just right...and probably could even wait a lot longer in bottle before opening, but i had to have one.
Wish i had bought more.
BBob, you busted me. I am a backstage tech for REO SPudwagon. I can tune a piano but i can't tuna fish.
I see the Paleo 07 is still in stock in the 200wine sale... i guess when they said "THIS ONE WILL SELL OUT" a
month or so ago, they were just kidding.
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2012-06-12 16:21:10 Hi Celia, welcome to TH.
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Your post and the image of your wine can be seen here: http://www.tremblinghillswinetasters.com/couponsand-codes
2012-06-12 16:22:44 Talenti: One of the best but yeah, you should have waited another 5 years.
I had a 1995 Talenti 4-5 years ago that was one of the best Brunello I've ever had.
("tuna fish" NICE!)
2012-06-12 16:38:07 If there is music in Hell it would be: Flock of Seagulls, Haircut 100, Kaja Goo Goo (spelled wrong and damn proud I
do not know the proper spelling of that horrific "band"), and possibly a surprise entry, Supertramp...............Oh
Lucifer, Prince of Darkness, please take my hearing now...................and while your are at , is there anything
being poured here besides this horrific ______________________ (you kow, that infamous "mountain grown"
syrah from Italy.......
P.S. Great response BaroloDude !
2012-06-12 17:37:21 OK, I grew up in the birth place of REO. I've been to many an REO concert. Just don't think I could do it again.
Guess I'm in that old man into jazz mode and am not looking back. Plus, don't think I could handle listening to an
elderly version of what I remember from my youth. Come to think of it, at age 19 I hit a metal band wall and
really never looked back.
In small amounts, I don't mind reliving the early 80's British pop bands including Haircut 100 (Love Plus One, Boy
Meets Girl, Nobody's Fool & Fantastic Day), Kajagoogoo (write as one word), and Flock of Seagulls. But
again, only in small amounts. Studio pop has a limited place in my heart.
Remember Bow Wow Wow? I danced with the lead singer when they played a college bar. I did not know it, but
she was under 18 at the time. She was so energetic that she danced with us between sets. I saw Berlin, The
Pretenders, B-52's (with their first album), Oingo Boingo, The Cars, Talking Heads, The Romantics, Devo and a
bunch of smaller bands. Great period for music and a blast being young and out and about.
Now, give me a bottle of great wine or a Dixie Beer and some Dixieland jazz and I'm happy.
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2012-06-12 18:18:36 Am I an Idiot (OK, Yes, but you know what I mean).
I'm not seeing the Annie Camarda Syrah on the website. Sold out?
And NAH, WTF is the deal with the non-existent CT tasting note? Lazy pigeater...
26229 TonyO
And T.O.: I kid you not: I saw "Washington Syrah", and my first thought was "another cold climate Les Cretes..."
:lol:
2012-06-12 18:43:38 @Vinmoet: Do I remember Bow Wow Wow ? Well, I actually had Annabelle and band (I believe that is here
name or close to it) on the "Hell" list and replaced them with Flock !
@BB: Love it !
I sadly admit to having witnessed REO live twice.....once at SPAC (Saratoga) with a near record crowd of 32,000
(must have been around the Hi-Indelity era) and again at the local fair...........my daughter, about 8 at the time
kept asking if Kevin Cronin was a girl because he "sings like a girl"......yikes
26231 NaH
2012-06-12 21:50:08 @BBob. Sorry for the CT score only. I usually enter a score then go back and write the tasting notes due to
limited time.
As for the wine offer from Andrew Will. You have to join the mailing list. You'll get a user name and password
very fast. Go to the ORDER section. Sign in and use TH as the offer code, it works.
I recently visited Seattle. Actually, last week. Met Celia when I went to check out Andrew Will winery. She was a
most gracious host, showing me the winery, serving me barrel samples of the 2011 vintage. Even opening 3
bottles of wine and providing lunch inside the owners home.
I told her how I'm not a fan of joining wineries clubs since they offer perks I will never use- like VIP tasting parties
at the winery, etc. I would rather get FREE SHIPPING and/ or discounted pricing. She liked the idea. I told her to
try the offer here on TH.
The wine is a beautiful Syrah from 2009, a great vintage. The nose is floral with that brambly blackberry aroma. In
the mouth it has great acidity, silky tannins with just a bit of bite. Blackberry, plum and a bit of roasted meat lead
to a great ending.
I hope Celia/Andrew Will winery offer more deals for us. My hope is that many more follow their lead and post
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2012-06-12 22:22:38 @Celia ~ Welcome to The Hills .......... rules......no sharp pointy objects.......slip on shoes only..........see Nurse
Ratchet for daily meds!
Wonderful things come from Horse Heaven Hills!!
Wine selection looks great...........title selection on 'Bill to' page is one of the best I've seen.......Ambassador,
Captain, Chef, Dr., Dr. and Mrs., Hon, Mr., Mr. and Mrs., Mr., Ms, The Honorable.............might I suggest a few
more?..........Sir, Kommander, Chief, Foot Model, Nurse,...etc.
The wine sounds great.....thanks for the offer!
26239 BrunelloBob
26244 Phredd
26247 NaH
2012-06-13 06:20:45 Now THAT'S a tadting note. Thanks "Ambassador".
And thanks Celia for the offer!
2012-06-13 11:35:57 I met Celia when she came to NoVA for a tasting of Andrew Will wines at my LWS. We got into quite a
conversation about social media and how it could be helpful to small wineries to get the word out. She also made
the same offer to my FB Winos group, and I bought 3 bottles. Did anyone here go for the deal? These are the sort
of opportunities we hoped to be able to get and take advantage of. If they do well, hopefully we'll see more of
them.
2012-06-13 11:43:30 Guess I was too slow on Andrew Will. I get the message: "We're sorry, but there aren't any offers available for
purchase at this time. ..." Probably all for the best, if somewhat disappointing. I guess I need to keep up to date
here in the Hills.
2012-06-13 12:14:13 @Phredd
I'll contact Celia to let her know that it's not avail. I just tried to log on and it gave me the same message.
I did send her an email to extend the sale to 48 or 72 hours, the reason being just what you said, many don't
check the boards everyday.
Jim
26248 Celia
2012-06-13 12:28:25 Hi Guys,
I extended the Andrew Will 2009 Annie Camarda Syrah offer so you should be good to go. Sorry for the
premature closing. Order away.
The Right Honorable, Celia
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2012-06-13 13:08:50 Thank you Celia!
Hey guys, GV is hawking Airtime acknowledging he's an investor. Have trouble getting what it does and
connecting that to what anyone needs. Saw this piece:
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-06-05/tech/tech_innovation_airtime-failure_1_video-chat-chatroulette-oliviamunn?_s=PM:TECH
26250 Phredd
26251 Scott W
Anyone familiar with this and can add insight?
2012-06-13 13:14:33 Awesome, Celia, thanks. Order placed. Looking forward to finally giving Andrew Will a try. I appreciate the extra
effort.
2012-06-13 13:45:49 Thank you Celia and NaH for setting this up, also excited to try Andrew Will's wines for the first time.
@BB finally picked up my Pazo de Señorans Albariño from K@L wife and I loved it! Thanks
Now if Empire would repeat that deal I will be all in for summer :)
26253 mr21cbs
26254 BrunelloBob
26257 Phredd
2012-06-13 13:58:40 Unfortunately I am out of luck as Andrew Will does not ship to PA.
2012-06-13 14:14:40 Careful Julius: joeg gets all excited about QPR recs that score 86 points on CellarTracker...
x
@Scott: Glad you liked it. 2010 or 2011 vintage? I haven't had the 2011 yet, but I think it's out.
2012-06-13 14:27:41 mr21cbs- Call and talk to Wendy. My order hasn't shipped yet, make sure you have yours shipped to me with my
order.
2012-06-13 14:33:44 Enabler Sheila is on call...for which we all thank you, of course!
2012-06-13 14:35:42 Have wine, will deliver! You should know- right, Adam? ;-)
26259 Scott W
2012-06-13 15:19:48 @BB it was the 2010 it had a lot going on compared to the Albariño's I have had.
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2012-06-13 15:25:55 The Vashon ferry’s down today,
Doo-da, Doo-da
The islands wine is good they say,
Oh, de doo-da day
Goin' to swim all night
Goin' to swim all day
I bet my money on a Champoux Syrah,
But shipping I won’t pay.
Caught me a ride on a Orca’s tail,
Doo-da, doo-da
Andrew Will had a one day sale.
Oh, de doo-da day
Goin' to swim all night
Goin' to swim all day
I bet my money on a Champoux Syrah,
But shipping I won’t pay.
Celia joined the Trembling Hills with offers up her sleeves,
Doo-da, doo-da
Saved a long swim in Puget Sound to save on shipping fees.
Oh, de doo-da day
26261 NaH
Don’t have to swim all night
Don’t have to swim all day
h
2012-06-13 15:43:37 @AFK. BRILLIANT
h
@MR21CBS. They don't ship to PA, but they will ship to ME. I will provide you with my address if interested
26262 mr21cbs
2012-06-13 15:52:22 NaH and WiM thank you for your offers. We are all set with the 2009 Annie Camarda Syrah and my bottles will be
shipped when the weather gets cooler.
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2012-06-13 19:42:43 Drinking wine with Celia out on my front porch
When I got back to drink A Frayed Knot had taken my place
Celia you are bringing it from the start....
You're giving us shipping fairly
.....wait I am not AFK just a hack ... "Brooks is a Hack" B squared circa 2011
Sweet tune...AFK...I hope all is well with new initiatives
tell me where do the winos play....hey hey hey
on Amtrack trying to use up all the bandwith ... I am miles from somewhere...
Still sorting out the obligations I need to sort out... it will take some time oh yeah
Rarely get to enjoy wine as I may need to drive on short notice...
Call Ripleys UBC did it!!!!
He got a speedy ticket last year May ......he presents an arguement in court it was a one time lapse of
judgement..; ) ..Asks the court if he does not get another violation....at fault accident and gets justs As and Bs for
one year in college would the court drop the charges...
The official asks me...what was UBCs GPA last semester of senior year...2.0.... B C C C D ... like the Cubs winning 5
world series in a row.
My business partner is getting married this saturday at 40 and heading to Napa for Honeymoon....some guys
2012-06-13 20:43:58 You're still a "hack" Brooksie, but we love ya!
2012-06-13 20:44:35 BROOKS How is life going? We missed you at the Philly Offline!! Hope all is well
2012-06-13 21:14:15 You guys are shakin' my confidence lately.
Thanks for a great day of fun. Heading home to enjoy a glass of wine.
Celia
2012-06-13 21:17:05 Celia's a tease: What kinda wine Girl?
We expect great things from someone with your "provenance". :lol:
2012-06-13 21:49:23 Maybe they'll build a "bridge over the troubled waters" between Seattle and Vashon Island and I'll no longer
have to hitch a ride on a whale when the ferry is down!
Welcome back Sir Brooks!
2012-06-14 11:02:34 Scott W - How much more of the Senorans were you looking for? Thanks.
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2012-06-14 18:17:13 Been very hectic of late, so I'm catching up...
@cbs - Would love to meet up if we can. Let me check with the Mrs and I will advise. I am not familiar with
many restaurants in NF. Joe is probably 25-30 minutes South of NF, and I'm about 40 min South of Joe.
@Celia - Welcome and thank you for the offer!
@TO - Good call with Supertramp.
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26287 joe g
26288 vinmoet
2012-06-15 00:49:48 Well, this inmate escaped the asylum and is currently in San Pedro Sula, Honduras! No wine for the next week
but the second half of the trip we're staying at a brewery so plenty of beer. We should have internet access most
of the trip so I can monitor those still institutionalized remotely :P
2012-06-15 11:18:18 cbs... i 2nd the meet up
2012-06-15 11:25:31 The Italians have their priorities straight...cheese angels:
26310 vinmoet
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303734204577466621207745702.html?mod=WSJ_hps_Photos
Module_1#slide/1
2012-06-17 08:14:46 Talk about quiet this weekend! Anybody out there?
To all of us dads out there, HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!!! And, to those who want you to drink Merlot today, just
remember to say "If anybody orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am not drinking any %&$*#@& Merlot." Its
your day...drink what you want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiOuroHPxRQ&feature=related
Gonna watch it later.
Just in case you need some wine tasting instruction...
26311 NaH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3R1prb0_1o&feature=related
2012-06-17 09:04:35 VINNY
That Borat scene is THE FUNNIEST! I cry with laughter every time I want his movies.
Happy Father's Day to everyone!
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2012-06-17 14:53:57 Spending this father's day weekend at Bucknell for a USA Swimming competition. Nice facility, great weather, ok
food...
Happy Father's Day to you dads!
2012-06-18 21:58:39 Happy belated Father's Day. Although my father and father-in-law have been gone for about 10 years now, this
was the first year I greeted my son as a new father.
I was in Colorado Springs last week on business with little time to check our discussion. Driving back yesterday,
the temperatures in western Colorado and eastern Nebraska were hovering at about 103°F. Passing UPS and
FedEx tandem semi's, I sure hoped that no one's wine was heading east in those trailers!
2012-06-19 07:06:51
2012-06-19 07:52:48
2012-06-19 09:21:58
2012-06-19 12:21:39
2012-06-19 13:40:54
2012-06-19 22:13:24
Testing. Is this thing on?
Test--3rd computer
BrunelloBob, we can see you!!!
Vinemoet - Great QPR on the Michel Gassier Nostre Pais. I drink it at least once a week.
and Adam is talking about the Magnum sized bottle.
We are celebrating National Martini Day with birdbath sized Hendrick's Gin Martinis. Hope this doesn't affect
tomorrow's golf game. After all the temp is only expected to be 106! 5% humidity right now. Dry even for here.
Sorry for the late notice re: National Martini Day.
2012-06-20 14:40:08 Did anybody score the Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche Vieilles Vignes 2009 Magnum deal on Last Bottle? It was
a bit out of my price range at $995, but the shipping was free
2012-06-20 18:57:57 102 degrees in the car today...It may be time to put away the reds for the summer.... :(
2012-06-20 19:27:45 Something for BarolDude to erase the memeory of the chorus from "we built this city"......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0NOHeAHx6I
2012-06-20 21:09:57 @BB: You may be right! Muscadet here tonite!
2012-06-20 21:12:40 Blowing through the Sancerre in Connecticut...
Gotta do more with Moscato...
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2012-06-21 12:22:34 dine with swine and wine
playing life on the back nine
did not read the sign
too rigged to fail stocks
too broken to mend our nests
saving cash for reds
I guess that I just dont know how it all unfolds
but keep an eye on the exit doors as it rolls.
Promises are just too important to keep
But my challanges are much too steep
26360 TonyO
26362 BrunelloBob
26363 vinmoet
I beg your pardon, is there an offline?
i'm travelling to the NYC mainline
hey did someone say an offline?
hell I will make it in a bee line
2012-06-21 12:47:05 heading to Florida to escape the Vermont heat.................but before I go, I just stopped at a local hot dog cart
and the greatest sausage ever (twss....)....homemade sausage with Jasper Hill Blue Cheese crumbles and
bacon..........Vytorin I love You for allowing such indulgences...wow that was amazing.......time to pack some vino
in the suitcase....keep it under 50 (pounds that is .........)
2012-06-21 13:32:01 Nice cab blend on WTSO
2012-06-21 13:37:33 I had the Tavel QPR Sunday for father's day lunch. Mrs. V made a tomato cheese basil tart. The two together
were unbelievable. Really the best of summer. Of course, father's day dinner was no slouch either. Coq au vin
made with the '07 E. Guigal CDR which is a QPR around here served with a '00 Beaucastel CDP.
Anyway, here's the recipe for the Tart:
http://www.recipelink.com/cookbooks/2002/0767907701_3.html
26364 mr21cbs
2012-06-21 13:43:16 BrunelloBob, I went in on the 2003 Bremer Family Winery Howell Mountain Napa Valley Claret. Sounded very
nice and the CT notes were supportive. I won't see it for a while due to heat, but that's fine with me.
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2012-06-21 13:51:09 11 more posts and we will be at 21212 fwiw
Sancerrely yours,
- BD
2012-06-21 15:26:42 Tony O: Where, pray tell, will you be in FL? Should you be close to St. Petersburg, you would be welcome at our
weekly Sat 2:30-4:30 afternoon tasting as well as perhaps an offline w/some dinner and wine that day or any
other. I am very flexible when it comes to getting together with wine/food lovers, and have several restaurants
with no or very low corkage charges. I will be making a whirlwind trip to Orlando early Sat, but should return by
Noon or so.
2012-06-21 17:52:50 @winemagnet: Amelia Isalnd (Jacksonville area)....how far to St. Petersburg ?
2012-06-21 20:39:40 I see that Rose and always think of Dr. David Tavel. Too bad it isn't a Reisling.
Things are quiet here in Indiana. The Dudes on the Porch bid farewell to Dude Mike, who is moving to Evansville.
We enjoyed the following:
2008 Cooper Mountain Mountain Terroir Pinot Noir
2005 Bodegas Lan Reserva Rioja
200? Tikal Patriota (Bonarda/Malbec blend)
No tasting notes as we merely enjoyed one another's company.
26372 wine magnet
26375 mr21cbs
26377 David T
ptaylor2112
2012-06-21 20:53:33 Tony O: Amelia Island is probably 3+ hours from St. Pete. We are 10 minutes West of Tampa's West side. The
weather at Amelia should be cooler than on the mainland, but it will still probably be in the high 80s/low 90s
unless it is cloudy/rainy.. It will be breezier there than here, where the temps will likely be close to the same.
2012-06-22 08:57:03 Joe G and BuffaloLou, our visit to the Buffalo area has been postponed until later in the summer. My boys finally
decided to race and qualified in a number of events for the swimming Junior Olympics in long course. Getting
them away from the pool even for a couple of days is not the best option at this point. Their JO is July 26-29,
after which we will look for much needed rest. I will definitely keep you posted and would love to meet. Have a
great summer!
2012-06-22 11:46:11 @mr Keep me in the loop for when you make your trip to Buffalo/Niagara Falls, it's a very short drive from
Cleveland & I would love to meet up again as well!
Congrats and best of luck to your kids with the Jr Olympics!
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2012-06-22 12:14:31 DavidT, will do! I would love to get together, if you can tolerate pretty active, but well behaved boys. They don't
drink wine yet, just sniff, but sure can eat. Have a nice weekend!
2012-06-22 13:18:56 @mr21cbs: Congratulations to your sons! They continue to impress! Best wishes for a fun and successful JO!
26384 vinmoet
2012-06-22 17:36:35 Being the good dad that I am I bought tickets to the new Pixar film, Brave. Kids are excited. Me, just glad to hang
out with them probably not as keen on the movie itself. Will reheat the coq au vin from Father's Day before we
go out. Have another Kermit Lynch wine to try. Then let my designated driver take us to the movie and I'll either
like it or have a good nap. A win win either way.
26392 wine magnet
2012-06-23 09:04:44 mr21cbs: Ah, the good old days of JOs, including running thehhough it was yesterday, even though it has been
20+ years since I last worked a JO meet. Good luck to your boys, the discipline of swim training will prepare
them well for endless challenges in life which their non-swimming contemporaries will find hopelessly daunting.
Vinny: What new Kermit Lynch selection are you preparing to consume? I am one of his biggest fans and have
found many unbelievable QPRs amongst his imports. One of the most notable have been several Chateau de
Perron Madirans, which have matured into Bordeaux-like wines after 10+ years. Alas, I am down to 4 bottles of
their last vintage, 2001, having long ago consumed those from earlier years.
26393 mr21cbs
2012-06-23 14:19:58 21212!
Wine Magnet, sometimes we are dead tired of driving them to practices and meets, most of the time we are very
happy and impressed by their results, many times we are all frustrated by the missed opportunities when every
hundredth of a second counts. All in all they are awesome kids and swimming, indeed, makes them strong
physically and emotionally, as well as independent, disciplined, and focused. One of the interesting observations
that I had was that they are expecting everyone to be that fit (boys and girls), which is scary especially when it
comes to "their non-swimming contemporaries".
On the wine front, had a good experience with 2008 Epiphany Petite Sirah yesterday. Really enjoyed it after
dinner. One of the better purchases from Lot 18.
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2012-06-23 15:29:11 WM: You are correct sir. Kermit is the bomb. In my constant search for QPR wines for the hills, I am trying the
following over, I hope, the next week to try:
2010 Reverdy Sancerre (white)
2010 Ch.Graville-Lacoste Graves (a white Bordeaux)
Both in that sub $20 range.
I have also been assigned a tasting of a Michael Corso wine, Chateau Margui from Provence. Softest blush I've
seen, not a true rose color. Another sub $20. Have not ever had any of these wines.
All this work tasting for others and I still have to find time to drink my regular red Bordeaux. Its not easy over
here folks. Last night I did not have a Lynch wine after all. I had been asked to taste a couple of lower end Pinots:
2009 Vincent PRunier Pinot Noir Bourgogne: Always a bad indicator when a Burgundian puts the grape on the
label. This is his entry level wine that sells in the sub $20 range. Inexpensive Burgundy does not exist. That said,
I thought that this was very presentable, tasted like Burgundy, had a slightly ethereal mouth feel, bright sour
cherry, decent structure and balance. VM87. Maybe its a QPR, maybe not. At $16 or less, I'd say for sure.
2009 Domaine de Regusse Paues de Alpes de Haute Provence. A Pinot not from Burgundy. Cheap. About
$12.00. Not a drinking wine, it needs food. Cheap wine and tapas? Sour cherry with a slight cough syrup back
drop. Forgive it the synthetic cork. VM81. Not for me, but a good cheap wine pick. Still rather spend more.
26398 vinmoet
2012-06-23 18:57:20 Tasted the Chateau Margui distributed by Michael Corso. Tolerably sweet with minimal fruit. Grassy nose.
Nothing there on the palate. At $8 it would be a perfect party wine for folks who aren't into wine. At $20ish,
major disappointment. 80 VM.
Kids had a swim meet today. I was a timer and did not screw up. Everyone ready for a Saturday night feast.
Now, on to grilled NY strips, garlic mashed potatoes, french (green) lentil salad, french cheese plate and a cherry
tart. Kids picked the menu. Have not decided on the wine, but am either going with a flamboyant modern style
'09 Bordeaux or going the other direction and pulling out an '89 Pauillac, Clerc Milon to be exact. Letting Mrs. V
make the choice.
Hey, where is BLou? Have not seen a post from him for ages.
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2012-06-23 19:19:58 Recommending Sangiovese with the "Italian cherry" tart. (RdM?)
just sayin' :)
2012-06-23 22:36:51 The Name Game
At birth our parents gave us the gift of life and our first name....please state your name_________
When we were little we were surrounded by Mommy, Daddy, Sis, Uncle Al (kiddies pal) Auntie Mildred, Grandma
aka Mimi, Didi, Grammie, and Nana...Grandpa aka, Pop, Poppie, Pap, .....................
When our friends arrived on the scene it was Michael, Matty, Billy, Lil Suzie, Nancy and Tommy
When we got pimples and braces our friends became Mike, Matthew, Bill, Susan, Nan and Tom
It high school we acquired names that were given to us by our friends Mikey the T, Scuz, The Gun, Sue, Cricket
and Murph
Sometime the nicknames were not kind and no need to hear them again
In college all bets were off for our birth names and once again we received new names...Tonka Kid, Boney, the
Swede, Bingo Bob, Speen, Keyboards, Warhight, Chipster, the Fog, Gman, FM, Brooksie, Kel, G cubed, Chicken,
Gorilla and my favorite......... Murtzandstuff.
When we started our careers...our names went back to our birth names.
Now on the web....we have returned to the name game.. only we create our own nicknames. Pretty cool this
time around. Rarely do we seen names like Smelly Ron, Big Ears, Buck Teeth, Duck, Tubby and A$$wipe
Wine Magnet is attracted to all wines while BaroloDude praises the Piedmont juice while BrunelloBob is a Tuscan
lover. Some still love their real names like K is for Kate Joe G and TonyO while others are still linked to their
home town like BuffaloLou and NYPete...
Others created a new world order with names from their imagination Mobius, AfraidKnot, Nursing A Handover,
Waiting In Manassas, WhineBabyWine, Vinmoet, Luddite but from our experience we needed to give nicknames
to the names like WM, NAH, Vinnie, B squared, Prof Luddite...etc.
I guess when we are in nursing homes we will acquire new nicknames that resemble the Disney Dwarfs...Sleepy,
2012-06-24 07:24:42 Brooks, dead on. Thanks for the comment. Seems like its awfully quiet here...I know its summer but hey.
My "handle" was something from pre-posting days and was tied to my original email address. Actually rarely
drink Moet Chandon but that's where the Moet comes from. Probably as much laziness as planned. Seems like
others are much more creative.
Fun stuff.
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2012-06-24 08:08:53 On Cindy they got me thinking about barrel making. The discussion was about how expensive the barrels are.
Thought it would be interesting here and since I'm too lazy to recreate my comments, I rather just clip and paste:
As far as barrel making, I know some folks in the industry there. They are very passionate about what they do.
They are harvesting from forests that were planted for this purpose a few hundred years ago. They know all of
the trees in the forest and project when they, or their grand children, will be harvesting each tree. Then, the tree
is cut into Boards and the wood ages outside for several years. Then starts the labor intensive effort of actually
making the barrels. If you're buying a barrel made there, then think of shipping that barrel from rural France
across the pond to the West Coast. Each step adds plenty of cost.
Here's a link to a serious maker: http://www.seguin-moreau.fr/page.php?lang=gbr
A quick, fairly clever barrel making video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LBGPKgQ2ac
26404 luddite
2012-06-24 10:28:32 @brooks: I encourage you to do more "deep" wine tastings. Some of your funniest stuff gets posted!
luddite now, nursing home name: Covered with Drool :lol:
26406 K is for Kate
2012-06-24 14:48:32 @brooks- Nice name breakdown. I actually disliked my name and kept trying to get people to call me other
things until I got "K is for Kate who was struck with an axe" from Edward Gorey's Gashlycrumb Tinies tattooed on
my arm. I have another online name I use most places, but I didn't want you guys to find my pr0n. ;)
26407 NaH
2012-06-24 16:57:09 VERY FUNNY BROOKS...but it's hanGover. There's no HAND going over anything! LOL
Very true about nicknames. In college I was known as "Jerry's Kid"...think Grateful Dead not Jerry Lewis and the
MDA!!
At work I'm known as PRINCESS...it's PRINCE ASS but when you say it fast, it sounds like princess.
26409 BrunelloBob
26411 brooks
Thank you and have a good night. Don't forget to tip your waitresses...
2012-06-24 20:46:10 “Jerry’s Kid”…That's Good. :lol:
Whatever happened to Castello and his "hippy Lettuce?"
2012-06-24 22:27:51 NAH...spelling only counts in heaven. ;)
Tomorrow the blame game...Part One
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2012-06-25 00:12:41 I love all of our ED nurses as none of them take any $#!% from anyone given some of the patients we see, so they
all can become prince/princess ass on a moment's notice ;)
I'm just David T/David everywhere on and off-line respectively... boring. Or 'Dave' from some but not many. On a
few online sites I'm still ONUMello from when I registered that username during college & now they won't
let me change it, and dRxuggist on Twitter. One of my best friends from high school has always called me 'T!ts'
but that's just him. I'm 'Captain Touch' to another friend ever since a memorable mini-golf game, but again that's
a one-off.
2012-06-25 01:20:18 Kosmos Spoetzl ............... now there's a name..........
disclosure........Shiner Kosmos Reserve............much better than their Prickly Pear (too sweet)
26419 luddite
26420 A Frayed Knot
26422 NY Pete
I am not joking......and don't call me Shirley!
2012-06-25 11:48:56 @AFK: Is your world famous rib-rub about ready to go commercial? Mrs. Luddite has asked me repeatedly to
buy some!
2012-06-25 13:07:46 @Professor ~ Not there yet .......... it also needs a name ........ I have no ideas .......... feel free to suggest a good
one!
2012-06-25 17:20:50 Brooks
You should have crashed the party!
Cheers
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2012-06-25 22:25:58 The Blame Game Part 1
"Officer I really wasn't speeding, I am headed to Nordstroms for my third fitting of my Michael Kors Handbag
with extended shoulder strap and my fashion consultant Meg is going on her third two weeker to the Hamptons
for the fourth time and she is leaving me in 30 minutes"
"My teenage son is a great student who is working hard, he had a couple of innocent beers with friends and I
really don't know what a reading of .24 is anyway that is just being picky?
"My mortgage banker told me that all the beauticians in Bayside were able to buy a $1.5 million upper eastside
condo"
"This is non-fat yougart...you can eat all you want and don't become anymore obese"
This is the real magic phone....I use it all the time and I never get a bill...right dad"
"I thought I was in a Bank of America branch where littering is allowed"
"Everyone else was passing in the no passing zone on 9W so I thought is was legal as long as you were on the cell
phone"
"With God as my witness, I thought parking meters were sun dials...who carries change now a days"
" Orangeberg replace Orange Julius at the Paramus Mall"
"I forgot armed robbery was illegal" (This is post was approved by Mike Barnicle -google if you don't get it)
"Teachers are really not doing the job they are supposed to do but I cant talk about that now as I am heading to
the nail shop"
'I dont know where my son gets off to get hammered drunk and do doughnuts on the town green....I was
enjoying a few brews with my budies down at Hooters"
"The government needs to be doing a better job with the budget...why are my real estate taxes going up
exponentially and services like Vodoo dancing being eliminated"
"Let me stop talking about me...that is rude....what do you think of me?
"The New York Times Metropolitan Diarrhea can be treated"
"Say good night Gracie"
26430 A Frayed Knot
26431 BrunelloBob
26432 luddite
2012-06-26 08:37:52 Things just get curiouser and curiouser........
2012-06-26 09:33:40 "Good-bye, feet!”
2012-06-26 16:04:01 @BLou et al: J&R Music has a contest to win a Warren Haynes autographed guitar!
26433 vinmoet
http://www.facebook.com/JRMusicNYC
2012-06-26 16:27:10 Where is BLOU?
The Chinese continue to move into Bordeaux:
http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/530095/china-s-bright-food-buys-bordeaux-negociant-diva
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Occasionally lurking BBobs. Loving the name game.
CASTELOOOOOOOO!!
The Blame Game Part 2
"I would have loved to attend Sausagefest 2012 Offline but I am low sodium, vegan and gluten free"
"It's not your fault, I am just being a little more selective with the people I drink wine with"
"You are qualified for the job and age has nothing to do with it, but management wants me to hire folks that are
fluent in Urartian"
"If were not for my pet honey badger, I would join you on your trip to Indiana to see the RV/MH Hall of Fame"
"Fifty Shades of Grey is for putzes, we have been playing car keys in the candy bowl for decades"
"If I were not a Gemini, I could live in Yonkers, but the race track forces me to hang out with Capricons"
"I would personally host Chicago Offline 2019 at my estate on May 5th, but the carpets are being steam cleaned
that day"
"Children are the only one's that blush and that life is just to die"
Say good night Soupy
2012-06-27 08:58:03 'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Brooks remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said Be Squared: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
'How do you know I'm mad?' said Brooks.
'You must be,' said Be Squared, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'
2012-06-27 09:04:13 "See AfraidNot over there? He's nutty as a beech tree, Thinks he's Lewis Carroll...." Squared B quipped...
26443 Brooks
2012-06-27 09:54:41 Sanity can not be scientifically measured by say Jujubes...it is subjective and therefore open to debate...speaking
of debate....man in the boat overboard...Offlinegate on the WLTV Boards....makes people forget about high gas
prices or even Kahunagate....I know in all good fun and like reality TV....but where are the creative sitcoms and
plots....But tell me where do the screen writers play
26444 TonyO
2012-06-27 12:27:07 Florida, the "Sunshine State" ? Wow, I have not seen rain like that since the days of Moses..................luckily we
actually did see some sun the first two days and really had a great time catching up with family! Amelia Island /
Fernandina Island are great spots for vacation (downtown Fernandina is a great area for
drinking/eating/shopping etc.). Tonight, it's a Pat Donohue concert (not familiar with him but the owner of the
venue said he is amazing (and the great Chet Atkins agrees) then it's off to Albany for Roger Water's performance
of the wall...........quite a week.............kudos (what old people say instead of "props") to Delta Airlines for 4 flights
that were all on time and comfortable, a rarity in today's air travel world..............gotta catch up on the posts,
looks liek some good ones !!!
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2012-06-27 12:33:36 funny how a simple misunderstanding can get blown way out of proportion.
it is what it is Brooksie.
2012-06-27 15:25:40 Hellllooooo inmates!!!!
2012-06-27 16:16:54 Mrs. Luddite and I are getting ready to head out to La Tasca in Alexandria to meet our daughter and @WiM for
dinner. Only ones missing are @BD and @Flyerfan :( perhaps later this summer...
26449 TonyO
2012-06-27 16:22:00
26450 David T
26451 BrunelloBob
2012-06-27 18:24:30
2012-06-27 18:40:35
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2012-06-27 21:25:10
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@Flyerfan: Welcome back you have been missed. Hope all is well. Last time I "spoke" to you was on your
birthday and you said you would stop by, I just didn't think it would take 3 months :)
Any Inmates in Seattle ? Great looking Owen Roe wine dinner at El Gaucho on 7/27. I won't be in attendance
but if I were in that area I would not miss this one ! If you need details that aren't on the restaurants website, let
me know !
@TO The youngest member of the asylum speaks in kudos and not props...
Are "kudos" like "cooties"?
x
FlyerFan!
H01y Philly!!! Welcome back FF!
Yes
Havens
PhD= Papa has dough
of course
still driving
Bummer Flyers
Yes
20 x 30 feet
a jack hammer
add fresh basil
I got to run but great to hear from all those that are missed....
TonyO you are a champion among men (and mice)
2012-06-27 23:09:39 @Brooks: your praise is well received !
2012-06-28 02:24:23 sorry Ludds i won't be making it out to DC this year. That conference happened two weeks ago, and i was in
Europe at another event. Probably next year i will be back!
2012-06-28 08:53:14 http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/294916_S/home-depot-full-service-restrooms.jpg
Because we all need a little help sometimes!
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2012-06-28 09:59:42 Fattoria Le Pupille 'Saffredi' $43.81 JJBuck PCP
I'm luckwarm on 2008 Italy, but this is a great wine at a great price.
Email your rep if you want this and aren't getting the offer directly.
2012-06-28 10:49:53 The Castello Man
It's nine am on a Thursday
the regular crowd shuffles in
There's a proffesor sitting next to me
Makin' love to his tonic and gin
He says, Son can you play me a memory
I'm not really sure how it goes
But it's sad and it's sweet and I knew it complete
When I could still touch all my toes.
Da da da de de da
da da de de da da da
Sing us a song, you're the Castello man
sing us a song tonight
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody
And you've got us feelin' alright
Now the Dude at the bar is a friend of mine
He helps me get shipping for free
Brooks is quick with the jokes, but he never smokes
And there's someplace that he needs to be
26464 luddite
26465 BrunelloBob
26467 David T
He says Bob, I believe you are killing me
As the smile ran away from his face
ll ' "When hI could still
ld btouch allk my toes." :lol: Those were the days my friend...
2012-06-28 13:14:40 @AFK:
2012-06-28 15:03:04 Brilliant, AFK, BRILLIANT!
2012-06-28 20:00:51 *standing ovation for AFK*
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2012-06-29 07:49:24 :)
An oldie but goodie; a round of orange whips for the table!
Rock Star? I am just the father of the leader of the band.
2012-06-29 17:58:41 ATTN: Reignac Slut Club (RSC)
Wine.com is selling the '05 for $210 a case ($17.50/bottle) and you can get $20 off if you are a Steward-Ship
member ($49 per year for unlimited shipping). Use code TWENTYOFF (expires today 12 PM Pacific time). If you
aren't a Steward-Ship member you can get 1 cent shipping use code 99ONECENT also expires today.
26479 louas
26481 castello
26486 NY Pete
26487 BrunelloBob
26488 John O'
26489 BrunelloBob
26494 Tonyo
26495 BrunelloBob
2012-06-29 21:55:21 Ginormous t-bone pork chops brined and rubbed with an absolutely killer 2007 Meeker Petite Sirah which was a
woot purchase.
Great weekend all and fun 4th!
2012-06-30 00:27:37 Thanks AFK! Very touching welcome. If I get enough grappa, wine and scotch in me I think I can sing like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azw0JvYmj7Q&feature=fvwrel
2012-06-30 17:03:15 Ed, you don't need any booze to sing like Waits ... :)
2012-06-30 18:18:33 @TonyO: I love you, man, but that Hunter III SB SUX!
I was gonna dump the bottle, but Beautiful Wife stepped in and declared it "fine". She's bailing me out on that
bottle tonight. We generally have Very different tastes in whites.
x
Full disclosure: I'm frequently disappointed in Cali SB, and the viognier does nothing for me. I'm more of a fullblooded Marlborough man. ;)
2012-06-30 19:42:10 @ TonyO and BB
Have to agree re the Hunter III. I took the word of the fine gentlemam from the Communist republic of VT and
was pretty disappointed. Marlborough can be very good. SB from Bordeaux with a few years on it (e.g 2007
Doisy-Daene) can be sublime.
2012-06-30 20:36:32 Maybe I can trade Hunter III for a few more Red Sox wins...
2012-07-01 19:50:10 @BB and Irish John: what don't you like about the Hunter III SB? I find it to be refreshing and has nice fruit and
for $11, you can't even get a Bud Lite draft at Fenway ! I guess I am with the ladies on this one ! Everyone wins
at Fenway tonight as Roger Water performs The Wall.....I witnessed this masterpiec in Albany, NY on
Thursday.....un %&^*&( real ! If the show comes near your town, this is spectacular and worth the $$$
!
2012-07-01 20:54:02 T.O.: I would have bet it was oaked. It had this buttery thing going on and it lacked the rip-your face off crispness
of the good NZ stuff. Maybe an age issue...
Tasted like something they'd serve at yankee stadium.
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2012-07-01 22:30:01 @BB: maybe it only taste good while watching a team in 1st place? Bobby V better be renting not buying in
Beantown ! I do agree that the Hunter III is not really a typical SB but I did like it especially with grilled
shrimp/chicken .....
2012-07-02 06:40:51 This inmate and his family were blessed to only lose Internet for 2 days while so many others in the Washington,
DC area lost power (with temps in the mid 90s) and/or had extensive property damage from storms that
unleashed hurricane-force winds across a 500-mile stretch of the mid-Atlantic region. Our thoughts and prayers
are with those who were far less fortunate...
2012-07-02 09:22:15 Tonyo - I saw the Wall at the Times Union Center as well. That was an incredible, totally immersive experience.
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2012-07-02 10:26:42 I am Brooks, a man who fell in love with wine as we all fell in love with Cindy. For nearly three years, I have
shared that love and joy with fellow posters, with near daily wine blogging on WL and Tremblings. Now I bring it
to you.
I think there’s nothing worse than walking into the wine aisle and passing a pickle down your pants leg. Do you
ever have to depend on depends. Do you ever begin to speak in tongues by the Ports....Do you come to the wine
store for some PN and end up marrying the cashier. When Adams greets you at the doors with a pat on your
rump do you bark, roll over and play dead (and I am not talking about Europe 72). And, unfortunately, the wine
industry does very little to help – shiit happens. That’s where I come in. I focus on people who want to love wine
and be the party animal host, but forgot. Do you need to rekindle out the animal spirits?
I am available for in-home wine-tastings, hosting larger functions, such as funerals, massive layoff annoucements
or bapitisms and even to assist in public relations for the wine industry. We are a hoodie-free company. ;)
Fee Schedule:
In-home wine tasting, up to 115 people
•In togas- $200*
•In drag- $250*
•Incognito- $350, plus travel*
•Out of State (not permitted in Utah and Vermont)- Fee negotiated*
*The fees shown here do not include the cost of the wines, costumes, wigs and silver ties but typically starts at
about $100 for each guests. Nudity is not permitted except in rare instances where the event is held in Maine or
New Foundland where guests are bringing their pet moose. Music is always provided but we only play
performers that are no longer with us... (the Captain from Captain and Tennille - dead or alive?)
26508 BrunelloBob
26509 BrunelloBob
26510 vinmoet
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2012-07-02 10:38:26 Brooks:
you dsay, but
2012-07-02 12:30:37 $175 2004 Cristal on Last Bottle. FS2
That's about rock bottom for that juice.
2012-07-02 12:44:16 Brooks: I echo BB. I have no clue what you are saying, but keep saying it my friend, it brings a smile...
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2012-07-02 16:18:19 Last call has an '09 Bordeaux, Chateau Gravelier, for $10.99 delivered. HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THIS IS. If you buy
it, you are buying cheap wine from a good vintage at your own risk.
The wholesale cost is 1.5 Euro or about over $2.00 (here's a link to the collective that sells it:)
http://www.tradeboss.com/default.cgi/action/viewcompanies/companyid/590801/ Then it gets shipped over
to the U.S., stored, and then shipped to you. Am not certain if LCW is forced to buy through an importer
(wholesaler) or if they can do that directly. My point is that its insane to turn grape juice into wine, buy a bottle,
put it in the bottle, cork it, label it, box it and ship it for $2.00. I think its amazing that the same bottle gets
shipped around and to your door for $11.00. That's with bureaucracy and taxes making it hard to do and adding
expense. Quite a system.
2012-07-02 17:29:43 @Adam: the next time I am in the Albany area I will be sure to stop by and say hello.....I know the area well
(graduated from Colonie and Siena).....I'll call first to see if you are around (will be down the end of July for
Santana / Allman Bros.)............glad you got to see that incredible performance !
2012-07-03 13:30:11 Last Bottle 2005 Reignac for $19, FS on six. Looks good according to Searcher. Thoughts?
2012-07-03 14:08:09 @Phredd
The 2005 Reignac is excellent (and from an excellent vintage). Paid about $24 each a while back. recently
bought a case from JJB using preferred client pricing for about $15 / bottle.
At $19, no tax, free delivery, it's a no brainer.
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2012-07-03 14:39:49 This is not rock star wine, but in IMHO is a crazy good QPR.
Parker's notes:
Apr 2008 Robert Parker (90) Drink: N/A $25-$40
Another top-notch effort from the home property of the brilliant Yves Vatelot, Reignac’s 2005 has a dense
ruby/purple color and notes of graphite, black currant, some sweet cherries, and spice box. It is a medium to fullbodied wine with beautiful concentration, decent acidity, and ripe tannin. Despite its humble appellation, this is a
very serious wine that is qualitatively up there with some of the better classified growths of the Medoc. It should
drink beautifully for 8-10 years. A sleeper of the vintage!
Add to Print List
Wine Advocate #170
No tasting note was provided.
26524 BrunelloBob
2012-07-03 14:58:24
26525 mr21cbs
26526 john o'
26527 BrunelloBob
2012-07-03 15:01:02
2012-07-03 15:03:39
2012-07-03 15:05:01
Wine Advocate #164
Possibly the finest Reignac I have ever tasted from proprietor Yves Vatelot, this superlative blend of 75% Merlot
and 25% Cabernet Sauvignon is treated like a spoiled child, aged on its lees, and bottled unfiltered. There are
over 16,000 cases of this cuvee, which should be uncommonly long-lived for a wine of this pedigree. Its dense
ruby/purple color is followed by a sweet nose of blackberries, cherries, smoke, and pain grille. Deep, full-bodied,
Alright, I bought 6.
These better not suck
BrunelloBob remains suspicious of cheap Bordeaux...
I also went in on 6 of Reignac. Thanks for the info...
@BB - If it will make the wine tase better, send me $60.
I'll send you some Hunter III and we'll call it even.... :lol:
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2012-07-03 21:53:29 I bought the '05 Reignac from WL in Feb '07 and paid $24.50/btl. Last month I opened one and was pretty
pleased (90@P&P, 91 after 2 hours). At the lastbottle price, I am in for another case. Note for those in the
East/South: Last week I received a "refrigerated ground" shipment of the Miura Pinot Noir that lastbottle offered
a month ago. I thought they had suspended all shipments because of the really hot weather, and was shocked to
have it delivered anyway. I opened the box, expecting it to be toast here in FL, only to find the bottles quite cool
(certainly in the 60s). For an extra $32.80/case for cold shipping from Napa to St. Petersburg was a deal IMHO,
so I opted for the same shipping on the Reignac. Now I just have to cross my fingers and toes and hope it gets
the same superlative handling.
26537 mr21cbs
26540 vinmoet
2012-07-04 12:45:01 Happy Independence Day, Everyone!
2012-07-04 17:05:03 Happy 4th of July. Thanks for all you do CBS. Everyone buying the Reignac will be happy. Its all American wine
at the vinmoet household today (I did have to make a special trip). Happy Birthday USA.
26542 vinmoet
2012-07-04 18:07:07 In honor of the red, white and blue I went to the local wine store and through myself on their mercy. Our menu
is Jambalaya, smoked chicken breast, smoked beef tenderloin, a pasta salad (from Giada), yeast rolls, carrot
salad, and a regular green salad. We were just having some friends and it ballooned to 30 people, so my budget
affected my selections.
2010 Sean Minor Vin Gris - a Pinot Noir carneros rose which I've had before and is really a wonderful
summertime wine, perfect with the Jambalaya. About $15.
2009 The Girls in the Vineyard Cabernet Red Hills Lake Co. CA - I have no clue what this is but my wine guy said it
was a style that I'd like. About $25.
2010 Triumph Cellars Cab from Napa - Ditto. About $25.
Oh, and I bought a lot of Dixie beer, even though its brewed now in WI.
I have some older Cali Cabs to tap if we run short. My best Cali wines I save for French folks who visit us here
(they don't travel to the US for Bordeaux, who woulda thunk?).
So, we'll see what this old Bordeaux bum thinks of this new world stuff from this renegade upstart country of
ours....
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2012-07-04 18:38:31 Thanks, Vinmoet, same to you and your family.
~
We have a double celebration every independence day as it is also our wedding anniversary. Well, today is 15
years as I officially lost my independence. Luckily to a wonderful woman. Time to celebrate. Cheers!
26546 vinmoet
2012-07-05 09:29:35 2009 Girls In the Vineyard - my preferred of the two Cali Cabs. A correct, presentable Cab with fruity dark and
red cherries in the nose, deep dark red hue, and a smooth, balanced open with dark cherries and a hint of vanilla.
Not much length, not particularly complex. At $10 I would buy again but not often. See that its about $16 on
the web, I paid somewhere between $20 and $25. VM 84.
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BrunelloBob
luddite
BrunelloBob
vinmoet
2012-07-05 15:26:05
2012-07-05 22:18:02
2012-07-06 11:31:47
2012-07-06 13:33:17
2010 Triumph Cellars. Not a big fat wine by modern Cali standards, but too big and fat for me. Lots of big dark
fruit on the nose, deep dark red hue, a fleshy big dark cherry open with a back drop of cherry cough syrup and
vanilla. Short length. I would not buy this but could see where fans of in your face wines would like this and,
unlike me, consider it restrained. VM 80 for my palate, VM 87 as a representative of its genre. Drinkable but
would not buy again.
"2,009 Girl in the vineyard"....Lots of girls....Must be a Big vineyard...
Go Nationals! Giants swept!
2,009 girls could do a lot of sweeping...
All this hot midwest weather has me thinking about travel. So, where else to go in August? Miami, of course.
Last year I got my 14yo daughter scuba certified, so this year I'm getting my 11yo daughter certified. They do the
class work on line now. The certification takes 3 days. The deepest water is maybe 40 feet with the real average
about 20 feet and water temp usually around 81 or 82. Super easy and very safe. Watching for cheap airfare.
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2012-07-06 13:36:12 My college roommate and I are heading to Plymouth NH right now to the Flying Monkey to see Hot Tuna....I
never saw the Jefferson Airplane...first time I saw Hot Tuna was 35 years ago also with my college roommate...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjfhsLuOEWI
Stay cool and enjoy the weekend....big BBQ tomorrow night....we will go deep early and often....wine details will
be shared.
Actual conversation 1985 College Roommate's Wedding
26560 BrunelloBob
26568 Scott W
26569 BrunelloBob
26570 scott w
Brooks: You look wonderful for the wedding; how nice your pocketbook matches your shoes and dress
College Roommate's Mother: Thank you for noticing; I did not think that would be something a guy would notice
Brooks; That's a lie....I thought about persuing a career as a dress designer...like my grandfather
College Roommate's Mother: You are so full of it...Our son shared with us all the crazy things you did in college
Brooks: While in the library? ; The time I won a 20 dollar bet to streak through the library then shake the
circulation person's hand on the way out
College Roommate's Mother: No did not hear that... actually the time you took the lab mice...scotch tapped half
cut ping pong balls as helmets and threw them out the window with parachutes
Brooks: That was never proved to be me though
College Roommate's Mother: See we were always worried that our son was going to get in trouble with you
Brooks: Well I wasn't the one that got arrested in College Station TX
College Roommate's Mother: What! ............What was that?
Brooks:(long pause) oh nothing.......... I was just joking
College Roommate's Mother: your were not joking and your face is red now...(Mother makes b line to her son
who is in tux on the happiest day of life....mother pulls him to a quiet corner....5 minute conversation is seen but
not heard...very animated
!0 minutes late)
ll there's at least 2,009 Girls at the Concert...
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2012-07-06 18:48:27 I bet
2012-07-07 17:00:51 I just bought the 08 Modus on Empire, loved the 07, anyone tried the 08? Figured if it is half as good as the 07 it
will be a great buy.
Hope they don't mind holding until the heat wave breaks....
2012-07-07 19:07:18 Scott: I haven't had the 2008, but I've had several previous vintages. At that price, you're Good. In for 4 myself:
Thanks for the heads up.
2012-07-07 19:37:29 Thank you BB
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2012-07-07 22:01:27 2007 Schug Carneros Chardonnay Gorgeous golden color and truly one of the best Chards I have had. Picked it
up a couple of years ago from the Wine Spies.
2004 Oriel Sygnet McLaren Vale Shiraz. This is big juice. Almost chewy. Perfect with dinner.
No heat wave here in AZ, just normal wave!
2012-07-08 19:20:32 I miss red wine...Can't it cool down enough just ONE evening....
(gotta get central air...heat negatively affecting my habit...)
2012-07-08 22:27:42 Barolo hounds: any comments on the 2006 Fratelli Alessandria Barolo 'Gramolere' DOCG @ $56 today on the
Spies?
2012-07-09 17:06:43 @Scott W Drinking a 2006 Modus now with pizza. Ordered a 4 pack of the 08 from Empire. Thanks for the heads
up! Hope everyone had a great Independence Day holiday and was able to stay reasonably cool! Glad the temps
are back in the 80s again!
2012-07-09 19:10:16 never tasted that Barolo (or any by that maker) before... no opinion!
@ludds.... PFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT Why does an Indians fan care about the Senators, er Expos, er whatever so
much anyway?
2012-07-09 20:00:34 vinmoet: Some expert Bordeaux input, please: My favorite LWS just sent me an email re: 12 btls of 1996 Chateau
Lagrange @ $64.95/btl. When I picked up 4 other cases on Sat., he told me that this might become available
from his elderly client who has 300+ cases of older Bordeaux which he is "thinning out". The CT notes make it
look attractive, similar to the 93 las Cases I recently bought from the same source for $900/case, which is
outstanding!! Any comments would be appreciated.
2012-07-10 05:38:34 wine magnet
That's a great price for the Lagrange. average w-s price is $110, the lowest is $70. If provenance is trusted, then
it's a buy. Make sure it's from St Julien and not spelled La Grange.
here is a review of 1996 Bordeaux
http://www.thewinedoctor.com/tastingsformal/bordeaux1996.shtml
http://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/a20110922.html
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2012-07-10 07:41:01 WM: If this is the Saint Julien, then this is a great deal, IMHO. Be warned, however, even though this wine has
some age on it, it is still a tannic beast and a baby. That's just how '96 rolls. As you will recall, I am a big Neal
Martin fan. His notes from '08:
Wine Journal
Nov 2008 Neal Martin 93 Drink N/A $70-$125
"A blend of 57% Cabernet Sauvignon, 36% Merlot and 7% Petit Verdot, the 1996 is even more subdued on the
nose than the 1996, with overt cedar and tobacco aromas. But good definition, perhaps with a little more clarity
than the 1995. Unfurls reluctantly to reveal more smoky aromas. Surprisingly supple on the entry, good balance
with superb ripeness on the mid-palate with dense, ripe black fruits, touches of blueberry and black plum with a
touch of citrus orange in the background. The finish is very well defined and focused. Excellent – but it needs
time. Tasted September 2008."
Parker's notes:
Wine Advocate #122
Apr 1999 Robert Parker 90 Drink: 2006 - 2022 $70-$125
"This impeccably run, Japanese-owned property has fashioned a superb 1996. Opaque purple-colored, with a
backward yet promising nose of classically pure cassis intermixed with pain grille and spice, this medium to fullbodied, powerful yet stylish wine possesses superb purity, a nicely-layered feel in the mouth, and plenty of
structure. It will not be an early-drinking St.-Julien, but one to lay away and enjoy over the next 2-3 decades.
Anticipated maturity: 2006-2022."
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Wine Advocate #115
"A classic Bordeaux as well as a textbook St.-Julien, this dense, powerful yet elegant 1996 is broodingly backward,
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Garagiste
sale. It's like winning
2012-07-11 23:23:25 I know that I seem like kramer from seinfeld in that I burst into the asylum every few months. @Luddite, I have
never had much luck with Rimmerman. I fell for a FX pichler 6 pack where he was claiming that the 6 pack was
worth like $600. I added up my 6 bottles, and it was like $350, which was list price. Beserkers seem to be
universally against buying these mystery packs.
2012-07-12 08:08:04 Kramer er @JohnR. Glad you stopped by! For the garage sale, you get to request up to 3 cases each of $250,
$600, or $1500 worth (minimum) of random wines. But you odds of getting any cases were stated as being less
than 1 in 30. Hence the winning the wine lottery theme...
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2012-07-12 21:35:12 F Garagiste. that is all.
2012-07-12 21:50:03 @VM - So now we know what RP thought of the wine well over a decade ago and what NM thought of it several
years ago, but what do you think about it? LOL.
2012-07-13 08:55:10 Julius,
Thanks for chiming in. We need more wine talk around here...
I tend to have photographic recall of wines I've tasted but on this one, I can't remember having tasted it...I
believe if I did it was a decade ago? If I had a credible recall, I'd put it out there. I'm just very familiar with the
Chateau, its terroir, and its general reputation. I've also drunk a lot of '96 wines with the probable exception of
this one. So, while I can't cough up notes, I can judge the others' notes, my feelings about the vintage, the
Chateau, and the pricing and offer up an opinion on whether this is a deal or not but that's about it.
I tend to look at Parker as a standard. Whether you love, like or hate him, he's a very consistent taster and is a
solid point of reference. His prose is a good indicator of when there is heavy extraction and wood, for example.
His palate is predictable and therefore a very good barometer.
Neal tends to favor earthier, less extracted and, possibly, more balanced wines? But he's a younger pup who's
probably coming into his own right now...his older notes can be a much harder reference point to judge from
although I think 2008 is the starting point of his maturation as a reviewer. Plus, he's not that well known so is a
tougher reference point for others than the Robert is.
26623 wine magnet
2012-07-13 09:58:05 Vinmoet & NaH: Thanks for your thoughts on the '96 Lagrange St. Julien. I had already committed to buy it,
just shortly after receiving the email, but alas, my email was too late! Another recipient of the offer snatched up
the available case. It was the real Lagrange, and from my experience with wine from this consignment seller, it
has impeccable provenance since its' release.
I have now been offered a case of '96 Leoville Barton at $85/btl, of which I am not familiar. Leoville las Cases are
the exclusive Leovilles in my cellar. Any quick thoughts without research? The CT notes are not as compelling as
were the Lagrange, and the pricing is not as attractive (to me!).
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2012-07-13 10:51:11 I'd consider this wine still a baby. '96 is notoriously tannic and long lived. Don't remember tasting this particular
vintage either:
Parker
Wine Advocate #122
Apr 1999 Robert Parker 92 Drink: 2007 - 2030 $95-$236
"This impressive wine is a classic. Although backward, it exhibits a dense ruby/purple color in addition to
abundant black currant fruit intertwined with spicy oak and truffle-like scents. The wine is brilliantly made, fullbodied, and tightly-structured with plenty of muscle and outstanding concentration and purity. It should turn out
to be a long-lived Leoville Barton, and somewhat of a sleeper. However, patience will be required. Anticipated
maturity: 2007-2030."
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"An enormous, masculine, backward wine, Leoville-Barton's 1996 exhibits an opaque black/purple color, and
sweet, earthy, prune, and blackcurrant aromas intertwined with scents of licorice and Asian spices. Enormous
and full-bodied, with a sweet mid-palate and mouthsearing tannin in the finish, this exceptionally dense,
powerful, layered wine will require significant patience. Its explosive power and richness may push this wine's
ultimate rating into the mid-nineties. Anticipated maturity: 2007-2040."
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26632 Mrpat56
Wine Advocate #110
"On three separate occasions, Leoville-Barton's 1996 proved to be spectacular, not surprising in view of the fact
that this effort is from a chateau that has produced nothing less than top-flight wines for more than a decade.
The 1996 possesses explosive richness, undoubtedly from a higher percentage of Cabernet Sauvignon in the final
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of CH 200 CS.
Let me just say that this is drinking really well right now. Not sure this has the backbone for 10-15 years as
hyped, but for now very satisfying.
2012-07-14 20:06:08 @louas: thanks for your report on 200. Have you had some of the 172 cab by chance? CT notes are all over the
place. Go Bucky!
2012-07-15 11:55:34 Do you have any idea what source the CH 200 came from?
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2012-07-15 21:28:14 @McMalbec: I have had the lot 172, however, I have no notes to refer to.
@Mrpat56: The Lot 200 was purchased in Tucson from Costco.
2012-07-16 11:14:39 Mrpat56 - Lot 200 2008 Napa Valley Cabernet is primarily a blend of cabernet from three of Napa’s greatest subdistricts: Stags Leap, Oakville, and Rutherford.
2012-07-16 15:07:09 @Hinrgman: Better Answer!!!!!!!! Actually LOL!
2012-07-16 16:15:01 PAGING CALIFORNIA:
I'm in San Francissco on business Sunday night, staying at the Hilton Financial District (Chinatown) . Can anyone
recommend a good wine bar/restaurant within walking distance of the Hotel? I'm looking for some place where I
can get a good glass of wine and a meal and am running into several places that are closed Sunday
Not my first trip to SF, so I've got the sightseeing under control.
Cheers!
26641 vinmoet
26642 vinmoet
2012-07-16 16:29:40 Hey, is BLou posting anywhere?
2012-07-16 16:50:49 BBob: We were sent here in March: http://www.cotognasf.com
Wine list changes, but there's a good selection http://www.cotognasf.com/pdf/cotogna-wine.pdf
We stayed in China Town and walked there (its in Jackson Square, very close). For a table you need a
reservation. You can walk up and eat the same menu at their bar with no reservation. Especially if you are by
yourself. We loved it. They will post the Sunday menu on the prior Wednesday. Have a good time!
26643 BaroloDude
2012-07-16 17:43:48 BBob... Barbacco and Perbacco...
hello everyone.
Jon Lord died :-( meanest sounding keyboardist ever (Deep Purple).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjzVUCnnAk (see solo at ~2:58 mark)
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deep-purple-keyboardist-jon-lord-dead-at-71-20120716
26644 Mrpat56
2012-07-16 17:56:20 Thank you, I purchased 6 when they were released and enjoyed the one I drank so far. I remember the dark
cherry and chocolate flavors. I was acually wondering if anyone knew specific vineyards that the lot 200 came
from. It was a secret when released and I think that maybe it still is. No matter where its from,its good. I
decided to open one now to have with my steak
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2012-07-16 18:06:20 @Dude: Barbacco and Perbacco would be Perfect, but both are closed Sunday...
Intrigued by Vinny's Sunday Dinner option...
26650 TonyO
Thanks guys.
2012-07-16 19:20:42 @BaroloDude: Jon Lord was the best IMO..................
2012-07-16 20:09:07 @BB the Press Club is great..not sure it's in walking distance tho.. http://www.pressclubsf.com/
2012-07-16 20:48:17 Thanks Scott, but
"Closed on Sunday"
Must be a lot of church-goin' in S.F.....
2012-07-16 21:43:58 @BrunelloBob: www.scalasbistro.com .............I thought it was a great place (and they are open on Sunday !)
26654 BrunelloBob
26656 mr21cbs
2012-07-17 05:47:34 T.O.: This isn't a "yankee fan hangout" is it?
2012-07-17 11:41:23 Getting hooked on Cabernet Franc, mostly California. Any QPR recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
26657 BrunelloBob
26658 BrunelloBob
2012-07-17 12:29:36 RE: Cinderella: IN, vintage be damned.
2012-07-17 12:32:40 @MR: I liked the 2007 Robert Storey Cellars that popped up on WTSO at $19.99, but that was only 52% cab
franc, the rest cab sauv. The 2008 Flora Springs Cab Franc was pretty good too.
2012-07-17 12:53:11 @BB I still have 2 more of Flora Springs, which I also picked up from WTSO and like a lot. Finished a batch of St.
Francis Cab Franc from WTSO, and would buy more. I am sure there is more...
2012-07-17 20:12:53 @mr21cbs: I have not had this wine so just going by CT notes and price:
26647 TonyO
26648 Scott W
26649 BrunelloBob
26659 mr21cbs
26663 luddite
2009 - Lang & Reed Cabernet Franc: http://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1227815
26664 TonyO
26665 TonyO
Available at WL for $19.98
2012-07-17 21:40:12 @BrunelloBob: would I do that to you ??
2012-07-17 21:46:37 Friday night is going to be one heck of a party here at Casa de TonyO.....my good friend is moving to Italy to work
at Cigliuti www.cigliuti.it
26667 louas
Party is on Friday to give two days to recoup......
2012-07-17 22:35:56 Panko crusted Pacific Halibut tonight with our last bottle of Supernatural SB. It continues to impress. Ms. Louas
pulled herself away from Brian Williams earlier to tell me "this is good!".
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2012-07-18 03:07:55 mr21cbs: This vintage is not listed on WS pro, but I have enjoyed it and have one left:
2004 Domaine de la Butte Bourgueil Mi-pente, which I bought 2 yrs ago for $12 (a steal); 2009 Damien Lorieux
Bourgueil Cuvée Graviers, from garagiste 4/12 at $14, which I opened last week: not bad for the price and it will
likely improve with some time; 2008 Domaine Fabrice Gasnier Chinon Vieilles Vignes, bought 5/10 for $18, which
I scored a 90 in 2011, and will benefit from some more time, IMHO; 2009 Sineann Cabernet Franc Champoux
Vineyard, which I bought from Chainbridge Cellars for $28 in 1/12 and have not yet tried, but I bought it on DT's
rave 93 pt CT review from 7/11; 2008 Vignobles du Paradis Chinon Cuvée Signée, $10 from WL, 6/10, 11/10
note says it should improve w/time, good buy w/FS.
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26670
26671
26672
2012-07-18 06:17:36
2012-07-18 08:43:37
2012-07-18 09:15:20
2012-07-18 12:21:55
BrunelloBob
mr21cbs
louas
wine magnet
T.O.: Why not? I'd do it to you.... :lol:
Thank you, ALL, for the Cab Franc ideas. I will seek those out.
@mr21cbs: +1 on the 2009 Damien Lorieux Bourgueil Cuvée Graviers.
Vinmoet: Thanks for your thoughts/reviews on the '96 Leoville Barton. My case is reserved for a Friday pickup in
Sarasota. The RP notes which show a drinking window ending in 2004, mean that I may have to hold it to drink
on my 100th birthday...NOT likely! I guess I will have to drink it as a baby.
Any thoughts from anyone on the current offer on wineshopper.com (Marqués de Griñón Emeritus 2003)? The
description as "Bordeaux-inspired" gets my attention, and the CT reviews averaging 92.4 are tempting me to pull
the trigger for several bottles to get the free shipping on orders >$99.
26673 wine magnet
26674 BrunelloBob
26677 luddite
26679 brooks
26680 TonyO
26681 TonyO
2012-07-18 13:24:46 The wineshopper.com offer of Marqués de Griñón Emeritus 2003 sold out quickly. Oh well, the description and
pricing caught my attention, even though I couldn't get any. It's not as though I need more Bordeaux/Bordeauxinspired wines and apparently others needed some quicker than I could decide. The old "snooze, you lose"
adage in action!
2012-07-18 13:30:45 Well Mags, I think that means it Was a Good offer!
2012-07-18 18:42:50 Settling for "Old Bay" :( while waiting for rib-rub by AFK!
2012-07-18 20:43:56 2005 Havens Wine Cellars Bourriquot.....still livin the dream.
Hot Tuna....get some if you can
Carlos...bare feet and flawless
Woodstock Alums
Say Good Night Moon
PS TonyO...enjoy...embrace..
2012-07-18 22:13:01 @Brooks: I am ready, willing, and able !
2012-07-18 22:13:26 TWSS...............
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2012-07-19 09:10:47 @Vinmoet
It strikes me that most of the "flash deals" I'm seeing for Bordeaux wines are merlot based (vs. cab based). It's
not just 2009.
Anything to that?
2012-07-19 12:45:20 John O: I don't know that I'm seeing that, I haven't been watching that closely so maybe you're right. The reality
is that practically all red Bordeaux has some amount of merlot. Left bank tends to be Cab heavy and right bank
Merlot heavy but they still predominately blend the two interspersed with cab franc and petite verdot. Even
wines which are supposed to be Merlot only wines, like Petrus, are still only about 80% Merlot. All that said, its
probably easier to push Merlot here.
2012-07-19 17:50:48 Any thoughts on the 05 Montes Folly on Empire's 4free page? Definitely the best price on the web & seems
to be scored quite well between CT & various critics, though some of the notes make it sound like a bit of a
fruit forward oak monster.
2012-07-19 19:05:00 Roll over and play Dead
Let the Led out
Get the Kinks out
Be a Queen for the day
Who is next
Sticks and Stones
It's AC/DC
Trypes anyone....
2012-07-19 21:14:18 The Who: 12/9. Wells Fargo Center. Philadelphia, PA
BrunelloBob and Beautiful Wife circling for tix....
Requests for restaurant and wine bar consults pending...
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2012-07-20 07:26:28 BBob
I have The Who as 12/8
http://www.wellsfargocenterphilly.com/event-details.aspx?e=10218&s=1936
as for consults...Good Grief!! What do you want to eat? Do you want BYO's or regular places?
Non BYO
Italian-
Vetri http://www.vetriristorante.com/ or Osteria http://www.osteriaphilly.com/
SpanishAmada http://amadarestaurant.com/index.html or Distrito
http://distritorestaurant.com/index.html or Tinto http://tintorestaurant.com/
Classical
Bibou http://www.biboubyob.com/
Mediterranean
Zahav
http://www.zahavrestaurant.com/
Let me know if you need more. When will you be visiting...that day or weekend? I feel an offline in the making!!
JIM
26696 A Frayed Knot
2012-07-20 09:21:04 The Mayans may be right, the end may be soon.............afk is now the owner of a cellular communication device!
Not Crackberry...........appears to be powered by an obese, green robot.
I have often thrown rocks at birds.......but never before have I thrown birds at rocks
Angry Birds = Digital Crack.............need help..........how do I stop?.............like a bad Hitchcock movie!
Tried to call home............cannot find slot for the quarters............what kind of Hippy Voodoo is this?
26697 BrunelloBob
26698 mr21cbs
2012-07-20 10:46:08 I picture AFK on a Seinfeld-style, 12 pound, military radio look-a-like cell phone...
2012-07-20 10:53:10 AFK, welcome to the 21st century.
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2012-07-20 12:22:36 NaH, you are Correct, Sir. 12/8 it is.
(12/9 is the Mohegan Sun show, which is 30 mins down the road from us but, for various reasons, Philly's the
target)
Thanks for the restaurant recs, I'll review when I have a bit more time. Looking for great food, great wine, great
atmosphere. Bit of a "splurge" dinner probably. Pretty open as to type of food.
26700 BrunelloBob
26701 NaH
Dinner with Beautiful wife Friday night, concert Saturday. Offline likely impossible :(
2012-07-20 12:57:30 WOW, NaH :o .... Vetri .... :o
That Would qualify as a Splurge...
Tell me the wine prices are "reasonable".....please....
2012-07-20 14:21:55 BBob
"reasonable" hahahahahahahaha that was funny!
If close to 300% mark up is ok with you, than it's resonable.
I'm sure you can find a wine that is a decent price. Worse case, get by the glass, this way you can have different
wine with each course.
26702 BrunelloBob
BTW, Vetri is AMAZING!
2012-07-20 14:56:53 That's it then, Vetri is out! :(
I'll pay a 3,000% markup on food, but 300% on wine is ridiculous! :lol: I wine shop on the internet, you know.
(Too bad, place looks perfect: small, good food, good wine, I like the pairings option. Italian is always good. Got
something similar and cheaper?)
Digging the tapas joints for before the concert--Thanks!
26703 NaH
2012-07-20 15:39:17 Osteria is the sister restaurant. Very good also.
I'm not saying that the wine prices are that marked up. But most restaurants, higher end, do have expensive
wines.
Enjoy wherever you go. Sorry you don't have extra time to get together.
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2012-07-20 22:11:37 WARNING: A REPOST
Roll over and play Dead
Let the Led out
Get the Kinks out
Be a Queen for the day
Who is next
Styx and Stones
It’s AC/DC
Trypes anyone….
Snap no one suggests to change sticks to Styx...Zzzzzzzzz....can I get a heart beat monitor reading? Did the music
die? Where is my John Wayne? Like Steve McQueen?
Wah Wah Wee Wah.
26705 John O'
26708 A Frayed Knot
26712 BrunelloBob
2012-07-21 18:08:35
2012-07-22 00:23:27
2012-07-22 19:51:55
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2012-07-23 12:37:53
26724 luddite
26726 BrunelloBob
2012-07-24 14:24:14
2012-07-24 18:52:03
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2012-07-25 05:44:35
Mrpat56
BrunelloBob
BaroloDude
John O'
AFK....I would call you from my cell phone, but my other cell phone is ringing now ;)
'05 havens bourriquot. 3 years on its side has worked its magic.
@Sir Brooks ~ ........knights or better Trypes to win!
2006 Corte Pavone at the Ferry Plaza Wine Bar
WOW Good Brunello
Way Drinkable despite its youth and tannin
Live Who and Stones on the sound ststem doesn't hurt the ambiance at all
World's largest wine bottle...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/19/huge-wine-bottle_n_1686613.html?icid=mainggrid7|main5|dl14|sec3_lnk1%26pLid%3D181523
@B² talks and WTSO listens. :) The '06 Corte Pavone is up now...
Ludds: I was on a plane!
Price?
(so I know How upset to be. Like I Need More Brunello...)
I think 39.99. Not sure. Didnt last long
Pretty upset...
Les Cretes (chard) on Garagiste. Ahhh the memories of that maker....
@Vinmoet
2005 Ferrand-Lartigue St. Emilion for $23 JJB preferred client price.
thoughts?
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2012-07-25 08:42:01 John O': Have never been a big fan of this wine but it has received attention as kind of a QPR upstart. The price
is appealing. These tend to drink younger so this should be in a drinking window now even though '05 is a tannic
vintage needing to age. For me, a pass. But, I could easily understand someone going in on this particular deal.
Parker's notes:
26735 Brooks
2012-07-25 10:51:39
26737 AdamEmpire
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26740 McMalbec
2012-07-25 19:29:32
26743 vinmoet
2012-07-26 08:31:08
Wine Advocate #176
Apr 2008 Robert Parker 90 Drink: 2008 - 2023 $25-$40 (30)
Thank goodness this estate’s new consultant, Stephane Derenoncourt, has toned down what was often too much
new oak. He also appears to have built in more density. The 2005 is a beautifully exuberant, sexy wine displaying
copious black cherry, toasty oak, raspberry, and vanillin notes. Pure, rich, medium to full-bodied, and luscious,
patience will not be required for this beauty as it can be consumed now and over the next 12-15 years.
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Wine Advocate #170
Apr 2007 Robert Parker (90-92) Drink: 2007 - 2022 $25-$40 (24)
Wine guru Stephane Derenoncourt appears to have tamed some of the blatant oakiness often found in young
vintages of Ferrand-Lartigue. The result is a denser, richer, more balanced effort possessing medium to full body
as well as loads of exuberant black raspberry and cherry fruit intermixed with pain grille and spice. Soft tannin
along with abundant richness suggest this beautifully pure, long 2005 should be consumed during its first 12-15
years of life.
Wine Advocate #164
Christmas in July has started...use old CW offering pages to see price changes =)
This message will self destruct in 1:09
Vinmoet - I love the Miraval Rose, great QPR. Sadly the importer does not ship outside of NY Metro so I cannot
sell it.
@Vinmoet: yet another JJB private offer-2009 La Lagune 'La Moulin de Lagune'
Haut-Medoc, Bordeaux for $22.50 abottle. Thoughts on this second wine?
McMalbec: I'm familiar with their first wine have not had the second. They even have a third which is sourced
from adjacent vineyards. The second comes from young vines there and from juice that they did not use in the
first. The first tends to be bigger, muscular and built for the long haul. There is no shortage of oak. The second
is said to be softer and ready to drink sooner. 2005 was a killer vintage for this estate, 2009 probably matched it.
I recall Parker scoring the first 95 points for '09.
If you are looking for a modern style, early drinker not meant to age, this is probably a great candidate and the
pricing is awfully good.
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2012-07-26 09:31:41 Miraval is "hip and trendy"? Seems like a wine with ties to Pink Floyd would only be "hip and trendy" to those of
us who are in the general neighborhood of fifty.
2012-07-26 09:45:24 The wine is hip and trendy, a bit modern. Pink Floyd is retro and trendy in the subculture of our youth. 50 is the
new 20, didn't you know? Myself, I respect the body of Pink Floyd's work, but have never been a fan.
2012-07-26 11:59:53 I like Pink Floyd, but I wouldn't consider myself a fan. Their music is very interesting, but it is a lot of work to
listen to and definitely doesn't represent my personal world view.
The wine, on the other hand, is nicely flavorful and delicious. I enjoyed the 2008 vintage very much. I wish it
were more widely distributed. I haven't managed to procure some for a couple of years. I'd pick it up now and
then if I could find it in a local store. There aren't many rosés I'm willing to special order in enough quantity to
make the numbers work. Dave, Brandon, I'm looking at you.
26748 john o'
2012-07-26 13:19:50 @vinmoet - apprediate your input on Bordeaux
Regarding the 2009 La Lagune ‘La Moulin de Lagune’ Haut-Medoc, Bordeaux for $22.50 a bottle. I was on the
fence and decided to plunge in, since it seems to be my life’s mission to corner the market on $20 - $40, 2009
Bordeaux’s. The last e-mail I got from my rep, showed the previous offers down the side and the price had risen
to $26.50. Not 10 minutes earlier I had put in my order at the old price and the confirmation came back at the
lower price.
I suspect it’s a popular offer and that demand has caused them to rethink the pricing.
question regarding this site, does it shut down at night?
anyone else having trouble with their access?
If anyone is wondering, that Antinori Guado al Tasso on Last Bottle is GREAT wine.
I dropped 93 points on the 2003, which was rated like 5 points lower by the pros.
Seriously, does anyone know where BLou is hiding out?
Pink Floyd seems to be a love or hate (or like....................) saw Roger Waters about a month ago perform The
Wall in concert.....nothing short of amazing....speaking of amazing, tomorrow night Santana and Allman Bros. in
Saratoga.................a little Carlos circa.................wait for it.............1970....CAN"T ^&((&&)) WAIT
!!!!!
26749 NY Pete
2012-07-26 14:16:55
26750 BrunelloBob
2012-07-26 16:18:31
26753 louas
26754 TonyO
2012-07-26 21:15:08
2012-07-26 21:58:37
26757 TonyO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlw74WEbIHI
2012-07-26 22:38:51 @louas: check facebook
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2012-07-27 15:09:51 In your search for cost effective 2009 Bordeaux I thought I'd help by listing some QPR wines. These are all a bit
too modern for me but are accessible young and will improve over the next decade. I would not hold these
much longer than 10-15 years though. In that sub $25 category, these are very good values:
Reignac - Bordeaux RP90 in that $20ish range
Charmail - Haut Medoc RP90 JS92 under $25
Joanin Becot - Castillion RP91 JS92 $25ish
Gigault Cuvee Viva - Cotes de Blaye RP90 JS92 $20ish
(a Derenoncourt wine, almost all Merlot)
Cambon La Pelouse - Haut Medoc RP90 $20ish
These should all be easy to find here in the States and are very nice wines. To be honest, I have not bought these
for myself but have tasted them for others. They represent very accessible good QPR wines and I'd consider
them for houses wines.
26766 Phredd
26767 louas
2012-07-27 16:58:59 @vinmoet: Are there QPR or house wines from Bordeaux that you would buy for yourself? Or maybe you don't
go for the QPR plays in Bordeaux? I'm not being provocative, just wondering after you recommended five wines
you basically said you wouldn't drink.
2012-07-27 19:54:07 @Tony O: Embarrassed to say I don't know his full name you can tell me here or at [email protected], please
26768 vinmoet
2012-07-27 22:32:01 Phredd: Have tasted and would drink these. I have a very full cellar which is now delivering older bottles ready
to drink. Not buying the QPRs myself because the '09 wines that interest me are at a higher price point. Don't
think that you'll find '10 accessible and '11 will generally stink, so am tipping you off on QPR '09's that are in that
sub $25 range which is where many are comfortable. I would not recommend wine that I wouldn't drink myself
but my space is limited so I am picky about what goes in the cellar. These won't taste like wines 3 times the
price, but they are very solid.
26773 John O'
2012-07-28 20:34:26 this board is like a 30" putt in a close match with my buddies (very quiet, chirp, chirp).
Tried the I Giusti Belcore on Cindy with dinner tonight. Really nice Sangio blend.
2012-07-29 02:53:50 The end of an era?!? "Google Chrome could not connect to winelibrarytv.com" "tv.winelibrary.com Internet
Explorer cannot display the webpage"
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2012-07-29 10:43:52 For inmate bargain hunters:
26778 BrunelloBob
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/07/25/dining/20120725-twentywines.html?ref=reviews
2012-07-29 10:52:23 @Ludds: Is someone on the other Gary's mailing list? ;)
26779 McMalbec
26780 BrunelloBob
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26783 TonyO
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I've had the Produttori del Barbaresco Langhe Nebbiolo. Spend a couple more bucks and get the Produttori del
Barbaresco Torre (Barbaresco) instead. Great QPR and one of the few multi-bottle buys in my world. The Langhe
falls a bit short.
2012-07-29 14:46:08 @BB re Produttori del Barbaresco Torre- not much around. Some 2006( more expensive than the) and 2007. WL
at $26.@ seems to be he only sourse of the 2007.
Do you get your from WL?
2012-07-29 16:50:29 McMal: Yes, the last couple vintages from The Temple. I can get it locally as well, for a few dollars more. The
"Torre" isn't really part of the name, I don't think, but refers to the picture of the tower on the label. Helps
distinguish it from The Lange and various single vineyard offerings. If one just says" Produttori del Barbaresco ",
there can be some confusion as that is the producer's name and "Produttori del Barbaresco Barbaresco" kind of
sounds silly. Not all retailers may be referring to it as "Torre" regardless. Should be pretty widely available.
2012-07-29 18:57:23 Santan blew the $^%&^& roof of of SPAC.....64 years old, Woodstock veteran and still able to play like
a beast........wow ! Not a huge Clapton fan but the jam with Derek Trucks and Warren Haynes was a rock n roll
epiphany...........
2012-07-29 21:50:04 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne_F5zT-pgk
2012-07-30 09:34:36 @vinmoet: Ah, I see. Makes sense to me. Thanks!
2012-07-30 14:26:05 TonyO was really a man of few words Sunday night. Hopefully it was the result of copious consumption of good
wine and he just forgot what he was going to write.
2012-07-30 19:22:10 every year I donate 3 wines for a fundraiser for a soup kitchen in Syracuse. Sometimes a vertical, sometimes just
3 highly rated wines that I bought at a steep disct (always disclose the total SRP). This year's theme was:
Wineries that won the 1976 Judgement of Paris:
2003 and 2005 Montelena Estate Cab and
2007 Stag's Leap Wine Cellars Artemis Cab.
Not the same wines by any means, but a fun theme and hopefully it catches some attention.
2012-07-30 23:31:39 @wine magnet: as Joe Perry said, I let the music do the talking !
2012-07-31 12:11:02 Anyone beside me wondering if The Temple's Ardente Cab is just relabelled Vayniac Cab?
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2012-07-31 13:38:55 JohnO...very nice..a great idea I share...so much better than seeing on auction list...free coupon for Spa
treatment from a man named Artie "Fingers" Choke who runs the biz above a deli
^
I did similar for hospice care center with the 95,96,97 Burgess Cabs vertical
2011: $240
2012: $125
I paid probably $22-25/piece....since I had purchased three of each, I enjoyed the vertical with fellow wino
friends.
2012-07-31 16:25:40 @BBob: Well, if it is, they broke the law. Vayniac Cab was vintage 2007.
2012-07-31 16:43:34 Hello everyone. I have a new and very limited (too limited to email) offer on 2009 La Peira Las Flors listed as the
current Ship4Free. Just wanted to give you guys a heads up in case anyone is interested in the wine. Thank you as
always!
2012-07-31 17:15:35 Sarcasm, Phredd. Sorry, I do that sometimes. :oops:
Meant to imply that they can't seem to get rid of either one...
x
Nice looking wine Adam. Thanks for the heads up.
2012-07-31 18:14:47 "We did NOT sell out on our monster three pack with one hour free shipping... so here is another hour of free
shipping"
26800 mr21cbs
Pertimali 2005 BdM was fantastic, rich, and quite aromatic stuff the other night. Got better as it went along...
argon/fridge overnight and still very good next evening. Winner.
2012-07-31 21:06:34 Some good Brunelli in 2005, despite the lesser vintage rating...
(am I repeating myself?)
2012-07-31 21:10:17 Word on the Street is that The Demigod has Rugrat #2 on the way.
,
Heartfelt Congrats GV, raise him to be a Patriots fan!! :lol:
2012-07-31 22:26:03 @BB who said that the offspring is a boy? Facebook was pretty abstract. Best wishes to him and his lovely wife.
26803 Phredd
2012-08-01 09:37:48 @BBob: Of course. And I was meaning to imply that WL would be smarter counterfeiters than that! :-)
26804 BrunelloBob
2012-08-01 13:32:44 @Vinny: W.A. has your 2010 Chablis QPR with an anticipated maturity of 2014-2022. Your thoughts on its
drinkability now?
26798 BrunelloBob
26799 BrunelloBob
@Adam, Any chance of a "Ship4"?
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2012-08-01 18:11:26 Bbob: I am no white wine guru but it seems to me that a few years in the bottle has nothing but upside. That
said, I thought that the wine drank well upon the pour in the glass but opened up nicely after half an hourish. At
this price point I'm not going to cry over infanticide.
2012-08-01 18:16:19 Merci, Vincent.
2012-08-02 18:45:15 cricket, cricket, cricket
2006 Chateau Beaumont - decent Tuesday night wine on a Thursday.
2012-08-02 21:45:55 John O', everyone is watching the Olympics. How are you doing? What is new in your neck of the woods?
Summer doldrums at the hills!
2012-08-02 22:52:23 Kancho...but I digress
2012-08-03 10:06:34 @mr21cbs
Height of the season in the Finger Lakes
2012-08-03 13:47:09 @BrunelloBob - I won't be able to do any kind of offer on the 2010 Droin Vaillons Chablis. The case I have in
stock is all that is left.
2012-08-03 14:18:59 @BB: "rugrats" .......haven't heard that term since it was me that was being called it ! (except for that dumba$$
cartoon that is on Nickelodeon)...........almost too hot to drink wine (red anyway..............) quite a week.......one
daughter truned 8, one turned 19, and our oldest son turned 23...........we are never going to retire !!!!!
Hope all is well with all of you !!!!!
26822 BrunelloBob
2012-08-03 14:41:32 8....19....What the Hell were you doing for 11 years?
x
26823 John O'
26824 BaroloDude
2012-08-03 16:01:50
2012-08-03 16:38:41
26825 Scott W
2012-08-03 18:45:54
26828 Mobius
26830 luddite
26831 TonyO
2012-08-04 21:45:22
2012-08-05 10:59:01
2012-08-05 11:06:04
x
(thanks for the response Adam)
@TonyO - admire the perseverance
Battle of the Falesco Marciliano deals today. Empire wine has 05 for 23.99 & 4FS. WL has the 07 for 27.99
and 12FS. Both are supposed to be well rated bottlings...
I took a flyer on the 05 Falesco from Empire.....seeing how Adam is already holding 4 bottles until fall I might as
well make it 8.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51IScrIuQVE
@Mobius: Welcome back to the Hills my musical friend! Hope you and the band are having a blast!
Well, well..............look what the "cat dragged in" M-O-B-I-U-S !
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2012-08-05 11:35:56 I like my coffee strong, my music loud, and my explosions plentiful....................best band to release a debut
album in the past 10 years IMO......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDMvN45sjo4
26834 McMalbec
26835 wine magnet
26837 brooks
26840 john o'
26841 mr21cbs
26842 BrunelloBob
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luddite
BrunelloBob
John O'
BrunelloBob
John O'
TonyO
BrunelloBob
I bet your awake now !
2012-08-06 10:30:30 @ Tony: I've got nasty habits, I drink chablis at 3.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxS6lnKoi-I
2012-08-06 16:17:29 A hearty welcome back to Mobius, who had "become a legend only in his own mind" (quoting Roxie), but also in
the minds of his readers as well! I do look forward to a resumption of the tales of the Wilkerson bus and its'
collection of inmates (and antagonists). I am sure they have many adventures from the many months since the
last report, all of which I would love to read while enjoying some special wine. Those adventures were surely
worthy of more than daily drinkers. I'd much prefer classic wines with classic lines, and look forward to breaking
out more CdPs and Bordeaux.
2012-08-06 20:54:58 Ho1y Cr4p...
2012-08-07 13:56:57 The Jade Moutain Syrah Paras Vineyard 2004 up now on Last Bottle for $18 is a killer deal.
Highly reccomend it.
2012-08-07 14:22:58 John O', I second the Jade Mountain deal! I have 4 bottles of the 2002 vintage, just bought 4 of 2004 as it drinks
great in the winter after skiing. Terrific wine for the price!
2012-08-07 14:29:27 @JohnO: In on your say-so.
"These better Not Suck." :lol:
2012-08-07 15:52:06 @B²: The '02 Jade Mountain was also highly recommended by @TonyO!
2012-08-07 16:26:36 Oh No, Not TonyO!
2012-08-07 18:07:11 @BB - or what, Big Boy?
2012-08-07 19:41:38 I'll send you an equal size order of Les Cretes!
2012-08-07 20:37:38 uncle.
2012-08-07 22:03:27 Yes, the REAL T.O. says BUY and DRINK on the Jade Mountain !
2012-08-08 08:27:00 The "Oh-riginol TonyO"
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2012-08-08 12:58:38 Someone posted their CT review of our QPR in French. They gave it 91 points. My humble translation:
"The wine is pale with pronounced green hues. Nose of lemon, shells, sea air / salt and a touch of spice.
Somewhat complex but oh so pleasant and full of freshness. It is pleasurable in the mouth with vivaciousness,
perfect acidity and a long finish. Flavors of lemon, orange, spicey poached pear, mineral and salt. It has the
substance to age. I have cellared several."
26852 McMalbec
2012-08-08 15:30:56 Thanks, Vin: In your opinion (under proper storage) would this wine retain its quality through next summer?
26853 vinmoet
2012-08-08 16:36:48 McM: This wine is a baby. It is very drinkable now, will be much better in 3 years and probably last a decade
more plus. I am guessing its sweetest spot is between 2015 and 2020?
2012-08-08 17:34:12 Found a few more bottles of the QPR let me know if you are interested. Thanks!
2012-08-08 17:46:29 Adam: I'll take 4 if you ship 'em 4 free, once the weather cools down.
(If they come Fedex, I just need a cool overnight, I'm a day away and our Fedex guy shows up by 9AM))
26855 AdamEmpire
26856 BrunelloBob
26858 BrunelloBob
26860 luddite
2012-08-09 06:26:15 OMG: 1970 Biondi Santi Reserva Brunello Di Montalcino $429.99 on WTSO....
you guys should buy this for me.... :lol:
2012-08-09 09:16:27 Wow that '70 Biondi Santi Reserva Brunello Di Montalcino is @pats-pwr's birth year wine! He should buy one for
both of you! Or maybe @Josie can ask her dinner friends for some for both of you :lol:
26861 BrunelloBob
2012-08-09 09:55:09 If it's pats-pwr’s birth year wine, shouldn't I be buying it for him?.....Sorry, pats, I'm WAY too poor for that.
(Ludds is right, we need Josie's Sugar-Daddy for this one!) :lol:
26862 Pats-Pwr
2012-08-09 12:32:11 @Luddite, I think BBob is correct. Someone should be buying that for ME, since it is my birth year wine. I'd be
more than happy to share with everyone. :-) And BB I understand, $430 is too rich for my blood as well. If I had
seen it earlier maybe I could have called Josie to make this happen for us. ;-)
26864 John O'
2012-08-09 18:14:46 looks like you can buy the whole last bottle warehouse for $1,000 + $8 for insurance.
I think I'll buy 12 of those.
2012-08-10 12:35:34 "Last Bottle loves Robert! Thanks for coming!"
2012-08-10 12:43:09 "Robert, seeing you again makes me want to stand up and do a little jig. Thanks for coming by!"
26869 BrunelloBob
26870 BrunelloBob
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2012-08-10 12:46:22 "Robert, we are toasting you right now. You're the best!"
"Wow, Robert, you are looking splendid today! Good to see you here!"
"Robert, its just a pleasure to see you...."
26872 Pats-Pwr
26873 BrunelloBob
26874 Pats-Pwr
26875 vinmoet
Last Bottle is Good for my self-image.
2012-08-10 12:46:30 @BBob, Last Bottle told me: "John, we are toasting you right now. You're the best!"
2012-08-10 12:53:51 @pats: I think they are toasting Everyone....
gotta get an invite to That party...
2012-08-10 13:59:35 Ah Yes, I see you posted that same Last bottle greeting mere seconds before I did. If you manage to score an
invite to that party let us know.
2012-08-11 12:47:29 restoring one's faith in a drink I hereto thought was awful...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9lfls_oz-and-james-france-ep-6-2-2_shortfilms
revisiting Oz and James episodes. Love this one. By the way, there are zillions of tiny producers like this that still
exist, in many appellations. Its all changing there but there are pockets of real, unchanged France.
26877 McMalbec
26880 louas
2012-08-11 17:02:25 Any thoughts on the Repasso on Woot today?
2012-08-12 01:20:24 just got back from a friend's house where we enjoyes a great meal and 4-5 bottles of pretty good juice. WOTN?
CH Lot 103! Napa Meritage. By far. CS/Merlot/Carmeniere. I think I brought it over a few years ago and we
never got around to drinking it.
What a treat tonite.
26881 TonyO
2012-08-12 08:56:21 Mrs TonyO and I spent last evening with Mr and Mrs KarlB...you know some White Burgundy was consumed
(along with a lobster feast with the rolling Green Mountains as a backdrop)..............perfect!
26882 wine magnet
2012-08-12 13:21:01 Vinmoet: I've got another opportunity to buy some wine from the 300+ case collection of older Bordeaux, all of
which have been kept in ideal temps since release. The one which appeals most to me is the '86 Clerc-Milon, at
$70/btl (case price in yet-to-be-opened case). Any thoughts on it and the following: Mags of: '01 Haut Bergey
($75), 96 Carmes Haut Brion $90, 93 L'Angelus 118, '92 Leoville las Cases $80/btl (some of which I have and have
enjoyed in a semi-vertical of 89, 91,92,93, all of which I think have become "over achievers".
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2012-08-13 03:37:32 Josie's sugar daddy checking in. She better not hire a younger landscaper!
Question for BDude. How much of the closing saramony was lipsincheded? Much of it seemed real time/live to
me. Of course/coarse I was drinking GRAPPA/tequila and Oregun Pinot Noir!!? Indeed,,, comma I have drifted
to the lite side of red wine. It must be the heat,,, but I can't pass up a bottle of it. For 30 years I have been a
Merlowww/cab/syrah/petitesirah/tannat/bonardo/lagrein/carmenere/carignan/zin/verdot/malbec/, heavier the
better grapes kind of guy but now my whole wine world is upside/down.
Was that a shooting star, or a Mobius? it could have been Persius
Hope you folks are doing good.
26889 vinmoet
2012-08-13 08:16:04 WM: At those price points they all seem tempting. For my palate I've been underwhelmed by the off vintages
like '92 & '93 but they can surprise. I like the '86 Clerc. Think about that price. Its a quiet, understated
wine. Had some within the past year and half? If this has been properly stored, then you should be quite
pleased. I would drink it up within the next few years though. Parker's notes:
Bordeaux Book, 4th Edition
Jan 2003 Robert Parker 90 Drink: 2003 - 2010 $99-$240
"Dark ruby/purple with some pink at the rim, this wine has a super bouquet of sweet, toasty new oak, plums,
black currants, licorice, and cedar. The wine is concentrated on the palate, rich and powerful, yet atypically soft
and fleshy for a 1986. While this wine should age well for another two decades, it has matured faster than many
of the 1986 Pauillacs. Anticipated maturity: Now-2010. Last tasted, 3/00."
26890 Brooks
26893 AdamEmpire
Bordeaux Book, 3rd Edition
Jan 1998 Robert Parker 90 Drink: 1991 - 2006 $99-$240
"The 1986 is among the greatest Clerc-Milon in my memory, and continues to represent one of the better values
of the 1986 vintage. Dark ruby/purple with a super bouquet of sweet, toasty new oak, plums, black currants,
licorice, and cedar, on the palate, the wine is very concentrated, rich and powerful, yet atypically soft and fleshy
for a 1986. While this wine should age well for another two decades, it can be drunk much earlier than many of
2012-08-13 09:32:43 castello ..... and the world is in a better place.... castello rated #1 by Grappa drinkers
I think I was poisoned by spice last night :(
2012-08-13 17:26:27 For those of you looking for best values in 2009 bordeaux, I have update the list here
http://www.empirewine.com/specials/2009-bordeaux-in-stock-88/ to show newly acquired wines as well as
consistent favorites. The list is automatically arranged by the best selling wine. Hope its of some use. Thanks!
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2012-08-13 17:56:39 i think many were live, but a few were synching. But to cut out Ray Davies and The Who from the US broadcast
is unforgiveable NBC. thanks for cutting out the Muse song though, that was one hot steaming pile of crappola.
I think Kate Hudson ruins bands when she gets together with the lead singers...
26895 BrunelloBob
2012-08-13 18:25:54 Really? They cut out Ray Davies and the Who?
If I had stayed up for nothing, I'd want to Kill someone for that...
2012-08-13 18:26:29 Any Suggestions on the Selyem Fall release?
2012-08-13 19:44:30 Vinmoet: Thanks for your continuously gracious advice/counsel on things Bordeaux. I went with the ones which
have the best CT reviews vs. QPR: 9- '92 Leoville las Cases,12- '86 Clerc-Milon, and 6-Magnums of Haut Bergey.
My LWS owner, who has access to this collection of one of his customers has assured me that should I open any
of these cases and find any condition issues or bad wine, I am fully protected. The four other Bordeaux from 92,
93, & 96 which I have bought from this cellar have been in perfect condition and good buys, IMHO. Now I
have to drive 100 miles RT to pick them up and soon thereafter try drinking them in the company of some other
Bordeaux fans. I'll probably also open the '90 las Cases I bought but have yet to try. It has some great CT reviews
26896 BrunelloBob
26897 wine magnet
26898 castello
2012-08-14 02:00:28 Good call Bdude! Kate Hudson ruins every good dream,,,, smiley face. I don't remember Muse but they were
prolly forgettable.
@Bbob. The Who was pretty good on tivo. They did pretty good for some of us old folks. It seemed relevant for
the Brits.
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2012-08-14 08:33:29 WM: Glad to be of service. Sounds like you have a bit of drinking to do. Have fun.
Adam: Great idea. Thanks for the list. Of course this mandates my picks from the list...
Chateau Senjac has, in my opinion, underrated terroir and, as a result is a constant over achiever and a QPR wine.
I had 3 bottles of the 1945 with one left. My last bottle I took to Bordeaux last harvest season and, talk about
avoiding travel shock, that wine sung as we drank it with my 92 year old french aunt and my 86 year old French
mother. So, I have a lot of affection for this Chateau. As far as the '09, this puppy sings. $25? Slam dunk buy.
Chateau Gloria. I hate the label, don't know why, I just do. Fortunately, you're not buying the wine for the label
and this is a wine that is another over achiever. This tastes at two or three times the price. Another good buy.
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2012-08-14 13:37:12
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2012-08-14 13:46:18
2012-08-14 15:34:15
2012-08-15 15:52:40
Chateau Clerc Milon. Remember how everyone kept talking about how Bordeaux prices were too high and they
were not going to buy futures because they were waiting for some sort of bubble collapse? If you didn't listen to
VM then, you're now sorry that you didn't buy Clerc in the low forties as recently as 6 months ago. Its now in the
mid seventies. This is a wine to hold and drink 2020 to 2040 and you will be rewarded. You could drink it earlier,
but that would be infanticide. I am doing a charitable vertical of Clercs and am not including the 2000 (which is a
brilliant wine) because its way too young. I think I would research the heck out this wine before taking the
plunge at this price, yet I concede that it is worth it in the mid seventies.
Had the sincere pleasure of meeting Ray Davies............a truly great rock and roll moment for TonyO as this guy is
in rare company and is still performing at a high level.
T.O.: You're not "Lola", are you? :lol:
@TonyO: Jealous!
Invino's got a 2001 Talenti BdM for $44.99
Great producer
A bit of age on it already, another 10 years won't hurt it.
Good price
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2012-08-16 12:54:34 I cut and paste this as it was a pretty fair summary of where the 2012 Bordeaux vintage is going:
"In Bordeaux the Merlot has been affected by the mildews and coulure. The winter was dry and March was
warm, April was cool being -1.4ºC lower than normal maximum temperatures. This meant that bud break was
around 2 weeks later than in 2011. The first half of May saw temperatures increase but the latter half saw them
drop around 5ºC along with high rainfall. This continued into early June with the average temperature around
20ºC which meant that flowering was about 10 days later than the average of the last 20 years according to
Bordeaux Raisins. The formation of grapes has been patchy with bunches developing at different speeds within
the same vineyard.
So far weather conditions have been slightly cooler than the last two vintages and the 2012 harvest is later than
in 2011 and 2010. The weather forecast for the next 2 weeks looks as if the sun is going to stay out over
Bordeaux with Saturday 18th August being expected to reach temperatures of 37ºC!
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It looks as if the 2012 vintage is going to be similar to the 2007, which is a good thing in my book. There will
plenty of good wines available to drink, maybe some superb ones, and if 2012 is not heralded as another
Bordelaise ‘vintage of the century’ then hopefully the wines will be priced sensibly so that all of us can enjoy
them."
2012-08-17 00:04:19 I generally drink higher end, but this 2005 flavium bierzo seams like a great QPR to me. Under $10 and better
than many 15-20 dollar wines. Tasty and easy.
2012-08-17 12:14:38 Talenti is A#1 ichiban BdM maker! Happi juice!
the Parusso 01 Barolo on LBW right now is the real deal. Sigh, its still 99 a bottle and FS3... so i will weep and
pass... the new wine austerity.
2012-08-17 13:04:06 "Happy Juice" :lol:
I thought that was a term known only in the Bob-household...
2012-08-17 16:04:28 @mr21cbs: Told you it was a Boy... ;)
2012-08-17 18:35:41 @BrunelloBob, you are right as almost always. Now the Vaynerchuk name will live forever. Good for them.
2012-08-17 19:49:31 "Almost"?
:lol:
2012-08-17 21:26:10 Let's not get carried away. Almost is pretty good in my book.
2012-08-19 08:59:40 mags of the QPR of the day are at JJB (preorder) for $50.
2012-08-19 10:49:27 tastes just like Cherry Cola....C-O-L-A cola........I just might be Lola.....the world may never know
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2012-08-20 18:50:26 I know political talk is generally frowned upon......but....it really was a thrill for me and my 8 year old daughter to
meet Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan in NH this morning....we got to shake both candidates hand and Paul stopped
for a great picture with my daughter...quite an experience that she will long remember...now back to all things
wine related.......
2012-08-20 22:13:00 Tony O: What a great memory for your daughter, you too! Thanks for posting.
2012-08-21 12:28:04 Kid's probably a yankees fan too...
x
Almost bought Cindy's wine today. Then I realized that it will probably show up again later, cheaper.
2012-08-21 12:33:35 I just realized i haven't been getting CW emails for a long time now... shows you how much they mattered and
how much i was paying attention i guess. Anyone else fall off their list?
TonyO, don't let the smooth taste fool you. ;-) Lets stick to rock and roll and baseball sidebars. Dodgers suck!
Lizzy Rules!
2012-08-21 13:27:40 Dude: I've fallen off various Wine Library email lists in the past and had a heck of a time getting back on. There's
been some systems changes since then. Try to go on the site and re-register for e-mails if you want. If you have
no luck, KMurph has always been helpful with stuff like that.
I live in Constant fear that I'm going to miss an Anderson Conn Valley style deal :lol:
2012-08-21 15:44:57 Hey, I saw the '04 Bogedas Ondarre for $13 shipped:
http://www.weshipwinefree.com/items/detail?itemid=273021
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26948 vinmoet
26949 John O'
26950 John O'
I've not bought from these guys before.
2012-08-23 16:26:01 Tap, tap, tap. Anyone out there? Witty remarks? Edgy criticism? Snotty comments? Anything?
2012-08-23 16:46:10 BBob...I know you love this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYjcNR7W-Ow
2012-08-23 17:58:13 @Vinmoet
In my continuing quest to corner the market in 2009 Bordeaux I bought some:
2009 Cantemerle Bordeaux
from JJB. Gaudy scores for $36.
When (not if) I get divorced, you will be subpoenaed.
2012-08-23 18:00:16 Keller Pinot Noir splits for $12 back up on Last Bottle.
89 pts Cellar Tracker, 94 Rhone Report, 92 me.
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2012-08-23 19:49:36 Wow Vinny, What did I do to deserve THAT?
x
(karma for finding John O's divorce Funny? :lol: )
2012-08-23 21:42:19 Bbob: You did not post. Fail to post again and the Carpenters shall taunt you a SECOND time!
2012-08-24 07:38:43 Vinny: Sometimes me thinks I post too much...
2012-08-24 20:51:31 For the inmates in/near PA, the PLCB is having a sale this week with some pretty attractive prices, especially on
Vintage Port. I just made my first purchase from them. Of course that means a trip to the nearest PLCB store an
hour away to pick it up, but they're also having an in-store booze sale with prices better than Ohio's state stores.
Surprising but I'm not complaining.
2012-08-26 15:44:27 swung by empire wines (Albany, NY) but Adam was not
home......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM7jwTyoKcU
26968 TonyO
J. Geils at the fair tonight.........Whammer Jammer (yes, please).........Angel is the Centerfold (no thank you,.......)
video to follow
2012-08-26 16:56:57 speaking of the Carpenters..............Glenn Hughes doing Superstar (one of the most amazing voices in rock
(former Deep Purple member)....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw8sWBXmhss
2012-08-26 16:59:36 some more Glenn in Black Country Communion.....a great collaboration band.....enjoy
26970 A Frayed Knot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVfMa61Zjmg
2012-08-26 20:02:54 What ever happened to Rindercella and the Gary Mudfather?
26967 TonyO
26973 mr21cbs
26975 BrunelloBob
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJv_YXIXBsE&feature=player_embedded#!
2012-08-28 08:44:39 Hi Everyone, I am back from vacation. The summer is almost over and it is time to pick up some QPRs, switch to
cooler weather wines, plan for the winter. Our QPR pipeline is dry, so start sending me your newly discovered
gems or old favorites in new vintages.
~
Do you know of any online stores that ship to Canada, Montreal to be specific? Winelibrary, Empirewine do not
list Canada, but I do see peeps from Canada in the WL forum, so somehow they get the wine. Cheers!
2012-08-28 10:53:08 I'm pretty sure Canada is a government monopoly and no one is shipping there.
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2012-08-28 12:04:54 BTW:
Montreal Restaurant where I had one of the BEST meals ever about a year ago. Highly recommended.
http://www.restolegraindesel.ca/
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26978 Phredd
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2012-08-28 12:22:33 Well that sucks, how do Canadiens get booze then? They can't possibly shop at stores while there is winter like
14 months a year.
2012-08-28 14:07:47 If I remember the Squirrel's rantings, the Canadian monopoly will ship anywhere you want, in country. You just
can't import it yourself.
2012-08-28 14:52:14 Phredd, you are correct, and Sir Squirrel confirmed it. Oh well, more wine for us.
2012-08-28 16:57:00 cbs: I had sent you a number of QPR's over the past, say, 3 weeks? Can't remember what they were but I'm
hoping you got them?
2012-08-29 22:15:47 Vin: the "other Gary" has the 2009 Chateau La Vieille Cure at $26.99. Are you familiar with this Bordeaux?
2012-08-30 08:57:52 Monsieur Vinmoet, aside from the freshly posted 2009 Château Corbin St. Émilion Grand Cru, I have one more
QPR recommendation from you in the QPR queue. Your support has been great and very much appreciated.
~
Just wanted to encourage the other inmates to get off their %@^U#$ and share some of the gems they had
discovered over the summer.
Cheers!
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2012-08-30 09:11:38 McMalbec: Am familiar with it but have not had the '09. This is one of those QPR favorites of WS and WA that
seems to get attention in great vintages. I've had the '05 and it was well rated, palatable but lacked depth. Here
are Parker's notes on the '09:
Wine Advocate #199
"This property has made so many fine efforts lately that it is difficult to say the 2009 is better than their 2005.
However, the 2009 is a charming, sexy, dense ruby/purple-colored offering displaying lots of ripe Merlot fruit
intermixed with hints of charcoal, black raspberries, black currants, lead pencil shavings and truffles. This fullbodied, pure, nicely textured and layered Fronsac is a sleeper of the vintage that considerably over-performs for
its modest price. Drink it over the next 15+ years. This is an obvious great value!"
Wine Advocate #188
"This is typically one of the finest offerings of Fronsac, but I am not convinced the 2009 will eclipse their
magnificent 2005, although it will certainly give the latter wine a run for its money. The opaque purple-hued
2009 offers a beautiful aromatic display of camphor, blueberries, acacia flowers, raspberries, and crushed rocks.
Full-bodied and pure with a nicely layered texture, the vintage’s unctuosity and thickness as well as freshness and
definition, this sleeper of the vintage is another beauty from La Vieille Cure. It should drink well for 15+ years.
(Tasted once.)"
Neil Martin is not a fan, can't explain the discrepancy. Parker tastes numerous times so I would tend to go with
his notes:
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26989 BrunelloBob
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Wine Journal
2012-08-30 12:26:47 Many thanks, Vin. Your thoughtful responses are educational and greatly appreciated.
2012-08-30 16:01:53 One of many reasons to go to Paris...French Macaroons. http://travel.usatoday.com/deals/inside/story/201208-30/The-most-scrumptious-pastry-shops-in-Paris/57424638/1
2012-08-30 20:19:36 I ate too many macaroons the night before we flew back from Paris.
Won't do that again... :oops:
2012-08-30 22:37:28 Must have been something else BBob, there is no such thing as too many macaroons
2012-08-31 21:44:06 Is T.O. making himself scarce because I called him "Lola" :lol:
or because he's afraid I'll bring up my new, undying allegience to the Orioles?
2012-09-03 09:35:23 Bordeaux 2012 - harvest report: http://www.decanter.com/news/wine-news/530400/bordeaux-braces-itself-forwinemaker-s-vintage
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2012-09-03 09:53:57 Thanks CBS. I've kept up some early discussion about the vintage on Cindy, but this is the first piece from an
official review site that discusses it and I will put it up over there. Bordeaux had a very early bloom due to the
soft winter but it got tagged off by a frost. As a result, they lost part of the crop and the remaining grapes are
maturing at different times. Then they had a rainy cold summer with a hot August. Cabernet Sauvignon needs
time in the field and it could very well do nicely but the Merlot ripens earlier and is not going to do well.
Going back to my mantra, 2009 is opulent, can drink early but age, and its a big crop. 2010 will be more like 2005
and 2000 and is magical but needs to age and is a smaller crop. 2011 is sporadic, a few places had very good
conditions, most had one trauma or another ranging from rain, to winds, to hail, to drought. And, 2012 is going
to be similar to 2007 = yuck. Buy up 2009 guys.
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27003 BrunelloBob
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27012 louas
2012-09-03 11:27:33 I thought this was the (ex-pat) Cindy board. The other one is the WLTV Forums.
2012-09-03 14:18:16 Wow Cindy,
Wow
2012-09-03 17:52:15 What's so WOW about it?
~
Ex-pat?
2012-09-03 19:59:36 @cbs: Big reputation, big price, big discount. Impressive Cindy could bring a deal like that to the table. Haven't
had it, but know it by reputation. Wouldn't likely Ever have it, unless at a discount. This is a "vintage be damned"
deal, BTW,.
2012-09-03 20:17:02 Not as good as the Cindy deal for the 2005 vintage offered back in 2009; original WL price $235, Cindy price $100
(and the wine was outstanding; easily worth the C-note)
2012-09-03 21:01:41 True, and I'd generally take a 2005 Tuscan over a 2003.
No idea how I missed the deal on the '05.
2012-09-03 21:06:26 Looking at dates, I just realized how I missed the prior offer...
2012-09-03 21:19:24 great every day drinker on cindy (based in 2007 vintage and WS rating)
2012-09-03 21:30:09 @BB: I was in your "neck of the woods" over the weekend (Rockport, MA) ...great area but all the whining and
crying about the Sawks did me in !
2012-09-03 21:49:28 Just had a labor day steak and grilled corn dinner with a a really nice bottle of wine that sadly was my last one
and is gone forever.
Nicholas Cole Cellars 2006 Camille. Columbia Valley. 59% merlot. 38% Cab Franc. 3% CS. Mouth coating
deliciousness.
Hope all you inmates had a a great weekend. I think most of the east coast goes back to school tomorrow. Here
in AZ the kids have been in school since approx. 8/8.
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2012-09-03 22:02:35 louas, you are correct, the kids are packing their backpacks for tomorrow. The youngster's kindergarten starts on
Thursday. Back to the crazy schedule in my household.
Stay well my friends!
2012-09-04 05:59:17 T.O>: There are no more Sawks--They're all Dodgers now.
GO ORIOLES!
2012-09-04 09:43:46 Inmate No brainer alert
2009 Ruffino Modus $21 presale at Wine Library. Having very much enjoyed a 2007 last night (Suckling 96), this
vintage with a Suckling 95 doesn;t require much thought.
2012-09-04 12:54:26 Thanks for the "heads up", John. Just recieved an email from WL on the 2008 Castell'in Villa Chianti Classico @
19.98. Any thoughts on this one?
2012-09-04 12:55:39 John O', the 2008 was $16 at Empire. I am still awaiting my bottles due to heat, and not sure how the 2009 will
show compare to the previous vintages, so I can't comment whether it is a good deal or not...
2012-09-04 13:20:12 Mr21CBS
Haven't tried the '08 either, yet. If you recall, Suckling laid a 96 on the '07. Most believe it is very good, but not
that good. I am in that camp. As he laid a 95 on the '09, I'm all in.
2012-09-05 08:29:17 Vin: Back to 2009. JJB is touting theHaut Bergey
Pessac-Leognan, Bordeaux at $34.50. Are you familiar with this wine/producer.
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2012-09-05 09:08:01 McMalbec
This is another Chateau showing how marvelous this vintage is. Neil Martin tasted this in January of this year and
noted that it was closed down in the nose. He gave it very high marks stating that it trailed off a bit in the finish.
NM91+. While I tend to have a photographic memory for tastes, I just don't remember this one though I have
tasted it. This is not a rock star producer but has a very solid owner and respectable terroir. Its kind of a QPR
Chateau.
The Robert seems to like it:
Wine Advocate #199
"A blend of just over 50% Cabernet Sauvignon and the balance Merlot (last year I mistakenly wrote that the
balance was Cabernet Franc), the opaque ruby/purple-colored 2009 reveals notes of scorched earth/burning
embers/charcoal, black currants, ripe cherries and lead pencil shavings. Full-bodied and pure with sweet tannin,
this is an under-the-radar, high quality claret to drink over the next 20-25 years.
As powerful and rich as the 2000 and 2010, Haut-Bergey’s 2009 is another of the over-achieving, value-priced
Bordeaux that are increasingly difficult to find. The estate, which is owned by Helene Garcin (who also owns Clos
l’Eglise and Barde-Haut, and makes the cult wine, Branon, from a vineyard adjacent to Haut-Bergey), is situated
near Malartic Lagraviere and Domaine de Chevalier."
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Wine Advocate #188
"One of the best over-achieving, value-priced wines in Pessac-Leognan, Haut-Bergey’s vineyard enjoys a superb
location near Malartic-Lagraviere and Domaine de Chevalier. Composed of 60% Cabernet Sauvignon and the rest
2012-09-06 15:50:10 This is a link to some footage of the 2011 harvest at Château Grand Mayne, a Saint Emilion Grand Cru located
adjacent to the Village: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtH3CO_2KSA
Parker scored the 2011 90-92. The 2009 is 93 points and you can buy it for under $50. Futures 2011 is in that 30
to 40 range, but I am still pushing the '09. The Château produces a modern styled, flamboyant wine that still
manages to taste like Bordeaux. Kind of a QPR. But, harvest is a lot of fun and there is NOBODY THERE, no
tourists, no reviewers. Its a great time to go, and airfare is cheapest after 10/15.
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2012-09-06 21:59:27 pretty dead. Where's our friend Buffalo Lou gone to?
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2012-09-06 22:52:31 Hey, John, speak for yourself! I am still here and listening. Got Jade 2003 Syrah and Chateau Suduiraut Sauternes
2007 from Last Bottle. Anyone else bought anything interesting lately?
2012-09-06 23:10:14 thought long and hard about the jade syrah. had to pass on the 6 bottle minimum.
did pick up the desantis chard on last bottle yesterday.
2012-09-07 10:53:31 John O', I split the Jade purchase with a friend. My couple of bottles will be a part of the 2002-2004 vertical. I am
not a big fan of Chardonnay, but went on the Sauternes. Good reviews on CT, and very reasonably priced.
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2012-09-07 12:17:39 BrunelloBob, I feel like you are trying to tell us something...
2012-09-07 14:06:14 Unrelated to any immediate conversation cbs, it's aimed at my Pal T.O. :lol:
2012-09-07 14:11:33 D.T. and Brooks' Killin' me on Ciderella.
If WL employees are gonna pump up a sub-90 point CT score, I'm glad someone called them out on it. Give Aaron
credit though, at least he did it in his own name...
x
(In for one, what the hell, it's Brunello :) )
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2012-09-07 16:06:20 mr21cbs: A couple of weekends ago I bought the following from an impeccably kept cellar full of older Bordeaux
and have begun to try some, with appreciation to Vinmoet for his valuable input:
12- '92 Leoville las Cases
12- '93 Leoville las Cases
12- '86 Clerc-Milon
6-'01Magnums Haut Bergey
1- '96 Carmes Haut Brion
1- '93 L'Angelus
1- '93 mag of Ducru Beaucaillou
The Leovilles, Haut Bergey, and the Clerc-Milon have all been enjoyable. Now I have to restrain myself for awhile
to let my palate recover from such overexposure over a few days. Should some TH inmates find their way to the
West coast of FL, I might be persuaded to open some more of the ones for which I have duplicates over some
good food.
2012-09-08 15:01:16 @JohnO': Good question re: BLou. I have reached out via e-mail, but have received no response.
2012-09-08 18:39:14 WTF,
Reached for a 2005 Beringer Bancroft Merlot, grabbed and opened a 2007 Reserve Cab instead. Great wine, 10
years too soon. I can't afford to waste bottles like this, Shoot me as a Fool.
2012-09-08 20:08:52 just passing through..............America's greatest contribution to rock and roll doing a great cover of an Animal's
song......enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x6chChxzV0
2012-09-08 20:48:08 The kommander, along with many others also misses boatswain mate blou. Perhaps he feels he was dissed due
to the response months and months ago regarding the treatment he received following his honest thoughts on
the (c) ommander in chief. The kommander for one totally understands boatswain mate blou and miss his wine
and life reports. Kaos out....... go romney
2012-09-08 20:54:41 @KK......nice sentiment
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2012-09-09 11:26:56 @BBob I call 'em like I see 'em. Can't say the same for the replacement NFL refs.
@wine magnet I don't have any current plans for FL travel, but I've never had a birth year wine and the '86 would
fit that bill. Between you & Bern's I may have to fix that.
This weekend is the first true fall weather we've had in Cleveland, and although I'll miss summer, fall is probably
my favorite season due to the bounty of fresh local produce and the fact that I can pour a white, rose, red,
bourbon or beer with the weather/football munchies and be plenty happy.
I don't think I've posted anything about it here previously, but anyone who wants a nice QPR rec from an under
the radar winery in the far, far north of California, check out http://halconvineyards.com/ I really liked their 09
Alturas Syrah and went all in on the '10 pre-sale (link on the front page) as everything I've read online from those
who have tried both the '09 & '10 say the 10 is even better. I would recommend picking up at least the 3pack sampler to give them a try for $90 w/ fs.
27073 SCKen
FWIW both myself and RDHudak have also tried to contact Lou via both Facebook and email (& Rick also by
phone) and did not hear a "chirp"
2012-09-11 15:02:01 Though I haven't posted in a long time, I have been checking in every now and then to see how all the Crazies are
doing. I'm disappointed and concerned to see BLou has gone missing. I truly hope everything is okay with him.
I come today seeking the wisdom of this group. My wife and I are heading to San Fran for Thanksgiving. Our 7
year old daughter will be going with us. We are hoping to spend that Saturday in Napa, but I understand some
wineries are not child friendly. With that in mind, any suggestions on wineries we should visit? What I am really
looking for are wineries that are child friendly, maybe not well-known, and produce great Cabernets.
27074 luddite
2012-09-11 17:17:53 @SCKEN: Welcome back!
As for @BLou, my theory is that he must be doing OK since he is still posting TNs to cellartracker on a regular
basis. :D
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2012-09-11 18:41:13 SC KEN
Here is a website for Napa wineries. You can find listings of family friendly places, dog friendly, etc.
http://www.napavintners.com/wineries/
27079 BuffaloLou
Have fun!
2012-09-12 16:12:57 HELLOOOOOO INMATES! Yes, I am alive and well. Thank you all for your concern. luddite... You are correct sir; I
may have been taking a leave of absence, but I continued posting TNs on CT.
I have been recharging my batteries; enjoying some R&R; Exploring the new (to me) world of fine beer; still
working on reducing the cellar; camping; and most importantly, spending a lot of time with the family over the
Summer.
Note to Brooks: Been trying some of my Haven's stash. Been drinkin' GREAT of late! The '06 "H" Cab Sauv is
quite nice, esp given the purchase price. The '06 Merlot (reg bottling) is at a beautiful spot now. When I have a
quite evening, I think I'll pop a "B" and give a try.
Re: beer. One word: Triples! (or 'tripel' if you prefer)
Macaroons... I think they are underrated. Almost as good as cannoli. Almost heaven.
27080 john o'
27081 McMalbec
27082 David T
More soon!
2012-09-12 16:27:41 Lou
good to have you back.
2012-09-12 17:14:22 Welcome back Lou!
2012-09-12 18:54:33 @BLou Good to see you back! Speaking of Tripels, remind me if I gave you any of the Rockmill? I know I did to
Rick. If not I will the next time I'm up your way. http://rockmillbrewery.com/
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2012-09-12 21:35:08 Welcome back BLou. I knew you couldn't be too derailed because of your CT posts in recent weeks, one of which
on 8/31 prompted me to take a Havens Merlot to our regular blind tasting the next day. It was enjoyed by all in
attendance.
For dinner Sat with some friends from our Sat tasting, among other wines we opened a CH Lot 179, an '05
Havens Bourriquot, an '86 Clerc-Milon, and a '93 Leoville las Cases. While the old Bordeaux were great, the
wines from Michael Havens really got some rave reviews, and they were opened after we finished the Bordeaux.
Of course the revealed price of the Havens creations really made a favorable impression on all.
27084 TonyO
2012-09-12 21:41:41 Hey Hey !! Well, last night was a GREAT night...wine dinner with Dave Adelsheim (Oregon winemaker)......great
food , great wine, and great company (Mrs. TonyO ) and a blessing to be able to enjoy such an evening on the
11th year since the haunting events of 9/11/2001...............
So to one and all....Summer is over so lets kick this thing in the a** with stories of bean bag chairs, old rusty
buses, garden parties, and general acts of debauchery...........politics, sports, and religion are better left at the
reception desk at Trembling Hills !! Let's crank this %&&*(*( thing up to 11 !!!!
P.S. Adelsheim makes a killer Rose !
27085 TonyO
2012-09-12 21:45:19 and what would a TH Party be without some tunes...............
27086 RDHudak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzjoqpTqSR4
2012-09-12 22:08:49 Glad to see you back Lou, but it would have been polite to at least respond to messages. Hope all is well.
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2012-09-12 22:25:31 Thanks all.
Just back from another Scout meeting. Yes, September is here which means Scout meetings resume. Monthly
camping, too! In fact, two campouts in September; the last two weekends of the month. Good news: I'll be
spending extra quality time with Scout Alex. Bad news: Less time with Mrs. BLou.
@DT - Have not had the Rockmill. Domestic Triple?
@Wine Mag - Good to hear about your experience with the Havens Merlot!
(https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=777901) Thanks for the info on the CH Lot 179 and ’05 Havens
Bourriquot. I'll have to try one of each soon. Tonight, another '06 Havens Merlot. Beautifully balanced. Nice
fruit and those sweet tannins! In fact, I had a half bottle left over from last night. Mrs. BLou and I split it with
dinner. It held over very nicely! (And I didn't do anything special, just stuck the cork partially in.)
Hey TO! Long time, no talk! ;) Any TNs on the Adelsheim Rose'?
So, what's everyone drinking tonight?
27088 BuffaloLou
2012-09-12 22:34:01 @Rick - Sorry. Will be in touch.
2012-09-12 22:36:58 The kommander is also please to see lt.lou back on station
The kommander will also point out to ensign hudak that
perhaps when the details emerge regarding lt.lou's klandestine special ops mission he will understand the
reasons for radio silence.
Your kommander writes this message while 3/4s of the way through a 2007 stags leap pettite syrah. Wonderful
balance of intense dark fruit followed with some serious tanins. He is kurious as to how the remaining 1/4 will
drink tomorrow.
On a serious note...
May God Bless The United States Of America
after the past 24 hours, she needs all our prayers.
kaos out
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2012-09-12 22:40:06 The kommander is also please to see lt.lou back on station
The kommander will also point out to ensign hudak that
perhaps when the details emerge
regarding lt.lou's klandestine special ops mission he will understand the reasons for radio silence. It should be
known that the lieutenant successfully penatrated the Havens wharehouse
Your kommander writes this message while 3/4s of the way through a 2007 stags leap pettite syrah. Wonderful
balance of intense dark fruit followed with some serious tanins. He is kurious as to how the remaining 1/4 will
drink tomorrow.
On a serious note...
May God Bless The United States Of America
after the past 24 hours, she needs all our prayers.
kaos out
2012-09-12 22:56:50 @kk - re: 2007 stags leap pettite syrah - Nice! I have not had the pleasure of tasting this nectar. This reliable
producer is on my 'go to' list for petite sirah/syrah. I, too, am curious to know how it is tomorrow.
Indeed, kaos, God Bless the USA!
27092 vinmoet
2012-09-12 22:59:17 Blou: WELCOME HOME!
27093 vinmoet
27094 BuffaloLou
Kaos, if its so good, why leave any behind?
2012-09-12 23:01:25 Kaos, Patton never left anyone behind. Get back on duty and finish that wine.
2012-09-12 23:17:10 @vinny - TY!
27095 BuffaloLou
27096 NY Pete
27097 mr21cbs
@kk - I must agree with pvt Vinny; why leave any behind? (That is, of course, unless you're kommanding the ship
tomorrow!)
2012-09-13 00:52:00 Now on WTSO: Castlebank Zinfandel 2010 Old Vines 'Giulia's' Vineyard. I have the '07 and '08 of this. Very nice.
Def worth $13.
2012-09-13 01:43:13 wow. with kaos and the louche back, there goes the tranquility of the neighborhood. oh well.
2012-09-13 08:45:46 Welcome to everyone who decided to come out of the summer hibernation. I am delighted to see your fancy
scribbling. Was contemplating to shut this poppy down, as it was getting lonely around here.
Cheers!
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2012-09-13 09:31:39 @BLou: Welcome back! Were you away so long that you forgot @TonyO's rule about using the "S" word (it's
verboten in the Hills)?
2012-09-13 11:59:21 Wine A: 9 of 14 TN's on consecutive dates, "Consistent with prior tastings."
Wine B: 6 of 12 TN's on consecutive dates. "Consistant with prior tastings."
Wine C: 6 of 13 TN's on consecutive dates. "Consistant with prior tastings."
Wine D: 4 of 9 TN's on consecutive dates. "Consistant with prior tastings."
Wine E: 7 of 12 TN's within ~2 months. "Consistant with prior tastings."
You get the point. Gotta get those CT TN #'s up. Old habits are hard to break.
2012-09-13 15:54:29 Today's Ship4Free looks like it should have sailed a couple of years ago! Someone tell me if I'm wrong...
27102 BuffaloLou
2012-09-13 18:42:10 Merryvale 'Profile' 2009 on WTSO now. $130.
27099 Julius
27103 BuffaloLou
27104 David T
@ludds - Indeed, I was out of practice and the rule slipped my mind. I will make amends with his honor, Judge
TO. Looks like I'll have to work on that off-line he and I briefly discussed...
2012-09-13 18:44:54 Forgot to mention that Mrs. BLou and I enjoyed another '06 Havens Merlot with dinner. It's really in it's prime
now. Been enjoying these all this week with, ahem, consistant results.
2012-09-13 19:34:50 It's interesting to see the changes even 1-2 years can make on one's palate. A year or two ago I was loving S
Rhone, and buying heavily in the over-rated 07 vintage. Now... it's kind of hit or miss. Some I certainly still enjoy,
others I'm finding hot and lacking structure (across vintages). I decided I'm going to spend the next few weeks
drinking down (or drain pouring if not good) some of my S Rhone stash. It makes me question how much of the
reportedly great 09/10 vintages to buy. This week I had the 07 Domaine Fond Croze Côtes du Rhône Cuvée
Romanaise from TSO, which could be any Aussie fruit bomb. Tonight I popped the 07 Domaine Moulin-Tacussel
CdP from Cindy which is nice but not wow. Has anyone else experienced anything similar recently?
I'm still trying to figure out exactly where my palate's at right now, other than I'm finding that I prefer my reds on
the younger side and in whites I don't mind oak as much as I thought, it's malolactic fermentation that I dislike
and anything with high acidicy I love.
27105 David T
27107 RDHudak
27108 TonyO
2012-09-13 19:49:51 Completely unrelated but I had called our trash company for a bulk pickup tomorrow for items left from the
previous owners of our house. Within an hour of us setting them out, two different pickup trucks pulled up
& people jumped out and grabbed both the old rusty falling apart wheelbarrow and broken pool
filter/pump I had set out. I really guess one man's trash is another's treasure. I'm assuming the metal, even if
rusted is worth enough to actively seek out these days?
2012-09-13 20:22:11 No need.
2012-09-13 21:08:04 anyone know where I can purchase a 2001 Opus One ? Trying to facilitate a local buyer..thanks in advance !
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2012-09-13 21:34:35 IrishTony: You know about winesearcher.com, right? ;)
2012-09-13 22:58:37 Tonight we tried an '09 Ocaso Malbec (Mendoza, Argentina). Had the reserve of this before. For the couple of
extra dollars, go with the reserve. Nothing wrong with this bottling, but the reward for the couple extra $ is
worth it. This was only $13, and the reserve is about $15-$16 locally.
2012-09-14 10:07:36 Last call wines (lastcallwines.com) has 2009 Phelps Insignia for $159, FS/1.
Professional reviews:
Wine Advocate 96 Points
"The 2009 Cabernet Sauvignon Insignia is a big, generous wine that covers the palate with waves of dark red
fruit. Today it is beautifully expressive and opulent yet also well balanced. An explosive finish rounds things out in
style. This looks to be a relatively approachable Insignia. Floral, spicy notes round out the finish. In 2009 the
blend is 83% Cabernet Sauvignon, 13% Petit Verdot and 4% Merlot. Anticipated maturity: 2014-2029.
Stephen Tanzer's International Wine Cellar 94 Points
"Good deep ruby. Rich but youthfully stunted aromas of plum, currant, chocolate, licorice and mint. Then plush,
fine-grained and sweet on the palate, with excellent fat and a loamy complexity to the flavors of blackcurrant,
dark chocolate and graphite. This has evolved nicely since I tasted it a year ago from barrel. In a distinctly
generous style but structured for a long life in bottle. Finishes with gripping, tongue-saturating tannins and
terrific chocolatey length."
27118 David T
27119 NY Pete
Wine Spectator 92 Points
"A solid core of fruit, with currants, minerals, fresh mint, and stones. Full bodied and chewy. The mid palate
should fill in later."
2012-09-14 11:11:30 @Lou That'll save ya a whole penny per bottle off the WineLibrary price ;) (though that's on pre-sale not in stock,
but also w/ FS)
BTW yes the Rockmill is a domestic Tripel, brewed right here in OH
2012-09-14 13:34:52 Rick Hudak is the man.
that is all.
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2012-09-14 14:24:11 Checking in. Been in Ottawa for biz... beautiful weather this time of year. Great pub and restaurant scene there
too.
Off to Boston, ARlington and probably Asia again soon... I love it when folks hand me the wine list to order for
the table...
BLOU: my fave Tripel... Tripel Karmeleit i get it at Bevmo or Whole Foods. Check it out. Strong stuff be warned.
27121 wine magnet
27122 BaroloDude
SCKen... in the last few years i have had to find such kid friendly wineries too, for my 2 then 3 now 4 year old, and
my new baby girl. I find most websites clearly state "no kids allowed" if they don't want kids, and if they don't
state it, its usually ok. A few i have found to be very kid friendly:
- Corison (even have a picnic bench outside to eat lunch..this is rarely allowed in Napa due to laws to limit the
Sattui phenomenon)...
- Silenus (a collective of winemakers sharing a common facility and tasting room...just off Hwy29 near Yountville,
just south of Hoffman Lane...they have picnic tables too and bocce ball there to play for free...a dozen wineries,
some very good wine and if you buy a bottle you go out to the picnic tables and eat your lunch with your new
bottle...great!)...
- Elyse (on Hoffman Lane, near Silenus... very informal tasting room, dogs hanging out, GREAT wine and many to
taste)...
- Failla (off Silv Trail near Calistoga, more sonoma coast PN and Chard and Syrah, made in Napa facility... great
stuff... need rezzie... tasting in a nice casual lodge type building, very friendly... nice to break up the Napa cab
lineup of tastings by going here)
There's a starter of places. If you get over to RRV, go to Lynmar...very friendly for kids too.
2012-09-14 15:49:55 DavidT: I don't know what Southern Rhones you are drinking and not enjoying, but on successive nights
(Wed/Thurs) this week I opened a 2007 Château Pesquié Côtes du Ventoux Terrasses for guests and everyone
loved it. It was quite a buy at $15 delivered by WL! Last night over dinner, I also opened an '07 Domaine du
Pégaü Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Réservée, which was a touch better IMHO, but only marginally. I will finish
the CdP tonight after it has been resting under gas since last night. I may take another Pesquie' to our Sat blind
tasting tomorrow, the theme of which is "anything French", which means I will probably contribute 4 or more
bottles.
2012-09-14 16:06:30 @ DavidT... Southern Rhone and stolen pharmaceuticals do not mix! THey are destroying your taste buds!
Now if you are going to continue with the illicit behavior, i would pair the painkillers with a nice aged Barolo
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2012-09-14 16:18:04 I know Syrah is down and out on the market but a good one can be really good.
2006 McCrea Syrah Ciel du Cheval Vineyard
2005 Sarah's Vineyard Syrah Besson Vineyard
2007 DeLille Cellars Syrah Doyenne
2012-09-14 16:59:28 Syrah.....had an 2009 Adelsheim Calkins Lane Vineyard the other nighty paired with grilled beef tenderloin and
roasted tomato ragout........excellent....they make a really nice Rose of Pinot Noir as well (killer with some corn
meal crusted oysters........).........both wines are finally available here in VT........................
2012-09-14 18:15:09 just sayin,,,
anyone else notice the return of BuFfLou has coincided with revitalization of the Board?
2012-09-14 18:51:43 @John O: Tis true! Now if only, to quote TonyO, it wasn't a total "sausage fest." :(
2012-09-14 19:31:20 @BDude - Thank you for the recommendation on the Tripel Karmeleit. I believe have one in the cellar, but
haven't popped it... yet. With your rec, I'll get to it sooner rather than later. (I buy at least one of every
Tripel/Triple I find, just to try. I picked this up recently, but know nothing abou tit.)
@John O: I loves me some Syrah!
@John O, pt 2: :)
@Ludds, and all: Did Josie pop in while I was on hiatus? We haven't heard from her in ages! Her posts are
missed.
Finishing the last glass of the 2009 Ocaso Malbec from last night. The nose died, but the palate... The fruit
forward mellowed and allowed the more subtle flavors to come forward. Earth & leather. (Maybe that
would make a good Stevie Nicks song? Oh... ) The mixed black fruits have become mostly blackberry. Not better;
not worse; just different. Breathing for tonight: '94 Eisele Vineyards Cab Sauv. (I'm not expecting the
experience I had recently when I popped a '97 of the same. That was amazing! BL95)
As I type this, Guy Ferri is talking about Tur-Duc-in. One of the best foods I've ever tried! My mother, before she
passed, used to bring them up from Louisiana for me. Un-freaking-believable! I've made my own, but couldn't
duplicate as I do not have access locally to the high quality andoullie for the stuffing.
Well, I have to get a little work done. I'll check back later. Cheers!
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2012-09-14 19:32:37 P.S.: @John O - it's not me. It's September. Summer is over. Everyone's schedule is calming down and they're
returning "home"! But thank you for the compliment.
2012-09-14 20:00:54 @Luddite.... have fun watching your bucks beat up on my bears this weekend. We never play well when we
travel east and play at effectively 9am in the morning... plus, we really stink this year.
2012-09-14 20:51:23 I was curious about the "german cellar" at Garagiste and came here to see if anyone had opined. I see from the
notes that interest has dropped these last months. Now that I work in the office, I don't find myself chatting that
often. I would be quite sad if I checked in and the rambling had stopped. I was tempted buy the garagiste offer,
but I've reminded myself that I don't drink much German wine, and since I won't be selling, retail value is
irrelevant, so I passed. I do wonder what people will get.
2012-09-14 22:41:13 @jovino - I usually delete (I should un-subscribe) Garagiste's offers as I do not like their shipping prices. I find
them cost prohibitive. That said, a good German Riesling rocks! They're my favorite whites, especially when offdry. Balanced sweet and acid is an amazing combination, IMO. I don't know what was offered but it might be
worth consideration. That said, remember the shipping...
2012-09-15 01:46:59 @ Jovino & BuffLou: I am also intrigued by the garagiste offer, mostly for the chance at a unique experience
amongst friends since my German wine experience is almost nil. While their shipping to FL is expensive
($39/case for 2 cases I have waiting for cool weather) compared to say, lastbottle, which offers free shipping
with minimum purchases or $31.20/case additional for cold shipping during hot months, I have still felt my
garagiste selections were worth the $3+/btl by the case shipping cost. For a 3 bottle pack, I suspect the shipping
might be around $6/btl.
I hope some German wine fans will provide some kind of guidance here.
2012-09-15 08:17:46 Seeing as how they're mystery German wines @ $90 per bottle and ranging anywhere from 1864 to 1988 (and
none of them guaranteed due to age) I would recommend only lottery players take a chance on hitting that
$10,000 bottle hinted at :D
2012-09-15 14:43:56 Re: garagiste - $39/case for 2 cases - That's not too bad. They were higher when I last purchased from them.
@ludds - "mystery German wine" @$90 - hmmm... Don't think I'd go in either, but it could be an opportunity to
pick up something with some age on it for a reasonable price.
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27141 louas
2012-09-15 15:45:01 @BD: Either you're being overly harsh on your Bears or it's going to be a long season for Brutus and crew :( Only
for want of a field goal kicker did the Bears lose this game.
2012-09-15 19:13:18 Just got back from a week in NY. Great 2 c u back BLou!
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2012-09-15 20:43:20 @B-Lou - I have no business buying anything from garagiste at this point. I have made at least 10 purchases to
date and have received none. This in itself does not reflect badly on them, as I am signed for shipping on
demand and I haven't demanded any shippine (I'm quite grateful for the free storage). They only recommend
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